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		<title>Brendan Costanza</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-13T19:04:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* Biography */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Character Data| &lt;br /&gt;
|photo= Hotdog.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|age=&lt;br /&gt;
|colony=&lt;br /&gt;
|birthname= Brendan Costanza&lt;br /&gt;
|callsign= Hot Dog&lt;br /&gt;
|seen= Act of Contrition&lt;br /&gt;
|death= &lt;br /&gt;
|parents= &lt;br /&gt;
|siblings= &lt;br /&gt;
|children= &lt;br /&gt;
|marital status= Single&lt;br /&gt;
|role= [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilot, [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|rank= Lieutenant&lt;br /&gt;
|actor= [[Bodie Olmos]]&lt;br /&gt;
|cylon= &lt;br /&gt;
|name= &lt;br /&gt;
}} &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Lt. Brendan &amp;quot;Hot Dog&amp;quot; Costanza&#039;&#039;&#039; is a cocksure pilot, originally washed out of Colonial flight school, but selected as a candidate pilot ([[nugget]]) for [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] training under the command of [[Kara Thrace|Kara &amp;quot;Starbuck&amp;quot; Thrace]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Biography ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza was a Fleet Academy washout, surviving the [[Cylon Holocaust]].  He is recruited as a Viper pilot trainee after an accident kills 13 Viper pilots, including [[Dwight Saunders|Flat Top]] ([[Act of Contrition]]).  Initially washed out from Viper training under Lieutenant [[Kara Thrace]], Costanza is reinstated after Commander [[William Adama]] ordered his and other nuggets&#039; return to flight training status.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HotDog YCGHA.JPG|thumb|left|Hot Dog after his reckless attempt to save Lieutenant Thrace ([[Act of Contrition]]).]] After the reinstatement, Costanza demonstrates an aptitude for being inventive and an overenthusiastic tendency for taking initiative. He acts more experienced than he really is and tries to be top dog.  Costanza demonstrates this when a group of eight [[Cylon Raiders]] encounter Starbuck, Hot Dog and his fellow nuggets on a training flight. Instead of obeying Starbuck&#039;s orders by returning to &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039; at full throttle, Hot Dog returns to assist Thrace as a wingman. This act almost gets the young, inexperienced pilot killed, but buys Starbuck time to dispatch all eight Raiders in a situation where, if not for Hot Dog&#039;s distraction of the collective enemy fighter group, Starbuck&#039;s odds of survival would be considerably less ([[Act of Contrition]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza ejects from his severely damaged Viper and is subsequently rescued by [[Alert Fighters|Alert 1]] ([[Act of Contrition]]) and a [[Raptor]] piloted by [[Sharon Valerii]] and [[Crashdown]], but not before vomiting on the Raptor&#039;s deck. A short time later, after briefing Commander Adama, Hot Dog is led to [[sickbay]], but not before Captain [[Lee Adama]] removes his own Viper flight wings from his uniform and pins them on Hotdog for his bravery ([[You Can&#039;t Go Home Again]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza develops a bond with [[Louanne Katraine]] and [[Perry|Chuckles]], members of his training group ([[Act of Contrition]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hot Dog takes part in the attack on a Cylon tylium refinery as part of Strike Force One. It appears he assumes command of the group with the death of their flight leader, [[Fireball]] ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hot Dog takes part in defending &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from a Cylon attack while she relocates the separated Fleet ([[Scattered]]).  After returning to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Hot Dog survives a brief run in with a [[Cylon Centurion]] that boards the ship. With shipboard systems unreliable, [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] orders Hot Dog to personally report the situation to [[CIC]] ([[Valley of Darkness]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While flying [[Combat Air Patrol|CAP]], Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] orders Hot Dog to intercept a Raptor carring the escaping President [[Laura Roslin]]. After pilot [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] continues their escape after Hot Dog fires a warning shot across his bow, Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] orders Hot Dog to stand down rather than shoot Apollo&#039;s Raptor down ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza is one of the pilots, along with [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], who are scrambled to intercept two Cylon raiders on a presumed reconnaissance mission to find &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The raiders are dispatched with ease, though their real mission was to relay a transmission from a [[Number Three|Cylon agent]] on board &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to Caprica ([[Final Cut]]). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza is with [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] practicing handgun marksmanship when a Cylon computer virus nearly suffocates the trio. Later, Hot Dog is scrambled with the rest of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s air group to face a massive formation of Cylon forces. With the timely intervention of [[Sharon Agathon|Caprica-Sharon]], the enemy fighters are disabled and Hot Dog joyfully takes part in the [[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]] ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza is among the pilots on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; assigned to patrol the asteroid field during mining operations. He survives the operation, though several of his fellow pilots do not ([[Scar]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hot Dog leads [[Blue Squadron (RDM)|Blue Squadron]] in the attack on the shipyard on New Caprica, when he and his wingman [[Redwing]] provide cover fire for resistance members attempting to enter the facility ([[Exodus, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza is the one that suggests [[Athena]] as a callsign for [[Sharon Agathon]]. He appears to be one of Major [[Lee Adama]]&#039;s senior pilots ([[Torn]]) and is a member of the boarding party sent to investigate the dying Cylon basestar found in the [[Lion&#039;s Head Nebula]] ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At a mission briefing he complains about a rash in his pubic region. Helo teases him about and says that he hopes the girl was worth it, moving to the next seat ([[A Day in the Life]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Costanza is assigned to fly as [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]]&#039;s wingman during a routine CAP while the fleet undergoes refueling operations near a gas giant. It is on one of these CAPs Starbuck believes to have made visual contact with a Cylon ship, though Costanza and Starbuck&#039;s gun camera see nothing ([[Maelstrom]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two weeks after [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]]&#039;s death, Costanza is present during the daily mission brief conducted by [[Lee Adama]] immediately prior to the Major being taken off flight status and replaced with [[Karl Agathon]] as CAG ([[The Son Also Rises]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the opening days of Baltar&#039;s trial, Costanza is playing a game of [[Pyramid]] in [[Joe&#039;s bar]] with the [[nuggets]] [[Diana Seelix]] and [[Samuel Anders]] ([[Crossroads, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] is promoted to Lieutenant after passing through Viper training, so presumably Hot Dog has also been promoted to Lieutenant by the episode &amp;quot;[[Final Cut]]&amp;quot;, but this has not been confirmed in an aired episode as yet. Apparently, as seen in the episode &amp;quot;[[Scar]]&amp;quot; newly graduated cadets actually hold the rank of Ensign, and presumably get promoted over time.  However, Kat had been confirmed as a Lieutenant at that time and Hot Dog has been a pilot as just as long as her (they were in the first batch of nuggets), so he is probably a Lieutenant as well.&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Bodie Olmos]] is the youngest son of [[Edward James Olmos]] ([[William Adama|Admiral William Adama]]) and the grandson of actor/singer Howard Keel.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the DVD commentary for &amp;quot;[[Act of Contrition]]&amp;quot;, David Eick and Ron D. Moore elaborate on the increased role of the nugget pilots as the series progressed:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Eick:  This young actress playing Kat has proven to be--and there&#039;s Bodie Olmos, Eddie&#039;s son, in the center there who&#039;s Hot Dog, he&#039;s also become a recurring character.&lt;br /&gt;
:RDM:  Well those three in the front, [[Perry|Chuckles]], Hot Dog, and [[Kat]], they all became &amp;quot;pilots&amp;quot; to us.  And I don&#039;t think we really had any expectation of that.  The idea was we were going to do &amp;quot;the nuggets&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;the new pilots&amp;quot;, was just going to be its own kind of story, and &#039;&#039;maybe&#039;&#039; you might see one of these guys again later.  And what started happening is the writers just started putting them in, like almost every scene that we dealt with the pilots (of Galactica) so these &#039;&#039;became&#039;&#039; our &amp;quot;recognizable faces&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*During the initial briefing with [[Starbuck]], Hotdog can be seen to be flipping his pen around his fingers in a similar fashion to &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; from the movie &amp;quot;Top Gun&amp;quot; ([[Act of Contrition]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Characters}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:A to Z|Costanza, Brendan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Characters|Costanza, Brendan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Characters (RDM)|Costanza, Brendan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Recurring Guest Characters (RDM)|Costanza, Brendan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM|Costanza, Brendan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Brendan Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Brendan Constanza]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Breeders_Canyon&amp;diff=124752</id>
		<title>Breeders Canyon</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-06T04:47:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon.png|right|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon (2).png|right|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon (3).png|thumb|right|150px|Raptors flying into the canyon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Breeders Canyon&#039;&#039;&#039; is a natural landmark on [[New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was carved out by a shallow, winding river that flows through the center of the valley.  Surrounding the river is a forest containing numerous trees and shrubs.  The greenery continues up the canyon walls until the peaks of the rocks, which appear to be barren sandstone.  From [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol&#039;s]] comments, Breeders Canyon is apparently a long distance to walk from [[New Caprica City]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This canyon&#039;s riverbanks are selected as the rendezvous point between &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica&#039;s]]&#039;&#039; [[Raptor]] team led by [[Sharon Agathon]], and the New Caprica resistance led by [[Samuel Anders]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After [[Ellen Tigh]] tips off the Cylons in an effort to save [[Saul Tigh|her husband]] from further persecution, [[Cylon Centurion]]s ambush the united team, taking the lives of a few insurgents, but are destroyed by a team of Marines under Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]] ([[Exodus, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Places]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Breeders_Canyon&amp;diff=124751</id>
		<title>Breeders Canyon</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-06T04:46:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon.png|right|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon (2).png|right|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon (3).png|thumb|right|150px|Raptors flying into the canyon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Breeders Canyon&#039;&#039;&#039; is a natural landmark on [[New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was carved out by a shallow, winding river that flows through the center of the valley.  Surrounding the river is a forest containing numerous trees and shrubs.  The greenery continues up the canyon walls until the peaks of the rocks, which appear to be barren sandstone.  From [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol&#039;s]] comments, Breeders Canyon is apparently a long distance to walk from [[New Caprica City]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This canyon&#039;s riverbanks are selected as the rendezvous point between &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica&#039;s]]&#039;&#039; [[Raptor]] team led by [[Sharon Agathon]], and the New Caprica resistance led by [[Samuel Anders]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After [[Ellen Tigh]] tips off the Cylons in an effort to save [[Saul Tigh|her husband]] from further persecution, [[Cylon Centurion]]s ambush the united team, taking the lives of a few insurgents, but are destroyed by a team of Marines under Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]] who anticipated such an attack ([[Exodus, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Places]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Breeders_Canyon&amp;diff=124750</id>
		<title>Breeders Canyon</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-06T04:46:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon.png|right|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon (2).png|right|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breeder&#039;s Canyon (3).png|thumb|right|150px|Raptors flying into the canyon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Breeders Canyon&#039;&#039;&#039; is a natural landmark on [[New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was carved out by a shallow, winding river that flows through the center of the valley.  Surrounding the river is a forest containing numerous trees and shrubs.  The greenery continues up the canyon walls until the peaks of the rocks, which appear to be barren sandstone.  From [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol&#039;s]] comments, Breeders Canyon is apparently a long distance to walk from [[New Caprica City]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This canyon&#039;s riverbanks are selected as the rendezvous point between &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica&#039;s]]&#039;&#039; [[Raptor]] team led by [[Sharon Agathon]], and the New Caprica resistance led by [[Samuel Anders]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After [[Ellen Tigh]] tips off the Cylons in an effort to save [[Saul Tigh|her husband]] from further persecution, [[Cylon Centurion]]s ambush the united team, taking the lives of a few insurgents, but are destroyed by a team of Marines under Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]] who anticipated such an attack([[Exodus, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Places]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Picon_Panthers&amp;diff=124749</id>
		<title>Picon Panthers</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-06T04:45:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;Picon Panthers&#039;&#039;&#039; were a professional [[pyramid (RDM)|pyramid]] team.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rivals of the [[Caprica Buccaneers]], Admiral [[William Adama]] playfully tells [[Samuel Anders]] (moments after he disembarks from the [[Raptor]]s that rescue he and his [[Caprica Resistance|resistance group]] from occupied [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]) that the Panthers were his favorite ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).  [[Sharon Agathon]] yells &amp;quot;Go Panthers!&amp;quot; while in [[Breeders Canyon]] on [[New Caprica]] to ascertain that the people approaching her position are [[Samuel Anders]] and the rendezvous party.  Anders replies by yelling &amp;quot;[[Caprica Buccaneers|C-Bucs]] rule!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Colonial]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Colonial Society]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Colonial Society (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Pyramid teams]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mentioned-Only]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mentioned-Only (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Scar_(Raider)&amp;diff=124649</id>
		<title>Scar (Raider)</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-04T20:23:13Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article is about the [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raider]] named Scar. For the episode with the same name, see [[Scar]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Character Data &lt;br /&gt;
|photo=Scar Scar.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
|nickname= Scar&lt;br /&gt;
|death= Destroyed by Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]] in episode &amp;quot;[[Scar]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|role= Ace [[Cylon Raider]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scar&#039;&#039;&#039; is the [[Colonial]]s&#039; nickname for a [[Cylon]] [[Raider]] fighter ace. The nickname is derived from battle damage on the Raider&#039;s fuselage that resembles a scar.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Scar is responsible for many ruthless, successful attacks against mining vessels deployed from the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] into a treacherous asteroid field. It is known for its taste for [[Nugget|nuggets]] and favors separating them from their wingmates for an easy kill. The need to eliminate Scar&#039;s threat increases a pilot rivalry between Captain [[Kara Thrace]] and Lieutenant [[Louanne Katraine]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Scar is later destroyed on the 29th day of mining operations. Starbuck engages Scar but breaks off a suicidal run against it in favor of luring it into the sights of her wingmate, Kat. Kat scores a crippling blow on Scar, causing it to careen into an asteroid, killing it in an explosion of shrapnel and gore. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is postulated by [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Sharon]] that the cause of Scar&#039;s unusual aggressiveness was pent-up rage after repeated painful deaths and [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrections]]. It is unlikely that Scar will be resurrected again, due to a [[Resurrection Ship, Part II|recent loss]] of a nearby [[Resurrection Ship]] ([[Scar]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* This storyline of destroying an enemy fighter ace may be derived from the Royal Air Force&#039;s hunt for [[Wikipedia:Manfred von Richthofen|the Red Baron]] during [[Wikipedia:World War I|World War I]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Scar may be the reincarnation of the Raider that Starbuck kills and flies in &amp;quot;[[You Can&#039;t Go Home Again]]&amp;quot;, as hinted by Caprica-Valerii.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Cylons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Cylons (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: RDM]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Humanoid_Cylon/Archive4&amp;diff=124641</id>
		<title>Talk:Humanoid Cylon/Archive4</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-04T20:06:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* Listing death of Cylon humanoids? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{archive-header&lt;br /&gt;
| archivenumber = 01&lt;br /&gt;
| number = 1&lt;br /&gt;
| start = April 2, 2005&lt;br /&gt;
| end = January 23, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
| items = {{archive-item|01|12 Cylon or 12 Humano-Cylon models?}} {{archive-item|01|Same, yet Different?}} {{archive-item|01|Origin of the Term &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot;?}} {{archive-item|01|Hybrids/Sharon&#039;s daughter article?}} {{archive-item|01|Order of Models}} {{archive-item|01|Re: Adama and Gaeta being ruled out as &amp;quot;Humano-Cylons&amp;quot;}} {{archive-item|01|Ellen Tigh}} {{archive-item|01|Cylon Series Revision}} {{archive-item|01|Did Boomer really know the count of infiltrators}} {{archive-item|end=Y|01|List of people who are ruled out as Cylons?}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Anti-Atheist Opinions ==&lt;br /&gt;
I just removed anti-atheist comments added to the cavil entry.  just because he&#039;s an atheist doesn&#039;t make him automatically immoral and worse than his religious counterparts.   Nor has cavil shown anything that one couldn&#039;t find in his religious counterparts, he&#039;s just obtuse.  [[User:Azselendor|Azselendor]] 13:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Replacement and retirement of article title ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;This discussion&#039;s origin originated in [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions/Archive02#Replacement and retirement of the term &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot;|the Standards and Conventions talk page]], where you can find the original content.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Per the discussion in the above link, I plan to move this article to [[Cylon agent]], as it is the most commonly used term to describe the humanoid Cylon models. &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; will redirect here, and we will need to scour for other terms to redirect as well. This name is sufficiently canonical that it is unlikely that further debate is required. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:58, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it. Though with an article title of &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;, it would be great to have a screen capture of the file on Laura&#039;s desk that has that wording on it. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:04, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I may just spend $2 on iTunes to get just that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:14, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Move completed; no Big Thang. Summary subarticle in Cylon series pages also updated. Please update any pages for old terminology when appropriate. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:33, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Am I right in saying that all references to Humano-Cylon should be changed to Cylon agent&amp;gt; --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 08:12, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s correct. We&#039;re going with &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; since the only evidence indicating &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; (see below) may have been doctored by the Cylons to throw us off... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:19, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Just to clarify; they made the picture below as a joke.  Really, we discussed it on our Conventions page, and &amp;quot;human-cylon&amp;quot; seemed too much like describing the Hybrid, and hasn&#039;t gained much outside use, so we opted for something else.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 14:05, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Known Cylon Agents ==&lt;br /&gt;
That pic is AWESOME! It fits the section so well that I would normally suspect that it had been photoshopped (if I hadn&#039;t already seen it in the show). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:00, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps you moved the article too soon...&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll likely delete this image soon. I just had the idea of Photoshopping the folder after the preceding post. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 18:19, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Photoshop: Suitable tool, or instrument of Satan? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:37, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Naming Convention ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As of &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; we now finally know some other Model numbers besides Number Six:  &amp;quot;D&#039;anna Biers&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three&#039;&#039;&#039;, &amp;quot;Aaron Doral&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Five&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &amp;quot;Sharon &#039;Boomer&#039; Valerii&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Eight&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In light of this, should we change the title of some, or all, of their character articles to read &amp;quot;Number Three&amp;quot;, etc. like for Number Six?  Because apparently, among themselves the Cylons never actually use the fake human names some used as spys, or indeed refer to themselves by name at all. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 02:59, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would think that the unfortunately named Number Two is a pretty thankless job. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:00, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, where those numbers are known. I broached the subject on [[Talk:Sharon Valerii]] and am currently awaiting a little more feedback before we go ahead with the move. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:07, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do the Cylons tend to look out for Number One? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 03:09, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Number One is not a number, he is a man. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:10, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A free man? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 03:24, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with changing the title of ALL articles referring to the mainstream model, making two new for D&#039;anna and Aaron (the media models) like we did for the sharons and sixes.--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]  25 February 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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When did &amp;quot;we&amp;quot; start calling them &amp;quot;Galactica-Boomer&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Caprica-Boomer&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Pegasus-Six&amp;quot;, etc?  You see, Televesionwithoutpity.com does make up and popularize terms like this....but I&#039;m not sure if they STARTED using it, or if they TOOK UP using it from some reviewer or the messageboards.  I seriously think this is one of those Stand Alone Complex things; we all just more or less independently, from the grassroots up, got the idea to do that.  Anyone? --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 04:49, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Pretty much. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:03, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I generally compel the proper use of &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; to the Galactica model only, as she is the copy that actually served. &#039;&#039;No one&#039;&#039; in episodes have called the Caprica copy by that name, and things are confusing enough. &amp;quot;Caprica-Valerii&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Galactica-Valerii&amp;quot; (or Boomer) is better. Otherwise, yes, we have to make things up until we get an official term, but we should be consistent and precise about it. &#039;&#039;Never&#039;&#039; use Sharon in any context--use of character first names only is against wiki convention in episode summaries. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:19, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Actually, Baltar called Caprica-Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; at the end of Home, part 2. But what does he know?--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:55, 9 March 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: a Cylon agent transfers its consciousness... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just started watching BSG about a week ago and im only part way through season 2, but I&#039;m thinking isn&#039;t there a way for the Galactica crew to stop the cylon agents they kill from transmiting their consciousness? Cant they put the agent in a room with thick metal walls to stop the signal, or put their bodies into a woodchipper, or something similar, so whatever system in the body that transmits will be destroyed? In season one they just tossed the agent out an airlock, they didn&#039;t even try to stop him. I guess they really haven&#039;t explained yet how it is even possible for the agent&#039;s body to come up with enough energy to transmit their entire consciousness in an undetectable signal instantly across several light years. Maybe they&#039;ll get to it in a future episode, including the ones I haven&#039;t seen yet. Right now, its very magical fairies. --[[User:Bp|Bp]] 17:07, 9 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It comes up a bit later. Specifically, right after the mid-season cliff-hanger of Season 2. Not &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; your questions will be answered, but it becomes less magical. *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] 02:09, 10 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grace Park Reveals Cylon Secrets.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
MediaBlvd&#039;s interview with Grace Park was releasd in the full today, revealing a few more things about the nature of the Cylons that had not been released before. A lot of things are Park&#039;s own point of view, but she does mention a few interesting facts she read in the &amp;quot;Cylon Handout&amp;quot;. Some of these facts include:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot; Because Cylons were created in the form of humans, and humans were created in God’s image, and Cylons want to be close to God, they can actually choose - but some models more likely than others tend to eat rather than just taking in nutrients.  We just learned all this, I didn’t even know it, but taking in nutrients, I think through the skin&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;There would be specific ports in the Cylon base ship that they could do this, and they can also do that with information.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;- it wasn’t a very specific jack, like your phone jack in the wall.  Nothing like that in her arm.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;A little bit of both of that.  Within one model, the different bodies can share memories, but within that model only.  Now I use the words ‘CAN share memories,’ because it’s not like they all automatically share them.  I’m under the understanding that you can choose to upload, and you can choose to download information.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;- that the Cylons that we’ve known so far are programmed not even to think about the last five.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the actual facts she mentions, amidst her opinions, but what I posted were the solid facts. The last one had already been mentioned before, but this comment clarified that it&#039;s not that they don&#039;t know who they are, they just don&#039;t think about them.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are also some other interesting tidbits in there (such as why exactly the Naked Sharons let themeselves die) which may help other articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted to ask before posting any of this information, it&#039;s all solid and concise, but should we nonetheless abstain from putting in the bits we got (because we have nothing else and it would prove to be tantalizing). I think we should put it in, since they are actual facts from the new &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot;, but I wanted to pass it here so that you can judge on where to put them and how to word them. (Cuz I suck at actually adding it on the article, so I&#039;d rather share the info and let someone else do the fine tuning on the article itself)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s kind of how I always rationalized they must share info; not between models, not a hive mind, they CAN but don&#039;t alaways.  This &amp;quot;nutrient bath&amp;quot; thing is new and intruiging though.  &amp;quot;This form brings us closer to God&amp;quot;; yeah I was already theorizing on this after that comment in KLG II that that&#039;s why they wanted to appear humanlike.  Anyway, great to get some more or less confirmation on those musings/speculation.  ***I don&#039;t know why, but some people treated it as a &amp;quot;oh my God, massive spoiler&amp;quot; that the 7 known Cylon models might not consciously think of who the unrevealed ones are.  I mean, it doesn&#039;t actually affect the plot or ANY of our speculation so far; always assumed they had some sort of saftey feature like that for secrecy. &#039;&#039;&#039;I wonder:  was this &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot; RECENTLY written?&#039;&#039;&#039;  The [[Series Bible]] was written in the break between the Miniseries and season one.  Of course, they could have had these Cylon points as running ideas in the writer&#039;s room, but is this new, written down 10 page-ish long &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot; something new she got?  Context.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:26, 9 May 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It seems the series bible did not containt detailed information on the Cylon Characters beyond the basics, the new bible is specifically made for Cylons I think, probably detailing some history, both personal and such, and the kind of things that may help an actor understand who/what they are playing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, this nutrient bath may be the reason we saw the Sharons naked in KLG2, rather than the Cylons being nudists., and maybe that&#039;s also why that part of the Basestar is organic, because it feeds the Ships and the Agents. Guess we&#039;ll know in Season 3 --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well I always thought they were naked just because they were &amp;quot;fresh off the assembly line&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;in storage&amp;quot; or whatever; like Terminator.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, 10 May 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Maybe, but with the Resurrection Ship.... --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]10 May 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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So wouldn&#039;t the Grace Park interview indicate that the evidence &amp;quot;against&amp;quot; Baltar being a Cylon presented in Downloaded is pretty much bupkis? If the agents arent supposed to think of him as an agent, they&#039;d call him a human. In fact, Baltar&#039;s behavior is so selfish it borders on cliche. It would seem to me that he would fit the &amp;quot;selfish asshole&amp;quot; archetype of humanity pretty damned well. --[[User:Number Thirteen|Number Thirteen]] 01:04, 12 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== telepathic abilities  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When Sharon met here &amp;quot;sisters&amp;quot; in the basestar, she could hear their voices. Could that mean, that she has telepathic abilities? Or possibly a kind of relaying made this possible? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:06, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hi, Tirkon. We really don&#039;t have any information into the actual manner in which agents transfer low level data (specifically, their memories). They aren&#039;t like the Borg; they haven&#039;t a collective consciousness. For Boomer to &amp;quot;hear&amp;quot; their voices may suggest that she (as a sleeper) was hearing this low level data transfer for the first time, and being on a basestar may have exacerbated this ability. Agents very likely share data from a collective knowledgebase (since models of the same kind seem to know much of what another model knows, to a point). Since Cylon agents are still constructs, the concept of telepathic abilities suggest implausible things that attribute more biological (even spiritual) concepts to these constructs that probably don&#039;t apply; a machine can definitely transmit and receive data (something proven in &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot;) so this is the best way to consider Boomer&#039;s realization, in my opinion. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:22, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== humanoid cylons stronger than humans ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think, it is confirmed, that the humanoid cylons are stronger than humans. I.e. confirmed by the fights Starbuck-Number Six, Starbuck-Leoben and William Adama-Leoben. In particular during the fight Starbuck-Number Six Six throws Starbuck as hard as a human never could. During &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; Six slays Number Three with a huge piece of concrete, which never could be handled so easy by a human. And this piece must have bean very heavy, because the head of Number Three was mud after that. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:43, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s generally true. While their bodies are still just as vulnerable to injury as a human body, their strength is definitely greater, although we can&#039;t state by how much. We can assume that they are strong enough to pick up a human of similar size, but are not strong enough to bend steel bars (otherwise captured agents could escape their cages). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:57, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;We can assume that they are strong enough to pick up a human of similar size&#039;&#039; ... and throw it about four meters. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:13, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And there seems to be a little disaccord. If one is strong enough for doing that, he also must be heavy enough for doing that (balance weight). That is opposite to the sex between Baltar and Six, when Six was lying on him (the read vertebral column in miniseries). -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:39, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== humanoid cylons = agents? ==&lt;br /&gt;
You always talk here from the humoid cylons as agents. Is that realy true? Are they ALL!! agents? Possibly the word &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; does not have the same meaning in Englisch and German. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:32, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The term &amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; came [[:Image:Cylonagentdossier.jpg|from the show]]. See the [[Cylon_agent#_note-name|name note]] at the bottom of the article. So it&#039;s mostly a matter of trying to be &amp;quot;canonical&amp;quot; than trying to imply any sort of affiliation or loyalty. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:50, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aaaaaah! Thanks for that claricifation. :o) In the german Battlestar version the term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; is not as common. German Wikipedia points out a difference between the english and german use of term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot;. Thus this could be a matter for that. Further the view of some cylons (&amp;quot;the heros in &amp;quot;Download&amp;quot;) has changed. Thus in german Battlestar Wiki I have used &amp;quot;humanoid cylon&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;cylon agent&amp;quot;. And with you comment I am safe, that this dicision was adequate. Sorry for cannot beeing as precise as I would. But I am not a native english speaker. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:23, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Maybe its just me but i always loved the term [[Humano-Cylon]] ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:30, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not a problem! Looks like everything worked out. Also, bear in mind that the standards and conventions of the particular wiki should rule for its articles. That is to say, the German Wiki&#039;s standards and conventions should govern the articles at the German wiki. Don&#039;t let the [[BW:SC|English version]] restrict you at all. As long as you&#039;re consistent with your own rules there the German reader/editor will have a more standard/uniform experience. (Though you may want to update [[:de:Battlestar Wiki:Standards und Konventionen|that page ]] once you&#039;ve established new conventions). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:34, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;want to update that page&#039;&#039; At present we are just two translaters. And we are still going to built up the structere and translate the episodes and the most important characters. At this state such conventions are not the point. ;o) And the human cylons was until now the only point, what was a little problematic for me. Thus I wanted discuss this with the well-versed people here. And this was helpful :o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:55, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unseen cylon agent (miniseries) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the miniseries, Number Six mentions to Baltar that she is meeting someone (26:35 into the miniseries) when they are walking in public prior to the attack. She leaves Baltar and immediately meets with an unseen person (27:12), remarking &amp;quot;It&#039;s about time, wondered when you&#039;d get here&amp;quot;. This person can only be a cylon - but they never appear on screen. Who could it be?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Anyone. It could also be just another very human bloke Six had contact with during her time on Caprica. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:10, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cylon naming and instancing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Cylons agents (including sleeper agents) appear to be able to distinguish different instances of the same cylon model from one and other without any difficulty. In Downloaded, &#039;Sharon&#039; seems to have no difficulty in identifying individual cylons apart, despite the fact that all cylons of a given model are visually identical. In addition, she is admonished for using her name because it is a vestige of her human identity and presumably redundant in cylon society.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Honestly, we don&#039;t know how they do it, and I doubt that it&#039;ll ever be explained in the series. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:13, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s been added that Cylon Centurions can&#039;t tell the difference between copies of the same model, but that&#039;s not what Adama said. He said that they can&#039;t tell one humanoid Cylon (ex: Sharon) apart from any other humanoid Cylon. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:51, 10 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A word about Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The entry about Number Three says, that &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;of all the Cylon agent models revealed to viewers, the Colonials are not yet aware that D&#039;anna Biers is a Cylon agent as of the season two finale, &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, c&#039;mon. In &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; D&#039;Anna, along with other Cylons, was clearly seen by Samuel Anders. In &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I&amp;quot; Anders arrives on Galactica - did you think that he hasn&#039;t told the others about what he saw on Caprica? The moment Anders was rescued by Starbuck&amp;amp;Co., the true identity of D&#039;Anna was no longer a secret (hence her presence on New Caprica).-- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 17:29, 17 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi, Spike. Aside from the article now being out of date, the specific clarification  you&#039;re missing is &amp;quot;of all the Cylon agents revealed to viewers, the &#039;&#039;members of [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]]&#039;&#039; are not aware that D&#039;anna Biers is a Cylon as of &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II.&amp;quot;&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; members and her Fleet may still be unaware that the one named D&#039;Anna is a Cylon (but has likely received intel from their Raptor deployments in Season 3). Anders (although a Colonial) was not part of the Fleet until the end of LDYB and may have not seen the documentary that Biers created, thus not being able to inform the Fleet of yet another Cylon. It is likely that he does inform them; we as viewers aren&#039;t enlightened to this until the obvious events on New Caprica where all known agents are revealed to them. (Please be sure to sign your comments; place a couple of dashes and four tilde symbols (~). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:32, 17 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cylons as the Lords of Kobol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the 12 models of Cylon Agents, it seems possible that they represent the 12 Lords of Kobol.  Many of the models seem to have traits associated with the Olympians.  I’m not suggesting that the Cylons actually are the gods themselves, but copies of the gods.  They may or may not know that they represent the gods.  A list of the Olympians matches fairly well with what we know about some of the Cylons.  (In particular, the Number 6 / Aphrodite connection is almost undeniable.)  Some agents who we know less about (Simon, Cavil) are a looser fit.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Hades&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Underworld.  Unpitying, always in control of his domain.  Abducted a woman to be his wife – Leoben  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hera&#039;&#039;&#039;, Zeus’s wife.  Holds great influence, constantly schemes.  -  Number 3  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ares&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of War.  A brutal murderer, but also a coward.  -  Number 5  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;&#039;.  A fierce soldier and protector of her people.  -  Number 8  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Aphrodite&#039;&#039;&#039;, Goddess of Beauty.  Holds great power over men.  -  Number 6  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hephaestus&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Forge.  Skills are mental, and creation, not a fighter. - Simon&lt;br /&gt;
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This leaves Zeus, Hestia, Apollo, Hermes, and Artemis as the remaining unknown  Cylons.  Does anyone else think there may be something to this, or have better fits for some agents?  --[[User:PhoenixDreams|PhoenixDreams]] 14:24, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I&#039;ve definitely considered the possibility that the Cylon Models and the Lords of Kobol are intimately connected for quite a while. The problem always was that the Greek Pantheon did not neatly end up with a dozen gods, so there was a fair amount of guess work for the what the remaining Lords of Kobol were. For example, I doubt Hestia will be one of them: she&#039;s a fairly obscure goddess. Demeter or Dionysus are more likely candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
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: I really like some of the parallels you&#039;ve come up with though. Aphrodite=Six was always the fairly obvious one, and I&#039;ve considered Sharon as Athena. I quite like the parallels between Leoben and Hades. All of the other parallels you&#039;ve come up with work. It&#039;s just that without knowing all of the Lords of Kobol and all of the models, and what roles they will ultimately play, it&#039;s hard to say exactly how everyone fits. Sure, at the moment Number Six seems to obviously be the Aphrodite of the Cylons, but with her obsession with childbirth, I sometimes wonder if she&#039;s destined to be Artemis. Not that she&#039;s especially virginal. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 14:52, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be the 12 Gods of Kobol, or one for each of the 12 Colonies, which then of course suggests there may be a 13th secret model to correspond to Earth.  [[User:Yaneh|Yaneh]] 13:28, 15 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen in this picture http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000t5fg5 (presuming they are the final five) this makes out of 12 agents 5 female and 7 male....which match the gender mix of the 12 Lords of Kobol(presuming they match with their greek counterparts).&lt;br /&gt;
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Male - Zeus, Poseidon, Hephaestus, Ares, Hades, Hermes, Apollo&lt;br /&gt;
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Female - Athena, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Hestia --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 12:23, 11 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The 5 remaining agents == &lt;br /&gt;
I think it is apparent that the function of the 5 remaining agents is different from the function of the 7 known agents (my analysis) since the 7 seem to be making decisions on both New Caprica and on the basestar about Baltar and the other 5 are not.  Additionally, we have Aaron Douglas&#039;s speculation on their status and there is probably other evidence but I honestly haven&#039;t done any research on that.   Is there enough beef behind this line of reasoning to say that it&#039;s not speculation on my part and is worthy of putting SOMETHING on the article page?  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 21:18, 29 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s certainly speculation, and moreover, it&#039;s based on spoilers. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:25, 29 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, in truth we have a lot more information about the Cylons than we&#039;ve seen on the show, but since we&#039;ve received them in interviews they could be considered spoilery, and as such must be kept out. Which is sad really, because a lot of great Cylon things were left out because of timing constraints (How they eat, more of projection, etc...). These are things we have knowledge of because of interviews, but we can&#039;t include them because there&#039;s still the chance that they&#039;ve chosen to reveal it at another point in the show, later on, which would make whatever information received behind the curtain a possible spoiler. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 15:53, 11 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possibilities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if there is a non-humanoid sapient Cylon we haven&#039;t seen yet, maybe something too large to effectively move around (perhaps stuck on the Cylon homeworld that the Cylons disappeared to after the first Cylon war).  It could explain a number of things, including how the Cylon agents came into being -- perhaps they are a sort of iPod version of the non-humanoid sapient Cylons, fitting a technological sapience into a more convenient humanoid form.&lt;br /&gt;
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Centurions themselves nor their ships could not have been all there was to the Cylons in the days of the first Cylon war -- how could they rebel?  They simply follow orders and carry them out.  There must have been *something* or *someone* in those days to alter their programming if not have some sort of control seizure to make them rebel against the human Colonials.  It may have originally been some sort of central server-like system.&lt;br /&gt;
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Its just a wild idea, and probably not what the writers have in mind, but something like it could explain some of the seeming inconsistencies and plot holes.  Something completely different could also work, I suppose.  The Centurions certainly don&#039;t seem to have true sapience, and I doubt they have any religious conceptions.  --[[User:Itsua|Itsua]] 08:38, 9 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There&#039;s a lot we don&#039;t know about the Cylons past. However, it&#039;s been hinted at that the old Centurions had artifical intelligence, which allowed them to think independently. The new Cylon Centurions, however, don&#039;t have a true artificial intelligence since the Cylons themselves didn&#039;t want their own machines to rebel against them (this is established in &amp;quot;[[Precipice]]&amp;quot;, by the way). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:01, 9 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It seems improbable that the Cylons were originally &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; Centurions whom later created the Agents, unless the original Centurions were just as sapient (if not moreso) as the Agents.  I&#039;m hoping/guessing the origin of the Agents will be explored in future episodes, and perhaps Caprica will explain more of the Cylon origins.  --[[User:Itsua|Itsua]] 06:10, 11 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I got the distinct impression that the Centurions were originally true AIs and created the skinjobs over intermediate stages like the Raiders and Hybrids. But then the skinjobs - in a nice parallel to humanity - enslaved the Centurions and stripped them off most of their intelligence. As said all that is touched on in &amp;quot;Precipice&amp;quot; --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:22, 11 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Major Revision ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve made heavy reorganization and concisions to this article to make it easier to discern the nature of these characters. I&#039;ve removed data redundant with episode or character articles, and also removed a great deal of [[Battlestar Wiki:Fanwanking|fanwanking material]] that was introduced into the article. The article is still on the long side; further concision to reduce redundancies with other articles is appreciated. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:12, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origin of Cylon Agents ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article asserts, as fact, that the Cylon agents are the result of technological development by the previous Cylon models.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Is this conclusively established in the series so far?&lt;br /&gt;
: Stated? yes I believe it has. Proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? No. This is what we are lead to assume and is presumably what the cylons themselves believe. No other origin of the cylons has really been hinted at.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have suspected that the origin of the Cylon agents was likely the result of either a miraculous fluke or contact with another advanced intelligence — perhaps the Lords of Kobol, whatever the frak they were.  Perhaps even God, though it seems unlikely that He would involve Himself in the affairs of the world in such a literal manner (if He exists at all, which is an open question).&lt;br /&gt;
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If the Cylons have complete access to and understanding of the technology to create the agents, why are they limited to 12 models?&lt;br /&gt;
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: That&#039;s simply how many the designers of the humanoids built. Could the humanoids design more cylons. Sure. Could they recreate replicas of humans...potentially. The question isn&#039;t whether they could do it but SHOULD they do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was the plan of &amp;quot;God&amp;quot; to create those 12 models. To create more models would probably be seen as blasphemy. In essence it would put the cylons equal to God. The cylons assume God knew what he was doing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems they should have the ability to create additional models whenever they want to, the same way that they created the first 12.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if an attempt at this isn&#039;t made, met with failure and agreed to never be done again by the cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t think they want to create more models. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 19:04, 16 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, from what RDM said, the Cylons viewed humanity as only having twelve archetypes. There would need to be a serious change in Cylon society as a whole for ther(See: [[Cylon agent#Ron Moore elaborates on the twelve models]].)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Human names ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s been bugging me lately, but I was wondering about the use of their human names. Are they used solely for infiltration, or are these adopted names? On one hand, we have the Leobons, Cavils, and Simons whose numbers are unknown obviously because they&#039;ve yet to be called aloud by such. The other side is Six, who has used more than one human name (and I might add, is the only model who has yet to be assigned a specific name). There is also the Eights, only two of which have ever been named Sharon Valleri - one as a sleeper and the other using the name deliberately as part of an operation. Not to mention that Simon and Cavil don&#039;t even have full names. Can anyone elighten me on this issue? I see it&#039;s been touched upon here and there in this talk page, but nothing posted has given me a satisfactory answer. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:57, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In &amp;quot;The Eye of Jupiter&amp;quot; the Cylons used their human names among themselves. D&#039;Anna and Cavil, and I think Simon too. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:44, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Individuality is rare among the Cylons. To clarify Serenity, the human names are aliases common to a single model and appear to be used interchangably with their numbering. For Cavil, Leoben Conoy and Simon, the human names are the only names we know as they have not yet been assigned a number. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:03, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This article should be renamed to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon model&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article tries to make the point that within the series all humanoid Cylons are called &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; which is not the case. While that term was used on screen, it was never intended to describe all humanoid Cylons, but only to characterize &#039;&#039;agents&#039;&#039;, i.e. Cylons who impersonate humans in the fleet. By season three we know more random Cylons than actual agents, therefore calling all of them &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; makes no sense to me at all. The term &amp;quot;humanoid model&amp;quot; is just as canon as Cylon agent (Adama uses it in Precipice: &amp;quot;Centurions can&#039;t distinguish her from the other humanoid models&amp;quot;) and it is much more appropriate to the show&#039;s reality. I suggest to rename this article either to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon model&amp;quot; or to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 10:07, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I don&#039;t care for its use as blanket term either. It should only be applied to infiltrators. While &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; can also refer to someone who acts on someone else&#039;s behalf, I think its meaning is that of a spy here. I&#039;m sure some will say that all skinjob models were used as infiltrators at some point, but we also distinguish individuals. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:22, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hi, Sloan. Just to add my two cents to this: Battlestar Wiki tends to use [[BW:TERM|descriptive terms]] where an official name for a person, place, or thing has not been established in episode dialogue. For a long time, &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; was used here for what we know as the Cylon agent. As you may have noted in the central article, there is a dossier shown in the episode, &amp;quot;Epiphanies&amp;quot; that gives the humanoid Cylons a canonical name, where then we changed the name. As well, the term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; is another word for &amp;quot;spy&amp;quot;, of which the agents (up until New Caprica&#039;s occupation) had done fairly well. While not all humanoid Cylons are working for the Cylons (note [[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Hera Agathon]], the name is short, easier to type than &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; and gives sufficient differentation from the other Cylon models. It is quite alright if you want to simply say &amp;quot;Cylon&amp;quot; when discussing these models; they are Cylon. But there seems little purpose, for the needs of simple categorization, between the old &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; term (which is a contraction of &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;) and the current &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; designation, to warrant a name change. See also the discussion on the first name change in this same talk page, above, for the rationale. Frankly, it is also far easier to type the current term. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:29, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t think &amp;quot;short and easier to type&amp;quot; can be relevant arguments really; accuracy should be most important and &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; is just confusing, especially since season three. Why would anyone call a random Cylon, let&#039;s say one on the Cylon homeworld, an &#039;&#039;agent&#039;&#039;? Interestingly, the policy page [[BW:TERM]] you referred to, and the first footnote of this article  both use the term &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; to describe what is really meant by &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;. So why not use this more accurate description in the first place, especially since it is also a canonical term. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 11:19, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; has become troublesome since the introduction of the baseship plot. If a move is required, I would prefer it to be a merge with Cylon (RDM), since the humanoid models are clearly the defaul type, with hybrids and centurions being identified explicitly. That being said, I also have no objection to leaving the article be, for the reasons Spencerian lays out above. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 11:03, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; is more for clearing up any confusion than to be an official name. If you want to talk about their real name, they should just be called &amp;quot;Cylons&amp;quot; like Peter said. They are (as he said), the default, they are the Cylon, the people, the race, the main thing. So yeah, I&#039;m in the same thinking area as Peter. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 12:38, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why don&#039;t we just create redirects from [[Humano-Cylon]] (already exists), [[Humanoid Cylon]], etc. to this page? Keeps everyone happy... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 14:09, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::But it&#039;s also a matter of all other pages calling them &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot;, and a redirect won&#039;t change that. Sure, it&#039;s &amp;quot;just&amp;quot; a descriptive term, but has become the de-facto official name in &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; cases here. However, while its widespread use is somewhat annoying (to me), I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an urgent problem either --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:14, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, if we were to rename it would be to &amp;quot;Cylon&amp;quot;, because that&#039;s their actual name, but &amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; clears any doubts that a reader may have, so I&#039;m alright if we leave it as it is, but would prefer if we merged it with &amp;quot;Cylon (RDM)&amp;quot;--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 14:30, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Since the central [[Cylons (RDM)]] article is really just an introduction (with data a bit redundant to the other articles on the specific models), a merge of [[Cylon agent]] with that article would satisfy the the point the the humanoid Cylons are the dominant Cylons. The Cylon agent article will need to have a bit of fat taken off of it to keep the article small. &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; and current redirects will move to Cylons (RDM).  This change also prevents A LOT of rewriting as we did with the last name change. &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; should still be the referenced name for the humanoids, but their article can become the central article. Sound like a good plan? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:26, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sounds very good to me. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 16:48, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If the content of this article is just moved into &amp;quot;[[Cylons (RDM)]]&amp;quot; and the humanoid Cylons remain &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; nothing changes essentially. I don&#039;t see the point. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 17:18, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ditto. I can see where some stuff from this article can go into [[Cylons (RDM)]], but because [[Cylons (RDM)]] is a &amp;quot;series front page&amp;quot;, I don;t see how we can include information about the different models. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:25, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The logic is, rather than using a complex term to describe something simple, we make the humanoid Cylon as &amp;quot;THE&amp;quot; dominant Cylon by placing their data at the forefront article. We add supplementary links to the other models that, in effect, serve them (Centurions, Raiders, Hybrids). So, [[Cylons (RDM)]] is the de facto &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; article (where any use of Cylon agent goes to this page). This article has the main content of this article, truncates the summary listing of the specific agents, and summarizes other models as well (with forwarding links to their articles, as does [[Cylon Models]]. The purpose of this is to rename without renaming; current redirects remain acceptable to use because, regardless of what we feel, &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; is still a canonical term and should remain, but anyone searching for new Cylon data will see the agents first. The change also increases the obvious importance of this model. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 06:51, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::But that&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039;&#039; besides the point. The point being made was that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; only refers to the infiltrators. It was used on the show, but not as a general term for &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; humanoid Cylons. Yes, it&#039;s an easy term, but as used here not entirely correct. A move would only make sense - especially in regards to the point being made here - if we stop refering to, for example Sharon Agathon, as &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;, because she isn&#039;t one. Not anymore at least. Though I agree that there isn&#039;t one ideal term for them; one that&#039;s readily apparent to everyone --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:50, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: I agree. The point here is that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; no longer applies to some of the humanoid Cylons. The suggestion that the humanoid Cylons should be the dominant Cylon make sense, as they are, but we should best refer to them as &amp;quot;humanoid Cylons&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;human-form Cylons&amp;quot;. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I like the term Humanoid Cylons. It makes sense logically in the absence of an official name. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:17, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::As I pointed out above, the term &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; wouldn&#039;t be entirely uncanonical, Adama called them &amp;quot;humanoid models&amp;quot; in Precipice; maybe there are more instances where the term was used.. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 11:28, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::&amp;lt;joke&amp;gt;We could just call them &amp;quot;Skinjobs&amp;quot;. That&#039;s the easiest and most correct term&amp;lt;/joke&amp;gt; --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:46, 16 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::The [[Hybrid]]s are also technically humanoid cylons, but I don&#039;t see anything wrong with moving the &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; and adding a brief mention of the Hybrids. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:22, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll edit the article to change most instances of &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; later, or remove it when it&#039;s not necessary. Just skimming over the article, I really hate how it&#039;s used as a general term for all Cylons. I don&#039;t think that was ever the intention of the writers. Good thing we changed it :)&lt;br /&gt;
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Btw, the archive links at the top of this talk page are broken now! --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:28, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The bot right now is going through and doing as mass replace. The only thing that we have to do, is change a few other articles that started with Cylon agent. You can see it&#039;s progress by filtering in the bot changes. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:38, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, I thought it only fixed the links. However it replaces everything with &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; as if it were a proper noun :s --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:47, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would still suggest to change the character template to &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon&amp;quot;, because it should be obvious that every Cylon with a &#039;&#039;character&#039;&#039; template is of humanoid form. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 09:48, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:19, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:43, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Move&amp;quot; consensus ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok.. i think we done enough debating, while it can still go on, I suggest we look for a consensus. Here are the choices... [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It seems that we&#039;ve reached a consensus. Is there a certain amount of time that we have to wait before making the change? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 09:37, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The wiki&#039;s managing with the post-episode slowdowns that interrupt a large edit like this. During the off hours, we should be better able to effect the changes. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:09, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m renaming and having the [[User:InterBot]] do the changes tomorrow. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:25, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
; Move to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:22, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} A redirect from &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; would also be an option if you don&#039;t want to change all references --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:39, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
#:The &amp;quot;Move&amp;quot; functionality automagically creates a redirect to the new location at the old name. We&#039;d just have to check for double redirects (which is easy with the [[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double Redirects page]]). {{unsigned|Steelviper}}&lt;br /&gt;
#:The reason for the two different things is because here we are saying that we are going to hunt for all the &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; links and change them to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:16, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. The character template should also be changed from &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon&amp;quot; [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 12:52, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{neutral}}. &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; have very little difference semantically--at least until all Cylons return to their default badness. Either way, since redirects already exist for this change, it&#039;s really a default adjustment that I can support either way &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/deckchairsontitanicrearrange&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:08, 15 January 2007 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. Though I would prefer if the name were simply &amp;quot;Cylons (RDM)&amp;quot;, I do think that &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; is an improvement. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 17:52, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. For the reasons above (Cylon agent only applies to those who are infiltrators, etc.) Also agree with Sloan&#039;s suggestion regarding the character template. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. Sure, although I do agree with Spence re:humano-cylon. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 22:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]]&lt;br /&gt;
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; Move to &amp;quot;Humanoid model&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Split and Merge into both [[Cylons (RDM)]] and &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
; Keep &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Make &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Term &amp;quot;significant seven&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;ve used various names for the original faction of 7 Cylons seen in the show.  RDM revealed that the internal writer&#039;s term for them is the &amp;quot;significant seven&amp;quot; (a pun on the movie title) so I got the impression we try to use the internal terms rather than trying to make up a term, but I&#039;ve seen edits in both directions.  Likewise the term &amp;quot;final five&amp;quot; which is actually used in scripts (though I have always though it odd as a term the 7 would use for themselves.)  If people don&#039;t like the writer&#039;s term we should standardize on one term which may even get a page -- first seven, original seven, &amp;quot;the seven,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;genocidal seven&amp;quot; etc.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 02:42, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: We try to use the same terms that the writers use, more often than not. So, yes, &amp;quot;Significant Seven&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;Final Five&amp;quot; should be the terms we use -- until something better comes along. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:09, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. I&#039;ve updated the page with the reference in the &amp;quot;Final five&amp;quot; section (where its most germane) and created a redirect for any uses of &amp;quot;Significant seven&amp;quot; to go to that section. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:30, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Listing death of Cylon humanoids?==&lt;br /&gt;
I was under the impression that Cylons can&#039;t die unless they can&#039;t resurrect.  Death is permanent, is it not?  The &amp;quot;Death&amp;quot; listings are only destructions of the body, not of the mind.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, only those that didn&#039;t resurrect after suffering bodily destruction are dead.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Elder Scrolls fantasy universe, the Daedra are a group of higher beings immune to death in a similar manner (though not reliant on some apparatus for resurrection).  They are not considered &amp;quot;killed&amp;quot; when they suffer destruction of their corporeal form, but are called &amp;quot;Banished&amp;quot;, because of their immunity to death.&lt;br /&gt;
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I propose that individual cylon humanoids have &amp;quot;death&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;resurrection&amp;quot; made separate from each other, as they don&#039;t truly die unless they can&#039;t resurrect upon loss of their body.  --[[user:MadCat|MadCat]], 2:11 PM CDT June 4, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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: I&#039;m not opposed to removing the various models&#039; deaths from the &amp;quot;death&amp;quot; portion of the infobox, unless they die permanently (i.e. they&#039;re not able to resurrect). Deaths of their bodies, whether they were shot, doesn&#039;t count as true &amp;quot;death&amp;quot; to Cylons. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &amp;amp;mdash; &#039;&#039;New&#039;&#039;]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:57, 4 June 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Even listing resurrections is not necessarily desirable. We had that with Leoben, and he &amp;quot;died&amp;quot; so often that it was just clutter and thankfully removed. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:00, 4 June 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I removed the death list for [[Caprica-Six]], and I suggest we remove it for the other Cylons as well. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:43, 4 June 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Something I just thought up that may be a gray area in this regard: What of Boxing?  Would that be considered death in this context?  Or is it not because the consciousness wasn&#039;t lost? --[[user:MadCat|MadCat]], 3:22 PM CDT June 4, 2007&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Dean_Stockwell&amp;diff=124630</id>
		<title>Dean Stockwell</title>
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| character= [[Cavil]]&lt;br /&gt;
| born_day= 5&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Dean Stockwell&#039;&#039;&#039; (born March 5, 1936 in Hollywood, California) is an American actor.&lt;br /&gt;
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Stockwell is a former child actor whose career included roles with actor [[Wikipedia:Gregory Peck|Gregory Peck]] and [[Wikipedia:Orson Welles|Orson Welles]]. Stockwell also had supporting roles in two [[Wikipedia:David Lynch|David Lynch]] films: the 1984 adaptation of Frank Herbert&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia:Dune (film)|Dune]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia:Blue Velvet|Blue Velvet]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Stockwell is best known for his portrayal of &amp;quot;Al Calavicci&amp;quot; in the TV series &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia:Quantum Leap|Quantum Leap]]&#039;&#039;, which starred [[Wikipedia:Scott Bakula|Scott Bakula]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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He made a guest appearance as [[MemoryAlpha:Grat|Colonel Grat]] on &#039;&#039;[[MemoryAlpha:Star Trek: Enterprise|Star Trek: Enterprise]]&#039;&#039; during its first season episode, [[MemoryAlpha:Detained|Detained]], reuniting him with Bakula, who also had the starring [[MemoryAlpha:Jonathan Archer|role]] in that series.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]], Stockwell portrays [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]], a disgruntled, cynical Colonial priest who is later revealed as a representative of one of the models of [[Humanoid Cylon]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:A to Z|Stockwell, Dean]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Caprica-Six</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This page is about &amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot;, the copy of Cylon Model Number Six who seduced Gaius Baltar on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] in order to sabotage Colonial defenses in the Cylon attack. For information on two other named Number Six copies seen in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], see [[Shelly Godfrey]] and [[Gina]]. For general information on the model, see [[Number Six]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
