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The Battlestar Galactica Drinking Game

2006-12-16T21:33:43Z

Mrxerox:

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''This page relates to heavy drinking (both of characters and wiki contributors) as a result of gaffes from the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. For information that will improve gnashing of your teeth or suicidal tendencies, please watch "[[Galactica 1980]]."''<br/><br/>

[[Image:Tighsdrinking.jpg|right|300px|Bottoms up, Colonel.]]

Other TV shows have had [[Wikipedia:Drinking game|drinking games]] adapted from the venerable "Hi, Bob!" game, among others. The new "[[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar Galactica]]" series has sadly failed to stop ''Battlestar Wiki's'' contributors from doing the same after noticing repeated plot points, parallels to current events, characterizations, and other silliness.

You might consider creating your own ''Cylon Shooters'' for use in the game by [[Cylon Shooter|following the recipe]] given by actors [[Grace Park]] and [[Tahmoh Penikett]].

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=='''''Take a drink every time...'''''==

=== ...Colonel Saul Tigh... ===
[[Image:Saulellen.jpg|thumb|right|"Consumption of [certain] beverages...may cause health problems."]]
*...drinks alcohol ([[Miniseries]], [[Fragged]], [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]], etc.).
*...resolves to quit drinking.
*...is drunk on duty ([[Bastille Day]], [[Fragged]]).
*...questions Adama's orders.
*...complains about not wanting his own command ([[Scattered]]).
*...berates someone else for a flaw he has as well ([[Miniseries]]).
*...states or asks the obvious for purposes of exposition ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).
*...orders someone report "to the brig" ([[Miniseries]], ''others'').
*...asks about shooting people for throwing coffee ([[Resistance_(episode)|Resistance]])
*...gives a remarkably stupid order to the crew.
*''Take a bonus drink if...''
**...a loss of life is involved ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]], [[Exodus, Part II]]).
**...a beloved character needlessly suffers for it ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).
**...[[Lee Adama]] is involved with the order ([[Fragged]]).
**...the Fleet tells him, collectively, to [[frak]] off ([[Fragged]]).
**...Commander Adama has to repair Tigh's frak-ups.
**...Tigh undermines his own reputation as a result ([[Miniseries]], [[Fragged]], [[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).

=== ...Ellen Tigh... ===
*...makes sexual advances on someone other than Colonel Tigh ([[Colonial Day]], [[Sacrifice]], [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).
*...brokers for power ([[Colonial Day]]).
*...manipulates Colonel Tigh ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).
*...Fraks someone besides Colonel Tigh (A copy of Cavil, [[Occupation]])
*...Dies by Poison. ([[Exodus, Part II]])

=== ...Kara Thrace... ===
*...demonstrates yet another talent.
**Card Shark: "And the girl wins again! Another round?" ([[Water]])
**Sniper: "With all due respect, sir, I am the best shot in or out of the cockpit." ([[Bastille Day]])
**Painter: "You paint these, Kara? / Yeah." ([[Valley of Darkness]])
**Pro-level Pyramid Player: "I was scouted for the pros. Bum knee took me out of contention." ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]])
**Poetry Buff: "You wouldn't know Caprican Poetry if it was hot-sidded across your helmet." / "'From the darkness you must fall - Failed and weak, to darkness all.' -[[Kataris]], not one of his better works" ([[Final Cut]])
*...steps out of the box to...
**...mate two Vipers nose-to-nose in combat ([[Miniseries]]).
**...jury-rig an enemy fighter ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]).
**...uses an improvised weapon to kill or maim a Cylon ([[Flesh and Bone]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[The Farm]], [[Occupation]]).
**...outwit the Cylons via a clever plan of attack ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).
***''Take a bonus drink if this is because she knows the Cylons would never overlook such an obvious blind spot ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]], [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).''
*...drinks as heavily as Col. Tigh ([[Scar]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).
*...assaults someone who outranks her ([[Miniseries]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).
*...is mistaken for a Cylon and nearly killed because of it ([[You Can't Go Home Again]], [[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]], [[Home, Part I]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
*...hops into bed on a barely-considered whim.
**Gaius Baltar ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]])
**Samuel Anders ([[The Farm]])
**Lee Adama ([[Scar]])
*...starts to unduly fawn over someone mere days after meeting them.
**Samuel Anders ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]])
**Admiral Cain ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II|Part II]])
*...Taunts someone (Take your pick of episodes)

===...Lee Adama... ===
*...uses one of his dad's phrases ("Be careful out there", "roll the hard six")
*...completely oversteps his authority and/or commits mutiny
*...acts self-righteous or angsty towards his dad ([[Miniseries]], [[Bastille Day]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
*...has a near-death experience.
**Nearly killed by [[Cylon Raiders]] ([[Miniseries]], "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]")
**Almost left for dead ([[Miniseries]], "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]")
**Almost killed by a criminal mob or elements thereof ("[[Bastille Day]],", "[[Home, Part II]]," "[[Black Market]]").
**Almost killed by [[Cylon Centurion]]s ("[[Valley of Darkness]]," "[[Home, Part I]]")
**Almost killed by gangsters. ([[Black Market]])
*...shows angst about anything...''anything at all'' ('''''Just pick a frakking episode!''''')
*...is called a fatass ([[Occupation]]).

===...Kara Thrace and Lee Adama...===
*...stare at each other strangely for non-work-related reasons.
*...exchange blows
*...kiss
**''Take a bonus drink if they both kiss '''''and''''' exchange blows.''

===...Bill Adama...===
*...uses his Glare of Death.
**''Bonus drink if Cottle deflects it with his own Scowl of Intense Disapproval'' ([[The Captain's Hand]]).
*...stomps down ''Galactica'''s hallways.
*...waxes philosophically.
*...brings up his [[Joseph Adama|lawyer father]].
*...says either "as of this moment" or "moments ago" ([[Miniseries]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[Epiphanies]])
*...expresses sympathy for the Cylons.
*...expresses an enthusiastic attitude toward killing Cylons.
**''Take a bonus drink if it is by trying kill a Cylon himself''
***''Finish the drink completely if he tries to kill the same Cylon he expressed sympathy for in a previous episode.''
*...agrees with, argues with, deposes, or kisses President Roslin.
*...appears on screen sporting a moustache.
*...does something "captainly", like crushing walnuts in his hand or building a model ship.
*...uses military action to resolve a situation.
*...makes a recklessly stupid command decision.
**Counterattacking the Cylons ([[Miniseries]])
**Wasting half the fleet's [[tylium|fuel]] looking for Starbuck ([[You Can't Go Home Again]])
**Arresting President Roslin ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
**Sending Marines to rescue Helo and the Chief from ''Pegasus'' ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]])
**Arranging for the assassination of Admiral Cain ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
**Jumping ''Galactica'' into the atmosphere of New Caprica ([[Exodus, Part II]])
**''Bonus drinks if a woman tries to reason with Adama.''
:*Roslin tells Adama, "The war is over, we lost", and "We need to start having babies" ([[Miniseries]])
:*Dualla tells Adama, "It's time to put the fleet back together" ([[Home, Part I]])
:*Roslin tells Adama, "[[Helena Cain|She]] is dangerous, and the only thing that you can do is hit her before she hits you," ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
:*Sharon tells Adama, "You said you never asked yourself why you deserve to survive." ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
::*''Finish your drink completely when, not if, Adama ultimately relents, echoing that woman's words to his officer(s).''
*...Rolls a "Hard Six"

=== ...Helo acts like an idiot... ===
*...fails to notice his robot girlfriend's glowing spine. ([[Six Degrees of Separation]])
*...fails to realize his inexplicably nauseous robot girlfriend is pregnant ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).
*...shoots his pregnant robot girlfriend ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).
*...lets his pregnant robot girlfriend jack Starbuck's spaceship ([[Scattered]]).
*...is surprised that everyone wants to shoot or throw his pregnant robot girlfriend out an airlock ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]], [[Home, Part I]]).
*...fails to anticipate territory issues with his pregnant robot girlfriend's copy's former boyfriend ([[Home, Part II]]).
*...saves the Cylons ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).
*...trades radiation badges with Kat, ultimately leading to her death ([[The Passage]]).

=== ...Chief Tyrol acts like a moron... ===
*...fails to notice his robot girlfriend's glowing spine. (off-screen)
*...makes out with a lieutenant against regulations ([[Litmus]]).
*...lies about making out with his robot girlfriend ([[Litmus]]).
*...lies when he says he never loved his robot girlfriend.
*...chews out a member of his crew who dare to show concern about his feelings about his robot girlfriend - or anything else, for that matter ([[Miniseries]], [[Flight of the Phoenix]]).
*...is proven to be an expert distiller ([[Litmus]], [[Flight of the Phoenix]], [[Pegasus_(episode)|Pegasus]]).
*...glares at or curses Colonel Tigh.
**...''or anyone else for that matter'' ("If I scratched everyone who popped off at the chief the cooks could be flying the planes" - Lee Adama, "[[Final Cut]]")

=== ...Dr. Cottle disrespects authority... ===
*...disregards President Roslin's office ([[Act of Contrition]])
*...undermines Cdr. Adama's authority ([[The_Captain's_Hand|The Captain's Hand]])
*...rebuffs a question from Col. Tigh with profanity ([[Fragged]])
*...ridicules Col. Tigh's command decisions ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]])

===...Zarek makes a gambit for power...===
*...but loses.
**[[Colonial Day]]
**[[Home, Part I]]
**[[Home, Part II]]
*...and succeeds.
**[[Bastille Day]]
**[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]
**[[Collaborators]]

=== ...a copy of [[Number Six]] dies... ===
*Nuked ([[Miniseries]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])
**Take another drink if the nuke scene is repeated again in flashback ([[33]], [[Downloaded]])
*Shot ([[33]], [[Precipice]])
**Take a bonus drink if she is shot by a fellow Cylon.
*Impaled ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
*Extinguished ([[The Farm]])
*Bombed ([[Occupation]])
*Choked ([[Torn]])
*Infected ([[Torn]])
*Suffocated ([[A Measure of Salvation]])

=== ...a copy of Number Six becomes violent or threatens violence... ===
*Breaks a baby's neck ([[Miniseries]] as Caprica-Six)
*Screams in Baltar's face ([[Bastille Day]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Beats the crap out of Caprica-Valerii ([[Litmus]] as [[Number Six#Caprican Overseer Copies|an overseer]])
*Threatens live-donor open heart surgery on Baltar ("As far as I'm concerned, you can have any woman you want. But always remember, I have your heart <nowiki>[...]</nowiki> I can always rip it out of your chest if I have to.") ([[Colonial Day]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Chokes Baltar ([[Litmus]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Smashes Baltar's face into a mirror ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Kicks the hell out of Starbuck ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
*Tackles Baltar ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]] as [[Gina]])
*Breaks a guard's neck ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] as Gina)
*Shoots Admiral Cain ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] as Gina)
*Chokes Baltar with his tie ([[Epiphanies]])
*Shoves Baltar and bites his lip ([[Epiphanies]] as Gina)
*Cuts her own face ("[[Downloaded]]" as [[Caprica-Six]])
*Bashes [[Number Three]]'s head in with a rock ("[[Downloaded]]" as [[Caprica-Six]])
[[Image:Cloud9Destroyed.jpg|thumb|right|Kablooey!]]
''Take two bonus drinks if she goes nuclear.''
*Suicide-bombs ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]" as Gina)

=== ...[[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Baltar's Internal Six|Baltar's internal Six]] appears at an inopportune moment... ===
''Take a bonus drink if...''
*...Baltar tries to subtly talk to both Six and real people at the same time (e.g. [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]: "I'm not your plaything!").
**''Take another drink if both Six and the "real" person or people Baltar is talking to respond the same way (e.g. "Plaything?").''
*...Six tries to engage Baltar in either sex or foreplay.
*...Baltar makes awkward attempts at excusing his odd behavior.
*...others comment on Baltar's sanity or lack thereof.
*...Six appears while he's in the bathroom.
*...Six appears after he's had sex with another woman.
*...Six appears naked.

=== ...someone endangers a baby or threatens to do so. ===
*Caprica-Six ([[Miniseries]])
*Commander [[William Adama|Adama]], in [[Gaius Baltar]]'s dream on [[Kobol]] ([[Scattered]])
*Laura Roslin ([[Downloaded]][[Epiphanies]])
*Kara Thrace ([[Occupation]])

=== ...anyone smokes (literally or figuratively)... ===
*Gaius Baltar
*Dr. Cottle
*Kara Thrace
*Specialist [[Prosna]]
*Lee Adama
*[[Socinus]] ([[Scattered]])
*Laura Roslin
*Bill Adama

=== ...any male character sticks it in a [[toaster]]... ===
*Helo ([[Six Degrees of Separation]])
*Gaius Baltar ([[Miniseries]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])
*Galen Tyrol ([[Miniseries]], [[Litmus]])
*A large number of men from battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus']]'' crew ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]])
*[[Alistair Thorne]]

=== ...People get away with breaking the rules... ===
*Tyrol gets away with his hidden affair with Boomer, even when it leads to a security flaw that allows a Cylon suicide bomber to attack the ship ([[Litmus]])
*Starbuck gets away with stealing and ultimately losing ''Galactica'''s captured Cylon Raider. ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]])
*Boomer gets away with trying to kill herself and ends up on a vitally important mission ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
*Baltar gets away with murdering [[Crashdown]] ([[Fragged]])
*Apollo gets away with pulling a gun on Tigh ([[Scattered]]) and helping Roslin escape ([[Home, Part II]])
*Helo gets away with pulling a gun on Apollo ([[Home, Part I]])
*President Roslin ultimately gets away with subverting the boundary between military and civilian government ([[Home, Part II]]).
*Commander Adama ultimately gets away with subverting the boundary between military and civilian government ([[Litmus]], [[Home, Part II]]).
*[[Kat]] gets away with getting high on drugs during flight (reinstated in "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]")
*Starbuck gets away with (and gets promoted for) stealing the Blackbird to fly a photo recon mission that her CAG specifically took her off of ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
*Lee Adama gets away with law enforcement by summary execution ([[Black Market]])
*Lee gets away with making repeated visits to a prostitute ([[Black Market]])
*Kat gets away with punching Starbuck in the mouth ([[Scar]])
*Lee gets away with an affair with Dee, a fellow active duty soldier ([[The Captain's Hand]])
*Tyrol gets away with beating the crap out of someone with nothing more than a stern talking to from a [[Cavil|priest]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]])
*[[The Circle]] gets away with summarily executing 14 people ([[Collaborators]])
*[[Helo]] is not investigated after he asphyxiates the military assets, infected Cylons, that were going to be used to eliminate the Cylons as a threat to humanity ([[A Measure of Salvation]])

===Miscellaneous===
*...a prayer or speech includes or ends with "So Say We All!"
::If "So Say We All!" is said once, then repeated by a group, only one drink is required for that pair of utterances.
*...Roslin throws (or threatens to throw) a Cylon out the airlock.
*...Roslin uses her Stare of You-Gotta-Be-Frakking-Kidding-Me.
*...[[Billy Keikeya|Billy]] and [[Anastasia Dualla|Dee]] stare at each other like two teenagers but never actually do anything.
*...Gaeta says, "Yes, sir." (''On this one, alone, most of us would need a "commercial break"'' after one episode...)
*...Apollo's modesty is thwarted by the smallest towel in the fleet.
*...[[Jammer]] says something that hints that he may be a Cylon.
*...Roslin comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of the Fleet's travails.
*...Elosha comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of Roslin's travails.
*...Six comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of Baltar's travails.
*...Leoben comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of Starbuck's travails.
*...A Cylon says "By your command".
*...Someone gets promoted (Just ''pick an episode''.)
**Take two drinks if someone is promoted twice in one episode (Major Lee Adama to Commander Lee Adama in "[[The Captain's Hand]]").
*...[[CIC]] bursts into applause. ([[Miniseries]], [[Water]], [[You Can't Go Home Again]], [[The Hand of God (RDM)|Hand of God]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[The Farm]], [[Home, Part I]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
**Bonus drink if the applause precedes an assassination attempt ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
*...A never-before-seen guest star turns out to be a Cylon
**[[Simon]] ([[The Farm]])
**[[Number Three]] / D'anna Biers ([[Final Cut]])
**[[Cavil]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])
*...a Cylon refers to not seeing someone at a Cylon meeting or party ([[Cylon-Related_Hallucinations#Baltar's_Internal_Six|Baltar's Internal Six]] in [[Miniseries]], [[Cavil]] in [[Lay_Down_Your_Burdens,_Part_I|Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]])

===Production===
*...Michael Rymer's camera makes a full 360° revolution.
**''In this case, everyone in the room must spin around until the scene is over.''
*...Michael Rymer cross-cuts between two nearly identical scenes. ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
**''In this case, link arms with someone else and take a shot together.''
*...the producers re-use stock special effects footage.
**...when you spot the "USS Enterprise" lurking in the Fleet.
**...an establishing shot of ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' from the side, surrounded by the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]].
**...an establishing shot of ''Galactica'' from the top.
**...an establishing shot of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' from the side.
**...the civilian fleet jump from the [[Miniseries]].
**...the Viper Launch sequence.
**...the Viper [[Combat landing|Combat Landing]] sequence. (numerous episodes)
**...''Take another drink if the the stock footage leads to logic gaps.''

===Music===
*...Bear McCreary re-uses stock musical cues.
**The Number Six/Cylon [[Wikipedia:leitmotif|leitmotif]] ("ding..ding-ding..ding, ding...ding-ding...ding...")
**"Bloodshed" (the Adama death theme from [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]) in [[The Farm]], [[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] and [[Exodus, Part II]]
**"Prelude to War" in the [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] battle sequence
**The "Destiny/Baltar's Dream" leitmotif
**Starbuck's leitmotif ("Starbuck on the Red Moon")
*...Bear McCreary finds some excuse to use the Stu Phillips theme from the original series ("Colonial Anthem").
**[[Miniseries]] (Twice)
**[[Final Cut]]
*...Bear McCreary re-uses music from Richard Gibbs' [[Miniseries]] soundtrack.
*...Bear McCreary throws in some new musical influences out of nowhere.
**Hindu prayer - UK/Season Two opening
**Celtic folk song - "Wander My Friends" / "A Good Lighter" / "Reuniting the Fleet"
**Italian pseudo-opera - "Battlestar Operatica"
**Elevator music - "Battlestar Muzaktica"
**Heavy metal - "Standing in the Mud" / "Black Market"
**Orchestral piece - "The Shape of Things to Come" / "Passacaglia" / "Allegro" / "A Promise to Return"
**Electric Violin / Thundering Bass - "Destiny" / "Baltar's Dream"
**Classical Violin - "Roslin and Adama" / "Roslin Confesses"
**Piano - "Metamorphosis One" / "One Year Later"
**Guitar solo - "Pegasus" / "Something Dark is Coming"

==Official Statements==

From a ''Rolling Stone'' September 2006 Magazine interview of [[Katee Sackhoff]]

:"Four years ago, I had older men and twelve-year-olds coming up to me," she says. "Now I get sorority girls telling me, 'We watch the show and drink every time you say "frak," hit someone or sleep with someone.' And I'm thinking, 'This is why I didn't go to college.'"

