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2006-02-25T01:38:44Z

Numbertwelve:

There are twelve models.

Talk:Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II/Archive2

2006-02-25T01:38:20Z

Numbertwelve: /* The Cliffhanger */

== The Cliffhanger ==

I'm betting that Baltar's little gift to the [[Demand Peace]] movement makes its way to ''Pegasus'' and is about to destroy or mortally damage the battlestar in this season closer. Mortally damaging it makes more sense to allow ''Galactica'' (and the show) to gather some of the new resources that ''Pegasus'' brought before it has to be removed from the picture. Perhaps, in coordination with a probable Cylon attack, ''Pegasus'' may end up doing a "[[The Living Legend, Part II|Commander Cain charge]]" at the start of Season 3. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:52, 13 February 2006 (EST)

:Looks like I picked one hell of a week to quite drinking...--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 12:02, 13 February 2006 (EST)

::Is it just me, or does the second season seem to be bouncing from cliffhanger to cliffhanger, with the in-between episodes being nothing but filler? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:08, 13 February 2006 (EST)

:::It isn't just you... Looks like I picked one hell of a week to quit sniffing glue. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 12:22, 13 February 2006 (EST)

::::I don't mind the "filler" episodes. I believe you need them to set up future stories down the road. I believe PEGASUS will stick around for one or two episodes next year(Gives them time to strip her down)....Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines!--[[User:Quig|Quig]] 16:36, 15 February 2006 (EST)

There's no cliffhanger, really. The Cylons win, humanity is occupied and the ships of the fleet are essentially empty with everyone down on Cylon-occupied New Caprica. The show is completely different from here on out. Cloud Nine is gone (which from a production standpoint makes sense--- no need for a planet-like ship when they have an actual planet) and all the leads but Lee, Adama and possibly Sharon are on the planet, hoping not to be killed by their new Cylon overlords. It's awesome. Oh, girlBilly seems to be sticking around as a character as well. [[User:numbertwelve|numbertwelve]]

Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II

2006-02-25T01:33:07Z

Numbertwelve: /* Questions */

{{spoiler}}
{{Episode Data|
Image = [[Image:Universal_logo.jpg|300px]]
| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]
| Episode= 20
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]])<br>[[Kate Vernon]] ([[Ellen Tigh]])<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] ([[Brother Cavell]])
| Writer=
| Story=
| Director=
| Production=
| Rating=
| US Airdate=Not available
| UK Airdate=
| DVD=
| Population=
| Prev= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]
| Next= TBA
}}

== Overview ==

== Summary ==
Part two of a two-part season finale. The previous episode saw copies of [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] and [[Number Six|Six]] appearing to the fleet with a dubious peace proposal which had ominous strings attached. In order to derail any chance of the questionable peace accord going through, President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] has put the matter to a referendum vote and called on long-time rival/ally [[Tom Zarek]] for political support. This episode will no doubt feature the resolution of the issues presented in part one and may well end in yet another infamous ''Galactica'' cliff-hanger. ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096684/ Quantum Leap]'''s [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] is rumored to appear as Brother Cavill, a [[Humano-Cylon]] priest. Source: [http://www.patriotresource.com/bg/insights/spoilers.html The Patriot Resource]

The season finale, "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II", will be a '''90 minute special''' according to a release from Scifi Channel (which was previously attempted for "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]", but dropped). The Scifi release goes on to describe the episode:
:"With the '''presidential campaigning in full swing''', the election's outcome hinges upon a core debate -- whether or not to abandon the search for Earth when the Galactica crew discovers a '''habitable planet'''. When the election begins to swing in favor of Baltar (James Callis) -- a man whom Roslin is convinced is a Cylon collaborator -- the incumbent president must decide whether or not to take drastic measures for the greater good.
:Things become even further complicated when the Cylons, led by Caprica Six (Tricia Helfer) and Sharon (Grace Park), find the planet and offer humanity a '''stunning proposal of peace'''." [http://gateworld.net/galactica/news/2006/02/seasontwofinaleexpandedto9.shtml Gateworld]

== Questions ==

Where is Galactica's Sharon? Has she been cooling her heels in the brig for a year?

