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Taking a Break From All Your Worries

2007-01-06T00:04:11Z

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{{Episode Data
| title= Taking a Break From All Your Worries
| season= 3
| episode= 13
| guests=
| writer= [[Michael Taylor]]
| story=
| director= [[Edward James Olmos]]
| production=
| rating=
| US airdate= 2007-01-??
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population= ?
| prev= [[Rapture]]
| next= [[The Woman King]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''A new prisoner aboard Galactica may be a Cylon. Is he? Even the prisoner isn't so sure. <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/taking-a-break-from-all-your-worries/episode/832175/summary.html|title=Taking a Break From All Your Worries }}</ref>''
== Summary ==

== Questions ==

== Analysis ==

== Notes ==
*This is the second episode of the series to be directed by lead actor [[Edward James Olmos]]. The first was Season 1's "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]".
*With 30 characters, this episode has the longest title of any Re-imagined Series episode to date.
*The title is also a partial quote from "Where Everybody Knows Your Name," the theme song to the television program ''[[Wikipedia:Cheers|Cheers]]'' written by [[Wikipedia:Gary Portnoy|Gary Portnoy]] & Judy Hart Angelo. — "Making your way in the world today takes everything you've got./''Taking a break from all your worries'', sure would help a lot."
*As revealed on the latest podcast by [[David Eick]], part of this episode centers around "Joe's Bar" which the crew created on ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' to provide a place to relax.<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?cat=videoBlog&vid=51390|title=David Eick's Video Blog, 12-20-2006|date=|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref>

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==

<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

{{Episode list (RDM season 3)}}

[[Category:Episodes written by Michael Taylor]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Edward James Olmos]]
[[Category:RDM]]

Commander Air Group

2006-11-27T06:45:57Z

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The '''Commander, Air Group''' (more commonly known as the '''CAG''') is the senior pilot aboard a [[battlestar]] and is responsible for all flight operations. The rank normally held by the CAG is [[Military Ranks (RDM)|Captain]].

==Commander, Air Group battlestar ''Galactica''==
* Major [[Jackson Spencer|Jackson "Ripper" Spencer]] ([[Miniseries]]. Killed in action)
* Captain [[Lee Adama|Lee "Apollo" Adama]] ([[Miniseries]] through "[[The Captain's Hand]]". Promoted to Commanding Officer of ''Pegasus'')
* Captain [[George Birch|George "Catman" Birch]] ("[[Home, Part I]]". Temporary replacement for Lee Adama)
* Captain [[Kara Thrace|Kara "Starbuck" Thrace]] ("[[The Captain's Hand]]" through "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]". Settled on New Caprica)
* Lieutenant [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]] ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]" to "[[Collaborators]]")
* Major [[Lee Adama]] ("[[Torn]]" to present)

==Commander, Air Group battlestar ''Pegasus''==
* Captain [[Cole Taylor|Cole "Stinger" Taylor]] (Relieved by Admiral [[Helena Cain]] in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]")
* Captain Kara "Starbuck" Thrace (Replaced Cole Taylor, but transfered back to ''Galactica'' by "[[Epiphanies]]")
* CAG at the time of destruction unknown

==Notes==
"[[Wikipedia:Commander, Air Group|CAG]]" is a US Navy term that has gained widespread recognition through films such as Top Gun and television series such as JAG. While the term CAG is technically obsolete as Air Groups are now known as Air Wings, and the position has thus been renamed to "Commander, Air Wing" (CAW) it is nevertheless still used, especially on an informal level.

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The Fleet (TOS)

2006-11-27T06:40:58Z

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:''This article involves the caravan of [[Sublight Propulsion|sublight-speed]] civilian ships in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]]. For information on its [[FTL|faster-than-light capable]] counterpart in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]], see [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. For information on the military warships that protected the Twelve Colonies before their demise, see [[Colonial Fleet]]''. 

[[Image:ragtagfleet.jpg|thumb|A shot of the "rag-tag fugitive fleet".]]
After the destruction of the [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)|Twelve Colonies]] in a devastating genocidal attack on the Colonial worlds, Commander [[Adama (TOS)|Adama]] orders all survivors to find what operational ships that remain on their shattered worlds and fly them towards [[Battlestar (TOS)|battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)|Galactica]]'', the sole surviving battlestar after her sister warships are also [[Battle of Cimtar|destroyed]] in the two-prong [[Cylons (TOS)|Cylon]] attack. With nowhere else to call home, Adama decrees that the remnants of humanity will search for the [[Thirteenth Tribe]] on a planet called [[Earth]].

Under the guardianship of ''Galactica'', the Fleet comprises of 220 civilian ships. With the exception of ''Galactica'', the ships are not capable of [[lightspeed]] flight. The Fleet's overall speed is limited to that of the slowest ship within the group. As all ships in the Fleet were filled to (or over) capacity, removing the slower ships from the caravan is not a option.

Ships in the Fleet include:

* [[Battlestar (TOS)|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)|Galactica]]'', the only military vessel capable of defensive and offensive actions
* [[Celestra (TOS)|''Celestra'']], an electronics ship ([[Take the Celestra]])
* ''[[Prison Barge]]'', a prison ship operated by members of [[Council Security]]
* ''[[Rising Star (TOS)|Rising Star]]'', a luxury liner and [[chancery]]
* ''[[Colonial Movers]]'' freighters
* An unnamed ''[[Flattop]]'' ship
* Freighter ''[[Gemini]]'', from which [[Cassiopeia]] is rescued in "[[Saga of a Star World]]"
* ''[[Astradon]]'', a freighter nearly lost in the [[Magnetic void]] ([[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II (TOS)|Lost Planet of the Gods]])
* ''[[Aedina]]'', a civilian ship nearly lost in the [[Magnetic void]] ([[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II (TOS)|Lost Planet of the Gods]])
* ''[[Tip Barge]]'', possibly a garbage ship ([[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I (TOS)|Lost Planet of the Gods]])
* At least three [[Agro Ship|agro ships]], including one named ''[[Agro Ship 9]]''
* Battlestar ''[[Pegasus (TOS)|Pegasus]]'' briefly joins the Fleet in "[[The Living Legend, Part I]]" and "[[The Living Legend, Part II|Part II]]"
* The ''Comp-Tel ship'' is mentioned by [[Chameleon]] ([[The Man with Nine Lives]])
* The ''[[livestock ship]]'' is mentioned in "[[The Man with Nine Lives]]".
* The ''[[Trainian]]'', ''[[Pisces]]'', and ''[[Borella]]'' are mentioned ships in the Fleet ([[The Man with Nine Lives]])
* The ''[[Senior ship]]'' is mentioned by [[Adama (TOS)|Adama]] when he tells of [[Siress]] [[Blassie]]'s attempts to find out the whereabouts of [[Chameleon]] ([[The Man with Nine Lives]]).
* The freighter ''Delphi'' is shown in the "[[Galactica 1980]]" episode "[[The Super Scouts, Part I]]", and is the fleet's schooling ship

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Hero

2006-11-18T22:44:17Z

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{{Episode Data
| title= Hero
| image= Season 3 - Promo - Hero -Adama Tigh and Novacek.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 8
| guests= [[Carl Lumbly]]
| writer= [[David Eick]]
| story=
| director= [[Michael Rymer]]
| production=
| rating=
| US airdate= 2006-11-17
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population= 41,421
| prev= [[A Measure of Salvation]]
| next= [[Unfinished Business]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''A [[Bulldog|figure]] from [[William Adama|Adama]]'s past returns to haunt him. His return raises questions about why the Cylons launched their initial attack against the [[Twelve Colonies]]. <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/hero/episode/748771/summary.html |title=TV.com Episode Summary}}</ref>''
== Summary ==

=== On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' ===

* ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' detects three [[Cylon Raider|Raiders]]. Much to the surpise of the [[CIC]] crew, two Raiders are pursuing a third. [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] are dispatched. After destroying the pursuing Raiders, they go after the third.
* In CIC, Adama orders Kat and Starbuck to escort the Raider to ''Galactica'', after hearing [[Bulldog]]'s communication squaks.
* Kat and Starbuck escort the Raider in. In the hangar bay, Adama and the party that meets the Raider, surprised at the fact that a human appears to have piloted the craft. A visibly weak Bulldog salutes Adama; Adama returns the salute.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===
*In a dream, [[Three]] is trying to avoid marines on ''[[Galactica]]''. The marines corner her against a hatch labelled End of Line. The marines raise their weapons and Three tells them to shoot.
*As the shots go off, Three wakes up in bed with [[Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]]. She has apparently been having a sexual relationship with Baltar and possibly Six as well.
*In the Cylon control room Caprica-Six questions Three about her bad dreams. Caprica asks if the dreams are about Baltar and Three tells her that it's nothing like that, but does not elaborate.
*Three gives a centurion orders to shoot her, and then delete any information regarding the incident. The centurion obeys and shoots her in the head. In the moments before she is downloaded, she experiences images from her dream mixed in with memories from New Caprica and other more cryptic scenes.
*Three awakes in a rebirthing chamber where a worried Caprica-Six tries to help her recover. Three tells her, "There's something beautiful, miraculous between life and death."

== Questions ==

*Did humans taken prisoner well before the Fall of the Twelve Colonies provide the original genetic pool for the humanoid Cylons?
*Did Bulldog know of or see other human prisoners during his three years of captivity?
*How was Bulldog directed to the precise location of the fleet?
*What class of battlestar does ''[[Valkyrie]]'' belong to?
*Why would a "Stealth Ship" in enemy territory break radio silence?
*Why would Bulldog have been compelled to lie about the manner in which he escaped the basestar, and what motivated him to say what he did?
*Was ''[[Valkyrie]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s mission the only one the admiralty undertook or were there others?
*Was [[Laura Roslin]] right in speculating that the admiralty might have sent ''[[Valkyrie]]'' in order to provoke a war?
*Why did the Cylons have one craft jump in and fire on the stealth star, then jump out? Then send in two more ships to finish the attack? Could the first Cylon ship have really been sent by the admiralty to expose the stealth star?
*Who were the white-robed figures [[Three]] saw in her vision before downloading?
*Were the Cylons on the baseship where Bulldog was held really sick?
*Does Bulldog have information regarding the other humanoid Cylon models that nothing is known of?
*How did Baltar's status change from torturee in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]" to an apparent sexual relationship with [[Caprica Six]] and [[Number Three]]?

== Analysis ==
*At the end of the episode, [[Saul Tigh]] appears to be attempting to try and deal with his guilt over his wife, but he does not seem to want his job as XO back, at least not any time soon.
*Adama's feelings of guilt over his actions during ''[[Valkyrie]]'s'' mission seem to shed new light on the motivation for his speech at ''[[Galactica]]'s'' decomissioning ceremony at the begining of the series.
*The Cylons seem to have been able to detect and destroy The Stealth-Star that had only entered two kilometers into their space. This seems suspicious given the fact that they were unable to detect the [[Blackbird]], presumably a far less sophisticated design. Either the Cylons had more advanced detection equipment on the [[Armistice Line]], or they had advance knowledge of Bulldog's mission.
**It is only speculation that the Blackbird's stealth capabilities were less effective than those of the Stealth-Star. The reason that the Blackbrid went undetected by the Cylons is that it's hull, at Helo's suggestion, was made of carbon composite. There is no way of knowing whether or not this was true of the Stealth-Star.
*Bulldog's story is even less believable given the fact that it took Kara Thrace several hours to gut a raider and learn how to fly it. Granted, the Raider Kara captured was damaged, but it would still have taken Bulldog some time to adapt the raider for his own use.
*Bulldog probably could have stolen a Heavy Raider, which unlike the light versions seems to have a crew compartment and perhaps piloting controls, but then the production crew couldn't have re-used the captured-Raider prop from "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]" on the flight deck set.
*That Kara Thrace goes to Tigh with her findings is an acknowledgment of their shared semi-pariah status and the connection that was shown in "[[Collaborators]]" for the first time
*The last two scenes of "Hero" appear to have been edited to ensure that the final scene was with Adama and Tigh. Right after the celebration scene, Adama is seen giving Bulldog a new uniform, but Adama is wearing his everyday uniform. In the final scene with Tigh, Adama is wearing his dress grays from the celebration. It appears at the very least, the two scenes were in reverse order, meaning the episode originally ended with Adama giving Bulldog his new uniform.
*The architecture of the place Number Three visits between life and death is similar if not identical to that of the operahouse on Kobol which Baltar and his internal Six entered in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]".
*Three's flashbacks after being shot indicate her to be the same individual who was killed on Caprica by [[Caprica-Six]] in "[[Downloaded]]" and who found Hera in "[[Exodus, Part II]]". It is of course possible that some of these recollections are the result of memory-sharing rather than direct experience.

== Notes ==

*In Number Three's dream, the door at which is she is shot by the marines is labeled "End of Line". As well as being a metaphor for death, this is a statement repeated often by the Cylon [[Hybrid]].

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Official Statements ==
*A video blog gives an insight to this episode during filming. <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?cat=videoBlog&vid=34824|title=Introducing Bulldog|date=2006-10-11|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=VID|language=}}</ref>

== Guest Stars ==
*[[imdb:nm0447921|Barry Kennedy]] as Admiral [[Corman]]
*[[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
*[[Carl Lumbly]] as Lt. [[Daniel Novacek]]
*[[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Doctor [[Cottle]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]

== References ==
<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

{{episode list (RDM season 3)}}

[[Category:Episodes written by David Eick]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Michael Rymer]]
[[Category:RDM]]

A Measure of Salvation

2006-11-12T18:16:35Z

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{{Episode Data
| title= A Measure of Salvation
| image= Amos.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 7
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
| writer= [[Michael Angeli]]
| story=
| director= [[Bill Eagles]]
| production= 307
| rating=
| US airdate= November 10, 2006
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population= 41,420
| prev= [[Torn]]
| next= [[Hero]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''[[Lee Adama|Apollo]] and [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] are dispatched to interrogate the dying [[Cylons]] on board the infected baseship, and learns how [[Baltar]] is helping their adversaries; the virus inspires [[Lee]] to come up with a new strategy.''

== Summary ==
=== On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' ===
*A boarding party comprising of [[Raptor]]s and [[Viper Mark VII|Vipers]] investigate the derelict [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]. Among the boarding party are [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] and [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]].
*Aboard the derelict, [[marines]] explore the corridors, finding the [[Cylon agent|Cylons]] dead. Athena attempts to access the derelict basestar's [[Hybrid]], but is unsuccessful.
*Some "skinjobs" around the control center revive and advise the boarding party of the situation regarding the probe and subsequent infection of the Cylons. One of the infected Cylons, a [[Number Eight]], addresses Athena as "traitor."
*The boarding party and prisoners are en route back to ''Galactica'' when the basestar self-destructs.
*''Galactica'' quarantines the boarding party and prisoners while Dr. [[Cottle]] finds out if the virus affects humans. The human members of the boarding party are cleared while Athena is ordered to stay put, as her blood work hasn't been done. [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] is infuriated, but wants to be notified as soon as her results are available.
*Dr. Cottle's investigation identifies [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|a virus]] that can be treated, but not cured for Cylons. [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]], [[William Adama|Admiral Adama]], Lee Adama, and Helo discuss the idea of taunting the vaccine in exchange for information. A [[Simon]] is brought before them, and informs them that the entire baseship was abandoned, because [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] would infect the others. He also mentions that [[Gaius Baltar]] provided the information on the path to [[Earth]].
*Aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'', Lee Adama suggests a plan to eliminate the entire Cylon race by executing their prisoners in range of a [[Resurrection Ship]], where the downloaded consciousnesses would infect the remaining Cylons. Helo scoffs at the idea, considering it genocide.
*Aboard ''Galactica'', Athena finds she's immune because of antibodies generated within her body by carrying her daughter, [[Hera]]. Helo tells her of the Fleet's plan, and Athena understands.
*Admiral Adama shows slight dissent about the plan, indicating regulations that forbid him to proceed without presidential order. Despite the ethical ramifications, the President authorizes the biological attack.
*''Galactica'' [[FTL|Jumps]] to a Cylon supply line, and launches Vipers and Raptors to attract the Cylon fleet. In the midst of this, Helo initiates a plan to thwart the execution, unplugging what looks like a standard power connector from an environmental control box.
*The Cylons jump into the area, with Resurrection Ship in tow. Adama orders the execution of the prisoners.
*Lee Adama leads a team to execute the prisoners, but finds that all the prisoners have been killed prior to the Resurrection Ship arriving. Adama orders a recall, and ''Galactica'' escapes without sustaining any major damage.
*Helo converses with Athena about his actions. He maintains that what he did was right, regardless of the consequences.
*Aboard ''Galactica'', Adama reports that the prisoners were suffocated due to a failure in the environmental controls. Roslin is quick to point out one or two might be responsible, but Adama closes the issue. Subsequently, the virus was most likely an accidental exposure, similar to one reported 3000 years ago. Adama points out that they're on the right track to Earth, but Roslin notes that the Cylons are the right track as well.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===

*Aboard the bastestar, Baltar is being interrogated by Three and Caprica-Six, knowing about the beacon. Three and Caprica-Six imply that Baltar is connected to the virus and to Galactica. Baltar attempts to reconcile, only to be confronted by Centurions.
*In his "projection", his mental Six tells him to relax. Meanwhile, his body is being subjected to torture; Caprica Six is visibly disturbed by the torture and backs away.
*Baltar's torture continues as Three continues to interrogate Baltar regarding his supposed involvement with the virus. In his mind, he attemps to avert the pain by making love to his mental Six. Despite extreme pain, Baltar endures.

== Questions ==

* If [[Adama]] had brought the beacon aboard, what kind of information would it have given them about the location of Earth?
* Will [[Caprica-Six]] continue to stand by and permit Baltar's mistreatment at their hands?
* Where is Caprica-Six's own internal Baltar in all of this?
* Of the Cylons, which type told the basestar to self-destruct: The [[Hybrid]] or a [[Cylon agent]]? Considering her odd look after the destruction, might it have been [[Athena]]?
* What kind of new start are the [[Cylon]]s planning for [[Earth]]? Just a new home planet, an attempt at human Cylon relations not tainted by the destruction of the Twelve Colonies, or something else?
* Why did an entire Cylon fleet (including a [[Resurrection Ship]]) jump to the encounter with ''Galactica''? Why was the [[Resurrection Ship]] not left behind somewhere else, as it was done in previous battles?
* Is D'anna in love with Baltar?
* Why is [[Gaeta]] so surprised to hear that Baltar is alive, given the fact that he was actually there when D'Anna offered Baltar to be evacuated from New Caprica?
* Why does [[Simon]] so quickly claim science can not provide a solution to the infection?
* Why wasn't the execution squad in place and waiting with the prisoners so the plan could have been implemented in a timely manner?
* Since the plan was to execute the prisoners then jump away, why wasn't the jump drive already spun up and ready?
* The environmental controls seem to have been circumvented by [[Karl Agathon]] pulling a single plug. In a combat ship aren't there cascading fail safe systems to protect against such catastrophic failures from simple system malfunctions?
* In his discussion with [[Laura Roslin]] at the end of the episode, [[Admiral Adama]] is aware that sabotage was involved in the death of the Cylon prisoners, yet he states there will be no investigation. While he might be relieved that the plan wasn't carried out, wouldn't he be seriously concerned and want to aggressively pursue this matter?
*Why was Sharon Agathon kept in quarantine after Cottle determined that humans were immune? Whether infected or not, she couldn't have transmitted the disease to anyone else, other than Cylon agents that may still be in the fleet.
*[[Baltar]] calls the [[Number Three]] torturing him "D'anna". Is she, or at least does Baltar believe she is, the same number 3 that was previously masquerading in the fleet as a reporter?
*Considering that she was pulled from flight status in [[Torn|the previous episode]], what is [[Starbuck]] doing in a Viper during the brief battle? Is Galactica desperate for pilots again?
*Will there be any consequences of the sabotage for Helo and Athena from other crewmembers who may figure they are behind said sabotage? How will this affect Helo's reputation as a Cylon-lover or his credibility as XO.

== Analysis ==

*The Cylons could have cured themselves of this plague relatively quickly, if ''Galactica'' had succeeded in infecting them. It was quickly noted in the episode that Sharon was immune herself because fetal cells from [[Hera]] created effective antibodies against the virus. Hera is immune to the virus because she is a hybrid Human-Cylon. Now that she is in custody of the Cylons, Baltar could have utilized her immunity, as he previously did on Roslin, as capital to further his self-preservation amongst them.
*The wider implications of such an event could have been religiously meaningful to the Cylons. Cylons have time and again shown religious deference by sometimes overlooking rational explinations. By saving the Cylon race Hera could have been elevated to messiah status, if her very creation has not already ordained her as one to the Cylons because their God proclaimed her creation.
*There is a fundamental flaw in the plan [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] develops: Even if the virus successfully infects the [[Resurrection Ship]], the other Cylons would isolate that individual ship, thus preventing a widespread epidemic. The resulting impact on the Cylon fleet would be no greater than previous destruction of the Resurrection Ship in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]".
**Apollo's plan is based on an account of the Cylon analysis of the threat; he could simply assume they are correct and that the virus can spread like wildfire from one Resurrection Ship to another.
*Adama's reaction to the premature death of the prisoners is yet another example of what are simultaneously his greatest virtues and most glaring flaws - his dedication to those under his command, and his need to keep his conscience clear.
*In this episode, [[Raptors]] are shown loaded to the teeth with weapons systems. In the past ([[Miniseries]], [[The Hand of God]]), Raptors have rarely been depicted in actual combat, preferring instead to hang back while coordinating battlefield logistics. They have been shown armed in a few prior episodes ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[Fragged]]), but this is by far their most prominent combat role to date. The Raptors are using the external missile pods and cannons introduced in "Exodus, Part [[Exodus, Part I|I]] & [[Exodus, Part II|II]]" and engage in the same maneuver used to launch the decoy drones during the Battle of New Caprica.
*Helo has been promoted to the rank of Captain, as evident in both dialogue and costuming.
*Starbuck seems to have returned to flight status following her decision to pull herself together at the end of "[[Torn]]".
*The genetic pool the skinjobs were created from predates the human immunity to the plague from just a couple hundred years ago, yet the Cylons, even as a class of machines, are only 40 to 60 years old. This indicates another, non-Colonial, source for the DNA.