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The Battlestar Galactica Drinking Game

2006-12-16T21:31:16Z

Mrxerox:

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''This page relates to heavy drinking (both of characters and wiki contributors) as a result of gaffes from the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. For information that will improve gnashing of your teeth or suicidal tendencies, please watch "[[Galactica 1980]]."''<br/><br/>

[[Image:Tighsdrinking.jpg|right|300px|Bottoms up, Colonel.]]

Other TV shows have had [[Wikipedia:Drinking game|drinking games]] adapted from the venerable "Hi, Bob!" game, among others. The new "[[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar Galactica]]" series has sadly failed to stop ''Battlestar Wiki's'' contributors from doing the same after noticing repeated plot points, parallels to current events, characterizations, and other silliness.

You might consider creating your own ''Cylon Shooters'' for use in the game by [[Cylon Shooter|following the recipe]] given by actors [[Grace Park]] and [[Tahmoh Penikett]].

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=='''''Take a drink every time...'''''==

=== ...Colonel Saul Tigh... ===
[[Image:Saulellen.jpg|thumb|right|"Consumption of [certain] beverages...may cause health problems."]]
*...drinks alcohol ([[Miniseries]], [[Fragged]], [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]], etc.).
*...resolves to quit drinking.
*...is drunk on duty ([[Bastille Day]], [[Fragged]]).
*...questions Adama's orders.
*...complains about not wanting his own command ([[Scattered]]).
*...berates someone else for a flaw he has as well ([[Miniseries]]).
*...states or asks the obvious for purposes of exposition ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).
*...orders someone report "to the brig" ([[Miniseries]], ''others'').
*...asks about shooting people for throwing coffee ([[Resistance_(episode)|Resistance]])
*...gives a remarkably stupid order to the crew.
*''Take a bonus drink if...''
**...a loss of life is involved ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]], [[Exodus, Part II]]).
**...a beloved character needlessly suffers for it ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).
**...[[Lee Adama]] is involved with the order ([[Fragged]]).
**...the Fleet tells him, collectively, to [[frak]] off ([[Fragged]]).
**...Commander Adama has to repair Tigh's frak-ups.
**...Tigh undermines his own reputation as a result ([[Miniseries]], [[Fragged]], [[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).

=== ...Ellen Tigh... ===
*...makes sexual advances on someone other than Colonel Tigh ([[Colonial Day]], [[Sacrifice]], [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).
*...brokers for power ([[Colonial Day]]).
*...manipulates Colonel Tigh ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).
*...Fraks someone besides Colonel Tigh (A copy of Cavil, [[Occupation]])
*...Dies by Poison. ([[Exodus, Part II]])

=== ...Kara Thrace... ===
*...demonstrates yet another talent.
**Card Shark: "And the girl wins again! Another round?" ([[Water]])
**Sniper: "With all due respect, sir, I am the best shot in or out of the cockpit." ([[Bastille Day]])
**Painter: "You paint these, Kara? / Yeah." ([[Valley of Darkness]])
**Pro-level Pyramid Player: "I was scouted for the pros. Bum knee took me out of contention." ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]])
**Poetry Buff: "You wouldn't know Caprican Poetry if it was hot-sidded across your helmet." / "'From the darkness you must fall - Failed and weak, to darkness all.' -[[Kataris]], not one of his better works" ([[Final Cut]])
*...steps out of the box to...
**...mate two Vipers nose-to-nose in combat ([[Miniseries]]).
**...jury-rig an enemy fighter ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]).
**...uses an improvised weapon to kill or maim a Cylon ([[Flesh and Bone]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[The Farm]], [[Occupation]]).
**...outwit the Cylons via a clever plan of attack ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).
***''Take a bonus drink if this is because she knows the Cylons would never overlook such an obvious blind spot ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]], [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).''
*...drinks as heavily as Col. Tigh ([[Scar]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).
*...assaults someone who outranks her ([[Miniseries]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).
*...is mistaken for a Cylon and nearly killed because of it ([[You Can't Go Home Again]], [[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]], [[Home, Part I]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
*...hops into bed on a barely-considered whim.
**Gaius Baltar ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]])
**Samuel Anders ([[The Farm]])
**Lee Adama ([[Scar]])
*...starts to unduly fawn over someone mere days after meeting them.
**Samuel Anders ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]])
**Admiral Cain ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II|Part II]])
*...Taunts someone (Take your pick of episodes)

===...Lee Adama... ===
*...uses one of his dad's phrases ("Be careful out there", "roll the hard six")
*...completely oversteps his authority and/or commits mutiny
*...acts self-righteous or angsty towards his dad ([[Miniseries]], [[Bastille Day]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
*...has a near-death experience.
**Nearly killed by [[Cylon Raiders]] ([[Miniseries]], "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]")
**Almost left for dead ([[Miniseries]], "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]")
**Almost killed by a criminal mob or elements thereof ("[[Bastille Day]],", "[[Home, Part II]]," "[[Black Market]]").
**Almost killed by [[Cylon Centurion]]s ("[[Valley of Darkness]]," "[[Home, Part I]]")
**Almost killed by gangsters. ([[Black Market]])
*...shows angst about anything...''anything at all'' ('''''Just pick a frakking episode!''''')
*...is called a fatass ([[Occupation]]).

===...Kara Thrace and Lee Adama...===
*...stare at each other strangely for non-work-related reasons.
*...exchange blows
*...kiss
**''Take a bonus drink if they both kiss '''''and''''' exchange blows.''

===...Bill Adama...===
*...uses his Glare of Death.
**''Bonus drink if Cottle deflects it with his own Scowl of Intense Disapproval'' ([[The Captain's Hand]]).
*...stomps down ''Galactica'''s hallways.
*...waxes philosophically.
*...brings up his [[Joseph Adama|lawyer father]].
*...says either "as of this moment" or "moments ago" ([[Miniseries]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[Epiphanies]])
*...expresses sympathy for the Cylons.
*...expresses an enthusiastic attitude toward killing Cylons.
**''Take a bonus drink if it is by trying kill a Cylon himself''
***''Finish the drink completely if he tries to kill the same Cylon he expressed sympathy for in a previous episode.''
*...agrees with, argues with, deposes, or kisses President Roslin.
*...appears on screen sporting a moustache.
*...does something "captainly", like crushing walnuts in his hand or building a model ship.
*...uses military action to resolve a situation.
*...makes a recklessly stupid command decision.
**Counterattacking the Cylons ([[Miniseries]])
**Wasting half the fleet's [[tylium|fuel]] looking for Starbuck ([[You Can't Go Home Again]])
**Arresting President Roslin ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
**Sending Marines to rescue Helo and the Chief from ''Pegasus'' ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]])
**Arranging for the assassination of Admiral Cain ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
**Jumping ''Galactica'' into the atmosphere of New Caprica ([[Exodus, Part II]])
**''Bonus drinks if a woman tries to reason with Adama.''
:*Roslin tells Adama, "The war is over, we lost", and "We need to start having babies" ([[Miniseries]])
:*Dualla tells Adama, "It's time to put the fleet back together" ([[Home, Part I]])
:*Roslin tells Adama, "[[Helena Cain|She]] is dangerous, and the only thing that you can do is hit her before she hits you," ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
:*Sharon tells Adama, "You said you never asked yourself why you deserve to survive." ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
::*''Finish your drink completely when, not if, Adama ultimately relents, echoing that woman's words to his officer(s).''
*...Rolls a "Hard Six"

=== ...Helo acts like an idiot... ===
*...fails to notice his robot girlfriend's glowing spine. ([[Six Degrees of Separation]])
*...fails to realize his inexplicably nauseous robot girlfriend is pregnant ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).
*...shoots his pregnant robot girlfriend ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).
*...lets his pregnant robot girlfriend jack Starbuck's spaceship ([[Scattered]]).
*...is surprised that everyone wants to shoot or throw his pregnant robot girlfriend out an airlock ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]], [[Home, Part I]]).
*...fails to anticipate territory issues with his pregnant robot girlfriend's copy's former boyfriend ([[Home, Part II]]).
*...saves the Cylons ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).
*...trades radiation badges with Kat, ultimately leading to her death ([[The Passage]]).

=== ...Chief Tyrol acts like a moron... ===
*...fails to notice his robot girlfriend's glowing spine. (off-screen)
*...makes out with a lieutenant against regulations ([[Litmus]]).
*...lies about making out with his robot girlfriend ([[Litmus]]).
*...lies when he says he never loved his robot girlfriend.
*...chews out a member of his crew who dare to show concern about his feelings about his robot girlfriend - or anything else, for that matter ([[Miniseries]], [[Flight of the Phoenix]]).
*...is proven to be an expert distiller ([[Litmus]], [[Flight of the Phoenix]], [[Pegasus_(episode)|Pegasus]]).
*...glares at or curses Colonel Tigh.
**...''or anyone else for that matter'' ("If I scratched everyone who popped off at the chief the cooks could be flying the planes" - Lee Adama, "[[Final Cut]]")

=== ...Dr. Cottle disrespects authority... ===
*...disregards President Roslin's office ([[Act of Contrition]])
*...undermines Cdr. Adama's authority ([[The_Captain's_Hand|The Captain's Hand]])
*...rebuffs a question from Col. Tigh with profanity ([[Fragged]])
*...ridicules Col. Tigh's command decisions ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]])

===...Zarek makes a gambit for power...===
*...but loses.
**[[Colonial Day]]
**[[Home, Part I]]
**[[Home, Part II]]
*...and succeeds.
**[[Bastille Day]]
**[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]
**[[Collaborators]]

=== ...a copy of [[Number Six]] dies... ===
*Nuked ([[Miniseries]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])
**Take another drink if the nuke scene is repeated again in flashback ([[33]], [[Downloaded]])
*Shot ([[33]], [[Precipice]])
**Take a bonus drink if she is shot by a fellow Cylon.
*Impaled ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
*Extinguished ([[The Farm]])
*Bombed ([[Precipice]])
*Choked ([[Torn]])
*Infected ([[Torn]])
*Suffocated ([[A Measure of Salvation]])

=== ...a copy of Number Six becomes violent or threatens violence... ===
*Breaks a baby's neck ([[Miniseries]] as Caprica-Six)
*Screams in Baltar's face ([[Bastille Day]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Beats the crap out of Caprica-Valerii ([[Litmus]] as [[Number Six#Caprican Overseer Copies|an overseer]])
*Threatens live-donor open heart surgery on Baltar ("As far as I'm concerned, you can have any woman you want. But always remember, I have your heart <nowiki>[...]</nowiki> I can always rip it out of your chest if I have to.") ([[Colonial Day]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Chokes Baltar ([[Litmus]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Smashes Baltar's face into a mirror ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]] as Baltar's internal Six)
*Kicks the hell out of Starbuck ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
*Tackles Baltar ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]] as [[Gina]])
*Breaks a guard's neck ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] as Gina)
*Shoots Admiral Cain ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] as Gina)
*Chokes Baltar with his tie ([[Epiphanies]])
*Shoves Baltar and bites his lip ([[Epiphanies]] as Gina)
*Cuts her own face ("[[Downloaded]]" as [[Caprica-Six]])
*Bashes [[Number Three]]'s head in with a rock ("[[Downloaded]]" as [[Caprica-Six]])
[[Image:Cloud9Destroyed.jpg|thumb|right|Kablooey!]]
''Take two bonus drinks if she goes nuclear.''
*Suicide-bombs ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]" as Gina)

=== ...[[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Baltar's Internal Six|Baltar's internal Six]] appears at an inopportune moment... ===
''Take a bonus drink if...''
*...Baltar tries to subtly talk to both Six and real people at the same time (e.g. [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]: "I'm not your plaything!").
**''Take another drink if both Six and the "real" person or people Baltar is talking to respond the same way (e.g. "Plaything?").''
*...Six tries to engage Baltar in either sex or foreplay.
*...Baltar makes awkward attempts at excusing his odd behavior.
*...others comment on Baltar's sanity or lack thereof.
*...Six appears while he's in the bathroom.
*...Six appears after he's had sex with another woman.
*...Six appears naked.

=== ...someone kills a baby or threatens to do so. ===
*Caprica-Six ([[Miniseries]])
*Commander [[William Adama|Adama]], in [[Gaius Baltar]]'s dream on [[Kobol]] ([[Scattered]])
*Laura Roslin ([[Downloaded]])

=== ...anyone smokes (literally or figuratively)... ===
*Gaius Baltar
*Dr. Cottle
*Kara Thrace
*Specialist [[Prosna]]
*Lee Adama
*[[Socinus]] ([[Scattered]])
*Laura Roslin
*Bill Adama

=== ...any male character sticks it in a [[toaster]]... ===
*Helo ([[Six Degrees of Separation]])
*Gaius Baltar ([[Miniseries]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])
*Galen Tyrol ([[Miniseries]], [[Litmus]])
*A large number of men from battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus']]'' crew ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]])
*[[Alistair Thorne]]

=== ...People get away with breaking the rules... ===
*Tyrol gets away with his hidden affair with Boomer, even when it leads to a security flaw that allows a Cylon suicide bomber to attack the ship ([[Litmus]])
*Starbuck gets away with stealing and ultimately losing ''Galactica'''s captured Cylon Raider. ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]])
*Boomer gets away with trying to kill herself and ends up on a vitally important mission ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])
*Baltar gets away with murdering [[Crashdown]] ([[Fragged]])
*Apollo gets away with pulling a gun on Tigh ([[Scattered]]) and helping Roslin escape ([[Home, Part II]])
*Helo gets away with pulling a gun on Apollo ([[Home, Part I]])
*President Roslin ultimately gets away with subverting the boundary between military and civilian government ([[Home, Part II]]).
*Commander Adama ultimately gets away with subverting the boundary between military and civilian government ([[Litmus]], [[Home, Part II]]).
*[[Kat]] gets away with getting high on drugs during flight (reinstated in "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]")
*Starbuck gets away with (and gets promoted for) stealing the Blackbird to fly a photo recon mission that her CAG specifically took her off of ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
*Lee Adama gets away with law enforcement by summary execution ([[Black Market]])
*Lee gets away with making repeated visits to a prostitute ([[Black Market]])
*Kat gets away with punching Starbuck in the mouth ([[Scar]])
*Lee gets away with an affair with Dee, a fellow active duty soldier ([[The Captain's Hand]])
*Tyrol gets away with beating the crap out of someone with nothing more than a stern talking to from a [[Cavil|priest]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]])
*[[The Circle]] gets away with summarily executing 14 people ([[Collaborators]])
*[[Helo]] is not investigated after he asphyxiates the military assets, infected Cylons, that were going to be used to eliminate the Cylons as a threat to humanity ([[A Measure of Salvation]])

===Miscellaneous===
*...a prayer or speech includes or ends with "So Say We All!"
::If "So Say We All!" is said once, then repeated by a group, only one drink is required for that pair of utterances.
*...Roslin throws (or threatens to throw) a Cylon out the airlock.
*...Roslin uses her Stare of You-Gotta-Be-Frakking-Kidding-Me.
*...[[Billy Keikeya|Billy]] and [[Anastasia Dualla|Dee]] stare at each other like two teenagers but never actually do anything.
*...Gaeta says, "Yes, sir." (''On this one, alone, most of us would need a "commercial break"'' after one episode...)
*...Apollo's modesty is thwarted by the smallest towel in the fleet.
*...[[Jammer]] says something that hints that he may be a Cylon.
*...Roslin comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of the Fleet's travails.
*...Elosha comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of Roslin's travails.
*...Six comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of Baltar's travails.
*...Leoben comes up with some vague mystical interpretation of Starbuck's travails.
*...A Cylon says "By your command".
*...Someone gets promoted (Just ''pick an episode''.)
**Take two drinks if someone is promoted twice in one episode (Major Lee Adama to Commander Lee Adama in "[[The Captain's Hand]]").
*...[[CIC]] bursts into applause. ([[Miniseries]], [[Water]], [[You Can't Go Home Again]], [[The Hand of God (RDM)|Hand of God]], [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[The Farm]], [[Home, Part I]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
**Bonus drink if the applause precedes an assassination attempt ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
*...A never-before-seen guest star turns out to be a Cylon
**[[Simon]] ([[The Farm]])
**[[Number Three]] / D'anna Biers ([[Final Cut]])
**[[Cavil]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])
*...a Cylon refers to not seeing someone at a Cylon meeting or party ([[Cylon-Related_Hallucinations#Baltar's_Internal_Six|Baltar's Internal Six]] in [[Miniseries]], [[Cavil]] in [[Lay_Down_Your_Burdens,_Part_I|Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]])

===Production===
*...Michael Rymer's camera makes a full 360° revolution.
**''In this case, everyone in the room must spin around until the scene is over.''
*...Michael Rymer cross-cuts between two nearly identical scenes. ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]])
**''In this case, link arms with someone else and take a shot together.''
*...the producers re-use stock special effects footage.
**...when you spot the "USS Enterprise" lurking in the Fleet.
**...an establishing shot of ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' from the side, surrounded by the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]].
**...an establishing shot of ''Galactica'' from the top.
**...an establishing shot of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' from the side.
**...the civilian fleet jump from the [[Miniseries]].
**...the Viper Launch sequence.
**...the Viper [[Combat landing|Combat Landing]] sequence. (numerous episodes)
**...''Take another drink if the the stock footage leads to logic gaps.''

===Music===
*...Bear McCreary re-uses stock musical cues.
**The Number Six/Cylon [[Wikipedia:leitmotif|leitmotif]] ("ding..ding-ding..ding, ding...ding-ding...ding...")
**"Bloodshed" (the Adama death theme from [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]) in [[The Farm]], [[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]], [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] and [[Exodus, Part II]]
**"Prelude to War" in the [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] battle sequence
**The "Destiny/Baltar's Dream" leitmotif
**Starbuck's leitmotif ("Starbuck on the Red Moon")
*...Bear McCreary finds some excuse to use the Stu Phillips theme from the original series ("Colonial Anthem").
**[[Miniseries]] (Twice)
**[[Final Cut]]
*...Bear McCreary re-uses music from Richard Gibbs' [[Miniseries]] soundtrack.
*...Bear McCreary throws in some new musical influences out of nowhere.
**Hindu prayer - UK/Season Two opening
**Celtic folk song - "Wander My Friends" / "A Good Lighter" / "Reuniting the Fleet"
**Italian pseudo-opera - "Battlestar Operatica"
**Elevator music - "Battlestar Muzaktica"
**Heavy metal - "Standing in the Mud" / "Black Market"
**Orchestral piece - "The Shape of Things to Come" / "Passacaglia" / "Allegro" / "A Promise to Return"
**Electric Violin / Thundering Bass - "Destiny" / "Baltar's Dream"
**Classical Violin - "Roslin and Adama" / "Roslin Confesses"
**Piano - "Metamorphosis One" / "One Year Later"
**Guitar solo - "Pegasus" / "Something Dark is Coming"

==Official Statements==

From a ''Rolling Stone'' September 2006 Magazine interview of [[Katee Sackhoff]]

:"Four years ago, I had older men and twelve-year-olds coming up to me," she says. "Now I get sorority girls telling me, 'We watch the show and drink every time you say "frak," hit someone or sleep with someone.' And I'm thinking, 'This is why I didn't go to college.'"

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Atmospheric shuttle

2006-12-16T16:07:46Z

Mrxerox:

:''For the [[Original Series]] counterpart, see [[Colonial Shuttle (TOS)]].''

