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| : ''During a seemingly hopeless [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula|battle]], {{callsign|Starbuck}} appears in a pristine [[Viper Mark II|Viper]], claiming that she has been to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] and can lead the [[The Fleet (RDM)|fleet]] there—but the terminal [[Laura Roslin]] believes otherwise. Meanwhile, four of the so-called [[Final Five]] are forced to tackle the repercussions of their newfound nature, while [[Gaius Baltar]] discovers he has a [[Cult of Baltar|commune of nubile female cultists]] who believe him to be an agent of the "one true [[God (RDM)|God]]."'' | | : ''During a seemingly hopeless [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula|battle]], [[Kara Thrace]] appears in a pristine [[Viper Mark II|Viper]], claiming that she has been to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] and can lead the [[The Fleet (RDM)|fleet]] there—but the terminal [[Laura Roslin]] believes otherwise. Meanwhile, four of the so-called [[Final Five]] are forced to tackle the repercussions of their newfound nature, while [[Gaius Baltar]] discovers he has a [[Cult of Baltar|commune of nubile female cultists]] who believe him to be an agent of the "one true [[God (RDM)|God]]."'' |
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| : '''''Note''': This is part one of a two-part episode. See the episode "[[Six of One]]" for the conclusion.'' | | : '''''Note''': This is part one of a two-part episode. See the episode "[[Six of One]]" for the conclusion.'' |
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| * {{callsign|Lee Adama}} and {{callsign|Starbuck}} are flying side by side, staring at each other across space. Lee is in a state of disbelief. Thrace rebukes his claim that her [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] [[Maelstrom#Act 4|exploded]]. She says that she's found Earth and describes some of its attributes, as the [[CIC]] crew listen to the chatter. | | * {{callsign|Lee Adama}} and [[Kara Thrace]] are flying side by side, staring at each other across space. Lee is in a state of disbelief. Thrace rebukes his claim that her [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] [[Maelstrom#Act 4|exploded]]. She says that she's found Earth and describes some of its attributes, as the [[CIC]] crew listen to the chatter. |
| * [[William Adama]], who is clearly emotional, demands that the ship be identified. [[Felix Gaeta]] does so, replying that the ship's recognition codes match, while [[Anastasia Dualla]] tries to raise Lee on the wireless. {{callsign|Karl Agathon}} notes that the woman's voice sounds like Thrace's. [[Laura Roslin]], recovered from her [[Crossroads, Part II|earlier headache]], states that it is likely a [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] trick. Adama orders that the verification be duplicated; however, Gaeta suddenly reports that more than 200 Cylon [[Raider (RDM)|raiders]] are inbound. Adama orders that the Vipers and Raptor pickets engage the Cylons. | | * [[William Adama]], who is clearly emotional, demands that the ship be identified. [[Felix Gaeta]] does so, replying that the ship's recognition codes match, while [[Anastasia Dualla]] tries to raise Lee on the wireless. {{callsign|Karl Agathon}} notes that the woman's voice sounds like Thrace's. [[Laura Roslin]], recovered from her [[Crossroads, Part II|earlier headache]], states that it is likely a [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] trick. Adama orders that the verification be duplicated; however, Gaeta suddenly reports that more than 200 Cylon [[Raider (RDM)|raiders]] are inbound. Adama orders that the Vipers and Raptor pickets engage the Cylons. |
| * Hearing the order, Thrace tells Lee not to lose her this time. "Not a chance," he replies, as both begin engaging the first wave of raiders. Thrace blows the head off one raider, splattering its blood over her Viper. | | * Hearing the order, Thrace tells Lee not to lose her this time. "Not a chance," he replies, as both begin engaging the first wave of raiders. Thrace blows the head off one raider, splattering its blood over her Viper. |
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| *In the [[memorial hallway]], Thrace notes to Anders that no one has removed her picture from the wall. Anders tells her to cut Adama and everyone some slack, since they are trying to figure out what happened to her. She tells Anders that she figured her experience of finding Earth was a dream. She begins theorizing about the logistics of her return aloud, speculating that the Cylons may have pulled her out of the soup and brainwashed her, or managed to clone her from parts that were extracted from her during her time in the Cylon baby [[farms]]. Anders disputes this, saying that if she were a Cylon, she's been one from the beginning. He professes his undying love for her, even if she may be a Cylon. She replies that he's more forgiving than she'd ever be, in that if Anders were a Cylon, she'd kill him. The ship jumps again and Thrace experiences another headache. She insists that the fleet's going the wrong way. She claims that if she goes through one more jump, she'll lose the way. Anders offers her a bunk, but Thrace begins to believe that the only way to stop going the wrong way is to deal with Roslin. She incapacitates [[Brandy Harder|Harder]], then Anders knocks [[Allan Nowart]]'s gun aside before he can fire it. Thrace incapacitates Nowart as well. Anders asks what the hell she's doing. She asks where Roslin is, but Anders refuses to answer, so she knocks him out. Thrace takes out the marines guarding Adama's quarters, using a stun grenade.