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Blood on the Scales

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| title= Blood on the Scales
| season= 4
| episode=14
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| writer= [[Michael Angeli]] <ref name="battlestarsitrep">{{cite_web|url=http://galacticasitrep.blogspot.com/2008/05/angeli-also-rises.html|title=Angeli Also Rises|}}</ref>
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| US airdate=February 6, 2009 <ref>http://tv.ign.com/articles/920/920164p1.html</ref>
| CAN airdate=February 6, 2009
| UK airdate=February 10 2009
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| next=[[No Exit]]
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== Overview ==
:''[[Felix Gaeta]]'s mutiny continues while Roslin finds refuge on the Cylon Basestar.''

== Summary ==

=== Teaser ===
* Rebel marines led by [[Aaron Kelly]] storm the airlock and capture [[Admiral Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh]] both of whom were knocked out by a stun grenade.
* Tigh recognizes Kelly and calls him "the brig rat." Kelly is visibly uneasy about all this.
* Meanwhile, the [[Raptor]] with President [[Roslin]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] on board heads for the [[Basestar (RDM)#Rebel basestar|Basestar]].
* A pair of Vipers, piloted by Narcho and Hotdog, pursue the Raptor. Hotdog, who is unaware of the mutiny on ''Galactica'', gets the Raptor in his sights, but doesn't fire. Instead he orders the Raptor to identify itself.
* Narcho tells Hotdog to destroy the Raptor, but Hotdog continues to ask for the target's identification.
* Roslin transmits a message from the Raptor saying that she is aboard the Raptor. [[Gage]] blocks the transmission, but not before Hotdog receives it.
* [[Gaeta]], now in command of the CIC, contacts Hotdog and orders him to destroy the Raptor. When Hotdog continues to hold his fire, Narcho goes in and launches a pair of missiles at the Raptor.
* The [[Eight]] piloting the Raptor successfully avoids the missiles, which hit the Basestar instead. The Raptor successfully docks at the Basestar.
* Gaeta orders Colonel Tigh to be placed in the brig with the other Cylons, but orders Admiral Adama to be brought to the CIC.
* On board the Basestar, the Cylons demand to know why they're being fired upon. Roslin explains the situation. Fearing that the government has been overthrown, the Cylons want to jump away from the Fleet.
* Roslin insists that they give Adama a chance to retake ''Galactica''. Baltar points out that it's unlikely that Adama will win and that Gaeta and Zarek have the majority of support on ''Galactica''. Roslin counters that they've already seen evidence that not all of ''Galactica'''s crew support the mutiny.
* Roslin tells the Cylons to move their ship into the middle of the Fleet, so that ''Galactica'' won't be able to fire upon them.
* Back on ''Galactica'', Adama is brought to the CIC. Gaeta asks him to call Roslin and convince her to surrender.
* Adama refuses and instead pulls off his admiral pins. He throws them to Gaeta and sarcastically tells Gaeta that he's the admiral now and to make the call himself.
* Gaeta orders gun batteries to target the Basestar, but before they can do so, the Basestar moves into the middle of the Fleet. Gaeta calls off the attack and orders the Basestar to be quarantined. He also gives orders to prepare for [[Tom Zarek]]'s arrival.
* Adama asks Gaeta if he's planning on shooting him. Gaeta gives no response.

=== Act 1 ===
* ''[[Colonial One]]'' lands on ''Galactica'''s flight deck, with Zarek and the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]] on board.
* Kelly, Narcho, [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]], [[Diana Seelix|Seelix]], and other rebels escort Zarek from the flight deck, while [[Lee Adama|Lee]] and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] watch, hidden behind some machinery. Once they are out of sight, Lee and Starbuck move on.
* In a Raptor aboard the rebel Baseship, Roslin attempts to transmit a signal to anyone who will listen, without success.
* In the holding cell, Hera looks with concern at Helo's head wound. Athena attempts to assure her that he will get better.
* Caprica-Six nurses Tigh's ear, bleeding from the stun grenade.
* Anders wonders aloud what Gaeta will do. Tigh quips, "In your case, cut off one of your frakking legs."
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta tells Zarek that he has "a net" over the Baseship, and thus Zarek did not need to bring the entire Quorum with him to ''Galactica''. Zarek replies that as long as Gaeta insists on having a trial for Adama, he wants the Quorum where he can keep an eye on them. Zarek says they need to move on, but Gaeta replies that before that can happen, people must answer for what they've done, beginning with Adama.
* Tyrol continues to sneak through the corridors of ''Galactica'' unnoticed. On Deck D Corridor 2, he hears the sound of a door opening and runs for cover.
* Hidden from view, Tyrol observes Kelly and two rebel marines escorting [[Romo Lampkin]] at gunpoint. Romo wonders if anyone will feed his dog.
* In Adama's quarters, Zarek reads the charges against Adama: treason, desertion, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and gross dereliction of duty. Zarek reminds him that the punishment for these crimes is death by firing squad. All the while, Adama glares at Gaeta.
* Zarek tells Romo that the Admiral is entitled to a court martial, but they need a lawyer to handle his defense. Adama mutters, "They need a pimp."
* Romo wonders why they are doing all of this. Gaeta replies, "For justice." Romo, considering the tone of the room, conjectures that if he should choose to pass on this "field trip for justice," that the two marines guarding him will instead use him for target practice. Zarek impatiently tells him to just do his job.
* Zarek goes on to say that "Commander" Gaeta will represent the people, and that Zarek himself will be serving as judge. Romo wonders if they've run out of ship's captains. Gaeta replies that the captains are busy defending their ships against the Basestar Adama welcomed into the Fleet. "Shove it up your ass," Adama tells Gaeta pointedly.
* Gaeta continues to argue with a mockingly defiant Adama. As the argument begins to escalate, Romo asks for a few minutes with Adama.
* On the Basestar, Roslin continues to unsuccessfully try to use the Raptor's communication system to contact anyone, with the Cylons looking on. A Six remarks that they no longer have the protection of the Fleet, and the Viper patrols are becoming increasingly bold, firing into space, inviting the Cylons to react. Tory Foster tells the other Cylons that they should all talk.
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol uses a crowbar to pry the cover off of a service tunnel, and crawls inside.
* On ''Colonial One'', Zarek addresses the Quorum. As Zarek speaks in support of Gaeta's leadership of the military, the Quorum delegates are visibly concerned. Zarek tells the Quorum that he has brought them to ''Galactica'' to show Gaeta that the Quorum delegates are people who, "at the end of the day, still stand by your president." At this, the Quorum bursts into an excited discussion, which ends with [[Jacob Cantrell]] telling Zarek, "I think you should leave now, Mr. Vice President." The other delegates are in agreement.
* Zarek walks out of the conference room in defeat. In the adjacent corridor, he tells two marines, "Shoot them." Zarek then tells Kelly to get Gaeta. Kelly walks away to the sounds of screams and gunfire. He is visibly disturbed by the sounds.

=== Act 2 ===
* On ''Colonial One'', Gaeta looks in horror on the slain Quorum delegates, and angrily rebukes Zarek. Zarek reminds him that Gaeta began the coup, and that this is just another consequence of that. Gaeta is in disbelief, remarking that until now they had the truth on their side. Zarek tells him that the truth is told by whoever is left standing, and reminds him that Adama must be eliminated.
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol continues to crawl through a cramped and dirty service tunnel.
* On the rebel Baseship, Tory informs Roslin that the Cylons have decided to jump away to ensure their own survival. The Six tells Roslin that Gaeta will likely execute Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, and any of the others who oppose him, such as Kara, Helo, and Adama.
* Roslin urges the Cylons to stay, reminding them that they have all made a habit out of beating the odds, particularly William Adama, and that when he returns to command, he will know who stuck with him and who ran.
* Tyrol crawls out of the duct into an empty munitions locker, where he is met at gunpoint by Kelly. Tyrol notes that the rebels sprang him from the brig.
* Kelly tells him to get out of the duct, but Tyrol says that he is too tired and that Kelly should just shoot him. Kelly replies that he's a machine, to which Tyrol replies that Kelly is a "dumbass." Kelly and Tyrol both begin laughing at this, and Kelly lowers his rifle.
* They both hear the sounds of gunfire in the distance. Kelly remarks, "This was a hell of a ship once." Tyrol agrees. Kelly tells Tyrol he heard his child wasn't a Cylon, and that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was "trouble." Tyrol laughs, saying it would not have mattered.
* After collecting himself, Kelly again points his rifle at Tyrol, but when Tyrol braces himself for the shot, Kelly instead tells him to leave, yelling "Go on skinjob, go!" After Tyrol crawls back into the duct, Kelly berates himself.
* In Adama's quarters, Romo hands Adama a pen to sign a statement. Adama refuses, but Romo urges him to put his innocence on record, and to give his people time to retake the ship.
* One of the rebels who was guarding the holding cell goes to the latrine, where Starbuck smashes his head into the wall.
[[Image:Lida.jpg|thumb|Lida approaching Baltar.]]
* On the rebel Baseship, a Six named [[Lida]] asks Baltar if he is injured. He replies that they typically use the word "damaged" instead of "injured."
* In the corridor outside the holding cell, Lee and Starbuck argue over the best way to overpower the guards. Lee throws a grenade into their midst, and in the ensuing panic Lee and Starbuck gun them all down. Immediately after the last guard goes down, Starbuck ducks for cover, but an amused Lee nonchalantly walks to the thrown grenade and picks it back up. He tells Starbuck that he never pulled the pin, to which she states, "Not funny."
* With the guards dispatched, Lee and Starbuck free the prisoners, but Lee is upset to learn that his father is not among them.
* On their way out of the cell, Starbuck and Anders search the guards for weapons, but Lee tells them that they are quickly running out of time.
* A rebel turns the corner and fires at Starbuck and Anders. Starbuck shoots the rebel in the chest, but not before Anders is struck by a bullet in the neck, causing him to stumble.

=== Act 3 ===
* While Lee covers them, Starbuck looks after a wounded Anders. Sounds of yelling and gunfire indicate that there is fighting nearby. Lee insists that they need to leave.
* Tigh tells Caprica-Six to take Hera to Baltar's followers for safety, as "no one wants to go near those nutjobs." She insists she can take care of herself.
* Lee yells for Tigh to help him get Anders off the ground, but Starbuck tells Lee to go after his father instead. Athena and the others go with Lee and Tigh, while Starbuck stays with an incoherent Anders.
* In Adama's quarters, the "court martial" proceeds apace, with Gaeta arguing that Adama deserted them on New Caprica. Romo objects, saying Gaeta is badgering the witness. Not surprisingly, his objection goes unheard by Zarek.
* As Adama continues to mock Gaeta, Zarek receives a call telling him that Tigh and the other "skinjobs" escaped. Zarek tells Adama and the others that Tigh was killed trying to escape. At the news of his longtime friend's death, Adama shows the first signs of emotion, and tells Gaeta that he is not answering any more of his questions.
* Zarek declares the prisoner guilty as charged, upsetting Romo, who says, "This isn't a trial, this is an asylum." Zarek angrily grabs Romo and pushes him against the bulkhead.
* Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, prompting a smile from Adama and looks of concern from everyone else. Roslin announces that Gaeta took command of ''Galactica'' by force, and that the Cylons were merely defending themselves when they moved the baseship into the Fleet. She then commands the Fleet ships to power down their FTL drives.
* On the rebel Baseship, Roslin exclaims that their signal could not be jammed. Behind her, a [[Number Two|Leoben]] is leaning on a device with flashing red lights, to which the Raptor's comm system is presumably connected. "I thought this would do the trick," he says with a grin.
* Back on ''Galactica'', Starbuck slowly drags an unconscious Anders a short distance before falling on the floor, exhausted. [[Parr]], the rebel marine escorting a bound Romo, happens upon them, commanding Starbuck to show him her hands. Romo readies his pen. Starbuck draws her sidearm and pulls the trigger, but the weapon is empty. Seizing his opportunity, Romo stabs his captor in the neck repeatedly with his pen. After removing his restraints, he retrieves his sunglasses and a sidearm from the fallen guard.
* Starbuck implores Romo to help her get Anders to Dr. Cottle, but Romo refuses, citing the fact that on the way there, he and his "friend" had already been shot at twice, once by his own men. Further considering the situation, an obviously conflicted Romo chooses to turn around and help.
* In CIC, Gage informs Gaeta that ten of the thirty-five ships remaining in the Fleet shut down their FTL drives after Roslin's announcement. Narcho is upset, but Gaeta tells him that Roslin did them a favor in exposing those ships who would cause them trouble. Gaeta tells Gage to give jump coordinates only to those ships that kept their FTL drives online, and to order them to jump immediately.
* Gaeta then tells Narcho to assemble an execution detail comprised of men he can trust, to secure the main hangar bay launch tube, and to take Adama down there and await further orders. Narcho shows some reluctance, but he insists that Gaeta can count on him "all down the line."
* Gaeta asks Zarek, who is waiting nearby, if he is spying on him. Zarek insists that they simply need to get through the current predicament, and move on.
* In a corridor somewhere on ''Galactica'', Narcho leads a team of six rebel marines who are escorting Adama to the launch tube, with Kelly walking behind the group. After some consideration, Kelly breaks off from the group and goes to the [[memorial hallway]], where he drops his rifle and breaks down in tears.
* In a nearby corridor, Tigh and Athena keep watch while Lee opens a service panel and disconnects a power line, causing the main lights to go out. Sounds of gunfire indicate there is still heavy fighting nearby.
* Tyrol continues to crawl through service tubes, this time crawling behind a latrine. He coughs and gags at the smell.
* In the memorial hallway, Lee confronts Kelly, who is nearly catatonic with grief. He finally admits to Lee that the others are planning on executing Adama in the main launch tube. Lee moves to punch Kelly, but Tigh pulls him away. As they run to the hangar deck, Kelly picks up his rifle and runs after them, yelling, "I'm coming with you!"
* On the rebel Baseship, Baltar dreams of Adama's death by firing squad, which wakes him violently. In bed with him, Lida attempts to comfort him, but Baltar rebuffs her, saying that he has run for his life yet again. She tells him that fear makes people act differently, but he says that he did not run out of fear this time.
* For the first time, Baltar admits that he is merely playing the role of religious leader to humor his followers, and that he privately scorns their "provincial intellects" and their unfailing willingness to make him feel better; however, he also admits that he feels responsible for them, and that he must go back.
* On the hangar deck, Adama is tied to a chair in the main launch tube by a marine while Narcho stands nearby, distressed. As Narcho walks towards the eight marines with rifles at the ready, Adama spits.
* From the rebel Baseship, Roslin gives the rebels five minutes to return command to Admiral Adama.
* In CIC, an increasingly concerned Zarek listens to Roslin's ultimatum, and looks around for Gaeta, who is absent.
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta walks to Adama's desk, where he drops the admiral pins on ''Galactica'''s watch log. He then calls Narcho, telling him to carry out the execution.
* On the hangar deck, Narcho replies, "Yes, sir," and hangs up with Tigh pointing a sidearm at his head. Meanwhile, Lee unties his father from the chair in the launch tube, and Kelly and Athena have their rifles pointed at eight marines, all disarmed and kneeling with hands behind their heads.
* Adama is overjoyed to see Tigh, who he was told was dead. Tigh replies that for a while, he was.
* Adama addresses the kneeling, disarmed marines, saying, "I'm gonna take back my ship." Adama then addresses Narcho, who tells him that while he has always respected him, he hates the Cylons, and he cannot take orders from a leader who won't fight them. At this, Tigh raises his weapon to Narcho's head, but Adama orders him to stand down, and orders Narcho to be tied up instead.
* Sitting at Adama's desk, Gaeta removes his prosthesis and scratches the stump underneath.
* Deep in the bowels of ''Galactica'', Tyrol finally has enough room to crouch rather than crawl, allowing him to move faster.
* In CIC, Zarek orders Vireem to pass him through to Roslin. As Gaeta walks into CIC, Zarek addresses Roslin on the rebel Baseship, introducing himself as the President of the Twelve Colonies. He announces that Tigh was killed in an escape attempt, and that Adama was tried, found guilty of his crimes, and was executed by firing squad earlier that morning. Zarek insists that Roslin think of the welfare of the people of the Fleet, and surrender.
* Roslin vehemently refuses, vowing to use every weapon at her disposal to come after Zarek and the other mutineers. The weapon emplacements on the Baseship open, targeting ''Galactica''.

