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User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Template:Episode list

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== Weird bug in template ==
This is what happens for me with Firefox 2.0.0.11:
# Remember the number of the season that is displayed initially (in this example, it's Season 1)
# Go to a different season (e.g. Season 3)
# Go back to Season 1
# Navigate some more and watch the dropdown going crazy.
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 05:21, 30 January 2008 (CST)

: Yeah, it goes a bit nuts... I'm working on that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 11:06, 30 January 2008 (CST)

User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Archive 2

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I see from your website that you're in Connecticut; so am I. What're the odds of that, I wonder?[[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 18:30, 3 Jun 2005 (EDT)

: Actually, I was from Manchester. I moved to Florida with my folks in late 2002. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:24, 3 Jun 2005 (EDT)

This is not my specialty, but do you think you could bring over Template:IPA from Wikipedia for pronunciations? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:44, 5 Aug 2005 (EDT)

== Redirect or Respell the Tyllium Page? ==

Hey, Joe. I discovered that we may have been mispelling "tyllium" with one L and not the 2 shown on the SciFi site. We probably need a redirect if we move the Tylium page to a correct spelling. How is that done? [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 01:16, 20 Aug 2005 (EDT)

== Multiple talks? ==

Hello, I have '''no''' idea what means those two URIs of your talk. When I'm in your profile, through the link on the up (discussion) i get here. But you have even [[User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin|this]] talk. What does it mean? Which one I have to use? Don't you know why it is?

Sorry for disturbing you with this, but I think that solving this problem wouldn't be bad choice. I wonder why is this happening in your profile. --[[User:Pavel Ptáček|Pavel Ptáček]] 05:58, 21 Aug 2005 (EDT)

:Ah, I see now that theese two talks are made by two different pages - one is about master, and one is about '''user''' in this wiki. I'm sorry for creating this. --[[User:Pavel Ptáček|Pavel Ptáček]] 13:03, 21 Aug 2005 (EDT)

User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Archive9

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== Military Ranks ==

Just a few concluding remarks I don't blame you for what you did, where I in your position I would have done the same thing. The reason I didn't respond to Serenity's first post was because until yesterday I had been unable to figure out how. As far as fear of retribution, I've never really been involved with a wiki before so I wasn't really sure what to expect and was kind of intimidated. I appreciate you're addressing my issues. Not only did it help me understand why things were happening the way they were, but it also made me feel like my input was welcome and that was all I was asking for. I am anxious to see any clarification you can offer in the weeks ahead because I find this a rather fascinating topic.

Thanks again for the clarification. {{unsigned|Grandmaester314}}

== BG S4.1 in Latin America ==

In Latin America, Season Four of Battlestar Galactica airs on Saturdays and Sundays on [http://www.canalspace.tv Space].

== Dynamic Page List ==

Hi, I just checked all feature about BW and I didn't see the Dynamic Page List feature. Do you plan one day to install it because it's very useful?--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 20:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
: Perhaps. I'll talk with [[User:Shane|Shane]] about this. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 21:08, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

=== Examples ===

Here are some examples I made for the Stargate Wiki FR:

* To see minor characters:
** [http://fr.stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:LigneMineurs Automatic generation of a line with five stamps] using DPL with entry of the series, the season, and the first article sorted.
** [http://fr.stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Portail:Personnages_Universe/Mineurs/Saison_Un/Page_1 Automatic generation of minor characters for the first page] with automatic sort by last name
**[http://fr.stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Portail:Personnages_Universe/Mineurs/Saison_Un Automatic creation of minor character stamps page links] with automatic image update and automatic update of the first and the last character name of this page.
* To see objects:
** [http://fr.stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Ligne Automatic generation of a line]. All you juste have to do is to put the correct category.
** [http://fr.stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Portail:Armes Autogeneration of a page] with the famous lines.
* To resume objects in a bottom navigation bar:
** [http://fr.stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Divers Nav bar] automaticaly updated (put the right category)

All you have to do with this kind or templates is to put the right category and DPL (with a purge) will do the rest. The main purpose of DPL is to avoid editing when the database can do the stuff for you. You don't have to edit an article or a template to update with new article of the same category. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 08:28, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== What about RFA and RFB for French BW ? ==

Hi Joe,

I'm on the verge to edit the policy for the french version of [[BW:RFA|Request for Admninship]] and [[BW:RFB|Request for Bureaucratship]]. I need your help for this two policies.
# Do I just translate the English version with the same vote system than the main site?
# Do I have to do it in another way?
# Is the principle of request the same than the main site?
Thanks for answering.--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 11:25, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

: If you have any suggestions as to improve the policies in question, then that would work well. Until the French wiki has more contributors, I don't think the RFA and RFB are really going to work all that well, and so administrators are promoted on a case-by-case basis as determined by you, me, and Shane. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 13:10, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

:: Until I design or translate all the templates needed and the main page, I think there will not be a lot of contributors. The main problem is the lack of French and French-speaking people who speak English fluently. French people are not very confortable with English, so it's very difficult for them to contribute unless they have seen the show and are fans. With your agreement, I will just create one page for RFA and RFB with the statement you said above (Shane, you and me). FYI, all the episodes of the [[Re-Imagined Series]] have been aired in France, and have been released in DVD format (I just saw the Season 4 Part 2 Set yesterday in a supermarket) . --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

::: Understandable. And, yes, this works for me. I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank you for all of your hard work! It is certainly appreciated! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:21, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

:::: Thanks for encouraging. ;-) -- [[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 17:50, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Wiki Store (FR) and iTunes (FR) ==

Hi again,

I can see on the Support section of the sidebar many links to affiliates (like Amazon and iTunes). Can I (or not) create similar links to french Amazon and iTunes store with french official stuff from ''Battlestar Galactica'' Franchise? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 18:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

: I'll have to look into it. So don't worry about it for now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 19:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
:: OK. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 20:15, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== German Battlestarwiki ==

For days, I have been trying to access the german Battlestarwiki - without success. Is it offline? Under maintenance?--[[User:Dvd-junkie|Dvd-junkie]] 17:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

: I'm checking into it. I'll let you know when it's back online. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 17:05, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

: It's back up. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 18:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you!--[[User:Dvd-junkie|Dvd-junkie]] 18:59, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

* Hello. I cannot look at articles with galleries. E.G. if I open http://de.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Pegasus_%28RDM%29 i cannot see the article. If I kill the gallery everything is alright. Whats the problem? --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 16:26, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

: I'm looking into this right now and will get back to you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:29, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

:: Ok, it's working now. There was a conflict with one of the extensions and MW 1.16. I've disabled it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:14, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

::: Great, thank you. and can you tell me, where the mistake in this template is?: http://de.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Vorlage:Stammbaum --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 17:26, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: No problem. As for the template: I would just port the english Familytree template over from scratch, and see if you get the same errors. I don't have the time to do it now, but I did put it on my to-do list. If you can't get to it, then I'll be able to do so after the Easter holiday. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:39, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::I will try it tomorrow or this evening, but I can remember, that I once copy and paste it from the german wikipedia site and it also doesnt work correctly. {{unsigned|Enabran}}
:::::: It's a complicated template. I know that [[User:Shane|Shane]] had problems porting it over as well... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:14, 24 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::: I don't know anything about templates, but after hours of testing it seems to work :-) (maybe an easter wonder). As first attempt I created the [[de:Vorlage:Stammbaum zylonischer Evolution|german version]] of your [[Template:Cylon evolution tree|zylon tree]]. But I do not know why there is so much free space between the top and the first line. Maybe you can take a look at it? --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 09:01, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Will the german wiki come back?

:: Links from english to german sites are working but no links from german sites to english sites are working.-- [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 02:40, 4 August 2019 (PDT)

== Happy holidays ==

Hi Joe! Just wanted to say hi and happy holidays to you and yours. I am well, hope you are too. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 04:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
: Hi Jeremy! Happy Holidays! I am doing well, and I'm glad to see that you are too! :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 17:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

== Hah, I feel bad now. ==

Since I've joined here, the only thing I've been doing is tinkering with the Glare page. Now I feel bad that's all I've been doing. =/ I gotta help out for the reals, so do any pages need serious revision/are missing a lot of crap that I can help out with? --[[User:NeutraVega|NeutraVega]] 19:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

: Hi there! :D Sorry for the long delay in replying, but we had the database locked and the site moved to new servers, thus the delay. Anyway, we could use the most help on the [[Caprica pilot]] page and subjects relating to ''Caprica''. So if you'd like to start there, that'd be great. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 16:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== Advertising and problem on media repository ==

Hi Joe and Happy New Year, 
As I already said to Shan, I can see that you succeed to bring back the wiki. Congratulations. I have two point to ask.
# I made a donation for the wiki to avoid advertising but I still have them on the screen, why? Thank you for your answer.
# On the media repository, I tried to upload an image. It is actually somewhere in the directory but the sofware is unable to create a thumbnail. It says that it cannot find the "convert" file on the server. So for now, it's impossible to add new images on the media repository.
Thanks for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 15:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

: Happy New Year to you too! :D
: Anyway, I went ahead and upgraded your account to sponsor status, so you shouldn't see the ads. If you do, try logging in and out again. If that doesn't work, a hard refresh should clear the cache. As for the convert issue, I'll have Shane look into it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:: Thanks, I've no ads anymore. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 15:57, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
::: Awesome! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 16:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
: Fixed the issue with the media repository as well. Cheers. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 21:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

== InterBot and BS Pegasus ==

Hi Joe. 
1. It seems that [[:fr:User:InterBot|InterBot]] doesn't work because the interwiki link I made on the pages I created aren't duplicated on the other wikis. 
2. I don't have access to [http://www.battlestarpegasus.com/ BS Pegasus] either. It says it's forbidden. Is there any problem since the server transfer or something? 
Thanks for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 21:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hi, Still doesn't work for both points. Do you have any answer for that please? Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

: Sorry, I've been pretty busy. (Barely have had time to really work on the wiki, other than to greet the newcomers.) To answer your questions:
: 1. Shane needs to reprogram the InterBot. He hasn't had time to do that as he's been working on projects for Best Buy.
: 2. The BS Pegasus site is down. No ETA on when that'll be back up as it isn't priority. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 01:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

== Calendar dates on auction items ==

Hi Joe,

I expanded the [[Colonial calendar#Different Dating Methods]] section with information from a couple of auction items and noticed in the process that you wrote at least some of the blog entries at battlestarprops.com. Do you recall seeing any calendar items I haven't mentioned yet, and if so, could you point me to their pictures? It would also be nice to see a higher resolution scan of Socrata's medal of valor document, if one is available.

Regards,

-- [[User:Graf Iblis|Graf Iblis]] 19:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

: I honestly never really paid all that much attention to the dating thing, since it was all made up anyway. (''Star Trek'''s "stardate" system is a very good example of this, actually. It isn't until they did TNG that they really put thought into it.) There is very little consistency behind the dating on any of the paperwork; in television production, much of it is thrown together—some of it even at the very last minute—even taking into account the quality of BSG's paperwork being higher than other genre television series. It isn't until ''Caprica'' that they really tried to address the issue of the Colonial dating method, because it's simply not natural not to have characters ''not'' say "Hey Lacy, meet me for lunch on Saturday."

: As for photos of the stuff, the [http://archive.propworx.com Propworx archive] has photos of everything that's been auctioned through Propworx. I also know of a few fans who have won many paperwork documents from the BSG auctions (both live and via eBay) that have taken the time to scan them, but most of their work is on private boards and some prop replication communities. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 02:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. The scans on that site have a much higher resolution and I already found a couple of items with supposed dates. I would like to document them in the article primarily to establish that there was no real system in the re-imagined series as opposed to ''Caprica''. Such random alphanumerics also suggest to the reader that the dates in Adama's dossier need not be correct necessarily (e.g. the year 20000+). -- [[User:Graf Iblis|Graf Iblis]] 18:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

== "pos" extended parser function ==

Hi Joe, I would like to ask if it is possible to add the "'''''pos'''''" Parser Function into the wiki, this will allow to do some research more easily (for example to do an action on pages with a certain text and not on the others). Thanks for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 12:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

: Do you have a link so I can check this out? I take it this is an extension to MW. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 13:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:: Check [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StringFunctions this link] to see. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 18:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

::: It's now installed. I'd be interested to see how you use this. Cheers! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 20:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:::: One example for the moment:
::::* The [[fr:Modèle:Apparitions Télésuite, 1re nuit|Modèle:Apparitions Télésuite]] template using [[fr:Modèle:Apparition]]. I use the '''''pos''''' to show the number of apparitions only on the Apparition page (condition) :
::::** When you see it inside the episode: [[fr:Télésuite, 1re nuit#Apparition des personnages|Télésuite, 1re nuit#Apparition des personnages]]
::::** When you see it inside the characters apparition page: [[fr:Liste des apparitions des personnages par épisode#Battlestar Galactica|Liste des apparitions des personnages par épisode]]. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 20:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== HTML activation ==

Hi Joe, I think the wiki has not the HTML function activated because I tried to import some Wikipedia template to adapt them to the wiki and those have htlm writing inside and it doesn't work. So, please, is it possible to activate html editing in the french wiki? Thanks a lot. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 11:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
: Which templates are affected? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 16:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::[[fr:Modèle:Infobox/Ligne mixte|This one]] for example. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::: Why not just use the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables wikicode table syntax]? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 17:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::: I tried it but there is an issue when you use a template using parser function inside another template using parser functions. It doesn't recognise at all a link (an image for an example) created by the template inside, it separates the link like a colspan. At least, is it possible to activate only the <code><nowiki><td><hr><tr></nowiki></code> tags? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 13:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::: OK, I should get to activating those HTML tags sometime tonight. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 17:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== SVG generation ==

Hi Joe, I hope you're fine, I've seen a little problem with the SVG generator. It doesn't work properly. Here is the message I get :

<code>Erreur lors de la création de la miniature : /usr/bin/rsvg: not found</code>

I think it's a missing file forgot during the transfer last december. Thank you for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 08:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

: It's that rsvg isn't presently installed on the new server. I'll send in a support request. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 18:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:: Hi, Joe, Still doesn't work, sorry. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

::: Yeah, that's because I was sidetracked and neglected sending that support request. I've sent it in and hope to hear from someone in the next 48 hours. Sorry about that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 19:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

::: OK, they've installed it. All should be good now. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 00:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

:::: YES, it's working. Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 10:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

::::: Hi Joe, I think I've a bit too quick to say Hurra. There is still a problem. There is no generation of image but instead of, we have the name of the file. See [[:fr:Modèle:Drapeau]] or [[:fr:Michael Rymer]] for example. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:11, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

:::::: Looking into it now... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:13, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

::::::: I'd have to track down the exact error, since our server host doesn't supply tech support for MediaWiki (understandably so) an Shane is busy with projects. Of course, I have no time to do it right not until mid-October because I am committed to other projects right now. Would it be possible to use PNGs for the flags until we can get the SVG issue ironed out? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 01:37, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== removal of my question ==

Hi !

Yes, it was a real question : how could the pegasus avoid further contamination by the Cylon virus. Is this answered in future episodes ?

Why did you simply remove my question ?

Regards,
Nixab (new fan and new contributor here).

:I think it's a valid question, Joe, so I noted that the answer is in [[Razor]] and spelled it out in the [[Answered Questions from Season 2 (RDM)#Pegasus|Answered Questions from Season 2]]. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 03:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

: Fair enough, and I agree. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 05:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

== Jupiter-class battlestar issue ==

I have a problem with your edit of my edit on the Jupiter class battlestar Galactica. The book I refered to is canon since it was written by the science advisor to BSG and sactioned by SyFy and Ron Moore. If yoiu prefer your wiki not to contain official information then that is fine and I will not bother to add any other information to your site. I will rely solely on official material such as this book. Cancel my membersip please.
Good Bye. {{unsigned|Lonewriter}}

: Please refer to [[BW:CITE#Acceptable_Sources|Acceptable Sources]], which list the sources of what makes something canon. Just because there is an error in a book sanctioned by Syfy Channel, does not mean it is automatically canon. As I've only started reading the book, I've already noticed errors (mostly with spelling, such as Cally's name), that raises a few doubts in my mind when it comes to how thoroughly the book was copyedited.

: As I believe I had explained, the episode that the writers of the book refer to ("Pegasus") does ''not'' make mention of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> class. ''At all.'' So, they made a mistake, or improperly cited the source. (Now, if it came from the script for that episode, I can see that. We've used scripts as sources before.)

: Now, if Ron Moore or David Eick were to come out and say "well, they're right, ''Galactica'' is a ''Jupiter'' class" then we will certainly note that, and cite that it came from them. Furthermore, maybe I wasn't clear, but I'm not saying that we should throw out the reference at all, but '''it needs to be pointed out that the way the information is present is in ''direct contradiction to what viewers saw on screen.'''''

: Believe me, were this information aired in "Pegasus" fans would have eaten that up, just like they (we) ate up the whole ''Mercury'' class reference that Adama made before Cain boarded the ship. :)

: Now, as to your immature comment, it does suggest that you probably wouldn't be a good editor here, because you don't seem to understand how to critically analyze information, or the necessity of viewing all information with a critical eye. That's fine. There are people who simply don't have that ability. There's nothing wrong with that. Also, you don't have to use the site, at all. I hate to be disingenuous and brusque, but if you're going to use appeals to emotion instead of actually bothering to do the research (which I, and many, many fans have done over the past five-plus years) then you're welcome to leave and never look back.

: However, let me be particularly clear when I say this: what I have done is pointed out this error, which you've brought to our attention, so thank you for that. Now, if you want to act like a prima donna and storm off in a huff, then that's your call. You're more than welcome to stay, or you are more than welcome to leave. Ball is in your court. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 02:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

== William Adama edits ==

I seem to find the spoiler tag formatting (I edit on wikipedia but we have nothing similar there) so I'm just going to be as vague as I can be and hope you understand. While reading over the spoilered info on William Adama's page that you recently added I realized that you have a character connection slightly off. If you check my edit history, you'll see I made a similar change on a related page. Hope that's enough for you to see what I meant (since I can't edit the Old Man's page). [[User:Millahnna|Millahnna]] 23:00, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

: Yes, I got what you meant! I'll make the correction now! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 02:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

== Duram's files at Propworx ==

Hi Joe,

Have you preserved alternate photographs of Duram's files which are now on eBay? The available photo makes Clarice's file halfway legible, but I'm curious what's in Amanda's and other files. I'm not planning on buying them though, since I'm only interested in the information, not in provenance. Even so, thanks for participating in the auctions — the photos have provided so much useful information that would've normally disappeared with the shows. -- [[User:Graf Iblis|Graf Iblis]] 22:10, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

: I'd have to ask Jarrod, since he's the one who oversees the Caprica auction stuff out in LA. (I'm not in LA, so I don't have easy access to this stuff myself.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 23:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reference in Template ==

What does putting the ref in break? I don't see anything unusual except that the 33 has to be bracketed to be a link. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:47, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

: Issue is that the brackets are printed out, and they really shouldn't be. I guess I'll have to modify the infobox template to deal with that. Basically a separate field that is only for references, like "|seenref=". -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:42, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

== Affiliation ==

Hello would you like this wiki to affiliate with my independent wiki http://stargate-wiki.org/ ? [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 23:38, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

: Hi there, feel free to e-mail me directly at joe@frakmedia.net so we can talk about it more. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 23:44, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

Not sure if you got my email or not, anyway, would you prefer to join the SIWA Network (Scifi independent wiki alliance)? http://siwanetwork.webs.com Basically just lets more people interlink with these wikis and its always good to have more links to your site laying around. It costs nothing and we dont really ask for anything in return. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 06:35, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

: Thank you for the offer, but I will decline. I really see no benefit for this wiki and its contributors in being a part of the SIWA Network. In fact, I feel that our inclusion would only be beneficial for you, seeing as we have a wide exposure. We've run into loose fan organizations like SIWA before, and frankly they are not worth the bandwidth that it takes to pull up the webpage. Our experience is that such things are not professionally run and are basically glorified fly-by-night operations operated by unprofessional, doe-eyed fans with unrealistic expectations. Nothing personal against you, it is just our experience. And, as for traffic and links, we've found that being a part of a glorified "webring" has no return on investiment. A majority of new traffic has always, and without fail, come from two sources: 1) word-of-mouth (forums and social networks), and 2) search engines. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:25, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

I had 22 new visitors to my site because of SIWA. Your loss i guess. Also it really doesn't make it less offensive when you call me: unprofessional, doe-eyed fan with unrealistic expectations then say no offence. Even you should see that. Well if you change your mind, let me know. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 11:56, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

: And how many of those 22 people will stick around and contribute in the long-haul? Since there are so many Stargate wikis out there, those results aren't surprising... and, don't get your hopes up, as they will be short lived. Traffic from web rings and "alliances" is short-lived, and with extremely poor to negligible long-term ROI. I've been running websites for the last 15 years, so I am well aware of what I'm taking about.

: Furthermore, I was not making a personal attack against you: I was making a general observation about such organizations. However, since you are keen to make it about yourself: given your behavior in the past towards another member of this website (and bringing problems from an outside wiki to this Wiki directly and without provocation from us), I find ''that'' unprofessional. End of subject. Thank you for the offer, and have a splendid day. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:16, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

Wow, take it overboard much. I was going to link certain articles like actors other work here etc but because of that attitude, you can forget it [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 12:21, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

: Your attitude and sour disposition are the problems here. After all, you were the one who [[User_talk:LIMAFOX76|brought outside problems from another website to this one]]. ''You'' initiated it here. ''You'' deliberately sought the user in question, tracked them to this website, and brought ''your'' problems to an open forum instead of taking it up with the user via e-mail. ''You'' involved us, and ''I'' put a stop to it. I have no ill will towards you personally, but your immature behavior here and your inability to properly deal with issues in a mature manner exemplifies why we are careful in associating with other organizations and websites.

: At any rate, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors. Farewell. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:39, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

::Wow alcohol and wiki editing should never be mixed, i don't remember writing most of that. Back to my original idea of affiliation, one of your bsg wiki 'friends' perhaps. Many BSG actors have been on Stargate. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 01:21, 30 June 2011 (EDT)

::: We'll think about it, thanks. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:50, 30 June 2011 (EDT)

::::Any more news on this? [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 08:12, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

:::::We've thought about it, and we're not interested. Thank you for the offer, though. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:02, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

::::::Forgive me for asking, but why not? [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 03:26, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

:::::::The reasons outlined previously still apply, and we do not see the real, tangible long-term benefit in it. We've operated for a very long time without the need to "associate" ourselves with other websites as part of an alliance or organization, and given our prevalence we don't really see how it would benefit us. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:08, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

::::::::You don't see the benefit in having a couple hundred extra links to your site?...... Ok then. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 15:02, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Question: How is it that a "couple hundred extra links" equate affiliation? Anyone can add links to any wiki and not be affiliated. At best, it's link swapping. My issue with the so-called "affiliation" proposal you set before us is that you haven't presented a clear idea of what it means, only vague concepts. Your proposal lacks details on these important elements: purpose, method of execution/standards and practices, and the responsibilities of each party. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:37, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::I always thought of it more as like references on a resume (sort of) essentially that people trust your site and know that you would not affiliate with some fly-by-night operation-wiki full of useless crap. All it is is like a greenlight for users, they know that they can visit your site and it will be good, the only responsibility would be a link with any affiliates and any relevant links, which for me would probably be to actor/crew other work on either show. I don't know if you've even visited my site yet but I am growing it everyday and doing my best to reel in new users, your welcome to ask me anything about it. It's not some 142 page wikia site with no pics and a desperate admin trying to scam people. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 15:34, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::Frankly, most of our web traffic has always come from either Wikipedia or search engines, and most people can already see the quality of the Battlestar Wiki... Link swapping does not work as well as you apparently think it does. So, not sure how affiliating with your network would really be to anyone's best interest, considering that we dominate search engine results.
:::::::::::The best piece of advice I can give you is just develop content on your wiki to the best of your, and your team's, ability. Traffic will come naturally that way. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:33, 8 August 2011 (EDT)

== Electronic smockers ==

Hi Joe, There is another giant spam attack on the repository by electronic smockers. I just mark the articles and images for speedy delete. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 10:22, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

: Sadly, I've noticed that... I've been trying a few different methods to block them, and think I've managed to block them on the EN wiki. We'll see. (I've just been battling it manually as I see it.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:15, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

:: Hi Joe, I found more old spammers who were selling certificates and car insurrances. I saw also two recent uploaded files: this one and this one. What do you thing about that? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 15:57, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
::: Cool! I've also added those terms to the blacklist. As for the two files: those were uploaded by a spammer. Feel free to delete them. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:05, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
:::: Done. This spammer has been blocked too. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:13, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
::::: Hi Joe, I found iPhone spamming article on md. I added iPhone on both en and md blacklist. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:56, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::: Awesome! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:32, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::: Hi Joe, It's seems that the spamming business has goten other BW languages. I cleaned up the Chinese one and now I currently take the Spanish one but the spammers seem more subtil. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 13:08, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::: I think the Spanish wiki is cleaned now. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 15:41, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

== Senior Chief rights on FR ==

Hi Joe, I don't know if I deserve them, but I would like to ask you if it is possible to grant me Senior Chief for the [[fr:|French BW]]. Thank you for your answer (Yes or No, no problem at all). --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:17, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

: I have no problem with giving you Senior Chief access. I just need to discuss this with Shane and a few others before I flip the switch. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:28, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

:: OK, no problem for that. Thank you. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:33, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

::: Hi Joe, just getting back from holidays, I'm just here to check if you have any news. Thank you very much. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:22, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

:::: Been plenty busy myself, so I can relate! I'll upgrade you here in a bit. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:56, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
::::: Thanks a lot.--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:58, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

== Not sure this is a gaffe ==

[[He_That_Believeth_In_Me#Gaffes]] contains this final paragraph, which I think should be deleted:
:Tracey tells Baltar prior to their intercourse that the door to the group's hideout is locked and that only the two of them are in the room, but when Jeanne returns with Derrick, she is able to reenter even though both Tracey and Baltar are still asleep (presumably she said this to put Baltar more at ease).
Saying that a door is locked does not preclude the possibility of others entering. A locked door can be unlocked. Other doors on Galactica are locked with keypads (like the one rigged to blow up Romo Lampkin), and there is no reason to think Jeanne would not have the entry code. [[User:Dogger55|Dogger55]] 16:12, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

:: Many of Galactica's hatches are lockable only from one side, not both. Further, only small arms lockers and other sensitive areas have keypads. Not every door has one. This isn't the starship ''Enterprise'', after all. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:26, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

:::I wasn't sure; that's why I wrote instead of deleting or changing. However, I went back and took a closer look. When Baltar first arrives at his new home (10:45), they knock to gain entry and the door is unlocked from the inside. You see a wheel for bolting/unbolting the door on the outside and on the inside. Around 14:30, you hear the door close and the bolt turn when Paula and Jeanne leave, and no other such sounds from then until Tracey "makes her move" on Baltar and agrees that the door is locked. It seems to me that whatever means they used to secure it, the door could be locked & unlocked from either side, and was clearly locked from the outside until the time Jeanne returned. [[User:Dogger55|Dogger55]] 17:57, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

:::: OK, then make the correction. It's been a while since I've seen the episode. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:08, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

== Simple wiki ==

Theres a user that needs banning on the simple wiki - "oakley brand" [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 21:40, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

: Saw him, done. Thanks --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 01:52, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

== Operational costs. ==

I am really curious on how you are able to keep this wiki running, with only source of revenue being a few paying members, AdSense, AdBrite, and a few affiliations with Amazon and other stores. I mean I just see two ads per page, one on the top header, and one on the sidebar. [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] 10:15, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

: Actually, we're able to cover all of our monthly costs with these revenue sources. It's just finding that balance that was the issue. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:25, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

: It also helps to dominate the search results when it comes to anything BSG related. Advertisers really love that kind of thing. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:26, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

:: Really. Its kind of hard to believe. I am <s>amusing</s> assuming that, the only way this is working out is, your CPM for ads is a really high figure. Unfortunately the forum doesn't rank high in search rankings. Any plans of getting rid of the ancient vBulliten for something more SEO friendly like vanilla forums. If required I can be of some technical help. [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] 14:45, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

::: We've never made money from the forum, so that never factored much into it anyway. Thanks for the offer, but vBulletin has more than enough features that we need and vanilla forums don't seem to have the features that we need. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:55, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

== Article number on main BW portal. ==

Hi Joe, It seems that the [http://www.battlestarwiki.org main BW portal] is not up to date regarding article number on all languages wikis. Is it possible to update it or put an automatic routine to avoid manual updates? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 12:08, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

: We did have a script that updated the article count, but I would need to talk to Shane about that. Also, I'm thinking we're going to ditch that main portal and come up with something more dynamic. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:46, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

== Re-imagined categories ==

Greetings, I have a quick question, I have noticed that there seems to be "duplicate" categories for the re-imagined continuity, "RDM" and "TRS", that seems to be going along with the page renaming. What my question is, are pages supposed to be moved out of "RDM" and placed into "TRS" or something? --[[User:Typhoeus|Typhoeus]] 22:31, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

: Basically, if it's in the "RDM" universe (that means ''Caprica'', ''Blood & Chrome'', ''Re-imagined BSG'') then it's classified as RDM. Otherwise, if it is specific to one show, such as [[Helena Cain]], then it is classified under both "RDM" and "TRS". Originally, we used RDM for just the Re-imagined Series, until the spinoffs/prequels came along. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 23:04, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

== Recent spaming ==

Is it just me, or is there a recent increase in spamming? I am not around as often as I would like, so I am not entirely sure on this. If I could ask, what sort of anti spam features do you have? {{unsigned|Typhoeus}}

: It comes and goes. Basically, these are humans (instead of bots) who are paid to spam, and thus solve the captchas and the like. They have to fill out a captcha when they sign up for an account, and when they add a link in any page (new or established) a captcha will also come up. We have a blacklist for terms and the like, but that's why they come up with crazy titles for the spam pages. We've enabled a variety of anti-spam measures, but that's mostly good against automated bots. IP blocking isn't an option in these cases, as the manual spammers use proxies, and thus change their IP address every time they create a new account and spam. We could go draconian and prevent new accounts from posting, BUT then we make it extremely difficult for new contributors to actually contribute. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:31, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

:: Usually, they spam in early Europe morning, when American sleep ;-).--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 12:51, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

::: LOL! They do seem to attack in the early morning! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:31, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

:::: One more acting in USA's end of day ;-)--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:36, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

== Recent spaming (option) ==

With all the recent spamming, I think we should temporarily ban new sign ups for a while. It's just becoming too annoying seeing useless pages. I know you would disagree with the suggestion, but I see it as the only option available. [[User:CoreyDanian|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 08:58, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

: In my opinion, but I'm not the one who decides for this, It would be a mistake to do so. Yes it's annoying to see all this rubbish but by doing so, we prevent real genuine contributors to sign up and contribute, even if, for the moment there are not so many new real genuine contributors but there is still hope. Even in French Battlestar wiki, some spammers try to pollute the wiki but we are here to prevent this and to clean this wiki. They are more now, but not like Wikipedia, so we can clean quicky. But as I said first, it's just my opinion. Cheers.--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 09:26, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

: I feel the frustration, and I've even briefly considered this as an option, but I don't see it as a big enough issue to temporarily ban new sign-ups (or run them through a rigorous sign-up process). Spamming has always been an issue on any Wiki, and to lock things down in such a matter would really dissuade genuine contributors from contributing. I know it may not seem like it, but we've always been spammed, and we will continue to be spammed; the volume of spam just seems massive because we're not expanding much in the way of content, like the way we were when the show was airing.

: Further, taking into consideration that most new contributors would not waste their time trying to jump through hoops just to contribute, we would just be shooting ourselves in the foot in the long run. (Actually, it takes only a few minutes to deal with them. Delete their contributions and ban them.) We've been very good about responding to spam in a reasonably timely manner, so I really don't see the need for such draconian measures right now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:42, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:: Hi Joe, I saw the availabitily of the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof extension] on MediaWiki. Is it an answer for us against spammer usernames? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 08:28, 9 November 2011 (EST)

== DISPLAYTITLE activation on the French Wiki ==

Hi Joe, Is it possible please to set the two following parameters in the ''LocalSetting.php'' file?
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictDisplayTitle $wgRestrictDisplayTitle] to ''false'';
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowDisplayTitle $wgAllowDisplayTitle] to ''true''.
Reason: allowing permission to see episode titles like the [[:fr:Modèle:ép|<nowiki>{{ép}}</nowiki>]] template. In the same way, can you disable the automatic système which add a caps letter at each word in the title. Thank you very much. Cheers.--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 12:33, 17 November 2011 (EST)

: I'll activate these on the French wiki here in a bit. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:43, 17 November 2011 (EST)

: Activated. I'm very leery of actually deactivating the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCapitalLinks CaptailLinks] feature because of the link breakage it may cause. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:32, 17 November 2011 (EST)

:: Weird. It doesn't seem to work (see [[:fr:33 minutes|this page]] with a DISPLAYTITLE). CaptailLinks is about the first captail letter of the title. I'm talking about the others, not the first. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 13:51, 17 November 2011 (EST)

::: Ah, I added quotes around the "false" and "true" variables, and MediaWiki doesn't like that. Should work now. The only thing is that you can't use wiki syntax within the <nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE}}</NOWIKI> code, since it renders the HTML tags as text. (See the "33" page.)

::: Also, the uppercase thing for the first word is a CSS attribute (as I recall) in the style sheet, so I can fix that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:04, 17 November 2011 (EST)

:::: Is it possible to activate the wiki syntax on titles? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:48, 17 November 2011 (EST)

::::: Not that I've seen. You can only change what the title says, not how it is styled. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:18, 17 November 2011 (EST)

:::::: I think it's possible, just see the [[w:Template:Italic title|italic title]] template on Wikipedia. It is used especially for feature films and it's using wiki markup. May be it's just a parameter to set. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 15:28, 17 November 2011 (EST)

::::::: I've looked through the template, and it's impossible to do it within the DISPLAYTITLE syntax itself. The italics must be applied on the outside, like so: <nowiki>''{{DISPLAYTITLE}}''</nowiki>. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:58, 17 November 2011 (EST)

:::::::: At least, I will be able to put French quotes signe in the title. Yet, there is still First letter caps appearing on each word following the first one. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:42, 17 November 2011 (EST)

::::::::: Hi, Joe. I checked again and I think the issue can be resolved by setting the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseTidy $wgUseTidy] parameter to true in LocalSettings.php. Check out if I'm right. Best regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 07:43, 23 November 2011 (EST)

== Possible solution against spammers ==

Hi Joe, It seems that we may have a solution against spammers. It is called [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha]. Semantic MediaWiki has used it for two weeks as they were invaded by spammers like us (same username style) and the number of spammers has been largely reduced since the installation. It may be a good solution for BW. What do you think? For instance, I deleted more than 25 spammer for two days in the media repository. Best Regards.--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:14, 26 November 2011 (EST)

: Would be nice if it worked! I'll check it out and see! :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:40, 26 November 2011 (EST)

:: Have you considered the following extensions for preventing spam.

* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Check_Spambots
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalBlocking
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiBot
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleAntiSpam
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Find_Spam
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamDnsblAlternative
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TorBlock
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof

:: -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] 11:23, 4 February 2012 (EST)

::: Yes. Spamming isn't a new problem on the Wiki; it's one that we've been dealing with on and off since the site's founding in 2005. The issue is that about half the so-called "spam blocking" software doesn't actually work on "manual spammers" — i.e. actual people behind the computer solving captchas and what not. Further, many bot software programs are actually better at circumventing and solving captchas, and so it's really a constant fight to keep up.

::: Also, half the extensions in your list are either beta, outdated (only working with older version of MW), or tend to conflict with other extensions. As I recall, we did have AntiBot running once, but that didn't quite work out well. I'll have to see if that works again after I upgrade the entire system to the 1.18.x series, though. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:40, 4 February 2012 (EST)

:::: Hi Joe, I tested [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] on my English [http://stargate.wikkii.net/ Stargate Wiki] and let my [http://fr.stargate.wikkii.net French one] without. Results: 5 spam attacks in one night for the French one ([http://fr.stargate.wikkii.net/wiki/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:Modifications_r%C3%A9centes see here]) and none for the English one ([http://stargate.wikkii.net/wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges see here]). For the record, the English one was more targeted than the French one. I think it's a good solution to prevent spammer attacks, at least, spambots attacks. Best Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 03:52, 3 March 2012 (EST)

::::: It's live. Let's see how well this does. We've used something similar before, and I hope this reduces the spammer issue. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:14, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

:::::: Can you send me your questions to translate them in French please? Thank you. -- [[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 11:58, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

::::::: The questions don't have to be the same across the wikis. They can be different, and I would prefer that they were. I just have basic questions, like "What callsign is Kara known by?" etc. Come up with 5 to 10 questions with answers and just e-mail them to me, and I can put them into the backend. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:48, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

:::::::: Email sent. Thank you. -- [[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 13:56, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

::::::::: Looks like the Questy Capcha is doing a really great job. One downside though, now absolutely new comers to the BSG world will need to do some research to answer the questions before they start contributing. But, any way its not that much of a hurdle. Now, are you going to implement the same thing on the other wikis like wiki frakr. There are 127 spam articles waiting to be deleted there. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 11:16, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

:::::::::: Yes, I haven't been able to get to that though because of my move and work schedule. (Besides, Wiki Frakr is a good control to measure how effective the Questy Captcha is.) As with anything else... there is a downside to using it, but i consider it a litmus test for people who want to contribute... if you really can't be bothered to answer simple questions (or do a Google search to answer them), then what good is getting an user account here? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:52, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

== AWA ==

I did not know that you had plans of offering hosting to wiki's leaving Wikia. Interesting to note.
See: http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Anti-Wikia_Alliance#Are_there_alternatives_to_Wikia_for_hosting.3F
-- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] 06:37, 4 February 2012 (EST)
: Well, we have the resources to create a small Wiki farm. Just need the people to run the thing, really. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:21, 4 February 2012 (EST)
:: Hi Joe, For this stuff to work, what do you need exactly? I'm interrested to transfer the ''Stargate'' wikis I have, and eventually try to maintain this kind of wiki farm, if you wish. Thank you for your answer. -- [[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 08:52, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
::: Mainly: Time on my end to set up the technical stuff, which I don't have right now as I work 70+ hours a week already. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:07, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
:::: Of course ;-). Do you already have the server location? If you do, I can eventually start to build the database and main frame. -- [[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 09:15, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

== Russian ==

Is there any way you could set up a Russian version of the wiki. What would you need. Please let me know if you are interested. Since this wiki is in Case Orange Mode (Most of the best contributors are on hiatus.), I thought it is difficult to arrive on consensus now, and you would have to take the choice. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] 02:41, 22 February 2012 (EST)
:If I read well the [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project#Articles Needing Translation|translation project]], you'll have to translate first the main policies in Russian. Plus, I think it's better for you to add your username in [[Battlestar Wiki:Translation Project#Contributors|the contributors section]] under a new subsection "Russian" (doesn't exist yet). It's a good way to highlight your excellent work ;-). --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 10:13, 23 February 2012 (EST)
: What LIMAFOX said remains true. If you can translate the pertinent policies, I can do the behind-the-scenes stuff to make a Russian-language wiki live. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:26, 23 February 2012 (EST)

==Edits to my edits==

Hi Joe ... just wanted to thank you for cleaning up a few of the pages I was working on - I'm still getting the hang of editing in here so I might leave a small trail of destruction, but I'll try to keep the damage to a minimum - see you around -- (Chris) [[User:Flatulist|Flatulist]] 21:57, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

: Not a problem, Chris! Keep up the good work! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:49, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

== Spanish wiki ==

Hello! I'm [[User:Erechel|Erechel]]. You have sended me a message in which you thanked me for editing the spanish wiki, and offered me help.

I think that I'm the only active editor in it, and I've discovered several incongruences and mistakes in the wiki, but my scripting abilities are very limited. I've tried to standardize the templates in all those pages that need them, but some of them are beyond my capacity. I've tried to copy and paste the templates from the english version, and traduce wherever it's necessary, and even create some very simple template messages (stub, disambiguation, traduction in progress), but those with particular data are difficult to me.

The wiki needs some corrections in the templates, particulary {{Datos del episodio}} and {{flags}}, but some revision in the others will do no harm. Well, thank you, and I hope you help me.

Bye

==Thanks==
Just wanted to say thanks for leaving messages on the accounts that put stuff on my talk page yesterday. I wasn't sure how to handle it and you took care of it. [[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:26, 20 September 2012 (EDT)

: Not a problem! :) Not sure why someone would come up with a username that's basically nonsensical letters and numbers anyway... Having said that, I wanted to give the person in question benefit of the doubt, even though odds are that the guy was a spammer.

: Thanks for being on top of the spammer thing. I'm trying to figure out how to head these guys off so that it's not as ridiculous as it's geting. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:46, 20 September 2012 (EDT)

==B&C Uniforms==
Hey Joe. Saw you said you have access to Battlestar B&C uniforms. Is this something that we will get to see in due time? Perhaps something from ANOVOS?

[[User:Frylock86|Frylock86]]

: Yes. Can't really speak on it all right now, but exciting things are afoot. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:30, 19 November 2012 (EST)

== MD repository ==

Hi Joe, Could you please grant me local admin rights on [[:md:]] as I can make a <big>'''big'''</big>, big clean-up on it to remove spaming (using the "Nuke" special function as an example to go faster). The global admin function doesn't allow me to do it. Thank you very much. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 06:04, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: Today was a very big cleanup day: 158 spam pages deleted and 218 spammers and potential ones blocked, not counting the work I made the previous days. Completely crasy!!! Too much work to do here on the media repository.--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 16:41, 26 November 2012 (EST)

== wiki logo ==

yo. so this is out of the blue, but i'd love to contribute a new logo for the header. at least on my browser, it's never looked quite right... anything we (i) can do? or should i just shut up? [[User:Psutherlin|Psutherlin]] 21:01, 1 December 2012 (EST)

: What did you have in mind? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:04, 2 December 2012 (EST)

:: It also does not suit the bsg-light skin. If you have any ideas, which would look good on both the dark and light skins. It would be awesome. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 02:31, 2 December 2012 (EST)

:::i don't want to insult whoever created the current header, but it has always looked like a pretty rough photoshop job to me, the lines aren't very clean. i'd like to see something cleaner, more graphical.

:::this is something i did pretty quickly, inspired by the battlestar galactica online logo. it's not precisely what i had in mind (particularly the font below), but sort of in that vein. could also do something closer to what we have now, just like i said - a little cleaner... suggestions would be greatly appreciated. i have no idea what bsg-light looks like though. [[User:Psutherlin|Psutherlin]] 03:44, 2 December 2012 (EST)

<center>http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp185/i_em_no_cylon/battlestarwiki-1.jpg</center>

:::: Nice idea. I can see where you're going with this. As much as I like the idea behind the current logo (mirroring ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> wall emblem), it could use a bit more flash.

:::: I would get rid of the domain in the logo (we're not a ".com" BTW) and simply say "Battlestar Galactica Wiki".

:::: Of course, any one else following this discussion is free to share potential logo ideas, too. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:05, 2 December 2012 (EST)

:::::wow that was a pretty stupid error, wasn't it? in any case, you're right it should just say "wiki"... experimenting with different ways of doing that though. also experimenting with different textures for the phoenix symbol. have one with the surface of the ''galactica'' in the works, but also considering something reminiscent of the hull of a viper. though those might be contradictory to my "clean" look. [[User:Psutherlin|Psutherlin]] 14:38, 2 December 2012 (EST)

::::::couple more ideas... still not loving the "wiki" part. figuring all that out. second option is my favorite, though i do kind of like the third. gives you an idea of my thought process here. [[User:Psutherlin|Psutherlin]] 06:25, 3 December 2012 (EST)

<center>http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp185/i_em_no_cylon/battlestarwiki3.jpg</center>

:::::: I'd like to share this on our Facebook page, if you don't mind. Just to see what people's reactions to it are. (Obviously, it'll be noted that its a WIP and by no means set in stone.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:31, 3 December 2012 (EST)

::::::for sure. [[User:Psutherlin|Psutherlin]] 15:37, 3 December 2012 (EST)

Some initial feedback via FB here: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151309472469925&set=a.428921939924.197093.18130149924&type=1 -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:44, 8 December 2012 (EST)

:ok that's cool... they like the ones i don't really favor haha. i really just prefer the simple red one. [[User:Psutherlin|Psutherlin]] 20:30, 8 December 2012 (EST)

::so what's the consensus? [[User:Psutherlin|Psutherlin]] 00:44, 13 January 2013 (EST)

==Spammertalk==
Is there any way to hide the spammertalk updates from the 'recent changes' list? Really getting irritating to sort through... [[user:Frylock86|Frylock86]] - 06:31 PM 12/11/12 EST
: On the RC page, just change the namespace dropdown from "all" to "(Main)". You should see something [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?namespace=0&title=Special%3ARecentChanges like this]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:55, 11 December 2012 (EST)
::Hi, I think we broke the daily spamming record: 44 spammers (for now at 4.50PM CET)! Incredible. They know all the answers to the questions asked in Simple Captcha. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 10:52, 17 December 2012 (EST) - Update: '''52''' at 9:20PM CET. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 15:23, 17 December 2012 (EST)
:::If it's possible, maybe we should just temporarily shut down the registration system (two or three days?) until this spamming wave passes. -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 18:46, 18 December 2012 (EST)
::::I'll look into that.... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:56, 18 December 2012 (EST)
::::I'm rolling out the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount ConfirmAccount] extension. That should allow us to filter out most of the Cylon agents before they become a problem. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:15, 18 December 2012 (EST)

I've implemented the "Confirm Account" feature, so that should stop spammers from causing too much problem. We'll have to watch the [[Special:ConfirmAccounts]] page, but that's simpler than what's being done now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:14, 18 December 2012 (EST)

== Access to French Wiki. ==

Hi Joe, I cannot access to the [[:fr:|French wiki]]. I have a SQL database message error. I cannot connect to my UserID to. It seems that the database has really screwed up. Is it possible to fix this please? Thank you very much. Best Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 06:49, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

There are a lot of SQL errors in other wikis too. For example on the german wiki, when I klick "Recent changes": Database Error „1194: Table 'recentchanges' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)“ --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 06:31, 2 August 2014 (EDT)
: Hi Joe, I hope you're well. Did you make some repair on the French wiki? Hope so. Thank your for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 13:01, 2 February 2015 (EST)
:: Hi Joe, do you have any answer yet. If you want to simplify your task, you can create a new blank database. I will fill it. Thank you. Cheers --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 08:02, 23 April 2015 (EDT)

== Welcome back! ==

I can log in today. Congratulations on your successful repairs! -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 22:06, 30 January 2015 (EST)

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== Question Regarding BSG Forum Administration ==

I'm just curious why we have to log into the media section separately, particularly seeing as we have the same login for the main forum and the media page. Please excuse my ignorance.
[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 13:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

: From a technical standpoint, it is a different website, as are the German, Spanish, and other versions. Therefore, they require that you log into those, although your username and password are all synchronized so that they're all the same across the Wiki network. A bit annoying, but there's nothing we can really do about it, until the MediaWiki developers devise a better system. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 16:49, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

== Font search ==

Hi Joe.
Do you know what type of Font is used here:
http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/4/4a/Bscap243.jpg

--[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 16:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

: It's a font in the OCR font series... I'll see if I can get some time later to find the specific font. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 17:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

:: Great :-) Thank you. If you need, I have made an "straightened" version of the recon-pic... --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 18:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

:::Actually, I have the original files from the art department.... Which may be released into the public eventually. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 18:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

::::Hi Joe. Have you find out the right font? --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 23:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::The font is called [http://www.myfonts.com/PurchaseOptions?id[]=137952 OCR-A EF]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 23:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::Thank you very much :-)

== Rank graphics ==

Fixed the graphics for warrant officer and lieutenant colonel. *Now* they match the auction photos, eh? :)-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 01:59, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Welcome Back! ==

Your exploits of late are legendary, sir. I can only guess how abso-frakkin'-lutely awesome it was to attend the Ultimate Frak Party. You'll need to document the highlights, especially if you've had the opportunity to tell us all how popular the wiki is among the BSG cognoscenti. I would guess, fairly so. And if RDM commented, well, that's fun enough for me, too. :) The auction was hard work, to be sure, but I'm sure it was the time of your life. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 01:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:Bleh. I am still waiting for a podcast to mention us. :( [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::Me, too. I'm OK for a little fortune and glory. Maybe we need to send Ron some scotch... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 01:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I am in for that.. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:37, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== neeed help plez ==

the admin --[[User:Philyboy|P sutherland]] is harrassing me and threattening to block me if i dont do exactley what he wants help me pease [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Starbuck%3Dfofa_king_cool]

he should be bocked from f this sit
he sarted to tell me to screw of and stuff and so did the user Einheitskanzler he should be bloocked 2
he called me a loser

--[[User:Starbuck=fofa king cool|Starbuck=fofa king cool]] 20:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

: There is no such user as Einheitskanzler, you modified the welcome message that Philyboy sent you earlier and edited to appear as an attack. Given your undue disruption of the Wiki and your apparent disregard for our [[BW:CITE|citation]] and [[BW:CIVIL|civility]] policies, I have [[BW:BLOCK|blocked]] you from editing for a period of one month effective 10 July 2009. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 13:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

== First effort, then failure ==

I'd like to first thank you for providing me with my small fraction of godlike abilities on here. Although I can't help but suspect that I received them via a good deal of constant pestering on several articles, but I digress. Now, I tried to exercise my power for the first time by properly moving the Alessandra Torresani page, but I'll be damned if I didn't get an error message. So, to keep you or any of the others Powers That Be from having to do my work for me, and most importantly, keep my feeling of importance in check, is there an alternative action I perform? I was thinking about taking the article title as is and the correct one and doing a switcheroo with the contents, which would leave a good deal of subsequent work with the redirects and whatnot. Or is there something more simple I can pull off? --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 10:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
: Ok, I've gone a

head and moved the article. Could you tell me what the error message you received said? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::To the best of recollection, it was something along the lines of the name already being in use. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 14:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Original Cylon Hybrid Concept Sketches ==

http://www.auctionnetwork.com/UpcomingItem.asp?EventId=17658&ShowId=321&SortBy=-Past

[http://naveenve.cachefly.net/bsg/065.jpg Image.]

Should this be included in the Cylon Hybrid article? --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 19:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

: Sure it should! How would you include this content in the Cylon Hybrid article? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 22:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::Maybe something like [[Hybrid#Notes|this]]? --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 23:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::: That works. Also, it should be sourced as to where the image / information came from. A link to the specific lot/page where this information came from via the [http://archive.battlestarprops.com Battlestar Props archive] would work nicely. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 23:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Blue Prints ==

The blue Prints for the Olympic Carrier are from the BSG RPG Core Rule Book. Also could you please not delete them or any other ones I have put up. Could we just talk about it.

Thanks Phil --[[User:Philyboy|P sutherland]] 14:51, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

: I only removed them from the article, they weren't deleted physically from the Media Repository. ;-)

: Also, when uploading files, you want to note the source of the files. When I reviewed [[:File:Olympic Carrier Blue Prints.png|these blue prints of ''Olympic Carrier,'']] I did not see any source information on the file's description page. Hence my question. Further, the core book isn't canon, but as it is licensed, I have no problem including these links on Battlestar Wiki, as so long as their non-canon status is clearly noted. (As I've said before, if I recall correctly.) Cheers. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:51, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Just dropping in... ==

Hey Joe, long time no see! Wow; can't believe it's been'' over a year ''since I last visited. How time flies! Anyway, just wanted to toss you a "hi, how ya doing, hope you're great!" Awesome work you guys have done with this beast!! Take care bud. -- [[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 20:18, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== French Battlestar Wiki ==

Hi, I just saw the english version of BSG Wiki and checked out for the presence of a french version. I found it but almost empty (compared to the english one). I work on wiki language and I am also admin of the french version of [http://fr.stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Accueil Stargate Wiki]. I think it's possible for me to improve the french wiki site with translations and/or templates. So, is it possible please for you to give me the admin rights for the french wiki. Thank you very much. I put already this message to [[User:Shane|Shane]] and wait for the answer--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 19:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
: Shane'll set you up with everything. I'll get with him later on today or in the next few days when he's not working. Glad to have you around! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 22:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

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== RSS issues ==

Over at [[User:Steelviper/Lillian|Lillian's page]], I'm wondering if I haven't encountered some limitation of the RSS feed reader. The images that are displaying aren't the most recent, despite the fact that the [http://picasaweb.google.com/data/feed/base/user/steelviper/albumid/5090150042101485633?kind=photo&alt=rss&authkey=_RsAtgI0o_o&hl=en_US rss feed] appears updated. I tried the whole edit->save thing to force a refresh, but no dice. I just can't tell if this is some bug or if I'm just being dumb. This is obviously very low priority. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:48, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
: Yes, I see it. I am having issues with the RSS extension myself. Also, I'm trying to get it working on EWiki, so we can include VisitEureka.net's RSS newsfeed. But I'm running into problems. I'm looking into troubleshooting the problem and finding a different RSS extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 15:11, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
::Maybe [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/XFeed_-_RSS_Feed_Aggregator this]? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:19, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
== Sanity.com Removal ==

I have removed sanity.com.au sources from region 4 dvds, as i thought we could standardize our sources for merchandise. as with the region 2 dvd, you standardize on playback and amazon, so i thought that all of the sources tha"we have had" were from EzyDVD.com.au as is australias no. 1 dvd outlet, as stated on their site and it is reputable enough.--[[User:Lgamser|Lgamser]] 21:18, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
: Fair enough. Thanks! ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 21:27, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
== Happy Birthday, [[Old Man]] ==

Happy birthday! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:47, 9 December 2007 (CST)
:Ditto. The squeegee is taking a break today and has been replaced by [[Ambrosia]]. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:52, 9 December 2007 (CST)
Thank you guys! I'm taking the day "off". I like the picture in the header. LOL :P -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 16:05, 9 December 2007 (CST)
::Happy Birthday, Joe, and many returns. I hope all is well with you and yours. Best regards - [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 18:32, 9 December 2007 (CST)
:::Okay, ''babyface'', when you're old enough to have a ''beard'', you'll officially get the "Old Man" title! :) Happy birthday! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:35, 9 December 2007 (CST)
::::ROFL! Thanks for the birthday wishes! LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 21:54, 9 December 2007 (CST)
== Inviere translation ==

Checked my DVD again...while the subtitle says "resurrection", it sounds very strongly like Kendra is saying "insurrection", and I'm led to believe the subtitle is a mistake (which has been known to happen before). {{unsigned|Angreifer}}
: It's the Aussie accent that throws it off to the untrained ear, but she says "resurrection". I'll also check to see what RDM and Michael Taylor have to say about it in the commentary track. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 22:04, 16 December 2007 (CST)

== Membership ==

Paypal ref: Receipt ID: 9X1915429F322013X :) --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 04:32, 20 December 2007 (CST)
: Done. :P Thank you! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 09:02, 20 December 2007 (CST)
== My account ==

Hey this is Centurion just to let you know that the accounts "centurian" and "chicken" were mistakes and errors and that "Centurion" is my desired account.

P.s. Sorry if this is in the wrong area. {{unsigned|Centurion}} 13:12, 21 January 2008 (CST)
:Copy that. I can also make the changes. Centurion will become the only active account. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:16, 21 January 2008 (CST)
== Purgetab extension ==

I made some modifications to the Purgetab code (not changing its functionality, just cleaning up the code) and put it in [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/purgetab/ MediaWiki's SVN repository]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 05:38, 30 January 2008 (CST)
:You forgot ?> at the end of the file. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 09:27, 30 January 2008 (CST)
::I didn't forget it, I left it out intentionally. When a ?> appears at the end of a file, followed by more than one newline, that breaks stuff, and it'll be hell figuring out which file is guilty. That's why all files in the MediaWiki source "miss" their ?> tag. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 10:26, 30 January 2008 (CST)
:Thanks Catrope! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 13:15, 30 January 2008 (CST)
== Block ==

I blocked that guy over at the German Wiki. He brought up the issue again, so it's for 1 month. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:36, 5 February 2008 (CST)
: That's fine. That guy is clearly desperate for a link to his site from us and would go to any lengths to get it... *sigh* -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 19:02, 5 February 2008 (CST)
== Anti-Gtalk? ==

:) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:08, 6 February 2008 (CST)
== Username ==

Thanks for changing my username... Just one last issue and I'll be all set: I need my username changed on the Media Wiki portion of the site (Sgalovan to "Galjamspe"). I posted on the noticeboard there, but I don't think it is checked often.

Thanks again.

--[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 22:10, 19 March 2008 (CDT)

: Glad to hear that everything is working for you! I'll get right on the MW name change as well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 22:11, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
== Aspect ratio frakup fixed ==

I did a batch job on the pictures and re-uploaded them. Looks better now and I should have seen that before. Unfortunately, I didn't have the original bmps anymore, so the picture quality suffered a little bit. But in most cases, I don't think you can tell without a direct comparison. Better than from an AVI source in any case. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 23:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
== FA ==

I was about to swap out the FA, but noticed that apparently I don't have to wear that hat. Thought we could go ahead with of of the other two picked out on the debate page. --01:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
== Hey ==

Hey thanks again for fixing my username's. I'm really new, so I'll try to keep this short and reserve any questions for something that can be answered by the websites documentation.