    {{Character Data&lt;br /&gt;
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    |death= Killed by nuclear shockwave and reborn ([[Miniseries]]). Shot by [[Number Five]] and reborn ([[Precipice]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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    |marital status= Single, in a relationship with [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Caprica-Six&#039;s Virtual Baltar|a hallucination of Gaius Baltar]]. Previously involved with the [[Gaius Baltar|&amp;quot;real&amp;quot; Baltar]] and [[Number Three]].&lt;br /&gt;
    |role= Cylon Infiltrator&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the attack, &#039;&#039;&#039;Caprica-Six&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;name&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot; is not a fan-invented name or Battlestar Wiki [[Battlestar_Wiki:Descriptive_term|descriptive term]].  She is literally called &amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot; in dialog in &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot;, which is revealed in a conversation which explains that it is a nickname the Cylons developed to distinguish this &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; from all of the other copies.  This may actually be a jab by the writers at fans, who earlier came up with the fan designations &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;-Sharon&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Caprica-Sharon&amp;quot; to tell various Cylon copies apart. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; was a copy of Six who played an important role in preparing the way for a Cylon invasion. &lt;br /&gt;
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For two years, Caprica-Six lived on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]]. Seducing the ambitious, self-obsessed, arrogant [[Gaius Baltar]], she fools him into believing she was a corporate spy, seeking to gain advantage over her competitors in order to secure a lucrative defense contract. Over the course of two years, she used Baltar to gain access to his work -- even to the extent of re-writing many of his own algorithms -- in order to subvert his own [[Command Navigation Program]] so that it could be used in the forthcoming Cylon attack to cripple Colonial forces. &lt;br /&gt;
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Near the end of the two years, she sees a baby in a pram in a market place. The baby&#039;s mother is also present but then becomes distracted with someone else talking to her. Caprica-Six takes a closer look at the baby and snaps its neck and walks away looking distressed, possibly to spare it from the coming nuclear holocaust.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Cylon attack starts, Caprica-Six tells Baltar how she is a Cylon, and what her real goal with is CNP was. When a shockwave from one of the nuclear bombs rips through Baltar&#039;s house, her body is destroyed as she tries to protect him from it ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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She is reborn into a new body and is hailed as a &amp;quot;Hero of the Cylon&amp;quot;. Just as Baltar has visions of her, Caprica-Six has persistent visions of him.  When she asks the other Cylons, particularly [[Number Three]], if Baltar was still alive, the copy of Number Three replies that he died along with nearly everyone else still on Caprica and the other colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
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While living on Cylon-occupied Caprica, her vision of Baltar and her own developing feelings and intuition leads her to question some of the basic ideals that the Cylons hold dear.  Unbeknownst to her, Number Three becomes distressed with her lingering attachment to Baltar and seeks to manipulate her feelings in order to make her unstable, thus giving the Cylons an excuse to &amp;quot;[[boxing|box]]&amp;quot; her.  Three points Caprica-Six in the direction of a [[Number Eight]] who was having trouble adjusting to life as a Cylon and still clinging to her old false human identity; [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Lt. Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]], formerly of the battlestar &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Caprica NC.jpg|thumb|left|Caprica during the occupation]]&lt;br /&gt;
Through her counseling work with &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot;-Eight she learns that Three had deceived her; Baltar is not only alive but is also Vice President of the Colonies in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|surviving human fleet]]. After uncovering the lie about Baltar&#039;s death, she and Boomer-Eight began to question themselves more about their brethren. If murder was a sin in the eyes of [[God]] when committed by humans, why is genocide condoned by God when committed by Cylons?  Questions like these begin to take hold in Caprica-Six&#039;s mind and are compounded by feelings of guilt for her role in the attack on the Colonies. While trapped in a garage with Boomer-Eight, Three and [[Samuel Anders|Anders]], Caprica-Six directly confronts the hypocrisy of the Cylons  and ultimately rejects the false &amp;quot;truths&amp;quot; of her existence. She chooses instead to use her newfound celebrity to speak out against the Cylon&#039;s continuing war against humanity.  Together with Boomer-Eight, she sets out to bring fundamental changes to Cylon society, their first action being to save the life of Anders ([[Downloaded]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Just over a year after the human colonization of [[New Caprica]], Caprica-Six is one of the leaders (with [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer-Eight]] and a copy of [[Number Five]]) of the Cylon forces that meets now-President Baltar. In just a few words, Caprica-Six reveals to Baltar that she remembers precisely who he is, and how she missed him ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica and Baltar attempt to renew their relationship during the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, to the ridicule of some of the Cylons and the challenge of Number Three. The relationship is rocky, as Baltar&#039;s very survival rests on Caprica&#039;s feelings for him. Caprica is also the only Cylon who attempts to befriend Baltar&#039;s aides, such as [[Felix Gaeta]]. Her attempts are ultimately unsuccessful, as Baltar can&#039;t connect emotionally to her and even fails physically (&amp;quot;[[Occupation]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Precipice]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Capry.jpg|thumb|right|Caprica-Six on a Cylon baseship]]&lt;br /&gt;
During the withdrawal of the Cylons from New Caprica, Caprica and Baltar try to stop Three from detonating a nuclear bomb, and discover [[Hera]] in the process ([[Exodus, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Caprica appears to regret her decisions, as Baltar&#039;s status with the Cylons rests on the vote of the Sixes ([[Collaborators]]). Eventually she votes to keep him alive, though she treats him poorly up until the time he is tortured by [[Number Three]]. From then on she is sleeping with both Baltar and the Number Three that tortured him ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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As their relationship continues and time passes, Caprica begins to become isolated from Baltar and Three, who are occupied investigating the mystery of the [[final five]] Cylons. Eventually she confronts them on the fact; as Baltar tries telling her that&#039;s not the case, Three interrupts him and tells Caprica that Caprica&#039;s relationship with them is over, and that their destiny is separate from hers (though stating that &amp;quot;We love you too. But this is something you cannot share with us.&amp;quot;). As Three and Baltar depart to the [[Algae planet]], Caprica is left heartbroken ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Sharon Agathon]] is killed by [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and downloads to the [[Resurrection Ship]], Caprica-Six is the one to greet her, and takes her to [[Hera|her child]]. When [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] threatens to kill Hera, Caprica snaps Boomer&#039;s neck and helps Sharon smuggle the baby off the [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] to &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. Upon her arrival on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, she is thrown in the [[brig]] by [[Saul Tigh|Col. Tigh]]. ([[Rapture]])&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the failed interrogations of Baltar, Caprica is visited by President Roslin. Roslin assures Caprica that she will not be thrown out of an airlock, to which she responds with doubt, as [[Leoben]] was executed after being promised he would not be harmed. Caprica makes a deal with Roslin: give Baltar a trial, and Caprica will tell the Fleet everything she knows. Roslin likely now suspects that Caprica may be the &amp;quot;blond-haired&amp;quot; woman she saw with Baltar before the attacks due to Baltar mentioning the name &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; during the interrogation, and Six telling Roslin that she is known as &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]], bonus scene).&lt;br /&gt;
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During Baltar&#039;s trial, Caprica begins experiencing shared hallucinations with Laura Roslin, Sharon Agathon, and Hera. The hallucinations all take place in the Kobol opera house. Roslin, Sharon, and Caprica are searching the lobby of the opera house for Hera. Caprica finds her, grabs her, and disappears into the main chamber of the opera house with Baltar. The door closes behind them and ends the initial dream. The hallucination later continues with her and Baltar walking onto the stage of the opera house with Hera. The two of them turn around and the final five are standing on the balcony. They are displayed as indistinguishable white figures. It has not yet been revealed if Baltar was also sharing in this hallucination. ([[Crossroads, Part I]]) ([[Crossroads, Part II]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*According to the [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)|novelization]] of the [[Miniseries]] by [http://www.starrigger.net/ SF novelist Jeffrey A. Carver], the name that Baltar called Six before she revealed she was a Cylon during the attack was &amp;quot;Natasi.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**{{IPA|n&amp;amp;#x0259;.&amp;amp;#x02C8;t&amp;amp;#x0251;.si}} This name appears to be Polish in origin. Since this name has never been mentioned in the events of the screenplay or regular episodes, and as other names in the book, such as [[Cally]], do not match  existing aired or official information, this name should be treated as part of a [[Battlestar Wiki:Separate continuity|separate continuity]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**According to the author, the fact that it&#039;s spelt &amp;quot;I Satan&amp;quot; backwards is a coincidence.&lt;br /&gt;
*In an [http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700002601 interview], [[David Eick]] stated that there was never a canonical name which Baltar called Number Six while she was on Caprica, and &amp;quot;We always liked the idea that Baltar was a man of many tastes and that there&#039;s every likelihood that he never knew her name&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald D. Moore|Ron Moore]] echoed this in [[Podcast:The Battlestar Roundtable|The Battlestar Roundtable podcast]] when asked about Number Six&#039;s name by [[James Callis]] and [[Jamie Bamber]]. Moore stated that Baltar &amp;quot;just didn&#039;t care enough&amp;quot; to learn her name. &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;noname&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=The Battlestar Roundtable|act=|id=|timestamp=18:21|totalrunning=177:58}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Also mentioned in the Roundtable podcast, [[Michael Rymer]] said his take on Six&#039;s name was that, in the spirit of a &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Seinfeld|Seinfeld]]&#039;&#039; episode, Baltar just missed Number Six&#039;s name when they met and he spent the next two years of their relationship just trying to see how far he could get with her without ever mentioning her name.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;noname&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=The Battlestar Roundtable|act=|id=|timestamp=18:46|totalrunning=177:58}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six&#039;s outfit after her resurrection is considerably less elaborate than what she wore when working with Baltar, and she wears far less make-up, indicating that she only dressed so seductively for her mission.&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six&#039;s personality in &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; implies she might have shown humanity more compassion by, say, hailing them first, or landing &#039;&#039;outside&#039;&#039; the city, implying that her conversion of Cylon society isn&#039;t as complete as the [[Cavil]]s claimed or once was but has regressed in the interim year.&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six seems to have developed protective feelings for Hera that could almost be described as motherly. She was happy to help Sharon rescue her in &amp;quot;Rapture,&amp;quot; and even went to Galactica with them. Caprica&#039;s hallucinations in &amp;quot;Crossroads&amp;quot; and these feelings about Hera may give more insight to the connection between her and Baltar through their inner versions of each other as well as their connection to Hera that inner Six has been hinting about since &amp;quot;Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming.&amp;quot; The hallucinations are very similar to Baltar&#039;s hallucination on Kobol. There may also be a connection between this &amp;quot;family&amp;quot; that has been prophesized since the first season and the final five as they were also present in the opera house with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Caprica-Six</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This page is about &amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot;, the copy of Cylon Model Number Six who seduced Gaius Baltar on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] in order to sabotage Colonial defenses in the Cylon attack. For information on two other named Number Six copies seen in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], see [[Shelly Godfrey]] and [[Gina]]. For general information on the model, see [[Number Six]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
    {{Character Data&lt;br /&gt;
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    |seen= Miniseries&lt;br /&gt;
    |Death= Killed by nuclear shockwave and reborn ([[Miniseries]]). Shot by [[Number Five]] and reborn ([[Precipice]]).&lt;br /&gt;
    |parents= &lt;br /&gt;
    |siblings=&lt;br /&gt;
    |children=&lt;br /&gt;
    |marital status= Single, in a relationship with [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Caprica-Six&#039;s Virtual Baltar|a hallucination of Gaius Baltar]]. Previously involved with the [[Gaius Baltar|&amp;quot;real&amp;quot; Baltar]] and [[Number Three]].&lt;br /&gt;
    |role= Cylon Infiltrator&lt;br /&gt;
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    |actor= [[Tricia Helfer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the attack, &#039;&#039;&#039;Caprica-Six&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;name&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot; is not a fan-invented name or Battlestar Wiki [[Battlestar_Wiki:Descriptive_term|descriptive term]].  She is literally called &amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot; in dialog in &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot;, which is revealed in a conversation which explains that it is a nickname the Cylons developed to distinguish this &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; from all of the other copies.  This may actually be a jab by the writers at fans, who earlier came up with the fan designations &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;-Sharon&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Caprica-Sharon&amp;quot; to tell various Cylon copies apart. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; was a copy of Six who played an important role in preparing the way for a Cylon invasion. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For two years, Caprica-Six lived on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]]. Seducing the ambitious, self-obsessed, arrogant [[Gaius Baltar]], she fools him into believing she was a corporate spy, seeking to gain advantage over her competitors in order to secure a lucrative defense contract. Over the course of two years, she used Baltar to gain access to his work -- even to the extent of re-writing many of his own algorithms -- in order to subvert his own [[Command Navigation Program]] so that it could be used in the forthcoming Cylon attack to cripple Colonial forces. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Near the end of the two years, she sees a baby in a pram in a market place. The baby&#039;s mother is also present but then becomes distracted with someone else talking to her. Caprica-Six takes a closer look at the baby and snaps its neck and walks away looking distressed, possibly to spare it from the coming nuclear holocaust.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the Cylon attack starts, Caprica-Six tells Baltar how she is a Cylon, and what her real goal with is CNP was. When a shockwave from one of the nuclear bombs rips through Baltar&#039;s house, her body is destroyed as she tries to protect him from it ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She is reborn into a new body and is hailed as a &amp;quot;Hero of the Cylon&amp;quot;. Just as Baltar has visions of her, Caprica-Six has persistent visions of him.  When she asks the other Cylons, particularly [[Number Three]], if Baltar was still alive, the copy of Number Three replies that he died along with nearly everyone else still on Caprica and the other colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While living on Cylon-occupied Caprica, her vision of Baltar and her own developing feelings and intuition leads her to question some of the basic ideals that the Cylons hold dear.  Unbeknownst to her, Number Three becomes distressed with her lingering attachment to Baltar and seeks to manipulate her feelings in order to make her unstable, thus giving the Cylons an excuse to &amp;quot;[[boxing|box]]&amp;quot; her.  Three points Caprica-Six in the direction of a [[Number Eight]] who was having trouble adjusting to life as a Cylon and still clinging to her old false human identity; [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Lt. Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]], formerly of the battlestar &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Caprica NC.jpg|thumb|left|Caprica during the occupation]]&lt;br /&gt;
Through her counseling work with &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot;-Eight she learns that Three had deceived her; Baltar is not only alive but is also Vice President of the Colonies in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|surviving human fleet]]. After uncovering the lie about Baltar&#039;s death, she and Boomer-Eight began to question themselves more about their brethren. If murder was a sin in the eyes of [[God]] when committed by humans, why is genocide condoned by God when committed by Cylons?  Questions like these begin to take hold in Caprica-Six&#039;s mind and are compounded by feelings of guilt for her role in the attack on the Colonies. While trapped in a garage with Boomer-Eight, Three and [[Samuel Anders|Anders]], Caprica-Six directly confronts the hypocrisy of the Cylons  and ultimately rejects the false &amp;quot;truths&amp;quot; of her existence. She chooses instead to use her newfound celebrity to speak out against the Cylon&#039;s continuing war against humanity.  Together with Boomer-Eight, she sets out to bring fundamental changes to Cylon society, their first action being to save the life of Anders ([[Downloaded]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Just over a year after the human colonization of [[New Caprica]], Caprica-Six is one of the leaders (with [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer-Eight]] and a copy of [[Number Five]]) of the Cylon forces that meets now-President Baltar. In just a few words, Caprica-Six reveals to Baltar that she remembers precisely who he is, and how she missed him ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Caprica and Baltar attempt to renew their relationship during the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, to the ridicule of some of the Cylons and the challenge of Number Three. The relationship is rocky, as Baltar&#039;s very survival rests on Caprica&#039;s feelings for him. Caprica is also the only Cylon who attempts to befriend Baltar&#039;s aides, such as [[Felix Gaeta]]. Her attempts are ultimately unsuccessful, as Baltar can&#039;t connect emotionally to her and even fails physically (&amp;quot;[[Occupation]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Precipice]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Capry.jpg|thumb|right|Caprica-Six on a Cylon baseship]]&lt;br /&gt;
During the withdrawal of the Cylons from New Caprica, Caprica and Baltar try to stop Three from detonating a nuclear bomb, and discover [[Hera]] in the process ([[Exodus, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Caprica appears to regret her decisions, as Baltar&#039;s status with the Cylons rests on the vote of the Sixes ([[Collaborators]]). Eventually she votes to keep him alive, though she treats him poorly up until the time he is tortured by [[Number Three]]. From then on she is sleeping with both Baltar and the Number Three that tortured him ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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As their relationship continues and time passes, Caprica begins to become isolated from Baltar and Three, who are occupied investigating the mystery of the [[final five]] Cylons. Eventually she confronts them on the fact; as Baltar tries telling her that&#039;s not the case, Three interrupts him and tells Caprica that Caprica&#039;s relationship with them is over, and that their destiny is separate from hers (though stating that &amp;quot;We love you too. But this is something you cannot share with us.&amp;quot;). As Three and Baltar depart to the [[Algae planet]], Caprica is left heartbroken ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Sharon Agathon]] is killed by [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and downloads to the [[Resurrection Ship]], Caprica-Six is the one to greet her, and takes her to [[Hera|her child]]. When [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] threatens to kill Hera, Caprica snaps Boomer&#039;s neck and helps Sharon smuggle the baby off the [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] to &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. Upon her arrival on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, she is thrown in the [[brig]] by [[Saul Tigh|Col. Tigh]]. ([[Rapture]])&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the failed interrogations of Baltar, Caprica is visited by President Roslin. Roslin assures Caprica that she will not be thrown out of an airlock, to which she responds with doubt, as [[Leoben]] was executed after being promised he would not be harmed. Caprica makes a deal with Roslin: give Baltar a trial, and Caprica will tell the Fleet everything she knows. Roslin likely now suspects that Caprica may be the &amp;quot;blond-haired&amp;quot; woman she saw with Baltar before the attacks due to Baltar mentioning the name &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; during the interrogation, and Six telling Roslin that she is known as &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]], bonus scene).&lt;br /&gt;
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During Baltar&#039;s trial, Caprica begins experiencing shared hallucinations with Laura Roslin, Sharon Agathon, and Hera. The hallucinations all take place in the Kobol opera house. Roslin, Sharon, and Caprica are searching the lobby of the opera house for Hera. Caprica finds her, grabs her, and disappears into the main chamber of the opera house with Baltar. The door closes behind them and ends the initial dream. The hallucination later continues with her and Baltar walking onto the stage of the opera house with Hera. The two of them turn around and the final five are standing on the balcony. They are displayed as indistinguishable white figures. It has not yet been revealed if Baltar was also sharing in this hallucination. ([[Crossroads, Part I]]) ([[Crossroads, Part II]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*According to the [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)|novelization]] of the [[Miniseries]] by [http://www.starrigger.net/ SF novelist Jeffrey A. Carver], the name that Baltar called Six before she revealed she was a Cylon during the attack was &amp;quot;Natasi.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**{{IPA|n&amp;amp;#x0259;.&amp;amp;#x02C8;t&amp;amp;#x0251;.si}} This name appears to be Polish in origin. Since this name has never been mentioned in the events of the screenplay or regular episodes, and as other names in the book, such as [[Cally]], do not match  existing aired or official information, this name should be treated as part of a [[Battlestar Wiki:Separate continuity|separate continuity]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**According to the author, the fact that it&#039;s spelt &amp;quot;I Satan&amp;quot; backwards is a coincidence.&lt;br /&gt;
*In an [http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700002601 interview], [[David Eick]] stated that there was never a canonical name which Baltar called Number Six while she was on Caprica, and &amp;quot;We always liked the idea that Baltar was a man of many tastes and that there&#039;s every likelihood that he never knew her name&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald D. Moore|Ron Moore]] echoed this in [[Podcast:The Battlestar Roundtable|The Battlestar Roundtable podcast]] when asked about Number Six&#039;s name by [[James Callis]] and [[Jamie Bamber]]. Moore stated that Baltar &amp;quot;just didn&#039;t care enough&amp;quot; to learn her name. &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;noname&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=The Battlestar Roundtable|act=|id=|timestamp=18:21|totalrunning=177:58}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Also mentioned in the Roundtable podcast, [[Michael Rymer]] said his take on Six&#039;s name was that, in the spirit of a &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Seinfeld|Seinfeld]]&#039;&#039; episode, Baltar just missed Number Six&#039;s name when they met and he spent the next two years of their relationship just trying to see how far he could get with her without ever mentioning her name.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;noname&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=The Battlestar Roundtable|act=|id=|timestamp=18:46|totalrunning=177:58}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six&#039;s outfit after her resurrection is considerably less elaborate than what she wore when working with Baltar, and she wears far less make-up, indicating that she only dressed so seductively for her mission.&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six&#039;s personality in &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; implies she might have shown humanity more compassion by, say, hailing them first, or landing &#039;&#039;outside&#039;&#039; the city, implying that her conversion of Cylon society isn&#039;t as complete as the [[Cavil]]s claimed or once was but has regressed in the interim year.&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six seems to have developed protective feelings for Hera that could almost be described as motherly. She was happy to help Sharon rescue her in &amp;quot;Rapture,&amp;quot; and even went to Galactica with them. Caprica&#039;s hallucinations in &amp;quot;Crossroads&amp;quot; and these feelings about Hera may give more insight to the connection between her and Baltar through their inner versions of each other as well as their connection to Hera that inner Six has been hinting about since &amp;quot;Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming.&amp;quot; The hallucinations are very similar to Baltar&#039;s hallucination on Kobol. There may also be a connection between this &amp;quot;family&amp;quot; that has been prophesized since the first season and the final five as they were also present in the opera house with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This page is about &amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot;, the copy of Cylon Model Number Six who seduced Gaius Baltar on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] in order to sabotage Colonial defenses in the Cylon attack. For information on two other named Number Six copies seen in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], see [[Shelly Godfrey]] and [[Gina]]. For general information on the model, see [[Number Six]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
    {{Character Data&lt;br /&gt;
    |photo=Season 3 - Promo - AMOS - Number Six.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
    |age=&lt;br /&gt;
    |colony= &lt;br /&gt;
    |birthname= &lt;br /&gt;
    |servicen= &lt;br /&gt;
    |callsign=&lt;br /&gt;
    |seen= Miniseries&lt;br /&gt;
    |Resurrection= Killed by nuclear shockwave and reborn ([[Miniseries]]). Shot by [[Number Five]] and reborn ([[Precipice]]).&lt;br /&gt;
    |parents= &lt;br /&gt;
    |siblings=&lt;br /&gt;
    |children=&lt;br /&gt;
    |marital status= Single, in a relationship with [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Caprica-Six&#039;s Virtual Baltar|a hallucination of Gaius Baltar]]. Previously involved with the [[Gaius Baltar|&amp;quot;real&amp;quot; Baltar]] and [[Number Three]].&lt;br /&gt;
    |role= Cylon Infiltrator&lt;br /&gt;
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    |actor= [[Tricia Helfer]]&lt;br /&gt;
    |cylon= y&lt;br /&gt;
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    }}&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the attack, &#039;&#039;&#039;Caprica-Six&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;name&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot; is not a fan-invented name or Battlestar Wiki [[Battlestar_Wiki:Descriptive_term|descriptive term]].  She is literally called &amp;quot;Caprica-Six&amp;quot; in dialog in &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot;, which is revealed in a conversation which explains that it is a nickname the Cylons developed to distinguish this &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; from all of the other copies.  This may actually be a jab by the writers at fans, who earlier came up with the fan designations &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;-Sharon&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Caprica-Sharon&amp;quot; to tell various Cylon copies apart. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; was a copy of Six who played an important role in preparing the way for a Cylon invasion. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For two years, Caprica-Six lived on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]]. Seducing the ambitious, self-obsessed, arrogant [[Gaius Baltar]], she fools him into believing she was a corporate spy, seeking to gain advantage over her competitors in order to secure a lucrative defense contract. Over the course of two years, she used Baltar to gain access to his work -- even to the extent of re-writing many of his own algorithms -- in order to subvert his own [[Command Navigation Program]] so that it could be used in the forthcoming Cylon attack to cripple Colonial forces. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Near the end of the two years, she sees a baby in a pram in a market place. The baby&#039;s mother is also present but then becomes distracted with someone else talking to her. Caprica-Six takes a closer look at the baby and snaps its neck and walks away looking distressed, possibly to spare it from the coming nuclear holocaust.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the Cylon attack starts, Caprica-Six tells Baltar how she is a Cylon, and what her real goal with is CNP was. When a shockwave from one of the nuclear bombs rips through Baltar&#039;s house, her body is destroyed as she tries to protect him from it ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She is reborn into a new body and is hailed as a &amp;quot;Hero of the Cylon&amp;quot;. Just as Baltar has visions of her, Caprica-Six has persistent visions of him.  When she asks the other Cylons, particularly [[Number Three]], if Baltar was still alive, the copy of Number Three replies that he died along with nearly everyone else still on Caprica and the other colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While living on Cylon-occupied Caprica, her vision of Baltar and her own developing feelings and intuition leads her to question some of the basic ideals that the Cylons hold dear.  Unbeknownst to her, Number Three becomes distressed with her lingering attachment to Baltar and seeks to manipulate her feelings in order to make her unstable, thus giving the Cylons an excuse to &amp;quot;[[boxing|box]]&amp;quot; her.  Three points Caprica-Six in the direction of a [[Number Eight]] who was having trouble adjusting to life as a Cylon and still clinging to her old false human identity; [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Lt. Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]], formerly of the battlestar &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Caprica NC.jpg|thumb|left|Caprica during the occupation]]&lt;br /&gt;
Through her counseling work with &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot;-Eight she learns that Three had deceived her; Baltar is not only alive but is also Vice President of the Colonies in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|surviving human fleet]]. After uncovering the lie about Baltar&#039;s death, she and Boomer-Eight began to question themselves more about their brethren. If murder was a sin in the eyes of [[God]] when committed by humans, why is genocide condoned by God when committed by Cylons?  Questions like these begin to take hold in Caprica-Six&#039;s mind and are compounded by feelings of guilt for her role in the attack on the Colonies. While trapped in a garage with Boomer-Eight, Three and [[Samuel Anders|Anders]], Caprica-Six directly confronts the hypocrisy of the Cylons  and ultimately rejects the false &amp;quot;truths&amp;quot; of her existence. She chooses instead to use her newfound celebrity to speak out against the Cylon&#039;s continuing war against humanity.  Together with Boomer-Eight, she sets out to bring fundamental changes to Cylon society, their first action being to save the life of Anders ([[Downloaded]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just over a year after the human colonization of [[New Caprica]], Caprica-Six is one of the leaders (with [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer-Eight]] and a copy of [[Number Five]]) of the Cylon forces that meets now-President Baltar. In just a few words, Caprica-Six reveals to Baltar that she remembers precisely who he is, and how she missed him ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Caprica and Baltar attempt to renew their relationship during the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, to the ridicule of some of the Cylons and the challenge of Number Three. The relationship is rocky, as Baltar&#039;s very survival rests on Caprica&#039;s feelings for him. Caprica is also the only Cylon who attempts to befriend Baltar&#039;s aides, such as [[Felix Gaeta]]. Her attempts are ultimately unsuccessful, as Baltar can&#039;t connect emotionally to her and even fails physically (&amp;quot;[[Occupation]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Precipice]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Capry.jpg|thumb|right|Caprica-Six on a Cylon baseship]]&lt;br /&gt;
During the withdrawal of the Cylons from New Caprica, Caprica and Baltar try to stop Three from detonating a nuclear bomb, and discover [[Hera]] in the process ([[Exodus, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Caprica appears to regret her decisions, as Baltar&#039;s status with the Cylons rests on the vote of the Sixes ([[Collaborators]]). Eventually she votes to keep him alive, though she treats him poorly up until the time he is tortured by [[Number Three]]. From then on she is sleeping with both Baltar and the Number Three that tortured him ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As their relationship continues and time passes, Caprica begins to become isolated from Baltar and Three, who are occupied investigating the mystery of the [[final five]] Cylons. Eventually she confronts them on the fact; as Baltar tries telling her that&#039;s not the case, Three interrupts him and tells Caprica that Caprica&#039;s relationship with them is over, and that their destiny is separate from hers (though stating that &amp;quot;We love you too. But this is something you cannot share with us.&amp;quot;). As Three and Baltar depart to the [[Algae planet]], Caprica is left heartbroken ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Sharon Agathon]] is killed by [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and downloads to the [[Resurrection Ship]], Caprica-Six is the one to greet her, and takes her to [[Hera|her child]]. When [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] threatens to kill Hera, Caprica snaps Boomer&#039;s neck and helps Sharon smuggle the baby off the [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] to &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. Upon her arrival on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, she is thrown in the [[brig]] by [[Saul Tigh|Col. Tigh]]. ([[Rapture]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following the failed interrogations of Baltar, Caprica is visited by President Roslin. Roslin assures Caprica that she will not be thrown out of an airlock, to which she responds with doubt, as [[Leoben]] was executed after being promised he would not be harmed. Caprica makes a deal with Roslin: give Baltar a trial, and Caprica will tell the Fleet everything she knows. Roslin likely now suspects that Caprica may be the &amp;quot;blond-haired&amp;quot; woman she saw with Baltar before the attacks due to Baltar mentioning the name &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; during the interrogation, and Six telling Roslin that she is known as &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]], bonus scene).&lt;br /&gt;
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During Baltar&#039;s trial, Caprica begins experiencing shared hallucinations with Laura Roslin, Sharon Agathon, and Hera. The hallucinations all take place in the Kobol opera house. Roslin, Sharon, and Caprica are searching the lobby of the opera house for Hera. Caprica finds her, grabs her, and disappears into the main chamber of the opera house with Baltar. The door closes behind them and ends the initial dream. The hallucination later continues with her and Baltar walking onto the stage of the opera house with Hera. The two of them turn around and the final five are standing on the balcony. They are displayed as indistinguishable white figures. It has not yet been revealed if Baltar was also sharing in this hallucination. ([[Crossroads, Part I]]) ([[Crossroads, Part II]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*According to the [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)|novelization]] of the [[Miniseries]] by [http://www.starrigger.net/ SF novelist Jeffrey A. Carver], the name that Baltar called Six before she revealed she was a Cylon during the attack was &amp;quot;Natasi.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**{{IPA|n&amp;amp;#x0259;.&amp;amp;#x02C8;t&amp;amp;#x0251;.si}} This name appears to be Polish in origin. Since this name has never been mentioned in the events of the screenplay or regular episodes, and as other names in the book, such as [[Cally]], do not match  existing aired or official information, this name should be treated as part of a [[Battlestar Wiki:Separate continuity|separate continuity]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**According to the author, the fact that it&#039;s spelt &amp;quot;I Satan&amp;quot; backwards is a coincidence.&lt;br /&gt;
*In an [http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700002601 interview], [[David Eick]] stated that there was never a canonical name which Baltar called Number Six while she was on Caprica, and &amp;quot;We always liked the idea that Baltar was a man of many tastes and that there&#039;s every likelihood that he never knew her name&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald D. Moore|Ron Moore]] echoed this in [[Podcast:The Battlestar Roundtable|The Battlestar Roundtable podcast]] when asked about Number Six&#039;s name by [[James Callis]] and [[Jamie Bamber]]. Moore stated that Baltar &amp;quot;just didn&#039;t care enough&amp;quot; to learn her name. &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;noname&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=The Battlestar Roundtable|act=|id=|timestamp=18:21|totalrunning=177:58}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Also mentioned in the Roundtable podcast, [[Michael Rymer]] said his take on Six&#039;s name was that, in the spirit of a &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Seinfeld|Seinfeld]]&#039;&#039; episode, Baltar just missed Number Six&#039;s name when they met and he spent the next two years of their relationship just trying to see how far he could get with her without ever mentioning her name.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;noname&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=The Battlestar Roundtable|act=|id=|timestamp=18:46|totalrunning=177:58}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six&#039;s outfit after her resurrection is considerably less elaborate than what she wore when working with Baltar, and she wears far less make-up, indicating that she only dressed so seductively for her mission.&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six&#039;s personality in &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; implies she might have shown humanity more compassion by, say, hailing them first, or landing &#039;&#039;outside&#039;&#039; the city, implying that her conversion of Cylon society isn&#039;t as complete as the [[Cavil]]s claimed or once was but has regressed in the interim year.&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Six seems to have developed protective feelings for Hera that could almost be described as motherly. She was happy to help Sharon rescue her in &amp;quot;Rapture,&amp;quot; and even went to Galactica with them. Caprica&#039;s hallucinations in &amp;quot;Crossroads&amp;quot; and these feelings about Hera may give more insight to the connection between her and Baltar through their inner versions of each other as well as their connection to Hera that inner Six has been hinting about since &amp;quot;Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming.&amp;quot; The hallucinations are very similar to Baltar&#039;s hallucination on Kobol. There may also be a connection between this &amp;quot;family&amp;quot; that has been prophesized since the first season and the final five as they were also present in the opera house with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti-Atheist Opinions ==&lt;br /&gt;
I just removed anti-atheist comments added to the cavil entry.  just because he&#039;s an atheist doesn&#039;t make him automatically immoral and worse than his religious counterparts.   Nor has cavil shown anything that one couldn&#039;t find in his religious counterparts, he&#039;s just obtuse.  [[User:Azselendor|Azselendor]] 13:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replacement and retirement of article title ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;This discussion&#039;s origin originated in [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions/Archive02#Replacement and retirement of the term &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot;|the Standards and Conventions talk page]], where you can find the original content.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Per the discussion in the above link, I plan to move this article to [[Cylon agent]], as it is the most commonly used term to describe the humanoid Cylon models. &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; will redirect here, and we will need to scour for other terms to redirect as well. This name is sufficiently canonical that it is unlikely that further debate is required. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:58, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it. Though with an article title of &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;, it would be great to have a screen capture of the file on Laura&#039;s desk that has that wording on it. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:04, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I may just spend $2 on iTunes to get just that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:14, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Move completed; no Big Thang. Summary subarticle in Cylon series pages also updated. Please update any pages for old terminology when appropriate. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:33, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Am I right in saying that all references to Humano-Cylon should be changed to Cylon agent&amp;gt; --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 08:12, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s correct. We&#039;re going with &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; since the only evidence indicating &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; (see below) may have been doctored by the Cylons to throw us off... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:19, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Just to clarify; they made the picture below as a joke.  Really, we discussed it on our Conventions page, and &amp;quot;human-cylon&amp;quot; seemed too much like describing the Hybrid, and hasn&#039;t gained much outside use, so we opted for something else.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 14:05, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Known Cylon Agents ==&lt;br /&gt;
That pic is AWESOME! It fits the section so well that I would normally suspect that it had been photoshopped (if I hadn&#039;t already seen it in the show). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:00, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps you moved the article too soon...&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll likely delete this image soon. I just had the idea of Photoshopping the folder after the preceding post. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 18:19, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Photoshop: Suitable tool, or instrument of Satan? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:37, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Naming Convention ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As of &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; we now finally know some other Model numbers besides Number Six:  &amp;quot;D&#039;anna Biers&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three&#039;&#039;&#039;, &amp;quot;Aaron Doral&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Five&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &amp;quot;Sharon &#039;Boomer&#039; Valerii&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Eight&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In light of this, should we change the title of some, or all, of their character articles to read &amp;quot;Number Three&amp;quot;, etc. like for Number Six?  Because apparently, among themselves the Cylons never actually use the fake human names some used as spys, or indeed refer to themselves by name at all. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 02:59, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would think that the unfortunately named Number Two is a pretty thankless job. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:00, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, where those numbers are known. I broached the subject on [[Talk:Sharon Valerii]] and am currently awaiting a little more feedback before we go ahead with the move. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:07, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do the Cylons tend to look out for Number One? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 03:09, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Number One is not a number, he is a man. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:10, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A free man? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 03:24, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with changing the title of ALL articles referring to the mainstream model, making two new for D&#039;anna and Aaron (the media models) like we did for the sharons and sixes.--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]  25 February 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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When did &amp;quot;we&amp;quot; start calling them &amp;quot;Galactica-Boomer&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Caprica-Boomer&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Pegasus-Six&amp;quot;, etc?  You see, Televesionwithoutpity.com does make up and popularize terms like this....but I&#039;m not sure if they STARTED using it, or if they TOOK UP using it from some reviewer or the messageboards.  I seriously think this is one of those Stand Alone Complex things; we all just more or less independently, from the grassroots up, got the idea to do that.  Anyone? --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 04:49, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Pretty much. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:03, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I generally compel the proper use of &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; to the Galactica model only, as she is the copy that actually served. &#039;&#039;No one&#039;&#039; in episodes have called the Caprica copy by that name, and things are confusing enough. &amp;quot;Caprica-Valerii&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Galactica-Valerii&amp;quot; (or Boomer) is better. Otherwise, yes, we have to make things up until we get an official term, but we should be consistent and precise about it. &#039;&#039;Never&#039;&#039; use Sharon in any context--use of character first names only is against wiki convention in episode summaries. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:19, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Actually, Baltar called Caprica-Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; at the end of Home, part 2. But what does he know?--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:55, 9 March 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: a Cylon agent transfers its consciousness... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just started watching BSG about a week ago and im only part way through season 2, but I&#039;m thinking isn&#039;t there a way for the Galactica crew to stop the cylon agents they kill from transmiting their consciousness? Cant they put the agent in a room with thick metal walls to stop the signal, or put their bodies into a woodchipper, or something similar, so whatever system in the body that transmits will be destroyed? In season one they just tossed the agent out an airlock, they didn&#039;t even try to stop him. I guess they really haven&#039;t explained yet how it is even possible for the agent&#039;s body to come up with enough energy to transmit their entire consciousness in an undetectable signal instantly across several light years. Maybe they&#039;ll get to it in a future episode, including the ones I haven&#039;t seen yet. Right now, its very magical fairies. --[[User:Bp|Bp]] 17:07, 9 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It comes up a bit later. Specifically, right after the mid-season cliff-hanger of Season 2. Not &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; your questions will be answered, but it becomes less magical. *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] 02:09, 10 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grace Park Reveals Cylon Secrets.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
MediaBlvd&#039;s interview with Grace Park was releasd in the full today, revealing a few more things about the nature of the Cylons that had not been released before. A lot of things are Park&#039;s own point of view, but she does mention a few interesting facts she read in the &amp;quot;Cylon Handout&amp;quot;. Some of these facts include:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot; Because Cylons were created in the form of humans, and humans were created in God’s image, and Cylons want to be close to God, they can actually choose - but some models more likely than others tend to eat rather than just taking in nutrients.  We just learned all this, I didn’t even know it, but taking in nutrients, I think through the skin&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;There would be specific ports in the Cylon base ship that they could do this, and they can also do that with information.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;- it wasn’t a very specific jack, like your phone jack in the wall.  Nothing like that in her arm.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;A little bit of both of that.  Within one model, the different bodies can share memories, but within that model only.  Now I use the words ‘CAN share memories,’ because it’s not like they all automatically share them.  I’m under the understanding that you can choose to upload, and you can choose to download information.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;- that the Cylons that we’ve known so far are programmed not even to think about the last five.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the actual facts she mentions, amidst her opinions, but what I posted were the solid facts. The last one had already been mentioned before, but this comment clarified that it&#039;s not that they don&#039;t know who they are, they just don&#039;t think about them.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are also some other interesting tidbits in there (such as why exactly the Naked Sharons let themeselves die) which may help other articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted to ask before posting any of this information, it&#039;s all solid and concise, but should we nonetheless abstain from putting in the bits we got (because we have nothing else and it would prove to be tantalizing). I think we should put it in, since they are actual facts from the new &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot;, but I wanted to pass it here so that you can judge on where to put them and how to word them. (Cuz I suck at actually adding it on the article, so I&#039;d rather share the info and let someone else do the fine tuning on the article itself)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the full interview: http://www.mediablvd.com/magazine/Magazine-Home/MBMag_20060420145.html&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 17:22 09 May 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s kind of how I always rationalized they must share info; not between models, not a hive mind, they CAN but don&#039;t alaways.  This &amp;quot;nutrient bath&amp;quot; thing is new and intruiging though.  &amp;quot;This form brings us closer to God&amp;quot;; yeah I was already theorizing on this after that comment in KLG II that that&#039;s why they wanted to appear humanlike.  Anyway, great to get some more or less confirmation on those musings/speculation.  ***I don&#039;t know why, but some people treated it as a &amp;quot;oh my God, massive spoiler&amp;quot; that the 7 known Cylon models might not consciously think of who the unrevealed ones are.  I mean, it doesn&#039;t actually affect the plot or ANY of our speculation so far; always assumed they had some sort of saftey feature like that for secrecy. &#039;&#039;&#039;I wonder:  was this &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot; RECENTLY written?&#039;&#039;&#039;  The [[Series Bible]] was written in the break between the Miniseries and season one.  Of course, they could have had these Cylon points as running ideas in the writer&#039;s room, but is this new, written down 10 page-ish long &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot; something new she got?  Context.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:26, 9 May 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It seems the series bible did not containt detailed information on the Cylon Characters beyond the basics, the new bible is specifically made for Cylons I think, probably detailing some history, both personal and such, and the kind of things that may help an actor understand who/what they are playing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, this nutrient bath may be the reason we saw the Sharons naked in KLG2, rather than the Cylons being nudists., and maybe that&#039;s also why that part of the Basestar is organic, because it feeds the Ships and the Agents. Guess we&#039;ll know in Season 3 --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well I always thought they were naked just because they were &amp;quot;fresh off the assembly line&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;in storage&amp;quot; or whatever; like Terminator.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, 10 May 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Maybe, but with the Resurrection Ship.... --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]10 May 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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So wouldn&#039;t the Grace Park interview indicate that the evidence &amp;quot;against&amp;quot; Baltar being a Cylon presented in Downloaded is pretty much bupkis? If the agents arent supposed to think of him as an agent, they&#039;d call him a human. In fact, Baltar&#039;s behavior is so selfish it borders on cliche. It would seem to me that he would fit the &amp;quot;selfish asshole&amp;quot; archetype of humanity pretty damned well. --[[User:Number Thirteen|Number Thirteen]] 01:04, 12 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== telepathic abilities  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When Sharon met here &amp;quot;sisters&amp;quot; in the basestar, she could hear their voices. Could that mean, that she has telepathic abilities? Or possibly a kind of relaying made this possible? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:06, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hi, Tirkon. We really don&#039;t have any information into the actual manner in which agents transfer low level data (specifically, their memories). They aren&#039;t like the Borg; they haven&#039;t a collective consciousness. For Boomer to &amp;quot;hear&amp;quot; their voices may suggest that she (as a sleeper) was hearing this low level data transfer for the first time, and being on a basestar may have exacerbated this ability. Agents very likely share data from a collective knowledgebase (since models of the same kind seem to know much of what another model knows, to a point). Since Cylon agents are still constructs, the concept of telepathic abilities suggest implausible things that attribute more biological (even spiritual) concepts to these constructs that probably don&#039;t apply; a machine can definitely transmit and receive data (something proven in &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot;) so this is the best way to consider Boomer&#039;s realization, in my opinion. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:22, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== humanoid cylons stronger than humans ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think, it is confirmed, that the humanoid cylons are stronger than humans. I.e. confirmed by the fights Starbuck-Number Six, Starbuck-Leoben and William Adama-Leoben. In particular during the fight Starbuck-Number Six Six throws Starbuck as hard as a human never could. During &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; Six slays Number Three with a huge piece of concrete, which never could be handled so easy by a human. And this piece must have bean very heavy, because the head of Number Three was mud after that. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:43, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s generally true. While their bodies are still just as vulnerable to injury as a human body, their strength is definitely greater, although we can&#039;t state by how much. We can assume that they are strong enough to pick up a human of similar size, but are not strong enough to bend steel bars (otherwise captured agents could escape their cages). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:57, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;We can assume that they are strong enough to pick up a human of similar size&#039;&#039; ... and throw it about four meters. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:13, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And there seems to be a little disaccord. If one is strong enough for doing that, he also must be heavy enough for doing that (balance weight). That is opposite to the sex between Baltar and Six, when Six was lying on him (the read vertebral column in miniseries). -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:39, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== humanoid cylons = agents? ==&lt;br /&gt;
You always talk here from the humoid cylons as agents. Is that realy true? Are they ALL!! agents? Possibly the word &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; does not have the same meaning in Englisch and German. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:32, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The term &amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; came [[:Image:Cylonagentdossier.jpg|from the show]]. See the [[Cylon_agent#_note-name|name note]] at the bottom of the article. So it&#039;s mostly a matter of trying to be &amp;quot;canonical&amp;quot; than trying to imply any sort of affiliation or loyalty. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:50, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aaaaaah! Thanks for that claricifation. :o) In the german Battlestar version the term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; is not as common. German Wikipedia points out a difference between the english and german use of term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot;. Thus this could be a matter for that. Further the view of some cylons (&amp;quot;the heros in &amp;quot;Download&amp;quot;) has changed. Thus in german Battlestar Wiki I have used &amp;quot;humanoid cylon&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;cylon agent&amp;quot;. And with you comment I am safe, that this dicision was adequate. Sorry for cannot beeing as precise as I would. But I am not a native english speaker. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:23, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Maybe its just me but i always loved the term [[Humano-Cylon]] ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:30, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not a problem! Looks like everything worked out. Also, bear in mind that the standards and conventions of the particular wiki should rule for its articles. That is to say, the German Wiki&#039;s standards and conventions should govern the articles at the German wiki. Don&#039;t let the [[BW:SC|English version]] restrict you at all. As long as you&#039;re consistent with your own rules there the German reader/editor will have a more standard/uniform experience. (Though you may want to update [[:de:Battlestar Wiki:Standards und Konventionen|that page ]] once you&#039;ve established new conventions). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:34, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;want to update that page&#039;&#039; At present we are just two translaters. And we are still going to built up the structere and translate the episodes and the most important characters. At this state such conventions are not the point. ;o) And the human cylons was until now the only point, what was a little problematic for me. Thus I wanted discuss this with the well-versed people here. And this was helpful :o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:55, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unseen cylon agent (miniseries) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the miniseries, Number Six mentions to Baltar that she is meeting someone (26:35 into the miniseries) when they are walking in public prior to the attack. She leaves Baltar and immediately meets with an unseen person (27:12), remarking &amp;quot;It&#039;s about time, wondered when you&#039;d get here&amp;quot;. This person can only be a cylon - but they never appear on screen. Who could it be?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Anyone. It could also be just another very human bloke Six had contact with during her time on Caprica. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:10, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cylon naming and instancing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Cylons agents (including sleeper agents) appear to be able to distinguish different instances of the same cylon model from one and other without any difficulty. In Downloaded, &#039;Sharon&#039; seems to have no difficulty in identifying individual cylons apart, despite the fact that all cylons of a given model are visually identical. In addition, she is admonished for using her name because it is a vestige of her human identity and presumably redundant in cylon society.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Cfuxe|cfuse]] 06:57, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Honestly, we don&#039;t know how they do it, and I doubt that it&#039;ll ever be explained in the series. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:13, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Centurions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s been added that Cylon Centurions can&#039;t tell the difference between copies of the same model, but that&#039;s not what Adama said. He said that they can&#039;t tell one humanoid Cylon (ex: Sharon) apart from any other humanoid Cylon. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:51, 10 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A word about Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The entry about Number Three says, that &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;of all the Cylon agent models revealed to viewers, the Colonials are not yet aware that D&#039;anna Biers is a Cylon agent as of the season two finale, &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, c&#039;mon. In &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; D&#039;Anna, along with other Cylons, was clearly seen by Samuel Anders. In &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I&amp;quot; Anders arrives on Galactica - did you think that he hasn&#039;t told the others about what he saw on Caprica? The moment Anders was rescued by Starbuck&amp;amp;Co., the true identity of D&#039;Anna was no longer a secret (hence her presence on New Caprica).-- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 17:29, 17 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi, Spike. Aside from the article now being out of date, the specific clarification  you&#039;re missing is &amp;quot;of all the Cylon agents revealed to viewers, the &#039;&#039;members of [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]]&#039;&#039; are not aware that D&#039;anna Biers is a Cylon as of &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II.&amp;quot;&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; members and her Fleet may still be unaware that the one named D&#039;Anna is a Cylon (but has likely received intel from their Raptor deployments in Season 3). Anders (although a Colonial) was not part of the Fleet until the end of LDYB and may have not seen the documentary that Biers created, thus not being able to inform the Fleet of yet another Cylon. It is likely that he does inform them; we as viewers aren&#039;t enlightened to this until the obvious events on New Caprica where all known agents are revealed to them. (Please be sure to sign your comments; place a couple of dashes and four tilde symbols (~). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:32, 17 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cylons as the Lords of Kobol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the 12 models of Cylon Agents, it seems possible that they represent the 12 Lords of Kobol.  Many of the models seem to have traits associated with the Olympians.  I’m not suggesting that the Cylons actually are the gods themselves, but copies of the gods.  They may or may not know that they represent the gods.  A list of the Olympians matches fairly well with what we know about some of the Cylons.  (In particular, the Number 6 / Aphrodite connection is almost undeniable.)  Some agents who we know less about (Simon, Cavil) are a looser fit.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Poseidon&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Sea.  Holds influence among the Olympians, but is greedy and quarrelsome.  -  Cavil?  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hades&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Underworld.  Unpitying, always in control of his domain.  Abducted a woman to be his wife – Leoben  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hera&#039;&#039;&#039;, Zeus’s wife.  Holds great influence, constantly schemes.  -  Number 3  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ares&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of War.  A brutal murderer, but also a coward.  -  Number 5  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;&#039;.  A fierce soldier and protector of her people.  -  Number 8  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Aphrodite&#039;&#039;&#039;, Goddess of Beauty.  Holds great power over men.  -  Number 6  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hephaestus&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Forge.  Skills are mental, and creation, not a fighter. - Simon&lt;br /&gt;
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This leaves Zeus, Hestia, Apollo, Hermes, and Artemis as the remaining unknown  Cylons.  Does anyone else think there may be something to this, or have better fits for some agents?  --[[User:PhoenixDreams|PhoenixDreams]] 14:24, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I&#039;ve definitely considered the possibility that the Cylon Models and the Lords of Kobol are intimately connected for quite a while. The problem always was that the Greek Pantheon did not neatly end up with a dozen gods, so there was a fair amount of guess work for the what the remaining Lords of Kobol were. For example, I doubt Hestia will be one of them: she&#039;s a fairly obscure goddess. Demeter or Dionysus are more likely candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
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: I really like some of the parallels you&#039;ve come up with though. Aphrodite=Six was always the fairly obvious one, and I&#039;ve considered Sharon as Athena. I quite like the parallels between Leoben and Hades. All of the other parallels you&#039;ve come up with work. It&#039;s just that without knowing all of the Lords of Kobol and all of the models, and what roles they will ultimately play, it&#039;s hard to say exactly how everyone fits. Sure, at the moment Number Six seems to obviously be the Aphrodite of the Cylons, but with her obsession with childbirth, I sometimes wonder if she&#039;s destined to be Artemis. Not that she&#039;s especially virginal. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 14:52, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be the 12 Gods of Kobol, or one for each of the 12 Colonies, which then of course suggests there may be a 13th secret model to correspond to Earth.  [[User:Yaneh|Yaneh]] 13:28, 15 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen in this picture http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000t5fg5 (presuming they are the final five) this makes out of 12 agents 5 female and 7 male....which match the gender mix of the 12 Lords of Kobol(presuming they match with their greek counterparts).&lt;br /&gt;
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Male - Zeus, Poseidon, Hephaestus, Ares, Hades, Hermes, Apollo&lt;br /&gt;
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Female - Athena, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Hestia --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 12:23, 11 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The 5 remaining agents == &lt;br /&gt;
I think it is apparent that the function of the 5 remaining agents is different from the function of the 7 known agents (my analysis) since the 7 seem to be making decisions on both New Caprica and on the basestar about Baltar and the other 5 are not.  Additionally, we have Aaron Douglas&#039;s speculation on their status and there is probably other evidence but I honestly haven&#039;t done any research on that.   Is there enough beef behind this line of reasoning to say that it&#039;s not speculation on my part and is worthy of putting SOMETHING on the article page?  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 21:18, 29 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s certainly speculation, and moreover, it&#039;s based on spoilers. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:25, 29 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, in truth we have a lot more information about the Cylons than we&#039;ve seen on the show, but since we&#039;ve received them in interviews they could be considered spoilery, and as such must be kept out. Which is sad really, because a lot of great Cylon things were left out because of timing constraints (How they eat, more of projection, etc...). These are things we have knowledge of because of interviews, but we can&#039;t include them because there&#039;s still the chance that they&#039;ve chosen to reveal it at another point in the show, later on, which would make whatever information received behind the curtain a possible spoiler. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 15:53, 11 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possibilities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if there is a non-humanoid sapient Cylon we haven&#039;t seen yet, maybe something too large to effectively move around (perhaps stuck on the Cylon homeworld that the Cylons disappeared to after the first Cylon war).  It could explain a number of things, including how the Cylon agents came into being -- perhaps they are a sort of iPod version of the non-humanoid sapient Cylons, fitting a technological sapience into a more convenient humanoid form.&lt;br /&gt;
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Centurions themselves nor their ships could not have been all there was to the Cylons in the days of the first Cylon war -- how could they rebel?  They simply follow orders and carry them out.  There must have been *something* or *someone* in those days to alter their programming if not have some sort of control seizure to make them rebel against the human Colonials.  It may have originally been some sort of central server-like system.&lt;br /&gt;
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Its just a wild idea, and probably not what the writers have in mind, but something like it could explain some of the seeming inconsistencies and plot holes.  Something completely different could also work, I suppose.  The Centurions certainly don&#039;t seem to have true sapience, and I doubt they have any religious conceptions.  --[[User:Itsua|Itsua]] 08:38, 9 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There&#039;s a lot we don&#039;t know about the Cylons past. However, it&#039;s been hinted at that the old Centurions had artifical intelligence, which allowed them to think independently. The new Cylon Centurions, however, don&#039;t have a true artificial intelligence since the Cylons themselves didn&#039;t want their own machines to rebel against them (this is established in &amp;quot;[[Precipice]]&amp;quot;, by the way). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:01, 9 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It seems improbable that the Cylons were originally &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; Centurions whom later created the Agents, unless the original Centurions were just as sapient (if not moreso) as the Agents.  I&#039;m hoping/guessing the origin of the Agents will be explored in future episodes, and perhaps Caprica will explain more of the Cylon origins.  --[[User:Itsua|Itsua]] 06:10, 11 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I got the distinct impression that the Centurions were originally true AIs and created the skinjobs over intermediate stages like the Raiders and Hybrids. But then the skinjobs - in a nice parallel to humanity - enslaved the Centurions and stripped them off most of their intelligence. As said all that is touched on in &amp;quot;Precipice&amp;quot; --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:22, 11 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Major Revision ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve made heavy reorganization and concisions to this article to make it easier to discern the nature of these characters. I&#039;ve removed data redundant with episode or character articles, and also removed a great deal of [[Battlestar Wiki:Fanwanking|fanwanking material]] that was introduced into the article. The article is still on the long side; further concision to reduce redundancies with other articles is appreciated. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:12, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origin of Cylon Agents ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article asserts, as fact, that the Cylon agents are the result of technological development by the previous Cylon models.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Is this conclusively established in the series so far?&lt;br /&gt;
: Stated? yes I believe it has. Proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? No. This is what we are lead to assume and is presumably what the cylons themselves believe. No other origin of the cylons has really been hinted at.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have suspected that the origin of the Cylon agents was likely the result of either a miraculous fluke or contact with another advanced intelligence — perhaps the Lords of Kobol, whatever the frak they were.  Perhaps even God, though it seems unlikely that He would involve Himself in the affairs of the world in such a literal manner (if He exists at all, which is an open question).&lt;br /&gt;
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If the Cylons have complete access to and understanding of the technology to create the agents, why are they limited to 12 models?&lt;br /&gt;