== Notes ==
*[[Survivor count|Fleet population]] is 41,420. Barring any births, there is an unaccounted loss of at least two since "[[Torn]]".
*The story behind the Lion Nebula beacon and the virus may have been inspired by the lunar lander [[wikipedia:Surveyor 3|Surveyor 3]]. Before launching in 1967, its camera was accidentally contaminated by a common bacterium. When the camera was recovered by Apollo 12 astronauts, the microbes returned to life, having survived two and a half years of vacuum, radiation, and temperature extremes.
*This is the first episode in which [[Saul Tigh]] has not appeared. Currently, the only characters to have appeared in every episode are [[Laura Roslin]] and [[William Adama]].
*Dr. Cottle identifies the disease as [[Lymphocytic encephalitis]], however [[w:encephalitis|encephalitis]] is a condition (swelling of the brain) that can be caused by a pathogen, not a pathogen itself. More likely the pathogen is [[wikipedia:Lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus|Lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus]].

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Captain [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. Felix Gaeta
* [[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Doctor [[Cottle]]
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Constanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza]]
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
* [[imdb:nm0669826|Eileen Pedde]] as Sgt. [[Mathias]]
* [[imdb:0461101|Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]] (credited)

== References ==
<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

{{Episode list (RDM season 3)}}

[[Category:Episodes written by Michael Angeli]]
[[Category:RDM]]

Tory Foster

2006-11-11T16:15:05Z

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|colony= Caprica (likely)
|birthname= Tory Foster
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|role= Presidential Aide to [[Laura Roslin]]
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|actor= [[Rekha Sharma]]
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'''Tory Foster''' becomes President [[Laura Roslin]]'s new aide and campaign manager following the death of [[Billy Keikeya]]. Prior to the Cylon attack, she was precinct captain for the [[Federalist Party]] in Delphi for five years, where she became proficient at taking polls. ([[The Captain's Hand]])

When President Roslin made the decision to keep the new-born Cylon/Hybrid baby as far away from Sharon and the Cylons as possible, Tory made a list of hand picked civilians who could be trusted with the baby. In the end a civilian named [[Maya]] was selected to take custody of the child. Tory made it very clear that the child's mother's identity remain a secret. Tory told Maya that the mother was an "officer aboard the ''[[Pegasus]]''." ([[Downloaded]])

Tory later conspired with [[Saul Tigh]] and [[Anastasia Dualla]] to rig the Presidential election in Roslin's favor. The ruse was uncovered and suppressed by Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] and Lt. [[Gaeta]]. ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])

During the occupation of [[New Caprica]], Foster aided Roslin in compiling a list of humans who were in collusion with the Cylons. She was tasked, and failed, with ensuring the safe transport of Maya and [[Hera|Hera/Isis]], the Cylon/Human hybrid child. Maya was killed trying to escape New Caprica with the child. ([[Occupation]], Exodus [[Exodus, Part I|I]] & [[Exodus, Part II|II]])

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33

2006-11-09T04:15:57Z

Pd THOR: /* Questions */ - supposition, see talk;

{{translation|[[33/fr:33 minutes|French]], [[33/pt:33|Portuguese]], and [[33/ms:33|Malay]]}}

{{Episode Data
| image = 33mincount_101_1080i.jpg
| title= 33
| series=
| season= 1
| episode= 1
| guests=
| writer= [[Ronald D. Moore]]
| story=
| goof=Y
| director= [[Michael Rymer]]
| production= 101
| rating= 2.6
| US airdate= 2005-01-14
| UK airdate= 2004-10-18
| dvd= {{Season 1 NTSC DVD release date}} '''US''' {{Season 1 PAL DVD release date}} '''UK'''
| population=
| extra= '''Series Premiere'''
| prev= [[Miniseries]]
| next= [[Water]]
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== Overview ==

: ''Continuing from the events of the [[Miniseries]], [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] ''[[Galactica]]'' and [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] must avoid their [[Cylon]] pursuers, which ambush them every 33 minutes after each successful [[FTL|Jump]].''

== Summary ==

=== On ''[[Galactica]]'' ===
* The crew of battlestar ''[[Galactica]]'' have been on continuous alert for some 130.35 hours, during which time the Fleet has had to make an [[FTL|FTL Jump]] every 33 minutes to escape their [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] pursuers shortly after their initial escape from [[Ragnar Anchorage]].
* Everyone in the Fleet is beginning to feel the strain – particularly [[Gaius Baltar]], who is also distracted by [[Number Six|Six’s]] repeated conversations about [[God]] having a plan for him, and also her wanting to have his children.
* Vessels in the Fleet are also beginning to feel the strain: Jump engines and their controlling computers are starting to breakdown or malfunction, requiring ''Galactica'' to linger longer and longer in the Cylon line of fire while the rest of the fleet complete their Jumps.
* Following jump number 237, [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] receives word from a Dr. [[Amorak]] aboard the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' concerning information on how the Cylons overcame Colonial defenses.
* Overhearing the conversation, Baltar is worried: he knew Amorak at the [[Defence Ministry]]. As Six points out, Amorak might have information on Baltar's complicity with the Cylon attack.
* There is insufficient time before the next Jump to bring Amorak aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'', but Roslin wants to see him directly after the Jump has been completed.
* Elsewhere, [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] is having problems accepting her new [[ECO]], [[Crashdown]], and is feeling guilty about leaving [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]] on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] to his fate.
* When the next Jump is made, the ''Olympic Carrier'', complete with Dr. Amorak and 1344 other souls, fails to appear with the rest of the Fleet. Six tries to convince Baltar that it is because God is watching over him.
* Thirty-three minutes later, the Fleet is ready to jump, but the Cylons don’t appear. Adama orders a stand-down from the immediate alert, but the Fleet is to maintain a readiness to Jump, in case the Cylons do return.
* When Baltar continues to refuse the concept of God, the ''Olympic Carrier'' reappears; Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] orders the Fleet to [[Action Stations|Condition One alert]], fearing the worst. He orders the Jump clocks reset in anticipation of the Cylons arriving.
*The [[Combat Air Patrol]] lead by [[Lee Adama]] intercepts the [[Intersun|starliner]]. Adama orders all communications with the ''Carrier'' jammed and the ''Carrier'' is ordered (through signal lamps) to remain at its current position. When the ''Carrier'' fails to heed orders not to approach the fleet, tensions rise, and a [[Radiological Alarm|radiological alarm]] reveals there is now a nuclear weapon on the liner.
*As the crisis deepens, the Cylons appear precisely 33 minutes after the return of the ''Carrier'', confirming that the ''Carrier'' was used somehow by the Cylons to track the Fleet. Adama wants to destroy the liner, but Roslin hesitates to give the order, as no one can be sure if the 1,345 people aboard the ''Carrier'' are still alive. Baltar is terrified she won't give the order for fear of Amorak's information.
*Six uses the hesitation to push Baltar into “repenting” before God. As soon as he does, Roslin gives the order to destroy the liner. Apollo and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] (reluctantly) open fire, destroying the liner. After the Fleet makes a Jump once more, the Cylon's relentless pursuit is halted.
*A day later, everyone is living with the consequences of their actions. Only [[Billy Keikeya]] has a small nugget of good news: at some point in the proceedings, a baby was born in the Fleet.

===On Caprica===
* [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] is on the run in the rainy woodland, and has [[Wikipedia:Claymore mine|Claymore-like ordinance]] he uses to blow up pursuing [[Cylon Centurion]]s.
* Helo's six days on the run comes to an end when he is captured by the Cylons, after being distracted by the appearance of a copy of [[Number Six]], wearing a white raincoat.
*Helo is “rescued” by [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|a copy of Valerii]], who shoots Six and then leads Helo away into the woods. Helo mistakenly believes that this Valerii copy is actually the "Boomer" copy that left Caprica and returned to rescue him.

== Questions ==

*Billy reports that the number of survivors is down by 300 - some lost through death from injuries, etc., some "lost" through initial inaccurate counts, and the rest have "disappeared." How can people simply "disappear" in the fleet?
*Does Doctor Amorak truly have something on Baltar's involvement in the holocaust?
*Is Six actually in contact with other Cylons, and thus involved in the disappearance / reappearance of the ''Olympic Carrier''?
*What happened to the group of survivors [[Helo]] was left with in the [[Miniseries]]?

== Analysis ==
*'''Why did the Cylons come "every 33 minutes"?''' Short answer: it was a number Ron Moore has stated he picked at random, with no other significance. Long answer: See the [[Numerology#33|Numerology]] article for in-depth analysis of the "mystery of 33".
*The cast actually consulted with a sleep deprivation expert before this episode, making a large effort to accurately depict the effects of sleep deprivation on their characters, and it really comes through on screen. Rather than simply yawning alot and constantly saying "wow, I'm so tired", the cast met the series' goal of realistically portraying their symptoms: they behave aggravated, they start to forget things, their minds just start "slowing down".
*With [[Number Six#Baltar's Internal Six|Baltar's internal Number Six]], three possibilities seem to suggest themselves:
**She is a creation of his own psyche; a reaction to his betrayal of his people to the Cylons. Certainly, his increasing psychosis in the episode would seem to point to this; but then, he has - like the rest - been five plus days without sleep, and some degree of paranoia is bound to result.
**She is, as she suggested in the Miniseries, created by an implanted chip in his head and possibly in communication with the Cylons. However, if this is the case, surely the Cylon hunt for the Fleet would continue despite the destruction of the ''Olympic Carrier'' - as the Cylons would be tracing the fleet through Baltar. Given the humans are to all intents and purposes "on the ropes", it seems odd that they would break off the attack when they have such a clear advantage.
***The brain scan on Baltar in "[[Home, Part II]]" dismisses the notion that a mechanical implant is in his head, although it may not be medically recognizable.
***At times through the series, Baltar's virtual Six ''claims'' that the other Cylons are totally unaware of her existence.
**Could Six be a complete download of "Six's" personality, captured at the point of destruction of Baltar's home, and now contained in his head, possibly occupying his subconscious, out of contact with her own kind, but able to fully interact with his thoughts and feelings – even manipulate his thoughts and feelings? This may suggest Baltar [[Gaius Baltar#Speculation: The Real Baltar?|could be a Cylon agent himself]].
*Why is Boomer's Raptor launched alongside Apollo's Vipers for what everyone is expecting to be an interdiction exercise against Cylon Raiders?
:* Based on events from the [[Miniseries]] and in later episodes, Raptors are occasionally used to support or augment Viper operations with strengthened [[DRADIS]] and perhaps [[Radiological Alarm|radiological]] detection. Normally, Raptors are not on [[CAP]] with Vipers and are frequently deployed alone or as a group, but the events of "[[33]]" suggest that Commander Adama wanted to ensure extra coverage with the Raptor's stronger [[Computers|avionics]] to ensure extra coverage of Cylon activity.
:* In a [[You Can't Go Home Again| later episode]] a Raptor is used for rescuing ejected pilots during combat.
*The Memorial Hallway scene continues the writers' allusion to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States to the events of the Miniseries through the use of the many memorials, the confusion in finding lost loved ones, and Dualla's amazement at the size of the memorial. (A [[Lest We Forget|picture of a Colonial soldier]] on one of the Colonies during its destruction also plays on the intense feelings felt by many Americans when they saw similar pictures of New York City firefighters at the ruins of the World Trade Center.)

== Notes ==
*This episode won the [[Awards and Honors|2005 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form]]
*When Season 1 premiered in the United States, "33" and "[[Water]]" aired back-to-back as a two hour tv event.
*When the first few episodes of the series began airing on Scifi Channel, title cards were shown at the beginning of each episode, i.e. "33" or "Water" flashing in white letters on a black screen, and then the episode would begin. This stopped by mid-Season 1.
*Continuous jumping badly affects the FTL drives and management systems aboard commercial Colonial vessels, which are not as rugged as the ''Galactica's'' military-issue drives
*The Cylons Jump ability is just as highly-accurate as the Jumps of the Colonials. In 238 times they manage to pounce on the Colonial fleet, arriving with precise momentum and trajectory to be able to close the distance and launch an attack
*According to Socinus, there are 5,251 people in the Fleet from [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Sagittaron|Sagittaron]]
*As of "33", there are 60 civilian ships in the Fleet, but [[Continuity errors (RDM)|errors in continuity of episode events]], especially from "[[Home, Part I]]", may place this initial information in question
*The head count of Colonial citizens at the end of the episode is 47,273
*[[Zoic]] visual effects artists hid small signs of movement within the ''Olympic Carrier'' in close-up effect shots as something of a morbid joke. Lights in the windows appear to flicker on and off rather rapidly and when slowed down there is some kind of movement visible on the inside of the ship
*In the DVD commentary for this episode, Ron D. Moore states that during the scene when Dualla hands Commander Adama a set of reports that he reads aloud (including fuel shortages, dozens of crewmen breaking down from nervous exhaustion, etc), Edward James Olmos ad-libbed "and ten suicides" in one take. The production team really liked the ad-lib, and thought the way Olmos acted the scene was fantastic. However, there were concerns that the network would think this would make an already ''extremely'' "dark" episode far '''too''' dark and alienate the audience during the premiere, and the line was reluctantly cut.
*During Season 1, ''Galactica''-Sharon parts her hair on the right side of her head, while Caprica-Sharon parts her hair on the left side of her head.
*At first appearance, there appears to be error with Billy's math with the [[Survivor count | survivor count]]. The episode starts with the count being 50,298. He informs Roslin this is in error by 300 = 49,998 survivors. When the ''Olympic Carrier'' is destroyed (1,345 people), he reduces the total to 47,972 – that’s a reduction of 2026, or 681 people ''more'' than listed on the ''Carrier''. However, in deleted scenes from this episode, Billy is actually reducing the survivor count additional times set between the beginning of the episode and the destruction of the ''Olympic Carrier''. These other deaths just occur offscreen.
**Not taking the deleted scenes into account, errors of math and logic are not uncommon for sleep-deprived people.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Baltar is having a vision of climbing into bed with Number Six''
:'''Six:''' You know you're not safe.
:'''Baltar:''' No, course not. The Cylons will follow us again, as they have the last two hundred and thirty seven times.
:'''Six:''' You're right, you know. There are limits. Eventually you'll make a mistake.
:'''Baltar:''' And then you'll kill us all. Yes. Yes, I know, but...not for another thirty-three minutes.

*''Addressing the bridge crew:''
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Yes, we're tired. Yes, there is no relief. Yes, the Cylons keep coming after us time after time after time. And yes, we are still expected to do our jobs!

* ''When Lee Adama and Kara Thrace are on ''Galactica's'' flight deck:''
:'''Lee Adama''': Hey, did you see the note from the XO?
:'''Kara Thrace''': I saw it. No way.
:'''Lee Adama''': Kara, everyone else--
:'''Kara Thrace''': I don't fly with stims. They fudge with your reflexes, your reaction time.
:'''Lee Adama''': Come on, Kara, give me a break. Just--
:'''Kara Thrace''': Why are we arguing about this?
:'''Lee Adama''': I have no idea.
:'''Kara Thrace''': Neither do I. You're the [[CAG]], act like one.
:'''Lee Adama''': What does that mean?
:'''Kara Thrace''': It means that you're still acting like everyone's best friend. We're not friends. You're the CAG. "Be careful out there?" Our job isn't to be careful, it's to shoot frakking [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] out of the sky. "Good Hunting" is what you say. And one of your idiot pilots is acting like a child and refusing to take her pills. So she either says "Yes, sir" and obeys a direct order, or you smack her in the mouth and drag her sorry ass to [[sickbay]] and you make her take those pills.
:(Lee and Kara both start laughing)
:'''Lee Adama''': Well, I'm glad I'm not working for you.
:'''Kara Thrace''': (laughing) Damn right you're glad.
:'''Lee Adama''': So do I have to smack you in the mouth, Lieutenant?
:'''Kara Thrace''': No sir, I'll take my pills. (takes pills from Lee) Perfect.
:'''Lee Adama''': Carry on.
:'''Kara Thrace''': (half-heartedly saluting) Yes, sir.

* ''When Commander Adama and Colonel Tigh are talking outside the [[CIC]]:''
:'''Colonel Tigh''': (grunting) Oh...a couple hours rack time does sound awfully sweet right about now...
:'''Commander Adama''': You deserve it.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': You know, the truth is, all this has me feeling...well, more alive than I have in years.
:'''Commander Adama''': You look that way too. It's good to see you without the cup in your hand.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Ah, don't start.
:'''Commander Adama''': I know there's a whole lot of people on this ship, that wish you weren't feeling as good.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': (laughing) If the crew doesn't hate the XO, then he's not doing his job. Besides, I've gotta make the old man look good.
:'''Commander Adama''': I always look good.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Look in the mirror.
:'''Commander Adama''': Seriously...
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Sir?
:'''Commander Adama''': It's one thing to push the crew. It's another thing to break them.

* ''As the [[Olympic Carrier]] heads on a suicide run towards ''Galactica'', Lee Adama, Kara Thrace and Sharon Valerii are flying beside the liner:''
:'''Boomer''': (in a Raptor flying beside the ''Olympic Carrier'') We have...new orders. We are directed to...destroy the ''Olympic Carrier'', and return back to ''Galactica''.
:'''Kara Thrace''': (in a Viper flying beside the carrier) It's a civilian ship!
:'''Crashdown''': (inside the Raptor) Yeah...a civilian ship with nukes.
:(Lee Adama looks out the cockpit window of his Viper at the ship, which seems to be barren)
:'''Crashdown''': I don't see anybody in there. Do you?
:'''Lee Adama''': The Cylons will be here any second. If we're gonna do this, let's just do it. Starbuck, form up with me and we'll make one pass from astern.
:(Lee and Kara fall back a fair distance from the ship)
:'''Kara Thrace''': Lee, what if you're wrong? (silence) Lee, come on. Lee!
:'''Lee Adama''': Okay, fire on my mark.
:'''Kara Thrace''': No [[Frak|frakking]] way, Lee. Lee! Come on!
:'''Lee Adama''': ... ... mark.
:(Lee and Kara both open fire on the Olympic Carrier, and it explodes in a ball of flames.)

== Official Statements ==

=== Offical Statements: Note on [["Lest We Forget"]] ===
{{From RDM blog}}

:"It's probably been asked before, but I'm curious as to whom[sic] is in the picture in the Viper Pilot's briefing room, facing away from the camera . . . the one the pilots, including [[William Adama|Commander Adama]], touch when they enter and leave? This is touching, and is a wonderful human element to the story. So who is it?"

:There was a scene cut from [[33|"33"]] where we saw [[Laura Roslin]] being given her copy of the photo along with a card that said it was taken on the roof of the capitol building on Aerilon during the attack. The photo was inspired by the famous shot of the fire-fighters raising the flag at Ground Zero that became iconic. I thought the Colonies would have their own version of this -- a snapshot taken in the moment that becomes a symbol of the day they can never forget and of all they had lost. The photo itself is of a soldier falling to his knees (possibly shot or simply overcome by emotion) as he stands on the rooftop over looking the devastation of his city, while the Colonial flag waves at the edge of frame. The inscription below the photo on Laura's plaque reads, [["Lest We Forget"]] in itself a reference to the inscription on the watch presented to John Wayne's character in "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon."

=== Comments from the Cast ===

*"Insomnia. Nobody has slept. Everyone's just coming to terms with the fact that they have lost everybody that they've loved or relate to." -- [[Jamie Bamber]], [http://scifi.com/battlestar/bts/video/mov/video_06_320.mov]

*"It was a hard episode, because, you just had to basically fall apart." -- [[Katee Sackhoff]], [http://scifi.com/battlestar/bts/video/mov/video_06_320.mov]

*"Episode 1 is extremely docu-style because the characters haven't actually slept for five days (sic) and they have been running from the Cylons for the 250th time. And it's very stressful and they're about to lose the plot completely because of sleep deprivation." -- [[Michael Rymer]], [http://scifi.com/battlestar/bts/video/mov/video_06_320.mov]

=== Excerpt from the Official Companion ===
In [[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]], the dedicated performance by the cast, trying to accurately and realistically depict extensive sleep deprivation on-screen, was explained:
:"''Battlestar Galactica<nowiki>'</nowiki>''s first season premiere required the show's cast members to depict their characters under extreme physical and emotional duress, as they faced sleep deprivation and the constant threat of Cylon attack. This unique and intriguing acting challenge prompted Edward James Olmos to enlist the assistance of a sleep deprivation expert, who met with the cast shortly prior to the starting of shooting. Olmos and several other cast members also restricted their sleeping paterns a few days before filming, to gain a better understanding of sleep deprivation.

