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* The setup for this plot might have been inspired by the TOS episode "[[The Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Part I]]". In both episodes, a group of criminals was conscripted from a prison ship to work on the icy surface of a hostile planet. A notable difference between the two episodes lies in how the workers were chosen. While the workers in "Bastille Day" were chosen in part for their expendability, the conscripts in "[[The Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Part I]]" were chosen for their expertise in harsh environments and in demolition work. Also different was the prisoners' motivation to take on the work. In "Bastille Day," the prisoners are offered the possibility of earning their freedom, whereas the prisoners in "[[The Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Part I]]" were offered nothing overtly other than the fear that the fleet might be destroyed without their services. A number of them take the assignment in the hopes of escaping during the action. | * The setup for this plot might have been inspired by the TOS episode "[[The Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Part I]]". In both episodes, a group of criminals was conscripted from a prison ship to work on the icy surface of a hostile planet. A notable difference between the two episodes lies in how the workers were chosen. While the workers in "Bastille Day" were chosen in part for their expendability, the conscripts in "[[The Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Part I]]" were chosen for their expertise in harsh environments and in demolition work. Also different was the prisoners' motivation to take on the work. In "Bastille Day," the prisoners are offered the possibility of earning their freedom, whereas the prisoners in "[[The Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Part I]]" were offered nothing overtly other than the fear that the fleet might be destroyed without their services. A number of them take the assignment in the hopes of escaping during the action. | ||
*According to the DVD commentary for the episode, the startling scene when Number Six yells in Baltar's face that "they're going to throw you out of an airlock!" was a visual homage taken from the film "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099871/ Jacob's Ladder]," which has a similar startling close up shot.<ref group="footage" name="virtual_six_jacobs_ladder_homage">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|19m57s}}</ref> Tricia Helfer was given scary makeup for the shot, but in such a slight way that it is difficult for the eye to see what's wrong with the shot, but the audience can tell on some level that something's wrong. If you pause during her close-up shot, you can see that she's wearing contact lenses that make her eyes look unnaturally bright, and a mouthpiece of fake teeth which are bent out of shape and unnaturally large. | *According to the DVD commentary for the episode, the startling scene when Number Six yells in Baltar's face that "they're going to throw you out of an airlock!" was a visual homage taken from the film "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099871/ Jacob's Ladder]," which has a similar startling close up shot.<ref group="footage" name="virtual_six_jacobs_ladder_homage">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|19m57s}}</ref> Tricia Helfer was given scary makeup for the shot, but in such a slight way that it is difficult for the eye to see what's wrong with the shot, but the audience can tell on some level that something's wrong. If you pause during her close-up shot, you can see that she's wearing contact lenses that make her eyes look unnaturally bright, and a mouthpiece of fake teeth which are bent out of shape and unnaturally large. | ||
*The building seen in the first scene with Helo and Sharon is actually the [[wikipedia:Vancouver Public Library|Vancouver Public Library]], one of the most recognizable buildings in the city of Vancouver. | *The building seen in the first scene with Helo and Sharon is actually the [[wikipedia:Vancouver Public Library|Vancouver Public Library]], one of the most recognizable buildings in the city of Vancouver. | ||