<ref>Also known as a "flash bang"; see the [[w:Grenade#Stun grenades|Wikipedia article about it]]</ref> Roslin, who is sleeping in Adama's bunk, awakens to find Thrace approaching her. As Roslin stands, Thrace aims a gun at her head. | | *In the [[memorial hallway]], Thrace notes to Anders that no one has removed her picture from the wall. Anders tells her to cut Adama and everyone some slack, since they are trying to figure out what happened to her. She tells Anders that she figured her experience of finding Earth was a dream. She begins theorizing about the logistics of her return aloud, speculating that the Cylons may have pulled her out of the soup and brainwashed her, or managed to clone her from parts that were extracted from her during her time in the Cylon baby [[farms]]. Anders disputes this, saying that if she were a Cylon, she's been one from the beginning. He professes his undying love for her, even if she may be a Cylon. She replies that he's more forgiving than she'd ever be, in that if Anders were a Cylon, she'd kill him. The ship jumps again and Thrace experiences another headache. She insists that the fleet's going the wrong way. She claims that if she goes through one more jump, she'll lose the way. Anders offers her a bunk, but Thrace begins to believe that the only way to stop going the wrong way is to deal with Roslin. She incapacitates [[Brandy Harder|Harder]], then Anders knocks [[Allan Nowart]]'s gun aside before he can fire it. Thrace incapacitates Nowart as well. Anders asks what the hell she's doing. She asks where Roslin is, but Anders refuses to answer, so she knocks him out. Thrace takes out the marines guarding Adama's quarters, using a stun grenade.<ref>Also known as a "flash bang"; see the [[w:Grenade#Stun grenades|Wikipedia article about it]]</ref> Roslin, who is sleeping in Adama's bunk, awakens to find Thrace approaching her. As Roslin stands, Thrace aims a gun at her head. |
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| Co-executive producer [[Mark Verheiden]] participated in a comprehensive interview with ComicMix following the episode's premiere, providing production insights and answering fan questions about "He That Believeth in Me." When asked about the most important takeaway from the episode, Verheiden emphasized that "Starbuck's back and she believes in her heart of hearts that she knows the way to Earth. What does that mean to the people who love her and to the fleet?"<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_starbuck_return_earth_central_story">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=Starbuck%E2%80%99s%20back%20and%20she%20believes%20in%20her%20heart%20of%20hearts%20that%20she%20knows%20the%20way%20to%20Earth|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| Discussing his favorite elements of the episode, Verheiden specifically praised [[Katee Sackhoff]]'s performance and called the opening battle sequence "amazing." He noted that one particular moment gave him "a little chill" - the red light from the raider scanning Anders' eyeball.<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_favorite_moments_sackhoff_raider_scan">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=That%27s%20a%20little%20like%20picking%20your%20favorite%20child%2C%20but%20I%20thought%20Katee%20%5BSackhoff%5D%20(Starbuck)%20was%20especially%20great%20in%20this%20episode.%20And%20the%20opening%20battle%20was%20amazing.%20If%20there%27s%20a%20single%20moment%20that%20I%20really%20like%20in%20that%20%E2%80%9Cgave%20me%20a%20little%20chill%E2%80%9D%20way%2C%20it%27s%20the%20red%20light%20from%20the%20raider%20scanning%20Anders%27%20eyeball|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| Addressing the season's stakes, Verheiden confirmed that "no one in the cast is safe this season. And that means ''no one''."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_cast_safety_stakes_warning">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=No%20spoilers%2C%20my%20friends%2C%20though%20I%20think%20a%20number%20of%20informed%20sources%20have%20noted%20that%20no%20one%20in%20the%20cast%20is%20safe%20this%20season.%20And%20that%20means%20no%20one|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| When questioned about why the Cylons broke off their attack after the raider scanned Anders, Verheiden declined to provide spoilers but indicated that viewers should "keep watching," adding that "some of that will be clarified in the next episode."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_cylon_withdrawal_mystery_clarification">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=Keep%20watching.