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Sometimes a Great Notion

2009-01-19T09:43:16Z

Khaosworks: slight correction based on referenced interview

{{Episode Data
| image=Sometimes A Great Notion Promo 026.JPG
| title= Sometimes a Great Notion
| season= 4
| episode=11
| forumthread=2307
| extra='''Season 4.5 Premiere'''
| guests=
| writer=[[David Weddle]] [[Bradley Thompson]] <ref>Mentioned by Ron Moore in the [[Podcast:Revelation|podcast]] for "[[Revelations]]".</ref>
| story=
| director= [[Michael Nankin]] <ref name="brad">{{oldlink|title=Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques|oldid=149966|text=Confirmed}} by [[Bradley Thompson]]</ref>
| production=413
| rating=
| US airdate=January 16, 2009 <ref>http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=2&id=61270</ref>
| CAN airdate=January 16, 2009 <ref>http://www.spacecast.com/bsg/</ref>
| UK airdate=January 20, 2009 <ref>TV guide in ScifiNow Magazine and Sky Magazine.</ref>
| dvd=
| population=
| prev=[[The Face of the Enemy]]
| next=[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]
}}

== Overview ==
[[Kara Thrace]] learns that the dire predictions of the Cylon [[Hybrid]] might be correct, and a devastating discovery plunges the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] into chaos and despair.''<ref>Episode description was unintentionally accessible on scifi.com until recently. Descriptions were noted on other websites before being removed, and editor confirmed them several days ago before removal from SciFi.com. </ref>

== Summary ==

===Act 1===
* The episode skips a teaser, beginning with the "Twelve Cylons" opener and the cast credits appearing as scenes of the devastated [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] appear.
* The leaders and central staff of both [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] and the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] wander about aimlessly on the surface of a planet whose surface has been utterly destroyed in a nuclear conflagration for some time. [[Saul Tigh]] stands on a desolate beach, staring out at the ruins of buildings, their mangled shortened skeletons jutting up from the lands ahead in jagged spires. [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Samuel Anders]] stand about the ruins in confusion, as does [[Anastasia Dualla]], who stoops at the water's edge to mournfully examine it.
* [[Lee Adama]] grimaces as he looks about the dead landscape as [[Laura Roslin]] picks up a short rounded prickly plant, the only visible life found on the world.
* [[Helo]] reports to Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]]: Other scouts report in from around the planet. The destruction is the same all over. No signs of human life and no responses to any hails. [[D'Anna Biers]] confirms her rebel [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] confirm the same result.
* [[Kara Thrace]] stands on the surface holding her Viper's Colonial emergency locator beacon, with a [[Leoben]], trying to home in on the signal only it can read, the signal that lead them to this world. The signal of the transmitting beacon is fading from a low battery. Leoben believes it must have been transmitting for a long time.
* Baltar has a team confirming that the radiation from the holocaust has embedded itself in the plant life and water chain. Helo gives a more detailed version of Baltar's findings: the planet was nuked over 2,000 years prior.
* Roslin quips, "It's perfect. We traded one nuked civilization for another." Adama orders his [[Raptor]] to leave.
* Dualla is near a breakdown as their Raptor returns to ''[[Galactica]]''.
* The [[hangar deck]] is filled with people, anxious for any news on the new world. But Roslin, typically someone who can manage to say anything in the darkest times, can only mutter to Adama, "Get me out of here." Lee Adama tries to placate the crowd's confusion and questions, shouting that the news will be revealed in due time.

===Act 2===

* Kara Thrace and Leoben continue to narrow in on the Colonial signal when she finds the beacon: a standard issue ''Colonial'' device used for all aircraft, part of their [[Avionics|inertial navigation system]].
* Leoben finds some wreckage and reads off the number on its charred skin: "8757-NC." Kara immediately becomes agitated. "The number on my [[Viper Mark II|(Viper)]] is 8757-NC," she says--the Viper that she flew back to the Fleet after she was [[Maelstrom|apparently killed]].

* On ''Galactica'', the Agathon family plays together happily as Dualla comes over to babysit little [[Hera Agathon]]. While Dualla says to the Agathons that she "looks forward" to spending time with the child, she later tells young Agathon as her parents leave, " You have no idea what's happened, do you? Today's just another day."

* On the planet, amidst some human skeletons dug up, [[Caprica-Six]] and others find something very unexpected: the remains of a head of what is obviously a type of Cylon Centurion, similar to the old [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|original model]] from the [[First Cylon War]], but clearly not the same.

* Aboard ''Galactica'' in Baltar's lab, Caprica-Six confirms that other Centurion helmets were found with about 250 skeletons from four sites around the planet as well. A [[Number Eight]] confirms that, while the Centurion design is similar, they have never seen this design before.
* Roslin notes that, apparently, the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] created their own Cylons (paralleling what occurred in the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]]). Lee Adama completes her sentence: Like on the Colonies, these Cylons also rebelled against their masters.
*Baltar notes that they dug deeper to test the skeletons themselves. The astonishing fact, confirmed by his Caprica-Six, is that the every one of the skeletons themselves are also [[Humanoid Cylons|a form of humanoid Cylons]]. ''The Thirteenth Tribe were Cylons''.
* After the meeting, Lee Adama asks Roslin what she will say to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]]. But a visibly disheartened Roslin has nothing to say at all. Admiral Adama tells his son to "carry the ball" for Roslin.
*As the admiral and Roslin leave, Tigh asks to speak to his friend, but the scene is unclear if Adama stops to listen.

*Back on the planet, [[Galen Tyrol]] is attracted to a fragment of wall. As he gets closer, he hears echoes of ghosts saying things like "Fresh fruit, get your fresh fruit!" He sees a human silhouette on the wall, looking as if it were painted there. Surrounding the silhouette is weathered writing, barely readable. Tyrol touches the silhouette--and is thrown into a vision of the world as it once was, and Tyrol as he once was, wearing glasses and a sportcoat as he passes through a bustling marketplace of open carts of fruit and flowers and other goods. He stops to buy an avacado himself then continues walking. A massively bright flash of light appears as Tyrol shields his eyes--
* Tyrol falls back to the dead planet, stumbling back, falling to the ground.

* Elsewhere, Kara Thrace questions that, if her Viper is scattered about this planet, then who flew it here, and how did she herself get back to ''Galactica''. Leoben cautions her, telling her she may not like what she finds. Thrace is perturbed by his words as Leoben has been, typically, very optimistic in his words to her in the past. She questions if the news would be more disturbing to her, or to Leoben himself.

* In the [[ready room]], Lee Adama stands in thought as Dualla appears, asking him why he hasn't boarded a readied Raptor for his Quorum briefing on ''[[Colonial One]]''. Adama laments the many pilots that had once sat here, many of them lost forever over a dead dream. He doesn't want their sacrifice to be meaningless.
* Dualla tells him that his expression reminds her of what he looked like when his father said that he would [[Exodus, Part I|execute the New Caprica rescue with ''Galactica'' alone.]] When he wonders what to say to the Quorum, Dualla tells him to tell the truth. "If anyone can give them a reason to go on, it's you. Apollo." As he leaves, hesitant, he asks her to meet him for a drink later. She accepts.

* Kara Thrace finds a large piece of wreckage, overturned. She and Leoben turn it over. It's a Viper cockpit, the burnt remains of its pilot still helmeted, still inside. Cautiously, she lifts the head to find it had blonde hair...''her'' hair. Thrace retches.
* As tears well up, she reaches inside the [[flight suit]] of the body to pull out the [[dog tags]]. In clear letters, the tags read "K. THRACE." A ring, her wedding band, is also attached to the chain. Leoben steps back in fear as Thrace asks for an explanation. "I--I don't have one," he says. She recalls what the [[Hybrid]] said, that she would be the "harbinger of death." She yells to the Leoben as he walks away, unable to answer her question, "If that's me sitting there, then what am I?!"

===Act 3===
* [[Samuel Anders]] finds the remains of a stringed instrument, probably a guitar. He holds the neck piece, placing his fingers on it as if to play as he recalls a song: [[The Music|"So let us not talk falsely now, 'cause the hour is getting late."]]. He drops the neck and runs to find Tyrol, sitting placidly by the wall and the vision. They both share their visions, both realizing they lived there, in that area, once. Anders recalls that he played that song for a woman he loved. They are joined by [[Tory Foster]], who also recalls that he played that song for [[Final Five|all of us]].
* "That was me," Tyrol says, pointing to the flash-silhouette on the wall, the ashen remains of his body that were bonded to the wall with the force of thousands of degrees.
* Anders angrily questions the paradox. Why they were all still alive? How did they come to the Colonies, to believe they were human? "Two thousand years is a long time to forget!" he says.

* In Admiral Adama's quarters, Laura Roslin sits on the floor. She has set fire to one of the pages of the [[Sacred Scrolls]], specifically, the Pythian Prophecy, turning successive pages to burn each into ash, one by one.
* Adama arrives to ask Roslin to help figure out a way to shore up the Fleet's quickly sagging morale. She is passive. He tells her that she'd missed her [[doloxan]] treatment. Roslin "didn't feel like it," she says, refusing to reschedule. "You just gonna...lie down and quit?" Adama asks. She laments that he took her advice to leave their Colonial solar system, of all the men and women who had died for what appears to be a fruitless series of visions.

* In the twilight, Kara Thrace creates a funeral pyre, burning the corpse of herself found in the wreckage, sitting alone as the flames consume it.

* Lee Adama and Dualla come back from her date as he humorously (and drunkenly) recalls his report to the Quorum. "We are no longer enslaved to the ramblings of Pythia, no longer pecking at the bread crumbs of the Thirteenth Tribe...We are now free to go where we want to go, be who we want to be." Dualla smiles back warmly as they kiss. But Dualla holds him back from more than the kiss, enters her quarters and locks the door. Inside, [[Felix Gaeta]] watches her as she hums. "You're glowing," he says coldly. Dualla chides him. "I want to hold on to this feeling for as long as I can." She looks at a childhood picture of herself in her opened locker, taking off her dog tags. "She has no idea what she has ahead of her," she says of her younger self. Gaeta leaves as Dualla stops humming, calmly places her wedding ring on the locker hook.
* Without any hesitation at all, Dualla pulls out a sidearm from her locker, places it against her temple, and fires.
* [[Diana Seelix]] arrives inside first, with Gaeta not far behind. Both are aghast at the sight of Dualla's body, blood pooling around her hands. They call for medics repeatedly in fear and distress as the scene ends.

===Act 4===

* Lee Adama stands by the shrouded body of Anastasia Dualla in the ship's morgue as his father enters. "She kissed me goodnight 45 minutes ago, and there was joy in her eyes. So tell me why would she do this?" Lee asks. The admiral's stony face melts into a drunken expression. "I don't frakkin' know," he slurs out, taking out a bottle of alcohol to offer to Lee, who refuses it. Anger rising in his face, Lee leaves, passing by Gaeta outside without a word.
* Inside, Admiral Adama looks under the shroud momentarily, covers Dualla's body, as he cries, holding her head, asking to himself, "What did you do?" He kisses the body, saying, "I let you down. I let everybody down."

* Adama comes out into a corridor, demands a sidearm from one of the [[marines]] standing there. Adama storms down a corridor as other stand or sit expressionless. Two men are fist-fighting, crossing Adama's path. He ignores them as he heads to Saul Tigh's quarters.
* "Sit down, Cylon," Adama says angrily after pulling out Tigh's sidearm, arms it and drops it on a table. Adama pours both of them a drink, but Tigh slowly pushes it away.
* Tigh tries to apologize about his revelation of being a Cylon, but Adama is beyond angry. "Is that how it worked? They program you to be my friend? Emulate all the qualities I respect. Tell me jokes...and I laugh at them."
* Tigh counters that he wanted, chose to be his friend. Adama throws insult after insult about [[Ellen Tigh]], angering Tigh to pick up the sidearm to shoot his friend. "Do it! Or I'll do it myself!" Adama says, pointing his own sidearm to his temple.

===Act 5===

* Tigh's gun is pointed at Adama's forehead, but he hesitates pulling the trigger. Adama goads him, "Go on," but Tigh realizes, returning Adama's insult as he rips out the gun's magazine and safes the weapon. "I'm sorry, Bill, but this is the one time I can't help you." Adama drops his gun and reaches for a bottle, but Tigh tries to stop him.
* Adama drinks from a glass anyway as he speaks of his uncle as a kid in the summers spent there, of foxes that would attack his henhouses, of the dog hunts that chased down the foxes at night, forming into a team, forcing the fox toward the river. Half of the foxes would fight, the others would try to cross the river. But some of them would turn with the current, swimming away into the sea. "Because they wanted to drown," Tigh adds. "Maybe. Or maybe they were just...tired."
* Tigh, uncharacteristically, becomes the one that gives Adama a dressing-down, telling him that he can't be like the foxes lost to the sea, reminding him that he is the commander and Tigh is still the XO of the ship, that killing himself would not help himself, or the ship.

* On ''Colonial One'', Lee Adama slowly wipes away a numeral "1" from the [[Survivor count|survivor count]] board as Kara Thrace arrives. Kara tells him that she lost the signal. Lee tells her the news about Dualla. Both can only wonder why Dualla did what she did.

* Adama passes by more passive crewman and some graffiti: "Frak Earth", sprayed on the wall as he heads to [[CIC]]. Ordering [[Hoshi]] to Dualla's old communications station, he orders Gaeta to find any nearby stars compatible with habitable planets, and for Hoshi to invite the rebel Cylons to their next destination. Adama addresses the Fleet, telling them that, while Earth is no longer a choice, he will find them a new home. "This is a promise I intend to keep."

* Saul Tigh greets D'Anna Biers as others evacuate back to the Fleet. D'Anna doesn't want to leave, deciding to stay behind, believing that the cycle of life will keep going on as dreadfully as before. "...and it beats the hell out of being out there with [[Cavil]]. Gonna die in the cold and the dark when Cavil catches up with us." Tigh tries to give encouragement, but D'Anna asks if he ever wanted to just give up, reminding him of Adama's story of the penned-in foxes.
* Tigh later appears to be walking into the sea. Chest-deep in water and continuing down, he has a vision...of destruction in a building, a wall of apartment mailboxes behind him. He hears Ellen, finds her trapped under debris he cannot move. As his real body pulls debris out of the water, Tigh tries to clear the rubble around Ellen. She tells him, as more bombs go off, flashing bright, "Saul, it's okay. Everything's in place. We'll be reborn...again. Together."
* The vision fades as Tigh realizes the truth. "Ellen...Ellen! You're the [[Final Five|fifth!]]"

== Notes ==

* [[Katee Sackhoff]] noted that this episode could have served as the series finale had the [[WGA strike]] gone longer.<ref name="roadrunner">{{cite_web|url=http://roadrunnerdm.livejournal.com/84288.html|title=Roadrunner - Newsdump from Burbank convention|date=19 November 2007|accessdate=20 November 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref> However, the strike ended with sufficient time for production to resume; the previous episode was aired as the mid-season finale, with this episode airing in the first quarter of 2009.
* The scenes were among the last shot and were shot during the crew's shut down party due to the [[WGA strike|2008 Writers Strike]], so Sackhoff was unable to attend.<ref name="roadrunner"/>
*The title of the episode comes from the novel ''[[w:Sometimes a Great Notion (novel)|Sometimes a Great Notion]]'' by [[w:Ken Kesey|Ken Kesey]], which itself quotes the blues song "[[w:Goodnight, Irene|Goodnight, Irene]]". In the song, the singer contemplates suicide: "Sometimes I get a great notion / to jump in the river and drown."<ref name="chicagotribune">{{cite web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/final-fifth-cylon-ellen-tigh-battlestar-galactica-dualla-dee-.html|title=Chicago Tribune: 'Battlestar Galactica's' Ron Moore addresses the shocking developments of 'Sometimes a Great Notion'|date=17 January 2009|accessdate=19 January 2009|last=Ryan|first=Maureen|format=|language}}</ref>
*The last Cylon is finally revealed in a vision Colonel Tigh has of the past: it is his dead wife, Ellen Tigh.
*While "[[The Face of the Enemy]]" webisodes were released before "Sometimes a Great Notion", they actually take place several days after it.

== Analysis ==
*The Cylons have testing methods of their own which can distinguish between human and Cylon remains.
*The Thirteenth Tribe Cylons were apparently all unique models and included children, based on the child's playthings found by Dualla.
*Saul Tigh also had the first name "Saul" in his past life.

== Questions ==
*What was the source of the nuclear attacks on Earth?
*Was Ellen Tigh able to resurrect after her death in "[[Exodus, Part II]]"?
*Was Ellen Tigh aware of her Cylon identity?
*Was Ellen Tigh the one who Number Three apologized to in [[Rapture|her vision?]]
*What is Kara Thrace?
*Is the corpse found in the field the "real" Kara Thrace? If so, how and when did her Viper get to Earth? And how did so much of her Viper and body remain relatively intact after seemingly being completely disintegrated in the gas giant?
*Why does Thrace keep the dog tags and wedding ring found on the body?
*Will Thrace or Conoy tell anyone about their discovery? How will others respond to this information?
*How will the other Cylons respond to the discovery of the identities of the Final Five?
*How did the Final Five come to be living in the Twelve Colonies 2000 years after their deaths on Earth, without their memories and unaware of being Cylons?
*What similarities and differences exist between the method by which the Final Five were reborn and the Significant Seven's process of [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]]?
*Did Thirteenth Tribe Cylons have any influence on the development of the Significant Seven 2000 years later, or was it mere parallel evolution?
*How did the Significant Seven come to be aware of the existence, though not the identities, of the Final Five?
*Are there other survivors of the Thirteenth Tribe besides the Final Five?
*Does the presence of children among the Thirteenth Tribe indicate that they reproduced among themselves?
*If the Thirteenth Tribe reproduced biologically, did the Final Five have Cylon parents, grandparents or other ancestors on Earth?
*Did Baltar's Cylon detector successfully identify Ellen Tigh in "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]"? If so, why did Baltar withhold that information from Number Three during their search for the Final Five?
*Should Number Three remain behind on Earth, who will take over as the leader of the rebel Cylon faction?

== Official Statements ==
*Ronald D. Moore had confirmed that Dualla is dead and that Ellen Tigh is in fact the Final Cylon.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*'''''Saul Tigh''' upon seeing Ellen Tigh in a flashback on Earth:''
: "Ellen - You're the Fifth!"

*''After finding her body, '''Kara Thrace''' shouts to Leoben:''
: "What am I?!"

*'''''Laura Roslin's''' assessment of Earth:''
: "It's perfect. We traded one nuked civilization for another."

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|D'Anna Biers]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]] / [[Leoben Conoy]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]
* [[Alexandra Thomas]] as [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]
* [[Don Thompson]] as Specialist [[Anthony Figurski]]
* [[Sonja Bennett]] as Specialist [[Marcie Brasko]]
* [[Jennifer Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix]]

== References ==
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The Final Five

2008-04-06T08:26:28Z

Khaosworks: Redirecting to Final Five

#REDIRECT [[Final Five]]

Gunny

2007-12-16T05:33:38Z

Khaosworks: New page: '''Gunny''' is a nickname for someone who holds the rank of Gunnery Sergeant, and has been applied to two characters in the Re-imagined Series. * Lt. Terry Burrell, in the episode "[[...

'''Gunny''' is a nickname for someone who holds the rank of Gunnery Sergeant, and has been applied to two characters in the Re-imagined Series.

* Lt. [[Terry Burrell]], in the episode "[[Sacrifice]]".
* Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]], a recurring character introduced in the episode "[[Exodus, Part I]]".

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Jaycie

2007-12-16T05:19:13Z

Khaosworks: Redirecting to Jaycie McGavin

#REDIRECT [[Jaycie McGavin]]

Talk:Jaycie McGavin/Archive 1

2007-12-15T18:15:13Z

Khaosworks:

Where do we learn her name from? Can't hear it in the Flashbacks. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 17:20, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
:[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/razor/credits/ Here.] -- [[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 17:23, 16 October 2007 (CDT)

== Goldbrick ==

The name, "Goldbrick", comes from the subtitles. It is treated as a proper noun there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 12:00, 15 December 2007 (CST)
:That's as may be, but are subtitles anywhere authoritative? The line of dialogue that Adama uses about sickbay makes the more traditional meaning of goldbrick and "goldbricker" more likely. The subtitler might have been making the wrong assumption. --[[User:Khaosworks|khaosworks]] ([[User talk:Khaosworks|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Khaosworks|contribs]]) 12:03, 15 December 2007 (CST)
::Well, that depends on whether the person keying in the subtitles didn't use the script as reference. The best route would be to ask [[BW:OC|Bradley]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 12:09, 15 December 2007 (CST)
:::We could make a footnote about the source and that we aren't sure. It can actually be both. Callsigns are often derived from persons' negative traits or something stupid they did. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:11, 15 December 2007 (CST)
::::That would be for the best, since goldbrick is also defined as "a thing that looks valuable, but is in fact worthless". Or it could be in reference to her golden hair. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 12:13, 15 December 2007 (CST)
:::::Sounds good to me. --[[User:Khaosworks|khaosworks]] ([[User talk:Khaosworks|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Khaosworks|contribs]]) 12:15, 15 December 2007 (CST)

Jaycie McGavin

2007-12-15T18:04:47Z

Khaosworks: I don't think Goldbrick is the callsign... subtitles aren't authoritative, are they?

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'''Jaycie McGavin''' is a [[Raptor]] pilot aboard ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' during the twelfth year of the first [[Cylon War]].

During her first mission, she recalls being in a [[Raider (TOS)|Raider]]'s sights and, through instinct and training, destroys the Raider.

By the time she reaches the rank of lieutenant, she has a romantic, or at least sexual, relationship with Viper [[rook]] [[William Adama]]. She is part of a mission to attack a remote Cylon outpost on an unnamed ice planet, attached to [[Raptor Squadron 2]] for the attack ([[Razor Flashbacks]], Episode 1).

During "[[Operation Raptor Talon]]," McGavin is badly wounded, suffering severe burns on half her face when her Raptor's console explodes ([[Razor Flashbacks]], Episode 2).

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Talk:Jaycie McGavin/Archive 1

2007-12-15T18:03:19Z

Khaosworks:

Jaycie McGavin

2007-12-15T17:54:41Z

Khaosworks: I don't think her callsign is Goldbrick - Goldbrick means malingerer, and that's the context Adama was using it in.

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'''Jaycie McGavin''' is a [[Raptor]] pilot aboard ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' during the twelfth year of the first [[Cylon War]].

During her first mission, she recalls being in a [[Raider (TOS)|Raider]]'s sights and, through instinct and training, destroys the Raider.

By the time she reaches the rank of lieutenant, she has a romantic, or at least sexual, relationship with Viper [[rook]] [[William Adama]]. She is part of a mission to attack a remote Cylon outpost on an unnamed ice planet, attached to [[Raptor Squadron 2]] for the attack ([[Razor Flashbacks]], Episode 1).

During "[[Operation Raptor Talon]]," McGavin is badly wounded, suffering severe burns on half her face when her Raptor's console explodes ([[Razor Flashbacks]], Episode 2).

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Kara Thrace

2006-12-04T02:01:52Z

Khaosworks: /* Notes */

:''This article discusses the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]] character with the pilot callsign of "Starbuck." For information on Kara Thrace's counterpart in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], see [[Starbuck (TOS)]].''

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|marital status= Married to [[Samuel Anders]] (formerly engaged to [[Zak Adama]]†)
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'''Kara "Starbuck" Thrace''', serial number 462753, is a gifted Viper pilot — and knows it. This leaves her with an attitude that has at times thwarted her career advancement. However, thanks to [[William Adama]], Thrace's skills in battle have extended beyond the cockpit to greatly aid the Fleet.

== Background ==
*In an unhappy childhood, Thrace was so frequently beaten by her mother that she came to accept pain as a way of life ([[Flesh and Bone]]).
*Her father was a pianist ([[Valley of Darkness]]), suggesting that her formerly broken finger bones on both hands had been intentionally broken by a parent using her father's piano ([[The Farm]]).
*Thrace left home to join the [[Colonial Fleet|military]].
* She was a very talented [[pyramid]] player ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]), and received a scholarship to the Fleet Academy to play pyramid. During this time, she injured her knee and was no longer able to play pyramid at a professional level. During that time, however, she discovered a passion and skill at being a fighter pilot ([[Podcast:The Hand of God]]). On graduating from Colonial Flight School, she undertook a period of active duty before returning to flight school as an instructor.
*Thrace fell in love with a young recruit, [[Zak Adama]]. Despite his mediocre performance, she passed him on his final flight examination, despite failing three of the required maneuvers ([[Act of Contrition]]).
*Thrace's engagement to Zak Adama ends when he was killed during a routine mission shortly after graduating. At the time, [[Lee Adama]], Zak's elder brother, blamed their father for Zak Adama's death. In her guilt, Thrace did little to alter this idea. She did, however, meet [[William Adama]] shortly after the accident, and the two struck up such a strong rapport that they stood together at the funeral ([[Act of Contrition]]).
*Thrace resigned from flight school as a instructor and transferred as an operational pilot aboard [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] ''[[Galactica]]'' under the command of William Adama, where she served for some two years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] on the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]]. Before the Cylon attack, she was second in command of the remaining pilots, subordinate to the [[CAG]], [[Jackson Spencer]].
*At the time of the Cylon attack she has an run-down apartment in [[Delphi]] that overlooks a parking lot. She rarely used the dilapidated apartment. She was also a very avid painter, and her apartment was cluttered with her paintings ([[Valley of Darkness]]).
*Despite her reckless approach to life, Thrace hides the fact that she is deeply spiritual. She frequently prays (or talks) to the [[Lords of Kobol]], particularly [[Aphrodite]] and [[Artemis]] in times of need ([[Miniseries]], "[[Flesh and Bone]]", "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]").

==Character History at a Glance==
*Thrace's attitude quickly runs her afoul of Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], ''Galactica's'' [[Executive officer]]. Their open mutual dislike of one another leads to the point where blows are exchanged, with Thrace ending up in the brig. After the Cylon attack she is released from the brig and returns to duty as ''Galactica's'' Viper pilot.
*Thrace manages to keep two of three nuclear missiles from striking ''Galactica'' in their first Cylon sortie, and saves Captain Adama from doom in an innovative maneuver in the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage]].
*Her skills in saving Apollo brings her grudging respect from Colonel Tigh, but she is unable to accept his offer of the olive branch - an act that will have repercussions for her later ([[Miniseries]]).

[[image:Bastille_Day-Starbuck_Boxey.jpg|thumb|left|[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] as acting [[CAG]] with [[Boxey (RDM)|Boxey]] as assistant in [[Bastille Day]].]]
*Thrace participates in a hostage rescue mission aboard the ''[[Astral Queen]]''. Following the successful mission, Thrace tries to mend fences between herself and Colonel Tigh with a toast (consisting of water), apologizing in much the same way as Tigh himself had tried after their initial escape from [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. But Tigh rejects Thrace's apology, stating that her flaws are professional, while his flaws were personal ([[Bastille Day]]).
*Thrace eventually admits her secret about Zak Adama to William Adama himself, an act that brings their close friendship almost to the breaking point ([[Act of Contrition]]).
*During a surprise encounter with Cylons during [[nugget]] training, Starbuck destroys several Cylon Raiders, but her ship is damaged and tumbles towards a small red moon with an unbreathable atmosphere. With her Viper in a fatal flat-spin, Starbuck is forced to eject from her Viper ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]).
*Thrace (nursing a damaged knee) repairs the downed Cylon Raider found on the inhabitable moon and returns to ''Galactica'', giving the Fleet a vital piece of Cylon fighter technology for study and use.
*The recovering Thrace, off flight status, is asked by Commander Adama to plan a special attack on a Cylon [[tylium]] refinery. The tactical planning role is not something she relishes, and she frequently shows resentment towards others for her condition ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).
*During Thrace's undesired interrogation of a Cylon prisoner, a copy of a known [[Cylon agent]] named [[Leoben Conoy]], she uses some drastic acts to try to extract the information from the Cylon agent ([[Flesh and Bone]]).
[[image:Starbuck-Kobols_Last_Gleaming_pt2.jpg|thumb|right|'''Starbuck''' retrieves the [[Arrow of Apollo]] in [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]].]]
*Thrace is assigned to plant a nuclear device on board a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] in orbit around [[Kobol]]. Disobeying orders to retrieve the [[Arrow of Apollo]] by President Roslin's request, disillusioned by Commander Adama, she Jumps to Caprica ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]), landing in [[Delphi]].
*In the [[Delphi Museum of the Colonies]] with the Arrow, she is violently attacked by a copy of [[Number Six]]. Despite being heavily outmatched in the fight, Thrace luckily defeats the Cylon.
*At the museum, she reunites with [[Karl Agathon|Helo]], whom she thought dead, and discovers a second copy of [[Sharon Valerii]], realizing instantly that the woman is a Cylon.
*Valerii, fearing for her child, steals Thrace's Raider. In exasperation, Starbuck could only mutter: "Bitch took my ride" ([[Scattered]]). Like Helo, Starbuck was left with no way to return to the Fleet unless she could find her Raider or another Cylon spacecraft, as enemy FTL engines were the only ones sufficently powerful to reach the Fleet.
*Starbuck berates Helo's love for the Caprica copy of Valerii. Thrace finds the keys of her surplus military utility vehicle in her old jacket in her old apartment. Thrace has a ride again, if only to move more efficiently about Caprica ([[Valley of Darkness]]).
*Thrace and Helo meet a [[Caprica Resistance|resistance movement]] on Caprica. Thrace and [[Samuel Anders]] strike up a rapport as fellow [[pyramid (RDM)|pyramid]] players and end up as lovers.
*During planning to steal a [[Heavy Raider]], Thrace is shot in a military action, waking up in a hospital on Caprica. Thrace is told by her doctor, [[Simon]], that Anders died from wounds he suffered in getting Thrace to safety.
*Thrace discovers that Simon is working with a [[Number Six|known Cylon agent]]. She overhears that the next day he plans to extract her ovaries for use in the Cylon's attempts to study and create a hybrid Cylon/human embryo. Simon also makes the mistake of calling Thrace by her callsign, Starbuck, which she had never revealed.
*Staggering and in pain, Thrace kills Simon and escapes the hospital, but not before clocking a Six copy with a fire extinguisher and destroying the local farm power supply, mercy-killing [[Sue-Shaun]] and several other women in the facility.
*Another Simon copy appears just as the Resistance attacks the facility. The second Simon, now revealed as a Cylon agent himself, is immediately killed by the Resistance, but a squad of [[Cylon Centurion]]s appear and pins the Resistance down. Luckily, Helo's [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|copy of Sharon Valerii]] swoops in with a stolen [[Heavy Raider]], destroys the Centurions and flies the Resistance and Thrace out of harm's way.
*Thrace promises to Anders that she'll [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I|return with a rescue mission]] for the remaining survivors. Anders returns the Arrow of Apollo to Thrace, which he hid on the resistance grounds for safekeeping ([[The Farm]]).
*Thrace, Helo and the pregnant Valerii land on the ''[[Astral Queen]]'' in the Heavy Raider. Finding the [[Laura Roslin faction]] in orbit of [[Kobol]], Thrace is reunited with Lee Adama. He kisses her impulsively, catching Thrace by pleasant surprise, but a tense standoff follows when Adama discovers that another Valerii copy has returned with them. Roslin helps defuse the situation, and Thrace delivers the Arrow of Apollo to the President.
*Temporarily removed from miltary protocol, Lee Adama playfully teases Thrace by stealing a pyramid ball she took from Caprica. Adama senses her depression about Caprica and tells her that he'd be happy to hear about any problems she had. He also let slip that he loved her, which brightened Thrace's mood to the point where she teased him back about his slip.
*With a team led by Laura Roslin, Lee Adama, and, later, joined by the recovered Commander Adama, Thrace enters the [[Tomb of Athena]] and successfully uses the Arrow of Apollo to activate a hologram that shows constellations of the Twelve Colonies' ancient symbols.
*Thrace realizes that they are on a recreation of Earth. Together with Lee Adama, they locate the Lagoon Nebula, a celestial body known to Commander Adama and Lee Adama, and gather sufficient information to begin an actual course to Earth ([[Home, Part II]]).
*Thrace shows off the impressive stealth abilities in the new [[Blackbird]] fighter in her maiden flight ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).
*With the arrival of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', Admiral [[Helena Cain]] summarily assigns Thrace (and Lee Adama) to ''Pegasus'' after digesting the reports of ''Galactica'''s officers.
*[[Cole Taylor|The ''Pegasus'' CAG]] removes Thrace from the Cylon recon mission. Lee Adama secretly tells her to use the [[Blackbird]] to take recon photos of the Cylon Unknown ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).
*Returning from her very successful mission, the [[Blackbird]]'s lack of a Colonial transponder is mistaken for a Cylon [[Raider]] on [[DRADIS]], and Starbuck is nearly confronted and shot at by Vipers from ''Pegasus'' and ''Galactica''. After narrowly avoiding certain death by declaring herself a friendly, Thrace transmits her recon photos to ''Pegasus''.
*Admiral Cain is very impressed with Starbuck's performance and promotes her to Captain and ''Pegasus'' CAG.
*Thrace is assigned the task of planning the joint attack on the Resurrection Ship, but successfully asks to have Lee Adama on her team, restoring him to flight status.
*After she briefs Cain and Commander Adama on her battle plan, Adama asks Thrace privately to assassinate Cain after the battle is complete. Adama fears that if Cain continues to command, the Fleet would be in mortal jeopardy from Cain's draconian command ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).
*Thrace's battle planning, as before on the [[tylium]] [[The Hand of God (RDM)|mine]], works to near-perfection, with the Resurrection Ship destroyed and its supporting basestars.
*As a result of the battle events, Thrace is left without backup as she walks to the ''Pegasus'' CIC to shoot Cain, obviously afraid and apprehensive. When Commander Adama calls, Thrace slowly moves her hand to her sidearm but, to her relief, Adama does not give the kill order and cryptically instructs her to stand down ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).
*Starbuck and [[Kat]] are involved in the protection of a mining operation from periodic Raider attacks. One Raider, nicknamed [[Scar (Raider)|Scar]], fuels an intensive rivalry for the pilot's "top gun" honor. Thrace, still depressed over her inability to convince Fleet command to initiate a rescue for Samuel Anders and his resistance, drinks heavily and obsesses over removing Scar from the sky, even at the cost of her life. Fortunately, Starbuck realizes the futility of her actions, and works together with Kat to destroy the remarkably dangerous Raider ([[Scar]]).
*A few weeks later, Thrace takes leave on ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' when she was dragooned into rescuing Lee Adama and several other ''Galactica'' crew and residents after terrorists take them hostage in exchange for the incarcerated [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Sharon Valerii]]. Thrace gathers intel on the situation, but her cover is blown. In the retreating firefight, Lee Adama is caught in the crossfire. After the situation is resolved, Thrace intended to sit at Adama's bedside, only to discover that Dualla beat her there ([[Sacrifice]]).
*Later, Thrace is assigned to ''Pegasus'' as a flight trainer. Though the pilots like her, Commander [[Barry Garner]] does not, eventually confining her to quarters for "insubordination." Following the [[Battle of the Binary Star System|ill-fated rescue and retreat]] from a Cylon ambush (where Thrace leads the fighters), Thrace informs new ''Pegasus'' Commander Lee Adama that she was taking over his old CAG post aboard ''Galactica'' ([[The Captain's Hand]]).
*Thrace gets her wish: The Caprica rescue is approved, and she leads a large Raptor squadron to the planet. The group soon met up with Anders, who reports that their HQ had been destroyed and Thrace's timing was just perfect. A squad of Centurions ambush and pin down the group moments later ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]).
*Still pinned down from attack fire, Starbuck and Anders agree to kill each other to avoid capture and interrment at a [[Farms|farm]]. But the attack stops, and a [[Cavil|man]] appears, praising the [[Lords of Kobol|Gods]] as he announces that the Cylons not only have ceased fire, but are abandoning the Twelve Colonies. Starbuck isn't really surprised to discover that the man, known as Brother [[Cavil]], was a Cylon upon their return to the Fleet.
*Starbuck and Anders proceed to get drunk, and host a disastrous visitation with Lee Adama. This apparently led to a rift between the two comrades.
[[Image:Leobenkara.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Leoben with Kara.]]
*The evening of the founding of [[New Caprica]], Thrace slept with Lee Adama and proclaimed her love for him as she was uncertain regarding her feelings toward Anders. The following morning she quickly married Anders in a ceremonry near the river. This caused a rift between Kara and Lee that lasted for over a year.
*Life on New Caprica tempered Thrace, and she often behaved in ways Starbuck never would have, including hugging Colonel Tigh and pampering Anders during his bout with an illness.
*She watches in horror at the sudden arrival of hundreds of Cylon ships in the sky over New Caprica. A few of ''Galactica's'' former crew gather near Thrace, looking to her for guidance. Starbuck responds the only way she knows how: "Fight 'em until we can't" ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).
*After Baltar's surrender of New Caprica, Conoy keeps Thrace prisoner in an apartment located within the Cylon-built [[New Caprica Detention Center]] in an attempt to convince Thrace that she loves him and also convert her to the [[Cylon Religion|Cylon monotheistic religion]]. She repeatedly kills Conoy a total of five times in an attempt to convince him to let her go ([[Occupation]], [[Precipice]]).
*Conoy introduces Thrace to a small child named [[Kacey]], who appears to be approximately two to three years in age, whom he claims is their biological daughter. He explains that the child was created using one of Thrace's extracted ovaries ([[The Farm]]) and his genetic material. Conflicted, Thrace leaves the child unattended, which later results in Kacey falling down the apartment's stairs ([[Precipice]]). After the fall, Thrace begins to change her attitude towards the child and begins to offer affection towards Conoy ([[Precipice]], [[Exodus, Part I]]).
*Upon her return to ''Galactica'' after Admiral Adama's daring rescue attempt, Thrace heartbreakingly discovers that Kacey was simply another manipulation on Conoy's part — Kacey is merely a human child whom the Cylons had abducted months ago ([[Exodus, Part II]]).
*Bearing the psychological scars of her four month ordeal with Leoben and Kacey, Thrace is recruited by [[Seelix]] as a last minute replacement juror in [[The Circle]] after [[Samuel Anders]]' resignation. She is the fifth vote to find Gaeta of treason and collaboration. Thrace's involvement in the Circle precipitates the breakup of her marriage with Anders. Later, when Gaeta is about to be sentenced and executed in one of ''Galactica's'' [[launch tubes]], she demands him to beg for his life. Thrace physically assaults him and goes down the litany of "lies" that Gaeta told her earlier about him helping the [[New Caprica Resistance|insurgency]]. As she does so, [[Galen Tyrol]], one of the Circle's jurors and the sixth vote to convict, overhears this and confirms the story. In a sense of confusion after learning that Gaeta was telling the truth, Thrace leaves the launch tube ([[Collaborators]]).
*During a combat exercise between Vipers, Thrace breaks formation and collides with another pilot, forcing an end to the war games and causing Apollo to revoke her flight status. Later, at her bunk she is met by Kacey and her mother, whom she dismisses, telling Kacey's mother not to visit her again. In the pilots' rec room, Thrace and Colonel Tigh begin to sow dissent between the survivors of New Caprica and the crew that stayed behind on ''Galactica'', insinuating that those who stayed behind did not suffer like those on New Caprica did, and that the crew of ''Galactica'' took too long to organize a rescue. Admiral Adama, upon learning of this from [[Karl Agathon]], confronts Thrace and Tigh on their behavior. He challenges them to shoot him, as their constant complaining is tantamount to pulling the trigger. When neither do, Adama throws Thrace off her chair and demands that both she and Tigh shape up and move on with their lives. Spurred by Adama's words, Thrace cuts her hair and returns to duty. Later, in uniform, she visits Kacey and her mother on the [[Camp Oil Slick|converted hangar deck]] ([[Torn]]).

==Notes==
*On the Sci-Fi Channel's preview for season 2.5 (US), Katee Sackoff is quoted as saying that Starbuck is "the best Viper pilot...EVER."
*[[Wikipedia:Thrace|Thrace]] was a region in south-eastern Europe that was heavily influenced by the ancient Greeks and was eventually conquered by [[Wikipedia:Philip_II_of_Macedonia|Phillip II of Macedonia]]. Thracians were considered by most to be the most ferocious fighters and were often highly paid mercenaries for Greek kings.
*After auditioning for the role of [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]], [[Grace Park]] was asked by director [[Michael Rymer]] to audition for the role of Starbuck, and she was actually one of two finalists up for the role (the other being Katee Sackhoff, who got the part). Ultimately Park was cast as [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon "Boomer" Valerri]].
*In a TV Guide [http://online.tvguide.com/newsearch/detail.aspx?id=4371595&sourcetype=S&progseriesparentid=4371595&tvobjectid=191395&keyword=Battlestar+Galactica&referrer=search1 photo shoot] at the BSG studios, Katee Sackhoff explained that the [[tattoo]] that Starbuck bears on her left arm is a wing and a circle and has half of the constellation of Capricorn (a reference to [[Caprica]] obviously) and a small symbol of the planet as well. It matches a mirror image of the tattoo on Anders' right arm. When the two of them hold each other with their respective arms crossing, the 2 tattoos come together to form an image of a single ring with 2 wings that is supposed to represent their union. According to Sackhoff, Kara and Anders had the tattoos done around the time of their wedding.
*The license plate on Thrace's truck on Caprica is "FB 42 E3" ([[Valley of Darkness]]).
*{{spoiltext|At a SF convention in Indianapolis in November 2006, actress Sackhoff noted that her filming for season 3, as well as her contract, ended with episode 16, "[[Maelstrom]]," strongly suggesting that Starbuck may be the central character that may be killed during season 3 as noted by producers Moore and Eick. However, [http://community.livejournal.com/battlestar_blog/360997.html this blog entry] relates that Sackhoff appeared to deny this later.}}

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Torn

2006-11-10T01:07:48Z

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| title= Torn
| image=Season 3 - Promo - Epi 5 - StarbuckTighAdama.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 6
| guests=
| writer= [[Anne Cofell Saunders]]
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| director= [[Jean de Segonzac]]
| production= 306
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| US airdate= 2006-11-03
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| population= 41,422
| prev= [[Collaborators]]
| next= [[A Measure of Salvation]]
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== Overview ==
:''[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] create divisions between those who suffered under the Cylon occupation of [[New Caprica]] and those who stayed with the fleet. Meanwhile, [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] tries to prove his worth to the Cylons.''

== Summary ==

=== On [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] ===
* ''Galactica'''s air group runs exercises with the Viper pilots who settled on New Caprica and are thus out of shape. Starbuck deliberately breaks formation and collides with [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]]'s Viper, forcing an end to the exercise and causing now-Major [[Lee Adama]] - who has resumed his post as [[CAG]] - to remove her from flight duty.
* [[Gaeta|Felix Gaeta]] meets with [[Laura Roslin]] and [[William Adama]] to discuss Baltar-related matters. During the year before the Cylon Occupation of New Caprica, Baltar was obsessed with analyzing the data from Kobol to find the path to Earth. Based on passages in the [[Pythia|Scrolls of Pythia]], Baltar identified a nebula and two associated pulsars he believed to be a landmark on the road to Earth.
* Upon Thrace's return to her bunk, she is met by Kacey and her mother, whom she dismisses, telling the Kacey's mother not visit her again.
* [[Karl Agathon]] congratulates and encourages Apollo for losing all the excess fat he had gained during the New Caprica era. Apollo asks Helo to ensure to remind him to never let that happen again.
* In the pilots' rec room, [[Brendan Constanza|Hot Dog]] christens Lieutenant [[Sharon Agathon]] with the callsign "[[Athena]]" after she points out that, despite appearances, she is not "[[Boomer]]".
* Thrace and Tigh begin to sow dissent between the survivors of New Caprica and the crew that stayed behind on ''Galactica''.
* Adama confronts Thrace and Tigh on their behavior. He challenges them to shoot him, as their constant complaining is tantamount to pulling the trigger. When neither do, Adama demands they shape up and move on with their lives.
* Spurred by Adama's words, Thrace cuts her hair and appears to return to duty. Later, in uniform, she visits [[Kacey]] and her mother.
* Meanwhile, Tigh returns to his room and begins drinking to excess, finishing off one bottle and starting another.
* In a Raptor, Athena and [[Racetrack]] jump into range of the [[Lion's Head Nebula]], and are excited to find what the Scrolls described (an eye that blinks red and blue). They quickly realize, however, that they have jumped right next to the dying basestar.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===
*[[Gaius Baltar]], aboard the Cylon basestar, is having another hallucination. On a sunny beach, Gaius praises Six for returning to him in his time of need, and states that he enjoys having conversations with her. Six implores him to learn anything and everything about the Cylons, as he will need the information in the days ahead. Six also tells him that the Cylons use forms of projection to see the world around them, and when asked what she is, Six tells Baltar that she is an angel of God.
*Having been allowed to stay on the [[basestar]], [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Three]] talk with Baltar later on, inquiring about the location of [[Earth]]. Baltar initially denies having any knowledge of where Earth is, but then reveals that he does have clues as to where its probable location is. He then finds out that the [[Cylons]] intend to find Earth so they can use it as their new home.
*Baltar is apprehensive about helping the Cylons, and Caprica-Six tells him that the Cylons are also leery as to whether his intentions are true or not. Caprica-Six leads Baltar through the ship, telling him that she uses a projection of a forest to navigate the ship. In his mind, Baltar realizes that his form of projection is similar to what the Cylons are using, causing him to question whether he is human or a Cylon.
*Caprica-Six informs Baltar that his rescue of [[Hera]] and his assistance in finding Earth has made him a valuable asset, and has gone a long way in impressing the Cylons. Baltar asks why there are only seven models on the ship, and inquires about the remaining five models. Caprica-Six tells him that they don't talk about it. He asks whether they would recognize one of the others, but their conversation is interrupted by Three before she can answer.
* Three informs Caprica-Six that there is a situation, and a [[Five]] states that the basestar that went to check the pulsar has not reported back. The group head to a control center, where Baltar finds out that the missing basestar has been infected by a disease. The Cylons speculate and that any Cylon that dies and uploads to a [[Resurrection Ship]] might spread the virus even further. As a precautionary measure the Resurrection Ship is kept out of range. On the urge of his internal Six, Baltar offers to board the infected basestar and collect scientific information.
* Before he leaves on his mission, Baltar encounters the [[Hybrid|Cylon Hybrid]] that controls the functions of the basestar. The hybrid is hooked into the ship's systems and continually vocalizes her seemingly non-sensical thoughts. Caprica-Six tells Baltar that it is thought by most of the Cylon models that the Hybrid has gone insane from being connected to the [[basestar]] and that her words hold no meaning, however the [[Leoben]] model considers the hybrid's words as coming from God.
* The Cylons provide Baltar with a Raptor to board the baseship, and when he arrives, he finds numerous Cylons, either dead or dying. He collects blood samples and takes pictures of the area to bring back for analysis, and also finds a large manmade object in the hold of the ship. He then finds a dying [[Six]] model (curiously with black hair), who informs him that the device the Cylons captured, a probe left by the [[13th Colony]]. Even though Baltar offers to bring her help, she tries to attack him, and he strangles her to death.
* Upon his return to the basestar, he denies finding anything that could have caused the outbreak of the virus, but Caprica-Six notices the probe object in Baltar's picture, but doesn't let on to anyone else what she has discovered.

