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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: &lt;/p&gt;
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| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;font-size: 90%;&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;Re-Imagined Series [[Colonial battles chronology (RDM)|Colonial battles]] list&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;font-size: 90%;&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;Pre-First [[Cylon War]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of Atlas Arena]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Operation Raptor Talon]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of Tauron]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of the Communications Relay]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Caprica Insurrection]]&lt;br /&gt;
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|align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;font-size: 90%;&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;Escape from the Cylons&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Skirmish over the Red Moon]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of Kobol (TRS)|Battle of Kobol]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of the Binary Star System]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Battle of the Guardian basestar]] |&lt;br /&gt;
[[Rescue on Caprica]] |&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Standoff Between Galactica and Pegasus]] |&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Battle of The Colony]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>The Twelve Colonies of Kobol</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: /* Notes */ Minor change, there is no government of England specificity, so it&amp;#039;s incorrect to refer to it especially as the government concerned is for the whole UK.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the Twelve Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. See [[The Twelve Colonies of Man]] for information on the Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Colonialseal.png|210px|right|[[Colonial Seal|Seal]] of the Twelve Colonies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The Twelve Colonies of Kobol&#039;&#039;&#039; are twelve distinct worlds, located in a remote part of the galaxy. For 2,000 years they were home to the human survivors of the exodus of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mentioned at [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11953827897 Serge&#039;s twitter account], given that Serge&#039;s account corresponds to 58 years before [[The Fall]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of the two millennia that these worlds were inhabited, the Twelve Colonies consisted of multiple sovereign states, but during the final fifty-two years leading up to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], all twelve comprised a single state known as the United Colonies of Kobol ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The formal &amp;quot;United Colonies of Kobol&amp;quot; was never used on-screen, and appears only on the [[Battlestar Galactica Map of the 12 Colonies]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the settlement, the colonies slowly began to prosper and eventually gave birth to a race of cybernetic lifeforms, known as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. Soon after their creation, the Cylons raged a devastating war on their creators&#039; home planets, which ultimately led to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. Wasted and in ruins, the once prosperous homeworlds of humanity are finally abandoned by both humans and Cylons. What becomes of them is unknown to their inhabitants&#039; descendants. &lt;br /&gt;
{{RDM twelve colonies series}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star System==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Note: A portion of the information listed below is taken from the [[Battlestar_Wiki:Canon#Official|official]], &amp;quot;quasi-canon&amp;quot; [[Battlestar Galactica Map of the 12 Colonies]]&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;io9&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_web|url=http://io9.com/5742034/a-detailed-map-of-battlestar-galacticas-twelve-colonies?skyline=true&amp;amp;s=i|title=Detailed Map Of Battlestar Galactica&#039;s Twelve Colonies|date=24 January 2010|accessdate=29 January 2011|last=Anders|first=Charlie Jane|format=|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Twelve Colonies are found within the star system Cyrannus, located some 2,000 light years from Kobol, where humanity first evolved. In total, Cyrannus is a vast and complex system, comprised of four &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In [[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]],&amp;quot; a Cylon [[Hybrid]] indicates that the Colonies orbit three stars. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stars: Helios Alpha, Helios Beta, Helios Gamma, and Helios Delta. Each star is orbited by its own share of planets and other astronomical bodies. The stars come together to form two binary systems (Alpha/Beta and Gamma/Delta). Both pairs of stars then orbit each other around a third, central barycenter every 546,892 years. Both binary systems are separated by .16 light years or 10,091 SU.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Alpha===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Alpha is a main sequence star of spectral class G2V and has a mass of 1.0 kg, and was the first system settled by the Colonials after the exodus from Kobol, having first set foot on Gemenon. It shares its orbit with Helios Beta at a distance of 63 SU (In this case, 1 SU being equal to the average distance between Helios Alpha and the barycenter of the Caprica-Gemenon system, a rough 150 million km). The pair complete an orbit once every 373 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** Icarus - A small planet located close to the star. It has a molten surface which makes mining and exploration impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
** Picon&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] and Gemenon - These two colonies are twin planets.&lt;br /&gt;
** Erebos asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] - One of only three colonies to feature a moon, named Minos, and it is the only moon with a ring. It is home to several mining and scientific outposts.   &lt;br /&gt;
** Zeus - A gas giant located at the outer edge of the system. This gas giant is the largest planet in the four systems, with a diameter of 153,000 km at the equator. The planet has 74 moons, the largest of which are Nike and Hebe. Constant upper atmosphere lightning creates an aurora effect that can be seen with the naked eye. &lt;br /&gt;
** Persephone - Classified as a dwarf planet, Persephone is the last planet in the system and features an inclined and eccentric orbit. Colonial scientists believe this planet could be an escaped moon of Zeus.&lt;br /&gt;
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This system is unique in the fact that Caprica and Gemenon share an orbit around a common barycenter. According to the Colonial map, the planets orbit each other once every 28.2 days, and are separated by a distance of 493,000 km.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Beta===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Beta is a main sequence star of spectral class K1V and has a mass of 0.79 kg. It is the second system settled by the Colonials after the exodus from Kobol. It shares its orbit with Helios Alpha at a distance of 63 SU. The pair complete an orbit once every 373 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Troy (RDM)|Troy]] - A small, metal-rich planet, mined extensively by Virgon and Leonis since the founding of those two colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
** Leonis&lt;br /&gt;
** Ouranos asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Virgon - One of only three colonies to feature a moon, named Hibernia, and the only naturally habitable moon in the 12 Colonies. It was settled several centuries ago by the Celtans, an ethnic group opposed to Virgon rule.&lt;br /&gt;
** Hera - A gas giant, approximately 75,000 km in diameter, and the third largest planet in the Cyrannus system. It has 29 moons, the largest of what are Iris and Eubora. &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Pallas]] - A small world with an inclined orbit once believed to hold a life sustaining atmosphere. It is no longer tectonically active. However, the Colonials have set up at least seven small colonies and a military research station on the planet. Efforts to kobolform the planet have failed.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Gamma===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Gamma is a main sequence star of spectral class G9V and has a mass of 0.89 kg. It is presumably the third system settled by the Colonials. Helios Gamma shares its orbit with Helios Delta at a distance of 70 SU, and completes an orbit once every 456 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** Thanatos - A small planet with a corrosive &#039;sulphur&#039; dioxide atmosphere. This planet is tidally locked to the star, and aptly named for the god of death.&lt;br /&gt;
** Acheron asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Scorpia - Home to the Scorpia Fleet ship yards. The planet features a half ring, thought to be a moon that broke apart nearly 100,000 years ago. &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Sagittaron|Sagittaron]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Libran - Features two small moons, Herse and Pandrossos, which are thought to be captured asteroids. The moons orbit so close to each other, they periodically swap positions. &lt;br /&gt;
** Ophion - A frigid gas giant with diameter of 51,000 km, and an inclined orbit. The planet has 14 moons, all smaller than 10 km in diameter. Studies on the planet have Colonial scientists thinking that Ragnar was originally a member of the Helios Gamma system, while Ophion was not. Scientists think that Ophion was a rouge planet that passed close to Ragnar and was caught by the star, pushing Ragnar into its current orbit around the entire Gamma/Delta system.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Delta===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Delta is a reddish main sequence star of the spectral class K2V and has a mass of 0.74 kg. It is the last of the four systems to be settled by the Colonials. Helios Delta shares its orbit with Helios Gamma at a distance of 70 SU, and completes an orbit once every 456 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** Phoebe - A small world with a high surface temperature and thin atmosphere. &lt;br /&gt;
** Aeolus asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Aerilon, Hestia, and Canceron - These planets share the same orbit.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Hestia - The smallest gas giant in the Cyrannian star system, Hestia only has a diameter of 47,000 km. It has 17 moons, the largest of which, Kronos and Rhea, share the same orbit. &lt;br /&gt;
** Aquaria&lt;br /&gt;
** Styx - A small planet, with a dense, reducing atmosphere of carbon dioxide, and sulfides.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This system is unique in the fact that Aerilon, Hestia, and Canceron share the same orbit. The planets sit comfortably in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point Lagrangian Points], meaning that the gravitational pull of Helios Delta and Hestia are balanced, allowing two smaller bodies (Aerilon and Canceron) to share the same orbit in a &amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot; position, maintaining the same distance apart at all times. Aerilon sits at the L4 point, and Canceron at the L5 point. &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Ragnar]] - A gas giant with a diameter of 138,000 km, orbits the entire Helios Gamma and Delta system in a 899.75 year period. It sits about 110 SU away from the central barycenter. The Colonials use the planet as host to [[Ragnar Anchorage]], an orbital refueling station and naval armory that distills hydrocarbons from the planet&#039;s upper atmosphere. It has one moon, Sigurd. During the Fall of the Colonies, Ragnar was used as cover by the Battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, and later her [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], after escaping the destruction of Caprica. It would be the last world of the Cyrannian system that most of the surviving Colonials would lay eyes on. Hours after arriving, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; took the gathered fleet, [[Battle_of_Ragnar_Anchorage|and fled the systems]], never to return.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The fact that the Colonies are located within one system originates from a [http://web.archive.org/web/20080620084336/http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/#a000016 blog entry] by Ronald D. Moore.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jane Espenson revealed on Twitter that the Colonies are within a star cluster and share some orbits. The latter fact was finally shown to be true in the TV version of the [[Caprica pilot#Differences between the DVD and TV Cut|series premiere]] of &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Before the canonical figure mentioned above the original [[Miniseries]] script stated a pre-Fall population of about 12 billion. The webisodes &amp;quot;[[The Resistance]]&amp;quot; stated the death of 20 billion people caused by the Cylons. &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/17543741200 mentions] that the exodus from Kobol is believed to be true by the inhabitants of the Twelve Colonies and it was from them that animals such as cats as well as dogs came to the Colonies. Furthermore, the [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/13899240134 twelve planets] are populated with a few other worlds in the star cluster but not many with the settled colonies [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/12891949300 already] possessing some animal as well as plant life. Furthermore, Serge [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/17543813025 states] that all the planets are not democracies but rather each has their own style of government.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|History of the Twelve Colonies}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Home pt1-Kobol.jpg|thumb|[[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], the ancient homeworld of humanity.]]&lt;br /&gt;
About 2,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the last twelve tribes of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] left their planet&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to dialogue from &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[A Measure of Salvation]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;, the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] left Kobol some 2,000 years &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039; the twelve tribes. The Scroll of [[Pythia]] is dated as written 3,600 years before the last exodus of Kobol, and chronicles the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s exodus.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; over conflicts with their [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|gods]], as well as some sort of calamity ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The tribes settled on twelve worlds some distance away ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The tribes&#039; namesakes and icons originally corresponded to the twelve signs of the ancient tribes, although these [[wikipedia:Zodiac|names]] drifted over time ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Flag matches with Colonies from &amp;quot;Encyclopedia Galactica.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]&#039;&#039;. Feb./Mar. 2006: 50-55.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The early Colonies lived (and fought) more as sovereign nations. Some (particularly [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]) prospered, while others (such as [[Sagittaron]] and [[Aerilon]]) were often considered lessers. For peacetime labor forces as well as for wars between each other, humanity created the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. When these [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|early models]] rebelled, the Colonies unified their governments under the [[Articles of Colonization]] sometime before or during the [[Cylon War]] as a federal republic known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Twelve Colonies of Kobol&#039;&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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The official symbol of the Twelve Colonies was the [[Colonial seal]]. The nation also had a distinctive [[Colonial anthem|anthem]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Downfall===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Fall of the Twelve Colonies}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bsyashuman.jpg|thumb|[[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]], shortly before its downfall.]]&lt;br /&gt;
40 years after the end of the devastating war, the Cylons return and cause havoc among the twelve worlds of their creators ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). For some time the Colonies remain occupied by Cylon forces and a [[Caprica resistance|small group of human survivors]]. After nine months, humanity and the Cylons leave the twelve worlds for good ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the original 50 billion inhabitants, only about 55,000 survive the first days of the holocaust. Most of them leave the Colonies behind in two small [[The Fleet (RDM)|fugitive fleets]]. The fleet of the [[Battlestar (RDM)|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; eventually encounters both [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], as well as the original Thirteenth Colony [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. Some time after that, and after the destruction of the [[The Colony|the Cylon home world]], they settle on a [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|beautiful, rich world]], leaving behind the baggage of their Colonial heritage. ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part II]]&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fate===&lt;br /&gt;
The ultimate fate of the Twelve Colonies 150,000 years after [[The Fall]] is unknown. Presumably, after several hundred years, their climates and surfaces would degrade until they resemble the original [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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It can be presumed that by the present-day radiation levels would have lowered past the point in which life would be allowed to flourish once again. However, little, if any traces would remain of the human civilizations that once thrived upon them, excluding remains in space, such as the remnants of [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] or [[Ragnar Anchorage]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aerilon==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Aerilon}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors7.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aerilon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Aerelon&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 1.2 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Demeter&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Gaoth&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Gaoth, Promethea&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: University of Aerilon, Promethea A &amp;amp; M&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Aerilon Threshers, Promethea Golden Horns&lt;br /&gt;
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Aerilon was primarily an agricultural world. It was considered to be the &amp;quot;food basket&amp;quot; of the Twelve Colonies and ranked among its poorest members ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). The planet shares an orbit with the gas giant Hestia and Canceron, sitting in the L4 Lagrangian point. Aerilon&#039;s capital was Gaoth.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The mannerisms of Aerilon&#039;s natives were considered rough and rude, at least by [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprican]] standards. The people of this world also spoke with a distinctive accent that was quite hard to cover up ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the very last [[Pyramid (RDM) | Pyramid]] games occurred on Aerilon, right before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Resistance]]&amp;quot;). A [[Lest We Forget|photograph]], showcasing the destruction of Aerilon&#039;s capital, Gaoth, becomes one of the most memorable documents of the Fall of the Twelve Colonies within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;, deleted scene).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Natives ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gaius Baltar | Gaius]] and [[Julius Baltar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sherry Bennett]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sekou Hamilton]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Socinus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
* On some occasions this colony&#039;s name was also spelled &#039;&#039;&#039;Aerelon&#039;&#039;&#039;. Battlestar Wiki uses the more commonly found &#039;&#039;&#039;Aerilon&#039;&#039;&#039;. There is a similar discrepancy in the pronunciation of the colony&#039;s name. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Aquaria==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors12.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aquaria]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aquarius (constellation)|Aquarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Aquarion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 25,000&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hermes&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Heim&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Kyros Summerfest&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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Aquaria is a &amp;quot;frigid&amp;quot; world with only one major land mass: Kryos, a crescent-shaped continent with volcanoes at both ends. Aquaria was widely known for its vast oceans ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Founded as a scientific research outpost, this remote world has also attracted a small (25000 perminant) but sturdy population know for stubborn independance, social tolerance and a unique barter system. However, the population can swell to as many as a half-million during the annual summerfest, which features music, dance, theater and epic poetry.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the lack of an official capital city, the government held weekly community meetings that were open both citizens and non-citizens. A majority of issues addressed were passed by majority vote, even the election of the colony&#039;s Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Its first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate within the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] post-[[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall]] is [[Miksa Burian]], who votes for [[Tom Zarek]] in the vice-presidential elections ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
* On many occasions this colony&#039;s name was also spelled &#039;&#039;&#039;Aquarion&#039;&#039;&#039;. However, the name &#039;&#039;&#039;Aquaria&#039;&#039;&#039; was heard on screen during the Hybrid&#039;s monologue in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot; and spoken by President Roslin when tallying the votes for vice- president ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Serge&#039;s [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/8704063822 Twitter account] states that both names are viable, with Aquarion being the official name and Aquaria a regional variation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In an [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/01/caprica-countdown-the-music-of-the-master-bear-mccreary.html LA Times article], Aquaria is described as a frigid ocean world, with small volcanic land masses and small communities.  It is also said to be regarded as nothing more than a scientific research outpost by the other Colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545438632 Serge&#039;s twitter account], Aquaria doesn&#039;t have a capital city.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Canceron==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors9.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Canceron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Canceron.png|thumb|right|Canceron from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Cancer (constellation)|Cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 6.7 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hephaestus&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hades&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hades, Prommos, Mangala&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Prommos, Ruby Range, Kor Yaz Glacier&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Canceron Hydras, Hades Vice, Mangala Krill&lt;br /&gt;
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Canceron is the most populous planet in the twelves worlds. It is located in the Helios Delta system, sharing its orbit with two other planets, one of them being Aerilon. The planet was well known for its beaches and had at least one large coastal metropolis ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). The capital was Hades.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the [[First Cylon War]], Canceron was a very overpopulated and poor colony. Canceron&#039;s major cities such as Hades and Mangala were known to have large slums.  Its large population earned Canceron the nickname &amp;quot;The Largest Democracy&amp;quot; within the colonies, though some believed the government was nothing more than a corrupt Oligarchy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/sports/canceron-wants-a-fourth-pyramid-team.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Canceron Wants a Fourth Pyramid Team&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/opinion/just-wondering-about-that-military-roadblock-thing.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Just Wondering About That Military Roadblock Thing&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], Canceron is hit with at least three nuclear devices. One of the [[Luxury liner | passenger liners]] within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the fleet]], &#039;&#039;[[Pyxis]]&#039;&#039;, is one of the last ships that escapes this world when the  began. Aboard is the [[Number Six]] copy [[Shelly Godfrey]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Robin Wenutu]] is the Canceron delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] after the Fall.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lexon]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Caprica==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Caprica (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors3.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Caprica]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Caprica from Orbit.jpg|right|thumb|[[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] from orbit.]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Caprica City, The Plan.jpg|thumb|right|Caprica City.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gemenon from Caprica City.jpg|thumb|right|The view of Gemenon from Caprica City.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[w:Capricornus|Capricorn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 4.9 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Apollo&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Caprican&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Caprica City]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Caprica City, [[Delphi]], Phoebus&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Delphi Museum of the Colonies]], [[Atlas Arena]], [[Caprica_Interplanetary_Spaceport|Caprica Interplanetary Spaceport]], [[Graystone Industries]], Apollo University, [[Pantheon_Bridge|Pantheon Bridge]], Ionian Islands, Orpheus Park&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Caprica City Buccaneers]], Delphi Legion, Phoebus Suns&lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica was a lush blue-green planet, covered by large oceans and continents. It shares its orbit with Gemenon around a common barycenter, and can often be seen in the skies above the Caprican landscape. Depending on its orbit, the Caprican night can almost be negated by intense planetshine from Gemenon, although not as bright as the Caprican sun, there is enough light reflected back to effectively turn night into day ([[TRS]]: [[You Can&#039;t Go Home Again]], [[Litmus]]). Of curious note, Caprica features landmasses similar to a world the Colonials would eventually settle and come to call Earth. &lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica was regarded as the center of Colonial civilization, even long before the [[First Cylon War]]. [[Graystone Industries]] was one of the Colonies&#039; most influential technology developers and had a hand in creating the very [[U-87|first Cylons]]. Some 60 years before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]], Caprica was also plagued by [[Soldiers of the One | religiously]] motivated terrorism ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). After the war, the planet was once again the seat of politics, culture, art, science, learning and even the Colonial government. It was also one of the wealthiest colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Epiphanies]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], Caprica and it&#039;s surrounding airspace, played host to numerous skirmishes, one of which would eventually determine the outcome of the war. Caprica herself, comes under heavy attack from Cylon forces right from the start. With numerous basestars jumping directly into orbit, they are quickly able to gain the upper hand. At least four [[Battlestar (RDM)|battlestars]], including the &#039;&#039;Yashuman&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, are quickly dispatched, and numerous targets, including the once proud Caprica City, are annihilated from orbit by nuclear weapons ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). The attacks leave the civilian shipping lanes in the vicinity of Caprica/Gemenon shut down, but the civilian ships are relatively ignored in the opening moments of the attack, in favor of military targets. This gives them time to gather and flee the area, picking up other survivors along the way. Eventually the fleet amasses over 100 ships of all kinds, both civilian and homeless military support craft. However, only 75 FTL capable ships are able to flee Caprican airspace, leaving the sub-lights, and their passengers, at the hands of the Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time of the attack, the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was positioned 3 hours away, and was not able to partake in the defense of its home planet. It wasn&#039;t long, however, before the Cylons located its position, and attempted to take it out. After being struck by a nuclear warhead, suffering major damage, and not having anything to shoot with, but still in one piece, the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; had no choice but to retreat to the relative safety of the gas giant, [[Ragnar]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]), leaving Caprica, and the remaining survivors, completely defenseless and on their own.   &lt;br /&gt;
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After the space-faring Colonials flee, Caprica is occupied by [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon forces]], attempting to undo the damage they&#039;ve done, and colonize the planet themselves. They often clash with [[Caprica resistance|human survivors]] within the Colonies, and fight on this world for several weeks. The occupation and resistance both end roughly nine months after the attack and the planet is left for good ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Resistance]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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6,250 people from Caprica join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] over [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The overall Caprican survivor population, possibly significantly greater, is unknown (see analysis [[The Fleet (RDM)#Demographics|here]]). An attempted settlement by the survivors of the holocaust is named [[New Caprica]] in honor of the original colony ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The first [[Quorum of Twelve (TRS)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate after the Fall is [[Gaius Baltar]]. Years later this spot is taken by [[Lee Adama]], the last Quroum delegate from that colony before Delegate Adama establishes the [[Quorum of Ship&#039;s Captains]] in the wake of the mass-execution of the Quorum during [[Gaeta&#039;s Mutiny]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Adama | William]], [[Tamara Adama|Tamara]], [[Zak Adama|Zak]] and [[Lee Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Richard Adar]], presumed as he was also the mayor of Caprica City at one point&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Daniel Graystone|Daniel]], [[Amanda Graystone|Amanda]] and [[Zoe Graystone]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lacy Rand]] and her family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Laura Roslin | Laura]], [[Cheryl Roslin|Cheryl]] and [[Sandra Roslin]], as well as their parents&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ben Stark]] and his mother, [[Natalie Stark|Natalie]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kara Thrace|Kara]], [[Socrata Thrace|Socrata]] and (presumably) [[Dreilide Thrace]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* Caprica was and continues to be the world most prominently depicted in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|re-imagined series&#039; continuity]]. It wasn&#039;t until [[Razor]] that another of the Twelve Colonies was actually seen on screen.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11920922009 states] that Caprica had a number of unique lifeforms on its surface though animal transplantation by early Colonists allowed them to be seen on the other planets.&lt;br /&gt;
*The twitter account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11861670347 mentions] that Caprica spends the most on Colonial defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gemenon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors5.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Gemenon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gemenon.JPG|thumb|right|Gemenon and the distant Helios Delta seen from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GemenonCityscape.jpg|thumb|right|A city on Gemenon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Gemini (constellation)|Gemini]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.8 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hera&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Old Gemenese&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Oranu&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Oranu, Illumini&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Kobol Colleges, Illumini Pantheon, Gramada Mountains, Spatiu Gol Plateau, Pustiu Desert&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Gemenon Twins]], Illumini Vipers&lt;br /&gt;
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Gemenon was the first world colonized by the humans of Kobol. It shares its orbit around Helios Alpha with Caprica, completing an rotation once every 28.2 days. Its status as a twin planet gives it its name&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://files.meetup.com/405090/Serge%20Graystone&#039;s%20Twitter%20Feed.pdf Serge Graystone&#039;s Twitter feed]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Its climate can vary wildly, featuring frozen plateaus, and searing deserts, which can make life difficult for its inhabitants.  &lt;br /&gt;
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It was one of the poorer colonies and its people, the Gemenese, were known for their religious fundamentalism ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Despite this fundamentalist approach to the polytheistic Colonial religion, the Gemenese were known to be tolerant of all forms of worship, including monotheism. In fact, the monotheist movement is said to have begun on Gemenon.&lt;br /&gt;
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The people of Gemenon are consistently referred to as &amp;quot;Gemenese&amp;quot; in both the [[Re-imagined Series]] and [[Caprica (series)|Caprica]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the [[First Cylon War]], Gemenon was home to the [[Kobol Colleges]] and a monotheistic cult called &amp;quot;[[Soldiers of the One|The Soldiers of the One]]&amp;quot; ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries, Night 2]]; [[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). Gemenon&#039;s second-largest city, Illumini, was built around a large Pantheon complex, composed of buildings intended to worship and celebrate every deity in the [[Sacred Scrolls]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The Gemenese were known for their literal interpretations of the [[Sacred Scrolls|Scrolls]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Fragged]]&amp;quot;). Most of the population of Gemenon was apparently very strongly opposed to the federal laws legalizing abortion ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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The planet also had either an old or disused language, known as [[Language in the Twelve Colonies|Old Gemenese]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Fall_of_the_Twelve_Colonies|Cylon attack]], Gemenon comes under heavy assault by Cylon air and ground forces, completely obliterating one city with a high-yield nuclear device, and causing extensive damage to another with conventional means. At least one ship, the &#039;&#039;Cybele&#039;&#039;, is able to escape the destruction of its port and occupying Cylon forces, and find Roslin&#039;s fleet ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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Three months after the attacks, approximately 9,500 Gemenese break away from the main fleet, and join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] over [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The large and devoted Gemenese population continues to be an important political factor within the [[The Fleet (RDM)|fugitive fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Adrien Bauer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jurgen Belzen]] and his family&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rya Kibby]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Romo Lampkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sarah Porter]], former delegate to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Corporal [[Venner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* If the word &amp;quot;Inviere&amp;quot; (meaning &amp;quot;Resurrection&amp;quot;) is any indication, Old Gemenese was probably similar to the Romanian language of [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|our Earth]].&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/8705440343 Serge&#039;s Twitter account], Gemenon is the planet that shares its orbit with [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]. This planet is seen at the beginning of the aired &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; pilot, but is not clearly identified as such until [[CAP]]:  &amp;quot;[[The Heavens Will Rise]]&amp;quot; in a visual transition from Caprica to Gemenon.&lt;br /&gt;
* As an Easter Egg in &#039;&#039;[[The Plan]]&#039;&#039;, the building on the lower left of the screen is the same one where the [[memoryalpha:Romulan Senate|Romulan Senate]] assembles in &#039;&#039;[[memoryalpha:Star Trek Nemesis|Star Trek Nemesis]]&#039;&#039;. A detailed picture of this building is available [[memoryalpha:File:Romulan senate building, 2379.jpg|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Leonis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors8.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Leonis]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Leonis.png|thumb|right|A Leonan thoroughfare under Cylon assault.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Leo (constellation)|Leo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.6 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Artemis&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Leonese&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Luminere&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Luminere, Hedon&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Royal Palace of Leonis, Hedon Grand Casino&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Leonis Wildcats]], Hedon Suns&lt;br /&gt;