{{Ship Data
| image= AtmoShutt.jpg
| title= Atmospheric shuttle
| race= Colonial
| type= Military/Civilian
| ftl= Yes
| crew= Unknown
| role= Short range [[FTL]] passenger transport between ships/planet surface
}}

'''Atmospheric shuttles''' are [[FTL|Jump]]-capable vessels whose primary role is ferrying passengers to and from the different vessels within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] or to a planet's surface.

Atmospheric shuttles appear on both military and civilian vessels. A shuttle is seen in the [[landing bay]] of battlestar ''[[Galactica]]'' ([[Miniseries]]) and on the hangar deck of ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).

An atmospheric shuttle ferries [[Laura Roslin faction|a group seeking the whereabouts of Earth]] to the [[Galleon Meadow]] on [[Kobol]] ([[Home, Part I]]), and docks to ''Galactica'' in "[[Act of Contrition]]." A shuttle is also seen at rest on the surface of [[New Caprica]] during its colonization, and during food retrieval efforts in [[The Eye of Jupiter]]

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The Passage

2006-12-16T14:58:36Z

Mrxerox:

{{Episode Data
| title= The Passage
| image=Season 3 - Promo - The Passage - Kat.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 10
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
| writer= [[Jane Espenson]]
| story=
| director= [[Michael Nankin]]
| production= 310
| rating=
| US airdate= 2006-12-08
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| podcast = Y
| population= 41,420
| prev= [[Unfinished Business]]
| next= [[The Eye of Jupiter]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''Starvation threatens the population after the food-processing systems become contaminated, but the Fleet is cut off from a food source by the intense radiation put out by a huge star cluster. ''Galactica'''s pilots must guide the civilian vessels on a dangerous journey directly through the radiation.''

== Summary ==
=== On ''[[Galactica]]'' ===
*[[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] flies a [[Raptor]] through a blinding, immensely bright gas cloud. The Raptor's outer skin is charring from the intense heat. Athena is managing to fight off the intense radiation buildup surrounding her, thanks to her [[Cylon agent|Cylon physiology]], but a radiation monitor badge she wears is changing color from white, spotting to an ominous black.
*Elsewhere in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], President [[Laura Roslin]] summarizes the contamination of the basic foodstuff material storage used to feed everyone, from soldier to civilian. The situation is dire; 7 to 10 days of rations remain. The Fleet is starving.
*A group of pilots, including [[Lee Adama]], [[Kara Thrace]], [[Hot Dog]] and [[Louanne Katraine]], are combining what little food they have and sharing it, down to the last crumb.
*Admiral [[William Adama]] and his command staff await Athena's return from her reconnaisance mission to what they believe is a [[Algae planet|planet with algae]]. The algae, according to Dr. [[Cottle]], isn't extremely palatable but is protein-rich and will allow them to restock their food stores and survive. Athena is three hours late from return.
*Athena does make it back to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''. While her radiation badge is black, her Cylon physiology protects her (although she is obviously uncomfortable). She reports success; the planet is teeming with algae.
*But the travel through the star cluster is extremely dangerous. Two [[FTL|jumps]] are required to reach the planet on the other side of the cluster, which cannot be circumnavigated. The navigation computers of any civilian ships inside the cluster would be inoperative due to insufficient shielding and the intense radiation leaves a ship only minutes to gather their bearings for the second jump out before they absorb a fatal dose of radiation. Any ship would also have to endure the intense heat as well.
*''Galactica'' alone cannot be used to ferry the people, and the civilian ships alone would not make the trip as they would get lost within the cluster cloud. There is too much algae for ''Galactica'' to bring the food to the people in time.
*The Adamas consider the use of the Raptors, whose navigation systems are radiation-hardened to protect against nuclear strikes, as pilot ships that will guide a group of civilian ships at a time by visual reckoning, relaying the proper jump coordinates once visual sighting is made to get the ships to the other side. Five jumps are needed, and skeleton crews are used on each civilian ship to limit the Fleet's possible losses, with the civilians temporarily transferred to ''Galactica'', which will survive the radiation effects thanks to the [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar's]] dense hull plating ([[Miniseries]]).
*A group of civilians are bunked on ''Galactica'' from the civilian ships. One of them recognizes Kat, but calls out for her by another name: "Sasha." Kat reacts angrily to the man, [[Enzo]], and barely acknowledges his call before warning him to back off.
*The pilots are briefed on the plan, and each given radiation badges. When Major Adama encourages the use of [[stims]], Kat objects, warning that stims work by boosting the body's metabolism. In their starvation state, the stims would make them ill. Adama leaves the use of the drug to the pilot's discretion.
*Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] returns to the [[CIC]] and is greeted by a round of applause from the crew. He promptly reminds them that they have "jobs to do," resuming his post as [[XO]] of ''Galactica''. Admiral Adama keeps a quiet smile to himself as he notices Tigh's return, knowing his friend would not care to be particularly noticed.
*The first outbound flight into the cluster begins. The ''[[Adriatic]]'' is lost when its Raptor guide, flown by [[Hot Dog]], cannot locate her.
*Successive trips continue, but another ship, the ''[[Carina]]'', guided by Kat, is lost as well, which greatly angers and saddens her. She stays in the cloud a few minutes too long during her extended search, and her radiation badge becomes dark.
*In the [[hangar deck]], Thrace notices Enzo interacting with Kat and gets suspicious. She later questions Enzo and later, Kat.
*Kat begs Thrace not to tell Admiral Adama about her past life as a drug runner and the fact that she acquired her name, "Louanne Katraine," from a child that died two days before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], using it to clear ''Galactica'''s pilot screening when she was a [[nugget]]. Thrace accepts her offer, warning her to embrace who she really is.
*Feeling backed into a corner, Kat is physically stressed. Her hair is falling out, a sign of radiation poisoning. Fearful of what will happen to her if Admiral Adama finds out about her past, she chooses to continue her Raptor flights, swapping her radiation badge with [[Helo]]'s. She allows herself a sexual romp with Enzo before preparing for the last outbound flight.
*The last outbound trip is more destructive. Even ''Galactica'' cannot withstand the heat and begins to suffer heat-related decompression failures throughout its hull. Adama orders his son to wrap out visual sighting and perform the escape jump.
*Kat cannot find her last ship. Realizing she had already absorbed too much radiation, she elects to remain in the cloud to continue searching for her lost ship.
*''Galactica'' waits for several frightening minutes until both Kat's Raptor and the last civilian ship rejoin them.
*Kat is greeted by the command staff and many crewmembers to celebrate her accomplishment. The young pilot pumps her arms in the air and tries to remove her helmet before she collapses from radiation poisoning.
*In [[sickbay]], Kara Thrace talks to Kat, whose exposure to the cloud's radiation was too extreme. Thrace recants a part of her conversation with Kat and her origins, and tries unsuccessfully to leave Kat's bedside with a smile before leaving the dying pilot with a bottle of sleeping pills as a gesture of self-euthanization. Kat thanks her.
*Admiral Adama stands by Kat's bedside immediately after Thrace's departure. Kat attempts to confess her past, but Adama tells her that her past will not change the heroic thing she did for the Fleet. He gives her the status of [[CAG]] once more, a position she held from colonization of [[New Caprica]] to Major Adama's return to ''Galactica'', despite the fact that Kat will not survive to fly again.
*Adama stays at Kat's bedside, talking with her and how he would have loved to have had a third child, commenting that he, like his ex-wife, [[Caroline Adama|Caroline]], would have liked a daughter.
*Some time later, the pilots assemble in their [[Pilot ready rooms|ready room]] as Admiral Adama changes the pilot organization chart, placing Kat as the CAG.
*Kara Thrace enters ''Galactica'''s memorial hallway and tacks a photo of Kat on the board. She cries quietly as Lee Adama looks on from a distance.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===
*Baltar notices that [[Number Three]] keeps going off somewhere and wonders what she is doing. [[Caprica-Six]] tells him that the other [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] are also concerned about Three's activities.
*Baltar confronts Three about her unexplained absences and surmises that she has been dying and resurrecting over and over again.
*Baltar and Three discuss the final five [[Cylon agent]]s, who are apparently the figures Three has been seeing between life and death. Baltar wonders aloud if he could be one of them, making him a hero to the Cylons instead of a traitor to the Colonials. Three tries to hold onto the memory of what they look like, but it always fades. Her drawings of them aren't very distinct.
*Baltar and Three visit the [[Hybrid]]'s chamber. Against Three's advice, Baltar reaches out to touch the Hybrid and she grabs his hand. More coherent than usual, the Hybrid says a number of cryptic clues and returns to her usual behavior.
*Baltar deduces from the clues that the Hybrid is referring to a planet where the Eye of Jupiter can be found, as well as something related to the final five. Baltar states that he is convinced that everything the Hybrid says has meaning.

== Questions ==
*Was the Fleet-wide failure of food-processing systems a result of sabotage? If so, were Cylons responsible, or someone else?
*Was assisted suicide an accepted practice in the Colonies, even if not by a practicing physician?
*Are there going to be radiation consequences for the pilots exposed to the conditions of the star cluster, especially those pilots who did in fact have a black indicator?
*How many pilots and crew were lost on the two civilian ships ''Adriatic'' and ''Carina''? Will their loss cause problems for the civilians that used to live on them?
*Were there any other ships lost besides ''Adriatic'' and ''Carina''?
*Other Cylons were seen to attend Three during her resurrection in "[[Hero]]". How has she been able to keep subsequent resurrections secret?
**Are the 'nurse' Cylons at the Resurrection ship aware of Three's attempts to discover who the final five are? If so, are they remaining silent in hope that Three would accomplish this task?
*During the brief martial law when Roslin was ousted as President, she and Apollo hid inside a meat refigeration locker. Was all the "real" food, such as meat, fresh fruits, and drinks all used up or left behind on New Caprica?
*If there was no food contamination, how long would the Fleet's food supply have lasted?
*Is there a centralized food distribution system in place for the Fleet?
*Why are the final five Cylons kept so secretive? Why do they exist in the place between death and resurrection?
*Who will supplant [[Kat]] as Squadron leader?

== Analysis ==
*Adama may have already abandoned his declaration from "[[Unfinished Business]]", as his treatment of Kat during her final hours suggests.
*The ranking shuffle resumes in this episode: Tigh returns to the CIC as XO, sending Helo back to the flight lines as a senior flight officer (his rank of Captain seems unaffected). At the end of the episode, Kat is posthumously given honorary CAG status, although Apollo is still ''de facto'' CAG.
*Baltar calls the Number Three "D'Anna", to which she responds. This may indicate acceptance of Baltar's custom of referring to and addressing some models by their "human" names—in this same scene, Baltar refers to "the relevant Simon" and in prior episodes refers to "one of the Dorals"' views on toilet paper. This custom is shared with the other humans, such as Ellen Tigh who mentions "one of the Brother Cavils", and Adama, who refers to both the [[Ragnar Anchorage]] copy and the stowaway copy in "[[Flesh and Bone]]" as "Leoben Conoy".
*Gaeta was one of the few in CIC not to applaud Tigh's return to duty. This may be due to lingering feelings of resentment over his treatment by Tigh and the [[The Circle|Circle]].
*Since this model has memories of viewing the footage acquired by the Galactica copy of D'anna Biers on Caprica (seen in flashback in "[[Hero]]"), we can rule out the possibility that both are the same individual.
*Number Three does not know what the final five Cylon agent models look like, at least not consciously.
*No anti-radiation injections were seen to be used by the pilots. Unless they were administered offscreen this could either mean that the Fleet's supplies are used up, or that even the medication doesn't help against such intense levels of stellar radiation. Oddly, pilots were not issue with anti-radiation suits (worn by the deck crew) or put on a rotation to limit their individual exposure.
*While it has not been conclusively established that the five figures are in fact the "Final Five" Cylon agents, the first sketch of the alleged "Final Five" that Number Three shows Baltar depicts two male and three female figures. If this proves accurate then of the twelve Cylon models there are six males and six females.
*Baltar's grooming has declined steadily since the Fall of the Colonies. While no longer a messy drunk as he was on [[New Caprica]], he has grown a scraggly and untrimmed beard.
* One of D'Anna's sketches in particular appears to depict the profile of a mustached and bearded male with long hair—a possible reference to Baltar; later in the episode after Baltar communes with the hybrid, D'Anna says "Could there be a connection between their gods and ours?" where "their" refers to the polytheistic human pantheon and "ours," the Cylon single god, a possible slip on her part indicating that she believes Baltar to be a Cylon, or that D'Anna believes Baltar has accepted the Cylon religion, and so no longer counts him as following human beliefs.
**She may be using "ours" to refer to all cylons, not just herself.
*"Find the hand that lies in the shadow of the light, in the eye of the husband of the eye of the cow." is what the Hybrid tells Baltar. Baltar analyses "the eye of the cow" to be Hera (since she was referred to as "cow-eyed Hera"). The husband of Hera is Jupiter, which yields: "Find the hand that lies in the shadow of the light, in the Eye of Jupiter". The Eye of Jupiter is also written about in the ancient texts, which prompts Three to believe there may be a connection to the Colonial and Cylon gods. According to Baltar, the Eye of Jupiter is most likely some kind of artifact (like the [[Arrow of Apollo]]), located on a planet in the shadow of a bright star cluster. The "hand" is believed to be a reference to the number five, meaning the Eye of Jupiter will contain or point to information about the Final Five. Interestingly, the Fleet has gathered protein from a planet in a bright star cluster in this episode. This will probably mean that the Cylons will run into the Colonials when they find the right planet, much like in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", but reversed as the Cylons found the [[Lion's Head Nebula]] before the Fleet did.
*The possible connection between the Colonial pantheon and the Cylon god which Three comments on was previously indicated in "[[Exodus, Part I]]", by the statements of Oracle [[Dodona Selloi]], with whom Three conferred.

== Notes ==
*This is one of the few times an Air Group organization chart is visible. Kat, as the honorary [[CAG]], is in the top slot, while directly below her are the squadron leaders, which are [[Lee Adama|Apollo]], [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], [[Two Times]], and a fourth whose name is never visible to the camera. Other names visible on the chart include [[Narcho]], [[Switch]], [[Chopper]], [[Raygun]], [[Helo]], [[Fuzzy]], [[Athena]], [[Racetrack]], and [[Sever]]. Pilots and [[ECO]]s may be listed below their squadron leaders in descending order of seniority, as both [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Brendan Constanza|Hot Dog]], for example, are listed directly beneath Starbuck, and the two of them are among the senior flight officers for ''Galactica''.
*A [[Straits of Madagon|perilous journey]] by the [[The Fleet (TOS)|"rag-tag" Fleet]] in the [[Original Series]], where pilots are also critical to the Fleet's safety, appears in its series premiere, "[[Saga of a Star World]]."
*"The Passage" was written by ''Galactica'' newcomer [[Jane Espenson]]. The episode arose when the show brought in Dr. [[Kevin Grazier]], a scientist from the [[w:Jet Propulsion Laboratory|Jet Propulsion Laboratory]], who talked about how one would navigate through space; how one would figure out how to get from one point in the to universe to, for example, Earth. Grazier's talk prompted the story at the heart of Espenson's episode.
*On the memorial wall Kat's picture is placed below the one of [[Reilly]]'s girlfriend she herself put there in "[[Scar]]".
*This episode marks the destruction of two civilian ships, the ''[[Adriatic]]'' and ''[[Carina]]''. This will likely result in more crowded conditions on the other ships in [[the Fleet]].
*This is the second episode in which dialog has been censored in the [[w:Sci Fi Channel (United States)|Sci Fi Channel]] broadcast. Starbuck sarcastically proclaims she gave Dr. [[Cottle]] "[[w:fellatio|head]]" in response to Kat saying she gave him her protein bar.
*Though the actual dialog between Baltar and D'Anna employs the name "Jupiter", the closed-captioning subtitles uses "Zeus" instead. This discrepancy and the question as to why the Roman name Jupiter would be used instead of its Greek counterpart may indicate that the original script employed the name Zeus before. However there is precedence for using gods from the Roman pantheon; namely Mars and Mercury.
*[[Brendan Constanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza]] is now the only survivor of the three nuggets originally introduced in "[[Act of Contrition]]".
*[[Hoshi]] appears in the CIC, sharing Dualla's duties. Other ''Pegasus'' crew members to have made the transfer to ''Galactica'' include [[Marcia Case|Marcia "Showboat" Case]], seen on the flight roster at the end of the episode, and [[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]] seen in "[[Torn]]".
*When Starbuck puts Kat's picture on the memorial wall, a note just above it reads "God rest your souls" - not "''Gods'' rest your souls," a rare departure from the established [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|Colonial polytheism]].

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Adama and Tigh discuss the food shortage''
::'''Adama:''' I hear they're still eating paper. Is that true?
::'''Tigh:''' No. Paper shortage.

*''Starbuck gives a last minute pep talk to the pilots''
::'''Starbuck:''' Remember, we're all flying solo on this mission. So that means there'll be nobody there to bitch slap you if you start to get tired or start seeing little toasters on your wing.

*''Baltar and Three confront the Hybrid'':
::'''Hybrid''': [Suddenly grabs Baltar's hand] Intelligence! A mind that burns like a fire!
::'''Baltar''': Yes, I'm here.
::'''Hybrid''': Find the hand that lies in the shadow of the light, in the eye of the husband of the eye of the cow.
::'''Baltar''': [Removes his hand from the Hybrid's tank.]
::'''Three''': You all right? It just speaks nonsense, doesn't it?
::'''Baltar''': I don't think anything it says is nonsense.

== Official Statements ==
''In [[Ron Moore]]'s blog on [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/ July 27th, 2006]:''

:"We were pretty excited to have Jane too. I actually took Jane's first pitch way back in my early days at ''[[MemoryAlpha:Star Trek|Star Trek]]'' and I had the pleasure of buying what turned out to be her first sale. I hadn't seen her since, but I'd followed her career from afar and was very proud to see her do so well. Turns out that Jane was a huge fan of ''Galactica'' and really wanted to do a script for us, so we jumped on the chance. I think we're all hoping that we could get her on staff at some point in the future, but we'll have to wait and see how everything shakes out for Season Four -- and whether she's even available, she's very much in demand these days. Her episode this year is "The Passage" (originally Ep 9) and deals with a harrowing voyage of the rag-tag fleet and focuses on Kat."

''[[Jane Espenson]] discusses writing the episode''

: "My episode originally had a [[Laura Roslin|Laura]] story threaded through it that had to be cut in later drafts because there was just too much story in the episode as a whole, and I missed it, just because she was so much fun to write. And any character with a strong opinion on what's going on in the episode is always fun and easy to write.