Regarding ways to contribute, I really like adding/upgrading the Wiki's images... I think it really helps bring the encyclopedia alive. I'm curious about copyright's, is it okay to Photoshop images to remove logo's, names, etc. to make the image more presentable for the Wiki provided I disclose credit for the source? How far does "fair use" go? When should I ask for permission to use an image? Also, if you see the this [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Daru_Mozu[article]] you may notice I replaced the image for the Daru Mozu (the top right image above ship specs). I saved it the image as .png with a transparent background... I think this looks really nice and would like to do it for all the ships... But I figured I should probably check with someone as they may have different preferences. Another thing I've been doing is fixing broken links on the website using a this [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/532 [Firefox extension]] is this a valid effort? Or is there some bot or something that checks for this. In summary, I just wanted to check with someone else to make sure I'm making helpful contributions... If there is any projects that need help, I'm all good for that too, maybe something close to the stuff I've just talked about? Thanks a lot. --[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 01:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
:The link checker could have double problems. Articles not created come up as bad links. URL that goto sites might the only use. If you have access tot he Zioc images -- go for it. Upload new versions and replace them. If there officially from Zioc, and the source is from Zoic, go for it. The removing text and logo is a problem if it comes from a TV source because it then becomes a problem.. how did you get it? Where did this image come from? etc. Text is also there for a reason.. I am guessing to tell a plot line to keep us imformed. Joe will explain more, but that is my take on it. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
: The issue with saving images as PNGs is that certain browsers *cough* IE *cough* have problems rendering PNGs properly. As for "fair use", the issue is that it isn't a carte blanche thing, which is why we don't have episode galleries (which are technically illegal) and we've been careful in what pictures we add. However, if you do have access to Zoic pictures, then by all means add them. We'll take those over most screenshots any day of the week... However, it's best to keep the Zoic logos intact on them, just to cover our asses, as it were. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 04:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
:: The image I uploaded of the Daru Mozu came up fine in IE7... I do know from past experiences that IE6 does have the problems you mentioned. I don't know how many people are still on IE6, I know I waited a little while before I updated just because when the new browser came out it didn't quite have full compatibility with some sites. Hopefully were talking about the same issue here... If there is something wrong on IE7 then do tell. As long as most current browsers support it, I think it still might be worth considering, completely up to everyone else though... I for sure understand the need to support all visitors to the site (no matter what browser they may be using). Also, should I keep the image as high-res as possible (original dimensions) so long as the resolution isn't too crazy? I for one really like to be able to zoom up and see detail on posted images. Back to the Photoshoping of images, for example there is a great image off of [http://www.leestringer.com/Images/Print/Galactica_Fleet_11x17_150dpi_v003.jpg Leestringer.com] that i'd like to replace as the main image for this [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/The_Fleet_(RDM)[article]]. But I'm not sure about including the text at the bottom of the image. Thanks again for the help. --[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 05:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
:::There is a small image tutorial [[Battlestar Wiki:Tutorial (Images)|here]]. Basically it's <nowiki>[[File:blah.jpg|thumb|(left/right)|caption]]</nowiki>. High-res pictures are fine, but if they're like 5000*3000 it might be better to upload two versions. As for photoshops. That one is still ok, but I think that they should resemble the tv images as closely as possible, when used main image. A lot of those CGI renders look pretty artificial, detail notwithstanding. Alright as additional image, but not so as main image. Just in my opinion. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
== Removal of item ==

FYI, I removed that because I thought it wasn't really interesting. I think the only place that really had that title was GoBetweenInc. Maybe some others copied it too. But never mind. This is no big deal. So let's keep it :) -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 20:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
: That's fine. I wouldn't have given it any thought, but Brad did correct it. That being the case, it's worth noting. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 20:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
== Marilyn Norry ==

Is Marilyn Norry credited in the actual episode credits? She was initially credited for this episode in IMDb, but was since removed there. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 01:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
: Yes, she's credited in the end credits, which is where I snagged the corrected name. Also, for the record, I wouldn't rely on IMDb for sourcing... It's pretty bad, particularly when episodes haven't aired yet. It's not so bad when the episode has aired and people have had time to add corrections to the filmographies, but... it's still kinda like playing Russian roulette. By the way, sourcing IMDb is actually against our [[BW:CJ|citation guidelines]]... the only reason I went ahead and referenced it in those early articles was because people were actually searching us for those terms, and I had a desire to tell people "hey, this info comes from IMDb, but it isn't the most reliable". (As you can see from the footnotes.) ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 02:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::Any idea who Chronides is? I suspect she might actually be one of the Quorum delegates from "The Ties...". [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 02:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:::That might be the case. Or even a member of the press... We have a picture of her though, and we might be able to catch her upon review of the episode. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 02:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I think I found her: [[:Image:4x03 Reza Chronides.jpg]]. She's one of the Quorum delegates. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 02:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
== Re: talk page ==

Hey Joe, I'm confused by the placement of a "deletion discussion" tag on [[Talk:Guess What's Coming to Dinner]]. If that's the next aired episode, why is it up for deletion, and new comments discouraged (in the tag)? Was that tag placed there by mistake, maybe? [[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 16:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
: The talk page was originally the talk page for "Into the West", until it was moved to "Talk:Guess What's..." However, the tag still remained, despite the fact that it should have been removed. Sorry for the confusion. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 16:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
== Look @ Recent Changes with Show Bot On ==

I got [[User:TaskBot]] working again. On the media wiki, the tag bot is working. I didn't want to check all 3k images, but it checks the last 100 each 24 hours. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
: Sweet! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 14:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:: That's 100 uploaded :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::: We should really have the bot slugging through all 3k+ files to ensure they are properly tagged. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 14:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: It would for sure be a one time check because I have to set it to 3k previous uploads. Then put it back at the last 100 or so. I would remove the timer so it doesn't take forever. LOL! [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: System crashes when I try to check 2000+ with "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1433601 bytes) in /home/bsgwiki/w/includes/OutputPage.php on line 729". So... that's the problem. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::: Bah... humduck. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::"Nevermind. I found the offset area. So I can start "later in". Some of the images we have on the media wiki were imported from EN if you remember, so that upload RC is not there. So at least it will check all the recent stuff except like 611 files. We had uploaded excatly 3002 files since we made media wiki. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
== Uploading images as transparent .PNG's ==

Real quick, I never received an answer to my question regarding the transparent PNG's... I know your original answer was that Internet Explorer 6 has problems displaying them properly, a fact I also know to be true, but I have tested the graphic I uploaded for the [[Daru Mozu|Daru Mozu]] in several popular browsers: Internet Explorer 7, Mozilla Firefox, Safari, Opera and Camino. All of these browsers display the graphic just fine. I think the large majority of the BSG Wiki's target crowd would be on such browsers as well. Unfortunately, as of April 08 28.9% of internet users are still browsing via IE6 according to this [http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp source]. This is however a large reduction of IE6 users from early 06 where IE6 accounted for approx 60% of all internet browsing. Personally, I think it's safe to say that the users of this site are part of the 70% of internet users who have swapped IE6 for a better browser. Besides, people with IE6 can still view the image itself, just not the transparent background... Which is essentially the same look on the website right now anyways: the image with a solid background (in many cases at least). At worst, this transition would mean a considerable aesthetic increase for people using modern browsers and a slight decrease in aesthetics for people using older browsers (in most cases at least). However, I don't think anyone will be hurt by the .PNG's because everyone is using a modern browser. I won't make mention of this topic anymore if the same answer still stands, although I do think it deserves additional consideration given how sweet the [[Daru Mozu|Daru Mozu]] graphic looks!

Thanks! --[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 02:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

: My only main objections to going PNG:
# Programs that save to the PNG format are notorious for loading up PNGs with worthless data that increases the file size, thus increasing bandwidth and site download times; this can be avoided using certain programs, or tweaking certain settings, but if you're of the "click, click, click" mentality then this goes completely out the window. (In particular when we get slammed during first run episodes.) It is simply easier for us to use JPGs for all of our images due to the file size and bandwidth issues.
# Secondly, IE 7 [http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngs-img-ie7w32.html still does ''not''] have complete and full support of the PNG format; like everything else Microsoft produces, it is... incompetently produced, for want of mature terminology. Checking our recent statistics via our web server, I see that 45% of our audience still uses IE: 13% use IE6, 32% use IE7.
: Regardless to say, because of those two reasons, I am wholly against full scale implementation of the PNG format on the wiki. I'll reevaluate this stance when these errors have been rectified, particularly on the IE 7 level. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 02:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
== Battlestar Pegasus wiki ==

Hey Joe, you started [http://en.battlestarpegasus.com/wiki/Main_Page that project] too, didn't you? Surprised you don't have it linked on your user page. Also, think we can get SUL enabled there? --[[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 03:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
: Yeah! Unfortunately, from what [[User:Shane|Shane]] and [[User:Catrope|Catrope]] tell me, SUL can only work on one domain; i.e. "battlestarwiki.org" logins won't work on "battlestarpegasus.com"... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 04:14, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:: We are still looking into it. So don't worry! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
== [[Humanoid Cylon speculation]] rewrite ==

Dear Mr. Beaudoin:

I did not realise that you had begun (in your words) a massive fucking rewrite to the Humanoid Cylon speculation page when I added another paragraph to the Duala analysis, concerning her ethnicity. It is, of course, still there on the regular Humanoid Cylon speculation page, but not on your reboot in progress.

Good luck on the re-write. That page could certainly use it and, admitedly, I caused some of the mess.

Sincerely,

/s/
David A. Miley
new around here

: David, call me Joe. :) Anyway, I'm undergoing the re-write... obviously, I'm going to bring it up for discussion on the talk page, since I'm sure it's gonna get revised repeatedly. Basically, the page will assume that Three is telling the truth and that the Last Cylon isn't in the Fleet, and is therefore elsewhere. Which means it isn't Dualla, Cottle, an Adama, or really anyone in the Fleet. Also, Ron has basically re-confirmed just recently that none of the people in [[The Last Supper]] picture, so everyone in that is thrown out, including Baltar and Roslin. Anyway, [[Humanoid Cylon speculation/Reboot|read the page]], let me know what you think. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 22:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Joe:

Well, that all makes sense. Don't forget to delete the bullet point about Sharon under the esoteric theories at the bottom, now that she has a whole section.

/s/
David A. Miley
== re: Which Richard Thompson? ==

Hi Joe,

I don't think Richard is currently listed on the IMDb. However, he and I were sitting on the set the other day, and he was trying to remember the name his character had been given. He couldn't think of it, so I decided to do a search of the Marines on the wiki, and lo and behold, there he was.

Richard started playing a Marine in season 1, and has continued to do so right up through the finale, which we're filming right now. {{unsigned|Zeppo}}

: Very cool. Nice to know! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 21:34, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
== Help me Joe B Kenobi, you're my only hope :D ==

Joe,

Firstly i'd like to congratulate you on a top notch job on Battlestar wiki. It never dissapoints and it looks super slick. stupidly enough, i've left it until very recently to actually register, as opposed to just visiting all the time. I'd like to thank you for taking time to read this also and I hope I have not wasted your time by the end of the post.

Basically, I need you help. I am re-creating the BSG seal that sits nicely above the CiC door. I am making it out of wood and all the pieces you see on it are all individually shaped, sprayed, and then assembled. creating the pieces, eg. the caprican crest in the centre are not hard to make. the proplem is the colours used for the paint. I cannot get an accurate reading from a picture of the real thing and most other pictures have a light shining down on it and distorts the colour.

would you, or any of your colleagues know where I could find out the colour chart? it would be greatly appreciated. I am creating it for use in my own home. something to spruce the place up a bit.

Thanks again for taking time out and once again, I hope I did not waste your time as I realise this might a very unorthodox post.

Sincerely

Nick "Joker" Lawless
Galway
Ireland

: Joker, I've replied to you on the Battlestar Forum, and it's certainly ''not'' a waste of my time. Basically, I can probably snag a color chart from the department crew when I'm in Vancouver for the research and cataloging we're doing for the [http://www.battlestarprops.com Battlestar Galactica Props & Costumes Auction]. I can't tell you when exactly I'll be able to get that information to you, but we do plan on interviewing people from the show for the Battlestar Props website, and we do have access to the crew up there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 16:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== Razor script ==

I sent you an e-mail before I saw you say that you preferred being contacted here.

It mentioned in the Helena Cain sources that you read the script for Razor. Where'd you read it? -- [[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 21:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

: Well, I've already e-mailed you back. :D (I've readded your comments here, since people may have the same question you do... :-) )

: However, for people who may have the same question on their minds... I am the research assistant for PropWorx's Battlestar Galactica auction, and as such I have access to the production materials (scripts, reference photos, art, etc.) for the show to aid in research. I can't make copies of the scripts available online, since the WGA and the production company would have my head, and will never give me permission to do so. Hence my "on this date, Joe read that this character comes from this place..." notes in the sources pages. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 23:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Protecting the Ranks Page ==

I read your comment and wanted to ask if you even looked at the reasoning behind my changes. I'm glad to know somebody is here who actually has reliable information because admittedly a lot of what I've got is based on speculation. However as I commented to Serenity, I think it unfair that he constantly reverses all my changes without even looking at them (this isn't the only page I've battled with him over) and I feel like you just did the same thing. If you are going to lock it ok but at least look at the two conflicting versions and decide which parts of each should go up in the interim, because they way it is now, it's simply not fair. I believe some of my changes warrant being up there now such as my removal of ranks for which their is no support at all (Vice Admiral and Senior Chief Petty Officer) and the addition of certain people to the rank lists. I have felt from the time I joined like I couldn't do anything, any changes I made were promptly undone and I felt like if I complained I'd get booted out entirely since he is an administrator, if you want a truely open community everybody has to feel like they can participate and to tell you the truth, I have not felt that way at all. I know you don't want me to take it personally, but if you were in my position, wouldn't you?
: A couple things... I understand where you're coming from. I do see that Serenity contacted you earlier this month via your talk page, explaining his reasons why he reverted your changes when you joined. (You're fear of retribution for offering criticism or complaint is unwarranted, and something you projected upon yourself; simply put, you didn't know either way, but assumed the worst. We can't control that. Fact of the matter is that you didn't respond to him the first time.) That being said, I will ask you this: what would you have done if our roles were reversed?
: As for the issue of reviewing your edits, I did review them. you did make massive changes that were incorrect both factually and aesthetically. There actually is a "senior chief petty officer" rank, for instance, and there is logic behind there being a "vice admiral" rank (or similar, it may be called "senior admiral"), since it's been established that there's a "rear admiral". Further, there was absolutely no need for the "Razor, Part I" and "Razor, Part II" designations you've assigned, since "Razor" is one whole episode. (It has two production numbers for budgetary reasons, since they had to rebuild the sets for "Pegasus" after they'd been struck after Season 3. The production team members I've talked to considers that outing an interesting experience.) Not to mention the capitalization issues that you've added back in—it is bad form to capitalize ranks or titles, unless you're referring to a specific person when doing so, like Commander Adama or Admiral Cain.
: Further, as I noted on Serenity's talk page, I am fully cognizant of the fact that editing the contested article now would be a waste of time and resources for both parties concerned, simply because there is new information available to us that needs to be entered, information that I have access to. Once I get the opportunity to add that data from the reference materials I have, then I'll open it up again, and then both sides can make the determination on whether or not this issue was really worth all the hassle. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 05:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== MKI Viper in S4E1 ==

Joe,
It took me several views before I noticed that there was one there. In S4E1: He That Believeth In Me, at about 4:30, look at the Viper behind Tyrol when he yells 'Get that showboat bird in the tubes!'. You can see that it's the older style by the square wing, instead of the more triangular ones on the newer versions. I only noticed it when my computer happened to freeze at that exact moment-I saw it, and thought 'Hey, that's the MKI from the miniseries!'
That's the only other time I've ever seen it, I never shows up in the battle, it just looks like another cool little reference to the original series. {{unsigned|Marauder Pilot}}

:I don't see it. If you mean the one in the foreground, that's clearly a Mark II engine-wise. You can't even the see´forward edge of the wing because some deckhands are standing in front of it. The one in the background is a Mark II as well. And then he walks by a Mark VII on the right. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

:: Referencing the available production materials (script and photos), as well as footage from the screen, it's a Mark II. Not a Mark I. They don't have a standing Mark I Viper anyway, just Mark IIs and Mark VIIs. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 01:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Yeah, that's what I thought. Would have surprised me. It might ''theoretically'' be one of the planes in the CGI set extension, but that's somewhat unlikely as well. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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== {{tl|bsgwiki term}} ==

8) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 06:01, 16 May 2007 (CDT)

== Sanfam contact thread ==

I posted a question over at [http://tgm.firstones.com/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Beaudoin_Jr. tgm]. I only left this here as it is likely that it'll trigger an email. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:09, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

== Pipe sign ==

You don't need to do <code><nowiki><nowiki>|</nowiki></nowiki></code>, <code><nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki></code> does the trick. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 14:29, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
: Ah... Forgot about that. Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 14:30, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

== Lushina.com ==

An [http://forums.techiwarehouse.com/viewtopic.php?t=2273 online friend] of mine started a [http://lushina.com/submit.php link directory] at [http://lushina.com Lushina.com]. Submission is free, so maybe Battlestar and Sanctuary Wiki can go there? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 07:54, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
: Worth a try. Thanks! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 09:33, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
::Interesting site but do people still use link directories any more? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:43, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
:::No idea. Can't hurt, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 13:37, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
:::With Google around, not really. However, as Catrope said, it doesn't hurt to get listed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 20:58, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

== Polish Wiki ==

Hello,
I'm interested in set up the Polish version of BSG Wiki. Translating [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions/pl:Battlestar Wiki:Standardy i Konwencje|first article]] and gathering the crew is in progress. :) But I have several questions to you.
1. How it is with links in articles, that is being translating? For example if I have a link to "[[Water]]" episode, do I should change it to link to the "[[Water/pl: Woda]]", even if that article isn't existing yet?
2. Spoilers. I don't really know, how to solve this issue. To be honest, '''no''' BSG episode has been aired in Polish TV yet. We have been watching it in foreing channels. So how should I treat the spoilers? What informations are spoiler informations? All? None?
This is all for now. Hope my Engilsh is good enough to be understood by you. :)
--[[User:Glizda101|Glizda]] 04:22, 26 May 2007 (CDT)
:I can help with this.... right now in order to have the basic "[[Battlestar_Wiki:Translation_Project#Articles_Needing_Translation|things]]" ([[Battlestar_Wiki:Translation_Project/Required_Translations_for_Own_Wiki|plus here]]) need for your own wiki to function. We can take the "pl" files here on the and important them into the pl namespace... pl.battlestarwiki.org. They way you would link a pl.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Woda with en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Water is add <code><nowiki>[[en:Water]]</nowiki></code> to the bottom of the "Woda" page as explained in the [[BW:SAC#Category_Rules|BW:SAC]] and [[BW:INTER]]. Then the interwiki bot maintains the links on all the wikis so everything is cross-referenced. Spoiler information is then BASED off the English wiki if it doesn't "Air" per say in Poland. Any questions? Hope this helps. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 05:50, 26 May 2007 (CDT)
::Thank you for these informations. But, if you don't mind, I have one more question. If I want to create Polish article about "Water" episode I should name this article "Water/pl: Woda", yes? And when Polish Wiki will be created this article appear there automatically and it will be named "Woda"? Correct me, if I've understood wrong. --[[User:Glizda101|Glizda]] 10:50, 26 May 2007 (CDT)
:::Correct. For now do it here on the sub-page and I will move it later on the Polish wiki and we will rename it to just "Woda". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:02, 26 May 2007 (CDT)
== Nested collapsible tables fix ==

Nested collapsible tables don't seem to work very well ([[Battlestar Wiki talk:Think Tank/Episode airdate information#Status.3F|example]]). I've written a fix which makes nested coll. tables possible at [[User:Catrope/bsgbook.js]]. To implement this site-wide, you need to find the collapseTable() function (it's somewhere in a .js file, although I have no idea where exactly) and replace:
<pre>
function collapseTable( tableIndex )
{
var Button = document.getElementById( "collapseButton" + tableIndex );
var Table = document.getElementById( "collapsibleTable" + tableIndex );

if ( !Table || !Button ) {
return false;
}

var Rows = Table.getElementsByTagName( "tr" );

if ( Button.firstChild.data == collapseCaption ) {
for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
Rows[i].style.display = "none";
}
Button.firstChild.data = expandCaption;
} else {
for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
Rows[i].style.display = Rows[0].style.display;
}
Button.firstChild.data = collapseCaption;
}
}
</pre>
with:
<pre>
function collapseTable( tableIndex )
{
var Button = document.getElementById( "collapseButton" + tableIndex );
var Table = document.getElementById( "collapsibleTable" + tableIndex );

if ( !Table || !Button ) {
return false;
}

var Rows = Table.getElementsByTagName( "tr" );

if ( Button.firstChild.data == collapseCaption ) {
for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
if(Rows[i].parentNode.parentNode.id == ("collapsibleTable" + tableIndex))
{
Rows[i].style.display = "none";
}
}
Button.firstChild.data = expandCaption;
} else {
for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
if(Rows[i].parentNode.parentNode.id == ("collapsibleTable" + tableIndex))
{
Rows[i].style.display = Rows[0].style.display;
}
}
Button.firstChild.data = collapseCaption;
}
}
</pre>
If you think this code may break anything, add
<pre>
import_external('User:Catrope/bsgbook.js');
</pre>
to [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr./bsgbook.js]] and try it out. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:15, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

: Cool, I'll get it implemented sometime later tonight, after I get off work. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 11:20, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::When you've done that, would you please delete [[User:Catrope/bsgbook.js]]? TIA --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 12:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Apparently someone beat me to deleting your bsgbook.js. Anyway, the file in question is "common.js", and the site-wide one can be found at [[MediaWiki:common.js]]. (As one would anticipate, it is protected.) I did update it, but there seems to be an issue with it, at least on my end... See the talk page of the Think Tank in question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 23:46, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, Spence deleted my page before you got the chance. I think your problem is that you have to do a hard refresh on the talk page: Shift+Reload button in Firefox 2.0. I did that and it works for me now. BTW, I also informed the official maintainer of the collapsible tables JS of my fix (coincidentally, he's Dutch too), and he said he'd verify it and merge it into the main branch when he gets back from his vacation. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 02:35, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
== Deleted redirects ==

I noticed you deleted [[401]] and [[4.01]], while I ''intended'' for [[403]] and [[4.03]] to be deleted. The nastyness here is that when you click the "Article" button on a redirect's talk page, it'll go to the redirect target (rather than the redirect itself). So please delete [[401]] and [[4.01]] and restore [[403]] and [[4.03]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:49, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Where should 403 go then? He That Believath in Me? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 16:02, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Ok, so I've redirected [[403]] and [[4.03]] to He That Believeth in Me... The issue is, however, we don't seem to have an official production number for that episode. (From the comments I've read so far, it seems that the Razor is considered a part of Season 4 and may just be episodes "401" and "402". -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 16:08, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I just noted that on the Razor talk page. The movie is 4.01 and 4.02. But that's production numbers. When people say "first episode of Season 4" they probably mean "He That Believeth In Me". Anyways, this also needs to be corrected in the episode data templates, unless those aren't meant for production numbers. ARG! Confusion --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Don't the TV magazines list the episode number? If that is the case, we'd better just delete the 4?? and 4.?? redirects and wait until January for HTBIM's episode number. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 06:31, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
== A "Welcome Bot" ==

I was looking around, and I found this: http://botwiki.sno.cc/wiki/Python:Welcome.py Should we create? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 07:08, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:While I'm usually all about saving time, it seems to me that there's some value to a personal greeting. When someone went to thank the bot for their welcome, the feeling of camaraderie may be... reduced. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:36, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::A welcome bot doesn't seem very useful for me: we usually manage to welcome new users quite fast (sometimes even within 5 minutes of registration). The upside of the welcome bot is that it can automatically block disallowed usernames, which is quite useful. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:55, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:I'm going to echo SV's statement here: I feel that users should be proactive in welcoming users, since it's an "icebreaker" of sorts. Also, we don't have a problem with welcoming users; as Catrope indicated, we welcome users fairly quickly, which is nothing short of awesome, in my book. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 16:13, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::Ditto. I'm happy how the process has matured over the years when I got into the swing of doing them...it's nice and personal, unlike a Cylon. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:35, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Aye. You mentioned it once... Just wanted you to know :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 07:22, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
== You should.. ==

Restore all your old chats and have the bot archive'em. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:35, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
: Should I do them as subpages or merely copy and paste all of them into my talk page? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 21:41, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
::Copy them in order on this page and the bot will do it automatically. Sub-pages would be bad. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:52, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
:::That figures. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 21:54, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Fire the "laser", Dr. Evil. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 22:01, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Fire the "laser" is now working on your talk page. Lower case "k" is different from upper-case "K". 6 archives created. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:33, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Heh. Go figure. Thanks Shane! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 22:47, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::The bot author was trying to figure out also why 146 archives were in the queue to be made. It was so crazy, I was going to flip out. lol. But in the end, simple error is to blame. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 22:58, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
== Gtalk for a min ==

Update. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:10, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
: Answered. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 21:18, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:: New idea! Gtalk :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:20, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

== I'm back! ==

Back after a bit of a haitus for various reasons. Personal life issues and various other things. I just got back from [[w:Glastonbury Festival|Glastonbury]] so i'm a bit knackered atm but will get back to work this week here on the wiki etc. With the exception of my best friends wedding on the weekend of the 8th im now back and ready for action. If somsone could update me on whats going on and stuff by email I would be really grateful, cheers. Matt --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:24, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

== Translating Templates ==

Hello, as you remember or not, I'm trying to do something to create polish version of BSGWiki. ;) And I've got a question about translating templates. In this Japan-translated template - [[Template:Episode Data (jp)]] - in the examples section we've got all in Japan langauage. I mean, all, inculding words like "Director", "Previous", etc. What I have to do to have all in Polish in examples on this template page: [[Template:Episode Data/pl:Szablon:Dane odcinka]]? I've translated all things from the top of the page, all this stuff describing this frame with data. But in examples section there is all in English still. I propably don't know about something obvious or do some stupid mistake, bu, please, help me with this. :) {{unsigned|Glizda101}}
: You'll have to edit the examples manually by changing out the English phrases with Polish ones. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 23:58, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
:In less technical terms, that means changing all occurrences of <code>{{{season</code> with <code>{{{sezon</code> (or whatever the Polish word is, I thought it was sezon). BTW, I'm amazed at the speed with which you translate all that stuff. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 05:25, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
::Thanks for the praise. :) But I still don't know what I have to change... Maybe I'm stupid, but plese, try to explane me it in a very simply way. Do I have to change all this world in template, which are finished with "="
<pre>
({{Episode Data
| image=
| title=
etc...)?
</pre>
::I see that in this japan-translated template there is still all in English...
::I change all those thing on the top of the page:
<pre>
(|- style="text-align: center;"
! class="infoboxheader" colspan="3" |'''"{{{title|{{PAGENAME}}}}}"'''
[[List of All Episodes|Odcinek]] ''{{#switch: {{{series|}}}
etc...)
</pre>
::There is "Odcinek" instead of "Epizode". And I really don't know what more I should do to have Polish template... Really sorry for those problems, I understand that it can be irritating... {{unsigned|Glizda101}}
:::No problem. The changes you need:
<pre>
{{Episode Data
| (Polish word for image)=
| (Polish word for title)=
etc.
</pre>
:::And translate all occurences of <code>{{{image</code>. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 14:41, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Argh... Look - I did all changes you were talking about (anyway, I think I did :)) and still nothing - [[Template:Episode Data/pl:Szablon:Dane odcinka]].--[[User:Glizda101|Glizda]] 03:40, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::The demo thing on the bottom of the page still used the English version. I set that to Polish (see also page history), and it works now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 04:54, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::O, thank you very much. :) I would never think it up. Thanks once again. :) --[[User:Glizda101|Glizda]] 05:18, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
== [[User:Veeps]] ==

Are you sure you didn't mean for [[User:Veepz]] to become a trusted rather than Veeps? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 06:41, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
:I think Catrope is right, I wondered why I couldn't see 'move' a top the page. Thought it took time for it to activate or something. -- [[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 09:59, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
::I've corrected it. Veepz now can move pages and Veeps cannot. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:34, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
:::Thanks Spence. BTW, I ''may'' have been the person who created User:Veeps a long time ago. I don't know for sure. I created Veepz because I couldn't remember my old one, whatever it was, and Veeps was taken. I do wonder... -- [[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 10:44, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Someone with checkuser rights could probably check that. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:47, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
:::::Unfortunately, CheckUser only works if the user's logged in within the lifespan of RecentChanges (which means basically 30 days, give or take). Since User:Veeps (with an S) hasn't logged in within that time period, CheckUser is useless. I'd have to access the database directly and pull up the appropriate table, which may or may not yield anything either. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 11:59, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
::::::Don't bother. The Recentchanges table is the only place that stores IPs. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 12:40, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
:::::::Yes, but I was going to check whether or not Veeps had an e-mail address attached to the account... When I have the time. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 12:42, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
: Bah. A [[Joe Palladino|command frakup]]. Sorry about that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 11:13, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
::Well, you know we're here for ya, Joe P. Let you keep up on your [[Kataris]]. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:37, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
== Times publicity ==

Do you guys run statistics software (e.g. AWStat) that can tell whether we've gotten any more traffic from timesonline.co.uk due to their coverage of us? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 16:25, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
: I just checked. We have Webalizer installed and monitoring frakr.com, but we never enabled it for the battlestarwiki.org, more out of laziness if anything... and the fact that we had to disable the stats software on our old, old server when the site was being besieged. I've just enabled it now, since we can handle it now. So we'll see. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 16:32, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
::I had to add that to the "news" on the Main Page. We don't get that much opportunity for self-aggrandizement, and the wiki community should be proud to be noticed. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:14, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
:::Cool. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 21:51, 19 August 2007 (CDT)

== Saw your note on marveldatabase ==

Hi Joe,

long time no chat. I see you've been busy - I'm an avid reader of your blog.
I saw your comments about our new skins at marveldatabase.com. I'd be happy to walk you through all the current functionality and the new stuff that's coming too!

[http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil] ([http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil Talk ]) from Wikia

: Hi Gil! I've replied on your World Wikia page, [http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil#Marvel_Database_Skin_and_other_things here]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 17:54, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

== Foreign Wikis ==

I thought you might wanna know the following things:
* The Chinese Wiki is [http://zh.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5 not working]. You (or Shane) might wanna check whether it's running the latest version of MediaWiki (1.10), 'cause AFAIK the cur table (which the error message complains is missing) is something of the past. I'll check mediawiki.org later, as it's offline now.
* The [[fr:|French Wiki]] is at 93 articles now, nice addition to our milestone list ;)
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:09, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

: The Chinese Wiki has been a known issue; something occurred with the databases it used when we've upgraded to 1.10. Just FYI, all the wikis run 1.10, since we use only one instance of the software (via symlinking), and when that instance is updated, all the wikis are simultaneously updated. Shane was trying to figure it out, and it's something on my list, but it's a low priority for me at the present time. (We may just take it offline until further notice.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 10:31, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
::I see. You might wanna check whether you've got the settings right, i.e. that the bsgwiki_zh database actually exists, that the table names aren't prefixed, etc. If the nonexistent cur table proves to be your only problem, you could ask the folks on the #mediawiki channel on FreeNode for SQL code that'll create an empty cur table (it needn't have any content; since 1.5, all that info is stored in the page table). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 10:52, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
:::I recreated the cur file from an old mediawiki install. That seems to have worked. Thanks! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 12:13, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
== Feelin' Chicken ==

8) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 10:44, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
: [[rc:Frakking Galactica|Indeed.]] -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 10:58, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
== SkinTemplate.php ==

Nice job on the image tabs. If you can provide a diff between the MediaWiki 1.10 version of SkinTemplate.php and your modified version, I may be able to add this feature in MediaWiki 1.11 (I have commit access to the MediaWiki SVN). I may also be able to find a cleaner way of translating Bild: back to Image: (which should be possible). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 16:24, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
: Actually, all the work I did is between lines 801 and 889 of the file. I did not modify anything else outside that. Of course, any ways you can find to improve the addition would be great -- and even more so if you can get something like this committed in the next MediaWiki release. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 17:15, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
: :o Commit Access? I been trying to get that for a while. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:48, 28 August 2007 (CDT)
::Whether you get it depends on what you want it for. Before summer break I've been helping out Yuri Astrakhan with his bot API (I intend to continue doing so now that school has started again), and at a certain point in time he suggested I start a new branch (called apiedit) for state-changing actions in the API and he requested commit access for me. Anyway, I'll look at ll. 801-889 some day this week and see if I can improve anything. When I'm done improving and all, I'll commit it to the trunk (mentioning your name, of course). Note, though, that it's possible some top guy at MediaWiki (like Rob Church, who is essentially in command of the MediaWiki code) decides this addition doesn't belong in the trunk (should be an extension or something like that) and takes it out again. Whatever happens, I'll keep you updated on the fate of your writing. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:16, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

I've had a quick look at your code, and I think I can generalize it and make it easily configurable for other wikis. However, I have one question:
if ( !$istalk || $wgOut->showNewSectionLink() ) {
if ( $isimage == NS_IMAGE || $wgOut->showNewSectionLink() ) {
This if construct looks very weird to me. Firstly, ''all'' talk pages show new section links, so the first if() doesn't exclude any pages at all. The second if() restricts the tabs to only those pages that are in the Image: namespace OR have a new section link (the + next to the edit tab) on them (i.e. all talk pages). In some weird way these tabs don't appear on all talk pages, so I'm missing something here. Could you explain why you wrote this if construct the way you wrote it and didn't just use
if($this->mTitle->getNamespace() == NS_IMAGE) {
? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 08:20, 30 August 2007 (CDT)
: That was a remnant of a test I was conducting... but I'm not sure now what exactly I was testing, only that something was being tested. (I think I was concerned about the tabs being repeated on the talk page as well, but seeing as the second if deals with that as well, it is, as you say, redundant.) You can remove it.
: Coincidentally, I was thinking... is there a way to convert the links section on the image description page so that it can read the imagelinks table off the other databases? Ultimately, what I want is to show where the image is used across all wikis, regardless of what wiki the user is currently on. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 11:46, 30 August 2007 (CDT)
::The best way to do that is probably to write a simple PHP script that queries the imagelinks tables in all DBs and prints a (linked) list of titles that use a certain image. A link to this PHP script could then be added to the image tagging template(s). I would advise against trying to do this inside the MediaWiki code.
::Meanwhile, I've rewritten your code to be much shorter and much easier to adapt to someone else's needs:
/**
* Interwiki tabs above Image: pages
* Original code by Joe Beaudoin Jr. from www.battlestarwiki.org (joe(AT)frakmedia(DOT)net)
* Modified for more generic usage by Roan Kattouw (AKA Catrope) (roan(DOT)kattouw(AT)home(DOT)nl)
* If you want to use this, you need to set $wgEnableInterwikiImageTabs to true in LocalSettings.php
*/
global $wgEnableInterwikiImageTabs, $wgInterwikiImageTabs;
if($wgEnableInterwikiImageTabs && $this->mTitle->getNamespace() == NS_IMAGE)
{
$i = 0;
foreach($wgInterwikiImageTabs as $prefix => $caption)
{
// Go to prefix:Image:title. Image: is automatically translated if necessary.
$titleObj = Title::newFromText($prefix . ":Image:" . $this->mTitle->getText());
if($titleObj->getFullURL() != $this->mTitle->getFullURL()) // Don't link to ourselves
$content_actions['interwikitab-'.$i++] = array(
'class' => false,
'text' => $caption,
'href' => $titleObj->getFullURL()
);
}
}
::The two $wg* variables need to be set in LocalSettings.php, like so:
$wgEnableInterwikiImageTabs = true;
$wgInterwikiImageTabs = array('en' => 'English', 'de' => 'Deutsch', 'media' => 'Media repository');
::The text before the <code>=></code> sign is the interwiki prefix to link to, the text after it is the tab caption. The code also checks whether one of the tabs links to the page currently being viewed, and hides it if so. In other words, the "Deutsch" tab won't show up when viewing an image on [[de:]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 14:02, 30 August 2007 (CDT)
::I'll file an enhancement request at MediaZilla tomorrow, so the MediaWiki community can decide whether this belongs in the trunk. It's possible that it has to go in an extension instead, in which case you and I will be able to call ourselves extension maintainers ;) Whatever happens, I'll keep you posted. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 14:02, 30 August 2007 (CDT)
:::I've sent you an e-mail at your frakmedia.net address. Please read it and reply. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 16:27, 30 August 2007 (CDT)
::::You've got mail. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 17:11, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

The extension has gone live. You can find it in SVN [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Imagetabs/ here], and the associated page on MediaWiki is [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Imagetabs here]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:07, 31 August 2007 (CDT)
: Sweet! W00t! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 11:29, 31 August 2007 (CDT)
== MediaWiki 1.11 ==

I just saw Brion Vibber archiving the MediaWiki trunk into the 1_11 branch, which means a 1.11 release candidate will be released very soon. Keep an eye on [http://www.mediawiki.org MediaWiki.org]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:31, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
: About time! :-) Better late than never, I suppose. Speaking of which, the new bot API is being rolled out... are there any working bots that can be used with that API yet? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 15:34, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
::Not that I know of. The query part of the API has grown a lot since 1.10, but the state-changing part is still under heavy development, and is unlikely to be included in the final 1.11 release. When I'm done writing my part of the state-changing stuff (everything except edit, upload and register, which is done by 5 Vodafone employees), I'll start writing a graphical interface for the API, which can also be run as a bot. But those are long-term plans right now. Meanwhile, Brion has his tarball ready, and 1.11.0rc1 will appear on MediaWiki.org any minute now. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:50, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading_to_1.11 It's there]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 16:31, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Wow, 1.11.0 stable [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2007-September/000067.html has arrived] already. For upgrade instructions see [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading_to_1.11 here]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 14:30, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
== your template help offer ==

i'm just trying to add a field to enter my school. i've got a couple people helping me, so don't worry about it. thanks so much, and excellent job on this wiki! [[User:Caw|Caw]] 17:49, 15 September 2007 (CDT)
== Cylon "Epiphanies" info ==

* Mr. Beaudoin do you have the Season 2.5 DVD? I ask because I understand that deleted scenes in the "Epiphanies" episode give some insight into Cylon physiology and I'm really curious. I ask that if you have the information could you please add it to the "Humanoid Cylon" article (as well as my talk page). If you don't have it, thanks anyway. -- [[User:Troyian|Troyian]] 04:14, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
* I know this is quick. But never mind. I just checked and apparently there are no deleted scenes from "Epiphanies" on the Season 2.5 DVD set. Shame! I'm going to correct the "Life sciences in the Re-imagined Series" article which suggest that the DVD would provide the deleted scenes. -- [[User:Troyian|Troyian]] 04:18, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
** No worries. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 21:26, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
== Amazon UK store ==

I get
The page you requested is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience.
When trying to visit the Amazon UK store through the link provided on [[Battlestar Wiki:News/Merchandise]]. Any idea why? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:00, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
: Good question. I honestly don't know... Is it just ''that'' link, or is it all links to this URL: http://astore.amazon.co.uk/battlestarwik-21/detail/B000UZ4C4A/
: Anyone else having the same problem? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 12:17, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
::Works fine here. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:23, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
::Your (Joe's) link works, but the link on the News page is different: http://astore.amazon.co.uk/battlestarwik-21/detail/B000FK88JK --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 14:32, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Ah, you confused me a bit there. (The Mac OS X link is in the Colonial News thing, not the merch news, hence the confusion.) Anyway, yeah, the link doesn't work for some reason. Odd. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 15:26, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
::::Oh, sorry, my mistake. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 15:41, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

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== Scifipedia ==

Hey, Joe, if you look over at the [[BW:WQ|Quorum]], you'll see the discussion on how Sci-Fi's very own Wiki has been stealing some of their info from us here at Battlestar Wiki. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:22, 24 October 2006 (CDT)

== On GTalk ==

I'm here... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:30, 31 October 2006 (CST)
: Cool. I'll be on, well, when I'll be on. Which might be shortly. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:46, 31 October 2006 (CST)

== Regarding the questions section ==

"Questions - yet again, this section is for questions -- not possible answers to questions!"

It just doesn't make any sense. A questions section without answers has no real purpose. I've seen speculative material posted over and over again at that section. Some questions are pertinent, but there are others which can be easily answered and shouldn't be there.

:The problem was that people went too far with it, especially at the beginning of Season 3. There were lots of trivial questions and overly lenghty replies. Also back and forthing where other people replied with counter arguments and questions, leading to lots of fanwanking and baseless speculation and opinionating. Very annoying to read.
:To me, the current solution feels restrictive too, but otherwise it's hard to draw a line on what to allow and what not. However, I agree that some questions have answers that could easily be explained within the context of the episode and without speculating much (like deducing Helo's or Kat's rank from their pins). Still, it's better than what went on before. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:16, 9 November 2006 (CST)

:As Serenity points out above, people went too far with the questions section. We're an encyclopedic reference, not a message board. Firstly, much of our episode guide format is derived from the Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5 (an excellent resource that pre-dates even Wikipedia), and we use its methods as a guide to our own episode guide. Secondly, any answers to questions given in the episode can be placed in either the analysis or notes sections, which is the more pertinent place for answers. Also, in general though, may I suggest that you comments of this nature to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Wikipedian Quorum|Wikipedian Quorum]], since this is more a general question and not specifically a question I should (alone) answer. Thank you. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:17, 9 November 2006 (CST)

:I see. Makes prefect sense now. Thanks ! --[[User:MAIA]]

== Advertisements ==

Joe, I'm happy to see that the site is back up. I see that you've implemented some animated GIF advertisements. Shane and I had previously discussed some other alternatives. Is there a currently open discussion on site support? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 16:06, 11 November 2006 (CST)
: Peter: [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Site support/Proposals]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:12, 12 November 2006 (CST)

== Squid Server ==

To do it, I need to shut down the site for two days as I be testing out configs. Hopefully one shot and it will work, but you never know. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:42, 13 November 2006 (CST)
: Well, since we're going to need it... when did you want to start? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:52, 13 November 2006 (CST)
:: Tomorrow. I'm going to do it during the day so people can test it. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:13, 15 November 2006 (CST)
:::Sounds like a plan. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:51, 15 November 2006 (CST)
::::I have the squid server in-place and ready to go online at a moment notice. holding back a bit so we can see if the timeout of MySQL does the trick. Also prevented stats from running on Friday's. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:25, 17 November 2006 (CST)
:::::Great! Always nice to have a backup plan! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:15, 17 November 2006 (CST)

== In Lieu Of ==

"In lieu of" means "instead of". I think the expression you're looking for is "in light of". --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:48, 21 November 2006 (CST)
: Yes, that's the expression I was looking for. I wondered where it had got to. ;-) Thanks for the catch! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:51, 21 November 2006 (CST)

== Hi again from Wikia ==

Hi Joe,

I saw the discussion about hosting, it sounds like you decided to try something else for now. Best of luck with the adbrite tools. If it is of any value, we'd be happy to discuss hosting you with the following if you ever change your mind 
* Ads only on content pages for registered users (not on talk, history, edit, etc) if that makes the site cleaner and faster loading.
* Offering attribution, Youtube, easier photo uploading (try our image button), polling, mapping and a bunch of other extensions that have improved functionality
* Links from the wikia home page to help you grow

That said, I respect the desire to build what you have, so best of luck with a great site - I'm a fan of the show and of your work.

[http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil] @ Wikia

: Hi Gil! Thanks for your kind words! My team and I will look into the features you've mentioned above. You also mentioned something about a link from the Wikia home page. We can still do this, if you'd be willing. Basically, we would add you to our "Friends" box on our main page and you can link to us from the Wikia main page. Would this be feasible? Obviously, if something changes, I'll let you know. Thank you, again. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:24, 30 November 2006 (CST)

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== Scifipedia ==

Hey, Joe, if you look over at the [[BW:WQ|Quorum]], you'll see the discussion on how Sci-Fi's very own Wiki has been stealing some of their info from us here at Battlestar Wiki. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:22, 24 October 2006 (CDT)

== Hi again from Wikia ==

Hi Joe,

I saw the discussion about hosting, it sounds like you decided to try something else for now. Best of luck with the adbrite tools. If it is of any value, we'd be happy to discuss hosting you with the following if you ever change your mind 
* Ads only on content pages for registered users (not on talk, history, edit, etc) if that makes the site cleaner and faster loading.
* Offering attribution, Youtube, easier photo uploading (try our image button), polling, mapping and a bunch of other extensions that have improved functionality
* Links from the wikia home page to help you grow

That said, I respect the desire to build what you have, so best of luck with a great site - I'm a fan of the show and of your work.

[http://world.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil] @ Wikia

: Hi Gil! Thanks for your kind words! My team and I will look into the features you've mentioned above. You also mentioned something about a link from the Wikia home page. We can still do this, if you'd be willing. Basically, we would add you to our "Friends" box on our main page and you can link to us from the Wikia main page. Would this be feasible? Obviously, if something changes, I'll let you know. Thank you, again. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:24, 30 November 2006 (CST)
::Those are some really cool features, perhaps we could look into implementing a few of them here. I still have lots of concerns about moving to Wikia however, there would be a big increase in adverts on the whole wiki and of course if the site got popular enough to make a profit, you wouldn't see a penny of that Joe. I worry about the overall loss of control. The only real benefit is an already existing massive database of users already signed up and the advertising on a popular site. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:40, 30 November 2006 (CST)

== Welcome ==

Thanks for the welcome --[[User:Trödel|Trödel]] 10:45, 6 December 2006 (CST)

== Requested Pages ==

Joe, I don't think you should create requested pages if you don't have anything to fill them with. The red links encourage people to start articles - they don't see that nothing's there, they have no reason to contribute anything. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 01:43, 14 December 2006 (CST)
:The {{tl|requested}} tag however adds things to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]], which people can then see to add pages for. By adding the requested tag things are actually listed rather than only appearing on the "broken links" page --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 03:50, 14 December 2006 (CST)
::[[Special:Wantedpages]] serves the same function, and is the better choice, IMO. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 14:00, 14 December 2006 (CST)
: Actually, the reason for ''requesting'' (as opposed to merely linking and thus having to deal with the "red link" effect) is for the benefit of [[Battlestar Wiki:Tasks]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:30, 14 December 2006 (CST)
::And why is this worth losing the red links? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 06:00, 15 December 2006 (CST)
:::I think that having a list of pages wanted on the community portal might entice people to actually create those pages rather than wading though the red links. The majority of the red links are French anyway or direct links to images. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 06:47, 15 December 2006 (CST)
:::As Mercifull rightfully points out, a majority of the red links are mainly links in articles being translated, as well as defunct image and talk pages that do not exist yet. Also, [[Special:Wantedpages]] isn't particularly user friendly for those uninitiated in the ways of the wiki, and I say that viewing the wantedpages listing using a "customer" or non-technical user POV. The wantedpages feature on Mediawiki is very much structured to be used by the veterans or wiki-inclined. The ultimate goal is to make things as user friendly as possible. Any articles that '''really''' need to be created are deeply buried in the 700+ red links on that page. On a related note, I've noted that [[MemoryAlpha:Special:Recentchanges|Memory Alpha's RC page]] has a brief task list at the top. I feel that we would only benefit from having something similar as well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:54, 15 December 2006 (CST)

In response to the above discussion, I've started the [[Battlestar Wiki:Think Tank/Red Link Policy|Red Link policy discussion at the Think Tank]]. Please post any comments to the [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Think Tank/Red Link Policy|appropriate talk page]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:31, 15 December 2006 (CST)

== Thanks for the Welcome ==

Thanks for the welcome Joe. Thanks for an amazing wiki and Battlestar source! It was this awesome wiki that actually inspired me to start a new wiki. [[User:TARDIS|TARDIS]] 15:09, 18 December 2006 (CST)
: Hi TARDIS! Have a link to the wiki? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:55, 18 December 2006 (CST)

:: Its the Red Dwarf wiki http://reddwarf.wikia.com. We're fast approaching 100 articles! [[User:TARDIS|TARDIS]] 19:43, 19 December 2006 (CST)

== Show/Hide ==

Is there a problem with the show.hide function? I trie dot add it to the [[Video game]] page and it works in the preview but not in the actual article? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 04:19, 19 December 2006 (CST)
:I think javascript is disabled by default for most articles. That may be the issue. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:37, 19 December 2006 (CST)
:Odd, it seems to work fine for me. I'll look into it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:26, 19 December 2006 (CST)
:Does your browser have javaScript enabled? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:43, 19 December 2006 (CST)

== New Admins Needed? ==

What's you're feeling on the admin count? I've got my eye on a [[User:Serenity|potential candidate]], but wondered if there was currently a need to recruit some. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:28, 22 December 2006 (CST)
:O_o --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:44, 22 December 2006 (CST)
:We have, what--three admins on leave? Might make sense to add one more. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:38, 22 December 2006 (CST)
::Man... it seems like forever since the last RFA. I barely remember how those go. If the consensus is to add one I'd most likely work up the RFA page after Christmas, possibly even after the new year (just so it doesn't seem like we're trying to "sneak" it through). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:42, 22 December 2006 (CST)
:I have no issue with this. Actually, with Day on (seemingly) indefinite leave, we may need to find someone to fill his spot. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:57, 22 December 2006 (CST)
::Yeah, I've been wonering what happened to Day. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 19:06, 23 December 2006 (CST)
::I'll be back once my internet installed Jan 4th at my new place, but time is going to be limited due to job. So I am going to stay LOA, but still be around until everything is settled. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 22:43, 23 December 2006 (CST)
:::I guess the consensus is it's time for a new [[Mop Boy]]? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 00:21, 24 December 2006 (CST)

== Gtalk for a sec ==

About the blog. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:39, 5 January 2007 (CST)

== Account ==

Emailed the invite to your address in your profile Joe. --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 14:22, 7 January 2007 (CST)

== Speed ==

Actually I wrote that when Season 3 started and I guess there were too many people coming all at once. It's a little slow on the night of premires, but I haven't had any problems for a few months. Thanks for asking, I just took that bit out of my profile. I was thinking about taking it out yesterday actually [[User:Genome4824|GMo >:M:<]] 16:13, 9 January 2007 (CST)
: Which may be expected. Hopefully, that won't be so much the case when the show resumes its first run airings. Anyway, thank you for the feedback! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:53, 9 January 2007 (CST)
: ;=) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:31, 13 January 2007 (CST)

== AdBrite ==

I'm waiting for the zones. I moved the file to skins/custom/AdBrite.php and updated "code" for the diffferent sizes. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:31, 13 January 2007 (CST)
: should have 'em in the next 20 minutes. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:34, 13 January 2007 (CST)
::Wrong typing... (never good when watching football..) I need the updated code for the sizes of ads. I have a "switch" setup. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:37, 13 January 2007 (CST)

== Spenc's Sysop Tag ==

You removed it. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:12, 13 January 2007 (CST)

== Playboy Cover ==

I know we discussed this when creating the polices of the media site, but what about the new cover of Playboy? {{unsigned|Shane}}
: Well, haven't actually seen the cover yet... Got a link? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:: Yeah... get me on GMAIL [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:13, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::: BSG + Playboy = OMFG YES! (Also I'd like to see this link too >.>) --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 00:37, 16 January 2007 (CST)
::::I saw the pics on the interweb the other day. Me and Shane decided that Grace Park needs to do it next ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 03:19, 16 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Grace already did Maxim. Some very nice pictures --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:07, 16 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Since I am (Sadly) in the dark, who did it this time? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 05:53, 16 January 2007 (CST)
::::::Tricia Helfer (Six). --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 06:01, 16 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::Not that she's not in the buff elsewhere, but this is, well ''canonical''. ;) Oh, since we have used the covers of the official BSG magazine, it's likely we can use this cover for the same fair use principles. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:18, 16 January 2007 (CST)
::::::::Lol Spence --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 09:52, 16 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::::Just did a bit of researching and located the pics... HOLY FRAK. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 13:36, 16 January 2007 (CST)
::::::::::Yep, great, huh? ;) --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:44, 16 January 2007 (CST)
::::::::::I saved them, in case further research is needed --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:46, 16 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::::::You too, eh? Also I nominate Katee Sackoff to do the next BSG Playboy shoot. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 13:59, 16 January 2007 (CST)
::::::::::::I'm voting for Grace Park or Nicki Clyne. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:51, 16 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::::::::Nicki Clyne is a great choice, and one I wouldn't immediately have thought of. I'd also like to put Lucy Lawless' name (and body) in the running. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:22, 20 January 2007 (CST)
::Already uploaded the Playboy cover. It's on hte [[Tricia Helfer]] page now. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:43, 16 January 2007 (CST)

== Presence Required on Gtalk ==

n/t [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:00, 20 January 2007 (CST)
:We need the more RAM. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 03:25, 22 January 2007 (CST)
:Sent in specs.Had to create a new ticket. Want to change the ticket permissions? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:21, 13 February 2007 (CST)

== 2k Logo ==

I updated the logo just cause I will be @ work from 6:30pm to 7am tonight. Enjoy BSG tonight. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:43, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:Also... page me if there are any problems tonight. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:26, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:But we don't have 2000 articles yet ;) *quickly deleted some to lower the count* --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:36, 28 January 2007 (CST)
::Woohoo! :> --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:38, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:::Woo, yay and whatnot :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 02:57, 29 January 2007 (CST)

== Battlestarwiki españa ==

Hi, first you have to excuse my poor english but iam a spanish native speaker. I tried to contact with shane in BSW España, but i recieved no answer. I have some questions about that wiki. --[[User:Baltar Gaiolas|Baltar Gaiolas]] 21:03, 15 February 2007 (CST)
: Hi, no problem. Actually, Shane just replied to [[es:Usuario Discusión:Shane|you here]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:05, 15 February 2007 (CST)

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== 2k Logo ==

I updated the logo just cause I will be @ work from 6:30pm to 7am tonight. Enjoy BSG tonight. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:43, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:Also... page me if there are any problems tonight. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:26, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:But we don't have 2000 articles yet ;) *quickly deleted some to lower the count* --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:36, 28 January 2007 (CST)
::Woohoo! :> --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:38, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:::Woo, yay and whatnot :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 02:57, 29 January 2007 (CST)

== Battlestarwiki españa ==

Hi, first you have to excuse my poor english but iam a spanish native speaker. I tried to contact with shane in BSW España, but i recieved no answer. I have some questions about that wiki. --[[User:Baltar Gaiolas|Baltar Gaiolas]] 21:03, 15 February 2007 (CST)
: Hi, no problem. Actually, Shane just replied to [[es:Usuario Discusión:Shane|you here]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:05, 15 February 2007 (CST)

== .com ==

Goes no where. ;-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 10:53, 21 February 2007 (CST)
: Yeah, I know that... It was supposed to go to a mirror site that never happened. I'll have to go and change it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:41, 21 February 2007 (CST)
::That's what you told me two weeks ago :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 14:51, 21 February 2007 (CST)
:::.net loads into a frame instead of a proper redirect too. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 14:53, 21 February 2007 (CST)
::::Yeah, yeah. :-) However, I don't see how .net loads into a frame... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:59, 21 February 2007 (CST)
::::Actually, it ''does'' load into a frame; there was an option that was recently added to the domain registrar's control panel. It just wasn't obvious to me. Anyway, .com now redirects to .org, and I've removed the frame option from the .net forward (same with the .com). Should work in less than an hour. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:09, 21 February 2007 (CST)
:::::Woo Yay and whatnot ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 15:20, 21 February 2007 (CST)

== Signature Problem ==

Hey Joe, I was having a little truble with my signature. When I use the signature timestamp my sn is comingout ZareCk Rocks, even though my sn is Zarek Rocks. Just a minor problem but I wanted to see if you had any advice. Thanks!--Zareck Rocks 23:40, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
: Go to [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]]. Click on "User Profile" and then find the field titled "nickname". There you should probably see the issue. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 05:10, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

== Gmail ==

Check your gmail for a couple of responses regarding the B5 thing. They're interested in having a conversation. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:49, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
: I saw that. I'll reply after I get some grub. Looks promising, though. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:11, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

== Verb Tense? ==

I just saw that an admin changed the verb tense on the edits I made to the [[Military Ranks (RDM)]] page to the passive, past tense, voice although the wiki policy states that we are to write in the active, present tense, voice.

When exactly is it appropriate to use the differing verb tense?
--[[User:Tungsten|Tungsten]] 12:55, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

: The content is more "real world" and so falls under a different set of guidelines, see: [[Battlestar Wiki:Real Point of View]]. Of course, to ask exactly why the edit occurred, [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] would be willing and able to answer any of your questions regarding his edit. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:01, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

:I didn't change the tense. It's still present. To be honest, I can't really remember why I changed the voice. It wasn't really wrong per se. In fact, I think I'll change it back. It looks better the way it was :s --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:17, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

:O sorry about that. I actually thought I asked [[User:Serenity|Serenity]]. Must have had to many tabs open and hit the wrong one :). Thanks for the feedback. I'm pretty new to this whole wiki contributions thing and just wanted to make sure I got the rules down so I don't make a mess of things :). Thank you both. --[[User:Tungsten|Tungsten]] 02:12, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
::Well as said, you didn't do anything wrong. I think I thought it looked better the other way. Just a style thing. But I reverted my edit after thinking about it some more. While we appreciate that you check the rules beforehand, don't worry about messing up. If you break some style convention 1 or 2 times, an admin will usually tell you on your user page, and correct it. But it's no big thing. Just saves us work mopping after other people if they know the stuff. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 04:41, 24 April 2007 (CDT)

== Acceptable Ad? ==

[http://www.lavaplace.com/?page=register&ref=1_44_2812275&kwrd=Russian%20Brides This one] appeared under "Russian Brides" that took me by surprise. Not obscene, just damn peculiar for us. -- [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:30, 27 April 2007 (CDT) ([[User_Talk:Spencerian|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Spencerian|Contrib Skillz]] - [[Special:Editcount/Spencerian|Edit Skillz]])
: Damned peculiar... I'll remove it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:32, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

== Rename? ==

Yo <code>:-)</code>! I was wondering, is it possible to get renamed to [[User:Matthew]] ([http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Matthew which isn't registered]). My Wikipedia username is Matthew and I'd like to "unify" as best as I can. If it's not possible to get renamed then don't worry about it <code>;-)</code>. Have a good evening, [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 15:50, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
:All set. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:04, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
:: Ah, thanks very much :-D [[User:Matthew|Matthew]] 18:15, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

== wanted to show you our cool new toys for wikia ==

http://tv.wikia.com/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_%282004_TV_series%29? {{unsigned|Gil}}
: Thanks for the link! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:29, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

== Foreshadowings ==

:* A bit of potential, if not ironic, foreshadowing is seen regarding Tyrol being a Cylon in [[Season 2 (2005-06)|Season 2]]'s "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]". In that episode, upon returning to ''Galactica'' from [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], Galen Tyrol is suspected to be a Cylon agent by none other than Colonel Tigh.

