https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Catrope&feedformat=atomBattlestar Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T16:47:00ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.40.1https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Catrope&diff=204482User talk:Catrope2011-09-02T20:48:27Z<p>Catrope: Very very belated message box saying I'm gone</p>
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== Port wine finish ==<br />
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I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== SSH ==<br />
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I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.<br />
:There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run <code>chmod -R g+w hb</code> so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Will do. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Joe beat me to it. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Bots dir done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Clear to Commit ==<br />
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You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Theoretically, you ''could'' (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to ''all'' databases instead of just one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can see which tables are old [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout here]. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch [[Sine Qua Non]] with a couple of friends tonight :P --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems to only have one error: [[Special:MergeAccount]]. Is php missing something? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I noticed the [[Special:Allmessages]] error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so <code>chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki</code> should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at [[Special:Allmessages]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== AntiSpoof Extension ==<br />
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I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof] extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== global_group_permissions and global_user_groups ==<br />
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I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8<br />
You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== CentralAuth and globalgroup-permissions ==<br />
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I got CentralAuth working, but GlobalGroupPermissions is a nightmare to set up... how do you get it working?? All help will be '''much''' appreciated. Thanks, AC --[[User:Sunstar NW XP|Sunstar NW XP]] 21:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== German BSG Wiki ==<br />
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I need a little help with the edit counter on my profile; the german version of the "Family tree" templates and maybe more<br />
Can you help me? --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 20:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Catrope has not been around for a long time. :( I'll check it out though. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 05:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Someone_to_Watch_Over_Me&diff=174589Someone to Watch Over Me2009-03-01T21:37:11Z<p>Catrope: /* Analysis */ fixes</p>
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| US airdate=February 27, 2009 <ref>http://tv.ign.com/articles/920/920164p1.html</ref><br />
| CAN airdate=February 27, 2009<br />
| UK airdate=March 3, 2009<br />
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| prev=[[Deadlock]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
''[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] discovers a hidden musical ability that bears a mysterious significance to the final five Cylons, and her tune is found to have a connection with three-year-old human-Cylon hybrid [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]. The president authorizes [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]'s extradition from the Brig so she can stand trial for treason on the Cylon Base Ship.''<ref>http://www.locatetv.com/tv/battlestar-galactica/season-4/6118356</ref><br />
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== Summary ==<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
* [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]] do not appear in this episode. As with the previous episode, [[Lee Adama]] appears in only a couple of scenes.<br />
* "Someone To Watch Over Me" is the name of a song composed by George and Ira Gershwin, and featured in the musical Oh, Kay! A major theme of the song is the need to find love and acceptance. <br />
** There was also an episode of [[w:Star Trek: Voyager|Star Trek: Voyager]] named for the song, in which it is performed at the end by The Doctor.<br />
* Weeks have passed since the end of [[Gaeta's Mutiny|the mutiny]], as evidenced by [[Cottle]]'s comment about how long Anders' EKG readings have remained steady, and Starbuck's comment about how long she has repeated the same mission briefing.<br />
* Starbuck acknowledges her pilots that the mutiny has "thinned our numbers". This, combined with the apparent absence of pilots such as [[Margaret Edmonson]] and [[Diana Seelix]], confirms their involvement in the mutiny did not go unpunished, although exactly what that punishment is remains unknown.<br />
** In the Podcast for "[[Deadlock]]" RDM states that all the mutineers were imprisoned on the [[Astral Queen]].<br />
* After her apparent death in "[[Maelstrom]]", Kara's personal belongings were auctioned off. Helo has managed to get them all back for her. However, the only thing Kara is interested in is her father's music tape.<br />
* Some of the music played by the mysterious piano player is from the original series. [[Numian's 3rd Sonata]], Second Movement, is in fact from the opening dialogue of the classic series ("There are those who believe that life here, began out there..."). This is not the first time music from the original series has shown up (i.e. the [[Colonial Anthem]]), and lends to the idea that 'everything has happened before, and will happen again'.<br />
* The brand of toothpaste offered as a prize to the pilots is called "Felgercarb," a word used in the original series to mean "shit." In essence, Kara is offering the pilot who finds a new planet "shit toothpaste."<br />
* The collection of named [[Number Six]] models expands with the addition of Sonja, who becomes the first Cylon to be elected to the Fleet's reconstituted Quorum.<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
* The Cylons seem to have officially joined the Fleet as they now have the representation they wanted on the new Quorum in the form of a Six named Sonja. It is also confirmed that Cylon and Colonial pilots are performing joint [[CAP]]s.<br />
** This is most clearly seen when Athena staggers into the briefing room and Helo orders one of the Sixes to go get the medics, the Six unhesitatingly responds "Yes, Sir". Several Sixes are also seen attending Starbuck's "toothpaste briefing".<br />
** The rebel Cylon pilots do not appear to have been commissioned into the Colonial military, as they wear Cylon flight suits and none is addressed by rank.<br />
** The Sixes and Eights appear to use their model numbers as surnames, and are referred to and addressed as "Six" or "Eight". They do not yet appear to have been given individual call-signs.<br />
*It is very possible-but not certain-that the Cylon ability to recognize individual Cylons despite them looking exactly like each other (most of the time, the Sixes seem to have the most variants in hair color and use of makeup, both voluntary actions) relies on actually looking at the individual. In the lavatory where Sharon "Boomer" Valerii severely beats Sharon "Athena" Agathon, Athena initially mistook Boomer as a generic Eight when she saw her in the reflection of a mirror. It was after she stood up, turned around and looked directly at Boomer did Athena recognize her as Boomer. Admittedly however, it is possible that she would had recognized Boomer if she still only watched her in the reflection. Still, she said a full sentence while she looked at her in the mirror-"Great, I hope you are here to fix the fraken shower!"-but instantly recognized Boomer the exact moment she saw her directly and not reflected. Perhaps they also need to look the other Cylon square in the eyes, which is what Tyrol does in "[[Deadlock]]" before identifying Boomer.<br />
* It has been unclear whether Karl Agathon is still the [[Commander Air Group]] (CAG) of Galactica or Kara Thrace officially takes over the CAG as Agathon used to join important staff meetings with Adama & Tigh in previous episodes. However, this episode clearly shows that Thrace is now serving as the CAG of Galactica.<br />
* Ellen's escape from Cavil seems to have been orchestrated between him and Boomer in order to get Boomer on ''Galactica'' so she could kidnap Hera.<br />
* It would appear that while Cavil was willing to let Ellen go in order to obtain Hera, members of the [[Final Five]] are still of some value to him, as evidenced by Boomer's offer for Tyrol to go with her. (Although it remains possible that Boomer's feelings for Tyrol are geniune and she might have been trying to get Tyrol to leave Galactica to save him from a possible later attack. This is evidenced by her telling Tyrol her feelings are genuine, ''after'' he declines to go with her.)<br />
* The Final Five have the same [[Projection|projection]] ability as the Cylons they created, as previously shown on Earth in "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]". Tyrol is the first to be shown voluntarilly receiving a projection.<br />
*It is possible that Starbuck also has this ability and she projected the Piano Player beside her when she played a section of "All Along the Watchtower" from the drawing Hera made, which turned out to be musical notation. She, from her POV, was playing a long side of him but when Saul Tigh, Ellen Tigh, and Tory Foster confronted her about where she learned to play that music he was gone. Perhaps it was just standard human daydreaming, but it could had been projection. <br />
* Projections can include not just imaginary environments but also imaginary people, such as Boomer and Tyrol's "daughter" Dionne.<br />
* It also appears that projections might be a form of persistent environment -- similar to real-life virtual worlds such as [[w:Second Life|Second Life]], as Tyrol re-enters Boomer's projection after she escapes with Hera, as if expecting to find her and Dionne still in there.<br />
* ''Galactica'' is in very bad shape from the metal fatigue in the hull. It's so bad that Tyrol says that all the [[Cylon organic resin]] could do is buy a little more time, but not too much from the looks of it, and that the ship might only be capable of one more FTL jump, if that. The ship is dying of old age and abuse and there's nothing anyone can do save it completely. The damage Boomer created during her escape has no doubt worsened the ship's condition.<br />
*FTL jumps appear to create spatial distortion that can seriously strain a ships hull. Tigh expresses concern that a jump within the flight pod will seriously strain the internal integrity of the ship. Boomer's FTL jump eventually appears to cause a chain reaction of hull collapses along ''Galactica's'' port side, a side visibly weakened by Cylon attack, and suffering general ageing in the 50+ year old ship's structure.<br />
*The port side of ''Galactica'' which suffers damage in this episode has been seen specifically to suffer major stress before now- particularly during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] when it was mentioned that explosive decompressions were imminent in that section. That side of the ship also saw the port water tank blow out in [[Water]]-and though this seemed to be repaired it no doubt contributed to the area's hull stress.<br />
* Many individuals express fears of the damage an FTL jump can do to ''Galactica'', impying FTL jumps place serious strains on a ships hull–or even the hull of a ship nearby. This appears quite a new phenomenon in the canon of the show and was not mentioned in previous seasons, though it of course makes for a convenient plot conceit now. Before this ships have frequently been seen jumping and exiting a jump close to each other in the series with seemingly no ill effects. In the episode [[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]] the Hitei Kahn tylium ship jumped whilst surrounded by Raptors and Vipers and no ship seemed to suffer damage, although they were knocked back. Also some Fleet ships such as the [[Space Park]] have been seen to suffer serious hull damage but have continued to jump with the Fleet seemingly without incident.<br />
*Given that ''Galactica'' has jumped hundreds of times whilst damaged before now, it is not explained why no damage has occurred before given it is assumed damage will be guaranteed by an unplanned jump in this episode. In the miniseries ''Galactica'' suffered a nuke hit and yet jumped several times afterwards. Also despite falling through the atmosphere of New Caprica ''Galatica'' was able to execute an FTL jump despite the severe strains on the hull. Fears of FTL stress were not mentioned.<br />
** ''Galactica'' probably has been taking damage from multiple jumps over the years. It's just that the extent of that damage has not become apparent until now. <br />
* Adama has still not forgiven Boomer for shooting him.<br />
* Boomer has gone from being a conflicted sleeper agent to being a willing infiltrator and saboteur on ''Galactica''.<br />
* The Cylons want Boomer tried for treason, with execution being a possible outcome, because her actions are linked to the permanent deaths of thousands of Cylons. This parallels the Colonial Fleet's own desire to try [[Gaius Baltar]].<br />
* Boomer seduces [[Helo]] by pretending to be [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]]. This is ironic, as Athena originally seduced Helo on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]], by pretending to be Boomer.<br />
* Boomer's seduction of Helo - in the presence of Athena - may have been motivated by a desire to exact revenge on Athena for having effectively taken over her old life on ''Galactica''.<br />
* The Final Five, [[Hera Agathon]], and [[Kara Thrace]] are all somehow connected to each other by [[The Music]]. Also possibly connected via the song is Kara's [[Dreilide Thrace|mysterious father]].<br />
* The mysterious piano player is Kara's father, which can be concluded by his sudden disappearance and by the flashbacks with both Kara and her father playing the piano when she was little. These flashbacks mirror the exact same movements done by Captain Thrace and the piano player.<ref>http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=1598</ref><br />
* The title of the tape Kara receives back from Helo is "Dreilide Thrace Live at the Helice [[Opera House]]." Helice was the ancient Greek name <ref>http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/620003/Ursa-Major</ref> for the constellation [[w:Ursa Major|Ursa Major]] (the Great Bear). <i>Helice</i> in Greek means "to spin" or "to turn", and Ursa Major revolves around [[w:Polaris|Polaris]], the Pole Star. <br />
* Helice was also the name of a nymph in Greek mythology who nursed the infant [[Zeus]], along with another nymph, Melissa (which itself means "honey" or "honey bee". <ref>http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/UrsaMajor.html</ref> What, if any, reference this has to the series remains to be seen.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
* Is Boomer taking Hera to Cavil, and if so, is she of value to him in and of herself or will he ransom her for the Final Five to rebuild [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]]? Or is Boomer working alone or for a third party? ([[Someone to Watch Over Me#Official Statements|Answer]])<br />
* What was the note Boomer was writing down in her cell when she first sensed Tyrol watching her?<br />
* Is the Eight switched with Boomer by Tyrol dead, or merely injured? <br />
** Probably merely injured. It is doubtful Tyrol would have gone so far as to actually kill another Eight to save Boomer. Furthermore, if the Eight had been dead, Tyrol's trickery would have been discovered more quickly.<br />
* What is Roslin's physical status? <br />
* What connection is there between Roslin's collapse and Hera's kidnapping?<br />
* If Tyrol had gone with Boomer, would Cavil have opened his brain as he threatened to do with Ellen? <br />
* Did Boomer sleep with Helo merely to maintain her pretense, because she was attracted to him, or to intentionally hurt Athena? ([[Someone to Watch Over Me#Official Statements|Answer]])<br />
* What is the source of the "Slick" image Starbuck has been seeing? Is he a variation of Kara's Inner Leoben from "[[Maelstrom]]"?<br />
* How did Starbuck and Hera arrive at a piano version of the same [[The Music|melody]] originally played by Anders on a guitar on [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]? <br />
* Will Eight's idea of plugging Anders into the [[datastream]] lead anywhere? <br />
* Will Tyrol's involvement in Boomer's escape be figured out? Will he confess? <br />
** It will be difficult for him to deny involvement considering the presence of the unconscious Eight he substituted for Boomer in the brig.<br />
***That assumes the Eight can identify him as the one that attacked her in the work area. It was coal pitch black dark when he knocked her out. Still, the circumstance of him being the one to restore power to the Cell Area and knowing how hard he pleaded for Boomer's life makes him a natural suspect. What could convict him beyond doubt is if people on the hanger deck remember him helping "Athena"-as everyone thought at the time-with that large very heavy equipment box. It is known that Cylons can tell each other apart on sight despite them being indistinguishable to humans. If someone recalls that it could be used as proof positive that Tyrol was complicit in her escape, that he cannot plead truthful ignorance like Helo can when he thought Boomer was his wife and had sex with her. <br />
* If Tyrol's treachery does come to light, how will others react?<br />
* Do all the ships in the Fleet - regardless of their relative crew and passenger size - get to send representatives to the new Quorum? (This is similar to the situation the Framers of the United States Constitution faced when trying to decide if state representation in Congress should be based on individual state population or restricted to the same number of representatives per state).<br />
*If Jumping in very close proximity to a ship is a very dangerous thing to do then why then in [[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]] when the Tylium ship [[Hitei Kan]] jumped away form the intercepting and boarding Vipers nothing happened to them other than being upended? <br />
** It was dangerous for ''Galactica'' because of its failing structure. <br />
* Why was Sonja elected to represent the Cylons?<br />
** The Eights appear to be the most influencial leaders within the rebel Cylon society, and posess the most individuality. Caprica Six sowed the seeds of the Cylon Civil War, Natalie led the revolt, and Eights generally were in senior positions in the occupation governement of New Caprica.<br />
* Did Boomer intentionally jump so close to ''Galactica'' in order to further damage the already weakened ship? Is this a prelude to an attack on the Fleet by Cavil's forces?<br />
* Since Boomer was able to find the fleet, why doesn't Cavil just jump in and attack the fleet? Surely he has superior numbers. Is it merely because of fear of death, since they can no longer resurrect?<br />
* What is the current status of [[Caprica-Six]]?<br />
* Where did the piano in [[Joe's Bar]] come from?<br />
* Will the Helice Opera House have any connection to the visions of the [[Opera House]] shared by Roslin, [[Caprica-Six]], and Athena?<br />
* Was a Daniel model Kara Thrace's father? Making her a half-cylon and giving her abilities like resurrection and projection?<br />
* To what extent are the semi-sentient Raiders and Centurians integrated into the Colonial or allied military force?<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
*Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune interviews David Weddle and Bradley Thompson<ref>http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-starbuck-boomer-someone-to-watch-over-me-.html</ref>:<br />
**Boomer had a sick desire to strike out at Athena.<br />
**Boomer's escape with Ellen was staged so that she could kidnap Hera. She intended to just use the Chief, but their interactions did awaken feelings she thought were dead.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]<br />
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[S. Cottle]]<br />
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
* [[Roark Critchlow]] as [[Slick]]<br />
* [[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] as [[Hera Agathon]]<br />
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]<br />
* [[ Torrance Coombs]] as Lance Corporal [[C. Sellers]]<br />
* [[Ivan Cermak]] as Corporal [[D. Wallace]]<br />
* [[Curtis Caravaggio]] as [[Nathanson]]<br />
* [[Cherilynn Fulbright]] as [[Dionne]]<br />
* [[Patrick Gilmore]] as [[Rafferty]]<br />
* [[Samantha Caine]] as Off-duty Crew Person<br />
* [[Erika-Shaye Gair]] as Young [[Kara Thrace]]<br />
* [[Darcy Laurie]] as [[Dealino]]<br />
* [[Sonja Bennett]] as Specialist [[Marcie Brasko]]<br />
* [[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson]] (archive footage)<br />
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== References ==<br />
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| title= Blood on the Scales<br />
| season= 4<br />
| episode=14<br />
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| writer= [[Michael Angeli]] <ref name="battlestarsitrep">{{cite_web|url=http://galacticasitrep.blogspot.com/2008/05/angeli-also-rises.html|title=Angeli Also Rises|}}</ref><br />
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== Overview ==<br />
:''[[Felix Gaeta]]'s mutiny continues while Roslin finds refuge on the Cylon Basestar.''<br />
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== Summary ==<br />
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=== Teaser ===<br />
* Rebel marines led by [[Aaron Kelly]] storm the airlock and capture [[Admiral Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh]] both of whom were knocked out by a stun grenade.<br />
* Tigh recognizes Kelly and calls him "the brig rat." Kelly is visibly uneasy about all this.<br />
* Meanwhile, the [[Raptor]] with President [[Roslin]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] on board heads for the [[Basestar (RDM)#Rebel basestar|Basestar]].<br />
* A pair of Vipers, piloted by Narcho and Hotdog, pursue the Raptor. Hotdog, who is unaware of the mutiny on ''Galactica'', gets the Raptor in his sights, but doesn't fire. Instead he orders the Raptor to identify itself.<br />
* Narcho tells Hotdog to destroy the Raptor, but Hotdog continues to ask for the target's identification.<br />
* Roslin transmits a message from the Raptor saying that she is aboard the Raptor. [[Gage]] blocks the transmission, but not before Hotdog receives it.<br />
* [[Gaeta]], now in command of the CIC, contacts Hotdog and orders him to destroy the Raptor. When Hotdog continues to hold his fire, Narcho goes in and launches a pair of missiles at the Raptor.<br />
* The [[Eight]] piloting the Raptor successfully avoids the missiles, which hit the Basestar instead. The Raptor successfully docks at the Basestar.<br />
* Gaeta orders Colonel Tigh to be placed in the brig with the other Cylons, but orders Admiral Adama to be brought to the CIC.<br />
* On board the Basestar, the Cylons demand to know why they're being fired upon. Roslin explains the situation. Fearing that the government has been overthrown, the Cylons want to jump away from the Fleet. <br />
* Roslin insists that they give Adama a chance to retake ''Galactica''. Baltar points out that it's unlikely that Adama will win and that Gaeta and Zarek have the majority of support on ''Galactica''. Roslin counters that they've already seen evidence that not all of ''Galactica'''s crew support the mutiny.<br />
* Roslin tells the Cylons to move their ship into the middle of the Fleet, so that ''Galactica'' won't be able to fire upon them.<br />
* Back on ''Galactica'', Adama is brought to the CIC. Gaeta asks him to call Roslin and convince her to surrender.<br />
* Adama refuses and instead pulls off his admiral pins. He throws them to Gaeta and sarcastically tells Gaeta that he's the admiral now and to make the call himself.<br />
* Gaeta orders gun batteries to target the Basestar, but before they can do so, the Basestar moves into the middle of the Fleet. Gaeta calls off the attack and orders the Basestar to be quarantined. He also gives orders to prepare for [[Tom Zarek]]'s arrival.<br />
* Adama asks Gaeta if he's planning on shooting him. Gaeta gives no response.<br />
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=== Act 1 ===<br />
* ''[[Colonial One]]'' lands on ''Galactica'''s flight deck, with Zarek and the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]] on board.<br />
* Kelly, Narcho, [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]], [[Diana Seelix|Seelix]], and other rebels escort Zarek from the flight deck, while [[Lee Adama|Lee]] and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] watch, hidden behind some machinery. Once they are out of sight, Lee and Starbuck move on.<br />
* In a Raptor aboard the rebel Baseship, Roslin attempts to transmit a signal to anyone who will listen, without success.<br />
* In the holding cell, Hera looks with concern at Helo's head wound. Athena attempts to assure her that he will get better.<br />
* Caprica-Six nurses Tigh's ear, bleeding from the stun grenade.<br />
* Anders wonders aloud what Gaeta will do. Tigh quips, "In your case, cut off one of your frakking legs."<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta tells Zarek that he has "a net" over the Baseship, and thus Zarek did not need to bring the entire Quorum with him to ''Galactica''. Zarek replies that as long as Gaeta insists on having a trial for Adama, he wants the Quorum where he can keep an eye on them. Zarek says they need to move on, but Gaeta replies that before that can happen, people must answer for what they've done, beginning with Adama.<br />
* Tyrol continues to sneak through the corridors of ''Galactica'' unnoticed. On Deck D Corridor 2, he hears the sound of a door opening and runs for cover.<br />
* Hidden from view, Tyrol observes Kelly and two rebel marines escorting [[Romo Lampkin]] at gunpoint. Romo wonders if anyone will feed his dog.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Zarek reads the charges against Adama: treason, desertion, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and gross dereliction of duty. Zarek reminds him that the punishment for these crimes is death by firing squad. All the while, Adama glares at Gaeta.<br />
* Zarek tells Romo that the Admiral is entitled to a court martial, but they need a lawyer to handle his defense. Adama mutters, "They need a pimp."<br />
* Romo wonders why they are doing all of this. Gaeta replies, "For justice." Romo, considering the tone of the room, conjectures that if he should choose to pass on this "field trip for justice," that the two marines guarding him will instead use him for target practice. Zarek impatiently tells him to just do his job.<br />
* Zarek goes on to say that "Commander" Gaeta will represent the people, and that Zarek himself will be serving as judge. Romo wonders if they've run out of ship's captains. Gaeta replies that the captains are busy defending their ships against the Basestar Adama welcomed into the Fleet. "Shove it up your ass," Adama tells Gaeta pointedly.<br />
* Gaeta continues to argue with a mockingly defiant Adama. As the argument begins to escalate, Romo asks for a few minutes with Adama.<br />
* On the Basestar, Roslin continues to unsuccessfully try to use the Raptor's communication system to contact anyone, with the Cylons looking on. A Six remarks that they no longer have the protection of the Fleet, and the Viper patrols are becoming increasingly bold, firing into space, inviting the Cylons to react. Tory Foster tells the other Cylons that they should all talk.<br />
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol uses a crowbar to pry the cover off of a service tunnel, and crawls inside.<br />
* On ''Colonial One'', Zarek addresses the Quorum. As Zarek speaks in support of Gaeta's leadership of the military, the Quorum delegates are visibly concerned. Zarek tells the Quorum that he has brought them to ''Galactica'' to show Gaeta that the Quorum delegates are people who, "at the end of the day, still stand by your president." At this, the Quorum bursts into an excited discussion, which ends with [[Jacob Cantrell]] telling Zarek, "I think you should leave now, Mr. Vice President." The other delegates are in agreement.<br />
* Zarek walks out of the conference room in defeat. In the adjacent corridor, he tells two marines, "Shoot them." Zarek then tells Kelly to get Gaeta. Kelly walks away to the sounds of screams and gunfire. He is visibly disturbed by the sounds.<br />
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=== Act 2 ===<br />
* On ''Colonial One'', Gaeta looks in horror on the slain Quorum delegates, and angrily rebukes Zarek. Zarek reminds him that Gaeta began the coup, and that this is just another consequence of that. Gaeta is in disbelief, remarking that until now they had the truth on their side. Zarek tells him that the truth is told by whoever is left standing, and reminds him that Adama must be eliminated.<br />
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol continues to crawl through a cramped and dirty service tunnel.<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, Tory informs Roslin that the Cylons have decided to jump away to ensure their own survival. The Six tells Roslin that Gaeta will likely execute Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, and any of the others who oppose him, such as Kara, Helo, and Adama.<br />
* Roslin urges the Cylons to stay, reminding them that they have all made a habit out of beating the odds, particularly William Adama, and that when he returns to command, he will know who stuck with him and who ran.<br />
* Tyrol crawls out of the duct into an empty munitions locker, where he is met at gunpoint by Kelly. Tyrol notes that the rebels sprang him from the brig.<br />
* Kelly tells him to get out of the duct, but Tyrol says that he is too tired and that Kelly should just shoot him. Kelly replies that he's a machine, to which Tyrol replies that Kelly is a "dumbass." Kelly and Tyrol both begin laughing at this, and Kelly lowers his rifle.<br />
* They both hear the sounds of gunfire in the distance. Kelly remarks, "This was a hell of a ship once." Tyrol agrees. Kelly tells Tyrol he heard his child wasn't a Cylon, and that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was "trouble." Tyrol laughs, saying it would not have mattered.<br />
* After collecting himself, Kelly again points his rifle at Tyrol, but when Tyrol braces himself for the shot, Kelly instead tells him to leave, yelling "Go on skinjob, go!" After Tyrol crawls back into the duct, Kelly berates himself.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Romo hands Adama a pen to sign a statement. Adama refuses, but Romo urges him to put his innocence on record, and to give his people time to retake the ship.<br />
* One of the rebels who was guarding the holding cell goes to the latrine, where Starbuck smashes his head into the wall.<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, a Six named Lida asks Baltar if he is injured. He replies that they typically use the word "damaged" instead of "injured."<br />
* In the corridor outside the holding cell, Lee and Starbuck argue over the best way to overpower the guards. Lee throws a grenade into their midst, and in the ensuing panic Lee and Starbuck gun them all down. Immediately after the last guard goes down, Starbuck ducks for cover, but an amused Lee nonchalantly walks to the thrown grenade and picks it back up. He tells Starbuck that he never pulled the pin, to which she states, "Not funny."<br />
* With the guards dispatched, Lee and Starbuck free the prisoners, but Lee is upset to learn that his father is not among them.<br />
* On their way out of the cell, Starbuck and Anders search the guards for weapons, but Lee tells them that they are quickly running out of time.<br />
* A rebel turns the corner and fires at Starbuck and Anders. Starbuck shoots the rebel in the chest, but not before Anders is struck by a bullet in the neck, causing him to stumble.<br />
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=== Act 3 ===<br />
* While Lee covers them, Starbuck looks after a wounded Anders. Sounds of yelling and gunfire indicate that there is fighting nearby. Lee insists that they need to leave.<br />
* Tigh tells Caprica-Six to take Hera to Baltar's followers for safety, as "no one wants to go near those nutjobs." She insists she can take care of herself.<br />
* Lee yells for Tigh to help him get Anders off the ground, but Starbuck tells Lee to go after his father instead. Athena and the others go with Lee and Tigh, while Starbuck stays with an incoherent Anders.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, the "court martial" proceeds apace, with Gaeta arguing that Adama deserted them on New Caprica. Romo objects, saying Gaeta is badgering the witness. Not surprisingly, his objection goes unheard by Zarek.<br />
* As Adama continues to mock Gaeta, Zarek receives a call telling him that Tigh and the other "skinjobs" escaped. Zarek tells Adama and the others that Tigh was killed trying to escape. At the news of his longtime friend's death, Adama shows the first signs of emotion, and tells Gaeta that he is not answering any more of his questions.<br />
* Zarek declares the prisoner guilty as charged, upsetting Romo, who says, "This isn't a trial, this is an asylum." Zarek angrily grabs Romo and pushes him against the bulkhead.<br />
* Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, prompting a smile from Adama and looks of concern from everyone else. Roslin announces that Gaeta took command of ''Galactica'' by force, and that the Cylons were merely defending themselves when they moved the baseship into the Fleet. She then commands the Fleet ships to power down their FTL drives.<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, Roslin exclaims that their signal could not be jammed. Behind her, a [[Number Two|Leoben]] is leaning on a device with flashing red lights, to which the Raptor's comm system is presumably connected. "I thought this would do the trick," he says with a grin.<br />
* Back on ''Galactica'', Starbuck slowly drags an unconscious Anders a short distance before falling on the floor, exhausted. [[Parr]], the rebel marine escorting a bound Romo, happens upon them, commanding Starbuck to show him her hands. Romo readies his pen. Starbuck draws her sidearm and pulls the trigger, but the weapon is empty. Seizing his opportunity, Romo stabs his captor in the neck repeatedly with his pen. After removing his restraints, he retrieves his sunglasses and a sidearm from the fallen guard.<br />
* Starbuck implores Romo to help her get Anders to Dr. Cottle, but Romo refuses, citing the fact that on the way there, he and his "friend" had already been shot at twice, once by his own men. Further considering the situation, an obviously conflicted Romo chooses to turn around and help.<br />
* In CIC, Gage informs Gaeta that ten of the thirty-five ships remaining in the Fleet shut down their FTL drives after Roslin's announcement. Narcho is upset, but Gaeta tells him that Roslin did them a favor in exposing those ships who would cause them trouble. Gaeta tells Gage to give jump coordinates only to those ships that kept their FTL drives online, and to order them to jump immediately.<br />
* Gaeta then tells Narcho to assemble an execution detail comprised of men he can trust, to secure the main hangar bay launch tube, and to take Adama down there and await further orders. Narcho shows some reluctance, but he insists that Gaeta can count on him "all down the line."<br />
* Gaeta asks Zarek, who is waiting nearby, if he is spying on him. Zarek insists that they simply need to get through the current predicament, and move on.<br />
* In a corridor somewhere on ''Galactica'', Narcho leads a team of six rebel marines who are escorting Adama to the launch tube, with Kelly walking behind the group. After some consideration, Kelly breaks off from the group and goes to the [[memorial hallway]], where he drops his rifle and breaks down in tears.<br />
