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== Create a page box ==

What do people think about adding a "create a page" box on the Main Page, so that it's easier for contributors to create new pages? Basically, how the "create a page" feature would work is it would be much the same as the input box on the [[BW:TANK|Think Tank]] page: type the name and press "create this article". Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 19:02, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
:Fine by me. I'll never use it, of course, but it would make life easier (and more obvious) for other contributors. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 03:12, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
: Update: This'll be implemented in a few days. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 15:18, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

== Additional changes ==

Since we've changed the nomenclature a bit around here, we're going to be changing the names of a few of our locales as well to mirror this. 

* The '''[[BW:AN|Administrators' noticeboard]]''' will be changed into the '''Chiefs' noticeboard'''.
* The '''[[BW:WQ|Wikipedians' Quorum]]''' will be changed into the '''Galactipedians' Quorum'''.

For backwards compatibility, we'll be keeping the original names and shortcuts as redirects. 

As for the [[BW:REF|reference desk]], I'm thinking we should just merge the content into the appropriate guidelines and policies and get rid of it, since it's hardly used. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 15:18, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
:Isn't that supposed to be Galactipedians' rather than Galacti''ca''pedians'? As for the plan itself, it's fine by me. I've never seen any activity at the reference desk since I came here, but it sounds like a place to ask questions. Isn't that already covered at the noticeboard and the Quorum? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
:: Right. :P And the reference desk is a holdover from my experiment in trying to get some WP stuff over here. There's also those FAQ lists which I think can be merged into the project namespace as well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 15:40, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

== WP's tlx template works here now ==

I've ported over Wikipedia's [[w:Template:Tlx]] to [[Template:Tlx]]. Tested. It works.  If you check back a long way in my edit history here you'll see I've done this with various other very useful WP templates.  Tlx in particular is very, very handy for template documentation, since you don't have to manually do a bunch of <code><nowiki><code><nowiki></nowiki></code> stuff (and I note that many if not most templates here remain undocumented, so perhaps this will help inspire some documentation). — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 10:33, 8 February 2008 (CST)
: Nice! Thank you! As for the templates, about half are documented (mainly the major ones) while other smaller ones aren't. Of course, they should be all documented, but it's a matter of prioritizing which one's need to be documented the most. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 10:38, 8 February 2008 (CST)
::Note that we already ''had'' this template, [[Template:Tlp|just under a different name]]. You might wanna copy the documentation, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:33, 8 February 2008 (CST)
:::D'oh. One being a redir to the other, with dox preseved seems to be in order.  Wikipedians like me think in terms of "tlx" and are unlikely to remember "tlp". — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 02:48, 9 February 2008 (CST)

== Rewrote [[:Council Security]] ==

I did a pretty much total rewrite of [[:Council Security]]. Hope it passes muster. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 10:35, 8 February 2008 (CST)
:Looks good in general. Nice details of their appearances. Though we generally write the article bodies themselves from a strictly in-universe perspective and confine real-world references to notes (unless it's an article dealing with an obvious real-world subject of course). -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:45, 8 February 2008 (CST)
::Yeah, I re-read the policy on that last night (after like 3 months); will re-re-write the article so that the real-world stuff is in the Notes section, unless someone has beat me to it. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 02:47, 9 February 2008 (CST)
:::I removed it. It was mainly about the comparisons to the US police or Secret Service. The article is fine without that. Saying things like "In episode so and so they did..." is ok if it can't be avoided. Since the article partly deals with their different depiction in various episodes, that's appropriate in this case. So a completely re-write isn't really necessary. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:54, 9 February 2008 (CST)

== "Spoiler follows, highlight to read" ==

Does anybody else find the "highlight to read" style distracting and kind of unprofessional? Why can't we just use a little CSS to make a pop-down spoiler box:

<div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px;"><div class="NavHead" style=" text-align: left; padding: 0px;">'''Spoiler follows'''</div><div class="NavContent" style="display: none; text-align: left; padding: 0px;"><div style="text-align:left; border: 1px solid #ffffff; padding: 2px; margin-top: 2px;">Adama is a cylon!</div></div></div>

(This is GFDL code from Wikipedia, I can copy it over to a template and give credit where it's due.) [[User:Evan|Evan]] 16:59, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

: I don't see any problem with this. :) What does everyone else think? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
::Format's pages wrong. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:40, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
::: In what way? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:11, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
::::Colours don't work in BsgMonoBook, alignment is off in BsgBook, I don't see anything wrong in the default skin though. [[User:Evan|Evan]] 18:22, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
::::Nvm, the colours work in MonoBook. Actually I don't see anything wrong in any of the skins. [[User:Evan|Evan]] 18:38, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