=== Act 4 ===
* In CIC, after Zarek's statements to Roslin, Gaeta remarks that now they have a military leader and a president in one. Zarek questions how Gaeta would have handled the situation, had he been there.
* Gage indicates that the Baseship is arming itself, and that they are jump ready. Gaeta orders the board be set to green, and a crew member inserts the FTL key at gunpoint.
* Tyrol rushes down a set of stairs in ''Galactica'''s FTL engine room.
* Adama marches towards CIC, leading an increasingly large group of marines, officers, and enlisted crew.
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol breaks open the door to the auxiliary control station, and attempts to shut down the FTL drive with his command code.
* As Adama and his group of loyalists continue their march to CIC, Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, commanding ''Galactica'' to surrender.
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol's command code is denied (as he is not currently in active duty). Instead he looks to some nearby machinery and, with some effort, removes a vital component and shuts down the FTL drive.
* In CIC, Gage announces the FTL drive's shutdown. Zarek begins ordering crew members to look into it, but no one moves. He tells Gaeta to launch Vipers to defend themselves, but Gaeta ignores him, and instead recalls his own words: "One day soon there's gonna be a reckoning."
* Gage announces that gun batteries have fixed target bearings and are ready to fire. With Zarek at a near-panic, Gaeta realizes they are defeated, and orders a weapons hold.
* Adama arms himself with the sidearm from a nearby marine, and the group storms CIC. No resistance is offered by the mutineers.
* Adama gets on the wireless, identifies himself, confirms that he has retaken command, and tells Roslin to stand down. Roslin, Baltar, and even the Cylons are relieved to hear his voice.
* Zarek, Gaeta, and the other mutineers are taken away at gunpoint.
* In the FTL engine room, an exhausted Tyrol drops the component as the massive FTL drive slowly come to a halt. As he turns to the bulkhead, he notices some significant structural damage which concerns him greatly.
* On ''Galactica'', Roslin climbs down a ladder and, seeing Adama alive for the first time since she boarded the Raptor, cries tears of joy. The two leaders walk together, his arm around her.
* In Gaeta's quarters, Gaeta and Baltar are smoking cigarettes - something Gaeta has not been seen doing for quite some time. Gaeta is telling Baltar of the many careers he once dreamed of pursuing: architecture, medicine, engineering, photography, and finally, science.
* Baltar, on the verge of tears, begins to say something, but Gaeta stops him. He assures Baltar that he is fine with the way things turned out, and that his only wish is that eventually, people realize who he is. Baltar tells Gaeta that he knows who he is.
* Gaeta and Zarek are seated in the main launch tube of the hangar deck, with Adama, Lee, Tigh, and Baltar standing behind the firing squad.
* Just before Adama orders the execution detail to fire, Gaeta looks down at his severed leg in astonishment and remarks, "It stopped."

== Notes ==
*The [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] were murdered on Zarek's order for supporting President Roslin. [[Lee Adama]] survived as he wasn't present during the Quorum session. Two other regular Quorum members (Gemenon Delegate and one other delegate) were replaced by temporary stand-ins (who were killed), and their fate is unknown.
*Romo Lampkin while being forced to serve as Adama's lawyer during his trial he referred to two looming Marine guards as "Wynken and Blynken". This was in reference to the poem of ''[[Wikipedia:Wynken, Blynken, and Nod|Wynken, Blynken, and Nod]]'', a late 19th century Dutch child's lullaby by [[Wikipedia:Eugene Field|Eugene Field]] about three fishermen fishing in the starry night in the sky with the help of the moon and uses a magic wooden shoe as their boat.<ref>[http://www3.amherst.edu/~rjyanco94/literature/eugenefield/poems/poemsofchildhood/wynkenblynkenandnod.html Wynken, Blynken, and Nod" Lullaby]</ref>
*This episode marks the death of Felix Gaeta and Tom Zarek, who are executed by firing squad for their mutiny against Adama and the government.
*The character Captain Kelly was last seen during season 3 when he was arrested for his bombing and assassinations of Baltar's lawyers. His character has appeared intermittently since the show began and it is fitting that he would be a double-turn coat as he was part of the original senior staff and his love for Admiral Adama is proven to be stronger than his hatred for the Cylons.
*The events depicted in "The Oath" and "Blood on the Scales" cover approximately nine hours: Tigh enters Adama's quarters at 0620 at the beginning of "The Oath", culminates with Gaeta seizing the CIC at 0922, and concludes with Adama and his loyalists retaking the CIC at 1532 in "Blood on the Scales". The executions of Gaeta and Zarek, however, take place at an unspecified time later.
*The ship's FTL drive is seen for the first time.

== Analysis ==
*Despite all of the support that Gaeta and Zarek seemed to have at the beginning of the mutiny, Roslin and Adama had more support from people opposed to it and possibly people who rethought it like Kelly. On Roslin and Adama's side were ''Galactica's'' senior staff (the members of CIC were either people on Gaeta's side or forced to work at gunpoint by marines), at least most of the crew given how many people joined Adama's march to CIC, the Quorum of Twelve and the Cylons and Baltar's followers. Gaeta and Zarek had the supporters they'd managed to gather amongst ''Galactica's'' crew and about 25 ships who refused Roslin's order to stand down FTL drives. In the end Adama and Roslin were successful because the people supported them more and Adama had enough respect from his crew that he was able to turn a lot back to his side just by stating his intention to retake the ship and walking by others. Gaeta and Zarek had to use force to get what they wanted. Many people, both in support of Gaeta/Zarek and in opposition, were killed. Given the death count, 40 in the first four hours of the mutiny, from 06:32 hours when Zarek was released from the Brig to sometime after 10:30 hours when Adama and Tigh are captured in the stowage bay (with most of the killing starting shortly after 09:02 hours after Capt. [[Kara Thrace]] rescues Delegate [[Lee Adama]] in the Hanger Deck. [[Peter Laird]] was the very first death, occuring shortly before 07:00 hours.), the attack on those Loyal to Adama was vicious. The break down of mutineer and loyalist deaths hasn't been given yet, but it is most likely that most of these deaths were those loyal to Adama since Gaeta/Zarek forces had the elements of both surprise and preparation in their favor. The 40 figure only represents the deaths by the end of "[[The Oath]]", near the approximate halfway point of the mutiny at 10:30 hours. With the retaking of CIC by Adama and Tigh, the mutiny ended at 15:32 hours, approximately nine hours elapsed time (they may have been resisters after that time not wishing to be taken into custody). Mutiny death figures since 10:30 hours, including the murder of the Quorum delegates, will be reflected in the survivor population count after the teaser of "[[No Exit]]" unless otherwise indicated.
*Gaeta's sudden lack of pain in his amputated leg signals that his chronic pain (which he tried to numb with painkillers during the webisodes) was partially psychological. Once he was at peace with who he was and what he had done, his mental pain and much of his physical pain and itching disappeared. His last words acknowledged that the irritation had stopped.
*The marines who eventually joined Adama's side near the end of the episode indicates that other mutineers simply were part of the coup out of self-preservation or at least wanting to be on the "winning" side. Once it was clear that Adama and the senior staff were rising up and reclaiming the ship, the marines, and others finally arose as well.
*By sparing Narcho's life, Admiral Adama characteristically shows his love and compassion for those who serve under him. Despite his speech of "no forgiveness" in "The Oath", it is clear that Adama will attempt to give the some of the mutineers a second chance.
*From a pragmatic standpoint, Humanity, such at the verge of extinction anyways, can not afford to lose large numbers of people.
*The mutineers at no point subdued all resistance aboard ''Galactica''. As Adama marched on CIC, many crew members rushed to join him, indicating that they were either still resisting or were waiting for a sign that the tide had turned. CIC also was controlled by Gaeta through the use of marines who held most of the staff at gunpoint.
* Tyrol, while attempting to disable Galactica's jump drive notices odd tears in the hull near the FTL assembly. It is not known whether this was hull stress caused by Tyrol disabling the FTL as the ship was about to jump, or an as-yet unexplained problem that has an impact on Galactica's hull.
**''Galactica'' may be suffering from serious long term metal fatigue and/or cumulative battle damage, as evidenced by the bulkhead deformation Tyrol discovers in the FTL drive room. Over the course of the series, Tigh has made a number of comments on ''Galactica's'' worsening structural condition, especially in absence of any possibility for repair at a shipyard. The ship itself is 50+ years old and has seen combat in two wars against the Cylons, and after all the damage its taken - the [[Battle of New Caprica]] being the most obvious example - it is not all that surprising to see the ship's structural integrity begin to fail like this.
** It is extremely unlikely that the damage witnessed by Tyrol was a result of his improper shut-down of the FTL, a tear of that size in metal would likely have been extremely loud and Tyrol does not notice the damage until he just happens to glance up at it. While it is possible that the FTL drive spun up would be louder than the sound of such a crack there is also no strong vibrations shown either in engineering or on the bridge, which would no doubt accompany such a large tear. Given that the area where Tyrol is an auxiliary control center, which is unlikely the be manned unless there is a problem with the FTL drives or for periodic maintenance, it is eminently possible that the tear has been there for some time since it has been quite some time since Galactica has been depicted as having FTL problem. However, as were are dealing with a device that can bend time and space, nothing can be completely discredited at this point.
*Roslin threatens to attack ''Galactica'' if Gaeta and Zarek do not surrender. Numerous missile emplacements are then shown opening along the arms of the rebel basestar. Due to the known incompetence of ''Galactica's'' mutineer crew (Gage being unable to jam Roslin's transmission in [[The Oath]] without Gaeta's help), the chaos aboard ''Galactica'' with a mutiny still ongoing, and ''Galatica's'' status as an undermanned vessel, it is possible that the basestar could have successfully engaged and destroyed ''Galactica'' or at least severely damaged her enough to prevent her escaping.
*Captain Kelly, after having been locked up in the brig for his attempts to assassinate Baltar's lawyers, still holds a deep love for the Galactica and her commander. As he was a part of the original senior leadership (3rd in command as shown after Adama's near-assassination), his nostalgic comments with Tyrol indicated his withering resolve to be part of the coup. In addition, being a witness to the cruelty of Zarek with the Quorum was probably the first catalyst for his repentance.
*Gaeta, prior to his execution, is shown smoking and having drinks with Baltar. This is significant as Gaeta is rarely shown smoking during the show, and when it is shown, it was done when Gaeta finally felt free to be who he wanted to be. The first time was during his taped interview with D'Anna where he "let his hair down" so to speak. Incorporating a final smoke for Gaeta seemed appropriate to allow the audience to see a humanized Gaeta again.
*Gaeta and Baltar have a civil conversation before Gaeta's execution indicating that the two have forgiven each other for thier past transgressions: Gaeta trying to kill Baltar and Baltar's involvement with the Cylons on New Caprica.
*Baltar, despite admitting to not really liking his followers, has developed a sense of responsibility towards them as shown when he's speaking with [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]] about them and deciding to go back. This is the first time that Baltar has been shown to truly care about something besides himself indicating he may have changed somewhat.
*Dialogue in this episode indicates there are 35 civilian ships left in the fleet. This is the first time since abandoning [[New Caprica]] that significant information on the number of ships left in the fleet has emerged. This number doesn't seem to tally with the observed losses in the fleet since the first season, although the number of ships has been portrayed inconsistently throughout the miniseries and the main seasons (a figure in the mid 70s being mentioned in [[Home, Part I]]). The figure of 35 stated here- indicating a loss of half the fleet's ships- seems somewhat inconsistent with a the human population that has only declined by about one fifth since the arrival of Pegasus's crew which bolstered the number of survivors to close to 50,000. Ships being abandoned on New Caprica or afterwards may explain this strikingly low number unless it is a continuity error. If 35 is a correct figure, the other ships in the fleet must have somehow found a way to take a huge number of extra people aboard.
*Ronald D Moore has commented that ''Galactica'' is severely undermanned at this point and therefore large parts of the ship are empty, making it easier for mutineers and counter-mutineers to move around unobserved. This however is contracted by the fact that ''Galactica'' now has the crew of ''Pegasus'' aboard and the ship has in fact been seen to be overcrowded. Even allowing for losses on New Caprica and the fact that ''Pegasus'' was undermanned, the ship should still have a larger crew compliment than when she began her journey. In orbit around New Caprica the two ships still had over 2000 personnel still serving and doubtless most if not all former crew re-enlisted after the evacuation of New Caprica. Galactica's combined crew have not been seen to have taken any substantial losses since leaving New Caprica that would leave much of the ship empty. This may be a retcon or continuity error. It should be noted, however, that a large proportion of the people on the ship following the escape from New Caprica were civilians who may have since been relocated. Furthermore, it may be that only certain areas of the ship - such as the living quarters - are overcrowded. The exact number of personnel that a fully manned ''Galactica'' should have is unknown.
*Despite [[Sharon Agathon]]'s vision-induced paranoia of a Six taking her daughter, [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]<ref>Sharon kills [[Natalie]] in "[[Sine Qua Non]]" when she sees the latter with Hera in a corridor after Sharon, President Roslin, and Caprica-Six all have a vision of a Six absconding with Hera at the opera house.</ref>, she does not protest [[Caprica-Six]] carrying Hera while Sharon supports her injured husband, [[Karl Agathon|Karl]]. It must be remembered that it was Caprica Six who aided in the escape of Athena with Hera from the Baseship after she got Helo to kill her so she would resurrect on the Baseship and recover their daughter. Caprica Six killed [[Sharon Valerii]] ("Boomer", who later resurrected) after Valerii tried to kill Hera for rejecting her and then Caprica Six helped get both Athena and Hera off the Baseship. Ironically, Caprica Six is the only character who has been seen specifically committing infanticide (not counting Baltar's dream about Adama drowning Hera).<ref>Caprica-Six snaps a human infant's neck in her first scene in the [[Miniseries]].</ref>
*Assuming the writers maintained their preference to mirror real-world military traditions, the firing squad assembled to execute Gaeta and Zarek would likely be composed of low-level mutineers who were treated with leniency and then required to seal their loyalty (and feelings of guilt) by executing their former conspirators.
*It isn't clear whether Gaeta and Zarek were given any sort of trial before being executed. Given Adama and Roslin's preference (albeit sometimes waveringly so) for maintaining the rule of law, it would be surprising if the lead mutineers were just shot out of hand.
* During Tyrol and Kelly's discussion in the arms locker, Kelly mentions that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was trouble, Tyrol's response "Thanks, it wouldn't have mattered", indicates that, even if he had known that Cally had been sleeping with Hot Dog, he would still have married her. This clearly indicates that Tyrol loved her, and the way in which he says it clearly indicates that he still does. This means that Tyrol's tirade against the Admiral after his wife's death was an act, possibly out of grief, possibly to get himself dismissed from the Deck Crew so he couldn't sabotage anything should he have any hidden programming.
* The Cylons among the fleet are, collectively, more loyal to Roslin and Adama (and more willing to forgive past conflicts) than are the humans.

