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*Why are so many Viper pilots tasked with a recon mission carried out by Raptors? Did ''Pegasus'' lose many Raptor pilots?
*Why are so many Viper pilots tasked with a recon mission carried out by Raptors? Did ''Pegasus'' lose many Raptor pilots?


== Official Statements ==
== Official Statements ==  
*''In an [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm interview with BattlestarGalactica.com on December 28th, 2005] RDM was asked about controversy surrounding this episode:''


=== Interviews ===
:"Q: Walt Kelly's Pogo used the phrase "the enemy is us" as part of a 1970's anti-litter campaign, and recently David Eick has cited it as a theme in the longer Pegasus arc of the second season. Some of the show's vocal critics charge that this notion promotes a "Blame America" attitude or is a sort of stealth anti-Americanism. What is this concept supposed to convey as we head into the bottom half of the second season?


{{Dialogue
:'''RDM:''' The reference is to the fact that human beings are often their own worst enemy. In the context of the show, it means that the real challenges to who and what these people are often comes not from bullets, but from within. I continue to be amazed at how easily one gets tagged with the moniker of "anti-American" these days by those on the right. It's almost... well, anti-American."
| context = [[Ronald D. Moore|RDM]] on the "enemy is us" theme and the "anti-American" label:
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'''Q:''' Walt Kelly's Pogo used the phrase "the enemy is us" as part of a 1970's anti-litter campaign, and recently David Eick has cited it as a theme in the longer ''Pegasus'' arc of the second season. Some of the show's vocal critics charge that this notion promotes a "Blame America" attitude or is a sort of stealth anti-Americanism. What is this concept supposed to convey as we head into the bottom half of the second season?


'''[[Ronald D. Moore]]:''' The reference is to the fact that human beings are often their own worst enemy. In the context of the show, it means that the real challenges to who and what these people are often comes not from bullets, but from within. I continue to be amazed at how easily one gets tagged with the moniker of "anti-American" these days by those on the right. It's almost... well, anti-American.
* ''From [http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/aaron_douglas_01.htm TheSciFiWorld.net's interview] with [[Aaron Douglas]]:''
| source = <ref name="bsg_com_rdm">{{cite web | url = http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm | title = Interview: Ronald D. Moore | publisher = BattlestarGalactica.com | date = 2005-12-28 | accessdate = 2025-12-24 }}</ref>
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{{Dialogue
: '''Gilles Nuytens:''' I read some critics about the "rape" scene shown in the last episode aired, as you played in this scene, what's your opinion on it?
| context = [[Aaron Douglas]] on the controversy of the [[Sharon Agathon|Sharon]] "rape" scene:
: '''Aaron Douglas:''' BSG is a reflection of real life and these types of events go on everyday. Many people were upset by it but to me they need to realize that this is the world we live in. Does that mean they have or want to watch? Absolutely not but do not discount it as sensationalism. What we shot was so much more graphic than what was aired and I understand why they did not use it. In what aired the rape had not totally begun. It was suggestive. I thought it was a good scene and on point with the story and not added to draw in viewers. That suggestion is absurd. I know Ron Moore very well and he is not the kind of person or writer to add scenes purely for sensationalistic or ratings purposes. They have to be on point, truthfully reflect the situation and today's world and be relevant to the story or they are not there. It also amazes me that people have no problem with beatings, shootings, bombings, stabbings etc. but show a breast, a bottom, or a grope and they fly off the wall to condemn it.
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'''Gilles Nuytens:''' I read some critics about the "rape" scene shown in the last episode aired, as you played in this scene, what's your opinion on it?  


'''[[Aaron Douglas]]:''' BSG is a reflection of real life and these types of events go on everyday. Many people were upset by it but to me they need to realize that this is the world we live in. Does that mean they have or want to watch? Absolutely not but do not discount it as sensationalism. What we shot was so much more graphic than what was aired and I understand why they did not use it.  
: This happens in all areas of film, television and theatre and it is ridiculous.


