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Byron Dane

2008-06-13T01:50:18Z

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{{Character Data
| photo= Byron Dane.jpg
| name=Byron Dane
| seen=Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 1
}}

'''Byron Dane''' is the lone survivor of a destroyed separatist colony on [[DiMarco's planet|a planet]] in [[Neutral Space]].

He is recovered by Captain [[Aaron Kelly]] and [[marine]]s ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 1]]) and brought back to Commander [[William Adama]] and [[Julian DiMarco]]. Dane initially (and correctly) believes that DiMarco is responsible for the destruction of his colony, but Adama lies and blames the destruction on the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2]]).

Dane is taken to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' and is returned to Colonial space ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2]]). Several months later, Dane becomes an outspoken critic of the Colonial government and gains the attention of the Cylons ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 8]]).

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 8

2008-06-13T01:41:49Z

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{{Comic Data
| image=TNBSGSeason08PhotoCov.jpg
| title=Season Zero 8
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=8
| episode=
| writer= [[Brandon Jerwa]]
| penciller= [[Jackson Herbert]]
| inker=
| colorist=
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Jackson Herbert
| published=February 2008
| collects=
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 7]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 9]]
}}

==Summary==
From the publisher: ''Now a full "season" of 12 issues thanks to fan support! Issue #8 of Season Zero continues the brand new storyline by writer [[Brandon Jerwa]] and artist [[Jackson Herbert]]!''

''In this issue: There's more than one conspiracy afoot, with the humans and [[Humanoid Cylon|human-model Cylons]] both finding dissent in their ranks. The big picture is coming into sharper focus and the closer [[William Adama|Adama]] looks, the uglier it gets. Meanwhile, at least one ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' crew member starts down a path of inevitable destiny..."

==Plot==
*Aboard ''Galactica'', in orbit of [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]], [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]] briefs [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]], [[Sergeant Hadrian]], Lieutenant Eric Oehler, and an unidentified person, all dressed in urban combat gear.
*Tigh tells them that thy are to provide seccurity for a high profile target and the conclusion of the mission could determine the fate of ''Galactica''.
*Adama and Tigh talk in a corridor. Adama is concerned about Tigh's choice of personnel for the mission, but Tigh says that threats would underestimate the team. Adama is concerned about Starbuck, but Tigh believes that since she has had something to prove, he might as well give her a chance. Tigh also comments on Adama's apparent depression before heading off to a briefing.
*In [[Caprica City]], a [[Number Six|Six]], [[Number Three|Three]], and [[Number Two|Leoben]] sit in the Caprica Civil Center, waiting for a speaker to arrive. Six and Three discuss whether humanity could heal itself with more people like [[Byron Dane]] and revealing themselves to Dane. Three says that they will reveal themselves, but not the fact that they are Cylons.
*Leoben spots Starbuck, then tells Three and Six that the event will start soon.
*Outside, a Colonial News Network correspondent interviews several people about their opinions on Byron Dane, after commenting that this is the first time that the Colonial government has allowed open dialogue with a dissenter.
*As the event begins, Starbuck and the rest of the team confirm their positions as a women introduces Byron Dane and Colonial representative Owen Patilla.
*Patilla speaks first, stating that the Colonial government is focused on serving the people, not the military machine or personal interests as Dane claims. Dane tells the story of the destruction of his [[DiMarco's planet|colony]] in neutral space by [[Julian DiMarco]], which he had withheld until the government turned its back on him.
*Patilla asks Dane for proof of his claims. Dane brings up the fact that ''Galactica'' was involved (although not by name) and says that the military should declassify its files. Patilla reacts negatively to this and declines to continue debating with Dane.
*As the crowd begins to jeer Patilla, Starbuck warns the other security team members that the situation is deteriorating. After attempting to contact Oehler, Starbuck drags Dane offstage, seconds before a bomb detonates behind the stage.
*Hadrian checks on Starbuck and Dane before heading to find Oehler. She finds several bodies and Oehler, suffering from a gun shot to the leg. Oehler tells her that there was a bomber dressed as a security guard, and he was shot by the bomber when he tried to stop the bomber.
*Outside the building, Dane is in an ambulance where [[Number Five|Doral]] and [[Number Four|Simon]], disguised as medics, tell him that they are like minded individuals who are willing to help Dane on his terms. Dane believes that they are behind the bombing, but Five tells him that they can insure his safety. The two leave as Oehler is brought into the ambulance. They meet with Six, Three, and Leoben and inform that the meeting was a success.
*In orbit, Boomer's Raptor lands on ''Galactica'', carrying Oehler and Dane.
*In Adama's quarters, Dane and Adama talk. Adama says that he cannot support Dane's cause without jeopardizing the future of ''Galactica'''s crew. Suddenly, main power shuts off/
*In the [[CIC]], Tigh and [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] try to determine the cause of the power failure, while security arrives at Adama's quarters to protect Dane.
*Down in the main utilities, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] and [[Cally Tyrol|Cally]] find nothing amiss, causing Cally to ask if it was just an accident. Tyrol does not think so, and sends Cally to get a security team.
*As Cally walks off, a man crawls into a service passageway and begin manipulating a control panel.

==Notes==
*This issue perpetuates the error that ''Galactica'' deployed [[Viper Mk II]]s before the attack on the Twelve Colonies. However, a [[Viper Mk VII]] can be seen in the hanger bay undergoing maintenance.
*The service passageway at the end of the comic is similar to Jefferies Tubes of ''Star Trek'' fame.

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ08CovHerbert.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]]'s preliminary cover art.
Image:TNBSGSeason08PhotoCov.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C109248.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 8'' - Regular Edition]

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Battlestar Galactica: Origins 6

2008-06-12T21:41:51Z

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{{Comic Data
| image = BSGOrig06PhotoCov.jpg
| title=Origins #6
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=6
| episode=
| writer= [[Robert Napton]]
| penciller= [[Jonathan Lau]]
| inker=
| colorist=
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Jonathan Lau
| published= March 2008
| collects=
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| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Origins 5]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Origins 7]]
}}
==Plot==
The second issue of the four-part miniseries that explores the life of [[William Adama]]. Starting several years since the [[Battlestar Galactica: Origins 5|previous issue]], Lieutenant William "Husker" Adama continues serving aboard ''[[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]'', before his promotion to Captain and assignment to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''

==Summary==
*Two years after the the end of the [[First Cylon War]], Adama approaches ''[[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]'' for his thousandth landing. Because of the occasion, Adama has a special LSO: a man name Ratchet. As Ratchet signals for Adama to slow down, Adama instead accelerates his [[Viper Mk II|Viper]] before landing.
*In the commander's office, Adama receives captain rank insignia before being told that he is being mustered out of the Fleet.
*In quarter's cleaning out his locker, Adama finds a picture of him with [[Alexa Cain]] and has a flashback to events six weeks after the end of the war.
*Aboard ''Galactica'', Adama and Cain are told that a group of Annihilators has been located at a base codenamed Trinity-the same base that Adama and [[Lucky]] flew over.
*After the briefing, Cain demands to know whether Adama's head is in the game, having noticed Adama's visible reaction in the briefing and hearing things from a pilot named Houseman. Adama replies that it could be because he made a "bad call," and Cain reassures him that everyone has had such moments.
*Suddenly, a Cylon Heavy Raider jumps in close to ''Galactica''. The commander realizes that they are Annihilators and calls for the alert Vipers to be launched.
*The Raider lands in the starboard flight pod and [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] disembark, killing personnel as they make their way through the ship. ''Galactica'''s commander orders a distress call to be sent out.
*As Cain and Adama make their way through the ship, they encounter a group of officers before the Cylons disable the lights and phones. The group makes their way to a small arms locker, knowing that there are Cylons heading their way.
*The battlestars ''Ulysses'' and ''Cerberus'', along with their battlestar groups arrive to aid ''Galactica'' while Cylons enter [[Aft Damage Control]], killing everyone there before proceeding to vent compartments to space. In the weapons locker, Cain orders everyone to put on EVA suits.
*Meanwhile, the Cylons arm a nuclear warhead and use it to heavily damage one of the other battlestars. As Cain and Adama's group approach Aft Damage Control, they encounter scores of dead crew members. They arrive at Aft Damage Control, only to find a Centurion guarding the hatch and at least four others inside.
*Cain and Adama have only three explosive rounds between them, not enough to kill all the Centurions. Knowing that she may die, Cain tells Adama to deliver two letters in her locker: one for her parents, one for her daughter [[Helena Cain|Helena]].
*On Cain's signal, the group attacks, killing one Centurion immediately. The remaining Centurions retaliate, leading to an intense battle between both sides. Adama tosses a small bomb into Aft Damage Control and detonates it by hitting it with gunfire, destroying the two remaining Centurions inside.
*As Adama restores air flow to the [[CIC]], a damaged Centurion impales Cain on its blade before Adama finishes it off. Adama goes over to a dieing Cain, telling him why she wanted to be part of the mission to stop the Annihilators: she felt guilty about not being with her family on [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]]. Her last words to Adama are a reminder to send her letters.
*The flashback ends as Adama is told that a [[Raptor]] is ready to take him off ''Atlantia''. Adama boards the Raptor and steels himself to face an uncertain future.

== Notes ==
* As shown in "[[Razor]]", William Adama was a lieutenant at the time of the first Cylon War, not a captain.
*The Heavy Raider in this issue is almost identical to the later [[Heavy Raider]], although the cockpit design is more in line with contemporary Raiders. It may also lack the modern Raider's forward guns, however, the artwork makes it impossible to be clear on the issue.
*Many of the events that occurred during ''Galactica'''s boarding are similar to those in "[[Valley of Darkness]]". However, the Cylons here are more successful than in the episode, since they manage to vent '''Galactica'''s atmosphere and use the ship's weapons to damage a Colonial warship before being destroyed.
*Another difference between the comic and "[[Valley of Darkness]]" is the fact that the Cylons disable the phones in the comic, despite them being sound powered.
*The sidearms used by Colonial personnel resemble the design used since season 2 of the series, instead of the Miniseries/season 1 version that was seen in the "[[Razor Flashbacks]]".

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGOrig06LaucovNotFinal.jpg|[[Jonathan Lau]] cover.
Image:BSGOrig06PhotoCov.jpg|Photo cover featuring [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[William Adama]].
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C109505.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Origins 6'' - Regular Edition] at Dynamite Entertainment

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2

2008-01-27T22:05:22Z

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{{Comic Data
| image = BSGComic Season Zero 2.jpg
| title=Season Zero 2
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=0
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker= inLight Studio
| colorist=
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Stephen Segovia
| published=August, 2007
| collects=
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 1]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3]]
}}

==Summary==

*[[Julian DiMarco]] tells of the events preceding ''[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 0]]'', particularly of the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] ordering the bombing of a separatist settlement disguised by the bombing of several other areas. Later DiMarco learns from his Fleet liaison that upon returning to colonial space, he and his crew would be prosecuted by the colonial justice system.

*After organizing a crew vote, DiMarco deliberately crash landed the ship so they could live on [[DiMarco's planet|the planet]]. The [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] arrived several hours later.

*[[William Adama]] becomes enraged at DiMarco's fatalism, stating that the DiMarco he knew would have tried to clean the system. DiMarco replies that cleaning the system is impossible, before remarking that he knows what matters while Adama does not.

*Adama has a flashback to when [[Lee Adama|Lee]] and [[Zak Adama|Zak]] came to his military office on leave, inviting him to take some time off at a cabin. After commenting on Zak's simulator scores, Lee becomes enraged at Adama, who tries to reschedule the trip later the next week. Lee and Zak leave, ending the flashback.

*A [[Raptor]] arrives, bringing [[Byron Dane]], apparently the only survivor from the settlement. Dane assumes that DiMarco and his crew are military, which he denies. Dane becomes convinced DiMarco bombed the settlement under orders of President [[Richard Adar|Adar]], but Adama defuses the situation by blaming the Cylons.

*On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', Tigh deploys two Raptors: [[Raptor 339|339]] and [[Raptor 340|340]]. 339 is piloted by [[Karl Agathon]]. Tigh stresses the importance of the mission before the Raptors [[jump]].

*On the planet, Adama and DiMarco talk, eventually leading to Adama relating how he [[Hero|violated]] the [[Armistice Line]]. Several seconds later, they are attacked by a new [[Raider (RDM)|Raider]], which fires missiles before strafing with gunfire. Adama and a [[marine]] supply cover fire while the Raptor tries to take off. The pilot decides to make an FTL jump after the Raider gets a weapons lock.

*The Raider pursues the Raptor, which jumped to higher altitude and damages it with its guns. The crew bails out before the Raptor explodes, while the Raider is destroyed by the two Raptors from ''Galactica''. Some time later, Adama departs after providing DiMarco's crew with supplies, bring Dane with them.

*One week later, Adama is in a meeting with several members of the admiralty, going over his after action report. Adama threatens to go public with the colony bombing and the encounters with the Cylons if court martialed.

*Back on ''Galactica'', Adama sits in his quarters and has a flashback to fight between him and [[Carolanne Adama|his wife]] over Zak's death. Tigh enters and asks about his meeting, which resulted in Adama getting in his usual amount of trouble. Tigh asks about Adama's motives in letting DiMarco's crew stay behind. Adama says that it was because of ''[[Valkyrie]]'s'' mission and Bulldog.

*As Tigh leaves, Adama receives a call from his wife stating that she's filing for divorce. At the same time, a Raptor lands on ''Galactica'', bringing [[Felix Gaeta]], [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Llewellyn|some]] [[Davis (comic)|other]] personnel aboard.

== Notes ==
*Colonial Expeditionary Fleet regularly equips its ships with bombs for mining, fault line exploration, and path clearing.
*Byron Dane is seen to be using the standard Colonial sidearm seen since Season 2.
*''Galactica'' is seen to be deploying [[Viper Mk II|Viper Mk IIs]], despite ''Galactica's'' last operational squadron being comprised of [[Viper Mk VII|Viper Mk VIIs]] in the [[Miniseries]].

== Analysis ==

* The comic series also ignores the continuity gaffe created by "[[Hero]]", inferring that ''[[Valkyrie]]'''s mission occurred two years before the [[Fall of the Colonies]], and not the one year as stated in that episode. This acknowledges dialogue about Adama having served with Thrace and Valerii for two years on ''Galactica'', but still conflicts with lines stating that Gaeta and Tyrol served under him for three and five years respectively. See also [[Hero#Analysis]].

== Questions ==
*When did the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] learn of the separatist settlement?
*Why did the admiralty want the settlement destroyed?
*Why did the Raider fire only one missile, instead of emptying its missile launchers?
*What happened to Byron Dane?
*What will the admiralty do now that they know that DiMarco is on the planet? Will they try to destroy DiMarco's settlement as well in another black ops mission? Or will they let it be?
*What happened to DiMarco's crew during and/or after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|destruction of the colonies]]? ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5|Answer]])

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSea02batistacover.jpg|[[Adriano Batista]] cover.
Image:BSGS02batistasketchco.jpg|Adriano Batista sketch cover.
Image:BSGS02sejiccov.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSea02photocover.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C107729.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2'' - Regular Edition]

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4

2008-01-27T22:04:11Z

Kregano: /* Questions */

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{{Comic Data
| image = BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg
| title=Season Zero 4
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=4
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Jackson Herbert
| published=October 2007
| collects= B&W Sejic Sketch Retailer Incentive Cover
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5]]
}}

==Summary==
*Following the events of [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3|previous issue]], [[Ripper]] and the other surviving pilots return to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' with orders to see Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] immediately.
*On his way to the ready room, Adama is briefed on [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Karl Agathon|Helo]]'s status by [[Gaeta]], who reports that the [[Raptor]] is getting farther out of range and that all attempts at communication have failed.
*Ripper informs Adama that [[Christa Nolan]] was a plant and that Starbuck and Helo disobeyed orders to pursue [[Unknown craft (RDM comics)#Raptor-like craft|the ship]] that Nolan and [[Darja Purat]] escaped on.
*Somewhere near a planet, the Raptor and the terrorist vessel emerge from their jumps. Starbuck reactivates the Raptor's transponder in order to alert ''Galactica'' to their position.
*On the terrorist vessel, Nolan urges the pilots to lose the Raptor or destroy it. While Helo and Starbuck discuss their next move, the vessels jumps behind them.
*In order to evade, Starbuck suggests performing an "[[embry drop]]". With the enemy vessel pursuing them and firing at them, they dive the Raptor in to the atmosphere of the planet, before crashing into the canopy of a forest. The terrorist vessel breaks off and heads towards a mountain.
*On ''Galactica'', [[Dualla]] attempts to contact the Raptor after receiving its transponder signal. Gaeta reports to Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] that the Raptor's signal was last tracked to the atmosphere of [[Sagittaron]]'s outermost moon.
*Adama enters the [[CIC]] and informs Tigh that Colonial Intelligence will be getting involved again and that their agent has arrived on ''Galactica''. They head to flight deck, where the agent immediately demands to talk with Adama in his office.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo exit their Raptor. As Helo comments on how to properly execute an embry drop, he steps on some weak branches, causing him and the Raptor with Starbuck in it to fall to the forest floor. Starbuck is unharmed and promptly retrieves a large suit case before heading off towards the mountain.
*In Adama's office, Agent [[Levin]] informs Adama that he is on ''Galactica'' to deal with the current situation, in a way that will probably require raising the limit of acceptable loses, specifically Helo and Starbuck. Adama replies that he could come up a great many plans that would not require sacrificing them.
*Levin comments on Adama's actions in the first three issues, before stating that he would consider any alternatives Adama came up with and that he would like to explore the ship. Adama agrees, with the only condition being that Levin cannot enter the CIC without him.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo examine their survival gear in the rain. Along with normal things like food, medical supplies, and tools, their gear has two assault rifles and a sniper rifle.
*At the terrorist base, at the base of the mountain, Purjat watches Starbuck and Helo through a pair of binoculars. He soon leaves the room to meet a mysterious benefactor with Nolan. After some small talk, the benefactor goes outside to deal with Helo and Starbuck personally.
*Adama and Levin enter the CIC. Adama says that Levin will be overseeing the next part of the mission but Levin says that Adama is out of the loop before asking about ''Galactica'''s ability to launch nuclear missiles. Tigh and Gaeta attempt to lie, but Levin becomes enraged, ordering Adama to start pre-strike preparations.
*Adama refuses to comply, forcing Levin to order his men to take Adama to the brig. Tigh calls Marines to the CIC, but Adama orders them to stand down before he and Tigh are sent to the brig. Levin makes Gaeta acting XO and prepares to execute a nuclear strike on the moon.
*Outside the rebel base, Starbuck and Helo go over their plan before separating. Once Helo gets into position, he spots something, but is unable to inform Starbuck because someone puts a pistol to his head.
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== Notes ==
* As in previous issues, ''Galactica'' deploys [[Viper Mk II]]s, which have been retired and replaced by the more advanced [[Viper Mk VII]].
* [[Sagittaron (alternate)|Sagitarron]]'s outermost moon is inhabitable by humans and posses its own satellite.
* ''Galactica'' is able to track [[Kara Thrace]]'s and [[Karl Agathon]]'s [[Raptor]] as they briefly broadcast their transmitter in short bursts.
* The person who has Helo at gunpoint uses the Miniseries and Season 1 version of the Colonial sidearm.

== Questions ==
* How long has the base been on the moon?
* What are the motivations for using a nuclear strike on the moon?
* Is Levin a plant as well?
* Who is Purjat's mysterious benefactor and is he the one with the pistol at Helo's head? ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5|Answer]])
* What did Helo see before he was discovered?
* Will the nuclear strike actually happen?

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4herbertcov.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4photocoverBIG.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108235.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108236.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Foil Edition]

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4

2008-01-27T21:58:39Z

Kregano: /* Questions */

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|cont=Dynamite Comics}}

{{Comic Data
| image = BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg
| title=Season Zero 4
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=4
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Jackson Herbert
| published=October 2007
| collects= B&W Sejic Sketch Retailer Incentive Cover
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5]]
}}

==Summary==
*Following the events of [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3|previous issue]], [[Ripper]] and the other surviving pilots return to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' with orders to see Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] immediately.
*On his way to the ready room, Adama is briefed on [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Karl Agathon|Helo]]'s status by [[Gaeta]], who reports that the [[Raptor]] is getting farther out of range and that all attempts at communication have failed.
*Ripper informs Adama that [[Christa Nolan]] was a plant and that Starbuck and Helo disobeyed orders to pursue [[Unknown craft (RDM comics)#Raptor-like craft|the ship]] that Nolan and [[Darja Purat]] escaped on.
*Somewhere near a planet, the Raptor and the terrorist vessel emerge from their jumps. Starbuck reactivates the Raptor's transponder in order to alert ''Galactica'' to their position.
*On the terrorist vessel, Nolan urges the pilots to lose the Raptor or destroy it. While Helo and Starbuck discuss their next move, the vessels jumps behind them.
*In order to evade, Starbuck suggests performing an "[[embry drop]]". With the enemy vessel pursuing them and firing at them, they dive the Raptor in to the atmosphere of the planet, before crashing into the canopy of a forest. The terrorist vessel breaks off and heads towards a mountain.
*On ''Galactica'', [[Dualla]] attempts to contact the Raptor after receiving its transponder signal. Gaeta reports to Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] that the Raptor's signal was last tracked to the atmosphere of [[Sagittaron]]'s outermost moon.
*Adama enters the [[CIC]] and informs Tigh that Colonial Intelligence will be getting involved again and that their agent has arrived on ''Galactica''. They head to flight deck, where the agent immediately demands to talk with Adama in his office.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo exit their Raptor. As Helo comments on how to properly execute an embry drop, he steps on some weak branches, causing him and the Raptor with Starbuck in it to fall to the forest floor. Starbuck is unharmed and promptly retrieves a large suit case before heading off towards the mountain.
*In Adama's office, Agent [[Levin]] informs Adama that he is on ''Galactica'' to deal with the current situation, in a way that will probably require raising the limit of acceptable loses, specifically Helo and Starbuck. Adama replies that he could come up a great many plans that would not require sacrificing them.
*Levin comments on Adama's actions in the first three issues, before stating that he would consider any alternatives Adama came up with and that he would like to explore the ship. Adama agrees, with the only condition being that Levin cannot enter the CIC without him.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo examine their survival gear in the rain. Along with normal things like food, medical supplies, and tools, their gear has two assault rifles and a sniper rifle.
*At the terrorist base, at the base of the mountain, Purjat watches Starbuck and Helo through a pair of binoculars. He soon leaves the room to meet a mysterious benefactor with Nolan. After some small talk, the benefactor goes outside to deal with Helo and Starbuck personally.
*Adama and Levin enter the CIC. Adama says that Levin will be overseeing the next part of the mission but Levin says that Adama is out of the loop before asking about ''Galactica'''s ability to launch nuclear missiles. Tigh and Gaeta attempt to lie, but Levin becomes enraged, ordering Adama to start pre-strike preparations.
*Adama refuses to comply, forcing Levin to order his men to take Adama to the brig. Tigh calls Marines to the CIC, but Adama orders them to stand down before he and Tigh are sent to the brig. Levin makes Gaeta acting XO and prepares to execute a nuclear strike on the moon.
*Outside the rebel base, Starbuck and Helo go over their plan before separating. Once Helo gets into position, he spots something, but is unable to inform Starbuck because someone puts a pistol to his head.
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== Notes ==
* As in previous issues, ''Galactica'' deploys [[Viper Mk II]]s, which have been retired and replaced by the more advanced [[Viper Mk VII]].
* [[Sagittaron (alternate)|Sagitarron]]'s outermost moon is inhabitable by humans and posses its own satellite.
* ''Galactica'' is able to track [[Kara Thrace]]'s and [[Karl Agathon]]'s [[Raptor]] as they briefly broadcast their transmitter in short bursts.
* The person who has Helo at gunpoint uses the Miniseries and Season 1 version of the Colonial sidearm.

== Questions ==
* How long has the base been on the moon?
* What are the motivations for using a nuclear strike on the moon?
* Is Levin a plant as well?
* Who is Purjat's mysterious benefactor and is he the one with the pistol at Helo's head? (Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5#Summary|Answer)
* What did Helo see before he was discovered?
* Will the nuclear strike actually happen?

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4herbertcov.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4photocoverBIG.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108235.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108236.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Foil Edition]

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Comics]]
[[Category:Dynamite Comics]]

Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5

2008-01-27T21:57:13Z

Kregano:

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|cont=Dynamite Comics}}

{{Comic Data
| image =BSGSeason05photocover.jpg
| title=Season Zero 5
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=5
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Jackson Herbert
| published=November 2007
| collects=
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 6]]
}}

==Summary==
*Inside the terrorist base, [[Christa Nolan|Nolan]] and [[Darja Purat|Purat]] discuss what will happen after the revolution caused by their benefactor, who is revealed to be [[Julian DiMarco]].
*Outside, [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] finds out that the person holding him at gun point is [[Sil]], who tells him that DiMarco has gone insane and is planning a strike on the Colonies. Sil plans to take Helo prisoner and work from the inside and stop DiMarco's plan.
*On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', [[Dualla]] talks with someone about Levin but learns nothing useful. In the brig, [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] threatens the guard as the shift changes. [[William Adama|Adama]] tells him to relax and stop antagonizing the guards.
*Back on the moon, [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] sees Helo being lead into the base by Sil through the scope of her rifle.
*In ''Galactica'''s CIC, Levin becomes angry with the chief engineer and demands several reports. [[Felix Gaeta|Geata]] and Dualla talk about Levin before Gaeta hands Dualla duty rosters to post, in order to get her out of the CIC. Levin intercepts her before she can exit and inquires about the changes in the duty rosters, but lets Dualla leave so he can look at the ship's nuclear payload.
*Inside the terrorist base, DiMarco tells Nolan and Purat that the objective of the revolution is to purify the system, not destroy it. Sil brings in Helo and DiMarco comments on Starbuck being outside waiting to shoot him.
*Nolan informs DiMarco that Helo was in the group she set up and that Helo is unintelligent. DiMarco mentions that as long as Helo behaves well, no harm will come to him before Sil takes him to the holding room.
*As Sil and Helo leave, DiMarco tells Purat that things are going to move quickly and that "All the pieces have finally come together."
*Outside, Starbuck begins picking off personnel with her sniper rifle.
*On ''Galactica'', Dualla meets with Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]], Captain [[Spencer]], and Marine Sergeant Austin and informs them of the events that transpired in the CIC. Spencer suggests looking in the ship's main computer to find out who sent the order authorizing the nuclear strike on the moon.
*Dualla discovers that they are being fed bad information about the authorization to launch the nuke. Austin suggests they can take out Levin and his men under the Articles of War.
*In the terrorist base, Sil kills a guard who was escorting Helo with before being shot in the back by Nolan. The gunshot attracts DiMarco and Purat. After Nolan tels DiMarco she shot Sil and why, he begins choking her as Purat tries to restrain him.
*DiMarco threatens to kill Nolan, prompting Purat to threaten to kill him if did so. In the chaos, Helo escapes.
*On ''Galactica'', Dualla and Austin bring food to brig. The guard outside tries to stop them, but Austin reminds him that under the Articles of War, prisoners are entitled to basic on schedule care.
*The guard submits, but does not allow them to go in, instead calling on the guard in the brig to take the food to Adama and Tigh. In their cell, Adama tells Tigh to watch the door as he takes the heel of off one of his shoes.
*Somewhere on ''Galactica'', an old man is working on a laptop when Tyrol (carrying a large wrench) and Spencer enter the room. The two offer the man a head start to run.
*Outside the terrorist base, Helo runs to the [[Unknown craft (RDM comics)#Raptor-like craft|terrorist vessel]] before finding someone holding a pistol to his head again.
*He looks and realizes that it is Starbuck, who informs him that she's been transmitting the ship's emergency beacon in hopes of alerting ''Galactica'' to their position. After Helo climbs in the ship, Starbuck kisses him since they are probably ae going to die.
*In the brig, the guard takes the food to Adama and Tigh and unlocks the cell, right before Adama kicks open the door and Austin points a rifle at the other guard. The guard in the brig attempts to get Adama and Tigh back into their cell, but is first punched in the face by Adama and dragged into the cell by Tigh in a headlock while Austin leads the other guard in.
*Dualla asks what will they do now and Adama replies, saying that they will retake the ship and rescue Starbuck and Helo.

== Notes ==
*Sil's pistol changes from a Season 1 "Colonial Calmshell" (as seen at the end of [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4|the previous issue]] to the Season 2 version of the standard sidearm.
*The Colonials have Articles of War which seem to similar to the Geneva Convention, at least in terms of the treatment of prisoners.
*In the first page set on ''Galactica'', it has been fifteen minutes since Levin took command from Adama and Tigh.

== Questions ==
*How did DiMarco get off of his [[DiMarco's planet|planet]]?
*Do all of DiMarco's crew besides Sil approve of his plan?
*Who was the man Tyrol and Spencer confronted and what was his job?
*How have DiMarco and his sympathizers managed to stay undetected by Colonial Intelligence?
*Exactly how does DiMarco intend to accomplish his goals? Is ''Galactica'' nuking the moon part of the plan?

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ05BatisaCov.jpg|[[Adriano Batista]] sketch cover.
Image:BSGSZ05HerbertCov.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]] sketch cover.
Image:BSGSeason05photocover.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108453.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108454.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5'' - Foil Edition]

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Comics]]
[[Category:Dynamite Comics]]

Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5

2008-01-27T21:53:44Z

Kregano:

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|cont=Dynamite Comics}}

{{Comic Data
| image =BSGSeason05photocover.jpg
| title=Season Zero 5
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=5
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Jackson Herbert
| published=November 2007
| collects=
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 6]]
}}

==Summary==
*Inside the terrorist base, [[Christa Nolan|Nolan]] and [[Darja Purat|Purat]] discuss what will happen after the revolution caused by their benefactor, who is revealed to be [[Julian DiMarco]].
*Outside, [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] finds out that the person holding him at gun point is [[Sil]], who tells him that DiMarco has gone insane and is planning a strike on the Colonies. Sil plans to take Helo prisoner and work from the inside and stop DiMarco's plan.
*On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', [[Dualla]] talks with someone about Levin but learns nothing useful. In the brig, [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] threatens the guard as the shift changes. [[William Adama|Adama]] tells him to relax and stop antagonizing the guards.
*Back on the moon, [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] sees Helo being lead into the base by Sil through the scope of her rifle.
*In ''Galactica'''s CIC, Levin becomes angry with the chief engineer and demands several reports. [[Felix Gaeta|Geata]] and Dualla talk about Levin before Gaeta hands Dualla duty rosters to post, in order to get her out of the CIC. Levin intercepts her before she can exit and inquires about the changes in the duty rosters, but lets Dualla leave so he can look at the ship's nuclear payload.
*Inside the terrorist base, DiMarco tells Nolan and Purat that the objective of the revolution is to purify the system, not destroy it. Sil brings in Helo and DiMarco comments on Starbuck being outside waiting to shoot him.
*Nolan informs DiMarco that Helo was in the group she set up and that Helo is unintelligent. DiMarco mentions that as long as Helo behaves well, no harm will come to him before Sil takes him to the holding room.
*As Sil and Helo leave, DiMarco tells Purat that things are going to move quickly and that "All the pieces have finally come together."
*Outside, Starbuck begins picking off personnel with her sniper rifle.
*On ''Galactica'', Dualla meets with Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]], Captain [[Spencer]], and Marine Sergeant Austin and informs them of the events that transpired in the CIC. Spencer suggests looking in the ship's main computer to find out who sent the order authorizing the nuclear strike on the moon.
*Dualla discovers that they are being fed bad information about the authorization to launch the nuke. Austin suggests they can take out Levin and his men under the Articles of War.
*In the terrorist base, Sil kills a guard who was escorting Helo with before being shot in the back by Nolan. The gunshot attracts DiMarco and Purat. After Nolan tels DiMarco she shot Sil and why, he begins choking her as Purat tries to restrain him.
*DiMarco threatens to kill Nolan, prompting Purat to threaten to kill him if did so. In the chaos, Helo escapes.
*On ''Galactica'', Dualla and Austin bring food to brig. The guard outside tries to stop them, but Austin reminds him that under the Articles of War, prisoners are entitled to basic on schedule care.
*The guard submits, but does not allow them to go in, instead calling on the guard in the brig to take the food to Adama and Tigh. In their cell, Adama tells Tigh to watch the door as he takes the heel of off one of his shoes.
*Somewhere on ''Galactica'', an old man is working on a laptop when Tyrol (carrying a large wrench) and Spencer enter the room. The two offer the man a head start to run.
*Outside the terrorist base, Helo runs to the [[Unknown craft (RDM Comics)|terrorist vessel]] before finding someone holding a pistol to his head again.
*He looks and realizes that it is Starbuck, who informs him that she's been transmitting the ship's emergency beacon in hopes of alerting ''Galactica'' to their position. After Helo climbs in the ship, Starbuck kisses him since they are probably ae going to die.
*In the brig, the guard takes the food to Adama and Tigh and unlocks the cell, right before Adama kicks open the door and Austin points a rifle at the other guard. The guard in the brig attempts to get Adama and Tigh back into their cell, but is first punched in the face by Adama and dragged into the cell by Tigh in a headlock while Austin leads the other guard in.
*Dualla asks what will they do now and Adama replies, saying that they will retake the ship and rescue Starbuck and Helo.

== Notes ==
*Sil's pistol changes from a Season 1 "Colonial Calmshell" (as seen at the end of [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4|the previous issue]] to the Season 2 version of the standard sidearm.
*The Colonials have Articles of War which seem to similar to the Geneva Convention, at least in terms of the treatment of prisoners.

== Questions ==
*How did DiMarco get off of is [[DiMarco's planet|planet]]?
*Do all of DiMarco's crew besides Sil approve of his plan?
*Who was the man Tyrol and Spencer confronted and what was his job?
*How have DiMarco and his sympathizers managed to stay undetected by Colonial Intelligence?
*Exactly how does DiMarco intend to accomplish his goals? Is ''Galactica'' nuking the moon part of the plan?

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ05BatisaCov.jpg|[[Adriano Batista]] sketch cover.
Image:BSGSZ05HerbertCov.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]] sketch cover.
Image:BSGSeason05photocover.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108453.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108454.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5'' - Foil Edition]

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Comics]]
[[Category:Dynamite Comics]]

Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5

2008-01-27T21:43:43Z

Kregano: /* Summary */

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|cont=Dynamite Comics}}

{{Comic Data
| image =BSGSeason05photocover.jpg
| title=Season Zero 5
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=5
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Jackson Herbert
| published=November 2007
| collects=
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 6]]
}}

==Summary==
*Inside the terrorist base, [[Christa Nolan|Nolan]] and [[Darja Purat|Purat]] discuss what will happen after the revolution caused by their benefactor, who is revealed to be [[Julian DiMarco]].
*Outside, [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] finds out that the person holding him at gun point is [[Sil]], who tells him that DiMarco has gone insane and is planning a strike on the Colonies. Sil plans to take Helo prisoner and work from the inside and stop DiMarco's plan.
*On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', [[Dualla]] talks with someone about Levin but learns nothing useful. In the brig, [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] threatens the guard as the shift changes. [[William Adama|Adama]] tells him to relax and stop antagonizing the guards.
*Back on the moon, [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] sees Helo being lead into the base by Sil through the scope of her rifle.
*In ''Galactica'''s CIC, Levin becomes angry with the chief engineer and demands several reports. [[Felix Gaeta|Geata]] and Dualla talk about Levin before Gaeta hands Dualla duty rosters to post, in order to get her out of the CIC. Levin intercepts her before she can exit and inquires about the changes in the duty rosters, but lets Dualla leave so he can look at the ship's nuclear payload.
*Inside the terrorist base, DiMarco tells Nolan and Purat that the objective of the revolution is to purify the system, not destroy it. Sil brings in Helo and DiMarco comments on Starbuck being outside waiting to shoot him.
*Nolan informs DiMarco that Helo was in the group she set up and that Helo is unintelligent. DiMarco mentions that as long as Helo behaves well, no harm will come to him before Sil takes him to the holding room.
*As Sil and Helo leave, DiMarco tells Purat that things are going to move quickly and that "All the pieces have finally come together."
*Outside, Starbuck begins picking off personnel with her sniper rifle.
*On ''Galactica", Dualla meets with Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]], Captain [[Spencer]], and Marine Sergeant Austin and informs them of the events that transpired in the CIC. Spencer suggests looking in the ship's main computer to find out who sent the order authorizing the nuclear strike on the moon.
*Dualla discovers that they are being fed bad information about the authorization to launch the nuke. Austin suggests they can take out Levin and his men under the Articles of War.
*In the terrorist base, Sil kills a guard who was escorting Helo with before being shot in the back by Nolan. The gunshot attracts DiMarco and Purat. After Nolan tels DiMarco she shot Sil and why, he begins choking her as Purat tries to restrain him.
*DiMarco threatens to kill Nolan, prompting Purat to threaten to kill him if did so. In the chaos, Helo escapes.
*On ''Galactica'', Dualla and Austin bring food to brig. The guard outside tries to stop them, but Austin reminds him that under the Articles of War, prisoners are entitled to basic on schedule care.
*The guard submits, but does not allow them to go in, instead calling on the guard in the brig to take the food to Adama and Tigh. In their cell, Adama tells Tigh to watch the door as he takes the heel of off one of his shoes.
*Somewhere on ''Galactica'', an old man is working on a laptop when Tyrol (carrying a large wrench) and Spencer enter the room. The two offer the man a head start to run.
*Outside the terrorist base, Helo runs to the [[Unknown craft (RDM Comics)#Raptor-like craft|terrorist vessel]] before finding someone holding a pistol to his head again.
*He looks and realizes that it is Starbuck, who informs him that she's been transmitting the ship's emergency beacon in hopes of alerting ''Galactica'' to their position. After Helo climbs in the ship, Starbuck kisses him since they are probably ae going to die.
*In the brig, the guard takes the food to Adama and Tigh and unlocks the cell, right before Adama kicks open the door and Austin points a rifle at the other guard. The guard in the brig attempts to get Adama and Tigh back into their cell, but is first punched in the face by Adama and dragged into the cell by Tigh in a headlock while Austin leads the other guard in.
*Dualla asks what will they do now and Adama replies, saying that they will retake the ship and rescue Starbuck and Helo.

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ05BatisaCov.jpg|[[Adriano Batista]] sketch cover.
Image:BSGSZ05HerbertCov.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]] sketch cover.
Image:BSGSeason05photocover.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108453.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108454.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5'' - Foil Edition]

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Comics]]
[[Category:Dynamite Comics]]

Talk:Galactica type battlestar/Archive 1

2008-01-14T01:51:46Z

Kregano:

:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Galactica_type_battlestar&oldid=47676 April 17, 2006]
== Medical Capabilites of a Battlestar ==

Peter,

Your assertion of "unfound speculation" concerning my contribution is uninformed and unfounded. I am a military medical planner and a published author. My assertion of the potential medical capabilities and requirements of an intergalactic warship (modeled on a US aircraft carrier), while hypothetical, is informed. Keep in mind these are requirements that the ship would have originally been built (not the "as is" state). At this point in the story line, clearly Major Cottle is the only doctor on Galactica, however we have never seen the Pegasus medical bay or any of its medical personnel. With established industrial facilities on Pegasus (Viper production established in “Scar”), the Pegasus would have evn greater Occupational Health / Preventive Medicine than Galactica. And if you do a walk down of the ancillary services (pharmacy (camala extract), orthopedic and x-ray (Kara’s knee injury), optometry (ADM Adama’s glasses), etc, you will see they exist even if they are not portrayed. Additionally, it was an Intensive Care Unit (ICU) bed, complete with ventilator, which William Adama was in during his multiple surgeries (establishing an Operation Room (OR)).

Capital ships are designed to go into battle, which means they will take damage and casualties. Often it is the ability to regenerate / repair / refit in the quickest amount of time that determines the outcome of battles. General Nathan Bedford Forrest of the Confederate States of America is famous for the quote, “He who gets there the fastest with the mostest wins.” RDM makes reference to his experience onboard a Navy ship in podcasts, including “The Captain’s Hand”. Thus, there is an established framework present.