: "The hardest stuff to write in this episode wasn't because of any hard-to-capture voices but because there was a big chunk of mission-planning exposition that had to be done as clearly and as quickly as possible. That is always the very hardest stuff to write, setting down the rules without sounding like a textbook. It was challenging, but so nice when I felt like I'd gotten it right."<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/12/06/jane-espenson-answers-your-battlestar-questions/|title=TV Squad: Jane Espenson answers your Battlestar questions|date=6 December 2006|accessdate=11 December 2006|last=McDuffee|first=Keith|format=|language=English}}</ref>

''Epsenson talks about the scientific aspects of the episode:''

: "When I was given this episode, all the technical stuff about globular star clusters was given to me. And the writers were really patient in explaining technical stuff about the FTL drive and jump co-ordinates and the fact that you can't talk on the wireless over a jump-boundary -- I originally had Galactica in contact with Sharon-Athena while she out in the cluster doing her original recon, but that obviously didn't make sense. I received lots of help from the show's tech adviser, who is wonderful, and who explained all sorts of interesting things to me about how radiation differs from radioactivity and how gravitational forces are more likely to damage large ships than small ones.... The research that I really did on my own was about figuring out how the fleet had been making food prior to this crisis. The explanation was cut for length, but in one draft it was stated that the fleet "grew" meat from cloned cells and that it was this system that got so badly contaminated. As for the algae, I think that was already in place when I was given the story... it's just an obvious alternative protein source."<ref name="espenson-2">{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/12/11/jane-espenson-on-post-the-passage-questions/|title=TV Squad: Jane Espenson on post-The Passage questions|date=11 November 2006|accessdate=11 November 2006|last=McDuffee|first=Keith|format=|language=English}}</ref>

''Espenson discusses the [[Hybrid]]'s dialogue:''

: "I wrote this for the Hybrid in that pre-grab moment: 'Seascape portrait of the woman-child cavern of the soul under pressure-heat ratio--' which is, I think, what we hear. But there is at least one BSG writer who can generate pages of beautiful, haunting and resonant Hybrid-speak at will. He writes lots of her stuff and more power to him!"<ref name="espenson-2"/>

''Espenson discusses scenes that were cut from the script due to time constraints:''

: "I think I got a more-than-fair edit! I was amazed! The draft that was shot was way too long -- we all knew it was too long. So lots of scenes had to be cut -- two Adama/Kat scenes that I can think of. A Lee/Dualla scene, a Lee/Starbuck scene, an Adama/Tigh scene, lots and lots of Sharon/Helo stuff... the fact that the episode holds together, that it makes sense and has emotional punch... wow. And that's not even counting lots of Cylon stuff, Laura stuff and [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] stuff that got cut before shooting! This show is so rich, the world is so full, and there are emotions along every axis between every pairing of characters, that it's incredibly easy to find things that you just HAVE to explore. This is part of what gives the series such a great voyeuristic quality... as a viewer you just KNOW that there are scenes that have played out between these people that you have never seen, and you get to infer what they must've been. I like that the edit of this episode hints at the things unseen. And I love that despite the time pressures, moments were allowed to play out... Kat watching her fellow pilots suffer, Kat in the mirror, the final hospital scene... I think it was a lovely edit."<ref name="espenson-2"/>

''Espenson discusses fan's expectation of humor from her stories and their pertinence to "The Passage":''

: "I know people expect humor from me. I hope they understand why, given a story about Kat's redemptive and unglamorous death, I kept the funny knob turned down -- couldn't resist the giddy Tigh-Adama scene, however, and my personal favorite line the piece, Baltar's "You've got goo in your hair." Anyway, I hope the fans liked what they saw; I hope it felt real; I hope I get to write more Battlestar episodes, and get to play some more with these wonderful characters and their tragic, human, uplifting lives."<ref name="espenson-2"/>

== Guest Stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
* [[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Captain [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Captain [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Doctor [[Cottle]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Constanza|Brendan "Hotdog" Constanza]]

== References ==
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Ellen Tigh

2006-11-24T02:44:12Z

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'''Ellen Tigh''' was the wife of Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] and a survivor of the [[Cylon Holocaust]]. According to [[William Adama]], her marriage to Tigh was the reason that he took to drinking. While her husband was away from home, she apparently "went through half the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|(Colonial) fleet]]" in her sexual promiscuity. During the occupation of [[New Caprica]], she [[Precipice|collaborated with the cylons]], and was executed by her husband.

==Background==

Colonel Tigh, estranged from his wife and realizing her tendencies, finds himself burning a cigar hole in a photo of Ellen Tigh, just as [[Action Stations|action station klaxons]] rang throughout the decommissioned [[Galactica|battlestar]] at the start of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].

With the Colonies destroyed, billions of people are dead, and Ellen Tigh is presumed to be one of the many ([[Miniseries]]).

==Character History at a Glance==

*Commander Adama secretly visits a ship in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]], telling none of his command staff of his goal. He returns to ''Galactica'' and a curious Colonel Tigh with an unexpected surprise: a living Ellen Tigh.
*Ellen Tigh claims to have been on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Picon|Picon]] at the time of the [[Cylon attack]], on her way back home for a reunion with her husband. When the airport was hit in the attack, she claims an anonymous hero found her unconscious body and got her on to one of the last transports out, where she had been unconscious aboard the ''[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]'' for some three weeks prior to Adama finding her.
*Following her reunion with her husband, Tigh claims she wants to make a fresh start, but no sooner as Saul (still hopelessly in love with her) agrees, Tigh influences him back to drinking heavily and begins flirting openly with other men.
*Her first target is an unwilling [[Lee Adama]] during dinner with Lee, his father and [[Laura Roslin]]. Later she flirts with [[Gaius Baltar]] with greater effect - annoying her husband in the process.
*Tigh's rescue claims are immediately considered suspect. No one on the ''Rising Star'' can remember treating her through her long weeks of unconsciousness.
*Tigh takes an unnatural interest in Adama's plans to lead the fleet to Earth, almost badgering him into trying to reveal how long the journey will take. Her actions seem to support Adama's precaution of having Baltar scan Tigh's blood sample to see if she is a Cylon (unbeknownst to Saul).
*Baltar's tests conclude Tigh is human, and this quiets Adama's suspicion. But Dr. Baltar self-sabotages his own Cylon detection efforts, fearing that exposing a Cylon agent would expose him in his duplicity in the Cylon attack, or to assassination.
*Commander Adama points out, "Cylon or not, (Ellen Tigh is) nothing but trouble."
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[[image:Bsg-ellen-1.jpg|thumb|right|'''Tigh''' at the bar aboard the ''[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]'' where she meets with [[Tom Zarek]] ([[Colonial Day]])]]
*On ''[[Colonial Day]]'', Tigh states her belief that terrorist-turned-politician [[Tom Zarek]] is "the future", and greets him warmly over her husband's objections.
*Later on in the next day, after [[Wallace Gray]]'s poor showing at the Quorum, Zarek and Tigh talk over a drink, vaguely discussing their own ambitions.
*An associate of Zarek, [[Valance]]. is later found dead. Colonel Tigh was among the few who knew where the man was held.
*The following evening, at [[Gaius Baltar]]'s victory celebration, Shortly thereafter, Tigh dances with her husband and tells him of a "surprise" she has arranged on the ''[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]''. She tells him not only to enjoy some time alone there with her, but to discuss "his future" with some people there. She then embraces her husband and locks eyes with Zarek, seated across the room.
*After Adama's attempted assassination, Tigh encourages her husband to take extreme measures to assert his authority, sometimes in contrast to the more reasoned approaches he was proposing.
*Tigh convinces his husband to let the [[Quorum of Twelve]] witness the delusional Roslin, who she saw earlier in a poor state. But, thanks to a smuggled [[Chamalla]] dose, Roslin shows her resolve and power, which invigorates the Quorum ([[Resistance]]).
*Col. Tigh begins to relent and considers reconciliation with the captains of other ships in the Fleet, but Tigh goads him into advocating "stern measures." Her pressures lead her husband to drink and take irrational steps, including a standoff on the ''[[Gideon]]'' that leaves four people dead.
*Soon after [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] escapes with President Roslin from the [[brig]], the colonels receives a scolding from Tigh in his quarters when the recently awakened Commander Adama arrives. Tigh is asked to leave, her hand gripping the door frame fiercely in frustration of her turn of fortune as she leaves ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).
*Tigh's insistence to her husband for action with the supply boycott returns to terrorize her when Lt. [[Joe Palladino|Joe "Hammerhead" Palladino]] later attempts to exact revenge on Col. Tigh for the Gideon incident, tying up Tigh and holding her husband at gunpoint. Colonel Tigh is able to defuse the situation ([[Final Cut]]).
*Tigh seems to spend much of her time in the Fleet barhopping on ships like ''[[Cloud 9]]'', where she is held hostage in a terrorist action. ''Galactica'' marines later storm the bar and rescue the group ([[Sacrifice]]).

==New Caprica==
[[Image:Saulellen.jpg|Saul handing Ellen her poisoned drink.|thumb]]
One year after [[New Caprica]] is colonized, Ellen Tigh settles on the planet. Her husband joins her later, after Admiral Adama's insistence. Interestingly, they seem to fully reconcile during this time. Shortly thereafter the Cylon fleet discovers the planet, the Colonial Fleet in orbit Jumps away, and the Cylon occupation of New Caprica begins ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).

Four months after the occupation, Tigh's husband is imprisoned in the [[New Caprica Detention Center]], resulting in the loss of his right eye. In order to secure his release, Tigh enters into a deal with a [[Cavil]] model. After her sexual encounter with Cavil, her husband is released ([[Occupation]]).

However, as she later finds out from this same Cavil, Tigh's husband is released in order to further the Cylons' plans to tighten their grip on the civilian population. Despite the release, Tigh reports back to Cavil to further fornicate with him, suggesting some sort of long term sexual agreement. In the aftermath of a session, Cavil demands that she must find out when the next high-level meeting of the resistance is to convene; failure to do so will result in Tigh being recaptured and reimprisoned.

Tigh steals a map of [[Breeders Canyon]], created by [[Samuel Anders]], which Saul Tigh gave to her to destroy in a nearby tent fire ([[Precipice]]).

The map is later found on a dead Cylon agent by Anders' team after he and Fleet liaison [[Sharon Agathon]] eliminate the Centurion attack. Tigh is soon found and forced into the undeground hideout, where Colonel Tigh is told of his wife's deception and confronts his wife ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

The resistance leaders execute Ellen for collaboration with the Cylons; her husband, Saul, carries out the execution by poisoning her drink prior to the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

==Unanswered Questions==

*Did Tigh arrange for Valance's death herself, or just provide his location to a third party?
*What favors did she receive in return? What did she intend Saul to discuss on the [[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]], and with whom?
**Does her choice of a "getaway spot" have anything to do with her mysterious appearance aboard that ship four weeks earlier?
*How surprised was she by Zarek's defeat? Is her association with him still advantageous to her?
*Is Ellen Tigh a Cylon agent? ''(This would stretch believability, according to [[Ronald D. Moore|Ron D. Moore]]. See the [[Cylon agent speculation#Ellen Tigh?| Cylon agent speculation]] article for more.)''
**If not, how does the attempt on Adama's life impact her plans?
**If so, what would be her motive for advancing her husband's position?
***Is there evidence for cooperation between Zarek's people and the Cylons, or manipulation of one by the other?
***Perhaps she is attempting to create internal strife by playing hardliners such as Saul and Zarek against one another.
***When Col. Tigh was elevated to the position of sole commander, as per Ellen's wishes, the Fleet degenerated into self-destructive chaos because of the poor command decisions he made. Many of these decisions were made as a result of Ellen's manipulations. Even when things turned horribly violent and even Col. Tigh wanted to stop the downward spiral, Ellen couldn’t seem to care less and just continued with her manipulations. Perhaps spreading chaos was her true intention all along.
*Ellen Tigh and Kara Thrace are shown exchanging a friendly hug on [[New Caprica]]. Given Thrace's disdain for Ellen's husband, how did Thrace become on friendly terms with both Saul and Ellen Tigh?

==Cinematic Trivia==
[[Image:Miniseries Ellen.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Jennifer Birchfield-Eick as Ellen Tigh in the [[Miniseries]].]]
In the DVD commentary for the [[Miniseries]], it is revealed that Tigh was originally portrayed in picture form only by executive producer [[David Eick]]'s wife, Jennifer. The picture was later replicated for the series with Kate Vernon taking the place of Mrs. Eick and the scene reshot, so Saul Tigh is seen burning a picture of Vernon in the "flashback" sequence at the beginning of "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down."

==The Macbeth Connection==
Mrs. Tigh can be profitably compared with one of Shakespeare's most memorable women. Like Lady Macbeth, Tigh is married to a man who is in the line of command, but who doesn't want the top job. She uses a combination of insult, flattery, and sexual temptation to get her husband in the game, arranges the murder of others, and even makes alcohol one of her most potent weapons (in the play, Lady Macbeth gets the castle guards drunk so that she and her husband can kill the king and princes). In the words of Lady M herself, to her husband, "Hie thee hither, that I may pour my spirits in thine ear, and chastise with the valour of my tongue all that impedes thee from the golden round."

In fact, of all Shakespeare's plays, ''Macbeth'' is a particularly appropriate one for a series about evil robots who seem human on the outside ("fair is foul and foul is fair"), who are experts at lying and manipulation ("And oftentimes, to win us to our harm, the instruments of darkness tell us truths, win us with honest trifles, to betray us'n deepest consequence"), and who chase our heroes through the gulf of space (at least one scholar has noted that all of the play's most memorable scenes "take place either at night or in some dark spot"). Like Macbeth himself, [[Saul Tigh]] is famous for a bout of vicious hand to hand fighting in the recent war ("For brave Macbeth ... disdaining Fortune, with his brandish'd steel which smok'd with bloody execution ... carv'd out that passage").

It is tempting to attempt to extrapolate future plot points based on the Tigh-Macbeth analogy, but we must remember that, so far, Saul Tigh seems to have resisted his wife's manipulations better than his Shakespearean forbear. Nonetheless, this does help to supply a motivation for Ellen Tigh's actions: she doesn't have to be a Cylon to be victim to envy, the "green ey'd monster."

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Hero

2006-11-21T00:51:36Z

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| title= Hero
| image= Season 3 - Promo - Hero -Adama Tigh and Novacek.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 8
| guests= [[Carl Lumbly]]
| writer= [[David Eick]]
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| director= [[Michael Rymer]]
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| US airdate= 2006-11-17
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| population= 41,421
| prev= [[A Measure of Salvation]]
| next= [[Unfinished Business]]
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== Overview ==
:''A [[Bulldog|figure]] from [[William Adama|Adama]]'s past returns to haunt him. His return raises questions about why the Cylons launched their initial attack against the [[Twelve Colonies]]. <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/hero/episode/748771/summary.html |title=TV.com Episode Summary}}</ref>''
== Summary ==

=== On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' ===

* ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' detects three [[Cylon Raider|Raiders]]. Much to the surpise of the [[CIC]] crew, two Raiders are pursuing a third. [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] are dispatched. After destroying the pursuing Raiders, they go after the third.
* In CIC, Adama orders Kat and Starbuck to escort the Raider to ''Galactica'', after hearing [[Bulldog]]'s communication squaks.
* Kat and Starbuck escort the Raider in. In the hangar bay, Adama and the party that meets the Raider, surprised at the fact that a human appears to have piloted the craft. A visibly weak Bulldog salutes Adama; Adama returns the salute.
* Over a meal (noodles eaten with chopsticks) Adama asks Bulldog how he escaped. He relates a story of plague on the [[Basestar]] and escaping after killing a Number 3 with a blow to the nose delivered through the cell bars.
* Bulldog is debriefed by the president with Adama present, where they tell a (decidedly shaky) story of a mining facility too close to the Armistice Line. When it is concluded she asks Adama if he is going to tell her what really happened. He replies that it is his mess and that he will deal it. After she leaves he kicks over a table in frustration.
* Bulldog goes to see Saul Tigh in his quarters shortly after Adama talks to him. Saul informs Bulldog that he was shot down by the ''Valkyrie'' to get rid of evidence.
*At the same time, Adama confesses the mission's actual specifics to Lee, and his belief that he provoked the Cylon attacks on the colonies. Aghast at first, Lee then tries to console his father, blaming the admirals in command and saying that he was "only one man." Adama responds, "It only takes one."
* Starbuck reviews the gun film from the fight with the Cylon Raiders and realizes that they were deliberately missing their target, letting Bulldog get away. She goes to Saul Tigh with this information, who deduces that Bulldog was sent there by the Cylons to kill the admiral.
* Tigh finds Bulldog in the process of killing Adama and stops him. Bulldog has flashbacks to being let out of his cell.
* Later, Adama presents his resignation to Roslin. Bemused, she refuses to accept it, and points out that the Admiralty may have been trying to provoke a war, and that he cannot shoulder the entire responsiblity for the holocaust on his shoulders. She then tells him that his penance will be to accept a Medal of Distinction for his long years of service, and to be a hero.
* After sending Bulldog off to a berthing on another ship with a uniform, Tigh and Adama sit down for a drink in the admiral's quarters.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===
*In a dream, [[Three]] is trying to avoid marines on ''[[Galactica]]''. The marines corner her against a hatch labelled End of Line. The marines raise their weapons and Three tells them to shoot.
*As the shots go off, Three wakes up in bed with [[Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]]. She has apparently been having a sexual relationship with Baltar and possibly Six as well.
*In the Cylon control room Caprica-Six questions Three about her bad dreams. Caprica asks if the dreams are about Baltar and Three tells her that it's nothing like that, but does not elaborate.
*Three gives a centurion orders to shoot her, and then delete any information regarding the incident. The centurion obeys and shoots her in the head. In the moments before she is downloaded, she experiences images from her dream mixed in with memories from New Caprica and other more cryptic scenes.
*Three awakes in a rebirthing chamber where a worried Caprica-Six tries to help her recover. Three tells her, "There's something beautiful, miraculous between life and death."

== Questions ==
*Were the Admiralty's fears valid, or was the Cylon force that destroyed the Colonies built up just since that mission?
*Did humans taken prisoner well before the Fall of the Twelve Colonies provide the original genetic pool for the humanoid Cylons?
*Did Bulldog know of or see other human prisoners during his three years of captivity?
*How was Bulldog directed to the precise location of the fleet?
*What class of battlestar does ''[[Valkyrie]]'' belong to?
*Why would a "Stealth Ship" in enemy territory break radio silence?
*Was ''[[Valkyrie]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s mission the only one the admiralty undertook or were there others?
*Was [[Laura Roslin]] right in speculating that the admiralty might have sent ''[[Valkyrie]]'' in order to provoke a war?
*Why did the Cylons have one craft jump in and fire on the stealth star, then jump out? Then send in two more ships to finish the attack? Could the first ship have really been a Colonial ship sent by the admiralty to expose the stealth star?
*Who were the white-robed figures [[Three]] saw in her vision before downloading?
*Were the Cylons on the baseship where Bulldog was held really sick?
*Does Bulldog have information regarding the other humanoid Cylon models that nothing is known of?
*How did Baltar's status change from torturee in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]" to an apparent sexual relationship with [[Caprica Six]] and [[Number Three]]?
* Could the dark-skinned Admiral seen in Adama's flashback be the Admiral Nagala mentioned in the miniseries?
* Was Adama's whole command staff transferred from the ''[[Valkyrie]] ''to ''[[Galactica]]'' after the failure of the recon mission?
*Why did Number three go through all the trouble to program the Centurion to erase its memory once it shot her? Was she afraid of being 'boxed' by the other cylons for reasons of insanity or because it would do some sort of damage on the centurion once its processed the kill?