== Questions ==
* Would it be possible for the Colonials to salvage the derelict basestar for their own purposes?
* What has happened to the remaining five Cylon models? Are they so secretive that none of the other seven variants have any knowledge of them? Did the Cylons permanently box the other models because they were dissenters to the cause of the Cylon race?
* If Baltar was able to extrapolate the location of the Lion's Head Nebula just from reading the sacred scriptures, can we not assume someone else could have conducted the same research at an earlier date?
* What is Caprica-Six going to do now that she realizes Baltar may be withholding critically sensitive information?
* Cally and Galen Tyrol are both seen working on the hangar deck. Who is taking care of their baby? Has a system been put in place to take care of crewmembers' children?
* Is Athena infected with the Cylon virus? {{spoilli|([[A Measure of Salvation|Answer]])}}
* As the probe is supposed to come from the 13th tribe, and is affecting Cylons, does that mean that Cylons have been exisiting in times of the 13th tribe? Or is just by accident that is viral for Cylons?
** What is the "genetic pool" that the human form Cylons all come from, and has it existed for longer than the Cylons themselves?
** Could the people on Earth be aware ''currently'' that the Cylons are after them, and have sent the probe to hinder the Cylons' efforts?
* Is the virus biological or technological in nature? The "inevitable once we took human form" and "genetic pool" lines indicate that the Cylons think it is biological. On the other hand, their speculation that it could survive through a download process implies that it could technological in nature (i.e. computer virus). Or is the virus both biological and technological, like the Cylons themselves?
* Why did then-President Baltar investigate clues to Earth's location, given that he advocated abandoning that very search in his election campaign?
* Is the Cylon model Eight we see on the basestar with Baltar Boomer? If yes, is her involvement with the Cylons on that basestar to find a map of Earth an indication that she has finally accepted her identity as a Cylon and disassociated herself from the humans?

== Analysis ==
*The crew-position shuffle continues from last episode, but some definite decisions have been made:
**Lee has been demoted back to Major, and has resumed his old position as CAG, with Kat and Hot Dog as senior pilots under him. Starbuck is as well, until Adama revokes her flight status for reckless behaviour.
**As mentioned, it seems Kat has been demoted from CAG to leader of [[Blue Squadron]].
**As implied in "Collaborators", Helo keeps the XO slot aboard ''Galactica'' for now.
**Gaeta appears to have inherited Baltar's mantle as the scientific advisor (it is unclear whether he holds any additional positions), and is focusing his efforts on refining a course for Earth.
**Cally Tyrol is shown working the flight deck alongside her husband, showing that she is once again active in the Fleet.
*Following her actions during the Battle of New Caprica, Sharon Agathon seems to have garnered some degree of acceptance among the ''Galactica'' air group.
*"Athena" is the name of [[Athena (TOS)|Adama's daughter]] in the original series. This may be an allusion to the changing relationships on ''Galactica'': Sharon Agathon has replaced Kara Thrace as William Adama's surrogate daughter. (He tells Thrace, "You were like a daughter to me once. No more.") As Hot Dog states, Athena is also the name of a [[Athena, Lord of Kobol|Lord of Kobol]].
*The baseship hybrid appears to be viewed by the Cylons in the same way as the Centurions and Raiders. The Hybrid has no vote in the Cylon decision-making process, despite its ability to express its thoughts and feelings, after a fashion.
*The Cylons have a [[Raptor]] and [[flight suit]] at their disposal, acquired during the occupation of [[New Caprica]] or from undestroyed Colonial military assets on the [[Twelve Colonies]]. This raises the possibility that the Cylons may have other Colonial ships in their possession.

==Notes==
*According to an [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/4175/58/ interview] with executive producer [[David Eick]], episodes 5 and 6 are a two-part story in which ''Galactica'' discovers a dying Cylon Baseship, and deals with a plague that has befallen the Cylons. (Eick is counting "Occupation" and "Precipice" as one episode.)
*The phrase "end of line," uttered by the [[Hybrid|Cylon hybrid]] in this episode, is a possible reference to the film ''[[w:Tron (film)|Tron]]'', in which the [[w:Master Control Program (Tron)|Master Control Program]] finishes its sentences with "end of line."
**This may also be a play on the episode title. ''Torn'' is an anagram of ''Tron''.
**[[w:End_of_Line|End of line]] is also a computing term, referring to the character used to signal a new line in text-based protocols.
* In the PC game ''[[w:Homeworld|Homeworld]]'', [[Wikipedia:Karan S'jet|Karan S'jet]], a young female neuroscientist, integrates her physical body into the mothership to serve as its living CPU. This is similar to the function of the Cylon Hybrid. (Although S'jet chose to do so voluntarily, and it is unlikely, from comments by [[Three]], that the Hybrids were given a choice) . The backstory to the game's sequel ''[[w:Homeworld 2|Homeworld 2]]'' descibes S'jet as undergoing a similar metaphysical experience while integrated with the mothership as Caprica-Six describes of the Hybrid.
* The idea of using living creatures as central processing units of large ships has been visited before in both literary and filmed science fiction. For example the pilots in ''[[w:Dune|Dune]]'' serve a similar function while under the influence of the Spice. In Norman Spinrad's novel "The Void Captain's Tale", some women become pilots because they believe to achieve a better insight into god's creation, thus having a spiritual experience. This is similar to Leoben's beliefs about the Hybrids. Recent television series with living CPUs include ''[[w:Babylon 5|Babylon 5]]'', with human telepaths in the [[w:Shadow (Babylon 5)|Shadow]] vessels, and ''[[w:Farscape|Farscape's]]'' Pilot, though in the latter case, Pilot is more like a conduit between the crew and a sentient ship in its own right.
** The idea of a living being serving as CPU for a space vessel is explored, in detail and from the ship's perspective, in Anne McCaffrey's [[w:The Ship Who Sang|Ship Who...]] series of novels and short stories. The first of these was published in 1961 and way well be the inspiration for the other examples cited above.
*According to the podcast for the episode, the Hybrid's visual look was inspired by the precogs in ''[[w:Minority Report|Minority Report]]''.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''On Galactica's flight deck'':
:'''Chief Tyrol''': (checking Starbuck's Viper) Captain, how did you land this thing?
:'''Kara Thrace''': Pointed it towards the deck and stopped when I got here.
:'''Hot Dog''': Bone-dry, she says. Landed the bird without a drop of fuel.
:'''Lee Adama''': (walking up to Kara) If you want to die, I will open up an airlock for you, but you are not taking one of my Vipers with you.
:'''Kara Thrace''': The bird's on the deck. ''I'm'' on the deck. I don't know what you're bitching about.
:'''Lee Adama''': I don't give a frak what you do, Starbuck. You're done flying.

*''In the rec room on Galactica'':
:'''Helo''': (referring to the rescue on New Caprica) Hey, we all made sacrifices.
:'''Saul Tigh''': Is that so?
:'''Helo''': Yes, that's right.
:'''Saul Tigh''': Well, while you were pinning wings on your Cylon girlfriend, our people were strapping homemade bombs to their chest, doing what they could to take the bastards out. So forgive me if I don't get all misty over your sacrifices.

*''Adama's feelings towards, and regarding, Starbuck'':
:'''Adama''': You were like a daughter to me once - no more. You're malcontent and a cancer, and I won't have you on my ship. So you have a choice - you can figure out how to become a human being again, and an officer; or you can find another place to live, off of this ship. You're dismissed.

*''The Hybrid's objection to leaving the infected Basestar behind'':
:'''Hybrid''': Mists of dreams drip along the nascent echo, and love no more. End of line.

*''When discovering the dying basestar'':
:'''Athena''': When God's anger awakens even the mighty shall fall.

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==
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Torn

2006-11-08T17:17:10Z

Khaosworks: /* Analysis */ Sharon as surrogate daughter?

{{Episode Data
| title= Torn
| image=Season 3 - Promo - Epi 5 - StarbuckTighAdama.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 6
| guests=
| writer= [[Anne Cofell Saunders]]
| story=
| director= [[Jean de Segonzac]]
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| rating=
| US airdate= 2006-11-03
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population= 41,422
| prev= [[Collaborators]]
| next= [[A Measure of Salvation]]
}}
== Overview ==
:''Part one of two. [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] create divisions between those who suffered under the Cylon occupation of [[New Caprica]] and those who stayed with the fleet. Meanwhile, [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] tries to prove his worth to the Cylons. <ref name="TVGuide">{{cite_web|url=http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?episodeid=6006095&tvobjectid=191395&more=ucepisodelist|title=Episode Detail for Torn at www.tvguide.com}}</ref>

== Summary ==

=== On [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] ===
* ''Galactica'''s air group runs war game exercises among the viper pilots. Captain Thrace breaks formation during the exercise and collides with another pilot, forcing an end to the war games, and causing Apollo to remove her from flight duty.
* [[Gaeta|Felix Gaeta]] meets with [[Laura Roslin]], [[William Adama]], and [[Saul Tigh]] to discuss matters Baltar related. During the year before the Cylon Occupation of New Caprica, Baltar was obsessed with analyzing the data from Kobol to find the path to Earth. Based on passages in the [[Pythia|Scrolls of Pythia]], Baltar identified a nebula he believed to be a landmark on the road to Earth.
* Upon Thrace's return to her bunk, she is met by Kacey and her mother, whom she dismisses, telling the Kacey's mother not to come again.
* In the pilots' mess, Lt. [[Sharon Agathon]] is given the callsign "[[Athena]]." Thrace and Tigh begin to sow dissent between the survivors of New Caprica and the crew that stayed behind on ''Galactica''
* Adama confronts Thrace and Tigh on their behavior. He challenges them to shoot him, as their constant complaining is tantamount to pulling the trigger. When neither do, Adama demands they shape up and move on with their lives.
* Spurred by Adama's words, Thrace cuts her hair and appears to return to duty. Later, in uniform, she visits [[Kacey]] and her mother.
* Meanwhile, Tigh returns to his room and begins drinking to excess, finishing off one bottle and starting another.
* In a Raptor, Athena and Racetrack jump into range of the Lion Head's Nebula, and are excited to find what the Scrolls described. They quickly realize, however, that they have jumped right next to the dying Basestar.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestar]] ===
*[[Gaius Baltar]], onboard the Cylon basestar, is having another hallucination. On a sunny beach, Gaius praises Six for returning to him in his time of need, and states that he enjoys having conversations with her. Six implores him to learn anything and everything about the Cylons, as he will need the information in the days ahead. Six also tells him that the Cylons use forms of projection to see the world around them, and when asked what she is, Six tells Baltar that she is an angel of God.
*Having been allowed to stay on the [[Basestar]], [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Three]] talk with Baltar later on, inquiring about the location of [[Earth]]. Gaius initially denies having any knowledge of where Earth is, but then reveals that he does have clues as to where its probable location is. He then finds out that the [[Cylons]] intend to find Earth so they can use it as their new home.
*Baltar is apprehensive about helping the Cylons, and Caprica-Six tells him that the Cylons are also leery as to whether his intentions are true or not. Caprica-Six leads Baltar through the ship, telling him that she uses a projection of a forest to navigate the ship. In his mind, Baltar realizes that his form of projection is similar to what the Cylons are using, causing him to question whether he is human or a Cylon.
*Caprica-Six informs Gaius that his rescue of [[Hera]] and his assistance in finding Earth has made him a valuable asset, and has gone a long way in impressing the Cylons. Baltar asks why there are only 7 models on the ship, and inquires about the remaining 5 models. Caprica-Six informs him that they don't talk about it. He asks whether they would recognize one of the others, but their conversation is interrupted by Three before she can answer.
* Three informs Caprica-Six that there is a situation, and a [[Five]] states that the basestar that went to check the pulsar has not responded back. The group head to a control center, where Baltar finds out that the missing basestar has been infected by a disease, and that any Cylon that dies and uploads to a [[Resurrection Ship]] will spread the virus even further. On the urge of his internal Six, Baltar offers to board the infected basestar and collect scientific information.
* Before he leaves on his mission, Baltar encounters the Cylon hybrid that controls the functions of the basestar. The hybrid is hooked into the systems on the ship, and continually vocalizes her seemingly non-sensical thoughts. Caprica-Six informs Gaius that it is thought by most of the Cylon models that the hybrid has gone insane from being connected to the [[Basestar]] and that her words hold no meaning, however the [[Leoben]] model takes the hybrid's words as coming from God.
* The Cylons provide Baltar with a Raptor to board the baseship, and when he arrives, he finds numerous Cylons, either dead or dying. He collects blood samples and takes pictures of the area to bring back for analysis, and also finds a large manmade object in the hold of the ship. He then finds a dying [[Six]] model (curiously with black hair), who informs him that the device the Cylons captured, a probe left by the [[13th Colony]], infected all of them, and wants to die so she can be released from her pain. Even though Gaius offers to bring her help, she tries to attack him, and Gaius strangles her to death.
* Upon his return to the Basestar, Gaius denies finding anything that could have caused the outbreak of the virus, but Caprica-Six notices the probe object in Baltar's picture, but doesn't let on to anyone else what she has discovered.

== Questions ==
* Would it be possible for the Colonials to salvage the derelict basestar for their own purposes?
* What has happened to the remaining five Cylon models? Are they so secretive that none of the other 7 variants have any knowledge of them? Did the Cylons permanently box the other models because they were dissenters to the cause of the Cylon race?
* What is Caprica-Six going to do now that she realizes Baltar may be withholding critically sensitive information?
* Cally and Chief Tyrol as seen both working on the deck. Who is taking care of their baby? Has a system been put in place to take care of crewmembers' babies?
* Is Athena infected with the Cylon virus?
* As the probe is supposed to come from the 13th Tribe, and is affecting Cylons, does that mean that Cylons have been exisiting in times of the 13th Tribe? (or is just by accident that is viral for Cylons?)
** What is the "genetic pool" that the human form Cylons all come from, and has it existed for longer than the Cylons themselves?
* Is the virus biological or technological in nature? The "inevitable once we took human form" and "genetic pool" lines indicate that the Cylons think it is biological. On the other hand, their belief that it could survive through a download process implies that it is technological in nature (i.e. computer virus). This would seem to be a contradiction.

== Analysis ==
*The crew-position shuffle continues from last episode, but some definite decisions have been made:
**Lee has been demoted back to Major, and has resumed the CAG slot, with Kat and Hot Dog as senior pilots under him. Kara is as well, until Lee revokes her flight status for reckless behaviour.
**As mentioned, it seems Kat has been demoted from CAG to leader of Blue Group (Although "Blue Group" may only exist for training purposes and not be a permanent viper squadron).
**As implied in "Collaborators", Helo has resumed the XO slot aboard ''Galactica''.
**Gaeta appears to have inherited Baltar's mantle as the scientific advisor (it is unclear whether he holds any additional positions), and is focusing his efforts on refining a course for Earth.
**Cally is shown working the flight deck alongside her husband, showing that she is once again active in the Fleet.
*Following her actions during the Battle of New Caprica, Sharon seems to have garnered some degree of acceptance among the ''Galactica'' air group.
*Sharon Agathon is given the callsign "Athena" in this episode. As [[Hot Dog]] states, it is the name of a [[Athena, Lord of Kobol|Lord of Kobol]]. It is also the name of [[Athena (TOS)|Adama's daughter]] in the original series, and may be a metafictional allusion to the now-close relationship between Sharon and William Adama.
*The Baseship hybrid appears to be viewed by the Cylons in the same way as the Centurions and Raiders. The hybrid has no vote in the Cylon decision-making process, despite its ability to express its thoughts and feelings, after a fashion.
*The Cylons apparently have a [[Raptor]] at their disposal, no doubt they would have aquired it during the Occupation of [[New Caprica]], but It also makes you wonder what other Colonial Ships they have.

== Notes ==

*According to an [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/4175/58/ interview] with executive producer [[David Eick]], episodes 5 and 6 are a two-part story in which ''Galactica'' discovers a dying Cylon Baseship, and deals with a plague that has befallen the Cylons. (Eick is counting "Occupation" and "Precipice" as one episode.)
*The phrase "End of line.", uttered by the Cylon hybrid in this episode, is a possible reference to the film "Tron", in which the Master Control Program finishes it's sentences with the phrase, "End of line."

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

''Adama's feelings towards, and regarding, Starbuck'':

'''Adama''': You were like a daughter to me once - no more. You're malcontent and a cancer, and I won't have you on my ship. So you have a choice - you can figure out how to become a human being again, and an officer; or you can find another place to live, off of this ship. You're dismissed.

''The Hybrid's objecttion to leaving the infected Basestar behind'':

'''Hybrid''': Mists of dreams drip along the nascent echo, and love no more. End of line.

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==
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Athena (TOS)

2006-11-08T17:14:19Z

Khaosworks: /* Notes */

{{Character Data
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|colony= [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)#Caprica|Caprica]]
|birthname= Athena
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|siblings= [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]] and [[Zak (TOS)|Zak]] (KIA)
|children=
|marital status= Single
|role= [[Core Command]] Operative, [[Battlestar (TOS)|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)|Galactica]]''
|rank= 2nd Lieutenant
|actor= [[Maren Jensen]]
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== Biography ==

'''Athena''' is the daughter of [[Adama (TOS)|Adama]] and sister of [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]]. She serves primarily as an officer in [[Core Command]], manning a [[scanner]].

=== The Peace Conference ===

Athena flies Adama in a [[shuttle]] from ''[[Atlantia]]'' to [[Galactica (TOS)|''Galactica'']]. She informs her father that ''Galactica'' is on alert, as Apollo's patrol has run into trouble. After the [[Battle of Cimtar|ambush]], ''Galactica'' returns to collect her fighters. Athena rushes into [[Starbuck (TOS)|Starbuck's]] arms. Starbuck is upset that the [[Viper (TOS)|Vipers]] were abandoned by ''Galactica'' during the battle, until Athena tells him that [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)|the colonies]] had been destroyed. Starbuck finds Athena later to apologize for how he acted in the landing bay, and points out that they may not have much time to live. Athena says that she cannot commit to a relationship in the midst of all of the chaos. Athena speaks with Adama in his quarters. He tells her about the conditions on [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)#Caprica|Caprica]], and it is apparent that Adama is humbled by the responsibility that has fallen to him.

=== After the Cylon Attack ===

While on duty in Core Command, Athena checks on Starbuck's status on the flight deck. She catches him in the arms of [[Cassiopeia]] inside one of the [[Launch tubes]]. Infuriated, she activates a steam purge of the tube, burning Starbuck (and causing great discomfort for him during his mission through the [[Straits of Madagon]]).

Athena heads down to the surface of [[Carillon]] to the chancery to spend some time with Starbuck, only to find Cassiopeia there with the same thing in mind. The rivalry between the two has officially begun.

Athena is on duty in Core Command when the [[Cylons (TOS)|Cylon]] [[Battle of Carillon|attack]] begins. She is surprised to see how quickly the Vipers are able to launch, considering that all the pilots were supposed to be at Sire [[Uri]]'s award ceremony ([[Saga of a Star World]]).

[[Image:AthenaLostPlanet1.jpg|thumb|left|Athena in a Viper simulator ([[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I]]).]]

Athena prepares the meal at which Apollo announces his intention to be [[seal]]ed to [[Serina]]. Athena gazes longingly at Starbuck, who quickly excuses himself in order to begin preparations for Apollo's bachelor party. Athena is one of the shuttle pilots selected for Viper training when the other [[Warrior]]s develop the mysterious illness. During a training simulation she successfully destroys a [[Raider (TOS)|Raider]], as well as Starbuck. Athena is selected to be Starbuck's wingman during the mission to destroy the Cylon outpost, and he asks that she not shoot him this time. Athena and the other new pilots succeed in their mission, destroying the outpost and securing the medical information needed to combat the illness ([[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I]]).

Athena joins the group that goes down to [[Kobol]]. She is overjoyed when Starbuck returns unharmed from his Cylon captivity, and runs into his arms. When the Raiders begin their attack, Athena rushes to a Viper to go fight them. The inexperienced fighters begin to fight the Cylons, and are soon joined by the recently recovered veteran pilots. They successfully fight off the Cylon attack ([[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II]]).

When Starbuck is awarded a dinner reservation aboard the [[Rising Star (TOS)|''Rising Star'']], Athena is disappointed that she cannot join him because she is on duty in Core Command. Adama and [[Tigh (TOS)|Colonel Tigh]] agree to cover her shift, and she happily leaves to join Starbuck. Meanwhile Starbuck has already made other plans, and has begun a date with Cassiopeia. Athena arrives while Cassiopeia is out of the room, and Starbuck manages to secure another private room in order to juggle the two dates. Starbuck seems to pull it off successfully, leaving each of them one of his insignia as a token of his affection. His plan falls apart when the ladies run into each other as they leave, each holding the same token.

[[Image:AthenaGreetingsFromEarth.jpg|thumb|right|Athena teaches a classroom of students ([[Greetings from Earth]]).]]

Athena puts her rivalry with Cassiopeia aside when she calls her up to Core Command. The signals they are receiving from the Recon Viper lead them to believe that Starbuck may be dead. Cassiopeia recognizes the signals as an Aerian Merchant Code. This is enough for Adama to call off the order to destroy the Viper, allowing Apollo and Boomer to get to the bottom of the mystery ([[The Long Patrol]]).

Athena is playing a game with [[Boxey (TOS)|Boxey]] in the [[rejuvenation center]] when the suicide attack Raiders explode against ''Galactica'' cutting the area off from the rest of the ship. Athena and Boxey help tend to the wounded, and are eventually rescued thanks to the efforts of Apollo, Starbuck, and [[Muffit]] ([[Fire in Space]]).

Athena is in charge of a classroom of students when the [[Lunar Avion|Terran Shuttle]] is brought aboard. Students in the class include Boxey and [[Loma]] ([[Greetings from Earth]]).

== Notes ==

*The name [[Wikipedia:Athena|Athena]] was based on a goddess from [[Greek Gods|Greek mythology]] whom was identified by the Roman [[Wikipedia:Minerva|Minerva]], also known as [[Wikipedia:Athene|Athene]].

*In [[The Long Patrol]], a [[:Image:PersonnelStatus.jpg|computer readout]] lists Athena as a lieutenant. Though this could be correct, however it did not specify if her ranking was either that of a warrior or of a naval nature. While this may well have been a slight on the writer's parts, it is considered to be her rank -- in the Colonial Armed Forces. If we are correct in the equivalancy of the ranks, the lieutenant ranking would very well be consistent with her naval ranking of ensign as well.

*The character of Athena was, at least originally, equal in part to [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]] and [[Starbuck (TOS)|Starbuck]], however it was clearly apparent that the actress hired (Ms. Jensen) was incapable of acting to the extent of the male leads, [[Richard Hatch]] and [[Dirk Benedict]]. It should be noted though that her performances did improve over time, due to the presence of an acting coach on-set, however her character was scaled back until she disappeared entirely after her piteous "teaching stint" in "[[Greetings from Earth]]."

*The character of Athena is one of a handful of Original Series characters who do not have a parallel character in the [[Re-imagined Series]]. In the Re-imagined continuity, Commander [[William Adama|Adama]]'s only children are [[Lee Adama|Lee]] and [[Zak Adama]]. However, the character of [[Sharon Agathon]], a [[Cylon agent]] who has defected to the Colonial Fleet and has grown close to William Adama is given the callsign "Athena" ([[Torn]]).

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Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance

2006-10-29T09:40:33Z

Khaosworks: /* Notes */ See talk under "Chinese Characters".

:''This page covers the webisode series titled "The Resistance," which follows the exploits of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. For other meanings, see "[[Resistance]]".''

{{Episode Data
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| title=Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance
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| special= Y
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| guests=
| writer=[[Bradley Thompson]] [[David Weddle]]
| story=
| director=[[Wayne Rose]]
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| US airdate= 2006-09-05 through 2006-10-05
| UK airdate= Not yet available in the UK<ref name="SkyOneWebisodes">"Unfortunately it seems like these webisodes are exclusives to scifi.com and Sky don't have any publishing rights to them just yet. We are working to aquire these sorts of extras but it's a work in progress..." - Sky One forum Administrator 09-07-2006</ref>
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| prev= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]
| next= [[Occupation]]
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'''''Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance''''' is an online series that aims to fill in the gaps between seasons [[Season 2 (2005-06)|two]] and [[Season 3 (2006-07)|three]] of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. The webisodes can be viewed through the official [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/webisodes/ web portal] at [http://www.scifi.com/ SciFi.com]. An official [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/webisodes/faq.html FAQ] deals with availability and technical issues.

The webisode series was written by ''Battlestar Galactica'' veterans [[Bradley Thompson]] and [[David Weddle]], and directed by [[Wayne Rose]]. The entire series is 25 minutes long in total, divided into 10 episodes.

== Summary ==
===Episode 1===
* Running time: ~3:19
* Starts on the 67th day after [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]

Tyrol and Tigh organize the budding resistance movement on Cylon-occupied New Caprica, but they find recruiting new soldiers is becoming dangerous and difficult. The Cylons have instituted a curfew. Violators go to jail, which is the first thing the Cylons built on [[New Caprica]]. New Capricans are shot on the spot if weapons are found in their tents. A stash of weapons belonging to [[Longo]] was confiscated by the Cylons, but the resistance was able to retrieve some of them which were hidden underneath his latrine. The Cylons are also setting up a [[New Caprica Police|human police force]] to take over for the [[Cylon Centurion]]s, who are doing most of the police work.

===Episode 2===
*Running time: ~1:54
[[Duck]] has refused to work with the resistance, on the grounds of his relationship and intended child with [[Nora]]. Tyrol is highly displeased at this, particularly his reasons, as they parallel Tyrol's own situation; Jammer suggests respecting Duck's decision.

A ritual for protection of the crops from blight is said in the temple. As Sister [[Tivenan]] leaves, [[Jean Barolay]] abruptly shifts the conversation to the movement of the weapons stash into the [[temple]]; [[Jammer]] strongly objects, but he is overruled by Tigh.

===Episode 3===
*Running time: ~2:42
In the evening, Nora prays to Aphrodite to bless she and Duck with a child. He tells her his decision about joining the resistance. She is pleased that he refused Tyrol.

During the night, Tigh, Tyrol, Jammer, and Barolay move the weapons into the temple disguising them.

The next morning, Nora wakes Duck saying he will be late to work. She tries to convince him to go to temple after work with her. He refuses, saying he talks to the gods in his own way.

===Episode 4===
*Running time: ~1:57
[[Cally]] and [[Nora]] visit the temple. Nora is holding Cally's baby while Cally is performing a ceremony. At that moment [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]] can be heard outside, and a [[Number Five]] announces that they will enter the temple. Several men try to block them, but the Cylons force their way in and gunfire can be seen and heard. While trying to run away Cally falls to the ground protecting her baby, but Nora is shot and killed when she tries to retrieve her bag.

===Episode 5===
*Running time: ~1:56
Tyrol, Cally and Jammer return Nora's bag to Duck, and inform him about the death of Nora. Duck is physically sickened by the news. He becomes angry and demands to know if there were weapons in the temple. Tyrol tries to avoid the question, but Duck doesn't relent until Tyrol admits the truth. At that point, Duck orders them out of his tent.

===Episode 6===
*Running time: ~1:37
Three days after the attack on the temple, Tigh, Barolay, and Jammer discuss the results of the attack, which has brought about positive effects for the resistance. The general population has started to side with the resistance and 1,000 people protested outside [[Colonial One]] over the attack on the temple. Since the attack, recruitment has become easier with 150 Colonials signing up. Tigh thinks that this was a good deal because the loss of a few weapons was worth the propaganda victory. However, Jammer is upset that the loss of 10 lives was not worth it. Tigh comes down hard on Jammer, stating that people die in war, nice people, and the resistance has no room for crybabies.

===Episode 7===
*Running time: ~1:58

[[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] and [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] discuss the capture of [[Jammer]] by the Cylons. Tyrol insists that Jammer won't reveal the work of the resistance. Jammer is imprisoned in the [[New Caprica Detention Center]] and is visited by a [[Number Five]], who frees him of his bonds and says he wants to talk to him about what happened in the temple.

===Episode 8===
*Running time: ~3:56
[[Number Five]] proposes to [[Jammer]] that the massacre at the [[temple]] may have actually been planned by the [[Resistance]]. Number Five reminds Jammer of the good that has been accomplished by working together in peace. He offers Jammer the chance to stop further bloodshed by informing the [[Cylons]] of potentially life-threatening actions by the Resistance. Jammer balks at the idea of becoming a [[New Caprica Police|traitor]] to the Resistance, but accepts a key card which will let him enter the Cylon detention center to report the Resistance's secret plans if he chooses to become an informant.

===Episode 9===
*Running time: ~3:07
[[James Lyman|Jammer]] is released from the [[New Caprica Detention Center]] and is met outside by [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]. Tyrol notes that he was informed of Jammer's arrest by [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]], and then asks him what he told the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. Jammer nervously explains that the Toasters questioned him about the [[temple]] massacre. Jammer reassures Tyrol that he did not tell the Cylons anything, but Tyrol appears doubtful.

Meanwhile, [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] returns to his tent and begins to clean up the mess from his earlier outburst. He bursts into tears while gathering up a broken picture frame and an icon of the [[Lords of Kobol]].

===Episode 10===
*Running time: ~4:34
After the [[dedication ceremony]] for [[Galen Tyrol|Galen]] and [[Cally Tyrol]]'s [[Nicholas Tyrol|son]], [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] approaches Tyrol in the [[temple]]. Duck informs Tyrol that he has joined the [[New Caprica Police]], in hopes of finding out who tipped the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] off and is responsible for [[Nora]]'s death.

Afterwards, Tyrol meets in the backroom with [[Saul Tigh]], [[James Lyman|Jammer]] and [[Jean Barolay]] to discuss their next move against the Cylons. Tigh suggests hiding explosives in the grain silo, which Jammer points out is across from the hospital. When Tigh shows a lack of concern for the patients' safety, Jammer excuses himself "to patrol the perimeter."

Outside, Duck is smoking and examining his new NCP patch. He puts it away when Jammer comes out, and the two friends share a smoke together. Jammer notices that Duck said he was going to quit, to which Duck says "What's the point?" and leaves. Once alone, Jammer sits quietly, and reaches into his pocket to find the Cylon device [[Number Five]] gave him. 

== Questions ==

== Analysis ==
*Jammer is unsurprised to hear that [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] have been speaking. Apparently they have resumed some sort of contact since the occupation. How does this sit with other members of the resistance?

== Notes ==
*The original title of the webisode series was "Crossroads".
[[Image:Chinese_characters.png|thumb|300px|The Chinese Characters behind Tyrol in Webisode 7]]
*Three [[Wikipedia:Chinese character|Chinese characters]] can be seen on a crate behind Tyrol at around 2:10 (in the countdown-style timer used by the SciFi.com Video Player) in the seventh episode. They are "盐", "油" and "姜", meaning "salt", "oil" and "ginger" (all cooking ingredients), respectively.
*Currently, for legal reasons, attempting to view the webisodes from outside of the USA will present you with a frozen video player stating either of two messages:
** "Your video will begin playing after a brief advertisement." (in the case of the webisode splash page currently on scifi.com)
** "We're sorry, but the clip selected isn't available from your location. Please select another clip." (if the user opens the video on Sci Fi's Pulse website)
:Users outside of America will have to wait until a DVD release, television broadcast, or some other means becomes available to view them.
* Originally it was stated that new webisodes would be available midnight on Tuesday and Thursday. This no longer appears to be the case, but rather new webisodes appearing at noon [[Wikipedia:North American Eastern Time Zone|EDT]] on the appropriate day.
* In the sixth episode, Tigh states that 20 billion humans were "burned" by the Cylons. Also, he uses a new slang term for Centurions, "chrome jobs." This is likely inspired by the [[Caprica Resistance]]'s calling [[Cylon agent|cylon agents]] "skin jobs."
*[[Number Five]] uses Jammer's real name, [[James Lyman]].
*Episode Nine was made available Monday, October 2nd, 2006 at noon.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

'''''[[#Episode 6|Episode Six]]'''''

:'''[[Jammer]]''': What about the ten innocent people? Why don't you tell [[Duck]] what a bargain you got for Nora's life? 
:'''[[Saul Tigh]]''': You got that ass-backwards, sonny. We didn't shoot those people, the chrome jobs did... 
:'''Jammer''': Because we hid weapons there! 
:'''Tigh''': Hey! We're not playing pattycake here. These bastards burned up [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|twenty billion]] of us, you gonna say that's our fault, too? Instead of bawlin' like a little girl, you should focus on getting some payback. 
:'''Jammer''': Is that all this is about to you? Blood for blood? 
:'''Tigh''': We're at war! War is messy! People get killed- good people, nice people. Get that through your head, or get out! We don't need any cry-babies in this outfit.

== Official Statements ==

When ''[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive03#Webisode series|Battlestar Wiki asked Bradley Thompson]]'' about the webisode series, he said:

:"It's true that David Weddle and I wrote the webisodes. Ron Moore and David Eick assigned them to us during the production of Exodus. The ten short segments combine to tell one story, which takes place during the Cylon Occupation that ended Season 2. The webisodes plant seeds that come to fruition in Season 3. They were all directed by Wayne Rose, the veteran director who's been doing 2nd Unit and 1stAD work for the series. The original title of the story was "Crossroads." The running lengths will vary with what's necessary to tell each segment of the story. The first cut I saw of all ten ran about 25 minutes. The run plan we were told was that they'd put up one a week as a countdown to the season premiere -- but SciFi may have other ideas on that by now."

"Nora is played by Emily Holmes. Longo is spelled the way you have it." -- contents of September 5, 2006 message from [[Bradley Thompson]]

"When they initially came to us we could have done just vignettes, and in fact the the staff thought of that approach to the webisodes. But when Brad and I got the assignment we thought, 'Let's just tell one story.' Network wanted it to play into the third season, so that gave us the inspiration to chronicle events that would pay off in the third season... [I remember Ron Moore saying] 'SciFi's ready to do it; they're ready to pay for them. You guys are doing it. Unless you don't want to. Have a story the day after tomorrow.' In a day or two Brad and I came up with the concept and a day after that we pitched them to SciFi. We wrote them in four days or something like that, and shot them the next week... The massacre in the temple has temp tracks we were going to loop and fix and make a lot better, but because we were forbidden to work on them anymore they went out as is. Of course people complained when they watched them and it just made us cringe because we very much wanted to correct that." -- David Weddle in a October 2, 2006 interview with [http://www.chud.com CHUD.com].

"We said that we wanted a story that goes about a half hour -- we wanted ten three minute things. Then it was like where does it naturally feel like we're going to get something exciting you're going to want to see more of in future webisode... They told us was that we could have anybody that was in Canada. All of our Canadian actors... Duck and Jammer perform actions in those episodes. Ron, when he wrote those, hinted at what put the characters in place to do those things and we thought, 'There's the story.'" -- Bradley Thompson in a October 2, 2006 interview with [http://www.chud.com CHUD.com].

"We came up with the idea of telling one story over the couse of ten webisodes that will fill in the motivations of some peripheral characters who nevertheless play pivotal roles in the opening episodes of Season 3. We wanted to tell the story of Duck and Jammer, who had become close friends while on New Caprica, and show how a single tragic event -- the temple massacre -- propels them on divergent paths toward actions that will affect the outcome of the battle to liberate the human race." -- David Weddle in a October 5, 2006 interview with [http://www.syfyportal.com SyFy Portal].

=== Contract Disputes and Production Delays===

According to Bradley Thompson, the webisodes were originally meant to be aired once a week, for the 10 weeks preceding the Season 3 premiere on October 6th. This would have resulted in the webisodes premiering in mid-August. However, their release was delayed due to a labor dispute between the Writer's Guild of America and NBC/Universal regarding extra pay for the writers doing the webisodes.

In August 2006, news began to leak out that the release of the webisodes would be delayed, though they were essentially finished at the time. NBC-Universal did not want to pay the writing team for webisodes content, holding that they were not actually covered under Guild contract, and were technically just promotional material. The ''Battlestar Galactica'' writing team embraced the new story opportunity, but other NBC-Universal series such as ''The Office'' felt that webisodes were nothing but extra filler they were being forced to crank out. According to Thompson, the writing team was given extra pay for vaguely described "extra work", but no long-term resolution was ever reached. The WGA is concerned about the long-term implications of online content: writers are not specifically compensated for their work on them, and NBC/Uni might argue that they have no claim on redistribution profits if they try to classify it as "promotional" material. In any event, by August 2006 the negotiations between the WGA and NBC/Uni broke down, and the WGA ordered all series producing webisodes (such as ''Battlestar Galactica'' and ''The Office'') to refuse to physically deliver the webisodes to NBC/Uni for distribution online. NBC/Universal, who produces both shows, has filed a complaint with National Labor Relations Board, claiming that this writing is included in the current WGA contract and urging the NLRB to make the series release the material.

However, several weeks later the finished webisodes were handed over to NBC/Uni. The first of ten webisodes is due to be released on Tuesday, September 5, 2006, and subsequent installments are scheduled for every Tuesday and Thursday until the Season 3 premiere on October 6, 2006.

== Cast ==
These are listed in the order they appeared during the 10 episodes.

{| class="messagebox" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Cast Member'''
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Character'''
! class="infoboxheader" colspan="10" | '''Episode(s)'''
|-
| [[Nicki Clyne]]
| [[Cally Tyrol]]
| 1
|
|
| 4
| 5
|
|
|
|
| 10
|-
| [[Aaron Douglas]]
| [[Galen Tyrol]]
| 1
| 2
| 3
|
| 5
|
| 7
|
| 9
| 10
|-
| [[Christian Tessier]]
| [[Tucker Clellan|Tucker "Duck" Clellan]]
| 1
| 2
| 3
|
| 5
|
|
|
| 9
| 10
|-
| [[Dominic Zamprogna]]
| [[James Lyman|Jammer]]
| 1
| 2
| 3
|
| 5
| 6
| 7
| 8
| 9
| 10
|-
| [[Michael Hogan]]
| [[Saul Tigh]]
| 1
| 2
| 3
|
|
| 6
| 7
|
|
| 10
|-
| [[imdb:nm0391820|Emily Holmes]]
| [[Nora]]
| 1
|
| 3
| 4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
| [[Alisen Down]]
| [[Jean Barolay]]
|
| 2
| 3
|
|
| 6
|
|
|
| 10
|-
| [[imdb:nm0601003|Carmen Moore]]
| [[Tivenan|Sister Tivenan]]
|
| 2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 10
|-
| [[Matthew Bennett]]
| [[Number Five]]
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 7
| 8
|
|
|}

== Crew ==
In his September 6th 2006 [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2006/09/#a001251 official blog post], [[Ronald D. Moore]] recognized all the crew involved in the production of the webisodes.

Director: [[Wayne Rose]].
Writers: [[Bradley Thompson]] & [[David Weddle]].
Executive Producers: [[Ron D. Moore]] and [[David Eick]].
Producer: [[Harvey Frand]].
Co-Producers: Bradley Thompson & David Weddle.
Producer, Post Production work: Paul Leonard.
Director of Photography: John Drake.
Editors: Michael O'Halloran, Tim Kinzy, Ian Kezbaum, and Harry Jierjian.
Music: [[Bear McCreary]].

Visual Effects Supervisor: [[Gary Hutzel]].
Unit Production Manager: Boris Ivanov.
First Assistant Directors: Shirley-Anne Parsons and Alexia Droz.
Second Assistant Director: Mindy Heslin.
Set Costumes Supervisor: Keith Parent.
Make-up Artist: Ankara Eden.
Second Assistant, Make-up: Liz Raman Nair.
First Assistant, Hair Stylist: Jamie McKay.
Prop Assistants: Glenn Hilworth, Gerry Thompson, and Robert Stecky.
Sound Mixer: Mark Noda.

Boom Operators: Keith Henderson and Tony Wyman.
First Assistant Camera: Shannon Abbott.
Digital Imaging Technician: Tracy Sim.
Gaffer: Guy Patterson.
Best Boy, Electric: Paul Bougie.
Genny Operator: Murray Chysyk.
Lamp Operator: Blair McDonald.
Key Grip: Mark Leiterman.
Best Boy Grips: Dave McKinlay and Ron Baran.
Script Supervisor: Carol Green-Lundy.
Medic and Craft Services: Tim Gunderson.

''Battlestar Galactica'' Main Title Theme by [[Richard Gibbs]].

Scoring and Orchestral Engineer: Steve Kaplan.
Music Editor: Michael Baber.
Special Effects Coordinators: Al Collis and Kevin Andruschak.

Studio Executive: Richard Rothstein.
Studio Executive in Charge of Production: Todd Sharp.
Network Executives: Mark Stern and Erik Storey.

====Dedication====

Ron D. Moore added a special dedication to the credits:

<blockquote>''All of the above people worked above and beyond the call of duty to deliver these Webisodes to you and they did it while also working to deliver the regular episodes of the third season. They did it without any template of how these things were to be done and they did it in defiance of a limited budget and a extraordinarily truncated shooting schedule.''</blockquote>

<blockquote>''I'm proud of them and proud of their work. I hope you'll agree.''</blockquote>

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==
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Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance

2006-10-29T09:39:40Z

Khaosworks: /* Notes */ See talk under "Chinese Characters".

:''This page covers the webisode series titled "The Resistance," which follows the exploits of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. For other meanings, see "[[Resistance]]".''

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'''''Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance''''' is an online series that aims to fill in the gaps between seasons [[Season 2 (2005-06)|two]] and [[Season 3 (2006-07)|three]] of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. The webisodes can be viewed through the official [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/webisodes/ web portal] at [http://www.scifi.com/ SciFi.com]. An official [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/webisodes/faq.html FAQ] deals with availability and technical issues.

The webisode series was written by ''Battlestar Galactica'' veterans [[Bradley Thompson]] and [[David Weddle]], and directed by [[Wayne Rose]]. The entire series is 25 minutes long in total, divided into 10 episodes.

== Summary ==
===Episode 1===
* Running time: ~3:19
* Starts on the 67th day after [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]

Tyrol and Tigh organize the budding resistance movement on Cylon-occupied New Caprica, but they find recruiting new soldiers is becoming dangerous and difficult. The Cylons have instituted a curfew. Violators go to jail, which is the first thing the Cylons built on [[New Caprica]]. New Capricans are shot on the spot if weapons are found in their tents. A stash of weapons belonging to [[Longo]] was confiscated by the Cylons, but the resistance was able to retrieve some of them which were hidden underneath his latrine. The Cylons are also setting up a [[New Caprica Police|human police force]] to take over for the [[Cylon Centurion]]s, who are doing most of the police work.

===Episode 2===
*Running time: ~1:54
[[Duck]] has refused to work with the resistance, on the grounds of his relationship and intended child with [[Nora]]. Tyrol is highly displeased at this, particularly his reasons, as they parallel Tyrol's own situation; Jammer suggests respecting Duck's decision.

A ritual for protection of the crops from blight is said in the temple. As Sister [[Tivenan]] leaves, [[Jean Barolay]] abruptly shifts the conversation to the movement of the weapons stash into the [[temple]]; [[Jammer]] strongly objects, but he is overruled by Tigh.

===Episode 3===
*Running time: ~2:42
In the evening, Nora prays to Aphrodite to bless she and Duck with a child. He tells her his decision about joining the resistance. She is pleased that he refused Tyrol.

During the night, Tigh, Tyrol, Jammer, and Barolay move the weapons into the temple disguising them.

The next morning, Nora wakes Duck saying he will be late to work. She tries to convince him to go to temple after work with her. He refuses, saying he talks to the gods in his own way.

===Episode 4===
*Running time: ~1:57
[[Cally]] and [[Nora]] visit the temple. Nora is holding Cally's baby while Cally is performing a ceremony. At that moment [[Cylon Centurion|Cylon Centurions]] can be heard outside, and a [[Number Five]] announces that they will enter the temple. Several men try to block them, but the Cylons force their way in and gunfire can be seen and heard. While trying to run away Cally falls to the ground protecting her baby, but Nora is shot and killed when she tries to retrieve her bag.

===Episode 5===
*Running time: ~1:56
Tyrol, Cally and Jammer return Nora's bag to Duck, and inform him about the death of Nora. Duck is physically sickened by the news. He becomes angry and demands to know if there were weapons in the temple. Tyrol tries to avoid the question, but Duck doesn't relent until Tyrol admits the truth. At that point, Duck orders them out of his tent.

===Episode 6===
*Running time: ~1:37
Three days after the attack on the temple, Tigh, Barolay, and Jammer discuss the results of the attack, which has brought about positive effects for the resistance. The general population has started to side with the resistance and 1,000 people protested outside [[Colonial One]] over the attack on the temple. Since the attack, recruitment has become easier with 150 Colonials signing up. Tigh thinks that this was a good deal because the loss of a few weapons was worth the propaganda victory. However, Jammer is upset that the loss of 10 lives was not worth it. Tigh comes down hard on Jammer, stating that people die in war, nice people, and the resistance has no room for crybabies.

===Episode 7===
*Running time: ~1:58

[[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] and [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] discuss the capture of [[Jammer]] by the Cylons. Tyrol insists that Jammer won't reveal the work of the resistance. Jammer is imprisoned in the [[New Caprica Detention Center]] and is visited by a [[Number Five]], who frees him of his bonds and says he wants to talk to him about what happened in the temple.

===Episode 8===
*Running time: ~3:56
[[Number Five]] proposes to [[Jammer]] that the massacre at the [[temple]] may have actually been planned by the [[Resistance]]. Number Five reminds Jammer of the good that has been accomplished by working together in peace. He offers Jammer the chance to stop further bloodshed by informing the [[Cylons]] of potentially life-threatening actions by the Resistance. Jammer balks at the idea of becoming a [[New Caprica Police|traitor]] to the Resistance, but accepts a key card which will let him enter the Cylon detention center to report the Resistance's secret plans if he chooses to become an informant.