I provide you two active hyperlinks that back up my contribution. While dated, they are still relevant.

http://www.mfp.usmc.mil/TeamApp/G4/Topics/20040916154046/Med%20Cont%20Factbook.pdf

www.iiimef.usmc.mil/medical/ FMF/FMFE/FMFEref/fs_man/CHAPTER%2014.html

--[[User:Killerman|Killerman]] 20:26, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

:I have no doubt that you are well qualified to speak about the medical capabilities of an aircraft carrier. I dispute their relevance to BSG, however. while they might provide a good baseline for guesswork, I don't think that simple guesswork belongs on this site. We don't extrapolate armament details based on the capabilities of modern naval vessels, for example. If you wanted, I wouldn't object to something along the lines of "we may conjecture that the medical facilities of a colonial battlestar are roughly comparable to those of a modern aircraft carrier" with one of the links you provided above; but I will not agree to listing out detailed specifications based on no in-continuity data. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:37, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

::''At last I went to the artisans. I was conscious that I knew nothing at all, as I may say, and I was sure that they knew many fine things; and here I was not mistaken, for they did know many things of which I was ignorant, and in this they certainly were wiser than I was. But I observed that even the good artisans fell into error;--because they were good workmen they thought that they also knew all sorts of high matters, and this defect in them overshadowed their wisdom;''
:::''The Apology of Socrates'', Plato

::Sir, none of us doubt that you know what you are talking about when you list the medical capabilities of a modern aicraft carrier. But this does not grant you increased insight into the inner logic of the tv series: First, we have no idea how many medical staff are onboard, and comparing it to an aircraft carrier is just speculation. Second, we have no idea how many crewmen a Mercury class battlestar normally has, as has been asked in the "Questions" segment of the "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]" episode guide article: Pegasus has 1,750 crewmen when it encounters Galactica, but A) It was going into drydock, and some of the crew may have left to the port, B) 700 crewmen died in the initial attack C) Cain impressed civillians she encounteed into service and most importantly C) Cain was fighting a hit and run war against the Cylons for months, which wore down her crew numbers through attrition. But I digress. Yes, we should object to a statement like "we may conjecture that medical facilities of a colonial battlestar are roughly comparable to those of a modern aircraft carrier". --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 21:41, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

:::I guess you can object to that too, if you want. I was trying to compromise. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:48, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I'm sorry Peter but this is a really good example of the speculation I don't think we should be inserting into this kind of article. There is nothing to be gained from such a compromise. I would if there were, and would like to, but I can't change facts. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 21:51, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

Peter,

As I am preparing to deploy for a year, please forgive me as I have packed all my BSG video. I grant you that the personnel numbers for a fully manned battlestar are informed speculation based upon a comparison to a modern aircraft carrier. I use these numbers as RDM has referenced a battlestar to a modern carrier, his experience in the Navy (podcast for The Captain’s Hand), Galactica type battlestar – article – dimensions’ jpg comparing a Battlestar to a CVN Image:Bsg-2-cvn.jpg on this very page. My professional training drives me to fill in unknowns with assumptions. That is what the personnel piece was intended and is consistent with other speculation within the Wiki, so long as it is said to be speculation (i.e. the actual working of an FTL drive). But sticking to the medical capabilities known from “in country (your term)” knowledge (i.e. seen on screen or in dialogue), we know much about Galactica. First, Galactica has a sickbay (Act of Contrition, Litmus). Exact bed count is not known, but is greater than seven (Act of Contrition). Based upon the burn victims (Act of Contrition) and treatment of William Adama (Scattered, Valley of Darkness, Fragged), we have seen Intensive Care Unit (ICU) beds, complete with ventilators, electrocardiograms (ECG), pulse / respiration / pulseox (shows percent of oxygen saturation dissolved in blood) monitors. We also have seen at least on operation room (OR) (Fragged), and subsequently confirm its existence with Kara Thrace’s knee surgery (Litmus) and Lee Adama’s chest surgery (Sacrifice). Concerning the radiology suite, we saw a Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI – incidentally, a very advanced piece of equipment) when Baltar had Dr. Cottle examine his head looking for an implanted chip (sorry, don’t remember the episode). We also saw conventional (chest) x-rays of Commander William Adama, during his surgery (Fragged, Scattered). We heard about Sharon’s ultrasound, as part of pre-natal health on Hera, where Dr. Cottle found an abnormality. And while not part of radiology, Hera, is placed in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) incubator, when is born prematurely. Next, we know it has a pharmacy. The President asked Dr. Cottle for Camala, the Viper pilots were taking “stims” (33, Final Cut) and Kara is taking pain killers for her knee surgery (Litmus) and latter asks Lee for antibiotics for Anders (Lay Down Your Burdens – Part II). Additionally, with the surgeries and burn victims, there are other pharmacological needs and a pharmacy is where these things dwell. Other areas that we have seen or know about are a morgue, where Galactica-Boomer was stored; a laboratory (to do support simple blood type and matching to support surgery), optometry with a fabrication lab (William Adama wears glasses and as stated in other areas of this site, battlestars are designed for sustained operations). We are also can infer that Galactica has some preventive medicine / occupational health capability because in “Water”, there was a discussion about water recycling (leading to potable water). It is Preventive Medicine that does this task.

I would like to add that RDM and SciFi do a heck of a job weaving into the background all these things. As an experienced health services officer with over 22 years in the health care field, there is a tremendous amount of detail that happens in the background. If I was a casual observer, I might miss or not care about some of these things. As someone headed into harms way, I assure you that our fighting forces moral is impacted combat health support. I absolutely belive we need to address the medical capabilities of a battle star. The propose the best way is start with what it would look like at full strenght / desired capability. Clearly, Season 3 will start with two grossly undermanned battlestars, with very limited offensive combat capability.--[[User:Killerman|Killerman]] 22:10, 16 April 2006 (CDT)

:The citations you've provided make it much easier to include this information, and I thank you for taking the time to write this all out. The addition should improve the article considerably. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:21, 16 April 2006 (CDT)

::I am sorry, but this doesn't change much: the above information was gleaned from things we've seen on screen, and is thus informative and useful. However, the original entry to this article he made (speculative medical numbers, etc.)...isn't supported by any of these citations. Basically, they're two separate issues and should be treated separately. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 00:48, 17 April 2006 (CDT)

:::Reverting to Killerman's last version isn't a good idea, but he (or we) can refactor his contribution using the points and evidence he raised above. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:57, 17 April 2006 (CDT)

::::Oh yes yes, something new and revised. Yes. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 01:24, 17 April 2006 (CDT)

== Manufacture vs. Assembly of Ammunition ==
The "assembly" activities that take place in [[Epiphanies]] would fall into the realm of "production", depending on how you look at it. It seemed like they were loading the casings (I thought RDM said they were going to use caseless ammo) with powder, seating the primer and inserting the bullet, turning the various components into a cartridge. Whether or not they produced the individual components (metal for bullets and casings would be easy, compounds for primers and powder probably harder to obtain), the act of putting those bits together would often be considered "manufacturing" ammunition. Not a big deal, and I didn't even change the text (since it's pretty debatable). An example of this use of the word is in this [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4044-2004Jul21_2.html Washington Post Article]:

"''Israeli Military Industries said the ammunition will be manufactured in Israel but the raw materials, including propellants, projectiles and primers, come from U.S. sources.''
"

Once again, not trying to start a war, just wanted to weigh in on a subject I knew a little about (since they so rarely come up). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:02, 17 April 2006 (CDT)

== Picture of destroyed Galactica-type Battlestar ==
Though certainly a model of a Galactica-type was used for the shot, it's clearly mentioned at the very beginning of the miniseries that ''Galactica'' is the only ship of it's kind still in service. The story places the shot only hours after the beginning of the attack, so it should be impossible that another Galactica-type (museum or mothballed in a reserve-fleet) could be readied for battle. Shouldn't the destroyed battlestar be taken as one of a third class between the Galactica-Type and Mercury-class, still looking a lot like the Galactica-type? [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 13:39, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:That was my impulse. Story logic dictates that the destroyed hulk probably wasn't a Galactica type, but in the real world we can surmise that Zoic probably re-used the Galactica model. Of course, from that distance, we could fudge our interpretation either way. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:50, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
::They don't necessarily mean that there are no Galactica type battlestars in service besides the Big-G, it could be taken to mean none like Galactica, eg. non-refitted, no networks, etc. The battlestar there could easily (and belivably) be a refitted Galactica type. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:22, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
::I concur with Talos, and that has been my understanding. Besides, unless the ship was simply overwhelmed by Cylon military brawn, an old-Cylon War battlestar would put up the same level of fight as ''Galactica'' would have. Else, it was just as vulnerable as the new battlestars. I agree, cinematically, that that Galactica model was just reused.--[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:59, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:::[http://www.skyone.co.uk/programme/pgefeature.aspx?pid=3&fid=642 Something to ask] the big man himself? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 14:34, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I'll do that in a little bit, I have to pick up my brother from his band practice in a minute. The life of a college student living at home... --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:36, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I really doubt he's going to take the time to clarify such a niggling detail. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:39, 24 April 2006 (CDT)

It has always been my belief that Doral meant it was the only Galactica-type battlestar never refited. I always point to the ''U.S.S. Missouri'' (Mighty 'Mo) as an example of a ship with over 50 years of combat service that just kept getting refitted over time to the point that it was firing satellite-targeted cruise missiles at the end of its service. I think Galactica was just the only one that was never refitted. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:57, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:My point exactly. It's like the WWII era Essex class carriers. There were refits that were completly rebuilt but a few, essentially, originals survived until the early 1960s with the others serving thru Vietnam ([[Wikipedia:USS Oriskany (CVA-34)|USS Oriskany (CVA-34)]] for example). The [[Wikipedia:USS Lexington (CV-16)|USS Lexington (CV-16)]] was in service as a training ship until 1991! --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:26, 24 April 2006 (CDT)

::It's exactly the ''USS Missouri''-example why I believe that ''Galactica'' is the last of it's class: All four ''Iowa''-Class battleships were updated and they all were finally decommissoned (for now) between 1990 and 1992. If the ''Galactica'' is simply the only one not refitted one would have to ask why that wasn't done. Why would one refit three ''Iowas'' but not the last one? This usually only happens if a ship is somehow different from her sisters (e.g. having sustained heavy battledamage the refit is more expensive and not worth the effort). Also it could be that the fleet is being downsized, no longer needing all ships. An example for this would be the British [[Wikipedia:Illustrious class aircraft carrier|''Illustrious''-Class]] of World War II. Of these three carriers only one received an angled flight-deck, surviving the scrapping of the other two for twenty years. But in all these cases I find it hard to believe that anyone would describe one of the ships decommissioned first as ''the last of it's kind still in service'' if there others (refitted or not) still in action. Which ''Iowa'' would have been described that way prior to it's decommissioning: ''Iowa'' in 1990 or ''Missouri'' in 1992? Wasn't ''Lexington'' the last ''Essex''?
::What Doral says before and after that statement makes it quite clear that he's not talking about a certain detail (like ''last of it's kind without a network'' would have been). He starts with ''worldfamous Battlestar Galactica'', then ''last of her kind still in service'' followed by ''constructed 50 years ago as one of the first twelve battlestars, representing Caprica''. The only possible explanation for other Galactica-types this leaves would be ''Galactica'' being the last of the first twelve, with other Galactica-types coming from a second batch no longer representing specific colonys. But even then "last of her kind" is an usual choice of words to describe that. [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 17:13, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:::Well said. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:04, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I think it is still ambiguous, and we should wait for an RDM blog reply before changing anything. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 20:54, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::I doubt RDM will respond to this issue, and I think the safest course of action would just be to remove it. There's sufficient reason to doubt that the hulk isn't a galactica-type that we shouldn't take a firm position on the issue. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:22, 25 April 2006 (CDT)
:::The motivation for no refit to ''Galactica'' could be nostaliga or historical preservation, explaining the odd wording; for such a purpose, only the unaltered version would count. ...Don't get the impression I believe that just because I said it. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 20:56, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:Not to mention Adama, "It's a computer network and I'll be damned if I'll let it aboard my ship while I'm in command." (Paraphrased)--[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:01, 24 April 2006 (CDT)
:We don't even know for sure if the destroyed battlestar was even in service. It could have been decommissioned earlier and be acting like a museum, just like Galactica was supposed to be. That would also explain its quick destruction. (It snapped cleanly in half). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 09:01, 13 January 2007 (CST)
::It could easily be in service still. In the Russian (and former Soviet) navy, there is a class of destroyers called the [[w:Udaloy class destroyer|Udaloy]]. The last of the class was heavily refitted and updated, bringing it up almost to Burke class levels. The important thing here is that there are still unrefitted ones in service (there was only enough money to upgrade one, the Admiral Chabenko). Then again, there is the Fletcher/Sumner class destroyers. The main differences were the gun armament (5x1 5" in Fletcher, 3x2 5" in Sumner), and the Sumner's twin rudders. Same hull and most of the superstructure. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:13, 13 January 2007 (CST)

== Crew numbers ==

How do we know a fully manned and equipped battlestar has a crew of 4,000 to 5,000? Was it said in some episode or where do these numbers come from? I'm updating the [[de:Kampfstern, Galactica-Typ|german battlestar article]] and I don't like to use data that seems to be made up out of thin air. The links and notes provided don't give any hint about the normal crew number of a battlestar of this type. We apologise for any inconvenience. -- [[User:Astfgl|Astfgl]] 16:03, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
:In the Miniseries, Tyrol says that there are over 2,000 people on Galactica. The ships seems very undermanned at the same time so I would think that 4-5,000 is a good estimate. I'm not sure if we've seen any concrete numbers though, maybe in the magazine. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:52, 25 June 2006 (CDT)

::Answer: in "Water" Baltar says how many civilians there are in the Fleet, and subtracting that from the total survivor population in that episode yielded the crew aboard Galactica as of "Water", at some number over 2,600 (I'd have to check). In several podcasts, Ron Moore keeps saying that while not on a skeleton crew, Galactica has about half the number of people on it that a fully crewed battlestar of its class would have. So, "between 4,000 and 5,000". --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 17:38, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
:::Thanks for the clarification, I'll take these numbers then. -- [[User:Astfgl|Astfgl]] 07:37, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

== Flight tube counts ==
I see (in [[:Image:Bsg-2-cvn.jpg]], e.g.) 20 slots that seem like they might each be divided in half along the side of ''Galactica''. I can see why it is likely they are launch tubes, but I can also see many other similarly sized openings around them. Although it's a fine guess and quite likely to be true, I'm left hestitant that this evidence is sufficiently strong to be canon. In any case, if consensus is that this is canon, we should certainly footnote it, as the truth of the statement is not patently clear. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 00:10, 10 August 2006 (CDT)

== Delivery of Nuclear weapons ==

Since the Cylon forces repeatedly use missiles as an effective delivery platform for their nuclear weapons, isn't ir relativel safe to assume- since, of course, the Cylons were created by the Colonials- that the method deployed by Colonial forces is also missile-based? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 09:22, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
:It's a good idea, and I personally agree with it, but there is no aired proof, and thusly we cannot confirm how they do it. The two Galactica nukes we've seen thus far (Baltar's and the one Boomer uses to destroy the Basestar in Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II) have been removed from their delivery systems. (Although Boomer's did look like it was in a bomb casing). --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:31, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
::Fair point. Perhaps we'll get clarificaion in Season3, since Galactica herself still has three nuclear weapons aboard. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 10:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Well, we know now, good call on it being revealed in season 3, Although they haven't been used yet, I'm willing to bet they will be used in season 4 and we are going to have to update the articles again.--[[User:Tomglima|Tomglima]] 20:09, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
== Galactica-Class? ==

Please bear with me for a moment as I am citing a magazine many of you may consider illegitimate. In the September 2006 issue of Maxim Magazine, the "Fashion" section of Maxim Style features a photoshoot of the RDM Battlestar Galactica cast modeling various fashions. In one photograph, featuring James Callis and Tricia Helfer in a small corner alcove of the CIC (possibly weapons control or some other station), a center console features the text "GALACTICA-CLASS BATTLESTAR" in two places, easily readable to the viewer. I know it is general policy on television shows that whatever is aired in a given episode is canon, and what is not aired, non-canon. However, would this (i.e., "Galactica-class Battlestar") be considered canon since this console is occasionally seen in a given episode? Or am I just reading too much into a simple photoshoot? --[[User:Jonfucius|Jonfucius]] 09:30, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Do you have a photograph of this? or a timestamp where we can check the DVD's? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 09:55, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::I assume he means [http://bsg-cz.net/news/files/images/season_3/maxim_5.jpg this] but on that pic I can't really see it on the prinouts on the table. It does indeed look like the weapon's control room, though I can't recall the table there. The room can be seen very rarely. In the miniseries for example --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:::I can barely make it out. Though it isn't canon, unless we saw it on the show itself, or if someone from the show were to tell us that "yes, indeed, ''Galactica'' is a ''Galactica''-class battlestar". Then it's canon. However, by all means, we can certainly put something in the notes section regarding this. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 10:17, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::::That's definitely the weapons control section of CIC. If we can get a clearer shot, that will remove all doubt; it does look like "Galactica class" to me. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:57, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::Something for [[BW:OC]]? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:14, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::If I had access to a scanner I would provide a high-res image to examine; unfortunately, I am a relatively-poor college student (and how many aren't these days?) and the only scanner access I have is a public-use scanner in our bookstore. However, the image Mercifull provided is the one I indicated in my first post. In my copy of the issue, the text clearly reads "Galactica-class Battlestar". I know this is a minor detail among many in a show so richly layered by the writers and producers, but I wanted to make sure the Battlestar Wiki was as accurate as possible; I use the Wiki to enhance my experience of this incredible drama. Thank you all for your timely responses to my question. --[[User:Jonfucius|Jonfucius]] 11:39, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
I hate to dredge up an old topic, but here's some food for thought that might support the theory that ''Galactica'' is the class name. Now, we're told that Galactica herself represented Caprica, the de facto capital of the colonies. Surely it stands to reason that the first battlestar built would be the one to represent the primary colony- Galactica. I know this is fanwanking, but I just thought of it and figured I'd voice my idea. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 12:26, 5 November 2007 (CST)

== Actual class name? ==

I can purely speculate that the actual name of the original battlestar class (of which ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' is a member) is ''Onassis'', in honor of the wife of assassinated President [[Wikipedia:John F. Kennedy|John F. Kennedy]], [[Wikipedia:Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis|Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis]]. So, ''Galactica'' is considered as an ''Onassis''-class battlestar. The prototype of its class, battlestar ''Onassis'' is destroyed in the renewed [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] conflict. --[[User:Starkiller|Starkiller]] 21:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::LMAO at this troll.--[[User:Tomglima|Tomglima]] 20:11, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
:And there's ''nothing'' to back this up with? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 02:06, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
:And how would Colonials know of the Kennedys? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 02:29, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
::Because they got information from Earth about these Kennedys before the Cylon Holocaust. Years before the [[Cylon War]], the battlestar prototype, ''Onassis'', is constructed, then ''Galactica'' itself. Therefore, we presume this original battlestar class (of which ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' is a member) is ''Onassis''. --[[User:Starkiller|Starkiller]] 04:20, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
:I am ''very'' confused. There would have to be some serious cite for that change. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:10, 19 September 2006 (CDT)

I think that Starkiller is being absurd to prove a point, but, like others, I'm missing it. As per our convention, pure speculation is disallowed here without official sources to back it up. Since the picture of two BSG actors on an official set using props that match others with information cited as official and used here for articles (navigation charts) which indicates that ''Galactica'' is the first of her class, we should continue on this thread. Otherwise, Starkiller's comment is patent nonsense given that BSG is deliberately set so we don't know if the events occur in real-world Earth's past, present, or future. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:13, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
:I've heard on several occasions that Galactica may be an "Atlantia-class" battlestar, but have found nothing to support this online. I've also heard that the original Galactica was a "Columbia-class". Is this true? If so, is it possible that the re-imagined Galactica is also a Columbia-class? I think this should head on over to [[BW:OC]]. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:46, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
::"Columbia-class" is common fan fiction. "Atlantia" class would make little sense: why would the fleet admiral use a old battlestar as his flagship? His ship would be Mercury class or something better (and more advanced--it was destroyed like the other [[CNP]] ships). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:34, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Then why does Adama choose Galactica as his flaghsip, and not Pegasus? There's nothing said on-screen to suggest that the Galactica-type battlestars were NOT re-fitted with computer networks. I'm just playing devil's advocate here. Besides, the Atlantia mentioned in the mini could easily have been Mercury-class, and the original may have been retired like the Big G was. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 06:54, 20 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Commanders don't have to choose the best and biggest ship as their flagship as long as they can do their duty from another one. Don't know who but some guy in WWII chose a destroyer or maybe a battleship as his command post and not an aircraft carrier. As long as there are options, there is some personal choice involved.
::::And you're right about networks. The Mini gives the distinct impression that it was only Adama's doing that the Galactica
::::wasn't more automated -[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:08, 20 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::Yeah, Admiral Raymond Spruance chose the cruiser USS Indianapolis as his flagship when he had multiple carriers at his disposal. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:11, 20 September 2006 (CDT)
::::As shown in events during the second half of season 2, Adama doesn't likely trust ''Pegasus'' crew. To quote Adama: "I tend to go with what you know, until something better comes along." So the decision is logical; he trusts ''Galactica'' and her crew, thus he plants his flag there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 10:52, 20 September 2006 (CDT)
::::An corollary to Joe's comments: It is very likely that there is a long-standing (but fading) tradition to keep ''Galactica'' from being refitted, just as our USS Constitution was never refitted as a steamer, in keeping with her (supposed) significancy in Colonial war history. Besides, to ''revert'' any ship from new to old technology is just weird and very unlikely. There may have been fewer commanders willing to assume command of ''Galactica'' in this tradition, but Adama, a man who knew all too well of the problems of technology (and had served on her in the last part of the war), chose ''Galactica'' willingly, I figure. This is reinforced with the arrival of ''Pegasus''. He could've moved his new admiral flag there, but he hasn't. He prefers to go with what he knows until something better shows up. The old battlestar ''Galactica'', in Adama's mind, is still best. ''Pegasus'' survived more on luck than inherent design. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:30, 20 September 2006 (CDT)

==Role==

As with the Mercury-class article, I've amended the class role to [[Wikipedia:Battlecarrier|battlecarrier]]. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 15:37, 27 September 2006 (CDT)

:Madbrood, I can appreciate the use, but based on your link, I disagree. The term "battlestar" is a true carrier AND battleship in one, where the "battlecarrier" of our Earth is a rough amalgam that doesn't come close in size, fighter capacity, or firepower. Further, I wonder if we want to use complext Earth naval terms instead of what is given in the show to describe the ships using simple naval language. "Carrier/battleship" is less "smooth" than "battlecruiser", but is is also more accurate. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:44, 27 September 2006 (CDT)
::I agree. Battlecruiser is a nice term, but it really doesn't fit Galactica. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:35, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Fair enough. I just figured it sounded a bit more "military". --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 09:47, 28 September 2006 (CDT)

::::I know. I'd love to put up "big, frakkin' warship/carrier with guns, lots of guns," but "warship/carrier" may have to do. Keeping it simple. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:33, 28 September 2006 (CDT)

== Battlestar Redirect ==
Battlestar (RDM) currently redirects here. The only reason this concerned me was I was actually linking to a more generic use of the word ("Adama had been on an another battlestar before ''Galactica''). Back when "big G" was the only one we knew of, it defintely made sense. Now that we have "''Galactica'' type", "Mercury class", and "''Valkyrie'' type" I was wondering if maybe we needed a more generic article to sit at battlestar (RDM) describing the aircraft carrier/battleship capital ship concept in more general terms, with ''Galactica'', ''Pegasus'', and ''Valkyrie'' being specific examples. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:45, 4 December 2006 (CST)
:That sounds good to me, a general article explaing what battlestars are, listing known ones, mentioning BSGs, missions, etc. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:30, 4 December 2006 (CST)
::Rather than that, why not redirect to the central [[Battlestar]] disambiguation? It already has listed all battlestars by show and type, and avoids extra work. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:26, 4 December 2006 (CST)
:::'''That''' is exactly what I wanted to link to. I just automatically tagged an RDM on the end of it. I'll go change that link, but I agree that we should just change Battlestar (RDM) to point to Battlestar (work smarter not harder). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 20:57, 4 December 2006 (CST)
::::Hah, I'd forgotten about that page. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:23, 4 December 2006 (CST)
::::Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:40, 4 December 2006 (CST)

== Life Support ==

How exactly do Galactica's life support systems work? I know their recirculation units replenish oxygen and remove carbon dioxide, but does this oxygen come from tanks or is it recycled from somewhere? The ISS uses electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, so is is possible that Galactica-type ships do something similar to this?--[[User:Rapturous|Rapturous]] 13:52, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
: Other than the scrubbers, it's really never been explained. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:03, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
::Theoretically, they could have a big room full of plants somewhere in the ship. Plants 'breathe in' carbon dioxide and 'breathe out' oxygen, the opposite of what we do. However, you would need some kind of imitation sun then, because the chemical reaction I just described can only occur in sunlight. Other (artifical) means of converting CO<sub>2</sub> back to oxygen could also be used (scrubbers?), but like the plants they will also require energy to work. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 06:57, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Have you ever seen the film [[w:Sunshine (2007 film)|Sunshine]] Catrope?
:::http://www.sunshinedna.com/wp-images/2005/09/2109_06a.jpg
:::They used an oxygen garden in that to produce the breathable air :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 07:37, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
::::Yep, I have. Spoilers for Sunshine follow: {{spoilli|In the scene where the ''Icarus II'' crew boards ''Icarus I'', you can see that her garden is still alive, because of the CO<sub>2</sub> <-> O<sub>2</sub> equilibrium between the plants and Captain Pinbacker who has lived there for seven years (having killed the rest of his crew).}} --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:58, 11 October 2007 (CDT)

== Galactica class pic to rear its head again ==

I ran across [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg this picture], which shows the "Galactica class battlestar" sheet again. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 12:21, 25 November 2007 (CST)
:Shall we [[BW:OC|ask Brad]] whether this is official or just something the props department made up? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:21, 26 November 2007 (CST)
:Maybe put it on a more prominent place in the article, but explain that such props aren't necessarily official or reliable. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 26 November 2007 (CST)

== Main Battery Numbers ==
I have noticed that there is some confusion on the number of these guns. In examining the the picture of the ventral side, I have noticed 12 guns. 8 are marked, while 4 (two starboard and two port) are partially concealed by the bottom of the bow. They are roughly between the forward four guns and the first four midships guns. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 19:51, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 1

2008-01-01T18:36:41Z

Kregano: /* Notes */

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|cont=Dynamite Comics}}

{{Comic Data
| image =BSGSZ1batistacover.jpg
| title=Season Zero 1
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=1
| episode=
| writer=Brandon Jerwa
| penciller=Stephen Segovia<br/>Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist=Adriano Lucas of Impacto Studios
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover=Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Stephen Segovia
| published=May 5, 2007
| collects=Batista B&W Incentive Cover<br/>Segovia Negative Art Incentive Cover
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 0]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2]]
}}

== Plot ==

: ''[[William Adama]] discovers that his mission to [[Neutral Space]] has become more complicated.''

== Summary ==

* After toasting to "the future", the married couples of the [[William Adama|Adama]]s and [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]]s are discussing their husband's new status in the military.
* After Bill assures [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen]] that the "days of top-secret missions are over", Saul makes a sexual comment about "no more 'convert insertions' for us" to Ellen. Reacting to this, [[Carolanne Adama|Carolanne]] makes a quip about "to have ''that'' much fun", to which Bill comments that she'd better "hurry up on that drink, then, we're falling behind".
* Carolanne changes the conversation to indicate that she likes the fact that Bill will be around more often. Saul replies that he has a whole list of home improvements to do during his time off.
* After Ellen invites Carolanne to "powder their noses", Saul shares his optimism to Bill about the new assignment being a "polite road to retirement", which Adama agrees to.

* In the present, Saul Tigh is making an entry into ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'s'' duty log. Tigh summarizes the current status of [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 0|the mission]] and notes that, while they've lost [[wireless]] contact with Adama's search [[Raptor 339|Raptor]], he believes that the situation is under control. The last panel has Tigh reflected off an liquor bottle.

* On [[DiMarco's planet|planet surface]], Adama, his team of [[marines]], and [[Julian DiMarco]] are surrounded by [[Cylon Centurion]]s. DiMarco assures Adama that the Cylons' presence is not his fault, although he's always suspected they had a presence on the planet—and this is the first time they had ever encountered them, however.
* Adama orders his people not to make any aggressive actions as the Cylons begin to take aim at them.
* DiMarco whips out a remote control, using it to activate the engines on his crashed ship, which disorient the Cylons and allow the marines to begin taking out the Cylons. [[Hotfoot]] is injured in the engagement and another marine is shot.

* On ''Galactica'', an inebriated Tigh is summoned to [[CIC]], where the female watch officer informs him that they've detected a sizable heat signature on the surface, possibly an explosion. The lieutenant sees that Tigh is disoriented and asks if he is well, but Tigh brushes her concern off, claiming that he just needs a minute to get straightened out.

* On the surface, Doctor [[Cottle]] runs to check on the downed marine. The fighting stops, a headcount is conducted, and Cottle notes that there was only one fatality.
* As DiMarco attempts to give his condolences, Adama throws DiMarco up against the wall, angered that DiMarco lead them into a trap.
* [[Peter]] attempts to interfere, but DiMarco waves him off. DiMarco assures Adama that he'll give Adama the answers he seeks, but only after they get to one of the deeper caves for shelter since the Cylons will likely return.

* Adama remembers a mission on ''[[Columbia (RDM)|Columbia]]'', while serving under then-Commander DiMarco as XO. DiMarco communicates to Colonial Fleet Control that they have found the commandeered vessel and are pursuing. Fleet Control stresses to DiMarco that the escapees are to be taken alive, if possible.
* DiMarco replies that ''Columbia'' was undergoing a simple fuel efficiency test and due to this, the battlestar is staffed with essential personnel only and will have to pull qualified pilots from command ranks. Fleet Control informs DiMarco that the decision is up to him.
* In two [[Viper Mark II]]s, Julian "Marksman" DiMarco and William "Husker" Adama move to intercept the commandeered vessel. They hang back to let the ship make the first move, during which Adama notes that his Viper's "passenger" (a special EMP package) is ready to be released.
* The ship's heavy cannon opens fire on the Vipers, but is quickly taken out by Adama. Adama hangs back behind the ship, which the crew aboard presume to mean that he's warming up for a missile attack, while DiMarco makes a turn to position himself in front of the ship. Once in position, DiMarco orders Adama to fire the electromagnetic pulse.
* As Adama fires the pulse, the escapees make plans to ram DiMarco's Viper, but are thwarted as the EM pulse deactivates their systems, thus rendering the ship powerless.

* After Adama and DiMarco land on ''Columbia'', they receive a cheerful reception from the deck crew. DiMarco asks Adama if the experience was half as fun for his friend as it was to him. Adama replies that it was "better than a hundred birthday parties and my first kiss put together".
* DiMarco begins smoking a cigar while handing another to Adama, saying he's earned it.
* As they walk down a corridor, DiMarco gives Adama a piece of advice about his career being guided by his hand, finishing off the advice by saying: "Stay young or ''die'', Bill, and never compromise."

* Back in a cave on the planet, DiMarco asks to sit down next to Adama, who obliges. DiMarco hands Adama a cup of water, and discusses how he initially didn't give a frak what anyone had thought, at least until he had met up with Adama again. After Adama brusquely breaks through DiMarco's roundabout method of conversation, DiMarco makes it clear that he was involved in a Colonial Fleet black ops, doing "the dirty work that no one likes to talk about".

* Elsewhere on the planet, Kelly and two Marines are trying to reach their crashed [[Raptor]]. As Kelly crosses to the Raptor, he is fired upon and runs for cover, while the other two Marines return fire. After the Marines confirm Kelly is uninjured, Kelly orders the Marines to flush out the assailant. They find that it is one lone man firing at them on top of a dune and neutralize him.
* The man (later known as [[Byron Dane]] in [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2|Issue 2]]) is a survivor from a bombed out settlement, who believed that he was firing on Cylons. Noting the Raptor, Dane asks whether or not he is going to be returned to the Colonies, and one of the Marines indicates that he should sit down for a minute.

* Back in the cave, DiMarco tells Adama that he did retire from the Fleet as an admiral, but reveals that the [[Expeditionary Fleet]] is nothing more than a cover for black ops. He tells Adama that he didn't find out about it until it was too late, but explains that the bright side of joining was a woman he met named [[Sil]], to whom he has been with for a year. Adama gets irate and becomes sick of DiMarco's drawn out, roundabout explanations, which leads DiMarco to bring Adama to the site of a destroyed settlement.
* When asked who destroyed the settlement, DiMarco admits to Adama that he destroyed the settlement.

==Notes==

* Despite the presence of [[Kara Thrace]] on covers B and D, the character does not appear until [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2|Issue 2]]. The same can be said for [[Lee Adama]], who is featured on cover C and D and makes an apperance in Issue 2 as well, but in a flashback scene with [[Zak Adama]].
* [[Number Six]], despite being depicted on the cover of this issue as well as [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 0|Issue 0]], does not appear in this comic and has yet to appear in the series as of this issue.
*The ''Columbia'' as seen in the flashback greatly resembles the original [[Battlestar (TOS)|battlestar]] design, while the Vipers from that same flashback greatly resemble the [[Viper (TOS)|ones]] from the original series.

== Analysis ==

* The series plays loose with continuity, namely when concerning the Cylons. Humanity hasn't had direct contact with the Cylons for the past 40 years.
* The series makes the error of depicting [[Viper Mark II]]s in operation; [[Viper Mark VII]]s were in operation during this time, since Mark IIs were [[Cylon War]]-era craft. This error is continued throughout the series.

== Questions ==

* Why did the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] want the separatist colony destroyed?
* Will Adama report the presence of [[Cylon (RDM)|Cylon]]s on the planet? ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2|Answer]])

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== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ1sejiccover.jpg|Cover A: [[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ1batistacover.jpg|Cover B: [[Adriano Batista]] foil and regular cover.
Image:BSGSZ1segoviacover.jpg|Cover C: [[Stephen Segovia]] cover.
Image:BSGSeason01Photocover.jpg|Cover D: Photo cover featuring [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Lee Adama]].
Image:BSGSZ1batistasketchco.jpg|Incentive 1: Adriano Batista sketch cover.
Image:BSGSZ1segovianegcover.jpg|Incentive 2: Steven Segovia negative art incentive cover.
Image:BSGSZ1blankcover.jpg|The "blank" cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C107481.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 1'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C107482.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 1'' - Foil Edition]

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Unknown craft (RDM comics)

2007-12-14T01:41:33Z

Kregano:

There are several '''craft of an unknown type''' that appear throughout the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]] comics.

== Prototype craft ==

[[Image:Prototype craft.jpg|thumb|A prototype craft.]]

An expensive prototype craft is being tested by the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] roughly one and a half years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].

The craft is larger than a [[Raptor]], its cockpit located at the ship's forward section. The ship has a smooth look to it, with red pin-striping in a form similar to an Arabic number "2"; to its aft, it appears to have similar hull-ribbing that ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' has.

This craft is used in an exercise against three [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s, two of which are easily taken out, while a third (piloted by [[Kara Thrace]]) only has a weapons malfunction. When this craft makes a combat landing towards the port [[landing bay]], Thrace accelerates her craft and rams into the ship, causing damage to both the craft and her Viper. The act also earns her scorn from Commander [[William Adama]], who advises her to learn how to "play the game" ([[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3]]).

== Terrorist Craft ==
An FTL capable craft resembling a Raptor operated by [[Durja Purjat]]'s group, it is armed with missiles and cannons. It based on the outermost moon of [[Sagitarron]].

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4

2007-12-14T01:08:08Z

Kregano: Notes and Questions

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|cont=Dynamite Comics}}

{{Comic Data
| image = BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg
| title=Season Zero 4
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=4
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Jackson Herbert
| published=October 2007
| collects= B&W Sejic Sketch Retailer Incentive Cover
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5]]
}}

==Summary==
*Following the events of [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3|previous issue]], [[Ripper]] and the other surviving pilots return to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' with orders to see Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] immediately.
*On his way to the ready room, Adama is briefed on [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Karl Agathon|Helo]]'s status by [[Gaeta]], who reports that the [[Raptor]] is getting farther out of range and that all attempts at communication have failed.
*Ripper informs Adama that [[Nolan]] was a plant and that Starbuck and Helo disobeyed orders to pursue the ship that Nolan and [[Darja Purat]] escaped on.
*Somewhere near a planet, the Raptor and the terrorist vessel emerge from their jumps. Starbuck reactivates the Raptor's transponder in order to alert ''Galactica'' to their position.
*On the terrorist vessel, Nolan urges the pilots to lose the Raptor or destroy it. While Helo and Starbuck discuss their next move, the vessels jumps behind them.
*In order to evade, Starbuck suggests performing an "embry drop". With the enemy vessel pursuing them and firing at them, they dive the Raptor in to the atmosphere of the planet, before crashing into the canopy of a forest. The terrorist vessel breaks off and heads towards a mountain.
*On ''Galactica'', [[Dualla]] attempts to contact the Raptor after receiving its transponder signal. Gaeta reports to Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] that the Raptor's signal was last tracked to the atmosphere of [[Sagittaron]]'s outermost moon.
*Adama enters the [[CIC]] and informs Tigh that Colonial Intelligence will be getting involved again and that their agent has arrived on ''Galactica''. They head to flight deck, where the agent immediately demands to talk with Adama in his office.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo exit their Raptor. As Helo comments on how to properly execute an embry drop, he steps on some weak branches, causing him and the Raptor with Starbuck in it to fall to the forest floor. Starbuck is unharmed and promptly retrieves a large suit case before heading off towards the mountain.
*In Adama's office, Agent Levin informs Adama that he is on ''Galactica'' to deal with the current situation, in a way that will probably require raising the limit of acceptable loses, specifically Helo and Starbuck. Adama replies that he could come up a great many plans that would not require sacrificing them.
*Levin comments on Adama's actions in the first three issues, before stating that he would consider any alternatives Adama came up with and that he would like to explore the ship. Adama agrees, with the only condition being that Levin cannot enter the CIC without him.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo examine their survival gear in the rain. Along with normal things like food, medical supplies, and tools, their gear has two assault rifles and a sniper rifle.
*At the terrorist base, at the base of the mountain, Purjat watches Starbuck and Helo through a pair of binoculars. He soon leaves the room to meet a mysterious benefactor with Nolan. After some small talk, the benefactor goes outside to deal with Helo and Starbuck personally.
*Adama and Levin enter the CIC. Adama says that Levin will be overseeing the next part of the mission but Levin says that Adama is out of the loop before asking about ''Galactica'''s ability to launch nuclear missiles. Tigh and Gaeta attempt to lie, but Levin becomes enraged, ordering Adama to start pre-strike preparations.
*Adama refuses to comply, forcing Levin to order his men to take Adama to the brig. Tigh calls Marines to the CIC, but Adama orders them to stand down before he and Tigh are sent to the brig. Levin makes Gaeta acting XO and prepares to execute a nuclear strike on the moon.
*Outside the rebel base, Starbuck and Helo go over their plan before separating. Once Helo gets into position, he spots something, but is unable to inform Starbuck because someone puts a pistol to his head.
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== Notes ==
* As in previous issues, ''Galactica'' deploys [[Viper Mk II]]s, which have been retired and replaced by the more advanced [[Viper Mk VII]].
* Sagitarron's outermost moon is inhabitable by humans and posses its own satellite.
* The person who has Helo at gunpoint uses the Miniseries and Season 1 version of the Colonial sidearm.

== Questions ==
* How long has the base been on the moon?
* What are the motivations for using a nuclear strike on the moon?
* Is Levin a plant as well?
* Who is Purjat's mysterious benefactor and is he the one with the pistol at Helo's head?
* What did Helo see before he was discovered?
* Will the nuclear strike actually happen?