== Analysis ==
*Adama and Roslin know each other well enough by now to tell when the other is lying, or is not fooled by a lie, even when others around can't.
*At the end of the episode, [[Saul Tigh]] appears to be attempting to try and deal with his guilt over his wife, but he does not seem to want his job as XO back, at least not any time soon.
*Adama's feelings of guilt over his actions during ''[[Valkyrie]]'s'' mission seem to shed new light on the motivation for his speech at ''[[Galactica]]'s'' decomissioning ceremony at the begining of the series. Also, they explain his near-monomania with safeguarding and/or rescuing those under his command or protection.
*The Cylons seem to have been able to detect and destroy The Stealth-Star that had only entered two kilometers into their space. This seems suspicious given the fact that they were unable to detect the [[Blackbird]], presumably a far less sophisticated design. Either the Cylons had more advanced detection equipment on the [[Armistice Line]], or they had advance knowledge of Bulldog's mission.
**It is only speculation that the Blackbird's stealth capabilities were less effective than those of the Stealth-Star. The reason that the Blackbird went undetected by the Cylons is that its hull, at Helo's suggestion, was made of carbon composite. There is no way of knowing whether or not this was true of the Stealth-Star.
***In addition, the Cylons near the [[Armistice Line]] would have known to look for stealth ships, as they probably suspected that the Colonial fleet would try to gain intel on Cylon military status. After the destruction of the colonies, it is unlikely that the Cylons believed that the Colonials were still in possession of any kind of stealth fighter and would not attempt to detect one.
***The fact that the Cylons expected penetration by stealth ships suggests that they may have done their share of Armistice Line violation.
**Bulldog was communicating to the Valkyrie before being attacked. The Cylons may have been able to detect this radiation and fire at the source of it.
*Bulldog's story is even less believable given the fact that it took Kara Thrace several hours to gut a [[Raider]] and learn how to fly it. Granted, the Raider Kara captured was damaged, but it would still have taken Bulldog some time to adapt the raider for his own use.
**As the episode implies that Bulldog was deliberately released by the Cylons in an effort to direct his anger towards Adama, it is possible that the Cylons allowed Bulldog to gain a working knowledge of the raider.
*Bulldog probably could have stolen a Heavy Raider, which unlike the light versions seems to have a crew compartment and perhaps piloting controls, but then the production crew couldn't have re-used the captured-Raider prop from "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]" on the flight deck set.
*That Kara Thrace goes to Tigh with her findings is an acknowledgment of their shared semi-pariah status and the connection that was shown in "[[Collaborators]]" for the first time
*The last two scenes of "Hero" appear to have been edited to ensure that the final scene was with Adama and Tigh. Right after the celebration scene, Adama is seen giving Bulldog a new uniform, but Adama is wearing his everyday uniform. In the final scene with Tigh, Adama is wearing his dress grays from the celebration. It appears at the very least, the two scenes were in reverse order, meaning the episode originally ended with Adama giving Bulldog his new uniform.
*The architecture of the place Number Three visits between life and death is similar if not identical to that of the operahouse on Kobol which Baltar and his internal Six entered in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]".
*Three's flashbacks after being shot indicate her to be the same individual who was killed on Caprica by [[Caprica-Six]] in "[[Downloaded]]" and who found Hera in "[[Exodus, Part II]]". It is of course possible that some of these recollections are the result of memory-sharing rather than direct experience.
**If she is the same Three that died on Caprica, that leaves the question how it can be that she didn't get the Opera House experience on her first death, even though she was stuck in limbo for thirty-six hours because of the massive casualties at the cafe in [[Downloaded]]. It is plausible that this Three wanted to die because she'd never experienced death before.
***It is also plausible that God is only just now trying to tell her something.
*There's at least one other doctor of some kind in the fleet, because Cottle instructs Bulldog to report to him.
**This doctor is probably a psychotherapist that specializes in some sort of mental trama issues. Considering that Bulldog was in captivity for such a long time, and his breakdown while attacking Adama, at the very least, Bulldog will need a counselor to help him work through all of the emotional and mental scars that he's endured.
*The Cylons appear to know the current location of the fleet.
*It appears that the Admiralty transferred those directly involved with the mission to ''Galactica''. This is supported by Geata made a statement during the [[Mini-series|miniseries]] about serving with Adama for three years (prior to the attack), as well as Tigh's comment saying that the mission, "wasn't exactly a boon to [Adama's] career."

===Adama's Dossier===
Laura Roslin reviews a dossier prepared for her by [[Billy Keikeya|Billy]] on her first day aboard ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''. It includes large photos of battlestar ''Galactica'', a photograph of the CIC crew of battlestar ''[[Valkyrie]]'', a (mostly illegible) certificate bearing [[Saul Tigh]]'s name, and a cursory biography of William Adama, reproduced in full below:

:'''Commander William Adama'''

:*Born H5/21290 and raised on the colony of [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]], in [[Qualai]], a small coastal community
:*Mother, [[Evelyn Adama]], an accountant.
:*Father, [[Joseph Adama]], a prominent attorney who specialized in criminal defese and civil liberties.

:'''Military Service'''

:D6/21311 First comission, Battlestar Galactica, fighter squadron<br />
:E4/21312 Commendation for shooting down Cylon fighter in first combat mission.<br />
:D5/21314 Mustered out of service post-armistice<br />
:R6/21317 Served as Deck Hand in merchant fleet and as common […] aboard inter-colony tramp freighters<br />
:D1/21331 Recomissioned to Fleet<br />
:D6/21337 Major: Battlestar [[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]<br />
:R8/21341 Executive Officer: Battlestar [[Columbia (RDM)|Columbia]]<br />
:C2/21345 Commander: Battlestar Valkyrie<br />
:C2/21348 Commander: Battlestar Galactica

This provides some interesting information. The fields in the format X#/##### appear to be dates, with the five-digit string following the solidus apparently corresponding to the year. This corroborates various points of information supplied thus far:

* Adama's father was named Joseph ([[Hand of God]]), and was a civil rights attorney ("[[Litmus]]", "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]").
* In a [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)#Valley of Darkness|scene cut]] from "[[Valley of Darkness]]", it is noted that Adama joined the fleet toward the end of the war, and was attached to ''Galactica'' as a fighter pilot.
* Adama served on ''[[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]'' during his thousandth landing, which indicates that he was still a flight officer at that time. Given his rank of Major, he was likely the [[CAG]] on ''Atlantia'' ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* The date of the [[Cimtar Peace Accord|Armistice]] is correct at 42 years before the present, as stated in the [[Miniseries]] and accounting for the passage of slightly over two years since that time.

The following can be deduced from this document:

* This episode marks the 45th anniversary of Adama's commissioning, which puts it in the year 21356, and makes Adama 66 years old.
* Adama spent three years in between being mustered out and finding a job on a tramp freighter. We may speculate that it was during this time that his relationship with first wife [[Caroline Adama|Caroline]] deteriorated.
* Adama spent a total of 14 years serving in the merchant fleet.
* Adama met Tigh roughly 30 years ago ([[Torn]]). That would be 21326, which correctly puts it in the middle of Adama's merchant fleet service.
* Adama was a major by the time he arranged for Tigh to be reinstated in the fleet ([[Scattered]]), which means that at least six years passed in between Adama's recomissioning and Tigh's.
* Ronald Moore [[Podcast:Scattered|revealed in his podcast for "Scattered"]] that the flashback scenes for [[Scattered|said episode]] took place 20 years before that episode, or in 21334. In fact, they appear to span at least an eleven-year period between 21326 (Adama and Tigh's first meeting) to 21337 (Adama's promotion to Major).
* The first [[Colonial Day (holiday)|Colonial Day]], marking the unification of the colonies, was probably in 21304. The one celebrated in "[[Colonial Day]]" was the 52nd, and it is now two years later.

If the five-digit string following the solidus is in fact the year, as seems inescapable based on the above, the letter-digit sequence before it must indicate the position in the year. There are 260 unique letter-digit sequences of that format, which may indicate a shorter year in the Colonial calendar (a year of twenty-six ten-day weeks?) However, what has been revealed about Colonial timekeeping is too incomplete to draw any conclusions.

It is astonishing to learn that the Colonials have (or believe they have) over 21,000 years of recorded history. By comparison, Pythia was said to have recorded her prophecies 3,600 years ago ([[The Hand of God]]) and the exodus from [[Kobol]] took place just 2,000 years ago. On [[Earth]], Human civilization is only about 6,000 years old — though it should be noted that the series does not indicate the time frame for the events that have taken place in relation to Earth time.

Adama's resignation letter at the end of the episode appears to be dated in an entirely different format. It's difficult to read clearly, but it appears to be dated "27/89/9923".

== Notes ==
*In Adama's flashback, the admirals are wearing their decorations on their day uniforms. This contrasts with most Colonial Fleet officers shown thus far, who only wear their decorations on their dress uniform sash.

*Both Baltar and Sharon Agathon appear in this episode, but neither one has any lines.

*In Number Three's dream, the door at which she is shot by the marines is labeled "End of Line". As well as being a metaphor for death, this is a statement repeated often by the Cylon [[Hybrid]].

*This episode shares some plot elements with the TNG Episode "The Defector", written by RDM. Notably, it begins with a dramatic chase delivering a dubious ally into friendly hands that is later shown to be staged. Additionally, both episodes feature plots revolving around a contested border.

*Admiral William Adama names Major Lee Adama to succeed him as commander of ''Galactica'' in his resignation letter.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

* '''[[Number Three]]''': (to [[Caprica Six]]) "There's something beautiful, miraculous between life and death."

* ''[[Bulldog]] calls on [[Saul Tigh]] at Saul's quarters:
:'''Tigh''': So ... drink?
:'''Bulldog''': You have no idea!
:'''Tigh''' (scowling, unseen): Yes, I do.

== Official Statements ==
*A video blog gives an insight to this episode during filming. <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?cat=videoBlog&vid=34824|title=Introducing Bulldog|date=2006-10-11|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=VID|language=}}</ref>

== Guest Stars ==
* [[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
* [[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Captain [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]
* [[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
*[[Carl Lumbly]] as Lt. [[Daniel Novacek]]
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Doctor [[Cottle]]
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
*[[imdb:nm0447921|Barry Kennedy]] as Admiral [[Corman]]
* [[imdb:nm0461101|Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]]

== References ==
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Continuity errors (TRS)

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{{RDM continuity errors}}

This is a listing of '''continuity errors''' in the [[Re-imagined Series]].

== Acknowledged Mistakes ==

*At the beginning of "'''''[[Downloaded]]'''''" two captions are shown: one states that the Cylon Attack in the Miniseries occurred nine months before the current episode (which is consistent with the other episodes in Season 2.5), while the second reads "10 weeks ago", and then shows [[Cally]] shooting [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|"Boomer" Valerii]] in the past episode, "'''''[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]'''''". However, it is impossible for this to have happened "10 weeks before 9 months after the attack": 9 months = 270 days. There is another plaque in the episode "'''''[[Epiphanies]]'''''" which clearly states on screen that that episode took place on Day 189. There are 70 days in 10 weeks. 70 days before Day 270 would be around Day 200; well after "Epiphanies", which was the ninth episode ''following'' "Resistance". In response to this serious error being brought to the forefront, the title card of the DVD and international television releases has been changed to "10 weeks later", meaning 10 weeks after [[Number Six|Number Six's]] rebirth.
*In "''''''[[Scar]]'''''" Starbuck and Kat fly [[Viper Mark VII]]s but the launch in the originally aired episode showed a [[Viper Mark II]]. This has been fixed in the DVD release which now includes a new, but somewhat shorter, launch sequence with the Mk VIIs.<br/> A few previous episodes like "'''''[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]'''''" only use the Mk II sequence, but both types of Vipers are deployed by ''Galactica''.
*'''''[[Exodus, Part I]]''''': At the end of "[[Precipice]]" we see Cally clearly in the woods when the gunfire is going off. At the time we watch Tyrol and his group take aim at the [[Cylon Centurion]], Cally had not reached the wooded area by the time gunfire sounded. Further, when the gunfire begins in "[[Precipice]]", Tyrol is at the firing position, far from Cally, while in "[[Exodus, Part I]]" he is holding her to the ground when it begins.

== Retcons ==
*'''[[Season two timeline discontinuity]]''': All episodes before Season 2.5 (starting with "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]") seem to indicate that Season 2.5 begins 3-4 months after the Cylon attack. However, "Resurrection Ship, Part I" and all subsequent Season 2.5 episodes indicate that "Resurrection Ship, Part I" began 6 months after the Cylon attack. See the main article for more detailed analysis. There are 3 main points of discontinuity:
**[[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Caprica-Valerii]] is not visibly pregnant in "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]", but by "[[Epiphanies]]", roughly 2-3 weeks later, she appears to be in her second trimester.
**The presidential elections in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]" are said to take place 9 months after the attack, when throughout Season 1 it was consistently said to be 7 months after the Cylon attack.
**If all of the dates mentioned in each episode are counted up, "Pegasus" only occurs roughly three months post-attack, not six.
* '''[[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet numbers]]''': In the [[Miniseries]], a total of 40 [[FTL]] ships (led by Roslin) rendezvous with ''Galactica'' at [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. This makes the count 41 ships, including ''Galactica''. However, this number was enlarged for the series. In "[[33]]," Dualla states: "Jump 237 underway... 53 ships have jumped, 10 still reporting trouble with their FTL drives, including Colonial One." The count offered in "[[The Farm]]" was similar - 24 ships had left to join Roslin's fleet, which was "almost a third" of the fleet, putting the number at about 75.
*'''The ''[[Astral Queen]]''''': In the [[Miniseries]], [[Billy Keikeya]] stated to [[Laura Roslin]] that the captain had 500 prisoners in his cargo hold, and that the ''Queen'' was a cargo vessel transporting prisoners to a prison. In "[[Bastille Day]]", [[Billy Keikeya]]'s lines were re-dubbed: '''1,500''' prisoners were aboard the ''Queen'', that the ''Queen'' was a '''prison transport'''. [[Lee Adama]] would go on to later state that the ''Queen'' was en route to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] during the [[Cylon attack]] for parole hearings.
*'''[[Cylon Detector]]''': In the episode "[[Flesh and Bone]]", it takes only minutes to identify [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|"Boomer" Valerii]] as a Cylon. However, in "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", he states that complete testing on one sample of blood takes 11 hours.

== Danglers ==
*'''[[Caprica-Six|Caprica-Six]] Meeting''': In the [[Miniseries]], at the end of the scene where [[Number Six]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] walk through the park, Six says she has to meet someone. After Baltar walks away, she looks off-camera and says she had "been wondering when you'd get here." Cue a cut to ''Galatica''. Given that was the day of/before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the attack]], it seems unreasonable that the meeting was not related to the Cylon plans. Whomever she met could be another Cylon model(s). This has not been revisited.
*'''[[Tom Zarek|Zarek]]-[[Ellen Tigh|Tigh]] Plotline''': In the episode "[[Colonial Day]]", it is heavily implied that [[Ellen Tigh]] revealed the location of [[Valance]] to agents of [[Tom Zarek]], and that she intends for her husband, Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], to meet with Zarek's people in the near future. As of the start of the third season, this plotline has not been revisited and probably will never be in light of Tigh's death in "[[Exodus, Part II]]".
*'''Zarek-[[Black Market]] Plotline''': Similarly, the end of "[[Black Market]]" implies that Zarek has assumed some measure of influence in that organization. This also has yet to be revisited.

== Recasting ==
*'''[[Zak Adama]]''': In the [[Miniseries]], a different actor was pictured as Zak Adama. In "[[Act of Contrition]]", a new actor portrayed Zak, and the picture was changed to reflect the casting choice.
*'''Ellen Tigh''': Same with Zak Adama. The picture of Saul Tigh's wife, which Tigh had burned a hole through, was originally a picture of [[David Eick]]'s wife. When [[Kate Vernon]] was cast as Ellen in "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", the image was changed.
*'''[[Richard Adar]]''': In the miniseries, [[:md:Image:Bsg-baltar-adar.jpg|portrayed]] by [[David Eick]] in a photograph in Baltar's domicile on Caprica. The role was recast as Colm Feore for the episode, "[[Epiphanies]]."

== VFX Gaffes ==
[[Image:1104reverse Scattered.JPG|thumb|left|Mirrored shot of Viper 1104 ([[Scattered]]).]]
*'''''[[Miniseries]]''''': [[Viper 1104]] must be the most prolific Viper in existence. No less than three copies are present at the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage]]. Of these, one is crash landed by [[Kara Thrace|Lieutenant Thrace]], one destroyed by Cylon fire, and one successfully landed on [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]].
*'''''[[Miniseries]]''''' and '''''[[33]]''''': As ''[[Galactica]]'' prepares to jump to [[Ragnar Anchorage]], the flight pods retract. As the ship jumps, the pods are not retracted. When ''Galactica'' has jumped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] the pods are retracted again. This same footage was shown during the opening titles of ''33''.
*'''''[[33]]''''': As the Cylon Centurion approaches Helo from behind, you can see the rain hitting it, but it does not drip off the Warrior's body. In contrast, water is dripping from Helo's face in a fairly consistent and noticeable manner.
*'''''[[You Can't Go Home Again]]''''': Before searching for [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], [[Lee Adama]] climbs into a Viper Mk VII, although he is shown piloting a Mk II in all other VFX shots.
*'''''[[Season 1 (2004-05)|Amid Season 1]]''''': Half-way through season 1, the ''[[Colonial One]]'' CG model was updated and the seal of the President of the Colonies was added to the hull. However, the reuse of stock footage from the Miniseries and earlier in the first season cause the seal to continually disappear and reappear in the same episode depending on what shot is used.
*'''''[[Scattered]]''''': A shot of '''Viper 1104''' is mirrored accidentally.
*'''''[[Flight of the Phoenix]]''''':
**[[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] and Pilot numbers. 42 Vipers are deployed at a time when no more than 34 could have been serviceable, and with no more than 25 pilots available.
**[[Blackbird]]. As the [[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]] begins, the [[Blackbird]] (still incomplete, unflown, and missing its composite skin by this point) can be seen swooping across the screen in a manner inconsistent with its flight characteristics; the ship was built for speed, not maneuverability. The ship also fires what appears to be autocannons, which is wholly incorrect, as the Blackbird is unarmed except in its [[Resurrection Ship, Part II|final mission]].
*'''''[[The Captain's Hand]]''''': As [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] leads [[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus']] [[Viper Mark VII|Viper Mk VIIs]] into combat, a cockpit shot of her mistakenly shows [[Viper Mark II|Viper Mk IIs]] around her ship.