* In a nearby corridor, Tigh and Athena keep watch while Lee opens a service panel and disconnects a power line, causing the main lights to go out. Sounds of gunfire indicate there is still heavy fighting nearby.<br />
* Tyrol continues to crawl through service tubes, this time crawling behind a latrine. He coughs and gags at the smell.<br />
* In the memorial hallway, Lee confronts Kelly, who is nearly catatonic with grief. He finally admits to Lee that the others are planning on executing Adama in the main launch tube. Lee moves to punch Kelly, but Tigh pulls him away. As they run to the hangar deck, Kelly picks up his rifle and runs after them, yelling, "I'm coming with you!"<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, Baltar dreams of Adama's death by firing squad, which wakes him violently. In bed with him, Lida attempts to comfort him, but Baltar rebuffs her, saying that he has run for his life yet again. She tells him that fear makes people act differently, but he says that he did not run out of fear this time.<br />
* For the first time, Baltar admits that he is merely playing the role of religious leader to humor his followers, and that he privately scorns their "provincial intellects" and their unfailing willingness to make him feel better; however, he also admits that he feels responsible for them, and that he must go back.<br />
* On the hangar deck, Adama is tied to a chair in the main launch tube by a marine while Narcho stands nearby, distressed. As Narcho walks towards the eight marines with rifles at the ready, Adama spits.<br />
* From the rebel Baseship, Roslin gives the rebels five minutes to return command to Admiral Adama.<br />
* In CIC, an increasingly concerned Zarek listens to Roslin's ultimatum, and looks around for Gaeta, who is absent.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta walks to Adama's desk, where he drops the admiral pins on ''Galactica'''s watch log. He then calls Narcho, telling him to carry out the execution.<br />
* On the hangar deck, Narcho replies, "Yes, sir," and hangs up with Tigh pointing a sidearm at his head. Meanwhile, Lee unties his father from the chair in the launch tube, and Kelly and Athena have their rifles pointed at eight marines, all disarmed and kneeling with hands behind their heads.<br />
* Adama is overjoyed to see Tigh, who he was told was dead. Tigh replies that for a while, he was.<br />
* Adama addresses the kneeling, disarmed marines, saying, "I'm gonna take back my ship." Adama then addresses Narcho, who tells him that while he has always respected him, he hates the Cylons, and he cannot take orders from a leader who won't fight them. At this, Tigh raises his weapon to Narcho's head, but Adama orders him to stand down, and orders Narcho to be tied up instead.<br />
* Sitting at Adama's desk, Gaeta removes his prosthesis and scratches the stump underneath.<br />
* Deep in the bowels of ''Galactica'', Tyrol finally has enough room to crouch rather than crawl, allowing him to move faster.<br />
* In CIC, Zarek orders Vireem to pass him through to Roslin. As Gaeta walks into CIC, Zarek addresses Roslin on the rebel Baseship, introducing himself as the President of the Twelve Colonies. He announces that Tigh was killed in an escape attempt, and that Adama was tried, found guilty of his crimes, and was executed by firing squad earlier that morning. Zarek insists that Roslin think of the welfare of the people of the Fleet, and surrender.<br />
* Roslin vehemently refuses, vowing to use every weapon at her disposal to come after Zarek and the other mutineers. The weapon emplacements on the Baseship open, targeting ''Galactica''.<br />
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=== Act 4 ===<br />
* In CIC, after Zarek's statements to Roslin, Gaeta remarks that now they have a military leader and a president in one. Zarek questions how Gaeta would have handled the situation, had he been there.<br />
* Gage indicates that the Baseship is arming itself, and that they are jump ready. Gaeta orders the board be set to green, and a crew member inserts the FTL key at gunpoint.<br />
* Tyrol rushes down a set of stairs in ''Galactica'''s FTL engine room.<br />
* Adama marches towards CIC, leading an increasingly large group of marines, officers, and enlisted crew.<br />
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol breaks open the door to the auxiliary control station, and attempts to shut down the FTL drive with his command code.<br />
* As Adama and his group of loyalists continue their march to CIC, Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, commanding ''Galactica'' to surrender.<br />
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol's command code is denied (as he is not currently in active duty). Instead he looks to some nearby machinery and, with some effort, removes a vital component and shuts down the FTL drive.<br />
* In CIC, Gage announces the FTL drive's shutdown. Zarek begins ordering crew members to look into it, but no one moves. He tells Gaeta to launch Vipers to defend themselves, but Gaeta ignores him, and instead recalls his own words: "One day soon there's gonna be a reckoning."<br />
* Gage announces that gun batteries have fixed target bearings and are ready to fire. With Zarek at a near-panic, Gaeta realizes they are defeated, and orders a weapons hold.<br />
* Adama arms himself with the sidearm from a nearby marine, and the group storms CIC. No resistance is offered by the mutineers.<br />
* Adama gets on the wireless, identifies himself, confirms that he has retaken command, and tells Roslin to stand down. Roslin, Baltar, and even the Cylons are relieved to hear his voice.<br />
* Zarek, Gaeta, and the other mutineers are taken away at gunpoint.<br />
* In the FTL engine room, an exhausted Tyrol drops the component as the massive FTL drive slowly come to a halt. As he turns to the bulkhead, he notices some significant structural damage which concerns him greatly.<br />
* On ''Galactica'', Roslin climbs down a ladder and, seeing Adama alive for the first time since she boarded the Raptor, cries tears of joy. The two leaders walk together, his arm around her.<br />
* In Gaeta's quarters, Gaeta and Baltar are smoking cigarettes - something Gaeta has not been seen doing for quite some time. Gaeta is telling Baltar of the many careers he once dreamed of pursuing: architecture, medicine, engineering, photography, and finally, science.<br />
* Baltar, on the verge of tears, begins to say something, but Gaeta stops him. He assures Baltar that he is fine with the way things turned out, and that his only wish is that eventually, people realize who he is. Baltar tells Gaeta that he knows who he is.<br />
* Gaeta and Zarek are seated in the main launch tube of the hangar deck, with Adama, Lee, Tigh, and Baltar standing behind the firing squad.<br />
* Just before Adama orders the execution detail to fire, Gaeta looks down at his severed leg in astonishment and remarks, "It stopped."<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] were murdered on Zarek's order for supporting President Roslin. [[Lee Adama]] survived as he wasn't present during the Quorum session. Two other regular Quorum members (Gemenon Delegate and one other delegate) were replaced by temporary stand-ins (who were killed), and their fate is unknown.<br />
*Romo Lampkin while being forced to serve as Adama's lawyer during his trial he referred to two looming Marine guards as "Wynken and Blynken". This was in reference to the poem of ''[[Wikipedia:Wynken, Blynken, and Nod|Wynken, Blynken, and Nod]]'', a late 19th century Dutch child's lullaby by [[Wikipedia:Eugene Field|Eugene Field]] about three fishermen fishing in the starry night in the sky with the help of the moon and uses a magic wooden shoe as their boat.<ref>[http://www3.amherst.edu/~rjyanco94/literature/eugenefield/poems/poemsofchildhood/wynkenblynkenandnod.html Wynken, Blynken, and Nod" Lullaby]</ref> <br />
*This episode marks the death of Felix Gaeta and Tom Zarek, who are executed by firing squad for their mutiny against Adama and the government.<br />
*The character Captain Kelly was last seen during season 3 when he was arrested for his bombing and assassinations of Baltar's lawyers. His character has appeared intermittently since the show began and it is fitting that he would be a double-turn coat as he was part of the original senior staff and his love for Admiral Adama is proven to be stronger than his hatred for the Cylons.<br />
*The events depicted in "The Oath" and "Blood on the Scales" cover approximately nine hours: Tigh enters Adama's quarters at 0620 at the beginning of "The Oath", culminates with Gaeta seizing the CIC at 0922, and concludes with Adama and his loyalists retaking the CIC at 1532 in "Blood on the Scales". The executions of Gaeta and Zarek, however, take place at an unspecified time later.<br />
*The ship's FTL drive is seen for the first time.<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Despite all of the support that Gaeta and Zarek seemed to have at the beginning of the mutiny, Roslin and Adama had more support from people opposed to it and possibly people who rethought it like Kelly. On Roslin and Adama's side were ''Galactica's'' senior staff (the members of CIC were either people on Gaeta's side or forced to work at gunpoint by marines), at least most of the crew given how many people joined Adama's march to CIC, the Quorum of Twelve and the Cylons and Baltar's followers. Gaeta and Zarek had the supporters they'd managed to gather amongst ''Galactica's'' crew and about 25 ships who refused Roslin's order to stand down FTL drives. In the end Adama and Roslin were successful because the people supported them more and Adama had enough respect from his crew that he was able to turn a lot back to his side just by stating his intention to retake the ship and walking by others. Gaeta and Zarek had to use force to get what they wanted. Many people, both in support of Gaeta/Zarek and in opposition, were killed. Given the death count, 40 in the first four hours of the mutiny, from 06:32 hours when Zarek was released from the Brig to sometime after 10:30 hours when Adama and Tigh are captured in the stowage bay (with most of the killing starting shortly after 09:02 hours after Capt. [[Kara Thrace]] rescues Delegate [[Lee Adama]] in the Hanger Deck. [[Peter Laird]] was the very first death, occuring shortly before 07:00 hours.), the attack on those Loyal to Adama was vicious. The break down of mutineer and loyalist deaths hasn't been given yet, but it is most likely that most of these deaths were those loyal to Adama since Gaeta/Zarek forces had the elements of both surprise and preparation in their favor. The 40 figure only represents the deaths by the end of "[[The Oath]]", near the approximate halfway point of the mutiny at 10:30 hours. With the retaking of CIC by Adama and Tigh, the mutiny ended at 15:32 hours, approximately nine hours elapsed time (they may have been resisters after that time not wishing to be taken into custody). Mutiny death figures since 10:30 hours, including the murder of the Quorum delegates, will be reflected in the survivor population count after the teaser of "[[No Exit]]" unless otherwise indicated. <br />
*Gaeta's sudden lack of pain in his amputated leg signals that his chronic pain (which he tried to numb with painkillers during the webisodes) was partially psychological. Once he was at peace with who he was and what he had done, his mental pain and much of his physical pain and itching disappeared. His last words acknowledged that the irritation had stopped.<br />
*The marines who eventually joined Adama's side near the end of the episode indicates that other mutineers simply were part of the coup out of self-preservation or at least wanting to be on the "winning" side. Once it was clear that Adama and the senior staff were rising up and reclaiming the ship, the marines, and others finally arose as well.<br />
*By sparing Narcho's life, Admiral Adama characteristically shows his love and compassion for those who serve under him. Despite his speech of "no forgiveness" in "The Oath", it is clear that Adama will attempt to give the some of the mutineers a second chance. <br />
*From a pragmatic standpoint, Humanity, such at the verge of extinction anyways, can not afford to lose large numbers of people.<br />
*The mutineers at no point subdued all resistance aboard ''Galactica''. As Adama marched on CIC, many crew members rushed to join him, indicating that they were either still resisting or were waiting for a sign that the tide had turned. CIC also was controlled by Gaeta through the use of marines who held most of the staff at gunpoint.<br />
* Tyrol, while attempting to disable Galactica's jump drive notices odd tears in the hull near the FTL assembly. It is not known whether this was hull stress caused by Tyrol disabling the FTL as the ship was about to jump, or an as-yet unexplained problem that has an impact on Galactica's hull. <br />
**''Galactica'' may be suffering from serious long term metal fatigue and/or cumulative battle damage, as evidenced by the bulkhead deformation Tyrol discovers in the FTL drive room. Over the course of the series, Tigh has made a number of comments on ''Galactica's'' worsening structural condition, especially in absence of any possibility for repair at a shipyard. The ship itself is 50+ years old and has seen combat in two wars against the Cylons, and after all the damage its taken - the [[Battle of New Caprica]] being the most obvious example - it is not all that surprising to see the ship's structural integrity begin to fail like this.<br />
** It is extremely unlikely that the damage witnessed by Tyrol was a result of his improper shut-down of the FTL, a tear of that size in metal would likely have been extremely loud and Tyrol does not notice the damage until he just happens to glance up at it. While it is possible that the FTL drive spun up would be louder than the sound of such a crack there is also no strong vibrations shown either in engineering or on the bridge, which would no doubt accompany such a large tear. Given that the area where Tyrol is an auxiliary control center, which is unlikely the be manned unless there is a problem with the FTL drives or for periodic maintenance, it is eminently possible that the tear has been there for some time since it has been quite some time since Galactica has been depicted as having FTL problem. However, as were are dealing with a device that can bend time and space, nothing can be completely discredited at this point.<br />
*Roslin threatens to attack ''Galactica'' if Gaeta and Zarek do not surrender. Numerous missile emplacements are then shown opening along the arms of the rebel basestar. Due to the known incompetence of ''Galactica's'' mutineer crew (Gage being unable to jam Roslin's transmission in [[The Oath]] without Gaeta's help), the chaos aboard ''Galactica'' with a mutiny still ongoing, and ''Galatica's'' status as an undermanned vessel, it is possible that the basestar could have successfully engaged and destroyed ''Galactica'' or at least severely damaged her enough to prevent her escaping.<br />
*Captain Kelly, after having been locked up in the brig for his attempts to assassinate Baltar's lawyers, still holds a deep love for the Galactica and her commander. As he was a part of the original senior leadership (3rd in command as shown after Adama's near-assassination), his nostalgic comments with Tyrol indicated his withering resolve to be part of the coup. In addition, being a witness to the cruelty of Zarek with the Quorum was probably the first catalyst for his repentance.<br />
*Gaeta, prior to his execution, is shown smoking and having drinks with Baltar. This is significant as Gaeta is rarely shown smoking during the show, and when it is shown, it was done when Gaeta finally felt free to be who he wanted to be. The first time was during his taped interview with D'Anna where he "let his hair down" so to speak. Incorporating a final smoke for Gaeta seemed appropriate to allow the audience to see a humanized Gaeta again.<br />
*Gaeta and Baltar have a civil conversation before Gaeta's execution indicating that the two have forgiven each other for thier past transgressions: Gaeta trying to kill Baltar and Baltar's involvement with the Cylons on New Caprica.<br />
*Baltar, despite admitting to not really liking his followers, has developed a sense of responsibility towards them as shown when he's speaking with [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]] about them and deciding to go back. This is the first time that Baltar has been shown to truly care about something besides himself indicating he may have changed somewhat.<br />
*Dialogue in this episode indicates there are 35 civilian ships left in the fleet. This is the first time since abandoning [[New Caprica]] that significant information on the number of ships left in the fleet has emerged. This number doesn't seem to tally with the observed losses in the fleet since the first season, although the number of ships has been portrayed inconsistently throughout the miniseries and the main seasons (a figure in the mid 70s being mentioned in [[Home, Part I]]). The figure of 35 stated here- indicating a loss of half the fleet's ships- seems somewhat inconsistent with a the human population that has only declined by about one fifth since the arrival of Pegasus's crew which bolstered the number of survivors to close to 50,000. Ships being abandoned on New Caprica or afterwards may explain this strikingly low number unless it is a continuity error. If 35 is a correct figure, the other ships in the fleet must have somehow found a way to take a huge number of extra people aboard.<br />
*Ronald D Moore has commented that ''Galactica'' is severely undermanned at this point and therefore large parts of the ship are empty, making it easier for mutineers and counter-mutineers to move around unobserved. This however is contracted by the fact that ''Galactica'' now has the crew of ''Pegasus'' aboard and the ship has in fact been seen to be overcrowded. Even allowing for losses on New Caprica and the fact that ''Pegasus'' was undermanned, the ship should still have a larger crew compliment than when she began her journey. In orbit around New Caprica the two ships still had over 2000 personnel still serving and doubtless most if not all former crew re-enlisted after the evacuation of New Caprica. Galactica's combined crew have not been seen to have taken any substantial losses since leaving New Caprica that would leave much of the ship empty. This may be a retcon or continuity error. It should be noted, however, that a large proportion of the people on the ship following the escape from New Caprica were civilians who may have since been relocated. Furthermore, it may be that only certain areas of the ship - such as the living quarters - are overcrowded. The exact number of personnel that a fully manned ''Galactica'' should have is unknown.<br />
*Despite [[Sharon Agathon]]'s vision-induced paranoia of a Six taking her daughter, [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]<ref>Sharon kills [[Natalie]] in "[[Sine Qua Non]]" when she sees the latter with Hera in a corridor after Sharon, President Roslin, and Caprica-Six all have a vision of a Six absconding with Hera at the opera house.</ref>, she does not protest [[Caprica-Six]] carrying Hera while Sharon supports her injured husband, [[Karl Agathon|Karl]]. It must be remembered that it was Caprica Six who aided in the escape of Athena with Hera from the Baseship after she got Helo to kill her so she would resurrect on the Baseship and recover their daughter. Caprica Six killed [[Sharon Valerii]] ("Boomer", who later resurrected) after Valerii tried to kill Hera for rejecting her and then Caprica Six helped get both Athena and Hera off the Baseship. Ironically, Caprica Six is the only character who has been seen specifically committing infanticide (not counting Baltar's dream about Adama drowning Hera).<ref>Caprica-Six snaps a human infant's neck in her first scene in the [[Miniseries]].</ref> <br />
*Assuming the writers maintained their preference to mirror real-world military traditions, the firing squad assembled to execute Gaeta and Zarek would likely be composed of low-level mutineers who were treated with leniency and then required to seal their loyalty (and feelings of guilt) by executing their former conspirators.<br />
*It isn't clear whether Gaeta and Zarek were given any sort of trial before being executed. Given Adama and Roslin's preference (albeit sometimes waveringly so) for maintaining the rule of law, it would be surprising if the lead mutineers were just shot out of hand.<br />
* During Tyrol and Kelly's discussion in the arms locker, Kelly mentions that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was trouble, Tyrol's response "Thanks, it wouldn't have mattered", indicates that, even if he had known that Cally had been sleeping with Hot Dog, he would still have married her. This clearly indicates that Tyrol loved her, and the way in which he says it clearly indicates that he still does. This means that Tyrol's tirade against the Admiral after his wife's death was an act, possibly out of grief, possibly to get himself dismissed from the Deck Crew so he couldn't sabotage anything should he have any hidden programming.<br />
* The Cylons among the fleet are, collectively, more loyal to Roslin and Adama (and more willing to forgive past conflicts) than are the humans.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
* What will become of the other mutineers (Racetrack, Narcho, Seelix, etc)? Will Adama follow through with his promise of "no forgiveness"?<br />
* Will Kelly be allowed to resume his duties on Galactica?<br />
* Who will take over Gaeta's duties?<br />
* What repercussions will the Quorum's assassination have on the Fleet?<br />
* What is the significance of the damage Tyrol discovers in the engine room? Has it been there long, or is it a result of the improper shut down of the FTL drive? Do other areas of the ship show similar signs of damage?<br />
* Is the same structural deficiency present near the other FTL drive?<br />
* In the [[Miniseries]], Colonel Tigh tells Lt. Gaeta to "spin up FTL drives 1 and 2". Why did Tyrol's deactivation of one FTL drive stop Gaeta from ordering the other's use? Is the other FTL drive still functional?<br />
** The ship may need both FTL drives to make a proper jump.<br />
** Only one of the FTL drives damaged during [[Exodus, Part II]] may have been repaired.<br />
* Will Anders survive his injuries? Were Starbuck and Lampkin even successful in getting him to sickbay?<br />
* Will the rebel Cylons become less trusting of the humans as a result of this mutiny? Or will they be more inclined to trust certain humans, such as Roslin, since she managed to convince them to stay and follow her leadership? <br />
* What was that device Roslin and Leoben were using to communicate with the rest of the Fleet?<br />
* Why was Lee Adama - as opposed to Roslin - present at Zarek and Gaeta's execution?<br />
* What will be done to the 25 ships who did not obey Roslin's order to power down their FTL drives?<br />
* Will the FTL upgrades proceed once order has been brought back completely?<br />
* Will there be a faction that will attempt to portray Zarek or Gaeta as martyrs?<br />
* Will Helo survive his injuries?<br />
* How will Baltar's new-found sense of responsibility toward his flock change his behavior?<br />
* Will the Cylons' assistance of, and subordination to, President Roslin (and/or Colonial political leaders' fears of being associated with the failed coup d'état) secure them the citizenship and Quorum representation they seek?<br />
* Do the Articles of Colonization include pre-approval language for the joining of the fabled "13th Tribe", now known to be Cylons? Such is often the case of comparable federation constitutions; the United States' former [[wikipedia:Articles of Confederation|Articles of Confederation]] induded such language with respect to "Canada" (meaning Ontario) and Bermuda.<br />
* With Zarek dead and Lee Adama being the only surviving member of the Quorum (or one of the few surviving members, considering that two regular delegates were replaced by stand-ins), will he become the new Vice President?<br />
* Are ''Galactica'''s computers now networked?<br />
* With most of the Quorum dead, will Roslin and Adama use the attempted mutiny as a basis to declare martial law?<br />
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== Character Development ==<br />
*''In the [[Miniseries]] (in the teaser) the first time we see Lt. Felix Gaeta and then-Commander Adama, Gaeta was handing him routine reports-and also unknown to them the first indications of trouble-while he was practicing his public address on the occasion of ''Galactica'''s-and his-retirement. It is of note considering what we now know of what the unimaginable future had for them:'' <br />
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:'''Gaeta''': Morning, sir. (hands him messages) Com traffic from the midwatch.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' Morning. (re: messages) Anything interesting?<br />
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:'''Gaeta:''' Mostly housekeeping. Oh, there is one odd message we were copied on. (shows him the message) The one from Fleet headquarters. Courier officer's overdue coming back from Armistice station.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' Hm.<br />
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:'''Gaeta:''' They're asking for a status report on all FTL capable ships in case they need someone to jump out there tomorrow and see if his ship's had a mechanical problem.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' I think we're a little busy tomorrow, Mr. Gaeta. What do you think?<br />
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:'''Gaeta:''' (grins) Yes, sir. And may I also take this opportunity to say it's been both a pleasure and an honor to serve under you these past three years.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' Thank you, Mister Gaeta. The honor's been mine.<br />
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*It's also interesting to note that the first time Roslin and Leoben met, [[Flesh and Bone|he was trying to sabotage the fleet and she had him executed]], while in this episode they are seen cooperating and sharing a friendly moment. Although she may not realize-assuming it was-the same Leoben unit.<br />
== Official Statements == <br />
*[http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-gaeta-blood-scales-angeli.html Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune interviews Michael Angeli about the episode:], The Six who sleeps with Baltar on the baseship is named [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]].<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*'''''Tom Zarek''' delivers his ultimatum to '''Laura Roslin''''':<br />
:'''Zarek''': This is Tom Zarek, President of the Twelve Colonies. It's over, Laura. Saul Tigh was killed attempting to escape. Bill Adama was tried and found guilty of his crimes. A firing squad executed him this morning. It's done, Laura. You want to think about the people of this fleet now, and surrender.<br />
:'''Roslin''': No. Not now. Not ever. Do you hear me? I will use every cannon, every bomb, every bullet, every weapon I have down to my own eyeteeth to end you. I swear it!''' ''I'm coming for all of you!'''''<br />
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is disturbed by the sight of the slaughtered Quorum delegates:<br />
:'''Gaeta''': We--we had the truth on our side. Now . . . now . . .<br />
:'''Zarek''': The truth is told by whoever is left standing.<br />
*'''''Lee Adama''' has just thrown a grenade towards the marines guarding the Cylon Prisoners, allowing him and '''Kara Thrace''' to kill them, after which Kara takes cover and Lee looks at her both amused and pleased with himself:<br />
:'''Lee Adama''': ''walking forward and picking up the Grenade'' I never pulled the pin.<br />
:'''Kara Thrace''': Ok, that is not funny.<br />
:'''Lee Adama''': It would have been if you had thought of it.<br />
:'''Kara Thrace''': No, still not funny.<br />
*'''''Laura Roslin''''' broadcasting to the fleet:<br />
:'''Roslin''': This is President Laura Roslin speaking from the Cylon baseship. Felix Gaeta has seized ''Galactica'' by force. The Cylons were defending themselves. They will not harm you. I repeat, the Cylons will not harm you. I am asking all ships' captains not to jump. Do not jump! Shut down your FTL drives!<br />
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is about to be executed for his crimes:<br />
:'''Gaeta''': (referring to the pain from his lost leg) It stopped.<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]<br />
* [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
* [[Sebastian Spence]] as Lieutenant [[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]]<br />
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Costanza]]<br />
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]<br />
* [[Jennifer Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix|Diana "Hardball" Seelix]]<br />
* [[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]<br />
* [[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]]<br />
* [[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]]<br />
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Sergeant [[Allan Nowart]]<br />
* [[Alexandra Thomas]] as [[Hera Agathon]]<br />
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]] / [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
* [[Andrew McIlroy]] as [[Jacob Cantrell]]<br />
* [[Marilyn Norry]] as [[Reza Chronides]]<br />
* [[Judith Maxie]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Picon Delegate|Picon Delegate]]<br />
* [[Iris Paluly]] as Speaking Delegate [[Dahlia]]<br />
* [[Veena Sood]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Quorum Delegate|Quorum Delegate]]<br />
* [[Adrian Holmes]] as Marine [[Parr]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
:''[[Felix Gaeta]]'s mutiny continues while Roslin finds refuge on the Cylon Basestar.''<br />
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== Summary ==<br />
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=== Teaser ===<br />
* Rebel marines led by [[Aaron Kelly]] storm the airlock and capture [[Admiral Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh]] both of whom were knocked out by a stun grenade.<br />
* Tigh recognizes Kelly and calls him "the brig rat." Kelly is visibly uneasy about all this.<br />
* Meanwhile, the [[Raptor]] with President [[Roslin]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] on board heads for the [[Basestar (RDM)#Rebel basestar|Basestar]].<br />
* A pair of Vipers, piloted by Narcho and Hotdog, pursue the Raptor. Hotdog, who is unaware of the mutiny on ''Galactica'', gets the Raptor in his sights, but doesn't fire. Instead he orders the Raptor to identify itself.<br />
* Narcho tells Hotdog to destroy the Raptor, but Hotdog continues to ask for the target's identification.<br />
* Roslin transmits a message from the Raptor saying that she is aboard the Raptor. [[Gage]] blocks the transmission, but not before Hotdog receives it.<br />
* [[Gaeta]], now in command of the CIC, contacts Hotdog and orders him to destroy the Raptor. When Hotdog continues to hold his fire, Narcho goes in and launches a pair of missiles at the Raptor.<br />
* The [[Eight]] piloting the Raptor successfully avoids the missiles, which hit the Basestar instead. The Raptor successfully docks at the Basestar.<br />
* Gaeta orders Colonel Tigh to be placed in the brig with the other Cylons, but orders Admiral Adama to be brought to the CIC.<br />
* On board the Basestar, the Cylons demand to know why they're being fired upon. Roslin explains the situation. Fearing that the government has been overthrown, the Cylons want to jump away from the Fleet. <br />
* Roslin insists that they give Adama a chance to retake ''Galactica''. Baltar points out that it's unlikely that Adama will win and that Gaeta and Zarek have the majority of support on ''Galactica''. Roslin counters that they've already seen evidence that not all of ''Galactica'''s crew support the mutiny.<br />
* Roslin tells the Cylons to move their ship into the middle of the Fleet, so that ''Galactica'' won't be able to fire upon them.<br />
* Back on ''Galactica'', Adama is brought to the CIC. Gaeta asks him to call Roslin and convince her to surrender.<br />
* Adama refuses and instead pulls off his admiral pins. He throws them to Gaeta and sarcastically tells Gaeta that he's the admiral now and to make the call himself.<br />
* Gaeta orders gun batteries to target the Basestar, but before they can do so, the Basestar moves into the middle of the Fleet. Gaeta calls off the attack and orders the Basestar to be quarantined. He also gives orders to prepare for [[Tom Zarek]]'s arrival.<br />
* Adama asks Gaeta if he's planning on shooting him. Gaeta gives no response.<br />
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=== Act 1 ===<br />
* ''[[Colonial One]]'' lands on ''Galactica'''s flight deck, with Zarek and the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]] on board.<br />
* Kelly, Narcho, [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]], [[Diana Seelix|Seelix]], and other rebels escort Zarek from the flight deck, while [[Lee Adama|Lee]] and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] watch, hidden behind some machinery. Once they are out of sight, Lee and Starbuck move on.<br />
* In a Raptor aboard the rebel Baseship, Roslin attempts to transmit a signal to anyone who will listen, without success.<br />
* In the holding cell, Hera looks with concern at Helo's head wound. Athena attempts to assure her that he will get better.<br />
* Caprica-Six nurses Tigh's ear, bleeding from the stun grenade.<br />
* Anders wonders aloud what Gaeta will do. Tigh quips, "In your case, cut off one of your frakking legs."<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta tells Zarek that he has "a net" over the Baseship, and thus Zarek did not need to bring the entire Quorum with him to ''Galactica''. Zarek replies that as long as Gaeta insists on having a trial for Adama, he wants the Quorum where he can keep an eye on them. Zarek says they need to move on, but Gaeta replies that before that can happen, people must answer for what they've done, beginning with Adama.<br />
* Tyrol continues to sneak through the corridors of ''Galactica'' unnoticed. On Deck D Corridor 2, he hears the sound of a door opening and runs for cover.<br />
* Hidden from view, Tyrol observes Kelly and two rebel marines escorting [[Romo Lampkin]] at gunpoint. Romo wonders if anyone will feed his dog.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Zarek reads the charges against Adama: treason, desertion, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and gross dereliction of duty. Zarek reminds him that the punishment for these crimes is death by firing squad. All the while, Adama glares at Gaeta.<br />
* Zarek tells Romo that the Admiral is entitled to a court martial, but they need a lawyer to handle his defense. Adama mutters, "They need a pimp."<br />
* Romo wonders why they are doing all of this. Gaeta replies, "For justice." Romo, considering the tone of the room, conjectures that if he should choose to pass on this "field trip for justice," that the two marines guarding him will instead use him for target practice. Zarek impatiently tells him to just do his job.<br />
* Zarek goes on to say that "Commander" Gaeta will represent the people, and that Zarek himself will be serving as judge. Romo wonders if they've run out of ship's captains. Gaeta replies that the captains are busy defending their ships against the Basestar Adama welcomed into the Fleet. "Shove it up your ass," Adama tells Gaeta pointedly.<br />
* Gaeta continues to argue with a mockingly defiant Adama. As the argument begins to escalate, Romo asks for a few minutes with Adama.<br />
* On the Basestar, Roslin continues to unsuccessfully try to use the Raptor's communication system to contact anyone, with the Cylons looking on. A Six remarks that they no longer have the protection of the Fleet, and the Viper patrols are becoming increasingly bold, firing into space, inviting the Cylons to react. Tory Foster tells the other Cylons that they should all talk.<br />
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol uses a crowbar to pry the cover off of a service tunnel, and crawls inside.<br />
* On ''Colonial One'', Zarek addresses the Quorum. As Zarek speaks in support of Gaeta's leadership of the military, the Quorum delegates are visibly concerned. Zarek tells the Quorum that he has brought them to ''Galactica'' to show Gaeta that the Quorum delegates are people who, "at the end of the day, still stand by your president." At this, the Quorum bursts into an excited discussion, which ends with [[Jacob Cantrell]] telling Zarek, "I think you should leave now, Mr. Vice President." The other delegates are in agreement.<br />
* Zarek walks out of the conference room in defeat. In the adjacent corridor, he tells two marines, "Shoot them." Zarek then tells Kelly to get Gaeta. Kelly walks away to the sounds of screams and gunfire. He is visibly disturbed by the sounds.<br />