== Questions ==
* What will become of the other mutineers (Racetrack, Narcho, Seelix, etc)? Will Adama follow through with his promise of "no forgiveness"?
* Will Kelly be allowed to resume his duties on Galactica?
* Who will take over Gaeta's duties?
* What repercussions will the Quorum's assassination have on the Fleet?
* What is the significance of the damage Tyrol discovers in the engine room? Has it been there long, or is it a result of the improper shut down of the FTL drive? Do other areas of the ship show similar signs of damage? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
* Is the same structural deficiency present near the other FTL drive?
* In the [[Miniseries]], Colonel Tigh tells Lt. Gaeta to "spin up FTL drives 1 and 2". Why did Tyrol's deactivation of one FTL drive stop Gaeta from ordering the other's use? Is the other FTL drive still functional?
** Answer: The ship needs both FTL drives to make a proper jump, and Tyrol pulled the [[Sync coil]] between the two.
* Will Anders survive his injuries? Were Starbuck and Lampkin even successful in getting him to sickbay?
* Will the rebel Cylons become less trusting of the humans as a result of this mutiny? Or will they be more inclined to trust certain humans, such as Roslin, since she managed to convince them to stay and follow her leadership?
* What was that device Roslin and Leoben were using to communicate with the rest of the Fleet?
* Why was Lee Adama - as opposed to Roslin - present at Zarek and Gaeta's execution?
* What will be done to the 25 ships who did not obey Roslin's order to power down their FTL drives?
* Will the FTL upgrades proceed once order has been brought back completely?
* Will there be a faction that will attempt to portray Zarek or Gaeta as martyrs?
* Will Helo survive his injuries?
* How will Baltar's new-found sense of responsibility toward his flock change his behavior?
* Will the Cylons' assistance of, and subordination to, President Roslin (and/or Colonial political leaders' fears of being associated with the failed coup d'état) secure them the citizenship and Quorum representation they seek?
* Do the Articles of Colonization include pre-approval language for the joining of the fabled "13th Tribe", now known to be Cylons? Such is often the case of comparable federation constitutions; the United States' former [[wikipedia:Articles of Confederation|Articles of Confederation]] induded such language with respect to "Canada" (meaning Ontario) and Bermuda.
* With Zarek dead and Lee Adama being the only surviving member of the Quorum (or one of the few surviving members, considering that two regular delegates were replaced by stand-ins), will he become the new Vice President?
* Are ''Galactica'''s computers now networked?
* With most of the Quorum dead, will Roslin and Adama use the attempted mutiny as a basis to declare martial law?

== Character Development ==
*''In the [[Miniseries]] (in the teaser) the first time we see Lt. Felix Gaeta and then-Commander Adama, Gaeta was handing him routine reports-and also unknown to them the first indications of trouble-while he was practicing his public address on the occasion of ''Galactica'''s-and his-retirement. It is of note considering what we now know of what the unimaginable future had for them:''

:'''Gaeta''': Morning, sir. (hands him messages) Com traffic from the midwatch.

:'''Adama:''' Morning. (re: messages) Anything interesting?

:'''Gaeta:''' Mostly housekeeping. Oh, there is one odd message we were copied on. (shows him the message) The one from Fleet headquarters. Courier officer's overdue coming back from Armistice station.

:'''Adama:''' Hm.

:'''Gaeta:''' They're asking for a status report on all FTL capable ships in case they need someone to jump out there tomorrow and see if his ship's had a mechanical problem.

:'''Adama:''' I think we're a little busy tomorrow, Mr. Gaeta. What do you think?

:'''Gaeta:''' (grins) Yes, sir. And may I also take this opportunity to say it's been both a pleasure and an honor to serve under you these past three years.

:'''Adama:''' Thank you, Mister Gaeta. The honor's been mine.

*It's also interesting to note that the first time Roslin meets a Number Two, he is trying to sabotage the fleet and she has him executed ([[Flesh and Bone]]); in this episode she and a Number Two are seen cooperating and sharing a friendly moment.
== Official Statements ==
*[http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-gaeta-blood-scales-angeli.html Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune interviews Michael Angeli about the episode:], The Six who sleeps with Baltar on the baseship is named [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]].

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*'''''Tom Zarek''' delivers his ultimatum to '''Laura Roslin''''':
:'''Zarek''': This is Tom Zarek, President of the Twelve Colonies. It's over, Laura. Saul Tigh was killed attempting to escape. Bill Adama was tried and found guilty of his crimes. A firing squad executed him this morning. It's done, Laura. You want to think about the people of this fleet now, and surrender.
:'''Roslin''': No. Not now. Not ever. Do you hear me? I will use every cannon, every bomb, every bullet, every weapon I have down to my own eyeteeth to end you. I swear it!''' ''I'm coming for all of you!'''''
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is disturbed by the sight of the slaughtered Quorum delegates:
:'''Gaeta''': We--we had the truth on our side. Now . . . now . . .
:'''Zarek''': The truth is told by whoever is left standing.
*'''''Lee Adama''' has just thrown a grenade towards the marines guarding the Cylon Prisoners, allowing him and '''Kara Thrace''' to kill them, after which Kara takes cover and Lee looks at her both amused and pleased with himself:
:'''Lee Adama''': ''walking forward and picking up the Grenade'' I never pulled the pin.
:'''Kara Thrace''': Ok, that is not funny.
:'''Lee Adama''': It would have been if you had thought of it.
:'''Kara Thrace''': No, still not funny.
*'''''Laura Roslin''''' broadcasting to the fleet:
:'''Roslin''': This is President Laura Roslin speaking from the Cylon baseship. Felix Gaeta has seized ''Galactica'' by force. The Cylons were defending themselves. They will not harm you. I repeat, the Cylons will not harm you. I am asking all ships' captains not to jump. Do not jump! Shut down your FTL drives!
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is about to be executed for his crimes:
:'''Gaeta''': (referring to the pain from his lost leg) It stopped.

== Guest Stars ==
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]
* [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
* [[Sebastian Spence]] as Lieutenant [[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Costanza]]
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
* [[Jennifer Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix|Diana "Hardball" Seelix]]
* [[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]
* [[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]]
* [[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]]
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Sergeant [[Allan Nowart]]
* [[Alexandra Thomas]] as [[Hera Agathon]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]] / [[Leoben Conoy]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Andrew McIlroy]] as [[Jacob Cantrell]]
* [[Marilyn Norry]] as [[Reza Chronides]]
* [[Judith Maxie]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Picon Delegate|Picon Delegate]]
* [[Iris Paluly]] as Speaking Delegate [[Dahlia]]
* [[Veena Sood]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Quorum Delegate|Quorum Delegate]]
* [[Adrian Holmes]] as Marine [[Parr]]

== References ==
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Talk:No Exit/Archive 1

2009-02-15T17:30:28Z

Raziel Anarki: /* Call Sheet */

==Call Sheet==

Can anyone please sharpen the image of the sheet and put the contents here? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

: Well, to me the picture looks like it has been deliberately modified to be unreadable, as only the set details are blurry. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 17:30, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

==Ellen's resurrection==
How can Ellen download without resurrection technology? Does that mean that Ellen is not in the womb of Caprica 6? (Or does Caprica 6 and/or child die forcing resurrection?) Which basestar has she resurrected on?
[[User:Seven of Nine|Seven of Nine]] 12:25, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:Ellen died and resurrected at the time of the exodus from New Caprica, months before the destruction of the Resurrection Hub. Don't forget, they do flashbacks that follow the events that happened since, such as the algae planet. -- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 10:34, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Plot hole==
Found a major plot hole regarding the Journey of the Five. Anders states that they traveled at near-light speed from Earth to the Colonies, resulting in a time dilation effect. Time passed slower aboard the ship than it did in real space. Since Earth was nuked 2000 years ago, then that means 2000 years passed in real space while a considerably shorter amount of time passed aboard the Five's space ship. We don't know the exact amount of time that passed aboard the ship, but it is safe to assume that it would have been considerably less than 2000 years. The question becomes: how far does the ship travel? If the time dilation effect results in 2000 years passing in real space, then the Five space ship must have traveled at most only a few light years to reach the colonies. If, for example, only 5 years pass aboard the Five ship and they are traveling close to light speed, then they can only travel a bit less than 5 light years to reach their destination. Which means the Colonies and Earth are *much* closer to each other than the series has let on. Even given a roundabout journey by the RTFF, the distance to the Algae Planet alone would have to be very close in order for the Five to stop and plant clues there, to say nothing of the virus probe or the possibility that the Five built the Star Map on Kobol as well.

[[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 08:26, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:The ship you mentioned could be sent on its journey years before the Earth's nuclear holocaust. We could even see Allen telling her husband he would be resurrected in one flashback of the holocaust. So this Final Five resurrection ship was quite obviously already on its way to the 12 colonies by the time of the holocaust. A Problem may it be that we have no idea how the final five back on Earth have ever come to acknowledge the existence of Cylons made by the twelve tribes or rather the fact that by the time they are actually going to be constructed by the twelve tribes. -- [[User:FNj|FNj]] 14:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

:Are you certain you have the right reference frame? It seems to me that if 2000 years passed outside of a ship traveling close to c, then it would have traveled a significantly high fraction of 2000 light years. If we could launch a ship to Alpha Centauri at 99% of c, then those of us on Earth would see it arrive in around 5 years (leaving aside time for acceleration/deceleration), not 100, 1000, or 2000 years. However, anyone on board might only experience a few months. -- [[User:Xenophon10k|Xenophon10k]] 16:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I ran the problem past a physicist and this is what I got:

The ship from Earth, travelling at near-light speed, takes 2000 years to travel to the Colonies. Anders says they resurrected onto a ship that they built in orbit of Earth, implying that it was still in orbit at the time of the Earth holocaust. Even if the ship had a head start, it would only be a few light years from Earth when the holocaust took place, given that the resurrection project would have to have been completed and installed aboard the ship before it left, and the Five all worked on the project.

At .99 c, approximately 250 years would pass aboard the Five's ship, while 2000 years would pass in real time. Given the fact that they had resurrection technology, it's easily possible for the Five to survive the trip.

The continuity problem is that Galactica's journey to Earth is incredibly roundabout, even given a detour to Kobol. It's 13 000 light years from the Algae planet to the Ionian Nebula, while Kobol is only 4000 light years from the same place. (It took light from the first supernova 4000 years to reach Kobol.) Given the other stops Galactica took along the way, they were almost going around in a huge circle (like going from Los Angeles to New York by way of Argentina).

[[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 19:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Blood on the Scales

2009-02-15T14:53:29Z

Raziel Anarki: /* Questions */ Tyrol pulled the "sync coil" between the drives according to dialog in No Exit

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== Overview ==
:''[[Felix Gaeta]]'s mutiny continues while Roslin finds refuge on the Cylon Basestar.''

== Summary ==

=== Teaser ===
* Rebel marines led by [[Aaron Kelly]] storm the airlock and capture [[Admiral Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh]] both of whom were knocked out by a stun grenade.
* Tigh recognizes Kelly and calls him "the brig rat." Kelly is visibly uneasy about all this.
* Meanwhile, the [[Raptor]] with President [[Roslin]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] on board heads for the [[Basestar (RDM)#Rebel basestar|Basestar]].
* A pair of Vipers, piloted by Narcho and Hotdog, pursue the Raptor. Hotdog, who is unaware of the mutiny on ''Galactica'', gets the Raptor in his sights, but doesn't fire. Instead he orders the Raptor to identify itself.
* Narcho tells Hotdog to destroy the Raptor, but Hotdog continues to ask for the target's identification.
* Roslin transmits a message from the Raptor saying that she is aboard the Raptor. [[Gage]] blocks the transmission, but not before Hotdog receives it.
* [[Gaeta]], now in command of the CIC, contacts Hotdog and orders him to destroy the Raptor. When Hotdog continues to hold his fire, Narcho goes in and launches a pair of missiles at the Raptor.
* The [[Eight]] piloting the Raptor successfully avoids the missiles, which hit the Basestar instead. The Raptor successfully docks at the Basestar.
* Gaeta orders Colonel Tigh to be placed in the brig with the other Cylons, but orders Admiral Adama to be brought to the CIC.
* On board the Basestar, the Cylons demand to know why they're being fired upon. Roslin explains the situation. Fearing that the government has been overthrown, the Cylons want to jump away from the Fleet.
* Roslin insists that they give Adama a chance to retake ''Galactica''. Baltar points out that it's unlikely that Adama will win and that Gaeta and Zarek have the majority of support on ''Galactica''. Roslin counters that they've already seen evidence that not all of ''Galactica'''s crew support the mutiny.
* Roslin tells the Cylons to move their ship into the middle of the Fleet, so that ''Galactica'' won't be able to fire upon them.
* Back on ''Galactica'', Adama is brought to the CIC. Gaeta asks him to call Roslin and convince her to surrender.
* Adama refuses and instead pulls off his admiral pins. He throws them to Gaeta and sarcastically tells Gaeta that he's the admiral now and to make the call himself.
* Gaeta orders gun batteries to target the Basestar, but before they can do so, the Basestar moves into the middle of the Fleet. Gaeta calls off the attack and orders the Basestar to be quarantined. He also gives orders to prepare for [[Tom Zarek]]'s arrival.
* Adama asks Gaeta if he's planning on shooting him. Gaeta gives no response.

=== Act 1 ===
* ''[[Colonial One]]'' lands on ''Galactica'''s flight deck, with Zarek and the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]] on board.
* Kelly, Narcho, [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]], [[Diana Seelix|Seelix]], and other rebels escort Zarek from the flight deck, while [[Lee Adama|Lee]] and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] watch, hidden behind some machinery. Once they are out of sight, Lee and Starbuck move on.
* In a Raptor aboard the rebel Baseship, Roslin attempts to transmit a signal to anyone who will listen, without success.
* In the holding cell, Hera looks with concern at Helo's head wound. Athena attempts to assure her that he will get better.
* Caprica-Six nurses Tigh's ear, bleeding from the stun grenade.
* Anders wonders aloud what Gaeta will do. Tigh quips, "In your case, cut off one of your frakking legs."
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta tells Zarek that he has "a net" over the Baseship, and thus Zarek did not need to bring the entire Quorum with him to ''Galactica''. Zarek replies that as long as Gaeta insists on having a trial for Adama, he wants the Quorum where he can keep an eye on them. Zarek says they need to move on, but Gaeta replies that before that can happen, people must answer for what they've done, beginning with Adama.
* Tyrol continues to sneak through the corridors of ''Galactica'' unnoticed. On Deck D Corridor 2, he hears the sound of a door opening and runs for cover.
* Hidden from view, Tyrol observes Kelly and two rebel marines escorting [[Romo Lampkin]] at gunpoint. Romo wonders if anyone will feed his dog.
* In Adama's quarters, Zarek reads the charges against Adama: treason, desertion, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and gross dereliction of duty. Zarek reminds him that the punishment for these crimes is death by firing squad. All the while, Adama glares at Gaeta.
* Zarek tells Romo that the Admiral is entitled to a court martial, but they need a lawyer to handle his defense. Adama mutters, "They need a pimp."
* Romo wonders why they are doing all of this. Gaeta replies, "For justice." Romo, considering the tone of the room, conjectures that if he should choose to pass on this "field trip for justice," that the two marines guarding him will instead use him for target practice. Zarek impatiently tells him to just do his job.
* Zarek goes on to say that "Commander" Gaeta will represent the people, and that Zarek himself will be serving as judge. Romo wonders if they've run out of ship's captains. Gaeta replies that the captains are busy defending their ships against the Basestar Adama welcomed into the Fleet. "Shove it up your ass," Adama tells Gaeta pointedly.
* Gaeta continues to argue with a mockingly defiant Adama. As the argument begins to escalate, Romo asks for a few minutes with Adama.
* On the Basestar, Roslin continues to unsuccessfully try to use the Raptor's communication system to contact anyone, with the Cylons looking on. A Six remarks that they no longer have the protection of the Fleet, and the Viper patrols are becoming increasingly bold, firing into space, inviting the Cylons to react. Tory Foster tells the other Cylons that they should all talk.
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol uses a crowbar to pry the cover off of a service tunnel, and crawls inside.
* On ''Colonial One'', Zarek addresses the Quorum. As Zarek speaks in support of Gaeta's leadership of the military, the Quorum delegates are visibly concerned. Zarek tells the Quorum that he has brought them to ''Galactica'' to show Gaeta that the Quorum delegates are people who, "at the end of the day, still stand by your president." At this, the Quorum bursts into an excited discussion, which ends with [[Jacob Cantrell]] telling Zarek, "I think you should leave now, Mr. Vice President." The other delegates are in agreement.
* Zarek walks out of the conference room in defeat. In the adjacent corridor, he tells two marines, "Shoot them." Zarek then tells Kelly to get Gaeta. Kelly walks away to the sounds of screams and gunfire. He is visibly disturbed by the sounds.

