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# [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity. | # [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity. | ||
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# [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] - {{Neutral}} I still am not 100% convinced. I think deleted things should stay deleted. Sysops can always refer to a deleted page anyway. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 04:43, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | # [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] - {{Neutral}} I still am not 100% convinced. I think deleted things should stay deleted. Sysops can always refer to a deleted page anyway. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 04:43, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
#: {{comment}} You just said it. ''Sysops'' can, but regular users cannot (and even sysops need to physically undelete the page before they can view it). We have similar templates and procedures for requesting [[Template:move|moves]] and [[Template:delete|deletions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 05:02, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | #: {{comment}} You just said it. ''Sysops'' can, but regular users cannot (and even sysops need to physically undelete the page before they can view it). We have similar templates and procedures for requesting [[Template:move|moves]] and [[Template:delete|deletions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 05:02, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
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#::: {{comment}} Damn, you're right, didn't know Special:Undelete was that versatile (I'm a sysop at the HB). Like the policy says, users might want to see a deleted page if they think its deletion was unjustified. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 05:45, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | #::: {{comment}} Damn, you're right, didn't know Special:Undelete was that versatile (I'm a sysop at the HB). Like the policy says, users might want to see a deleted page if they think its deletion was unjustified. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 05:45, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
#:::: {{comment}} Then that user should place a message on the sysops that deleted its userpage. When i delete something I always explain on their talk page why. Would we still keep talk pages where people have spammed or written profanity? Who decides what gets kept and what is deleted? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 05:55, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | #:::: {{comment}} Then that user should place a message on the sysops that deleted its userpage. When i delete something I always explain on their talk page why. Would we still keep talk pages where people have spammed or written profanity? Who decides what gets kept and what is deleted? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 05:55, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
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# [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] - | # [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] - | ||
# [[User:Shane|Shane]] - {{Oppose}} in it's current state. A lot of things still need to be hammered out ''if'' this way going to become policy. The number of deletions that we discuss on talk pages are very few and right now, our size of the wiki does not need to "archive" deleted discussion or the articles them selfs. Sysops delete things based on the [[BW:DEL]] policy and the [[BW:DEL]] policy has no flaw in the wording. Under the " Criteria for Deletion" #2, 3, 6 and 7 seem to be the most common reasons for deletions on the wiki. [[BW:UNDEL]], an un-binding policy at the moment, offers little insight on what we should do also. However, most deletions that we do here are again #2, 3, 6, and 7. | # [[User:Shane|Shane]] - {{Oppose}} in it's current state. A lot of things still need to be hammered out ''if'' this way going to become policy. The number of deletions that we discuss on talk pages are very few and right now, our size of the wiki does not need to "archive" deleted discussion or the articles them selfs. Sysops delete things based on the [[BW:DEL]] policy and the [[BW:DEL]] policy has no flaw in the wording. Under the " Criteria for Deletion" #2, 3, 6 and 7 seem to be the most common reasons for deletions on the wiki. [[BW:UNDEL]], an un-binding policy at the moment, offers little insight on what we should do also. However, most deletions that we do here are again #2, 3, 6, and 7. #8 though sets up the policy for archiving the talk pages of deleted items. This should be removed to reflect that we do not link the pages currently at the moment. But if the article was already deleted under #2, 3, 6, and 7 there would be no point in leaving the talk page, but leaving a note on the user who created it talk page. The intention is good, but we need more "vandalism" deletes for this policy to work and right now, we don't have any anonymous edits and most are fixable within an hour or two and don't effect the search engine spiders. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:59, 22 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
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# [[User:Catrope|Catrope]] - {{support}}. I wrote the proposal and created the templates. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:42, 21 April 2007 (CDT) | # [[User:Catrope|Catrope]] - {{support}}. I wrote the proposal and created the templates. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:42, 21 April 2007 (CDT) | ||