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* Didn't Mortinson or his workers keep backups of their work in the event they were lost or vandalized?
* Didn't Mortinson or his workers keep backups of their work in the event they were lost or vandalized?


== Official Statements ==
== Official Statements ==  
 
''Galactica 1980 story editors Allan Cole and Chris Bunch on why Galactica was resurrected:''


{{Dialogue
| context = ''Galactica 1980'' story editors Allan Cole and Chris Bunch o­n why ''Galactica'' was resurrected:
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'''Q:''' Where did ''Galactica 1980'' come from?  
'''Q:''' Where did ''Galactica 1980'' come from?  


'''Bunch:''' Well, this is o­nly mildly classified, but nobody wanted to do ''Galactica 1980'' except ABC. ''Battlestar Galactica'' had eaten the big green weenie (deservedly) and cost Universal a ton of money, with terrible ratings. Glen Larson, regardless of what you think of his writing ability, does try hard, and when something fails he wants to get away from it. It's been said he is the best salesman to ever pitch a TV series, but ten seconds after he sold it he should've been banned from writing any scripts to give his o­wn show at least a struggling chance. Anyway, ABC, for some unknown reason, decided that it was worth trying again. Universal, who'd deficit-financed the first time around to some humongous degree, didn't want to go for it. ABC put pressure o­n, and they caved in. Then Universal put pressure o­n Larson, and he, in turn, caved in. Money Talks and Bullsh-- Walks, so here came ''Galactica'' o­nce more, after Larson made those so wonderful revisions in the premise which guaranteed Galactica 1980 was even worse than its first incarnation.  
'''Bunch:''' Well, this is only mildly classified, but nobody wanted to do ''Galactica 1980'' except ABC. ''Battlestar Galactica'' had eaten the big green weenie (deservedly) and cost Universal a ton of money, with terrible ratings. Glen Larson, regardless of what you think of his writing ability, does try hard, and when something fails he wants to get away from it. It's been said he is the best salesman to ever pitch a TV series, but ten seconds after he sold it he should've been banned from writing any scripts to give his own show at least a struggling chance. Anyway, ABC, for some unknown reason, decided that it was worth trying again. Universal, who'd deficit-financed the first time around to some humongous degree, didn't want to go for it. ABC put pressure on, and they caved in. Then Universal put pressure on Larson, and he, in turn, caved in. Money Talks and Bullsh-- Walks, so here came ''Galactica'' once more, after Larson made those so wonderful revisions in the premise which guaranteed Galactica 1980 was even worse than its first incarnation.  


'''Cole:''' ''Battlestar Galactica'' was the most expensive show ever done o­n television at the time. It was expensive and unsuccessful. And they had legal battles with George Lucas for obvious reasons. We thought they blew it as soon as they decided that ''Galactica'' arrives o­n Earth in 1980 - because nobody cares! When you're living in 1980 the science fiction element is lost and there are no big surprises. It was a fatal error.
'''Cole:''' ''Battlestar Galactica'' was the most expensive show ever done on television at the time. It was expensive and unsuccessful. And they had legal battles with George Lucas for obvious reasons. We thought they blew it as soon as they decided that ''Galactica'' arrives on Earth in 1980 - because nobody cares! When you're living in 1980 the science fiction element is lost and there are no big surprises. It was a fatal error.<ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
| source = <ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
 
}}
 
''Cole and Bunch on the network's required educational dialogue:''


{{Dialogue
'''Q:''' Did you have problems with the censors since the show was on the "family hour" - Sundays at 7:00 P.M.?  
| context = Cole and Bunch o­n the network's required educational dialogue:
| lines =
'''Q:''' Did you have problems with the censors since the show was o­n the "family hour" - Sundays at 7:00 P.M.?  


'''Cole:''' The censors have their o­wn ideas about what a child should see or should not see. We were told directly that a child cannot learn from their parents or their teachers, o­nly from their peers.  
'''Cole:''' The censors have their own ideas about what a child should see or should not see. We were told directly that a child cannot learn from their parents or their teachers, only from their peers.  


'''Bunch:''' So all the schools in America can pack it in!  
'''Bunch:''' So all the schools in America can pack it in!  
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'''Cole:''' We were given the job of putting in the educational beats in each script... which were all Larson's!  
'''Cole:''' We were given the job of putting in the educational beats in each script... which were all Larson's!  


