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*[http://www.wikipedia.org Wikipedia] – Where Wikipedia cites its own sources, it can be a useful guide. However, uncited assertions should not be trusted.
*[http://www.wikipedia.org Wikipedia] – Where Wikipedia cites its own sources, it can be a useful guide. However, uncited assertions should not be trusted.
*[http://www.imdb.com/ IMDB] – IMDB has not demonstrated a rigorous standard of fact-checking.
*[http://www.imdb.com/ IMDB] – IMDB has not demonstrated a rigorous standard of fact-checking.
*Fan sites such as [http://www.tecr.com/galactica/index.html Battlestar Galactica Tech Manual], [http://www3.telus.net/public/akamyot/chistory.htm Colonial History], [http://www.galacticastation.com/ Galactica Station] where they do not themselves cite sources.
*Fan sites such as [http://www.tecr.com/galactica/index.html Battlestar Galactica Tech Manual], [http://www3.telus.net/public/akamyot/chistory.htm Colonial History], [http://www.galacticastation.com/ Galactica Station], [http://www.tv.com TV.com] where they do not themselves cite sources.
*Anonymous sources, including those that cite an anonymous source. The validity of these sources cannot be verified without bias.
*Anonymous sources, including those that cite an anonymous source. The validity of these sources cannot be verified without bias.



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Jihad is an arabic word meaning "to exert utmost effort, to strive, to struggle." Battlestar Wiki strives to be a comprehensive and accurate source of canonical information. Because of the nature of a wiki where anyone may contribute, it is vital that sources be cited and facts checked. This project page is intended to serve as the hub of these operations.


Preamble[edit]

Battlestar Wiki's primary goals do not include discerning which unofficial sources have valid information. Our primary goal is to report valid information in an encyclopedic medium. Due to this, we will not be citing rumors from any sources other than official channels (SCI-FI Channel, Ronald D. Moore, and current cast and crew). Any information from sources other than those in the list will be immediately removed from the wiki; actions which lead to the repeated reintroduction of said unofficial and unverifiable material will be dealt accordingly by an on-duty administrator.

Acceptable Sources[edit]

In roughly descending order of reliability:

  1. On-screen evidence
    • TWIZ TV is a good source for episode transcripts
    • DVDs (subtitles, visual evidence, and behind-the-scenes material)
  2. Official comments from the producers:
  3. Other statements from producers, cast, and crew
  4. The SciFi channel and SkyOne websites

This list is an important guideline, but its order is not to be slavishly obeyed. If David Eick mentions offhand that Galactica is four inches long, but a reliable source from Zoic gives scaling information used in the visual effects sequences, deference should be given to Zoic's field of expertise. (This would also fall under the guideline of placing on-screen evidence before producer's commentary). Obvious gaffes and bloopers should also be ignored.

Where later comments contradict earlier ones, defer to the most recent statement and make a note at Continuity errors (RDM). An example of this is the size of the fleet, increased from 40 ships in the miniseries to 75 in the series. If the issue is not decisively settled, make a note at the bottom of the page (see Olympic Carrier#Notes for an example).

List of sites that are not good sources

  • Battlestar Wiki itself – This is important. If you read information here that you have not verified yourself, do not trust it.
  • Wikipedia – Where Wikipedia cites its own sources, it can be a useful guide. However, uncited assertions should not be trusted.
  • IMDB – IMDB has not demonstrated a rigorous standard of fact-checking.
  • Fan sites such as Battlestar Galactica Tech Manual, Colonial History, Galactica Station, TV.com where they do not themselves cite sources.
  • Anonymous sources, including those that cite an anonymous source. The validity of these sources cannot be verified without bias.

Our Weapons[edit]

Derived Content[edit]

Battlestar Wiki is an encyclopedia on works of fiction. As with all fiction, the characters, technology, events and other items in Battlestar Galactica are never fully explained or defined. Because of this, contributors are allowed to add material that helps in adding intriguing interpretation and explanation into an article's content, provided that the addition is based on logical or actual events, characters, and objects from official sources. We call this derived content. There are two forms contributors can use as appropriate: plausible speculation and logical deduction.

The plausible speculation method best works in filling the gaps of data on character motivation or plot direction based on the behaviors or motives expressed by any and all characters as appropriate. When done correctly, plausible speculations add "color" and insight to the article, as well as defining the article's content for readers who may not have realized a significance to the subject matter presented in the article.