%20Some%20of%20that%20will%20be%20clarified%20in%20the%20next%20episode|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| Regarding [[Caprica-Six]]'s ability to sense the [[Final Five]] while [[Sharon Agathon]] seemingly cannot, Verheiden explained that "it's important to look back at where we've been; remember that Anders, Tigh, Tory and Tyrol only realized they were Cylons when they reached the area of space seen at the end of 'Crossroads, Part 2.'" He added that regarding "the hows and whys of each character, again, keep watching."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_final_five_activation_location_ionian_nebula">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=It%27s%20important%20to%20look%20back%20at%20where%20we%27ve%20been%3B%20remember%20that%20Anders%2C%20Tigh%2C%20Tory%20and%20Tyrol%20only%20realized%20they%20were%20Cylons%20when%20they%20reached%20the%20area%20of%20space%20seen%20at%20the%20end%20of%20%E2%80%9CCrossroads%2C%20Part%202|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| Addressing [[Gaius Baltar]]'s followers, Verheiden reminded viewers of the political context: "Aside from Baltar being the luckiest man in the universe? People forget that Gaius was President of the Colonies for awhile, duly elected over Roslin. There was clearly a groundswell of support for him then, and there's no reason all those supporters would have abandoned him overnight."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_baltar_followers_presidential_support_base">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=Aside%20from%20Baltar%20being%20the%20luckiest%20man%20in%20the%20universe%3F%20People%20forget%20that%20Gaius%20was%20President%20of%20the%20Colonies%20for%20awhile%2C%20duly%20elected%20over%20Roslin.%20There%20was%20clearly%20a%20groundswell%20of%20support%20for%20him%20then%2C%20and%20there%27s%20no%20reason%20all%20those%20supporters%20would%20have%20abandoned%20him%20overnight|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| When asked about the apparent shift in the relationship between [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Kara Thrace]], Verheiden explained that "Roslin is understandably suspicious of anyone who 'comes back from the dead' without a particularly good explanation, given the Cylon ability to download. As she says in the episode, Laura's afraid Kara's return may be some sort of Cylon trick. That would definitely put your guard up."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_roslin_starbuck_suspicion_download_concern">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=Roslin%20is%20understandably%20suspicious%20of%20anyone%20who%20%E2%80%9Ccomes%20back%20from%20the%20dead%E2%80%9D%20without%20a%20particularly%20good%20explanation%2C%20given%20the%20Cylon%20ability%20to%20download.%20As%20she%20says%20in%20the%20episode%2C%20Laura%27s%20afraid%20Kara%27s%20return%20may%20be%20some%20sort%20of%20Cylon%20trick|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| Regarding the reconciliation between [[William Adama|Admiral Adama]] and [[Lee Adama]], Verheiden noted: "They certainly had it out at the end of Season Three, but given that Adama voted to spare Baltar on the strength of Lee's argument, he must have decided his son had a point. But aside from all that, Lee is his son. They fight, and then they get over it — that's the way families go sometimes."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_adama_lee_reconciliation_family_dynamics">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=They%20certainly%20had%20it%20out%20at%20the%20end%20of%20Season%20Three%2C%20but%20given%20that%20Adama%20voted%20to%20spare%20Baltar%20on%20the%20strength%20of%20Lee%27s%20argument%2C%20he%20must%20have%20decided%20his%20son%20had%20a%20point.%20But%20aside%20from%20all%20that%2C%20Lee%20is%20his%20son.%20They%20fight%2C%20and%20then%20they%20get%20over%20it%20%E2%80%94%20that%27s%20the%20way%20families%20go%20sometimes|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| On the question of Roslin staying in Adama's quarters, Verheiden clarified: "Laura's using Adama's quarters while she's getting treatment for her cancer. Obviously Adama and Laura are friendly, but I wouldn't read anything else into it."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_roslin_adama_quarters_cancer_treatment">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=Laura%27s%20using%20Adama%27s%20quarters%20while%20she%27s%20getting%20treatment%20for%20her%20cancer.%20Obviously%20Adama%20and%20Laura%20are%20friendly%2C%20but%20I%20wouldn%27t%20read%20anything%20else%20into%20it|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| Verheiden also discussed [[Jane Espenson]]'s involvement in the series, confirming that she "wrote two freelance episodes in Season Three and came on as a co-executive producer for Season Four."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_jane_espenson_staff_promotion">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=Jane%20wrote%20two%20freelance%20episodes%20in%20Season%20Three%20and%20came%20on%20as%20a%20co%2Dexecutive%20producer%20for%20Season%20Four|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| When questioned about the symbolism of [[Saul Tigh]]'s hallucination where he shoots [[William Adama]] in the right eye (the same eye Tigh lost), Verheiden relayed a cryptic response from co-writer [[David Weddle]]: "I was waiting for someone to pick up on that telling detail. Congratulations. But I am disappointed you have not figured out its significance within the larger mythology of the show. It's all laid out for you. All you have to do is run the episode over again in slow motion, and the deeper truth will be revealed."