If you like those things, take a look [[Talk:Final Five#Ironies and references|here]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 02:01, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

: Yeah, these things should really be noted in the notes/analysis sections of the episode guides. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:36, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

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== As of right now... ==

I got everything work. Images, Descriptions, etc. I'm on GTalk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:55, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

== Problems.. ==

On the Babylon 5 Wiki? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:14, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
: Yes. It's just really stagnant and The Great Machine is still using the 1.3.x series Mediawiki software. I recommended that they upgrade, but they didn't. Also, as was mentioned, it's not really well organized and B5 fans would be better off, in my opinon, with a wikified version of the Lurker's Guide. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:24, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
:: Yikes! 1.3.x. I go nutz. What lience do they use ebcause if it's it's open source... and you start your own wiki, which I might see in a few mintues "http://www.battlestarwiki.org/babylon5wiki/", use their content information. I'll help ya design it, but I have no skilz what so ever on Babylon 5. Never touched or watched the stuff. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:32, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
::: Well, you won't see it in a few minutes... I'm focusing my attention on the BSG stuff right now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:47, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Course. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:48, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

== Ping! ==

Pong! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 22:41, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

== ?? ==

<code>
Fatal error: Call to undefined method Title::isImagePage() in /home/admin/domains/battlestarwiki.org/w/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 728
</code>

which I try to browse a category of images. Update a skin? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:44, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

: Actually, I was updating it so as to add tabs to the image description pages on media. [[md:Image:Anders.jpg|For example...]] The purpose is to link back to the image pages on the indivual language wikis, so the people can easily find out from ''their own'' description page as to whether or not the image is being used on their wiki. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:51, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

::Good idea. :-) Can you transfer the extensions installed in a zip to my email. the svn. site of mediawiki is down and I can not download them. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:10, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

::: Not really an extension. Just merely some additions to SkinTemplate.php, which I'll send your way as soon as I can. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:18, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
::::no no... I'll take that as well, but I ment the files in the /extensions/ directory as well. cite.php and the like. The same ones used here so I can keep the HB the same way. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:23, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

:::::Ah, ok. Thought you were speaking of the additions I had made to create the language tabs. Will do. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:26, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

== Curriosity Question ==

Do you know how to use a SVN/CVS? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:35, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
: Been around a few. Can't say I use them all that much though. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:38, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

== Donate ==

Sent you a small donation; will send you annother when i have more cash :-) [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 02:34, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
: Thank you for your donation, Matthew. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:46, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

== Back to 100%? ==

I noticed that you have been around more, are you back to 100% and has work calm down. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:20, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
: Hi Frankie. Thanks for asking! I'm back to 100% again. Work's calm down for now, but the holidays are coming up, so I know that within a few weeks I'll start getting busier. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:26, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

== Wikibits.js and CSS ==

I just checked my javascirpt console. I am working on the problem. The CSS seems also to have some unneeded values. I will work on this for XHTML reasons, but not a major concern. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:33, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
:In wiki bits find <code>addLoadEvent(createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code> and change it to <code>addOnloadHook(createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code>. That should fix the problem. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:50, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
::Grrr... my user test page still not working. Try chaging... <code>addOnloadHook(createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code> to <code>hookEvent("load", createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code>. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 05:53, 28 August 2006 (CDT)

== Vero ==

Where is "Vero" located from the strom impact area? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:47, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
ok.. nvm.

http://www.baseballfantasycamps.com/images/florida.vero.beach.jpg

That near the shuttle area. The shuttle is going back to the pad. It might be a taf stronger where you are. Do you watch the shuttle on liftoff time... if you can? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:48, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

: I try. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:51, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
:: Sweet. Space at it sickest! :) I would love to take the Commanders seat of the shuttle. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:01, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

== Vero, we have a problem! ==

I'm online so I can be contacted on GTalk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:13, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
:Part II. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:23, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

== Frappr! ==

Can you delete my entry on the frappr group. I want to update it, but I don;t have the email address anymore asscoiated with the account. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:19, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

== User Login on german page does not work ==

Hello,

I can login here on the english page, but not on the german. Allthough my userpage "Tirkon" is there, the system says on "login" or "send me an e-mail", that there is no user "Tirkon". Could you please check this? Thank you. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 20:38, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:Tirkon, you have to re-register since the database are now seperated. Sign up under the same name and I will transfer all your old edits to your new "userid" number so you still have them. I am on the German Wiki also, [[:de:User:Shane|here]]. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:41, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:: Follow Shane's advice. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:42, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::: Thank you. I have done the sign up. - Further question: Is it possible, that you send me this picture "Image:BSG_WIKI_SM.png" by mail. I want to use it in my german Wikipedia Account. I hope, I have your allowance. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:03, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::I think we decided on the Big W to not use that image because it's copyrighted style of BSG in the first place. [[Wikipedia:Template:User Battlestar Wiki|Template:User Battlestar Wiki]] is what we use for Userboxs. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:08, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::Thank you once more. I do not know, how to change it that way, that it links to the german Battlestar Wiki. Could you please change it for me? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:25, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::The "Interwiki" admins have yet to change the system so it can work for cross lanagues. I will try to get back in touch with them to see what is going on. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:30, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::Possibly this will not work. I had trouble with the german administrators concerning this template. They do only want it on the my User-Page. There is a rule: It is not allowed, to have it as a public template on german wikipedia. Thus possibly the interwiki templates will not work there-- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:45, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::::the Interwiki maps are global though out the wiki- global sites. The german admins have no clue. I talk to the sysops of the foundation and they said interwiki link will be updated in the next few day. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:50, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::::O.K. Thanks for the informations. The template link did still not work. But in the meanwhile I have changed the link of the template as an internet link. And now it works. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 22:16, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::::::I'll check it in a few days to see if they fixed the interwiki link database and update it back to the correct one. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 22:19, 1 September 2006 (CDT)

== Around? ==

Posted a possaible solution to the problem on your media talk page. It might be the fact that the server is not configured for SVG. Because when I view an SVG file on Wikipedia, it creates the image. http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg (shows the code) v. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg (shows the flag) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:14, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
:GOT IT! http://hb.battlestarwiki.org/w/images/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg Yeah. Follow the stuff on the webpage I did on your media talk page. You will have to restart the server for it to work on all the servers. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:30, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

== Sup? ==

You around? :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:29, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
: Sorta. Sorta not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:32, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

== DragonCon 2006 Report ==

...is up on my talk page. Might be something worth noting to the contributors at large. Sorry for the bad photos...I wish I had my better camera. Hopefully the participants there can send us better versions sometime. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:42, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
:We could could go low-key with a note in "news" or "community portal" (on the Community bulletin board), or we could hit a bigger audience with the sitenotice. I'm not sure how much traffic the news and community sections really get. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:00, 6 September 2006 (CDT)

== Online ==

You sacked out or you around? I'm on GTalk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:46, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
:Pong :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:16, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
:SVG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:10, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
:: What about it? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:19, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Did you get around compliing a version of rsvg greater than 2.2.3? 2.4.0+ is needed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:24, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
::::No. It's not a high priority for me just right now, not if we're going to be moving to new servers anyway... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:25, 11 September 2006 (CDT)

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== Donate ==

Sent you a small donation; will send you annother when i have more cash :-) [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 02:34, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
: Thank you for your donation, Matthew. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:46, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

== DragonCon 2006 Report ==

...is up on my talk page. Might be something worth noting to the contributors at large. Sorry for the bad photos...I wish I had my better camera. Hopefully the participants there can send us better versions sometime. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:42, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
:We could could go low-key with a note in "news" or "community portal" (on the Community bulletin board), or we could hit a bigger audience with the sitenotice. I'm not sure how much traffic the news and community sections really get. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:00, 6 September 2006 (CDT)

== Online ==

You sacked out or you around? I'm on GTalk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:46, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
:Pong :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:16, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
:SVG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:10, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
:: What about it? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:19, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Did you get around compliing a version of rsvg greater than 2.2.3? 2.4.0+ is needed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:24, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
::::No. It's not a high priority for me just right now, not if we're going to be moving to new servers anyway... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:25, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::That' true. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:35, 11 September 2006 (CDT)

== Raider Concept source ==

Joe,

There are many sources out there where you can get these images but the place I actually snagged them from was Galactica Station, and specifically from here:[http://www.galacticastation.com/Gallery/Artwork/gallery.htm].

I hope this is good enough.

--[[User:Gallion|Gallion]] 12:43, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

: Thanks Gallion! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:56, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
:Nice. ;-P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:06, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

== Goals ==

I added this section to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Community Portal#Sitegoals|BW:CP]]. Should help us with projects/items that need to get done before Season 3 and or any other point. :0 --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:33, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
: Saw that. Great idea. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:37, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

== Character Template ==

Why not the {{tl|Character Data}} Template and just the image? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:47, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
: Didn't feel like adding it in right now. I'm just going picture hunting right now. You can add them in if you like. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:50, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
::kk. I think we need a {{tlp|template needed|''template name''}} template to keep track. :-P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:52, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
:::It's probably better if we keep such a thing on the talk page of the article in question, in order to keep the article itself "clean". -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:00, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Agreed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:16, 15 September 2006 (CDT)

== Name change ==

Well, i was suggested on my talk page to change my name to frakboomer so i'll guess that would be ok. [[User:FUCKBOOMER|FUCKBOOMER]] 03:51, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
: Very well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:17, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

::thank you. [[User:FRAKBOOMER|FRAKBOOMER]] 11:37, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

:::Not a problem. Thank you for your patience in this matter. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:11, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

== Redirect Image and Mediawiki JS ==

I have no idea on what you did last time to fix the "redirect" image, but you got it. :-) Second thing is the MediaWiki Image JS. Needs to be re-done. Which I knew the file u worked off. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 10:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
: The fix for the "redirect" image is simply removing the transparency of the png, using a white background. That's what's causing it to look the way it does using the BSGbook scheme. As for the file I edited for the tabs, it's "includes/SkinTemplate.php". Before I was called to my father's office, I was trying to get the tabs to show up on all the image pages across all the wikis. I've commented out the code, since it didn't work as well as I'd like, but the edited file is on server should you choose to have at it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:54, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
: Ok, the tabs are working on the media wiki. (I still want to get the tabs cross-wiki as well for the Image namespace, so it makes navigation easier.) I've also fixed the png file. The reason why it screws up on BSG Wiki is because the PNG is transparent and the text (and arrow as well) are black, so that's why it looks like crap in transparency mode. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:44, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
::Roger. I'll work on it in the HB. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 02:06, 16 October 2006 (CDT)

== Strange Code on BS Media Wiki ==

I'm getting strange error messages when using the Media wiki site. It's still up, but at the upper left corner I have errors that attempt to write themselves. The error includes several lines. Here's one.

:<nowiki>Warning: urlencode() expects parameter 1 to be string, object given in /home/admin/domains/battlestarwiki.org/w/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 826</nowiki>

--[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:24, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

: Yeah, I was trying out something... I've fixed it now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:51, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

== On for talk? / taskbot ==

n/t --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:58, 15 October 2006 (CDT)
:Bot's all set. Just need to setup the cron job on the server - Every 24 hours or 12 or 6?. It's located in '''/ROOT/bots/taskbot/taskbot.pl'''. So the command is ''perl /ROOT/bots/taskbot/taskbot.pl''. That's it. I made it shorter. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 01:35, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
:: 12 hours should be fine for now. We can always adjust it later. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 07:42, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
:: Done. It now runs at 12 hour intervals. (Although, when I went to try to run the command, it spat back that the server wasn't recognizing the bot.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:49, 16 October 2006 (CDT)

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== On for talk? / taskbot ==

n/t --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:58, 15 October 2006 (CDT)
:Bot's all set. Just need to setup the cron job on the server - Every 24 hours or 12 or 6?. It's located in '''/ROOT/bots/taskbot/taskbot.pl'''. So the command is ''perl /ROOT/bots/taskbot/taskbot.pl''. That's it. I made it shorter. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 01:35, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
:: 12 hours should be fine for now. We can always adjust it later. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 07:42, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
:: Done. It now runs at 12 hour intervals. (Although, when I went to try to run the command, it spat back that the server wasn't recognizing the bot.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:49, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
::: Werid. I just did a manual run and it worked. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:00, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
:::: I'm getting the same error sent to me via e-mail as well from CRON. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:18, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
::::: Send me the error via Gtalk. I am going to try to run it via a different directory. See if it has to do with the "location" of the cookies file. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:54, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
::::: Found problem. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:57, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
::::: Go ahead and try to run it yourself. It should work. I have to force tell the perl script where to find the cookies file. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:02, 16 October 2006 (CDT)
::::: OK, apparently another problem surfaced. I'll send the error via gMail. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 07:50, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::: The die() is how the script ends it self without any infiente loops. I'll see if I can change it to something that doesn't require die(); --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:15, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::: Changed it to "Exit". Shouldn't happen anymore. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:27, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::: Yes, that seems to work. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:55, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::: Yay! btw... nice User page. :-D --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:11, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::::: Thanks! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 23:21, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

== Blog Request ==

Requesting Blog posting permissions.
* Software Updates
* Downtime, etc.
--[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:18, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
: Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 23:20, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

Can I play? I'd like to manage the general purposes of the blog as applicable, particularly noting pages marked for deletion, merges, and such, as well as spotlighting wiki features and abilities for newbies, informal policy explanations, interesting or new articles, downtime or performance, yada, yada, yada. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:17, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
:Just gotta sign up. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 10:20, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
::Well, I guess I do. It's done. Same ol' name. Hey, your Mop Boy tenure was short. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:44, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
:::Yep. :-) Should be all set in the blog. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 10:45, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
::::Gracias. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:59, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

== Audio Software? ==

What ya using? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:04, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
: To capture, I use [http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/ WireTap Pro]. I tried using Audacity, but ran into problems in using it, for some reason... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:08, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
::Yeah. Figured. Well.. at this point I need a mac. lol. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:21, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

== /tools directory ==

Is this subject to deletion? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:13, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
: Yep. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:14, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
::It is gone. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:55, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

== new contributor - audio episode guides? ==

Hello! Sorry to be a newbie, but, I've been a fan of the BSGWiki for quite some time, and I finally got a working headset and decided to give something back to the site if I could - I recorded the episode guide for '33' according to the script given on the Audio project page, and I was wondering where I should upload it for verification and such. If I did everything right, I should be able to record most of the audio for the episode guides within the week if you guys want - this seems like an interesting idea, I like doing voiceovers and audio work, and the Lords know I can't edit a wiki to save my life XD

Just looking to be pointed in the right direction, and asking the admin for help might get me there ^^ Thank you, [[User:Kobayashihikaru|Kobayashihikaru]] 14:41, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

: Hello! Nothing wrong with being a newbie! Anyway, all files are to be uploaded to the [[md:Special:Upload|Media Wiki]]. Just a question, though, how big is the MP3 file, because I may have to increase the upload limit on the server. Look forward to hearing back from you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:57, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

:: Whoa, thank you for the quick response ^^ I just finished recording the audio for the third episode guide, for Bastille Day, and so far the largest of the three is 2.3 MB in size - I tried to keep the file size down as much as I could out of compassion for those of us with dialup and for the BSGWiki server. [[User:Kobayashihikaru|Kobayashihikaru]] 15:33, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

::: Cool! Look forward to reviewing your reads! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:35, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

:::: Okay, I uploaded the files to the MediaWiki, but I'm not sure where I have to go to flag them for review. The verifications page is coming up as an 'edit' link, and I somehow don't feel like I have the authority to make the page for the stuff I did to be reviewed at. >.> I'm going to provide links to the audio files here, so you don't have to go hunting for them - I -think- these links should work...

::::{{audio|33_episodeguide.mp3|listen}}, {{audio|water_episodeguide.mp3|listen}}, {{audio|bastilleday_episodeguide.mp3|listen}}

::::Again, sorry for being clueless, just trying to help the wiki where I can. ^^ [[User:Kobayashihikaru|Kobayashihikaru]] 15:51, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::No need to be sorry. :-) Actually, the verifications page hasn't been set up yet, so that's why your getting the edit page. For now, just post them on [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Audio Development|talk page for the audio development project]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:56, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::: By your command~ They're on the talk page for Audio Development. I'll be away for a few hours for a martial arts class, I might record more episode guides afterwards. Thank you for being so welcoming to a newb like me ^_^ [[User:Kobayashihikaru|Kobayashihikaru]] 15:59, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

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== Friend status? ==

: ''Discussion moved to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Wikipedian Quorum]].'' -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 22:44, 7 May 2006 (CDT)

== Extension which would be really useful ==

Would it be possible to add the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ShowHide_Extension Show/Hide extension] here? It will be useful to have an 'edit' control panel on the main page and also for showing and hiding possible spoilers? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 08:45, 9 May 2006 (CDT)
:One problem with this ext. Javascript. To find all "normal" users with javascript enabled would be like a good thing. It also creates my favorite issue of not fullfilling it's "job" as if something like that is placed at the bottom of the page, you would still have to scroll down to read more text. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 10:57, 9 May 2006 (CDT)
::Surely javascript is _already_ in use here to work the current show/hide used for the contents box --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 11:35, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
::: It is, AFAIK. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:46, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
::::So this extension wouldnt make any difference to anyone than it already does. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 12:54, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
::::: That seems to be about right, from what I know anyway. Maybe Shane knows something I don't... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:57, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
:::::: Safri is one broswer, and I.E. at certain secruity settings disables the show hide code. But as I said before, you would still have to scroll down if a large show/hide box was created because it's "inline". --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:25, 10 May 2006 (CDT)

== german episode list does not work any more ==

Hallo,

*1)
We have a german episode list. It is installed under all german episodes. It is at present the only instrument we have for the fast episode navigation and thus the most important.
http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Vorlage:Episodenliste
Now it does not work any more. I do not know about the technical stuff. I am working here only as a translator. Could you please look for the german episode list and make it run?

*2)
I began her as an IP. Now this is not possible any more. I am quite shure, that I never had began here as a translator, if I could not do this as an IP. At present we are only three active members in the german section. Would it not be better, to allow the IP editing, to get more people there. I have established a link to the german battlestar wiki in the german wikipedia battlestar article. I think, if an IP editing would be possible, we could get more people to work there.

Thank you for your attention.
*[[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 11:29, 13 May 2006 (CDT)

: Tirkon: I'll take a look at the episode list, it's likely a simple issue. As for the IP address... I'll consider lowering the block on anonymous editing, if it spurs up valid contributors. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:58, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
:: Odd, it seems to work now... Where exactly doesn't it work, may I ask? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:41, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
::: on http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Vorlage:Episodenliste itself and on http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Hauptseite (Link {{Episodenliste}}) ... There also is a second problem, which is not present on wikipedia: If I click to "compare two versions", it does not show me the differences, but it wants me to download an "index.php" -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 17:27, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
::::It's working for me as well (on both the main page and from the template (vorlage) page itself. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.3. The diff function (compare two versions) also seems to be up. However, Joe and I are both running English-native settings for OS and browser... perhaps there's something to do with i18n at one of those levels? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:08, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
:::::Joe and Steelviper, thank you very much for your help. :o) I tried german firefox and everyting is O.K. But it does not work (for me) on german Internet Explorer (new version), while on original Wikipedia it is O.K. I will use Firefox for the further translations. Thanx for this hint. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:51, 13 May 2006 (CDT)

== wikipedia Battlestar template for german users ==

Hallo, I have a further question. This template in the german wikipedia links to the english Battlestar Wiki. How could it be changed to link to the german Battlestar Wiki?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:User_Battlestar_Wiki

Thank you -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 17:37, 13 May 2006 (CDT)

::Thanx, it runs well now. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:50, 13 May 2006 (CDT)

:::A further question: I need the picture for this template. As far as I know, the upload of pics to german wikipedia shsll be disabled in near futur and it is strongly recommended, to uploded to commons. This also would it make easyer for other international Battlestarwiki users, to use the pic. Because you are the copyrighter, I would beg you to do so with the matching licence and then please tell me the link. Thank you -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 22:16, 13 May 2006 (CDT)

::::Funny, the link to the template was just deleted from my german wikipedia user page. After that the template was deleted from official german wikipedia. An administrator reproved me, not to use "such" templates in the official german wikipedia (without explaining, what "such" is). I should only host it on my personally side, where it was moved to now. Seems, as if german wikipedia administrators are much stronger. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 22:48, 13 May 2006 (CDT)

== Favicon ==

Joe... I'm not sure when you did it, but the new favicon appears... garbled in my Firefox. I think it's because of the image scaling. I'm guessing that it's just the logo shrunk down way. Personally, I think such a small picture should be MUCH simpler. Just thought I'd weigh in on that. I'm not demanding a change or anything, just piping up. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]]) 00:27, 14 May 2006 (CDT)

== Persimmons? ==

I would like to ask your permission to use your likeness (from the image for your user page) in a project I'm working on. It's just a little banner I'm putting together for the Galactica BS fan art forum (not going to be on the front page of anything, just in a post or two (if the original ends up being quoted). I'm actually done with yours but posting it once is as good as publishing in these days of caching, so before I even posted a preview of it to photobucket I wanted to clear it with you. I just used your pic as is, with some minor changes in scaling, rotation, and shadow. I'm not 100% done with it, but it's looking pretty good. I'd rather not spoil the "surprise" of what exactly I'm doing until closer to unveiling, but I could promise a preview before it is "published" (aka posted into my fan art thread). Just drop a note here (or on my talk, or email, or whatever) letting me know. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:49, 16 May 2006 (CDT)
: Sure. Hack away. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:24, 16 May 2006 (CDT)
::Preview has been sent to your gmail account. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:25, 18 May 2006 (CDT)

== Bot ==

I am ready to test the bot again. See if runs under the bot name. If it does, we can set it to auto run every 3 or 6hours. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:06, 7 June 2006 (CDT)

== RFC ==

Joe, I figure you've got the paged Watched or whatever, but I thought I'd draw your eye, anyway. I'd very much like to hear what you're thinking regarding [[Battlestar Wiki:Requests for comment/Shane|this RFC]]. I know that, due to the way it's been edited, the page is somewhat confusing to read, but I feel this needs the attention of the full body of administrators. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]]) 21:47, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
: I'm working on a response now. I just want to make sure that my position (and possible solution) is clear, since the page does seem to be confusing due to its choppy flow. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 22:08, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
::Joe, if possible, can you please contact me via GTalk before you post? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:14, 25 June 2006 (CDT)

:: Cool, Jow. Just making sure it was on your dradis. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]]) 22:57, 25 June 2006 (CDT)

== Email Validation (2) ==

Earlier i posted to your [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.#Email validation|talk page about the problems]] I was having with email validation. Well I kinda forgot about it for a while but the issue has cropped up again now I am an administrator of thw wiki. I posted more details about it to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard#Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admins noticeboard]]. The email address that i am trying to validate is '''mattsims'''''@evilmerc.com'' Cheers --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 15:08, 1 July 2006 (CDT)
:Maybe some experimentation could be done over at the hangarbay to try to troubleshoot this? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:19, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
::I didnt get an email from the hangarbay wiki either. Possibly a problem with the way its set up on the server? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:51, 10 July 2006 (CDT)

== MediaWiki 1.7.1 ==

It's out. One thing: PHP 5 upgrade needed. So it's up to you. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:30, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
: Thanks Shane! I'll read more on it later. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:40, 14 July 2006 (CDT)

== Wikipedia ==

Someone just slamed your Wikipedia talk page.... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:53, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

== Subpages + Bot ==

Well.. I noticed something. Subpages for the '''User''', '''Battlestar Wiki talk''', and possaible some other namespaces. Maybe just turn them all on so it works as used. See [[Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp]] and [[Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp/Temp1]] for examples. I can also work on the task bot if Perl is complied into PHP. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:15, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
:The bot might be ready to run again. I uploaded a whole bunch of fixes to the file. Post any errors to my email. Run it using <tt>perl taskbot.pl OPENTASK_UPDATE</tt> --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:21, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
:No idea where to put this, but maybe the <tt>trusted</tt> group could get Patrol status. Patrol is just something to watch mark changes that they were seen. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:00, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
::'''UPDATE''': http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0 - Bot is working. :) Now it just needs to be added to the cron to run every 4 or 6 hours.

== RFA ==

I accepted my RFA nomination; can you put up one of those "current event" banners on top of the site? Also, I've noticed that since the wiki media change, when we search for something that doesn't exist, instead of that hi-larious "Man Created the Cylons, He Did Not Create An Article With This Title" page doesn't appear anymore; can that come back? Thanks. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 18:45, 30 July 2006 (CDT)
: I don't think that's necessary... I'll work on the other problem though. Thanks. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:17, 31 July 2006 (CDT)

== Feel Better ==

Drink lots of water and have chicken soup. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:23, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
: Thanks Shane! :-) Honestly, I find gatorade works better, at least for me. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]
:: 0_o Gatorade? That's a new one. I would think Gatorade be bad because of the suger content to keep the virus alive. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:47, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
:::Electrolytes would be the big selling point on Gatorade. Pedialyte is also a common solution (though, obviously more with younger patients). The carbs would mean more blood sugar (and therefore energy). Not sure the effect on viruses. No more than taking in any other form of nutrition, I suspect. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:22, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
:::Do you have lucozade across the pond? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 13:15, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
::::We have GNC. :) Same deal though. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:19, 31 July 2006 (CDT)

A cold?! Hm. Sounds like our current [[Mop Boy]] hasn't used the disinfectant in the mop water...take care of yourself, Joe. We'll keep it all running along here; at least you're not ill during an new episode run. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:21, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
:It was sabotage i swear! I saw you by the bucket as i was coming back from doing a wee! --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 14:26, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
::This has got to be some serious cold. :-x --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:28, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
:::I've recovered from the cold, mostly. I just have the back spasms i have to deal with. Basically, I've been taking muscle relaxants and Aleve, so I can move just as fast as a hare... :-( -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:29, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Can I say... "OUCH!" --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 09:46, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

== Setting up a mirror ==

MediaBlvd would like to offer up some of our server space and bandwidth as a mirror, if that would be useful. Great job here, all involved.

[[User:NetRanger|NetRanger]] 22:38, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
: Thanks for the offer! I'll try to get in contact with you in the next few days to iron out details. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:30, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
: Side note... we should really setup this also joe.

* www.battlestar.org (Splash Page)

* en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (english)
* de.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (german)
* es.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (spanish)
* hb.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (Test Wiki)

* media-0.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Our Inital Media Resository)
** Interactive Files (Images)
* media-1.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Could Be Net Ranger's Server, but out link)
** Interactive Files (Video, Sound, and Images)

...and all sharing the same user databases.... so we didn't have to create usersnames for everyone. We move all the images to the File Repositories. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:52, 5 August 2006 (CDT)

== Good News/Bad News ==

Doing some work on the [[MediaWiki talk:Edittools]] markup, I was trying to figure out why the markup was always driving us crazy. It was because of the current skin js code. So let me break this down more...
* Good News: The javascript code barily works with 1.7.1
* Bad News: For it to get fully working correctly, one of the classic skins needs to be enabled.

So... I'm a digging in the hangerbay and working on my CSS code and update the Hangerbay with 1.7.1 and also fix up my two skins with the new javascript. That's about it. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:32, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
:Also need a quick run on the <code>maintenance/update.php</code> on the hangerbay so it's to date with 1.7.1
::'''Update''': I did a manuall update. No worries now. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:34, 5 August 2006 (CDT)

''For discussions previously on [[User talk: Joe.Beaudoin]], please [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Archive|click here]].''
:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Beaudoin_Jr.&oldid=36068 March 6, 2006]
:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Beaudoin_Jr.&oldid=48191 April 20, 2006]
:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Beaudoin_Jr.&oldid=68805 August 6, 2006]

== Favicon ==

Joe... I'm not sure when you did it, but the new favicon appears... garbled in my Firefox. I think it's because of the image scaling. I'm guessing that it's just the logo shrunk down way. Personally, I think such a small picture should be MUCH simpler. Just thought I'd weigh in on that. I'm not demanding a change or anything, just piping up. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]]) 00:27, 14 May 2006 (CDT)

== Email Validation (2) ==

Earlier i posted to your [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.#Email validation|talk page about the problems]] I was having with email validation. Well I kinda forgot about it for a while but the issue has cropped up again now I am an administrator of thw wiki. I posted more details about it to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard#Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admins noticeboard]]. The email address that i am trying to validate is '''mattsims'''''@evilmerc.com'' Cheers --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 15:08, 1 July 2006 (CDT)
:Maybe some experimentation could be done over at the hangarbay to try to troubleshoot this? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:19, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
::I didnt get an email from the hangarbay wiki either. Possibly a problem with the way its set up on the server? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:51, 10 July 2006 (CDT)

== Subpages + Bot ==

Well.. I noticed something. Subpages for the '''User''', '''Battlestar Wiki talk''', and possaible some other namespaces. Maybe just turn them all on so it works as used. See [[Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp]] and [[Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp/Temp1]] for examples. I can also work on the task bot if Perl is complied into PHP. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:15, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
:The bot might be ready to run again. I uploaded a whole bunch of fixes to the file. Post any errors to my email. Run it using <tt>perl taskbot.pl OPENTASK_UPDATE</tt> --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:21, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
:No idea where to put this, but maybe the <tt>trusted</tt> group could get Patrol status. Patrol is just something to watch mark changes that they were seen. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:00, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
::'''UPDATE''': http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0 - Bot is working. :) Now it just needs to be added to the cron to run every 4 or 6 hours.
Joe, can you try running the bot. Wondering if you get the same error I get. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:27, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
: Sure. Testing now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:54, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
::Just for the sake, I don't think it will work. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:58, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
:::I can't do it right now for some reason anyway... Odd. I'll look into it after I get some things out of the way. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:07, 11 August 2006 (CDT)

== Setting up a mirror ==

MediaBlvd would like to offer up some of our server space and bandwidth as a mirror, if that would be useful. Great job here, all involved.

[[User:NetRanger|NetRanger]] 22:38, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
: Thanks for the offer! I'll try to get in contact with you in the next few days to iron out details. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:30, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
: Side note... we should really setup this also joe.

* www.battlestar.org (Splash Page)

* en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (english)
* de.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (german)
* es.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (spanish)
* hb.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (Test Wiki)

* media-0.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Our Inital Media Resository)
** Interactive Files (Images)
* media-1.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Could Be Net Ranger's Server, but out link)
** Interactive Files (Video, Sound, and Images)

...and all sharing the same user databases.... so we didn't have to create usersnames for everyone. We move all the images to the File Repositories. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:52, 5 August 2006 (CDT)

== Good News/Bad News ==

Doing some work on the [[MediaWiki talk:Edittools]] markup, I was trying to figure out why the markup was always driving us crazy. It was because of the current skin js code. So let me break this down more...
* Good News: The javascript code barily works with 1.7.1
* Bad News: For it to get fully working correctly, one of the classic skins needs to be enabled.

So... I'm a digging in the hangerbay and working on my CSS code and update the Hangerbay with 1.7.1 and also fix up my two skins with the new javascript. That's about it. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:32, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
:Also need a quick run on the <code>maintenance/update.php</code> on the hangerbay so it's to date with 1.7.1
::'''Update''': I did a manuall update. No worries now. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:34, 5 August 2006 (CDT)

== Domain Registrar ==

The domain registrar I use is [http://www.namecheap.com www.namecheap.com] and it $8.88 per domain per year. You can also pay via paypal. I am still in discussions with some people about hosting but I think that I can definitly save the wiki hundreds off the bill. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 02:45, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
: Awesome. As they say, a penny saved is a penny earned, and all that... :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 02:51, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:: Doubt they came up with that saying. :D --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 02:52, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::: Well, we don't know who exactly "they" are... "they" can be anybody. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 03:01, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Who is this "they", it seems "they" make all the decisions in the world and watch over us in a 1984 esqe secret society. I'm scared :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 03:32, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:::::Actually, thought Ben Franklin came up with that. Is he watching is ;-)? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 07:48, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

== [[State of the Wiki II]] ==

I wrote an update. It's so ugly and disasterous that I protected it, made it a silly page, and desperately ask other admins to help in making it usable. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 22:14, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
: LOL. Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:59, 15 August 2006 (CDT)

== DNS Prob ==

Did you contact 1and1? It's gotta be a DNS problem that not working. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:04, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
: I'll contact them (AceWebHosting) tonight. Been running around like a chicken with its head cut off for the past two days. lol -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:07, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
:: I know how you feel. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:22, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Updates? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:02, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
::::They said that it "is because your DNS zone is hosted on our name servers and when you add subdomains, those subdomain cannot be added to our nameservers. We've configured your DNS zone to resolve all subdomains to [IP address], it should fix this problem." So hopefully once everything propagates, it should work. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:39, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
:::::Interesting. I would think that would happen by default. lol. Ok... I will keep checking the subdomain. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:56, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
::::::Yes. But I don't think it's working though... I'll contact them again. Perhaps it's something else... Sigh. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:51, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Working. 500server error... it might be the .htaccess file so delete it once you get a chance. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:31, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Yes, I just woke up from my nap. Anyway, I fixed what happened. Apparently, it had to do with the nameservers I was using; I was using 1and1s nameservers (because I host my domains through 1and1, not AceWebHosting, which hosts BSG Wiki) and had to create a Glue Domain using the nameservers ns1.battlestarwiki.org and ns2.battlestarwiki.org. Fortunatley, it now works and I just have to go through .htaccess and see what's up. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:56, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

== Rewrite Rule ==

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/misc/rewriteguide.html - From Our Wikipedia Vandalism Squad --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:56, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
:<code>RewriteRule ^wiki/?(.*)$ /mediawiki/index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]</code> was right. We forgot to restart Apache. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:28, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
::Bah, I knew I forgot something. I ''now'' remember doing this when I set up the other language wikis. Frak me. I'll get to it tomorrow. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:53, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
:::My sources say that a reboot is not needed. That rewrite rule is for in the media folder itself. I had and idea of <code>RewriteRule ^wiki/?(.*)$ ../mediawiki/index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]</code> also on the <code>WWW</code>. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 22:02, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

== "Style" ==

I see that it is working now! What did you to fix it? Anyway, I sent you a quick update the LocalSettings.php file and the ZIP file containing the "hangerbay" style sheets. Follow the instructions in the email and everything should be set. Right now the skin that it set to is not found so I have no idea how you want to proceed. If you send me the style files for this style we are using now, I can edit the CSS file so everything can be unified and done only by CSS. It's both the "MediaWiki" color version and our colors version. Next time we are online. I guess we can work on transferring the images. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 17:11, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
: I restarted the server. I also had to remove the redirect rules in .htaccess, since they didn't work anyway. Other than that, everything looks good. I figure the best way to move all the images would be to just copy the pertinent tables from the en-wiki database and the corresponding image directories. Then we should be good. (Also, I've found out that unifying the username databases is next to impossible under the current MediaWiki software, which is why all the Wikipedia sites don't have a unifying logon yet.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:35, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
: I also didn't get the files yet, either. Then again, I can always just copy the style files from the hangarbay. (I'll also be sending along the CSS the current scheme to you shortly.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:36, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

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== International characters ==

Hey, Joe, how did you add the international characters 'insert' block at the bottom of the Edit pages? I have another Wiki project I'm working on, and having easy access to those special characters would be extremely nifty...--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 19:31, 21 March 2006 (CST)
: Well, here's what I did:
:# Download CharInsert.php from the Mediawiki CVS
:# Copy that into your "includes" diretory of your MediaWiki install
:# Add the following line to your LocalSettings.php file, near the top:
:#*<tt>require_once( "includes/CharInsert.php" );</tt>
:# Once that's done, save and upload the revised LocalSettings.php file.
:# After that, go to [[MediaWiki:Edittools]]. Copy and paste the code.
:# On your wiki, create a page with the same name. Paste the content and save.
:# After that, edit [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] on your wiki and insert:
:#* <tt><nowiki>{{MediaWiki:Edittools}}</nowiki></tt>
:And you should be set. If you need anything more, feel free to contact me. (Also, what's your Wiki?) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:54, 21 March 2006 (CST)
::Thank you!
::One modification I figurfed out is that <tt><nowiki>{{sitetools}}</nowiki></tt> won't actually work. It needs to be <tt><nowiki>{{MediaWiki:Edittools}}</nowiki></tt>, and that's what it is for you as well (I checked).
::I'm starting to put together a wiki for the fantasy series ''The Prince of Nothing'' by R. Scott Bakker. No idea if it'll take off, or not, but there seems to be at least a little interest on the Three Seas forum. Special characters abound in the names of people and places, so having a handy way to get those specials inserted for those who don't know how to do it with entities or from their keyboard will be a big win.--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 14:10, 22 March 2006 (CST)
::: Ack, sorry about that. Alien bimbos took my brain, since they lost Spock's. (As you can see, it has been returned.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 15:58, 22 March 2006 (CST)
:::: Alien bimbo brain thieves happen :-) When the wiki is ready for customers, I'll post the link in my user page :-) Thanks for the help!--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 16:45, 22 March 2006 (CST)

== Shane's Departure ==

I received the following in private comunication from Shane this morning:
:10:03:38 AM shane.WITHHELD@gmail.com: I have left the wiki because of your comments with merv about the RFC. You knew that was not an approved way, and Joe had already said so. So say we all.
:shane.WITHHELD@gmail.com disconnected (10:03:51 AM)

The comments he referred to can be found [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions#Succession Boxes|here]]. I am unaware of any comments by you to that effect, but felt that I should bring the matter to your attention in the event that I overlooked something. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 10:07, 27 March 2006 (CST)

: I might have missed something as well... because I don't recall ruling one way or the other. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 10:20, 27 March 2006 (CST)

:: You didn't. Shane is overreacting. There's far too much drama on both sides of this particular tiff, but Shane is overreacting badly, here.
:: Peter, for what it's worth, I don't see anything '''you've''' done that would constitute a reason someone should leave. Perhaps Shane was expecting more "protection" from what he saw as an unjust series of personal attacks, but I'm not sure that's a realistic expectation '''anywhere''' on the 'Net, let alone in a loosely-moderated universe such as this.--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 10:25, 27 March 2006 (CST)

::: You are indeed correct, UncleMikey, when it comes to the drama on both sides of this issue. Both sides are at fault. I believe that it would be best if both sides shed the negativity, take a deep breath, and start anew from the same page, as it were. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 11:07, 27 March 2006 (CST)

: On second thought, I believe he thinks that the RFC process is something that I had apparently not approved of. (Quite contrary, seeing as I imported it from the English Wikipedia to deal with future issues, should they arise.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 10:27, 27 March 2006 (CST)

== On Gmail ==

Need to talk please. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:20, 31 March 2006 (CST)

== Something a bit cool... ==

The traffic comparison links you posted are impressive, Joe. Memory Alpha still beats us handily, but we're not THAT far behind. And we're neck and frakin' neck with BattlestarGalactica.com. Amazing. Go us! --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 00:44, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
: To quote Teal'c: Indeed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 00:50, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
:I have two things: First, what day was BSWiki originally created? Because the thing there lists when the new location was moved to, but not the original creation date. Second, Joe, not a lot of people use BattlestarGalactica.com, relatively speaking. On the various dozen fansites and messageboards I'm always checking, most rely on GalacticaStation.com.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 15:16, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
::Admittedly the numbers on GS aren't as high, but it's a lot better organized and updated on a daily basis, while BS.com has never been my first pic for up to date news. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 15:20, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
:::My best guess would fall somewhere around "22:48, 17 November 2004" based on [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Main_Page/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=742 this diff], which is the oldest diff under Joe's account. That's not really definitive proof, but given the content of the edit (and other edits around that time) it seems like that's when things were first getting off the ground. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:26, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
:: In reply to Merv: I launched the site early November 2004; it didn't really hit the ground running until February 2005 in my mind. As for GS, we blow GS out of the water from the look of things. I did want to compare us to Wookieepedia, but it only compares the whole domain (wikia.org), not the individual folder's under theat domain. It would be interesting how we spar with the Star Wars wiki though. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:28, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
:::Well Star Wars simply has a greater amount of material. I mean it's not just six movies it's an ever expanding book series. I guarantee it's bigger than anything Star Trek could ever make on an encyclopedia; not a matter of quality, simply in terms of numbers of names, places, events and so forth that make up an encyclopedia. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])
::::I'm not too sure about that. 3+7+7+7+3 = 27 seasons of television + 10 movies + a whole bunch of novels? Star Trek has a lot of material too, although less of it is "canon". [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 21:50, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::Over 700 episodes. But there's a LOAD of information in the EU books. I don't even read the Star Trek books, but the Star Wars books are a really good continuation of the universe.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 21:51, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
::::::My understanding is that the "Expanded Universe" series of Star Wars books aren't exactly canon themselves. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:52, 4 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::::[[Wikipedia:Star Wars canon|It's complicated and involves code letters, holocrons, and a madman]]; anyway, the novels are canon, just 2nd tier.
:::::::: I'm sorry. That just makes my teeth itch. If George Lucas would feel free to ignore it if he wrote any more ''Star Wars'' stories -- which I'm pretty sure he would, given that he ignores his '''own''' continuity on occasion -- then it's not canon. It doesn't matter how authors, publishers, and fanboys dress it up they can make themselves feel better about it, it's still not canon.--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 11:42, 5 April 2006 (CDT)

== Possible Bug ==

"A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
(SQL query hidden)
from within function "WatchedItem::addWatch". MySQL returned error "1048: Column 'wl_notificationtimestamp' cannot be null (localhost)"." at http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Deck_Crew_5&action=submit on an attempt to enter
<nowiki>"At the time of the [[Cylon Attack]], Deck Crew 5 consisted of:

* CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]
* Deckhand [[Socinus]]
* Deckhand [[Prosna]]
* Deckhand [[Cally]]

This deck crew was attached to ''[[Battlestar]] [[Galactica]]'', formerly a part of [[BSG 75|Battlestar Group 75]], and responsible for maintenance of the battlestar's crafts, such as [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptors]].

[[Category: A to Z]] [[Category: RDM]]"</nowiki>
as the content.
While I'm on the subject, the bottom of the edit pages are sort of a mess. (The "Insert: ... Syntax: ..." box appears twice, once with <nowiki>{{spoiler}}</nowiki> substituted in, I think.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 16:51, 5 April 2006 (CDT)

:I got the same thing submitting that; it seems the changes go through anyway. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]

:: It's a watchlist thing... I'm attempting to fix it now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:58, 5 April 2006 (CDT)

::: I fixed it. Apparently there was a bug in the update.php syntax, which reorganized the database. I also fixed the issue with the Edittools... mostly. The box itself is fine, sans the two spoiler warning messages. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:07, 5 April 2006 (CDT)

:::: Thanks. That was downright freakishly fast. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 20:23, 5 April 2006 (CDT)

::::: It's what I do. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:28, 5 April 2006 (CDT)

:The last <nowiki></div></nowiki> is being outputed in HTML. In your spam filter might be the problem. This is why right now the portals boxs don't encase the text. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 01:41, 6 April 2006 (CDT)

== 1.6 Upgrade ==

Can we install the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php cite extension] now? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 09:13, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
: We sure can. Any other extensions come to mind? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:16, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
:: [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EasyTimeline Timeline!!!] --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 09:40, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
:::No objection, but where do you see this being useful? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 11:03, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
::::The timeline area. Heck.. if's good for something I use it, even if where for just one thing. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:16, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::I suppose we can have that discussion there, if necessary. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:43, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
::Perhaps you could try to experiment with getting Checkuser up and running? It might be helpful in the event of another Spam Blizzard (for doing an ip range block). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:28, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
::: The checkuser function works. It began working when the database itself was restructured. (I guess it was meant to work with 1.6 rather than 1.5...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:08, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
:'''Battlestar Wiki''' subpages needed to be active. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:53, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
:: they have released 1.6.2 which fixes the <nowiki></taghere></nowiki> problem. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 01:49, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

== Portals ==

Has the Portrals system been activated since the upgrade? I can't find it linked off of anything, and can only find it through "recent changes". If it is being used, I'd like to help fix it up to quality content standards (not code, but BSG info). --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 13:32, 6 April 2006 (CDT)

:The portals are still works in progress. They still don't work quite the way they're expected to, in terms of being able to use the templates to handle most of the formatting. [[Battlestar Wiki:Portals]] has a list of all the portals that are in progress. Also, at your suggestion I started [[User:Steelviper/MemoryAlpha]] as a test at fitting the BSG wiki content into a Memory-alpha style main page.

:I'd propose that we not get too caught up in the implementation details of the portals, and focus more on form, function, and content. The average user probably doesn't care if we have to use html under the covers, as long as the information they want to get to and edit is easy to do so. I'd like to be able to use wiki-code to accomplish everything, but I'd rather move forward in the meantime, with the knowledge that we can always patch back the formatting to wikicode as soon as we figure out how to do so. The top box in [[Portal:Cylons]] is currently hardcoded with html, and provides a better example of how the portal boxes should look. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:46, 6 April 2006 (CDT)

::(I'm saying this in bold not because I'm mad, just as a highlighting tool): '''When the Portals are officially "open for business", post a message giving the official go ahead, here or on my user talk page.''' Until then, I'm considering them a '''work in progress''', and I don't want to mess with them. I don't understand wiki code very well. When the time comes that it is officially "ready", please tell me so I can start connecting all the links and writing it up, etc. Thanks. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 13:52, 6 April 2006 (CDT)

:::Will do. I understand that you are primarily a content editor/contributor, and currently most of the issues with the portals are more of a technical nature. I look forward to the portals "going live" so that they can be under your Vigilant scrutiny. I may ask your input (from a content/layout/design perspective) on my memory-alpha ripoff, but I'll drop you a note on your talk when it's ready for such scrutiny. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:59, 6 April 2006 (CDT)

== HTML ==

Ok here are the reasons they think why we have extra </div> and </table> tags over the site.
:# None Vaild XHTML - Would meaning updating this site code so that the wikicode (main page included) <nowiki>''''text''''</nowiki> and <nowiki>'''text'''</nowiki> would format out the correct tags <nowiki></nowiki> and <nowiki></nowiki>
:#Y<strike>our site header message is not Wikified.</strike> - Done by Steel
:#any non-vaild XHTML would auto-break it.
:#Doctype - this can be changed to HTML regular instead.
--[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:35, 11 April 2006 (CDT)
:[http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPortal%3AArts&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline Wikipedia Arts Portal Page] --- Vaild XHTML.
::Ok, we got the Portal:Cylon page vaild XHTML (I think). With that not working they want to make sure:
<pre>
4:41p (Duesentrieb) $wgUseTidy = false;
4:41p (Duesentrieb) in LocalSettings.php (like all settings)
</pre>
::So that's the story so far in the quest to get Portal's working. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 15:40, 11 April 2006 (CDT)
:::I added the appropriate line in LocalSettings.php. Let me know what else needs to be done. Thanks. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:07, 11 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I need a gun because this thing is so werid!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@ I think I almost done everything that they say. Right now it's set to false? Cause I just retested Portal:Cylons and no joy. If it's set to false, change it to true and tell me. Then I will test it again, unless it was already set to true before, then you do not need to. Back to IRC I go... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:34, 11 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::On GTalk right now, if you can get on real quick that would be great. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:14, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

== Sysop Privs on Battlewiki-Deutsch ==

I think that I currently lack sysop privs over at the German-language version of the site. I was pondering helping in the import/export effort to get completed pages moved over there. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:02, 17 April 2006 (CDT)
: You're now an admin over at Battlestar Wiki-Deutsch. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 22:04, 18 April 2006 (CDT)

== System Clock ==

The clock appears to be over an hour slow. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 03:23, 18 April 2006 (CDT)
: It's a minor issue that I cannot change at server level (I've already tried a month or so ago). I was going to contact the host and note this, but never got around to it. It's minor, so it's not priority right now (but it's on my to-do list nonetheless). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 22:06, 18 April 2006 (CDT)

== All Projects Link ==

Could that be ponited to [[Battlestar Wiki:Project List]]? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:37, 20 April 2006 (CDT)
: Done. Great idea Shane! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:42, 20 April 2006 (CDT)

''For discussions previously on [[User talk: Joe.Beaudoin]], please [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Archive|click here]].''
:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Beaudoin_Jr.&oldid=36068 March 6, 2006]
:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Beaudoin_Jr.&oldid=48191 April 20, 2006]

== Design Improvements ==

Just a few minor design improvements.
*<s>1. On the image pages the mime/type text is white font on white background. The text of this or background box colour should be changed in the css to be black. </s>http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4151/bsgdesignimprovements11xv.png
** Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:49, 20 April 2006 (CDT)
*2. The tiny little logon man perhaps changed to something more relevant, bgs logo or viper insignia http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2377/bsgdesignimprovements27up.png
*<s>3. Redirect image should be inverted, this is how it look right now </s>http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1546/bsgdesignimprovements30lv.png
** Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:49, 20 April 2006 (CDT)
* [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 08:13, 29 March 2006 (CST)

: When considering design changes, please keep in mind that not everyone reads the site using the default theme. I, for one, find the black background with bright text extraordinarily hard -- downright painful -- on the eyes, particularly in contrast with just about every other program and web site I use. I'm using the straight Monobook theme in my preferences. As a result, there are already some boxes that are all but unreadable unless I highlight the text in them.
: (Ironically, I used to feel just the opposite, but the predominance of white-background websites and GUIs has shifted my preferences. It's easier to go with the flow than to find ways to change every single GUI system I use). --[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 10:20, 29 March 2006 (CST)
::Would it help on the boxes if we specified the white foreground? Granted, this would go against the rest of the text on the page, but I'd think that it'd make it look closer to how it is intended. However, you still have the blue links (unless that can be specified as well). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:12, 29 March 2006 (CST)
:::Might help. It seems to me that there ought to be some way to make sure that template boxes &c integrate with the theme (using style-sheet names for things, &c), but I haven't messed enough with Mediawiki themes to know exactly how you'd do it portably.--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 16:16, 29 March 2006 (CST)
::::You're absolutely right. That would be the correct way to do it. I too, however, lack that [[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_styles|knowledge]], and so I end up reaching for the quick/easy/ugly hack. Day has mentioned looking into such things in the past. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:25, 29 March 2006 (CST)
:::::I'm pretty good with CSS. I'll look into this, but I don't want to commit to a project I won't have time to see through properly. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:52, 29 March 2006 (CST)

:::::: I would feel comfortable commiting to this project, time-wise. I feel confident enough in my CSS skills that I either know or know how to find out anything that would be needed to be done... I just need to remember to email Joe about which files do what and that kind of thing. Then... Do we put the CSS labels in spans and divs in the Wikicode, then? Or somehow mesh it into the XHTML generated by MediaWiki? --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 01:34, 30 March 2006 (CST)

::::::: I'm not too pro in the likes of CSS but perhaps in the meantime something like the redirect image could be made as a red arrow with a transparent png background then it would ok on both a white and a black background? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:38, 30 March 2006 (CST)

== Sysop Privs on Battlewiki-Deutsch ==

I think that I currently lack sysop privs over at the German-language version of the site. I was pondering helping in the import/export effort to get completed pages moved over there. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:02, 17 April 2006 (CDT)
: You're now an admin over at Battlestar Wiki-Deutsch. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 22:04, 18 April 2006 (CDT)

== System Clock ==

The clock appears to be over an hour slow. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 03:23, 18 April 2006 (CDT)
: It's a minor issue that I cannot change at server level (I've already tried a month or so ago). I was going to contact the host and note this, but never got around to it. It's minor, so it's not priority right now (but it's on my to-do list nonetheless). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 22:06, 18 April 2006 (CDT)

== All Projects Link ==

Could that be ponited to [[Battlestar Wiki:Project List]]? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:37, 20 April 2006 (CDT)
: Done. Great idea Shane! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:42, 20 April 2006 (CDT)
:: Weird. It works point to that page when I view your User page, but when I goto the main page and hover over the link, it goes stright back to catgoery listing. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:49, 20 April 2006 (CDT)
::: Did you try a hard-refresh? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:52, 20 April 2006 (CDT)
:::: I just purged the server-files. It works now :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:53, 20 April 2006 (CDT)

== Email validation ==

It has come to my attention that my email address is "not yet authenticated". I have clicked the "Confirm your e-mail address" button but i dont get anyhitng sent to me. I have checked my emails and spam box but nothing from BSWiki? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 12:17, 23 April 2006 (CDT)
: Have you checked to ensure that the e-mail address you provided in your preferences is the correct one? Even if it looks right, try re-entering it again from scracth, then apply the changes. If not, I'll confirm it from my end (which means going into the DB itself). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:26, 23 April 2006 (CDT)
::Just checked email address and its all correct. Tried submitting again but wont be able to know if its worked until i get home from work tonight. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 04:21, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:::Nope, still no activation link. :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 12:24, 24 April 2006 (CDT)

== SVG Images ==

Could we support SVG images? The timeline image I am working on has SVG capabilities and it is a growing file format. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:23, 23 April 2006 (CDT)
:Its still not supported by many browsers. I say stick with PNG for now. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 04:19, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
::Mediawiki will fall back to PNG rendering if SVG isn't supported on the browser. I don't see a problem. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 10:08, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:::I learned something today :) --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 10:25, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:::'"In browsers such as Internet Explorer and Safari, a plugin is needed to view SVG content. ...Internet Explorer users must separately download it." -[[Wikipedia:SVG]] As fun as using new, better things is, it's not practical to exclude large portions of your user base. Content negotiation is at best a bad solution, at worst not a solution. --CalculatinAvatar 13:39, 29 March 2006 (CST)' -[[Image talk:ColonialColors9.png]]
:::Given [[Wikipedia:Common criticisms_of_Internet_Explorer#HTTP_and_MIME]], I still don't see content negotiation as a strong solution, barring Mediawiki behaving in a disturbing manner by giving IE the image as PNG regardless of what it requests. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 22:04, 24 April 2006 (CDT)

SVG should be enabled now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:19, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

== New Extension ==

Mind if ya give it a testing? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Calendar_extension It would be cool if you could setup like a private wiki so I do some code work on it. You know I'm worth it! :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:09, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
: I set up the [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/hangarbay Hangar Bay] for testing. Did you need FTP access as well? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:19, 25 April 2006 (CDT)
::Yeah. You can find me on Gtalk. Need to be able to edit that Localsetting.php file. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:22, 25 April 2006 (CDT)
:::When you get the chance, you can disable the Calendar ext. Right now it's not working. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 08:19, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

== Pointer ==

Just in case you missed it, something new appeared [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Archive#Slander|here]]. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 21:37, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
: Thanks for the keen eye! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:20, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

== Main Page Redesign (part 2) and other ==

I think we are ready to submit the current design at [[Battlestar Wiki:Main page]] for depolyment on the front page. IF you think it's a go, we just have to create the backend pages on the same "[[Battlestar Wiki:Main page]]" (subpages that would be sysop locked) so we can use those as for the places to edit the information and that is controled.) The only thing that we would have to work on as a community is the Featured Picture and Article process as of the data used right now is jsut a mockup.

The "News" front, even for site news has a new home at [[Battlestar Wiki:News]] so the "Current Events" link would need to be changed.

We wouls still be workong on [[Battlestar Wiki:Main page]] to make the design use CSS so people can switch skinjs between the default and the monobook skins. That is the next step, but since most people use this skin, right now the hardcoded values are fine. (we do this at the Hanger Bay site, which is werid. jsut tried looking at the preferences, and it fails. (I'll work on this.)).

With that in mind, I pretty much got he Calender ext. working and possiable could get cite.php to work on the Hanger bay so we know the setup. That's about it. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:57, 29 April 2006 (CDT)
: Calendar extension enabled. I'll begin implementing the new main page at present. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:54, 1 May 2006 (CDT)

== Cite.php ==

I just noticed something when working on the Hangerbay...u need...

<pre>
require_once( "extensions/Cite.php" );
require_once( "includes/DefaultSettings.php" );
</pre>

in the LocalSettings.php file. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:11, 30 April 2006 (CDT)
: That's odd, seeing as this is included by default... I'll try it anyway. --[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:36, 1 May 2006 (CDT)
: I just included it (and made a note on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php) the alternative method. So Cite now works. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:53, 1 May 2006 (CDT)

User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Archive11

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== Late congratulations ==

Hello, Joe! Until a few hours ago, I had no idea that the Battlestar Wiki had been restored months ago. Thanks for fighting the ''very'' long fight! -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] ([[User talk:BlueResistance|talk]]) 16:18, 6 January 2020 (PST)
: Hello, Blue! Happy to see you back! It's been a long time, for sure, but it's worth it. I look forward to continuing on into 2020 and beyond! Good hunting. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:43, 7 January 2020 (PST)

== Allowing user CSS and JS use ==

Hi Joe, I wish you a Happy New Year! Hope you're fine. Is it possible please to modify the <tt>LocalSettings.php</tt> file as followed:
<pre>
$wgAllowUserCss = true;
$wgAllowUserJs = true;
</pre>
This to allow work on CSS in order to look like the [[:fr:|French Wiki]] (color and scheme) for testing if you want to. After the right attempts, I would like to implement the css on the [[MediaWiki:Timeless.css]] page. Thank you very much. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 11:09, 18 January 2020 (PST)
: Done and done! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:55, 18 January 2020 (PST)
<gallery widths=400px heights=280px>
File:English wiki by LIMAFOX76.png|Image of a modified Main Page taken with my [[User:LIMAFOX76/timeless.css|CSS template]].
File:Main English with CSS.png|Image of the current Main Page (2020-01-27) with my personal CSS template.
</gallery>
:: Hi Joe, Here is a first glimpse of what could be {{SITENAME}} with a look similar to the [[:fr:|French one]]. Tell me what you think... Some reverse writing (white on white) must be fixed. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 02:10, 24 January 2020 (PST)
::: Hi Joe, I updated my "Main Page" example (see on the right). Tell me what you think. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 00:01, 27 January 2020 (PST)
:::: Is there a way to use that skin (as a standard) on the german page? [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 14:20, 4 April 2020 (PDT)
::::: Yes. I wanted to test and tweak it on the English wiki before I rolled it out on the Media Repository and the German wiki. I think I'm nearly done with the testing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]

== Allowing download of TTF and OTF files ==

Joe, can you please add the "ttf" and "otf" extensions in the [[:md:|Battlestar Wiki Media]] <tt>LocalSettings.php</tt> authorized files so I would be able to use extra fonts for the wiki's look. Thank you very much! Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 04:22, 24 January 2020 (PST)

: Best to email me the files sent me directly, so I can upload these directly to the Skins folders: webmaster (at) battlestarwiki (dot) org. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:51, 24 January 2020 (PST)

:: I dove in and modified the "Timeless" CSS, cloning it into "Daybreak" and have begun additional stylings, see: [[MediaWiki:Daybreak.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Daybreak.js]].

