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| Basically, I am in full agreement that Battlestar Wiki should avoid fanwanking -- which is just another manifestation of [[w:fanon|fanon]]'s ugly head anyway and Battlestar Wiki doesn't support fan fiction in its primary articles, other than our [[fan fiction|single entry pertaining to it]]. My primary concern is that while we should extend an assumption of good faith on the part of the cast and crew (which makes sense, since we do the same thing here to contributors), it is in '''how''' we would practice this. Does this mean ignoring errors that the crew create? If so, what kind of errors? Would the error be "small"? If so, how "small" ''is'' "small"? How "huge" is "huge"? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:20, 15 September 2006 (CDT) | | Basically, I am in full agreement that Battlestar Wiki should avoid fanwanking -- which is just another manifestation of [[w:fanon|fanon]]'s ugly head anyway and Battlestar Wiki doesn't support fan fiction in its primary articles, other than our [[fan fiction|single entry pertaining to it]]. My primary concern is that while we should extend an assumption of good faith on the part of the cast and crew (which makes sense, since we do the same thing here to contributors), it is in '''how''' we would practice this. Does this mean ignoring errors that the crew create? If so, what kind of errors? Would the error be "small"? If so, how "small" ''is'' "small"? How "huge" is "huge"? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:20, 15 September 2006 (CDT) |
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| : Excellent point, and it is this "how" I was trying to start a discussion on the Continuity Error Talk page. What is the current how? One way maybe to define small and huge relative to each other. The timeline errors might be considered huge (the hugest) and the others ordered relative to each other. Or there could be a voting mechanism. Or people could be encouraged to offer other explainations (being aware of fanwanking). Or maybe there is some amount of "suspension of belief" that we can agree on. I would certainly welcome other ideas on the "how"s. [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 13:01, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
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| I just want to point out before this (well written and worthy) proposal is promulgated that your example concerning the Cylon detector is a poor one - although it's true that Baltar lies frequently, he had no conceivable reason to do so while bemoaning the hurculean task of testing the fleet's blood samples - he was talking to himself, and nobody but his hallucinatory six was listening.
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| A better example might be Kat's statement that there are no more recruits coming in "Final Cut", which was demonstrated to be false in "Scar" - she was speaking in emotional tones about a topic of which she had incomplete knowledge. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:23, 13 November 2006 (CST)
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| == Needs further discussion ==
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| I think this proposal needs much more love than we're giving it... Since it's champion is otherwise AWOL, let's pick up where he left off. Let's renew discussion, since this issue is still present with us. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 09:36, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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| :I believe this is really implemented already, we already categorize continuity errors the way the proposal says. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:18, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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| ::I agree. We've firmed up our fanwanking and errors process substantially since this proposal. I think it can be ditched unless there's something we've missed. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:18, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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| == Vote to shelve this proposal ==
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| This is a formal vote on '''whether or not we should shelve this proposal''', since, as noted above, we've done much to deal with how we address errors in the source material.
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| Other users are encouraged to vote as well, simply use {{tl|vote}} to add your vote. Refer to [[Template:Vote]] for complete instructions.
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| # [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{Support}} We've come a long way since this proposal was set before us; it's best to shelve it. If the issue needs to be revisited, then we can do it with a new proposal. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:45, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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| # [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
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| # [[User:Day|Day]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
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| # [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
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| # [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] - {{support}} per Joe, Catrope. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 10:57, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| # [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] - {{support}} We do this in practice already, so it's obsolete. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:56, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| # [[User:Shane|Shane]] - {{oppose}} As the season comes to a close, this will be good to have. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:04, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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| #:{{comment}} Maybe we should clarify what "support means. Joe supports shelvings it, but you support keeping it. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 01:47, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| #::{{comment}} Support as it will help in making sure if there any problems with show countinuty that it will not go into episode guides and only the correct error page. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 01:57, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| #:::{{comment}} But the way I see it, you need to vote "oppose", because this is for or against '''shelving'''. Note how Joe voted. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 02:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| # [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] - {{Support}}. Put this on ice. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:56, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| # [[User:Catrope|Catrope]] - {{Support}} It's become almost completely redundant, as continuity errors are already categorized this way. I'll have the [[Continuity errors (RDM)]] page link to each type of continuity error (IIRC, they all have their own article), which will totally obsolete this page. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:01, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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