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4herbertcov.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4photocoverBIG.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108235.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108236.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Foil Edition]

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4

2007-12-12T22:42:13Z

Kregano: /*Summary*/

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|cont=Dynamite Comics}}

{{Comic Data
| image = BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg
| title=Season Zero 4
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=4
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Jackson Herbert
| published=October 2007
| collects= B&W Sejic Sketch Retailer Incentive Cover
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 5]]
}}

==Summary==
*Following the events of [[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3|previous issue]], [[Ripper]] and the other surviving pilots return to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' with orders to see Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] immediately.
*On his way to the ready room, Adama is briefed on [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Karl Agathon|Helo]]'s status by [[Gaeta]], who reports that the [[Raptor]] is getting farther out of range and that all attempts at communication have failed.
*Ripper informs Adama that [[Nolan]] was a plant and that Starbuck and Helo disobeyed orders to pursue the ship that Nolan and [[Darja Purat]] escaped on.
*Somewhere near a planet, the Raptor and the terrorist vessel emerge from their jumps. Starbuck reactivates the Raptor's transponder in order to alert ''Galactica'' to their position.
*On the terrorist vessel, Nolan urges the pilots to lose the Raptor or destroy it. While Helo and Starbuck discuss their next move, the vessels jumps behind them.
*In order to evade, Starbuck suggests performing an "embry drop". With the enemy vessel pursuing them and firing at them, they dive the Raptor in to the atmosphere of the planet, before crashing into the canopy of a forest. The terrorist vessel breaks off and heads towards a mountain.
*On ''Galactica'', [[Dualla]] attempts to contact the Raptor after receiving its transponder signal. Gaeta reports to Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] that the Raptor's signal was last tracked to the atmosphere of [[Sagittaron]]'s outermost moon.
*Adama enters the [[CIC]] and informs Tigh that Colonial Intelligence will be getting involved again and that their agent has arrived on ''Galactica''. They head to flight deck, where the agent immediately demands to talk with Adama in his office.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo exit their Raptor. As Helo comments o how to properly execute an embry drop, he steps on some weak branches, causing him and the Raptor with Starbuck in it to fall to the forest floor. Starbuck is unharmed and promptly retrieves a large suit case before heading off towards the mountain.
*In Adama's office, Agent Levin informs Adama that he is on ''Galactica'' to deal with the current situation, in a way that will probably require raising the limit of acceptable loses, specifically Helo and Starbuck. Adama replies that he could come up a great many plans that would not require sacrificing them.
*Levin comments on Adama's actions in the first three issues, before stating that he would consider any alternatives Adama came up with and that he would like to explore the ship. Adama agrees, with the only condition being that Levin cannot enter the CIC without him.
*On the moon, Starbuck and Helo examine their survival gear in the rain. Along with normal things like food, medical supplies, and tools, their gear has two assault rifles and a sniper rifle.
*At the terrorist base, at the base of the mountain, Purjat watches Starbuck and Helo through a pair of binoculars. He soon leaves the room to meet a mysterious benefactor with Nolan. After some small talk, the benefactor goes outside to deal with Helo ad Starbuck personally.
*Adama and Levin enter the CIC. Adama says that Levin will be overseeing the next part of the mission but Levin says that Adama is out of the loop before asking about ''Galactica'''s ability to launch nuclear missiles. Tigh and Gaeta attempt to lie, but Levin becomes enraged, ordering Adama to start pre-strike preparations.
*Adama refuses to comply, forcing Levin to order his men to take Adama to the brig. Tigh calls Marines to the CIC, but Adama orders them to stand down before he and Tigh are sent to the brig. Levin makes Gaeta acting XO and prepares to execute a nuclear strike on the moon.
*Outside the rebel base, Starbuck and Helo go over their plan before separating. Once Helo gets into position, he spots something, but is unable to inform Starbuck because someone puts a pistol to his head.
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== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSZ4Batistacov.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4herbertcov.jpg|[[Jackson Herbert]] cover.
Image:BSGSZ4photocoverBIG.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108235.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108236.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4'' - Foil Edition]

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The Cylons' Secret

2007-12-08T02:23:57Z

Kregano: /*Summary*/

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{{Book Data
| image= Bsg-cylonsecret-book.jpg
| title= The Cylons' Secret
| series= Re-imagined Series
| bookno= 2
| episode=
| author= Craig Shaw Gardner
| published= August 22, 2006
| isbn= 0765315785
| prev= [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)]]
| next= [[Sagittarius Is Bleeding]]
| amazon=0765315793
| itunes=http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=VWbyALbmqZY&offerid=78941&type=3&subid=0&tmpid=1826&RD_PARM1=http%253A%252F%252Fphobos.apple.com%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore.woa%252Fwa%252FviewAlbum%253Fi%253D184715494%2526id%253D184715494%2526s%253D143441%2526partnerId%253D30
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'''''The Cylons' Secret''''' by Craig Shaw Gardner (published by [http://www.tor.com/ Tor Books]), is an original [[w:Prequel|prequel]] novel based on the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]].

==Overview==
Book Description from [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0765315793/ref=dp_proddesc_0/002-0689449-0979210?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books Amazon.com]:

:Sometimes no news is bad news.

:It’s been twenty years since the end of the Cylon war. The twelve human colony worlds are rebuilding, and the Cylons . . . the Cylons have been just too quiet. They are nowhere to be found. The robotic race that tried to obliterate their creators has gone to parts unknown in deep space.

:The aftermath of the war has created a new, illegal profession: scavenger. Tom Zarek is one, scouring the outer settlements for valuable Cylon technologies and artifacts and usually returning empty-handed. But now, he and the crew of the Cruiser Lightning have found the Omega Station, a scientific station shrouded in secrecy beyond the edge of charted space. This is it, the big score, except something is wrong…the base is still occupied, not by humans alone; by Cylons too!

:The battlestar Galactica, one of the oldest warships in the fleet, receives the Lightning's distress call, a cryptic one-word message: "Cylons." William Adama, newly promoted to second-in-command, is worried. Most of his crew are green, new recruits, not prepared for anything but the most routine missions. And, as Adama soon discovers, this mission is anything but routine. Omega is indeed full of Cylons, but also something much more disturbing . . .

== Summary ==
*One day before the [[First Cylon War]], Cylons all over the Colonies received urgent recall orders from an unknown source, killing any humans in their way. The Cylons declare their independence, causing the war to start, initially to prevent the Cylons from leaving. Later the war became focused on extermination of the Cylons for their crimes, with the Cylons having an upper hand until the Colonies regress in computer technology. Both sides nearly collapse by the end of the war, leading to the armistice.
*Twenty years later, Captain [[Saul Tigh]] on is ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', recalling the events that lead to his friendship with [[William Adama|Bill Adama]] and his current assignment on ''Galactica'' during its mission on the edge of explored space. Adama, currently a colonel and the ship's XO, is notified of strange readings on [[DRADIS]], emanating from a booby-trapped B-class freighter left by scavengers. Admiral Sing, ''Galactica'''s commanding officer, suggests sweeping the area in order to catch the scavengers and sending Vipers to deal with the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', [[Tom Zarek]] witnesses a fight between two of the ship's Viper pilots, Scag and Eddie. Suddenly, the crew is called to attention by Griff, the XO and communications officer. All nineteen crew members arrive on the main deck and are briefed by Captain Nadu.
*The ''Lightning'' receives an automated signal from a Colonial Science Protectorate outpost, despite the organization's dissolution around the time of the Cylon rebellion, mentioning a quarantine. Nadu sends Scag and Eddie in their [[Viper (TOS)|Viper Mk I]]'s ("Vipes") to check out the outpost.
*Near the sabotaged freighter, three Vipers flown by Lieutenant Tara "Athena" Tanada, Nik "Skeeter" Mino, and Junior Stith examine the damage inflicted by the scavengers. Skeeter privately believes that the Cylons were responsible for the freighter, partially because of his upbringing by his grandmother, who used stories of the Cylons to bring him into line. The Vipers are recalled to ''Galactica'' while Athena gets orders to destroy the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', the message is replaced by a live feed from Research Station Omega. The person on Omega's end informs ''Lightning'' that they have been out of contact with the Colonies for thirty years. Nadu takes advantage of the situation and gets permission for the Vipers to land, although the person on Omega's end urges Nadu to tell his pilots to wait after they land.
*On Omega, Doctor Villem Fuest considers the ramifications of the impending visit of ''Lightning'''s Viper pilots eventually calling on his dead wife Betti for guidance. He calls a meeting of the senior staff, consisting of himself, Laea, Jon, and Vin, the only other remaining humans on the base, and three "companions", Gamma, Beta, and Epsilon. The companions are in fact Cylons, although they did not rebel with the others.
*Laea and Vin witness the ''Lightning'''s Vipers land. The pilots exit the Vipers, brandishing their guns, causing the companions in the hangar bay to neutralize the pilots.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu recalls the events leading up to his command of the ''Lightning'', particularly the incident that lead to his disfigurement while monitoring the Vipers' descent. As soon as Scag and Eddie are captured, Omega Station begins broadcasting the automated message again.
*Fuest, Jon, Epsilon, Beta, and Gamma discuss the events in the hangar before resuming communications with the ''Lightning''. While Griff at first demands to speak to the pilots, he agrees to Fuest's request for a meeting with someone more diplomatic. Nadu agrees, but only after warning Fest that two Vipers would escort Zarek's shuttle.
*Nadu calls for another crew meeting, where he rallies the crew and assigns the crew for the second landing: Zarek, Boone, the Creep, and the two Viper pilots, Slam and Ajay. Nadu orders the shuttle crew to take weapons to intimidate the station's inhabitants.
*In the launch bay, Boone, Zarek, and the Creep load the shuttle with guns, grenades, and survival gear before leaving the ''Lightning''. They depart with their Viper escort and spend several minutes talking amongst themselves before landing.
*Upon landing, Zarek orders that none of his team open fire without provocation. Shortly after, Dr. Fuest, Gamma, and Beta enter the hangar, causing some concern among the shuttle crew. Zarek, Boone, and the Creep exit the shuttle, meeting the three senior staff members.
*While things appear to be going well, Ajay panics and opens fire with a rifle, casing Centurions to enter the area. A firefight begins, during which Zarek uses Fuest as a shield to get to the shuttle. He manages to get to the shuttle, but Boone is killed by Centurions before they could board the shuttle.
*The Creep disappears, forcing Zarek to pilot the shuttle. Slam also survived and pilots his Viper out of the hanger, with Zarek following in the shuttle. However, a ship appears in orbit and destroys Slam's Viper. Zarek shuts down the engines, causing the shuttle to fall. He sends a message to Nadu about what happened to the other members of the team and the fact that Cylons inhabit the station before firing thrusters, which fail to bring the shuttle under control before hitting the ground.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu decides to withdraw from the massive Cylon warship in order to jump to a meeting spot. However, the ship leaves without firing on the ''Lightning'', infuriating Nadu.
*On the planet, Zarek examines the damaged shuttle finding most of the supplies on board unharmed. After examining his situation, he decides to leave the shuttle and examine the surrounding area.
*Inside the station, Fuest questions the reasoning for the companions action. He is informed that through access to ''Lightning'''s pre-war computers (which were designed to interface with Cylon technology), the companions realized that they were a threat to the safety of the station and its personnel. They decided to neutralize the landing party before they could cause harm.
*On the roof of the station, Laea witnesses the fighting in the hangar and the events immediately after, including the destruction of Slam's Viper and the shuttle crashing into the forest.
*On ''Galactica'', Admiral Sing is given a copy of Zarek's distress call. The officer of the watch informs him that the duty staff overheard the message and its mention of Cylons, forcing Sing to call a meeting of all the senior officers in the CIC, in an attempt to quash any rumors.
*In the CIC, the senior officer discuss the message, particularly its origin and authenticity. Sing decides to send in recon Vipers once ''Galactica'' is closer to planet and have all the officers inform their subordinates that they are investigating a message of unknown origin and downplay the possibility of encountering Cylons.
*On the planet, Zarek scouts the area around the crashed shuttle, discovering that he landed in a valley with fruit, a small stream, and some wildlife. While using a water testing packet from a survival kit, he spends some time thinking about the ''Lightning'' and his situation.
*On ''Galactica'', Tigh briefs the mostly green Viper pilots about the mission, stating he will go personally on the first flight, along with Athena and Skeeter. After the briefing, Skeeter voices his anxiety about encountering Cylons, but Tigh reassures him before heading off to the mess for a drink.
*Meanwhile, Adama is called to the CIC as ''Galactica'' enters the vicinity of Omega Station and receives the automated message the ''Lightning'' previously received. Sing orders that a message be sent to the station, while at the same time, a message from the fleet on Omega Station.
*Not along after sending the message to Omega Station, they communicate with Fuest, who asks for any party from ''Galactica'' to come unarmed, after the experience with the raiders. Soon after, Tigh updates his pilots on the changes to the mission plan, which consists of the Vipers following the shuttle sent to the station, but not landing with the shuttle.

==Notes==

===New Locations===
*Research Station Omega – a Picon Colony Science Station, it was an attempt to study the interactions of human settlers and modified, semi-sentient Cylons (courtesy of independent neural pathways) about five years before the [[Cylon War]]. It was later forgotten and abandoned by Picon following the outbreak of war with the Cylons. The free cruiser ''Lightning'' and ''Galactica'' come across Omega 25 years after the war. Only one of the original researchers and three adult survivors (children when the station was abandoned) remain, along with 97 Cylon 'Companions'. Following an encounter with the dreadnought ''Invincible'', the station is abandoned by the companions for parts unknown and the human survivors returned to the Colonies.

===New Ships===
*B-class freighter – an old model ship, it was used to haul cargo from the Colonies to new settlements many years ago.
*“Recovery Ship” – this is a polite name for a scavenger ship, which is sometimes armed with outdated Viper Mark Ones
*free cruiser ''Lightning'' - this recovery ship attempts to scavenge Research Station Omega, but over a third of its crew is captured or killed by the occupants. Afterwards the ship returns with other recovery ships in order to destroy the station, but is presumably wiped out in conflict with the dreadnought ''Invincible''.

=== Other ===
* Adama as ''Galactica's'' XO and Tigh as captain on the ship contradicts later information from the episode "[[Hero]]", that has both serving on the battlestar ''[[Valkyrie]]'' before being assigned to ''Galactica''. A [[Sources:Adama's Dossier|document]] shown reveals further details about Adama's career in the Colonial Fleet.
* The description of weapons in the novel is mostly consistent with their portrayal in the re-imagined series, although several occasions later in the novel seem to be describing laser weaponry similar to that used in the original series. Also, the ''Invincible'' is described as having lasers in its arsenal.
* The ''Invincible'' never deploys [[Cylon Raider (RDM)#Cylon-War Era Raiders|Raiders]], implying that the Raider design was a later development since the dreadnoughts were among the first military units to rebel. However, the dreadnought deploys large numbers of Vipers specifically designed for Cylon use.
*''Galactica'' only has roughly two dozen pilots aboard, which is about the size of one squadron. However, it is stated that ''Galactica'' is training pilots in unexplored space, which is possibly why there are so few pilots aboard.
*There are no [[Raptor|Raptors]] aboard ''Galactica'', despite their use in the First Cylon War. While it is possible that they were not placed aboard for what was supposed to be a simple mission, it is more likely that the author did not know Raptors existed at the time (a fact that was only recently revealed in "[[Razor]]" and the [[Razor Flashbacks]]).

==External links==
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| title= The Cylons' Secret
| series= Re-imagined Series
| bookno= 2
| episode=
| author= Craig Shaw Gardner
| published= August 22, 2006
| isbn= 0765315785
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| next= [[Sagittarius Is Bleeding]]
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'''''The Cylons' Secret''''' by Craig Shaw Gardner (published by [http://www.tor.com/ Tor Books]), is an original [[w:Prequel|prequel]] novel based on the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]].

==Overview==
Book Description from [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0765315793/ref=dp_proddesc_0/002-0689449-0979210?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books Amazon.com]:

:Sometimes no news is bad news.

:It’s been twenty years since the end of the Cylon war. The twelve human colony worlds are rebuilding, and the Cylons . . . the Cylons have been just too quiet. They are nowhere to be found. The robotic race that tried to obliterate their creators has gone to parts unknown in deep space.

:The aftermath of the war has created a new, illegal profession: scavenger. Tom Zarek is one, scouring the outer settlements for valuable Cylon technologies and artifacts and usually returning empty-handed. But now, he and the crew of the Cruiser Lightning have found the Omega Station, a scientific station shrouded in secrecy beyond the edge of charted space. This is it, the big score, except something is wrong…the base is still occupied, not by humans alone; by Cylons too!

:The battlestar Galactica, one of the oldest warships in the fleet, receives the Lightning's distress call, a cryptic one-word message: "Cylons." William Adama, newly promoted to second-in-command, is worried. Most of his crew are green, new recruits, not prepared for anything but the most routine missions. And, as Adama soon discovers, this mission is anything but routine. Omega is indeed full of Cylons, but also something much more disturbing . . .

== Summary ==
*One day before the [[First Cylon War]], Cylons all over the Colonies received urgent recall orders from an unknown source, killing any humans in their way. The Cylons declare their independence, causing the war to start, initially to prevent the Cylons from leaving. Later the war became focused on extermination of the Cylons for their crimes, with the Cylons having an upper hand until the Colonies regress in computer technology. Both sides nearly collapse by the end of the war, leading to the armistice.
*Twenty years later, Captain [[Saul Tigh]] on is ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', recalling the events that lead to his friendship with [[William Adama|Bill Adama]] and his current assignment on ''Galactica'' during its mission on the edge of explored space. Adama, currently a colonel and the ship's XO, is notified of strange readings on [[DRADIS]], emanating from a booby-trapped B-class freighter left by scavengers. Admiral Sing, ''Galactica'''s commanding officer, suggests sweeping the area in order to catch the scavengers and sending Vipers to deal with the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', [[Tom Zarek]] witnesses a fight between two of the ship's Viper pilots, Scag and Eddie. Suddenly, the crew is called to attention by Griff, the XO and communications officer. All nineteen crew members arrive on the main deck and are briefed by Captain Nadu.
*The ''Lightning'' receives an automated signal from a Colonial Science Protectorate outpost, despite the organization's dissolution around the time of the Cylon rebellion, mentioning a quarantine. Nadu sends Scag and Eddie in their [[Viper (TOS)|Viper Mk I]]'s ("Vipes") to check out the outpost.
*Near the sabotaged freighter, three Vipers flown by Lieutenant Tara "Athena" Tanada, Nik "Skeeter" Mino, and Junior Stith examine the damage inflicted by the scavengers. Skeeter privately believes that the Cylons were responsible for the freighter, partially because of his upbringing by his grandmother, who used stories of the Cylons to bring him into line. The Vipers are recalled to ''Galactica'' while Athena gets orders to destroy the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', the message is replaced by a live feed from Research Station Omega. The person on Omega's end informs ''Lightning'' that they have been out of contact with the Colonies for thirty years. Nadu takes advantage of the situation and gets permission for the Vipers to land, although the person on Omega's end urges Nadu to tell his pilots to wait after they land.
*On Omega, Doctor Villem Fuest considers the ramifications of the impending visit of ''Lightning'''s Viper pilots eventually calling on his dead wife Betti for guidance. He calls a meeting of the senior staff, consisting of himself, Laea, Jon, and Vin, the only other remaining humans on the base, and three "companions", Gamma, Beta, and Epsilon. The companions are in fact Cylons, although they did not rebel with the others.
*Laea and Vin witness the ''Lightning'''s Vipers land. The pilots exit the Vipers, brandishing their guns, causing the companions in the hangar bay to neutralize the pilots.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu recalls the events leading up to his command of the ''Lightning'', particularly the incident that lead to his disfigurement while monitoring the Vipers' descent. As soon as Scag and Eddie are captured, Omega Station begins broadcasting the automated message again.
*Fuest, Jon, Epsilon, Beta, and Gamma discuss the events in the hangar before resuming communications with the ''Lightning''. While Griff at first demands to speak to the pilots, he agrees to Fuest's request for a meeting with someone more diplomatic. Nadu agrees, but only after warning Fest that two Vipers would escort Zarek's shuttle.
*Nadu calls for another crew meeting, where he rallies the crew and assigns the crew for the second landing: Zarek, Boone, the Creep, and the two Viper pilots, Slam and Ajay. Nadu orders the shuttle crew to take weapons to intimidate the station's inhabitants.
*In the launch bay, Boone, Zarek, and the Creep load the shuttle with guns, grenades, and survival gear before leaving the ''Lightning''. They depart with their Viper escort and spend several minutes talking amongst themselves before landing.
*Upon landing, Zarek orders that none of his team open fire without provocation. Shortly after, Dr. Fuest, Gamma, and Beta enter the hangar, causing some concern among the shuttle crew. Zarek, Boone, and the Creep exit the shuttle, meeting the three senior staff members.
*While things appear to be going well, Ajay panics and opens fire with a rifle, casing Centurions to enter the area. A firefight begins, during which Zarek uses Fuest as a shield to get to the shuttle. He manages to get to the shuttle, but Boone is killed by Centurions before they could board the shuttle.
*The Creep disappears, forcing Zarek to pilot the shuttle. Slam also survived and pilots his Viper out of the hanger, with Zarek following in the shuttle. However, a ship appears in orbit and destroys Slam's Viper. Zarek shuts down the engines, causing the shuttle to fall. He sends a message to Nadu about what happened to the other members of the team and the fact that Cylons inhabit the station before firing thrusters, which fail to bring the shuttle under control before hitting the ground.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu decides to withdraw from the massive Cylon warship in order to jump to a meeting spot. However, the ship leaves without firing on the ''Lightning'', infuriating Nadu.
*On the planet, Zarek examines the damaged shuttle finding most of the supplies on board unharmed. After examining his situation, he decides to leave the shuttle and examine the surrounding area.
*Inside the station, Fuest questions the reasoning for the companions action. He is informed that through access to ''Lightning'''s pre-war computers (which were designed to interface with Cylon technology), the companions realized that they were a threat to the safety of the station and its personnel. They decided to neutralize the landing party before they could cause harm.
*On the roof of the station, Laea witnesses the fighting in the hangar and the events immediately after, including the destruction of Slam's Viper and the shuttle crashing into the forest.

==Notes==

===New Locations===
*Research Station Omega – a Picon Colony Science Station, it was an attempt to study the interactions of human settlers and modified, semi-sentient Cylons (courtesy of independent neural pathways) about five years before the [[Cylon War]]. It was later forgotten and abandoned by Picon following the outbreak of war with the Cylons. The free cruiser ''Lightning'' and ''Galactica'' come across Omega 25 years after the war. Only one of the original researchers and three adult survivors (children when the station was abandoned) remain, along with 97 Cylon 'Companions'. Following an encounter with the dreadnought ''Invincible'', the station is abandoned by the companions for parts unknown and the human survivors returned to the Colonies.

===New Ships===
*B-class freighter – an old model ship, it was used to haul cargo from the Colonies to new settlements many years ago.
*“Recovery Ship” – this is a polite name for a scavenger ship, which is sometimes armed with outdated Viper Mark Ones
*free cruiser ''Lightning'' - this recovery ship attempts to scavenge Research Station Omega, but over a third of its crew is captured or killed by the occupants. Afterwards the ship returns with other recovery ships in order to destroy the station, but is presumably wiped out in conflict with the dreadnought ''Invincible''.

=== Other ===
* Adama as ''Galactica's'' XO and Tigh as captain on the ship contradicts later information from the episode "[[Hero]]", that has both serving on the battlestar ''[[Valkyrie]]'' before being assigned to ''Galactica''. A [[Sources:Adama's Dossier|document]] shown reveals further details about Adama's career in the Colonial Fleet.
* The description of weapons in the novel is mostly consistent with their portrayal in the re-imagined series, although several occasions later in the novel seem to be describing laser weaponry similar to that used in the original series. Also, the ''Invincible'' is described as having lasers in its arsenal.
* The ''Invincible'' never deploys [[Cylon Raider (RDM)#Cylon-War Era Raiders|Raiders]], implying that the Raider design was a later development. However, the dreadnought deploys large numbers of Vipers specifically designed for Cylon use.

==External links==
*[http://astore.amazon.com/battlestarwik-20/detail/0765315793 Purchase ''The Cylons' Secret'' from Amazon.com]

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Talk:Viper Mark VII/Archive 1

2007-12-05T01:03:45Z

Kregano:

'''Sci-Fi Channel on Mk VII retrofitting and handling'''
The Sci-Fi Channel link's dead, I think it's been dead for a while. Looks like Sci-Fi Channel has decided it doesn't need its own commentary page about the technical aspects of the BSG universe anymore. So what now? Would that bit about the Mk VII being harder to fly because of a lobotomy finally be removed off BSGWiki, or would we simply put up a "dead link" road sign? Personally, I've been arguing about the unlikelihood/uncanonacy/illogic-ness of Sci-Fi Channel's statement since day one, so I'm definately in favour of striking it completely. I know the page going down doesn't automatically equal retraction of the statement, but I'd think the series itself has provided amble evidence to the contrary of Mk VIIs being difficult to handle and only flown by the most experienced pilots. --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 11:40, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

== Maelstrom Variant ==
I don't believe that this mk 7 variant is actually intentional at all. Throughout the production of BSG the vfx crew have relied on several outside contractors for animation assets. As is normal in the vfx industry, the contractors are often left to duplicate assets by themselves, sometimes with limited resource material, so it looks as though these changes went by unnoticed. Further evidence of this is the Colonial raptor used in the season 3 episode "The Passage", which shows entirely different engines, engine mounts, front landing gear housing, and hull paneling than the raptor more commonly seen in the majority of other episodes.
--[[User:SFM Hobbes|SFM Hobbes]] 20:06, 19 September 2007 (CDT)Rick Snider

I agree with SFM Hobbes assesment, especially in light of Razor, where the Maelstrom Mk VII was used quite prominently. We should try to avoid speculation until someone in the show actually specifies that the Mk VII from Maelstrom is a new type of Mk VII. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 19:03, 4 December 2007 (CST)

The Cylons' Secret

2007-12-05T00:38:17Z

Kregano: /* Other */

{{separate continuity|universe=RDM|lcont=:Category:Books|cont=book series}}
{{Book Data
| image= Bsg-cylonsecret-book.jpg
| title= The Cylons' Secret
| series= Re-imagined Series
| bookno= 2
| episode=
| author= Craig Shaw Gardner
| published= August 22, 2006
| isbn= 0765315785
| prev= [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)]]
| next= [[Sagittarius Is Bleeding]]
| amazon=0765315793
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'''''The Cylons' Secret''''' by Craig Shaw Gardner (published by [http://www.tor.com/ Tor Books]), is an original [[w:Prequel|prequel]] novel based on the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]].

==Overview==
Book Description from [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0765315793/ref=dp_proddesc_0/002-0689449-0979210?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books Amazon.com]:

:Sometimes no news is bad news.

:It’s been twenty years since the end of the Cylon war. The twelve human colony worlds are rebuilding, and the Cylons . . . the Cylons have been just too quiet. They are nowhere to be found. The robotic race that tried to obliterate their creators has gone to parts unknown in deep space.

:The aftermath of the war has created a new, illegal profession: scavenger. Tom Zarek is one, scouring the outer settlements for valuable Cylon technologies and artifacts and usually returning empty-handed. But now, he and the crew of the Cruiser Lightning have found the Omega Station, a scientific station shrouded in secrecy beyond the edge of charted space. This is it, the big score, except something is wrong…the base is still occupied, not by humans alone; by Cylons too!

:The battlestar Galactica, one of the oldest warships in the fleet, receives the Lightning's distress call, a cryptic one-word message: "Cylons." William Adama, newly promoted to second-in-command, is worried. Most of his crew are green, new recruits, not prepared for anything but the most routine missions. And, as Adama soon discovers, this mission is anything but routine. Omega is indeed full of Cylons, but also something much more disturbing . . .

== Summary ==
*One day before the [[First Cylon War]], Cylons all over the Colonies received urgent recall orders from an unknown source, killing any humans in their way. The Cylons declare their independence, causing the war to start, initially to prevent the Cylons from leaving. Later the war became focused on extermination of the Cylons for their crimes, with the Cylons having an upper hand until the Colonies regress in computer technology. Both sides nearly collapse by the end of the war, leading to the armistice.
*Twenty years later, Captain [[Saul Tigh]] on is ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', recalling the events that lead to his friendship with [[William Adama|Bill Adama]] and his current assignment on ''Galactica'' during its mission on the edge of explored space. Adama, currently a colonel and the ship's XO, is notified of strange readings on [[DRADIS]], emanating from a booby-trapped B-class freighter left by scavengers. Admiral Sing, ''Galactica'''s commanding officer, suggests sweeping the area in order to catch the scavengers and sending Vipers to deal with the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', [[Tom Zarek]] witnesses a fight between two of the ship's Viper pilots, Scag and Eddie. Suddenly, the crew is called to attention by Griff, the XO and communications officer. All nineteen crew members arrive on the main deck and are briefed by Captain Nadu.
*The ''Lightning'' receives an automated signal from a Colonial Science Protectorate outpost, despite the organization's dissolution around the time of the Cylon rebellion, mentioning a quarantine. Nadu sends Scag and Eddie in their [[Viper (TOS)|Viper Mk I]]'s ("Vipes") to check out the outpost.
*Near the sabotaged freighter, three Vipers flown by Lieutenant Tara "Athena" Tanada, Nik "Skeeter" Mino, and Junior Stith examine the damage inflicted by the scavengers. Skeeter privately believes that the Cylons were responsible for the freighter, partially because of his upbringing by his grandmother, who used stories of the Cylons to bring him into line. The Vipers are recalled to ''Galactica'' while Athena gets orders to destroy the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', the message is replaced by a live feed from Research Station Omega. The person on Omega's end informs ''Lightning'' that they have been out of contact with the Colonies for thirty years. Nadu takes advantage of the situation and gets permission for the Vipers to land, although the person on Omega's end urges Nadu to tell his pilots to wait after they land.
*On Omega, Doctor Villem Fuest considers the ramifications of the impending visit of ''Lightning'''s Viper pilots eventually calling on his dead wife Betti for guidance. He calls a meeting of the senior staff, consisting of himself, Laea, Jon, and Vin, the only other remaining humans on the base, and three "companions", Gamma, Beta, and Epsilon. The companions are in fact Cylons, although they did not rebel with the others.
*Laea and Vin witness the ''Lightning'''s Vipers land. The pilots exit the Vipers, brandishing their guns, causing the companions in the hangar bay to neutralize the pilots.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu recalls the events leading up to his command of the ''Lightning'', particularly the incident that lead to his disfigurement while monitoring the Vipers' descent. As soon as Scag and Eddie are captured, Omega Station begins broadcasting the automated message again.
*Fuest, Jon, Epsilon, Beta, and Gamma discuss the events in the hangar before resuming communications with the ''Lightning''. While Griff at first demands to speak to the pilots, he agrees to Fuest's request for a meeting with someone more diplomatic. Nadu agrees, but only after warning Fest that two Vipers would escort Zarek's shuttle.
*Nadu calls for another crew meeting, where he rallies the crew and assigns the crew for the second landing: Zarek, Boone, the Creep, and the two Viper pilots, Slam and Ajay. Nadu orders the shuttle crew to take weapons to intimidate the station's inhabitants.
*In the launch bay, Boone, Zarek, and the Creep load the shuttle with guns, grenades, and survival gear before leaving the ''Lightning''. They depart with their Viper escort and spend several minutes talking amongst themselves before landing.
*Upon landing, Zarek orders that none of his team open fire without provocation. Shortly after, Dr. Fuest, Gamma, and Beta enter the hangar, causing some concern among the shuttle crew. Zarek, Boone, and the Creep exit the shuttle, meeting the three senior staff members.
*While things appear to be going well, Ajay panics and opens fire with a rifle, casing Centurions to enter the area. A firefight begins, during which Zarek uses Fuest as a shield to get to the shuttle. He manages to get to the shuttle, but Boone is killed by Centurions before they could board the shuttle.
*The Creep disappears, forcing Zarek to pilot the shuttle. Slam also survived and pilots his Viper out of the hanger, with Zarek following in the shuttle. However, a ship appears in orbit and destroys Slam's Viper. Zarek shuts down the engines, causing the shuttle to fall. He sends a message to Nadu about what happened to the other members of the team and the fact that Cylons inhabit the station before firing thrusters, which fail to bring the shuttle under control before hitting the ground.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu decides to withdraw from the massive Cylon warship in order to jump to a meeting spot. However, the ship leaves without firing on the ''Lightning'', infuriating Nadu.
*On the planet, Zarek examines the damaged shuttle finding most of the supplies on board unharmed. After examining his situation, he decides to leave the shuttle and examine the surrounding area.
*Inside the station, Fuest questions the reasoning for the companions action. He is informed that through access to ''Lightning'''s pre-war computers (which were designed to interface with Cylon technology), the companions realized that they were a threat to the safety of the station and its personnel. They decided to neutralize the landing party before they could cause harm.

==Notes==

===New Locations===
*Research Station Omega – a Picon Colony Science Station, it was an attempt to study the interactions of human settlers and modified, semi-sentient Cylons (courtesy of independent neural pathways) about five years before the [[Cylon War]]. It was later forgotten and abandoned by Picon following the outbreak of war with the Cylons. The free cruiser ''Lightning'' and ''Galactica'' come across Omega 25 years after the war. Only one of the original researchers and three adult survivors (children when the station was abandoned) remain, along with 97 Cylon 'Companions'. Following an encounter with the dreadnought ''Invincible'', the station is abandoned by the companions for parts unknown and the human survivors returned to the Colonies.

===New Ships===
*B-class freighter – an old model ship, it was used to haul cargo from the Colonies to new settlements many years ago.
*“Recovery Ship” – this is a polite name for a scavenger ship, which is sometimes armed with outdated Viper Mark Ones
*free cruiser ''Lightning'' - this recovery ship attempts to scavenge Research Station Omega, but over a third of its crew is captured or killed by the occupants. Afterwards the ship returns with other recovery ships in order to destroy the station, but is presumably wiped out in conflict with the dreadnought ''Invincible''.

=== Other ===
* Adama as ''Galactica's'' XO and Tigh as captain on the ship contradicts later information from the episode "[[Hero]]", that has both serving on the battlestar ''[[Valkyrie]]'' before being assigned to ''Galactica''. A [[Sources:Adama's Dossier|document]] shown reveals further details about Adama's career in the Colonial Fleet.
* The description of weapons in the novel is mostly consistent with their portrayal in the re-imagined series, although several occasions later in the novel seem to be describing laser weaponry similar to that used in the original series. Also, the ''Invincible'' is described as having lasers in its arsenal.
* The ''Invincible'' never deploys [[Cylon Raider (RDM)#Cylon-War Era Raiders|Raiders]], implying that the Raider design was a later development. However, the dreadnought deploys large numbers of Vipers specifically designed for Cylon use.

==External links==
*[http://astore.amazon.com/battlestarwik-20/detail/0765315793 Purchase ''The Cylons' Secret'' from Amazon.com]

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The Cylons' Secret

2007-12-01T17:50:02Z

Kregano: More additions to the summary.

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{{Book Data
| image= Bsg-cylonsecret-book.jpg
| title= The Cylons' Secret
| series= Re-imagined Series
| bookno= 2
| episode=
| author= Craig Shaw Gardner
| published= August 22, 2006
| isbn= 0765315785
| prev= [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)]]
| next= [[Sagittarius Is Bleeding]]
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'''''The Cylons' Secret''''' by Craig Shaw Gardner (published by [http://www.tor.com/ Tor Books]), is an original [[w:Prequel|prequel]] novel based on the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]].

==Overview==
Book Description from [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0765315793/ref=dp_proddesc_0/002-0689449-0979210?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books Amazon.com]:

:Sometimes no news is bad news.

:It’s been twenty years since the end of the Cylon war. The twelve human colony worlds are rebuilding, and the Cylons . . . the Cylons have been just too quiet. They are nowhere to be found. The robotic race that tried to obliterate their creators has gone to parts unknown in deep space.

:The aftermath of the war has created a new, illegal profession: scavenger. Tom Zarek is one, scouring the outer settlements for valuable Cylon technologies and artifacts and usually returning empty-handed. But now, he and the crew of the Cruiser Lightning have found the Omega Station, a scientific station shrouded in secrecy beyond the edge of charted space. This is it, the big score, except something is wrong…the base is still occupied, not by humans alone; by Cylons too!

:The battlestar Galactica, one of the oldest warships in the fleet, receives the Lightning's distress call, a cryptic one-word message: "Cylons." William Adama, newly promoted to second-in-command, is worried. Most of his crew are green, new recruits, not prepared for anything but the most routine missions. And, as Adama soon discovers, this mission is anything but routine. Omega is indeed full of Cylons, but also something much more disturbing . . .

== Summary ==
*One day before the [[First Cylon War]], Cylons all over the Colonies received urgent recall orders from an unknown source, killing any humans in their way. The Cylons declare their independence, causing the war to start, initially to prevent the Cylons from leaving. Later the war became focused on extermination of the Cylons for their crimes, with the Cylons having an upper hand until the Colonies regress in computer technology. Both sides nearly collapse by the end of the war, leading to the [[Armistice]].
*Twenty years later, Captain [[Saul Tigh]] on is the ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', recalling the events that lead to his friendship with [[William Adama|Bill Adama]] and his current assignment on ''Galactica'' during its mission on the edge of explored space. Adama, currently a colonel and the ship's XO, is notified of strange readings on [[DRADIS]], emanating from a booby-trapped B-class freighter left by scavengers. Admiral Sing, ''Galactica'''s command officer, suggests sweeping the area in order to catch the scavengers and sending Vipers to deal with the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', [[Tom Zarek]] witnesses a fight between two of the ship's Viper pilots, Scag and Eddie. Suddenly, the crew is called to attention by Griff, the XO and communications officer. All nineteen crew members arrive on the main deck and are briefed by Captain Nadu.
*The ''Lightning'' receives an automated signal from a Colonial Science Protectorate outpost, despite the organization's dissolution around the time of the Cylon rebellion, mentioning a quarantine. Nadu sends Scag and Eddie in their [[Viper Mk I]]'s ("Vipes") to check out the outpost.
*Near the sabotaged freighter, three Vipers flown by Lieutenant Tara "Athena" Tanada, Nik "Skeeter" Mino, and Junior Stith examine the damage inflicted by the scavengers. Skeeter privately believes that the Cylons were responsible for the freighter, partially because of his upbringing by his grandmother, who used stories of the Cylons to bring him into line. The Vipers are recalled to ''Galactica'' while Athena gets orders to destroy the freighter.
*On the ''Lightning'', the message is replaced by a live feed from Research Station Omega. The person on Omega's end informs ''Lightning'' that they have been out of contact with the Colonies for thirty years. Nadu takes advantage of the situation and gets permission for the Vipers to land, although the person on Omega's end urges Nadu to tell his pilots to wait after they land.
*On Omega, Doctor Villem Fuest considers the ramifications of the impending visit of ''Lightning'''s Viper pilots eventually calling on his dead wife Betti for guidance. He calls a meeting of the senior staff, consisting of himself, Laea, Jon, and Vin, the only other remaining humans on the base, and three "companions", Gamma, Beta, and Epsilon. The companions are in fact Cylons, although they did not rebel with the others.
*Laea and Vin witness the ''Lightning'''s Vipers land. The pilots exit the Vipers, brandishing their guns, causing the companions in the hanger bay to neutralize the pilots.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu recalls the events leading up to his command of the ''Lightning'', particularly the incident that lead to his disfigurement while monitoring the Vipers' descent. As soon as Scag and Eddie are captured, Omega Station begins broadcasting the automated message again.
*Fuest, Jon, Epsilon, Beta, and Gamma discuss the events in the hangar before resuming communications with the ''Lightning''. While Griff at first demands to speak to the pilots, he agrees to Fuest's request for a meeting with someone more diplomatic. Nadu agrees, but only after warning Fest that two Vipers would escort Zarek's shuttle.
*Nadu calls for another crew meeting, where he rallies the crew and assigns the crew for the second landing: Zarek, Boone, the Creep, and the two Viper pilots, Slam and Ajay. Nadu orders the shuttle crew to take weapons to intimidate the station's inhabitants.
*In the launch bay, Boone, Zarek, and the Creep load the shuttle with guns, grenades, and survival gear before leaving the ''Lightning''. They depart with their Viper escort and spend several minutes talking amongst themselves before landing.
*Upon landing, Zarek orders that none of his team open fire without provocation. Shortly after, Dr. Fuest, Gamma, and Beta enter the hangar, causing some concern among the shuttle crew. Zarek, Boone, and the Creep exit the shuttle, meeting the three senior staff members.
*While things appear to be going well, Ajay panics and opens fire with a rifle, casing Centurions to enter the area. A firefight begins, during which Zarek uses Fuest as a shield to get to the shuttle. He manages to get to the shuttle, but Boone is killed by Centurions before they could board the shuttle.
*The Creep disappears, forcing Zarek to pilot the shuttle. Slam also survived and pilots his Viper out of the hanger, with Zarek following in the shuttle. However, a ship appears in orbit and destroys Slam's Viper. Zarek shuts down the engines, causing the shuttle to fall. He sends a message to Nadu about what happened to the other members of the team and the fact that Cylons inhabit the station before firing thrusters, which fail to bring the shuttle under control before hitting the ground.
*On the ''Lightning'', Nadu decides to withdraw from the massive Cylon warship in order to jump to a meeting spot. However, the ship leaves without firing on the ''Lightning'', infuriating Nadu.
*On the planet, Zarek examines the damaged shuttle finding most of the supplies on board unharmed. After examining his situation, he decides to leave the shuttle and examine the surrounding area.
*Inside the station, Fuest questions the reasoning for the companions action. He is informed that through access to ''Lightning'''s pre-war computers (which were designed to interface with Cylon technology), the companions realized that they were a threat to the safety of the station and its personnel. They decided to neutralize the landing party before they could cause harm.