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_weddle_tigh_hallucination_eye_symbolism">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=I%20was%20waiting%20for%20someone%20to%20pick%20up%20on%20that%20telling%20detail.%20Congratulations.%20But%20I%20am%20disappointed%20you%20have%20not%20figured%20out%20its%20significance%20within%20the%20larger%20mythology%20of%20the%20show.%20It%27s%20all%20laid%20out%20for%20you.%20All%20you%20have%20to%20do%20is%20run%20the%20episode%20over%20again%20in%20slow%20motion%2C%20and%20the%20deeper%20truth%20will%20be%20revealed|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| Addressing [[Cally Tyrol]]'s absence from the episode, Verheiden noted that "We saw Cally on the hanger deck getting the Vipers ready to launch back at the end of Season Three… she's just busy."<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_cally_absence_busy_hangar_deck">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=We%20saw%20Cally%20on%20the%20hanger%20deck%20getting%20the%20Vipers%20ready%20to%20launch%20back%20at%20the%20end%20of%20Season%20Three%E2%80%A6%20she%27s%20just%20busy|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref> When the interviewer noted that with [[Galen Tyrol]] revealed as a Cylon, there appear to be two human/Cylon babies rather than just one, Verheiden responded enigmatically: "As far as there being two Cylon babies… isn't that interesting?"<ref group="commentary" name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_two_cylon_babies_interesting_implication">{{cite_web|url=https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/#:~:text=As%20far%20as%20there%20being%20two%20Cylon%20babies%E2%80%A6%20isn%27t%20that%20interesting%3F|title=Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets|author=Chris Ullrich|publisher=ComicMix|date=8 April 2008|accessdate=16 February 2026}}</ref>
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| [[File:TRS - He That Believeth in Me - Adama's Right Eye.jpg|thumb|In [[Saul Tigh]]'s waking hallucination, Tigh shoots [[William Adama]] through his right eye.]]
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| * Sharon Agathon and Caprica-Six are incapable of identifying the Final Five models, even after they've been "activated," to use the term loosely. | | * Sharon Agathon and Caprica-Six are incapable of identifying the Final Five models, even after they've been "activated," to use the term loosely. |
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| * There is no indication that Anders's inability to fire on the Cylon raider is because of any technical problem with the Viper. His safeties remain engaged during the battle; later, [[Margaret Edmondson]] and Tigh chalk this up to a "dumb [[nugget]] mistake" while Anders suspects it is subconscious Cylon programming. | | * There is no indication that Anders's inability to fire on the Cylon raider is because of any technical problem with the Viper. His safeties remain engaged during the battle; later, [[Margaret Edmondson]] and Tigh chalk this up to a "dumb [[nugget]] mistake" while Anders suspects it is subconscious Cylon programming. |
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| * The episode shares many concepts with the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}}, particularly the mythology laid down in the original series's two-parter "[[War of the Gods]]". In that episode, it was revealed that there are greater forces at work in the universe: Count [[Iblis]], who is insinuated to have started the [[Thousand Yahren War]] that resulted in the [[Battle of Cimtar|Colonies' destruction]], and the "forces of good," the [[Beings of Light]] whom {{TOS|Adama}} describes as being "guardians of the universe." | | * The episode shares many concepts with the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}}, particularly the mythology laid down in the original series's two-parter "[[War of the Gods]]". In that episode, it was revealed that there are greater forces at work in the universe: Count [[Iblis]], who is insinuated to have started the [[Thousand Yahren War]] that resulted in the [[Battle of Cimtar|Colonies' destruction]], and the "forces of good," the [[Beings of Light]] whom {{TOS|Adama}} describes as being "guardians of the universe." |
| ** Essentially, in "[[War of the Gods, Part II]]," {{TOS|Apollo}} is killed by a bolt that Iblis meant for [[Sheba]]. After the encounter, Iblis is captured by the Beings of Light, as are Starbuck and Sheba, who leave the [[red planet]] with Apollo's cadaver in their [[Colonial shuttle|shuttle]]. Much like {{callsign|Starbuck}}, Apollo comes back from the dead. While Thrace's resurrection has not yet been explained—this being one of the mysteries that drives the current season—Apollo is restored by the Beings of Light. | | ** Essentially, in "[[War of the Gods, Part II]]," {{TOS|Apollo}} is killed by a bolt that Iblis meant for [[Sheba]]. After the encounter, Iblis is captured by the Beings of Light, as are Starbuck and Sheba, who leave the [[red planet]] with Apollo's cadaver in their [[Colonial shuttle|shuttle]]. Much like [[Kara Thrace]], Apollo comes back from the dead. While Thrace's resurrection has not yet been explained—this being one of the mysteries that drives the current season—Apollo is restored by the Beings of Light. |