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: That&#039;s simply how many the designers of the humanoids built. Could the humanoids design more cylons. Sure. Could they recreate replicas of humans...potentially. The question isn&#039;t whether they could do it but SHOULD they do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was the plan of &amp;quot;God&amp;quot; to create those 12 models. To create more models would probably be seen as blasphemy. In essence it would put the cylons equal to God. The cylons assume God knew what he was doing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems they should have the ability to create additional models whenever they want to, the same way that they created the first 12.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if an attempt at this isn&#039;t made, met with failure and agreed to never be done again by the cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t think they want to create more models. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 19:04, 16 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, from what RDM said, the Cylons viewed humanity as only having twelve archetypes. There would need to be a serious change in Cylon society as a whole for ther(See: [[Cylon agent#Ron Moore elaborates on the twelve models]].)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Human names ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s been bugging me lately, but I was wondering about the use of their human names. Are they used solely for infiltration, or are these adopted names? On one hand, we have the Leobons, Cavils, and Simons whose numbers are unknown obviously because they&#039;ve yet to be called aloud by such. The other side is Six, who has used more than one human name (and I might add, is the only model who has yet to be assigned a specific name). There is also the Eights, only two of which have ever been named Sharon Valleri - one as a sleeper and the other using the name deliberately as part of an operation. Not to mention that Simon and Cavil don&#039;t even have full names. Can anyone elighten me on this issue? I see it&#039;s been touched upon here and there in this talk page, but nothing posted has given me a satisfactory answer. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:57, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In &amp;quot;The Eye of Jupiter&amp;quot; the Cylons used their human names among themselves. D&#039;Anna and Cavil, and I think Simon too. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:44, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Individuality is rare among the Cylons. To clarify Serenity, the human names are aliases common to a single model and appear to be used interchangably with their numbering. For Cavil, Leoben Conoy and Simon, the human names are the only names we know as they have not yet been assigned a number. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:03, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This article should be renamed to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon model&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article tries to make the point that within the series all humanoid Cylons are called &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; which is not the case. While that term was used on screen, it was never intended to describe all humanoid Cylons, but only to characterize &#039;&#039;agents&#039;&#039;, i.e. Cylons who impersonate humans in the fleet. By season three we know more random Cylons than actual agents, therefore calling all of them &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; makes no sense to me at all. The term &amp;quot;humanoid model&amp;quot; is just as canon as Cylon agent (Adama uses it in Precipice: &amp;quot;Centurions can&#039;t distinguish her from the other humanoid models&amp;quot;) and it is much more appropriate to the show&#039;s reality. I suggest to rename this article either to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon model&amp;quot; or to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 10:07, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I don&#039;t care for its use as blanket term either. It should only be applied to infiltrators. While &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; can also refer to someone who acts on someone else&#039;s behalf, I think its meaning is that of a spy here. I&#039;m sure some will say that all skinjob models were used as infiltrators at some point, but we also distinguish individuals. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:22, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hi, Sloan. Just to add my two cents to this: Battlestar Wiki tends to use [[BW:TERM|descriptive terms]] where an official name for a person, place, or thing has not been established in episode dialogue. For a long time, &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; was used here for what we know as the Cylon agent. As you may have noted in the central article, there is a dossier shown in the episode, &amp;quot;Epiphanies&amp;quot; that gives the humanoid Cylons a canonical name, where then we changed the name. As well, the term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; is another word for &amp;quot;spy&amp;quot;, of which the agents (up until New Caprica&#039;s occupation) had done fairly well. While not all humanoid Cylons are working for the Cylons (note [[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Hera Agathon]], the name is short, easier to type than &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; and gives sufficient differentation from the other Cylon models. It is quite alright if you want to simply say &amp;quot;Cylon&amp;quot; when discussing these models; they are Cylon. But there seems little purpose, for the needs of simple categorization, between the old &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; term (which is a contraction of &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;) and the current &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; designation, to warrant a name change. See also the discussion on the first name change in this same talk page, above, for the rationale. Frankly, it is also far easier to type the current term. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:29, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t think &amp;quot;short and easier to type&amp;quot; can be relevant arguments really; accuracy should be most important and &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; is just confusing, especially since season three. Why would anyone call a random Cylon, let&#039;s say one on the Cylon homeworld, an &#039;&#039;agent&#039;&#039;? Interestingly, the policy page [[BW:TERM]] you referred to, and the first footnote of this article  both use the term &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; to describe what is really meant by &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;. So why not use this more accurate description in the first place, especially since it is also a canonical term. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 11:19, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; has become troublesome since the introduction of the baseship plot. If a move is required, I would prefer it to be a merge with Cylon (RDM), since the humanoid models are clearly the defaul type, with hybrids and centurions being identified explicitly. That being said, I also have no objection to leaving the article be, for the reasons Spencerian lays out above. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 11:03, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; is more for clearing up any confusion than to be an official name. If you want to talk about their real name, they should just be called &amp;quot;Cylons&amp;quot; like Peter said. They are (as he said), the default, they are the Cylon, the people, the race, the main thing. So yeah, I&#039;m in the same thinking area as Peter. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 12:38, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why don&#039;t we just create redirects from [[Humano-Cylon]] (already exists), [[Humanoid Cylon]], etc. to this page? Keeps everyone happy... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 14:09, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::But it&#039;s also a matter of all other pages calling them &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot;, and a redirect won&#039;t change that. Sure, it&#039;s &amp;quot;just&amp;quot; a descriptive term, but has become the de-facto official name in &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; cases here. However, while its widespread use is somewhat annoying (to me), I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an urgent problem either --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:14, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, if we were to rename it would be to &amp;quot;Cylon&amp;quot;, because that&#039;s their actual name, but &amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; clears any doubts that a reader may have, so I&#039;m alright if we leave it as it is, but would prefer if we merged it with &amp;quot;Cylon (RDM)&amp;quot;--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 14:30, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Since the central [[Cylons (RDM)]] article is really just an introduction (with data a bit redundant to the other articles on the specific models), a merge of [[Cylon agent]] with that article would satisfy the the point the the humanoid Cylons are the dominant Cylons. The Cylon agent article will need to have a bit of fat taken off of it to keep the article small. &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; and current redirects will move to Cylons (RDM).  This change also prevents A LOT of rewriting as we did with the last name change. &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; should still be the referenced name for the humanoids, but their article can become the central article. Sound like a good plan? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:26, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sounds very good to me. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 16:48, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If the content of this article is just moved into &amp;quot;[[Cylons (RDM)]]&amp;quot; and the humanoid Cylons remain &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; nothing changes essentially. I don&#039;t see the point. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 17:18, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ditto. I can see where some stuff from this article can go into [[Cylons (RDM)]], but because [[Cylons (RDM)]] is a &amp;quot;series front page&amp;quot;, I don;t see how we can include information about the different models. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:25, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The logic is, rather than using a complex term to describe something simple, we make the humanoid Cylon as &amp;quot;THE&amp;quot; dominant Cylon by placing their data at the forefront article. We add supplementary links to the other models that, in effect, serve them (Centurions, Raiders, Hybrids). So, [[Cylons (RDM)]] is the de facto &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; article (where any use of Cylon agent goes to this page). This article has the main content of this article, truncates the summary listing of the specific agents, and summarizes other models as well (with forwarding links to their articles, as does [[Cylon Models]]. The purpose of this is to rename without renaming; current redirects remain acceptable to use because, regardless of what we feel, &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; is still a canonical term and should remain, but anyone searching for new Cylon data will see the agents first. The change also increases the obvious importance of this model. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 06:51, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::But that&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039;&#039; besides the point. The point being made was that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; only refers to the infiltrators. It was used on the show, but not as a general term for &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; humanoid Cylons. Yes, it&#039;s an easy term, but as used here not entirely correct. A move would only make sense - especially in regards to the point being made here - if we stop refering to, for example Sharon Agathon, as &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;, because she isn&#039;t one. Not anymore at least. Though I agree that there isn&#039;t one ideal term for them; one that&#039;s readily apparent to everyone --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:50, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: I agree. The point here is that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; no longer applies to some of the humanoid Cylons. The suggestion that the humanoid Cylons should be the dominant Cylon make sense, as they are, but we should best refer to them as &amp;quot;humanoid Cylons&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;human-form Cylons&amp;quot;. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I like the term Humanoid Cylons. It makes sense logically in the absence of an official name. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:17, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::As I pointed out above, the term &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; wouldn&#039;t be entirely uncanonical, Adama called them &amp;quot;humanoid models&amp;quot; in Precipice; maybe there are more instances where the term was used.. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 11:28, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::&amp;lt;joke&amp;gt;We could just call them &amp;quot;Skinjobs&amp;quot;. That&#039;s the easiest and most correct term&amp;lt;/joke&amp;gt; --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:46, 16 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::The [[Hybrid]]s are also technically humanoid cylons, but I don&#039;t see anything wrong with moving the &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; and adding a brief mention of the Hybrids. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:22, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll edit the article to change most instances of &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; later, or remove it when it&#039;s not necessary. Just skimming over the article, I really hate how it&#039;s used as a general term for all Cylons. I don&#039;t think that was ever the intention of the writers. Good thing we changed it :)&lt;br /&gt;
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Btw, the archive links at the top of this talk page are broken now! --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:28, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The bot right now is going through and doing as mass replace. The only thing that we have to do, is change a few other articles that started with Cylon agent. You can see it&#039;s progress by filtering in the bot changes. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:38, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, I thought it only fixed the links. However it replaces everything with &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; as if it were a proper noun :s --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:47, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would still suggest to change the character template to &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon&amp;quot;, because it should be obvious that every Cylon with a &#039;&#039;character&#039;&#039; template is of humanoid form. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 09:48, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:19, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:43, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Move&amp;quot; consensus ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok.. i think we done enough debating, while it can still go on, I suggest we look for a consensus. Here are the choices... [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It seems that we&#039;ve reached a consensus. Is there a certain amount of time that we have to wait before making the change? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 09:37, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The wiki&#039;s managing with the post-episode slowdowns that interrupt a large edit like this. During the off hours, we should be better able to effect the changes. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:09, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m renaming and having the [[User:InterBot]] do the changes tomorrow. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:25, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
; Move to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:22, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} A redirect from &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; would also be an option if you don&#039;t want to change all references --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:39, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
#:The &amp;quot;Move&amp;quot; functionality automagically creates a redirect to the new location at the old name. We&#039;d just have to check for double redirects (which is easy with the [[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double Redirects page]]). {{unsigned|Steelviper}}&lt;br /&gt;
#:The reason for the two different things is because here we are saying that we are going to hunt for all the &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; links and change them to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:16, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. The character template should also be changed from &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon&amp;quot; [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 12:52, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{neutral}}. &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; have very little difference semantically--at least until all Cylons return to their default badness. Either way, since redirects already exist for this change, it&#039;s really a default adjustment that I can support either way &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/deckchairsontitanicrearrange&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:08, 15 January 2007 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. Though I would prefer if the name were simply &amp;quot;Cylons (RDM)&amp;quot;, I do think that &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; is an improvement. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 17:52, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. For the reasons above (Cylon agent only applies to those who are infiltrators, etc.) Also agree with Sloan&#039;s suggestion regarding the character template. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. Sure, although I do agree with Spence re:humano-cylon. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 22:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]]&lt;br /&gt;
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; Move to &amp;quot;Humanoid model&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Split and Merge into both [[Cylons (RDM)]] and &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Keep &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Make &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Term &amp;quot;significant seven&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;ve used various names for the original faction of 7 Cylons seen in the show.  RDM revealed that the internal writer&#039;s term for them is the &amp;quot;significant seven&amp;quot; (a pun on the movie title) so I got the impression we try to use the internal terms rather than trying to make up a term, but I&#039;ve seen edits in both directions.  Likewise the term &amp;quot;final five&amp;quot; which is actually used in scripts (though I have always though it odd as a term the 7 would use for themselves.)  If people don&#039;t like the writer&#039;s term we should standardize on one term which may even get a page -- first seven, original seven, &amp;quot;the seven,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;genocidal seven&amp;quot; etc.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 02:42, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: We try to use the same terms that the writers use, more often than not. So, yes, &amp;quot;Significant Seven&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;Final Five&amp;quot; should be the terms we use -- until something better comes along. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:09, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. I&#039;ve updated the page with the reference in the &amp;quot;Final five&amp;quot; section (where its most germane) and created a redirect for any uses of &amp;quot;Significant seven&amp;quot; to go to that section. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:30, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Listing death of Cylon humanoids?==&lt;br /&gt;
I was under the impression that Cylons can&#039;t die unless they can&#039;t resurrect.  Death is permanent, is it not?  The &amp;quot;Death&amp;quot; listings are only destructions of the body, not of the mind.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, only those that didn&#039;t resurrect after suffering bodily destruction are dead.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Elder Scrolls fantasy universe, the Daedra are a group of higher beings immune to death in a similar manner (though not reliant on some apparatus for resurrection).  They are not considered &amp;quot;killed&amp;quot; when they suffer destruction of their corporeal form, but are called &amp;quot;Banished&amp;quot;, because of their immunity to death.&lt;br /&gt;
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I propose that individual cylon humanoids have &amp;quot;death&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;resurrection&amp;quot; made separate from each other, as they don&#039;t truly die unless they can&#039;t resurrect upon loss of their body.  --[[user:MadCat|MadCat]], 2:11 PM CDT June 4, 2007&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Anti-Atheist Opinions ==&lt;br /&gt;
I just removed anti-atheist comments added to the cavil entry.  just because he&#039;s an atheist doesn&#039;t make him automatically immoral and worse than his religious counterparts.   Nor has cavil shown anything that one couldn&#039;t find in his religious counterparts, he&#039;s just obtuse.  [[User:Azselendor|Azselendor]] 13:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replacement and retirement of article title ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;This discussion&#039;s origin originated in [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions/Archive02#Replacement and retirement of the term &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot;|the Standards and Conventions talk page]], where you can find the original content.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Per the discussion in the above link, I plan to move this article to [[Cylon agent]], as it is the most commonly used term to describe the humanoid Cylon models. &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; will redirect here, and we will need to scour for other terms to redirect as well. This name is sufficiently canonical that it is unlikely that further debate is required. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:58, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it. Though with an article title of &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;, it would be great to have a screen capture of the file on Laura&#039;s desk that has that wording on it. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:04, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I may just spend $2 on iTunes to get just that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:14, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Move completed; no Big Thang. Summary subarticle in Cylon series pages also updated. Please update any pages for old terminology when appropriate. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:33, 14 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Am I right in saying that all references to Humano-Cylon should be changed to Cylon agent&amp;gt; --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 08:12, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s correct. We&#039;re going with &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; since the only evidence indicating &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; (see below) may have been doctored by the Cylons to throw us off... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:19, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Just to clarify; they made the picture below as a joke.  Really, we discussed it on our Conventions page, and &amp;quot;human-cylon&amp;quot; seemed too much like describing the Hybrid, and hasn&#039;t gained much outside use, so we opted for something else.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 14:05, 6 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Known Cylon Agents ==&lt;br /&gt;
That pic is AWESOME! It fits the section so well that I would normally suspect that it had been photoshopped (if I hadn&#039;t already seen it in the show). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:00, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps you moved the article too soon...&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll likely delete this image soon. I just had the idea of Photoshopping the folder after the preceding post. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 18:19, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Photoshop: Suitable tool, or instrument of Satan? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:37, 15 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Naming Convention ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As of &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; we now finally know some other Model numbers besides Number Six:  &amp;quot;D&#039;anna Biers&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three&#039;&#039;&#039;, &amp;quot;Aaron Doral&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Five&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &amp;quot;Sharon &#039;Boomer&#039; Valerii&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Eight&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In light of this, should we change the title of some, or all, of their character articles to read &amp;quot;Number Three&amp;quot;, etc. like for Number Six?  Because apparently, among themselves the Cylons never actually use the fake human names some used as spys, or indeed refer to themselves by name at all. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 02:59, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would think that the unfortunately named Number Two is a pretty thankless job. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:00, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, where those numbers are known. I broached the subject on [[Talk:Sharon Valerii]] and am currently awaiting a little more feedback before we go ahead with the move. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:07, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do the Cylons tend to look out for Number One? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 03:09, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Number One is not a number, he is a man. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:10, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A free man? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 03:24, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with changing the title of ALL articles referring to the mainstream model, making two new for D&#039;anna and Aaron (the media models) like we did for the sharons and sixes.--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]  25 February 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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When did &amp;quot;we&amp;quot; start calling them &amp;quot;Galactica-Boomer&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Caprica-Boomer&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Pegasus-Six&amp;quot;, etc?  You see, Televesionwithoutpity.com does make up and popularize terms like this....but I&#039;m not sure if they STARTED using it, or if they TOOK UP using it from some reviewer or the messageboards.  I seriously think this is one of those Stand Alone Complex things; we all just more or less independently, from the grassroots up, got the idea to do that.  Anyone? --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 04:49, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Pretty much. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:03, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I generally compel the proper use of &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; to the Galactica model only, as she is the copy that actually served. &#039;&#039;No one&#039;&#039; in episodes have called the Caprica copy by that name, and things are confusing enough. &amp;quot;Caprica-Valerii&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Galactica-Valerii&amp;quot; (or Boomer) is better. Otherwise, yes, we have to make things up until we get an official term, but we should be consistent and precise about it. &#039;&#039;Never&#039;&#039; use Sharon in any context--use of character first names only is against wiki convention in episode summaries. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:19, 25 February 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Actually, Baltar called Caprica-Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; at the end of Home, part 2. But what does he know?--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:55, 9 March 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: a Cylon agent transfers its consciousness... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just started watching BSG about a week ago and im only part way through season 2, but I&#039;m thinking isn&#039;t there a way for the Galactica crew to stop the cylon agents they kill from transmiting their consciousness? Cant they put the agent in a room with thick metal walls to stop the signal, or put their bodies into a woodchipper, or something similar, so whatever system in the body that transmits will be destroyed? In season one they just tossed the agent out an airlock, they didn&#039;t even try to stop him. I guess they really haven&#039;t explained yet how it is even possible for the agent&#039;s body to come up with enough energy to transmit their entire consciousness in an undetectable signal instantly across several light years. Maybe they&#039;ll get to it in a future episode, including the ones I haven&#039;t seen yet. Right now, its very magical fairies. --[[User:Bp|Bp]] 17:07, 9 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It comes up a bit later. Specifically, right after the mid-season cliff-hanger of Season 2. Not &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; your questions will be answered, but it becomes less magical. *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] 02:09, 10 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grace Park Reveals Cylon Secrets.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
MediaBlvd&#039;s interview with Grace Park was releasd in the full today, revealing a few more things about the nature of the Cylons that had not been released before. A lot of things are Park&#039;s own point of view, but she does mention a few interesting facts she read in the &amp;quot;Cylon Handout&amp;quot;. Some of these facts include:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot; Because Cylons were created in the form of humans, and humans were created in God’s image, and Cylons want to be close to God, they can actually choose - but some models more likely than others tend to eat rather than just taking in nutrients.  We just learned all this, I didn’t even know it, but taking in nutrients, I think through the skin&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;There would be specific ports in the Cylon base ship that they could do this, and they can also do that with information.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;- it wasn’t a very specific jack, like your phone jack in the wall.  Nothing like that in her arm.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;A little bit of both of that.  Within one model, the different bodies can share memories, but within that model only.  Now I use the words ‘CAN share memories,’ because it’s not like they all automatically share them.  I’m under the understanding that you can choose to upload, and you can choose to download information.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;- that the Cylons that we’ve known so far are programmed not even to think about the last five.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the actual facts she mentions, amidst her opinions, but what I posted were the solid facts. The last one had already been mentioned before, but this comment clarified that it&#039;s not that they don&#039;t know who they are, they just don&#039;t think about them.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are also some other interesting tidbits in there (such as why exactly the Naked Sharons let themeselves die) which may help other articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted to ask before posting any of this information, it&#039;s all solid and concise, but should we nonetheless abstain from putting in the bits we got (because we have nothing else and it would prove to be tantalizing). I think we should put it in, since they are actual facts from the new &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot;, but I wanted to pass it here so that you can judge on where to put them and how to word them. (Cuz I suck at actually adding it on the article, so I&#039;d rather share the info and let someone else do the fine tuning on the article itself)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the full interview: http://www.mediablvd.com/magazine/Magazine-Home/MBMag_20060420145.html&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 17:22 09 May 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s kind of how I always rationalized they must share info; not between models, not a hive mind, they CAN but don&#039;t alaways.  This &amp;quot;nutrient bath&amp;quot; thing is new and intruiging though.  &amp;quot;This form brings us closer to God&amp;quot;; yeah I was already theorizing on this after that comment in KLG II that that&#039;s why they wanted to appear humanlike.  Anyway, great to get some more or less confirmation on those musings/speculation.  ***I don&#039;t know why, but some people treated it as a &amp;quot;oh my God, massive spoiler&amp;quot; that the 7 known Cylon models might not consciously think of who the unrevealed ones are.  I mean, it doesn&#039;t actually affect the plot or ANY of our speculation so far; always assumed they had some sort of saftey feature like that for secrecy. &#039;&#039;&#039;I wonder:  was this &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot; RECENTLY written?&#039;&#039;&#039;  The [[Series Bible]] was written in the break between the Miniseries and season one.  Of course, they could have had these Cylon points as running ideas in the writer&#039;s room, but is this new, written down 10 page-ish long &amp;quot;Cylon Bible&amp;quot; something new she got?  Context.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:26, 9 May 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It seems the series bible did not containt detailed information on the Cylon Characters beyond the basics, the new bible is specifically made for Cylons I think, probably detailing some history, both personal and such, and the kind of things that may help an actor understand who/what they are playing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, this nutrient bath may be the reason we saw the Sharons naked in KLG2, rather than the Cylons being nudists., and maybe that&#039;s also why that part of the Basestar is organic, because it feeds the Ships and the Agents. Guess we&#039;ll know in Season 3 --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well I always thought they were naked just because they were &amp;quot;fresh off the assembly line&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;in storage&amp;quot; or whatever; like Terminator.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, 10 May 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Maybe, but with the Resurrection Ship.... --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]]10 May 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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So wouldn&#039;t the Grace Park interview indicate that the evidence &amp;quot;against&amp;quot; Baltar being a Cylon presented in Downloaded is pretty much bupkis? If the agents arent supposed to think of him as an agent, they&#039;d call him a human. In fact, Baltar&#039;s behavior is so selfish it borders on cliche. It would seem to me that he would fit the &amp;quot;selfish asshole&amp;quot; archetype of humanity pretty damned well. --[[User:Number Thirteen|Number Thirteen]] 01:04, 12 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== telepathic abilities  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When Sharon met here &amp;quot;sisters&amp;quot; in the basestar, she could hear their voices. Could that mean, that she has telepathic abilities? Or possibly a kind of relaying made this possible? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:06, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hi, Tirkon. We really don&#039;t have any information into the actual manner in which agents transfer low level data (specifically, their memories). They aren&#039;t like the Borg; they haven&#039;t a collective consciousness. For Boomer to &amp;quot;hear&amp;quot; their voices may suggest that she (as a sleeper) was hearing this low level data transfer for the first time, and being on a basestar may have exacerbated this ability. Agents very likely share data from a collective knowledgebase (since models of the same kind seem to know much of what another model knows, to a point). Since Cylon agents are still constructs, the concept of telepathic abilities suggest implausible things that attribute more biological (even spiritual) concepts to these constructs that probably don&#039;t apply; a machine can definitely transmit and receive data (something proven in &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot;) so this is the best way to consider Boomer&#039;s realization, in my opinion. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:22, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== humanoid cylons stronger than humans ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think, it is confirmed, that the humanoid cylons are stronger than humans. I.e. confirmed by the fights Starbuck-Number Six, Starbuck-Leoben and William Adama-Leoben. In particular during the fight Starbuck-Number Six Six throws Starbuck as hard as a human never could. During &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; Six slays Number Three with a huge piece of concrete, which never could be handled so easy by a human. And this piece must have bean very heavy, because the head of Number Three was mud after that. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:43, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s generally true. While their bodies are still just as vulnerable to injury as a human body, their strength is definitely greater, although we can&#039;t state by how much. We can assume that they are strong enough to pick up a human of similar size, but are not strong enough to bend steel bars (otherwise captured agents could escape their cages). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:57, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;We can assume that they are strong enough to pick up a human of similar size&#039;&#039; ... and throw it about four meters. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:13, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And there seems to be a little disaccord. If one is strong enough for doing that, he also must be heavy enough for doing that (balance weight). That is opposite to the sex between Baltar and Six, when Six was lying on him (the read vertebral column in miniseries). -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:39, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== humanoid cylons = agents? ==&lt;br /&gt;
You always talk here from the humoid cylons as agents. Is that realy true? Are they ALL!! agents? Possibly the word &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; does not have the same meaning in Englisch and German. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 12:32, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The term &amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; came [[:Image:Cylonagentdossier.jpg|from the show]]. See the [[Cylon_agent#_note-name|name note]] at the bottom of the article. So it&#039;s mostly a matter of trying to be &amp;quot;canonical&amp;quot; than trying to imply any sort of affiliation or loyalty. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:50, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aaaaaah! Thanks for that claricifation. :o) In the german Battlestar version the term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; is not as common. German Wikipedia points out a difference between the english and german use of term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot;. Thus this could be a matter for that. Further the view of some cylons (&amp;quot;the heros in &amp;quot;Download&amp;quot;) has changed. Thus in german Battlestar Wiki I have used &amp;quot;humanoid cylon&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;cylon agent&amp;quot;. And with you comment I am safe, that this dicision was adequate. Sorry for cannot beeing as precise as I would. But I am not a native english speaker. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:23, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Maybe its just me but i always loved the term [[Humano-Cylon]] ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:30, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not a problem! Looks like everything worked out. Also, bear in mind that the standards and conventions of the particular wiki should rule for its articles. That is to say, the German Wiki&#039;s standards and conventions should govern the articles at the German wiki. Don&#039;t let the [[BW:SC|English version]] restrict you at all. As long as you&#039;re consistent with your own rules there the German reader/editor will have a more standard/uniform experience. (Though you may want to update [[:de:Battlestar Wiki:Standards und Konventionen|that page ]] once you&#039;ve established new conventions). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:34, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;want to update that page&#039;&#039; At present we are just two translaters. And we are still going to built up the structere and translate the episodes and the most important characters. At this state such conventions are not the point. ;o) And the human cylons was until now the only point, what was a little problematic for me. Thus I wanted discuss this with the well-versed people here. And this was helpful :o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:55, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unseen cylon agent (miniseries) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the miniseries, Number Six mentions to Baltar that she is meeting someone (26:35 into the miniseries) when they are walking in public prior to the attack. She leaves Baltar and immediately meets with an unseen person (27:12), remarking &amp;quot;It&#039;s about time, wondered when you&#039;d get here&amp;quot;. This person can only be a cylon - but they never appear on screen. Who could it be?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Cfuxe|cfuse]] 06:48, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Anyone. It could also be just another very human bloke Six had contact with during her time on Caprica. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:10, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cylon naming and instancing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Cylons agents (including sleeper agents) appear to be able to distinguish different instances of the same cylon model from one and other without any difficulty. In Downloaded, &#039;Sharon&#039; seems to have no difficulty in identifying individual cylons apart, despite the fact that all cylons of a given model are visually identical. In addition, she is admonished for using her name because it is a vestige of her human identity and presumably redundant in cylon society.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Cfuxe|cfuse]] 06:57, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Honestly, we don&#039;t know how they do it, and I doubt that it&#039;ll ever be explained in the series. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:13, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Centurions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s been added that Cylon Centurions can&#039;t tell the difference between copies of the same model, but that&#039;s not what Adama said. He said that they can&#039;t tell one humanoid Cylon (ex: Sharon) apart from any other humanoid Cylon. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:51, 10 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A word about Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The entry about Number Three says, that &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;of all the Cylon agent models revealed to viewers, the Colonials are not yet aware that D&#039;anna Biers is a Cylon agent as of the season two finale, &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, c&#039;mon. In &amp;quot;Downloaded&amp;quot; D&#039;Anna, along with other Cylons, was clearly seen by Samuel Anders. In &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I&amp;quot; Anders arrives on Galactica - did you think that he hasn&#039;t told the others about what he saw on Caprica? The moment Anders was rescued by Starbuck&amp;amp;Co., the true identity of D&#039;Anna was no longer a secret (hence her presence on New Caprica).-- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 17:29, 17 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi, Spike. Aside from the article now being out of date, the specific clarification  you&#039;re missing is &amp;quot;of all the Cylon agents revealed to viewers, the &#039;&#039;members of [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]]&#039;&#039; are not aware that D&#039;anna Biers is a Cylon as of &amp;quot;Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II.&amp;quot;&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; members and her Fleet may still be unaware that the one named D&#039;Anna is a Cylon (but has likely received intel from their Raptor deployments in Season 3). Anders (although a Colonial) was not part of the Fleet until the end of LDYB and may have not seen the documentary that Biers created, thus not being able to inform the Fleet of yet another Cylon. It is likely that he does inform them; we as viewers aren&#039;t enlightened to this until the obvious events on New Caprica where all known agents are revealed to them. (Please be sure to sign your comments; place a couple of dashes and four tilde symbols (~). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:32, 17 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cylons as the Lords of Kobol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the 12 models of Cylon Agents, it seems possible that they represent the 12 Lords of Kobol.  Many of the models seem to have traits associated with the Olympians.  I’m not suggesting that the Cylons actually are the gods themselves, but copies of the gods.  They may or may not know that they represent the gods.  A list of the Olympians matches fairly well with what we know about some of the Cylons.  (In particular, the Number 6 / Aphrodite connection is almost undeniable.)  Some agents who we know less about (Simon, Cavil) are a looser fit.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Poseidon&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Sea.  Holds influence among the Olympians, but is greedy and quarrelsome.  -  Cavil?  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hades&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Underworld.  Unpitying, always in control of his domain.  Abducted a woman to be his wife – Leoben  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hera&#039;&#039;&#039;, Zeus’s wife.  Holds great influence, constantly schemes.  -  Number 3  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ares&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of War.  A brutal murderer, but also a coward.  -  Number 5  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;&#039;.  A fierce soldier and protector of her people.  -  Number 8  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Aphrodite&#039;&#039;&#039;, Goddess of Beauty.  Holds great power over men.  -  Number 6  ||  &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hephaestus&#039;&#039;&#039;, God of the Forge.  Skills are mental, and creation, not a fighter. - Simon&lt;br /&gt;
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This leaves Zeus, Hestia, Apollo, Hermes, and Artemis as the remaining unknown  Cylons.  Does anyone else think there may be something to this, or have better fits for some agents?  --[[User:PhoenixDreams|PhoenixDreams]] 14:24, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I&#039;ve definitely considered the possibility that the Cylon Models and the Lords of Kobol are intimately connected for quite a while. The problem always was that the Greek Pantheon did not neatly end up with a dozen gods, so there was a fair amount of guess work for the what the remaining Lords of Kobol were. For example, I doubt Hestia will be one of them: she&#039;s a fairly obscure goddess. Demeter or Dionysus are more likely candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
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: I really like some of the parallels you&#039;ve come up with though. Aphrodite=Six was always the fairly obvious one, and I&#039;ve considered Sharon as Athena. I quite like the parallels between Leoben and Hades. All of the other parallels you&#039;ve come up with work. It&#039;s just that without knowing all of the Lords of Kobol and all of the models, and what roles they will ultimately play, it&#039;s hard to say exactly how everyone fits. Sure, at the moment Number Six seems to obviously be the Aphrodite of the Cylons, but with her obsession with childbirth, I sometimes wonder if she&#039;s destined to be Artemis. Not that she&#039;s especially virginal. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 14:52, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be the 12 Gods of Kobol, or one for each of the 12 Colonies, which then of course suggests there may be a 13th secret model to correspond to Earth.  [[User:Yaneh|Yaneh]] 13:28, 15 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen in this picture http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000t5fg5 (presuming they are the final five) this makes out of 12 agents 5 female and 7 male....which match the gender mix of the 12 Lords of Kobol(presuming they match with their greek counterparts).&lt;br /&gt;
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Male - Zeus, Poseidon, Hephaestus, Ares, Hades, Hermes, Apollo&lt;br /&gt;
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Female - Athena, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Hestia --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 12:23, 11 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The 5 remaining agents == &lt;br /&gt;
I think it is apparent that the function of the 5 remaining agents is different from the function of the 7 known agents (my analysis) since the 7 seem to be making decisions on both New Caprica and on the basestar about Baltar and the other 5 are not.  Additionally, we have Aaron Douglas&#039;s speculation on their status and there is probably other evidence but I honestly haven&#039;t done any research on that.   Is there enough beef behind this line of reasoning to say that it&#039;s not speculation on my part and is worthy of putting SOMETHING on the article page?  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 21:18, 29 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s certainly speculation, and moreover, it&#039;s based on spoilers. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:25, 29 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, in truth we have a lot more information about the Cylons than we&#039;ve seen on the show, but since we&#039;ve received them in interviews they could be considered spoilery, and as such must be kept out. Which is sad really, because a lot of great Cylon things were left out because of timing constraints (How they eat, more of projection, etc...). These are things we have knowledge of because of interviews, but we can&#039;t include them because there&#039;s still the chance that they&#039;ve chosen to reveal it at another point in the show, later on, which would make whatever information received behind the curtain a possible spoiler. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 15:53, 11 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possibilities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if there is a non-humanoid sapient Cylon we haven&#039;t seen yet, maybe something too large to effectively move around (perhaps stuck on the Cylon homeworld that the Cylons disappeared to after the first Cylon war).  It could explain a number of things, including how the Cylon agents came into being -- perhaps they are a sort of iPod version of the non-humanoid sapient Cylons, fitting a technological sapience into a more convenient humanoid form.&lt;br /&gt;
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Centurions themselves nor their ships could not have been all there was to the Cylons in the days of the first Cylon war -- how could they rebel?  They simply follow orders and carry them out.  There must have been *something* or *someone* in those days to alter their programming if not have some sort of control seizure to make them rebel against the human Colonials.  It may have originally been some sort of central server-like system.&lt;br /&gt;
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Its just a wild idea, and probably not what the writers have in mind, but something like it could explain some of the seeming inconsistencies and plot holes.  Something completely different could also work, I suppose.  The Centurions certainly don&#039;t seem to have true sapience, and I doubt they have any religious conceptions.  --[[User:Itsua|Itsua]] 08:38, 9 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There&#039;s a lot we don&#039;t know about the Cylons past. However, it&#039;s been hinted at that the old Centurions had artifical intelligence, which allowed them to think independently. The new Cylon Centurions, however, don&#039;t have a true artificial intelligence since the Cylons themselves didn&#039;t want their own machines to rebel against them (this is established in &amp;quot;[[Precipice]]&amp;quot;, by the way). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:01, 9 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It seems improbable that the Cylons were originally &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; Centurions whom later created the Agents, unless the original Centurions were just as sapient (if not moreso) as the Agents.  I&#039;m hoping/guessing the origin of the Agents will be explored in future episodes, and perhaps Caprica will explain more of the Cylon origins.  --[[User:Itsua|Itsua]] 06:10, 11 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I got the distinct impression that the Centurions were originally true AIs and created the skinjobs over intermediate stages like the Raiders and Hybrids. But then the skinjobs - in a nice parallel to humanity - enslaved the Centurions and stripped them off most of their intelligence. As said all that is touched on in &amp;quot;Precipice&amp;quot; --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:22, 11 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Major Revision ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve made heavy reorganization and concisions to this article to make it easier to discern the nature of these characters. I&#039;ve removed data redundant with episode or character articles, and also removed a great deal of [[Battlestar Wiki:Fanwanking|fanwanking material]] that was introduced into the article. The article is still on the long side; further concision to reduce redundancies with other articles is appreciated. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:12, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origin of Cylon Agents ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article asserts, as fact, that the Cylon agents are the result of technological development by the previous Cylon models.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Is this conclusively established in the series so far?&lt;br /&gt;
: Stated? yes I believe it has. Proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? No. This is what we are lead to assume and is presumably what the cylons themselves believe. No other origin of the cylons has really been hinted at.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have suspected that the origin of the Cylon agents was likely the result of either a miraculous fluke or contact with another advanced intelligence — perhaps the Lords of Kobol, whatever the frak they were.  Perhaps even God, though it seems unlikely that He would involve Himself in the affairs of the world in such a literal manner (if He exists at all, which is an open question).&lt;br /&gt;
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If the Cylons have complete access to and understanding of the technology to create the agents, why are they limited to 12 models?&lt;br /&gt;
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: That&#039;s simply how many the designers of the humanoids built. Could the humanoids design more cylons. Sure. Could they recreate replicas of humans...potentially. The question isn&#039;t whether they could do it but SHOULD they do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was the plan of &amp;quot;God&amp;quot; to create those 12 models. To create more models would probably be seen as blasphemy. In essence it would put the cylons equal to God. The cylons assume God knew what he was doing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems they should have the ability to create additional models whenever they want to, the same way that they created the first 12.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if an attempt at this isn&#039;t made, met with failure and agreed to never be done again by the cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t think they want to create more models. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 19:04, 16 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, from what RDM said, the Cylons viewed humanity as only having twelve archetypes. There would need to be a serious change in Cylon society as a whole for ther(See: [[Cylon agent#Ron Moore elaborates on the twelve models]].)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Human names ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s been bugging me lately, but I was wondering about the use of their human names. Are they used solely for infiltration, or are these adopted names? On one hand, we have the Leobons, Cavils, and Simons whose numbers are unknown obviously because they&#039;ve yet to be called aloud by such. The other side is Six, who has used more than one human name (and I might add, is the only model who has yet to be assigned a specific name). There is also the Eights, only two of which have ever been named Sharon Valleri - one as a sleeper and the other using the name deliberately as part of an operation. Not to mention that Simon and Cavil don&#039;t even have full names. Can anyone elighten me on this issue? I see it&#039;s been touched upon here and there in this talk page, but nothing posted has given me a satisfactory answer. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:57, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In &amp;quot;The Eye of Jupiter&amp;quot; the Cylons used their human names among themselves. D&#039;Anna and Cavil, and I think Simon too. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:44, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Individuality is rare among the Cylons. To clarify Serenity, the human names are aliases common to a single model and appear to be used interchangably with their numbering. For Cavil, Leoben Conoy and Simon, the human names are the only names we know as they have not yet been assigned a number. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:03, 3 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This article should be renamed to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon model&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article tries to make the point that within the series all humanoid Cylons are called &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; which is not the case. While that term was used on screen, it was never intended to describe all humanoid Cylons, but only to characterize &#039;&#039;agents&#039;&#039;, i.e. Cylons who impersonate humans in the fleet. By season three we know more random Cylons than actual agents, therefore calling all of them &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; makes no sense to me at all. The term &amp;quot;humanoid model&amp;quot; is just as canon as Cylon agent (Adama uses it in Precipice: &amp;quot;Centurions can&#039;t distinguish her from the other humanoid models&amp;quot;) and it is much more appropriate to the show&#039;s reality. I suggest to rename this article either to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon model&amp;quot; or to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 10:07, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I don&#039;t care for its use as blanket term either. It should only be applied to infiltrators. While &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; can also refer to someone who acts on someone else&#039;s behalf, I think its meaning is that of a spy here. I&#039;m sure some will say that all skinjob models were used as infiltrators at some point, but we also distinguish individuals. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:22, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hi, Sloan. Just to add my two cents to this: Battlestar Wiki tends to use [[BW:TERM|descriptive terms]] where an official name for a person, place, or thing has not been established in episode dialogue. For a long time, &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; was used here for what we know as the Cylon agent. As you may have noted in the central article, there is a dossier shown in the episode, &amp;quot;Epiphanies&amp;quot; that gives the humanoid Cylons a canonical name, where then we changed the name. As well, the term &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot; is another word for &amp;quot;spy&amp;quot;, of which the agents (up until New Caprica&#039;s occupation) had done fairly well. While not all humanoid Cylons are working for the Cylons (note [[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Hera Agathon]], the name is short, easier to type than &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; and gives sufficient differentation from the other Cylon models. It is quite alright if you want to simply say &amp;quot;Cylon&amp;quot; when discussing these models; they are Cylon. But there seems little purpose, for the needs of simple categorization, between the old &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; term (which is a contraction of &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;) and the current &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; designation, to warrant a name change. See also the discussion on the first name change in this same talk page, above, for the rationale. Frankly, it is also far easier to type the current term. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:29, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t think &amp;quot;short and easier to type&amp;quot; can be relevant arguments really; accuracy should be most important and &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; is just confusing, especially since season three. Why would anyone call a random Cylon, let&#039;s say one on the Cylon homeworld, an &#039;&#039;agent&#039;&#039;? Interestingly, the policy page [[BW:TERM]] you referred to, and the first footnote of this article  both use the term &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; to describe what is really meant by &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;. So why not use this more accurate description in the first place, especially since it is also a canonical term. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 11:19, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; has become troublesome since the introduction of the baseship plot. If a move is required, I would prefer it to be a merge with Cylon (RDM), since the humanoid models are clearly the defaul type, with hybrids and centurions being identified explicitly. That being said, I also have no objection to leaving the article be, for the reasons Spencerian lays out above. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 11:03, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; is more for clearing up any confusion than to be an official name. If you want to talk about their real name, they should just be called &amp;quot;Cylons&amp;quot; like Peter said. They are (as he said), the default, they are the Cylon, the people, the race, the main thing. So yeah, I&#039;m in the same thinking area as Peter. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 12:38, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why don&#039;t we just create redirects from [[Humano-Cylon]] (already exists), [[Humanoid Cylon]], etc. to this page? Keeps everyone happy... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 14:09, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::But it&#039;s also a matter of all other pages calling them &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot;, and a redirect won&#039;t change that. Sure, it&#039;s &amp;quot;just&amp;quot; a descriptive term, but has become the de-facto official name in &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; cases here. However, while its widespread use is somewhat annoying (to me), I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an urgent problem either --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:14, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, if we were to rename it would be to &amp;quot;Cylon&amp;quot;, because that&#039;s their actual name, but &amp;quot;Cylon Agent&amp;quot; clears any doubts that a reader may have, so I&#039;m alright if we leave it as it is, but would prefer if we merged it with &amp;quot;Cylon (RDM)&amp;quot;--[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 14:30, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Since the central [[Cylons (RDM)]] article is really just an introduction (with data a bit redundant to the other articles on the specific models), a merge of [[Cylon agent]] with that article would satisfy the the point the the humanoid Cylons are the dominant Cylons. The Cylon agent article will need to have a bit of fat taken off of it to keep the article small. &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; and current redirects will move to Cylons (RDM).  This change also prevents A LOT of rewriting as we did with the last name change. &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; should still be the referenced name for the humanoids, but their article can become the central article. Sound like a good plan? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:26, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sounds very good to me. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 16:48, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If the content of this article is just moved into &amp;quot;[[Cylons (RDM)]]&amp;quot; and the humanoid Cylons remain &amp;quot;Cylon agents&amp;quot; nothing changes essentially. I don&#039;t see the point. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 17:18, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ditto. I can see where some stuff from this article can go into [[Cylons (RDM)]], but because [[Cylons (RDM)]] is a &amp;quot;series front page&amp;quot;, I don;t see how we can include information about the different models. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:25, 14 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The logic is, rather than using a complex term to describe something simple, we make the humanoid Cylon as &amp;quot;THE&amp;quot; dominant Cylon by placing their data at the forefront article. We add supplementary links to the other models that, in effect, serve them (Centurions, Raiders, Hybrids). So, [[Cylons (RDM)]] is the de facto &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; article (where any use of Cylon agent goes to this page). This article has the main content of this article, truncates the summary listing of the specific agents, and summarizes other models as well (with forwarding links to their articles, as does [[Cylon Models]]. The purpose of this is to rename without renaming; current redirects remain acceptable to use because, regardless of what we feel, &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; is still a canonical term and should remain, but anyone searching for new Cylon data will see the agents first. The change also increases the obvious importance of this model. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 06:51, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::But that&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039;&#039; besides the point. The point being made was that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; only refers to the infiltrators. It was used on the show, but not as a general term for &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; humanoid Cylons. Yes, it&#039;s an easy term, but as used here not entirely correct. A move would only make sense - especially in regards to the point being made here - if we stop refering to, for example Sharon Agathon, as &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;, because she isn&#039;t one. Not anymore at least. Though I agree that there isn&#039;t one ideal term for them; one that&#039;s readily apparent to everyone --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:50, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: I agree. The point here is that &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; no longer applies to some of the humanoid Cylons. The suggestion that the humanoid Cylons should be the dominant Cylon make sense, as they are, but we should best refer to them as &amp;quot;humanoid Cylons&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;human-form Cylons&amp;quot;. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I like the term Humanoid Cylons. It makes sense logically in the absence of an official name. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:17, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::As I pointed out above, the term &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; wouldn&#039;t be entirely uncanonical, Adama called them &amp;quot;humanoid models&amp;quot; in Precipice; maybe there are more instances where the term was used.. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 11:28, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::&amp;lt;joke&amp;gt;We could just call them &amp;quot;Skinjobs&amp;quot;. That&#039;s the easiest and most correct term&amp;lt;/joke&amp;gt; --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:46, 16 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::The [[Hybrid]]s are also technically humanoid cylons, but I don&#039;t see anything wrong with moving the &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; and adding a brief mention of the Hybrids. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:22, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll edit the article to change most instances of &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; later, or remove it when it&#039;s not necessary. Just skimming over the article, I really hate how it&#039;s used as a general term for all Cylons. I don&#039;t think that was ever the intention of the writers. Good thing we changed it :)&lt;br /&gt;
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Btw, the archive links at the top of this talk page are broken now! --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:28, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The bot right now is going through and doing as mass replace. The only thing that we have to do, is change a few other articles that started with Cylon agent. You can see it&#039;s progress by filtering in the bot changes. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:38, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, I thought it only fixed the links. However it replaces everything with &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; as if it were a proper noun :s --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:47, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would still suggest to change the character template to &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon&amp;quot;, because it should be obvious that every Cylon with a &#039;&#039;character&#039;&#039; template is of humanoid form. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 09:48, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:19, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:43, 4 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Move&amp;quot; consensus ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok.. i think we done enough debating, while it can still go on, I suggest we look for a consensus. Here are the choices... [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It seems that we&#039;ve reached a consensus. Is there a certain amount of time that we have to wait before making the change? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 09:37, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The wiki&#039;s managing with the post-episode slowdowns that interrupt a large edit like this. During the off hours, we should be better able to effect the changes. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:09, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m renaming and having the [[User:InterBot]] do the changes tomorrow. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:25, 2 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
; Move to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:17, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:22, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} A redirect from &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; would also be an option if you don&#039;t want to change all references --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:39, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
#:The &amp;quot;Move&amp;quot; functionality automagically creates a redirect to the new location at the old name. We&#039;d just have to check for double redirects (which is easy with the [[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double Redirects page]]). {{unsigned|Steelviper}}&lt;br /&gt;
#:The reason for the two different things is because here we are saying that we are going to hunt for all the &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; links and change them to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;. [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:16, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. The character template should also be changed from &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon agent&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;(blank) is a Cylon&amp;quot; [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 12:52, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{neutral}}. &amp;quot;Humano-Cylon&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; have very little difference semantically--at least until all Cylons return to their default badness. Either way, since redirects already exist for this change, it&#039;s really a default adjustment that I can support either way &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/deckchairsontitanicrearrange&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:08, 15 January 2007 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. Though I would prefer if the name were simply &amp;quot;Cylons (RDM)&amp;quot;, I do think that &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot; is an improvement. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 17:52, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. For the reasons above (Cylon agent only applies to those who are infiltrators, etc.) Also agree with Sloan&#039;s suggestion regarding the character template. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}}. Sure, although I do agree with Spence re:humano-cylon. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 22:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{support}} --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]]&lt;br /&gt;
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; Move to &amp;quot;Humanoid model&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Split and Merge into both [[Cylons (RDM)]] and &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Keep &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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; Make &amp;quot;Cylon agent&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;Humanoid Cylon&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Term &amp;quot;significant seven&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;ve used various names for the original faction of 7 Cylons seen in the show.  RDM revealed that the internal writer&#039;s term for them is the &amp;quot;significant seven&amp;quot; (a pun on the movie title) so I got the impression we try to use the internal terms rather than trying to make up a term, but I&#039;ve seen edits in both directions.  Likewise the term &amp;quot;final five&amp;quot; which is actually used in scripts (though I have always though it odd as a term the 7 would use for themselves.)  If people don&#039;t like the writer&#039;s term we should standardize on one term which may even get a page -- first seven, original seven, &amp;quot;the seven,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;genocidal seven&amp;quot; etc.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 02:42, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: We try to use the same terms that the writers use, more often than not. So, yes, &amp;quot;Significant Seven&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;Final Five&amp;quot; should be the terms we use -- until something better comes along. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:09, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. I&#039;ve updated the page with the reference in the &amp;quot;Final five&amp;quot; section (where its most germane) and created a redirect for any uses of &amp;quot;Significant seven&amp;quot; to go to that section. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:30, 21 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Listing death of Cylon humanoids?==&lt;br /&gt;
I was under the impression that Cylons can&#039;t die unless they can&#039;t resurrect.  Death is permanent, is it not?  The &amp;quot;Death&amp;quot; listings are only destructions of the body, not of the mind.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, only those that didn&#039;t resurrect after suffering bodily destruction are dead.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Elder Scrolls fantasy universe, the Daedra are a group of higher beings immune to death in a similar manner (though not reliant on some apparatus for resurrection).  They are not considered &amp;quot;killed&amp;quot; when they suffer destruction of their corporeal form, but are called &amp;quot;Banished&amp;quot;, because of their immunity to death.&lt;br /&gt;
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I propose that individual cylon humanoids have &amp;quot;death&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;resurrection&amp;quot; made separate from each other, as they don&#039;t truly die unless they can&#039;t resurrect upon loss of their body.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Sharon Agathon</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article concerns the second [[Number Eight]] Cylon that falls in love with [[Helo]] and becomes a Colonial officer with the callsign of &amp;quot;Athena.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For information on the &amp;quot;sleeper agent&amp;quot; with the callsign of &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot;, see [[Sharon Valerii]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For information on the [[Original Series]] character with a similar name, see [[Athena (TOS)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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    |children= [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] (Human-Cylon hybrid)&lt;br /&gt;
    |marital status= Married to [[Karl Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
    |role= Colonial Officer on battlestar &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
    |rank= Lieutenant (Junior Grade)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon &amp;quot;Athena&amp;quot; Agathon&#039;&#039;&#039; is a copy of the [[humanoid Cylon]] model [[Number Eight]] who is first encountered by [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]], when he is stranded on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]]. She is initially assigned to seduce him by impersonating Lieutenant [[Sharon Valerii]], as part of a Cylon cross-breeding experiment, but later turns against her people and helps him escape the planet; pregnant with his child during that time. Helo, first shocked by her true nature, ultimately accepts her as the mother of his child and declares his love for her.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, she is imprisoned and long seen as a mere object. She frequently provides intelligence, but is severely mistreated by an interrogator from &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; who beats and sexually assaults her. Over time, she earns Admiral [[William Adama|Adama&#039;s]] trust by helping the [[Colonial Fleet]] escape peril several times, and she is eventually appointed as a Colonial Officer and marries Karl Agathon. Agathon gives birth on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, but her daughter, [[Hera]], is subsequently hidden from her, because President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] considers the baby a threat to the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]]. Agathon believes Hera to be dead for more than a year, but after learning the truth about her child during a confrontation with Valerii, she is able to regain her daughter from the Cylons with the help of [[Caprica-Six]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Biography ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Cylon cross-breeding experiment on Caprica === &lt;br /&gt;