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Leonis is the second planet in the Helios Beta system, and was geographically known for its open plains ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). The planet itself has no axial tilt, which supports a mild and predictable climate. It was a major hub for both education and industry, and despite Colonial unification, was able to maintain its own language and culture.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the era prior to the [[First Cylon War]], Leonis produced and exported a popular energy drink named &amp;quot;Leonis Red&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Leonis Estates Sparkling Wine]] was a type of alcohol produced on this colony ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the final Cylon [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]], Leonis is struck with at least one, low-yield nuclear device, that was able to stun its residents and disable any means of escape. Those who survived the blast, are then seen being systematically eliminated by both ground and air forces ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). It is unknown if any are collected and used in the Four&#039;s various [[farms]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Safiya Sanne]] is the Leonan representative on the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] after [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Libran==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors11.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Libran]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Libran.gif|thumb|right|The courthouses of Libran.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Libra (constellation)|Libra]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Libris&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.1 million&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Athena&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Themis&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Supreme Hall of Justice, Themis Arena&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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Libran was known for its courthouses and lawyers ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;), and was the home of the [[Inter-Colonial Court]] ([[CAP]]: &amp;quot;[[Gravedancing]]&amp;quot;). The planet had no official capital.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] stated in[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545438632 this tweet] that Aquaria and Libran &amp;quot;don&#039;t have official capitals&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A major city on Libran was called [[Themis]] which had a large, modern [[pyramid]] arena built sometime before the First Cylon War. Yet at this time Libran had no official pyramid team.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/sports/libran-needs-a-pyramid-team-statim.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Libran Needs a Pyramid Team Statim&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], [[Oswin Eriku]] is chosen to be this colony&#039;s representative to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Zephyr]]&#039;&#039;, a passenger liner in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], is of Libran registry.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was stated in a Fleet overview on scifi.com. This section of the site has long been shut down.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The Colony&#039;s actual name, &#039;&#039;&#039;Libran&#039;&#039;&#039;, was not heard on screen until &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot; but could already be seen on a name plate in &amp;quot;[[The Ties That Bind]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]&amp;quot;. Before that it was often called &#039;&#039;&#039;Libris&#039;&#039;&#039; in secondary publications. &lt;br /&gt;
* The city that is seen when Libran is mentioned in the &amp;quot;Caprica is burning&amp;quot; monologue in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;, bears a striking resemblance to [[Tauron City]], as seen in &amp;quot;[[Know Thy Enemy]]&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/15877355213 says] that the Libran court system served as a body through which trade disputes and legal matters were capable of being sorted amongst the colonies. He also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/15877298276 states] that it is a high earning colony but is not regarded as a desirable place to live.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Picon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors2.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Picon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Picon.png|thumb|right|Picon from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Pisces (constellation)|Pisces]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 1.4 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Poseidon&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Queenstown&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Perkinston, Queenstown, Pailyn&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Colonial Fleet Headquarters, Penrose Harbor&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Picon Panthers]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Picon was a turquoise planet, containing 75% water, and famous for its harbors ([[TRS]]: [[The Plan]]). The capital city was Queenstown, a relatively small fishing village.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanpicon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/p-is-for-paradise-p-is-for-picon.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;&#039;P&#039; Is for &#039;Paradise, &#039;P&#039; Is for Picon&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Caprica, Tauron and Picon [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During the planet&#039;s off-season, most of the landscape became cold and rugged.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanpicon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/p-is-for-paradise-p-is-for-picon.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;&#039;P&#039; Is for &#039;Paradise, &#039;P&#039; Is for Picon&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The planet was often used as a substitute for [[Caprica City]] in Caprican films and TV series.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Unification of the Twelve Colonies this world was the location of the [[Picon Fleet Headquarters|Colonial Fleet Headquarters]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]). Picon was also the home of [[Picon Laboratories]], located in Pailyn, Muritolan  ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Faith]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The colony came under heavy attack during the early stages of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]]. One of the last ships to leave the planet was the &#039;&#039;[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]&#039;&#039;, carrying many wounded people including an unconscious [[Ellen Tigh]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The destruction of Picon&#039;s Fleet Headquarters caused President [[Richard Adar]] to offer a complete and unconditional surrender to the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. This offer was ignored by the invading forces ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Asha Janik]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Billy Keikeya | Billy Keikeya&#039;s]] family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Playa Palacios]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Publications===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Picon Star Tribune]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Picon&#039;s destination as a substitute for Caprica in films and series is likely a reference to Canada, and particularly Vancouver, where both the [[Re-Imagined Series]] and &#039;&#039;[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]&#039;&#039; were filmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/12144717655 According] to Serge&#039;s twitter account, Picon has the most efficient, cooperative and responsive democracy in the colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
*In one [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10988850734 post], it&#039;s said that Picon offers tax incentives for production of TV programs on the planet though Caprica remains the leading producer of such shows.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sagittaron==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Sagittaron}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors10.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Sagittaron]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Sagittarius (constellation)|Sagittarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Sagittarion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 1.7 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Zeus&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Tawa&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Acheron River&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Sagittaron Archers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sagittaron was one of the poorest worlds of the Twelve Colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;). The capital of this planet was Tawa.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Sagittarons were traditionalists who practiced a different form of religion from the other Colonials. They distrusted modern medicine and were generally unsupportive of the military ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Woman King]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The Planet endured centuries of exploitation at the hands of the other Colonies. Eventually, [[Tom Zarek]] led an organized series of terrorist acts against the established government there, many years before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall of the Colonies]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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A few days after the Cylon attack, 5,251 people from this world reside within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jacob Cantrell]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Portia King | Portia]] and [[Willie King]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clarice Willow]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tom Zarek]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The colony&#039;s name was originally spelled as &amp;quot;Sagittar&#039;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&#039;on&amp;quot; in the [[Miniseries]], but this changed to &#039;&#039;&#039;Sagittaron&#039;&#039;&#039; when the regular series began.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Scorpia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors6.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Scorpia]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ScorpionFleetShipyards1.jpg|thumb|right|Scorpia and and its shipyards from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Scorpius|Scorpio]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 450 million&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Dionysus&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Celeste&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Celeste, Argentum&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Argentum Bay, Guardian Mountains, Scorpia Shipyards&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Scorpia Stingers, Celeste Storms, Celeste Lightning, Argentum Bay Silverstars&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorpia was known for its lush jungles and hot temperatures ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). Scorpia&#039;s capital was Celeste.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the [[First Cylon War]] one of the major leisure spots of the world was Argentum Bay, despite the colony&#039;s trashy reputation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/entertainment/argentum-bay-the-ultimate-vernal-break.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Argentum Bay: The Ultimate Vernal Break&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. The Planet was also apparently well-known for its [[Scorpia Paragliding|Paragliding]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Unification, Scorpia was home to the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards|Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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During the initial [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], Scorpia falls victim to numerous massive nuclear attacks, destroying much of the population. Cylon forces also focus on the orbiting ship yards, obliterating the structure, destroying numerous Battlestars and support ships, and causing [[Pegasus (RDM)|another one]] to risk a blind jump in order to escape ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Eladio Puasha]] serves as the planet&#039;s delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] assembled after the Fall.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* In an [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/01/caprica-countdown-paula-malcolmsons-moving-away-from-deadwoods-trixie.html LA Times article], Scorpia is described as having a &amp;quot;scorpion tail-like half-ring&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tauron==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Tauron (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors4.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Tauron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tauron.png|thumb|right|[[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] from orbit, and under Cylon assault.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TauronCity.JPG|thumb|right|Pre-Cylon War Minos (Tauron City).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TauronTwinPlanet.JPG|thumb|right|Tauron&#039;s moon, Minos, in the evening sky.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Taurus (constellation)|Taurus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.5 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Ares&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Tauron&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Hypatia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hypatia, [[Tauron City]] (Minos)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Minos, Olympia Hippadrome, Great Tauron Plains&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Olympia Stallions, Tauron Bulls &lt;br /&gt;
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Tauron was a barren, arid planet that lacked any kind of flowers. However, it was well-known for its agriculture ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). Its capital was [[Hypatia]]&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Caprica, Tauron and Picon [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, another large city was [[Tauron City]]. The planet shared its orbit with another ringed world ([[CAP]]: &amp;quot;[[Know Thy Enemy]]&amp;quot; - see notes).&lt;br /&gt;
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Taurons were known to be very traditional people, even speaking a very old and distinctive [[Language in the Twelve Colonies|language]] ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Some 800 years before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]] Tauron was colonized by [[#Virgon|Virgon]] and [[#Leonis|Leonis]]. The people of Tauron liberated themselves and ever since this world has been known for its troubled and violent history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/opinion/racism-an-unacceptable-aspect-of-caprican-life.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;An Unacceptable Aspect of Caprican Life&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nearly a century before its Fall, Tauron was one of the poorer colonial worlds and the center of a [[Tauron Civil War|civil war]]. A few years before the [[First Cylon War]], the crime syndicate [[Ha&#039;la&#039;tha]] had enormous influence over the planet, which even extended to other colonies, such as [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the War, [[Hypatia]] was was the location of a [[Battle of Tauron|fierce and lossy battle]] against [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon forces]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, extended Edition). &lt;br /&gt;
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After the War, Tauron was known to be a somewhat troublesome colony within the [[Government of the Twelve Colonies|federal system]] of the Colonies, often disobeying directives decided by the colonies and pushing their luck with the admiralty ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Hero]]&amp;quot;). Yet this world was counted among the wealthier of the twelve worlds ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joseph Adama | Joseph]] and [[Sam Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shannon Adama]] and her mother, [[Ruth]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Helena Cain]] and her murdered family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tomas Vergis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The language of Tauron is remarkably similar to Ancient Greek that, thousands of years later, was spoken on [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth | a planet]] on the other side of the galaxy. &lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10335013016 Serge&#039;s Twitter Account] Tauron only has a moon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Serge&#039;s Twitter account also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 stated] Tauron&#039;s capital to be [[Hypatia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virgon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors1.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Virgon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Virgo (constellation)|Virgo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 4.3 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hestia&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Boskirk&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Boskirk, Blaustad, Hadrian&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: House of Parliament, Tower of Virgon, Petrus Palace, Virgon Universities&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Virgon United, [[Boskirk All Reds]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgon was well-known for its forests ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;) and considered to be one of the wealthier colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). The capital of Virgon was Boskirk.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgon had a declining monarchy and a strong national parliament, at least 58 years before the Fall of the Colonies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mentioned by [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/statuses/10937229785 Serge&#039;s twitter account].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Virgon Brew]] was a beer produced on the planet and exported to other Colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Maelstrom]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon after the beginning of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], the Colonials launch a counter-attack over Virgon. The battle ends with the destruction of the flagship battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]&#039;&#039; and the resulting death of [[Nagala|Fleet Admiral Nagala]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Marshall Bagot]] is the Virgon delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]. He nominates [[Tom Zarek]] for the vice-presidency ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;). In public ceremonies, the Virgon delegate wears a light blue sash.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s Twitter Account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10937229785 states] that Virgon has a declining monarchy with a strong parliament.&lt;br /&gt;
*Virgon draws many parallels with present-day Earth&#039;s Britain; a declining monarchy, birthplace of Colonial language, coloniser of other planets (comparable to countries) and &#039;Virgon United&#039; and &#039;Boskirk All Reds&#039; are similar to Manchester United, a prominent English football team, also known as the Red Devils.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ithaca]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:List of sectors (RDM)/Archive 1</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a Discussion Page on Sectors.  I am new to this; apologies for any errors or omissions in advance.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted to draw attention to the question of sectors.  If one searches the BSG auctions websites, there are a variety of &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; maps. These were used primarily on the light tables of the Pegasus and Galactica CICs.   The difference between &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; and a &amp;quot;sector&amp;quot; is not clear - but I think this is a good place to add info on the regions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is an example of what I mean on the Propsworx website for the Elianica Region;&lt;br /&gt;
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http://archive.propworx.com/search?t=elianica&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Johna|Johna]] 12:22, 9 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Hello, Johna! We have no problem in adding the region information to this list, and rename it &amp;quot;List of Regions and Sectors.&amp;quot; -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:41, 9 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Joe &amp;amp; Everyone,&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the reply and welcome!  Yes, it is interesting, but the difference between the two (i.e. sectors and regions) is unclear.  Is a region a subset of a sector?&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Johna|Johna]] 12:45, 9 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: That distinction hasn&#039;t been well defined in the series, to be honest. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:11, 9 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The impression I go was of a sector being a well defined area, confined within a set number of co-ordinate points, while a region is Far more vague, kinda like Argentina being a sector, while Patagonia would be a region. [[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 11:53, 10 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>The Twelve Colonies of Kobol</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: /* Helios Beta */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the Twelve Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. See [[The Twelve Colonies of Man]] for information on the Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Colonialseal.png|210px|right|[[Colonial Seal|Seal]] of the Twelve Colonies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The Twelve Colonies of Kobol&#039;&#039;&#039; are twelve distinct worlds, located in a remote part of the galaxy. For 2,000 years they were home to the human survivors of the exodus of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mentioned at [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11953827897 Serge&#039;s twitter account], given that Serge&#039;s account corresponds to 58 years before [[The Fall]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of the two millennia that these worlds were inhabited, the Twelve Colonies consisted of multiple sovereign states, but during the final fifty-two years leading up to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], all twelve comprised a single state known as the United Colonies of Kobol ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The formal &amp;quot;United Colonies of Kobol&amp;quot; was never used on-screen, and appears only on the [[Battlestar Galactica Map of the 12 Colonies]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the settlement, the colonies slowly began to prosper and eventually gave birth to a race of cybernetic lifeforms, known as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. Soon after their creation, the Cylons raged a devastating war on their creators&#039; home planets, which ultimately led to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. Wasted and in ruins, the once prosperous homeworlds of humanity are finally abandoned by both humans and Cylons. What becomes of them is unknown to their inhabitants&#039; descendants. &lt;br /&gt;
{{RDM twelve colonies series}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star System==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Note: A portion of the information listed below is taken from the [[Battlestar_Wiki:Canon#Official|official]], &amp;quot;quasi-canon&amp;quot; [[Battlestar Galactica Map of the 12 Colonies]]&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;io9&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite_web|url=http://io9.com/5742034/a-detailed-map-of-battlestar-galacticas-twelve-colonies?skyline=true&amp;amp;s=i|title=Detailed Map Of Battlestar Galactica&#039;s Twelve Colonies|date=24 January 2010|accessdate=29 January 2011|last=Anders|first=Charlie Jane|format=|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Twelve Colonies are found within the star system Cyrannus, located some 2,000 light years from Kobol, where humanity first evolved. In total, Cyrannus is a vast and complex system, comprised of four &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In [[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]],&amp;quot; a Cylon [[Hybrid]] indicates that the Colonies orbit three stars. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stars: Helios Alpha, Helios Beta, Helios Gamma, and Helios Delta. Each star is orbited by its own share of planets and other astronomical bodies. The stars come together to form two binary systems (Alpha/Beta and Gamma/Delta). Both pairs of stars then orbit each other around a third, central barycenter every 546,892 years. Both binary systems are separated by .16 light years or 10,091 SU.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Alpha===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Alpha is a main sequence star of spectral class G2V and has a mass of 1.0 kg, and was the first system settled by the Colonials after the exodus from Kobol, having first set foot on Gemenon. It shares its orbit with Helios Beta at a distance of 63 SU (In this case, 1 SU being equal to the average distance between Helios Alpha and the barycenter of the Caprica-Gemenon system, a rough 150 million km). The pair complete an orbit once every 373 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** Icarus - A small planet located close to the star. It has a molten surface which makes mining and exploration impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
** Picon&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] and Gemenon - These two colonies are twin planets.&lt;br /&gt;
** Erebos asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] - One of only three colonies to feature a moon, named Minos, and it is the only moon with a ring. It is home to several mining and scientific outposts.   &lt;br /&gt;
** Zeus - A gas giant located at the outer edge of the system. This gas giant is the largest planet in the four systems, with a diameter of 153,000 km at the equator. The planet has 74 moons, the largest of which are Nike and Hebe. Constant upper atmosphere lightning creates an aurora effect that can be seen with the naked eye. &lt;br /&gt;
** Persephone - Classified as a dwarf planet, Persephone is the last planet in the system and features an inclined and eccentric orbit. Colonial scientists believe this planet could be an escaped moon of Zeus.&lt;br /&gt;
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This system is unique in the fact that Caprica and Gemenon share an orbit around a common barycenter. According to the Colonial map, the planets orbit each other once every 28.2 days, and are separated by a distance of 493,000 km.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Beta===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Beta is a main sequence star of spectral class K1V and has a mass of 0.79 kg. It is the second system settled by the Colonials after the exodus from Kobol. It shares its orbit with Helios Alpha at a distance of 63 SU. The pair complete an orbit once every 373 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Troy (RDM)|Troy]] - A small, metal-rich planet, mined extensively by Virgon and Leonis since the founding of those two colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
** Leonis&lt;br /&gt;
** Ouranos asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Virgon - One of only three colonies to feature a moon, named Hibernia, and the only naturally habitable moon in the 12 Colonies. It was settled several centuries ago by the Celtans, an ethnic group opposed to Virgon rule.&lt;br /&gt;
** Hera - A gas giant, approximately 75,000 km in diameter, and the third largest planet in the Cyrannus system. It has 29 moons, the largest of what are Iris and Eubora. &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Pallas]] - A small world with an inclined orbit once believed to hold a life sustaining atmosphere. It is no longer tectonically active. However, the Colonials have set up at least seven small colonies and a military research station on the planet. Efforts to kobolform the planet have failed.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Gamma===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Gamma is a main sequence star of spectral class G9V and has a mass of 0.89 kg. It is presumably the third system settled by the Colonials. Helios Gamma shares its orbit with Helios Delta at a distance of 70 SU, and completes an orbit once every 456 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** Thanatos - A small planet with a corrosive &#039;sulphur&#039; dioxide atmosphere. This planet is tidally locked to the star, and aptly named for the god of death.&lt;br /&gt;
** Acheron asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Scorpia - Home to the Scorpia Fleet ship yards. The planet features a half ring, thought to be a moon that broke apart nearly 100,000 years ago. &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Sagittaron|Sagittaron]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Libran - Features two small moons, Herse and Pandrossos, which are thought to be captured asteroids. The moons orbit so close to each other, they periodically swap positions. &lt;br /&gt;
** Ophion - A frigid gas giant with diameter of 51,000 km, and an inclined orbit. The planet has 14 moons, all smaller than 10 km in diameter. Studies on the planet have Colonial scientists thinking that Ragnar was originally a member of the Helios Gamma system, while Ophion was not. Scientists think that Ophion was a rouge planet that passed close to Ragnar and was caught by the star, pushing Ragnar into its current orbit around the entire Gamma/Delta system.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Delta===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Delta is a reddish main sequence star of the spectral class K2V and has a mass of 0.74 kg. It is the last of the four systems to be settled by the Colonials. Helios Delta shares its orbit with Helios Gamma at a distance of 70 SU, and completes an orbit once every 456 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets and Other Astronomical Bodies&lt;br /&gt;
** Phoebe - A small world with a high surface temperature and thin atmosphere. &lt;br /&gt;
** Aeolus asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Aerilon, Hestia, and Canceron - These planets share the same orbit.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Hestia - The smallest gas giant in the Cyrannian star system, Hestia only has a diameter of 47,000 km. It has 17 moons, the largest of which, Kronos and Rhea, share the same orbit. &lt;br /&gt;
** Aquaria&lt;br /&gt;
** Styx - A small planet, with a dense, reducing atmosphere of carbon dioxide, and sulfides.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This system is unique in the fact that Aerilon, Hestia, and Canceron share the same orbit. The planets sit comfortably in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point Lagrangian Points], meaning that the gravitational pull of Helios Delta and Hestia are balanced, allowing two smaller bodies (Aerilon and Canceron) to share the same orbit in a &amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot; position, maintaining the same distance apart at all times. Aerilon sits at the L4 point, and Canceron at the L5 point. &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Ragnar]] - A gas giant with a diameter of 138,000 km, orbits the entire Helios Gamma and Delta system in a 899.75 year period. It sits about 110 SU away from the central barycenter. The Colonials use the planet as host to [[Ragnar Anchorage]], an orbital refueling station and naval armory that distills hydrocarbons from the planet&#039;s upper atmosphere. It has one moon, Sigurd. During the Fall of the Colonies, Ragnar was used as cover by the Battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, and later her [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], after escaping the destruction of Caprica. It would be the last world of the Cyrannian system that most of the surviving Colonials would lay eyes on. Hours after arriving, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; took the gathered fleet, [[Battle_of_Ragnar_Anchorage|and fled the systems]], never to return.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The fact that the Colonies are located within one system originates from a [http://web.archive.org/web/20080620084336/http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/#a000016 blog entry] by Ronald D. Moore.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jane Espenson revealed on Twitter that the Colonies are within a star cluster and share some orbits. The latter fact was finally shown to be true in the TV version of the [[Caprica pilot#Differences between the DVD and TV Cut|series premiere]] of &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Before the canonical figure mentioned above the original [[Miniseries]] script stated a pre-Fall population of about 12 billion. The webisodes &amp;quot;[[The Resistance]]&amp;quot; stated the death of 20 billion people caused by the Cylons. &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/17543741200 mentions] that the exodus from Kobol is believed to be true by the inhabitants of the Twelve Colonies and it was from them that animals such as cats as well as dogs came to the Colonies. Furthermore, the [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/13899240134 twelve planets] are populated with a few other worlds in the star cluster but not many with the settled colonies [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/12891949300 already] possessing some animal as well as plant life. Furthermore, Serge [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/17543813025 states] that all the planets are not democracies but rather each has their own style of government.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|History of the Twelve Colonies}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Home pt1-Kobol.jpg|thumb|[[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], the ancient homeworld of humanity.]]&lt;br /&gt;
About 2,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the last twelve tribes of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] left their planet&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to dialogue from &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[A Measure of Salvation]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;, the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] left Kobol some 2,000 years &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039; the twelve tribes. The Scroll of [[Pythia]] is dated as written 3,600 years before the last exodus of Kobol, and chronicles the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s exodus.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; over conflicts with their [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|gods]], as well as some sort of calamity ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The tribes settled on twelve worlds some distance away ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The tribes&#039; namesakes and icons originally corresponded to the twelve signs of the ancient tribes, although these [[wikipedia:Zodiac|names]] drifted over time ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Flag matches with Colonies from &amp;quot;Encyclopedia Galactica.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]&#039;&#039;. Feb./Mar. 2006: 50-55.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The early Colonies lived (and fought) more as sovereign nations. Some (particularly [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]) prospered, while others (such as [[Sagittaron]] and [[Aerilon]]) were often considered lessers. For peacetime labor forces as well as for wars between each other, humanity created the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. When these [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|early models]] rebelled, the Colonies unified their governments under the [[Articles of Colonization]] sometime before or during the [[Cylon War]] as a federal republic known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Twelve Colonies of Kobol&#039;&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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The official symbol of the Twelve Colonies was the [[Colonial seal]]. The nation also had a distinctive [[Colonial anthem|anthem]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Downfall===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Fall of the Twelve Colonies}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bsyashuman.jpg|thumb|[[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]], shortly before its downfall.]]&lt;br /&gt;
40 years after the end of the devastating war, the Cylons return and cause havoc among the twelve worlds of their creators ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). For some time the Colonies remain occupied by Cylon forces and a [[Caprica resistance|small group of human survivors]]. After nine months, humanity and the Cylons leave the twelve worlds for good ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the original 50 billion inhabitants, only about 55,000 survive the first days of the holocaust. Most of them leave the Colonies behind in two small [[The Fleet (RDM)|fugitive fleets]]. The fleet of the [[Battlestar (RDM)|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; eventually encounters both [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], as well as the original Thirteenth Colony [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. Some time after that, and after the destruction of the [[The Colony|the Cylon home world]], they settle on a [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|beautiful, rich world]], leaving behind the baggage of their Colonial heritage. ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part II]]&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fate===&lt;br /&gt;
The ultimate fate of the Twelve Colonies 150,000 years after [[The Fall]] is unknown. Presumably, after several hundred years, their climates and surfaces would degrade until they resemble the original [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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It can be presumed that by the present-day radiation levels would have lowered past the point in which life would be allowed to flourish once again. However, little, if any traces would remain of the human civilizations that once thrived upon them, excluding remains in space, such as the remnants of [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] or [[Ragnar Anchorage]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aerilon==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Aerilon}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors7.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aerilon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Aerelon&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 1.2 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Demeter&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Gaoth&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Gaoth, Promethea&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: University of Aerilon, Promethea A &amp;amp; M&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Aerilon Threshers, Promethea Golden Horns&lt;br /&gt;
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Aerilon was primarily an agricultural world. It was considered to be the &amp;quot;food basket&amp;quot; of the Twelve Colonies and ranked among its poorest members ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). The planet shares an orbit with the gas giant Hestia and Canceron, sitting in the L4 Lagrangian point. Aerilon&#039;s capital was Gaoth.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The mannerisms of Aerilon&#039;s natives were considered rough and rude, at least by [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprican]] standards. The people of this world also spoke with a distinctive accent that was quite hard to cover up ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the very last [[Pyramid (RDM) | Pyramid]] games occurred on Aerilon, right before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Resistance]]&amp;quot;). A [[Lest We Forget|photograph]], showcasing the destruction of Aerilon&#039;s capital, Gaoth, becomes one of the most memorable documents of the Fall of the Twelve Colonies within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;, deleted scene).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Natives ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gaius Baltar | Gaius]] and [[Julius Baltar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sherry Bennett]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sekou Hamilton]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Socinus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
* On some occasions this colony&#039;s name was also spelled &#039;&#039;&#039;Aerelon&#039;&#039;&#039;. Battlestar Wiki uses the more commonly found &#039;&#039;&#039;Aerilon&#039;&#039;&#039;. There is a similar discrepancy in the pronunciation of the colony&#039;s name. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Aquaria==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors12.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aquaria]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aquarius (constellation)|Aquarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Aquarion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 25,000&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hermes&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Heim&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Kyros Summerfest&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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Aquaria is a &amp;quot;frigid&amp;quot; world with only one major land mass: Kryos, a crescent-shaped continent with volcanoes at both ends. Aquaria was widely known for its vast oceans ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Founded as a scientific research outpost, this remote world has also attracted a small (25000 perminant) but sturdy population know for stubborn independance, social tolerance and a unique barter system. However, the population can swell to as many as a half-million during the annual summerfest, which features music, dance, theater and epic poetry.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the lack of an official capital city, the government held weekly community meetings that were open both citizens and non-citizens. A majority of issues addressed were passed by majority vote, even the election of the colony&#039;s Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Its first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate within the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] post-[[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall]] is [[Miksa Burian]], who votes for [[Tom Zarek]] in the vice-presidential elections ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