:"I rested just before we actually shot the episode, because I didn't want to go on-camera exhausted," explains Olmos. "But in the week before shooting, I only had about three hours of sleep per night and I studied myself to get to know how to pay the symptoms of sleep deprivation. About two days away from shooting, I was sitting in this meeting and everyone was looking at me as I tried to make sense. I told everyone, "This is what happens when you go without sleep — you don't act funny or yawn all the time, it's more the case that your mind doesn't function correctly". The doctor later expanded on this, and pretty soon everyone was tuned in. So when we went into the episode, everyone knew exactly what they were doing, and it was beautiful to watch."" (page 46)

== Guest stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Crewman Specialist [[Cally]]
*[[Alonso Oyarzun]] as Crewman Specialst [[Socinus]]
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Crashdown]]

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Talk:33/Archive 1

2006-11-09T04:15:10Z

Pd THOR: - supposition

== Regarding the nit-picking ==

Personally, I believe these should be reserved for the Discussion page, but I won't edit them out. I will discuss them here though:

-The Raptor
The Raptor is the equivalent of a US Navy E-3 AWACS or A-6 Intruder. It has an advanced sensor package that would make it invaluable in combat situations. I think the CAG's order for the Raptor to retreat was due more to the fact that the incoming Raiders were indeed hostile and her services were no longer necessary.
It is ludicrous to suppose that Raptors are unarmed. (And, as we saw in the S1 Finale, they are indeed armed and are capable of even heavier armaments.) However, it is feasable to infer that they are not front-line combat craft such as the Viper.
With regard to the specific situation, the Raptor was necessary to feel-out the ''Carrier''. It is presumably SOP for a Raptor to accompany any inspections in order scan said vessel for any hazards. A better question here is why didn't the Raptor detect the radiological alarm?

-9/11
How is this misplaced? This was their 9/11. What more do I need to say here?

-Destruction of the ''Olympic Carrier''
I disagree with the statement that the ambiguity of the people on board weakens the story. By us not knowing, it allows us to sympathize with Lee as he wrestles with the idea of destroying the ship. He didn't know if there were people aboard. True, he did not see anyone in the windows, but perhaps his view was obstructed. Perhaps the people in the particular windows were sleeping? We can suppose several ideas here, but the fact of the matter is that the ship had to be destroyed, it was destroyed, and Lee eventually came to terms with it's destruction. Were there people on board? We will honestly never know. The point here is that regardless, 1,300 souls are now dead.

-Tigh's Alcoholism
This is the central flaw of this character. Why would they NOT remind us? It is the one thing that prevents us from placing our trust in him and relying on him as we rely on Cmdr. Adama. Expect to see more of this.

This is just a response to the nitpicking. Please do not take this as a personal attack. --[[User:TxRedcoat|TxRedcoat]] 09:00, 8 Apr 2005 (EDT)

== Billy's crappy math ==

:''Billy reports that the number of survivors is down by 300 - some lost through death from injuries, etc., some "lost" through initial inaccurate counts, and the rest of whom have "disappeared". How can people simply "disappear" in the fleet?''

Well, given his crappy math, it's easy to see why :)

: Well, actually, if you think about it, there should be several secluded places that come to mind when you want to commit suicide on a ship. This is post-Holocaust. I wouldn't be surprised if some people just killed themselves. -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 18:15, 10 July 2005 (EST)

: Honestly, I think the point is that if [[Billy Keikeya|Billy]] knew '''why''' these people were now unaccounted for, he'd say so. Not knowing, the only thing he can say is that they've disappeared. As [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] says above, some of them probably stepped into a convenient airlock. Some, unpleasant as it may sound, may have been pushed -- cramped conditions, high tension, short tempers...some people may have gotten voted off the island, as it were. A few were probably Cylon agents, like the copy of [[Leoben Conoy]] that pops up in "[[Flesh and Bone]]", who went to ground. Honestly, there's enough confusion in this situation that having only 300 go completely unaccounted for is not bad. --[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 00:18, 24 February 2006 (EST)

== US Air Date ==

What is the real US Airdate? Two shows can't have the same Airdate. :x --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 16:14, 17 March 2006 (CST)
:Query: Have we found out the the airdate problem? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:52, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
::33 and Water premired back to back on the same night on Scifi. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:35, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
:::I must have not noticed that..... Very werid indead. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:36, 27 July 2006 (CDT)

== Summary from SciFi.com ==

Is this section needed? I noticed that with "Valley of Darkness" we stopped including them. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 12:21, 2 July 2006 (CDT)

== - supposition ==

: "They cold have been the people on the Prometheus([[Black Market]])"
This is unlikely, as this episode is set immediately after the miniseries and the fleet has been continually jumping to avoid the Cylons. Prometheus is unlikely to have become a hub for black market goods in this time, much less established the beginnings of a slave trade. — '''[[User:pd_THOR|pd_THOR]]''' |''' [[User_talk:pd_THOR|=/\=]]''' 22:15, 8 November 2006 (CST)

Torn

2006-11-08T03:57:05Z

Pd THOR: /* Overview */ + disambiguation;

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| episode= 6
| guests=
| writer= [[Anne Cofell Saunders]]
| story=
| director= [[Jean de Segonzac]]
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| US airdate= 2006-11-03
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population= 41,422
| prev= [[Collaborators]]
| next= [[A Measure of Salvation]]
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== Overview ==
:''Part one of two. [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] create divisions between those who suffered under the Cylon occupation of [[New Caprica]] and those who stayed with the fleet. Meanwhile, [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] tries to prove his worth to the Cylons.''<ref>[http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?episodeid=6006095&tvobjectid=191395&more=ucepisodelist]</ref>''

== Summary ==

=== On [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] ===

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestar]] ===

== Questions ==

== Analysis ==

== Notes ==

*According to an [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/4175/58/ interview] with executive producer [[David Eick]], episodes 5 and 6 are a two-part story in which ''Galactica'' discovers a dying Cylon Baseship, and deals with a plague that has befallen the Cylons. (Eick is counting "Occupation" and "Precipice" as one episode.)
== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==
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Exodus, Part I

2006-10-22T15:24:43Z

Pd THOR: /* Questions */ + italicization;

{{Episode Data
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| image=Roslinanders-Exodus.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 3
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
| writer= [[Bradley Thompson]] [[David Weddle]]
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| director= [[Félix Enríquez Alcalá]]
| production= 303
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| US airdate= 2006-10-13
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| next= [[Exodus, Part II]]
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== Overview ==

:''The [[Cylons]] have begun the brutal crackdown on [[New Caprica]]'s [[Resistance]] movement. Tyrol receives disturbing news from a secret source within Baltar's administration while Colonial detainees face a Cylon firing squad on New Caprica. With time running out for the colonists, Admiral Adama will launch his rescue attempt with only the battlestar ''[[Galactica]]'', while his son, Commander [[Lee Adama]], and the battlestar ''[[Pegasus]]'' remain to protect what is left of the human fleet and continue the search for Earth if the rescue fails.''

== Summary ==

*The final moments of "[[Precipice]]" are reshown as the captured detainees are being taken off the trucks. [[Cally Tyrol]] is freed, as the Centurions march up the hill. Tyrol continues to run as gunfire is heard. As the screen goes to black, the words "One Hour Earlier" are displayed.
*[[Galen Tyrol]] is frantically talking with [[Saul Tigh]] about a list of detainees he received from his [[Felix Gaeta|source]], Cally Tyrol is among the listed. Tigh snaps him back to his senses, noting that they can locate the people now that they cracked the Cylons' coordinate system.
*Chief Tyrol immediately gets to work, succesfully calculating the location of the execution, and gathers a team to rescue Cally and the others.
*Tyrol's team, including [[Seelix]], is able to catch up with the Cylons, and get in position as Cally Tyrol starts running. Tyrol rushes out and gets his wife out of the line of fire, as his team takes out the Centurions meant to execute the detainees. Others injured include some members of the [[NCP]] and the [[Cavil]] that accompanies the truck.
*Seelix leaves a wounded Cavil to death. After he downloads into a new body, the Cavil reports that he ended his own life, but is somewhat traumatized from the transfer process.
*At [[Breeders Canyon]], similar to the scene at the [[Pergamus Flats]], a flashback shows how [[marines]] move into position to defend the meeting there against a possible attack.
[[Image:Colonial RPG.jpg|thumb|150px|right|Colonial Marine with an RPG]]
*[[Sharon Agathon]] moves ahead to meet with [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and the resistance. As Agathon and Anders discuss their plans, the Centurions attack, taking out some of the resistance fighters, but are soon destroyed by a marine RPG.
*After the attack, a map is recovered from one of the [[Cylon agent|'skinjobs']]. Anders recognizes it as the hand-drawn map passed on to [[Ellen Tigh]] to destroy in the heating fire within their tent. Anders immediately suspects Tigh in tipping off the Cylons.
*While sleeping in her bed on ''[[Colonial One]]'', [[Number Three]] dreams of a tent near some odd rock edifices. The next image is of her holding [[Hera]]. She wakes up suddenly.
*Also on ''[[Colonial One]]'', [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]] lie together in bed, but Baltar is fighting with impotence. Six is understanding, but Baltar shrugs off her sympathy.
*[[Kara Thrace]] is showing further affection for [[Kacey]] and apologizes for her getting hurt. [[Leoben Conoy]] watches from the background.
*Distrubed by her dream, [[Three]] visits [[Selloi]], a human [[oracle]] whose tent she saw in her dream, who tells her that [[Hera]] is still alive, but warns that holding the child will undo all that the Cylons have accomplished on the planet.
*On ''[[Galactica]]'', a combined crew of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' and ''Galactica'' crews ready for the rescue mission. [[Margaret Edmondson]] conducts a [[Salt Line Ceremony|ceremony]] to bind the people together, given the odds of the mission.
*[[William Adama|William]] and [[Lee Adama]] have a farewell of their own when Commander Adama leaves ''Galactica'' for ''Pegasus'', with orders to wait 18 hours for ''Galactica'''s return. Otherwise, ''Pegasus'' must continue the search for Earth with the surviving [[The Fleet (RDM)|members of the Fleet]].
*Three inquires with Dr. [[Cottle]], who is treating a Five wounded by a human attack, about Hera's alleged death. She points out that it didn't make much sense for him to simply cremate the first ever human/Cylon hybrid, something that no one had ever seen before, without studying it first. Cottle states that it was President Roslin's decision.
*[[Laura Roslin]] orders Anders to guard [[Maya]] and [[Hera]] at all costs. He tasks two of his best men to protect her and see to her safe escape.
*Gunnery Sergeant [[Mathias]], the leader of Agathon's Marines, meets with Roslin, [[Tom Zarek]] and the resistance to discuss the rescue plan. She brings weapons for the upcoming fight and learns that the colonists conducted evacuation exercises under the guise of fire drills.
*A [[Cavil]] voices his despair at the continued bloodshed, [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] agrees. Many of the Cylons disagree significantly as to what to do to reestablish control. A [[Number Five]] says that, if the worse comes to worst, that they can just nuke the city.
*Saul Tigh learns of his wife's betrayal and is visibly shocked by it.
*Sharon Agathon heads into the [[New Caprica Detention Center]] and gets the [[launch key]]s for the Colonial ship. Three enters the secured room, immediately recognizes her, stops Agathon and tells her that [[Hera|her daughter]] is alive. Unwilling to consider this matter for now, Agathon shoots the Three in the legs: "Adama wouldn't lie to me."
*''Galactica'' is given word that the launch keys have been retrieved, and after a rousing speech by Admiral Adama, begins preparations for the jump to New Caprica.

== Questions ==

*Roslin and Zarek seem to have reconciled their differences and become friends. Given Saul Tigh's feeling that Roslin will resume the Presidency once humanity has left [[New Caprica]], and that Zarek used to be Baltar's vice president, will he assume the mantle of vice president under Laura Roslin?
**Or, will Zarek claim the presidency by legal succession if Baltar is removed from office?
*A Cavil mentions that he has different sensations after each download. He suffers a slight headache after the first and, after the third, a sensation like a white hot poker inside his skull. Is there damage to the consciousness during each downloading and is there a point where after so many downloads the consciousness is destroyed or corrupted?
**In the podcast for this episode, [[Ronald D. Moore]] reveals that the intent of Cavil's description was to show that there is a "cost" associated with downloading.
***Although [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]] are not sentient to same degree as humanoid Cylons, [[Sharon Agathon]] describes a similar traumatizing after repeated deaths of the berserking Raider known as [[Scar (Raider)|Scar]].
***[[Number Three]] had commented in "[[Downloaded]]" on feeling refreshed like starting a new life when describing her download experience. [[Caprica-Six]] expressed adjustment issues, including her [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations|visions]] of Gaius Baltar.
*Are the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|Lords of Kobol]] real? Why are they sending accurate dreams to a Cylon? Why is a human oracle helping Three interpret the dreams?
**The gods are "real," at least as historical entities that lived on Kobol, a fact that even the Cylons acknowledge. The Cylons (and a number of Colonials) dispute their actual divinity. The Colonials appear to have some foresight from the gods through their [[oracle]]s. The connection of the Lords of Kobol to the Cylons is a curious (and unexplained) event in the case of the dreams of Number Three.
*Why does Doctor Cottle work to heal critically injured Cylons instead of just letting them die and be resurrected?
**The Cylons might want to minimize the trauma of downloading into a new body, although comments from Number Three to Cottle dispute this.
**Cottle is a physician, and has likely taken a vocational pledge to aid. Allowing a sentient being to die, regardless of their ideology, is breaching this oath through omission of action. He helped [[Sharon Agathon]] through her pregnancy for similar reasons.
***At least in TV drama, doctors in wartime have an affinity for helping everyone. There are plenty of [[Wikipedia:M*A*S*H (TV series)|''M*A*S*H'']] episodes that illustrate this.
*Where is "[[Download City]]"?
**It is possible that [[Seelix|Seelix's]] use of the phrase "Download City" is merely a euphemism for the download process the humanoid Cylon models go through.
**Download City may also be a reference to a downloading facility present on New Caprica.
***The Cylons would likely keep such a facility hidden to all humans on the planet, no matter what their relationship is to the Cylon occupation. The destruction by suicide or planted bomb of a download facility on New Caprica would spell real death for all agents there if Basestars aren't actually used for this purpose (this isn't likely, else the [[Resurrection Ship]] would not have been protected ''by'' Basestars).
****According to Bradley Thompson on [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques]], Download City is simply Seelix's slang for whereever Cylon's go when they resurrect.
*Is there any possibility at all that Adama wasn't aware of Roslin's plans for Hera?
**There are no direct indications that Adama is aware of Roslin's conspiracy regarding the baby. Given the positive changes in his relationship with Sharon Agathon, that seems to now be based on complete mutual trust, it is unlikely that he would keep such a profound secret from her, if he was aware of it.
**Additionally, Adama was quite direct with Helo regarding the plans to abort the child. Whatever his relationship with Sharon, it seems unlikely that Adama would rob Helo of his paternal rights in this way, particularly after Helo [[Epiphanies|brings up their respective fatherhood]].
**Dr. Cottle is a military officer and his actions would have to have been cleared through Adama. There may well be other reasons why Agathon wasn't told, including keeping the information from the Cylons in the event she was captured or downloaded.
***In military parlance, the president's authority supersedes that of an admiral, and a military officer does not need to report back to his commanding officer orders that originated from the president.
****However, Adama and Roslin agreed that ''all'' military matters rested with the Admiral, whereas Roslin was the civilian leader of the fleet. It stands to reason that Adama would have known.
*****That unofficial agreement was broken in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and there is no indication that they have restored it.
**The expression on Adama's face during his conversation with Sharon Agathon in "[[Occupation]]" suggests that he is aware of the conspiracy regarding Hera.
***Said expression may also be a reference to his guilt over the whole situation with Sharon Agathon/Boomer/Number Eight in general, and not a specific reference to Hera.
*What other operations are the Cylons busy with elsewhere in the universe, that are straining their resources for their experiment on New Caprica (also referenced to by Ron Moore in his podcast)?
*Will some humans refuse to leave once the escape begins?
*Will the escapees block proven or suspected collaborators from boarding the escaping ships?
**How many, if any, of the New Caprica Police are publicly known, and once the escape begins, what will be their ultimate fate?
*Adama's plan to use only ''Galactica'' and the ships remaining on the ground on New Caprica seems a bit unrealistic given the fact that there are over 39,000 colonists on the planet. How will they find room for all of the evacuees?
**It is very reasonable to assume that the carrying capacity of the ships approximates the number of people on the planet, since it is very resource-intensive to move people around in the ''Battlestar Galactica'' universe. The attrition suffered by the Colonials only improves this probability.
**Will the Colonials find time to also evacuate much of their critically-rationed supplies and equipment as well as themselves during the chaos of evacuation?
*Is Maya suspicious about Roslin's protectiveness of her and Isis?
**As mentioned in "[[Downloaded]]", Isis is said to have been a child given up by a senior ranking officer for political reasons. Maya may have been told that Isis, should she be captured, would make for a very valuable kidnapping asset, given her (supposed) parentage.
*What exactly has Caprica-Six given up for Gaius?
**To an extensive degree, Caprica is mistrusted by the other Cylons and while not thought to be a traitor per se, is probably considered a [[Wikipedia:Quisling|Quisling]]. This is what she may have meant.
* After Helo departs Admiral Adama's room after indicating that Sharon has the launch keys, Adama punches his desk, seemingly in frustration. Given that it is great news that Sharon has the keys and that they can now begin the rescue operation, why does Adama show anger/frustration? Is it his guilt over not being able to tell Helo and Sharon, who now has again proven her loyalty, that their daughter is alive?
** It can also be interpreted as Adama using the good news to break through the anger and frustration built up over the past several weeks of partly unsuccessful planning and training missions and not being able to do anything at the moment. Punching his desk can signify both anger and elation at the same time.

== Analysis ==
* The [[Number Three]] that has been having dreams about Hera saw [[Sharon Agathon]] and was able to tell that she was the copy that had been left with Helo on Caprica. She may have deduced this from the fact that Sharon was taking the launch keys, or she may have been able to sense her identity somehow.
* Roslin's line about [[Hera]], "She may well be the shape of things to come", echoes similar lines by Six in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]" and by Adama in "[[Valley of Darkness]]". "The Shape of Things to Come" is also the title of the orchestral music piece at the end of "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]".
*Anders seems to know, or at least suspect, what is so special about Maya's child.
*[[Caprica-Six]] has been [[Cylon rebirthing tank|redownloaded]] after her "death" in [[Precipice]]. She was not "boxed".
*The Cylons on New Caprica appear to not have any sort of attachment to the humans they rule as evidenced by their willingness to just nuke the colony if they can't make it work as desired. This conflicts with the decision that their earlier attempt at genocide was a mistake. This is additional evidence of fundamental contradictions and disconnects within the Cylon psyche that they are blind to. Based on their actions to date, skinjob behavior tends toward the sociopathic with the exception of Boomer, Sharon, and Caprica-Six.
*Baltar has become a suicidal drunk - his appearance has become slovenly and he appears to have given up on basic grooming. He is also having trouble performing the act of sex with Caprica-Six.
*The speech Admiral Adama gave to his crew is reminiscent of the choice given to Achilles by his mother before he left for Troy to do war. The option Achilles chose was to go to battle, and in doing so perform feats that allowed his name to live on through history. Adama states that his crew will receive similar immortality for their deeds, showing a common thread between the Colonies and the bronze age Hellenic culture their civilization is based upon.
**Bradley Thompson and David Weddle said that they have hardcover copies of ancient stories, like Homer's Iliad, and deliberately draw inspirations from them.
*There is a discontinuity between "[[Precipice]]" and this episode regarding the execution scene. First, Cally apparently changed direction between episodes for more dramatic effect. At the conclusion of "Precipice", Cally is shown jumping into a gully to the "left" of where the trucks are stopped, and is apparently shown running "down," toward the initial camera position. The camera shoots Cally from her right as she runs, showing a backdrop of trees and vines. In "Exodus, Part I", she is shown running to the "right," towards Tyrol and the other resistance fighters. The camera here is also from Cally's right, but this time she is running in front of a barren background. Secondly, the gunfire starts at a different time. At the conclusion of "Precipice", Cally is clearly shown running ''while'' the gunfire begins. In "Exodus, Part I", Tyrol throws her to the ground ''before'' it does.

== Notes ==

* There is also a comic called ''[[Exodus!]]'', which covers the events of [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the Original Series]]' episode, "[[Saga of a Star World]]" (Part 2).
* This is the first episode where viewers have seen an [[oracle]]. Oracles such as [[Pythia]] and [[Galen Tyrol]]'s mother have been mentioned but not seen.
* Tyrol inexplicably lost his beard before this episode. This was necessary because Aaron Douglas's scenes were shot weeks after the main part of the episode, when he had already shaved and it was felt that a fake beard would not be convincing.
*[[Chamalla]] is a bitter herb, and oracles sometimes use candy to sweeten it up.
*{{spoilli|According to [[Ronald Moore]]'s podcast, in earlier drafts [[Jammer]] was going to die during the shootout at the execution site. However, he decided that the character would be used in later episodes of the season.}}

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''As Chief Tyrol is about to leave Tigh's tent'':''
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Chief! Pull it together.. You won't do her any good if you get caught too.. Besides, the last thing your son wants is me and Ellen for parents..

*''Before Lee Adama departs ''Galactica'':''
:'''Admiral William Adama''': I'll see you at the rendezvous point.
:'''Commander Lee Adama''': Eighteen hours. Try not to be late.
:'''William Adama''': I'm getting old; I'm a little slow, but I'll be there.
:'''Lee Adama''': Gods, I wish I could talk you out of this...
:'''William Adama''': You can't. You tried.
:'''Lee Adama''': You know, Dad, um...
:'''William Adama''': Don't. Don't make me cry on my own hangar deck.

*''During the [[Salt Line Ceremony]] on the hangar deck:''
:'''Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson''': Their enemies will divide them, their colonies broken in the fiery chasm of space. The shining days renounced by a multitude of dark sacrifices. Yet still they will remain. Always together.

*''As Galactica prepares to return to New Caprica:''
:'''Admiral Adama''': This is the Admiral. You've heard the news. You know the mission. You should also know that there is only one way that this mission ends, and that's with the successful rescue of our people off of New Caprica. Look around you. Take a good look at the men and women that stand next to you. Remember their faces, for one day you will tell your children and your grandchildren that you served with such men and women as the universe has never seen. And together you accomplished a feat that will be told and retold down through the ages, and find immortality as only the Gods once knew. I'm proud to serve with you. Good hunting.

