You know, we already know a lot about the Colonial Fleet (obviously). I'm personally hoping that RDM might use this episode to go into the Colonial Army (which seems the obvious nucleus of any resistance forces). But then again, that's just me. Kuralyov 22:44, 21 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Boomer Death[edit]
Additional sources have said that it is the Galactica Boomer, not the Caprica one, that dies. link Kuralyov 20:45, 28 Apr 2005 (EDT)
- You know, I get that feeling that Grace Park still has a lot of life (lives?:) left in her with this show. Let's hope, somehow, that Boomer's humanity reveals itself one more time in the process of saving a former crewmate as she bites the Big One. Her psyche, however manufactured, is tortured, and I think she'd prefer to die as a human, not as a Cylon. Spencerian 17:51, 4 Aug 2005 (EDT)
Kent State Shootings?[edit]
How could you possibly compare the shooting over coffee of 4 people to the shooting of 4 students at Kent State for protesting the Vietnam War? Aside from the fact that 4 people died in both, the reason they happened isn't in ANY WAY THE SAME. Did they mention this in the podcast or something? If you cannot cite a source, this should be removed.
At the same time, I'm a little iffy on the whole Jack Ruby parallel, but I'll let it stay as it isn't as glaringly wrong.
- RDM mentions both in the podcast. Listen carefully. --Peter Farago 01:53, 11 Aug 2005 (EDT)
- Frak! Peter beat me to it... :-) It's not my comparison. It is Toni Graphia's (the writer for this episode). Here the link: The Great Link. (This is where the first mention came up.)
- Also, it is a situation similar to the Kent State shootings -- as well as the Boston "Massacre". It's really a combination of both. Whether it is liked or not, Battlestar is allegory for our times (as well as an introspective to what happened in history). It does, in my humble opinion, what Star Trek has failed to do since The Next Generation aired.
- BTW, you could have simply used Google to research and verify the claim -- the link I provided came up on the search as well. Just FYI. :-) As for the Jack Ruby parallel, I believe it to be quite valid. Remember, there are many references to current (or historic) times. Heck, see the Talk:Cami page for an example of a parallel to American politics that was overlooked. Who would have thought? -- Joe Beaudoin 02:01, 11 Aug 2005 (EDT)
8 Sleepers[edit]
Can that number really be trusted? Isn't it more likly Boomer just gave a random number to save the chief, not knowing the real one? For the number 8 to be correct one has to believe two things:
- Baltar is correct when he says the sleeper in Boomer knows. How should Baltar suddenly know that which such certainty? And why does the sleeper know? There is no need to know that information, but good reasons not to know it, so that information can not be taken from captured agent. Also Caprica Boomer is not seen providing information about the sleepers in later episodes, she apparently doesn't know. If she isn't holding back (and why should she?) she is not even able to describe what at least one of the still unknown models look like.
- Boomer's human side can suddenly tap her sleepers information. After not even remembering shooting Adama or any other of her sleepers actions it's quite hard to believe she can suddenly extract a specific information from it.
Unless there is another source confirming the information one should rely on it. Nevfennas 13:35, 27 April 2006 (CDT)