::If it doesn't screw anything up, this would be far better than the highlight thing we have now. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:54, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
::::The drop down does not format on lists correct. Like before, it would create a new line and interrupt the list numbers. Also, from our previous discussion on javascript expanding boxes in the middle of episodes pages (which are not at the top), templates that expand huge things of text change the entire format of the page layout when they expand. Images get shifted and it creates an unnesseary new lines that were not there before. It's always 100% width. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:30, 21 March 2008 (CDT)

OK, the template is created as [[:Template:Spoilerbox]], add it if you like. I'm not going to replace the existing spoilers since... I don't want to be spoiled :) [[User:Evan|Evan]] 07:39, 21 March 2008 (CDT)
:Nice template. Less is more for me on some pages, especially now. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:42, 21 March 2008 (CDT)
::Uh, one question...what's the input format for the template? I can't glean that from the description. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:45, 21 March 2008 (CDT)
:::I've updated the page, but the syntax is {{tlp|spoilerbox|This is a spoiler! Muhahahahha!}}. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:55, 21 March 2008 (CDT)
::I like the idea, but I'm not sure it's universally better than the current method... Especially if it will create problems like Shane mentioned. As dumb as it seems, I think the current method does have some advantages: Depending on how someone highlights the spoiler, they can control how much of the spoiler is revealed. Also, people can gauge how much content the spoiler contains just by looking at the amount of unreadable text. --[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 00:40, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

== Proposition for new article ==

Hi! Quite new here, and since I don't find a button for creating a new article, I figure I must go through the Quorum?

I'd love it if we could open a small article for adding notice for Caprica Six's unborn baby.
There's no actual article for this person yet, and I have to write my mentions about it, in already existing articles like Gaius Baltar's and Caprica Six's.

Thanks for the attention! {{unsigned|Iniovan}}

: Do we really know anything about the baby enough to write an article? At this point, we just know that Caprica-Six is pregnant and that the father is Saul. Other than that... any analysis on it could probably fit in the episode guides. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question on editing etiquette ==

Hi,

I'm a newbie here.  So this is a question so I can hopefully avoid stepping on anyone's toes.  If you see an existing article and wish to add to the information and content, would it always be best to ask the original contributor before doing so?  Especially if to do so, I would have to move some items around in the original article.  

For example, I want to put in a new reference to supplement the article, however, it would need to go before an existing article, requiring renumbering of all of the references.  

I'm just trying to get a feel of what is good editing and bad editing before I put foot in mouth.

thanks!
Jeff Rabb
:In a word, no. In addition to greatly slowing down the ability for the community to keep things up to date, it also ignores the fact that once you hit "save page" your edits become community property. There really isn't an "ownership" of articles, outside of perhaps articles in the "User" namespace. So feel free to [[BW:BOLD|be bold]] and get in those edits. If somebody takes issue with your edits they can either change it back themselves, take it up in the talk page of the article in question, and/or potentially bring it up on your talk page. New references are almost always welcome, as they're the glue that binds this place together.  --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 23:23, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice!
Jeff

== How Can This Not Be Canonical? ==

On the [[unnamed battlestars]] page, there is section dealing with the [[Berserk Class Escort]]. A notation notes the specific information on this class of ship is non-canonical.  Presumably because it comes from the ship designer's own website vs that from one of the sanctioned websites or sources.  But the ship WAS used in [[Razor]].  So how can one on one hand use it in the show and on the other hand say that any specific information on it from it's creator is non-canonical simply because TPTB never bothered to put it with a sanctioned source?  It either is or isn't in my book.  I'm sure this discussion has arisen many times before, but I'd like to find out the final arguement that finally determined why this source, which straddles the line, should be excluded as non-sanctioned? Jeff Rabb
:The ship described on the website is on the show, but canon starts from the aired content and trickles down from there. So while we do see the ship, we aren't given any in-show identification of the ship. Also, there's nothing from the producers on the matter. However... the information coming from "crew" does seem to place it somewhere in category 3 in the [[BW:CITE|source hierarchy]], so it should have some weight (IMO). Anyway, I can see where the note was coming from (in that none of the information about the name of the ship, etc., came from any aired info or from RDM, etc), but I think you've got a decent argument. Given Joe's edit to the article, it appears he at least checked out the source website enough to correct the spelling to match it. Personally, I'd consider replacing the "canon" note and just replace it with a reference pointing to Chu's website. I do have to agree that it's not necessarily a battlestar, and in fact given the escort designation it's likely not a battlestar. Battleships don't "escort" battleships, and likewise with aircraft carriers. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 01:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== The Caprican - Will We, Won't We ==

Hello all,

Very, very new here.  I'm wondering if the contents of the newzine "The Caprican" will be included in info on the Caprica series?