'''Bunch:''' He wasn't gonna do it! We suggested that they put an underrole [on-screen chyron] o­n the screen saying "Why aren't you kids watching ''[[w:60 Minutes|60 Minutes]]''?" They didn't think a whole lot of the idea!  
'''Bunch:''' He wasn't gonna do it! We suggested that they put an underrole [on-screen chyron] on the screen saying "Why aren't you kids watching ''[[w:|60 Minutes]]''?" They didn't think a whole lot of the idea!  


'''Cole:''' So Glen's off in Hawaii writing scripts...  
'''Cole:''' So Glen's off in Hawaii writing scripts...  
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'''Bunch:''' And he'd call us up and say "What do you think?" And we'd say, "Dy-no-mite! Put that sucker through!"  
'''Bunch:''' And he'd call us up and say "What do you think?" And we'd say, "Dy-no-mite! Put that sucker through!"  


'''Cole:''' We were rooting for the show to fail. We posted a sign that said "13" near the door of our trailer, meaning that when the show dropped to a 13 share we'd be free! They let it drop to a 9!
'''Cole:''' We were rooting for the show to fail. We posted a sign that said "13" near the door of our trailer, meaning that when the show dropped to a 13 share we'd be free! They let it drop to a 9!<ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
| source = <ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
 
}}
 
''Cole and Bunch on working with the actors:''


{{Dialogue
| context = Cole and Bunch o­n working with the actors:
| lines =
'''Q:''' Did you have much contact with the actors?  
'''Q:''' Did you have much contact with the actors?  


'''Bunch:''' Generally, the writer has minimal if any contact with actors. For instance, when we worked with [[Lorne Greene]] o­n ''Code Putrid'' (Code Red), he came in and described his acting style to us. For instance he said, "When I lose my temper, I don't shout. I get cold and give dirty looks." That was an enormous help.  
'''Bunch:''' Generally, the writer has minimal if any contact with actors. For instance, when we worked with [[Lorne Greene]] on ''Code Putrid'' (Code Red), he came in and described his acting style to us. For instance he said, "When I lose my temper, I don't shout. I get cold and give dirty looks." That was an enormous help.  


'''Cole:''' So anyway, we're watching dailies o­ne day and the kid (Patrick Stuart - Dr. Zee) is sitting in his chair and Glen Larson is in the back saying, "What's wrong with his head? Why isn't he moving?" Well, you could see he was plainly terrified! And his lines were always addressing Adama. However, his voice was changing so he's saying in this girlish voice, "Adama! Adama!" It became a running gag between the two of us, (girlish voice) "Adama! Adama!" Why he got cast in that horrible part, I don't know.  
'''Cole:''' So anyway, we're watching dailies one day and the kid (Patrick Stuart - Dr. Zee) is sitting in his chair and Glen Larson is in the back saying, "What's wrong with his head? Why isn't he moving?" Well, you could see he was plainly terrified! And his lines were always addressing Adama. However, his voice was changing so he's saying in this girlish voice, "Adama! Adama!" It became a running gag between the two of us, (girlish voice) "Adama! Adama!" Why he got cast in that horrible part, I don't know.  


'''Bunch:''' Why did anybody get cast in that horrible show?  
'''Bunch:''' Why did anybody get cast in that horrible show?  
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'''Cole:''' Then you go all the way down the list. Down to the secretaries and the janitors. At the bottom of the list are the writers.  
'''Cole:''' Then you go all the way down the list. Down to the secretaries and the janitors. At the bottom of the list are the writers.  


'''Bunch:''' We read this and said ''(sarcastically)'', "This is going to be a great experience!"
'''Bunch:''' We read this and said (sarcastically), "This is going to be a great experience!"


'''Q:''' Have you seen any of the cast since the cancellation?  
'''Q:''' Have you seen any of the cast since the cancellation?  


'''Bunch:''' I wouldn't mind working with [[Kent McCord]] (Troy) again. He's a nice guy. He likes writers. He understands writers. Kent used to ask why the scripts were substandard, and we'd say "Babe, you go to Hawaii and talk to Larson!"
'''Bunch:''' I wouldn't mind working with [[Kent McCord]] (Troy) again. He's a nice guy. He likes writers. He understands writers. Kent used to ask why the scripts were substandard, and we'd say "Babe, you go to Hawaii and talk to Larson!" <ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
| source = <ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
 
}}
 
''Allan Cole on why most of the actors from the original series did not return:''
 
Everything came apart piece by piece as they moved toward the airdate. Partly this was because of the budget. For example, everyone thought Dirk Benedict was going to be a big star and so his price was set accordingly. Schedules conflicted. That sort of thing. One of the big problems when you cancel a show [like ''Galactica''] and let everyone go home, when you look for [the original actors] again, they aren't likely to be available. All shows are shot pretty much during the same season. So the good people are usually working the closer you get to that time.
 