:: Once things are locked in on EN, I'll deploy on DE and the Media Repository, too. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:42, 26 March 2020 (PDT)
::: I am happy to see the old look back! :-D [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 10:22, 26 March 2020 (PDT)

== The Return of... the spammers! ==

Hi Joe, It seems that the spammer bots (or not) have found a way to strike back. May it is time to add some new questions the the Questy-Captcha inside the LocalSettings.php file. I made some for "my" English version attempt. I'll send you via email to your admin. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 13:34, 14 March 2020 (PDT)

: Cheers! Received your email. Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:11, 14 March 2020 (PDT)

:: Hi Joe, It seems that the spammers are attacking the German wiki. I cannot prevent them as I have no admin right. Can you do something please? Thank you. Cheers!--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 07:34, 19 March 2020 (PDT)

::: On it. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:31, 20 March 2020 (PDT)

::: Looks like [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] already handled it! Cheers! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:34, 20 March 2020 (PDT)

Update: I've removed some of the older CAPTCHA questions, since they were easily cracked (ergo the influx of spammers as of late). Furthermore, given our increase in SEO, I suspect that spammers are salivating and thus we're seeing a lot more attention now than we did when we relaunched. Reminds me of the "good ol' days." -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:44, 21 March 2020 (PDT)
: <big>'''147!'''</big> That's crasy though. Big job! Ouf! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 09:10, 21 March 2020 (PDT)

:: Can you please disable the annoying captcha questions for my account here. It is really disturbing my work here and you know I will do no mess here. And can you repair or reintroduce the page click counter? [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 10:22, 26 March 2020 (PDT)
::: Hi Enabran, the page click counter has been disabled on recent versions of MediaWiki. You need another extension to enable it. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 11:15, 26 March 2020 (PDT)
::: Enabran, I'll check into disabling the captcha. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:29, 26 March 2020 (PDT)
:::: LIMA, all the page click counters are pretty much beta or untested versions. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:29, 26 March 2020 (PDT)
::::: Great, thank you :-) [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 01:44, 27 March 2020 (PDT)
:::::: I would say to try [[md:Extension:GoogleAnalyticsMetrics|GoogleAnalyticsMetrics]] but we become dependant to Google. ;-)
: The Spammers are back. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 01:50, 8 April 2020 (PDT)
:: Enabran, do you have an email address so I can send you questions you can translate in German? Thank you. Cheers!
::: [https://de.battlestarwiki.org/Benutzer:Enabran here] on my german profile
:::: Email sent! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 03:16, 8 April 2020 (PDT)

Here I have got a new user every 6 Minutes... They do not spam at the moment. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 03:10, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
: Hi Enabran, please block all of them, they don't have correct names for a "classic user", like First name/Last name with no space, and a random number at the end. They all smell upcoming spammers. As you named me admin (thank you), I can help you for this. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 04:12, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
: Hi Joe, can you please use Enabran's translation of the different questions you received by email to improve the German wiki's protection? Thank you very much! Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 04:20, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
:: Will do. I was planning to roll it out over this weekend, but I'll address it now given the issues. I'll loop around when I'm done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:28, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
:: It is completed, Imperious Leaders! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:05, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
::: Now we can resume our plan!! ;-) --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 12:11, 10 April 2020 (PDT)

== TOS-Cast-Chaos ==
Oh man...
chaos in the cast datas of Battlestar Galactica TOS!

For example, there is a name of a role during the credits. When you go to Imdb, there is another given name. Then you figure out that the actor was married x times and had x names.
What do I do now when I create an article? Here in the Wiki, each role needs an article for the actor. Do I now give article the name given in the credits, the current name of the actor, their birthname or the artist name of IMDB?

This lady, for example: [[Janet Lynn Curtis]]
the credits say: Janet Lynn Curtis - Sorell (only 1 r unlike the [[Sorrell]] here, anotehr mistake?)
IMDb entry for her https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0193371/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm

says Janet Prescott ??? how so??? Born as Janet Lynn Curtis, married to Glen A. Larson and therefore a Janet Larson or Janet Curtis-Larson.
We need a guidline.[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 07:13, 31 March 2020 (PDT)

: I see there was a discussion on this begun at [[Talk:Sheila DeWindt]]. It's best to follow what we've done with [[Janet Lansbury]], with redirects from the original name as credited in the episode, and go from there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:55, 31 March 2020 (PDT)
:: And what would be the accurate Articlename for Janet? [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 11:02, 31 March 2020 (PDT)
::: For Janet Lynn Curtis, the primary article name would be [[Janet Lansbury]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:36, 31 March 2020 (PDT)
:::: Sure! But sorry I was not clear enough with my last post, I was meaning [[Janet Lynn Curtis|that Janet]] ;-) and here we have the big mess [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 23:37, 31 March 2020 (PDT)
::::: Oh! sorry! I thought they were the one and the same Janet! (They're not.) I've moved that to [[Janet Prescott]]... and I believe she was actually married to Glen Larson for a time! Worth further investigation! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 07:41, 1 April 2020 (PDT)
:::::: That's what I have done. She was married with Larson from 1982 - 2008. It was her only marriage. She was born as Janet Lynn Curtis and she is only credited as forms of Janet Curtis or Janet Larson-Curtis. I do not know where the Prescot comes from. Other Sources name her Janet Larson-Curtis [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 09:44, 1 April 2020 (PDT)
::::::: She went by Curtis-Prescott in 2017 per [https://harrismanagement.prezly.com/janet-curtis-prescott-hollywood-veteran-producer--writer-signs-with-harris-management this press release], so that's where Prescott comes from. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:08, 1 April 2020 (PDT)
* [[Paul Coufos]]: My research has shown that the actor cannot be the black guy seen on the picture in the article. See here: https://ultimatesoapfan.fandom.com/wiki/Paul_Coufos Also the Paul Coufos in the movie with the giant rats is white. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 03:06, 4 May 2020 (PDT)
:: Great find! Feel free to update! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:17, 4 May 2020 (PDT)
::: I found out, that [https://www.cultcelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/the-lost-empire-1984-22.jpg this] is Paul Coufos and that he might be at least the [http://www.galacticabbs.com/gallery_images/1162842570/gallery_4836_93_10949.jpg Pilot] at the beginning from war of gods and I found him in the [http://www.galacticabbs.com/gallery_images/1161982284/gallery_4836_79_29559.jpg Saga of a Starworld]. But who is the black guard in Lost Planet? Maybe the credits are wrong? One of the 2 Guards is Bruce Wright. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 12:01, 4 May 2020 (PDT)

== Things I cannot do ==

* If you have time, there is that family-tree-thing, that I never managed to do, what I want it to do. Maybe someone of you can repair that stuff. Here is one of 2 I use on the german page: [https://de.battlestarwiki.org/Vorlage:Adama_Stammbaum_(TOS) TOS Adama Tree] thank you --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 14:26, 4 April 2020 (PDT)

:: Yes, I'll see about deploying the Family Tree extension in the next behind-the-scenes updates. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:47, 4 April 2020 (PDT)

* When I see the Castdata or Crewdata, is it possible to add 2 nationalities to the actors infobox? Tricia Helfer is both US and CA. Maybe someting like you did with the Series 1,2,3 icons. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 05:54, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
:: - Solved [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 00:42, 4 May 2020 (PDT)

* Layout: When I have a template [https://de.battlestarwiki.org/Vorlage:Schlachtdaten like this] used for battles [https://de.battlestarwiki.org/Tausend-Yahren-Krieg like that] how can I force the Matrix to add a little space between "Ergebnis:" and "Entscheidender zylonischer Sieg..."?
:: Hi Enabran. I think I fixed it with adding a "padding-rigth" on the template, waiting until you have the next "Daybreak" skin. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 05:32, 5 April 2020 (PDT)
::: thank you Lima! It looks much better now. I will use it in my other templates too. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 06:13, 5 April 2020 (PDT)
:::: - Solved [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 00:42, 4 May 2020 (PDT)

== Uploading a new version of an existing file on [[:md:|Media Battlestar Wiki]] ==

Hi Joe, Several times, I tried to upload a better version of existing files on the Media repository. Every time I have a error appearing and I have issues to retrieve it on the English wiki. Is it possible please to check and fix this point. It may be a question of read/write access or owner/group issues (<tt>www-data</tt>) for MediaWiki on the "Images" folder. Thank you very much. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 12:25, 7 April 2020 (PDT)
: Which files in particular? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:42, 7 April 2020 (PDT)
:: [[:File:Dancer.jpg]], [[:File:Carillon.jpg]], [[:File:Anton.jpg]] for example. Some are okay now but every time, I had an error message for after uploading the update, and I had to refresh/purge several times in the media repository AND the English wiki to have the image in the good way. But now it's correct. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 23:49, 7 April 2020 (PDT)
::: Ah, got it! I've run into that myself with some of the older images — even though it may throw a "Database Exception" error, it still uploads the image. I believe some of that is due to the fact that MW has changed so much, and even though I run the update/cleanup scripts, some of the info in the DB is so old that it throws these errors.
::: I am further aware of a lag when uploading an image to the Media Repository, and then having that information communicated through the API of the load balancer. It happens even on brand new files. Sometimes it's pretty quick/instantaneous, sometimes it isn't. I've surmised that it depends on what AWS is feeling at that particular moment. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:40, 8 April 2020 (PDT)
::: Joe, my IP was blocked on the Mediawiki page. I cannot upload more images. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 05:54, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
::: Which IP are you talking about? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 06:56, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
::::IP address is 172.31.21.31, and the block ID is #7178. But I have seen, he block is until tomorrow - something I can live with... [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 07:05, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
::::: Try now... --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 07:07, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
:::::: Well done! [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 09:17, 10 April 2020 (PDT)
::::::: I am blocked again: Your current IP address is 172.31.82.0, and the block ID is #7181.[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 06:45, 13 April 2020 (PDT)
:::::::: IP unblock done! Joe, I think you can put the English wiki's questions on the LocalSettings.php for [[:md:|the Media repository]]. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 08:43, 13 April 2020 (PDT)

== Message for you on Chief's noticeboard ==

I posted an observation / suggestion at [[Battlestar_Wiki:Chiefs%27_noticeboard#Improperly_Archived_Talk_Pages]] --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] ([[User talk:April Arcus|talk]]) 20:00, 12 April 2020 (PDT)

== Unanswered Question for "Torn" episode ==

I hate to say this, but your premise is wrong. Baltar used more than "just" reading the sacred scriptures. For example, Gaeta says that Baltar also used the "map of the constellations found on Kobol". I didn't want to just delete your contribution. {{unsigned|TheRichmeister}}
: Hello there! That's a great point, and you're right.
: Also, I've taken a look at your concern, and found that I didn't make that particular addition ({{canonicalurl:Torn|diff=90231&oldid=90229}}), as another editor had. Also, you're more than welcome to post on the talk page of the article in question with such concerns like these, as I (and the other active admins) monitor the [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]] list. (I've seen that you've made quite a few welcome, and much needed changes, so kudos!) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:48, 8 May 2020 (PDT)

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== Florida ==

'''I lived in Orlando during the big 3 that was an ugly couple months without electricity or water.
(Hurricane Charlie, Frances and Jeanne)

Since I consider Galactica to be a geek culture related entertainment and you live in Florida have you heard of the Dice Tower convention in Kissimmee? Its a board game convention that last 5 days.

SS''' {{unsigned|Navaji}}

: Hello SS! I haven't heard of it. Also, I no longer live in Florida, having moved to California some time ago. Still, send me whatever information you have on the Dice Tower Convention, and I'll take a look! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:14, 6 July 2019 (PDT)

== Skin job ==

With the wiki online we really need to get it back looking its best. The 'Timeless' theme is a little scruffy in places compared to Monobook with inconsistent use of fonts and category placements. How do we go about editing this theme to bring back the classic BSwiki Burgundy and Gold look and feel? Should be usilise modern webfont code to bring familiar and relevant fonts like Battlestar, Spaceage/Galactiguise, Bank Gothic, Eurostile etc to things like headers and subheadings

Also what is going to be done about the battlestarwikiclone? I gather there were some discussions about shutting it down and redirecting back to this wiki but its still very much online and clowding google search results.

Lastly I've been in discussions with the .wiki registrar but that conversation is best to be done in private.

Regards
--[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 02:22, 16 July 2019 (PDT)

: 1. Agreed. It's going to take time for that, so if you have any mockup ideas you want to throw together in PhotoShop, I'd definitely like to see 'em!
: 2. I've been talking to Shane @ Wikiclone, but he dropped off back in late May. I've been trying to reestablish communication with him to see what we can do to either obtain the domain name or update the Wikiclone to point to the resurrected Wiki.
:3. Ping me on the .wiki thing. Not sure if that's even worth obtaining, as I feel it's just vanity -- but if it's a no-brainer price, then that might change my mind. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:49, 16 July 2019 (PDT)
::CloneShane is still active on Twitter do you want me to give him a poke? As for skins I've just been looking at the skin on the french wiki that LIMAFOX76 has put together here http://fr.battlestarwiki.ddns.net/index.php/Accueil (p.s. lets get the FR subdomain back online so he can lead on that project here rather than spinning off onto his own server, see conversation below). Can we use that design here with the Vector skin and use a mediawiki extension to chance to Timeless on mobile devices using the MobileFrontend ext? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 06:38, 18 July 2019 (PDT)

::: I don't know about what others think, but I loved the old skin, especially the light version one. I think that was based on a skin designed by Paul Gu. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 23:57, 28 September 2019 (PDT)
:::: Hi Joe, I don't know if you want me to apply the [[:fr:|French wiki]]'s skin on the English one, but if you want so, you should give me the "MediaWiki namespace" changes rights. It's up to you (or a Senior Chief). Thanks a lot. Best Regards! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 12:40, 30 September 2019 (PDT)

== Interwiki to "my" French Battlestar Wiki ==

Hi Joe, Hope you're well. I would like to suggest you the following. As I try to maintain, improve and update the French Battlestar wiki on my personal server, would it be possible to update your "fr" interwiki url link like the following:
<pre>http://fr.battlestarwiki.ddns.net/index.php/$1</pre>
Two reasons for that:
* First, the French wiki is configured as I desire (Semantic MediaWiki + other stuff) so I do not have to ask you some extra extensions on the main site.
* Second, I give up my semantic English version and update my "en" interwiki link to BW (not a lot of time to spend on it unfortunately).
Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 00:38, 17 July 2019 (PDT)
::There used to be a French wiki installed on this website before it went dark for a year or two. Perhaps you'd like to take ownership of that here if we brought it back online? At the moment by spinning off onto your own website/personal server and using our branding you are causing a potential audience confusion. We want to bring the full Battlestar Wiki family back online here on this domain and it looks like you have the passion to lead the FR project here.

::Secondly you've done a nice colour scheme of Vector and keeping the angled corners which is nice. The original BSwiki themes that I co-developed are no longer compatible with the latest versions of MediaWiki and we are about to embark on developing new skins but in the mean time could we use what you've made? If you want to email me any skin code please do so at matt@simsmail.co.uk and we can have a better chat --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 06:32, 18 July 2019 (PDT)

:::Matt, see my [[User talk:LIMAFOX76#Lets get the wiki family back together|answer here]]. And there is no issue at all to use what I have done on my personal server to improve BW's style of course! Cheers!--[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 08:33, 18 July 2019 (PDT)

== Work on Battlestar Wiki Skin ==

Hi Joe, I started to work on the skin using a Timeless shape with BW original colors. It seems that I cannot use CSS3 to make cut borders but you can see a first glimpse on my [http://fr.battlestarwiki.ddns.net/index.php/Accueil French website]. What do you think? You can tell me. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 09:46, 23 July 2019 (PDT)
:It looks good so far. I have some more thoughts on fonts but I will email you later as they require attachments which cannot be posted here. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 04:07, 26 July 2019 (PDT)
:: I like it. I think the yellow and orange box borders could be more muted, perhaps different color (darker) reds? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:48, 3 August 2019 (PDT)
::: I worked on the main borders and the titles (darker yellow). I will check for the cut border (it's an image, need to edit it). Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 00:44, 4 August 2019 (PDT)
::: I just modified the cut border color. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 00:55, 4 August 2019 (PDT)
::: One change again on dark red for the cut border color. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 10:08, 4 August 2019 (PDT)

== German Battlestar Wiki issues ==

Links from english to german sites are working but no links from german sites to english sites are working.-- [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 02:40, 4 August 2019 (PDT)
: I put back this conversation here (you were on an archive). Hi Enabran, The German interwiki is not configured correctly. It points to the former address (with a <tt>wiki</tt> inside it. It has to be changed by an "Interwiki" group member (not you nor me for now). Just as a reminder, in the German LocalSettings.php the following line has to be changed from (that's for you Joe)
<pre>$wgLanguageCode = "en";</pre>
to
<pre>$wgLanguageCode = "de";</pre>
Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 03:03, 4 August 2019 (PDT)
: Handled the LanguageCode. Am handling the English interwiki link fixes now... :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:46, 4 August 2019 (PDT)

:: Thank you Limafox and Joe :-) -- [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 09:31, 4 August 2019 (PDT)

There are problems with our templates. But I do not have the skills to solve them. When you look at a german ship, the page does not look like the english ship.

http://de.battlestarwiki.org/Kampfstern,_Valkyrie-Typ
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/Valkyrie_type_battlestar

I think the error must be here, but I have no clue where:
http://de.battlestarwiki.org/Vorlage:Schiffsdaten

: Hi Enabran, It's not your template by itself, but the previous Battlestar-made skin used built-in classes (like "infobox"). The MediaWiki skins don't have it by itself and put a "default" class template. You have to create those classes inside the <tt>[[de:MediaWiki:Common.css|MediaWiki:Common.css]]</tt> and <tt>[[de:MediaWiki:Timeless.css|MediaWiki:Timeless.css]]</tt> pages. For that, you have to declare yourself Interface Administrator with your [http://de.battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=Spezial%3ABenutzerrechte&user=Enabran User rights] page. You can copy-paste the [[MediaWiki:Timeless.css|English Timeless.css page]] on your German page, and see the results. It should be a first test before a definitive skin for the wiki (working on it). Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 06:14, 1 September 2019 (PDT)

:: I got it. Thank you!

And where can I include the Colonial Logo to the left of every side or change the left bar of the site?
: Unfortunately you cannot do anything for that, it's a file declared in the Wiki's <tt>LocalSettings.php</tt> file. Only a server admin (like Joe) can modify it. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 09:42, 1 September 2019 (PDT)

:: Well... Joe please do that for me :-)
::: Still waiting for it [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 10:21, 4 September 2019 (PDT)
:::: I have this on my to-do list. I'll endeavor to get to it this weekend. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:09, 5 September 2019 (PDT)
:::: I've updated the logo! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:33, 5 September 2019 (PDT)
::::: Thanks [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 09:05, 6 September 2019 (PDT)

Sorry to waste your time again. I was trying to create a new template called Castdaten. I started with [[Tony Swartz]] Something went wrong. Now everytime I want to go to the english version of an Actor it redirects me to "Template:MONTHNAME" And I do not know what to do to show mw the month, or Nationality [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 06:13, 29 September 2019 (PDT)
: Hi Enabran, the issue is fixed, you had the EN interwiki link outside the <code><nowiki><noinclude></noinclude></nowiki></code>. brackets in two templates. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 06:50, 29 September 2019 (PDT)
:: Your're the best! Thank you for your quick fix [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 08:22, 29 September 2019 (PDT)

== French Battlestar Wiki ==

Hi Joe, Do you have any plan about the French Battlestar Wiki to "really" come back to life? If you want to, you can directly write to my personal email address, it didn't change. Thank you very much. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 12:21, 11 August 2019 (PDT)
: Yes, I do! I've just been traveling, so I haven't had the ability to carve time out for it. I'll reach out to you via email for further details, as I would need the database files and all that from your setup. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:21, 11 August 2019 (PDT)
:: It may be possible to have the original wiki's content back + what I've done if you have a backup made before October 31, 2013. It was just before the first French wiki crash (when all data but 15 pages were lost) and then find a way to give you the Mediawiki files and the LocalSettings.php file (+ logo and fonts). --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 05:31, 14 August 2019 (PDT)
::: Hi Joe, until you find a way and time to put back the French wiki on the main domain, could you please change the <tt>fr</tt> interwiki link on the English and German wiki to the following :
<pre>http://fr.battlestarwiki.ddns.net/wiki/$1</pre>
:::It will direct it to my personal server. I added the German link, and the English one is already active for a while now. Thank you very much! Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 13:25, 26 August 2019 (PDT)
::::Hi Joe, sorry to bother you about the previous demand, but I think it will give some time about the migration of the French Battlestar Wiki and make you doing it more comfortably. It should take you only a few minutes to do it. Thank you very much. My best regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 09:55, 8 September 2019 (PDT)
:::::Hi Joe, Hope you're well, I know you're very busy right now and I'm really, really sorry to bother you again. It's just to lighten your burden about the French wiki. It will allow me to make the interwiki links work between the English, German and French Battlestar Wikis so I can populate the links when the pages are created. You won't have to worry about the design and the MediaWiki update for the French one, and when (and only when) you are ready, we can prepare to transfer the wiki on the main domain. Thank you very much. My best regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 22:31, 26 September 2019 (PDT)
: No need to apologize! I've updated the interwiki link. Also, I've given you admin privileges to the English wiki to assist as needed, as a small token of appreciation for the work you've done to date (and beyond)! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:17, 28 September 2019 (PDT)
: Thanks a lot Joe. I have nine hours of time difference with you. Please don't forget to do the same for the German wiki (interwiki link). Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:56, 28 September 2019 (PDT)

== Battlestar Wiki - other Stuff ==
=== Character Data a.s.o ===
Would it be possible, to add a function, that lets the "Matrix" add another Series-icon to the top of the infobox, when the Actor played in more than one Series? For example [[Richard Hatch]]. Now he has the TOS icon, but he should have also the RDM-Icon. Same for Crewmembers, that worked in more than one Series. Maybe it is the "series 2" thing, but if yes -> it is broken. -- {{unsigned|Enabran}}

: I'll take a look and see what the issue is! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:24, 3 October 2019 (PDT)
:: Thank you and good luck ;-) [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 13:14, 4 October 2019 (PDT)
::: Actually, in looking at the code, it appears that it was coded to only show one emblem (defined by the "series" parameter) and not multiples (i.e. the "series2" parameter). So... the "series2" thing is more for the automatic categorization only, but I suppose that can be extended to add in multiple emblems, too. That just needs to be coded in.

::: In other words, it was never a feature to begin with. But it can be added in. I'll fiddle with it and maybe tighten the code while I'm at it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:42, 4 October 2019 (PDT)
::: I think I was able to accomplish what you're looking for. If that works for you, it can easily be deployed on DE. Check it out on the [[Richard Hatch]] article. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:31, 4 October 2019 (PDT)
:::: Not so easy for me - I made a mistake somewhere. Now the english Richard Hatch is redirecting to the template instead the german page. same goes for the german page [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 01:53, 5 October 2019 (PDT)
::::: Hi, it seems you fixed the template redirect issue (need to refresh the browser's buffer). I removed the blanks inside the German and English Series icon template to fix the position issues. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 05:17, 5 October 2019 (PDT)
:::::: "my" 1980 icon doesn't work. When you look at the german Lorne Greene Page, just the TOS icon is visible. And how can I add the english link to the template, without doing a mess? [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 10:29, 5 October 2019 (PDT)
::::::: Your "Serie2" field was wrong, in your template, the field is called "Serie 2" with a space. I fixed it inside [[:de:Lorne Greene|the article page]]. Regarding the interwiki inside a template, be sure to put the interwiki link inside the <tt><nowiki><noinclude>[[de:Pagename]]</noinclude></nowiki></tt> parser tag, not outside. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 11:09, 5 October 2019 (PDT)
:::::::: Thank you for fixing it. [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 11:27, 5 October 2019 (PDT)

:: One other thing to think about: There are some actors playing in more than 2 series (RDM, BAC and CAP). Would it be hard to do something like Series 3 and adding all 3 icons to the top? {{unsigned|Enabran}}
::: That shouldn't be difficult. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:52, 7 October 2019 (PDT)
:::: Done on the German template. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 04:28, 7 October 2019 (PDT)
:::: The English template is modified as well. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 04:35, 7 October 2019 (PDT)
::::: Thank you, LIMA! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:41, 7 October 2019 (PDT)
:::::: Thank you [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 11:34, 7 October 2019 (PDT)

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== Projects ==

Joe,
I think there should be a link to the projects category (located at Category:Project_Page) in the sidebar under projects. If possible, you could even make the projects heading itself a link. The projects are an important part of the wiki, and it should be easier to see all of them at once. Also, I recall there being a specific "dont bite the newbies page" or something similar, but I cannot find it. Am I imaging things? If there isn't, there should be. I'd be happy to write it and stick it under projects. --[[User:Kraetos|Kraetos]] 00:06, 8 February 2006 (EST)

:It's a Wikipedia policy. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers|Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers]]. We often defer to Wikipedia policies unless we have a well-articulated reason to disagree with them. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 00:26, 8 February 2006 (EST)

::Thanks Peter. I was lookin for that. --[[User:Kraetos|Kraetos]] 13:30, 8 February 2006 (EST)

: I don't see the purpose in bringin the article over in this Wiki... However, a link to it on an apporpriate page somewhere wouldn't harm anyone. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 11:00, 8 February 2006 (EST)

:Did you intend for the pages tagged with the Translation template to be included on the projects list? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:09, 8 February 2006 (EST)

::I think you are referring to {{tl|translation}}... In that case, this was unintentional and I have rectified it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 15:09, 8 February 2006 (EST)

:::Yep. That was it. I was going to throw in some fancy noinclude tags but you've already resolved it. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:56, 9 February 2006 (EST)

== Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe! Joe! JOE! Joejoejoejoejoejoejoejoe... ==

Ahem. Sorry 'bout that. I'd like to draw your eye to [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Requested Images#Methods to the Madness|an issue]] you should probably weigh in on. It's not ''that'' kind of issue, so don't get out the User Appriciation Bat just yet. Anyway, when you have a moment... --[[User:Day|Day]] 01:14, 8 February 2006 (EST)

== Hooray for Joe! ==

It's back! Maybe now is a good time to start fleshing out [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|this page]] a little bit more. I know some talk of t-shirts were mentioned at the frappr site. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:30, 2 March 2006 (CST)

:Well, it's MOSTLY BACK. I'm getting an error when I view the Recent Changes list. (I do have my recent changes set to group changes by article). Here is the error page that appears when I attempt to open Recent Changes--
::Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 235806 bytes) in home/admin/domains/battlestarwiki.org/public_html/en/includes/ChangesList.php on line 250
:Haven't checked in other locations or saw other errors. I reset my Recent Changes preferences. Looks like the "Enhanced Recent Changes" feature is bugged. Turned it off; all was well. Back on, and page fall down and go boom. I'll keep it off for now. Using Firefox 1.5.1 on Mac OS X; no problems since before site downtime. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:53, 2 March 2006 (CST)
Hey Joe, any idea why the thumbnails on new pics aren't working? --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 22:05, 2 March 2006 (CST)
: That should be fixed now. Try it out. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:08, 2 March 2006 (CST)
::Cool, thanks. The day the Wiki went down was the day I took about a dozen screen shots identifying several new Vipers, some mistakes, the Cylon Virus breaching Gaeta's firewalls, and a really good close-up of the Lt. Insignia with the flush chevron edges that definately proves it's existence. --[[User:Talos|Talos]]
:::The pics for Vipers 2220, 4267, and 7961 aren't working still. Also, the last two pages aren't listed correctly, they're under the "2" heading instead of the proper 4 and 7. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 22:36, 2 March 2006 (CST)
::::Those three pages load fine on my end. If you visited those articles prior to my fix, which happened an hour or so ago, then you may need to do a hard refresh of the page. Also, listing the Vipers under the proper numbers should be as easy as correcting the sort key in the <nowiki>[[Category: Vipers]]</nowiki> syntax. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:46, 2 March 2006 (CST)

== Main Page/Spoilers is down ==

It says: The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found, named "Main Page/Spoilers". [[User:Dan Korn|Dan Korn]] 01:35, 3 March 2006 (CST)
: It's up. You may have to do a hard refresh of the page though, just in case your browser cached it incorrectly. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 07:33, 3 March 2006 (CST)

== Good host ==

I saw about your hosting problems... 1&1 is a good host, I've been using them for a while. Their monthly transfer rates start at 250GB per month for
3 dollars. (although that plan is lacking in a few good features... ) Anyhow, I'm not meaning to spam or anything... I just really like my server. --[[User:Aggie|Aggie]]
: Originally we had 1&1 -- however, as they limited the size of their MySQL databases to 100 MB, we were forced to move. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 13:04, 5 March 2006 (CST)

''For discussions previously on [[User talk: Joe.Beaudoin]], please [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Archive|click here]].''
:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Beaudoin_Jr.&oldid=36068 March 6, 2006]

== Design Improvements ==

Just a few minor design improvements.
*1. On the image pages the mime/type text is white font on white background. The text of this or background box colour should be changed in the css to be black. http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4151/bsgdesignimprovements11xv.png
*2. The tiny little logon man perhaps changed to something more relevant, bgs logo or viper insignia http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2377/bsgdesignimprovements27up.png
*3. Redirect image should be inverted, this is how it look right now http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1546/bsgdesignimprovements30lv.png
* [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 08:13, 29 March 2006 (CST)

: When considering design changes, please keep in mind that not everyone reads the site using the default theme. I, for one, find the black background with bright text extraordinarily hard -- downright painful -- on the eyes, particularly in contrast with just about every other program and web site I use. I'm using the straight Monobook theme in my preferences. As a result, there are already some boxes that are all but unreadable unless I highlight the text in them.
: (Ironically, I used to feel just the opposite, but the predominance of white-background websites and GUIs has shifted my preferences. It's easier to go with the flow than to find ways to change every single GUI system I use). --[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 10:20, 29 March 2006 (CST)
::Would it help on the boxes if we specified the white foreground? Granted, this would go against the rest of the text on the page, but I'd think that it'd make it look closer to how it is intended. However, you still have the blue links (unless that can be specified as well). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:12, 29 March 2006 (CST)
:::Might help. It seems to me that there ought to be some way to make sure that template boxes &c integrate with the theme (using style-sheet names for things, &c), but I haven't messed enough with Mediawiki themes to know exactly how you'd do it portably.--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 16:16, 29 March 2006 (CST)
::::You're absolutely right. That would be the correct way to do it. I too, however, lack that [[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_styles|knowledge]], and so I end up reaching for the quick/easy/ugly hack. Day has mentioned looking into such things in the past. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:25, 29 March 2006 (CST)
:::::I'm pretty good with CSS. I'll look into this, but I don't want to commit to a project I won't have time to see through properly. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:52, 29 March 2006 (CST)

:::::: I would feel comfortable commiting to this project, time-wise. I feel confident enough in my CSS skills that I either know or know how to find out anything that would be needed to be done... I just need to remember to email Joe about which files do what and that kind of thing. Then... Do we put the CSS labels in spans and divs in the Wikicode, then? Or somehow mesh it into the XHTML generated by MediaWiki? --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 01:34, 30 March 2006 (CST)

::::::: I'm not too pro in the likes of CSS but perhaps in the meantime something like the redirect image could be made as a red arrow with a transparent png background then it would ok on both a white and a black background? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:38, 30 March 2006 (CST)

== Good host ==

I saw about your hosting problems... 1&1 is a good host, I've been using them for a while. Their monthly transfer rates start at 250GB per month for
3 dollars. (although that plan is lacking in a few good features... ) Anyhow, I'm not meaning to spam or anything... I just really like my server. --[[User:Aggie|Aggie]]
: Originally we had 1&1 -- however, as they limited the size of their MySQL databases to 100 MB, we were forced to move. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 13:04, 5 March 2006 (CST)

== Memorabillia ==

Replaced Memorabilia category with Merchandise, using the method you explained. Category:Memorabilia can be deleted. --[[User:Undc23|Undc23]] 05:18, 6 March 2006 (CST)

== Error Message ==

''Copied from [[User talk:Steelviper]] by [[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:07, 9 March 2006 (CST)'' 
I got this error message when saving the miniseries page yesterday, what does it mean?

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 37704 bytes) in /home/admin/domains/battlestarwiki.org/public_html/en/languages/LanguageUtf8.php on line 92 --Grafix

: Is it still occuring or is it a one time occurance? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 20:49, 9 March 2006 (CST)

: This only happened once when I was saving the miniseries page. It could be because this page is too long. I think it could do with splitting up into 2 pages: one for the story and the other for comments. It is also missing a summary. I would be happy to do the split but I would need a summary from somewhere. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 03:08, 10 March 2006 (CST)

::I was able to reproduce this error today. I ran into it on the Recent Changes trying to load all 500 at once. (I wanted to go back and block all the spammer accounts indefinitely). That would point towards a large page issue (as the 250 worked fine). Also, on the Mini-series article... Spencerian had discussed chopping it up earlier, but has never gotten a chance to yet. You might start a discussion on the talk page of that article to discuss how to approach such an undertaking. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:58, 10 March 2006 (CST)

::: [http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=2&q=http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Web_Languages/PHP/Q_21066345.html&e=9797A link to solve all your problems...] :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 17:50, 19 March 2006 (CST)

::::I cannot view the solutions page as I am not a member of experts-exchange.com. Unless you can copy and paste the pertinent info then the link, sadly, is not all that useful. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:09, 19 March 2006 (CST)
::::: if you have access to your php.ini file incrase the value in this line

memory_limit = 8M ; Maximum amount of memory a script may consume (8MB) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:19, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::::Thanks Shane. Fixed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:29, 19 March 2006 (CST)

== Spam Alert ==

I've noted a recent surge in spamming [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard#Spam Alert|here]]. As cool as it was to get my first blocks notched on my admin belt, it is starting to look like an ip range block might be needed (if in fact they are coming from a particular band of addresses). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:29, 9 March 2006 (CST)

Could be please ban Scofco. Everytime I reverse his spam he puts it back. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 05:14, 10 March 2006 (CST)
:Sorry. I was sleeping on the job. He's gone for a week (for now) and he's going on "the list". Thanks for the heads up.--[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 06:09, 10 March 2006 (CST)

== Japanese ==

I wanted to ask you about something I noticed. The people that created the episode guides in other languages had not created their own Episode List in a seperate language. I saw that you wanted to eventually create seperate wikis in different languages so I was under the impression we should create the articles as seperate as possible. Should I be creating a list for the episode guides or should I keep them as connected to the main wiki as possible? --Zareck Rocks 18:15, 10 March 2006 (CST)
: When translating the articles, we should try to avoid linking to articles on the "English" Battlestar Wiki. This helps makes the process of moving articles to the separate wiki easier, which is something we are all for. :-) Any other questions? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:21, 10 March 2006 (CST)
::I'm sure there will be more in the future, but none right now. Thanks! --Zareck Rocks 18:30, 10 March 2006 (CST)
:::No, thank ''you''. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:36, 10 March 2006 (CST)

== Request for Administratorship ==

Joe, I need your help setting up [[Battlestar Wiki:Requests for adminship/The Merovingian]]; I laid the groundwork but I need proper formating and a vote or two (in any category) to start it off; we use these so rarely I'm not sure how to properly set this up. Then I'm going to fill in all of the questionaires. Thanks,--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 15:18, 11 March 2006 (CST)

== Portal's ==

Hey Joe!

I done some research into the "Portal" problem. It seems there is a file, that has this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$wgExtraNamespaces where you need to add Portal. It's the same place you did "Battlestar_Wiki". Then you need to run a file under maintenance/namespaceDupes.php to make sure there are no dupes of any type. Since there is possailbly only a few, but do not have any contact it would be ok to run. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 11:41, 15 March 2006 (CST)
:The IRC Channel for the Wikimeta software wasn't that helpful so that's is much as I can give ya. They said to read the manual, but I am lost in looking for it. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 15:05, 15 March 2006 (CST)
: I created a namespace for the portal yesterday. So technically the portal feature is up -- I just am not certain about changing the tab name without changing the name of the article tabs as well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 06:42, 16 March 2006 (CST)
:: I been working with [[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] trying to figure out the latest problem with portal sub-templates to auto-form and carry over the the design. From what I been talking with the MediaWiki group, the only way for the Portal's to work right is get them to say Portal" where article is. Now we could upgrade to 1.5.7 (fixes some secuirty areas) and then go from there. Now this page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces gives me some new info which I never found before. The people in the IRC channel are a real pain. This may or may not fix the sub-portal template problem that we are having. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 12:44, 16 March 2006 (CST)
::: The problem is they are not becoming "Sub-Pages". When you create something like <nowiki>{{/box-header}}</nowiki> which is why the portal headers arn't working, is that it never became a sub-page. It became it's own page that is not connected to Portal:Characters but is rather Portal:Characters/box-header. Some new revelent information. If you get a chance, I can show you the difference so you can ask the right questions now on the Wiki mailing list. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:31, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:::: We think we may have nailed down the problem. '''''For Wikipedia, the User, Talk, and Wikipedia namespaces have subpages turned on; the main (article) namespace does not have this feature turned on'''''. From Matt: looks like Joe may just have to turn on subpages for the Portal namespace. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:25, 19 March 2006 (CST)
::::: We are getting closer. I had someone from outside of this wiki take a look. He said that the wiki is blocking certain types of HTML code. I have no idea where the "filters" would be, but if you have any filters for HTML, if you remove them we might be golden. Also, we get this alot: <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{editpage|/}}}|action=edit}} edit]</nowiki> during our travels. Somehow fullurl is built into the wiki code on the php side and is not on the template side. So if that can be enabled also that would be perfect. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:07, 20 March 2006 (CST)
::::::Actually, just FYI, a lot of the issues we're coming up with are because Wikipedia is using the 1.6 betas. We're using the 1.5 stable versions, and there are differences. Other than that, I'm working out the other problems. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:32, 20 March 2006 (CST)

== Signature Link ==

Hey Joe, I was noticing how my signature doesn't link to my user page. I spoke to another wikipedian about this and they didn't know why my sig didn't work either. I normally use the signature button but that doesn't link to my page. Do you have any ideas how I can get around this? --Zareck Rocks 17:21, 15 March 2006 (CST)
: Check your preferences page to see whether or not the "raw signature" checkbox is checked off. If so, uncheck it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 06:44, 16 March 2006 (CST)

== Bots ==

Do we have bot ability? Because there are some Wikipedia bots that we could use over here. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 19:59, 16 March 2006 (CST)
: I need to assing bot permissions to users, but I should be able to get bots going. Which ones were you looking into implementing here? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:09, 18 March 2006 (CST)
:: Just wondering if they were possaible. I'll get a list complied. (New Project! heh) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:23, 18 March 2006 (CST)
:::.....The entire "moral" behind ''Battlestar Galactica'' is that we '''should not hand over power to BOTS!''' :) --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:22, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:::: Hah. yeah. Cylons.. Machines. Yeah. heh. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 00:34, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:::::As long as the bots weren't programmed by Gaius Baltar, I don't see any problem. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 11:49, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:I posted up something in [[Battlestar_Wiki:Bots]]. I am currenly going over a bot's code to make sure all the changed that would be needed are done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 16:19, 22 March 2006 (CST)
::Make "Task Bot" with the bot flag. :) Getting it all setup with the cookies it needs on my end. Also sent you an e-mail on setup procedures. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:12, 22 March 2006 (CST)

== [[Template:Characters]] ==

I'd like you to take a look at how I've refactored it. I hope you agree that it can peacefully coexist with the portal now that it's taken a minimalist turn. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 03:18, 17 March 2006 (CST)

== RFA ==

The election has ended. What is the result? --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 13:28, 19 March 2006 (CST)
: I need to review the issues surrounding the RfA before I make any final decisions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 16:05, 19 March 2006 (CST)

::What? When will you make your decision? Please advise. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 21:31, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::You'll know when I do. Worry not. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:38, 19 March 2006 (CST)

::::Has to be before Friday. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 21:45, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::::Why? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:46, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::::: If it's not, the Cylons will gain the backdoor codes to the new nav computer stuff and wipe out the entire navy easily, then nuke us into near-oblivion. *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 21:51, 19 March 2006 (CST)

::::::A) An hold with no time limit could be dragged out indefinately, and would set a bad precedent, B) (I'm far more concerned about this:) I'm going to I-CON, Richarch Hatch will be there and there will be BSG discussion seminars, and it would be going with my pants down if adminship were decided days after the event. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 21:52, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::::::That makes no sense. How will being an admin or not have any material impact on your comments to Mr. Hatch? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:54, 19 March 2006 (CST)
::::::::It doesn't, and in fact I plan on remaining silent. There's ''other'' BSG stuff going on, but I digress. Actually, the bigger problem now that I think about it is "this sets bad precedent". --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 21:56, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:::::::::It would be a worse precedent for Joe to act rashly. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:02, 19 March 2006 (CST)
: Your second RfA didn't succeed this time. (4 for, 2 opposed; 67% were for your adminship -- however, according to [[BW:RFA]] the consensus should be 75%-80% or higher for a successful promotion.) I would recommend waiting a few months or so before proceeding again. Now, as for the issue I debated... I think that recuriting non-contributors to vote wasn't a great idea. Mainly for the fact that the voters didn't, in my mind, understand ''what'' adminship is. Apparently, there was the overall consensus amongst these voters that administrators were top-notch contributors to the Wiki and that people are entitled to adminship. This is not adminship. Adminship isn't for everyone -- and everyone doesn't need admin tools. If they did, then these administrator folks wouldn't need to exist. At all. We would just call them users with dead man switches. :-)
: Now, if I may kindly suggest a few things, which will only help you on your course to your (eventual) succession to administrator:
:# I would recommend keeping an archive of ''all'' your discussions on your talk page. You may link to the histories or create subpages on your user page to archive discussions.
:# Realize that, as an admin, your actions will be consistently scrutinized. Even more so than now.
:# The differences between admins and non-admins: the ability to delete pages, ban people, and protect pages. That's ''really'' it. If there are people who believe I am stating this fact lightly, then I recommend talking to another admin -- even [[User:Day|(Super) Mop Boy]] can tell you that there really isn't anything different. (Other than the two additional tabs on the top. And that "ban" button.)
:Obviously, if you have any questions, I will be glad to answer them. Now I'll be seeing the second new episode of ''The Sopranos''. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:28, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:A)I would like to argue against the standard of 80% maximum, it is restrictively high. Non-editors is a non-issue; I agree with you there. No, I think I'll commence my next RfA as soon as you close down my current one. Now I'm going to be a little busy updating the site back up to standards, I might not be able to chat for a while on the subject.
:B)If I were made Administrator, I would be afraid of losing such a title, and thus would have quite obvious reasons for restraining myself.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 22:37, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:: Merv... an RFA-spam will get old very quickly, and does not show the perspective and calmness required, in my mind, of an admin. Also, one should not say, "If made admin X." One should just show X regardless of adminship. Whether it's restraint, or patience or maturity or... not editing Roslin to Roslyn (I picked a dumb example on purpose). --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 22:43, 19 March 2006 (CST)

::I disagree that 75-80% is a restrictvely high standard. Every adminstrator to date has been elected with unanimous approval. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:45, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::We are in agreement. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 23:29, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::: I do not think you are. Peter is saying that the 75-80% margin is good. Unless I misread you, Merv, you're saying it's too high. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 00:46, 20 March 2006 (CST)
:::::Er, I meant I was agreeing with ''you''. Sorry, my ''Sandman''-esque syntax does tend to seep in. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 00:53, 20 March 2006 (CST)

:::::: Ah. Hazard of using Wiki Talk pages for communication. Not exactly built with all the handy features of phpBB or whatever. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 20:05, 20 March 2006 (CST)

: Merv, a few points:
:# As pointed out by the others, 75%-80% is not a restrictively high standard. A high standard that is severely restrictive is 95%. This percentage is perfect. In fact, I wasn't the one who came up with it -- it comes straight from Wikipedia. And it works, so I'm not going to fix something that is not broken.
:# May I recommend, in the strongest possible terms, that you not proceed to self-nominate yourself again immediately after this RfA is officially closed. (Which I just recently did and the RfA is now archived.) Could you technically do it? Yes. However, I would be more concerned with how such an action might be perceived by those who would vote.
:# Also, there isn't a rush to recruit new administrators. Back when I first started the RfA importing process, I did it out of necessity, as I could not do everything at that time. As far as I'm concerned, we have all the admins we need right now -- where we need the admins is for the non-English BSG Wiki's, so they can determine the tempo and do the mop boy (or girl) thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:22, 20 March 2006 (CST)

== Talk to RDM/Universal? ==

Have you ever considered contacting Ron Moore somehow and offering the wiki as a resource for him and his writers? I think it would be a great idea—have the obsessive fans already take care of the continuity checking and documenting everything that happens in every episode, so I imagine it would be a great resource for the writers to quickly look stuff up and keep track of continuity issues. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 16:23, 20 March 2006 (CST)
:From my expereince, in Star Trek Community, huge companies don't like to have their staff use nothing but there sources, because it's their source of advertizing. But then again, this is NBC and not Paramount. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 17:57, 20 March 2006 (CST)
::Well, why can't we become official then? It would solve Joe's hosting problems, and Ron Moore is already into blogging and podcasting, so a wiki can't be that far off :) [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 18:01, 20 March 2006 (CST)
:::If we were offical, that would be nice. We would see a large influx of users if people knew [[Ronald D. Moore|Moore]] contribuated to this site and solved a few things that he should spoil us with, but then again it would leave nothing for the offical site. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 18:03, 20 March 2006 (CST)

:::Officialdom would be a terrible, awful, horrible, no-good, very, very bad idea. Officialdom basically means NBC Universal would control the site and its content, including any critical content. There's no reason to believe we would retain any editorial independence. This site's unofficial status is just fine. Really.--[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 17:53, 21 March 2006 (CST)

::::So we become the official site :) [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 18:05, 20 March 2006 (CST)
:::::I just want to note that even more so than Mr. Swallow's contributions, RDM contributing to the wiki would present an enormous fact checking, verification and citation problem. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:17, 20 March 2006 (CST)

:::::: He needn't contribute. I'm sure he has better things to do with his free time. I mean--BSG is his ''job''. I know very few people who have their job as a hobby as well. However, if he wanted to, we could just cite his username as a source. *wink* I actually don't know how I feel about "selling out" to Universal/RDM/SciFi. Not that I have an inherant distaste for it, but I'd be quite wary of anything that might imply any kind of over-sight by non-contributers/people who don't understand how all this Wiki business works. --[[User:Day|Day]] ([[User talk:Day|talk]]) 20:03, 20 March 2006 (CST)

: I sincerely doubt that we would become "official". While it would be nice, being "official" is the furthest thing from my mind. Also, being unofficial does have its advantages -- meaning that we can be a critical as we need to be and we are not tied down by bureaucratic B.S. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:13, 20 March 2006 (CST)

::OK, but official status aside, I do think we should let Ron Moore know that we exist. All I'm really asking is that we be an unofficial resource for the writers (if we aren't already!). [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 13:06, 21 March 2006 (CST)

::What makes anyone here think that RDM doesn't know of our existence? Just curious. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 13:08, 21 March 2006 (CST)

:::I get the sense from his podcasts that they don't have any convenient resource to keep track of continuity. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 16:18, 21 March 2006 (CST)

:::: They may not feel they need any. RDM has said as much as that he's trying to "make up" for some of the "mistakes" of Trek, but he may not consider Trek's failure to be slavishly continuous a "mistake". If he really did, then he would have/could have gone the route JMS went with ''Babylon 5'', with all the major and many of the minor arcs plotted out before the first frame was shot. He didn't do that. I think he's gone so far as to say he doesn't even know for certain yet if ''Galactica'' will ever find Earth, let alone what state Earth might be in if it did.

:::: In the end, strict continuity is of interest mainly to a relatively small number of die-hard fans. It's not of interest to the general viewing public, who mostly just want to be entertained. It's not necessarily of interest to the writers, to whom strict continuity is often a straitjacket.

:::: I'm not saying that RDM wouldn't appreciate what we do here. I'm just saying that if he really thought such a resource was necessary for the writing team, he knows more than enough fannish geeks who could have created it for him by now :-) --[[User:UncleMikey|Uncle Mikey]] 17:44, 21 March 2006 (CST)

A) It sounds fanboyish to call in, displaying our wonderful site to their corporation

B) I already mention ''BattlestarWiki'' numerous times in the official RDM Blog thread on the official site

C) A week ago, I personally brought ''BattlestarWiki'' to the attention of Terry Dresbach, Ron Moore's wife, in the official [http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=BattlestarGalactica&Number=1689336&Searchpage=1&Main=1681899&Words=battlestarwiki&topic=&Search=true#Post1689336 Talk to Mrs.Ron thread] on the messageboards. She seemed quite enthused. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 19:42, 21 March 2006 (CST)

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== Color scheme ==

Joe,

First of all, kudos on starting the wiki! This will be an excellent resource and community, and I'm ecstatic to see it catch on so quickly.
The color scheme, while definitely striking, can be a little hard on the eyes for some people, myself included. Changing the skin under preferences helps with the white-on-black text, but all the boilerplate tables retain their FG and BG colors (I guess they're controlled by the individual templates, not by CSS). Is there any way around this problem? I don't know enough about Wiki protocol to determine whether templates can also be driven by CSS. If not, perhaps a discussion should be started about modifying the color palette altogether. I personally would love to see an option for a more Colonial-Fleet-themed palette, with shades of gunmetal gray.

Thanks! -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 17:43, 18 January 2006 (EST)

: I bet they can be CSS-ified. Rather than giving them colors in the template directly, give them classes or ids and let the CSS file sort out what colors those mean. Now, I'm not ''certain'' that would work, since I've never worked with the MediaWIki software, but I get the impression that it's fairly robust with regard to things like this. --[[User:Day|Day]] 18:02, 18 January 2006 (EST)

:: I can edit the templates to use CSS classes, and edit the stylesheet appropriately. If anyone can come up with alternate color schemes, please bring them to my attention and I'll see what I can whip up. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:55, 18 January 2006 (EST)

::: Awesome! Thanks, Joe. I can start developing the gray idea... as soon as I relearn CSS. Boy, it's been awhile. -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 00:57, 19 January 2006 (EST)

:::: I may be wrong, but the way I read that, Joe wants colors (like #777777 for a grey, though a bland one) from us (though I like and use the black and red scheme). I think he can handle the CSSing. I could be misunderstanding him, though. If you want someone to do some grunt-work CSSing, Joe, lemme know. I know a thing or two about it. --[[User:Day|Day]] 05:37, 19 January 2006 (EST)

== Name Change ==

Joe, is it possible for you to change my username? Thanks --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 13:32, 28 January 2006 (EST)
: Yes, it should be a relatively painless manner. What do you wish your user name changed to? -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:39, 28 January 2006 (EST)

:: "Kraetos" would be great. Thanks! --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 23:24, 28 January 2006 (EST)

::I would also like my name changed (as I mentioned on my talk page), to "The Merovingian" ("the" is required). If you can't have two words, use "The_Merovingian". --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:42, 28 January 2006 (EST)

== CSS ==

[[User:Steelviper|SV]] and I got to talking about [[User talk:Steelviper/CommunityPortal#COlor Scheme|CSSing as it applies to skins here]]. I was wondering, since I know a thing or two (maybe three, but no more) about CSS, how you felt about handing out the .css files to be modified so we could use classes and ids rather than explicit colors for the various templates and boxes we've got around. If you'd rather do this yourself, that's fine, too. I just thought I'd offer/ask. --[[User:Day|Day]] 15:38, 1 February 2006 (EST)
: I'd have no problem in giving out the CSS sheets. Just [mailto:joebeaudoin@joebeaudoin.net mail me] with the addresses you want the CSS files sent to and I'll send them out. :-) -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:15, 1 February 2006 (EST)

==Cite extensions==

Joe, I'm not sure if you've seen the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php cite extension], but this would make it much easier to document our sources. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 00:54, 2 February 2006 (EST)
: I've been moseying around the extensions on the MediaWiki & Meta sites and happened upon this one as well; I even tried it on a test wiki I loaded on the server a few days ago. Unfortunately, it only works on the current unstable version of 1.6. (We use the 1.5 series, and I am not comfortable with loading anything that is in alpha stages at this time.) The extension does look cool, however, and would make our lives a lot easier, and I hope that once 1.6 hits stable we can go ahead an implement it on this wiki. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:15, 2 February 2006 (EST)

::Are you certain? en.wikipedia.org seems to have the extension enabled. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 10:29, 2 February 2006 (EST)

:::Wikipedia is running 1.6alpha of Mediawiki, while we're on 1.5.5 over here. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:35, 2 February 2006 (EST)

:::All Wikimedia projects tend to run the experimental versions of the MediaWiki software. I really don't see the logic of it, but... -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 11:30, 2 February 2006 (EST)

::::That's a neat feature. I'm patient enough to wait for someone else to get the bugs out, though. It will be needed here as the new show becomes not-so-new and mistakes crop up. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 01:26, 3 February 2006 (EST)

== Smaller Image ==

Joe, I've uploaded a smaller version of he BSG wiki image, so you can use it on the project pages. Most web browsers horribly pixelate images when scaled (see a project page for an example), using this smaller version will prevent that. The file is located at Image:BSG-WIKI-SM.png. [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:BSG-WIKI_SM.png] --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 18:27, 4 February 2006 (EST)

==image==
: ''Moved from [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe's user page]] by [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] on 09:28, 7 February 2006 (EST).''

I get some of my images from http://galactica.emedian.net/. --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 08:24, 7 February 2006 (EST)

== Name Change (Part deux) ==

Joe, I hate to be a bother, but I am politely reminding you of my [[User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin#Name_Change|request]] for a name change. If there is a problem, could you let me know? Thanks! --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 22:12, 7 February 2006 (EST)

== Slander ==

Joe, I tried to use the "e-mail this user" in the toolbox but it said I need to be logged in with a valid e-mail address in my preferences, which I do so I don't know why I couldn't email you. So I'll have to ask you this here. Feel free to delete this after you read it.

I would hope that the Battlestar Wiki strives to be free of slander so I am requesting you remove the parts of Merv's posting in this thread:

http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sources_talk:Correspondence_with_Jim_Iaccino

Where he claims that I called Jim's workplace ( I did not and he admits he was "voicing it as a possibility as I have my suspicions. It's actually probably nothing.")

Where he claims I PM'd him an abusive message (I have never PM'd him.)

Where he claims I expressed a desire to "anally rape" him (I certainly have never expressed such a desire.)

Where he claims I sent YOU a threatening e-mail (I'm sure you realise this is false.)

These claims are clearly slander and have no place on your website. The fact that he made up a fictitious PM ((the PM "yeah I am Ribzy you frakhead and I'm going to crucify you!", was a dead giveaway...) Should tell you the depths he will sink to support his slander.

Thank you, take care and control.

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== An old question about hits counter from Enabran ==

Hi Joe, [[user:Enabran|Enabran]] asked some time ago if it is possible to retrieve the hits counter. I tried to install a stable version of [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HitCounters Extension:HitCounters] on the [[:fr:|French wiki]]. It seems to work. You'll need to run an <tt>maintenance/update.php</tt> after installing the extension with the following in the <tt>LocalSettings.php</tt> file

wfLoadExtension( 'HitCounters' );

It should keep the old values. As you wish, but I think there will be a happy, happy editor ;-) Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 13:57, 3 June 2020 (PDT)

: I will look into it! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:20, 4 June 2020 (PDT)

:: I can see the hit counter back on the french wiki - can someone please add it to the german wiki? [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 14:23, 14 November 2020 (PST)

:: Installed. Unfortunately, it didn't retain the old numbers, and there was no way to recover those. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:21, 2 January 2021 (PST)

::: oh, thank you! Any number is better than no number ;-) [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 00:51, 3 January 2021 (PST)
:::: There is one way: Hit the refresh button x times to gain x counters :-D [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 01:00, 3 January 2021 (PST)
::::: Or by incrementing the number in <tt>page_counter.sql</tt> table in the DB directly -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 20:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::: Hit counters are, in general, worthless data point generators anyway as they cannot be individually identified and categorized. They're very, well, "Web 1.0" and beyond obsolete. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

== TOS/G80 unproduced scripts ==

Greetings fellow Colonial!

I'm interested in assisting in regards to the summary pages of unproduced scripts of the 1978 series and its follow-up in 1980, but there are a few problems in this regard. First, it appears the wiki hasn't been updated in quite some time regarding these scripts (so I'm unsure if this is an active project or not). Second, the link to the Battlestar Pegasus page is dead. I have a few scripts printed out from the '78 series a few years ago, but I'd need access to the other scripts (especially The Beta Pirates, which I've wanted to read for many yahrens). Is this wiki still active, and can I assist? {{unsigned|Ninth Lord of Kobol}}

: Hello! Yes, the wiki is still somewhat active. I mostly maintain the English one at this point, with assistance of two other admins: [[User:Enabran]] of the [[:de:|German language Wiki]] and [[User:LIMAFOX76]] of the [[:fr:|French language Wiki]].

: As to the scripts, I have digitized PDF copies of the ones I've collected over the yahrens. I just need to re-upload them again (I'll upload them to the Wiki directly and update the links to the specific episodes). I'll start with "[[The Beta Pirates]]" and go from there. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

== Battlestar Wiki's new skin ==

Hi Joe, I hope you're well. I discovered the new skin you implanted for BW. Is that normal if everything is still in a white background even if you modified the css page to adapt? Thanks for your answer. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 06:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

: Howdy! Things are OK -- I hope things are good for you! For the background, it is adaptable, and there are three options if you click on the wheel/gear icon on the upper menu bar: Auto, Light and Dark. You might be on "light" or "auto," so if you click on Dark you should get the "darker" red theme.

: I'm trying to figure out what to do for the "light" theme (so I've left it alone for now), and might try something that invokes the cream/light brown paperwork from the series.