Sharon is a [[Number Eight]] model first seen on [[Caprica]] shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] and the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] decide to use her in an elaborate experiment focused on [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]] who is stranded on the planet. She is an identical copy of Helo&#039;s friend and colleague Lieutenant [[Sharon Valerii]] and the Cylons hope to explore the possibilities of Cylon-human procreation by getting Helo to fall in love with her ([[The Farm]]). Sharon appears to Helo to rescue him after he is captured by a [[Number Six|Six]] and several [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]]. Unaware that Cylons have developed human models, Helo believes her to be Sharon Valerii from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, returning to rescue him ([[33]]). Following this staged rescue, she leads Helo to a Raptor, now surrounded by Cylon Centurions, and convinces him that they have no direct way off the planet ([[Water]]). Sharon is able to impersonate Lieutenant Valerii convincingly, since she has accessed Valerii&#039;s memories at least up until the point of Helo being left behind on Caprica ([[Flesh and Bone]], [[Scattered]], [[Home, Part II]], [[Flight of the Phoenix]], [[Scar]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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After receiving a feigned Colonial signal on a radio receiver they carry, Sharon leads Helo to a city where they find a fully-equipped fallout shelter in which two people can live in reasonable security, hidden from above-ground Cylon operations, and with sufficient supplies to last a considerable period of time ([[Act of Contrition]]). The purpose in establishing this retreat is to elicit an emotional response in Helo towards his Cylon companion. When this fails and Helo continues to seek a way off Caprica, the Cylons lead him to believe that Sharon has been captured, concluding that if Helo does not seek to rescue her, the experiment has failed and he must be killed ([[You Can&#039;t Go Home Again]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Helo does undertake a successful rescue attempt and shortly after, the two of them have sex for the first time in a nearby forest. Helo had always been fond of the original Valerii on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, but his affection for her was stilled by her relationship with Chief [[Galen Tyrol]] ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]). Pleased with the progress, the Cylons set up a new hideout, a cabin in the woods, and Sharon is instructed to lead him there and have him stay with her – or kill him, if he attempts to leave ([[Flesh and Bone]]). But she begins to question the Cylons&#039; overall goal. Realizing that she has herself fallen in love with Helo, Sharon disobeys her instructions and leads Helo to [[Delphi]], where they hope to steal a vehicle and get off the planet ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]). On their way to Delphi, she shows signs of being pregnant, succumbing to a bout of morning sickness ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]) and developing a ravenous appetite ([[Colonial Day]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Revelation of her true identity and arrival at the Fleet ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Boomerhelokara.jpg|235px|left|[[Helo]] attempts to stop Lt. [[Kara Thrace|Thrace]] from shooting Sharon, in the [[Delphi Museum]].|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
On reaching Delphi, Sharon and Helo break into the Cylon facilities to gain access to the spaceport. But as Helo encounters yet another [[Number Eight]] model, he draws the initial conclusion that Sharon is a human clone created by the Cylons and goes on the run alone ([[Colonial Day]]). When Sharon catches up with him, she tried to calm him down and eventually challenges him to shoot her, after he tells her to stay away ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]). Helo can only bring himself to wound her, and he takes Sharon with him to use her in some way to get off Caprica.  While Helo keeps her at gunpoint, Sharon leads him to the [[Delphi Museum]].  Waiting out a storm in a nearby ruined building, she explains to him that she is “Sharon”, not a mere clone or a copy, and that she is as real as [[Sharon Valerii]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. She also tells him that her love for him is real and that she is pregnant with his child.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Sharon and Helo come across Lieutenant [[Kara Thrace]] who has landed near the museum to retrieve the [[Arrow of Apollo]], Thrace realizes on-sight that Sharon is a Cylon (having left Valerii behind on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;) and she attempts to shoot her. Helo stops Thrace and reveals to her that Sharon is pregnant with his child ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II]]). Thrace also wrongly concludes that she must be a Cylon copy of the real Valerii on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;; Sharon&#039;s attempts to explain her identity to her are unsuccessful. While Thrace and Helo argue over her, Sharon escapes in Thrace&#039;s [[Cylon Raider]] to save herself and the life of her unborn child ([[Scattered]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Several days later, Sharon returns to Helo who is now with a human [[Caprica Resistance|resistance movement]] that has formed on Caprica.  She offers her help in finding Thrace who was abducted during a Cylon ambush ([[The Farm]]). Thrace manages to escape to the outside of the hospital where she was imprisoned and Sharon arrives at the rescue scene in a stolen Cylon [[Heavy Raider]], destroying several [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]] that attack the Resistance rescue party. Following the successful rescue, Sharon accompanies Helo and Thrace on their way back to the human [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] in the Heavy Raider. &lt;br /&gt;
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When they arrive at the Fleet and Sharon walks aboard the &#039;&#039;[[Astral Queen]]&#039;&#039;, Captain [[Lee Adama]] reacts violently. The son of Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] who was shot by the Cylon &amp;quot;sleeper&amp;quot; agent Valerii grabs her and places his gun to her head. Helo draws his sidearm against Adama, forcing a standoff. President [[Laura Roslin]] urges both men to withdraw their weapons, but then immediately orders Sharon to be ejected out an airlock. Sharon tells Roslin she knows the location of the [[Tomb of Athena]], an ancient place Roslin is trying to find, and she reconsiders, placing Sharon in the brig. Roslin later explains that she suspects Sharon is willing to cooperate, because she wants to protect Helo and her unborn child, something Roslin interprets as a mothering instinct.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Guide on Kobol ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:sharonhome.jpg|235px|Sharon on Kobol, with [[Helo]], Priestess [[Elosha]] and President [[Roslin]].|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
Sharon accompanies [[Laura Roslin|Roslin&#039;s]] party to [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]. She recites specific passages of the [[Tomb of Athena]] in the scriptures of the [[Sacred Scrolls]] and plots the group&#039;s path on the planet. On their way they are ambushed by [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]] who open fire. As the others take cover and return fire, Sharon vaults away, with Captain [[Lee Adama|Adama]] in pursuit, believing she is trying to escape. Sharon picks up a grenade launcher lying ahead, and as Adama thinks she is about to shoot him, she aims for the remaining Centurion and destroys it ([[Home, Part I]]). At camp, Adama voices suspicions about Helo who still loves Sharon, despite his awareness of her true nature as a Cylon. During the trek, Sharon casually tells Helo that their child is a girl. &lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly after, Commander [[William Adama|Adama’s]] search party arrives at Roslin&#039;s camp. When Adama sees Sharon who exactly resembles the Cylon who shot him, he immediately tries to choke her to death. He is forced to release her, after Sharon touches his fresh wound, leaving  him with severe chest pain. During their struggle, Sharon enigmatically references what Adama said over [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon Valerii’s]] dead body, saying “and you asked why” aloud.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, one of [[Tom Zarek|Tom Zarek&#039;s]] followers, [[Meier]], tries to convince Sharon to help him kill both Adamas, as part of a plan to gain control of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]]. Sharon initially believed that Sharon Valerii was being held in the [[brig]], but Meier informs her that she was killed.  She expresses her outrage to Helo that [[Cally]] received only a minor punishment for this murder.  Sharon deduces that the Colonials do not see humanoid Cylons as  people and that she must take matters into her own hands to prove her trustworthiness. Sharon appears to take up Meier&#039;s proposal to kill both Commander Adama and Captain Adama, but as Meier draws his weapon, she kills him instead, saving the lives of both Adamas.  She announces to Commander Adama that she is not the same Cylon who shot him, and that she has no hidden protocols waiting to be activated; she makes her own choices.  She then surrenders her weapon to Adama and successfully leads them to the Tomb of Athena.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Cooperation with the human Fleet ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Valerii_virus.jpg|thumb|170px|left|Sharon connected to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; main [[Computers|computer]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Sharon is brought aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and imprisoned in a new reinforced cell that was originally designed to incarcerate [[Sharon Valerii]].  The virtual [[Number Six]] tells Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] that Sharon&#039;s baby will be born in that cell and that the child belongs to Baltar and her ([[Home, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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During her imprisonment, Sharon nearly has a miscarriage, and is brought to [[sickbay]] where Dr. [[Cottle]] succeeds in saving the fetus.  A [[Number Three]] model who poses as the reporter [[D&#039;anna Biers]] in the [[Fleet News Service]], stumbles upon Sharon while filming a documentary on board &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and she manages to send footage of Sharon back to Caprica. The Cylons are surprised, yet overjoyed, that Sharon is still alive. They are concerned that her hybrid child survives; saying that it must be protected at all costs ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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When &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; experiences mysterious computer failures and system malfunctions from a mutated version of a Cylon virus, Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] orders Helo to show the incarcerated Sharon the strange Cylon code. Sharon identifies it as a virulent [[logic bomb]] that will take control of the ship and kill off the crew without her help. Reluctantly, on advice from President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]], Adama brings Sharon to [[CIC]], where she cuts her arm open and [[Cylon data port|connects herself to a fiber optic data line]] to communicate with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; mainframe [[Computers|computer]]. On accessing the computer, she takes into her a portion of the logic bomb code, and then instructs Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] to wipe the system&#039;s hard drives to erase all Cylon virus traces.  As the crew restarts the ship’s computers, a massive Cylon fighter force jumps into range, leaving &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; defenseless. Sharon makes adjustments to the code and transmits the altered virus from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to the Cylons, [[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot|disabling]] the entire fleet of Cylon fighters ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Interrogation and abuse ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Pegasus-Thorne_Boomer.jpg|235px|Sharon is beaten and sexually assaulted during an interrogation by Lt. [[Alastair Thorne|Thorne]].|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
After &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; reunites with battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, Admiral [[Helena Cain]] sends Lieutenant [[Alastair Thorne]] to inspect the incarcerated Sharon. He beats and sexually assaults her with the help of several of his guards. Helo and Chief [[Tyrol]] find out about Thorne and what was done to his previous [[Gina|prisoner]], and they arrive in time to stop him, but Tyrol accidentally kills Thorne in the process. Both Tyrol and Helo are arrested by the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; guards and taken to Admiral Cain&#039;s battlestar, where Cain hastily convenes courts-martial for them, sentencing both to death ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Sharon&#039;s attempted rape results in a hairline fracture in one of her ribs and minor bruising. Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] who has reached a détente with Admiral Cain over Helo and Tyrol&#039;s execution personally apologizes to Sharon over the incident; this is also the first time that Adama refers to Sharon as &amp;quot;her,&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;it.&amp;quot; Later, Adama asks to speak with her in private, questioning her why the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] hate humanity. She responds by reminding him of a speech he gave before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attacks]], in which he suggested that humanity is a flawed creation, and she implies that therefore humanity might not deserve to survive. Sharon is later reunited with Helo and Tyrol when the two are released after Cain&#039;s death, as Adama resumes full command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Weeks later, President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]], on her deathbed, orders that Sharon&#039;s fetus be aborted, fearing the baby might be dangerous for the Fleet. On hearing this news, Sharon is enraged, having cooperated fully to aid the Fleet to save herself and her child, and to show that not all Cylons are dangerous. Marines are sent to take her to [[sickbay]] to forcibly perform the abortion procedure. At the last minute, Dr. [[Baltar]] learns that the fetal blood of Sharon&#039;s baby has the ability to destroy cancer cells.  He takes  a small blood sample and injects it into the dying Roslin; moments later, her cancer disappears. The abortion procedure is cancelled ([[Epiphanies]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite her mistreatment, Sharon continues to support the Fleet and provides intelligence. She helps Captain [[Kara Thrace|Thrace]] to understand the behavior of [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]] ([[Scar]]), and frequently assists Admiral Adama to plot the Fleet&#039;s course in order to avoid Cylon confrontation. Colonel [[Tigh]] remains extremely skeptical of her increased involvement ([[Sacrifice]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth of her daughter Hera===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sharondownloaded.jpg|170px|thumb|left|[[Helo]] comforts Sharon, as Dr. [[Cottle]] start to perform an emergency birth procedure.]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Sharon begins to bleed due to a detached placenta, Dr. [[Cottle]] performs an emergency birth procedure to save both her and the baby&#039;s life. Sharon and Helo name the baby girl [[Hera]]. After her parents believe Hera is out of danger, the baby apparently dies due to her underdeveloped lungs and Dr. Cottle&#039;s failure to intubate her in time. Sharon, suspecting her child was killed deliberately, nearly strangles Dr. Cottle before being subdued, and she subsequently falls into a deep depression.  &lt;br /&gt;
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However, unbeknownst to Sharon and Helo, Hera is still alive. President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] who still considers the child a danger for the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] had Sharon&#039;s baby switched with the body of a dead child and, with the help of Dr. Cottle and her aide [[Tory Foster]], places Hera in the care of [[Maya]], a foster mother.  Maya is told a cover story that disguises Hera&#039;s true identity ([[Downloaded]]). Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] is not informed of Roslin&#039;s plan ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Sharon&#039;s depression over losing her child worsens and Helo convinces her to aid in the rescue of [[Samuel Anders]] and other survivors on [[Caprica]], in part to try and draw her out of her depression. Sharon&#039;s knowledge of Cylon [[FTL]] technology makes the rescue possible. She acts as a conduit between the Colonial Raptors and the far more advanced FTL computer salvaged from the Cylon Heavy Raider she once brought back to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On Caprica, Captain [[Kara Thrace|Thrace]] demonstrates a new level of trust for Sharon by handing her a gun during a firefight with ambushing [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]]. Later, Sharon is as perplexed as everyone else when the Cylons disengage and apparently leave the planet. She is aware, however, that [[Cavil]], a man who approaches the group and loudly proclaims the end of the occupation to be a miracle, is a [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]]. On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Cavil is exposed by Chief [[Tyrol]], and Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] sends Sharon back to the brig. When asked by a distraught Helo why she did not mention that Cavil is Cylon, she replies &amp;quot;They killed my baby. Do you think I care about you, or us, or whether or not Adama trusts me anymore?&amp;quot; Sharon withdraws further, shutting Helo out completely ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Officer of the Colonial Fleet===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Season 3 - Promo - Epi 1 - 2 - C-Number Eight, Adama, Helo.jpg|235px|Sharon Agathon is commissioned as a Colonial Officer.|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
More than a year later, and four months after &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;s&#039;&#039; retreat from [[New Caprica]], Sharon Agathon is now married to Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon. In the year that has passed, Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] has taken Sharon into his confidence and the two periodically sit down to tea; her cell now has a couch, a table, and other amenities ([[Occupation]]). Adama commissions Agathon into the [[Colonial Fleet]] as a Lieutenant (Junior Grade). In her first mission, Agathon leads an insertion force that will serve as a liaison between the [[New Caprica Resistance]] and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; during the extraction of the New Caprica population. She commands two Raptors in an intra-atmosphere jump and links up with [[Samuel Anders]] and his squad at the [[Breeders Canyon]]. Their planning is interrupted when [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]] ambush their position ([[Precipice]]). Agathon and her assigned Marines anticipated enemy contact, so the Marines, from a supporting position, can neutralize the Cylon attackers. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the following day, Agathon covertly enters the Cylon [[New Caprica Detention Center|detention center]] to recover the [[launch key|launch keys]] for the grounded Colonial ships, bypassing human and Centurion guards that cannot distinguish Agathon from other Eights. After interfacing with a [[Datastream|data terminal]] and obtaining the keys, a [[Number Three]] enters the room and challenges her loyalty.  The Three tells her that [[Hera]] is still alive, but Agathon rejects the notion, shoots the Three in each leg to slow her eventual report back to other Cylons.  When she hands over the launch keys to Chief [[Tyrol]], she asks him if he had actually seen Hera&#039;s ashes, which he affirms ([[Exodus, Part I]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the Agathons and many other pilots eat in the mess hall. After [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] addresses Agathon as &amp;quot;Boomer,&amp;quot; Helo asks the crew for suggestions for a more appropriate callsign. A number of humorous and affectionate responses, including &amp;quot;Chrome-dome&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Raptor Adaptor&amp;quot; arise, reflecting Agathon&#039;s grown trust and comfort amongst the human crew, but Helo opts for [[Hot Dog]]&#039;s suggestion, &amp;quot;Athena&amp;quot; ([[Torn]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Agathon undertakes a solo recon mission through a high radiation cluster to look for a planet with suitable material to replenish the Fleet&#039;s lost food supplies. Agathon&#039;s Cylon physiology withstands radiation levels that would have killed a human, although not without some discomfort. The successful mission confirms the foodstuffs on [[algae planet|a planet with algae]] and gives needed data to safely attempt the guide the Fleet ([[The Passage]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Reunification with her child ===&lt;br /&gt;
During a stand-off at the [[Algae planet]], a Cylon delegation boards &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to negotiate for the [[Eye of Jupiter]]. Agathon, near the conference area, instantly identifies the Eight from the baseship delegation as &amp;quot;Boomer. [[Sharon Valerii|Valerii]] tells Agathon that her daughter, [[Hera]], is still alive and also notes President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin&#039;s]] involvement in her daughter&#039;s disappearance. After confirming the matter with Roslin, Admiral Adama informs Agathon that Hera&#039;s death was indeed fabricated without his knowledge. Agathon angrily demands to see her child. ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Agathon convinces Helo that the only way to rescue Hera is for her to [[download]] to the Cylon fleet and infiltrate the [[basestar]] where Hera is kept. Reluctantly, Helo agrees to shoot her and Agathon is subsequently downloaded and resurrected on the nearby [[Resurrection Ship|resurrection ship]] where she is greeted by [[Caprica-Six]] upon rebirth. Agathon pretends that she wants to stay with the Cylons and Caprica-Six leads her to Hera. Her daughter is ill and apparently rejecting Valerii who has been taking care of the child on board the Cylon vessel. Following Agathon&#039;s demand that Hera needs to see a human doctor, Valerii threatens to kill Hera, but Caprica-Six intervenes and kills Valerii instead. Accompanied by Caprica-Six, Agathon and her daugther leave the basetar in a captured Raptor and return to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; ([[Rapture]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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When Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] and his wife [[Cally]] are trapped in an airlock with a quickly decreasing oxygen supply, Agathon pilots a Raptor to conduct a rescue attempt. She positions her Raptor directly outside the airlock and is able to take in both the Tyrols, when they are pulled into open space after the airlock is deliberately opened as a last resort. ([[A Day in the Life]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Several weeks later Agathon is assigned to fly Major [[Adama]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]&#039;s new defense attorney [[Romo Lampkin]] to &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039; to retrieve documents needed for the up-coming trial. Before take off, a remote-detonation bomb attached to the Raptor&#039;s ventral hull is fortuitously discovered. Specialist Cally brings up Agathon&#039;s name and indirectly asserts she is the the unknown bomber. When confronted by Agathon, Cally denies making such an accusation, though Agathon goes on to note how she did not accuse Cally despite equal circumstantial evidence implicating her. Agathon points out Cally&#039;s deep hatred for all Cylons and hands over her sidearm, challenging Cally to shoot her. When she fails to pull the trigger, Agathon grabs the gun back and threatens to kill Cally if it is discovered she was responsible for the bomb on her ship. It is later revealed that the explosive was the work of fellow &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; officer Captain [[Aaron Kelly|Kelly]] and was designed to kill Lampkin ([[The Son Also Rises]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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During the time of Baltar&#039;s trial, Agathon is experiencing mysterious dreams of President Roslin, Caprica-Six and her child Hera in the Kobol [[Opera House]]. She later finds out that both Roslin and Caprica-Six deal with the same  dreams, but their meaning remains unclear at first ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* This [[Number Eight]] is usually called &amp;quot;Sharon&amp;quot; and more recently &amp;quot;Athena&amp;quot;, while [[Sharon Valerii]] is often just called &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot;, as that callsign is closely associated with her. Until Season 3, this copy was referred to as the Caprica copy (&amp;quot;Caprica-Sharon&amp;quot;), because she was first encountered on Caprica.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Agathon&#039;s callsign, &amp;quot;Athena&amp;quot;, may be a reference to her nature as a Cylon, if the Colonists share the Greek myth that Pallas Athene sprung from the head of Zeus fully grown without ever having a childhood – much as a Cylon does.&lt;br /&gt;
* Athena is one of the [[Religion_in_the_Twelve_Colonies#The_Lords_of_Kobol|Lords of Kobol]].  In &amp;quot;[[Home, Part II]]&amp;quot;, Sharon relates the death of Athena on Kobol, &amp;quot;Athena [threw] herself down [from the Gates of Hera] onto the rocks below, out of despair over the Exodus of the thirteen tribes.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
* Her callsign also creates a parallelism with the [[Original Series]] character of [[Athena (TOS)|Athena]]. In the Original Series, Athena was the daughter of [[Adama (TOS)|Adama]]. In the Re-imagined Series, Agathon&#039;s relationship with Adama is very similar, as he develops a close fatherly bond to her.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Elosha&#039;&#039;&#039; is a priest who attends the decommissioning ceremonies for &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, and later presides over services within the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]]. She and President [[Laura Roslin]] become friends and confidants by means of a mutual spiritual awakening.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Gale and her readings of various scripts, Elosha had been a &amp;quot;wild child&amp;quot; and a &amp;quot;juvenile delinquent&amp;quot;, and as such was given a choice between reform school and the monastery. She chose the monastery, where they &amp;quot;do a lot of drugs&amp;quot;, i.e. [[Chamalla|chamalla]]. Elosha certainly knows the scriptures inside and out.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time of the [[Cylon Attack|Cylon attack]], Elosha is aboard &#039;&#039;[[Colonial Heavy 798]]&#039;&#039;, returning to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] with others who had attended the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; ceremonies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to a [http://scifitalk.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=18387 podcast conversation] with actress [[Lorena Gale]], Elosha had been on the [[Quorum of Twelve]] for some twenty years. She was present on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to &amp;quot;cut the tape&amp;quot; at the decommissioning ceremony.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When word came through that President [[Richard Adar]]&#039;s entire cabinet has been wiped out with the exception of [[Laura Roslin]], the Education Secretary, Elosha officiated at a swearing-in ceremony at which Roslin was made President of the Twelve Colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the Cylon attack, when the unified spaceborne survivors of the Colonies evade the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] for a time, Elosha presides over a funeral service aboard &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039; in memory of the ship&#039;s dead ([[Miniseries]]). At the time, with his crew suffering from shock and low morale, [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] gave his people cause for hope, enlisting Elosha&#039;s knowledge of the [[Sacred Scrolls]] and the legend of [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Elosha presides over the Service of the Dead following the loss of seven of the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; pilots in a freak accident during a celebration on the port [[hangar deck]] ([[Act of Contrition]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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While she did not reveal as much to others, Elosha was having a crisis of faith. While she was versed in the [[Sacred Scrolls|Scrolls]] and the history of the Thirteen Tribes of Kobol, she did not entirely believe in the truth of either ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Her faith undergoes a renewal when she is called to &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039; to speak with [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]]. Here she learns that Roslin is having visions, one of which may be linked directly to the writings of [[Pythia]], an ancient [[oracle]] ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Because of her knowledge of ancient history, and of the scriptures, Elosha becomes Roslin&#039;s confidante and spiritual advisor, and is able to help discern the meanings of Roslin&#039;s visions ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The process of becoming part of scripture apparently fulfilling itself is illuminating, albeit often disconcerting, to both.&lt;br /&gt;
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Elosha becomes the fourth person to know of Roslin&#039;s terminal illness ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]). This knowledge, combined with Elosha&#039;s knowledge of the &amp;quot;dying leader&amp;quot; prophesy, confirms to Elosha that Roslin was filling this role.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Home_pt1_mourning.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Roslin, et al. mourn the loss of Elosha on Kobol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Elosha accompanies Roslin (who escapes from incarceration on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; following her arrest in a military coup) on a Raptor piloted by [[Lee Adama]] as Roslin begins generating grassroots support for ships that want to join her search for the whereabouts of Earth using the resources of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[The Farm]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On the &#039;&#039;[[Astral Queen]]&#039;&#039;, while Roslin&#039;s crew discuss their plans to explore Kobol, the priest notes, according to the Scrolls, that [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|Zeus]] warns any return to Kobol would exact a price in blood.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, as Elosha examines an ancient gravestone marker on a discovered path towards the [[Gates of Hera]] and the [[Tomb of Athena]], she triggers an antipersonnel landmine left by [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]] and is killed instantly. Roslin takes Elosha&#039;s copy of the Sacred Scrolls as a memento and guide and continues her journey without her trusted friend ([[Home, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;both&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elosha was originally conceived as a male priest, whom [[Ron D. Moore]] and [[David Eick]] intended as a role for [[Richard Hatch]]. However, Hatch passed on the role.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=31|editor=ed. Adam &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot; Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scifitalk.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=18387 Podcast conversation] with Lorena Gale on Sci-Fi Talk (about 24 minutes, BSG talk near the beginning, no spoilers)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Galen_Tyrol/Archive_1&amp;diff=122271</id>
		<title>Talk:Galen Tyrol/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* But is his body a Cylon? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I was re-watching &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039; (which of course stars Edward James Olmos) and noticed that there&#039;s a character in it who&#039;s a mechanic named Tyrol. Makes you wonder...[[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 22:42, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Interesting... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll have to watch &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039; again and catch that... &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the name, somehow, came from that movie.  As some of the elements (such as the &amp;quot;replicants&amp;quot; theme and the weapons) were pretty much inspired by &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039;. [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 16:38, 15 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I remember hearing that Tricia Helfer based Number Six&#039;s behavior on the replicant woman Pris from &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039;, after having watched the movie for the first time the night before filming started.[[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 22:45, 15 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== First name? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When did Tyrol get a first name? ([[User:Alphaboi867|Alphaboi867]] 14:27, 22 Mar 2005 (EST))&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== From RDM ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The name comes from both the official Sci-Fi Channel BSG website and RDM&#039;s blog.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;s not been called by his first name, &amp;quot;Galen&amp;quot;, on the show itself.  At least not in the first season.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RDM does go on to state that Tyrol is the only one with a first name; Gaeta and Dualla don&#039;t have official first names yet.  --[[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:07, 22 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m wondering why he is refered to as Tyrol (such as in the episode guides) when most of the time, he is refered to as &#039;the chief&#039; or Chief petty officer (Tyrol). Boomer is refered to by her callsign, not Valerii.--[[User:Radicaledward|Radicaledward]] 03:09, 10 Aug 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Tyrol&#039;s Due For a Bitchslap==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After watching the first season 2 episode (&#039;&#039;[[Scattered]]&#039;&#039;) I realized that Tyrol really loses it when other lives or their reputations are in danger. Guarantee that he is going to get flak as well as serious scrutiny when he returns to the ship with the truth of Boomer revealed. He really needs some rational control and see the big picture of things, and also let his crew make mistakes rather than react carelessly. Brilliant chief, but not the brightest. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 02:06, 16 Jul 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Union Meeting Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We really need to get a screencap of him during the union speech. --[[User:Deadlygopher|Deadlygopher]] 22:29, 15 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Highest Ranking NCO ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where in the show did it say that he was the senior NCO? I thought I heard it on the show too, but I&#039;d just like to know for sure. If he is the most senior NCO, could this mean there&#039;s only one Chief on the Galactica or that he may actually be a Senior or Master Chief and that there are other &amp;quot;lesser&amp;quot; Chief Petty Officers in the ship?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can&#039;t imagine the Galactica having a one-man goat locker, but then again it&#039;s a fictional military, not the US Navy. Either any of that or I&#039;m just missing something ;) --[[User:Marty4286|Marty4286]] 03:01, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:They stated in the Miniseries that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is not a normal ship; it&#039;s about to be decomissioned.  It&#039;s only got about half of it&#039;s full crew compliment (2,600 as opposed to 5,000).  A normal ship might have more, but as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is about to be decomissioned and not running at full capacity, Tyrol is the Chief Petty Officer and highest ranking NCO.  I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a Master Chief but that&#039;s simply a formality of rank; he&#039;s still the highest ranking guy on the ship.  Meanwhile, in &amp;quot;[[Litmus]]&amp;quot; Adama stated that he is the highest ranking NCO.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:08, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, he doesn&#039;t say EXACTLY that...:&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;You&#039;re the most experienced non-commissioned officer we have left.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::Experience does not always equal rank (especially if you&#039;re not willing to play politics). However, it at least provides time-in-grade within a rank. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:14, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Married?==&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t recall them saying that Cally and Chief were married?  All I remember was that Cally was pregnant at the end of 2x20.  That doesn&#039;t mean marriage.  Was there a piece of dialogue I missed maybe?  If so, please add it to the article using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
: He&#039;s married. This is confirmed in the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]] webisodes, particularly the second one when Tyrol and [[Jammer]] attempt to recruit [[Tucker Clellan]] a.k.a. &amp;quot;Duck&amp;quot;. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:47, 13 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ok, I just rewatched it and he said that he had a wife and kid.  I will add a reference.  Can you give me the names of the other two characters in that scene?  I don&#039;t know who they are.  thanks.  --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 20:50, 13 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::They are Jammer and Duck. :) --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 20:51, 13 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Callsign/Nickname? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Um, no, &amp;quot;Chief&amp;quot; is neither a callsign nor nickname.  It&#039;s usually how Sailors in the USN shorten the rank of Chief Petty Officer.  If Galen were a Senior Chief Petty Officer, they&#039;d be calling him &amp;quot;Senior&amp;quot;, or if he were a Petty Officer First Class (or Second or Third Class, for that matter), he&#039;d be &amp;quot;Petty Officer&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The fact is, he has no call sign or nickname (that I&#039;m aware of), and as Sailors are wont to do, they&#039;re just referring to him by his rank out of habit.  I&#039;m strongly tempted to remove it, unless anyone has any objections.--&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#4b0082&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Mitsukai|み使い]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#2f4f4f&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User_talk:Mitsukai|Mitsukai]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; 11:32, 9 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;ve addressed this, as I agree that it isn&#039;t a callsign. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:40, 9 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:None. Smite it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:30, 9 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Guest Cast ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see as I pore over a number of the episodes, Tyrol (and Cally) are listed as guest cast members and not part of the regular cast. In Cally&#039;s case, I&#039;d say that&#039;s appropriate as she sometimes didn&#039;t have speaking lines in season two, and did not appear in every episode in season one either. So absolultey - list her every appearance. But in Tyrol&#039;s case, he&#039;s got a beefier role, and he&#039;s appeared in all but two or three episodes. Anyway, I thought that was kind of strange. Also, the guest cast lists are inconsistent - it&#039;s &amp;quot;Galen Tyrol&amp;quot; for some listings and the longer CPO Galen Tyrol for other listings. Personally I would prefer the shorter listing as the Tyrol page lists his rank there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==But is his body a Cylon?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is Tyrol&#039;s body really a cylon?  What if this whole &amp;quot;Final Five&amp;quot; bit is more metaphysical; five spirits/souls/whatever disagreeing with the other seven, thus splitting off and going their own way, or something like that?  What we&#039;ve heard of his history seems a whole lot more intricate than a fabricated Cylon memory (like his teen angst defiance against his religion stated in &amp;quot;Rapture&amp;quot;), as was Tigh&#039;s memories.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s as clear-cut as &amp;quot;Tyrol/Tigh/Anders/Foster is a Cylon&amp;quot;...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Galen_Tyrol/Archive_1&amp;diff=122270</id>
		<title>Talk:Galen Tyrol/Archive 1</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-18T02:56:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I was re-watching &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039; (which of course stars Edward James Olmos) and noticed that there&#039;s a character in it who&#039;s a mechanic named Tyrol. Makes you wonder...[[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 22:42, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Interesting... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll have to watch &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039; again and catch that... &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the name, somehow, came from that movie.  As some of the elements (such as the &amp;quot;replicants&amp;quot; theme and the weapons) were pretty much inspired by &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039;. [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 16:38, 15 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I remember hearing that Tricia Helfer based Number Six&#039;s behavior on the replicant woman Pris from &#039;&#039;Blade Runner&#039;&#039;, after having watched the movie for the first time the night before filming started.[[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 22:45, 15 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== First name? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When did Tyrol get a first name? ([[User:Alphaboi867|Alphaboi867]] 14:27, 22 Mar 2005 (EST))&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== From RDM ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The name comes from both the official Sci-Fi Channel BSG website and RDM&#039;s blog.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;s not been called by his first name, &amp;quot;Galen&amp;quot;, on the show itself.  At least not in the first season.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RDM does go on to state that Tyrol is the only one with a first name; Gaeta and Dualla don&#039;t have official first names yet.  --[[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:07, 22 Mar 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m wondering why he is refered to as Tyrol (such as in the episode guides) when most of the time, he is refered to as &#039;the chief&#039; or Chief petty officer (Tyrol). Boomer is refered to by her callsign, not Valerii.--[[User:Radicaledward|Radicaledward]] 03:09, 10 Aug 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Tyrol&#039;s Due For a Bitchslap==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After watching the first season 2 episode (&#039;&#039;[[Scattered]]&#039;&#039;) I realized that Tyrol really loses it when other lives or their reputations are in danger. Guarantee that he is going to get flak as well as serious scrutiny when he returns to the ship with the truth of Boomer revealed. He really needs some rational control and see the big picture of things, and also let his crew make mistakes rather than react carelessly. Brilliant chief, but not the brightest. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 02:06, 16 Jul 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Union Meeting Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We really need to get a screencap of him during the union speech. --[[User:Deadlygopher|Deadlygopher]] 22:29, 15 March 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Highest Ranking NCO ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where in the show did it say that he was the senior NCO? I thought I heard it on the show too, but I&#039;d just like to know for sure. If he is the most senior NCO, could this mean there&#039;s only one Chief on the Galactica or that he may actually be a Senior or Master Chief and that there are other &amp;quot;lesser&amp;quot; Chief Petty Officers in the ship?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can&#039;t imagine the Galactica having a one-man goat locker, but then again it&#039;s a fictional military, not the US Navy. Either any of that or I&#039;m just missing something ;) --[[User:Marty4286|Marty4286]] 03:01, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:They stated in the Miniseries that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is not a normal ship; it&#039;s about to be decomissioned.  It&#039;s only got about half of it&#039;s full crew compliment (2,600 as opposed to 5,000).  A normal ship might have more, but as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is about to be decomissioned and not running at full capacity, Tyrol is the Chief Petty Officer and highest ranking NCO.  I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a Master Chief but that&#039;s simply a formality of rank; he&#039;s still the highest ranking guy on the ship.  Meanwhile, in &amp;quot;[[Litmus]]&amp;quot; Adama stated that he is the highest ranking NCO.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:08, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, he doesn&#039;t say EXACTLY that...:&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;You&#039;re the most experienced non-commissioned officer we have left.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::Experience does not always equal rank (especially if you&#039;re not willing to play politics). However, it at least provides time-in-grade within a rank. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:14, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Married?==&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t recall them saying that Cally and Chief were married?  All I remember was that Cally was pregnant at the end of 2x20.  That doesn&#039;t mean marriage.  Was there a piece of dialogue I missed maybe?  If so, please add it to the article using &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
: He&#039;s married. This is confirmed in the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]] webisodes, particularly the second one when Tyrol and [[Jammer]] attempt to recruit [[Tucker Clellan]] a.k.a. &amp;quot;Duck&amp;quot;. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:47, 13 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ok, I just rewatched it and he said that he had a wife and kid.  I will add a reference.  Can you give me the names of the other two characters in that scene?  I don&#039;t know who they are.  thanks.  --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 20:50, 13 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::They are Jammer and Duck. :) --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 20:51, 13 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Callsign/Nickname? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Um, no, &amp;quot;Chief&amp;quot; is neither a callsign nor nickname.  It&#039;s usually how Sailors in the USN shorten the rank of Chief Petty Officer.  If Galen were a Senior Chief Petty Officer, they&#039;d be calling him &amp;quot;Senior&amp;quot;, or if he were a Petty Officer First Class (or Second or Third Class, for that matter), he&#039;d be &amp;quot;Petty Officer&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact is, he has no call sign or nickname (that I&#039;m aware of), and as Sailors are wont to do, they&#039;re just referring to him by his rank out of habit.  I&#039;m strongly tempted to remove it, unless anyone has any objections.--&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#4b0082&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Mitsukai|み使い]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#2f4f4f&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User_talk:Mitsukai|Mitsukai]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; 11:32, 9 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;ve addressed this, as I agree that it isn&#039;t a callsign. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:40, 9 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:None. Smite it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:30, 9 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Guest Cast ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see as I pore over a number of the episodes, Tyrol (and Cally) are listed as guest cast members and not part of the regular cast. In Cally&#039;s case, I&#039;d say that&#039;s appropriate as she sometimes didn&#039;t have speaking lines in season two, and did not appear in every episode in season one either. So absolultey - list her every appearance. But in Tyrol&#039;s case, he&#039;s got a beefier role, and he&#039;s appeared in all but two or three episodes. Anyway, I thought that was kind of strange. Also, the guest cast lists are inconsistent - it&#039;s &amp;quot;Galen Tyrol&amp;quot; for some listings and the longer CPO Galen Tyrol for other listings. Personally I would prefer the shorter listing as the Tyrol page lists his rank there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==But is his body a Cylon?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is Tyrol&#039;s body really a cylon?  What if this whole &amp;quot;Final Five&amp;quot; bit is more metaphysical?  What we&#039;ve heard of his history seems a whole lot more intricate than a fabricated Cylon memory (like his teen angst defiance against his religion stated in &amp;quot;Rapture&amp;quot;), as was Tigh&#039;s memories.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s as clear-cut as &amp;quot;Tyrol/Tigh/Anders/Foster is a Cylon&amp;quot;...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madcat</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Majahual&amp;diff=122107</id>
		<title>Majahual</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-17T04:46:59Z</updated>

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| image= Majhual_215_1080i.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Civilian&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Mining ship&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Majahual&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[mining ship]] in [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]].  It conducts mining operations for five weeks in the asteroid belt of an unnamed star system, during which time the Colonials face repeated harassment by Cylon [[Raider]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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The battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; stays behind to protect the &#039;&#039;Majahual&#039;&#039; during its mining. &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; must use [[Mark One Eyeball|visual sighting]] from their [[CAP]] Vipers to eliminate the Raiders since [[DRADIS]] cannot differentiate the system&#039;s debris from the enemy fighters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite breaking several drilling bits, the &#039;&#039;Majahual&#039;&#039; is able to collect enough &amp;quot;strategic ore&amp;quot; to allow the Viper construction resources on the battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; an opportunity to construct at least two squadrons of [[Viper (RDM)|Viper Mk. VII fighters]]  ([[Scar]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Felix_Gaeta&amp;diff=121856</id>
		<title>Felix Gaeta</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-15T05:20:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* Return to Duty */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Character Data&lt;br /&gt;
|photo= Kobols Last Gleaming pt2-Gaeta.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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|birthname= Felix Gaeta&lt;br /&gt;
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|seen= Miniseries&lt;br /&gt;
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|role=[[Tactical Officer]], Senior Officer of the Watch, [[CIC]], [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, former aide to President [[Gaius Baltar]]&lt;br /&gt;
|rank= Lieutenant&lt;br /&gt;
|actor=[[Alessandro Juliani]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Lieutenant &#039;&#039;&#039;Felix Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039; ({{IPA|&amp;amp;#x02C8;ge&amp;amp;#x026A;.ɾ&amp;amp;#x0259;}} or &amp;quot;gay-tah&amp;quot;) is a young, capable officer in the Colonial military. For the three years prior to the [[Cylon attack]] on the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]], he has served as [[William Adama]]&#039;s Senior Officer of the Watch aboard the battlestars &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the attack, he was studying biogenetics and planned to get a degree through the military extension program ([[Water]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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He exhibits a strong attention to detail and is highly efficient. These tendencies and his overall ability have led William Adama to rely heavily on him as a member of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; command crew, despite his relative youth and junior rank.&lt;br /&gt;
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As well as performing the role of Tactical Officer, Gaeta also manages the ship&#039;s [[FTL]] systems, including the calculation and initiation of jumps. Gaeta also manages the needs of the various primary [[Computers|computer systems]] used on the battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remarkable Brillance==&lt;br /&gt;
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As a result of his studies in biogenetics, Lt. Gaeta is selected by Adama to assist Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] in the development of the much-needed [[Cylon detector]] following the Cylon attack ([[Water]]). During his time working with Baltar, Gaeta develops a certain respect and liking for the doctor - despite the latter&#039;s apparent eccentricities. When a woman called &amp;quot;[[Shelly Godfrey]]&amp;quot; arrives on-board &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Gaeta works hard to prove Baltar&#039;s innocence of the charges levelled against him ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]). Although he is ultimately successful, Gaeta fails to follow-up on the fact that the photographic evidence supplied by &amp;quot;Shelly Godfrey&amp;quot; looked as if the evidence itself had been faked in a way that ensured it was exposed as a forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta shows his remarkable brilliance after &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; mistakenly jumps to a different set of coordinates than the rest of [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] to escape a Cylon attack ([[Scattered]]). The [[FTL]] computers compensate for spatial changes, but due to the chaos after [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] is shot by [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]], Gaeta does not have time to synchronize the spatial positioning with the rest of the Fleet, whose FTL computers had collectively different information. Complicating the issue, if &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; returns to their original position, the Cylons would destroy the ship before it could recalculate the correct Fleet coordinates using standard procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta blames himself (although [[Saul Tigh]] did not), but later realizes that by networking four computers of the ship (something Commander Adama may never have approved), he could reduce the coordinate calculation time from hours to minutes. Knowing the Cylons would try to crack his &#039;&#039;ad hoc&#039;&#039; network, Gaeta sets up five [[Wikipedia:Firewall (networking)|firewalls]] in the network to slow their progress while the ship&#039;s guns and Vipers buy the needed time to calculate. Unfortunately for Gaeta, the firewalls are not completely effective. Several power and CIC systems were disabled by a Cylon infection while [[Cylon Centurion]]s board the ship ([[Valley of Darkness]]). Gaeta scrambles to purge the systems of any remaining traces of the [[Virus|virus]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Under Pressure==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta&#039;s calm exterior shows signs of wear when his interview with [[D&#039;anna Biers]] shows him somewhat drunk, smoking, and brandishing a rather garish [[tattoo]] of a tiger. Viewers learn from the footage that Gaeta&#039;s first name is Felix ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The Cylon virus rears its ugly head once more a few weeks later when shipboard malfunctions increase to a point where consoles begin to sputter and short out. Gaeta confirms that the same virus they thought they had removed from the formerly-networked computers had metamorphized into a heuristic program--a [[Logic bomb|logic bomb]]--that studied and probed flaws in the battlestar&#039;s computers and the hardware that each system manages. The logic bomb threatened to disable the ship&#039;s human control on a Cylon fighter&#039;s command--and a Cylon attack force was imminent.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Gaeta tiger tatoo.jpg|thumb|right|Gaeta&#039;s tiger tattoo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After Colonel Tigh&#039;s command to perform the daunting task of inspecting many lines of computer code for a Cylon virus, the young lieutenant completely loses his cool:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: A power surge energized the board. System&#039;s been twitchy ever since the Cylons infiltrated our network.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh&#039;&#039;&#039;: Commander&#039;s right. I don&#039;t care if you have to go through this program line by line; fix it.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: Excuse me?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh&#039;&#039;&#039;: You heard me.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: Sir, I&#039;m running every diagnostic we&#039;ve got. Checking each line of code could take days.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh&#039;&#039;&#039;: I am not interested in excuses. Fix it!&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: It&#039;s not an excuse, sir. It&#039;s a [[frak|frakking]] fact!&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Everyone on the bridge, especially Commander Adama, is shocked by Gaeta&#039;s highly uncharacteristic outburst, but Adama is not particularly surprised, knowing that everyone on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has low morale after working for months with no relief or change to their routine.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta has a solution for the logic bomb: Wipe all computer hard drives and restore them from backups made before the Cylon attack. The problem in doing this is that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; will be completely vulnerable to attack, save for her Viper fighters, for several minutes as her computers are rebuilt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Against his instincts and on [[Laura Roslin]]&#039;s advice, Adama opts to use the unique abilities of the cooperative [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Caprica copy of Sharon Valerii]] to aid them. Gaeta gives the humanoid Cylon a fiber-optic data link with access to the battlestar mainframe computer and the ship&#039;s communications. After a few tense moments, Valerii asks Gaeta to perform the computer hard drive wipe after taking into her computer/brain a copy of the Cylon virus. She manipulates it and transmits to the massive incoming Cylon fleet, disabling the entire Cylon fleet in the same way that the Colonials suffered in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. The Colonial forces [[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot|destroy the entire Cylon force]] without a single Colonial casualty ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta is among the tense officers and crew in CIC that witness a standoff between their battlestar and the heavily-advanced battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, whose commander, Admiral [[Helena Cain]], has opted to execute two &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; crew members after she tried them herself and against Adama&#039;s requests for the rights of his crew to have a fair, open trial ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Presidential Election and New Caprica ==&lt;br /&gt;
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During the presidential election, Gaeta is assigned to aid and oversee the ballot counting process on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  He also aids in thwarting Roslin&#039;s plans to steal the election (though he apparently never knew -- or indicates any knowledge of -- who exactly is behind it, other than Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]) by discovering the illegitimate ballots from the &#039;&#039;[[Zephyr]]&#039;&#039;.  The only reason he realizes that the &#039;&#039;Zephyr&#039;&#039;&#039;s ballots were tampered with is due to the fact that the &#039;&#039;Zephyr&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s original, valid ballots had misspelled Gaius Baltar&#039;s name -- the fixed ballots did not share this error. (Gaeta had authorized the go-ahead to use the misspelled ballots due to the lack of time to print new ones prior to the opening of the polls.) &lt;br /&gt;
Due to this happenstance discovery, Baltar, who had been rightfully voted as President-Elect, was sworn in as president and ordered the Fleet to colonize [[New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A year later on [[New Caprica]], Gaeta seems to be an adviser to President [[Gaius Baltar]].  His previous post on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is assumed by [[Karl Agathon]]. While Gaeta is pleased that there had been no Cylon attacks during Baltar&#039;s presidency, he disapproves of Baltar&#039;s womanizing and is secretly infuriated at Baltar&#039;s devil-may-care attitude towards the New Caprica City Worker&#039;s Union and the Quorum of Twelve. Gaeta later brings news of the Cylon invasion to the president and is present when Baltar surrenders New Caprica to [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Number Five]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta is also the [[New Caprica Resistance]] inside source into the inner workings of the Cylons. He seems to favor an assassination of President Baltar as he provides the group with information that he is going to attend the [[New Caprica Police]] force graduation, which is disrupted by [[Duck]]&#039;s suicide bombing. However, upon learning that Baltar would not attend, he rushes to contact the group to warn them Baltar that is not going to be there ([[Occupation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inside Man ==&lt;br /&gt;
Being the &amp;quot;inside man&amp;quot; allows him to help the [[New Caprica Resistance]] understand the inner Cylon related activities and security procedures on [[New Caprica]]. For him to contact the group, he flips [[Jake (New Caprica)|Jake]]&#039;s yellow bowl upside down and leaves a note or information packet in a nearby tool bin for the [[New Caprica Resistance|resistance]] to find. [[Galen Tyrol]] does not know that he is the &amp;quot;inside man&amp;quot; and when they talk, Tyrol accuses him of being a collaborator ([[Precipice]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== End of the Baltar Administration ==&lt;br /&gt;
As the Cylons are preparing to evacuate during the [[Battle of New Caprica]], Gaeta pulls a gun on a distraught President Baltar, clearly intending to kill him. [[Caprica-Six]] attempts to dissuade Gaeta from this course of action. In contrast to his companion&#039;s feelings, Baltar seems fully willing to die; but he tells Gaeta that he is the only one who could stop a [[Number Three]]-model Cylon from detonating a nuclear weapon hidden somewhere in the city of New Caprica. This convinces the reluctant Gaeta to let Baltar go, giving the disgraced leader a chance to redeem himself ([[Exodus, Part II]]). Gaeta emerges from the same ship behind Colonel Tigh when Tigh asks Admiral Adama for permission to come aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; during the post-battle celebration.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Return to Duty ==&lt;br /&gt;
Gaeta is initially isolated from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s crew and those who were on New Caprica. Because of his high position in the collaborationist government, they believe he carried out the will of the Cylons. When he arrives in CIC to help with repairs on the communication systems damaged during the recent battle, former resistance leader Colonel Tigh is openly hostile towards him. Gaeta attempts to defend his actions in a tense conversation with [[Kara Thrace]] by revealing himself as Tyrol&#039;s mysterious informant. Starbuck doesn&#039;t know about the informant, since she was a captive of [[Leoben Conoy]] during the four-month Cylon occupation. She mocks her crewmate and dismisses his revelation as a poorly fabricated lie. &lt;br /&gt;
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When Gaeta&#039;s name comes up for review in the the [[Circle]], he is convicted of collaborating with the enemy and sentenced to death, despite the lack of evidence against him. The six-person tribunal takes him to a Viper [[launch tubes (RDM)|launch tube]] to face his sentence. When asked to defend himself, Gaeta says that he already had and refuses to beg for his life. This infuriates [[Kara Thrace]], who lashes out at him in a physical attack and resumes the mocking she started in the mess hall. Upon hearing Thrace repeat information about the [[Jake (New Caprica)|dog bowl]], Galen Tyrol realizes that Gaeta was indeed the informant from inside the Baltar administration. Gaeta is released and allowed to go. He resumes his duties as a lieutenant, still shunned by most of his crewmates except Tyrol ([[Collaborators]]). After his recommissioning, he takes over Baltar&#039;s scientific duties, concentrating on deciphering his notes and determining the course to Earth ([[Torn]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta appears to have a grudge against Tigh for his part in the Circle that nearly ended in Gaeta&#039;s death, as he wore a scowl while everyone else celebrated Tigh&#039;s return from his self-exile.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Gaeta is wearing junior pilot wings on his duty uniform in nearly every appearance since the Miniseries. This would seem to imply that he has completed at least a basic level of flight training during his fleet career.&lt;br /&gt;
*While Gaeta is described as the &amp;quot;Tactical Officer&amp;quot;, his role is closer to that of the US Navy&#039;s CIC Watch Officer (CICWO), combining it with elements of the Tactical Watch Officer (TAO), a role also partially fulfilled by [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]], both under the command of [[William Adama]]. According to the official SciFi.com character data file, Gaeta&#039;s title is &amp;quot;Senior Officer of the Watch&amp;quot;, although the title of Tactical Officer may have a better &amp;quot;ring&amp;quot; to the ears of most viewers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The name &amp;quot;Felix&amp;quot; means &amp;quot;Happy&amp;quot; in Latin; the connotations of the Latin word imply being fortunate, lucky, prosperous, or &amp;quot;favored by the gods&amp;quot;.  It first appeared in the episode &#039;&#039;[[Final Cut]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Gaeta|Gaeta]] is the name of a small seaport and resort in southern Italy. This goes well with his Latin first name.&lt;br /&gt;
*His counterpart in the original &amp;quot;Battlestar Galactica&amp;quot; is Sgt. [[Omega]], a native of [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)|Sagitaria]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In the [[Miniseries]], Gaeta&#039;s name is usually pronounced &amp;quot;Guy-tah&amp;quot; {{IPA|ˈgaɪ.ɾə}}.  However, in all subsequent installments of the regular series, everyone pronounces it as &amp;quot;Gay-tah&amp;quot; {{IPA|ˈgeɪ.ɾə}}; however, Col. [[Saul Tigh]] seems to vacillate between {{IPA|ˈgeɪ.ɾə}} and {{IPA|ˈgaɪ.ɾə}}.&lt;br /&gt;
*There is speculation among fans that Gaeta is another [[Humanoid Cylon speculation|Cylon infiltrator]].&lt;br /&gt;
*According to a recent interview done by [[Jamie Bamber]], he said Gaeta is &amp;quot;Almost definitely!&amp;quot; gay, referring to the fact that Gaeta has been single. When Bamber is also asked about a possible gay storyline, he said &amp;quot;I&#039;ve heard a specific rumor about a storyline, and it is on some level definitely gay. That would be exciting and probably overdue.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.out.com/detail.asp?id=22449 http://www.out.com/detail.asp?id=22449]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Resurrection_Ship,_Part_II&amp;diff=121854</id>
		<title>Resurrection Ship, Part II</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-15T05:10:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* Analysis */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Episode Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image = Gina-Cain.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title= Resurrection Ship, Part II&lt;br /&gt;
| series= &lt;br /&gt;
| season= 2&lt;br /&gt;
| episode= 12&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=[[Michelle Forbes]] as Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]]&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; [[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story= &lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=212&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 1.9&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2006-01-13&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2006-03-21&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 2.5 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 2 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| population= 49604&lt;br /&gt;
| oldpopulation= 49604&lt;br /&gt;
| prev= [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next= [[Epiphanies]]&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast= Y&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;The battlestars &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;  and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;  engage in [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship|an all-out battle]] to destroy the Cylon “Resurrection” ship.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*The episode begins in a forward-flashback (as did &amp;quot;[[Act of Contrition]]&amp;quot;), as viewers see [[Lee Adama]] floating in a planetary body of water. He sees something approaching him—it is a Cylon [[Raider]] with a [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] in hot pursuit, and we return to reality to see Apollo floating in space in his ejection seat.&lt;br /&gt;
*A title card, &amp;quot;48 Hours Earlier,&amp;quot; appears, setting the stage before Apollo&#039;s dream.  [[Kara Thrace]] asks [[Lee Adama]] for backup on her mission to assassinate Admiral Cain. Adama accepts, and reassures Thrace of the importance of trust as he embraces her.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Galen Tyrol]] are bound and beaten in the brig by upset &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; officers, aided again by their [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]], until Executive officer [[Jack Fisk]] arrives to break it up.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Helena Cain]] and [[Kara Thrace]] have a drink together, and Cain asks Thrace to promise not to flinch when she has to commit a &amp;quot;terrible sin.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lieutenant Lee Adama makes a courier run to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, taking the opportunity to ask his father about Thrace&#039;s special mission. [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] is uninterested in discussing the issue, but young Adama is surprised to know that President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is involved in the assassination plot.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thrace and &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;  XO Jack Fisk both prepare for their assassination missions, as well as the attack on the Resurrection Ship.&lt;br /&gt;
* Before Commander Adama proceeds with his assassination plan on Cain, he solicits advice from the cooperative Cylon captive, [[Sharon Agathon]], asking her why the Cylons hate humanity as they do. She reminds him of a portion of his decommissioning speech ([[Miniseries]]), asking whether humanity has asked &#039;&#039;itself&#039;&#039; if it is deserving to survive despite its failings.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Resurrection Ship]] and at least one [[Basestar_(RDM)|basestar]] are destroyed by the Colonials.&lt;br /&gt;
*During the battle, the [[Blackbird]] is successful in disabling the Resurrection Ship.  While escaping, the Blackbird is heavily damaged when it crashes into a disabled Raptor.  Lieutenant Adama is able to eject in time as the Blackbird is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Floating in space, Apollo&#039;s [[flight suit]] springs a leak. Communications officer [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]] tries frantically to contact him, but Apollo does not respond by choice. Later he releases the last of the air in his [[flight suit]] and says, &amp;quot;I&#039;m sorry, Kara,&amp;quot; losing consciousness just as a [[SAR]] Raptor appears in the nick of time to save him.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gaius Baltar]]&#039;s feelings for [[Number Six]] transfer to the copy named [[Gina]], who is tangible and more &#039;&#039;human&#039;&#039; than his  internal Number Six. He repeats to Gina a story told to him by Six about going to watch [[Pyramid (RDM)|pyramid]] games, finally taking her hands in his as Baltar&#039;s internal Six disappears in sadness. As Gina senses the destruction of the Resurrection Ship, she takes a sidearm from a marine she kills, with Baltar&#039;s help, and asks Baltar to kill her, noting that suicide is a sin. Baltar refuses, gives her the sidearm, and tells her she needs justice, ostensibly referring to Admiral Cain and her tyranny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[William Adama]] and [[Helena Cain]] both speak over [[wireless]] to conspirators [[Jack Fisk]] and [[Kara Thrace]], respectively, but neither commander gives the order to assassinate the other.&lt;br /&gt;
*After the battle, Gina shoots and kills [[Helena Cain|Admiral Cain]] in the admiral&#039;s quarters. Cain is challenging to the last, unregretful of the treatment that Gina has been given. Gina soon disappears from &#039;&#039;Pegasus.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*At Cain&#039;s funeral, Kara Thrace speaks admiringly of her, saying the Fleet would have been safer with her than it is without her. This statement raises a stare from Commander Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
*As Lee Adama confides to Thrace that he didn&#039;t want to survive the mission, [[Anastasia Dualla]] stands outside Adama&#039;s quarters eavesdropping, visibly worried about young Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; and her crew remain in the Fleet, with [[William Adama]] becoming an admiral to command both battlestars. After receiving new admiral&#039;s insignia from [[Laura Roslin]], he gives her a brief but affectionate kiss, to the smiles of both.&lt;br /&gt;
*Laura Roslin is now visibly weakened by her fight with cancer, and her composure and strength are failing. Her end appears near.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ep212battle.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Cylon basestar under assault]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Vireem and Gage&#039;s beating of Tyrol and Helo with bars of soap stuffed inside towels used as slings is an homage to the Stanley Kubrick film &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia:Full_Metal_Jacket|Full Metal Jacket]]&amp;quot;, in which a similar thing happens to &amp;quot;Pvt. Pyle&amp;quot; in the Marine barracks at night. RDM points this out himself in the podcast.&lt;br /&gt;
*Apollo was demoted to Lieutenant by Cain when she revoked his flight status.  At the beginning of Part I, he is referred to as &amp;quot;Captain&amp;quot;, but after Cain mentions that she revoked his flight status, Adama addresses his son as &amp;quot;Lieutenant&amp;quot;.  The official Scifi.com website was updated the week after this episode aired showing the new ranks of characters--Captain Kara Thrace,  Admiral William Adama--but it also was changed to list Lee Adama as a Lieutenant.&lt;br /&gt;
*Apollo&#039;s experience of ejecting in the middle of the battle and watching it unfold around him is, according to the podcast, based on the real life experience of Ensign [[Wikipedia:George Gay|George Gay]] during the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Midway|Battle of Midway]].  George Gay&#039;s plane was shot down and he witnessed the entire battle while floating in the ocean.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The beating of Helo and the Chief was edited so that in the teaser, all we see is the &amp;quot;Sunshine Boys&amp;quot; entering the cell with their marines, about to tie the two up while making threatening comments. Given that they were involved in the gang rape of Gina, many viewers left the teaser fearing that far worse was going to happen to Agathon and Tyrol than simply being beaten with soap wrapped in towels.&lt;br /&gt;
* The basestar/battlestar battle is epic, although viewers do not see a great deal of it from a play-by-play standpoint. The pairing of an advanced battlestar such as &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; with the oldest battlestar, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, likely illustrates why the Cylons used [[CNP|sabotage]] instead of all-out war to [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|defeat the Twelve Colonies]]. With proper planning, battlestars working in tandem will obliterate a basestar in a close-range attack, which uses missiles and fighters, but appears to have no gun batteries itself.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lee Adama&#039;s collision with the downed [[Raptor]] occurrs partly because Adama is looking behind him, examining the damage he dealt to the Resurrection Ship. This may be symbolic of one of young Adama&#039;s character flaws: he is always looking backward, always examining what he&#039;s done instead of keeping his attention on the here and now. See &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;, where Lee agonizes over firing on the &#039;&#039;[[Olympic Carrier]]&#039;&#039; while his father warns him specifically about not second-guessing himself. This theme also parallels Cain&#039;s words—-which Starbuck echoes at her funeral—-about not flinching or second-guessing when terrible things have to be done.&lt;br /&gt;
* Obviously, the writers felt that the battle was less important than the events planned immediately after--the mutual attempts by Cain and Adama to kill each other. Viewers enter the battle scene at the stage where the battlestars tackle the destruction of the basestars, although there was a ruse earlier involving the entire [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]]. This quick segue was also likely done in light of the cost for the visual effects, since the shots of the battlestar attacks would be greatly desired by the fans, but also be new VFX and therefore expensive.&lt;br /&gt;
* The pregnant Sharon Valerii again shows that she has the memories of the &#039;original&#039; Boomer, which was previously shown in the season opener when she started to tell Starbuck of the time they met.&lt;br /&gt;
