Editing Talk:Continuity errors (RDM)/Archive2

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== Acknowledged mistakes ==

Why are the standards for this page lower than for all other Wiki pages? If you state something as a fact, and it isn't supported by anything else, you need to give a reference. Who acknowledged the mistake of the position of the Lagoon Nebula? In the podcast for home part 2, RDM and Eick, as I recall, did acknowledge that the constellations themselves would not all be simultaneously visible from any point on Earth. My suspicion is that this is the support for saying that the Lagoon Nebula mistake was acknowledged... but it does not follow. --[[User:MHall|MHall]] 12:36, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
== What's the NPOV dispute? ==

Can't see what the objection is, why the tag? [[User:OTW|OTW]] 18:50, 8 December 2007 (CST)
: I think this has something to do with [[/Archive2|this]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 19:45, 8 December 2007 (CST)
::That's a citation issue, not an NPOV issue. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:21, 8 December 2007 (CST)
:::Sorry about that. I meant to link to [[/Archive1|this]]. There was also a Think Tank quite a while back as well, which I'm too lazy to go back and find just this moment. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 21:30, 8 December 2007 (CST)
::::OK. Considering nobody's objected in the last few months, I'm going to take down the tag.[[User:OTW|OTW]] 08:30, 9 December 2007 (CST)
== Getting Lengthy ==

Too long? Just throwing it out for discussion, have no opinion right now. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 22:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
: I think so. It might serve us to refactor this page... Just not sure how to do that exactly. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
:A bit maybe, but I think it's still manageable. There are longer pages, and this article is difficult to split up. Splitting by seasons is not possible, and going by sections wouldn't work well either. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 23:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
:: It just seems hard to read. I was the catalyst of the current layout, but like Joe, I am at a lost on what to do. It evolved this way to get the continuity discussions (which are really a "real world" debate) out of the episode articles. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 23:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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 Can't see what the objection is, why the tag? [[User:OTW|OTW]] 18:50, 8 December 2007 (CST)
 : I think this has something to do with [[/Archive2|this]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 19:45, 8 December 2007 (CST)
-::That's a citation issue, not an NPOV issue. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:21, 8 December 2007 (CST)
+::That's a citation issue, not an NPOV issue. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:21, 8 December 2007 (CST)
 :::Sorry about that. I meant to link to [[/Archive1|this]]. There was also a Think Tank quite a while back as well, which I'm too lazy to go back and find just this moment. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 21:30, 8 December 2007 (CST)
 ::::OK. Considering nobody's objected in the last few months, I'm going to take down the tag.[[User:OTW|OTW]] 08:30, 9 December 2007 (CST)
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 :A bit maybe, but I think it's still manageable. There are longer pages, and this article is difficult to split up. Splitting by seasons is not possible, and going by sections wouldn't work well either. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 23:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 :: It just seems hard to read. I was the catalyst of the current layout, but like Joe, I am at a lost on what to do. It evolved this way to get the continuity discussions (which are really a "real world" debate) out of the episode articles. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 23:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
-== Faulty Logic for a Logic Error? ==
-From the Logic Error section:
-<BLOCKQUOTE>In "Crossroads, Part II", it is inferred that Samuel Anders only began his training, as he is being shown avionics and other key systems in a Raptor by Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson]]. In this episode, he tells [[Kara Thrace]] that he concluded basic training and began [[ACM]], and is capable of flying the Viper.</BLOCKQUOTE>
-This isn't necessarily true. Just because Anders is only conducting initial training on a Raptor doesn't mean that he can't be trained already in a Viper. For example, the fleet's training methods may be that a pilot has to complete basic training on one ship design before learning another. Alternatively, especially given the fact that the Fleet has a finite amount of pilots, the fleet could be using the Viper as a basic trainer, ensuring that the new pilots are grounded in basic flight manuvers and Colonial insturmentation, before adding in the extra variables found in an electronic warfare platform such as the Raptor. --[[User:Kant Lavar|Kant Lavar]] 10:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
-: Well... logistically speaking, the problem with Anders sudden flight ability stem from these facts:
-:# In "[[The Son Also Rises]]", which takes place [[Timeline_-_Season_3_%28RDM%29#The_Son_Also_Rises|at least two weeks]] after Thrace's death in "[[Maelstrom]]", Anders breaks his leg. Now, in "[[He That Believeth In Me]]", he claims that Thrace has been gone for two months; so his leg was fully healed in 6 or 7 weeks, which seems a bit excessive, unless it was a fracture and not a clean break.
-:# By the end of that same episode, when he speaks to [[Lee Adama]], several days appear to have passed. (From the death of [[Alan Hughes]], to the various attempts on [[Romo Lampkin]]'s life, etc.) There are no indications in that one week (if we're to be conservative about it) that he signed up to be trained as a Viper jock.
-:# The fact that Anders's leg is broken would impede any practical training in a Viper. For instance, he wouldn't be able to use thruster or braking pedals, particularly since they are pivotal basic controls on a Viper. (In "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]", [[Kara Thrace]]'s damaged knee effectively grounded her, since Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] points out that she wouldn't be able to operate the thruster pedal in her condition.)
-: Also there are indications that the timeline was fudged to an absurd level, as pointed out [[Timeline - Season 3 (RDM)|here]], with the whole "two month" item I noted earlier. So there is a large error here, and it is painfully apparent that they had to fit Anders in a Viper in order to stop the Cylon attack at the nebula. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)