* On many occasions this colony&#039;s name was also spelled &#039;&#039;&#039;Aquarion&#039;&#039;&#039;. However, the name &#039;&#039;&#039;Aquaria&#039;&#039;&#039; was heard on screen during the Hybrid&#039;s monologue in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot; and spoken by President Roslin when tallying the votes for vice- president ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Serge&#039;s [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/8704063822 Twitter account] states that both names are viable, with Aquarion being the official name and Aquaria a regional variation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In an [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/01/caprica-countdown-the-music-of-the-master-bear-mccreary.html LA Times article], Aquaria is described as a frigid ocean world, with small volcanic land masses and small communities.  It is also said to be regarded as nothing more than a scientific research outpost by the other Colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545438632 Serge&#039;s twitter account], Aquaria doesn&#039;t have a capital city.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Canceron==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors9.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Canceron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Canceron.png|thumb|right|Canceron from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Cancer (constellation)|Cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 6.7 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hephaestus&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hades&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hades, Prommos, Mangala&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Prommos, Ruby Range, Kor Yaz Glacier&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Canceron Hydras, Hades Vice, Mangala Krill&lt;br /&gt;
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Canceron is the most populous planet in the twelves worlds. It is located in the Helios Delta system, sharing its orbit with two other planets, one of them being Aerilon. The planet was well known for its beaches and had at least one large coastal metropolis ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). The capital was Hades.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the [[First Cylon War]], Canceron was a very overpopulated and poor colony. Canceron&#039;s major cities such as Hades and Mangala were known to have large slums.  Its large population earned Canceron the nickname &amp;quot;The Largest Democracy&amp;quot; within the colonies, though some believed the government was nothing more than a corrupt Oligarchy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/sports/canceron-wants-a-fourth-pyramid-team.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Canceron Wants a Fourth Pyramid Team&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/opinion/just-wondering-about-that-military-roadblock-thing.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Just Wondering About That Military Roadblock Thing&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], Canceron is hit with at least three nuclear devices. One of the [[Luxury liner | passenger liners]] within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the fleet]], &#039;&#039;[[Pyxis]]&#039;&#039;, is one of the last ships that escapes this world when the  began. Aboard is the [[Number Six]] copy [[Shelly Godfrey]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Robin Wenutu]] is the Canceron delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] after the Fall.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lexon]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Caprica==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Caprica (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors3.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Caprica]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Caprica from Orbit.jpg|right|thumb|[[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] from orbit.]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Caprica City, The Plan.jpg|thumb|right|Caprica City.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gemenon from Caprica City.jpg|thumb|right|The view of Gemenon from Caprica City.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[w:Capricornus|Capricorn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 4.9 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Apollo&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Caprican&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Caprica City]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Caprica City, [[Delphi]], Phoebus&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Delphi Museum of the Colonies]], [[Atlas Arena]], [[Caprica_Interplanetary_Spaceport|Caprica Interplanetary Spaceport]], [[Graystone Industries]], Apollo University, [[Pantheon_Bridge|Pantheon Bridge]], Ionian Islands, Orpheus Park&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Caprica City Buccaneers]], Delphi Legion, Phoebus Suns&lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica was a lush blue-green planet, covered by large oceans and continents. It shares its orbit with Gemenon around a common barycenter, and can often be seen in the skies above the Caprican landscape. Depending on its orbit, the Caprican night can almost be negated by intense planetshine from Gemenon, although not as bright as the Caprican sun, there is enough light reflected back to effectively turn night into day ([[TRS]]: [[You Can&#039;t Go Home Again]], [[Litmus]]). Of curious note, Caprica features landmasses similar to a world the Colonials would eventually settle and come to call Earth. &lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica was regarded as the center of Colonial civilization, even long before the [[First Cylon War]]. [[Graystone Industries]] was one of the Colonies&#039; most influential technology developers and had a hand in creating the very [[U-87|first Cylons]]. Some 60 years before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]], Caprica was also plagued by [[Soldiers of the One | religiously]] motivated terrorism ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). After the war, the planet was once again the seat of politics, culture, art, science, learning and even the Colonial government. It was also one of the wealthiest colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Epiphanies]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], Caprica and it&#039;s surrounding airspace, played host to numerous skirmishes, one of which would eventually determine the outcome of the war. Caprica herself, comes under heavy attack from Cylon forces right from the start. With numerous basestars jumping directly into orbit, they are quickly able to gain the upper hand. At least four [[Battlestar (RDM)|battlestars]], including the &#039;&#039;Yashuman&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, are quickly dispatched, and numerous targets, including the once proud Caprica City, are annihilated from orbit by nuclear weapons ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). The attacks leave the civilian shipping lanes in the vicinity of Caprica/Gemenon shut down, but the civilian ships are relatively ignored in the opening moments of the attack, in favor of military targets. This gives them time to gather and flee the area, picking up other survivors along the way. Eventually the fleet amasses over 100 ships of all kinds, both civilian and homeless military support craft. However, only 75 FTL capable ships are able to flee Caprican airspace, leaving the sub-lights, and their passengers, at the hands of the Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time of the attack, the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was positioned 3 hours away, and was not able to partake in the defense of its home planet. It wasn&#039;t long, however, before the Cylons located its position, and attempted to take it out. After being struck by a nuclear warhead, suffering major damage, and not having anything to shoot with, but still in one piece, the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; had no choice but to retreat to the relative safety of the gas giant, [[Ragnar]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]), leaving Caprica, and the remaining survivors, completely defenseless and on their own.   &lt;br /&gt;
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After the space-faring Colonials flee, Caprica is occupied by [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon forces]], attempting to undo the damage they&#039;ve done, and colonize the planet themselves. They often clash with [[Caprica resistance|human survivors]] within the Colonies, and fight on this world for several weeks. The occupation and resistance both end roughly nine months after the attack and the planet is left for good ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Resistance]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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6,250 people from Caprica join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] over [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The overall Caprican survivor population, possibly significantly greater, is unknown (see analysis [[The Fleet (RDM)#Demographics|here]]). An attempted settlement by the survivors of the holocaust is named [[New Caprica]] in honor of the original colony ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The first [[Quorum of Twelve (TRS)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate after the Fall is [[Gaius Baltar]]. Years later this spot is taken by [[Lee Adama]], the last Quroum delegate from that colony before Delegate Adama establishes the [[Quorum of Ship&#039;s Captains]] in the wake of the mass-execution of the Quorum during [[Gaeta&#039;s Mutiny]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Adama | William]], [[Tamara Adama|Tamara]], [[Zak Adama|Zak]] and [[Lee Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Richard Adar]], presumed as he was also the mayor of Caprica City at one point&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Daniel Graystone|Daniel]], [[Amanda Graystone|Amanda]] and [[Zoe Graystone]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lacy Rand]] and her family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Laura Roslin | Laura]], [[Cheryl Roslin|Cheryl]] and [[Sandra Roslin]], as well as their parents&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ben Stark]] and his mother, [[Natalie Stark|Natalie]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kara Thrace|Kara]], [[Socrata Thrace|Socrata]] and (presumably) [[Dreilide Thrace]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* Caprica was and continues to be the world most prominently depicted in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|re-imagined series&#039; continuity]]. It wasn&#039;t until [[Razor]] that another of the Twelve Colonies was actually seen on screen.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11920922009 states] that Caprica had a number of unique lifeforms on its surface though animal transplantation by early Colonists allowed them to be seen on the other planets.&lt;br /&gt;
*The twitter account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11861670347 mentions] that Caprica spends the most on Colonial defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gemenon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors5.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Gemenon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gemenon.JPG|thumb|right|Gemenon and the distant Helios Delta seen from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GemenonCityscape.jpg|thumb|right|A city on Gemenon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Gemini (constellation)|Gemini]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.8 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hera&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Old Gemenese&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Oranu&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Oranu, Illumini&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Kobol Colleges, Illumini Pantheon, Gramada Mountains, Spatiu Gol Plateau, Pustiu Desert&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Gemenon Twins]], Illumini Vipers&lt;br /&gt;
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Gemenon was the first world colonized by the humans of Kobol. It shares its orbit around Helios Alpha with Caprica, completing an rotation once every 28.2 days. Its status as a twin planet gives it its name&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://files.meetup.com/405090/Serge%20Graystone&#039;s%20Twitter%20Feed.pdf Serge Graystone&#039;s Twitter feed]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Its climate can vary wildly, featuring frozen plateaus, and searing deserts, which can make life difficult for its inhabitants.  &lt;br /&gt;
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It was one of the poorer colonies and its people, the Gemenese, were known for their religious fundamentalism ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Despite this fundamentalist approach to the polytheistic Colonial religion, the Gemenese were known to be tolerant of all forms of worship, including monotheism. In fact, the monotheist movement is said to have begun on Gemenon.&lt;br /&gt;
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The people of Gemenon are consistently referred to as &amp;quot;Gemenese&amp;quot; in both the [[Re-imagined Series]] and [[Caprica (series)|Caprica]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the [[First Cylon War]], Gemenon was home to the [[Kobol Colleges]] and a monotheistic cult called &amp;quot;[[Soldiers of the One|The Soldiers of the One]]&amp;quot; ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries, Night 2]]; [[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). Gemenon&#039;s second-largest city, Illumini, was built around a large Pantheon complex, composed of buildings intended to worship and celebrate every deity in the [[Sacred Scrolls]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The Gemenese were known for their literal interpretations of the [[Sacred Scrolls|Scrolls]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Fragged]]&amp;quot;). Most of the population of Gemenon was apparently very strongly opposed to the federal laws legalizing abortion ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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The planet also had either an old or disused language, known as [[Language in the Twelve Colonies|Old Gemenese]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Fall_of_the_Twelve_Colonies|Cylon attack]], Gemenon comes under heavy assault by Cylon air and ground forces, completely obliterating one city with a high-yield nuclear device, and causing extensive damage to another with conventional means. At least one ship, the &#039;&#039;Cybele&#039;&#039;, is able to escape the destruction of its port and occupying Cylon forces, and find Roslin&#039;s fleet ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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Three months after the attacks, approximately 9,500 Gemenese break away from the main fleet, and join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] over [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The large and devoted Gemenese population continues to be an important political factor within the [[The Fleet (RDM)|fugitive fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Adrien Bauer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jurgen Belzen]] and his family&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rya Kibby]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Romo Lampkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sarah Porter]], former delegate to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Corporal [[Venner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* If the word &amp;quot;Inviere&amp;quot; (meaning &amp;quot;Resurrection&amp;quot;) is any indication, Old Gemenese was probably similar to the Romanian language of [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|our Earth]].&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/8705440343 Serge&#039;s Twitter account], Gemenon is the planet that shares its orbit with [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]. This planet is seen at the beginning of the aired &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; pilot, but not identified in said episode.&lt;br /&gt;
* As an Easter Egg in &#039;&#039;[[The Plan]]&#039;&#039;, the building on the lower left of the screen is the same one where the [[memoryalpha:Romulan Senate|Romulan Senate]] assembles in &#039;&#039;[[memoryalpha:Star Trek Nemesis|Star Trek Nemesis]]&#039;&#039;. A detailed picture of this building is available [[memoryalpha:File:Romulan senate building, 2379.jpg|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Leonis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors8.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Leonis]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Leonis.png|thumb|right|A Leonan thoroughfare under Cylon assault.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Leo (constellation)|Leo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.6 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Artemis&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Leonese&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Luminere&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Luminere, Hedon&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Royal Palace of Leonis, Hedon Grand Casino&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Leonis Wildcats]], Hedon Suns&lt;br /&gt;
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Leonis is the second planet in the Helios Beta system, and was geographically known for its open plains ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). The planet itself has no axial tilt, which supports a mild and predictable climate. It was a major hub for both education and industry, and despite Colonial unification, was able to maintain its own language and culture.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the era prior to the [[First Cylon War]], Leonis produced and exported a popular energy drink named &amp;quot;Leonis Red&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Leonis Estates Sparkling Wine]] was a type of alcohol produced on this colony ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the final Cylon [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|attack]], Leonis is struck with at least one, low-yield nuclear device, that was able to stun its residents and disable any means of escape. Those who survived the blast, are then seen being systematically eliminated by both ground and air forces ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). It is unknown if any are collected and used in the Four&#039;s various [[farms]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Safiya Sanne]] is the Leonan representative on the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] after [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Libran==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors11.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Libran]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Libran.gif|thumb|right|The courthouses of Libran.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Libra (constellation)|Libra]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Libris&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.1 million&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Athena&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Themis&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Supreme Hall of Justice, Themis Arena&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: None&lt;br /&gt;
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Libran was known for its courthouses and lawyers ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;), and was the home of the [[Inter-Colonial Court]] ([[CAP]]: &amp;quot;[[Gravedancing]]&amp;quot;). The planet had no official capital.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] stated in[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545438632 this tweet] that Aquaria and Libran &amp;quot;don&#039;t have official capitals&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A major city on Libran was called [[Themis]] which had a large, modern [[pyramid]] arena built sometime before the First Cylon War. Yet at this time Libran had no official pyramid team.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/sports/libran-needs-a-pyramid-team-statim.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Libran Needs a Pyramid Team Statim&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], [[Oswin Eriku]] is chosen to be this colony&#039;s representative to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Zephyr]]&#039;&#039;, a passenger liner in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], is of Libran registry.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was stated in a Fleet overview on scifi.com. This section of the site has long been shut down.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The Colony&#039;s actual name, &#039;&#039;&#039;Libran&#039;&#039;&#039;, was not heard on screen until &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot; but could already be seen on a name plate in &amp;quot;[[The Ties That Bind]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]&amp;quot;. Before that it was often called &#039;&#039;&#039;Libris&#039;&#039;&#039; in secondary publications. &lt;br /&gt;
* The city that is seen when Libran is mentioned in the &amp;quot;Caprica is burning&amp;quot; monologue in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;, bears a striking resemblance to [[Tauron City]], as seen in &amp;quot;[[Know Thy Enemy]]&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/15877355213 says] that the Libran court system served as a body through which trade disputes and legal matters were capable of being sorted amongst the colonies. He also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/15877298276 states] that it is a high earning colony but is not regarded as a desirable place to live.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Picon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors2.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Picon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Picon.png|thumb|right|Picon from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Pisces (constellation)|Pisces]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 1.4 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Poseidon&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Queenstown&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Perkinston, Queenstown, Pailyn&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Colonial Fleet Headquarters, Penrose Harbor&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Picon Panthers]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Picon was a turquoise planet, containing 75% water, and famous for its harbors ([[TRS]]: [[The Plan]]). The capital city was Queenstown, a relatively small fishing village.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanpicon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/p-is-for-paradise-p-is-for-picon.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;&#039;P&#039; Is for &#039;Paradise, &#039;P&#039; Is for Picon&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Caprica, Tauron and Picon [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During the planet&#039;s off-season, most of the landscape became cold and rugged.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanpicon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/p-is-for-paradise-p-is-for-picon.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;&#039;P&#039; Is for &#039;Paradise, &#039;P&#039; Is for Picon&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The planet was often used as a substitute for [[Caprica City]] in Caprican films and TV series.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Unification of the Twelve Colonies this world was the location of the [[Picon Fleet Headquarters|Colonial Fleet Headquarters]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]). Picon was also the home of [[Picon Laboratories]], located in Pailyn, Muritolan  ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Faith]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The colony came under heavy attack during the early stages of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]]. One of the last ships to leave the planet was the &#039;&#039;[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]&#039;&#039;, carrying many wounded people including an unconscious [[Ellen Tigh]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The destruction of Picon&#039;s Fleet Headquarters caused President [[Richard Adar]] to offer a complete and unconditional surrender to the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. This offer was ignored by the invading forces ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Asha Janik]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Billy Keikeya | Billy Keikeya&#039;s]] family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Playa Palacios]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Publications===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Picon Star Tribune]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Picon&#039;s destination as a substitute for Caprica in films and series is likely a reference to Canada, and particularly Vancouver, where both the [[Re-Imagined Series]] and &#039;&#039;[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]&#039;&#039; were filmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/12144717655 According] to Serge&#039;s twitter account, Picon has the most efficient, cooperative and responsive democracy in the colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
*In one [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10988850734 post], it&#039;s said that Picon offers tax incentives for production of TV programs on the planet though Caprica remains the leading producer of such shows.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sagittaron==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Sagittaron}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors10.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Sagittaron]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Sagittarius (constellation)|Sagittarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternative Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: Sagittarion&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 1.7 billion&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Zeus&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Tawa&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Acheron River&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Sagittaron Archers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sagittaron was one of the poorest worlds of the Twelve Colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;). The capital of this planet was Tawa.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Sagittarons were traditionalists who practiced a different form of religion from the other Colonials. They distrusted modern medicine and were generally unsupportive of the military ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Woman King]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Planet endured centuries of exploitation at the hands of the other Colonies. Eventually, [[Tom Zarek]] led an organized series of terrorist acts against the established government there, many years before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall of the Colonies]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A few days after the Cylon attack, 5,251 people from this world reside within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jacob Cantrell]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Portia King | Portia]] and [[Willie King]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clarice Willow]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tom Zarek]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The colony&#039;s name was originally spelled as &amp;quot;Sagittar&#039;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&#039;on&amp;quot; in the [[Miniseries]], but this changed to &#039;&#039;&#039;Sagittaron&#039;&#039;&#039; when the regular series began.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Scorpia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors6.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Scorpia]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ScorpionFleetShipyards1.jpg|thumb|right|Scorpia and and its shipyards from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Scorpius|Scorpio]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 450 million&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Dionysus&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Celeste&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Celeste, Argentum&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Argentum Bay, Guardian Mountains, Scorpia Shipyards&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Scorpia Stingers, Celeste Storms, Celeste Lightning, Argentum Bay Silverstars&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Scorpia was known for its lush jungles and hot temperatures ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). Scorpia&#039;s capital was Celeste.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the [[First Cylon War]] one of the major leisure spots of the world was Argentum Bay, despite the colony&#039;s trashy reputation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/entertainment/argentum-bay-the-ultimate-vernal-break.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Argentum Bay: The Ultimate Vernal Break&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. The Planet was also apparently well-known for its [[Scorpia Paragliding|Paragliding]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After the Unification, Scorpia was home to the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards|Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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During the initial [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], Scorpia falls victim to numerous massive nuclear attacks, destroying much of the population. Cylon forces also focus on the orbiting ship yards, obliterating the structure, destroying numerous Battlestars and support ships, and causing [[Pegasus (RDM)|another one]] to risk a blind jump in order to escape ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Eladio Puasha]] serves as the planet&#039;s delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] assembled after the Fall.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* In an [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/01/caprica-countdown-paula-malcolmsons-moving-away-from-deadwoods-trixie.html LA Times article], Scorpia is described as having a &amp;quot;scorpion tail-like half-ring&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tauron==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Tauron (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors4.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Tauron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tauron.png|thumb|right|[[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] from orbit, and under Cylon assault.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TauronCity.JPG|thumb|right|Pre-Cylon War Minos (Tauron City).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TauronTwinPlanet.JPG|thumb|right|Tauron&#039;s moon, Minos, in the evening sky.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Taurus (constellation)|Taurus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 2.5 billion&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Ares&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Official Language&#039;&#039;&#039;: Tauron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Hypatia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hypatia, [[Tauron City]] (Minos)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: Minos, Olympia Hippadrome, Great Tauron Plains&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Olympia Stallions, Tauron Bulls &lt;br /&gt;
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Tauron was a barren, arid planet that lacked any kind of flowers. However, it was well-known for its agriculture ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). Its capital was [[Hypatia]]&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Caprica, Tauron and Picon [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, another large city was [[Tauron City]]. The planet shared its orbit with another ringed world ([[CAP]]: &amp;quot;[[Know Thy Enemy]]&amp;quot; - see notes).&lt;br /&gt;
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Taurons were known to be very traditional people, even speaking a very old and distinctive [[Language in the Twelve Colonies|language]] ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Some 800 years before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]] Tauron was colonized by [[#Virgon|Virgon]] and [[#Leonis|Leonis]]. The people of Tauron liberated themselves and ever since this world has been known for its troubled and violent history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/opinion/racism-an-unacceptable-aspect-of-caprican-life.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;An Unacceptable Aspect of Caprican Life&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nearly a century before its Fall, Tauron was one of the poorer colonial worlds and the center of a [[Tauron Civil War|civil war]]. A few years before the [[First Cylon War]], the crime syndicate [[Ha&#039;la&#039;tha]] had enormous influence over the planet, which even extended to other colonies, such as [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the War, [[Hypatia]] was was the location of a [[Battle of Tauron|fierce and lossy battle]] against [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon forces]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, extended Edition). &lt;br /&gt;
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After the War, Tauron was known to be a somewhat troublesome colony within the [[Government of the Twelve Colonies|federal system]] of the Colonies, often disobeying directives decided by the colonies and pushing their luck with the admiralty ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Hero]]&amp;quot;). Yet this world was counted among the wealthier of the twelve worlds ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joseph Adama | Joseph]] and [[Sam Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shannon Adama]] and her mother, [[Ruth]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Helena Cain]] and her murdered family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tomas Vergis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The language of Tauron is remarkably similar to Ancient Greek that, thousands of years later, was spoken on [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth | a planet]] on the other side of the galaxy. &lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10335013016 Serge&#039;s Twitter Account] Tauron only has a moon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Serge&#039;s Twitter account also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 stated] Tauron&#039;s capital to be [[Hypatia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virgon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors1.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Virgon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Virgo (constellation)|Virgo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Population&#039;&#039;&#039;: 4.3 billion&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Patron God&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hestia&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Capital&#039;&#039;&#039;: Boskirk&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Cities&#039;&#039;&#039;: Boskirk, Blaustad, Hadrian&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Attractions&#039;&#039;&#039;: House of Parliament, Tower of Virgon, Petrus Palace, Virgon Universities&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyramid Teams&#039;&#039;&#039;: Virgon United, [[Boskirk All Reds]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgon was well-known for its forests ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;) and considered to be one of the wealthier colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). The capital of Virgon was Boskirk.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgon had a declining monarchy and a strong national parliament, at least 58 years before the Fall of the Colonies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mentioned by [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/statuses/10937229785 Serge&#039;s twitter account].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Virgon Brew]] was a beer produced on the planet and exported to other Colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Maelstrom]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon after the beginning of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], the Colonials launch a counter-attack over Virgon. The battle ends with the destruction of the flagship battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]&#039;&#039; and the resulting death of [[Nagala|Fleet Admiral Nagala]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Marshall Bagot]] is the Virgon delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]. He nominates [[Tom Zarek]] for the vice-presidency ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;). In public ceremonies, the Virgon delegate wears a light blue sash.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s Twitter Account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10937229785 states] that Virgon has a declining monarchy with a strong parliament.&lt;br /&gt;
*Virgon draws many parallels with present-day Earth&#039;s England; a declining monarchy, birthplace of Colonial language, coloniser of other planets (comparable to countries) and &#039;Virgon United&#039; and &#039;Boskirk All Reds&#039; are similar to Manchester United, a prominent English football team, also known as the Red Devils.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ithaca]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Valkyrie type battlestar</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: Created page with &amp;quot;{{Ship Data| |image= Bsg-ambush fleet.jpg | title= &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Valkyrie&amp;#039;&amp;#039; type battlestar | race= Colonial | type= Military | ftl= Yes | crew= Unknown | role= Capital battleship/carrier | ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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|image= Bsg-ambush fleet.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title= &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type battlestar&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= 16 small dual mounted turrets, 35 heavy dual turrets capable of firing missiles, Unknown number of point defense guns, at least 6 ship-to-ship missiles silos.&lt;br /&gt;
| length= &lt;br /&gt;
| status= All examples presumed [[Cylon attack|Destroyed]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The &#039;&#039;Valkyre&#039;&#039; type [[Battlestar]]&#039;&#039;&#039; was an advanced class of light Battlestar in the [[Colonial Fleet]] at the time of the [[Second Cylon War|Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. It appears to have been the work horse of the Battlestar fleet, existing in large numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Cylon assault on the Twelve Colonies, several battlestars of the class attempt to engage the Cylons over [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]], only to be disabled by the [[Command Navigation Program|CNP]]&#039;s backdoors. They are destroyed shortly after. ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmAEmuwZY5Q Watch in high definition and pause at 1:18 and 1:43]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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At least two [[unnamed battlestars]] of the class are docked at the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] when it is [[Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards|destroyed]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Design==&lt;br /&gt;
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This class was possibly the smallest class of Battlestar to be used by the Colonial fleet. Measuring around 700 meters long, it&#039;s about the length of the Flight pod on a [[Galactica type battlestar|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; Type Battlestar]].&lt;br /&gt;
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It featured four large sub-light engines, a number of smaller manoeuvring thrusters littered around the ship. In addition to this it is presumed to feature an FTL drive, although there is no on screen evidence of this, the existence of examples millions of kilometres apart would imply that one is installed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Physically it is far more &amp;quot;jagged&amp;quot; then other Battlestar classes, with lots of sharp edges but also plenty of curving lines. The hull is covered with guns, missile launchers and sensors, giving it a sharp and streamlined but functional look. The Class is far more compact then most others, with the pods closer to the main hull and the head being only a couple meters wider then the main hull. The underside of the ship shows much of the internal structures, and lacks significant weaponry, indicating that it is not designed to be exposed to fire in a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s flight pods are single layered. Each Flight pod has 3 viper lunch tubes located in a rectangular section underneath the pod. The tubes run parallel to the Flight deck and pointing forwards. The launch tubes presumably operate in a different way to those on larger ships to allow a higher launch rate. They are also significantly longer. The &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type appears to lack the Raptor pads seen on the [[Mercury Class Battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; Class]], however, there are sections on either side of the head that may serve this purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weaponry ==&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type has more weapons per square meter then any other class. Equipped with 16 small turrets, and 35 heavier (though much smaller then on other classes) ones, it has a huge number of guns. There is also (presumably) an unknown number of point defence guns that would be located between the armour plating (much like on the Mercury). This Class made much more use of missiles then other Classes, with the large turrets being caperble of firing small anti-fighter ones, and with atleast 6 silos containing ship to ship missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
