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:::Since the film is set two years into the war there is plenty of time to sort out the Mk II(I) problem. It is likely that the Mk III is largely withdrawn from service due to it being more advanced then the Mk II and thus vulnerable to a large Cylon offensive that takes advantage of growing Colonial over-confidence in how secure their computer systems are (this ties into a couple comments Adama made such as during the mini-series when he says no to a network). As for the Razor flash-backs; it only contradicts the first webisode (possibly the second). However, that was not included in the film (nor the extended version), and since it contradicted comments Adama had made implying/saying that he had extensive combat experience in the war in the series proper it makes scene that they would discount it. [[User:Phalanx-a-pedian|Phalanx-a-pedian]] 11:18, 20 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Since the film is set two years into the war there is plenty of time to sort out the Mk II(I) problem. It is likely that the Mk III is largely withdrawn from service due to it being more advanced then the Mk II and thus vulnerable to a large Cylon offensive that takes advantage of growing Colonial over-confidence in how secure their computer systems are (this ties into a couple comments Adama made such as during the mini-series when he says no to a network). As for the Razor flash-backs; it only contradicts the first webisode (possibly the second). However, that was not included in the film (nor the extended version), and since it contradicted comments Adama had made implying/saying that he had extensive combat experience in the war in the series proper it makes scene that they would discount it. [[User:Phalanx-a-pedian|Phalanx-a-pedian]] 11:18, 20 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::The film is set 10 years into the War. Two years before the Armistice. - [[User:Frylock86|Frylock]] 06:54PM, 20 March 2013 (EDT)
::::::Oops! I knew that, twas just a typo. [[User:Phalanx-a-pedian|Phalanx]] 20:25, 20 March 2013 (EDT)


:::: The reverse of this discussion is true: The "Razor Flashbacks" are the offender here, as it was largely implied (and stated outright at various points in the series) that Adama did serve during the last years of the war; the fact that Tyrol and his deck gang were able to recover and restore a Viper that (if you believe the "Razor Flashbacks") was basically destroyed into various pieces of unrecoverable scrap is proof of that. B&C simply establishes that Adama was a pilot during the war who had various missions under his belt and, as Phalanx-a-pedian rightfully points out, the statements made by Adama during the flashbacks were not included in either the uncut version or the TV version of "Razor," and were offered separately more as footnotes. (Also, as they are more "Flashbacks" where Adama recounts his experience, you can allow for the inconsistencies in his memory.)  -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:54, 20 March 2013 (EDT)
:::: The reverse of this discussion is true: The "Razor Flashbacks" are the offender here, as it was largely implied (and stated outright at various points in the series) that Adama did serve during the last years of the war; the fact that Tyrol and his deck gang were able to recover and restore a Viper that (if you believe the "Razor Flashbacks") was basically destroyed into various pieces of unrecoverable scrap is proof of that. B&C simply establishes that Adama was a pilot during the war who had various missions under his belt and, as Phalanx-a-pedian rightfully points out, the statements made by Adama during the flashbacks were not included in either the uncut version or the TV version of "Razor," and were offered separately more as footnotes. (Also, as they are more "Flashbacks" where Adama recounts his experience, you can allow for the inconsistencies in his memory.)  -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:54, 20 March 2013 (EDT)
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This article is very good at revealing what it took to get B&C to production, and dispels that $2 million budget rumor — it was more than that: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/blood-chrome-a-possible-vfx-future/ -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:08, 2 January 2013 (EST)
This article is very good at revealing what it took to get B&C to production, and dispels that $2 million budget rumor — it was more than that: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/blood-chrome-a-possible-vfx-future/ -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:08, 2 January 2013 (EST)
== Summary (taken from Wikipedia) ==
[Summary purged by Joe B. as it is a copyright violation from Wikipedia, which does not share the same licensing schema as BSGW. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:29, 1 July 2013 (EDT)]
:Enabran, why did you put this here? -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 14:03, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
:: Because there are parts of the story missing and I do not have the time to edit and interlink this text here. My working station is the german Wiki. But I think it is a good way for you to start editing it from here and put it on the mainpage later when all work is done. -- [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 14:45, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
:::No, this really isn't such a good way to go about it, since your reason for doing this isn't immediately obvious.  Besides, someone might just copy and paste the unedited Wikipedia text directly onto the main page without rewriting it for our wiki.  If you want to recruit help in writing a summary, then you should probably do it in a more direct way--put out an announcement.  Otherwise, you should wait for another user to see the missing summary and be interested enough in writing it on her/his own, or you can do it yourself later in the future when you have more time.  Believe me, if it's empty for a while longer, it won't be a big deal, so it can wait.  Summaries for many ''Caprica'' episodes have been neglected for a longer time (since October-November 2010) than the ''Blood and Chrome'' summary (since December 2012). -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 15:54, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
FYI: I've purged the copy and paste copyright violation referred to above. While its placement was well intentioned by Enabran, we can't have that here for the reason of licensing disparities between us and Wikipedia.. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:29, 1 July 2013 (EDT)
== Joseph Falsetti as Derek Shelby (uncredited) ==
I found this credit on IMDb, but the only thing backing it up are a bunch of copy-and-paste sites. I can't say I recall the name of the character anywhere, so I could be wrong. However, they also list [[Allison Warnyca]] reprising her role as [[Jaycie McGavin]], which I'm confident is nowhere in the film, so it doesn't look to stand on good reliability. Although it's worth noting that this guy's filmography has a quite a few other uncredited part. So, can anyway confirm or deny this? -- [[User:Mars|Mars]] 04:01, 11 April 2015 (EDT)

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