=== Act 2 ===
* On ''Colonial One'', Gaeta looks in horror on the slain Quorum delegates, and angrily rebukes Zarek. Zarek reminds him that Gaeta began the coup, and that this is just another consequence of that. Gaeta is in disbelief, remarking that until now they had the truth on their side. Zarek tells him that the truth is told by whoever is left standing, and reminds him that Adama must be eliminated.
* On ''Galactica'', Tyrol continues to crawl through a cramped and dirty service tunnel.
* On the rebel Baseship, Tory informs Roslin that the Cylons have decided to jump away to ensure their own survival. The Six tells Roslin that Gaeta will likely execute Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, and any of the others who oppose him, such as Kara, Helo, and Adama.
* Roslin urges the Cylons to stay, reminding them that they have all made a habit out of beating the odds, particularly William Adama, and that when he returns to command, he will know who stuck with him and who ran.
* Tyrol crawls out of the duct into an empty munitions locker, where he is met at gunpoint by Kelly. Tyrol notes that the rebels sprang him from the brig.
* Kelly tells him to get out of the duct, but Tyrol says that he is too tired and that Kelly should just shoot him. Kelly replies that he's a machine, to which Tyrol replies that Kelly is a "dumbass." Kelly and Tyrol both begin laughing at this, and Kelly lowers his rifle.
* They both hear the sounds of gunfire in the distance. Kelly remarks, "This was a hell of a ship once." Tyrol agrees. Kelly tells Tyrol he heard his child wasn't a Cylon, and that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was "trouble." Tyrol laughs, saying it would not have mattered.
* After collecting himself, Kelly again points his rifle at Tyrol, but when Tyrol braces himself for the shot, Kelly instead tells him to leave, yelling "Go on skinjob, go!" After Tyrol crawls back into the duct, Kelly berates himself.
* In Adama's quarters, Romo hands Adama a pen to sign a statement. Adama refuses, but Romo urges him to put his innocence on record, and to give his people time to retake the ship.
* One of the rebels who was guarding the holding cell goes to the latrine, where Starbuck smashes his head into the wall.
[[Image:Lida.jpg|thumb|Lida approaching Baltar.]]
* On the rebel Baseship, a Six named [[Lida]] asks Baltar if he is injured. He replies that they typically use the word "damaged" instead of "injured."
* In the corridor outside the holding cell, Lee and Starbuck argue over the best way to overpower the guards. Lee throws a grenade into their midst, and in the ensuing panic Lee and Starbuck gun them all down. Immediately after the last guard goes down, Starbuck ducks for cover, but an amused Lee nonchalantly walks to the thrown grenade and picks it back up. He tells Starbuck that he never pulled the pin, to which she states, "Not funny."
* With the guards dispatched, Lee and Starbuck free the prisoners, but Lee is upset to learn that his father is not among them.
* On their way out of the cell, Starbuck and Anders search the guards for weapons, but Lee tells them that they are quickly running out of time.
* A rebel turns the corner and fires at Starbuck and Anders. Starbuck shoots the rebel in the chest, but not before Anders is struck by a bullet in the neck, causing him to stumble.

=== Act 3 ===
* While Lee covers them, Starbuck looks after a wounded Anders. Sounds of yelling and gunfire indicate that there is fighting nearby. Lee insists that they need to leave.
* Tigh tells Caprica-Six to take Hera to Baltar's followers for safety, as "no one wants to go near those nutjobs." She insists she can take care of herself.
* Lee yells for Tigh to help him get Anders off the ground, but Starbuck tells Lee to go after his father instead. Athena and the others go with Lee and Tigh, while Starbuck stays with an incoherent Anders.
* In Adama's quarters, the "court martial" proceeds apace, with Gaeta arguing that Adama deserted them on New Caprica. Romo objects, saying Gaeta is badgering the witness. Not surprisingly, his objection goes unheard by Zarek.
* As Adama continues to mock Gaeta, Zarek receives a call telling him that Tigh and the other "skinjobs" escaped. Zarek tells Adama and the others that Tigh was killed trying to escape. At the news of his longtime friend's death, Adama shows the first signs of emotion, and tells Gaeta that he is not answering any more of his questions.
* Zarek declares the prisoner guilty as charged, upsetting Romo, who says, "This isn't a trial, this is an asylum." Zarek angrily grabs Romo and pushes him against the bulkhead.
* Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, prompting a smile from Adama and looks of concern from everyone else. Roslin announces that Gaeta took command of ''Galactica'' by force, and that the Cylons were merely defending themselves when they moved the baseship into the Fleet. She then commands the Fleet ships to power down their FTL drives.
* On the rebel Baseship, Roslin exclaims that their signal could not be jammed. Behind her, a [[Number Two|Leoben]] is leaning on a device with flashing red lights, to which the Raptor's comm system is presumably connected. "I thought this would do the trick," he says with a grin.
* Back on ''Galactica'', Starbuck slowly drags an unconscious Anders a short distance before falling on the floor, exhausted. [[Parr]], the rebel marine escorting a bound Romo, happens upon them, commanding Starbuck to show him her hands. Romo readies his pen. Starbuck draws her sidearm and pulls the trigger, but the weapon is empty. Seizing his opportunity, Romo stabs his captor in the neck repeatedly with his pen. After removing his restraints, he retrieves his sunglasses and a sidearm from the fallen guard.
* Starbuck implores Romo to help her get Anders to Dr. Cottle, but Romo refuses, citing the fact that on the way there, he and his "friend" had already been shot at twice, once by his own men. Further considering the situation, an obviously conflicted Romo chooses to turn around and help.
* In CIC, Gage informs Gaeta that ten of the thirty-five ships remaining in the Fleet shut down their FTL drives after Roslin's announcement. Narcho is upset, but Gaeta tells him that Roslin did them a favor in exposing those ships who would cause them trouble. Gaeta tells Gage to give jump coordinates only to those ships that kept their FTL drives online, and to order them to jump immediately.
* Gaeta then tells Narcho to assemble an execution detail comprised of men he can trust, to secure the main hangar bay launch tube, and to take Adama down there and await further orders. Narcho shows some reluctance, but he insists that Gaeta can count on him "all down the line."
* Gaeta asks Zarek, who is waiting nearby, if he is spying on him. Zarek insists that they simply need to get through the current predicament, and move on.
* In a corridor somewhere on ''Galactica'', Narcho leads a team of six rebel marines who are escorting Adama to the launch tube, with Kelly walking behind the group. After some consideration, Kelly breaks off from the group and goes to the [[memorial hallway]], where he drops his rifle and breaks down in tears.
* In a nearby corridor, Tigh and Athena keep watch while Lee opens a service panel and disconnects a power line, causing the main lights to go out. Sounds of gunfire indicate there is still heavy fighting nearby.
* Tyrol continues to crawl through service tubes, this time crawling behind a latrine. He coughs and gags at the smell.
* In the memorial hallway, Lee confronts Kelly, who is nearly catatonic with grief. He finally admits to Lee that the others are planning on executing Adama in the main launch tube. Lee moves to punch Kelly, but Tigh pulls him away. As they run to the hangar deck, Kelly picks up his rifle and runs after them, yelling, "I'm coming with you!"
* On the rebel Baseship, Baltar dreams of Adama's death by firing squad, which wakes him violently. In bed with him, Lida attempts to comfort him, but Baltar rebuffs her, saying that he has run for his life yet again. She tells him that fear makes people act differently, but he says that he did not run out of fear this time.
* For the first time, Baltar admits that he is merely playing the role of religious leader to humor his followers, and that he privately scorns their "provincial intellects" and their unfailing willingness to make him feel better; however, he also admits that he feels responsible for them, and that he must go back.
* On the hangar deck, Adama is tied to a chair in the main launch tube by a marine while Narcho stands nearby, distressed. As Narcho walks towards the eight marines with rifles at the ready, Adama spits.
* From the rebel Baseship, Roslin gives the rebels five minutes to return command to Admiral Adama.
* In CIC, an increasingly concerned Zarek listens to Roslin's ultimatum, and looks around for Gaeta, who is absent.
* In Adama's quarters, Gaeta walks to Adama's desk, where he drops the admiral pins on ''Galactica'''s watch log. He then calls Narcho, telling him to carry out the execution.
* On the hangar deck, Narcho replies, "Yes, sir," and hangs up with Tigh pointing a sidearm at his head. Meanwhile, Lee unties his father from the chair in the launch tube, and Kelly and Athena have their rifles pointed at eight marines, all disarmed and kneeling with hands behind their heads.
* Adama is overjoyed to see Tigh, who he was told was dead. Tigh replies that for a while, he was.
* Adama addresses the kneeling, disarmed marines, saying, "I'm gonna take back my ship." Adama then addresses Narcho, who tells him that while he has always respected him, he hates the Cylons, and he cannot take orders from a leader who won't fight them. At this, Tigh raises his weapon to Narcho's head, but Adama orders him to stand down, and orders Narcho to be tied up instead.
* Sitting at Adama's desk, Gaeta removes his prosthesis and scratches the stump underneath.
* Deep in the bowels of ''Galactica'', Tyrol finally has enough room to crouch rather than crawl, allowing him to move faster.
* In CIC, Zarek orders Vireem to pass him through to Roslin. As Gaeta walks into CIC, Zarek addresses Roslin on the rebel Baseship, introducing himself as the President of the Twelve Colonies. He announces that Tigh was killed in an escape attempt, and that Adama was tried, found guilty of his crimes, and was executed by firing squad earlier that morning. Zarek insists that Roslin think of the welfare of the people of the Fleet, and surrender.
* Roslin vehemently refuses, vowing to use every weapon at her disposal to come after Zarek and the other mutineers. The weapon emplacements on the Baseship open, targeting ''Galactica''.

=== Act 4 ===
* In CIC, after Zarek's statements to Roslin, Gaeta remarks that now they have a military leader and a president in one. Zarek questions how Gaeta would have handled the situation, had he been there.
* Gage indicates that the Baseship is arming itself, and that they are jump ready. Gaeta orders the board be set to green, and a crew member inserts the FTL key at gunpoint.
* Tyrol rushes down a set of stairs in ''Galactica'''s FTL engine room.
* Adama marches towards CIC, leading an increasingly large group of marines, officers, and enlisted crew.
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol breaks open the door to the auxiliary control station, and attempts to shut down the FTL drive with his command code.
* As Adama and his group of loyalists continue their march to CIC, Roslin's voice is heard over the wireless, commanding ''Galactica'' to surrender.
* In the FTL engine room, Tyrol's command code is denied (as he is not currently in active duty). Instead he looks to some nearby machinery and, with some effort, removes a vital component and shuts down the FTL drive.
* In CIC, Gage announces the FTL drive's shutdown. Zarek begins ordering crew members to look into it, but no one moves. He tells Gaeta to launch Vipers to defend themselves, but Gaeta ignores him, and instead recalls his own words: "One day soon there's gonna be a reckoning."
* Gage announces that gun batteries have fixed target bearings and are ready to fire. With Zarek at a near-panic, Gaeta realizes they are defeated, and orders a weapons hold.
* Adama arms himself with the sidearm from a nearby marine, and the group storms CIC. No resistance is offered by the mutineers.
* Adama gets on the wireless, identifies himself, confirms that he has retaken command, and tells Roslin to stand down. Roslin, Baltar, and even the Cylons are relieved to hear his voice.
* Zarek, Gaeta, and the other mutineers are taken away at gunpoint.
* In the FTL engine room, an exhausted Tyrol drops the component as the massive FTL drive slowly come to a halt. As he turns to the bulkhead, he notices some significant structural damage which concerns him greatly.
* On ''Galactica'', Roslin climbs down a ladder and, seeing Adama alive for the first time since she boarded the Raptor, cries tears of joy. The two leaders walk together, his arm around her.
* In Gaeta's quarters, Gaeta and Baltar are smoking cigarettes - something Gaeta has not been seen doing for quite some time. Gaeta is telling Baltar of the many careers he once dreamed of pursuing: architecture, medicine, engineering, photography, and finally, science.
* Baltar, on the verge of tears, begins to say something, but Gaeta stops him. He assures Baltar that he is fine with the way things turned out, and that his only wish is that eventually, people realize who he is. Baltar tells Gaeta that he knows who he is.
* Gaeta and Zarek are seated in the main launch tube of the hangar deck, with Adama, Lee, Tigh, and Baltar standing behind the firing squad.
* Just before Adama orders the execution detail to fire, Gaeta looks down at his severed leg in astonishment and remarks, "It stopped."

== Notes ==
*The [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] were murdered on Zarek's order for supporting President Roslin. [[Lee Adama]] survived as he wasn't present during the Quorum session. Two other regular Quorum members (Gemenon Delegate and one other delegate) were replaced by temporary stand-ins (who were killed), and their fate is unknown.
*Romo Lampkin while being forced to serve as Adama's lawyer during his trial he referred to two looming Marine guards as "Wynken and Blynken". This was in reference to the poem of ''[[Wikipedia:Wynken, Blynken, and Nod|Wynken, Blynken, and Nod]]'', a late 19th century Dutch child's lullaby by [[Wikipedia:Eugene Field|Eugene Field]] about three fishermen fishing in the starry night in the sky with the help of the moon and uses a magic wooden shoe as their boat.<ref>[http://www3.amherst.edu/~rjyanco94/literature/eugenefield/poems/poemsofchildhood/wynkenblynkenandnod.html Wynken, Blynken, and Nod" Lullaby]</ref>
*This episode marks the death of Felix Gaeta and Tom Zarek, who are executed by firing squad for their mutiny against Adama and the government.
*The character Captain Kelly was last seen during season 3 when he was arrested for his bombing and assassinations of Baltar's lawyers. His character has appeared intermittently since the show began and it is fitting that he would be a double-turn coat as he was part of the original senior staff and his love for Admiral Adama is proven to be stronger than his hatred for the Cylons.
*The events depicted in "The Oath" and "Blood on the Scales" cover approximately nine hours: Tigh enters Adama's quarters at 0620 at the beginning of "The Oath", culminates with Gaeta seizing the CIC at 0922, and concludes with Adama and his loyalists retaking the CIC at 1532 in "Blood on the Scales". The executions of Gaeta and Zarek, however, take place at an unspecified time later.
*The ship's FTL drive is seen for the first time.