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The airwings size is unknown. However, in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot; the Valkyrie has at least 20 vipers nearby. There is no evidence that this represents the full airwing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Capabilities==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although a small hull (at least when compared to ships like the &#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; Class or &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type) these ships were heavily used. They have been shown to be used for a number of roles including patrols, covert opperations and even planetary protection. The small size, mass production, and apparent range of abilities presumably meant that it was perfect for a peace time fleet, as they would be cheep, and would have a number of uses. It may have lacked the ability to produce Vipers unlike it&#039;s larger cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Yashuman]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mercury Class Battlestar]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galactica type battlestar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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*The &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type battlestar, being of more modern design than [[Galactica type battlestar|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s class]], bears a closer resemblence to the [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] and thus the [[Battlestar (TOS)|battlestars from the original series]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the BSG Film, &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; a couple of &#039;&#039;Valyrie&#039;&#039; types can be seen at the Scorpia Fleet Shipyards with what would appear to be a roll bar above the engine section. This feature is not present during the Cylon attack on the shipyards, leading some to speculate that the ships seen with the roll bar were in fact different to those seen without it. The fact that it cannot be seen whether or not the roll bar is connected to the ship and that no other example of the class has been shown to include it, has lead some to speculate that it was a part of the shipyard. The feature is commonly treated as an upgraded version of the class in fan groups, with added or better ability to operate in an atmosphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The [[Science of Battlestar Galactica]] names two Battestars as being at the Scorpio Fleet shipyards during the attack. These ships, &#039;&#039;Bellerophon&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Remses&#039;&#039; are thus likely examples of this class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Related Imagery ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Valkyrie close up.jpg|Closeup of a &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type battlestar&lt;br /&gt;
Image:3x8-Valkyrie-Firing.jpg|&#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; firing a ship-to-ship missile&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Battlestar Valkyrie The Plan.png|&#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; among her sister ships above Caprica&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Valkyrie CNP Virus Transmission.png|&#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; under attack&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Battlestar Valkyrie CNP Hack.png|&#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; after being disabled by the CNP&#039;s backdoors&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Valkyrie-type battlestarII.jpg|A &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type battlestar destroyed over [[Scorpia]]&lt;br /&gt;
Image:ValykrieFlightPod.jpg|One of the ship&#039;s flight pods&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Valkyrie batteries.jpg|The ship&#039;s batteries&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Fan_fiction&amp;diff=202057</id>
		<title>Fan fiction</title>
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		<updated>2011-04-17T12:20:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: The original one has gone, can no longer find it any ware, the link had broken so I replaced it with another one of the same name.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Want to submit Fandom? Go to the [[:frakr:|Wiki Frakr]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>User talk:JosephK19</title>
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		<updated>2011-02-22T21:35:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: /* Pallas and other Twelve Colonies map pages */&lt;/p&gt;
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How is it done?!? This is the only Wiki(that i&#039;v seen) with compleetly diferent colors and styell can some one tell me how it is don(you can put it on my talk page)?[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 01:50, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This wiki still has a theme in the usual wiki colours but a new desiend was created by some members of this wiki to give it a unique look and feel. The [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki] site has some great tips on how to do all this. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:19, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pallas and other Twelve Colonies map pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s a discussion on [[Template Talk:RDM Planets]] about links and new pages for the individual planets that appear exclusively on the map and are never featured or mentioned in any episode.  Before making more pages, take a look and comment.  My own thought is that if these worlds were never a part of any episode, then they wouldn&#039;t deserve a page of their own, and just including them on the main Twelve Colonies page would suffice.  Also, since the map isn&#039;t canon (see [[Battlestar Wiki:Canon]], most of the information on it is still open to radical change if the writers of &#039;&#039;Blood and Chrome&#039;&#039; see fit, so we should just wait and see. --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 21:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;ve added a notice to the top of the page, and will comment on the discussion you linked. Is that okay? Personally, I think that the article is fine, but would also be happy to see a proper list page with every item on the map included there instead. [[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 21:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Pallas&amp;diff=201633</id>
		<title>Pallas</title>
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		<updated>2011-02-22T21:33:14Z</updated>

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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pallas&#039;&#039;&#039; was a planet in orbit of star [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol#Helios Beta|&amp;quot;Helios Beta&amp;quot;]]. The largest uninhabitable Kobolian planet in  the &amp;quot;Cyrannus system&amp;quot;, Pallas had an inclined orbit between that of [[Virgon]] and [[Leonis]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it has been speculated that Pallas was once able to support life, the planet is now dead and barren. At some point in history an unknown event or series of events lead to the end tectonic activity, presumably the loss of a magnetic field, and subsequent loss of most of the atmosphere to solar wind.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this, Pallas is still has a significant human population and is home to a number of colonies and a presumably important military research station. The planet was significant enough to warrant a number of attempts to Kobolform it, all of which had failed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallas] for the various meanings of the Planets name.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Kobolian&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Kobolform&amp;quot; are the equivalent of Terrestrial and Terraform respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
* There are several similarities between Pallas and real world Mars. They both have a red tinted surface, they are both dead worlds belived to have once been active, and both have been marked as candidates for terrafoming. Infact, that largest differences are that, unlike Mars, Pallas has been reached by humans, and that Mars is much smaller then Pallas.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<updated>2011-02-22T21:31:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{Message_box | id = disambig | heading = The information in this article is derived from the  Quantum Mechanix&amp;#039;s [[Battlestar Galactica Map of the 12 Colonies|Map of the…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Pallas</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: Created page with &amp;#039;Pallas was a planet in orbit of star &amp;quot;Helios Beta&amp;quot;. The largest uninhabitable Kobolian planet in  the &amp;quot;Cyrannus system&amp;quot;, Pallas had an in…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Pallas was a planet in orbit of star [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol#Helios Beta|&amp;quot;Helios Beta&amp;quot;]]. The largest uninhabitable Kobolian planet in  the &amp;quot;Cyrannus system&amp;quot;, Pallas had an inclined orbit between that of [[Virgon]] and [[Leonis]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it has been speculated that Pallas was once able to support life, the planet is now dead and barren. At some point in history an unknown event or series of events lead to the end tectonic activity, presumably the loss of a magnetic field, and subsequent loss of most of the atmosphere to solar wind.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this, Pallas is still has a significant human population and is home to a number of colonies and a presumably important military research station. The planet was significant enough to warrant a number of attempts to Kobolform it, all of which had failed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallas] for the various meanings of the Planets name.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Kobolian&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Kobolform&amp;quot; are the equivalent of Terrestrial and Terraform respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
* There are several similarities between Pallas and real world Mars. They both have a red tinted surface, they are both dead worlds belived to have once been active, and both have been marked as candidates for terrafoming. Infact, that largest differences are that, unlike Mars, Pallas has been reached by humans, and that Mars is much smaller then Pallas.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Scorpion Fleet Shipyards</title>
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		<updated>2011-01-28T11:32:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: /* Docked vessels */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:ScorpionFleetShipyards1.jpg|right|thumb|The shipyards over Scorpia.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Scorpion Fleet Shipyard(s)&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Both &amp;quot;shipyards&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;shipyard&amp;quot; are used in dialogue.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; were a series of [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] drydocks located in orbit around [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Scorpia|Scorpia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The docks themselves appear to be able to accommodate various Colonial vessels including &#039;&#039;[[Thera Sita]]&#039;&#039; type transports. Cargo is transported along the entire length of the facilities by cargo trains that are able to move along both the top and bottom to deliver the cargo to its destinations. The shipyards also feature various points for Colonial craft to replenish their [[Tylium]] supply, and store the fuel in massive storage tanks at various positions along the structure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Defensively, the structure features vary little and must rely on [[Colonial_Fleet_(RDM)|The Fleet]] for long term defense, however, the structure includes various [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] hangars, and anti-aircraft turrets along the entire length of the structure.      &lt;br /&gt;
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In the opening moments of the attacks, the Cylons are able to surprise the Colonials and detonate various nuclear weapons in range of the shipyards, eliminating the use of DRADIS and blinding both sides involved. The detonations also cause moderate damage to the facilities themselves, but leave them intact, indicating they were not directly hit. On fire, and all but defenseless, multiple squadrons of [[Raider_(RDM)|Raiders]] are then able to jump in and finish off the facilities with relative ease, despite being blind. The subsequent assault ultimately destroys the facilities, and various Colonial craft caught in the middle. However, [[Pegasus|one battlestar]] was able to escape detection, break free of her berths, and [[blind jump|escape]] the battle ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Docked vessels ==&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time of the attacks, the shipyards were seen hosting the &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus]]&#039;&#039;, at least one [[Galactica type battlestar|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type]] Battlestar (possibly two) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Only one can be seen in the establishing shot of the shipyard, being enclosed by the superstructure on two sides. However, during the battle, a &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;-type battlestar is shown in a different place. This could mean that the visual effects of the establishing shot and the battle don&#039;t fit together, however this is not far from the location seen in the opening shot, and thus the ship could simply have moved. It is unknown if the two are meant to be the same battlestar.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, at least two [[Valkyrie|&#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type]] Battlestars, and at least two [[Unnamed battlestars#Escort battlestar|&#039;&#039;Berzerk&#039;&#039; type]] support vessels, along with numerous military and civilian transports.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Although the planet is called Scorpia ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;), the location subtitles in &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; identify the shipyard&#039;s name as &amp;quot;Scorpion Fleet Shipyards&amp;quot;. It is possible that the installation is named with an adjectival form of the colony&#039;s ancient name, &amp;quot;Scorpio&amp;quot;. The shipyard is identified as &#039;&#039;Scorpia&#039;&#039; Fleet Shipyards in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*This image of the shipyards and of the planet Scorpia in the background is the first time that viewers have seen any other Colonial planet aside from [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Miniseries]]&amp;quot;). [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] is later shown in the extended DVD cut of &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The shipyards were seen in orbit around the southern hemisphere in &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, but in orbit over Scorpia&#039;s northern hemisphere in &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Science of Battlestar Galactica]] lists battlestars &#039;&#039;Ramses&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Bellerophon&#039;&#039; as two of the ships destroyed at the shipyard.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Related images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:ScorpionFleetShipyards - Close 2.jpg|Closeup&lt;br /&gt;
Image:ScorpionFleetShipyards-Close.jpg|Further closeup&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Scorpio Flottenwerft]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Talk:Trevor Moon/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: Created page with &amp;#039;Can someone please upload an image of the in-completed CGI form the seen? ~~~~&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Can someone please upload an image of the in-completed CGI form the seen? [[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 13:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<title>The Twelve Colonies of Kobol</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: /* Aquaria */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the Twelve Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. See [[The Twelve Colonies of Man]] for information on the Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Colonialseal.png|210px|right|[[Colonial Seal|Seal]] of the Twelve Colonies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The Twelve Colonies of Kobol&#039;&#039;&#039; are twelve distinct worlds, located in a remote part of their home galaxy. For 2,000 years they were home to the human survivors of the Exodus of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mentioned by [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11953827897 Serge&#039;s twitter account], given that Serge&#039;s account corresponds to 58 years before [[The Fall]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After the settlement, the colonies slowly began to prosper and eventually gave birth to a race of cybernetic lifeforms, known as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. Soon after their creation the Cylons raged a devastating war on their creators&#039; home planets which ultimately led to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Wasted and in ruins, the once prosperous home worlds of humanity are finally left to themselves. What becomes of them is unknown to their inhabitants&#039; descendants. &lt;br /&gt;
{{RDM twelve colonies series}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star System==&lt;br /&gt;
The 12 colonies of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] are found within the star system Cyrannus, located some 2,000 light years away from where man first evolved. During the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] one [[Hybrid]] indicates that the Colonies orbit three stars ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). However, the [http://store.qmxonline.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Map-of-the-12-Colonies_p_119.html# official map] of the Colonies reveals a vast and complex system, comprised of four stars; Helios Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta. &lt;br /&gt;
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The stars come together to form two binary systems (Alpha/Beta and Gamma/Delta). Both pairs of stars then orbit each other around a third, central barycenter every 546,892 years. Both binary systems are separated by .16 light years or 10,091 stellar units.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Alpha===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Alpha is a main sequence star of spectral class G2V and has a mass of 1.0 kg, and was the first system settled by the Colonials after the exodus from Kobol, having first set foot on Gemenon. It shares its orbit with Helios Beta at a distance of 63 SU (In this case, 1 SU being equal to the average distance between Helios Alpha and the barycenter of the Caprica-Gemenon system, a rough 150 million km). The pair complete an orbit once every 323 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets&lt;br /&gt;
** Icarus - A small planet located close to the star. It has a molten surface which makes mining and exploration impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
** Picon&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]/Gemenon&lt;br /&gt;
** Erebos asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] - One of only three colonies to feature a moon, named Minos.  &lt;br /&gt;
** Zeus - A gas giant located at the outer edge of the system. This gas giant is the largest planet in the four systems, with a diameter of 153,000 km at the equator. The planet has 74 moons, the largest of which are Nike and Hebe. Constant upper atmosphere lightning creates an aurora effect that can be seen with the naked eye. &lt;br /&gt;
** Persephone - Classified as a dwarf planet, Persephone is the last planet in the system and features an inclined and eccentric orbit. Colonial scientists believe this planet could be an escaped moon of Zeus.&lt;br /&gt;
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This system is unique in the fact that Caprica and Gemenon share an orbit around a common barycenter. According to the Colonial map, the planets orbit eachother once every 28.2 days, and are separated by a distance of 493,000 km.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Beta===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Beta is a main sequence star of spectral class K1V and has a mass of 0.79 kg. It is the second system settled by the Colonials after the exodus from Kobol. It shares its orbit with Helios Alpha at a distance of 63 SU. The pair complete an orbit once every 323 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Troy (RDM)|Troy]] - A small, metal rich planet, mined extensively by Virgon and Leonis since the founding of those two colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
** Leonis&lt;br /&gt;
** Ouranos asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Virgon - One of only three colonies to feature a moon, named Hibernia, and the only naturally habitable moon in the 12 Colonies. It was settled several centuries ago by the Celtans, an ethnic group opposed to Virgon rule.&lt;br /&gt;
** Hera - A gas giant, approxamately 75,000 km in diameter, and the third largest planet in the Cyrannus system. It has 29 moons, the largest of what are Iris and Eubora. &lt;br /&gt;
** Pallas - A small world with an inclined orbit once believed to hold a life sustaining atmosphere. It is no longer tectonically active. However, the Colonials have set up at least seven small colonies and a military research station on the planet. This world also has an inclined orbit. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Gamma===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Gamma is a main sequence star of spectral class G9V and has a mass of 0.89 kg. It is presumably the third system settled by the Colonials. Helios Gamma shares its orbit with Helios Delta at a distance of 70 SU, and completes an orbit once every 436 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets&lt;br /&gt;
** Thanatos - A small planet with a corrosive &#039;sulphur&#039; dioxide atmosphere. This planet is tidally locked to the star, and aptly named for the god of death.&lt;br /&gt;
** Acheron asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Scorpia - Home to the Scorpia Fleet ship yards. The planet features a half ring, thought to be a moon that broke apart nearly 100,000 years ago. &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Sagittaron|Sagittaron]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Libran - Features two small moons and a small ring system. Thought to be captured asteroids, the moons orbit so close to each other, the periodically swap positions. &lt;br /&gt;
** Ophion - A frigid gas giant with diameter of 51,000 km, and an inclined orbit. The planet has 14 moons, all smaller than 10 km in diameter. Studies on the planet have Colonial scientists thinking that Ragnar was originally a member of the Helios Gamma system, while Ophion was not. Scientists think the Ophion was a rouge planet that passed close to Ragnar and caught by the star, pushing Ragnar into its current orbit around the Gamma/Delta system.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Helios Delta===&lt;br /&gt;
Helios Delta is a reddish main sequence star of the spectral class K2V and has a mass of 0.74 kg. It is the last of the four systems to be settled by the Colonials. Helios Delta shares its orbit with Helios Gamma at a distance of 70 SU, and completes an orbit once every 436 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Planets&lt;br /&gt;
** Phoebe - A small world with a high surface temperature and thin atmosphere. &lt;br /&gt;
** Aeolus asteroid belt&lt;br /&gt;
** Aerilon/Hestia/Canceron&lt;br /&gt;
*** Hestia - the smallest gas giant in the Cyrannus star system, Hestia only has a diameter of 47,000 km. It has 17 moons, the largest of which, Kronos and Rhea, share the same orbit. &lt;br /&gt;
** Aquaria&lt;br /&gt;
** Styx - A small planet, with a dense, reducing atmosphere of carbon dioxide, and sulfides.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This system is unique in the fact that Aerilon, Hestia, and Canceron share the same orbit. The planets sit comfortably in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point Lagrangian Points], meaning that the gravitational pull of Helios Delta and Hestia are balanced, allowing two smaller bodies (Aerilon and Canceron) to share the same orbit in a &amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot; position, meaning they will never get close enough to each other in their orbits to cause a collision. Aerilon sits at the L4 point, Hestia at the L2 point, and Canceron at the L5 point. &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Ragnar]] - a gas giant with a diameter of 138,000 km, orbits the entire Helios Gamma and Delta system in a 899.75 year period. It sits about 110 SU away from the central barycenter. The Colonials use the planet as host to [[Ragnar Anchorage]], an orbital refueling station and naval armory that distills hydrocarbons from the planet&#039;s upper atmosphere. It has one moon, Sigurd.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The fact that the Colonies are located within one system originates from a [http://web.archive.org/web/20080620084336/http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/#a000016 blog entry] by Ronald D. Moore.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jane Espenson revealed on Twitter that the Colonies are within a star cluster and share some orbits. The latter fact was finally shown to be true in the TV version of the [[Caprica pilot#Differences between the DVD and TV Cut|series premiere]] of &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Before the canonical figure mentioned above the original [[Miniseries]] script stated a pre-Fall population of about 12 billion. The webisodes &amp;quot;[[The Resistance]]&amp;quot; stated the death of 20 billion people caused by the Cylons. &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/17543741200 mentions] that the exodus from Kobol is believed to be true by the inhabitants of the Twelve Colonies and it was from them that animals such as cats as well as dogs came to the Colonies. Furthermore, the [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/13899240134 twelve planets] are populated with a few other worlds in the star cluster but not many with the settled colonies [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/12891949300 already] possessing some animal as well as plant life. Furthermore, Serge [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/17543813025 states] that all the planets are not democracies but rather each has their own style of government.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|History of the Twelve Colonies}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Home pt1-Kobol.jpg|thumb|[[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], the ancient homeworld of humanity.]]&lt;br /&gt;
About 2,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the last twelve tribes of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] left their planet&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to dialogue from &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[A Measure of Salvation]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;, the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] left Kobol some 2,000 years &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039; the twelve tribes. The Scroll of [[Pythia]] is dated as written 3,600 years before the last exodus of Kobol, and chronicles the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s exodus.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; over conflicts with their [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|gods]], as well as some sort of calamity ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The tribes settled on twelve worlds some distance away ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The tribes&#039; namesakes and icons originally corresponded to the twelve signs of the ancient tribes, although these [[wikipedia:Zodiac|names]] drifted over time ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Flag matches with Colonies from &amp;quot;Encyclopedia Galactica.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]&#039;&#039;. Feb./Mar. 2006: 50-55.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The early Colonies lived (and fought) more as sovereign nations. Some (particularly [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]) prospered, while others (such as [[Sagittaron]] and [[Aerilon]]) were often considered lessers. For peacetime labor forces as well as for wars between each other, humanity created the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. When these [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|early models]] rebelled, the Colonies unified their governments under the [[Articles of Colonization]] sometime before or during the [[Cylon War]] as a federal republic known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Twelve Colonies of Kobol&#039;&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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The official symbol of the Twelve Colonies was the [[Colonial seal]]. The nation also had a distinctive [[Colonial anthem|anthem]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Downfall===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Fall of the Twelve Colonies}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bsyashuman.jpg|thumb|[[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]], shortly before its downfall.]]&lt;br /&gt;
40 years after the end of the devastating war, the Cylons return and cause havoc among the twelve worlds of their creators ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). For some time the Colonies remain occupied by Cylon forces and a [[Caprica resistance|small group of human survivors]]. After nine months, humanity and the Cylons leave the twelve worlds for good ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the original 50 billion inhabitants, only about 55,000 survive the first days of the holocaust. Most of them leave the Colonies behind in two small [[The Fleet (RDM)|fugitive fleets]]. The fleet of the [[Battlestar (RDM)|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; eventually encounters both [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], as well as the original Thirteenth Colony [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. Some time after that, and after the destruction of the [[The Colony|the Cylon home world]], they settle on a [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|beautiful, rich world]], leaving behind the baggage of their Colonial heritage. ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part II]]&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fate===&lt;br /&gt;
The ultimate fate of the Twelve Colonies 150,000 years after [[The Fall]] is unknown. Presumably, after several hundred years, their climates and surfaces would degrade until they resemble the original [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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It can be presumed that by the present-day radiation levels would have lowered past the point in which life would be allowed to flourish once again. However, little, if any traces would remain of the human civilizations that once thrived upon them, excluding remains in space, such as the remnants of [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] or [[Ragnar Anchorage]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aerilon==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Aerilon}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors7.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aerilon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Aerilon was primarily an agricultural world. It was considered to be the &amp;quot;food basket&amp;quot; of the Twelve Colonies and ranked among its poorest members ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). The planet shares an orbit with the gas giant Hestia and Canceron, sitting in the L4 Lagrangian point. Aerilon&#039;s capital was Gaoth.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The mannerisms of Aerilon&#039;s natives were considered rough and rude, at least by [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprican]] standards. The people of this world also spoke with a distinctive accent that was quite hard to cover up ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the very last [[Pyramid (RDM) | Pyramid]] games occurred on Aerilon, right before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Resistance]]&amp;quot;). A [[Lest We Forget|photograph]], showcasing the destruction of Aerilon&#039;s capital, Gaoth, becomes one of the most memorable documents of the Fall of the Twelve Colonies within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;, deleted scene).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Natives ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gaius Baltar | Gaius]] and [[Julius Baltar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sherry Bennett]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sekou Hamilton]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Socinus]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
* On some occasions this colony&#039;s name was also spelled &#039;&#039;&#039;Aerelon&#039;&#039;&#039;. Battlestar Wiki uses the more commonly found &#039;&#039;&#039;Aerilon&#039;&#039;&#039;. There is a similar discrepancy in the pronunciation of the colony&#039;s name. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Aquaria==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors12.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aquaria]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aquarius (constellation)|Aquarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Aquaria is a &amp;quot;frigid&amp;quot; world with only one major land mass: Kyaos, a crescent-shaped continent with volcanoes at both ends. Aquaria was widely known for its vast oceans ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Founded as a scientific research outpost, this remote world has also attracted a small (25000 perminant) but sturdy population know for stuborn independance, social tolerance and a unique bater system. However, the population can swell to as meany as half a million during the anual summerfest, which features music, dance, theater and epic poety&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the lack of an official capital city the government held weekly community meetings that were open to all, citizen or non-citizen. Most issues addressed were voted on and passed by majority vote, even the election of the Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Its first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate within the [[The Fleet (RDM)|fugitive Fleet]], [[Miksa Burian]], votes for [[Tom Zarek]] in the vice-presidential elections ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
* On many occasions this colony&#039;s name was also spelled &#039;&#039;&#039;Aquarion&#039;&#039;&#039;. However, the name &#039;&#039;&#039;Aquaria&#039;&#039;&#039; was heard on screen during the Hybrid&#039;s monologue in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot; and spoken by President Roslin when tallying the votes for vice- president ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Serge&#039;s [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/8704063822 Twitter account] states that both names are viable, with Aquarion being the official name and Aquaria a regional variation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In an [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/01/caprica-countdown-the-music-of-the-master-bear-mccreary.html LA Times article], Aquaria is described as a frigid ocean world, with small volcanic land masses and small communities.  It is also said to be regarded as nothing more than a scientific research outpost by the other Colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545438632 Serge&#039;s twitter account], Aquaria doesn&#039;t have a capital city.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Canceron==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors9.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Canceron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Canceron.png|thumb|left|Canceron from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Cancer (constellation)|Cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The planet was well known for its beaches and had at least one large coastal metropolis ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). The capital was Hades.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to the [[First Cylon War]], Canceron was a very overpopulated and poor colony. Canceron&#039;s major cities such as Hades and Mangala were known to have large slums.  Its large population earned Canceron the nickname &amp;quot;The Largest Democracy&amp;quot; within the colonies, though some believed the government was nothing more than a corrupt Oligarchy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/sports/canceron-wants-a-fourth-pyramid-team.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Canceron Wants a Fourth Pyramid Team&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/opinion/just-wondering-about-that-military-roadblock-thing.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Just Wondering About That Military Roadblock Thing&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the [[Luxury liner | passenger liners]] within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the fleet]], &#039;&#039;[[Pyxis]]&#039;&#039;, is one of the last ships that escapes this world when the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] began. Aboard is the [[Number Six]] copy [[Shelly Godfrey]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Robin Wenutu]] is the Canceron delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] after the Fall.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pyramid Team===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Canceron Hydras]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hades Vice]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mangala Krill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Caprica==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Caprica (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors3.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Caprica]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Caprica from Orbit.jpg|left|thumb|[[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] from orbit.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[w:Capricornus|Capricorn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica was a lush blue-green planet, covered by large oceans and continents. It shared its orbit with an arid desert world ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]], TV version — see notes). Metropolitan areas on the planet included the capital [[Caprica City]], as well as [[Delphi]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica was regarded as the center of Colonial civilization, even long before the [[First Cylon War]]. [[Graystone Industries]] was one of the Colonies&#039; most influential technology developers and had a hand in creating the very [[U-87|first Cylons]]. Some 60 years before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]], Caprica was also plagued by [[Soldiers of the One | religiously]] motivated terrorism ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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After the war, the planet was once again the seat of politics, culture, art, science, learning and even the Colonial government. It was also one of the wealthiest colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Epiphanies]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]] Caprica comes under heavy bombardment by Cylon forces. At least four [[Battlestar (RDM)|battlestars]] are destroyed in its orbit and Caprica City is annihilated in a nuclear explosion ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Fall of Mankind, Caprica is occupied by [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon forces]]. Some of the few remaining [[Caprica resistance|human survivors]] within the Colonies fight on this world for several weeks. The occupation and resistance both end roughly nine months after the attack and the planet is left for good ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Resistance]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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6,250 people from Caprica join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] over [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The overall Caprican survivor population, possibly significantly greater, is unknown (see analysis [[The Fleet (RDM)#Demographics|here]]). An attempted settlement by the survivors of the holocaust is named [[New Caprica]] in honor of the original colony ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The first [[Quorum of Twelve (TRS)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate after the Fall is [[Gaius Baltar]]. Years later this spot is taken by [[Lee Adama]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Adama | William]], [[Tamara Adama|Tamara]], [[Zak Adama|Zak]] and [[Lee Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Richard Adar]], presumed as he was also the mayor of Caprica City at one point&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Daniel Graystone|Daniel]], [[Amanda Graystone|Amanda]] and [[Zoe Graystone]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lacy Rand]] and her family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Laura Roslin | Laura]], [[Cheryl Roslin|Cheryl]] and [[Sandra Roslin]], as well as their parents&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ben Stark]] and his mother, [[Natalie Stark|Natalie]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kara Thrace|Kara]], [[Socrata Thrace|Socrata]] and (presumably) [[Dreilide Thrace]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* Caprica was and continues to be the world most prominently depicted in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|re-imagined series&#039; continuity]]. It wasn&#039;t until [[Razor]] that another of the Twelve Colonies was actually seen on screen.  &lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/8705440343 Sege&#039;s Twitter Account], Caprica shares its orbit with [[Gemenon]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11920922009 states] that Caprica had a number of unique lifeforms on its surface though animal transplantation by early Colonists allowed them to be seen on the other planets.&lt;br /&gt;