*The scene where {{callsign|Lee Adama}} holds his pistol to a kneeling [[Tom Zarek]] is a recreation of ''[[wikipedia:Dirty Harry|Dirty Harry]]'', according to [[David Eick]]'s comments in the DVD commentary. "That is the 'I know what you're thinking, punk' shot, down to the move, the lens, the distance of the camera away from the actor."<ref group="footage" name="lee_zarek_dirty_harry_homage">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|35m40s}}</ref> | *The scene where {{callsign|Lee Adama}} holds his pistol to a kneeling [[Tom Zarek]] is a recreation of ''[[wikipedia:Dirty Harry|Dirty Harry]]'', according to [[David Eick]]'s comments in the DVD commentary. "That is the 'I know what you're thinking, punk' shot, down to the move, the lens, the distance of the camera away from the actor."<ref group="footage" name="lee_zarek_dirty_harry_homage">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|35m40s}}</ref> | ||
== Analysis == | == Analysis == | ||
*The Cylons didn't nuke every city on Caprica, although they did nuke most of them, including [[Caprica City]]. [[Ron Moore]] and [[David Eick]] point out in [[Podcast:Bastille Day|the home video-only podcast]] that at first this was a plot expediency, as showing the destruction of every city would have been prohibitively expensive. This production reality led to the story element of {{Callsign|Helo}} questioning why some cities were spared.<ref group="commentary" name="moore_eick_podcast_caprica_cities_spared">[[Podcast:Bastille Day|Podcast for "Bastille Day"]], timestamp 06:10</ref> The answer to this question comes in the episode "[[Downloaded]]," when viewers see the Cylons rebuilding and inhabiting a city themselves. The intense radiation exposure killed most humans on [[Caprica]] without the necessity of destroying all infrastructure. | |||
*It seems strange that Agathon would be shouting loudly to see if anyone might hear him, as this might draw Cylon attention.<ref group="footage" name="agathon_shouting_loudly">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|00m51s}}</ref> However, viewers can't tell how many hours [[Caprica-Valerii]] and Agathon might have spent discovering that the city is apparently empty. Moreover, it has only been 12 days since the Cylon attack, and Agathon has no idea how far over Caprica they have spread yet. | |||
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" | *The flight briefing {{Callsign|Starbuck}} gives as acting-[[CAG]] seems a bit "out of character" compared to her personality as developed later in the series. She is in full "[[w:Top_Gun_(film)|''Top Gun'']]" mode: wearing aviator sunglasses, sporting a cigar, and giving a very irreverent briefing. Actress [[Katee Sackhoff]] and the writers have said that after the first few episodes they learned to start adding "more of Katee into Starbuck," and Thrace's characterization is smoothed out further by the middle of the season. | ||
*Another oddity with this scene is that [[Boxey (RDM)|Boxey]]'s presence seems a bit forced. In the [[Podcast:Bastille Day|podcast commentary]], Ron Moore explains that the original concept was for Boxey to form a "family unit" with [[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Sharon Valerii]], living with them and acting as a sort of mascot for the pilots. This plot point was abandoned when Sharon's Cylon storyline was accelerated in "[[Water]]". The writers considered re-purposing him as an "[[w:Artful Dodger|Artful Dodger]]" character, but the idea was never developed, leaving his appearance in this scene feeling somewhat out of place.<ref group="commentary" name="moore_podcast_boxey_family_unit">[[Podcast:Bastille Day|Podcast for "Bastille Day"]], timestamp 14:40</ref> | |||
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*At the end of the [[Miniseries]], [[Saul Tigh]] chooses to quit drinking. In "[[33]]," Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] notes how good it is that Tigh isn't drinking anymore. However, Tigh has a relapse, having a few shots, and is a little tipsy in front of some crewmen (although he is not slurring his speech and stumbling over furniture).<ref group="footage" name="tigh_drinking_relapse">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|01m29s}}</ref> | |||