It's been really great to read it, and join in the group that's been posting in character.  I wouldn't think that the comments would be included as material, but the actual articles seem like they're going to be good fodder for Colonial life in general.

Thanks!
Glasswalker33

: I think we need to be very clear that whatever is in "The Caprican" isn't necessarily canon. If that's done, I have no qualm about including it, since it is put out officially by the SyFy Channel. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:36, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

::As I am new to this website, I was looking for an answer to this question (that, and regarding whether we will include the information from Serge's Twitter account).  How should we distinguish it is not "necessarily canon" - a separate non-canon section of a particular article, just note information in the background info./notes or just include it in the main article until it is contradicted? --[[User:JamiLeeD|JamiLeeD]] 23:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

:::Everything's been canonical so far, including things first mentioned in The Caprican that appear onscreen days or weeks later. The latest example being Eros Day, which was mentioned in The Caprican a month ago and on the card in "End of Line". -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:52, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

::::Also, the rather ominous note about new railings on the Pantheon Bridge appeared weeks ahead of End of Line: http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/news/pantheon-bridge-getting-new-safety-measures.php Other things that appeaned in the Caprican before they showed up on the show were Vesta, the terror alert being raised (which was a plot point in End of Line-- it was why they couldn't get Zoebot off-planet for another week), and (if I'm remembering right) v-date. Clearly whoever writes it is involved with the production of the show. -- [[User:Rjinswand|Rjinswand]] 01:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

:::::Yes, V-Match first showed up there. Natalie Stark was also first named there, and the concept of a holoband sleeper weeks before it talked about Vesta and New Cap City. Furthermore, Serge and The Caprican's usage of place names and Pyramid facts all agree with each other. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 15:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

::::::Any ideas for what how citations should be formatted for: 1. Serge's Twitter account, and 2. ''The Caprican''? - [[User:JamiLeeD|JamiLeeD]] 03:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== Question....Original Series ==

My teacher gave a clue to his laptop password...its "Three that was detroyed" from TOS
can anyone tell me what it means?
I tried D'Anna, Xena, And Six of one, none of the worked {{unsigned|Snarky}}