Is Adama keeping that awful moustache?

What happened to the two Dean Stockwell's?

Are the Cylons speaking with one voice or are there factions now?

Are the Cylons going to mention to humanity that their President is the one who screwed them in the first place?

Galactica is basiclly useless w/o a crew. What is Adama going to do?

Will the Cylons save Anderson with their superior medicine? How will this effect Starbuck?

Why are the Cylons looking for Starbuck?

What will happen when/if they find out about the Cylon/Human baby?

Will the Cylon-in-My-Brain ever be explained?

== Analysis ==

As promised, this episode is not only a cliff-hanger, but a complete reimagining of the reimagining. Let's look at the initial premises of the show and where they stand:

- The Cylons are out to destroy mankind.
Not anymore they don't. The Cylons are offer peace through occupation. Now, this sisn't exactly 'free to be you and me' love, but it's pretty clear that if the Cylons wanted to wipe out humanity, they could have- and they decide not to.

-The Cylons hate us.
Boomer and Caprica Six have clearly staged a political coup within the Cylon Empire/Confederation/ Grand Wickity Whack and have changed policy. It does sem that the shift is just from hating us to pitying us, but still- a vast improvement.

-Rosilyn is President.
Rosilyn is a political nobody now. Baltar tastefully redecorated Colonial One into a Bond villain's lair complete with slinky girls (obviously Six-in-My-Head wasn't around the year of settlement). Rosilyn has a lame job as a school teacher down on New Caprica, but she also has the Cylon baby.

-There's a fleet of ships. The Cylons are chasing us. We're searching for Earth.
Yes, but nobody's on them. No, because the Cylons have won and we've surrendered. No, unless Adama and the other fifteen people who are maintaining the Colonial Fleet decide to strike it out.

So, what to expect:

Basiclly, what has happened is the Cylon plan has been fulfilled, but modified along the way. Before, the Cylons were crazy machines trying to be human, now they are crazy machines trying to be "the best machines they can possibly be". This is important. The Cylon occupation isn't about revenge, but education. The Cylon's think their way of life is best and they are going to show the Humans how great Cylon living is. It'll probably work too. With their endless labor and cheap medicine, the Cylon occupation is probably going to be a vast improvement on the lives of the Colonials. Truth of the matter is that as Rosilyn and Adama point out, on their own the Colonials will die on New Caprica. There aren't enough resources and as we see, people are dying left and right. I don't think we should rule out the possibility that a Boomer/Caprica Six Cylon force may actually be trying to help. I doubt their "help" however is going to go over well

== Notes ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Official Statements ==

== Statistics ==

=== Guest Stars ===
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as Brother Cavill

=== Writing & Direction ===


=== Production Notes ===

*Series 2 (2005 / 2006)
*Production Number: 2.20
*Airdate Order: 20 (of 20)

=== First Run Air Dates & Releases ===

*UK Airdate: Date
*US Airdate: Date
*DVD Release (UK): Date
*DVD Release (US): Date
*[[Wikipedia:Nielsen Rating|Nielsen Rating]]: X.X million households, XXX share

{{Episode List}}

[[Category: A to Z]]
[[Category: RDM]]

Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II

2006-02-25T01:27:16Z

Numbertwelve: lotsa junk

{{spoiler}}
{{Episode Data|
Image = [[Image:Universal_logo.jpg|300px]]
| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]
| Episode= 20
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]])<br>[[Kate Vernon]] ([[Ellen Tigh]])<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] ([[Brother Cavell]])
| Writer=
| Story=
| Director=
| Production=
| Rating=
| US Airdate=Not available
| UK Airdate=
| DVD=
| Population=
| Prev= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]
| Next= TBA
}}