*The twitter account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/11861670347 mentions] that Caprica spends the most on Colonial defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gemenon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors5.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Gemenon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gemenon.JPG|thumb|left|Gemenon from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Gemini (constellation)|Gemini]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Gemenon was an arid and xeric red world that shared its orbit with [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]], TV version - see notes). The capital of the planet was Oranu.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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It was one of the poorer colonies and its people, the Gemenese, were known for their religious fundamentalism ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Scattered]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Despite this fundamentalist approach to the polytheistic Colonial religion, the Gemenese were known to be tolerant of all forms of worship, including monotheism. In fact, the monotheist movement is said to have begun on Gemenon.&lt;br /&gt;
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The people of Gemenon are consistently referred to as &amp;quot;Gemenese&amp;quot; in both the [[Re-imagined Series]] and [[Caprica (series)|Caprica]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the [[First Cylon War]], Gemenon was home to the [[Kobol Colleges]] and a monotheistic cult called &amp;quot;[[Soldiers of the One|The Soldiers of the One]]&amp;quot; ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries, Night 2]]; [[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). Gemenon&#039;s second-largest city, Illumini, was built around a large Pantheon complex, composed of buildings intended to worship and celebrate every deity in the [[Sacred Scrolls]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The Gemenese were known for their literal interpretations of the [[Sacred Scrolls|Scrolls]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Fragged]]&amp;quot;). Most of the population of Gemenon was apparently very strongly opposed to the federal laws legalizing abortion ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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The planet also had either an old or disused language, known as [[Language in the Twelve Colonies|Old Gemenese]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Three months after [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]], approximately 9,500 Gemenese join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] over [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot;). The large and devoted Gemenese population continues to be an important political factor within the [[The Fleet (RDM)|fugitive fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GemenonCityscape.jpg|thumb|right|A city on Gemenon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Adrien Bauer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jurgen Belzen]] and his family&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rya Kibby]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Romo Lampkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sarah Porter]], former delegate to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Corporal [[Venner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pyramid Team===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gemenon Twins]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* If the word &amp;quot;Inviere&amp;quot; (meaning &amp;quot;Resurrection&amp;quot;) is any indication, Old Gemenese was probably similar to the Romanian language of [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|our Earth]].&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/8705440343 Serge&#039;s Twitter account], Gemenon is the planet that shares its orbit with [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]. This planet is seen at the beginning of the aired &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; pilot, but not identified in said episode.&lt;br /&gt;
* As an Easter Egg in &#039;&#039;[[The Plan]]&#039;&#039;, the building on the lower left of the screen is the same one where the [[memoryalpha:Romulan Senate|Romulan Senate]] assembles in &#039;&#039;[[memoryalpha:Star Trek Nemesis|Star Trek Nemesis]]&#039;&#039;. A detailed picture of this building is available [[memoryalpha:File:Romulan senate building, 2379.jpg|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Leonis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors8.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Leonis]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Leonis.png|thumb|left|A Leonan thoroughfare under Cylon assault.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Leo (constellation)|Leo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Leonis was geographically known for its open plains ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). Its capital was Luminere.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In the era prior to the [[First Cylon War]], Leonis produced and exported a popular energy drink named &amp;quot;Leonis Red&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Leonis Estates Sparkling Wine]] was a type of alcohol produced on this colony ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Safiya Sanne]] is the Leonan representative on the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] after [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pyramid Team===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leonis Wildcats]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Libran==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors11.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Libran]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Libran.gif|thumb|left|The courthouses of Libran.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Libra (constellation)|Libra]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Libran was known for its courthouses and lawyers ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;), and was the home of the [[Inter-Colonial Court]] ([[CAP]]: &amp;quot;[[Gravedancing]]&amp;quot;). The planet had no official capital.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] stated in[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545438632 this tweet] that Aquaria and Libran &amp;quot;don&#039;t have official capitals&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A major city on Libran was called [[Themis]] which had a large, modern [[pyramid]] arena built sometime before the First Cylon War. Yet at this time Libran had no official pyramid team.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/sports/libran-needs-a-pyramid-team-statim.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Libran Needs a Pyramid Team Statim&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], [[Oswin Eriku]] is chosen to be this colony&#039;s representative to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Zephyr]]&#039;&#039;, a passenger liner in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], is of Libran registry.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was stated in a Fleet overview on scifi.com. This section of the site has long been shut down.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The Colony&#039;s actual name, &#039;&#039;&#039;Libran&#039;&#039;&#039;, was not heard on screen until &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot; but could already be seen on a name plate in &amp;quot;[[The Ties That Bind]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]&amp;quot;. Before that it was often called &#039;&#039;&#039;Libris&#039;&#039;&#039; in secondary publications. &lt;br /&gt;
* The city that is seen when Libran is mentioned in the &amp;quot;Caprica is burning&amp;quot; monologue in &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;, bears a striking resemblance to [[Tauron City]], as seen in &amp;quot;[[Know Thy Enemy]]&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s twitter account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/15877355213 says] that the Libran court system served as a body through which trade disputes and legal matters were capable of being sorted amongst the colonies. He also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/15877298276 states] that it is a high earning colony but is not regarded as a desirable place to live.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Picon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors2.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Picon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Picon.png|thumb|left|Picon from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Pisces (constellation)|Pisces]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Picon was a turquoise planet, mainly covered by water and famous for its harbors ([[TRS]]: [[The Plan]]). The capital city was Queenstown, a relatively small fishing village.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanpicon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/p-is-for-paradise-p-is-for-picon.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;&#039;P&#039; Is for &#039;Paradise, &#039;P&#039; Is for Picon&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Caprica, Tauron and Picon [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During the planet&#039;s off-season, most of the landscape became cold and rugged.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanpicon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/p-is-for-paradise-p-is-for-picon.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;&#039;P&#039; Is for &#039;Paradise, &#039;P&#039; Is for Picon&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The planet was often used as a substitute for [[Caprica City]] in Caprican films and TV series.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capricanvacations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/lifestyle/top-5-off-beat-vacation-destinations.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Top 5 Off-Beat Vacation Destinations&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Unification of the Twelve Colonies this world was the location of the [[Picon Fleet Headquarters|Colonial Fleet Headquarters]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]). Picon was also the home of [[Picon Laboratories]], located in Pailyn, Muritolan  ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Faith]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The colony came under heavy attack during the early stages of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]]. One of the last ships to leave the planet was the &#039;&#039;[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]&#039;&#039;, carrying many wounded people including an unconscious [[Ellen Tigh]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The destruction of Picon&#039;s Fleet Headquarters caused President [[Richard Adar]] to offer a complete and unconditional surrender to the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. This offer was ignored by the invading forces ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Asha Janik]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Billy Keikeya | Billy Keikeya&#039;s]] family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Playa Palacios]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Publications===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Picon Star Tribune]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pyramid Team===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Picon Panthers]] &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Picon&#039;s destination as a substitute for Caprica in films and series is likely a reference to Canada, and particularly Vancouver, where both the [[Re-Imagined Series]] and &#039;&#039;[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]&#039;&#039; were filmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/12144717655 According] to Serge&#039;s twitter account, Picon has the most efficient, cooperative and responsive democracy in the colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
*In one [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10988850734 post], it&#039;s said that Picon offers tax incentives for production of TV programs on the planet though Caprica remains the leading producer of such shows.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sagittaron==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Sagittaron}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors10.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Sagittaron]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Sagittarius (constellation)|Sagittarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sagittaron was one of the poorest worlds of the Twelve Colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;). The capital of this planet was Tawa.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Sagittarons were traditionalists who practiced a different form of religion from the other Colonials. They distrusted modern medicine and were generally unsupportive of the military ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Woman King]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The Planet endured centuries of exploitation at the hands of the other Colonies. Eventually, [[Tom Zarek]] led an organized series of terrorist acts against the established government there, many years before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall of the Colonies]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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A few days after the Cylon attack, 5,251 people from this world reside within [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[33]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jacob Cantrell]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anastasia Dualla]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Portia King | Portia]] and [[Willie King]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clarice Willow]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tom Zarek]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pyramid Team===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sagittaron Archers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The colony&#039;s name was originally spelled as &amp;quot;Sagittar&#039;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&#039;on&amp;quot; in the [[Miniseries]], but this changed to &#039;&#039;&#039;Sagittaron&#039;&#039;&#039; when the regular series began.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Scorpia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ScorpionFleetShipyards1.jpg|thumb|left|Scorpia and and its shipyards from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors6.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Scorpia]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Scorpius|Scorpio]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorpia was known for its lush jungles and hot temperatures ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;). Scorpia&#039;s capital was Celeste.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the [[First Cylon War]] one of the major leisure spots of the world was Argentum Bay, despite the colony&#039;s trashy reputation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/entertainment/argentum-bay-the-ultimate-vernal-break.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;Argentum Bay: The Ultimate Vernal Break&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. The Planet was also apparently well-known for its [[Scorpia Paragliding|Paragliding]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Unification, Scorpia was home to the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards|Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]]. This structure comes under heavy fire during the initial [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], destroying five ships and causing [[Pegasus (RDM)|another one]] to risk a blind jump in order to escape ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Eladio Puasha]] serves as the planet&#039;s delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] assembled after the Fall.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* In an [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/01/caprica-countdown-paula-malcolmsons-moving-away-from-deadwoods-trixie.html LA Times article], Scorpia is described as having a &amp;quot;scorpion tail-like half-ring&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tauron==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Tauron (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors4.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Tauron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tauron.png|thumb|left|[[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] from orbit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Taurus (constellation)|Taurus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tauron was a barren, arid planet that lacked any kind of flowers. However, it was well-known for its agriculture ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]). Its capital was [[Hypatia]]&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Caprica, Tauron and Picon [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, another large city was [[Tauron City]]. The planet shared its orbit with another ringed world ([[CAP]]: &amp;quot;[[Know Thy Enemy]]&amp;quot; - see notes).&lt;br /&gt;
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Taurons were known to be very traditional people, even speaking a very old and distinctive [[Language in the Twelve Colonies|language]] ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Some 800 years before [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the Fall]] Tauron was colonized by [[#Virgon|Virgon]] and [[#Leonis|Leonis]]. The people of Tauron liberated themselves and ever since this world has been known for its troubled and violent history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://showblogs.syfy.com/caprican/opinion/racism-an-unacceptable-aspect-of-caprican-life.php &#039;&#039;The Caprican&#039;&#039; article: &amp;quot;An Unacceptable Aspect of Caprican Life&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nearly a century before its Fall, Tauron was one of the poorer colonial worlds and the center of a [[Tauron Civil War|civil war]]. A few years before the [[First Cylon War]], the crime syndicate [[Ha&#039;la&#039;tha]] had enormous influence over the planet, which even extended to other colonies, such as [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] ([[CAP]]: [[Caprica pilot|Pilot]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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During the War, [[Hypatia]] was was the location of a [[Battle of Tauron|fierce and lossy battle]] against [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon forces]] ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, extended Edition). &lt;br /&gt;
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After the War, Tauron was known to be a somewhat troublesome colony within the [[Government of the Twelve Colonies|federal system]] of the Colonies, often disobeying directives decided by the colonies and pushing their luck with the admiralty ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Hero]]&amp;quot;). Yet this world was counted among the wealthier of the twelve worlds ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joseph Adama | Joseph]] and [[Sam Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shannon Adama]] and her mother, [[Ruth]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Helena Cain]] and her murdered family&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tomas Vergis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* The language of Tauron is remarkably similar to Ancient Greek that, thousands of years later, was spoken on [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth | a planet]] on the other side of the galaxy. &lt;br /&gt;
* According to [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10335013016 Serge&#039;s Twitter Account] Tauron only has a moon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Serge&#039;s Twitter account also [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545200174 stated] Tauron&#039;s capital to be [[Hypatia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virgon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors1.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Virgon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Virgo (constellation)|Virgo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgon was well-known for its forests ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[The Plan]]&amp;quot;) and considered to be one of the wealthier colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Dirty Hands]]&amp;quot;). The capital of Virgon was Boskirk.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;capitals1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/ Serge&#039;s twitter account] mentioned the capitals of Gemenon, Virgon, Leonis, Sagittaron, Scorpia, Canceron and Aerilon in [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10545377704 this tweet].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgon had a declining monarchy and a strong national parliament, at least 58 years before the Fall of the Colonies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mentioned by [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/statuses/10937229785 Serge&#039;s twitter account].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Virgon Brew]] was a beer produced on the planet and exported to other Colonies ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Maelstrom]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon after the beginning of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], the Colonials launche a counter-attack over Virgon. The battle ends with the destruction of the flagship battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Atlantia (RDM) | Atlantia]]&#039;&#039; and the resulting death of [[Nagala|Fleet Admiral Nagala]] ([[TRS]]: [[Miniseries]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Marshall Bagot]] is the Virgon delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]. He nominates [[Tom Zarek]] for the vice-presidency ([[TRS]]: &amp;quot;[[Colonial Day]]&amp;quot;). In public ceremonies, the Virgon delegate wears a light blue sash.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pyramid Team===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Boskirk All Reds]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*Serge&#039;s Twitter Account [http://twitter.com/SergeGraystone/status/10937229785 states] that Virgon has a declining monarchy with a strong parliament.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ithaca]]&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
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		<title>Athena (battlestar)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;For other uses of this name in &#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039;, see [[Athena]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| title= Athena&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Carrier / battleship hybrid&lt;br /&gt;
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| status= Presumed scrapped or destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
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The battlestar &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; served during the [[Cylon War]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Saul Tigh]] served admirably aboard this ship as a Viper pilot, earning a number of medals. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Cylon Intelligence Report: Personnel File: Saul Tigh.&amp;quot; [[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]. Feb./Mar. 2006: 62.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Tigh joined the Colonial Officer Candidate School and was reassigned as a [[Viper Mark II|Viper]] pilot, something he excelled in, earning a string of medals in his post aboard the battlestar &#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Given her participation in the Cylon War, &#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039; is almost certain to be one of the twelve [[Galactica type battlestar|original battlestars]] like her sister, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;. However, there is not 100% proof that &#039;&#039;Athena&#039;s&#039;&#039; actual class is the same as Galactica. It can not  be confirmed with this little information.&lt;br /&gt;
*The series bible implys that the &amp;quot;Athena&amp;quot; was one of only three ships of Galactica&#039;s class to survive the war. As such it is likely that the &amp;quot;Athena&amp;quot; was one of the Battlestars involved in &amp;quot;[[Operation Raptor Talon]]&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>The Twelve Colonies of Kobol</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the Twelve Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. See [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)]] for information on the Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Home pt1-Kobol.jpg|left|thumb|[[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], the ancient homeworld of humanity.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Capricacitydaybreak1.jpg|right|thumb|[[Caprica City]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Approximately 2,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the last twelve tribes of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] leave their planet&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to dialogue from &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[A Measure of Salvation]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;, the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] left Kobol some 2,000 years &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039; the twelve tribes. The Scroll of [[Pythia]] is dated as written 3,600 years before the last exodus of Kobol, and chronicles the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s exodus.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; over conflicts with their [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|gods]], as well as a &amp;quot;sort of calamity&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As noted by [[Billy Keikeya]] in &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The tribes settle on twelve worlds spread out over three neighbouring star systems some distance away&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The [[Hybrid]] &amp;quot;twelve battles, three stars&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]], [[The Plan]]). The tribes&#039; namesakes and icons originally corresponded to the twelve signs of the ancient tribes, although these [[wikipedia:Zodiac|names]] drifted over time&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Flag matches with Colonies from &amp;quot;Encyclopedia Galactica.&amp;quot; [[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]. Feb./Mar. 2006: 50-55.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[Home, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The early Colonies lived (and fought) more as sovereign nations. Some (particularly Caprica) prospered, while others (such as Sagittaron and Aerelon) were often considered lessers. For peacetime labor forces as well as for wars between each other, humanity created the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. When these [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|early models]] rebelled, the Colonies unified their governments under the [[Articles of Colonization]] sometime before or during the [[Cylon War]] as a federal republic known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Twelve Colonies of Kobol&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Note the difference between the name of the Original Series&#039; counterpart, known as the [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)|the Twelve Colonies of &#039;&#039;Man&#039;&#039;]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The official symbol of the Twelve Colonies is the [[Colonial seal]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star System==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Twelve Colonies of Kobol are located in orbit of three stars, known as Cyrannus  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine&#039;&#039;; &amp;quot;Encyclopedia Galactica&amp;quot;; issue #3; page 51&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (note, it is not specifyed exactly what Cyrannius is. Weather it is one of the tree stars, the name of the system (in the case of a trinary system,) or a name uses to refer to all three stars at once. In a [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/#a000016 blog entry] Ronald D. Moore states that all planets are situated within one system, in keeping with the Original Series, yet &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;The Plan&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; would appear to contradict this with the quote; &amp;quot;12 battles...3 stars&amp;quot;, implying the twelve words are spread out over three star systems. However it is possible, and likly, that Cyrannus is a  trinary star system.&lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica, Scorpia ([[Razor]]), Picon (The Plan), Canceron (The Plan) and Tauron (Razor) have been shown as actual planets. The surfaces of Caprica, Tauron (Razor), Gemenon, Picon, Libran, and Virgon (The Plan) have been seen. No other descriptions are available of the other colonies in terms of their celestial type: Minor planet, moon, or major planet. However, in the [[Miniseries]], [[Elosha]] states that the tribes settled onto &amp;quot;12 worlds.&amp;quot; While the use of &amp;quot;worlds&amp;quot; is ambiguous, the Colonies are noted as independent, habitable celestial bodies. In the [[Miniseries]], [[William Adama|Adama]] reports that nuclear detonations were reported on the planets Aerilon, Picon, Sagittarion and Gemenon, saying that at least those four Coloinies were planets.&lt;br /&gt;
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In a [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/#a000016 blog entry] Ronald D. Moore states that all planets are situated within one system, in keeping with the Original Series, yet &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;The Plan&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; would appear to contradict this with the quote; &amp;quot;12 battles...3 stars&amp;quot;, implying the twelve words are spread out over three star systems. However it is possible that Cyrannus is a  trinary star system.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Twelve Colonies had approximately 50 billion inhabitants prior to the Cylon attack ([[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]])&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An early draft Miniseries script notes a census count of 12 billion individuals. However, the aired information of Kara Thrace&#039;s approximation in &amp;quot;A Disquiet Follows My Soul&amp;quot; should be taken as the correct value.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and maintained some minor observatories and listening posts in outlying star systems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/index.html#a000016 Sourced from a January 30, 2005] blog entry by [[Ronald D. Moore]] on Sci-Fi.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Economic activity, such as [[tylium]] mining also occurred outside of the immediate vicinity around the Colonies ([[Hero]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The fate of the star system of the Twelve Colonies is unknown even 150,000 years after the Cylon attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aerilon==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{mainarticle|Aerilon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColonialColors7.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aerilon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Aerilon was primarily an agricultural world. It was considered to be the &amp;quot;food basket&amp;quot; of the Twelve Colonies. Despite this, Aerilon was ranked as one of the poorest members of the Colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Gaius Baltar]] is a native of Aerilon, although he adopted the culture and mannerisms of Caprica, presumably to increase his standing in society ([[Dirty Hands]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Natives ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Julius Baltar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sherry Bennett]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sekou Hamilton]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sharon Valerii]] (alleged, actually a [[humanoid Cylon]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Saul Tigh]] (alleged, actually a [[humanoid Cylon]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Socinus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The spelling of this colony is sometimes inconsistent in the Re-imagined Series&#039; official cast and crew notes and episode content. The colony is spelled &amp;quot;Aerilon&amp;quot; in the episodes &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[The Son Also Rises]]&amp;quot; in official Colonial documentation. Battlestar Wiki chooses to use the more consistently used spelling of &amp;quot;Aerilon&amp;quot; which mainly appears on both props (such as the nameplates for the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]) and behind the scenes publications.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aquaria==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors12.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aquaria]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Aquarius (constellation)|Aquarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Aquaria was widely known for its vast oceans ([[The Plan]]).  Its [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate, [[Miksa Burian]], votes for [[Tom Zarek]] in the vice-presidential elections ([[Colonial Day]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Canceron==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors9.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Canceron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Canceron.png|thumb|left|Canceron from orbit ([[The Plan]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Cancer (constellation)|Cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Robin Wenutu.jpg|thumb|right|120px|Wenutu on &#039;&#039;[[Cloud 9]]&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Robin Wenutu]] is the Canceron delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The colony was well known for its beaches and was briefly seen from orbit during &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot; as having a large coastal metropolis.  The Number Six Cylon [[Shelly Godfrey]] was travelling on a passenger transport in orbit over Canceron just as the bombardment of the planet began ([[The Plan]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Caprica==&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Caprica (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors3.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Caprica]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[w:Capricornus|Capricorn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Caprica is a large blue-green planet and was the the center of Colonial civilization. According to [[Gaius Baltar]], Caprica was the seat of politics, culture, art, science, and learning. It was also one of the wealthier colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Big cities on the planet were [[Caprica City]] and [[Delphi]].&lt;br /&gt;
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6,250 people from Caprica join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] ([[Home, Part I]]). The overall Caprican survivor population, possibly significantly greater, is unknown (see analysis [[The Fleet (RDM)#Demographics|here]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*All events of Colonial life prior, during or after the Cylon attack (particularly in seasons 1 and 2) outside of the rag-tag [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] was set on Caprica. No other colony&#039;s surface (save a [[Lest We Forget|photo from Aerelon]]) has been shown to viewers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Until the episode &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, where Scorpia and Tauron are shown from orbit, Caprica has been the only Colonial planet actually shown in the Re-imagined Series.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gemenon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors5.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Gemenon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gemenon.png|thumb|left|A suburb of Gememon during the Cylon attack ([[The Plan]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Gemini (constellation)|Gemini]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Venner.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[Marines|Marine]] Corporal [[Venner]], a native of Gemenon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Gemenon natives are called Gemenese ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]). They are known for their literal interpretations of the [[Sacred Scrolls]] ([[Fragged]]). Most of the population of Gemenon was apparently very strongly opposed to the federal laws legalizing abortion. ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gemenon was home to the Kobol Colleges. [[Aaron Doral]] claims to have studied public relations there. One of the last ever professional [[Pyramid (RDM)|Pyramid]] games was held on Gemenon just prior to the [[Cylon attack]] on the Colonies ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gemenon was one of the poorer colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Approximately 9,500 Gemenese join the [[Laura Roslin faction]], perhaps persuaded by [[Roslin]]&#039;s play of the &amp;quot;religious card&amp;quot;  ([[Home, Part I]]). Even if this is the great majority of the Fleet&#039;s Gemenese population, it still means that Gemenon represents significantly more than a twelfth of the remains of humanity. It is maybe for this reason, or Gemenese influence over religious elements of the Fleet that Roslin&#039;s election campaign gives concern to the &amp;quot;Gemenese religious vote&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fifty-eight years before the fall of the Twelve Colonies three Caprican teenagers, [[Zoe Graystone]], [[Ben Stark]] and [[Lacy Rand]] who were part of a monotheistic religious cult attempt to run away from home to Gemenon. ([[Caprica pilot]])   &lt;br /&gt;
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Gemenon has either an old or disused language or dialect specific to their colony known as &amp;quot;Old Gemenese.&amp;quot; [[Gina Inviere]]&#039;s last name means &amp;quot;resurrection&amp;quot; in that language.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Language in the Twelve Colonies]] for more.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Adrien Bauer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Romo Lampkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jurgen Belzen]] and family&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gina Inviere]] (alleged, actually a [[humanoid Cylon]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rya Kibby]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sarah Porter]], former delegate to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galen Tyrol]] (alleged, actually a [[humanoid Cylon]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Corporal [[Venner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Leonis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors8.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Leonis]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Leonis.png|thumb|left|A Leonisian thoroughfare under Cylon assault ([[The Plan]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Leo (constellation)|Leo]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Leonis was known for it open plains ([[The Plan]]).  [[Safiya Sanne]] is identified as both Leonis&#039;s and [[#Picon|Picon]]&#039;s representative on the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Leonis Estates Sparkling Wine]] was a type of alcohol produced on this colony.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Libran==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors11.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Libran]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Libran.png|thumb|left|One of Libran&#039;s famed courthouses ([[The Plan]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Libra (constellation)|Libra]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Practically no information exists about this colony other than it appears to be the judicial centre of the Colonies ([[The Plan]]).  Its name comes from a partially visible name plate on &#039;&#039;Colonial One&#039;&#039; that also shows the colony&#039;s symbol (&amp;quot;[[The Ties That Bind]]&amp;quot;, time index 18:40).&lt;br /&gt;
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In the season 4 episode &amp;quot;[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]&amp;quot;, a much clearer view of the name plate can be seen as the camera view pans around the Quorum table during Vice President Zarek&#039;s speech.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], [[Oswin Eriku]] is chosen to be this colony&#039;s representative to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Zephyr]]&#039;&#039;, a passenger liner in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], is of Libran registry (SciFi.com).&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;Note: According to issue 3 of the now-defunct &#039;&#039;[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]&#039;&#039;, the colony&#039;s name is &amp;quot;Libris&amp;quot;, which is incorrect.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Picon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors2.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Picon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Picon.png|thumb|left|Picon from orbit ([[The Plan]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Pisces (constellation)|Pisces]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Playa Palacios.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[Playa Palacios]], a native of Picon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Picon was the location for the [[Picon Fleet Headquarters|Colonial Fleet Headquarters]] ([[Miniseries]]). A [[Hero|flashback view]] of Admiral [[Peter Corman]]&#039;s office, probably located at Fleet Headquarters, is among one of the rare visual glimpses of life on another colony outside of Caprica.  The planet was covered mainly by water and known for its harbours ([[The Plan]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The colony came under heavy attack during the early stages of the Cylon attack. President [[Richard Adar]] offered a complete and unconditional surrender to the Cylons after Fleet Headquarters is destroyed; this overture was ignored ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Ellen Tigh]] was visiting a strip club on Picon when the attack started, though she claims to have been at the airport.  A man who she met at the bar, an [[Number One|&amp;quot;unknown savior&amp;quot;]] ensured she was put on the last ship to get off the planet ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]], [[No Exit]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Picon is also the home of [[Picon Laboratories]], themselves located in Pailyn, Muritolan.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Natives===&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Samuel Anders]] (alleged, actually a [[humanoid Cylon]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Asha Janik]], Cylon sympathizer, member of the [[Demand Peace]] movement ([[Epiphanies]]).&lt;br /&gt;