===Episode 9===
*Running time: ~3:07
[[James Lyman|Jammer]] is released from the [[New Caprica Detention Center]] and is met outside by [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]. Tyrol notes that he was informed of Jammer's arrest by [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]], and then asks him what he told the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. Jammer nervously explains that the Toasters questioned him about the [[temple]] massacre. Jammer reassures Tyrol that he did not tell the Cylons anything, but Tyrol appears doubtful.

Meanwhile, [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] returns to his tent and begins to clean up the mess from his earlier outburst. He bursts into tears while gathering up a broken picture frame and an icon of the [[Lords of Kobol]].

===Episode 10===
*Running time: ~4:34
After the [[dedication ceremony]] for [[Galen Tyrol|Galen]] and [[Cally Tyrol]]'s [[Nicholas Tyrol|son]], [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] approaches Tyrol in the [[temple]]. Duck informs Tyrol that he has joined the [[New Caprica Police]], in hopes of finding out who tipped the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] off and is responsible for [[Nora]]'s death.

Afterwards, Tyrol meets in the backroom with [[Saul Tigh]], [[James Lyman|Jammer]] and [[Jean Barolay]] to discuss their next move against the Cylons. Tigh suggests hiding explosives in the grain silo, which Jammer points out is across from the hospital. When Tigh shows a lack of concern for the patients' safety, Jammer excuses himself "to patrol the perimeter."

Outside, Duck is smoking and examining his new NCP patch. He puts it away when Jammer comes out, and the two friends share a smoke together. Jammer notices that Duck said he was going to quit, to which Duck says "What's the point?" and leaves. Once alone, Jammer sits quietly, and reaches into his pocket to find the Cylon device [[Number Five]] gave him. 

== Questions ==

== Analysis ==
*Jammer is unsurprised to hear that [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] have been speaking. Apparently they have resumed some sort of contact since the occupation. How does this sit with other members of the resistance?

== Notes ==
*The original title of the webisode series was "Crossroads".
[[Image:Chinese_characters.png|thumb|300px|The Chinese Characters behind Tyrol in Webisode 7]]
*Three [[Wikipedia:Chinese character|Chinese characters]] can be seen on a crate behind Tyrol at around 2:10 (in the countdown-style timer used by the SciFi.com Video Player) in the seventh episode. They are "盐","油" and "姜", meaning "salt", "oil" and "ginger" (all cooking ingredients), respectively.
*Currently, for legal reasons, attempting to view the webisodes from outside of the USA will present you with a frozen video player stating either of two messages:
** "Your video will begin playing after a brief advertisement." (in the case of the webisode splash page currently on scifi.com)
** "We're sorry, but the clip selected isn't available from your location. Please select another clip." (if the user opens the video on Sci Fi's Pulse website)
:Users outside of America will have to wait until a DVD release, television broadcast, or some other means becomes available to view them.
* Originally it was stated that new webisodes would be available midnight on Tuesday and Thursday. This no longer appears to be the case, but rather new webisodes appearing at noon [[Wikipedia:North American Eastern Time Zone|EDT]] on the appropriate day.
* In the sixth episode, Tigh states that 20 billion humans were "burned" by the Cylons. Also, he uses a new slang term for Centurions, "chrome jobs." This is likely inspired by the [[Caprica Resistance]]'s calling [[Cylon agent|cylon agents]] "skin jobs."
*[[Number Five]] uses Jammer's real name, [[James Lyman]].
*Episode Nine was made available Monday, October 2nd, 2006 at noon.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

'''''[[#Episode 6|Episode Six]]'''''

:'''[[Jammer]]''': What about the ten innocent people? Why don't you tell [[Duck]] what a bargain you got for Nora's life? 
:'''[[Saul Tigh]]''': You got that ass-backwards, sonny. We didn't shoot those people, the chrome jobs did... 
:'''Jammer''': Because we hid weapons there! 
:'''Tigh''': Hey! We're not playing pattycake here. These bastards burned up [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|twenty billion]] of us, you gonna say that's our fault, too? Instead of bawlin' like a little girl, you should focus on getting some payback. 
:'''Jammer''': Is that all this is about to you? Blood for blood? 
:'''Tigh''': We're at war! War is messy! People get killed- good people, nice people. Get that through your head, or get out! We don't need any cry-babies in this outfit.

== Official Statements ==

When ''[[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques/Archive03#Webisode series|Battlestar Wiki asked Bradley Thompson]]'' about the webisode series, he said:

:"It's true that David Weddle and I wrote the webisodes. Ron Moore and David Eick assigned them to us during the production of Exodus. The ten short segments combine to tell one story, which takes place during the Cylon Occupation that ended Season 2. The webisodes plant seeds that come to fruition in Season 3. They were all directed by Wayne Rose, the veteran director who's been doing 2nd Unit and 1stAD work for the series. The original title of the story was "Crossroads." The running lengths will vary with what's necessary to tell each segment of the story. The first cut I saw of all ten ran about 25 minutes. The run plan we were told was that they'd put up one a week as a countdown to the season premiere -- but SciFi may have other ideas on that by now."

"Nora is played by Emily Holmes. Longo is spelled the way you have it." -- contents of September 5, 2006 message from [[Bradley Thompson]]

"When they initially came to us we could have done just vignettes, and in fact the the staff thought of that approach to the webisodes. But when Brad and I got the assignment we thought, 'Let's just tell one story.' Network wanted it to play into the third season, so that gave us the inspiration to chronicle events that would pay off in the third season... [I remember Ron Moore saying] 'SciFi's ready to do it; they're ready to pay for them. You guys are doing it. Unless you don't want to. Have a story the day after tomorrow.' In a day or two Brad and I came up with the concept and a day after that we pitched them to SciFi. We wrote them in four days or something like that, and shot them the next week... The massacre in the temple has temp tracks we were going to loop and fix and make a lot better, but because we were forbidden to work on them anymore they went out as is. Of course people complained when they watched them and it just made us cringe because we very much wanted to correct that." -- David Weddle in a October 2, 2006 interview with [http://www.chud.com CHUD.com].

"We said that we wanted a story that goes about a half hour -- we wanted ten three minute things. Then it was like where does it naturally feel like we're going to get something exciting you're going to want to see more of in future webisode... They told us was that we could have anybody that was in Canada. All of our Canadian actors... Duck and Jammer perform actions in those episodes. Ron, when he wrote those, hinted at what put the characters in place to do those things and we thought, 'There's the story.'" -- Bradley Thompson in a October 2, 2006 interview with [http://www.chud.com CHUD.com].

"We came up with the idea of telling one story over the couse of ten webisodes that will fill in the motivations of some peripheral characters who nevertheless play pivotal roles in the opening episodes of Season 3. We wanted to tell the story of Duck and Jammer, who had become close friends while on New Caprica, and show how a single tragic event -- the temple massacre -- propels them on divergent paths toward actions that will affect the outcome of the battle to liberate the human race." -- David Weddle in a October 5, 2006 interview with [http://www.syfyportal.com SyFy Portal].

=== Contract Disputes and Production Delays===

According to Bradley Thompson, the webisodes were originally meant to be aired once a week, for the 10 weeks preceding the Season 3 premiere on October 6th. This would have resulted in the webisodes premiering in mid-August. However, their release was delayed due to a labor dispute between the Writer's Guild of America and NBC/Universal regarding extra pay for the writers doing the webisodes.

In August 2006, news began to leak out that the release of the webisodes would be delayed, though they were essentially finished at the time. NBC-Universal did not want to pay the writing team for webisodes content, holding that they were not actually covered under Guild contract, and were technically just promotional material. The ''Battlestar Galactica'' writing team embraced the new story opportunity, but other NBC-Universal series such as ''The Office'' felt that webisodes were nothing but extra filler they were being forced to crank out. According to Thompson, the writing team was given extra pay for vaguely described "extra work", but no long-term resolution was ever reached. The WGA is concerned about the long-term implications of online content: writers are not specifically compensated for their work on them, and NBC/Uni might argue that they have no claim on redistribution profits if they try to classify it as "promotional" material. In any event, by August 2006 the negotiations between the WGA and NBC/Uni broke down, and the WGA ordered all series producing webisodes (such as ''Battlestar Galactica'' and ''The Office'') to refuse to physically deliver the webisodes to NBC/Uni for distribution online. NBC/Universal, who produces both shows, has filed a complaint with National Labor Relations Board, claiming that this writing is included in the current WGA contract and urging the NLRB to make the series release the material.

However, several weeks later the finished webisodes were handed over to NBC/Uni. The first of ten webisodes is due to be released on Tuesday, September 5, 2006, and subsequent installments are scheduled for every Tuesday and Thursday until the Season 3 premiere on October 6, 2006.

== Cast ==
These are listed in the order they appeared during the 10 episodes.

{| class="messagebox" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Cast Member'''
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Character'''
! class="infoboxheader" colspan="10" | '''Episode(s)'''
|-
| [[Nicki Clyne]]
| [[Cally Tyrol]]
| 1
|
|
| 4
| 5
|
|
|
|
| 10
|-
| [[Aaron Douglas]]
| [[Galen Tyrol]]
| 1
| 2
| 3
|
| 5
|
| 7
|
| 9
| 10
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| [[Christian Tessier]]
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== Crew ==
In his September 6th 2006 [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2006/09/#a001251 official blog post], [[Ronald D. Moore]] recognized all the crew involved in the production of the webisodes.

Director: [[Wayne Rose]].
Writers: [[Bradley Thompson]] & [[David Weddle]].
Executive Producers: [[Ron D. Moore]] and [[David Eick]].
Producer: [[Harvey Frand]].
Co-Producers: Bradley Thompson & David Weddle.
Producer, Post Production work: Paul Leonard.
Director of Photography: John Drake.
Editors: Michael O'Halloran, Tim Kinzy, Ian Kezbaum, and Harry Jierjian.
Music: [[Bear McCreary]].

Visual Effects Supervisor: [[Gary Hutzel]].
Unit Production Manager: Boris Ivanov.
First Assistant Directors: Shirley-Anne Parsons and Alexia Droz.
Second Assistant Director: Mindy Heslin.
Set Costumes Supervisor: Keith Parent.
Make-up Artist: Ankara Eden.
Second Assistant, Make-up: Liz Raman Nair.
First Assistant, Hair Stylist: Jamie McKay.
Prop Assistants: Glenn Hilworth, Gerry Thompson, and Robert Stecky.
Sound Mixer: Mark Noda.

Boom Operators: Keith Henderson and Tony Wyman.
First Assistant Camera: Shannon Abbott.
Digital Imaging Technician: Tracy Sim.
Gaffer: Guy Patterson.
Best Boy, Electric: Paul Bougie.
Genny Operator: Murray Chysyk.
Lamp Operator: Blair McDonald.
Key Grip: Mark Leiterman.
Best Boy Grips: Dave McKinlay and Ron Baran.
Script Supervisor: Carol Green-Lundy.
Medic and Craft Services: Tim Gunderson.

''Battlestar Galactica'' Main Title Theme by [[Richard Gibbs]].

Scoring and Orchestral Engineer: Steve Kaplan.
Music Editor: Michael Baber.
Special Effects Coordinators: Al Collis and Kevin Andruschak.

Studio Executive: Richard Rothstein.
Studio Executive in Charge of Production: Todd Sharp.
Network Executives: Mark Stern and Erik Storey.

====Dedication====

Ron D. Moore added a special dedication to the credits:

<blockquote>''All of the above people worked above and beyond the call of duty to deliver these Webisodes to you and they did it while also working to deliver the regular episodes of the third season. They did it without any template of how these things were to be done and they did it in defiance of a limited budget and a extraordinarily truncated shooting schedule.''</blockquote>

<blockquote>''I'm proud of them and proud of their work. I hope you'll agree.''</blockquote>

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==
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[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Behind the Scenes]]
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[[Category:Episodes written by Bradley Thompson]]
[[Category:Episodes written by David Weddle]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Wayne Rose]]
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Talk:Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance/Archive 1

2006-10-29T09:37:42Z

Khaosworks: /* Chinese Characters */ Looks more like 油 to me.

== Webisode Anticipation ==
I think the Webisodes are a great idea that may expand the BSG Audience. Anyway, I can hope. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 22:07, 27 May 2006 (CDT)

I really, REALLY dont like the idea of this. 'Caprica' was bad enough (but i'll begrudgingly watch it anyway cause you kinda have to) but the idea of filler really, REALLY sucks - why oh why cant RDM and Eick just put the events of whats happened into one/two/three regular episodes rather than put these up? No doubt there'll be wonderful nuggegts of info put into these eps, and references made to them in normal eps that people wont get unless they watch these little 'things'. Ron - if you're reading this - you're getting WAY too ahead of yourself - keep to writing BSG itself first, no fancy pants crap, drop Caprica cause its a dumb idea and focus on what people want more of - BSG itself, not a spinoff, not webisodes - JUST BSG!!! </rant> Grr! --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 03:47, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
:Actually it might work really well, they did a similar thing with Richard E Grant voicing Doctor Who a few years back on the BBC website --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 06:38, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
: The BBC is also doing the ''Doctor Who Confidential'' series in tandem with the new ''Doctor Who'', as well as the mini ''Tardisodes'' that you can get from BBC's site. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:41, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
::I know the Tardisodes are available - but for those of us without broadband (i will be sans broadband for a long time in the next month or so), web episodes arent a good idea. There are going to be plenty of people that dont want to be forced into watching something online, and with the Tardisodes that the BBC put up, they're totally self contained AFAIK, with no references made to them from other episodes, and they're non-important in terms of the overall storyline of DW, as well as being able to be viewed on the Digibox (digital terrestrial DVB-T or Digital Satellite set top box) by pressing 'the big red button'. BSG on the other hand, they're talking about a major part of the backstory which is hardly what i'd call trivial! Are they going to air the episodes on telly for those countries outside the US or will they just assume everyone has fast broadband and dont watch telly? --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 13:07, 28 May 2006 (CDT)

:: This is the future of TV within 2-3 years most if not all tv shows will have some online content similar to the webisodes. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 12:14, 28 May 2006 (CDT)

:::I just cant see why its necessary to split up a show into loads of different segments, have some aired on telly, some on the net - it just makes everything that more annoying - why oh *why* can't TV execs just get the idea into their thick skulls that people are happy watching telly AS IT IS!!! --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 13:30, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

:::: My guess is that it is a business decision. You can show an advertiser exactly how many viewers. Also, you get more opportunities to advertise per viewer. Due to the web, DVR's, etc., I don't see the current TV business model surviving.--[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 13:46, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
== Unfinished Business ==
I have the feeling that the episode "Unfinished Business" will be a clip show of the webisodes, Just a guess. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 12:14, 28 May 2006 (CDT)

:No, they showed that it's different stuff: "Unfinished Business" deals with stuff *before* the Cylons came, the webisodes deal with stuff after that. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 20:52, 18 July 2006 (CDT)
::Great more BSG content :D!! --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 21:52, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

:I do hope that these get aired on telly, i really, really do :'( --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 13:29, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

:This is not a bad idea at all. It's like a side project. Something that more than likely will have no tie-in to the regular series. Otherwise, why not call them teasers instead of webisodes? It's not featuring any of the main cast as far as we have been told. All the more interesting. My only regret about it is it will be something only accessed on Galactica's SciFi site, and not available on iTunes.--[[User:AJFederation|AJFederation]] 01:41, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

==Add into Episode Guide template==

Right now, Season 2 ends and proceeds to Season 3 in the template at the bottom of the screen: where's the page where I can add this webisode series into the succession?: I think it should be put at the beginning of Season 3 (or at least, after LDYB II clicking "next" would lead here, not season 3 proper). --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 18:13, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

In addition, I think the format of this page should be that of any one episode in the episode guide; that is, there won't be separate subpages linked for each of the 10 webisodes: ***Bradley Thompson, who co-wrote these, said he considers it one story, just broken up into 10 chunks, which I think is just like how a normal episode is broken up by commercial breaks. This really isn't a separate series, so much as a "special episode". It's not a separate series, but part of the series between Seasons 2 and 3 (we asked Thompson how we should consider it with that; waiting on answer). --->Originally I had thought this would be a parent series page that had episodes linked from it, but based on Thompson's comments it makes more sense just to put it in an episode format. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 19:44, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

==September Debut==

An BSG article in the October issue of SciFi Magazine says the Webisodes will start in September. Whether the WGA actions will affect this or not is unknown. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:21, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:The WGA announcement was this Wednesday. I do know they were originally planned to be aired for 10 weeks (one each week) before the season premiere...in which case they would already have started two weeks ago. I think there was foot dragging where they hoped to ''vaguely'' "have them out in September or something" but that this broke down. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 20:24, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:: The mag probably went to print assuming that everything will be ok, but it's not?? No word from Bradley yet?--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:28, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Nothing. I'd make a big deal about it if there was. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 20:36, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
::::I was just hoping for tidbit of the webisodes by now to feed my raging beast ;-). Thanks for being on top of it--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:40, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
I'm confused about the last paragraph of the Contract Disputes... section. We say "several weeks" later from August, the tapes were handed over. (I assume that means at least 3 weeks.) The WGA/NBCU dispute became public on Aug. 12 and the NLRB greviance was filed on the 18th. It doesn't seem that three weeks have passed. Can that be clarified? Also, what changed or broke the stalemate? There has been nothing announced in Variety or elsewhere, at least in regard to The Office. How can the BSG producers turn over tapes without getting in trouble with the writers guild, of which Moore and Eick are presumably members. Can anyone explain?--[[User:Elach|Elach]] 13:42, 28 August 2006 (CDT)

== "Image" ==

When we do a picture for the Episode Data block and this is all done, we should take all 10 of the images and put them in a pattern so it would be a mossic image. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:39, 2 September 2006 (CDT)

:I like your idea, and I suggest 2 wide by 5 tall, as it must be either 1x10 or 2x5 (barring tomfoolery), and 5x2 would have unfortunate aspect ratio consequences. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 00:20, 3 September 2006 (CDT)

== Connectivity?!? ==

Is anyone else having problems watching the webisodes?
I've waited all this time for them to air and I can't watch a single one!

How shady is that?

Do Sci-Fi.com have availbility problems regarding this, and how hong is it going to take to fix?

Does anyone know if they are going to be released in any other format other than webisode? --Jetstorm316
:I just watched it not 20 minutes ago and it worked. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 05:32, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::You need the latest Flash player. You can get it from the Marrocmedia Website. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 08:42, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Any way to watch it if not from America? Wont let me watch here in the UK :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:21, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Tried several US proxies and it just wont load. can someone save it and upload to google video or youtube or summit? :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:40, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::This is bending the policy,but it is on you-tube (Watch this morning because it works better than the official site at lower speeds). Should be a link on skiffy board somewhere. Or gtalk or gmail me and I will find the link. gougef at gmail dot com. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:44, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::Well said, Frankie. No hosting or linking to "illegal" copies... but like he said there's youtube links at sciffy (even though the admins appear to be trying to delete them). And the "flash player" official version was choppy even with ultra-broadband. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:00, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::Thanks for your help anyway guys. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:13, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

Does any one have the link for the you tube version? My Flash player is upto date, but can't watch here in the UK........

Must be a Trans-Atlantic thing or something, but I hope they put it on 3.0 to compensate for people who are missing out.--Jetstorm316 19:12GMT 5 september 2006

EUREKA! Success at last! If you have a torrent client, go to this link,
<<removed link>>
Now, we can all watch it at our leasure --jetstorm316 19:34hrs GMT
:We don't host or link copies. Removed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:18, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:Please do not link to the webisodes or clips of BSG on this Wiki that are copyrighted. Thank you --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 13:21, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

And thats the thanks I get for helping us all out who have connectivity problems? You know what, F*** the lot of you! I won't visit this site again!

This is the last entry for Jetstorm316

Goodbye and good F***ing luck to you bunch of F***ing losers!
:Please do not feel offended by up removing the link you posted. As i mentioned on your talk page It was nice of you to think of others but we dont want to get into any copyright issues with the producers. I hope you re-think your decision about leaving as your other contributions in the talk pages have been great --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 13:49, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::what Mercifull said. Personally, it was hard to get use to posting here after being involve with other online forums and communities. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:59, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::It's easy for me 'cause on other forums I don't link to that kinda junk anyway. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:51, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

'''Obviously''' there is more than a little frustration over not being able to connect outside the US. I'm not sure about the UK and other countries, but I do know that Canada's Space Channel has bought the show to broadcast on pretty much the same dates as in the US. This makes the fact that we Canadians(and anyone else who is going to see the show boadcast legally on television on October outside the US) would really benefit from being able to access the webisodes...we will watch the premier on Space, just like everyone else, except we are forced to result to illegal means to see the webisodes. I know this is a novelty, and perhaps the websiode content won't greatly affect the regularly aired shows, but really, I truly feel that this is a bad mistake on SciFi's behalf...and maybe even on Canada's Space Channel's Behalf for not seeking to host the webisodes on their Canadian site. It'll be something that they can claim as "EXTRA SPECIAL" on the DVD releases perhaps..but I think that once that is done, it becomes "bonus material" for the DVD and no longer the exciting and unique experience of participating with everyone else, waiting expectantly for the next five minute morsel to whet our appetites for the coming season...instead we have to lurk around in the dark and worry that maybe YOUTUBE is going to cut us off. We are fans and we all want the same great experience.

Maybe this isn't the place to debate...but I think I'll be writing both SciFi and SPACE to see how they can make a better, more rounded fan experience for an evidently GLOBAL audience.
--[[User:Gallion|Gallion]] 07:31, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

:I am from the UK and sent an email to SciFi asking whether they will ever be available to those outside the US, they didn't even bother replying. --[[User:Warpfactor|Warpfactor]] 13:08, 29 September 2006 (CDT)

==Cast & Crew announced==
Now that Ron Moore has [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/ announced] the full cast and crew listing of the webisodes, it may be better to have a crew section and a cast section instead of listing the cast under each of the ten recaps. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 21:17, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
:Agree, but we should make when we saw each cast memeber. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:29, 6 September 2006 (CDT)

== Sister Tivenan ==
I'd imagine the pirestess I didn't recognize in webisode 2 was the Sister Tivenan in those credits by elimination. That does not leave me quite comfortable with claiming her as identified. I didn't find a Tivenan by search here, so I'd assume she's a new character. I solicit opinions. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 23:54, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
:She appears to be a completely new character.--[[User:Larocque6689|Larocque6689]] 06:58, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

== Doral/Number Five ==

It seems like such a trivial thing to bring up, but I notice that the Wiki credits (anticipating his future appearance) now refer to Matthew Bennett's role as [[Number Five]] even though Ron's blog specifically refers to his role as [[Doral]] and that he is referred to as a Doral model in several episodes (including "[[Litmus]]".) Rather than revert it back, I'll just note the change and leave it up here as something to resolve until he makes his webisode debut.--[[User:Larocque6689|Larocque6689]] 07:04, 7 September 2006 (CDT)
:There are many Fives but only one Aaron Doral, and there's no indication that it's him. RDM refers to models other than Sixes as "D'annas", "Dorals", "Sharons" etc. for simplicity's sake. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 07:58, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

==Episode 3?==

So, uh, where the heck's Episode 3? It's not up! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:11, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
:Whoops, never mind. Episode 3 went up at 12 ''PM'' eastern as opposed to 12 ''AM'' Eastern. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:13, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
::Yeah. :) I just finshed watching it. It was ok. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:15, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
:::My silly school blocks streaming video :( --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:16, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

==Official Sources==
Thinking about moving the contract dispute stuff down the page into an Official Sources section. I find it distracting where it is. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:51, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

==Webisodes links==

Is it okay to add links to the webisodes? I searched the source of the article but didn't see any. What about removing the comments of Jetstorm316 above, or for that matter how about all the comments that folks made without reading the webisodes FAQ which is linked to on all the webisode pages? [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 16:41, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
: What kind of links are we talking about here? Are we talking about the official Scifi.com links? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:05, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:: Yes, such as /battlestar/video/webisodes/01/ (with the scifi dot com added to the front of course). [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 17:35, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Done. thanks for noticing that frakup. Also, the removed contents of Jetstorm was link(s) to "unofficial" copies. Can't link directly to FAQ because it is java popup from SciFi.com. May post relevant part to official statements. Thanks again. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:00, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Swt, thanks and your welcome. The FAQ can be seen here http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/webisodes/faq.html I meant removing Jetstorms comments on this Talk page, maybe remove contents of the Connectivity?!? and replace it with the FAQ url? [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 18:50, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::I don't mind removing his comments, as long as we archive them. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:37, 14 September 2006 (CDT)

==Why one page?==
Why not have seperate pages for each webisode? Even the TVIV has seperate pages for each webisode. That's pretty embarrassing that the battlestarwiki has inferior coverage of something Battlestar related. --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 18:42, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
: Actually, Mateo, this is just one episode split into 10 morsels. My present feeling is that this'll be rolled into one feature on the Season 3 DVDs when they come out (or they'll also air it on Sci-Fi sometime in the future as one 30 minute special). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:34, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:: ''this is just one episode split into 10 morsels'' Says who? Scifi.com says otherwise. It describes them as 10 webisodes. --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 18:54, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Scifi.com also said Duck and Nora were married (when they weren't). The web staff of scifi isn't always on the same page as the writers/producers of the show. Regardless of what either of them think, though, we should probably do what makes best sense for the encyclopedia. I'm not sure if the the content of each "webisode" is enough to merit a whole "episode" article. I like the fact that this current format maintains the standard layout (summary, questions, analysis, notes) and grouping them together gives it enough meat to fill it out. It'd be a harder call if each of the webisodes had a title, but lacking that they fall neatly into the current format. I'm not dead set against separate articles (heck, we've got some really small ones), but unless this grows out of control it looks ok to me. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:04, 25 September 2006 (CDT)

== Cast and References ==
The references is a bit confusing. Cally [1][2] is for episode 1 and 4... Maybe it's different with Firefox, but right now I'm with IE. So, if we keep the references, we can create something like the wiki '''TvIV''' is using for the characters. Ex:

{| class="messagebox" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Cast Member'''
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Character'''
! class="infoboxheader" colspan="10" | '''Episode(s)'''
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| [[Nicki Clyne]]
| [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally]]
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| [[Aaron Douglas]]
| [[Galen Tyrol]]
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| [[Christian Tessier]]
| [[Tucker Clellan|Tucker "Duck" Clellan]]
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|}

I think that way we keep the references in the order they appeared and create a kind of Timeline for the entire Webisode. And no more confusion. What do you think? --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 14:17, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Agreed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:28, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Agreed. Good idea. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:48, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

== Jammer ==
In episode 7, before Number Five asks Jammer if he can refer to him as James or if he prefers Jammer, he refers to him as Mr..., I think he said Mr. Lynom. I listened to it a number of times and it's hard to make out but I am wondering if anybody else caught it. --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 10:44, 26 September 2006 (AST)
:See [[Talk:Jammer]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:29, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

== Number Five's comment in Episode 7 ==
I don't think that he asks Jammer "Can I call you James or Jim?" as was placed in the notes, I believe the correct dialog is "Can I call you James or do you prefer Jammer?" I want to change that on the article page but want verification first. --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 11:33, 26 September 2006 (AST)
:You are probably right. The audio, especially Doral, sucked on this episode. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:41, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
::He said "Jim" not "Jammer," I just listened to it a moment ago, I'll go confirm it. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:42, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Never mind, got it backwards, he definately said Jammer. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:43, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
::::No, Definitely, I listened to it again and he did for a certainty say Jammer not Jim. I am going to change it. --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 12:11, 26 September 2006 (AST)

== Episode 9 ==

Hello. I'm new here. I just added in a synopsis of the ninth webisode. Hopefully it's up to snuff. Any pointers on writing conventions here would be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 13:03, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

:You did a delightful job; that was some might fine prose. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 14:48, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
:: Hello Alpha! Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! Thank you for your fine contributions so far! I personally look forward to future contributions from you! In response to your request for pointers, check out Battlestar Wiki's [[BW:SC|Standards and Conventions]], as well as our [[BW:SP|Spoiler]] and [[BW:CJ|Citation]] policies. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:53, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
:It looks good to me as well. Thanks for your contribution. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:12, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

Okay - I'm new here, but I just listened to Episode 9 and it sounds like he says "a little bird told me" not "Boomer told me" (which makes more sense, since Boomer should still be on the Galactica). Can someone else confirm/deny this? [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:16, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:yeah - I just listened to it several times to make sure - he clearly (but quickly) says "little bird told me" - Not boomer. Changing the main page. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:21, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:: Well, I'll be. That's the second time I've misheard something in these webisodes. I listened to it several times before, and it always sounded like Boomer. And everyone else I talked to heard Boomer. But I'll be damned if he's not saying "little bird". Dang, I really loved the implications of Boomer telling him. Which could definitely happen, as she's on New Caprica (Sharon's on Galactica). Even if she wasn't working with The Resistance, it made sense to me that she might contact the Chief to tell him his friend had been arrested. But alas, that plot twist is no more. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 11:28, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:: I get Sharon and Boomer mixed up all the time - oh, well. It was hard to tell what he said exactly at first, but since it's three syllables and consists of mostly hard consonants and short vowels (whereas Boomer is two syllables and has a long vowel sound and a soft consonat sound), I got curious and listened to it several times. He says it so quickly it's somewhat muffled, but it's clearly "little bird" once you figure out what he's saying.[[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:56, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::No, no, no. I've listened again and again and heard nothing but "Boomer". It's one word and clearly starts with a B, clearly followed by an "ooh", clearly followed by a "mer". I've tried to hear it as "rumor" or "little bird" and failed. And I believe she informed Tyrol about the release, the arrest would have been public knowledge. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:55, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::: none - please listen again - the syllable count and consanant sounds do not fit Boomer. It seems some fans are too willing to hear what they want to hear. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:58, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::(This should have been hear) I posted a question at [[BW:OC]] just to make it 100% sure. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:34, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::Can we just leave off who told him until we hear [[BW:OC|some word]]? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:00, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::: Good idea - my wife insists he's saying "ol' grover told me". I have no idea now. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 12:02, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::: I listened a couple more times and it's still "Boomer". I could almost believe it was "bird" (no "little", just "bird") except that there's an M in it. There really is. Leaving off until we hear from Ngarenn does indeed seem sensible, Steelviper. That's why I removed that part when I edited it. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 12:06, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::: I'm pretty sure I heard Boomer, as well. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:17, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::::: I'm so sure I head "Boomer" that I have difficulty assuming good faith here. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 13:34, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::Agree. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:37, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::Now, now. As certain as I am that it's "Boomer", I'm sure Rabidwolfe's edits were in good faith. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 13:59, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::The [http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2191836&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD transcripts] posted at Sciffy began as "rumor" then shifted towards "Boomer". "Boomer" is what I heard initially. Really, this is an example that could be easily cleared up by Mr. Thompson. Worst case (if he doesn't respond) we could do the audio analysis ala "Narcho". If it's "rumor", or "a little bird", or any other generic external source then it's not of much signifance. As mentioned in the OC question, it's only noteworthy if it is in fact "Boomer". --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:11, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::::::Those transcripts are done by fans, unfortunately. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:43, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::::Well, right. As an RDM podcast transcriber, I recognize the fan transcripts for what they are, and realize that they are subject to error. I was just harnessing the "extra ears" to get a feel for what others heard. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:52, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::::::::I was just pointing out how nice it would be if the transcripts were official. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:16, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::::::::OK, now I'm extremely confused. I listened like a half dozen times when RapidWolfe first brought this up, and at the time, I definitely heard "little bird." He said it quickly, kinda slurred, but I swear Tyrol said it. Now I read the whole big discussion here and try listening again. I can't make heads or tails of it, because now I can't hear anything but Boomer. Apparently I'll hear whatever I'm told to. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 15:30, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::::::: I'm sorry - I was sure it was little bird. I promise if it is Boomer, I'll eat crow or whatever. FWIW, I just had three random friends who don't watch BSG listen to it, and the three answers they told me were: "the colonel", "rumor" and "colonel." I'm now as confused as anyone else. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 15:57, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

===Spectrogram===
If someone can get me a WAV or AIFF of the audio in question, I can analyze it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:40, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:I have a sample. Working on it now. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:14, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::Okay. Let's do a quick run-through. A narrow transcription of "Boomer" reads {{IPA|pumɹ̣}}, "Rumor" reads {{IPA|ɹumɹ̣}}, and "A little bird" reads {{IPA|elɪɾḷpɹ̣d}}. "A little bird" in very fast speech would probably be realized as "Lil' bird", {{IPA|lɪlpɹ̣d}}, or maybe just "Bird", {{IPA|pɹ̣d}}. What are the salient differences here?
::*"Boomer" is distinguished from "Rumor" by a bilabial stop {{IPA|p}} vs. a retroflex approximant {{IPA|ɹ}}. The {{IPA|p}} is clearly audible to me in the recording, but unfortunately there's too much white noise to make it out in the spectrogram. However, we can ascertain whether or not {{IPA|ɹ}} is present, as that would drag down the second and third formants of the following vowel.
::*"Boomer" is quite clearly distinguishable from "Bird". "Boomer" has two vowels, high back rounded {{IPA|u}} and r-colored {{IPA|ɹ̣}}, interrupted by a bilabial nasal {{IPA|m}}. "Bird" has no nasal and a single vowel, {{IPA|ɹ̣}}. Thus, if we see a nasal and a vowel that is not r-colored, we can safely rule out "Bird".
::So, what we actually see looks to me like:
::[[Image:Boomer-spectrogram.png]]
::There is clearly a nasal breaking the vowel formants into two regions. Thus, we can eliminate "(a little) bird" as a possibility. The first has a fairly low first and second formant, as we would expect for {{IPA|u}}, and its third formant, while barely visible, does not appear to be lowered be a preceding {{IPA|ɹ}}. Additionally, the bilabial plosive {{IPA|p}} is clearly audible in the recording. In the second vowel, the third formant can be seen to lower, which is suggestive of r-coloring. Thus, "Boomer" seems to be the only possibility. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:48, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:::Here's the clip, if anyone wants to {{audio|boomertoldme.mp3|listen}} --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:06, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::: well, that does sound like Boomer. I'll eat crow. (but please don't say I was acting in bad faith). [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 18:16, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::: What I fail to understand is that Webisodes have logically build upon each other and suddenly they dropped "Boomer" out of the middle of nowhere. Confused me???. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:20, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::: I wasn't saying you were acting in bad faith; I just meant that I found it hard to believe. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 21:33, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::::The most damning evidence in my mind was that I clearly heard the "buh" sound. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:49, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

I've listened to it and he undoubtedly says "Laura told me" --[[jxh487]]
I take it back, it undoubtedly is "Boomer told me", just said rather lazily with improper enunciation [[User:Jxh487|Jxh487]] 11:59, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

== Jammer's Role ==

I just need to say that it's good to see Jammer playing such a large role in the webisodes, and he's become one of my more favored characters due to what we've seen of him in the webisodes. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:10, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

: I would have to agree. I've mainly noticed Jammer because of the Cylon speculation page, but he was barely in the series; The Resistance has given him some great development. I expect he'll develop similarly to Cally in Season Two: a recognizable tertiary character suddenly gets major exposure and is catapulted to secondary status. Jammer is awesome, and I can't wait to see where he goes in Season Three (even though the trailers have already given me far too good an idea).

:I'm also glad Duck is getting developed in the webisodes, but so far his storyline in The Resistance hasn't quite been as interesting. Hopefully episode 10 will give us more delightful Duck and Jammer goodness. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 21:23, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

::I posted a question at [[BW:OC]] just to make it 100% sure. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:34, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::Frankie, I think you meant to post that in the Episode 9 section :) --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:42, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::: Yes DUH!. I'll copy it. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 12:03, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

== Hyperlinks to the episodes ==

Shane, I'm just curious, why did you remove the hyperlinks to specific webisodes? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:38, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
:With the redesign of their site to total flash, the HTML pages were courput. I am going to re-add the URLs to the Flash pages themselfs once Episode 10 airs. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:04, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
::Oh, God. There are several citations linking to deleted scenes using the old URL scheme... --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:19, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
:::Are podcasts changed too? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 02:54, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
::::No. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:04, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::Perhaps this is something that cant be done on the wiki but its something we use at work on our website. All external links are in a database so that if it changes you can updates all the pages with the link on it. Its kinda hard to explain but basically if you wanted to link to the webisodes you would link to www.battlestarwiki.com/webisode1 and then you would set that url to redirect to whatever the external url was. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 03:26, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

== Unfinished ==
Due to the discussions about having problems hearing certain things, look at this [http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=interviews&id=7769 interview]. It looks like that the webisodes were unfinished, especially the sound mixing. May want to import some of this to the actual article itself. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 14:35, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

== Chinese Characters ==

I am Chinese, and the three Characters in episode 07 are "盐","渍" or "溃" and "姜" respectively. The right top part of the second character is too blurry that I can't figure it out. As you can see from the candidates I provide, they looks very similar.

# "盐": means "salt".
# "渍": means "be soiled"(verb) or "stain" (noun). And "溃" means "to ulcerate".
# "姜": It has two meanings: a surname or "ginger".
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:Actually, the second (middle) character looks more like "油" or "oil". Which makes a lot more sense, really, since it reads "salt", "oil", "ginger", all cooking ingredients. --[[User:Khaosworks|khaosworks]] ([[User talk:Khaosworks|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Khaosworks|contribs]]) 03:36, 29 October 2006 (CST)

== Episode 10 ==

I commented out a line of speculation. I am not sure we can reference their actions without proper visual confirmation. Jammer might be just talking a walk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:55, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:The implication was so clear that no other interpretation seems reasonable. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 11:59, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

== Use of Roman Numerals for Episodes ==

I noted that Peter reverted the use of Latin numeration in favor of Roman numeration (Episode X instead of Episode X) in some article references. Was this discussed? While we break down multi-episode parts by Roman numerals, we haven't set such a convention for this instance. Which should it be? I prefer Latin, although Roman has an asthetically pleasing look. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:44, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:There was no discussion - it just seemed jarring to have the two systems next to each other as I was writing the article. I'll go along with whatever consensus dictates. (BTW, the notation 1, 2, 3… is usually called Arabic numerals, not Latin.) --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:54, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
::I like the "look" of the Roman numerals, which seems to be consistent with the past. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 15:59, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:::OK. Let's stick with Roman, then, unless there's a significant objection. --
[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:17, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:::: I OBJECT (significantly). It's been hundreds upon hundreds of years since the end of the Roman Empire and I say we do away with ROman Numerals once and for all, and what better place to start than Battlestar wiki! 'End of the Romans! End of the Romans!' --[[jxh487]]

:::::Let's be radical and start using numbers from [http://it.stlawu.edu/~dmelvill/mesomath/Numbers.html Ancient Babylonian Cuneiform]. (just kidding). [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 20:11, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::As I noted On Nicholas Tyrol's Talk page, episodes (and webisdes) are typically numbered in Arabic Numeral (1, 2, 3, etc) and Parts are typically numbered in Roman Numerals (I, II, III, etc) and what are called Parts are usually Story Names (Home Pts I & II, Kobol's Last Gleamin Pts I & II, etc). But the webisodes have been called episodes of the web series The Resistance and though they are much smaller and have a single storyline, they are in fact still called episodes of the web series Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance. Under this light, they should follow an episode convention and be numbered in Arabic Numerals (1, 2, 3, etc). --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 21:51, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

== Length ==
I just did the math, and the webisodes (using our approximated times) add up to exactly 25 minutes. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 16:14, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

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== Webisode Anticipation ==
I think the Webisodes are a great idea that may expand the BSG Audience. Anyway, I can hope. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 22:07, 27 May 2006 (CDT)

I really, REALLY dont like the idea of this. 'Caprica' was bad enough (but i'll begrudgingly watch it anyway cause you kinda have to) but the idea of filler really, REALLY sucks - why oh why cant RDM and Eick just put the events of whats happened into one/two/three regular episodes rather than put these up? No doubt there'll be wonderful nuggegts of info put into these eps, and references made to them in normal eps that people wont get unless they watch these little 'things'. Ron - if you're reading this - you're getting WAY too ahead of yourself - keep to writing BSG itself first, no fancy pants crap, drop Caprica cause its a dumb idea and focus on what people want more of - BSG itself, not a spinoff, not webisodes - JUST BSG!!! </rant> Grr! --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 03:47, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
:Actually it might work really well, they did a similar thing with Richard E Grant voicing Doctor Who a few years back on the BBC website --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 06:38, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
: The BBC is also doing the ''Doctor Who Confidential'' series in tandem with the new ''Doctor Who'', as well as the mini ''Tardisodes'' that you can get from BBC's site. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 08:41, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
::I know the Tardisodes are available - but for those of us without broadband (i will be sans broadband for a long time in the next month or so), web episodes arent a good idea. There are going to be plenty of people that dont want to be forced into watching something online, and with the Tardisodes that the BBC put up, they're totally self contained AFAIK, with no references made to them from other episodes, and they're non-important in terms of the overall storyline of DW, as well as being able to be viewed on the Digibox (digital terrestrial DVB-T or Digital Satellite set top box) by pressing 'the big red button'. BSG on the other hand, they're talking about a major part of the backstory which is hardly what i'd call trivial! Are they going to air the episodes on telly for those countries outside the US or will they just assume everyone has fast broadband and dont watch telly? --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 13:07, 28 May 2006 (CDT)

:: This is the future of TV within 2-3 years most if not all tv shows will have some online content similar to the webisodes. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 12:14, 28 May 2006 (CDT)

:::I just cant see why its necessary to split up a show into loads of different segments, have some aired on telly, some on the net - it just makes everything that more annoying - why oh *why* can't TV execs just get the idea into their thick skulls that people are happy watching telly AS IT IS!!! --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 13:30, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

:::: My guess is that it is a business decision. You can show an advertiser exactly how many viewers. Also, you get more opportunities to advertise per viewer. Due to the web, DVR's, etc., I don't see the current TV business model surviving.--[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 13:46, 28 May 2006 (CDT)
== Unfinished Business ==
I have the feeling that the episode "Unfinished Business" will be a clip show of the webisodes, Just a guess. --[[User:Gougef|gougef]] 12:14, 28 May 2006 (CDT)

:No, they showed that it's different stuff: "Unfinished Business" deals with stuff *before* the Cylons came, the webisodes deal with stuff after that. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 20:52, 18 July 2006 (CDT)
::Great more BSG content :D!! --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 21:52, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

:I do hope that these get aired on telly, i really, really do :'( --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 13:29, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

:This is not a bad idea at all. It's like a side project. Something that more than likely will have no tie-in to the regular series. Otherwise, why not call them teasers instead of webisodes? It's not featuring any of the main cast as far as we have been told. All the more interesting. My only regret about it is it will be something only accessed on Galactica's SciFi site, and not available on iTunes.--[[User:AJFederation|AJFederation]] 01:41, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

==Add into Episode Guide template==

Right now, Season 2 ends and proceeds to Season 3 in the template at the bottom of the screen: where's the page where I can add this webisode series into the succession?: I think it should be put at the beginning of Season 3 (or at least, after LDYB II clicking "next" would lead here, not season 3 proper). --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 18:13, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

In addition, I think the format of this page should be that of any one episode in the episode guide; that is, there won't be separate subpages linked for each of the 10 webisodes: ***Bradley Thompson, who co-wrote these, said he considers it one story, just broken up into 10 chunks, which I think is just like how a normal episode is broken up by commercial breaks. This really isn't a separate series, so much as a "special episode". It's not a separate series, but part of the series between Seasons 2 and 3 (we asked Thompson how we should consider it with that; waiting on answer). --->Originally I had thought this would be a parent series page that had episodes linked from it, but based on Thompson's comments it makes more sense just to put it in an episode format. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 19:44, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

==September Debut==

An BSG article in the October issue of SciFi Magazine says the Webisodes will start in September. Whether the WGA actions will affect this or not is unknown. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:21, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:The WGA announcement was this Wednesday. I do know they were originally planned to be aired for 10 weeks (one each week) before the season premiere...in which case they would already have started two weeks ago. I think there was foot dragging where they hoped to ''vaguely'' "have them out in September or something" but that this broke down. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 20:24, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:: The mag probably went to print assuming that everything will be ok, but it's not?? No word from Bradley yet?--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:28, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Nothing. I'd make a big deal about it if there was. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 20:36, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
::::I was just hoping for tidbit of the webisodes by now to feed my raging beast ;-). Thanks for being on top of it--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:40, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
I'm confused about the last paragraph of the Contract Disputes... section. We say "several weeks" later from August, the tapes were handed over. (I assume that means at least 3 weeks.) The WGA/NBCU dispute became public on Aug. 12 and the NLRB greviance was filed on the 18th. It doesn't seem that three weeks have passed. Can that be clarified? Also, what changed or broke the stalemate? There has been nothing announced in Variety or elsewhere, at least in regard to The Office. How can the BSG producers turn over tapes without getting in trouble with the writers guild, of which Moore and Eick are presumably members. Can anyone explain?--[[User:Elach|Elach]] 13:42, 28 August 2006 (CDT)

== "Image" ==

When we do a picture for the Episode Data block and this is all done, we should take all 10 of the images and put them in a pattern so it would be a mossic image. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 20:39, 2 September 2006 (CDT)

:I like your idea, and I suggest 2 wide by 5 tall, as it must be either 1x10 or 2x5 (barring tomfoolery), and 5x2 would have unfortunate aspect ratio consequences. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 00:20, 3 September 2006 (CDT)

== Connectivity?!? ==

Is anyone else having problems watching the webisodes?
I've waited all this time for them to air and I can't watch a single one!

How shady is that?

Do Sci-Fi.com have availbility problems regarding this, and how hong is it going to take to fix?

Does anyone know if they are going to be released in any other format other than webisode? --Jetstorm316
:I just watched it not 20 minutes ago and it worked. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 05:32, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::You need the latest Flash player. You can get it from the Marrocmedia Website. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 08:42, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Any way to watch it if not from America? Wont let me watch here in the UK :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:21, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Tried several US proxies and it just wont load. can someone save it and upload to google video or youtube or summit? :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 11:40, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::This is bending the policy,but it is on you-tube (Watch this morning because it works better than the official site at lower speeds). Should be a link on skiffy board somewhere. Or gtalk or gmail me and I will find the link. gougef at gmail dot com. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:44, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::Well said, Frankie. No hosting or linking to "illegal" copies... but like he said there's youtube links at sciffy (even though the admins appear to be trying to delete them). And the "flash player" official version was choppy even with ultra-broadband. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:00, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::Thanks for your help anyway guys. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 12:13, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

Does any one have the link for the you tube version? My Flash player is upto date, but can't watch here in the UK........

