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:''This "whiz-kid" alien character, akin to Commander Spock in the "Star Trek" series, is a type of stereotypical character not used in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]] as part of its goal to provide [[naturalistic science fiction|a realistic basis]] to both characters and technology.'' | :''This "whiz-kid" alien character, akin to Commander Spock in the "Star Trek" series, is a type of stereotypical character not used in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]] as part of its goal to provide [[naturalistic science fiction|a realistic basis]] to both characters and technology.'' | ||
While noting that the whiz-kid is a common trope is well and good, I don't think this is an appropriate place to preach the virtues of naturalistic science fiction. It would be good to cite other SF whiz-kids to bolster the point, if we decide to re-include it. Wesley Crusher comes most immediately to mind, and the cliche was parodied to good effect in "Galaxy Quest", but I can't actually think of any other examples at the moment. --[[User: | While noting that the whiz-kid is a common trope is well and good, I don't think this is an appropriate place to preach the virtues of naturalistic science fiction. It would be good to cite other SF whiz-kids to bolster the point, if we decide to re-include it. Wesley Crusher comes most immediately to mind, and the cliche was parodied to good effect in "Galaxy Quest", but I can't actually think of any other examples at the moment. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:37, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:I didn't want to go into a list of examples, although Wesley is also a good example. I added the notation because the character of Zee was one of the prime reasons why this spinoff was so remarkably poor in quality. I could add such analysis to the [[Galactica 1980]] main article or episode speculation or analysis, but it deserves to go somewhere, I feel. Even if I don't contrast NSF to it, elements such as Zee were Just. Plain. Awful. Steelviper's probably in therapy after having to fill pages in for that. | :I didn't want to go into a list of examples, although Wesley is also a good example. I added the notation because the character of Zee was one of the prime reasons why this spinoff was so remarkably poor in quality. I could add such analysis to the [[Galactica 1980]] main article or episode speculation or analysis, but it deserves to go somewhere, I feel. Even if I don't contrast NSF to it, elements such as Zee were Just. Plain. Awful. Steelviper's probably in therapy after having to fill pages in for that. | ||
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::I'm just overjoyed that somebody already WATCHED all this gunk and wrote this all down. It does doom the fund that I was building to help pay for the meth you would have needed to watch it. Two admins, locked in mortal combat... which way is it going to go? I guess I'd love to see ANY episode analysis/speculation, as the 1980 pages generally just have the summaries right now. (Don't get me wrong, I'm VERY grateful for the summaries, but I'd like everything to be uniform.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:04, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ::I'm just overjoyed that somebody already WATCHED all this gunk and wrote this all down. It does doom the fund that I was building to help pay for the meth you would have needed to watch it. Two admins, locked in mortal combat... which way is it going to go? I guess I'd love to see ANY episode analysis/speculation, as the 1980 pages generally just have the summaries right now. (Don't get me wrong, I'm VERY grateful for the summaries, but I'd like everything to be uniform.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:04, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:::It's not as if my opinion or Spencerian's count for more than any other user now that we're admins. If you'd all like the remark added back, go ahead. I just found the tone to be unnecessarily snide. --[[User: | :::It's not as if my opinion or Spencerian's count for more than any other user now that we're admins. If you'd all like the remark added back, go ahead. I just found the tone to be unnecessarily snide. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:10, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:::Ah, it's not mortal combat. WATCHING "1980"...now THAT'S mortal combat. Perhaps we can add an episode of "Far Out Space Nuts" and the worst of "Buck Rogers" to complete the madness. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:35, 3 January 2006 (EST) | :::Ah, it's not mortal combat. WATCHING "1980"...now THAT'S mortal combat. Perhaps we can add an episode of "Far Out Space Nuts" and the worst of "Buck Rogers" to complete the madness. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:35, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ||
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::::Just a (failed) attempt at humor. It was the first time I'd seen you two disagree since sysoping. I really would like to see it in one of the episode pages, if only to provide some content there. The [[Galactica 1980]] page would probably be the best place for it. Since we're drawing a comparison to another series (RDM, Trek, etc), it makes sense to do that at the series level rather than the character level. That way if they're "immersed" in the (whatever little) 1980 content they don't end up being pulled into RDM or TOS any more than they have to. Also... I was looking at the (sparse) 1980 character category. Should the TOS characters that show up in 1980 be added to that category to help fill it out? I don't think a Boomer (1980), etc, is really merited. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:24, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ::::Just a (failed) attempt at humor. It was the first time I'd seen you two disagree since sysoping. I really would like to see it in one of the episode pages, if only to provide some content there. The [[Galactica 1980]] page would probably be the best place for it. Since we're drawing a comparison to another series (RDM, Trek, etc), it makes sense to do that at the series level rather than the character level. That way if they're "immersed" in the (whatever little) 1980 content they don't end up being pulled into RDM or TOS any more than they have to. Also... I was looking at the (sparse) 1980 character category. Should the TOS characters that show up in 1980 be added to that category to help fill it out? I don't think a Boomer (1980), etc, is really merited. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:24, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:::::As | :::::As Peter said, it's more of a contributor-perception thing, not Sysop Wars :) We have disagreements all the time; we've never made them into flame wars or Peter finally realizes I'm right (/snide comment :). But this does bring up an interesting concept of a place for voting for our best and worst of the Galactica episodes, old, new, or bad. Maybe something we can incorporate somewhere here in the off-season. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:35, 3 January 2006 (EST) | ||