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=== Act 2 ===<br />
* On ''Colonial One'', Gaeta looks in horror on the slain Quorum delegates, and angrily rebukes Zarek. Zarek reminds him that Gaeta began the coup, and that this is just another consequence of that. Gaeta is in disbelief, remarking that until now they had the truth on their side. Zarek tells him that the truth is told by whoever is left standing, and reminds him that Adama must be eliminated.<br />
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol continues to crawl through a cramped and dirty service tunnel.<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, Tory informs Roslin that the Cylons have decided to jump away to ensure their own survival. The Six tells Roslin that Gaeta will likely execute Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, and any of the others who oppose him, such as Kara, Helo, and Adama.<br />
* Roslin urges the Cylons to stay, reminding them that they have all made a habit out of beating the odds, particularly William Adama, and that when he returns to command, he will know who stuck with him and who ran.<br />
* Tyrol crawls out of the duct into an empty munitions locker, where he is met at gunpoint by Kelly. Tyrol notes that the rebels sprang him from the brig.<br />
* Kelly tells him to get out of the duct, but Tyrol says that he is too tired and that Kelly should just shoot him. Kelly replies that he's a machine, to which Tyrol replies that Kelly is a "dumbass." Kelly and Tyrol both begin laughing at this, and Kelly lowers his rifle.<br />
* They both hear the sounds of gunfire in the distance. Kelly remarks, "This was a hell of a ship once." Tyrol agrees. Kelly tells Tyrol he heard his child wasn't a Cylon, and that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was "trouble." Tyrol laughs, saying it would not have mattered.<br />
* After collecting himself, Kelly again points his rifle at Tyrol, but when Tyrol braces himself for the shot, Kelly instead tells him to leave, yelling "Go on skinjob, go!" After Tyrol crawls back into the duct, Kelly berates himself.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Romo hands Adama a pen to sign a statement. Adama refuses, but Romo urges him to put his innocence on record, and to give his people time to retake the ship.<br />
* One of the rebels who was guarding the holding cell goes to the latrine, where Starbuck smashes his head into the wall.<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, a Six named Lida asks Baltar if he is injured. He replies that they typically use the word "damaged" instead of "injured."<br />
* In the corridor outside the holding cell, Lee and Starbuck argue over the best way to overpower the guards. Lee throws a grenade into their midst, and in the ensuing panic Lee and Starbuck gun them all down. Immediately after the last guard goes down, Starbuck ducks for cover, but an amused Lee nonchalantly walks to the thrown grenade and picks it back up. He tells Starbuck that he never pulled the pin, to which she states, "Not funny."<br />
* With the guards dispatched, Lee and Starbuck free the prisoners, but Lee is upset to learn that his father is not among them.<br />
* On their way out of the cell, Starbuck and Anders search the guards for weapons, but Lee tells them that they are quickly running out of time.<br />
* A rebel turns the corner and fires at Starbuck and Anders. Starbuck shoots the rebel in the chest, but not before Anders is struck by a bullet in the neck, causing him to stumble.<br />
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=== Act 3 ===<br />
* While Lee covers them, Starbuck looks after a wounded Anders. Sounds of yelling and gunfire indicate that there is fighting nearby. Lee insists that they need to leave.<br />
* Tigh tells Caprica-Six to take Hera to Baltar's followers for safety, as "no one wants to go near those nutjobs." She insists she can take care of herself.<br />
* Lee yells for Tigh to help him get Anders off the ground, but Starbuck tells Lee to go after his father instead. Athena and the others go with Lee and Tigh, while Starbuck stays with an incoherent Anders.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, the "court martial" proceeds apace, with Gaeta arguing that Adama deserted them on New Caprica. Romo objects, saying Gaeta is badgering the witness. Not surprisingly, his objection goes unheard by Zarek.<br />
* As Adama continues to mock Gaeta, Zarek receives a call telling him that Tigh and the other "skinjobs" escaped. Zarek tells Adama and the others that Tigh was killed trying to escape. At the news of his longtime friend's death, Adama shows the first signs of emotion, and tells Gaeta that he is not answering any more of his questions.<br />
* Zarek declares the prisoner guilty as charged, upsetting Romo, who says, "This isn't a trial, this is an asylum." Zarek angrily grabs Romo and pushes him against the bulkhead.<br />
* Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, prompting a smile from Adama and looks of concern from everyone else. Roslin announces that Gaeta took command of ''Galactica'' by force, and that the Cylons were merely defending themselves when they moved the baseship into the Fleet. She then commands the Fleet ships to power down their FTL drives.<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, Roslin exclaims that their signal could not be jammed. Behind her, a [[Number Two|Leoben]] is leaning on a device with flashing red lights, to which the Raptor's comm system is presumably connected. "I thought this would do the trick," he says with a grin.<br />
* Back on ''Galactica'', Starbuck slowly drags an unconscious Anders a short distance before falling on the floor, exhausted. [[Parr]], the rebel marine escorting a bound Romo, happens upon them, commanding Starbuck to show him her hands. Romo readies his pen. Starbuck draws her sidearm and pulls the trigger, but the weapon is empty. Seizing his opportunity, Romo stabs his captor in the neck repeatedly with his pen. After removing his restraints, he retrieves his sunglasses and a sidearm from the fallen guard.<br />
* Starbuck implores Romo to help her get Anders to Dr. Cottle, but Romo refuses, citing the fact that on the way there, he and his "friend" had already been shot at twice, once by his own men. Further considering the situation, an obviously conflicted Romo chooses to turn around and help.<br />
* In CIC, Gage informs Gaeta that ten of the thirty-five ships remaining in the Fleet shut down their FTL drives after Roslin's announcement. Narcho is upset, but Gaeta tells him that Roslin did them a favor in exposing those ships who would cause them trouble. Gaeta tells Gage to give jump coordinates only to those ships that kept their FTL drives online, and to order them to jump immediately.<br />
* Gaeta then tells Narcho to assemble an execution detail comprised of men he can trust, to secure the main hangar bay launch tube, and to take Adama down there and await further orders. Narcho shows some reluctance, but he insists that Gaeta can count on him "all down the line."<br />
* Gaeta asks Zarek, who is waiting nearby, if he is spying on him. Zarek insists that they simply need to get through the current predicament, and move on.<br />
* In a corridor somewhere on ''Galactica'', Narcho leads a team of six rebel marines who are escorting Adama to the launch tube, with Kelly walking behind the group. After some consideration, Kelly breaks off from the group and goes to the [[memorial hallway]], where he drops his rifle and breaks down in tears.<br />
* In a nearby corridor, Tigh and Athena keep watch while Lee opens a service panel and disconnects a power line, causing the main lights to go out. Sounds of gunfire indicate there is still heavy fighting nearby.<br />
* Tyrol continues to crawl through service tubes, this time crawling behind a latrine. He coughs and gags at the smell.<br />
* In the memorial hallway, Lee confronts Kelly, who is nearly catatonic with grief. He finally admits to Lee that the others are planning on executing Adama in the main launch tube. Lee moves to punch Kelly, but Tigh pulls him away. As they run to the hangar deck, Kelly picks up his rifle and runs after them, yelling, "I'm coming with you!"<br />
* On the rebel Baseship, Baltar dreams of Adama's death by firing squad, which wakes him violently. In bed with him, Lida attempts to comfort him, but Baltar rebuffs her, saying that he has run for his life yet again. She tells him that fear makes people act differently, but he says that he did not run out of fear this time.<br />
* For the first time, Baltar admits that he is merely playing the role of religious leader to humor his followers, and that he privately scorns their "provincial intellects" and their unfailing willingness to make him feel better; however, he also admits that he feels responsible for them, and that he must go back.<br />
* On the hangar deck, Adama is tied to a chair in the main launch tube by a marine while Narcho stands nearby, distressed. As Narcho walks towards the eight marines with rifles at the ready, Adama spits.<br />
* From the rebel Baseship, Roslin gives the rebels five minutes to return command to Admiral Adama.<br />
* In CIC, an increasingly concerned Zarek listens to Roslin's ultimatum, and looks around for Gaeta, who is absent.<br />
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta walks to Adama's desk, where he drops the admiral pins on ''Galactica'''s watch log. He then calls Narcho, telling him to carry out the execution.<br />
* On the hangar deck, Narcho replies, "Yes, sir," and hangs up with Tigh pointing a sidearm at his head. Meanwhile, Lee unties his father from the chair in the launch tube, and Kelly and Athena have their rifles pointed at eight marines, all disarmed and kneeling with hands behind their heads.<br />
* Adama is overjoyed to see Tigh, who he was told was dead. Tigh replies that for a while, he was.<br />
* Adama addresses the kneeling, disarmed marines, saying, "I'm gonna take back my ship." Adama then addresses Narcho, who tells him that while he has always respected him, he hates the Cylons, and he cannot take orders from a leader who won't fight them. At this, Tigh raises his weapon to Narcho's head, but Adama orders him to stand down, and orders Narcho to be tied up instead.<br />
* Sitting at Adama's desk, Gaeta removes his prosthesis and scratches the stump underneath.<br />
* Deep in the bowels of ''Galactica'', Tyrol finally has enough room to crouch rather than crawl, allowing him to move faster.<br />
* In CIC, Zarek orders Vireem to pass him through to Roslin. As Gaeta walks into CIC, Zarek addresses Roslin on the rebel Baseship, introducing himself as the President of the Twelve Colonies. He announces that Tigh was killed in an escape attempt, and that Adama was tried, found guilty of his crimes, and was executed by firing squad earlier that morning. Zarek insists that Roslin think of the welfare of the people of the Fleet, and surrender.<br />
* Roslin vehemently refuses, vowing to use every weapon at her disposal to come after Zarek and the other mutineers. The weapon emplacements on the Baseship open, targeting ''Galactica''.<br />
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=== Act 4 ===<br />
* In CIC, after Zarek's statements to Roslin, Gaeta remarks that now they have a military leader and a president in one. Zarek questions how Gaeta would have handled the situation, had he been there.<br />
* Gage indicates that the Baseship is arming itself, and that they are jump ready. Gaeta orders the board be set to green, and a crew member inserts the FTL key at gunpoint.<br />
* Tyrol rushes down a set of stairs in ''Galactica'''s FTL engine room.<br />
* Adama marches towards CIC, leading an increasingly large group of marines, officers, and enlisted crew.<br />
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol breaks open the door to the auxiliary control station, and attempts to shut down the FTL drive with his command code.<br />
* As Adama and his group of loyalists continue their march to CIC, Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, commanding ''Galactica'' to surrender.<br />
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol's command code is denied (as he is not currently in active duty). Instead he looks to some nearby machinery and, with some effort, removes a vital component and shuts down the FTL drive.<br />
* In CIC, Gage announces the FTL drive's shutdown. Zarek begins ordering crew members to look into it, but no one moves. He tells Gaeta to launch Vipers to defend themselves, but Gaeta ignores him, and instead recalls his own words: "One day soon there's gonna be a reckoning."<br />
* Gage announces that gun batteries have fixed target bearings and are ready to fire. With Zarek at a near-panic, Gaeta realizes they are defeated, and orders a weapons hold.<br />
* Adama arms himself with the sidearm from a nearby marine, and the group storms CIC. No resistance is offered by the mutineers.<br />
* Adama gets on the wireless, identifies himself, confirms that he has retaken command, and tells Roslin to stand down. Roslin, Baltar, and even the Cylons are relieved to hear his voice.<br />
* Zarek, Gaeta, and the other mutineers are taken away at gunpoint.<br />
* In the FTL engine room, an exhausted Tyrol drops the component as the massive FTL drive slowly come to a halt. As he turns to the bulkhead, he notices some significant structural damage which concerns him greatly.<br />
* On ''Galactica'', Roslin climbs down a ladder and, seeing Adama alive for the first time since she boarded the Raptor, cries tears of joy. The two leaders walk together, his arm around her.<br />
* In Gaeta's quarters, Gaeta and Baltar are smoking cigarettes - something Gaeta has not been seen doing for quite some time. Gaeta is telling Baltar of the many careers he once dreamed of pursuing: architecture, medicine, engineering, photography, and finally, science.<br />
* Baltar, on the verge of tears, begins to say something, but Gaeta stops him. He assures Baltar that he is fine with the way things turned out, and that his only wish is that eventually, people realize who he is. Baltar tells Gaeta that he knows who he is.<br />
* Gaeta and Zarek are seated in the main launch tube of the hangar deck, with Adama, Lee, Tigh, and Baltar standing behind the firing squad.<br />
* Just before Adama orders the execution detail to fire, Gaeta looks down at his severed leg in astonishment and remarks, "It stopped."<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] were murdered on Zarek's order for supporting President Roslin. [[Lee Adama]] survived as he wasn't present during the Quorum session. Two other regular Quorum members (Gemenon Delegate and one other delegate) were replaced by temporary stand-ins (who were killed), and their fate is unknown.<br />
*Romo Lampkin while being forced to serve as Adama's lawyer during his trial he referred to two looming Marine guards as "Wynken and Blynken". This was in reference to the poem of ''[[Wikipedia:Wynken, Blynken, and Nod|Wynken, Blynken, and Nod]]'', a late 19th century Dutch child's lullaby by [[Wikipedia:Eugene Field|Eugene Field]] about three fishermen fishing in the starry night in the sky with the help of the moon and uses a magic wooden shoe as their boat.<ref>[http://www3.amherst.edu/~rjyanco94/literature/eugenefield/poems/poemsofchildhood/wynkenblynkenandnod.html Wynken, Blynken, and Nod" Lullaby]</ref> <br />
*This episode marks the death of Felix Gaeta and Tom Zarek, who are executed by firing squad for their mutiny against Adama and the government.<br />
*The character Captain Kelly was last seen during season 3 when he was arrested for his bombing and assassinations of Baltar's lawyers. His character has appeared intermittently since the show began and it is fitting that he would be a double-turn coat as he was part of the original senior staff and his love for Admiral Adama is proven to be stronger than his hatred for the Cylons.<br />
*The events depicted in "The Oath" and "Blood on the Scales" cover approximately nine hours: Tigh enters Adama's quarters at 0620 at the beginning of "The Oath", culminates with Gaeta seizing the CIC at 0922, and concludes with Adama and his loyalists retaking the CIC at 1532 in "Blood on the Scales". The executions of Gaeta and Zarek, however, take place at an unspecified time later.<br />
*The ship's FTL drive is seen for the first time.<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Despite all of the support that Gaeta and Zarek seemed to have at the beginning of the mutiny, Roslin and Adama had more support from people opposed to it and possibly people who rethought it like Kelly. On Roslin and Adama's side were ''Galactica's'' senior staff (the members of CIC were either people on Gaeta's side or forced to work at gunpoint by marines), at least most of the crew given how many people joined Adama's march to CIC, the Quorum of Twelve and the Cylons and Baltar's followers. Gaeta and Zarek had the supporters they'd managed to gather amongst ''Galactica's'' crew and about 25 ships who refused Roslin's order to stand down FTL drives. In the end Adama and Roslin were successful because the people supported them more and Adama had enough respect from his crew that he was able to turn a lot back to his side just by stating his intention to retake the ship and walking by others. Gaeta and Zarek had to use force to get what they wanted. Many people, both in support of Gaeta/Zarek and in opposition, were killed. Given the death count, 40 in the first four hours of the mutiny, from 06:32 hours when Zarek was released from the Brig to sometime after 10:30 hours when Adama and Tigh are captured in the stowage bay (with most of the killing starting shortly after 09:02 hours after Capt. [[Kara Thrace]] rescues Delegate [[Lee Adama]] in the Hanger Deck. [[Peter Laird]] was the very first death, occuring shortly before 07:00 hours.), the attack on those Loyal to Adama was vicious. The break down of mutineer and loyalist deaths hasn't been given yet, but it is most likely that most of these deaths were those loyal to Adama since Gaeta/Zarek forces had the elements of both surprise and preparation in their favor. The 40 figure only represents the deaths by the end of "[[The Oath]]", near the approximate halfway point of the mutiny at 10:30 hours. With the retaking of CIC by Adama and Tigh, the mutiny ended at 15:32 hours, approximately nine hours elapsed time (they may have been resisters after that time not wishing to be taken into custody). Mutiny death figures since 10:30 hours, including the murder of the Quorum delegates, will be reflected in the survivor population count after the teaser of "[[No Exit]]" unless otherwise indicated. <br />
*Gaeta's sudden lack of pain in his amputated leg signals that his chronic pain (which he tried to numb with painkillers during the webisodes) was partially psychological. Once he was at peace with who he was and what he had done, his mental pain and much of his physical pain and itching disappeared. His last words acknowledged that the irritation had stopped.<br />
*The marines who eventually joined Adama's side near the end of the episode indicates that other mutineers simply were part of the coup out of self-preservation or at least wanting to be on the "winning" side. Once it was clear that Adama and the senior staff were rising up and reclaiming the ship, the marines, and others finally arose as well.<br />
*By sparing Narcho's life, Admiral Adama characteristically shows his love and compassion for those who serve under him. Despite his speech of "no forgiveness" in "The Oath", it is clear that Adama will attempt to give the some of the mutineers a second chance. <br />
*From a pragmatic standpoint, Humanity, such at the verge of extinction anyways, can not afford to lose large numbers of people.<br />
*The mutineers at no point subdued all resistance aboard ''Galactica''. As Adama marched on CIC, many crew members rushed to join him, indicating that they were either still resisting or were waiting for a sign that the tide had turned. CIC also was controlled by Gaeta through the use of marines who held most of the staff at gunpoint.<br />
* Tyrol, while attempting to disable Galactica's jump drive notices odd tears in the hull near the FTL assembly. It is not known whether this was hull stress caused by Tyrol disabling the FTL as the ship was about to jump, or an as-yet unexplained problem that has an impact on Galactica's hull. <br />
**''Galactica'' may be suffering from serious long term metal fatigue and/or cumulative battle damage, as evidenced by the bulkhead deformation Tyrol discovers in the FTL drive room. Over the course of the series, Tigh has made a number of comments on ''Galactica's'' worsening structural condition, especially in absence of any possibility for repair at a shipyard. The ship itself is 50+ years old and has seen combat in two wars against the Cylons, and after all the damage its taken - the [[Battle of New Caprica]] being the most obvious example - it is not all that surprising to see the ship's structural integrity begin to fail like this.<br />
** It is extremely unlikely that the damage witnessed by Tyrol was a result of his improper shut-down of the FTL, a tear of that size in metal would likely have been extremely loud and Tyrol does not notice the damage until he just happens to glance up at it. While it is possible that the FTL drive spun up would be louder than the sound of such a crack there is also no strong vibrations shown either in engineering or on the bridge, which would no doubt accompany such a large tear. Given that the area where Tyrol is an auxiliary control center, which is unlikely the be manned unless there is a problem with the FTL drives or for periodic maintenance, it is eminently possible that the tear has been there for some time since it has been quite some time since Galactica has been depicted as having FTL problem. However, as were are dealing with a device that can bend time and space, nothing can be completely discredited at this point.<br />
*Roslin threatens to attack ''Galactica'' if Gaeta and Zarek do not surrender. Numerous missile emplacements are then shown opening along the arms of the rebel basestar. Due to the known incompetence of ''Galactica's'' mutineer crew (Gage being unable to jam Roslin's transmission in [[The Oath]] without Gaeta's help), the chaos aboard ''Galactica'' with a mutiny still ongoing, and ''Galatica's'' status as an undermanned vessel, it is possible that the basestar could have successfully engaged and destroyed ''Galactica'' or at least severely damaged her enough to prevent her escaping.<br />
*Captain Kelly, after having been locked up in the brig for his attempts to assassinate Baltar's lawyers, still holds a deep love for the Galactica and her commander. As he was a part of the original senior leadership (3rd in command as shown after Adama's near-assassination), his nostalgic comments with Tyrol indicated his withering resolve to be part of the coup. In addition, being a witness to the cruelty of Zarek with the Quorum was probably the first catalyst for his repentance.<br />
*Gaeta, prior to his execution, is shown smoking and having drinks with Baltar. This is significant as Gaeta is rarely shown smoking during the show, and when it is shown, it was done when Gaeta finally felt free to be who he wanted to be. The first time was during his taped interview with D'Anna where he "let his hair down" so to speak. Incorporating a final smoke for Gaeta seemed appropriate to allow the audience to see a humanized Gaeta again.<br />
*Gaeta and Baltar have a civil conversation before Gaeta's execution indicating that the two have forgiven each other for thier past transgressions: Gaeta trying to kill Baltar and Baltar's involvement with the Cylons on New Caprica.<br />
*Baltar, despite admitting to not really liking his followers, has developed a sense of responsibility towards them as shown when he's speaking with [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]] about them and deciding to go back. This is the first time that Baltar has been shown to truly care about something besides himself indicating he may have changed somewhat.<br />
*Dialogue in this episode indicates there are 35 civilian ships left in the fleet. This is the first time since abandoning [[New Caprica]] that significant information on the number of ships left in the fleet has emerged. This number doesn't seem to tally with the observed losses in the fleet since the first season, although the number of ships has been portrayed inconsistently throughout the miniseries and the main seasons (a figure in the mid 70s being mentioned in [[Home, Part I]]). The figure of 35 stated here- indicating a loss of half the fleet's ships- seems somewhat inconsistent with a the human population that has only declined by about one fifth since the arrival of Pegasus's crew which bolstered the number of survivors to close to 50,000. Ships being abandoned on New Caprica or afterwards may explain this strikingly low number unless it is a continuity error. If 35 is a correct figure, the other ships in the fleet must have somehow found a way to take a huge number of extra people aboard.<br />
*Ronald D Moore has commented that ''Galactica'' is severely undermanned at this point and therefore large parts of the ship are empty, making it easier for mutineers and counter-mutineers to move around unobserved. This however is contracted by the fact that ''Galactica'' now has the crew of ''Pegasus'' aboard and the ship has in fact been seen to be overcrowded. Even allowing for losses on New Caprica and the fact that ''Pegasus'' was undermanned, the ship should still have a larger crew compliment than when she began her journey. In orbit around New Caprica the two ships still had over 2000 personnel still serving and doubtless most if not all former crew re-enlisted after the evacuation of New Caprica. Galactica's combined crew have not been seen to have taken any substantial losses since leaving New Caprica that would leave much of the ship empty. This may be a retcon or continuity error. It should be noted, however, that a large proportion of the people on the ship following the escape from New Caprica were civilians who may have since been relocated. Furthermore, it may be that only certain areas of the ship - such as the living quarters - are overcrowded. The exact number of personnel that a fully manned ''Galactica'' should have is unknown.<br />
*Despite [[Sharon Agathon]]'s vision-induced paranoia of a Six taking her daughter, [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]<ref>Sharon kills [[Natalie]] in "[[Sine Qua Non]]" when she sees the latter with Hera in a corridor after Sharon, President Roslin, and Caprica-Six all have a vision of a Six absconding with Hera at the opera house.</ref>, she does not protest [[Caprica-Six]] carrying Hera while Sharon supports her injured husband, [[Karl Agathon|Karl]]. It must be remembered that it was Caprica Six who aided in the escape of Athena with Hera from the Baseship after she got Helo to kill her so she would resurrect on the Baseship and recover their daughter. Caprica Six killed [[Sharon Valerii]] ("Boomer", who later resurrected) after Valerii tried to kill Hera for rejecting her and then Caprica Six helped get both Athena and Hera off the Baseship. Ironically, Caprica Six is the only character who has been seen specifically committing infanticide (not counting Baltar's dream about Adama drowning Hera).<ref>Caprica-Six snaps a human infant's neck in her first scene in the [[Miniseries]].</ref> <br />
*Assuming the writers maintained their preference to mirror real-world military traditions, the firing squad assembled to execute Gaeta and Zarek would likely be composed of low-level mutineers who were treated with leniency and then required to seal their loyalty (and feelings of guilt) by executing their former conspirators.<br />
*It isn't clear whether Gaeta and Zarek were given any sort of trial before being executed. Given Adama and Roslin's preference (albeit sometimes waveringly so) for maintaining the rule of law, it would be surprising if the lead mutineers were just shot out of hand.<br />
* During Tyrol and Kelly's discussion in the arms locker, Kelly mentions that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was trouble, Tyrol's response "Thanks, it wouldn't have mattered", indicates that, even if he had known that Cally had been sleeping with Hot Dog, he would still have married her. This clearly indicates that Tyrol loved her, and the way in which he says it clearly indicates that he still does. This means that Tyrol's tirade against the Admiral after his wife's death was an act, possibly out of grief, possibly to get himself dismissed from the Deck Crew so he couldn't sabotage anything should he have any hidden programming.<br />
* The Cylons among the fleet are, collectively, more loyal to Roslin and Adama (and more willing to forgive past conflicts) than are the humans.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
* What will become of the other mutineers (Racetrack, Narcho, Seelix, etc)? Will Adama follow through with his promise of "no forgiveness"?<br />
* Will Kelly be allowed to resume his duties on Galactica?<br />
* Who will take over Gaeta's duties?<br />
* What repercussions will the Quorum's assassination have on the Fleet?<br />
* What is the significance of the damage Tyrol discovers in the engine room? Has it been there long, or is it a result of the improper shut down of the FTL drive? Do other areas of the ship show similar signs of damage?<br />
* Is the same structural deficiency present near the other FTL drive?<br />
* In the [[Miniseries]], Colonel Tigh tells Lt. Gaeta to "spin up FTL drives 1 and 2". Why did Tyrol's deactivation of one FTL drive stop Gaeta from ordering the other's use? Is the other FTL drive still functional?<br />
** The ship may need both FTL drives to make a proper jump.<br />
** Only one of the FTL drives damaged during [[Exodus, Part II]] may have been repaired.<br />
* Will Anders survive his injuries? Were Starbuck and Lampkin even successful in getting him to sickbay?<br />
* Will the rebel Cylons become less trusting of the humans as a result of this mutiny? Or will they be more inclined to trust certain humans, such as Roslin, since she managed to convince them to stay and follow her leadership? <br />
* What was that device Roslin and Leoben were using to communicate with the rest of the Fleet?<br />
* Why was Lee Adama - as opposed to Roslin - present at Zarek and Gaeta's execution?<br />
* What will be done to the 25 ships who did not obey Roslin's order to power down their FTL drives?<br />
* Will the FTL upgrades proceed once order has been brought back completely?<br />
* Will there be a faction that will attempt to portray Zarek or Gaeta as martyrs?<br />
* Will Helo survive his injuries?<br />
** There is no reason to suppose that Helo is seriously injured, He was merely hit hard enough in the head to give him a concussion and for him to require medical treatment. Since the entire mutiny takes place in less than 9 hours that injury is more than enough to incapacitate him for the entire duration of the mutiny. Additionally, the wound likely looks worse than it actually is, since all head wounds bleed very badly, but he will likely need stitches.<br />
***Helo was hit in the head with a rifle butt twice in quick succession. From the looks of things he was out for around five hours (roughly from 9:10 to 13:30 hours). Head wounds of such force are '''''always''''' serious and not to be taken lightly. <br />
* How will Baltar's new-found sense of responsibility toward his flock change his behavior?<br />
* Will the Cylons' assistance of, and subordination to, President Roslin (and/or Colonial political leaders' fears of being associated with the failed coup d'état) secure them the citizenship and Quorum representation they seek?<br />
* Do the Articles of Colonization include pre-approval language for the joining of the fabled "13th Tribe", now known to be Cylons? Such is often the case of comparable federation constitutions; the United States' former [[wikipedia:Articles of Confederation|Articles of Confederation]] induded such language with respect to "Canada" (meaning Ontario) and Bermuda.<br />
* With Zarek dead and Lee Adama being the only surviving member of the Quorum (or one of the few surviving members, considering that two regular delegates were replaced by stand-ins), will he become the new Vice President?<br />
* Are ''Galactica'''s computers now networked?<br />
* With most of the Quorum dead, will Roslin and Adama use the attempted mutiny as a basis to declare martial law?<br />
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== Character Development ==<br />
*''In the [[Miniseries]] (in the teaser) the first time we see Lt. Felix Gaeta and then-Commander Adama, Gaeta was handing him routine reports-and also unknown to them the first indications of trouble-while he was practicing his public address on the occasion of ''Galactica'''s-and his-retirement. It is of note considering what we now know of what the unimaginable future had for them:'' <br />
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:'''Gaeta''': Morning, sir. (hands him messages) Com traffic from the midwatch.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' Morning. (re: messages) Anything interesting?<br />
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:'''Gaeta:''' Mostly housekeeping. Oh, there is one odd message we were copied on. (shows him the message) The one from Fleet headquarters. Courier officer's overdue coming back from Armistice station.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' Hm.<br />
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:'''Gaeta:''' They're asking for a status report on all FTL capable ships in case they need someone to jump out there tomorrow and see if his ship's had a mechanical problem.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' I think we're a little busy tomorrow, Mr. Gaeta. What do you think?<br />
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:'''Gaeta:''' (grins) Yes, sir. And may I also take this opportunity to say it's been both a pleasure and an honor to serve under you these past three years.<br />
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:'''Adama:''' Thank you, Mister Gaeta. The honor's been mine.<br />
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*It's also interesting to note that the first time Roslin and Leoben met, [[Flesh and Bone|he was trying to sabotage the fleet and she had him executed]], while in this episode they are seen cooperating and sharing a friendly moment. Although she may not realize-assuming it was-the same Leoben unit.<br />
== Official Statements == <br />
*[http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-gaeta-blood-scales-angeli.html Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune interviews Michael Angeli about the episode:], The Six who sleeps with Baltar on the baseship is named [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]].<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*'''''Tom Zarek''' delivers his ultimatum to '''Laura Roslin''''':<br />
:'''Zarek''': This is Tom Zarek, President of the Twelve Colonies. It's over, Laura. Saul Tigh was killed attempting to escape. Bill Adama was tried and found guilty of his crimes. A firing squad executed him this morning. It's done, Laura. You want to think about the people of this fleet now, and surrender.<br />
:'''Roslin''': No. Not now. Not ever. Do you hear me? I will use every cannon, every bomb, every bullet, every weapon I have down to my own eyeteeth to end you. I swear it!''' ''I'm coming for all of you!'''''<br />
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is disturbed by the sight of the slaughtered Quorum delegates:<br />
:'''Gaeta''': We--we had the truth on our side. Now . . . now . . .<br />
:'''Zarek''': The truth is told by whoever is left standing.<br />
*'''''Lee Adama''' has just thrown a grenade towards the marines guarding the Cylon Prisoners, allowing him and '''Kara Thrace''' to kill them, after which Kara takes cover and Lee looks at her both amused and pleased with himself:<br />
:'''Lee Adama''': ''walking forward and picking up the Grenade'' I never pulled the pin.<br />
:'''Kara Thrace''': Ok, that is not funny.<br />
:'''Lee Adama''': It would have been if you had thought of it.<br />
:'''Kara Thrace''': No, still not funny.<br />
*'''''Laura Roslin''''' broadcasting to the fleet:<br />
:'''Roslin''': This is President Laura Roslin speaking from the Cylon baseship. Felix Gaeta has seized ''Galactica'' by force. The Cylons were defending themselves. They will not harm you. I repeat, the Cylons will not harm you. I am asking all ships' captains not to jump. Do not jump! Shut down your FTL drives!<br />
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is about to be executed for his crimes:<br />
:'''Gaeta''': (referring to the pain from his lost leg) It stopped.<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]<br />