* The siblings, nephews and nieces of [[Billy Keikeya]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Playa Palacios]], veteran columnist from the &#039;&#039;Picon Star Tribune&#039;&#039;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;She is presumed to be a resident.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Safiya Sanne]], former Picon representative to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There is some confusion on the matter, see [[Safiya Sanne|his article]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Publications===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Picon Star Tribune]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pyramid Team===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Picon Panthers]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sagittaron==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{mainarticle|Sagittaron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColonialColors10.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Sagittaron]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Sagittarius (constellation)|Sagittarius]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sagittaron&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The colony&#039;s name, Sagittaron, was originally spelled as &amp;quot;Sagittar&#039;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&#039;on&amp;quot; in the [[Miniseries]], but this changed to &amp;quot;Sagittaron&amp;quot; when the regular series began.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; endured centuries of exploitation at the hands of the other Colonies, leading to the colony becoming one of the poorest planets. Eventually, [[Tom Zarek]] led an organized series of terrorist acts against the established government there, many years before the fall of the Colonies ([[Bastille Day]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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The Sagittarons are traditionalists who practice an different form of religion from the other Colonies. They believe in herbal medicine and have a general distrust of the military ([[The Woman King]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Anastasia Dualla]], stated often that she was from Sagittaron ([[33]]), ([[Bastille Day]]), ([[The Woman King]]).&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jacob Cantrell]], was the season 4 delegate from Sagittaron&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Portia King]], was from Sagittaron and requested help for her son ([[The Woman King]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Willie King]], was from Sagittaron and killed by Dr. Robert ([[The Woman King]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tom Zarek]], was a freedom fighter from Sagittaron ([[Bastille Day]]) who became the Quorum delegate ([[Colonial Day]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Scorpia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ScorpionFleetShipyards1.jpg|thumb|left|Scorpia and and its shipyards from orbit ([[Razor]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors6.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Scorpia]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Scorpius|Scorpio]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorpia was home to a [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards|shipyard]], where the battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; was docked during the Cylon attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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Scorpia is apparently [[Scorpia Paragliding|well-known]] for its paragliding by enthusiasts, such as [[Jurgen Belzen]] ([[Razor]]), and also had lush jungles ([[The Plan]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Eladio Puasha]] served as the planet&#039;s delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] assembled after the Cylon attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*In the episode &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, Scorpia is shown from orbit of its shipyards. Scorpia, Caprica and Tauron are the only Colonial planets actually shown in the Re-imagined Series as of this special season 4 episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tauron==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{mainarticle|Tauron (RDM)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColonialColors4.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Tauron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tauron.png|thumb|left|Tauron from orbit ([[Razor]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Taurus (constellation)|Taurus]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tauron was an agricultural colony reputed to be a somewhat troublesome colony within the [[Government of the Twelve Colonies|federal system]] of the Colonies, often disobeying directives decided by the colonies and &amp;quot;pushing their luck with the admiralty every chance they got.&amp;quot; ([[Hero]]). Tauron was one of the wealthier colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]) known for its agriculture, lack of flowers, the [[Ha&#039;la&#039;tha]] crime syndicate, and the center of a [[Tauron Civil War|civil war]] some 80-100 years before the Fall ([[Caprica pilot|&#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; pilot]]). At the end of the first [[Cylon War]], Tauron was [[Battle of Tauron|under attack]] from Cylon basestars and ground forces, causing many civilian causalities (&amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, extended DVD edition) in areas such as the city of [[Hypatia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*Tauron is the third of the twelve Colonial worlds shown in the Re-imagined Series, but only through the extended DVD version of &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;. The extended version scene shows a brief scene on the surface with the terrified Cain family, but there is little detail.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]&#039;&#039;, the native language of the Taurons was shown to be Ancient Greek.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virgon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColonialColors1.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Virgon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Virgon.png|thumb|left|An urban centre on Virgon ([[The Plan]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ancient Name&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[wikipedia:Virgo (constellation)|Virgo]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Marshall Bagot.jpg|right|thumb|110px|[[Marshall Bagot]], a native of Virgon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Marshall Bagot]] is the Virgon delegate to the first [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]. He nominates [[Tom Zarek]] for the vice-presidency ([[Colonial Day]]). In public ceremony, the Virgon delegate wears a light blue sash.&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon after the Cylon attack begins, the bulk of the space-wide offensive by the Colonials begins &amp;quot;shaping up&amp;quot; over the planet. The battle ostensibly ends with the destruction of the battlestar &#039;&#039;[[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]&#039;&#039; and the death of Admiral [[Nagala]]. Other battlestars in the Virgon attack are also eliminated ([[Miniseries, Night 1]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgon was one of the wealthier colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]) and was well known for its forests ([[The Plan]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Virgon Brew]] was a beer produced on the planet and exported to other Colonies ([[Maelstrom]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Colonial anthem]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ithaca]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Before anyone asks, here is the source: http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000pbh0a/g261 &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
See the seal in the background --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:59, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good Job Serenity!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:38, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn&#039;t create the article though :p --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:42, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, but you spotted the name on the seal.  Well, whoever spotted it first, good job!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:44, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyone else notice Tigh?--[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:47, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You mean the eye? This is probably flashback scene. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:50, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::With Admiral pips?[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;18:52, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The description below says &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander&#039;&#039;&#039; William Adama&amp;quot;, as opposed to the next photo. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:56, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The rank differences clearly IDs the photo spot as a flashback.  Look at the pips on the collar!  What are the left collar pips verses the rank pips on the right?  (Right-Left relative to the wearer) This is especially noticable on the Admiral Corman shot.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:02, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s most likely a flashback. Maybe Adama and Tigh served on the Valkyrie and that&#039;s where [[Bulldog]] was under Adama&#039;s command. I can&#039;t really make out the rank pins. They look a bigger than Commander&#039;s insignia, but the picture quality isn&#039;t that good --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:09, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another question, in 8 of 9 shot on that webpage, I am guessing its a flashback scene because Lee is wearing Captain&#039;s pips, but he also has a Battlestar Galactica badge on his shoulder.  I thought he wasn&#039;t assigned to the Galactica prior to the miniseries?  Is that the implication here or a clothing manfunction?  hehe...--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:26, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I read something that he might be demoted back to Captain. Not sure about it, but it makes sense. I guess they could keep him as Major or even Colonel, but there isn&#039;t really a job opening for a Commander at the moment. &lt;br /&gt;
:But looking at it more closely that might even be Major. Major and Captain look very similar, with Major having three chevron, the top one of which is directly on the diamond&#039;s edge --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:28, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The original [[Jackson Spencer|CAG]] of Galactica that we see was a Major. Also, in the Miniseries, Apollo didn&#039;t wear a unit patch at all on his shoulder when he got to Galactica, pehaps since he was in the Reserves. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:21, 3 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::In &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, the name plate on Lee&#039;s viper reads &amp;quot;Maj. Lee Adama&amp;quot;. So I don&#039;t think he will be demoted any time soon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:54, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve deleted this line &amp;quot;both William Adama and Saul Tigh served on the Valkyrie&amp;quot; this is not canon, also many rumors going around are that Adama was involved in a covert operations against the cylons so he might have simply gone to the Valkyrie to be issued orders or debriefed etc, point is, we don&#039;t know. --[[user:lordmutt|lordmutt]] 19:13, 10 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a two-minute video out there, that pretty much confirms that Adama and Tigh were sent to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; for a special mission. Something about using a stealth ship to make a reconnaissance flight into Cylon space. The ship was flown by Novacek who was then captured by the Cylons. I also like that this shoots down the silly theories that the Blackbird was the Colonial&#039;s first stealth ship. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:52, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Concur. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:55, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, wait, wait! In the episode, they showed a picture of the bridge crew of the Valkyrie that included Adama and Tigh. If they were simply assigned there for a single mission (and a covert one at that) they&#039;re not going to commemorate the occasion! Secondly, they wouldn&#039;t have assigned Tigh as well. The fewer people that knew about the mission, the better, plus there would be no reason to send another ship&#039;s XO. The Valkyrie is also described as Adama&#039;s last command before Galactica, which means that he was the commander of the ship, not an officer briefly assigned for a single mission. And why do you even have to ask if its a flashback? C&#039;mon, people, its pretty obvious that it was!--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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:Erm, note the date of this discussion. This was speculation before the episode aired. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Class / Type / Dimensions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now, for the time being, does &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; go down as a &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;-type Battlestar (until someone at the &amp;quot;Head Office&amp;quot; finally tells us details like this)? I &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; like how &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and now &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; are all different styles and sizes, but yet are still classified as &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;. This shows a degree of realism, creativity, and dynamicism among our intrepid Powers That Be &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re not going to pull the weak, canned trick of reusing the same model over and over and over again, ad nauseum. Also, &#039;&#039;hopefully&#039;&#039;, it stomps on &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; musings amongst certain overzealous fans of such genres as Star Wars and Star Trek who have this bad habit of immediately speculating and squabbling over if a ship is a battleship, destroyer, frigate, etc. In this case, it would seem that, regardless of size and/or layout, a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar. End of line.&lt;br /&gt;
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On that note, it would appear that &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is infact smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, perhaps with reduced capabilities (weapons and embarked Vipers and Raptors quantities, etc.), less crew. It would also appear that she has less engines in her differently shaped array, which would make sense for a smaller, less massive starship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, and unrelated to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; directly, that stealth recon craft was &#039;&#039;badass&#039;&#039;, wasn&#039;t it? -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 23:49, 17 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not so sure that the Valkyrie is a less capable ship than the Galactica.  From what Tigh said about Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;graceful retirement&#039; it seems that the Valkyrie was actually a pretty prestigious command.  I had always thought that commanding the Galactica was a great honor, but Tigh&#039;s words seem to indicate otherwise.  Ships tend to get smaller as the technology progresses because of the reduced manpower requirement.  Perhaps the smaller size of the Valkyrie is an indication of this.  Theres no real numbers for the dimensions of the Valkyrie or anything to scale it to, but I also got the sense that it was smaller than the Pegasus or Galactica.  --[[User:Antagonist|Antagonist]] 02:16, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I disagree with that.  A smaller ship is going to have less physical space to carry fighter craft and supplies.  If &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, then its gun batteries are smaller, which means they&#039;re firing lighter shells, which translates into less penetration, smaller warheads, less damage. A smaller ship has less volume to absorb damage with, meaning less staying power in a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t still be a prestigious command, though.  If it were a very new ship, even if it weren&#039;t the most powerful, it would still be a plum assignment.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s not always completely true. For example, the modern Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) class destroyer is about 500 feet long. It&#039;s replaced the 560 foot long Spruance and Kidd class destroyers and is also much more powerful than the old Long Beach (721 fl) and other old cruisers. It&#039;s almost as powerful as the other current surface warship, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, built on a Spruance hull. The only reason our modern carriers are so much larger than the old WWII bird farms, is that the planes are much larger now than they were back then. For instance, the lightweight F/A-18E Super Hornet is about 30,000lbs empty and 60 feet long. The old F6F Hellcat is 42 feet long and weighs under 10,000lbs. In conclusion, Valkryie, even smaller, could be much more powerful than the older Galactica. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:09, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But considering the timeframe, they aren&#039;t using radically different weapons and planes. Probably standard Mk VII Vipers or maybe MkVIs or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it&#039;s sort of like the escort carriers of WWII. Not usually meant to operate alone, but to give support to larger carriers, protect ships and support planetary operations. A support ship in Battlestar Groups that have a fullsized battlestar as main ship --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me of a point I forgot, the Mk II and Mk VII are of similar sizes, they can be launched from the same tubes and stored in the same parking spots on the hanger deck. I&#039;m thinking the Valkyrie is like the USS Wasp which was a miniture Yorktown, a small light carrier that can operate with the fleet carriers. The only difference is that the Valkryie would be more advanced than Galactica, instead of old and ineffective like the Wasp. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:38, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I find myself nodding in gleeful agreement to [[User:Talos|Talos]] and [[User:Serenity|Serenity&#039;s]] comments, but I must reply to [[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper&#039;s]] first &amp;amp;mdash; you&#039;re using the &amp;quot;bigger is better&amp;quot; mentality, and this is one of the two issues that burns at the heart of the fight amongst Star Wars fans on the topic of warships (and classification thereof, but I&#039;ll mention that later). Bigger &#039;&#039;is not&#039;&#039; better. Better is better. Different is better. Just because &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller (hypothetically speaking for the sake of example) doesn&#039;t mean she carries smaller weapons. From the recollection scenes alone, we can see that she has weaponry different, and in different locations, than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The elder battlestar lumps her primary &amp;quot;turrets&amp;quot; dorsalside and ventralside, and has her &amp;quot;flak-guns&amp;quot; lining the midline and flight pods. &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, by contrast, had turrets on the pods themselves, akin to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t want to chase specifics, but focus on the point that differences are &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re human; they&#039;re to be expected; they&#039;re in realistic keeping.&lt;br /&gt;
::It could be said that, perhaps, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; was as Talos and Serenity say, a lighter, more purposeful version of a battlestar for an accompaniment or specialized role. Less mass would mean that she&#039;d require less engines in her array, and perhaps have greater velocities/accelerations. She&#039;d require less crew. While still operating the same craft as any other battlestar, she &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have less of them. Who knows? The point is, she&#039;s different, but &#039;&#039;still a battlestar&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
::I bring in two examples from history: the case of the HMS &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; (ca. 1940) and the battleships of the US Navy during WWII. In &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;s&#039;&#039; story, she was, when WWII rolled around, the largest, longest warship in the British Navy, and was 262m long at 48,000 tonnes full load. By contrast, the &#039;&#039;Queen Elizabeth&#039;&#039;-class battleships were 197m at 33,000 tonnes. Both ships carried the same 15-in gun. Then, we throw in another WWII-era battleship, the &#039;&#039;King George V&#039;&#039;-class, which was 227m at 42,000 tonnes &amp;amp;mdash; but sported 14-in guns because the Admiralty, at the time, felt that a more quantitive broadside (10 over 8 or 9) would be more effective than the larger 15-in guns. I&#039;m not going to get into a running argument over details, but bring this up to point out that all three were battleships (&#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; was termed a &#039;&#039;battlecruiser&#039;&#039;, but the point stands), built by the &#039;&#039;same country&#039;&#039; in roughly a short period of time (within approximately 30 years), and all were used under similar circumstances, to varying success and failure. Similarly, the United States had their &amp;quot;holdover&amp;quot; dreadnaught-style battleships at the opening of WWII, but then churned out the &#039;&#039;New Mexico&#039;&#039;-class, the &#039;&#039;South Dakota&#039;&#039;-class, &#039;&#039;North Carolina&#039;&#039;-class, and &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-class. Each was indeed a battleship, but definitely different in terms of size, traits, and capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I may be getting a bit long-winded for such a trivial subject, but I can&#039;t express enough how &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; this great series is from Star Trek and Star Wars. Until proven otherwise, there aren&#039;t any carriers, battleships, cruisers, frigates, destroyers, corvettes, torpedo boats, etc. &amp;amp;mdash; there are &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;, and a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar, albeit in different shapes, forms, and sizes. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:26, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m thinking that it&#039;s just a smaller battlestar, fulfilling a similar role as the Mercuries and such on smaller displacement. Many realword navies are always attempting to do this. For example, before the Burke was finalized, various lightweight versions, sacrificing engines or Aegis, or other equipment, were designed. All of them tried to mimize displacement.The Treaty-era ships from the 1920-30&#039;s aren&#039;t the best examples to use here because they had an artificial limit imposed on them by the Washington and London Naval Treaties. Frequently, improved technology requires lesser manpower. The reason ships keep getting bigger historically is that they keep adding new technology, for instance, the cause of the massive destroyer size increase after WWII is mostly due to the inclusion of Weapon Alfa, guided missiles, and a huge increase in carried electronics. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 12:27, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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CVL-48 Saipan class - 2 ships&lt;br /&gt;
14,500 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CVA-58 United States class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
83,350 tons full, 68,000 tons standard&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-59 Forrestal class - 4 ships&lt;br /&gt;
56,300 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-63 Kitty Hawk class - 3 ships&lt;br /&gt;
60,000 tons, 82,200 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-65 Enterprise class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
approx. 93,500 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-67 John F. Kennedy class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
60728 tons light, 82655 tons full&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-68 Nimitz class - 9 ships&lt;br /&gt;
101,000 to 104,000 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-78 21st Century Aircraft Carrier Project&lt;br /&gt;
100,000 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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If we equate Galactica, an older ship, to the USS United States and the Valkyrie to Forrestal Class and Pegasus to a Nimitz class, then Galactica would be clearly larger than the Valkyrie and Pegasus would clearly be much larger than both.  In the US Navy today, all these carriers have the exact same function, but vary in size by design and time.  However, they are all aircraft carriers.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 17:29, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[[User:Hawke|Hawke]], I don&#039;t understand where you&#039;re coming from.  I never said &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; wasn&#039;t a battlestar.  I said that if it&#039;s smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, then it cannot be as capable.  It cannot carry the same amount of fighters because its flight pods are smaller.  Its guns cannot be as large, and we know thanks to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; that guns like the ones &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; carries are still effective weapons.  It will not be able to absorb as much damage due to its smaller size.  I&#039;m honestly not sure what most of your post has to do with any of that.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think its also worth remembering that Galactica is 60 years old, and one of the first 12 Battlestars. Therefore Valkyrie must be a newer ship, which is suggested by some of its more Pegasusish design nods. Therefore yes it can quite easily be more powerful than Galactica, simply by having more modern technology. Yes Galactica will of been refitted and such and such, but refitting can only get you so far. If Galactica was able to hold its own next to newer ships it wouldn&#039;t of been about to be decommissioned when the series started. The fact is we don&#039;t know when Pegasus and Valkeryie were built, except that both most of been built post-Galactica&#039;s. That&#039;s probably also why Galactica is looked upon so harshly by Tigh. Galactica may of been in the fleet as an old relic. An old rust bucket that should of been decommissioned years ago. --[[User:CTerry|CTerry]] 18:05, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My thought are that we could gage the scale of the Valkyrie to the Galactica and Pegasus by looking at the flightpods. The width of the &amp;quot;mouth&amp;quot; should be the same as they all support and operate the vehicles - Vipers, Raptors and shuttles. Oh and the Shadow Star, can&#039;t forget that new one. The &amp;quot;banner&amp;quot; on the deck of each flightpod could be the same dimensions for landing purposes. As for the guns, I saw the one in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; of the Valkyrie, one behind it on the &amp;quot;body&amp;quot; and three on the flightpod like that of the Pegasus. Most seemed to have only one cannon, while the that&#039;s in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; appeared, in the firing sequence, to have two cannon. Cannon that fired a powered missle. The Galactica and Pegasus appeared, to me, to have the same type of main gun. The placement was not the same though. I&#039;v been also thinking of the Galactica as being like a World War 2 carrier, since it had &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot; but uprated for modern operation. The Pegasus was a product of more modern times and doesn&#039;t appear to have any &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot;. Due to the guns on the Valkyrie, I&#039;d guess that it was perhaps the most modern design. Those main guns could be a newer design then those on Pegasus, unless they are a new &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot;. In the long run, I have to agree that it appears to be smaller and serve a slightly different purpose in the BSG, maybe a battlescruiser type to the battleship type that Galactica and Pegasus play. I can&#039;t but also say that perhaps, these ships could be treated as ships-of-the-line as in the age of sail. Interesting design, pity we&#039;ll never get to see more of it, unless Zoic is kind and releases some orthos of it. Or maybe some book comes out with orthos of all the Colonial ships and craft.&lt;br /&gt;
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::1 x heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the head&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x Heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the main body, above the flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x more alcoves on either side of the main body that may or may not contain heavy gun turrets; There weren&#039;t any shots close enough for me to be certain.&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x heavy gun turret on either side of the dorsal crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x possible heavy gun turrets aft of the dorsal crest.  The image was from too far awawy to be sure, but they look quite similar to the ones astride the crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x heavy gun turrets on the dorsal surface of the flight-pods, one foreward and one aft.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x light gun turrets in alcoves on the side of each flight-pod.  There were only three in-frame in the picture I saw them in, but it also only covered the foreward part of the flight pod, so there could be more.&lt;br /&gt;
:Having no images of the ship&#039;s underside, there&#039;s no way to tell what armament she has there.&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as I could tell, all the heavy gun turrets had two barrels.  The lighter gun turrets are harder to make out, but they appear to be twin-barreled emplacements as well.  They are definately smaller than the heavy turrets, though.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the armaments of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, the heavy turrets on both are indeed extremely similar in appearance.  &#039;&#039;Both&#039;&#039; possess extensive flak suites of lighter, rapid-fire guns. Although I&#039;ve been unable to visually identify any of the emplacements on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, I&#039;ve certainly seen them firing.&lt;br /&gt;
:The way I see it, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is a much smaller design, fitted with commensurately smaller weaponry, meant to support the heavier ships in a BSG like the &#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039;-class.  More of a cruiser to their battleship, than a battlecruiser.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda thought Valkyrie was a smaller battlestar, much like the Independence class light carriers of World War II or the support carriers (CVS) that the WW II era Essex class ships became.  Essentially these ships were designed to undertake missions that didn&#039;t warrant the use of a big carrier. The CVL Independence, for example, was one of the first carriers deployed for night operations. Essex and her sisters were used for antisubmarine and amphibious operations. If Valkyrie were a ship of this type it would make more sense for her to be assigned a black op, since arguably she would be a somewhat less threatening presence than a full sized battlestar, and she would also be more expendable if something went wrong. I propose the term &amp;quot;Light Battlestar&amp;quot; to describe this ship. :)  [[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 20:44, 20 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is an intermediate design somewhere between &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  As far as size goes, I think its comparable in dimensions to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and therefore slightly smaller than &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. If you use the width and length of the flight pods as a scale, then &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is very similar to the other battlestars we&#039;ve seen.  The perception of small size I think is due to the narrower engine pods and propulsion section in the rear.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has the addtional four engines from a refit that make her rear end wider, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had more engines to begin with.  The width of the bow and the overall length of the ship is about the same for all three.  [[User:Maserati1945|Maserati1945]] 02:41, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could just be Pegasus and Galactica where built for long-term combat operations and journeys where as the Valkyrie might not be designed for extended journeys, which is of course much more suitable to a covert operation. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:00, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guns on the Valkyrie seem, to me, to be rail guns similar to those onboard the Galactica and Pegasus. These latter two have a larger &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot; of cannon, but I think this could explain the firing of the missle and other types of ordance. Galactica and Pegasus can fire differing loads similtaniously, as opposed to Valkyrie. Now here&#039;s a question - I&#039;ve noticed in some captures, what looks like the phaser emitters on the Enterprise-A, covering a number of areas of the Valkyrie. Could they be the AA guns?[[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 18:00, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re referring to those hemisphereical blisters on the flight-pod connector spars, and elsewhere?  If so, I think we haven&#039;t got enough information.  I can&#039;t make out anything that might be gunbarrels on any of them, I haven&#039;t got any detailed enough shots of them.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just did a quick measurement comparison to the Galactica and the Valkyrie. I compared the flightpod openings for width and found that the Vlakyrie would be roughly half as long as the Galactica IF the width is the same for all Battlestars, ie. for receiving the same types of craft (eg. Shuttles, Raptors and Vipers). [[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 22:07, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just comparing the flight pods myself.  I haven&#039;t had time to do anything particularly in-depth, but I looked at the landing strips relative to the width of the pods&#039; foreward and aft openings.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; both look like they&#039;ve got another landing-strip&#039;s width to either side of the actual strip, and from what I recall, the strips on both ships are about the same size compared to Vipers.  Assuming the &#039;&#039;strip&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is the same size, then an eyeball estimate looks to me like there&#039;s about half a strip&#039;s width to either side of the landing strip on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, which would make it two thirds the width of the pods on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok my theory is that Valkyrie&#039;s main mission is patrol and if it finds something it sends a signal to a bigger ship and holds the threat off until a more powerful ship comes. Snorkel378&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, maybe I&#039;m missin&#039; something here, but where did you all get the idea that Valkyrie was smaller? We&#039;ve got no real basis for comparison between the ships except the flight pods and the missile. The Missile looked about the same size compared to the Valkyrie as the missiles that Pegasus and Galactica have fired looked compared to them. And the views we have of the flight pods are so vague that there&#039;s nothing we can really assume based on them. I think that Valkyrie is roughly the same size as Pegasus or Galactica, and is most likely a newer model than Galactica, but a slightly older model than Pegasus, as it appears to have similar design features to both ships (it has the same engine setup and CIC as Pegasus, but the bow and flight pod design looks closer to Galactica-type ships).--[[User:Sci-fi Junkee|Sci-fi Junkee]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s mainly the size of the gun turrets compared to the rest of the ship. If not smaller, it would have very large turrets --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:45, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Can we maybe get some pictures, cause that would help clear this whole mess up for me.--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, you can&#039;t measure size from the shots in &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;. Ever hear of a little thing called &amp;quot;perspective&amp;quot;? It can be very, very deceptive, especially when you consider that we don&#039;t really know how wide a viewing angle they used on the camera when rendering, etc. That&#039;s even without accounting for scale errors in CGI production, that happened more then once during the show.&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, I&#039;m not allowed to prove this statement - but I really do know what this ship looks like, how big it is, and how many engines it has. Let&#039;s just say I have access to certain materials that I&#039;m not allowed to show or discuss where I got them.&lt;br /&gt;
But here are some facts: 1) Those 6 tubes below the pods are the only tubes on the ship. 2) Entrances to the tubes and the profile inside them are viper - shaped. They were intended for vipers, in fact. 3) Total ship&#039;s length is just below 700m. That&#039;s right, boys and girls - it&#039;s a pocket battlestar. That&#039;s why it only has 6 launch tubes (no, they were not meant for any never designed &amp;quot;specialist craft&amp;quot;, that was total nonsense). 4) It has 4 engines, not 6. Always had. If you saw the underside on the model, you&#039;d understand. &lt;br /&gt;
Now, like I said, I can&#039;t prove any of this because I&#039;m not allowed to show the material that does prove it. You can choose to trust me or dismiss the above facts as ramblings of a fanboy trying to deceive the lot of you, for what purpose, I don&#039;t know. But do consider this - even at just below 700m in length, the flight pods are still big enough to service vipers. The turrets that were designed for this ship just fit the lower size in style. And finally, not every ship has to be a mile long godship to be cool. Not every class in a navy will be a juggernaut - you need support vessels, escort carriers, patrol ships, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed the image  File:Valkyrie, Scorpion Shipyards.Jpg as when I look at the Valkyrie in the episode &#039;Heros&#039; it is clear that the pics is not of a Va;kyrie typ battlestar, but is in fact a Galactica type (likely uprated) that is seen in dock at Scorpian Shipyards in &#039;Razor&#039; [[User:Einar|Einar]] 1829 (PST), 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number / Designation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Am I seeing this right? From the capture, it looks like &#039;&#039;&#039;BSG 41&#039;&#039;&#039; on the seal. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:47, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In case you still don&#039;t know, as nobody replied, yes its 41. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:59, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Miniseries appearance? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Miniseries Mystery Ship.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery ship? ([[Miniseries]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I was watching the miniseries the other day and early in I could swear that the Valkyrie or a battlestar of the same make shows up. It&#039;s the same shot through the Caprica City doctor&#039;s window that shows the Firefly and Olympic Carrier-type ship. Is it just me or does anyone else see it? [[User:Motherfraker|Motherfraker]] 16:23, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just found a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aUZSKHhRXs clip on youtube] showing Serenity fly past and you can clearly see the mystery ship. Its certainly very large and looks like it may have 6 engines but I dont think its a battlestar. The middle section isnt big enough and the nose section is too pointy. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:01, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve noticed this ship before, and always presumed it was a [[Memoryalpha:Hirogen Warship]](not in BSG canon, obviously) from Star Trek. There are several instances of CG starship models from Star Trek appearing in Firefly as background ships, and as we know Serenity herself is seen in this scene, so it&#039;s possible that this vessel was put in as an &amp;quot;extra&amp;quot; to fill up space on the screen. I don&#039;t see any resemblance to the Valkyrie, but I could believe that this was a Colonial military craft of some sort.&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a picture of the Hirogen ship for reference: www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/hirogen-venatic-cgi.jpg --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 18:57, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MysteryShip.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery Ship ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not the Valkyrie, I think it&#039;s just a background ship because it appeared again at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] during the fleet&#039;s emergency jump as seen in the screenshot provided here. -- [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:54, 22 November 2006 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