In what aired the rape had not totally begun. It was suggestive. I thought it was a good scene and on point with the story and not added to draw in viewers. That suggestion is absurd. I know Ron Moore very well and he is not the kind of person or writer to add scenes purely for sensationalistic or ratings purposes. They have to be on point, truthfully reflect the situation and today's world and be relevant to the story or they are not there.
* ''From [http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2674 Hollywood North Report: Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part II], article on filming the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I|series finale]] and an interview with [[Mary McDonnell]]:''
| source = <ref name="sfw_douglas">{{cite web | url = http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/aaron_douglas_01.htm | title = Aaron Douglas interview | last = Nuytens | first = Gilles | publisher = TheSciFiWorld.net | accessdate = 2025-12-24 }}</ref>
}}


{{Dialogue
: '''Robert Falconer:''' Speaking of bleak, you had some pretty strong feelings about how people reacted to that rape scene at the end of Pegasus, and the overall problem of how violence against women tends to be portrayed on television.
| context = [[Mary McDonnell]] on the portrayal of violence against women in television:
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'''Robert Falconer:''' Speaking of bleak, you had some pretty strong feelings about how people reacted to that rape scene at the end of Pegasus, and the overall problem of how violence against women tends to be portrayed on television.  


'''[[Mary McDonnell]]:''' I have strong feelings about this as a woman; it’s a huge button for me, the issue of violence against women on television and how much of this stuff we’re going to pump out there before it becomes an accepted point of view that that’s what happens to women, and no-one takes responsibility and there’s no consequences.  
: '''[[Mary McDonnell]]''': I have strong feelings about this as a woman; it’s a huge button for me, the issue of violence against women on television and how much of this stuff we’re going to pump out there before it becomes an accepted point of view that that’s what happens to women, and no-one takes responsibility and there’s no consequences.


So for me, the fact that it was so upsetting to people when presented on ''Battlestar Galactica'' is a very good thing. It ''should'' be upsetting. It ''needs'' to be very, very upsetting. One ''should'' watch it and think, “I don’t want to see that!” We shouldn’t be using the fragility or vulnerability of the female body as a “technique” around which to build entertainment.  
:But there’s a big difference between crystallizing it inside a genre that doesn’t do it very often; making it part of one story one week, and the mainstream, non-sci-fi television where we become used to seeing women being raped and killed and mutilated—and other horrible things. ''That’s'' the sad thing.
| source = <ref name="hnr_mcdonnell">{{cite web | url = http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2674 | title = Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part II: Mary McDonnell | last = Falconer | first = Robert | publisher = Hollywood North Report | accessdate = 2025-12-24 }}</ref>
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{{Dialogue
:So for me, the fact that it was so upsetting to people when presented on ''Battlestar Galactica'' is a very good thing. It ''should'' be upsetting. It ''needs'' to be very, very upsetting. One ''should'' watch it and think, “I don’t want to see that!We shouldn’t be using the fragility or vulnerability of the female body as a “technique” around which to build entertainment.
| context = [[Edward James Olmos]] on Adama's decision to face off against [[Helena Cain|Admiral Cain]]:
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'''Robert Falconer''': By the end of “Pegasus,” Adama makes a decision with potentially sweeping consequences... Is this a decision he will be able to live with as a military leader?


'''[[Edward James Olmos]]:''' I think Adama’s decision to attack the ''Pegasus'' could be interpreted as strictly military in nature. You don’t leave anybody behind, and protecting your men is a fundamental tenet of any military leader.  
:I believe if ''Galactica'' were doing that sort of thing all the time, then the show would have a problem. But the way it was portrayed enables people to dialogue and talk about these sorts of things. Fires should be lit. And we should hear. Then you know if you’re in the ballpark of something that is really relevant, or if you’re being exploitive. And I have a lot of respect for the people who got upset as well as the people who wrote it.


In fact, you could argue that he has no consideration for anyone OTHER than his military guys aboard the Pegasus—he’s not thinking about the fleet at that moment, he’s not even thinking about the future of either of those two battlestars, because they’re going to blast each other to bits, since he’s not going to give into Cain’s craziness.
* ''From [http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2363 Hollywood North Report: Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part I], which includes an interview with [[Edward James Olmos]]:''
| source = <ref name="hnr_olmos">{{cite web | url = http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2363 | title = Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part I: Edward James Olmos | last = Falconer | first = Robert | publisher = Hollywood North Report | accessdate = 2025-12-24 }}</ref>
}}


: '''Robert Falconer''': By the end of “Pegasus,” Adama makes a decision with potentially sweeping consequences, but one that logically follows from everything that has happened to him up to that point. Is this a decision he will be able to live with as a military leader?


: '''Edward James Olmos''': I think Adama’s decision to attack the ''Pegasus'' could be interpreted as strictly military in nature. You don’t leave anybody behind, and protecting your men is a fundamental tenet of any military leader. In fact, you could argue that he has no consideration for anyone OTHER than his military guys aboard the Pegasus—he’s not thinking about the fleet at that moment, he’s not even thinking about the future of either of those two battlestars, because they’re going to blast each other to bits, since he’s not going to give into Cain’s craziness.