: I'm tweaking the theme as I go as well, so if you have any thoughts or suggestions, let me know. Cheers! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 23:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
:: Things are good for me as well, thanks! Regarding the skin, I chose the Dark theme, yet it is still white. Did I miss something in my parameters??
:: Small update, it seems that the dark and light themes are linked to the browser main color theme. I managed to change it in Edge and Firefox but I had to purge the cache. If I switch the browsers' theme back to light, it comes back to the light mode. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 20:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

::: I loved the old cream-coloured theme developed by Paul Gu. I don't think that theme would work in the current versions of Media Wiki, though. But if you have the CSS of that light theme, maybe we can use the same colours in the current Citizen based theme? -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 20:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
: For the "light" version, I was aiming towards the cream color, to mimic the paperwork in the series. We had something like that for the "Case Orange" update blog back in the day. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 03:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

== SSL certificates ==

Hi Joe, Hope you're fine. There is an issue with the SSL certificates on all Battlestar wikis and Buck Wiki. It says that they are not valid anymore and block the page's loading. Is it possible to update the certificates so no warning message appears ? Thank you very much. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 10:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

: This is remedied now. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:58, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Joe, The SSL certificates have expired again, preventing images from loading on all pages. Sorry to bring bad news as a greeting! I really love this site, so, thank you for creating and maintaining it. I hope you are doing well! --[[User:Allatariel|Allatariel]] ([[User talk:Allatariel|talk]]) 15:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
: Greetings! They've just been renewed, and I'm working on some server updates to boot. Hope you are doing well too, and thank you for your support! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

:: FYI. The mobile version is showing some insecure content warnings. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 20:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

::: Interesting. Anything specific so I can try to replicate to remedy? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 03:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

== Images ==

I can't see any images on the website.

: This is remedied now. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:57, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

== Caprica fonts on German site ==

Hi Joe, I hope you're fine. Is it possible please to add the two "Caprica" fonts on the German wiki root directory? It is already configured to have them, so it will appears as soon you import them. Thanks a lot! Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 20:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
: Will do! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 02:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

== Old WikiFrakr content and other language wikis ==

WiiFrakr had some fantastic and hilarious content back in the day. Sadly this was lost in time. Is there a way to restore those pages back if a backup is available? Maybe instead of a separate sub-wiki, those pages can live under a namespace on the English Wiki.
Similarly, the other language wikis which existed are lost. Is it possible to restore them too? -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 20:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
: I believe a backup is available, but I haven't gotten to it, as I haven't prioritized it. As to the other language wikis, I don't believe there was much in the way of content, beyond the German and French versions that were restored. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 03:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

== New server ==

Hi Joe, I hope you're fine. Just to tell you that managed to upgrade my personal server to a stronger UC (Dell Precision Tower 7910 with 2 Xeon CPUs). The server is now running under Ubuntu. Cheers! -- [[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 19:27, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

:Awesome! I'm doing well, and I hope that you are doing well, too! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 23:50, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

== PawPatroler ==

Hi. I saw you posted on his talk page last month and I just wanted to tell you he has been permabanned from dozens of wikis for disruptive editing and emailing users about wiki bans. [https://nookipedia.com/wiki/User%20talk:PawPatroler More information can be found in one wiki he was permabanned from]. I’d just banhammer him. [[Special:Contributions/70.54.235.122|70.54.235.122]] 17:38, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

:Appreciate your reaching out to me on this. Along with fellow admins from other language versions, we've found much the same regarding bans elsewhere. That said, we'll refrain from the "banhammer" as there have no disruptive edits here as of yet, beyond the initial message. [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:44, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

== Quorum images and other information. ==

Hi,

Just added images from "[[Fragged]]" concerning Quorum delegates, at least the ones that correspond to those from "[[Colonial Day]]". And expanded on [[Oswyn Eriku]]'s page, something I picked up concerning Unnamed Delegate #3 and also something to possibly update the [[List of pilots]] page. - [[User:CoreyDanian|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] ([[User talk:CoreyDanian|talk]]) 07:47, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

:Awesome Corey! I expect there to be discontinuities as production didn't keep tabs on these types of things, particularly as the show went on. We should note any contradictions, particularly as background or bit actors tend to play different characters throughout the run of the show. (Not to mention the same people tend to be reused throughout the prequels.) [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:03, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

User:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Template:Spoiler image

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User:Joe Beaudoin Jr./Scratch pad

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Hack for Google Code, in SpecialSearch.php:

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== To Do ==

* [[Troy Rudolph]] (b.g. performer)

=== From "[[Bastille Day]]" ===

*[[Lou Bollo]] as Stunt Guard #2<ref name="sheet"/>
*[[Duane Dickinson]] as Stunt Guard #3<ref name="sheet"/>
*[[Tony Morelli]] as Stunt Con #1<ref name="sheet"/>
*[[Ernest Jackson]] as Stunt Con #2<ref name="sheet"/>
*[[Gaston Howard]] as Stunt Con #3<ref name="sheet"/>
*[[Scott Atea]] as Stunt Con #4<ref name="sheet"/>
*[[Gerald Paets]] as Stunt Con #7<ref name="sheet"/>
*[[Dave Hospes]] as [[Lee Adama]] (stunt)<ref name="sheet"/>

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#REDIRECT [[Penis lantern]]

User:Joe Beaudoin Jr./List of crew (TOS)

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An "in progress" list of crew who worked on the [[Original Series]].

== [[Experiment in Terra (TV movie)]] ==

* Film Editors
** [[Gene Palmer]], A.C.E.
** [[Frederic L. Knudtson]]
** [[John Elias]]
** [[Robert L. Kimble]], A.C.E.
** [[Leon Ortiz-Gil]]
** [[Larry Strong]]
* Art Directors
** [[Paul Peters]]
** [[James J. Murakami]]
** [[Sherman Loudermilk]]
** [[John E. Chilberg II]]
* Director of Photography
** [[Ben Colman]], A.S.C.
* Executive Producer
** [[Glen A. Larson]]
* Co-Producers
** [[Gary B. Winter]]
** [[Ben Kadish]]
* Supervising Producers
** [[Donald Bellisario]]
** [[Leslie Stevens]]
* Producers
** [[David J. O'Connell]]
** [[Frank Lupo]]
** [[John Dykstra]]
* Written by
** [[Glen A. Larson]]
* Directors
** [[Rod Holcomb]]
** [[Ron Satlof]]
** [[Gene Palmer]]

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#redirect [[Battlestar Wiki:Mirrors]]

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'''Joe Beaudoin Jr.''' is the webmaster and head honcho for the [[Battlestar Wiki]].

I am responsible for starting the beast you see before you now; all the contributors and visitors are responsible for the beast's development and continual growth. This is very much a community-driven effort that has surpassed even my wildest expectations. With that in mind, I thank you all for your hard work and dedication! So say we all!
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* [[Battlestar Wiki:Citation Jihad]]
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* [[/Scratch pad|My scratch pad. Nothing interesting there, other than snippets and stuff that I don't want to forget.]]
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While I really leave all the day to day editing to the contributors, leaving me free to concentrate on major issues (such as policy and so forth, being the "senior chief"), I plan to work on the following:

{{key|orange}}Focusing on [[Battlestar Wiki:Audio Development|the audio-version of Battlestar Wiki]] 
{{key|cyan}}Adding sound content to the wiki, notably in the form of clips from the series. 

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* [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions (biographies)]] - Created out of the need to standardize biographies of cast and crew. Now being implemented on a wider-scale.
* [[Battlestar Wiki:Image tagging policy]] - For the simple fact that many of the images on this wiki aren't organized at all, though most of them are used thanks to Steelviper's [[Battlestar Wiki:Island of Misfit Images]].
* [[Battlestar Wiki:Vandalism]] - You know, just in case some Toaster decides to vandalise pages... Look at what they did to the restaurant that Helo and Boomer were in. All that crockery... oh the pain, the pain.
* [[Battlestar Wiki:Quality Articles]] - As the name ''might'' suggest, this is a project to ID quality pages and develop potential quality pages. The best of the best.
** [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support]] - place to beg for donations, which will go towards paying for the hosting and for future upgrades; not that it's a burden, but I want to give people the option to give back in whatever way they feel is best -- and some people like to do it financially.
* [[Battlestar Wiki:Think Tank]] - The incubator for wide-scale ideas to improve the wiki. If you wish to propose a project or new feature, this is where you need to do so. (I would honestly like more contributors to offer suggestions here, because there's always room for improvement.)
* [[BW:1980|Galactica 1980 Article Improvement Drive]]. - Oh the pain, the pain.
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I'm in California. For the second time in my life. It may be like Mars, were I Michael Alfredo Garibadi. Take that as you may.

While I do prefer that you just contact me on my [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|talk page]], I can be contacted by clicking the "e-mail this user" link in the toolbox, itself being on the left margin of this page.

At present, I have a MacBook Pro -- swearing off Windows-based machines for good, or so I hoped. I do use Windows machines here and there due to business reasons, but nothing beats a Mac in terms of ease of use.

I also have an XBox360 for gaming. Having beaten ''[[w:Mass Effect 3|Mass Effect 3]]'', I mainly play ''[[w:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3|Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3]]'' on XBox Live.

P.S. Yes, you can edit my user page. I trust you. Besides, I can always undo your edits. :-)




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* [http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?q=&url=battlestarwiki.org Battlestar Wiki at Alexa] - Note that it only tracks people who have [[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]] and the Alexa toolbar loaded on IE.
* [http://scripts.ranking.com/data/details.aspx?theurl=battlestarwiki.org Battlestar Wiki at Ranking.com]
* [http://www.quantcast.com/battlestarwiki.org Battlestar Wiki at Quantcast] (far more accurate than the other two, since there is a code embedded in each page to track page hits and statistics).
* [http://www.whois.ws/domain_information-org/battlestarwiki.org/ Information from whois.ws. Interesting stuff.]

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Talk:Blood and Chrome/Archive 1

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== Title ==

Is there any particular reason the title is "Blood and Chrome" with "Blood & Chrome" as a redirect? All press information has used "Blood & Chrome" as the spelling, which says to me that it should be the other way around. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

: The ampersand is a bit of a technical issue in the URL, which is why we're using "Blood and Chrome" for right now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 18:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

:: Ah. I hope that it gets fixed. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 05:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Placeholder image? ==

Until the powers that be release a title card or promotional photo for ''Blood and Chrome'', could we use the [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]] closeup as a placeholder? The image seems to be generic enough to represent any Cylon War-era story. More importantly, we need something for the "Next Aired Episode" box on the main page. -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 12:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

: That works. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:15, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

:: Actually, having thought about it, it would probably suit us to use one of the production art images that are available online. Even if they're just rough art, it's more representative of the production than the Cylon Centurion from "Razor." -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:54, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

:::this might be a little silly, but i did a quick logo for the show, that we could possibly use, obviously it's not offiicial. [[User:Pst001|Pst001]] 03:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp185/i_em_no_cylon/BloodChromelogo1.jpg

:::: We use officially released photography and art whenever possible. Since the concept art is released, let's choose one of those images and use that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Tag for Blood & Chrome ==

We don't have a tag for Blood & Chrome, yet, do we? What's it gonna be? BAC? -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 17:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
: I'm thinking either BC or BAC. More suggestions and discussion are welcome. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 22:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:: BC sounds to me more like a calendric acronym, whereas BAC sounds more fannish. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:::B&C? [[User:Pst001|Pst001]]
::: Can't really use the ampersand. I'm leaning toward BAC. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm also cool with BAC (to the Future).--[[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 01:30, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::BAC, It stays consistant with the other 3 letter tags-- [[User:Quig|Quig]] 22:47, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::So BAC it is? -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 23:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, BAC it is. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Does the ampersand issue still arise if you use the code (I forget what it is, I think it's the HTML code) for it? Just curious... I haven't heard of wiki's having issues with this (but then you all may be doing something different here).

==Character Names==
I am not exactly sure which source was used (to list names on this wiki), but I read an article a few minutes ago, and it said that [[Lili Bordan]]'s character is ''Beka'' Kelly (As opposed to Becca). While I know that wiki's tend to have users "be bold" I thought I would mention this in case "Becca" was confirmed through a more official source. --[[User:Typhoeus|Typhoeus]] 20:14, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

== Summary ==

Will you make a new page called "Blood and Chrome (Pilot)" or simply write the plot into the Plot area of this page? --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 16:17, 20 December 2012 (EST)

: I guess the best way to do it would be, to rename the current page at [[Blood and Chrome]] to [[Blood and Chrome (series)]]. And have a new page for the pilot at [[Blood and Chrome (pilot)]]. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] [[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]] 00:33, 21 December 2012 (EST)
:: Actually, it's not a series yet. For now, it's more like ''[[Razor]]''; a webseries, and a soon-to-come TV-movie. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 01:23, 21 December 2012 (EST)
::: You could keep it as one entire page, since it hasn't gone to series. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:51, 21 December 2012 (EST)

:::: is there a chance, that it will go to series? --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 13:14, 21 December 2012 (EST)

:::: It's up in the air. For now, let's work on the present fact that that this is the only thing we see from B&C, and act accordingly. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:26, 21 December 2012 (EST)

::: And what about a page called "Blood and Chrome (Movie)"? If we put all infos (Summary, Notes, Analysis, Questions etc) in this page it maybe becomes confused. --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 14:31, 21 December 2012 (EST)

:::: Why would it be confusing? It probably wouldn't be much longer than "[[The Plan]]" or "Razor" once it's finished, since the total run time is about the same as those movies. Besides, a good deal of the production history information on the page was added piece by piece over the nearly two years, with little attention given to organizing or prioritizing or consolidating it, so it's a bit of a mess now. I'm sure that once it's cleaned up, though, it will be noticeably shorter. -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 19:05, 21 December 2012 (EST)

::::: I agree. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:32, 21 December 2012 (EST)

:::::: I do agree too. I think, as BlueResistance said earlier, we just have to keep and clean this page. And if, I said if, there is a TV series, to create a BAC (pilot) page in which we put the plot, and we rename this one with adding "(series)". --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 02:07, 22 December 2012 (EST)

:::::::Ok when we rearrange the Themes to:1 Overview 2 Summary 3 other stuff... it will be good and the important things for the reader (the Plot) will be on the top of the page). One more thing: "Razor" and "The plan" uses "Episode Data" and this Page uses "Series Data". Shall we change this for now? And where would you list this movie in the "Template:Episode list"? to "DVD Movies and Features" or to "Webisodes" (for now it seems to be both...) --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 04:23, 22 December 2012 (EST)

:::::::: It should use the Episode Data template, for now. It's more of a DVD movie than it is a webisode, so it should be put under that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 15:45, 22 December 2012 (EST)

== Series Continuity ==

I don't know about anyone else, but I am seeing some major continuity gaps between B&C and the rest of TRS continuity. Is B&C separate, or part of the same continuity line? By the way, I am not just talking about different actors. For example, in the Miniseries, they say that Adama flew a Mark II Viper, but in B&C he flew a Mark III. Anyone else seeing these, or is it just me? {{unsigned|Litgeek306}}

: No more disconnected than the Reimagined Series (or even the sub-par ''Caprica'') itself was. Actually, B&C better in some ways when it comes to logic and continuity. As for the Mark II, he would fly that later on. Like any pilot worth his weight in gold, he would pilot multiple ships... and given how badly he destroys pretty much every ship he flies, it's no wonder that he would be given an older Viper. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:55, 23 December 2012 (EST)

::The question I have is that Adama takes out several Cylons and Raiders in this series, but in the ''Razor'' flashbacks, which take place a few years later, he says he's never flown a combat mission. Huh? —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] 01:27, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

:: Yes! Thank you! I'm not the only one who picked up on this stuff. It's almost as if B&C is a giant retcon of the Razor Flashbacks. Which is kinda crappy, IMO. - [[user:Frylock86|Frylock]] 07:02, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

:::Since the film is set two years into the war there is plenty of time to sort out the Mk II(I) problem. It is likely that the Mk III is largely withdrawn from service due to it being more advanced then the Mk II and thus vulnerable to a large Cylon offensive that takes advantage of growing Colonial over-confidence in how secure their computer systems are (this ties into a couple comments Adama made such as during the mini-series when he says no to a network). As for the Razor flash-backs; it only contradicts the first webisode (possibly the second). However, that was not included in the film (nor the extended version), and since it contradicted comments Adama had made implying/saying that he had extensive combat experience in the war in the series proper it makes scene that they would discount it. [[User:Phalanx-a-pedian|Phalanx-a-pedian]] 11:18, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

:::::The film is set 10 years into the War. Two years before the Armistice. - [[User:Frylock86|Frylock]] 06:54PM, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

::::::Oops! I knew that, twas just a typo. [[User:Phalanx-a-pedian|Phalanx]] 20:25, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

:::: The reverse of this discussion is true: The "Razor Flashbacks" are the offender here, as it was largely implied (and stated outright at various points in the series) that Adama did serve during the last years of the war; the fact that Tyrol and his deck gang were able to recover and restore a Viper that (if you believe the "Razor Flashbacks") was basically destroyed into various pieces of unrecoverable scrap is proof of that. B&C simply establishes that Adama was a pilot during the war who had various missions under his belt and, as Phalanx-a-pedian rightfully points out, the statements made by Adama during the flashbacks were not included in either the uncut version or the TV version of "Razor," and were offered separately more as footnotes. (Also, as they are more "Flashbacks" where Adama recounts his experience, you can allow for the inconsistencies in his memory.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:54, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

::::: I think we should probably just treat the Razor Flashbacks (well, episodes 1 and 2, which didn't make it into the movie) like any other deleted scene, with the "canon until contradicted" rule-of-thumb. Like Joe and Phalanx say, there's a lot that didn't make sense even when they were new, even beyond Adama only flying one combat mission in the entire war. The thing I'm getting at is there are some articles that insist on shoehorning every detail of them into continuity (the Galactica and Raptor articles are the big offenders, insisting that they both got their BSG-era configuration by the last day of the war and then remained unchanged for the next 40 years), even though those are mostly just consequences of showing the Cylon War as a brief sidebar to a modern story and not as a feature that could afford to design retro-Raptors and redress the hangar set. -- [[User:David cgc|David cgc]] 16:38, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

== Great Article on VFX ==

This article is very good at revealing what it took to get B&C to production, and dispels that $2 million budget rumor — it was more than that: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/blood-chrome-a-possible-vfx-future/ -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 12:08, 2 January 2013 (EST)

== Summary (taken from Wikipedia) ==

[Summary purged by Joe B. as it is a copyright violation from Wikipedia, which does not share the same licensing schema as BSGW. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:29, 1 July 2013 (EDT)]

:Enabran, why did you put this here? -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 14:03, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

:: Because there are parts of the story missing and I do not have the time to edit and interlink this text here. My working station is the german Wiki. But I think it is a good way for you to start editing it from here and put it on the mainpage later when all work is done. -- [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 14:45, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

:::No, this really isn't such a good way to go about it, since your reason for doing this isn't immediately obvious. Besides, someone might just copy and paste the unedited Wikipedia text directly onto the main page without rewriting it for our wiki. If you want to recruit help in writing a summary, then you should probably do it in a more direct way--put out an announcement. Otherwise, you should wait for another user to see the missing summary and be interested enough in writing it on her/his own, or you can do it yourself later in the future when you have more time. Believe me, if it's empty for a while longer, it won't be a big deal, so it can wait. Summaries for many ''Caprica'' episodes have been neglected for a longer time (since October-November 2010) than the ''Blood and Chrome'' summary (since December 2012). -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 15:54, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

FYI: I've purged the copy and paste copyright violation referred to above. While its placement was well intentioned by Enabran, we can't have that here for the reason of licensing disparities between us and Wikipedia.. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:29, 1 July 2013 (EDT)

== Joseph Falsetti as Derek Shelby (uncredited) ==

I found this credit on IMDb, but the only thing backing it up are a bunch of copy-and-paste sites. I can't say I recall the name of the character anywhere, so I could be wrong. However, they also list [[Allison Warnyca]] reprising her role as [[Jaycie McGavin]], which I'm confident is nowhere in the film, so it doesn't look to stand on good reliability. Although it's worth noting that this guy's filmography has a quite a few other uncredited part. So, can anyway confirm or deny this? -- [[User:Mars|Mars]] 04:01, 11 April 2015 (EDT)

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{{Series Data
| image= Blood_and_Chrome_Logo.png
| title= Blood & Chrome
| creator=[[David Eick]] and [[Michael Taylor]]
| starring=
| composer= [[Bear McCreary]]
| company= [[w:NBC Universal|NBC Universal]]
| seasons= 1
| episodes= 1 episode consisting of 10 installments<ref group="footnotes" name="blood_chrome_webisode_format_ten_installments">The single feature-length episode was divided into 10 web installments of 7-12 minutes each for online distribution.</ref>
| episodelistid= Blood_and_Chrome
| channel= [http://www.youtube.com/MachinimaPrime Machinima Prime]
| US airdate= November 9 through December 7, 2012<ref group="production" name="hibberd_ew_battlestar_prequel_online_exclusive_november_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/05/battlestar-galactica-prequel-date/#:~:text=Battlestar%20Galactica%20prequel%20being%20released%20online%20Friday|title='Battlestar Galactica' prequel being released online Friday—EXCLUSIVE|date=5 November 2012|accessdate=5 November 2012|last=Hibberd|first=James|publisher=Entertainment Weekly}}</ref>
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| exec producer= [[David Eick]] [[Michael Taylor]]
| producer=
| supervising producer=
| associate producer=
| co-producer=
| story editor=
| prev= [[Apotheosis_(episode)|Caprica (series)]]
| next= TBA (''Chronological: [[Razor Flashbacks]]'')
| itunes=
|archives=y}}

'''''Blood and Chrome''''' (also known as '''''Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome''''') is a webisode series that follows the exploits of a young [[William Adama|William "Husker" Adama]] ([[Luke Pasqualino]]), [[Coker Fasjovik]] ([[Ben Cotton]]), and Dr. [[Becca Kelly]] ([[Lili Bordán]]) during the [[Cylon War|First Cylon War]].

''Blood and Chrome'' is a sequel to ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' and a prequel to the [[Re-imagined Series]].<ref group="development" name="tvbythenumbers_syfy_greenlights_blood_chrome_series_october_2010">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/22/syfy-greenlights-battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/69283#:~:text=Syfy%20Greenlights%20Battlestar%20Galactica%3A%20Blood%20%26%20Chrome|title=Syfy Greenlights "Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome"|publisher=TV By the Numbers|date=22 October 2010|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref> On the condition that it performed to expectations, it would act as a "backdoor pilot" (much like the [[Miniseries]]) for a future series, to be aired either online or through the traditional television route.

The produced story is split into ten parts, each between seven to twelve minutes in length, debuting on Machinima's YouTube channel, [http://www.youtube.com/MachinimaPrime Machinima Prime], starting Friday, November 9, 2012. Additional parts were aired over the following four weeks.<ref group="production" name="hibberd_ew_battlestar_prequel_online_exclusive_november_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/05/battlestar-galactica-prequel-date/#:~:text=Battlestar%20Galactica%20prequel%20being%20released%20online%20Friday|title='Battlestar Galactica' prequel being released online Friday—EXCLUSIVE|date=5 November 2012|accessdate=5 November 2012|last=Hibberd|first=James|publisher=Entertainment Weekly}}</ref>

Unlike previous installments in the [[Re-imagined Series]] universe, [[Ron D. Moore]] was not involved in this production due to his development contract with Sony Pictures. However, many of the creative personnel who worked on ''Blood and Chrome'' have worked on both the Re-imagined Series and its prequel ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'', including [[Michael Taylor]], [[Doug Drexler]], [[Glenne Campbell]], [[David Eick]], [[Bradley Thompson]], [[David Weddle]], and [[Jonas Pate]].

== Production History ==

=== Development and Initial Announcement (July - October 2010) ===
''Blood and Chrome'' was officially announced on 27 July 2010 by [[Syfy Channel]] executive vice president of programming Mark Stern as a 10-part webseries using "cutting-edge digital technology and special effects to depict the [[Cylon War]]" and following a young [[William Adama]].<ref group="development" name="chicago_tribune_battlestar_blood_chrome_announced_july_2010">{{cite_news|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/07/battlestar-galactica.html#:~:text=cutting-edge%20digital%20technology%20and%20special%20effects|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome Announced|publisher=Chicago Tribune|date=27 July 2010|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref> The plan called for the production of a two-hour pilot written by ''[[Battlestar Galactica (TRS)|Battlestar Galactica]]'' and ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' vet [[Michael Taylor]] directed by then co-executive producer of ''Caprica'' [[Jonas Pate]] for release online as a 10-part webseries. It was also revealed that the series would be shot on green screen and utilize computer-generated virtual sets.<ref group="production" name="andreeva_deadline_drama_pilots_directors_november_2010">{{cite_web|url=http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/three-drama-pilots-land-directors/#:~:text=shot%20on%20green%20screen%20and%20utilize%20computer-generated|title=Deadline.com: Four Drama Pilots Land Director|date=22 November 2010|accessdate=23 November 2010|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|format=|language=}}</ref>

In October 2010 it was announced that ''Blood and Chrome'' would be upgraded from webseries to "full-blown pilot for a series" based on positive reception of Michael Taylor's script.<ref group="external" name="aoltv_syfy_orders_blood_chrome_series_october_2010">{{cite_web|url=http://www.aoltv.com/2010/10/22/syfy-adama-blood-and-chrome#:~:text=full-blown%20pilot%20for%20a%20series|title=SyFy Orders Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome to Series|publisher=AOL TV|date=22 October 2010|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref> The announcement prompted speculation that ''Blood and Chrome'' was intended to replace ratings troubled ''Caprica'' which was currently airing on SyFy. In an interview with Maureen Ryan at Huffpost TV Mark Stern denied this saying, "if anything, ''Blood & Chrome'' going to series would only be a great opportunity to pair it with ''Caprica''."<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_stern_caprica_pairing_opportunity_october_2010">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/10/23/mailbag-why-wont-syfys-mark-stern-just-admit-caprica-is-cancelled/69367/#:~:text=great%20opportunity%20to%20pair%20it%20with%20Caprica|title=Mailbag: Why Won't SyFy's Mark Stern Just Admit Caprica Is Cancelled?|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=23 October 2010|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref> On 25 October 2010, LA Times Hero Complex published an interview with co-creator and producer [[David Eick]] discussing ''Blood and Chrome'' and its new characters, particularly [[Becca Kelly]]. In the interview, Eick also elaborated on the series' placement relative to ''Caprica'' and joked about [[Ronald D. Moore]]'s lack of involvement in the show's creation.<ref group="commentary" name="boucher_latimes_beka_kelly_enigmatic_software_october_2010">{{cite_news|url=http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/25/battlestar-movie-will-introduce-beka-kelly-an-enigmatic-software-genius/#:~:text=enigmatic%2C%20seemingly%20impenetrable%20software%20genius|title=Battlestar movie will introduce Beka Kelly, an enigmatic software genius|publisher=Los Angeles Times|date=25 October 2010|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=Boucher|first=Geoff}}</ref>

=== Casting and Pre-Production (January - February 2011) ===
By 26 January 2011 the casting of [[Luke Pasqualino]] as Ensign [[William Adama]] and [[Ben Cotton]] as [[ECO]] [[Coker Fasjovik]] was announced.<ref group="production" name="ew_young_william_adama_cast_blood_chrome_january_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/26/battlestar-galactica-blood-chorme-cast/#:~:text=Young%20William%20Adama%20Cast%20for%20Battlestar%20Galactica|title=Young William Adama Cast for Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|publisher=Entertainment Weekly|date=26 January 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref> Cotton and Pasqualino were cast together after auditioning opposite each other in Los Angeles. Cotton recalled the chemistry was immediate, with each actor testing with multiple potential co-stars: "We were actually cast together. When we did our screen tests, we did it together. We got to go in the room and read opposite each other."<ref group="commentary" name="movieweb_cotton_screen_test_chemistry_together_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=We%20were%20actually%20cast%20together|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref>

The following month on 10 February 2011, it was reported that [[Lili Bordán]] had been cast as [[Becca Kelly]], revealed to be "a Ph.D. who worked for [[Graystone Industries]]."<ref group="production" name="ign_new_character_ties_blood_chrome_caprica_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/02/10/new-character-ties-blood-chrome-to-caprica#:~:text=a%20Ph.D.%20who%20worked%20for%20Graystone%20Industries|title=New Character Ties Blood & Chrome to Caprica|publisher=IGN|date=10 February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref> Bordán was cast just one week before filming began, describing the experience as "the biggest thing I've ever done as an actor" and noting it was "a little daunting."<ref group="commentary" name="movieweb_bordan_casting_experience_biggest_thing">{{cite web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-lili-bordan-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=It%20was%20the%20biggest%20thing%20I%27ve%20ever%20done|title=Lili Bordan Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 15, 2013|accessdate=August 15, 2025}}</ref>

Other casting additions included ''Caprica'' stars [[Brian Markinson]], [[Zak Santiago]], [[Carmen Moore]], and [[John Pyper-Ferguson]] as characters unrelated to their previous roles.<ref group="production" name="zimbio_esai_morales_fairly_legal_markinson_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://www.zimbio.com/Esai+Morales/articles/RrV969BHXVG/Esai+Morales+Fairly+Legal+Brian+Markinson#:~:text=Brian%20Markinson%20for%20Blood%20%26%20Chrome|title=Esai Morales on Fairly Legal; Brian Markinson for Blood & Chrome|publisher=Zimbio|date=February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref><ref group="production" name="digitalspy_caprica_pyper_ferguson_alphas_finale_september_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a336637/caprica-star-john-pyper-ferguson-for-alphas-finale.html#:~:text=Caprica%20star%20John%20Pyper-Ferguson|title=Caprica star John Pyper-Ferguson for 'Alphas' finale|publisher=Digital Spy|date=20 September 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref>

=== Principal Photography and Production Techniques (February - November 2011) ===
[[File:Green screen CIC, BAC.jpg|thumb|Green screen stage with minimal set pieces representing ''Galactica'' CIC.]]

As of 10 February 2011, production had begun on the pilot on green screen stages in [[Wikipedia: Vancouver|Vancouver]], [[Wikipedia: British Columbia|British Columbia]].<ref group="production" name="blastr_filming_begins_battlestar_blood_chrome_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://blastr.com/2011/02/filming-begins-on-battles.php#:~:text=Filming%20Begins%20on%20Battlestar%20Galactica|title=Filming Begins on Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|publisher=Blastr.com|date=10 February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref> The production shot for 15 days with three weeks of rehearsal beforehand.<ref group="commentary" name="comicsonline_cotton_production_schedule_fifteen_days_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://www.comicsonline.com/2013/02/tv-interview-blood-chrome-luke-pasqualino-and-ben-cotton/#:~:text=we%20shot%20for%2015%20days|title=TV Interview: Blood & Chrome- Luke Pasqualino and Ben Cotton|publisher=ComicsOnline|date=February 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref> The cast received training in weapons handling and SWAT tactics for scenes involving Cylon territory infiltration.<ref group="production" name="movieweb_bordan_production_details_fifteen_days">{{cite web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-lili-bordan-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=We%20had%2015%20days%20to%20shoot%20three%20hours|title=Lili Bordan Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 15, 2013|accessdate=August 15, 2025}}</ref>

The cast underwent extensive military training before filming, including weapons handling, tactical maneuvers, and combat techniques. Cotton described the preparation: "We did have a lot of weapons training. There was this group of amazing gun lovers, who taught us how to look like we were in the military, how to deal with the guns, how to work the guns fast, how to shoot them, and how to look like Rambo."<ref group="production" name="movieweb_cotton_military_training_weapons_preparation_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=We%20did%20have%20a%20lot%20of%20weapons%20training|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref>

Working extensively with green screen technology presented unique challenges for the cast. The entire production was filmed against green screen, with Cotton noting: "The entire thing was green screen. I don't think there was a single wall in that set. Anything that we touched was real. We actually got into the ship, but, otherwise, everything around us, was green screen."<ref group="production" name="movieweb_cotton_green_screen_challenges_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=The%20entire%20thing%20was%20green%20screen|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref> He compared the experience to black box theater: "I kind of think of it like a black box theater, because as an actor in a theater like that, every wall is a fourth wall. You just imagine everything, so it's a fun exercise, but you really have to do your homework and know what you're looking at."<ref group="production" name="movieweb_cotton_black_box_theater_comparison_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=I%20kind%20of%20think%20of%20it%20like%20a%20black%20box%20theater|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref>

Director [[Jonas Pate]] allowed the cast significant creative freedom to develop their characters' relationships. Cotton noted there was "real freedom on the set, to just sort of let it go and play with each other."<ref group="commentary" name="comicsonline_cotton_creative_freedom_jonas_pate_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://www.comicsonline.com/2013/02/tv-interview-blood-chrome-luke-pasqualino-and-ben-cotton/#:~:text=real%20freedom%20on%20the%20set|title=TV Interview: Blood & Chrome- Luke Pasqualino and Ben Cotton|publisher=ComicsOnline|date=February 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref> Pasqualino described their working relationship: "I could have screamed in his face. It all really came from the confidence of working together, and Jonas gave us a lot of free range to take it wherever we wanted."<ref group="commentary" name="comicsonline_pasqualino_screamed_face_confidence_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://www.comicsonline.com/2013/02/tv-interview-blood-chrome-luke-pasqualino-and-ben-cotton/#:~:text=I%20could%20have%20screamed%20in%20his%20face|title=TV Interview: Blood & Chrome- Luke Pasqualino and Ben Cotton|publisher=ComicsOnline|date=February 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref>

=== Character Preparation and Development ===
To prepare for his role as Coker Fasjovik, Cotton deliberately avoided extensive viewing of previous ''[[Battlestar Galactica (TRS)|Battlestar Galactica]]'' episodes, explaining: "I started watching the series, and then I had to decide to sort of pull the plug on that. There's so much to watch, and it's so rich. In my case, I wasn't playing a character who had existed in that world. There wasn't much I needed to be familiar with."<ref group="commentary" name="movieweb_cotton_preparation_strategy_avoided_watching_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=I%20started%20watching%20the%20series%2C%20and%20then%20I%20had%20to%20decide|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref> He did acknowledge drawing some parallels between Coker and Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] from the original series, though noted he "wasn't playing Colonel Tigh."<ref group="commentary" name="movieweb_cotton_tigh_parallels_not_playing_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=I%20certainly%20drew%20some%20parallels%20between%20Coker%20and%20Colonel%20Tigh|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref>

Cotton expressed interest in exploring more of Coker's backstory, particularly his relationship with his wife and his drinking habits: "I probably would have liked to know more about him and his wife, because I thought a lot about that relationship that I made up in my mind. That relationship intrigued me... I was also curious about his vices. I wanted to hear Coker defend himself about his drinking."<ref group="commentary" name="movieweb_cotton_character_backstory_wife_drinking_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=I%20probably%20would%20have%20liked%20to%20know%20more%20about%20him%20and%20his%20wife|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref>

=== Post-Production and Network Decisions (December 2011 - March 2012) ===
On 13 February 2011, several photos appeared on Carmen Moore's Twitter feed showing the actress with castmates [[Karen LeBlanc]] and [[Adrian Holmes]] in costume.<ref group="production" name="indiewire_battlestar_reboot_leblanc_holmes_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/battlestar_galactica_reboot_starring_karen_leblanc_adrian_holmes_likely_hea#:~:text=Battlestar%20Galactica%20Reboot%20Starring%20Karen%20LeBlanc|title=Battlestar Galactica Reboot Starring Karen LeBlanc, Adrian Holmes Likely Headed to SyFy|publisher=IndieWire|date=13 February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref> The photos were subsequently removed.<ref group="production" name="geekweek_first_look_set_pics_battlestar_spinoff_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://www.geekweek.com/2011/02/first-look-set-pics-from-the-battlestar-galactica-spinoff.html#:~:text=First%20Look%3A%20Set%20Pics%20from%20the%20Battlestar%20Galactica%20Spinoff|title=First Look: Set Pics from the Battlestar Galactica Spinoff|publisher=GeekWeek|date=February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref>

On 12 November 2011, [[Doug Drexler]] reported that all VFX work on ''Blood and Chrome'' had been completed.<ref group="production" name="drexler_wordpress_update_mains_back_online_november_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2011/11/12/update-on-the-update-time-to-get-the-mains-back-on-line/#:~:text=all%20VFX%20work%20on%20Blood%20and%20Chrome%20had%20been%20completed|title=Update on the Update: Time to Get the Mains Back On Line|publisher=Drexfiles (WordPress)|date=12 November 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=Drexler|first=Doug|archive=Y}}</ref> A month later, Drexler indicated that a decision regarding the fate of the series would be made around February 2012.<ref group="production" name="trekweb_drexler_update_blood_chrome_tv_series_december_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://trekweb.com/articles/2011/12/17/Doug-Drexler-Gives-an-Update-on-Battlestar-Galactica-Blood-and-Chrome-TV-Series.shtml#:~:text=decision%20regarding%20the%20fate%20of%20the%20series|title=Doug Drexler Gives an Update on Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome TV Series|publisher=TrekWeb|date=17 December 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref>

[[Bear McCreary]] announced on 18 February 2012 that he had recently finished scoring the two-hour ''Blood and Chrome'' pilot.<ref group="production" name="mccreary_facebook_scoring_completion_announcement_february_2012">{{cite_web|url=https://www.facebook.com/bearmccreary/posts/277729248966624#:~:text=recently%20finished%20scoring%20the%20two-hour|title=Blood & Chrome scoring completion announcement|publisher=Facebook|date=18 February 2012|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear}}</ref>

On 21 March 2012, an unofficial teaser trailer for ''Blood and Chrome'' began appearing on YouTube, however [[Wikipedia:NBCUniversal|NBCUniversal]] quickly ordered its removal. At that time, several sources revealed that the project would not be moving forward as a TV series on SyFy, but could still be viable as a webseries. It was also stated that the pilot episode could air on SyFy as a standalone television movie.<ref group="production" name="deadline_blood_chrome_cancelled_syfy_march_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-cancelled-syfy/#:~:text=not%20be%20moving%20forward%20as%20a%20TV%20series|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Cancelled by SyFy|publisher=Deadline|date=21 March 2012|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref><ref group="production" name="bleedingcool_blood_chrome_not_moving_ahead_tv_march_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/21/battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-not-moving-ahead-as-a-tv-show/#:~:text=Not%20Moving%20Ahead%20as%20a%20TV%20Show|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Not Moving Ahead as a TV Show|publisher=Bleeding Cool|date=21 March 2012|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref><ref group="production" name="eonline_blood_chrome_not_moving_forward_series_march_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://www.eonline.com/news/battlestar_galactica_blood_chrome/303087#:~:text=Not%20Moving%20Forward%20as%20Series|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome Not Moving Forward as Series|publisher=E! Online|date=21 March 2012|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref>

=== Online Release and Distribution (November 2012) ===
[[File:Luke Pasqualino.jpg||thumb|Early promotional image released 5 November 12 featuring Luke Pasqualino as Ensign William Adama.]]

On 5 November 2012, an Entertainment Weekly exclusive revealed SyFy's plans for ''Blood and Chrome'', detailing the pilot episode's division into ten shorter episodes to be aired on Machinima's YouTube channel, [http://www.youtube.com/MachinimaPrime Machinima Prime], beginning Friday, November 9, 2012. The additional seven to twelve minute episodes would be released in the following four weeks, with the complete pilot episode airing on SyFy in January of 2013.<ref group="production" name="ew_battlestar_prequel_online_release_date_november_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/05/battlestar-galactica-prequel-date/#:~:text=pilot%20episode%27s%20division%20into%20ten%20shorter%20episodes|title=Battlestar Galactica prequel being released online Friday—EXCLUSIVE|publisher=Entertainment Weekly|date=5 November 2012|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref>

Producer David Eick described the "unfortunate rap" ''Blood and Chrome'' had received from the long and confused post-production phase in an interview with the LA Times the day parts I & II premiered: "What became public perception was that we were doing a pilot for Syfy channel. Then when Syfy ultimately decided that it was so cool and so tailor-made for exactly the kind of experiment that we initially planned, that came off as 'Oh, Syfy made a ''Battlestar'' pilot but they're punting it and not gonna air it.' And that's just not how it came down at all — it just went right back to the original plan."<ref group="commentary" name="latimes_blood_chrome_online_on_purpose_original_plan_november_2012">{{cite_news|url=http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/11/09/battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-online-on-purpose/#:~:text=it%20just%20went%20right%20back%20to%20the%20original%20plan|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome online on purpose|publisher=Los Angeles Times|date=9 November 2012|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref>

Cotton expressed enthusiasm about the online release format: "I think it's great! I had never heard of it being done this way before."<ref group="commentary" name="comicsonline_cotton_online_release_enthusiasm_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://www.comicsonline.com/2013/02/tv-interview-blood-chrome-luke-pasqualino-and-ben-cotton/#:~:text=I%20think%20it%27s%20great!%20I%20had%20never%20heard%20of%20it%20being%20done%20this%20way%20before|title=TV Interview: Blood & Chrome- Luke Pasqualino and Ben Cotton|publisher=ComicsOnline|date=February 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref> Regarding the webisode format, Cotton noted: "Personally, I prefer to see it all as once. I prefer it with no breaks, but in TV, you kind of write to a commercial, your acts are sort of contained between commercials. The medium is sort of built to be broken up, so I thought it worked quite well, when they broke it up onto the web."<ref group="commentary" name="movieweb_cotton_webisode_format_preference_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://movieweb.com/exclusive-ben-cotton-talks-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-blu-ray/#:~:text=Personally%2C%20I%20prefer%20to%20see%20it%20all%20as%20once|title=Ben Cotton Talks Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome Blu-ray [Exclusive]|author=Brian Gallagher|publisher=MovieWeb|date=February 18, 2013|accessdate=August 14, 2025}}</ref>

On 9 November 2012, CGSociety published an interview with VFX supervisor [[Gary Hutzel]] detailing the creation of ''Blood and Chrome'' and its 1,800 CGI shots. The article stated that ''Blood and Chrome'' carried a budget of $2 million.<ref group="production" name="cgsociety_blood_chrome_vfx_feature_budget_november_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/battlestar_galactica_blood_chrome#:~:text=carried%20a%20budget%20of%20%242%20million|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome VFX Feature|publisher=CGSociety|date=9 November 2012|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref>

An unrated, uncut Blu-ray and DVD version of the pilot episode was announced on 8 November 2012, with a 19 February 2013 release date. As announced, the Blu-ray and DVD will include deleted scenes and a behind-the-scenes documentary, "Blood & Chrome: Visual Effects".<ref group="production" name="amazon_blood_chrome_bluray_dvd_release_november_2012">{{cite_web|url=http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Blood-Chrome-Blu-ray/dp/B00A3718IS/#:~:text=unrated%2C%20uncut%20Blu-ray%20and%20DVD|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome Blu-ray|publisher=Amazon|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref>

== Plot ==
[[File:Battlestar Galactica - Blood And Chrome Appearence.png|left|250px|thumb|A dorsal view of ''{{RDM|Galactica}}'' as it appeared in the [[First Cylon War]] and [[Blood and Chrome|''Blood and Chrome'']]. Note the large array of gun turrets, armour plating and decal on the ship compared to the re-imagined series.]]
According to co-creator and executive producer Michael Taylor, ''Blood and Chrome'' is "about a young man's [William Adama] initiation into war: both the realities of war as fought by soldiers on the ground (and in [[Battlestar (RDM)|Battlestars]] and {{RDM|Viper}}s), and the somewhat less real version portrayed in the media."

Further, Taylor pointed out that the scope of the series "isn't confined to ''{{RDM|Galactica}}''. Far from it. It's a story that will take us to new corners of the ''Battlestar'' world (or [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol|worlds]]), and yet it aims to be a very contemporary war movie in a lot of ways. I would say I'm thinking as much of [[w:Afghanistan|Afghanistan]] and [[w:Iraq|Iraq]]--the reality of ''[[w:The Hurt Locker|[The] Hurt Locker]]'', [[w:Sebastian Junger|Sebastian Junger]]'s ''[[w:Restrepo (film)|Restrepo]]'', and similar movies--as I am about about the largely implied past of ''Battlestar''."

''Blood and Chrome'' was also meant to feature adult situations as, according to Taylor, the series will not "[shy] away from R-rated blood and guts and sex" due to it being initially meant for online consumption. As was the case with ''[[The Plan]]'', an unrated, uncut version of ''Blood and Chrome'' will appear on Blu-ray and DVD while the webseries and television movie versions will be edited for time and content.

== Music and Sound Design ==

=== Musical Approach ===
Composer [[Bear McCreary]] returned to score ''Blood and Chrome'', marking a significant evolution in his approach to the ''Battlestar Galactica'' musical universe.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_battlestar_blood_chrome_musical_evolution_february_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=significant%20evolution%20in%20his%20approach|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> Unlike his work on the [[Re-imagined Series]] and ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'', which relied exclusively on acoustic instrumentation, McCreary introduced electronic synthesizers and heavy electric guitars to create what he described as "the angry, rebellious teenage son of my ''Battlestar Galactica'' music."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_angry_rebellious_teenage_son_musical_approach">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=angry%2C%20rebellious%20teenage%20son|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

The decision to incorporate synthetic elements was made to match the more action-oriented and adventurous tone of ''Blood and Chrome'', which "departs from the heavy political and religious subtext of the previous two series and emphasizes action, adventure, sex and aerial dogfights."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_departs_political_religious_subtext_action_oriented">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=departs%20from%20the%20heavy%20political%20and%20religious%20subtext|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> McCreary worked with legendary guitarist and keyboardist [[Mike Keneally]], known for his work with [[w:Frank_Zappa|Frank Zappa]] and [[w:Steve_Vai|Steve Vai]], to create the heavy synthesizer bass lines and distorted guitar parts that would define the score's new sound.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_mike_keneally_synthesizer_guitar_collaboration">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=Mike%20Keneally|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

=== Instrumentation and Production ===
The score retained the core ensemble of musicians from previous ''BSG'' productions, including [[Chris Bleth]] on woodwinds, [[MB Gordy]] on taikos and percussion, [[Paul Cartwright]] on electric violin, [[Steve Bartek]] on electric guitars, [[Brendan McCreary]] on vocals, and [[Raya Yarbrough]] on vocals.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_core_ensemble_musicians_retained_bsg_productions">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=core%20ensemble%20of%20musicians|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> The film's budget of $2 million included approximately 1,800 CGI shots, with extensive post-production work on both visual effects and music.<ref group="production" name="mccreary_blog_budget_two_million_1800_cgi_shots">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=budget%20of%20%242%20million|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

To blend the synthetic elements with the traditional acoustic instrumentation, McCreary employed innovative recording techniques. For one sequence involving the characters on an ice planet, he conducted the string orchestra in real-time, having players perform tremolo patterns on open strings while he shaped their dynamics through hand gestures, creating "a blurry, beautiful chord" that would have been nearly impossible to notate traditionally.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_blurry_beautiful_chord_ice_planet_tremolo">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=blurry%2C%20beautiful%20chord|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

=== Thematic Development ===
McCreary developed several new musical themes specifically for ''Blood and Chrome''. The [[Military Theme]], originally composed for the ''BSG'' episode "[[33]]," was adapted to represent Adama's character development and his bonds with fellow soldiers, particularly his relationship with [[Coker Fasjovik]].<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_military_theme_adama_character_development_bonds">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=Military%20Theme|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> McCreary chose this theme over the [[Adama Family Theme]] because "Adama's relationships in ''Blood & Chrome'' are not familial. We are seeing a totally different side of his character."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_adama_relationships_not_familial_different_character_side">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=Adama%27s%20relationships%20in%20Blood%20%26%20Chrome%20are%20not%20familial|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

The [[Becca Theme]] was created for Dr. [[Becca Kelly]], featuring piano, gamelan, vibraphone and rhodes to produce "a shimmering, vibrating quality" with harmonies that evolve from mysterious and dissonant to increasingly emotional as her chemistry with Adama develops.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_becca_theme_shimmering_vibrating_quality_chemistry">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=shimmering%2C%20vibrating%20quality|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> The [[Coker Theme]], a simple six-note melody played by bansuri and supported by duduks, was reserved exclusively for the character's emotional moments.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_coker_theme_six_note_melody_bansuri_duduks">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=Coker%20Theme|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

=== Notable Musical Sequences ===
One of the score's most significant moments occurs when Adama first sees ''Galactica'', for which McCreary [[Colonial anthem|quoted]] [[Stu Phillips]]' classic "Theme from Battlestar Galactica" from the [[Original Series]]. McCreary described this as "the most rousing rendition yet" of the classic theme, augmented with "heavy synths and soaring electric guitars."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_most_rousing_rendition_classic_theme_synths_guitars">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=most%20rousing%20rendition%20yet|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> As Adama peers out of his transport window, McCreary wanted to create "a nearly religious experience" for fans of both the 2004 series and the original 1970s series.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_nearly_religious_experience_fans_adama_transport">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=nearly%20religious%20experience|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

As the scene transitions into the hangar bay, McCreary wrote an elegant vocal line for singer Raya Yarbrough, sung in Latin: "''Domini ducem dederunt agmen qui ducat caelorum''," which translates to "And the [[Lords of Kobol (RDM)|Lords]] anointed a leader to guide the Caravan of the Heavens." McCreary felt this was "perfectly appropriate text to use as Bill Adama first sets foot inside the Battlestar ''Galactica''."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_perfectly_appropriate_text_adama_galactica_hangar">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=perfectly%20appropriate%20text|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

The film concludes with "[[Apocalypse: Blood and Chrome]]," an adaptation of a piece originally written for ''[[Gallery:The Plan|The Plan]]''. This marked the first time in the ''BSG'' universe that a song featured English lyrics, written by [[Raya Yarbrough]] and performed by [[Brendan McCreary]], as McCreary wanted to ensure "that listeners immediately understood their meaning."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_listeners_immediately_understood_meaning_english_lyrics">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=listeners%20immediately%20understood%20their%20meaning|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> The song combines Brendan McCreary's powerful vocals with [[Mike Keneally]]'s distorted guitars, while Raya Yarbrough's ethereal vocal layers float above, creating what McCreary considers "one of my favorite cues I've ever composed for the 'BSG' universe."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_one_favorite_cues_composed_bsg_universe">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=one%20of%20my%20favorite%20cues|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

=== Recording Techniques and Innovation ===
McCreary employed several innovative recording techniques throughout the score. In one notable sequence on the ice planet, he conducted the string orchestra in real-time without written notation, assigning each section (first and second violins, violas, and celli) specific tremolo patterns on open strings. Each player oscillated between their assigned pitches at their own unique speed, creating what McCreary described as "a blurry, beautiful chord."<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_blurry_beautiful_chord_ice_planet_tremolo_real_time">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=blurry%2C%20beautiful%20chord|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> He then shaped the sound by pointing at different sections with his right hand while controlling their energy levels with his left hand, essentially composing the cue in real time while watching the scene.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_composing_cue_real_time_watching_scene">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=composing%20the%20cue%20in%20real%20time|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

For the destroyed battlestar ''[[Archeron]]'' sequence, McCreary created a mournful synthesizer melody doubled with a solo duduk played by Chris Bleth. The mix was carefully balanced so that "the duduk is tucked inside the synth and becomes nearly inaudible," with the synthesizer drawing attention while gaining "an unmistakable humanity" from the duduk's vibrato and the subtle sounds of the player's fingers and breath.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_unmistakable_humanity_duduk_vibrato_archeron">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=unmistakable%20humanity|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

=== Soundtrack Release ===
La-La Land Records released a [[Soundtrack (Blood and Chrome)|limited edition CD of the ''Blood & Chrome'' score]] in March 2013, followed by a [[Soundtrack (Caprica series)|comprehensive ''Caprica'' album]] in April.<ref group="external" name="lala_land_records_blood_chrome_caprica_soundtrack_march_2013">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=La-La%20Land%20Records%20released|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref> The soundtrack includes the complete version of "[[Coker's Interlude]]," a classical piano piece performed by [[Joohyun Park]] that represents a composition [[Coker Fasjovik|Coker]] learned as a child. McCreary composed this piece to feel natural and spontaneous, including deliberate mistakes and allowing the music to start and stop based on Coker's body language during the scene.<ref group="commentary" name="mccreary_blog_cokers_interlude_classical_piano_joohyun_park">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/#:~:text=Coker%27s%20Interlude|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|date=10 February 2013|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=McCreary|first=Bear|format=|language=}}</ref>

== Cast ==

* [[Luke Pasqualino]] as pilot Ensign [[William Adama|William "Husker" Adama]]<ref group="production" name="ew_young_william_adama_cast_blood_chrome_january_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/26/battlestar-galactica-blood-chorme-cast/#:~:text=Young%20William%20Adama%20Cast%20for%20Battlestar%20Galactica|title=Young William Adama Cast for Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|publisher=Entertainment Weekly|date=26 January 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref><ref group="production" name="blastr_filming_begins_battlestar_blood_chrome_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://blastr.com/2011/02/filming-begins-on-battles.php#:~:text=Filming%20Begins%20on%20Battlestar%20Galactica|title=Filming Begins on Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|publisher=Blastr.com|date=10 February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref>
* [[Ben Cotton]] as Raptor ECO Lt. [[Coker Fasjovik]]<ref group="production" name="ew_young_william_adama_cast_blood_chrome_january_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/26/battlestar-galactica-blood-chorme-cast/#:~:text=Young%20William%20Adama%20Cast%20for%20Battlestar%20Galactica|title=Young William Adama Cast for Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|publisher=Entertainment Weekly|date=26 January 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref><ref group="production" name="blastr_filming_begins_battlestar_blood_chrome_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://blastr.com/2011/02/filming-begins-on-battles.php#:~:text=Filming%20Begins%20on%20Battlestar%20Galactica|title=Filming Begins on Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|publisher=Blastr.com|date=10 February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|archive=Y}}</ref>
* [[Lili Bordán]] as computer scientist Dr. [[Becca Kelly]]<ref group="commentary" name="boucher_latimes_beka_kelly_enigmatic_software_october_2010">{{cite_news|url=http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/25/battlestar-movie-will-introduce-beka-kelly-an-enigmatic-software-genius/#:~:text=enigmatic%2C%20seemingly%20impenetrable%20software%20genius|title=Battlestar movie will introduce Beka Kelly, an enigmatic software genius|publisher=Los Angeles Times|date=25 October 2010|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=Boucher|first=Geoff}}</ref> ''Caprica'' was canceled by SyFy four days later on 27 October 2010.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_caprica_cancelled_report_october_2010">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/10/27/report-caprica-cancelled-by-syfy/69960/#:~:text=Caprica%20Cancelled%20by%20SyFy|title=Report: Caprica Cancelled by SyFy|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=27 October 2010|accessdate=27 July 2025}}</ref>
* [[Jill Teed]] as Commander [[Ozar]]
* [[John Pyper-Ferguson]] as [[Xander Toth]]
* [[Brian Markinson]] as Commander [[Silas Nash]]
* [[Karen LeBlanc]] as Raptor pilot [[Jenna McGavin]]
* [[Sebastian Spence]] as Lt. [[Jim Kirby |Jim "Sunshine" Kirby]]
* [[Ty Olsson]] as [[Osiris helmsman|''Osiris'' helmsman]]
* [[Zak Santiago]] as Captain [[Armin Diaz|Armin "High Top" Diaz]]
* [[Mike Dopud]] as Captain [[Deke Tornvald|Deke "Minute Man" Tornvald]]<ref group="production" name="dopud_twitter_casting_confirmation_february_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://twitter.com/#!/dopudmike#:~:text=Mike%20Dopud%20casting%20confirmation|title=Mike Dopud casting confirmation|publisher=Twitter|date=February 2011|accessdate=27 July 2025|last=Dopud|first=Mike|archive=Y}}</ref>
* [[Adrian Holmes]] as pilot [[Zachary Elias]]
* [[Carmen Moore]] as Raptor pilot/ECO [[Nina Leothe]]
* [[Jordan Weller]] as [[Seamus Fahey]]
* [[Tom Stevens]] as Marine [[Baris]]
* [[Terry Chen]] as Crew Chief [[Tiu]]
* [[Sooraj Jaswal]] as [[BSG CIC Marine]]
* [[Leo Li Chiang]] as ''[[Osiris]]'' Marine Sergeant
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as ''[[Osiris]]'' Marine
* [[Zach Martin]] as Marine [[Strohmeyer]]
* [[Aaron Hughes]] as [[Army Medic]]
* [[Toby Levins]] as Pilot "[[Sandman]]"
* [[Tricia Helfer]] as [[Cylon_Models#Inorganic_Humanoids|Cylon Prototype]] (voice; uncredited)
* Uncredited as [[Sig]]

== Crew ==

* Written by [[Michael Taylor]]
* Story by [[David Eick]], [[Bradley Thompson]] and [[David Weddle]]
* Directed by [[Jonas Pate]]

== References ==

=== Footnotes ===
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=== Production History ===
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=== Development and Creative Process ===
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=== Commentary and Interviews ===
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=== External Sources and Reviews ===
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Talk:Caprica (series)/Archive 1

2026-02-05T18:56:00Z

PawPatroler: PawPatroler moved page Talk:Caprica (series)/Archive 1 to Talk:We are fighting Caprica, as he saids “This is my favorite TV-(series) series.” Not: I couldn’t move the “(series” part out of the page title, so that’s why you’ll see two “series”/Archive 1

#Is this for real?
#If this is in the same continuity as the re-imagined series, we won't need a separate namespace for it. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 01:51, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::On the first, it looks it, but, like most people, I'm more inclined to believe things I like.
::I almost posted the second on Quorum, but I decided it was a conclusion we'd all come to anyway. I'm glad I was at least partially right. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 01:56, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::Actually, thinking it through some more, it might be handy to have a namespace for a new series - particularly for projects like the screencap categorization. I'll have to think on how they should coexist. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:00, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::::Just for clarity, you cannot mean an actual namespace like Battlestar Wiki, Podcast, or Sources, since RDM and TOS use the same one. Assuming you mean something like the use of "RDM" as a parenthetical disambiguation term, I disagree. It should never be necessary to disambiguate between RDM and Caprica if they share a continuity. In fact, I think TOS/Caprica name conflicts should be resolved with RDM, as Ronald D. Moore is the creative force behind Caprica, too; it would also avoid a problem if something is mentioned first in Cparica, then in RDM.
::::I think a category would be sufficient for screen capture organization. (It's clearly necessary, anyway.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:09, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::Yes, I meant the parenthetical suffix. What we have now is, for example, "Screen Captures (TOS)", "Screen Captures (1980)" and "Screen Captures (RDM)". The reason (1980) and (TOS) are separate is that there are numerous other continuities that branch off of TOS and don't include 1980, a concern that wouldn't be relevant for RDM and "Caprica". However, wouldn't we want a category such as "Screen Captures (Caprica)" that would be distinct from "Screen Captures (RDM)"? That's why a parenthetical designation separate from "RDM" might be useful. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:13, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::::::That's the category I meant. Category:CAP should probably just be [[:Category:RDM]], barring a desire to keep track of things mentioned in the re-imagined series only or Caprica only. Category:Episode Guide (CAP) would suffice for episode pages, which would also be in Category:RDM to indicate continuity, not series. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:20, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::::I think this is horribly confusing. The best thing would be to have separate abbreviations for the current series and the RDM universe as a whole, but I don't exactly feel like going through the entire wiki, moving articles, categories and links. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:23, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
Not only is it real, when I saw the first rumor I immediately took it to the "Talk to Mrs.Ron" thread, and asked. She asked Ron, who within 30 minutes responded that yes, he had already publicly pitched it to ScifiChannel and the news sites weren't making it up and it wasn't a rumor. Talk about fan-base connection! Secondly Peter, we do need a template if only for the episodes: I mean Next Generation and Deep Space Nine are in the same continuity, share several characters and even have crossover episodes, but we still use "TNG" and "DS9" stuff to sort the two out. I mean one day they might have a "Caprica" episode called "Resistance". So we have RDM "Resistance" and CAP "Resistance". It's just a convention to use for episode naming really. I mean when Galactica shows up in "Caprica" it'll be the same ship, and we'll still call it "Galactica (RDM)", yes, but "CAP" would be mostly an episode thing. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 02:02, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:I sincerely hope they never give an episode the same name, but I suppose it's possible. I suggest not using " (CAP)" unless that forces it, and, even then, restricting it to that specific usage. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:11, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::Well, most series tend to wind up using 3 letter abbreviations after a while. And yeah even TNG had "The Emissary (TNG)" not to be confused with the pilot episode of Deep Space Nine, "The Emissary (DS9)".--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 02:14, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

==Abbreviation==
For templating and just basic shorthand, we need an abbreviation we'll officially use for this series, just as ''The Next Generation'' is TNG, ''The Original Series'' is TOS, and Ron D. Moore's ''Battlestar Galactica'' is RDM. I think CAP would be good. Any objections?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 02:12, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:"Caprica" in full looks better and doesn't take much longer to type, while CAP is visually consistant with RDM and TOS. I don't much care one way or the other. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:14, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::I guess so, well just in case anyone wanted it. I'm not staking a big discussion on this, I'm just tossing ideas around. Whatever works out. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 02:16, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::Oh I just figured this out: both "Caprica" and "Voyager" have 7 letters, but Memory Alpha uses that "VOY" abbreviation all the time. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 02:17, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::::So will RDM refer to both the RDM universe and the re-imagined series, while CAP refers just to the new spinoff? That is, suppose a new character named "Rigel" shows up in the "Caprica" series. Is she "Rigel (RDM)", or is she "Rigel (CAP)"? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:18, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::She'll be summarily executed and all memory of her erased. ...That is a problem, though. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:23, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
'''Thought''': There currently exist no pages requiring re-imagined series vs. ''Caprica'' disambiguation. "RDM" is currently used only for things that are part of both continuities.

