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Talk:Soundtrack (Season 3)/Archive 1

2007-10-28T13:27:29Z

Lork:

Somebody forgot to renew the domain name... http://www.lalalandrecords.com/ eek --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 06:59, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:The site is up again :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:37, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::Good stuff, must have been down a few days tho. Renewall date was the 11th. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:01, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I think it was up at least 2 days ago. I keep checking the site to see if they have put up the BSG soundtrack. In case anyone doesn't know yet: If you pre-order the CD there, you get an autographed copy. At least that was the case with the first two seasons. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:09, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::My season 2 CD is autographed from the site --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:13, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::::LLL told us (signature) pre-orders won't be available until early October. I'll try to get one again. :) -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 15:26, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::::Thats not too long away, we are half way into september now. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 15:33, 18 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm interested in buying it. Is the theme from Adama's atmo hyperjump when invading New Caprica available? It's pretty much the only reason why I would get this soundtrack. {{unsigned|Lork}}
:Its highly likely, its an important piece of music in the show much like how i felt when I first heard [[Soundtrack (Season 2)#Track_Listing|''Pegasus (2:46)'']] in the episode where we first see [[Pegasus (RDM)|it]]. I think its going to be part of ''Storming New Caprica (7:48)'' but my copy should be either waiting for me when I get home or come tomorrow so i'll let you know then. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:37, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:I got my copy of it yesterday at Best Buy and yes, the Adama manuver music is part of track 4, "Storming New Caprica". Another highlight near the very end of the track is the music playing as Pegasus rams into the basestar. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:11, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:The soundtrack really has a lot of other great stuff besides that track and the way, way overrated "All Along the Watchtower". "Admiral and Commander" (the Adama goodbye from "Exodus, Part I) for example has a nice guitar part in the middle that's not on TV. "A Distant Sadness" (opening of "Occupation"), "Refugees Return", "Violence and Variations", "Adama Falls", "Battlestar Sonatica", "Kat's Sacrifice", "Temple of Five" and "Gentle Execution" are top tracks too. There isn't really a weak piece on the album. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
::I love "Admiral and Commander", that's my favorite track on the cd, especially since it incorporates my favorite melody, all the way back to "A Good Lighter" in the Season One OST. "Adama Falls" and "The Dance" from Unfinished Business were good too. It seems with each successive album, I enjoy more and more of it. I listened to it again during my hour long commute to college, I'll be listening to it on the way back too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:54, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks for the swift replies! I just had a chatter with a friend of mine over icq and recently, he let me listened to that Storming Caprica music over teamspeak2. Hmm... First off, that track does indeed have the theme, but the end of it sort of "branches" off. It's not like the scene when the galactica emerges from hyperspace/from the hyperjump. Using audacity, I recorded it and compared it with the clip at youtube - They differ from each other :( I asked my buddy to check further, but just by skimming that track, he said there were none of the themes alike the youtube clip! :( Following the icq chat, he said around and between 2:09 and 2:28 is where the different theme is heard. Not going to stop me from getting the soundtrack, but I'm a bit disappointed that it sounds different... or is this theme heard in previous soundtracks?! Not sure if it is allowed to post youtube links. [[User:Lork|Lork]] 10:42, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
::Nothing new there. That happened earlier as well with some tracks. They don't simply take the music from TV and put them on CD. Some things are re-recorded, or sometimes they were cut down for TV in the first place, thus making the CD version the original one. Usually that's for the better; for example the full version of "Black Market" or the addition to "Admiral and Commander". The only time I was really annoyed was the added guitars to "Lords of Kobol" because they change the whole tempo and feel of the track. "Storming New Caprica" is really similar enough that I don't care.
::The fanfare at the jump is really the Starbuck theme which appears a lot in the series. Sometimes it's also used for triumphant moments in general. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:46, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:Darn, better or not, wish I could have it ;p. Yeah I heard that fanfare theme a few times in such victorious scenes. Nonetheless, does the theme I'm referring to exist in previous soundtracks then - since it's more or less Starbuck's theme? {{unsigned|Lork}}
::It exists as leitmotif in variations, played with different instruments. Most notably in "Starbuck on the Red Moon" where it originated, "Forgiven" and "Flesh and Bone". It also make a small appearance in "Prelude for War". --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:07, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks :) [[User:Lork|Lork]] 08:27, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

==Press release==
Theres a few of them now on the site and they take up a lot of room. I was wonderinf if perhaps we should create a template so that they are more easily distinguised from text written by us? Here is an example of what it might look like.

{| class="messagebox" style="width:100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" align="center"
|- class="infoboxheader"
! PRESS RELEASE XX OCTOBER 2007
|-
|FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: SEASON THREE SOUNDTRACK TO BE RELEASED BY LA-LA LAND RECORDS ON OCTOBER 23RD

Soundtrack includes a new interpretation of the classic "All Along The Watchtower"

(October 8, 2007- [[w:Burbank|Burbank, CA]]) - The soundtrack from the standout [[Season 3 (2006-07)|third season]] of the [[SciFi Channel]]'s critically acclaimed television series, ''[[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar Galactica]]'', will be released by [[La-La Land Records]] on October 23, 2007. Composer [[Bear McCreary]], who scored the [[Season 1 (2004-05)|first]] and [[season 2 (2005-06)|second]] seasons of the show, composed the score for the third season as well. In addition to McCreary's score, the album also features McCreary's new interpretation of the classic [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]] song, "[[w:All Along the Watchtower|All Along the Watchtower]]," whose themes featured prominently in [[Crossroads, Part I|several]] [[Crossroads, Part II|episodes]] and in McCreary's score.

Considered one of the top 10 shows currently on TV by ''[[w:Time Magazine|Time Magazine]]'', ''[[w:Entertainment Weekly|Entertainment Weekly]]'', and ''[[w:TV Guide|TV Guide]]'', ''Battlestar Galactica'' also won the prestigious [[Awards and Honors#Peabody Award|Peabody Award]] in 2005.

The television series stars [[Edward James Olmos]], [[Mary McDonnell]], [[James Callis]], [[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Katee Sackhoff]]. The third season began by launching the characters' lives a year ahead of the second season finale. As it the action unfolded, viewers discovered how each of the backstories evolved over the past year. All the while, more light was shed on the inner workings of the mysterious [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]].

Towards the end of the season, a [[The Music|familiar musical theme]] was heard. By the final episodes it all became evident, these melodies were part of what would be a total re-imagination of the 1967 Bob Dylan classic "All Along the Watchtower," performed by [[BT4]] and featuring former [[w:Oingo Boingo|Oingo Boingo]] musicians [[w:John Avila|John Avila]] on bass and [[Steve Bartek]] on guitar.

"It was a daring idea by [[Ron Moore]], and at first I thought he was crazy," confessed McCreary. "It's a classic song that was completely redefined by [[w:Jimi Hendrix|Jimi Hendrix]]. But, Ron told me to make it my own and gave me total creative freedom to re-invent this song for ''Battlestar Galactica''. And when the episode came together, I knew it was the right choice."

The song's lyrics, including "There must be some way out of here / Said the joker to the thief / There's too much confusion / I can't get no relief," perfectly reflect what the human race is going through in their battle with the Cylons through the series. Both the song and the show raise questions about the very nature of humanity and our struggle to survive against what holds us captive.

In addition to the new performance of the song, the soundtrack album features the original score that McCreary wrote for the season. "The show is evolving," describes McCreary. "And the music is evolving as well. It is head and shoulders above anything that I've done before."

Bear McCreary's feature film credits include ''[[w:Wrong Turn 2|Wrong Turn 2]]'' and ''[[w:Rest Stop|Rest Stop]]''. He also scores the hit series ''[[ew:Eureka|Eureka]]'' for Sci Fi Channel and the upcoming ''[[w:Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles|Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' for [[w:Fox Network|Fox]]. McCreary was among a handful of select protégés of late film music legend [[w:Elmer Bernstein|Elmer Bernstein]] ([[w:The Magnificent Seven|THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN]]) and is a classically trained composer with degrees in Composition and Recording Arts from the prestigious [[w:University of South Carolina|USC Thornton School of Music]].

