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Talk:Colonial Marine Corps/Archive 1

2006-12-01T02:25:36Z

Swatguy: /* Marine Gear */

== Known Marines ==
Sgt Fischer should be added to the list. He first appears in the season premiere of Season 2 and is the Sergeant of the Guard who orders two marines to haul Boomer away after shooting Adama.
In the credits of Final Cut he is refered to as 'Marine Sgt. Fischer'.

I'm going to go ahead and add the names of the black-suited soldiers from 'Scattered' and 'Valley of Darkness'. Ltcrashdown December 23, 2005

Added "Corporal" link to "Venner" name. Lordmutt - 10 February, 2006

Ahem why did someone add the Marines from Rising Star as dead? it's conjecture that they're dead as the episode hasn't aired yet..

Actually... [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 23:33, 10 February 2006 (EST)
:It concluded its east-coast airdate half an hour ago. Lordmutt, please sign your comments using <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:34, 10 February 2006 (EST)

Apologies, thought it didn't air for another 2 days - [[user:lordmutt|Lordmutt]]

== Marine Weapons ==
What about the [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta CX4 Storm carbine]]? I think the Marine that stopped Roslin (then let her go) when she was escaping had one. It's interesting that they took the trouble to apparently fabricate those strange wooden-handled pistols, but used existing submachine guns. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:42, 20 January 2006 (EST)
:And I must say, and excellent recent edit, Spencerian. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 18:45, 20 January 2006 (EST)
Thanks for changing the Five-seveN to a sidearm, I forgot. To answer your question, the CMC used them in Valley of Darkness. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 17:23, 25 January 2006 (EST)

In Lay Down Your Burden Part two, the marines on Caprica were using a H&K G36c, the Protecta shotgun, that's the one with the drum mag that sharon valerri used in Home part one, and Anders was using a H&K UMP. Did i get it right?
:Most of the Marines are still carrying Cx4s but Starbuck carries a G-36K. The C model has a flat Picatinny rail instead of the integrated scope like the gun Thrace uses. [http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm G-36]. Anders still has his UMP which he's had from the beginning. Helo carries a Protecta and I swear I saw a Neostead being carried by a resistance member. The gun Sharon carries in Home may look like a shotgun (don't have a pic right now) but it definately shot like a grenade launcher. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:47, 13 March 2006 (CST)
::I believe (well, assumed) the Protecta was just being used as a stand-in for a grenade launcher. Has one ever fired shot on the show? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:42, 14 March 2006 (CST)
:::That's what I figured. Do you mean shot as a shotgun or as a grenade launcher. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 08:45, 14 March 2006 (CST)
::::I believe it was fired as a grenade launcher back in Home. I don't recall it ever being fired as a shotgun. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:47, 14 March 2006 (CST)
:::::You're right about the Home shot, I just couldn't think of it being fired as a shotgun. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:24, 14 March 2006 (CST)
::::I meant fired [[Wikipedia:Lead shot|shot]], as in the small metal objects propelled from a shotgun (or a cannon or whatever). Upon reflection, I guess it looks like I typoed "fired a shot." --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 00:20, 15 March 2006 (CST)

== Marine Gear ==
I '''''think''''' I nailed the Combat Vest. I stuck my SWAT -trained friends onto it, and they came back with these models, given their telltale snap-&-velcro attachment system. It's more than likely that the costume department dealt with the manufacturer to get un-armored versions on the cheap. The goggles, too, are quite inexpensive.

I did some research an i'm pretty certain that the tac vests worn by the marine's are actually a variaent of the MilSpex SWAT Tactical Vest. It has movable puches and unlike the vests metioned in the actual article, the vests are fairly inexpesive running at about $50 a vest. -SWATGUY-

There's also something worth discussing about their uniforms, especially after viewing the two most recent episodes (the Lay Down Your Burdens). I'll post that over at [[Talk:Uniform]] -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 12:58, 15 March 2006 (CST)

They also to appear very close to Safariland's Cover Six Plus. I do think they are discontinued though. [[User:Panther|Panther]] 22:46, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

:The costume lead for the show has had serious problems in sufficient materials to make the [[flight suit]] as well as the day officers uniform as they prefer to use exotic fabric types. I wouldn't be surprised if the marine outfits use uncommon vests and other items to ensure that they are similar to Earth stuff, but are unfamilar enough to make it seem cool. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:52, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

==Marine Officer==

I believe that in 1x08, before interrogating Leoben, Kara Thrace is having a dicussion with a marine officer. If not, there is some variety of previously unseen uniform there. [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 20:53, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:No, that's the captain of the Gemenon Traveler. They didn't bother moving Leoben to Galactica as that would be too dangerous and they didn't have time, so all those scenes actually occur on the Gemenon Traveller. Starbuck also makes various asides saying they aren't on Galactica. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 00:40, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
::Ah, ok. I was only half watching. [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 16:16, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

Talk:Colonial Marine Corps/Archive 1

2006-12-01T02:24:23Z

Swatguy: /* Marine Gear */

== Known Marines ==
Sgt Fischer should be added to the list. He first appears in the season premiere of Season 2 and is the Sergeant of the Guard who orders two marines to haul Boomer away after shooting Adama.
In the credits of Final Cut he is refered to as 'Marine Sgt. Fischer'.