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*The notion of Starbuck being a sharpshooter, "best shot in or ''out'' of the cockpit"<ref group="footage" name="starbuck_best_shot_description">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|26m51s}}</ref> stretches the credibility of these scenes: shooting in a Viper and shooting a sniper rifle are entirely different things. [[Podcast:Bastille Day|In the podcast]], Ron Moore concedes this was a "concession to the form" for dramatic purposes. Rather than introducing a new [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marine]] sniper character the audience had no connection to, they made Starbuck the sniper to heighten the tension and drama of the final sequence, especially since it put her in the position of having her friend [[Lee Adama]]'s life in her hands.<ref group="commentary" name="moore_podcast_starbuck_sniper_dramatic">[[Podcast:Bastille Day|Podcast for "Bastille Day"]], timestamp 26:25</ref> Moore also addressed this in his earlier [http://blogs.scifi.com/battlestar/2005/04/production-update-q-a.php blog entry] of April 11th, 2005, following the episode's airing: | |||
<blockquote>"Kara might be the best shot in the fleet...but being a good shot is far from being a trained sniper. And she missed in that episode, a huge faux-paux for a scout sniper. In addition, she could not have been conducting unit training and sustainment training with the Marines...and fly her Viper.</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>In the season finale, with the Marine boarding party assaulting into the President's office...her guards would have had to put down their guns..or they would have been shot quickly..or at least physically detained at gunpoint. There is no way a standoff that close would ensue."</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>I think both comments are well taken and I concede the points. In both instances, we chose to go with the dramatic needs rather than the "real" choices. Making Kara the sniper was simply a way of providing more tension and drama into the final sequence of "Bastille Day" rather than going with a brand-new Marine sniper who the audience would have no investment in or identification with. Likewise, the stand-off aboad [sic] Colonial One would've probably never occured [sic] with real Marines and Secret Service agents, and indeed, early drafts of the script had the final beats playing out on either side of a barricaded hatch that separated the two sides. However, the feeling was that separating Laura et al from Tigh et al dissipated the drama and felt less suspenseful, so we decided to go for the stand-off. It's a judgement call, frankly. We're always striving to keep things as "real" as we can make them, but we are still producing a television series and we're telling a story, so sometimes we bend the rules to make the show more compelling or to avoid awkward scenes that actually slow it down and dissipate the momentum.</blockquote> | |||
== Questions == | == Questions == | ||
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== Official Statements == | == Official Statements == | ||
=== | === Cast and Crew Commentary === | ||
'' | * ''In the [[Podcast:Bastille Day|home video release commentary for "Bastille Day,"]] [[David Eick]] and [[Ronald D. Moore]] talk about [[Cally Henderson]], and how initial drafts had her being killed:'' | ||
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:'''[[David Eick]]''': [[Nicki Clyne]], who you see here playing Cally, was somebody who in the [[Miniseries]], I remember [[Michael Rymer|Michael (Rymer)]] and I cast just on the basis of her look, 'cause we thought she was really cute, she kind of reminded us of a young [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001167/ Shelley Duvall]. [...] she turned out to be so good that we— in launching the series we started talking about ways to involve her and I'm very proud of a moment coming up where she does something rather nasty, that... | |||
| | :'''[[Ronald D. Moore]]''': Well she almost died! '''She was gonna die in the initial drafts of this.''' | ||
:'''Eick''': That's right! He kills her! He rapes and kills her! And they're telling us we're too dark ''this'' year. | |||
:'''Moore''': Oh, I know. The second season is so much darker. And I don't think they even care. Yeah, Cally, Nicki, I hate to tell ya, but the bullseye was on Nicki here. And I can't even tell you why we decided it was, no I take that back I think it was your note; you said you wanted Cally to fight back and really show some balls in this scene. She bit his ear off... | |||
:'''Eick''': I said, "She bites his frakking ear off" and I was totally being...you know, just ''illustrative''! I didn't really mean it! | |||
:'''Moore''': And I wrote, "she bites his ear off"! | |||
:'''Eick''': "And I got the draft, and she bites his ear off! I was like "that's great!" | |||