: "Three that was destroyed..." Hmm... Might be referring to a lot of things, actually. Like "Zac," the third child of Adama's that was killed in the pilot. Could be "Serina" too... I think your teacher needs to be a bit more specific. "Three" of what? Is "three" a specific thing, or does "three" mean a quantity? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 19:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Color of links to other wikis ==
I'm not quite sure this is the right place to ask this. I find a bit confusing that links to other wikis (e.g. Wikipedia, Memory Alpha) share their color with battlestarwiki links. I think its cool to link to other wikis at times, for example to give real world perspectives on some matters but I'd like to directly know if a link leads me away from this site. Maybe another shade of yellow/orange could be used? -- [[User:Penumbra|Penumbra]] 22:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
: Hmm... We could do that. I'd like to get everyone's impression on it though. I might tweet this so we can get some idea of what people think. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:17, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Just to illustrate my point (and bring the discussion up again): Most of you are probably aware of this but I think [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Ronald_D._Moore Memory Alpha] is a very good example for what I mean. The color of non-MA links is only slightly darker but it makes it very easy to spot them. -- [[User:Penumbra|Penumbra]] 19:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I am very much in support of this, I keep on getting sent to Memory Alpha or wherever when I don't really want to be. -- [[User:Rjinswand|Rjinswand]] 20:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The discussion wasn't very lively, sadly. But do we (=you, Joe) want to make a decission? I'm still very much in favor of this. -- [[User:Penumbra|Penumbra]] 09:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
: I'm very much in favor of this, too. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 12:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
: I'm in support of this and will work on it. What color should the off-site links be?  -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:47, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:: Cool. Two suggestions: <span style="color:#ff8935">Text</span> <span style="color:#c4c95b">Text</span>. The greenish one is derived from the yellow color of normal links. But the orange one might fit better with the wiki's overall style. -- [[User:Penumbra|Penumbra]]
::: I definitely like the orange version. Any other suggestions? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I've rolled out this change. We can tweak it as we go, but it was a simple fix. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Love it already. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 00:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Agreed! [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 04:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
: Cool! Just noticed that the new color doesn't show up in the note about the new color, though. ;) -- [[User:Penumbra|Penumbra]] 09:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Citation Links, Templates and...other things==
I have a suggestion for the wiki, I hope this is the right place to put this (The above discussion leads me to believe that it is), but it concerns the citation links to episodes, their placement and formatting.  I was thinking that a series of templates would allow the proper formatting this wiki wishes to obtain, while being able to properly link to the intended pages (for instance, having CAP lead to Caprica, instead of a disimbig page).  Some others from other wikis may get an idea of what I am trying to suggest (and perhaps it already has been done so).  This is not without it's flaws though, most wiki's have found (unless a better system can be put in place, or someone knows what they are doing are far better with wiki coding then I am) that episode pages all need to be moved to "title (episode)" to prevent false/unwanted page/wanted page requests.  Basically, the idea here is, when one wants to cite an episode of the reimagined series, they'd have to write <nowiki>([[TRS]]: "[[33]]")</nowiki>, my idea would have them writing out <nowiki>({{TRS|33}})</nowiki>, you'd get the same formatting, but less coding to do, especially if you going to cite multiple episodes. --[[User:Typhoeus|Typhoeus]] 07:25, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
: Thank you for the suggestion, however it's better to not go the template route for episode citations. First, this would not work for paragraphs where citing multiple episodes—perhaps across multiple series, like TRS & Caprica—would be necessary. Secondly, it's not really a matter of coding, but the number of database calls such a template would do each time the page is viewed—and, frankly, cost of increased database calls is not really worth that. Further, what you're suggesting is actually far more complicated than it has to be, both in terms of programming templates to deal with complex citation situations AND having people do it right the first time. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Alright, if it's going to end up costing more, I guess I can agree that it's not worth it, as for multiple episode citation though, Sorry, I forgot to add in, you'd simply add in another title after "33" as such "33|Title|Title 2" but anyway it doesn't matter, I wasn't aware that it would cause a database call that'd cost this wiki some money. --[[User:Typhoeus|Typhoeus]] 22:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
: Yeah, I had figured that too. It's a good idea, or seems to be, until you realize that there are over 4,000 articles that'll probably use the template, compounded by the many thousands of visitors we get on a daily basis... Then, it gets to be a bit of a quagmire. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Query regarding suicide bombing in Battlestar Galactica ==

Hi. I'm currently writing an essay on the suicide bombing in the episode occupation. I'm framing it from Bill Adama's perspective looking back on the events of the suicide bombing and trying to debate the moral conundrums that the episode so cleverly draws out. I am going to try and reflect on past events both fictional and within our world now that may have happened in the past. I am intrigued to know whether there is anything in the scriptures of the twelve colonies or in cylon prophecy that mentions martyrdom or the cult of the hero? I was also wondering if you had any more info on how Adama's Mom and Sister died, I know it was a suicide bombing but is there any more specific information on how it happened and why?
Thanks a lot, Joe -- {{unsigned|JoeCarr}}

: There's really nothing in the "Cylon scripture" or the [[Sacred Scrolls]] that tells their readers how to "deal" with "infidels." As for Adama's mom and sister's deaths, they were caused by [[Ben Stark]] of the [[Soldiers of the One]], who have their own aims and goals—as well as their own factions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:55, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== RDS / TRS ==

Why are articles in the reimagined series that need disambiguation marked "(RDM)" instead of "(TRS)"?  I understand where the RDM comes from, but [[Battlestar Galactica (TRS)|the series article itself]] uses TRS and reimagined series episode names in articles are supposed to be prefixed with TRS:, so it would appear that it's been decided that "TRS" is the appropriate series identifier.  To use "RDM" in article names would seem to me, quite frankly, to be wrong. [[User:Lexicon|Lexicon]] 22:28, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

: Lexicon, it's a new thing... Before the advent of ''Caprica'', we used "RDM" to disambiguate any articles pertaining to the re-imagined series; "TRS" wasn't used back when we started. In a nutshell, we now use "RDM" to describe anything in the ''universe'' created by the  Reimagined Series (including ''Caprica''), whereas "TRS" is used for any subjects depicted solely in the Re-imagined Series (sans ''Caprica''). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:12, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

::Ah. [[User:Lexicon|Lexicon]] 23:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Episode templates ==

I've created some simple templates like those on Memory Alpha for displaying episode titles with the appropriate prefixes and punctuation.  They are:

*<nowiki>{{TRS}}</nowiki>
*<nowiki>{{CAP}}</nowiki>
*<nowiki>{{1980}}</nowiki>

However, as there's already a <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template (which has been a candidate for deletion for some time), I couldn't make that one.

