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==General factors for consideration== | ==General factors for consideration== | ||
In terms of narrative, to prevent an anti-climax it seems likely that the final Cylon would probably need to be a more prominent character than those of the Four. This centers the spotlight in the central "human" characters ([[Roslin]], [[William Adama|William]] and | In terms of narrative, to prevent an anti-climax it seems likely that the final Cylon would probably need to be a more prominent character than those of the Four. This centers the spotlight in the central "human" characters ([[Roslin]], [[William Adama|William]] and [[Lee Adama]], [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] and {{callsign|Starbuck}}). However, there is still half a season for characters to develop and gain significance with viewers. | ||
With the Final Five being "fundamentally different" from the Seven, extrapolating any characteristics we learned of Cylons from the Seven (including physiology, loyalty or self-awareness) is of questionable validity. | With the Final Five being "fundamentally different" from the Seven, extrapolating any characteristics we learned of Cylons from the Seven (including physiology, loyalty or self-awareness) is of questionable validity. | ||
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The [[first Hybrid]] gives a monologue about his knowledge of the Final Five in the extended version of "[[Razor]]". It states that the fifth Cylon, which is still in shadow, will come toward the light, hungering for redemption which will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. | The [[first Hybrid]] gives a monologue about his knowledge of the Final Five in the extended version of "[[Razor]]". It states that the fifth Cylon, which is still in shadow, will come toward the light, hungering for redemption which will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. | ||
With the exception of | With the exception of [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Cally Tyrol]], who are confirmed to have half-Cylon, half-human children<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=hybridnick|timestamp=22:41|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref>, any "human" character could be a Cylon. | ||
In "[[Revelations]]," [[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|D'Anna Biers]], mentions that there are only four of them ''in the Fleet''. If this is true, then this would narrow the field to those characters who are on the rebel basestar at the time, characters previously assumed dead or missing, or other [[#More Esoteric ideas|more esoteric suggestions]]. However, it is uncertain if the statement can be taken so literally. The characters who are on ''Galactica'' or other ships of the Fleet include Lee Adama and Kara Thrace, while Laura Roslin, William Adama and Gaius Baltar are on the Cylon baseship at that time {{TRS|Revelations}}. An alternative interpretation of "in the Fleet" could refer to loyalty and/or self-identity rather than physical presence; Number Three could have been telepathically aware that one (i.e., [[Tory Foster]]) had embraced her Cylon identity, thus leaving four others still loyal to humanity. | In "[[Revelations]]," [[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|D'Anna Biers]], mentions that there are only four of them ''in the Fleet''. If this is true, then this would narrow the field to those characters who are on the rebel basestar at the time, characters previously assumed dead or missing, or other [[#More Esoteric ideas|more esoteric suggestions]]. However, it is uncertain if the statement can be taken so literally. The characters who are on ''Galactica'' or other ships of the Fleet include Lee Adama and Kara Thrace, while Laura Roslin, William Adama and Gaius Baltar are on the Cylon baseship at that time {{TRS|Revelations}}. An alternative interpretation of "in the Fleet" could refer to loyalty and/or self-identity rather than physical presence; Number Three could have been telepathically aware that one (i.e., [[Tory Foster]]) had embraced her Cylon identity, thus leaving four others still loyal to humanity. | ||
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William Adama experiences guilt for actions he believe may have triggered the war {{TRS|Hero}}. This could be the "hungering for redemption" that the [[First Hybrid]] talks about (see above). | William Adama experiences guilt for actions he believe may have triggered the war {{TRS|Hero}}. This could be the "hungering for redemption" that the [[First Hybrid]] talks about (see above). | ||
=== | ===[[Lee Adama]]=== | ||
[[File:Lee_Adama_promo.jpg|right|90px]] | [[File:Lee_Adama_promo.jpg|right|90px]] | ||
Could Lee's chronic angst be partly due to guilt at his Cylon nature? Was the [[Leoben]] who said "Adama's a Cylon" {{TRS|Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down}} referring to Lee? (Note: The writers hadn't decided on the identity of the final Cylon at that point. Moreover, if Adama were a member of the Final Five, Leoben would not know this.) He might project in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]," although this is more likely an oxygen deprivation induced hallucination. | Could Lee's chronic angst be partly due to guilt at his Cylon nature? Was the [[Leoben]] who said "Adama's a Cylon" {{TRS|Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down}} referring to Lee? (Note: The writers hadn't decided on the identity of the final Cylon at that point. Moreover, if Adama were a member of the Final Five, Leoben would not know this.) He might project in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]," although this is more likely an oxygen deprivation induced hallucination. | ||
