Editing Talk:Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)/Archive 1

==Thoughts on Canonicity of the Video Game==

Brief history: The video game was originally developed as a tie-in to the Singer/DeSantos continuation project. After that fell through, it was substantially revamped and placed during the Cylon War of the Ronald D. Moore continuity. However, it clearly has a foot in both universes - many of the sound effects come from the original series, as do the appearances of most of the ships (notably the ''Galactica'' herself).

Nevertheless, the Video Game may prove to be our primary source for events during the course of the Cylon War. I suggest that where its events do not flatly contradict the RDM series, it can be used as a highly tentative historical source, as long as the dubious canonicity of the source is noted wherever cited.

::''User [[User:cp.hayes|cp.hayes]]  19:55, 18 September 2005 (EDT) says:''
:To me, the only things considered Canon should be that whioh is aired in the broadcast series. I do not think the video game should have any bearing or entries as far as the broadcast series is concerned. I would consider canon only that whick airs in the broadcast series or "MAYBE" that which Ron D. Moore says.

:As far as I am concerned, anything in the video game is not canon.

:(By the way, typing is hard sometimes)

::Well, the revised video game script did originate with RDM. That's why I think that we can take it (with a large grain of salt) as instructive information where nothing else is available - subordinate in canonicity to actual episode content and RDM's public comments in his blog and podcasts. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:00, 18 September 2005 (EDT)

:No it can't.  Why? Because most of the information in it is just made up for purposes of the game:  the storyline is notoriously shoddy.  Long story short:  something WE made up would be just as accurate as the Video Game.  We should note it under "Notes" but it is totally non-canonical.  --Ricimer, 18 Sept, 2005

::At least part of the game script was suggested by RDM, although his input may not have been followed carefully. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:02, 18 September 2005 (EDT)

To bring this topic up to date: The video game, as is the official comic, is an official product, but since it contradicts with many aspects of both series, please consider the video game and its characters and objects as a separate continuity. Use the <nowiki>{{separatecontinuity}}</nowiki> tag to mark any article derived from this video game.--[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 23:26, 1 July 2006 (CDT)

==Cheat codes==
The <nowiki><hide>, <showhide></nowiki> code does not appear to be working at this time. Calling the [[User:Shane|Wiki Code Master]]! [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 11:23, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:I believe that most hide/showhide things are javascript, which is disabled around here. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:27, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:I have disabled those tags for now. Not yet up to date for 1.9. Will check if there is an update. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:30, 11 January 2007 (CST)
I've replaced them with spoiltext tags for now. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 14:32, 23 February 2007 (CST)

== Links ==

We have an extensive collection of articles related to the Video game (see the category), but this short article links to very few of them. How can this be remedied, if it needs to be? [[User:OTW|OTW]] 20:19, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

==Xbox 360 game?==
What about the Xbox 360 game that was recently released? {{unsigned|BSGmarine}}
:The game you are on about is the [[BSG Arcade]] game. It is not yet available which is why details are a little thin. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 05:16, 10 September 2007 (CDT)