== Analysis ==
*Despite all of the support that Gaeta and Zarek seemed to have at the beginning of the mutiny, Roslin and Adama had more support from people opposed to it and possibly people who rethought it like Kelly. On Roslin and Adama's side were ''Galactica's'' senior staff (the members of CIC were either people on Gaeta's side or forced to work at gunpoint by marines), at least most of the crew given how many people joined Adama's march to CIC, the Quorum of Twelve and the Cylons and Baltar's followers. Gaeta and Zarek had the supporters they'd managed to gather amongst ''Galactica's'' crew and about 25 ships who refused Roslin's order to stand down FTL drives. In the end Adama and Roslin were successful because the people supported them more and Adama had enough respect from his crew that he was able to turn a lot back to his side just by stating his intention to retake the ship and walking by others. Gaeta and Zarek had to use force to get what they wanted. Many people, both in support of Gaeta/Zarek and in opposition, were killed. Given the death count, 40 in the first four hours of the mutiny, from 06:32 hours when Zarek was released from the Brig to sometime after 10:30 hours when Adama and Tigh are captured in the stowage bay (with most of the killing starting shortly after 09:02 hours after Capt. [[Kara Thrace]] rescues Delegate [[Lee Adama]] in the Hanger Deck. [[Peter Laird]] was the very first death, occuring shortly before 07:00 hours.), the attack on those Loyal to Adama was vicious. The break down of mutineer and loyalist deaths hasn't been given yet, but it is most likely that most of these deaths were those loyal to Adama since Gaeta/Zarek forces had the elements of both surprise and preparation in their favor. The 40 figure only represents the deaths by the end of "[[The Oath]]", near the approximate halfway point of the mutiny at 10:30 hours. With the retaking of CIC by Adama and Tigh, the mutiny ended at 15:32 hours, approximately nine hours elapsed time (they may have been resisters after that time not wishing to be taken into custody). Mutiny death figures since 10:30 hours, including the murder of the Quorum delegates, will be reflected in the survivor population count after the teaser of "[[No Exit]]" unless otherwise indicated.
*Gaeta's sudden lack of pain in his amputated leg signals that his chronic pain (which he tried to numb with painkillers during the webisodes) was partially psychological. Once he was at peace with who he was and what he had done, his mental pain and much of his physical pain and itching disappeared. His last words acknowledged that the irritation had stopped.
*The marines who eventually joined Adama's side near the end of the episode indicates that other mutineers simply were part of the coup out of self-preservation or at least wanting to be on the "winning" side. Once it was clear that Adama and the senior staff were rising up and reclaiming the ship, the marines, and others finally arose as well.
*By sparing Narcho's life, Admiral Adama characteristically shows his love and compassion for those who serve under him. Despite his speech of "no forgiveness" in "The Oath", it is clear that Adama will attempt to give the some of the mutineers a second chance.
*From a pragmatic standpoint, Humanity, such at the verge of extinction anyways, can not afford to lose large numbers of people.
*The mutineers at no point subdued all resistance aboard ''Galactica''. As Adama marched on CIC, many crew members rushed to join him, indicating that they were either still resisting or were waiting for a sign that the tide had turned. CIC also was controlled by Gaeta through the use of marines who held most of the staff at gunpoint.
* Tyrol, while attempting to disable Galactica's jump drive notices odd tears in the hull near the FTL assembly. It is not known whether this was hull stress caused by Tyrol disabling the FTL as the ship was about to jump, or an as-yet unexplained problem that has an impact on Galactica's hull.
**''Galactica'' may be suffering from serious long term metal fatigue and/or cumulative battle damage, as evidenced by the bulkhead deformation Tyrol discovers in the FTL drive room. Over the course of the series, Tigh has made a number of comments on ''Galactica's'' worsening structural condition, especially in absence of any possibility for repair at a shipyard. The ship itself is 50+ years old and has seen combat in two wars against the Cylons, and after all the damage its taken - the [[Battle of New Caprica]] being the most obvious example - it is not all that surprising to see the ship's structural integrity begin to fail like this.
** It is extremely unlikely that the damage witnessed by Tyrol was a result of his improper shut-down of the FTL, a tear of that size in metal would likely have been extremely loud and Tyrol does not notice the damage until he just happens to glance up at it. While it is possible that the FTL drive spun up would be louder than the sound of such a crack there is also no strong vibrations shown either in engineering or on the bridge, which would no doubt accompany such a large tear. Given that the area where Tyrol is an auxiliary control center, which is unlikely the be manned unless there is a problem with the FTL drives or for periodic maintenance, it is eminently possible that the tear has been there for some time since it has been quite some time since Galactica has been depicted as having FTL problem. However, as were are dealing with a device that can bend time and space, nothing can be completely discredited at this point.
*Roslin threatens to attack ''Galactica'' if Gaeta and Zarek do not surrender. Numerous missile emplacements are then shown opening along the arms of the rebel basestar. Due to the known incompetence of ''Galactica's'' mutineer crew (Gage being unable to jam Roslin's transmission in [[The Oath]] without Gaeta's help), the chaos aboard ''Galactica'' with a mutiny still ongoing, and ''Galatica's'' status as an undermanned vessel, it is possible that the basestar could have successfully engaged and destroyed ''Galactica'' or at least severely damaged her enough to prevent her escaping.
*Captain Kelly, after having been locked up in the brig for his attempts to assassinate Baltar's lawyers, still holds a deep love for the Galactica and her commander. As he was a part of the original senior leadership (3rd in command as shown after Adama's near-assassination), his nostalgic comments with Tyrol indicated his withering resolve to be part of the coup. In addition, being a witness to the cruelty of Zarek with the Quorum was probably the first catalyst for his repentance.
*Gaeta, prior to his execution, is shown smoking and having drinks with Baltar. This is significant as Gaeta is rarely shown smoking during the show, and when it is shown, it was done when Gaeta finally felt free to be who he wanted to be. The first time was during his taped interview with D'Anna where he "let his hair down" so to speak. Incorporating a final smoke for Gaeta seemed appropriate to allow the audience to see a humanized Gaeta again.
*Gaeta and Baltar have a civil conversation before Gaeta's execution indicating that the two have forgiven each other for thier past transgressions: Gaeta trying to kill Baltar and Baltar's involvement with the Cylons on New Caprica.
*Baltar, despite admitting to not really liking his followers, has developed a sense of responsibility towards them as shown when he's speaking with [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]] about them and deciding to go back. This is the first time that Baltar has been shown to truly care about something besides himself indicating he may have changed somewhat.
*Dialogue in this episode indicates there are 35 civilian ships left in the fleet. This is the first time since abandoning [[New Caprica]] that significant information on the number of ships left in the fleet has emerged. This number doesn't seem to tally with the observed losses in the fleet since the first season, although the number of ships has been portrayed inconsistently throughout the miniseries and the main seasons (a figure in the mid 70s being mentioned in [[Home, Part I]]). The figure of 35 stated here- indicating a loss of half the fleet's ships- seems somewhat inconsistent with a the human population that has only declined by about one fifth since the arrival of Pegasus's crew which bolstered the number of survivors to close to 50,000. Ships being abandoned on New Caprica or afterwards may explain this strikingly low number unless it is a continuity error. If 35 is a correct figure, the other ships in the fleet must have somehow found a way to take a huge number of extra people aboard.
*Ronald D Moore has commented that ''Galactica'' is severely undermanned at this point and therefore large parts of the ship are empty, making it easier for mutineers and counter-mutineers to move around unobserved. This however is contracted by the fact that ''Galactica'' now has the crew of ''Pegasus'' aboard and the ship has in fact been seen to be overcrowded. Even allowing for losses on New Caprica and the fact that ''Pegasus'' was undermanned, the ship should still have a larger crew compliment than when she began her journey. In orbit around New Caprica the two ships still had over 2000 personnel still serving and doubtless most if not all former crew re-enlisted after the evacuation of New Caprica. Galactica's combined crew have not been seen to have taken any substantial losses since leaving New Caprica that would leave much of the ship empty. This may be a retcon or continuity error. It should be noted, however, that a large proportion of the people on the ship following the escape from New Caprica were civilians who may have since been relocated. Furthermore, it may be that only certain areas of the ship - such as the living quarters - are overcrowded. The exact number of personnel that a fully manned ''Galactica'' should have is unknown.
*Despite [[Sharon Agathon]]'s vision-induced paranoia of a Six taking her daughter, [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]<ref>Sharon kills [[Natalie]] in "[[Sine Qua Non]]" when she sees the latter with Hera in a corridor after Sharon, President Roslin, and Caprica-Six all have a vision of a Six absconding with Hera at the opera house.</ref>, she does not protest [[Caprica-Six]] carrying Hera while Sharon supports her injured husband, [[Karl Agathon|Karl]]. It must be remembered that it was Caprica Six who aided in the escape of Athena with Hera from the Baseship after she got Helo to kill her so she would resurrect on the Baseship and recover their daughter. Caprica Six killed [[Sharon Valerii]] ("Boomer", who later resurrected) after Valerii tried to kill Hera for rejecting her and then Caprica Six helped get both Athena and Hera off the Baseship. Ironically, Caprica Six is the only character who has been seen specifically committing infanticide (not counting Baltar's dream about Adama drowning Hera).<ref>Caprica-Six snaps a human infant's neck in her first scene in the [[Miniseries]].</ref>
*Assuming the writers maintained their preference to mirror real-world military traditions, the firing squad assembled to execute Gaeta and Zarek would likely be composed of low-level mutineers who were treated with leniency and then required to seal their loyalty (and feelings of guilt) by executing their former conspirators.
*It isn't clear whether Gaeta and Zarek were given any sort of trial before being executed. Given Adama and Roslin's preference (albeit sometimes waveringly so) for maintaining the rule of law, it would be surprising if the lead mutineers were just shot out of hand.
* During Tyrol and Kelly's discussion in the arms locker, Kelly mentions that he could have told Tyrol that Cally was trouble, Tyrol's response "Thanks, it wouldn't have mattered", indicates that, even if he had known that Cally had been sleeping with Hot Dog, he would still have married her. This clearly indicates that Tyrol loved her, and the way in which he says it clearly indicates that he still does. This means that Tyrol's tirade against the Admiral after his wife's death was an act, possibly out of grief, possibly to get himself dismissed from the Deck Crew so he couldn't sabotage anything should he have any hidden programming.
* The Cylons among the fleet are, collectively, more loyal to Roslin and Adama (and more willing to forgive past conflicts) than are the humans.

== Questions ==
* What will become of the other mutineers (Racetrack, Narcho, Seelix, etc)? Will Adama follow through with his promise of "no forgiveness"?
* Will Kelly be allowed to resume his duties on Galactica?
* Who will take over Gaeta's duties?
* What repercussions will the Quorum's assassination have on the Fleet?
* What is the significance of the damage Tyrol discovers in the engine room? Has it been there long, or is it a result of the improper shut down of the FTL drive? Do other areas of the ship show similar signs of damage? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
* Is the same structural deficiency present near the other FTL drive?
* In the [[Miniseries]], Colonel Tigh tells Lt. Gaeta to "spin up FTL drives 1 and 2". Why did Tyrol's deactivation of one FTL drive stop Gaeta from ordering the other's use? Is the other FTL drive still functional?
** Answer: The ship needs both FTL drives to make a proper jump, and Tyrol pulled the "sync coil" between the two. (See: [[No Exit]])
* Will Anders survive his injuries? Were Starbuck and Lampkin even successful in getting him to sickbay?
* Will the rebel Cylons become less trusting of the humans as a result of this mutiny? Or will they be more inclined to trust certain humans, such as Roslin, since she managed to convince them to stay and follow her leadership?
* What was that device Roslin and Leoben were using to communicate with the rest of the Fleet?
* Why was Lee Adama - as opposed to Roslin - present at Zarek and Gaeta's execution?
* What will be done to the 25 ships who did not obey Roslin's order to power down their FTL drives?
* Will the FTL upgrades proceed once order has been brought back completely?
* Will there be a faction that will attempt to portray Zarek or Gaeta as martyrs?
* Will Helo survive his injuries?
* How will Baltar's new-found sense of responsibility toward his flock change his behavior?
* Will the Cylons' assistance of, and subordination to, President Roslin (and/or Colonial political leaders' fears of being associated with the failed coup d'état) secure them the citizenship and Quorum representation they seek?
* Do the Articles of Colonization include pre-approval language for the joining of the fabled "13th Tribe", now known to be Cylons? Such is often the case of comparable federation constitutions; the United States' former [[wikipedia:Articles of Confederation|Articles of Confederation]] induded such language with respect to "Canada" (meaning Ontario) and Bermuda.
* With Zarek dead and Lee Adama being the only surviving member of the Quorum (or one of the few surviving members, considering that two regular delegates were replaced by stand-ins), will he become the new Vice President?
* Are ''Galactica'''s computers now networked?
* With most of the Quorum dead, will Roslin and Adama use the attempted mutiny as a basis to declare martial law?

== Character Development ==
*''In the [[Miniseries]] (in the teaser) the first time we see Lt. Felix Gaeta and then-Commander Adama, Gaeta was handing him routine reports-and also unknown to them the first indications of trouble-while he was practicing his public address on the occasion of ''Galactica'''s-and his-retirement. It is of note considering what we now know of what the unimaginable future had for them:''

:'''Gaeta''': Morning, sir. (hands him messages) Com traffic from the midwatch.

:'''Adama:''' Morning. (re: messages) Anything interesting?

:'''Gaeta:''' Mostly housekeeping. Oh, there is one odd message we were copied on. (shows him the message) The one from Fleet headquarters. Courier officer's overdue coming back from Armistice station.

:'''Adama:''' Hm.

:'''Gaeta:''' They're asking for a status report on all FTL capable ships in case they need someone to jump out there tomorrow and see if his ship's had a mechanical problem.

:'''Adama:''' I think we're a little busy tomorrow, Mr. Gaeta. What do you think?

:'''Gaeta:''' (grins) Yes, sir. And may I also take this opportunity to say it's been both a pleasure and an honor to serve under you these past three years.

:'''Adama:''' Thank you, Mister Gaeta. The honor's been mine.

*It's also interesting to note that the first time Roslin meets a Number Two, he is trying to sabotage the fleet and she has him executed ([[Flesh and Bone]]); in this episode she and a Number Two are seen cooperating and sharing a friendly moment.
== Official Statements ==
*[http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-gaeta-blood-scales-angeli.html Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune interviews Michael Angeli about the episode:], The Six who sleeps with Baltar on the baseship is named [[Number Six#Lida|Lida]].

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*'''''Tom Zarek''' delivers his ultimatum to '''Laura Roslin''''':
:'''Zarek''': This is Tom Zarek, President of the Twelve Colonies. It's over, Laura. Saul Tigh was killed attempting to escape. Bill Adama was tried and found guilty of his crimes. A firing squad executed him this morning. It's done, Laura. You want to think about the people of this fleet now, and surrender.
:'''Roslin''': No. Not now. Not ever. Do you hear me? I will use every cannon, every bomb, every bullet, every weapon I have down to my own eyeteeth to end you. I swear it!''' ''I'm coming for all of you!'''''
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is disturbed by the sight of the slaughtered Quorum delegates:
:'''Gaeta''': We--we had the truth on our side. Now . . . now . . .
:'''Zarek''': The truth is told by whoever is left standing.
*'''''Lee Adama''' has just thrown a grenade towards the marines guarding the Cylon Prisoners, allowing him and '''Kara Thrace''' to kill them, after which Kara takes cover and Lee looks at her both amused and pleased with himself:
:'''Lee Adama''': ''walking forward and picking up the Grenade'' I never pulled the pin.
:'''Kara Thrace''': Ok, that is not funny.
:'''Lee Adama''': It would have been if you had thought of it.
:'''Kara Thrace''': No, still not funny.
*'''''Laura Roslin''''' broadcasting to the fleet:
:'''Roslin''': This is President Laura Roslin speaking from the Cylon baseship. Felix Gaeta has seized ''Galactica'' by force. The Cylons were defending themselves. They will not harm you. I repeat, the Cylons will not harm you. I am asking all ships' captains not to jump. Do not jump! Shut down your FTL drives!
*'''''Felix Gaeta''' is about to be executed for his crimes:
:'''Gaeta''': (referring to the pain from his lost leg) It stopped.

== Guest Stars ==
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]
* [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
* [[Sebastian Spence]] as Lieutenant [[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Costanza]]
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
* [[Jennifer Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix|Diana "Hardball" Seelix]]
* [[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]
* [[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]]
* [[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]]
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Sergeant [[Allan Nowart]]
* [[Alexandra Thomas]] as [[Hera Agathon]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]] / [[Leoben Conoy]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Andrew McIlroy]] as [[Jacob Cantrell]]
* [[Marilyn Norry]] as [[Reza Chronides]]
* [[Judith Maxie]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Picon Delegate|Picon Delegate]]
* [[Iris Paluly]] as Speaking Delegate [[Dahlia]]
* [[Veena Sood]] as [[Unnamed civilians in the Fleet (RDM)#Quorum Delegate|Quorum Delegate]]
* [[Adrian Holmes]] as Marine [[Parr]]

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List of Podcasts

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The following is a list of [[podcast|podcasts]] done by [[Ronald D. Moore]] that are available from the [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar Sci-Fi Channel Website] and now also on the [http://www.skyone.co.uk/battlestar Sky One Website].

The podcasts are available in MP3 format. Below are links to the full commentary.

Should you want to divide the commentary by acts (teaser, act one, et al), go to the official podcast website. (see [[#Related Links]])

Links lead to the SCIFI.COM server; they are not hosted on this Wiki's server.