| ** Further, like Thrace, the three warriors of the original series experience lost time, memory loss, and feelings of theophany. Additionally, they are given the coordinates to [[Earth (TOS)|Earth]], which are buried in their subconscious, only to be awakened by a suggestion Adama makes to them. On the other hand, Kara Thrace is given (allegedly) a feeling of extra-sensory perception, being able to "feel" her way to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. | | ** Further, like Thrace, the three warriors of the original series experience lost time, memory loss, and feelings of theophany. Additionally, they are given the coordinates to [[Earth (TOS)|Earth]], which are buried in their subconscious, only to be awakened by a suggestion Adama makes to them. On the other hand, Kara Thrace is given (allegedly) a feeling of extra-sensory perception, being able to "feel" her way to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. |
| * It should also be noted that the Beings of Light in the original series are capable of moving ships to different locations. In "[[Experiment in Terra]]," this is done to Apollo's ship as they move him well ahead of a patrol from ''{{TOS|Galactica}}''. Blackouts and memory loss (such as those apparently exhibited by Thrace) were also demonstrated in the abduction and subsequent encounters with the Beings of Light. | | * It should also be noted that the Beings of Light in the original series are capable of moving ships to different locations. In "[[Experiment in Terra]]," this is done to Apollo's ship as they move him well ahead of a patrol from ''{{TOS|Galactica}}''. Blackouts and memory loss (such as those apparently exhibited by Thrace) were also demonstrated in the abduction and subsequent encounters with the Beings of Light. |
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| * ''Information from [[Ron Moore]]'s [[Podcast:He That Believeth In Me|podcast]]:'' | | * ''Information from [[Ron Moore]]'s [[Podcast:He That Believeth In Me|podcast]]:'' |
| ** A scene was cut where either Anders himself or another crew member cuts the cast off his leg, thus partially explaining the absence of the leg injury he sustained at the end of Season 3. | | ** A scene was cut where either Anders himself or another crew member cuts the cast off his leg, thus partially explaining the absence of the leg injury he sustained at the end of Season 3. |
| ** Moore insisted that ''[[Zephyr]]'' (which he just calls "the ring ship") not be destroyed, but only damaged, because he likes it very much. | | ** Moore insisted that the ''[[Zephyr]]'' (which he just calls "the ring ship") not be destroyed, but only damaged, because he likes it very much. |
| ** The dry stowage rooms used by Baltar's cult are referred to as "Baltar's lair" by the writers. | | ** The rooms used by Baltar's cult are referred to as "Baltar's lair" by the writers. |
| ** Moore says that Thrace's pristine Viper will play an important role later in the season. | | ** Moore says that Thrace's pristine Viper will play an important role later in the season. |
| ** The writers are aware of Baltar's visual similarity to Jesus. While Moore admits that it helps to drive some things home, he points out that Baltar is not Jesus. | | ** The writers are aware of Baltar's visual similarity to Jesus. While Moore admits that it helps to drive some things home, he points out that Baltar is not Jesus. |
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| | context = [[Aaron Douglas]] (via [[w:Anthrax|Anthrax]]'s [[w:Scott Ian|Scott Ian]]) explains an ad-lib that was dropped from one of Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]'s scenes:
| | :"I had the best adlib ever in the scene where Chief walks onto the hangar deck yelling for the [[nugget]]s. It didn't make it into the show. What did make it was something like 'lets go nuggets! your momma's aren't going to save ya today' it is all adlib'd but one take I said, & this is pure gold, 'drop your dicks and grab your sticks!' 5 seconds later [[Harvey Frand|Harvey [Frand]]] (producer) says from video village, 'you can't say dicks on TV'. We had to do it again. Ha."<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://blogs.scifi.com/battlestar/scottian/2008/04/drop-your-dicks-and-grab-your.html|title=SCIFI.com - Scott Ian's Blog: Drop your dicks and grab your sticks!!|date=7 April 2008|accessdate=7 April 2008|last=Ian|first=Scott|format=|language=}}</ref> |
| | text = I had the best adlib ever in the scene where Chief walks onto the hangar deck yelling for the [[nugget]]s. It didn't make it into the show. What did make it was something like "lets go nuggets! your momma's aren't going to save ya today" it is all adlib'd but one take I said, & this is pure gold, "drop your dicks and grab your sticks!" 5 seconds later [[Harvey Frand|Harvey [Frand]]] (producer) says from video village, "you can't say dicks on TV". We had to do it again. Ha.