==Book Notes==

===New Locations===
*Research Station Omega – a Picon Colony Science Station, it was an attempt to study the interactions of human settlers and modified, semi-sentient Cylons (courtesy of independent neural pathways) about five years before the [[Cylon War]]. It was later forgotten and abandoned by Picon following the outbreak of war with the Cylons. The free cruiser ''Lightning'' and ''Galactica'' come across Omega 25 years after the war. Only one of the original researchers and three adult survivors (children when the station was abandoned) remain, along with 97 Cylon 'Companions'. Following an encounter with the dreadnought ''Invincible'', the station is abandoned by the companions for parts unknown and the human survivors returned to the Colonies.

===New Ships===
*B-class freighter – an old model ship, it was used to haul cargo from the Colonies to new settlements many years ago.
*“Recovery Ship” – this is a polite name for a scavenger ship, which is sometimes armed with outdated Viper Mark Ones
*free cruiser ''Lightning'' - this recovery ship attempts to scavenge Research Station Omega, but over a third of its crew is captured or killed by the occupants. Afterwards the ship returns with other recovery ships in order to destroy the station, but is presumably wiped out in conflict with the dreadnought ''Invincible''.

==External links==
*[http://astore.amazon.com/battlestarwik-20/detail/0765315793 Purchase ''The Cylons' Secret'' from Amazon.com]

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The Cylons' Secret

2007-12-01T04:16:23Z

Kregano: /* Summary */ Under Construction

Talk:Weapons in the Re-imagined Series/Archive 1

2007-11-21T23:37:19Z

Kregano:

== Future of [[KEW]] article ==

With this new page, I wonder what should happen with the [[KEW]] article. I copied the "autocannon" section there and also wanted to copy the "point defense" section. But then the article would be useless and could be deleted (KEW could be redirect here).

Or should we only summarize those two sections and include a "See main article link" to there? --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:36, 10 January 2007 (CST)

:My first reaction is to make KEW redirect here. Is there any information there that isn't shown here or more specific articles? "KEW" is just too broad. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:00, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::As said, if I copy the "point defense" part as well, there is nothing there anymore. It also has a bit about the main guns, but with [[Battery]] that's redundant. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:05, 10 January 2007 (CST)

:::All the more reason to cease KEW. I feel centralization of all ship weapons but sidearms would be preferable. Your call. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:44, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::::Alright, I'll do that. What should I do with the talk page? Move it here? I can't use the normal move function since this page already exists, but I could copy-paste it. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:06, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Normally we just let it go in cases like this unless there are very significant discussions that are critical to the article's existence. In this case, a summary that tells the result of the merge and why it occurred (which in turn is a summary of the consensus from the old talk pages) should be fine. No need to horde that stuff. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:29, 10 January 2007 (CST)

== Explosives and rocket launchers ==

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] have been used on numerous occassions in different forms, ranging from larger blocks to small chunks used to open doors. And in "Exodus, Part I" we see the Marines taking out Centurions with an RPG (rocket propelled grenade).<br>
Do these fall under "small arms"? According to [[w:Small_arms|Wikipedia]] RPGs can fall under that term, but it doesn't seem like explosives do. Should we stick to that and create a seperate "explosives" section or add it as sub-section of "small arms". The latter is probably better, given the overall structure of the article (and after all they did keep it in the small arms locker).<br>
But the obvious solution would be calling it "Small arms and explosives". Duh :)

I'll wait with adding the normal rifles and pistols here though, until the [[Talk:small arms|controvery]] about the [[small arms]] article is solved. Alternatively, if it turns out that a seperate small arms article specifically for an in-universe POV is created, the RPG could be added to that. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:28, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::If I remember correctly, it's not an RPG in Exodus, but a light anti-tank missile. I need to get a pic of it before I can be sure though. AT missiles are considered crew-served weapons if they are larger than, say, an [[w:M72 LAW|M72 LAW]]. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:51, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::Maybe it falls more into the larger "shoulder launched weapons"/"anti tank guided missile" category, but RPGs ''are'' anti-tank weapons, although they are used against more lightly armored vehicles instead of MBTs these days. Originally the acronym comes from Russian and stands for "handheld anti-tank grenade-launcher". Picture is [[:Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|here]] btw.
:::All in all, while it technically probably doesn't belong into "small arms", I guess it's better to stick it there for simpilicity and maybe make a note about that, instead of creating an own header for a weapon that has only been seen once so far. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:04, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::Soviet RPGs are an unusual case because they are considered personel weapons in the old Soviet army, soldiers would carry ones as their weapon instead of a rifle. Some western RPGs are crew-served though. Just by memory, the rocket in Exodus looked like a SMAW, but I need a picture to identify it (hint to anyone with it from iTunes). --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:07, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Maybe a "support weapon" section would work, this could also include any future machine guns and such we see. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:08, 11 January 2007 (CST)

== Cylon Raider's weapons ==
I know that everyone seems intent on the theory that the raider has two sets of KEW's of differing caliber but is not possible that one set is just merely a targeting asset, a sensor of some sort? I've never seen the Raider firing anything other than 'slug' rounds and only two lines of them at that. --[[User:Imperator|Imperator]] 11:40 19 August 2007 GMT
:Yeah could be. To be honest that part of the article was copied from some other article that took the speculation just a bit too far. It's more likely that there is simply a mismatch between the ammunition and the Raider model, so that part might be over analyzing things. That the ammo is a mix of explosives, slugs and tracers was confirmed by Bradley Thompson. Size mismatches aside, they could be fired from the same barrel. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:49, 19 August 2007 (CDT)

==Sidearm caliber==
It appears Valerii was not using a standard sidearm. (I specifically avoided naming the victim to prevent incidental/unnecessary spoillage of the S1 cliffhanger.) Here's [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=438 the gun], [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=437 the gun firing], and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=34 a promo shot] ([http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=36 or two]) that seem to back that as well. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)
:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)
::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)

Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2

2007-11-17T15:39:34Z

Kregano: /* Analysis */

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{{Comic Data
| image = BSGComic Season Zero 2.jpg
| title=Season Zero 2
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=0
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker= inLight Studio
| colorist=
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Stephen Segovia
| published=August, 2007
| collects=
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 1]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3]]
}}

==Summary==

*DiMarco tells of the events preceding ''[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 0]]'', particularly of the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] ordering the bombing of a separatist settlement disguised by the bombing of several other areas. Later DiMarco learns from his Fleet liaison that upon returning to colonial space, he and his crew would be prosecuted by the colonial justice system.

*After organizing a crew vote, DiMarco deliberately crash landed the ship so they could live on the planet. The Cylons arrived several hours later.

*Adama becomes enraged at DiMarco's fatalism, stating that the DiMarco he knew would have tried to clean the system. DiMarco replies that cleaning the system is impossible, before remarking that he knows what matters while Adama does not.

*Adama has a flashback to when Lee and Zak came to his military office on leave, inviting him to take some time off at a cabin. After commenting on Zak's simulator scores, Lee becomes enraged at Adama, who tries to reschedule the trip later the next week. Lee and Zak leave, ending the flashback.

*A [[Raptor]] arrives, bringing [[Byron Dane]], apparently the only survivor fro the settlement. Dane assumes that DiMarco and his crew are military, which he denies. Dane becomes convinced DiMarco bombed the settlement under orders of President Adar, but Adama defuses the situation by blaming the Cylons.

*On ''Galactica'', Tigh deploys two Raptors, one piloted by [[Karl Agathon]]. Tigh stresses the importance of the mission before the Raptors jump.

*On the planet, Adama and DiMarco talk, eventually leading to Adama relating how he [[Hero|violated the Armistice Line]]. Several seconds later, they are attacked by a new [[Raider (RDM)|Raider]], which fires missiles before strafing with gunfire. Adama and a [[marine]] supply cover fire while the Raptor tries to take off. The pilot decides to make an FTL jump after the Raider gets a weapons lock.

*The Raider pursues the Raptor, which jumped to higher altitude and damages it with its guns. The crew bails out before the Raptor explodes, while the Raider is destroyed by the two Raptors from ''Galactica''. Some time later, Adama departs after providing DiMarco's crew with supplies, bring Dane with them.

*One week later, Adama is in a meeting with several members of the admiralty, going over his after action report. Adama threatens to go public with the colony bombing and the encounters with the Cylons if court martialed.

*Back on ''Galactica'', Adama sits in his quarters and has a flashback to fight between him and his wife over Zak's death. Tigh enters and asks about his meeting, which resulted in Adama getting in his usual amount of trouble. Tigh asks about Adama's motives in letting DiMarco's crew stay behind. Adama says that it was because of ''[[Valkyrie]]'s'' mission and Bulldog.

*As Tigh leaves, Adama receives a call from his wife stating that she's filing for divorce. At the same time, a Raptor lands on ''Galactica'', bringing [[Felix Gaeta]], [[Kara Thrace]] and some other personnel aboard.

== Notes ==
*Colonial Expeditionary Fleet regularly equips its ships with bombs for mining, fault line exploration, and path clearing.
*Byron Dane is seen to be using the standard Colonial sidearm seen since Season 2.
*''Galactica'' is seen to be deploying [[Viper Mk II|Viper Mk IIs]], despite ''Galactica's'' last operational squadron being comprised of [[Viper Mk VII|Viper Mk VIIs]] in the [[Miniseries]].

== Analysis ==

* The comic series also ignores the continuity gaffe created by "[[Hero]]", inferring that the ''[[Valkyrie]]'''s mission occurred two years before the [[Fall of the Colonies]], and not the one year as inferred by that episode.

== Questions ==
*When did the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] learn of the separatist settlement?
*Why did the admiralty want the settlement destroyed?
*Why did the Raider fire only one missile, instead of emptying its missile launchers?
*What happened to Byron Dane?
*What happened to DiMarco's crew during and/or after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|destruction of the colonies]]?

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:BSGSea02batistacover.jpg|[[Adriano Batista]] cover.
Image:BSGS02batistasketchco.jpg|Adriano Batista sketch cover.
Image:BSGS02sejiccov.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSea02photocover.jpg|Photo cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C107729.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2'' - Regular Edition]

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3

2007-11-16T00:02:39Z

Kregano: /* Summary */

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{{Comic Data
| image = Season 0 -3 Batista cover.jpg
| title=Season Zero 3
| series=Dynamite
| issueno=3
| episode=
| writer= Brandon Jerwa
| penciller= Jackson Herbert
| inker=
| colorist= inLight Studio
| letterer=
| editor=
| cover= Stjepan Sejic, Adriano Batista, Stephen Segovia
| published=September, 2007
| collects= B&W Sejic Retailer Incentive Cover
| collected=
| reprints=
| reprinted=
| isbn=
| prev=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2]]
| next=[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 4]]
}}

==Summary==
*Three [[Viper Mk II|Vipers]], piloted by [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], Dash, and Ripper pursue an unknown craft of Colonial design. The craft engages in evasive maneuvers and disables Dash's Viper with a laser.

*Ripper and Starbuck try to intercept the craft before it reaches ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''. [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]] informs the Vipers that while the ship is at [[Condition One]], computer problems prevent the alert Vipers from launching. [[Anastasia Duallla|Dualla]] reports that the flight pods cannot be retracted due to a mechanical failure.

*Ripper attempts to destroy the craft before it can make a combat landing, but the pilot uses his ship's thrusters to decelerate, forcing the Vipers to overshoot. The ship fires its laser and disables Ripper and Starbuck, who becomes enraged. Starbuck continues pursuing the ship, despite Ripper's orders in regards to the exercise they have been conducting.

*As the "hostile" vessel lands in ''Galactica's'' flight pod, Starbuck rams her Viper into its side. She is then called to [[William Adama|Commander Adama]]'s office.

*Starbuck defends her actions in front of Adama and [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]] by stating that her Viper suffered only weapons failure, while the others had total electronics failure. Adama counters with the fact she disobeyed orders and damaged both the "hostile" vessel, which was a prototype, and her own Viper.

*After Starbuck leaves, Tigh warns Adama that protecting Starbuck could be hazardous. He goes on, saying the entire crew is becoming sloppy since ''Galactica'' "has fewer official duties than the shipping fleet."

*Adama replies that he has been distracted due to his divorce. He mentions that he took only enough personal items to fill a storage pod, letting [[Carolanne Adama|Carolanne]] have everything else.

*Two days later, Colonel Tigh introduces Colonial Intelligence agent Nolan to seven pilots. She begins briefing the pilots on terrorist attacks that were apparently conducted by an FTL capable ship. Nolan's plan to capture the terrorists consists of putting Darja Purat, an imprisoned arms dealer who has been claiming responsibility for the attacks, on a ship to draw the attackers out, allowing the Viper pilots to disable it.

*One of the pilots asks why ''Galactica'' was selected for the mission. Tigh states that the whole operation is supposed to look routine, and since ''Galactica'' is one of the least active ships in the fleet, it would be logically assigned to such an easy mission.

*Thirty-four hours later, near the Virgon moon cluster, Carrot and Ripper escort the ship with Purat on it, while Starbuck, [[Karl Agathon|Helo]], Jolly, and another pilot play cards. Nolan begins the final phase of the mission, while Carrot detects a transponder signal from a [[Raptor]] deployed on the mission. Carrot tries to contact the Raptor, but when there is no response, Nolan calls for full alert.

*The derelict Raptor explodes, sending Carrot's Viper tumbling out of control. Two pilots arrive in the launch bay control room, which is ready to launch upon orders from the bridge. Starbuck and Helo prep outside the hanger bay, while Nolan orders the Vipers to launched before going to Purjat's cell. Upon arriving there, she kills the two guards present and frees Purjat before giving him a spacesuit.

*A ship jumps right in front of the launch bay where Dash is ready to launch. Starbuck tells him to open fire, but he fails to before the unknown vessel fires two missiles and destroys Dash's Viper and the control room window. As Nolan and Purjat escape, Helo spots his undamaged Raptor. Carrot, Ripper, and Jolly's Vipers return and begin firing on the enemy ship.

*The enemy vessel jumps away, but Starbuck and Helo pursue in their Raptor after getting a lock on the enemy's jump coordinates, despite Ripper's orders to not pursue it.

==Notes==
*The prototype vessel from the beginning of the comic has a distinctly nonmilitary appearance and exposed ribbed sections near the engines, similar to ''Galactica''.

*The ''Galactica'' in this issue of the comic is extremely faithful to the CGI model, since it appears to have been traced from publicity stills. However, it looks extremely out of place due to lighting.

*The terrorist ship that attacks the prison ship bears a resemblance to Colonial Raptors, though it boasts heavier armaments, including missile launchers, and armor.

==Questions==
*Why was the prototype on ''Galactica'' for the exercise?

*Why was Colonial Intelligence unable to find out Nolan's allegiance before the mission?

*Where did the terrorists get their ship, which appears to be of '''military''' design?

*How did Starbuck and Helo get a lock on the terrorist vessel's jump coordinates?

== Alternate covers ==

<gallery>
Image:Season 0 -3 Batista cover.jpg|[[Adriano Batista]] cover.
Image:BSGSeason03Sejiccovers.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] foil edition cover.
Image:BSGSeason03Photocover.jpg|The photo cover, featuring [[Katee Sackhoff]] as [[Kara Thrace]], probably from a [[Season 3 (2006-07)|third season]] promotional photo.
Image:BSGSeason03segoviacov.jpg|[[Stephen Segovia]] black-and-white cover.
</gallery>

== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108005.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3'' - Regular Edition]
* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C108006.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 3'' - Foil Edition]

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Chronos

2007-11-12T22:45:58Z

Kregano:

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'''''Chronos''''', commanded by Admiral [[Tong]], is a [[Mercury class battlestar]] in the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] approximately one year prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].

[[Image:Chronos one.PNG|thumb|The wrecked ''Chronos''.]]
She was sent to investigate a distress signal near the [[Armistice Line]], but did not return. Unbeknownst to the Fleet, ''Chronos'' was attacked by the Cylons, which resulted in the deaths of over 1500 of her crew. A handful of survivors, including Tong, managed to escape.

Admiral [[Rohner]] sends Admiral [[Helena Cain]] and her ship, ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' to find ''Chronos''.

When they find ''Chronos'', the battlestar is a wreck, all but destroyed, used by the Cylons to lure more Colonial ships in for attack. Four [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]] emerge from the wreckage and attack ''Pegasus'' with nuclear missiles, severely damaging her.

As an out-gunned ''Pegasus'' manages to determine the location of a second distress signal at a distant fuel depot, the Raiders use their nuclear missiles to obliterate the remains of ''Chronos'' ([[Battlestar Galactica: Pegasus]]).

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Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2

2007-11-12T22:22:01Z

Kregano: Notes and Questions

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==Summary==

*DiMarco tells of the events preceding ''[[Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 0]]'', particularly of the Colonial Fleet ordering the bombing of a separatist settlement disguised by the bombing of several other areas. Later DiMarco learns from his Fleet liaison that upon returning to colonial space, he and his crew would be prosecuted by the colonial justice system.

*After organizing a crew vote, DiMarco deliberately crash landed the ship so they could live on the planet. The Cylons arrived several hours later.

*Adama becomes enraged at DiMarco's fatalism, stating that the DiMarco he knew would have tried to clean the system. DiMarco replies that cleaning the system is impossible, before remarking that he knows what matters while Adama does not.

*Adama has a flashback to when Lee and Zak came to his military office on leave, inviting him to take some time off at a cabin. After commenting on Zak's simulator scores, Lee becomes enraged at Adama, who tries to reschedule the trip later the next week. Lee and Zak leave, ending the flashback.

*A [[Raptor]] arrives, bringing Byron Dane, apparently the only survivor fro the settlement. Dane assumes that DiMarco and his crew are military, which he denies. Dane becomes convinced DiMarco bombed the settlement under orders of President Adar, but Adama defuses the situation by blaming the Cylons.

*On ''Galactica'', Tigh deploys two Raptors, one piloted by [[Karl Agathon]]. Tigh stresses the importance of the mission before the Raptors jump.

*On the planet, Adama and DiMarco talk, eventually leading to Adama relating how he [[Hero|violated the Armistice Line]]. Several seconds later, they are attacked by a new [[Raider (RDM)|Raider]], which fires missiles before strafing with gunfire. Adama and a marine supply cover fire while the Raptor tries to take off. The pilot decides to make an FTL jump after the Raider gets a weapons lock.

*The Raider pursues the Raptor, which jumped to higher altitude and damages it with its guns. The crew bails out before the Raptor explodes, while the Raider is destroyed by the two Raptors from ''Galactica''. Some time later, Adama departs after providing DiMarco's crew with supplies, bring Dane with them.

*One week later, Adama is in a meeting with several members of the admiralty, going over his after action report. Adama threatens to go public with the colony bombing and the encounters with the Cylons if court martialed.

*Back on ''Galactica'', Adama sits in his quarters and has a flashback to fight between him and his wife over Zak's death. Tigh enters and asks about his meeting, which resulted in Adama getting in his usual amount of trouble. Tigh asks about Adama's motives in letting DiMarco's crew stay behind. Adama says that it was because of ''[[Valkyrie]]'s'' mission and Bulldog.

*As Tigh leaves, Adama receives a call from his wife stating that she's filing for divorce. At the same time, a Raptor lands on ''Galactica'', bringing [[Felix Gaeta]], [[Kara Thrace]] and some other personnel aboard.

== Notes ==
*Colonial Expeditionary Fleet regularly equips its ships with bombs for mining, fault line exploration, and path clearing.
*Byron Dane is seen to be using the standard Colonial sidearm seen since season 2.
*''Galactica'' is seen to be deploying [[Viper Mk II|Viper Mk IIs]], despite ''Galactica's'' last operational squadron being comprised of [[Viper Mk VII|Viper Mk VIIs]] in the [[Miniseries]].

== Questions ==
*When did the [[Colonial Fleet]] learn of the separatist settlement?
*Why did the Admiralty want the settlement destroyed?
*Why did the Raider fire only one missile, instead of emptying its missile launchers?
*What happened to Byron Dane?
*What happened to DiMarco's crew during and/or after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|destruction of the colonies]]?

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Image:BSGS02sejiccov.jpg|[[Stjepan Sejic]] cover.
Image:BSGSea02photocover.jpg|Photo cover.
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== External links ==

* [http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/p-C107729.html ''Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2'' - Regular Edition]

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Talk:Chronos/Archive 1

2007-11-12T18:48:19Z

Kregano: New page: ==Chronos' Class== Why is the ''Chronos'' stated to be a Mercury class battlestar? It looks nothing like one, but more like the Valkyrie. --~~~~

==Chronos' Class==
Why is the ''Chronos'' stated to be a Mercury class battlestar? It looks nothing like one, but more like the Valkyrie. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 12:48, 12 November 2007 (CST)

Battlestar Galactica: Season Zero 2

2007-11-12T18:41:58Z

Kregano: /* Summary */

Small arms

2007-10-27T23:46:15Z

Kregano: /* Submachine guns */

{{POV Real}}

:''The following article lists many of the real world weapons used as props in the series. For a more general article on the weapons technology of ''Battlestar Galactica'' see: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]''

Not much description has been given about the small arms that are used in the re-imagined ''Battlestar Galactica'', but nearly all of the firearms that the Colonial forces carry are real weapons, either used without modifications or slightly changed to make them less recognizable.

==Handguns==
[[Image:OldPistol Resistance.JPG|thumb|left|Early style pistol ([[Resistance]]).]]
The standard-issue Colonial sidearm (introduced in the [[Miniseries]]) is according to Ron Moore's commentary an exact replica of the (fictional) sidearm used in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]'' (also starring [[Edward James Olmos]]). The standard service handgun used by the Colonial forces appears to be a modernized version of the [[Wikipedia:LeMat|LeMat revolver]] of the US Civil War, with a revolver-like pistol grip and a large barrel beneath the primary barrel. From closer examination of the handgun, it appears that the handgun used in the Miniseries and Season 1 was built around a [[Wikipedia:Smith & Wesson|Smith & Wesson]] K-Frame or L-Frame revolver. This sidearm is nicknamed the "Colonial Clamshell" by a propmaster in David Eick's 18th video blog.

It seems that, starting in the early second season the original sidearms have been nearly completely replaced by the [[Wikipedia:Five-seveN|Fabrique Nationale Five-seveN]], also dressed up with an underbarrel explosive launcher. This changeover allows for real semi-automatic fire and on-screen reloads ([[Home, Part II]]), and makes use of the existing stores of 5.7 x 28 mm (FN P-90) blank ammunition.
[[Image:Sidearm Flightofthephoenix.JPG|thumb|Apollo, Starbuck, and Hotdog on the [[firing range]] with FN Five-seveNs ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).]]

The [[Wikipedia:HK P9|Heckler & Koch P9]] is seen, along with an [http://www.weapon.envy.nu/gun/int.html Intratec Cat-9] in "[[Colonial Day]]".

The [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg54-e.htm Vektor CP1] has also made several appearances ("[[Bastille Day]]", "[[Black Market]]", "[[Sacrifice]]"); this is odd given a safety recall issued in 2000.

Samuel Anders can been seen with the [[Wikipedia:MK23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23]] ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]) and the Israeli [[Wikipedia:Desert Eagle|Desert Eagle]] ([[Downloaded]]).

The Russian-made [[Wikipedia:Makarov PM|Makarov PM]] handgun and the Russian-made Stechkin APS handgun have made an appearance in the Season 2 episode "[[Sacrifice]]".

The [[Stallion]] appears "[[Home, Part II]]". Based on the COP 357 Derringer <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Single-Shot-Pistols/COP_357.htm|title=COP 357 Derringer|date=|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=HTML|language=en}}</ref>, designed as a police off-duty/backup weapon, this four shot derringer fires .357 Magnum rounds. The name "Stallion" may be a production in-joke on the Marushin's model name, "COP 357", whose name is shared in part with the ubiquitous ''Colt'' .357 handgun. This pistol was also used in ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]''.

A very slightly disguised Czech [[w:Vz 52 (pistol)|CZ-52 service pistol]] is used by the Cylons on New Caprica. This is the gun that Doral shoots Caprica Six with and threatens Baltar with in "[[Precipice]]". It is also the same gun that Gaeta almost shoots Baltar with in "[[Exodus, Part II]]" and in turn almost shoots D'Anna. The gun was probably chosen for the futuristic "rocketeer" shape and because it is extremely inexpensive as a military surplus collectible. Interestingly this gun is very reliable, extremely accurate and is about as effective at penetrating armor as the FN Five SeveN, which costs about ten times as much.

Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] has a large collection of older firearms in her office. Among her pistols are a [[w:Luger P08 pistol|9mm Luger Parabellum]] (P08) and a Webley Model 1909 ("[[Pegasus]]", "[[The Captain's Hand]]").

==Submachine guns==

[[Image:UMP Skorpion Resistance.JPG|thumb|Thrace's Skorpions and Anders's UMP ([[Resistance]])]]
One of the real firearms that was seen on a regular basis in ''Battlestar Galactica'''s first season is the Belgian [[Wikipedia:FN_P90|Fabrique Nationale P90 submachine gun]] which is seen in the hands of the Colonial security forces and [[Marines]] of ''Galactica''. The weapon is notable for its unusual 5.7x28 round, designed to pierce body armor. Its unusual magazine placement and design (resting on top with rounds perpendicular to the barrel) means each cartridge is rotated 90 degrees as it is fed.

The FN P90 submachine gun is featured extensively [[Wikipedia:Stargate SG-1|''Stargate SG-1'']] and [[Wikipedia:Stargate Atlantis|''Stargate Atlantis'']] (which are also filmed in Vancouver alongside ''Battlestar Galactica''). In Season 2, the P90 was replaced by a different weapon (see Rifles and Carbines).

[[Image:Thompson SubmachineGun.jpg|thumb|right|Thompson submachine gun in Cain's office ([[The Captain's Hand]]).]]
Another real-life submachine guns that made an appearance is the German [[Wikipedia:HK UMP|Heckler & Koch UMP]]. In the episode "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", [[Samuel Anders]] is armed with one. It is also in use by ''Pegasus's'' Marines. Other weapons seen this episode are the Czech [[Wikipedia:Skorpion|Skorpion machine pistol]], wielded akimbo by Starbuck, and the American [[Wikipedia:Ruger MP9|Ruger MP9]] being wielded by Helo when the two characters encounter Samuel Anders and his resistance fighters.<br/>
The Skorpion is also carried by Chief Tyrol during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

The [[Wikipedia:Beretta Model 12|Beretta Model 12]] submachine gun is used by Anders's resistance fighters.

In "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", both Major [[Lee Adama|Adama]] and Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]] are armed with Heckler & Koch [[Wikipedia:MP7|MP7A1]] Personal Defense Weapons, mounted with ELCAN C79 optical sights. The MP7A1 and C79 sight are further examples of weaponry and equipment seen in ''Stargate SG-1''. Additionally, the fighters on the [[algae planet]], including Adama and Anders, are equipped with the MP7 and sight combination ([[Rapture]]).

Admiral Cain has a [[w:Thompson submachine gun|Thompson submachine gun]] in her gun collection.

A slightly dressed up [[w:TEC-9|TEC-9]] appears as the sidearm of First Cylon War era [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]]. ([[Razor Flashbacks]], episode 4)

==Shotguns==

Another real firearm seen in the first season is the American [[Wikipedia:Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500]] pump-action shotgun, specifically a 12-gauge bullpup variant, seen in the episode "[[Bastille Day]]" in the hands of the prisoners on the ''[[Astral Queen]]'' after they overwhelm the guards and take control of the ship. None of the bullpup variants are available anymore as of 2006.

The [[Wikipedia:DAO-12|Protecta/Striker shotgun]] is used in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]", "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]" and "[[Home]]", although it appears as a grenade launcher. This is the weapon with the drum magazine which Boomer uses to save Apollo's life on Kobol. It is frequently featured in many Hollywood movies due to its distinctive appearance.

A short-barreled pump action shotgun (which closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Ithaca 37|Ithaca Model 37 pump-action shotgun]]) with forward pistol grip is used by the bartender in the deleted flashback scenes in "[[Scattered]]".

==Rifles and Carbines==
[[Image:Cx4Storm.jpg|thumb|left|Baltar with a Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine ([[Fragged]]).]]
The British [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80 bullpup assault rifle]] is carried by a Colonial military honor guard at Zak Adama's funeral in "[[Act of Contrition]]". The [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80]] is the current, standard-issue infantry rifle of the British armed forces and has been in British military service since 1985.<br>
The SA-80s in "Act of Contrition" appear to be without the standard, [[Wikipedia:British Army | British Army]] issue [[Wikipedia: SUSAT | SUSAT]] telescopic sight, and the iron foresight and rear-sight/carry handle are not in use despite the fact that SA-80s without the SUSAT sight are seen with the foresight and rear-sight/carry handle unfolded and in use. In "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]" and "[[The Farm]]", the resistance fighters on Caprica are armed with SA-80s alongside other firearms. The SA-80s used by the resistance fighters in these two episodes appear to have SUSAT sights fitted on the rifles.

The Italian [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine]] is one of the main small arms the Colonial military uses in the Re-imagined ''Battlestar Galactica'' with Starbuck using a Cx4 to shoot at [[Tom Zarek]] on the ''Astral Queen'' ([[Bastille Day]]). In "[[Fragged]]", [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]], the others stranded on Kobol, and various Colonial Marines throughout the series are armed with them as well. (It is probable that the Cx4 has replaced the P-90 as the standard Colonial longarm in the series's production, most likely due to the P-90s already being well known through their extensive use on ''Stargate SG-1'' and ''Stargate Atlantis'').
The Cx4s that are seen in ''Battlestar Galactica'' are fitted with specially-made accessories which go the length of the exposed barrel. Aside from this, the carbines are fitted with real-life tactical lights and AimPoint Red-Dot scopes.

Besides automatic and semi-automatic rifles, one of the resistance fighters on Caprica in the episode "Resistance" is armed with a bolt-action rifle. From the look of its action, the rifle appears to be an American [[Wikipedia:Remington 700|Remington Model 700]] fitted with a Choate Ultimate Sniper/Target tactical rifle stock and a third-party telescopic sight. It is possible that the bolt-action rifle is a standard-issue Colonial military sniper rifle (possibly [[Colonial Marine Corps]] issue) since Anders and his resistance fighters raided Colonial military armories on Caprica for firearms, ammunition and other weapons to fight the Cylons.

In the episodes "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]" and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]", Starbuck is using a [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch G36|Heckler & Koch G36K]] while at the same time, a member of the resistance is using a [[Wikipedia:AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-type rifle. The G36 is, in its standard version, the service rifle of the German and Spanish armed forces. The Kalashnikov-type rifle that is seen in the hands of Anders' resistance fighters on Caprica in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" and in a few episodes of Season 3 in the hands of one of the members of the New Caprica Resistance is a Chinese-made, NORINCO Type 84S rifle chambered in 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington.

In the Miniseries, the Colonial security personnel on ''Galactica'' are armed with a bullpup assault rifle. It bears a resemblance to a short-barreled [[Wikipedia: FAMAS|FAMAS]] with a [[Wikipedia:Picatinny rail|Picatinny rail]] mount. This rifle was actually designed by Masamune Shirow for the ''Dominion: Conflict'' comic series, and is known as the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/mn-23/mn1.html Seburo MN-23].

The weapon possessed by [[Leoben Conoy]] at Ragnar Station is a fictional variant of the [[Wikipedia:AR-15|AR-15]], known as the Close Quarters Battle Weapon Type Zero, aka the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/raisen/rai_1.html "Raisen"]. It is a model gun designed by Poseidon Industries of Japan (see link).

Besides the military-issue rifles and carbines that have been seen in Season 2, civilian rifles have made an appearance. One example can be seen in "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", when one of Anders' resistance fighters is armed with a semi-automatic, civilian hunting rifle fitted with a telescopic sight. From the look of the rifle, it appears that the rifle is a [http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7400.asp Remington Model 7400] semi-automatic hunting rifle that had part of the rearsight removed in order for the telescopic sight to be fitted. This rifle may have come from either the hunters or survivalists that were picked up by the resistance after the Cylon attack.

== Related Imagery ==

<gallery>
Image:L85Enfield Resistance.JPG|SA-80 Rifle with SUSAT <br>sight ([[Resistance]])    
Image:SA80Honorguard AoC.JPG|SA-80 Rifles without <br>SUSAT sights <br> ([[Act of Contrition]])    
Image:StarbuckG36K.jpg|H&K G-36K <br>([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])    
Image:BARifle Resistance.JPG|Accuracy Systems Ultimate 700 Sniper<ref>[http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/cust_remington_700.php Accuracy Systems: Custom Remington 700 Rifles]</ref> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Stallion HomePII.JPG|Stallion pepperbox <br> ([[Home, Part II]])    
Image:MP9 Resistance.JPG|Ruger MP-9 <br> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Skorpion Resistance.JPG|Sa vz.61 Skorpion <br> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:CainsWeapons.jpg|Revolvers, flintlocks, and semiautomatics in Admiral [[Helena Cain]]'s collection ([[Pegasus]]).    

</gallery>

==References==
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Small arms

2007-10-27T20:04:48Z

Kregano: /* Related Imagery */

{{POV Real}}

:''The following article lists many of the real world weapons used as props in the series. For a more general article on the weapons technology of ''Battlestar Galactica'' see: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]''

Not much description has been given about the small arms that are used in the re-imagined ''Battlestar Galactica'', but nearly all of the firearms that the Colonial forces carry are real weapons, either used without modifications or slightly changed to make them less recognizable.

==Handguns==
[[Image:OldPistol Resistance.JPG|thumb|left|Early style pistol ([[Resistance]]).]]
The standard-issue Colonial sidearm (introduced in the [[Miniseries]]) is according to Ron Moore's commentary an exact replica of the (fictional) sidearm used in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]'' (also starring [[Edward James Olmos]]). The standard service handgun used by the Colonial forces appears to be a modernized version of the [[Wikipedia:LeMat|LeMat revolver]] of the US Civil War, with a revolver-like pistol grip and a large barrel beneath the primary barrel. From closer examination of the handgun, it appears that the handgun used in the Miniseries and Season 1 was built around a [[Wikipedia:Smith & Wesson|Smith & Wesson]] K-Frame or L-Frame revolver. This sidearm is nicknamed the "Colonial Clamshell" by a propmaster in David Eick's 18th video blog.

It seems that, starting in the early second season the original sidearms have been nearly completely replaced by the [[Wikipedia:Five-seveN|Fabrique Nationale Five-seveN]], also dressed up with an underbarrel explosive launcher. This changeover allows for real semi-automatic fire and on-screen reloads ([[Home, Part II]]), and makes use of the existing stores of 5.7 x 28 mm (FN P-90) blank ammunition.
[[Image:Sidearm Flightofthephoenix.JPG|thumb|Apollo, Starbuck, and Hotdog on the [[firing range]] with FN Five-seveNs ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).]]

The [[Wikipedia:HK P9|Heckler & Koch P9]] is seen, along with an [http://www.weapon.envy.nu/gun/int.html Intratec Cat-9] in "[[Colonial Day]]".

The [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg54-e.htm Vektor CP1] has also made several appearances ("[[Bastille Day]]", "[[Black Market]]", "[[Sacrifice]]"); this is odd given a safety recall issued in 2000.

Samuel Anders can been seen with the [[Wikipedia:MK23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23]] ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]) and the Israeli [[Wikipedia:Desert Eagle|Desert Eagle]] ([[Downloaded]]).

The Russian-made [[Wikipedia:Makarov PM|Makarov PM]] handgun and the Russian-made Stechkin APS handgun have made an appearance in the Season 2 episode "[[Sacrifice]]".

The [[Stallion]] appears "[[Home, Part II]]". Based on the COP 357 Derringer <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Single-Shot-Pistols/COP_357.htm|title=COP 357 Derringer|date=|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=HTML|language=en}}</ref>, designed as a police off-duty/backup weapon, this four shot derringer fires .357 Magnum rounds. The name "Stallion" may be a production in-joke on the Marushin's model name, "COP 357", whose name is shared in part with the ubiquitous ''Colt'' .357 handgun. This pistol was also used in ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]''.

A very slightly disguised Czech [[w:Vz 52 (pistol)|CZ-52 service pistol]] is used by the Cylons on New Caprica. This is the gun that Doral shoots Caprica Six with and threatens Baltar with in "[[Precipice]]". It is also the same gun that Gaeta almost shoots Baltar with in "[[Exodus, Part II]]" and in turn almost shoots D'Anna. The gun was probably chosen for the futuristic "rocketeer" shape and because it is extremely inexpensive as a military surplus collectible. Interestingly this gun is very reliable, extremely accurate and is about as effective at penetrating armor as the FN Five SeveN, which costs about ten times as much.

Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] has a large collection of older firearms in her office. Among her pistols are a [[w:Luger P08 pistol|9mm Luger Parabellum]] (P08) and a Webley Model 1909 ("[[Pegasus]]", "[[The Captain's Hand]]").

==Submachine guns==

[[Image:UMP Skorpion Resistance.JPG|thumb|Thrace's Skorpions and Anders's UMP ([[Resistance]])]]
One of the real firearms that was seen on a regular basis in ''Battlestar Galactica'''s first season is the Belgian [[Wikipedia:FN_P90|Fabrique Nationale P90 submachine gun]] which is seen in the hands of the Colonial security forces and [[Marines]] of ''Galactica''. The weapon is notable for its unusual 5.7x28 round, designed to pierce body armor. Its unusual magazine placement and design (resting on top with rounds perpendicular to the barrel) means each cartridge is rotated 90 degrees as it is fed.

The FN P90 submachine gun is featured extensively [[Wikipedia:Stargate SG-1|''Stargate SG-1'']] and [[Wikipedia:Stargate Atlantis|''Stargate Atlantis'']] (which are also filmed in Vancouver alongside ''Battlestar Galactica''). In Season 2, the P90 was replaced by a different weapon (see Rifles and Carbines).

[[Image:Thompson SubmachineGun.jpg|thumb|right|Thompson submachine gun in Cain's office ([[The Captain's Hand]]).]]
Another real-life submachine guns that made an appearance is the German [[Wikipedia:HK UMP|Heckler & Koch UMP]]. In the episode "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", [[Samuel Anders]] is armed with one. It is also in use by ''Pegasus's'' Marines. Other weapons seen this episode are the Czech [[Wikipedia:Skorpion|Skorpion machine pistol]], wielded akimbo by Starbuck, and the American [[Wikipedia:Ruger MP9|Ruger MP9]] being wielded by Helo when the two characters encounter Samuel Anders and his resistance fighters.<br/>
The Skorpion is also carried by Chief Tyrol during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

The [[Wikipedia:Beretta Model 12|Beretta Model 12]] submachine gun is used by Anders's resistance fighters.