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==

*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Tyrol]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]] (credit only)
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Amanda Plummer]] as [[Oracle]] [[Selloi Dodona|Selloi]]
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
*[[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Cottle]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
*[[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Cavil]]
*[[Erica Cerra]] as [[Maya]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
*[[Brad Dryborough]] as Lt. [[Hoshi]]
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
*[[Madeline Parker]] as [[Kacey]]
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman|James "Jammer" Lyman]]
*[[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]
*[[imdb:nm0669826|Eileen Pedde]] as [[Mathias]]
*[[imdb:nm0356501|Jennifer Halley]] as [[Seelix]]
*[[imdb:nm0730455|Ryan Robbins]] as [[Connor]]

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Precipice

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| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
| writer= [[Ronald D. Moore]]
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| rating= 1.8
| US airdate= 2006-10-06
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== Overview ==
:''After the suicide bombing, the [[Cylons (RDM) |Cylons]] institute stricter controls on the human population on [[New Caprica]]. Aboard ''[[Galactica]]'', plans for the rescue from New Caprica move forward now that communication with the [[New Caprica Resistance|resistance]] has been established.''

== Summary ==
*[[Gaius Baltar]] ostensibly has [[Laura Roslin]] detained in a cell. He discusses the suicide bombings, after which he releases her.
*After [[Duck]]'s suicide bombing in an effort to kill Baltar, the Cylons round up random civilians, including [[Cally Tyrol]].
*The [[Leoben Conoy|Leoben copy]] that has imprisoned [[Kara Thrace]] introduces her to [[Kacey]], supposedly [[Hera|another]] Cylon-human hybrid fertilized by this Cylon's consciousness and using Thrace's [[The Farm|egg from her stolen ovary]]. Thrace immediately treats it as an "it."
*[[Felix Gaeta]] continues to give information to the resistance, although [[Galen Tyrol]] is unaware that Gaeta is his source. Tyrol believes Gaeta is a collaborator.
*Tyrol talks to Jammer about the situation with [[Cally Tyrol|his wife]], believing that people such as himself and Jammer will be lauded, while people like Gaeta will be strung up, causing feelings of regret in Jammer for his secret Cylon collaboration as an [[NCP]] member.
*Jammer asks [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] to release Cally Tyrol from prison. Boomer claims bureaucracy prevents her, but later visits Tyrol. [[Resistance (episode)|Their history]] only makes matters worse.
*Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] swears in [[Sharon Agathon]] as a Colonial officer and sends her to New Caprica as the resistance liaison. Commander [[Lee Adama]] objects to most of the plan, and is generally ignored by the planning team.
*Later, Commander Adama tries to convince his father that risking what's left of mankind to save those on New Caprica wasn't a call the admiral could make. Admiral Adama tells his son that he can stay with the Fleet with ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' on guard, but that he and ''Galactica'' must try to rescue the New Capricans.
*[[Saul Tigh]], Chief Tyrol, and [[Samuel Anders]] decide to meet Agathon at [[Breeders Canyon]].
*[[Ellen Tigh]], threatened with more harm to her husband, tips off the Cylons to the rendezvous.
*Another damaging suicide bombing moves the Cylons to more drastic actions.
*The Cylons force Baltar to sign an execution order, at gunpoint, for 200 civilians, including [[Cally Tyrol]], Roslin and [[Tom Zarek]]. [[Caprica-Six]] is shot by a [[Five]] while protesting against the order. The detainees are transported outside the city.
*Kara Thrace continues to ignore Kacey in the apartment. When Thrace leaves to another room, she returns to find the child motionless in a pool of blood.
*As Kacey awakens in a hospital, Thrace is overjoyed, and takes Conoy's hand.
*After the truck of detainees stops and releases the prisoners to "stretch their legs," a masked [[Jammer]] cuts Cally Tyrol's bonds and tells her to run. As as she gets away, [[Cylon Centurion]]s appear to execute the detainees.
*Zarek pulls Roslin away from the front of the crowd.
*As Cally Tyrol runs through the forest, the sound of automatic gunfire rings out.
*After Sharon Agathon and Anders' teams meet and formulate their plans, they are soon ambushed by Centurions.

== Questions ==

*If [[Sharon Agathon]] is killed during her mission on [[New Caprica]], will she be able to download into a new body?
**While download is likely, Agathon would be immediately kept as an intelligence source.
*Where will [[Cally Tyrol]] be able to run to? She was ordered to face execution by the Colonial Government.
**Returning to the colony is probable, keeping out of sight, probably in the underground bunker where the [[wireless]] comm center is located.
*Why did the Cylons abandon their plan for a public execution?
**A public execution might have made matters worse, while [[Wikipedia:Forced disappearance|"disappearances"]] would allow for both an effective threat and plausible deniability.
*If viewers are to assume that the gunfire at the end of the episode is not from the Centurions, then who is firing? ([[Exodus, Part I|Answer]])
*Is Gaeta showing rather unusual behavior? If so, how much will his role as "inside man" be affected?
**Gaeta is witnessing the oppression of humanity at the highest level from a man he once admired. It is probable that Gaeta's stress level is [[Flight of the Phoenix|again affecting his behavior]].
*What is the role of the five unseen Cylon models in the occupation? Are they present and simply remaining off-camera for the benefit of the audience? Have they attempted to hide themselves from the Colonials?
**{{spoilli|According to interviews with Grace Park, Dean Stockwell, and Tricia Helfer, the remaining Cylons are so secret that even the seven models known to the audience don't know who the last five are. See the Talk article for more information.}}
**{{spoilli|According to an [http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30381 interview] with Aaron Douglas and Tamoh Penikett, the remaining five models may have all been [[Boxing|boxed]].}}
**It's also concievable that the Cylon are divided on the threat Humanity represents and the other 5 models believe they should be wiped out, or have there own seperate agendas like Leoben
*Why do no Leoben Conoy copies attend the meeting on ''Colonial One'' regarding the execution order?
**Conoy's motives on New Caprica appear to be entirely selfish—he is there for Kara Thrace only. No other copies have been witnessed on New Caprica to date.
*[[Cally Tyrol]] and [[Sharon Agathon]] both took their husbands' names upon marriage, as did [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Caroline Adama]] and [[Sesha Abinell]]. Are [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Kara Thrace]] now Anastasia Adama, and Kara Anders, respectively?
*What is the relationship between Caprica-Six's shooting and the reappearance of [[Cylon-Related_Hallucinations#Baltar.27s_Internal_Six|Baltar's Internal Six]]?
**It is possible that two events are not directly related. The reappearance was not immediate, but happened after [[Number Five]] and [[Cavil]] continued to threaten Baltar with death. Since Caprica-Six's support was gone, Baltar was under severe stress and thought that he might likely die. Internal-Six has shown a tendency to appear at those times, especially if Baltar's survival is at stake.
*On the topic of internal manifestations, what happened to Caprica-Six's Internal-Baltar? Will he ever show himself again? Has he dissappeared much like his counterpart in Baltar, now that the real-world Baltar is in Caprica-Six's midst?
*Now that the Lt. Sharon Agathon has landed on the surface of New Caprica, how can she be distinguished from other [[Number Eight]]s there?
**Other than her [[flight suit]], it remains unclear how [[Sharon Agathon]] will be distinguished from other [[Number Eight]]s. Admiral Adama confirmed that Cylon Centurions are not sentient, and may take instruction from Agathon because of her true nature.
*How will ''humans'' identify Sharon Agathon should she ever leave their sight? How, for example, can she safely return to ''[[Galactica]]''?
**In "[[Exodus, Part I]]", she did not remove her dogtags when changing out of her flight suit. She may have kept them on as a means of identification.
*How did Jammer identify the particular Eight he talked to as "Boomer?"
**Initially, Jammer just calls [[Boomer-Eight]] the honorific "Sir." Its concievable that Boomer has certain characteristics from her time on ''Galactica'' that other Eights don't have, that give her away as Boomer-Eight.
*If the Centurions are incapable of distinguishing between individual copies of a model, why would they fire on Sharon Agathon, who should be just another Eight to them?
**Agathon's back was turned to the Centurions at the time before the shooting began. They may not have registered her presence in the group. Also, her Colonial-issue flight suit may have given her away. No "legitimate" Eight on New Caprica would need to wear one. Its also possible that the Centurions were given orders to shoot the Eight found with the human resistance at the given location. Keep in mind that, unlike the TOS Centurions, RDM Centurions do not talk. They simply take orders.
* Why didn't Duck tell Tyrol that Jammer had joined the New Caprica Police?
**He may not have known until the graduation ceremony, since the members of the police force are secretive about their identities. Duck was also under great stress and may not have been thinking clearly.
**It is also entirely possible that Jammer was in a different graduating class. Standard occupation doctrine involves training individual cadres to ensure that the entire force is not compromised by one individual.
*Did Kacey fall down the stairs or was she pushed?
*As Zarek wanted nothing to do with Baltar's puppet administration, who replaced him as Vice President?
**Given the potential for further dissidence and/or rebellion, did Baltar do away with the office of the Vice Presidency altogether?
*Given Zarek's imprisonment for four months, what of Zarek's various supporters? Do they still exist on New Caprica or on the ''[[Astral Queen]]''? If so, what of them?
*Is [[Kacey]] all that [[Leoben Conoy]] claims her to be?
**There is reason to believe that Conoy's claims are not true. As evidenced in the Miniseries and "[[Flesh and Bone]]," Conoy is a master manipulator specializing in lies, half-truths, misdirection, ommission and any other method he can think of to coerce people to do as he wants. Kacey could be an ordinary human. The farms were filled with male and female humans, so standard ''in vitro'' insemination is not improbable.
**The Cylon farms have had no success in procreation. Even if hybridization succeeded, it is unlikely that such a human/Cylon hybrid would be placed in such an unstable environment as they are highly valuable to the Cylons due to the astonishingly low success rate.
**[[Kacey]] seems significantly older than Hera/Isis, however, according to the [[Timeline_%28RDM%29|Timeline]] she has to be at least a month younger, if she is really Kara's daughter.
*Since Felix Gaeta is one of the top people in the Baltar administration (indeed, Baltar's staff seems to consist primarily of Felix Gaeta) and was once a Colonial officer, why does Tyrol not consider the possibility that Gaeta may be his inside source?

== Analysis ==
*Apparently a single Cylon agent copy can speak for his or her particular model<ref> The phrase "''We'' agree" is said by several models.</ref>. Interestingly, [[Caprica-Six]] fails to dissuade her "sisters" from voting to execute the dissidents.
**This consensus within the copies is done invisibly. Similar communication between Cylons of a single model has been witnessed in several prior episodes:
***In "[[The Farm]]", the copy of Simon which Kara Thrace encounters outside the facility shares the memories of the one she has recently killed, although insufficient time has passed for a resurrection of the type witnessed in "[[Downloaded]]".
***In "[[Home, Part II]]", [[Sharon Agathon|Caprica-Valerii]] reveals to Galen Tyrol that she has some of the Boomer copy's memories.
***At the start of "[[Occupation]]", the [[Cavil]] model interrogating with Saul Tigh knows of Ellen's work to free him.
**This contact is apparently strictly voluntary. According to Caprica-Sharon in "[[Home, Part I]]", "I'm not wired in. It doesn't work like that," and her presence on New Caprica is not considered a security hazard.
*As one of the Cavils notes, adherence to the Cylon creed has become increasingly perfunctory. The Cylons seek the President's signature as a mere formality.
*If [[Leoben Conoy]]'s story is true, [[Kacey]] can't be older than 16 months<ref>As of this episode, it has been about 27 months since the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|fall of the Colonies]]. Kara Thrace's incarceration at the [[Farms|Farm]] on Caprica took place about two months after the fall of the Colonies.</ref>.
*As Ellen Tigh's actions seem as reprehensible as ever, her motivations this time around are rather more laudable. These two episodes seem to indicate that she truly does care for her husband.
*Cavil informs Ellen Tigh that they released Saul Tigh so that he may continue leading the resistance, thereby ensuring attacks against the Cylons, such as the two bombings that followed his release. These bombings and their results reinforce Cavil's argument that instilling fear and exerting total control over the population is the only viable solution.
**It also might be possible that the release of Tigh might play into the faction of Cylons who continue to hold a strong prejudice towards humans. Caprica-Six and Boomer are clearly shown to be a diminishing voice amongst the Cylon leadership as evidenced when [[Number Five]] shot Caprica-Six in the head. This faction of Cylons may very well be attempting to destroy the experiment that Caprica-Six and Boommer convinced the Cylon population to undergo.
*The Cylons' condemnation to suicide bombings is strikingly hypocritical, in light of the fact that a [[Number Five]] used the same tactic after boarding ''Galactica'' in "[[Litmus]]."
*Following the bombing of the power station, the Cylon leadership conducts a meeting with Gaius Baltar on ''Colonial One''. The camera makes a full clockwise sweep, revealing in order:
**An Eight
**Boomer
**A Cavil
**A Five
**A Three
**Caprica-Six
**Another Cavil
**Another Three (identifies herself as the one killed by [[Caprica-Six]] in "[[Downloaded]]")
**A [[Simon]]
**Another Five
**Two more Sixes
*Cavil introduces the idea of "stronger measures". Assenting, in order, are the second Three, Simon, the second Five, and the last two Sixes. Caprica-Six dissents. Neither Boomer nor the other Eight are consulted. Not present are any copies of Leoben Conoy nor any of the unrevealed five models.

== Notes ==
*"[[Occupation]]/Precipice" was awarded the [[Awards and Honors|IGN.com Editor's choice award]], following a review in which it recieved a rating of 10/10.
*"Occupation" and "Precipice" were edited as one 2-hr episode with only one introduction. However, in the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] indicates the "beginning" of "Precipice" as the scene with Baltar and Roslin in the detention cell.
*In the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] states that references to "The Twist" and "The Swirl" are a homage to ''[[Wikipedia:Seinfeld |Seinfeld]]''. The episode in question is "[[Wikipedia:The Fusilli Jerry |The Fusilli Jerry]]."
*Felix Gaeta's given name, first revealed in "[[Final Cut]]," is spoken out loud for the first time.
*Caprica-Valerii has married Karl Agathon and taken his last name. She continues to be confined to her cell, but it has been decorated and furnished. Ironically enough, she still calls him "Helo."
*Sharon Agathon and William Adama have continued to develop the rapport which they established in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]."
*[[Number Three]]'s claim that Caprica-Six's assault on her was the first case of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in their history is false. The model known as Boomer destroyed an [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II|entire basestar filled with other Fives]], and there are several other incidents throughout the series.
*Ironically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six in the head shortly after Three's statement. Cavil indicates, however, that she won't be "boxed," as Caprica feared in "[[Downloaded]]."
*The same [[Number Three]] consciousness that is killed in "[[Downloaded]]" by Caprica-Six is present as well, referencing the incident; it is this same Three who questions Six regarding her love of Baltar.
*The apparent shooting of the captives at the end of the episode is a homage to ''[[Wikipedia:The Great Escape|The Great Escape]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Battle of the Bulge (film)|Battle of the Bulge]]''; especially the latter as it features a survivor's escaping in a similar manner to Cally Tyrol's.
*Baltar's Internal-Six appears only after Caprica-Six is shot in the head.
*This episode has the second highest number of guest stars. Only the [[Miniseries]] had more credited stars.
*[[Lee Adama]] stated that there were about 2000 civilians that were on board Fleet ships when they escaped New Caprica, which would mean that after accounting for an unspecified number of military personnel (and an unspecified number of said personnel that were left on New Caprica), at least 5500 people were killed in the destruction of [[Cloud 9]] as well as the other ships destroyed by the nuclear warhead in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]."
*Another four humans are killed in the suicide bombing at the power substation this episode. It is unknown whether or not this figure includes the bomber. Additionally, 23 Cylons are critically wounded; 14 of them are euthanized. Almost half the city is left without power, with repair estimates standing at a minimum of two weeks.
*We finally learn the role of [[Tom Zarek]] in the Baltar administration: he was indeed Baltar's running mate, and was elected Vice President in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]". (This was implied in the last three episodes of season two, but not stated explicitly). He refused to be party to the Cylon occupation and was detained shortly thereafter, until his execution was ordered in this episode.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Discussing suicide bombings:''
:'''Galen Tyrol''': This is crazy. You know, we need to figure out whose side we're on.
:'''Saul Tigh''': Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

*''After being arrested, held without charge and carted to a remote location:''
:'''Tom Zarek''': Laura.. That election last year. You tried to steal it, didn't you?
:'''Laura Roslin''': Yes, Tom. I did.
:'''Tom Zarek''': (laughs) Ah... I wish you'd gone through with it.
:'''Laura Roslin''': Me too.

*''Talking in a cell:''
:'''Cally''': ...frak you Sharon, you stupid frakked-up toaster. How many times do I have to shoot you anyway?

*''After being slapped by Roslin for accussing her of working for the Cylons:''
:'''Saul Tigh''': You see, little things like that they don't matter anymore. Fact, not too frakking much really matters anymore. I got one job here lady, and one job only. To disrupt the Cylons, make them worry about the ant hill they stirred up down here so they're distracted and out of position when the old man shows up in orbit. The bombings, they got the Cylons' attention, they really got their attention. And I am not giving that up.
:'''Laura Roslin''': We are talking about people blowing themselves up.
:'''Tigh''': You know, sometimes I think that you've got ice water in those veins. And other times, I just think that you're just a naive little school teacher. I've sent men on suicide missions in two wars now, and let me tell you something. It don't make a godsdamn bit of difference whether they're riding in a Viper or walking out onto a parade ground. In the end they're just as dead. (pauses) So, take your piety, and your moralizing, and your high-minded principles, and stick 'em somewhere safe until you're off the rock and sitting in your nice, cushy chair on Colonial One again. (stands) I've got a war to fight (leaves).

*''As the Cylons try to force Baltar to sign the execution order, following Number Five's shooting of Capirca-Six in the head:''
:'''Baltar''': Oh, God.
:'''Cavil''': She'll be back...
:'''Cavil''': ... but if he pulls that trigger now, you won't.

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally Tyrol]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
*[[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Cottle]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
*[[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Cavil]]
*[[Erica Cerra]] as [[Maya]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
*[[Christian Tessier]] as [[Tucker Clellan|Tucker "Duck" Clellan]]
*[[Brad Dryborough]] as Lt. [[Hoshi]]
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
*Madeleine Parker as [[Kacey]]
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman|James "Jammer" Lyman]]
*[[imdb:nm1773454|Mylène Dinh-Robic]] as Officer #1
*[[imdb:nm1468333|Ryan McDonell]] as Pilot #3
*[[imdb:nm0493171|Byron Lawson]] as Pilot #4
*[[imdb:nm0492687|Colin Lawrence]] as [[Hamish McCall|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]]
*[[imdb:mm,1989989|Larissa Stadnichuk]] as Suicide bomber

== References ==
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==Abbreviations==
Here is the list of abbreviations I wrote for the ranks here. The enlisted ranks for Marines are still a little rough though, the "all caps" ranks are in the US Army style, others use lower case, eg Master Sergeant: MSG, MSgt.