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| | text = I was waiting for someone to pick up on that telling detail. Congratulations. But I am disappointed you have not figured out its significance within the larger mythology of the show. It's all laid out for you. All you have to do is run the episode over again in slow motion, and the deeper truth will be revealed. | |
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| | source = <ref name="ullrich_comicmix_verheiden_weddle_tigh_eye_symbolism" group="commentary">{{cite web | url = https://comicmix.com/2008/04/08/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-babies-and-season-four-secrets/ | title = Battlestar Galactica Interview: Mark Verheiden on Cylon Babies and Season Four Secrets | author = Chris Ullrich | publisher = ComicMix | date = 2008-04-08 | accessdate = 2026-02-16 }}</ref>
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| | * ''[[Saul Tigh]] experiences a disturbing daydream:'' |
| | context = [[Saul Tigh]] experiences a disturbing daydream:
| | : '''[[William Adama]]:''' Saul. Saul! What the hell is wrong with you? |
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| | : '''Saul Tigh:''' Nothing, Bill. (Tigh pulls out a gun and aims it at Adama.) I've never felt better in my entire life. (Tigh shoots Adama through his right eye.) |
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| | : '''Galen Tyrol:''' Get that [[Showboat]] bird in the tube. Where the [[frak]] are these [[nugget]]s? '''C'mon! Momma's not gonna save ya today! Let's go!''' You want to fly or not? |
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| | context = [[Galen Tyrol]] barks out orders on the hangar deck:
| | : '''Virtual Six:''' Yesterday you were facing execution. Today, you're free. Why the long face? |
| | text = Get that [[Showboat]] bird in the tube. Where the [[frak]] are these [[nugget]]s? '''C'mon! Momma's not gonna save ya today! Let's go!''' You want to fly or not?
| | : '''Baltar:''' Oh, gee, I don't know. From President of the Colonies to this . . . king of fools. Probably best to be hated by everyone than loved by this lot, doomed to live out the rest of my life in this looney bin. I don't know, that might have something to do with my rather savage mood swings. |
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| | : '''Virtual Six:''' Relax Gaius. Do you think I've brought you this far to let it end here? |
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| | : '''Baltar:''' I need encouragement. A ray of hope about the future. An inkling. |
| | : '''Virtual Six:''' You've got me. I'm here for you. |
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| | context = [[Virtual Six]] talks to [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]]:
| | : '''Lee Adama:''' Dad, what if [[Zak Adama|Zak]] had come back to us in that Viper? If my brother had climbed out of that cockpit, would it matter if he were a Cylon? If he always had been? When all's said and done, would that really change how we feel about him? |
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| | | : '''Gaius Baltar:''' Please God, I'm asking you this one last time, don't let this child die. Has he sinned against you? He can't have sinned against you. He's not even had a life yet. How can you take him and let me live . . . after all I've done? Really, if you want someone to suffer, take me. We both know I deserve it. I'm selfish and weak. I have failed so many people. I have killed. I'm not asking for your forgiveness, I'm just asking that you spare the life of this innocent child. Don't take him. Take me. Take me, take me, please. |
| '''Virtual Six:''' Relax Gaius. Do you think I've brought you this far to let it end here?
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