In "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", both Major [[Lee Adama|Adama]] and Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]] are armed with Heckler & Koch [[Wikipedia:MP7|MP7A1]] Personal Defense Weapons, mounted with ELCAN C79 optical sights. The MP7A1 and C79 sight are further examples of weaponry and equipment seen in ''Stargate SG-1''. Additionally, the fighters on the [[algae planet]], including Adama and Anders, are equipped with the MP7 and sight combination ([[Rapture]]).

Admiral Cain has a [[w:Thompson submachine gun|Thompson submachine gun]] in her gun collection.

==Shotguns==

Another real firearm seen in the first season is the American [[Wikipedia:Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500]] pump-action shotgun, specifically a 12-gauge bullpup variant, seen in the episode "[[Bastille Day]]" in the hands of the prisoners on the ''[[Astral Queen]]'' after they overwhelm the guards and take control of the ship. None of the bullpup variants are available anymore as of 2006.

The [[Wikipedia:DAO-12|Protecta/Striker shotgun]] is used in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]", "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]" and "[[Home]]", although it appears as a grenade launcher. This is the weapon with the drum magazine which Boomer uses to save Apollo's life on Kobol. It is frequently featured in many Hollywood movies due to its distinctive appearance.

A short-barreled pump action shotgun (which closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Ithaca 37|Ithaca Model 37 pump-action shotgun]]) with forward pistol grip is used by the bartender in the deleted flashback scenes in "[[Scattered]]".

==Rifles and Carbines==
[[Image:Cx4Storm.jpg|thumb|left|Baltar with a Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine ([[Fragged]]).]]
The British [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80 bullpup assault rifle]] is carried by a Colonial military honor guard at Zak Adama's funeral in "[[Act of Contrition]]". The [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80]] is the current, standard-issue infantry rifle of the British armed forces and has been in British military service since 1985.<br>
The SA-80s in "Act of Contrition" appear to be without the standard, [[Wikipedia:British Army | British Army]] issue [[Wikipedia: SUSAT | SUSAT]] telescopic sight, and the iron foresight and rear-sight/carry handle are not in use despite the fact that SA-80s without the SUSAT sight are seen with the foresight and rear-sight/carry handle unfolded and in use. In "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]" and "[[The Farm]]", the resistance fighters on Caprica are armed with SA-80s alongside other firearms. The SA-80s used by the resistance fighters in these two episodes appear to have SUSAT sights fitted on the rifles.

The Italian [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine]] is one of the main small arms the Colonial military uses in the Re-imagined ''Battlestar Galactica'' with Starbuck using a Cx4 to shoot at [[Tom Zarek]] on the ''Astral Queen'' ([[Bastille Day]]). In "[[Fragged]]", [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]], the others stranded on Kobol, and various Colonial Marines throughout the series are armed with them as well. (It is probable that the Cx4 has replaced the P-90 as the standard Colonial longarm in the series's production, most likely due to the P-90s already being well known through their extensive use on ''Stargate SG-1'' and ''Stargate Atlantis'').
The Cx4s that are seen in ''Battlestar Galactica'' are fitted with specially-made accessories which go the length of the exposed barrel. Aside from this, the carbines are fitted with real-life tactical lights and AimPoint Red-Dot scopes.

Besides automatic and semi-automatic rifles, one of the resistance fighters on Caprica in the episode "Resistance" is armed with a bolt-action rifle. From the look of its action, the rifle appears to be an American [[Wikipedia:Remington 700|Remington Model 700]] fitted with a Choate Ultimate Sniper/Target tactical rifle stock and a third-party telescopic sight. It is possible that the bolt-action rifle is a standard-issue Colonial military sniper rifle (possibly [[Colonial Marine Corps]] issue) since Anders and his resistance fighters raided Colonial military armories on Caprica for firearms, ammunition and other weapons to fight the Cylons.

In the episodes "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]" and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]", Starbuck is using a [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch G36|Heckler & Koch G36K]] while at the same time, a member of the resistance is using a [[Wikipedia:AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-type rifle. The G36 is, in its standard version, the service rifle of the German and Spanish armed forces. The Kalashnikov-type rifle that is seen in the hands of Anders' resistance fighters on Caprica in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" and in a few episodes of Season 3 in the hands of one of the members of the New Caprica Resistance is a Chinese-made, NORINCO Type 84S rifle chambered in 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington.

In the Miniseries, the Colonial security personnel on ''Galactica'' are armed with a bullpup assault rifle. It bears a resemblance to a short-barreled [[Wikipedia: FAMAS|FAMAS]] with a [[Wikipedia:Picatinny rail|Picatinny rail]] mount. This rifle was actually designed by Masamune Shirow for the ''Dominion: Conflict'' comic series, and is known as the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/mn-23/mn1.html Seburo MN-23].

The weapon possessed by [[Leoben Conoy]] at Ragnar Station is a fictional variant of the [[Wikipedia:AR-15|AR-15]], known as the Close Quarters Battle Weapon Type Zero, aka the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/raisen/rai_1.html "Raisen"]. It is a model gun designed by Poseidon Industries of Japan (see link).

Besides the military-issue rifles and carbines that have been seen in Season 2, civilian rifles have made an appearance. One example can be seen in "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", when one of Anders' resistance fighters is armed with a semi-automatic, civilian hunting rifle fitted with a telescopic sight. From the look of the rifle, it appears that the rifle is a [http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7400.asp Remington Model 7400] semi-automatic hunting rifle that had part of the rearsight removed in order for the telescopic sight to be fitted. This rifle may have come from either the hunters or survivalists that were picked up by the resistance after the Cylon attack.

== Related Imagery ==

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Image:L85Enfield Resistance.JPG|SA-80 Rifle with SUSAT <br>sight ([[Resistance]])    
Image:SA80Honorguard AoC.JPG|SA-80 Rifles without <br>SUSAT sights <br> ([[Act of Contrition]])    
Image:StarbuckG36K.jpg|H&K G-36K <br>([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])    
Image:BARifle Resistance.JPG|Accuracy Systems Ultimate 700 Sniper<ref>[http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/cust_remington_700.php Accuracy Systems: Custom Remington 700 Rifles]</ref> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Stallion HomePII.JPG|Stallion pepperbox <br> ([[Home, Part II]])    
Image:MP9 Resistance.JPG|Ruger MP-9 <br> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Skorpion Resistance.JPG|Sa vz.61 Skorpion <br> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:CainsWeapons.jpg|Revolvers, flintlocks, and semiautomatics in Admiral [[Helena Cain]]'s collection. ([[Pegasus]])    

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Weapons in the Re-imagined Series

2007-10-27T19:55:25Z

Kregano: /* Small arms */

:''For real-world perspectives on the props and actual weapons adapted for use in the production of the Re-imagined Series, see [[Small arms]].''

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A kinetic energy weapon<ref>This is a Battlestar Wiki [[BW:TERM|descriptive term]], as is its acronym "KEW".</ref> is a weapon that causes damage as a result of the kinetic energy (motion) imparted to a projectile. This includes firearms firing solid bullets first and foremost but may also include guns firing explosive shells.

In fan circles, the battlestar and Viper weapons are sometimes called [[w:railguns|railguns]]. However this has never been stated on screen and a lot of evidence, like the use of chemically propelled rounds, points to them being conventional guns. Indeed, the exact nature of these weapons is still being discussed by the production team (some like [[Gary Hutzel]] want them to be based on railgun technology, while some in the writing staff feel that they are not railguns) <ref name="viperguns">As related by [[Bradley Thompson]] in an [[BW:OC|Official Communiques]] entry on [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive2#Guns_nomenclature|gun nomenclature]].</ref>.

== Colonial battlestar armament ==

=== Main batteries ===

:''Main article: [[Battery]]''

Colonial battlestars are armed with large gun turrets, but their layout varies from class to class. On [[Galactica type battlestar]]s they are mounted on the dorsal surface, whereas [[Mercury class]] battlestars have forward-firing bow batteries, as well as smaller batteries along the sides of the [[flight pod]]s.

These are the main offensive weapon of a battlestar, but are also used to lay down defensive fire against incoming enemy ordnance and fighters.

=== Point defense guns ===

[[Image:Pointdefence 101 1080i.jpg|right|thumb|Some of ''Galactica'''s point defense turrets firing]]
[[Galactica type battlestar]]s are equipped with numerous point defense guns located along the entire sides of the flight pods in twin mountings (the reported number of these varies greatly, with some sources stating 48 and others suggesting more than 500) <ref>Given the exceptionally high rate of fire they exhibit ([[33]]), they are most likely similar in nature to the [[Wikipedia:Phalanx CIWS|Phalanx CIWS]] used by many modern navies, which is a hopper-fed multi-barreled autocannon slaved to a dedicated electronics suite.</ref>.
The entire system is tasked with destroying incoming projectiles. Sensors and expert systems identify and evaluate threats, assigning priorities to them based on data like distance and projected trajectory, while at the same time laying the cannon; this and firing are all done too quickly for a human crew to match.

Although the main batteries are also used to engage incoming fighters and missiles, the point defense guns have a much higher rate of fire, thus making them more effective in that role.

====Drawbacks====
* Ordnance from such weapons is generally dumb: it has no guidance systems. Shots missing a target will continue with the momentum originally imparted to them, thus indiscriminate shooting could result in a high incidence of friendly fire casualties.
**This is the reason [[Lee Adama]] warns his pilots to "keep out of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> firing solution" during the battle at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]) and why he has to back off pursuit of the [[Heavy Raider]] in "[[Scattered]]".
* These types of weapon tend to destroy targets by shredding and shattering them. Therefore, even when the rounds themselves strike their intended target, the space around the defending ship will be filled with shrapnel traveling on the same path as the destroyed target, possibly at high enough velocities as to be dangerous should they strike the defending ship.

=== Missiles ===

Some battlestars, such as ''[[Valkyrie]]'' carry conventional missiles ([[Hero]]). It is unknown whether ''Galactica'' or ''Pegasus'' share this ability, although it is likely that the [[missile tubes]] could also be armed with non-nuclear weapons. Unlike the Cylons however, Colonial battlestars use their gun turrets as main weapon.

At least one ship in the civilian fugitive [[Fleet]], the ''[[Adriatic]]'', has been armed with short range ship-to-ship missiles ([[Home, Part I]]). However, it is lost when traversing a dense star cluster ([[The Passage]]).

=== Nuclear weapons ===

Battlestars carry a number of nuclear warheads. The standard number for a fully equipped battlestar is unknown, but ''Galactica'' still had five warheads at the time of its decommissioning, and was resupplied by ''Pegasus'' with at least four more (after using two).

They are usually fired from the ship's [[missile tubes]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]), but can also be mounted to [[Raptors]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Cylon basestar armament ==

[[Image:Bsmissiles.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon basestar fires a barrage of missiles]]
Whereas the Colonials prefer artillery-style guns, the [[Cylon]]s appear to favor chemically-propelled missiles, that are mainly fired from launchers located in the "arms". Like with the Colonials, the Cylon missiles can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

The [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] also use large masses of [[Raider]]s instead of gun emplacements and appear to have no point defense weaponry.

In their renewed attack on the Twelve Colonies, the Cylons chose to undermine the Colonial Fleet's defense network by adding a backdoor in the Colonial [[Command Navigation Program]]. Otherwise, the new war may have been either a protracted or short event, as several battlestars working together with their batteries will likely shred any offensive and defensive abilities of an equal number of basestars over time. An illustrated example of this is the two-on-two [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship|battle]] in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]". This is further supported by Adama's feeling that ''Galactica'', even at half-strength, could hold off a pair of baseships while the colonists escape [[New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

== Small craft armament ==

=== Viper and Cylon Raider ===

==== Cannons ====

[[Image:EpiphaniesAmmo.jpg|thumb|right|Viper ammunition manufactured on ''Galactica'' ([[Epiphanies]]).]]
[[Image:KLGAmmo.jpg|thumb|right|Loading a captured Cylon Raider with Colonial ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).]]
[[Image:KLGRaiderCannon.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon Raider's cannon ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).]]
* The [[Viper Mk II]] is equipped with two wing-mounted KEWs.
* The [[Viper Mk VII]] is equipped with two KEWs in the wings and a third in the vertical stabiliser ([[Scattered]]).
* The [[Cylon Raider]] is equipped with two KEWs under the wings close to the fuselage (possibly plus two more of lesser caliber, see below) ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* The [[Heavy Raider]] is equipped two forward-firing 3-barreled KEWs ([[Scattered]]).
* Both Colonial and Cylon KEWs are belt-fed ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

These are most likely [[w:autocannon|autocannon]] systems, with at least some models utilizing belt-fed ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The show's KEW are similar those found in real life in that they use chemical propellant to fire relatively small caliber projectiles from a single barrel at a high rate. The shells themselves can be solid, relying on their high velocities to impact and "shred" the target vehicle or fused to explode on impact. However, Viper ammunition shown on screen are also large enough to be explosive-filled and fused. A mix between armor-piercing slugs and explosive ammunition is also possible <ref name="viperguns"/>. The size of the Mark VII's guns and the profile of the rounds in motion suggest a smaller caliber than those of the Mark II, although the two have been described to share the same ammunition ([[Epiphanies]]); the two guns also appear to differ in their rate of fire.

Viper guns appear to be aimed entirely by the pilot during combat without the aid of any heads-up information being displayed. However, for such a weapon to be effective, the guns themselves would be ''harmonized'' (aligned for accuracy of and desired rate of fire) and the aiming system given a suitable period of ''deflection'' (the effective ability to follow, or "lead" a target into its line of fire).

The [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]] carry at least two KEWs of similar caliber to those of the Mk II [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s. However, there are also two smaller barrels visible on their underside, making for two barrels of different sizes per side. It is possible that these are smaller caliber KEWs. Whereas the larger caliber KEW could be firing explosive rounds, smaller caliber KEWs could be firing slugs. The scene in which [[Kara Thrace]] loads the captured Cylon Raider in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" would seem to support the four gunned Raider hypothesis, as the rounds she is loading are too small for the larger, more prominent barrels' bores, but about right for the smaller barrels. Furthermore, in "[[Epiphanies]]", Viper ammunition is shown to be a typical autocannon round in the 30mm neighborhood, and a much closer match for the Raiders' larger barrels (although they look a little large for the Vipers' gun barrels).<br/>
Visual effects, however indicate that only only two cannons are firing. It is also possible that two of the barrels are sensors of some kind, and that that there is simply a size mismatch between the ammunition and the physical Raider model.

The distinctive glow of this ordnance - red for the Colonials and blue for the Cylons - is the result of interspersed [[w:Tracer ammunition|tracer]] ammunition, used as visual targeting aid by the pilots <ref name="viperguns"/>.

An [[armory]] exists to produce new ammunition on the ship ([[Epiphanies]]).

==== Missiles ====

While Vipers usually rely on their cannons, they can be equipped with missiles - conventional and nuclear - when needed.

Shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]] on the Twelve Colonies, a Raider fires three nuclear missiles from internal bays at ''Galactica'' ([[Miniseries]]).<br/>
During the ground portion of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]], [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] cannibalize parts of their [[Heavy Raider]] in order to create an anti-aircraft missile battery, which is later used to attack a search and rescue mission launched from ''Galactica'' ([[Fragged]]).

Vipers can be seen using missiles during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), in a training exercise ([[Home, Part I]]), and during the [[Battle of New Caprica]], where they are used to destroy Centurion [[guard towers]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

=== Raptor ===

:''Main article: [[Raptor]]''

[[Image:RaptorWeapons.jpg|thumb|left|Raptor weapon pods ([[Exodus, Part II]]).]]

Raptors are usually unarmed, but can be outfitted with nuclear and conventional missiles - either carried under the wings or in a small bomb-bay on the underside - as well as a variety of fuselage-mounted weapon pods containing missiles or cannons.

In addition they are equipped with a number of defensive systems like [[Swallow|decoy drones]], chaffs, flares and an [[ECM]] suite.

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== Handheld weapons ==

=== Small arms ===

[[Image:CainsWeapons.jpg|thumb|right|Part of Admiral Cain's collection ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).]]
The Colonials use a wide variety of pistols, rifles, and machine guns. Most of these are identical to real-world weapons. For a detailed comparison see: ''[[Small arms]]''

The only named sidearm in the series is the [[Stallion]] pistol, which is not military issue, however ([[Home, Part II]]). Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] has a large collection of older hand weapons in her office ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).

[[Image:OldPistol Resistance.JPG|thumb|right|The standard Colonial sidearm ([[Resistance]]).]]
The most distinctive Colonial weapon is the Colonial Fleet standard issue pistol, which comes in two variations. It is a small bore semi-automatic pistol, with a bigger launcher attached under the barrel. This muzzle-loaded launcher can fire a single high-explosive round with each reload. It is carried by both Viper and Raptor pilots on all missions. The design was in use as early as the [[First Cylon War]] ([[Razor Flashbacks|Razor Flashback, episode 4]]).

The ammunition's effectiveness is dependent on the armor of the target. While stranded on Caprica, rounds from Helo's pistol go straight through the head of a Centurion ("[[33]]", "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]"). However, Centurions boarding ''Galactica'' are equipped with better armor and the standard rounds prove to be completely ineffective against the boarding team. Explosive rounds are used by the defenders, which destroy Centurions' heads with a visible explosion. Since ''Galactica'' is not stocked with large amounts of this type of ammunition, it is not standard issue and only used when really necessary ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

On Kobol, the larger explosive rounds launched from a grenade launcher destroy a Centurion in a single shot with a large explosion, while standard pistol rounds are sufficient to disable Centurions ([[Home, Part I]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the resistance fighters use their weapons to disable Centurions from an unspecified range, indicating that either armor piercing rounds are being used, or the Centurions have weaker armor than the aforementioned Centurion boarding party ([[Exodus, Part I]] and [[Exodus, Part II|Part II]]).

In the [[Battle of the Algae Planet]], Colonial small arms and ammunition are again proven to be ineffective, with the explosive rounds being the exception. However, only one explosive round is ever fired during the short ground battle between Colonial and Cylon forces before the Colonials withdraw ([[Rapture]]).

Cylon [[Centurion]]s have a gun integrated into each of their arms, which serve as their main weapon. These guns fire armor piercing rounds of an unspecified caliber at high rates of fire, creating effective suppression fire against oncoming targets
("[[Valley of Darkness]]", "[[Exodus, Part II]]"). Centurions are also capable of sniping enemy targets from long distances ([[Rapture]]). It is unknown whether the arm guns or an unseen sniper rifle are used.

[[Image:Razor Flashback 4.jpg|thumb|Free falling [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurion]] aiming its weapon.]]

[[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] piloting [[Raider (TOS)|Raiders]] during the First Cylon War carried a large caliber submachine gun type weapon. The weapon may have been a human weapon issued to the Cylons before their revolt, since William Adama easily made off with the gun he obtained from a fallen Centurion ([[Razor Flashbacks|Razor Flashback, episode 4]]).

=== Heavy weapons ===

Colonial [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] have been seen using a shoulder-fired missile launcher to engage Centurions ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Centurions deployed on planets use mortars, which are carried on their backs for transport over land ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]").

=== Explosives ===

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] are used by humans in several forms, ranging from small quantities for forcing open doors to larger packs for heavy demolition work.

Furthermore, improvised explosive devices can be constructed with volatile [[tylium]] fuel ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

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Image:HE Ammunition.jpg|High-explosive ammunition for the pistol's launcher ([[Valley of Darkness]])
Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|Marines with a missile launcher ([[Exodus, Part I]]).
Image:CenturionMortar.jpg|Centurions carrying mortars ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).
Image:G4_Occupation.jpg|G-4 explosives ([[Occupation]]).
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== See Also ==
* [[Armory]]
* [[Battery]]
* [[G-4]]
* [[Missile tubes]]
* [[Small arms]]

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Talk:Razor Flashbacks/Archive 1

2007-10-27T16:35:56Z

Kregano:

==Episode 2==

There is no proof the McGavin died at the end. All we see is medics working on her.--[[User:Quig|Quig]] 10:44, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
:To me it looks like the bodies on the stretchers are covered completely with blankets. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:53, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
:: the far body is covered. the one in the forground isn't. you can catch a slight glimpse of her face.--[[User:Quig|Quig]] 11:11, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
::: I'll have to watch it again myself to be sure, but it was apparent to me at least that she probably was a goner. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 12:23, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

The quality of the AVIs I have suck, so I'm not sure. Also, is it just me or are the uniforms somewhat inspired by the Original Series? Particularly some of the ones in the background? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:06, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
:Yeah it's a bit ambiguous. Bodies are carried away and one crewmember goes to one of the stretchers as if that person still lives. On the other hand, it looks like Gavin dies and Adama's reaction seems to reinforce that. Maybe it'll be cleared up the in the next episodes.
:I only really noticed that the flight suits look a bit different with an additional layer. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:13, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
::That vest worn on the flightsuits definately reminds me of the old uniforms. I thought I saw one of the personnel in the back with the stretchers moving out was carrying an IV hooked into her, so she might not be. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 17:19, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

== Episode 3 ==

Anyone appreciate the many homages to the Original Series? One you might not have caught: Look at the Viper pilot helmets. It's the little things that stood out. Like watching TOS, only better. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:04, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
:The music was TOS-like too. It was alright, but I don't like the TOS Cylon Raiders in this context. They even have windows. It makes no sense whatsoever for a machine to control another machine like that. If the Cylons have the resources to build their own stuff like the basestars (which should be explained at some point btw), they can also build ships that fly themselves. I'm not even looking forward to see the TOS Centurions if they don't update their movement. All in all, small things like the uniforms are nice, but taking too much from TOS is a bad idea. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:22, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
:: Actually, it wouldn't be surprising if the Colonials created basestars and Raiders, since we know they did war with one another before the Cylons came along and unified them. So, in light of that, if humans had created the Radiers then having windows on the craft make sense. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:17, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

I loved how they included the two vipers , one coming down from behind to join to the other one after destroying a cyclon ship, they used this one all the time in TOS. --[[User:Eddyed|Eddyed]] 16:11, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

== Columbia armor ==

Anybody notice the extra armor on the bow of the Columbia (I think it's her)? It seems that Columbia either got a refit or was part of a subclass that featured heavier armor. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 17:46, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

Does anyone else think that the Galactica was originally built fully armorplated and parts were blown off in battle or removed after the war. --[[User:Spartan-117|Spartan-117]]
: The ribbing is actually a defensive measure, so that it can better take strikes against the hull. The visible ribbing design is deliberate. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 20:20, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
::Interesting, particularly since the later battlestar types (Valkyrie type and Mercury class) don't have that feature. Do you have a source? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:29, 21 October 2007 (CDT)
:::There are a few discussions with the original CG designers that indicated this. I'll see if I can find them. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:39, 21 October 2007 (CDT)
::::I think what your talking about can be found [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive3]]--[[User:Quig|Quig]] 06:20, 21 October 2007 (CDT)
::''Columbia'' isn't fully armored either. She has more armor than ''Galactica'' in a few places, but visible ribbing as well. That really indicates that is like that on purpose. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:57, 21 October 2007 (CDT)
In that case, why wasn't ''Galactica'' later refitted? Her historical status or some other reason? --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 17:02, 21 October 2007 (CDT)
:Budget cuts, probably. Remember that ''Galactica'' hadn't been refitted with software upgrades either ([[Miniseries]], [[Pegasus (Extended Version)]]).--[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:35, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

==Episode 4==
Was it just me or did Adama have the season 1 clamshell pistol? And what was that gun the Centurion using?--[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 11:35, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

Columbia (TRS)

2007-10-21T22:21:26Z

Kregano: /* First ''Columbia'' */

:''For information on an [[Original Series]] [[Battlestar (TOS)|battlestar]] of the same name, see [[Columbia (TOS)]].''

There have been at least two [[Battlestar (RDM)|battlestar]]s to bear the name '''''Columbia''''' in the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]].

== First ''Columbia'' ==
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| image= Col1.jpg
| race= Colonial
| type= Military
| ftl= Yes
| role= Carrier / battleship hybrid
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, Vipers, Raptors
| status= Destroyed during [[Operation Raptor Talon]]
}}
''Columbia'' is one of the [[Galactica type battlestar|original twelve]]<ref>In the [[Miniseries, Night 1|first night of the Miniseries]], [[Aaron Doral]] mentions that there were twelve [[Galactica type battlestar|''Galactica'' type battlestars]] created during the Cylon War. ''Columbia'' is clearly of the same class as ''Galactica'', and thus belongs to this type.</ref> battlestars created during the [[Cylon War]]. During [[Operation Raptor Talon]], ''Columbia'' is destroyed with all hands by the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] ([[Razor Flashback]], Episode 3).

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== Second ''Columbia'' ==
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| image=
| race= Colonial
| type= Military
| ftl= Yes
| role= Carrier / battleship hybrid
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, Vipers, Raptors
| status= Destroyed in [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon Attack]]
}}
The second ''Columbia'' is of a newer type, featuring integrated command and control systems and Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]'s [[Command Navigation Program]] (CNP). It is reported as lost, along with ''[[Solaria]]'' and ''[[Triton (RDM)|Triton]]'', during the initial moments of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Second Cylon War]].

Adama once served as [[executive officer]] on ''Columbia'' ([[Hero]]). [[Galen Tyrol]] also served on this ship at some point in his long career as an NCO ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).

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==Notes==

* The name ''Columbia'' (derived from the Latin ''columba'', meaning "dove" or "pigeon") is a derivation of the 15th Century Genoan explorer [[Wikipedia:Christopher Columbus|Christopher Columbus]]. While at first glance such an Earth-based name seems an unlikely choice for an "alien" culture, it might be a hint towards a [[Sacred Scrolls#Earth as the true origin of the human species|different version]] of the Twelve Colonies' ancient history.

* In fan fiction, ''Columbia'' is considered the class name of the [[Original Series]] [[Battlestar (TOS)|battlestars]]. This is not substantiated by any [[BW:CJ|official sources]]. Battlestar Wiki does not support this or any other [[fan fiction]].

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2007-10-21T22:02:04Z

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2007-10-20T22:46:24Z

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Talk:Small arms/Archive 1

2007-06-18T01:07:13Z

Kregano:

I'll get some screen captures of some of these later, tonight or tomorrow. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:14, 9 January 2007 (CST)

== "POV" in terms of voice ==

While the article is informative, it's voiced "out-of-universe" and so reads more like a behind-the-scenes article of props than a description of what the weapon might be able to do based on its real-world counterpart or on-screen action. When I run into articles like this, I usually use a References section to move the behind-the-scenes comments or sources out of the way of the main text so that article reads better. Thoughts? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:24, 9 January 2007 (CST)
:Concur. Super-informative, but TONS of real world references. However... without the real world references, is there really much worth commenting on? "The Colonials use various pistols, rifles, and submachine guns, sometimes equipped with various accessories such as grenade launchers." That may be oversimplifying just a tad, but ultimately most of the notability of the small arms is the fact that they use some (particular) real world weapons (or at least props that look like real world weapons). Should there be a split between a "Small arms" article and a "behind the scenes" category "Weapons used in the Series" type article? However, as is stated in the opening paragraph, there's not much canon regarding the small arms, so the in-universe articl would be considerably smaller. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:53, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::SV gives my thoughts exactly, I support splitting it into two articles, a small realworld one, which won't have much. It'd have info on the explosive rounds and such, stuff we know. Then a "Weapons Used in Battlestar Galactica" or somesuch for the real-world gear. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:01, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:As said, the only thing this article has going for it, is what real-life weapons are used. There is really nothing else to say. Having two articles would be alright, even if one will be very short --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::Optionally, we can create a new article, "Props used in Battlestar Galactica". This would discuss the many real-life objects and their origin as this page does with weapons, and add these items. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:58, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:::I don't know. Generally, it's a good idea, but the guns are relatively prominent in the series, so there is a lot of information about them. Maybe enough to warrant an own sub-article in addition to the other props. A way to seperate the "real-world" information a bit could be to create a "behind the scenes" tag like "silly" and "seperate continuity".
:::Alternatively, if an in-universe small arms section is pretty small, we could just keep that information on [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]] and add explosives and the RPG from "Exodus, Part I" to it. Then an own tiny article isn't needed and this one could be renamed/reworded to make out more "behind the scenes" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:33, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::I like it. Small paragraph or two in "Weapons" for in-universe, rename/recatogorize/etc. this article to indicate behind the scenes. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:49, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Sounds like it generates the same effect I'd prefer to keep the voices right. Let's do that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:55, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::::So the voices are telling you that's the way it should be done? (Just don't talk back to the voices, they won't put up with sass.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:02, 11 January 2007 (CST)

== SA-80 comments ==

Are the issues surrounding the SA-80 rifle really relevant to this article? Aside from the fact that they are not entirely accurate (The current A2 version is seen as a marked improvement), these issues are not really important to someone's viewing or understanding of BSG.--[[User:Cohnee|Cohnee]] 05:53, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:Right. I'll remove it --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)

== standard pistol picture requested ==

Does anyone have a really good picture of the standard Colonial pistol? Preferably the Miniseries/early Season 2 version, that was based on a revolver, before they switched to the FN Five-SeveN. I think it's the most "iconic" weapon on BSG and would be a good picture for the general weapons article too. I know there are pics out there of just the weapon, not really screencaps (and not even fan replicas). But the best I could find, is from "Fragged" where Crashdown threatens Cally and Tyrols fires at the Centurions. If nothing turns up I'll use that, but just the pure weapon would be cool. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:04, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:To be honest, I think it'd be best to have a pic of the pistol that's seen most often; ie, the Five-seveN. I know the LeMat version was seen thoughout the miniseries and season one, but I'm pretty sure, scene for scene, we've seen (not scene! :P ) the Five-seveN more often. Either way, I have a couple of caps of both kicking around, whatever we decide. Let me know :) -[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 14:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::There is already a pic of the Five-SeveN there (though if you want a better one look at "Torn"). I just thought it'd be nice to have both. And the "original" is still around in early Season 2 (such as "Valley of Darkness"). I think Apollo even used in "Resurrection Ship, Part I" when he was de-armed in the Raptor. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:39, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::I can get one of the early pistol, there's a good shot in the Miniseries that should work. I'll keep an eye out for a better shot of the FNs too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 18:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::::Yeah, the Mini has some good scenes like when Boomer and Helo hold off the refugees at the Raptor. But all shots I found were very blurry. Guess I could I make my own ones, but I know there are good ones somewhere out there. And now that I think about it, Tyrol's pistol from "Fragged" is likely the semi-auto version as well. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::::There is an excellent side shot of the S1 pistol in "Resistance" when Helo wields the pistol and MP9. I'm not sure what the time code is, because I found the pic on bsgmedia.org's "Resistance" gallery. I'm sure someone with the Season 2.0 DVDs can get the shot. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 20:25, 19 January 2007 (EST)
::::::Aye, I got a screen capture of that when I was getting Skorpion pics. My internet's screwy at the moment (first time I've been online in about 48 hours. I'll upload it when it all stabilizes. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 19:43, 19 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::Excellent news. Can you get shots of the Resistance fighter weapons from that scene? I think Ander's pistol on "Resistance" had an underbarrel launcher too, but the only shot I've found is not very helpful. I think we need to get shots from S3 for the AK type rifle and the arms-cache from "Exodus, part 2". Shots of the Miniseries rifles would be great too. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 23:55, 19 January 2007 (EST)
::::::::Talos, do you mind posting the pistol pic? I see that there are new shots for the rifle, but not the pistol. I've looked at the arms cache scene and I only see a UMP and the AK clone there, so we don't need pics of that scene. Also, I think that we should have a Related Imagery page with 1 shot of each gun, so we don't clutter the page with pics. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 20:33, 4 February 2007 (EST)
:::::::::Crap, forgot all about that, sorry, I'll go do get them now. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 19:44, 4 February 2007 (CST)
::::::::::Excellent. Looks good. And I agree that all further pictures should be added to the gallery --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:44, 5 February 2007 (CST)
:::::::::::Thanks. What I'm thinking is that each section (pistol, rifle, etc) has a pic showing the most used one. The ones I'm looking at are: the two sidearms (pistol), the G-36K and Cx4 Storm (rifle), either the UMP or P-90 (SMG), and the Protecta (shotgun). The rest in the gallery. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:56, 5 February 2007 (CST)
::::::::::::I agree with your idea Talos. You should put the G-36K in the gallery, since it was used for Lay Down Your Burdens and never seen since. The SMG picture now being used is perfect, so put the P90 in the gallery. Also, we should make a new section on this page for gallery discussion, since the pistol request was filled and this thing is getting a bit long. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 12:13, 5 February 2007 (EST)

== Ammo analysis ==

Should we have a section about the various types of ammunition used by small arms? I'm asking because ammo in various episodes have different effects. For example, the explosive rounds in "Valley of Darkness", which might be 12 gauge flares, are only powerful enough to destroy a Centurion's head, while in "Home, part One" a 12 gauge explosive round from the Protecta shotgun causes a large explosion that totally destroys the Centurion. Also Helo's pistol rounds during the restaurant fight scene, which went straight through the Centurion's head and the round he fired in the Miniseries, which have never been seen again.
--[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 11:04, 21 January 2007 (EST)
:This article is more for an out-of-universe comparison to real weapons. If you want to add something about the ammunition you should put it here: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series#Handheld weapons]], because it's strictly in-universe. Though some of what you describe is the result of different Centurion armor. The ones who boarded the ship had heavier armor and thus needed explosive rounds. I already mentioned the HE rounds there, but some expansion doesn't hurt, as the section is very short at the moment. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:13, 21 January 2007 (CST)

== Unknown bolt-action rifle identified ==
[http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/cust_remington_700.php Accuracy Systems Ultimate 700 Sniper]. I think that's the money gun. ;) [[User:Panther|Panther]] 09:44, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for that, Panther. I had a look at the URL you posted up and I found it very interesting, especially in regards to the kind of stuff that can be used to modify both the Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle and the Remington Model 7600/7615 series pump-action rifles (most of the gear for the Model 7600 and Model 7615 are legal in Australia). In fact, I might refer that URL to the my mates over on the Australian section of AssaultWeb.Net.

On another note, Panther. Did you look at the Choate Ultimate Sniper rifle stock that was used on the rifle in "Resistance"? From a closer look at the stock, it appears that the stock was modified to allow the use of detachable rifle magazines - something which is not commonly seen on the rifle stocks Choate Machine and Tool makes. [[User:Roughneck Jase|Roughneck Jase]] 12:58pm, 16 June 2007 (AEST)

== A Quick Question ==
Where did Moore say that the Miniseries/Season pistol was an exact replica of the Bladerunner pistol? The two look nothing alike, though they do share some characteristics. --20:07, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

Small arms

2007-03-06T11:22:45Z

Kregano: /* Rifles and Carbines */

{{POV Real}}

:''The following article lists many of the real world weapons used as props in the series. For a more general article on the weapons technology of ''Battlestar Galactica'' see: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]''

Not much description has been given about the small arms that are used in the Re-imagined ''Battlestar Galactica'', but nearly all of the firearms that the Colonial forces carry are real weapons, either used without modifications or slightly changed to make them less recognizable.

==Handguns==
[[Image:OldPistol Resistance.JPG|thumb|left|Early style pistol ([[Resistance]]).]]
The standard-issue Colonial sidearm (introduced in the [[Miniseries]]) is according to Ron Moore's commentary an excact replica of the (fictional) sidearm used in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]'' (also starring [[Edward James Olmos]]). The standard service handgun used by the Colonial forces appears to be a modernized version of the [[Wikipedia:LeMat|LeMat revolver]] of the US Civil War, with a revolver-like pistol grip and a large barrel beneath the primary barrel. From closer examination of the handgun, it appears that the handgun that was in the Miniseries and Season 1 was built around a [[Wikipedia:Smith & Wesson | Smith & Wesson]] K-Frame or L-Frame revolver. This sidearm is nicknamed the "Colonial Clamshell" by a propmaster in David Eick's 18th video blog.

It seems that, starting in the early second season the original sidearms have been nearly completely replaced by the [[Wikipedia:Five-seveN|Fabrique Nationale Five-seveN]], also dressed up with an underbarrel explosive launcher. This changeover allows for real semi-automatic fire and on-screen reloads ([[Home, Part II]]), and makes use of the existing stores of 5.7 x 28 mm (FN P-90) blank ammunition.
[[Image:Sidearm Flightofthephoenix.JPG|thumb|Apollo, Starbuck, and Hotdog on the [[firing range]] with FN Five-seveNs ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).]]

The [[Wikipedia:HK P9|Heckler & Koch P9]] is seen, along with an [http://www.weapon.envy.nu/gun/int.html Intratec Cat-9] in "[[Colonial Day]]".

The [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg54-e.htm Vektor CP1] has also made several appearances ("[[Bastille Day]]", "[[Black Market]]", "[[Sacrifice]]"); this is odd given a safety recall issued in 2000.

Samuel Anders can been seen with the [[Wikipedia:MK23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23]], a variant of the [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch USP|USP]], ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]) and the Israeli [[Wikipedia:Desert Eagle|Desert Eagle]] ([[Downloaded]]).

The Russian-made [[Wikipedia:Makarov PM|Makarov PM]] handgun and the Russian-made Stechkin APS handgun have made an appearance in the Season 2 episode "[[Sacrifice]]".

The [[Stallion]] appears "[[Home, Part II]]". Based on the COP 357 Derringer <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Single-Shot-Pistols/COP_357.htm|title=COP 357 Derringer|date=|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=HTML|language=en}}</ref>, designed as a police off-duty/backup weapon, this four shot derringer fires .357 Magnum rounds. The name "Stallion" may be a production in-joke on the Marushin's model name, "COP 357", whose name is shared in part with the ubiquitous ''Colt'' .357 handgun. This pistol was also used in ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]''.

A very slightly disguised Czech [[w:Vz 52 (pistol)|CZ-52 service pistol]] is used by the Cylons on New Caprica. This is the gun that Doral shoots Caprica Six with and threatens Baltar with in "[[Precipice]]". It is also the same gun that Gaeta almost shoots Baltar with in "[[Exodus, Part II]]" and in turn almost shoots D'Anna. The gun was probably chosen for the futuristic "rocketeer" shape and because it is extremely inexpensive as a military surplus collectible. Interestingly this gun is very reliable, extremely accurate and is about as effective at penetrating armor as the FN Five SeveN, which costs about ten times as much.

==Submachine guns==

One of the real firearms that was seen on a regular basis in ''Battlestar Galactica'''s first season is the Belgian [[Wikipedia:FN_P90|Fabrique Nationale P90 submachine gun]] which is seen in the hands of the Colonal security forces and [[Marines]] of ''Galactica''. The weapon is notable for its unusual 5.7x28 round, designed to pierce body armor. Its unusual magazine placement and design (resting on top with rounds perpendicular to the barrel) means each cartridge is rotated 90 degrees as it is fed.

The FN P90 submachine gun has also been seen in other science fiction shows like [[Wikipedia:Stargate SG-1|''Stargate SG-1'']] and [[Wikipedia:Stargate Atlantis|''Stargate Atlantis'']] (which are also filmed in Vancouver alongside ''Battlestar Galactica'').

In season two, the P90 was replaced by a different weapon (see Rifles and Carbines).

[[Image:UMP Skorpion Resistance.JPG|thumb|Thrace's Skorpions and Anders's UMP ([[Resistance]])]]
Another real-life submachine guns that made an appearance is the German [[Wikipedia:HK UMP|Heckler & Koch UMP]]. In the episode "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", [[Samuel Anders]] is seen armed with one. It has since been seen in use by ''Pegasus'' Marines. Other weapons seen this episode are the Czech [[Wikipedia:Skorpion|Skorpion machine pistol]], wielded akimbo by Starbuck, and the American [[Wikipedia:Ruger MP9|Ruger MP9]] being wielded by Helo when the two characters encounter Samuel Anders and his resistance fighters.<br/>
The Skorpion is also carried by Chief Tyrol during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

The [[Wikipedia:Beretta Model 12|Beretta Model 12]] submachine gun is used by Anders's resistance fighters.