:Its a pretty cool looking ship though. It looks quote powerful, definitly fast with 5 engines. We have a page about most of the ships on the wiki, could we garner enough information about this to make a page. Its quite possible it has made appearances in other episodes too and could even have an official name as there are many ships in the &amp;quot;mentioned only&amp;quot; category. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a rough design for a page [[Five-engined vessel|here]]. What do people think? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:53, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks good to me. I was going to point out the incorrect caption but it looks like you caught it.--[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 09:44, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridge. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I meant to say CIC. Must stop watching Star Trek...--[[User:Helo87|Helo87]]&lt;br /&gt;
:To be fair, when taking modern day nomenclature into account, its function is closer to a bridge. That&#039;s where a ship is steered from. The CIC is where all sensor information is collected and evaluated. In BSG they throw that together, but I kinda like that they use a different term for a change. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 00:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surrviving Battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, how do you know ALL the other battlestars were destroyed?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Well, for one, &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; made it clear that the Cylon&#039;s attack was an overwhelming success. Further, RDM&#039;s made some comments in the past to that effect. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did RDM specifically say that there are definately NO other surrviving battlestars?  Is it absolutely certain?  I&#039;m one of those people who still believes theres a possibility that another one may yet be found.[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 13:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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1) the size of the launch tubes if valk is 1200m is somthing I haddent considered before. I hope that I have provided a good posible explination and have writen it in such a way so that it didn&#039;t seem 1 sided. If you plan to rewrite it please do so in a nutral way. The desiners made some mistakes with the valk and these launch tubes were one of them. They were probably just slaped on there to make it look diffrent and the desinger desided that having 3 looked the coolest. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) The turret argument is starting to anoy me. There is no reason that galactica style turrets could not be used on the Valk, regardless of it&#039;s size. They could easly have been scaled to match the ships size. It is clear from hero that Valks turrets work in a diffrent way thus a diffrent desinge. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) could someone please point out these &amp;quot;meny desinge features that surgest a smaller scale&amp;quot;. In my view the evidence sugests a larger ship the visual evidence in razor right down to dialog about it Being a better comand have drawn me to this conclution. &lt;br /&gt;
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4) Altogh I realize that there are only 4 engnies I do wish there 6 and have heard meany people clame that is the case, even with this evidence. I do not think that the posibleity of extra engnies that can&#039;t be seen should be ruled out. There could be some behined the flap. &lt;br /&gt;
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:1) The designers haven&#039;t made any mistakes, it&#039;s just that the ship doesn&#039;t work on the large scale everyone seems to be attributing to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Annoying or not, the turret argument is valid. Galactica&#039;s turrets couldn&#039;t have been used because a) they&#039;re too big,&lt;br /&gt;
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3) Only 6 launch tubes oriented in the same direction as the ship, that would be way too big for even raptors if the ship was over 1000m long. Redesigned turrets that fit smaller ships a lot better - which is exactly why the inhouse team designed them that way.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Extra engines can be ruled out, those really are flaps. What I can show you is a fan made model from sci-fi meshes: not sure where the author got the references to build it, but the model is reasonably accurate. Here&#039;s one pic from that thread, you can just see the flaps behind the engines.&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/16114-battlestar-valkyrie-51.html&lt;br /&gt;
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::1) &amp;quot;The designers haven&#039;t made any mistakes&amp;quot; I believe they have: 4 engines, this doesn&#039;t make any scene, this would make the ship &#039;top heavy&#039;. to propel the ship forward the trust needs to be along the center of mass, otherwise the ship would start spinning. This mistake has been made many times in BSG, most notisably with cloud 9. Almost ironicly 6 engines would fix this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
The flight pods (if the ship is at the small scale of 700m). They would be a weakness not an tactical advantage. With such a small fighter wing they become impractical. having one flight deck on the underside (like the ship beside beside Pegasus in razor) would make far more sense. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) You just used a real world explanation to support a in universe argument! a) &amp;quot;they&#039;re too big&amp;quot;, thats why you resize them. b) &amp;quot;they don&#039;t fit the style&amp;quot;, the ones on the Mercury class would and they are &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; similar. c) &amp;quot;when scaled down they look very weird&amp;quot;, have a look at this : [http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Shipyard/Drawings/OtherGenres/Galactica/ES_Anala.png] this ship has Galacticas turrets on a smaller scale and they look fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) &amp;quot;Only 6 launch tubes oriented in the same direction as the ship, that would be way too big for even raptors if the ship was over 1000m long.&amp;quot; Thus the comment about lager spetialised ships. Also the triangle shape would be more structialy sound than ones shaped for raptors and at that size would fit&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that one larger pod would make more sense then two smaller ones. However you have to keep in mind that this is sci-fi, and sometimes (often, really) things aren&#039;t done so they&#039;re 100% realistic, they&#039;re done so they look good. Same argument goes for the engines number.&lt;br /&gt;
Bottom line - I wasn&#039;t saying what was more realistic, which I always find to be a completely pointless debate when discussing sci fi ships made of non existent materials, using non existent technologies (and designed by people who aren&#039;t aerospace engineers). Therefore I won&#039;t even comment the center of mass argument. &lt;br /&gt;
What I am saying is what the ship DOES really look like in the show, having had the opportunity to actually see it in far more detail then what was shown in razor or &amp;quot;Hero&amp;quot;. And the Valkyrie there has 4 engines, is really small compared to Galactica, and has 6 forward facing launch tubes below the flight pods which are a lot smaller then Galactica&#039;s (since the entire ship is about as long as one single Galactica&#039;s pod).&lt;br /&gt;
They&#039;ve also redesigned those turrets, not just to fit the different scale, but to fit the different style of the ship. Those old howitzer style BSG turrets were meant to look old, that&#039;s why they&#039;re on a ship that&#039;s a 1st war relic. Valkyrie, being much smaller and newer, clearly called for a new turret type to be designed.&lt;br /&gt;
Finally, I&#039;m not sure what does that pic of the &amp;quot;escortstar&amp;quot; prove (I have to laugh at the name though - seriously, the &amp;quot;Anala&amp;quot;? Yeah the ship is ugly but to name it like that is just cruel), but I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s not pertinent to this discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
First of all, it&#039;s non canon, so it doesn&#039;t prove a thing. Secondly, it doesn&#039;t look very modern (not like the Pegasus clearly looks like a more modern battlestar then the Galactica). Thirdly, it&#039;s a 2d drawing, not a 3d model, and it&#039;s a lot harder to gauge how well the turrets fit it that way. And finally, it&#039;s hideous. If that&#039;s a &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; ship and the Valkyrie is full of &amp;quot;design mistakes&amp;quot;, I&#039;ll take the Valkyrie any day of the week and be happy with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never said that that was a good ship(personally I hate it. btw it is meant to be from near the end of the cylon war).  it just proved that that type of gun can be scaled down. I never said that it don&#039;t believe you, in fact i&#039;d say you have swayed me. However evidence given in the show does support the larger size (which i prefare). The large size shown in razor will have been a cgi blunder (like the oversized galactica type which could be explained as being a ship of this class: [http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Shipyard/Drawings/OtherGenres/Galactica/Atlantia.png](it&#039;s meant to be a command version of the Galactica type) and in my own personal Battlestar world they would be a type of large Valkyrie types using advanced technology intended to compeat with the mercury class (built by a different company). When you come down to it  the valk is still possibly the coolest design in the show.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, I think we can finally agree no most of your points - I agree on everything except preferring the Valk bigger, I kinda think the smaller size makes it unique, different, special even. However I do agree it&#039;s one of the coolest designs there, and I&#039;m very sorry they didn&#039;t find a way to use it more. Also, the apparently bigger scale in razor may just be a CGI blunder, it happened more then once during the course of the show. For me, she&#039;ll remain a pocket battlestar. Others can assume it&#039;s bigger and be happy with that - at least until (and if) they release official info on this ship. Since the show is over, it would be cool if they&#039;d release a book containing all the less seen stuff in the show, this time rendered clearly an with official descriptions. Might even turn a few bucks on it - I know I&#039;d buy it.&lt;br /&gt;
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the Valks type is back! &lt;br /&gt;
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== Medical Capabilites of a Battlestar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your assertion of &amp;quot;unfound speculation&amp;quot; concerning my contribution is uninformed and unfounded.  I am a military medical planner and a published author.  My assertion of the potential medical capabilities and requirements of an intergalactic warship (modeled on a US aircraft carrier), while hypothetical, is informed.  Keep in mind these are requirements that the ship would have originally been built (not the &amp;quot;as is&amp;quot; state).  At this point in the story line, clearly Major Cottle is the only doctor on Galactica, however we have never seen the Pegasus medical bay or any of its medical personnel.  With established industrial facilities on Pegasus (Viper production established in “Scar”), the Pegasus would have evn greater Occupational Health / Preventive Medicine than Galactica.   And if you do a walk down of the ancillary services (pharmacy (camala extract), orthopedic and x-ray (Kara’s knee injury), optometry (ADM Adama’s glasses), etc, you will see they exist even if they are not portrayed.  Additionally, it was an Intensive Care Unit (ICU) bed, complete with ventilator, which William Adama was in during his multiple surgeries (establishing an Operation Room (OR)).&lt;br /&gt;
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Capital ships are designed to go into battle, which means they will take damage and casualties.  Often it is the ability to regenerate / repair / refit in the quickest amount of time that determines the outcome of battles.  General Nathan Bedford Forrest of the Confederate States of America is famous for the quote, “He who gets there the fastest with the mostest wins.” RDM makes reference to his experience onboard a Navy ship in podcasts, including “The Captain’s Hand”.  Thus, there is an established framework present.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I provide you two active hyperlinks that back up my contribution.  While dated, they are still relevant.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.mfp.usmc.mil/TeamApp/G4/Topics/20040916154046/Med%20Cont%20Factbook.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
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www.iiimef.usmc.mil/medical/ FMF/FMFE/FMFEref/fs_man/CHAPTER%2014.html&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Killerman|Killerman]] 20:26, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have no doubt that you are well qualified to speak about the medical capabilities of an aircraft carrier. I dispute their relevance to BSG, however. while they might provide a good baseline for guesswork, I don&#039;t think that simple guesswork belongs on this site. We don&#039;t extrapolate armament details based on the capabilities of modern naval vessels, for example. If you wanted, I wouldn&#039;t object to something along the lines of &amp;quot;we may conjecture that the medical facilities of a colonial battlestar are roughly comparable to those of a modern aircraft carrier&amp;quot; with one of the links you provided above; but I will not agree to listing out detailed specifications based on no in-continuity data. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:37, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;At last I went to the artisans.  I was conscious that I knew nothing at all, as I may say, and I was sure that they knew many fine things; and here I was not mistaken, for they did know many things of which I was ignorant, and in this they certainly were wiser than I was.  But I observed that even the good artisans fell into error;--because they were good workmen they thought that they also knew all sorts of high matters, and this defect in them overshadowed their wisdom;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;The Apology of Socrates&#039;&#039;, Plato&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sir, none of us doubt that you know what you are talking about when you list the medical capabilities of a modern aicraft carrier.  But this does not grant you increased insight into the inner logic of the tv series:  First, we have no idea how many medical staff are onboard, and comparing it to an aircraft carrier is just speculation.  Second, we have no idea how many crewmen a Mercury class battlestar normally has, as has been asked in the &amp;quot;Questions&amp;quot; segment of the &amp;quot;[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]&amp;quot; episode guide article: Pegasus has 1,750 crewmen when it encounters Galactica, but A) It was going into drydock, and some of the crew may have left to the port, B) 700 crewmen died in the initial attack C) Cain impressed civillians she encounteed into service and most importantly C) Cain was fighting a hit and run war against the Cylons for months, which wore down her crew numbers through attrition.  But I digress.  Yes, we should object to a statement like &amp;quot;we may conjecture that medical facilities of a colonial battlestar are roughly comparable to those of a modern aircraft carrier&amp;quot;.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:41, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I guess you can object to that too, if you want. I was trying to compromise. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:48, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m sorry Peter but this is a really good example of the speculation I don&#039;t think we should be inserting into this kind of article.  There is nothing to be gained from such a compromise.  I would if there were, and would like to, but I can&#039;t change facts.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:51, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As I am preparing to deploy for a year, please forgive me as I have packed all my BSG video.  I grant you that the personnel numbers for a fully manned battlestar are informed speculation based upon a comparison to a modern aircraft carrier.  I use these numbers as RDM has referenced a battlestar to a modern carrier, his experience in the Navy (podcast for The Captain’s Hand), Galactica type battlestar – article – dimensions’ jpg comparing a Battlestar to a CVN Image:Bsg-2-cvn.jpg on this very page.  My professional training drives me to fill in unknowns with assumptions.  That is what the personnel piece was intended and is consistent with other speculation within the Wiki, so long as it is said to be speculation (i.e. the actual working of an FTL drive).  But sticking to the medical capabilities known from “in country (your term)” knowledge (i.e. seen on screen or in dialogue), we know much about Galactica.  First, Galactica has a sickbay (Act of Contrition, Litmus).   Exact bed count is not known, but is greater than seven (Act of Contrition). Based upon the burn victims (Act of Contrition) and treatment of William Adama (Scattered, Valley of Darkness, Fragged), we have seen Intensive Care Unit (ICU) beds, complete with ventilators, electrocardiograms (ECG), pulse / respiration / pulseox (shows percent of oxygen saturation dissolved in blood) monitors.  We also have seen at least on operation room (OR) (Fragged), and subsequently confirm its existence with Kara Thrace’s knee surgery (Litmus) and Lee Adama’s chest surgery (Sacrifice).  Concerning the radiology suite, we saw a Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI – incidentally, a very advanced piece of equipment) when Baltar had Dr. Cottle examine his head looking for an implanted chip (sorry, don’t remember the episode).  We also saw conventional (chest) x-rays of Commander William Adama, during his surgery (Fragged, Scattered).  We heard about Sharon’s ultrasound, as part of pre-natal health on Hera, where Dr. Cottle found an abnormality. And while not part of radiology, Hera, is placed in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) incubator, when is born prematurely.  Next, we know it has a pharmacy.  The President asked Dr. Cottle for Camala, the Viper pilots were taking “stims” (33, Final Cut) and Kara is taking pain killers for her knee surgery (Litmus) and latter asks Lee for antibiotics for Anders (Lay Down Your Burdens – Part II).  Additionally, with the surgeries and burn victims, there are other pharmacological needs and a pharmacy is where these things dwell.  Other areas that we have seen or know about are a morgue, where Galactica-Boomer was stored; a laboratory (to do support simple blood type and matching to support surgery), optometry with a fabrication lab (William Adama wears glasses and as stated in other areas of this site, battlestars are designed for sustained operations).  We are also can infer that Galactica has some preventive medicine / occupational health capability because in “Water”, there was a discussion about water recycling (leading to potable water).  It is Preventive Medicine that does this task.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to add that RDM and SciFi do a heck of a job weaving into the background all these things.  As an experienced health services officer with over 22 years in the health care field, there is a tremendous amount of detail that happens in the background.  If I was a casual observer, I might miss or not care about some of these things.  As someone headed into harms way, I assure you that our fighting forces moral is impacted  combat health support.  I absolutely belive we need to address the medical capabilities of a battle star.  The propose the best way is start with what it would look like at full strenght / desired capability.  Clearly, Season 3 will start with two grossly undermanned battlestars, with very limited offensive combat capability.--[[User:Killerman|Killerman]] 22:10, 16 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The citations you&#039;ve provided make it much easier to include this information, and I thank you for taking the time to write this all out. The addition should improve the article considerably. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:21, 16 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am sorry, but this doesn&#039;t change much:  the above information was gleaned from things we&#039;ve seen on screen, and is thus informative and useful.  However, the original entry to this article he made (speculative medical numbers, etc.)...isn&#039;t supported by any of these citations.  Basically, they&#039;re two separate issues and should be treated separately.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:48, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Reverting to Killerman&#039;s last version isn&#039;t a good idea, but he (or we) can refactor his contribution using the points and evidence he raised above. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:57, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh yes yes, something new and revised.  Yes.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:24, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Manufacture vs. Assembly of Ammunition ==&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;assembly&amp;quot; activities that take place in [[Epiphanies]] would fall into the realm of &amp;quot;production&amp;quot;, depending on how you look at it. It seemed like they were loading the casings (I thought RDM said they were going to use caseless ammo) with powder, seating the primer and inserting the bullet, turning the various components into a cartridge. Whether or not they produced the individual components (metal for bullets and casings would be easy, compounds for primers and powder probably harder to obtain), the act of putting those bits together would often be considered &amp;quot;manufacturing&amp;quot; ammunition. Not a big deal, and I didn&#039;t even change the text (since it&#039;s pretty debatable). An example of this use of the word is in this [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4044-2004Jul21_2.html Washington Post Article]:&lt;br /&gt;
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Once again, not trying to start a war, just wanted to weigh in on a subject I knew a little about (since they so rarely come up). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:02, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Picture of destroyed Galactica-type Battlestar ==&lt;br /&gt;
Though certainly a model of a Galactica-type was used for the shot, it&#039;s clearly mentioned at the very beginning of the miniseries that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the only ship of it&#039;s kind still in service. The story places the shot only hours after the beginning of the attack, so it should be impossible that another Galactica-type (museum or mothballed in a reserve-fleet) could be readied for battle. Shouldn&#039;t the destroyed battlestar be taken as one of a third class between the Galactica-Type and Mercury-class, still looking a lot like the Galactica-type? [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 13:39, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That was my impulse. Story logic dictates that the destroyed hulk probably wasn&#039;t a Galactica type, but in the real world we can surmise that Zoic probably re-used the Galactica model. Of course, from that distance, we could fudge our interpretation either way. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:50, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They don&#039;t necessarily mean that there are no Galactica type battlestars in service besides the Big-G, it could be taken to mean none like Galactica, eg. non-refitted, no networks, etc. The battlestar there could easily (and belivably) be a refitted Galactica type. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:22, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I concur with Talos, and that has been my understanding. Besides, unless the ship was simply overwhelmed by Cylon military brawn, an old-Cylon War battlestar would put up the same level of fight as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; would have. Else, it was just as vulnerable as the new battlestars. I agree, cinematically, that that Galactica model was just reused.--[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:59, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://www.skyone.co.uk/programme/pgefeature.aspx?pid=3&amp;amp;fid=642 Something to ask] the big man himself? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 14:34, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;ll do that in a little bit, I have to pick up my brother from his band practice in a minute. The life of a college student living at home... --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:36, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I really doubt he&#039;s going to take the time to clarify such a niggling detail. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:39, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It has always been my belief that Doral meant it was the only Galactica-type battlestar never refited.  I always point to the &#039;&#039;U.S.S. Missouri&#039;&#039; (Mighty &#039;Mo) as an example of a ship with over 50 years of combat service that just kept getting refitted over time to the point that it was firing satellite-targeted cruise missiles at the end of its service.  I think Galactica was just the only one that was never refitted.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:57, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:My point exactly. It&#039;s like the WWII era Essex class carriers. There were refits that were completly rebuilt but a few, essentially, originals survived until the early 1960s with the others serving thru Vietnam ([[Wikipedia:USS Oriskany (CVA-34)|USS Oriskany (CVA-34)]] for example). The [[Wikipedia:USS Lexington (CV-16)|USS Lexington (CV-16)]] was in service as a training ship until 1991! --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:26, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It&#039;s exactly the &#039;&#039;USS Missouri&#039;&#039;-example why I believe that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the last of it&#039;s class: All four &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-Class battleships were updated and they all were finally decommissoned (for now) between 1990 and 1992. If the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is simply the only one not refitted one would have to ask why that wasn&#039;t done. Why would one refit three &#039;&#039;Iowas&#039;&#039; but not the last one? This usually only happens if a ship is somehow different from her sisters (e.g. having sustained heavy battledamage the refit is more expensive and not worth the effort). Also it could be that the fleet is being downsized, no longer needing all ships. An example for this would be the British [[Wikipedia:Illustrious class aircraft carrier|&#039;&#039;Illustrious&#039;&#039;-Class]] of World War II. Of these three carriers only one received an angled flight-deck, surviving the scrapping of the other two for twenty years. But in all these cases I find it hard to believe that anyone would describe one of the ships decommissioned first as &#039;&#039;the last of it&#039;s kind still in service&#039;&#039; if there others (refitted or not) still in action. Which &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039; would have been described that way prior to it&#039;s decommissioning: &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039; in 1990 or &#039;&#039;Missouri&#039;&#039; in 1992? Wasn&#039;t &#039;&#039;Lexington&#039;&#039; the last &#039;&#039;Essex&#039;&#039;?&lt;br /&gt;
::What Doral says before and after that statement makes it quite clear that he&#039;s not talking about a certain detail (like &#039;&#039;last of it&#039;s kind without a network&#039;&#039; would have been). He starts with &#039;&#039;worldfamous Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039;, then &#039;&#039;last of her kind still in service&#039;&#039; followed by &#039;&#039;constructed 50 years ago as one of the first twelve battlestars, representing Caprica&#039;&#039;. The only possible explanation for other Galactica-types this leaves would be &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; being the last of the first twelve, with other Galactica-types coming from a second batch no longer representing specific colonys. But even then &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot; is an usual choice of words to describe that. [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 17:13, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well said. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:04, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it is still ambiguous, and we should wait for an RDM blog reply before changing anything.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:54, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I doubt RDM will respond to this issue, and I think the safest course of action would just be to remove it. There&#039;s sufficient reason to doubt that the hulk isn&#039;t a galactica-type that we shouldn&#039;t take a firm position on the issue. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:22, 25 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The motivation for no refit to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; could be nostaliga or historical preservation, explaining the odd wording; for such a purpose, only the unaltered version would count. ...Don&#039;t get the impression I believe that just because I said it. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 20:56, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Not to mention Adama, &amp;quot;It&#039;s a computer network and I&#039;ll be damned if I&#039;ll let it aboard my ship while I&#039;m in command.&amp;quot; (Paraphrased)--[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:01, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We don&#039;t even know for sure if the destroyed battlestar was even in service. It could have been decommissioned earlier and be acting like a museum, just like Galactica was supposed to be. That would also explain its quick destruction. (It snapped cleanly in half). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 09:01, 13 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It could easily be in service still. In the Russian (and former Soviet) navy, there is a class of destroyers called the [[w:Udaloy class destroyer|Udaloy]]. The last of the class was heavily refitted and updated, bringing it up almost to Burke class levels. The important thing here is that there are still unrefitted ones in service (there was only enough money to upgrade one, the Admiral Chabenko). Then again, there is the Fletcher/Sumner class destroyers. The main differences were the gun armament (5x1 5&amp;quot; in Fletcher, 3x2 5&amp;quot; in Sumner), and the Sumner&#039;s twin rudders. Same hull and most of the superstructure. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:13, 13 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
Also possible that the Galactica was origionally heavily armored like the Columbia but retrofitted. Then the other 1st war ships of its type were eventually decomissioned, whilst other Galactica Type Battlestars were made after the war without the extra armor (and other things we don&#039;t know about) to the new upgraded design of the Galactica type, therefore a different kind of ship. [[User:VARGR|VARGR]] 20:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Crew numbers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How do we know a fully manned and equipped battlestar has a crew of 4,000 to 5,000? Was it said in some episode or where do these numbers come from? I&#039;m updating the [[de:Kampfstern, Galactica-Typ|german battlestar article]] and I don&#039;t like to use data that seems to be made up out of thin air. The links and notes provided don&#039;t give any hint about the normal crew number of a battlestar of this type. We apologise for any inconvenience. -- [[User:Astfgl|Astfgl]] 16:03, 25 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In the Miniseries, Tyrol says that there are over 2,000 people on Galactica. The ships seems very undermanned at the same time so I would think that 4-5,000 is a good estimate. I&#039;m not sure if we&#039;ve seen any concrete numbers though, maybe in the magazine. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:52, 25 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Answer:  in &amp;quot;Water&amp;quot; Baltar says how many civilians there are in the Fleet, and subtracting that from the total survivor population in that episode yielded the crew aboard Galactica as of &amp;quot;Water&amp;quot;, at some number over 2,600 (I&#039;d have to check).  In several podcasts, Ron Moore keeps saying that while not on a skeleton crew, Galactica has about half the number of people on it that a fully crewed battlestar of its class would have.  So, &amp;quot;between 4,000 and 5,000&amp;quot;. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks for the clarification, I&#039;ll take these numbers then. -- [[User:Astfgl|Astfgl]] 07:37, 26 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Flight tube counts ==&lt;br /&gt;
I see (in [[:Image:Bsg-2-cvn.jpg]], e.g.) 20 slots that seem like they might each be divided in half along the side of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. I can see why it is likely they are launch tubes, but I can also see many other similarly sized openings around them. Although it&#039;s a fine guess and quite likely to be true, I&#039;m left hestitant that this evidence is sufficiently strong to be canon. In any case, if consensus is that this is canon, we should certainly footnote it, as the truth of the statement is not patently clear. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:10, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the Cylon forces repeatedly use missiles as an effective delivery platform for their nuclear weapons, isn&#039;t ir relativel safe to assume- since, of course, the Cylons were created by the Colonials- that the method deployed by Colonial forces is also missile-based? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 09:22, 12 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a good idea, and I personally agree with it, but there is no aired proof, and thusly we cannot confirm how they do it. The two Galactica nukes we&#039;ve seen thus far (Baltar&#039;s and the one Boomer uses to destroy the Basestar in Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming Part II) have been removed from their delivery systems. (Although Boomer&#039;s did look like it was in a bomb casing). --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:31, 12 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fair point. Perhaps we&#039;ll get clarificaion in Season3, since Galactica herself still has three nuclear weapons aboard. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 10:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, we know now, good call on it being revealed in season 3, Although they haven&#039;t been used yet, I&#039;m willing to bet they will be used in season 4 and we are going to have to update the articles again.--[[User:Tomglima|Tomglima]] 20:09, 23 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Galactica-Class? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please bear with me for a moment as I am citing a magazine many of you may consider illegitimate.  In the September 2006 issue of Maxim Magazine, the &amp;quot;Fashion&amp;quot; section of Maxim Style features a photoshoot of the RDM Battlestar Galactica cast modeling various fashions.  In one photograph, featuring James Callis and Tricia Helfer in a small corner alcove of the CIC (possibly weapons control or some other station), a center console features the text &amp;quot;GALACTICA-CLASS BATTLESTAR&amp;quot; in two places, easily readable to the viewer.  I know it is general policy on television shows that whatever is aired in a given episode is canon, and what is not aired, non-canon.  However, would this (i.e., &amp;quot;Galactica-class Battlestar&amp;quot;) be considered canon since this console is occasionally seen in a given episode?  Or am I just reading too much into a simple photoshoot? --[[User:Jonfucius|Jonfucius]] 09:30, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have a photograph of this? or a timestamp where we can check the DVD&#039;s? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:55, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I assume he means [http://bsg-cz.net/news/files/images/season_3/maxim_5.jpg this] but on that pic I can&#039;t really see it on the prinouts on the table. It does indeed look like the weapon&#039;s control room, though I can&#039;t recall the table there. The room can be seen very rarely. In the miniseries for example --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can barely make it out. Though it isn&#039;t canon, unless we saw it on the show itself, or if someone from the show were to tell us that &amp;quot;yes, indeed, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is a &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;-class battlestar&amp;quot;. Then it&#039;s canon. However, by all means, we can certainly put something in the notes section regarding this. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:17, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That&#039;s definitely the weapons control section of CIC. If we can get a clearer shot, that will remove all doubt; it does look like &amp;quot;Galactica class&amp;quot; to me. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:57, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Something for [[BW:OC]]? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:14, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If I had access to a scanner I would provide a high-res image to examine; unfortunately, I am a relatively-poor college student (and how many aren&#039;t these days?) and the only scanner access I have is a public-use scanner in our bookstore.  However, the image Mercifull provided is the one I indicated in my first post.  In my copy of the issue, the text clearly reads &amp;quot;Galactica-class Battlestar&amp;quot;.  I know this is a minor detail among many in a show so richly layered by the writers and producers, but I wanted to make sure the Battlestar Wiki was as accurate as possible; I use the Wiki to enhance my experience of this incredible drama.  Thank you all for your timely responses to my question. --[[User:Jonfucius|Jonfucius]] 11:39, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I hate to dredge up an old topic, but here&#039;s some food for thought that might support the theory that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the class name. Now, we&#039;re told that Galactica herself represented Caprica, the de facto capital of the colonies. Surely it stands to reason that the first battlestar built would be the one to represent the primary colony- Galactica. I know this is fanwanking, but I just thought of it and figured I&#039;d voice my idea. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 12:26, 5 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actual class name? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can purely speculate that the actual name of the original battlestar class (of which &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; is a member) is &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;, in honor of the wife of assassinated President [[Wikipedia:John F. Kennedy|John F. Kennedy]], [[Wikipedia:Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis|Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis]]. So, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is considered as an &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;-class battlestar. The prototype of its class, battlestar &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039; is destroyed in the renewed [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] conflict. --[[User:Starkiller|Starkiller]] 21:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::LMAO at this troll.--[[User:Tomglima|Tomglima]] 20:11, 23 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And there&#039;s &#039;&#039;nothing&#039;&#039; to back this up with? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 02:06, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And how would Colonials know of the Kennedys? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:29, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because they got information from Earth about these Kennedys before the Cylon Holocaust. Years before the [[Cylon War]], the battlestar prototype, &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;, is constructed, then &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; itself. Therefore, we presume this original battlestar class (of which &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; is a member) is &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;. --[[User:Starkiller|Starkiller]] 04:20, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; confused. There would have to be some serious cite for that change. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:10, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Starkiller is being absurd to prove a point, but, like others, I&#039;m missing it. As per our convention, pure speculation is disallowed here without official sources to back it up. Since the picture of two BSG actors on an official set using props that match others with information cited as official and used here for articles (navigation charts) which indicates that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the first of her class, we should continue on this thread. Otherwise, Starkiller&#039;s comment is patent nonsense given that BSG is deliberately set so we don&#039;t know if the events occur in real-world Earth&#039;s past, present, or future. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:13, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve heard on several occasions that Galactica may be an &amp;quot;Atlantia-class&amp;quot; battlestar, but have found nothing to support this online. I&#039;ve also heard that the original Galactica was a &amp;quot;Columbia-class&amp;quot;. Is this true? If so, is it possible that the re-imagined Galactica is also a Columbia-class? I think this should head on over to [[BW:OC]]. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:46, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;Columbia-class&amp;quot; is common fan fiction. &amp;quot;Atlantia&amp;quot; class would make little sense: why would the fleet admiral use a old battlestar as his flagship? His ship would be Mercury class or something better (and more advanced--it was destroyed like the other [[CNP]] ships). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:34, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Then why does Adama choose Galactica as his flaghsip, and not Pegasus? There&#039;s nothing said on-screen to suggest that the Galactica-type battlestars were NOT re-fitted with computer networks. I&#039;m just playing devil&#039;s advocate here. Besides, the Atlantia mentioned in the mini could easily have been Mercury-class, and the original may have been retired like the Big G was. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 06:54, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Commanders don&#039;t have to choose the best and biggest ship as their flagship as long as they can do their duty from another one. Don&#039;t know who but some guy in WWII chose a destroyer or maybe a battleship as his command post and not an aircraft carrier. As long as there are options, there is some personal choice involved.&lt;br /&gt;