Must be a Trans-Atlantic thing or something, but I hope they put it on 3.0 to compensate for people who are missing out.--Jetstorm316 19:12GMT 5 september 2006

EUREKA! Success at last! If you have a torrent client, go to this link,
<<removed link>>
Now, we can all watch it at our leasure --jetstorm316 19:34hrs GMT
:We don't host or link copies. Removed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 13:18, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:Please do not link to the webisodes or clips of BSG on this Wiki that are copyrighted. Thank you --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 13:21, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

And thats the thanks I get for helping us all out who have connectivity problems? You know what, F*** the lot of you! I won't visit this site again!

This is the last entry for Jetstorm316

Goodbye and good F***ing luck to you bunch of F***ing losers!
:Please do not feel offended by up removing the link you posted. As i mentioned on your talk page It was nice of you to think of others but we dont want to get into any copyright issues with the producers. I hope you re-think your decision about leaving as your other contributions in the talk pages have been great --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 13:49, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
::what Mercifull said. Personally, it was hard to get use to posting here after being involve with other online forums and communities. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:59, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:::It's easy for me 'cause on other forums I don't link to that kinda junk anyway. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:51, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

'''Obviously''' there is more than a little frustration over not being able to connect outside the US. I'm not sure about the UK and other countries, but I do know that Canada's Space Channel has bought the show to broadcast on pretty much the same dates as in the US. This makes the fact that we Canadians(and anyone else who is going to see the show boadcast legally on television on October outside the US) would really benefit from being able to access the webisodes...we will watch the premier on Space, just like everyone else, except we are forced to result to illegal means to see the webisodes. I know this is a novelty, and perhaps the websiode content won't greatly affect the regularly aired shows, but really, I truly feel that this is a bad mistake on SciFi's behalf...and maybe even on Canada's Space Channel's Behalf for not seeking to host the webisodes on their Canadian site. It'll be something that they can claim as "EXTRA SPECIAL" on the DVD releases perhaps..but I think that once that is done, it becomes "bonus material" for the DVD and no longer the exciting and unique experience of participating with everyone else, waiting expectantly for the next five minute morsel to whet our appetites for the coming season...instead we have to lurk around in the dark and worry that maybe YOUTUBE is going to cut us off. We are fans and we all want the same great experience.

Maybe this isn't the place to debate...but I think I'll be writing both SciFi and SPACE to see how they can make a better, more rounded fan experience for an evidently GLOBAL audience.
--[[User:Gallion|Gallion]] 07:31, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

:I am from the UK and sent an email to SciFi asking whether they will ever be available to those outside the US, they didn't even bother replying. --[[User:Warpfactor|Warpfactor]] 13:08, 29 September 2006 (CDT)

==Cast & Crew announced==
Now that Ron Moore has [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/ announced] the full cast and crew listing of the webisodes, it may be better to have a crew section and a cast section instead of listing the cast under each of the ten recaps. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 21:17, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
:Agree, but we should make when we saw each cast memeber. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:29, 6 September 2006 (CDT)

== Sister Tivenan ==
I'd imagine the pirestess I didn't recognize in webisode 2 was the Sister Tivenan in those credits by elimination. That does not leave me quite comfortable with claiming her as identified. I didn't find a Tivenan by search here, so I'd assume she's a new character. I solicit opinions. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 23:54, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
:She appears to be a completely new character.--[[User:Larocque6689|Larocque6689]] 06:58, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

== Doral/Number Five ==

It seems like such a trivial thing to bring up, but I notice that the Wiki credits (anticipating his future appearance) now refer to Matthew Bennett's role as [[Number Five]] even though Ron's blog specifically refers to his role as [[Doral]] and that he is referred to as a Doral model in several episodes (including "[[Litmus]]".) Rather than revert it back, I'll just note the change and leave it up here as something to resolve until he makes his webisode debut.--[[User:Larocque6689|Larocque6689]] 07:04, 7 September 2006 (CDT)
:There are many Fives but only one Aaron Doral, and there's no indication that it's him. RDM refers to models other than Sixes as "D'annas", "Dorals", "Sharons" etc. for simplicity's sake. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 07:58, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

==Episode 3?==

So, uh, where the heck's Episode 3? It's not up! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:11, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
:Whoops, never mind. Episode 3 went up at 12 ''PM'' eastern as opposed to 12 ''AM'' Eastern. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:13, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
::Yeah. :) I just finshed watching it. It was ok. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:15, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
:::My silly school blocks streaming video :( --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:16, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

==Official Sources==
Thinking about moving the contract dispute stuff down the page into an Official Sources section. I find it distracting where it is. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:51, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

==Webisodes links==

Is it okay to add links to the webisodes? I searched the source of the article but didn't see any. What about removing the comments of Jetstorm316 above, or for that matter how about all the comments that folks made without reading the webisodes FAQ which is linked to on all the webisode pages? [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 16:41, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
: What kind of links are we talking about here? Are we talking about the official Scifi.com links? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 17:05, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:: Yes, such as /battlestar/video/webisodes/01/ (with the scifi dot com added to the front of course). [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 17:35, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Done. thanks for noticing that frakup. Also, the removed contents of Jetstorm was link(s) to "unofficial" copies. Can't link directly to FAQ because it is java popup from SciFi.com. May post relevant part to official statements. Thanks again. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:00, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
::::Swt, thanks and your welcome. The FAQ can be seen here http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/webisodes/faq.html I meant removing Jetstorms comments on this Talk page, maybe remove contents of the Connectivity?!? and replace it with the FAQ url? [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 18:50, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::I don't mind removing his comments, as long as we archive them. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:37, 14 September 2006 (CDT)

==Why one page?==
Why not have seperate pages for each webisode? Even the TVIV has seperate pages for each webisode. That's pretty embarrassing that the battlestarwiki has inferior coverage of something Battlestar related. --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 18:42, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
: Actually, Mateo, this is just one episode split into 10 morsels. My present feeling is that this'll be rolled into one feature on the Season 3 DVDs when they come out (or they'll also air it on Sci-Fi sometime in the future as one 30 minute special). -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 20:34, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
:: ''this is just one episode split into 10 morsels'' Says who? Scifi.com says otherwise. It describes them as 10 webisodes. --[[User:Mateo|Mateo]] 18:54, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Scifi.com also said Duck and Nora were married (when they weren't). The web staff of scifi isn't always on the same page as the writers/producers of the show. Regardless of what either of them think, though, we should probably do what makes best sense for the encyclopedia. I'm not sure if the the content of each "webisode" is enough to merit a whole "episode" article. I like the fact that this current format maintains the standard layout (summary, questions, analysis, notes) and grouping them together gives it enough meat to fill it out. It'd be a harder call if each of the webisodes had a title, but lacking that they fall neatly into the current format. I'm not dead set against separate articles (heck, we've got some really small ones), but unless this grows out of control it looks ok to me. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:04, 25 September 2006 (CDT)

== Cast and References ==
The references is a bit confusing. Cally [1][2] is for episode 1 and 4... Maybe it's different with Firefox, but right now I'm with IE. So, if we keep the references, we can create something like the wiki '''TvIV''' is using for the characters. Ex:

{| class="messagebox" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Cast Member'''
! class="infoboxheader" | '''Character'''
! class="infoboxheader" colspan="10" | '''Episode(s)'''
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| [[Nicki Clyne]]
| [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally]]
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| [[Aaron Douglas]]
| [[Galen Tyrol]]
| 1
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| 3
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| [[Christian Tessier]]
| [[Tucker Clellan|Tucker "Duck" Clellan]]
| 1
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|}

I think that way we keep the references in the order they appeared and create a kind of Timeline for the entire Webisode. And no more confusion. What do you think? --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 14:17, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Agreed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 14:28, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Agreed. Good idea. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 16:48, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

== Jammer ==
In episode 7, before Number Five asks Jammer if he can refer to him as James or if he prefers Jammer, he refers to him as Mr..., I think he said Mr. Lynom. I listened to it a number of times and it's hard to make out but I am wondering if anybody else caught it. --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 10:44, 26 September 2006 (AST)
:See [[Talk:Jammer]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:29, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

== Number Five's comment in Episode 7 ==
I don't think that he asks Jammer "Can I call you James or Jim?" as was placed in the notes, I believe the correct dialog is "Can I call you James or do you prefer Jammer?" I want to change that on the article page but want verification first. --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 11:33, 26 September 2006 (AST)
:You are probably right. The audio, especially Doral, sucked on this episode. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:41, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
::He said "Jim" not "Jammer," I just listened to it a moment ago, I'll go confirm it. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:42, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Never mind, got it backwards, he definately said Jammer. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:43, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
::::No, Definitely, I listened to it again and he did for a certainty say Jammer not Jim. I am going to change it. --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 12:11, 26 September 2006 (AST)

== Episode 9 ==

Hello. I'm new here. I just added in a synopsis of the ninth webisode. Hopefully it's up to snuff. Any pointers on writing conventions here would be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 13:03, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

:You did a delightful job; that was some might fine prose. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 14:48, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
:: Hello Alpha! Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! Thank you for your fine contributions so far! I personally look forward to future contributions from you! In response to your request for pointers, check out Battlestar Wiki's [[BW:SC|Standards and Conventions]], as well as our [[BW:SP|Spoiler]] and [[BW:CJ|Citation]] policies. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] 14:53, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
:It looks good to me as well. Thanks for your contribution. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:12, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

Okay - I'm new here, but I just listened to Episode 9 and it sounds like he says "a little bird told me" not "Boomer told me" (which makes more sense, since Boomer should still be on the Galactica). Can someone else confirm/deny this? [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:16, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:yeah - I just listened to it several times to make sure - he clearly (but quickly) says "little bird told me" - Not boomer. Changing the main page. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:21, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:: Well, I'll be. That's the second time I've misheard something in these webisodes. I listened to it several times before, and it always sounded like Boomer. And everyone else I talked to heard Boomer. But I'll be damned if he's not saying "little bird". Dang, I really loved the implications of Boomer telling him. Which could definitely happen, as she's on New Caprica (Sharon's on Galactica). Even if she wasn't working with The Resistance, it made sense to me that she might contact the Chief to tell him his friend had been arrested. But alas, that plot twist is no more. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 11:28, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:: I get Sharon and Boomer mixed up all the time - oh, well. It was hard to tell what he said exactly at first, but since it's three syllables and consists of mostly hard consonants and short vowels (whereas Boomer is two syllables and has a long vowel sound and a soft consonat sound), I got curious and listened to it several times. He says it so quickly it's somewhat muffled, but it's clearly "little bird" once you figure out what he's saying.[[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:56, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::No, no, no. I've listened again and again and heard nothing but "Boomer". It's one word and clearly starts with a B, clearly followed by an "ooh", clearly followed by a "mer". I've tried to hear it as "rumor" or "little bird" and failed. And I believe she informed Tyrol about the release, the arrest would have been public knowledge. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:55, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::: none - please listen again - the syllable count and consanant sounds do not fit Boomer. It seems some fans are too willing to hear what they want to hear. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 11:58, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::(This should have been hear) I posted a question at [[BW:OC]] just to make it 100% sure. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:34, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::Can we just leave off who told him until we hear [[BW:OC|some word]]? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:00, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::: Good idea - my wife insists he's saying "ol' grover told me". I have no idea now. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 12:02, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::: I listened a couple more times and it's still "Boomer". I could almost believe it was "bird" (no "little", just "bird") except that there's an M in it. There really is. Leaving off until we hear from Ngarenn does indeed seem sensible, Steelviper. That's why I removed that part when I edited it. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 12:06, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::: I'm pretty sure I heard Boomer, as well. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:17, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::::: I'm so sure I head "Boomer" that I have difficulty assuming good faith here. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 13:34, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::Agree. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:37, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::Now, now. As certain as I am that it's "Boomer", I'm sure Rabidwolfe's edits were in good faith. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 13:59, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::The [http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2191836&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD transcripts] posted at Sciffy began as "rumor" then shifted towards "Boomer". "Boomer" is what I heard initially. Really, this is an example that could be easily cleared up by Mr. Thompson. Worst case (if he doesn't respond) we could do the audio analysis ala "Narcho". If it's "rumor", or "a little bird", or any other generic external source then it's not of much signifance. As mentioned in the OC question, it's only noteworthy if it is in fact "Boomer". --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:11, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::::::Those transcripts are done by fans, unfortunately. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:43, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::::::Well, right. As an RDM podcast transcriber, I recognize the fan transcripts for what they are, and realize that they are subject to error. I was just harnessing the "extra ears" to get a feel for what others heard. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:52, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::::::::I was just pointing out how nice it would be if the transcripts were official. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:16, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::::::::OK, now I'm extremely confused. I listened like a half dozen times when RapidWolfe first brought this up, and at the time, I definitely heard "little bird." He said it quickly, kinda slurred, but I swear Tyrol said it. Now I read the whole big discussion here and try listening again. I can't make heads or tails of it, because now I can't hear anything but Boomer. Apparently I'll hear whatever I'm told to. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 15:30, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::::::: I'm sorry - I was sure it was little bird. I promise if it is Boomer, I'll eat crow or whatever. FWIW, I just had three random friends who don't watch BSG listen to it, and the three answers they told me were: "the colonel", "rumor" and "colonel." I'm now as confused as anyone else. [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 15:57, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

===Spectrogram===
If someone can get me a WAV or AIFF of the audio in question, I can analyze it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:40, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:I have a sample. Working on it now. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:14, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
::Okay. Let's do a quick run-through. A narrow transcription of "Boomer" reads {{IPA|pumɹ̣}}, "Rumor" reads {{IPA|ɹumɹ̣}}, and "A little bird" reads {{IPA|elɪɾḷpɹ̣d}}. "A little bird" in very fast speech would probably be realized as "Lil' bird", {{IPA|lɪlpɹ̣d}}, or maybe just "Bird", {{IPA|pɹ̣d}}. What are the salient differences here?
::*"Boomer" is distinguished from "Rumor" by a bilabial stop {{IPA|p}} vs. a retroflex approximant {{IPA|ɹ}}. The {{IPA|p}} is clearly audible to me in the recording, but unfortunately there's too much white noise to make it out in the spectrogram. However, we can ascertain whether or not {{IPA|ɹ}} is present, as that would drag down the second and third formants of the following vowel.
::*"Boomer" is quite clearly distinguishable from "Bird". "Boomer" has two vowels, high back rounded {{IPA|u}} and r-colored {{IPA|ɹ̣}}, interrupted by a bilabial nasal {{IPA|m}}. "Bird" has no nasal and a single vowel, {{IPA|ɹ̣}}. Thus, if we see a nasal and a vowel that is not r-colored, we can safely rule out "Bird".
::So, what we actually see looks to me like:
::[[Image:Boomer-spectrogram.png]]
::There is clearly a nasal breaking the vowel formants into two regions. Thus, we can eliminate "(a little) bird" as a possibility. The first has a fairly low first and second formant, as we would expect for {{IPA|u}}, and its third formant, while barely visible, does not appear to be lowered be a preceding {{IPA|ɹ}}. Additionally, the bilabial plosive {{IPA|p}} is clearly audible in the recording. In the second vowel, the third formant can be seen to lower, which is suggestive of r-coloring. Thus, "Boomer" seems to be the only possibility. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:48, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
:::Here's the clip, if anyone wants to {{audio|boomertoldme.mp3|listen}} --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:06, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::: well, that does sound like Boomer. I'll eat crow. (but please don't say I was acting in bad faith). [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 18:16, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::: What I fail to understand is that Webisodes have logically build upon each other and suddenly they dropped "Boomer" out of the middle of nowhere. Confused me???. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:20, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::: I wasn't saying you were acting in bad faith; I just meant that I found it hard to believe. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]]) 21:33, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::::::The most damning evidence in my mind was that I clearly heard the "buh" sound. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:49, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

I've listened to it and he undoubtedly says "Laura told me" --[[jxh487]]
I take it back, it undoubtedly is "Boomer told me", just said rather lazily with improper enunciation [[User:Jxh487|Jxh487]] 11:59, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

== Jammer's Role ==

I just need to say that it's good to see Jammer playing such a large role in the webisodes, and he's become one of my more favored characters due to what we've seen of him in the webisodes. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:10, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

: I would have to agree. I've mainly noticed Jammer because of the Cylon speculation page, but he was barely in the series; The Resistance has given him some great development. I expect he'll develop similarly to Cally in Season Two: a recognizable tertiary character suddenly gets major exposure and is catapulted to secondary status. Jammer is awesome, and I can't wait to see where he goes in Season Three (even though the trailers have already given me far too good an idea).

:I'm also glad Duck is getting developed in the webisodes, but so far his storyline in The Resistance hasn't quite been as interesting. Hopefully episode 10 will give us more delightful Duck and Jammer goodness. [[User:Alpha5099|Alpha5099]] 21:23, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

::I posted a question at [[BW:OC]] just to make it 100% sure. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:34, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:::Frankie, I think you meant to post that in the Episode 9 section :) --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:42, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

::: Yes DUH!. I'll copy it. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 12:03, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

== Hyperlinks to the episodes ==

Shane, I'm just curious, why did you remove the hyperlinks to specific webisodes? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:38, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
:With the redesign of their site to total flash, the HTML pages were courput. I am going to re-add the URLs to the Flash pages themselfs once Episode 10 airs. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 23:04, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
::Oh, God. There are several citations linking to deleted scenes using the old URL scheme... --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:19, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
:::Are podcasts changed too? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 02:54, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
::::No. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:04, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:::::Perhaps this is something that cant be done on the wiki but its something we use at work on our website. All external links are in a database so that if it changes you can updates all the pages with the link on it. Its kinda hard to explain but basically if you wanted to link to the webisodes you would link to www.battlestarwiki.com/webisode1 and then you would set that url to redirect to whatever the external url was. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 03:26, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

== Unfinished ==
Due to the discussions about having problems hearing certain things, look at this [http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=interviews&id=7769 interview]. It looks like that the webisodes were unfinished, especially the sound mixing. May want to import some of this to the actual article itself. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 14:35, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

== Chinese Characters ==

I am Chinese, and the three Characters in episode 07 are "盐","渍" or "溃" and "姜" respectively. The right top part of the second character is too blurry that I can't figure it out. As you can see from the candidates I provide, they looks very similar.

# "盐": means "salt".
# "渍": means "be soiled"(verb) or "stain" (noun). And "溃" means "to ulcerate".
# "姜": It has two meanings: a surname or "ginger".
{{unsigned|SuperMMX}}

:Actually, the second (middle) character looks more like
油 or "oil". Which makes a lot more sense, really, since it reads "salt", "oil", "ginger", all cooking ingredients. --[[User:Khaosworks|khaosworks]] ([[User talk:Khaosworks|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Khaosworks|contribs]]) 03:36, 29 October 2006 (CST)

== Episode 10 ==

I commented out a line of speculation. I am not sure we can reference their actions without proper visual confirmation. Jammer might be just talking a walk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]]) 11:55, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:The implication was so clear that no other interpretation seems reasonable. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 11:59, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

== Use of Roman Numerals for Episodes ==

I noted that Peter reverted the use of Latin numeration in favor of Roman numeration (Episode X instead of Episode X) in some article references. Was this discussed? While we break down multi-episode parts by Roman numerals, we haven't set such a convention for this instance. Which should it be? I prefer Latin, although Roman has an asthetically pleasing look. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:44, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:There was no discussion - it just seemed jarring to have the two systems next to each other as I was writing the article. I'll go along with whatever consensus dictates. (BTW, the notation 1, 2, 3… is usually called Arabic numerals, not Latin.) --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:54, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
::I like the "look" of the Roman numerals, which seems to be consistent with the past. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 15:59, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:::OK. Let's stick with Roman, then, unless there's a significant objection. --
[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:17, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
:::: I OBJECT (significantly). It's been hundreds upon hundreds of years since the end of the Roman Empire and I say we do away with ROman Numerals once and for all, and what better place to start than Battlestar wiki! 'End of the Romans! End of the Romans!' --[[jxh487]]

:::::Let's be radical and start using numbers from [http://it.stlawu.edu/~dmelvill/mesomath/Numbers.html Ancient Babylonian Cuneiform]. (just kidding). [[User:Rabidwolfe|Rabidwolfe]] 20:11, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::As I noted On Nicholas Tyrol's Talk page, episodes (and webisdes) are typically numbered in Arabic Numeral (1, 2, 3, etc) and Parts are typically numbered in Roman Numerals (I, II, III, etc) and what are called Parts are usually Story Names (Home Pts I & II, Kobol's Last Gleamin Pts I & II, etc). But the webisodes have been called episodes of the web series The Resistance and though they are much smaller and have a single storyline, they are in fact still called episodes of the web series Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance. Under this light, they should follow an episode convention and be numbered in Arabic Numerals (1, 2, 3, etc). --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 21:51, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

== Length ==
I just did the math, and the webisodes (using our approximated times) add up to exactly 25 minutes. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 16:14, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

James Lyman

2006-10-23T12:07:35Z

Khaosworks: rm "somehow" since we saw him make a run for it

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'''James "Jammer" Lyman''' is a member of the [[New Caprica Police]] who was formerly a deckhand assigned to [[Deck Crew 5]] under Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]. While on [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] he was often seen working alongside other crewmembers [[Socinus]] and [[Cally]] in the hangar bay.

When President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] makes it public knowledge that Cylons are now capable of [[Cylon agent|mimicking human form]], paranoia spreads throughout the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]]. Cally and Socinus argue with Lyman that everyone shouldn't become suspicious and stop trusting one another or the Cylons get what they want. Lyman tells his shipmates that the time for that kind of thinking is in the past and it's "every man for himself now" ([[Litmus]]).

When [[Cylon Centurion]]s board ''Galactica'' ([[Valley of Darkness]]), Captain [[Lee Adama]] and a team of Marines find Lyman hiding unharmed in a small arms locker room filled with crewmen the Cylons killed.

Lyman also scoffs Tyrol's attempt at constructing the [[Blackbird]], though he later reconsiders his decision and aids the deck crew and Tyrol in finishing the prototype, signing his nickname on the hull ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).

As with most of the Fleet, Lyman settles on [[New Caprica]]. After the Cylons occupy the planet, Lyman becomes a member of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. He appears to very religious, and objects to hiding weapons in the [[temple]]. Lyman is picked up by the Cylon authorities and asked about the events of the temple by a copy of [[Number Five]]. He later joins the [[New Caprica Police]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance]]).

Jammer survives the suicide bombing carried out by [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] at the NCP graduation ceremony and later participates in the rounding up of "insurgents" ordered by the Cylons. Like all NCP personnel, he wears a mask to conceal his identity, and not even Tyrol is aware of Jammer's new position. Jammer has a slight change of heart when the Cylons order the execution of 200 detainees, including Cally. At the execution site, just before the firing squad of [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] appears, he cuts Cally's bonds and tells her to run ([[Precipice]]). The Centurions are then fired on by Tyrol and his fellow insurgents, who rescue the detainees ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Jammer also escapes capture or shooting by Tyrol's squad, and is seen again as New Caprica City is being evacuated during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]). [[Tom Zarek]] gives him a sidearm and tells him to guard [[Laura Roslin]] as she makes her way back to ''[[Colonial One]]''. Jammer is on board the Presidential liner when it takes off to rendezvous with the Fleet.

== Notes ==
*It has been [[Cylon agent speculation|speculated]] that Lyman may be one of the remaining [[Cylon agent|humanoid Cylon]] models to be revealed.
*For some time, it was not entirely clear whether "Jammer" is the character's actual name or his nickname (like Tyrol being called "Chief" most of the time in casual conversation) because no one ever formally addressed him by name and rank, i.e. "Specialist Jammer" was never been spoken aloud. Curiously, he signed his name on the [[Blackbird]] simply as "Jammer".
*Lyman is distinct amongst the deck crew of ''Galactica'' in that while essentially all of the other deck crew characters so far shown wear orange jumpsuits, Lyman's jumpsuit is yellow (this makes him easy to spot for fans who might not know who he is). This is probably done to add to the realism of the Re-imagined Series, because real-world aircraft carrier deck crew personnel wear color-coded jumpsuits according to their assigned tasks. On real-world US Navy carriers, yellow-suited deck crewmen are charged with aircraft handling, catapult gear, and plane direction duties. The US Navy actually doesn't use an orange-suit designation, but the closest to that are red-suited personel, who are charged with ordnance, crash and salvage duties.

[[Category: A to Z]] [[Category: Characters]] [[Category: RDM]]

James Lyman

2006-10-23T08:28:49Z

Khaosworks: tenses; citation

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'''James "Jammer" Lyman''' is a member of the [[New Caprica Police]] who was formerly a deckhand assigned to [[Deck Crew 5]] under Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]. While on [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] he was often seen working alongside other crewmembers [[Socinus]] and [[Cally]] in the hangar bay.

When President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] makes it public knowledge that Cylons are now capable of [[Cylon agent|mimicking human form]], paranoia spreads throughout the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]]. Cally and Socinus argue with Lyman that everyone shouldn't become suspicious and stop trusting one another or the Cylons get what they want. Lyman tells his shipmates that the time for that kind of thinking is in the past and it's "every man for himself now" ([[Litmus]]).

When [[Cylon Centurion]]s board ''Galactica'' ([[Valley of Darkness]]), Captain [[Lee Adama]] and a team of Marines find Lyman hiding unharmed in a small arms locker room filled with crewmen the Cylons killed.

Lyman also scoffs Tyrol's attempt at constructing the [[Blackbird]], though he later reconsiders his decision and aids the deck crew and Tyrol in finishing the prototype, signing his nickname on the hull ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).

As with most of the Fleet, Lyman settles on [[New Caprica]]. After the Cylons occupy the planet, Lyman becomes a member of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. He appears to very religious, and objects to hiding weapons in the [[temple]]. Lyman is picked up by the Cylon authorities and asked about the events of the temple by a copy of [[Number Five]]. He later joins the [[New Caprica Police]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance]]).

Jammer survives the suicide bombing carried out by [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] at the NCP graduation ceremony and later participates in the rounding up of "insurgents" ordered by the Cylons. Like all NCP personnel, he wears a mask to conceal his identity, and not even Tyrol is aware of Jammer's new position. Jammer has a slight change of heart when the Cylons order the execution of 200 detainees, including Cally. At the execution site, just before the firing squad of [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] appears, he cuts Cally's bonds and tells her to run ([[Precipice]]). The Centurions are then fired on by Tyrol and his fellow insurgents, who rescue the detainees ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Jammer somehow escapes capture or shooting by Tyrol's squad, and is seen again as New Caprica City is being evacuated during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]). [[Tom Zarek]] gives him a sidearm and tells him to guard [[Laura Roslin]] as she makes her way back to ''[[Colonial One]]''. Jammer is on board the Presidential liner when it takes off to rendezvous with the Fleet.

== Notes ==
*It has been [[Cylon agent speculation|speculated]] that Lyman may be one of the remaining [[Cylon agent|humanoid Cylon]] models to be revealed.
*For some time, it was not entirely clear whether "Jammer" is the character's actual name or his nickname (like Tyrol being called "Chief" most of the time in casual conversation) because no one ever formally addressed him by name and rank, i.e. "Specialist Jammer" was never been spoken aloud. Curiously, he signed his name on the [[Blackbird]] simply as "Jammer".
*Lyman is distinct amongst the deck crew of ''Galactica'' in that while essentially all of the other deck crew characters so far shown wear orange jumpsuits, Lyman's jumpsuit is yellow (this makes him easy to spot for fans who might not know who he is). This is probably done to add to the realism of the Re-imagined Series, because real-world aircraft carrier deck crew personnel wear color-coded jumpsuits according to their assigned tasks. On real-world US Navy carriers, yellow-suited deck crewmen are charged with aircraft handling, catapult gear, and plane direction duties. The US Navy actually doesn't use an orange-suit designation, but the closest to that are red-suited personel, who are charged with ordnance, crash and salvage duties.

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Battle of Kobol (TRS)

2006-10-23T05:11:21Z

Khaosworks: /* Raptor Team Rescue */

:''For information on a battle over [[Kobol]] from the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], see [[Battle of Kobol (TOS)]].''

{{Battle Data
|name=Battle of Kobol
|image=DoctorStrangeLove.jpg
|description=Cylon basestar destroyed by a tactical nuke, in orbit of Kobol
|conflict=[[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon war]]
|date=[[Re-Imagined Series Timeline|Day 50-51]]
|place=[[Kobol]], nearby space
|result=[[Colonial]] victory
|combatant1=Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet]]
|combatant2=[[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]
|co1=Commander [[William Adama]], Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
|co2=Unknown †
|strength1=[[Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica]]'' 18-35 [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] 6 [[Raptor|Raptors]] 
1 captured [[Raider]] (on Caprica) 
1 captured [[Heavy Raider]] (on Caprica)
|strength2=2 [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]] [[Raiders]] At least one [[Heavy Raider]] 
Fixed anti-aircraft emplacement (on Kobol) 
At least 5 Cylon Centurions on Kobol 
10 Cylon Centurions on ''Galactica''
|shiploss1=2 Raptors
|shiploss2=1 Basestar over Kobol, Unknown number of Raiders, 1 Heavy Raider
|casualties1=10 killed on [[Raptor 3]], 4 on [[Raptor 1]], 11 killed in Cylon boarding of the ''Galactica''. Total [[Survivor Count]] decremented by 34, excluding Cylon agents
|casualties2=Loss of at least 5 Centurions on Kobol Loss of 10 Centurions on ''Galactica''
|prev=[[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]]
|next=[[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]]
}}
The '''Battle of Kobol''' occurs when battlestar ''Galactica'' stumbles on the mythological human homeworld of [[Kobol]] and attempts to discover its secrets.

== Discovery ==

During a reconnaissance flight, pilots [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] and [[Crashdown]] return to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' with information on an unusual habitable planet. Investigation of the ruins and features of the planet confirm that ''Galactica'' had discovered, by accident, the original human homeworld of [[Kobol]], detailed extensively in the [[Sacred Scrolls|scriptures]] from the [[Lords of Kobol]]. Commander [[William Adama]] directs three [[Raptor]]s to conduct a thorough surface survey of the planet, particularly to note whether the Fleet should settle there.

As the Raptors complete their Jump near Kobol, they are attacked by [[Raider]]s. One Raptor is destroyed and a second [[FTL|Jumps]] away to safety. A third Raptor is shot and crash-lands on Kobol.

Since the orbiting [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] prohibits a rescue of the surviving crashed Raptor crew, [[Kara Thrace]] suggests the use of the captured Raider ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]) to sneak near the basestar with a nuclear warhead, leaving it there to destroy the capital ship and as many Raiders as possible. Adama agrees to the plan. However, intervention by President [[Laura Roslin]] with Thrace leads the pilot to disobey orders and to divert the Raider (while on a test flight) to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] to seek an artifact known as the [[Arrow of Apollo]]. This change requires Adama to direct Lt. Valerii to fly a Raptor with a [[Cylon transponder]] to the basestar to carry out the nuclear attack, with [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] as her [[ECO]].

The Raptor enters the orbit of Kobol undetected, but a problem with weapon deployment forces Boomer to land within the basestar in a habitable area to manually deploy the weapon. Valerii encounters several [[Cylon agent|Cylon]] copies of herself while in the basestar, whose presence apparently activates more of her latent Cylon programming. The copies detect the nuclear warhead, but nevertheless allow it to detonate. The basestar is destroyed, clearing the way for a rescue operation and leaving a small party of Cylons stranded near the ruins of the [[Opera House]] on Kobol. This was perhaps the first time during the entire [[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon War]] that Colonial forces successfully destroy a Cylon basestar.

As Adama congratulates Valerii, the Cylon agent pulls out her pistol and shoots the Commander twice at point-blank range ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Scattering of the Fleet ==

In the chaos caused by the shooting, another basestar suddenly appears. Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] assumes command of ''Galactica'', with Captain [[Aaron Kelly]] serving as his second in command. As medical staff attended to the seriously-wounded William Adama, Valerii is taken to the [[brig]]. Caught by surprise, Tigh orders the Fleet to jump to its [[Emergency Jump Coordinates| emergency jump coordinates]] pre-planned by standard procedure by Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]]. However, ''Galactica'' herself has incorrect jump coordinates and finds herself separated from the rest of the Fleet ([[Scattered]]). The ship cannot return to its original location to obtain the Fleet's location by conventional procedure; this would take hours, and the basestar would likely destroy the ship in far less time. Gaeta devises a way to determine the fleet location faster by temporarily networking several ship [[computers]] to process data faster. Knowing that the Cylons would attempt to infiltrate the network, Gaeta places four software firewalls in place to slow the progress of the expected infection.

The downed Raptor crew on Kobol, lead by [[Crashdown]] attends as best they can to their injured. They are later attacked by [[Cylon Centurion]]s and flee to the woods for cover.

''Galactica'' returns to its previous location and is immediately attacked by the waiting Cylon fleet. Lee Adama (on parole) leads a squadron of Vipers in defense of the ship. During the attack, a [[Heavy Raider]] heads for ''Galactica''. [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] attack the craft, which veered into ''Galactica'''s firing solution and crash-lands into the starboard [[flight pod]], depressurizing it (it had been converted as a [[Galactica Museum|museum area]] in preparation for the ship's decommissioning and was unused for flight operations at the time). Gaeta successfully obtains the Fleet's coordinates, but not before a Cylon virus infects one of the networked systems, unknown to the command staff. Gaeta disconnects the network a moment later. ''Galactica'' [[FTL|Jumps]] to reunite with the civilian fleet.

== Cylon Boarding ==

The crashed Heavy Raider in ''Galactica's'' starboard landing pod deploys 10 specially-armored Cylon Centurions, which could only be destroyed by explosive rounds ([[Valley of Darkness]]). At the same time, the Cylon virus infects other systems of the ship and shuts down parts of the [[CIC]]'s control. Tigh orders ''Galactica''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[marines]] not to defend the gun magazines, but to try to keep the Centurions from reaching [[Auxiliary Fire Control]] and [[Aft Damage Control]], wary that the Cylons would attempt to vent the ship's air to neutralize the crew and turn the ship's guns on the unarmed Fleet to destroy them. Marine forces, lead by Sergeant [[Hadrian]] and Lee Adama manage to destroy the boarding party before they can reach their targets.

Apollo begins preparations to rescue the downed Raptor crew from Kobol, and leads a team with two Raptors (one piloted by [[Racetrack]]) as part of the rescue team.

== Raptor Team Rescue ==

Shortly after [[Socinus]] is euthanized due to his mortal injuries and [[Tarn]] is cut down by Centurion fire, [[Crashdown]] and the Raptor team locate a group of three Cylon Centurions building an anti-aircraft battery using parts from their downed Heavy Raider in order to destroy any ''Galactica'' [[SAR|search-and-rescue]] craft sent to find the downed Raptor crew ([[Fragged]]). The battery is linked to a [[DRADIS]] dish set up some distance from the battery.

Crashdown develops a foolhardy plan to attack the command and control console at the launcher by flanking the Centurions and sending [[Cally]] on a possibly suicidal diversionary feint. As the team prepares their attack, they discover there are five Centurions, not the three initially counted. Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] points out that the two Centurions that guarded the dish had moved to the launcher, leaving the DRADIS disk completely unguarded. If the team could cover the one kilometer distance to the dish quick enough to destroy it, Tyrol reasoned, they could render the launcher tactically worthless while not having to face the Cylons head on. As the team heard the sonic booms caused by Raptors entering the atmosphere, indicating their rescuers would be arriving soon, Crashdown panicked and would hear nothing of Tyrol's new plan. Crashdown orders Specialist [[Cally]] to create the distraction anyway, but she refuses in fear. When Crashdown threatens to kill Cally for disobeying a direct order, [[Gaius Baltar]] shoots him in the back, killing him instantly.

The gunshot alerts the Centurions to the team's presence and open fire on their position. Tyrol's team flee for the DRADIS dish. Fighting a running battle with the Centurions, it became a race to see who could get to the dish first. [[Seelix]] is shot in the leg, but dragged to safety by Cally. The Cylon battery fires on the incoming Raptors, but Chief Tyrol successfully destroys the DRADIS dish, which breaks the missiles' lock on the Raptors. Just as Tyrol and his team are making their last stand, the Centurions are destroyed by missiles from Apollo's Raptor. The survivors are rescued and returned to ''Galactica''.

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[[de:Kampf um Kobol]]

Battle of Kobol (TRS)

2006-10-23T05:09:50Z

Khaosworks: /* Scattering of the Fleet */

:''For information on a battle over [[Kobol]] from the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], see [[Battle of Kobol (TOS)]].''

{{Battle Data
|name=Battle of Kobol
|image=DoctorStrangeLove.jpg
|description=Cylon basestar destroyed by a tactical nuke, in orbit of Kobol
|conflict=[[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon war]]
|date=[[Re-Imagined Series Timeline|Day 50-51]]
|place=[[Kobol]], nearby space
|result=[[Colonial]] victory
|combatant1=Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet]]
|combatant2=[[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]
|co1=Commander [[William Adama]], Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
|co2=Unknown †
|strength1=[[Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica]]'' 18-35 [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] 6 [[Raptor|Raptors]] 
1 captured [[Raider]] (on Caprica) 
1 captured [[Heavy Raider]] (on Caprica)
|strength2=2 [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]] [[Raiders]] At least one [[Heavy Raider]] 
Fixed anti-aircraft emplacement (on Kobol) 
At least 5 Cylon Centurions on Kobol 
10 Cylon Centurions on ''Galactica''
|shiploss1=2 Raptors
|shiploss2=1 Basestar over Kobol, Unknown number of Raiders, 1 Heavy Raider
|casualties1=10 killed on [[Raptor 3]], 4 on [[Raptor 1]], 11 killed in Cylon boarding of the ''Galactica''. Total [[Survivor Count]] decremented by 34, excluding Cylon agents
|casualties2=Loss of at least 5 Centurions on Kobol Loss of 10 Centurions on ''Galactica''
|prev=[[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]]
|next=[[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]]
}}
The '''Battle of Kobol''' occurs when battlestar ''Galactica'' stumbles on the mythological human homeworld of [[Kobol]] and attempts to discover its secrets.

== Discovery ==

During a reconnaissance flight, pilots [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] and [[Crashdown]] return to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' with information on an unusual habitable planet. Investigation of the ruins and features of the planet confirm that ''Galactica'' had discovered, by accident, the original human homeworld of [[Kobol]], detailed extensively in the [[Sacred Scrolls|scriptures]] from the [[Lords of Kobol]]. Commander [[William Adama]] directs three [[Raptor]]s to conduct a thorough surface survey of the planet, particularly to note whether the Fleet should settle there.

As the Raptors complete their Jump near Kobol, they are attacked by [[Raider]]s. One Raptor is destroyed and a second [[FTL|Jumps]] away to safety. A third Raptor is shot and crash-lands on Kobol.

Since the orbiting [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] prohibits a rescue of the surviving crashed Raptor crew, [[Kara Thrace]] suggests the use of the captured Raider ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]) to sneak near the basestar with a nuclear warhead, leaving it there to destroy the capital ship and as many Raiders as possible. Adama agrees to the plan. However, intervention by President [[Laura Roslin]] with Thrace leads the pilot to disobey orders and to divert the Raider (while on a test flight) to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] to seek an artifact known as the [[Arrow of Apollo]]. This change requires Adama to direct Lt. Valerii to fly a Raptor with a [[Cylon transponder]] to the basestar to carry out the nuclear attack, with [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] as her [[ECO]].

The Raptor enters the orbit of Kobol undetected, but a problem with weapon deployment forces Boomer to land within the basestar in a habitable area to manually deploy the weapon. Valerii encounters several [[Cylon agent|Cylon]] copies of herself while in the basestar, whose presence apparently activates more of her latent Cylon programming. The copies detect the nuclear warhead, but nevertheless allow it to detonate. The basestar is destroyed, clearing the way for a rescue operation and leaving a small party of Cylons stranded near the ruins of the [[Opera House]] on Kobol. This was perhaps the first time during the entire [[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon War]] that Colonial forces successfully destroy a Cylon basestar.

As Adama congratulates Valerii, the Cylon agent pulls out her pistol and shoots the Commander twice at point-blank range ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Scattering of the Fleet ==

In the chaos caused by the shooting, another basestar suddenly appears. Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] assumes command of ''Galactica'', with Captain [[Aaron Kelly]] serving as his second in command. As medical staff attended to the seriously-wounded William Adama, Valerii is taken to the [[brig]]. Caught by surprise, Tigh orders the Fleet to jump to its [[Emergency Jump Coordinates| emergency jump coordinates]] pre-planned by standard procedure by Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]]. However, ''Galactica'' herself has incorrect jump coordinates and finds herself separated from the rest of the Fleet ([[Scattered]]). The ship cannot return to its original location to obtain the Fleet's location by conventional procedure; this would take hours, and the basestar would likely destroy the ship in far less time. Gaeta devises a way to determine the fleet location faster by temporarily networking several ship [[computers]] to process data faster. Knowing that the Cylons would attempt to infiltrate the network, Gaeta places four software firewalls in place to slow the progress of the expected infection.

The downed Raptor crew on Kobol, lead by [[Crashdown]] attends as best they can to their injured. They are later attacked by [[Cylon Centurion]]s and flee to the woods for cover.

''Galactica'' returns to its previous location and is immediately attacked by the waiting Cylon fleet. Lee Adama (on parole) leads a squadron of Vipers in defense of the ship. During the attack, a [[Heavy Raider]] heads for ''Galactica''. [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] attack the craft, which veered into ''Galactica'''s firing solution and crash-lands into the starboard [[flight pod]], depressurizing it (it had been converted as a [[Galactica Museum|museum area]] in preparation for the ship's decommissioning and was unused for flight operations at the time). Gaeta successfully obtains the Fleet's coordinates, but not before a Cylon virus infects one of the networked systems, unknown to the command staff. Gaeta disconnects the network a moment later. ''Galactica'' [[FTL|Jumps]] to reunite with the civilian fleet.

== Cylon Boarding ==

The crashed Heavy Raider in ''Galactica's'' starboard landing pod deploys 10 specially-armored Cylon Centurions, which could only be destroyed by explosive rounds ([[Valley of Darkness]]). At the same time, the Cylon virus infects other systems of the ship and shuts down parts of the [[CIC]]'s control. Tigh orders ''Galactica''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[marines]] not to defend the gun magazines, but to try to keep the Centurions from reaching [[Auxiliary Fire Control]] and [[Aft Damage Control]], wary that the Cylons would attempt to vent the ship's air to neutralize the crew and turn the ship's guns on the unarmed Fleet to destroy them. Marine forces, lead by Sergeant [[Hadrian]] and Lee Adama manage to destroy the boarding party before they can reach their targets.

Apollo begins preparations to rescue the downed Raptor crew from Kobol, and leads a team with two Raptors (one piloted by [[Racetrack]]) as part of the rescue team.

== Raptor Team Rescue ==

Shortly after [[Socinus]] is euthanized due to his mortal injuries and [[Tarn]] was cut down by Centurion fire, [[Crashdown]] and the Raptor team locate a group of three Cylon Centurions building an anti-aircraft battery using parts from their downed Heavy Raider in order to destroy any ''Galactica'' [[SAR|search-and-rescue]] craft sent to find the downed Raptor crew ([[Fragged]]). The battery is linked to a [[DRADIS]] dish set up some distance from the battery.

Crashdown develops a foolhardy plan to attack the command and control console at the launcher by flanking the Centurions and sending [[Cally]] on a possibly suicidal diversionary feint. As the team prepares their attack, they discover there are five Centurions, not the three initially counted. Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] points out that the two Centurions that guarded the dish had moved to the launcher, leaving the DRADIS disk completely unguarded. If the team could cover the one kilometer distance to the dish quick enough to destroy it, Tyrol reasoned, they could render the launcher tactically worthless while not having to face the Cylons head on. As the team heard the sonic booms caused by Raptors entering the atmosphere, indicating their rescuers would be arriving soon, Crashdown panicked and would hear nothing of Tyrol's new plan. Crashdown orders Specialist [[Cally]] to create the distraction anyway, but she refuses in fear. When Crashdown threatens to kill Cally for disobeying a direct order, [[Gaius Baltar]] shoots him in the back, killing him instantly.

The gunshot alerts the Centurions to the team's presence and open fire on their position. Tyrol's team flee for the DRADIS dish. Fighting a running battle with the Centurions, it became a race to see who could get to the dish first. [[Seelix]] is shot in the leg, but dragged to safety by Cally. The Cylon battery fires on the incoming Raptors, but Chief Tyrol successfully destroys the DRADIS dish, which breaks the missiles' lock on the Raptors. Just as Tyrol and his team are making their last stand, the Centurions are destroyed by missiles from Apollo's Raptor. The survivors are rescued and returned to ''Galactica''.

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Battle of Kobol (TRS)

2006-10-23T05:09:16Z

Khaosworks: tenses

:''For information on a battle over [[Kobol]] from the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], see [[Battle of Kobol (TOS)]].''

{{Battle Data
|name=Battle of Kobol
|image=DoctorStrangeLove.jpg
|description=Cylon basestar destroyed by a tactical nuke, in orbit of Kobol
|conflict=[[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon war]]
|date=[[Re-Imagined Series Timeline|Day 50-51]]
|place=[[Kobol]], nearby space
|result=[[Colonial]] victory
|combatant1=Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet]]
|combatant2=[[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]
|co1=Commander [[William Adama]], Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
|co2=Unknown †
|strength1=[[Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica]]'' 18-35 [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] 6 [[Raptor|Raptors]] 
1 captured [[Raider]] (on Caprica) 
1 captured [[Heavy Raider]] (on Caprica)
|strength2=2 [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]] [[Raiders]] At least one [[Heavy Raider]] 
Fixed anti-aircraft emplacement (on Kobol) 
At least 5 Cylon Centurions on Kobol 
10 Cylon Centurions on ''Galactica''
|shiploss1=2 Raptors
|shiploss2=1 Basestar over Kobol, Unknown number of Raiders, 1 Heavy Raider
|casualties1=10 killed on [[Raptor 3]], 4 on [[Raptor 1]], 11 killed in Cylon boarding of the ''Galactica''. Total [[Survivor Count]] decremented by 34, excluding Cylon agents
|casualties2=Loss of at least 5 Centurions on Kobol Loss of 10 Centurions on ''Galactica''
|prev=[[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]]
|next=[[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]]
}}
The '''Battle of Kobol''' occurs when battlestar ''Galactica'' stumbles on the mythological human homeworld of [[Kobol]] and attempts to discover its secrets.