:'''Moore''': '''And from that moment on, I think, she really became part of the show'''. In a real sense, once she had gone through that and survived, and you know Tyrol and the gang come in and see her in the hospital at the end you kind of felt like she is one of the family.<ref group="commentary" name="eick_moore_podcast_cally_survival">[[Podcast:Bastille Day|Podcast for "Bastille Day"]], timestamp 29:55</ref> | |||
* ''[[Nicki Clyne]] discusses her appearance in the episode:'' | |||
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''' | :"They used this mixture of corn syrup and coloring for the blood, which was extremely sticky...I had to squeeze this sponge of icky goo all over myself, and I had it on ''whole'' day. I couldn't wipe off the blood for lunchtime and put it back on, because of continuity reasons. So for the entire day I had my shirt completely stuck to me, and my face was all sticky — it ''wasn't'' a nice feeling. When I ate my lunch, no one wanted to sit with me. I even forgot I had this guck on me. I was walking around, throwing popcorn in my mouth and everyone was backing off and staring at me. I'm going "Hey, what's your problem?" Then it occurred to me, "Oh yeah, I look like Death! Right. OK!""<ref group="production" name="clyne_starlog_blood_makeup_experience">{{cite_magazine|quotes=|last=|first=|authorlink=|coauthors=|year=|month=|title=Battlestar Galactica|magazine=Starlog|volume=|issue=348|pages=31|id=|url=|accessdate=}}</ref> | ||
* ''[[Richard Hatch]] discusses the similarities between [[Tom Zarek]] and his portrayal of {{TOS|Apollo}} in the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}}:'' | |||
: "Tom Zarek and Apollo share a tremendous passion to make a difference in the world around them and to protect human rights. Both very idealistic. But Tom due to his painful history and paying such a huge price for his fight against injustice has crossed over to the darker side of his nature. He struggles with that as he has truly lost faith in the political system, government, and the law."<ref group="commentary" name="hatch_scifi_forums_zarek_apollo_comparison">{{cite_web|url=http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2258854&st=120|title=Live Q&A with Brandon Jerwa and Richard Hatch|date=5 January 2007|accessdate=21 june 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref> | |||
=== Behind-the-Scenes Insights === | |||
* ''From ''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]'':'' | |||
=== | :"[[Ronald D. Moore]] and [[David Eick]] saw the prison-ship storyline as an opportunity to explore themes of legitimacy and democracy in the post-apocalyptic Fleet. The episode's title, 'Bastille Day,' deliberately evoked the French Revolution to underscore questions about when revolution becomes justified and when authority becomes illegitimate."<ref group="production" name="companion_bastille_day_democracy_themes">{{cite book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|coauthors=|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|year=2005|publisher=[[Titan Books]]|location=London|isbn=1-84576-097-2|pages=|chapter=|chapterurl=|quote=}}</ref> | ||
* ''Moore elaborated on the episode's political themes:'' | |||
:"We wanted to ask hard questions about the nature of democracy and leadership in extreme circumstances. Zarek may be a terrorist, but his points about the unelected nature of Roslin's government are constitutionally valid. That's what made the episode interesting to write – there are no easy answers."<ref group="commentary" name="moore_companion_democracy_hard_questions">{{cite book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|coauthors=|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|year=2005|publisher=[[Titan Books]]|location=London|isbn=1-84576-097-2|pages=|chapter=|chapterurl=|quote=}}</ref> | |||
== Noteworthy Dialogue == | == Noteworthy Dialogue == | ||
*''On choosing sides:'' | |||
:'''[[William Adama]]''': Every man has to decide for themselves which side they are on. | |||
:'''{{callsign|Lee Adama}}''': I didn't know we were picking sides. ''[walks off]'' | |||
'''[[William Adama]]''': Every man has to decide for themselves which side they are on. | :'''William Adama''': That's why you haven't picked one yet.<ref group="footage" name="adama_lee_choosing_sides_exchange">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|05m24s}}</ref> | ||
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'''William Adama''': That's why you haven't picked one yet. | |||
'''Doral''': True | *''On Cylon-occupied Caprica:'' | ||
:'''Doral''': She's good. | |||
:'''Six''': So far. | |||
:'''Doral''': Jealous? | |||