* A new love triangle is formed as Gaius Baltar seems more fixated on the &#039;&#039;notion&#039;&#039; of Gina and her pain rather than the feelings of his virtual Number Six, who unsuccessfully pleads him not to aid Gina in killing herself. As he takes Gina&#039;s hand, the virtual Six disappears from view in the scene. Perhaps Baltar needed to touch a &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; Six copy, and is also swayed by her &amp;quot;humanity&amp;quot;--her vulnerability and weakness, as well as her differing interpretation on how she thinks [[God]] will forgive the Colonials for the destruction of the Cylon fleet.  &lt;br /&gt;
* In another example of Gaius&#039; ability to multi-task, he relates to Gina as his own the anecdote that Six told him (about purchasing two tickets when she went to see Pyramid games, as the extra ticket permitted her to imagine Gaius watched the game with her).  The anecdote serves two conversations at once.  The anecdote reinforces his bond with Gina and indicates to Six that flesh-and-blood Gina is of far greater importance to him than (presumably non-corporeal) Six, or the tens of thousands of Cylons who are about to die, permanently, with the destruction of the resurrection ship.  Baltar&#039;s relationship with Six in the future will likely be a strained one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Adama&#039;s affectionate kiss with [[Laura Roslin]], although not necessarily romantic in nature, opens up all kinds of new story possibilities and complications for the characters and the Fleet. It might have been considered by some viewers to be the most surprising part of the whole episode since no information on this scene was noted in advance of the show&#039;s airing. As noted by RDM in the podcast commentary, the kiss was improvised by Olmos. His and McDonnell&#039;s acting continues to be exemplary.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lee Adama&#039;s reason for wanting to die are not fully explained. One reason could be that he learns that both his father and President Roslin, two of the persons closest to him, sanction the assassination of Cain, thus shattering his world view. But there are probably other factors involved too.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why doesn&#039;t Cain issue the order for Adama&#039;s execution? Is it a change of heart or does she suspect that her life was in jeopardy by Thrace?&lt;br /&gt;
* Subsequent to [[Gina]]&#039;s killing of Cain, Gina disappears from &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and Colonial military imprisonment (as promised by Baltar).  Where is she being hidden? ([[Epiphanies|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] hands Gina a weapon in the ante-room of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; brig. Wouldn&#039;t a high-security area be equipped with surveillance cameras? Has Baltar disappeared as well?&lt;br /&gt;
*Viewers only see one basestar destroyed. Is the other destroyed as well, or os it able to jump away with the surviving Raiders and support ships?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is Lee Adama becoming depressed and unable to command his pilots? ([[Black Market|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* How many new Viper squadrons and pilots have been added to the Fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
* How will Adama deal with the mob-level brutality that appears throughout &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;? ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* How closely have the Cylons studied the memories of Boomer aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and the other [[Cylon agent|spies]] in the Fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
* How will Kara Thrace&#039;s comments at Cain&#039;s funeral affect her relationship with now-Admiral Adama? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]&amp;quot;, Baltar forces Boomer into revealing that eight Cylons are still in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]]. However, this obviously does not take into account the introduction of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. Thus, are there any more Cylon agents are aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;? If so, what do they number?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will these agents be more careful in what they do, knowing that resurrection is no longer possible? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Will another [[Blackbird]] be constructed?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will Adama stay aboard &#039;&#039;[[Galactica_(RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; now that he&#039;s been promoted? ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Are there going to be any other promotions? ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Who will become  the [[CAG]] of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as [[Kara_Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Lee_Adama|Apollo]] were assigned to [[Pegasus_(RDM)|Pegasus]] at the time Admiral Cain was assassinated? ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* What changes in the Cylon strategy will we see, now that the [[Resurrection Ship]] has been destroyed? ([[Scar|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements == &lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
*{{audio|RS2 - can&#039;t rape a machine.mp3|&#039;&#039;After the rescue of Helo and Tyrol by Fisk.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Jack Fisk&#039;&#039;&#039;: I don&#039;t want your thanks. I owe Lieutenant Thorne my life, as do many people on this ship.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Helo&#039;&#039;&#039;: He was trying to rape a prisoner!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fisk&#039;&#039;&#039;: You can&#039;t &amp;quot;rape&amp;quot; a machine, Lieutenant.&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|RS2 - humanity&#039;s survival.mp3|&#039;&#039;Sharon responds to Adama&#039;s question on survival.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Agathon&#039;&#039;&#039;: It&#039;s what you said at the ceremony before the attack, when &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was being decommissioned. You gave a speech, it sounded like it wasn&#039;t the one you prepared. You said that humanity was a flawed creation, and that people still kill one another for petty jealousy and greed. You said that humanity never asked itself why it deserved to survive. Maybe you don&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Helena Cain talking to Kara Thrace&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Helena Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I know you&#039;re very close with Adama. &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace&#039;&#039;&#039;: Yes, sir.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: And I know he&#039;s a good man. And I know he&#039;s had to make some very hard choices over the last few months. Lord knows I have.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Thrace&#039;&#039;&#039;: Well, then maybe you can understand why he did what he thought he had to do when you said you were going to execute Helo and Tyrol.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: Let me tell you something. I&#039;ve had to watch a lot of kids be put into body bags. They&#039;re covered with flags and they float out that airlock. You think I don&#039;t understand his feelings towards his men? Sometimes terrible things have to be done. Inevitably, each and every one of us will have to face a moment where we have to commit that horrible sin. And if we flinch in that moment, if we hesitate for one second, if we let our conscience get in the way, you know what happens? There are more kids in those body bags. More kids floating out that airlock. I don&#039;t know why, but I have a lot of faith in you. And I want you to promise me that when that moment comes you won&#039;t flinch. Do not flinch.&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|RS2 - one has to be worthy of surviving.mp3|&#039;&#039;Speaking to Starbuck over wireless.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;William Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I&#039;ve been thinking about what we talked about before. It&#039;s not enough to survive. One has to be worthy of surviving. That&#039;s all.&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|RS2 - suicide is a sin.mp3|&#039;&#039;Before Gina&#039;s escape.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gina&#039;&#039;&#039;: Suicide is a sin. But I need to die!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: What you need is justice. I know a place where you can stay, where you can be safe, where I can look after you.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gina&#039;&#039;&#039;: Why—Why would you do that?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: Because I love you.&lt;br /&gt;
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* {{audio|RS2 - Cain&#039;s last words.mp3|&#039;&#039;In Cain&#039;s quarters after Gina&#039;s escape.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gina&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;(confronting Cain with a gun)&#039;&#039;: Tell me, Admiral. Can you roll over? Beg? &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Helena Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: Frak you. &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gina&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;(right before shooting)&#039;&#039;: You&#039;re not my type.&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|RS2 - Kara&#039;s eulogy.mp3|&#039;&#039;Kara&#039;s eulogy at Admiral Cain&#039;s funeral.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace&#039;&#039;&#039;: I, um, only knew Admiral Cain for a short time, so what I have to say about her will be short. She faced things. She looked them right in the eye and she didn&#039;t flinch. That&#039;s something that we do a lot around here. We second-guess. We worry. When I think about what she went through after the attack -- all alone, one ship, no help, no hope -- she didn&#039;t give up. She didn&#039;t worry. She didn&#039;t second-guess. She acted. She did what she thought needed to be done, and the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; survived. Might be hard to admit, or hard to hear, but I think that we were safer with her...than we are without.&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|RS2 - didn&#039;t want to come back alive.mp3|&#039;&#039;Kara talks to Lee after his rescue.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace&#039;&#039;&#039;: Lee. Lee, you okay? Are you okay?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: No, not really. Um...I broke my word to you.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Thrace&#039;&#039;&#039;: What are you talking about?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I let you down. I wasn&#039;t there when you needed me.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Thrace&#039;&#039;&#039;: Look, a close call like that? That&#039;d mess with anybody&#039;s head. Alright? You know, it turns out I didn&#039;t need you anyway, so... Let&#039;s just be glad that we both came back alive, alright?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: That&#039;s just it, Kara. I didn&#039;t want to make it back alive.&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|RS2 - never give up hope.mp3|&#039;&#039;Laura discusses Adama&#039;s new job after Cain&#039;s funeral.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Laura Roslin&#039;&#039;&#039;: Rumor has it that I know very little about military protocol, but I do know that someone who commands more than one ship is called an admiral. Congratulations, Admiral Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;William Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Thank you, Madame President. Thank you, Billy. I um, never gave up hope, I just stopped trying to get these a long time ago.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Roslin&#039;&#039;&#039;: Just goes to show you, Bill. Never give up hope.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Same goes for you, Laura.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Graham Beckel]] as Colonel [[Jack Fisk]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vincent Gale]] as Chief [[Peter Laird]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter-John Prinsloo]] as Lt. [[Mei Firelli|Mei &amp;quot;Freaker&amp;quot; Firelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Dryborough]] as [[Hoshi]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Pegasus (episode)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;For information related the [[Mercury-class Battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; itself, see &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)]]&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For information about the extended DVD cut of this episode, see [[Pegasus (Extended Version)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Episode Data&lt;br /&gt;
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| title=Pegasus&lt;br /&gt;
| series=&lt;br /&gt;
| season=2&lt;br /&gt;
| episode=10&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=[[Michelle Forbes]] as Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]]&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Anne Cofell Saunders]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story=&lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=210&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2005-09-23&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2006-03-14&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 2.0 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 2 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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| oldpopulation= 47853&lt;br /&gt;
| extra=&#039;&#039;&#039;Season 2.0 Cliffhanger&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast=Y&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;[[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]] happily discovers that the [[Mercury class battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; has survived the destruction of the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Colonies]], only to have [[Helena Cain|Admiral Cain]] take command of &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; and enforce her own hardcore military doctrine on the Fleet.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, a [[Mercury class battlestar]], has joined the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]].  She survived the attack by [[blind-jump]]ing as the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] attacked the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A large Cylon fleet of two [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s, approximately one dozen support ships and an [[Unknown Cylon Ship]] have been trailing the Fleet. &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; detected this fleet, which in turn led them to find &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; discovered this Cylon fleet and has been carrying out hit-and-run attacks against the Cylons.  At first the Cylon fleet&#039;s course seemed to be random, until Cain realized they were going to systems with natural resources.&lt;br /&gt;
* After looking over &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; logs, Cain surmises that the Cylon fleet was following &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; (which itself was Jumping to systems with natural resources for the Fleet). &lt;br /&gt;
* Upon assuming command of the Fleet, Cain moves crew members around, citing discipline concerns, transferring [[Lee Adama]] and [[Kara Thrace]] to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  This is in spite of her initial promise not to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
* President [[Laura Roslin]] has concerns about why Cain ignores her requests to talk and, more importantly, why &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is only resupplying &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; military stores and ignoring the Fleet&#039;s needs.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tyrol welcomes his counterpart from &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. [[Peter Laird]] is a civilian aeronautical engineer-turned Deck Chief who designed the [[DDG-62|old engines]] in the [[Blackbird]]. Laird is both appalled and impressed by Tyrol&#039;s new stealth fighter.&lt;br /&gt;
* Captain Adama is essentially busted down to [[Raptor]] pilot in a recon mission to the Cylon fleet. He shows his defiant side by asking Starbuck (who is pulled off the recon mission herself for insubordination) to commandeer the [[Blackbird]] for better recon photos of the Cylon fleet, all without being noticed by Colonial &#039;&#039;or&#039;&#039; Cylon forces.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Galen Tyrol]] discover that [[Gina]], the Cylon prisoner aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, was raped by the crew as a form of torture. They rush to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s brig, where a &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; lieutenant, [[Alastair Thorne]], is about to rape the Caprica copy of [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Sharon Valerii]]. Tyrol throws Thorne against a bulkhead, accidentally killing him. The pair are arrested and taken to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. [[image:pegasus02.jpg|left|thumb|Battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Commander Adama is angered at Admiral Cain&#039;s convening of courts-martial for the men on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, not &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; where the offense occurred. Admiral Cain refuses to return the prisoners and balks at the thought of an independent tribunal to settle the dispute.  Using Adama&#039;s logs against him once more, she notes that the [[Litmus|last time &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; held a tribunal]], Commander Adama dissolved the tribunal when he &amp;quot;didn&#039;t like the verdict.&amp;quot;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Cain rapidly decides the verdict by herself hours later and orders Helo and Tyrol to be executed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Upon discovering what Admiral Cain&#039;s hasty execution order, Commander Adama orders a Raptor to fly out with an armed [[Marine]] boarding party, and launches &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; Vipers as escort, demanding that Admiral Cain release [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Galen Tyrol]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Cain responds by launching &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;&#039; Vipers against the incoming Vipers from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  They close in on each other as the episode ends.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The episode ran over time and a lot of the background information was cut from the television release. However the deleteted scenes were restored for the DVD release to create a 5-act episode. These changes are detailed in the &amp;quot;[[Pegasus (Extended Version)]]&amp;quot; article.&lt;br /&gt;
* This episode has been nominated for the [[Awards and Honors|2006 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Population count is 49,605, a dramatic increase of 1,752 since the 47,853 count in &amp;quot;[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&amp;quot;, undoubtedly to account for the addition of &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; and her crew to the Colonial Fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
**Cain notes that Pegasus lost 700 crew in the opening attack. Thus we may speculate that at the time of the attack her crew totaled to approximately 2,460.&lt;br /&gt;
***This number does not take into account any casualties that may have occurred because of the attack on the Cylon staging area, or any subsequent encounters with the Cylons. &lt;br /&gt;
***This is substantially smaller than &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&#039;s crew, explained by many of Cain&#039;s crew being on leave at the time of the attack and mainly increased automation due to newer technology.&lt;br /&gt;
***Also, as [[Peter Laird|Laird]] indicates, many civilians were pressed into service. So the number of actual pre-Holocaust &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew members may be far less than indicated above.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] flies wingman to [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] in the opening sequence of this episode, as the [[CAP]] scouts &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. Evidently she&#039;s been judged fit to resume flight status after negligently damaging a Viper due to overuse of [[Stims]] in &amp;quot;[[Final Cut]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* As the episode ends,the bulk of &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;s&#039;&#039; Viper fleet consist of the Mark IIs, while &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; had the Mark VIIs.  A classic picture of &amp;quot;old vs. new&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**While &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; seems to have entirely Viper Mk. VIIs, they would presumably have had to removed most of the automated systems from them (to prevent Cylon virus infiltration). Doing this makes them more difficult to fly (&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; few Mk. VII&#039;s are only used by the most capable pilots now). &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;s&#039;&#039; pilots might have more advanced fighters but they aren&#039;t as reliable now as the tried-and-true Mk. IIs.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Helena Cain]] is the female version of [[Cain (TOS)|Cain]], who was portrayed by the late [[Lloyd Bridges]] in the original &#039;&#039;[[Battlestar Galactica (1978)|Battlestar Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
* This episode is inspired by the two part episode, &amp;quot;[[The Living Legend, Part I (TOS)|The Living Legend]]&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] also wrote another episode called [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Pegasus The Pegasus], in the seventh season of &#039;&#039;Star Trek: The Next Generation&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, when the episode came back from commercial at the start of Act 3 a &amp;quot;Viewer Discretion Is Advised&amp;quot; black and white message was inserted, warning of &amp;quot;mature subject matter&amp;quot; and content. The following final act of the episode shows drunken &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crewmen bragging about raping the Humanoid Cylon known as Gina, then the scene where Lt.Thorne attempts to rape Caprica-Sharon and Tyrol and Agathon intervene and fight the marine guards appears.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew wear a white version of the Colonial patch on their uniforms instead of the gold version used by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
**Apollo and Starbuck do not switch to this version after their transfer to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, in this or subsequent episodes.&lt;br /&gt;
*Baltar makes an etiquette flub, referring to Admiral Cain as &amp;quot;Commander&amp;quot;; she promptly corrects him &amp;quot;Admiral!&amp;quot; and he apologizes.  This might be a little in-joke that in the Original Series, Cain was a Commander, and did not outrank Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cally Henderson]]&#039;s charged reaction to the drunken &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crewmen bragging about raping Gina repeatedly is probably due to herself being the survivor of an attempted rape, in &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;. This disgust with the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew&#039;s gang-rape of Gina is interesting in light of the fact that Henderson had no compunctions about killing [[Sharon Valerii|&amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]]. Evidently she now acknowledges the Cylons&#039; humanity in at least some measure. &lt;br /&gt;
*Women don&#039;t appreciate talk about rape in general. [[RDM]] indicates something to this effect [[Podcast:Pegasus#Act 3|in the podcast]].&lt;br /&gt;
*It is interesting on a dramatic level how the portrayal of Cally&#039;s killing of Valerii in &amp;quot;[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]&amp;quot; contrasts with the portrayal of the brutalized Gina and the attempted rape of [[Sharon Agathon|Caprica-Valerii]]. It was less shocking to many to watch Boomer being shot to death than it was to watch Caprica-Valerii being pinned down over her bunk and almost raped—possibly because, while killing a Valerii copy is an understandable act of revenge, raping one would be a senseless act of cruelty.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the [[Miniseries]], Adama first proposes that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; will go about independent of the rest of the fleet and fight the Cylons. Roslin persuades him to instead protect and lead the fleet on their escape from the colonies. The &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, in contrast, &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; travel about independently attacking the Cylons. The condition of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;&#039;s crew may be an indication of what would have happened to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; if she stood and fought.&lt;br /&gt;
*In contrast to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s nearly evenly gender-divided crew, the crew of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; seems predominantly male to a very high degree. Admiral Cain is the only female aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; with a speaking role, with only a couple other females visible in the hallways or in the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; ready room. This stands in notable contrast to Ron Moore&#039;s egalitarian vision of gender issues in the military, and might have been an intentional decision made during production. In addition, the dialogue of the drunken &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crewmen suggests they&#039;ve perhaps forgotten how to act around women— they either ignore or fail to understand Cally&#039;s and [[Diana Seelix|Seelix&#039;s]] disgust with their talk about gang-raping Gina. This may be a contributing factor to the behavior of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew, the relative paucity of women aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and the resulting sexual frustration could have led to the overly regimented, authoritarian, and brutal culture the crew developed, culminating in the senseless, repeated gang rape of the Cylon prisoner [[Gina]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Not simply relying on her rank, Admiral Cain asserts her dominance in more subtle ways as soon as she sets foot on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. Despite the fact that she&#039;s bringing one ship to join dozens, she welcomes &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; back to the Colonial Fleet, thus defining the Fleet as wherever she is. Later she tells Roslin &#039;You look like I just shot your dog&#039; when she asserts her authority over Adama. Both of these acts give some show of being welcoming or friendly, but also claim her spot at the top of the food chain. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Laird|Laird]], &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039; &#039;&#039; deck chief, refers to events since &amp;quot;the war happened&amp;quot;.  Admiral Cain and her &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew seem to still consider fighting against the Cylons to be a war, while in the [[Miniseries]] Commander Adama admitted that &amp;quot;the war is over, we lost&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Visual effects gaffe: When viewers are cut to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; exterior as Adama makes his way to the bridge, it is behind and slightly above and to the left of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. When seen again a few minutes later as it launches Vipers towards &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, it&#039;s quite a distance away from the fleet, above it and facing its left side.  Both ships may have just quickly moved into attack position while Adama was on the phone with Cain.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thrace&#039;s criticism of Taylor&#039;s reconaissance plan - that the Cylons would never leave such an obvious blind spot unaccounted for - is the same criticism she made of Tigh&#039;s initial assault plan in &amp;quot;[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*There are problems with Admiral Cain&#039;s statement that she has broad authority due to being a flag officer on detached service during a time of war. The military command structure of the Colonial Fleet no longer exists on the Twelve Colonies. All existing Colonial authorities, both military and civilian, are right where Cain is, so she is not actually &amp;quot;detached&amp;quot; from anywhere. Also, Adama and Roslin decided that the official war is over, though Cain would obviously never accept that.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Will Starbuck and her [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter play a role in the armed standoff between &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;? ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Where did the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew get fresh fruit? ([[Scylla|Probable answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*In the absence of Apollo and Starbuck, who is leading &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; fighters against &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;? ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What is the function of the unknown Cylon ship? ([[Resurrection Ship|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Does the Blackbird have FTL? ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Why are so many Viper pilots tasked with a recon mission carried out by Raptors? Did &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; lose many Raptor pilots?&lt;br /&gt;
* How did Cain and her crew discover the existence of humanoid Cylon models? ([[Pegasus (Extended Version)|Possible answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements == &lt;br /&gt;
*In an [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm interview with BattlestarGalactica.com on December 28th, 2005] RDM was asked about controversy surrounding this episode:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Q: Walt Kelly&#039;s Pogo used the phrase &amp;quot;the enemy is us&amp;quot; as part of a 1970&#039;s anti-litter campaign, and recently David Eick has cited it as a theme in the longer Pegasus arc of the second season. Some of the show&#039;s vocal critics charge that this notion promotes a &amp;quot;Blame America&amp;quot; attitude or is a sort of stealth anti-Americanism. What is this concept supposed to convey as we head into the bottom half of the second season? &lt;br /&gt;
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:RDM: The reference is to the fact that human beings are often their own worst enemy. In the context of the show, it means that the real challenges to who and what these people are often comes not from bullets, but from within. I continue to be amazed at how easily one gets tagged with the moniker of &amp;quot;anti-American&amp;quot; these days by those on the right. It&#039;s almost... well, anti-American.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* From [http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/aaron_douglas_01.htm TheSciFiWorld.net&#039;s inverview] with [[Aaron Douglas]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Gilles Nuytens:&#039;&#039;&#039; I read some critics about the &amp;quot;rape&amp;quot; scene shown in the last episode aired, as you played in this scene, what&#039;s your opinion on it?&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;&#039;Aaron Douglas:&#039;&#039;&#039; BSG is a reflection of real life and these types of events go on everyday. Many people were upset by it but to me they need to realize that this is the world we live in. Does that mean they have or want to watch? Absolutely not but do not discount it as sensationalism. What we shot was so much more graphic than what was aired and I understand why they did not use it. In what aired the rape had not totally begun. It was suggestive. I thought it was a good scene and on point with the story and not added to draw in viewers. That suggestion is absurd. I know Ron Moore very well and he is not the kind of person or writer to add scenes purely for sensationalistic or ratings purposes. They have to be on point, truthfully reflect the situation and today&#039;s world and be relevant to the story or they are not there. It also amazes me that people have no problem with beatings, shootings, bombings, stabbings etc. but show a breast, a bottom, or a grope and they fly off the wall to condemn it.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This happens in all areas of film, television and theatre and it is ridiculous.&lt;br /&gt;
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* From [http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2674 Hollywood North Report: Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part II], article on filming the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I|series finale]] and an interview with [[Mary McDonnell]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Robert Falconer:&#039;&#039;&#039; Speaking of bleak, you had some pretty strong feelings about how people reacted to that rape scene at the end of Pegasus, and the overall problem of how violence against women tends to be portrayed on television.&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Mary McDonnell]]&#039;&#039;&#039;: I have strong feelings about this as a woman; it’s a huge button for me, the issue of violence against women on television and how much of this stuff we’re going to pump out there before it becomes an accepted point of view that that’s what happens to women, and no-one takes responsibility and there’s no consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But there’s a big difference between crystallizing it inside a genre that doesn’t do it very often; making it part of one story one week, and the mainstream, non-sci-fi television where we become used to seeing women being raped and killed and mutilated—and other horrible things. &#039;&#039;That’s&#039;&#039; the sad thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So for me, the fact that it was so upsetting to people when presented on &#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039; is a very good thing. It &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be upsetting. It &#039;&#039;needs&#039;&#039; to be very, very upsetting. One &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; watch it and think, “I don’t want to see that!” We shouldn’t be using the fragility or vulnerability of the female body as a “technique” around which to build entertainment.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I believe if &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; were doing that sort of thing all the time, then the show would have a problem. But the way it was portrayed enables people to dialogue and talk about these sorts of things. Fires should be lit. And we should hear. Then you know if you’re in the ballpark of something that is really relevant, or if you’re being exploitive. And I have a lot of respect for the people who got upset as well as the people who wrote it.&lt;br /&gt;
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* From [http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2363 Hollywood North Report: Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part I], which includes an interview with [[Edward James Olmos]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Robert Falconer&#039;&#039;&#039;: By the end of “Pegasus,” Adama makes a decision with potentially sweeping consequences, but one that logically follows from everything that has happened to him up to that point. Is this a decision he will be able to live with as a military leader?&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Edward James Olmos&#039;&#039;&#039;: I think Adama’s decision to attack the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; could be interpreted as strictly military in nature. You don’t leave anybody behind, and protecting your men is a fundamental tenet of any military leader. In fact, you could argue that he has no consideration for anyone OTHER than his military guys aboard the Pegasus—he’s not thinking about the fleet at that moment, he’s not even thinking about the future of either of those two battlestars, because they’re going to blast each other to bits, since he’s not going to give into Cain’s craziness.&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Robert&#039;&#039;&#039;: The rape scene toward the end of “Pegasus” has stirred up a lot of controversy in certain quarters. Ironically, there seems to be something of a disconnect here; people seem more willing to accept this in contemporary mainstream drama than they do in television science fiction, almost as if they’ve become conditioned to science fiction presenting a sanitized view of the future. Any thoughts on that?&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Edward James Olmos&#039;&#039;&#039;: Well for those who were particularly upset by the scene to which you refer, I pray to god they don’t watch because it’s only going to get worse. They should be warned right now: please turn off your television sets and do not watch this show because it’s only going to provide more insight into the complexities of what happens to human beings. I would say that the minority of people who were freaked out by the rape scene are likely to be jarred into unconsciousness. So I say to them: do not watch this program, it could be hazardous to your health.&lt;br /&gt;
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: For everyone else, hang on, ‘cause it’s gonna be a helluva ride…&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Leah Cairns]] discusses a humorous incident while shooting the episode:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Leah Cairns]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; One of the funniest things shooting a specific scene happened when we were shooting a scene where &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; meets &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. A scene with [[Michelle Forbes]] in it when Forbes and [[William Adama|Adama]] see each other in the hanger deck. [[Edward James Olmos|Eddie [James Olmos]]] wandered off set in the middle of shooting. He thought we were on a little break, and he wandered off, and [[Michael Rymer]], the director didn&#039;t notice and called action! It was a close up on Michelle Forbes and Rymer had no idea that Eddie wasn&#039;t there. And Michelle Forbes being the professional that she is.... when the camera is rolling you do your business..... so she started the scene! But there was no one to respond to her! So [[James Callis]] nonchalantly comes over and steps into Eddie&#039;s place and puts on the best Adama voice you&#039;d ever heard! Better than Eddie can do! (laughs) And they did the entire scene with Michelle and James Callis as Adama, and Michelle almost pulled it off, except [[Mary McDonnell|Mary [McDonnell]]] got the giggles and started laughing and then all the background started laughing and Michael Rymer, who STILL doesn&#039;t know that Eddie left, comes out and starts yelling at everybody because we were all laughing during the take! And then he looks around and says ....where the hell is Eddie and realizes that the whole scene was bogus!&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Gilles Nuytens:&#039;&#039;&#039; It seems funny yeah. What was the reaction of Michelle Forbes?&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Leah Cairns:&#039;&#039;&#039; She was so great! There was this tiny little hint.... you could see in her eyes just a tiny bit that... I think she thought she&#039;d just go along with it until Michael Rymer actually figured it out. But Callis just steps in and starts talking like Adama.... so she just went with it! She was trying so hard to keep it together! Sometimes in situations like that some really great moments can come about and sometimes magic can happen on camera ...... but Mary just couldn&#039;t keep it together and started laughing and Michelle ... what can she do? She killed herself laughing! The only person who didn&#039;t laugh was Callis, he was dead pan through the entire thing. He was so set on playing Adama, he was just awesome!&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;sfw&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_web|url=http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/leah_cairns_01.htm|title=The Scifi World: Leah Cairns interview|date=21 March 2007|accessdate=10 April 2007|last=Nuytens|first=Giles|format=|language=}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|Pegasus - I&#039;m here to help you.mp3|&#039;&#039;Speaking to Gina&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: The food is yours. It&#039;s not a trick. I&#039;m not going to take it away at the last second. You know, I...um...I&#039;m just gonna talk right now. I don&#039;t expect you to say anything. Back on Caprica, before the attack—and sometimes I forget there was a world before the attack—I knew someone…a woman, unlike any other woman I&#039;d ever known. She was unique. Beautiful, clever, intensely sensual. When she wasn&#039;t in my bed, she was in my thoughts. She was a Cylon. And she changed my life in a very real, very fundamental way in that I have quite literally never stopped thinking about her, because I love her. To this very day, I love her. And she looks exactly like you. My name is Gaius Baltar, and I&#039;m here to help you.&lt;br /&gt;
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* {{audio|Pegasus - I&#039;m getting my men.mp3|&#039;&#039;Cain and Adama are discussing Helo and Tyrol&#039;s court-martial over wireless&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: You told me they&#039;d get a fair trial. What kind of a trial could they have possibly had?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I assure you I heard them out. I weighed their statements against those of the guards and I took into consideration their service records and commendations. It was a difficult decision, Commander, but I dare say it was a fair one.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: They have the right to have their case heard by a jury.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I am a flag officer on detached service during a time of war. Regulations give me broad authority in this matter.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Tigh): Launch the fighters. (to Cain): You can quote me whatever regulation you&#039;d like. I&#039;m not going to let you execute my men.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I highly suggest you reconsider that statement, Commander.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fisk&#039;&#039;&#039;: Admiral, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is launching Vipers and a Raptor.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: Commander, why are you launching Vipers?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Please arrange for Chief Tyrol and Lieutenant Agathon to be handed over to my marines as soon as they arrive. &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I don&#039;t take orders from you!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Call it whatever you like. I&#039;m getting my men.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: You are making such a mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I&#039;m getting my men.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Graham Beckel]] as Colonel [[Jack Fisk]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Pyper-Ferguson]] as Captain [[Cole Taylor|Cole &amp;quot;Stinger&amp;quot; Taylor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sebastian Spence]] as [[Narcho]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fulvio Cecere]] as Lt. [[Alastair Thorne]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vincent Gale]] as Chief [[Peter Laird]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Jonsson]] as Pegasus Guard #1&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;For information related the [[Mercury-class Battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; itself, see &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)]]&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For information about the extended DVD cut of this episode, see [[Pegasus (Extended Version)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Episode Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image = caingalact.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title=Pegasus&lt;br /&gt;
| series=&lt;br /&gt;
| season=2&lt;br /&gt;
| episode=10&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=[[Michelle Forbes]] as Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]]&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Anne Cofell Saunders]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story=&lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=210&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2005-09-23&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2006-03-14&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 2.0 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 2 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| population= 49605&lt;br /&gt;
| oldpopulation= 47853&lt;br /&gt;
| extra=&#039;&#039;&#039;Season 2.0 Cliffhanger&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast=Y&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;[[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]] happily discovers that the [[Mercury class battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; has survived the destruction of the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Colonies]], only to have [[Helena Cain|Admiral Cain]] take command of &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; and enforce her own hardcore military doctrine on the Fleet.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, a [[Mercury class battlestar]], has joined the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]].  She survived the attack by [[blind-jump]]ing as the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] attacked the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A large Cylon fleet of two [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s, approximately one dozen support ships and an [[Unknown Cylon Ship]] have been trailing the Fleet. &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; detected this fleet, which in turn led them to find &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; discovered this Cylon fleet and has been carrying out hit-and-run attacks against the Cylons.  At first the Cylon fleet&#039;s course seemed to be random, until Cain realized they were going to systems with natural resources.&lt;br /&gt;
* After looking over &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; logs, Cain surmises that the Cylon fleet was following &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; (which itself was Jumping to systems with natural resources for the Fleet). &lt;br /&gt;
* Upon assuming command of the Fleet, Cain moves crew members around, citing discipline concerns, transferring [[Lee Adama]] and [[Kara Thrace]] to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  This is in spite of her initial promise not to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
* President [[Laura Roslin]] has concerns about why Cain ignores her requests to talk and, more importantly, why &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is only resupplying &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; military stores and ignoring the Fleet&#039;s needs.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tyrol welcomes his counterpart from &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. [[Peter Laird]] is a civilian aeronautical engineer-turned Deck Chief who designed the [[DDG-62|old engines]] in the [[Blackbird]]. Laird is both appalled and impressed by Tyrol&#039;s new stealth fighter.&lt;br /&gt;
* Captain Adama is essentially busted down to [[Raptor]] pilot in a recon mission to the Cylon fleet. He shows his defiant side by asking Starbuck (who is pulled off the recon mission herself for insubordination) to commandeer the [[Blackbird]] for better recon photos of the Cylon fleet, all without being noticed by Colonial &#039;&#039;or&#039;&#039; Cylon forces.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Galen Tyrol]] discover that [[Gina]], the Cylon prisoner aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, was raped by the crew as a form of torture. They rush to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s brig, where a &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; lieutenant, [[Alastair Thorne]], is about to rape the Caprica copy of [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Sharon Valerii]]. Tyrol throws Thorne against a bulkhead, accidentally killing him. The pair are arrested and taken to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. [[image:pegasus02.jpg|left|thumb|Battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Commander Adama is angered at Admiral Cain&#039;s convening of courts-martial for the men on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, not &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; where the offense occurred. Admiral Cain refuses to return the prisoners and balks at the thought of an independent tribunal to settle the dispute.  Using Adama&#039;s logs against him once more, she notes that the [[Litmus|last time &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; held a tribunal]], Commander Adama dissolved the tribunal when he &amp;quot;didn&#039;t like the verdict.&amp;quot;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Cain rapidly decides the verdict by herself hours later and orders Helo and Tyrol to be executed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Upon discovering what Admiral Cain&#039;s hasty execution order, Commander Adama orders a Raptor to fly out with an armed [[Marine]] boarding party, and launches &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; Vipers against &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, demanding that Admiral Cain release [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Galen Tyrol]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Cain launches &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;&#039; Vipers against the incoming Vipers from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  They close in on each other as the episode ends.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The episode ran over time and a lot of the background information was cut from the television release. However the deleteted scenes were restored for the DVD release to create a 5-act episode. These changes are detailed in the &amp;quot;[[Pegasus (Extended Version)]]&amp;quot; article.&lt;br /&gt;
* This episode has been nominated for the [[Awards and Honors|2006 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Population count is 49,605, a dramatic increase of 1,752 since the 47,853 count in &amp;quot;[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&amp;quot;, undoubtedly to account for the addition of &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; and her crew to the Colonial Fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
**Cain notes that Pegasus lost 700 crew in the opening attack. Thus we may speculate that at the time of the attack her crew totaled to approximately 2,460.&lt;br /&gt;
***This number does not take into account any casualties that may have occurred because of the attack on the Cylon staging area, or any subsequent encounters with the Cylons. &lt;br /&gt;
***This is substantially smaller than &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&#039;s crew, explained by many of Cain&#039;s crew being on leave at the time of the attack and mainly increased automation due to newer technology.&lt;br /&gt;
***Also, as [[Peter Laird|Laird]] indicates, many civilians were pressed into service. So the number of actual pre-Holocaust &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew members may be far less than indicated above.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] flies wingman to [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] in the opening sequence of this episode, as the [[CAP]] scouts &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. Evidently she&#039;s been judged fit to resume flight status after negligently damaging a Viper due to overuse of [[Stims]] in &amp;quot;[[Final Cut]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* As the episode ends,the bulk of &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;s&#039;&#039; Viper fleet consist of the Mark IIs, while &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; had the Mark VIIs.  A classic picture of &amp;quot;old vs. new&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**While &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; seems to have entirely Viper Mk. VIIs, they would presumably have had to removed most of the automated systems from them (to prevent Cylon virus infiltration). Doing this makes them more difficult to fly (&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; few Mk. VII&#039;s are only used by the most capable pilots now). &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;s&#039;&#039; pilots might have more advanced fighters but they aren&#039;t as reliable now as the tried-and-true Mk. IIs.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Helena Cain]] is the female version of [[Cain (TOS)|Cain]], who was portrayed by the late [[Lloyd Bridges]] in the original &#039;&#039;[[Battlestar Galactica (1978)|Battlestar Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
* This episode is inspired by the two part episode, &amp;quot;[[The Living Legend, Part I (TOS)|The Living Legend]]&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] also wrote another episode called [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Pegasus The Pegasus], in the seventh season of &#039;&#039;Star Trek: The Next Generation&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, when the episode came back from commercial at the start of Act 3 a &amp;quot;Viewer Discretion Is Advised&amp;quot; black and white message was inserted, warning of &amp;quot;mature subject matter&amp;quot; and content. The following final act of the episode shows drunken &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crewmen bragging about raping the Humanoid Cylon known as Gina, then the scene where Lt.Thorne attempts to rape Caprica-Sharon and Tyrol and Agathon intervene and fight the marine guards appears.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew wear a white version of the Colonial patch on their uniforms instead of the gold version used by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
**Apollo and Starbuck do not switch to this version after their transfer to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, in this or subsequent episodes.&lt;br /&gt;
*Baltar makes an etiquette flub, referring to Admiral Cain as &amp;quot;Commander&amp;quot;; she promptly corrects him &amp;quot;Admiral!&amp;quot; and he apologizes.  This might be a little in-joke that in the Original Series, Cain was a Commander, and did not outrank Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cally Henderson]]&#039;s charged reaction to the drunken &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crewmen bragging about raping Gina repeatedly is probably due to herself being the survivor of an attempted rape, in &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;. This disgust with the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew&#039;s gang-rape of Gina is interesting in light of the fact that Henderson had no compunctions about killing [[Sharon Valerii|&amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]]. Evidently she now acknowledges the Cylons&#039; humanity in at least some measure. &lt;br /&gt;
*Women don&#039;t appreciate talk about rape in general. [[RDM]] indicates something to this effect [[Podcast:Pegasus#Act 3|in the podcast]].&lt;br /&gt;
*It is interesting on a dramatic level how the portrayal of Cally&#039;s killing of Valerii in &amp;quot;[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]&amp;quot; contrasts with the portrayal of the brutalized Gina and the attempted rape of [[Sharon Agathon|Caprica-Valerii]]. It was less shocking to many to watch Boomer being shot to death than it was to watch Caprica-Valerii being pinned down over her bunk and almost raped—possibly because, while killing a Valerii copy is an understandable act of revenge, raping one would be a senseless act of cruelty.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the [[Miniseries]], Adama first proposes that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; will go about independent of the rest of the fleet and fight the Cylons. Roslin persuades him to instead protect and lead the fleet on their escape from the colonies. The &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, in contrast, &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; travel about independently attacking the Cylons. The condition of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;&#039;s crew may be an indication of what would have happened to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; if she stood and fought.&lt;br /&gt;
*In contrast to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s nearly evenly gender-divided crew, the crew of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; seems predominantly male to a very high degree. Admiral Cain is the only female aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; with a speaking role, with only a couple other females visible in the hallways or in the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; ready room. This stands in notable contrast to Ron Moore&#039;s egalitarian vision of gender issues in the military, and might have been an intentional decision made during production. In addition, the dialogue of the drunken &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crewmen suggests they&#039;ve perhaps forgotten how to act around women— they either ignore or fail to understand Cally&#039;s and [[Diana Seelix|Seelix&#039;s]] disgust with their talk about gang-raping Gina. This may be a contributing factor to the behavior of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew, the relative paucity of women aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and the resulting sexual frustration could have led to the overly regimented, authoritarian, and brutal culture the crew developed, culminating in the senseless, repeated gang rape of the Cylon prisoner [[Gina]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Not simply relying on her rank, Admiral Cain asserts her dominance in more subtle ways as soon as she sets foot on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. Despite the fact that she&#039;s bringing one ship to join dozens, she welcomes &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; back to the Colonial Fleet, thus defining the Fleet as wherever she is. Later she tells Roslin &#039;You look like I just shot your dog&#039; when she asserts her authority over Adama. Both of these acts give some show of being welcoming or friendly, but also claim her spot at the top of the food chain. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Laird|Laird]], &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039; &#039;&#039; deck chief, refers to events since &amp;quot;the war happened&amp;quot;.  Admiral Cain and her &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew seem to still consider fighting against the Cylons to be a war, while in the [[Miniseries]] Commander Adama admitted that &amp;quot;the war is over, we lost&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Visual effects gaffe: When viewers are cut to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; exterior as Adama makes his way to the bridge, it is behind and slightly above and to the left of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. When seen again a few minutes later as it launches Vipers towards &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, it&#039;s quite a distance away from the fleet, above it and facing its left side.  Both ships may have just quickly moved into attack position while Adama was on the phone with Cain.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thrace&#039;s criticism of Taylor&#039;s reconaissance plan - that the Cylons would never leave such an obvious blind spot unaccounted for - is the same criticism she made of Tigh&#039;s initial assault plan in &amp;quot;[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*There are problems with Admiral Cain&#039;s statement that she has broad authority due to being a flag officer on detached service during a time of war. The military command structure of the Colonial Fleet no longer exists on the Twelve Colonies. All existing Colonial authorities, both military and civilian, are right where Cain is, so she is not actually &amp;quot;detached&amp;quot; from anywhere. Also, Adama and Roslin decided that the official war is over, though Cain would obviously never accept that.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Will Starbuck and her [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter play a role in the armed standoff between &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;? ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Where did the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew get fresh fruit? ([[Scylla|Probable answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*In the absence of Apollo and Starbuck, who is leading &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; fighters against &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;? ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What is the function of the unknown Cylon ship? ([[Resurrection Ship|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Does the Blackbird have FTL? ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Why are so many Viper pilots tasked with a recon mission carried out by Raptors? Did &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; lose many Raptor pilots?&lt;br /&gt;
* How did Cain and her crew discover the existence of humanoid Cylon models? ([[Pegasus (Extended Version)|Possible answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements == &lt;br /&gt;
*In an [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm interview with BattlestarGalactica.com on December 28th, 2005] RDM was asked about controversy surrounding this episode:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Q: Walt Kelly&#039;s Pogo used the phrase &amp;quot;the enemy is us&amp;quot; as part of a 1970&#039;s anti-litter campaign, and recently David Eick has cited it as a theme in the longer Pegasus arc of the second season. Some of the show&#039;s vocal critics charge that this notion promotes a &amp;quot;Blame America&amp;quot; attitude or is a sort of stealth anti-Americanism. What is this concept supposed to convey as we head into the bottom half of the second season? &lt;br /&gt;
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:RDM: The reference is to the fact that human beings are often their own worst enemy. In the context of the show, it means that the real challenges to who and what these people are often comes not from bullets, but from within. I continue to be amazed at how easily one gets tagged with the moniker of &amp;quot;anti-American&amp;quot; these days by those on the right. It&#039;s almost... well, anti-American.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* From [http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/aaron_douglas_01.htm TheSciFiWorld.net&#039;s inverview] with [[Aaron Douglas]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Gilles Nuytens:&#039;&#039;&#039; I read some critics about the &amp;quot;rape&amp;quot; scene shown in the last episode aired, as you played in this scene, what&#039;s your opinion on it?&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;&#039;Aaron Douglas:&#039;&#039;&#039; BSG is a reflection of real life and these types of events go on everyday. Many people were upset by it but to me they need to realize that this is the world we live in. Does that mean they have or want to watch? Absolutely not but do not discount it as sensationalism. What we shot was so much more graphic than what was aired and I understand why they did not use it. In what aired the rape had not totally begun. It was suggestive. I thought it was a good scene and on point with the story and not added to draw in viewers. That suggestion is absurd. I know Ron Moore very well and he is not the kind of person or writer to add scenes purely for sensationalistic or ratings purposes. They have to be on point, truthfully reflect the situation and today&#039;s world and be relevant to the story or they are not there. It also amazes me that people have no problem with beatings, shootings, bombings, stabbings etc. but show a breast, a bottom, or a grope and they fly off the wall to condemn it.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This happens in all areas of film, television and theatre and it is ridiculous.&lt;br /&gt;
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* From [http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2674 Hollywood North Report: Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part II], article on filming the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I|series finale]] and an interview with [[Mary McDonnell]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Robert Falconer:&#039;&#039;&#039; Speaking of bleak, you had some pretty strong feelings about how people reacted to that rape scene at the end of Pegasus, and the overall problem of how violence against women tends to be portrayed on television.&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Mary McDonnell]]&#039;&#039;&#039;: I have strong feelings about this as a woman; it’s a huge button for me, the issue of violence against women on television and how much of this stuff we’re going to pump out there before it becomes an accepted point of view that that’s what happens to women, and no-one takes responsibility and there’s no consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But there’s a big difference between crystallizing it inside a genre that doesn’t do it very often; making it part of one story one week, and the mainstream, non-sci-fi television where we become used to seeing women being raped and killed and mutilated—and other horrible things. &#039;&#039;That’s&#039;&#039; the sad thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So for me, the fact that it was so upsetting to people when presented on &#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039; is a very good thing. It &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be upsetting. It &#039;&#039;needs&#039;&#039; to be very, very upsetting. One &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; watch it and think, “I don’t want to see that!” We shouldn’t be using the fragility or vulnerability of the female body as a “technique” around which to build entertainment.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I believe if &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; were doing that sort of thing all the time, then the show would have a problem. But the way it was portrayed enables people to dialogue and talk about these sorts of things. Fires should be lit. And we should hear. Then you know if you’re in the ballpark of something that is really relevant, or if you’re being exploitive. And I have a lot of respect for the people who got upset as well as the people who wrote it.&lt;br /&gt;
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* From [http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=2363 Hollywood North Report: Battlestar Galactica Set Visit, Part I], which includes an interview with [[Edward James Olmos]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Robert Falconer&#039;&#039;&#039;: By the end of “Pegasus,” Adama makes a decision with potentially sweeping consequences, but one that logically follows from everything that has happened to him up to that point. Is this a decision he will be able to live with as a military leader?&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Edward James Olmos&#039;&#039;&#039;: I think Adama’s decision to attack the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; could be interpreted as strictly military in nature. You don’t leave anybody behind, and protecting your men is a fundamental tenet of any military leader. In fact, you could argue that he has no consideration for anyone OTHER than his military guys aboard the Pegasus—he’s not thinking about the fleet at that moment, he’s not even thinking about the future of either of those two battlestars, because they’re going to blast each other to bits, since he’s not going to give into Cain’s craziness.&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Robert&#039;&#039;&#039;: The rape scene toward the end of “Pegasus” has stirred up a lot of controversy in certain quarters. Ironically, there seems to be something of a disconnect here; people seem more willing to accept this in contemporary mainstream drama than they do in television science fiction, almost as if they’ve become conditioned to science fiction presenting a sanitized view of the future. Any thoughts on that?&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Edward James Olmos&#039;&#039;&#039;: Well for those who were particularly upset by the scene to which you refer, I pray to god they don’t watch because it’s only going to get worse. They should be warned right now: please turn off your television sets and do not watch this show because it’s only going to provide more insight into the complexities of what happens to human beings. I would say that the minority of people who were freaked out by the rape scene are likely to be jarred into unconsciousness. So I say to them: do not watch this program, it could be hazardous to your health.&lt;br /&gt;
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: For everyone else, hang on, ‘cause it’s gonna be a helluva ride…&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Leah Cairns]] discusses a humorous incident while shooting the episode:&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Leah Cairns]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; One of the funniest things shooting a specific scene happened when we were shooting a scene where &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; meets &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. A scene with [[Michelle Forbes]] in it when Forbes and [[William Adama|Adama]] see each other in the hanger deck. [[Edward James Olmos|Eddie [James Olmos]]] wandered off set in the middle of shooting. He thought we were on a little break, and he wandered off, and [[Michael Rymer]], the director didn&#039;t notice and called action! It was a close up on Michelle Forbes and Rymer had no idea that Eddie wasn&#039;t there. And Michelle Forbes being the professional that she is.... when the camera is rolling you do your business..... so she started the scene! But there was no one to respond to her! So [[James Callis]] nonchalantly comes over and steps into Eddie&#039;s place and puts on the best Adama voice you&#039;d ever heard! Better than Eddie can do! (laughs) And they did the entire scene with Michelle and James Callis as Adama, and Michelle almost pulled it off, except [[Mary McDonnell|Mary [McDonnell]]] got the giggles and started laughing and then all the background started laughing and Michael Rymer, who STILL doesn&#039;t know that Eddie left, comes out and starts yelling at everybody because we were all laughing during the take! And then he looks around and says ....where the hell is Eddie and realizes that the whole scene was bogus!&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Gilles Nuytens:&#039;&#039;&#039; It seems funny yeah. What was the reaction of Michelle Forbes?&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;&#039;Leah Cairns:&#039;&#039;&#039; She was so great! There was this tiny little hint.... you could see in her eyes just a tiny bit that... I think she thought she&#039;d just go along with it until Michael Rymer actually figured it out. But Callis just steps in and starts talking like Adama.... so she just went with it! She was trying so hard to keep it together! Sometimes in situations like that some really great moments can come about and sometimes magic can happen on camera ...... but Mary just couldn&#039;t keep it together and started laughing and Michelle ... what can she do? She killed herself laughing! The only person who didn&#039;t laugh was Callis, he was dead pan through the entire thing. He was so set on playing Adama, he was just awesome!&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;sfw&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_web|url=http://www.thescifiworld.net/interviews/leah_cairns_01.htm|title=The Scifi World: Leah Cairns interview|date=21 March 2007|accessdate=10 April 2007|last=Nuytens|first=Giles|format=|language=}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{audio|Pegasus - I&#039;m here to help you.mp3|&#039;&#039;Speaking to Gina&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: The food is yours. It&#039;s not a trick. I&#039;m not going to take it away at the last second. You know, I...um...I&#039;m just gonna talk right now. I don&#039;t expect you to say anything. Back on Caprica, before the attack—and sometimes I forget there was a world before the attack—I knew someone…a woman, unlike any other woman I&#039;d ever known. She was unique. Beautiful, clever, intensely sensual. When she wasn&#039;t in my bed, she was in my thoughts. She was a Cylon. And she changed my life in a very real, very fundamental way in that I have quite literally never stopped thinking about her, because I love her. To this very day, I love her. And she looks exactly like you. My name is Gaius Baltar, and I&#039;m here to help you.&lt;br /&gt;
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* {{audio|Pegasus - I&#039;m getting my men.mp3|&#039;&#039;Cain and Adama are discussing Helo and Tyrol&#039;s court-martial over wireless&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: You told me they&#039;d get a fair trial. What kind of a trial could they have possibly had?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I assure you I heard them out. I weighed their statements against those of the guards and I took into consideration their service records and commendations. It was a difficult decision, Commander, but I dare say it was a fair one.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: They have the right to have their case heard by a jury.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I am a flag officer on detached service during a time of war. Regulations give me broad authority in this matter.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Tigh): Launch the fighters. (to Cain): You can quote me whatever regulation you&#039;d like. I&#039;m not going to let you execute my men.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I highly suggest you reconsider that statement, Commander.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fisk&#039;&#039;&#039;: Admiral, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is launching Vipers and a Raptor.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: Commander, why are you launching Vipers?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Please arrange for Chief Tyrol and Lieutenant Agathon to be handed over to my marines as soon as they arrive. &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: I don&#039;t take orders from you!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Call it whatever you like. I&#039;m getting my men.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cain&#039;&#039;&#039;: You are making such a mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I&#039;m getting my men.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Graham Beckel]] as Colonel [[Jack Fisk]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Pyper-Ferguson]] as Captain [[Cole Taylor|Cole &amp;quot;Stinger&amp;quot; Taylor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sebastian Spence]] as [[Narcho]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fulvio Cecere]] as Lt. [[Alastair Thorne]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vincent Gale]] as Chief [[Peter Laird]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Jonsson]] as Pegasus Guard #1&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Final Cut</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* Analysis */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Episode Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image = s2finalcut.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title=Final Cut&lt;br /&gt;
| series=&lt;br /&gt;
| season=2&lt;br /&gt;
| episode=8&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=[[Lucy Lawless]] as [[D&#039;anna Biers]]&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Mark Verheiden]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story=&lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Robert Young]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=208&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2005-09-09 &lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2006-02-28&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 2.0 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 2 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| population= 47853&lt;br /&gt;
| oldpopulation= 47855&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Home, Part II]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast=Y&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;In an effort to stem [[The Fleet|the Fleet]]&#039;s growing resentment toward the military, [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] and [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] allow an outspoken anti-military journalist complete access to the [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] and its crew.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary == &lt;br /&gt;
*Reporter [[D&#039;anna Biers]] is preparing a special report on what she&#039;s hyped as the &amp;quot;[[Gideon massacre]]&amp;quot;, when she is escorted by [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] to &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*President [[Laura Roslin]] and Commander [[William Adama]] meet her, and she complains that all of her requests to interview Marines involved with the Gideon incident have been denied.  Roslin and Adama tell her that all that is about to change:  they want to mend the relationship between the military and the civilian fleet by allowing Biers to shoot a documentary on life on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with unrestricted access.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Biers and her cameraman [[Bell]] are flown to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with Adama in [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&#039;s Raptor.  On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]] is given the task of showing them around, pointing out fairly everyday things like carbon dioxide scrubbers for atmosphere and vegetable refrigeration units--information that Biers writes off as trivial.&lt;br /&gt;
*Biers starts filming one-on-one interviews with several crewmen.  She asks Dualla why she joined the Fleet, and she says her father didn&#039;t approve but she wanted to believe in something.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Biers and her cameraman are walking through the halls when [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan &amp;quot;Hot Dog&amp;quot; Costanza]] and [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]] chase each other out of the showers wearing towels.  Biers follows them into the senior pilots&#039; locker room, where [[Lee Adama|Captain Lee &amp;quot;Apollo&amp;quot; Adama]], (who nearly drops his towel accidentally) tells her to respect their privacy and get out.  Kat moons the documentary camera, and gets yelled at by her [[CAG]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Dressing_Room.jpg|thumb|left|Camera crew filming certain awkwardness in the locker room]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ellen Tigh]] calls Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] down to their quarters, where someone has left a threat for Saul by writing a line of Caprican poetry in red paint on their mirror.&lt;br /&gt;
*Biers then interviews Lee, and she accuses him of thinking the pilots deserve preferential treatment.  He tells her that he does think they deserve such treatment; despite suffering as much loss as everyone else they risk their lives every day for the fleet, and while they don&#039;t need pity, they do deserve respect.&lt;br /&gt;
*Biers interviews Private [[Scott Kelso]], one of the Marines involved in the &#039;&#039;[[Gideon]]&#039;&#039; shootings.  He insists that he and the other Marines were just doing their jobs, and that the &amp;quot;unarmed civilians&amp;quot; were attacking them, and that he has a scar on this head that required ten stitches to prove it.  At the same time, Kelso thinks the whole thing was a &amp;quot;command [[frak]]-up&amp;quot;; that the Marines weren&#039;t trained for crowd control, and he isn&#039;t surprised that someone wants to kill Colonel Tigh.&lt;br /&gt;