* [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
* [[Sebastian Spence]] as Lieutenant [[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]]<br />
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Costanza]]<br />
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]<br />
* [[Jennifer Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix|Diana "Hardball" Seelix]]<br />
* [[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]<br />
* [[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]]<br />
* [[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]]<br />
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Sergeant [[Allan Nowart]]<br />
* [[Alexandra Thomas]] as [[Hera Agathon]]<br />
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]] / [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
* [[Andrew McIlroy]] as [[Jacob Cantrell]]<br />
* [[Marilyn Norry]] as [[Reza Chronides]]<br />
* [[Judith Maxie]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Picon Delegate|Picon Delegate]]<br />
* [[Iris Paluly]] as Speaking Delegate [[Dahlia]]<br />
* [[Veena Sood]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Quorum Delegate|Quorum Delegate]]<br />
* [[Adrian Holmes]] as Marine [[Parr]]<br />
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== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Episodes written by Michael Angeli]]<br />
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== Port wine finish ==<br />
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I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== SSH ==<br />
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I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.<br />
:There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run <code>chmod -R g+w hb</code> so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Will do. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Joe beat me to it. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Bots dir done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Clear to Commit ==<br />
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You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Theoretically, you ''could'' (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to ''all'' databases instead of just one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can see which tables are old [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout here]. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch [[Sine Qua Non]] with a couple of friends tonight :P --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems to only have one error: [[Special:MergeAccount]]. Is php missing something? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I noticed the [[Special:Allmessages]] error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so <code>chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki</code> should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at [[Special:Allmessages]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== AntiSpoof Extension ==<br />
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I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof] extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== global_group_permissions and global_user_groups ==<br />
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I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8<br />
You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== CentralAuth and globalgroup-permissions ==<br />
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I got CentralAuth working, but GlobalGroupPermissions is a nightmare to set up... how do you get it working?? All help will be '''much''' appreciated. Thanks, AC --[[User:Sunstar NW XP|Sunstar NW XP]] 21:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Catrope&diff=166564User:Catrope2008-08-08T09:11:09Z<p>Catrope: going away again, correcting timezone</p>
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== Occupations ==<br />
* [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|BSG]]<br />
* [[Main Page|BSWiki]]<br />
* [[w:Piano|Piano]]<br />
* [[w:Badminton|Badminton]]<br />
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== Specialisms ==<br />
* Fixing spelling, grammar and style errors whenever I run into them.<br />
* Correcting factually wrong information whenever I run into it.<br />
* Cleaning up articles (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Transcribing and verifying [[BW:POD|podcasts]] (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Giving my opinion on talk pages.<br />
* Playing around with templates<br />
* Programming for MediaWiki, mostly the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new bot API].<br />
** I've [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditOwn also] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Imagetabs written] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Redircite some] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChangeAuthor extensions].<br />
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== Todo list ==<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:Frak Party Q and A|Frak Party Q&A podcast]].<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:A Day in the Life Bonus|bonus podcast]] for [[A Day in the Life]], not to mention the [[Podcast:The Son Also Rises Bonus|other]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I Bonus|bonus]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II Bonus|podcasts]].<br />
* Write a wiki bot that uses the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new MediaWiki API].<br />
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I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== SSH ==<br />
<br />
I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.<br />
:There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run <code>chmod -R g+w hb</code> so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Will do. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Joe beat me to it. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Bots dir done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Clear to Commit ==<br />
<br />
You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Theoretically, you ''could'' (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to ''all'' databases instead of just one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can see which tables are old [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout here]. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch [[Sine Qua Non]] with a couple of friends tonight :P --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems to only have one error: [[Special:MergeAccount]]. Is php missing something? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I noticed the [[Special:Allmessages]] error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so <code>chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki</code> should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at [[Special:Allmessages]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== AntiSpoof Extension ==<br />
<br />
I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof] extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== global_group_permissions and global_user_groups ==<br />
<br />
I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8<br />
You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=A_Measure_of_Salvation&diff=166465A Measure of Salvation2008-08-04T10:04:35Z<p>Catrope: So say we all is really just a catch-all religious phrase comparable with the real-world "Amen". The funeral link here is bogus</p>
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<div>{{Episode Data<br />
| title= A Measure of Salvation<br />
| image= Amos.jpg<br />
| season= 3<br />
| episode= 7<br />
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]<br />
| writer= [[Michael Angeli]]<br />
| story= <br />
| director= [[Bill Eagles]]<br />
| production= 307<br />
| rating=1.5<br />
| US airdate=2006-11-10<br />
| CAN airdate=2006-11-11<br />
| UK airdate=<br />
| dvd=<br />
| podcast=Y<br />
| population= 41420<br />
| oldpopulation= 41422<br />
| prev= [[Torn]]<br />
| next= [[Hero]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
:''[[Lee Adama]] and [[Sharon Agathon]] are dispatched to investigate the derelict [[basestar (RDM)|baseship]]. They find the [[humanoid Cylon]]s dying from a [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|virulent disease]], which inspires Lee Adama to come up with a desperate plan against [[Cylons (RDM)|their enemy]].''<br />
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== Summary ==<br />
=== On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' ===<br />
*A boarding party comprising of [[Raptor]]s and [[Viper Mark VII|Vipers]] investigate the derelict [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]. Among the boarding party are [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] and [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]].<br />
*Aboard the derelict, [[Marines]] explore the corridors, finding the [[Humanoid Cylon|Cylons]] dead. Athena attempts to access the derelict basestar's [[Hybrid]], but is unsuccessful.<br />
*Some Cylons around the control center revive and advise the boarding party of the situation regarding the probe and subsequent infection of the Cylons. One of the infected Cylons, a [[Number Eight]], addresses Athena as "traitor." <br />
*The boarding party and prisoners are en route back to ''Galactica'' when the basestar self-destructs.<br />
*''Galactica'' quarantines the boarding party and prisoners while Dr. [[Cottle]] finds out if the virus affects humans. The human members of the boarding party are cleared while Athena is ordered to stay put, as her blood work hasn't been done. [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] is infuriated, but wants to be notified as soon as her results are available.<br />
*Dr. Cottle's investigation identifies [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|a virus]] that can be treated, but not cured for Cylons. [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]], [[William Adama|Admiral Adama]], Lee Adama, and Helo discuss the idea of taunting the vaccine in exchange for information. A [[Simon]] is brought before them, and informs them that the entire baseship was abandoned, because [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] would infect the others. He also mentions that [[Gaius Baltar]] provided the information on the path to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]].<br />
*Aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'', Lee Adama suggests a plan to eliminate the entire Cylon race by executing their prisoners in range of a [[Resurrection Ship]], where the downloaded consciousnesses would infect the remaining Cylons, because according to [[Simon]] the virus carries a bioelectric feedback component that could spread it even through the download process. Helo scoffs at the idea, considering it genocide.<br />
*Aboard ''Galactica'', Athena finds she's immune because of antibodies generated within her body by carrying her daughter, [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]. Helo tells her of the Fleet's plan, and Athena understands.<br />
*Admiral Adama shows slight dissent about the plan, indicating regulations that forbid him to proceed without presidential order. Despite the ethical ramifications, the President authorizes the biological attack.<br />
*''Galactica'' jumps to a Cylon supply line, and launches Vipers and Raptors to attract the Cylon fleet. In the midst of this, Helo initiates a plan to thwart the execution, unplugging what looks like a standard power connector from an environmental control box.<br />
*The Cylons jump into the area, with Resurrection Ship in tow. Adama orders the execution of the prisoners.<br />
*Lee Adama leads a team to execute the prisoners, but finds that all the prisoners have been killed prior to the Resurrection Ship arriving. Adama orders a recall, and ''Galactica'' escapes without sustaining any major damage.<br />
*Helo converses with Athena about his actions. He maintains that what he did was right, regardless of the consequences.<br />
*Aboard ''Galactica'', Adama reports that the prisoners were suffocated due to a failure in the environmental controls. Roslin is quick to point out one or two might be responsible, but Adama closes the issue. Subsequently, the virus was most likely an accidental exposure, similar to one reported 3000 years ago. Adama points out that they're on the right track to Earth, but Roslin notes that the Cylons are on the right track as well.<br />
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=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===<br />
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*Aboard the bastestar, Baltar is being interrogated by Three and Caprica-Six, knowing about the beacon. Three and Caprica-Six imply that Baltar is connected to the virus and to Galactica. Baltar attempts to reconcile, only to be confronted by Centurions.<br />
*In his "projection", his mental Six tells him to relax. Meanwhile, his body is being subjected to torture; Caprica Six is visibly disturbed by the torture and backs away.<br />
*Baltar's torture continues as Three continues to interrogate Baltar regarding his supposed involvement with the virus. In his mind, he attemps to avert the pain by making love to his mental Six. Despite extreme pain, Baltar endures.<br />
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== Notes == <br />
*[[Survivor count|Fleet population]] is 41,420. Barring any births, there is an unaccounted loss of at least two since "[[Torn]]".<br />
*The story behind the Lion Nebula beacon and the virus may have been inspired by the lunar lander [[wikipedia:Surveyor 3|Surveyor 3]]. Before launching in 1967, its camera was accidentally contaminated by a common bacterium. When the camera was recovered by [[wikipedia:Apollo 12|Apollo 12]] astronauts, the microbes returned to life, having survived two and a half years of vacuum, radiation, and temperature extremes.<br />
*This is the first episode in which [[Saul Tigh]] does not appear, more than likely due to his promise to William Adama at the end of "Torn" after Adama's confrontation with both Tigh and Kara Thrace. Currently, the only characters to have appeared in every episode are [[Laura Roslin]] and [[William Adama]], albeit Adama was unconscious for several episodes early in season 2.<br />
*Helo has been promoted to the rank of captain, as evident in both dialogue and costuming.<br />
*Dr. Cottle identifies the disease as [[Lymphocytic encephalitis]], however [[w:encephalitis|encephalitis]] is a condition (swelling of the brain) that can be caused by a pathogen, not a pathogen itself. More likely the pathogen is [[wikipedia:Lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus|Lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus]].<br />
*In [[Podcast:A Measure of Salvation|his podcast]], Moore notes that this episode shares similarities to the ''[[MemoryAlpha:Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'' episode, "[[MemoryAlpha:I, Borg|I, Borg]]", though he does not mention the episode by name. Moore also noted that this episode was brought up for discussion during the writer's meetings to discuss development of this episode, as "I, Borg" discussed using a lone [[MemoryAlpha:Hugh|Borg drone]] implanted with a computer virus to infect the [[MemoryAlpha:Borg|Borg collective]].<br />
*The location in space of the attempted attack on the Cylons is designated "The Region of [[NCD2539]] Above/North."<br />
*The Cylon [[Hybrid]] does not appear in this episode despite actress Tiffany Lyndall-Knight's name appearing in the ending credits.<br />
*A scene depicted in a promotional photo showing Number Six and Three in a projected forest was apparently cut from the episode.<br />
*Other [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 3 (RDM)#A Measure of Salvation|scenes cut]] from the episode include Kara Thrace interrogating a Leoben model in a callback to "[[Flesh and Bone]]" and Admiral Adama surveying the Cylon basestar in a Raptor. A scene where Tigh accuses Helo of being a poor XO and having a relationship with a Cylon was not filmed at [[Michael Hogan]]'s insistence, who argued that Tigh would heed Adama's order to pull himself together in the previous episode.<ref>{{cite companion|season=3|page=55}}</ref><br />
*Lee Adama leading the Marine boarding party is a remnant of a dropped subplot in which he joins to Marines to lose his weight and become a soldier again<ref>{{cite companion|season=3|page=54}}</ref>.<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
<br />
===The disease===<br />
*The Cylons could have cured themselves of this plague relatively quickly, if ''Galactica'' had succeeded in infecting them. It is quickly noted in the episode that [[Sharon Agathon]] is herself immune because fetal cells from [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] created effective antibodies against the virus. Hera is immune to the virus because she is a hybrid Human-Cylon. Now that she is in custody of the Cylons, Baltar could have utilized her immunity, as he previously did on Roslin, as capital to further his self-preservation amongst them.<br />
**It can be assumed that executing the captured Cylons will send them back to the Resurrection Ship, thus infecting the Cylon network. <br />
**For the Cylons to study the plague they would have become infected themselves, therefore, there was no way they could have tried to find a cure without potentially perishing<br />
*The wider implications of such an event could be religiously meaningful to the Cylons. Cylons have time and again shown religious deference by sometimes overlooking rational explanations. By saving the Cylon race Hera could have been elevated to messiah status, if her very creation has not already ordained her as one to the Cylons because their God proclaimed her creation.<br />
**The presence of Hera is profound enough to the Cylons, which could be preventing them from seeing that Hera could be used as a tool.<br />
*There is a fundamental flaw in the plan [[Lee Adama]] develops: Even if the virus successfully infects the [[Resurrection Ship]], the other Cylons would isolate that individual ship, thus preventing a widespread epidemic. The resulting impact on the Cylon fleet would be no greater than previous destruction of the Resurrection Ship in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]".<br />
**Apollo's plan is based on an account of the Cylon analysis of the threat. He could simply assume they are correct and that the virus can spread like wildfire from one Resurrection Ship to another.<br />
**Also, by infecting a greater mass of ships, ''Galactica'' could board the ships, take much needed resources and more infected Cylons for further use as biological weapons. <br />
*The science behind the virus is somewhat questionable. While the biological aspect is sound, the existence of a "bioelectrical feedback component" appears to be technobabble. It would be impossible for a biological virus (i.e. a physical pathogen) to be transmitted by download to the Resurrection Ship. Such a feedback - scrambling the brainwave patterns - could disrupt the download process, but it is unclear how it could spread the virus itself on the other side. It simply may be a case of Cylon superstition, which is known to happen from time to time.<br />
**From Dr. Cottle's dialogue, it would appear that the problem lies with how the Cylons' immune systems reacts with the virus, more than the virus itself. If this is the case, it is likely that the immune system's reaction would carry through the download and possibly be passed to other Cylons throughout the network.<br />
**Conceptually, there is actually very little difference between a physical and a computer virus. Both usurp cell function. Moreover, if the virus is a retrovirus, its genome (be it physical or digital) will be transcribed into the cellular DNA, which might be downloaded to the Resurrection Ship.<br />
**That the Centurions and Raider are disabled as as well might hint at a digital component, but in "[[Torn]]" it is noted that the Centurions shut down as soon as the [[Hybrid]] became infected. This indicates that the Hybrid is in some sort of contact with the Centurions. Moreover, Raiders are partly biological and could be infected in their hangars.<br />
*Dr. Cottle explains that Cylons carry antibodies that break down the RNA of his proposed vaccine. However antibodies have no disintegrative functionality, and only prime recognized pathogens for phagocytosis, though he may have simplified the explanation. But as vaccines are developed from the pathogenic organism (or a close relative) it would be impossible for the Cylons to carry antibodies specific for the vaccine RNA (or for the products it encodes) or otherwise they would be immune to the pathonogenic virus itself.<br />
*The genetic pool the Cylons were created from may predate the human immunity to the plague from just a couple hundred years ago, yet the Cylons, even as a class of machines, are only 40 to 60 years old. This may indicate another, non-Colonial, source for the DNA. However, it should also be noted that the genetic pool need not be so old. As humans had been completely immune to this virus for hundreds of years, the Cylons may have simply overlooked it while creating their biological models.<br />
*It seems this virus could also be a fairly reliable (although not conclusive) litmus test for Cylons in the Colonial Fleet.<br />
*It seems reasonable to assume that all members of ''Galactica's'' boarding party who boarded the baseship are not Cylons, save Sharon Agathon. <br />
*Baltar's boarding of the baseship does not discount [[Baltar as Cylon speculation|Baltar from being a Cylon]], as Baltar was in a self-contained [[flight suit]] the entire time he was on the basestar. Using standard biohazard procedures, he would have remained in the suit which would be disinfected from the outside before taking it off.<br />
*The environmental controls seem to be circumvented by [[Karl Agathon]] by pulling a single plug (unless this is just the last step in a longer process). One would assume that a warship has cascading fail safe systems to protect against such catastrophic failures from simple system malfunctions.<br />
*The quarantine procedures, sheets of plastic in rooms and hallways, seem ineffective. On a spaceship it should be possible to cut off selected areas from life support completely. Again, this might have been done for dramatic effect.<br />
*Dramatic effect aside, the plan could be implemented faster by having the execution squad standing by for immediate action and having the FTL drives spun up at all times.<br />
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*Adama's reaction to the premature death of the prisoners is yet another example of what are simultaneously his greatest virtues and most glaring flaws – his dedication to those under his command, and his need to keep his conscience clear. <br />
*In this episode, [[Raptors]] are shown loaded to the teeth with weapons systems. In the past ([[Miniseries]], "[[The Hand of God]]"), Raptors have rarely been depicted in actual combat, preferring instead to hang back while coordinating battlefield logistics. They have been shown armed in a few prior episodes ("[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]", "[[Fragged]]"), but this is by far their most prominent combat role to date. The Raptors are using the external missile pods and cannons introduced in "Exodus, Part [[Exodus, Part I|I]] & [[Exodus, Part II|II]]" and engage in the same maneuver used to launch the decoy drones during the Battle of New Caprica.<br />
*[[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] calls the [[Number Three]] torturing him "D'Anna", to which she responds. However, this is not the reporter copy that hid in the Fleet. She is the same copy that was on Caprica trying to box Caprica Six and Boomer before Caprica Six killed her ([[Downloaded]]): It is shown that she is the same as the one having dreams on New Caprica, who in turn is identified as the "Downloaded" copy.<br />
*[[Gaeta]] is surprised to hear that Baltar is alive, even though he was there when Number Three offered Baltar evacuation from New Caprica. Therefore, Gaeta likely assumed that Baltar has not survived as Baltar went off to forcefully prevent the nuclear detonation on New Caprica, thus betraying the Cylons. Therefore Baltar would have little chance of survival at the hands of the Cylons, let alone being their "guest". It should be noted that extenuating circumstances, such as Baltar's rescue of Hera and his aid in helping the Cylons find the road to Earth are the main reasons why the Cylons let him exist on the basestar.<br />
*In a [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 3 (RDM)#A Measure of Salvation|deleted scene]] Apollo says they need everyone in the air for this mission, including those who would normally not have flight status. As he says this he (and the camera) looks right at Starbuck indicating he was talking about her. This clarifies that Thrace is still officially grounded after the events of "[[Torn]]".<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
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* Where is Caprica-Six's own internal Baltar in all of this?<br />
* Of the Cylons, which type tells the basestar to self-destruct: The [[Hybrid]] or a [[humanoid Cylon]]? Considering her odd look after the destruction, might it be [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]]?<br />
* When the basestar self-destructs, is it an indicator that the Hybrid on the ship has died, thus no longer able to maintain the integrity of the ship?<br />
* If the basestar and the virus do represent a true genocide threat to the Cylons why do they just leave them to slowly expire instead of destroying the ship right away?<br />
* What kind of new start are the Cylons planning for [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]? Just a new home planet, an attempt at human Cylon relations not tainted by the destruction of the Twelve Colonies, or something else?<br />
* Would the possible presence of this new pathogen on Earth, if indeed it was left by the Thirteenth Tribe, mean that Earth is no longer a viable planet for the Cylons? Would any Cylons landing on Earth again be susceptible to this virus?<br />
* Why does an entire Cylon fleet (including a [[Resurrection Ship]]) jump to the encounter with ''Galactica''? Why is the Resurrection Ship not left behind somewhere else, as it was done in previous battles?<br />
* Does Number Three reciprocate Baltar's love?<br />
* Why does [[Simon]] so quickly claim science can not provide a solution to the infection?<br />
*Will there be any consequences of the sabotage for Helo and Athena from other crewmembers who may figure they are behind said sabotage? How will this affect Helo's reputation as a Cylon-lover or his credibility as XO? ([[The Woman King|Answer]])<br />
*Will Athena's words to Helo about her commitment to keep her word stay true should she ever discover that Hera is alive? Will she live up to her promise to Adama and the fleet?<br />
*Is Helo's act of sabotage and his view that the Cylons did attempt to co-exist with humans the beginnings of a more conscious act of betrayal to the Fleet, thus following a similar pattern as how Athena eventually switches sides. Would Helo thus become like Athena and eventually identify himself with the Cylons? ([[Rapture|Answer]])<br />
*Is it possible that while torturing Baltar Number Three actually believes that God is talking to her through Baltar (similar to him being the [[The Hand of God (RDM)|hand of God]])? When he says "don't stop, I love you" and "I believe in you" it is possible that this may give Three the reassurance she needs that she is on the right track.<br />
*Why does Baltar take photos of the suspicious object and claim to have seen nothing suspicious? Doesn't he realize the Cylons would review the documentation he sends and immediately discover his lie?<br />
*After discovering that the virus does not affect humans, why does Helo remain outside the isolation area instead of comforting his wife in person?<br />
*Why do the boarders of the basestar not recognize the symptoms of disease in the dying Cylons before being told so by a Cylon?<br />
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== Official Statements ==<br />
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* ''[[Lucy Lawless]] talks to '''iF Magazine''' about the torture scene:''<br />
*: '''Lawless:''' "The difficulty was I had to pretend to not be hearing Six who was sitting right beside us carrying on a conversation with him. I was supposed to be completely unaware of this sort of cyber sex relationship, and yet I could hear her and it was a little annoying. In particular when the camera is on you; just let it be your scene, but I didn’t want to break [[James Callis|James]] [Callis]’ spell by asking for things to be changed."<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=1773|title= iF MAGAZINE Gets Probed by Friendly Cylon & Former Warrior Princess - Part 1|date=28 November 2006|accessdate=28 November 2006|last=Elliot|first=Sean|format=html|language=English}}</ref><br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''On Colonial One'':<br />
:'''Karl Agathon''': Genocide? So that's what we're about now?<br />
:'''Lee Adama''': They're not human! They were built, not born. No fathers, no mothers, no sons, no daughters--<br />
:'''Karl Agathon''': I ''had'' a daughter. I held her in my arms.<br />
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*''Gaius Baltar talking about religion while being tortured'':<br />
:'''Three:''' There's no such thing as coincidence. [[God (RDM)|God]] wills the universe according to his design. <br />
:'''Baltar:''' I'm a scientist. And as a scientist, I believe that if God exists our knowledge of him is imperfect. Why? Because the stories and myths we have are the products of men. The passage of time. That religion in practice is based on a theory. Impossible to prove. Yet you bestow it with absolutes like, "There is no such thing as coincidence."<br />
:'''Three:''' It's called [[Cylon Religion|faith]].<br />
:'''Baltar:''' Absolute belief in God's will means there's a reason for everything. Everything! And yet you can't help ask yourself how God can allow death and destruction and then despise yourself for asking. But the truth is, if we knew God's will, we'd all be Gods, wouldn't we? I can see it in your eyes, D'Anna. You're frustrated. You're conflicted. Let me help you. Let me help you change. Find a way to reconcile your faith with fact. Find a way towards a rational universe.<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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* [[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]<br />
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Captain [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]<br />
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]<br />
* [[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]<br />
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]<br />
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Doctor [[Cottle]]<br />
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]<br />
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Costanza]]<br />
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]<br />
* [[Eileen Pedde]] as Sgt. [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]]<br />
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]] (Credit only)<br />
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== Port wine finish ==<br />
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I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== SSH ==<br />
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I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.<br />
:There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run <code>chmod -R g+w hb</code> so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Will do. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Joe beat me to it. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Bots dir done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Clear to Commit ==<br />
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You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Theoretically, you ''could'' (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to ''all'' databases instead of just one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can see which tables are old [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout here]. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch [[Sine Qua Non]] with a couple of friends tonight :P --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems to only have one error: [[Special:MergeAccount]]. Is php missing something? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I noticed the [[Special:Allmessages]] error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so <code>chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki</code> should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at [[Special:Allmessages]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== AntiSpoof Extension ==<br />
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I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof] extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== global_group_permissions and global_user_groups ==<br />
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I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8<br />
You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Catrope&diff=166118User:Catrope2008-07-23T13:33:24Z<p>Catrope: going away again...</p>
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== Occupations ==<br />
* [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|BSG]]<br />
* [[Main Page|BSWiki]]<br />
* [[w:Piano|Piano]]<br />
* [[w:Badminton|Badminton]]<br />
* [[w:Chess|Chess]]<br />
* Programming in:<br />
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== Specialisms ==<br />
* Fixing spelling, grammar and style errors whenever I run into them.<br />
* Correcting factually wrong information whenever I run into it.<br />
* Cleaning up articles (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Transcribing and verifying [[BW:POD|podcasts]] (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Giving my opinion on talk pages.<br />
* Playing around with templates<br />
* Programming for MediaWiki, mostly the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new bot API].<br />
** I've [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditOwn also] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Imagetabs written] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Redircite some] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChangeAuthor extensions].<br />
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== Todo list ==<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:Frak Party Q and A|Frak Party Q&A podcast]].<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:A Day in the Life Bonus|bonus podcast]] for [[A Day in the Life]], not to mention the [[Podcast:The Son Also Rises Bonus|other]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I Bonus|bonus]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II Bonus|podcasts]].<br />
* Write a wiki bot that uses the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new MediaWiki API].<br />
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{{kobolstar}}</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hanfuzzy&diff=166117User talk:Hanfuzzy2008-07-23T13:31:01Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
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To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
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Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
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Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ashigaru&diff=166116User talk:Ashigaru2008-07-23T13:30:51Z<p>Catrope: New page: {{subst:welcome|{{PAGENAME}}}}--~~~~</p>
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<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
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Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chimere&diff=166059User talk:Chimere2008-07-22T21:02:36Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<div>== Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! ==<br />
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Greetings, {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to Battlestar Wiki! I'm pleased to tell you that you have full editing privileges on every wiki in the Battlestar Wiki network. I hope you enjoy your stay with us and am looking forward to your contributions to the Wiki! Why not begin by telling us a bit about yourself on your own [[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]?<br />
<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