'''Proposal''': "TNS" should be used for the things only belonging to the re-imagined series, i.e. Episode Guide (RDM) -> Episode Guide (TNS), Screen Captures (RDM) ->Screen Captures (TNS), and things named the same in both (like hypothetical Rigel and Resistance). "RDM" should be used for the entire continuity that Ronald D. Moore has created.

This minimizes changes, but it disambiguates what must be. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:30, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:I agree that this is probably the best way out of the problem, but I just want to emphasize how very, very much I don't want to make all these changes. We will need to carefully plan what needs to be moved and what does not, in order to avoid inconsistancies and broken links. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:37, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Well actually I think it can be simpler, and moreover that we didn't want to use "TNS" anymore because it falls back into the "it's a new show, as opposed to the old show" mentality when they're really not comparable. 
'''Thought''': "RDM" covers...the entire "RDMverse" for lack of a better word. 
'''Proposal''': We'll actually keep using "RDM" for '''almost everything''', and "RDM" is the catch-all word for the "RDMverse", HOWEVER, in cases such as "The Hand of God" which is an episode titled "RDM"....we'll just keep calling those "RDM" because there's only a few of them and they're really easy to spot. ****"CAP" would really only be used as an episode guide abbreviation, and when *citing episode articles*.
--->For example, really the only time I think we'd really use "CAP" is like this: "The Cylon War began 52 years before the Fall of the Twelve Colonies <nowiki>([[RDM]]: "[[Colonial Day]]"), and was started when a Centurion named B166ER killed his human commander ([[CAP]]: "[[Cylon Revolt!]]"</nowiki>" check out a couple of pages on Memory Alpha, ones that cover alien races that span multiple tv shows like Klingons and such: that's the format they use to cite stuff between episodes, even though they're in the same continuity. But really, we can't use "BSG" because that means "BattlestarGroup", and not "TNS" because we don't want to stress that it is the new series. They're all part of the "RDMverse", while the current show is ''specifically'' "RDM", and events, objects, and persons on "Caprica" will still be put in the "RDM" category, but episodes will have "CAP". ---->'''Unless of course, you guys want to invent the term "RDMverse" for use on the Wiki as an all-encompassing term'''--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 03:18, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:CA's solution is really the only reasonable thing to do in the long term, even if it is going to be a bit like a root canal. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 05:31, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

::Well, we've root-canaled before. Just need more laughing gas. Other wikis ''wish'' to have problems like ours. :) I'm in general agreemnent with CA's idea, though it's going to sting. (Oh, I got the B166ER reference, Merv. It wouldn't be an inappropriate way to start the conflict in this show either, come to think of it...) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:40, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::I hope I read this right... RDM to TNS? Can I work on a bot that does this for us? Does it have to be right now also? There is no set timetable yet for this to show. I was alsmost going to recommend {{tl|delete}} very early AM. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:50, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

::Well look I'm not so adamant about it that I'm willing to make some sort of Faustian pact in order to see it done, but I'd ''prefer'' if we didn't use "TNS" because "The New Series" makes it sound like we're trying to set it "as opposed to the Old" when really they're not comparable. I don't know what else we could come up with, but I'm working on it. Though I must say, we have several MONTHS before we get more news on this and we've got time to decide! Yes, Spencerian, other wikis do wish for this kind of spinoff info and discussion! :) Anyone ever read "Stranger in a Strange Land"? Sometimes discussions like this remind me of that thing they mention in passing, that a Martian religious epic poem got made by a nestling that turned into a non-corporeal Old One without realizing it, and thus made a work unlike any other: as a result, the Martians themselves are heavily involved in debating this "art", even HOW to judge it, and are unconcerned with the affairs on Earth in the story; and Heinlein mentions that it will take centuries before they're done discussing this vexing dilemma! :) ***Well yeah, indeed, it is ''more'' applicable than B166ER Spencerian: those bots were just used for grunt work, but according to RDM, the Cylons were used for heavy work like mining ''as well as'' soldiers for wars ''between'' the independent Colonies; like, an army of Cylons fighting for Caprica versus and army of Cylons fighting for Gemenon, stop and ask why they're being forced to kill their fellow Cylons all the time; plus they've already got weapons. Yeah, sort of like the Jaffa in that way, actually (the Goa'uld always fought wars which were essentially just petty rivalries between the Goa'uld System Lords, thousands always dying killing their fellow Jaffa for no real reason). --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 13:01, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::First: Heinlein rules. Excellent reference.
:::Second: When I take a step back, I can see how an outsider might consider some of the discussions/debates of this nature to be silly. Perhaps as silly and arbitrary as Green vs Purple (Green rules!), Black/White vs White/Black (Original Series Star Trek), whether the Chosen realm was [[Memoryalpha:Triannon|created]] in nine days or ten days (which should be obvious to any '''rational''' observer, but the debate raged anyway). However, I'm glad that there are people who care about sweating the details like this, and thoughtful (if sometimes energetic) debate about it is one of the great byproducts of the wiki experience.
:::Lastly, and regarding the abbreviation: I don't really have anything definitive to add, but I do ask that we try to disregard the implementation details at first, and try to come up with the "right" way to do it. When I first saw this, I cringed as I anticipated mass conversion of RDM marks over to a new abbreviation. (I even considered pleading "TOS" citizenship, but I think I'm too young.) However our goal is to be 100% correct in the end, which means not having to explain to a user years from now why the abbreviations are inconsistent. Fortunately, in this case we also likely have considerable lead time, and members with the technical expertise to implement whatever high-level category/abbreviation/etc. decisions that consensus arrives at. As for TNS vs TOS, etc. Even as a heavy editor of the TOS pages, I wasn't offended by a TNS (as I often read TOS as being "The Old... Stuff" anyway). However, technically 1980 is newer than TOS, as is any show in the continuity after this one. TRS? (The Reimagined Series?) Ideally these abbreviations would only be used at intersections in namespaces, but there is also the categories to consider. Would all the new material ALSO fall under RDM (so you have an RDM-wide content area), but then also fall under their own respective categories for their series? Well... there's a lot to consider. But we've got plenty of time, and hopefully we can work smart (as opposed to hard) on this to minimize the grunt work and maximize the accuracy, concision, and organization. Green! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:38, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:I think I misunderstood: I'd prefer to use "RDM" to refer to the current BSG series, not TNS, but for destinguishing screencaps and images and such, yeah TNS is just a technicality yeah. I just don't want to see "The Hand of God (TNS)". --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 13:04, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::How do you feel about Steelviper's "TRS" idea? I rather like it for the increased accuracy. It seems we agree on leaving stuff from the combined continuity marked "RDM" where necessary to disambiguate from TOS or 1980. I just don't think continuing to use "RDM" for episodes and screen captures of the re-imagined series is appropriate, as it uses the same symbol for two related but distinct concepts (which is even worse than using the same symbol for two completely different concepts); it also breaks on characters with the same name, as normally "Foo (RDM)" would be used for a character from ''Caprica'' and, thus, two articles would "rightfully" have the same name. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:06, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:Well first off, "Chosen Realm" and Enterprise as a whole are a poor source of analogy, as it was poor writing. :) --->I'd actually prefer "'''RIS'''" , "Re-Imagined Series" over "TRS" "The Reimagines Series", on account of the fact that visually "TRS" is too similar to "TOS", witha difference of only one letter. New thoughts: I think I'd go with "RIS" for the current series because it is a "Re-Imagining" of TOS Battlestar Galactica's idea about a show centered on Galactica and such, but while "Caprica" is set *IN* the "Re-Imagined Universe", it's not a *DIRECT* "not so much a "remake" as a "Re-Imagining" of the essential concept" thing. ---->Therefore, I think now, I'd want to refer to the universe as a whole as "RDM", and characters places and objects like the planet Caprica, William Adama, and the Battlestar Galactica would be "RDM", but like images and episodes (we might get a name re-used or something else) for the re-imagined version of the series centered on Galactica leadering a rag-tag fleet of survivors would be called "RIS" for Re-Imagined Series, while "Caprica" stuff would be "CAP". So use "RIS" instead of "TRS", but otherwise (if I understand what he said correctly) I think I essentially agree with CA. (Either way, I'd prefer these ideas over "TNS") You guys like that idea?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 15:27, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:: So basicly everything that is currently ''RDM'' will be changed to ''RIS'' and this new series would be ''CAP''?
:::No. RDM will continue to be used for things which pertain to the RDM continuity/universe. Only those things which need to be disambiguated from CAP within that framework will get the new tag. So, "Boxey (RDM)" will stay "Boxey (RDM)", but "Screen captures (RDM)" will become "Screen captures (TNS)" (or whatever we decide to call it.) --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 16:49, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::::Right.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 17:30, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

==Suffix discusion==
(This probably deserves its own project sooner or later. We'll get around to it.)
*TNS ("The New Series"): Not good. The series isn't going to be "new" in ten years.
*TRS ("The Re-imagined Series"): Adequate, although it doesn't roll off the tongue.
*RIS ("Re-Imagined Series"): I dislike using both the morpheme and the stem for the abbreviation.
*2003 (by analogy with 1980): Confusing, since the series will continue into at least 2007.

Any other ideas? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:18, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:Well I'm favoring "RIS". --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 17:30, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

::It sounds like [[Wikipedia:Bris|Bris]], which makes me uncomfortable. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:31, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:::To be honest, I don't think "bris" is a word your average joe on the street immediately recognizes. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 19:13, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::::Since I assume you're not Jewish, it doesn't surprise me that you don't think that. I am going on the record as saying "RIS" gives me the jibblies. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:08, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:I'm putting my vote in for ''TRS'', and I disagree about it not rolling off the tongue. I think it rolls off the tongue just fine. --[[User:Viannah|Viannah]] 16:29, 12 November 2006 (CST)

This is not like '''TNS:Article Name''' or is this '''Article (TNS)'''. Even I am aginist serperate namespaces for articles. I suggested another namespace for Archives, because that is reasonable, but not for "Series". I don't know of any Wikis that do this, other than doing (SERIES) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:37, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:Well like I said check out MemoryAlpha they do this all the time to destinguish the various series. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 20:00, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::Here are some of your theories put to the test.
:::*http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Voyager says it's an "Article"
:::*http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jeri_Taylor says it's an "Article"
:::*http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine says it's an "article"
:::*http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Memory_Alpha:User_projects is a "Project" page.

::Which means they do not do: ''Star_Trek: Voyager Jeri Taylow''

::Oh.. and TNG goes to '''''Star Trek: The Next Generation'''''. Nothing suggests that they do it this way on MA. Other than when an episode from two diffrerent series has the same name, they do (TNG), (DS9), and so on. Check your sources before you think state a fact. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:39, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:::Calm down; he misunderstood you. As discussed above, there is some imprecision with the usage of the word ''namespace'' here. Namespaces are things like "Battlestar Wiki," "Podcast," or "Sources" that prefix a page name. "TNS," "TRS," and "RIS" would be parenthesized after the page name proper.
:::You might note the more civil tone taken in my mention of this above. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 21:25, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I am pretty sure he undesrtanded me because I mentioned it above in the other discussion. I have said that "TNS", "TRS" would be in () but he said they use namespaces, which he knows, because he has worked on these himself. There was was much confusing in his long paragraphs I asked twice for clairfication from him, and he never responded. I was pointing out the differences between the Wiki in which he compares to MA a little to much. I don't because it's very retrictied to what they can do since they are on a hosted "community". --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 21:44, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:I'm consciously abusing the term "namespace" here, mainly because I couldn't think of anything better. "Suffix" will work fine, though. Sorry for any confusion. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:07, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

::Look I think there's confusion on what's meant by "namespace" and to be honest I don't know exactly what that means; I just meant, in in-article citations, that's how we'd abbreviate it: I mean like I said above, it would be "William Adama: William Adama is the commander of Galactica during the fall of the Twelve Colonies <nowiki>([[RIS]]: [[Miniseries]]), and first joined the colonial military when Cylon Centurions destroyed his humble family moisture farm ([[CAP]]: "[[The Die is Cast]]")</nowiki> that's all, I mean I don't know what changing namespace would entail. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 22:25, 27 April 2006 (CDT)
:::That is display. ''Twelve Colonies ([[RIS]]: [[Miniseries]])'' It's ok to create invaild links if you need to make your point. I do it all the time. But if there was two boxey's bettween CAP and RIS, ''Boxey <nowiki>([[CAP]]: [[Boxey (CAP)|Boxey]])</nowiki>'' to ''Boxey ([[CAP]]: [[Boxey (CAP)|Boxey]])'' --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 22:34, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

::::I think that unless there was a CAP miniseries as well, that wouldn't be necessary. "William Adama stubbed his toe when he was two ([[SomeCapricaEpisode]]). He would later reflect on this during a cylon attack in "[[SomeGalacticaEpisode]]"." --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:45, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Well that was just to get the ball rolling. Let's get back to figuring out the nuts amd bolts of this when we know more about episodes and casting and such.....one year from now. :) --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 18:21, 29 April 2006 (CDT)

==Spinoff?==
I don't think it's accurate to call this a spinoff in the article. It's not a spinoff because it contains none of the same characters or story. It's a prequel. That is like saying Voyager was a spinoff of Deep Space Nine. They are in the same continuity, but Caprica isn't a spinoff. If it were about the Caprica resistance in the current timeline, then it would be a spinoff. --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 09:28, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:Prequels are technically spinoffs. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 09:34, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::Generally spinoffs keep to the same timeline. You don't normally go backwards in a spinoff do you? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 09:39, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:::"Star Trek: Enterprise" was both a prequel and a spinoff. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 11:46, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Thanks for clarification :) --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:48, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:I disagree. I think a spinoff has to take place within the same timeline, not just the same universe. Voyager is not a spinoff of Deep Space Nine. --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 12:19, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::No, and something is in the same "timeline" if it's in the same "universe". Next Generation was a spinoff of "Star Trek" the Original Series, despite being set 75 years later and featuring none of the original characters in recurring roles. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 13:15, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:::I meant the current time, I don't know a better word for that. --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 13:23, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:::[[wikipedia:Spinoff#Variants_of_spin-offs|Wikipedia says:]] "A new series is started with the same theme and existing in the same universe as the original series, but may not necessarily have the same characters. Examples of this type are the Star Trek, Stargate, Law & Order, and CSI series. These are sometimes called franchises." and "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager and Star Trek: Enterprise are also spinoffs of the original series." Not that wikipedia is necessarily definitive (Oregon is "Idaho's Portugal"), but I thought it might help us refine the definition of "spinoff" that we're using. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:22, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::::The new mag. even states that the series is not final yet. It just out there. Usually a marketing ploy. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:32, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:::::In the IGN interview with RDM and Eick, it seemed to me (IMHO) that Eick was downplaying the possibility (We only have the script and that's it). --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:37, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

== The Graystone Family ==

Anyone have any theories as to who the Graystones are? The family of the inventor of the Cylons? The family of Lee and Zak's mother Caroline? Both? [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 10:45, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

:My initial reation was that the Graystones would be the inventors of the Cylon, definitely. Or perhaps, on the other side of the coin, activists wholly opposed to their creation. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 10:00, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::Madbrood's guess is correct. According to an interview with Ron Moore on the SciFi.com website, the Greystones are a family where there is a "Microsoft"-like company that loves to make technology, regardless of whether they should. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:21, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::Gods damn, I'm good :D --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 07:10, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

== Starting Production? ==
HHR is reporting that production will begin November, and may be shown on NBC.[http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=3488]. Don't know if this is concrete enough to post in article. I always thought the show might play better on another network. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 05:48, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

== Reality, Meet Fiction. Fiction, Reality. ==

During my morning coffee I chuckled [http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1695546.ece at this link from a UK newspaper], which is all too relevant to this article. Best quote from a reader:

<blockquote>"Seriously though given the amount of coding errors I detect and fix as an IT specialist I would be more worried that your toaster will toast and butter you instead of the bread."</blockquote>

-- [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:42, 4 May 2007 (CDT) ([[User_Talk:Spencerian|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Spencerian|Contrib Skillz]] - [[Special:Editcount/Spencerian|Edit Skillz]])
:I wouldn't mind being "buttered" by [[Number Eight|#8]] :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:47, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
::Some honey and cinnamon from the belly button of a Six would be fine too. I'll skip any "French toast" jokes. :) -- [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:28, 4 May 2007 (CDT) ([[User_Talk:Spencerian|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Spencerian|Contrib Skillz]] - [[Special:Editcount/Spencerian|Edit Skillz]])
:Link has died. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:00, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
::The article's title is "Human rights for robots? We’re getting carried away" on the London ''Times'' Online site. I found a [http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1695546.ece newer link.] --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:00, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

== Sci Fi taking [[FlashGordonWiki:Flash Gordon (Sci Fi Channel)|Flash Gordon]] over this? ==

I remember someone commented along YouTube's upload of [[Razor Flashbacks]] that [[Sci Fi Channel|Sci Fi]] took ''Flash Gordon'' over ''Caprica''.. As I'd highly doubt this is true, just to make certain: simply a rumour or a little more? [[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 09:55, 17 October 2007 (CDT)

== Hope? ==

In the latest TV Guide, there's a snippet on page 28 that claims that Mark Stern (SciFi's executive VP of original programming) said, "I just got a call from NBC-Universal. They want us to take another look at the project." (With reference to Caprica.) So, there may be hope yet (in part, likely, due to the writer's strike. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 20:24, 15 January 2008 (CST)
: It would be interesting to see if it ever takes off the ground... On the other hand, if it starts prepping during the strike, will RDM and company be involved in it? Or will they just give the show to someone else? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 20:38, 15 January 2008 (CST)

== New information from E!Online==

Since we apparently believe this, is it appropriate to add Tamara Adama to the Siblings and Children sections, respectively, of Bill and Joseph's character infoboxes? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
: That'd work. We just need to make sure to add the proper referencing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 20:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Spoiler Policy for the new series? ==
So I was just wondering how far are we willing to go with information coming out of the new series before we call it a spoiler? Our spoiler policy doesn't cover new series, as dealing with an upcoming series is a first for the wiki. Personally I think the information we're getting now counts as premise, and is ok to leave without spoiler warnings, but if in the future we get more detailed information than what we have it may be spoilerific.-- [[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 00:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Good point. I think anything that deals with the plot is a spoiler, but until everything is settled there won't be episode pages. There are a few character pages, but I have no idea how to classify those. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

==Past or present tense?==
By the way, since the RDM episodes are written in present tense (regarding information on status as of the last episode), I assume all Caprica info should be written in past tense, even when the show is on air? [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 15:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:Um, that's tricky, and we have to think of something here, but in general, I'd say no. That's just awkward. They're the same universe, but when reading something about ''Caprica'', I'm reading from that show's POV, which is generally present tense. When including ''Caprica'' information into a TNS article past tense fits though (fixed :) ). Or for people who are dead. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis of the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. Also, it will be confusing if the [[Joseph Adama]] article has information from Caprica in the present tense and information from TNS about events that happened after Caprica in the past tense. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Memory Alpha's system is very silly. Practically everything is in the past tense, because they use an annoying pseudo-historian approach. For a long time they had stuff like "Humans were a species", but at least that is fixed by now. That really hurt. I really, really prefer that we use present tense - it just reads a lot better - but I see the issue with a larger universe like ST, and as you see the issue crops up with ''Caprica'' now. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I happen to agree with Serenity. I also happen to agree that MA's system of doing things verges on the asinine. Here's the short of it, to clarify:
* If an article is ''exclusively'' about ''Caprica'', then it should be written in ''present tense''. Same goes for articles exclusively about the Re-imagined Series.
* If an article spans from ''Caprica'' to the re-imagined series, then:
*# Events occurring ''before'' the [[Miniseries]] (timeline-wise) should be written in the ''past tense''.
*# Events occurring ''during'' and ''after'' the Miniseries (timeline-wise) should be written in the ''present tense''.
I should add that there are a few exceptions to this, such as articles on the history of the Twelve Colonies, etc, but the above works for 95% of the content we have on the wiki. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 17:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Are we sure we're not getting ahead of ourselves here? ==

I've been thinking, considering that all that is being produced is a pilot, is giving the casting sheets full canonical status a little presumptuous? If the series doesn't get taken up, then we might find a lot of the wiki becomes akin to [[Battlestar Galactica: Year Two proposal]] from TOS. Perhaps some qualifying tags can be added to the content. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 23:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:The pilot has been greenlit and the information from the casting sheet is likely only from the pilot. And even if nothing more than the pilot is produced, it will still have canonical status and the characters will still have articles here. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 23:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I find that we have topped what we can do, including the poral which I never expected to have anything other than the introduction. The things in Cylons portal gotta go. It's just got no place right now there. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 23:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:::As for the Cylon portal, I guess you're right, it's too early to add it there. And if anything on the sheet is from episodes other than the pilot, we'll just note which info is from the pilot and which is/was supposed to be in further episodes after the pilot is aired. And if we consider information from Bradley Thompson and Ronald D. Moore given off-screen as canon then I don't see a reason not to consider Caprica canon even if not all of it eventually gets produced. And since the pilot has been greenlit, this will definitely be more than the Year Two proposal anyway. And the articles on new characters have the spoiler tags which warn that they may differ from the final, aired version. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 23:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not that happy about the inclusion of small details into other articles. The character articles are perfectly fine. The information is valid, but it's largely contained to a few articles. But it shouldn't be spread around freely. A lot can change until the show is aired. For example there is a script from the Miniseries that had all Colonies on one planet. And, for example, a character's home colony can easily be switched. I'm not saying that we should remove it, but further edits to non-Caprica articles should be done carefully. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:: Concur. Also, if we're to add content to already established articles (Joseph Adama, Tauron, etc) we must note via footnotes that the information is subject to change and is, by no means, final until it is aired. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 06:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Added the footnotes to everything I could remember. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Apropos of small info: [http://www.sidesexpress.com/se_index.cfm?locid=5&task=type&l=5&c=caprica&p=1#sr Mayrs/Brandstatter] are now looking for even more actors. -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 12:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am sending my face/picture/resume in. I so want to be that agent. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::Anyone with an account on that site to get more casting info? [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 19:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

==Timeline Discrepency?==
The promo material for the series states that it starts 51 years prior to BSG itself and is set at a time before the Colonies are unified. However, this appears to be impossible: in Colonial Day it says the Colonies were unified 52 years earlier, whilst the mini-series states that the Cylon War ended over 40 years ago and then Razor says the war lasted 12.5 years, putting the start of the war between 52 and 53 years before the mini. Taking that into account, by 51 years before the events of BSG, the Colonies should already be unified and at war with the Cylons (an RDM blog post suggests that the Colonies unified because of the war). I would also assume that the Cylons would need many years (a decade or more, surely?) before the war to be fully developed and mass-produced, and their ships to be built. A more sensible starting time for CAPRICA would be 60+ years prior to BSG. A possibly explanation given on other boards is that the mechanical Cylons already exist, maybe even their war machine, and it is the events of CAPRICA that leads to the creation of more advanced AI and the Cylons gaining sentience. Whilst this wouldn't help the simple fact that they should already be at war, it would minimise the damage. Of course, the promo material also states that Graystone's work results in the creation of the very first Cylons, which would seem to rule that out. Hopefully they'll fix this with a caption or something at the start of the pilot, but at the moment it sounds like a continuity error to even dwarf Hero could be in the running here.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 12:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
: Yeah, this is a bit of a timeline discrepancy here, or at least seems that way from the information available online in regard to the production. It would be worth noting, but we need to make sure we note that this is from presently available information. (Also, they may define a "year" differently after all. Interestingly enough, they did define Razor in terms of days, not a breakdown of years/months/days. So they have wiggle room there.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 14:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
==Number of episodes==
Official press release says that, "SCI FI Channel has greenlit production on the new original series Caprica, ordering 20 hours of the drama '''including''' the two-hour pilot,..." so it should be Pilot + 18 episodes, not 21 episodes. --[[User:Deus|Deus]] 08:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== How is this consistent? ==

Early in BSG, somebody says something along the lines of, "The last time we saw the Cylons they looked like walking toasters." The humans were caught completely off guard by the Cylon infiltrators because nobody realized it was possible for a robot to pass as a human.

Now in this new series, set 50 years before the events of BSG, we have somebody already creating a robot that is a perfect replica of his daughter. By the time of BSG, the idea of robots passing as humans should be very old news.

How is this apparent contradiction resolved?

[[User:Capedia|Capedia]] 05:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

: It's complicated, and without blowing my NDA out of the water, it's not really what you think... You really have to see Caprica before you go around asking questions of badly reported information. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 06:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::I believe that the robot replica doesn't actually look human, only the VR avatar does. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 22:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Page for the pilot ==

How about we create a separate page for the pilot, where we can include e.g. some episode-specific cast info for minor characters? Or is it too early? Also, should we move [[Evelyn Adama]] to [[Shannon Adama]], since the latter is used in ''Caprica'' (apparently they forgot that they already gave her a name)? Or should it stay where it is for now, since that's the only official name until ''Caprica'' airs? [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 22:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:For now, as we haven't a name for the pilot or other data to firm it up, let's wait a bit. We'll start getting buzzed by the Sci Fi Channel blitz by midway in the year, if not earlier, I reckon. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 22:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I think it would be good to have a place for all the casting info for minor characters that would clutter this page too much. And [[Caprica pilot]] would IMHO be a good temporary name for that.
::And any thoughts on the Evelyn/Shannon thing? [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 22:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Let's be bold about it and set it up, carefully. But use spoiler tags liberally and use practically no speculation since there's nothing to speculate with. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 02:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Links Between BSG (RDM) and Caprica (Series) ==

I was wondering if there was a page that covered all the references to Caprica (the series) that have appeared on BSG since the third season (i.e. the Seventh Cylon, Daniel). --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 17:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Three-letter Suffix Discussion ==

If it isn't already settled, since there are so many pre-existing uses of (RDM), leave it at that for the re-imagined series and use (CAP) for ''[[Caprica]]'' and just let it go. Changing all the uses of (RDM) is unnecessary, bureaucratic make-work. Or so I think, anyway. -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 23:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:Does it need it's own suffix? (RDM) and (TOS) signify continuities, and this is the (RDM) continuity. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 00:22, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== ''Caprica'' and the [[First Cylon War]] ==

Certainly this is early to ask this question, and even if there's been an answer given certainly it wouldn't be cast in stone right now, but I'm curious if Mr. Moore, Mr. Eick, or anyone else has indicated whether the ''Caprica'' timeline will extend all the way into the [[First Cylon War]], or if the program will stop short of that?

I ask because there were early indications that ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Enterprise Star Trek: Enterprise]'' might have extended all the way into the Trek-continuity [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Earth-Romulan_War Earth-Romulan War], although it later turned out otherwise, and this strikes me as similar in that regard (a prequel in an established history leading up to a known war which is definitely part of in-program-universe history although not yet depicted). -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 23:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:There's been no indication of this as of yet. It seems to be all pre-war, but no one knows what direction it might ultimately take, including the writers. I'd love to see the war featured somehow along the line, especially with [[Michael Hogan]], [[Michael Trucco]], [[Kate Vernon]], [[Aaron Douglas]], and [[Rekha Sharma]]. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 00:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Centurion? ==

In the Caprica sneak peak titled "Two Daughters" a robot that looks remarkably like the Modern Centurion of Battlestar Galactica. It is seen for a short period 32 seconds before the trailer ends. How is this possible? -[[User:Federationrulz|Federationrulz]] 15:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's not, it's effectively the endoskeleton of an TOS/Razor/Museum Centurion- a very basic prototype-- [[User:Enlightened Bystander|Enlightened Bystander]] 20:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Probable transmission date? ==

So, basically, I visited Bear McCreary's blog and read the latest entry in which he drops information on the soundtrack to the pilot as well as a link to the Amazon page. I'm not going to endanger my wit by paraphrasing it, so I'm just going to quote the highlight of '''Production Description''' section:

:''This 2-hour event will air on SyFy Channel later this fall and will premiere as a brand-new SyFy Channel television series in January 2010. Caprica premieres as new SyFy television series January 2010.''

Cut the the point - can this be taken as a reliable source to which we can cite so much as a rough airdate? Or shall I answer my own question and assume we are going to hold back until something more solid and official-like seeps to the surface? --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 13:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

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'''''[[Каприка]]''''' - приквел к сериалу [[Звездный Крейсер Галактика|Звёздный Крейсер «Галактика»]]. Ещё до премьеры названный «Первой телевизионной научно-фантастической семейной сагой». В сериале нашли отражение и современные политические явления, например, такие как терроризм, религиозный фундаментализм и др.
Премьера [[пилот (эпизод)|пилотной]] серии состоялась 21 Апреля 2009 года на DVD.
Первый эпизод сериала был показан на канале [[SyFy]] 29 января 2010 года.
Российская премьера сериал состоялась 9 апреля 2010 года на телеканале [[SyFy Universal]]

==Обзор==

В отличие от Звездного Крейсера Галактика, в котором было уделено внимание космическим битвам и выживанию горстки людей, преследуемых Сайлонами, Каприка сконцентрировалась на отображении семейных взаимоотношений на фоне несчастья - гибели членов семьи. В этом сериале показаны иные реалии: политика, религия, семейная психология, юношеский максимализм и многие другие проблемы, с которыми сталкивается любое развитое современное общество.

== Сюжет ==

[[Двенадцать Колоний Кобола]]. Планета [[Каприка (планета)|Каприка]]. 58 лет до разрушения. Религиозный фанатизм свёл судьбы семей Адама и Грэйстоун. Объединённые горем потери своих дочерей, видный адвокат [[Джозеф Адама]] и богатый технолог [[Дэниел Грэйстоун]] едва находят в себе силы жить. В отчаянии Даниэль отдаёт все силы на благо его развитой промышленной компании для достижении одной цели: вернуть свою дочь, а заодно и дочь Джозефа, к жизни. После экспериментов, давших потрясающие прорывы в робототехнике, и сомнительного поворота в поведении искусственного интеллекта, Джозеф становится непримиримым противником пути, избранного Дэниелом.

==Развитие проекта==

==Актерский состав==

* [[Эрик Штольц]] - [[Дэниел Грэйстоун]]
* [[Пола Малкомсон]] - [[Аманда Грэйстоун]]
* [[Алессандра Торресани]] - [[Зоуи Грэйстоун]]
* [[Исай Моралес]] - [[Джозеф Адама]]
* [[Саша Ройз]] - [[Сэм Адама]]
* [[Магда Апанович]] - [[Лэйси Рэнд]]
* [[Полли Уокер]] - [[Клариса Уиллоу]]

==Ссылки==

[[Категория:Сериалы]]

Caprica (series)

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{{disline|For information on the colony in the [[Re-imagined Series]], see [[Caprica (RDM)]]. For other uses, see [[Caprica]].}}

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| title= Caprica
| creator= [[Ronald D. Moore]] [[Remi Aubuchon]]
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| composer= [[Bear McCreary]]
| company= [[w:NBC Universal|NBC Universal]]
| seasons= 1
| episodes= 18<ref group="footnotes" name="caprica_episodes">This number includes the 2-hour pilot, with 17 regular-length episodes.</ref>
| episodelistid= Caprica
| channel= [[Sci Fi Channel]]
| US airdate= 2010-2011<ref group="production" name="pilot_dvd_release_advance">The two-hour pilot episode was released in advance of the series premiere on 21 April 2009.</ref>
| UK airdate= Spring 2009<ref group="external" name="sky_uk_rights_exclusive">{{cite_news|first=Chris|last=Aylott|url=http://www.skypressoffice.co.uk/SkyOne/news/showarticle.asp?id=2528&month=8&year=2008#:~:text=Sky1%20secures%20exclusive%20UK%20rights|title=Sky1 secures exclusive UK rights to Battlestar Galactica prequel CAPRICA|publisher=|page=|date=6 August 2008|accessdate=9 August 2008|language=|archive=Y}}</ref>
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| exec producer= [[Ronald D. Moore]] [[David Eick]] [[Remi Aubuchon]] (pilot only) [[Jane Espenson]] (starting with "[[Rebirth]]") [[Kevin Murphy]] (starting with "[[Unvanquished]]")
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'''''Caprica''''' is a television [[spin-off]] of the [[Re-imagined Series]] produced by [[Remi Aubuchon]], [[Ronald D. Moore]] and [[David Eick]] for [[Syfy]]. It is a [[Wikipedia:Prequel|prequel]] that focuses on the Adama and [[Graystones|Graystone]] families on the planet {{RDM|Caprica}} and the invention of the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. The [[Caprica_pilot|pilot]] is set 58 years before the ''Battlestar Galactica'' [[Miniseries]] and was released direct to DVD on 21 April 2009. The series was canceled after one season on 27 October 2010, with the remaining episodes airing first on Canada's Space channel and then on Syfy in a marathon on 4 January 2011.<ref group="external" name="ryan_caprica_canceled_syfy">{{cite_news|first=Maureen|last=Ryan|url=http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/10/27/caprica-canceled#:~:text=Caprica%20Is%20Cancelled%20by%20Syfy|title='Caprica' Is Cancelled by Syfy|publisher=TV Squad|page=|date=27 October 2010|accessdate=28 October 2010|language=English|archive=Y}}</ref>

==Production History==
===Development===
Development of ''Caprica'' began as early as the [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2005-06 season]] of ''[[Re-Imagined Series|Battlestar Galactica]]'' according to an IFmagazine interview<ref group="development" name="ifmagazine_eick_caprica_development_early">{{cite_web|url=http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=1487#:~:text=David%20Eick%20interview|title=David Eick Interview|publisher=IF Magazine|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> with producer [[David Eick]]. About the same time, ''[[Wikipedia: 24 (TV series|24]]'' writer [[Remi Aubuchon]] pitched a series to the [[Sci Fi Channel]] similar to the Cylon storyline. Realizing that they could not devote their full time to both ''Battlestar Galactica'' and a spinoff, Eick and [[Ronald D. Moore]] decided to team with Aubuchon: "We took some of what we had and some of what he had".

In a May 2006 interview<ref group="development" name="scifipulse_aubuchon_dreamwatch_slavery_robots">{{cite_web|url=http://scifipulse.net/battlestarnews/RemiAubuchon.html#:~:text=allegorical%20story%20about%20slavery%20with%20robots|title=Remi Aubuchon Dreamwatch Interview|publisher=Sci Fi Pulse|date=May 2006|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> with Dreamwatch Magazine, Remi Aubuchon stated that he originally pitched a series that was an "allegorical story about slavery with robots" when approached by Moore and Eick. Aubuchon elaborated on details about the ''Battlestar'' spinoff, saying that [[William Adama]] would be 11 years old when the series begins. Aubuchon described the series as meant to stand on its own from ''Battlestar Galactica'', but that "certain elements have been embedded into the first few episodes of [[Season 3 (2006-07)|season 3]]" of the current series.

On November 6, 2006, Moore updated Dreamwatch magazine regarding the new series:

:"It's actually a prequel, and this would be a one hour pilot not a mini – series. It takes place 50 years before the events of ''Battlestar Galactica'' and it's essentially about the creation of the Cylons.

:"It's a very different show; it's not action – adventure and it's not even in space. It takes place on the Planet (sic) Caprica and it's more of a family drama, with political and corporate intrigue. We're well into the writing of it actually; we're doing re-writes on the script right now and Sci Fi has been very happy so far. At the moment, we're just waiting to see if they greenlight it or not. Generally, there's always a two step process: there's ordering the pilot and then there's ordering the series, but because we're not designing it as a mini – series, I don't know that anybody would even see the pilot if they chose not to go to series with it.

:"Tonally, it will be very different," promises Moore. "This is Caprica before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|fall]]. It's a decadent world, but also a world that's going at a very fast pace. It's a prosperous society that hasn't experienced the devastation of the first Cylon war yet, so this culture has really not been taken down a peg, and their hubris is getting the better of them. It's a go – go society that's teetering on the brink, so it's not that apocalyptic survival scenario of ''Galactica''. The whole thing is tonally very different." <ref group="development" name="cullen_moore_caprica_progress_report">{{cite_news|first=Ian M. |last=Cullen|url=http://scifipulse.net/battlestarnews/RDM_Caprica_Update.html#:~:text=Ron%20D.%20Moore%20Gives%20Progress%20Report,-For%20Caprica|title=Ron D. Moore Gives Progress Report For Caprica|publisher=Sci Fi Pulse|page=|date=6 November 2006|accessdate=10 November 2006|language=English}}</ref>

===Development Hell===
By 26 April 2006, development of ''Caprica'' had stalled and the series was considered to be stuck in [[w:development hell|"development hell"]]. On 24 March 2007, Moore discussed the status of ''Caprica'' with Salon.com's Laura Miller:

:"It's possible [that the series will still happen]. It's been in development at Sci Fi for a while and they haven't picked it up. And I don't know if they're going to pick it up at this point. There's talk of doing it as a TV movie and seeing how that works, as a back-door pilot, much as we did with the "Galactica" [[miniseries]]. Right now there's nothing telling me that they're going to move on it anytime soon, so I'm starting to feel that it's going to remain on the development shelf.

:"It was a different kind of show. Instead of an action-adventure sci-fi piece, it was more of a prime-time soap, a sci-fi "[[w:Dallas (TV series)|Dallas]]." It was about a family, the Adamas, and [[Graystones|a company]], and it was about the creation of the Cylons 50 years ago. It was not going to be space-based, but set entirely on the planet of Caprica. But it would have sci-fi touches, and it would deal with issues like artificial intelligence and the various schemings and backbitings that you get in the traditional soap opera."<ref group="development" name="miller_moore_battlestar_galactica_man_behind">{{cite_news|first=Laura|last=Miller|url=http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2007/03/24/battlestar/index2.html#:~:text=The%20man%20behind%20%E2%80%9CBattlestar%20Galactica%E2%80%9D|title=The man behind "Battlestar Galactica"|publisher=Salon.com|page=3|date=24 March 2007|accessdate=25 April 2007|language=}}</ref>

On 18 September 2007, it was reported that with the end of ''Battlestar Galactica'' nearing and Moore poised to leave Sci Fi for [[Wikipedia: NBC|NBC]], Sci Fi executives were considering green-lighting the two-hour pilot for production as a means of keeping Moore with the channel. Contingent on the performance of the television movie "[[Razor]]," it was reported that ''Caprica'' might also see a release in the form of a direct-to-DVD movie to be simultaneously aired on television <ref group="development" name="hibberd_scifi_executives_weigh_battlestar">{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/09/sci_fi_executives_weigh_battle.php#:~:text=Sci%20Fi%20Executives%20Weigh%20%E2%80%98Battlestar%20Galactica%E2%80%99%20Options|title=Sci Fi Executives Weigh 'Battlestar Galactica' Options|date=September 18, 2007|accessdate=September 18, 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=English|archive=Y}}</ref>. Following the [[WGA strike]], television networks were scrambling to stockpile finished scripts for various productions, placing the finished pilot script for ''Caprica'' as a front runner for production.<ref group="development" name="scifi_stockpiling_writers_strike">{{cite_web|url=http://www.syfyportal.com/news424175.html#:~:text=SciFi%20Channel%20Stockpiling%20For%20Writers%20Strike|title=SciFi Channel Stockpiling For Writers Strike|date=September 20, 2007|accessdate=September 20, 2007|archive=Y}}</ref>

===Production===
On 18 March 2008, the Sci Fi Channel officially announced the [[Wikipedia: Green-light|green-lighting]] of a two-hour [[Wikipedia: Television_pilot#Backdoor_pilots|backdoor pilot]] for ''Caprica'' to be produced that Spring. The teaming of Moore, Eick and Aubuchon was confirmed by the press release, the pilot's director, ''[[Wikipedia: Friday Night Lights (TV Series)|Friday Night Lights]]'' veteran [[Jeffrey Reiner]] was also announced. <ref group="production" name="ryan_battlestar_prequel_friday_night_lights">{{cite_news|first=Maureen|last=Ryan|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/03/battlestar-ga-1.html#:~:text=Battlestar%20Galactica%20prequel%20has%20Friday%20Night%20Lights%20connection|title='Battlestar Galactica' prequel has 'Friday Night Lights' connection|publisher=Chicago Tribune|page=|date=18 March 2008|accessdate=18 March 2008|language=English}}</ref>

In April of 2008, character breakdowns were issued to casting agents describing [[Daniel Graystone]], [[Joseph Adams]], [[Amanda Graystone]], Sister [[Clarice Willow]], [[William Adams]] and [[Zoe Graystone]].<ref group="production" name="mcduffee_caprica_casting_info_exclusive">{{cite_news|first=Keith|last=McDuffee|url=http://www.aoltv.com/2008/04/03/exclusive-caprica-casting-info-revealed/#:~:text=Exclusive%3A%20Caprica%20casting%20info%20revealed|title=Exclusive: Caprica casting info revealed|publisher=Huffpost TV|page=|date=3 April 2008|accessdate=3 April 2008|language=English|archive=Y}}</ref> On 7 May 2008, [[Esai Morales]] and [[Paula Malcomson]] were announced in the roles of Joseph Adams and Amanda Graystone,<ref group="production" name="nordy_caprica_morales_board_scifi">{{cite_news|first=Kimberly|last=Nordy|url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/caprica-one-morales-board-sci-111080#:~:text=Caprica%20one%3A%20Morales%20on%20board%20for%20Sci%20Fi%20spinoff|title='Caprica' one: Morales on board for Sci Fi spinoff|publisher=The Hollywood Reporter|date=7 May 2008|accessdate=29 November 2012}}</ref> 12 May 2008 [[Eric Stoltz]] was announced in the role of Daniel Graystone.<ref group="production" name="ew_stoltz_battlestar_galactica_prequel">{{cite_news|url=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20199223,00.html#:~:text=Stoltz%20in%20%E2%80%98Battlestar%20Galactica%E2%80%99%20Prequel|publisher=Entertainment Weekly|title=Stoltz in 'Battlestar Galactica' Prequel|date=12 May 2008}}</ref> On 19 May 2008, [[Wikipedia: TVGuide|TVGuide]] revealed [[Polly Walker]] had been cast as Clarice Willow, describing the character as "one twisted sister."<ref group="production" name="tvguide_caprica_casts_polly_walker_twisted">{{cite_news|url=http://www.tvguide.com/news/Caprica-Casts-Polly-11835.aspx#:~:text=Caprica%20Casts%20Polly%20Walker%20as%20One%20Twisted%20Sister|title=Caprica Casts Polly Walker as One Twisted Sister|publisher=TVGuide|date=19 May 2008}}</ref>

By Summer 2008, ''Caprica'' had begun principal photography, with photos of a [[Wikipedia: Vancouver, British Columbia|Vancouver, British Columbia]] restaurant dressed as a Caprican-[[Gemenon|Gemenese]] cafe appearing online on 18 June 2008. <ref group="production" name="thirteenth_colony_hungry_caprican_food">{{cite_news|url=http://13thcolony.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/hugnry-for-caprican-food/#:~:text=Hungry%20for%20Caprican%20Food%3F|title=Hungry for Caprican Food?|publisher=The 13th Colony|date=18 June 2008|archive=Y}}</ref>

====Music====
Composer [[Bear McCreary]] approached the ''Caprica'' score with the goal of creating a sound that was "as different from ''Battlestar Galactica'' as possible" while still honoring the connection between the series.<ref group="production" name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot">{{cite_web|url=https://bearmccreary.com/caprica-pilot/#:~:text=as%20different%20from%20Battlestar%20Galactica%20as%20possible|title=Caprica: Pilot|author=Bear McCreary|publisher=Bear McCreary|date=22 January 2010|accessdate=6 August 2025}}</ref> McCreary eliminated the "urgent, tribal, primitive and mystical elements" that characterized ''Battlestar Galactica'', instead employing what he called "backwards logic" to make ''Caprica'' more "normal" by using an intimate, contemporary chamber orchestra.<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" /> The score was recorded at the [[Wikipedia:Warner Bros.|Warner Bros.]] Eastwood Scoring Stage in January 2009.<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" />

Director [[Jeffrey Reiner]] praised McCreary's work, recalling: <ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" />

:"Bear sent me very complete demos against picture that worked great. But it wasn't until I sat in the scoring stage at Warner Bros., and heard the maestro conduct his orchestra, that I was blown away."

McCreary's harmonic language for ''Caprica'' was "far more lyrical and rich than the simple drones and dissonant clusters" of ''Battlestar Galactica''.<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" /> The composer noted that ''Caprica'' had such an influence on his work that when he began scoring the ''Battlestar Galactica'' finale "[[Daybreak]]" within days of finishing ''Caprica'', he applied the same lush orchestral sensibilities, calling it "the best score of my ''Battlestar'' career."<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" />

The score centered around two main family themes: the Graystone Theme, which McCreary described as the "de facto ''Caprica'' theme," and the Tauron Theme, which connected [[Joseph Adama]] to his ancestral heritage and the [[Ha'la'tha|Tauron mob]].<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" /> McCreary also composed specific musical motifs for individual characters, including Amanda's Theme (featuring [[Chris Bleth]] on English Horn), Zoe's Chords (a progression that connected key scenes involving [[Zoe Graystone]]'s avatar), and the Daniel Ostinato (representing Daniel's growing obsession with resurrecting his daughter).<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" />

The score incorporated limited references to ''Battlestar Galactica'', most notably the appearance of "Wander My Friends" (the [[Adama Family Theme]]) when Joseph tells his son Willie of their true Tauron surname. McCreary hoped this musical connection would make audiences remember Lee, Kara, and Roslin while watching the scene, creating an emotional bridge between the series.<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" /> For scenes featuring the [[U-87 Cyber Combat Unit|U-87 Cylon prototype]], McCreary brought back the ethnic percussion ensemble from ''Battlestar Galactica'', but kept the cues intentionally small and raw to represent "prototype ''Battlestar'' music."<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" />

McCreary's long-term vision was for the ''Caprica'' score to "slowly devolve from the crisp, classical chamber orchestra" toward the "tribal percussion and ethnic soloists of ''Battlestar''" over the course of several seasons, so that "the last episode of ''Caprica'' may have a soundtrack that sounds like the first episode of ''Galactica''."<ref name="mccreary_blog_caprica_pilot" />

===Series===
On December 1, 2008, Sci Fi Channel officially announced that Caprica was picked up for a 20-episode first season. According to the press release, production on additional episodes was to begin Summer 2009 with an expected premiere of early 2010.<ref group="production" name="frankel_scifi_greenlights_battlestar_prequel">{{cite_news|first=Daniel|last=Frankel|url=http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117996647?refCatId=1236#:~:text=Sci%20Fi%20greenlights%20%E2%80%98Battlestar%E2%80%99%20prequel|title=Sci Fi greenlights 'Battlestar' prequel|publisher=Variety|date=1 December 2008}}</ref> The following month, on 23 January 2009, veteran ''Battlestar Galactica'' writers [[Michael Taylor]] and [[Ryan Mottesheard]] joined the growing behind-the-scenes staff of ''Caprica'', along with composer [[Bear McCreary]], production designer [[Richard Hudolin]], and VFX supervisor [[Gary Hutzel]]. [[Jane Espenson]] was also announced as show runner, taking over for Ronald D. Moore following the writing staff's assembly the following February.<ref group="production" name="ryan_battlestar_veterans_move_caprica">{{cite_news|first=Maureen|last=Ryan|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/caprica-battlestar-galactica-jane-espenson.html#:~:text=Battlestar%20Galactica%20veterans%20move%20on%20to%20Caprica|title='Battlestar Galactica' veterans move on to 'Caprica'|publisher=Chicago Tribune|date=23 January 2009}}</ref>

The DVD of the two-hour pilot episode was released on 21 April 2009, selling 130,220 units totaling $2,527,570 in its first week in stores. <ref group="external" name="numbers_caprica_dvd_sales_first_week">{{cite_web|url=http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2009/0CAPR-DVD.php#:~:text=130%2C220%20units%20totaling%20%242%2C527%2C570|title=Caprica DVD Sales Data|publisher=The Numbers|accessdate=2024}}</ref> The episode received generally positive reviews, with [[Wikipedia: Wired|Wired.com]] praising all aspects of the production, despite its "somewhat sluggish start".<ref group="external" name="wired_caprica_review_sluggish_start_positive">{{cite_web|url=http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/04/review-caprica/#:~:text=somewhat%20sluggish%20start|title=Review: Caprica|publisher=Wired|date=April 2009|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

On 27 April 2009, [[Wikipedia: E! Entertainment|E! Entertainment]] reported that production on ''Caprica'' would begin in Vancouver in July 2009 with a "rigorous" eight month shooting schedule.<ref group="production" name="eonline_caprica_filming_vancouver_rigorous_schedule">{{cite_web|url=http://www.eonline.com/news/120727/caprica-filming-in-vancouver#:~:text=rigorous%20eight%20month%20shooting%20schedule|title=Caprica Filming in Vancouver|publisher=E! Online|date=27 April 2009|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> The following day, [[Wikipedia: The Hollywood Reporter|The Hollywood Reporter]] announced that [[Sasha Roiz]]'s supporting role as [[Sam Adama]] had been upgraded to series regular. <ref group="production" name="hollywoodreporter_roiz_expands_role_series_regular">{{cite_web|url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sasha-roiz-expands-role-sci-83085#:~:text=upgraded%20to%20series%20regular|title=Sasha Roiz Expands Role|publisher=The Hollywood Reporter|date=28 April 2009|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

While the pilot episode was shot primarily on location in Vancouver, production of regular episodes required the construction of new sets. Sets representing the [[Graystone Estate]] and the Adama Family's [[Little Tauron]] apartment were built on a soundstage, replicating the real locations used previously.<ref group="production" name="hitfix_caprica_set_visit_soundstage_construction">{{cite_web|url=http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/the-fien-print/posts/set-visit-syfy-s-caprica#:~:text=built%20on%20a%20soundstage|title=Set Visit: Syfy's Caprica|publisher=HitFix|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref>

On 24 July 2009, Sci Fi Channel (now Syfy) issued a press release stating ''Caprica'' would premiere on 22 January 2010.<ref group="production" name="chicagotribune_caprica_gets_release_date_january">{{cite_web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/07/caprica-gets-a-release-date.html#:~:text=premiere%20on%2022%20January%202010|title=Caprica Gets a Release Date|publisher=Chicago Tribune|date=24 July 2009|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> Two days later at the 2009 [[Wikipedia: San Diego Comic Con|San Diego Comic Con]], a panel comprised of Executive Producers Ronald D. Moore, David Eick and Jane Espenson as well as ''Caprica'' star Esai Morales and ''Battlestar Galactica'' star [[Edward James Olmos]] discussed the series.<ref group="external" name="chicagotribune_battlestar_caprica_comic_con_panel">{{cite_web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/06/battlestar-caprica-middleman-san-diego-comiccon.html#:~:text=Comic%20Con%20panel|title=Battlestar Caprica Comic Con Panel|publisher=Chicago Tribune|date=26 July 2009|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> At the panel, Espenson discussed her desire to bring "dark humor" to ''Caprica'' and the forthcoming television movie ''[[The Plan]]''.<ref group="external" name="slashfilm_comic_con_battlestar_caprica_qa_dark_humor">{{cite_web|url=http://www.slashfilm.com/comic-con-battlestar-galactica-the-plan-and-caprica-qa/#:~:text=dark%20humor|title=Comic Con Battlestar Galactica and Caprica Q&A|publisher=SlashFilm|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref>

[[File:Caprica Promo Poster 5.jpg|thumb|[[Syfy Channel]]'s promotion of the series, featuring star [[Alessandra Torresani]] as an "Eve" using provocative "apple and Eve" imagery.]]