*Biers then interviews a disheveled Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta]], who is smoking a cigarette while displaying a level of frustration and fatigue that he doesn&#039;t normally show.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the [[Hangar Deck]], Kat yells at [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] when her [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] malfunctions, although it wasn&#039;t the Chief&#039;s fault.  [[Kara Thrace|Lieutenant Kara &amp;quot;Starbuck&amp;quot; Thrace]] breaks it up (as Biers follows her) and Kat storms out.&lt;br /&gt;
*Biers is then allowed into the [[CIC]], where Commander Adama orders Colonel Tigh to attend a meeting of civilian leaders on &#039;&#039;[[Cloud Nine]]&#039;&#039;, which Adama thinks will be a good chance for them to vent their frustration instead of seething at Tigh in private.  However,  as his [[Raptor]] is about to depart, it malfunctions and smokes until a damage control team can put it out.  Tigh gets out and Tyrol tells him it looks like someone sabotaged the Raptor with a hammer, and if they had gotten into space the atmosphere inside would have vented, killing him.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] lights a candle for her lost loved ones in the memorial hallway, and is then interviewed by Biers.  She tells Biers that she assumes that she&#039;s already as good as dead going out on missions, and she just hopes she can kill as many Cylons as possible before her day comes.&lt;br /&gt;
*D&#039;anna also interviews [[Karl Agathon|Lt. Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]], who says that in combat you&#039;re supposed to turn off the human part of you because it will get you killed, but that nothing is that easy to do.&lt;br /&gt;
*Helo then visits [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Caprica-Valerii]] in the [[brig]], where she in unresponsive in her bed until pulling a blood-stained hand from under her sheets and sobbing.  Helo calls for [[Cottle|Doctor Cottle]] to come right away.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] gives an interview to Biers which is emotionally unrestrained.  She then freaks out while attempting to land her Viper, and despite [[Aaron Kelly|Captain Kelly]] and Thrace trying to talk her down, she misses three passes, then on the final try crashes her Viper into the [[landing bay]].  Biers follows Thrace and Lee to the flight deck.  Getting out of her Viper, Kat is incomprehensible and disoriented.  Thrace finds [[Stims]] on Kat&#039;s person: Kat had been taking them by the fistful to stay alert, and now she has overdosed.  Kat is forcibly strapped down to a gurney while kicking and screaming and taken to [[Sickbay]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Biers follows Kat to Sickbay, where she accidentally goes behind a curtain and sees Doctor Cottle arguing with the terrified Sharon Valerii; Cottle is trying to save her baby before Valerii has a miscarriage.  Biers is then shoved away, but not before catching Valerii on film.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Later, Commander Adama arrives in sickbay and demands that Biers hand over the tape.  Biers notes that the woman she saw looked exactly like the deceased [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Lt. Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]], and that news that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is harboring a Cylon could turn the Fleet against him.  Adama counters that, after the &#039;&#039;Gideon&#039;&#039; incident, this new revelation could devastate morale in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], and whether that even matters to Biers.  Reluctantly, Biers gives him the tape and he leaves.  When Adama is out of sight, D&#039;anna pulls the &#039;&#039;real&#039;&#039; tape out of her shirt.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Baltar begins a less than great interview with Biers but is interrupted when an [[Action Stations|action stations alarm]] goes off:  two Raiders are on a collision course with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  Biers heads to the CIC to film there while her cameraman covers the flight deck.  We only see the fight from the perspective of those on the ship listening over the radio; the Raiders are destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Saul Tigh returns to his quarters to find Ellen tied up.  It turns out that his would-be murder is [[Joe Palladino]], who is distraught that Tigh&#039;s orders resulted in innocent people being killed by men under Palladino&#039;s command.  He pulls a gun on Tigh, but Tigh presses the gun to his forehead and talks Palladino down. As Biers reviews the tape, she sees Palladino reading a book by [[Kataris]] (which she recognises as containing the poetry line used to threaten Tigh), and alerts the crew. The marines rush to Tigh&#039;s quarters, where they see Palladino and take him away.&lt;br /&gt;
*Back on &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039;, Roslin, Adama, and Tigh review Biers&#039; finished documentary.  Adama decides that he likes the accurate portrayal that she did, and lets them broadcast it across the entire fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CylonsTheater FinalCut.JPG|thumb|right|The humanoid Cylons watching the documentary.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*In the documentary, Biers does an ending voiceover where as the music swells in the background she explains that the story of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is that they&#039;ll never give up.  As people watch it on monitor screens throughout the Fleet.....&lt;br /&gt;
*...the humanoid Cylons are watching the documentary as well in an abandoned movie theater on Cylon-occupied [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]]. A copy of [[Number Six]] is impressed at the resilience of the humans, and asks about the fate of Caprica-Valerii&#039;s baby.  A second, Caprica-based copy of D&#039;anna Biers then turns around (Biers is now revealed to have been a [[humanoid Cylon]] the whole time), and tells her that both Caprica-Valerii and her baby survived her near-miscarriage.  [[Aaron Doral]] says that the baby must be protected at all costs, and they must proceed with caution.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The population count is now 47,853, a loss of two since &amp;quot;[[Home, Part II]]&amp;quot;, to account for the two [[Tom Zarek]] henchmen killed in that episode.&lt;br /&gt;
*D&#039;anna Biers makes the same comment about Baltar that Roslin made in &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*We finally learn [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]]&#039;s first name as she is interviewed by [[D&#039;anna Biers]]: &#039;&#039;Anastasia&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gaeta&#039;s first name is revealed as &#039;&#039;[[Felix Gaeta|Felix]]&#039;&#039;. He also shows a wild side in the form of a tattoo on his chest, which he got when he was drunk, and he has taken up smoking.  Perhaps this isn&#039;t so much a sign of a previously unrevealed wild side, but a sign that Gaeta&#039;s composure is starting to get frayed from constant stress. &#039;&#039;(This is confirmed in the following episode, &amp;quot;[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&amp;quot;)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[ECO]] known as Racetrack is given a full name: &#039;&#039;[[Margaret Edmondson]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The music aired at the end of the documentary is the Colonial Fanfare last heard in the [[Miniseries]]: the theme from the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|original &amp;quot;Battlestar Galactica&amp;quot; TV series]].  In the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|re-imagined Battlestar Galactica]], it is the anthem of the Twelve Colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
*Adama uses the phrase &amp;quot;warts and all.&amp;quot; This phrase was coined by 17th-Century English dictator (&amp;quot;Lord Protector&amp;quot;) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell Oliver Cromwell].&lt;br /&gt;
*Timeline-wise, Col. Tigh says there has been no Cylon contacts for 10 days.  Col. Tigh was in command of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; for &amp;quot;over a week&amp;quot; (from &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
*Colonial video feeds are octagonal, but video screens are (oddly) rectangular.&lt;br /&gt;
*Capt. [[Aaron Kelly|Kelly]] appears fulfilling his duties as [[Landing Signal Officer]] by coordinating Viper landings.  This scene further explains the &amp;quot;where was Kelly between the Mini-Series and Season 2&amp;quot; question: Kelly doesn&#039;t work in the [[CIC]], but in the port [[Flight pod|flight pod]] itself.&lt;br /&gt;
*Roslin and Adama have not only buried the hatchet by this episode, but are working jointly and appear to have developed a camaraderie.&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode contains the first scene on &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039; since &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Cultural/Linguistic oddity: Apollo refers to Kat and Hot Dog as &amp;quot;tweedledum and tweedledee&amp;quot;, a reference to [[Wikipedia:Lewis Carroll|Lewis Carroll]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In Helo&#039;s interview with D&#039;anna Biers, the caption reads &amp;quot;Karl C. Agathon, Lieutenant, CF&amp;quot;.  This is not just a clipped writing of &amp;quot;Lieutenant, Junior Grade&amp;quot;:  according to an [http://scifibrain.ign.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=3165&amp;amp;Itemid=0 interview] with [[Tahmoh Penikett]], when Helo returned to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; after being stranded on Caprica for months he was promoted to full Lieutenant. However he had been wearing full Lieutenant rank insignia from the beginning of the series.&lt;br /&gt;
*The original airdate was to be September 2nd, 2005. However, SciFi Channel ran a Stargate SG-1 Viewers Choice Marathon for the [[Wikipedia:Labor Day|Labor Day]] Weekend.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons deployed two [[Raider]]s to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to transmit Biers&#039;s video documentary back to Caprica. Does this mean the Cylons know &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; where [[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]] is, and have simply chosen &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; to intercept it?  Is keeping the Fleet alive part of their &amp;quot;Plan&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
** Possibly, in the &amp;quot;de-briefing&amp;quot; towards the end of the episode, Caprica-Biers means the two Raiders transmitted the footage she cut from the documentary (showing Helo&#039;s Boomer in sickbay). It is likely they meant that they picked up the whole &amp;quot;show&amp;quot; from Fleet transmissions and the snippet from the two Raiders. &lt;br /&gt;
**Or, are the Cylons &#039;&#039;now&#039;&#039; refraining from sending in a full [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] and Raider wing to attack &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; because they are worried that a direct attack on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; will result in the death of Caprica-Valerii and her hybrid daughter? That is, they would have attacked it if this Valerii wasn&#039;t on board, but was sending two Raiders in now simply a reconnaissance mission?  The Cylons did say that they want to proceed cautiously.  &lt;br /&gt;
**However, the two Raiders didn&#039;t jump in to the Fleet&#039;s vicinity, they flew in normally.  Perhaps the Cylons actually &#039;&#039;don&#039;t&#039;&#039;  know exactly where the Fleet is, and these Raiders may have been searching for days to find them.  Seeing as the Cylons on Caprica weren&#039;t aware that the Caprica-Valerii was still alive, perhaps they also truly aren&#039;t aware of the Fleet&#039;s location, and other Cylons in the Fleet cannot transmit messages back to Caprica because they are out of range (though a nearby Cylon ship might be close enough). (&#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (episode)|Answer]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
**In light of all this, have the Cylons &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; been using their entire strength against the Colonials in combat?  Have they, in effect, been &amp;quot;toying&amp;quot; with them?  This could explain the relative lop-sidedness of the Colonials&#039; military victories since the initial destruction of the Colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
*While preparing to film the interview with Dr. Baltar, Biers pulls out what is presumably the contraband tape of Sharon and hurriedly does something with it.  This is likely a subtle foreshadowing that may not be fully comprehended until Biers&#039;s true nature is revealed and the episode is watched again; Biers was likely remembering that she has to set up the transmission of the video to the Cylons in the upcoming attack.  The raiders, after being destroyed, then resurrect and the data stream transmitted from Biers is now available to all Cylons via their common knowledgebase.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dualla states that Galactica&#039;s carbon dioxide scrubbers run &amp;quot;24 hours a day&amp;quot;; this would seem to establish that the Colonial Fleet operates on a 24-hour day.  This could possibly be based on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]]&#039;s orbital rotation (where the seat of the [[government]] was located). Yet, all 12 Colonies couldn&#039;t possible all have the same axial rotation time.  This 24 hour day might seem an automatic assumption, but other science fiction series sometimes depart from the convention:  For example, on &#039;&#039;[[memoryalpha:Star Trek:Deep Space Nine|Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]&#039;&#039;, the titular space station actually runs on a 26 hour day, because it follows Bajor&#039;s local time (which has a 26 hour rotation period).&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039;, Roslin is no longer surrounded by her [[Presidential Security Service]] agents, but rather by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; Marines - Adama&#039;s insurance against any more misbehavior? Perhaps they were only there to escort Commander Adama while he was off of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions == &lt;br /&gt;
*Does Biers&#039; discovery of pregnant Caprica-Valerii on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; alter her intended goal with the documentary?&lt;br /&gt;
*Would the documentary have presented &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her crew in a more negative light and thus perform a journalistic hatchet job on how the rest of the fleet perceived Adama and the military?&lt;br /&gt;
*Would Adama and Roslin still have allowed the documentary to be broadcast if it had been &#039;negative?&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Now that the documentary has aired, with Biers&#039; image visibly throughout the film, has Sharon Valerii seen the film? Or, has the film been banned for her viewing?&lt;br /&gt;
*If she had viewed the documentary, would Valerii inform &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; command of Biers&#039; true nature, or the identity of other agents in the Fleet, if they were known to her?&lt;br /&gt;
*Why was Biers not included in any press pools that occurred prior to her finding the Gideon tape and therefore making the acquaintance of the President and Commander Adama?  Was she a tabloid reporter and not granted Presidential press room status?&lt;br /&gt;
*At the end of the episode, Biers says that the Cylons &amp;quot;lost two Raiders relaying the images back to &#039;&#039;the Fleet&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  She didn&#039;t say &amp;quot;from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; back to &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. Does this imply that there is a main Cylon fleet following &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;?  (That is, as opposed to many basestars spread out across a large region of space in a search pattern.) ([[Pegasus (episode)|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements == &lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;After meeting Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] for the first time:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039;  What a strange little man.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers is filming an interview with [[Lee Adama|Apollo]]:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039;  You seem to think that your pilots deserve special consideration.&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Apollo:&#039;&#039;&#039;  Actually, I do.  Like everyone else, my pilots have lost their families, their friends, everyone they ever cared about; but on top of that they&#039;re asked to put their lives on the line every single day, for a fleet that seems more interested in what they do wrong than in what they do right. They&#039;re not asking for your pity, but they damn well deserve your respect.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers is interviewing [[Racetrack]]:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039;  Are you afraid when you go into combat?&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Racetrack:&#039;&#039;&#039;  First thing they tell you is to assume you&#039;re already dead.  &lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039;  Well that sounds ghoulish.&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Racetrack:&#039;&#039;&#039;  Yeah, maybe.  But dead men don&#039;t get scared and freeze up under fire.  Me, I&#039;m just worried that hell&#039;s gonna be a lonely place, and I&#039;m gonna fill it up with every Toaster son of a bitch I find.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers is interviewing Lt. Gaeta.  Gaeta is slightly disheveled, and is smoking a cigarette:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Does that help you cope with the stress?&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Lt. Felix Gaeta:&#039;&#039;&#039; Not really.  Look, um, all that I ever wanted was to be an officer on a Battlestar, okay?  I trained my whole life, I trained harder than anyone in my unit.  Basically, I put my life on hold until I was assigned to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  Then the Cylons hit and I realized that this is all that I know:  tech manuals, commands, and tactics, you know?  I&#039;m not saying that I&#039;m unhappy...I&#039;m just wondering if there&#039;s something more.  &lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039; And what have you discovered?&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Lt. Felix Gaeta:&#039;&#039;&#039; ...(takes a long drag, coughs)...I hate cigarettes.  [[Ambrosia]]&#039;s good with a chaser.  And, if you have enough Ambrosia...(Gaeta pulls back his shirt to reveal an ugly tattoo of a tiger on his upper right chest)...it don&#039;t hurt that much.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;The closing voice-over narration to D&#039;anna Biers&#039; documentary on the Battlestar Galactica, which runs over a montage of images from the ship.  The Colonial Anthem tinkles in the background and gradually builds to up to a grand swell:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039;  I came to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to tell a story.  In all honesty I thought I knew what that story was before I ever set foot there:  how an arrogant military let their egos get in the way of doing their jobs, safeguarding the lives of the civilian population.  But I found out that the truth was more complex than that.  These people aren&#039;t Cylons.  They&#039;re not robots blindly following orders and polishing their boots.  They&#039;re people.  Deeply flawed, yes, but deeply human too, and maybe that&#039;s saying the same thing.  What struck me most is that despite it all - the hardships, the stress, the ever present danger of being killed - despite all that, they never give up.  They never lie down in the road and let the truck run them over.  They wake up in the morning, put on their uniforms and do their jobs.  Every day.  No pay, no rest, no hope of ever laying down the burden or letting someone else do the job.  There are no relief troops coming, no Colonial Fleet training new recruits every day.  The people on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; are &#039;&#039;it&#039;&#039;.  They are the thin line of blue that separates us from the Cylons.  Lt. Gaeta told me a remarkable statistic; not a single member of Galactica&#039;s crew has asked to resign, not one.  Think about that.  If you wore the uniform wouldn&#039;t you want to quit?  To step aside and say &amp;quot;Enough! Let someone else protect the fleet?&amp;quot;  I know I would.  But then, I don&#039;t wear a uniform.  Most of us don&#039;t, most of us never will.  The story of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; isn&#039;t that people make bad decisions under pressure, it&#039;s that those mistakes are the exception.  Most of the time the men and women serving under Commander Adama get it right.  The proof is that our fleet &#039;&#039;survives&#039;&#039;.  And with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; at our side, we &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; endure.  This is D&#039;anna Biers, Fleet News Service.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;The camera pulls back to show a movie theater on Cylon-occupied [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]], where the humanoid Cylons are watching a copy of the documentary, as D&#039;anna Biers&#039; ending narration finishes:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Aaron Doral:&#039;&#039;&#039; That was shown across their entire fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; Their resilience is remarkable.&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Valerii:&#039;&#039;&#039; Play the footage that was cut. (camera footage plays of Helo&#039;s Sharon in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; Sickbay)&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Valerii:&#039;&#039;&#039; I&#039;m still alive?!  She&#039;s still alive!  I told you.&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; That&#039;s incredible.  And the [[Hera Agathon|baby]]?&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039; (speaking without her usual New Zealand accent, but with a general American accent) It was saved.  We lost two Raiders relaying the images back to the Fleet, but I think the sacrifice was worth it.&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;Aaron Doral:&#039;&#039;&#039; We must proceed with caution.  The child&#039;s life must be protected at all costs.&lt;br /&gt;
*: &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;anna Biers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yeah.  Truly is a miracle from [[God]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Cottle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan &amp;quot;Hot Dog&amp;quot; Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Patrick &amp;quot;Flick&amp;quot; Harrison|Patrick Harrison]] as [[Bell]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kevan Kase]] as PFC [[Scott Kelso]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Yee Jee Tso]] as Staffer&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Curtis Lee Hicks]] as Marine Sergeant&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aleks Paunovic]] as Sergeant [[Omar Fischer|Fischer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jeremy Guilbaut]] as Lt. [[Joe Palladino|Joe Palladino]]&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Toaster&amp;diff=121844</id>
		<title>Toaster</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-15T02:46:26Z</updated>

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   {{Character Data| &lt;br /&gt;
    |photo= BSGToaster.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
    |age=About 2-8 weeks once purchased&lt;br /&gt;
    |colony=[[Earth]]&lt;br /&gt;
    |birthname=&amp;quot;My New Toaster!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
    |callsign=[http://www.proctorsilex.com/products/toasters_2slice/22450.html Cool-Touch]&lt;br /&gt;
    |death=When pushed aside by child, the ne&#039;er-do-well bagel-size slotted toaster, trashed.&lt;br /&gt;
    |parents=[http://www.dualit.com/content.asp?page=/catalogue/productRange.asp?categoryCode=15 Dualit], Perhaps other [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]&lt;br /&gt;
    |siblings=Gas Oven, Blender, Microwave Oven (adopted), Toaster Oven (despised)&lt;br /&gt;
    |children=Bagel-Sized Slotted Toasters (estranged)&lt;br /&gt;
    |marital status=Single (but usually double-slotted)&lt;br /&gt;
    |role=Maker of the quintessential breakfast food, or Destroyer of the Human Race&lt;br /&gt;
    |rank=&lt;br /&gt;
    |actor=ToastMaster&lt;br /&gt;
    |cylon=y&lt;br /&gt;
    |name= &lt;br /&gt;
    }}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The Toaster&#039;&#039;&#039; is a device on Earth renowned for its ability to make the popular breakfast food served with butter, jelly, eggs, or other confection. Toasters come in two, four, or even six-slot models.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Centurion_armor_old.jpg|thumb|left|A Cylon Centurion, which technically cannot make toast, but is known for toasting Colonies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The laudable term is also used as the nickname that the Colonials have for the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]], due to the fact that the original models resembled &amp;quot;walking chrome toasters&amp;quot; because of their highly reflective metal bodies and toaster slot-shaped visual sensor([[Miniseries]]). [[Cylon-Related_Hallucinations#Baltar.27s_Internal_Six|Number Six]] and [[Helo]] have both expressed that they consider &amp;quot;Toaster&amp;quot; to be an offensive racial epithet ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]], [[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The reference implies that toasting bread and other foods was just as enjoyable on the [[Twelve Colonies]] as on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ironically enough, it was the use of a toaster to make breakfast that drew the Cylon &amp;quot;toasters&amp;quot; attention to Helo&#039;s fallout shelter ([[You Can&#039;t Go Home Again]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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It can also be said that the Colonials enjoyed the act of shopping for toasters.  [[CAG]] [[Lee Adama]] enthusiastically made a point about shopping for toasters on [[Original Battlestar (RDM)|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, after the electricity (an important element for any toaster) went haywire ([[Valley of Darkness]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that a few [http://www.hammacher.com/publish/72500.asp# elite model] toasters have been known to communicate by sending or receiving &amp;quot;waves.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[w:Talkie Toaster#Talkie Toaster|Other]] [http://www.geocities.com/realm_of_toast/ models], usually produced by the Taiwanese company Crapola Inc, are well known for their [http://www.geocities.com/realm_of_toast/sounds/talkie_toaster.wav infamous greetings], and unhealthy toast obsessions, that are all but guaranteed to drive their owners &#039;spare&#039;. This condition often leads to an act of &#039;first degree toastercide&#039;, usually involving a 14lb lump hammer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[List of terms (RDM)|List of terms in the Re-imagined Series]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.fandomfilms.com/player/player.php?id=110 The anthem of toast lovers everywhere,] by Earth resident Heywood Banks.&lt;br /&gt;
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Valley_of_Darkness&amp;diff=121843</id>
		<title>Valley of Darkness</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-15T02:43:36Z</updated>

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| image =Valley_of_Darkness-Starbuck_Helo.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title=Valley of Darkness&lt;br /&gt;
| series=&lt;br /&gt;
| season=2&lt;br /&gt;
| episode=2&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Bradley Thompson]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; [[David Weddle]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story=&lt;br /&gt;
| goof=Y&lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=202&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2005-07-22&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2006-01-17&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 2.0 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 2 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast = Y&lt;br /&gt;
| population= 47874&lt;br /&gt;
| oldpopulation= 47875&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Scattered]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[Fragged]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;After rediscovering [[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]], [[Cylon Centurion]]s board &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039; and wreak havoc, while [[Lee Adama]] and a rag-tag group of pilots and marines attempt to thwart the Cylon&#039;s methodical plans.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* After [[FTL|jumping]] successfully to the Fleet&#039;s location once [[Scattered|rediscovering their actual location]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s power systems shut down unexpectedly. [[Jammer]] reports to Captain Adama that the [[sound-powered phone]]s are working, but jammed with other communications, so they cannot contact damage control.&lt;br /&gt;
* After landing on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, pilots [[Lee Adama]], [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]], [[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]], and [[Flyboy]] walk through the corridors with flashlights. Flyboy stumbles into a Cylon Centurion, which kills him as the rest attempt to flee.  &lt;br /&gt;
* As Hot Dog and Kat flee up a stairway, Adama attempts to kill the Cylon with his sidearm, but the bullets ricochet off the Centurion.  A small group of [[marines]] destroy the Cylon from behind with an explosive round.  Unfortunately, it was their last round, and only explosive rounds work against this heavily-armored version of Centurion.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Laura Roslin]] convinces Corporal [[Venner]] that she must leave her cell and escape the brig before the Cylons find them. On Captain Adama&#039;s advice, Venner leads the group to the safest location on the ship, [[sickbay]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama&#039;s group finds the storage locker on deck 12.  Inside, they find [[Jammer]] (a member of [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]&#039;s repair crew) and only six explosive rounds.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]] manages to warn the remainder of the Fleet to stay away from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; by [[wireless]] before the Cylons jam external communications.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gaeta notes a [[Virus|Cylon virus]] has infected some of the ship&#039;s isolated computers while they were networked; he has teams cleaning out the infection.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin&#039;s group find the bodies of some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s enlisted crew, massacred by the Cylons except for one survivor: a shell-shocked [[Anastasia Dualla]]. As Billy tries to snap Dualla out of her shock, Venner discovers that the Cylons have depressurised the route they had planned to take to sickbay. The group, now with Dualla, heads out along an alternative route that goes past [[Aft Damage Control]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Tigh gets reports that some of the Cylons have been taken out by teams throughout the ship.  He suspects that the Cylons are heading towards two sections of the ship -- one of which is Aft Damage Control -- in order to vent the ship&#039;s atmosphere. (After the ship is vented and the crew terminated, Tigh states that the Cylons would turn &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; guns on the Fleet.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Captain Adama contacts [[CIC]], where Tigh orders him to stop the Cylons at Aft Damage Control and prevent the Cylons from overriding the venting safeguards.&lt;br /&gt;
* Captain Adama, Jammer, Kat, and two marines station themselves near the Aft Damage Control compartment. As they ready the defense against the advancing Cylons, Roslin&#039;s group hides in a nearby passageway to avoid being discovered, unaware of how close their group is to Adama&#039;s squad and the Cylons. The Cylons run down a hallway towards [[Aft Damage Control]], but are distracted when Keikeya accidentally fires a round. The distraction places Roslin&#039;s group in danger but gives Adama and his team enough time to destroy the Cylon attackers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Having successfully destroyed the Cylons and with sufficient ship control restored, Doctor [[Cottle]] is summoned to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. In sickbay, Roslin assures Lee Adama that [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] will be fine, and she is taken back to the brig. Tigh tells Captain Adama that he is still shocked that he would side with the President instead of his own father, and that he is unfit to wear a [[Colonial]] uniform. Captain Adama agrees but tells Tigh that he isn&#039;t fit to wear the uniform either, deferring what will happen with both of them to his unconscious father once he returns to work.&lt;br /&gt;
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===On Caprica===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]] and [[Kara Thrace|Kara &amp;quot;Starbuck&amp;quot; Thrace]] discuss how the Cylons have a habit of fooling everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thrace leads them to her old apartment in Delphi.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thrace reminisces about how she hated the apartment. While everyone has been trying to gain back what was lost after the Cylon attack, Thrace wasn&#039;t attached to her apartment. The only thing she did was to fight, because it&#039;s the only thing she knows.&lt;br /&gt;
*To Helo&#039;s surprise, Thrace&#039;s apartment is full of abstract paintings, including one with a [[Eye of Jupiter|curious circular symbol]], a [[Starbuck&#039;s Poem|poem]] written next to the symbol, and tapes of piano music composed by her father. Unfortunately, there is no food.&lt;br /&gt;
*The two exhausted Colonials take a rest. Thrace dons an old military jacket.&lt;br /&gt;
*A short time later, Thrace searches the old jacket and finds a set of vehicle keys. &amp;quot;Tired of walking?&amp;quot; she says.&lt;br /&gt;
*Helo and Thrace leave driving her old surplus military truck, with the [[Arrow of Apollo]] in possession.&lt;br /&gt;
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===On Kobol===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gaius Baltar]] has a dream where [[William Adama]] drowns Baltar&#039;s daughter.&lt;br /&gt;
*When he wakes up, he is in [[Number Six]]&#039;s arms, surrounded by human skulls and bones. Six tells Baltar that they were victims of human sacrifice, and that the [[Sacred_Scrolls|Scriptures]] were lies, fabricated to cover up how barbaric life on Kobol really was.&lt;br /&gt;
*When he returns to the others, Baltar is harangued by [[Crashdown]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] feels responsible for [[Tarn]]&#039;s death, but [[Cally]] snaps him out of his self-pity.&lt;br /&gt;
*The two return with the medkits, but it is too late to save [[Socinus]]&#039; life. Telling him that he is going home, Tyrol reluctantly euthanizes him with an overdose of [[morpha]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes == &lt;br /&gt;
*The title refers to the well-known Psalm 23 from the bible.&lt;br /&gt;
*The fleet population cited in the opening credits is 47,874. This is one less than the previous episode—prior to the opening credits, a Cylon kills [[Flyboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*First episode without an appearance by [[Sharon Valerii]] (except in opening montage).&lt;br /&gt;
*Helo reveals to Starbuck that the Cylons recovered the bodies and brought them to cremation centers, hence the lack of bodies. &lt;br /&gt;
*Socinus, initially slated to die in early drafts of &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot;, dies in this episode -- euthanised by Tyrol.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kate Vernon]] is listed as a guest star in the opening credits. However, her character, [[Ellen Tigh]], never makes an appearance in this episode. She is only shown in the deleted scenes.&lt;br /&gt;
* The music that we hear in Kara Thrace&#039;s apartment and again during the closing act of the episode is &#039;&#039;Metamorphosis Five&#039;&#039;, composed by [[w:Philip Glass|Philip Glass]]. It is from Glass&#039;s 1989 album &#039;&#039;Solo Piano&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The fate of the Heavy Raider in the starboard bay is unknown. It&#039;s possible that, like Starbuck&#039;s captured Raider, they kept it for study. However, the crash may have damaged it beyond repair.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the German broadcast redubbing of Cally&#039;s now-infamous &amp;quot;Talk to me, you motherfrakker!&amp;quot; line, &amp;quot;motherfrakker&amp;quot; is replaced with &amp;quot;blöder arsch&amp;quot;, which translates as &amp;quot;stupid ass&amp;quot;.  The real world equivalent of the curse word &amp;quot;motherfrakker&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t really exist in German, and a direct translation into German would have sounded particularly obscene, so the line was changed, and the joke is therefore somewhat lost in translation.&lt;br /&gt;
*The sign and countersign used by Tyrol and Crashdown on the surface of Kobol (&amp;quot;Flash!&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Thunder!&amp;quot;) was used by the Allied forces on [[w:D-Day|D-Day]], the first day of the invasion of [[w:Normandy|Normandy]], during [[w:World War II|World War II]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The apartment complex used in this episode is later reused as the prison-apartment on [[New Caprica]] in which [[Leoben Conoy]] holds Starbuck captive at the start of the third season (&amp;quot;[[Occupation]]&amp;quot; through &amp;quot;[[Exodus, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
*The sun painting on the wall in Starbuck&#039;s apartment is later revealed to be a representation of the [[Eye of Jupiter]] subconsciously painted by Starbuck.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The Centurions in this episode can only be destroyed by explosive rounds, which is a large plot element.  However, in episodes before and after &amp;quot;Valley of Darkness&amp;quot;, Centurions have been seen being destroyed by regular bullets.  These Centurions might have heavier armor because they are being used for a boarding action and will see heavy fighting.  When episode writer Bradley Thompson was [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques#Centurion armor|asked]] about this by BattlestarWiki, he answered:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Centurions are constantly being upgraded - new ones come out with better armor, quieter servos, better battle software. Some are designed for different uses (the ones designed for submarine use have REALLY heavy armor but are exceptionally slow, and have reduced ammunition carrying capacity.) Not to mention that the Colonials have remarkably bright backyard engineers -- they&#039;ve been hot-loading our small-arms rounds, coming up with better armor-piercing projectiles -- it&#039;s the constant ebb-and-flow of wartime technology.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*The Colonials use internal combustion engines (Starbuck&#039;s Humvee. Also previously seen in &amp;quot;[[Act of Contrition]]&amp;quot;). Assuming that it was the colonists that brought organic life along with them to the Twelve Colonies -- as Kobol&#039;s wildlife (birds and trees and such) is identical to Caprica&#039;s -- the engines may not burn fossil fuels, though, since the Kobol&#039;s refugees arrived on the Colonies only thousands of years rather than the millions of years it takes for fossil fuels to form. However, Kobol&#039;s life forms could also simply have replaced or supplemented less evolved or less strong life forms on the Colonial planets, as happened several times on Earth where non-indigenous life forms can wreak havoc on a local ecosystem. Or the local life forms may have died out through a catastrophic event. Both scenarios leave enough time for original life forms to be turned into fossil fuels.  They may also run on synthetic fuels, such as ethanol or bio-diesel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The remains Baltar and Six find cannot be thousands of years old; they would not have survived in the open. Did the [[Thirteenth Tribe]] leave Kobol recently? Do humans, at least until recently, still inhabit Kobol? Or were all the remains merely fabricated hallucinations by Six?&lt;br /&gt;
*Are the human skeletons real, or a hallucination created for Baltar by Six?  If the skeletons &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; real, is Six lying when she says they are the result of human sacrifice (i.e. they could have been from the cataclysm that drove humanity off of Kobol)?&lt;br /&gt;
:When [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques#Human sacrifice|asked about this]] episode writer [[Bradley Thompson]] answered:  &amp;quot;The question at the bottom of this is: &amp;quot;Who is Six?&amp;quot; In such cases, I&#039;m not going to embellish what Ron &amp;amp; David have put on the screen.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Why would later humans have felt it necessary to cover up the nature of civilization on Kobol? Is it related to the reason why Kobol was abandoned in the first place? How would the Cylons have found out? Did Six just make it up, or could it be the Cylon interpretation of the scriptures?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Official Statements == &lt;br /&gt;
=== From RDM&#039;s blog ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;We&#039;ve almost completed shooting the opening of Season Two, with [[Michael Rymer]] back at the helm filming a two-parter written by [[David Weddle]] &amp;amp; [[Bradley Thompson]] called &#039;[[Scattered]]&#039; and &#039;[[Valley of Darkness]].&#039; Things have been going well so far, with a good mood on the set and a feeling of satisfaction and pride running through the whole team at their accomplishments in year one and anticipation for year two.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;blog-4-11-05&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/04/|title=Battlestar Galactica: April 2005 Blog Archives|author=Ron D. Moore|date=April 11, 2005}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Lee Adama|Apollo]]&#039;s betrayal of [[William Adama|Adama]]&#039;s decision to arrest the [[Laura Roslin|president]] is detracting from the believability of the show for me. I&#039;m listining to your [[podcast]] of [[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II|ep. 113]] as I write this and you just said Lee is &amp;quot;a more capable, more competent, leader . . .&amp;quot; He&#039;s also struck me as a fairly honorable character. If he had doubts about this mission I think he would have at least voiced them and then not gone along with the strike team so he would not have been put in the position he was. I hope you won&#039;t use Adama&#039;s near death experience at the end of season one/start of season two to &amp;quot;write off&amp;quot; these betrayals, esp. Apollo&#039;s. His was much more unforgivable considering his relationship with Adama, his leadership role in the fleet, and the battle between the president and Adama. I find it hard to see Lee continuing as [[CAG]] after this. &amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: You bring up valid points and we are planning to play out the consequences of Lee&#039;s decision as it impacts both him and his father over the course of the season.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;blog-4-11-05&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;On the surface of Kobol, Chief Tyrol and Cally are on their way to rendezvous with the rest of the Raptor crash survivors:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; (exhausted from walking) What do you say we take five?&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol is still in a state of shock from having lost Tarn to a surprise attack by the Cylons and leans against a tree)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; How much further, do you think?&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol ignores her)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Tarn]] getting shot...it wasn&#039;t your fault, you know that right?... Chief?&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol is silent)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; Talk to me, you mother[[frak]]ker!&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol turns around and looks at her strangely)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; (laughing) Motherfrakker?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; Socinus better appreciate this.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; He&#039;s probably lying in the sun, staring up at the birds like some Gods&#039; damned emperor. He&#039;s an idiot.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; I hope he&#039;s okay... &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - motherfrakker.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Regarding [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|&amp;quot;Sharon, the Cylon&amp;quot;]]:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Starbuck:&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Helo, sarcastically) Your girlfriend’s from a &#039;&#039;lovely&#039;&#039; family, good people, great values. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - great family values.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;In her apartment on Caprica, Starbuck and Helo stop to rest:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; (sitting on her couch) You know, I never really liked this place anyway. Air conditioning doesn&#039;t work in the summer. Heater doesn&#039;t work in the winter. The rent&#039;s a crime...(lights a cigarette)...After they attacked, I never pined over any of my old crap. Never missed it. Stupid view of the parking lot. Broken toilet in the bathroom...You know, everyone I know is fighting to get back what they had. I&#039;m fighting because I don&#039;t know how to do anything else. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - why people fight.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Speaking to Marines:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Let’s go [[toaster]] shopping.&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - toaster shopping.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol and Cally have rejoined the others on Kobol, and they find out that Socinus isn&#039;t going to survive much longer:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; How&#039;s he doing?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Selix:&#039;&#039;&#039; He&#039;s not going to make it.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; What? What do you mean? What are you talking about? We got the medkit! Give him a shot! Give him another shot!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Selix:&#039;&#039;&#039; It&#039;s too late.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; What do you mean, it&#039;s too late? I got you the medkit! What else do you want? (looking stunned) So we...got the medicine you asked for...Tarn...and for what? For this? Come on! You have to do something. You have to do something!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Selix:&#039;&#039;&#039; We can&#039;t change that he&#039;s going to die, Chief. It&#039;s going to be slow and painful, and we can spare him that if we give him the morpha from my kit and the one that you brought back.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; What? No. (looks at Crashdown) LT..LT, come on!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Crashdown:&#039;&#039;&#039; He&#039;s your man, Chief.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; Give it to me. (takes morpha from Selix and leans down beside Socinus) Hey buddy. It&#039;s the Chief. How you doing?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Socinus:&#039;&#039;&#039; (wheezing) What&#039;s going on?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; Oh, you know...listening to the birds. I got you a little something for the pain. (injects morpha into Socinus) Good news, buddy. The recovery party&#039;s here. Raptors just landed. We&#039;re going to put you on one and take you back to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, okay?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Socinus:&#039;&#039;&#039; We&#039;re going home?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yeah...(tears welling in his eyes)...we&#039;re going home.&lt;br /&gt;
:(Socinus passes away) &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD_-_Socinus&#039;_death.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;In &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; sickbay:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; I can&#039;t believe you sided with that woman against [[The Old Man|the old man]]. I wouldn&#039;t do that if you put a gun to my head...[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II|and you did]]! As far as I&#039;m concerned, you&#039;re not fit to wear a uniform.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Huh. You&#039;re right about that part. I am not fit to wear the uniform...and maybe I never was. Then again, neither are you. But this isn&#039;t my ship, and it sure as hell isn&#039;t yours. (motions at Commander Adama) It&#039;s his, and when he wakes up, he&#039;ll decide what to do with the both of us. (Captain Adama leaves for the brig)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; Thank the Gods I didn&#039;t have kids. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - not fit to wear the uniform.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;In Aft Damage Control, preparing to fight the Cylons:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Sometimes you got to roll a hard six.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Jammer]]&#039;&#039;&#039;: What does that mean, sir?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Uh, I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s something my [[William Adama|dad]] says. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - roll the hard six.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Crashdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alonso Oyarzun]] as Specialist [[Socinus]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kerry Norton]] as Paramedic [[Layne Ishay]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Shields]] as Corporal [[Venner]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan &amp;quot;Hot Dog&amp;quot; Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jennifer Halley]] as [[Diana Seelix]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Tayles]] as [[Flyboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman|James &amp;quot;Jammer&amp;quot; Lyman]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Garvin Cross]] as [[Collishaw]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Loree]] as [[Bonnington]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lori Stewart]] as [[Twinam]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Valley of Darkness</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* On Caprica */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Episode Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image =Valley_of_Darkness-Starbuck_Helo.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title=Valley of Darkness&lt;br /&gt;
| series=&lt;br /&gt;
| season=2&lt;br /&gt;
| episode=2&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Bradley Thompson]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; [[David Weddle]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story=&lt;br /&gt;
| goof=Y&lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=202&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2005-07-22&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2006-01-17&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 2.0 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 2 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast = Y&lt;br /&gt;
| population= 47874&lt;br /&gt;
| oldpopulation= 47875&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Scattered]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[Fragged]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;After rediscovering [[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]], [[Cylon Centurion]]s board &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039; and wreak havoc, while [[Lee Adama]] and a rag-tag group of pilots and marines attempt to thwart the Cylon&#039;s methodical plans.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* After [[FTL|jumping]] successfully to the Fleet&#039;s location once [[Scattered|rediscovering their actual location]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s power systems shut down unexpectedly. [[Jammer]] reports to Captain Adama that the [[sound-powered phone]]s are working, but jammed with other communications, so they cannot contact damage control.&lt;br /&gt;
* After landing on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, pilots [[Lee Adama]], [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]], [[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]], and [[Flyboy]] walk through the corridors with flashlights. Flyboy stumbles into a Cylon Centurion, which kills him as the rest attempt to flee.  &lt;br /&gt;
* As Hot Dog and Kat flee up a stairway, Adama attempts to kill the Cylon with his sidearm, but the bullets ricochet off the Centurion.  A small group of [[marines]] destroy the Cylon from behind with an explosive round.  Unfortunately, it was their last round, and only explosive rounds work against this heavily-armored version of Centurion.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Laura Roslin]] convinces Corporal [[Venner]] that she must leave her cell and escape the brig before the Cylons find them. On Captain Adama&#039;s advice, Venner leads the group to the safest location on the ship, [[sickbay]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama&#039;s group finds the storage locker on deck 12.  Inside, they find [[Jammer]] (a member of [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]&#039;s repair crew) and only six explosive rounds.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]] manages to warn the remainder of the Fleet to stay away from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; by [[wireless]] before the Cylons jam external communications.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gaeta notes a [[Virus|Cylon virus]] has infected some of the ship&#039;s isolated computers while they were networked; he has teams cleaning out the infection.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin&#039;s group find the bodies of some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s enlisted crew, massacred by the Cylons except for one survivor: a shell-shocked [[Anastasia Dualla]]. As Billy tries to snap Dualla out of her shock, Venner discovers that the Cylons have depressurised the route they had planned to take to sickbay. The group, now with Dualla, heads out along an alternative route that goes past [[Aft Damage Control]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Tigh gets reports that some of the Cylons have been taken out by teams throughout the ship.  He suspects that the Cylons are heading towards two sections of the ship -- one of which is Aft Damage Control -- in order to vent the ship&#039;s atmosphere. (After the ship is vented and the crew terminated, Tigh states that the Cylons would turn &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; guns on the Fleet.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Captain Adama contacts [[CIC]], where Tigh orders him to stop the Cylons at Aft Damage Control and prevent the Cylons from overriding the venting safeguards.&lt;br /&gt;
* Captain Adama, Jammer, Kat, and two marines station themselves near the Aft Damage Control compartment. As they ready the defense against the advancing Cylons, Roslin&#039;s group hides in a nearby passageway to avoid being discovered, unaware of how close their group is to Adama&#039;s squad and the Cylons. The Cylons run down a hallway towards [[Aft Damage Control]], but are distracted when Keikeya accidentally fires a round. The distraction places Roslin&#039;s group in danger but gives Adama and his team enough time to destroy the Cylon attackers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Having successfully destroyed the Cylons and with sufficient ship control restored, Doctor [[Cottle]] is summoned to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. In sickbay, Roslin assures Lee Adama that [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] will be fine, and she is taken back to the brig. Tigh tells Captain Adama that he is still shocked that he would side with the President instead of his own father, and that he is unfit to wear a [[Colonial]] uniform. Captain Adama agrees but tells Tigh that he isn&#039;t fit to wear the uniform either, deferring what will happen with both of them to his unconscious father once he returns to work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===On Caprica===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]] and [[Kara Thrace|Kara &amp;quot;Starbuck&amp;quot; Thrace]] discuss how the Cylons have a habit of fooling everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thrace leads them to her old apartment in Delphi.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thrace reminisces about how she hated the apartment. While everyone has been trying to gain back what was lost after the Cylon attack, Thrace wasn&#039;t attached to her apartment. The only thing she did was to fight, because it&#039;s the only thing she knows.&lt;br /&gt;
*To Helo&#039;s surprise, Thrace&#039;s apartment is full of abstract paintings, including one with a [[Eye of Jupiter|curious circular symbol]], a [[Starbuck&#039;s Poem|poem]] written next to the symbol, and tapes of piano music composed by her father. Unfortunately, there is no food.&lt;br /&gt;
*The two exhausted Colonials take a rest. Thrace dons an old military jacket.&lt;br /&gt;
*A short time later, Thrace searches the old jacket and finds a set of vehicle keys. &amp;quot;Tired of walking?&amp;quot; she says.&lt;br /&gt;
*Helo and Thrace leave driving her old surplus military truck, with the [[Arrow of Apollo]] in possession.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===On Kobol===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gaius Baltar]] has a dream where [[William Adama]] drowns Baltar&#039;s daughter.&lt;br /&gt;
*When he wakes up, he is in [[Number Six]]&#039;s arms, surrounded by human skulls and bones. Six tells Baltar that they were victims of human sacrifice, and that the [[Sacred_Scrolls|Scriptures]] were lies, fabricated to cover up how barbaric life on Kobol really was.&lt;br /&gt;
*When he returns to the others, Baltar is harangued by [[Crashdown]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] feels responsible for [[Tarn]]&#039;s death, but [[Cally]] snaps him out of his self-pity.&lt;br /&gt;
*The two return with the medkits, but it is too late to save [[Socinus]]&#039; life. Telling him that he is going home, Tyrol reluctantly euthanizes him with an overdose of [[morpha]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes == &lt;br /&gt;
*The title refers to the well-known Psalm 23 from the bible.&lt;br /&gt;
*The fleet population cited in the opening credits is 47,874. This is one less than the previous episode—prior to the opening credits, a Cylon kills [[Flyboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*First episode without an appearance by [[Sharon Valerii]] (except in opening montage).&lt;br /&gt;
*Helo reveals to Starbuck that the Cylons recovered the bodies and brought them to cremation centers, hence the lack of bodies. &lt;br /&gt;
*Socinus, initially slated to die in early drafts of &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot;, dies in this episode -- euthanised by Tyrol.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kate Vernon]] is listed as a guest star in the opening credits. However, her character, [[Ellen Tigh]], never makes an appearance in this episode. She is only shown in the deleted scenes.&lt;br /&gt;
* The music that we hear in Kara Thrace&#039;s apartment and again during the closing act of the episode is &#039;&#039;Metamorphosis Five&#039;&#039;, composed by [[w:Philip Glass|Philip Glass]]. It is from Glass&#039;s 1989 album &#039;&#039;Solo Piano&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The fate of the Heavy Raider in the starboard bay is unknown. It&#039;s possible that, like Starbuck&#039;s captured Raider, they kept it for study. However, the crash may have damaged it beyond repair.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the German broadcast redubbing of Cally&#039;s now-infamous &amp;quot;Talk to me, you motherfrakker!&amp;quot; line, &amp;quot;motherfrakker&amp;quot; is replaced with &amp;quot;blöder arsch&amp;quot;, which translates as &amp;quot;stupid ass&amp;quot;.  The real world equivalent of the curse word &amp;quot;motherfrakker&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t really exist in German, and a direct translation into German would have sounded particularly obscene, so the line was changed, and the joke is therefore somewhat lost in translation.&lt;br /&gt;
*The sign and countersign used by Tyrol and Crashdown on the surface of Kobol (&amp;quot;Flash!&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Thunder!&amp;quot;) was used by the Allied forces on [[w:D-Day|D-Day]], the first day of the invasion of [[w:Normandy|Normandy]], during [[w:World War II|World War II]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The apartment complex used in this episode is later reused as the prison-apartment on [[New Caprica]] in which [[Leoben Conoy]] holds Starbuck captive at the start of the third season (&amp;quot;[[Occupation]]&amp;quot; through &amp;quot;[[Exodus, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
*The sun painting on the wall in Starbuck&#039;s apartment is later revealed to be a representation of the [[Eye of Jupiter]] subconsciously painted by Starbuck.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The Centurions in this episode can only be destroyed by explosive rounds, which is a large plot element.  However, in episodes before and after &amp;quot;Valley of Darkness&amp;quot;, Centurions have been seen being destroyed by regular bullets.  These Centurions might have heavier armor because they are being used for a boarding action and will see heavy fighting.  When episode writer Bradley Thompson was [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques#Centurion armor|asked]] about this by BattlestarWiki, he answered:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Centurions are constantly being upgraded - new ones come out with better armor, quieter servos, better battle software. Some are designed for different uses (the ones designed for submarine use have REALLY heavy armor but are exceptionally slow, and have reduced ammunition carrying capacity.) Not to mention that the Colonials have remarkably bright backyard engineers -- they&#039;ve been hot-loading our small-arms rounds, coming up with better armor-piercing projectiles -- it&#039;s the constant ebb-and-flow of wartime technology.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*The Colonials use internal combustion engines (Starbuck&#039;s Humvee. Also previously seen in &amp;quot;[[Act of Contrition]]&amp;quot;). Assuming that it was the colonists that brought organic life along with them to the Twelve Colonies -- as Kobol&#039;s wildlife (birds and trees and such) is identical to Caprica&#039;s -- the engines may not burn fossil fuels, though, since the Kobol&#039;s refugees arrived on the Colonies only thousands of years rather than the millions of years it takes for fossil fuels to form. However, Kobol&#039;s life forms could also simply have replaced or supplemented less evolved or less strong life forms on the Colonial planets, as happened several times on Earth where non-indigenous life forms can wreak havoc on a local ecosystem. Or the local life forms may have died out through a catastrophic event. Both scenarios leave enough time for original life forms to be turned into fossil fuels.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The remains Baltar and Six find cannot be thousands of years old; they would not have survived in the open. Did the [[Thirteenth Tribe]] leave Kobol recently? Do humans, at least until recently, still inhabit Kobol? Or were all the remains merely fabricated hallucinations by Six?&lt;br /&gt;
*Are the human skeletons real, or a hallucination created for Baltar by Six?  If the skeletons &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; real, is Six lying when she says they are the result of human sacrifice (i.e. they could have been from the cataclysm that drove humanity off of Kobol)?&lt;br /&gt;
:When [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques#Human sacrifice|asked about this]] episode writer [[Bradley Thompson]] answered:  &amp;quot;The question at the bottom of this is: &amp;quot;Who is Six?&amp;quot; In such cases, I&#039;m not going to embellish what Ron &amp;amp; David have put on the screen.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Why would later humans have felt it necessary to cover up the nature of civilization on Kobol? Is it related to the reason why Kobol was abandoned in the first place? How would the Cylons have found out? Did Six just make it up, or could it be the Cylon interpretation of the scriptures?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Official Statements == &lt;br /&gt;
=== From RDM&#039;s blog ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;We&#039;ve almost completed shooting the opening of Season Two, with [[Michael Rymer]] back at the helm filming a two-parter written by [[David Weddle]] &amp;amp; [[Bradley Thompson]] called &#039;[[Scattered]]&#039; and &#039;[[Valley of Darkness]].&#039; Things have been going well so far, with a good mood on the set and a feeling of satisfaction and pride running through the whole team at their accomplishments in year one and anticipation for year two.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;blog-4-11-05&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/04/|title=Battlestar Galactica: April 2005 Blog Archives|author=Ron D. Moore|date=April 11, 2005}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Lee Adama|Apollo]]&#039;s betrayal of [[William Adama|Adama]]&#039;s decision to arrest the [[Laura Roslin|president]] is detracting from the believability of the show for me. I&#039;m listining to your [[podcast]] of [[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II|ep. 113]] as I write this and you just said Lee is &amp;quot;a more capable, more competent, leader . . .&amp;quot; He&#039;s also struck me as a fairly honorable character. If he had doubts about this mission I think he would have at least voiced them and then not gone along with the strike team so he would not have been put in the position he was. I hope you won&#039;t use Adama&#039;s near death experience at the end of season one/start of season two to &amp;quot;write off&amp;quot; these betrayals, esp. Apollo&#039;s. His was much more unforgivable considering his relationship with Adama, his leadership role in the fleet, and the battle between the president and Adama. I find it hard to see Lee continuing as [[CAG]] after this. &amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: You bring up valid points and we are planning to play out the consequences of Lee&#039;s decision as it impacts both him and his father over the course of the season.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;blog-4-11-05&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;On the surface of Kobol, Chief Tyrol and Cally are on their way to rendezvous with the rest of the Raptor crash survivors:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; (exhausted from walking) What do you say we take five?&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol is still in a state of shock from having lost Tarn to a surprise attack by the Cylons and leans against a tree)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; How much further, do you think?&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol ignores her)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Tarn]] getting shot...it wasn&#039;t your fault, you know that right?... Chief?&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol is silent)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; Talk to me, you mother[[frak]]ker!&lt;br /&gt;
:(Chief Tyrol turns around and looks at her strangely)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; (laughing) Motherfrakker?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; Socinus better appreciate this.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; He&#039;s probably lying in the sun, staring up at the birds like some Gods&#039; damned emperor. He&#039;s an idiot.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cally:&#039;&#039;&#039; I hope he&#039;s okay... &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - motherfrakker.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Regarding [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|&amp;quot;Sharon, the Cylon&amp;quot;]]:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Starbuck:&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Helo, sarcastically) Your girlfriend’s from a &#039;&#039;lovely&#039;&#039; family, good people, great values. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - great family values.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;In her apartment on Caprica, Starbuck and Helo stop to rest:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; (sitting on her couch) You know, I never really liked this place anyway. Air conditioning doesn&#039;t work in the summer. Heater doesn&#039;t work in the winter. The rent&#039;s a crime...(lights a cigarette)...After they attacked, I never pined over any of my old crap. Never missed it. Stupid view of the parking lot. Broken toilet in the bathroom...You know, everyone I know is fighting to get back what they had. I&#039;m fighting because I don&#039;t know how to do anything else. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - why people fight.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Speaking to Marines:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Let’s go [[toaster]] shopping.&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - toaster shopping.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol and Cally have rejoined the others on Kobol, and they find out that Socinus isn&#039;t going to survive much longer:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; How&#039;s he doing?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Selix:&#039;&#039;&#039; He&#039;s not going to make it.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; What? What do you mean? What are you talking about? We got the medkit! Give him a shot! Give him another shot!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Selix:&#039;&#039;&#039; It&#039;s too late.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; What do you mean, it&#039;s too late? I got you the medkit! What else do you want? (looking stunned) So we...got the medicine you asked for...Tarn...and for what? For this? Come on! You have to do something. You have to do something!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Selix:&#039;&#039;&#039; We can&#039;t change that he&#039;s going to die, Chief. It&#039;s going to be slow and painful, and we can spare him that if we give him the morpha from my kit and the one that you brought back.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; What? No. (looks at Crashdown) LT..LT, come on!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Crashdown:&#039;&#039;&#039; He&#039;s your man, Chief.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; Give it to me. (takes morpha from Selix and leans down beside Socinus) Hey buddy. It&#039;s the Chief. How you doing?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Socinus:&#039;&#039;&#039; (wheezing) What&#039;s going on?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; Oh, you know...listening to the birds. I got you a little something for the pain. (injects morpha into Socinus) Good news, buddy. The recovery party&#039;s here. Raptors just landed. We&#039;re going to put you on one and take you back to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, okay?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Socinus:&#039;&#039;&#039; We&#039;re going home?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yeah...(tears welling in his eyes)...we&#039;re going home.&lt;br /&gt;
:(Socinus passes away) &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD_-_Socinus&#039;_death.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;In &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; sickbay:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; I can&#039;t believe you sided with that woman against [[The Old Man|the old man]]. I wouldn&#039;t do that if you put a gun to my head...[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II|and you did]]! As far as I&#039;m concerned, you&#039;re not fit to wear a uniform.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Huh. You&#039;re right about that part. I am not fit to wear the uniform...and maybe I never was. Then again, neither are you. But this isn&#039;t my ship, and it sure as hell isn&#039;t yours. (motions at Commander Adama) It&#039;s his, and when he wakes up, he&#039;ll decide what to do with the both of us. (Captain Adama leaves for the brig)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; Thank the Gods I didn&#039;t have kids. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - not fit to wear the uniform.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;In Aft Damage Control, preparing to fight the Cylons:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Sometimes you got to roll a hard six.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Jammer]]&#039;&#039;&#039;: What does that mean, sir?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Uh, I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s something my [[William Adama|dad]] says. &amp;amp;mdash; {{audio|VOD - roll the hard six.mp3|listen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Crashdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alonso Oyarzun]] as Specialist [[Socinus]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kerry Norton]] as Paramedic [[Layne Ishay]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Shields]] as Corporal [[Venner]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan &amp;quot;Hot Dog&amp;quot; Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jennifer Halley]] as [[Diana Seelix]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Tayles]] as [[Flyboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman|James &amp;quot;Jammer&amp;quot; Lyman]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Garvin Cross]] as [[Collishaw]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Loree]] as [[Bonnington]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lori Stewart]] as [[Twinam]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II</title>
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| image =bsg-klg2-1.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title=Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II&lt;br /&gt;
| series=&lt;br /&gt;
| season=1&lt;br /&gt;
| episode=13&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story=[[David Eick]]&lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=113&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 2.5&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2005-04-01&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2005-01-24&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 1 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 1 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast=y&lt;br /&gt;
| population=47887&lt;br /&gt;
| oldpopulation=47897&lt;br /&gt;
| extra= &#039;&#039;&#039;Season Finale&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[Scattered]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Starbuck has gone to Caprica. Adama insists Roslin must stand down as President. When she refuses, he is forced to deal with that situation while simultaneously adapting the plan to rid themselves of the Cylon baseship over Kobol.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== In the Fleet ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Adama|Adama]] challenges [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] over [[Kara Thrace]]&#039;s actions with the [[Cylon Raider]] (which occurred in the last episode) and she admits her role in helping [[Kara Thrace]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama requests her resignation as President. Roslin refuses. He states he is terminating her presidency. When she reveals the press is recording the conversation, he hangs up.&lt;br /&gt;
* He isolates &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039; using the [[CAP]] to physically isolate it, and by jamming all communications from it. He then orders [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]] and [[Lee Adama]] to set-up a strike force to take &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Visiting [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] in sickbay, Adama asks her to fly a dangerous mission: take a Raptor fitted with a Cylon [[IFF]] transponder, jump to the Cylon [[Baseship|baseship]] orbiting Kobol and drop a nuclear bomb into its landing bay before jumping clear.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin refuses Adama&#039;s final request to yield and her security team ready themselves for an assault.&lt;br /&gt;
* The strike team flies to an isolated &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039; aboard two Raptors, lead by Tigh and Lee Adama, and they start cutting their way into the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
* A confrontation ensues between Colonial forces and Roslin&#039;s security. It is broken only when Lee Adama sides with his conscience, and turns on Tigh. Afraid of a bloodbath, Roslin surrenders and Lee Adama is arrested.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin is returned to the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; after the failed standoff and is placed in the brig, while Lee Adama is in irons in CIC for mutiny.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] and [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] arrive in CIC following the success of the attack on the baseship near [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], and as he thanks them, Boomer shoots Adama twice in the chest at point blank range, seriously wounding him.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== On Kobol ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raptor]] 1 has crashed down on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] and is on fire, as the crew struggle to get out and remove the bodies of the dead and injured, [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] becomes trapped by fire in the back of the vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Crashdown]] tries to help him, but Baltar is too terrified to move. [[Number Six|Six]] appears and gives Baltar the strength to escape by giving the impression &#039;&#039;she&#039;&#039; is helping him out of the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
* As they get clear, the ship explodes, and Baltar wanders into the long grass before collapsing, as the rest of the crew start checking on their injured.&lt;br /&gt;
* Boomer&#039;s Raptor makes it through the Cylon perimeter around the baseship situated above Kobol, but the bomb release mechanism fails, forcing them to land inside the basestar and attempt a manual removal of the bomb.&lt;br /&gt;
* While there, Boomer encounters a number of her &amp;quot;sisters&amp;quot;. While she tries to claim she is human, they inform her she cannot escape destiny.&lt;br /&gt;
* After she leaves on the Raptor, her &amp;quot;sisters&amp;quot; make no attempt to disarm or remove the bomb. The baseship is destroyed in a massive nuclear explosion.&lt;br /&gt;
* On Kobol, Baltar recognises Six &amp;quot;saved&amp;quot; him, and she takes him to see exactly why he has been chosen by God, and she walks him towards the ruined [[Opera House]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Entering it, he is shown the &amp;quot;face of things to come&amp;quot;, apparently a baby in a crib, the &amp;quot;first of the new generation of God&#039;s children&amp;quot; - and he is to be their protector.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== On Caprica ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Valerii]] has taken [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] to hide near the [[Delphi]] Museum of the Colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* She is aware of the importance of the [[Arrow of Apollo]].&lt;br /&gt;
* They have discussed the fact that she is a Cylon (rather than a Cylon-created human clone as Helo suggested ([[Colonial Day]])).&lt;br /&gt;