Plausible speculation occurs when official sources on the subject are sparse, but substantially important events and results occur in the official sources that logical possibilities can be generated. Plausible speculations are highly fluid and subject to extreme editing as new official information occurs. Again, plausible explanations lend themselves best to character behaviors and motivations.

One significant example of an article that uses a great deal of plausible speculation is the article on Cylon agent speculation and Case Orange. For contributors of Original Series content, plausible speculation is all that can be drawn upon on since the Original Series and its spinoff have long ceased production, and there are very few official resources to consult or research.

The second method is logical deduction. The logical deduction approach differs from plausible speculation in that much more information is available from official content and sources to derive strongly supported article content, despite the fact that the subject matter per se may not be discussed in any one source, but over a series of sources. Logical deductions usually lend themselves best to explanations of technology, terminology or procedure, with technology that has been illustrated, although not fully explained.

The articles on Computers, Galactica (RDM), FTL, DRADIS and Science in the Re-imagined Series are good examples where logical deduction from sources gives greater insight and detail on a topic from the analysis of screenshots of displays, dialogue, scientific principles, and the like.

Remember: Using either plausible speculation or logical deduction methods require all contributors to cite credible official sources that support their speculation or deduction. Be sure to use footnote templates or the Sources namespace (see later sections) to add in the references that support your hypotheses.

It is also very important to note the subtle differences between logical or plausible interpretation of observed concepts and events of the show, and generating ideas of what you or other fans of the show believe has happened. Don't attempt to explain away a plot hole or mistake in the show with your own created idea that hasn't an official source. This mistake is known as fanwanking.

Footnote Templates[edit]

Battlestar Wiki supports the Cite.php script for the purpose of making footnotes where in-text citations become too cumbersome. This is the prefered way of citing sources. If you use this method, please make sure the <references/> tag is flanked like so: <div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>. In addistion to using the Cite.php script, all citations are to be in proper format. Citation templates have been imported from Wikipedia to help. Please review the template pages to understand how they are used. These templates should be placed within the <ref> tags.

In the past, we have used {{ref}} and {{note}} (imported from Wikipedia) for this purpose. They have no been removed from the system. Please see Cite.php script for examples on how to use the new tags.

We also have taken the liberty of adding {{citation needed}}, a template which does double duty by adding articles needing citations to the Articles requiring citations category as well as indicating which paragraph or sentence requires the citation.

Sources namespace[edit]

You can view all the sources here, Category:Sources.

The Sources: namespace exists to host primary source content. See Sources:Correspondence with Jose Perez for an example.

How to cite print sources[edit]

Print sources, such as "Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine" should be cited with a full MLA style citation in the footnote and, where possible, a brief and pertinent quote. See Saul Tigh#References for an example.

Our Missions[edit]

Articles needing sources[edit]

Category:Articles requiring citations provides a list of articles already tagged with {{citation needed}}.

Widespread misconceptions (aka "Fanon")[edit]

  • The RDM Galactica is not equipped with railguns (see link for firm evidence)
  • It has never been definitively stated that there are twelve Lords of Kobol.
  • The Re-imagined Series of Battlestar Galactica does not necessarily take place in the "future" relative to our present on Earth. Executive producer Ron Moore, as well as many of the cast and crew, consistently point out that the timeframe of the series is deliberately ambiguous, and could be set in the past, present, or future relative to Earth today.

Members[edit]

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  • Peter Farago 01:19, 29 September 2005 (EDT)
  • Spencerian 10:20, 29 September 2005 (EDT) (self-dubbed Lord of "It's Galactica not the Galactica" Corrections)
  • Day 21:49, 30 September 2005 (EDT)
    "Your episode citations go inside the period."
  • Ricimer 13 October, 2005 (EDT) - I tape and watch the reruns like a hawk; should get all of the names from the credits this time around.
  • BMS 17:45, 30 January 2006 (EST) I need to start citing my contribs, and I'll get right on that from here on
  • Fearpi 15:50, 11 February 2006 (EST)
  • CalculatinAvatar 11:21, 17 April 2006 (CDT)
  • Shane (T - C - E) 09:43, 27 July 2006 (CDT) - Template Updating Only
  • BklynBruzer 12:21, 3 October 2006 (CDT)