Editing Talk:Battle of the Algae Planet/Archive 1

== Name of Battle ==

1. So I just threw this page up so that we'd have the beginning of a summary to make things easier to write out when we see the conclusion in January, but I know that the title of the article, and battle, may be a bit controversial.  Is it a "battle?"  We don't really know yet.  It is a "Standoff," "Crisis," etc.?  It'll be easy enough to change the title later on if consensus shows that it isn't a "battle."  There have been shots fired and losses taken; Starbuck was downed hit by SAM fire.

2. Also annoying, no one has gone and officially named the site of the battle as the "Algae Planet."  Most either use "Algae planet" or "algae planet."  The [[Algae planet]] page has been started, so this shouldn't be much of a big deal, because the word "planet" in a battle title would be capitalized regardless of whether it is capitalized in the name of the planet or not. - [[User:Keithustus|Keithustus]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (CST)

I think the name of the page should be changed ; their not fighting for the planet but rather for the eye - so "Battle for the Eye of Jupiter" is a more logical choice. --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 19:40, 16 December 2006 (CST)

The show itself also calls the place "Algae planet" ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]). Maybe we should wait for ''[[Rapture]]'' to air before we take any decisions, as it will show the rest of the battle and provide more ground for calling it a battle/standoff/crisis/whatever. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 09:37, 18 December 2006 (CST)
:"Battle for the Eye of Jupiter" is a cool name, but its probably best to wait until the next episode airs before making any drastic changes --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 15:50, 18 December 2006 (CST)

Fair enough. Can't wait till the next ep, shame it's a month away :( --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 20:02, 18 December 2006 (CST)

Concur; the name can always be changed once the battle is concluded, although I suggest "Battle for the Eye" in the interest of brevity. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 22:42, 18 December 2006 (CST)

Why bother with brevity if we've also got "Battle of NCD2539"? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 08:50, 19 December 2006 (CST)

:While "NCD2539" doesn't roll off the tongue, it is a short search term. Battlestar Wiki is an encyclopedia, so any effort to shorten, simplify or differentiate a search term when possible to avoid numerous redirects or disambiguations. Sometimes keeping length down isn't easy, such as "[[Standoff Between Galactica and Pegasus]]", a title that had a long debate on its talk page. "Battle of the Eye" is OK as it will have links, is short, and differentiates itself well. "Battle of the Algae Planet" is OK but also shares its name with the planet's article. "Battle for the Eye of Jupiter" is long and creates confusion with the artifact's article and the episode article. One could argue that association by title ''is'' a good idea in searching, but we just have to watch length and frequency of use. Search for "Pegasus" and you will understand why differentiation is important in considering a name when it is very common. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:30, 19 December 2006 (CST)
::Agreed, there's Pegasus (episode) and Pegasus (ship) for both RDM and TOS. I can live with pretty much any of the names you suggest (Battle of the Eye , Battle of the Eye of Jupiter, Battle of the Algae Planet), but due to the "Battle of the"-prefix, confusion is much less likely to occur than with Pegasus. Also compare "Resurrection Ship", "Resurrection Ship, Part I", "Resurrection Ship, Part II", "Battle of the Resurrection Ship", not too much confusion there either. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 10:41, 19 December 2006 (CST)
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 :While "NCD2539" doesn't roll off the tongue, it is a short search term. Battlestar Wiki is an encyclopedia, so any effort to shorten, simplify or differentiate a search term when possible to avoid numerous redirects or disambiguations. Sometimes keeping length down isn't easy, such as "[[Standoff Between Galactica and Pegasus]]", a title that had a long debate on its talk page. "Battle of the Eye" is OK as it will have links, is short, and differentiates itself well. "Battle of the Algae Planet" is OK but also shares its name with the planet's article. "Battle for the Eye of Jupiter" is long and creates confusion with the artifact's article and the episode article. One could argue that association by title ''is'' a good idea in searching, but we just have to watch length and frequency of use. Search for "Pegasus" and you will understand why differentiation is important in considering a name when it is very common. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:30, 19 December 2006 (CST)
-::Agreed, there's Pegasus (episode) and Pegasus (ship) for both RDM and TOS. I can live with pretty much any of the names you suggest (Battle of the Eye , Battle of the Eye of Jupiter, Battle of the Algae Planet), but due to the "Battle of the"-prefix, confusion is much less likely to occur than with Pegasus. Also compare "Resurrection Ship", "Resurrection Ship, Part I", "Resurrection Ship, Part II", "Battle of the Resurrection Ship", not too much confusion there either. And even if people get confused, all those pages link to eachother. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 10:41, 19 December 2006 (CST)
+::Agreed, there's Pegasus (episode) and Pegasus (ship) for both RDM and TOS. I can live with pretty much any of the names you suggest (Battle of the Eye , Battle of the Eye of Jupiter, Battle of the Algae Planet), but due to the "Battle of the"-prefix, confusion is much less likely to occur than with Pegasus. Also compare "Resurrection Ship", "Resurrection Ship, Part I", "Resurrection Ship, Part II", "Battle of the Resurrection Ship", not too much confusion there either. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 10:41, 19 December 2006 (CST)
-Ok we should definitely chance the name - the battle wasn't in space for the planet, but rather for eye. Could someone also find a pic from the land battle? considering it ALL took place on the planet we should replace it. --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 08:43, 22 January 2007 (CST)
-:How about "Battle for the Eye of Jupiter"? And as to the picture, maybe someone can get a shot of Anders&Co. blowing up those three chromejobs... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]
-::It was more of a standoff than an actual battle. Like the Standoff between Galactica and Pegasus in series 2 --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:31, 24 January 2007 (CST)
-:::In Galactica vs. Pegasus, not a single shot or missile was fired. Here we have Centurions taking down a Raptor, Adama threatening to nuke the hell out of a planet and fire exchange between Anders' team and three Centurions. Hell, we even have losses: one Centurion (first legless, then destroyed) and a couple of people on Anders' team who got shot. Also, Baltar managed to kill a Cavil. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 03:54, 24 January 2007 (CST)
-What defines a battle or skirmish? to me, a skirmish is not a matter of size but place, for instance over the red moon the raiders and starbuck were not after anything, but just found themselves in the same place. In this both the Cylons and Colonials are battling for the eye. Colonials to keep, Cylons to have. So to, at least me and Catrope, this is a battle not a skirmish. --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 21:54, 24 January 2007 (CST)
-:Wouldn't a more appropriate name for this encounter be "Standoff over the Algae Planet"?-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 06:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-::Probably. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 06:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-:::But not as "exciting" - said in the voice of Scotty from the Trek re-boot   :)-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 06:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-::::Nah, not at as exciting. We'll wait to hear if anyone wants to voice their opinion, otherwise I do agree that the name should be changed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 06:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Number of Basestars ==
-I'm going to be putting this under the notes section too since this is a continuity error: in The Eye of Jupiter its shown and said that there are four basestars at the planet, but in Rapture you can only see three in shots of the Cylon fleet and when the ships jump out.  Where did the last basestar go???--[[User:WarGrowlmon15|WarGrowlmon15]] 23:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)