== Requested move ==

Please move article to [[Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)]], for consistency/sanity (there are two games now; see [[BSG Arcade]] which also needs a more intelligible name). — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 04:51, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
:Done. Also moving articles like [[Raider (Video Game)]] to [[Raider (2003 Video Game)]] and updating links. We'll also have to reform the category system on this point, with [[Category:Video Game]] becoming parent cat for [[:Category:2003 Video Game]] and [[:Category:2007 Video Game]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:18, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
:For consistency, shouldn't that simply be [[Raider (2003 game}]]? The "video" disambiguation wouldn't be needed unless there were also a [[Raider (2003 board game)]] or something.  And "video" and "game" aren't proper nouns, so no need for capitalization. :-) NB: I already fixed the disambiguation between the two ''BG'' console games, in their hatnotes. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 07:41, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
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 :(By the way, typing is hard sometimes)
-::Well, the revised video game script did originate with RDM. That's why I think that we can take it (with a large grain of salt) as instructive information where nothing else is available - subordinate in canonicity to actual episode content and RDM's public comments in his blog and podcasts. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:00, 18 September 2005 (EDT)
+::Well, the revised video game script did originate with RDM. That's why I think that we can take it (with a large grain of salt) as instructive information where nothing else is available - subordinate in canonicity to actual episode content and RDM's public comments in his blog and podcasts. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:00, 18 September 2005 (EDT)
 :No it can't.  Why? Because most of the information in it is just made up for purposes of the game:  the storyline is notoriously shoddy.  Long story short:  something WE made up would be just as accurate as the Video Game.  We should note it under "Notes" but it is totally non-canonical.  --Ricimer, 18 Sept, 2005
-::At least part of the game script was suggested by RDM, although his input may not have been followed carefully. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:02, 18 September 2005 (EDT)
+::At least part of the game script was suggested by RDM, although his input may not have been followed carefully. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:02, 18 September 2005 (EDT)
 To bring this topic up to date: The video game, as is the official comic, is an official product, but since it contradicts with many aspects of both series, please consider the video game and its characters and objects as a separate continuity. Use the <nowiki>{{separatecontinuity}}</nowiki> tag to mark any article derived from this video game.--[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 23:26, 1 July 2006 (CDT)
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 Please move article to [[Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)]], for consistency/sanity (there are two games now; see [[BSG Arcade]] which also needs a more intelligible name). — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 04:51, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-:Done. Also moving articles like [[Raider (Video Game)]] to [[Raider (2003 Video Game)]] and updating links. We'll also have to reform the category system on this point, with [[:Category:Video Game]] becoming parent cat for [[:Category:2003 Video Game]] and [[:Category:2007 Video Game]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:18, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
+:Done. Also moving articles like [[Raider (Video Game)]] to [[Raider (2003 Video Game)]] and updating links. We'll also have to reform the category system on this point, with [[Category:Video Game]] becoming parent cat for [[:Category:2003 Video Game]] and [[:Category:2007 Video Game]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:18, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-:For consistency, shouldn't that simply be [[Raider (2003 game)]]? The "video" disambiguation wouldn't be needed unless there were also a [[Raider (2003 board game)]] or something.  And "video" and "game" aren't proper nouns, so no need for capitalization. :-) NB: I already fixed the disambiguation between the two ''BG'' console games, in their hatnotes. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 07:41, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
+:For consistency, shouldn't that simply be [[Raider (2003 game}]]? The "video" disambiguation wouldn't be needed unless there were also a [[Raider (2003 board game)]] or something.  And "video" and "game" aren't proper nouns, so no need for capitalization. :-) NB: I already fixed the disambiguation between the two ''BG'' console games, in their hatnotes. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 07:41, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-::True and true. However, (Video Game) seemed to be more or less of an established standard. If we decide it should be (2003 game) after all, I'll leave the dirty work of converting that to the one who came up with (Video Game) in the first place ;) Although it may also be decided (out of laziness), that (2003 Video Game) should be the standard and that this article should be renamed. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:55, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-:::Where would this discussion take place (I'm not sure where all the "places" are here, in comparison to Wikipedia, like your equivalent of the Village Pump, AFD/CFD/TFD/MFD, and so on); I would like to weigh in with the K.I.S.S. principle, especially don't over-disambiguate, and be grammatical and such things. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 14:24, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-::::A new section at [[Talk:Video Game]] would be the best place, I think. Our equivalent of the Village Pump is the [[BW:TANK|Think Tank]], but that's really meant for larger things than a disambig decision. About over-disambiguating, we generally don't do that ([[Viper (2003 Video Game)]] because we also have [[Viper (RDM)]] and [[Viper (TOS)]], but [[Iphigenia]] isn't disambiguated). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:04, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-::::Generally, we don't disambiguate when there's only one of something. As for general discussions, the [[BW:TANK|Think Tank]] is a good place for major discussions of scope; we also have the [[BW:WQ|Wikipedians' Quorum]] for discussions. And for administrator/chief related matters we have the [[BW:AN|Administrators' noticeboard]].-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 15:13, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-:::::Since this is a one-issue thing (how to disambiguate video games), I would recommend that it be discussed on [[Talk:Video Game]], which feels like a logical place. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:30, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-:::I have now reformed the category system for video games. For a schematic overview, see [[Special:Categorytree/Video Game|here]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:08, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
-== Quasi-merge ==
-A whole bunch of material at [[Galactica (Video Game)]] really belongs in ''this'' article, and is essentially off-topic blathering at ''that'' article.  Much discussion of the game play, characters, etc., simply doesn't belong in what should be a very concise article about the ship in the game, and is blatantly missing from the article on the game (including the exact release date). I had an HTML-comment note in this article to this effect, but it was removed, so I'm bringing it up here in more detail instead. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 01:14, 1 October 2007 (CDT)