<br />
Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:02, 22 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=166058Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-22T21:01:53Z<p>Catrope: /* Help with the French Battlestar Wiki */ reply</p>
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
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===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
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===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
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== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
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''No recent reports.''<br />
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== Upload errors ==<br />
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So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
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: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
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Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Subscription ==<br />
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Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
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Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
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Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
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(SQL query hidden)<br />
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from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
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The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
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Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The Letterman List:<br />
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#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
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That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Doesn't all MediaWiki's then have to be the same version then? Minus the EurekaWiki, everything else has it's own mediawiki installation.. which is a bit crazy. :x [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Having all wikis share the same codebase would help a great deal in setting this thing up, yeah. All wikis don't necessarily have to have the same version, as long as they all have and support CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd like to work on that before we did anything with the CentralAuth. The LocalSettings.php and the media folders we have to keep correct, but I think that would be the better move right now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course, I'd love it if you put all wikis on one codebase before I even touch CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'll be away until Monday, so once you've finished migrating all wikis to the same codebase, please drop me a note on my talk page and I'll get to it when I get back. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Skin breakage (again) ==<br />
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Somewhere in the last few days (probably related to the recent upgrade), the user options bar (Catrope / my talk / ... / log out ) started overlapping the pages tabs bar (article / discussion / ... / purge). This doesn't happen in the battlestar (default) skin, since they're miles apart there, but does happen in [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgbook}} bsgbook] and [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgmonobook}} bsgmonobook]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, I can confirm that. Frak. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Main Page Header Redesign ==<br />
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I worked on a re-design of the Main Page header on the [[BW:MAIN]] page. I also removed the airdates section. I have yet to add it to the design, but it be a bar under the two images. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: The header is now bloated with the redesign. The header really needs to be as small as possible. To accomplish that, remove the airdate stuff from the header, and I think it'll be fine. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Help with the French Battlestar Wiki ==<br />
<br />
Addressing Shane: I read about the request to help with the French page of Battlestar Wiki. I'm not sure what sort of help is needed, but I'm reasonably fluent in French and a fan of the re-imagined BSG. If this makes me qualified, perhaps I can be of assistance. I'm new to Wiki, though, which is why I'm posting this here (couldn't find a link for a personal post). Waiting to hear from you. -chimere<br />
:You can post personal messages (sort of, everyone will be able to read them) on a user's talk page. For Shane, this is [[User talk:Shane]]. To start a new section, click the + sign next to the "edit" button on top of the page. <br />
:As to helping with the French wiki: I suggest you browse around the wiki to see what has to be done there (which articles have to be created, improved, etc.) and start doing it. By signing up here you've already got an account on the French wiki as well, and you should be logged in automatically by just [[fr:|visiting it]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Victoire&diff=166008User talk:Victoire2008-07-21T20:54:57Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<div>== Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! ==<br />
<br />
Greetings, {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to Battlestar Wiki! I'm pleased to tell you that you have full editing privileges on every wiki in the Battlestar Wiki network. I hope you enjoy your stay with us and am looking forward to your contributions to the Wiki! Why not begin by telling us a bit about yourself on your own [[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]?<br />
<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
<br />
Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
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===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
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''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
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== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
The Letterman List:<br />
<br />
#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
<br />
That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Doesn't all MediaWiki's then have to be the same version then? Minus the EurekaWiki, everything else has it's own mediawiki installation.. which is a bit crazy. :x [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Having all wikis share the same codebase would help a great deal in setting this thing up, yeah. All wikis don't necessarily have to have the same version, as long as they all have and support CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd like to work on that before we did anything with the CentralAuth. The LocalSettings.php and the media folders we have to keep correct, but I think that would be the better move right now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course, I'd love it if you put all wikis on one codebase before I even touch CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'll be away until Monday, so once you've finished migrating all wikis to the same codebase, please drop me a note on my talk page and I'll get to it when I get back. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Skin breakage (again) ==<br />
<br />
Somewhere in the last few days (probably related to the recent upgrade), the user options bar (Catrope / my talk / ... / log out ) started overlapping the pages tabs bar (article / discussion / ... / purge). This doesn't happen in the battlestar (default) skin, since they're miles apart there, but does happen in [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgbook}} bsgbook] and [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgmonobook}} bsgmonobook]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165871Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-16T16:05:27Z<p>Catrope: /* Skin breakage (again) */ oops</p>
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
<br />
===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
The Letterman List:<br />
<br />
#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
<br />
That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Doesn't all MediaWiki's then have to be the same version then? Minus the EurekaWiki, everything else has it's own mediawiki installation.. which is a bit crazy. :x [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Having all wikis share the same codebase would help a great deal in setting this thing up, yeah. All wikis don't necessarily have to have the same version, as long as they all have and support CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd like to work on that before we did anything with the CentralAuth. The LocalSettings.php and the media folders we have to keep correct, but I think that would be the better move right now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course, I'd love it if you put all wikis on one codebase before I even touch CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'll be away until Monday, so once you've finished migrating all wikis to the same codebase, please drop me a note on my talk page and I'll get to it when I get back. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Skin breakage (again) ==<br />
<br />
Somewhere in the last few days (probably related to the recent upgrade), the user options bar (Catrope / my talk / ... / log out ) started overlapping the pages tabs bar (article / discussion / ... / purge). This doesn't happen in the battlestar (default) skin, since they're miles apart there, but does happen in [{{fullurl:{{PAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgbook}} bsgbook] and [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgmonobook}} bsgmonobook]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165870Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-16T16:03:29Z<p>Catrope: /* Skin breakage (again) */ new section</p>
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
<br />
===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
The Letterman List:<br />
<br />
#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
<br />
That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Doesn't all MediaWiki's then have to be the same version then? Minus the EurekaWiki, everything else has it's own mediawiki installation.. which is a bit crazy. :x [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Having all wikis share the same codebase would help a great deal in setting this thing up, yeah. All wikis don't necessarily have to have the same version, as long as they all have and support CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd like to work on that before we did anything with the CentralAuth. The LocalSettings.php and the media folders we have to keep correct, but I think that would be the better move right now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course, I'd love it if you put all wikis on one codebase before I even touch CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'll be away until Monday, so once you've finished migrating all wikis to the same codebase, please drop me a note on my talk page and I'll get to it when I get back. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Skin breakage (again) ==<br />
<br />
Somewhere in the last few days (probably related to the recent upgrade), the user options bar (Catrope / my talk / ... / log out ) started overlapping the pages tabs bar (article / discussion / ... / purge). This doesn't happen in the battlestar (default) skin, since they're miles apart there, but does happen in [{{fullurl:{{PAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgbook}} bsgbook] and [{{fullurl:{{PAGENAME}}|useskin=bsgmonobook}} bsgmonobook]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165865Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-16T12:08:04Z<p>Catrope: /* Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis */ going away</p>
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
<br />
===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The Letterman List:<br />
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#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
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That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Doesn't all MediaWiki's then have to be the same version then? Minus the EurekaWiki, everything else has it's own mediawiki installation.. which is a bit crazy. :x [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Having all wikis share the same codebase would help a great deal in setting this thing up, yeah. All wikis don't necessarily have to have the same version, as long as they all have and support CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd like to work on that before we did anything with the CentralAuth. The LocalSettings.php and the media folders we have to keep correct, but I think that would be the better move right now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course, I'd love it if you put all wikis on one codebase before I even touch CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'll be away until Monday, so once you've finished migrating all wikis to the same codebase, please drop me a note on my talk page and I'll get to it when I get back. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Catrope&diff=165864User:Catrope2008-07-16T12:06:37Z<p>Catrope: Monday</p>
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== Status ==<br />
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== Occupations ==<br />
* [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|BSG]]<br />
* [[Main Page|BSWiki]]<br />
* [[w:Piano|Piano]]<br />
* [[w:Badminton|Badminton]]<br />
* [[w:Chess|Chess]]<br />
* Programming in:<br />
** [[w:C (programming language)|C]]/[[w:C++|C++]]<br />
** [[w:PHP|PHP]]<br />
** [[w:Javascript|Javascript]]/[[w:AJAX|AJAX]]<br />
** [[w:HTML|HTML]]<br />
** And occasionally bits and pieces of other languages<br />
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== Specialisms ==<br />
* Fixing spelling, grammar and style errors whenever I run into them.<br />
* Correcting factually wrong information whenever I run into it.<br />
* Cleaning up articles (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Transcribing and verifying [[BW:POD|podcasts]] (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Giving my opinion on talk pages.<br />
* Playing around with templates<br />
* Programming for MediaWiki, mostly the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new bot API].<br />
** I've [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditOwn also] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Imagetabs written] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Redircite some] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChangeAuthor extensions].<br />
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== Todo list ==<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:Frak Party Q and A|Frak Party Q&A podcast]].<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:A Day in the Life Bonus|bonus podcast]] for [[A Day in the Life]], not to mention the [[Podcast:The Son Also Rises Bonus|other]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I Bonus|bonus]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II Bonus|podcasts]].<br />
* Write a wiki bot that uses the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new MediaWiki API].<br />
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== Port wine finish ==<br />
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I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== SSH ==<br />
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I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.<br />
:There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run <code>chmod -R g+w hb</code> so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Will do. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Joe beat me to it. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Bots dir done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Clear to Commit ==<br />
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You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Theoretically, you ''could'' (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to ''all'' databases instead of just one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can see which tables are old [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout here]. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch [[Sine Qua Non]] with a couple of friends tonight :P --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems to only have one error: [[Special:MergeAccount]]. Is php missing something? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I noticed the [[Special:Allmessages]] error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so <code>chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki</code> should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at [[Special:Allmessages]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== AntiSpoof Extension ==<br />
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I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof] extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== global_group_permissions and global_user_groups ==<br />
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I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8<br />
You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Catrope&diff=165862User talk:Catrope2008-07-16T12:03:58Z<p>Catrope: away</p>
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I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== SSH ==<br />
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I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.<br />
:There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run <code>chmod -R g+w hb</code> so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Will do. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Joe beat me to it. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Bots dir done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Clear to Commit ==<br />
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You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Theoretically, you ''could'' (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to ''all'' databases instead of just one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can see which tables are old [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout here]. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch [[Sine Qua Non]] with a couple of friends tonight :P --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems to only have one error: [[Special:MergeAccount]]. Is php missing something? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I noticed the [[Special:Allmessages]] error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so <code>chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki</code> should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at [[Special:Allmessages]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== AntiSpoof Extension ==<br />
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I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof] extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== global_group_permissions and global_user_groups ==<br />
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I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8<br />
You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Catrope&diff=165861User:Catrope2008-07-16T12:01:52Z<p>Catrope: going away tonight</p>
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|gender= Male<br />
|born_day= 25<br />
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|born_year= 1990<br />
|location= Harlingen, The Netherlands<br />
|timezone= UTC +1 ([http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cet.html CEST])<br />
|email= [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|Just click here]]<br />
|callsign= Catrope<br />
|marital status= Take a guess<br />
|occupation= Student<br />
|countrycode= NL<br />
|favepi= [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br/>[[Downloaded]]<br/>[[Occupation]]/[[Precipice]]<br/>[[Exodus, Part II]]<br/>[[Torn]]<br/>[[Rapture]]<br/>and [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II|all]] [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|season]] [[Crossroads, Part II|finales]]<br />
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== Status ==<br />
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== Occupations ==<br />
* [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|BSG]]<br />
* [[Main Page|BSWiki]]<br />
* [[w:Piano|Piano]]<br />
* [[w:Badminton|Badminton]]<br />
* [[w:Chess|Chess]]<br />
* Programming in:<br />
** [[w:C (programming language)|C]]/[[w:C++|C++]]<br />
** [[w:PHP|PHP]]<br />
** [[w:Javascript|Javascript]]/[[w:AJAX|AJAX]]<br />
** [[w:HTML|HTML]]<br />
** And occasionally bits and pieces of other languages<br />
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== Specialisms ==<br />
* Fixing spelling, grammar and style errors whenever I run into them.<br />
* Correcting factually wrong information whenever I run into it.<br />
* Cleaning up articles (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Transcribing and verifying [[BW:POD|podcasts]] (when I have the time and I feel like it)<br />
* Giving my opinion on talk pages.<br />
* Playing around with templates<br />
* Programming for MediaWiki, mostly the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new bot API].<br />
** I've [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditOwn also] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Imagetabs written] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Redircite some] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChangeAuthor extensions].<br />
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== Todo list ==<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:Frak Party Q and A|Frak Party Q&A podcast]].<br />
* Transcribe the [[Podcast:A Day in the Life Bonus|bonus podcast]] for [[A Day in the Life]], not to mention the [[Podcast:The Son Also Rises Bonus|other]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I Bonus|bonus]] [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II Bonus|podcasts]].<br />
* Write a wiki bot that uses the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API new MediaWiki API].<br />
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
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===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
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===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
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== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
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''No recent reports.''<br />
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== Upload errors ==<br />
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So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
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: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
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Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Subscription ==<br />
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Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
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Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
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Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
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(SQL query hidden)<br />
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from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
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The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
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Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The Letterman List:<br />
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#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
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That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Doesn't all MediaWiki's then have to be the same version then? Minus the EurekaWiki, everything else has it's own mediawiki installation.. which is a bit crazy. :x [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Having all wikis share the same codebase would help a great deal in setting this thing up, yeah. All wikis don't necessarily have to have the same version, as long as they all have and support CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd like to work on that before we did anything with the CentralAuth. The LocalSettings.php and the media folders we have to keep correct, but I think that would be the better move right now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course, I'd love it if you put all wikis on one codebase before I even touch CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drinkcobra&diff=165840User talk:Drinkcobra2008-07-15T23:01:58Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
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Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BlackSandMan&diff=165839User talk:BlackSandMan2008-07-15T23:01:54Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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Greetings, {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to Battlestar Wiki! I'm pleased to tell you that you have full editing privileges on every wiki in the Battlestar Wiki network. I hope you enjoy your stay with us and am looking forward to your contributions to the Wiki! Why not begin by telling us a bit about yourself on your own [[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]?<br />
<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
<br />
Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Whartonalexander&diff=165838User talk:Whartonalexander2008-07-15T23:00:33Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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Greetings, {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to Battlestar Wiki! I'm pleased to tell you that you have full editing privileges on every wiki in the Battlestar Wiki network. I hope you enjoy your stay with us and am looking forward to your contributions to the Wiki! Why not begin by telling us a bit about yourself on your own [[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]?<br />
<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
<br />
Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 23:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165836Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-15T22:30:45Z<p>Catrope: /* Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis */ yeah</p>
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
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===Senior Chiefs===<br />
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Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
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===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
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== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
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== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Subscription ==<br />
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Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
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Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
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(SQL query hidden)<br />
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from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
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The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
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Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
The Letterman List:<br />
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#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
<br />
That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Doesn't all MediaWiki's then have to be the same version then? Minus the EurekaWiki, everything else has it's own mediawiki installation.. which is a bit crazy. :x [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Having all wikis share the same codebase would help a great deal in setting this thing up, yeah. All wikis don't necessarily have to have the same version, as long as they all have and support CentralAuth. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165834Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-15T22:25:47Z<p>Catrope: /* Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis */ will do</p>
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
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===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
Thank you all. Works like a charm! :)-- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 21:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
The Letterman List:<br />
<br />
#http://www.battlestarpegasus.com<br />
#http://en.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://media.eurekawiki.org<br />
#http://wiki.frakr.com<br />
#http://www.sanctuarywiki.org<br />
<br />
That's it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:OK, will do those tomorrow afternoon if I have time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165828Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-15T21:29:06Z<p>Catrope: /* Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis */ I can do it</p>
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It is our hope that this place can serve as a location for administrators to coordinate their efforts on the maintenance tasks of the Wiki (it's not ALL fun and games), as well as a spot for our contributors to be able to bring things to the attention of the admins if something needs to be done. Need a protected page edited? An article or picture deleted? Admins will watchlist this page so that your request won't get lost in the shuffle.<br />
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== Current Administrators ==<br />
<br />
===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, it turned out to be a configuration variable in CentralAuth.php that I overlooked. Which wikis would you like to add SUL to? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165824Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-15T21:09:00Z<p>Catrope: /* Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis */ reply</p>
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This noticeboard is a location to discuss and coordinate administrative tasks for the Battlestar Wiki.<br />
<br />
It is our hope that this place can serve as a location for administrators to coordinate their efforts on the maintenance tasks of the Wiki (it's not ALL fun and games), as well as a spot for our contributors to be able to bring things to the attention of the admins if something needs to be done. Need a protected page edited? An article or picture deleted? Admins will watchlist this page so that your request won't get lost in the shuffle.<br />
<br />
{{ArchiveTOC}}<br />
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{{newsection link}}<br />
<br />
== Current Administrators ==<br />
<br />
===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Great! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Unified logon for other non-BSG Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Also, while I'm at it, can the unified logon work for the other non-BSG Wikis? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The fact that Wikimedia has cross-domain SUL (*.wikipedia.org, *.wiktionary.org, etc.) means it's possible. I'm [irc://freenode/#mediawiki stumping Brion] right now about the lack of documentation for CentralAuth and asking him how to do cross-domain SUL. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dizman19&diff=165819User talk:Dizman192008-07-15T19:49:36Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
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Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
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--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 19:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Athenaagathon&diff=165818User talk:Athenaagathon2008-07-15T19:49:27Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
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Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
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Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 19:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165809Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-15T16:51:25Z<p>Catrope: /* Minor DB issue on Media */ fixed?</p>
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Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
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===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
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== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
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''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
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== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Subscription ==<br />
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Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Minor DB issue on Media ==<br />
<br />
Getting this whenever I post a new article:<br />
<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
<br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
<br />
from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'bsgwiki_media.cu_changes' doesn't exist (athena.frakmedia.net)".<br />
<br />
The article edits still go through though... Probably a case of just needing to run the update.php app. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yup, update.php says "cu_changes table added and populated". Should be fixed now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Graf_Iblis&diff=165807User talk:Graf Iblis2008-07-15T16:44:28Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<div>== Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! ==<br />
<br />
Greetings, {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to Battlestar Wiki! I'm pleased to tell you that you have full editing privileges on every wiki in the Battlestar Wiki network. I hope you enjoy your stay with us and am looking forward to your contributions to the Wiki! Why not begin by telling us a bit about yourself on your own [[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]?<br />
<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
<br />
Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
<br />
Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165805Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-15T16:39:20Z<p>Catrope: /* Everything has been updated... */ reply</p>
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<br />
===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
<br />
Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah. Minus that. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going through and fixing a few of the extensions. For instance, the hide sitenotice extension needs to be modified to allow for unregistered users to hide the message. I'll update this page when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::My bad. Roger that joe. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't sweat it. :) Fixes were simple. Everything I needed to do is done now. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Alright, global groups are back up. I've also promoted all sponsors to global status. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165797Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-15T15:44:08Z<p>Catrope: /* Everything has been updated... */ mess-up</p>
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*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
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* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
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== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
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== Upload errors ==<br />