Officer 
O-11 Fleet Admiral No abbrev., FAdm could work 
O-10 Admiral Adm 
O-9 Vice Admiral VAdm 
O-8 Rear Admiral RAdm 
O-7 Commander Cdr 
O-6 Colonel Col 
O-5 Major Maj 
O-4 Captain Capt 
O-3 Lieutenant Lt 
O-2 Lieutenant Junior Grade LtJG 
O-1 Ensign Ens 

Enlisted 
E-9 Master Chief Petty Officer MCPO 
E-8 Senior Chief Petty Officer SCPO 
E-7 Chief Petty Officer CPO 
E-6 Petty Officer 1st Class PO1 
E-5 Petty Officer 2nd Class PO2 
E-4 Petty Officer 3rd Class PO3 
E-3 Crewman CN (based on US Navy Seaman SN) 
E-2 Crewman Apprentice CA ("") 
E-1 Crewman Recruit CR ("") 

Marine 
E-9 Sergeant Major SGM 
E-8 Senior Master Sergeant/Master Sergeant SMSgt/MSG 
E-7 Master Sergeant/Sergeant 1st Class MSG/SFC 
E-6 Staff Sergeant SSG 
E-5 Sergeant SGT 
E-4 Corporal CPL 
E-3 Private 1st Class PFC 
E-2 Private 2nd Class PV2 
E-1 Private Recruit PVR 
--[[User:Talos|Talos]] 22:33, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

: I went ahead and formatted your post, Talos, so that it was easier to read. I don't think I broke anything, did I? Anyway, I think the all-caps ranks look loud. I know that's kind of an artifact of the internet, but still... I'd rather just cap the first letter of a word from an abbreviation. Thus "PFC" is fine because each of those are the first letter of a word. On the other hand, I'd rather "Sgt." than "SGT". Also, "Cpt." and "Cmdr." are more intuitive to me, but I don't know if I made those up or ''where'' they came from. --[[User:Day|Day]] 03:03, 15 September 2005 (EDT)
::Thanks for the formatting, that's how it was whem I typed it in notepad. I see how that works now. Like I said, the reason they are all caps is that it is based on the Army enlisted structure. I didn't go with the Marine Corps structure because it's missing the two ranks unique to the MC, Lance Corporal and Gunnery Sergeant. Here is a link about the US Military ranks: [http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/officers.html]. There is a link on top to the enlisted ranks. What is interesting is the way the US Navy O-6 rank's head is turned compared to the others. Also, Capt and Cdr are how the USN abbreviates Captain and Commander. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 07:00, 15 September 2005 (EDT)
:::I wanted to add something else, the CAPS are only used in forms, charts, etc. When written with the name it is normal case, so Hadrian,... Rank: SGT, but ...Sgt. Hadrian. I can't believe I forgot this. I must be slipping. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:42, 15 September 2005 (EDT)

==Rank Pins==
The admiral pin as pictured on this picture is wrong. If you look at the super-duper-high-res promo shots, there's [http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000gds5y one of Adama]. His pin has two extra bars on the left side (towards the shoulder) and none towards the right. Perhaps the number of side bars denotes admiral grades. Maybe we should utilize those shots to have actual rank pics... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:38, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

:You should get permission to use "137th Gebirg"s rank chart. It's much better and more accurate: img503.imageshack.us/img503/8991/bsgranksnewv4et0.png
:The pins could also be cut out of that pic and used individually

:As for different Admiral ranks. In the extended Pegasus cut Adama refers to Cain as "Rear Admiral". At least he said that "she made Rear Admiral very quick" or something. But I guess that's her - and later his - rank at the point of the episode too. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:51, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
::What is werid is that the photos we have show a red color not a white for Admiral. Who's right? I go with the show anyday. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 10:56, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
::: You mean the trim of the uniform? A regulation Admiral's uniform like Cain's is white/gold. They didn't update Adama's unform, but I think it makes perfect sense to assume that they don't just happen to have spare Admiral's uniforms lying around. At least not in Adama's size. 
:::Btw, I think you can't see the other side of the pin because of the angle. When they were presented to him in the case they were symmetrical --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:01, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Aaah. Gotcha. Think you're right on that. Perspective... very tricky. Good eye, Serenity. Oh, and there's stuff about the piping on the [[Uniforms (RDM)]] page (though if THAT'S wrong, we should change it too). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:09, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::With what we've seen on the show, the piping info on the uniform page is correct. I also think we should ask Gebirg to use his rank images, t2hey are dead on. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:15, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::The uniform page is right. People just get confused because Adama is still wearing his commander uniform, while Lee got a new one. Look at pics of Adm. Cain and you'll see that hers is white/gold. Noticable when she steps off the Raptor for example. This [http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8991/bsgranksnewv4et0.png rank chart] is as accurate as it gets considering all available information --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:17, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::I'm leery of using this rank/pin chart, because the creator admits to using unofficial fan-made props and insignia, so we don't know how much "fanon" is actually on that chart... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:46, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::The conjectural designs are marked as such, and you don't have to use them if you cut it into smaller pieces. The rest is depicted as seen on screen from everything I can tell, and I've been paying attention to that lately --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:51, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

:With regards to Adama's rank pin, I'm inclined to agree with the notion that the "bars" on the side of the "Admiral" pins denote the level of Admiralty. Adama's has three distinct bars, clearly visible during his conversation with Tigh about half an hour into "Sacrifice". If that was the case, it'd be:

*1 bar - Rear Admiral (lower half)
*2 bars - Rear Admiral (upper half)
*3 bars - Vice Admiral
*4 bars - Admiral
*5 bars - Fleet Admiral

So that would make Adama a Vice Admiral? Thoughts? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 13:06, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

::Maybe. They could also add additional stuff on the gold plate. Like some additional silver. Anyways, I think he's a Rear Admiral: 
1.) see the [http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8991/bsgranksnewv4et0.png rank chart]: two gold bars 
2.) in the Extended Cut of "Pegasus" Adama says about Cain "she made Rear Admiral very fast". While he could just have meant her first flag rank, that could also refer to her current rank. And they have indentical insignia. Interpretation here is highly subjective I guess. 
3.) ''Galactica'''s Dradis shows 2 stars next to ''Pegasus'' which some believe means a 2-star admiral. But I can't find the picture atm. Todays "two stars" could be the same as the two bars on the pins
--[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:24, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Well, I just went to the Season 3 promo pics and Adama's insignia does show what looks like three bent vertical bars on each side. This is a pic of the pin. [http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8607/adaadmpintn7.jpg Adama Rank Pin]
:::This could prove interesting if Cain was a two star Admiral like the Dradis screenshot implies, since Roslin would have promoted Adama above Cain. I'm looking for that Dradis pic right now. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:39, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
::::I think what you see as the inner bar there is just the silver plate behind the diamond that's actually ''above'' the gold plate with two bars. In-universe wise I think they only made one insignia and gave Adama the same one as Cain. I still wonder why Billy went to jeweler instead of just giving him Cain's pins. Or maybe he lied because that would have been somewhat morbid ;) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:45, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::If Roslin '''did''' promote Adama to Vice Admiral, that would explain why they had to go to a jeweler- using Cain's Rear Admirla pins as a reference to get a set of Vice Admiral pins made? Besides, in "Sacrifice", and the above pic of Adama's pin, the "bars" look to be seperated by distinct colour, as opposed to the first part being a silver plate? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 14:04, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::For me it looks like the bars are seperated by small indentations, which would create darker shadows in bad lighting. I also think Adama's and Cain's insignia look the same. But if you have any clear pics to the contrary... --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:15, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::Okay, just went over the final scene of Res Ship pt II, where Roslin gives Adama his new rank pins, and they do indeed appear to have a silver plate, with a larger gold plate behind it. So, Serenity, it would appear that I'm wrong and you're right, as a gold plate with two "bars" separated by a small indentation- along with the smaller silver plate- would give the appearance of three distinct "bars" under certain lighting. I can't get screenshots at the moment, but will post some later tonight if anyone wants confirmation- but I move that Adama's rank be clarified as Rear Admiral, upper. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 07:08, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::::Ok, I'll go ahead and do the change and also give some reasons for the definition (2 bars = 2 stars on Dradis, comment in Extended Pegasus cut, Adama and Cain with same insignia.) Could you have a look at my rank pin proposal below? --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:18, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

:::::Bingo, found the dradis pic. Hmm, if there are only two bars, and two stars on the screen.... --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:47, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
[[Image:GalPegDradis.JPG|thumb|right|Galactica/Pegasus Dradis screens.]]
::::::Well...today a two-star Admiral is a Rear Admiral UH. That would also fit with Adama's "Rear Admiral" comment (see point 2). Maybe wait for some other opinions before editing anything --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:00, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j81/steel_viper/BSG/promopin.jpg
:::::::I know the angle on this shot is funky (and I keep going back to it because it's so high-res), but I agree that the "third" vertical bar appears to actually be the silver part of the Commander insignia, with the outer two being the actual "gold" bars (presumably distinguishing the degree of "admiralness"). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:04, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::::The silver plate is already there on the Commander pin. Basically the Admiral insignia are Commander pins on a gold plate of variable size. I don' t know if having 4 or 5 bars on each side is practical though. So maybe there is some additional bling for the highest Admirals --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:09, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

As detailed below something needs to be done about the rank pins depicted. They are completely wrong. To be honest, I don't see how someone can object to conjectural designs, given that the ones used now are also conjectural and even the ones shown on TV are sometimes entirely wrong (see below). 
Another possibility would be to make some screencaptures from the show. I could point you towards some good scenes to get caps of Admiral or Major for example. But that's probably more work for a worse result than using such artwork. 
If there is really such concern about conjectural designs, we can only use the ones clearly established on the show, by cutting "137th Gebirg"'s chart apart. I did so with one pin to demonstrate what I mean and uploaded it to my own webspace for now: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/8-4-7-2/BSG/BSGRankExample.jpg Captain's inignia]. Before including them in the main article I'd ask for his permission of course 
Opinions?

Errors in rank pins:
*Admiral has two gold "bars" with a silver plate between that and the diamond
*Commander's silver plate is not just on the top half
*Colonel doesn't have any trimming on the diamond's upper half
*Major actually looks like the Captain pin depicted here
*Captain only has two chevrons
*The PO insignia is "PO 1st class" (seen on Sgt. Hadrian). "PO 2nd class" is missing completely
*The thingy inside the diamond of "specialist" is far larger
--[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

:I agree with you Serenity- that rank chart, cut apart as per your example, is probably the best way forward. They seem to be the most accurate example of the rank pins we've found without taking screengrabs (which, you've noted, isn't really the best way to go about it- I'll refer you all to our recent discussion regarding Adama's Admiral pins :P ) The remind me a lot of Steve Marriot's Star Trek rank graphics (Tango Fleet pbem).

Hell, if "137th Gebirg" agrees (and no-one has any major objections to using conjectural designs), we could even ask him to throw together some pics for the other Admiralty ranks? And could this be a good basis for a [[BW:OC]] question? "Is Adama a Rear-Admiral?" or something? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:02, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

:Good news everyone! I got his permission and already updated the page. This is only a first draft. I'll do some more cosmetic formatting, explinations and of course the crediting.
:I might also upload new pictures because some of the cutouts are off by a few pixels.
:Unfortunately I broke the table in the process. It's shown at the bottom and not under "insignia" /o\
:Plzfix! :) I'm no expert with tables. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:10, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

::Awesome! Looks sharp! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:14, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Pics with bright lines at the bottom have been replaced. Looks a bit better now. I tried centering the ranks on the pictures but that didn't work despite using "align=center" on both. Maybe someone who's better at tables wants to try, but it's not really important --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:51, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

== General update of the page ==

When we have come to a consensus about Adama's rank, the page need to be updated. Right now it lists Adama as Commander. 
Footnote 2 could be replaced with Adama's "Rear Admiral" comment. While he didn't state her current rank with 100% certainty it's an indication. Or do an additional footnote about it. 
Footnote 3 which now gives some arguments about his Commander rank could then include reasons for fixing his Admiral rank at "Rear Admiral" or "Vice Admiral" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:10, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

And I've come to realize, that it needs huge overhaul: 
1.) Not only Adama's rank needs to be updated, but also Lee's. Dualla as well I guess. She's now an LT 
2.) Is it really necessary to have a comparison with Air Force and Marines too? IMO modern Navy is enough. The Marines don't play a huge role on the show 
3.) The enlisted ranks are wrong. They go Recruit -> Deckand -> Specialist. No "apprentice" there 
4.) [[Prosna]] is listed as "specialist" on his site, but here as "apprentice/deckhand". I think specialist is correct 
5.) The rank chart doesn't even list "Petty Officer, 2nd class" despite it being displayed prominently with Dualla 

All in all, the article is almost more about equating BSG ranks with real life US military ranks than documenting the ranks within the BSG universe. Some of that can be retained, but maybe it should be dialed back a bit.

For now I cleaned up the rank comparisons and updated and changed some example ranks. I left out Admiral Adama's rank as per ongoing discussion above --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:20, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
:Any time you list ranks of living characters you put yourself at risk of having obsolete information. Since there is still a lot of potential for ranks to shift around a lot, perhaps we could try to target dead or unused characters for the examples. Or, perhaps as an alternative there could be some sort of reminder on the pages of all characters used as examples here that they are on this page, so that when their rank is updated on their character article the editor can be reminded to propagate the change to this page as well. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:50, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::Yeah, I'm aware of that and I'll change the page if and when new promotions come. I still left Dualla as PO2, but indicated that this it was her rank in season 1 and 2, since she's the only example of that rank. I put Adama at Rear Admiral now and gave the reasons for it. That was a bit harder since it' s debatable. Though there were errors in it that were apparent in season 1 already. Like listing Sharon as full LT. But the character examples are really the least problem of the article, even if a focused a lot on it here. The rank pin pictures need to be updated. Look a bit further above

::Btw, shouldn't the older entries here be archived? The page is getting rather long (>32kb) and bloated --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:04, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

:::Sounds like you're on it. The rear admiral (with justification) sounds good. I think it was noteworthy enough that she made that rank at her young age. To have gotten promoted above that would likely have been noteworthy (and noted in further dialogue). As for the rank pics, I think everybody would be happy if you could manage to get gebirg's permission to hack his beautiful work to pieces to be placed into the article. As for the archive... done. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:21, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

== Ensign? ==

All this discussion of rank pins has me looking through all my BSG stuff now... and I noticed something. It doesn't look like Ensign Davis wears any kind of pin on her collar ([[Hand of God]]). Anyone think otherwise? 

PS: Can anyone help me out with regards to screencapping from DVD's? All I can do at the moment is cap from poor-quality avi/mpeg files :( --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:24, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:For DVD capping I use [http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ VLC]. It works fine (it kicks out files in png format, I think). My biggest gripe about it is a lack of "frame by frame", since the way that VLC reads the data renders the concept of "frames" meaningless, apparently (or there's some other technical reason why it doesn't do it). Hopefully our screencap gurus might weigh in (Talos, FordSierra, etc). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:29, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

Either she doesn't wear one or it can't be seen from the angle. I don't think the prop departement even made Ensign pins. Some nuggets in "Scar" are called Ensigns but they wear LT pins.
A comment by Bradley Thompson in the Official Communiques doesn't list the Ensign rank either. ("the sketches I've seen don't yet carry the ensign rank designator")
Interestingly, he lists Lt.Col. and that one doesn't show up in RDM's blog. But that entry is over one year old and shouldn't be considered the absolute authority. Ideas of the writers might have changed now --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:39, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

== Gold Bars ==

Yes, it's me again :) Just a thought- if the Commander rank is the equivalent to Rear Admiral (lower), and the Admiral ranks have gold bars on them surely the Cdr rank pin should have a single gold bar?

Or, perhaps, Commander is in fact equivalent to Captain? This would move the other ranks down the list, meaning Ensign would be perhaps a probationary rank? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 13:26, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Well, yeah. I/we argued that RA is a two-star Admiral, but there isn't really a one-star Admiral. Unless CF also uses that Upper Half/Lower Half nonsense, and Adama went straight to UH.
:But I think it's just best to not equate BSG ''excactly'' with the US Navy. Those comparisons serve as a rough analogy, but they shouldn't be taken too seriously IMHO --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:39, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::I could see Commander being a RALH or Commodore equivalent. Of course, RDM was in the Navy and took a lot of stuff from that (snipes for example) and put it into BSG. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 15:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:::NROTC, I believe. (He mentions it in one of the podcasts.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:20, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::::He actually wanted to join the Marines, but the USMC technically belongs to the Navy. See [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2006/04/#a000525 this] blog entry --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:32, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::That's what I was talking about. Speaking as an current Army ROTC cadet, he was pretty much in the Navy. :) --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 15:37, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::Well even after my Army ROTC experience (I think I may have left something about that on your talk page), I wouldn't really say I was "in" the Army... but I know what you mean. RDM did spend some time on a frigate (USS W.S. Sims), though it's hard to tell when it's military stuff coming from RDM vs. Bradley & Thompson or the military technical advisor, etc. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:49, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Or if we stick with Adama and Cain as Rear Admirals (which we should for now), then maybe Commander used to be a one-star rank, but the Colonial military doesn't count it as full flag rank anymore for whatever reason (maybe a restructuring in the command structure of the BSGroups). So their flag officers start with two stars/bars. If there is even anything to the number of bars. That UH/LF business only exists since about 50 years ago. While the BSG rank structure is very similar to today's, I see no reason why there couldn't be slight changes. I know that Commander is listed as flag rank on the list, but that's really to line it up the with the US Navy ranks and the footnote explains that it could go either way --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

== Assumptions ==

*"It is assumed that [[Nagala|Nagala's]] given rank of Admiral ([[Miniseries]]) equates to that of Admiral in the US Navy. However, when he took personal command of the Colonial Fleet following the [[Cylon Attack]] ([[Miniseries]]), it is assumed he adopted the (war time) role of Fleet Admiral." This seems like an arbitrary assumption. Why do we assume this?

*"Helo states his rank as "Lieutenant, Junior Grade" in "33", but he consistantly wears the rank insignia of a full Lieutenant." This seems a little backwards—doesn't spoken dialogue take precedence over our assumptions of how the insignia work?

[[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 19:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

:This page, like the [[Cylon agent speculation]] page are assuming pages mostly based on visual evidence. There are no "defience" time periods of the ranks because of prop errors. For now, I am reverting your edits while we discuss this more. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:05, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

::Um, the promotions of Starbuck, Apollo, Adama, et. al are all established in dialogue. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 01:29, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
:I'll take one error in dialogue over 30+ errors in costuming any day of the week. And how the rank insignia work isnt an "assumption". It's fact. From the show alone you can deduce that "short chevron" means Lt.jg. And Bradley Thompson confirmed that in the BW:OC !
:The Nagala thing is more in the realm of fantasy and I didn't write that. It's save to remove I guess, but the Helo point make sense, and there is a long-term conflict that needs to be resolved some way.
:As for the promotions of the characters. Listing them under all or at least 2 ranks they held probably makes the most sense. Saying that Lee was a Major in "The Captain's Hand" would maybe a bit much. What about specifying the episode of the promotion just by number? Like "Episode 2x11" for "Resurrection Ship, I". That's usually shorter than writing out the episode and can be linkified too. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 04:14, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
::I am going to be reverting again, but if they are placed, it should be inside the ref tags. I still don't see a reason to list the episodes of when they were this rank. Rank changes through out the show. That's why under the credits we don't [[BW:SAC#Quote_of_the_Day|wiki link the rank]] with the character name because if there rank does change, without any dialog. Will this is not policy, it's clearly shown in the QOD guidelines that it does not happen. [[Season_1_%282004-05%29#Stars]], [[Season_2_%282005-06%29#Stars]], and [[Season_3_%282006-07%29#Stars]] all do not have the rank because it changes without notice. Putting any hard examples in on a rank page, even with "Miniseris to Season 2.5" (Which doesn't mean anything to UK viewers) doesn't mean the on-screen evidence ([[BW:CITE#Acceptable_Sources]]) That's why we ask questions to the cast and sometimes other people interview cast members as way to find out their rank. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 05:07, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Alright. It makes perfect sense to not mention the ranks all over the Wiki, but concentrate it in one place like a character page where it can be easily change. So we'll just go by last established rank here? I think having reference tags for every promotion clutters things up too much.
:::An exception I'd like to make is Dualla since she's the only example of a PO2.
:::But just to make it clear, it's alright to make arguments and deductions about ranks (like Helo or Sgt. Hadrian) as long as they are clearly marked as such? In the first paragraph it's said that some things are assumed and the footnoots are worded with qualifiers and in the conditional as well. They aren't just wild assumptions but list some evidence for the decisions. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:26, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Like the first paragraph says, this is just clearly examples assumputions. Charaecter pages are the best place to track rank and to list it. Who knows, it might be wrong because William Adama could be the Fleet Admiril. Going to wait on the revert but I think I said what I wanted to say. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 05:38, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::Despite the attempts for the writers and costumers to get the details right, folks, they '''are''' going to make inconsistencies. If I had my preference, we would stick to dialogue and command protocol to establish this, and not nitpick the details of each subrank. Keep in mind that this is a TV show, please. Try to glean the most likely information, but, because of the nature of the show, please realize we aren't going to get precise information. This may be a Official Communiques question for help in understanding, rather than excessive debate. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:05, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, excessive arguing shouldn't be the point, and I'm content to leave the page as it is concerning explanations for ranks. Most of the ranks are clearly established and more justifications aren't necessary. And yes, they make errors, but those errors can also be in dialogue. I don't see why one snippet of dialogue should get preference when he's clearly wearing "Lieutenant, Senior Grade" pips in ''all'' episodes. Just by logic a longer chevron means a higher rank, and Mr. Thompson confirmed the meaning of the Officer insignia already. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:26, 19 September 2006 (CDT)

OK, Helo aside, I still think we should retain the multiple examples per character. While it's true that Adama is currently an admiral, Lee is currently a commander, and Starbuck is currently a captain, they were a commander, captain, and lieutenant (respectively) throughout most of the show. Commander Adama throughout the first season and a half is a better example of a commander than, for instance, Garner (who was a commander for one episode) or Apollo (who was a commander for only a handful of episodes, and didn't even appear in all of them). Apollo was a captain almost continuously until "The Captain's Hand", while Starbuck has only been a Captain for half a season. By the same token, it's not worthwhile to mention Apollo's stints as Lieutenant and Major. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 15:08, 19 September 2006 (CDT)

== USAF? ==

As forewarning, this may not of the strictest relevance here. Watching "[[Black Market]]", the scene where Captain [[Lee Adama|Adama]] initially confronts Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] shows what would be called a "shadow box" by today's military behind Lee's shoulder on Tigh's wall. The shadow box contains what are plainly three rank insignia from today's [[Wikipedia:United States Air Force|US Air Force]]: [[Wikipedia:Airman#United States Air Force|Airman (E-2)]], [[Wikipedia:Senior Airman|Senior Airman (E-4)]], and [[Wikipedia:Staff_Sergeant#United_States|Staff Sergeant (E-5)]].

This presents us with ''two'' distinct problems. This first of which is the appearance of obviously modern, 21st century, military rank insignia from [[Earth]] on Tigh's wall.

The second being if the item on his wall was ''meant'' to be a shadow box. Shadow boxes are typically given when somebody separates from today's military as recognition of their accomplishments while on military service; in fact, several other unidentifiable (by myself) patches and accoutrements appear in the box. Furthermore, all three of those insignia are ''enlisted'' ranks, whereas Tigh is a high-ranking officer. Was Tigh prior enlisted, separated/retired, and later commissioned as an officer? Was ... [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen]] perhaps prior enlisted, and later separated or retired?

Lastly, as a disclaimer against my possible ignorance: "Black Market" is currently as far along the series as I have watched - and I have been meticulously avoiding spoilers on this wiki until I have caught up with the live airings. — '''[[User:pd_THOR|pd_THOR]]''' |''' [[User_talk:pd_THOR|=/\=]]''' 09:08, 9 October 2006 (CDT)

Flesh and Bone

2006-10-09T12:38:13Z

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{{Episode Data
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| title=Flesh and Bone
| series=
| season=1
| episode=8
| guests=
| writer=[[Toni Graphia]]
| story=
| director=[[Brad Turner]]
| production=108
| rating=
| US airdate=2005-02-25
| UK airdate=2004-12-06
| dvd= {{Season 1 NTSC DVD release date}} '''US''' {{Season 1 PAL DVD release date}} '''UK'''
| population=
| prev=[[Six Degrees of Separation]]
| next=[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down|Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]
}}

== Overview ==

: ''When a copy of [[Leoben Conoy]] is captured aboard a civilian ship, [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] orders he is to be interrogated, and [[Kara Thrace|Lieutenant Thrace]] is assigned the job. She finds herself facing the possibility that Conoy may have planted a bomb somewhere in the fleet.''