[[Razor|Battlestar Galactica: Razor]] will be released [[Razor (Region 1 DVD)|on DVD]] December 4. The [[Season 4 (2008)|fourth season]] premieres on January 11, 2008 on the Sci Fi Channel. The ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Three'' soundtrack will be available in stores or from [http://www.lalalandrecords.com www.lalalandrecords.com] on October 23, 2007. The soundtrack from the ''Battlestar Galactica'' [[Miniseries|mini-series]], the Season One and Season Two soundtracks, and ''Wrong Turn 2'' are also available from La-La Land Records.
|}
Thoughts? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:49, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

:Yeah, that would be a good idea. The press releases don't really add much useful information to the articles anyways IMO. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Soundtrack (Season 3)/Archive 1

2007-10-25T13:01:36Z

Lork:

Somebody forgot to renew the domain name... http://www.lalalandrecords.com/ eek --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 06:59, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:The site is up again :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:37, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::Good stuff, must have been down a few days tho. Renewall date was the 11th. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:01, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I think it was up at least 2 days ago. I keep checking the site to see if they have put up the BSG soundtrack. In case anyone doesn't know yet: If you pre-order the CD there, you get an autographed copy. At least that was the case with the first two seasons. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:09, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::My season 2 CD is autographed from the site --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:13, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::::LLL told us (signature) pre-orders won't be available until early October. I'll try to get one again. :) -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 15:26, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::::Thats not too long away, we are half way into september now. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 15:33, 18 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm interested in buying it. Is the theme from Adama's atmo hyperjump when invading New Caprica available? It's pretty much the only reason why I would get this soundtrack. {{unsigned|Lork}}
:Its highly likely, its an important piece of music in the show much like how i felt when I first heard [[Soundtrack (Season 2)#Track_Listing|''Pegasus (2:46)'']] in the episode where we first see [[Pegasus (RDM)|it]]. I think its going to be part of ''Storming New Caprica (7:48)'' but my copy should be either waiting for me when I get home or come tomorrow so i'll let you know then. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:37, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:I got my copy of it yesterday at Best Buy and yes, the Adama manuver music is part of track 4, "Storming New Caprica". Another highlight near the very end of the track is the music playing as Pegasus rams into the basestar. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:11, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:The soundtrack really has a lot of other great stuff besides that track and the way, way overrated "All Along the Watchtower". "Admiral and Commander" (the Adama goodbye from "Exodus, Part I) for example has a nice guitar part in the middle that's not on TV. "A Distant Sadness" (opening of "Occupation"), "Refugees Return", "Violence and Variations", "Adama Falls", "Battlestar Sonatica", "Kat's Sacrifice", "Temple of Five" and "Gentle Execution" are top tracks too. There isn't really a weak piece on the album. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
::I love "Admiral and Commander", that's my favorite track on the cd, especially since it incorporates my favorite melody, all the way back to "A Good Lighter" in the Season One OST. "Adama Falls" and "The Dance" from Unfinished Business were good too. It seems with each successive album, I enjoy more and more of it. I listened to it again during my hour long commute to college, I'll be listening to it on the way back too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:54, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks for the swift replies! I just had a chatter with a friend of mine over icq and recently, he let me listened to that Storming Caprica music over teamspeak2. Hmm... First off, that track does indeed have the theme, but the end of it sort of "branches" off. It's not like the scene when the galactica emerges from hyperspace/from the hyperjump. Using audacity, I recorded it and compared it with the clip at youtube - They differ from each other :( I asked my buddy to check further, but just by skimming that track, he said there were none of the themes alike the youtube clip! :( Following the icq chat, he said around and between 2:09 and 2:28 is where the different theme is heard. Not going to stop me from getting the soundtrack, but I'm a bit disappointed that it sounds different... or is this theme heard in previous soundtracks?! Not sure if it is allowed to post youtube links. [[User:Lork|Lork]] 10:42, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
::Nothing new there. That happened earlier as well with some tracks. They don't simply take the music from TV and put them on CD. Some things are re-recorded, or sometimes they were cut down for TV in the first place, thus making the CD version the original one. Usually that's for the better; for example the full version of "Black Market" or the addition to "Admiral and Commander". The only time I was really annoyed was the added guitars to "Lords of Kobol" because they change the whole tempo and feel of the track. "Storming New Caprica" is really similar enough that I don't care.
::The fanfare at the jump is really the Starbuck theme which appears a lot in the series. Sometimes it's also used for triumphant moments in general. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:46, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:Darn, better or not, wish I could have it ;p. Yeah I heard that fanfare theme a few times in such victorious scenes. Nonetheless, does the theme I'm referring to exist in previous soundtracks then - since it's more or less Starbuck's theme?

==Press release==
Theres a few of them now on the site and they take up a lot of room. I was wonderinf if perhaps we should create a template so that they are more easily distinguised from text written by us? Here is an example of what it might look like.

{| class="messagebox" style="width:100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" align="center"
|- class="infoboxheader"
! PRESS RELEASE XX OCTOBER 2007
|-
|FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: SEASON THREE SOUNDTRACK TO BE RELEASED BY LA-LA LAND RECORDS ON OCTOBER 23RD

Soundtrack includes a new interpretation of the classic "All Along The Watchtower"

(October 8, 2007- [[w:Burbank|Burbank, CA]]) - The soundtrack from the standout [[Season 3 (2006-07)|third season]] of the [[SciFi Channel]]'s critically acclaimed television series, ''[[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar Galactica]]'', will be released by [[La-La Land Records]] on October 23, 2007. Composer [[Bear McCreary]], who scored the [[Season 1 (2004-05)|first]] and [[season 2 (2005-06)|second]] seasons of the show, composed the score for the third season as well. In addition to McCreary's score, the album also features McCreary's new interpretation of the classic [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]] song, "[[w:All Along the Watchtower|All Along the Watchtower]]," whose themes featured prominently in [[Crossroads, Part I|several]] [[Crossroads, Part II|episodes]] and in McCreary's score.

Considered one of the top 10 shows currently on TV by ''[[w:Time Magazine|Time Magazine]]'', ''[[w:Entertainment Weekly|Entertainment Weekly]]'', and ''[[w:TV Guide|TV Guide]]'', ''Battlestar Galactica'' also won the prestigious [[Awards and Honors#Peabody Award|Peabody Award]] in 2005.

The television series stars [[Edward James Olmos]], [[Mary McDonnell]], [[James Callis]], [[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Katee Sackhoff]]. The third season began by launching the characters' lives a year ahead of the second season finale. As it the action unfolded, viewers discovered how each of the backstories evolved over the past year. All the while, more light was shed on the inner workings of the mysterious [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]].

Towards the end of the season, a [[The Music|familiar musical theme]] was heard. By the final episodes it all became evident, these melodies were part of what would be a total re-imagination of the 1967 Bob Dylan classic "All Along the Watchtower," performed by [[BT4]] and featuring former [[w:Oingo Boingo|Oingo Boingo]] musicians [[w:John Avila|John Avila]] on bass and [[Steve Bartek]] on guitar.

"It was a daring idea by [[Ron Moore]], and at first I thought he was crazy," confessed McCreary. "It's a classic song that was completely redefined by [[w:Jimi Hendrix|Jimi Hendrix]]. But, Ron told me to make it my own and gave me total creative freedom to re-invent this song for ''Battlestar Galactica''. And when the episode came together, I knew it was the right choice."

The song's lyrics, including "There must be some way out of here / Said the joker to the thief / There's too much confusion / I can't get no relief," perfectly reflect what the human race is going through in their battle with the Cylons through the series. Both the song and the show raise questions about the very nature of humanity and our struggle to survive against what holds us captive.

In addition to the new performance of the song, the soundtrack album features the original score that McCreary wrote for the season. "The show is evolving," describes McCreary. "And the music is evolving as well. It is head and shoulders above anything that I've done before."

Bear McCreary's feature film credits include ''[[w:Wrong Turn 2|Wrong Turn 2]]'' and ''[[w:Rest Stop|Rest Stop]]''. He also scores the hit series ''[[ew:Eureka|Eureka]]'' for Sci Fi Channel and the upcoming ''[[w:Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles|Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' for [[w:Fox Network|Fox]]. McCreary was among a handful of select protégés of late film music legend [[w:Elmer Bernstein|Elmer Bernstein]] ([[w:The Magnificent Seven|THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN]]) and is a classically trained composer with degrees in Composition and Recording Arts from the prestigious [[w:University of South Carolina|USC Thornton School of Music]].

