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A question Serenity raised in his self-deleted reply: is this legal? Does including a 4-minute piece from the OST qualify as fair use? Whom of us is qualified to make that assessment? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:37, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
A question Serenity raised in his self-deleted reply: is this legal? Does including a 4-minute piece from the OST qualify as fair use? Whom of us is qualified to make that assessment? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:37, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not sure and it's probably shady, but do we really need the whole 4 minutes? Just the start of the track would be fine for illustration purposes. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:50, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
::I agree on the legality; shouldn't have the whole thing. Just the first 15-20 seconds. Using the "[[Final Cut]]" version would be more germane than the TOS original soundtrack, if one can get it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:38, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
:::The one on the soundtrack is an extended version of the "Final Cut" music. It has the slow beginning, but then launches into a longer version of the TOS theme. Personally I prefer the TNS style TOS music - which sounds really great - to the overblown orchestra though. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:57, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree that 20-30 seconds is enough. Can someone with sound editing software [[Media:Colonial Anthem.mp3|download]] (right-click->Save as...) the MP3 and [http://media.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Colonial_Anthem.mp3 upload] a cut version with only the first 20-30 seconds? TIA --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:33, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
::::Working on it... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:23, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
::::{{check}} Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 09:25, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::Hm. It doesn't have the main theme anywhere in that cut I can hear... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:27, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::The melody is there all the way. Just with different instrumentation. It starts very low key and then turns into full blown Star Wars-style orchestra. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:29, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::Catrope asked for the first 30 seconds... Which is what I cut. Of course, if we want the theme part, then go ahead and upload that. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 09:28, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::::Actually, the first 15-20 secs was Spence's idea. But I agree another portion is better. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:05, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::::My bad; I should have been more clear. If the original file is still available in an older revision, I'll revise and upload. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:08, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
{{check}} (re)Done. It's a perfect 30 second size with the right stuff. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:38, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
: Nice! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 10:43, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
I also went ahead and deleted the both the 4 minute version and my 30 sec clip from the repository. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 10:46, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
:The free application I used on my Mac is [http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Audacity], available for Windows and Linux, too. Get the special dylib file for exporting MP3s and you're good to go. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:57, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
:For the Mac, there's a pretty cool app called [http://www.panic.com/audion Audion] that also does the job as well. Although Audacity is another great choice too. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 11:10, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
::I know about Audacity, I was just too lazy to install it :) --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:33, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
== Descriptive Term ==
For what it's worth, this is actually called "Colonial anthem" on the Season 2 sountrack. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:06, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:Noted. I'll correct it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:06, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
== Numian's 3rd Sonata ==
I wonder, would it be worth mentioning the distinct possibility that the Anthem was composed (in universe) by [[Numian's 3rd Sonata|Numian]], or at least taken from his 3rd Sonata? -- [[User:Blind Wolf|Blind Wolf]] 07:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:Bear McCreary says on his blog that Nomion is supposed to be an in-universe representation of [[Stu Phillips]] and that both the Colonial Anthem and the Sonata are his. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 11:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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