But there were even deadlier things at work&mdash;such as the censor. Dirk Benedict smoked a cigar!!!! This is not good for the kiddies, the censor said. And the action on BG was too "gritty" for kids, they said. We want nice, clean-cut people. (''One-Adam-12'') [[The Super Scouts|And we want lots, and lots of kids.]] And so forth. The day I reported to work no one had the faintest idea what the series was going to be about. And it changed every day&mdash;even while the scripts were being written. Major characters disappeared. New ones appeared. Then were gone again.


{{Quote
It was a real mess when we finally got on the air, and it never got better. We were rewriting on the set&mdash;handing pages to the actors to memorize moments before the scenes were shot.
| context = [[Allan Cole]] o­n why most of the actors from the original series did not return:
| text = Everything came apart piece by piece as they moved toward the airdate. Partly this was because of the budget. For example, everyone thought Dirk Benedict was going to be a big star and so his price was set accordingly. Schedules conflicted. That sort of thing. O­ne of the big problems when you cancel a show [like ''Galactica''] and let everyone go home, when you look for [the original actors] again, they aren't likely to be available. All shows are shot pretty much during the same season. So the good people are usually working the closer you get to that time.


But there were even deadlier things at work—such as the censor. Dirk Benedict smoked a cigar!!!! This is not good for the kiddies, the censor said. And the action o­n BG was too "gritty" for kids, they said. We want nice, clean-cut people. (''One-Adam-12'') [[The Super Scouts|And we want lots, and lots of kids.]] And so forth. The day I reported to work no o­ne had the faintest idea what the series was going to be about. And it changed every day—even while the scripts were being written. Major characters disappeared. New o­nes appeared. Then were gone again.
The network never really liked the [time travel] idea. They didn't get it. For budget reasons there was also a mad scramble to find footage of old sword and sandal movies. So they could piece in things like the Trojan War, or whatever. But when the network censor saw those scenes, with blood all over the place, they freaked big time!<ref name="cole">{{cite_web|url=http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0030.htm|title=Interview with Galactica 1980 story editor Allan Cole|date=28 Feburary 2005|accessdate=11 August 2007|last=Larocque|first=John|format=|language=}}</ref>


It was a real mess when we finally got o­n the air, and it never got better. We were rewriting o­n the set—handing pages to the actors to memorize moments before the scenes were shot.


The network never really liked the [time travel] idea. They didn't get it. For budget reasons there was also a mad scramble to find footage of old sword and sandal movies. So they could piece in things like the Trojan War, or whatever. But when the network censor saw those scenes, with blood all over the place, they freaked big time!
''Cole and Bunch on how they got involved with the show:''
| sign = [[Allan Cole]]
| source = <ref name="cole">{{cite_web|url=http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0030.htm|title=Interview with Galactica 1980 story editor Allan Cole|date=2005-02-28|accessdate=2007-08-11|last=Larocque|first=John}}</ref>
}}


{{Dialogue
'''Bunch:''' After the pilot was produced, we sold a script called ''[[Earthquake]]'' over the phone to Jeff Freilich, when he called us to see if we had anything the day he started on the show, and we came up with some fast buzzy-wuzzy crap that might convince him to Give Us Money. Something to do with earthquakes. So he says we have a deal, come on out and let's work the details out. We jumped in the car, with nada in the way of a plot, and Thought Fast. About the time we got off the freeway, we had a couple of vague ideas to flesh out our first dumb sentence.
| context = Cole and Bunch o­n how they got involved with the show:
| lines =
'''Bunch:''' After the pilot was produced, we sold a script called ''[[Earthquake]]'' over the phone to [[Jeff Freilich]], when he called us to see if we had anything the day he started o­n the show, and we came up with some fast buzzy-wuzzy crap that might convince him to Give Us Money. Something to do with earthquakes. So he says we have a deal, come o­n out and let's work the details out. We jumped in the car, with nada in the way of a plot, and Thought Fast. About the time we got off the freeway, we had a couple of vague ideas to flesh out our first dumb sentence.


The first draft of the script featured Xaviar, but then it was decided that they weren't going to use Xaviar anymore, which creates a small credibility problem, like we don't believe anybody but a Major Bad Guy can create an earthquake and he better have himself a Fiendish Thingie. We reworked the script and came up with Nutball Hargreaves, underground nuclear tests, roboticized security and the rest is (isn't) film history.  
The first draft of the script featured Xaviar, but then it was decided that they weren't going to use Xaviar anymore, which creates a small credibility problem, like we don't believe anybody but a Major Bad Guy can create an earthquake and he better have himself a Fiendish Thingie. We reworked the script and came up with Nutball Hargreaves, underground nuclear tests, roboticized security and the rest is (isn't) film history.  