== Discovery ==

During a reconnaissance flight, pilots [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] and [[Crashdown]] return to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' with information on an unusual habitable planet. Investigation of the ruins and features of the planet confirm that ''Galactica'' had discovered, by accident, the original human homeworld of [[Kobol]], detailed extensively in the [[Sacred Scrolls|scriptures]] from the [[Lords of Kobol]]. Commander [[William Adama]] directs three [[Raptor]]s to conduct a thorough surface survey of the planet, particularly to note whether the Fleet should settle there.

As the Raptors complete their Jump near Kobol, they are attacked by [[Raider]]s. One Raptor is destroyed and a second [[FTL|Jumps]] away to safety. A third Raptor is shot and crash-lands on Kobol.

Since the orbiting [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] prohibits a rescue of the surviving crashed Raptor crew, [[Kara Thrace]] suggests the use of the captured Raider ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]) to sneak near the basestar with a nuclear warhead, leaving it there to destroy the capital ship and as many Raiders as possible. Adama agrees to the plan. However, intervention by President [[Laura Roslin]] with Thrace leads the pilot to disobey orders and to divert the Raider (while on a test flight) to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] to seek an artifact known as the [[Arrow of Apollo]]. This change requires Adama to direct Lt. Valerii to fly a Raptor with a [[Cylon transponder]] to the basestar to carry out the nuclear attack, with [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] as her [[ECO]].

The Raptor enters the orbit of Kobol undetected, but a problem with weapon deployment forces Boomer to land within the basestar in a habitable area to manually deploy the weapon. Valerii encounters several [[Cylon agent|Cylon]] copies of herself while in the basestar, whose presence apparently activates more of her latent Cylon programming. The copies detect the nuclear warhead, but nevertheless allow it to detonate. The basestar is destroyed, clearing the way for a rescue operation and leaving a small party of Cylons stranded near the ruins of the [[Opera House]] on Kobol. This was perhaps the first time during the entire [[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon War]] that Colonial forces successfully destroy a Cylon basestar.

As Adama congratulates Valerii, the Cylon agent pulls out her pistol and shoots the Commander twice at point-blank range ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]).

== Scattering of the Fleet ==

In the chaos caused by the shooting, another basestar suddenly appears. Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] assumes command of ''Galactica'', with Captain [[Aaron Kelly]] serving as his second in command. As medical staff attended to the seriously-wounded William Adama, Valerii is taken to the [[brig]]. Caught by surprise, Tigh orders the Fleet to jump to its [[Emergency Jump Coordinates| emergency jump coordinates]] pre-planned by standard procedure by Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta|Gaeta]]. However, ''Galactica'' herself has incorrect jump coordinates and finds herself separated from the rest of the Fleet ([[Scattered]]). The ship cannot return to its original location to obtain the Fleet's location by conventional procedure; this would take hours, and the basestar would likely destroy the ship in far less time. Gaeta devises a way to determine the fleet location faster by temporarily networking several ship [[computers]] to process data faster. Knowing that the Cylons would attempt to infiltrate the network, Gaeta places four software firewalls in place to slow the progress of the expected infection.

The downed Raptor crew on Kobol, lead by [[Crashdown]] attends as best they could to their injured. They are later attacked by [[Cylon Centurion]]s and flee to the woods for cover.

''Galactica'' returns to its previous location and is immediately attacked by the waiting Cylon fleet. Lee Adama (on parole) leads a squadron of Vipers in defense of the ship. During the attack, a [[Heavy Raider]] heads for ''Galactica''. [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] attack the craft, which veered into ''Galactica'''s firing solution and crash-lands into the starboard [[flight pod]], depressurizing it (it had been converted as a [[Galactica Museum|museum area]] in preparation for the ship's decommissioning and was unused for flight operations at the time). Gaeta successfully obtains the Fleet's coordinates, but not before a Cylon virus infects one of the networked systems, unknown to the command staff. Gaeta disconnects the network a moment later. ''Galactica'' [[FTL|Jumps]] to reunite with the civilian fleet.

== Cylon Boarding ==

The crashed Heavy Raider in ''Galactica's'' starboard landing pod deploys 10 specially-armored Cylon Centurions, which could only be destroyed by explosive rounds ([[Valley of Darkness]]). At the same time, the Cylon virus infects other systems of the ship and shuts down parts of the [[CIC]]'s control. Tigh orders ''Galactica''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[marines]] not to defend the gun magazines, but to try to keep the Centurions from reaching [[Auxiliary Fire Control]] and [[Aft Damage Control]], wary that the Cylons would attempt to vent the ship's air to neutralize the crew and turn the ship's guns on the unarmed Fleet to destroy them. Marine forces, lead by Sergeant [[Hadrian]] and Lee Adama manage to destroy the boarding party before they can reach their targets.

Apollo begins preparations to rescue the downed Raptor crew from Kobol, and leads a team with two Raptors (one piloted by [[Racetrack]]) as part of the rescue team.

== Raptor Team Rescue ==

Shortly after [[Socinus]] is euthanized due to his mortal injuries and [[Tarn]] was cut down by Centurion fire, [[Crashdown]] and the Raptor team locate a group of three Cylon Centurions building an anti-aircraft battery using parts from their downed Heavy Raider in order to destroy any ''Galactica'' [[SAR|search-and-rescue]] craft sent to find the downed Raptor crew ([[Fragged]]). The battery is linked to a [[DRADIS]] dish set up some distance from the battery.

Crashdown develops a foolhardy plan to attack the command and control console at the launcher by flanking the Centurions and sending [[Cally]] on a possibly suicidal diversionary feint. As the team prepares their attack, they discover there are five Centurions, not the three initially counted. Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] points out that the two Centurions that guarded the dish had moved to the launcher, leaving the DRADIS disk completely unguarded. If the team could cover the one kilometer distance to the dish quick enough to destroy it, Tyrol reasoned, they could render the launcher tactically worthless while not having to face the Cylons head on. As the team heard the sonic booms caused by Raptors entering the atmosphere, indicating their rescuers would be arriving soon, Crashdown panicked and would hear nothing of Tyrol's new plan. Crashdown orders Specialist [[Cally]] to create the distraction anyway, but she refuses in fear. When Crashdown threatens to kill Cally for disobeying a direct order, [[Gaius Baltar]] shoots him in the back, killing him instantly.

The gunshot alerts the Centurions to the team's presence and open fire on their position. Tyrol's team flee for the DRADIS dish. Fighting a running battle with the Centurions, it became a race to see who could get to the dish first. [[Seelix]] is shot in the leg, but dragged to safety by Cally. The Cylon battery fires on the incoming Raptors, but Chief Tyrol successfully destroys the DRADIS dish, which breaks the missiles' lock on the Raptors. Just as Tyrol and his team are making their last stand, the Centurions are destroyed by missiles from Apollo's Raptor. The survivors are rescued and returned to ''Galactica''.

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New Caprica City

2006-10-23T05:05:52Z

Khaosworks: Leoben and Kara's apartment was part of the cells, as seen in Exodus, Part II.

[[Image:NewCapricaCity.jpg|thumb|right|New Caprica City|250px]]
'''New Caprica City''' is the small colony that the Fleet makes on [[New Caprica]]. Its population is 39,192 as of "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]". The city is essentially a shanty town of makeshift buildings and tents with a small number of buildings built from grounded ships. The city's market place and commons area/athlectic courts are located near the interstellar ships. ''[[Colonial One]]'', the ''[[Astral Queen]]'', an [[Atmospheric shuttle]] and a [[Colonial Shuttle (TOS)|Colonial Shuttle]] sit just outside of town. Former President [[Laura Roslin]] ran the city's elementary school.

By "[[Occupation]]", Cylon occupation has caused some changes on the face of the city. While the humans still live in a shanty town of tents and a makeshift marketplace, the Cylons have built some permanent structures. The largest of these is the [[New Caprica Detention Center]], a concrete structure and walled compound which dominates the city's skyline. [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Colonel Saul Tigh]] were imprisoned in a subterranean cell in the prison's basement.

There appear to be larger cells in blocks around the prison compound which are barred by gates. One of these is converted into a furnished apartment occupied by [[Leoben Conoy]] and [[Kara Thrace]], which Conoy uses in an attempt to force Thrace into a domestic existence and loving him.

There is also a power distribution station whose generators were destroyed in the second suicide bombing of the Insurgency, wiping out power to half of the city. In addition to these structures, numerous watchtowers have been constructed in points throughout the city. At night, search lights on these towers illuminate the streets and tents below.

The city is abandoned by both the Cylons and the colonials in the wake of the ''Galactica'''s return and the [[Battle of New Caprica]] in "[[Exodus, Part II]]".

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New Caprica City

2006-10-23T05:00:58Z

Khaosworks: updated up to Exodus, Part II

[[Image:NewCapricaCity.jpg|thumb|right|New Caprica City|250px]]
'''New Caprica City''' is the small colony that the Fleet makes on [[New Caprica]]. Its population is 39,192 as of "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]". The city is essentially a shanty town of makeshift buildings and tents with a small number of buildings built from grounded ships. The city's market place and commons area/athlectic courts are located near the interstellar ships. ''[[Colonial One]]'', the ''[[Astral Queen]]'', an [[Atmospheric shuttle]] and a [[Colonial Shuttle (TOS)|Colonial Shuttle]] sit just outside of town. Former President [[Laura Roslin]] ran the city's elementary school.

By "[[Occupation]]", Cylon occupation has caused some changes on the face of the city. While the humans still live in a shanty town of tents and a makeshift marketplace, the Cylons have built some permanent structures. The largest of these is the [[New Caprica Detention Center]], a concrete structure and walled compound which dominates the city's skyline. [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Colonel Saul Tigh]] were imprisoned in a subterranean cell in the prison's basement. Around the prison compound are apartments occupied by Cylons, including [[Leoben Conoy]] and [[Kara Thrace]]. The apartment of Conoy and Thrace is essentially concrete and utilitarian, barred off in the hallways by gates. However, the one occupied by Thrace and Conoy is furnished and contains artwork, and is more comfortable than the human tents. There is also a power distribution station whose generators were destroyed in the second suicide bombing of the Insurgency, wiping out power to half of the city. In addition to these structures, numerous watchtowers have been constructed in points throughout the city. At night, search lights on these towers illuminate the streets and tents below.

The city is abandoned by both the Cylons and the colonials in the wake of the ''Galactica'''s return and the [[Battle of New Caprica]] in "[[Exodus, Part II]]".

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New Caprica City

2006-10-23T05:00:07Z

Khaosworks: updated up to Exodus, Part II

[[Image:NewCapricaCity.jpg|thumb|right|New Caprica City|250px]]
'''New Caprica City''' is the small colony that the Fleet makes on [[New Caprica]]. Its population is 39,192 as of "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]". The city is essentially a shanty town of makeshift buildings and tents with a small number of buildings built from grounded ships. The city's market place and commons area/athlectic courts are located near the interstellar ships. ''[[Colonial One]]'', the ''[[Astral Queen]]'', an [[Atmospheric shuttle]] and a [[Colonial Shuttle (TOS)|Colonial Shuttle]] sit just outside of town. Former President [[Laura Roslin]] ran the city's elementary school.

In [[Occupation]], Cylon occupation has caused some changes on the face of the city. While the humans still live in a shanty town of tents and a makeshift marketplace, the Cylons have built some permanent structures. The largest of these is the [[New Caprica Detention Center]], a concrete structure and walled compound which dominates the city's skyline. [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Colonel Saul Tigh]] were imprisoned in a subterranean cell in the prison's basement. Around the prison compound are apartments occupied by Cylons, including [[Leoben Conoy]] and [[Kara Thrace]]. The apartment of Conoy and Thrace is essentially concrete and utilitarian, barred off in the hallways by gates. However, the one occupied by Thrace and Conoy is furnished and contains artwork, and is more comfortable than the human tents. There is also a power distribution station whose generators were destroyed in the second suicide bombing of the Insurgency, wiping out power to half of the city. In addition to these structures, numerous watchtowers have been constructed in points throughout the city. At night, search lights on these towers illuminate the streets and tents below.

The city is abandoned by both the Cylons and the colonials in the wake of the ''Galactica'''s return and the [[Battle of New Caprica]] in "[[Exodus, Part II]]".

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New Caprica City

2006-10-23T04:59:00Z

Khaosworks: updated up to Exodus, Part II

[[Image:NewCapricaCity.jpg|thumb|right|New Caprica City|250px]]
'''New Caprica City''' is the small colony that the Fleet makes on [[New Caprica]]. Its population is 39,192 as of "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]". The city is essentially a shanty town of makeshift buildings and tents with a small number of buildings built from grounded ships. The city's market place and commons area/athlectic courts are located near the interstellar ships. ''[[Colonial One]]'', the ''[[Astral Queen]]'', an [[Atmospheric shuttle]] and a [[Colonial Shuttle (TOS)|Colonial Shuttle]] sit just outside of town. Former President [[Laura Roslin]] ran the city's elementary school.

In [[Occupation]], Cylon occupation has caused some changes on the face of the city. While the humans still live in a shanty town of tents and a makeshift marketplace, the Cylons have built some permanent structures. The largest of these is the [[New Caprica Detention Center]], a concrete structure and walled compound which dominates the city's skyline. [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Colonel Saul Tigh]] were imprisoned in a subterranean cell in the prison's basement. Around the prison compound are apartments occupied by Cylons, including [[Leoben Conoy]] and [[Kara Thrace]]. The apartment of Conoy and Thrace is essentially concrete and utilitarian, barred off in the hallways by gates. However, the one occupied by Thrace and Conoy is furnished and contains artwork, and is more comfortable than the human tents. There is also a power distribution station whose generators were destroyed in the second suicide bombing of the Insurgency, wiping out power to half of the city. In addition to these structures, numerous watchtowers have been constructed in points throughout the city. At night, search lights on these towers illuminate the streets and tents below.

The city is abandoned by both the Cylons and the colonials in the wake of the ''Galactica'''s return and the [[Battle of New Caprica]] in "[[Exodus, Part 2]]".

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Battle of New Caprica

2006-10-23T03:32:35Z

Khaosworks: rm whitespace

{{Battle Data
| name= Battle of New Caprica
| image= BONC.jpg
| description=
| conflict=[[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon War]]
| date=
| place=Near [[New Caprica]] space; on New Caprica
| result=Successful retrieval of [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]], deposition of the [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] administration, [[Hera]] is captured by Cylons
| combatant1=Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet]]
| combatant2=[[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]
| co1=Admiral [[William Adama]], Commander [[Lee Adama]]
| co2=(Unknown)
| strength1=Battlestars ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' and ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', [[Blue Squadron (RDM)|Blue Squadron]], Resistance Team
| strength2=Four [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]], associated [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]], [[Heavy Raider]]s, Ground Occupation Force
| shiploss1=Battlestar ''Pegasus''
| shiploss2=At least three basestars
| casualties1=Unknown, hundreds of people including [[Maya]]
| casualties2=Unknown, High
| prev=[[Battle of the Binary Star System]]
| next=(Unknown)
}}
[[Galactica type battlestar|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' launches a daring mission to occupy the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon force's]] attention as the majority of the Colonial citizens escaped from Cylon occupation on [[New Caprica]].

Greatly outnumbered, Admiral [[William Adama]] enacts an elaborate plan that relies on a squadron of [[Raptor]]s (with a [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] escort squadron) to fire a series of [[swallow]]s that collectively mimic the EM signatures of the Colonial battlestars. After firing the swallows, the Raptors retreat, luring several [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]] further from the fight. The Cylons are deceived temporarily by the false readings.

On [[New Caprica]], [[Samuel Anders]] and the resistance team detonate dozens of bombs as a feigned attack by Colonial forces. The people evacuate per their fire-drill training, but escape to the various grounded ships of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], which prepare their engines and [[FTL]] drives to depart. Many people, however, become pinned down by [[Cylon Centurion|Centurion]] fire.

Admiral Adama performs an extremely risky move. He orders ''Galactica'' to conduct an intra-atmosphere jump, escaping the detection of the basestars. While in freefall, it launchs the remnants of [[Blue Squadron (RDM)|Blue Squadron]], which performs hit-and-run attacks on the Cylons on the ground, those in [[Guard towers|observation towers]], and interdicting the few Raiders operating near the surface. Before the battlestar impacts the surface, ''Galactica'' performs a second jump, back into space. Stress from the vibration and heat of entry have heavily taxed the structure of the battlestar. While two [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] were expected to engage the ''Galatica'' during wargames, four basestars move in to dispose of ''Galactica.''

With the Vipers destroying targets on the ground and in the air in vicinity of New Caprica City, those previously pinned down are able to board their ships. Simultaneously, Colonial Marines and resistance members assault the detention center, freeing Starbuck and the other detainees.

Before long, ''Galatica's'' FTL drives and maneuvering thrusters are disabled, and the port side of the ship reaches its structural limits. Upon hearing that the FTL drive was disabled, Admiral Adama tells his crew, "Then that's it. It's been an honor." Battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' then arrives with its forward batteries blazing, scoring several hits that severely damage or destroy one basestar. Commander [[Lee Adama]] orders his battlestar towards the basestars to give ''Galactica'' time to repair its FTL drive and escape. Meanwhile, most of the civilian ships become airborne and jump away.

Commander Adama directs his ship to a position between the basestars targetting ''Galactica'', in an effort to draw fire away from her. Admiral Adama infers from the absence of Vipers from the ''Pegasus'' that its Vipers are guarding the remaining ships of the Fleet at the rendezvous point and that ''Pegasus'' is on a one-way trip. While ''Pegasus'' "was taking a hell of a pounding," the crew of ''Galactica'' is able to bring its FTL back on line. Admiral Adama thus orders his crew to land its birds and prepare to jump.

With ''Pegasus'' taking phenomenal damage, Commander Adama orders all hands to abandon ship, using standby Raptors to jump away from the battle. He ensures that the weapons were set to autofire and that the ship is on a collision course with one of the basestars before departing. The damaged, unmanned ''Pegasus'' collides into one basestar, destroying both. The remnants of ''Pegasus's'' starboard flight pod collides with another of the remaining basestars, destroying it.

''[[Colonial One]]'' is the last ship to leave the planet, with [[Laura Roslin]] back in her old chair in place of the deposed president, [[Gaius Baltar]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

Meanwhile, Baltar and [[Caprica Six]] attempt to stop [[D'anna Biers]] from activating a nuclear device. After the Cylons lost control of the ground situation, the majority of the agents left on a [[Heavy Raider]] and left Biers with the responsibility of activating a nuclear device to "clean up"; however, she can't find it. Baltar is prepared to kill her, but instead they hear a baby crying and upon investigation, find [[Maya]] dead in the streets with [[Hera]] in her arms. D'anna then takes possession of her as Baltar and Six look on.

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== Battle Imagery ==
=== Raptors and Vipers ===
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=== ''Galactica'''s Surprise Attack ===
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=== ''Pegasus's'' Suicide Run ===
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James Lyman

2006-10-22T16:35:17Z

Khaosworks:

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|age=
|colony=
|birthname= James Lyman
|nickname= Jammer
|seen= Litmus
|death=
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|marital status=Single
|role=Member of the [[New Caprica Police]]
|rank=Specialist (Colonial Fleet), Captain ([[NCP]])
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'''James "Jammer" Lyman''' is a member of the [[New Caprica Police]] who was formerly a deckhand assigned to [[Deck Crew 5]] under Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]. While on [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] he was often seen working alongside other crewmembers [[Socinus]] and [[Cally]] in the hangar bay.

When President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] makes it public knowledge that Cylons are now capable of [[Cylon agent|mimicking human form]], paranoia spreads throughout the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]]. Cally and Socinus argue with Lyman that everyone shouldn't become suspicious and stop trusting one another or the Cylons get what they want. Lyman tells his shipmates that the time for that kind of thinking is in the past and it's "every man for himself now" ([[Litmus]]).

When [[Cylon Centurion]]s board ''Galactica'' ([[Valley of Darkness]]), Captain [[Lee Adama]] and a team of Marines find Lyman hiding unharmed in a small arms locker room filled with crewmen the Cylons killed.

Lyman also scoffs Tyrol's attempt at constructing the [[Blackbird]], though he later reconsiders his decision and aids the deck crew and Tyrol in finishing the prototype, signing his nickname on the hull ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).

As with most of the Fleet, Lyman settles on [[New Caprica]]. After the Cylons occupy the planet, Lyman becomes a member of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. He appears to very religious, and objects to hiding weapons in the [[temple]]. Lyman is picked up by the Cylon authorities and asked about the events of the temple by a copy of [[Number Five]]. He later joined the [[New Caprica Police]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance]]).

Jammer survived the suicide bombing carried out by [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] at the NCP graduation ceremony and later participated in the rounding up of "insurgents" ordered by the Cylons. Like all NCP personnel, he wore a mask to conceal his identity, and not even Tyrol was aware of Jammer's new position. Jammer had a slight change of heart when the Cylons ordered the execution of 200 detainees, including Cally. At the execution site, just before the firing squad of [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] appeared, he cut Cally's bonds and told her to run. The Centurions were then fired on by Tyrol and his fellow insurgents, who rescued the detainees ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Jammer somehow escaped capture or shooting by Tyrol's squad, and was seen again as New Caprica City was being evacuated during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]). [[Tom Zarek]] gave him a sidearm and told him to guard [[Laura Roslin]] as she made her way back to ''[[Colonial One]]''. Jammer was on board the Presidential liner when it took off to rendezvous with the Fleet.

== Notes ==
*It has been [[Cylon agent speculation|speculated]] that Lyman may be one of the remaining [[Cylon agent|humanoid Cylon]] models to be revealed.
*For some time, it was not entirely clear whether "Jammer" is the character's actual name or his nickname (like Tyrol being called "Chief" most of the time in casual conversation) because no one ever formally addressed him by name and rank, i.e. "Specialist Jammer" was never been spoken aloud. Curiously, he signed his name on the [[Blackbird]] simply as "Jammer".
*Lyman is distinct amongst the deck crew of ''Galactica'' in that while essentially all of the other deck crew characters so far shown wear orange jumpsuits, Lyman's jumpsuit is yellow (this makes him easy to spot for fans who might not know who he is). This is probably done to add to the realism of the Re-imagined Series, because real-world aircraft carrier deck crew personnel wear color-coded jumpsuits according to their assigned tasks. On real-world US Navy carriers, yellow-suited deck crewmen are charged with aircraft handling, catapult gear, and plane direction duties. The US Navy actually doesn't use an orange-suit designation, but the closest to that are red-suited personel, who are charged with ordnance, crash and salvage duties.

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James Lyman

2006-10-22T16:32:38Z

Khaosworks:

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'''James "Jammer" Lyman''' is a member of the [[New Caprica Police]] who was formerly a deckhand assigned to [[Deck Crew 5]] under Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]. While on [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] he was often seen working alongside other crewmembers [[Socinus]] and [[Cally]] in the hangar bay.

When President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] makes it public knowledge that Cylons are now capable of [[Cylon agent|mimicking human form]], paranoia spreads throughout the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]]. Cally and Socinus argue with Lyman that everyone shouldn't become suspicious and stop trusting one another or the Cylons get what they want. Lyman tells his shipmates that the time for that kind of thinking is in the past and it's "every man for himself now" ([[Litmus]]).

When [[Cylon Centurion]]s board ''Galactica'' ([[Valley of Darkness]]), Captain [[Lee Adama]] and a team of Marines find Lyman hiding unharmed in a small arms locker room filled with crewmen the Cylons killed.

Lyman also scoffs Tyrol's attempt at constructing the [[Blackbird]], though he later reconsiders his decision and aids the deck crew and Tyrol in finishing the prototype, which he signs the hull of using his nickname ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).

As with most of the Fleet, Lyman settles on [[New Caprica]]. After the Cylons occupy the planet, Lyman becomes a member of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. He appears to very religious, and objects to hiding weapons in the [[temple]]. Lyman is picked up by the Cylon authorities and asked about the events of the temple by a copy of [[Number Five]]. He later joined the [[New Caprica Police]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance]]).

Jammer survived the suicide bombing carried out by [[Tucker Clellan|Duck]] at the NCP graduation ceremony and later participated in the rounding up of "insurgents" ordered by the Cylons. Like all NCP personnel, he wore a mask to conceal his identity, and not even Tyrol was aware of Jammer's new position. Jammer had a slight change of heart when the Cylons ordered the execution of 200 detainees, including Cally. At the execution site, just before the firing squad of [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] appeared, he cut Cally's bonds and told her to run. The Centurions were then fired on by Tyrol and his fellow insurgents, who rescued the detainees ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Jammer somehow escaped capture or shooting by Tyrol's squad, and was seen again as New Caprica City was being evacuated during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]). [[Tom Zarek]] gave him a sidearm and told him to guard [[Laura Roslin]] as she made her way back to ''[[Colonial One]]''. Jammer was on board the Presidential liner when it took off to rendezvous with the Fleet.

== Notes ==
*It has been [[Cylon agent speculation|speculated]] that Lyman may be one of the remaining [[Cylon agent|humanoid Cylon]] models to be revealed.
*For some time, it was not entirely clear whether "Jammer" is the character's actual name or his nickname (like Tyrol being called "Chief" most of the time in casual conversation) because no one ever formally addressed him by name and rank, i.e. "Specialist Jammer" was never been spoken aloud. Curiously, he signed his name on the [[Blackbird]] simply as "Jammer".
*Lyman is distinct amongst the deck crew of ''Galactica'' in that while essentially all of the other deck crew characters so far shown wear orange jumpsuits, Lyman's jumpsuit is yellow (this makes him easy to spot for fans who might not know who he is). This is probably done to add to the realism of the Re-imagined Series, because real-world aircraft carrier deck crew personnel wear color-coded jumpsuits according to their assigned tasks. On real-world US Navy carriers, yellow-suited deck crewmen are charged with aircraft handling, catapult gear, and plane direction duties. The US Navy actually doesn't use an orange-suit designation, but the closest to that are red-suited personel, who are charged with ordnance, crash and salvage duties.

[[Category: A to Z]] [[Category: Characters]] [[Category: RDM]]

James Lyman

2006-10-22T16:29:26Z

Khaosworks: updated up to Exodus, Part II

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'''James "Jammer" Lyman''' is a member of the [[New Caprica Police]] who was formerly a deckhand assigned to [[Deck Crew 5]] under Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]. While on [[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]] he was often seen working alongside other crewmembers [[Socinus]] and [[Cally]] in the hangar bay.

When President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] makes it public knowledge that Cylons are now capable of [[Cylon agent|mimicking human form]], paranoia spreads throughout the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]]. Cally and Socinus argue with Lyman that everyone shouldn't become suspicious and stop trusting one another or the Cylons get what they want. Lyman tells his shipmates that the time for that kind of thinking is in the past and it's "every man for himself now" ([[Litmus]]).

When [[Cylon Centurion]]s board ''Galactica'' ([[Valley of Darkness]]), Captain [[Lee Adama]] and a team of Marines find Lyman hiding unharmed in a small arms locker room filled with crewmen the Cylons killed.

Lyman also scoffs Tyrol's attempt at constructing the [[Blackbird]], though he later reconsiders his decision and aids the deck crew and Tyrol in finishing the prototype, which he signs the hull of using his nickname ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).

As with most of the Fleet, Lyman settles on [[New Caprica]]. After the Cylons occupy the planet, Lyman becomes a member of the [[New Caprica Resistance]]. He appears to very religious, and objects to hiding weapons in the [[temple]]. Lyman is picked up by the Cylon authorities and asked about the events of the temple by a copy of [[Number Five]]. He later joined the [[New Caprica Police]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance]]).

Jammer survived the suicide bombing carried out by [[Duck]] at the NCP graduation ceremony and later participated in the rounding up of "insurgents" ordered by the Cylons. Like all NCP personnel, he wore a mask to conceal his identity, and not even Tyrol was aware of Jammer's new position. Jammer had a slight change of heart when the Cylons ordered the execution of 200 detainees, including Cally. At the execution site, just before the firing squad of [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] appeared, he cut Cally's bonds and told her to run. The Centurions were then fired on by Tyrol and his fellow insurgents, who rescued the detainees.

Jammer somehow escaped capture or shooting by Tyrol's squad, and was seen again as New Caprica City was being evacuated during the [[Battle of New Caprica]] (''[[Exodus, Part II]]''). [[Tom Zarek]] gave him a sidearm and told him to guard [[Laura Roslin]] as she made her way back to ''[[Colonial One]]''. Jammer was on board the Presidential liner when it took off to rendezvous with the Fleet.

== Notes ==

*It has been [[Cylon agent speculation|speculated]] that Lyman may be one of the remaining [[Cylon agent|humanoid Cylon]] models to be revealed.
*For some time, it was not entirely clear whether "Jammer" is the character's actual name or his nickname (like Tyrol being called "Chief" most of the time in casual conversation) because no one ever formally addressed him by name and rank, i.e. "Specialist Jammer" was never been spoken aloud. Curiously, he signed his name on the [[Blackbird]] simply as "Jammer".
*Lyman is distinct amongst the deck crew of ''Galactica'' in that while essentially all of the other deck crew characters so far shown wear orange jumpsuits, Lyman's jumpsuit is yellow (this makes him easy to spot for fans who might not know who he is). This is probably done to add to the realism of the Re-imagined Series, because real-world aircraft carrier deck crew personnel wear color-coded jumpsuits according to their assigned tasks. On real-world US Navy carriers, yellow-suited deck crewmen are charged with aircraft handling, catapult gear, and plane direction duties. The US Navy actually doesn't use an orange-suit designation, but the closest to that are red-suited personel, who are charged with ordnance, crash and salvage duties.

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Exodus, Part II

2006-10-22T16:15:18Z

Khaosworks: /* Summary */

{{Episode Data
| title= Exodus, Part II
| image=TighAdamaReunion.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 4
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
| writer= [[Bradley Thompson]] [[David Weddle]]
| story=
| director= [[Félix Enríquez Alcalá]]
| production= 304
| rating=
| US airdate= 2006-10-20
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population=
| prev= [[Exodus, Part I]]
| next= [[Collaborators]]
}}

== Overview ==

:''Commander [[Lee Adama]] of the battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)| Pegasus]]'' has serious doubts about the success of the [[New Caprica]] rescue mission by ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''. On New Caprica, [[Saul Tigh]] decides the consequences for his [[Ellen Tigh |wife's]] betrayal of [[The Resistance | the Resistance]]. Aboard ''Galactica'', Admiral [[William Adama]] executes a dramatic rescue plan.''

== Summary ==

*On ''Pegasus'', [[Lee Adama]] and [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]] talk of ''[[Galactica]]'s'' mission. Adama worries heavily that Admiral Adama's mission will fail and of what future responsibilities he may have as the leader of the rest of mankind. His wife tells him to not give up hope.
*On New Caprica, [[Samuel Anders]] confronts [[Saul Tigh]] about [[Ellen Tigh|his wife Ellen's]] betrayal and tells him that either Tigh "takes care" of Ellen, or someone else less sympathetic will do so.
*Ellen Tigh explains her recent actions, that she would do absolutely anything to save Saul, including betraying the resistance. Tigh consoles her and provides her a drink when she asks. She falls unconscious, her drink having been poisoned by her husband. He says that he loves her, rests his head on her corpse, and weeps.
*On ''[[Colonial One]]'', [[Gaius Baltar]] tells the Cylons that they have failed in their experiment and suggests the Cylons simply leave. A [[Number Three|Three]] voices the concern that one day the descendants of mankind might exact vengeance upon the Cylons, should they be left to their own devices.
*Suddenly, dozens of explosions can be felt and seen. The [[Battle of New Caprica]] has begun.
*Anders and the resistance team has set a series of explosions that mimic a Colonial attack and causes chaos. [[Tory Foster]] commands a team of section leaders in the evacuation and orders [[Maya]] to head for her ship with [[Hera|Isis]].
*Anders and a large group of resistance fighters retrieve weapons from beneath the [[Pyramid (RDM)|Pyramid]] court to rescue the detainees in the [[New Caprica Detention Center|detention center]].
*In space above New Caprica, ''Galactica'' deploys a squadron of Raptors and Vipers. The Raptors launch [[swallow]]s to mimic the EM signature of two Colonial battlestars. The Cylons pick them up and fall for the ruse, moving two basestars with their Raiders away from the planet.
*When [[Leoben Conoy]] leaves the residence inside the Detention Center to aid with the fighting, he keeps [[Kara Thrace]] inside. She assaults him and tries to escape, but he knocks her unconscious.
*[[Tom Zarek]] tasks [[James Lyman|Jammer]] to protect [[Laura Roslin]] as she makes her way to ''Colonial One''.
*At the entrance to the shipyard, where the Cylons keep the grounded Colonial vessels, a team under Tigh and [[Galen Tyrol]] are pinned down by [[Cylon Centurion]]s.
*The Cylons detect the decoy drones, but ''Galactica'' jumps deep into the planet's atmosphere and launches its remaining Vipers. Before colliding with the ground, the ship jumps back into space. The Vipers begin to attack targets on the ground and clear the way.
*As others are freed from the Detention Center, Anders finds his unconscious wife and carries her away, but when Thrace awakens, she goes back to retrieve [[Kacey]].
*The battle is turning against ''Galactica''. Her FTL drives are down, weapons are offline and there is heavy structural damage from the atmospheric entry. Four Cylon basestars are closing in and the battlestar is soon bombarded from all sides with no hope of survival. At that moment ''Pegasus'' joins the battle, Lee Adama having disobeyed his father's orders. He opens fire with the forward batteries and destroys one basestar in the opening salvo.
*The Cylons realize that they have lost and decide to evacuate the planet. [[Number Three]] volunteers to stay behind and set off the nuclear weapon that was left in the city for such a contingency. She offers Baltar a place with the Cylons and leaves.
*The Colonial ships initiate intra-atmosphere [[FTL|jumps]] from New Caprica as soon as they become airborne.
*''Pegasus'' is heavily bombarded by missiles, having left all of her Vipers back with the rest of the civilian Fleet. Admiral Adama realizes that his son has planned a one-way mission for ''Pegasus'', and orders recall of ''Galactica's'' fighters.
*On ''Colonial One'', [[Felix Gaeta]] accuses Baltar at gunpoint of having betrayed everyone. Gaeta admits his guilt in idealistically believing in Baltar's initial vision, but realized in the end that Baltar was only thinking about himself. Baltar admits his own guilt and begs Gaeta to shoot him. However, Gaeta relents, giving Baltar a final chance to redeem himself: stop Three from setting off the nuclear bomb.
*With ''Pegasus'' dying, Lee Adama orders everyone to abandon ship. He sets the ship [[CBDR]] with a basestar as the last of the crew leaves in Raptors. ''Pegasus’'' collision destroys another basestar. The remains of ''Pegasus’'' starboard [[flight pod]] collides with and destroy another basestar.
*Kara Thrace retrieves Kacey, but Conoy has returned and confronts her. She appears to give in to his demands, says "I love you," and kisses him. However, Thrace uses the diversion to stab him. She picks up Kacey and leaves with Anders.
*Three searches [[Dodona Selloi]]'s tent, but the [[oracle]] has left. Outside, [[Caprica-Six]] and Baltar find Hera next to [[Maya]]'s body, still alive. Three arrives, asks to hold the child, and leaves with her. [[Caprica-Six]] says Three no longer intends to detonate the nuke, then leaves the planet with Baltar.
*Laura Roslin and a group of resistance fighters enter the now abandoned ''Colonial One'' and are the last ship to leave the planet.
*On ''Galactica'', many people are reunited as Tyrol immediately takes charge of ushering the incoming refugees. When Thrace shows Kacey to Tyrol, another woman walks by and recognizes the girl as her daughter, whom the Cylons had taken away. The mother thanks Thrace for rescuing Kacey. Thrace is shocked by the relevation that Kacey is not her daughter after all, but gives her up.
*Admiral Adama welcomes Tigh back aboard, and tells him he brought everyone back. Tigh quietly replies, "[[Ellen Tigh|Not all of them]]." The colonists in ''Galactica's'' [[hangar deck]] begin chanting "A-dam-a, A-dam-a..." and carry the admiral on their shoulders. Adama turns to see Tigh wandering off, numbed with grief.
*Tory Foster tells Roslin that neither Maya nor Hera can be found, and it seems likely neither made it off the planet. Foster apologizes, but Roslin muses that this was part of something bigger than them.
*Admiral Adama shaves off his mustache and returns to a fully staffed [[CIC]], aboard the now very loud, bustling corridors of ''Galactica''.

== Questions ==

*With Baltar seemingly missing at the conclusion of the episode, will his Vice President, Tom Zarek, become President? Or will Roslin somehow become President?
**Tom Zarek refused to collaborate with the Cylons after Baltar's surrender.
**It is possible that Roslin has the legal authority to resume the Presidency. On what legal basis this can be done remains to be seen. A previously secret Quorum vote may be the most likely means of investing her with the office.
**Roslin addresses Zarek as "Mr. Vice President," and recognizes his authority ([[Precipice]])
***It is a polite formality to refer to someone by the highest office they've attained (e.g., ex-Presidents are addressed as ''Mr. President'') It is not clear if her terminology implies recognition of authority.
**Zarek did not evacuate onboard ''Colonial One'' (the de facto seat of government power), while he admired (and seemed to accept) Roslin's insistence that she intended to do so.
***Zarek likely opted to evacuate aboard the ''[[Astral Queen]],'' as he has previously served as a leader and representative of that vessel and her passengers.
*How many humans died on New Caprica during the occupation and escape? Will it be in the thousands?
**There were around 39,000 civilians and military veterans and retirees, like Saul Tigh, trying to get off New Caprica.
*With ''Pegasus'' destroyed, will Tyrol's [[Blackbird|fighter construction]] continue?
*Since ''Galactica'' now has ''Pegasus''' [[Viper]] and [[Raptor]] compliment in addition to its own, will the starboard flight pod now be pressed back into service?
**The flight pod may have already been restored back to operational status, as it is implied that the Vipers launched in New Caprica's atmosphere were from the starboard pod.
***However, at the end of the rescue operation, Chief Tyrol is ushering people away from the landed Raptors, informing civilians they will be staying in the starboard pod until they are returned to their permanent ships. Considering that the ''Galactica'' now has to bring onboard ''Pegasus''' air wing, this may overcrowd the port flight pod, thus necessitating the use of the starboard pod for flight operations. While this also hints that the starboard pod may be operational, it is also contradictory that civilians would be berthed in a potentially dangerous flight deck, even if only temporarily.
**With the former crew of ''Pegasus'' onboard ''Galactica'' now, the ship has something close to (if not equal to or more than) its standard crew size. In any case, military operations should be much smoother and repairs to the ship in general are that much more feasible.
*What will become of Lee Adama? Will he resume his duties as [[CAG]] of ''Galactica''?
**As Lee Adama outranks Colonel Tigh, XO of ''Galactica'' is an equally likely position. Likewise, as no such officer has been shown to date, the younger Adama might be officially assigned as the CO of the combined ''Galactica''/''Pegasus'' Marine contingent. Equally plausible is that he may assume his earlier duties of military liaison to the civilian government on a full-time basis.
*Will Tigh become a disagreeable drunk, as he was before Ellen Tigh first boarded ''Galactica''?
*What was left behind:
**In order to build New Caprica City, the ships were at least partially stripped and supplies were offloaded. What remains on board them?
**Are there any people alive remaining on New Caprica after the liberation, either willingly or due to wounds?
**Since people brought food and medicine to New Caprica before the occupation, will there be shortages in the fleet?
***Very likely. Food and medicine shortages will play a role in future episodes.
****As noted in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", there were already medicine shortages on New Caprica when the Cylons invaded. The Cylons themselves may have aided in resupply, as Dr. [[Cottle]] appears to have more advanced medical tools and facilities in "[[Exodus, Part I]]."
*If the civilian ships only needed to get a few hundred feet off the ground in order to use their FTL drives and escape, why do ''Galcatica'' and ''Pegasus'' need to engage the basestars? Is this just to keep the Raiders, Heavy Raiders, and missiles from being used on the civilian fleet, on the surface below? (Note: it is not in dispute that having ''Galactica'' launch its fighters within the atmosphere is important so they could attack the Centurions and few raiders there.)
**As with the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the Cylons could destroy the city with a single nuclear bomb in orbit. The plan appears to force the Cylons to be too distracted by the battlestar's offenses (Raptors at first, then the battlestar itself) to worry about the actions on the planet. ''Galactica'' jumps intra-atmosphere to minimize detection by the basestars.
*Will Gaeta be the target of persecution or assassination as a collaborator? Or will people believe in him when he is found out to be the secret informant?
*Will [[Cally Tyrol]] identify Jammer as the NCP officer who released her, based on his voice?
*''Galactica's'' escape seems questionable. Most or all of ''Galactica's'' Vipers were launched during the atmospheric maneuver. Later, after the four basestars start pummelling ''Galactica'', its situation is dire, facing explosive decompressions and with its FTL disabled. Adama says, "Then that's it. It's been an honor." ''Pegasus'' immediately appears and uses its superior weaponry to engage the basestars, destroying one in the first volley, so Adama orders the FTL to be fixed. Soon, Helo reports that most of the civilian ships have jumped, that FTL is back online, and that ''Pegasus'' is taking "a hell of a pounding." Adama orders his Vipers to land so that ''Galactica'' can leave. The next shot is Vipers landing, but weren't they all at the surface? How long does it take a Viper to climb into orbit? Real-world atmospheric escapes take several minutes, at least. How much damage were the basestars and battlestars doing to each other in this time?
**We aren't seeing events in real-time. Several minutes can lie between scenes that appear to happen right after another. Sometimes it is simply necessary to compress things in order to fit them into one episode.
**There may be several key differences at play between an escape from New Caprica's atmosphere and a real-world atmospheric departure, such as a lower [[Wikipedia:Karman line|atmospheric boundary]], more powerful thrusters on the Vipers, etc.
*Why would the Cylons leave the grounded ships fueled with [[tylium]], thus allowing them to jump away?
**One of the Cylons in an earlier episode discusses their resources being overstretched already. They may not have been able to afford committing more basestars to the defense of New Caprica.
*Why did Kara Thrace wait so long to stab Leoben? She could have done it before even kissing him.
**Possibly, Thrace intended to insult to injury by her quick betrayal, but also, she needed to ensure that the Cylon agent was completely off his guard.

== Analysis ==

Either the scenes aren't in order or Baltar is not aware of what is going on. In the Gaeta-Baltar scene, Baltar says, "The Cylons have a nuke in this complex. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is getting off this planet alive unless I stop D'Anna." But this is after most of the civilian ships have already jumped.

Further, until Hera is discovered by Baltar, Three is still looking to set off the nuke -- even though it is clear that the colonists are all long gone.

It's possible Three wasn't seeking to set off the nuke, but said she was as a ruse to go seek answers about her premonitions concerning Hera.

In general, the Cylons seem to have left the planet implausibly underguarded. Considering the strategic nature of the site, as well as the well-known fact that two battlestars remained at large, one would have expected the Cylons to have an overwhelming amount of protection for the planet -- perhaps dozens of basestars.

Further, it is hard to believe that the Cylons were not keeping closer tabs on the whereabouts of the launch keys.

== Notes ==

* There is also a TOS comic named ''[[Exodus!]]''
* Both parts of "Exodus" were originally planned as one episode. However, it was quickly realized that the story was far too large for one episode and it was split in two. This happened before with "[[Scattered]]" and "[[Valley of Darkness]]" and "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Resurrection Ship]]." It also helped save money because the construction of New Caprica, the extensive location shooting, the number of actors, as well as the special effects for "Exodus, Part II" were very expensive and the production was over budget.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Discussing the failure of the occupation:''
:'''Number Three''': What would you have us do, Gaius?
:'''Gaius Baltar''': Leave. Pack up your centurions, and go. Please. Go.
:'''Number Three''': And then what? What would you do if we really just left you here? You'd live out your lives in peace and never trouble yourselves with thoughts of us again? Or would you raise your children with stories of the Cylon, the mechanical slaves who once did your bidding, only to turn against you? Killers who committed genocide against your race, the occupiers of this city until we just ran away? Would you tell them to tell the story to their children, and to their childrens' children, and nurse a dream of vengeance down through the years so that one day they could just go out into the stars and hunt the Cylon once more?
:'''Gaius Baltar''': Blood for blood ...has to stop one day.

*''Roslin heads to Colonial One''
:'''Roslin''': My ship's up there.
:'''Zarek''': You sure have a sense of the dramatic.

*''Adama comes to accept ''Galactica'''s end''
:'''Admiral Adama:''' Then that's it. It's been an honor.

*''After Hearing Pegasus Has Joined Galactica
:'''Admiral William Adama''': Damn You, Lee ...Thank You, Lee.

*''As the two Adamas reunite after the battle:''
:'''Admiral William Adama''': I guess you didn't understand my orders.
:'''Commander Lee Adama''': I never could read your handwriting.

*''Adama welcomes Col. Tigh back to ''Galactica''
:'''Adama:''' You did it, Saul. You brought them back.
:'''Tigh:''' Not all of them.

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally Tyrol]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]

== References ==
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[[de:Exodus, Part II]]

Exodus, Part II

2006-10-22T03:36:09Z

Khaosworks:

{{Episode Data
| title= Exodus, Part II
| image=TighAdamaReunion.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 4
| guests= [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
| writer= [[Bradley Thompson]] [[David Weddle]]
| story=
| director= [[Félix Enríquez Alcalá]]
| production= 304
| rating=
| US airdate= 2006-10-20
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population=
| prev= [[Exodus, Part I]]
| next= [[Collaborators]]
}}

== Overview ==

:''Commander [[Lee Adama]] of the battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)| Pegasus]]'' has serious doubts about the success of the [[New Caprica]] rescue mission by ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''. On New Caprica, [[Saul Tigh]] decides the consequences for his [[Ellen Tigh |wife's]] betrayal of [[The Resistance | the Resistance]]. Aboard ''Galactica'', Admiral [[William Adama]] executes a dramatic rescue plan.''