== Season One ==

*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/109/bsg_ep109_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down"] ([[Podcast:Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/110/bsg_ep110_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Hand of God"] ([[Podcast:The Hand of God|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/111/bsg_ep111_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Colonial Day"] ([[Podcast:Colonial Day|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/112/bsg_ep112_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/113/bsg_ep113_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II|Transcript]])

== Season Two ==

*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/201/bsg_ep201_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Scattered"] ([[Podcast:Scattered|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/202/bsg_ep202_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Valley of Darkness"] ([[Podcast:Valley of Darkness|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/204/bsg_ep204_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Resistance"] ([[Podcast:Resistance|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/205/bsg_ep205_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Farm"] ([[Podcast:The Farm|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Home, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Home, Part I|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Eick]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/207/bsg_ep207_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Home, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Home, Part II|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Eick]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/208/bsg_ep208_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Final Cut"] ([[Podcast:Final Cut|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/209/bsg_ep209_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Flight of the Phoenix"] ([[Podcast:Flight of the Phoenix|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/210/bsg_ep210_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Pegasus"] ([[Podcast:Pegasus|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/211/bsg_ep211_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Resurrection Ship, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Resurrection Ship, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/212/bsg_ep212_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Resurrection Ship, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Resurrection Ship, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/213/bsg_ep213_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Epiphanies"] ([[Podcast:Epiphanies|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/214/bsg_ep214_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Black Market"] ([[Podcast:Black Market|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/215/bsg_ep215_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Scar"] ([[Podcast:Scar|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Weddle]] and [[Bradley Thompson]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/216/bsg_ep216_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Sacrifice"] ([[Podcast:Sacrifice|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/217/bsg_ep217_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Captain's Hand"] ([[Podcast:The Captain's Hand|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/218/bsg_ep218_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Downloaded"] ([[Podcast:Downloaded|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/219/bsg_ep219_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/220/bsg_ep220_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Eick]])

== Season Three ==

*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/301-302/bsg_ep301_302_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Occupation" and "Precipice"] ([[Podcast:Occupation|Occupation Transcript]], [[Podcast:Precipice|Precipice Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/303/bsg_ep303_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Exodus, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Exodus, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/304/bsg_ep304_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Exodus, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Exodus, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/305/bsg_ep305_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Collaborators"] ([[Podcast:Collaborators|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/306/bsg_ep306_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Torn"] ([[Podcast:Torn|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/307/bsg_ep307_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "A Measure of Salvation"] ([[Podcast:A Measure of Salvation|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/308/bsg_ep308_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Hero"] ([[Podcast:Hero|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/309/bsg_ep309_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Unfinished Business"] ([[Podcast:Unfinished Business|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[Grace Park]] and [[Tahmoh Penikett]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/310/bsg_ep310_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Passage"] ([[Podcast:The Passage|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/311/bsg_ep311_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Eye of Jupiter"] ([[Podcast:The Eye of Jupiter|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/312/bsg_ep312_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Rapture"] ([[Podcast:Rapture|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/313/bsg_ep313_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Taking a Break From All Your Worries"] ([[Podcast:Taking a Break From All Your Worries|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/314/bsg_ep314_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Woman King"] ([[Podcast:The Woman King|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/315/bsg_ep315_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "A Day in the Life"] ([[Podcast:A Day in the Life|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/bonus_edit_session/edit_pod_FULL.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "A Day in the Life"] ([[Podcast:A Day in the Life Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Jaques Gravett]] and [[Michael O'Halloran]]
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/316/bsg_ep316_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Dirty Hands"] ([[Podcast:Dirty Hands|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/317/bsg_ep317_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Maelstrom"] ([[Podcast:Maelstrom|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/318/bsg_ep318_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Son Also Rises"] ([[Podcast:The Son Also Rises|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/mark_1/bonus_ep_318_pod_mark_sheppard.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "The Son Also Rises"] ([[Podcast:The Son Also Rises Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Mark Sheppard]] ([[Romo Lampkin]]) and [[Michael Angeli]]
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/319/bsg_ep319_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Crossroads, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/mark_2/bonus_ep_319_pod_mark_sheppard.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "Crossroads, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Mark Sheppard]] ([[Romo Lampkin]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/320/bsg_ep20_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Crossroads, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/mark_3/bonus_ep_320_pod_mark_sheppard.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "Crossroads, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Mark Sheppard]] ([[Romo Lampkin]])

== Season Four ==
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/403/bsg_ep403_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "He That Believeth In Me"] ([[Podcast:He That Believeth In Me|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/404/bsg_ep404_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Six of One"] ([[Podcast:Six of One|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/405/bsg_ep405_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Ties That Bind"] ([[Podcast:The Ties That Bind|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/406/bsg_ep406_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Escape Velocity"] ([[Podcast:Escape Velocity|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/407/bsg_ep407_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Road Less Traveled"] ([[Podcast:The Road Less Traveled|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/408/bsg_ep408_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Faith"] ([[Podcast:Faith|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/411/bsg_ep411_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Hub"] ([[Podcast:The Hub|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/412/bsg_ep412_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Revelations"] ([[Podcast:Revelations|Transcript]])

*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/413/bsg_ep413_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Sometimes A Great Notion"] ([[Podcast:Sometimes A Great Notion|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/414/bsg_ep414_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "A Disquiet Follows My Soul"] ([[Podcast:A Disquiet Follows My Soul|Transcript]])

== Other ==
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/writers_meeting/bsg_writersmeeting_pt1.mp3 Writers' Meeting Part 1] ([[Podcast:Writers Meeting, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/writers_meeting/bsg_writersmeeting_pt2.mp3 Writers' Meeting Part 2] ([[Podcast:Writers Meeting, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/writers_meeting/bsg_writersmeeting_pt3.mp3 Writers' Meeting Part 3] ([[Podcast:Writers Meeting, Part III|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/roundtable/roundtable.mp3 The Battlestar Roundtable] ([[Podcast:The Battlestar Roundtable|Transcript]] - Approximately 3 hours)
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/frak_party/frak_party_podcast.mp3 Frak Party Q&A] ([[Podcast:Frak Party Q and A|Transcript]])

== Notes ==

* In a majority of his podcasts, Ron Moore signs off with the [[w:Edward R. Murrow|Edward R. Murrow]] quote: "good night, and good luck".

== Related Links ==

* [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast.php Battlestar Galactica Podcast Audio Commentary]
* [[Battlestar Wiki:Podcast Transcripts|Podcast Transcripts]]
* [[Podcast smokes and drinks]], lists the types of alcohol and cigarettes consumed by Ron Moore during the podcast sessions

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Talk:Sometimes a Great Notion/Archive 1

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== Half-Season ==

Are we sure that Sometimes a Great Notion will be aired before the midseason break? I've seen the first half-season referred to as consisting of ten episodes. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
: It's not on the SFC schedule, so I've removed it. Someone must've been overzealous in their addition of the airdates. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Writers ==

In the podcast for Revelations, RDM states that David Weddle and Bradley Thompson will be writing this episode. I though I should bring it up here rather than add it to the article as I'm a relatively new member here, and am still unfamiliar with the editing process.[[User:Pentagonal Deception|Pentagonal Deception]] 23:51, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
: That's all right, Pentagonal. Feel free to [[BW:BOLD|be bold]] take it upon yourself to add it, as long as it's [[BW:CJ|cited]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 04:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the encouragement, but it wasn't so much that I was apprehensive to edit the page, but more that i'm not quite sure how. I really haven't taken the time to learn how to use the editing software, (which is something I'm planning on doing shortly) so i thought it best to bring it up here and have someone willing and able add it.[[User:Pentagonal Deception|Pentagonal Deception]] 19:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I added it. You can see the difference [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Sometimes_a_Great_Notion&diff=165728&oldid=164802 here]. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Many thanks.[[User:Pentagonal Deception|Pentagonal Deception]] 19:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Episode Title ==

''The title of the episode comes from the blues song "Goodnight, Irene," in which the singer contemplates suicide: "Sometimes I get a great notion / to jump in the river and drown."'' Is this a fact? There's no citation. It's also the title of a song by John Mellencamp. [[User:Genji2000|Genji2000]] 17:58, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:And, though I don't know if it has to do with anything, the first line of the Mellencamp song, "Never give an inch," is a reference to ''Sometimes a Great Notion'', a novel by Ken Kesey. [[User:Capedia|Capedia]] 07:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::The episode title is a reference to Ken Kesey's novel -- [[User:Hufnmouth|Hufnmouth]] 22:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Buried Centurion Head ==

Was it just me, or did that uncovered centurion head found in the anthropological dig look like the centurion pictured here:http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:DeSanto_Singer_Project_Cylon.jpg ? -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 08:14, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:Nope, that wasn't the head:Flatter face and no forehead ridge. -- [[User:Hufnmouth|Hufnmouth]] 22:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::It wasn't identical, but was still pretty similar. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 21:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==Guest stars==

As an avid credit watcher I thought I'd point out that as of the very beginning of season 4 Michael Hogan, Aaron Douglas, Tahmoh Penikett, Michael Trucco, Alessandro Juliani and Kandyse McClure have all been credited as starring cast members. I've removed them from the guest star section for this episode accordingly.--[[User:Opark 77|Opark 77]] 11:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:Just need a second verification and we should edit [[Season 4 (2008)]] as well. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 13:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::Uh, if you're an avid credit watcher, as you say, then you should know that those name (give or takes a few) have been like that since "33". And it's not just this show that has this sort of thing. Nor, is it a recent trend; I can date the post star/pre-guest star credit thing back to a show from 1989 and few since. That's always been a thorn in trying to figure that out. I will say that if they're stars, then they're names wouldn't come and go based on an episode-by-episode basis like that seeing as how all the ones in the main credits remain regardless (with the exception of Katee's, but that was only to sell the whole "Kara is dead" thing). Until someone can convince me otherwise, I say they're co-stars, who just get upfront credits for some sort of contractual reason. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 17:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::As I understand it, '''Mars''', it's really nothing more than a monetary issue. The main cast, whose names are credited every week during the main opening credits sequence, are paid regardless of whether or not they actually shoot any scenes for the episode. A recurring or supporting character would not be credited if they weren't used in a particular episode, so they wouldn't have to be paid, but they would be credited before guest characters. A good example of this outside of BSG would be Teryl Rothery ("Dr. Fraiser") on Stargate SG-1. --[[User:Antarctic Fox|Antarctic Fox]] 17:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Resurrection and the split of the 13th Tribe ==

The dialogue in this episode about the "Final Five"'s previous lives on Earth reminded me of what Virtual said to Baltar n [[Fragged]], about how anyone who was killed on Kobol was dead forever. At the time, it seemed like a throwaway bit of Virtual Six's usual religious zealotry, but after Ellen Tigh's remark in Tigh's vision/flashback about everything being "in place" for their rebirth after the holocaust, I'm no longer so sure.

So, here's a bit of speculation. We know from the advance buzz on ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' that the origins of the Colonies' Cylons had to do with [[Daniel Graystone]]'s efforts to resurrect his daughter in an artificial body -- something that presumably would become a very, very controversial idea if applied on a large scale. Maybe that kind of controversy had something to do with the original departure of the Thirteenth Tribe from Kobol. Perhaps their resurrection system was outlawed on Kobol, leading to their exodus. The existence of the ancient probe in [[Torn]] supports the idea that resurrection technology may well have existed thousands of years ago; that episode really made the virus seem like a biological weapon, and the fact that it infected Cylons through the resurrection process may not have been accidental. Was it created to prevent the Thirteenth Tribe from ''leaving'' Earth to return to Kobol? (In that case, maybe what Ellen meant when she said "Everything is in place" was that some of the Thirteenth Tribe had figured out a way to circumvent the various defenses/mechanisms preventing them from rejoining the Twelve. {{unsigned|Argentla}}
:Hi Argentia. More people will hear about your thoughts in a place better built for it, so why not take your thoughts to [http://www.battlestarforum.com/showthread.php?t=2307 the Battlestar Forum episode thread?] (That way, the talk page is left free for questions about the formatting or proper interpretation of what should be in this article itself.) Lots of people are there to talk about it! --22:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==Ron Moore's Commentary==
Ron's commentary accompanying SAGN is up on Hulu. He reveals a lot of the driving forces of the story - both in the mythology and in real-life. He also adds some commentary on the episodes framing which adds to the ugliness of the episode. Lastly, it appears Ron is partaking of some interesting "stuff" during the commentary. -- [[User:Hufnmouth|Hufnmouth]] 22:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Writer's Strike Ending ==

The little factoid that this episode could have served as series finale does not seem to be accurate, based on several other interviews with the cast and crew. Everyone else has referred to the midseason cliffhanger (Revelations) as being the last episode shot before the break, and the one that would make ''considerably'' more sense as a finale than this one. Can we correct what appears to be a numbering miscalculation? One such source: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tvguide/396369_tvgif16.html. --[[User:Dharadvani|Dharadvani]] 00:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:That does appear to be just a numbering SNAFU, as I too understood that Revelations was the last episode shot and it does make a lot more sense. I'd say swap it and source it. If there's disagreement, we can have a "source war" in the talk pages, but I'm guessing that the newsfeed referenced on the page is the only one pointing to this as the finale, and it's not even really a direct quote. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 00:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

:: RDM also mentioned in the podcast and the article referenced at [8] that this was the last episode shot before the strike. -- [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 19:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Location of Tigh's Flashback ==

i dont think that this is an apartment building as it is stated in the article. im pretty sure it is a bank and that they are safety deposit boxes and not mailboxes. my first reason is that saul looks professional, like he is at a place of work and not at home. second that the sounds make it sound like much more of a public place and with the glass it looks like offices. and third, there is money falling through the air in the scene in front of the safety deposit boxes. [[User:Bubx2700|Bubx2700]] 02:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:I thought it was a safety deposit box as well (which would lend well towards long term storage, if that's applicable. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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== Canada Dates ==

Canada's broadcasts for the last ten episodes of season for resume at the same time that the US does: http://forums.spacecast.com/forums/thread/370361.aspx This means that 4.11 is broadcast 10PM eastern 16 January 2009 on Space: The Imagination Station, can we get the front page updated please?
-- [[User:Xdroop|Xdroop]] 18:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks, Xdroop. Not to slight Canadians, but because of space and format limits as well as the "home port" of Battlestar Wiki (the US), we show the US air times there on the Main Page. On the episode guides, the air date for the UK is also shown, but because we'd be doing that for every nation, we limit it at that. Good that you don't have to wait like the Brits to see BSG (they normally have 1-3 months delay!) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 00:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Blog ==

What happened to the blog? Just a big empty space I can see (monobook). [[User:OTW|OTW]] 01:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:Moved it to the [[Portal:Blogs]]. I can't find this empty space on monobook. Hard refresh. It was casuing slow downs being on the main page. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 01:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The Last Aired Episode and Next Episode are both out of date. Don't know how to change this myself. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 22:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== new movie - news worthy? ==

A new BSG movie seems official (not s4, not caprica), see:
http://community.livejournal.com/aarondouglas/113815.html and http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/08/battlestar-gala.html --[[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 16:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Question: If hardcore Star Trek fans are called "Trekkers" or "Trekkies" and hardcore Star Wars fans are called "Warsies" then are BSG fans "Galacticans?"--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
* "frakers" or "motherfrakers" if you wanna shine em on. --[[User:Tritium|Tritium]] 01:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== navigation pane? ==

just curious, where did the main navigation pane go? (main page, recent changes etc) this is just odd. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 20:15, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

anyone? maybe it's only me (ie: me=noob), but it's a lot harder to navigate the wiki without it... (or just make clicking the the logo take you back to the main page) thanks. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 18:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Episode ==

Why does it still say that the next episode to air is "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]"? Shouldn't it be "[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]"? -- [[User:Space Lizard|Space Lizard]] 14:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:I went ahead and changed it, but it probably should wait and be change after the episode airs in the UK. Thoughts, anyone? -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 17:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

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What happened to the blog? Just a big empty space I can see (monobook). [[User:OTW|OTW]] 01:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:Moved it to the [[Portal:Blogs]]. I can't find this empty space on monobook. Hard refresh. It was casuing slow downs being on the main page. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 01:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The Last Aired Episode and Next Episode are both out of date. Don't know how to change this myself. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 22:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== new movie - news worthy? ==

A new BSG movie seems official (not s4, not caprica), see:
http://community.livejournal.com/aarondouglas/113815.html and http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/08/battlestar-gala.html --[[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 16:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Question: If hardcore Star Trek fans are called "Trekkers" or "Trekkies" and hardcore Star Wars fans are called "Warsies" then are BSG fans "Galacticans?"--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
* "frakers" or "motherfrakers" if you wanna shine em on. --[[User:Tritium|Tritium]] 01:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== navigation pane? ==

just curious, where did the main navigation pane go? (main page, recent changes etc) this is just odd. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 20:15, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Ildiko Ferenczi

2008-11-30T15:12:16Z

Raziel Anarki:

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'''Ildiko Ferenczi''' (born June 3, 1981) is a Canadian actress of Hungarian origin, who portrays "Bikini Girl" in the [[Caprica (pilot)|pilot]] for ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]''.