{{Dialogue
: '''Robert''': The rape scene toward the end of “Pegasus” has stirred up a lot of controversy in certain quarters. Ironically, there seems to be something of a disconnect here; people seem more willing to accept this in contemporary mainstream drama than they do in television science fiction, almost as if they’ve become conditioned to science fiction presenting a sanitized view of the future. Any thoughts on that?
| context = [[Leah Cairns]] on [[James Callis]] impersonating Adama during a take:
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'''[[Leah Cairns]]:''' [[Edward James Olmos|Eddie]] wandered off set in the middle of shooting. He thought we were on a little break... and [[Michael Rymer]], the director didn't notice and called action! It was a close up on [[Michelle Forbes]] and Rymer had no idea that Eddie wasn't there. And Michelle Forbes being the professional that she is... when the camera is rolling you do your business... so she started the scene!


But there was no one to respond to her! So [[James Callis]] nonchalantly comes over and steps into Eddie's place and puts on the best Adama voice you'd ever heard! Better than Eddie can do! ''(laughs)'' And they did the entire scene with Michelle and James Callis as Adama... Mary ''[McDonnell]'' just couldn't keep it together and started laughing and Michelle... what can she do? She killed herself laughing!  
: '''Edward James Olmos''': Well for those who were particularly upset by the scene to which you refer, I pray to god they don’t watch because it’s only going to get worse. They should be warned right now: please turn off your television sets and do not watch this show because it’s only going to provide more insight into the complexities of what happens to human beings. I would say that the minority of people who were freaked out by the rape scene are likely to be jarred into unconsciousness. So I say to them: do not watch this program, it could be hazardous to your health.
| source = <ref name="sfw_cairns">{{cite web | url = http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/leah_cairns_01.htm | title = Leah Cairns interview | last = Nuytens | first = Gilles | publisher = TheSciFiWorld.net | date = 2007-03-21 | accessdate = 2025-12-24 }}</ref>
 
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: For everyone else, hang on, ‘cause it’s gonna be a helluva ride…
 
* ''[[Leah Cairns]] discusses a humorous incident while shooting the episode:''
 
: '''[[Leah Cairns]]:''' One of the funniest things shooting a specific scene happened when we were shooting a scene where ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' meets ''[[Galactica (TRS)|Galactica]]''. A scene with [[Michelle Forbes]] in it when Forbes and [[William Adama|Adama]] see each other in the hangar deck. [[Edward James Olmos|Eddie [James Olmos]]] wandered off set in the middle of shooting. He thought we were on a little break, and he wandered off, and [[Michael Rymer]], the director didn't notice and called action! It was a close up on Michelle Forbes and Rymer had no idea that Eddie wasn't there. And Michelle Forbes being the professional that she is.... when the camera is rolling you do your business..... so she started the scene! But there was no one to respond to her! So [[James Callis]] nonchalantly comes over and steps into Eddie's place and puts on the best Adama voice you'd ever heard! Better than Eddie can do! (laughs) And they did the entire scene with Michelle and James Callis as Adama, and Michelle almost pulled it off, except [[Mary McDonnell|Mary [McDonnell]]] got the giggles and started laughing and then all the background started laughing and Michael Rymer, who STILL doesn't know that Eddie left, comes out and starts yelling at everybody because we were all laughing during the take! And then he looks around and says ....where the hell is Eddie and realizes that the whole scene was bogus!
 
: '''Gilles Nuytens:''' It seems funny yeah. What was the reaction of Michelle Forbes?
 
: '''Leah Cairns:''' She was so great! There was this tiny little hint.... you could see in her eyes just a tiny bit that... I think she thought she'd just go along with it until Michael Rymer actually figured it out. But Callis just steps in and starts talking like Adama.... so she just went with it! She was trying so hard to keep it together! Sometimes in situations like that some really great moments can come about and sometimes magic can happen on camera ...... but Mary just couldn't keep it together and started laughing and Michelle ... what can she do? She killed herself laughing! The only person who didn't laugh was Callis, he was dead pan through the entire thing. He was so set on playing Adama, he was just awesome!<ref name="sfw">{{cite_web|url=http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/leah_cairns_01.htm|title=The Scifi World: Leah Cairns interview|date=21 March 2007|accessdate=10 April 2007|last=Nuytens|first=Giles|format=|language=}}</ref>


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