== Summary ==

*On ''Pegasus'', [[Lee Adama]] and [[Anastasia Dualla|Dualla]] talk of ''[[Galactica]]'s'' mission. Adama worries heavily that Admiral Adama's mission will fail and of what future responsibilities he may have as the leader of the rest of mankind. His wife tells him to not give up hope.
*On New Caprica, [[Samuel Anders]] confronts [[Saul Tigh]] about [[Ellen Tigh|his wife Ellen's]] betrayal and tells him that either Tigh "takes care" of Ellen, or someone else less sympathetic will do so.
*Ellen Tigh explains her recent actions, that she would do absolutely anything to save Saul, including betraying the resistance. Colonel Tigh consoles her and provides her a drink when she asks. She falls unconscious, her drink having been poisoned by her husband. He says that he loves her, rests his head on her corpse, and weeps.
*On ''[[Colonial One]]'', [[Gaius Baltar]] tells the Cylons that they have failed in their experiment and suggests the Cylons simply leave. A [[Number Three|Three]] voices the concern that one day the descendants of mankind might excact vengeance upon the Cylons, should they be left to their own devices.
*Suddenly, dozens of explosions can be felt and seen. The [[Battle of New Caprica]] has begun.
*Anders and the resistance team has set a series of explosions that mimic a Colonial attack and causes chaos. [[Tory Foster]] commands a team of section leaders in the evacuation and orders [[Maya]] to head for her ship with [[Hera|Isis]].
*Anders and a large group of resistance fighters retrieve weapons from beneath the [[Pyramid (RDM)|Pyramid]] court to rescue the detainees in the [[New Caprica Detention Center|detention center]].
*In space above New Caprica, ''Galactica'' deploys a squadron of Raptors and Vipers. The Raptors launch [[swallow]]s to mimic the EM signature of two Colonial battlestars. The Cylons pick them up and fall for the ruse, moving two basestars with their Raiders away from the planet.
*When [[Leoben Conoy]] leaves the home, he keeps [[Kara Thrace]] inside. She assaults him and tries to escape, but he knocks her unconscious.
*[[Tom Zarek]] tasks [[James Lyman|Jammer]] to protect [[Laura Roslin]] as she makes her way to ''Colonial One''.
*At the entrance to the shipyard, where the Cylons keep the grounded Colonial vessels, a team under Tigh and [[Galen Tyrol]] are pinned down by [[Cylon Centurion]]s.
*The Cylons detect the decoy drones, but ''Galactica'' jumps deep into the planet's atmosphere and launches its remaining Vipers. Before colliding with the ground, the ship jumps back into space. The Vipers begin to attack targets on the ground and clear the way.
*As others are freed from the Detention Center, Anders finds his unconscious wife and carries her away, but when Thrace awakens, she goes back to retrieve [[Kacey]].
*The battle is turning against ''Galactica''. Her FTL drives are down, weapons are offline and there is heavy structural damage from the atmospheric entry. Four Cylon basestars are closing in and the battlestar is soon bombarded from all sides with no hope of survival. At that moment ''Pegasus'' joins the battle, Lee Adama having disobeyed his father's orders. He opens fire with the forward batteries and destroys one basestar in the opening salvo.
*The Cylons realize that they have lost and decide to evacuate the planet. [[Number Three]] volunteers to stay behind and set off a nuclear weapon. She offers Baltar a place with the Cylons.
*The Colonial ships are leaving New Caprica by jumping from within the atmosphere as soon as they become airborne. ''Pegasus'' is getting heavily bombarded, having left all of her Vipers back with the rest of the civilian Fleet. Admiral Adama realizes that his son has planned a one-way mission and orders to retrieve his own fighters.
*On ''Colonial One'', [[Felix Gaeta]] points a gun at Baltar and accuses him of having betrayed everyone. Gaeta says that while he had been an idealist who believed in New Caprica, Baltar only thought about himself. Baltar admits to be an egotist and asks Gaeta to shoot him. Gaeta relents, giving Baltar a final chance to redeem himself: stop Three from setting off the nuke.
*With ''Pegasus'' dying, Lee Adama orders everyone to abandon the ship in evacuation Raptors he had standing by. He sets the ship on a collision course with a basestar, destroying it. The remains of ''Pegasus'' scatter, the port [[flight pod]] colliding with and destroying another basestar.
*Kara retrieves Kacey, but Conoy has returned and confronts her. She appears to give in to his demands, says "I love you," and kisses him. However, Kara uses the diversion to stab him. She picks up Kacey and leaves with Anders.
*Three searches [[Dodona Selloi]]'s tent, but the [[oracle]] has left. Outside, [[Caprica-Six]] and Baltar find Hera next to [[Maya]]'s body, still alive. Three arrives, asks to hold the child, and leaves with Hera. [[Caprica-Six]] says Three no longer intends to detonate the nuke, then leaves the planet with Baltar.
*Laura Roslin and a group of resistance fighters enter the now abandoned ''Colonial One'' and are the last ship to leave the planet.
*On ''Galactica'', many people are reunited. When Kara shows Kacey to the Chief, another woman walks by and recognizes the girl as her daughter, whom the Cylons had taken away. The mother thanks Kara for rescuing Kacey. Kara is shocked by the relevation that Kacey is not her daughter after all, but gives her up.
*Admiral Adama welcomes Tigh back aboard, and tells him he brought everyone back. Tigh quietly replies, "[[Ellen Tigh|Not all of them]]." The colonists in ''Galactica's'' [[hangar deck]] begin chanting "A-dam-a, A-dam-a..." and carry the admiral on their shoulders. Adama turns to see Tigh wandering off, numbed with grief.
*Tory Foster tells Roslin that neither Maya nor Hera can be found, and it seems likely neither made it off the planet. Foster apologizes, but Roslin muses that this was part of something bigger than them.
*Admiral Adama shaves off his mustache and returns to a fully staffed CIC.

== Questions ==

*With Baltar seemingly missing at the conclusion of the episode, will his Vice President, Tom Zarek, become President? Or will Roslin somehow become President?
**Tom Zarek refused to collaborate with the Cylons after Baltar's surrender.
**It is possible that Roslin has the legal authority to resume the Presidency. On what legal basis this can be done remains to be seen. A previously secret Quorum vote may be the most likely means of investing her with the office.
**Roslin addresses Zarek as "Mr. Vice President," and recognizes his authority ([[Precipice]])
***It is a polite formality to refer to someone by the highest office they've attained (e.g., ex-Presidents are addressed as ''Mr. President'') It is not clear if her terminology implies recognition of authority.
**Zarek did not evacuate onboard ''Colonial One'' (the de facto seat of government power), while he admired (and seemed to accept) Roslin's insistence that she intended to do so.
***Zarek likely opted to evacuate aboard the ''[[Astral Queen]],'' as he has previously served as a leader and representative of that vessel and her passengers.
*How many humans died on New Caprica during the occupation and escape? Will it be in the thousands?
**There were around 39,000 civilians and military veterans and retirees, like Saul Tigh, trying to get off New Caprica.
*With ''Pegasus'' destroyed, will Tyrol's [[Blackbird|fighter construction]] continue?
*Since ''Galactica'' now has ''Pegasus''' [[Viper]] and [[Raptor]] compliment in addition to its own, will the starboard flight pod now be pressed back into service?
**It might alredy be in service after a year of free time to convert it back. Also the vipers are lauched out of the starboard pod when ''Galactica'' is falling.
**With the former crew of the ''Pegasus'' onboard ''Galactica'' now, the ship has something close to (if not equal to or more than) its standard crew size. In any case, military operations should be much smoother and repairs to the ship in general are that much more feasible.
*What will become of Lee Adama? Will he resume his duties as [[CAG]] of ''Galactica''?
**As Lee Adama outranks Colonel Tigh, XO of ''Galactica'' is an equally likely position. Likewise, as no such officer has been shown to date, the younger Adama might be officially assigned as the CO of the combined ''Galactica''/''Pegasus'' Marine contingent.
*Will Tigh become a disagreeable drunk, as he was before Ellen Tigh first boarded ''Galactica''?
*What was left behind:
**In order to build New Caprica City, the ships were at least partially stripped and supplies were offloaded. What remains on board them?
**Are there any people alive remaining on New Caprica after the liberation, either willingly or due to wounds?
**Since people brought food and medicine to New Caprica before the occupation, will there be shortages in the fleet?
***Very likely. Food and medicine shortages will play a role in future episodes.
*If the civilian ships only needed to get a few hundred feet off the ground in order to use their FTL drives and escape, do ''Galcatica'' and ''Pegasus'' need to engage the basestars? Is this just to keep the Raiders, Heavy Raiders, and missiles from being used on the civilian fleet, on the surface below? (Note: it is not in dispute that having ''Galactica'' launch its fighters within the atmosphere is important so they could attack the centurions and few raiders there.)
**As with the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the Cylons could destroy the city with a single nuclear bomb in orbit. The plan appears to force the Cylons to be too distracted by the battlestar's offenses (Raptors at first, then the battlestar itself) to worry about the actions on the planet. ''Galactica'' jumps intra-atmosphere to minimize detection by the basestars.
*Will Gaeta be the target of persecution or assassination as a collaborator? Or will people believe in him when he is found out to be the secret informant?
*Will Cally Tyrol identify Jammer as the NCP officer who released her, based on his voice?

== Analysis ==

*''Galactica's'' escape seems questionable. Most or all of ''Galactica's'' Vipers were launched during the atmospheric maneuver. Later, after the four basestars start pummelling ''Galactica'', its situation is dire, facing explosive decompressions and with its FTL disabled. Adama says, "Then that's it. It's been an honor." ''Pegasus'' immediately appears and uses its superior weaponry to engage the basestars, destroying one in the first volley, so Adama orders the FTL to be fixed. Soon, Helo reports that most of the civilian ships have jumped, that FTL is back online, and that ''Pegasus'' is taking "a hell of a pounding." Adama orders his Vipers to land so that ''Galactica'' can leave. The next shot is Vipers landing, but weren't they all at the surface? How long does it take a Viper to climb into orbit? Real-world atmospheric escapes take several minutes, at least. How much damage were the basestars and battlestars doing to each other in this time?
**We aren't seeing events in real-time. Several minutes can lie between scenes that appear to happen right after another. Sometimes it is simply necessary to compress things in order to fit them into one episode.
**There may be several key differences at play between an escape from New Caprica's atmosphere and a real-world atmospheric departure, such as a lower [[Wikipedia:Karman line|atmospheric boundary]], more powerful thrusters on the Vipers, etc.
*Either the scenes aren't in order or Baltar is not aware of what is going on. In the Gaeta-Baltar scene, Baltar says, "The Cylons have a nuke in this complex. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is getting off this planet alive unless I stop D'Anna." But this is after most of the civilian ships have already jumped.

== Notes ==

* There is also a TOS comic named ''[[Exodus!]]''
* Both parts of "Exodus" were originally planned as one episode. However, it was quickly realized that the story was far too large for one episode and it was split in two. This happened before with "[[Scattered]]" and "[[Valley of Darkness]]" and "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I|Resurrection Ship]]." It also helped save money because the construction of New Caprica, the extensive location shooting, the number of actors, as well as the special effects for "Exodus, Part II" were very expensive and the production was over budget.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Discussing the failure of the occupation:''
:'''Number Three''': What would you have us do, Gaius?
:'''Gaius Baltar''': Leave. Pack up your centurions, and go. Please. Go.
:'''Number Three''': And then what? What would you do if we really just left you here? You'd live out your lives in peace and never trouble yourselves with thoughts of us again? Or would you raise your children with stories of the Cylon, the mechanical slaves who once did your bidding, only to turn against you? Killers who committed genocide against your race, the occupiers of this city until we just ran away? Would you tell them to tell the story to their children, and to their childrens' children, and nurse a dream of vengeance down through the years so that one day they could just go out into the stars and hunt the Cylon once more?
:'''Gaius Baltar''': Blood for blood ...has to stop one day.

*''Adama comes to accept ''Galactica'''s end''
:'''Admiral Adama:''' Then that's it. It's been an honor.

*''After Hearing Pegasus Has Joined Galactica
:'''Admiral William Adama''': Damn You, Lee ...Thank You, Lee.

*''As the two Adamas reunite after the battle:''
:'''Admiral William Adama''': I guess you didn't understand my orders.
:'''Commander Lee Adama''': I never could read your handwriting.

*''Adama welcomes Col. Tigh back to ''Galactica''
:'''Adama:''' You did it, Saul. You brought them back.
:'''Tigh:''' Not all of them.

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally Tyrol]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]

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Exodus, Part II

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== Overview ==
:''After the suicide bombing, the [[Cylons (RDM) |Cylons]] institute stricter controls on the human population on [[New Caprica]]. Aboard ''[[Galactica]]'', plans for the rescue from New Caprica move forward now that communication with the [[New Caprica Resistance|resistance]] has been established.''

== Summary ==
*[[Gaius Baltar]] ostensibly has [[Laura Roslin]] detained in a cell. He discusses the suicide bombings, after which he releases her.
*After [[Duck]]'s suicide bombing in an effort to kill Baltar, the Cylons round up random civilians, including [[Cally Tyrol]].
*The [[Leoben Conoy|Leoben copy]] that has imprisoned [[Kara Thrace]] introduces her to [[Kacey]], supposedly [[Hera|another]] Cylon-human hybrid fertilized by this Cylon's consciousness and using Thrace's [[The Farm|egg from her stolen ovary]]. Thrace immediately treats it as an "it."
*[[Felix Gaeta]] continues to give information to the resistance, although [[Galen Tyrol]] is unaware that Gaeta is his source. Tyrol believes Gaeta is a collaborator.
*Tyrol talks to Jammer about the situation with [[Cally Tyrol|his wife]], believing that people such as himself and Jammer will be lauded, while people like Gaeta will be strung up, causing feelings of regret in Jammer for his secret Cylon collaboration as an [[NCP]] member.
*Jammer asks [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] to release Cally Tyrol from prison. Boomer claims bureaucracy prevents her, but later visits Tyrol. [[Resistance (episode)|Their history]] only makes matters worse.
*Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] swears in [[Sharon Agathon]] as a Colonial officer and sends her to New Caprica as the resistance liaison. Commander [[Lee Adama]] objects to most of the plan, and is generally ignored by the planning team.
*Later, Commander Adama tries to convince his father that risking what's left of mankind to save those on New Caprica wasn't a call the admiral could make. Admiral Adama tells his son that he can stay with the Fleet with ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' on guard, but that he and ''Galactica'' must try to rescue the New Capricans.
*[[Saul Tigh]], Chief Tyrol, and [[Samuel Anders]] decide to meet Agathon at [[Breeder's Canyon]].
*[[Ellen Tigh]], threatened with more harm to her husband, tips off the Cylons to the rendezvous.
*Another damaging suicide bombing moves the Cylons to more drastic actions.
*The Cylons force Baltar to sign an execution order for 200 civilians, including [[Cally Tyrol]], Roslin and [[Tom Zarek]]. The detainees are transported outside the city.
*Kara Thrace continues to ignore Kacey in the apartment. When Thrace leaves to another room, she returns to find the child motionless in a pool of blood.
*As Kacey awakens in a hospital, Thrace is overjoyed, and takes Conoy's hand.
*After the truck of detainees stops and releases the prisoners to "stretch their legs," a masked [[Jammer]] cuts Cally Tyrol's bonds and tells her to run. As as she gets away, [[Cylon Centurion]]s appear to execute the detainees.
*Zarek pulls Roslin away from the front of the crowd.
*As Cally Tyrol runs through the forest, the sound of automatic gunfire rings out.
*After Sharon Agathon and Anders' teams meet and formulate their plans, they are soon ambushed by Centurions.

== Questions ==

*If [[Sharon Agathon]] is killed during her mission on [[New Caprica]], will she be able to download into a new body?
**While download is likely, Agathon would be immediately kept as an intelligence source.
*Where will [[Cally Tyrol]] be able to run to? She was ordered to face execution by the Colonial Government.
**Returning to the colony is probable, keeping out of sight, probably in the underground bunker where the [[wireless]] comm center is located.
*Why did the Cylons abandon their plan for a public execution?
**A public execution might have made matters worse, while [[Wikipedia:Forced disappearance|"disappearances"]] would allow for both an effective threat and plausible deniability.
*If viewers are to assume that the gunfire at the end of the episode is not from the Centurions, then who is firing?
** While one could speculate that the NCP opened fire on the Centurions, the next episode "[[Exodus, Part I]]" reveals that Tyrol learned of the planned execution of his wife as well as the location, and was able to organize an ambush.
*Is Gaeta showing rather unusual behavior? If so, how much will his role as "inside man" be affected?
**Gaeta is witnessing the oppression of humanity at the highest level from a man he once admired. It is probable that Gaeta's stress level is [[Flight of the Phoenix|again affecting his behavior]].
*What is the role of the five unseen Cylon models in the occupation? Are they present and simply remaining off-camera for the benefit of the audience? Have they attempted to hide themselves from the Colonials?
**{{spoiltext|According to interviews with Grace Park, Dean Stockwell, and Tricia Helfer, the remaining Cylons are so secret that even the seven models known to the audience don't know who the last five are. See the Talk article for more information.}}
**{{spoiltext|According to an [http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30381 interview] with Aaron Douglas and Tamoh Penikett, the remaining five models have all been [[Boxing|boxed]].}}
**It's also concievable that the Cylon is divided on the threat Humanity represents and the other 5 models believe they should be wiped out, or have there own seperate agendas like Leoben
*Why do no Leoben Conoy copies attend the meeting on ''Colonial One'' regarding the execution order?
**Conoy's motives on New Caprica appear to be entirely selfish—he is there for Kara Thrace only. No other copies have been witnessed on New Caprica to date.
*[[Cally Tyrol]] and [[Sharon Agathon]] both took their husbands' names upon marriage, as did [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Caroline Adama]] and [[Sesha Abinell]]. Are [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Kara Thrace]] now Anastasia Adama, and Kara Anders, respectively?
*What is the relationship between Caprica-Six's shooting and the reappearance of [[Cylon-Related_Hallucinations#Baltar.27s_Internal_Six|Baltar's Internal Six]]?
**It is possible that two events are not directly related. The reappearance was not immediate, but happened after [[Number Five]] and [[Cavil]] continued to threaten Baltar with death. Since Caprica-Six's support was gone, Baltar was under severe stress and thought that he might likely die. Internal-Six has shown a tendency to appear at those times, especially if Baltar's survival is at stake.
*On the topic of internal manifestations, what happened to Caprica-Six's Interal-Baltar? Will he ever show himself again? Has he dissapeared much like his counterpart in Baltar, now that the real-world Baltar is in Caprics-Six's midst?
*Now that the Lt. Sharon Agathon has landed on the surface of New Caprica, how can she be distinguished from other [[Number Eight]]s there?
**Other than her [[flight suit]], it remains unclear how [[Sharon Agathon]] will be distinguished from other [[Number Eight]]s. Admiral Adama confirmed that Cylon Centurions are not sentient, and may take instruction from Agathon because of her true nature.
*How will ''humans'' identify Sharon Agathon should she ever leave their sight? How, for example, can she safely return to ''[[Galactica]]''?
*How did Jammer identify the particular Eight he talked to as "Boomer?"
*If the Centurions are incapable of distinguishing between individual copies of a model, why would they fire on Sharon Agathon, who should be just another Eight to them?
**Agathon's back was turned to the Centurions at the time before the shooting began. They may not have registered her presence in the group. Also, her Colonial-issue flight suit may have given her away. No "legitimate" Eight on New Caprica would need to wear one.
* Why didn't Duck tell Tyrol that Jammer had joined the New Caprica Police?
**He may not have known until the graduation ceremony, since the members of the police force are secretive about their identities. Duck was also under great stress and may not have been thinking clearly.
*Did Kacey fall down the stairs or was she pushed?
*As Zarek wanted nothing to do with Baltar's puppet administration, who replaced him as Vice President?
**Given the potential for further dissidence and/or rebellion, did Baltar do away with the office of the Vice Presidency altogether?
*Given Zarek's imprisonment for four months, what of Zarek's various supporters? Do they still exist on New Caprica or on the ''[[Astral Queen]]''? If so, what of them?
*Is [[Kacey]] all that [[Leoben Conoy]] claims her to be?
**There is reason to believe that Conoy's claims are not true. As evidenced in the Miniseries and "[[Flesh and Bone]]," Conoy is a master manipulator specializing in lies, half-truths, misdirection, ommission and any other method he can think of to coerce people to do as he wants. Kacey could be an ordinary human. The farms were filled with male and female humans, so standard ''in vitro'' insemination is not improbable.
**The Cylon farms have had no success in procreation. Even if hybridization succeeded, it is unlikely that such a human/Cylon hybrid would be placed in such an unstable environment as they are highly valuable to the Cylons due to the astonishingly low success rate.

== Analysis ==
*Apparently a single Cylon agent copy can speak for his or her particular model<ref> The phrase "''We'' agree" is said by several models.</ref>. Interestingly, [[Caprica-Six]] fails to dissuade her "sisters" from voting to execute the dissidents.
**This consensus within the copies is done invisibly. Similar communication between Cylons of a single model has been witnessed in several prior episodes:
***In "[[The Farm]]", the copy of Simon which Kara Thrace encounters outside the facility shares the memories of the one she has recently killed, although insufficient time has passed for a resurrection of the type witnessed in "[[Downloaded]]".
***In "[[Home, Part II]]", [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)]] reveals to Galen Tyrol that she has some of the Boomer copy's memories.
***At the start of "[[Occupation]]", the [[Cavil]] model interrogating with Saul Tigh knows of Ellen's work to free him.
**This contact is apparently strictly voluntary. According to Caprica-Sharon in "[[Home, Part I]]", "I'm not wired in. It doesn't work like that," and her presence on New Caprica is not considered a security hazard.
*As one of the Cavils notes, adherence to the Cylon creed has become increasingly perfunctory. The Cylons seek the President's signature as a mere formality.
*If [[Leoben Conoy]]'s story is true, [[Kacey]] can't be older than 16 months<ref>As of this episode, it has been about 27 months since the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|fall of the Colonies]]. Kara Thrace's incarceration at the [[Farms|Farm]] on Caprica took place about two months after the fall of the Colonies.</ref>.
*As Ellen Tigh's actions seem as reprehensible as ever, her motivations this time around are rather more laudable. These two episodes seem to indicate that she truly does care for her husband.
*Cavil informs Ellen Tigh that they released Saul Tigh so that he may continue leading the resistance, thereby ensuring attacks against the Cylons, such as the two bombings that followed his release. These bombings and their results reinforce Cavil's argument that instilling fear and exerting total control over the population is the only viable solution.
**It also might be possible that the release of Tigh might play into the faction of Cylons who continue to hold a strong prejudice towards humans. Caprica-Six and Boomer are clearly shown to be a diminishing voice amongst the Cylon leadership as evidenced when [[Number Five]] shot Caprica-Six in the head. This faction of Cylons may very well be attempting to destroy the experiment that Caprica-Six and Boommer convinced the Cylon population to undergo.
*The Cylons' condemnation to suicide bombings is strikingly hypocritical, in light of the fact that a [[Number Five]] used the same tactic after boarding ''Galactica'' in "[[Litmus]]."
*Following the bombing of the power station, the Cylon leadership conducts a meeting with Gaius Baltar on ''Colonial One''. The camera makes a full clockwise sweep, revealing in order:
**An Eight
**Boomer
**A Cavil
**A Five
**A Three
**Caprica-Six
**Another Cavil
**Another Three (identifies herself as the one killed by [[Caprica-Six]] in "[[Downloaded]]")
**A [[Simon]]
**Another Five
**Two more Sixes
*Cavil introduces the idea of "stronger measures". Assenting, in order, are the second Three, Simon, the second Five, and the last two Sixes. Caprica-Six dissents. Neither Boomer nor the other Eight are consulted. Not present are any copies of Leoben Conoy nor any of the unrevealed five models.
*Baltar's strenuous insistence that "Nobody has been tortured" evokes United States President [[Wikipedia:George W. Bush|George W. Bush]]'s November 2005 statement that "We do not torture".

== Notes ==
*"[[Occupation]]/Precipice" was awarded the [[Awards and Honors|IGN.com Editor's choice award]], following a review in which it recieved a rating of 10/10.
*"Occupation" and "Precipice" were edited as one 2-hr episode with only one introduction. However, in the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] indicates the "beginning" of "Precipice" as the scene with Baltar and Roslin in the detention cell.
*In the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] states that references to "The Twist" and "The Swirl" are a homage to ''[[Wikipedia:Seinfeld |Seinfeld]]''. The episode in question is "[[Wikipedia:The Fusilli Jerry |The Fusilli Jerry]]."
*Felix Gaeta's given name, first revealed in "[[Final Cut]]," is spoken out loud for the first time.
*Caprica-Valerii has married Karl Agathon and taken his last name. She continues to be confined to her cell, but it has been decorated and furnished. Ironically enough, she still calls him "Helo."
*Sharon Agathon and William Adama have continued to develop the rapport which they established in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]."
*[[Number Three]]'s claim that Caprica-Six's assault on her was the first case of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in their history is false. The model known as Boomer destroyed an [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II|entire basestar filled with other Fives]], and there are several other incidents throughout the series.
*Ironically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six in the head shortly after Three's statement. Cavil indicates, however, that she won't be "boxed," as Caprica feared in "[[Downloaded]]."
*The same [[Number Three]] consciousness that is killed in "[[Downloaded]]" by Caprica-Six is present as well, referencing the incident; it is this same Three who questions Six regarding her love of Baltar.
*The apparent shooting of the captives and Cally Tyrol's escape at the end of the episode are an homage to ''[[Wikipedia:The Great Escape|The Great Escape]]''.
*Baltar's Internal-Six appears only after Caprica-Six is shot in the head.
*This episode has the second highest number of guest stars. Only the [[Miniseries]] had more credited stars.
*[[Lee Adama]] stated that there were about 2000 civilians that were on board Fleet ships when they escaped New Caprica, which would mean that after accounting for an unspecified number of military personnel (and an unspecified number of said personnel that were left on New Caprica), at least 5500 people were killed in the destruction of [[Cloud 9]] as well as the other ships destroyed by the nuclear warhead in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]."
*Another four humans are killed in the suicide bombing at the power substation this episode. It is unknown whether or not this figure includes the bomber. Additionally, 23 Cylons are critically wounded; 14 of them are euthanized. Almost half the city is left without power, with repair estimates standing at a minimum of two weeks.
*We finally learn the role of [[Tom Zarek]] in the Baltar administration: he was indeed Baltar's running mate, and was elected Vice President in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]". (This was implied in the last three episodes of season two, but not stated explicitly). He refused to be party to the Cylon occupation and was detained shortly thereafter, until his execution was ordered in this episode.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Discussing suicide bombings:''
:'''Galen Tyrol''': This is crazy. You know, we need to figure out whose side we're on.
:'''Saul Tigh''': Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

*''After being arrested, held without charge and carted to a remote location:''
:'''Tom Zarek''': Laura.. That election last year. You tried to steal it, didn't you?
:'''Laura Roslin''': Yes, Tom. I did.
:'''Tom Zarek''': (laughs) Ah... I wish you'd gone through with it.
:'''Laura Roslin''': Me too.

*''Talking in a cell:''
:'''Cally''': ...frak you Sharon, you stupid frakked-up toaster. How many times do I have to shoot you anyway?

*''After being slapped by Roslin for accussing her of working for the Cylons:''
:'''Saul Tigh''': You see, little things like that they don't matter anymore. Fact, not too frakking much really matters anymore. I got one job here lady, and one job only. To disrupt the Cylons, make them worry about the ant hill they stirred up down here so they're distracted and out of position when the old man shows up in orbit. The bombings, they got the Cylons' attention, they really got their attention. And I am not giving that up.
:'''Laura Roslin''': We are talking about people blowing themselves up.
:'''Tigh''': You know, sometimes I think that you've got ice water in those veins. And other times, I just think that you're just a naive little school teacher. I've sent men on suicide missions in two wars now, and let me tell you something. It don't make a godsdamn bit of difference whether they're riding in a Viper or walking out onto a parade ground. In the end they're just as dead. (pauses) So, take your piety, and your moralizing, and your high-minded principles, and stick 'em somewhere safe until you're off the rock and sitting in your nice, cushy chair on Colonial One again. (stands) I've got a war to fight (leaves).

*''As the Cylons try to force Baltar to sign the execution order, following Number Five's shooting of Capirca-Six in the head:''
:'''Baltar''': Oh, God.
:'''Cavil''': She'll be back...
:'''Cavil''': ... but if he pulls that trigger now, you won't.

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol|Cally Tyrol]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
*[[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Cottle]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
*[[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Cavil]]
*[[Erica Cerra]] as [[Maya]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
*[[Christian Tessier]] as [[Tucker Clellan|Tucker "Duck" Clellan]]
*[[Brad Dryborough]] as Lt. [[Hoshi]]
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
*Madeleine Parker as [[Kacey]]
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman|James "Jammer" Lyman]]
*[[imdb:nm1773454|Mylène Dinh-Robic]] as Officer #1
*[[imdb:nm1468333|Ryan McDonell]] as Pilot #3
*[[imdb:nm0493171|Byron Lawson]] as Pilot #4
*[[imdb:nm0492687|Colin Lawrence]] as [[Hamish McCall|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]]
*[[imdb:mm,1989989|Larissa Stadnichuk]] as Suicide bomber

== References ==
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{{episode list (RDM season 3)}}

[[Category: A to Z]]
[[Category: RDM]]
[[Category:Episodes written by Ronald D. Moore]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan]]

[[de:Precipice]]

Precipice

2006-10-08T16:56:03Z

Khaosworks: /* Noteworthy Dialogue */

{{Episode Data
| title= Precipice
| image=Season 3 - Promo - Epi 1 - 2 - C-Number Eight, Adama, Helo.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 1.5
| guests=
| writer= [[Ronald D. Moore]]
| story=
| director= [[Sergio Mimica-Gezzan]]
| production=
| rating=
| US airdate= 2006-10-06
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population= ?
| prev= [[Occupation]]
| next= [[Exodus, Part I]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''After the suicide bombing, the [[Cylons (RDM) |Cylons]] institutes stricter controls on the human population on [[New Caprica]]. Aboard ''[[Galactica]]'', plans for the rescue from New Caprica move forward now that communication with the resistance has been established.

== Summary ==
*[[Gaius Baltar]] visits [[Laura Roslin]] (gathered up in detention apparently for his need) in her detention cell to discuss the suicide bombings, after which he releases her.
*After [[Duck]]'s suicide bombing in an effort to kill Baltar, the Cylons begin a crackdown and round up random civilians.
*[[Felix Gaeta]] continues to give information to the resistance, though [[Galen Tyrol]] is unaware that Gaeta is his source inside the presidency. Tyrol calls Gaeta a collaborator.
*Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] swears in [[Sharon Agathon]] as a Colonial officer and sends her down to New Caprica to help the resistance.
*[[Saul Tigh]], Chief Tyrol, and [[Samuel Anders]] decide to meet Agathon in a canyon outside of town after she [[FTL|Jumps]] inside the planetary atmosphere.
*[[Ellen Tigh]], after being threatened with more harm to Colonel Tigh, gives the Cylons information on where the meeting is to take place.
*Another suicide bombing, attacking the power plant and causing severe damage, moves the Cylons to more drastic actions.
*The Cylons force Baltar to sign an execution order for 200 civilians, including [[Cally Tyrol]], Roslin and [[Tom Zarek]]. The detainees are transported outside the city.
*As Sharon Agathon and Anders formulate their plans, they are ambushed by Centurions.
*While stopping to ostensibly let the detainees stretch their legs, [[Jammer]] cuts Cally Tyrol's bonds and tells her to run from the area. As as she gets away, [[Cylon Centurion]]s show up to execute the detainees with Zarek pulling Roslin away from the front of the crowd. As Cally Tyrol runs through the forest, the sound of automatic gunfire rings out.

== Questions ==

*If [[Sharon Agathon]] is killed during her mission on [[New Caprica]], will she be able to download into a new body?
**Most likely yes, but she would be immediately captured as an intelligence source, along with any memories she has as of that download. It is feasible that these memories may be distributed to the rest of the Cylons.
*Where will [[Cally Tyrol]] be able to run to? She was ordered to face execution by the Colonial Government.
*Why did the Cylons abandon their plan for a public execution? More importantly, if we are to assume that the gunfire at the end of the episode is not from the Centurions, then who is firing?
**There is the possibility, however remote, that it was the New Caprica Police who opened fire on the Centurions. However, story-wise that might be a cop-out, and it is unlikely that the NCP would take such action, Jammer's release of Cally not withstanding.
**Another possibility is that the gunfire we heard is somehow coming from Sharon/Anders and their rescue team. Of course they would've had to escape/defeat the ambush and somehow come upon the execution scene, and these events appear to be happening concurrently.
*What is the role of the five unseen Cylon models in the occupation? Are they present and simply remaining off-camera for the benefit of the audience? Have they attempted to hide themselves from the Colonials?
**{{spoiltext|*Grace Park, Dean Stockwell, and Tricia Helfer have indicated in interviews that the last five models are so secret that even the seven models known to the audience don't know who these five are.}}
*Why did no Leoben Conoy copies take part in the deliberation on Colonial One over whether or not to issue the execution order?
**Conoy's motives on New Caprica appear to be entirely selfish—he is there for Kara Thrace only.
*[[Cally Henderson]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)]] both took their husbands' names upon marriage, as did [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Caroline Adama]] and [[Sesha Abinell]]. Are [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Kara Thrace]] now Anastasia Adama, and Kara Anders, respectively?
*What is the relationship between Caprica-Six's shooting and the reappearance of [[Cylon-Related_Hallucinations#Baltar.27s_Internal_Six |Baltar's Internal Six]]?
**It is possible that two events are not directly related. The reappearance was not immediate, but happened after [[Number Five]] and [[Cavil]] continued to threaten Baltar with death. Since Caprica-Six's support was gone, Baltar was under severe stress and thought that he might likely die. Internal-Six has shown a tendency to appear at those times, especially if Baltar's survival is at stake.
*Now that the Lt. Sharon Agathon has landed on the surface of New Caprica, how can she be distingushed from other [[Number Eight]]s there?
**Other than her [[flight suit]], it remains unclear how [[Sharon Agathon]] will be distinguished from other [[Number Eight]]s.
**As indicated by Adama earlier in the episode, Centurions are incapable of distinguishing each individual Cylon copy of a model (in this case, Number Eight), as they have limited sentience.
* What will happen if Sharon Agathon discovers that [[Hera]]'s death was faked? Will she renege on her oath to Adama -- and how will this affect her sympathies to Adama, who would clearly be "in the know" regarding this hoax?

== Analysis ==
*We learn a little bit more about the nature of the various humanoid Cylons here. Apparently a single copy is usually qualified to speak for its entire model. Interestingly, [[Caprica-Six]] was unable to dissuade her "sisters" from voting to execute the dissidents.
*As one of the Cavils notes, adherence to the Cylon creed has become increasingly perfunctory. The Cylons sought the President's signature as a mere formality.
*If [[Leoben Conoy]]'s story is true, [[Kacey]] can't be older than 16 months. As of this episode, it has been about 27 months since the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|fall of the Colonies]]. Kara Thrace's incarceration at the [[Farms|Farm]] on Caprica took place about two months after the fall of the Colonies.
*Even if Ellen Tigh's actions are as reprehensible as ever, her motivations this time around are rather more laudable. These two episodes seem to indicate that she truly does care for her husband.

== Notes ==
*"Occupation/[[Precipice]]" was awarded the [[Awards and Honors|IGN.com Editor's choice award]], following a review in which it recieved a rating of 10/10.
*"[[Occupation]]" and "Precipice" is edited as one 2-hr episode with only one introduction. However, in the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] indicates the "beginning" of "Precipice" as the scene with Baltar and Roslin in the detention cell.
*In the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] states that references to "The Twist" and "The Swirl" are a homage to ''[[Wikipedia:Seinfeld |Seinfeld]]''. The episode in question is "The Fusille Jerry."
*Felix Gaeta's given name, first revealed in "[[Final Cut]]," is spoken out loud for the first time.
*Caprica-Valerii has married Karl Agathon and taken his last name. She continues to be confined to her cell, but it has been decorated and furnished. Ironically enough, she still calls him "Helo."
*Sharon Agathon and William Adama have continued to develop the rapport which they established in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]." In this episode, he comissions her as a lieutenant and releases her from her cell.
*[[Number Three]]'s claim that Caprica-Six's assault on her was the first case of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in their history is not really true. Sharon Agathon shot and "killed" another Eight outside the Delphi spaceport on Caprica. The Cylons may not look on this in the same light because it was within one model. Alternatively, Number Eight may have been unable to identify her shooter. This is plausible because that copy was looking at Helo when she was shot, and afterwards could only stare up into the sky for a few seconds before dying and presumably downloading.
**Actually, Sharon Agathon also shot a Six previous to that, but we may presume that Six consented as part of the Cylons' plan for Helo.
*Ironically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six in the head shortly after Three's statement. Cavil indicates, however, that she won't be "boxed," as Caprica feared in "[[Downloaded]]."
*The shooting of the captives and Cally Tyrol's escape at the end of the episode are an homage to ''[[Wikipedia:The Great Escape|The Great Escape]]''.
*Baltar's Internal-Six appears only after Caprica-Six is killed.
*This episode has the second highest number of guest stars. Only the [[Miniseries]] had more credited stars.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Discussing suicide bombings:''
:'''Galen Tyrol''': This is crazy. You know, we'll need to figure out whose side we're on?
:'''Saul Tigh''': Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction where ever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

*''After being arrested, held without charge and carted to a remote location:''
:'''Tom Zarek''': Laura.. That election last year. You tried to steal it, didn't you?
:'''Laura Roslin''': Yes, Tom. I did.
:'''Tom Zarek''': (laughs) Ah... I wish you'd gone through with it.
:'''Laura Roslin''': So do I.

*''Talking in a cell:''
:'''Cally''': "...frak you Sharon, you stupid frakked-up toaster. How many times do I have to shoot you anyway?"

*''After being slapped by Roslin for accussing her of working for the Cylons:''
:'''Saul Tigh''': You see, little things like that they don't matter anymore. Fact, not too frakking much really matter anymore. I got one job here lady, and one job only. To disrupt the Cylons, make them worry about the ant hill they stirred up down here so they're distracted and out of position when the old man show up in orbit. The bombings, they got the Cylons' attention, they really got their attention. And I am not giving that up.
:'''Laura Roslin''': We are talking about people blowing themselves up.
:'''Tigh''': You know, sometimes I think that you've got ice water in those veins. And other times, I just think that you're just a naive little school teacher. I've sent men on suicide missions in two wars now, and let me tell you something. It don't make a godsdamn bit of difference whether they're riding in a Viper or walking out onto a parade ground. In the end they're just as dead. (pauses) So, take your piety, and your moralizing, and your high-minded principles, and stick 'em somewhere safe until you're off the rock and sitting in your nice, cushy chair on Colonial One again. (stands) I've got a war to fight (leaves).

*''As the Cylons try to force Balter to sign the execution order, following Number Five's shooting of Capirca-Six in the head:''
:'''Cavil''': "She'll be back..."
:'''Cavil''': "... but if he pulls that trigger now, you won't."

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==
*[[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
*[[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Cavil]]
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine]] ([[Kat]])
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson]] ([[Racetrack]])
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon]] ([[Helo]])
*[[Christian Tessier]] as [[Tucker Clellan]] ([[Duck]])
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman]] ([[Jammer]])
*[[Brad Dryborough]] as Lt. [[Hoshi]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]

== References ==
<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

{{episode list (RDM season 3)}}

[[Category: A to Z]]
[[Category: RDM]]
[[Category:Episodes written by Ronald D. Moore]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan]]

Precipice

2006-10-08T16:53:08Z

Khaosworks: /* Summary */ sequence

{{Episode Data
| title= Precipice
| image=Season 3 - Promo - Epi 1 - 2 - C-Number Eight, Adama, Helo.jpg
| season= 3
| episode= 1.5
| guests=
| writer= [[Ronald D. Moore]]
| story=
| director= [[Sergio Mimica-Gezzan]]
| production=
| rating=
| US airdate= 2006-10-06
| UK airdate=
| dvd=
| population= ?
| prev= [[Occupation]]
| next= [[Exodus, Part I]]
}}

== Overview ==
:''After the suicide bombing, the [[Cylons (RDM) |Cylons]] institutes stricter controls on the human population on [[New Caprica]]. Aboard ''[[Galactica]]'', plans for the rescue from New Caprica move forward now that communication with the resistance has been established.

== Summary ==
*[[Gaius Baltar]] visits [[Laura Roslin]] (gathered up in detention apparently for his need) in her detention cell to discuss the suicide bombings, after which he releases her.
*After [[Duck]]'s suicide bombing in an effort to kill Baltar, the Cylons begin a crackdown and round up random civilians.
*[[Felix Gaeta]] continues to give information to the resistance, though [[Galen Tyrol]] is unaware that Gaeta is his source inside the presidency. Tyrol calls Gaeta a collaborator.
*Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] swears in [[Sharon Agathon]] as a Colonial officer and sends her down to New Caprica to help the resistance.
*[[Saul Tigh]], Chief Tyrol, and [[Samuel Anders]] decide to meet Agathon in a canyon outside of town after she [[FTL|Jumps]] inside the planetary atmosphere.
*[[Ellen Tigh]], after being threatened with more harm to Colonel Tigh, gives the Cylons information on where the meeting is to take place.
*Another suicide bombing, attacking the power plant and causing severe damage, moves the Cylons to more drastic actions.
*The Cylons force Baltar to sign an execution order for 200 civilians, including [[Cally Tyrol]], Roslin and [[Tom Zarek]]. The detainees are transported outside the city.
*As Sharon Agathon and Anders formulate their plans, they are ambushed by Centurions.
*While stopping to ostensibly let the detainees stretch their legs, [[Jammer]] cuts Cally Tyrol's bonds and tells her to run from the area. As as she gets away, [[Cylon Centurion]]s show up to execute the detainees with Zarek pulling Roslin away from the front of the crowd. As Cally Tyrol runs through the forest, the sound of automatic gunfire rings out.

== Questions ==

*If [[Sharon Agathon]] is killed during her mission on [[New Caprica]], will she be able to download into a new body?
**Most likely yes, but she would be immediately captured as an intelligence source, along with any memories she has as of that download. It is feasible that these memories may be distributed to the rest of the Cylons.
*Where will [[Cally Tyrol]] be able to run to? She was ordered to face execution by the Colonial Government.
*Why did the Cylons abandon their plan for a public execution? More importantly, if we are to assume that the gunfire at the end of the episode is not from the Centurions, then who is firing?
**There is the possibility, however remote, that it was the New Caprica Police who opened fire on the Centurions. However, story-wise that might be a cop-out, and it is unlikely that the NCP would take such action, Jammer's release of Cally not withstanding.
**Another possibility is that the gunfire we heard is somehow coming from Sharon/Anders and their rescue team. Of course they would've had to escape/defeat the ambush and somehow come upon the execution scene, and these events appear to be happening concurrently.
*What is the role of the five unseen Cylon models in the occupation? Are they present and simply remaining off-camera for the benefit of the audience? Have they attempted to hide themselves from the Colonials?
**{{spoiltext|*Grace Park, Dean Stockwell, and Tricia Helfer have indicated in interviews that the last five models are so secret that even the seven models known to the audience don't know who these five are.}}
*Why did no Leoben Conoy copies take part in the deliberation on Colonial One over whether or not to issue the execution order?
**Conoy's motives on New Caprica appear to be entirely selfish—he is there for Kara Thrace only.
*[[Cally Henderson]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)]] both took their husbands' names upon marriage, as did [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Caroline Adama]] and [[Sesha Abinell]]. Are [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Kara Thrace]] now Anastasia Adama, and Kara Anders, respectively?
*What is the relationship between Caprica-Six's shooting and the reappearance of [[Cylon-Related_Hallucinations#Baltar.27s_Internal_Six |Baltar's Internal Six]]?
**It is possible that two events are not directly related. The reappearance was not immediate, but happened after [[Number Five]] and [[Cavil]] continued to threaten Baltar with death. Since Caprica-Six's support was gone, Baltar was under severe stress and thought that he might likely die. Internal-Six has shown a tendency to appear at those times, especially if Baltar's survival is at stake.
*Now that the Lt. Sharon Agathon has landed on the surface of New Caprica, how can she be distingushed from other [[Number Eight]]s there?
**Other than her [[flight suit]], it remains unclear how [[Sharon Agathon]] will be distinguished from other [[Number Eight]]s.
**As indicated by Adama earlier in the episode, Centurions are incapable of distinguishing each individual Cylon copy of a model (in this case, Number Eight), as they have limited sentience.
* What will happen if Sharon Agathon discovers that [[Hera]]'s death was faked? Will she renege on her oath to Adama -- and how will this affect her sympathies to Adama, who would clearly be "in the know" regarding this hoax?

== Analysis ==
*We learn a little bit more about the nature of the various humanoid Cylons here. Apparently a single copy is usually qualified to speak for its entire model. Interestingly, [[Caprica-Six]] was unable to dissuade her "sisters" from voting to execute the dissidents.
*As one of the Cavils notes, adherence to the Cylon creed has become increasingly perfunctory. The Cylons sought the President's signature as a mere formality.
*If [[Leoben Conoy]]'s story is true, [[Kacey]] can't be older than 16 months. As of this episode, it has been about 27 months since the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|fall of the Colonies]]. Kara Thrace's incarceration at the [[Farms|Farm]] on Caprica took place about two months after the fall of the Colonies.
*Even if Ellen Tigh's actions are as reprehensible as ever, her motivations this time around are rather more laudable. These two episodes seem to indicate that she truly does care for her husband.

== Notes ==
*"Occupation/[[Precipice]]" was awarded the [[Awards and Honors|IGN.com Editor's choice award]], following a review in which it recieved a rating of 10/10.
*"[[Occupation]]" and "Precipice" is edited as one 2-hr episode with only one introduction. However, in the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] indicates the "beginning" of "Precipice" as the scene with Baltar and Roslin in the detention cell.
*In the podcast, [[Ronald D. Moore]] states that references to "The Twist" and "The Swirl" are a homage to ''[[Wikipedia:Seinfeld |Seinfeld]]''. The episode in question is "The Fusille Jerry."
*Felix Gaeta's given name, first revealed in "[[Final Cut]]," is spoken out loud for the first time.
*Caprica-Valerii has married Karl Agathon and taken his last name. She continues to be confined to her cell, but it has been decorated and furnished. Ironically enough, she still calls him "Helo."
*Sharon Agathon and William Adama have continued to develop the rapport which they established in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]." In this episode, he comissions her as a lieutenant and releases her from her cell.
*[[Number Three]]'s claim that Caprica-Six's assault on her was the first case of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in their history is not really true. Sharon Agathon shot and "killed" another Eight outside the Delphi spaceport on Caprica. The Cylons may not look on this in the same light because it was within one model. Alternatively, Number Eight may have been unable to identify her shooter. This is plausible because that copy was looking at Helo when she was shot, and afterwards could only stare up into the sky for a few seconds before dying and presumably downloading.
**Actually, Sharon Agathon also shot a Six previous to that, but we may presume that Six consented as part of the Cylons' plan for Helo.
*Ironically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six in the head shortly after Three's statement. Cavil indicates, however, that she won't be "boxed," as Caprica feared in "[[Downloaded]]."
*The shooting of the captives and Cally Tyrol's escape at the end of the episode are an homage to ''[[Wikipedia:The Great Escape|The Great Escape]]''.
*Baltar's Internal-Six appears only after Caprica-Six is killed.
*This episode has the second highest number of guest stars. Only the [[Miniseries]] had more credited stars.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Discussing suicide bombings:''
:'''Galen Tyrol''': This is crazy. You know, we'll need to figure out whose side we're on?
:'''Saul Tigh''': Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction where ever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

*''After being arrested, held without charge and carted to a remote location:''
:'''Tom Zarek''': Laura.. That election last year. You tried to steal it, didn't you?
:'''Laura Roslin''': Yes, Tom. I did.
:'''Tom Zarek''': (laughs) Ah... I wish you'd gone through with it.