==Prop and Equipment Errors==
[[Image:2276gaff Mini.JPG|thumb|Maj Spencer in Viper 2276 ([[Miniseries]]).]]
*[[Miniseries]]:
**An [[wikipedia:F-16 Fighting Falcon|F-16 Fighting Falcon]] is visible in a picture in Adama's quarters when he and Colonel Tigh discuss Starbuck striking Tigh. However, this could be a tribute, the F-16 is sometimes called "Viper" by its pilots.
**The Viper Mk. VII flown by Major Spencer during the first sortie ([[Miniseries]]) is still marked as "Viper 2276NC" which is the Viper flown by Captain Lee Adama to ''Galactica''.
**As [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|"Boomer" Valerii]] takes off from [[Caprica]] with the civilians in the [[Raptor]], just after [[Helo]] shoots the civilian who jumps on to the wing, the camera points to Boomer, where viewers can see in the window reflection the crane that is hoisting the [[Raptor]] mockup into the air.
**When Starbuck's Viper is hit during the second sortie ("I'm all right"), her helmet is unsealed and open.
**Similarly, Lee Adama's collar is opened when he scolds her for being "beyond insane" as Thrace pushing Adama's Viper into ''Galactica's'' [[flight pod]] at the end of the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage|last battle at Ragnar]].
*''[[33]]'':
**When [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]] admits that she lost the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'', her headset changes sides during the conversation.
**As Helo fires upon the Cylon Centurion that survives the detonation of an anti-personnel mine (similar to a [[Wikipedia:Claymore mine|Claymore mine]]), the first time Helo fires the pistol, it is heard to fire, but there is no accompanying visual spark from the barrel. In contrast, the second shot is accompanied by both a spark and the appropriate sound.
**After the disappearance of the ''Olympic Carrier'' in Jump 238, with the timer running towards the 33 minute mark, the viewer can see that the clock is at 10 seconds. When focusing on Adama and Tigh, the viewer hears ten seconds counting off, but when the camera quick-pans to the overhead console, it reads that 3 seconds have passed.
**Before the clock reaches zero in the pre-title sequence, a wide shot of [[CIC]] is shown with Adama and Tigh standing at the central console. The timer on the screen above their heads is flashing 00:00:00.
*''[[Six Degrees of Separation]]'': The special-effects group for the Re-imagined Series appear dedicated to creating computer screens, equipment and interfaces that are familiar to viewers, but aren't full counterparts to real-world Earth materials. However, the logo for NEC computer manufacturers can be seen on the monitors while [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] is working on the photograph. Another similiar occurrance happens in "Sacrifice."
*''[[Colonial Day]]'': During the bar fight scene, [[Valance]]'s gun is shown with a silencer attached as it falls out of his briefcase, but the silencer is not present for the rest of the scene.
*''[[Valley of Darkness]]'': [[Kat]] finds a box of explosive rounds with only 6 shells. The shells in the container start out scattered within the box, but as the camera cuts back and forth in the scene the shells switch from organized to scattered many times.
*''[[Scar]]'': The little model plane on top of the "Top Gun" mug sported by Starbuck and Kat is actually an [[wikipedia:F/A-18 Hornet|F/A-18 Hornet]].
*''[[Sacrifice]]'':
**When Starbuck is getting the handguns out of her case, she still has the environmental engineer's hat on. When she quickly turns around with the guns and starts firing, her hat has disappeared without explanation.
**A computer mouse (a design created by [[Wikipedia:Microsoft|Microsoft]]) is seen connected to [[Sesha Abinell]]'s laptop computer.
* In several episodes characters wear the wrong rank insignia:
** ''[[The Hand of God]]'': [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] wears "Lieutenant j.g." (short chevron) insignia most of the time.
** ''[[Fragged]]'': [[Cally]] is wearing Petty Officer, 2nd Class instead of Crewman Specialist insignia.
** ''[[Home, Part I]]'' and ''[[Home, Part II]]'': [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] wears Major instead of Captains insignia.
** ''[[Scar]]'':
*** In the first scene in the recreation room [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] wears Lieutenant insignia despite having been promoted to Captain.
*** Some of the [[nuggets]] have Lieutenant insignia despite being addressed as Ensigns. The prop department hasn't produced any Ensign insignia yet.
** ''[[The Captain's Hand]]'': [[Lee Adama|Apollo's]] insignia switch between Captain and Major a few times. Major is his correct rank at that time.
*''[[Exodus, Part II]]'': The [[DRADIS]] displays aboard ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' are free of interference from the [[New Caprica]] nebula, even though it continued to be an obvious problem for both ships at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]].

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==Dialogue Errors==
*'''[[Miniseries]]''':
**Tigh inexplicably exclaims "Jesus!" when shown the photo of Adama, Zak and Lee. Ron Moore has stated that this was just an ad-lib by the actor, and was never in the script, and should have been removed during editing.
** At the start of the episode, dialogue is retained from a draft script which placed the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]] actually on [[Kobol]], rather than spread among twelve worlds. The giveaway lines are spoken by [[Aaron Doral]] (played by [[Matthew Bennett]]):
**:"Now, as I was saying, form follows function, and nowhere is this axiom of design more readily apparent than on the ''world'' famous Battlestar Galactica... now originally there were twelve battlestars, each representing one of ''Kobol's twelve colonies''..."
*: Given the show is set among 12 different worlds, and Kobol is now regarded as the birthplace of humanity, abandoned at some point in the distant past, Doral should have used the words "worlds' famous", and simply referred to the original battlestars representing each of the Twelve Colonies. Still, within context it is impossible for the casual viewer to tell this is from an earlier script draft: each of the 12 human-colonized planets is a "colony" of the mother-planet Kobol.
**The singular "world" was also used by Starbuck when confessing her role in Zak's accidental death to Lee Adama. Bear in mind that "world" is an inexact term, and need not be synonymous with "planet", it can mean "the known universe". "World" literally means "age or life of man".
**When being informed by [[Six]] of her true nature and mission, [[Gaius Baltar]] exclaims "Oh, my God!" as opposed to "Gods".
**[[Jackson Spencer]] also makes this mistake after the Cylon Raiders launch missiles at his disabled squadron.
**The pronunciation of Lt. [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]]'s name frequently shifts between ''GAY-ta'' and ''GUY-ta'' during the Miniseries. Col. Tigh regularly calls him GUY-ta while Adama vacillates between GAY-ta and GUY-ta. From "[[33]]"-onward he is referred to by everyone as GAY-ta.
**When Leoben and Adama discuss the nature of the Cylons while navigating their way through Ragnar Anchorage Adama argues that "God didn't create the Cylons, Man did."
* ''[[33]]'': Helo states his rank as "Lieutenant, junior grade" despite consistently wearing "Lieutenant, senior grade" rank insignia
*''[[Scattered]]'': During the scene on Caprica , Helo exclaims "for God Sakes" instead of the more Colonial "for Gods' Sakes" or Cylon "for God's Sake".
*''[[Downloaded]]'': In the [[Miniseries]], [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] claims that her parents died while she was very young. In "[[Downloaded]]" she explains that she received a gift from her mother when she left for the Fleet academy.
**Boomer may have been referring to her adoptive mother.
*''[[A Measure of Salvation]]''In the BSG universe, the term "Wilco" is replaced with the term "Roger", however, in this episode, Apollo uses the term "Roger" twice.

==Crew Visible==
[[Image:Gaffcrew klgpII.JPG|thumb|left|Crew member visible ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])]]
*A member of the production crew, possibly a boom operator, is visible on screen in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]". He can be seen behind the damaged wall behind the display of the [[Arrow of Apollo]].

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Continuity errors (TRS)

2006-11-12T15:15:46Z

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{{RDM continuity errors}}

This is a listing of '''continuity errors''' in the [[Re-imagined Series]].

== Acknowledged Mistakes ==

*At the beginning of "'''''[[Downloaded]]'''''" two captions are shown: one states that the Cylon Attack in the Miniseries occurred nine months before the current episode (which is consistent with the other episodes in Season 2.5), while the second reads "10 weeks ago", and then shows [[Cally]] shooting [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|"Boomer" Valerii]] in the past episode, "'''''[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]'''''". However, it is impossible for this to have happened "10 weeks before 9 months after the attack": 9 months = 270 days. There is another plaque in the episode "'''''[[Epiphanies]]'''''" which clearly states on screen that that episode took place on Day 189. There are 70 days in 10 weeks. 70 days before Day 270 would be around Day 200; well after "Epiphanies", which was the ninth episode ''following'' "Resistance". In response to this serious error being brought to the forefront, the title card of the DVD and international television releases has been changed to "10 weeks later", meaning 10 weeks after [[Number Six|Number Six's]] rebirth.
*In "''''''[[Scar]]'''''" Starbuck and Kat fly [[Viper Mark VII]]s but the launch in the originally aired episode showed a [[Viper Mark II]]. This has been fixed in the DVD release which now includes a new, but somewhat shorter, launch sequence with the Mk VIIs.<br/> A few previous episodes like "'''''[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]'''''" only use the Mk II sequence, but both types of Vipers are deployed by ''Galactica''.
*'''''[[Exodus, Part I]]''''': At the end of "[[Precipice]]" we see Cally clearly in the woods when the gunfire is going off. At the time we watch Tyrol and his group take aim at the [[Cylon Centurion]], Cally had not reached the wooded area by the time gunfire sounded. Further, when the gunfire begins in "[[Precipice]]", Tyrol is at the firing position, far from Cally, while in "[[Exodus, Part I]]" he is holding her to the ground when it begins.

== Retcons ==
*'''[[Season two timeline discontinuity]]''': All episodes before Season 2.5 (starting with "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]") seem to indicate that Season 2.5 begins 3-4 months after the Cylon attack. However, "Resurrection Ship, Part I" and all subsequent Season 2.5 episodes indicate that "Resurrection Ship, Part I" began 6 months after the Cylon attack. See the main article for more detailed analysis. There are 3 main points of discontinuity:
**[[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Caprica-Valerii]] is not visibly pregnant in "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]", but by "[[Epiphanies]]", roughly 2-3 weeks later, she appears to be in her second trimester.
**The presidential elections in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]" are said to take place 9 months after the attack, when throughout Season 1 it was consistently said to be 7 months after the Cylon attack.
**If all of the dates mentioned in each episode are counted up, "Pegasus" only occurs roughly three months post-attack, not six.
* '''[[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet numbers]]''': In the [[Miniseries]], a total of 40 [[FTL]] ships (led by Roslin) rendezvous with ''Galactica'' at [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. This makes the count 41 ships, including ''Galactica''. However, this number was enlarged for the series. In "[[33]]," Dualla states: "Jump 237 underway... 53 ships have jumped, 10 still reporting trouble with their FTL drives, including Colonial One." The count offered in "[[The Farm]]" was similar - 24 ships had left to join Roslin's fleet, which was "almost a third" of the fleet, putting the number at about 75.
*'''The ''[[Astral Queen]]''''': In the [[Miniseries]], [[Billy Keikeya]] stated to [[Laura Roslin]] that the captain had 500 prisoners in his cargo hold, and that the ''Queen'' was a cargo vessel transporting prisoners to a prison. In "[[Bastille Day]]", [[Billy Keikeya]]'s lines were re-dubbed: '''1,500''' prisoners were aboard the ''Queen'', that the ''Queen'' was a '''prison transport'''. [[Lee Adama]] would go on to later state that the ''Queen'' was en route to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] during the [[Cylon attack]] for parole hearings.
*'''[[Cylon Detector]]''': In the episode "[[Flesh and Bone]]", it takes only minutes to identify [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|"Boomer" Valerii]] as a Cylon. However, in "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", he states that complete testing on one sample of blood takes 11 hours.

== Danglers ==
*'''[[Caprica-Six|Caprica-Six]] Meeting''': In the [[Miniseries]], at the end of the scene where [[Number Six]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] walk through the park, Six says she has to meet someone. After Baltar walks away, she looks off-camera and says she had "been wondering when you'd get here." Cue a cut to ''Galatica''. Given that was the day of/before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the attack]], it seems unreasonable that the meeting was not related to the Cylon plans. Whomever she met could be another Cylon model(s). This has not been revisited.
*'''[[Tom Zarek|Zarek]]-[[Ellen Tigh|Tigh]] Plotline''': In the episode "[[Colonial Day]]", it is heavily implied that [[Ellen Tigh]] revealed the location of [[Valance]] to agents of [[Tom Zarek]], and that she intends for her husband, Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], to meet with Zarek's people in the near future. As of the start of the third season, this plotline has not been revisited and probably will never be in light of Tigh's death in "[[Exodus, Part II]]".
*'''Zarek-[[Black Market]] Plotline''': Similarly, the end of "[[Black Market]]" implies that Zarek has assumed some measure of influence in that organization. This also has yet to be revisited.

== Recasting ==
*'''[[Zak Adama]]''': In the [[Miniseries]], a different actor was pictured as Zak Adama. In "[[Act of Contrition]]", a new actor portrayed Zak, and the picture was changed to reflect the casting choice.
*'''Ellen Tigh''': Same with Zak Adama. The picture of Saul Tigh's wife, which Tigh had burned a hole through, was originally a picture of [[David Eick]]'s wife. When [[Kate Vernon]] was cast as Ellen in "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", the image was changed.
*'''[[Richard Adar]]''': In the miniseries, [[:md:Image:Bsg-baltar-adar.jpg|portrayed]] by [[David Eick]] in a photograph in Baltar's domicile on Caprica. The role was recast as Colm Feore for the episode, "[[Epiphanies]]."

== VFX Gaffes ==
[[Image:1104reverse Scattered.JPG|thumb|left|Mirrored shot of Viper 1104 ([[Scattered]]).]]
*'''''[[Miniseries]]''''': [[Viper 1104]] must be the most prolific Viper in existence. No less than three copies are present at the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage]]. Of these, one is crash landed by [[Kara Thrace|Lieutenant Thrace]], one destroyed by Cylon fire, and one successfully landed on [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]].
*'''''[[Miniseries]]''''' and '''''[[33]]''''': As ''[[Galactica]]'' prepares to jump to [[Ragnar Anchorage]], the flight pods retract. As the ship jumps, the pods are not retracted. When ''Galactica'' has jumped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] the pods are retracted again. This same footage was shown during the opening titles of ''33''.
*'''''[[33]]''''': As the Cylon Centurion approaches Helo from behind, you can see the rain hitting it, but it does not drip off the Warrior's body. In contrast, water is dripping from Helo's face in a fairly consistent and noticeable manner.
*'''''[[You Can't Go Home Again]]''''': Before searching for [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], [[Lee Adama]] climbs into a Viper Mk VII, although he is shown piloting a Mk II in all other VFX shots.
*'''''[[Season 1 (2004-05)|Amid Season 1]]''''': Half-way through season 1, the ''[[Colonial One]]'' CG model was updated and the seal of the President of the Colonies was added to the hull. However, the reuse of stock footage from the Miniseries and earlier in the first season cause the seal to continually disappear and reappear in the same episode depending on what shot is used.
*'''''[[Scattered]]''''': A shot of '''Viper 1104''' is mirrored accidentally.
*'''''[[Flight of the Phoenix]]''''':
**[[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] and Pilot numbers. 42 Vipers are deployed at a time when no more than 34 could have been serviceable, and with no more than 25 pilots available.
**[[Blackbird]]. As the [[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]] begins, the [[Blackbird]] (still incomplete, unflown, and missing its composite skin by this point) can be seen swooping across the screen in a manner inconsistent with its flight characteristics; the ship was built for speed, not maneuverability. The ship also fires what appears to be autocannons, which is wholly incorrect, as the Blackbird is unarmed except in its [[Resurrection Ship, Part II|final mission]].
*'''''[[The Captain's Hand]]''''': As [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] leads [[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus']] [[Viper Mark VII|Viper Mk VIIs]] into combat, a cockpit shot of her mistakenly shows [[Viper Mark II|Viper Mk IIs]] around her ship.

==Prop and Equipment Errors==
[[Image:2276gaff Mini.JPG|thumb|Maj Spencer in Viper 2276 ([[Miniseries]]).]]
*[[Miniseries]]:
**An [[wikipedia:F-16 Fighting Falcon|F-16 Fighting Falcon]] is visible in a picture in Adama's quarters when he and Colonel Tigh discuss Starbuck striking Tigh. However, this could be a tribute, the F-16 is sometimes called "Viper" by its pilots.
**The Viper Mk. VII flown by Major Spencer during the first sortie ([[Miniseries]]) is still marked as "Viper 2276NC" which is the Viper flown by Captain Lee Adama to ''Galactica''.
**As [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|"Boomer" Valerii]] takes off from [[Caprica]] with the civilians in the [[Raptor]], just after [[Helo]] shoots the civilian who jumps on to the wing, the camera points to Boomer, where viewers can see in the window reflection the crane that is hoisting the [[Raptor]] mockup into the air.
**When Starbuck's Viper is hit during the second sortie ("I'm all right"), her helmet is unsealed and open.
**Similarly, Lee Adama's collar is opened when he scolds her for being "beyond insane" as Thrace pushing Adama's Viper into ''Galactica's'' [[flight pod]] at the end of the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage|last battle at Ragnar]].
*''[[33]]'':
**When [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]] admits that she lost the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'', her headset changes sides during the conversation.
**As Helo fires upon the Cylon Centurion that survives the detonation of an anti-personnel mine (similar to a [[Wikipedia:Claymore mine|Claymore mine]]), the first time Helo fires the pistol, it is heard to fire, but there is no accompanying visual spark from the barrel. In contrast, the second shot is accompanied by both a spark and the appropriate sound.
**After the disappearance of the ''Olympic Carrier'' in Jump 238, with the timer running towards the 33 minute mark, the viewer can see that the clock is at 10 seconds. When focusing on Adama and Tigh, the viewer hears ten seconds counting off, but when the camera quick-pans to the overhead console, it reads that 3 seconds have passed.
**Before the clock reaches zero in the pre-title sequence, a wide shot of [[CIC]] is shown with Adama and Tigh standing at the central console. The timer on the screen above their heads is flashing 00:00:00.
*''[[Six Degrees of Separation]]'': The special-effects group for the Re-imagined Series appear dedicated to creating computer screens, equipment and interfaces that are familiar to viewers, but aren't full counterparts to real-world Earth materials. However, the logo for NEC computer manufacturers can be seen on the monitors while [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] is working on the photograph. Another similiar occurrance happens in "Sacrifice."
*''[[Colonial Day]]'': During the bar fight scene, [[Valance]]'s gun is shown with a silencer attached as it falls out of his briefcase, but the silencer is not present for the rest of the scene.
*''[[Valley of Darkness]]'': [[Kat]] finds a box of explosive rounds with only 6 shells. The shells in the container start out scattered within the box, but as the camera cuts back and forth in the scene the shells switch from organized to scattered many times.
*''[[Scar]]'': The little model plane on top of the "Top Gun" mug sported by Starbuck and Kat is actually an [[wikipedia:F/A-18 Hornet|F/A-18 Hornet]].
*''[[Sacrifice]]'':
**When Starbuck is getting the handguns out of her case, she still has the environmental engineer's hat on. When she quickly turns around with the guns and starts firing, her hat has disappeared without explanation.
**A computer mouse (a design created by [[Wikipedia:Microsoft|Microsoft]]) is seen connected to [[Sesha Abinell]]'s laptop computer.
* In several episodes characters wear the wrong rank insignia:
** ''[[The Hand of God]]'': [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] wears "Lieutenant j.g." (short chevron) insignia most of the time.
** ''[[Fragged]]'': [[Cally]] is wearing Petty Officer, 2nd Class instead of Crewman Specialist insignia.
** ''[[Home, Part I]]'' and ''[[Home, Part II]]'': [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] wears Major instead of Captains insignia.
** ''[[Scar]]'':
*** In the first scene in the recreation room [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] wears Lieutenant insignia despite having been promoted to Captain.
*** Some of the [[nuggets]] have Lieutenant insignia despite being addressed as Ensigns. The prop department hasn't produced any Ensign insignia yet.
** ''[[The Captain's Hand]]'': [[Lee Adama|Apollo's]] insignia switch between Captain and Major a few times. Major is his correct rank at that time.
*''[[Exodus, Part II]]'': The [[DRADIS]] displays aboard ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' are free of interference from the [[New Caprica]] nebula, even though it continued to be an obvious problem for both ships at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]].