The posting of his then-wife [[Anastasia Dualla]] as ''Pegasus''{{'|s}} executive officer, despite her lack of seasoning and non-qualification as an aviator, while presumably mitigating the concerns about a junior having undue influence with the commander, also mirrors the placement of ''Galactica''{{'|s}} XOs: Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], a Cylon is romantically involved with a Six, and Captain | The posting of his then-wife [[Anastasia Dualla]] as ''Pegasus''{{'|s}} executive officer, despite her lack of seasoning and non-qualification as an aviator, while presumably mitigating the concerns about a junior having undue influence with the commander, also mirrors the placement of ''Galactica''{{'|s}} XOs: Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], a Cylon is romantically involved with a Six, and Captain [[Karl Agathon]] is married to an Eight. | ||
Lee Adama is told that he is "a son trying to flee his father's shadow" by [[Romo Lampkin]]. This conceivably could link with the description of the final Cylon as "still in shadow, drawn toward the light." | Lee Adama is told that he is "a son trying to flee his father's shadow" by [[Romo Lampkin]]. This conceivably could link with the description of the final Cylon as "still in shadow, drawn toward the light." | ||
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In [[Caprica-Six]]'s final vision in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" she sees the hooded figures of the final five staring at her from the upper level. Baltar is standing next to her in the vision as well. | In [[Caprica-Six]]'s final vision in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" she sees the hooded figures of the final five staring at her from the upper level. Baltar is standing next to her in the vision as well. | ||
=== | ===[[Kara Thrace]]=== | ||
[[File:Kara_Thrace.jpg|right|90px]] | [[File:Kara_Thrace.jpg|right|90px]] | ||
{{seealso|The Destiny}} | {{seealso|The Destiny}} | ||
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The rejection of her people's pacifism and her failure to reconcile with her father over their final heated argument {{TRS|Final Cut}} allude to the redemption angle. | The rejection of her people's pacifism and her failure to reconcile with her father over their final heated argument {{TRS|Final Cut}} allude to the redemption angle. | ||
At the time of the initial Cylon attack, she immediately threw herself at the [[Billy Keikeya|special assistant to the president]] and promptly developed a romantic relationship with him. Despite having never undertaken the years of formal military education of a colonial officer, she managed to maneuver herself to receive a commission and a vital posting as the [[executive officer]] of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', and to become become related by marriage to both the military and (later) civilian leadership of the Fleet. Her posting as ''Pegasus''{{'|s}} XO, despite her lack of seasoning and non-qualification as an aviator <ref>To the extent that BSG incorporates real-world naval concepts and traditions, an aircraft carrier's (i.e. a battlestar's) CO and XO would customarily be qualified aviators.</ref> while presumably mitigating the concerns about a junior having undue influence with the commander (her husband), also mirrors the placement of ''Galactica''{{'|s}} XOs: Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] is a Final Five Cylon and romantically involved with a Six, and Captain | At the time of the initial Cylon attack, she immediately threw herself at the [[Billy Keikeya|special assistant to the president]] and promptly developed a romantic relationship with him. Despite having never undertaken the years of formal military education of a colonial officer, she managed to maneuver herself to receive a commission and a vital posting as the [[executive officer]] of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', and to become become related by marriage to both the military and (later) civilian leadership of the Fleet. Her posting as ''Pegasus''{{'|s}} XO, despite her lack of seasoning and non-qualification as an aviator <ref>To the extent that BSG incorporates real-world naval concepts and traditions, an aircraft carrier's (i.e. a battlestar's) CO and XO would customarily be qualified aviators.</ref> while presumably mitigating the concerns about a junior having undue influence with the commander (her husband), also mirrors the placement of ''Galactica''{{'|s}} XOs: Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] is a Final Five Cylon and romantically involved with a Six, and Captain [[Karl Agathon]] is married to an Eight. | ||
She is the by far the most prominent "human" remaining who is not of substantially (real-world Earth) European ethnicity. Edward James Olmos wears blue contact lenses to portray Admiral Adama as non-Hispanic, and {{callsign|Hot Dog}} (portrayed by Olmos's son, [[Bodie Olmos]]) and [[Felix Gaeta]] (portrayed by Italian [[Alessandro Juliani]]) are very ''blanco'' Hispanics if not European. All other prominent non-European characters are either dead or Cylons: East Indian [[Rekha Sharma]] as Cylon [[Tory Foster]], African [[Rick Worthy]] as Cylon [[Number Four]] / [[Simon]], Korean [[Grace Park]] as Cylon [[Number Eight|Number Eight / Sharons]], African [[Lorena Gale]] as the late [[Elosha]], and Eurasian [[Lily Duong-Walton]] & [[Alexandra Thomas]] as the half-Cylon [[Hera Agathon]]. In this day and age, it seems unlikely that the writers would make ''all'' of the prominent "ethnics" who are allowed to live be Cylons. | She is the by far the most prominent "human" remaining who is not of substantially (real-world Earth) European ethnicity. Edward James Olmos wears blue contact lenses to portray Admiral Adama as non-Hispanic, and {{callsign|Hot Dog}} (portrayed by Olmos's son, [[Bodie Olmos]]) and [[Felix Gaeta]] (portrayed by Italian [[Alessandro Juliani]]) are very ''blanco'' Hispanics if not European. All other prominent non-European characters are either dead or Cylons: East Indian [[Rekha Sharma]] as Cylon [[Tory Foster]], African [[Rick Worthy]] as Cylon [[Number Four]] / [[Simon]], Korean [[Grace Park]] as Cylon [[Number Eight|Number Eight / Sharons]], African [[Lorena Gale]] as the late [[Elosha]], and Eurasian [[Lily Duong-Walton]] & [[Alexandra Thomas]] as the half-Cylon [[Hera Agathon]]. In this day and age, it seems unlikely that the writers would make ''all'' of the prominent "ethnics" who are allowed to live be Cylons. | ||