== Overview ==

== Summary ==
Part two of a two-part season finale. The previous episode saw copies of [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] and [[Number Six|Six]] appearing to the fleet with a dubious peace proposal which had ominous strings attached. In order to derail any chance of the questionable peace accord going through, President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] has put the matter to a referendum vote and called on long-time rival/ally [[Tom Zarek]] for political support. This episode will no doubt feature the resolution of the issues presented in part one and may well end in yet another infamous ''Galactica'' cliff-hanger. ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096684/ Quantum Leap]'''s [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] is rumored to appear as Brother Cavill, a [[Humano-Cylon]] priest. Source: [http://www.patriotresource.com/bg/insights/spoilers.html The Patriot Resource]

The season finale, "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II", will be a '''90 minute special''' according to a release from Scifi Channel (which was previously attempted for "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]", but dropped). The Scifi release goes on to describe the episode:
:"With the '''presidential campaigning in full swing''', the election's outcome hinges upon a core debate -- whether or not to abandon the search for Earth when the Galactica crew discovers a '''habitable planet'''. When the election begins to swing in favor of Baltar (James Callis) -- a man whom Roslin is convinced is a Cylon collaborator -- the incumbent president must decide whether or not to take drastic measures for the greater good.
:Things become even further complicated when the Cylons, led by Caprica Six (Tricia Helfer) and Sharon (Grace Park), find the planet and offer humanity a '''stunning proposal of peace'''." [http://gateworld.net/galactica/news/2006/02/seasontwofinaleexpandedto9.shtml Gateworld]

== Questions ==

== Analysis ==

As promised, this episode is not only a cliff-hanger, but a complete reimagining of the reimagining. Let's look at the initial premises of the show and where they stand:

- The Cylons are out to destroy mankind.
Not anymore they don't. The Cylons are offer peace through occupation. Now, this sisn't exactly 'free to be you and me' love, but it's pretty clear that if the Cylons wanted to wipe out humanity, they could have- and they decide not to.

-The Cylons hate us.
Boomer and Caprica Six have clearly staged a political coup within the Cylon Empire/Confederation/ Grand Wickity Whack and have changed policy. It does sem that the shift is just from hating us to pitying us, but still- a vast improvement.

-Rosilyn is President.
Rosilyn is a political nobody now. Baltar tastefully redecorated Colonial One into a Bond villain's lair complete with slinky girls (obviously Six-in-My-Head wasn't around the year of settlement). Rosilyn has a lame job as a school teacher down on New Caprica, but she also has the Cylon baby.

-There's a fleet of ships. The Cylons are chasing us. We're searching for Earth.
Yes, but nobody's on them. No, because the Cylons have won and we've surrendered. No, unless Adama and the other fifteen people who are maintaining the Colonial Fleet decide to strike it out.

So, what to expect:

Basiclly, what has happened is the Cylon plan has been fulfilled, but modified along the way. Before, the Cylons were crazy machines trying to be human, now they are crazy machines trying to be "the best machines they can possibly be". This is important. The Cylon occupation isn't about revenge, but education. The Cylon's think their way of life is best and they are going to show the Humans how great Cylon living is. It'll probably work too. With their endless labor and cheap medicine, the Cylon occupation is probably going to be a vast improvement on the lives of the Colonials. Truth of the matter is that as Rosilyn and Adama point out, on their own the Colonials will die on New Caprica. There aren't enough resources and as we see, people are dying left and right. I don't think we should rule out the possibility that a Boomer/Caprica Six Cylon force may actually be trying to help. I doubt their "help" however is going to go over well

== Notes ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Official Statements ==

== Statistics ==

=== Guest Stars ===
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as Brother Cavill

=== Writing & Direction ===


=== Production Notes ===

*Series 2 (2005 / 2006)
*Production Number: 2.20
*Airdate Order: 20 (of 20)

=== First Run Air Dates & Releases ===

*UK Airdate: Date
*US Airdate: Date
*DVD Release (UK): Date
*DVD Release (US): Date
*[[Wikipedia:Nielsen Rating|Nielsen Rating]]: X.X million households, XXX share

{{Episode List}}

[[Category: A to Z]]
[[Category: RDM]]