== Summary ==
* [[Laura Roslin]] has a [[Chamalla]]-induced dream in which she sees [[Leoben Conoy]]. She is awakened by [[Billy Keikeya|Billy]], who informs her a [[Cylon agent]] has been captured aboard the ''[[Gemenon Traveler]]''.
* The Cylon turns out to be Leoben Conoy, and while [[William Adama|Adama]] wants him destroyed, Roslin insists he is interrogated.
* [[Kara Thrace]] is assigned the interrogation task. Meeting with her, Adama warns her that Conoy cannot be trusted. Not that he lies, but rather he twists everything into half-truths and masks fiction with the veneer of truth.
* They briefly discuss the [[Cylon Raider]] Starbuck is still working on ([[You Can’t Go Home Again]], [[Six Degrees of Separation]]), and Starbuck informs him good progress is being made: the avionics are now understood, and they are focusing on the [[FTL]] systems.
* Later, [[Sharon Valerii]] visits the Raider for a second time (the first being in [[Six Degrees of Separation]]), and appears to comfort it by humming.
* [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] arrives, and she asks if her previous comments help. He confirms they did, and asks how she came up with the idea. She claims it’s because she’s a Cylon -- something Tyrol doesn’t find remotely funny.
* Elsewhere, Thrace travels by Raptor to the ''Gemenon Traveler''. Once there, she observes Conoy, noting that he is sweating, before she enters the room in which he is being held, wanting to know what he is doing with his head on the table.
* Conoy claims to have been praying. Their religious differences are immediately outlined as she refers to “gods”, he to “God”.
* When he starts playing games with her over names, she tries to walk out – and Conoy reveals he knows who she is, which stops her. He then claims to have hidden a nuclear warhead somewhere in the fleet, which will go off in just under nine hours.
* Shaken by the fact he knows her name, Starbuck reports the news on the bomb to Adama and Roslin. Adama orders [[Radiological Alarm|radiological]] searches to be made aboard all ships and tries to reassure Starbuck that Conoy could have learned her name from anywhere.
* When she returns to the holding area, Conoy continues to question her about her beliefs, outlining the key difference between humans and their religion and Cylons. A meal arrives for Starbuck and she eats, allowing Conoy to finish what is left.
* As he finishes the food, a systematic beating commences, Starbuck convinced that because he is programmed to act completely like a human, Conoy will be forced to react like a human, take the beating until the pain forces him to start talking.
* As this starts, Boomer visits [[Gaius Baltar]] in his lab and demands he runs a test on her to determine whether or not she is human. Baltar is reluctant to do so, but [[Number Six|Six]] prompts him into doing it.
* Conoy’s beating fails to get him to talk about the bomb, only to talk more about God. As the subject of water has formed a lot of his analogies, Starbuck opts to up the torture by using it, and sends the guards from the room.
* When they are gone, Conoy demonstrates his supernatural strength, breaking the chains that bind his wrists and pins Thrace to the wall. He could kill her, but he doesn’t – he has something to tell her, soon. A surprise.
* On ''Galactica'', Adama visits the cadaver of the Conoy he encountered at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]), his rage almost causing him to beat the body with a telephone handset.
* On the ''Traveler'', Starbuck commences sessions that involve holding Conoy’s head underwater for increasingly lengthy periods to try and get him to talk – convinced that he is too far from Cylon influence to transfer his consciousness to another body, should this one die.
* Conoy talks – about Starbucks’s childhood and upbringing, demonstrating he somehow knows a lot about her. The dunkings continue.
* Baltar finishes a scan on a blood sample from Boomer – it confirms she is a Cylon. Terrified of what will happen if he tells her, he fakes the result to look human.
* In her private quarters on ''[[Colonial One]]'', Roslin has another vision of Conoy, prompting her to order a shuttle to take her to the ''Gemenon Traveler''.
* On the ''Traveler'', Starbuck halts the water torture and Conoy reveals his surprise to her: the humans will find [[Kobol]], and Kobol will lead them to [[Earth]]. What’s more, Starbuck’s specific role is to deliver his soul to God.
* At that moment, Roslin arrives and puts a stop to the torture, as it has failed to reveal the location of the bomb.
* When Conoy has been cleaned up and dried off, she tries to reason with him, and he confesses there is no bomb; grabbing her, he whispers that Adama is a Cylon.
* Shocked by this, but her mind made up, Roslin has him ejected into space – fulfilling the sequence of events in her dream.
* Later, on the ''Galactica'', Starbuck prays for Conoy’s soul, while Roslin meets with Adama, Conoy's words clearly having cast doubts deep in her mind.

===On Caprica===
* After sleeping with [[Karl Agathon|Helo]], [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Valerii]] meets with [[Aaron Doral|Doral]] and [[Number Six|Six]] and informs them of developments.
* Doral informs her that a little love nest is being set-up nearby. Six adds that she must lead Helo to it and keep him there – or kill him.
* Reacting to the instructions, Valerii returns to Helo – and goes on the run with him, leading him away from her Cylon colleagues.

== Questions ==
*Is Conoy's comment to [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] concerning [[Kobol]] meant personally - that ''she'' will find Kobol - or at least recognise it for what it really is? ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I|Apparently not]])
*How will Roslin react to Conoy's claim about Adama? She has already demonstrated a willingness to readily accept the worst about a person without proof (her reaction to [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar's]] situation in [[Six Degrees of Separation]]). ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down|Answer]])
*Why is love so vital to the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]? ([[The Farm|Answer]], plus Cylons believe that "God is love")
*Was [[Troy]] destroyed in an genuine accident, making it a convenient "cover" for the Cylons to create [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer's]] "history", or were they responsible for the destruction of the colony? (A moot question since [[Cylon agent#Ron Moore elaborates on the twelve models|Sharon Valerii was never an actual human]])
*Other than [[Silica Pathways]] and the substance discovered by Gaius Baltar in the cremation process of the genetic material of a [[Cylon agent]], are there any other major differences between them and humans? (Answer: They have super-strength, as shown in the Miniseries and this episode, [[Flight of the Phoenix|an ability to interface their bodies with electronic devices]], and [[Epiphanies|a different blood structure]])
*Why does Roslin run towards [[Leoben Conoy|Leoben]] and away from the [[Marines]] in her dream? She already knows what he looks like from the press conference in [[Litmus]].

== Analysis ==
*Do Leoben and the Cylons trully posses powers of prophesy?
**As Adama points out, he could have just gained all of the information he gave from available sources, and made the logical prediction that ''Galactica'' would reach Kobol, as it was headed in that direction.
***Have the Cylons known of Kobol for some time?
*Originally, many might have labeled ''Galactica''-Sharon the "Good" Sharon and Caprica-Sharon the "Bad" Sharon. However, actress Grace Park has repeatedly said she never viewed one or the other as good or bad, and in this episode Caprica-Sharon switches from helping the Cylons, to actually aiding Helo and switching to the Colonials' side. Meanwhile, by the end of Season 1 ''Galactica''-Sharon becomes an increasingly darker character.

== Notes ==
*This episode takes place within 24 hours of those portrayed in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]".
*Doctor [[Cottle]] has apparently been successful in his quest for Chamalla – Roslin is now using it in her fight against cancer.
*There are 47,954 survivors in the Fleet, presumably including ''Galactica’s'' crew, as the figure has fluctuated between 45,000 and 50,000 over the past few weeks in rounded figures. This represents a net loss of 18 since "33", with doubtlessly uncertain census counts throughout the interim.
*Laura Roslin may have precognition, and / or Cylons may be psychic.
*Boomer believes her family were all killed – together with almost her entire past in a “tragedy” that destroyed the colony of Troy.
*Baltar’s Cylon detector works. It takes "a couple of minutes" to process Boomer's sample.
*Baltar now knows Boomer is a Cylon.
*Leoben Conroy's execution via ejection from an airlock is relatively "unspectacular" compared to similar sequences in many Science Fiction films. Whether the decision not to show his death in a more gruesome fashion may owe as much to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_%26_Practices Broadcast Standards & Practices] as it does to scientific accuracy, it is at least more in line with what is known about human physiology and hard vacuum.
*At the beginning of this episode, Boomer is humming a melody when she touched the captured Cylon raider. The melody is from a Korean children's song, 'The spring pool on the mountain'.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Conoy to Starbuck, towards the end of his interrogation, just before Roslin's arrival:''

:'''Conoy:''' Each of us plays a role; each time a different role. Maybe the last time I was the interrogator and you were the prisoner. The players change, the story remains the same. And this time – this time – your role is to deliver my soul unto God. Do it for me. It’s your destiny. And mine. (He pauses) And I told you I had a surprise for you. Are you ready? You are going to find [[Kobol]], birthplace of us all. Kobol will lead you to Earth. This is my gift to you, Kara.

== Official Statements ==



== Guest stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]
*[[imdb:nm1775193|Christina Schild]] as [[Playa Kohn]]
*[[Biski Gugushe]] as [[Sekou Hamilton]]
*[[imdb:nm0107023|Eric Breker]] as Gemenon Traveller Captain

== External Links ==
[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season01/108/ "Flesh and Bone"] at scifi.com

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Litmus

2006-10-09T12:36:07Z

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{{Episode Data
| image =Litmus3.jpg
| title=Litmus
| series=
| season=1
| episode=6
| guests=
| writer=[[Jeff Vlaming]]
| story=
| director=[[Rod Hardy]]
| production=106
| rating=
| US airdate=2005-02-11
| UK airdate=2004-11-22
| dvd= {{Season 1 NTSC DVD release date}} '''US''' {{Season 1 PAL DVD release date}} '''UK'''
| population=
| prev=[[You Can't Go Home Again]]
| next=[[Six Degrees of Separation]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''When [[Aaron Doral]] turns up on ''[[Galactica]]'' and detonates a device made from the ship's own munitions, [[William Adama|Adama]] orders a full investigation - and [[Galen Tyrol]]'s relationship with [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] becomes the focus of the investigation.''

== Summary ==

* A group of civilians board ''[[Galactica]]''. As they make their way through the ship, one of them slips away to make his way through the ship on his own.
* Elsewhere, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] secretly meets with [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] after their relationship had been forbidden by [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]] ([[You Can’t Go Home Again]]) – they meet in the inspection space above the refurbished water tanks.
* The visitor to ''Galactica'' is seen and recognised by Tigh, who calls security. At the same time, he is seen and challenged by Commander [[William Adama|Adama]].
* Turning to face them, the visitor turns to reveal himself as a copy of [[Aaron Doral]] – suspected Cylon ([[Miniseries]]) – who has a bomb strapped to his chest, which he detonates – almost killing Adama and Tigh.
* With three people killed in the blast, Adama orders an investigation into how Doral got aboard and accessed ''Galactica’s'' munitions store, and places his [[Master-at-Arms]], Sergeant [[Hadrian]], in charge of what becomes a public inquiry.
* Interviewing [[hangar deck]] personnel, including [[Cally]] and [[Socinus]], Sergeant [[Hadrian]] latches on to the fact that she is given three different locations for Tyrol’s whereabouts during the time when Doral came aboard the ship, as the time coincides with the time Tyrol was meeting Boomer.
* At the same time, [[Laura Roslin]] holds a press conference, revealing the truth about [[Cylon agent]]s and releasing pictures of Doral and [[Leoben Conoy]]. The news is greeted with a stunned reaction throughout [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]].
* As a result of her investigations, Hadrian brings both Boomer and Tyrol before the board of inquiry for questioning.
* Boomer is questioned first – specifically about her relationship with Tyrol, which she claims has stopped on the orders of the [[XO]].
* Hadrian then focuses on Tyrol and his whereabouts at the time of the bombing, and Boomer claims she has no idea.
* Putting Tyrol on the stand, Hadrian focuses her questions around a hatchway that was left open – a hatchway he should have ensured was closed, and which lead directly to the small arms locker where the explosives had been stolen, and to which he had the access code.
* In response, Tyrol points out that several people have the access code to the locker – including Hadrian herself, who is also responsible for internal security aboard the ship.
* Hadrian challenges Tyrol as to whether Boomer may have left the hatch open. Remembering their meeting, in which she stated she had used the hatchway to avoid being seen on her way to him, Tyrol lies and states he has no idea.
* He is then challenged to explain why his claim to have been in his bunk at the time of the bombing is disputed by three of his own crew, who put him in different places, doing different things at the time Doral was aboard.
* When Hadrian accuses him of being a Cylon collaborator, Tyrol refuses to answer, citing his right to not self-incriminate himself under the [[Articles_of_Colonization|23rd Article of Colonization]].
* Specialist Socinus is next on the stand, and when he realizes his original statement has landed Tyrol in trouble, he changes his story: he actually left his post and went to the galley for food, using the companionway and hatch in question to get there.
* When challenged about the hatch, he admits he was the one who left it open, thus accidentally providing the Cylon with the means to get to the explosives.
* Hadrian still tries to involve Tyrol, demanding to know if he ordered Socinus to leave the hatch open. Socinus won’t be moved: he left the hatch open .
* In sickbay, [[Gaius Baltar]] visits [[Kara Thrace]], hoping to rekindle the attraction of their first card game (“[[Water]]”). She, however, is not in the mood. To get rid of him, she asks him about the bombing and whether he felt the Cylon was after his [[Cylon detector|super secret project]], which is located close to where the bomb went off.
* This scares Baltar to the point where he leaves Thrace alone, demanding to know from [[Number Six|Six]] as to why the Cylons are trying to kill him when he’s following her orders.
* Six points out the Cylon were probably after the detector – and that anyway, the Cylons don’t know about her and Baltar.
* With Socinus apparently the guilty party, Adama discusses the outcome of the inquiry with Roslin – when he is called before the board himself, where Hadrian comes close to building a picture of conspiracy rising all the way to Adama.
* Realizing things are out of hand, Adama calls a halt to things, confining Hadrian to her quarters and disbanding the board of inquiry.
* Roslin holds a second conference, issuing Socinus’ name and stating he has been removed from duty and placed in the brig for dereliction of duty.
* Hearing this, Tyrol goes to Adama to try and secure Socinus’ release. Instead, he is confronted by the truth: as a result of his unauthorized tryst with Boomer, he has created a poor example of leadership and can’t actually say where Socinus was or what he was doing. Socinus will remain in the brig.
* As a result, Tyrol meets with Boomer and ends their relationship. He then asks her if she left the suspect hatchway open the last time they met. She refuses to answer.

===On Caprica===
* [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] sets out to find his missing [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Sharon Valerii]].
* As a result of his decision, [[Number Six|Six]] gives Valerii a vicious beating to feign a fight with Cylons once he “finds” her.
* Helo later discovers a lone [[Cylon Centurion]] dragging a bound and apparently unconscious Valerii, whom he rescues.

== Questions ==
*Was Baltar's lab really Doral's intended target? The is no clear evidence of this - only a comment passed by Starbuck and seized upon by Six
*If Baltar's lab wasn't the target, where was Doral heading? [[CIC]]?
*Why did Hadrian fixate on the Tyrol / Boomer relationship? This line of questioning was distinct from her attempts to expose Tyrol as a "Cylon conspirator"
*Will the "outing" of Doral and Conoy really make Cylon activities within the Fleet that much more difficult? What of Six? Will it mean we'll see other models swing into action? ([[Flesh and Bone|Things do become tougher for Cylon operatives]])
*Why is the concept of love so important to the Cylons?
**Cylons believe that "God is love".

== Analysis ==
*According to [[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]], "Litmus" is a "cost saving episode", a pattern which happens several times on genre shows: the season premiere ([[33]]) is intentionally given a larger share of the special effects budget to try to attract new fans, but to balance this out an episode later in the season must involve little or no new special effects or new sets. Often these episodes are "filler", but "Litmus" strongly contributes to the ongoing storylines in the series and seems to have avoided these potential problems.
*This episode features the minor characters on the deck crew to a large degree, giving them scenes with actual substance. Their reactions show how the common people in the fleet are affected by the decisions of people at the "top", Roslin and Adama. Rather than being "redshirts" who do not appear again, these characters will continue to reappear throughout the season, demonstrating how the series features a large ensemble cast, and given time even many tertiary characters become fully fleshed out.

== Notes ==

*Some 24 hours have passed since the events of "[[You Can’t Go Home Again]]".
*There was at least one additional Doral in the Fleet.
*Underground activities are beginning to take place on ''Galactica'' – as shown by the creation of the still.
*Baltar’s Six claims not to be in contact with other Cylons in the fleet, but it is far from clear as to whether she is speaking the truth.
*Adama’s father was a civil liberties lawyer on Caprica.
*Adama has a hobby: constructing large models of sailing vessels.
*Baltar is now actively working on his [[Cylon detector]].
*Civilians routinely pass through ''Galactica''.
*Cultural oddity: when Adama sets down his glasses, a volume of the ''Reader's Digest Condensed Books'' series is clearly identifiable, including the ''Reader's Digest'' logo.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Adama, to Sergeant Hadrian and her Board of Inquiry:''
:'''Adama''': You’ve lost your way, Sergeant. You’ve lost sight of the purpose of the law: to protect its citizens, not persecute them. Whatever we are, whatever’s left of us – we’re better than that. Now these proceedings are closed. You’ll be transported back to your ships and we appreciate your help. 
:'''Board Chair''': This is an independent board. You have no power to close our inquiries. 
:'''Adama''': This is a witch-hunt. I will not have it aboard my ship.

*''Adama to Tyrol, after Socinus has been incarcerated:''
:'''Adama''': What I can’t do is I can’t let someone who wears this uniform get up on the witness stand and lie under oath. And that’s what your man did. He either lied the first time or he lied the second time. And it doesn’t matter. He’s guilty, and he’ll pay the price. You? You’ll pay a different price. You’ll have to walk out on that hangar every day knowing that one of your men is in the brig because you couldn’t keep your fly zipped. You are the most experienced non-commissioned officer we have left. You keep my planes flying. I need my planes to fly.

== Official Statements ==

* ''"Major question: it looks like discipline hasn't really improved on the ship in the first few episodes. In some ways, it's getting worse. Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] didn't help matters at all in "Litmus" when he essentially declared himself to be above the law. "''

:Security and discipline are definitely problems on ''[[Galactica]]'' and they're not going away. The ship was far from the best of the best at the time of its retirement and the people on board weren't either. The discipline was lax and many procedures had been allowed to fall by the wayside. Now, this ship and its crew are forced to operate far above what they considered to be the norm and it's not an easy transition for any of them.

:This was a deliberate creative choice. It's one thing for the finest ship, with the finest crew to deal with the end of the world and a long flight from a relentless enemy, it's quite another when you were just a bunch of people trying to get by. I find it a more challenging and interesting environment to tell stories in and I find these people more heroic in their actions just by the nature of the obstacles they have to overcome in their day to day existence. {{from_RDM_blog}}

== Guest stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Crewman Specialist [[Cally]]
*[[Jill Teed]] as Sergeant [[Hadrian]]
*[[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Cottle]]
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[Jammer]]
*[[Alonso Oyarzun]] as Specialist [[Socinus]]
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Constanza|Brendan "Hot Dog: Constanza]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]
*[[imdb:nm1631188|Nimet Kanji]] as [[Candace Myson]]
*[[imdb:nm1775193|Christina Schild]] as [[Playa Palacios]]
*[[Biski Gugushe]] as [[Sekou Hamilton]]
*[[imdb:nm1152963|Raahul Singh]] as [[Kimmit]]
*[[imdb:nm0535254|Shaw Madson]] as Marine Corporal
*[[imdb:nm0152113|Morris Chapdelaine]] as Reporter #2

== External Links ==
[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season01/106/ "Litmus"] at scifi.com

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:''This article details an episode of the [[Re-imagined Series]]. For information on the [[Original Series]] episode of the same name, see [[The Hand of God (TOS)]].''

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== Overview ==

: ''With the Fleet short of [[tylium|fuel]], ''[[Galactica]]'' launches a daring attack on a Cylon base.''