[[Razor|Battlestar Galactica: Razor]] will be released [[Razor (Region 1 DVD)|on DVD]] December 4. The [[Season 4 (2008)|fourth season]] premieres on January 11, 2008 on the Sci Fi Channel. The ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Three'' soundtrack will be available in stores or from [http://www.lalalandrecords.com www.lalalandrecords.com] on October 23, 2007. The soundtrack from the ''Battlestar Galactica'' [[Miniseries|mini-series]], the Season One and Season Two soundtracks, and ''Wrong Turn 2'' are also available from La-La Land Records.
|}
Thoughts? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:49, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

:Yeah, that would be a good idea. The press releases don't really add much useful information to the articles anyways IMO. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Soundtrack (Season 3)/Archive 1

2007-10-24T15:42:51Z

Lork:

Somebody forgot to renew the domain name... http://www.lalalandrecords.com/ eek --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 06:59, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:The site is up again :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:37, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::Good stuff, must have been down a few days tho. Renewall date was the 11th. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:01, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I think it was up at least 2 days ago. I keep checking the site to see if they have put up the BSG soundtrack. In case anyone doesn't know yet: If you pre-order the CD there, you get an autographed copy. At least that was the case with the first two seasons. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:09, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::My season 2 CD is autographed from the site --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:13, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::::LLL told us (signature) pre-orders won't be available until early October. I'll try to get one again. :) -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 15:26, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::::Thats not too long away, we are half way into september now. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 15:33, 18 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm interested in buying it. Is the theme from Adama's atmo hyperjump when invading New Caprica available? It's pretty much the only reason why I would get this soundtrack. {{unsigned|Lork}}
:Its highly likely, its an important piece of music in the show much like how i felt when I first heard [[Soundtrack (Season 2)#Track_Listing|''Pegasus (2:46)'']] in the episode where we first see [[Pegasus (RDM)|it]]. I think its going to be part of ''Storming New Caprica (7:48)'' but my copy should be either waiting for me when I get home or come tomorrow so i'll let you know then. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:37, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:I got my copy of it yesterday at Best Buy and yes, the Adama manuver music is part of track 4, "Storming New Caprica". Another highlight near the very end of the track is the music playing as Pegasus rams into the basestar. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:11, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:The soundtrack really has a lot of other great stuff besides that track and the way, way overrated "All Along the Watchtower". "Admiral and Commander" (the Adama goodbye from "Exodus, Part I) for example has a nice guitar part in the middle that's not on TV. "A Distant Sadness" (opening of "Occupation"), "Refugees Return", "Violence and Variations", "Adama Falls", "Battlestar Sonatica", "Kat's Sacrifice", "Temple of Five" and "Gentle Execution" are top tracks too. There isn't really a weak piece on the album. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
::I love "Admiral and Commander", that's my favorite track on the cd, especially since it incorporates my favorite melody, all the way back to "A Good Lighter" in the Season One OST. "Adama Falls" and "The Dance" from Unfinished Business were good too. It seems with each successive album, I enjoy more and more of it. I listened to it again during my hour long commute to college, I'll be listening to it on the way back too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:54, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks for the swift replies! I just had a chatter with a friend of mine over icq and recently, he let me listened to that Storming Caprica music over teamspeak2. Hmm... First off, that track does indeed have the theme, but the end of it sort of "branches" off. It's not like the scene when the galactica emerges from hyperspace/from the hyperjump. Using audacity, I recorded it and compared it with the clip at youtube - They differ from each other :( I asked my buddy to check further, but just by skimming that track, he said there were none of the themes alike the youtube clip! :( Following the icq chat, he said around and between 2:09 and 2:28 is where the different theme is heard. Not going to stop me from getting the soundtrack, but I'm a bit disappointed that it sounds different... or is this theme heard in previous soundtracks?! Not sure if it is allowed to post youtube links. [[User:Lork|Lork]] 10:42, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

==Press release==
Theres a few of them now on the site and they take up a lot of room. I was wonderinf if perhaps we should create a template so that they are more easily distinguised from text written by us? Here is an example of what it might look like.

{| class="messagebox" style="width:100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" align="center"
|- class="infoboxheader"
! PRESS RELEASE XX OCTOBER 2007
|-
|FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: SEASON THREE SOUNDTRACK TO BE RELEASED BY LA-LA LAND RECORDS ON OCTOBER 23RD

Soundtrack includes a new interpretation of the classic "All Along The Watchtower"

(October 8, 2007- [[w:Burbank|Burbank, CA]]) - The soundtrack from the standout [[Season 3 (2006-07)|third season]] of the [[SciFi Channel]]'s critically acclaimed television series, ''[[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar Galactica]]'', will be released by [[La-La Land Records]] on October 23, 2007. Composer [[Bear McCreary]], who scored the [[Season 1 (2004-05)|first]] and [[season 2 (2005-06)|second]] seasons of the show, composed the score for the third season as well. In addition to McCreary's score, the album also features McCreary's new interpretation of the classic [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]] song, "[[w:All Along the Watchtower|All Along the Watchtower]]," whose themes featured prominently in [[Crossroads, Part I|several]] [[Crossroads, Part II|episodes]] and in McCreary's score.

Considered one of the top 10 shows currently on TV by ''[[w:Time Magazine|Time Magazine]]'', ''[[w:Entertainment Weekly|Entertainment Weekly]]'', and ''[[w:TV Guide|TV Guide]]'', ''Battlestar Galactica'' also won the prestigious [[Awards and Honors#Peabody Award|Peabody Award]] in 2005.

The television series stars [[Edward James Olmos]], [[Mary McDonnell]], [[James Callis]], [[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Katee Sackhoff]]. The third season began by launching the characters' lives a year ahead of the second season finale. As it the action unfolded, viewers discovered how each of the backstories evolved over the past year. All the while, more light was shed on the inner workings of the mysterious [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]].

Towards the end of the season, a [[The Music|familiar musical theme]] was heard. By the final episodes it all became evident, these melodies were part of what would be a total re-imagination of the 1967 Bob Dylan classic "All Along the Watchtower," performed by [[BT4]] and featuring former [[w:Oingo Boingo|Oingo Boingo]] musicians [[w:John Avila|John Avila]] on bass and [[Steve Bartek]] on guitar.

"It was a daring idea by [[Ron Moore]], and at first I thought he was crazy," confessed McCreary. "It's a classic song that was completely redefined by [[w:Jimi Hendrix|Jimi Hendrix]]. But, Ron told me to make it my own and gave me total creative freedom to re-invent this song for ''Battlestar Galactica''. And when the episode came together, I knew it was the right choice."

The song's lyrics, including "There must be some way out of here / Said the joker to the thief / There's too much confusion / I can't get no relief," perfectly reflect what the human race is going through in their battle with the Cylons through the series. Both the song and the show raise questions about the very nature of humanity and our struggle to survive against what holds us captive.

In addition to the new performance of the song, the soundtrack album features the original score that McCreary wrote for the season. "The show is evolving," describes McCreary. "And the music is evolving as well. It is head and shoulders above anything that I've done before."

Bear McCreary's feature film credits include ''[[w:Wrong Turn 2|Wrong Turn 2]]'' and ''[[w:Rest Stop|Rest Stop]]''. He also scores the hit series ''[[ew:Eureka|Eureka]]'' for Sci Fi Channel and the upcoming ''[[w:Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles|Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' for [[w:Fox Network|Fox]]. McCreary was among a handful of select protégés of late film music legend [[w:Elmer Bernstein|Elmer Bernstein]] ([[w:The Magnificent Seven|THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN]]) and is a classically trained composer with degrees in Composition and Recording Arts from the prestigious [[w:University of South Carolina|USC Thornton School of Music]].

[[Razor|Battlestar Galactica: Razor]] will be released [[Razor (Region 1 DVD)|on DVD]] December 4. The [[Season 4 (2008)|fourth season]] premieres on January 11, 2008 on the Sci Fi Channel. The ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Three'' soundtrack will be available in stores or from [http://www.lalalandrecords.com www.lalalandrecords.com] on October 23, 2007. The soundtrack from the ''Battlestar Galactica'' [[Miniseries|mini-series]], the Season One and Season Two soundtracks, and ''Wrong Turn 2'' are also available from La-La Land Records.
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Thoughts? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:49, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

:Yeah, that would be a good idea. The press releases don't really add much useful information to the articles anyways IMO. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Soundtrack (Season 3)/Archive 1

2007-10-24T15:36:15Z

Lork:

Somebody forgot to renew the domain name... http://www.lalalandrecords.com/ eek --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 06:59, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:The site is up again :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:37, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::Good stuff, must have been down a few days tho. Renewall date was the 11th. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:01, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I think it was up at least 2 days ago. I keep checking the site to see if they have put up the BSG soundtrack. In case anyone doesn't know yet: If you pre-order the CD there, you get an autographed copy. At least that was the case with the first two seasons. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:09, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::My season 2 CD is autographed from the site --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:13, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
:::::LLL told us (signature) pre-orders won't be available until early October. I'll try to get one again. :) -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 15:26, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
::::::Thats not too long away, we are half way into september now. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 15:33, 18 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm interested in buying it. Is the theme from Adama's atmo hyperjump when invading New Caprica available? It's pretty much the only reason why I would get this soundtrack. {{unsigned|Lork}}
:Its highly likely, its an important piece of music in the show much like how i felt when I first heard [[Soundtrack (Season 2)#Track_Listing|''Pegasus (2:46)'']] in the episode where we first see [[Pegasus (RDM)|it]]. I think its going to be part of ''Storming New Caprica (7:48)'' but my copy should be either waiting for me when I get home or come tomorrow so i'll let you know then. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:37, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:I got my copy of it yesterday at Best Buy and yes, the Adama manuver music is part of track 4, "Storming New Caprica". Another highlight near the very end of the track is the music playing as Pegasus rams into the basestar. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:11, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:The soundtrack really has a lot of other great stuff besides that track and the way, way overrated "All Along the Watchtower". "Admiral and Commander" (the Adama goodbye from "Exodus, Part I) for example has a nice guitar part in the middle that's not on TV. "A Distant Sadness" (opening of "Occupation"), "Refugees Return", "Violence and Variations", "Adama Falls", "Battlestar Sonatica", "Kat's Sacrifice", "Temple of Five" and "Gentle Execution" are top tracks too. There isn't really a weak piece on the album. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
::I love "Admiral and Commander", that's my favorite track on the cd, especially since it incorporates my favorite melody, all the way back to "A Good Lighter" in the Season One OST. "Adama Falls" and "The Dance" from Unfinished Business were good too. It seems with each successive album, I enjoy more and more of it. I listened to it again during my hour long commute to college, I'll be listening to it on the way back too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:54, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks for the swift replies! I just had a chatter with a friend of mine over icq and recently, he let me listened to that Storming Caprica music over teamspeak2. Hmm... First off, that track does indeed have the theme, but the end of it sort of "branches" off. It's not like the scene when the galactica emerges from hyperspace/from the hyperjump. Using audacity, I recorded it and compared it with the clip at youtube - They differ from each other :( I asked my buddy to check further, but just by skimming that track, he said there were none of the themes alike the youtube clip! :( Following the icq chat, he said around and between 2:09 and 2:28 is where the different theme is heard. Not going to stop me from getting the soundtrack, but I'm a bit disappointed that it sounds different... or is this theme heard in previous soundtracks?! Not sure if it is allowed to post youtube links.

==Press release==
Theres a few of them now on the site and they take up a lot of room. I was wonderinf if perhaps we should create a template so that they are more easily distinguised from text written by us? Here is an example of what it might look like.

{| class="messagebox" style="width:100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" align="center"
|- class="infoboxheader"
! PRESS RELEASE XX OCTOBER 2007
|-
|FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: SEASON THREE SOUNDTRACK TO BE RELEASED BY LA-LA LAND RECORDS ON OCTOBER 23RD

Soundtrack includes a new interpretation of the classic "All Along The Watchtower"

(October 8, 2007- [[w:Burbank|Burbank, CA]]) - The soundtrack from the standout [[Season 3 (2006-07)|third season]] of the [[SciFi Channel]]'s critically acclaimed television series, ''[[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar Galactica]]'', will be released by [[La-La Land Records]] on October 23, 2007. Composer [[Bear McCreary]], who scored the [[Season 1 (2004-05)|first]] and [[season 2 (2005-06)|second]] seasons of the show, composed the score for the third season as well. In addition to McCreary's score, the album also features McCreary's new interpretation of the classic [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]] song, "[[w:All Along the Watchtower|All Along the Watchtower]]," whose themes featured prominently in [[Crossroads, Part I|several]] [[Crossroads, Part II|episodes]] and in McCreary's score.

Considered one of the top 10 shows currently on TV by ''[[w:Time Magazine|Time Magazine]]'', ''[[w:Entertainment Weekly|Entertainment Weekly]]'', and ''[[w:TV Guide|TV Guide]]'', ''Battlestar Galactica'' also won the prestigious [[Awards and Honors#Peabody Award|Peabody Award]] in 2005.

The television series stars [[Edward James Olmos]], [[Mary McDonnell]], [[James Callis]], [[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Katee Sackhoff]]. The third season began by launching the characters' lives a year ahead of the second season finale. As it the action unfolded, viewers discovered how each of the backstories evolved over the past year. All the while, more light was shed on the inner workings of the mysterious [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]].

Towards the end of the season, a [[The Music|familiar musical theme]] was heard. By the final episodes it all became evident, these melodies were part of what would be a total re-imagination of the 1967 Bob Dylan classic "All Along the Watchtower," performed by [[BT4]] and featuring former [[w:Oingo Boingo|Oingo Boingo]] musicians [[w:John Avila|John Avila]] on bass and [[Steve Bartek]] on guitar.

"It was a daring idea by [[Ron Moore]], and at first I thought he was crazy," confessed McCreary. "It's a classic song that was completely redefined by [[w:Jimi Hendrix|Jimi Hendrix]]. But, Ron told me to make it my own and gave me total creative freedom to re-invent this song for ''Battlestar Galactica''. And when the episode came together, I knew it was the right choice."

The song's lyrics, including "There must be some way out of here / Said the joker to the thief / There's too much confusion / I can't get no relief," perfectly reflect what the human race is going through in their battle with the Cylons through the series. Both the song and the show raise questions about the very nature of humanity and our struggle to survive against what holds us captive.

In addition to the new performance of the song, the soundtrack album features the original score that McCreary wrote for the season. "The show is evolving," describes McCreary. "And the music is evolving as well. It is head and shoulders above anything that I've done before."

Bear McCreary's feature film credits include ''[[w:Wrong Turn 2|Wrong Turn 2]]'' and ''[[w:Rest Stop|Rest Stop]]''. He also scores the hit series ''[[ew:Eureka|Eureka]]'' for Sci Fi Channel and the upcoming ''[[w:Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles|Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' for [[w:Fox Network|Fox]]. McCreary was among a handful of select protégés of late film music legend [[w:Elmer Bernstein|Elmer Bernstein]] ([[w:The Magnificent Seven|THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN]]) and is a classically trained composer with degrees in Composition and Recording Arts from the prestigious [[w:University of South Carolina|USC Thornton School of Music]].

[[Razor|Battlestar Galactica: Razor]] will be released [[Razor (Region 1 DVD)|on DVD]] December 4. The [[Season 4 (2008)|fourth season]] premieres on January 11, 2008 on the Sci Fi Channel. The ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Three'' soundtrack will be available in stores or from [http://www.lalalandrecords.com www.lalalandrecords.com] on October 23, 2007. The soundtrack from the ''Battlestar Galactica'' [[Miniseries|mini-series]], the Season One and Season Two soundtracks, and ''Wrong Turn 2'' are also available from La-La Land Records.
|}
Thoughts? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 07:49, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

:Yeah, that would be a good idea. The press releases don't really add much useful information to the articles anyways IMO. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Soundtrack (Season 3)/Archive 1

2007-10-24T11:43:02Z

Lork:

Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques

2007-06-24T18:35:15Z

Lork: /* Radio/"Wireless" interference effect? */

{{project|Official Communique's|image=BSG WIKI Official CrewCast.png|shortcut=BW:OC}}

Members of '''''Battlestar Wiki''''': This page is to coordinate all questions to any official members of the cast or crew of "[[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar Galactica]]." Please sign your question after you are done. The "summary" of the question should be be first, if any, and then the questions, in short form, should be placed at the bottom. This is to not confuse people and to keep the questions distinctive.

Cast/Crew: These are questions we are seeking answers to. If you have the time, please answer them as best you can. We will move these questions/answers to the correct page once they have been done. You can also check out ''[[:md:Category:Seeking Official Information|Category:Seeking Official Information]]'' for larger items - particularly pictures.

All questions which have been previously answered can be found on the archive pages. Questions get moved to the archives once items and questions stemming from the issue have stopped.

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== Intro, survivor count for Crossroads, Part I ==

The latest episode, "[[Crossroads, Part I]]", did not have an intro movie (time constraints?), nor did it show a survivor count. I personally don't care much about the intro movie (since we get back actual episode content), but there are a lot of die-hard fans here eager to know the survivor count. What was the count for Crossroads, Part I? Is Part II going to have an intro and a survivor count? Have you abolished the intro movie altogether? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:15, 21 March 2007 (CDT)
:The survivor count was on the board during the trial. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 18:54, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
::No, the number of people who escaped New Caprica was on the board. "Crossroads" takes place 2 to 3 months later. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:37, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

== Number of Season Four episodes ==

I realize this was only just announced, and you may not know or be able to comment, but there seems to be confusion over what exactly the 22 episode season order entails. Alongside this announcement, there is confirmation of the made for TV movie, which Sci-Fi is describing as "a special two-hour extended episode." The thing that people are unsure of is whether the movie counts toward the 22 episode count. Will the movie count as two episodes, and then Season Four proper will be the standard 20 episode? [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 17:39, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

I don't know how SciFi is going to label the "seasons" but the 22 episodes are broken down as such: 2 for the "Special Extended Episode." We come back to where season three left off at episode #3 and do a cliff-hanger at episode 12. Then we have 10 more to bring the series to its resolution. That adds up to 22. - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 21:56, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Faster-Than-Light Stuff ==