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So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Interestingly, it gives me the same message, despite the fact that I am a senior chief! Whoa! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Everything has been updated... ==<br />
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Including all base extensions. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]])<br />
:Global groups have been messed up again, though, meaning all global groups and their permissions are gone. I'll restore all that after dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Seidelkm&diff=165791User talk:Seidelkm2008-07-15T10:06:03Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
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Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
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--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165781Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-14T09:43:51Z<p>Catrope: /* Subscription */ ?</p>
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Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I got a permission error. Same with Joe. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It tells me I have to be a Senior Chief, which I'm not and you are. What error do you get? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard&diff=165737Battlestar Wiki:Chiefs' noticeboard2008-07-13T20:39:48Z<p>Catrope: /* Subscription */ global groups</p>
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===Senior Chiefs===<br />
Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs.<br />
Currently senior chiefs are:<br />
*[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]<br />
*[[User:Shane|Shane]]<br />
*[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]]<br />
*[[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only)<br />
<br />
===Chiefs===<br />
Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are:<br />
* Active<br />
**[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<br />
**[[User:Gougef|Gougef]]<br />
**[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator)<br />
**[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)<br />
**[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]]<br />
**[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] <br />
**[[User:Serenity|Serenity]]<br />
**[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]]<br />
* Inactive<br />
**[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] <br />
**[[User:Day|Day]]<br />
**[[User:Talos|Talos]]<br />
See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]]<br />
<br />
== Javascript Reported Vandals ==<br />
<br />
''No recent reports.''<br />
<div style="clear:both;"></div><br />
<br />
== Upload errors ==<br />
<br />
So, we're having upload errors... I haven't a clue how to fix it right now, but what I get is this:<br />
<br />
: Could not rename file "/tmp/http/phpPZkJNu" to "public/7/7f/Genevieve_Buechner.jpg".<br />
<br />
Now, the prefix should really be "/home/bsgwiki/public_html/media/images" and not "public" (no slash in front)... I wonder if there's a configuration setting fubared somewhere in one of 1.13's files? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Ok... this is what happens when the disembodied spirit of Jar Jar Binks inhabits all of us... what caused this issue was the fact that the partition was close to (or at) 100% full. We cleaned it up... and, besides, we're moving to a better server with more room to it anyway. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Subscription ==<br />
<br />
Hi!<br />
I have just paid the subscription fee for a year, but I can still see the ads after having logged out and in again. Is there anything I have to do to confirm it? Have I done anything wrong, or is it just a question of time for the subscription to go through and change my status? <br />
Thanks a mill in advance for your help. -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 16:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hi Mouan, I've confirmed your subscription and will set you up here for ads-free viewing in a few minutes... By the way, do you have an account on our [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum]? If so—or if you want to make one—please send me that info so I can enable ads-free viewing of our forums as well. Thank you for helping us out! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Mouan, you are all set for both places. Cheers! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you guys. One thing - is the subscription valid for other language versions of the wiki or do I need to buy another one for the Spanish wiki? Because I have just checked and it still displays ads. Perhaps it needs to be set up like you did with this one? :) -- [[User:Mouan|Mouan]] 20:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Shane added you to the local (English) sponsor group, but he should've added you to the global sponsor group. @Shane: you can do that through [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Group-sponsor&diff=165736MediaWiki:Group-sponsor2008-07-13T20:34:12Z<p>Catrope: this is supposed to be plural</p>
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<div>Sponsors</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Group-sponsor-member&diff=165735MediaWiki:Group-sponsor-member2008-07-13T20:33:50Z<p>Catrope: sp</p>
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<div>Sponsor</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Coppertop&diff=165425User talk:Coppertop2008-07-09T19:52:50Z<p>Catrope: Welcome</p>
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<div>== Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! ==<br />
<br />
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<br />
As you may already know, Battlestar Wiki covers all the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series from past to present, in addition to authorized merchandise. Presently, we don't cover fan fiction, but our sister-site, [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]], does so. We're also not a discussion site, although we do have an ever-growing [http://www.battlestarforum.com Battlestar Forum] where people can discuss the various shows and non-BSG topics as well!<br />
<br />
To get started on the wiki, we suggest that you check out our [[BW:TUT|tutorial]], experiment in [[BW:SAND|the sandbox]] (a test editing area for those learning wiki code), and review some of our basic [[BW:POL|policies]] (which have important differences from other SF wikis). For some general questions and answers about the navigation and operation of the Wiki, check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] (FAQ).<br />
<br />
Of course, if you have any questions, comments, or concerns, you are more than welcome to bring them up at the [[BW:CN|Chiefs' noticeboard]] (which is frequented by the administrators of the Wiki) and at the [[BW:GQ|Galactipedians' Quorum]] (which is the hub for contributors, who are called "Galactipedians").<br />
<br />
Furthermore, if you don't wish to see the ads, then please consider upgrading your account to a [[BW:MEMBERSHIP|paid membership]], which costs only $10 USD a year and helps support the wiki financially. Becoming a member also entitles you to our [[BW:RAFFLE|raffle]], where you can win gift cards, merchandise, and other prizes! We think this is very cool, and we hope you do as well! <br />
<br />
Thank you for joining us! Hope to see you soon!<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 19:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Humanoid_Cylon_speculation/ColdBoot&diff=165397Humanoid Cylon speculation/ColdBoot2008-07-09T11:29:07Z<p>Catrope: /* Felix Gaeta */ sp, fix link</p>
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<div>{{plausible speculation}}<br />
<br />
A central mystery of the fourth season, according to the opening titles, concerns who the last member of the Cylon [[Final Five]] is. What follows is a compilation of significant clues suggesting or refuting that a character is the final Cylon.<br />
<br />
==Notes on Clues==<br />
Clues as to the identity of hidden Cylons have been historically rare in the series. These are the clues which have actually pointed to a real Cylon:<br />
* [[Galen Tyrol]]'s compulsion to find [[Temple of Five]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
* [[Brother Cavil]] says "I'm [a Cylon] and I haven't seen you at the meetings" to Tyrol, foreshadowing that both characters are Cylons ([[Crossroads, Part I]]).<br />
* Tyrol's suffers less injuries than his wife when exposed to the vacuum of space ([[A Day in the Life]]).<br />
* The music heard by the four revealed final Cylons.<br />
<br />
Clues entered here must be concrete, from canon or official sources. They should be either:<br />
*Extrahuman events relating to a character.<br />
*Clear dramatic references to a Cylon nature.<br />
*Statements from official sources.<br />
<br />
Simple suspicious activity or hidden motives are found in all characters and should not be included. Clues should relate to specific extrahuman/Cylon events, or specific foreshadowing, not speculation of what might be true.<br />
<br />
===General Constraints===<br />
Any character, with the likely exceptions of [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Cally Tyrol]], who have fathered half-Cylon children with Cylons<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=hybridnick|timestamp=22:41|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref>, could be the final Cylon. The [[Final Five]] are a "fundamentally different"<br />
kind of Cylon <ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=ffdifferent|timestamp=19:05|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref> and having children, parents, an established past, injuries and a green light from the Cylon detector do not disqualify a character. Dead characters are not excluded. The final Cylon may or may not be aware of his or her nature. It is expected that the unmasking of the final Cylon will be a highly dramatic event, similar in grandeur to the revelation of the other four members of the Final Five.<br />
<br />
===Multi-character clues===<br />
====Statement by the First Hybrid====<br />
The [[First Hybrid]] says this about the final Cylon:<br />
"The fifth is still is in shadow, drawn toward the light, hungering for redemption, that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering."<br />
<br />
====Last Supper Photo====<br />
A promotional photo, entitled the "[[Last Supper]]" features an empty goblet which is suggested to belong to the final Cylon. In somewhat equivocal statements, when an interviewer wonders if the final Cylon is not in the photo (which contains all major characters). Moore replies "you feretted that out pretty slyly. I didn't really want to give that away." Moore later confirmed he was not equivocating, and really did reveal that the Cylon is not in the photo.<br />
<br />
Significant minor characters from Season 1 without specific clues listed below include [[Tom Zarek]], Doctor [[Cottle]] and dead characters [[Billy Keikeya]] and [[Ellen Tigh]]. (Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] did not appear in Season One).<br />
<br />
Other clues are related in the commentary surrounding this photo.<br />
<br />
====Four with the Fleet====<br />
[[D'Anna Biers]] states that "Four [of the Final Five] are in your fleet." ([[Revelations]]) At the time, [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Laura Roslin]], [[William Adama]] and [[Karl Agathon]] are not with the Fleet. Furthermore, [[Diana Seelix]] and [[Brendan Constanza]], as well as as several minor characters, are away from the Fleet as well.<br />
<br />
====Other====<br />
*Just before being boxed, [[D'Anna Biers]] tells Cavil, "There are five other Cylons, brother," ruling out any of the seven known models as also belonging to the Final Five ([[Rapture]]).<br />
*Commander Adama receives a mysterious note that "there are twelve Cylon models." ([[Miniseries]])<br />
*The often prophetic [[Leoben Conoy]] tells Laura Roslin that "Adama is a Cylon." At that time he should have no knowledge of the Final Five, and programming not to think about them.<br />
<br />
===Official Statements===<br />
*Season 4 will "further blur the line between Cylon and human" and "redefine what it is to be a Cylon"<br />
*[[Bradley Thompson]] stated "If memory serves, [the identity of the] fifth (which may change) we've been kicking around since about the end of Season One."<ref>[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive8#Identity of the Final Five|BW:OC#Identity of the Final Five]]</ref><br />
*During a Q&A session on the official Sci Fi channel Battlestar Galactica forum Ronald D. Moore notes that he already knows who the last Cylon is, and that he's already left clues as to who it is<ref>[http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2270103&st=0&p=3041263&#entry3041263 20 Answers - SCI FI FORUMS] Retrieved 03-27-2007</ref>.<br />
<br />
==Dead Characters==<br />
<br />
===[[Ellen Tigh]]===<br />
*Tigh burns a picture of Ellen with his cigar, giving her a big, glowing red eye ([[Miniseries]]).<br />
*Ellen's sudden appearance in the Fleet with no other person having a recollection as to how ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).<br />
*Ellen's appearance to her husband in visions while he is with [[Caprica Six]].<br />
<br />
===[[Zak Adama]]===<br />
*[[Lee Adama]] asks how his father would react if Zak returned in a new Viper and was suspected of being a Cylon, like [[Kara Thrace]] ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Joseph Adama]]===<br />
*Co-creator of the mechanical Cylons, and thus most closely tied to the Cylons among series characters (''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'').<br />
<br />
===[[Tamara Adama]]===<br />
*A Cylon was created based on her, but at present this Cylon and Tamara have only appeared in materials related to ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]''.<br />
*"Adama is a Cylon." In this case, Leoben could know this and even have downloaded memories from the Cylon version of Tamara.<br />
<br />
===[[Elosha]]===<br />
*Recent return as a spirit guide may hint at a larger role. However producer's statements say she was a quick last minute replacement for [[Billy Keikeya]].<br />
<br />
===[[Cally Tyrol]]===<br />
*The empty slot in Last Supper photo is paired with [[Galen Tyrol]]. Symmetry would put her in that seat.<br />
*Negative: She suffered greatly from exposure to vacuum with Galen, while he was not much harmed.<br />
*Negative: Her son Nicholas has been identified by Moore as half-human, half-Cylon.<br />
<br />
===[[Helena Cain]]===<br />
*She is in great need of redemption, given her actions.<br />
<br />
===[[Kendra Shaw]]===<br />
*Hungers for redemption.<br />
*Is the only person to hear the [[First Hybrid]]'s prophecies.<br />
<br />
==Characters Eliminated by "Last Supper" Photo or "Four in the Fleet" statement ==<br />
<br />
The following characters are eliminated from consideration by the clues above. However for those who feel those clues are misinterpreted, the following clues exist.<br />
<br />
===[[Kara Thrace]]===<br />
*To all appearances killed in explosion, then returns two months later in brand-new Viper ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).<br />
*Painting mandala since childhood.<br />
*Seeks redemption for destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' and the death of [[Zak Adama]].<br />
*Told by Leoben and oracles that she has a special [[The Destiny|destiny]].<br />
*Predicted by the [[First Hybrid]] to lead the human race to its end, to be the herald of the apocalypse and the harbinger of death ([[Razor]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Laura Roslin]]===<br />
*One of the few humans to experience Cylon related visions. (Possible explanations include [[chamalla]] and blood transfusions from [[Hera Agathon|Hera]].)<br />
*Also apparently shares [[Emily Kowalski]]'s dying vision of trip to afterlife ([[Faith]]).<br />
*Ruled out as being one of the four revealed members in podcast for "[[Crossroads, Part II]]".<br />
<br />
===[[Felix Gaeta]]===<br />
*Sings a [[Gaeta's Lament|song]] which could imply knowledge of a Cylon sleeper awakening.<br />
*Note: His stabbing of Baltar has [[Taking a Break From All Your Worries#From the podcast|an unaired explanation]].<br />
<br />
===[[Gaius Baltar]]===<br />
*Survives a nuclear explosion that destroys his home, essentially unscathed (Miniseries).<br />
*The Hybrid declares him "The Chosen One" and said he had "A mind that burns like fire." The secrets of the Temple of Five are only to be revealed to him ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
*Has a [[Virtual Six|Six in his head]] that claims to be an angel from God, as well as a [[Virtual Baltar]] similar to Caprica-Six's.<br />
*Seemingly able to cure a boy of viral meningitis by praying, as instructed by Virtual Six ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
*Seen as the messiah by a [[Cult of Baltar|cult]].<br />
*Unconsciously knows what part of Cylon base to attack ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).<br />
*By a considerable margin, the (living) character most in need of, and hungering for redemption, considering his role in the downfall of mankind.<br />
*Often hopes that he is a Cylon; has stated he would find redemption in learning he is a Cylon.<br />
*Cylons are uncannily attracted to him, and three of the four female models have had sexual relations with him.<br />
*After [[Number Three]] sees image of Final Five in Temple of Five, she declares to him "So beautiful. You were right." The primary thing he has been insisting to her is that he may be a Cylon.<br />
*Declared to be one of the smartest Colonials alive. Genius ability with computers. Demonstrable ability to cover up his background ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]).<br />
*Declared to be the father, with her, of the new hybrid race by Virtual Six ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).<br />
*Appears in visions of the [[Opera House]] seen by Roslin. He also sees the Opera House in visions led by his inner Six.<br />
*Receives special attention from [[D'Anna Biers]] after her return, more than any other character ([[The Hub]]).<br />
*While it is unlikely due to costume choices, the Baltar in the Last Supper photo could be the virtual Baltar who appears to both [[Caprica Six]] and Baltar himself, removing the real Baltar from the photo.<br />
<br />
===[[Anastasia Dualla]]===<br />
*An Adama by marriage, she was not an Adama when Leoben made his pronouncement ([[Flesh and Bone]]). Other clues remain inconclusive.<br />
*Her name, Anastasia means "resurrection" and Dualla means "duo" implying a duality of some kind.<br />
<br />
===[[William Adama]]===<br />
*One of the few to experience Cylon related visions (in the room with [[First Hybrid]]) ([[Razor]], extended version).<br />
*Negative: Ruled out as being one of the 4 revealed members in podcast for "Crossroads".<br />
*Seeks redemption over fear he started the war ([[Hero]]).<br />
*Although Conoy may well be lying in order to confuse Roslin in "[[Flesh and Bone]]", it appears most likely that he refers to William Adama.<br />
<br />
===[[Lee Adama]]===<br />
*Described as "in his father's shadow" by [[Romo Lampkin]].<br />
*Negative: Orders destruction of Temple of Five, which Final Five member Tyrol is unable to carry out.<br />
*Seeks some redemption for the destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.<br />
*A line about Zak being a Cylon referenced below may also subtly refer to him.<br />
*Sitting next to, and staring at the goblet in the missing Judas position in [[The Last Supper]].<br />
<br />
===Additional Cylons===<br />
*The Cylon [[God (RDM)|God]] is frequently referenced as a real and intervening being.<br />
*The [[First Hybrid]] states that his existence would "begin again in ways uncertain" after his destruction ([[Razor]]).<br />
*The [[Virtual beings]] sometimes possess knowledge indicating and existence outside the minds of their hosts.<br />
*Materials for ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' state that there were Cylon models based on the human memories of at least three people.<br />
*The nature of the being, represented by an internal image of Leoben Conoy, who appears to [[Kara Thrace]] in "[[Maelstrom]]" is unknown.<br />
*Original [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]] units not on the [[Guardian basestar]] when it is destroyed could still exist.<br />
*The slavery of the robotic Cylons has become an important Cylon issue. Non-biological forms could be represented in the Final Five.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references/></div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Humanoid_Cylon_speculation/ColdBoot&diff=165396Humanoid Cylon speculation/ColdBoot2008-07-09T11:28:10Z<p>Catrope: /* Laura Roslin */ )</p>
<hr />
<div>{{plausible speculation}}<br />
<br />
A central mystery of the fourth season, according to the opening titles, concerns who the last member of the Cylon [[Final Five]] is. What follows is a compilation of significant clues suggesting or refuting that a character is the final Cylon.<br />
<br />
==Notes on Clues==<br />
Clues as to the identity of hidden Cylons have been historically rare in the series. These are the clues which have actually pointed to a real Cylon:<br />
* [[Galen Tyrol]]'s compulsion to find [[Temple of Five]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
* [[Brother Cavil]] says "I'm [a Cylon] and I haven't seen you at the meetings" to Tyrol, foreshadowing that both characters are Cylons ([[Crossroads, Part I]]).<br />
* Tyrol's suffers less injuries than his wife when exposed to the vacuum of space ([[A Day in the Life]]).<br />
* The music heard by the four revealed final Cylons.<br />
<br />
Clues entered here must be concrete, from canon or official sources. They should be either:<br />
*Extrahuman events relating to a character.<br />
*Clear dramatic references to a Cylon nature.<br />
*Statements from official sources.<br />
<br />
Simple suspicious activity or hidden motives are found in all characters and should not be included. Clues should relate to specific extrahuman/Cylon events, or specific foreshadowing, not speculation of what might be true.<br />
<br />
===General Constraints===<br />
Any character, with the likely exceptions of [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Cally Tyrol]], who have fathered half-Cylon children with Cylons<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=hybridnick|timestamp=22:41|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref>, could be the final Cylon. The [[Final Five]] are a "fundamentally different"<br />
kind of Cylon <ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=ffdifferent|timestamp=19:05|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref> and having children, parents, an established past, injuries and a green light from the Cylon detector do not disqualify a character. Dead characters are not excluded. The final Cylon may or may not be aware of his or her nature. It is expected that the unmasking of the final Cylon will be a highly dramatic event, similar in grandeur to the revelation of the other four members of the Final Five.<br />
<br />
===Multi-character clues===<br />
====Statement by the First Hybrid====<br />
The [[First Hybrid]] says this about the final Cylon:<br />
"The fifth is still is in shadow, drawn toward the light, hungering for redemption, that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering."<br />
<br />
====Last Supper Photo====<br />
A promotional photo, entitled the "[[Last Supper]]" features an empty goblet which is suggested to belong to the final Cylon. In somewhat equivocal statements, when an interviewer wonders if the final Cylon is not in the photo (which contains all major characters). Moore replies "you feretted that out pretty slyly. I didn't really want to give that away." Moore later confirmed he was not equivocating, and really did reveal that the Cylon is not in the photo.<br />
<br />
Significant minor characters from Season 1 without specific clues listed below include [[Tom Zarek]], Doctor [[Cottle]] and dead characters [[Billy Keikeya]] and [[Ellen Tigh]]. (Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] did not appear in Season One).<br />
<br />
Other clues are related in the commentary surrounding this photo.<br />
<br />
====Four with the Fleet====<br />
[[D'Anna Biers]] states that "Four [of the Final Five] are in your fleet." ([[Revelations]]) At the time, [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Laura Roslin]], [[William Adama]] and [[Karl Agathon]] are not with the Fleet. Furthermore, [[Diana Seelix]] and [[Brendan Constanza]], as well as as several minor characters, are away from the Fleet as well.<br />
<br />
====Other====<br />
*Just before being boxed, [[D'Anna Biers]] tells Cavil, "There are five other Cylons, brother," ruling out any of the seven known models as also belonging to the Final Five ([[Rapture]]).<br />
*Commander Adama receives a mysterious note that "there are twelve Cylon models." ([[Miniseries]])<br />
*The often prophetic [[Leoben Conoy]] tells Laura Roslin that "Adama is a Cylon." At that time he should have no knowledge of the Final Five, and programming not to think about them.<br />
<br />
===Official Statements===<br />
*Season 4 will "further blur the line between Cylon and human" and "redefine what it is to be a Cylon"<br />
*[[Bradley Thompson]] stated "If memory serves, [the identity of the] fifth (which may change) we've been kicking around since about the end of Season One."<ref>[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive8#Identity of the Final Five|BW:OC#Identity of the Final Five]]</ref><br />
*During a Q&A session on the official Sci Fi channel Battlestar Galactica forum Ronald D. Moore notes that he already knows who the last Cylon is, and that he's already left clues as to who it is<ref>[http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2270103&st=0&p=3041263&#entry3041263 20 Answers - SCI FI FORUMS] Retrieved 03-27-2007</ref>.<br />
<br />
==Dead Characters==<br />
<br />
===[[Ellen Tigh]]===<br />
*Tigh burns a picture of Ellen with his cigar, giving her a big, glowing red eye ([[Miniseries]]).<br />
*Ellen's sudden appearance in the Fleet with no other person having a recollection as to how ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).<br />
*Ellen's appearance to her husband in visions while he is with [[Caprica Six]].<br />
<br />
===[[Zak Adama]]===<br />
*[[Lee Adama]] asks how his father would react if Zak returned in a new Viper and was suspected of being a Cylon, like [[Kara Thrace]] ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Joseph Adama]]===<br />
*Co-creator of the mechanical Cylons, and thus most closely tied to the Cylons among series characters (''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'').<br />
<br />
===[[Tamara Adama]]===<br />
*A Cylon was created based on her, but at present this Cylon and Tamara have only appeared in materials related to ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]''.<br />
*"Adama is a Cylon." In this case, Leoben could know this and even have downloaded memories from the Cylon version of Tamara.<br />
<br />
===[[Elosha]]===<br />
*Recent return as a spirit guide may hint at a larger role. However producer's statements say she was a quick last minute replacement for [[Billy Keikeya]].<br />
<br />
===[[Cally Tyrol]]===<br />
*The empty slot in Last Supper photo is paired with [[Galen Tyrol]]. Symmetry would put her in that seat.<br />
*Negative: She suffered greatly from exposure to vacuum with Galen, while he was not much harmed.<br />
*Negative: Her son Nicholas has been identified by Moore as half-human, half-Cylon.<br />
<br />
===[[Helena Cain]]===<br />
*She is in great need of redemption, given her actions.<br />
<br />
===[[Kendra Shaw]]===<br />
*Hungers for redemption.<br />
*Is the only person to hear the [[First Hybrid]]'s prophecies.<br />
<br />
==Characters Eliminated by "Last Supper" Photo or "Four in the Fleet" statement ==<br />
<br />
The following characters are eliminated from consideration by the clues above. However for those who feel those clues are misinterpreted, the following clues exist.<br />
<br />
===[[Kara Thrace]]===<br />
*To all appearances killed in explosion, then returns two months later in brand-new Viper ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).<br />
*Painting mandala since childhood.<br />
*Seeks redemption for destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' and the death of [[Zak Adama]].<br />
*Told by Leoben and oracles that she has a special [[The Destiny|destiny]].<br />
*Predicted by the [[First Hybrid]] to lead the human race to its end, to be the herald of the apocalypse and the harbinger of death ([[Razor]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Laura Roslin]]===<br />
*One of the few humans to experience Cylon related visions. (Possible explanations include [[chamalla]] and blood transfusions from [[Hera Agathon|Hera]].)<br />
*Also apparently shares [[Emily Kowalski]]'s dying vision of trip to afterlife ([[Faith]]).<br />
*Ruled out as being one of the four revealed members in podcast for "[[Crossroads, Part II]]".<br />
<br />
===[[Felix Gaeta]]===<br />
*Sings a [[Gaeta's Lament|song]] which could imply knowledge of a Cylon sleeper awakening.<br />
*Note: His stabbing of Baltar has [[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Taking an Break From All Your Worries#From the podcast|un unaired explanation]].<br />
<br />
===[[Gaius Baltar]]===<br />
*Survives a nuclear explosion that destroys his home, essentially unscathed (Miniseries).<br />
*The Hybrid declares him "The Chosen One" and said he had "A mind that burns like fire." The secrets of the Temple of Five are only to be revealed to him ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
*Has a [[Virtual Six|Six in his head]] that claims to be an angel from God, as well as a [[Virtual Baltar]] similar to Caprica-Six's.<br />
*Seemingly able to cure a boy of viral meningitis by praying, as instructed by Virtual Six ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
*Seen as the messiah by a [[Cult of Baltar|cult]].<br />
*Unconsciously knows what part of Cylon base to attack ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).<br />
*By a considerable margin, the (living) character most in need of, and hungering for redemption, considering his role in the downfall of mankind.<br />
*Often hopes that he is a Cylon; has stated he would find redemption in learning he is a Cylon.<br />
*Cylons are uncannily attracted to him, and three of the four female models have had sexual relations with him.<br />
*After [[Number Three]] sees image of Final Five in Temple of Five, she declares to him "So beautiful. You were right." The primary thing he has been insisting to her is that he may be a Cylon.<br />
*Declared to be one of the smartest Colonials alive. Genius ability with computers. Demonstrable ability to cover up his background ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]).<br />
*Declared to be the father, with her, of the new hybrid race by Virtual Six ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).<br />
*Appears in visions of the [[Opera House]] seen by Roslin. He also sees the Opera House in visions led by his inner Six.<br />
*Receives special attention from [[D'Anna Biers]] after her return, more than any other character ([[The Hub]]).<br />
*While it is unlikely due to costume choices, the Baltar in the Last Supper photo could be the virtual Baltar who appears to both [[Caprica Six]] and Baltar himself, removing the real Baltar from the photo.<br />
<br />
===[[Anastasia Dualla]]===<br />
*An Adama by marriage, she was not an Adama when Leoben made his pronouncement ([[Flesh and Bone]]). Other clues remain inconclusive.<br />
*Her name, Anastasia means "resurrection" and Dualla means "duo" implying a duality of some kind.<br />
<br />
===[[William Adama]]===<br />
*One of the few to experience Cylon related visions (in the room with [[First Hybrid]]) ([[Razor]], extended version).<br />
*Negative: Ruled out as being one of the 4 revealed members in podcast for "Crossroads".<br />
*Seeks redemption over fear he started the war ([[Hero]]).<br />
*Although Conoy may well be lying in order to confuse Roslin in "[[Flesh and Bone]]", it appears most likely that he refers to William Adama.<br />
<br />
===[[Lee Adama]]===<br />
*Described as "in his father's shadow" by [[Romo Lampkin]].<br />
*Negative: Orders destruction of Temple of Five, which Final Five member Tyrol is unable to carry out.<br />
*Seeks some redemption for the destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.<br />
*A line about Zak being a Cylon referenced below may also subtly refer to him.<br />
*Sitting next to, and staring at the goblet in the missing Judas position in [[The Last Supper]].<br />
<br />
===Additional Cylons===<br />
*The Cylon [[God (RDM)|God]] is frequently referenced as a real and intervening being.<br />
*The [[First Hybrid]] states that his existence would "begin again in ways uncertain" after his destruction ([[Razor]]).<br />
*The [[Virtual beings]] sometimes possess knowledge indicating and existence outside the minds of their hosts.<br />
*Materials for ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' state that there were Cylon models based on the human memories of at least three people.<br />
*The nature of the being, represented by an internal image of Leoben Conoy, who appears to [[Kara Thrace]] in "[[Maelstrom]]" is unknown.<br />
*Original [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]] units not on the [[Guardian basestar]] when it is destroyed could still exist.<br />
*The slavery of the robotic Cylons has become an important Cylon issue. Non-biological forms could be represented in the Final Five.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references/></div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Humanoid_Cylon_speculation/ColdBoot&diff=165395Humanoid Cylon speculation/ColdBoot2008-07-09T11:27:29Z<p>Catrope: /* Helena Cain */ grammar</p>
<hr />
<div>{{plausible speculation}}<br />
<br />
A central mystery of the fourth season, according to the opening titles, concerns who the last member of the Cylon [[Final Five]] is. What follows is a compilation of significant clues suggesting or refuting that a character is the final Cylon.<br />
<br />
==Notes on Clues==<br />
Clues as to the identity of hidden Cylons have been historically rare in the series. These are the clues which have actually pointed to a real Cylon:<br />
* [[Galen Tyrol]]'s compulsion to find [[Temple of Five]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
* [[Brother Cavil]] says "I'm [a Cylon] and I haven't seen you at the meetings" to Tyrol, foreshadowing that both characters are Cylons ([[Crossroads, Part I]]).<br />
* Tyrol's suffers less injuries than his wife when exposed to the vacuum of space ([[A Day in the Life]]).<br />
* The music heard by the four revealed final Cylons.<br />
<br />
Clues entered here must be concrete, from canon or official sources. They should be either:<br />
*Extrahuman events relating to a character.<br />
*Clear dramatic references to a Cylon nature.<br />
*Statements from official sources.<br />
<br />
Simple suspicious activity or hidden motives are found in all characters and should not be included. Clues should relate to specific extrahuman/Cylon events, or specific foreshadowing, not speculation of what might be true.<br />
<br />
===General Constraints===<br />
Any character, with the likely exceptions of [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Cally Tyrol]], who have fathered half-Cylon children with Cylons<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=hybridnick|timestamp=22:41|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref>, could be the final Cylon. The [[Final Five]] are a "fundamentally different"<br />
kind of Cylon <ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=ffdifferent|timestamp=19:05|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref> and having children, parents, an established past, injuries and a green light from the Cylon detector do not disqualify a character. Dead characters are not excluded. The final Cylon may or may not be aware of his or her nature. It is expected that the unmasking of the final Cylon will be a highly dramatic event, similar in grandeur to the revelation of the other four members of the Final Five.<br />
<br />
===Multi-character clues===<br />
====Statement by the First Hybrid====<br />
The [[First Hybrid]] says this about the final Cylon:<br />
"The fifth is still is in shadow, drawn toward the light, hungering for redemption, that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering."<br />
<br />
====Last Supper Photo====<br />
A promotional photo, entitled the "[[Last Supper]]" features an empty goblet which is suggested to belong to the final Cylon. In somewhat equivocal statements, when an interviewer wonders if the final Cylon is not in the photo (which contains all major characters). Moore replies "you feretted that out pretty slyly. I didn't really want to give that away." Moore later confirmed he was not equivocating, and really did reveal that the Cylon is not in the photo.<br />