I'm going to go ahead and add the names of the black-suited soldiers from 'Scattered' and 'Valley of Darkness'. Ltcrashdown December 23, 2005

Added "Corporal" link to "Venner" name. Lordmutt - 10 February, 2006

Ahem why did someone add the Marines from Rising Star as dead? it's conjecture that they're dead as the episode hasn't aired yet..

Actually... [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 23:33, 10 February 2006 (EST)
:It concluded its east-coast airdate half an hour ago. Lordmutt, please sign your comments using <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:34, 10 February 2006 (EST)

Apologies, thought it didn't air for another 2 days - [[user:lordmutt|Lordmutt]]

== Marine Weapons ==
What about the [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta CX4 Storm carbine]]? I think the Marine that stopped Roslin (then let her go) when she was escaping had one. It's interesting that they took the trouble to apparently fabricate those strange wooden-handled pistols, but used existing submachine guns. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:42, 20 January 2006 (EST)
:And I must say, and excellent recent edit, Spencerian. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 18:45, 20 January 2006 (EST)
Thanks for changing the Five-seveN to a sidearm, I forgot. To answer your question, the CMC used them in Valley of Darkness. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 17:23, 25 January 2006 (EST)

In Lay Down Your Burden Part two, the marines on Caprica were using a H&K G36c, the Protecta shotgun, that's the one with the drum mag that sharon valerri used in Home part one, and Anders was using a H&K UMP. Did i get it right?
:Most of the Marines are still carrying Cx4s but Starbuck carries a G-36K. The C model has a flat Picatinny rail instead of the integrated scope like the gun Thrace uses. [http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm G-36]. Anders still has his UMP which he's had from the beginning. Helo carries a Protecta and I swear I saw a Neostead being carried by a resistance member. The gun Sharon carries in Home may look like a shotgun (don't have a pic right now) but it definately shot like a grenade launcher. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:47, 13 March 2006 (CST)
::I believe (well, assumed) the Protecta was just being used as a stand-in for a grenade launcher. Has one ever fired shot on the show? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:42, 14 March 2006 (CST)
:::That's what I figured. Do you mean shot as a shotgun or as a grenade launcher. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 08:45, 14 March 2006 (CST)
::::I believe it was fired as a grenade launcher back in Home. I don't recall it ever being fired as a shotgun. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:47, 14 March 2006 (CST)
:::::You're right about the Home shot, I just couldn't think of it being fired as a shotgun. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:24, 14 March 2006 (CST)
::::I meant fired [[Wikipedia:Lead shot|shot]], as in the small metal objects propelled from a shotgun (or a cannon or whatever). Upon reflection, I guess it looks like I typoed "fired a shot." --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 00:20, 15 March 2006 (CST)

== Marine Gear ==
I '''''think''''' I nailed the Combat Vest. I stuck my SWAT -trained friends onto it, and they came back with these models, given their telltale snap-&-velcro attachment system. It's more than likely that the costume department dealt with the manufacturer to get un-armored versions on the cheap. The goggles, too, are quite inexpensive.

I did some research an i'm pretty certain that the tac vests worn by the marine's are actually a variaent of the MilSpex SWAT Tactical Vest. It has movable puches and unlike the vests metioned in the actual article, the vests are fairly inexpesive running at about $50 a vest.

There's also something worth discussing about their uniforms, especially after viewing the two most recent episodes (the Lay Down Your Burdens). I'll post that over at [[Talk:Uniform]] -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 12:58, 15 March 2006 (CST)

They also to appear very close to Safariland's Cover Six Plus. I do think they are discontinued though. [[User:Panther|Panther]] 22:46, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

:The costume lead for the show has had serious problems in sufficient materials to make the [[flight suit]] as well as the day officers uniform as they prefer to use exotic fabric types. I wouldn't be surprised if the marine outfits use uncommon vests and other items to ensure that they are similar to Earth stuff, but are unfamilar enough to make it seem cool. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:52, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

==Marine Officer==

I believe that in 1x08, before interrogating Leoben, Kara Thrace is having a dicussion with a marine officer. If not, there is some variety of previously unseen uniform there. [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 20:53, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:No, that's the captain of the Gemenon Traveler. They didn't bother moving Leoben to Galactica as that would be too dangerous and they didn't have time, so all those scenes actually occur on the Gemenon Traveller. Starbuck also makes various asides saying they aren't on Galactica. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 00:40, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
::Ah, ok. I was only half watching. [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 16:16, 20 August 2006 (CDT)