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Talk:Galactica crew facilities (RDM)/Archive 1

2008-05-27T20:48:27Z

SOLDIERofficer81:

== Orphan Status ==

Can anybody find a place to link to this? It's currently an "orphan" and thus might be difficult to find. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:34, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

:While I fixed that (see [[Viper (RDM)|Viper (RDM)]]), it could probably go for a mention on [[Kara Thrace|Kara Thrace]] by someone who can find a good spot to work it in. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 12:59, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
::I thought once I had a more complete listing that it would be link off of the main galactica article.--[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 15:29, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

== Thruster Pedal Weight Machine ==

I think that assuming that weight machine is specifically for simulating the force needed for a Viper's thruster pedal is rather silly. To me, that seemed to simply be a machine Starbuck was training on when Adama walked up and used it for that purpose. It looks to just be a normal adjustible weight leg workout machine. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:04, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

:It's a leg press. Hasn't the person who wrote that bit ever been in an actual weight room? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 04:35, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

:Yeah, it's a normal leg press. That article needs to be edited. And while that would remove most of the text, the article isn't that important anyways --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:40, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

== Propose move ==

This article should be moved and expanded to discuss not only the weight room, but the entire "workout area" of Galactica, including the combatives room where Dualla and Apollo train and that place where D'anna walks in on Starbuck beating up on a punching bag. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 16:45, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

:I agree. What should we call it though? [[Galactica's workout area|Galactica's workout area]]? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:22, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
::Hmm, maybe a [[Galactica crew facilities|Galactica crew facilities]] page, this way it can include minor stuff like the pilot's lounge, the observation room Dee and Billy went too, etc. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:00, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
:::That would probably be better, and it would definitely cover a lot more of ''Galactica'''s areas. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:57, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
::::Well if someone can move it to Galactica Crew Facilities (RDM), I'll begin the task of going through each episode and adding the appropraite facilities and descriptions. I don't have TOS on DVD, otherwise I'd do the same for it. I guess that can be a future project, once this one gets done.--[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 15:54, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Done. Keep in mind that there are already articles for the [[Duty locker|Duty locker]] and the [[Pilot ready rooms|Pilot ready rooms]]. Listing those might still be a good idea, but one sentence and the use of the <nowiki>{{mainarticle|}}</nowiki> template is enough. Or is this article just for recreational rooms? In that case, those don't need to be listed. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:08, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::My thought was to include EVERYTHING, and for those that already have artice I will use the format and just link to them. --[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 16:17, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

== Proper Noun ==

Since "Galactica Crew Facilities" isn't a proper noun, I will be moving the page to reflect this. Just an FYI. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 18:46, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

== Crew Facilities ==

Do we want this page to incorporate ALL of Galactica's facilities, with refrence links to those facilities that warrant full articles (i.e. Brig, CIC) or do we want it to just be Crew "Support" Facilities?--[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 22:14, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

:Probably just crew support facilities, since this will doubtless be linked from [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica (RDM)]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 22:20, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::Sounds good, I just wanted to check before adding that stuff --[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 22:24, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

== Rec Room ==

I thought (working off memory here) that Racetrack and Kat were in a duty locker because I remember thinking that it was odd she answered the phone "RACK room." I don't have Exodus DVRed anymore, so can someone possibly check that? I didn't like the name offcier's club either, but I wasn't sure what to call it.--[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 15:41, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

:It looks like the normal off duty room, or whatever you might call it, to me. And I'm pretty sure she says "rec room". "Rack room" doesn't make that much sense. But maybe someone else can confirm it. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:50, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:If I recall correctly, "rec room" has been used more often throughout the series (I can't pinpoint them, though). If that is indeed the case, we can just switch to a less ambiguous example. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

 

== Photos ==

Does anyone have screencaps of any of these locations? I think the page REALLY needs pics, but I don't have a way to grab a screencap.--[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 00:03, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:Definitely. If no one else gets around to doing it, I can rustle through my DVDs and grab some shots. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 09:51, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

I'm currently doing interior screenshots. There is an awesome view of the rec room at the end of "Exodus, Part I" at about 40:50. It would be cool to have a DVD screenshot of that. I also tried to get a good view of the wardroom, but it's hard to get an overall look at it. Again S3 might be good with "Rapture". There is an overhead shot at about 16:58. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:54, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

 

== Wardroom Chairs ==

Would it be appropriate to mention in the Wardroom section that the chairs are the same as the chairs in the Clavius Base conference room from 2001: A Space Odyssey?

-- [[User:SOLDIERofficer81|SOLDIERofficer81]] 20:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

New Caprica Police

2006-10-08T03:08:23Z

SOLDIERofficer81:

[[Image:New Caprica Police Poster.jpg|200px|thumb|right|New Caprica Police Recruitment Poster "Keeping your streets safe!"]]
The '''New Caprica Police''' ('''NCP''') is a force of humans recruited by the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] to maintain order on [[New Caprica]]. Each wears a black [[Wikipedia:Balaclava|ski mask]], blue body armor, a green uniform, and a white armband with a dark letter "C". They are commonly seen as prison guards, rounding up other citizens and even beating up or shooting prisoners down.