Hi there. We know that Ron Moore's goal for the show, as stated in his [[Naturalistic science fiction]] essay, was not to use incredulous science for the show, for instance, faster-than-light travel. We have a little debate if that applied to faster-than-light communications. Several instances appeared where Cylon downloading and communications may move faster than light. We understand that "FTL" travel is apparent-FTL through the [[FTL|wormhole theory]], but has there been a change to how writers handle, say, communications between Cylons at long range (like between one basestar to the infected one in "[[Torn]]"). Did Boomer's consciousness go to a Resurrection Ship and then to Caprica, or traveled farther, relayed, or some other process? If you like, you can see the extended debate in the [[Talk:Faster-than-light communication]] article to note our confusion. If true-FTL does not exist anywhere in the Re-imagined universe, we'll just tack it up to a continuity error that, I feel at least, is for cinematic purposes so a story doesn't get all overly technical or complicated. Thanks. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:07, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
:Let me ask me more precise question: how do the Cylons manage to appear at the Fleet's previous position less than 12 hours after it jumped away? The Fleet must be making multi-lightyear jumps, since their destination (the Ionian nebula) is thousands of lightyears away. Does the radiation signature from the ''[[Daru Mozu]]'' travel faster than light? The radiation signature from the [[Cloud 9]] blast did travel at lightspeed. Do the Cylons have some other way of tracking the Fleet? Or is it simply a continuity error? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 03:48, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
::Note that we can't be sure the Cylons really traced them with the radiation signature. That is only what Six suggested they "might have done." Six might even be lying -- not about the signature's presence, but about how usable it is for tracking -- to cover up the real tracking method. But most of all, the Cylon fleet at Ionia didn't track them there using the radiation signature because the Mining ship was off elsewhere as a decoy.
::Now that said, since an FTL radiation signature seems unlikely, this would imply that if used, the radiation signature somehow allows the Cylons to track where a ship has jumped from its origination point. ie. that somehow the mining ship radiated its target jump coordinates. It's never said, but the colonials clearly believe it is not possible to tell where a ship jumped to, but the only ways to track a jumping ship would be either that, or an FTL transmission from the destination.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 18:05, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
:::::The radiation signature is definitely a buy. Our Tech guy, Kevin Grazier (who put the cameras on Cassini) came up with a more accurate explanation (after all, space is chock full of radiation and FTL emanations would get lost in the clutter), but because radiation sounded simpler, that's what ended up in the show. Originally, the sick ship in Torn was detected by scouts sent by the main unit of the Cylon fleet and the message relayed back to them when the scouts returned. I'm not sure if that bit of legwork remained in the final cut. Finally, there might still be Cylon agents in the colonial fleet, tracking devices left on the ships from New Caprica - the Cylons aren't going to give up all their technological secrets that easily, especially regarding the transmission of the massive amounts of data involved in the resurrection process -- [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:06, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Identity of the Final Five ==

Out of curosity, how long have you guys known who the final five are? I know Ron Moore's made comments that indicate that these were more recent decisions, but I was just curious at what point did you guys decide on who were going to be Cylons, and what really went into that decision. Thanks! [[User:ColonelKevin|ColonelKevin]] 16:55, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

::Four of the five were recent. If memory serves, the fifth (which may change) we've been kicking around since about the end of Season One. -- [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:08, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Production numbers ==

There is a question about the actual production numbers behind the series. For instance, there is some information on the internet where the production numbers differ. For instance, some are formatted like ("T2701") -- an alleged production number for "[[Occupation]]" -- while others are formatted as 03001 (or even 301). Just wanted to know what exactly the actual "production number" should look like. Thanks Bradley! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:58, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

: I believe that the T27nn numbers are internal Warner Bros. numbers for the Comcast tapes that they made and fed to Comcast. I believe the 030nn numbers correspond to the production office assignments to the episodes, i.e., where 03019 is the production number for 'Crossroads, Part 2'. Thanks for helping in clearing this up.[[User:Vidiot|Vidiot]] 01:11, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

:::Sorry, I don't have that answer. Here we see them as "Season 4/ Episode 5 /405 / 04005. The other numbers arrive from a mysterious source. And the financial paperwork tends to have numbers that are altogether different. Let me know what you find out. -- [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:11, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

::::Thank you for your efforts! Interesting how an episode can have so many different numbers though... Gotta love paperwork! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 19:26, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

== Xeno vs Zeno Fenner (Dirty Hands) ==

Currently we have him as "[[Xeno Fenner|Xeno]]", but the SciFi website lists him as "Zeno". Do you know which version is correct? --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:07, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

::The shooting script has him listed as Xeno Fenner. Any changes beyond that are news to me. -- [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:13, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Cylon numbers ==

Although we've been flooded with Cylon identities lately (we now know 11 of the 12 models), we still know only four numbers ([[Number Three|Three]], [[Number Five|Five]], [[Number Six|Six]] and [[Number Eight|Eight]]). Could you enlighten us as to the numbers of the other seven known Cylons? If you can't tell us that, can you at least tell us whether these numbers will be revealed in [[Season 4 (2008)|Season Four]]? It would also be interesting to know if the one remaining Cylon is indeed Number One, as we suspected. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:24, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

::We have deliberately not nailed those numbers down. - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:15, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Centurions and the final five ==

We already know [[Centurion]]s are hard-coded not to hurt the Significant Seven. Does the same go for the [[final five]]? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:51, 29 March 2007 (CDT)
:We've seen em shoot at Anders, so I'd say no. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 19:44, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
::They've also shot at Athena, though in neither case have they hit the target Cylon. Also, it hasn't been stated that they are hard-coded to not hurt the Seven (unless ordered, as by Three), only that they aren't sentient enough to rebel against them. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 21:34, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
:::Alright, rephrase: do the Centurions 'know' the final five? Would they take orders from them? Or are they just as ignorant as the Seven? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 04:17, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
::::Well it seems logical that the Seven programmed the Centurions, so I don't think the Centurions would know what the Seven don't. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:11, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
:::::To be fair that's actually quite the assumption; the Significant Seven don't know who programmed them, so I don't think it's a stretch to consider that they don't know who did the base program of the Centurions either. There's enough to go either way with it, so I think the question given here is a valid one. [[User:ColonelKevin|ColonelKevin]] 15:54, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
::::::Actually that's a good point. for some reason I assumed the Seven programmed the rest. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 18:44, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

:This thread has pretty much covered everything we've decided to let slip. -- [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:17, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

==Adama/Tigh Meeting==
Hello, Mr. Thompson. Given the recent revelations about Tigh a lot of people have become interested on when he met Adama, but when we look back we have 2 conflicting sources. So I was wondering if you could maybe tell us which is considered to be the real one? Without revealing anything of course.

Now, we saw them meet in the flashbacks in “Scattered”, which are mentioned in the podcast [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Podcast:Scattered] to be 20 years before the miniseries, and this also seems to fit with how they look and such.

However, in “Torn” Adama says he has known Tigh for 30 years, and though admittedly it’s now technically 22-23 years after their official meeting, “30” is still a long way. It’s quite possible that Adama was dramatizing for the purpose of connecting to Tigh, but either way it creates doubt.

So my question was, is the timeline we were originally presented the official one or is it different? --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 16:18, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

:::Adama is exaggerating for effect. - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:20, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

::::Awesome, thank you for taking the time :) --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 00:23, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

== Spelling of carom and meaning of DRADIS ==

There has been some [[Talk:Dradis|debate]] recently as to how [[carom]] is spelled. Some say carom, some karam, and some charagm. The subtitles spell it as carom, are they right? How do the scripts spell it? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 02:32, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

And for that matter, do you have consistent meaning of "DRADIS"? We currently have "Direction, RAnge and DIStance" which fits with recon photography, but is somewhat redundant. Someone suggested "Direction, Right Ascension and DISstance" which would fit as well. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:46, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

:I thought DRADIS meant "Direction and RADial DIStance," which would make perfect sense.
--[[User:123home123|123home123]] 03:25, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

::Carom is, well, carom. Not sure about dradis, but since you know what it does... - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:22, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Roslin and the Admiral ==

Following on from the discussion at [[Talk:Humanoid Cylon speculation]]... in the [[Podcast:Frak Party Q and A|frak party podcast]], RDM said that he decided against Mary and Edward being in the four revealed Cylons because it would take something away from the series. Does this mean that unequivocally the Admiral and Roslin are not the final Cylon? --[[User:SSH|SSH]] 04:32, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

::Nothing's unequivocal until you see it on the screen. - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:23, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Gun Nomenclature-revisited ==

In a previous article there seemed to be a writing staff debate on what the various types of capital and Viper guns were...some people on the staff appeared to prefer railguns and some chemical weapons. You can plausibly have both in the setting, here's how and why.