== Summary ==
* [[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]] is almost out of fuel, and ''[[Galactica]]'' has [[Raptor|Raptors]] out scouting nearby star systems to find tylium ore - if they don't, the fleet can make two more [[FTL|Jumps]] at best
* Aboard one of the Raptors, [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] and [[Crashdown]] find an asteroid filled with years worth of tylium ore — unfortunately, the Cylons found it first and have built a [[Cylon Refinery|refinery base]] on it.
* Faced with hoping to locate tylium elsewhere using their remaining supplies of fuel, or taking the asteroid from the Cylons, [[William Adama|Adama]] opts to attack the asteroid to take the tylium from the Cylons.
* On ''[[Colonial One]]'', [[Laura Roslin]] reveals she is being affected by taking [[Chamalla]] extract to [[Elosha]], having prescient visions – her dreams about [[Leoben Conoy]] which occurred immediately before he was found on the ''[[Gemenon Traveler]]'' ([[Flesh and Bone]]), and her hallucination about snakes
* On hearing about the snakes, Elosha reveals that it matches a prophecy in an ancient text written by [[Pythia]] 3,600 years ago concerning the exodus of humankind, which foretells that a dying Leader will lead the remnants of humanity to the promised land of Earth.
* Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] and [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] draw up an initial plan to take the asteroid, but Commander Adama decides to turn to [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] to come up with an unconventional idea to accomplish the mission, as she has a penchant for thinking "outside the box", and as machines the Cylons tend to predict more logical plans.
* Plans are drawn up for the attack on the Cylon base on the asteroid, and [[Gaius Baltar]] is involved in preparations when Starbuck and Tigh show him recon photos of the refinery. They cannot simply nuke the base, as the radiation would render the tylium inert, so the best plan would be to destroy the containers holding the volatile unrefined tylium precursor. Tigh and Starbuck want Baltar to point out what it is, even though he has no idea what it looks like. In his mind, Baltar asks his virtual Number Six for help, but she tells him it is in God's hands and He will "tell" Baltar where to point. Baltar picks an object in the base, simply as a wild guess (though he doesn't tell the others that). Baltar is terrified, telling Six he didn't hear God's voice, but she reassures him that "God doesn't always speak in ''words''".
* Apollo is concerned that everyone thinks Starbuck is a better pilot than he is and would be better leading the mission. Starbuck cannot fly in the attack, because in the [[Weight Room|weight room]] Commander Adama demonstrates that her knee has not yet fully recovered from its [[You Can't Go Home Again|injury]]. On the hangar deck, Commander Adama encourages Apollo, telling him he thinks Apollo really can pull off this mission, because he is his son.
* The attack is launched, and [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid|the battle]] commences: civilian mining ships Jump in on one side of the Cylon base pretending to be on a survey mission, drawing off some Raiders from the base, while ''Galactica'' jumps in on the other side and launches a squadron of Vipers against it, which are confronted by the base's reserve Raiders. The Raiders sent against the mining ships peel off and advance with the others on ''Galactica''. Everything seems to be going wrong, but then Adama reveals that this was a feint: doesn’t trust anyone other than his immediate officers with the full details of the action, not even Roslin, because he knows there are Cylon infiltrators in the Fleet.
*A second squadron of Vipers, led by Apollo, are hidden inside of the mining ships: instead of a feint, the mining ships were the thrust of the real attack. All of the Raiders were lured away to advance on ''Galactica'', so they proceed to the base unmolested. However, things are far from easy: the Cylon base has a formidable Anti-Air defense system, and the Vipers' missle attack fails as the Cylons are jamming their missiles' tracking systems.
*In a move of reckless improvisation worthy of Starbuck, Apollo avoids the Cylon defense grid by flying through its tylium mining tunnels to the center of the base, then dropping a pair of explosive charges at the supposed tylium-precursor container.
*Much to Baltar's surprise, his wild guess at which container held the volatile tylium-precursor was correct: as Apollo flies away, the entire base explodes with the force of a 3 kiloton nuclear warhead.
*With their base destroyed, the Cylon Raiders go into a panic and are easy prey for ''Galactica''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Vipers to mop up. All planes return to ''Galactica'' in a moment of celebration. Civilian mining ships will be able to get enough tylium fuel from the asteroid to last the Fleet several years.
*In Baltar's dream world, he expresses his astonishment to Number Six: Baltar "realizes" that the only "logical" explanation is that God truly did guide his hand to the right point on the Cylon base. The originally atheist Baltar now accepts the possibility that he might truly be an instrument of God...

[[Image:bsg-1-10.jpg|thumb|Adama and staff plan the attack.]]
=== On Caprica: ===
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Valerii]] are hiding-out on a farm on their way to [[Delphi]].
*When Helo offers to prepare a meal, Valerii is uncharacteristically sick, leading them to try and settle down for some sleep.
*They are interrupted by the arrival of a troop of [[Cylon Centurion]]s - lead by another copy of Number Six.
*Forcing a stunned Helo into action - he cannot believe the woman he saw Sharon kill is coming after them - Sharon forces him back on the run.

== Questions ==

* Why did [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] order the fighters to pursue the fleeing [[Cylon Raiders]], instead of securing the area? One possibility for attacking the remaining fighters to prevent them from getting reinforcements from a distant [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]. ''(Although Adama will not have discovered this until later episodes, Raiders have the ability to make a jump ''much'' farther than any Colonial vessel.)''
* How many Vipers does ''Galactica'' actually have? Do they have a contingency plan should the majority (or all) of the Vipers be destroyed? Or are they simply fraked? (See [[Galactica (RDM)#Running Tallies|this article for a running tally by episode to-date]])
* Are the Colonials able to build ships, such as [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], from scratch? Or can they take destroyed hulks and rebuild off them? (Answer: Vipers are frequently salvaged, but only to a point. [[Flight of the Phoenix|Yes, they can build from scratch]], although the result [[Blackbird|may not be a Viper]]. However, [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']] is able to build Vipers from scratch, when she has the raw materials (metal ore, etc) to do so. ([[Scar]]))
* How exactly can a 3,600 year old text foretell the exodus of humanity, and the leadership of [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]]? ([[Sacred Scrolls|Answer]].)
* Does someone have time on their hands to build miniatures of the ''new'' Cylon Raiders for the [[Situation Room]]!?
* If [[Gaius Baltar]] read the Sacred Scrolls in "... the 6th grade", why, in spite of being the former Secretary of Education, doesn't [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] know who [[Pythia]] is?
**Answer: According to RDM, the Sacred Scrolls are much like modern Earth religions, i.e. the vast majority of the general populace often knows many often-quoted phrases and the general philosophy of a religion, but that doesn't mean every person is a theology scholar. Also, like Earth different sections of the Twelve Colonies are more religious than others. [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]], for example, is quite secular in regards to religion, while [[Gemenon]] is religiously fundamentalist, believing in the literal truth of the Sacred Scrolls.
*Is Baltar truly an instrument of "God"?

== Analysis ==
*The introduction of the prophesy of [[Pythia]] further link the series' mythology to the ancient Greece of our own planet. In Greek mythology, the Pythia was the priestess at Apollo's oracle in Delphi. The name itself comes from Python, the dragon slain by Apollo. The Pythia operated as a vehicle for Apollo's will to be known to those on earth. A believer would make a sacrifice and present a question to a priest. The priest would then present the question to the Pythia. The Pythia sat on a bronze tripod in the adytum, or inner chamber of Apollo's temple. In this sacred chamber the spirit of Apollo overcame the Pythia and inspired the prophecy.
**Pythia in ancient Greece was the Oracle of Delphi – and on Caprica, Helo and Sharon are making for the religious center of Delphi.
*Following his seeking God’s forgiveness ([[33]]) and his repentance of his sins ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]), Baltar finally becomes God’s "instrument". He literally becomes the hand of God referenced in the episode title: he is the one that points out the target that will destroy the Cylon base.
*Over the last few weeks, we’ve seen Baltar move through the five emotional states that tend to guide our reactions to a new "truth" we’d rather not face:
**Denial (dismissing the "disappearance" of the ''Olympic Carrier'' after the call from Dr. Amorak as anything more than a serendipitous event - [[33]])
**Anger (his outright hostility towards Six as she continues to "bore" him with talk of God - [[Six Degrees of Separation]])
**Bargaining (praying to God for his safety in return for his obedience - [[Six Degrees of Separation]])
**Depression (leaving the Situation Room without having "heard" God’s voice & facing up to the fact that he had to – again - lie)
**Acceptance his messianic response to Six’s coaxing at the end of this episode.
*Did the Cylons ''allow'' the Colonials to find an asteroid filled with fuel?
**Executive producer [[Ron Moore]] has stated numerous times that the Cylons are not letting the Fleet escape, but are actively trying to destroy it.

== Notes ==
*Nine days have passed since the events of "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]".
*The celtic victory music played at the end of the episode after the Cylon base is destroyed is titled "Wander My Friends", written and composed by [[Bear McCreary]]. The lyrics and translation for the song given in the liner notes for the Season 1 soundtrack are reposted [[Soundtrack (Season 1)#Lyrics and Translations|on this page]], with permission.
*Tylium ore is use to power FTL systems, but probably not through any fissionable reaction.
*Tylium has an energy density of about 5e14 J/kg, comparable to that of nuclear fusion.
*Cylon technology is clearly a Colonial off-shoot, as one would expect: from the use of tylium down to the shape of doorways.
*William Adama’s father was Joseph Adama.
*Sharon Valerii on Caprica may well be pregnant.
*Lt. Gaeta makes mention in passing conversation to Apollo that the Colonials actually know where the [[Cylon homeworld]] is ("they'd build a refinery this far from their homeworld?" "Why not? They need fuel out here just as much as we do").
*There is an ancient text some 3,600 years old foretelling humanity’s flight – and apparently, Roslin’s leadership.
*Mark II Vipers can carry both missiles and munitions pods (bombs).
*The Mark VII Vipers all appear to be out of commission - even Apollo is now regularly flying a Mk II.
*Based on the conversation between Commander Adama and Starbuck in the gym, it appears that Mark II Viper thruster pedals use a mechanical flight control system rather than a "fly-by-wire" linkage. This fits the concept of minimizing the use of computers mentioned in the [[miniseries]].
*The religious overtones to the human / Cylon struggle are becoming more pronounced, with a now-promised confrontation due at the "home of the Gods".
*The Colonial fleet has a tylium refinery ship among its number.
*With the capture of the tylium mining facilities on the asteroid, the Colonials should be able to gather enough tylium to keep them going for about 2 years – assuming they can shift that much tylium to their refinery ship before the Cylons return.
*A railway line can be seen below the balcony of Baltar's Caprica house at the end of the episode. Single track, mounted on apparently wooden (as oppsoed to conrete sleepers), on a bed of gravel, without any form of electrifcation (3rd rail or overhead wires).
*The title of this episode was also that of the 21st episode of the original series. Aside from both Adamas launching an offensive strike against Cylon forces, there is little comparison between the two episodes. The writers of the Re-imagined Series episode claimed that the naming of their episode and the offensive attack plans were coincidental; they weren't aware of this Original Series episode.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Lee Adama sits with a battered Viper before the mission. He is joined by his father, who after a short conversation, Adama hands Lee a lighter:''
:'''Commander Adama:''' It belonged to your grandfather. My mother bought it for him when he was in law school. See the engraving on it?
:'''Lee Adama:''' (reading the name "Joseph Adama") Yes I...can barely make it out...
:'''Commander Adama:''' He was a better father than I was. Dad used to carry that into court cases. He claimed he never lost unless he left it behind.
:'''Lee Adama:''' So you’re worried too.
:'''Commander Adama:''' About what?
:'''Lee Adama:''' Sometimes it feels like the whole ship thinks...Starbuck...would do better.
:'''Commander Adama:''' I don’t.
:'''Lee Adama:''' How can you be so sure?
:'''Commander Adama:''' Because you’re my son.

*''Commander Adama asks Starbuck to assist with developing a plan to attack the refinery:''
:'''Commander Adama:''' Captain Adama and Colonel Tigh are working on the plan now and I need some serious "out-of -the-box" thinking.
:'''Starbuck:''' "Out-of-the-box" is where I live.

*''During the briefing with Apollo, Tigh, Starbuck, Adama, and Roslin.''
:'''Commander Adama:''' Sometimes, you have to roll the hard six.

== Official Statements ==




== Guest stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally]]
*[[Lorena Gale]] as [[Elosha]]
*[[imdb:nm1750308|Cailin Stadnyk]] as Ensign [[Davis]]
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Constanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza]]
*[[Lucianna Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
*[[imdb:nm0155389|Terry Chen]] as [[Perry|"Chuckles" Perry]]
*[[imdb:nm1775193|Christina Schild]] as [[Playa Palacios]]
*[[Biski Gugushe]] as [[Sekou Hamilton]]
*[[imdb:nm1544128|Paul Cummings]] as [[Fireball]]
*[[imdb:nm0837992|Camille Sullivan]] as [[Stepchild]]

== External Links ==
[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season01/110/ "The Hand of God"] at scifi.com

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== deletion? ==

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Pegasus (Extended Version)

2006-10-09T00:51:46Z

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: ''This page covers the DVD-exclusive extended version of the episode "Pegasus". For information on the televised version of this episode, see "[[Pegasus (episode)]]". For information related the [[Mercury-class Battlestar|battlestar]] ''Pegasus'' itself, see ''[[Pegasus (RDM)]]''. This article is meant to analyze the differences between the televised, 4 Act version of "Pegasus" and the 5 Act Extended Version; material redundant with Questions and Analysis from the televised version should not be included.''
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| guests=[[Michelle Forbes]] as Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]]
| writer=[[Anne Cofell Saunders]]
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| director=[[Michael Rymer]]
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== Overview ==

The Season 2.5 DVD set, as well as the region 2 and 4 [[Season 2 DVD]] set, contains the original 5 Act version of the mid-season 2 cliffhanger episode, "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]". Standard episodes contain 4 Acts, separated by commercial breaks, for a total 40-45 minute run time. Occasionally, the SciFi Channel has allowed series it produces to create 90 minute long (with commercials) episode specials, containing 6 Acts (an example being [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]). "Pegasus" ran long, and after editing consisted of 5 Acts of material. The production team felt that there was no way they could reach a length of 6 Acts, thus justifying a 90 minute special, without resorting to just adding filler material not really relevant to the main plot. As a result, the original 5-Act cut of ''Pegasus'' was edited down to a standard 4 Act running time. As a result, an entire Act worth of scenes was deleted from the aired version of the episode, purely for time reasons and not due to any issues with their internal content. However, the Extended Version of "Pegasus" is included in the Season 2.5 DVD release, and includes all deleted scenes edited back in, to create an alternate version of the episode.

Executive producers [[Ron Moore]] and [[David Eick]] recorded a new, separate DVD commentary track for the the Extended Version of "Pegasus" (the podcast for the televised version featured only Moore).

== Chronological list of new scenes ==

* The episode now opens with Starbuck briefing Commander Adama and President Roslin about her planned rescue mission for the [[Caprica Resistance|Resistance]] on Caprica. Part of this scene was included in the recap section of "[[Scar]]."
* On the way to the hangar deck Adama gives Roslin some details on Admiral [[Cain|Helena Cain]], stating that "She's a very young officer on a very fast track. Very smart. Very tough. Very well connected." He also indicates her rank as Rear Admiral: "Fleet promoted her to Rear Admiral over half the Commanders on the list."
* In the same scene crewmembers can be seen rushing to the hangar deck, wanting to see Cain's arrival. Colonel Tigh chastises them, but Roslin recognizes the importance of the event for the crew's morale.
* Admiral Cain orders Colonel Tigh to put his men at ease.
* Admiral Cain recognizes [[Gaius Baltar|Dr. Baltar]] when she arrives on ''Galactica'' thus acknowledging his status as celebrity before the [[Cylon attack]].
* Adama apologizes to Admiral Cain for the celebration, but she declines and says "It's so good to see you."
* The conversation between Adama, Roslin and Cain in Adama's quarters starts more friendly and only turns sour after the topic turns to the [[Fall of the Scorpian Fleet Shipyards]]. Some new facts are revealed:
** The [[EMP|electro-magnetic pulse]] created by the nuclear detonations shielded ''Pegasus''' survival from the Cylon [[Dradis]].
** [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']] sustained heavy damage from igniting fuel and ammunition.
** ''Pegasus''' computer network was offline in preperation for the overhaul, thus avoiding Cylon infiltration of the [[Command Navigation Program]].
* Cain voices the opinion that they are lucky to have Dr. Baltar aboard after Adama reports his success in interrogating Sharon, and she wants to make an appointment with him as soon as possible, so that he can work with [[Gina|their Cylon prisoner]].
* An entirely new scene where Cain and Dr. Baltar visit Sharon in her cell. Baltar reports that they got Sharon to cooperate without torture by treating her like a human being. Cain is visibly appalled by how well Sharon has been treated and makes a point out of ignoring her, despite Sharon trying to talk to her.
* When Admiral Cain is leaving, Six teases Baltar about her. "She's a hard case isn't she? Just your type Gaius. You have a thing for strong, powerful women." Baltar salutes Cain as she leaves.
* The deck gang around Chief [[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally]] receive spare parts from ''Pegasus''.
* Likewise Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] receives star charts, computer updates, and a copy of the ''Pegasus''' digital library to compensate for the data lost in the hard drive wipe during "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]."
* A small extension where President Roslin complains that only ''Galactica'' received supplies, despite the dire needs of the civilian [[The Fleet (RDM)|fleet]].
* A few added sentences when [[Peter Laird]] visits ''Galactica'' for the first time.
* After visiting [[Gina]] for the first time, Baltar explains to Cain and Fisk that, in order to make progress with her, he wants Gina to be able to bathe and eat adequately, as well as get clothes.
* Cain replies that Gina's comfort is of no interest to her and reveals that she killed "over 800" of her crew by helping a Cylon boarding party gain access to ''Pegasus''. While not specified, that probably happened during the [[Fall of the Scorpian Fleet Shipyards|initial attack]] and led to her being uncovered as a [[Cylon Agent]]. Cain also wonders if Baltar has become too close to his prisoners and lost perspective.
* The scene continues with the known part about Baltar's findings and concludes with Fisk respectfully adressing Baltar as "Mr. Vice President" and Baltar commenting on ''Pegasus'' with "It's a lovely ship...Looks very new."
* As Cain arrives in her office, Adama is studying her weapons collection. She explains that she doesn't have chairs because standing is better for her back and that as a side effect meetings go faster when her officers have to stand as well. (Her back problems can be seen in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]")
* They go a bit into the difference between ''Galactica'' and a [[Mercury class battlestar]]. Cain says "The ship's nearly twice the size, needs half the crew". This either refers to the double launchbays or the volume, but not the length.
* When Adama relays Cain's orders to transfer Apollo and Starbuck to ''Pegasus'', he stops Starbuck as she is leaving and warns them "Watch out for yourselves. I think they're gunning for you both." to which Apollo replies "I think they're gunning for all of us."
* Tyrol has learned that he is supposed to be replaced as deck chief, prompting Cally's comment "This is bullshit, Chief!" [[Laird]] outs himself as the person who will replace him and Tyrol grudgingly shows him the way to his office. We also learn a new use of "[[frak]]": "frakwit"
* The briefing for the recon mission on ''Pegasus'' opens with a far longer fly-by establishing shot along the entire length of the ship. [[Cole Taylor|Stinger]] now threatens to throw Starbuck in the brig for her insubordination, but she just replies "I like hack." At the end she demonstratively remains sitting when Stinger orders everyone to stand up before dismissing them.
* The controversial and much discussed rape scene has been restored, so that [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Sharon]] is really raped instead of Lt. [[Thorne]] being stopped before he can carry out his attempt. The edits however are subtle. First, Thorne quickly pulls down Sharon's pants (this is still heavily implied in the original). Secondly, when [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and Tyrol arrive in the previously aired version, they look into the cell and it cuts to Thorne letting down his own pants. Now the camera stays outside and Thorne can be seen penetrating Sharon from behind. This lasts only for a few seconds while Helo and Tyrol rush in and attack Thorne. Additionally there are a few more protests by Sharon, her screaming "I'll kill you!" and one shot of Tyrol moving his hands between his head and lap.
* Baltar's last visit to [[Gina]] in the episode has a longer opening. Baltar carries in the food and orders the ''Pegasus'' officer to unshackle her.
* Before ''Pegasus'' is shown to launch her vipers Cain orders the main batteries to be targeted on ''Galactica'' and says "May the Gods have mercy on their souls."

== Questions ==

* Why is [[Peter Laird]] assigned as ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'''s deck chief?
* What was Gina's position on ''Pegasus''? How did she exactly help Centurions board the ship?
* Due to the massive damage caused by exploding munitions, where did ''Pegasus'' manage to get replenished?
* In light of Gaeta's question, ''was'' there pornography in ''Pegasus'''s digital library? 

== Analysis ==

* The reason for Roslin's visit to ''Galactica'' is now revealed in the first scene.
* Starbuck's initial rescue plan consisted of leaving the civilian [[fleet]] and a small escort in a safe location and jumping back to Caprica with ''Galactica'' herself. Because of the risk to the fleet and the [[Red Line|navigational problems]] it was rejected as too risky.
* With Galactica receiving spare parts and computer updates from ''Pegasus'' there is a bit more cooperation between the crews before the small conflicts errupt into a big one.
* It is unknown why [[Peter Laird|Laird]] is replacing [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] as ''Galactica's'' deck chief. Possibly because Cain learned of his affair with [[Sharon Agathon|Sharon]] and the suspicion that he might be a Cylon collaborator ("[[Litmus]]") from ''Galactica's'' logs. However it explains what Laird is doing on ''Galactica'' later during the small party on the hangar deck and why he seems to be in charge of operations when Tyrol asks about the [[Blackbird]]. In "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]" he is definitely in charge of the whole hangar deck, but in that episode he was never formally established in the position. One would assume that he replaced Tyrol after his arrest, but according to the Extended Version it happened before.
* Starbuck's insubordinate behavior towards [[Cole Taylor|Stinger]] doesn't go uncommented now.
*Roslin's line to Baltar in "[[Epiphanies]]" about getting too close to his Cylon subjects echoes Admiral Cain's complaints in the added scenes.
*The reintroduction of the full rape sequence creates a possible continuity error with Helo's line, "He was trying to rape a prisoner" in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]".

== Notes ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

* {{audio|Pegasus - to lucky ships.mp3|''Cain and Adama toast to ''Pegasus'' being a lucky ship.''}}
: '''Admiral Cain:''' Yes, ''Pegasus'' has always been a rather lucky ship.
: '''Commander Adama:''' To lucky ships.

* '''Lt. Gaeta (refering to the ''Pegasus''' library):''' {{audio|Pegasus - got any porn in there.mp3|Got any porn in there?}}

* {{audio|Pegasus - Galactica's a classic.mp3|''On ''Galactica'''s status as a classic.''}}
:'''Commander Adama:''' Makes you feel ''Galactica'''s a relic.
:'''Admiral Cain:''' ''Galactica'' is not a relic, it's a classic. And I for one happen to appreciate the classics.

