Editing Battlestar Wiki talk:Official Representation

Looks good. For the record, when I attend SF conventions (occasionally running panels on BSG), I speak '''of''' the wiki, but ''never'' on behalf, normally to direct others to visit here and, if possible, showing off the wiki and its collection. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:32, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:I'm sure there may be some times where an event such as a Convention could have some kind of official representation? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 11:38, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:Since I don't go to any of the conventions maybe Spenc should be our ''OR'' at them. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:38, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::Personally, I wouldn't mind that. I would like to put it up for further discussion, however. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:06, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Of course :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:08, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

== Official Representative (Battlewiki Avatar) ==
While I am by no means opposed to having a level-headed, well spoken individual such as Spencerian represent myself (and the Wiki), I wonder how often it is really required. Who does the "representative" represent themselves to, and about what? I would think that most issues involving prosetylizing could be answered by any contributor (representing themselves solely as an individual contributor). Answering questions about how the wiki works, our policies, and what you can find here all seem within bounds. The only reason I could see needing a representative would be in making agreements (the Wikia/Mediablvd talks come to mind). Maybe having a "contigency representative" appointed (in case a representative is requested) would be prudent, but I don't know if an avatar is necessary for the rest of the time. It's not that I'm afraid we'd be represented poorly ("Battlestar Wiki thinks the coffee here sucks"), just that we should generally be able to cover the job representing ourselves. 

If BW ever had an official booth at events like these (though I can't think of an immediate reason why we would), then it might be a good idea to have an OR stationed at the booth (in addition to other editors, etc). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:31, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:Exactly right Steelviper; we really only have to have official representation at like one or two things; I mean if a panel comes up of fansites at a convention or something yeah, but usually any of us can just proslytize on our own.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 13:19, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

== Internationalization Representation ==

I been thinking. We really do not have that much activity for the other languages and I was thinking of ways that we can do it. For the most part, we don't do any advertizing on any english sites, but just enough, that people still come back and check us out and register and do a few minor edits. But the problem is that we have now a disittive places for both German and Spanish areas away from the "English" url. We also have a few other languages as subpages, but not as much and hardly enough content. So here would be the plan.

Know of the active users of most of the languages, and I am sure we can get in contact with the other if needed through email, I a am suggestion that we make an official representive for each language. With that comes the perks. Since we already have a distictive "Spanish" and "German" wikis away from the English wiki, I am suggestion that we grant the OR of these languages with the '''sysop''' flag. This would help in giving that person a distict advantage when it would come to promoting the their lang. wiki. Editing the spaces of the "MediaWiki" and "Main Page" without having to hassle Joe to do it for them. However, each lang still has to always follow the polices set forth by the "English" wiki (Read my updated [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project|Internationailation]] idea) but might have to come up with their own policies as they deem fit for the lang. as a group. They can and should also promote duties within their group just as we do here on the English Wiki. And the same for creating "Project" ideas. As the [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project|Internationailation]] states, or will be in a few days, the promotion should not happen till all the required documents are translated. I am gathering a list on my [[User:Shane/DefaultImportItems|user page]] so be sure to check out that list as well.

The next part is what should we have our ''OR'' say if they were going to go around promoting the Battlestar Wiki. [[/The Blurb|Here]] is a sample "blurb" that can be cookie cutted to the indivudial lang. I have it on the sub-page so we can comment on the ideas still on this page. I think this would really help us incress the use of the wiki for different langs.

That's about out. Questions, Comments, more ideas? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:47, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

;Proposed ''OR''s
* SuperMMX - Chinese, Simplified Chinese
* Astfgl - German, native German
* ?? - Spanish