The template can be used by simply putting an episode name after a bar, and can fit up to eight episode names.  So <nowiki>{{TRS|Miniseries, Night 1|Miniseries, Night 2}}</nowiki> produces {{TRS|Miniseries, Night 1|Miniseries, Night 2}}.  Will these be considered useful?  And if so, can we get that other <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template gone so we can have a full set? [[User:Lexicon|Lexicon]] 23:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

: Not to splash acid on what you've done, but this was [[#Citation Links, Templates and...other things|brought up before]]. Now this is not to remind people that the decision made from that discussion is final (as it isn't), but I think it highlights something that most people do not consider. Feel free to further discuss. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

::Any idea what the "cost" of the use of such templates would be?  And is there a way to substitute the results of templates instead of having the templates actually called?  I thought that that was possible (I'm a regular Wikipedia editor and Admin).  Further, are there no bot programmers around who could just whip up a script to crawl the wiki and make all the changes? [[User:Lexicon|Lexicon]] 01:43, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, there are more than 4,000 pages that would call the script, and with the average page using roughly 5 of these episode templates per page... it gets to be a bit of a quagmire, as I mentioned before. Now times that by how many visits we get on a daily basis (40 to 50k)... So that's an additional 800,000,000(ish) calls per day—in addition to whatever the other templates (infoboxes and so forth) that each article calls. Now, Shane's done a good job at trying to reduce the server calls (because MW has this annoying habit of calling everything whenever the page is ''loaded'', as opposed to when it is ''updated''). Now our new server has some real power behind it, so I do feel that we could more than handle that... Still, I'm very cautious so I will have to speak to Shane about this, because he knows more about the tech stuff than I do. 

:::As for the bot code, Shane wrote (or modified) many of the bots. I spoke to him about that a few weeks ago, and (from what he and I understand) MW changed the way bots work in the 1.15 series. So we'll need to work on that as well, whenever we're not busy working. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:36, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== SVG images ==
I get this error when I try to include an SVG image I uploaded on a page:

::Error creating thumbnail: /usr/bin/rsvg: not found

Solution? [[User:Lexicon|Lexicon]] 02:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

: I'll have to check on this. I've written this down on my TO-DO list so I do not forget. Cheers! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:36, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

::Haven't been around for a while, but coming back now I see there's no error message shown anymore, but svg images are still not being displayed. [[User:Lexicon|Lexicon]] 16:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

::: Huh? Can you provide a link to the images that aren't showing up? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 19:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Ronald D Moore PODCASTS pulled from SyFy website?? ==

Hello all,

I've been enjoying the Podcasts as I work my way through this great series (half way through Season 3), though I was sad to see that as of yesterday the Podcasts are no longer hosted on the SyFy website.  Does anyone know of another web location where I can download those great podcasts??{{unsigned|Dimsdail}}
:Check iTunes. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 12:35, 8 May 2012 (EDT)

== Sacred Scrolls, Book of Pythia ==

Some friends of mine were haveing a disscusion about the Scared Scrolls and when and where they were written. Most say they were written on the Colonies, I say they were written on Kobol then addes to like the New Testement kinda. Also the phrase Life here began out there, same arguement. Does the saying start on Kobol or was it added once the got to the 12 colonies? Any thoughts or views welcome. Thanks, Unca John

:The first [http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/90/04703990/0470399090.pdf chapter (Are You Alive?)] of [[The Science of Battlestar Galactica]] sheds some light on the discussion, those interested can read it  -- -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 13:54, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

== Editing the Merchandise Page ==

Hey, so I'm trying to figure out how to edit the Merchandise category page. What I'm trying to do is edit out the "Eaglemoss" category as all of the models that they have released have been covered by the category below "Battlestar Galactica: The Official Ships Collection". I'm also trying to add a "Video Games" section to the list, but for some reason, I cannot edit the template and I've spent a couple of hours trying to solve this problem. My question is, please can someone help me do this?

Thanks in advanced! {{Unsigned|Fisher 2000}}

:You'll need to go to the [[:Category:Eaglemoss]] page and click on the three line menu, select "Category," and edit the Category to remove or re-sort it so that it removes the Eaglemoss listing from the category. If you're wanting to add Video Games category as a sub-category to the Merchandise category, then you would go to the [[:Category:Video Game]] page and add it accordingly. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:17, 28 January 2024 (UTC)