*''Talking in a cell:''
:'''Cally''': "...frak you Sharon, you stupid frakked-up toaster. How many times do I have to shoot you anyway?"

*''After being slapped by Roslin for accussing her of working for the Cylons:''
:'''Saul Tigh''': You see, little things like that they don't matter anymore. Fact, not too frakking much really matter anymore. I got one job here lady, and one job only. To disrupt the Cylons, make them worry about the ant hill they stirred up down here so they're distracted and out of position when the old man show up in orbit. The bombings, they got the Cylons' attention, they really got their attention. And I am not giving that up.
:'''Laura Roslin''': We are talking about people blowing themselves up.
:'''Tigh''': You know, sometimes I think that you've got ice water in those veins. And other times, I just think that you're just a naive little school teacher. I've sent men on suicide missions in two wars now, and let me tell you something. It don't make a godsdamn bit of difference whether they're riding in a Viper or walking out onto a parade ground. In the end they're just as dead. (pauses) So, take your piety, and your moralizing, and your high-minded principles, and stick 'em somewhere safe until you're off the rock and sitting in your nice, cushy chair on Colonial One again. (stands) I've got a war to fight (leaves).

*''As the Cylons try to force Balter to sign the execution order, following Number Five's shooting of Capirca-Six in the head:''
:'''Cavil''': "She'll be back..."
:'''Cavil''': "... but if he pulls that trigger now, you won't."

== Official Statements ==

== Guest Stars ==
*[[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three]]
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
*[[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
*[[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Cavil]]
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine]] ([[Kat]])
*[[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson]] ([[Racetrack]])
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon]] ([[Helo]])
*[[Christian Tessier]] as [[Tucker Clellan]] ([[Duck]])
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Henderson Tyrol]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Dominic Zamprogna]] as [[James Lyman]] ([[Jammer]])
*[[Brad Dryborough]] as Lt. [[Hoshi]]
*[[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
*[[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]

== References ==
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Precipice

2006-10-08T03:53:55Z

Khaosworks: /* Summary */

Precipice

2006-10-08T03:52:59Z

Khaosworks: /* Summary */

Precipice

2006-10-08T03:51:18Z

Khaosworks: /* Summary */ some more detail

Nomen

2006-10-07T12:29:10Z

Khaosworks: Redirecting to Borellian Nomen

#REDIRECT [[Borellian Nomen]]

The Hand of God (RDM)

2006-09-18T16:42:36Z

Khaosworks: /* Noteworthy Dialogue */ correcting quote (just watched it again on DVD)

:''This article details an episode of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|re-imagined series]]. For information on the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|original series]] episode of the same name, see [[The Hand of God (TOS)]].''

{{Episode Data
| image =HandofGod.jpg
| title=The Hand of God
| series=
| season=1
| episode=10
| guests=
| writer=[[David Weddle]] [[Bradley Thompson]]
| story=
| director=[[Jeff Woolnough]]
| production=110
| rating=
| US airdate=2005-03-11
| UK airdate=2005-01-03
| dvd= {{Season 1 NTSC DVD release date}} '''US''' {{Season 1 PAL DVD release date}} '''UK'''
| population=47,898
| prev=[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down|Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]
| next=[[Colonial Day]]
| podcast=Y
| podtitle=The Hand of God
}}

== Overview ==

: ''With the Fleet short of [[tylium|fuel]], ''[[Galactica]]'' launches a daring attack on a Cylon base.''

== Summary ==
* [[The Fleet (RDM)|The Fleet]] is almost out of fuel, and ''[[Galactica]]'' has [[Raptor|Raptors]] out scouting nearby star systems to find tylium ore - if they don't, the fleet can make two more [[FTL|Jumps]] at best
* Aboard one of the Raptors, [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] and [[Crashdown]] find an asteroid filled with years worth of tylium ore — unfortunately, the Cylons found it first and have built a [[Cylon Refinery|refinery base]] on it.
* Faced with hoping to locate tylium elsewhere using their remaining supplies of fuel, or taking the asteroid from the Cylons, [[William Adama|Adama]] opts to attack the asteroid to take the tylium from the Cylons.
* On ''[[Colonial One]]'', [[Laura Roslin]] reveals she is being affected by taking [[Chamalla]] extract to [[Elosha]], having precient visions – her dreams about [[Leoben Conoy]] which occurred immediately before he was found on the ''[[Gemenon Traveler]]'' ([[Flesh and Bone]]), and her hallucination about snakes
* On hearing about the snakes, Elosha reveals that it matches a prophecy in an ancient text written by [[Pythia]] 3,600 years ago concerning the exodus of humankind, which foretells that a dying Leader will lead the remnants of humanity to the promised land of Earth.
* Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] and [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] draw up an initial plan to take the asteroid, but Commander Adama decides to turn to [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] to come up with an unconventional idea to accomplish the mission, as she has a penchant for thinking "outside the box", and as machines the Cylons tend to predict more logical plans.
* Plans are drawn up for the attack on the Cylon base on the asteroid, and [[Gaius Baltar]] is involved in preparations when Starbuck and Tigh show him recon photos of the refinery. They cannot simply nuke the base, as the radiation would render the tylium inert, so the best plan would be to destroy the containers holding the volatile unrefined tylium precursor. Tigh and Starbuck want Baltar to point out what it is, even though he has no idea what it looks like. In his mind, Baltar asks his virtual Number Six for help, but she tells him it is in God's hands and He will "tell" Baltar where to point. Baltar picks an object in the base, simply as a wild guess (though he doesn't tell the others that). Baltar is terrified, telling Six he didn't hear God's voice, but she reassures him that "God doesn't always speak in ''words''".
* Apollo is concerned that everyone thinks Starbuck is a better pilot than he is and would be better leading the mission. Starbuck cannot fly in the attack, because in the [[Weight Room|weight room]] Commander Adama demonstrates that her knee has not yet fully recovered from its [[You Can't Go Home Again|injury]]. On the hangar deck, Commander Adama encourages Apollo, telling him he thinks Apollo really can pull off this mission, because he is his son.
* The attack is launched, and [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid|the battle]] commences: civilian mining ships Jump in on one side of the Cylon base pretending to be on a survey mission, drawing off some Raiders from the base, while ''Galactica'' jumps in on the other side and launches a squadron of Vipers against it, which are confronted by the base's reserve Raiders. The Raiders sent against the mining ships peel off and advance with the others on ''Galactica''. Everything seems to be going wrong, but then Adama reveals that this was a feint: doesn’t trust anyone other than his immediate officers with the full details of the action, not even Roslin, because he knows there are Cylon infiltrators in the Fleet.
*A second squadron of Vipers, led by Apollo, are hidden inside of the mining ships: instead of a feint, the mining ships were the thrust of the real attack. All of the Raiders were lured away to advance on ''Galactica'', so they proceed to the base unmolested. However, things are far from easy: the Cylon base has a formidable Anti-Air defense system, and the Vipers' missle attack fails as the Cylons are jamming their missiles' tracking systems.
*In a move of reckless improvisation worthy of Starbuck, Apollo avoids the Cylon defense grid by flying through its tylium mining tunnels to the center of the base, then dropping a pait of explosive charges at the supposed tylium-precursor container.
*Much to Baltar's surprise, his wild guess at which container held the volatile tylium-precursor was correct: as Apollo flies away, the entire base explodes with the force of a 3 kiloton nuclear warhead.
*With their base destroyed, the Cylon Raiders go into a panic and are easy prey for ''Galactica''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Vipers to mop up. All planes return to ''Galactica'' in a moment of celebration. Civilian mining ships will be able to get enough tylium fuel from the asteroid to last the Fleet several years.
*In Baltar's dream world, he expresses his astonishment to Number Six: Baltar "realizes" that the only "logical" explanation is that God truly did guide his hand to the right point on the Cylon base. The originally atheist Baltar now accepts the possibility that he might truly be an instrument of God...

[[Image:bsg-1-10.jpg|thumb|Adama and staff plan the attack.]]
=== On Caprica: ===
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|Valerii]] are hiding-out on a farm on their way to [[Delphi]].
*When Helo offers to prepare a meal, Valerii is uncharacteristically sick, leading them to try and settle down for some sleep.
*They are interrupted by the arrival of a troop of [[Cylon Centurion]]s - lead by another copy of Number Six.
*Forcing a stunned Helo into action - he cannot believe the woman he saw Sharon kill is coming after them - Sharon forces him back on the run.

== Questions ==

* Why did [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] order the fighters to pursue the fleeing [[Cylon Raiders]], instead of securing the area? One possibility for attacking the remaining fighters to prevent them from getting reinforcements from a distant [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]. ''(Although Adama will not have discovered this until later episodes, Raiders have the ability to make a jump ''much'' farther than any Colonial vessel.)''
* How many Vipers does ''Galactica'' actually have? Do they have a contingency plan should the majority (or all) of the Vipers be destroyed? Or are they simply fraked? (See [[Galactica (RDM)#Running Tallies|this article for a running tally by episode to-date]])
* Are the Colonials able to build ships, such as [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], from scratch? Or can they take destroyed hulks and rebuild off them? (Answer: Vipers are frequently salvaged, but only to a point. [[Flight of the Phoenix|Yes, they can build from scratch]], although the result [[Blackbird|may not be a Viper]]. However, [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']] is able to build Vipers from scratch, when she has the raw materials (metal ore, etc) to do so. ([[Scar]]))
* How exactly can a 3,600 year old text foretell the exodus of humanity, and the leadership of [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]]? ([[Sacred Scrolls|Answer]].)
* Does someone have time on their hands to build miniatures of the ''new'' Cylon Raiders for the [[Situation Room]]!?
* If [[Gaius Baltar]] read the Sacred Scrolls in "... the 6th grade", why, in spite of being the former Secretary of Education, doesn't [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] know who [[Pythia]] is?
**Answer: According to RDM, the Sacred Scrolls are much like modern Earth religions, i.e. the vast majority of the general populace often knows many often-quoted phrases and the general philosophy of a religion, but that doesn't mean every person is a theology scholar. Also, like Earth different sections of the Twelve Colonies are more religious than others. [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]], for example, is quite secular in regards to religion, while [[Gemenon]] is religiously fundamentalist, believing in the literal truth of the Sacred Scrolls.
*Is Baltar truly an instrument of "God"?

== Analysis ==
*The introduction of the prophesy of [[Pythia]] further link the series' mythology to the ancient Greece of our own planet. In Greek mythology, the Pythia was the priestess at Apollo's oracle in Delphi. The name itself comes from Python, the dragon slain by Apollo. The Pythia operated as a vehicle for Apollo's will to be known to those on earth. A believer would make a sacrifice and present a question to a priest. The priest would then present the question to the Pythia. The Pythia sat on a bronze tripod in the adytum, or inner chamber of Apollo's temple. In this sacred chamber the spirit of Apollo overcame the Pythia and inspired the prophecy.
**Pythia in ancient Greece was the Oracle of Delphi – and on Caprica, Helo and Sharon are making for the religious center of Delphi.
*Following his seeking God’s forgiveness ([[33]]) and his repentance of his sins ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]), Baltar finally becomes God’s "instrument". He literally becomes the hand of God referenced in the episode title: he is the one that points out the target that will destroy the Cylon base.
*Over the last few weeks, we’ve seen Baltar move through the five emotional states that tend to guide our reactions to a new "truth" we’d rather not face:
**Denial (dismissing the "disappearance" of the ''Olympic Carrier'' after the call from Dr. Amorak as anything more than a serendipitous event - [[33]])
**Anger (his outright hostility towards Six as she continues to "bore" him with talk of God - [[Six Degrees of Separation]])
**Bargaining (praying to God for his safety in return for his obedience - [[Six Degrees of Separation]])
**Depression (leaving the Situation Room without having "heard" God’s voice & facing up to the fact that he had to – again - lie)
**Acceptance his messianic response to Six’s coaxing at the end of this episode.
*Did the Cylons ''allow'' the Colonials to find an asteroid filled with fuel?
**Executive producer [[Ron Moore]] has stated numerous times that the Cylons are not letting the Fleet escape, but are actively trying to destroy it.

== Notes ==
*Nine days have passed since the events of "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]".
*The celtic victory music played at the end of the episode after the Cylon base is destroyed is titled "Wander My Friends", written and composed by [[Bear McCreary]]. The lyrics and translation for the song given in the liner notes for the Season 1 soundtrack are reposted [[Soundtrack (Season 1)#Lyrics and Translations|on this page]], with permission.
*Tylium ore is use to power FTL systems, but probably not through any fissionable reaction.
*Tylium has an energy density of about 5e14 J/kg, comparable to that of nuclear fusion.
*Cylon technology is clearly a Colonial off-shoot, as one would expect: from the use of tylium down to the shape of doorways.
*William Adama’s father was Joseph Adama.
*Sharon Valerii on Caprica may well be pregnant.
*Lt. Gaeta makes mention in passing conversation to Apollo that the Colonials actually know where the [[Cylon homeworld]] is ("they'd build a refinery this far from their homeworld?" "Why not? They need fuel out here just as much as we do").
*There is an ancient text some 3,600 years old foretelling humanity’s flight – and apparently, Roslin’s leadership.
*Mark II Vipers can carry both missiles and munitions pods (bombs).
*The Mark VII Vipers all appear to be out of commission - even Apollo is now regularly flying a Mk II.
*Based on the conversation between Commander Adama and Starbuck in the gym, it appears that Mark II Viper thruster pedals use a mechanical flight control system rather than a "fly-by-wire" linkage. This fits the concept of minimizing the use of computers mentioned in the [[miniseries]].
*The religious overtones to the human / Cylon struggle are becoming more pronounced, with a now-promised confrontation due at the "home of the Gods".
*The Colonial fleet has a tylium refinery ship among its number.
*With the capture of the tylium mining facilities on the asteroid, the Colonials should be able to gather enough tylium to keep them going for about 2 years – assuming they can shift that much tylium to their refinery ship before the Cylons return.
*A railway line can be seen below the balcony of Baltar's Caprica house at the end of the episode. Single track, mounted on apparently wooden (as oppsoed to conrete sleepers), on a bed of gravel, without any form of electrifcation (3rd rail or overhead wires).

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Lee Adama sits with a battered Viper before the mission. He is joined by his father, who after a short conversation, Adama hands Lee a lighter:''
:'''Commander Adama:''' It belonged to your grandfather. My mother bought it for him when he was in law school. See the engraving on it?
:'''Lee Adama:''' (reading the name "Joseph Adama") Yes I...can barely make it out...
:'''Commander Adama:''' He was a better father than I was. Dad used to carry that into court cases. He claimed he never lost unless he left it behind.
:'''Lee Adama:''' So you’re worried too.
:'''Commander Adama:''' About what?
:'''Lee Adama:''' Sometimes it feels like the whole ship thinks...Starbuck...would do better.
:'''Commander Adama:''' I don’t.
:'''Lee Adama:''' How can you be so sure?
:'''Commander Adama:''' Because you’re my son.

*''Commander Adama asks Starbuck to assist with developing a plan to attack the refinery:''
:'''Commander Adama:''' Captain Adama and Colonel Tigh are working on the plan now and I need some serious "out-of -the-box" thinking.
:'''Starbuck:''' "Out-of-the-box" is where I live.

*''During the briefing with Apollo, Tigh, Starbuck, Adama, and Roslin.''
:'''Commander Adama:''' Sometimes, you have to roll the hard six.

== Official Statements ==




== Guest stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief Petty Officer [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally]]
*[[Lorena Gale]] as [[Elosha]]
*[[imdb:nm1750308|Cailin Stadnyk]] as Ensign [[Davis]]
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Constanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza]]
*[[Lucianna Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
*[[imdb:nm0155389|Terry Chen]] as [[Perry|"Chuckles" Perry]]
*[[imdb:nm1775193|Christina Schild]] as [[Playa Palacios]]
*[[Biski Gugushe]] as [[Sekou Hamilton]]
*[[imdb:nm1544128|Paul Cummings]] as [[Fireball]]
*[[imdb:nm0837992|Camille Sullivan]] as [[Stepchild]]

== External Links ==
[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season01/110/ "The Hand of God"] at scifi.com

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[[es:La Mano de Dios]]

Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I

2006-03-05T09:43:16Z

Khaosworks: /* Questions */ answering "faulty" navigation computer

{{Episode Data|
Image = [[Image:Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I.jpg|300px]]
| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]
| Episode= 19
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]]) [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] ([[Samuel Anders]])
| Writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]]
| Story=
| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]
| Production=
| Rating=
| US Airdate=March 3, 2006
| UK Airdate=
| DVD=
| Population= 49,579
| Prev= [[Downloaded]]
| Next= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]
}}

== Overview ==
''As the presidential election looms just weeks away, the accidental discovery of a habitable planet sparks debate in the Fleet: Colonize? Or keep seeking Earth? Meanwhile, Starbuck leads a rescue mission of Raptors back to Caprica to save Anders and his resistance''.

== Summary ==
*[[William Adama|Adama]] has finally given [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] the go-ahead to plan a rescue mission to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Caprica]]. On [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']], she lays out their plan: they will use ''all'' of their remaining [[Raptor|Raptors]] — 20 in all — and use the navigation computer/organ from one of the captured [[Heavy Raider]]s to calculate the Jumps back to Caprica. Using this, they can make it back to Caprica in a series of 10 Jumps. They will go undetected when they reach Caprica by making a risky jump to just a few klicks above the surface, within the atmosphere itself, below [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[DRADIS]]. Their biggest obstacle to doing this was actually interfacing with the Heavy Raider's navigation "computer", but now they will take [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|''Caprica''-Sharon]] along in Starbuck's Raptor with it; Sharon will directly interface with the computer (by inserting a fiber-optic cable into her arm, like she did in "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]").
*The presidential election is two weeks away, and [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is ahead in the polls. The only real arguments that [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] has against her that give him any ground are when he accuses her of pandering to the religious fundamentalists (i.e. her recent policy switch on abortion) and guiding the Fleet based on the scriptures alone. Conferring with his campaign manager [[Tom Zarek]] in his lab, Baltar realizes he'll need more than this to turn the fleet againt Roslin. Meanwhile, Roslin is doing a little rehearsal ritual for the presidential debate with Adama in his quarters.
*On the hangar deck, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] is sleeping on the floor and twitching convulsively, having a nightmare. [[Cally]] searches around the deck to find him, and is confused by the sight when she finds him. Cally tried to wake Tyrol up, but snapping right out of his nightmare he attacks Cally, punching her in the face until she is a bloody pulp and unconscious. Realizing where he is and what's going on, Tyrol is horrified, and carries Cally in his arms to sickbay.
*[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], now commander of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', has conflicting feelings about Starbuck's mission to rescue Anders, but wishes her good luck in finding him.
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and ''Caprica''-Sharon travel in Starbuck's Raptor. Sharon is still deeply depressed about her daughter [[Hera]]'s seeming death, and has been shutting herself out. Helo tells her that he won't let her do that and won't give up on her. Sharon tells him that she has the feeling that something bad will happen in the future; not on the mission to Caprica, but something else.
*On the very first jump out of the series of ten, [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]'s Raptor jumps to the wrong set of coordinates. Starbuck's orders were to keep going ahead until they lose 3 Raptors, so they go on ahead, while Racetrack prepares to follow her orders to return to [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] if separated. Her Raptor jumped into the middle of a gas cloud with a lot of interference, and upon clearing it, a new planet is found. Scanners indicate that it is a human-habitable planet. She returns to ''Galactica'' with news of the discovery.
*The crew goes over the scans from the planet; it can sustain human life and subsequent scouting shows that in contains animal and vegetative life; they could indeed settle here. However, it is a cold world and somewhat harsh; only a temperate band around the equator covering about 20% of the surface would be habitable. After some prodding from [[Six]], Baltar and Zarek realize that they can use this as their wedge issue to turn the people against Roslin: offer them permament colonization on this planet.
*[[Tory Foster|Tory]] goes over new poll numbers with Roslin on [[Colonial One]]: Baltar has been gaining ground with his new offer to stop running from the Cylons and stay here. The planet is hidden by interference from the gas clouds, and many people want to just stop their constant chase in the refugee fleet. Roslin points out that if the Colonials could find the planet, the Cylons could just as easily. Also, life on the planet would be harsh. Tory points out that Baltar is pandering to the people's hopes, giving them false ones that they greatly desire, while Roslin is pointing out justifiable fears that they simply don't want to hear; people will vote their hopes.
*Shocked by his attack on Cally, Chief Tyrol has asked for religious counselling, and meets with a priest named [[Brother Cavil]]. Tyrol explains that it is because he doesn't believe that psychoanalysis works, but is himself a very [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|religious]] man. Cavil is somewhat loose and sarcastic in his counseling, leaving Tyrol a little pertubed and confused. Cavil tells Tryol that he must look for the problem in himself and questions Tyrol, and when Tyrol denies that he has been having disturbing dreams, Cavil can see through it, so Tyrol relents.
*For weeks, Tyrol has been having the recurring dream that he walks onto the upper level of the hangar deck, climbs over the railing and kills himself by jumping to his death. Cavil says it is because Tyrol has a subconscious desire to kill himself. Tyrol explains that he has had the gnawing worry since [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]] died that he might himself be a [[Cylon agent|Cylon]]. ''Galactica''-Sharon never really knew she was a Cylon, even up to the point that she died, but reported strange fears that something bad was going to happen and she had to stop herself: how would Tyrol, or anyone else, really ''know'' if they were a Cylon sleeper agent or not? Tyrol is frightened by the prospect.
*Cavil assured Tyrol that he is not a Cylon, sarcastically quipping that he knows because he is a Cylon himself, and hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings. Tyrol feels ashamed to go back to the hangar deck crew after the accident, but Cavil assures him that they're the only family he has left, and they love him. Cally most of all.
*At the final presidential debate, Baltar's charisma and hopes of finally giving up their run from the Cylons starts to pull him ahead in the polls, and Roslin's warnings that this planet is not safe and determination to keep searching for Earth do not gain wide support. Baltar apparently wins the final debate. Roslin tells him to go frak himself.
*The Raptors rescuse mission makes the final jump to Caprica. [[Raptor 612]] is lost because it jumps right into the middle of a mountain. The remaining Raptors continue on, then Starbuck, Helo, Sharon and the marines continue on foot.
*One klick away from the resistance's base camp, they see movement, and find [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and his whole group. Starbuck is overjoyed to see him, but Anders warns that the Cylons are right behind them; the resistance's base was ambushed that morning, and half of Anders' men are dead.
*The [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]] and [[Resistance (movement)|resistance]] members start coming under Cylon artillery fire. After running briefly, they reach a point where the arc of the artillery shells is right above them, and cannot hit them. However, the artillery's killzone is now between them and retreat back to the Raptors. To be continued...

== Questions ==
*Did [[Raptor 612]] Jump "into" the mountain by crashing into it, or did they jump ''inside'' of it?
**RDM confirms in the podcast that by "jumped into the mountain" it doesn't mean "they jumped close to it and thus crashed", it means, exactly like a Star Trek transporter accident, that they materialized from the Jump into solid rock, "half-phased".
*If Raptor 612 was destroyed by jumping into a mountain, how was their transponder still operational?
**Perhaps that part of the Raptor was in an air pocket in the rock, and thus not phased into it. RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.
*Is the previous distance limit for Colonial [[FTL]] jumps on account of something like mathematical calculations? Have any of the other Raptors, besides the lead Raptor, been modified, or do they just receive coordinates from the one Raptor with Caprica-Boomer and the Cylon device?
*Does the fleet have the resources to sustain long term settlements on the newly found planet?
**Shelter could be taken care of by canabalizing the ships of the fleet for building materials. But the question of how many homes can be made for how many of the 49,000+ survivors simply by recycling the materials availible still remains. Even if ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' themselves were recycled, would there be enough materials, or would the Battlestars still be necessary for orbital defence?
**The planet itself may have natural resources—in "[[Scar]]", a mining ship collected metals to build new Vipers, so mining the planet itself may be possible. In this case it would be unnecessary to cannibalize the fleet.
*Zarek says the people have been cooped up in metal boxes since the attack. How literally does he mean this—for instance, are people living inside converted cargo holds as they were in the original series?
**Judging from RDM's podcast, he just meant being stuck inside of cramped ships in general, i.e. even the ''Galactica'' crew (who have dedicated crew quarters).
*How was the Raptor able to jump back to the fleet if their FTL navigation computer was not working properly?
**Racetrack's navigator says she gave him the coordinates, so it is possible that she relayed them incorrectly rather than a malfunction in the computer. Alternatively, they could have tracked down any fault and repaired it. In any case, the coordinates for the Raptor's original jump point would probably still be in the system.

== Analysis ==
*Timeline:
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months", putting this episode not long after "[[Downloaded]]".
**At the beginning of the episode, the election is still "two weeks away".
**At the beginning of the first debate, the announcer states Balter declared his bid for presidency a month ago.
**At the conclusion of the second debate, the polls will open in three days.
*[[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]] is apparently assigned to ''Pegasus'' at present, since Dualla refers to her mission as the "Pegasus survey team".
**She could have been flying a ''Pegasus'' Raptor.
*[[Lee Adama]] is now wearing a wristwatch, perhaps [[Barry Garner]]'s from "[[The Captain's Hand]]".
*It is safe to emerge from a hyperspace jump inside a planetary atmosphere at 2km, but not within solid rock. For comparative purposes, the density of air at 2km in an earth-like atmosphere is about 1 kg/m3, while the density of silica rock is about 2,600 kg/m3.
*''BattlestarWiki'' has been trying for some time to reconcile on the [[Timeline (RDM)|Timeline]] the apparent jump from 3 months to 6 months that occured at the beginning of Season 2.5, a part of which was that back in "[[Bastille Day]]" it was stated on screen that the presidential elections were due in '''seven''' months. However, over 7 months passed by the end of "[[Scar]]", and there wasn't even talk of the elections until "[[The Captain's Hand]]". In the podcast for this episode, Ron Moore appears to reveal that he has simply forgotten this point. When he refers to the fact that "elections were promised back in "Bastille Day"", Moore says that he remembers that the line in "Bastille Day" was '''nine''' months, not seven. This is more than a one-episode goof, becuase one month after "Bastille Day" in "[[Colonial Day]]", it was stated that the elections were six months away. In the podcast it seems that Moore is truly and simply mistaken, and there is no explanation for the descrepancy betwen the "seven months after the attack" figures given in "Bastille Day" and "Colonial Day", and the new "nine months after the attack" figure at the end of season 2.5. It is simply a mistake.

== Notes ==
*The re-cap for this episode includes scenes not actually shown in previous episodes—for instance, Starbuck demanding to the dying Roslin circa "[[Epiphanies]]" that they go back and rescue the Caprica resistance.
*When Baltar sarcastically quips that Zarek (and Six) expect him to just sit around and wait for "The Hand of God" to deliver them something they can use to their advantage against Roslin, he is of course referencing the previous episode titled "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Ironically, Baltar considers himself the hand of God in that episode. Further, a "chance serendipitous event" (namely the discovery of an inhabitable planet) does deliver them something they can use against Roslin.
*Likewise, when Apollo wishes Starbuck "good hunting", there's a tone of concern, and he seems to pause before saying it, as if Apollo meant to say something else but changed his mind. This may be a reference to "[[33]]", when Starbuck tells Apollo to say "good hunting" instead of "be careful out there".
*This episode has many parallels to "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]": the discovery of an inhabitable planet, Gaeta plotting a Raptor jump dangerously close to a planet surface, Starbuck's use of captured Cylon technology to return to Caprica, the intercutting of several plot threads in the teaser, a character contemplating suicide out of fear of being a Cylon, and difficulties between Helo and Sharon. In addition, Tyrol's assault of Cally is something of a parallel to Helo shooting Sharon in "Kobol's Last Gleaming"—in both cases, a man driven to rage physically and emotionally wounds a woman who loves him.
*When Lt. Gaeta takes his shirt off in the head, he can be seen to still be sporting the tiger tatoo that we first saw in "[[Final Cut]]".
*The combined Colonial fleet had 20 Raptors in this episode, of which 1 was destroyed before the end. Previously, ''Galactica'' was confirmed to have at least 5 left ([[The Farm]]), with the suggestion that there may be as many as 8 ([[Resistance]]). Doubtlessly, ''Pegasus'' brought at least an equal number of Raptors with it when it joined the Fleet, but 20 is still a high number for this. Perhaps a disproportionately large number of Raptors escaped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] during the [[Miniseries]]. Or perhaps like in real life with American Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers that carry a larger number of fighter aircraft compared to older Forrestal class carriers, the Pegasus, being a larger and more modern Battlestar than Galactica, it has the capability to carry a larger complement of Raptors. Unlike Vipers, Raptors do have FTL drives. We actually saw Boomer and Helo escaping the destruction of their Viper squadron, because Raptors do not engage in frontline combat, and because they have an extenstive ECM suite which Helo was trying to jam the Cylon virus signal with. Indeed, [[Crashdown]] was a Raptor ECO, but Boomer stated that he was not from ''Galactica'', but a refugee "from Triton" (either a battlestar or a planet).
**Also, more Raptors could have been built with extra materials after the Viper squadrons were manufactured ([[Scar]]).
*The jump error that landed the Raptor in the nebula was attributed to a "firmware error" by the crew. This may be an indication that there was firmware upgrade to deal with the increased FTL jump distances provided by the Cylon computer.
*When Cavil is consoling Tyrol's fears that he might unknowingly be a Cylon sleeper agent, just like Boomer was, Tyrol asks him how he can know for sure. Cavil sarcastically answers that it's because maybe he's a Cylon, and he hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings: Number Six also sarcastically remarked to Baltar in the Miniseries that [[Aaron Doral]] could not be a Cylon, because she hadn't "seen him at any of the good Cylon parties"...but of course, Doral actually ''was'' a Cylon, implying that Cavil is truly more than he seems.
*Tory actually paraphrases the title of this episode aloud, saying that the new planet offers people in the Fleet the hope that they can "lay down their burdens" and stop running.
*During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, before the Teaser segment a "Parental Discretion Is Advised" black and white message was inserted. At the end of the Teaser, Tyrol beats Cally to a bloody pulp.
*Lee Adama is now wearing a new uniform as Commander of ''Pegasus'': it is a Commander's uniform, denoted by the new red trim (with gold inner trim), and it has a white "''Pegasus'' BSG-62" patch, replacing his old gold "''Galactica'' BSG-75" patch.
*Dualla's photo of Adama is the left half of a group shot with Kara Thrace and his brother Zak Adama. The original belongs to Thrace, and she has kept it in her locker on ''Galactica'' since the miniseries.
*Dualla refers to "rivers of milk and honey" on the newly discovered planet. The phrase "land of milk and honey" is a common epithet for the promised land in the Torah, appearing in Exodus 3:8, 3:17, 13:5, 33:3, Leviticus 20:24, Number 13:27, 14:8, 16:13-14, and Deuteronomy 6:3.
*Commander Lee Adama is seen eating noodles with chopsticks in his quarters, just like his father in "[[33]]", etc.
*In the podcast, RDM states that originally instead of Starbuck, Helo, and Sharon leading the other Raptors in another Raptor, they would have been flying in the captured Heavy Raider itself. However, the 2 part season finale went overbudget and cuts had to be made, and the cost of building the Heavy Raider interior was deemed prohibitively expensive. Thus, they bring the Heavy Raider computer/organ with them in a normal Raptor. Moore said he believed that fans "wouldn't miss" an actual appearance by the Heavy Raider.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Chief Tyrol is worried that like'' Galactica''-Sharon, he could just as well be another Cylon sleeper agent:''
:'''Chief Tyrol:''' How do you know I'm human?
:'''Brother Cavil:''' Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've never seen you at any of the meetings?!

*'''Brother Cavil:''' Do you know how useless prayer is? Chanting, and singing, and mucking about with old half-remembered lines of bad poetry? And you know what it gets you? Exactly nothing.

== Official Statements ==

*''In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]) said:'' "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."

== Guest Stars ==

*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Brother Cavil]]
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aaron+Douglas Aaron Douglas] as CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne] as Specialist [[Cally]]
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Leah+Cairns Leah Cairns] [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay
*Colin Lawrence as "Skulls" McCall
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]

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Battle of the Binary Star System

2006-02-19T15:14:51Z

Khaosworks: Believing the tally, only 5 people died

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|Place||unnamed binary star system
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|Result||Tactical Cylon victory
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|Commander [[Barry Garner]]†, Major [[Lee Adama]]
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|[[Mercury class battlestar]] ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' 
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Engagement in which battlestar ''Pegasus'' is lured into a trap by three [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]]. The Cylons lure two of ''Pegasus's'' [[Raptor]]s out into a shroud of electro-magnetic interference (EMI) generated by a binary star system. Once the Raptors were there, the crews are killed and the craft left intact and adrift at the edge of the Colonials' [[DRADIS]] range. By all available data to the Colonials, the craft appear to be disabled, albeit non-responsive. The new commander of ''Pegasus'', [[Barry Garner]], disobeys Admiral [[William Adama]]'s orders and takes the battlestar in to rescue the Raptors, ignoring Adama's planned 5-Raptor [[SAR]] mission and warning of a likely Cylon trap.

Once ''Pegasus'' takes the bait and enters the region, three Cylon basestars Jump in and promptly launch a full salvo of tactical nuclear missiles, scoring two hits on the battlestar. ''Pegasus''' air wing, already spaceborne under the command of [[Kara Thrace|Captain "Starbuck" Thrace]], immediately engage the Cylons and return fire. Virtually ignoring the Vipers, the Cylon basestars focus their efforts on ''Pegasus'' and produce a third nuclear missile hit on the battlestar's underbelly.

Commander Barry Garner is an engineering officer not experienced in combat command. Worsening the situation, the heavy barrage dealt by the Cylons damage the FTL drive, putting ''Pegasus's'' survival in peril. Realizing his skills would be best used in engineering, Garner voluntarily transfers command to [[Lee Adama|Major Lee Adama]], and dashes below to Engineering.

After only a moment of hesitation, Major Adama promptly orders Starbuck and the rest of the Vipers to defend the compromised portions of ''Pegasus'' from further damage while directing the battlestar's forward batteries to fire on the closest of the three basestars, inflicting severe damage to its central axis to buy ''Pegasus'' more time. The wounded basestar is forced to withdraw; the first documented occurrence of a baseship diverging from their normal tactic of fighting to the death, perhaps due to the loss of the [[Resurrection Ship]].

The problem in repairing the FTL drive is an oxygen leak that blocks technicians from making repairs to the damaged FTL drive components. Commander Garner heroically sacrifices himself to repair the leak to allow his engineers to address the FTL drive. With the FTL drive restored, Major Adama orders all fighters to return and orders ''Pegasus'' to Jump.

From a tactical standpoint, the battle is a marginal Cylon victory — if their ultimate goal had been the destruction of ''Pegasus'', the attempt failed, thanks to the quick reactions of the Colonial crew. However, ''Pegasus'' suffers substantial damage and casualties, including, significantly, yet another command officer since the destruction of the Resurrection Ship. The battlestar returns to the relative safety of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]]. The extent of the damage and its long-term effect are not fully realized.

Lee Adama's tour under the rank of Major is short-lived. For his efforts in returning ''Pegasus'' under dangerous odds, Admiral Adama awards him with the rank of Commander and the command of ''Pegasus'' ([[The Captain's Hand]]).

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Gaius Baltar

2006-01-16T08:33:31Z

Khaosworks: /* Arrival of ''Pegasus'' */

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|role= Interim Vice President, [[Twelve Colonies|The Twelve Colonies of Kobol]])
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== Biography ==

=== Background ===

Dr. '''Gaius Baltar''' currently has two roles in the [[Government#Government_of_the_Fleet|Colonial Government]]; he is both Vice President and science adviser to the President. He was formerly a lead defense systems developer working for the [[Colonial Ministry of Defense]] and is widely considered a genius. Baltar came to prominence as a computer technology designer having won three [[Magnate Prize]]s. Baltar was born on [[The_Twelve_Colonies_(RDM)#Sagittaron |Sagittaron]] and attracted to [[The_Twelve_Colonies_(RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] by the Defense Ministry{{ref|birthplace}}. There, Baltar becomes responsible for the design of the critical [[Command Navigation Program]] (CNP) used throughout the [[Colonial Fleet]].

Elegantly dressed and aesthetically handsome, with the affected humility of the truly arrogant, Baltar is nonetheless a deeply flawed person and almost pathologically narcissist. Beneath his outstanding abilities lurks a pathological weakness of character. Self-absorbed, sly, guileful, and utterly dedicated to his own self-preservation, Baltar has carried on a two-year affair with a woman he believed to be a corporate spy -- even to the extent of using code she herself wrote to overcome shortfalls in his CNP -- and thus allows her unrestricted access to some of the most sensitive systems of the Colonial defenses.

=== [[Cylon Attack]] ===
[[image:Mini-Baltar_Six.jpg|thumb|left|300px|[[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Number Six]] kissing in the [[Mini-Series]]. (C. SciFi Channel)]]
When the Cylons launch their attack, Baltar becomes horrified to learn that his "corporate spy" lover is in fact a new type of Cylon -- a [[Humano-Cylon|Cylon in human form]]{{ref|hcylon}}, able to mimic human beings down to the smallest detail -- and that she altered his CNP as a gateway to make all integrated Colonial computers and defense systems vulnerable to a Cylon virus that subverts their command and control systems.

Appalled by the fact that his sexual folly has led to the virtual holocaust of humanity, Baltar is nevertheless determined not only to survive, but also avoid having, what amounts to, his treachery revealed.

Rescued on Caprica following the forced-landing of a Colonial [[Raptor]] -- at the cost of [[Helo|one of the crew staying behind]] ([[Mini-Series]]) -- he is pleased to find himself treated with the same esteem he enjoyed back on Caprica. His only problem is that [[Number Six]], his former "lover" -- herself ostensibly destroyed in the shock wave of a nuclear blast -- now appears to him in visions, and he cannot be sure whether this is a result of his own guilt at his actions or whether -- as she initially claims -- she is part of a chip that has been implanted in his brain{{ref|chip}}.

Shortly after Baltar's arrival on ''Galactica'', Commander [[William Adama]] learns that Cylons can mimic human form, and Baltar is put to work trying to devise a means of detecting these humanoid Cylons. By an educated guess, he exposes [[Aaron Doral]] -- a PR executive who co-ordinated the media coverage of ''Galactica's'' decommissioning -- as a Cylon agent ([[Mini-Series]]), using little more than invented [[technobabble]] to convince [[Colonel Tigh]]. Despite his protestations of innocence, Doral is marooned at [[Ragnar Anchorage]], but soon a team of Cylon agents appear to pick up the stranded Doral. Baltar's educated guess was correct--Doral was indeed a Cylon agent.

Due to his unique abilities, Baltar is charged with turning his initial "[[Cylon detector]]" into a working machine capable of screening everyone in [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]]. While he at first balks at this task, events such as the sabotaging of ''Galactica's'' water reserves ([[Water]]) force him into a position where he can no longer procrastinate over the detector -- despite his fear that such a device might somehow expose him as the original traitor among humans. Gaining aid from a most unusual source -- his "virtual" Six ([[Bastille Day]]) -- Baltar eventually develops a genuine detector, which, together with his survival of a foiled attempt to expose him as a traitor ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]), firmly establishes his credentials within the Fleet's hierarchy.

With this new-found trust, and despite his willingness to deliberately conceal vital information, such as [[Valerii, Sharon#"Boomer" Valerii|Lieutenant Valerii's]] true status as a [[Humano-Cylon|Cylon agent]] ([[Flesh and Bone]]), Baltar willing enters the realm of political leadership, first as the Representative for [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] on the [[Quorum of Twelve]], and then as the newly-elected Vice President of the Colonies ([[Colonial Day]]).

=== Cylon Manipulations ===

The Cylons commenced their direct manipulations of Baltar some two years prior to the attack on the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]], by bringing him into contact with their agent, [[Number Six]], who started a torrid affair with him while at the same time using him to access vital Colonial command and control systems within the Ministry of Defense ([[Mini-Series]]).

This manipulation continues even after the Doctor leaves Caprica behind, with Six appearing to him in sensory perceptions, possibly through an implant in his brain ([[Miniseries]]) or perhaps even through a series of psychotic hallucinations as the doctor struggles to reconcile his guilt and his desire of self-preservation.

Regardless of the cause of her appearances, Six continues to help and hinder Baltar, gradually drawing him to a point of near-open acceptance and participation in Cylon plans and activities ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]). The majority of this manipulation has been through religious intrigue, linked to physical threats to Baltar's well-being or that of other humans. These manipulations include:

* Using the threat of Baltar's former colleague, Dr. [[Amorak]], attempting to contact [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] with information on a "traitor" within Colonial circles -- and only "removing" this threat once Baltar has "repented of his sins" ([[33]])
* Using the threat of direct accusation (in the form of "[[Number Six#"Shelly Godfrey"|Shelly Godfrey]]") coupled with "photographic evidence" -- and only "removing" this threat once Baltar has "accepted" [[God]] into his life ([[Six Degrees of Separation]])
[[image:Scattered-Baltar_Six.jpg|thumb|300px|[[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Number Six]] seeing "the shape of things to come" in "[[Scattered]]". (C. Universal Studios)]]
Baltar's near-acquiescence to the [[God|Cylon religion]] comes when he goes through a process similar to the [[wikipedia:Evangelicalism|evangelical Christian]] belief in "rebirth" through adult baptism. In this, the new believer in the Christian faith is baptized (generally through full immersion in water), symbolizing the "death" of the "old" self and "birth" of the "new" Christian self. In "[[The Hand of God]]", Baltar apparently undergoes "death" at the hands of his inner Six when she "breaks" his neck -- and is "reborn" in his real life as the "instrument of God", able to point-out precisely where Colonial forces must strike in order to eliminate the Cylon base preventing them from accessing supplies of [[Tylium|tylium]] ([[The Hand of God]]).

This act leaves Baltar ripe for the final revelation of his role within Cylon expectations, when "the future" is revealed to him by Six on [[Kobol]], in the form of the first of "God's new generation of children" ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]). Baltar is not particularly pleased by this, especially when he learns that he is to be the father and that the mother will be Six ([[Scattered]]). Despite this, when he believes Commander Adama is trying to kill the child in one of his dreams, he tries to stop this ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

===Survival on Kobol===
While stranded on Kobol, Baltar "awoke" in a clearing filled with human bones. Number Six tells him the bones were from human sacrifices, and that all of the myths about the gods of Kobol and the paradise on Kobol were a lie to hide the true brutality of man, which increases Baltar's cynical opinion of humanity. Number Six also warns that one of the survivors of Baltar's crash would turn against the others.

The Raptor crash survivors, consisting of Baltar, Chief [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Cally]], [[Seelix]], and ranking crew member [[Crashdown]], a lieutenant, are faced with [[Cylon Centurion]]s building a missile battery that will destroy any rescue ships trying to save them. Crashdown, obsessed with success after the deaths of [[Tarn]] and [[Socinus]], orders the team to make a suicidal attack on the Cylon position. Baltar has never fired a weapon in his life and feels it could not be done. Due to the fact that he was the only non-military member of the survivors, he insists that they put it to a vote before Tyrol shouts him down to follow the chain of command.

On starting the attack, Cally freezes in terror, unable to create the needed diversion. Crashdown points his gun at her head and threatens to kill her if she does not obey the order. Immediately, Tyrol levels his gun at Crashdown. A tense standoff ensues. Just as Crashdown is about to fire, Baltar shoots him in the back, killing him instantly{{ref|killing}}. The group successfully carries out the alternate plan of attacking the Cylon's [[DRADIS]] dish, and are rescued by the Raptors. Baltar tells the [[SAR]] team that Crashdown died a hero in the fight, and Tyrol reluctantly corroborates his story ([[Fragged]]).

===Return to ''Galactica''===

Back on ''Galactica'', Baltar insists that if Roslin's presidency was terminated, as Vice President he should then succeed her in command, but Col. Tigh dismisses the notion because he has instituted martial law in [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]]. Later, Cally blackmails Baltar into making it a priority to prove that Chief Tyrol is not a Cylon, as Col. Tigh suspects, or Cally would reveal to all that it was really Baltar that killed Crashdown. Baltar pushes Cally against the wall and lectures her sternly, but she refuses to back down, telling him to "help the Chief [by] help[ing] [him]self." Incensed at this ingratitude, Baltar heads to the [[brig]] to take a blood sample from Tyrol, located in the same cell as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]], but actually injects him with a toxin that will kill him in seconds without an antidote. Baltar uses Tyrol's importance to Boomer to coerce the panicked Cylon agent to disclose how many remaining humanoid Cylons are hiding in the Fleet. He gambles that, even if Valerii was programmed to think she was human, on a subconscious level she truly ''would'' know the answer as a Cylon operative. With time running out, she shouts out "Eight!" Baltar revives Tyrol. Baltar plans to perform a series of experiments on Boomer, but she is soon killed by Cally ([[Resistance]]).

Some time later, as Commander Adama attempts to retrieve President Roslin and reunite the Fleet, Baltar yells at his internal Number Six for her increasingly ridiculous random changes in appearance, even questioning her actual existence. She responds by simplifying her appearance and attitude and told him that he truly had gone crazy, claiming there is no "computer chip" in his head with her personality, and that she is indeed a hallucination brought on by his guilt-ridden subconscious. Baltar has a brain scan performed in [[sickbay]] by Dr. [[Cottle]] (despite ''interference'' from Six), which confirms no "foreign objects" are present in his head. Baltar is ready to believe that he is truly insane when he hears [[Helo]] and [[Sharon Valerii|Caprica-Sharon]] discuss Valerii's pregnancy with a Cylon/Human hybrid child from his observation room. Six told Baltar earlier that "their child" would be born in that cell, and this leads Baltar to realize that Six ''must'' be real because his subconscious couldn't have known that. Number Six says that she is indeed real and not a hallucination. While she still denies the presence of a chip in Baltar's head, she claims to be "an angel of God sent here to protect [Baltar]". Six tells Baltar that by "their" child she is referring to Caprica-Valerii's biological child: Six considers herself the mother, and Baltar the father ([[Home, Part II]]).