In [[Occupation]], a graduating class of thirty-three cadets from the New Caprica Police Academy and some [[Skinjob|skinjobs]] VIP guests were killed in a suicide bomb attack on the graduation hall. The attack was planned and perpetrated by the Insurgency.

== Note ==

The recruiting poster seen in [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]] depicts a man in black clothing, despite all police seen on duty being dressed as above.

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Talk:FTL/Archive 1

2006-09-08T01:32:13Z

SOLDIERofficer81: "Spun Up"

==Multiple Jumps in Cylon Raider==
:''However, it is far more likely that Starbuck had to make a series of jumps back to Caprica (especially given the condition she was in upon arrival) witch would indicate that the Cylon Raiders FTL-range is not that extremely superior.''

While plausible, that's clearly ''not'' the implication of the on-screen events, IMO. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:32, 27 September 2005 (EDT)

==My Big Problem With FTL==
I have a big problem with the FTL drives in the BSG universe and thats how many times they can jump before they refuel. In the episode 33, we see the fleet make over 250 consecutive jumps. Would it make sense for a 747 airliner to make that many consecutive flights w/o refueling? Fuel tanks would have to have a huge capacity to make that many jumps. Why would you design such a large fuel tank into a commercial transport like Colonial One. Every extra pound put into the vessel is one extra pound to push out of orbit. Jumping MUST require a considerable ammount of fuel or getting it wouldn't be an issue. I can understand a large fuel tank in something like a transport vessel or a mining ship, but not a starliner, its just not practical. I wouldnt normally complain about something like this, but given RDM's goal of making a 'realistic' sci-fi show, it bothers me. Are there any explinations for the capability to jump that many times?--Antagonist

I see no logical disconect in any of the things you've just stated. It all simply makes sense to me, as well as seems realistic. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:54, 18 February 2006 (EST)

::It would be like designing a 747 with a un-refueled range of a hundred thousand miles or a car with a 500 gallon gas tank. --[[User:Antagonist|Antagonist]] 13:34, 18 February 2006 (EST)

Hmm i see your point here. However it has been stated that they do have a refinery ship, and refuels have been mentioned in prev eps. I choose to believe that unseen ships rushed around during the 33 mins..In other words, Im letting that one go with a la la la :) Also do FTL's use the same fuel as the sublight engines? Or something else? --[[User:Simmons|Simmons]] 03:34, 19 February 2006 (EST)

Well, if the Cylons were tracking by radio signals from spies in "33," then the jumps are 33 light-minutes. Maybe the Colonials were intentionally making small jumps just to try to lose the Cylons. I don't really consider it likely though, if they were jumping 33 light-minutes, you would think they would notice the 33 minute attack intervals and change up the jump lengths. But if they were making short jumps in that episode, it might be the equivalent of a trip down the block, where it's conceivable to go 300 blocks without refueling. Either that or the fuel analogy being used is a poor one and we should be comparing the usage to a nuclear powered sea vessel which can go years without changing the reactor core, but that introduces problems such as the rate of reactor usage being more steady in a nuclear reactor.--[[User:Jeremias|Jeremias]] 19:14, 2 March 2006 (CST)

== Tracking an FTL Jump ==

Im not sure its been mentioned anywhere in an ep, but I assume that ships can not be tracked through an FTL jump?--[[User:Simmons|Simmons]] 03:39, 19 February 2006 (EST)
:You can't track a Jump in progress, but you can discern its destination after. This happened to the Fleet as it was tracked, presumably with a hidden [[Cylon transponder]] on the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' in the events of "[[33]]," the first series episode. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:24, 19 February 2006 (EST)

They said in the Miniseries it is impossible to track an FTL Jump. However, the Cylons have spies and stuff with transponders in the Fleet, and they can send signals which the Cylons can then detect and Jump to. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 13:15, 19 February 2006 (EST)

So has there been any mention of FTL communications (doesn't seem likely in light of "The Hand of God")? Otherwise, this might limit the length of the jumps to 33 light-minutes. 33 light-minutes when making jumps every 33 minutes is arduous leads to long times to cover interstellar distances. Also, it seems like something Adama or Tigh should have noticed. "We jump 33 light-minutes, they attack every 33 minutes...what a quandry." Maybe their detecting the gravitational waves a ships arrival might produce. This is dependent on gravity having a propagation speed different from c, which hasn't been adequately explored, though the assumption and indication by some preliminary experiments is that the speeds are the same. Alternatively, the Cylons have better probed FTL phenomena than the Colonials and discovered ways to track jumps.
--[[User:Jeremias|Jeremias]] 19:06, 2 March 2006 (CST)