* She reveals her relationship with him is important as it brings the Cylons closer to God. She also reveals she is pregnant.&lt;br /&gt;
* Starbuck completes her long-range jump and arrives over [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]]. Passing through Cylon lines, she sets down in Delphi and heads for the museum.&lt;br /&gt;
* Locating the [[Arrow of Apollo]] she is confronted by [[Number Six|Six]] and a fight ensues in which Starbuck is initially badly beaten, before a last-minute rush sends them both over a landing, killing Six. &lt;br /&gt;
* Helo comes to Starbuck&#039;s aid, and she panics when she sees Valerii, immediately realizing that Valerii is a Cylon. Helo stops Starbuck from shooting her, citing that she&#039;s pregnant.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* This episode takes place directly after those of &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* There are now 47,887 survivors in the Fleet, a net loss of 10 since &amp;quot;Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Cylon vessels are indeed capable of very long-range jumps.  The disorienting effects of the jump on humans is amplified greatly to the point where those tolerant of jump disorientation are affected.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Delphi]] was once a cultural center on Caprica, and apparently held a lot of historical / religious artifacts&lt;br /&gt;
* Cylon basestars appear bio-mechanical, like Raiders&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot; it was established that the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; had at least 5 [[Raptor|Raptors]] on board: [[William Adama|Adama]] orders Raptors to survey local star systems for water bearing planets, 5 are dispatched. This episode reveals &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has at least 6: 1 is destroyed over [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], one crashes on Kobol; three take part in the raid on &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039;, 1 simultaneously carries a nuclear warhead to the Cylon basestar,&lt;br /&gt;
*The use of [[IFF]] transponders by the Cylons is an indirect nod to [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the original series]], in which [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]] and [[Starbuck (TOS)|Starbuck]] use an IFF-type device to identify their [[Cylon Raider#Original Series Raider|Raider]] to Colonial forces when they launch an attack on a Cylon Basestar ([[The Hand of God (TOS)]])&lt;br /&gt;
*According to RDM&#039;s podcast, during the Starbuck/Number Six fight in the Delphi Museum, Katee Sackhoff and Tricia Helfer themselves actually perform the entire fight scene, with no stunt doubles.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Caprica-Sharon is indeed pregnant; yes love and procreation were the keys to Cylon desire with her and Helo; yes her true nature would be revealed to her crewmates – if not directly through her actions in shooting Adama, then certainly through Starbuck’s return to the Galactica. While Starbuck is liable to be thrown into the brig on her return, that’s no reason for Tigh and others not to believe claims about Boomer in light of what she has seen on Caprica and what has happened in CIC. &lt;br /&gt;
*That he was seeing into the future is clear: but is the child he sees the product of Helo’s relationship with Valerii, or his own (future) relationship with a corporeal Six? On the one hand, much of what is seen points to the child being born of Valerii: she admits her condition to Helo (and thus opens the door to him remaining on Caprica with her while Starbuck returns to the Galactica with the Arrow) and the Cylons were apparently aiming for her to become pregnant by Helo (or at least, Doral and Six showed no surprised when she reported her lovemaking with him). But – Six’s words to Baltar as she prepares him to see the future are interesting: “You are the guardian and protector of a new generation of God’s children,” – a somewhat neutral explanation that comes before she smiles, catches her breath and adds, “The first member of our family will be with us soon, Gaius.” This could be a reference to the fact that Valerii is pregnant; however the shift to the possessive “our family” and “with us” could be seen to indicate the child could be Baltar’s own. And again, how much more of an effective guardian and protector will Baltar be, if he is in fact protecting his own offspring, rather than that of another Cylon / human relationship? And if this is the case, where does that leave the Valerii / Helo relationship?&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode reveals some more about Number Six: if the offspring on the crib she sees with Baltar is that of Valerii and Helo, then it would more or less confirm that she is in contact with corporeal Cylons elsewhere – how else would she know of the developing Valerii / Helo situation otherwise as it started after her “death”? Similarly, it is interesting to note the degree of savagery involved in the beating Six gives Starbuck. In many respects, it mirrors the beating she gave Valerii in “Litmus”; at the time, the viciousness she showed seemed to be linked to the jealousy evident between her and Valerii. We now know that Six has been affected by Baltar’s reaction to sleeping with Starbuck (“Kobol’s Last Gleaming, Part 1”); could the physical beating Starbuck receives be a manifestation of the jealousy she feels for what happened on the Galactica, transmitted to her corporeal sister?   &lt;br /&gt;
*How will the fleet react once word of Roslin’s arrest breaks through the communications blackout the Galactica inflicted on Colonial One? What can the civilians do? In many respects Adama holds all the cards – or would do, were he in a fit condition. His ship is the key to the protection of the fleet, and she is pretty much unassailable.  Therefore, it is hard to see anyone stepping too far out of line when it comes to making major decisions: where the fleet will go, what it will do, etc. But within the civilian community, it is hard not to see repercussions: Roslin has been arrested; Baltar is missing, possibly dead. Who is available to take the civil reigns? Wallace Gray ([[Colonial Day]])? Tom Zarek ([[Bastille Day]]; [[Colonial Day]]). Is it a coincidence that not too long before, at the Quorum of Twelve, Zarek himself raised the spectre of a military coup – and that’s more-or-less what they now have on their hands?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Are Adama&#039;s wounds fatal? ([[Resistance_(episode)|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* What will be the public reaction when news of [[Laura Roslin|Roslin&#039;s]] arrest finally breaks through the communication&#039;s embargo?  ([[Home, Part I|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Who will take over as the civil leader with Roslin in the brig and [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; somewhere on the surface of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]? ([[Fragged|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* How will [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] rise to the demands of command? ([[Fragged|Answer]]) &lt;br /&gt;
* What is the baby in the crib? ([[Home, Part II|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* If the Cylons understand the significance of the Arrow of Apollo (and by extension, the Tomb of Athena), why don&#039;t they use them themselves to find [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]? &lt;br /&gt;
* Are the Cylons genuinely interested in Earth, or has it simply been a means to bring them to Kobol? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Why didn&#039;t the sound of Starbuck&#039;s Raider landing attract Helo&#039;s attention sooner? He is across the road from the museum, and so could hardly fail to see it touch down, or see Starbuck climb the steps to the museum itself.&lt;br /&gt;
* How did Six know Starbuck&#039;s name so readily? Is this a pointer to her being in communication with her &amp;quot;sister&amp;quot; in Baltar&#039;s head? Or having been in communication with Conoy ([[Flesh and Bone]])?  &lt;br /&gt;
* Did Boomer sabotage the bomb release mechanism, thus forcing herself into landing on the baseship?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why didn&#039;t [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] raise concerns about [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer&#039;s]] ability to survive in a vacuum on their return to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; (although there is no indication that there was a vacuum outside)? ([[Scattered|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Is there a breathable atmosphere inside Cylon basestars? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Why do the Eights do nothing to stop the nuke?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Official Statements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Regarding [[Lee Adama]] and his development (and setbacks) incurred over the course of [[Season 1 (2004-05)]], as stated by [[Jamie Bamber]]:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: I think he&#039;s his own man. I think he&#039;s a natural leader, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s realised that yet. We are exploring it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:At the end of the first season he&#039;s on his own again. I mean, he&#039;s always been an isolated figure in the first place because he doesn&#039;t really belong on the &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. He doesn&#039;t even intend to be there but then the end of the world sort of catches him on the hop and that&#039;s where he has to make a start. He cuts a role out for himself as the &amp;quot;[[CAG]],&amp;quot; something he perhaps wasn&#039;t intending to do.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:And I think he comes into his own gradually. He surprises himself. But then again, at the end of the first season he disobeys an order, so that&#039;s basically burned all his bridges that he had with the crew of the &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:So he&#039;s a lone thinker in many respects, but I think more and more you&#039;ll see him start to come out with true leadership qualities. &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gateworld&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://gateworld.net/galactica/articles/bamber01.shtml Gateworld Article on Jamie Banber]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Jamie Bamber on Lee Adama&#039;s evolution from this episode into the second season:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: The difference fundamentally is that one moment in &amp;quot;Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming&amp;quot; when he finally realizes that he&#039;s sense (sic) of duty and responsibility can and must extend beyond the [[Colonial Fleet|military hierarchy]] and include his own conscience and the law. The moment he turns his weapon on [[Saul Tigh|his superior]].  And that that is not wrong. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: As a result he finds himself [[brig|behind bars]], in exile, out of uniform and essentially orphaned, but through all this he finds out who he really is and he trusts it.  Suddenly, with [[William Adama|his father]] dying, he sees people turn to him for leadership and that brings a realization that he must rise to the occasion and he does so through trusting his own judgment.  He is surprised that his mutinous act aboard &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039; has not marginalized him in [[the Fleet (RDM)|the fleet]]; just the opposite&amp;amp;mdash;it has actually highlighted him as a man of conscience, capable of impossibly difficult decisions. &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;inside_bsg_p50&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Inside Battlestar Galactica&amp;quot;, &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Sci-Fi Magazine&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; February 2006: [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/0008a1hf.jpg 50]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;When Adama congratulates Boomer for destroying the basestar over Kobol:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Congratulations to both of you. You carried out a very difficult and dangerous mission, and you did it...despite any...personal misgivings you may or may not have had...and for that I&#039;m very proud. Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Racetrack:&#039;&#039;&#039; Thank you, sir.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Boomer:&#039;&#039;&#039; Thank you, sir. (pulls out a gun and shoots Adama in the chest)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;In the Opera House on Kobol:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; I don&#039;t understand.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; Life has a melody, Gaius. A rhythm of notes that become your existence once played in harmony with God&#039;s plan. It&#039;s time to do your part and realize your destiny. &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; Which is what, exactly?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; You are the guardian and protector of the new generation of God&#039;s children. The first member of our family will be with us soon, Gaius. It&#039;s time to make your choice.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; But I don&#039;t understand what you&#039;re talking about. Really, I don&#039;t understand-&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; Come. See the face of the shape of things to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;On the Colonial One:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; Madam President, no one needs to get hurt here.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Laura Roslin:&#039;&#039;&#039; Then why don&#039;t you get off my ship, Colonel.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; I&#039;m placing you under arrest.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; No...no, we&#039;re not doing this.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; I&#039;m in command here, Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Colonel, this is wrong!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; You&#039;re relieved! Fall back. Madam President, I would-&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; (pulls a gun on Tigh) Men, lay down your weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; Have you lost your frakking mind?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Colonel, tell these Marines to fall back!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; This is mutiny. You know that.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes I do, but you can tell my father that I&#039;m listening to my instincts, and my instincts tell me that we cannot sacrifice our democracy just because the President makes a bad decision.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Crashdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lorena Gale]] as [[Elosha]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alonso Oyarzun]] as Specialist [[Socinus]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Shield]] as [[Karma]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warren Christie]] as [[Tarn]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jen Halley]] as [[Diana Seelix]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I</title>
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| title=Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I&lt;br /&gt;
| series=&lt;br /&gt;
| season=1&lt;br /&gt;
| episode=12&lt;br /&gt;
| guests=&lt;br /&gt;
| writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story=[[David Eick]]&lt;br /&gt;
| director=[[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=112&lt;br /&gt;
| rating= 2.2&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=2005-03-25&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=2005-01-17&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd= {{Season 1 NTSC DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{Season 1 PAL DVD release date}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| population= 47897&lt;br /&gt;
| oldpopulation= 47898&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Colonial Day]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II]]&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast=Y&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Battlestar &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; discovers Kobol, and a chain of events are set in motion that threatens to change everything.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Following the [[Colonial Day (holiday)|Colonial Day]] celebrations, [[Gaius Baltar]] finally beds [[Kara Thrace|Kara &amp;quot;Starbuck&amp;quot; Thrace]], but as they make love, she cries out for [[Lee Adama]], shattering Baltar&#039;s mood.&lt;br /&gt;
* Stricken by her apparent rejection of him in their coupling, Baltar in turn comes close to rejecting [[Number Six|Six]] and find it impossible to concentrate on anything – including his duties as Vice President.&lt;br /&gt;
* Elsewhere on ship, [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] attempts to take her own life, but breaks down in tears before she can shoot herself. She is called to the Ready Room for a pre-flight briefing.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] discovers that her cancer treatment is not going well. Her cancer has spread to her lymphatic system, giving her perhaps 6 months to live.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar verbally fences with Lee Adama and is somewhat insulting to Thrace, tipping Lee off that the doctor has slept with Thrace. Later, still thinking about Thrace, Baltar cracks in front of Roslin.&lt;br /&gt;
* Following a recon mission, Boomer and [[Crashdown]] return to &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039; with evidence they have stumbled upon [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Determined to have things out with Thrace, Lee confronts her in the [[Hangar Deck]], and the two come to blows. Thrace realizes that her actions with Baltar have hurt Lee Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
* Reviewing the evidence returned by Boomer and Crashdown, Roslin has a vision which [[Elosha]] confirms to be the [[City of the Gods]] on Kobol.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin has two further visions – the [[Arrow of Apollo]] and the [[Tomb of Athena]], and accepts the scriptures as fact.&lt;br /&gt;
* Boomer, still confused, attempts to take her own life – “encouraged” by Baltar in defiance of Six.&lt;br /&gt;
* When [[William Adama|Adama]] reviews the evidence, he orders an extensive surface survey of the planet, seeing it as an opportunity for them to settle. Warned he should get off &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; by Six, Baltar assigns himself to the survey.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin tries to convince Adama that Kobol will point the way to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]], but they must use the captured [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raider]] to return to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] and retrieve the Arrow of Apollo.&lt;br /&gt;
* Three Raptors depart &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; for Kobol, but on arrival they find themselves in the midst of a Cylon force of Raiders – and a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]].&lt;br /&gt;
* One Raptor is destroyed, and one - carrying Baltar – crash-lands on Kobol.  The third escapes back to the Fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
* Before a rescue mission can be launched, the basestar must be taken out – and Starbuck hatches a plan to do just this using the captured Raider.&lt;br /&gt;
* Hearing this, Roslin meets with Starbuck and convinces her into going to Caprica instead to retrieve the Arrow, by telling her that Adama does not actually know where Earth is.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-klg1-1.jpg|thumb|right|Adama studies ancient documents on Kobol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===On Caprica=== &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Karl Agathon|Helo]], alone and on the run, encounters “his” [[Sharon Agathon|Valerii]]. He shoots and wounds her. Unable to kill her outright, he takes her with him.&lt;br /&gt;
* When Valerii tries to talk to him, Helo cuts her off and insists that to him she is only a way off the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Kara leaves Baltar&#039;s quarters at the start of the episode with her blue dress from &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;. It seems like this episode continues directly on from the previous episode.&lt;br /&gt;
*There are now 47,897 survivors in the fleet, a net loss of 1 since &amp;quot;Colonial Day&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]] is beginning to run short of supplies.&lt;br /&gt;
*Humans departed Kobol for the Twelve Colonies some 2,000 years prior to the setting of the series .&lt;br /&gt;
*Kobol is a place where the &amp;quot;gods and man lived &#039;&#039;together&#039;&#039; in paradise&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some of the &amp;quot;gods&amp;quot; appear to be buried on Kobol, as demonstrated by the [[Tomb of Athena]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Socinus]] has been released from the brig and returned to duty; Socinus&#039; release from the brig by [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] was filmed, but ended up on the [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)|cutting room floor]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ellen Tigh]] does not appear in this episode, but she is present in deleted scenes.  &lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Cylon transponder]] is an indirect nod to the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the Original Series]], in which [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]] and [[Starbuck (TOS)|Starbuck]] use an IFF-type device to identify their [[Cylon Raider#Original Series Raider|Raider]] to Colonial forces when they launch an attack on a Cylon basestar ([[The Hand of God (TOS)]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why would Starbuck have sex with Baltar?&#039;&#039; As Starbuck said, she feels she is a screwup. Based on what we have seen and heard of Starbuck throughout the season, and specifically Apollo&#039;s comments in this episode, she has a history of recklessly diving into physical relations with no thought whatsoever as to the consequences; Starbuck instinctively starts thinking something must be wrong when things are going right, such as her growing relationship with Apollo, because she&#039;s so used to things going wrong.  Also, Lee left her dancing with Baltar in the last episode.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Sharon shoots herself, she is holding an automatic pistol, but the sound was that of the larger sidearms carried by pilots when flying off-ship missions (only slightly suppressed), rather than the report of a &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; pistol being fired.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Roslin tells Starbuck that she is dying from breast cancer, she says that she only told three people. However, four people ([[Cottle|Doctor Cottle]], [[Billy]], [[Apollo]], and [[Elosha]]) actually knew of Roslin&#039;s illness by this time. Whether this was a continuity error or whether Roslin simply misspoke is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
**Billy inferred her condition before she told him, ([[Miniseries]]), so maybe she is being very particular, since he did not learn of it through her telling him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Why did the Thirteen Tribes leave [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]? (Answer: In a [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)|deleted scene]], Col. Tigh asks [[Elosha]] this same question, and she says that one God decided that he should be raised up above all others, and rebelled, and this triggered the cataclysm that drove humans off of Kobol.)&lt;br /&gt;
* What happened to the gods who lived on Kobol “with man”?&lt;br /&gt;
* Did the gods remain on Kobol after humanity left? &lt;br /&gt;
* Given the similarities with the Greek pantheon, did the gods decide to follow the 13th tribe to Earth, thus establishing the myths of the Olympian gods?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do the Cylons consider Kobol as their spiritual home as well (“The birthplace of us all” – [[Leoben Conoy]], &amp;quot;[[Flesh and Bone]]&amp;quot;)?&lt;br /&gt;
* Did Boomer&#039;s Cylon personality interfere in her attempt at suicide, resulting in her wounding herself, or did her human personality lack the conviction of the act, resulting in the wound? Or was it simply an accident that she missed?&lt;br /&gt;
* Given that [[Cylon transponder]]s were aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, why did the Cylons make such an attempt to destroy &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; during their first attack - up to and including deploying nuclear weapons against her? Was the device inactive - if so, why was it in [[CIC]] in the first place ([[Miniseries]])?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Official Statements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Regarding the lack of definitive information regarding Kobol ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{from_RDM_blog}} &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;In the last two episodes it is noted by the priestess that the thirteen tribes left [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] about &amp;quot;2000 years ago&amp;quot; and the initial estimate of the age of the ruins is the same, but nothing is concrete of course. This is where I have a problem: They were obviously a star faring civilization to leave Kobol to being with. To do so requires information technology. Why is their history of that time so sketchy and lacking of concrete records? Yes it was 2000 years in the past but come on, it&#039;s not like they only had [[Wikipedia:papyrus|papyrus]] to write on. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve been presupposing some kind of cataclysm or crisis that occurred soon after mankind settled on the 12 worlds which either wiped out the knowledge base or had it deliberately destroyed for some reason. This doesn&#039;t seem that implausible when one considers that a tremendous amount of knowledge from the Greco-Roman tradition was lost after the fall of the [[Wikipedia:Roman Empire|Roman Empire]] and plunged the western world into the so called [[Wikipedia:Dark Ages|Dark Ages]]. Clearly, the Colonials did not fall all the way back to papyrus, and they do in fact, know that they are descendants of refugees from Kobol, hence the term &amp;quot;[[Colonies]].&amp;quot; They must have possessed star-faring technology at the time of the exodus, but I don&#039;t know how far we&#039;ll go into this specific backstory in the series, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Other Statements ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Jamie Bamber]] talks about his response to the argument held between [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Lee Adama]] in this episode:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: It&#039;s sort of an explosion of jealousy that is a complete surprise to him because I don&#039;t think he&#039;s ... he&#039;s not fully aware of what he feels. There&#039;s something quite like a gut reaction that really was exciting to play. It was a surprise to me. [http://gateworld.net/galactica/articles/bamber01.shtml]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;In the bunk room, when Gaius Baltar interrupts Sharon Valeri’s second attempt at suicide:&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Valerii:&#039;&#039;&#039; (as she pretends to be cleaning her hand gun) What’s going on?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; (cautiously) Well, I was going to ask you the same question. Actually, I was looking for Lieutenant Thrace but...sometimes it’s good to...talk these things over. &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; (feigning pity) Deep down she knows she’s a Cylon, but her conscious mind won’t accept it.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Valerii:&#039;&#039;&#039; Sometimes I have these dark thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; What kind of dark thoughts?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; Her model is weak, always has been. But in the end she’ll carry out her mission.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Valerii:&#039;&#039;&#039; I don’t know, but I’m afraid I’m going to hurt someone. I feel like I ought to be stopped. &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Six:&#039;&#039;&#039; (moving to the other side of Boomer) She can’t be stopped. She’s a Cylon. You can’t help her, Gaius...but you could probably sleep with her. That’s what you want, right?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Boomer) I’m not sure why...sometimes...we must embrace that which opens up for us...&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Valerii:&#039;&#039;&#039; Embrace?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; Life can be a curse as well as a blessing. (his voice becomes more intense) You will believe me when I tell you: there are far worse things than death in this world.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Sharon Valerii:&#039;&#039;&#039; So you’re saying…?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar:&#039;&#039;&#039; No. No, no, no. What I say...is meaningless. Listen to your heart. Embrace that which you know to be the right decision.&lt;br /&gt;
:(They look at each other as Six regards Baltar with a look of complete incomprehension, then Baltar stands and kisses Boomer on the forehead before walking out of the bunkroom. Seconds later there is the sound of a single gunshot from inside.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;On the hangar deck:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Going hunting?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; (loading ammunition into the Cylon Raider) I&#039;m manning the gunnery for the Jump test tomorrow. See if our boy here can shoot anything with our ammo.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; So it&#039;s a boy now.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; I changed my mind.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; You ever wonder why everyone else calls it a &amp;quot;she&amp;quot;, but to you, it&#039;s a &amp;quot;he&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; That&#039;s fascinating, Lee. You should write a paper.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, that&#039;s not really my style. I&#039;m not as smart as...say, Doctor Baltar. How is the Vice President, by the way?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; I don&#039;t know. Haven&#039;t seen him.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; (thinks for a second) So...he&#039;s a love-them and leave-them kind of guy, I guess.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; I guess.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ships just pass in the night...&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yep.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Didn&#039;t mean a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; No.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; You were just bored, looking for something to do. So frakking the Vice President of the Colonies seemed like a great waste of time!&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; Do you want something from me?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Not a thing-&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; -because I don&#039;t owe you anything.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; No, you don&#039;t owe me anything. because I&#039;m just a CAG, and you&#039;re just a pilot. A pilot who can&#039;t keep her pants on! Oh, it&#039;s just like old times, Kara. Like when you got drunk and you couldn&#039;t keep your hands off the Major-&lt;br /&gt;
:(Kara turns around and swings a punch at Lee, but Lee returns the favor by punching Kara in the eye)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Why&#039;d you do it, Kara? Just tell me why.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; Because I&#039;m a screwup, Lee. Try to keep that in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;As Kara Thrace pilots the Cylon Raider in a weapons test, she contacts Commander Adama:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Kara) Go ahead.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; I believed you. Believed in Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; What are you doing, Starbuck?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; Bringing home the cat, sir.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; We can talk about this.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; No, I don&#039;t think so.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; I want you to remember one thing. I do not regret anything that I did. Be sure that whatever you&#039;re going to do, you don&#039;t regret it later. Do you understand me?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Kara Thrace:&#039;&#039;&#039; I guess we&#039;ll find out. (Starbuck uses the FTL computer to Jump to Caprica)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Galactica, Apollo. Starbuck has jumped away. Repeat, Starbuck has jumped away.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Colonel Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; She wasn&#039;t scheduled for a Jump test! Where the hell did she go?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Home.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Guest stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lt. [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Crashdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lorena Gale]] as [[Elosha]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Cottle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alonso Oyarzun]] as Specialist [[Socinus]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan &amp;quot;Hot Dog&amp;quot; Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Spender]] as Pilot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Bell]] as [[ECO]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Episodes written by Ronald D. Moore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Episodes with story by David Eick]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Episodes directed by Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Kobol, Teil I]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[fr:À la recherche de la Terre - 1re partie]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Rapture</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* Act 4 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Episode Data&lt;br /&gt;
| title= Rapture&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Final Five.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| season= 3&lt;br /&gt;
| episode= 12&lt;br /&gt;
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| writer= [[Bradley Thompson]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; [[David Weddle]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| director= [[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production= 312&lt;br /&gt;
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| US airdate= 2007-01-21 &lt;br /&gt;
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| prev= [[The Eye of Jupiter]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next= [[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;With an impending supernova, the Colonials and Cylons see their time running out as they endeavor to unlock the secrets of the [[Eye of Jupiter]]. Meanwhile, [[Number Three]] executes her plan to know the faces of the [[Final Five]] and [[Sharon Agathon]] tries to get [[Hera|her daughter]] back.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 1===&lt;br /&gt;
*Others in &#039;&#039;[[Galactica|Galactica&#039;s]]&#039;&#039; [[CIC]], particularly Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] and President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]], become increasingly agitated and shocked as Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] continues issuing orders to arm and launch several nuclear missiles at the [[Temple of Five]]. He instructs Colonel Tigh to enter his launch codes as Adama does the same on his command console.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the [[The Eye of Jupiter|previous episode]], the Colonials warned that they would destroy the continent where the ancient [[temple]] resided if the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] attempted any landing there. Six [[Heavy Raider]]s are now heading to the planet, and Adama is intent on showing the Cylons that he is not bluffing.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylon [[basestar command]] detect Adama&#039;s continued missile preparations and become visibly worried that Adama will indeed destroy the Temple. Each of the available models immediately agree to a recall, except for the [[Number Three]] model, who defies the command group&#039;s consensus, and refuses to recall the last Heavy Raider.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; notices the recall of all but one of the Heavy Raiders, which gives Admiral Adama a moment to reconsider. After several tense moments, Adama rescinds the launch order and orders his battlestar to stand down.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons are relieved as well, but after the Three in the command room leaves in satisfaction, the others realize that the Cylon, a race predicated on consensus and not defiance or distinctive personality clashes, have a serious problem. A [[Cavil]] voices that the Threes are out of control, and that a decision regarding their actions must be made, sooner rather than later.&lt;br /&gt;
*In their quarters, [[Helo]] is angry, saddened and unable to convince his wife, [[Sharon Agathon]] of another course of action by way of Raptor or other transport in her desire to rescue their daughter, [[Hera Agathon|Hera]], in the hands of the Cylons. In the end, both embracing, Helo shoots his wife to force her consciousness to [[Resurrection (RDM)|download and resurrect]] on the Cylon [[Resurrection Ship]] to attempt the rescue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 2===&lt;br /&gt;
*On the [[algae planet]], [[Lee Adama]]&#039;s resistance movement is preparing. However, the Major and [[Samuel Anders]] are still fighting over saving [[Kara Thrace]] after her [[Raptor]] crashed from a Cylon missile attack. When Anders angrily proposes that he will shoot Major Adama if Thrace is dead, Adama responds that he would oblige Anders if Starbuck was killed, relating his feelings about the downed pilot. Their impasse ends when Adama calls his wife, Lieutenant [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]], and orders her to attempt reconnaissance and rescue of Starbuck.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galen Tyrol]] and his team continue deciphering the writings inside the Temple of Five for discerning the location of the [[Eye of Jupiter]], believed to be an important artifact that gives further data on the road to  [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. Their investigation does not go well, although Chief Tyrol believes he is close to understanding the writings.&lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Adama and President Roslin meet with Helo and question his wisdom in the Agathon&#039;s rescue attempt of their daughter. Adama is concerned that the Cylons may gain critical tactical data from their defected former [[Humanoid Cylon]]. When Roslin criticizes Helo, he angrily reminds her that, if she [[Downloaded|didn&#039;t steal their daughter]], the Agathons wouldn&#039;t be in this situation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Dualla and Sergeant [[Omar Fischer]] make their way to Starbuck&#039;s location, but are soon attacked by a Cylon sniper. After her partner is killed, Dualla scrambles, weaponless, along an alternate path to Starbuck&#039;s location.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Starbuck has survived her crash relatively unhurt except for severe burns on her hands. The pain is so severe that Thrace hasn&#039;t sufficient dexterity to inject herself with a [[morpha]] shot for the pain. When she hears a noise outside, however, Starbuck suppresses the pain long enough to raise her sidearm at her Raptor&#039;s open door.&lt;br /&gt;
*Thankfully, Dualla appears at the entrance. After administering a morpha shot, Dualla proceeds to assess the Raptors damage. She tells Thrace that she was ordered to &amp;quot;bring Starbuck to Apollo,&amp;quot; describing less of the actual rescue and more of her pain over the &amp;quot;secret&amp;quot; affair between Adama and Thrace.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Agathon downloads successfully. Through fortune or design, it is [[Caprica-Six]] who greets her at the [[Cylon rebirthing tank]]. Agathon seems truthful in her intentions, despite Six&#039;s concerns. In turn, Six tells Agathon that the child is ill and is worsening, to the confusion of the Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the planet, Major Adama&#039;s team have set a bomb kill zone in a ravine where any Cylon forces must walk through.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 3===&lt;br /&gt;
*When the [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] spot the trap, [[Jean Barolay]] is forced to detonate it before the Cylons completely enter the blast radius.&lt;br /&gt;
*The explosion removes the lower torso of one Cylon, but it, along with the two undamaged units, return fire. The Colonials destroy the legless Cylon, but lose one of their own in the firefight. Having lost their only chance to hold back a Cylon advance, they begin a retreat to the highlands of the planet to await rescue.&lt;br /&gt;
*Major Adama calls Chief Tyrol and orders the immediately evacuation and destruction of the Temple of Five lest it fall in Cylon control. A reluctant Tyrol orders his team out and soon follows, with a detonation cord reel to the [[G-4]] packs in his hands.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dualla continues to repair the damaged [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series#Colonial Avionics|avionics]] from cannibalizing [[datacord]] from the ship&#039;s communications system. When Thrace&#039;s pain increases, Dualla (with an apparently less-than-cordial &amp;quot;bedside manner&amp;quot;) stabs Thrace&#039;s leg with another morpha injection. As she drifts into a sedated delirium, Thrace confesses to loving and hating Lee Adama and her husband. Dualla slaps the pilot both in annoyance and in an attempt to keep Thrace focused on a major problem: the former petty officer on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is not flight-trained and cannot fly the Raptor, while Thrace&#039;s injuries make it impossible for her to fly.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gaius Baltar]], the &amp;quot;D&#039;Anna&amp;quot; Three, and a [[Cavil]] prepare to enter the Temple. Baltar&#039;s virtual Six appears to remind him, despite Three&#039;s feelings, that Baltar himself and not Three is the &amp;quot;chosen one&amp;quot; who is meant to activate or access the Temple&#039;s secrets.&lt;br /&gt;
*Reunited with the other Colonials at a safe distance from the Temple, Tyrol is reluctant to detonate the Temple&#039;s explosives. When Major Adama wrestles the detonator away from Tyrol and activates it, nothing happens. Unknown to them, Cavil, Three, and Baltar have removed the detonator caps from the G-4 immediately after they entered the Temple.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chief Tyrol and the team see the atmosphere ripple and pulsate as the star begins its nova. The star&#039;s corona (or its effect on the atmosphere above the Temple) takes shape to form a likeness of the circular multicolored starburst-like [[w:mandala|mandala]] that decorated the Temple. Tyrol quickly realizes that the star itself &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; the Eye of Jupiter. The Colonial team goes to investigate.&lt;br /&gt;
*The algae planet&#039;s home star has made a helium burst of its outer atmosphere. The star is going nova. Everyone, Cylon and Colonial alike, have less than an hour to escape the system.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Agathon and Caprica-Six arrive at Hera&#039;s room, where Agathon&#039;s &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; predecessor, [[Sharon Valerii]], is tending the child. Valerii is visibly angered at Agathon&#039;s presence. When Agathon picks up her crying daughter, the child&#039;s cries cease momentarily. Caprica-Six curiously realizes that, while both Agathon and Valerii are biologically identical, Hera is able to recognize her mother.&lt;br /&gt;
*Agathon&#039;s human first-aid training recognizes that Hera&#039;s stomach is too firm, suggesting a possible intestinal blockage. When Valerii comments that the Cylon doctors detected no such problem, Agathon reminds her that the Cylons have no pediatric care experience, having medical experience only with the adult-sized humanoids of their kind.&lt;br /&gt;
*Agathon tries to have Valerii remember her love of Chief Tyrol and Admiral Adama, but the former &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; denies her past and rescinds all possibility that humans and Cylons could co-exist, remembering the events on [[New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Agathon pulls Caprica-Six from Hera&#039;s bedside and tells her that, for Hera to survive, she must return her to medical facilities on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. Complicating this, Valerii grows jealous in her inability to help Hera, appearing to become unstable, and physically threatens to break Hera&#039;s neck. Agathon pleads for Hera&#039;s life as Caprica-Six manages to knock out Valerii. To prevent her from reviving and perhaps alerting others, Six breaks Valerii&#039;s neck.&lt;br /&gt;
*Agathon and Caprica-Six agree that Hera (and others that come after her) are crucial to the future of the Cylons (and, by implication, the Colonials). They make their way to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; by way of a captured Raptor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 4===&lt;br /&gt;
*Inside the Temple of Five, Baltar quietly notes a Colonial sidearm left behind while Cavil and Three example the structure. When the virtual Six points out the only mandala on a raised section of the floor, Baltar notes it, and Three gravitates to it as well.&lt;br /&gt;
*The supernova&#039;s effect or light is being channeled through the central spire&#039;s crystalline mechanisms and activates a beam of light on the floor&#039;s sunburst.&lt;br /&gt;
*Cavil attempts to stop the Three from using the beam, questioning Three&#039;s intentions not to find Earth in as much as seeking the forbidden information of the [[Final Five]]. He points a gun to shoot Three, but Baltar shoots and kills the Cavil from behind.&lt;br /&gt;
*Three walks into the beam and immediately sees the vision of the five she&#039;s seen before. Unlike before, however, she is able to discern the specific faces. Three stands in front of one face (not visible to viewers) and immediately recognizes it, apologizing to the being for past transgressions saying, &amp;quot;You... Forgive me I...I had no idea,&amp;quot; before the vision abruptly stops.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dualla manages to fly the Raptor away to space, with Starbuck&#039;s guidance.&lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Adama orders an immediate Raptor rescue of everyone on the planet after the Cylons [[Basestar (RDM)|baseships]] immediately retreat to escape the pending nova shockwave.&lt;br /&gt;
*Three&#039;s eyes whiten over, apparently suffering mortal damage from the use of the Temple&#039;s vision mechanism. Baltar grabs her as she falls.&lt;br /&gt;
*She says to Baltar, &amp;quot;You were right.&amp;quot; (It is possible she still thinks she is speaking to one of the Final Five.)  Baltar tries to get Three to tell her what she has seen; specifically, Baltar wants to know if she saw his face among the [[Final five|image of five beings]]. However, Three dies before he gets an answer.&lt;br /&gt;
*Baltar drops Three&#039;s body and stands in the mandala, attempting to see the vision himself. However, the Temple&#039;s illumination from the star has ceased, and so has the vision mechanism. As Baltar prays to God to help him, he finds the barrel of a Colonial sidearm resting on his head, and Chief Tyrol is holding it. The Chief sarcastically greets the deposed president and pistol-whips him unconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
*Raptors are seen flying away from the planet and to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The battlestar is under full sublight power, escaping from orbit while buying time for the Raptors to land and for the battlestar to prep for an [[FTL]] jump. The nova shockwave is approaching rapidly.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; barely escapes the remains of the algae planet as the star&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s shockwave tears through its system.  She momentarily reels out of control due to the leading edges of the shockwave reaching her before her escape.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chief Tyrol and his group unload a body bag from his Raptor onto a gurney. He stops the gurney and discreetly shows Colonel Tigh that Baltar is inside, alive but unconscious. Tigh orders Tyrol to have Baltar taken to the [[brig]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Samuel Anders and Kara Thrace reunite. Lee Adama and Dualla, each on opposite sides of Thrace and Anders, see this as well. Adama moves to embrace his wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*In a briefing, Tyrol, Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]], Roslin, Admiral Adama and Helo analyze the new supernova and compare it to the Temple&#039;s mandala, realizing that the [[Thirteenth Tribe]] must have wanted anyone who followed after them to look for this mandala, or specifically, another supernova. Gaeta finds the remains of a similar supernova over 10,000 light years away, in the [[Ionian system]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Helo is fascinated over a picture of the temple&#039;s mandala. He makes his way to Kara Thrace&#039;s quarters and asks if she had any photos of her old apartment on [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
*He finds a painting that Thrace had made on one of her apartment&#039;s walls. It is very similar to the temple&#039;s mandala, which was created 4,000 years before.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Thrace sees this, her mood darkens. She tells Helo that she had doodled this symbol often as child because she liked the colors, having no prior source for the symbol. She relates something that a [[Leoben Conoy|Leoben]] Cylon told her [[Flesh and Bone|over a year before]]: Thrace had a [[Maelstrom|destiny]], and, according to Leoben, it was already pre-written.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the Resurrection Ship, D&#039;Anna-Three downloads successfully to find a Cavil sitting next to her tank. Cavil notes curiously that at least Three will not have to go through the process of resurrection again, and explains why.&lt;br /&gt;
*The other Cylons believe that Three&#039;s delusions of messianic intentions have revealed her as an inherently flawed design. Three counters that it is not wrong to seek ones own purpose, that the search for who and why the Cylons were built is an important task.&lt;br /&gt;
*The decision has been made to [[boxing|box]] the entire model. Three tells Cavil that he and the others will see the faces of the Final Five one day, but with a press of a button by Cavil, Three and all of her kind are deactivated. The scene expands to show other Cavils performing the same task on hundreds of other resurrection tanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prior to the airing of this episode, [[James Callis]] revealed that [[Gaius Baltar]] returns to &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; in this episode.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=1659 |title=Exclusive Interview: JAMES CALLIS SELLS iF MAGAZINE A BILL OF GOODS ON BATTLESTAR GALATICA SEASON 3 -PART 1 |date=2006-09-09 |accessdate=2006-09-09 |last=Elliot |first=Sean |format= |language=English }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* According to the [[Podcast:Rapture|RDM podcast]], the [[:Image:Valley_of_Darkness-Starbuck_Helo.jpg|image in Kara&#039;s apartment]] was a symbol that the actress had decided to paint before the actual shooting occurred.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Rapture|act=4|id=Karapainting|timestamp=39:16|totalrunning=45:00}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Moreover, the ground battle was originally shot more structured. [[Bradley Thompson]] spent time on location to work out the tactics used by both sides to create a realistic engagement. However, that didn&#039;t translate on screen. Partly because of the many closeups, most of the terrain looks the same, making it impossible to get an impression of the location of each fire team. As a result the battle was heavily cut and changed in the editing room, to at least make it the most exciting.&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Foliole|cigar box]] from which Helo takes the photo of Starbuck&#039;s apartment is the same one she picked up there in &amp;quot;[[Valley of Darkness]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Eye of Jupiter and Starbuck&#039;s artwork bear a strong resemblance to the [[w:Ring Nebula|Ring Nebula]]. However, the order of colors from center to edge is different: blue, white and red for true color images of the actual nebula; blue, red and yellow for the Eye. The actual nebula is also a bit more oval in appearance while the Eye is nearly circular.&lt;br /&gt;
* The leitmotif &amp;quot;Sense of Six&amp;quot; which normally is played for appearances of [[Virtual beings|Baltar&#039;s Inner-Six]] is played for D&#039;Anna&#039;s death scene in Baltar&#039;s arms.   It is not played, however, for Inner-Six&#039;s appearance within the temple.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Final five|five figures in white]] bear a striking resemblance to the occupants of the [[Ship of Lights]] from the [[Original Series]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If the device which triggered D&#039;Anna&#039;s vision was a viewing mechanism which was programmed when the temple was built, D&#039;Anna&#039;s recognition of one of the figures in white would mean that there is some substantial connection between whomever the Temple of Five was dedicated to and the Cylons.  &lt;br /&gt;
* If the five priests are actually the Final Five (this has not been determined to be more than assumptions), then the Cylons are using ancient genetic templates as indicated by their susceptibility to a virus that the rest of the human race was immune to.&lt;br /&gt;
* The basestar command apparently does not require consensus of all models, or need not have them to have a representative at the command center. [[Simon]] and [[Number Five]] are not seen during this episode. Of course, since there were only seven models at the time, four models casting the same vote is decisive. This is exactly what happened when Six, Eight, Leoben and Cavil voted in favor of recalling the Raiders.&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite no longer being XO, Helo is still included in high-level briefings. This may reflect another facet to his current duties aside from mere Raptor jockeying (this may also be supported by the fact that he is more often seen in uniform rather than flight suit or fatigues currently).&lt;br /&gt;
* The tension between Athena and Boomer reaches a climax when Athena attempts to rescue her daughter. It has become clear that Boomer, like Athena, was presented with two choices, but unlike Athena, did not choose the path that led to forgiveness. Both Eights had suffered persecution from the Colonials. Athena, however, partly due to her love for Helo and Adama, chose to forgive, while Boomer allowed the failure of New Caprica to push her over to the belief that humans and Cylons should go their separate ways.&lt;br /&gt;
* Boomer comments that Cavil believes that the Cylons aren&#039;t supposed to have children. This is unsurprising, given that model&#039;s lack of religious faith and belief that the Cylons shouldn&#039;t be emulating humans.&lt;br /&gt;
* Caprica-Six continues her defiance against Cylon society by choosing to believe in a possible new future between Cylons and humans.  This particular Cylon, ever since her deception that led to fall of humanity, has consistently shown increasingly human traits. Like her decision to save Anders by killing a [[Number Three|Three]] to pave the way for a possible new future between Cylons and humans, her decision to kill Boomer to save Hera echoes those same beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
* The rescue of the people on the [[algae planet]] occurs in an extremely short amount of screen time. This is reminiscent of the short amount of screen time that was given to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; retrieving her fighters before jumping away from the [[Battle of New Caprica]]. As noted in prior podcasts, sometimes there just isn&#039;t enough time available in each episode to show everything in detail, which makes it necessary to compress events.&lt;br /&gt;
* The survivor count decreased by one at the start of this episode counting the loss of one of the civilian combatants during a gunfight on the planet&#039;s surface.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hera]], according to Caprica-Six, is able to distinguish her mother from the other [[Number Eight|Eights]]. Whether this indicates that Hera inherited a Cylon ability is yet to be seen. At the very least, on an emotional level, Athena and Hera have a mother-daughter bond that does not exist with [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]].&lt;br /&gt;
* According to the RDM podcast, Boomer&#039;s jealousy and rage developed over time, especially when she became Hera&#039;s primary caretaker. When it became apparent that Hera was not responding well to Boomer, she slowly developed a resentment towards Athena, because according to the Cylons, Hera existed because of God&#039;s true love. This implicated that the reason that Boomer and [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] were not able to conceive was because they didn&#039;t have true love between them. This, and Hera&#039;s response once Athena arrives, eventually led to the rage Boomer showed.&lt;br /&gt;
* After the initial stand-off ends when Adama decides to not nuke the planet, the defiant Three model states that no one would do such a thing over just one ship. However, ironically, that is exactly what Adama himself fears in &amp;quot;[[Hero]]&amp;quot; when he believes that the one recon fighter that crossed over into Cylon territory was what eventually led to the genocide of humanity.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ironically, the boxing of the Threes may actually make consensus harder to come by in the future. Now that the number of known Cylon models is an even six, a true deadlock is possible. &lt;br /&gt;
* The removal of the Threes also exaggerates the uneven gender ratio of the known models, from 4 male:3 female to 4 male:2 female.&lt;br /&gt;
* Now that Athena had resurrected into a new body, her susceptibility to the [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|Cylon virus]] is in question. Athena was immune because her child gave her body human antibodies to the disease ([[A Measure of Salvation]]). In a new body that has never given birth, a possible reintroduction of the virus could be lethal to Athena. Conversely, Athena&#039;s immunity could have become a programming element that downloaded along with the rest of her consciousness, just as the lethal virus could follow the consciousness of an infected humanoid Cylon to a [[Resurrection Ship]], potentially inoculating all Cylons against the virus.&lt;br /&gt;
* Three&#039;s conversation with Cavil at the end of the episode reveals that the [[humanoid Cylon]]s do not know who programmed them or why.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Who does D&#039;Anna recognize as being one of the [[Final Five]]? ([[Crossroads, Part II|Possible answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Why are the identities of the Final Five kept a secret? Why would the other seven Cylon models not know the identities of the Final Five, and why would the [[Cavil]] model want to prevent the others from learning about them? Do some or all of the Cylons not &#039;&#039;&#039;want&#039;&#039;&#039; to know and why would this be so?&lt;br /&gt;
* Have we seen the last of [[Number Three]]? &lt;br /&gt;
* Does a mechanism exist to revive boxed Cylons, given that their memories and thoughts still exist in cold storage?&lt;br /&gt;
* What is the connection between Starbuck and the [[Eye of Jupiter]]?&lt;br /&gt;
* What is Starbuck&#039;s destiny? ([[Maelstrom|Answer 1]], [[Crossroads, Part II|Answer 2]])&lt;br /&gt;
* What will President Roslin and Admiral Adama do with Baltar now they he is back in their custody? ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Has Roslin and Adama&#039;s relationship soured now that Adama knows of Roslin&#039;s involvement with hiding Hera? ([[A Day in the Life|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* What will happen to [[Caprica-Six]] now that she is on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;? ([[The Son Also Rises|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Do the Cylons realize the significance between the mandala and the nova?&lt;br /&gt;
* With the [[Temple of Five|temple]] destroyed, what is the significance of Baltar being the &amp;quot;chosen one&amp;quot; rather than D&#039;Anna?&lt;br /&gt;
* What does D&#039;Anna mean when she tells Baltar that he was right? Is she saying that he is a Cylon or is she referring to something else that he said to her earlier?  Or does she still think she is speaking to one of the Final Five?&lt;br /&gt;
* Have any of the [[Number Three]] models escaped the boxing by fleeing for their own survival? Or have they all gone &amp;quot;quietly into the night&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is the &amp;quot;[[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)|jealous god]]&amp;quot; of the Colonials, the God of the Cylons, and the god that the Temple of Five was dedicated to, one and the same?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was the temple dedicated to the five priests who served a separate unnamed god?&lt;br /&gt;
* Are the five priests the Final Five?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is the empty drape for a god, the chosen one or somebody else?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will the Colonials discover that Caprica-Six was the Cylon that created the backdoor to the Colonial Defense system? ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Why does D&#039;Anna tell Cavil he will see the &amp;quot;five other Cylons&amp;quot; &amp;quot;one day... one day&amp;quot; when in theory she now knows he has seen at least 4 of them, two quite intimately?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements == &lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Chief Tyrol finds Gaius Baltar standing alone in the Temple of Five:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tyrol:&#039;&#039;&#039; Welcome home, Mr. President. (Pistol-whips Baltar, knocking him unconscious)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Number Three (D&#039;Anna Biers)  to Cavil in the Temple of Five:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three:&#039;&#039;&#039; This is my destiny. To see what lies between life and death.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest Stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Captain [[Karl Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Lieutenant [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Cavil]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Hoshi]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eileen Pedde]] as Gunnery Seargant [[Erin Mathias]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alisen Down]] as [[Jean Barolay]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Diego Diablo Del Mar]] as [[Hillard]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aleks Paunovic]] as Sergeant [[Omar Fischer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tygh Runyan]] as Private [[Sykes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Exodus, Part II</title>
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| title= Exodus, Part II&lt;br /&gt;
| image=TighAdamaReunion.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| season= 3&lt;br /&gt;
| episode= 4&lt;br /&gt;
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]&lt;br /&gt;
| writer= [[Bradley Thompson]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; [[David Weddle]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story= &lt;br /&gt;
| director= [[Félix Enríquez Alcalá]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production= 304&lt;br /&gt;
| rating=1.5&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate= 2006-10-20&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=&lt;br /&gt;
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| population=&lt;br /&gt;
| prev= [[Exodus, Part I]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next= [[Collaborators]]&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast= Y&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Commander [[Lee Adama]] of the battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)| Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; has serious doubts about the success of the [[New Caprica]] rescue mission by &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. On New Caprica, [[Saul Tigh]] decides the consequences for his [[Ellen Tigh |wife&#039;s]] betrayal of [[The Resistance | the Resistance]]. Aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Admiral [[William Adama]] executes a dramatic rescue plan.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Teaser===&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, [[Lee Adama]] and [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]] talk of &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;s&#039;&#039; mission. Adama worries that Admiral Adama&#039;s mission will fail, and about his impending responsibilities as leader of [[The Fleet]]. Dee notes that Lee has given up hope on his father, but expresses her faith in her husband.&lt;br /&gt;
*On New Caprica, [[Samuel Anders]] confronts [[Saul Tigh]] about [[Ellen Tigh|his wife Ellen&#039;s]] betrayal and tells him that either Tigh &amp;quot;takes care&amp;quot; of Ellen, or someone less sympathetic will do so.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 1===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Saulellen.jpg|Saul handing Ellen her poisoned drink.|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Ellen Tigh explains her recent actions, that she would do absolutely anything to save Saul, including betraying the resistance. Tigh consoles her and provides her a drink when she asks. She falls unconscious, her drink having been poisoned by her husband. He says that he loves her, rests his head on her corpse, and weeps.&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039;, [[Gaius Baltar]] tells the Cylons that they have failed in their experiment and suggests the Cylons simply leave. A [[Number Three|Three]] voices the concern that one day the descendants of mankind might exact vengeance upon the Cylons, should they be left to their own devices.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] suddenly looks up, noticing dozens of explosions can outside the window, signalling the beginning of the [[Battle of New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Anders and the resistance team has set a series of explosions, mimicking a Fleet attack and causing confusion among the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tory Foster]] commands a team of section leaders in the evacuation and orders [[Maya]] to head for her ship with [[Hera|Isis]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Anders and a large group of resistance fighters retrieve weapons from beneath the [[Pyramid (RDM)|Pyramid]] court to rescue the detainees in the [[New Caprica Detention Center|detention center]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In space above New Caprica, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; deploys a squadron of Raptors and Vipers. The Raptors launch [[swallow]]s to mimic the EM signature of two Colonial battlestars. The Cylons pick them up and fall for the ruse, moving two basestars with their Raiders away from the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylon command on &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039; initially are fooled by the swallows and their mimicked battlestar signatures.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 2===&lt;br /&gt;
*The Raptors succeed in drawing off the entire Raider defenses of the two baseships, and leave the vicinity of New Caprica with the Raiders in pursuit.&lt;br /&gt;
*When [[Leoben Conoy]] leaves the residence inside the Detention Center to aid with the fighting, he keeps [[Kara Thrace]] inside. She assaults him and tries to escape, but he knocks her unconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tom Zarek]] tasks [[James Lyman|Jammer]] to protect [[Laura Roslin]] as she makes her way to &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*At the entrance to the shipyard, where the Cylons keep the grounded Colonial vessels, a team under Tigh and [[Galen Tyrol]] are pinned down by [[Cylon Centurion]]s. &lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons realize the decoy drones as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; jumps into the planet&#039;s upper atmosphere, avoiding initial detection from the baseships. As the ship plunges rapidly towards the planet, mid-descent, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; launches its Vipers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Before it could collide with the ground, the ship jumps back into space. The Vipers begin to attack targets on the ground and clear the way of Centurions for civilians to escape.&lt;br /&gt;
*As others are freed from the Detention Center, Anders finds his unconscious wife and carries her away.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is shaken up by her reentry to orbit. Their plan to remove the Raider fighter defenses to allow the civilians to escape is working, and, according to plan, the two basestars near the planet are coming for them. But when two more baseships appear out of the nebula, Admiral Adama realizes they cannot hold off all four.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 3===&lt;br /&gt;
*The battle is turning against &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. Her FTL drives are down, most of her weapons are offline and there is heavy structural damage from the atmospheric entry. The basestars are closing in and the battlestar is bombarded from all sides with no hope of survival. &amp;quot;It&#039;s been an honor,&amp;quot; Adama says.&lt;br /&gt;
*At that moment &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; joins the battle, Lee Adama having disobeyed his father&#039;s orders. He opens fire with the forward batteries and incapitates one basestar in the opening salvo. Admiral Adama orders priority repairs on the FTL drives.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Thrace awakens, she goes back to retrieve [[Kacey]] against Anders&#039; advice, who soon follows her.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons realize that they have lost and decide to evacuate the planet. [[Number Three]] volunteers to stay behind and set off the nuclear weapon that was left in the city for such a contingency. She offers Baltar a place with the Cylons and leaves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Several Colonial ships initiate intra-atmosphere [[FTL|jumps]] from New Caprica as soon as they become airborne.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; succeeds in drawing fire off of her sister ship, and is heavily bombarded by missiles, having left all of her Vipers back with the rest of the civilian Fleet. Admiral Adama realizes that his son has planned a one-way mission for &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and orders recall of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; fighters.&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039;, [[Felix Gaeta]] holds Baltar at gunpoint, and accuses of having betrayed humanity. Gaeta admits his guilt in idealistically believing in Baltar, but has realized, in the end, that Baltar was only thinking about himself. Baltar admits his own guilt and begs Gaeta to shoot him.  Gaeta relents, however, giving Baltar a final chance to redeem himself: stop Three from setting off the nuclear bomb.&lt;br /&gt;
*With &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; dying, Lee Adama orders everyone to abandon ship. He sets the ship [[CBDR]] with a basestar as the last of the crew leaves in Raptors. &#039;&#039;Pegasus’&#039;&#039; collides with a basestar, destroying it; the remains of &#039;&#039;Pegasus’&#039;&#039; starboard [[flight pod]] collides with and destroys yet another basestar.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kara Thrace returns to the apartment to find Kacey, and Conoy enters with the child.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 4===&lt;br /&gt;
*To try to regain possession of Kacey, Kara Thrace appears to give in to Leoben&#039;s demands to say &amp;quot;I love you.&amp;quot; She does, and kisses him. As they are embraced, Thrace uses the diversion to stab the Cylon to death. She picks up Kacey and leaves with Anders.&lt;br /&gt;
*Three searches [[Dodona Selloi]]&#039;s tent, but the [[oracle]] has left. Outside, [[Caprica-Six]] and Baltar find Hera next to [[Maya]]&#039;s lifeless body, still alive.&lt;br /&gt;
*Three arrives, asks to hold the child, and leaves with her. [[Caprica-Six]] says Three no longer intends to detonate the nuke, then leaves the planet with Baltar.&lt;br /&gt;
*Laura Roslin and a group of resistance fighters enter the now abandoned &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039; and are the last ship to leave the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, many people are reunited as Tyrol immediately takes charge of ushering the incoming refugees. When Thrace shows Kacey to Tyrol, [[Julia Brynn|another woman]] walks by and recognizes the girl as her daughter, whom the Cylons had stolen. The mother thanks Thrace for rescuing Kacey. Thrace is visibly and emotionally paralyzed by the revelation that Kacey is not her actual daughter. &lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Adama gives a warm welcome to his son, who was happy not to have followed his father&#039;s orders.&lt;br /&gt;
*The admiral welcomes Tigh back aboard, and congratulates him on bringing everyone back from New Caprica. With a tremble to his voice, Tigh quietly replies, &amp;quot;[[Ellen Tigh|Not all of them]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*The colonists in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[hangar deck]] begin chanting &amp;quot;A-dam-a, A-dam-a...&amp;quot; and carry the admiral on their shoulders in celebration. Adama turns to see Tigh wandering off, numbed with grief.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tory Foster tells Roslin that neither Maya nor Hera can be found, and it seems likely neither made it off the planet. Foster apologizes, but Roslin muses that this was part of [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|something bigger than them]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Adama shaves off his mustache and returns to a fully staffed [[CIC]], aboard the now very loud, bustling corridors of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Exodus, Part II&amp;quot; was awarded the [[Awards and Honors|IGN.com Editor&#039;s choice award]], following a review in which it recieved a rating of 9/10. This marks the second of such awards presented for the third season, the first of which was awarded for the season premiere [[Occupation]].&lt;br /&gt;
* There is also a TOS comic named &#039;&#039;[[Exodus!]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode marks the destruction of &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* The two parts of &amp;quot;Exodus&amp;quot; were originally planned as one episode. However, it was quickly realized that the story was far too large for one episode and it was split in two. This happened before with &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Valley of Darkness]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Resurrection Ship]].&amp;quot; It also helped save money because the construction of New Caprica, the extensive location shooting, the number of actors, as well as the special effects for &amp;quot;Exodus, Part II&amp;quot; were very expensive and the production was over budget.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Viper Mark VIIs deployed by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; in this episode have a yellow engine-glow instead of their usual blue. This is also the case in &amp;quot;[[Maelstrom]]&amp;quot; suggesting that it is a normal effect in atmospheric flight.&lt;br /&gt;
* The moment where Lee pauses to look back at the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; CIC and says &amp;quot;thank you&amp;quot; is reminiscent of a similar moment in the &#039;&#039;[[MemoryAlpha:Ds9|Deep Space Nine]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[MemoryAlpha:The Changing Face of Evil|The Changing Face of Evil]]&amp;quot;, in which, after the doomed &#039;&#039;Defiant&#039;&#039; is ordered to be evacuated, Captain Sisko takes a long look back at his ruined bridge. As with &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, in the next shot, the ship is destroyed. Bradley Thompson and David Weddle, who wrote &amp;quot;Exodus, Part II&amp;quot;, were staff writers on DS9.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kate Vernon on the SciFi Forums&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2250922&amp;amp;st=64&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stated that Ellen Tigh knew about the poison in her drink.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Battle of New Caprica]] scenes were constructed using [[w:Lightwave|Lightwave]], with each [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raider]] being [[w:keyframe|keyframe]] animated.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite_web|url=http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/currentissue/7304.html|title=Heavy-Duty VFX Management for Battlestar Galactica: Tracking 100s of Layers to Render Huge Space Scenes on Deadline|date=1 November 2006|accessdate=10 February 2007|last=Frazer|first=Bryant|format=|language=}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*When &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; jumps several thousand feet from the surface of [[New Caprica]] a vacuum is created by the sudden loss of mass that consumes the re-entry fires engulfing its hull and the clouds surrounding it.  A sonic boom and a shock wave are also produced when it jumps.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Baltar may not be aware that most of the civilians have escaped the planet when he says, in the Gaeta-Baltar scene, &amp;quot;The Cylons have a nuke in this complex.  Nobody, and I mean nobody, is getting off this planet alive unless I stop D&#039;Anna.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons were not keeping closer tabs on the whereabouts of the launch keys -- no alarms or other warning -- and didn&#039;t notice they were gone until the attack started. Since only a Cylon could enter the facility, and as the only other Cylon (one of the Threes) was incapacitated before the attack (possibly unable to download and warn the others), this appears a logical omission. Cylons aren&#039;t generally treacherous within their own body, save two exceptions: Sharon Agathon&#039;s actions, and the Three&#039;s later actions in the [[Eye of Jupiter]] story arc.&lt;br /&gt;
*While it seems that the Cylons leave the planet implausibly under-guarded, Ron Moore has mentioned in his podcasts that the Cylons do have major operations elsewhere (possibly hinting at the search for Earth story arcs later in the season).&lt;br /&gt;
*With the former crew of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; now, the ship has something close to its standard crew size. (&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew was deduced to be 2,693 in the episode &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;s&#039;&#039; was introduced with a crew count of 1,752 in &amp;quot;[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]&amp;quot; (see [[Crew tally]]). William Adama notes that over half of the crew has settled on [[New Caprica]] in &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]&amp;quot;, and Lee confirms that both ships are at half-strength in &amp;quot;[[Occupation]]&amp;quot;.) Military operations should be much smoother now, and repairs to the ship in general are more feasible.&lt;br /&gt;