In "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", both Major [[Lee Adama|Adama]] and Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]] appear to be armed with Heckler & Koch [[Wikipedia:MP7|MP7A1]] Personal Defence Weapons, mounted with ELCAN C79 optical sights. The MP7A1 and C79 sight are further examples of weaponry and equipment seen in ''Stargate SG-1''. Additionally, the fighters on the [[algae planet]], including [[Lee Adama]] and Anders, are equipped with the MP7 and sight combination ([[Rapture]]).

==Shotguns==

Another real firearm seen in the first season of the re-imagined series of ''Battlestar Galactica'' is the American [[Wikipedia:Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500]] pump-action shotgun, specifically a 12-gauge bullpup variant, seen in the episode "[[Bastille Day]]" in the hands of the prisoners on the prison ship ''[[Astral Queen]]'' after they overwhelmed the guards and took control of the ship. None of the bullpup variants are available anymore as of 2006.

The [[Wikipedia:DAO-12|Protecta/Striker shotgun]] is used in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]", "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]" and "[[Home]]", although it appears as a grenade launcher. This is the weapon with the drum magazine which Boomer uses to save Apollo's life on Kobol. It is frequently featured in many Hollywood movies due to its distinctive appearance.

A short-barrelled pump action shotgun (which closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Ithaca 37|Ithaca Model 37 pump-action shotgun]]) with forward pistol grip is used by the bartender in the deleted flashback scenes in "[[Scattered]]".

==Rifles and Carbines==
[[Image:Cx4Storm.jpg|thumb|left|Baltar with a Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine ([[Fragged]]).]]
The British [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80 bullpup assault rifle]] is carried by a Colonial military honor guard at Zak Adama's funeral in "[[Act of Contrition]]". The [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80]] is the current, standard-issue infantry rifle of the British armed forces and has been in British military service since 1985.<br>
The SA-80s in "Act of Contrition" appear to be without the standard, [[Wikipedia:British Army | British Army]] issue [[Wikipedia: SUSAT | SUSAT]] telescopic sight, and the iron foresight and rear-sight/carry handle are not in use despite the fact that SA-80s without the SUSAT sight are seen with the foresight and rear-sight/carry handle unfolded and in use. In "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]" and "[[The Farm]]", the resistance fighters on Caprica are armed with SA-80s alongside other firearms. The SA-80s used by the resistance fighters in these two episodes appear to have SUSAT sights fitted on the rifles.

Starbuck uses an Italian [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine]] to shoot at [[Tom Zarek]] on the ''Astral Queen'' ([[Bastille Day]]). In "[[Fragged]]", [[Gaius Baltar]], Chief Tyrol, the others stranded on Kobol, and various Colonial Marines throughout the series are armed with them as well. (It is probable that the Cx4 has replaced the P-90 as the standard Colonial longarm in the series's production, most likely due to the P-90s already being well known through their extensive use on ''Stargate SG-1'' and ''Stargate Atlantis'').
The Cx4s that are seen in ''Battlestar Galactica'' are fitted with specially-made accessories which go the length of the exposed barrel. Aside from this, the carbines are fitted with real-life tactical lights and AimPoint Red-Dot scopes.

Besides automatic and semi-automatic rifles, one of the resistance fighters on Caprica in the episode "Resistance" is armed with a bolt-action rifle. From the look of its action, the rifle appears to be an American [[Wikipedia:Remington 700|Remington Model 700]] fitted with a Choate Ultimate Sniper/Target tactical rifle stock and a third-party telescopic sight. It is possible that the bolt-action rifle is a standard-issue Colonial military sniper rifle (possibly [[Colonial Marine Corps]] issue) since Anders and his resistance fighters raided Colonial military armories on Caprica for firearms, ammunition and other weapons to fight the Cylons.

In the episodes "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]" and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]", Starbuck is using a [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch G36|Heckler & Koch G36K]] while at the same time, a member of the resistance is using a [[Wikipedia:AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-type rifle. The G36 is, in its standard version, the service rifle of the German Armed Forces and the Spanish Army. The Kalashnikov-type rifle that is seen in the hands of Anders' resistance fighters on Caprica in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" and in a few episodes of Season 3 in the hands of one of the members of the New Caprica Resistance is a Chinese-made, NORINCO Type 84S rifle chambered in 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington.

In the Miniseries, the Colonial security personnel on ''Galactica'' are armed with a bullpup assault rifle. It bears a resemblance to a short-barreled [[Wikipedia: FAMAS|FAMAS]] with a [[Wikipedia:Picatinny rail|Picatinny rail]] mount. This rifle was actually designed by Masamune Shirow for the ''Dominion: Conflict'' comic series, and is known as the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/mn-23/mn1.html Seburo MN-23].

The weapon possessed by [[Leoben Conoy]] at Ragnar Station is a fictional variant of the [[Wikipedia:AR-15|AR-15]], known as the Close Quarters Battle Weapon Type Zero, aka the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/raisen/rai_1.html "Raisen"]. It is a model gun designed by Poseidon Industries of Japan (see link).

Besides the military-issue rifles and carbines that have been seen in Season 2, civilian rifles have made an appearance. One example can be seen in "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", when one of Anders' resistance fighters is armed with a semi-automatic, civilian hunting rifle fitted with a telescopic sight. From the look of the rifle, it appears that the rifle is a [http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7400.asp Remington Model 7400] semi-automatic hunting rifle that had part of the rearsight removed in order for the telescopic sight to be fitted. This rifle may have come from either the hunters or survivalists that were picked up by the resistance after the Cylon attack.

== Related Imagery ==

<gallery>
Image:L85Enfield Resistance.JPG|SA-80 Rifle with SUSAT <br>sight ([[Resistance]])    
Image:SA80Honorguard AoC.JPG|SA-80 Rifles without <br>SUSAT sights <br> ([[Act of Contrition]])    
Image:StarbuckG36K.jpg|H&K G-36K <br>([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])    
Image:BARifle Resistance.JPG|Unknown bolt-action rifle ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Stallion HomePII.JPG|Stallion pepperbox <br> ([[Home, Part II]])    
Image:MP9 Resistance.JPG|Ruger MP-9 <br> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Skorpion Resistance.JPG|Sa vz.61 Skorpion <br> ([[Resistance]])    

</gallery>

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2007-02-10T14:15:59Z

Kregano:

Post your ''Battlestar Wiki'' related announcements here! Portals and collaborations should be listed in their sections at the bottom. New initiatives, proposals, discussions, or article drives should be listed under "Notices".
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'''Notices'''
* A new BSG (RDM) game is coming from Auran Games and Vivendi in autumn. <ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=157420?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-General-RSS|title=Battlestar Galactica targets autumn|accessdate=2007-02-10|date=2007-02-09}}</ref>
*  SCI FI Announces a BSG spin off prequel series called ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]''.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.scifi.com/sfw/news/sfw_news_20060501.html|title=SG-1's Anderson Like Old Times|accessdate=2006-07-28|date=2006-05-01}}</ref>
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Small arms

2007-02-05T18:39:24Z

Kregano: /* Rifles and Carbines */

{{POV Real}}

:''The following article lists many of the real world weapons used as props in the series. For a more general article on the weapons technology of ''Battlestar Galactica'' see: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]''

Not much description has been given about the small arms that are used in the Re-imagined ''Battlestar Galactica'', but nearly all of the firearms that the Colonial forces carry are real weapons, either used without modifications or slightly changed to make them less recognizable.

==Handguns==
[[Image:OldPistol Resistance.JPG|thumb|left|Early style pistol ([[Resistance]]).]]
The standard-issue Colonial sidearm (introduced in the [[Miniseries]]) is according to Ron Moore's commentary an excact replica of the (fictional) sidearm used in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]'' (also starring [[Edward James Olmos]]). The standard service handgun used by the Colonial forces appears to be a modernized version of the [[Wikipedia:LeMat|LeMat revolver]] of the US Civil War, with a revolver-like pistol grip and a large barrel beneath the primary barrel. From closer examination of the handgun, it appears that the handgun that was in the Miniseries and Season 1 was built around a [[Wikipedia:Smith & Wesson | Smith & Wesson]] K-Frame or L-Frame revolver. This sidearm is nicknamed the "Colonial Clamshell" by a propmaster in David Eick's 18th video blog.

It seems that, starting in the early second season the original sidearms have been nearly completely replaced by the [[Wikipedia:Five-seveN|Fabrique Nationale Five-seveN]], also dressed up with an underbarrel explosive launcher. This changeover allows for real semi-automatic fire and on-screen reloads ([[Home, Part II]]), and makes use of the existing stores of 5.7 x 28 mm (FN P-90) blank ammunition.
[[Image:Sidearm Flightofthephoenix.JPG|thumb|Apollo, Starbuck, and Hotdog on the [[firing range]] with FN Five-seveNs ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).]]

The [[Wikipedia:HK P9|Heckler & Koch P9]] is seen, along with an [http://www.weapon.envy.nu/gun/int.html Intratec Cat-9] in "[[Colonial Day]]".

The [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg54-e.htm Vektor CP1] has also made several appearences ("[[Bastille Day]]", "[[Black Market]]", "[[Sacrifice]]"); this is odd given a safety recall issued in 2000.

Samuel Anders can been seen with the [[Wikipedia:MK23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23]], a variant of the [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch USP|USP]], ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]) and the Israeli [[Wikipedia:Desert Eagle|Desert Eagle]] ([[Downloaded]]).

The Russian-made [[Wikipedia:Makarov PM|Makarov PM]] handgun and the Russian-made Stechkin APS handgun have made an appearance in the Season 2 episode "[[Sacrifice]]".

The [[Stallion]] appears "[[Home, Part II]]". Based on the COP 357 Derringer <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Single-Shot-Pistols/COP_357.htm|title=COP 357 Derringer|date=|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=HTML|language=en}}</ref>, designed as a police off-duty/backup weapon, this four shot derringer fires .357 Magnum rounds. The name "Stallion" may be a production in-joke on the Marushin's model name, "COP 357", whose name is shared in part with the ubiquitous ''Colt'' .357 handgun. This pistol was also used in ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]''.

==Submachine guns==

One of the real firearms that was seen on a regular basis in ''Battlestar Galactica'''s first season is the Belgian [[Wikipedia:FN_P90|Fabrique Nationale P90 submachine gun]] which is seen in the hands of the Colonal security forces and [[Marines]] of ''Galactica''. The weapon is notable for its unusual 5.7x28 round, designed to pierce body armor. Its unusual magazine placement and design (resting on top with rounds perpendicular to the barrel) means each cartridge is rotated 90 degrees as it is fed.

The FN P90 submachine gun has also been seen in other science fiction shows like [[Wikipedia:Stargate SG-1|''Stargate SG-1'']] and [[Wikipedia:Stargate Atlantis|''Stargate Atlantis'']] (which are also filmed in Vancouver alongside ''Battlestar Galactica'').

In season two, the P90 was replaced by a different weapon (see Rifles and Carbines).

[[Image:UMP Skorpion Resistance.JPG|thumb|Thrace's Skorpions and Anders's UMP ([[Resistance]])]]
Another real-life submachine guns that made an appearance is the German [[Wikipedia:HK UMP|Heckler & Koch UMP]]. In the episode "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", [[Samuel Anders]] is seen armed with one. It has since been seen in use by ''Pegasus'' Marines. Other weapons seen this episode are the Czech [[Wikipedia:Skorpion|Skorpion machine pistol]], wielded akimbo by Starbuck, and the American [[Wikipedia:Ruger MP9|Ruger MP9]] being wielded by Helo when the two characters encounter Samuel Anders and his resistance fighters.<br/>
The Skorpion is also carried by Chief Tyrol during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

The [[Wikipedia:Beretta Model 12|Beretta Model 12]] submachine gun is used by Anders's resistance fighters.

In "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", both Major [[Lee Adama|Adama]] and Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]] appear to be armed with Heckler & Koch [[Wikipedia:MP7|MP7A1]] Personal Defence Weapons, mounted with ELCAN C79 optical sights. The MP7A1 and C79 sight are further examples of weaponry and equipment seen in ''Stargate SG-1''. Additionally, the fighters on the [[algae planet]], including [[Lee Adama]] and Anders, are equipped with the MP7 and sight combination ([[Rapture]]).

==Shotguns==

Another real firearm seen in the first season of the re-imagined series of ''Battlestar Galactica'' is the American [[Wikipedia:Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500]] pump-action shotgun, specifically a 12-gauge bullpup variant, seen in the episode "[[Bastille Day]]" in the hands of the prisoners on the prison ship ''[[Astral Queen]]'' after they overwhelmed the guards and took control of the ship. None of the bullpup variants are available anymore as of 2006.

The [[Wikipedia:DAO-12|Protecta/Striker shotgun]] is used in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]", "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]" and "[[Home]]". This is the weapon with the drum magazine which Boomer uses to save Apollo's life on Kobol. It is frequently featured in many Hollywood movies due to its distinctive appearance.

A short-barrelled pump action shotgun (which closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Ithaca 37|Ithaca Model 37 pump-action shotgun]]) with forward pistol grip is used by the bartender in the deleted flashback scenes in "[[Scattered]]".

==Rifles and Carbines==
[[Image:Cx4Storm.jpg|thumb|left|Baltar with a Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine ([[Fragged]]).]]
The British [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80 bullpup assault rifle]] is carried by a Colonial military honor guard at Zak Adama's funeral in "[[Act of Contrition]]". The [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80]] is the current, standard-issue infantry rifle of the British armed forces and has been in British military service since 1985.<br>
The SA-80s in "Act of Contrition" appear to be without the standard, [[Wikipedia:British Army | British Army]] issue [[Wikipedia: SUSAT | SUSAT]] telescopic sight, and the iron foresight and rear-sight/carry handle are not in use despite the fact that SA-80s without the SUSAT sight are seen with the foresight and rear-sight/carry handle unfolded and in use. In "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]" and "[[The Farm]]", the resistance fighters on Caprica are armed with SA-80s alongside other firearms. The SA-80s used by the resistance fighters in these two episodes appear to have SUSAT sights fitted on the rifles.

Starbuck uses an Italian [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine]] to shoot at [[Tom Zarek]] on the ''Astral Queen'' ([[Bastille Day]]). In "[[Fragged]]", [[Gaius Baltar]], Chief Tyrol, the others stranded on Kobol, and various Colonial Marines throughout the series are armed with them as well. (It is probable that the Cx4 has replaced the P-90 as the standard Colonial longarm in the series's production, most likely due to the P-90s already being well known through their extensive use on ''Stargate SG-1'' and ''Stargate Atlantis'').<br>
The Cx4s that are seen in ''Battlestar Galactica'' are fitted with specially-made accessories which go the length of the exposed barrel. Aside from this, the carbines are fitted with real-life tactical lights and AimPoint Red-Dot scopes.

Besides automatic and semi-automatic rifles, one of the resistance fighters on Caprica in the episode "Resistance" is armed with a bolt-action rifle. From the look of its action, the rifle appears to be an American [[Wikipedia:Remington 700|Remington Model 700]] fitted with a Choate Ultimate Sniper/Target tactical rifle stock and a third-party telescopic sight. It is possible that the bolt-action rifle is a standard-issue Colonial military sniper rifle (possibly [[Colonial Marine Corps]] issue) since Anders and his resistance fighters raided Colonial military armories on Caprica for firearms, ammunition and other weapons to fight the Cylons.

In the episodes "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]" and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]", Starbuck is using a [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch G36|Heckler & Koch G36K]] while at the same time, a member of the resistance is using a [[Wikipedia:AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-type rifle. The G36 is, in its standard version, the service rifle of the German Armed Forces and the Spanish Army. The Kalashnikov-type rifle that is seen in the hands of Anders' resistance fighters on Caprica in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" and in a few episodes of Season 3 in the hands of one of the members of the New Caprica Resistance is a Chinese-made, NORINCO Type 84S rifle chambered in 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington.

In the Miniseries, the Colonial security personnel on ''Galactica'' are armed with a bullpup assault rifle. It bears a resemblance to a short-barreled [[Wikipedia: FAMAS|FAMAS]] with a [[Wikipedia:Picatinny rail|Picatinny rail]] mount. This rifle was actually designed by Masamune Shirow for the ''Ghost in the Shell'' series, and is known as the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/5F/9wepon/9wepon_1.html CZN-M22 "Nine-Weapon"].

The weapon possessed by [[Leoben Conoy]] at Ragnar Station is a fictional variant of the [[Wikipedia:AR-15|AR-15]], known as the Close Quarters Battle Weapon Type Zero, aka the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/raisen/rai_1.html "Raisen"]. It is a model gun designed by Poseidon Industries of Japan (see link).

Besides the military-issue rifles and carbines that have been seen in Season 2, civilian rifles have made an appearance. One example can be seen in "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", when one of Anders' resistance fighters is armed with a semi-automatic, civilian hunting rifle fitted with a telescopic sight. From the look of the rifle, it appears that the rifle is a [http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7400.asp Remington Model 7400] semi-automatic hunting rifle that had part of the rearsight removed in order for the telescopic sight to be fitted. This rifle may have come from either the hunters or survivalists that were picked up by the resistance after the Cylon attack.

== Related Imagery ==

<gallery>
Image:L85Enfield Resistance.JPG|SA-80 Rifle with SUSAT <br>sight ([[Resistance]])    
Image:SA80Honorguard AoC.JPG|SA-80 Rifles without <br>SUSAT sights <br> ([[Act of Contrition]])    
Image:StarbuckG36K.jpg|H&K G-36K <br>([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])    
Image:BARifle Resistance.JPG|Unknown bolt-action rifle ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Stallion HomePII.JPG|Stallion pepperbox <br> ([[Home, Part II]])    
Image:MP9 Resistance.JPG|Ruger MP-9 <br> ([[Resistance]])    
Image:Skorpion Resistance.JPG|Sa vz.61 Skorpion <br> ([[Resistance]])    

</gallery>

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Talk:Small arms/Archive 1

2007-02-05T17:13:14Z

Kregano: /* standard pistol picture requested */

Talk:Small arms/Archive 1

2007-02-05T01:35:26Z

Kregano: /* standard pistol picture requested */

I'll get some screen captures of some of these later, tonight or tomorrow. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:14, 9 January 2007 (CST)

== "POV" in terms of voice ==

While the article is informative, it's voiced "out-of-universe" and so reads more like a behind-the-scenes article of props than a description of what the weapon might be able to do based on its real-world counterpart or on-screen action. When I run into articles like this, I usually use a References section to move the behind-the-scenes comments or sources out of the way of the main text so that article reads better. Thoughts? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:24, 9 January 2007 (CST)
:Concur. Super-informative, but TONS of real world references. However... without the real world references, is there really much worth commenting on? "The Colonials use various pistols, rifles, and submachine guns, sometimes equipped with various accessories such as grenade launchers." That may be oversimplifying just a tad, but ultimately most of the notability of the small arms is the fact that they use some (particular) real world weapons (or at least props that look like real world weapons). Should there be a split between a "Small arms" article and a "behind the scenes" category "Weapons used in the Series" type article? However, as is stated in the opening paragraph, there's not much canon regarding the small arms, so the in-universe articl would be considerably smaller. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:53, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::SV gives my thoughts exactly, I support splitting it into two articles, a small realworld one, which won't have much. It'd have info on the explosive rounds and such, stuff we know. Then a "Weapons Used in Battlestar Galactica" or somesuch for the real-world gear. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:01, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:As said, the only thing this article has going for it, is what real-life weapons are used. There is really nothing else to say. Having two articles would be alright, even if one will be very short --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::Optionally, we can create a new article, "Props used in Battlestar Galactica". This would discuss the many real-life objects and their origin as this page does with weapons, and add these items. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:58, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:::I don't know. Generally, it's a good idea, but the guns are relatively prominent in the series, so there is a lot of information about them. Maybe enough to warrant an own sub-article in addition to the other props. A way to seperate the "real-world" information a bit could be to create a "behind the scenes" tag like "silly" and "seperate continuity".
:::Alternatively, if an in-universe small arms section is pretty small, we could just keep that information on [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]] and add explosives and the RPG from "Exodus, Part I" to it. Then an own tiny article isn't needed and this one could be renamed/reworded to make out more "behind the scenes" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:33, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::I like it. Small paragraph or two in "Weapons" for in-universe, rename/recatogorize/etc. this article to indicate behind the scenes. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:49, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Sounds like it generates the same effect I'd prefer to keep the voices right. Let's do that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:55, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::::So the voices are telling you that's the way it should be done? (Just don't talk back to the voices, they won't put up with sass.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:02, 11 January 2007 (CST)

== SA-80 comments ==

Are the issues surrounding the SA-80 rifle really relevant to this article? Aside from the fact that they are not entirely accurate (The current A2 version is seen as a marked improvement), these issues are not really important to someone's viewing or understanding of BSG.--[[User:Cohnee|Cohnee]] 05:53, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:Right. I'll remove it --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)

== standard pistol picture requested ==

Does anyone have a really good picture of the standard Colonial pistol? Preferably the Miniseries/early Season 2 version, that was based on a revolver, before they switched to the FN Five-SeveN. I think it's the most "iconic" weapon on BSG and would be a good picture for the general weapons article too. I know there are pics out there of just the weapon, not really screencaps (and not even fan replicas). But the best I could find, is from "Fragged" where Crashdown threatens Cally and Tyrols fires at the Centurions. If nothing turns up I'll use that, but just the pure weapon would be cool. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:04, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:To be honest, I think it'd be best to have a pic of the pistol that's seen most often; ie, the Five-seveN. I know the LeMat version was seen thoughout the miniseries and season one, but I'm pretty sure, scene for scene, we've seen (not scene! :P ) the Five-seveN more often. Either way, I have a couple of caps of both kicking around, whatever we decide. Let me know :) -[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 14:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::There is already a pic of the Five-SeveN there (though if you want a better one look at "Torn"). I just thought it'd be nice to have both. And the "original" is still around in early Season 2 (such as "Valley of Darkness"). I think Apollo even used in "Resurrection Ship, Part I" when he was de-armed in the Raptor. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:39, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::I can get one of the early pistol, there's a good shot in the Miniseries that should work. I'll keep an eye out for a better shot of the FNs too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 18:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::::Yeah, the Mini has some good scenes like when Boomer and Helo hold off the refugees at the Raptor. But all shots I found were very blurry. Guess I could I make my own ones, but I know there are good ones somewhere out there. And now that I think about it, Tyrol's pistol from "Fragged" is likely the semi-auto version as well. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::::There is an excellent side shot of the S1 pistol in "Resistance" when Helo wields the pistol and MP9. I'm not sure what the time code is, because I found the pic on bsgmedia.org's "Resistance" gallery. I'm sure someone with the Season 2.0 DVDs can get the shot. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 20:25, 19 January 2007 (EST)
::::::Aye, I got a screen capture of that when I was getting Skorpion pics. My internet's screwy at the moment (first time I've been online in about 48 hours. I'll upload it when it all stabilizes. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 19:43, 19 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::Excellent news. Can you get shots of the Resistance fighter weapons from that scene? I think Ander's pistol on "Resistance" had an underbarrel launcher too, but the only shot I've found is not very helpful. I think we need to get shots from S3 for the AK type rifle and the arms-cache from "Exodus, part 2". Shots of the Miniseries rifles would be great too. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 23:55, 19 January 2007 (EST)
::::::::Talos, do you mind posting the pistol pic? I see that there are new shots for the rifle, but not the pistol. I've looked at the arms cache scene and I only see a UMP and the AK clone there, so we don't need pics of that scene. Also, I think that we should have a Related Imagery page with 1 shot of each gun, so we don't clutter the page with pics. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 20:33, 4 February 2007 (EST)

== Ammo analysis ==

Should we have a section about the various types of ammunition used by small arms? I'm asking because ammo in various episodes have different effects. For example, the explosive rounds in "Valley of Darkness", which might be 12 gauge flares, are only powerful enough to destroy a Centurion's head, while in "Home, part One" a 12 gauge explosive round from the Protecta shotgun causes a large explosion that totally destroys the Centurion. Also Helo's pistol rounds during the restaurant fight scene, which went straight through the Centurion's head and the round he fired in the Miniseries, which have never been seen again.
--[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 11:04, 21 January 2007 (EST)
:This article is more for an out-of-universe comparison to real weapons. If you want to add something about the ammunition you should put it here: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series#Handheld weapons]], because it's strictly in-universe. Though some of what you describe is the result of different Centurion armor. The ones who boarded the ship had heavier armor and thus needed explosive rounds. I already mentioned the HE rounds there, but some expansion doesn't hurt, as the section is very short at the moment. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:13, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Talk:Small arms/Archive 1

2007-02-05T01:27:43Z

Kregano: /* standard pistol picture requested */

I'll get some screen captures of some of these later, tonight or tomorrow. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:14, 9 January 2007 (CST)

== "POV" in terms of voice ==

While the article is informative, it's voiced "out-of-universe" and so reads more like a behind-the-scenes article of props than a description of what the weapon might be able to do based on its real-world counterpart or on-screen action. When I run into articles like this, I usually use a References section to move the behind-the-scenes comments or sources out of the way of the main text so that article reads better. Thoughts? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:24, 9 January 2007 (CST)
:Concur. Super-informative, but TONS of real world references. However... without the real world references, is there really much worth commenting on? "The Colonials use various pistols, rifles, and submachine guns, sometimes equipped with various accessories such as grenade launchers." That may be oversimplifying just a tad, but ultimately most of the notability of the small arms is the fact that they use some (particular) real world weapons (or at least props that look like real world weapons). Should there be a split between a "Small arms" article and a "behind the scenes" category "Weapons used in the Series" type article? However, as is stated in the opening paragraph, there's not much canon regarding the small arms, so the in-universe articl would be considerably smaller. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:53, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::SV gives my thoughts exactly, I support splitting it into two articles, a small realworld one, which won't have much. It'd have info on the explosive rounds and such, stuff we know. Then a "Weapons Used in Battlestar Galactica" or somesuch for the real-world gear. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:01, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:As said, the only thing this article has going for it, is what real-life weapons are used. There is really nothing else to say. Having two articles would be alright, even if one will be very short --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::Optionally, we can create a new article, "Props used in Battlestar Galactica". This would discuss the many real-life objects and their origin as this page does with weapons, and add these items. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:58, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:::I don't know. Generally, it's a good idea, but the guns are relatively prominent in the series, so there is a lot of information about them. Maybe enough to warrant an own sub-article in addition to the other props. A way to seperate the "real-world" information a bit could be to create a "behind the scenes" tag like "silly" and "seperate continuity".
:::Alternatively, if an in-universe small arms section is pretty small, we could just keep that information on [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]] and add explosives and the RPG from "Exodus, Part I" to it. Then an own tiny article isn't needed and this one could be renamed/reworded to make out more "behind the scenes" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:33, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::I like it. Small paragraph or two in "Weapons" for in-universe, rename/recatogorize/etc. this article to indicate behind the scenes. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:49, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Sounds like it generates the same effect I'd prefer to keep the voices right. Let's do that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:55, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::::So the voices are telling you that's the way it should be done? (Just don't talk back to the voices, they won't put up with sass.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:02, 11 January 2007 (CST)

== SA-80 comments ==

Are the issues surrounding the SA-80 rifle really relevant to this article? Aside from the fact that they are not entirely accurate (The current A2 version is seen as a marked improvement), these issues are not really important to someone's viewing or understanding of BSG.--[[User:Cohnee|Cohnee]] 05:53, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:Right. I'll remove it --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)

== standard pistol picture requested ==

Does anyone have a really good picture of the standard Colonial pistol? Preferably the Miniseries/early Season 2 version, that was based on a revolver, before they switched to the FN Five-SeveN. I think it's the most "iconic" weapon on BSG and would be a good picture for the general weapons article too. I know there are pics out there of just the weapon, not really screencaps (and not even fan replicas). But the best I could find, is from "Fragged" where Crashdown threatens Cally and Tyrols fires at the Centurions. If nothing turns up I'll use that, but just the pure weapon would be cool. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:04, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:To be honest, I think it'd be best to have a pic of the pistol that's seen most often; ie, the Five-seveN. I know the LeMat version was seen thoughout the miniseries and season one, but I'm pretty sure, scene for scene, we've seen (not scene! :P ) the Five-seveN more often. Either way, I have a couple of caps of both kicking around, whatever we decide. Let me know :) -[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 14:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::There is already a pic of the Five-SeveN there (though if you want a better one look at "Torn"). I just thought it'd be nice to have both. And the "original" is still around in early Season 2 (such as "Valley of Darkness"). I think Apollo even used in "Resurrection Ship, Part I" when he was de-armed in the Raptor. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:39, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::I can get one of the early pistol, there's a good shot in the Miniseries that should work. I'll keep an eye out for a better shot of the FNs too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 18:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::::Yeah, the Mini has some good scenes like when Boomer and Helo hold off the refugees at the Raptor. But all shots I found were very blurry. Guess I could I make my own ones, but I know there are good ones somewhere out there. And now that I think about it, Tyrol's pistol from "Fragged" is likely the semi-auto version as well. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::::There is an excellent side shot of the S1 pistol in "Resistance" when Helo wields the pistol and MP9. I'm not sure what the time code is, because I found the pic on bsgmedia.org's "Resistance" gallery. I'm sure someone with the Season 2.0 DVDs can get the shot. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 20:25, 19 January 2007 (EST)
::::::Aye, I got a screen capture of that when I was getting Skorpion pics. My internet's screwy at the moment (first time I've been online in about 48 hours. I'll upload it when it all stabilizes. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 19:43, 19 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::Excellent news. Can you get shots of the Resistance fighter weapons from that scene? I think Ander's pistol on "Resistance" had an underbarrel launcher too, but the only shot I've found is not very helpful. I think we need to get shots from S3 for the AK type rifle and the arms-cache from "Exodus, part 2". Shots of the Miniseries rifles would be great too. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 23:55, 19 January 2007 (EST)
::::::::Talos, do you mind posting the pistol pic? I see that there are new shots for the rifle, but not the pistol. I've looked at the arms cache scene and I only see a UMP and the AK clone there, so we don't need pics of that scene. Also, I think that we should have a Related Imagery page with 1 shot of each gun, so we don't clutter the page with pics.

== Ammo analysis ==

Should we have a section about the various types of ammunition used by small arms? I'm asking because ammo in various episodes have different effects. For example, the explosive rounds in "Valley of Darkness", which might be 12 gauge flares, are only powerful enough to destroy a Centurion's head, while in "Home, part One" a 12 gauge explosive round from the Protecta shotgun causes a large explosion that totally destroys the Centurion. Also Helo's pistol rounds during the restaurant fight scene, which went straight through the Centurion's head and the round he fired in the Miniseries, which have never been seen again.
--[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 11:04, 21 January 2007 (EST)
:This article is more for an out-of-universe comparison to real weapons. If you want to add something about the ammunition you should put it here: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series#Handheld weapons]], because it's strictly in-universe. Though some of what you describe is the result of different Centurion armor. The ones who boarded the ship had heavier armor and thus needed explosive rounds. I already mentioned the HE rounds there, but some expansion doesn't hurt, as the section is very short at the moment. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:13, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Weapons in the Re-imagined Series

2007-02-05T00:54:53Z

Kregano: /* Small arms */

{{RDM science series}}

For easy reference Battlestar Wiki also uses the term "Kinetic Energy Weapon" and its acronym "KEW" to describe some of the weapons uses in the series. However these are not actual terms from within the series.

A kinetic energy weapon is a weapon that causes damage as a result of the kinetic energy (motion) imparted to a projectile. This includes firearms firing solid bullets first and foremost but may also include guns firing explosive shells.

In fan circles, the battlestar and Viper weapons are sometimes called [[w:railguns|railguns]]. However this has never been stated on screen and a lot of evidence, like the use of chemically propelled rounds, points to them being conventional guns. Indeed, the exact nature of these weapons is still being discussed by the production team (some like [[Gary Hutzel]] want them to be based on railgun technology, while some in the writing staff feel that they are not railguns).<ref name = "viperguns">As related by [[Bradley Thompson]] in an [[BW:OC|Official Communiques]] entry on [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive02#Guns_nomenclature|gun nomenclature]].</ref>

== Colonial battlestar armament ==

=== Main batteries ===

:''Main article: [[Battery]]''

Colonial battlestars are armed with large gun turrets, but their layout varies from class to class. On [[Galactica type battlestar]]s they are mounted on the dorsal surface, whereas [[Mercury class]] battlestars have forward-firing bow batteries, as well as smaller batteries along the sides of the [[flight pod]]s.

These are the main offensive weapon of a battlestar, but are also used to lay down defensive fire against incoming enemy ordnance and fighters.

=== Point defense guns ===

[[Image:Pointdefence 101 1080i.jpg|right|thumb|Some of ''Galactica'''s point defense turrets firing]]
[[Galactica type battlestar]]s are equipped with numerous point defense guns located along the entire sides of the flight pods in twin mountings (the reported number of these varies greatly, with some sources stating 48 and others suggesting more than 500). Given the exceptionally high rate of fire they exhibit ([[33]]), they are most likely similar in nature to the [[Wikipedia:Phalanx CIWS|Phalanx CIWS]] used by many modern navies, which is a hopper-fed multi-barreled autocannon slaved to a dedicated electronics suite.<br>
The entire system is tasked with destroying incoming projectiles. Sensors and expert systems identify and evaluate threats, assigning priorities to them based on data like distance and projected trajectory, while at the same time laying the cannon; this and firing are all done too quickly for a human crew to match. Like the Phalanx, the battlestars' point-defense systems do not recognize [[IFF]] signals ([[Scattered]]).

Although the main batteries are also used to engage incoming fighters and missiles, the point defense guns have a much higher rate of fire, thus making them more effective in that role.

====Drawbacks====
* Ordnance from such weapons is generally dumb: it has no guidance systems. Shots missing a target will continue with the momentum originally imparted to them, thus indiscriminate shooting could result in a high incidence of friendly fire casualties.
**This is the reason [[Lee Adama]] warns his pilots to "keep out of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> firing solution" during the battle at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]) and why he has to back off pursuit of the [[Heavy Raider]] in "[[Scattered]]".
* As stated, these types of weapon tend to destroy targets by shredding and shattering them. Therefore, even when the rounds themselves strike their intended target, the space around the defending ship will be filled with shrapnel traveling on the same path as the destroyed target, possibly at high enough velocities as to be dangerous should they strike the defending ship.

=== Missiles ===

Some battlestars, such as ''[[Valkyrie]]'' carry conventional missiles ([[Hero]]). It is unknown whether ''Galactica'' or ''Pegasus'' share this ability, although it is likely that the [[missile tubes]] could also be armed with non-nuclear weapons. Unlike the Cylons however, Colonial battlestars use their gun turrets as main weapon.

At least one ship in the civilian fugitive [[Fleet]], the ''[[Adriatic]]'', has been armed with short range ship-to-ship missiles ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Nuclear weapons ===

Battlestars carry a number of nuclear warheads. The standard number for a fully equipped battlestar is unknown, but ''Galactica'' still had five warheads at the time of its decommissioning, and was resupplied by ''Pegasus'' with at least four more (after using two).

They are usually fired from the ship's [[missile tubes]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]), but can also be mounted to [[Raptors]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Cylon basestar armament ==

[[Image:Bsmissiles.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon basestar fires a barrage of missiles]]
Whereas the Colonials prefer artillery-style guns, the [[Cylon]]s appear to favor chemically-propelled missiles, that are mainly fired from launchers located in the "arms". Like with the Colonials, the Cylon missiles can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

The [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] also use large masses of [[Raider]]s instead of gun emplacements and appear to have no point defense weaponry.

In their renewed attack on the Twelve Colonies, the Cylons chose to undermine the Colonial Fleet's defense network by adding a [[backdoor]] in the Colonial's [[Wikipedia:Achille's Heel|Achille's Heel]]: the [[Command Navigation Program]]. Otherwise, the new war may have been either a protracted or short event, as several battlestars working together with their batteries will likely shred any offensive and defensive abilities of an equal number of basestars over time. An illustrated example of this is the two-on-two battlestar vs. basestar attack in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]". This is further supported by Adama's feeling that ''Galactica'', even at half-strength, could hold off a pair of baseships while the Colonists escape [[New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

== Small craft armament ==

=== Viper and Cylon Raider ===

==== Cannons ====

[[Image:cannon.gif|thumb|right|Autocannon illustration]]
* The [[Viper Mk II]] is equipped with two wing-mounted KEWs.
* The [[Viper Mk VII]] is equipped with two KEWs in the wings and a third in the vertical stabiliser ([[Scattered]]).
* The [[Cylon Raider]] is equipped with two KEWs under the wings close to the fuselage (possibly plus two more of lesser caliber, see below) ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* Both Colonial and Cylon KEWs are belt-fed ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

These are most likely autocannon systems, with at least some models utilizing belt-fed ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The show's KEW are similar those found in real life in that they use chemical propellant to fire relatively small caliber projectiles from a single barrel at a high rate. The shells themselves can be solid, relying on their high velocities to impact and "shred" the target vehicle or fused to explode on impact. However, Viper ammunition shown on screen are also large enough to be explosive-filled and fused; they are also visually identical to real life 20 mm autocannon rounds ([[Epiphanies]]). The size of the Mk VII's guns and the profile of the rounds in motion suggest a smaller caliber than those of the Mk II, although the two have been described to share the same ammunition ([[Epiphanies]]); the two guns also appear to differ in their rate of fire.

Viper guns appear to be aimed entirely by the pilot during combat without the aid of any heads-up information being displayed. However, for such a weapon to be effective, the guns themselves would be ''harmonized'' (aligned for accuracy of and desired rate of fire) and the aiming system given a suitable period of ''deflection'' (the effective ability to follow, or "lead" a target into its line of fire).

The [[Cylon Raider]]s carry at least two KEWs of similar caliber to those of the Mk II [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s. However, there are also two smaller barrels visible on their underside, making for two barrels of different sizes per side. It is possible that these are smaller caliber KEWs. Whereas the larger caliber KEW would be firing explosive rounds, smaller caliber KEWs would be firing slugs. This is a combination common to fighters of the Second World War and the short-lived jet-powered gunfighters of the 1950s. The scene in which [[Kara Thrace]] loads the captured [[Cylon Raider]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" would seem to support the four gunned Raider hypothesis, as the rounds she is loading are way too small for the larger, more prominent barrels' bores, but about right for the smaller barrels. Furthermore, in "[[Epiphanies]]", Viper ammunition is shown to be a typical autocannon round in the 30mm neighborhood, and a much closer match for the Raiders' larger barrels (though ironically, they looked a little large for the Vipers' gun barrels).

The distinctive glow of this ordnance - red for the Colonials and blue for the Cylons - is the result of interspersed [[w:Tracer ammunition|tracer]] ammunition, used as visual targeting aid by the pilots.<ref name="viperguns"/>

==== Missiles ====

While Vipers usually rely on their cannons, they can be equipped with missiles - conventional and nuclear - when needed.

Shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]] on the Twelve Colonies, a Raider fires three nuclear missiles from internal bays at ''Galactica'' ([[Miniseries]]).<br>
During the ground portion of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]], [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] cannibalize parts of their [[Heavy Raider]] in order to create an anti-aircraft missile battery, which is later used to attack a search and rescue mission launched from ''Galactica'' ([[Fragged]]).

Vipers can be seen using missiles during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] ([[The Hand of God]]), in a training exercise ([[Home, Part I]]), and during the [[Battle of New Caprica]], where they are used to destroy Centurion [[guard towers]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

=== Raptor ===

:''Main article: [[Raptor]]''

[[Image:RaptorWeapons.jpg|thumb|left|Raptor weapon pods ([[Exodus, Part II]]).]]

Raptors are usually unarmed, but can be outfitted with nuclear and conventional missiles - either carried under the wings or in a small bomb-bay on the underside - as well as a variety of fuselage-mounted weapon pods containing missiles or cannons.

In addition they are equipped with a number of defensive systems like [[Swallow|decoy drones]], chaffs, flares and an [[ECM]] suite.