== Official Statements ==
*Ron D. Moore stated in his podcast that there were a number of scenes filmed for the televised episode that had to be deleted for time, but that he expects to be edited back into the episode for the DVD release. According to Moore, although most episode rough cuts run a little overtime and one or two scenes have to be edited out, "Pegasus" had more than a full extra Act worth of material left over. The full episode would have been an hour and 15 minutes long. Moore tried to put in more scenes to push it to 90 minutes, in which case Scifi Channel would air it as a 90 minute special (as they had done in the past for "Stargate SG-1" on occasion), but ultimately not enough material could be included in "Pegasus" to make it 90 minutes long without detracting from story quality; they were left with an episode that was too short to be a 90 minute special, but also too long to include all filmed scenes in a one hour episode.
*According to RDM's podcast, there was entire subplot alluded to in the episode which was in the original script, but which was excised before it was ever filmed due to time constraints. The fragment that remains is when Roslin complains to Adama that ''Pegasus'' is focusing on re-supplying the Fleet's military assets (re-arming ''Galactica'' and re-supplying ''Pegasus'' from stores in the civililan fleet) while ignoring the needs of the civilian fleet. The subplot would show how Roslin wanted ''Pegasus'' to provide machine parts for repairs to the civilian Fleet, and that after these are repeatedly ignored the civilian fleet ultimately goes "on strike" by refusing to give ''Pegasus'' more [[tylium]] fuel. It would also expand on Cain's refusal to acknowledge Roslin as the President (and therefore her superior as Commander-in-Chief).
*Moore also stated in the podcast that an alternate version of the attempted rape scene with Boomer was also filmed in which the rape was actually underway when Tyrol and Helo intervened. Ultimately, the decision was made to use the version seen where Thorne is stopped just in time, before he is able to rape Boomer. This is an ''alternate'' scene and wasn't just deleted for time: it wasnt' in the script, but after discussing it director Michael Rymer, Grace Park and the rest of the cast decided to create it. The production team and writers liked the originally scripted, averted-at-the-last-minute-rape scene better anyway, so the alternate version was not used in the aired episode.
*Prior to the release of Season 2.0 on DVD, it was [http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4712 confirmed] that the "Season 2.0" DVD box set of ''Battlestar Galactica'' (which contain the first ten episodes of Season 2) does '''not''' contain the Director's Cut of "Pegasus". Universal Home Video stated that they were unable to complete the extended version of the episode in time for the Season 2.0 DVD release. Due to this, fans have the opportunity to buy ''both'' versions. In his podcast, Moore stated his preference for the extended cut over the broadcast version, due to the great character moments and drama, but that some might feel that the tight, rapid pace of the cut-down episode kept it more thrilling.

== Guest stars ==
*[[Michelle Forbes]] as Admiral [[Helena Cain]]
*[[imdb:nm0065320|Graham Beckel]] as Colonel [[Jack Fisk]]
*[[imdb:nm0701561|John Pyper-Ferguson]] as Captain [[Cole Taylor|Cole "Stinger" Taylor]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally]]
*[[imdb:nm0817819|Sebastian Spence]] as [[Whiplash]]
*[[imdb:nm0147661|Fulvio Cecere]] as Lt. [[Alistair Thorne]]
*[[imdb:nm0697864|Peter-John Prinsloo]] as Lt. [[Mei Firelli|Mei "Freaker" Firelli]]
*[[imdb:nm0301925|Vincent Gale]] as Chief [[Peter Laird]]
*[[imdb:nm0217757|Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]]
*[[imdb:nm0233304|Mike Dopud]] Specialist [[Gage]]
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
*[[imdb:nm0429693|Michael Jonsson]] Pegasus Guard #1

== External Links ==
[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season02/210/ "Pegasus"] at scifi.com

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The Farm

2006-10-03T03:01:00Z

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:''This page covers the episode "The Farm." For the Farms themselves, see [[Farms]].''
{{Episode Data
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| title=The Farm
| series=
| season=2
| episode=5
| guests=
| writer=[[Carla Robinson]]
| story=
| director=[[Rod Hardy]]
| production=205
| rating= 2.0
| US airdate=2005-08-12
| UK airdate=2006-02-07
| dvd= {{Season 2.0 NTSC DVD release date}} '''US''' {{Season 2 PAL DVD release date}} '''UK'''
| population=47,857
| prev=[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]
| next=[[Home, Part I]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''[[Kara Thrace]] is shot and wakes up in a remote hospital facility on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]], and learns that her friendly doctor has his own plans for her future.''

== Summary ==

=== On Caprica ===

*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], [[Karl Agathon|Helo]], and two members of the Resistance ([[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and [[Sue-Shaun]], who were introduced in the last episode) devise a plan to escape from [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] by commandeering a [[Cylon Heavy Raider]] from a nearby airstrip. They will fit as many people as possible onto the craft, and will dispatch a rescue mission for the remainder upon return to ''[[Galactica]]''.
*As the team is about to assault the airstrip, they are ambushed, and Thrace is hit by a bullet that grazes off her head and gets lodged in her abdomen. She loses consciousness.
*Thrace wakes up in a hospital. She is being attended to by a doctor named [[Simon]], who tells her that she was brought into the hospital by Anders, and that Anders died from a shrapnel wound. Thrace is devastated.
*Thrace spends the next few days conversing with Simon, who muses that women capable of bearing children are a rare "commodity" now that the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] have nuked the Colonies, and suggests that Thrace should consider giving birth to a child.
*Simon speculates that Thrace's reluctance to have children stems from her mother having abused her when she was young, as evidenced by a pattern of fractures in her fingers. This topic upsets her.
*Thrace wakes to discover a new scar on her abdomen. Simon tells her it's from an operation he did to stop some bleeding, but Thrace doesn't believe him, particularly after he calls her "Starbuck"--her pilot call sign, which she has never told him.
*Thrace fakes sleep after crimping her intravenous drip filled with sedative. When Simon leaves, she follows him into the hallway, where she overhears him having a conversation with a copy of [[Number Six]] about the "complete removal" of her ovaries scheduled for the next day.
*A short time later, Thrace stabs Simon with a broken mirror shard and escapes the room. Lurching around the deserted hospital, she stumbles upon a room full of semi-conscious women wired horrifically to machines. Among them is [[Sue-Shaun]], who begs Thrace to destroy the "baby machines" and end their misery. She obliges with a prayer, a pair of medical tongs, and a primal scream.
*Thrace staggers outside, braining a Six model with a fire extinguisher in the process, only to find a another Simon standing there to greet her. At that moment, [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and the rest of the resistance emerge from the woods. They pepper Simon with bullets, but soon get bogged down in a firefight with a squad of [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]]. A second rescue occurs in as many minutes: [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Caprica-Valerii]] swoops down in a stolen Heavy Raider and blows the Centurions away.
*Thrace relates her experiences in the hospital to the others. Valerii explains that the [[Cylon agent|humanoid Cylons]] have a flaw which renders them unable to reproduce biologically. The Cylons have been holding human women in "farms" to try to implant them with human/Cylon embryos. This effort has failed, however, leading the Cylons to believe that conception requires "love." Based on this theory, Valerii was able to conceive with Helo because of their love for each other.
*Helo, Sharon, and Starbuck leave Caprica on the Heavy Raider. Starbuck promises [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] to return someday to rescue the Resistance. In the meantime, Anders says he will try to destroy as many farms as he can.

===On ''Galactica''===

*Commander Adama returns to duty, and is greated by applause in [[CIC]]. He tells the crew that he loves them all.
*To try to rally support to the president, Zarek wants [[Lee Adama]] to make a recording denouncing his father. Adama stops in the middle of it and says he can't go through with that. It's left to [[Laura Roslin]] to win over the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]].
* Roslin plays the "religious card." She transfers to the ''[[Astral Queen]]'' from where she transmits a message imploring the Fleet to follow her and the path the [[Lords of Kobol]] have set out for her. An infuriated and staunchly secular Adama doesn't board the ''Astral Queen'' because he thinks only three or four ships would seriously listen to her "religious nonsense." Instead, 24 ships ("almost a third of the Fleet") leave with her.
*Cally is thrown in the brig for killing [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], now known as a Cylon agent and traitor. Chief Tyrol implores Commander Adama to release her, due to her trauma by events on Kobol. Adama gives her a light sentence of charging her with discharging a firearm without permission: Cally will spend only one month in the brig.
*Adama asks Tyrol if he could love Boomer despite the fact that she was a machine. Tyrol isn't quite sure, but it becomes apparent that Adama is asking himself the question as much as he is Tyrol; Adama loved all of his pilots like his children.
*Adama visits Boomer's body in the morgue. He asks "Why?" then breaks down crying over her body.

== Questions ==
*Caprica-Valerii says that she knows that [[Leoben Conoy]] told Kara Thrace she was special during his interrogation aboard ''Galactica''. How could she have known this? How do the Cylon agents communicate to each other?
**Since it is confirmed that Cylon agents do transmit their consciousness or updated information from body to body upon death, this implies that '''all''' models share memories between each other, no matter where they are. Caprica-Valerii seems to know much of ''Galactica's'' state of affairs when asked. If such communication is the case, wouldn't the relative strength of such a signal from the body be a tip-off for Colonials to locate the remaining Cylon infiltrators?
**Valerii also says that she "hasn't accessed that data" when asked how many farms there are. Does this mean that Cylons transmit information only upon death? She knew about Leoben #2's "visit" with Thrace ([[Flesh and Bone]]) but she doesn't know the thoughts of the other Cylons on the planet who have not died. Conversely the Cylons seem unaware of her rebellious thoughts.
***Has the rebellious Sharon Valerii severed her connection with the other Cylons? After she switched sides in "[[Flesh and Bone]]," the other Cylons seem unaware of her current thoughts and actions. Perhaps she only knows of events on ''Galactica'' before this point?
**Leoben Conoy #2 appeared to acknowledge in "[[Flesh and Bone]]" that he was too far from Cylon forces for his personality to be recovered. Was he able to covertly transmit his memories to one of the basestars encountered in [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]" or "[[Scattered]]" by way of another agent? ([[Resurrection Ship|Likely answer]])
*Will we see Simon again? ([[Downloaded|Answer]]) Is he one of the eight Cylon agents hiding in the Fleet?
*How did Simon know Anders' name?
**RDM's blog states that one of the member's of Anders' resistance was probably a Cylon (not necessarily any of the resistance members we saw on screen) who tipped them off to Anders, though this didn't make the final cut of the episode.
***Could this have been a copy of [[Cavil]], specifically, the copy that prays with the resistance before they leave Caprica in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]?"
*Why does the Caprica resistance seem more concerned about Thrace's disappearance than Sue-Shaun's? Did Thrace's love interest generate the greater concern?
*Could Commander Adama's evident grief upon viewing the corpse of Boomer in the ship's morgue mean that they were personally involved at some point? Or, perhaps, did the level of humanity that Boomer showed cause Adama to mourn her loss as he would a daughter or daughter-figure such as Kara Thrace? In any case, given her role in Adama's assassination attempt, this is strange and strong behavior.
*Would any viable embryos harvested by the Cylons be accelerated into mature adults or placed ''in vitro'' into a host? Would the host be Cylon or human?
**Caprica-Valerii seemed to imply that no viable hybrid embryos had ever been produced by the Farms, at least up until this point. Then again, she said that they "weren't very successful," a somewhat vague answer suggesting inpregnation or growth but no viable fetuses.

== Analysis ==
*What exactly did the Cylons do to Thrace's ovaries? Simon tells Six: "...pending lab test results on sample for ovaries, complete removal will proceed tomorrow". Starbuck escapes right after this, which means that the opportunity to "completely remove" her ovaries did not occur. This suggests at the very least that Starbuck can still have children. However, female humans only have '''two''' ovaries: how can you have a "sample" one? The sample could just mean that Simon took several eggs from one of Starbuck's ovaries to see if they were viable for conceiving children.
*It would seem that the Cylons at least obtained several sample egg cells from Starbuck. Will this lead to developments later on?
*In Ron D. Moore's blog entry for October 14, 2005, after finishing the last scripts for season two he jokingly says he has "the reward of time spent thinking about something besides Kara's missing ovaries ("Now, where did I leave those ovaries? They were right here a minute ago...") ". What is meant by this?

== Notes ==
*This episode's opening credits marks the return of the "blipvert" effect used in the first season episodes, which Ron D. Moore uses as an homage to "Space: 1999."
*As of the opening credits, the fleet population is now 47,857, a net loss of 4 since "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]". This reflects the deaths of four civilians on board the [[Gideon]] in that episode, but apparently not that of Boomer. Was she removed from the count immediately after her assassination attempt?
*According to [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]], this episode takes place "a week" after Apollo docked at ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' in the last episode, although apparently Adama hasn't been well enough to resume command until very recently.
*24 ships, almost a third of the Fleet, have left with Roslin for Kobol.
**This would mean the total Fleet consisted of over 72 ships. In the [[Miniseries]], there are only about 40 FTL-capable ships able to rendezvous with ''Galactica'' at [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. This continuity error is similar to the 500-1500 prisoner error. [[Bastille Day]] and [[Miniseries]]
*Boomer's body is now in the morgue.
*Number Six mentioned that "procreation is one of God's commandments" in the first episode, "[[33]]." This could mean that the Cylons are trying to procreate out of a feeling that they are sinning by not being able to have children on their own.
*Helo and Caprica-Valerii's child is the first Human/Cylon hybrid conceived in love, and as a result appears to be the first and only successful hybrid; it seems that no other embryo survived nearly as long as it already has (it is now about five weeks old, since its conception in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]").
*Boomer served aboard ''Galactica'' for two years, which means the Cylons had begun infiltrating Colonial society from at least that long ago. This matches the length of time of Six's affair with Baltar while on Caprica, suggesting that Cylon agent infiltration occurred around two years prior to the events of the miniseries.
*According to Simon's study (either from a Cylon dossier on Thrace or from medical exams) Starbuck was the victim of frequent physical abuse as a child; she's suffered many bone fractures in childhood, and all of her fingers have been broken at some point. This is consistant with the comments made by Leoben Conoy to Starbuck during their interrogation scenes. [[Flesh and Bone]]
*Caprica-Valerii is aware of [[Leoben Conoy]] #2's interrogation by Starbuck in "[[Flesh and Bone]]," even of specific things he said during it, suggesting that Cylon agents sometimes have a collective knowledgebase (''not'' a collective consciousness; see "[[Downloaded]]" for this confirmation) to occasionally draw from. This is supported by Boomer's information to [[Gaius Baltar]] of the number of Cylon agents remaining in the Fleet in "[[Resistance]]," as only such an knowledgebase would allow Boomer to know of this data.
*This episode introduces the fifth confirmed [[Cylon agent]], [[Simon]].
*According to a deleted scene, this episode takes place a week after "[[Fragged]]."
*After the final commercial break, as Simon enters Starbuck's room (right before she stabs him) you can see that her room is number "254". Not so coincidentally, this scene takes place in Season 2, episode #5, and this is the start of Act #4.
*Starbuck has the last line in this episode: "Let's go [[Home,_Part_I|home]]!"

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Cylons discussing the surgical testing they are performing on Starbuck'':
:'''Simon:''' ...pending lab test results on ovaries, complete removal will proceed tomorrow. They've lab tested positive and subject will be removed to processing facility for final disposition.
:'''Number Six:''' Is that regret I hear in your voice, Simon?
:'''Simon:''' If it is, it certainly is none of your concern.

*''Explanation of the Human/Cylon hybrid project:''
:'''Valerii:''' They were conducting research, into Human/Cylon breeding programs.
:'''Starbuck:''' Human/Cylon?
:'''Helo:''' 'Call them "Farms"...your gunshot wound looks fine...
:'''Starbuck:''' So "Farms", that's great...what were they going to do, 'knock me up with some Cylon kid?
:'''Valerii:''' They were going to try to. We haven't been very successful so far.
:'''Anders:''' Supposedly they can't reproduce...you know, ''biologically'', so they've been trying every which-way to produce offspring.
:'''Starbuck:''' Why?
:'''Valerii:''' Procreation. It's one of God's commandments; "be fruitful". We can't fulfill it, we've tried. So we decided--
:'''Starbuck:''' To rape human women?!
:'''Valerii:''' You know, if you agreed to bear children it would be voluntary, maybe even set you up with someone you like.
:'''Starbuck:''' And you two kids? (looking at Helo and Caprica-Sharon)
:'''Valerii:''' We're different.
:'''Starbuck:''' What the frak is that supposed to mean?
:'''Helo:''' They have this theory; maybe the one thing they were missing was '''love'''. So Sharon and I...were set up...
:'''Starbuck:''' To fall in love?! They didn't ask [[Sue-Shaun]] if she wanted to fall in love, alright! They put a tube in her, and they hooked her up to a machine!
:'''Valerii:''' They know who you are, Kara. You're special. Leoben told you that. You have a destiny.
:'''Helo:''' (pointing out the other scar on Starbuck's lower abdomen) Starbuck what's the second scar?
:'''Starbuck:''' I don't know. I don't think I want to know now. You know?
:'''Valerii:''' No.
:'''Anders:''' Alright, how many women do they have in these "Farms"?
:'''Valerii:''' Hundreds, maybe thousands. I don't know, I haven't accessed that data.

*''Adama wonders aloud about the nature of Cylons and humans''
:'''Tyrol:''' I don't believe she [Cally] was in her right mind when she shot Boomer--
:'''Adama:''' Did you love her, Chief?
:'''Tyrol:''' 'Scuse me?
:'''Adama:''' Boomer. Did you love her?
:'''Tyrol:''' Thought I did.
:'''Adama:''' Well, when you think you love somebody, you love them. That's what love is. Thoughts... She was a Cylon. A machine! Is that what Boomer was, a machine? A thing?
:'''Tyrol:''' That's what she turned out to be.
:'''Adama:''' She was more than that to us. She was more than that to me. She was a vital, living person aboard my ship for almost two years! She couldn't have been just a machine. Could you love a machine?
:'''Tyrol:''' No, sir. Guess I couldn't have.
:'''Adama:''' Cally discharged a firearm without permission, endangering life of her fellow shipmate. 30 days in the brig. Dismissed.
:'''Tyrol:''' Thank you, sir.
:'''Adama:''' You'll see her again, Chief.
:'''Tyrol:''' Excuse me?
:'''Adama:''' There are many copies. You'll see her again.

*''Simon, talking about Starbuck's reluctance to have children but also perhaps talking about the Cylons view of themselves (and maybe the "human" cylons).
:'''Simon:''' Children of abusive parents often fear passing along that abuse to their own children.

== Guest stars ==
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Tamara Lashley]] as [[Sue-Shaun]]
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]

== External Links ==
[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season02/205/ "The Farm"] at scifi.com

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:''This article discusses the robotic Cylons seen in the [[Cylon War]] of the [[Re-imagined Series]]. For information on the robotic Centurions from the [[Original Series]], see [[Centurion (TOS)]].''

[[Image:Centurion_armor_old.jpg|thumb|Cylon Centurion (Armor) on display. ([[Miniseries]]) Credit Sci-Fi Channel / GateWorld.net]]

The Cylon Centurion is a model of [[Cylon]] used in various heavy to light labor and military applications. Before the [[Cylon War]], the model earned the nickname of "walking chrome [[toaster]]s" due to their physical appearance. ([[Miniseries]])

== Physical Appearance ==
Cylons are bipedal and, unlike the modern day [[Cylon Centurion]], are apparently not equipped with attached weapons packages. Despite this disadvantage, they can utilize any weapon at hand and are physically stronger than a human.

This model averages 6-foot, 6-inches in height and is silver chrome in color. It is neither a fast model nor extremely efficient, due to its bulk. Its iconic feature is the one Cylon "eye" that glows red and pulsates back and forth in a visor-like slot.

Centurions of this model are run on internal powercells.

The Cylon can last 9 to 10 years without excessive maintenance or need for additional power. ([[Miniseries]])

This model has been replaced with the new [[Cylon Centurion]] in all appearances.

== Source Text ==
[[Image:Cylon_centurion_model_0005.jpg|thumb|[[Armistice Officer]]'s paper work on the Cylon Centurion model. ([[Miniseries]]) Credit: Universal Studios]]
Some information was gleaned from the paperwork reviewed by the [[Armistice Officer]] in the [[Miniseries]]. One issue with this information is the use of the word "yahren" (term used in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|original ''Battlestar Galactica'']] meaning a year). Other paperwork visible in the same scene is labeled "[[Cimtar Peace Accord]]," which occurred in the original series as well.

The readable text of the Cylon Specifications sheet is as follows:

: <center>CYLON SPECIFICATIONS</center>
: <center>Cylon Centurian Model 0005</center>
: The Cylon:

: A Cylon is a bipedal robot. They are self aware, and usually quite logical. They are not especially fast, but they are quite strong. They are artificial in nature, and are larger than a human, around 6' 6" (2m), although this varies with their type. Cylon eyes glow red, and pulse back and forth.
: A Cylon is powered by internal powercells which allow it to function without outside aid for around nine to ten yahrens.

== New versus Old ==
This model of Cylon Centurion is one aspect of the Original Series that maintains continuity to the reimagined series. It is noted by the Armistice Officer's paperwork, and their appearance in the museums on Caprica and ''Galactica''.

== Canonical Spelling ==
There is some debate among fans regarding the canonical spelling of this model's name. [[Wikipedia:Centurion (Roman army)|Centurion]]s were professional officers of the Roman Army, and are widely acknowledged as the basis of the Cylon name. Some official material, such as the on-screen appearance of the Armistice Officer's datasheet and the packaging of the original Mattel action figures, used the spelling "Centurian." For the purposes of this wiki, the spelling "Centurion" is used throughout.

==See Also==

The [[Cylon Centurion]] model used in the Re-imagined Series is more versatile and dangerous than its predecessor, and has replaced Model 0005 in almost all, if not all, of its use over the course of the forty years between the end of the Cylon War and the holocaust, though it is implied by [[Number Six]] that some might still be around.

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