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==Dialogue Errors==
*'''[[Miniseries]]''':
**Tigh inexplicably exclaims "Jesus!" when shown the photo of Adama, Zak and Lee. Ron Moore has stated that this was just an ad-lib by the actor, and was never in the script, and should have been removed during editing.
** At the start of the episode, dialogue is retained from a draft script which placed the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]] actually on [[Kobol]], rather than spread among twelve worlds. The giveaway lines are spoken by [[Aaron Doral]] (played by [[Matthew Bennett]]):
**:"Now, as I was saying, form follows function, and nowhere is this axiom of design more readily apparent than on the ''world'' famous Battlestar Galactica... now originally there were twelve battlestars, each representing one of ''Kobol's twelve colonies''..."
*: Given the show is set among 12 different worlds, and Kobol is now regarded as the birthplace of humanity, abandoned at some point in the distant past, Doral should have used the words "worlds' famous", and simply referred to the original battlestars representing each of the Twelve Colonies. Still, within context it is impossible for the casual viewer to tell this is from an earlier script draft: each of the 12 human-colonized planets is a "colony" of the mother-planet Kobol.
**The singular "world" was also used by Starbuck when confessing her role in Zak's accidental death to Lee Adama. Bear in mind that "world" is an inexact term, and need not be synonymous with "planet", it can mean "the known universe". "World" literally means "age or life of man".
**When being informed by [[Six]] of her true nature and mission, [[Gaius Baltar]] exclaims "Oh, my God!" as opposed to "Gods".
**[[Jackson Spencer]] also makes this mistake after the Cylon Raiders launch missiles at his disabled squadron.
**The pronunciation of Lt. [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]]'s name frequently shifts between ''GAY-ta'' and ''GUY-ta'' during the Miniseries. Col. Tigh regularly calls him GUY-ta while Adama vacillates between GAY-ta and GUY-ta. From "[[33]]"-onward he is referred to by everyone as GAY-ta.
**When Leoben and Adama discuss the nature of the Cylons while navigating their way through Ragnar Anchorage Adama argues that "God didn't create the Cylons, Man did."
* ''[[33]]'': Helo states his rank as "Lieutenant, junior grade" despite consistently wearing "Lieutenant, senior grade" rank insignia
*''[[Scattered]]'': During the scene on Caprica , Helo exclaims "for God Sakes" instead of the more Colonial "for Gods' Sakes" or Cylon "for God's Sake".
*''[[Downloaded]]'': In the [[Miniseries]], [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] claims that her parents died while she was very young. In "[[Downloaded]]" she explains that she received a gift from her mother when she left for the Fleet academy.
**Boomer may have been referring to her adoptive mother.
*In the BSG universe, the term "Wilco" is replaced with the term "Roger", however, in the episode "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", Apollo uses the term "Roger" twice.

==Crew Visible==
[[Image:Gaffcrew klgpII.JPG|thumb|left|Crew member visible ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]])]]
*A member of the production crew, possibly a boom operator, is visible on screen in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]". He can be seen behind the damaged wall behind the display of the [[Arrow of Apollo]].

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Aaron Kelly

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Captain '''Aaron Kelly''' is third-in-command aboard [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] ''[[Galactica]]''. As the [[LSO]] (Landing Signal Officer), he is responsible for flight operations and aided in the capture of the first instance of the [[Cylon agent]] known as [[Aaron Doral]] ([[Miniseries]]).

Shortly after a Cylon nuclear weapon struck ''Galactica'' in the initial wave of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], Kelly began giving orders to aid crewmembers trapped or fighting damage in the port [[flight pod]], where the detonation occurred, after Executive Officer [[Saul Tigh]] hesitates. Tigh soon countermands Kelly and orders the flight pod vented to stop the fires ([[Miniseries]]).

When Commander [[William Adama]] is shot by the Cylon infiltrator [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon Valerii]], Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta]] reminds him on his arrival to [[CIC]] that Kelly is now second-in-command ([[Scattered]]). As a strong believer in Commander Adama's philosophy on computer networks, he voices his objections over networking ''Galactica's'' computer systems after the battlestar loses the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] due to incorrect [[FTL|Jump]] coordinates, asserting that the [[Old Man]] would never even consider Gaeta's option to network the computers for a faster Jump calculation. Soon afterwards, when ''Galactica'' is boarded by [[Cylon Centurion]]s, Kelly assists Lt. Gaeta and Col. Tigh in coordinating an effort to stop their advance ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

Capt. Kelly apparently returns to his day to day duties as LSO, coordinating Viper landings from the port hangar bay, as Commander Adama returned to duty and the normal chain of command was restored. He is on duty when [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]], disoriented from [[stims]], crash lands her [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] onto the [[landing bay]] ([[Final Cut]]).

During the rescue attempt to New Caprica, and presumably in the year and four months leading to it, he performs [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]]'s role as tactical officer of the Battlestar Galactica ([[Exodus, Part I]])

==Notes==
*Kelly's Season 1 disappearance and sudden reappearance in Season 2 has become the subject of a running gag in fandom. However, the on-screen revelation of his duties as Landing Signal Officer tucked away in ''Galactica'''s flight pod did much to quell this.
*Kelly's first name is revealed in the closing episode credits of "[[Final Cut]]."

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Aaron Kelly

2006-10-14T01:36:22Z

Mrxerox:

{{Character Data
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Captain '''Aaron Kelly''' is third-in-command aboard [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] ''[[Galactica]]''. As the [[LSO]] (Landing Signal Officer), he is responsible for flight operations and aided in the capture of the first instance of the [[Cylon agent]] known as [[Aaron Doral]] ([[Miniseries]]).

Shortly after a Cylon nuclear weapon struck ''Galactica'' in the initial wave of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], Kelly began giving orders to aid crewmembers trapped or fighting damage in the port [[flight pod]], where the detonation occurred, after Executive Officer [[Saul Tigh]] hesitates. Tigh soon countermands Kelly and orders the flight pod vented to stop the fires ([[Miniseries]]).

When Commander [[William Adama]] is shot by the Cylon infiltrator [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon Valerii]], Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta]] reminds him on his arrival to [[CIC]] that Kelly is now second-in-command ([[Scattered]]). As a strong believer in Commander Adama's philosophy on computer networks, he voices his objections over networking ''Galactica's'' computer systems after the battlestar loses the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] due to incorrect [[FTL|Jump]] coordinates, asserting that the [[Old Man]] would never even consider Gaeta's option to network the computers for a faster Jump calculation. Soon afterwards, when ''Galactica'' is boarded by [[Cylon Centurion]]s, Kelly assists Lt. Gaeta and Col. Tigh in coordinating an effort to stop their advance ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

Capt. Kelly apparently returns to his day to day duties as LSO, coordinating Viper landings from the port hangar bay, as Commander Adama returned to duty and the normal chain of command was restored. He is on duty when [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]], disoriented from [[stims]], crash lands her [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] onto the [[landing bay]] ([[Final Cut]]).

During the rescue attempt to New Caprica, and presumably in the year and four months leading to it, he is in [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]]'s role as tactical officer of the Battlestar Galactica ([[Exodus, Part 1]])

==Notes==
*Kelly's Season 1 disappearance and sudden reappearance in Season 2 has become the subject of a running gag in fandom. However, the on-screen revelation of his duties as Landing Signal Officer tucked away in ''Galactica'''s flight pod did much to quell this.
*Kelly's first name is revealed in the closing episode credits of "[[Final Cut]]."

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Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance

2006-09-14T21:46:46Z

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:''This page covers the webisode series titled "The Resistance," which follows the exploits of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. For other meanings, see "[[Resistance]]".''

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| episode=0
| guests=
| writer=[[Bradley Thompson]] <br/> [[David Weddle]]
| story=
| director=[[Wayne Rose]]
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| US airdate= 2006-09-05 through 2006-10-05
| UK airdate= Not yet available in the UK
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| prev=[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]
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== Overview ==
'''''Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance''''' will be web-based series that claims to fill in the gaps between [[season 2 (2005-06)|season two]] and [[Season 3 (2006-07)|three]] of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|re-imagined series]]. The series is a limited-run series that will last 10 episodes. <ref name="ignnews">[http://tv.ign.com/articles/709/709633p1.html IGN: TV Online: Battlestar Galactica Webseries Announced, May 22, 2006]</ref>

The webisode series is written by veteran BSG writers [[Bradley Thompson]] and [[David Weddle]], and directed by [[Wayne Rose]]. The entire series is about 25 minutes long in total, and divided into 10 episodes.

== Summary ==
===Episode 1===
* Running time: ~3:19
* Starts on the 67<sup>th</sup> day after [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]

Tyrol and Tigh organize the budding resistance movement on Cylon-occupied New Caprica, but they find recruiting new soldiers is becoming dangerous and difficult. The Cylons have instituted a curfew. Violators go to jail, which is the first thing the Cylons built on [[New Caprica]]. New Capricans are shot on the spot if weapons are found in their tents. A stash of weapons belonging to [[Longo]] was confiscated by the Cylons, but the resistance was able to retrieve some of them which were hidden underneath his latrine. The Cylons are also setting up a [[New Caprica Police|human police force]] to take over for the [[Cylon Centurion]]s, who are doing most of the police work.

===Episode 2===
*Running time: ~1:54
Duck has refused to work with the resistance, on the grounds of his relationship and intended child with Nora. Tyrol is highly displeased at this, particularly his reasons, as they parallel Tyrol's own situation; Jammer suggests respecting Duck's decision.

A ritual for protection of the crops from blight is said in the temple. As the priestess leaves, Jean Barolay abruptly shifts the conversation to the movement of the weapons stash into the [[temple]]; Jammer strongly objects, but he is overruled by Tigh.

===Episode 3===
*Running time: ~2:42
In the evening, Nora prays to Aphrodite to bless she and Duck with a child. He tells her his decision about joining the resistance. She is pleased that he refused Tyrol.

During the night, Tigh, Tyrol, Jammer, and Barolay move the weapons into the temple disguising them.

The next morning, Nora wakes Duck saying he will be late to work. She tries to convince him to go to temple after work with her. He refuses, saying he talks to the gods in his own way.

===Episode 4===
*Running time: ~2:00
[[Cally]] and [[Nora]] visit the temple. Nora is holding Cally's baby while Cally is performing a ceremony. At that moment [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]] can be heard outside and [[Number Five|Number Five]] announces that they will enter the temple. Several men try to block them, but the Cylons force their way in and gunfire can be seen and heard. While trying to run away Cally falls to the ground protecting her baby, but Nora is shot and killed when she tries to retrieve her bag.

===Episode 5===
===Episode 6===
===Episode 7===
===Episode 8===
===Episode 9===
===Episode 10===

== Questions ==

== Analysis ==

== Notes ==
*The original title of the webisode series was "Crossroads"
*Currently, attempting to view the webisodes from outside of the USA will either present you with a frozen video player stating "Your video will begin playing after a brief advertisement" in the case of the webisode splash page currently on scifi.com, or a message stating "We're sorry, but the clip selected isn't available from your location. Please select another clip" if the user opens the video on Sci Fi's Pulse website. Users outside of America will have to wait until a DVD release, television broadcast, or some other means becomes available to view them.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Official Statements ==

When ''[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive03#Webisode series|Battlestar Wiki asked Bradley Thompson]]'' about the webisode series, he said:

:"It's true that David Weddle and I wrote the webisodes. Ron Moore and David Eick assigned them to us during the production of Exodus. The ten short segments combine to tell one story, which takes place during the Cylon Occupation that ended Season 2. The webisodes plant seeds that come to fruition in Season 3. They were all directed by Wayne Rose, the veteran director who's been doing 2nd Unit and 1stAD work for the series. The original title of the story was "Crossroads." The running lengths will vary with what's necessary to tell each segment of the story. The first cut I saw of all ten ran about 25 minutes. The run plan we were told was that they'd put up one a week as a countdown to the season premiere -- but SciFi may have other ideas on that by now."

"Nora is played by Emily Holmes. Longo is spelled the way you have it." -- contents of September 5, 2006 message from [[Bradley Thompson]]

=== Contract Disputes and Production Delays===

According to Bradley Thompson, the webisodes were originally meant to be aired once a week, for the 10 weeks preceding the Season 3 premiere on October 6th. This would have resulted in the webisodes premiering in mid-August. However, their release was delayed due to a labor dispute between the Writer's Guild of America and NBC/Universal regarding extra pay for the writers doing the webisodes.

In August 2006, news began to leak out that the release of the webisodes would be delayed, though they were essentially finished at the time. NBC-Universal did not want to pay the writing team for webisodes content, holding that they were not actually covered under Guild contract, and were technically just promotional material. The ''Battlestar Galactica'' writing team embraced the new story opportunity, but other NBC-Universal series such as ''The Office'' felt that webisodes were nothing but extra filler they were being forced to crank out. According to Thompson, the writing team was given extra pay for vaguely described "extra work", but no long-term resolution was ever reached. The WGA is concerned about the long-term implications of online content: writers are not specifically compensated for their work on them, and NBC/Uni might argue that they have no claim on redistribution profits if they try to classify it as "promotional" material. In any event, by August 2006 the negotiations between the WGA and NBC/Uni broke down, and the WGA ordered all series producing webisodes (such as ''Battlestar Galactica'' and ''The Office'') to refuse to physically deliver the webisodes to NBC/Uni for distribution online. NBC/Universal, who produces both shows, has filed a complaint with National Labor Relations Board, claiming that this writing is included in the current WGA contract and urging the NLRB to make the series release the material.

However, several weeks later the finished webisodes were handed over to NBC/Uni. The first of ten webisodes is due to be released on Tuesday, September 5, 2006, and subsequent installments are scheduled for every Tuesday and Thursday until the Season 3 premiere on October 6, 2006.

== Cast ==
These are listed in the order they appeared during the 10 episodes.

*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally]] <ref name="ep1">[[#Episode 1|Episode #1]]</ref> <ref name="ep4">[[#Episode 4|Episode #4]]</ref>
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]] <ref name="ep1"/> <ref name="ep2">[[#Episode 2|Episode #2]]</ref> <ref name="ep3">[[#Episode 3|Episode #3]]</ref>
*[[Christian Tessier]] as [[Tucker Clellan|Tucker "Duck" Clellan]] <ref name="ep1"/> <ref name="ep2"/> <ref name="ep3"/>
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[Jammer]] <ref name="ep1"/> <ref name="ep2"/> <ref name="ep3"/>
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]] <ref name="ep1"/> <ref name="ep2"/> <ref name="ep3"/>
*[[imdb:nm0391820|Emily Holmes]] as [[Nora]] <ref name="ep1"/> <ref name="ep3"/> <ref name="ep4"/>
*[[Alisen Down]] as [[Jean Barolay]] <ref name="ep2"/> <ref name="ep3"/>
*[[imdb:nm0601003|Carmen Moore]] as Sister Tivenan <ref name="ep2"/>
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]

== Crew ==

* Executive producers - [[Ronald D. Moore]] and [[David Eick]]
* Producer - [[Harvey Frand]], [[Bradley Thompson]] (BSG Wiki User Page), and [[David Weddle]]
* Post production - [[Paul Leonard]]
* director of photography was John Drake.
* edited by Michael O'Halloran, Tim Kinzy, Ian Kezbaum, and Harry Jierjian.
* music is by Bear McCreary.
* visual effects were supervised by Gary Hutzel.
* production manager was Boris Ivanov
* first assistant directors were Shirley-Anne Parsons and Alexia Droz.
* second assistant director was Mindy Heslin.
* costumes on the set were supervised by Keith Parent.
* make-up artist was Ankara Eden.
* second assitant make-up person was Liz Raman Nair.
* first assistant hair stylist was Jamie McKay.
* assistants in charge of props were Glenn Hilworth, Gerry Thompson, and Robert Stecky.
* sound mixer was Mark Noda.
* boom operators were Keith Henderson and Tony Wyman.
* first assistant camera person was Shannon Abbott.
* digital imaging technician was Tracy Sim.
* gaffer was Guy Patterson.
* best boy electic was Paul Bougie.
* genny operator was Murray Chysyk.
* lamp op was Blair McDonald.
* key grip was Mark Leiterman.
* best boy grips were Dave McKinlay and Ron Baran.
* script supervisor was Carol Green-Lundy.
* medic and craft services person was Tim Gunderson.
* Galactica Main Title Theme was composed by Richard Gibbs.
* Scoring and orchestral engineering were done by Steve Kaplan.
* music editor was Michael Baber.
* special effects coordinators were Al Collis and Kevin Andruschak.
* studio executive was Richard Rothstein.
* studio executive in charge of production was Todd Sharp.
* network executives were Mark Stern and Erik Storey.

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==
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Talk:Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)/Archive 1

2006-03-28T23:25:55Z

Mrxerox:

== Note on Cylon Numbers ==

I don't know what other people think, but now that four of the twelve Cylon model numbers are accounted for, can we put a note on Conoy saying something to the effect of, "Leoben Conoy is either Number 1, 2, 4, 7, 9, or 10? I couldn't figure out how to place it.--[[User:Wldkt1|Wldkt1]] 18:34, 25 February 2006 (EST)
:There's no way to word it without that being clumsy. We shouldn't make a note of it until we know for certain. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:40, 25 February 2006 (EST)

:Don't bother doing anything saying "well, it's one of these 8 numbers" is just too complicated.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 19:11, 25 February 2006 (EST)

I'm betting on Leoben being number 4. Anyone else want to venture a guess (just for fun)? --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 20:16, 25 February 2006 (EST)

I don't know, he could be number 2--[[User:Wldkt1|Wldkt1]] 20:21, 2 March 2006 (CST)

Hi. I feel I should point out that both the DVD cover and an entry in RDM's Blog at Scifi.com refer to this Cylon as 'Leobon', not 'Leoben'.--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 15:39, 4 March (EST)

:The official site is notriously bad on exact spelling; IMDB lists it with an e.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 14:41, 4 March 2006 (CST)

== Spelling? ==
I don't mean to be dense here, but just why is Leoben's surname consistently spelled "Conoy" when Roslin distinctly pronounces it as "Conroy" in [[Flesh and Bone]]? I've poked around a bit and this is the only instance that I can find of the name actually being spoken in the series. Did Roslin mispronounce it or is this a misspelling that has gotten way out of hand? Just wondering about that for a while now...--[[User:grugnir|Grugnir]]

==Siblings==
Should we mention that all humanoid Cylons are technically siblings, as has been mentioned on screen is thus canon?--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 15:59, 17 March 2006 (EST)

:It would be nice I think. After all, the Cavil's referred to each other as "Brother", and not because of G-Cavil's role as a priest. Six also called Sharon "little sister". This in itself supports not only what they call one another but also possibly supporting the age theory. I just agree that it would be good to add. --[[Sauron18|Sauron18]] 17 March 2006

::It's an "attitude" but not really true; no it should not be included. I mean, Sharon actually said she "thought of" ''Starbuck'' as her "big sister". It should not be put into a character template like that. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 21:47, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:Absolutely not. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:48, 19 March 2006 (CST)
::Don't they say "We are gods childeren." at one point? I have to go back to find the excat wording and when it's said, but I am pretty sure Six (In Guais's Head) says something like this at one point when Eight and the good doctor are together. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:14, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:::Shane, it doesn't matter. The term "siblings" does not apply to Cylons in the conventionally understood sense. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:18, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:::: Mine was just a comment.. Just a comment. But if you want my option.. [[Wikipedia:Sibbling]] defines it as<br/>

::::'''A family is a domestic group of people (or a number of domestic groups), typically affiliated by birth or marriage, or by comparable legal relationships — including domestic partnership, adoption, surname and (in some cases) ownership (as occurred in the Roman Empire).'''