The only needed science is that real world railguns can theoretically acheive higher muzzle velocities than chemical weapons, but the electrical power sources for a rail gun are very large and heavy. So:

-Vipers and Raiders would carry chemically propelled rounds b/c they cannot mount the necessary power supplies. Also, they do not need the higher muzzle velocities of railguns - Vipers have higher closing velocities on their targets...ie. the Viper's drives provide aprt of the shell's velocity.

-Battlestar batteries - These vessels fight at low velocities relative to other cap ships. Also, they carry thicker armor. Hence, they need higher velocity shells to damage similarly armored targets. Also, BSG's are large enough to carry large power supplies.

Your art staff needn't worry either, actual railguns produce visible muzzle flash due to the vaporization of portions of the round
[http://www.eng.auburn.edu/department/ece/railgun/ Auburn railgun firing]

Hope this helps...assuming the debate is still going on. [[User:Feld|Feld]] 19:04, 28 April 2007 (CDT)

== What is "Razor"? ==

Dear Mr. Thompson, the first S4 casting information [http://www.sidesexpress.com/se_index.cfm?locid=5&task=type&l=5&c=battlestar#sr has surfaced]. The sheets say #401/402 "Razor" will feature Young Helena (Cain?) and Helena's father, among others. Could you please clarify whether this information refers to the TV movie about the ''Pegasus'' or to the genuine S4 premiere? -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 17:20, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
: According to [http://www.myentertainmentworld.com/mew/audition_film-tv.html#sr this] is safe to say that Razor is TV Movie about Pegasus. --[[User:Deus|Deus]] 15:12, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
:: Aah, I just love your scoops. :-) --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 15:30, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
:::Thanks, but unfortunately this one is not mine... It was found by Countess Persephone at Ragnar Anchorage.--[[User:Deus|Deus]] 16:21, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
:::: What I find interesting is that they are casting the role of the Hybrid (probably a Basestar CPU [[Hybrid]], but it could be something else), meaning it may be someone other than Tiffany Lyndall-Knight. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:50, 20 May 2007 (CDT)
::::: OK, I'd say that [http://nbcumv.com/distribution/release_detail.nbc/scifi-20070601000000-039galactica039.html?international=1#sr this] confirms the Razor title... --[[User:Deus|Deus]] 19:04, 3 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Even the Sci Fi Channel can err, and has. That same article shows character names, and most of them are incorrectly spelled. Such information has changed at the last minute before, and trying to "lock" it down before the episode is advertised on-screen is likely to burn us. Right now, the movie article has a redirect link with this title, so for now we'll just leave things as-is for the article. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 23:14, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

The Season 4 Premiere is Episode #3 - but Razor will reveal something that will affect what happens in Season 4 - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:26, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

==Season 4 First Episode Title==

The same source cited above by Pedda also names "[[He That Believath In Me]]" as the title for the first [[Season 4]] episode. Is this name correct? Is the misspelling intentional? TIA. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:10, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

:: No, we don't spell quite that badly. - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:27, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Do you mean that "[[He That Believeth In Me]]" is the correct title? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:08, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

== Radio/"Wireless" interference effect? ==

Hi. I am curious in how this effect was produced, namely the effect heard in various scenes such as the Galactica communicating with its fighters as well as the wireless stand off dialog between Adama and Cain. Due to the rather offside nature of this question, I am aware that it is unlikely to find a guide of such, but I do seek ways in producing this somewhat interesting effect for things like fanmade game mods - for this effect does provide a very indepth feeling of using "antique" tech. I am referring to that double tone disorted voice during speech over commlines. Thank you for any hints, links, advicce. I "apollo"gize ;) for the unusual question - I hope it is not too far out what I am asking.
On the side note, I must say being a writer for BSG must be fun, wish I could something alike. --[[User:Lork|Lork]] 06:05, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:: It's a great question, one that the sound and post guys have proudly explained to me -- they actually transmit the dialogue over a wireless and record the result from the receiver. The static, though controllable, is the real deal. And yes, writing for Battlestar is the best job in the world. - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 22:31, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

::: It's the distortion from transmission using single-sideband modulation. FM and AM don't produce that sort of distortion. Ham radio guys know all about it. I'm not sure it can be faked for a game mod but you may be able to get some hams to help you out. [[User:Mward|Mward]] 08:35, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Well, technically SSBM is a special case of AM. The most simple way to get a single-sideband is passing an amplitude modulated signal through a bandpass and thus removing one of the duplicated sidebands. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:47, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

:::::I wasn't attempting to explain it, just identify it. I figured the original poster could look it up. Doing that sort of conversion in a computer won't result in the distortion you hear on the show. That's caused by being slightly off-frequency or fiddling with the tuner while transmitting or receiving. As far as communications go, it's not very hard to tune a radio and so the effect on the series is kind of out of place. I doubt you could chalk it up to relativistic doppler effect since most of the time the 2 ships transmitting aren't moving at appreciable fractions of light speed away or towards eachother. However, I will say as a fan, the cinematic effect is really cool and adds to the air of techy spaciness the show has. [[User:Mward|Mward]] 09:31, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

:Many thanks! [[User:Lork|Lork]] 13:35, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

== Battlestar Night Flight/(Era)smus ==

Due to the discussions along [[Talk:Night Flight]] and this [[Sci Fi Channel|Sci Fi]] thread ([http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2275066 New battlestar name discovered]), I'm rather surprised no one bothered confirming this just yet: In the episode, [[Home, Part I]], two battlestars are mentioned in Adama's paperwork [[Image:Aerilon proof2.jpg|thumb|The battlestar's name on a personnel file.]]: ''[[Night Flight]]'' and the other, through analysis, to be ''[[Erasmus]]''. Do you know if ''Erasmus'' is correct and if you know of any other information concerning these choices (quite frankly ''Night Flight'' reminds me too much of ''[[w:Knight Rider|Knight Rider]]''). [[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 23:14, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

:::The Art Department, who comes up with all this stuff, is very creative. Wait till you see the magazine about paragliding on Scorpia - [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] 23:26, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
::::I had been hoping the Night Flight thing was a Led Zeppelin reference. Oh well :) --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 23:28, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

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== Scifipedia ==

It seems Sci Fi has set up their own wiki, and looking through there I saw some articles which were, while not text-for-text copies, strongly influenced by our setup here. Is this a problem, or can we just let it pass by? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:47, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
:Which articles? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 12:53, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
::[[Scifipedia:Aaron Douglas|Aaron Douglas]], for one. Let me find a few more. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:57, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
:::[[Scifipedia:Katee Sackhoff|Katee Sackhoff]] is eerily similar to ours, as well. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 13:00, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
::::Well, at first, I was going to say they probably just used an appropriate license, but [[Scifipedia:SCIFIPEDIA:Terms of Use|SCIFIPEDIA:Terms of Use]] definitely means they don't. This is a problem, as the content there clearly infringes. The same user originated both of the example articles, and they show clear similarity in a way suggesting an attempt to disguise the copying or a very poor effort to paraphase. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 13:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::Let's have Joe notified on this. They (in proxy) own the rights to talk about the show, but not to copy from other wikis if they are going to respect the MediaWiki process and the licensing. Oh, this isn't new: Wikipedia contributors have greatly boosted many articles from us as well. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, I know it's not new, but I figured it should be brought up. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 17:21, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
:I've been aware of the growing issue. Scifi claims that they are the ones who wrote the original articles, such as the one on [[Edward James Olmos]]. Right now, I need help gathering evidence to the contrary -- please feel free to either e-mail me or post any evidence here. Since my time is now getting extremely limited, I need help in this. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:20, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
::Both the BSWiki and Scifipedia use MediaWiki and both has history showing page edits. Its obviously which site wrote it first and which one just edited in large chunks. Someone really needs to give JohnRDouglas a kick up the bum. Of course its a bit of a dilema because if SciFi really wanted to they could force us to pull virtually all our content, or at the very least the images. We dont want to piss them off, but at the same time, they cant go around using material written by other people. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 19:37, 13 November 2006 (CST)

== german Battlestar Wiki ==
Again german Battlestar Wiki was the first, who aired a german description of the new episode [[Exodus, Part II]]. Thank you to all of you, who aired the english description very fast and made this translation possible. :o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 14:30, 21 October 2006 (CDT)

:''Danke'', Tirkon and to everyone as well. Folks like yourself on the Internationalization project are some of our most remarkable contributors because you have to manage up to 3 separate versions, while us meager English users just have our place. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:49, 21 October 2006 (CDT)

== Miniseries Standardization ==

Of all the episode articles, the Miniseries article is most nonstandard, with much information that has been discussed ''ad nauseum'' in many other articles on Battlestar Wiki. As with any episode article, the content should reflect the parts aired, the significant summary of events, and brief questions and analysis generated by the initial broadcast (many of which has been answered).