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Hybrid utterances

2008-07-06T17:54:04Z

Raziel Anarki: paragraph at the wrong(?) position

[[Hybrid]]s, the central computer of a [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]], appear to constantly '''utter incoherent phrases and thoughts''', punctuated by what seem to be computer or system observations, results, or instructions of the basestar's operation.<ref>The behavior of speaking with little pause in an incoherent fashion is a condition known as [[w:Logorrhoea|logorrhoea]], and is generally considered a type of illness in humans. This differs from [[w:glossolalia|glossolalia]]: constant nonsensical speech, and [[w:xenoglossy|xenoglossy]]: speaking in a language not ordinarily known by the speaker. Glossolalia is also known as "speaking in tongues." While the Hybrid speaks the same common language as the humanoid Cylons and Colonials, the content of her speech contacts religious and prophetic messages related to the series storylines as classic glossolalia is claimed to exhibit.</ref> Despite their seemly nonsensical nature, they sometimes seem to relate to the wider world around them, perhaps with a prophetic nature. [[Number Two]]s believe that the Hybrid's words have religious significance.

[[Gaius Baltar]] and [[humanoid Cylon]]s are present when one Hybrid is speaking:

* Two protons expelled at each coupling site creates the mode of force, the embryo becomes a fish that we don't enter until a plate, we're here to experience evolve the little toe, atrophy, don't ask me how I'll be dead in a thousand light years, thank you, thank you. Genesis turns to its source, reduction occurs stepwise though the essence is all one. End of line. FTL system check, diagnostic functions within parameters repeats the harlequin the agony exquisite, the colors run the path of ashes, neuronal network run fifty-two percent of heat exchanger cross-collateralized with hyper-dimensional matrix, upper senses, repair ordered relay to zero zero zero zero. ([[Torn]])
* Mists of dreams drip along the nascent echo and love no more. End of line.
* The five lights of the apocalypse rising struggling towards the light, the sins revealed only to those who enter the temple only to the chosen one. (Staring at Baltar:) The chosen one. The chosen one. The chosen one. The chosen one.
* One degree angle nominal. Seascape portrait of the woman child cavern of the soul. Under pressure-heat ratio ides of evolutions have buried their fears.
* Gestalt therapy and escape clauses.
* Throughout history the nexus between man and machine has spun some of the most dramatic, compelling and entertaining fiction.<ref>This "[[w:Fourth wall|fourth wall]]" dialogue references the drama of man/machine conflicts in science fiction as seen in the ''Battlestar'' series' themselves as well as movies and novels such ''[[w:The Terminator|The Terminator]]'', ''[[w:I, Robot|I, Robot]]'' and ''[[w:The Matrix|The Matrix]]''.</ref>
* (Grasping Baltar) Intelligence. A mind that burns like a fire.
* Find the hand that lies in the shadow of the light. In the eye of the husband of the eye of the cow. ([[The Passage]]) <ref>These two lines are quoted in the music for "[[Rapture]]" as [[Music of Battlestar Galactica (RDM)#Temple of Five theme|theme for the Temple of Five]] and sung in Latin.</ref>

At least one Hybrid has spoken utterances that suggest a knowledge of the 'activation' of the [[Final Five]]:
* The excited state decays by vibrational relaxation into the first excited singlet state. Yes, yes and merrily we go. Reduce atmospheric nitrogen by 0.03%. It is not much consolation that society will pick up the bits, leaving us at eight modern where punishment, rather than interdiction, is paramount. Please, cut the fuse. They will not harm their own. End of line. Limiting diffusions to two dimensions increases the number of evolutionary jumps within the species. Rise and measure [[The Temple of Five|the temple of the five]]. Transformation is the goal. They will not harm their own. [[Data-font]] synchronization complete. ([[Six of One]])

===Rebel Hybrid===
[[Kara Thrace]] travels to the rebel basestar to hear their Hybrid, whom [[Leoben]] believes will guide her on her quest for earth. She finds little sense in its ramblings:
*Then shall the maidens rejoice at the dance.
*They'll start going ripe on us pretty soon.
*Centrifugal force reacts to the rotating frame of reference.
*The obstinate toy soldier becomes pliant.
*The city devours the land, the people devour the city...
*Intruders swarm like flame, like the whirlwind; Hopes soaring to slaughter all their best against our hulls.
*All these things at once and many more, not because it wishes harm, because it likes violent vibrations to change constantly.
*But you are a spark of God's fire.
*The children of the one reborn shall find their own country.
*Compartmentalize integrity conflicts with the obligation to provide access.
*No ceremonies are necessary.
*Contact is inevitable, leading to information bleed.
*Assume the relaxation length of photons in the sample atmosphere is constant.
Just as the Hybrid is being disconnected from its basestar she delivers one final, and unusually coherent, message to Thrace:
*Thus will it come to pass. A dying leader will know the truth of the [[Opera House]]. The missing [[Number Three|Three]] will give you the [[Final Five|Five]] who come from the home of the [[Earth (RDM)|Thirteenth]]. You are the harbinger of death, Kara Thrace. You will lead them all to their end. End of Line. ([[Faith]])
When President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is informed of this message she goes to speak with the Hybrid ([[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]). She has little success talking to the Hybrid and does not get the answers she was expecting:
*Filters, Filters, the sublime elevation of the lifter and the filters
*The wing beat of the dove drown out the heartbeat of those who follow the [[Number Six|sixes]] back in the stream.
*The [[Natalie|Six]] who went among the maker is no longer.
*Back in the stream that feeds the ocean that feeds the stream.
*Such a format will close the door.
*Protect the [[Hera Agathon|child]].
*To remove the pump with the attached hose and wiring simultaneously pull the three tangs while pulling the pump out go the retainer along with the line and wiring. ([[The Hub]])

== First Hybrid ==

The [[first Hybrid]] also says several prophetic phrases, although this Hybrid's behavior displays far more coherence, grammatically. The First Hybrid also shows self-awareness, speaking in complete sentences when addressing [[Kendra Shaw]] ([[Razor]]).

*At last, they’ve come for me. I feel their lives, their destinies spilling out before me. The denial of the one true path, played out on a world not their own, will end soon enough. Soon there will be [[Final Five|four, glorious in awakening]], struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity and in the midst of confusion, he will find her. Enemies brought together by impossible longing. Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. I can see them all. [[Humanoid Cylon#Significant Seven|The seven]], [[Number Three|now]] [[Boxing|six]]<ref>At the time of this utterance, [[Number Three]] has not yet been [[Boxing|boxed]]</ref>, self-described machines who believe themselves without sin. But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of one splintering into many. And then, they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning.
*[[Kara Thrace]] will lead the human race to its end. She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death. They must not follow her.
*As my own existence comes to a close, only to begin anew, in ways uncertain.
*All this has happened before, and it will happen again...again...again...again...again...again...again...

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List of Podcasts

2008-07-06T14:42:44Z

Raziel Anarki: fixes some links for season 4 podcasts 407 and up

{{official bsg staff posting}}

The following is a list of [[podcast|podcasts]] done by [[Ronald D. Moore]] that are available from the [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar Sci-Fi Channel Website] and now also on the [http://www.skyone.co.uk/battlestar Sky One Website].

The podcasts are available in MP3 format. Below are links to the full commentary.

Should you want to divide the commentary by acts (teaser, act one, et al), go to the official podcast website. (see [[#Related Links]])

Links lead to the SCIFI.COM server; they are not hosted on this Wiki's server.

== Season One ==

*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/109/bsg_ep109_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down"] ([[Podcast:Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/110/bsg_ep110_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Hand of God"] ([[Podcast:The Hand of God|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/111/bsg_ep111_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Colonial Day"] ([[Podcast:Colonial Day|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/112/bsg_ep112_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/113/bsg_ep113_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II|Transcript]])

== Season Two ==

*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/201/bsg_ep201_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Scattered"] ([[Podcast:Scattered|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/202/bsg_ep202_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Valley of Darkness"] ([[Podcast:Valley of Darkness|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/204/bsg_ep204_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Resistance"] ([[Podcast:Resistance|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/205/bsg_ep205_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Farm"] ([[Podcast:The Farm|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Home, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Home, Part I|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Eick]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/207/bsg_ep207_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Home, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Home, Part II|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Eick]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/208/bsg_ep208_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Final Cut"] ([[Podcast:Final Cut|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/209/bsg_ep209_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Flight of the Phoenix"] ([[Podcast:Flight of the Phoenix|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/210/bsg_ep210_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Pegasus"] ([[Podcast:Pegasus|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/211/bsg_ep211_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Resurrection Ship, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Resurrection Ship, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/212/bsg_ep212_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Resurrection Ship, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Resurrection Ship, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/213/bsg_ep213_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Epiphanies"] ([[Podcast:Epiphanies|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/214/bsg_ep214_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Black Market"] ([[Podcast:Black Market|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/215/bsg_ep215_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Scar"] ([[Podcast:Scar|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Weddle]] and [[Bradley Thompson]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/216/bsg_ep216_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Sacrifice"] ([[Podcast:Sacrifice|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/217/bsg_ep217_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Captain's Hand"] ([[Podcast:The Captain's Hand|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/218/bsg_ep218_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Downloaded"] ([[Podcast:Downloaded|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/219/bsg_ep219_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/220/bsg_ep220_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[David Eick]])

== Season Three ==

*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/301-302/bsg_ep301_302_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Occupation" and "Precipice"] ([[Podcast:Occupation|Occupation Transcript]], [[Podcast:Precipice|Precipice Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/303/bsg_ep303_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Exodus, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Exodus, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/304/bsg_ep304_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Exodus, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Exodus, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/305/bsg_ep305_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Collaborators"] ([[Podcast:Collaborators|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/306/bsg_ep306_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Torn"] ([[Podcast:Torn|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/307/bsg_ep307_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "A Measure of Salvation"] ([[Podcast:A Measure of Salvation|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/308/bsg_ep308_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Hero"] ([[Podcast:Hero|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/309/bsg_ep309_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Unfinished Business"] ([[Podcast:Unfinished Business|Transcript]] - Additional commentary by [[Grace Park]] and [[Tahmoh Penikett]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/310/bsg_ep310_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Passage"] ([[Podcast:The Passage|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/311/bsg_ep311_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Eye of Jupiter"] ([[Podcast:The Eye of Jupiter|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/312/bsg_ep312_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Rapture"] ([[Podcast:Rapture|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/313/bsg_ep313_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Taking a Break From All Your Worries"] ([[Podcast:Taking a Break From All Your Worries|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/314/bsg_ep314_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Woman King"] ([[Podcast:The Woman King|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/315/bsg_ep315_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "A Day in the Life"] ([[Podcast:A Day in the Life|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/bonus_edit_session/edit_pod_FULL.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "A Day in the Life"] ([[Podcast:A Day in the Life Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Jaques Gravett]] and [[Michael O'Halloran]]
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/316/bsg_ep316_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Dirty Hands"] ([[Podcast:Dirty Hands|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/317/bsg_ep317_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Maelstrom"] ([[Podcast:Maelstrom|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/318/bsg_ep318_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Son Also Rises"] ([[Podcast:The Son Also Rises|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/mark_1/bonus_ep_318_pod_mark_sheppard.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "The Son Also Rises"] ([[Podcast:The Son Also Rises Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Mark Sheppard]] ([[Romo Lampkin]]) and [[Michael Angeli]]
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/319/bsg_ep319_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Crossroads, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/mark_2/bonus_ep_319_pod_mark_sheppard.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "Crossroads, Part I"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part I Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Mark Sheppard]] ([[Romo Lampkin]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/320/bsg_ep20_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Crossroads, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/mark_3/bonus_ep_320_pod_mark_sheppard.mp3 Bonus Commentary for "Crossroads, Part II"] ([[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II Bonus|Transcript]]) - by [[Mark Sheppard]] ([[Romo Lampkin]])

== Season Four ==
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/403/bsg_ep403_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "He That Believeth In Me"] ([[Podcast:He That Believeth In Me|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/404/bsg_ep404_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Six of One"] ([[Podcast:Six of One|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/405/bsg_ep405_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Ties That Bind"] ([[Podcast:The Ties That Bind|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/406/bsg_ep406_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Escape Velocity"] ([[Podcast:Escape Velocity|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/407/bsg_ep407_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Road Less Traveled"] ([[Podcast:The Road Less Traveled|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/408/bsg_ep408_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Faith"] ([[Podcast:Faith|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/411/bsg_ep411_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "The Hub"] ([[Podcast:The Hub|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/412/bsg_ep412_FULL.mp3 Commentary for "Revelations"] ([[Podcast:Revelations|Transcript]])

== Other ==
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/writers_meeting/bsg_writersmeeting_pt1.mp3 Writers' Meeting Part 1] ([[Podcast:Writers Meeting, Part I|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/writers_meeting/bsg_writersmeeting_pt2.mp3 Writers' Meeting Part 2] ([[Podcast:Writers Meeting, Part II|Transcript]])
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/writers_meeting/bsg_writersmeeting_pt3.mp3 Writers' Meeting Part 3] ([[Podcast:Writers Meeting, Part III|Transcript]])
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/roundtable/roundtable.mp3 The Battlestar Roundtable] ([[Podcast:The Battlestar Roundtable|Transcript]] - Approximately 3 hours)
*[http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/frak_party/frak_party_podcast.mp3 Frak Party Q&A] ([[Podcast:Frak Party Q and A|Transcript]])

== Notes ==

* In a majority of his podcasts, Ron Moore signs off with the [[w:Edward R. Murrow|Edward R. Murrow]] quote: "good night, and good luck".

== Related Links ==

* [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast.php Battlestar Galactica Podcast Audio Commentary]
* [[Battlestar Wiki:Podcast Transcripts|Podcast Transcripts]]
* [[Podcast smokes and drinks]], lists the types of alcohol and cigarettes consumed by Ron Moore during the podcast sessions

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Talk:Camp Oil Slick/Archive 1

2008-06-28T14:44:31Z

Raziel Anarki: /* Possible reference? */ new section

==Camp Oil Slick vs. Dogsville==
My understanding is that Camp Oil Slick was established for civillian refugees after the exodus from New Caprica, and only existed until they could be relocated to their original ships. Dogsville was established months later, after the events of "The Passage", to house the displaced persons from the Adriatic and the Carina. Is this correct? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:01, 28 February 2007 (CST)
:Basically yes. It's never established that it's related to "The Passage" but likey. However they're just different names for the same thing: refugee camps. Even if the refugees are different. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:09, 28 February 2007 (CST)

== Move ==

I requested that this page be moved to [[Dogsville]]. "Camp Oil Slick" was used in only one episode that I'm aware of, "Dogsville" has been used much more in many more episodes. If the characters call it "Dogsville", that's what we should call it (most articles refer to "Dogsville" already). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 14:25, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:Dogsville already redirects here and in the first line both names are mentioned. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:48, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
::Right. Removed move box. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:34, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

== Possible reference? ==

The name "dogsville" could be a reference to the film "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0276919/ Dogville]", which uses a very minimal set, consisting of lines drawn on a stage floor for example designating the walls of a house. Living space is similarly divided without real walls in Galactica's Dogsville.
If it's not something imposed on me by my limited (learnt) knowlegde of the english language, i think this should be noted. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 14:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:The Hub/Archive 1

2008-06-10T15:25:16Z

Raziel Anarki:

{{newsection link}}

==Picture==

Where is it from? Are there more? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:http://www.bsg.cz/4-09-hub-promofotky-3 -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 20:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks! I wonder why there are none for Sine Qua Non so far. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::: Can anyone identify the gun Cavil is holding there? [[User:OTW|OTW]] 14:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: Looks like a Walther PPK actually...the shape of it is a dead giveaway. -- [[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 09:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Maybe we should change the picture; unless I missed it (which seems unlikely, as I pay extra attention when Cavil's on screen), that scene didn't make the final cut of the episode. Something from the episode would be nice: the Hub, D'Anna, maybe even Elosha. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Read my mind. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

==The The==
The SciFi website omits the preceeding "The" from the episode title. Just bringing it up because I'm of a lower class with no ability to move pages and the such. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 11:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:"The Hub" was confirmed by Bradley Thompson, so I guess it's the correct title. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::NBC Universal's Media Village says "Hub", too, and they were right with the one-L "Traveled", too. "Hub" would be a painfully dull title, though. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 16:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::How did these two sites report "'''The''' Road Less Traveled"? With our without the "the"? In this case, it's obviously a Biblical quote and the "The" is clearly supposed to be there. And yeah, no one in their right mind would call an episode "Hub". --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 18:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::::''no one in their right mind would call an episode "Hub".'' – Eh... why not? –[[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 03:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
The episode is titled "The Hub"... we knew this months ago, thanks to [[BW:OC|our own source]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

==Teaser==
I'm sure anyone who's seen this knows by now, but just in case... In the teaser from "[[Sine Qua Non]]", D'anna says something like "You didn't know you were one of the final five", then ''(spoiler; highlight)'' {{spoiltext|Laura Roslin is shown.}}
I avoid spoiler blogs & the like, so I don't know: Intentional, or too obvious? –[[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 04:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:That could easily be some clever editing. As we saw in Sine Qua Non, the conversation between Tigh and Adama was much longer before Tigh hit Adama, but the preview made it look like Tigh hits him right after Adama asks him what he was thinking re: C-Six. There are no guarantees that those two share a scene in the episode, but we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]]•[[User talk:Kevin W.|So say we all]] 18:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah. Drawing anything from this is completely ridiculous. Promos are often very misleading. Sometimes deliberately, but often there just isn't the time to convey any real meaning. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:::IMO she's probably talking to Anders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't think Anders is there. I think she's messing with Roslin. We know they share scenes. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 04:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Anders ain't anywhere, it seems... Odd. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Callum Keith Rennie is in the episode ==

He appears right at the beginning, when everyone is still kind of hanging around the hybrid.
: You're right. He doesn't have any lines though. Also, I'm pretty sure that's the same footage from the episode where they first jump away. I guess they couldn't get him for the episode, but he got credit for standing around he'd done already. I don't have the earlier episode on me right now. Can anyone confirm that is the same scene (and not a reshoot), and then we can update the details about CKR's absence. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:: The scenes are from "Guess What's Coming For Dinner?"... there's nothing new there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Rebuilding the hub? ==

> Why do the Cylons have only one Resurrection Hub and the implied inability to build another?
> Are the Cylons capable of building a new Hub, and if so, how long it would it take them?