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== Handheld weapons ==

=== Small arms ===

The Colonials use a wide variety of pistols, rifles, and machine guns. Most of these are identical to real-world weapons. For a detailed comparison see: ''[[Small arms]]''

The most distinctive Colonial weapon is the standard issue pistol, which comes in two variations. It is a small bore semi-automatic pistol, with a bigger launcher attached under the barrel. This muzzle-loaded launcher can fire a single high-explosive round with each reload. It is carried by both Viper and Raptor pilots on all missions.

The ammunition's effectiveness is dependent on the armor of the target. While stranded on Caprica, rounds from Helo's pistol go straight through the head of a Centurion ("[[33]]", "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]"). However, Centurions boarding ''Galactica'' are equipped with better armor and the standard rounds prove to be completely ineffective against the boarding team. Explosive rounds are used by the defenders, which destroy Centurions' heads with a visible explosion. Since ''Galactica'' is not stocked with large amounts of this type of ammunition, it is not standard issue and only used when really necessary ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

On Kobol, the larger explosive rounds launched from a grenade launcher destroy a Centurion in a single shot with a large explosion, while standard pistol rounds are sufficient to disable Centurions ([[Home, Part I]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the resistance fighters use their weapons to disable Centurions from an unspecified range, indicating that either armor piercing rounds are being used, or the Centurions have weaker armor than the aforementioned Centurion boarding party ([[Exodus, Part I]] and [[Exodus, Part II|Part II]]).

In the [[Battle of the Algae Planet]], Colonial small arms and ammunition are again proven to be ineffective, with the explosive rounds being the exception. However, only one explosive round is ever fired during the short ground battle between Colonial and Cylon forces before the Colonial forces withdraw ([[Rapture]]).

Cylon [[Centurion]]s have a gun integrated into each of their arms, which serve as their main weapon. These guns fire armor piercing rounds of an unspecified caliber at high rates of fire, creating effective suppression fire against oncoming targets
("[[Valley of Darkness]]", "[[Exodus, Part II]]"). Centurions are also capable of sniping enemy targets from long ranges ([[Rapture]]). It is unknown whether the arm guns or an unseen sniper rifle was used.

=== Heavy weapons ===

Colonial [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] have been seen using a shoulder-fired missile launcher to engage Centurions ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Centurions deployed on planets use mortars, which are carried on their backs for transport over land ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]").

=== Explosives ===

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] are used by humans in several forms, ranging from small quantities for forcing open doors to larger packs for heavy demolition work.

Furthermore, improvised explosive devices can be constructed with volatile [[tylium]] fuel ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

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Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|Marines with a missile launcher.
Image:CenturionMortar.jpg|Centurions carrying mortars.
Image:G4_Occupation.jpg|G-4 explosives ([[Occupation]]).
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Galactica type battlestar

2007-02-04T18:55:49Z

Kregano: /* Propulsion */

:''This article discusses the original battlestar class (of which ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' is a member) of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. For information on the battlestars of the Original Series, see [[Battlestar (TOS)]]. For information on the newer ''Mercury'' class battlestars, see [[Mercury class battlestar]].''

{{Ship Data
| image= Bsg-bsg-1.jpg
| race= Colonial
| type= Military
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives<ref name="ftl">'''Tigh:''' "Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two." ([[Miniseries]])</ref>)
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)<ref name="zoic">Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.</ref>
| crew= Approximately 4,000 to 5,000 <ref name="crew">See [[Galactica (RDM)#endnote_originalcrew|Galactica crew count]].</ref>
| role= Capital battleship/carrier
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]
| status= Active (following heavy refits, with one exception)
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1414}}
| width= {{Meters2Feet|555}}<ref name="podtopod">This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.</ref>
| height= {{Meters2Feet|177}}
| otherdi = '''Flight Pod'''<br />'''Length''': {{Meters2Feet|615}}<ref name="pod">Calculated based on elevations made available by Zoic.</ref><br/>'''Width''': {{Meters2Feet|110}}<br/>'''Height''': {{Meters2Feet|64}}
}}

==Overview==
[[Image:Destroyed Battlestar Mini.JPG|thumb|left|Destroyed ''Galactica'' type battlestar ([[Miniseries]])]]
The '''''Galactica'' type battlestar'''<ref>Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads "Galactica class battlestar".</ref> is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and battleship. The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]], each representing one of the [[Twelve Colonies]] ([[Miniseries]]). This article concerns that original, and unnamed, class.

Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service, and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|''Mercury'' class]] represented the top of the line.

The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,640ft (1,414m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.
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==Layout==
The design common to ''Galactica'' and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.

=== Main Hull ===

This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:

The "alligator head" contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]).

The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hanger pods for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).

The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drive coils, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.
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=== Flight Pods ===

:''Main article: [[Flight pod]]''

The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar's [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.

Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).

The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.
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==Specifications==

===Dimensions===
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and ''Nimitz'']]

An appreciation of the size of an original battlestar can be gleaned from a comparison to current Earth craft. A battlestar is over 4 times longer than a [[Wikipedia:Nimitz class aircraft carrier|''Nimitz'']] class nuclear carrier of the US Navy. The flight pod of an original battlestar is almost twice the length of ''Nimitz'', is some 150ft (46m) wider, and is approximately as tall as the ''Nimitz'' is from waterline to the top of the tower. An original battlestar's "alligator head" is as broad as the flight deck of ''Nimitz'' is long. Each of the nacelles of an original battlestar's outer four sublight engines is large enough to contain ''Nimitz''.

===Propulsion===
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|''Galactica'' with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]

:''Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]''

Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall in the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Miniseries]], [[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar's [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet ([[Miniseries]]) and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere ([[Exodus, Part II]]). However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in safe range ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

===Endurance===
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate "for several years before replenishing" ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], [[Water]]). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).

===Computer Systems===

:''Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]''

The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).

On ''Galactica'', in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, William Adama. This no-networks practice likely saved ''Galactica'' from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as ''Galactica's'' no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard ''Galactica'' as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.

In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, ''Galactica'' networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|Jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers' hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).

===Armament===
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]

:''Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]''

*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece)<ref name="flak">These are '''not''' [[w:Railgun|"railguns"]]. No [[BW:CJ|official sources]] use this term to describe these weapons.</ref>
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns have several methods of operation, including "salvo fire" and "full attack mode".
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> point defense turrets]]
*Numerous smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece)<ref name="small">Unsourced figures have ranged from 252 to 512. According to the BSG Magazine, the number is 504. </ref>
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.
*Multiple nuclear warheads<ref name="nukes">As of the episode "[[Bastille Day]]", ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since ''Galactica'' was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that ''Galactica'' was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).</ref>
:Deployed from 12 vertical-launch tubes mounted in the main hull. ([[The Eye of Jupiter]])
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters<ref name="vipers">After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon Attack, ''Galactica'' was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that ''Galactica'', with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod as well.</ref>
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class's launch and recovery facilities.
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles<ref name="raptors">At the time of the Cylon Attack, ''Galactica'' was apparently equipped with at least eight. See [[Galactica (RDM)#endnote_raptors|Galactica Raptor tally]] for a running count.</ref>

===Crew===
''Galactica's'' crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800.<ref name="crew"/> This figure is likely higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.

===Life Support===
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove ("scrub") carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).

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Small arms

2007-01-26T00:54:51Z

Kregano: /* Handguns */

{{POV Real}}

Not much description has been given about the small arms that are used in the Re-imagined ''Battlestar Galactica'', but nearly all of the firearms that the Colonial forces carry are real weapons, either used without modifications or slightly changed to make them less recognizable.

The following article lists many of the real world weapons used as props in the series.

==Handguns==
[[Image:Sidearm Flightofthephoenix.JPG|thumb|left|[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], and [[Brendan Constanza|Hotdog]] on the [[firing range]] with FN Five-seveNs]]
The standard-issue Colonial sidearm (introduced in the [[Miniseries]]) is according to Ron Moore's commentary an excact replica of the (fictional) sidearm used in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]'' (also starring [[Edward James Olmos]]). The standard service handgun used by the Colonial forces appears to be a modernized version of the [[Wikipedia:LeMat|LeMat revolver]] of the US Civil War, with a revolver-like pistol grip and a large barrel beneath the primary barrel. From closer examination of the handgun, it appears that the handgun that was in the Miniseries and Season 1 was built around a [[Wikipedia:Smith & Wesson | Smith & Wesson]] K-Frame or L-Frame revolver. This sidearm is nicknamed the "Colonial Clamshell" by a propmaster in David Eick's 18th video blog.

It seems that, starting in the early second season the original sidearms have been nearly completely replaced by the [[Wikipedia:Five-seveN|Fabrique Nationale Five-seveN]], also dressed up with an underbarrel explosive launcher. This changeover allows for real semi-automatic fire and on-screen reloads ([[Home, Part II]]), and makes use of the existing stores of 5.7 x 28 mm (FN P-90) blank ammunition.

The [[Wikipedia:HK P9|Heckler & Koch P9]] is seen, along with an [http://www.weapon.envy.nu/gun/int.html Intratec Cat-9] in "[[Colonial Day]]".

The [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg54-e.htm Vektor CP1] has also made several appearences ("[[Bastille Day]]", "[[Black Market]]", "[[Sacrifice]]"); this is odd given a safety recall issued in 2000.

Samuel Anders can been seen with the [[Wikipedia:MK23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23]], a variant of the [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch USP|USP]], ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]) and the Israeli [[Wikipedia:Desert Eagle|Desert Eagle]] ([[Downloaded]]).

The Russian-made [[Wikipedia:Makarov PM|Makarov PM]] handgun and the Russian-made Stechkin APS handgun have made an appearance in the Season 2 episode "[[Sacrifice]]".

The [[Stallion]] appears "[[Home, Part II]]". Based on the COP 357 Derringer <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Single-Shot-Pistols/COP_357.htm|title=COP 357 Derringer|date=|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=HTML|language=en}}</ref>, designed as a police off-duty/backup weapon, this four shot derringer fires .357 Magnum rounds. The name "Stallion" may be a production in-joke on the Marushin's model name, "COP 357", whose name is shared in part with the ubiquitous ''Colt'' .357 handgun. This pistol was also used in ''[[Wikipedia:Blade Runner|Blade Runner]]''.

==Submachine guns==

One of the real firearms that was seen on a regular basis in ''Battlestar Galactica'''s first season is the Belgian [[Wikipedia:FN_P90|Fabrique Nationale P90 submachine gun]] which is seen in the hands of the Colonal security forces and [[Marines]] of ''Galactica''. The weapon is notable for its unusual 5.7x28 round, designed to pierce body armor. Its unusual magazine placement and design (resting on top with rounds perpendicular to the barrel) means each cartridge is rotated 90 degrees as it is fed.

The FN P90 submachine gun has also been seen in other science fiction shows like [[Wikipedia:Stargate SG-1|''Stargate SG-1'']] and [[Wikipedia:Stargate Atlantis|''Stargate Atlantis'']] (which are also filmed in Vancouver alongside ''Battlestar Galactica'').

In season two, the P90 was replaced by a different weapon (see Rifles and Carbines).

[[Image:UMP Skorpion Resistance.JPG|thumb|Thrace's Skorpions and Anders's UMP ([[Resistance]])]]
Another real-life submachine guns that made an appearance is the German [[Wikipedia:HK UMP|Heckler & Koch UMP]]. In the episode "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", [[Samuel Anders]] is seen armed with one. It has since been seen in use by ''Pegasus'' Marines. Other weapons seen this episode are the Czech [[Wikipedia:Skorpion|Skorpion machine pistol]], wielded akimbo by Starbuck, and the American [[Wikipedia:Ruger MP9|Ruger MP9]] being wielded by Helo when the two characters encounter Samuel Anders and his resistance fighters.<br/>
The Skorpion is also carried by Chief Tyrol during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

The [[Wikipedia:Beretta Model 12|Beretta Model 12]] submachine gun is used by Anders's resistance fighters.

In "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", both Major [[Lee Adama|Adama]] and Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]] appear to be armed with Heckler & Koch [[Wikipedia:MP7|MP7A1]] Personal Defence Weapons, mounted with ELCAN C79 optical sights. The MP7A1 and C79 sight are further examples of weaponry and equipment seen in ''Stargate SG-1''. Additionally, the fighters on the [[algae planet]], including [[Lee Adama]] and Anders, are equipped with the MP7 and sight combination ([[Rapture]]).

==Shotguns==

Another real firearm seen in the first season of the re-imagined series of ''Battlestar Galactica'' is the American [[Wikipedia:Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500]] pump-action shotgun, specifically a 12-gauge bullpup variant, seen in the episode "[[Bastille Day]]" in the hands of the prisoners on the prison ship ''[[Astral Queen]]'' after they overwhelmed the guards and took control of the ship. None of the bullpup variants are available anymore as of 2006.

The [[Wikipedia:DAO-12|Protecta/Striker shotgun]] is used in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]", "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]" and "[[Home]]". This is the weapon with the drum magazine which Boomer uses to save Apollo's life on Kobol. It is frequently featured in many Hollywood movies due to its distinctive appearance.

A short-barrelled pump action shotgun (which closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Ithaca 37|Ithaca Model 37 pump-action shotgun]]) with forward pistol grip is used by the bartender in the deleted flashback scenes in "[[Scattered]]".

==Rifles and Carbines==
[[Image:SA80Honorguard AoC.JPG|thumb|right|Honor Guard detail armed with SA-80 rifles at [[Zak Adama|Zak Adama's]] funeral ([[Act of Contrition]]).]]
The British [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80 bullpup assault rifle]] is carried by a Colonial military honor guard at Zak Adama's funeral in "[[Act of Contrition]]". The [[Wikipedia:SA-80|SA-80]] is the current, standard-issue infantry rifle of the British armed forces and has been in British military service since 1985.<br>
The SA-80s in "Act of Contrition" appear to be without the standard, [[Wikipedia:British Army | British Army]] issue [[Wikipedia: SUSAT | SUSAT]] telescopic sight, and the iron foresight and rear-sight/carry handle are not in use despite the fact that SA-80s without the SUSAT sight are seen with the foresight and rear-sight/carry handle unfolded and in use. In "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]" and "[[The Farm]]", the resistance fighters on Caprica are armed with SA-80s alongside other firearms. The SA-80s used by the resistance fighters in these two episodes appear to have SUSAT sights fitted on the rifles.

[[Image:Cx4Storm.jpg|thumb|left|Baltar with a Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine ([[Fragged]]).]]
Starbuck uses an Italian [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine]] to shoot at [[Tom Zarek]] on the ''Astral Queen'' ([[Bastille Day]]). In "[[Fragged]]", [[Gaius Baltar]], Chief Tyrol, the others stranded on Kobol, and various Colonial Marines throughout the series are armed with them as well. (It is probable that the Cx4 has replaced the P-90 as the standard Colonial longarm in the series's production, most likely due to the P-90s already already being well known through their extensive use on ''Stargate SG-1'' and ''Stargate Atlantis'').<br>
The Cx4s that are seen in ''Battlestar Galactica'' are fitted with specially-made accessories which go the length of the exposed barrel. Aside from this, the carbines are fitted with real-life tactical lights and AimPoint Red-Dot scopes.

Besides automatic and semi-automatic rifles, one of the resistance fighters on Caprica in the episode "Resistance" is armed with a bolt-action rifle. From the look of its action, the rifle appears to be an American [[Wikipedia:Remington 700|Remington Model 700]] fitted with a Choate Ultimate Sniper/Target tactical rifle stock and a third-party telescopic sight. It is possible that the bolt-action rifle is a standard-issue Colonial military sniper rifle (possibly [[Colonial Marine Corps]] issue) since Anders and his resistance fighters raided Colonial military armories on Caprica for firearms, ammunition and other weapons to fight the Cylons.

[[Image:StarbuckG36K.jpg|thumb|right|Starbuck with a G36K ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).]]
In the episodes "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]" and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|Part II]]", Starbuck is using a [[Wikipedia:Heckler & Koch G36|Heckler & Koch G36K]] while at the same time, a member of the resistance is using a [[Wikipedia:AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-type rifle. The G36 is, in its standard version, the service rifle of the German Armed Forces and the Spanish Army. The Kalashnikov-type rifle that is seen in the hands of Anders's resistance fighters on Caprica in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" and in a few episodes of Season 3 in the hands of one of the members of the New Caprica Resistance is a Chinese-made, NORINCO Type 84S rifle chambered in 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington.

In the Miniseries, the Colonial security personnel on ''Galactica'' are armed with a bullpup assault rifle. It bears a resemblance to a short-barreled [[Wikipedia: FAMAS|FAMAS]] with a [[Wikipedia:Picatinny rail|Picatinny rail]] mount. This rifle was actually designed by Masamune Shirow for the ''Ghost in the Shell'' series, and is known as the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/5F/9wepon/9wepon_1.html CZN-M22 "Nine-Weapon"].

The weapon possesed by [[Leoben Conoy]] at Ragnar Station is a fictional variant of the [[Wikipedia:AR-15|AR-15]], known as the Close Quarters Battle Weapon Type Zero, aka the [http://www.poseidon.co.jp/2F/raisen/rai_1.html "Raisen"]. It is a model gun designed by Poseidon Industries of Japan (see link).

Besides the military-issue rifles and carbines that have been seen in Season 2, civilian rifles have made an appearance. One example can be seen in "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", when one of Anders's resistance fighters is armed with a semi-automatic, civilian hunting rifle fitted with a telescopic sight. From the look of the rifle, it appears that the rifle is a [http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7400.asp Remington Model 7400] semi-automatic hunting rifle that had part of the rearsight removed in order for the telescopic sight to be fitted. This rifle may have come from either the hunters or survivalists that were picked up by the resistance after the Cylon attack.

==References==
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2007-01-25T01:06:23Z

Kregano: /* Missiles */

{{RDM science series}}

For easy reference Battlestar Wiki also uses the term "Kinetic Energy Weapon" and its acronym "KEW" to describe some of the weapons uses in the series. However these are not actual terms from within the series.

A kinetic energy weapon is a weapon that causes damage as a result of the kinetic energy (motion) imparted to a projectile. This includes firearms firing solid bullets first and foremost but may also include guns firing explosive shells.

In fan circles, the battelestar and Viper weapons are sometimes called [[w:railguns|railguns]]. However this has never been stated on screen and a lot of evidence, like the use of chemically propelled rounds, points to them being conventional guns. Indeed, the exact nature of these weapons is still being discussed by the production team (some like [[Gary Hutzel]] want them to be based on railgun technology, while some in the writing stafff feel that they are not railguns).<ref name = "viperguns">As related by [[Bradley Thompson]] in an [[BW:OC|Official Communiques]] entry on [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive02#Guns_nomenclature|gun nomenclature]].</ref>

== Colonial battlestar armament ==

=== Main batteries ===

:''Main article: [[Battery]]''

Colonial battlestars are armed with large gun turrets, but their layout varies from class to class. On [[Galactica type battlestar]]s they are mounted on the dorsal surface, whereas [[Mercury class]] battlestars have forward-firing bow batteries, as well as smaller batteries along the sides of the [[flight pod]]s.

These are the main offensive weapon of a battlestar, but are also used to lay down defensive fire against incoming enemy ordnance and fighters.

=== Point defense guns ===

[[Image:Pointdefence 101 1080i.jpg|right|thumb|Some of ''Galactica'''s point defense turrets firing]]
[[Galactica type battlestar]]s are equipped with numerous point defense guns located along the entire sides of the flight pods. in twin mountings (the reported number of these varies greatly, with some sources stating 48 and others suggesting more than 500). Given the exceptionally high rate of fire they exhibit ([[33]]), they are most likely similar in nature to the [[Wikipedia:Phalanx CIWS|Phalanx CIWS]] used by many modern navies, which is a hopper-fed multi-barrelled autocannon slaved to a dedicated electronics suite.<br>
The entire system is tasked with destroying incoming projectiles. Sensors and expert systems identify and evaluate threats, assigning priorities to them based on data like distance and projected trajectory, while at the same time laying the cannon; this and firing are all done too quickly for a human crew to match. Like the Phalanx, the battlestars' point-defense systems do not recognize [[IFF]] signals ([[Scattered]]).

Although the main batteries are also used to engage incoming fighters and missiles, the point defense guns have a much higher rate of fire, thus making them more effective in that role.

====Drawbacks====
* Ordnance from such weapons is generally dumb: it has no guidance systems. Shots missing a target will continue with the momentum originally imparted to them, thus indescriminate shooting could result in a high incidence of friendly fire casualties.
**This is the reason [[Lee Adama]] warns his pilots to "keep out of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> firing solution" during the battle at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]) and why he has to back off pursuit of the [[Heavy Raider]] in "[[Scattered]]".
* As stated, these types of weapon tend to destroy targets by shredding and shattering them. Therefore, even when the rounds themselves strike their intended target, the space around the defending ship will be filled with shrapnel traveling on the same path as the destroyed target, possibly at high enough velocities as to be dangerous should they strike the defending ship.

=== Missiles ===

Some battlestars, such as ''[[Valkyrie]]'' carry conventional missiles ([[Hero]]). It is unknown whether ''Galactica'' or ''Pegasus'' share this ability, although it is likely that the [[missile tubes]] could also be armed with non-nuclear weapons. Unlike the Cylons however, Colonial battlestars use their gun turrets as main weapon.

At least one ship in the civilian fugitive [[Fleet]], the ''[[Adriatic]]'', has been armed with shortrange ship-to-ship missiles ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Nuclear weapons ===

Battlestars carry a number of nuclear warheads. The standard number for a fully equipped battlestar is unknown, but ''Galactica'' still had five warheads at the time of its decommissioning, and was resupplied by ''Pegasus'' with at least four more (after using two).

They are usually fired from the ship's [[missile tubes]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]), but can also be mounted to [[Raptors]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Cylon basestar armament ==

[[Image:Bsmissiles.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon basestar fires a barrage of missiles]]
Whereas the Colonials prefer artillery-style guns, the [[Cylon]]s appear to favor chemically-propelled missiles, that are mainly fired from launchers located in the "arms". Like with the Colonials, the Cylon missiles can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

The [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] also use large masses of [[Raider]]s instead of gun emplacements and appear to have no point defense weaponry.

In their renewed attack on the Twelve Colonies, the Cylons chose to undermine the Colonial Fleet's defense network by adding a [[backdoor]] in the Colonial's [[Wikipedia:Achille's Heel|Achille's Heel]]: the [[Command Navigation Program]]. Otherwise, the new war may have been either a protracted or short event, as several battlestars working together with their batteries will likely shred any offensive and defensive abilities of an equal number of basestars over time. An illustrated example of this is the two-on-two battlestar vs. basestar attack in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]". This is further supported by Adama's feeling that ''Galactica'', even at half-strength, could hold off a pair of baseships while the Colonists escape [[New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

== Small craft armament ==

=== Viper and Cylon Raider ===

==== Cannons ====

[[Image:cannon.gif|thumb|right|Autocannon illustration]]
* The [[Viper Mk II]] is equipped with two wing-mounted KEWs.
* The [[Viper Mk VII]] is equipped with two KEWs in the wings and a third in the vertical stabiliser ([[Scattered]]).
* The [[Cylon Raider]] is equipped with two KEWs under the wings close to the fuselage (possibly plus two more of lesser caliber, see below) ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* Both Colonial and Cylon KEWs are belt-fed ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

These are most likely autocannon systems, with at least some models utilising belt-fed ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The show's KEW are similar those found in real life in that they use chemical propellant to fire relatively small caliber projectiles from a single barrel at a high rate. The shells themselves can be solid, relying on their high velocities to impact and "shred" the target vehicle or fused to explode on impact. However, Viper ammunition shown on screen are also large enough to be explosive-filled and fused; they are also visually identical to real life 20 mm autocannon rounds ([[Epiphanies]]). The size of the Mk VII's guns and the profile of the rounds in motion suggest a smaller caliber than those of the Mk II, although the two have been described to share the same ammunition ([[Epiphanies]]); the two guns also appear to differ in their rate of fire.

Viper guns appear to be aimed entirely by the pilot during combat without the aid of any heads-up information being displayed. However, for such a weapon to be effective, the guns themselves would be ''harmonised'' (aligned for accuracy of and desired rate of fire) and the aiming system given a suitable period of ''deflection'' (the effective ability to follow, or "lead" a target into its line of fire).

The [[Cylon Raider]]s carry at least two KEWs of similar caliber to those of the Mk II [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s. However, there are also two smaller barrels visible on their underside, making for two barrels of different sizes per side. It is possible that these are smaller caliber KEWs. Whereas the larger caliber KEW would be firing explosive rounds, smaller caliber KEWs would be firing slugs. This is a combination common to fighters of the Second World War and the short-lived jet-powered gunfighters of the 1950s. The scene in which [[Kara Thrace]] loads the captured [[Cylon Raider]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" would seem to support the four gunned Raider hypothesis, as the rounds she is loading are way too small for the larger, more prominent barrels' bores, but about right for the smaller barrels. Furthermore, in "[[Epiphanies]]", Viper ammunition is shown to be a typical autocannon round in the 30mm neighbourhood, and a much closer match for the Raiders' larger barrels (though ironically, they looked a little large for the Vipers' gun barrels).

The distinctive glow of this ordnance - red for the Colonials and blue for the Cylons - is the result of interspersed [[w:Tracer ammunition|tracer]] ammunition, used as visual targeting aid by the pilots.<ref name="viperguns"/>

==== Missiles ====

While Vipers usually rely on their cannons, they can be equipped with missiles - conventional and nuclear - when needed.

Shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]] on the Twelve Colonies, a Raider fires three nuclear missiles from internal bays at ''Galactica'' ([[Miniseries]]).<br>
During the ground portion of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]], [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] cannibalize parts of their [[Heavy Raider]] in order to create an anti-aircraft missile battery, which is later used to attack a search and rescue mission launched from ''Galactica'' ([[Fragged]]).

Vipers can be seen using missiles during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] ([[The Hand of God]]) and in a training exercise ([[Home, Part I]]). They are later seen during the [[Battle of New Caprica]], where they are used to destroy Centurion guard towers ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

=== Raptor ===

:''Main article: [[Raptor]]''

[[Image:RaptorWeapons.jpg|thumb|left|Raptor weapon pods ([[Exodus, Part II]]).]]

Raptors are usually unarmed, but can be outfitted with nuclear and conventional missiles - either carried under the wings or in a small bomb-bay on the underside - as well as a variety of fuselage-mounted weapon pods containing missiles or cannons.

In addition they are equipped with a number of defensive systems like [[Swallow|decoy drones]], chaffs, flares and an [[ECM]] suite.

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== Handheld weapons ==

=== Small arms ===

The Colonials use a wide variety of pistols, rifles, and machine guns. Most of these are identical to real-world weapons. For a detailed comparison see: ''[[Small arms]]''

The most distinctive Colonial weapon is the standard issue pistol, which comes in two variations. It is a small bore semi-automatic pistol, with a bigger launcher attached under the barrel. This muzzle-loaded launcher can fire a single high-explosive round with each reload. It is carried by both Viper and Raptor pilots on all missions.

The ammunition's effectiveness is dependent on the armor of the target. While stranded on Caprica, rounds from Helo's pistol go straight through the head of a Centurion ("[[33]]", "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]"). However, Centurions boarding ''Galactica'' are equipped with better armor and the standard rounds prove to be completely ineffective against the boarding team. Explosive rounds are used by the defenders, which destroy Centurions' heads with a visible explosion. Since ''Galactica'' is not stocked with large amounts of this type of ammunition, it is not standard issue and only used when really necessary ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

On Kobol, the larger explosive rounds launched from a grenade launcher destroy a Centurion in a single shot with a large explosion, while standard pistol rounds are sufficient to disable Centurions ([[Home, Part I]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the resistance fighters use their weapons to disable Centurions from an unspecified range, indicating that either armor piercing rounds are being used, or the Centurions have weaker armor than the aforementioned Centurion boarding party ([[Exodus, Part I]] and [[Exodus, Part II|Part II]]).

During the [[Battle of the Algae Planet]], Colonial small arms and ammunition are again proven to be ineffective, with the explosive rounds being the exception. However, only one explosive round was ever fired during the short ground battle between Colonial and Cylon forces before the Colonial forces withdrew ([[Rapture]]).

Cylon [[Centurion]]s have a gun integrated into each of their arms, which serve as their main weapon. These guns fire armor piercing rounds of an unspecified caliber at high rates of fire, creating effective suppression fire against oncoming targets
("[[Valley of Darkness]]", "[[Exodus, Part II]]").

=== Heavy weapons ===

Colonial [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] have been seen using a shoulder-fired missile launcher to engage Centurions ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Centurions deployed on planets use mortars, which are carried on their backs for transport over land ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]").

=== Explosives ===

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] are used by humans in several forms, ranging from small quantities for forcing open doors to larger packs for heavy demolition work.

Furthermore, improvised explosive devices can be constructed with volatile [[tylium]] fuel ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

<gallery caption="Handheld weapons">
Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|Marines with a missile launcher.
Image:CenturionMortar.jpg|Centurions carrying mortars.
Image:G4_Occupation.jpg|G-4 explosives ([[Occupation]]).
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==References==
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2007-01-25T00:52:21Z

Kregano: /* Small arms */

{{RDM science series}}

For easy reference Battlestar Wiki also uses the term "Kinetic Energy Weapon" and its acronym "KEW" to describe some of the weapons uses in the series. However these are not actual terms from within the series.

A kinetic energy weapon is a weapon that causes damage as a result of the kinetic energy (motion) imparted to a projectile. This includes firearms firing solid bullets first and foremost but may also include guns firing explosive shells.

In fan circles, the battelestar and Viper weapons are sometimes called [[w:railguns|railguns]]. However this has never been stated on screen and a lot of evidence, like the use of chemically propelled rounds, points to them being conventional guns. Indeed, the exact nature of these weapons is still being discussed by the production team (some like [[Gary Hutzel]] want them to be based on railgun technology, while some in the writing stafff feel that they are not railguns).<ref name = "viperguns">As related by [[Bradley Thompson]] in an [[BW:OC|Official Communiques]] entry on [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive02#Guns_nomenclature|gun nomenclature]].</ref>

== Colonial battlestar armament ==

=== Main batteries ===

:''Main article: [[Battery]]''

Colonial battlestars are armed with large gun turrets, but their layout varies from class to class. On [[Galactica type battlestar]]s they are mounted on the dorsal surface, whereas [[Mercury class]] battlestars have forward-firing bow batteries, as well as smaller batteries along the sides of the [[flight pod]]s.

These are the main offensive weapon of a battlestar, but are also used to lay down defensive fire against incoming enemy ordnance and fighters.

=== Point defense guns ===

[[Image:Pointdefence 101 1080i.jpg|right|thumb|Some of ''Galactica'''s point defense turrets firing]]
[[Galactica type battlestar]]s are equipped with numerous point defense guns located along the entire sides of the flight pods. in twin mountings (the reported number of these varies greatly, with some sources stating 48 and others suggesting more than 500). Given the exceptionally high rate of fire they exhibit ([[33]]), they are most likely similar in nature to the [[Wikipedia:Phalanx CIWS|Phalanx CIWS]] used by many modern navies, which is a hopper-fed multi-barrelled autocannon slaved to a dedicated electronics suite.<br>
The entire system is tasked with destroying incoming projectiles. Sensors and expert systems identify and evaluate threats, assigning priorities to them based on data like distance and projected trajectory, while at the same time laying the cannon; this and firing are all done too quickly for a human crew to match. Like the Phalanx, the battlestars' point-defense systems do not recognize [[IFF]] signals ([[Scattered]]).

Although the main batteries are also used to engage incoming fighters and missiles, the point defense guns have a much higher rate of fire, thus making them more effective in that role.

====Drawbacks====
* Ordnance from such weapons is generally dumb: it has no guidance systems. Shots missing a target will continue with the momentum originally imparted to them, thus indescriminate shooting could result in a high incidence of friendly fire casualties.
**This is the reason [[Lee Adama]] warns his pilots to "keep out of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> firing solution" during the battle at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]) and why he has to back off pursuit of the [[Heavy Raider]] in "[[Scattered]]".
* As stated, these types of weapon tend to destroy targets by shredding and shattering them. Therefore, even when the rounds themselves strike their intended target, the space around the defending ship will be filled with shrapnel traveling on the same path as the destroyed target, possibly at high enough velocities as to be dangerous should they strike the defending ship.

=== Missiles ===

Some battlestars, such as ''[[Valkyrie]]'' carry conventional missiles ([[Hero]]). It is unknown whether ''Galactica'' or ''Pegasus'' share this ability, although it is likely that the [[missile tubes]] could also be armed with non-nuclear weapons. Unlike the Cylons however, Colonial battlestars use their gun turrets as main weapon.

At least one ship in the civilian fugitive [[Fleet]], the ''[[Adriatic]]'', has been armed with shortrange ship-to-ship missiles ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Nuclear weapons ===

Battlestars carry a number of nuclear warheads. The standard number for a fully equipped battlestar is unknown, but ''Galactica'' still had five warheads at the time of its decommissioning, and was resupplied by ''Pegasus'' with at least four more (after using two).

They are usually fired from the ship's [[missile tubes]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]), but can also be mounted to [[Raptors]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Cylon basestar armament ==

[[Image:Bsmissiles.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon basestar fires a barrage of missiles]]
Whereas the Colonials prefer artillery-style guns, the [[Cylon]]s appear to favor chemically-propelled missiles, that are mainly fired from launchers located in the "arms". Like with the Colonials, the Cylon missiles can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

The [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] also use large masses of [[Raider]]s instead of gun emplacements and appear to have no point defense weaponry.

In their renewed attack on the Twelve Colonies, the Cylons chose to undermine the Colonial Fleet's defense network by adding a [[backdoor]] in the Colonial's [[Wikipedia:Achille's Heel|Achille's Heel]]: the [[Command Navigation Program]]. Otherwise, the new war may have been either a protracted or short event, as several battlestars working together with their batteries will likely shred any offensive and defensive abilities of an equal number of basestars over time. An illustrated example of this is the two-on-two battlestar vs. basestar attack in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]". This is further supported by Adama's feeling that ''Galactica'', even at half-strength, could hold off a pair of baseships while the Colonists escape [[New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

== Small craft armament ==

=== Viper and Cylon Raider ===

==== Cannons ====

[[Image:cannon.gif|thumb|right|Autocannon illustration]]
* The [[Viper Mk II]] is equipped with two wing-mounted KEWs.
* The [[Viper Mk VII]] is equipped with two KEWs in the wings and a third in the vertical stabiliser ([[Scattered]]).
* The [[Cylon Raider]] is equipped with two KEWs under the wings close to the fuselage (possibly plus two more of lesser caliber, see below) ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* Both Colonial and Cylon KEWs are belt-fed ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

These are most likely autocannon systems, with at least some models utilising belt-fed ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The show's KEW are similar those found in real life in that they use chemical propellant to fire relatively small caliber projectiles from a single barrel at a high rate. The shells themselves can be solid, relying on their high velocities to impact and "shred" the target vehicle or fused to explode on impact. However, Viper ammunition shown on screen are also large enough to be explosive-filled and fused; they are also visually identical to real life 20 mm autocannon rounds ([[Epiphanies]]). The size of the Mk VII's guns and the profile of the rounds in motion suggest a smaller caliber than those of the Mk II, although the two have been described to share the same ammunition ([[Epiphanies]]); the two guns also appear to differ in their rate of fire.

Viper guns appear to be aimed entirely by the pilot during combat without the aid of any heads-up information being displayed. However, for such a weapon to be effective, the guns themselves would be ''harmonised'' (aligned for accuracy of and desired rate of fire) and the aiming system given a suitable period of ''deflection'' (the effective ability to follow, or "lead" a target into its line of fire).

The [[Cylon Raider]]s carry at least two KEWs of similar caliber to those of the Mk II [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s. However, there are also two smaller barrels visible on their underside, making for two barrels of different sizes per side. It is possible that these are smaller caliber KEWs. Whereas the larger caliber KEW would be firing explosive rounds, smaller caliber KEWs would be firing slugs. This is a combination common to fighters of the Second World War and the short-lived jet-powered gunfighters of the 1950s. The scene in which [[Kara Thrace]] loads the captured [[Cylon Raider]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" would seem to support the four gunned Raider hypothesis, as the rounds she is loading are way too small for the larger, more prominent barrels' bores, but about right for the smaller barrels. Furthermore, in "[[Epiphanies]]", Viper ammunition is shown to be a typical autocannon round in the 30mm neighbourhood, and a much closer match for the Raiders' larger barrels (though ironically, they looked a little large for the Vipers' gun barrels).

The distinctive glow of this ordnance - red for the Colonials and blue for the Cylons - is the result of interspersed [[w:Tracer ammunition|tracer]] ammunition, used as visual targeting aid by the pilots.<ref name="viperguns"/>

==== Missiles ====

While Vipers usually rely on their cannons, they can be equipped with missiles - conventional and nuclear - when needed.

Shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]] on the Twelve Colonies, a Raider fires three nuclear missiles from internal bays at ''Galactica'' ([[Miniseries]]).<br>
During the ground portion of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]], [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] cannibalize parts of their [[Heavy Raider]] in order to create an anti-aircraft missile battery, which is later used to attack a search and rescue mission launched from ''Galactica'' ([[Fragged]]).

Vipers can be seen using missiles during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] ([[The Hand of God]]) and in a training exercise ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Raptor ===

:''Main article: [[Raptor]]''

[[Image:RaptorWeapons.jpg|thumb|left|Raptor weapon pods ([[Exodus, Part II]]).]]

Raptors are usually unarmed, but can be outfitted with nuclear and conventional missiles - either carried under the wings or in a small bomb-bay on the underside - as well as a variety of fuselage-mounted weapon pods containing missiles or cannons.

In addition they are equipped with a number of defensive systems like [[Swallow|decoy drones]], chaffs, flares and an [[ECM]] suite.

<div style="clear: both;"></div>

== Handheld weapons ==

=== Small arms ===

The Colonials use a wide variety of pistols, rifles, and machine guns. Most of these are identical to real-world weapons. For a detailed comparison see: ''[[Small arms]]''

The most distinctive Colonial weapon is the standard issue pistol, which comes in two variations. It is a small bore semi-automatic pistol, with a bigger launcher attached under the barrel. This muzzle-loaded launcher can fire a single high-explosive round with each reload. It is carried by both Viper and Raptor pilots on all missions.

The ammunition's effectiveness is dependent on the armor of the target. While stranded on Caprica, rounds from Helo's pistol go straight through the head of a Centurion ("[[33]]", "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]"). However, Centurions boarding ''Galactica'' are equipped with better armor and the standard rounds prove to be completely ineffective against the boarding team. Explosive rounds are used by the defenders, which destroy Centurions' heads with a visible explosion. Since ''Galactica'' is not stocked with large amounts of this type of ammunition, it is not standard issue and only used when really necessary ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

On Kobol, the larger explosive rounds launched from a grenade launcher destroy a Centurion in a single shot with a large explosion, while standard pistol rounds are sufficient to disable Centurions ([[Home, Part I]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the resistance fighters use their weapons to disable Centurions from an unspecified range, indicating that either armor piercing rounds are being used, or the Centurions have weaker armor than the aforementioned Centurion boarding party ([[Exodus, Part I]] and [[Exodus, Part II|Part II]]).

During the [[Battle of the Algae Planet]], Colonial small arms and ammunition are again proven to be ineffective, with the explosive rounds being the exception. However, only one explosive round was ever fired during the short ground battle between Colonial and Cylon forces before the Colonial forces withdrew ([[Rapture]]).

Cylon [[Centurion]]s have a gun integrated into each of their arms, which serve as their main weapon. These guns fire armor piercing rounds of an unspecified caliber at high rates of fire, creating effective suppression fire against oncoming targets
("[[Valley of Darkness]]", "[[Exodus, Part II]]").

=== Heavy weapons ===

Colonial [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] have been seen using a shoulder-fired missile launcher to engage Centurions ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Centurions deployed on planets use mortars, which are carried on their backs for transport over land ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]").

=== Explosives ===

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] are used by humans in several forms, ranging from small quantities for forcing open doors to larger packs for heavy demolition work.

