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===[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]]=== | ===[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]]=== | ||
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I know this is shocking that I writing this RFA, but I wanted to nominate him so I can say: “You’re doing the right thing now.” | I know this is shocking that I writing this RFA, but I wanted to nominate him so I can say: “You’re doing the right thing now.” | ||
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# [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> - Per Nominator | # [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> - Per Nominator | ||
#''Support with caveat'' I am not sure how this board truly works, since it doesnt have a very user friendly board for these discussions. Never the less, I would like to speak on this matter and I would hope that my words have some impact on the discussion. I would hope that some of you know me, at least by reputation by now. And while I will recap a bit about myself, it isnt because Im looking for any attention, it is to clearly set the stage that I am not a stooge put up to anything by anyone. I represent as well as can be, a truly neutral party and opinion. The Merv and I go back as far as my first days on Skiffy. He and I dont agree on much. Hes a liberal, pretentious, self deluded mommas boy who makes up for his frail ego by over reacting to every slight. Ive never seen him turn the other cheek or show anyone some grace if there wasnt some angle in it for himself. Those are his well known and documented negatives. And baby those are some serious ones. Lets be frank. His people skills suck. he'd have trouble getting work at an Iraqi prision. But... If he did get that job, AND the other guard could be aware of and manage his tendency to beat prisioners for looking at him wrong... he'd be a fine guard. Truly. Not one prisoner would escape or fight nor would any drugs or bad gaurds get away with jack on his watch. He'd run a tight ship. He is an exceptionally hard worker. And what is Wiki if not a lot of tedious hard work? He is idealicly suited for this job... Notice I did not say as an Admin. He can do his job without that power or prestige. But, he is human, and male. And he does need his ego stroked. We all do. Being an Admin IS a suitable reward for his work. And if you can show him the grace he hasnt shown others, including myself, as he has lied about me and attacked me for my politics and not politiclly but personally, but if you can deal with who the man is, and I mean know it, accept it, manage it and bitch slap him with revokation if he doesnt listen, then Id say the deal is one you should make. Think of him like the badboy basketball player. You know he's gonna have off the court issues. But I will say this, you probably will be hard pressed to find a better person than the Merv. Good luck Merv... I truly wish that when you do get this, you realize that HUMILITY and GRACE will get ya further than being an ass... Sincerely, Rachel Faith Anderson.... (RFA) <--- aint that a heck of an ironic thing for this... LOL {{unsigned|RachelFaith}} | #''Support with caveat'' I am not sure how this board truly works, since it doesnt have a very user friendly board for these discussions. Never the less, I would like to speak on this matter and I would hope that my words have some impact on the discussion. I would hope that some of you know me, at least by reputation by now. And while I will recap a bit about myself, it isnt because Im looking for any attention, it is to clearly set the stage that I am not a stooge put up to anything by anyone. I represent as well as can be, a truly neutral party and opinion. The Merv and I go back as far as my first days on Skiffy. He and I dont agree on much. Hes a liberal, pretentious, self deluded mommas boy who makes up for his frail ego by over reacting to every slight. Ive never seen him turn the other cheek or show anyone some grace if there wasnt some angle in it for himself. Those are his well known and documented negatives. And baby those are some serious ones. Lets be frank. His people skills suck. he'd have trouble getting work at an Iraqi prision. But... If he did get that job, AND the other guard could be aware of and manage his tendency to beat prisioners for looking at him wrong... he'd be a fine guard. Truly. Not one prisoner would escape or fight nor would any drugs or bad gaurds get away with jack on his watch. He'd run a tight ship. He is an exceptionally hard worker. And what is Wiki if not a lot of tedious hard work? He is idealicly suited for this job... Notice I did not say as an Admin. He can do his job without that power or prestige. But, he is human, and male. And he does need his ego stroked. We all do. Being an Admin IS a suitable reward for his work. And if you can show him the grace he hasnt shown others, including myself, as he has lied about me and attacked me for my politics and not politiclly but personally, but if you can deal with who the man is, and I mean know it, accept it, manage it and bitch slap him with revokation if he doesnt listen, then Id say the deal is one you should make. Think of him like the badboy basketball player. You know he's gonna have off the court issues. But I will say this, you probably will be hard pressed to find a better person than the Merv. Good luck Merv... I truly wish that when you do get this, you realize that HUMILITY and GRACE will get ya further than being an ass... Sincerely, Rachel Faith Anderson.... (RFA) <--- aint that a heck of an ironic thing for this... LOL {{unsigned|RachelFaith}} | ||
'''Oppose''' | '''Oppose''' | ||
#The KoenigRules incident took place just a month and a half ago, and was part of an ongoing series of questionable behavior which the Merovingian has exhibited since the beginning of his time with us. Although his behavior since then has been exemplary, at present I have no reason to believe that this pattern will not recur. --[[User: | #The KoenigRules incident took place just a month and a half ago, and was part of an ongoing series of questionable behavior which the Merovingian has exhibited since the beginning of his time with us. Although his behavior since then has been exemplary, at present I have no reason to believe that this pattern will not recur. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:50, 10 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
#*Peter is right on adopting a "wait and see" attitude regarding this matter. While apologies were extended, I am still being very cautious. As a result of the "Trash KR" campaign, someone from M.'s camp did phone my workplace, trying to make the supervisors see that my scholarly research was without merit. Whether the intent was to remove me from the institution (or not), the fact is this was a BIG DEAL. People like M. need to see that what they say can impact on others' behavior. And they need to bear the responsibility for their actions- even those that they may not have contributed directly to- but even indirectly- through the malicious campaigns that they started. I still have not had apologies extended from M. regarding the call to my workplace. It would have been nice, but so be it. And as long as M. thinks he had no bearing in the issue, then that reflects badly on him and his character. Unfortunately, I too see that other things will arise that will cast this site in a bad light, as a result of M.'s behavior. Just my two cents here. Sorry for the rant, but when your career is on the line, you cannot forget the individual(s) that were involved. I just hope situations like this never happen to you. --[[User:Koenigrules|Koenigrules]] 12:53, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | #*Peter