Syfy held press tours promoting its upcoming series, with several reporters visiting the sets of ''Caprica'' on 22 October 2009. The tour also included interviews with the cast as well as a glimpse at the practical [[U-87 Cyber Combat Unit|U-87 Cylon]] prop.<ref group="external" name="ugo_caprica_set_visit_practical_prop_u87">{{cite_web|url=http://www.ugo.com/tv/caprica-set-visit#:~:text=practical%20U-87%20Cylon%20prop|title=Caprica Set Visit|publisher=UGO|date=22 October 2009|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> VFX artist [[Doug Drexler]] elaborated on the construction of the U-87 prop in his blog saying, "Gary [Hutzel] knew that ''Caprica'' would have shots where the proto-Cylon would be deactivated and standing by. It made sense to have a real world version built for those, saving us from having to render and composite the CG version."<ref group="external" name="drexler_u87_keeping_it_real_blog">{{cite_web|url=http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/the-u-87-keeping-it-real/#:~:text=It%20made%20sense%20to%20have%20a%20real%20world%20version|title=The U-87: Keeping It Real|author=Doug Drexler|publisher=Drex Files Blog|date=11 October 2009|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref>

By November 2009, difficulties in the production of ''Caprica'' became public when Syfy's Mark Stern announced the series' episode order was reduced by one hour. Citing unexpected cost overruns, Stern said "We always knew it would be a challenge to bring it in on budget, and the deeper we got into it, the more we realized that if we [stuck to the budget too closely], it was not going to be satisfying." In order to reduce operating costs, a single episode was cut from the season. Show runner Jane Espenson also stepped down from her position but stayed on the writing staff. Former ''[[Wikipedia: Desperate Housewives|Desperate Housewives]]'' producer [[Kevin Murphy]] joined the staff as Executive Producer and show runner following the mid-season break. Stern attributed "creative growing pains associated with any first-year program" to the shakeup.<ref group="production" name="ign_caprica_episode_order_shortened_budget">{{cite_web|url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/11/13/capricas-episode-order-shortened#:~:text=episode%20order%20was%20reduced,-by%20one%20hour|title=Caprica's Episode Order Shortened|publisher=IGN|date=13 November 2009|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

Other difficulties apparently arose earlier during production of the series' fourth regular episode. In the [[Podcast:There is Another Sky|podcast commentary]] for the episode "[[There is Another Sky]]," David Eick stated that Syfy executives asked for additional visual effects to be added to existing and future episodes. This required the creation of new establishing shots depicting [[Caprica City]] and additional monies to be allocated to the series which had hitherto relied on minimal VFX.<ref group="production" name="syfy_caprica_episode105_commentary_vfx_establishing">{{cite_web|url=http://www.syfy.com/_cache/assets/assets/caprica_episode105_commentary.mp3#:~:text=additional%20visual%20effects|title=Caprica Episode 105 Commentary|publisher=Syfy|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref>

===Release===
Prior to airing regular episodes of ''Caprica'', Syfy released the pilot - edited from its DVD version for content - on [[Wikipedia: Hulu|Hulu]] and its own website for streaming. The multi-platform roll out garnered an estimated 1.5 million views before the series even premiered on televison.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_1_5_million_caprica_views_multiplatform">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/01/18/1-5-million-have-already-seen-caprica-is-that-a-good-thing-for-ratings/39244/#:~:text=1.5%20million%20views|title=1.5 Million Have Already Seen Caprica|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=18 January 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> Shortly thereafter, the two-hour pilot aired on Friday, 22 January on Syfy with additional visual effects and a re-shot sequence taking place at [[Atlas Arena]]. The episode was watched by 1.6 million households.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_caprica_premieres_1_6_million_households">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/01/25/caprica-premieres-to-1-6-million-viewers-on-syfy/40083/#:~:text=1.6%20million%20households|title=Caprica Premieres to 1.6 Million Viewers|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=25 January 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

Syfy and television ratings analysts speculated that soft viewership numbers for ''Caprica'' were a result of the pilot's mutli-platform release. The following week, however, the first new episode aired on 29 January to even lower ratings, reaching 1.4 million viewers.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_caprica_no_ratings_juggernaut_1_4_million">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/02/01/caprica-no-ratings-juggernaut/40776/#:~:text=1.4%20million%20viewers|title=Caprica: No Ratings Juggernaut|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=1 February 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> Despite the series' positive (if guarded) reviews<ref group="external" name="ew_caprica_recap_rebooting_reboot_positive">{{cite_web|url=http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/01/23/caprica-recap-rebooting-the-reboot/#:~:text=positive%20reviews|title=Caprica Recap: Rebooting the Reboot|publisher=Entertainment Weekly|date=23 January 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref>, questions quickly arose as to the longevity of ''Caprica''<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_syfy_long_haul_caprica_longevity">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/02/19/is-syfy-really-in-it-for-the-long-haul-with-caprica/42415/#:~:text=longevity%20of%20Caprica|title=Is Syfy Really In It for the Long Haul with Caprica?|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=19 February 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

With mild fluctuations from week to week, ''Caprica'' continued to under-perform in ratings. In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Syfy VP of Development Mark Stern was bullish about the series' chances for renewal, citing the DVR data as "promising".<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_caprica_ratings_stern_lipstick_dvr">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/03/15/caprica-ratings-syfys-mark-stern-tries-to-put-lipstick-on-the-pig/45088/#:~:text=DVR%20data%20as%20promising|title=Caprica Ratings: Syfy's Mark Stern Tries to Put Lipstick on the Pig|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=15 March 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

[[Ronald D. Moore]] noted that the studio gave them a hard time about the ratings all the way through, and attributed the issues with acquiring viewers to the continual changes and hoops they had to go through.<ref group="commentary" name="moore_sswa_studio_ratings_hard_time">{{cite book/sswa|688}}</ref>

On Friday, 24 March 2010, ''Caprica'' finished its first run of ten episodes before its mid-season hiatus. The "mid-season finale" "[[End of Line]]" was viewed by 1.1 million households - among the series' lowest-rated episodes to that point.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_caprica_nielsen_end_of_line_1_1_million">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/03/29/caprica-nielsen-ratings-for-end-of-the-line-mid-season-finale/46498/#:~:text=1.1%20million%20households|title=Caprica Nielsen Ratings for End of the Line|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=29 March 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> Nearly five months later on 21 July 2010, Syfy announced that ''Caprica'' would return to finish out its first season in January 2011.<ref group="external" name="dogponyshow_caprica_finish_season_january_2011">{{cite_web|url=http://dogponyshow.com/caprica-to-finish-season-one-in-january-2011-seriously-wtf/#:~:text=finish%20out%20its%20first%20season%20in%20January%202011|title=Caprica to Finish Season One in January 2011|publisher=Dog Pony Show|date=21 July 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> The delay caused both confusion and anger in fans, prompting producer David Eick to question the extended hiatus: "I've never understood the network programming rationale... I don't know why they shut the show down for as long as they did before bringing it back."<ref group="commentary" name="eick_dogponyshow_programming_rationale_hiatus_confusion">{{cite_web|url=http://dogponyshow.com/caprica-to-finish-season-one-in-january-2011-seriously-wtf/#:~:text=I%27ve%20never%20understood%20the%20network%20programming%20rationale|title=David Eick Questions Extended Hiatus|publisher=Dog Pony Show|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> On 23 July 2010, Ronald D. Moore stated that he "firmly" believed ''Caprica'' would receive a second season.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_moore_thinks_second_season_firmly">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/07/23/capricas-ronald-d-moore-thinks-show-will-get-a-second-season/58040/#:~:text=firmly%20believed%20Caprica%20would%20receive%20a%20second%20season|title=Caprica's Ronald D. Moore Thinks Show Will Get a Second Season|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=23 July 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> However, Moore later admitted that such comments stemmed from his frustration, and belief that, because they had "delivered the goods" by putting Syfy Channel on the map with the [[Re-imagined Series]], they earned the right to a second season for ''Caprica''.<ref group="commentary" name="moore_sswa_delivered_goods_earned_right">{{cite book/sswa|689}}</ref>

In response fan outcry, Syfy announced on 9 September 2010 that ''Caprica'' would return early - on 5 October 2010 - but at a new night (Tuesday) and time (10/9c): "We've been able to successfully re-work our schedule, and are thrilled to bring the show back during what is traditionally Syfy's most-watched time of the year".<ref group="external" name="tvguide_syfy_caprica_premiere_rework_schedule">{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvguide.com/News/Syfy-Caprica-Premiere-1022806.aspx#:~:text=successfully%20re-work%20our%20schedule|title=Syfy Caprica Premiere Schedule Rework|publisher=TV Guide|date=9 September 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

===Cancellation===
Despite Syfy's outward confidence in the series, ''Caprica'' returned to fewer viewers than ever; the first new episode in nearly eight months, "[[Unvanquished]]," being watched by fewer than 900,000 households.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_tuesday_cable_ratings_teen_mom_unvanquished">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/10/06/tuesday-cable-ratings-teen-mom-tops-caprica-returns-small-sons-of-anarchy-flat-despite-dish-network-stargate-universe-much-more/66996/#:~:text=fewer%20than%20900%2C000%20households|title=Tuesday Cable Ratings: Teen Mom Tops, Caprica Returns Small|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=6 October 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> The low ratings immediately prompted further speculation about the series' fate.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_bye_bye_caprica_speculation">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/10/06/bye-bye-caprica/67023/#:~:text=speculation%20about%20the%20series%27%20fate|title=Bye Bye Caprica|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=6 October 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> Theories about the show's imminent cancellation intensified when Syfy announced on 22 October 2010 that it was developing another, more action-oriented ''Battlestar Galactica'' prequel series, ''[[Blood and Chrome]]''.<ref group="external" name="tvbythenumbers_syfy_greenlights_blood_chrome_action_oriented">{{cite_web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/10/22/syfy-greenlights-battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome/69283/#:~:text=more%20action-oriented|title=Syfy Greenlights Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome|publisher=TV by the Numbers|date=22 October 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref> In an interview with Maureen Ryan, Mark Stern stressed that the development of ''Blood and Chrome'' did not mean ''Caprica'' would be ending, saying "I don't know the fate of ''Caprica'' yet, but, if anything, ''Blood & Chrome'' going to series would only be a great opportunity to pair it with something."<ref group="external" name="aoltv_stern_adama_blood_chrome_fate_pairing">{{cite_web|url=http://www.aoltv.com/2010/10/22/syfy-adama-blood-and-chrome/#:~:text=great%20opportunity%20to%20pair%20it%20with%20something|title=Syfy: Adama Blood and Chrome|publisher=AOL TV|date=22 October 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

Five days after the announcement of ''Blood and Chrome'', Syfy officially cancelled ''Caprica'' on 27 October 2010 after pulling episodes beginning with "[[Blowback]]" from its schedule (despite advertising to the contrary). Maureen Ryan concluded that "''Caprica'' "began full of promise and boasted a fine cast, but when it returned this fall with new episodes, it remained frustratingly incoherent... The series had some good moments and interesting ideas, but let's hope the ''Blood & Chrome'' project contains both thought-provoking concepts and visceral tension. The latter quality was notably lacking in ''Caprica''."<ref group="external" name="ryan_aoltv_caprica_canceled_incoherent_lacking">{{cite_web|url=http://www.aoltv.com/2010/10/27/caprica-canceled/#:~:text=frustratingly%20incoherent|title=Caprica Canceled|publisher=AOL TV|date=27 October 2010|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> Following the announcement, David Eick called the cancellation "unfortunate - though not surprising". <ref group="commentary" name="eick_ew_cancellation_unfortunate_not_surprising_expected">{{cite_web|url=http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/10/28/battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-david-eick/#:~:text=unfortunate%20-%20though%20not%20surprising|title=Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - David Eick|publisher=Entertainment Weekly|date=28 October 2010|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

In yet another press release, Syfy later stated that it would burn off the remaining five episodes of ''Caprica'' in a marathon set for January 2011. Canada's [[Wikipedia: Space (TV channel)|Space Channel]] continued airing episodes through 30 November 2010.<ref group="external" name="hitfix_syfy_january_burn_off_marathon_canada">{{cite_web|url=http://www.hitfix.com/articles/syfy-sets-january-caprica-burn-off#:~:text=marathon%20set%20for%20January%202011|title=Syfy Sets January Caprica Burn Off|publisher=HitFix|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref> The DVD release of "Season 1.5" - containing the unaired epiodes - was slated for a 21 December 2010 release.<ref group="external" name="buzzfocus_caprica_season_15_dvd_release_december">{{cite_web|url=http://www.buzzfocus.com/2010/10/28/caprica-season-15-dvd-release-date-announced/#:~:text=21%20December%202010%20release|title=Caprica Season 1.5 DVD Release Date Announced|publisher=Buzz Focus|date=28 October 2010|accessdate=2024|archive=Y}}</ref>

In a 15 November 2012 interview, David Eick - speaking about the recently premiered ''Caprica'' sequel ''Blood and Chrome'' elaborated on the series' connection to its predecessor. Along with other elements integrated into the sequel series as "Easter eggs," Eick stated that "We did ask Esai Morales, who played William Adama's father, to reprise his role, in some capacity, in a future episode."<ref group="commentary" name="eick_denofgeek_morales_reprise_role_future_easter_eggs">{{cite_web|url=http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome/23464/david-eick-sets-the-record-straight-on-battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome#:~:text=We%20did%20ask%20Esai%20Morales|title=David Eick Sets the Record Straight on Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome|publisher=Den of Geek|date=15 November 2012|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

== Plot summary==
''Caprica'' takes place 58 years before the ''Battlestar Galactica'' [[miniseries]] and the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. Conceived as "television's first science-fiction soap opera"<ref group="external" name="examiner_caprica_first_scifi_soap_opera_television">{{cite_web|url=http://www.examiner.com/article/caprica-tv-s-first-science-fiction-soap-opera#:~:text=television%27s%20first%20science-fiction%20soap%20opera|title=Caprica: TV's First Science Fiction Soap Opera|publisher=Examiner|accessdate=2024}}</ref>, the series follows two families - the [[Graystone]]s and the [[Adamas]] - living in the corrupt and decadent [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprican]] metropolis [[Caprica City]]. While the creation of the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] and the fall of Colonial society is the background for ''Caprica'', the series was compared by Ronald D. Moore to the nighttime soap ''[[Wikipedia: Dallas (TV series)|Dallas]]'' and by David Eick to the film ''[[Wikipedia: American Beauty (film)|American Beauty]]'' and centers more on its characters than science-fiction elements.<ref group="external" name="airlockalpha_mad_men_american_horror_emmys_character_focus">{{cite_web|url=http://airlockalpha.com/node/4840/node/2133/node/914/mad-men-american-horror-story-lead-emmys.html#:~:text=centers%20more%20on%20its%20characters|title=Mad Men, American Horror Story Lead Emmys|publisher=Airlock Alpha|accessdate=2024}}</ref>

The [[Caprica pilot|pilot episode]] establishes [[Daniel Graystone]] as the brilliant inventor of the early [[U-87 Cyber Combat Unit|Cylon]]s, mourning the loss of his teenage daughter, [[Zoe Graystone]], in a [[STO|terrorist]] attack. So distraught over Zoe's death, Graystone enlists the help of [[Joseph Adama]], a native-[[Tauron]] lawyer with ties to that world's [[Ha'la'tha|criminal organization]], to steal technology that would resurrect both men's daughters. Though the experiment seems to fail, Zoe is in fact reborn inside Graystone's Cylon prototype.

As it progresses, the series inter-cuts between the stories of the Graystones and the Adamas, as well as the terrorist organization - the [[Soldiers of the One]] - responsible for Zoe's death, and the Tauron mob - the [[Ha'la'tha]] - and the [[GDD|investigators]] pursuing both entities.

Though ''Caprica'' was cancelled during its first season, some connections were established between it and ''Battlestar Galactica'' and some character resolution was provided by a five minute epilogue set several years in the series' future.

==Cast==
===Stars===
[[File:Cap-cast.jpg|thumb|Season One cast photo, excluding Brian Markinson as Agent Durham.]]

* [[Eric Stoltz]] as [[Daniel Graystone]]
* [[Esai Morales]] as [[Joseph Adama]]
* [[Paula Malcomson]] as [[Amanda Graystone]]
* [[Alessandra Torresani]] as [[Zoe Graystone]]
* [[Magda Apanowicz]] as [[Lacy Rand]]
* [[ Polly Walker]] as Sister [[Clarice Willow]]
* [[Sasha Roiz]] as [[Sam Adama]]
* [[Brian Markinson]] as Special Agent [[Jordan Durham]]
* [[Avan Jogia]] as [[Ben Stark]] (3 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_jogia_episode_count_three_episodes">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2240326/#:~:text=3%20episodes|title=Avan Jogia Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
:''Jogia was credited as part of the main cast for the [[Caprica pilot|pilot]] only. Roiz and Markinson were both upgraded to series stars for the [[Rebirth|second episode]] of the series.''

===Co-stars===
* [[Jim Thomson]] as [[Serge]] (voice, 14 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_thomson_serge_voice_count_fourteen">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0861023/filmoseries#tt0799862#:~:text=14%20episodes|title=Jim Thomson Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[Sina Najafi]] as [[Willie Adama]] (10 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_najafi_willie_episode_count_ten">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1859748/filmoseries#tt0799862#:~:text=10%20episodes|title=Sina Najafi Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[Hiro Kanagawa]] as [[Cyrus Xander]] (13 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_kanagawa_xander_episode_count_thirteen">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437032/filmoseries#tt0799862#:~:text=13%20episodes|title=Hiro Kanagawa Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[Genevieve Buechner]] as [[Tamara Adams]] (8 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_buechner_tamara_episode_count_eight">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1068777/filmoseries#tt0799862#:~:text=8%20episodes|title=Genevieve Buechner Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[Teryl Rothery]] as [[Evelyn]] (8 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_rothery_evelyn_episode_count_eight">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0745186/filmoseries#tt0799862#:~:text=8%20episodes|title=Teryl Rothery Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[John Pyper-Ferguson]] as [[Tomas Vergis]] (6 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_pyper_ferguson_vergis_count_six">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0701561/filmoseries#tt0799862#:~:text=6%20episodes|title=John Pyper-Ferguson Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[Peter Wingfield]] as [[Gara Singh]] (6 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_wingfield_singh_episode_count_six">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935057/filmoseries#tt0799862#:~:text=6%20episodes|title=Peter Wingfield Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[Alex Arsenault]] as [[Philomon]] (5 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_arsenault_philomon_episode_count_five">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1604007/#:~:text=5%20episodes|title=Alex Arsenault Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)
* [[James Marsters]] as [[Barnabas Greeley]] (4 episodes<ref group="external" name="imdb_marsters_greeley_episode_count_four">{{cite_web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/#:~:text=4%20episodes|title=James Marsters Filmography|publisher=IMDb|accessdate=2024}}</ref>)

==Aborted Second Season==
As ''Caprica'' was cancelled during the airing of the second half of its first season, what is known about the planned second season comes from the first season finale, "[[Apotheosis (episode)|Apotheosis]]" and its epilogue, "[[Apotheosis (episode)#Epilogue: The Shape of Things to Come|The Shape of Things to Come]]," and from official statements by the production staff. While canonicity of information contained in such statements is uncertain, and developments in the series ''[[Blood and Chrome|Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome]]'' may contradict unaired ''Caprica'' plans, they represent what the producers considered "to have happened" as of the ''Caprica'' cancellation.

"The Shape of Things to Come" was filmed before word of ''Caprica'''s cancellation and represented a "sneak preview" of Season 2, set fives years after Season 1.

Statements by showrunner [[Kevin Murphy]] in DVD commentaries on Season 1.5 episodes (recorded before the cancellation) reveal a number of Season 2 plot points:
*Jordan Duram survived the sniper attack and would have left the [[GDD]] and become head of a group called the Caprica Legionnaires, dedicated to destroying the Cylons before they rose up and crushed their creators.
*Zoe-A, in her new skinjob body, would have joined the Caprica Legionnaires, keeping her nature a secret.
*Zoe would have met one of the [[Final Five]] in [[V-world]], providing her with an element needed to create her skinjob body.

On April 29, 2011, Murphy conducted an interview with the online fan publication ''The Caprica Times'', in which he revealed several more details:<ref group="commentary" name="murphy_caprica_times_exclusive_interview_season_two_details">{{cite_web|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111201212745/http://www.capricatimes.com/the-caprica-times-exclusive-interview-kevin-murphy#:~:text=The%20Caprica%20Times%20Exclusive%20Interview%3A%20Kevin%20Murphy|title=The Caprica Times Exclusive Interview: Kevin Murphy|publisher=The Caprica Times|date=29 April 2011|accessdate=2024}}</ref>
*Flashbacks would have revealed that the Graystones had difficulty overcoming the "uncanny valley" problem when creating Zoe's body, until 3 years after "Apotheosis," when Zoe noticed something strange that she followed through interlocking V-worlds "like the White Rabbit" until she came upon [[Galen Tyrol]] fishing at a beach. After Zoe explained who she was and why she was there, he gave her a fishing lure that turned out to be a piece of code crucial in completing her skinjob body.
*Duram becomes aware of Zoe's nature and keeps quiet in exchange for her assistance.
*No one in the ''Battlestar Galactica'' era is aware that Skinjob Zoe existed because her father went to such pains to keep her secret.
*Clarice Willow is a wanted terrorist as well as a Cylon rights activist and operator of a church in V-world where Cylons can go when they "power down".
*Lacy Rand is seen by Capricans as a crazy, "toaster-loving" leader keeping the peace on [[Gemenon (RDM)|Gemenon]] through her loyal Centurions, who follow her because a part of Zoe's "soul" has been imprinted on them.
*Circumstances force Clarice and Lacy into an "awkward marriage of convenience".
*[[Mother]] - leader of the [[Monotheist Church]] - is still alive and interested in returning to power. Daniel Graystone reluctantly allies with her against the Clarice/Lacy coalition, which causes problems between him and Zoe when the latter finds out, as Lacy is her "once and future BFF".
*[[Bill Adama]] grows up angry at being named for his dead older brother.
*Joseph Adama carries on an extramarital affair with [[Fidelia Fazekas]].
*Tamara Adama serves as the basis for the [[Number Eight]] model and Zoe the basis for the [[Number Six]] model. Murphy was unclear on this point, however, and recommended asking [[Jane Espenson]] or [[Michael Taylor]] for clarification.
**On May 5, 2011, Espenson confirmed on Twitter that the writers discussed this point, but it was not set in stone.<ref group="commentary" name="espenson_twitter_number_models_not_set_stone">{{cite_web|url=http://twitter.com/#!/JaneEspenson/status/66023637202903040#:~:text=not%20set%20in%20stone|title=Tweet by Jane Espenson|author=Jane Espenson|publisher=Twitter|date=5 May 2011|accessdate=2024}}</ref>.

== References ==

=== Footnotes ===
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=== Production History ===
{{reflist|group=production}}

=== Development and Creative Process ===
{{reflist|group=development}}

=== Commentary and Interviews ===
{{reflist|group=commentary}}

=== External Sources and Reviews ===
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Talk:Battlestar Galactica (TRS)/Archive 1

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I hear that NBC may be trying to make a spinoff of BSG, focused on either the Caprica resistance or on the crew of the Celestra research vessel (a third option of following the Pegasus crew was abandoned). Apparently, NBC is jealous of SciFi, and of RDM's unwillingness to bring BSG over to NBC. [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 01:02, 24 Jul 2005 (EDT)

: No the spin off is actually about the Adama's family on CAprica 40 years before the Re-imagined BSG took place, its about the family living in a very high technological world but then the cylons are created... and yeah... (gateworld article or something)

: Well, I guess I've heard of more short-sighted things... -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 10:28, 24 Jul 2005 (EDT)

: That kinda...doesn't make sense. They should just be happy that they get the money from the channel that they OWN. -- [[user:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 12:42, 24 Jul 2005 (EST)

::I think their reasoning is that if it were on NBC as opposed to SciFi, they'd get more viewers and thus more money - and if they had a show on each, then there'd be even more money than that. [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 22:13, 24 Jul 2005 (EDT)

:::I've got the theme songs of the first and second season, but don't know how to convert them into an .ogg file, can someone help? --[[User:Blacklight|Blacklight]]

::::I'm afraid that we aren't going to be able to use them, anyway. For one, we need to have permission to use them anyway; as of right now, both themes are available on the season 1 soundtrack, and were we to post them, we'd probably get in trouble for copyright infringement. Something that I seriously do not want to occur. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:50, 30 September 2005 (EDT)

:::::Ah alright, not a problem. --[[User:Blacklight|Blacklight]]

== sop vs. SOP ==

In the discussion of the doctor's smoking habit. RDM calls this "my one sop to the idea of an idealized society". Someone well-intentioned added the definition "[Standard Operating Procedure]" after "sop", probably after looking it up on an online dictionary. Unfortunately, this is incorrect. "sop" in this case does not refer to the abbreviation SOP, but to the word "sop: noun, 1. A piece of food soaked or dipped in a liquid. 2a. Something yielded to placate or soothe. b. A bribe."

I simply removed the bracketed addition.--[[User:Jasontondro|Jasontondro]] 15:19, 23 December 2005 (EST)

: You're right, but the funny part is, the second, "incorrect" context does actually "fit" as well. :) If you read it as ''"... my one Standard Operating Procedure to the idea..."'' you can hear the sarcasm. A little disjointed, but still. But yes, you are right, it should be "sop". -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 14:46, 16 February 2006 (EST)

== Caseless Ammo? ==
From the official statements: "[The bullets] are some sort of caseless ammunition." Hmmm. That would make [[Flight of the Phoenix|sabotaging the casing]] a little bit more difficult then, wouldn't it? Bah. This is why writers hate being pinned down by technical details. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:45, 16 February 2006 (EST)

Haha, this after showing us cased ammo for two seasons? They could've still had ammo sabotage with caseless ammo, though, it would have been spiking the propellant shroud of the shell. 10 minutes of research would've been enough to come up with that, if they'd bothered (I assume writers are at bare minimum as creative as myself ;) ). I think if they were too lazy to make up caseless round props for the episode, they shouldn't try to dance their way around what they chose to show. Maybe someone should drop RDM an email about something called "combustable casing". Since we don't see Vipers ejecting spent shells during gun operation, that's probably the best solution. Either that or they hold on to the empty shells, not really a good thing considering that means they'd hold on to a lot of heat from firing the guns and heat disappation is a pain in space. --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 15:19, 17 March 2006 (CST)

== Just so everyone knows.... ==

I am heavily working on the content of the page to format it with the Portal pages. Please do not revert my changes. Thank you!

== Crashdown/Billy Conspiracy ==

okay, what is the policy for removing characters from the stars/co-stars list? I noticed crashdown was removed and wondered if Billy should be as well. It seems like Billy has done more, but he is dead now.
--[[User:Aggie|Aggie]] 23:20, 23 March 2006 (CST)

:There is currently no clear distinction between recurring characters and guest stars. If you have anything in mind, I'd be very interested in hearing it. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 00:00, 24 March 2006 (CST)

== Update ==

I've updated the article to fit the current events of the show's history, which surprisingly had not been done to date. I'm wondering if the initial comments by RDM are a bit out of place here, so I will review them and consider how to mark them in the article with recent answers from the show, without deleting one word (it's too precious to see how far the show has come). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:19, 19 July 2006 (CDT)

== Navigation ==
Somebody has pointed out that this page really doesn't have much in the way of helping to navigate to the episodes. While I don't necessarily advocate a complete listing of all episodes ala [[MemoryAlpha:Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]], at the very least I'd think links to the season pages, the episode guide subportal, or relevent sections of the episode list might be useful for somebody just stumbling across the page who might want to find the episode guides. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:06, 9 December 2006 (CST)

== Infobox ==

I've added the {{tl|Series Data}} infobox, but I'm unsure about some of the parameters:
* '''episodes''': Since the full number of episodes is already known (74), I've used that. The (list) link doesn't list them all, however, as we don't know all of the titles yet.
* All of the '''producer'''s. I know RDM and Eick are exec producers, and [[Jane Espenson]] and [[Toni Graphia]]'s bios say they're co-exec producers (I've listed them as co-producers), but I haven't been able to find any other producer information.
* '''story editors''': Same story as the producers
* '''prev''':
** <code>(none)</code>: There are no other series in the same continuity (save [[Caprica (series)|Caprica]])
** [[SDS]]: The last BSG thing before RDM
** [[1980]]: The last pre-RDM series that actually ran
--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 08:42, 31 December 2007 (CST)
: Well, we already know the total number of episodes, so let's go with that, even if we don't have titles. For the producer thing, we'll have to review the credits on the DVDs, since producers have come and gone during the show's run. Same with the story editors. As for the previous box, I'm fine with the list that you've given. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 10:44, 31 December 2007 (CST)
::With that list I actually mean different options: for which one do we go? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:01, 31 December 2007 (CST)
:::None. I don't really see the point in prev/next for whole series in this universe, except for TOS/1980 maybe. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:08, 31 December 2007 (CST)
::::I suggest just adding a switch to the template that will remove the series chronology entirely for this entry, for aesthetic reasons, as it looks kind of funny the way it is now.--[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 15:23, 31 December 2007 (CST)
:::::Done. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 16:11, 31 December 2007 (CST)

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{{disline|This article refers to the 2003 re-imagined version of }}
Battlestar Galactica''. For information on the 1978 Original Series, see [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)]].

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{{Series Data
| image= Image lg bgcast.jpg
| title= Battlestar Galactica
| creator= [[Ronald D. Moore|ロナルド・D・ムーア]]
| starring= [[Edward James Olmos|エドワード・ジェームズ・オルモス]] [[Mary McDonnell|メアリー・マクドネル]] [[Katee Sackhoff|ケイティ・サッコフ]] [[Jamie Bamber|ジェイミー・バンバー]] [[James Callis|ジェームズ・キャリス]] [[Tricia Helfer|トリシア・ヘルファー]] [[Grace Park|グレイス・パーク]]
| composer= [[Bear McCreary|ベア・マクレアリー]]
| company= [[w:NBC Universal|NBC Universal]]
| seasons= 4
| episodes= 74
| episodelistid=The Re-imagined Series
| channel= [[Sci Fi Channel]] and [[Sky One]]
| US airdate= 2003-12-08
| UK airdate= 2004-02-17
| dvd= 2005-03-28
| exec producer= [[Ronald D. Moore|ロナルド・D・ムーア]] [[David Eick|デイビッド・エイック]]
| producer=
| supervising producer=
| associate producer=
| co-producer= [[Jane Espenson]] [[Toni Graphia]]
| story editor=
| prev=
| next=
| itunes=
}}

==概要==
2003年、『バトルスター・ギャラクティカ』は21世紀の[[Naturalistic science fiction|より現代の感性]]に合わせた"[[Wikipedia:Reboot (continuity)|リ・イマジニング]]"あるいは、[[Original Series|オリジナル・シリーズ]]のアップデートとしてミニシリーズとして登場した。人民権、サバイバル、テロリズム、信仰の問題をテーマに、''Battlestar Galactica''は生き残った50,000人以下の人類を描いたドラマである。この新しい『バトルスター』は『新スタートレック』、『スタートレック：ディープ・スペース・ナイン』の元脚本家兼プロデューサーの[[Ron D. Moore|ロナルド・D・ムーア]]の企画から始まり、[[David Eick|デイビッド・エイック]]が共同制作を務めた。

懐かしくも全く異なる[[Galactica type battlestar|バトルスター]] ''[[Galactica (TRS)|ギャラクティカ]]''は避難民の[[The Fleet (RDM)|f船団]]を率いて、崩落した[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol|コボルの12コロニー]]を離れ（[[Home, Part II|逸話とされている]]）[[Earth (RDM)|地球]]を目指して旅立つ。だが船団内の混乱や外部からの脅威が待ち受けていた。

『バトルスター・ギャラクティカ』は2003年後半に４時間のミニシリーズ・パイロット版として始まった。オリジナル・シリーズと同じく物語は[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol|12コロニー]]の崩落から始まるが、今日の視聴者にとってより身近で現実的な描写になっている。多くの視聴者はアメリカの[[w:September 11, 2001|2001年9月11日のテロ攻撃]]時の混沌とした報道を思い起こさせた。

バトルスター・ギャラクティカのデザインはオリジナルと類似しているが、多くの部分が変更されている。ウィリアム・アダマ艦長は戦闘経験豊富で宗教とは縁のない人物で彼と[[Cylon War|数々の戦闘]]を潜り抜けてきた老朽艦は退役を明日に控えていた。オリジナル・シリーズのキャラクターの名前はコールサインに変更されアダマの息子は[[Lee Adama|リー・"アポロ"・アダマ]]、優秀だが問題の多いパイロットの[[Kara Thrace|カーラ・"スターバック"・スレイス]]。スターバックは女性キャラクターに変更され、当初はオリジナル・シリーズのファンはこれらの変更点には懐疑的であった。

しかし、多くのファンが新シリーズのクォリティーの高さに驚かされた。オリジナル・シリーズと異なり [[Season 4|最終シーズンとなるシーズン４]]まで続いただけでなく、エミー賞、ピーボディ賞、サターン賞、ヒューゴー賞など数多くの賞に受賞、ノミネートされた。番組の人気からスピンオフ・シリーズの『[[Caprica (series)|カプリカ]]』も制作された。さらに、世界中で人気を獲得している。

== Series development ==

After the miniseries, the regular series itself was not immediately approved due to financial considerations. Initially, Universal Studios and Sci Fi Channel both deemed that the series was unaffordable, despite [[David Eick]]'s and David Kissinger's attempts to secure funding for the series. Fortuitously, the UK network [[Sky One]] was looking to fund "high-profile American shows," "ultimately making up the difference between what Universal felt it could afford and what we needed to make the show," according to Eick.<ref name="pg 41">{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=41|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>

Once funding was secured, the official announcement for the series' launch was given on 10 February 2004.<ref name="pg 41"/> Moore, a majority of the production staff, as well as every principal cast member from the miniseries returned to work on the series. Moore also hired the show's writing staff, including [[Toni Graphia]], [[David Weddle]], [[Bradley Thompson]], and [[Carla Robinson]]. <ref>{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=41-43|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>

Principal shooting on the [[Season 1 (2004-05)|first season]] was from 19 April to 15 September 2004, with each episode taking eight days to shoot. In an interesting twist, the series was first broadcast on a European network, Sky One, between 18 October 2004 to 24 January 2005.<ref>{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=43|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref> As part of the funding agreement, Sky One was given the opportunity to play the new series first, leaving Americans to wait several months before the series would debut in the Americas.

== Noted changes from the [[Original Series]] ==
The basic story is still present: robotic [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] conduct a [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|surprise attack on the Colonies]], thus forcing several stranded spaceships to coalesce around the last surviving [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]], ''{{RDM|Galactica}}'', to seek a mythical [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] where the survivors hope to find shelter from the Cylons.

Many of the fine details changed from the Original Series.

* The Cylons were created by humanity itself and not by a {{TOS|Cylons|separate alien race}}.<ref>This shift in antagonists mirror similar dystopian man/machine stories found in such popular films as the ''[[Wikipedia:The Terminator|Terminator]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:The Matrix|The Matrix]]'' movie series.</ref>
* ''Galactica'' is a 50 year old relic on the verge of decommission.
* The names of "Apollo," "Boomer," and "Starbuck" are changed to call signs. Most characters have standard first and last names; some first names were not given until later in the series, such as [[Felix Gaeta|Felix Gaeta's]] or [[Anastasia Dualla|Anastasia Dualla's]].
* The futuristic (and often confusing) terminology used to denote units of measurement, such as distance and time, in the Original Series has been replaced with understandable terminology, such as "year" and not "[[yahren]]".
* The ship designs, save for some revisions to the [[Viper Mark II]] and ''{{RDM|Galactica}}'' and a few noteworthy background ships (such as the ''[[Astral Queen]]'' and the [[Botanical Cruiser]]), have been redone.
* The government of the Colonies resembles the United States' democratic republic, with a president, vice president, and secretaries. The [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] appears later, revised as a senatorial body, in the episode "[[Colonial Day]]".
* Instead of the other-worldly, Egyptian-esque clothing and city designs (i.e. pyramids) seen in the Original Series, objects are more contemporary in design and function. Indeed, many aspects of contemporary society are very common throughout the new series.
* The [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)|religion]] for the Colonials revises the Lords of Kobol to be analogous in name to much of [[w:Greek mythology|the gods in real-world Greek mythology]], making the Colonial religion of the Re-imagined Series truly polytheistic (the Original Series' religion was more monotheistic as [[God (RDM)|God]] is referenced in tandem with the Lords of Kobol, who were more akin to [[w:saint|saints]].)
* The Cylons themselves [[Cylon Religion|celebrate a monotheistic religion]] with a deity similar to the God of the [[w:Abrahamic religion|Abrahamic religions]]. The Cylons and Colonials consider each other's religions to be false, reflecting the current Islam/Christianity/Judaism strife between the Western world and the Middle East.

Characters are altered significantly from the Original Series.

* {{TOS|Boomer}}, played by [[Herb Jefferson Jr.]], is now the callsign of a female, Lieutenant [[Sharon Valerii]] ([[Grace Park]]).
* {{TOS|Starbuck}}, played as a male character by [[Dirk Benedict]], is now the call-sign of a female lieutenant named {{callsign|Starbuck}} ([[Katee Sackhoff]]).
* "Adama," "Tigh," and "Baltar" are now surnames.
* The character of {{TOS|Adama}}, portrayed by [[Lorne Greene]] in the Original Series, becomes [[William Adama]] ([[Edward James Olmos]]). Adama's beliefs are far more secular than his Original Series counterpart.
* {{TOS|Apollo}}, portrayed by [[Richard Hatch]]in the Original Series, becomes the call sign of {{callsign|Lee Adama}} ([[Jamie Bamber]]).
* {{TOS|Baltar}}, who was willingly complicit in the destruction of the Colonies due to his thirst for power, became [[Gaius Baltar]], an arrogant scientific genius that is tricked into working with the Cylons.
* Colonel {{TOS|Tigh}}, portrayed by [[Terry Carter]] in the original series, becomes Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] ([[Michael Hogan]]), a grumpy alcoholic plagued by marital and psychological problems.

The show has taken a more realistic turn, scientifically.{{fact}} [[Science in the Re-imagined Series|Realistic science]], which was absent in the Original Series, is applied in this series as best as cinematic and storyline requirements permit.

Certain models of Cylons [[Humanoid Cylon|appear human, right down to the blood]], which generates some very disturbing problems in distinguishing friend from foe. This mirrors terrorist methods of infiltration and delivering destructive results to heavy population centers (akin to suicide bombers).

== Official Statements ==

* ''[[Ron D. Moore]] discusses using the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}} as a template:''

: I approached the original show and looked at what worked and what didn't work. I tried to keep as much of the original show as possible. I kept all the essential elements of ''Battlestar Galactica'': the aircraft-carrier-in-space; the rag-tag fleet; the Cylon attack, the escape and the search for Earth; Commander Adama; Adama's son "Apollo," who's ''Galactica'''s lead fighter pilot; the rogue pilot, "Starbuck"; their friend, "Boomer"; and Baltar, the traitor. Those were the main things I knew I had to keep – it wouldn't have been ''Battlestar Galactica'' without them.
: I changed the things I knew didn't work. The original {{TOS|Baltar}} didn't have a motivation for betraying his race<ref>Moore's statement is subjective. Some readers may feel that Baltar's motivations were power-based. By deliberately making a deal with the Cylons, he believed that the Cylons would spare his colony and subjugate the human species under him {{OS|Saga of a Star World}}.</ref>, so I knew I'd have to change that character. I also never understood why the Cylons were so intent on pursuing these humans across the galaxy<ref>For detail on the Original Series Cylons and their motivations, see [[Cylons (TOS)]].</ref>, so I changed the background of the Cylons and their relationship with the human beings. Making the Cylons the creation of humanity enabled the Cylons to have a much more complicated love/hate relationship with humans, and also provided us with a way to use humanoid Cylons in the series, which was something we knew we wanted to do because there would be limits on how much we could use CGI Cylons.
: {{TOS|Athena}} didn't seem to serve any function in the original show other than look beautiful and be a love interest for Starbuck, so I just got rid of that character.<ref>The series would transfer the daughter-figure aspects of the Original Series Athena to {{callsign|Starbuck}} and {{callsign|Athena}}, who [[Torn|later]] receives the callsign of "Athena."</ref> And while I thought {{TOS|Boxey}} was part of the family and decided it would be nice to [[Boxey (RDM)|include him in some peripheral way]],<ref>The character of Boxey in the Re-imagined Series was intended to be part of a family unit with [[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Sharon Valerii]], but a place for the character within story arcs were eventually dropped, and the character has essentially been dropped from the series.</ref> I never considered keeping [[Muffit|Boxey's dog]] for a second. The dog was just absurd! it was right out from the moment I took the show.<ref>{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=13-14|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>

* ''Moore discusses the religious aspects of the series:''
: The religious aspects of the show developed naturally out of my intention to reflect every aspect of the human experience. I was delighted because I'm fascinated with this notion of monotheism versus polytheism, and I felt its addition to the show enriched it and helped make it unique.<ref>{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=18-19|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>

* ''Moore discusses using the series as allegory to current events:''

: The original "[[MemoryAlpha:Star Trek: The Original Series|[Star] Trek]]" series ... dealt with a lot of hot-button issues at the time: It dealt with racism, and it dealt with war, and it dealt with a lot of ideas that were very, very timely and very important. And this was a chance to make a science fiction show that wasn't purely escapist, but actually dealt with the world that we live in.<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.thestreet.com/_tsclsii/funds/goodlife/10276628.html|title=Delve Into 'Battlestar Galactica'|date=5 April 2006|accessdate=9 Feburary 2007|last=Wolverton|first=Troy|format=|language=}}</ref>

* ''[[Jamie Bamber]] talks about the discussions that the cast and crew have regarding the show's content:''

: We discuss everything. We even do try to discuss the sci-fi techie stuff, but we're just not very good at it. When [[A Day in the Life|the script]] throws out something like [[Cally Tyrol|Callie]] [''sic''] and [[Galen Tyrol|the Chief]] in space without any protection, lots [of us discuss] around the set if that was really possible. In the end, we all bow down to the experts who tell us it is. That shuts us up very quick. The political stuff, that's the juice of the show with the cast. That's pretty much what we like to inhabit, those social-political dilemmas and what they mean morally and legally, and how they pertain to the world that we're in now. The interesting thing about this show is that a lot of people come up to me and say, "Is it really liberal, or something?" but everyone across the political spectrum can find a view that they can side with. We don't cast moral judgment on any of them. It is all shades of gray that are out there to be interpreted, and that's the beauty of the writing, I think.<ref name="TV Guide">{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Interviews-Features/Article/default.aspx?posting=%7BAC4FC1D4-115F-457C-8E4A-01A539D77D39%7D|title=''Galactica'''s Jamie Bamber Visits a Heavenly ''Ghost''|date=23 February 2007|accessdate=23 February 2007|last=Cohn|first=Angel|format=|language=}}</ref>

* ''Bamber discusses being sympathetic to the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]:''
: The Cylons do garner your empathy gradually, as you see more and more from their point of view. That's a bold move. There is a lot about them that should be sympathetic to a Western American audience. They are monotheists, they kind of believe in redemption and rebirth and all these things that a lot of us believe in. The humans are polytheists and are a bit more anachronistic.<ref name="TV Guide"/>

* ''[[Edward James Olmos]] discusses what the series is to him, referencing {{callsign|Athena}}'s birth of [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]:''
: No, I think it was [<nowiki></nowiki>{{callsign|Athena}}'s] [[Hera Agathon|baby]] that really pushed her to the point of being more human than android. The love of a child is really the premise of this story. [[William Adama|My [character's]]] love of my children, [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]]'s love of humanity — all of us are her children. I have my son [Major [[Lee Adama|Lee ''Apollo'' Adama]]], and of course I just [[Maelstrom|lost]] my [surrogate] daughter [Captain [[Kara Thrace|Kara ''Starbuck'' Thrace]]], which was brutal. <ref name="ew ejo">{{cite_web|url=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036782_20037403_20015932_2,00.html|title=Four-ward, Cylons: EDWARD JAMES OLMOS|date=|accessdate=31 May 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref>

* ''Moore discusses mapping out the series:''
: Each season, we mapped out where we wanted to go by the end of that season. That’s how I like to approach things. At the beginning of [[Season 1 (2004-05)|season one]], we talked about where the end of the first year would be. And then, into the [[Season 2 (2005-06)|second year]], we broke it up into groups of the first 10 and the second 10, and kept that style of planning, all through the show. I would say, somewhere mid-way through the second season, I started thinking seriously about what the end of the series itself might be. Ideas for where we were headed and what it all meant started to coalesce over the course of the third season. In season three, we started talking in earnest about, “Well, okay, if we do end it next year, what would it really be?,” and it just felt like, “Yeah, this is the right time to do it.” In terms of whether we’ve had enough time, I feel like we have. We’re really taking our cues from the story itself, and it just feels like the story has moved forward aggressively. What I’m proud of about the series is that it’s been unafraid to take risks and it’s been unafraid to move strongly forward, instead of trying to tread water. It just feels like the momentum of the series is now moving towards a conclusion. <ref name="crave">{{cite_web|url=http://www.craveonline.com/filmtv/articles/04648062/battlestar_galactica_ronald_moore_talks_about_earth.html|title=Battlestar Galactica: Ronald Moore talks about Earth|date=13 June 2007|accessdate=15 June 2007|last=Topel|first=Fred|format=|language=}}</ref>

==Notes==
* In the finale of ''Battlestar Galactica'', it was revealed that the series took place more than 150,000 years before the present day. Therefore, unlike most space opera series, the reimagined ''Battlestar Galactica'' was a saga of ancient history rather than future history.

== See Also ==
* [[Themes in Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]
* [[Philosophy in Battlestar Galactica]]
* [[Sexuality in Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]
* [[Music of Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]
* [[Opening credits]]

==キャスト==
===Stars===
* [[Edward James Olmos|エドワード・ジェームズ・オルモス]] as [[William Adama|ウィリアム・アダマ]]
* [[Mary McDonnell|メアリー・マクドネル]] as [[Laura Roslin|ローラ・ロズリン]]
* [[Katee Sackhoff]] as [[Kara Thrace|Kara "Starbuck" Thrace]]
* [[Jamie Bamber]] as {{callsign|Apollo}}
* [[James Callis]] as [[Gaius Baltar]]
* [[Tricia Helfer]] as [[Number Six]]
* [[Grace Park]] as [[Number Eight]]

===Co-stars===
* [[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
* [[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
* [[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
* [[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]] (2003-2006)
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
* [[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Tyrol|Cally]] (2003-2008)
* [[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Alex Quartararo|Alex "Crashdown" Quartararo]] (2004-2005)
* [[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]] (2008-)

==Production Crew==
===Producers===
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] - Developer / Executive Producer / Writer
* [[David Eick]] - Executive Producer
* [[Toni Graphia]] - Co-Executive Producer / Writer
* [[Harvey Frand]] - Producer
* [[Glen A. Larson]] - Consulting Producer

===Directors & Writing Staff===
: ''To view the list of all the directors and staff, see the [[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Crew#Directors|Crew Portal]].

== Episodes ==

:''For a complete list of all episodes, see the [[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 1 Guide|Episode Guide]]''.

== References ==

{{reflist}}

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Behind the Scenes]]
[[Category:Series in the Re-Imagined Continuity]]
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| title= Battlestar Galactica
| creator= [[Ronald D. Moore]]
| starring= [[Edward James Olmos]] [[Mary McDonnell]] [[Katee Sackhoff]] [[Jamie Bamber]] [[James Callis]] [[Tricia Helfer]] [[Grace Park]]
| composer= [[Bear McCreary]]
| company= [[w:NBC Universal|NBC Universal]]
| seasons= 4
| episodes= 74
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| channel= [[Sci Fi Channel]] and [[Sky One]]
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| UK airdate= 2004-02-17
| dvd= 2005-03-28
| exec producer= [[Ronald D. Moore]] [[David Eick]]
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| co-producer= [[Jane Espenson]] [[Toni Graphia]]
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==Summary==
The 2003 [[Miniseries]] debut of '''''Battlestar Galactica''''' was a "[[Wikipedia:Reboot (continuity)|re-imagining]]," or updated version of the [[Original Series]] made [[Naturalistic science fiction|more suitable]] to the modern sensibilities of the 21st Century. Aiming to tackle issues of civil rights, survival, terrorism, and religion, ''Battlestar Galactica'' is an drama following the survivors of a race of humanity—which number under 50,000. The new ''Battlestar'' was spearheaded by former ''Star Trek: The Next Generation'' and ''Star Trek: Deep Space Nine'' writer/producer [[Ron D. Moore]] and co-produced by [[David Eick]].

A familiar but different [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] ''{{RDM|Galactica}}'' finds herself leading a refugee [[The Fleet (RDM)|fleet]] away from the destroyed [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol|Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and on a (and [[Home, Part II|initially fictitious]]) quest for [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]], with turmoil from within and danger from without.

''Battlestar Galactica'' began as a four-hour miniseries pilot on the [[Sci Fi Channel]] in late 2003. As with the Original Series, the show begins with the destruction of the [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol|Twelve Colonies]], but in a style more familiar and disturbing to today's viewers. Moore noted that the show's dark premise would have a "different resonance for me and for the audience after the terrorist attacks of 9/11."<ref group="development" name="bassom_companion_9_11_resonance">{{Cite book|author=David Bassom|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|year=2005|publisher=Titan Books|isbn=1845760972|page=12}}</ref>

While the design of the battlestar ''Galactica'' was probably the most familiar element derived from the Original Series, many elements of the new show were altered. The commander, [[William Adama]], is a battle-hardened, secularly-minded commander on the eve of retirement for himself and his [[Cylon War|combat-decorated]] old battlestar. The names of Original Series characters are now the pilot call signs for his son, {{callsign|Apollo}} and the crack pilot, [[Kara Thrace|Kara "Starbuck" Thrace]]. Starbuck's change into a female character initially became a torrid issue to Original Series fans who feared this and other changes would render an inferior series.

However, some fans became pleasantly surprised of the quality of the miniseries and the regular series. Unlike its Original Series counterpart, the new series has not only survived to prepare for a [[Season 4|fourth and final season]] in 2008, but has received many awards and nominations, including several Emmy nominations, a Peabody Award, a Saturn Award, and a Hugo Award. Its popularity has even given the show its own spin-off series, [[Caprica (series)| Caprica]]. In addition, the series has been sold to many other countries across the world.

== Series development ==

After the miniseries, the regular series itself was not immediately approved due to financial considerations. Initially, Universal Studios and Sci Fi Channel both deemed that the series was unaffordable, despite [[David Eick]]'s and David Kissinger's attempts to secure funding for the series. Fortuitously, the UK network [[Sky One]] was looking to fund "high-profile American shows," "ultimately making up the difference between what Universal felt it could afford and what we needed to make the show," according to Eick.<ref group="development" name="bassom_companion_sky_one_funding">{{Cite book|author=David Bassom|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|year=2005|publisher=Titan Books|isbn=1845760972|page=41}}</ref>

Once funding was secured, the official announcement for the series' launch was given on 10 February 2004.<ref group="development" name="bassom_companion_series_announcement_february_2004">{{Cite book|author=David Bassom|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|year=2005|publisher=Titan Books|isbn=1845760972|page=41}}</ref> Moore, a majority of the production staff, as well as every principal cast member from the miniseries returned to work on the series. Moore also hired the show's writing staff, including [[Toni Graphia]], [[David Weddle]], [[Bradley Thompson]], and [[Carla Robinson]].<ref group="development" name="bassom_companion_writing_staff_hiring">{{Cite book|author=David Bassom|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|year=2005|publisher=Titan Books|isbn=1845760972|pages=41-42}}</ref>

Principal shooting on the [[Season 1 (2004-05)|first season]] was from 19 April to 15 September 2004, with each episode taking eight days to shoot. In an interesting twist, the series was first broadcast on a European network, Sky One, between 18 October 2004 to 24 January 2005.<ref group="production" name="bassom_companion_season_one_filming_schedule">{{Cite book|author=David Bassom|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|year=2005|publisher=Titan Books|isbn=1845760972|page=43}}</ref> As part of the funding agreement, Sky One was given the opportunity to play the new series first, leaving Americans to wait several months before the series would debut in the Americas.

== Noted changes from the [[Original Series]] ==
The basic story is still present: robotic [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] conduct a [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|surprise attack on the Colonies]], thus forcing several stranded spaceships to coalesce around the last surviving [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]], ''{{RDM|Galactica}}'', to seek a mythical [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] where the survivors hope to find shelter from the Cylons.

Many of the fine details changed from the Original Series.

* The Cylons were created by humanity itself and not by a {{TOS|Cylons|separate alien race}}.<ref group="footnotes" name="cylon_creation_shift_film_parallels">This shift in antagonists mirror similar dystopian man/machine stories found in such popular films as the ''[[Wikipedia:The Terminator|Terminator]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:The Matrix|The Matrix]]'' movie series.</ref>
* ''Galactica'' is a 50 year old relic on the verge of decommission.
* The names of "Apollo," "Boomer," and "Starbuck" are changed to call signs. Most characters have standard first and last names.
* The alien (and often confusing) terminology used to denote units of measurement, such as distance and time, in the Original Series has been replaced with understandable terminology, such as "year" and not "[[yahren]]".
* The ship designs, save for some revisions to the [[Viper Mark II]] and ''{{RDM|Galactica}}'' and a few noteworthy background ships (such as the ''[[Astral Queen]]'' and the [[Botanical Cruiser]]), have been redone.
* The government of the Colonies resembles the United States' democratic republic, with a president, vice president, and secretaries. The [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] appears later, revised as a senatorial body, in the episode "[[Colonial Day]]".
* Instead of the other-worldly, Egyptian-esque clothing and city designs (i.e. pyramids) seen in the Original Series, objects are more contemporary in design and function.
* The [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)|religion]] for the Colonials revises the Lords of Kobol to be analogous in name to many of [[w:Greek mythology|the gods in real-world Greek mythology]], making the Colonial religion of the Re-imagined Series truly polytheistic.
* The Cylons themselves [[Cylon Religion|celebrate a monotheistic religion]] with a deity similar to the God of the [[w:Abrahamic religion|Abrahamic religions]]. The Cylons and Colonials consider each other's religions to be false, reflecting the current Islam/Christianity/Judaism strife between the Western world and the Middle East, or clashes between colonizing forces and many indigenous or native populations throughout the age of exploration and modernity.

Characters are altered significantly from the Original Series.

* {{TOS|Boomer}}, played by [[Herb Jefferson Jr.]], is now the callsign of a female, Lieutenant [[Sharon Valerii]] ([[Grace Park]]).
* {{TOS|Starbuck}}, played as a male character by [[Dirk Benedict]], is now the call-sign of a female lieutenant named {{callsign|Starbuck}} ([[Katee Sackhoff]]).
* "Adama," "Tigh," and "Baltar" are now surnames.
* The character of {{TOS|Adama}}, portrayed by [[Lorne Greene]] in the Original Series, becomes [[William Adama]] ([[Edward James Olmos]]). Adama's beliefs are far more secular than his Original Series counterpart.
* {{TOS|Apollo}}, portrayed by [[Richard Hatch]] in the Original Series, becomes the call sign of {{callsign|Lee Adama}} ([[Jamie Bamber]]).
* {{TOS|Baltar}}, who was willingly complicit in the destruction of the Colonies, became [[Gaius Baltar]], an arrogant scientific genius that is tricked into working with the Cylons.
* Colonel {{TOS|Tigh}}, portrayed by [[Terry Carter]] in the original series, becomes Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] ([[Michael Hogan]]), a grumpy alcoholic plagued by marital and psychological problems .

The show has taken a more realistic turn, scientifically. [[Science in the Re-imagined Series|Realistic science]], which was absent in the Original Series, is applied in this series as best as cinematic and storyline requirements permit.

Certain models of Cylons [[Humanoid Cylon|appear human, right down to the blood]], which generates some very disturbing problems in distinguishing friend from foe. This mirrors terrorist methods of infiltration and delivering destructive results to heavy population centers (akin to suicide bombers).

== Official Statements ==

* ''[[Edward James Olmos]] to fans of the [[Original Series]]:''

: If you are a real, real staunch ''{{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Battlestar Galactica}}'' person, please don't watch it. [N]ot only because of [<nowiki/>{{callsign|Starbuck}}] but because we really don't stand true to the kind of characters that were built around the original.

: I've gotten some really strong mail [from Original Series fans]. They're very angry. And I know [[Sci Fi Channel]] wants to say that everybody's going to enjoy it. They're not. They're not going to like this program.<ref group="commentary" name="catlin_courant_olmos_warning_original_fans">{{cite_web|url=https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-2003-12-08-0312081262-story.html|title=TO `GALACTICA' FANS: DON'T WATCH THIS|date=8 December 2003|accessdate=19 September 2019|last=Catlin|first=Roger}}</ref>

* ''[[Ron D. Moore]] discusses using the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}} as a template:''

: I approached the original show and looked at what worked and what didn't work. I tried to keep as much of the original show as possible. I kept all the essential elements of ''Battlestar Galactica'': the aircraft-carrier-in-space; the rag-tag fleet; the Cylon attack, the escape and the search for Earth; Commander Adama; Adama's son "Apollo," who's ''Galactica'''s lead fighter pilot; the rogue pilot, "Starbuck"; their friend, "Boomer"; and Baltar, the traitor. Those were the main things I knew I had to keep – it wouldn't have been ''Battlestar Galactica'' without them.

: I changed the things I knew didn't work. The original {{TOS|Baltar}} didn't have a motivation for betraying his race<ref group="footnotes" name="baltar_motivation_subjective_analysis">Moore's statement is subjective. Some readers may feel that Baltar's motivations were power-based. By deliberately making a deal with the Cylons, he believed that the Cylons would spare his colony and subjugate the human species under him {{OS|Saga of a Star World}}.</ref>, so I knew I'd have to change that character. I also never understood why the Cylons were so intent on pursuing these humans across the galaxy<ref group="footnotes" name="original_cylon_motivations_reference">For detail on the Original Series Cylons and their motivations, see [[Cylons (TOS)]].</ref>, so I changed the background of the Cylons and their relationship with the human beings. Making the Cylons the creation of humanity enabled the Cylons to have a much more complicated love/hate relationship with humans, and also provided us with a way to use humanoid Cylons in the series, which was something we knew we wanted to do because there would be limits on how much we could use CGI Cylons.

: {{TOS|Athena}} didn't seem to serve any function in the original show other than look beautiful and be a love interest for Starbuck, so I just got rid of that character.<ref group="footnotes" name="athena_character_transfer_starbuck">The series would transfer the daughter-figure aspects of the Original Series Athena to {{callsign|Starbuck}} and {{callsign|Athena}}, who [[Torn|later]] receives the callsign of "Athena."</ref> And while I thought {{TOS|Boxey}} was part of the family and decided it would be nice to [[Boxey (RDM)|include him in some peripheral way]],<ref group="footnotes" name="boxey_character_dropped_from_series">The character of Boxey in the Re-imagined Series was intended to be part of a family unit with [[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Sharon Valerii]], but a place for the character within story arcs were eventually dropped, and the character has essentially been dropped from the series.</ref> I never considered keeping [[Muffit|Boxey's dog]] for a second. The dog was just absurd! it was right out from the moment I took the show.