The current format has extended analysis in the second part, most of which is painfully redundant with [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]] and many, many other articles. I will be revising both parts to reflect their episodic nature, separating the events in each part, with questions and analysis for each episode. The articles will be renamed based on our current naming procedure in managing multi-part episodes. Both parts will avoid extended questions and analysis as much from the miniseries has been answered, but will point to the episodes and other articles that answer these questions. Any topics or sections that discuss the overall changes between the Re-imagined Series and Original Series will be moved to [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]] if the item is not already present. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:28, 25 October 2006 (CDT)

:The [[Cylons (RDM)]] article seems as an introduction to the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]] as well. Further I also think, that the term [[Cylon Agent]] is at the latest obsolete now. Caprica-Six, Galactica-Sharon and Caprica Sharon are the first examples against. Especially Caprica-Sharon could be called a "human agent" now. A Number Five shot Caprica Six because she helped Baltar. German version had the "mercy of the late birth" and did not use the term from the beginning ;o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 11:34, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

== Special Number Three in third season ==

Since the third season we have one [[Number Three]] Character who played and will probably play in future a special role. If I remember correct, it was the same Three, who was slain by Six in [[Downloaded]]. We heard that the oracle said, she never should hold the child, because everything will change then. But she did. The first consequence was, that she did not nuke the town. I think, now at the latest we should give her a special name. In the describtions it would be much easier, to identify her. What do you think? And what is about [[Caprica-Three]], because she was introduced there? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 11:18, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

== Images ==

I am not sure why, but my entires on Valkyrie, Eugene Novacek and Admiral Corman which were primarily just images uploaded onto the pages were deleted...I don't get it, doesn't it help to have pictures to refer to the subject the page is discussing. If it is a matter of spoiling future episodes with these pictures, readers are imformed at the top of the page which all of the above mentioned pages have, that the page is a spoiler. If it is my own fault for not siting where i got the images taking them down isn't exactly the answer, why not modify them yourselves. I realize I am a huge amateur so, discussing this for me will help myself and possibly others.
:It's not a spoiler issue at all, and your efforts are appreciated. In this case I believe it was simply a matter of the images being duplicates of images already previously uploaded. I'll see if I can track down the image names so that the articles that you mention can be corrected. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:49, 9 November 2006 (CST)
:Apparently they can be found at [[md:User:Shane/gallery|Shane's gallery]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:55, 9 November 2006 (CST)

== Firefly class ==

I have what might be a dumb question, and I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here it is: Does anyone think it would be a good idea to create an article for Firefly-class transports? I mean, a Firefly class ship could be seen in the skies of Caprica in the miniseries, so it might be worthy of an article. The reason I am asking is because the Star Wars Wiki has an article for Firefly class ships (see: [[Wookiepedia:Firefly-class mid-bulk transport|Firefly-class mid-bulk transport]]). Basically, since a Firefly-class ship was shown on a single panel of a Star Wars Webstrip, it was deemed worthy of it's own article on the Star Wars Wiki, so I was thinking that since a Firefly could be seen in the Galactica miniseries, it might be worth an article here as well. Just thought I would ask about it. [[User:NickScryer|NickScryer]] 19:38, 12 November 2006 (CST)
:The appearance of that ship is noted in [[Re-imagined Series References#Miniseries|our "Easter Egg"]] article (though we still need to come up with a way to increase the exposure to that article). ''Enterprise'' also made an appearance in the miniseries, but those cameos were both obvious tributes, and neither of those ships was ever to be seen again. Should either of those craft make another appearance we'll know for certain that they were intended to be canon, but until that point it'd probably be best to err on the side of caution and assume that they are just one-shot gags from the VFX guys at Zoic. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 20:44, 12 November 2006 (CST)
:As Spencerian said, these were likely one-time cameos. There's very little need to add individual articles about them, when the [[Re-imagined Series References]] would more than suffice. Also, other than a brief appearance, what else of an in-universe nature would there be to say about ''Serenity'' or ''Enterprise''? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 09:52, 13 November 2006 (CST)
::The amusing part is that the footage with the Enterpise in it (the first fleet shot at the end of the Miniseries) is in the opening credits of each episode with, if I remember correctly, the exception of the New Caprica ones. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:58, 13 November 2006 (CST)
:''"...was shown on a single panel of a Star Wars Webstrip, it was deemed worthy of it's own article on the Star Wars Wiki..."'' - I work over there (Star Wars Wiki), and let me tell you, my fellow editors/contributers are gonzo/bonkers/rabid/nutbag/loons. They create entire articles about a Star Destroyer variant that appeared in a two-bit, rarely seen comic book only because the artist was too lazy or too short on talent to draw the precise diameter of the bridge sensor ranging domes, or slightly changed the exact shape of an X-Wing's engine intakes so whoa! we need a whole article about ''that'' "special X-Wing"! I'd agree with the rest here... keep the homage cameos as footnotes only. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 09:33, 22 December 2006 (CST)

==Formatting box==
This isn't really a question about the wiki per se, but I thought this would be the most appropriate place to ask. I'm one of the admins over at the Star Trek Expanded Universe wiki, which, if you didn't know, is the fanfic/fan film counterpart to Memory Alpha. I was wondering how I would go about having the box below the editing field with all of the formatting shortcuts added to my wiki. Considering that I'm also the rank archivist for the wiki, it's extremely agitating to have to type out the <nowiki></nowiki> tags every time I'm writing something about the different grades of Petty Officers and Second/First Lieutenants. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 15:24, 26 November 2006 (CST)
:It's at [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] on this wiki, and it should be in the same place at your own wiki, assuming it runs on MediaWiki. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 17:38, 26 November 2006 (CST)
::Ok, I added it, but it doesn't seem to work. Can you tell what the problem is? --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 17:59, 26 November 2006 (CST)
::The stuff is showing up on edit pages, but it's all text and no links. --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 18:17, 26 November 2006 (CST)
:::If I were to guess, it's that there's CSS stuff at work. Note the div and span id's up at the top in the code? I'm betting the default css styles here (bsgbook and bsgmonobook) have been rigged to interpret those correctly. Hopefully Shane or Joe will notice this, as I think both of them were involved with getting it up and running here. I'm sure they'd be glad to help another wiki out (whenever their ridiculous schedules will allow). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 18:55, 26 November 2006 (CST)
::::Hi Kevin! Welcome to the wiki! ;-) Actually, in order to get edittools working, you will need the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CharInsert charinsert] extension. Obviously, if you have need for any assistance from me, please feel free to ask! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 19:58, 26 November 2006 (CST)
:::::Ok, I need help on how to get the charinsert tag working. I have no idea how to do it. --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 20:21, 26 November 2006 (CST)
::::::Hmm... Did you edit the LocalSettings.php config file and upload? Reason I ask is because the extension is not showing up on [http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Version STEU's Version page]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:42, 26 November 2006 (CST)
:::::::The thing is, I don't know where the Local Settings page is. Exactly where is it? --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 20:48, 26 November 2006 (CST)
::::::::Do you have FTP access to the server, because that's the only way to get it, edit it and then upload it again. (Sadly, It's not accessible through the web-interface used by the MediaWiki software.) If you don't feel comfortable with changing the stuff directly on the server -- or don't have the access -- I suggest firing off an e-mail to the Wikia folks and let them know to install the charinsert extension for you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:54, 26 November 2006 (CST)
== Ratings? ==
One of the stats on the Lurker's guide episode guides were a "P5 Rating", an informal poll rating the episodes. Would that be of value? Personally, I'd almost rather see something more like the last vote in the Coaches poll for college football, where the votes are published. Something with the user, the rating, and maybe a brief explanation of why they rated it like they did. My only fear is that may degenerate into cross-talk and vote manipulation ("I voted a 1 because User:Starbuck_Rocks_My_World is an idiot and voted it a 10 when it should really be more like a 6 but she just really like Starbuck episodes.") Some sort of automated tabulation would also be good, as we wouldn't want to add more admin overhead (especially for older episodes). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:30, 21 December 2006 (CST)
: I'm not too keen on the idea, personally. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)
:Disagree as well. There are enough forums where people can rate episodes. For a place that strives to be objective, it would add unneeded subjectivity --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:17, 21 December 2006 (CST)
::Some kind of javascript/dhtml/css user [http://komodomedia.com/blog/index.php/2005/08/24/creating-a-star-rater-using-css/ star rating] might be a cool little addition though, but i think that it should be clearly a user rating not a rating given by the battlestar wiki officially. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 03:46, 22 December 2006 (CST)
:::I can see where there might be conflict with the "encyclopedic" mission (an encyclopedia might note that critics loved/hated a particular work, but shouldn't be in the business of critiquing itself). The user rating was just a thought I had when pondering some of the differences between us and the lurker's guide. Differences aren't always bad... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:56, 22 December 2006 (CST)