This is just list of the two active users.
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 If BW ever had an official booth at events like these (though I can't think of an immediate reason why we would), then it might be a good idea to have an OR stationed at the booth (in addition to other editors, etc). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:31, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
 :Exactly right Steelviper; we really only have to have official representation at like one or two things; I mean if a panel comes up of fansites at a convention or something yeah, but usually any of us can just proslytize on our own.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 13:19, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
-:I agree here. I'm primarily an advocate for the resource, telling people "how cool it is to have around." As far as agreements and the like, I don't think I would have the technical, legal, or administrative wherewithal to deal with these matters, nor does a real "face" need to be used in the situations where I talk to other fans. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:31, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 == Internationalization Representation ==
-I been thinking. We really do not have that much activity for the other languages and I was thinking of ways that we can do it. For the most part, we don't do any advertizing on any english sites, but just enough, that people still come back and check us out and register and do a few minor edits. But the problem is that we have now a distictive places for both German and Spanish areas away from the "English" url. We also have a few other languages as subpages, but not as much and hardly enough content. So here is the the plan.
+I been thinking. We really do not have that much activity for the other languages and I was thinking of ways that we can do it. For the most part, we don't do any advertizing on any english sites, but just enough, that people still come back and check us out and register and do a few minor edits. But the problem is that we have now a disittive places for both German and Spanish areas away from the "English" url. We also have a few other languages as subpages, but not as much and hardly enough content. So here would be the plan.
-We know of the active users of most of the languages that we have some content with, and I am sure we can get in contact with the other if needed through email. I am suggestion that we make them official representive for each of their languages. With that comes the perks. Since we already have a distictive "Spanish" and "German" wikis away from the English wiki, I am suggestion that we grant the ''OR'' of these languages with the '''sysop''' flag on their lang wiki. This would help in giving that person a distict advantage when it would come to promoting the their lang. wiki. Editing the spaces of the "MediaWiki" and "Main Page" without having to hassle Joe to do it for them. Importing XML files will also help them speed up the process. However, each lang still has to always follow the polices set forth by the "English" wiki (Read my updated [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project|Internationailation]] idea) but might have to come up with their own policies as they deem fit for the lang. as a group. They can and should also promote duties within their group just as we do here on the English Wiki. And the same for creating "Project" ideas. As the [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project|Internationailation]] states, or will be in a few days, the promotion should not happen till all the required documents are translated. I am gathering a list on my [[User:Shane/DefaultImportItems|user page]] so be sure to check out that list as well.
+Know of the active users of most of the languages, and I am sure we can get in contact with the other if needed through email, I a am suggestion that we make an official representive for each language. With that comes the perks. Since we already have a distictive "Spanish" and "German" wikis away from the English wiki, I am suggestion that we grant the OR of these languages with the '''sysop''' flag. This would help in giving that person a distict advantage when it would come to promoting the their lang. wiki. Editing the spaces of the "MediaWiki" and "Main Page" without having to hassle Joe to do it for them. However, each lang still has to always follow the polices set forth by the "English" wiki (Read my updated [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project|Internationailation]] idea) but might have to come up with their own policies as they deem fit for the lang. as a group. They can and should also promote duties within their group just as we do here on the English Wiki. And the same for creating "Project" ideas. As the [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project|Internationailation]] states, or will be in a few days, the promotion should not happen till all the required documents are translated. I am gathering a list on my [[User:Shane/DefaultImportItems|user page]] so be sure to check out that list as well.
-The next part is what should we have our ''OR'' say if they were going to go around promoting the Battlestar Wiki. [[/The Blurb|Here]] is a sample "blurb" that can be cookie cutted to the indivudial lang. I have it on the sub-page so we can comment on the ideas still on this page. I think this would really help us incressed the use of the wiki for different langs as well as maybe the English wiki itself.
+The next part is what should we have our ''OR'' say if they were going to go around promoting the Battlestar Wiki. [[/The Blurb|Here]] is a sample "blurb" that can be cookie cutted to the indivudial lang. I have it on the sub-page so we can comment on the ideas still on this page. I think this would really help us incress the use of the wiki for different langs.
 That's about out. Questions, Comments, more ideas? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:47, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
-:Any comments, questions? Otherwise I am going  to send this to SuperMMX and Astfgl for translation and distubution.. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:15, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
-::I think it's fine. Unless there's something that I missed that someone would like to point out. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 08:55, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
 ;Proposed ''OR''s
-* SuperMMX - Chinese
+* SuperMMX - Chinese, Simplified Chinese
-* Astfgl - German
+* Astfgl - German, native German
 * ?? - Spanish
 This is just list of the two active users.
-== Official Signature Graphic ==
-Several of our contributors participate in many other forums which allow "sigs" in their posts. Personally, I have used an "unofficial" graphic in the past trying to advertise for the wiki, and I have always tried to behave properly off-wiki. I would like to propose the creation of an official graphic, along with "rules of conduct" when displaying such graphic. Thoughts? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:52, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-:Do we have banners for linking from other websites around somewhere? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 11:54, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-::Another option, of course, which I don't mind, is we just don't allow it. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:57, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-:::A small image. We only have one which is located [[:Image:Joincrew.jpg]]. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:02, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-I think we are headed to a very grey area here. The precident set by one of our previous members makes me extremely leery of letting any user, regardless of temperment, post a sig plate at the bottom of his or her posts on any public forum.
-I would rather not do it at all, to be honest; the wiki grew organically on its own, drawing people in who were interested in such a project.
-The most inoccuous (and likely safest) way to promote the wiki would be to establish partnerships with other websites and cross pollinate links. We just need to be careful of what sites we link to and it's easier to hold the webmaster accountable for his or her actions. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:51, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-:aye. Word of Mouth. (In this case.. "text"). --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:53, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-::Word of mouth is the best form of promotion, regardless of all this electronic felgercarb. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:02, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-:::Agreed. Even though I have the best intentions, not all will. Working with the webmasters and Admins at other sites is the way to go. After what has transpired, I just wanted to have this addressed. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 21:08, 2 September 2006 (CDT)
-::::I fully understand and agree. Thanks for getting the ball rolling, Frankie. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:11, 2 September 2006 (CDT)