:'''Six''': [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|This all]] makes me so sad. | |||
:'''Doral''': (matter-of-fact) They would have destroyed themselves anyway. They deserve what they got. | |||
:'''Six''': We're the children of humanity. That makes them our parents in a sense. | |||
:'''Doral''': True - but parents have to die. It's the only way children come into their own.<ref group="footage" name="cylons_caprica_parents_children_dialogue">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|11m32s}}</ref> | |||
*''Later, aboard ''Astral Queen'', in a broadcast by Tom Zarek:'' | |||
:'''Tom Zarek''': I make these demands not for me....but for you, the people. The survivors of the holocaust and the children of humanity's future. I am Tom Zarek, and this is the first day of a new era.<ref group="footage" name="zarek_broadcast_new_era_declaration">{{TRS video|Bastille Day|25m02s}}</ref> | |||
'''Tom Zarek''': I make these demands not for me....but for you, the people. The survivors of the holocaust and the children of humanity's future. I am Tom Zarek, and this is the first day of a new era. | |||
== Guest stars == | == Guest stars == | ||
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*[[Scott Nicholson]] as [[Starke]]/Stunt Guard #1 and Stunt Con #6<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_stunt_personnel">See: [[Sources:Bastille Day]]. Note that there are some misspellings on the call sheets.</ref> | *[[Scott Nicholson]] as [[Starke]]/Stunt Guard #1 and Stunt Con #6<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_stunt_personnel">See: [[Sources:Bastille Day]]. Note that there are some misspellings on the call sheets.</ref> | ||
*[[Guy Bews]] as Stunt Guard #1<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_day_six_stunts">See: [[Sources:Bastille Day#Day 6 of 7]]. Note that [[Starke]] is credited as "Stunt Guard #1" on Day 7, whereas Bews's character is called this on Day 6.</ref> | *[[Guy Bews]] as Stunt Guard #1<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_day_six_stunts">See: [[Sources:Bastille Day#Day 6 of 7]]. Note that [[Starke]] is credited as "Stunt Guard #1" on Day 7, whereas Bews's character is called this on Day 6.</ref> | ||
*[[Lou Bollo]] as Stunt Guard #2<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_bollo_stunt_guard" | *[[Lou Bollo]] as Stunt Guard #2<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_bollo_stunt_guard"/> | ||
*[[Duane Dickinson]] as Stunt Guard #3<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_dickinson_stunt_guard" | *[[Duane Dickinson]] as Stunt Guard #3<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_dickinson_stunt_guard"/> | ||
*[[Tony Morelli]] as Stunt Con #1<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_morelli_stunt_con" | *[[Tony Morelli]] as Stunt Con #1<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_morelli_stunt_con"/> | ||
*[[Ernest Jackson]] as Stunt Con #2<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_jackson_stunt_con" | *[[Ernest Jackson]] as Stunt Con #2<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_jackson_stunt_con"/> | ||
*[[Gaston Howard]] as Stunt Con #3<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_howard_stunt_con" | *[[Gaston Howard]] as Stunt Con #3<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_howard_stunt_con"/> | ||
*[[Scott Atea]] as Stunt Con #4<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_atea_stunt_con" | *[[Scott Atea]] as Stunt Con #4<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_atea_stunt_con"/> | ||
*[[Simon Burnett]] as Stunt Con #5<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_burnett_stunt_con" | *[[Simon Burnett]] as Stunt Con #5<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_burnett_stunt_con"/> | ||
*[[Gerald Paets]] as Stunt Con #7<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_paets_stunt_con" | *[[Gerald Paets]] as Stunt Con #7<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_paets_stunt_con"/> | ||
*[[Charles Andre]] as Stunt Marine<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_andre_stunt_marine" | *[[Charles Andre]] as Stunt Marine<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_andre_stunt_marine"/> | ||
*[[Dave Hospes]] as {{callsign|Lee Adama}} (stunt)<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_hospes_lee_stunt" | *[[Dave Hospes]] as {{callsign|Lee Adama}} (stunt)<ref group="production" name="call_sheets_hospes_lee_stunt"/> | ||
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