<br />
Significant minor characters from Season 1 without specific clues listed below include [[Tom Zarek]], Doctor [[Cottle]] and dead characters [[Billy Keikeya]] and [[Ellen Tigh]]. (Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] did not appear in Season One).<br />
<br />
Other clues are related in the commentary surrounding this photo.<br />
<br />
====Four with the Fleet====<br />
[[D'Anna Biers]] states that "Four [of the Final Five] are in your fleet." ([[Revelations]]) At the time, [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Laura Roslin]], [[William Adama]] and [[Karl Agathon]] are not with the Fleet. Furthermore, [[Diana Seelix]] and [[Brendan Constanza]], as well as as several minor characters, are away from the Fleet as well.<br />
<br />
====Other====<br />
*Just before being boxed, [[D'Anna Biers]] tells Cavil, "There are five other Cylons, brother," ruling out any of the seven known models as also belonging to the Final Five ([[Rapture]]).<br />
*Commander Adama receives a mysterious note that "there are twelve Cylon models." ([[Miniseries]])<br />
*The often prophetic [[Leoben Conoy]] tells Laura Roslin that "Adama is a Cylon." At that time he should have no knowledge of the Final Five, and programming not to think about them.<br />
<br />
===Official Statements===<br />
*Season 4 will "further blur the line between Cylon and human" and "redefine what it is to be a Cylon"<br />
*[[Bradley Thompson]] stated "If memory serves, [the identity of the] fifth (which may change) we've been kicking around since about the end of Season One."<ref>[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive8#Identity of the Final Five|BW:OC#Identity of the Final Five]]</ref><br />
*During a Q&A session on the official Sci Fi channel Battlestar Galactica forum Ronald D. Moore notes that he already knows who the last Cylon is, and that he's already left clues as to who it is<ref>[http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2270103&st=0&p=3041263&#entry3041263 20 Answers - SCI FI FORUMS] Retrieved 03-27-2007</ref>.<br />
<br />
==Dead Characters==<br />
<br />
===[[Ellen Tigh]]===<br />
*Tigh burns a picture of Ellen with his cigar, giving her a big, glowing red eye ([[Miniseries]]).<br />
*Ellen's sudden appearance in the Fleet with no other person having a recollection as to how ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).<br />
*Ellen's appearance to her husband in visions while he is with [[Caprica Six]].<br />
<br />
===[[Zak Adama]]===<br />
*[[Lee Adama]] asks how his father would react if Zak returned in a new Viper and was suspected of being a Cylon, like [[Kara Thrace]] ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Joseph Adama]]===<br />
*Co-creator of the mechanical Cylons, and thus most closely tied to the Cylons among series characters (''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'').<br />
<br />
===[[Tamara Adama]]===<br />
*A Cylon was created based on her, but at present this Cylon and Tamara have only appeared in materials related to ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]''.<br />
*"Adama is a Cylon." In this case, Leoben could know this and even have downloaded memories from the Cylon version of Tamara.<br />
<br />
===[[Elosha]]===<br />
*Recent return as a spirit guide may hint at a larger role. However producer's statements say she was a quick last minute replacement for [[Billy Keikeya]].<br />
<br />
===[[Cally Tyrol]]===<br />
*The empty slot in Last Supper photo is paired with [[Galen Tyrol]]. Symmetry would put her in that seat.<br />
*Negative: She suffered greatly from exposure to vacuum with Galen, while he was not much harmed.<br />
*Negative: Her son Nicholas has been identified by Moore as half-human, half-Cylon.<br />
<br />
===[[Helena Cain]]===<br />
*She is in great need of redemption, given her actions.<br />
<br />
===[[Kendra Shaw]]===<br />
*Hungers for redemption.<br />
*Is the only person to hear the [[First Hybrid]]'s prophecies.<br />
<br />
==Characters Eliminated by "Last Supper" Photo or "Four in the Fleet" statement ==<br />
<br />
The following characters are eliminated from consideration by the clues above. However for those who feel those clues are misinterpreted, the following clues exist.<br />
<br />
===[[Kara Thrace]]===<br />
*To all appearances killed in explosion, then returns two months later in brand-new Viper ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).<br />
*Painting mandala since childhood.<br />
*Seeks redemption for destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' and the death of [[Zak Adama]].<br />
*Told by Leoben and oracles that she has a special [[The Destiny|destiny]].<br />
*Predicted by the [[First Hybrid]] to lead the human race to its end, to be the herald of the apocalypse and the harbinger of death ([[Razor]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Laura Roslin]]===<br />
*One of the few humans to experience Cylon related visions. (Possible explanations include [[chamalla]] and blood transfusions from [[Hera Agathon|Hera]].)<br />
*Also apparently shares [[Emily Kowalski]]'s dying vision of trip to afterlife ([[Faith]].<br />
*Ruled out as being one of the four revealed members in podcast for "[[Crossroads, Part II]]".<br />
<br />
===[[Felix Gaeta]]===<br />
*Sings a [[Gaeta's Lament|song]] which could imply knowledge of a Cylon sleeper awakening.<br />
*Note: His stabbing of Baltar has [[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Taking an Break From All Your Worries#From the podcast|un unaired explanation]].<br />
<br />
===[[Gaius Baltar]]===<br />
*Survives a nuclear explosion that destroys his home, essentially unscathed (Miniseries).<br />
*The Hybrid declares him "The Chosen One" and said he had "A mind that burns like fire." The secrets of the Temple of Five are only to be revealed to him ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
*Has a [[Virtual Six|Six in his head]] that claims to be an angel from God, as well as a [[Virtual Baltar]] similar to Caprica-Six's.<br />
*Seemingly able to cure a boy of viral meningitis by praying, as instructed by Virtual Six ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
*Seen as the messiah by a [[Cult of Baltar|cult]].<br />
*Unconsciously knows what part of Cylon base to attack ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).<br />
*By a considerable margin, the (living) character most in need of, and hungering for redemption, considering his role in the downfall of mankind.<br />
*Often hopes that he is a Cylon; has stated he would find redemption in learning he is a Cylon.<br />
*Cylons are uncannily attracted to him, and three of the four female models have had sexual relations with him.<br />
*After [[Number Three]] sees image of Final Five in Temple of Five, she declares to him "So beautiful. You were right." The primary thing he has been insisting to her is that he may be a Cylon.<br />
*Declared to be one of the smartest Colonials alive. Genius ability with computers. Demonstrable ability to cover up his background ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]).<br />
*Declared to be the father, with her, of the new hybrid race by Virtual Six ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).<br />
*Appears in visions of the [[Opera House]] seen by Roslin. He also sees the Opera House in visions led by his inner Six.<br />
*Receives special attention from [[D'Anna Biers]] after her return, more than any other character ([[The Hub]]).<br />
*While it is unlikely due to costume choices, the Baltar in the Last Supper photo could be the virtual Baltar who appears to both [[Caprica Six]] and Baltar himself, removing the real Baltar from the photo.<br />
<br />
===[[Anastasia Dualla]]===<br />
*An Adama by marriage, she was not an Adama when Leoben made his pronouncement ([[Flesh and Bone]]). Other clues remain inconclusive.<br />
*Her name, Anastasia means "resurrection" and Dualla means "duo" implying a duality of some kind.<br />
<br />
===[[William Adama]]===<br />
*One of the few to experience Cylon related visions (in the room with [[First Hybrid]]) ([[Razor]], extended version).<br />
*Negative: Ruled out as being one of the 4 revealed members in podcast for "Crossroads".<br />
*Seeks redemption over fear he started the war ([[Hero]]).<br />
*Although Conoy may well be lying in order to confuse Roslin in "[[Flesh and Bone]]", it appears most likely that he refers to William Adama.<br />
<br />
===[[Lee Adama]]===<br />
*Described as "in his father's shadow" by [[Romo Lampkin]].<br />
*Negative: Orders destruction of Temple of Five, which Final Five member Tyrol is unable to carry out.<br />
*Seeks some redemption for the destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.<br />
*A line about Zak being a Cylon referenced below may also subtly refer to him.<br />
*Sitting next to, and staring at the goblet in the missing Judas position in [[The Last Supper]].<br />
<br />
===Additional Cylons===<br />
*The Cylon [[God (RDM)|God]] is frequently referenced as a real and intervening being.<br />
*The [[First Hybrid]] states that his existence would "begin again in ways uncertain" after his destruction ([[Razor]]).<br />
*The [[Virtual beings]] sometimes possess knowledge indicating and existence outside the minds of their hosts.<br />
*Materials for ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' state that there were Cylon models based on the human memories of at least three people.<br />
*The nature of the being, represented by an internal image of Leoben Conoy, who appears to [[Kara Thrace]] in "[[Maelstrom]]" is unknown.<br />
*Original [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]] units not on the [[Guardian basestar]] when it is destroyed could still exist.<br />
*The slavery of the robotic Cylons has become an important Cylon issue. Non-biological forms could be represented in the Final Five.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references/></div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Humanoid_Cylon_speculation/ColdBoot&diff=165394Humanoid Cylon speculation/ColdBoot2008-07-09T11:26:04Z<p>Catrope: /* Official Statements */ correcting quote</p>
<hr />
<div>{{plausible speculation}}<br />
<br />
A central mystery of the fourth season, according to the opening titles, concerns who the last member of the Cylon [[Final Five]] is. What follows is a compilation of significant clues suggesting or refuting that a character is the final Cylon.<br />
<br />
==Notes on Clues==<br />
Clues as to the identity of hidden Cylons have been historically rare in the series. These are the clues which have actually pointed to a real Cylon:<br />
* [[Galen Tyrol]]'s compulsion to find [[Temple of Five]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
* [[Brother Cavil]] says "I'm [a Cylon] and I haven't seen you at the meetings" to Tyrol, foreshadowing that both characters are Cylons ([[Crossroads, Part I]]).<br />
* Tyrol's suffers less injuries than his wife when exposed to the vacuum of space ([[A Day in the Life]]).<br />
* The music heard by the four revealed final Cylons.<br />
<br />
Clues entered here must be concrete, from canon or official sources. They should be either:<br />
*Extrahuman events relating to a character.<br />
*Clear dramatic references to a Cylon nature.<br />
*Statements from official sources.<br />
<br />
Simple suspicious activity or hidden motives are found in all characters and should not be included. Clues should relate to specific extrahuman/Cylon events, or specific foreshadowing, not speculation of what might be true.<br />
<br />
===General Constraints===<br />
Any character, with the likely exceptions of [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Cally Tyrol]], who have fathered half-Cylon children with Cylons<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=hybridnick|timestamp=22:41|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref>, could be the final Cylon. The [[Final Five]] are a "fundamentally different"<br />
kind of Cylon <ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=ffdifferent|timestamp=19:05|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref> and having children, parents, an established past, injuries and a green light from the Cylon detector do not disqualify a character. Dead characters are not excluded. The final Cylon may or may not be aware of his or her nature. It is expected that the unmasking of the final Cylon will be a highly dramatic event, similar in grandeur to the revelation of the other four members of the Final Five.<br />
<br />
===Multi-character clues===<br />
====Statement by the First Hybrid====<br />
The [[First Hybrid]] says this about the final Cylon:<br />
"The fifth is still is in shadow, drawn toward the light, hungering for redemption, that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering."<br />
<br />
====Last Supper Photo====<br />
A promotional photo, entitled the "[[Last Supper]]" features an empty goblet which is suggested to belong to the final Cylon. In somewhat equivocal statements, when an interviewer wonders if the final Cylon is not in the photo (which contains all major characters). Moore replies "you feretted that out pretty slyly. I didn't really want to give that away." Moore later confirmed he was not equivocating, and really did reveal that the Cylon is not in the photo.<br />
<br />
Significant minor characters from Season 1 without specific clues listed below include [[Tom Zarek]], Doctor [[Cottle]] and dead characters [[Billy Keikeya]] and [[Ellen Tigh]]. (Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] did not appear in Season One).<br />
<br />
Other clues are related in the commentary surrounding this photo.<br />
<br />
====Four with the Fleet====<br />
[[D'Anna Biers]] states that "Four [of the Final Five] are in your fleet." ([[Revelations]]) At the time, [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Laura Roslin]], [[William Adama]] and [[Karl Agathon]] are not with the Fleet. Furthermore, [[Diana Seelix]] and [[Brendan Constanza]], as well as as several minor characters, are away from the Fleet as well.<br />
<br />
====Other====<br />
*Just before being boxed, [[D'Anna Biers]] tells Cavil, "There are five other Cylons, brother," ruling out any of the seven known models as also belonging to the Final Five ([[Rapture]]).<br />
*Commander Adama receives a mysterious note that "there are twelve Cylon models." ([[Miniseries]])<br />
*The often prophetic [[Leoben Conoy]] tells Laura Roslin that "Adama is a Cylon." At that time he should have no knowledge of the Final Five, and programming not to think about them.<br />
<br />
===Official Statements===<br />
*Season 4 will "further blur the line between Cylon and human" and "redefine what it is to be a Cylon"<br />
*[[Bradley Thompson]] stated "If memory serves, [the identity of the] fifth (which may change) we've been kicking around since about the end of Season One."<ref>[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive8#Identity of the Final Five|BW:OC#Identity of the Final Five]]</ref><br />
*During a Q&A session on the official Sci Fi channel Battlestar Galactica forum Ronald D. Moore notes that he already knows who the last Cylon is, and that he's already left clues as to who it is<ref>[http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2270103&st=0&p=3041263&#entry3041263 20 Answers - SCI FI FORUMS] Retrieved 03-27-2007</ref>.<br />
<br />
==Dead Characters==<br />
<br />
===[[Ellen Tigh]]===<br />
*Tigh burns a picture of Ellen with his cigar, giving her a big, glowing red eye ([[Miniseries]]).<br />
*Ellen's sudden appearance in the Fleet with no other person having a recollection as to how ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).<br />
*Ellen's appearance to her husband in visions while he is with [[Caprica Six]].<br />
<br />
===[[Zak Adama]]===<br />
*[[Lee Adama]] asks how his father would react if Zak returned in a new Viper and was suspected of being a Cylon, like [[Kara Thrace]] ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Joseph Adama]]===<br />
*Co-creator of the mechanical Cylons, and thus most closely tied to the Cylons among series characters (''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'').<br />
<br />
===[[Tamara Adama]]===<br />
*A Cylon was created based on her, but at present this Cylon and Tamara have only appeared in materials related to ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]''.<br />
*"Adama is a Cylon." In this case, Leoben could know this and even have downloaded memories from the Cylon version of Tamara.<br />
<br />
===[[Elosha]]===<br />
*Recent return as a spirit guide may hint at a larger role. However producer's statements say she was a quick last minute replacement for [[Billy Keikeya]].<br />
<br />
===[[Cally Tyrol]]===<br />
*The empty slot in Last Supper photo is paired with [[Galen Tyrol]]. Symmetry would put her in that seat.<br />
*Negative: She suffered greatly from exposure to vacuum with Galen, while he was not much harmed.<br />
*Negative: Her son Nicholas has been identified by Moore as half-human, half-Cylon.<br />
<br />
===[[Helena Cain]]===<br />
*She is in great need of redemption, giving her actions.<br />
<br />
===[[Kendra Shaw]]===<br />
*Hungers for redemption.<br />
*Is the only person to hear the [[First Hybrid]]'s prophecies.<br />
<br />
==Characters Eliminated by "Last Supper" Photo or "Four in the Fleet" statement ==<br />
<br />
The following characters are eliminated from consideration by the clues above. However for those who feel those clues are misinterpreted, the following clues exist.<br />
<br />
===[[Kara Thrace]]===<br />
*To all appearances killed in explosion, then returns two months later in brand-new Viper ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).<br />
*Painting mandala since childhood.<br />
*Seeks redemption for destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' and the death of [[Zak Adama]].<br />
*Told by Leoben and oracles that she has a special [[The Destiny|destiny]].<br />
*Predicted by the [[First Hybrid]] to lead the human race to its end, to be the herald of the apocalypse and the harbinger of death ([[Razor]]).<br />
<br />
===[[Laura Roslin]]===<br />
*One of the few humans to experience Cylon related visions. (Possible explanations include [[chamalla]] and blood transfusions from [[Hera Agathon|Hera]].)<br />
*Also apparently shares [[Emily Kowalski]]'s dying vision of trip to afterlife ([[Faith]].<br />
*Ruled out as being one of the four revealed members in podcast for "[[Crossroads, Part II]]".<br />
<br />
===[[Felix Gaeta]]===<br />
*Sings a [[Gaeta's Lament|song]] which could imply knowledge of a Cylon sleeper awakening.<br />
*Note: His stabbing of Baltar has [[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Taking an Break From All Your Worries#From the podcast|un unaired explanation]].<br />
<br />
===[[Gaius Baltar]]===<br />
*Survives a nuclear explosion that destroys his home, essentially unscathed (Miniseries).<br />
*The Hybrid declares him "The Chosen One" and said he had "A mind that burns like fire." The secrets of the Temple of Five are only to be revealed to him ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
*Has a [[Virtual Six|Six in his head]] that claims to be an angel from God, as well as a [[Virtual Baltar]] similar to Caprica-Six's.<br />
*Seemingly able to cure a boy of viral meningitis by praying, as instructed by Virtual Six ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
*Seen as the messiah by a [[Cult of Baltar|cult]].<br />
*Unconsciously knows what part of Cylon base to attack ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).<br />
*By a considerable margin, the (living) character most in need of, and hungering for redemption, considering his role in the downfall of mankind.<br />
*Often hopes that he is a Cylon; has stated he would find redemption in learning he is a Cylon.<br />
*Cylons are uncannily attracted to him, and three of the four female models have had sexual relations with him.<br />
*After [[Number Three]] sees image of Final Five in Temple of Five, she declares to him "So beautiful. You were right." The primary thing he has been insisting to her is that he may be a Cylon.<br />
*Declared to be one of the smartest Colonials alive. Genius ability with computers. Demonstrable ability to cover up his background ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]).<br />
*Declared to be the father, with her, of the new hybrid race by Virtual Six ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).<br />
*Appears in visions of the [[Opera House]] seen by Roslin. He also sees the Opera House in visions led by his inner Six.<br />
*Receives special attention from [[D'Anna Biers]] after her return, more than any other character ([[The Hub]]).<br />
*While it is unlikely due to costume choices, the Baltar in the Last Supper photo could be the virtual Baltar who appears to both [[Caprica Six]] and Baltar himself, removing the real Baltar from the photo.<br />
<br />
===[[Anastasia Dualla]]===<br />
*An Adama by marriage, she was not an Adama when Leoben made his pronouncement ([[Flesh and Bone]]). Other clues remain inconclusive.<br />
*Her name, Anastasia means "resurrection" and Dualla means "duo" implying a duality of some kind.<br />
<br />
===[[William Adama]]===<br />
*One of the few to experience Cylon related visions (in the room with [[First Hybrid]]) ([[Razor]], extended version).<br />
*Negative: Ruled out as being one of the 4 revealed members in podcast for "Crossroads".<br />
*Seeks redemption over fear he started the war ([[Hero]]).<br />
*Although Conoy may well be lying in order to confuse Roslin in "[[Flesh and Bone]]", it appears most likely that he refers to William Adama.<br />
<br />
===[[Lee Adama]]===<br />
*Described as "in his father's shadow" by [[Romo Lampkin]].<br />
*Negative: Orders destruction of Temple of Five, which Final Five member Tyrol is unable to carry out.<br />
*Seeks some redemption for the destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.<br />
*A line about Zak being a Cylon referenced below may also subtly refer to him.<br />
*Sitting next to, and staring at the goblet in the missing Judas position in [[The Last Supper]].<br />
<br />
===Additional Cylons===<br />
*The Cylon [[God (RDM)|God]] is frequently referenced as a real and intervening being.<br />
*The [[First Hybrid]] states that his existence would "begin again in ways uncertain" after his destruction ([[Razor]]).<br />
*The [[Virtual beings]] sometimes possess knowledge indicating and existence outside the minds of their hosts.<br />
*Materials for ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' state that there were Cylon models based on the human memories of at least three people.<br />
*The nature of the being, represented by an internal image of Leoben Conoy, who appears to [[Kara Thrace]] in "[[Maelstrom]]" is unknown.<br />
*Original [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]] units not on the [[Guardian basestar]] when it is destroyed could still exist.<br />
*The slavery of the robotic Cylons has become an important Cylon issue. Non-biological forms could be represented in the Final Five.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references/></div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Humanoid_Cylon_speculation/ColdBoot&diff=165393Humanoid Cylon speculation/ColdBoot2008-07-09T11:24:06Z<p>Catrope: /* General Constraints */ grammar</p>
<hr />
<div>{{plausible speculation}}<br />
<br />
A central mystery of the fourth season, according to the opening titles, concerns who the last member of the Cylon [[Final Five]] is. What follows is a compilation of significant clues suggesting or refuting that a character is the final Cylon.<br />
<br />
==Notes on Clues==<br />
Clues as to the identity of hidden Cylons have been historically rare in the series. These are the clues which have actually pointed to a real Cylon:<br />
* [[Galen Tyrol]]'s compulsion to find [[Temple of Five]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
* [[Brother Cavil]] says "I'm [a Cylon] and I haven't seen you at the meetings" to Tyrol, foreshadowing that both characters are Cylons ([[Crossroads, Part I]]).<br />
* Tyrol's suffers less injuries than his wife when exposed to the vacuum of space ([[A Day in the Life]]).<br />
* The music heard by the four revealed final Cylons.<br />
<br />
Clues entered here must be concrete, from canon or official sources. They should be either:<br />
*Extrahuman events relating to a character.<br />
*Clear dramatic references to a Cylon nature.<br />
*Statements from official sources.<br />
<br />
Simple suspicious activity or hidden motives are found in all characters and should not be included. Clues should relate to specific extrahuman/Cylon events, or specific foreshadowing, not speculation of what might be true.<br />
<br />
===General Constraints===<br />
Any character, with the likely exceptions of [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Cally Tyrol]], who have fathered half-Cylon children with Cylons<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=hybridnick|timestamp=22:41|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref>, could be the final Cylon. The [[Final Five]] are a "fundamentally different"<br />
kind of Cylon <ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=ffdifferent|timestamp=19:05|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref> and having children, parents, an established past, injuries and a green light from the Cylon detector do not disqualify a character. Dead characters are not excluded. The final Cylon may or may not be aware of his or her nature. It is expected that the unmasking of the final Cylon will be a highly dramatic event, similar in grandeur to the revelation of the other four members of the Final Five.<br />
<br />
===Multi-character clues===<br />
====Statement by the First Hybrid====<br />
The [[First Hybrid]] says this about the final Cylon:<br />
"The fifth is still is in shadow, drawn toward the light, hungering for redemption, that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering."<br />
<br />
====Last Supper Photo====<br />
A promotional photo, entitled the "[[Last Supper]]" features an empty goblet which is suggested to belong to the final Cylon. In somewhat equivocal statements, when an interviewer wonders if the final Cylon is not in the photo (which contains all major characters). Moore replies "you feretted that out pretty slyly. I didn't really want to give that away." Moore later confirmed he was not equivocating, and really did reveal that the Cylon is not in the photo.<br />
<br />
Significant minor characters from Season 1 without specific clues listed below include [[Tom Zarek]], Doctor [[Cottle]] and dead characters [[Billy Keikeya]] and [[Ellen Tigh]]. (Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] did not appear in Season One).<br />
<br />
Other clues are related in the commentary surrounding this photo.<br />
<br />
====Four with the Fleet====<br />
[[D'Anna Biers]] states that "Four [of the Final Five] are in your fleet." ([[Revelations]]) At the time, [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Laura Roslin]], [[William Adama]] and [[Karl Agathon]] are not with the Fleet. Furthermore, [[Diana Seelix]] and [[Brendan Constanza]], as well as as several minor characters, are away from the Fleet as well.<br />
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====Other====<br />
*Just before being boxed, [[D'Anna Biers]] tells Cavil, "There are five other Cylons, brother," ruling out any of the seven known models as also belonging to the Final Five ([[Rapture]]).<br />
*Commander Adama receives a mysterious note that "there are twelve Cylon models." ([[Miniseries]])<br />
*The often prophetic [[Leoben Conoy]] tells Laura Roslin that "Adama is a Cylon." At that time he should have no knowledge of the Final Five, and programming not to think about them.<br />
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===Official Statements===<br />
*Season 4 will "further blur the line between Cylon and human" and "redefine what it is to be a Cylon"<br />
*[[Bradley Thompson]] stated "If memory services, [the identity of the] fifth (which may change) we've been kicking around since about the end of Season One."<ref>[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive8#Identity of the Final Five|BW:OC#Identity of the Final Five]]</ref><br />
*During a Q&A session on the official Sci Fi channel Battlestar Galactica forum Ronald D. Moore notes that he already knows who the last Cylon is, and that he's already left clues as to who it is<ref>[http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2270103&st=0&p=3041263&#entry3041263 20 Answers - SCI FI FORUMS] Retrieved 03-27-2007</ref>.<br />
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==Dead Characters==<br />
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===[[Ellen Tigh]]===<br />
*Tigh burns a picture of Ellen with his cigar, giving her a big, glowing red eye ([[Miniseries]]).<br />
*Ellen's sudden appearance in the Fleet with no other person having a recollection as to how ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).<br />
*Ellen's appearance to her husband in visions while he is with [[Caprica Six]].<br />
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===[[Zak Adama]]===<br />
*[[Lee Adama]] asks how his father would react if Zak returned in a new Viper and was suspected of being a Cylon, like [[Kara Thrace]] ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
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===[[Joseph Adama]]===<br />
*Co-creator of the mechanical Cylons, and thus most closely tied to the Cylons among series characters (''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'').<br />
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===[[Tamara Adama]]===<br />
*A Cylon was created based on her, but at present this Cylon and Tamara have only appeared in materials related to ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]''.<br />
*"Adama is a Cylon." In this case, Leoben could know this and even have downloaded memories from the Cylon version of Tamara.<br />
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===[[Elosha]]===<br />
*Recent return as a spirit guide may hint at a larger role. However producer's statements say she was a quick last minute replacement for [[Billy Keikeya]].<br />
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===[[Cally Tyrol]]===<br />
*The empty slot in Last Supper photo is paired with [[Galen Tyrol]]. Symmetry would put her in that seat.<br />
*Negative: She suffered greatly from exposure to vacuum with Galen, while he was not much harmed.<br />
*Negative: Her son Nicholas has been identified by Moore as half-human, half-Cylon.<br />
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===[[Helena Cain]]===<br />
*She is in great need of redemption, giving her actions.<br />
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===[[Kendra Shaw]]===<br />
*Hungers for redemption.<br />
*Is the only person to hear the [[First Hybrid]]'s prophecies.<br />
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==Characters Eliminated by "Last Supper" Photo or "Four in the Fleet" statement ==<br />
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The following characters are eliminated from consideration by the clues above. However for those who feel those clues are misinterpreted, the following clues exist.<br />
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===[[Kara Thrace]]===<br />
*To all appearances killed in explosion, then returns two months later in brand-new Viper ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).<br />
*Painting mandala since childhood.<br />
*Seeks redemption for destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' and the death of [[Zak Adama]].<br />
*Told by Leoben and oracles that she has a special [[The Destiny|destiny]].<br />
*Predicted by the [[First Hybrid]] to lead the human race to its end, to be the herald of the apocalypse and the harbinger of death ([[Razor]]).<br />
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===[[Laura Roslin]]===<br />
*One of the few humans to experience Cylon related visions. (Possible explanations include [[chamalla]] and blood transfusions from [[Hera Agathon|Hera]].)<br />
*Also apparently shares [[Emily Kowalski]]'s dying vision of trip to afterlife ([[Faith]].<br />
*Ruled out as being one of the four revealed members in podcast for "[[Crossroads, Part II]]".<br />
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===[[Felix Gaeta]]===<br />
*Sings a [[Gaeta's Lament|song]] which could imply knowledge of a Cylon sleeper awakening.<br />
*Note: His stabbing of Baltar has [[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Taking an Break From All Your Worries#From the podcast|un unaired explanation]].<br />
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===[[Gaius Baltar]]===<br />
*Survives a nuclear explosion that destroys his home, essentially unscathed (Miniseries).<br />
*The Hybrid declares him "The Chosen One" and said he had "A mind that burns like fire." The secrets of the Temple of Five are only to be revealed to him ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).<br />
*Has a [[Virtual Six|Six in his head]] that claims to be an angel from God, as well as a [[Virtual Baltar]] similar to Caprica-Six's.<br />
*Seemingly able to cure a boy of viral meningitis by praying, as instructed by Virtual Six ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).<br />
*Seen as the messiah by a [[Cult of Baltar|cult]].<br />
*Unconsciously knows what part of Cylon base to attack ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).<br />
*By a considerable margin, the (living) character most in need of, and hungering for redemption, considering his role in the downfall of mankind.<br />
*Often hopes that he is a Cylon; has stated he would find redemption in learning he is a Cylon.<br />
*Cylons are uncannily attracted to him, and three of the four female models have had sexual relations with him.<br />
*After [[Number Three]] sees image of Final Five in Temple of Five, she declares to him "So beautiful. You were right." The primary thing he has been insisting to her is that he may be a Cylon.<br />
*Declared to be one of the smartest Colonials alive. Genius ability with computers. Demonstrable ability to cover up his background ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]).<br />
*Declared to be the father, with her, of the new hybrid race by Virtual Six ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).<br />
*Appears in visions of the [[Opera House]] seen by Roslin. He also sees the Opera House in visions led by his inner Six.<br />
*Receives special attention from [[D'Anna Biers]] after her return, more than any other character ([[The Hub]]).<br />
*While it is unlikely due to costume choices, the Baltar in the Last Supper photo could be the virtual Baltar who appears to both [[Caprica Six]] and Baltar himself, removing the real Baltar from the photo.<br />
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===[[Anastasia Dualla]]===<br />
*An Adama by marriage, she was not an Adama when Leoben made his pronouncement ([[Flesh and Bone]]). Other clues remain inconclusive.<br />
*Her name, Anastasia means "resurrection" and Dualla means "duo" implying a duality of some kind.<br />
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===[[William Adama]]===<br />
*One of the few to experience Cylon related visions (in the room with [[First Hybrid]]) ([[Razor]], extended version).<br />
*Negative: Ruled out as being one of the 4 revealed members in podcast for "Crossroads".<br />
*Seeks redemption over fear he started the war ([[Hero]]).<br />
*Although Conoy may well be lying in order to confuse Roslin in "[[Flesh and Bone]]", it appears most likely that he refers to William Adama.<br />
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===[[Lee Adama]]===<br />
*Described as "in his father's shadow" by [[Romo Lampkin]].<br />
*Negative: Orders destruction of Temple of Five, which Final Five member Tyrol is unable to carry out.<br />
*Seeks some redemption for the destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.<br />
*A line about Zak being a Cylon referenced below may also subtly refer to him.<br />
*Sitting next to, and staring at the goblet in the missing Judas position in [[The Last Supper]].<br />
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===Additional Cylons===<br />
*The Cylon [[God (RDM)|God]] is frequently referenced as a real and intervening being.<br />
*The [[First Hybrid]] states that his existence would "begin again in ways uncertain" after his destruction ([[Razor]]).<br />
*The [[Virtual beings]] sometimes possess knowledge indicating and existence outside the minds of their hosts.<br />
*Materials for ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' state that there were Cylon models based on the human memories of at least three people.<br />