::::'''Although many people (including social scientists) have understood familial relationships in terms of "blood", many anthropologists have argued that one must understand the notion of "blood" metaphorically, and that many societies understand 'family' through other concepts rather than through "blood."'''<br/>

::::Blood or in our case is Synthic Pathways. They are all the same. They seems to have a common bond in which they were formed. They were rasied together, they were "[[Downloaded]]" together, they even have could be considered a [[Wikipedia:Clan]] which falls under Family. As long as one has an understanding of where they came from, in this case God, to them, they have a system of Heiarchy. Even stated right here in [[Cylon_agent]] does it say, "''Cylon agents can be programmed to believe that they are truly human. These are known as "sleeper" agents. Sleeper agents appear to have a low-level Cylon personality that can conduct operations while placing the human sleeper personality "on-hold". The first copy of Sharon Valerii, known by her callsign of "Boomer" on battlestar Galactica, had little awareness of her true nature until her arrest for the attempted assassination of William Adama (Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II). This sleeper agent conducted or aided in sabotage operations within the Fleet ("Water", "Litmus"). Most agent copies, particularly Numbers Five and Six, imitate human personalities, but are fully aware of their true nature.''". This gives me proof that we do beleive that they are somewhat connected and they do feel like Siblings. If this is cause to go against this, we should change that page to say, "They are not connected to one another. No Cylons ever hangs out with another due to the fact they are not related." Not to mention that Cavil says "Hello Brother" as he enters the cell. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:32, 19 March 2006 (CST)

:::::Shane just let it '''go''', it's not supported. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 22:38, 19 March 2006 (CST)
::::::By two people out of a little over 1,000 people on the Wiki? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:40, 19 March 2006 (CST)
:::::::The most it deserves is the (possible) note that they appear to think of eachother as siblings. --[[User:Durandal|Durandal]] 23:36, 19 March 2006 (CST)
::::::::I put that note in the Cylon History article. I thought it might be nice to add them as Siblings, but if the majority is against it I don't mind. Just an idea.--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 13:14, 20 March 2006 (EST)
::::::::: My count from this is... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:40, 20 March 2006 (CST)
:::::::::::It's really not that important.--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:48, 20 March 2006 (EST)

== Straw Vote ==
'''Support'''
# [[User:Shane|Shane]]
# [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]]
# Minor - [[User:Durandal|Durandal]]
# [[UserSauron18|Sauron18]]
'''Not Support'''
# [[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]]
# [[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]]
# [[User:Mrxerox|Mrxerox]]
'''Neutral'''

Gemini

2006-03-28T15:55:01Z

Mrxerox:

The '''''Gemini''''' is an FTL-capable freighter in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] which [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] escorts to [[Laura Roslin]]'s convoy of stranded ships during the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]]. According to [[Lee Adama]], the ship is a tylium refinery ship, and its presence is well appreciated since many of the ships in the convoy require fuel. ([[Miniseries]])

[[Image:GeminiFreighter.jpg|thumb|The freighter ''Gemini'' from [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the original series]].]]

The ''Gemini'' also appears in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]] as the ship where [[Cassiopeia]] is rescued in "[[Saga of a Star World (TOS)|Saga of a Star World]]".

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Talk:Humanoid Cylon speculation/Archive4

2006-03-19T07:14:19Z

Mrxerox: /* Lay Down Your Burdens */

== Please aid in concision ==

This article combines the speculations of the Humano-Cylon and Gaius Baltar articles. As such, it is very wordy. I added the conditional summaries to avoid having to say "Ron Moore said this-and-that" in each item. Still, the article is really all over the place. We need to pare each suspect to the basics--bullets if necessary. Please base your information only on what has been mentioned or clearly stated. Lack of evidence ("Nothing says that the Cylons couldn't have been introduced 5 years before the attacks") is invalid to the information actually stated for both Valerii's and Six character--their history is unclear 2 years prior. Concision should clear up the unnecessary editorial here and bring it to basics. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 00:46, 1 February 2006 (EST)
:Agreed, it should have been edited down for the sake of concision, as other points are made elsewhere. Thank you for editing it down to size. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 00:48, 1 February 2006 (EST)

=="At least" 2 years==

No Cylon ever said out loud, "we've been infiltrating your society for two years"; we saw that Number Six was going out with baltar for 2 years, and then that Galactica-Boomer had been on Galactica for 2 years, then made the connection. However, although ''wide-scale'' infiltration apparently occured 2 years ago, we have no way of knowing if this is when infiltration of any kind actually began. Case in point; Ellen Tigh. A (deleted) scene said that she was married to Saul Tigh for 7 years. Now, I think it would be highly unlikely that the Cylons developed the humanoid Cylons 10 years after the Cylon War (30 years ago) or something, but the possibility that they were using them for the past 5-10 years seems within the realm of possibility to me. Again, there was never a definative "rule". --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 00:48, 1 February 2006 (EST)

:I tend to agree. Although circumstantial evidence points to a widespread infiltration campaign launching two years before the miniseries, we have no idea when the Cylons actually developed the ability to construct humanoid models. This, however, should be noted once at the head of the article, not on a per-candidate basis. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:10, 1 February 2006 (EST)

::The circumstantial evidence is all we can go on to keep from making stuff up out of the range of given information. It was Baltar, talking to Six, that gave the length of time, but I can't recall Valerii's comment or reference to it. Yes, we do need to avoid repetition; there's a lot of it. I don't believe this article is intending to address or imply that the humanoid Cylons were created 2 years prior, but begin to appear 2 years prior. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:49, 1 February 2006 (EST)

:::But that's really the point (not "when were they made"); when were they ''first'' used to infiltrate the Colonies? We really don't know; we only know that two units were inside for 2 years. BTW, it's in "The Farm" when Adama states that Boomer was on the ship for almost 2 years. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 15:35, 1 February 2006 (EST)

::::Katee Sackhoff mentioned in an interview that Starbuck had known Boomer for 7 years. That would mean 2 years on Galactica and 5 years of training before that, which makes sense as realisitically not even the Cylons could sneak an agent into the military without any training period. It's much harder than creating a civilian ID, and probably the reason why Boomer had to be a sleeper agent. --[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:54, 2 March 2006 (EST)
:::::This could have just been subject to change. --00:43, 3 March 2006 (CST)

== Billy's Entry ==
There is nothing of note in Billy's entry that could not be also said about Dualla, Tyrol, Cally, Racetrack, Kat, and other minor characters. It's unlikely that we can vouch for all character histories. It's their signficant, influential moments in an episode that appear questionable in intent, or their associations that are important. If there isn't a significant point about Billy's history that puts him at the same level of suspicion as Jammer or Bell, I move to strike this. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:06, 1 February 2006 (EST)
:Well, A) It's always the guy you least suspect, though that's more "paranoia" B) no one knows him, I mean even deckahands like Cally or Jammer were on the ship for at least a period of a few months, but *no one* other than Roslin met him before he first shows up on screen. And it would make sense to infiltrate a position with access to a cabinet member. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 15:37, 1 February 2006 (EST)
::Not disagreeing, but note that she was an extremely low-ranking cabinet member, and I doubt that the Cylons could have forseen either her "access" to Adar, or her assumption of the presidency after the attack. Besides, they already had Doral following her to Galactica's decommissioning ceremony. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:09, 1 February 2006 (EST)

Given that Billy is now dead, his plausibility as a Cylon is completely moot ''unless'' he is found resurrected in a future episode (non-flashback). Only a Cylon agent comes back, which would validate the claim. Also, given that there hasn't been any further points that significantly differentiate his character's suspicion criteria over any other lesser character, I'd rather strike this. Farago's point that Roslin was accompanied by Doral indicates that ''Galactica'' was monitored anyway. There's no real logic leap that can give the Keikeya suspicion enough grounding in comparison to the others. Technically, Roslin herself could be a Cylon with the same logic in that we don't know for sure where she's been in the last two years beyond what's said in the miniseries and "Ephiphanies." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:58, 13 February 2006 (EST)

:If Billy was a cylon, what would his purpose have been? I can't see TPTB deciding to reveal him as a cylon in a future episode because it wouldn't make any sense! He would have had to be a sleeper agent, but he didn't do anything! For almost 9 months! When you're asleep that long, you're practically dead. It should be struck (striked?) --[[User:Drumstick|Drumstick]] 16:59, 25 February 2006 (EST)

== Apollo's Entry ==

Is it permissible to post a link to fanfiction? --[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]]

: Permissible, possibly. But will it be helpful at all? The Lee-Is-A-Cylon thing is, as I understand it, perpetuated almost entirely by fanfiction. Except that a decent sized group of BSG (RDM) fans like this idea, we'd have thrown Lee off the list a long time ago because we can attest to the fact that he has a father. Linking the fiction would, I think, make it easy for a casual reading to misconstrue a case for Lee's being a Cylon as anything more than ver, very weak. Also... for ease of reading, please try to remember to sign your posts. Easy mistake to make. Just keep it in mind. --[[User:Day|Day]] 23:46, 2 March 2006 (CST)

:Under ''no'' circumstances is it permissible; didn't the section on Apollo make the point that BattlestarWiki does not support such things? Honestly; 20 people make a Apollo-as-Cylon fanfic, then post links to it ''endlessly'' on the poorly-moderated official messageboards. This matter should be dropped. I am sorry, but on this matter there is no question. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:45, 3 March 2006 (CST)

== Baltar's Entry ==

Can we rule out Baltar as a Cylon now that we've seen "Downloaded"? The whole thing with Six seeing BALTAR in her head seem to imply a certain duality... Six's Baltar is trying to push the human agenda, and Baltar's Six is trying to push the Cylon agenda.--[[User:Mojorising1985|Mojorising1985]] 23:54, 24 February 2006 (EST)

:Yes, please. If Baltar were a Cylon, they couldn't have ''not'' mentioned it in "Downloaded". The whole line of inquiriy is ridiculous. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:00, 25 February 2006 (EST)

::Plus, numerous Cylon characters referred to him as human. I'm glad. I think it's a lot less interesting if he were a Cylon. I feel a bit reluctant to remove the whole thing though... I'll just add some information against it from Downloaded, and if anyone else feels it needs to go, they're welcome to delete it. --[[User:Mojorising1985|Mojorising1985]] 00:02, 25 February 2006 (EST)

:::My inclination is to give the "Baltar is a Cylon" boosters a couple days to defend the material here before we chop it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:05, 25 February 2006 (EST)

:::By all means, I feel that we should give them a few days to defend themselves. However, although Six hallucinates Baltar...it is clearly implied that no other Cylons knew about him, and Number Three even says that they both fell in love with humans.
My feelings on the matter, summed up into an easy to read list, are:
:*Baltar-Six is definately NOT the same person as the Number Six we see at the beginning of the Miniseries: Caprica-Six is someone else entirely. Did she load *a separate, backup copy* of herself into Baltar? Still a possibility.
:*Baltar-Six is not a hallucination, this has been proven in "Home, Part II", but no chip is visible on scans: I believe that she is an "Organic Chip", undetectable to scans, and not an "angel" as she claims.
:*Caprica-Six's hallucinated visions of Baltar on the other hand, are simply that: hallucinations, brought on by the apparent stress of killing the man she loved
:*As an inhuman robot not used to emotions or love, this had a profound affect on her; even disregarding Baltar, she is also feeling profound guilt over killing the human race, because after loving Baltar, she's come to think that a loving God would never want what the Cylons did.
:So he's not a Cylon; it's just a cool way of visually showing us that Number Six and the Cylons are so near-human that when placed under moral strain or something, they can hallucinate just like people can. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:50, 25 February 2006 (EST)

*I will go out on a limb, and propose that this is in fact conclusive proof that Baltar is not a Cylon, because the Cylons amongst themselves say that he is a human. I had been waiting until (my pet theory) Baltar impregnants Gina, but now I feel that this is grounds, '''Spencerian''', to remind you of our [[Talk:Gaius Baltar#A Friendly Wager, Spencerian|Gentlemanly wager]], that if Baltar were proved not to be a Cylon, you would support me in an Administrator election. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:53, 25 February 2006 (EST)

::Not only is the notion staking an RFA vote on a petty wager rather more than a little disquieting, I'm not even sure Spence ever agreed to those terms. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:12, 25 February 2006 (EST)

:::Given that it was a back and forth conversation, to which he gave no refusal in reply, at the time at least, this gave the impression of tacit admission of the terms. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 21:45, 25 February 2006 (EST)

The wager is not changed, but you came very close to losing it in "Downloaded." Nor, however, has any proof been revealed in this episode that negates the possibility of Baltar as a Cylon. In fact, since ''only'' Baltar and Six have appeared as virtual beings, this actually ''reinforces,'' not diminishes the possibility since, to this episode, only a Cylon image has appeared this way. Since ''both'' Baltar and Six appear as virtual beings to each other, AND this phenomena is obviously not known or planned for by the Cylons, this doesn't change the nature of what Baltar is or is not (or, by extension, Six). The results from "Downloaded" DO invalidate some of the postulations in the Gaius-the-Cylon speculation, which I will note when I can. When humans and Cylons are in love, things get weird. Note that this hasn't happened with Boomer and Tyrol, but maybe, maybe, their love was not complete enough to create this strange exchange of "love echo." Oh, and for two beings to have the ''exact'' kind of "hallucination" suggests that it is not an hallucination at all. Something else is going on. Peter's point on Baltar's lack of note by other Cylons, however, does have a point, of which I will chew on before commenting further. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:09, 25 February 2006 (EST)

:But if Baltar was a Cylon, than why was Six-Baltar pushing for the "human agenda" and talking about how bad it was that millions of humans were killed? --[[User:Mojorising1985|mojorisng1985]] 18:04, 25 February 2006 (EST)

::It was her impression of Baltar (whom she thinks is human). (I think this whole line of speculation is absolutely ludicrous, by the way; but that question really doesn't change anything.) --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 20:21, 25 February 2006 (EST)

:::Indeed, this is absolutely nuts. From an in-continuity perspective, the only way Baltar could ''possibly'' be a Cylon as of this episode would be if neither Caprica-Six, Galactica-Valerii, or Caprica-Three knew about it. Caprica-Three appeared to be very high-ranking - she apparently has the authority to have other cylons "boxed", and she knew that Baltar was still alive - something that was not public knowlege. From a dramatic perspective, it's completely impossible, and would invalidate the last two seasons worth of character development. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:51, 25 February 2006 (EST)

:"We're two heroes of the cylon, right? Two heroes with different perspectives on the war. Perspectives based by our love of two human beings". Cylons, talking amongst themselves, refer to Baltar as a human being in the episode "Downloaded". This alone is quite a good piece of evidence. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 21:46, 25 February 2006 (EST)

::OK, the damage done to Baltar's speculation is nearly complete, but I do not fully concede. I've clarified the information from "Downloaded" but added one important matter: Since the virtual Six and Baltar are not a Cylon creation, where in the world do they come from, and why doesn't Tyrol have a virtual Boomer? Until more information comes out, its my last shot in this salvo that still leaves a thread of doubt. We'll need to condense Baltar's entry later since many concepts there appear invalidated or contradictory to aired content. Oh, and just because the two Cylons believed they were in love with two humans doesn't make it patently true. What did Baltar think ''he'' was shagging before Six's revelation? The writers twist and turn, and I don't believe we're done with this, but yep, my ship is sinking, although not sunk, and I'm still armed with name-calling, a claim that you smell of elderberries, and flatulence in your general direction. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:34, 3 March 2006 (CST)

:In Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II when Baltar has sex with Gina, does that disprove once him being a cylon. I would think that anyone who would have doubts after Downloaded would have to accept the fact that Baltar's spine did not turn red and therefore he can't be a cylon. Ronald D. Moore himself said in the commentary in the mini-series that the Humano-Cylon spines all turn red. Shouldn't we take him off of the speculated Humano-Cylon agent list?--Zareck Rocks 16:45, 12 March 2006 (CST)

== Additional Qualifier for Speculation? ==

"According to Ron D. Moore, the twelve humanoid models are based on human behavior and personality archetypes distilled into twelve varieties."

It would seem, then, that any new Cylon agents will also need to have reasonably archetypal personalities that are notably different from known agents.
--[[User:Mckooper|Mckooper]] 14:24, 6 March 2006 (CST)
:Very true. Good thinking. Personally I find Billy to be too much like Doral.--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:31, 6 March (EST)

:: This is my main arguement against Ellen Tigh being a Cylon. She's the same, archetypally, as Six, basically: The attractive, sexually agressive blonde. I'm waiting for model, let's say, Number 12: The Nerd. *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] 23:30, 7 March 2006 (CST)

== Lay Down Your Burdens ==

Wouldn't the Season Finale exonerate Ellen, the Adamas and Gaeta? There were dozens of Centurions marching through that city. Surely if Ellen were a Cylon, she would have simply joined in the parade as a matter of pride? The Adamas wouldn't have jumped away of either of them were Cylons. And if Gaeta were a Cylon, wouldn't he have simply dropped the charade when he told Baltar they had arrived? [[User:Ragestorm|Ragestorm]] 11:59, 11 March 2006 (CST)
:Even in German-occupied France in World War II, the Gestapo still had spies pretending to be French to try to infiltrate any resistance. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 12:07, 11 March 2006 (CST)
::Yes, and we have no particular reason to believe that conquering New Caprica is the end goal for the Cylons; this may only be a push to guide them in a different direction, in which the hidden agents still have a role to play. That said, I do wonder what new human models we'll see on New Caprica. My guess is that at least one will be of the same type as someone in Adama's fleet. --[[User:Saforrest|Saforrest]] 13:11, 11 March 2006 (CST)
:They may be sleeper agents anyway, and their programming didn't tell them to "wake up"[[User:Mrxerox|MrXerox]] 1:38 19 March 2006 (CST)

== The Chief? ==

What about the chief? Should someone add something for him? Cavil... who was later revealed to be a Cylon, said that he hadn't seen him at any of the cylon parties, the same thing six said about doral. Plus, he kept on wondering why Tyrol couldn't see what was "right in front of his face". And he said "I'm not a Cylon", just like Boomer did in the season 1 finale. It might at least be a possibility. Finally, Cally's pregnancy might be an attempt at creating something similar to Helo/Boomer's child, but with the gender reversed... to see if a Cylon could impregnate a human female. Indeed, that was my intital thought when I accidentally stumbled across pictures of Cally pregnant.

Nah, Tyrol can't be a Cylon. That doesn't fit the Cylon M.O. of trying to make a baby. Remember that Tyrol was with Sharon before, and that they were planing to "Muster out at the end of their service," and get married and have kids, ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]). --[[User:FIDS|FIDS]] 12:07, 12 March 2006 (CST)

if the chief were a Cylon, Three wouldn't have been as worried about Galactica-Sharon in "Downloaded." She would have just shown her another Tyrol copy. It's essentially the same reason Baltar can't be a Cylon: they may try to hide it from the humans, but why hide it from other Cylons? [[User:Ragestorm|Ragestorm]] 19:27, 12 March 2006 (EST)