* ''Moore discusses the religious aspects of the series:''

: The religious aspects of the show developed naturally out of my intention to reflect every aspect of the human experience. I was delighted because I'm fascinated with this notion of monotheism versus polytheism, and I felt its addition to the show enriched it and helped make it unique.<ref group="commentary" name="bassom_companion_moore_religious_aspects">{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=18-19|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>

* ''Moore discusses using the series as allegory to current events:''

: The original "[[MemoryAlpha:Star Trek: The Original Series|[Star] Trek]]" series ... dealt with a lot of hot-button issues at the time: It dealt with racism, and it dealt with war, and it dealt with a lot of ideas that were very, very timely and very important. And this was a chance to make a science fiction show that wasn't purely escapist, but actually dealt with the world that we live in.<ref group="commentary" name="wolverton_thestreet_moore_current_events_allegory">{{cite_web|url=http://www.thestreet.com/_tsclsii/funds/goodlife/10276628.html|title=Delve Into 'Battlestar Galactica'|date=5 April 2006|accessdate=9 Feburary 2007|last=Wolverton|first=Troy|format=|language=}}</ref>

* ''[[Jamie Bamber]] talks about the discussions that the cast and crew have regarding the show's content:''

: We discuss everything. We even do try to discuss the sci-fi techie stuff, but we're just not very good at it. When [[A Day in the Life|the script]] throws out something like [[Cally Tyrol|Callie]] [''sic''] and [[Galen Tyrol|the Chief]] in space without any protection, lots [of us discuss] around the set if that was really possible. In the end, we all bow down to the experts who tell us it is. That shuts us up very quick. The political stuff, that's the juice of the show with the cast. That's pretty much what we like to inhabit, those social-political dilemmas and what they mean morally and legally, and how they pertain to the world that we're in now. The interesting thing about this show is that a lot of people come up to me and say, "Is it really liberal, or something?" but everyone across the political spectrum can find a view that they can side with. We don't cast moral judgment on any of them. It is all shades of gray that are out there to be interpreted, and that's the beauty of the writing, I think.<ref group="commentary" name="cohn_tv_guide_bamber_cast_discussions">{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Interviews-Features/Article/default.aspx?posting=%7BAC4FC1D4-115F-457C-8E4A-01A539D77D39%7D|title=''Galactica'''s Jamie Bamber Visits a Heavenly ''Ghost''|date=23 February 2007|accessdate=23 February 2007|last=Cohn|first=Angel|format=|language=}}</ref>

* ''Bamber discusses being sympathetic to the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]:''

: The Cylons do garner your empathy gradually, as you see more and more from their point of view. That's a bold move. There is a lot about them that should be sympathetic to a Western American audience. They are monotheists, they kind of believe in redemption and rebirth and all these things that a lot of us believe in. The humans are polytheists and are a bit more anachronistic.<ref group="commentary" name="cohn_tv_guide_bamber_cylon_sympathy">{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Interviews-Features/Article/default.aspx?posting=%7BAC4FC1D4-115F-457C-8E4A-01A539D77D39%7D|title=''Galactica'''s Jamie Bamber Visits a Heavenly ''Ghost''|date=23 February 2007|accessdate=23 February 2007|last=Cohn|first=Angel|format=|language=}}</ref>

* ''[[Edward James Olmos]] discusses what the series is to him, referencing {{callsign|Athena}}'s birth of [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]:''

: No, I think it was [<nowiki></nowiki>{{callsign|Athena}}'s] [[Hera Agathon|baby]] that really pushed her to the point of being more human than android. The love of a child is really the premise of this story. [[William Adama|My [character's]]] love of my children, [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]]'s love of humanity — all of us are her children. I have my son [Major [[Lee Adama|Lee ''Apollo'' Adama]]], and of course I just [[Maelstrom|lost]] my [surrogate] daughter [Captain [[Kara Thrace|Kara ''Starbuck'' Thrace]]], which was brutal.<ref group="commentary" name="ew_olmos_love_children_series_premise">{{cite_web|url=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036782_20037403_20015932_2,00.html|title=Four-ward, Cylons: EDWARD JAMES OLMOS|date=|accessdate=31 May 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref>

* ''Moore discusses mapping out the series:''

: Each season, we mapped out where we wanted to go by the end of that season. That's how I like to approach things. At the beginning of [[Season 1 (2004-05)|season one]], we talked about where the end of the first year would be. And then, into the [[Season 2 (2005-06)|second year]], we broke it up into groups of the first 10 and the second 10, and kept that style of planning, all through the show. I would say, somewhere mid-way through the second season, I started thinking seriously about what the end of the series itself might be. Ideas for where we were headed and what it all meant started to coalesce over the course of the third season. In season three, we started talking in earnest about, "Well, okay, if we do end it next year, what would it really be?," and it just felt like, "Yeah, this is the right time to do it." In terms of whether we've had enough time, I feel like we have. We're really taking our cues from the story itself, and it just feels like the story has moved forward aggressively. What I'm proud of about the series is that it's been unafraid to take risks and it's been unafraid to move strongly forward, instead of trying to tread water. It just feels like the momentum of the series is now moving towards a conclusion.<ref group="development" name="topel_crave_moore_series_planning_conclusion">{{cite_web|url=http://www.craveonline.com/filmtv/articles/04648062/battlestar_galactica_ronald_moore_talks_about_earth.html|title=Battlestar Galactica: Ronald Moore talks about Earth|date=13 June 2007|accessdate=15 June 2007|last=Topel|first=Fred|format=|language=}}</ref>

==Notes==
* In the finale of ''Battlestar Galactica'', it was revealed that the series took place more than 150,000 years before the present day. Therefore, unlike most space opera series, the reimagined ''Battlestar Galactica'' was a saga of ancient history rather than future history.

* The [[Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)]] was created to encompass elements of both the original series and the re-imagined series, but, as such, is in a [[Battlestar Wiki:Separate continuity|separate continuity]].

== See Also ==
* [[Themes in Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]
* [[Philosophy in Battlestar Galactica]]
* [[Sexuality in Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]
* [[Music of Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]
* [[Opening credits]]

==Cast==
[[File:Image lg bgcast.jpg|thumb|Season One cast photo.]]
===Stars===
* [[Edward James Olmos]] as [[William Adama]]
* [[Mary McDonnell]] as [[Laura Roslin]]
* [[Katee Sackhoff]] as [[Kara Thrace|Kara "Starbuck" Thrace]]
* [[Jamie Bamber]] as {{callsign|Apollo}}
* [[James Callis]] as [[Gaius Baltar]]
* [[Tricia Helfer]] as [[Number Six]]
* [[Grace Park]] as [[Number Eight]]

===Co-stars===
* [[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
* [[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
* [[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
* [[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]] (2003-2006)
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
* [[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Tyrol|Cally]] (2003-2008)
* [[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Alex Quartararo|Alex "Crashdown" Quartararo]] (2004-2005)
* [[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]] (2008-)

==Production Crew==
===Producers===
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] - Developer / Executive Producer / Writer
* [[David Eick]] - Executive Producer
* [[Toni Graphia]] - Co-Executive Producer / Writer
* [[Harvey Frand]] - Producer
* [[Glen A. Larson]] - Consulting Producer

===Directors & Writing Staff===
: ''To view the list of all the directors and staff, see the [[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Crew#Directors|Crew Portal]].

== Episodes ==

:''For a complete list of all episodes, see the [[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 1 Guide|Episode Guide]]''.

== References ==

=== Development and Creative Process ===
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=== Production History ===
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Request for information:
Can anyone post the text of the UFO disclaimer that aired at the end of each Galactica 1980 episode? Does anyone know why it was included?

==Request for Screencapture==
If anybody could find/post a capture of "Col. Boomer", I'd like to use it to create a Boomer (1980). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:06, 6 January 2006 (EST)

== Fleet Link ==

Should we use <nowiki>[[The Fleet]]</nowiki> or <nowiki>[[The Fleet (TOS)]]</nowiki>? The latter is somewhat misleading (though only somewhat), but the former leads only to a disambiguation page. I think we should use the former until we can get <nowiki>[[The Fleet (1980)]]</nowiki> going. That way, we can still easily find the pages that should link to 1980 when we need to do another find and replace run. --[[User:Day|Day]] 00:08, 15 January 2006 (EST)

:It's not exactly the pinnacle of consistancy and elegance, but since there's probably little content specific to just the 1980 fleet, I'd link to [[The Fleet (TOS)]], and footnote the relevant details there. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 04:14, 15 January 2006 (EST)

== THE DAY THEY KIDNAPPED CLEOPATRA ==

There should be some information about the future episodes of this series. The script for this episode can be found in http://www.blast.net/hart/DayThey.htm. Other scripts are in http://www.blast.net/hart/Scripts.htm --[[User:Jcnventura|Jcnventura]] 10:19, 16 March 2006 (CST)

:My admiration for anyone willing to document this is considerable, but I must ask if you can provide a second source to corroborate that site. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:10, 16 March 2006 (CST)

::There are several sites that mention the name of the episode, but only this one has the script summary. After having read it, it is stupid enough to validate as an episode of G1980... :) I have seen many good information sources on Galactica go down over the years, so I would like to write about it here. The only way to make sure is to try to buy the script on ebay one of these days. I will create the articles and then we can discuss if they should be deleted because we can't verify it at multiple sources. -- [[User:Jcnventura|Jcnventura]] 04:12, 17 March 2006 (CST)

:::My only concern is verifying that this isn't fanficton before we report on it here. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 04:24, 17 March 2006 (CST)

::::I've heard of it as well. It is a valid script, like "Wheel of Fire" (I believe that to be the name). It was one of the few scripts that were in the works before ABC (thankfully) pulled the plug on G80. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 08:22, 17 March 2006 (CST)

==DVD==
A DVD of the 1980 series is on sale from ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BATTLESTAR-GALACTICA-1980-ON-DVD_W0QQitemZ9127700854QQcategoryZ2307QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 10:35, 19 April 2006 (CDT)

:Note the TV rating on the upper left. Plus... all 10 episodes on 1 DVD? This has to be some sort of a broadcast quality squeezed onto 1 dvd rather than a DVD quality release. It'd no doubt be handy to have it just for viewing purposes, but it looks like it's pretty bootleg/unofficial. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:41, 19 April 2006 (CDT)

::Yes, probably avi standard but it could be worth it for a fiver. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 10:51, 19 April 2006 (CDT)

== 1980 Marathon on Scifi 6/20 ==
It appears there will be something of a 1980 marathon on tomorrow. I've set up a season pass to try to pick it up, and I'll double check it when I get home. I'm not terribly excited at the prospect, but it does open a potential source for getting screen captures for anybody interested in doing so. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:18, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
:I managed to record all 8 hours of it, so I've got all of 1980 on my Tivo box except for super scouts (I and II). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:38, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
::"except for super scouts" not a great loss :P --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 10:51, 22 June 2006 (CDT)

::On behalf of everyone, I've begun my ritual screaming and gnashing of teeth as a proxy for anyone who's crazy enough to watch any of this. My dental bills are paid up, so I can withstand the penance for your souls... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:26, 22 June 2006 (CDT)

::rofl. I getting my braces off June 28th..... that's going to be PAIN! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 19:28, 22 June 2006 (CDT)

== 1980 Season ==

We should probably look at creating a "season" page for this saga, to be consistent with TOS and RDM. We'd probably end up moving a lot of content from here (like the episode listing) to that page. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:40, 26 December 2007 (CST)
: For consistency's sake, I agree. By the way, my copy arrives tomorrow from Amazon, so I'll be starting work on the 1980 stuff... uh... soon as I finish my disambiguation crusade, I guess. <drsmith>Oh the pain, the pain. </drsmith>-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 19:48, 26 December 2007 (CST)
::I'm afraid to remove the shrinkwrap on mine. Clowns in Nazi outfits will get me. It's Pandora's box, man.... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:49, 26 December 2007 (CST)
:::Mine hasn't arrived yet (super saver shipping). Hopefully it gets lost in the mail... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:15, 27 December 2007 (CST)

== Subtitles ==

I've been watching with subtitles... and they're awful. They generally track ok, only to majorly screw up every now and then. "Criminals," read the subtitle in part three. Dillon actually said, "Primitives." We'll have to be careful about using them as sources. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:23, 29 December 2007 (CST)
: Agreed. I noticed that they spell Xaviar, "Xavier", at least in Part II, while I have scripts that spell it Xaviar. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 10:30, 29 December 2007 (CST)

== Followed by the Second Coming?? ==

Why is the Second coming mentioned as the follow-up to G80? It's never been aired outside of conventions and it's only a demo trailer of what could be.. The TOS storyline reached the end (for now...) with the 'Return of Starbuck' episode. -- [[User:Jcnventura|Jcnventura]] 06:26, 14 February 2008 (CST)
:Concur. I pulled it. --08:52, 14 February 2008 (CST)

== Canon / Continuity ==

I understand that the series is generally considered to be hardly watchable, but is it considered to be part of TOS continuity? --[[User:RedKnight|RedKnight]] 14:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
: It's a unique situation. It's certainly derived from the TOS continuity and could be considered a part of it, as it is technically a spin-off. However, given the comments from Glen Larson—where Larson said he would ignore 1980 itself and ignore all ties with TOS completely, if given the chance—and other crew members over years (Busch and Cole come prominently to mind), ''1980'' is treated as an offshoot from the primary TOS continuity and not a part of it. (Unlike ''Caprica'' or the Re-imagined Series, where both are part of the same continuity.) So... there's your answer. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
::In that case, focusing on the phrase "if given the chance" I think it best considered part of the TOS continuity as there is no common concensus.
::Of course there is still the qwustion of what else is considered main continuity and not (comics for example), but I know such items are typically not part of continuity. --[[User:RedKnight|RedKnight]] 19:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, you might not be aware of this, but the common consensus on a majority of the TOS fandom in question is to ignore ''1980'' entirely. There is also Glen Larson's continued insistence on the subject—notably his crack about ''1980'' being Starbuck's bad dream—that dictates this otherwise odd separation. Further, comics are generally considered [[BW:SEPCON|separate continuity]] sources, and therefore not canon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 19:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, that does make sense although simply "not liking" something does not make it stop existing. Jumping into Star Trek for comparison, the age-old debate about the animated series being canon or not within TOS has begun to sway towards its inclusion believe it or not. Similarly, just about anything Star Wars is "supposed" to be canon, yet since Lucas does not like the infamous Holiday Special it is not canon, yet many fans argue with this decision regardless of his views.
::::Comics and novels... I would automatically consider any non-canon excepts where expressly stated such as the Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics. Difficult choices overall and many open to individual interpretation I guess. --[[User:RedKnight|Watcher of the Omniverse]] 23:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

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{{disline|このシリーズに基づくリ・イマジネーション版コミックについては[[Galactica 1980 (comic)]]を参照のこと。}}

{{Series Data (jp)
| image = gal802.jpg
| title=新宇宙空母ギャラクティカ
| creator=[[Glen A. Larson|グレン・A・ラ―ソン]]
| starring=[[Kent McCord|ケント・マッコード]] [[Barry Van Dyke|バリー・ヴァン・ダイク]] [[Robyn Douglass|ロビン・ダグラス]] [[Lorne Greene|ローン・グリーン]] [[Herb Jefferson Jr.|ハーバート・ジェファーソン・Jr]] [[Patrick Stuart|パトリック・スチュアート]]
| composer=[[Stu Phillips|ステュー・フィリップス]]
| company=[[Universal Studios]] [[Glen Larson Productions]]
| seasons=1
| episodes=10
| episodelistid=Galactica 1980
| channel= [[w:ABC|ABC]]
| US airdate=1980-01-27 — 1980-05-04
| UK airdate=
| dvd= 2007-12-26
| exec producer= [[Glen A. Larson|グレン・A・ラ―ソン]]
| producer=
| supervising producer=
| associate producer=[[David G. Phinney|デイビッド・G・フィニー]] [[Tim King|ティム・キング]]
| co-producer=
| story editor= [[Chris Bunch]] [[Allan Cole]] [[Robert W. Gilmer]] [[Robert L. McCullough]]
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|オリジナル・シリーズ]]
| next=
| itunes=
| imdb=0080221
}}

『新宇宙空母ギャラクティカ』は[[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|オリジナル・シリーズ]]のスピンオフである。

『新宇宙空母ギャラクティカ』の初回は1980年１月27日にアメリカのＡＢＣで放送され、最後のエピソードは同年の５月４日に放送された。放送されたのはわずか１０エピソードで、批評もファンからも不評だった。

シリーズは主な視聴者を子供にしぼり、初回は日曜夜７時の"家族向け"の時間に放送された。

2009年９月からダイナマイト・エンターテイメントから、本シリーズの設定をリ・イマジネーション（再創造）した[[Marc Guggenheim|マーク・グッゲンハイム]]による[[Galactica 1980 (comic)|４巻のコミック・シリーズ]]が出版された。

==あらすじ==

[[Battlestar (TOS)|オリジナル・シリーズ]]の１世代後、ギャラクティカと220の民間船の[[The Fleet (TOS)|船団]]は遂に地球にたどり着く。だが期待されていた地球の技術力はコロニアルより遅れているため、[[Cylons (TOS)|サイロン]]に対抗できるだけの力を持っていなかった。そのため、[[Colonial Warrior|コロニアル・ウォーリー]]達を地球の様々な科学者達の元へ派遣し、密かに地球の技術力を進歩を早めるようとする。

プロモーション用の資料によると、『新宇宙空母ギャラクティカ』はオリジナル・シリーズの３０年後に設定されている。

[[Adama (1980)|アダマ]]司令官と、タイ大佐の地位に昇進した[[Boomer (1980)|ブーマー]]大佐は、アダマの息子[[Apollo (TOS)|アポロ]]の[[Serina|養子]]である"ボクシー"・[[Troy (1980)|トロイ]]大尉と[[Dillon|ディロン]]中尉を北アメリカへ派遣する。２人はテレビ・ジャーナリストの[[Jamie Hamilton|ジェイミー・ハミルトン]]を助けを得る。彼女の地球の科学者を手助けするためのアドバイスや、地球を発見したサイロンを出し抜くために２人を助けることになる。

[[File:GAL801.jpg|thumb|トロイ大尉とジェイミー・ハミルトン]]
===キャスト===

* [[Lorne Greene|ローン・グリーン]] - [[Adama (1980)|アダマ司令官]]
* [[Robyn Douglass|ロビン・ダグラス]] - [[Jamie Hamilton|ジェイミー・ハミルトン]]
* [[Herb Jefferson Jr.|ハーバート・ジェファーソン・Jr]] - [[Boomer (1980)|ブーマー大佐]]
* [[Richard Lynch|リチャード・リンチ]] - [[Xaviar|ザビエル]]
* [[Kent McCord|ケント・マッコード]] - [[Troy (1980)|トロイ大尉]]
* [[Allan Miller|アラン・ミラー]] - [[Colonel Sydell|シーデル大佐]]
* [[James Patrick Stuart|ジェイーズ・パトリック・スチュアート]] - [[Doctor Zee|ジー博士]]
* [[Robbie Rist|ロビー・リスト]] - [[Doctor Zee|ジー博士]]
* [[Barry Van Dyke|バリー・ヴァン・ダイク]] - [[Dillon|ディロン中尉]]

[[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|オリジナル・シリーズ]]から、本シリーズ全１０話に出演したのはグリーン（アダマ）とジェファーソン（ブーマー）だけである。[[Dirk Benedict|ダーク・ベネディクト]]は最終回で[[Starbuck (1980)|スターバック]]役で出演している。
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==Short life==
''Galactica 1980'' had a promising start in its ratings with a [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I|three-hour adventure]] that saw Troy, Dillon and Hamilton sent back in time to Nazi Germany to save the future, but the series could not sustain this momentum. The series was unceremoniously canceled after only ten episodes, many of which were multi-part stories, or what would be referred to now as story arcs.

The final episode, "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," aired on May 4th, 1980. The episode featured the return of [[Dirk Benedict]] as Lt. [[Starbuck (1980)|Starbuck]] in a flashback episode. The episode's popularity was too late to save the series. Repeats were aired through August 17th; the series was replaced by repeats of ''[[Wikipedia:Fantasy Island|Fantasy Island]]'' the following week.{{citation needed}}

==Production==

In the fall of 1979, ABC Television approached [[Glen A. Larson]] and Universal to bring back ''Galactica'' series. According to ''1980'' story editor [[Chris Bunch]], neither Larson nor Universal wanted to do the series at all. Bunch claims that both parties were threatened to do the series for reasons which were not known to him, and attributes the reason that Larson agreed to do the series to "[whore] for the money with a bad attitude".<ref name="bunch">{{cite_web|url=http://geocities.ws/sjpaxton/bunch.html|title=Battlestar Zone Interview: Chris Bunch|date=|accessdate=11 August 2007|last=Paxton|first=Susan J.|format=|language=}}</ref> This is also corroborated by Bunch's then-writing partner, [[Allan Cole]].<ref name="cole">{{cite_web|url=http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0030.htm|title=Interview with Galactica 1980 story editor Allan Cole|date=28 Feburary 2005|accessdate=11 August 2007|last=Larocque|first=John|format=|language=}}</ref>

All the parties agreed that the discovery of Earth would be a suitable vehicle for drawing back viewers. However, many of the actors had moved on to other roles, most of the sets had been struck, and the time available for completing the production before the proposed January 1980 airdate was short. Actors and production personnel who worked on ''Galactica 1980'' describe a crazy shooting schedule that involved working on multiple episodes at the same time, last minute re-writes, and working days that extended well into the night.

Bunch notes that both he and Cole were "literally blackmailed into the gig because of ostensible expertise in SF".<ref name="bunch"/> They (including [[Robert L. McCullough]]) were story editors for the series, and would chant "Come on, 13" every morning. "13" was the ratings number that, should ''1980'' ever hit or go below it, would result in the series' cancellation.<ref name="cole"/>

Larson wrote or rewrote the entire series' worth of episodes from either [[w:Hawaii|Hawaii]] or [[w:Malibu|Malibu]].<ref name="bunch"/> Further episode rewrites happened on the sets just prior to shooting.<ref name="cole"/> Additionally, there was no clearly defined purpose to the show prior to development, as the purpose of the show changed on a daily basis. Additionally, new characters were created for the series, and then subsequently dropped as though they never existed.<ref name="cole"/>

As a result of having crews work overtime, the budget for the series continued to creep up in cost. That, in conjunction with ratings that went from historic highs with the first episode down to a dismal showing by April, spelled the early end of the program.<ref name="cole"/>

== Budget hell ==

Despite what Cole calls "revisionism" from people, such as lead actor [[Kent McCord]]—who claimed that they needed a way to "economize" ''Battlestar Galactica'', ergo ''1980''—ABC "knew very well that Glen [Larson] never met a budget that he didn't hate".<ref name="cole"/>

The series itself cost between $1.2 and 1.5 million to produce per episode; the $1.5 million number is the budget that "[[The Super Scouts, Part I]]" used. As ABC only paid $600,000 to $700,000 per episode, Universal was left to pay the remainder for each hour of programming.<ref name="cole"/>

Additionally, Cole notes that "there were almost as many producers listed on the show as secretaries. I mean, every day we'd be introduced to another guy who had just joined the staff as a new producer. I don't know what any of them did—we rarely saw them again—but they sure were collecting the bucks." He adds that this was Universal's decision as they "figured [that] if they were going to eat the big green slime anyway, they might as well take care of some obligations and dump all their losses into one (overflowing) bucket."<ref name="cole"/> This constant overflow of personnel to the series did nothing to alleviate the budget issues.

Ironically, the only episode that did not go over-budget was "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," and so Universal did not have to pay the remainder as, by that time, they were overspent.<ref name="cole"/>

== "Kiddie Hour," Standards and Practices, and "kids crawling out of your ears" ==

During its initial run, ''Galactica 1980'' was relegated to the 7 P.M. Sunday timeslot. Its only competition was that of [[w:CBS|CBS]]'s "television news magazine" ''[[w:60 Minutes|60 Minutes]]''.

This timeslot was deemed by Standards and Practices as children-friendly, and thus had restrictions as to the type of stories that could be told, or how they could be told.

The content of shows airing in this timeslot needed to be educational, and thus the Galacticans' lack of knowledge on Earth cultures and locations, and finding out about them through their [[wrist computron]]s came to satisfy this.

Furthermore, there could only be so many incidents of violence per episode. These incidents included shooting Cylons, despite the fact that they were robots; blowing up trees with laser pistols was also forbidden by ABC's censor, Susan Futterman, who caused many of the series's problems according to Cole, making the show impossible to work on.<ref name="gs1">{{cite_web|url=http://alcole.blogspot.com/2006/04/galactia-story-1.html|title=Galactica Story #1|date=17 April 2006|accessdate=9 January 2007|last=Cole|first=Allan|format=|language=}}</ref>

Additionally, people in the series needed to be clean-cut and presentable, thus removing any ability to present realistic presentations of people. Furthermore, Standards and Practices complained to Larson that there weren't enough kids; according to Cole, Larson replied "Okay, I'll give you kids crawling out of your ears." This resulted in [[The Super Scouts]]<ref name="cole"/> and the episodes that they were featured in, notably "[[The Super Scouts, Part I]]," "[[The Super Scouts, Part II]]," "[[Spaceball]]" and "[[Space Croppers]]".

Unfortunately, shooting with large groups of children proved another major headache for the series, forcing the producers to hire child actors who were twins. In addition to the kids having reduced hours of availability, and the lack of professionalism exhibited by them, the cast and crew had to deal with the "stage moms, all of whom ought to be locked up" and the teachers for each kid. As Cole put it, "if the kid is a star you have to listen to the teacher as if she were speaking from on high"<ref name="cole"/> regardless of the reason.

Later, as told by Bunch, Futterman questioned the information in the planetarium scene in "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I]]," and believed the [[Arnie's meatballs|meatball]] joke in the same episode to be sexual innuendo—which resulted in Larson peppering additional meatball jokes in that episode, in addition to its conclusion, "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part II]]".<ref name="bunch"/>

==Syndication, VHS and DVD releases==

[[File:Title card 2.jpg|thumb|The ''Battlestar Galactica'' title card used from "[[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part III]]" and onward.]]

The ten series episodes were rolled into the television syndication package for ''Battlestar Galactica'' and were given the same title as its parent program. Some of the episodes were edited together to produce a VHS home video under the title ''Conquest of the Earth''. Very few out-of-print copies of the VHS release of ''Conquest of the Earth'' remain publicly on sale. Unlike its Original Series parent, ''Galactica 1980'' was late to release for home video.

As of August 2006, the [[Sci Fi Channel]] in America and the [http://www.spacecast.com/ SPACE Channel] in Canada periodically air the series. The three parts of the pilot were featured as part of SPACE's 2006 New Years Day marathon of the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}}.

In the US, a [[Galactica 1980 (Region 1 DVD)|DVD set]] of the series was released in December 2007. In the UK ''Galactica 1980'' was released on 18th February 2008 <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/3515623/Galactica-The-Complete-Series/Product.html|title=Play.com Galactica 1980|date=|accessfate=|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref>.

==エピソード・リスト==

# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I|緊急プロジェクト！テクノロジー導入で地球を救えＰａｒｔ１]] – January 27, 1980
# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part II|緊急プロジェクト！テクノロジー導入で地球を救えＰａｒｔ2]] – February 3, 1980
# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part III|緊急プロジェクト！テクノロジー導入で地球を救えＰａｒｔ3]] – February 10, 1980
# [[The Super Scouts, Part I|スーパースカウト隊登場！珍事件に町は大混乱]] – March 16, 1980
# [[The Super Scouts, Part II|スーパースカウト隊登場！町の未来を変えろ]] – March 23, 1980
# [[Spaceball|スーパー・キッズの野球大会]] – March 30, 1980
# [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I|危機一髪！サイロン初の地球上陸 Part 1]] – April 13, 1980 (guest-starring [[Wolfman Jack]])
# [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part II|危機一髪！サイロン初の地球上陸 Part 2]] – April 20, 1980 (guest-starring [[Wolfman Jack]])
# [[Space Croppers|宇宙式ミラクル農業！～農作のメカニズム～]] – April 27, 1980
# [[The Return of Starbuck|スターバックの旅　～ジー博士の夢～]] – May 4, 1980

==Notes==
[[File:Heroes.jpg|thumb|Troy, Hamilton and Dillon]]
* The series suffered from what are now considered science fiction clichés. For some fans, the addition of the mysterious [[Doctor Zee]], a prodigy child that serves as counsel to Adama, pushed their suspension of disbelief to the breaking point.

* Many fans of the Original Series over the years since the series' conclusion have demonstrated scorn for ''Galactica 1980'', often considering it [[canon|apocryphal]] with the exception of one episode: "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," whose story of the fate of a popular character of the Original Series was considered to be well written and full of the same energy found in many of of the Original Series episodes. (Battlestar Wiki treats this aired series as canonical for the purposes of this encyclopedia.)

* One curious Cylon character in the two-part episode, "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I|The Night the Cylons Landed]]" may be the one significant contribution to the "Galactica" saga. In the episode, [[Andromus|Cylons disguised in human form]] arrive on Earth to cause mayhem. Some 23 years later, the [[Re-imagined Series]] also introduced [[Humanoid Cylon|humanoid Cylons]] that wreak terror and havoc amongst the Colonies.
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== Official Statements ==

* ''[[Allan Cole]] discusses his thoughts on the show to John Larocque:''
: '''Allan Cole:''' Let's face it, ''Galactica 1980'' was an awful show. It deserved to be dropped. At the time, I remember that I posted a big sign on my office door with the number 13 on it. We had been told if the ratings dropped to 13 or below that we would be cut. Every morning my then partner, [[Chris Bunch]], and I would chant "Come on, 13!" Must have been a great mantra, because the show dropped steadily, week after week. ([S]o much for the nice writer's comments about building an audience.) Of course, Chris and I wanted out of our contracts in the worst way. ([W]e had just sold the [[w:The Sten Chronicles|Sten series]] and were desperate to get started). Because of the "family hour" timeslot, the censors were always making us put in "educational beats" for the kiddies. I personally told Susan Futterman, then head of the network's program practices, that they ought to open every episode of the show with an "educational" tag that read: "Why aren't you little bug snipes watching ''[[w:60 Minutes|60 Minutes]]''." (our, ahem, competition in that time slot) Susan wholeheartedly agreed with our sympathies.<ref name="cole"/>

* ''[[Glen A. Larson]] discusses [[Lorne Greene]]'s involvement with the spin-off in "[[Sciography]]":''
: '''Glen Larson:''' Lorne Greene called me and said his heart was broken over the fact that he wouldn't be in it. I don't think I've ever told anybody that, but I... I... I, um, I guess I reacted somewhat sympathetically to how he felt and, uh, rehired him. But it probably would've been better in terms of the cleanness and clarity to have gone forward some generations, and continued the trek.

* ''[[Anne Lockhart]] ([[Sheba]]) and [[Richard Hatch]] ({{TOS|Apollo}}) discuss their thoughts on the series:''
: '''Anne Lockhart:''' Well, I don’t know…when {{TOS|Boxey}} [[Troy (1980)|grew up]] into ''[[w:Adam-12|Adam-12]]'', I really got worried…and that long white beard on Lorne [Greene]….
: '''Richard Hatch:''' And [[Herb Jefferson Jr.|Herb [Jefferson Jr.]]]….
: '''Lockhart:''' Yeah, the snow that went in Herb’s hair! And everybody else died fighting the war. I thought it was pretty bad, frankly. I watched one episode and was so offended that I never watched another one. (to Richard) What did you think about it?
: '''Hatch:''' I think you summed it up pretty well!<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://geocities.ws/sjpaxton/galacon.html|title=1986 Galacon Q & A with Richard Hatch and Anne Lockhart|date=|accessdate=12 August 2007|last=Paxton|first=Susan J.|format=|language=}}</ref>

==ナレーション==

This is the [[opening credits|opening narration]] to ''Galactica 1980'', spoken by Commander Adama.

: {{audio|1980 series opening narration.mp3|''"The great ship ''Galactica'', our home for these many years. We've endured the wilderness of space, and now we near the end of our journey: we have at last found Earth."''}}

==Closing disclaimer ==

[[File:UFO disclaimer.jpg|thumb|Disclaimer seen in "[[The Super Scouts, Part II]]".]]

Affixed after (or overlaid on top of the freeze framed) final scenes of the ''1980'' episodes, starting with "[[The Super Scouts, Part II]]" and ending with "[[Space Croppers]]," is a disclaimer regarding [[Jack Sydell]]'s [[Air Force Special Detachment One]]:

: ''The United States Air Force stopped investigating UFOs in 1969. After 22 years, they found no evidence of extra-terrestrial visits and no threat to national security.''

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==注釈==
{{reflist}}

==外部リンク==
{{ext-wikipedia|article=Galactica 1980}}
* [http://battlestar.ugo.com/television/galactica_1980/default.asp UGO Galactica 1980 site]

{{Episode List (1980)}}

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* Other Series
** Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|The Original Series
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** Caprica (series)|''Caprica''
* See Also
** 2003 Video Game|2003 BSG video game
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[[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|オリジナル・シリーズ(Original Series)]]からのスピン・オフ。

''ギャラクティカ 1980''はアメリカのテレビ局ＡＢＣネットワークで1980年の1月27日から放送開始、その後同年の5月4日に最終話が放送された。

主な視聴者を子供に絞り、午後7時という家族向けの時間帯に放映されていた。

[[File:gal802.jpg|thumb|Opening shot from Galactica 1980]]

==Synopsis==

Set a generation after the Original Series, [[Battlestar (TOS)|battlestar]] ''{{TOS|Galactica}}'' and its [[The Fleet (TOS)|Fleet]] of 220 civilian ships finally discover [[Earth (TOS)|Earth]], only to find that the planet is technologically backward in relation to Colonial technology. As as result, Earth couldn't defend itself against the [[Cylon]]s as originally expected. Therefore, teams of [[Colonial Warrior]]s are covertly sent to the planet to work ''incognito'' with various members of the scientific community, hoping to quickly advance Earth's technology.

The promotional material for ''Galactica 1980'' sets the series at thirty years after the events of the Original Series.

Commander [[Adama (1980)|Adama]] and Colonel [[Boomer (1980)|Boomer]]—now second-in-command in place of Colonel {{TOS|Tigh}}—send Captain "Boxey" [[Troy (1980)|Troy]], the [[Serina|adopted son]] of Adama's own son {{TOS|Apollo}}, and Lt. [[Dillon]] to North America. The two become entangled with TV journalist [[Jamie Hamilton]] who aids them in devising ways to help Earth's scientists and outwit the Cylons.

[[File:GAL801.jpg|thumb|Captain Troy and Jamie Hamilton]]

===キャスト===

* [[Lorne Greene]] - [[Adama (1980)|Commander Adama]]
* [[Robyn Douglass]] - [[Jamie Hamilton]]
* [[Herb Jefferson Jr.]] - [[Boomer (1980)|Colonel Boomer]]
* [[Richard Lynch]] - [[Xavier]]
* [[Kent McCord]] - [[Troy (1980)|Captain Troy]]
* [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587863/ Allan Miller] - [[Colonel Sydell]]
* [https://www.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+James+Patrick+Stuart Patrick Stuart] - [[Doctor Zee]]
* [https://www.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Robbie+Rist Robbie Rist] - [[Doctor Zee]]
* [[Barry Van Dyke]] - [[Dillon|Lieutenant Dillon]]

Greene (Adama) and Jefferson (Boomer) were the only major cast members of the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}} to reprise their roles in first nine episodes, with [[Dirk Benedict]] reprising his role as [[Starbuck (1980)|Starbuck]] in the last episode.

==Short life==

The series had a promising start with a three-hour adventure that saw Troy, Dillon and Hamilton sent back in time to Nazi Germany to save the future, but the series could not sustain this momentum. The series was unceremoniously canceled after only ten episodes, many of which were multi-part stories, or what would be referred to now as story arcs.

The final episode, "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," was aired on May 4th, 1980. The final episode featured the return of [[Dirk Benedict]] as Lt. Starbuck from the Original Series in a flashback episode, but it wasn't enough to save the series. Repeats were aired through August 17th; the series was replaced by repeats of ''[[Wikipedia:Fantasy Island|Fantasy Island]]'' the following week.

==プロダクション==

In the fall of 1979, ABC Television and Universal Television approached [[Glen A. Larson]] to bring back ''Galactica'' series, and all the parties agreed that the discovery of Earth would be a suitable vehicle for drawing back viewers. However, many of the actors had moved on to other roles, most of the sets had been struck, and the time available for completing the production before the proposed January 1980 airdate was short. Actors and production personnel who worked on ''Galactica 1980'' describe a crazy shooting schedule that involved working on multiple episodes at the same time, last minute re-writes, and working days that extended well into the night.

As a result of having crews work overtime, the budget for the series continued to creep up in cost. That, in conjunction with ratings that went from historic highs with the first episode down to a dismal showing by April, spelled the early end of the program. [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0030.htm]

==Syndication and beyond==

The ten series episodes were rolled into the television syndication package for ''Battlestar Galactica'' and were given the same title as its parent program. Some of the episodes were edited together to produce a VHS home video under the title ''Conquest of the Earth.''

As of August 2006, the [http://www.scifi.com Sci-Fi Channel] periodically airs the series. Very few out-of-print copies of ''Conquest of the Earth'' remain publicly on sale. Unlike its Original Series parent, "Galactica 1980" is not yet available in DVD format and is not included in the Original Series DVD collection.

==エピソード・リスト==

# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I]] – January 27, 1980
# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part II]] – February 3, 1980
# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part III]] – February 10, 1980
# [[The Super Scouts, Part I]] – March 16, 1980
# [[The Super Scouts, Part II]] – March 23, 1980
# [[Spaceball]] – March 30, 1980
# [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I]] – April 13, 1980 (guest-starring [[Wolfman Jack]])
# [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part II]] – April 20, 1980 (guest-starring [[Wolfman Jack]])
# [[Space Croppers]] – April 27, 1980
# [[The Return of Starbuck]] – May 4, 1980

==Notes==

* The series suffered from what are now considered science fiction clichés. For some fans, the addition of the mysterious [[Doctor Zee]], a prodigy child that serves as counsel to Adama, pushed their suspension of disbelief to the breaking point.

* [[File:Heroes.jpg|thumb|Troy, Hamilton and Dillon]]Many fans see ''Galactica 1980'' as a poor, non-[[canon]]ical spin-off of the Original Series. Most fans exclude their contempt of this show when considering its last episode, "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," whose story of the fate of a popular character of the Original Series was well written and full of the same energy found in many of of the Original Series episodes.

* One curious Cylon character in the two-part episode, "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I|The Night the Cylons Landed]]" may be the one significant contribution to the "Galactica" saga. In the episode, [[Andromus|Cylons disguised in human form]] arrive on Earth to cause mayhem. Some 23 years later, the [[Re-imagined Series]] also introduced [[Humanoid Cylon|humanoid Cylons]] that wreak terror and havoc amongst the Colonies.

==ナレーション==

This is the opening narration to ''Galactica 1980'', spoken by Commander Adama.

''"The great ship ''Galactica'', our home for these many years. We've endured the wilderness of space, and now we near the end of our journey: we have at last found Earth."''

==See also==
{{ext-wikipedia|article=Galactica 1980}}
* [[Galactica (2003 Video Game)|Battlestar Galactica]], the 2003 video game
* [http://battlestar.ugo.com/television/galactica_1980/default.asp UGO Galactica 1980 site]
* [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080221/ IMDb Entry for Galactica 1980]

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{{disline|For the comic re-imagining based on the concept for this series, see: [[Galactica 1980 (comic)]].}}

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| composer=[[Stu Phillips]]
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| associate producer=[[David G. Phinney]] [[Tim King]]
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'''''Galactica 1980''''' is a [[spin-off]] of the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}}.

''Galactica 1980'' was first broadcast on the ABC Television Network in the United States from January 27, 1980, with its final episode first airing on May 4, 1980. Running for only 10 episodes, it was poorly received by both critics and viewers.

The series first aired in Sunday's 7:00 PM time slot, during what was known as the "family hour," targeting the show's audience primarily for children.

A [[Galactica 1980 (comic)|four-issue comic book series]] from Dynamite Entertainment, written by [[Marc Guggenheim]] and released beginning September 2009, approached this series's concept in a re-imagined format.

==Synopsis==

Set a generation after the Original Series, [[Battlestar (TOS)|battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (1980)|Galactica]]'' and its [[The Fleet (TOS)|Fleet]] of 220 civilian ships finally discover [[Earth (1980)|Earth]] but find that the planet is technologically backward in relation to Colonial technology. As a result, Earth couldn't defend itself against the [[Cylons (TOS)|Cylons]] as originally expected. Therefore, teams of [[Colonial Warrior]]s are covertly sent to the planet to work ''incognito'' with various members of the scientific community, hoping to quickly advance Earth's technology.

The promotional material for ''Galactica 1980'' sets the series at thirty years after the events of the Original Series.<ref group="magazine" name="willson_starlog34_galactica1980_premise">{{cite magazine|last=Willson|first=Karen E.|title=The New Faces of Galactica 1980|magazine=Starlog|issue=34|page=16|date=May 1980|publisher=O'Quinn Studios}}</ref>

Commander [[Adama (1980)|Adama]] and Colonel [[Boomer (1980)|Boomer]]—now second-in-command in place of Colonel {{TOS|Tigh}}—send Captain "Boxey" [[Troy (1980)|Troy]], the [[Serina|adopted son]] of Adama's own son {{TOS|Apollo}}, and Lt. [[Dillon]] to North America. The two become entangled with TV journalist [[Jamie Hamilton]] who aids them in devising ways to help Earth's scientists and outwit the handful of Cylons that discover the planet.

[[File:GAL801.jpg|thumb|Captain Troy and Jamie Hamilton]]
===Cast===

* [[Lorne Greene]] - [[Adama (1980)|Commander Adama]]
* [[Robyn Douglass]] - [[Jamie Hamilton]]
* [[Herb Jefferson Jr.]] - [[Boomer (1980)|Colonel Boomer]]
* [[Richard Lynch]] - [[Xaviar]]
* [[Kent McCord]] - [[Troy (1980)|Captain Troy]]
* [[Allan Miller]] - [[Colonel Sydell]]
* [[James Patrick Stuart]] - [[Doctor Zee]]
* [[Robbie Rist]] - [[Doctor Zee]]
* [[Barry Van Dyke]] - [[Dillon|Lieutenant Dillon]]

Greene (Adama) and Jefferson (Boomer) were the only major cast members of the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}} to reprise their roles in the ten episodes, with [[Dirk Benedict]] reprising his role as [[Starbuck (1980)|Starbuck]] in the last episode.

==Short life==
''Galactica 1980'' had a promising start in its ratings with a [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I|three-hour adventure]] that saw Troy, Dillon and Hamilton sent back in time to Nazi Germany to save the future, but the series could not sustain this momentum. The series was unceremoniously canceled after only ten episodes, many of which were multi-part stories, or what would be referred to now as [[w:Story_arcs|story arcs]].

The final episode, "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," aired on May 4th, 1980. The episode featured the return of [[Dirk Benedict]] as Lt. [[Starbuck (1980)|Starbuck]] in a flashback episode. The episode's popularity was too late to save the series. Repeats were aired through August 17th ("The Return of Starbuck"),<ref name="ultimate70s_august17_1980_schedule">{{cite_web|url=https://www.ultimate70s.com/seventies_history/19800817/television|title=Prime-time network TV listings for Sunday August 17, 1980|publisher=Ultimate70s.com|accessdate=8 November 2025}}</ref> and the series was replaced by repeats of ''[[Wikipedia:Fantasy Island|Fantasy Island]]'' beginning the following week.<ref name="ultimate70s_august24_1980_schedule">{{cite_web|url=http://ultimate70s.com/seventies_history/19800824/television|title=Prime-time network TV listings for Sunday August 24, 1980|publisher=Ultimate70s.com|accessdate=8 November 2025}}</ref>

==Production==

In the fall of 1979, ABC Television approached [[Glen A. Larson]] and Universal to bring back ''Galactica'' series.<ref group="magazine" name="willson_starlog34_galactica1980_pilot">{{cite magazine|last=Willson|first=Karen E.|title=The New Faces of Galactica 1980|magazine=Starlog|issue=34|page=16|date=May 1980|publisher=O'Quinn Studios}}</ref> According to ''1980'' story editor [[Chris Bunch]], neither Larson nor Universal wanted to do the series at all. Bunch claims that both parties were threatened to do the series for reasons which were not known to him, and attributes the reason that Larson agreed to do the series to "[whore] for the money with a bad attitude."<ref name="bunch">{{cite_web|url=http://geocities.ws/sjpaxton/bunch.html|title=Battlestar Zone Interview: Chris Bunch|date=|accessdate=11 August 2007|last=Paxton|first=Susan J.|format=|language=}}</ref> This is also corroborated by Bunch's then-writing partner, [[Allan Cole]].<ref name="cole">{{cite_web|url=http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0030.htm|title=Interview with Galactica 1980 story editor Allan Cole|date=28 Feburary 2005|accessdate=11 August 2007|last=Larocque|first=John|format=|language=}}</ref>

[[File:Galactica 1980 article - Starlog Magazine.jpg|thumb|left|Starlog #34, May 1980 issue.]]
All the parties agreed that the discovery of Earth would be a suitable vehicle for drawing back viewers. However, many of the actors had moved on to other roles, most of the sets had been struck, and the time available for completing the production before the proposed January 1980 airdate was short. Actors and production personnel who worked on ''Galactica 1980'' describe a crazy shooting schedule that involved working on multiple episodes at the same time, last minute re-writes, and working days that extended well into the night.<ref group="magazine" name="willson_starlog34_douglass_schedule">{{cite magazine|last=Willson|first=Karen E.|title=The New Faces of Galactica 1980|magazine=Starlog|issue=34|page=16|date=May 1980|publisher=O'Quinn Studios}}</ref>

Bunch notes that both he and Cole were "literally blackmailed into the gig because of ostensible expertise in SF."<ref name="bunch"/> They (including [[Robert L. McCullough]]) were story editors for the series, and would chant "Come on, 13" every morning. "13" was the ratings number that, should ''1980'' ever hit or go below it, would result in the series' cancellation.<ref name="cole"/>

Larson wrote or rewrote the entire series' worth of episodes from either [[w:Hawaii|Hawaii]] or [[w:Malibu|Malibu]].<ref name="bunch"/> Further episode rewrites happened on the sets just prior to shooting.<ref name="cole"/> Additionally, there was no clearly defined purpose to the show prior to development, as the purpose of the show changed on a daily basis. Additionally, new characters were created for the series, and then subsequently dropped as though they never existed.<ref name="cole"/>

As a result of having crews work overtime, the budget for the series continued to creep up in cost. That, in conjunction with ratings that went from historic highs with the first episode down to a dismal showing by April, spelled the early end of the program.<ref name="cole"/>

== Budget hell ==

Despite what Cole calls "revisionism" from people, such as lead actor [[Kent McCord]]—who claimed that they needed a way to "economize" ''Battlestar Galactica'', ergo ''1980''—ABC "knew very well that Glen [Larson] never met a budget that he didn't hate".<ref name="cole"/>

The series itself cost between $1.2 and 1.5 million to produce per episode; the $1.5 million number is the budget that "[[The Super Scouts, Part I]]" used. As ABC only paid $600,000 to $700,000 per episode, Universal was left to pay the remainder for each hour of programming.<ref name="cole"/>

Additionally, Cole notes that "there were almost as many producers listed on the show as secretaries. I mean, every day we'd be introduced to another guy who had just joined the staff as a new producer. I don't know what any of them did—we rarely saw them again—but they sure were collecting the bucks." He adds that this was Universal's decision as they "figured [that] if they were going to eat the big green slime anyway, they might as well take care of some obligations and dump all their losses into one (overflowing) bucket."<ref name="cole"/> This constant overflow of personnel to the series did nothing to alleviate the budget issues.

Ironically, the only episode that did not go over-budget was "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," and so Universal did not have to pay the remainder as, by that time, they were overspent.<ref name="cole"/>

== "Kiddie Hour," Standards and Practices, and "kids crawling out of your ears" ==

During its initial run, ''Galactica 1980'' was relegated to the 7 P.M. Sunday timeslot. Its only competition was that of [[w:CBS|CBS]]'s "television news magazine" ''[[w:60 Minutes|60 Minutes]]''.

This time-slot was deemed by Standards and Practices as children-friendly, and thus had restrictions as to the type of stories that could be told, or how they could be told.

The content of shows airing in this time-slot needed to be educational, and thus the Galacticans' lack of knowledge on Earth cultures and locations, and finding out about them through their [[wrist computron]]s came to satisfy this.

Furthermore, there could only be so many incidents of violence per episode. These incidents included shooting Cylons, despite the fact that they were robots; blowing up trees with laser pistols was also forbidden by ABC's censor, [[Susan Futterman]], who caused many of the series's problems according to Cole, making the show impossible to work on.<ref name="gs1">{{cite_web|url=http://alcole.blogspot.com/2006/04/galactia-story-1.html|title=Galactica Story #1|date=17 April 2006|accessdate=9 January 2007|last=Cole|first=Allan|format=|language=}}</ref>

Additionally, people in the series needed to be clean-cut and presentable, thus removing any ability to present realistic presentations of people. Furthermore, Standards and Practices complained to Larson that there weren't enough kids; according to Cole, Larson replied "Okay, I'll give you kids crawling out of your ears." This resulted in [[The Super Scouts]]<ref name="cole"/> and the episodes that they were featured in, notably "[[The Super Scouts, Part I]]," "[[The Super Scouts, Part II]]," "[[Spaceball]]" and "[[Space Croppers]]."

Unfortunately, shooting with large groups of children proved another major headache for the series, forcing the producers to hire child actors who were twins. In addition to the kids having reduced hours of availability, and the lack of professionalism exhibited by them, the cast and crew had to deal with the "stage moms, all of whom ought to be locked up" and the teachers for each kid. As Cole put it, "if the kid is a star you have to listen to the teacher as if she were speaking from on high"<ref name="cole"/> regardless of the reason.

Later, as told by Bunch, Futterman questioned the information in the planetarium scene in "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I]]," and believed the [[Arnie's meatballs|meatball]] joke in the same episode to be sexual innuendo—which resulted in Larson peppering additional meatball jokes in that episode, in addition to its conclusion, "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part II]]."<ref name="bunch"/>

==Syndication, VHS and DVD releases==

[[File:Title card 2.jpg|thumb|The ''Battlestar Galactica'' title card used from "[[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part III]]" and onward when sold as a part of the syndication package. ]]

The ten series episodes were rolled into the television syndication package for ''Battlestar Galactica'' and were given the same title as its parent program. Some of the episodes were edited together to produce a VHS home video under the title ''Conquest of the Earth''. Very few out-of-print copies of the VHS release of ''Conquest of the Earth'' remain publicly on sale. Unlike its Original Series parent, ''Galactica 1980'' was late to release for home video.

As of August 2006, the [[Sci Fi Channel]] in America and the [http://www.spacecast.com/ SPACE Channel] in Canada periodically air the series. The three parts of the pilot were featured as part of SPACE's 2006 New Years Day marathon of the {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}}.

In the US, a [[Galactica 1980 (Region 1 DVD)|DVD set]] of the series was released in December 2007. In the UK ''Galactica 1980'' was released on 18 February 2008 <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/3515623/Galactica-The-Complete-Series/Product.html|title=Play.com Galactica 1980|date=|accessfate=|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref>. The series was formally released on blu-ray in the US, remastered in both full-screen and widescreen formats, on 12 May 2015 alongside the [[Original Series]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Battlestar Galactica: The Definitive Collection|url=https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/15692/battlestargalacticathedefinitivecollection.html|publisher=High-Def Digest|date=1 June 2015|accessdate=8 November 2025|last=Nutt|first=Shannon T.}}</ref>

==Episode list==

# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I]] – January 27, 1980
# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part II]] – February 3, 1980
# [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part III]] – February 10, 1980
# [[The Super Scouts, Part I]] – March 16, 1980
# [[The Super Scouts, Part II]] – March 23, 1980
# [[Spaceball]] – March 30, 1980
# [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I]] – April 13, 1980 (guest-starring [[Wolfman Jack]])
# [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part II]] – April 20, 1980 (guest-starring [[Wolfman Jack]])
# [[Space Croppers]] – April 27, 1980
# [[The Return of Starbuck]] – May 4, 1980

==Notes==
[[File:Heroes.jpg|thumb|Troy, Hamilton and Dillon]]
* The series suffered from what are now considered science fiction clichés. For some fans, the addition of the mysterious [[Doctor Zee]], a prodigy child that serves as counsel to Adama, pushed their suspension of disbelief to the breaking point.

* Many fans of the Original Series over the years since the series' conclusion have demonstrated scorn for ''Galactica 1980'', often considering it [[canon|apocryphal]] with the exception of one episode: "[[The Return of Starbuck]]," whose story of the fate of a popular character of the Original Series was considered to be well written and full of the same energy found in many of of the Original Series episodes. (Battlestar Wiki treats this aired series as its own canon for the purposes of this encyclopedia, given Glen Larson's subsequent comments regarding ''1980'' being "Starbuck's bad dream.")

* One curious Cylon character in the two-part episode, "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I|The Night the Cylons Landed]]" may be the one significant contribution to the "Galactica" saga. In the episode, [[Andromus|Cylons disguised in human form]] arrive on Earth to cause mayhem. Some 23 years later, the [[Re-imagined Series]] also introduced [[Humanoid Cylon|humanoid Cylons]] that wreak terror and havoc amongst the Colonies.
== Official Statements ==

* ''[[Allan Cole]] discusses his thoughts on the show to John Larocque:''
: '''Allan Cole:''' Let's face it, ''Galactica 1980'' was an awful show. It deserved to be dropped. At the time, I remember that I posted a big sign on my office door with the number 13 on it. We had been told if the ratings dropped to 13 or below that we would be cut. Every morning my then partner, [[Chris Bunch]], and I would chant "Come on, 13!" Must have been a great mantra, because the show dropped steadily, week after week. ([S]o much for the nice writer's comments about building an audience.) Of course, Chris and I wanted out of our contracts in the worst way. ([W]e had just sold the [[w:The Sten Chronicles|Sten series]] and were desperate to get started). Because of the "family hour" timeslot, the censors were always making us put in "educational beats" for the kiddies. I personally told Susan Futterman, then head of the network's program practices, that they ought to open every episode of the show with an "educational" tag that read: "Why aren't you little bug snipes watching ''[[w:60 Minutes|60 Minutes]]''." (our, ahem, competition in that time slot) [[Susan Futterman|Susan]] wholeheartedly agreed with our sympathies.<ref name="cole"/>

* ''[[Glen A. Larson]] discusses [[Lorne Greene]]'s involvement with the spin-off in "[[Sciography]]":''
: '''Glen Larson:''' Lorne Greene called me and said his heart was broken over the fact that he wouldn't be in it. I don't think I've ever told anybody that, but I... I... I, um, I guess I reacted somewhat sympathetically to how he felt and, uh, rehired him. But it probably would've been better in terms of the cleanness and clarity to have gone forward some generations, and continued the trek.

* ''[[Anne Lockhart]] ([[Sheba]]) and [[Richard Hatch]] ({{TOS|Apollo}}) discuss their thoughts on the series:''
: '''Anne Lockhart:''' Well, I don't know…when {{TOS|Boxey}} [[Troy (1980)|grew up]] into ''[[w:Adam-12|Adam-12]]'', I really got worried…and that long white beard on Lorne [Greene]….
: '''Richard Hatch:''' And [[Herb Jefferson Jr.|Herb [Jefferson Jr.]]]….
: '''Lockhart:''' Yeah, the snow that went in Herb's hair! And everybody else died fighting the war. I thought it was pretty bad, frankly. I watched one episode and was so offended that I never watched another one. (to Richard) What did you think about it?
: '''Hatch:''' I think you summed it up pretty well!<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://geocities.ws/sjpaxton/galacon.html|title=1986 Galacon Q & A with Richard Hatch and Anne Lockhart|date=|accessdate=12 August 2007|last=Paxton|first=Susan J.|format=|language=}}</ref>

==Narration==

The first [[opening credits|opening narration]] to ''Galactica 1980'', spoken by Commander Adama, appears in "[[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I]]" (it has the screen title ''Galactica 1980'', and is the longer version of the narration):

: ''"The great ship ''Galactica'', majestic and loving, strong and protecting, our home for these many years we've endured the wilderness of space. And now we near the end of our journey. Scouts and electronic surveillance confirm that we have reached our haven, that planet which is home to our ancestor brothers. Too many of our sons and daughters did not survive to share the fulfilment of our dream. We can only take comfort and find strength in that they did not die in vain: we have, at last, found Earth."''<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpXjaofIS5g Galactica 1980 Intro - YouTube]</ref><ref>[http://kayerani.tripod.com/id3.html Galactica 1980]</ref>

A second/shorter version of the opening narration to ''Galactica 1980'' (same as the first version, without some of the monologue, and a very small difference in the tone of the punctuation dividing a middle sentence, in bold), also spoken by Commander Adama, appears in "[[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part II]]" and the following episodes until "The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I":

: ''"The great ship ''Galactica'', our home for these many years we've endured the wilderness of space. And '''now, we''' near the end of our journey: we have, at last, found Earth."''<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wvk1oDf2DE Galactica 1980 (1980) TV Series Intro - YouTube]</ref>

And there is a third version of the opening narration to ''Galactica 1980'' (same as the second version, except for two very small differences in the tone of the punctuation dividing a middle paragraph, in bold), also spoken by Commander Adama, which appears in "[[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I]]" and the remaining episodes of the series:

: {{audio|1980 series opening narration.mp3|''"The great ship ''Galactica'', our home for these many '''years. We've''' endured the wilderness of '''space, and''' now, we near the end of our journey: we have, at last, found Earth."''}}<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koe6ggwIAhE Galactica 1980 Episode Preview & Intro - YouTube]</ref>

==Closing disclaimer ==

[[File:UFO disclaimer.jpg|thumb|Disclaimer seen in "[[The Super Scouts, Part II]]".]]

Affixed after (or overlaid on top of the freeze framed) final scenes of the ''1980'' episodes, starting with "[[The Super Scouts, Part II]]" and ending with "[[Space Croppers]]," is a disclaimer regarding [[Jack Sydell]]'s [[Air Force Special Detachment One]]:

: ''The [[w:United States Air Force|United States Air Force]] stopped investigating UFOs in 1969. [[w:Project Blue Book|After 22 years]], they found no evidence of extra-terrestrial visits and no threat to national security.''

A similar disclaimer appeared on NBC's ''[[w:Project U.F.O.|Project U.F.O.]]'' (1978-79), placed at the tail end of the ending credits and superimposed over the official seal of [[w:Department of the Air Force|Department of the Air Force]]:

: ''The [[w:United States Air Force|United States Air Force]], after [[w:Condon Committee|twenty-two years of investigations]], concluded that none of the unidentified flying objects reported and evaluated posed a threat to our national security.''<ref>{{cite_web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn4qTuKm6Us&t=2899|title=YouTube: Project U.F.O. - S2E12 - The Whitman Tower Incident
|date=|accessdate=1 November 2020|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref>

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==Central character absences==

* [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I]]: Col. Boomer
* [[The Super Scouts, Part II]]: Col. Boomer
* [[Spaceball]]: Col. Boomer
* [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part I]]: Col. Boomer
* [[The Night the Cylons Landed, Part II]]: Col. Boomer, Jamie Hamilton
* [[The Return of Starbuck]]: Cpt. Troy, Lt. Dillon, Jamie Hamilton

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://galactica1981.tripod.com/BG80.htm Galactica 1980 series overview at Sheba's Galaxy]
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== TOS Cast List ==
I'd like to get a "Cast List" on this page similar to the RDM and 1980 show versions. The "regular cast" appears to be credited on each episode regardless of whether or not they actually appear (as noted in [[Baltar's Escape]]). I wondered who Jolly was for a while, after seeing him in the credits of several (later) episodes, but never having seen him during the show. I've got a cast list from the DVD box set, if that would be considered definitive enough for defining the "regulars". --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:42, 21 February 2006 (EST)

:[[Season 1 (1978-79)|Never mind.]] --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:33, 21 February 2006 (EST)

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