is right on adopting a "wait and see" attitude regarding this matter. While apologies were extended, I am still being very cautious. As a result of the "Trash KR" campaign, someone from M.'s camp did phone my workplace, trying to make the supervisors see that my scholarly research was without merit. Whether the intent was to remove me from the institution (or not), the fact is this was a BIG DEAL. People like M. need to see that what they say can impact on others' behavior. And they need to bear the responsibility for their actions- even those that they may not have contributed directly to- but even indirectly- through the malicious campaigns that they started. I still have not had apologies extended from M. regarding the call to my workplace. It would have been nice, but so be it. And as long as M. thinks he had no bearing in the issue, then that reflects badly on him and his character. Unfortunately, I too see that other things will arise that will cast this site in a bad light, as a result of M.'s behavior. Just my two cents here. Sorry for the rant, but when your career is on the line, you cannot forget the individual(s) that were involved. I just hope situations like this never happen to you. --[[User:Koenigrules|Koenigrules]] 12:53, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
#I've seen some of the interactions at the Sciffy forum with respect to the last incident, and I'm not convinced he's mended his ways. I've seen his work (when he's not interacting with other people) and he definitely has a talent at what he does, but I don't think this is an appropriate role for him. In any case, this is premature. --[[User:Larocque6689|Larocque6689]] 22:31, 10 June 2006 (CDT) | #I've seen some of the interactions at the Sciffy forum with respect to the last incident, and I'm not convinced he's mended his ways. I've seen his work (when he's not interacting with other people) and he definitely has a talent at what he does, but I don't think this is an appropriate role for him. In any case, this is premature. --[[User:Larocque6689|Larocque6689]] 22:31, 10 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
'''Neutral''' | '''Neutral''' | ||
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#Merv's comments and replies (that is, the demeanor in which he replies) continue to be less abrasive in tone, and his research and resources continue to be helpful. I'm unsure if another admin is needed at this time, and I too want to see the last incident disappear into memory. I have little objection to Merv's eventual move to adminship once we have a need and, most importantly, when another RFA is entered, there are more positive comments on what was done by Merv vs. what was ''said'' by him recently. Sad to say, despite lots of progress, it seems Merv still has a "reputation" to repair. I know better, which is why I stand at "neutral." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:48, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | #Merv's comments and replies (that is, the demeanor in which he replies) continue to be less abrasive in tone, and his research and resources continue to be helpful. I'm unsure if another admin is needed at this time, and I too want to see the last incident disappear into memory. I have little objection to Merv's eventual move to adminship once we have a need and, most importantly, when another RFA is entered, there are more positive comments on what was done by Merv vs. what was ''said'' by him recently. Sad to say, despite lots of progress, it seems Merv still has a "reputation" to repair. I know better, which is why I stand at "neutral." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:48, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
'''Comments''' | '''Comments''' | ||
*Shane, are you only "giving him to chance to prove he is worthy at being an admin", or do you actually personally believe that he is? --[[User: | *Shane, are you only "giving him to chance to prove he is worthy at being an admin", or do you actually personally believe that he is? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:45, 10 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
* Existing Admins: Is there a need for another admin? IMHO, along with a qualified candidate, there should be a need. just my 2 [[cubits]] worth. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 10:27, 10 June 2006 (CDT) | * Existing Admins: Is there a need for another admin? IMHO, along with a qualified candidate, there should be a need. just my 2 [[cubits]] worth. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 10:27, 10 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
**We are not in urgent need of new admins right now, but our staff is smaller than it looks, and I would not object to a new admin on principle. --[[User: | **We are not in urgent need of new admins right now, but our staff is smaller than it looks, and I would not object to a new admin on principle. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:25, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
**We may be in need for more admins in the future. But as the situation currently stands, between the active contributors like Shane, Mercifull, et al. and the admins, we have it more than covered. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:59, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | **We may be in need for more admins in the future. But as the situation currently stands, between the active contributors like Shane, Mercifull, et al. and the admins, we have it more than covered. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:59, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
* Regarding Spencerian's comments: I'm not sure repairing a reputation, in and of itself, is really something very relevant to whether somebody is qualified to be an admin. The behaviour that caused the reputation in the first place may very well be relevant, but if so I think that behaviour should be considered independently of any effects on their reputation in one quarter or another. This would appear to turn an RfA into a popularity contest with the community at large, when it is already not supposed to be a popularity contest even with those here. However, as I have stated, how somebody handles a concerted backlash may indeed be relevant to how they would handle the duties of an admin. In any case, it is the actions of the candidate himself and not any reputation that I suggest should be considered.--[[User:Dogger|Dogger]] 23:45, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | * Regarding Spencerian's comments: I'm not sure repairing a reputation, in and of itself, is really something very relevant to whether somebody is qualified to be an admin. The behaviour that caused the reputation in the first place may very well be relevant, but if so I think that behaviour should be considered independently of any effects on their reputation in one quarter or another. This would appear to turn an RfA into a popularity contest with the community at large, when it is already not supposed to be a popularity contest even with those here. However, as I have stated, how somebody handles a concerted backlash may indeed be relevant to how they would handle the duties of an admin. In any case, it is the actions of the candidate himself and not any reputation that I suggest should be considered.--[[User:Dogger|Dogger]] 23:45, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
'''Questions for the candidate'''<br /> | '''Questions for the candidate'''<br /> | ||
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:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future? | :'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future? | ||
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