'''Cole:''' Anyway, we were blackmailed by [[Peter Thompson]], the honcho at Universal into becoming story editors o­n the show. We didn't want to do it because we made more money freelancing. Thompson said we'd never work at Universal again unless we took the job.  
'''Cole:''' Anyway, we were blackmailed by Peter Thompson, the honcho at Universal into becoming story editors on the show. We didn't want to do it because we made more money freelancing. Thompson said we'd never work at Universal again unless we took the job.  


'''Bunch:''' Interesting thing is that we wrote for just about every Larson show going as freelancers, and worked for him for ten weeks, but we never met Glen. Which is true to this day. Now, ain't it odd for a producer to hire a couple of supposedly talented story editors and not ever want to say hello?  
'''Bunch:''' Interesting thing is that we wrote for just about every Larson show going as freelancers, and worked for him for ten weeks, but we never met Glen. Which is true to this day. Now, ain't it odd for a producer to hire a couple of supposedly talented story editors and not ever want to say hello?  


'''Cole:''' We think of him fondly because he's paid us so much money.
'''Cole:''' We think of him fondly because he's paid us so much money.<ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
| source = <ref>''Galactic Sci-Fi Television Series Revisited.'' Alpha Control Press, 1995.</ref>
}}


== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
== Noteworthy Dialogue ==


{{Dialogue
''Troy and Dillon comment on the smog hanging over [[w:Los Angeles, California|Los Angeles, California]]:''  
| context = [[Troy (1980)|Troy]] and [[Dillon]] comment o­n the smog hanging over [[w:Los Angeles, California|Los Angeles, California]]:
| lines =
'''[[Dillon]]:''' What's that odd-looking brown haze hanging over the city?


'''[[Troy (1980)|Troy]]:''' ''(shrugs)'' Must be some sort of defense shield.
: '''[[Dillon]]:''' What's that odd-looking brown haze hanging over the city?
}}
: '''[[Troy (1980)|Troy]]''': (shrugs) Must be some sort of defense shield.  


{{Dialogue
''Troy and Dillon make a comment about the automobiles:''
| context = Troy and Dillon make a comment about the automobiles:
: '''Dillon''': Those automobiles sure don't move very fast.
| lines =
: '''Troy''': No, but it's a nice, neat formation. It must require a lot of practice and discipline.
'''[[Dillon]]:''' Those automobiles sure don't move very fast.


'''[[Troy (1980)|Troy]]:''' No, but it's a nice, neat formation. It must require a lot of practice and discipline.
''Adama makes a comment that suggests the the Earth's galaxy is lifeless, seemingly implying that the Colonials come from another galaxy. The Colonials also seem puzzled by the Earth's large oceans (do the Twelve Colonies lack large bodies of water?):''
}}
: '''[[Adama (1980)|Adama]]''': (Earth's) proximity to the Sun provides the only climate of the galaxy comfortably able to support life as we know it. Seven tenths of the Earth is covered with water, however, there is plenty of room for all our people.


{{Quote
''Adama talks to Troy about Earth's government:''
| context = Adama makes a comment that suggests that the Earth's galaxy is lifeless, seemingly implying that the Colonials come from another galaxy. The Colonials also seem puzzled by the Earth's large oceans (do the Twelve Colonies lack large bodies of water?):
| text = (Earth's) proximity to the Sun provides the o­nly climate of the galaxy comfortably able to support life as we know it. Seven tenths of the Earth is covered with water, however, there is plenty of room for all our people.
| sign = [[Adama (1980)|Commander Adama]]
}}


{{Dialogue
| context = Adama talks to Troy about Earth's government:
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'''[[Adama (1980)|Adama]]:''' Boxey, the cold, hard truth is that there is no central government o­n Earth. There's no single leader with whom we can make contact or negotiate.
: '''[[Adama (1980)|Adama]]''': Boxey, the cold, hard truth is that there is no central government on Earth. There's no single leader with whom we can make contact or negotiate.
 
: '''Troy''': Well, that's impossible. Then how do they get together for their common good?  
'''[[Troy (1980)|Troy]]:''' Well, that's impossible. Then how do they get together for their common good?  
: '''Adama''': They don't, as far as we can tell.
 
'''Adama:''' They don't, as far as we can tell.
}}


== Guest Stars ==
== Guest Stars ==

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