Editing Talk:Great Cylon Turkey Shoot/Archive 1

I totally vote for this as permanent title. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:10, 17 September 2005 (EDT)

:Like I said, I was watching and I just said, "Wow, just like the Great MARIANAS Turkey Shoot against Japan in WWII!".  --- [[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]], 17 Sept, 2005

== Time ==

Wasn't it a few days (maybe even a week) after Cally was released? [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 16:37, 17 September 2005 (EDT)

:Probably. I need to take another look at the timeline after I'm done with the Colonies series. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:34, 17 September 2005 (EDT)

==Logic Bomb==
Did Sharon actually deploy the same logic bomb to the cylon fleet? It seems implausible that they'd design a virus that their own devices were susceptible to. More likely, she was aware of some backdoors in their programming which she was able to exploit, in the same way that the Colonial fleet was decimated via a backdoor on the [[CNP]], not an actual "virus". --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:47, 22 September 2005 (EDT)
:While Adama may not have been correct, that is what ''he'' said to the crew after Valerii completed the task. A backdoor gives access, but a virus or worm completes the programming. No, I don't believe she used the same logic bomb...but took pieces of it and sent it on a transmission frequency that no properly-programmed Cylon would expect to receive odd information on, especially from another Cylon with the proper credentials such as Valerii. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 00:48, 23 September 2005 (EDT)

==Won't Somebody Please Think of the Hardware?!== 
While watching the "turkey shootout", did anyone else wonder why the pilots were ordered to destroy every single Cylon ship rather than bring some aboard Galactica for future use? I understand the pilots needed a morale boost, so letting them shred the Cylons was logical in cheering them all up, and Galactica had already had access to three Cylon ships, but surely it would've been worth capturing a few more for research or covert missions? --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 10:18, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

:How could they "use" one of them?  I mean Starbuck got one in Act of Contrition on a lucky shot that took out its brain, but they A) Didn't know how long the virus would work before the Raiders turn on again B) Didn't know if ''reinforcements'' would show up.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 10:29, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

::I hadn't really thought that much about the ways they could use them, I just thought it was odd that they didn't even consider it. Later in the series one of the Heavy Raiders comes in useful, aiding the jumps to Caprica, so in hindsight, more captured raiders could have had their uses. --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 11:33, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

:::This has been discussed before in the episode article. The likely reasons why the Fleet didn't pick up include what Merv said, and that while the Raider ship may be disabled, the autonomous living element of it could still "kick." I prefer to think that it wasn't worth a salvage attempt since the battlestar wasn't up to fighting as its hard drives were restored and her fighters could only do so much if reinforcements did appear. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:22, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
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-I totally vote for this as permanent title. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:10, 17 September 2005 (EDT)
+I totally vote for this as permanent title. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:10, 17 September 2005 (EDT)
 :Like I said, I was watching and I just said, "Wow, just like the Great MARIANAS Turkey Shoot against Japan in WWII!".  --- [[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]], 17 Sept, 2005
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 Wasn't it a few days (maybe even a week) after Cally was released? [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 16:37, 17 September 2005 (EDT)
-:Probably. I need to take another look at the timeline after I'm done with the Colonies series. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:34, 17 September 2005 (EDT)
+:Probably. I need to take another look at the timeline after I'm done with the Colonies series. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:34, 17 September 2005 (EDT)
 ==Logic Bomb==
-Did Sharon actually deploy the same logic bomb to the cylon fleet? It seems implausible that they'd design a virus that their own devices were susceptible to. More likely, she was aware of some backdoors in their programming which she was able to exploit, in the same way that the Colonial fleet was decimated via a backdoor on the [[CNP]], not an actual "virus". --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:47, 22 September 2005 (EDT)
+Did Sharon actually deploy the same logic bomb to the cylon fleet? It seems implausible that they'd design a virus that their own devices were susceptible to. More likely, she was aware of some backdoors in their programming which she was able to exploit, in the same way that the Colonial fleet was decimated via a backdoor on the [[CNP]], not an actual "virus". --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:47, 22 September 2005 (EDT)
 :While Adama may not have been correct, that is what ''he'' said to the crew after Valerii completed the task. A backdoor gives access, but a virus or worm completes the programming. No, I don't believe she used the same logic bomb...but took pieces of it and sent it on a transmission frequency that no properly-programmed Cylon would expect to receive odd information on, especially from another Cylon with the proper credentials such as Valerii. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 00:48, 23 September 2005 (EDT)
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 ::I hadn't really thought that much about the ways they could use them, I just thought it was odd that they didn't even consider it. Later in the series one of the Heavy Raiders comes in useful, aiding the jumps to Caprica, so in hindsight, more captured raiders could have had their uses. --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 11:33, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::This has been discussed before in the episode article. The likely reasons why the Fleet didn't pick up include what Merv said, and that while the Raider ship may be disabled, the autonomous living element of it could still "kick." I prefer to think that it wasn't worth a salvage attempt since the battlestar wasn't up to fighting as its hard drives were restored and her fighters could only do so much if reinforcements did appear. One important note: ''Galactica'' hasn't mass production facilities to use the volume of scrap that they generated from the shoot. A more modern battlestar like ''Pegasus'' could have used the stuff, but at that time to ''Galactica'', ''Pegasus'' was as dead as the rest of the Colonial Fleet. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:24, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
+:::This has been discussed before in the episode article. The likely reasons why the Fleet didn't pick up include what Merv said, and that while the Raider ship may be disabled, the autonomous living element of it could still "kick." I prefer to think that it wasn't worth a salvage attempt since the battlestar wasn't up to fighting as its hard drives were restored and her fighters could only do so much if reinforcements did appear. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:22, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::I wouldn't be surprised if Adama ordered the destruction of the Cylons purely for morale reasons.  Morale in the fleet was pretty low at that point, and letting the pilots vent on the disabled Cylons probably did wonders.  --[[User:Jack of Spades|Jack of Spades]] 12:51, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
-:::::Yeah, the episode also supports that, 'cause they show how much fun everyone's having shooting the Cylons right to hell. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:53, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
-:::::Also, I just noticed, interestingly, Adama never did order the destruction of the Cylons. He certainly supported it, but the order was given by Col. Tigh. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 07:24, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
-==Blackbird==
-Anyone else notice the [[Blackbird]] is in the middle of our Cylon Turkey Shoot picture? Hehehe --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:02, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
-:Uh... of course. That's why we picked it. (Not really.) Good spot. I hadn't noticed that had been sitting right in front of us all along. Continuation of the mad props to [[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] for the initial sighting of the blackbird in that battle. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:07, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
-::Yeah, I also tossed in a bit about the Blackbird appearing in the Notes section of the Turkey Shoot page. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:22, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
-:::WTF? Why would the Blackbird be '''there'''? She doesn't even take her maiden flight until ''after'' the battle is over. Or am I missing a joke or the use of a fake photo? Should we add an anvil, rubber chicken and kitchen sink floating through the shot to complete the thoroughness of the Colonial asskicking? :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:05, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
-::::Editing frak up, methinks. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:22, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
-:::::Thanks for the mention, Steelviper. [[Talk:Blackbird#Appearance_before_Construction.3F|Here's]] my entry on it when i initially spotted it, guys. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 09:29, 19 September 2006 (CDT)