*The nature of the being, represented by an internal image of Leoben Conoy, who appears to [[Kara Thrace]] in "[[Maelstrom]]" is unknown.<br />
*Original [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]] units not on the [[Guardian basestar]] when it is destroyed could still exist.<br />
*The slavery of the robotic Cylons has become an important Cylon issue. Non-biological forms could be represented in the Final Five.<br />
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==References==<br />
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<div>A "Lt. Gonzo Pike" is also listed on the [[:Image:GoBetween260607.jpg|casting sheet]] for "[[The Ties That Bind]]" for what it's worth. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:01, 18 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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The convention report attributes the forest scenes to episode '''11'''. Since other reports state that they have shut down after episode 13, this like means that they are the same by episode numbers. "Revelations" is episode 10 however! --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 01:57, 20 November 2007 (CST)<br />
: Here's the thing though... is Katee counting "Razor" as one episode? If so, then that makes "Revelations" episode 11, by her count. Also, about 4.13... it seems that there are only 10 episodes "in the can", as far as I can determine. Also, production numbers can be taken out of order; it's happened before to series such as ''Babylon 5'' and even the original BSG. So, 4.13... Is ''that'' episode 11, or is that part of episode 10, which may be extended? Plus we have two missing episodes that are unaccounted for, 4.07 and 4.09. <br />
: To be honest, it's a bit confusing. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 09:55, 21 November 2007 (CST)<br />
::Right. Counting "Razor" as one episode makes this correct again. That's probably the case. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:36, 21 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== 4.0 finale? ==<br />
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Is this the finale to the first half of the season? [[User:OTW|OTW]] 21:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I'd venture a "yes". Not only is the episode #10 out of 20 (excluding "Razor"), but the SciFi Channel doesn't list it either on the site in general or on their schedule. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 12:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:It's the mid-season cliffhanger... Should add that to the notes. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Advance screening ==<br />
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Since the episode apparently has an [http://syfyportal.com/news425104.html advance screening] tomorrow, maybe we should lock the article. I vaguely I recall that a similar screening resulted in the episode summary or analysis to be written. That's not so bad, but we have no way to verify the stuff. Plus, I don't think we should spoil it for everyone just because a handful of people have seen the episode already. It's probably not that likely that there will be massive edits, but taking precautions doesn't hurt. Someone might also read spoilers somewhere else and try to add them here. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
: I believe you are referring to "Razor". And, well, despite the advanced screening any content from it is still considered a [[BW:SP|spoiler]], since it hasn't made a nation-wide airing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Ah yes, Razor. That was just an internet leak though and we could easily obtain a copy as well. That's not the case with a theater screening. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, if you recall, it was also screened in certain markets about a week before the air date. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Location on earth ==<br />
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To me the location on earth looked a bit like the ruins of Ellis Island with New York City in the backround. Am I way off? --[[User:Laisak|Laisak]] 10:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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It's Brooklyn. [http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/913/bsgbrooklynbridgeyx0.jpg Check it out].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 11:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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You are right. I didn't think that was a bridge, just a girder. --[[User:Laisak|Laisak]] 12:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== 5th Cylon ==<br />
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<blockquote>“Is Number Three honest in her claim that there are only four of the Final Five in the Fleet? If so, where is the fifth and last Cylon? If she's lying, is it because she still harbors distrust for her compatriots and the humans?”</blockquote><br />
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Perhaps the 5th is already on the Basestar? [[User:Nerull|Nerull]] 13:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Were there any other major characters except Baltar and Roslin? Roslin is pretty much ruled out by the joke Five made. --[[User:Laisak|Laisak]] 13:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Karl Agathon was still on the baseship, but he's human, as far as we know. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, this is weird. Are there any major characters anywhere else? I mean, there are three Cylon models + Boomer in the Cylon fleet but they're not exactly good candidates. Did we leave someone behind somewhere? Surely, the final Cylon isn't dead. It has to be a major character. I guess it has to be one of Helo/Roslin/Baltar. I think that Roslin would be the most likely of those. The 3's question could have been meant in earnest. [[User:Haukurth|Haukurth]] 15:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I'm stretching this, but the five are supposed to find the way to earth. Chief, Sam and Tigh find the Viper (this could also make Starbuck a Cylon) and Roslin gives the final go for jump. There is a problem with Tory, she does nothing. --[[User:Laisak|Laisak]] 14:09, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: Tory can't do anything because the call summons her to ''Galactica'', where Starbuck's Viper is. Obviously, she's disconnected from the rest of the Four, so she has the adverse reaction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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What about Hera? D'anna was only "interested" in the four, and that way opened the door for another less important (for now) cylon......<br />
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My thoughts were, D'anna says four are in the fleet. She also freaks out and apologizes to what is presumably the fifth cylon in her vision in a way that suggests it's personal. What if the fifth cylon is someone in the fleet who was killed either by her or the cylons as a group that she then recognized? Any people who were previously killed off by D'anna or the cylons in general that could fill that slot? I wanted to say Ellen Tigh, but Baltar did the test on her and if she'd come up positive he wouldn't be wondering who the fifth is like everyone else. --[[User:Ssiixx|Ssiixx]] 23:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Though this would be an anti climax I assume that the fifth final five is none of the caracters we already now. I think he is located on earth, maybe waiting in some bunker or whatever. He could also be on his own ship, not too far away from the cylons and humans, watching. <br />
Since there is a lot more to explain about the time that passed from the end of the cylon war to their reappearing, I assume that the last cylon is also the link between the twelve human cylon models and the rest of the cylon race. Even if he IS the rest. [[User:Lincore|Lincore]] 02:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:From a narrative perspective, it is improbable that D'Anna was being absurdly literal, excluding a character who happened to be on the basestar at the moment she said "There are four in your fleet." Since her goal was to get the final five to the basestar, it would make little sense for her to ignore one that was already there.<br />
:I think the living human characters are fairly effectively ruled out, but that doesn't necessarily entail an anti-climactic revelation to come. On the contrary, revealing Adama, Apollo, Starbuck, Roslin, or Baltar to be a Cylon is exactly what is expected, and this is a show which is built on defying expectations. What is needed to create a suitable climax for the series as a whole is not simply a revelation of the sort, "____ was a Cylon all along!" Instead, it needs to be a revelation that lays bare the show's mythology, that explains what happened three thousand years ago and why all of this seems to have been manipulated into occurring today. To fulfill that function a non-central character that played a crucial role in the past actually works better.<br />
:Of course, it could all be foilers, and it could just be Roslin.--[[User:Hylas|Hylas]] 19:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Earth - Speculation ==<br />
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Kara Thrace is the harbinger of death, according to the hybrid. She is also the only character we know has been to Earth. What if she triggered a series of events that led to the destruction of the 13th tribe? She probably isn't the 5th, but she's something else. I think she's playing the character of Krishna for those of you who've read Bhagavad Gita, but at the same time her connections to the arrow of Apollo make me think she might be Arjuna. In either case, her counterpart would be the 5th.<br />
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What is hard to explain is her viper. How does it explode visibly and then come back in mint condition in the nebula? Vipers don't have FTL either, so everything seems weird.<br />
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* International Space Station and satellites probably wouldn't be affected by nuclear war<br />
* They can't all be dead - there's got to be somebody alive from the 13th tribe.<br />
* New York, sure, but who would waste a nuke on New Jersey? (*grin*)<br />
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--[[User:Smari|Smari]] 14:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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ISS and other spacecraft in low-earth orbit will see their orbits decay within a decade (or even less) due to atmospheric drag without periodic reboosts (the demise of Skylab in 1979 is a perfect example of this). Even satellites in pretty high Earth orbit will fall back to Earth within a few hundred years - assuming that a significantly long time has elapsed since whatever happened on Earth, the only stuff left in orbit will be stuff out at the Clarke (geosynchronous) orbit. <br />
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--[[User:Qprmeteor|Qprmeteor]] 15:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Perhaps, but not much time has passed in the fleet, yet the plants growing on the ruins suggest the event was a long time ago. However, there was a time discrepancy associated with Kara's previous visit.<br />
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--[[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 16:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The article states that "[...] the series is set in the future and not the past [...]." This is not necessarily true. That - what was his name again - hybrid in razor said, that this happens "again, again, again...", so I came to the conclusion, that this might as well be our past. Maybe next time, it goes the other way round and people are escaping from earth after it was nuked by cylons or - whatever is next in line - and the human race is looking for an ancient world called... caprica for instance. This would make the Galactica Noah's Ark. Just my two cents... [[User:Lincore|Lincore]] 01:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Locating Earth based on just a bearing ==<br />
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There's a comment made in the main article stating that making a precision jump based solely on a bearing seems unlikely. It doesn't seem to me like this would necessarily be the case. Based on the bearing, Galactica should be able to scan in that direction, looking for solar systems. From there, they could scan for inhabitable planets. Assuming they truly are in our solar system, that narrows it down to one planet. We know that Colonial FTLs are capable of some extremely precise jumps, so jumping into orbit doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.<br />
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The part that seems unlikely to me is that the fleet has been haphazardly stumbling around all this time jumping from point to point, several hundred jumps from the 12 Colonies. Now the Fleet is within jump range of Earth, without even knowing exactly where they were going.<br />
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--[[User:Scionic|Scionic]] 16:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think the Fleet jumped from their position to Earth in one jump. Getting to Earth probably took many jumps, which is what Lee meant when he said his course would have to be corrected as they went. The writers just skipped all these intermediate jumps and cut straight ahead to the final one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Even given that, it would be more believable to jump somewhere into the solar system rather than directly into orbit on the final jump. That's really just dramatic license. However, as said above, it makes sense that they would use astronomical readings to determine the location of star systems in the direction. But, it wouldn't be the usual generic, faster-than-light sci-fi scans. BSG's stellar navigation is mostly more in line with real astronomy, i.e. using passive readings -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 23:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::In watching the episode again, it looks like they very well might be inside the Sol System for their final jump, presumably to save time/fuel instead of slogging their away across the system at sublight. The last establishing shot of the fleet before the final jump shows a yellow star, fairly close. This is presumably our Sun. Plus, I have to say I disagree on the method of stellar navigation. For general in-system navigation and plotting, passive systems would make sense, but for FTL jumps (which have been indicated to be many light-years long), sci-fi faster-than-light scans would almost be necessary. Otherwise they'd be jumping into a region of space based on a scan that is many months or even years old. It would be like mounting an FTL drive on my car, and jumping into the middle of a busy freeway based on a picture I took a couple weeks ago - I could very well jump into the middle of another car, jump into a location that no longer exists, etc. --[[User:Scionic|Scionic]] 06:09, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Better sure, but such magical technology simply doesn't exist. And all serious works of sci-fi deal a bit with the lightspeed information lag. True, BSG makes jumps next to planetary bodies and especially ships way too easy sometimes, but now and then, it's also pointed out how dangerous such jumps are. And that whole thing is the reason behind the term [[Red Line]]. A limit behind which jumps can't be plotted (e.g. stellar movement extrapolated from known data) accurately enough to have a certain margin of error. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::The Universe is a very big and empty place... Using normal tools they indeed see outdated images, the way things were months maybe years before... But the movement of stars and planets can be easily observed and predicted accurately enough to jump in space and not inside a star or planet. Remember, they don't have to jump directly into orbit around Earth, probably not even in the solar system, just close enough to get a closer look and get more accurate coordinates... -- [[User:Evilforce|Evilforce]] 11:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm not just talking about the episode specifically, but the series in general. For planets that surely works. That's what I meant above. But they also jump extremely close to ships without problems. And their movement couldn't be predicted. That part is unrealistic. But never mind; it's pretty pointless to discuss this at such length. We kinda agree anyways :) -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::About jumping close to ships: I've got a little theory about that which I brought up in some long forgotten thread at Battlestar Forum: distance between ships is preserved through a jump. By this, I mean that the distance between e.g. ''Galactica'' and ''Colonial One'' after the jump will be equal to the one before it, because they made the exact same jump. For the same reason, you should be able to jump close to or even in the middle of the Fleet, provided you jumped away from that same spot. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Is it Earth at all? ==<br />
Is the planet actually Earth? No recognisable land masses are visible from orbit, unlike in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]". The ruins look vaguely like Brooklyn and the Temple of Aurora, but it's inconclusive. The only thing conclusive is the star patterns match. Perhaps this is another pointer along the way. -- [[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 16:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The scriptures say the dying leader wasn't supposed to survive to see their new home, although that's making two assumptions - that the dying leader is Roslin and the new home is the planet. --[[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 23:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::"Inductive reasoning is the death of philosophy". You can never prove anything definitively based on observed evidence, but I'd be willing to bet my house (if I owned one) on that being Earth. Aside from the many, many on-screen things, it would be a huge slap in the face to viewers if this was just [[Terra]] or something. Consider that the writers have set up this exquisite concept that in the near future civilisation is destroyed, only for it to be revealed that this is just some arbitrary planet. (Plus a few spoilers for episodes ahead do say this is Earth). Sometimes a spade is just a desolute, lifeless and radioactive spade. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 23:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::The discussion about the lack of recognisable land masses made me realise something - there's no sign of the Moon. I thing the writers have been very clever hiding any definitive traces that this is indeed Earth - there are after all 3 other Sun-like stars nearby to us, and the Fleet may be elsewhere. If we saw a recognisable land form or Luna herself, there would be no doubt - but an interesting door has been left open, I think. [[User:Qprmeteor|Qprmeteor]] 13:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::It's curious, but the destroyed city is clearly New York. And you don't necessarily see the moon even in a wide shot of space. That depends on the direction of the view. Besides, there are only 10 episodes left. There isn't really much point in such an elaborate deception when there are other story and character arcs to tie up. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:58, 19 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Maybe it's clearly NYC to you, but only vaguely to me. But there's also the possibility they added so much cloud to keep the condition of the surface hidden until the revealing moment, and to have enough debris in the atmosphere for consistency with a nuclear winter. -- [[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 11:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::We won't resolve this one until the rest of the season. Starbuck made a big deal about the moon, photographed it, oddly called it a "yellow moon" and said that was a key clue from Pythia. We don't yet know why the moon would be yellow, but we can be pretty sure if the moon from Starbuck's photos and Pythia's legend were not there, they would have noticed it. "Uh, hey, where's the giant moon?" It's the yellow part that is interesting.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 02:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== The possible finale? ==<br />
Back before the season started and during the Writer's Strike, Sackhoff made a comment that the last episode they'd filmed might have acted as a series finale if the strike had gone on long enough that they couldn't return to work. Now, according to the Wiki, it's the next episode that she was referring to, but I was wondering how sure we were of that. There seems to have been a lot of confusion about which episodes production people are talking about. And I feel, after watching Revelations, that it seems like a likely candidate for the episode she was talking about. Thoughts? [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 02:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I think we're pretty much certain. Sometimes a Great Notion was the last episode written before the strike and the last episode filmed before the break, and the scenes mentioned [http://roadrunnerdm.livejournal.com/84288.html here] take place after the end of Revelations. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Far fetched Jehovah's Witnesses connection? ==<br />
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To summarize: The Landing party appears to be on a plot of land that is very reminiscent of Brooklyn Heights looking out over to a land mass that has a similar topography of Manhattan Island with a structure to the extreme right that looks vaguely like a wrecked Tower of the Brooklyn Bridge Meanwhile in real life in that same area they appear to be in happens to have the Watchtower Building. The word "Watchtower" is part of the title of a Bob Dylan song in which four Cylons heard in their heads. Is it true for a fact? I don't know, but there is evidence for it and it would be a HUGE coincidence. Oh, I almost forgot: There is also the the fact that a off-shoot branch of the Jehovah's Witnesses has the word "Dawn" in its name and there is supposed to be a Temple called the Temple of Aurora for the The Goddess of Dawn? Hey, it could be all wrong, but at least I have evidence for it. To be clear I am not saying that RDM is bearing direct comparison to the Colonial situation but I think he using the JW as clues of some kind.[[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 08:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I agree that the Watchtower connection could be notable, but the Dawn connection is going too far in my opinion. Thoughts? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Agreed. Also it's just too verbose for not adding much at all. At least it should be cut down. It's a tenuous connection to begin with and there is no reason to extrapolate so much from it. Just noting the fact should be fine. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree with the cut down, however I don't agree that it is tenuous. This show is heavy with religion and deliberately so. I am NOT saying that RDM has a specific religious agenda, Jehovah's Witnesses or otherwise, he is a lapsed Catholic who is into the Eastern Asian Faiths, but it is hard to believe that the "Watchtower" building in real life being where the landing party is is a coincidence. It is meant as clue that it is ''really'' New York. I, as a New Yorker born, raised and lived my entire life take it as a HUGE slap-in-the-face-hint. [http://www.beliefnet.com/story/166/story_16650_1.html Anyway, here is a link to an interview on his use of religion in his version of BSG and the Mormon influences of the original.]The Watchtower building, where it is and Bob Dyan's song thing was NO accident or coincidence. And I don't think the Dawn thing between the Greek Goddess and the Jehovah's Witnesses faction is either although I admit there is much less objective evidence for it. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 04:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::It's clearly supposed to be in the same place as New York, but the timeframe of the series has not yet been established. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::My 2 cents is that, unless we see further JW links, this is probably a coincidence. It may be of note to say what currently stands on the bank where the crew are though. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 09:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Like I said earlier, the Watchtower note is not disputed. Regardless of whether it's deliberate, it deserves to be noted on this page. The JW/Aurora connection is much weaker, and I agree with OTW that unless more references to the Jehova's Witnesses pop up, it's too weak to be noted. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::To be clear again, I am not saying there is an actual JW/Cylon connection or RDM having an agenda. I think it is a clue as to where they are in New York if they are in New York. In a show that is heavily religously themed; to have a Bob Dyan Song with the word "Watchtower" in it and then show the Landing Party what could be an area around the East Tower of the Brooklyn Bridge which happens to be in the area where the Religous sect owned Watchtower building is in real life is VERY suspicious to me as a New Yorker, as to show that it is New York City. If it is a coincidence it is a '''''HUGE''''' one, a struck-by-lighting-three-days-in-a-row type of coincidence. 10:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC) <br />
:::::As one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I don't see a real connection aside from the name of our buildings; based on what I know of BG's religious inspiration, and comparing them to our beliefs, I think I can safely say that this is a surprisingly coincidence . That said, here is a footnote from our of our publications in regards to the origin of the name:<br><br> The expression "Watch Tower" is no unique to Russell's writings or to Jehovah's Witnesses. George Storrs published a book in the 1850s called <i>The Watch Tower: Or, Man in Death; and the Hope for a Future Life.</i> The name was also incorporated in the title of various religious periodicals. It stems from the idea of keeping on the watch for the outworking of God's purposes - Isa 21:8,11,12; Ezek 3:17; Hab 2:1 - Jehovah's Witnesses, Proclaimers of God's Kingdom, page 48. <br><br> Take that as you will. As for me, I may just stop by here every once in a while and giggle. :D -- [[User:Ibmjones|Ibmjones]]<br />
::Note that if it's the Brooklyn bridge, it is an error because it has metal rods sticking out of it. Leaving aside the fact they should be r usted after so long, the Brooklyn bridge was built before reinforced concrete was used in the USA. The one to the right could be the Manhattan bridge, which was built later.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 02:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Who says they are reinforcing rods? The whole thing is black as if it is in shadow. You cannot tell details like that. I doubt from a dramatic point of view that they will use the [[W:Manhattan Bridge|Manhattan Bridge]] Who the hell knows about the Manhattan Bridge except New Yorkers like me who took the "D" and "N" subway trains over it LOL! The Brooklyn Bridge is iconic. Anyway it is undoubtedly a bridge. RDM says so in his podcast of ''Revelations.'' It contains a lot of oblique answers to questions. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 08:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Pardon? ==<br />
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I don't recall any pardon Lee Adama issued, and I couldn't find the word "pardon" in his article or in the episode guides for the episodes in which he was President. Am I missing something?<br />
*It is not mentioned whether or not Lee Adama's pardon means the Final Four Cylons will, or can, remain in the Colonial military in crucial positions.<br />
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 18:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:He gives them an "amnesty" - "free to go, free to stay". It's right after he announces that he hands all the information over to the Cylon rebels, when they stand around Starbuck's Viper. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Right, now I remember. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 19:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The question of the pardon, and whether it extended to Caprica-Six, is answered here: http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/06/18/battlestar-galactica-interview-mark-verheiden-on-cylon-amnesty-and-finding-earth/?cid=9445 -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 02:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Starbuck's expression ==<br />
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I just re-watched the last scene, I'm fairly sure that Kara's smirking, she's the only one in the scene who doesn't seem disappointed. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 22:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Neither does Tyrol, apparently. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Tyrol is clearly chuckling to himself; Starbuck to me looks like she has her mouth pursed as part of an overall expression of concern.--[[User:Hylas|Hylas]] 23:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::: I don't think he was "chuckling" to himself out of humor, but in a cynical "of course it would turn out this way..." attitude. Rueful, just like when he was taken to the launch tube and he looks at Tigh and smiled because he '''knew''' Tigh gave them up. He smiled at Anders in a similar fashion because he knew that Tigh gave them up even then. On Earth Tyrol just had a non committal attitude because he is already cynical as hell probably thinking of the absurdity of the situation. Starbuck had somewhat the same attitude especially with the "harbinger of death" prophecy ringing in her head. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 09:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Goof ==<br />
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In the scene in CIC where Felix gets up to retrieve the pills he knocked over, you can briefly see the shadow of his 'missing' leg and foot (tucked up behind him) cast on the floor just between him and his chair. . . oops! [[User:Centurion 51773|Centurion 51773]] 09:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Yep, big oops. Or is it a shadow from his [[Virtual beings|Virtual Leg]]? :P -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 10:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I believe that's already mentioned on our [[Continuity errors (RDM)#VFX Gaffes|continuity errors page]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Bradley_Thompson&diff=165300Bradley Thompson2008-07-07T10:47:53Z<p>Catrope: RMD</p>
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<div>:''See also [[User:Ngarenn]], Bradley Thompson's user page on Battlestar Wiki.''<br />
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'''Bradley Thompson''' is a TV writer and producer who, before working on BSG, was best known for his work on ''Star Trek: Deep Space Nine''. He is a supervising producer for the [[Re-imagined Series]] as of the [[Season 4|fourth season]].<br />
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In a recent interview, <ref> [http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/tns/thompson.html Interview with Bradley Thompson] </ref> Thompson recalled that his early impressions of ''Battlestar Galactica'' (the original series) were far from favorable: "I met (my writing partner) [[David Weddle]] in an acting class and we discovered we were both at USC School of Cinema. It was the same acting class that [[Richard Hatch]] frequented. Richard was doing the original ''Battlestar Galactica'' at that time, and everybody in class was in awe -- he was a WORKING ACTOR! And all the class ladies would go to parties and watch him when the show came on. Of course, while they were adoring him, they were ignoring me, so I didn't like the show very much. But they would have ignored me anyway, so I guess I wasn't giving the show a fair shake." <br />
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Five years later, Thompson was designing fiber-optic manufacturing equipment in what he calls "a sweatshop in Van Nuys" and he asked Weddle if he could turn his play "Memoirs of an Awkward Lover" into a screenplay. Weddle agreed, and the two ended up collaborating on the project together instead. (Nobody bought the adaptation. It's still for sale.)<br />
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After ''[[MemoryAlpha:Star Trek: Deep Space Nine|Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]'' Executive Producer Ira Steven Behr read Weddle's book about filmmaker Sam Pekinpah, Weddle secured an invitation to pitch for the show and Thompson & Weddle collaborated on pitch ideas for the series.<br />
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Their first credited story on the series, was the fourth season episode "[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Rules_of_Engagement Rules of Engagement]". The teleplay was written by [[Ronald D. Moore]]. Their first credited teleplay for Deep Space Nine was the fifth season episode, "[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Assignment The Assignment]."<br />
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After their second teleplay for DS9, "[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Business_as_Usual Business As Usual]," Thompson & Weddle joined the show's writing staff for seasons six and seven, writing two episodes from the final tightly-plotted nine-episode arc of the series.<br />
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In 2002, Thompson and Weddle were invited to a screening of the new ''Battlestar Galactica'' miniseries. "We expected it to be like so many other remakes of failed series -- but hey, Ron (Moore) wrote it, it'll be worth a look," Thompson recalls. "Oh, boy, was it! It blew me away. We told him so. And found ourselves invited to lunch -- we thought, to talk about old times -- but soon we were talking excitedly about where he was taking the series and where the character relationships could go." <br />
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Calling BSG his "dream project" and "the best job I ever had" because of both the concept of carrier pilots in space and the opportunity to work with "amazingly talented writers," Thompson also credited the actors with contributing important insights into their characters that sometimes reshapes main storylines. "Actor input is an important part -- if it's good and doesn't conflict with some other uberstory, we gleefully steal it, bend it and use it," he said.<br />
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Thompson and Weddle initially served as story editors on the first season. They became co-producers as of the second season. They were given more responsibility as producers for the third season. They became supervising producers for the fourth season.<br />
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While initially slated to write the [[Untitled Battlestar movie|unnamed ''Battlestar Galactica'' television movie]] with Thompson, the two had to subsequently withdraw from this assignment due to being hired as writers and supervising producers for ''[[w:CSI: Crime Scene Investigation|CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]'', the popular, long-running [[w:CBS|CBS]] series.<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.syfyportal.com/news425187.html|title=SyFy Portal: Writing Duo Finds 'CSI' After 'Battlestar'|date=4 July 2008|accessdate=6 July 2008|last=Hinman|first=Michael|format=|language=}}</ref><br />
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== Writer credits for "Battlestar Galactica" ==<br />
*Season 1:<br />
**[[Act of Contrition]]<br />
**[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
*Season 2:<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix]]<br />
**[[Scar]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
*[[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]] - A series of webisodes bridging the gap between Seasons 2 and 3<br />
*Season 3:<br />
**[[Exodus, Part I]]<br />
**[[Exodus, Part II]]<br />
**[[Rapture]]<br />
*Season 4:<br />
**[[He That Believeth In Me]]<br />
''See also: [[:Category:Episodes written by Bradley Thompson|Episodes written by Bradley Thompson]]''<br />
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