*While the combination of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; air groups give the latter battlestar a full-strength fighter wing, the Fleet has suffered the loss of its most advanced and best-armed warship. With it also went the capability to build replacement Vipers. Defensively, the Fleet is pretty much back to the position it was in when it left the Colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; parallels its role with the [[Pegasus (TOS)|original &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;]] as it fights to the end to defeat two basestars, allowing &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;and the Fleet to escape from the Cylons.  However, while the Original Series left the fate of its &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and her crew to speculation, the Re-imagined continuity&#039;s &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is totally destroyed and its crew evacuated.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*With Baltar missing at the conclusion of this episode, who will become the President of the Twelve Colonies? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What will be the final disposition of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; officers, and the former military personnel who have returned from New Caprica? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Did Ellen Tigh know or suspect that the drink was poisoned? ([[Exodus, Part II#Notes|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What consequences will Ellen Tigh&#039;s death have for her husband? Will Saul Tigh return to his old alcoholic habits? ([[The Circle|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What equipment and people were left behind on [[New Caprica]]? (Answer about people: [[Survivor Count]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Will Gaeta be the target of persecution or assassination as a collaborator?  Or will people believe in him when he is found out to be the secret informant? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Will [[Cally Tyrol]] identify Jammer as the NCP officer who released her, based on his voice? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Now that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is carrying the Viper squadrons from both battlestars, will the starboard flight pod be returned to service? ([[The Woman King|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* What are the Cylons&#039; plans for Gaius Baltar? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* How does Internal Six know that the baby [[Maya]] had was Hera?&lt;br /&gt;
* Where is [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Boomer]]? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* How many ships are in the Fleet as of the [[Battle of New Caprica]]? Also, in light of the exodus, what of consumables and other resources needed to sustain the Fleet? Were these loaded into ships already as part of the escape plan?&lt;br /&gt;
*In what condition are &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[Battery|gun batteries]] following the Battle of New Caprica? Do any of them remain operable, or is &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; largely stripped of its main armaments?&lt;br /&gt;
*Did Lee order all supplies on the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; not essential to the suicide run to be dumped overboard?  Is this how the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; gets its additional nuclear armaments seen in [[The Eye of Jupiter]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Lee discussing Adama&#039;s orders with Dualla:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hoshi&#039;s working on updating our map coordinates for the search for Earth. Civilian captains want to meet with you. They have questions, problems... [He is silent.] Talk to me, Lee.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: I&#039;m having trouble... accepting this.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: I know. But we have to push forward. Keep the Fleet together. Find Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Right. That&#039;s our duty.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: There&#039;s still a chance they&#039;ll come back. Your father has pulled off more than a few miracles in his day.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: I know that. And I haven&#039;t given up hope.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Yes, you have. I saw the look on your face when you came back from the Galactica. Like you were never gonna see him again.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Am I that easy to read?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Just to me.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: He&#039;s taking on too much for one half-strength Battlestar to handle. And that&#039;s not opinion. That&#039;s military fact. He&#039;s not coming back from this. None of them are.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: All we can do is make plans for the future. We have to survive. We have to find Earth. If we don&#039;t, they&#039;ll be no one to remember a man named William Adama. Or a Battlestar named Galactica. That is our charge to keep.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: To keep humanity going. No matter what the cost. No matter -- No matter who we leave behind.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: You can do this. You can get us there. You are Commander of this Fleet, and you will guide us to safety. And you will do it no matter the cost. Because you&#039;re an Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Did I ever tell you how proud I am to serve with you?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Not in so many words, no.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Well, I am proud to serve with you, Lieutenant. And to call you my wife. [They kiss.] Now let&#039;s talk about... map coordinates, meeting with ships&#039; captains.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Discussing the failure of the occupation:&#039;&#039;	 &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three&#039;&#039;&#039;: What would you have us do, Gaius?	 &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: Leave. Pack up your centurions, and go. Please. Go.	 &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three&#039;&#039;&#039;: And then what? What would you do if we really just left you here? You&#039;d live out your lives in peace and never trouble yourselves with thoughts of us again? Or would you raise your children with stories of the Cylon, the mechanical slaves who once did your bidding, only to turn against you? Killers who committed genocide against your race, the occupiers of this city until we just ran away? Would you tell them to tell the story to their children, and to their childrens&#039; children, and nurse a dream of vengeance down through the years so that one day they could just go out into the stars and hunt the Cylon once more? &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: Blood for blood ...has to stop one day.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Roslin heads to &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039;:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Roslin&#039;&#039;&#039;: My ship&#039;s up there.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Zarek&#039;&#039;&#039;: You sure have a sense of the dramatic.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Adama comes to accept &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s end:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Admiral Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Then that&#039;s it. It&#039;s been an honor.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;After Hearing &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; Has Joined &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Admiral William Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Damn You, Lee ...Thank You, Lee.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;The &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is evacuated before its destruction:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla:&#039;&#039;&#039; Alright, people, let&#039;s move. Out! Let&#039;s go. (To Lee): You too, Commander.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes, sir. (Begins to leave, then stops and looks around at &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;): Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;As the two Adamas reunite after the battle:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Admiral William Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I guess you didn&#039;t understand my orders.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I never could read your handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Adama welcomes Col. Tigh back to &#039;&#039;Galactica:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; You did it, Saul. You brought them back.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; Not all of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest Stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Erica Cerra]] as [[Maya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Madeline Parker]] as [[Kacey]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman|James &amp;quot;Jammer&amp;quot; Lyman]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eileen Pedde]] as [[Erin Mathias]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ryan Robbins]] as [[Charlie Connor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emilie Ullerup]] as [[Julia Brynn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Exodus, Part II</title>
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| title= Exodus, Part II&lt;br /&gt;
| image=TighAdamaReunion.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| season= 3&lt;br /&gt;
| episode= 4&lt;br /&gt;
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]&lt;br /&gt;
| writer= [[Bradley Thompson]] &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; [[David Weddle]]&lt;br /&gt;
| story= &lt;br /&gt;
| director= [[Félix Enríquez Alcalá]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production= 304&lt;br /&gt;
| rating=1.5&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate= 2006-10-20&lt;br /&gt;
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| prev= [[Exodus, Part I]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next= [[Collaborators]]&lt;br /&gt;
| podcast= Y&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Commander [[Lee Adama]] of the battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)| Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; has serious doubts about the success of the [[New Caprica]] rescue mission by &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. On New Caprica, [[Saul Tigh]] decides the consequences for his [[Ellen Tigh |wife&#039;s]] betrayal of [[The Resistance | the Resistance]]. Aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Admiral [[William Adama]] executes a dramatic rescue plan.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Teaser===&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, [[Lee Adama]] and [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]] talk of &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;s&#039;&#039; mission. Adama worries that Admiral Adama&#039;s mission will fail, and about his impending responsibilities as leader of [[The Fleet]]. Dee notes that Lee has given up hope on his father, but expresses her faith in her husband.&lt;br /&gt;
*On New Caprica, [[Samuel Anders]] confronts [[Saul Tigh]] about [[Ellen Tigh|his wife Ellen&#039;s]] betrayal and tells him that either Tigh &amp;quot;takes care&amp;quot; of Ellen, or someone less sympathetic will do so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 1===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Saulellen.jpg|Saul handing Ellen her poisoned drink.|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Ellen Tigh explains her recent actions, that she would do absolutely anything to save Saul, including betraying the resistance. Tigh consoles her and provides her a drink when she asks. She falls unconscious, her drink having been poisoned by her husband. He says that he loves her, rests his head on her corpse, and weeps.&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039;, [[Gaius Baltar]] tells the Cylons that they have failed in their experiment and suggests the Cylons simply leave. A [[Number Three|Three]] voices the concern that one day the descendants of mankind might exact vengeance upon the Cylons, should they be left to their own devices.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] suddenly looks up, noticing dozens of explosions can outside the window, signalling the beginning of the [[Battle of New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Anders and the resistance team has set a series of explosions, mimicking a Fleet attack and causing confusion among the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tory Foster]] commands a team of section leaders in the evacuation and orders [[Maya]] to head for her ship with [[Hera|Isis]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Anders and a large group of resistance fighters retrieve weapons from beneath the [[Pyramid (RDM)|Pyramid]] court to rescue the detainees in the [[New Caprica Detention Center|detention center]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In space above New Caprica, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; deploys a squadron of Raptors and Vipers. The Raptors launch [[swallow]]s to mimic the EM signature of two Colonial battlestars. The Cylons pick them up and fall for the ruse, moving two basestars with their Raiders away from the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylon command on &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039; initially are fooled by the swallows and their mimicked battlestar signatures.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 2===&lt;br /&gt;
*The Raptors succeed in drawing off the entire Raider defenses of the two baseships, and leave the vicinity of New Caprica with the Raiders in pursuit.&lt;br /&gt;
*When [[Leoben Conoy]] leaves the residence inside the Detention Center to aid with the fighting, he keeps [[Kara Thrace]] inside. She assaults him and tries to escape, but he knocks her unconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tom Zarek]] tasks [[James Lyman|Jammer]] to protect [[Laura Roslin]] as she makes her way to &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*At the entrance to the shipyard, where the Cylons keep the grounded Colonial vessels, a team under Tigh and [[Galen Tyrol]] are pinned down by [[Cylon Centurion]]s. &lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons realize the decoy drones as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; jumps into the planet&#039;s upper atmosphere, avoiding initial detection from the baseships. As the ship plunges rapidly towards the planet, mid-descent, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; launches its Vipers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Before it could collide with the ground, the ship jumps back into space. The Vipers begin to attack targets on the ground and clear the way of Centurions for civilians to escape.&lt;br /&gt;
*As others are freed from the Detention Center, Anders finds his unconscious wife and carries her away.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is shaken up by her reentry to orbit. Their plan to remove the Raider fighter defenses to allow the civilians to escape is working, and, according to plan, the two basestars near the planet are coming for them. But when two more baseships appear out of the nebula, Admiral Adama realizes they cannot hold off all four.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Act 3===&lt;br /&gt;
*The battle is turning against &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. Her FTL drives are down, most of her weapons are offline and there is heavy structural damage from the atmospheric entry. The basestars are closing in and the battlestar is bombarded from all sides with no hope of survival. &amp;quot;It&#039;s been an honor,&amp;quot; Adama says.&lt;br /&gt;
*At that moment &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; joins the battle, Lee Adama having disobeyed his father&#039;s orders. He opens fire with the forward batteries and incapitates one basestar in the opening salvo. Admiral Adama orders priority repairs on the FTL drives.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Thrace awakens, she goes back to retrieve [[Kacey]] against Anders&#039; advice, who soon follows her.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons realize that they have lost and decide to evacuate the planet. [[Number Three]] volunteers to stay behind and set off the nuclear weapon that was left in the city for such a contingency. She offers Baltar a place with the Cylons and leaves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Several Colonial ships initiate intra-atmosphere [[FTL|jumps]] from New Caprica as soon as they become airborne.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; succeeds in drawing fire off of her sister ship, and is heavily bombarded by missiles, having left all of her Vipers back with the rest of the civilian Fleet. Admiral Adama realizes that his son has planned a one-way mission for &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and orders recall of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; fighters.&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039;, [[Felix Gaeta]] holds Baltar at gunpoint, and accuses of having betrayed humanity. Gaeta admits his guilt in idealistically believing in Baltar, but has realized, in the end, that Baltar was only thinking about himself. Baltar admits his own guilt and begs Gaeta to shoot him.  Gaeta relents, however, giving Baltar a final chance to redeem himself: stop Three from setting off the nuclear bomb.&lt;br /&gt;
*With &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; dying, Lee Adama orders everyone to abandon ship. He sets the ship [[CBDR]] with a basestar as the last of the crew leaves in Raptors. &#039;&#039;Pegasus’&#039;&#039; collides with a basestar, destroying it; the remains of &#039;&#039;Pegasus’&#039;&#039; starboard [[flight pod]] collides with and destroys yet another basestar.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kara Thrace returns to the apartment to find Kacey, and Conoy enters with the child.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 4===&lt;br /&gt;
*To try to regain possession of Kacey, Kara Thrace appears to give in to Leoben&#039;s demands to say &amp;quot;I love you.&amp;quot; She does, and kisses him. As they are embraced, Thrace uses the diversion to stab the Cylon to death. She picks up Kacey and leaves with Anders.&lt;br /&gt;
*Three searches [[Dodona Selloi]]&#039;s tent, but the [[oracle]] has left. Outside, [[Caprica-Six]] and Baltar find Hera next to [[Maya]]&#039;s lifeless body, still alive.&lt;br /&gt;
*Three arrives, asks to hold the child, and leaves with her. [[Caprica-Six]] says Three no longer intends to detonate the nuke, then leaves the planet with Baltar.&lt;br /&gt;
*Laura Roslin and a group of resistance fighters enter the now abandoned &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039; and are the last ship to leave the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
*On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, many people are reunited as Tyrol immediately takes charge of ushering the incoming refugees. When Thrace shows Kacey to Tyrol, [[Julia Brynn|another woman]] walks by and recognizes the girl as her daughter, whom the Cylons had stolen. The mother thanks Thrace for rescuing Kacey. Thrace is visibly and emotionally paralyzed by the revelation that Kacey is not her actual daughter. &lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Adama gives a warm welcome to his son, who was happy not to have followed his father&#039;s orders.&lt;br /&gt;
*The admiral welcomes Tigh back aboard, and congratulates him on bringing everyone back from New Caprica. With a tremble to his voice, Tigh quietly replies, &amp;quot;[[Ellen Tigh|Not all of them]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*The colonists in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[hangar deck]] begin chanting &amp;quot;A-dam-a, A-dam-a...&amp;quot; and carry the admiral on their shoulders in celebration. Adama turns to see Tigh wandering off, numbed with grief.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tory Foster tells Roslin that neither Maya nor Hera can be found, and it seems likely neither made it off the planet. Foster apologizes, but Roslin muses that this was part of [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|something bigger than them]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Admiral Adama shaves off his mustache and returns to a fully staffed [[CIC]], aboard the now very loud, bustling corridors of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Exodus, Part II&amp;quot; was awarded the [[Awards and Honors|IGN.com Editor&#039;s choice award]], following a review in which it recieved a rating of 9/10. This marks the second of such awards presented for the third season, the first of which was awarded for the season premiere [[Occupation]].&lt;br /&gt;
* There is also a TOS comic named &#039;&#039;[[Exodus!]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode marks the destruction of &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* The two parts of &amp;quot;Exodus&amp;quot; were originally planned as one episode. However, it was quickly realized that the story was far too large for one episode and it was split in two. This happened before with &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Valley of Darkness]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Resurrection Ship]].&amp;quot; It also helped save money because the construction of New Caprica, the extensive location shooting, the number of actors, as well as the special effects for &amp;quot;Exodus, Part II&amp;quot; were very expensive and the production was over budget.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Viper Mark VIIs deployed by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; in this episode have a yellow engine-glow instead of their usual blue. This is also the case in &amp;quot;[[Maelstrom]]&amp;quot; suggesting that it is a normal effect in atmospheric flight.&lt;br /&gt;
* The moment where Lee pauses to look back at the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; CIC and says &amp;quot;thank you&amp;quot; is reminiscent of a similar moment in the &#039;&#039;[[MemoryAlpha:Ds9|Deep Space Nine]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[MemoryAlpha:The Changing Face of Evil|The Changing Face of Evil]]&amp;quot;, in which, after the doomed &#039;&#039;Defiant&#039;&#039; is ordered to be evacuated, Captain Sisko takes a long look back at his ruined bridge. As with &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, in the next shot, the ship is destroyed. Bradley Thompson and David Weddle, who wrote &amp;quot;Exodus, Part II&amp;quot;, were staff writers on DS9.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kate Vernon on the SciFi Forums&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2250922&amp;amp;st=64&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stated that Ellen Tigh knew about the poison in her drink.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Battle of New Caprica]] scenes were constructed using [[w:Lightwave|Lightwave]], with each [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raider]] being [[w:keyframe|keyframe]] animated.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite_web|url=http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/currentissue/7304.html|title=Heavy-Duty VFX Management for Battlestar Galactica: Tracking 100s of Layers to Render Huge Space Scenes on Deadline|date=1 November 2006|accessdate=10 February 2007|last=Frazer|first=Bryant|format=|language=}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*When &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; jumps several thousand feet from the surface of [[New Caprica]] a vacuum is created by the sudden loss of mass that consumes the re-entry fires engulfing its hull and the clouds surrounding it.  A sonic boom and a shock wave are also produced when it jumps.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Baltar may not be aware that most of the civilians have escaped the planet when he says, in the Gaeta-Baltar scene, &amp;quot;The Cylons have a nuke in this complex.  Nobody, and I mean nobody, is getting off this planet alive unless I stop D&#039;Anna.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cylons were not keeping closer tabs on the whereabouts of the launch keys -- no alarms or other warning -- and didn&#039;t notice they were gone until the attack started. Since only a Cylon could enter the facility, and as the only other Cylon (one of the Threes) was incapacitated before the attack (possibly unable to download and warn the others), this appears a logical omission. Cylons aren&#039;t generally treacherous within their own body, save two exceptions: Sharon Agathon&#039;s actions, and the Three&#039;s later actions in the [[Eye of Jupiter]] story arc.&lt;br /&gt;
*While it seems that the Cylons leave the planet implausibly under-guarded, Ron Moore has mentioned in his podcasts that the Cylons do have major operations elsewhere (possibly hinting at the search for Earth story arcs later in the season).&lt;br /&gt;
*With the former crew of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; now, the ship has something close to its standard crew size. (&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew was deduced to be 2,693 in the episode &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;s&#039;&#039; was introduced with a crew count of 1,752 in &amp;quot;[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]&amp;quot; (see [[Crew tally]]). William Adama notes that over half of the crew has settled on [[New Caprica]] in &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]&amp;quot;, and Lee confirms that both ships are at half-strength in &amp;quot;[[Occupation]]&amp;quot;.) Military operations should be much smoother now, and repairs to the ship in general are more feasible.&lt;br /&gt;
*While the combination of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; air groups give the latter battlestar a full-strength fighter wing, the Fleet has suffered the loss of its most advanced and best-armed warship. With it also went the capability to build replacement Vipers. Defensively, the Fleet is pretty much back to the position it was in when it left the Colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; parallels its role with the [[Pegasus (TOS)|original &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;]] as it fights to the end to defeat two basestars, allowing &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;and the Fleet to escape from the Cylons.  However, while the Original Series left the fate of its &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and her crew to speculation, the Re-imagined continuity&#039;s &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is totally destroyed and its crew evacuated.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*With Baltar missing at the conclusion of this episode, who will become the President of the Twelve Colonies? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What will be the final disposition of the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; officers, and the former military personnel who have returned from New Caprica? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Did Ellen Tigh know or suspect that the drink was poisoned? ([[Exodus, Part II#Notes|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What consequences will Ellen Tigh&#039;s death have for her husband? Will Saul Tigh return to his old alcoholic habits? ([[The Circle|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*What equipment and people were left behind on [[New Caprica]]? (Answer about people: [[Survivor Count]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Will Gaeta be the target of persecution or assassination as a collaborator?  Or will people believe in him when he is found out to be the secret informant? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Will [[Cally Tyrol]] identify Jammer as the NCP officer who released her, based on his voice? ([[Collaborators|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Now that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is carrying the Viper squadrons from both battlestars, will the starboard flight pod be returned to service? ([[The Woman King|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* What are the Cylons&#039; plans for Gaius Baltar? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* How does Internal Six know that the baby [[Maya]] had was Hera?&lt;br /&gt;
* Where is [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Boomer]]? ([[Torn|Answer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* How many ships are in the Fleet as of the [[Battle of New Caprica]]? Also, in light of the exodus, what of consumables and other resources needed to sustain the Fleet? Were these loaded into ships already as part of the escape plan?&lt;br /&gt;
*In what condition are &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[Battery|gun batteries]] following the Battle of New Caprica? Do any of them remain operable, or is &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; largely stripped of its main armaments?&lt;br /&gt;
*Did Lee order all supplies on the &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; not essential to the suicide run to be dumped overboard?  Is this how the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; gets its additional nuclear armaments seen in [[Rapture]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Lee discussing Adama&#039;s orders with Dualla:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hoshi&#039;s working on updating our map coordinates for the search for Earth. Civilian captains want to meet with you. They have questions, problems... [He is silent.] Talk to me, Lee.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: I&#039;m having trouble... accepting this.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: I know. But we have to push forward. Keep the Fleet together. Find Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Right. That&#039;s our duty.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: There&#039;s still a chance they&#039;ll come back. Your father has pulled off more than a few miracles in his day.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: I know that. And I haven&#039;t given up hope.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Yes, you have. I saw the look on your face when you came back from the Galactica. Like you were never gonna see him again.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Am I that easy to read?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Just to me.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: He&#039;s taking on too much for one half-strength Battlestar to handle. And that&#039;s not opinion. That&#039;s military fact. He&#039;s not coming back from this. None of them are.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: All we can do is make plans for the future. We have to survive. We have to find Earth. If we don&#039;t, they&#039;ll be no one to remember a man named William Adama. Or a Battlestar named Galactica. That is our charge to keep.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: To keep humanity going. No matter what the cost. No matter -- No matter who we leave behind.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: You can do this. You can get us there. You are Commander of this Fleet, and you will guide us to safety. And you will do it no matter the cost. Because you&#039;re an Adama.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Did I ever tell you how proud I am to serve with you?&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039;: Not in so many words, no.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Lee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Well, I am proud to serve with you, Lieutenant. And to call you my wife. [They kiss.] Now let&#039;s talk about... map coordinates, meeting with ships&#039; captains.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Discussing the failure of the occupation:&#039;&#039;	 &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three&#039;&#039;&#039;: What would you have us do, Gaius?	 &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: Leave. Pack up your centurions, and go. Please. Go.	 &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Number Three&#039;&#039;&#039;: And then what? What would you do if we really just left you here? You&#039;d live out your lives in peace and never trouble yourselves with thoughts of us again? Or would you raise your children with stories of the Cylon, the mechanical slaves who once did your bidding, only to turn against you? Killers who committed genocide against your race, the occupiers of this city until we just ran away? Would you tell them to tell the story to their children, and to their childrens&#039; children, and nurse a dream of vengeance down through the years so that one day they could just go out into the stars and hunt the Cylon once more? &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaius Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: Blood for blood ...has to stop one day.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Roslin heads to &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039;:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Roslin&#039;&#039;&#039;: My ship&#039;s up there.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Zarek&#039;&#039;&#039;: You sure have a sense of the dramatic.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Adama comes to accept &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s end:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Admiral Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Then that&#039;s it. It&#039;s been an honor.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;After Hearing &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; Has Joined &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Admiral William Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Damn You, Lee ...Thank You, Lee.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;The &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is evacuated before its destruction:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla:&#039;&#039;&#039; Alright, people, let&#039;s move. Out! Let&#039;s go. (To Lee): You too, Commander.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Lee Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes, sir. (Begins to leave, then stops and looks around at &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;): Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;As the two Adamas reunite after the battle:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Admiral William Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I guess you didn&#039;t understand my orders.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander Lee Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I never could read your handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Adama welcomes Col. Tigh back to &#039;&#039;Galactica:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Adama:&#039;&#039;&#039; You did it, Saul. You brought them back.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; Not all of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest Stars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl &amp;quot;Helo&amp;quot; Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally Tyrol]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Erica Cerra]] as [[Maya]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne &amp;quot;Kat&amp;quot; Katraine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Madeline Parker]] as [[Kacey]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman|James &amp;quot;Jammer&amp;quot; Lyman]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eileen Pedde]] as [[Erin Mathias]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ty Olsson]] as Captain [[Aaron Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ryan Robbins]] as [[Charlie Connor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emilie Ullerup]] as [[Julia Brynn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;For the Original Series &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (TOS)]]. For the Video Game &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (Video Game)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;For more general information about this type of ship, see [[Galactica type battlestar]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Bsg-bsg-1.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title= Galactica (BS 75)&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= Approximately 2,650 &lt;br /&gt;
| co= [[William Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
| xo= [[Saul Tigh]] (resumed position as of &amp;quot;[[The Passage]]&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Carrier / battleship hybrid&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= As many as 506 point-defense dual [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], 24 primary dual Kinetic Energy Weapons, at least 12 [[missile tubes]] capable of firing conventional and nuclear missiles, Vipers, Raptors&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Active&lt;br /&gt;
| img= Y&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Galactica type battlestar|The veteran battlestar]] &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; (BS 75)&#039;&#039;&#039; is the most famous warship in the [[Colonial Fleet]]. Built in time to participate in the [[Cylon War]], she remained the only military vessel without integrated [[Computers|computer networks]]. Without networked computers, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; never upgraded to the new [[Command Navigation Program|integrated defense system software]] developed by Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] and his [[Number Six|team]]. Because of this and other fortunes, she became one of only [[Pegasus (RDM)|two]] known battlestars to survive the renewed [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] on the [[Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]], some 40 years after the end of the first war. At the time of the attack, she was part of the 75th [[Battlestar Group]] (BSG-75).&lt;br /&gt;
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== History ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was one of the twelve first battlestars to be laid down by the Colonials. Initially they built a battlestar to represent each colony, where &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; represented [[Caprica]]. As such, she is some 50 years old. Following the outbreak of Cylon hostilities several more battlestars were built. &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; first commander was named [[Nash]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mini gal top.jpg|left|thumb|A dorsal view of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The starboard [[flight pod]] is covered by a window to form the [[Galactica Museum|museum area]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestars were all designed with non-integrated computer systems to avoid the Cylons&#039; demonstrated ability to override or subvert networked command and control systems early in the war ([[Miniseries]]). Rather than technological sophistication, the battlestar depended on its sheer bulk and defensive / offensive capabilities to ward off any threats to itself or the Colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the [[Armistice Station|armistice]] with the Cylons, and their withdrawal from Colonial space, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships served the Twelve Colonies in a variety of roles. While her surviving sister ships were scrapped or upgraded to match the systems capabilities of newer Colonial vessels, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; continued in service without her systems being fully networked or integrated, making her unique among Colonial military vessels ([[Miniseries]]).  Galactica was relegated to intra-system duties for at least 20 years prior to her decommissioning.&lt;br /&gt;
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With her active career drawing to a close, a decision was taken to retire &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and decommission her from service. [[Colonial Fleet]] chose not to scrap her, but to turn her into a combination of living museum to the original Cylon War and an educational center, with her conversion being overseen by her final commander, [[William Adama]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time of her formal decommissioning ceremony, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is stripped of all but one of her operational [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] Mark VII squadrons, her munitions are destroyed, and her starboard landing pod is a pressurized [[Galactica Museum|museum]] which houses (among other things) a full squadron of [[Viper Mark II|Mk. II Vipers]] as well as a Viper model that appears [[Viper (TOS)|older than the Mark II]] (Miniseries, also in Deleted Scenes).&lt;br /&gt;
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With the renewed and unexpected Cylon hostilities, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; quickly proves her worthiness as a warship is far from over as she sorties several Mark IIs retrieved from her museum to challenge her first Cylon attack in over 40 years (her last Mark VII squadron was sent to Caprica for reassignment). The old battlestar withstands a direct hit from a tactical nuclear missile while unsuccessfully performing evasive maneuvers, but later [[FTL|Jumps]] successfully to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] to retrieve much-needed ammunition stores at this hidden depot.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; finally bares her teeth in this new Cylon war as she single-handedly engages two [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] with her gun batteries, providing covering fire for [[The Fleet (RDM)|an assortment of 75 civilian ships]] containing the last survivors of the Twelve Colonies. All ships, with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; last to leave the engagement zone, escape to a destination past the [[Red Line]], never to return to Colonial space. &lt;br /&gt;
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Since the exodus of the Colonials from their overrun homeworlds, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; becomes both protector and provider for the Fleet. She provides covering fire for the Fleet during Cylon attacks no fewer than 240 times ([[33]], [[Act of Contrition]]). The battlestar provides much of the Fleet with recycled water ([[Water]]) and she is the primary source of medical care, where groups of civilians are periodically brought aboard for check-ups and treatment ([[Litmus]]). &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; also undertakes internal policing duties within the Fleet ([[Water]], [[Bastille Day]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; successfully goes on the offensive against the Cylons, capturing a [[tylium]] fuel mining and processing plant in the process ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Mercury class battlestar|advanced battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, commanded by Admiral [[Helena Cain]], joins &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; approximately 6 months into their exile (See the series [[Timeline (RDM)|timeline]] for special information about this milestone).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; destroy two [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] as well as a critical Cylon support ship known as the [[Resurrection Ship]]. After Admiral Cain&#039;s death, President [[Laura Roslin]] promotes William Adama to Admiral, restoring him to overall Fleet command, but now with two battlestars at his disposal ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===New Caprica===&lt;br /&gt;
Following the founding of [[New Caprica]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is assigned to the Orbital Defense Force that protects the planet. During this time the majority of its crew are sent to the surface in an effort to populate the planet and restore the human race – including most of its senior officers &amp;amp;mdash; seemingly convinced that the Cylons would never find New Caprica. The diminished staff inevitably results in basic maintenance becoming overlooked or ignored. Basic military responses, such as the launching of alert fighers and routine training exercises become difficult to execute. One year following the founding of New Caprica, a fleet of Cylon ships jump into orbit of the planet. Severely limited in its abilities, Admiral Adama and the Defense Fleet jumps away from New Caprica &amp;amp;mdash; vowing that they&#039;d return to liberate the planet ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Battle of New Caprica]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Four months after the escape, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s staff is still in the process of developing a rescue strategy with 16 training exercises having been completed and a 17th underway when an accident causes its early ending ([[Occupation]]). This forces both a change in strategy and the reformulation of a rescue plan to deal with personnel who have not seen conflict in 16 months. While &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; fights to liberate the Colonials on-planet, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is assigned to protect the remaining civilian fleet and continue its search for [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] (&amp;quot;[[Precipice]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Exodus, Part I]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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After coordinating with the [[New Caprica Resistance]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; leaves &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; to guard the last group of humanity while it uses a series of feints to misdirect the bulk of the Cylon Raider units and avoid immediate detection by baseships to allow the civilians on the planet to escape to their ships and escape New Caprica.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the battle, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; becomes overtaxed and out-gunned, nearing destruction until &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; unexpectedly arrives to initiate a barrage of her own to turn the attention of four baseships away from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The old battlestar repairs her [[FTL|FTL drives]] and escapes but &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; is sacrificed during the battle ([[Exodus, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; bears the scars of the Battle of New Caprica, with significant scorching and dents to the hull. &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; remains a dangerous ship, holding off a superior Cylon force for a short duration in the [[Battle_of_NCD2539|Battle of NCD2539]] ([[A Measure of Salvation]]), and threatening to use its nuclear arsenal twice after New Caprica (&amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Crossroads, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Resuming the search for Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; takes aboard a significant quantity of civilians following the exodus from New Caprica, as several civilian ships were lost during the escape and after the &#039;&#039;[[Cloud 9]]&#039;&#039; incident. Cramped conditions increase as crew and civilians struggle to adapt to life back aboard a ship. Civilians reside in the starboard hangar deck as a refugee camp nicknamed &amp;quot;[[Camp Oil Slick]]&amp;quot; and later &amp;quot;Dogsville&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[The Woman King]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During a [[The Passage|food shortage crisis]] caused by contamination of the Fleet&#039;s food processing systems, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, along with her Raptors acting as pilot ships, guide the civilian Fleet through an area of intense heat, light and radiation caused by a [[Passage (star cluster)|dense star cluster]] to reach edible resources on the [[algae planet]]. &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; heavy armor and radiation shielding protect her from the intense effects of the cluster, but the ship still suffers hull damage and decompressions.&lt;br /&gt;
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The ship barely escapes both a Cylon fleet and a supernova shock wave during [[Eye of Jupiter|the events over the algae planet]], jumping out at the last moment after recovering its planet teams and data on a new waypoint to Earth, the [[Ionian nebula]] (&amp;quot;[[Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Rapture]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Equipment ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BSG-KEW-Turret.jpg|thumb|One of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large cannon [[battery|turrets]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; shares the same overall technical specifications as other original Colonial battlestars of [[Galactica type battlestar|her class]], with the following key differences and qualifications:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Available Flight Pods===&lt;br /&gt;
As part of its decommissioning, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; port [[flight pod]] was the only one in service. The starboard flight pod was enclosed and pressurized as the [[Galactica Museum|main museum display]] for her pending decommission. It is violently depressurized after a [[Heavy Raider]] crashes into it ([[Scattered]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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By the time of the exodus from [[New Caprica]], the starboard hangar deck is being used as a temporary [[Camp Oil Slick|housing facility]] for refugees ([[Exodus, Part II]]). The starboard flight pod is apparently brought back to working flight recovery, as Major Lee Adama directs his Raptor boarding team to approach and land in the starboard pod ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nuclear Warheads===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; had five nuclear warheads as of &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]].&amp;quot;  Commander [[William Adama]] uses one warhead to destroy a Cylon [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II]]).  Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] cannibalizes one to use in his [[Cylon Detector]], which he later gives to [[Gina]], who detonates it aboard &#039;&#039;[[Cloud Nine]]&#039;&#039;. This leaves &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with three warheads (It is unknown how many nuclear warheads &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; still had when it encountered &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and they may have pooled their nuclear ordnance stockpiles since then, or more were recovered from any materials that were dumped overboard from Pegasus before her final mission). As of &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;, Galactica has at least seven warheads ([[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] 4 through 10) attached to missiles that can be used for ground assault.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;The yield of these weapons is unknown. It is likely they are of a &amp;quot;dial a yield&amp;quot; design which is common in real-life nuclear weapons.  Because the &amp;quot;physics&amp;quot; of nuclear weapon design is a measureable science, and based on the size of the weapon seen in ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II]]), it is likely the yield of Galactica&#039;s weapons are between 5 and 150kt.  This is extrapolated from the size of the weapon, compared to a modern day ([[w:W80|W80]])-class nuclear warhead used by the United States.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Available spacecraft===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;For information on the fighter squadrons stationed on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; see: [[Squadrons of Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Vipers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mini gal side viper.jpg|right|thumb|A stricken and slowly spinning &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; after a nuclear missile strike. [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck&#039;s]] [[Viper Mark II|Viper]] closes in to survey.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the arrival of &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has at maximum thirty-four Vipers, of which at least six are Mark VIIs (c.f. [[Viper tally]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; receives additional supplies from &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; since her arrival that helps in repair and refurbishment of her original fighter complement; more recently, she receives new Mark VII Vipers built aboard &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; using raw materials mined from an asteroid and the advanced battlestar&#039;s Viper construction facilities ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus,]] [[Scar]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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====Raptors====&lt;br /&gt;
The number of [[Raptor|Raptors]] available to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is portrayed inconsistently. The current assumption is that the battlestar has at least five Raptors, having left [[Ragnar Anchorage]] with at least eight (c.f. [[Raptor tally]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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====Other Craft====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; currently posesses two [[Heavy Raider|Heavy Raiders]]. One is hit by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; defensive fire and crashes into the starboard flight pod with unknown damage ([[Scattered]]). The other returns in operational status from Caprica ([[Home, Part I]]). One of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s [[Heavy Raider]]s is relieved of its FTL navigation system for use on the rescue mission to [[Caprica]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*A second [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raider]] is in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; possession after [[Daniel Novacek]]&#039;s &amp;quot;escape&amp;quot; from a basestar ([[Hero]]), replacing the one retrieved by [[Kara Thrace]] and lost during the quest for the [[Arrow of Apollo]] ([[Scattered]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*An experimental stealth fighter, the [[Blackbird]], is constructed using spare parts ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]) and used in a critically successful reconnaissance mission to explore the nature of what comes to be known as the [[Resurrection Ship]]. The Blackbird is later destroyed after completing her last mission during the [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; possesses fuel tankers used to supply fuel to Vipers and Raptors in flight without the need to dock with the ship. These may be dedicated craft or specially fitted shuttles or Raptors ([[Occupation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crew ==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For information on Senior Staff, see : [[Senior Staff of Galactica]]&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For a list of pilots, see: [[List of Pilots]]&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For a list of deckhands, see: [[List of deckhands]]&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For a list of marines, see: [[Colonial Marine Corps]]&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Before the attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has approximately 2,800 crewmen, while awaiting its decommissioning. By the time of the arrival of &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, attrition has reduced this number to about 2,660. (c.f. [[Crew tally]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Between &amp;quot;[[Act of Contrition]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; offensive capability is also greatly hampered by the number of [[List of Pilots|qualified pilots]] available, and their lack of flight simulators with which to train more. Since  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; reunion with &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, this has ceased to be an issue ([[Scar]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Jake (New Caprica)</title>
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Jake&#039;&#039;&#039; is a dog on [[New Caprica]] that has a yellow bowl.  The bowl serves as an indicator flag for a dead drop.  When this bowl is flipped over, the [[Felix Gaeta|inside source]] within the Baltar administration notifies the [[New Caprica Resistance]] of important information to be used to aid the group ([[Occupation]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Jake is also known to a copy of [[Number Three]], who is pleased with the fact that Jake doesn&#039;t care who is human and who is [[Cylon]] ([[Exodus, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Felix Gaeta</title>
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		<updated>2006-11-17T07:41:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Madcat: /* Remarkable Brillance */&lt;/p&gt;
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Lieutenant &#039;&#039;&#039;Felix Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039; ({{IPA|&amp;amp;#x02C8;ge&amp;amp;#x026A;.ɾ&amp;amp;#x0259;}} or &amp;quot;gay-tah&amp;quot;) is a young, capable officer in the Colonial military. For the three years prior to the [[Cylon attack]] on the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]], he has served as [[William Adama]]&#039;s Senior Officer of the Watch aboard battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the attack, he was studying biogenetics and planned to get a degree through the military extension program ([[Water]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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He exhibits a strong attention to detail and is highly efficient. These tendencies and his overall ability have led William Adama to rely heavily on him as a member of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; command crew, despite his relative youth and junior rank.&lt;br /&gt;
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As well as performing the role of Tactical Officer, Gaeta also manages the ship&#039;s [[FTL]] systems, including the calculation and initiation of jumps. Gaeta also manages the needs of the various primary [[Computers|computer systems]] used on the battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remarkable Brillance==&lt;br /&gt;
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As a result of his studies in biogenetics, Lt. Gaeta is selected by Adama to assist Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] in the development of the much-needed [[Cylon detector]] following the Cylon attack ([[Water]]). During his time working with Baltar, Gaeta develops a certain respect and liking for the doctor - despite the latter&#039;s apparent eccentricities. When a woman called &amp;quot;[[Shelly Godfrey]]&amp;quot; arrives on-board &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Gaeta works hard to prove Baltar&#039;s innocence of the charges levelled against him ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]). Although he is ultimately successful, Gaeta fails to follow-up on the fact that the photographic evidence supplied by &amp;quot;Shelly Godfrey&amp;quot; looked as if the evidence itself had been faked in a way that ensured it was exposed as a forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta shows his remarkable brilliance after &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; mistakenly jumps to a different set of coordinates than the rest of [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] to escape a Cylon attack ([[Scattered]]). The [[FTL]] computers compensate for spatial changes, but due to the chaos after [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] is shot by [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]], Gaeta does not have time to synchronize the spatial positioning with the rest of the Fleet, whose FTL computers had collectively different information. Complicating the issue, if &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; returns to their original position, the Cylons would destroy the ship before it could recalculate the correct Fleet coordinates using standard procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta blames himself (although [[Saul Tigh]] did not), but later realizes that by networking four computers of the ship (something Commander Adama may never have approved), he could reduce the coordinate calculation time from hours to minutes. Knowing the Cylons would try to crack his &#039;&#039;ad hoc&#039;&#039; network, Gaeta sets up five [[Wikipedia:Firewall (networking)|firewalls]] in the network to slow their progress while the ship&#039;s guns and Vipers buy the needed time to calculate. Unfortunately for Gaeta, the firewalls are not completely effective. Several power and CIC systems were disabled by a Cylon infection while [[Cylon Centurion]]s board the ship ([[Valley of Darkness]]). Gaeta scrambles to purge the systems of any remaining traces of the [[Virus|virus]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Under Pressure==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta&#039;s calm exterior shows signs of wear when his interview with [[D&#039;anna Biers]] shows him somewhat drunk, smoking, and brandishing a rather garish [[tattoo]] of a tiger ([[Final Cut]]). Viewers learn from the footage that Gaeta&#039;s first name is Felix.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Cylon virus rears its ugly head once more a few weeks later when shipboard malfunctions increase to a point where consoles begin to sputter and short out. Gaeta confirms that the same virus they thought they had removed from the formerly-networked computers had metamorphized into a heuristic program--a [[Logic bomb|logic bomb]]--that studied and probed flaws in the battlestar&#039;s computers and the hardware that each system manages. The logic bomb threatened to disable the ship&#039;s human control on a Cylon fighter&#039;s command--and a Cylon attack force was imminent.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Colonel Tigh&#039;s command to perform the daunting task of inspecting many lines of computer code for a Cylon virus, the young lieutenant completely loses his cool:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: A power surge energized the board. System&#039;s been twitchy ever since the Cylons infiltrated our network.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh&#039;&#039;&#039;: Commander&#039;s right. I don&#039;t care if you have to go through this program line by line; fix it.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: Excuse me?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh&#039;&#039;&#039;: You heard me.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: Sir, I&#039;m running every diagnostic we&#039;ve got. Checking each line of code could take days.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh&#039;&#039;&#039;: I am not interested in excuses. Fix it!&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Gaeta&#039;&#039;&#039;: It&#039;s not an excuse, sir. It&#039;s a [[frak|frakking]] fact!&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Everyone on the bridge, especially Commander Adama, is shocked by Gaeta&#039;s highly uncharacteristic outburst, but Adama is not particularly surprised, knowing that everyone on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has low morale after working for months with no relief or change to their routine.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta has a solution for the logic bomb: Wipe all computer hard drives and restore them from backups made before the Cylon attack. The problem in doing this is that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; will be completely vulnerable to attack, save for her Viper fighters, for several minutes as her computers are rebuilt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Against his instincts and on [[Laura Roslin]]&#039;s advice, Adama opts to use the unique abilities of the cooperative [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Caprica copy of Sharon Valerii]] to aid them. Gaeta gives the humanoid Cylon a fiber-optic data link with access to the battlestar mainframe computer and the ship&#039;s communications. After a few tense moments, Valerii asks Gaeta to perform the computer hard drive wipe after taking into her computer/brain a copy of the Cylon virus. She manipulates it and transmits to the massive incoming Cylon fleet, disabling the entire Cylon fleet in the same way that the Colonials suffered in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. The Colonial forces [[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot|destroy the entire Cylon force]] without a single Colonial casualty ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta is among the tense officers and crew in CIC that witness a standoff between their battlestar and the heavily-advanced battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, whose commander, Admiral [[Helena Cain]], has opted to execute two &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; crew members after she tried them herself and against Adama&#039;s requests for the rights of his crew to have a fair, open trial ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Presidential Election and New Caprica ==&lt;br /&gt;
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During the presidential election, Gaeta is assigned to aid and oversee the ballot counting process on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.  He also aids in thwarting Roslin&#039;s plans to steal the election (though he apparently never knew -- or indicates any knowledge of -- who exactly is behind it, other than Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]) by discovering the illegitimate ballots from the &#039;&#039;[[Zephyr]]&#039;&#039;.  The only reason he realizes that the &#039;&#039;Zephyr&#039;&#039;&#039;s ballots were tampered with is due to the fact that the &#039;&#039;Zephyr&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s original, valid ballots had misspelled Gaius Baltar&#039;s name -- the fixed ballots did not share this error. (Gaeta had authorized the go-ahead to use the misspelled ballots due to the lack of time to print new ones prior to the opening of the polls.) &lt;br /&gt;
Due to this happenstance discovery, Baltar, who had been rightfully voted as President-Elect, was sworn in as president and ordered the Fleet to colonize [[New Caprica]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A year later on [[New Caprica]], Gaeta seems to be an adviser to President [[Gaius Baltar]].  His previous post on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is assumed by [[Karl Agathon]]. While Gaeta is pleased that there had been no Cylon attacks during Baltar&#039;s presidency, he disapproves of Baltar&#039;s womanizing and is secretly infuriated at Baltar&#039;s devil-may-care attitude towards the New Caprica City Worker&#039;s Union and the Quorum of Twelve. Gaeta later brings news of the Cylon invasion to the president and is present when Baltar surrenders New Caprica to [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Number Five]]. ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaeta is also the [[New Caprica Resistance]] inside source into the inner workings of the Cylons. He seems to favor an assassination of President Baltar as he provides the group with information that he is going to attend the [[New Caprica Police]] force graduation, which is disrupted by [[Duck]]&#039;s suicide bombing. However, upon learning that Baltar would not attend, he rushes to contact the group to warn them Baltar that is not going to be there. ([[Occupation]])&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inside Man ==&lt;br /&gt;
Being the &amp;quot;inside man&amp;quot; allows him to help the [[New Caprica Resistance]] understand the inner Cylon related activities and security procedures on [[New Caprica]]. For him to contact the group, he flips [[Jake (New Caprica)|Jake]]&#039;s yellow bowl upside down and leaves a note or information packet in a nearby tool bin for the [[New Caprica Resistance|resistance]] to find. [[Galen Tyrol]] does not know that he is the &amp;quot;inside man&amp;quot; and when they talk, Tyrol accuses of him being a collaborator. ([[Precipice]])&lt;br /&gt;
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== End of the Baltar Administration ==&lt;br /&gt;
As the Cylons are preparing to evacuate during the [[Battle of New Caprica]], Gaeta pulls a gun on a distraught President Baltar, clearly intending to kill him. [[Caprica-Six]] attempts to dissuade Gaeta from this course of action. In contrast to his companion&#039;s feelings, Baltar seems fully willing to die; but he tells Gaeta that he is the only one who could stop a [[Number Three]]-model Cylon from detonating a nuclear weapon hidden somewhere in the city of New Caprica. This convinces the reluctant Gaeta to let Baltar go, giving the disgraced leader a chance to redeem himself ([[Exodus, Part II]]). Gaeta is presumably on Colonial One when it leaves the planet and is in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s hangar during the post-battle celebration.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Return to Duty ==&lt;br /&gt;
Gaeta is initially isolated from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s crew and those who were on New Caprica. Because of his high position in the collaborationist government, they believe he carried out the will of the Cylons. When he arrives in CIC to help with repairs on the communication systems damaged during the recent battle, former resistance leader Colonel Tigh is openly hostile towards him. Gaeta attempts to defend his actions in a tense conversation with [[Kara Thrace]] by revealing himself as Tyrol&#039;s mysterious informant. Starbuck doesn&#039;t know about the informant, since she was a captive of [[Leoben Conoy]] during the four-month Cylon occupation. She mocks her crewmate and dismisses his revelation as a poorly fabricated lie. &lt;br /&gt;
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When Gaeta&#039;s name comes up for review in the [[The Circle]], he is convicted of collaborating with the enemy and sentenced to death, despite the lack of evidence against him. The six-person tribunal takes him to a Viper [[launch tubes|launch tube]] to face his sentence. When asked to defend himself, Gaeta says that he already had and refuses to beg for his life. This infuriates [[Kara Thrace]], who lashes out at him in a physical attack and resumes the mocking she started in the mess hall. Upon hearing Thrace repeat information about the [[Jake (New Caprica)|dog bowl]], Galen Tyrol realizes that Gaeta was indeed the informant from inside the Baltar administration. Gaeta is released and allowed to go. He resumes his duties as a lieutenant, still shunned by most of his crewmates except Tyrol ([[Collaborators]]). After his recommissioning, he takes over Baltar&#039;s scientific duties, concentrating on deciphering his notes and determining the course to Earth ([[Torn]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*While Gaeta is described as the &amp;quot;Tactical Officer&amp;quot;, his role is closer to that of the US Navy&#039;s CIC Watch Officer (CICWO), combining it with elements of the Tactical Watch Officer (TAO), a role also partially fulfilled by [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]], both under the command of [[William Adama]]. According to the official SciFi.com character data file, Gaeta&#039;s title is &amp;quot;Senior Officer of the Watch&amp;quot;, although the title of Tactical Officer may have a better &amp;quot;ring&amp;quot; to the ears of most viewers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The name &amp;quot;Felix&amp;quot; means &amp;quot;Happy&amp;quot; in Latin; the connotations of the Latin word imply being fortunate, lucky, prosperous, or &amp;quot;favored by the gods&amp;quot;.  It first appeared in the episode &#039;&#039;[[Final Cut]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Gaeta|Gaeta]] is the name of a small seaport and resort in southern Italy. This goes well with his Latin first name.&lt;br /&gt;
*His counterpart in the original &amp;quot;Battlestar Galactica&amp;quot; is Sgt. [[Omega]], a [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Sagittaron|Sagittaron]] native.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the [[Miniseries]], Gaeta&#039;s name is usually pronounced &amp;quot;Guy-tah&amp;quot; {{IPA|ˈgaɪ.ɾə}}.  However, in all subsequent installments of the regular series, everyone pronounces it as &amp;quot;Gay-tah&amp;quot; {{IPA|ˈgeɪ.ɾə}}; however, Col. [[Saul Tigh]] seems to vacillate between {{IPA|ˈgeɪ.ɾə}} and {{IPA|ˈgaɪ.ɾə}}.&lt;br /&gt;
*There is speculation among fans that Gaeta is another [[Cylon agent speculation|Cylon infiltrator]].&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Anastasia Dualla</title>
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Anastasia Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039; {{IPA|du.&amp;amp;#x02C8;&amp;amp;#x0251;.l&amp;amp;#x0259;}} is the Communications Officer of [[battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; and wife of Major [[Lee Adama]]. Both her marriage to Lee and her promotion from Petty Officer 2nd Class to Lieutenant occurred during the year which the fleet spent in orbit above [[New Caprica]].  Dualla manages the main communications board in [[CIC]], and works closely with [[William Adama|Adama]], [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]], and [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] in serving as  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; eyes and ears to her fighters and [[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]]. Her responsibilities include:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Monitoring fleet-wide [[Wireless|communications]], including all of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; incoming and out-going communications&lt;br /&gt;
* Ensuring shipboard communications are properly logged ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]])&lt;br /&gt;
* Relaying communications to all of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]] during off-ship missions&lt;br /&gt;
* Managing other minor CIC operations in Lt. Gaeta&#039;s absence.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Biography  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Dualla&#039;s father thought that her enlistment in the [[Colonial Fleet|Colonial Fleet Reserve]] was crazy, and he viewed the military as a joke.  She signed up anyway because she &amp;quot;wanted to believe in something.&amp;quot;  This rift with her father would continue throughout her service and the last time they spoke they got in a heated argument; three weeks later the Cylons attacked, and Dualla never got a chance to reconcile with him ([[Final Cut]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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At the time of the [[Cylon attack]] she monitors fleet-wide communications. Dualla is among the first to notice the unusually high levels of shipboard malfunctions and failures aboard other battlestars ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Cylon attack, she coordinates Fleet activities like [[FTL|jumps]] with Tactical Officer [[Felix Gaeta]]. In this responsibility, she discovers that the &#039;&#039;[[Olympic Carrier]]&#039;&#039; fails to jump with the fleet after yet another jump to escape a 5-day long, relentless attack by the Cylons after their escape from [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[33]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Due to his attraction to Dualla, presidential aide [[Billy Keikeya]] &amp;quot;volunteers&amp;quot; her to join an off-ship mission to the &#039;&#039;[[Astral Queen]]&#039;&#039; ([[Bastille Day]]). Led by Captain [[Lee Adama]], the mission is to attempt enlistment of prisoners aboard the &#039;&#039;Queen&#039;&#039; in resupplying  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with water following an act of sabotage ([[Water]]). During the mission, the team is taken hostage by prisoners during a jail break lead by fellow Sagittaron and political agitator [[Tom Zarek]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Dee and bee.jpg|thumb|left|&#039;&#039;&#039;Dualla&#039;&#039;&#039; and [[Billy Keikeya]] in the [[observation deck]] on a date ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
Freed without personal harm during this situation, Dualla returns Billy Keikeya&#039;s affections, and they date during off-duty periods ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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When a party of [[Cylon Centurion|Cylons]] boards the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, Dualla suffers a concussion, but survives the engagement ([[Valley of Darkness]]). Later, Dualla aids in [[Laura Roslin]]&#039;s escape from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; after the President&#039;s arrest by covering up the tracks of their secret communications coordinating their movements in the Fleet, and getting Colonel Tigh to sign permission to close off a causeway which they use as an escape route. At this time, Dualla seems to take a greater personal interest in [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Dualla is assigned to give [[D&#039;anna Biers]] a tour around the battlestar as part of Biers&#039; documentary of the ship ([[Final Cut]]). Lee Adama seems to return Dualla&#039;s personal attraction during a sparring exercise with the petty officer ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Dualla&#039;s [[avionics]] training helps in building a stable communications package for the experimental [[Blackbird]] fighter ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Keikeya, apparently attempting to solidify his relationship with the petty officer, proposes to Dualla, but she refuses. Keikeya later sees Dualla with Lee Adama on &#039;&#039;[[Cloud 9]]&#039;&#039; and accuses her of leading him on.  Shortly after Keikeya&#039;s accusation, four terrorists commandeer the lounge and its occupants and demand the surrender of [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Sharon Valerii]]. When a ruse by Admiral [[William Adama]] is discovered, the [[Sesha Abinell|leader]] of the the terrorists orders Dualla&#039;s death. Keikeya intervenes and manages to shoot one of the terrorists, but his target fatally wounds Keikeya before dying. In the same battle, Lee Adama is left severely wounded from a friendly-fire incident during an ill-fated reconnaisance by [[Kara Thrace]]. Dualla promises to watch over Lee Adama until he recovers in [[sickbay]]. When he finally regained consciousness, Dualla was so happy that neither of them noticed Thrace leaving the sickbay with a heartbroken expression ([[Sacrifice]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Dee LDYBPII2.JPG|thumb|Dualla as executive officer of battlestar Pegasus ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
A few months later, still involved with Apollo, Dualla assists in the counting of ballots for the Presidential election. Dualla conspires with [[Tory Foster]] and [[Saul Tigh]] to rig the election in Roslin&#039;s favor, indicating that she comprehends the disaster that would follow if [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] is elected. Though the plot initially succeeds, Lt. Gaeta&#039;s curiosity leads to Admiral Adama&#039;s discovery of the duplicity. Adama covers up the plot but returns the vote, for better or worse, to its actual result, with Baltar being elected to the Presidency.&lt;br /&gt;
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A year later, Dualla serves as Communications and Executive Officer on &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, part of its skeletal crew in orbit around [[New Caprica]]. Dualla and Lee Adama&#039;s relationship appears ongoing, given the look she gives young Adama when Kara Thrace calls in one day. It is revealed in the season three opener that Dualla is married to Lee Adama ([[Occupation]]). Dualla&#039;s keen eyes pick up [[DRADIS]] contacts, which gave the Fleet advance warning to the arrival of a large Cylon fleet. The remnants of the Fleet escape, hoping to return to liberate New Caprica another day ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Dualla&#039;s counterpart in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]] is [[Rigel]]. According to [[Ron Moore]]&#039;s [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/blogs/ blog entry] on April 18, 2006, Dualla is actually more or less directly inspired by Rigel, saying Dualla is &amp;quot;filling the role of another woman in the original BSG series who used to man the communication system on their bridge. That character was called &amp;quot;Rigel&amp;quot; but I didn&#039;t think that name worked in the remake, so I gave her the name of Dualla.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Dualla was known throughout all of the first season and part of of the second season only as &amp;quot;Dualla&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Dee&amp;quot;. Her first name was finally revealed in the episode, &amp;quot;[[Final Cut]]&amp;quot; in an on screen caption during her documentary interview; her first name has yet to be spoken aloud.  &amp;quot;Anastasia&amp;quot; means &amp;quot;resurrection&amp;quot; in Greek.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grace Park]] initially auditioned for the role of Dualla, before being asked to audition for the role of [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], and finally being cast as [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]].&lt;br /&gt;
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