Talk:Cylon History/Archive 1

What is the Source on This?

"The humans of the Twelve Colonies reveled in their technology and used it not only for good, but for war between themselves. The Cylons, a group of machines designed for hard labor and warfare, were built. Over time, the humans specialized the design, giving the machines a form of artificial intelligence."

This text contains information which I don't believe we actually know, the whole humans-specializing-design into AI. Could someone please tell me what the source on that is? Otherwise I think it should be remove since it could become a case of misinformation. --Sauron18 02:04 01 July 2006 (CDT)

What we know from RDM is that the Cylons were built for heavy labor like mining and factories and such, and for warfare between the Colonies, they might have been sentient then that's what I think but it's not confirmed; this passage is phrased a bit "Romantically". --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 11:46, 1 July 2006 (CDT)

I think that if it was rephrased into NPOV it would probably be OK. --FrankieG 12:54, 1 July 2006 (CDT)

I reworded it a bit, called them "intelligent", which is left to the reader to interpret as either Sentient or just A.I., or even simply programmed. --Sauron18 15:02 01 July 2006 (CDT)

I'm trying to reword the first sentence to get rid of the word "good" (seems POVish), but can't come up with anything. --FrankieG 15:43, 1 July 2006 (CDT)

Sauron18, excellent edit!! --FrankieG 17:13, 1 July 2006 (CDT)

Thanks :) --Sauron18 22:17 01 July (CDT)

Rework Notes into new wiki page?

"The retaliatory nature of sentient machines against humanity is a popular theme in science fiction."

What about putting this in Comparisons to other media? The SF listed in the notes would be a start. It would also be more general than just about Cylons. For Example, the lost in space theme of Battlestar Galactica has been seen in tv before, examples are "Lost In Space" and "Star Trek: Voyager". --Chet 09:31, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Just about everything seen on TV has been there before in one shape or another. After the 70s there aren't that many themes in science fiction that have't been pioneered already. Ideas are a dime a dozen anyways. It's the execution that counts. I don't think it's very worthwhile to note what has done before already, but allegedly served as a direct inspiration. Themes in Battlestar Galactica (RDM) approaches this in a better way, by listing recurring motifs without pointing at other fiction. --Serenity 09:36, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

I think I've been misunderstood, I do not wish to imply direct inspiration. I do believe that a comparison to an other work is worthwhile, it is with these comparisons that the differences in execution can be shown. With that in mind I will alter my suggestion: What about moving the notes to Themes in Battlestar Galactica (RDM) and/or Themes of Battlestar Galactica (TOS)? --Chet 20:57, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Re-imagined Series definition: Artificial Intelligence, research into such technology was deemed illegal by the Colonies after the First Cylon War (TRS: "Miniseries")