Editing Battlestar Wiki talk:Think Tank/New User Survey

This is a nice idea. Can you mock up a prototype on your proposal page? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:57, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
:? [[BW:NEW]]? Can't give [[BW:TANK|any implmentations]], Sorry. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:04, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
::Maybe you could list some of the questions you had in mind? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:17, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
:::My questions are not the question of subject of the proposel. I am looking for project approval. The questions can be hashed out inside the '[[BW:TANK|approced project]]'. Since the project is not approved, I can not give my questions which would be on the project page. Plus when I orginal created the page, I could not think of any questions. That is why they are TBD. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:28, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
::::I'd really like to see this idea more fleshed out before we approve it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:41, 10 July 2006 (CDT)

== Questions ==

# How did you get to this ''Wiki''? (If it was a Search engine, which one and what were the terms.)
# How long did it take you to get to this [[BW:NEW|Survey]]?
# What was your main reason for regestring on this ''Wiki''? (Full Time Contributer, [[BW:PROJ|Project Idea]], or Minor Edit. Why?)
# Was the [[Main Page|main page]] content usefull when you first came to the site? ([[Main Page|Have you visited it yet?]])
# What, if any, feature has striken you has amazing so far?

== Questions Reasons ==
Question 1: Simply put, this is how we are with visability on the web.

Question 2: See if people are reading the "Welcome" message when we first send them a message.

Question 3: Why did they sign up in the first place...

Question 4: See if the [[BW:MAIN]] page needs fixing or if the content needs to be updated more offten

Question 5: See if anything caught their interest. '''Project Visiability'''

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These questions gives users no idea in what they are answering so they answer better when it's more genearl than specific, unless we are looking for something. (i.e. Question #1) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 01:06, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
:To be frank, I don't know what the preceding comment means or is intended to mean. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 04:18, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

== Question Thoughts ==
How about missing features or navigation issues? (Get a little constructive criticism maybe?) Would a link to this survey be sent in a link upon registration? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:41, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
:At first I would only link it from the {{tl|welcome}} template to see if anyone runs with the idea. See if people are notcing their user pages in the first place. After we see that people are getting the link from the "Welcome", we could move it around. The idea is to have goal from different locations os we can see how the different resources are being used. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:44, 11 July 2006 (CDT)

== New User Outreach ==
Overall, I think the concept of new user outreach cannot be emphasized enough. The wiki is too big for any one person (or small group of people) to manage, and the more contributors we have, the better. I know one of the things that helped me stick around was the note that Spencerian left (which I didn't even realize until later was likely copy and pasted). On a similar vein, I'd like to see us explore programs to reach out to the non-editors as well, although that is likely a topic for a different tank (I think). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:54, 11 July 2006 (CDT)

== Thoughts ==
Any thoughts on this now that some suggested ?'s have been put out? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:19, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

: I'm a bit tired right now, so I don't trust myself to think analytically about this, but I do wonder what the intended method is for reporting and gathering this information? Would we hunt down some free survey site and set ours up with publicly viewable results, or... What? --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]] - [http://hiver.swordofthestars.com/ SotS])</sup> 00:08, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

:: It all be stored under [[BW:NEW]]. After a while we just archive the survey's. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:10, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

::: Why is that not a redlink? I imagine that I may have honestly missed something, but I thought this whole idea was still under debate. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]] - [http://hiver.swordofthestars.com/ SotS])</sup> 00:24, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

::::Created before tank came along. Check the history. I been allowed to create examples without full right implementation. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 01:07, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

::: Back onto the topic of technical details, is it intended that a new user be familiar enough with Wikicode to edit a page with survey answers correctly and without deleting something they oughtn't? Will the answers be multiple choice? If not, who will be in charge or interpreting the long answers into something that can be statistically meaningful? How will we deal with multiple new users anwering the same set of questions between archiving events? How much instruction is it reasonable to expect a new user to wade through regarding how to edit, what to edit, where to answer, etc. before actualing doing the answering? Not ''all'' of these need to be answered before work begins on this, but many do and all need to be addressed in some manner, at least. I await the input of others. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]] - [http://hiver.swordofthestars.com/ SotS])</sup> 02:15, 19 July 2006 (CDT)

== Vote ==

To end 6 days from now. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:57, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{neutral}} We need to definitely refine this more. 
# [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{oppose}} I oppose this plan in its current form, but I feel the idea is well worth revisiting in a refined form. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 17:00, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:Day|Day]] - {{oppose}} I must oppose this project on the basis that I do not feel it is clearly enough defined. I like the general idea, but don't feel my above question about how it would work, in a technical sense, has been answered well enough. I have six days to change my vote, or rather, there remain six days to explain this to me to my satisfaction. (see above) --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]] - [http://hiver.swordofthestars.com/ SotS])</sup> 02:10, 19 July 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] -
# [[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] - {{oppose}} I agree with Day. The idea is inoffensive, but uncompelling, and the amount of work entailed would be considerable. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:54, 20 July 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] -
# [[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] - {{Neutral}} I think this is the seed of a great idea. We just need more input/collaboration (from everybody, not just the "proposer") to get this one rolling. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:00, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Note: All users are welcome to partake in the voting as well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]

# {{support}} --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:51, 24 July 2006 (CDT)