== Martial Arts ==

I noticed that this wiki doesn't have an article about Martial arts or hand-to-hand combat. why isn't there one? We have seen boxing used in several episodes, and we have seen a naked [[Eight]] practicing [[Wikipedia:Tai Chi Chuan|Tai Chi]] (even though Tai Chi is consitered a type of moving meditation, it is still technically a martial art). So why don't we have an article about martial arts/hand-to-hand combat? [[User:Dark Claw|Dark Claw]] 22:15, 9 January 2007 (CST)
:Welcome, Dark Claw. The series really hasn't elaborated on these fighting forms (or their versions--note that while things ''look'' contemporary, its not supposed to be truly of Earth) or given much of a storyline that justified a need to write one that's germane to this wiki. Others may have a differing opinion, but ''Battlestar's'' fights are generally uncoordinated brawls without much "art" to them, concentrating on the virtual backstabbing between characters and less of the actual kind. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 23:45, 9 January 2007 (CST)

== Number of pilots in a squadron? ==

I've been reading the wikipedia here as well as several other sources which state the number of Vipers/pilots in a typical Colonial fighter squadron is 20. This is based largely on the visual evidence in the miniseries where Ripper's flight of 20 Vipers is destroyed by 2 Raiders. But it should be noted that this figure did not include Starbuck (she was in the brig) or Apollo (Starbuck's replacement in the fly by but is Colonial 798's escort). When Kara is released out of the brig, she reports 20 pilots in the ready room "climbing the walls" in addition to herself. These lines seem to indicate to me that a squadron is actually 21 planes/pilots. Thoughts?[[User:AnteaterFeeder|AnteaterFeeder]] 18:04, 18 January 2007 (CST)
:Ehh, I think since she said "20 of us" she was counting herself in that number. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 19:15, 18 January 2007 (CST)

:Aside from that, a squadron could have around 20 planes in sorties, but have more pilots and planes to account for maintainance downtime or unavailibility of the pilots (illness and the like) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:16, 19 January 2007 (CST)

== Can't view images ==

I can't view any of the images on the site, what I get in their place is the "No Hotlinking!" image, and I don't know how to sort this out. Please help {{unsigned|TopGun}}
:The only way you would get a "No Hotlinking" error, usually, if you are trying to view an image from off-site. What browser are you using? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 09:37, 19 January 2007 (CST)
::No, that's a browser related problem I think. It has been reported before somewhere, but I can't remember where --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:41, 19 January 2007 (CST)
::From what I have access to, this user is trying to hot-link off site. There is no indication he is trying to view the site. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 09:49, 19 January 2007 (CST)
::Hasn't been a "Hotlink" error on the en. subdomain for the past 300 visitors. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 09:50, 19 January 2007 (CST)
:Happens to me on the media wiki from my works computer. My home one seems to be unaffected. Odd --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:41, 19 January 2007 (CST)

I'm using FireFox version 2, I haven't been hot-linking off-site apart from following a link on imdb.com (well mostly copy and pasting as most members of the imbd mbs don't know how to put proper links in their posts). But even when I go through battlestarwiki.org, I still get the same problem. Thanks anyway folks {{unsigned|TopGun}}
:Please remember to use the signature button http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/skins/common/images/button_sig.png or by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to sign your posts on talk pages --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 13:40, 19 January 2007 (CST)
:It's a firewall issue, as far as I've been able to determine. Do you run a firewall program on your computer, TopGun? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 13:55, 19 January 2007 (CST)

Yes, I'm using kerio personnel firewall--[[User:TopGun|TopGun]] 14:10, 19 January 2007 (CST)

I have the same problem (explorer 7 & Firefox). Using Windows firewall. What's the solution? Thx. --[[User:Ublej|Ublej]] 14:11, 27 January 2007 (CST)

: There is no solution right now, simply because I have to find some time to sit down at one of my workstations and try to troubleshoot it. The best thing any affected user can do right now is send me the name of the firewall program they use (with version number) and their (general) firewall settings and configurations '''''via e-mail directly at joe.beaudoin@gmail.com'''''. Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 21:14, 27 January 2007 (CST)

:: I've posted what I need on [http://blog.battlestarwiki.org/2007/01/30/no-hotlinking-issue/ ze bloug]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:15, 30 January 2007 (CST)

I can now see images. Thanks!--[[User:Ublej|Ublej]] 15:41, 20 February 2007 (CST)

I too can now view the images, thanks--[[User:TopGun|TopGun]] 14:59, 26 February 2007 (CST)

==Trivia and Slideshows==
Since I have been under the weather for nearly a month (at one time I was hospitalized for a possible heart attack and still don't know if I did or not), I have had a lot of time just to sit around and think. A couple of ideas is a central trivia page (especially for the TOS) and a summary slideshow (each line in a episode gets a shot). I know the slideshow would be a lot of work and possibly cause bandwidth concerns (maybe copyright issues?). An easy solution that I played around with was a link to an image at the end of a summary point for just the most suitable points. Just trying to find a way to interject more images without "junking up" the articles. Also, a simple gallery subpage make work also. Just bored to death (almost literally one time, an emergency room damn near killed me.) --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:52, 31 January 2007 (CST)

== Addition Removed ==

I added a small piece to the Baltar as a Cylon article and it has subsequently been removed with instructions to check my email.

The only email I see is one to activate my account.

Therefore

- If my article was removed on purely administrative grounds can i get approval to replace it? And is it stored in some form of recent changes/recycling bin style thing soI do n't have to retype it.
- If it was not what did I do wrong? {{unsigned|Loreki}}

: Hi there! Anyway, the "check your bsgwiki email" message is just for the admins. As for the addition, it appears that your edit didn't make it through, as your [[Special:Contributions/Loreki|contributions]] don't show an edit to [[Baltar as Cylon speculation]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 11:24, 2 February 2007 (CST)
::I was confused by this as I didn't see any edit or revert, but your theory makes sense. Loreki: Did the submission take a very long time? If yes, then you probably made it when the server was dying and, as said, it wasn't transmitted. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:34, 2 February 2007 (CST)
::: I had the same thing happen to me a few times yesterday around the time I added the promo pic to Maelstrom. Took 2-3 times to finally get it to stay put. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:38, 2 February 2007 (CST)

::: That would seem to be an appropriate answer. I shall retype it later. It was just a small item pointing out that the name Gaius is roman, the rest of the series draws Greek parallels. Gaius as foreigner and hence Cylon? {{unsigned|Loreki}}
::::Like other have said, probably just a server hiccup. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:01, 2 February 2007 (CST)

::::While the name is indeed Roman, I would suggest leaving away the rest (and then adding it to [[Gaius Baltar]] instead) . It's not the only Roman reference. In names there is also "Valerii" and "Felix" (sounds American, but it's Latin for "happy"). In religion/mythology, there are Mars Day, Mercury and Jupiter. Especially the Eye of Jupiter indicates that the Colonials use Roman and Greek mythology somewhat interchangeably --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:03, 2 February 2007 (CST)

== Speed ==

Has anyone noticed an increase in speed and responsiveness? Just curious. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 00:03, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
:Yes and I am over-frakking-joyed about it! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 05:35, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
:Ditto! [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 10:21, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
:: Great! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 10:22, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
:Yes, it's great to be fast again. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:10, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
:Now that you say it, it's really a lot faster than before. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:24, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

== Radio/"Wireless" interference effect? ==
Hi. I am curious in how this effect was produced, namely the effect heard in various scenes such as the Galactica communicating with its fighters as well as the wireless stand off dialog between Adama and Cain. Due to the rather offside nature of this question, I am aware that it is unlikely to find a guide of such, but I do seek ways in producing this somewhat interesting effect for things like fanmade game mods - for this effect does provide a very indepth feeling of using "antique" tech. I am referring to that double tone disorted voice during speech over commlines. Thank you for any hints, links, advidce. I appollogize ;) for the offtopic'ness. [[User:Lork|Lork]] 10:53, 29 May 2007 (CDT)
:One way to get in touch with the BSG staff is [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques]]. However, Bradley Thompson seems to be busy at the moment, as he hasn't checked in in a relatively long time. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:00, 29 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree with Serenity: put it up at [[BW:OC]]. It's true that Brad hasn't visited it for quite some time now, but he's probably all caught up in [[Season 4]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 11:35, 29 May 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks, will do. But errr - you mean "THE" BSG staff O_O? Whoa. [[User:Lork|Lork]] 05:56, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
::Well, part of it at least. [[User:Ngarenn|Ngarenn]] is [[Bradley Thompson]]. But as said, don't expect a quick answer. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:21, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
:::That is cool! Yes yes, I will wait. "Those of patience shall be rewarded" :) (my question is done for now here hehe, thanks for all the help)--[[User:Lork|Lork]] 09:25, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

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