My personal theory is - they can have more than one, and they can rebuild it, but it takes considerable time and resources, too much to have another one ready before the end of the war.

On the other hand - maybe it is possible to modify / reconfigure Res Ships to not require the Hub to coordinate them?

[[User:Lilianne Blaze|Lilianne Blaze]] 04:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

: Maybe the reason the cylons cannot rebuild it, is because it was built by whoever pogrammed/created the humanoid cylons in the first place, and they just weren't implanted with the knowledge required (similar to the knowledge of the final five). This may be evidenced by the fact that the resurrection facilities share a different design "philosophy" than the rest of the cylon fleet. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 15:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Airlocked? ==

How come this page wasn't kept airlocked until the British release date, but Sine Qua Non was kept airlocked until the American and Canadian release date? I thought the entire point was to keep the page locked down until the episode had been fully released. Doesn't this portray double standards? [[User:Otterstat|Otterstat]] 10:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
: The episode was first released on Friday in America, not on Tuesday. (SciFi told SkyOne to not release the episode early... long story.) The point of locking down the pages is to prevent multiple people from bum-rushing the episode page after it had aired with edits, which degrades the performance of the wiki's server. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 13:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:: Aye I know, and the British release date has been pushed back to Tuesday, so the roles are exactly reversed - what I'm saying is that last week the page was locked until the episode had aired in America, but this week it was unlocked straight after it was aired in America despite not having been aired in Britain yet. I thought another reason it was airlocked until the episode had aired in both areas was: "Locking articles give everyone a chance to watch the episode before a wiki visit could spoil that." I'm just a bit confused as to why it's been un-locked prior to the episode being aired in Britain, is all. Edit: To follow on from this, does this mean it is okay in the future for me to un-airlock a page if it has been aired in Britain first but not America and Canada? Because that's basically what happened here... [[User:Otterstat|Otterstat]] 14:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Let me put it to you this way, just over half of our audience is American. The other half is oversees, with less than a quarter of that half being from the UK. We actually get a lot more traffic from Canada and Germany than we do the UK...

:::Further, we always airlocked the pages for the American airings, because that's when the Wiki is hardest hit... after US airings. Not UK airings. And, actually, "Sine Qua Non" proved that, because the traffic was more evenly distributed between the two air dates for that episode. You can see some of this statistical data for yourself [http://www.quantcast.com/battlestarwiki.org here]. Also, to answer your question, you don't have the permissions needed to lock our unlock pages; that's an ability only the chiefs have. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 22:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== psych! ==

Can we get Three's joke at Laura's expense in the Notable Dialogue section? I can't remember it word by word myself. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 21:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)`

: There we go. What an amazing moment. If there's any problems with how I formatted it, feel free to tweak it. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 23:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Deleted scene or misplaced promo image? ==
I don't remember seeing Cavil holding a gun or wearing a hat, and we have had production number related misunderstandings before. Do we know that this image is from The Hub (episode 9, production number 411) and not [[Sometimes a Great Notion]] (episode 11, production number 413)? -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's not a mistake. This is not the first time that promo images from (later) deleted scenes were released. For example "[[Torn]]" had one or two with Doral, Boomer, Six and Hera in a church, and "[[A Measure of Salvation]]" had a scene with Thrace interrogating Leoben. They are on the DVDs and summarized [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 3 (RDM)|here]]. We should chose a different picture, but the other promo pics for the episode aren't really any good. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I can grab something from the HD version... Any ideas? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe a wide shot of the Cylon and human pilots assembling? -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:The Hub/Archive 1

2008-06-10T15:17:06Z

Raziel Anarki:

{{newsection link}}

==Picture==

Where is it from? Are there more? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:http://www.bsg.cz/4-09-hub-promofotky-3 -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 20:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks! I wonder why there are none for Sine Qua Non so far. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::: Can anyone identify the gun Cavil is holding there? [[User:OTW|OTW]] 14:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: Looks like a Walther PPK actually...the shape of it is a dead giveaway. -- [[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 09:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Maybe we should change the picture; unless I missed it (which seems unlikely, as I pay extra attention when Cavil's on screen), that scene didn't make the final cut of the episode. Something from the episode would be nice: the Hub, D'Anna, maybe even Elosha. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Read my mind. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

==The The==
The SciFi website omits the preceeding "The" from the episode title. Just bringing it up because I'm of a lower class with no ability to move pages and the such. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 11:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:"The Hub" was confirmed by Bradley Thompson, so I guess it's the correct title. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::NBC Universal's Media Village says "Hub", too, and they were right with the one-L "Traveled", too. "Hub" would be a painfully dull title, though. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 16:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::How did these two sites report "'''The''' Road Less Traveled"? With our without the "the"? In this case, it's obviously a Biblical quote and the "The" is clearly supposed to be there. And yeah, no one in their right mind would call an episode "Hub". --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 18:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::::''no one in their right mind would call an episode "Hub".'' – Eh... why not? –[[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 03:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
The episode is titled "The Hub"... we knew this months ago, thanks to [[BW:OC|our own source]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

==Teaser==
I'm sure anyone who's seen this knows by now, but just in case... In the teaser from "[[Sine Qua Non]]", D'anna says something like "You didn't know you were one of the final five", then ''(spoiler; highlight)'' {{spoiltext|Laura Roslin is shown.}}
I avoid spoiler blogs & the like, so I don't know: Intentional, or too obvious? –[[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 04:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:That could easily be some clever editing. As we saw in Sine Qua Non, the conversation between Tigh and Adama was much longer before Tigh hit Adama, but the preview made it look like Tigh hits him right after Adama asks him what he was thinking re: C-Six. There are no guarantees that those two share a scene in the episode, but we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]]•[[User talk:Kevin W.|So say we all]] 18:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah. Drawing anything from this is completely ridiculous. Promos are often very misleading. Sometimes deliberately, but often there just isn't the time to convey any real meaning. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:::IMO she's probably talking to Anders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't think Anders is there. I think she's messing with Roslin. We know they share scenes. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 04:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Anders ain't anywhere, it seems... Odd. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Callum Keith Rennie is in the episode ==

He appears right at the beginning, when everyone is still kind of hanging around the hybrid.
: You're right. He doesn't have any lines though. Also, I'm pretty sure that's the same footage from the episode where they first jump away. I guess they couldn't get him for the episode, but he got credit for standing around he'd done already. I don't have the earlier episode on me right now. Can anyone confirm that is the same scene (and not a reshoot), and then we can update the details about CKR's absence. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:: The scenes are from "Guess What's Coming For Dinner?"... there's nothing new there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 03:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Rebuilding the hub? ==

> Why do the Cylons have only one Resurrection Hub and the implied inability to build another?
> Are the Cylons capable of building a new Hub, and if so, how long it would it take them?

My personal theory is - they can have more than one, and they can rebuild it, but it takes considerable time and resources, too much to have another one ready before the end of the war.

On the other hand - maybe it is possible to modify / reconfigure Res Ships to not require the Hub to coordinate them?

[[User:Lilianne Blaze|Lilianne Blaze]] 04:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

: Maybe the reason the cylons cannot rebuild it, is because it was built by whoever pogrammed/created the humanoid cylons in the first place, and they just weren't implanted with the knowledge required. This may be evidenced by the fact that the resurrection facilities share a different design "philosophy" than the rest of the cylon fleet. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 15:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Airlocked? ==

How come this page wasn't kept airlocked until the British release date, but Sine Qua Non was kept airlocked until the American and Canadian release date? I thought the entire point was to keep the page locked down until the episode had been fully released. Doesn't this portray double standards? [[User:Otterstat|Otterstat]] 10:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
: The episode was first released on Friday in America, not on Tuesday. (SciFi told SkyOne to not release the episode early... long story.) The point of locking down the pages is to prevent multiple people from bum-rushing the episode page after it had aired with edits, which degrades the performance of the wiki's server. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 13:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:: Aye I know, and the British release date has been pushed back to Tuesday, so the roles are exactly reversed - what I'm saying is that last week the page was locked until the episode had aired in America, but this week it was unlocked straight after it was aired in America despite not having been aired in Britain yet. I thought another reason it was airlocked until the episode had aired in both areas was: "Locking articles give everyone a chance to watch the episode before a wiki visit could spoil that." I'm just a bit confused as to why it's been un-locked prior to the episode being aired in Britain, is all. Edit: To follow on from this, does this mean it is okay in the future for me to un-airlock a page if it has been aired in Britain first but not America and Canada? Because that's basically what happened here... [[User:Otterstat|Otterstat]] 14:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Let me put it to you this way, just over half of our audience is American. The other half is oversees, with less than a quarter of that half being from the UK. We actually get a lot more traffic from Canada and Germany than we do the UK...

:::Further, we always airlocked the pages for the American airings, because that's when the Wiki is hardest hit... after US airings. Not UK airings. And, actually, "Sine Qua Non" proved that, because the traffic was more evenly distributed between the two air dates for that episode. You can see some of this statistical data for yourself [http://www.quantcast.com/battlestarwiki.org here]. Also, to answer your question, you don't have the permissions needed to lock our unlock pages; that's an ability only the chiefs have. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 22:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== psych! ==

Can we get Three's joke at Laura's expense in the Notable Dialogue section? I can't remember it word by word myself. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 21:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)`

: There we go. What an amazing moment. If there's any problems with how I formatted it, feel free to tweak it. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 23:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Deleted scene or misplaced promo image? ==
I don't remember seeing Cavil holding a gun or wearing a hat, and we have had production number related misunderstandings before. Do we know that this image is from The Hub (episode 9, production number 411) and not [[Sometimes a Great Notion]] (episode 11, production number 413)? -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's not a mistake. This is not the first time that promo images from (later) deleted scenes were released. For example "[[Torn]]" had one or two with Doral, Boomer, Six and Hera in a church, and "[[A Measure of Salvation]]" had a scene with Thrace interrogating Leoben. They are on the DVDs and summarized [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 3 (RDM)|here]]. We should chose a different picture, but the other promo pics for the episode aren't really any good. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I can grab something from the HD version... Any ideas? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe a wide shot of the Cylon and human pilots assembling? -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The Road Less Traveled

2008-05-04T19:26:11Z

Raziel Anarki: baltar talks to tyrol about his conversion (while visiting him in his quarters)

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| image=4x05 - The Road Less Travelled - Promo 1.jpg
| title= The Road Less Traveled
| season= 4
| episode= 5
| guests=
| forumthread= 1008
| writer=[[Mark Verheiden]]
| story=
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]
| production=407
| rating=
| US airdate=2 May 2008
| UK airdate=
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| oldpoplation=39675
| population=39676
| prev= [[Escape Velocity]]
| next= [[Faith]]
}}

== Overview ==

: ''The prospect of a truce between the [[The Fleet (RDM)|remnants of humanity]] and the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]]s encourages [[Kara Thrace]] to trust an old enemy.''

== Summary ==

=== On ''Galactica'' ===

=== On the ''Demetrius'' ===

== Notes ==
*The title is derived from the poem "The Road Not Taken" by [[w:Robert Frost|Robert Frost]]
::''Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—''
::''I took the one less traveled by,''
::''And that has made all the difference.''
:The common interpretation is that one may be rewarded greatly by choosing a more difficult path than the one used by the crowd. The phrase may also have had a religious meaning for Frost, alluding to [http://www.newadvent.org/bible/mat007.htm Matthew 7,12-14], which mentions a broad gate leading to destruction and a narrow gate leading to salvation. <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://local.google.com/answers/threadview?id=426710|title=Google Answers: Origin of "road less travelled"}}</ref>
* The survivor count increases by one, meaning that at least one child has been born in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]].
* It has been 58 days since the end of "[[Six of One]]", when Kara Thrace is given the command of the ''[[Demetrius]]''.
* Sergeant [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]]'s first name, Erin, is spoken for the first time on screen.
* Neither [[William Adama]] nor [[Laura Roslin]] appear in this episode. In both cases, this is [[Central character absences (RDM)|unprecendented]].

== Analysis ==
*Instead of using his demotion as a wakeup call, Tyrol has slipped further into despair and even contemplates to kill himself. That he has completely shaven his head might also be an indicator of his state of mind.

== Questions ==

* Does Conoy sense that Anders is a fellow Cylon?
* How will the situation on the ''Demetrius'' be resolved?
* Will Galen Tyrol begin to associate with Baltar?
* If yes, will Baltar have a positive influence on Tyrol and help him to overcome his grief or uncertainty about being a Cylon?
* What have Tigh and Caprica-Six been doing recently?
* Why does Baltar's broadcast appear to soothe Nicholas Tyrol?

== Official Statements ==





== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''[[Gaius Baltar]] to about his conversion to [[Galen Tyrol]]:''
:"I know it's hard to...make sense of things sometimes. In my own life, I...in my own life I've joined the fleet as a scientist, as a skeptic, as a...supposedly a man of reason. Only to have fate turn that all on its head. But I understand now that there is a purpose to it. We change. We evolve. Maybe we even learn something along the way. (pauses) I have committed...unconscionable crimes. And I have been offered one last chance at redemption, because I chose to accept my fate and not fight it anymore."

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Aaron Douglas]] as Specialist [[Galen Tyrol]]
* [[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Michael Trucco]] as Ensign [[Samuel Anders]]
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hotdog" Costanza]]
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Captain [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]]
* [[Eileen Pedde]] as Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]]
* [[Jennifer Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix|Diana "Hardball" Seelix]]
* [[Keegan Connor Tracy]] as [[Jeanne]]
* [[Lara Gilchrist]] as [[Paulla Schaffer]]
* [[Leela Savasta]] as [[Tracey Anne]]
* [[Finn R. Devitt]] as [[Nicholas Tyrol]] (credited as "Baby Nicky")
* [[Ryan McDonell]] as Lieutenant [[Eammon Pike|Eammon "Gonzo" Pike]]
* [[Alisen Down]] as [[Jean Barolay]]
* [[Lori Triolo]] as [[Phoebe]]

== External Links ==
*Composer [[Bear McCreary]] on the episode's score: http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=306

== References ==
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{{Episode list (RDM season 4)}}

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