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[[Rapture]] guide is pretty good. If it was fixed up a little bit more... i think we be golden for an FA status. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:38, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
:Mhh, yes. That one looks good. Maybe if we find some official statements and a bit more noteworthy dialogue (just a few items. Some pages tend to go overboard with it). --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:41, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::I'll try to pull something appropriate out of the podcast for an official statement or two. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
:::How are we doing? More statements or dialogue needed? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:20, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::We don't typically have many screencaps in episode summaries, but this one could stand a couple: One of the Eye's nova over the Temple, and maybe one of Three approaching the Eye vision system. Also, does the production picture a good thing to have, since the stand-ins are still a bit of a distraction based on what we know now? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:24, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::Actually on the TOS episode summaries you'll notice that a lot of them do have an extra screencap or so sprinkled about midway through to help break up the text and illustrate another memorable moment. I was just thinking the same thing about that production photo... but being as the vision is likely a highly subjective experience (and could be, for all we know, just a massive hallucination), as well as the fact that it's a really compelling image... I wouldn't have a problem with keeping it. Unless a suitably powerful replacement could be found. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:50, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::I think content-wise, it's good now. The rest should be minor cleanup, like formatting and style, if there even is anything. Maybe the pics as mentioned above, but I'm fine with them. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:30, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
 
== Act breaks ==
 
The summary for the Teaser needs to be added and the questions also need to be more consise. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:11, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
:I'll take a stab at deleting some questions. People often tend to add too much there. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:09, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:Actually, the teaser is there. It's called Act 1 in the summary. Though that item about the standoff with Lee and Anders actually belongs there as well. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:24, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
::Then why isn't it called "Teaser"? By definition, the teaser is the act that appears before the main credits. Also, strangely enough, the ep guide only lists for acts (1,2,3,4) rather than five (T,1,2,3,4). Is this an anomaly on the part of the episode, or an error in the ep guide? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:59, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:::I don't know. "[[Eye of Jupiter]]" is like that too. "[[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]" and beyond are correct. I thought about correcting it, but tbh I don't know where the act breaks are :s --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:08, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
::::I think the act breaks are also commercial breaks, but I'm not sure. Could someone else confirm this? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah, basically. That's why network shows have a bit of an artificial structure around commercial breaks, sometimes with mini cliffhangers before them. PayTV shows don't have that and often for the better. On DVD, you can still see those heights in tension and of course a fade-out to black, but even with that, I quite often don't notice them unless I really pay attention to it. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:58, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::Right... it's just tricky to figure out where the commercial breaks are when you're going off the DVD. (This is an issue we'll face with TOS as well). One guide you might use is the podcast. It looks like the teaser runs about 9:10, if that's any help. The first action he comments on is Helo confronting Roslin. So it looks like "act 1" is the teaser. Crap. So one of the other act breaks has been missed (maybe). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:00, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
 
:I found the solution to the act break issue:
:"RDM: Now this is where we get into— personally, I don't think this is proper structure in television terms, that we get to this point and in comes Tyrol, Tyrol whacks him with a gun, and then this is the act-out. Of the third act."
:I added act 4 in the summary right after that bullet. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:22, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
::Good, maybe you can check the previous episode too? That one's missing a teaser too. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:27, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:::I think I got that one as well, now. End of act 3 of podcast is:
:::"Again, some nice visu- VFX work here. The missile, the Raptor. I think originally we had Starbuck on the ground and her outpost was gonna be overrun. "
:::Also the start of act 4 discussion in the podcast is about the whole Roslin thing, so I think we're good now. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:40, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

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Rapture guide is pretty good. If it was fixed up a little bit more... i think we be golden for an FA status. Shane (T - C - E) 12:38, 17 May 2007 (CDT)

Mhh, yes. That one looks good. Maybe if we find some official statements and a bit more noteworthy dialogue (just a few items. Some pages tend to go overboard with it). --Serenity 12:41, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
I'll try to pull something appropriate out of the podcast for an official statement or two. --Steelviper 13:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
How are we doing? More statements or dialogue needed? --Steelviper 15:20, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
We don't typically have many screencaps in episode summaries, but this one could stand a couple: One of the Eye's nova over the Temple, and maybe one of Three approaching the Eye vision system. Also, does the production picture a good thing to have, since the stand-ins are still a bit of a distraction based on what we know now? --Spencerian 15:24, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
Actually on the TOS episode summaries you'll notice that a lot of them do have an extra screencap or so sprinkled about midway through to help break up the text and illustrate another memorable moment. I was just thinking the same thing about that production photo... but being as the vision is likely a highly subjective experience (and could be, for all we know, just a massive hallucination), as well as the fact that it's a really compelling image... I wouldn't have a problem with keeping it. Unless a suitably powerful replacement could be found. --Steelviper 15:50, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
I think content-wise, it's good now. The rest should be minor cleanup, like formatting and style, if there even is anything. Maybe the pics as mentioned above, but I'm fine with them. --Serenity 09:30, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Act breaks

The summary for the Teaser needs to be added and the questions also need to be more consise. Shane (T - C - E) 20:11, 17 May 2007 (CDT)

I'll take a stab at deleting some questions. People often tend to add too much there. --Serenity 06:09, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
Actually, the teaser is there. It's called Act 1 in the summary. Though that item about the standoff with Lee and Anders actually belongs there as well. --Serenity 06:24, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
Then why isn't it called "Teaser"? By definition, the teaser is the act that appears before the main credits. Also, strangely enough, the ep guide only lists for acts (1,2,3,4) rather than five (T,1,2,3,4). Is this an anomaly on the part of the episode, or an error in the ep guide? --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 07:59, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
I don't know. "Eye of Jupiter" is like that too. "Taking a Break From All Your Worries" and beyond are correct. I thought about correcting it, but tbh I don't know where the act breaks are :s --Serenity 08:08, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
I think the act breaks are also commercial breaks, but I'm not sure. Could someone else confirm this? --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 08:51, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, basically. That's why network shows have a bit of an artificial structure around commercial breaks, sometimes with mini cliffhangers before them. PayTV shows don't have that and often for the better. On DVD, you can still see those heights in tension and of course a fade-out to black, but even with that, I quite often don't notice them unless I really pay attention to it. --Serenity 08:58, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
Right... it's just tricky to figure out where the commercial breaks are when you're going off the DVD. (This is an issue we'll face with TOS as well). One guide you might use is the podcast. It looks like the teaser runs about 9:10, if that's any help. The first action he comments on is Helo confronting Roslin. So it looks like "act 1" is the teaser. Crap. So one of the other act breaks has been missed (maybe). --Steelviper 09:00, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
I found the solution to the act break issue:
"RDM: Now this is where we get into— personally, I don't think this is proper structure in television terms, that we get to this point and in comes Tyrol, Tyrol whacks him with a gun, and then this is the act-out. Of the third act."
I added act 4 in the summary right after that bullet. --Steelviper 09:22, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
Good, maybe you can check the previous episode too? That one's missing a teaser too. --Serenity 09:27, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
I think I got that one as well, now. End of act 3 of podcast is:
"Again, some nice visu- VFX work here. The missile, the Raptor. I think originally we had Starbuck on the ground and her outpost was gonna be overrun. "
Also the start of act 4 discussion in the podcast is about the whole Roslin thing, so I think we're good now. --Steelviper 09:40, 18 May 2007 (CDT)