:The series uses [[wireless]] broadcasts, which are similar to our radio and are limited in range. There are no FTL communications mentioned in the show. Similarly, the concept of "gravity waves" is also not discussed in the show and so cannot be factored in. See [[Science in the Re-imagined Series]] for more on the limitations that the writers keep in discussing tech in the show. As noted before, [[Cylon transponder|transponder]]s can be used to find a ship after its jump, but not during. ''Tracking'' the actual jump is pointless, anyway: the effect is an instantaneous move from one spot to another. See [[FTL]] for the theory. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:10, 16 June 2006 (CDT)

== New Sections: "Jump Calculations" & "What happened in "Scattered"? ==

hi all,

this is my second substantial contribution to battlestarwiki. i tried to make sense
of what happened in [[Scattered|Scattered]], using good old wikipedia and my knowledge about sci-fi technology lore, especially from the works of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov|Isaac Asimov]], to create something new.
Please let me know what you think.
--[[User:Rafale|Rafale]] 10:30, 1. June 2006 (GMT +1)

: Hiya. First off, if you want to do a direct html link, just use the one set of brackets and no pipe for renaming the link (<nowiki>[http://www.japanesepod101.com/ Japanese Podcast]</nowiki> renders [http://www.japanesepod101.com/ Japanese Podcast]). Second, When linking Wikipedia, you can pretend like Wikipedia is a namespace here and do this: <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Isaac Asimov|Isaac Asimov]]</nowiki>, which will render this: [[Wikipedia:Isaac Asimov|Isaac Asimov]]. Handy trick, that last. And, thirdly, there seems to be something odd going on with yout quotes (" and "), at least the way my computer renders them. Are you using some kind of international keyboard settings or something?

: Anyway, on to the actual content. I liked it. I'm not super familiar with the BSG FTL theory, so someone else will have to double check the accuracy, but the general thrust of the additions were good. I think this illustraits one of the wonderful things about Wikis. A user like you can come in and dump content, even if it's a little rough around the edges, and others (like me) can come and polish a bit and then, viola (or cello, if you like), the article is shiney ''and'' has lots of good content. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]]) 03:40, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

::Thanks for the tip! I´m still not completely hip to all the different sorts of syntax commands there are, and that wikipedia referencing command is definetly a gem! Of course I´ll try and make my future contributions as polished as possible, so other users can actually think about the content and not the style. Ad Quotes: I was using a german QWERTZ-keyboard, but i think the reason for the funny quotes lies in my using WORD97 to write the article and then copy-pasting it into the editor provided by battlestarwiki. that means that lower case quotes were pasted as well. Gonna use wordpad or textedit next time instead.--[[User:Rafale|Rafale]] 11:33, 1 June 2006 (GMT +1)

::: I added a schematical diagram in "What happened in "Scattered"?" to illustrate the hypothesis. I know it´s ugly and it´s not exactly "BSG" Layout. Feel free to replace or delete if it hurts your eyes.--[[User:Rafale|Rafale]] 12:25, 1 June 2006 (GMT +1)

I'm not sure I understand the idea behind the jump calculations in "Scattered", but this is how I interpret it:
1.) the Emergency Jump Coordinates given to the fleet weren't just an old set of correct coordinates, but outdated and wrong ones. Tigh said that jump plots need to be routinously updated for intertial drift (I assume he meant stellar drift).
2.) so even if they jumped back to where they were before, they don't know excactly where the fleet is. They might still have the coordinates given to the fleet, but those don't fit with the conditions of space at the moment of the jump
3.) somehow they have a way to make new starfixes and between those and the wrong coordinates, they can figure out where they really jumped
--[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:11, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

:Your idea seems generally correct, Serenity. Celestial objects move all the time, so new fixes are needed for where things are ''at that moment'', or drift will cause a difference in the jump that would place ''Galactica'' closer, but still in the wrong place, despite the knowledge of the specific celestial objects used to do the initial calculation. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:01, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

== Replacing "systems" with "technology" ==

What would you say if we replaced the term "systems", as in "colonial FTL systems" with "technology"? I believe this more accurately reflects the fact that there is probably more to FTL flight than mere technological artefacts: navigational charts, surveyors, calculation algrithms, etc...

:The term "technology" is more specific in the matter of hardware and software used to ''create'' a system (where technologies or processes combine to form a unified process, such as a pond, or a habitable spacecraft). FTL consists of the drives, the navigation controls, the drive controls, etc. I'd also remind you that we haven't seen everything of the FTL system, so we can't fully break it down to "technology." I'd leave it at "systems" for this reason--it's sufficiently general while being neither too vague or too specific. (Reminder: '''sign your comments.''') --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:54, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

== "Spun Up" ==

'''We also know from dialogue that the FTL drives on Galactica are "spun up", suggesting a use of electromagnetic or centrifugal energies that may serve in creating the fields or forces needed to activate the engines.'''

I believe the article is taking the term "spun up" too literally here. For example, in the film "Crimson Tide," USS ''Alabama'' had to 'spin up' her missiles before firing them. I think this is another instance of RDM and others using random military jargon to make the show more authentic without putting much thought into the matter.--[[User:SOLDIERofficer81|SOLDIERofficer81]] 20:32, 7 September 2006 (CDT)