Furthermore, improvised explosive devices can be constructed with volatile [[tylium]] fuel ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

<gallery caption="Handheld weapons">
Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|Marines with a missile launcher.
Image:CenturionMortar.jpg|Centurions carrying mortars.
Image:G4_Occupation.jpg|G-4 explosives ([[Occupation]]).
</gallery>

==References==
<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Technology]]
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]
[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Terminology (RDM)]]
[[Category:RDM]]

Weapons in the Re-imagined Series

2007-01-25T00:42:13Z

Kregano: /* Small arms */

{{RDM science series}}

For easy reference Battlestar Wiki also uses the term "Kinetic Energy Weapon" and its acronym "KEW" to describe some of the weapons uses in the series. However these are not actual terms from within the series.

A kinetic energy weapon is a weapon that causes damage as a result of the kinetic energy (motion) imparted to a projectile. This includes firearms firing solid bullets first and foremost but may also include guns firing explosive shells.

In fan circles, the battelestar and Viper weapons are sometimes called [[w:railguns|railguns]]. However this has never been stated on screen and a lot of evidence, like the use of chemically propelled rounds, points to them being conventional guns. Indeed, the exact nature of these weapons is still being discussed by the production team (some like [[Gary Hutzel]] want them to be based on railgun technology, while some in the writing stafff feel that they are not railguns).<ref name = "viperguns">As related by [[Bradley Thompson]] in an [[BW:OC|Official Communiques]] entry on [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive02#Guns_nomenclature|gun nomenclature]].</ref>

== Colonial battlestar armament ==

=== Main batteries ===

:''Main article: [[Battery]]''

Colonial battlestars are armed with large gun turrets, but their layout varies from class to class. On [[Galactica type battlestar]]s they are mounted on the dorsal surface, whereas [[Mercury class]] battlestars have forward-firing bow batteries, as well as smaller batteries along the sides of the [[flight pod]]s.

These are the main offensive weapon of a battlestar, but are also used to lay down defensive fire against incoming enemy ordnance and fighters.

=== Point defense guns ===

[[Image:Pointdefence 101 1080i.jpg|right|thumb|Some of ''Galactica'''s point defense turrets firing]]
[[Galactica type battlestar]]s are equipped with numerous point defense guns located along the entire sides of the flight pods. in twin mountings (the reported number of these varies greatly, with some sources stating 48 and others suggesting more than 500). Given the exceptionally high rate of fire they exhibit ([[33]]), they are most likely similar in nature to the [[Wikipedia:Phalanx CIWS|Phalanx CIWS]] used by many modern navies, which is a hopper-fed multi-barrelled autocannon slaved to a dedicated electronics suite.<br>
The entire system is tasked with destroying incoming projectiles. Sensors and expert systems identify and evaluate threats, assigning priorities to them based on data like distance and projected trajectory, while at the same time laying the cannon; this and firing are all done too quickly for a human crew to match. Like the Phalanx, the battlestars' point-defense systems do not recognize [[IFF]] signals ([[Scattered]]).

Although the main batteries are also used to engage incoming fighters and missiles, the point defense guns have a much higher rate of fire, thus making them more effective in that role.

====Drawbacks====
* Ordnance from such weapons is generally dumb: it has no guidance systems. Shots missing a target will continue with the momentum originally imparted to them, thus indescriminate shooting could result in a high incidence of friendly fire casualties.
**This is the reason [[Lee Adama]] warns his pilots to "keep out of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> firing solution" during the battle at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]) and why he has to back off pursuit of the [[Heavy Raider]] in "[[Scattered]]".
* As stated, these types of weapon tend to destroy targets by shredding and shattering them. Therefore, even when the rounds themselves strike their intended target, the space around the defending ship will be filled with shrapnel traveling on the same path as the destroyed target, possibly at high enough velocities as to be dangerous should they strike the defending ship.

=== Missiles ===

Some battlestars, such as ''[[Valkyrie]]'' carry conventional missiles ([[Hero]]). It is unknown whether ''Galactica'' or ''Pegasus'' share this ability, although it is likely that the [[missile tubes]] could also be armed with non-nuclear weapons. Unlike the Cylons however, Colonial battlestars use their gun turrets as main weapon.

At least one ship in the civilian fugitive [[Fleet]], the ''[[Adriatic]]'', has been armed with shortrange ship-to-ship missiles ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Nuclear weapons ===

Battlestars carry a number of nuclear warheads. The standard number for a fully equipped battlestar is unknown, but ''Galactica'' still had five warheads at the time of its decommissioning, and was resupplied by ''Pegasus'' with at least four more (after using two).

They are usually fired from the ship's [[missile tubes]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]), but can also be mounted to [[Raptors]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Cylon basestar armament ==

[[Image:Bsmissiles.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon basestar fires a barrage of missiles]]
Whereas the Colonials prefer artillery-style guns, the [[Cylon]]s appear to favor chemically-propelled missiles, that are mainly fired from launchers located in the "arms". Like with the Colonials, the Cylon missiles can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

The [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] also use large masses of [[Raider]]s instead of gun emplacements and appear to have no point defense weaponry.

In their renewed attack on the Twelve Colonies, the Cylons chose to undermine the Colonial Fleet's defense network by adding a [[backdoor]] in the Colonial's [[Wikipedia:Achille's Heel|Achille's Heel]]: the [[Command Navigation Program]]. Otherwise, the new war may have been either a protracted or short event, as several battlestars working together with their batteries will likely shred any offensive and defensive abilities of an equal number of basestars over time. An illustrated example of this is the two-on-two battlestar vs. basestar attack in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]". This is further supported by Adama's feeling that ''Galactica'', even at half-strength, could hold off a pair of baseships while the Colonists escape [[New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

== Small craft armament ==

=== Viper and Cylon Raider ===

==== Cannons ====

[[Image:cannon.gif|thumb|right|Autocannon illustration]]
* The [[Viper Mk II]] is equipped with two wing-mounted KEWs.
* The [[Viper Mk VII]] is equipped with two KEWs in the wings and a third in the vertical stabiliser ([[Scattered]]).
* The [[Cylon Raider]] is equipped with two KEWs under the wings close to the fuselage (possibly plus two more of lesser caliber, see below) ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* Both Colonial and Cylon KEWs are belt-fed ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

These are most likely autocannon systems, with at least some models utilising belt-fed ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The show's KEW are similar those found in real life in that they use chemical propellant to fire relatively small caliber projectiles from a single barrel at a high rate. The shells themselves can be solid, relying on their high velocities to impact and "shred" the target vehicle or fused to explode on impact. However, Viper ammunition shown on screen are also large enough to be explosive-filled and fused; they are also visually identical to real life 20 mm autocannon rounds ([[Epiphanies]]). The size of the Mk VII's guns and the profile of the rounds in motion suggest a smaller caliber than those of the Mk II, although the two have been described to share the same ammunition ([[Epiphanies]]); the two guns also appear to differ in their rate of fire.

Viper guns appear to be aimed entirely by the pilot during combat without the aid of any heads-up information being displayed. However, for such a weapon to be effective, the guns themselves would be ''harmonised'' (aligned for accuracy of and desired rate of fire) and the aiming system given a suitable period of ''deflection'' (the effective ability to follow, or "lead" a target into its line of fire).

The [[Cylon Raider]]s carry at least two KEWs of similar caliber to those of the Mk II [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s. However, there are also two smaller barrels visible on their underside, making for two barrels of different sizes per side. It is possible that these are smaller caliber KEWs. Whereas the larger caliber KEW would be firing explosive rounds, smaller caliber KEWs would be firing slugs. This is a combination common to fighters of the Second World War and the short-lived jet-powered gunfighters of the 1950s. The scene in which [[Kara Thrace]] loads the captured [[Cylon Raider]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" would seem to support the four gunned Raider hypothesis, as the rounds she is loading are way too small for the larger, more prominent barrels' bores, but about right for the smaller barrels. Furthermore, in "[[Epiphanies]]", Viper ammunition is shown to be a typical autocannon round in the 30mm neighbourhood, and a much closer match for the Raiders' larger barrels (though ironically, they looked a little large for the Vipers' gun barrels).

The distinctive glow of this ordnance - red for the Colonials and blue for the Cylons - is the result of interspersed [[w:Tracer ammunition|tracer]] ammunition, used as visual targeting aid by the pilots.<ref name="viperguns"/>

==== Missiles ====

While Vipers usually rely on their cannons, they can be equipped with missiles - conventional and nuclear - when needed.

Shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]] on the Twelve Colonies, a Raider fires three nuclear missiles from internal bays at ''Galactica'' ([[Miniseries]]).<br>
During the ground portion of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]], [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] cannibalize parts of their [[Heavy Raider]] in order to create an anti-aircraft missile battery, which is later used to attack a search and rescue mission launched from ''Galactica'' ([[Fragged]]).

Vipers can be seen using missiles during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] ([[The Hand of God]]) and in a training exercise ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Raptor ===

:''Main article: [[Raptor]]''

[[Image:RaptorWeapons.jpg|thumb|left|Raptor weapon pods ([[Exodus, Part II]]).]]

Raptors are usually unarmed, but can be outfitted with nuclear and conventional missiles - either carried under the wings or in a small bomb-bay on the underside - as well as a variety of fuselage-mounted weapon pods containing missiles or cannons.

In addition they are equipped with a number of defensive systems like [[Swallow|decoy drones]], chaffs, flares and an [[ECM]] suite.

<div style="clear: both;"></div>

== Handheld weapons ==

=== Small arms ===

The Colonials use a wide variety of pistols, rifles, and machine guns. Most of these are identical to real-world weapons. For a detailed comparison see: ''[[Small arms]]''

The most distinctive Colonial weapon is the standard issue pistol, which comes in two variations. It is a small bore semi-automatic pistol, with a bigger launcher attached under the barrel. This muzzle-loaded launcher can fire a single high-explosive round with each reload. It is carried by both Viper and Raptor pilots on all missions.

The ammunition's effectiveness is dependent on the armor of the target. While stranded on Caprica, rounds from Helo's pistol go straight through the head of a Centurion ("[[33]]", "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]"). However, Centurions boarding ''Galactica'' are equipped with better armor and the standard rounds prove to be completely ineffective against the boarding team. Explosive rounds are used by the defenders, which destroy Centurions' heads with a visible explosion. Since ''Galactica'' is not stocked with large amounts of this type of ammunition, it is not standard issue and only used when really necessary ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

On Kobol, the larger explosive rounds launched from a grenade launcher destroy a Centurion in a single shot with a large explosion, while standard pistol rounds are sufficient to disable Centurions ([[Home, Part I]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the resistance fighters use their weapons to disable Centurions from an unspecified range, indicating that either armor piercing rounds are being used, or the Centurions have weaker armor than the aforementioned Centurion boarding party ([[Exodus, Part I]] and [[Exodus, Part II|Part II]]).

During the [[Battle of Algae Planet]], Colonial small arms and ammunition are again proven to be ineffective, with the explosive rounds being the exception. However, only one explosive round was ever fired during the short ground battle between Colonial and Cylon forces before the Colonial forces withdrew ([[Rapture]]).

Cylon [[Centurion]]s have a gun integrated into each of their arms, which serve as their main weapon. These guns fire armor piercing rounds of an unspecified caliber at high rates of fire, creating effective suppression fire against oncoming targets
("[[Valley of Darkness]]", "[[Exodus, Part II]]").

=== Heavy weapons ===

Colonial [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] have been seen using a shoulder-fired missile launcher to engage Centurions ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Centurions deployed on planets use mortars, which are carried on their backs for transport over land ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]").

=== Explosives ===

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] are used by humans in several forms, ranging from small quantities for forcing open doors to larger packs for heavy demolition work.

Furthermore, improvised explosive devices can be constructed with volatile [[tylium]] fuel ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

<gallery caption="Handheld weapons">
Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|Marines with a missile launcher.
Image:CenturionMortar.jpg|Centurions carrying mortars.
Image:G4_Occupation.jpg|G-4 explosives ([[Occupation]]).
</gallery>

==References==
<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Technology]]
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]
[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Terminology (RDM)]]
[[Category:RDM]]

Weapons in the Re-imagined Series

2007-01-21T22:29:23Z

Kregano: /* Small arms */

{{RDM science series}}

For easy reference Battlestar Wiki also uses the term "Kinetic Energy Weapon" and its acronym "KEW" to describe some of the weapons uses in the series. However these are not actual terms from within the series.

A kinetic energy weapon is a weapon that causes damage as a result of the kinetic energy (motion) imparted to a projectile. This includes firearms firing solid bullets first and foremost but may also include guns firing explosive shells.

In fan circles, the battelestar and Viper weapons are sometimes called [[w:railguns|railguns]]. However this has never been stated on screen and a lot of evidence, like the use of chemically propelled rounds, points to them being conventional guns. Indeed, the exact nature of these weapons is still being discussed by the production team (some like [[Gary Hutzel]] want them to be based on railgun technology, while some in the writing stafff feel that they are not railguns).<ref name = "viperguns">As related by [[Bradley Thompson]] in an [[BW:OC|Official Communiques]] entry on [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive02#Guns_nomenclature|gun nomenclature]].</ref>

== Colonial battlestar armament ==

=== Main batteries ===

:''Main article: [[Battery]]''

Colonial battlestars are armed with large gun turrets, but their layout varies from class to class. On [[Galactica type battlestar]]s they are mounted on the dorsal surface, whereas [[Mercury class]] battlestars have forward-firing bow batteries, as well as smaller batteries along the sides of the [[flight pod]]s.

These are the main offensive weapon of a battlestar, but are also used to lay down defensive fire against incoming enemy ordnance and fighters.

=== Point defense guns ===

[[Image:Pointdefence 101 1080i.jpg|right|thumb|Some of ''Galactica'''s point defense turrets firing]]
[[Galactica type battlestar]]s are equipped with numerous point defense guns located along the entire sides of the flight pods. in twin mountings (the reported number of these varies greatly, with some sources stating 48 and others suggesting more than 500). Given the exceptionally high rate of fire they exhibit ([[33]]), they are most likely similar in nature to the [[Wikipedia:Phalanx CIWS|Phalanx CIWS]] used by many modern navies, which is a hopper-fed multi-barrelled autocannon slaved to a dedicated electronics suite.<br>
The entire system is tasked with destroying incoming projectiles. Sensors and expert systems identify and evaluate threats, assigning priorities to them based on data like distance and projected trajectory, while at the same time laying the cannon; this and firing are all done too quickly for a human crew to match. Like the Phalanx, the battlestars' point-defense systems do not recognize [[IFF]] signals ([[Scattered]]).

Although the main batteries are also used to engage incoming fighters and missiles, the point defense guns have a much higher rate of fire, thus making them more effective in that role.

====Drawbacks====
* Ordnance from such weapons is generally dumb: it has no guidance systems. Shots missing a target will continue with the momentum originally imparted to them, thus indescriminate shooting could result in a high incidence of friendly fire casualties.
**This is the reason [[Lee Adama]] warns his pilots to "keep out of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> firing solution" during the battle at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]) and why he has to back off pursuit of the [[Heavy Raider]] in "[[Scattered]]".
* As stated, these types of weapon tend to destroy targets by shredding and shattering them. Therefore, even when the rounds themselves strike their intended target, the space around the defending ship will be filled with shrapnel traveling on the same path as the destroyed target, possibly at high enough velocities as to be dangerous should they strike the defending ship.

=== Missiles ===

Some battlestars, such as ''[[Valkyrie]]'' carry conventional missiles ([[Hero]]). It is unknown whether ''Galactica'' or ''Pegasus'' share this ability, although it is likely that the [[missile tubes]] could also be armed with non-nuclear weapons. Unlike the Cylons however, Colonial battlestars use their gun turrets as main weapon.

At least one ship in the civilian fugitive [[Fleet]], the ''[[Adriatic]]'', has been armed with shortrange ship-to-ship missiles ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Nuclear weapons ===

Battlestars carry a number of nuclear warheads. The standard number for a fully equipped battlestar is unknown, but ''Galactica'' still had five warheads at the time of its decommissioning, and was resupplied by ''Pegasus'' with at least four more (after using two).

They are usually fired from the ship's [[missile tubes]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]), but can also be mounted to [[Raptors]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Cylon basestar armament ==

[[Image:Bsmissiles.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon basestar fires a barrage of missiles]]
Whereas the Colonials prefer artillery-style guns, the [[Cylon]]s appear to favor chemically-propelled missiles, that are mainly fired from launchers located in the "arms". Like with the Colonials, the Cylon missiles can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

The [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] also use large masses of [[Raider]]s instead of gun emplacements and appear to have no point defense weaponry.

In their renewed attack on the Twelve Colonies, the Cylons chose to undermine the Colonial Fleet's defense network by adding a [[backdoor]] in the Colonial's [[Wikipedia:Achille's Heel|Achille's Heel]]: the [[Command Navigation Program]]. Otherwise, the new war may have been either a protracted or short event, as several battlestars working together with their batteries will likely shred any offensive and defensive abilities of an equal number of basestars over time. An illustrated example of this is the two-on-two battlestar vs. basestar attack in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]". This is further supported by Adama's feeling that ''Galactica'', even at half-strength, could hold off a pair of baseships while the Colonists escape [[New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

== Small craft armament ==

=== Viper and Cylon Raider ===

==== Cannons ====

[[Image:cannon.gif|thumb|right|Autocannon illustration]]
* The [[Viper Mk II]] is equipped with two wing-mounted KEWs.
* The [[Viper Mk VII]] is equipped with two KEWs in the wings and a third in the vertical stabiliser ([[Scattered]]).
* The [[Cylon Raider]] is equipped with two KEWs under the wings close to the fuselage (possibly plus two more of lesser caliber, see below) ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* Both Colonial and Cylon KEWs are belt-fed ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

These are most likely autocannon systems, with at least some models utilising belt-fed ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The show's KEW are similar those found in real life in that they use chemical propellant to fire relatively small caliber projectiles from a single barrel at a high rate. The shells themselves can be solid, relying on their high velocities to impact and "shred" the target vehicle or fused to explode on impact. However, Viper ammunition shown on screen are also large enough to be explosive-filled and fused; they are also visually identical to real life 20 mm autocannon rounds ([[Epiphanies]]). The size of the Mk VII's guns and the profile of the rounds in motion suggest a smaller caliber than those of the Mk II, although the two have been described to share the same ammunition ([[Epiphanies]]); the two guns also appear to differ in their rate of fire.

Viper guns appear to be aimed entirely by the pilot during combat without the aid of any heads-up information being displayed. However, for such a weapon to be effective, the guns themselves would be ''harmonised'' (aligned for accuracy of and desired rate of fire) and the aiming system given a suitable period of ''deflection'' (the effective ability to follow, or "lead" a target into its line of fire).

The [[Cylon Raider]]s carry at least two KEWs of similar caliber to those of the Mk II [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s. However, there are also two smaller barrels visible on their underside, making for two barrels of different sizes per side. It is possible that these are smaller caliber KEWs. Whereas the larger caliber KEW would be firing explosive rounds, smaller caliber KEWs would be firing slugs. This is a combination common to fighters of the Second World War and the short-lived jet-powered gunfighters of the 1950s. The scene in which [[Kara Thrace]] loads the captured [[Cylon Raider]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" would seem to support the four gunned Raider hypothesis, as the rounds she is loading are way too small for the larger, more prominent barrels' bores, but about right for the smaller barrels. Furthermore, in "[[Epiphanies]]", Viper ammunition is shown to be a typical autocannon round in the 30mm neighbourhood, and a much closer match for the Raiders' larger barrels (though ironically, they looked a little large for the Vipers' gun barrels).

The distinctive glow of this ordnance - red for the Colonials and blue for the Cylons - is the result of interspersed [[w:Tracer ammunition|tracer]] ammunition, used as visual targeting aid by the pilots.<ref name="viperguns"/>

==== Missiles ====

While Vipers and Raptors usually rely on their cannons, both can be equipped with missiles - conventional and nuclear - when needed.

Shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]] on the Twelve Colonies, a Raider fires three nuclear missiles from internal bays at ''Galactica'' ([[Miniseries]]).<br>
During the ground portion of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]], [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] cannibalize parts of their [[Heavy Raider]] in order to create an anti-aircraft missile battery, which is later used to attack a search and rescue mission launched from ''Galactica'' ([[Fragged]]).

Vipers can be seen using missiles during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] ([[The Hand of God]]) and in a training exercise ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Raptor ===

:''Main article: [[Raptor]]''

[[Image:RaptorWeapons.jpg|thumb|left|Raptor weapon pods ([[Exodus, Part II]]).]]

Raptors are usually unarmed, but can be outfitted with nuclear and conventional missiles - either carried under the wings or in a small bomb-bay on the underside - as well as a variety of fuselage-mounted weapon pods containing missiles or cannons.

In addition they are equipped with a number of defensive systems like [[Swallow|decoy drones]], chaffs, flares and an [[ECM]] suite.

<div style="clear: both;"></div>

== Handheld weapons ==

=== Small arms ===

The Colonials use a wide variety of pistols, rifles, and machine guns. Most of these are identical to real-world weapons. For a detailed comparison see: ''[[Small arms]]''

The most distinctive Colonial weapon is the standard issue pistol, which comes in two variations. It is a small bore semi-automatic pistol, with a bigger launcher attached under the barrel. This muzzle-loaded launcher can fire a single high-explosive round with each reload. It is carried by both Viper and Raptor pilots on all missions.

The ammunition's effectiveness is dependent on the armor of the target. While stranded on Caprica, rounds from Helo's pistol go straight through the head of a Centurion ([[33]], [[You Can't Go Home Again]]). However, Centurions boarding ''Galactica'' are equipped with better armor and the standard rounds prove to be completely ineffective against the boarding team. Explosive rounds are used by the defenders, which destroy Centurions' heads with a visible explosion. Since ''Galactica'' is not stocked with large amounts of this type of ammunition, it is not standard issue and only used when really necessary ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

On Kobol, the larger explosive rounds launched from a grenade launcher destroy a Centurion in a single shot with a large explosion, while standard pistol rounds are sufficient to disable Centurions ([[Home, Part I]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the resistance fighters use their weapons to disable Centurions from an unspecified range, indicating that either armor piercing rounds are being used, or the Centurions have weaker armor than the aforementioned Centurion boarding party ([[Exodus, Part I]] and [[Exodus, Part II|Part II]]).

Cylon [[Centurion]]s have a gun integrated into each of their arms, which serve as their main weapon. These guns fire armor piercing rounds of an unspecified caliber at high rates of fire, creating effective suppression fire against oncoming targets
([[Valley of Darkness]] and [[Exodus, Part II]]).

=== Heavy weapons ===

Colonial [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] have been seen using a shoulder-fired missile launcher to engage Centurions ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Centurions deployed on planets use mortars, which are carried on their backs for transport over land ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]").

=== Explosives ===

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] are used by humans in several forms, ranging from small quantities for forcing open doors to larger packs for heavy demolition work.

Furthermore, improvised explosive devices can be constructed with volatile [[tylium]] fuel ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

<gallery caption="Handheld weapons">
Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|Marines with a missile launcher.
Image:CenturionMortar.jpg|Centurions carrying mortars.
Image:G4_Occupation.jpg|G-4 explosives ([[Occupation]]).
</gallery>

==References==
<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Technology]]
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]
[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Terminology (RDM)]]
[[Category:RDM]]

Weapons in the Re-imagined Series

2007-01-21T19:45:54Z

Kregano: /* Small arms */

{{RDM science series}}

For easy reference Battlestar Wiki also uses the term "Kinetic Energy Weapon" and its acronym "KEW" to describe some of the weapons uses in the series. However these are not actual terms from within the series.

A kinetic energy weapon is a weapon that causes damage as a result of the kinetic energy (motion) imparted to a projectile. This includes firearms firing solid bullets first and foremost but may also include guns firing explosive shells.

In fan circles, the battelestar and Viper weapons are sometimes called [[w:railguns|railguns]]. However this has never been stated on screen and a lot of evidence, like the use of chemically propelled rounds, points to them being conventional guns. Indeed, the exact nature of these weapons is still being discussed by the production team (some like [[Gary Hutzel]] want them to be based on railgun technology, while some in the writing stafff feel that they are not railguns).<ref name = "viperguns">As related by [[Bradley Thompson]] in an [[BW:OC|Official Communiques]] entry on [[Battlestar_Wiki:Official_Communiques/Archive02#Guns_nomenclature|gun nomenclature]].</ref>

== Colonial battlestar armament ==

=== Main batteries ===

:''Main article: [[Battery]]''

Colonial battlestars are armed with large gun turrets, but their layout varies from class to class. On [[Galactica type battlestar]]s they are mounted on the dorsal surface, whereas [[Mercury class]] battlestars have forward-firing bow batteries, as well as smaller batteries along the sides of the [[flight pod]]s.

These are the main offensive weapon of a battlestar, but are also used to lay down defensive fire against incoming enemy ordnance and fighters.

=== Point defense guns ===

[[Image:Pointdefence 101 1080i.jpg|right|thumb|Some of ''Galactica'''s point defense turrets firing]]
[[Galactica type battlestar]]s are equipped with numerous point defense guns located along the entire sides of the flight pods. in twin mountings (the reported number of these varies greatly, with some sources stating 48 and others suggesting more than 500). Given the exceptionally high rate of fire they exhibit ([[33]]), they are most likely similar in nature to the [[Wikipedia:Phalanx CIWS|Phalanx CIWS]] used by many modern navies, which is a hopper-fed multi-barrelled autocannon slaved to a dedicated electronics suite.<br>
The entire system is tasked with destroying incoming projectiles. Sensors and expert systems identify and evaluate threats, assigning priorities to them based on data like distance and projected trajectory, while at the same time laying the cannon; this and firing are all done too quickly for a human crew to match. Like the Phalanx, the battlestars' point-defense systems do not recognize [[IFF]] signals ([[Scattered]]).

Although the main batteries are also used to engage incoming fighters and missiles, the point defense guns have a much higher rate of fire, thus making them more effective in that role.

====Drawbacks====
* Ordnance from such weapons is generally dumb: it has no guidance systems. Shots missing a target will continue with the momentum originally imparted to them, thus indescriminate shooting could result in a high incidence of friendly fire casualties.
**This is the reason [[Lee Adama]] warns his pilots to "keep out of ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> firing solution" during the battle at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] ([[Miniseries]]) and why he has to back off pursuit of the [[Heavy Raider]] in "[[Scattered]]".
* As stated, these types of weapon tend to destroy targets by shredding and shattering them. Therefore, even when the rounds themselves strike their intended target, the space around the defending ship will be filled with shrapnel traveling on the same path as the destroyed target, possibly at high enough velocities as to be dangerous should they strike the defending ship.

=== Missiles ===

Some battlestars, such as ''[[Valkyrie]]'' carry conventional missiles ([[Hero]]). It is unknown whether ''Galactica'' or ''Pegasus'' share this ability, although it is likely that the [[missile tubes]] could also be armed with non-nuclear weapons. Unlike the Cylons however, Colonial battlestars use their gun turrets as main weapon.

At least one ship in the civilian fugitive [[Fleet]], the ''[[Adriatic]]'', has been armed with shortrange ship-to-ship missiles ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Nuclear weapons ===

Battlestars carry a number of nuclear warheads. The standard number for a fully equipped battlestar is unknown, but ''Galactica'' still had five warheads at the time of its decommissioning, and was resupplied by ''Pegasus'' with at least four more (after using two).

They are usually fired from the ship's [[missile tubes]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]), but can also be mounted to [[Raptors]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Cylon basestar armament ==

[[Image:Bsmissiles.jpg|thumb|right|A Cylon basestar fires a barrage of missiles]]
Whereas the Colonials prefer artillery-style guns, the [[Cylon]]s appear to favor chemically-propelled missiles, that are mainly fired from launchers located in the "arms". Like with the Colonials, the Cylon missiles can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

The [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] also use large masses of [[Raider]]s instead of gun emplacements and appear to have no point defense weaponry.

In their renewed attack on the Twelve Colonies, the Cylons chose to undermine the Colonial Fleet's defense network by adding a [[backdoor]] in the Colonial's [[Wikipedia:Achille's Heel|Achille's Heel]]: the [[Command Navigation Program]]. Otherwise, the new war may have been either a protracted or short event, as several battlestars working together with their batteries will likely shred any offensive and defensive abilities of an equal number of basestars over time. An illustrated example of this is the two-on-two battlestar vs. basestar attack in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]". This is further supported by Adama's feeling that ''Galactica'', even at half-strength, could hold off a pair of baseships while the Colonists escape [[New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

== Small craft armament ==

=== Viper and Cylon Raider ===

==== Cannons ====

[[Image:cannon.gif|thumb|right|Autocannon illustration]]
* The [[Viper Mk II]] is equipped with two wing-mounted KEWs.
* The [[Viper Mk VII]] is equipped with two KEWs in the wings and a third in the vertical stabiliser ([[Scattered]]).
* The [[Cylon Raider]] is equipped with two KEWs under the wings close to the fuselage (possibly plus two more of lesser caliber, see below) ([[Act of Contrition]]).
* Both Colonial and Cylon KEWs are belt-fed ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

These are most likely autocannon systems, with at least some models utilising belt-fed ammunition ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The show's KEW are similar those found in real life in that they use chemical propellant to fire relatively small caliber projectiles from a single barrel at a high rate. The shells themselves can be solid, relying on their high velocities to impact and "shred" the target vehicle or fused to explode on impact. However, Viper ammunition shown on screen are also large enough to be explosive-filled and fused; they are also visually identical to real life 20 mm autocannon rounds ([[Epiphanies]]). The size of the Mk VII's guns and the profile of the rounds in motion suggest a smaller caliber than those of the Mk II, although the two have been described to share the same ammunition ([[Epiphanies]]); the two guns also appear to differ in their rate of fire.

Viper guns appear to be aimed entirely by the pilot during combat without the aid of any heads-up information being displayed. However, for such a weapon to be effective, the guns themselves would be ''harmonised'' (aligned for accuracy of and desired rate of fire) and the aiming system given a suitable period of ''deflection'' (the effective ability to follow, or "lead" a target into its line of fire).

The [[Cylon Raider]]s carry at least two KEWs of similar caliber to those of the Mk II [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]]s. However, there are also two smaller barrels visible on their underside, making for two barrels of different sizes per side. It is possible that these are smaller caliber KEWs. Whereas the larger caliber KEW would be firing explosive rounds, smaller caliber KEWs would be firing slugs. This is a combination common to fighters of the Second World War and the short-lived jet-powered gunfighters of the 1950s. The scene in which [[Kara Thrace]] loads the captured [[Cylon Raider]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" would seem to support the four gunned Raider hypothesis, as the rounds she is loading are way too small for the larger, more prominent barrels' bores, but about right for the smaller barrels. Furthermore, in "[[Epiphanies]]", Viper ammunition is shown to be a typical autocannon round in the 30mm neighbourhood, and a much closer match for the Raiders' larger barrels (though ironically, they looked a little large for the Vipers' gun barrels).

The distinctive glow of this ordnance - red for the Colonials and blue for the Cylons - is the result of interspersed [[w:Tracer ammunition|tracer]] ammunition, used as visual targeting aid by the pilots.<ref name="viperguns"/>

==== Missiles ====

While Vipers and Raptors usually rely on their cannons, both can be equipped with missiles - conventional and nuclear - when needed.

Shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]] on the Twelve Colonies, a Raider fires three nuclear missiles from internal bays at ''Galactica'' ([[Miniseries]]).<br>
During the ground portion of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]], [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] cannibalize parts of their [[Heavy Raider]] in order to create an anti-aircraft missile battery, which is later used to attack a search and rescue mission launched from ''Galactica'' ([[Fragged]]).

Vipers can be seen using missiles during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] ([[The Hand of God]]) and in a training exercise ([[Home, Part I]]).

=== Raptor ===

:''Main article: [[Raptor]]''

[[Image:RaptorWeapons.jpg|thumb|left|Raptor weapon pods ([[Exodus, Part II]]).]]

Raptors are usually unarmed, but can be outfitted with nuclear and conventional missiles - either carried under the wings or in a small bomb-bay on the underside - as well as a variety of fuselage-mounted weapon pods containing missiles or cannons.

In addition they are equipped with a number of defensive systems like [[Swallow|decoy drones]], chaffs, flares and an [[ECM]] suite.

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== Handheld weapons ==

=== Small arms ===

The Colonials use a wide variety of pistols, rifles, and machine guns. Most of these are identical to real-world weapons. For a detailed comparison see: ''[[Small arms]]''

The most distinctive Colonial weapon is the standard issue pistol, which comes in two variations. It is a small bore semi-automatic pistol, with a bigger launcher attached under the barrel. This muzzle-loaded launcher can fire a single high-explosive round with each reload. It is carried by both Viper and Raptor pilots on all missions.

The explosive round's effectiveness is determined by the armor of the Centurion targeted. In season one, rounds from Helo's pistol could go straight through the head of a Centurion. In "[[Valley of Darkness]]", explosive rounds destroyed Centurions' heads with a visible explosion. However, in "[[Home, Part I]]", the explosive rounds launched from a grenade launcher destroyed Centurions in a single shot with a large explosion. However, throughout season 3, no explosive rounds have been fired from pistols or the dedicated launchers.

Non-explosive ammunition also has unique properties. Most Colonial military weapons, including rifles, use pistol rounds, with some exceptions. In "[[Home, Part I]]", standard pistol rounds are able to disable Centurions, while in "[[Valley of Darkness]]", those rounds were totally ineffective against the Centurion boarding team. In "[[Exodus, Part I]]", the Resistance fighters used their weapons to disable Centurions from an unspecified range, indicating that either armor piercing rounds were being used, or the Centurions had weaker armor than the Centurion boarding party.

Cylon [[Centurion]]s have a gun integrated into each of their arms, which serve as their main weapon.

=== Heavy weapons ===

Colonial [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] have been seen using a shoulder-fired missile launcher to engage Centurions ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Centurions deployed on planets use mortars, which are carried on their backs for transport over land ("[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]").

=== Explosives ===

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] are used by humans in several forms, ranging from small quantities for forcing open doors to larger packs for heavy demolition work.

Furthermore, improvised explosive devices can be constructed with volatile [[tylium]] fuel ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

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Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|Marines with a missile launcher.
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Image:G4_Occupation.jpg|G-4 explosives ([[Occupation]]).
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Talk:Small arms/Archive 1

2007-01-21T16:07:11Z

Kregano:

I'll get some screen captures of some of these later, tonight or tomorrow. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:14, 9 January 2007 (CST)

== "POV" in terms of voice ==

While the article is informative, it's voiced "out-of-universe" and so reads more like a behind-the-scenes article of props than a description of what the weapon might be able to do based on its real-world counterpart or on-screen action. When I run into articles like this, I usually use a References section to move the behind-the-scenes comments or sources out of the way of the main text so that article reads better. Thoughts? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:24, 9 January 2007 (CST)
:Concur. Super-informative, but TONS of real world references. However... without the real world references, is there really much worth commenting on? "The Colonials use various pistols, rifles, and submachine guns, sometimes equipped with various accessories such as grenade launchers." That may be oversimplifying just a tad, but ultimately most of the notability of the small arms is the fact that they use some (particular) real world weapons (or at least props that look like real world weapons). Should there be a split between a "Small arms" article and a "behind the scenes" category "Weapons used in the Series" type article? However, as is stated in the opening paragraph, there's not much canon regarding the small arms, so the in-universe articl would be considerably smaller. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:53, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::SV gives my thoughts exactly, I support splitting it into two articles, a small realworld one, which won't have much. It'd have info on the explosive rounds and such, stuff we know. Then a "Weapons Used in Battlestar Galactica" or somesuch for the real-world gear. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:01, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:As said, the only thing this article has going for it, is what real-life weapons are used. There is really nothing else to say. Having two articles would be alright, even if one will be very short --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::Optionally, we can create a new article, "Props used in Battlestar Galactica". This would discuss the many real-life objects and their origin as this page does with weapons, and add these items. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:58, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:::I don't know. Generally, it's a good idea, but the guns are relatively prominent in the series, so there is a lot of information about them. Maybe enough to warrant an own sub-article in addition to the other props. A way to seperate the "real-world" information a bit could be to create a "behind the scenes" tag like "silly" and "seperate continuity".
:::Alternatively, if an in-universe small arms section is pretty small, we could just keep that information on [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]] and add explosives and the RPG from "Exodus, Part I" to it. Then an own tiny article isn't needed and this one could be renamed/reworded to make out more "behind the scenes" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:33, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::I like it. Small paragraph or two in "Weapons" for in-universe, rename/recatogorize/etc. this article to indicate behind the scenes. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:49, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Sounds like it generates the same effect I'd prefer to keep the voices right. Let's do that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:55, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::::So the voices are telling you that's the way it should be done? (Just don't talk back to the voices, they won't put up with sass.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:02, 11 January 2007 (CST)

== SA-80 comments ==

Are the issues surrounding the SA-80 rifle really relevant to this article? Aside from the fact that they are not entirely accurate (The current A2 version is seen as a marked improvement), these issues are not really important to someone's viewing or understanding of BSG.--[[User:Cohnee|Cohnee]] 05:53, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:Right. I'll remove it --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)

== standard pistol picture requested ==

Does anyone have a really good picture of the standard Colonial pistol? Preferably the Miniseries/early Season 2 version, that was based on a revolver, before they switched to the FN Five-SeveN. I think it's the most "iconic" weapon on BSG and would be a good picture for the general weapons article too. I know there are pics out there of just the weapon, not really screencaps (and not even fan replicas). But the best I could find, is from "Fragged" where Crashdown threatens Cally and Tyrols fires at the Centurions. If nothing turns up I'll use that, but just the pure weapon would be cool. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:04, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:To be honest, I think it'd be best to have a pic of the pistol that's seen most often; ie, the Five-seveN. I know the LeMat version was seen thoughout the miniseries and season one, but I'm pretty sure, scene for scene, we've seen (not scene! :P ) the Five-seveN more often. Either way, I have a couple of caps of both kicking around, whatever we decide. Let me know :) -[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 14:32, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::There is already a pic of the Five-SeveN there (though if you want a better one look at "Torn"). I just thought it'd be nice to have both. And the "original" is still around in early Season 2 (such as "Valley of Darkness"). I think Apollo even used in "Resurrection Ship, Part I" when he was de-armed in the Raptor. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:39, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::I can get one of the early pistol, there's a good shot in the Miniseries that should work. I'll keep an eye out for a better shot of the FNs too. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 18:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::::Yeah, the Mini has some good scenes like when Boomer and Helo hold off the refugees at the Raptor. But all shots I found were very blurry. Guess I could I make my own ones, but I know there are good ones somewhere out there. And now that I think about it, Tyrol's pistol from "Fragged" is likely the semi-auto version as well. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:::::There is an excellent side shot of the S1 pistol in "Resistance" when Helo wields the pistol and MP9. I'm not sure what the time code is, because I found the pic on bsgmedia.org's "Resistance" gallery. I'm sure someone with the Season 2.0 DVDs can get the shot. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 20:25, 19 January 2007 (EST)
::::::Aye, I got a screen capture of that when I was getting Skorpion pics. My internet's screwy at the moment (first time I've been online in about 48 hours. I'll upload it when it all stabilizes. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 19:43, 19 January 2007 (CST)
:::::::Excellent news. Can you get shots of the Resistance fighter weapons from that scene? I think Ander's pistol on "Resistance" had an underbarrel launcher too, but the only shot I've found is not very helpful. I think we need to get shots from S3 for the AK type rifle and the arms-cache from "Exodus, part 2". Shots of the Miniseries rifles would be great too. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 23:55, 19 January 2007 (EST)

== Ammo analysis ==

Should we have a section about the various types of ammunition used by small arms? I'm asking because ammo in various episodes have different effects. For example, the explosive rounds in "Valley of Darkness", which might be 12 gauge flares, are only powerful enough to destroy a Centurion's head, while in "Home, part One" a 12 gauge explosive round from the Protecta shotgun causes a large explosion that totally destroys the Centurion. Also Helo's pistol rounds during the restaurant fight scene, which went straight through the Centurion's head and the round he fired in the Miniseries, which have never been seen again.
--[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 11:04, 21 January 2007 (EST)