When [[D'anna Biers]] films a documentary about life aboard ''Galactica'', Six urges Baltar to give an interview to try to win people over to thinking that he should be running the Fleet. Baltar performs badly as he begins his interview but, fortunately, his interview is interrupted by a Cylon attack that Biers chooses to film instead ([[Final Cut]]).

Baltar aids in trying to overcome the Cylon [[logic bomb]] which devastates ''Galactica's'' [[computers]]. Tigh's dislike of Baltar's involvement in this problem makes the scientist edgy enough to retort, "I'm sorry. Do you want to survive this one or not, Colonel?" ([[Flight of the Phoenix]])

===Arrival of ''Pegasus''===

When battlestar [[Pegasus]] reunites with the Fleet, Commander Adama requests that Baltar examine ''Pegasus' '' own Cylon prisoner to see what information he could glean from it. Upon arrival in the ''Pegasus'' brig, Baltar is horrified to discover the Cylon was a terribly abused and tortured copy of Number Six named "[[Gina]]". Baltar vows to help her in any way he could, and begins by having her restraints removed and bringing food to her. The inhumane treatment of Gina by the ''Pegasus'' crew likely makes Gaius more critical of humanity's worth ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).

Over the course of his examination of Gina, he uncovers both her wish to die and the secret of the Cylon [[Resurrection Ship]]. He passes this information to Adama and [[Helena Cain|Admiral Cain]], who develop an [[Attack on the Resurrection Ship|operation to destroy it]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).

Baltar continues to spend time with Gina, growing closer to her despite Six's pleas to the contrary and eventually helps Gina escape from the brig. He tells Gina that he can hide her, and also that he loves her. Gina goes on to kill Cain and escapes from the ''Pegasus'' through unexplained means, although it is probable that Baltar had something to do with it ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).

{{spoiltext|According to an interview with Ron D. Moore, Gina's will go on to form a sort of love triangle between Gina, Baltar and Six. Baltar's relationship with her will "continue throughout the season".}}

== Speculation: The Real Baltar? ==

For Baltar to survive the destruction of Caprica was no small matter, especially considering he was in the wake a nuclear shock wave and that the body of Six that he knew was apparently destroyed in trying to protect his in the events of the Mini-Series.

A nuclear blast's shock wave is substantial (not unlike that from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroclastic_flow pyroclastic cloud]). The shock wave would contain rocks, glass, metal, and other large debris that would bludgeon, pierce and lacerate human tissue with ease and at terrific speeds (at maximum, 1200 KPH, or 745 MPH). Such a debris-filled shock wave would obliterate Baltar's home and easily annihilate Six's body, which at those speeds would provide essentially no protection to Baltar's. (For comparison, note that, despite his superior strength, the head of the first [[Leoben Conoy]] copy encountered was bludgeoned by Commander Adama with a flashlight, and many other Humano-Cylon copies were just as easily shot or killed as easily as a human.)

Even if Baltar survived momentarily from Six's protection, either the remains of his home would have collapsed over him, likely trapping him if not killing him, or he and Six's body would also be carried away by the shock wave for some distance.

Six has had two years to gather plenty of Baltar's genetic material. Could the Baltar on ''Galactica'' be now, in fact, a Humano-Cylon?

===Why a Copy?===

Information from RDM indicate that, at the start of season 2, there are ''eight'' Cylon operatives that appear in the fleet. A Baltar copy would also had made matters very, very easy for the Cylons in their work to infiltrate the Colonial defenses and would be easily dropped in place to escape or happen to appear on a ship of the nascent Fleet. Such clones may also explain the 'fake' recording from [[Shelly Godfrey]] of Baltar compromising Colonial computer systems in a latter Season 1 episode. Perhaps it was the Cylons who doctored what was, in reality, a legitimate recording of a Baltar copy.

One notable question would be why Six have spent so much time talking to Baltar, and then have thrown herself in front of the blast if she'd intended for him to die? If Baltar was already a humano-Cylon, his consciousness from that moment would be thrown into a waking duplicate, already disheveled and scraped, where Baltar would merely think he was blown clear to safety where he could run to escape attacks with other survivors. Also, since Baltar appeared to be key in many Cylon plans, they would want to ensure that Baltar would reach any remaining humans to spy for them, and having only one copy might risk the success of such plans. Further, it is the ''psyche'' of Baltar that the Cylons may treasure most; few others in the Colonies may have the level of intelligence, arrogance, and neurosis that Baltar has that could prove as easily exploited. The guise of the great Baltar gives the Cylons a huge natural tactical advantage in that he is well known and allowed access to almost any critical battlestar location. Baltar's slick-as-oil personality aids him with better finesse and stronger charisma than any Humano-Cylon personality yet seen.

===The Baltar-as-Father Argument===

Six has stated her desire to have a child with Baltar. Humano-Cylon couplings have failed to result in offspring prior to that point ("[[The Farm]]"). If Baltar and Six were both Humano-Cylon, it is likely that offspring would either be impossible or at least exceptionally unlikely. This point gives the strongest evidence against the Baltar-as-Cylon theory, but cannot (yet) dismiss the notion.

In "[[Home, Part II]]", Six indicates that Baltar's and Six's child will be born in the isolation cage built for the ''Galactica'' copy of [[Sharon Valerii]]. The reality turned out different: The Caprica version of Valerii, pregnant by [[Helo]], now occupies the cage by the end of that episode, and Six indicates that it is in fact '''Valerii's''' child that will become Baltar's. This gives some weight back to the Baltar-as-Cylon theory since Baltar becoming a father by surrogate circumvents the need for him to do so naturally. While Caprica-Valerii shows that a female Humano-Cylon could conceive, no information is yet available on whether male Humano-Cylons could sire a child with human females. However, earlier in the first season, in "[[33]]", Six asked Baltar if he wanted to procreate with her, and at this point she may have meant an actual child of Baltar's. "Home, Part II" occurred much later in the timeline, and it is possible that the Cylons and Number Six had to alter their plans during this time. Number Six did mention in "Home, Part II" that she didn't consider Sharon "worthy" of bearing one of "God's new children" (the Humano-Cylons). Perhaps Sharon was not originally planned to be the first mother of a hybrid baby at all, and Number Six was going to have a child with the (necessarily human) Baltar, but had to shift plans when Boomer became pregnant first.

===Inside Baltar's Head===

Baltar's brain scan in "[[Home, Part II]]" confirms that the virtual Six that only Baltar can see is '''not''' an actual ''artificial'' device in his brain. This leaves a number of possibilities, of which the strongest are:

# Baltar has a device elsewhere in his body. We're not given information on whether ''all'' of Baltar's body was scanned, or just his head.
# A portion of Baltar's body ''is'' the "chip" but fashioned in a way by the Cylons that is medically indistinguishable from a regular body part and may also function normally (say, a pituitary gland)
# Baltar's body is artificial, with his personality (complete with neuroses) placed in a Humano-Cylon construct. While Baltar's psyche itself may not be that of a Cylon, the addition of the virtual Six component compliments the arrangement for the Cylon's purposes.

Possibility #3 is interesting in that, based on Baltar's own research on the Six copy known as [[Number Six#Gina|Gina]], Baltar's personality and guilt would continue to plague him either in Humano-Cylon or human form. But, if Baltar were reconstructed as a Cylon, the virtual Six aids Baltar by being, in effect, the conscience and "guardian angel" she claims to be, keeping his neuroses and guilt over the genocide from driving him completely insane--for now.

===But Cylons aren't copies of real humans===

In a 10/24/05 interview on "The Chase Show" on the SF webcast news site [http://www.thefandom.com/Article50.phtml TheFandom.com] with veteran "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" actress [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0557732/ Chase Masterson], Ron D. Moore is interviewed, remarking that "the idea is not there was one like an original human model that they were copied from". This would suggest either of two possibilities for Baltar: first, that he survived the blast and escaped, or second, that Baltar was a Cylon all along, even on Caprica.

The idea of Baltar being originally a Cylon has problems, however. If Baltar were a Cylon, it would be redundant and unnecessary for Number Six to "choose him" for her mission (unless the Cylons preferred Baltar to remain a "sleeper" throughout his mission to give "plausible deniability" in his mind as well as allow him to do what his personality is likely to do). Furthermore, from a story perspective, the idea of Baltar being a Cylon very much goes against the idea of Baltar as a traitor betraying humanity to the Cylons—as well as the idea of Baltar's relationship with Six being a true human/Cylon pairing. It should be noted, however, that Ron D. Moore's "Gaius Baltar" differs significantly from the [[Baltar (TOS)|"Baltar" of the Original Series]]. The Baltar of the Original Series was a true turncoat with megalomaniacal tendencies; Gaius, on the other hand, is not power-hungry but is driven by a strong sense of self, albeit to the exclusion and ignorance of the needs of everyone else.

Gaius is often treated by Six as a human--ultimately the only human who will be allowed to survive by the Cylons. But the human models of Cylon also behave with classically human qualities (not all of them perfect or utopian) and seem to see each other in varying emotions (admiration and contempt are prevalent when Six speaks of the pregnant Caprica Valerii). So, at the least, Gaius is treated with no less respect than any other humano-Cylon by his virtual Six. If we assume Gaius is indeed human, Six's interaction with Baltar (given the hostilities of the Cylons) borders on admiration. Although we can't necessarily use Six's emotions as a ''de facto'' gauge of Baltar's genuine humanity, it does lend to the mystery.

The storyline possibilities do change somewhat if Baltar has ''always'' been a Cylon. Note that Baltar has never spoken of his family or other friends (other than President [[Adar (RDM)|Adar]]), strongly suggesting Baltar has been a "loner." If Baltar's parentage (or offspring--he is rather promiscuous) cannot be confirmed (as has been done with Commander Adama, also on the [[Humano-Cylon#William Adama?|speculated infiltrators list]]), then the laws of physics (nuclear shock wave damage to human tissue) as well as the laws of procreation (Cylons can't quite procreate as humans do) continue to leave open the possibility that Baltar is model of Cylon, however reduced the odds are now, based on Moore's new information.

==Notes==

#{{note|hcylon}}"Humano-Cylon" is the popular ''Battlestar Wiki'' term for the humanoid Cylons. It is not a [[canon|canonical]] term found in any episode.
#{{note|chip}}The idea that Six is an actual chip in Baltar's head was dismissed by Dr. [[Cottle]]'s image scan of Baltar's head. See [[Gaius Baltar#Speculation: The Real Baltar?|the section on alternate reasons for Six's existence]] for more.
#{{note|killing}}The act of killing Crashdown appears to have led to a dramatic change in Baltar's attitude toward hurting anyone directly. When Cally tries to blackmail him after they return from Kobol, Baltar is somewhat rough with her. When he visits Tyrol and Boomer in the brig, he does not hesitate to inject Tyrol with fatal drugs to blackmail Boomer into giving Cylon secrets. Baltar's humanitarian acts to the Six copy known as Gina also suggests Baltar's attitude in the care of Cylons is further changing. More and more, Baltar appears to prefer direct intervention and is less cowardly in his attitude.
#{{note|birthplace}} Baltar's planet of birth and recruitment by the Colonial Defense Ministry to Caprica are according to SkyOne. However, information from SkyOne may not be canonical at all.

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Gaius Baltar

2006-01-16T08:30:07Z

Khaosworks: /* Arrival of ''Pegasus'' */ information from RS Parts I and II and spoilers for the future

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|role= Interim Vice President, [[Twelve Colonies|The Twelve Colonies of Kobol]])
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== Biography ==

=== Background ===

Dr. '''Gaius Baltar''' currently has two roles in the [[Government#Government_of_the_Fleet|Colonial Government]]; he is both Vice President and science adviser to the President. He was formerly a lead defense systems developer working for the [[Colonial Ministry of Defense]] and is widely considered a genius. Baltar came to prominence as a computer technology designer having won three [[Magnate Prize]]s. Baltar was born on [[The_Twelve_Colonies_(RDM)#Sagittaron |Sagittaron]] and attracted to [[The_Twelve_Colonies_(RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] by the Defense Ministry{{ref|birthplace}}. There, Baltar becomes responsible for the design of the critical [[Command Navigation Program]] (CNP) used throughout the [[Colonial Fleet]].

Elegantly dressed and aesthetically handsome, with the affected humility of the truly arrogant, Baltar is nonetheless a deeply flawed person and almost pathologically narcissist. Beneath his outstanding abilities lurks a pathological weakness of character. Self-absorbed, sly, guileful, and utterly dedicated to his own self-preservation, Baltar has carried on a two-year affair with a woman he believed to be a corporate spy -- even to the extent of using code she herself wrote to overcome shortfalls in his CNP -- and thus allows her unrestricted access to some of the most sensitive systems of the Colonial defenses.

=== [[Cylon Attack]] ===
[[image:Mini-Baltar_Six.jpg|thumb|left|300px|[[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Number Six]] kissing in the [[Mini-Series]]. (C. SciFi Channel)]]
When the Cylons launch their attack, Baltar becomes horrified to learn that his "corporate spy" lover is in fact a new type of Cylon -- a [[Humano-Cylon|Cylon in human form]]{{ref|hcylon}}, able to mimic human beings down to the smallest detail -- and that she altered his CNP as a gateway to make all integrated Colonial computers and defense systems vulnerable to a Cylon virus that subverts their command and control systems.

Appalled by the fact that his sexual folly has led to the virtual holocaust of humanity, Baltar is nevertheless determined not only to survive, but also avoid having, what amounts to, his treachery revealed.

Rescued on Caprica following the forced-landing of a Colonial [[Raptor]] -- at the cost of [[Helo|one of the crew staying behind]] ([[Mini-Series]]) -- he is pleased to find himself treated with the same esteem he enjoyed back on Caprica. His only problem is that [[Number Six]], his former "lover" -- herself ostensibly destroyed in the shock wave of a nuclear blast -- now appears to him in visions, and he cannot be sure whether this is a result of his own guilt at his actions or whether -- as she initially claims -- she is part of a chip that has been implanted in his brain{{ref|chip}}.

Shortly after Baltar's arrival on ''Galactica'', Commander [[William Adama]] learns that Cylons can mimic human form, and Baltar is put to work trying to devise a means of detecting these humanoid Cylons. By an educated guess, he exposes [[Aaron Doral]] -- a PR executive who co-ordinated the media coverage of ''Galactica's'' decommissioning -- as a Cylon agent ([[Mini-Series]]), using little more than invented [[technobabble]] to convince [[Colonel Tigh]]. Despite his protestations of innocence, Doral is marooned at [[Ragnar Anchorage]], but soon a team of Cylon agents appear to pick up the stranded Doral. Baltar's educated guess was correct--Doral was indeed a Cylon agent.

Due to his unique abilities, Baltar is charged with turning his initial "[[Cylon detector]]" into a working machine capable of screening everyone in [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]]. While he at first balks at this task, events such as the sabotaging of ''Galactica's'' water reserves ([[Water]]) force him into a position where he can no longer procrastinate over the detector -- despite his fear that such a device might somehow expose him as the original traitor among humans. Gaining aid from a most unusual source -- his "virtual" Six ([[Bastille Day]]) -- Baltar eventually develops a genuine detector, which, together with his survival of a foiled attempt to expose him as a traitor ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]), firmly establishes his credentials within the Fleet's hierarchy.

With this new-found trust, and despite his willingness to deliberately conceal vital information, such as [[Valerii, Sharon#"Boomer" Valerii|Lieutenant Valerii's]] true status as a [[Humano-Cylon|Cylon agent]] ([[Flesh and Bone]]), Baltar willing enters the realm of political leadership, first as the Representative for [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] on the [[Quorum of Twelve]], and then as the newly-elected Vice President of the Colonies ([[Colonial Day]]).

=== Cylon Manipulations ===

The Cylons commenced their direct manipulations of Baltar some two years prior to the attack on the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]], by bringing him into contact with their agent, [[Number Six]], who started a torrid affair with him while at the same time using him to access vital Colonial command and control systems within the Ministry of Defense ([[Mini-Series]]).

This manipulation continues even after the Doctor leaves Caprica behind, with Six appearing to him in sensory perceptions, possibly through an implant in his brain ([[Miniseries]]) or perhaps even through a series of psychotic hallucinations as the doctor struggles to reconcile his guilt and his desire of self-preservation.

Regardless of the cause of her appearances, Six continues to help and hinder Baltar, gradually drawing him to a point of near-open acceptance and participation in Cylon plans and activities ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]). The majority of this manipulation has been through religious intrigue, linked to physical threats to Baltar's well-being or that of other humans. These manipulations include:

* Using the threat of Baltar's former colleague, Dr. [[Amorak]], attempting to contact [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] with information on a "traitor" within Colonial circles -- and only "removing" this threat once Baltar has "repented of his sins" ([[33]])
* Using the threat of direct accusation (in the form of "[[Number Six#"Shelly Godfrey"|Shelly Godfrey]]") coupled with "photographic evidence" -- and only "removing" this threat once Baltar has "accepted" [[God]] into his life ([[Six Degrees of Separation]])
[[image:Scattered-Baltar_Six.jpg|thumb|300px|[[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Number Six]] seeing "the shape of things to come" in "[[Scattered]]". (C. Universal Studios)]]
Baltar's near-acquiescence to the [[God|Cylon religion]] comes when he goes through a process similar to the [[wikipedia:Evangelicalism|evangelical Christian]] belief in "rebirth" through adult baptism. In this, the new believer in the Christian faith is baptized (generally through full immersion in water), symbolizing the "death" of the "old" self and "birth" of the "new" Christian self. In "[[The Hand of God]]", Baltar apparently undergoes "death" at the hands of his inner Six when she "breaks" his neck -- and is "reborn" in his real life as the "instrument of God", able to point-out precisely where Colonial forces must strike in order to eliminate the Cylon base preventing them from accessing supplies of [[Tylium|tylium]] ([[The Hand of God]]).

This act leaves Baltar ripe for the final revelation of his role within Cylon expectations, when "the future" is revealed to him by Six on [[Kobol]], in the form of the first of "God's new generation of children" ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]). Baltar is not particularly pleased by this, especially when he learns that he is to be the father and that the mother will be Six ([[Scattered]]). Despite this, when he believes Commander Adama is trying to kill the child in one of his dreams, he tries to stop this ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

===Survival on Kobol===
While stranded on Kobol, Baltar "awoke" in a clearing filled with human bones. Number Six tells him the bones were from human sacrifices, and that all of the myths about the gods of Kobol and the paradise on Kobol were a lie to hide the true brutality of man, which increases Baltar's cynical opinion of humanity. Number Six also warns that one of the survivors of Baltar's crash would turn against the others.

The Raptor crash survivors, consisting of Baltar, Chief [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Cally]], [[Seelix]], and ranking crew member [[Crashdown]], a lieutenant, are faced with [[Cylon Centurion]]s building a missile battery that will destroy any rescue ships trying to save them. Crashdown, obsessed with success after the deaths of [[Tarn]] and [[Socinus]], orders the team to make a suicidal attack on the Cylon position. Baltar has never fired a weapon in his life and feels it could not be done. Due to the fact that he was the only non-military member of the survivors, he insists that they put it to a vote before Tyrol shouts him down to follow the chain of command.

On starting the attack, Cally freezes in terror, unable to create the needed diversion. Crashdown points his gun at her head and threatens to kill her if she does not obey the order. Immediately, Tyrol levels his gun at Crashdown. A tense standoff ensues. Just as Crashdown is about to fire, Baltar shoots him in the back, killing him instantly{{ref|killing}}. The group successfully carries out the alternate plan of attacking the Cylon's [[DRADIS]] dish, and are rescued by the Raptors. Baltar tells the [[SAR]] team that Crashdown died a hero in the fight, and Tyrol reluctantly corroborates his story ([[Fragged]]).

===Return to ''Galactica''===

Back on ''Galactica'', Baltar insists that if Roslin's presidency was terminated, as Vice President he should then succeed her in command, but Col. Tigh dismisses the notion because he has instituted martial law in [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]]. Later, Cally blackmails Baltar into making it a priority to prove that Chief Tyrol is not a Cylon, as Col. Tigh suspects, or Cally would reveal to all that it was really Baltar that killed Crashdown. Baltar pushes Cally against the wall and lectures her sternly, but she refuses to back down, telling him to "help the Chief [by] help[ing] [him]self." Incensed at this ingratitude, Baltar heads to the [[brig]] to take a blood sample from Tyrol, located in the same cell as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]], but actually injects him with a toxin that will kill him in seconds without an antidote. Baltar uses Tyrol's importance to Boomer to coerce the panicked Cylon agent to disclose how many remaining humanoid Cylons are hiding in the Fleet. He gambles that, even if Valerii was programmed to think she was human, on a subconscious level she truly ''would'' know the answer as a Cylon operative. With time running out, she shouts out "Eight!" Baltar revives Tyrol. Baltar plans to perform a series of experiments on Boomer, but she is soon killed by Cally ([[Resistance]]).

Some time later, as Commander Adama attempts to retrieve President Roslin and reunite the Fleet, Baltar yells at his internal Number Six for her increasingly ridiculous random changes in appearance, even questioning her actual existence. She responds by simplifying her appearance and attitude and told him that he truly had gone crazy, claiming there is no "computer chip" in his head with her personality, and that she is indeed a hallucination brought on by his guilt-ridden subconscious. Baltar has a brain scan performed in [[sickbay]] by Dr. [[Cottle]] (despite ''interference'' from Six), which confirms no "foreign objects" are present in his head. Baltar is ready to believe that he is truly insane when he hears [[Helo]] and [[Sharon Valerii|Caprica-Sharon]] discuss Valerii's pregnancy with a Cylon/Human hybrid child from his observation room. Six told Baltar earlier that "their child" would be born in that cell, and this leads Baltar to realize that Six ''must'' be real because his subconscious couldn't have known that. Number Six says that she is indeed real and not a hallucination. While she still denies the presence of a chip in Baltar's head, she claims to be "an angel of God sent here to protect [Baltar]". Six tells Baltar that by "their" child she is referring to Caprica-Valerii's biological child: Six considers herself the mother, and Baltar the father ([[Home, Part II]]).

When [[D'anna Biers]] films a documentary about life aboard ''Galactica'', Six urges Baltar to give an interview to try to win people over to thinking that he should be running the Fleet. Baltar performs badly as he begins his interview but, fortunately, his interview is interrupted by a Cylon attack that Biers chooses to film instead ([[Final Cut]]).

Baltar aids in trying to overcome the Cylon [[logic bomb]] which devastates ''Galactica's'' [[computers]]. Tigh's dislike of Baltar's involvement in this problem makes the scientist edgy enough to retort, "I'm sorry. Do you want to survive this one or not, Colonel?" ([[Flight of the Phoenix]])

===Arrival of ''Pegasus''===

When battlestar [[Pegasus]] reunites with the Fleet, Commander Adama requests that Baltar examine ''Pegasus' '' own Cylon prisoner to see what information he could glean from it. Upon arrival in the ''Pegasus'' brig, Baltar is horrified to discover the Cylon was a terribly abused and tortured copy of Number Six named "[[Gina]]". Baltar vows to help her in any way he could, and begins by having her restraints removed and bringing food to her. The inhumane treatment of Gina by the ''Pegasus'' crew likely makes Gaius more critical of humanity's worth ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).

Over the course of his examination of Gina, he uncovers both her wish to die and the secret of the Cylon [[Resurrection Ship]]. He passes this information to Adama and [[Helena Cain|Admiral Cain]], who develop an operation to destroy it ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).

Baltar continues to spend time with Gina, growing closer to her despite Six's pleas to the contrary and eventually helps Gina escape from the brig. He tells Gina that he can hide her, and also that he loves her. Gina goes on to kill Cain and escapes from the ''Pegasus'' through unexplained means, although it is probable that Baltar had something to do with it ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).

{{spoiltext|According to an interview with Ron D. Moore, Gina's will go on to form a sort of love triangle between Gina, Baltar and Six. Baltar's relationship with her will "continue throughout the season".}}

== Speculation: The Real Baltar? ==

For Baltar to survive the destruction of Caprica was no small matter, especially considering he was in the wake a nuclear shock wave and that the body of Six that he knew was apparently destroyed in trying to protect his in the events of the Mini-Series.

A nuclear blast's shock wave is substantial (not unlike that from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroclastic_flow pyroclastic cloud]). The shock wave would contain rocks, glass, metal, and other large debris that would bludgeon, pierce and lacerate human tissue with ease and at terrific speeds (at maximum, 1200 KPH, or 745 MPH). Such a debris-filled shock wave would obliterate Baltar's home and easily annihilate Six's body, which at those speeds would provide essentially no protection to Baltar's. (For comparison, note that, despite his superior strength, the head of the first [[Leoben Conoy]] copy encountered was bludgeoned by Commander Adama with a flashlight, and many other Humano-Cylon copies were just as easily shot or killed as easily as a human.)

Even if Baltar survived momentarily from Six's protection, either the remains of his home would have collapsed over him, likely trapping him if not killing him, or he and Six's body would also be carried away by the shock wave for some distance.

Six has had two years to gather plenty of Baltar's genetic material. Could the Baltar on ''Galactica'' be now, in fact, a Humano-Cylon?

===Why a Copy?===

Information from RDM indicate that, at the start of season 2, there are ''eight'' Cylon operatives that appear in the fleet. A Baltar copy would also had made matters very, very easy for the Cylons in their work to infiltrate the Colonial defenses and would be easily dropped in place to escape or happen to appear on a ship of the nascent Fleet. Such clones may also explain the 'fake' recording from [[Shelly Godfrey]] of Baltar compromising Colonial computer systems in a latter Season 1 episode. Perhaps it was the Cylons who doctored what was, in reality, a legitimate recording of a Baltar copy.

One notable question would be why Six have spent so much time talking to Baltar, and then have thrown herself in front of the blast if she'd intended for him to die? If Baltar was already a humano-Cylon, his consciousness from that moment would be thrown into a waking duplicate, already disheveled and scraped, where Baltar would merely think he was blown clear to safety where he could run to escape attacks with other survivors. Also, since Baltar appeared to be key in many Cylon plans, they would want to ensure that Baltar would reach any remaining humans to spy for them, and having only one copy might risk the success of such plans. Further, it is the ''psyche'' of Baltar that the Cylons may treasure most; few others in the Colonies may have the level of intelligence, arrogance, and neurosis that Baltar has that could prove as easily exploited. The guise of the great Baltar gives the Cylons a huge natural tactical advantage in that he is well known and allowed access to almost any critical battlestar location. Baltar's slick-as-oil personality aids him with better finesse and stronger charisma than any Humano-Cylon personality yet seen.

===The Baltar-as-Father Argument===

Six has stated her desire to have a child with Baltar. Humano-Cylon couplings have failed to result in offspring prior to that point ("[[The Farm]]"). If Baltar and Six were both Humano-Cylon, it is likely that offspring would either be impossible or at least exceptionally unlikely. This point gives the strongest evidence against the Baltar-as-Cylon theory, but cannot (yet) dismiss the notion.

In "[[Home, Part II]]", Six indicates that Baltar's and Six's child will be born in the isolation cage built for the ''Galactica'' copy of [[Sharon Valerii]]. The reality turned out different: The Caprica version of Valerii, pregnant by [[Helo]], now occupies the cage by the end of that episode, and Six indicates that it is in fact '''Valerii's''' child that will become Baltar's. This gives some weight back to the Baltar-as-Cylon theory since Baltar becoming a father by surrogate circumvents the need for him to do so naturally. While Caprica-Valerii shows that a female Humano-Cylon could conceive, no information is yet available on whether male Humano-Cylons could sire a child with human females. However, earlier in the first season, in "[[33]]", Six asked Baltar if he wanted to procreate with her, and at this point she may have meant an actual child of Baltar's. "Home, Part II" occurred much later in the timeline, and it is possible that the Cylons and Number Six had to alter their plans during this time. Number Six did mention in "Home, Part II" that she didn't consider Sharon "worthy" of bearing one of "God's new children" (the Humano-Cylons). Perhaps Sharon was not originally planned to be the first mother of a hybrid baby at all, and Number Six was going to have a child with the (necessarily human) Baltar, but had to shift plans when Boomer became pregnant first.

===Inside Baltar's Head===

Baltar's brain scan in "[[Home, Part II]]" confirms that the virtual Six that only Baltar can see is '''not''' an actual ''artificial'' device in his brain. This leaves a number of possibilities, of which the strongest are:

# Baltar has a device elsewhere in his body. We're not given information on whether ''all'' of Baltar's body was scanned, or just his head.
# A portion of Baltar's body ''is'' the "chip" but fashioned in a way by the Cylons that is medically indistinguishable from a regular body part and may also function normally (say, a pituitary gland)
# Baltar's body is artificial, with his personality (complete with neuroses) placed in a Humano-Cylon construct. While Baltar's psyche itself may not be that of a Cylon, the addition of the virtual Six component compliments the arrangement for the Cylon's purposes.

Possibility #3 is interesting in that, based on Baltar's own research on the Six copy known as [[Number Six#Gina|Gina]], Baltar's personality and guilt would continue to plague him either in Humano-Cylon or human form. But, if Baltar were reconstructed as a Cylon, the virtual Six aids Baltar by being, in effect, the conscience and "guardian angel" she claims to be, keeping his neuroses and guilt over the genocide from driving him completely insane--for now.

===But Cylons aren't copies of real humans===

In a 10/24/05 interview on "The Chase Show" on the SF webcast news site [http://www.thefandom.com/Article50.phtml TheFandom.com] with veteran "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" actress [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0557732/ Chase Masterson], Ron D. Moore is interviewed, remarking that "the idea is not there was one like an original human model that they were copied from". This would suggest either of two possibilities for Baltar: first, that he survived the blast and escaped, or second, that Baltar was a Cylon all along, even on Caprica.

The idea of Baltar being originally a Cylon has problems, however. If Baltar were a Cylon, it would be redundant and unnecessary for Number Six to "choose him" for her mission (unless the Cylons preferred Baltar to remain a "sleeper" throughout his mission to give "plausible deniability" in his mind as well as allow him to do what his personality is likely to do). Furthermore, from a story perspective, the idea of Baltar being a Cylon very much goes against the idea of Baltar as a traitor betraying humanity to the Cylons—as well as the idea of Baltar's relationship with Six being a true human/Cylon pairing. It should be noted, however, that Ron D. Moore's "Gaius Baltar" differs significantly from the [[Baltar (TOS)|"Baltar" of the Original Series]]. The Baltar of the Original Series was a true turncoat with megalomaniacal tendencies; Gaius, on the other hand, is not power-hungry but is driven by a strong sense of self, albeit to the exclusion and ignorance of the needs of everyone else.

Gaius is often treated by Six as a human--ultimately the only human who will be allowed to survive by the Cylons. But the human models of Cylon also behave with classically human qualities (not all of them perfect or utopian) and seem to see each other in varying emotions (admiration and contempt are prevalent when Six speaks of the pregnant Caprica Valerii). So, at the least, Gaius is treated with no less respect than any other humano-Cylon by his virtual Six. If we assume Gaius is indeed human, Six's interaction with Baltar (given the hostilities of the Cylons) borders on admiration. Although we can't necessarily use Six's emotions as a ''de facto'' gauge of Baltar's genuine humanity, it does lend to the mystery.

The storyline possibilities do change somewhat if Baltar has ''always'' been a Cylon. Note that Baltar has never spoken of his family or other friends (other than President [[Adar (RDM)|Adar]]), strongly suggesting Baltar has been a "loner." If Baltar's parentage (or offspring--he is rather promiscuous) cannot be confirmed (as has been done with Commander Adama, also on the [[Humano-Cylon#William Adama?|speculated infiltrators list]]), then the laws of physics (nuclear shock wave damage to human tissue) as well as the laws of procreation (Cylons can't quite procreate as humans do) continue to leave open the possibility that Baltar is model of Cylon, however reduced the odds are now, based on Moore's new information.

==Notes==

#{{note|hcylon}}"Humano-Cylon" is the popular ''Battlestar Wiki'' term for the humanoid Cylons. It is not a [[canon|canonical]] term found in any episode.
#{{note|chip}}The idea that Six is an actual chip in Baltar's head was dismissed by Dr. [[Cottle]]'s image scan of Baltar's head. See [[Gaius Baltar#Speculation: The Real Baltar?|the section on alternate reasons for Six's existence]] for more.
#{{note|killing}}The act of killing Crashdown appears to have led to a dramatic change in Baltar's attitude toward hurting anyone directly. When Cally tries to blackmail him after they return from Kobol, Baltar is somewhat rough with her. When he visits Tyrol and Boomer in the brig, he does not hesitate to inject Tyrol with fatal drugs to blackmail Boomer into giving Cylon secrets. Baltar's humanitarian acts to the Six copy known as Gina also suggests Baltar's attitude in the care of Cylons is further changing. More and more, Baltar appears to prefer direct intervention and is less cowardly in his attitude.
#{{note|birthplace}} Baltar's planet of birth and recruitment by the Colonial Defense Ministry to Caprica are according to SkyOne. However, information from SkyOne may not be canonical at all.

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Helena Cain

2006-01-16T08:22:26Z

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{{Character Data|
|photo=[[Image:Nelena.jpg|200px]]
|age= 38 (Based on age of actress [[Michelle Forbes]])
|colony=[[Tauron]]
|birthname=Helena Cain
|callsign=
|death= Shot by [[Gina]] aboard Pegasus, in Cain's quarters. ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])
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|role=Commanding Officer, [[Battlestar]] ''[[Pegasus]]''
|rank=Admiral
|actor=[[Michelle Forbes]]
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Admiral '''Helena Cain''', hailing from the colony [[Tauron]], is commander of the [[Mercury class battlestar]] ''[[Pegasus]]''. At the time of the [[Cylon attack]], her battlestar is stationed at the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] for upgrades and shore leave. As the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] attack, destroying other battlestars and support ships there, Cain orders a [[Blind jump|blind Jump]], gambling that the result of such an impromptu (and inadvisable) escape would be better than the alternative of destruction.

Somehow, she rescues survivors from the Shipyards, including a woman named [[Gina]]. Gina, later discovered as a [[Humano-Cylon|Cylon agent]], summarily caused the death of 800 persons under Cain's command when she informs the Cylons of their survival. Thwarting that, Cain leads the battlestar away from the [[Twelve Colonies]], following a Cylon fleet that trailed what they discover as sister battlestar ''[[Galactica]]''.

Cain not only enjoys the sensation of power, but also the acquisition of more of it. Upon meeting up with Commander [[William Adama]]'s [[Fleet]], she assumes command and transfers personnel from ''Galactica'' to ''Pegasus'', including [[Lee Adama]] and [[Kara Thrace]], indicating that Adama has let military discipline become too lax. Cain is more interested in fighting the Cylons, seemingly oblivious to the point that she and the ships around her are all that was left of the human race, whose survival is more paramount than offensive assaults. While Adama initially welcomes such attacks against a mysterious Cylon force that followed the Fleet (to stop it from following them), his attitude begins to cool about Cain's very strict and unmerciful leadership.

Cain's actions also raise concerns with President [[Laura Roslin]]. Cain recognizes Roslin and her former role as Secretary of Education. After the Fleet command transfer from Adama to Cain, Roslin makes several attempts to call Cain to request supplies for the civilian fleet, but all of Roslin's calls are ignored.

Cain may also show brutal behavior when commanding her own staff, according to a conversation over alcohol that Colonel [[Saul Tigh]] has with his ''Pegasus'' counterpart, Colonel [[Jack Fisk]]. Fisk comments that, after ''Pegasus' ''initially escapes, the battlestar once tries to attack a Cylon communications relay -- an easy target. On arrival in the system, however, it turns out the target is a Cylon staging area, filled with 15 squadrons of [[Raider]]s. Admiral Cain ordered her previous Executive Officer, a man she had served with for years, to carry out the attack anyway, but he refuses the order in the face of such odds. Admiral Cain asked the XO for his gun, and shot him in the head in front of the crew in the Pegasus [[CIC]]. Cain then turned to Fisk and ordered him to launch the attack, which he did. After relating this story to Col. Tigh, Col. Fisk says he is joking about the incident.

Although the story could be unreliable because Fisk is drunk at the time, Tigh relays the story and his suspicions of his likelihood to Adama. Adama cautions that ''Galactica's'' crew has also made some questionable actions since the attack. Even if the story is true, Adama is willing to give Cain the benefit of the doubt and not question the matter further.

After the suspect fatal assault of one of her crew members, Lieutenant [[Thorne]], Cain arrests Chief [[Tyrol]] and Lieutenant Karl "[[Helo]]" Agathon and flies them to ''Pegasus'', under Adama's protest, since traditionally a trial is held on the ship where an incident has occurred. Cain uses ''Galactica's'' log against Adama when he asks for a tribunal; Cain notes that Adama dismissed the last council unilaterally when the verdict did not suit him. Cain summarily court-martials the prisoners herself in a matter of hours, sentencing them to death. Commander Adama is far from pleased, and orders an assault crew to head for ''Pegasus'' to bring his men back. Cain responds by deploying her squadrons of advanced Mark VII Vipers against Adama's museum collection of Mark II Vipers in a tense standoff ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).

The tense game of chicken that ensued was ended by Starbuck and the [[Blackbird]] when she returned from her recon mission. Starbuck then transmitted the pictures she took of the [[Resurrection Ship]] back to the Pegasus [[CIC]]. Upon Starbuck's return to Pegasus, Cain is so impressed with her performance that she promotes Starbuck to Captain and Pegasus [[CAG]], replacing the competent but uncreative and inflexible Capt. [[Cole Taylor|Taylor]]. Cain tasks Starbuck with planning the Galactica-Pegasus joint strike on the Resurrection Ship.

After Starbuck briefs both Adama, Apollo, and Cain on her plan to attack the Resurrection Ship, Adama pulls Starbuck aside and outlines a plan to assassinate Cain following the attack. ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]) Fortunatley for Cain, Adama never orders Starbuck to carry out her orders.

Unfortunatley for Cain, shortly after Adama's window to assassinate Cain had passed, [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] helped Gina escape from the brig. Gina then made her way to Cain's quarters and shot Cain at point blank range, presumably killing her instantly. Cain's final words were "[[frak]] you."

Cain's funeral was given with full military honors, with Fisk and Starbuck giving eulogies. Though Starbuck only knew Cain briefly, she obviously admired the woman, stating "we were better off with her than without her." ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]])

== Notes ==

*Helena Cain is inspired by the character of Commander [[Cain (TOS)|Cain]] from the original ''[[Battlestar Galactica (1978)|Battlestar Galactica]]'', portrayed by the late [[Lloyd Bridges]].

*Actress Michelle Forbes guest starred as Dara Timicin in the ''[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation Star Trek: The Next Generation]'' episode "Half a Life" and had a recurring role as Ensign [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Ro_Laren Ro Laren] during the last three seasons of ''[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation Star Trek: The Next Generation]''. ''Battlestar Galactica'' executive producer [[Ronald D. Moore]], also a ''TNG'' veteran, wrote for her character in the episodes [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Disaster Disaster] and [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Next_Phase The Next Phase].

*Cain's habit of expediting meetings by conducting them without chairs is borrowed from UN Ambassador [[Wikipedia:John R. Bolton|John R. Bolton]]. (Source: "Pegasus" podcast)

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Dirk Benedict

2006-01-16T05:19:50Z

Khaosworks: typo

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Actor '''Dirk Benedict''' played the womanizing, cigar-smoking, card playing and incredibly skilled Colonial Warrior known as Lieutenant [[Starbuck (TOS)|Starbuck]] in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original ''Battlestar Galactica'' series]].

Born in Montana in 1945, Benedict (his last name a stage name given to himself after a serving of Eggs Benedict) was a excellent high school athlete and aspiring musician.

His acting career began with an odd bet with his college football team members, which landed him in a leading role in a show at Whitman College in the state of Washington, and starring in many other productions. Graduating from college with a degree in Music, Benedict decided to pursue acting as a career, under the tutelage of John Fernald. Benedict played many roles in summer stock, performing many roles in classic plays by Shakespeare and Ipsen.

Benedict moved to New York and found supporting roles in several Broadway shows, including the leading role in the play, "Butterflies Are Free" with the late Gloria Swanson, who portrayed his mother.

Benedict found himself in small but interesting roles in some TV series, including work in "Hawaii Five-O" and the lead in a one-season show by TV show mogul Aaron Spelling called "Chopper One." Benedict left acting for a few years in a lifelong desire to visit every state in the U.S.

Benedict's casting as "Starbuck" in "Battlestar Galactica" made him nationally famous. He made an appearance on the final episode of "[[Galactica 1980]]", entitled "[[The Return of Starbuck]]". This episode is considered by fans of the Original Series as the only significant contribution from "Galactica 1980", a show otherwise considered [[canon|noncanonical]] by many.

After these series, Benedict found popularity again as the character of Templeton "Face" Peck on the long-running early-1980s TV series, "The A-Team", produced by "Galactica"'s owner, Universal. In the show's opening credits in later seasons, a Cylon Warrior is shown walking by Benedict's character, who gives an peculiarly humorous look of recognition of the robot as an in-joke to the actor's past role as Starbuck.

Benedict returned to the stage after "Galactica" as well, gaining fame in many popular roles there, and played guest and starring roles in a handful of TV movies and series.

As casting for the [[Tom DeSanto|Singer/DeSanto Continuation Project]] of a new "Battlestar Galactica" series in 2001 began, Benedict was slated to play an older Starbuck in the new series. However, the project folded due to Bryan Singer's movie directing committments and delays caused by the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the TV industry.

Benedict has yet to see a casting in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. He was considered for the role of the [[Armistice Officer]], but passed on the project. In another instance, he was considered to play a cigar-smoking [[God]] of the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] in a dream sequence with [[Gaius Baltar]] in a Season 1 episode, but the idea was later dismissed.

Benedict (with fellow Original Series actor [[Richard Hatch]]) loaned his voice talents as the Original Series Starbuck to the [[Video Game|Battlestar Galactica video game]] that appeared in 2003. The characters of Starbuck and Apollo are available as wingmen pilots for the game player, using a game cheat.

Dirk lives in Montana with his sons, George and Roland.

==See Also==

[http://www.dirkbenedictcentral.com/ DirkBenedictCentral, A (possibly official) website for Dirk Benedict]

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Talk:Dirk Benedict/Archive 1

2006-01-16T05:19:17Z

Khaosworks:

Updated from Dirk's site (probably official) as well as other online sources that corraborate the same information. Cool, he has a son named Roland as well. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:54, 10 January 2006 (EST)

Shouldn't there be a mention about his borderline psychotic rant/editorial against the reimagined series? --[[User:Khaosworks|khaosworks]] ([[User talk:Khaosworks|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Khaosworks|contribs]]) 00:19, 16 January 2006 (EST)

Adama (TOS)

2006-01-16T03:03:53Z

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{{Character Data|
|photo= [[Image:Adamapromo.jpg|150px]]
|age= Appears to be in his 60s(Earth years)
|colony= Caprica
|birthname= Adama
|callsign=
|death=
|parents=
|siblings=
|children= [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]], [[Athena (TOS)|Athena]], and [[Zac|Zac]] ([[KIA]])
|marital status= Widowed; formerly [[sealed]] to [[Ila]]
|role= Commander of [[Galactica (TOS)|Battlestar ''Galactica'']], President of the [[Quorum of Twelve (TOS)|Quorum of Twelve]]
|rank= Commander
|actor= [[Lorne Greene]]
|cylon=
}}
== Biography ==

Commander Adama is a central character in the original [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Battlestar Galactica TV series]]. He was played by Lorne Greene.

Adama is the commander of the great military vessel Battlestar [[Galactica (TOS)|''Galactica'']], commander of the [[The Fleet (TOS)|refugee fleet]], and military commander of the evacuees of the [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)|Twelve Colonies]]. He is also the spiritual leader of the surviving Colonists, leading the quest for Earth. As such, Adama is central to the story arc of the series, and in some ways the saga revolves around him.

He has a daughter Lieutenant [[Athena (TOS)|Athena]] and son Captain [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]] who feature in the series. His wife [[Ila]], and his second son, [[Zac]], were killed in the [[Cylons (TOS)|Cylon]] [[Battle of Cimtar|attack on the Twelve Colonies]].

Adama is a native of the planet [[Caprica]], which is where he graduated from military academy.

Early in his career Adama was involved in a parapsychological research project at the Colonial Military Institute. He flew with his executive officer Colonel [[Tigh (TOS)|Tigh]] in their younger days, and later served as an aide to Commander [[Kronus]] aboard Battlestar ''[[Rycon]]''.

As well as being a career military officer, Commander Adama is also a member of the [[Quorum of Twelve (TOS)|Quorum of Twelve]], the governing body of the Colonies.

Adama was mistrustful of the Cylons at the time of the [[Cimtar Peace Accord|Peace Conference]] to end the 1,000 year [[Thousand-Yahren War|Cylon War]], and as a result ''Galactica'' was the only battlestar to survive the Cylon sneak attack. Despite the destruction and great personal loss, Adama was able organize the survivors in an escape from the Cylons and lead them on the search for [[Earth]] ([[Saga of a Star World (TOS)|Saga of a Star World]]).

Adama is a fair and beloved leader, with almost unquestioned authority. He is a deeply religious man, and his visit to the planet [[Kobol#Kobol In the Original Series|Kobol]] ([[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II (TOS)|Lost Planet of the Gods]]) and the Fleet's encounter with the [[Beings of Light]] ([[War of the Gods, Part II (TOS)|War of the Gods]]) strengthened his belief that someday Earth would be found.

Adama was also featured in the 1978 theatrical release Battlestar Galactica. He was one of the few Galactica crewmembers to reappear in the sequel series [[Galactica 1980]].

== Notes ==
*Adama's name is a variation of the name [[Wikipedia:Adam and Eve|"Adam"]], the first man to be created according to the Bible in the [[Wikipedia:Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. Despite the origin of Adama's name, he functioned more like a [[Wikipedia:Moses|Moses]]-type patriarch as he led and defended the Fleet time and time again.
*Despite the fact that Moses never made it to his people's Promised Land, the character of Adama (as well as the actor) did return for the "[[Galactica 1980]]" series, when the Fleet finally reached Earth. Greene was one of two regulars that returned, the other being [[Herb Jefferson Jr.|Jefferson]] as a promoted [[Boomer (TOS)|Colonel Boomer]]. Greene also donned a Moses-like beard for "1980".
*[[Wikipedia:Adama|Adama]] (also known as Nazareth) is also the name of a large city in Ethiopia

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