::::And you&#039;re right about networks. The Mini gives the distinct impression that it was only Adama&#039;s doing that the Galactica &lt;br /&gt;
::::wasn&#039;t more automated -[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:08, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yeah, Admiral Raymond Spruance chose the cruiser USS Indianapolis as his flagship when he had multiple carriers at his disposal. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:11, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As shown in events during the second half of season 2, Adama doesn&#039;t likely trust &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew. To quote Adama: &amp;quot;I tend to go with what you know, until something better comes along.&amp;quot; So the decision is logical; he trusts &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her crew, thus he plants his flag there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:52, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::An corollary to Joe&#039;s comments: It is very likely that there is a long-standing (but fading) tradition to keep &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from being refitted, just as our USS Constitution was never refitted as a steamer, in keeping with her (supposed) significancy in Colonial war history. Besides, to &#039;&#039;revert&#039;&#039; any ship from new to old technology is just weird and very unlikely. There may have been fewer commanders willing to assume command of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; in this tradition, but Adama, a man who knew all too well of the problems of technology (and had served on her in the last part of the war), chose &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; willingly, I figure. This is reinforced with the arrival of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. He could&#039;ve moved his new admiral flag there, but he hasn&#039;t. He prefers to go with what he knows until something better shows up. The old battlestar &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in Adama&#039;s mind, is still best. &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; survived more on luck than inherent design. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:30, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Role==&lt;br /&gt;
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As with the Mercury-class article, I&#039;ve amended the class role to [[Wikipedia:Battlecarrier|battlecarrier]]. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 15:37, 27 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Madbrood, I can appreciate the use, but based on your link, I disagree. The term &amp;quot;battlestar&amp;quot; is a true carrier AND battleship in one, where the &amp;quot;battlecarrier&amp;quot; of our Earth is a rough amalgam that doesn&#039;t come close in size, fighter capacity, or firepower. Further, I wonder if we want to use complext Earth naval terms instead of what is given in the show to describe the ships using simple naval language. &amp;quot;Carrier/battleship&amp;quot; is less &amp;quot;smooth&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;battlecruiser&amp;quot;, but is is also more accurate. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:44, 27 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree. Battlecruiser is a nice term, but it really doesn&#039;t fit Galactica. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:35, 28 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fair enough. I just figured it sounded a bit more &amp;quot;military&amp;quot;. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 09:47, 28 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I know. I&#039;d love to put up &amp;quot;big, frakkin&#039; warship/carrier with guns, lots of guns,&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;warship/carrier&amp;quot; may have to do. Keeping it simple. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:33, 28 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Battlestar Redirect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestar (RDM) currently redirects here. The only reason this concerned me was I was actually linking to a more generic use of the word (&amp;quot;Adama had been on an another battlestar before &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;). Back when &amp;quot;big G&amp;quot; was the only one we knew of, it defintely made sense. Now that we have &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Mercury class&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type&amp;quot; I was wondering if maybe we needed a more generic article to sit at battlestar (RDM) describing the aircraft carrier/battleship capital ship concept in more general terms, with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; being specific examples. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:45, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:That sounds good to me, a general article explaing what battlestars are, listing known ones, mentioning BSGs, missions, etc. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:30, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Rather than that, why not redirect to the central [[Battlestar]] disambiguation? It already has listed all battlestars by show and type, and avoids extra work. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:26, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039;&#039; is exactly what I wanted to link to. I just automatically tagged an RDM on the end of it. I&#039;ll go change that link, but I agree that we should just change Battlestar (RDM) to point to Battlestar (work smarter not harder). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 20:57, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Hah, I&#039;d forgotten about that page. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:23, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:40, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Life Support ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How exactly do Galactica&#039;s life support systems work? I know their recirculation units replenish oxygen and remove carbon dioxide, but does this oxygen come from tanks or is it recycled from somewhere? The ISS uses electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, so is is possible that Galactica-type ships do something similar to this?--[[User:Rapturous|Rapturous]] 13:52, 10 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Other than the scrubbers, it&#039;s really never been explained. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &amp;amp;mdash; &#039;&#039;New&#039;&#039;]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:03, 10 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Theoretically, they could have a big room full of plants somewhere in the ship. Plants &#039;breathe in&#039; carbon dioxide and &#039;breathe out&#039; oxygen, the opposite of what we do. However, you would need some kind of imitation sun then, because the chemical reaction I just described can only occur in sunlight. Other (artifical) means of converting CO&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; back to oxygen could also be used (scrubbers?), but like the plants they will also require energy to work. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:57, 11 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Have you ever seen the film [[w:Sunshine (2007 film)|Sunshine]] Catrope?&lt;br /&gt;
:::http://www.sunshinedna.com/wp-images/2005/09/2109_06a.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
:::They used an oxygen garden in that to produce the breathable air :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:37, 11 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yep, I have. Spoilers for Sunshine follow: {{spoilli|In the scene where the &#039;&#039;Icarus II&#039;&#039; crew boards &#039;&#039;Icarus I&#039;&#039;, you can see that her garden is still alive, because of the CO&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; O&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; equilibrium between the plants and Captain Pinbacker who has lived there for seven years (having killed the rest of his crew).}} --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:58, 11 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Perhaps tanks containing algae, submitted to given ranges of EM radiations? The idea of a garden is nice, but doesn&#039;t fit in the show, since no one ever walked in Galactica&#039;s garden. ;) That&#039;s why they needed Cloud 9. --[[User:Mister Oragahn|Mister Oragahn]] 01:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica class pic to rear its head again ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I ran across [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg this picture], which shows the &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot; sheet again. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &amp;amp;mdash; &#039;&#039;New&#039;&#039;]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:21, 25 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Shall we [[BW:OC|ask Brad]] whether this is official or just something the props department made up? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:21, 26 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe put it on a more prominent place in the article, but explain that such props aren&#039;t necessarily official or reliable. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 26 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Main Battery Numbers ==&lt;br /&gt;
I have noticed that there is some confusion on the number of these guns. In examining the the picture of the ventral side, I have noticed 12 guns. 8 are marked, while 4 (two starboard and two port) are partially concealed by the bottom of the bow. They are roughly between the forward four guns and the first four midships guns. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 19:51, 13 January 2008 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There are twelve marked (8+4). With another 4, that would make the original number of 24 correct (16 ventral  + 8 dorsal). That&#039;s why being so pedantic about trivial stuff like ship armament is kinda annoying. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 02:27, 14 January 2008 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why the flight pods must be retracted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When Galactica made the jump that broke her spine, her flight pods were still out. It would seem that jumping with the pods extended on this class of ship causes undue structural strain. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 02:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: This was never the real reason for the strain. Having the flight pods extended doesn&#039;t cause strain... the jump itself caused strain, particularly after the stress from ramming the Colony and from the previous wear and tear Galactica experienced over the four years. Starting from the nuke impacting on Galactica in the Mini, the stress of continually jumping away from the Colonies, the &amp;quot;Adama Maneuver&amp;quot; at New Caprica, the various engagements with the Cylons throughout the series, going through the star cluster, etc., etc. Tigh said way back in Season Three that it would take weeks of Galactica in drydock just to knock out the dents... and he wasn&#039;t joking. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I know that. But jumping with the flight pods out (which has been thoroughly established to be a bad course of action for Galactica&#039;s class of battlestar) probably didn&#039;t help.&lt;br /&gt;
:::There are just too many circumstances that factored into &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; breaking her back to make a clear argument for and against the flight pods being *the* main cause. Yes, in all the previous instances it has been said that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; couldn&#039;t (or couldn&#039;t afford) to jump with them extended.  But Adama knew that this was her last mission, and just like Cain, coordinates or flight pods be damned, just jump or they&#039;re doomed just the same. BTW, the Raptors jumping inside the flight pod distrupted the structure, so it might very well have been impossible to retract at all.-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 05:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::If you consider that a FTL drive might be calibrated to make jumps based on a given volume, or mass, themselves possibly relative to the center of gravity of the ship, the physics of the FTL drives might put greater strain onto the ship&#039;s superstructure if jumping without retracting the pods. One could think the retraction is necessary because of power requirements as well. --[[User:Mister Oragahn|Mister Oragahn]] 01:01, 19 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 3100  [[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
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This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==  Known Galactica type battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica Class Battlestar &amp;quot;Proof&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This image [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] has been used as &#039;proof&#039; that Galactica is a galactica class battlestar. Tis image is not canical and thus canot be used to find the ships class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Galactica Class Battlestar</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: There is no canon proof that galacitca is the class name. Please do not reverse.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Galactica type battlestar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; class battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 5000&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
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This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Known Galactica class battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica Class Battlestar Proof ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is proof from this picture that  [[Battlestar Galactica]] is a Galactica Class Battlestar. [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] Also it would make sense  for the lead ship in the class to be named after the class and since Galactica represented Caprica  which is the government  of the  12 colonies, it would make Galactica the head ship in the class.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== The Galactica  Class Battlestar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is lots of proof that Galactica and Columbia are both Galactica class battlestars. &lt;br /&gt;
Although  no one ever says this onscreen it is seen many times in the back ground.&lt;br /&gt;
It would also make sense  that the lead ship in the class was named after the class, and since Galactic &lt;br /&gt;
represented Caprica that makes it the lead ship in the class. In this image it clearly shows (Galactica &lt;br /&gt;
Class Battlestar) [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg].&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Philyboy|P sutherland]] 13:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Archive from [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Galactica_type_battlestar&amp;amp;oldid=47676 April 17, 2006]&lt;br /&gt;
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There is not lots of proof for this line of thinkng. It is not seen many times in the background and at no point is it stated that the galactica is the lead ship of the class. Just because it represents caprica does not make it the lead class. Remember that when the galactica was built the colonies had only just joined togeter, and that was in the face of a new common enemy so they probarbly had only gotten around to creating a single fleet. The image you are using is noncanocal. &lt;br /&gt;
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There is as much, if not more evdsnce that the class name is columbia. The Columbia is seen with full armor surgesting that it was built before the war forced the new ship to be hurried along. Don&#039;t forget that if this class was created in the cylon war then it was conceved, desined and built in 2 years, this a very quick. This is also probarly not the case as it is servested that the Athena was in survace very early on in the war Thus it can be asumed that Colombia was built before the war. Remember that corners were cut in galactcas construction. [[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 21:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Medical Capabilites of a Battlestar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Peter,&lt;br /&gt;
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Your assertion of &amp;quot;unfound speculation&amp;quot; concerning my contribution is uninformed and unfounded.  I am a military medical planner and a published author.  My assertion of the potential medical capabilities and requirements of an intergalactic warship (modeled on a US aircraft carrier), while hypothetical, is informed.  Keep in mind these are requirements that the ship would have originally been built (not the &amp;quot;as is&amp;quot; state).  At this point in the story line, clearly Major Cottle is the only doctor on Galactica, however we have never seen the Pegasus medical bay or any of its medical personnel.  With established industrial facilities on Pegasus (Viper production established in “Scar”), the Pegasus would have evn greater Occupational Health / Preventive Medicine than Galactica.   And if you do a walk down of the ancillary services (pharmacy (camala extract), orthopedic and x-ray (Kara’s knee injury), optometry (ADM Adama’s glasses), etc, you will see they exist even if they are not portrayed.  Additionally, it was an Intensive Care Unit (ICU) bed, complete with ventilator, which William Adama was in during his multiple surgeries (establishing an Operation Room (OR)).&lt;br /&gt;
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Capital ships are designed to go into battle, which means they will take damage and casualties.  Often it is the ability to regenerate / repair / refit in the quickest amount of time that determines the outcome of battles.  General Nathan Bedford Forrest of the Confederate States of America is famous for the quote, “He who gets there the fastest with the mostest wins.” RDM makes reference to his experience onboard a Navy ship in podcasts, including “The Captain’s Hand”.  Thus, there is an established framework present.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I provide you two active hyperlinks that back up my contribution.  While dated, they are still relevant.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.mfp.usmc.mil/TeamApp/G4/Topics/20040916154046/Med%20Cont%20Factbook.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
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www.iiimef.usmc.mil/medical/ FMF/FMFE/FMFEref/fs_man/CHAPTER%2014.html&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Killerman|Killerman]] 20:26, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have no doubt that you are well qualified to speak about the medical capabilities of an aircraft carrier. I dispute their relevance to BSG, however. while they might provide a good baseline for guesswork, I don&#039;t think that simple guesswork belongs on this site. We don&#039;t extrapolate armament details based on the capabilities of modern naval vessels, for example. If you wanted, I wouldn&#039;t object to something along the lines of &amp;quot;we may conjecture that the medical facilities of a colonial battlestar are roughly comparable to those of a modern aircraft carrier&amp;quot; with one of the links you provided above; but I will not agree to listing out detailed specifications based on no in-continuity data. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:37, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;At last I went to the artisans.  I was conscious that I knew nothing at all, as I may say, and I was sure that they knew many fine things; and here I was not mistaken, for they did know many things of which I was ignorant, and in this they certainly were wiser than I was.  But I observed that even the good artisans fell into error;--because they were good workmen they thought that they also knew all sorts of high matters, and this defect in them overshadowed their wisdom;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sir, none of us doubt that you know what you are talking about when you list the medical capabilities of a modern aicraft carrier.  But this does not grant you increased insight into the inner logic of the tv series:  First, we have no idea how many medical staff are onboard, and comparing it to an aircraft carrier is just speculation.  Second, we have no idea how many crewmen a Mercury class battlestar normally has, as has been asked in the &amp;quot;Questions&amp;quot; segment of the &amp;quot;[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]&amp;quot; episode guide article: Pegasus has 1,750 crewmen when it encounters Galactica, but A) It was going into drydock, and some of the crew may have left to the port, B) 700 crewmen died in the initial attack C) Cain impressed civillians she encounteed into service and most importantly C) Cain was fighting a hit and run war against the Cylons for months, which wore down her crew numbers through attrition.  But I digress.  Yes, we should object to a statement like &amp;quot;we may conjecture that medical facilities of a colonial battlestar are roughly comparable to those of a modern aircraft carrier&amp;quot;.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:41, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I guess you can object to that too, if you want. I was trying to compromise. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:48, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m sorry Peter but this is a really good example of the speculation I don&#039;t think we should be inserting into this kind of article.  There is nothing to be gained from such a compromise.  I would if there were, and would like to, but I can&#039;t change facts.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:51, 12 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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As I am preparing to deploy for a year, please forgive me as I have packed all my BSG video.  I grant you that the personnel numbers for a fully manned battlestar are informed speculation based upon a comparison to a modern aircraft carrier.  I use these numbers as RDM has referenced a battlestar to a modern carrier, his experience in the Navy (podcast for The Captain’s Hand), Galactica type battlestar – article – dimensions’ jpg comparing a Battlestar to a CVN Image:Bsg-2-cvn.jpg on this very page.  My professional training drives me to fill in unknowns with assumptions.  That is what the personnel piece was intended and is consistent with other speculation within the Wiki, so long as it is said to be speculation (i.e. the actual working of an FTL drive).  But sticking to the medical capabilities known from “in country (your term)” knowledge (i.e. seen on screen or in dialogue), we know much about Galactica.  First, Galactica has a sickbay (Act of Contrition, Litmus).   Exact bed count is not known, but is greater than seven (Act of Contrition). Based upon the burn victims (Act of Contrition) and treatment of William Adama (Scattered, Valley of Darkness, Fragged), we have seen Intensive Care Unit (ICU) beds, complete with ventilators, electrocardiograms (ECG), pulse / respiration / pulseox (shows percent of oxygen saturation dissolved in blood) monitors.  We also have seen at least on operation room (OR) (Fragged), and subsequently confirm its existence with Kara Thrace’s knee surgery (Litmus) and Lee Adama’s chest surgery (Sacrifice).  Concerning the radiology suite, we saw a Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI – incidentally, a very advanced piece of equipment) when Baltar had Dr. Cottle examine his head looking for an implanted chip (sorry, don’t remember the episode).  We also saw conventional (chest) x-rays of Commander William Adama, during his surgery (Fragged, Scattered).  We heard about Sharon’s ultrasound, as part of pre-natal health on Hera, where Dr. Cottle found an abnormality. And while not part of radiology, Hera, is placed in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) incubator, when is born prematurely.  Next, we know it has a pharmacy.  The President asked Dr. Cottle for Camala, the Viper pilots were taking “stims” (33, Final Cut) and Kara is taking pain killers for her knee surgery (Litmus) and latter asks Lee for antibiotics for Anders (Lay Down Your Burdens – Part II).  Additionally, with the surgeries and burn victims, there are other pharmacological needs and a pharmacy is where these things dwell.  Other areas that we have seen or know about are a morgue, where Galactica-Boomer was stored; a laboratory (to do support simple blood type and matching to support surgery), optometry with a fabrication lab (William Adama wears glasses and as stated in other areas of this site, battlestars are designed for sustained operations).  We are also can infer that Galactica has some preventive medicine / occupational health capability because in “Water”, there was a discussion about water recycling (leading to potable water).  It is Preventive Medicine that does this task.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to add that RDM and SciFi do a heck of a job weaving into the background all these things.  As an experienced health services officer with over 22 years in the health care field, there is a tremendous amount of detail that happens in the background.  If I was a casual observer, I might miss or not care about some of these things.  As someone headed into harms way, I assure you that our fighting forces moral is impacted  combat health support.  I absolutely belive we need to address the medical capabilities of a battle star.  The propose the best way is start with what it would look like at full strenght / desired capability.  Clearly, Season 3 will start with two grossly undermanned battlestars, with very limited offensive combat capability.--[[User:Killerman|Killerman]] 22:10, 16 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The citations you&#039;ve provided make it much easier to include this information, and I thank you for taking the time to write this all out. The addition should improve the article considerably. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:21, 16 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am sorry, but this doesn&#039;t change much:  the above information was gleaned from things we&#039;ve seen on screen, and is thus informative and useful.  However, the original entry to this article he made (speculative medical numbers, etc.)...isn&#039;t supported by any of these citations.  Basically, they&#039;re two separate issues and should be treated separately.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:48, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Reverting to Killerman&#039;s last version isn&#039;t a good idea, but he (or we) can refactor his contribution using the points and evidence he raised above. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:57, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh yes yes, something new and revised.  Yes.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:24, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Manufacture vs. Assembly of Ammunition ==&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;assembly&amp;quot; activities that take place in [[Epiphanies]] would fall into the realm of &amp;quot;production&amp;quot;, depending on how you look at it. It seemed like they were loading the casings (I thought RDM said they were going to use caseless ammo) with powder, seating the primer and inserting the bullet, turning the various components into a cartridge. Whether or not they produced the individual components (metal for bullets and casings would be easy, compounds for primers and powder probably harder to obtain), the act of putting those bits together would often be considered &amp;quot;manufacturing&amp;quot; ammunition. Not a big deal, and I didn&#039;t even change the text (since it&#039;s pretty debatable). An example of this use of the word is in this [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4044-2004Jul21_2.html Washington Post Article]:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Israeli Military Industries said the ammunition will be manufactured in Israel but the raw materials, including propellants, projectiles and primers, come from U.S. sources.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Once again, not trying to start a war, just wanted to weigh in on a subject I knew a little about (since they so rarely come up). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:02, 17 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Picture of destroyed Galactica-type Battlestar ==&lt;br /&gt;
Though certainly a model of a Galactica-type was used for the shot, it&#039;s clearly mentioned at the very beginning of the miniseries that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the only ship of it&#039;s kind still in service. The story places the shot only hours after the beginning of the attack, so it should be impossible that another Galactica-type (museum or mothballed in a reserve-fleet) could be readied for battle. Shouldn&#039;t the destroyed battlestar be taken as one of a third class between the Galactica-Type and Mercury-class, still looking a lot like the Galactica-type? [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 13:39, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That was my impulse. Story logic dictates that the destroyed hulk probably wasn&#039;t a Galactica type, but in the real world we can surmise that Zoic probably re-used the Galactica model. Of course, from that distance, we could fudge our interpretation either way. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:50, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They don&#039;t necessarily mean that there are no Galactica type battlestars in service besides the Big-G, it could be taken to mean none like Galactica, eg. non-refitted, no networks, etc. The battlestar there could easily (and belivably) be a refitted Galactica type. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:22, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I concur with Talos, and that has been my understanding. Besides, unless the ship was simply overwhelmed by Cylon military brawn, an old-Cylon War battlestar would put up the same level of fight as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; would have. Else, it was just as vulnerable as the new battlestars. I agree, cinematically, that that Galactica model was just reused.--[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:59, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://www.skyone.co.uk/programme/pgefeature.aspx?pid=3&amp;amp;fid=642 Something to ask] the big man himself? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 14:34, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;ll do that in a little bit, I have to pick up my brother from his band practice in a minute. The life of a college student living at home... --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:36, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I really doubt he&#039;s going to take the time to clarify such a niggling detail. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:39, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It has always been my belief that Doral meant it was the only Galactica-type battlestar never refited.  I always point to the &#039;&#039;U.S.S. Missouri&#039;&#039; (Mighty &#039;Mo) as an example of a ship with over 50 years of combat service that just kept getting refitted over time to the point that it was firing satellite-targeted cruise missiles at the end of its service.  I think Galactica was just the only one that was never refitted.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:57, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:My point exactly. It&#039;s like the WWII era Essex class carriers. There were refits that were completly rebuilt but a few, essentially, originals survived until the early 1960s with the others serving thru Vietnam ([[Wikipedia:USS Oriskany (CVA-34)|USS Oriskany (CVA-34)]] for example). The [[Wikipedia:USS Lexington (CV-16)|USS Lexington (CV-16)]] was in service as a training ship until 1991! --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:26, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It&#039;s exactly the &#039;&#039;USS Missouri&#039;&#039;-example why I believe that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the last of it&#039;s class: All four &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-Class battleships were updated and they all were finally decommissoned (for now) between 1990 and 1992. If the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is simply the only one not refitted one would have to ask why that wasn&#039;t done. Why would one refit three &#039;&#039;Iowas&#039;&#039; but not the last one? This usually only happens if a ship is somehow different from her sisters (e.g. having sustained heavy battledamage the refit is more expensive and not worth the effort). Also it could be that the fleet is being downsized, no longer needing all ships. An example for this would be the British [[Wikipedia:Illustrious class aircraft carrier|&#039;&#039;Illustrious&#039;&#039;-Class]] of World War II. Of these three carriers only one received an angled flight-deck, surviving the scrapping of the other two for twenty years. But in all these cases I find it hard to believe that anyone would describe one of the ships decommissioned first as &#039;&#039;the last of it&#039;s kind still in service&#039;&#039; if there others (refitted or not) still in action. Which &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039; would have been described that way prior to it&#039;s decommissioning: &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039; in 1990 or &#039;&#039;Missouri&#039;&#039; in 1992? Wasn&#039;t &#039;&#039;Lexington&#039;&#039; the last &#039;&#039;Essex&#039;&#039;?&lt;br /&gt;
::What Doral says before and after that statement makes it quite clear that he&#039;s not talking about a certain detail (like &#039;&#039;last of it&#039;s kind without a network&#039;&#039; would have been). He starts with &#039;&#039;worldfamous Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039;, then &#039;&#039;last of her kind still in service&#039;&#039; followed by &#039;&#039;constructed 50 years ago as one of the first twelve battlestars, representing Caprica&#039;&#039;. The only possible explanation for other Galactica-types this leaves would be &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; being the last of the first twelve, with other Galactica-types coming from a second batch no longer representing specific colonys. But even then &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot; is an usual choice of words to describe that. [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 17:13, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well said. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:04, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it is still ambiguous, and we should wait for an RDM blog reply before changing anything.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:54, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I doubt RDM will respond to this issue, and I think the safest course of action would just be to remove it. There&#039;s sufficient reason to doubt that the hulk isn&#039;t a galactica-type that we shouldn&#039;t take a firm position on the issue. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:22, 25 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The motivation for no refit to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; could be nostaliga or historical preservation, explaining the odd wording; for such a purpose, only the unaltered version would count. ...Don&#039;t get the impression I believe that just because I said it. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 20:56, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Not to mention Adama, &amp;quot;It&#039;s a computer network and I&#039;ll be damned if I&#039;ll let it aboard my ship while I&#039;m in command.&amp;quot; (Paraphrased)--[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:01, 24 April 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We don&#039;t even know for sure if the destroyed battlestar was even in service. It could have been decommissioned earlier and be acting like a museum, just like Galactica was supposed to be. That would also explain its quick destruction. (It snapped cleanly in half). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 09:01, 13 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It could easily be in service still. In the Russian (and former Soviet) navy, there is a class of destroyers called the [[w:Udaloy class destroyer|Udaloy]]. The last of the class was heavily refitted and updated, bringing it up almost to Burke class levels. The important thing here is that there are still unrefitted ones in service (there was only enough money to upgrade one, the Admiral Chabenko). Then again, there is the Fletcher/Sumner class destroyers. The main differences were the gun armament (5x1 5&amp;quot; in Fletcher, 3x2 5&amp;quot; in Sumner), and the Sumner&#039;s twin rudders. Same hull and most of the superstructure. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:13, 13 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
Also possible that the Galactica was origionally heavily armored like the Columbia but retrofitted. Then the other 1st war ships of its type were eventually decomissioned, whilst other Galactica Type Battlestars were made after the war without the extra armor (and other things we don&#039;t know about) to the new upgraded design of the Galactica type, therefore a different kind of ship. [[User:VARGR|VARGR]] 20:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Crew numbers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How do we know a fully manned and equipped battlestar has a crew of 4,000 to 5,000? Was it said in some episode or where do these numbers come from? I&#039;m updating the [[de:Kampfstern, Galactica-Typ|german battlestar article]] and I don&#039;t like to use data that seems to be made up out of thin air. The links and notes provided don&#039;t give any hint about the normal crew number of a battlestar of this type. We apologise for any inconvenience. -- [[User:Astfgl|Astfgl]] 16:03, 25 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In the Miniseries, Tyrol says that there are over 2,000 people on Galactica. The ships seems very undermanned at the same time so I would think that 4-5,000 is a good estimate. I&#039;m not sure if we&#039;ve seen any concrete numbers though, maybe in the magazine. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 16:52, 25 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Answer:  in &amp;quot;Water&amp;quot; Baltar says how many civilians there are in the Fleet, and subtracting that from the total survivor population in that episode yielded the crew aboard Galactica as of &amp;quot;Water&amp;quot;, at some number over 2,600 (I&#039;d have to check).  In several podcasts, Ron Moore keeps saying that while not on a skeleton crew, Galactica has about half the number of people on it that a fully crewed battlestar of its class would have.  So, &amp;quot;between 4,000 and 5,000&amp;quot;. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks for the clarification, I&#039;ll take these numbers then. -- [[User:Astfgl|Astfgl]] 07:37, 26 June 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Flight tube counts ==&lt;br /&gt;
I see (in [[:Image:Bsg-2-cvn.jpg]], e.g.) 20 slots that seem like they might each be divided in half along the side of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. I can see why it is likely they are launch tubes, but I can also see many other similarly sized openings around them. Although it&#039;s a fine guess and quite likely to be true, I&#039;m left hestitant that this evidence is sufficiently strong to be canon. In any case, if consensus is that this is canon, we should certainly footnote it, as the truth of the statement is not patently clear. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:10, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Delivery of Nuclear weapons == &lt;br /&gt;
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Since the Cylon forces repeatedly use missiles as an effective delivery platform for their nuclear weapons, isn&#039;t ir relativel safe to assume- since, of course, the Cylons were created by the Colonials- that the method deployed by Colonial forces is also missile-based? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 09:22, 12 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a good idea, and I personally agree with it, but there is no aired proof, and thusly we cannot confirm how they do it. The two Galactica nukes we&#039;ve seen thus far (Baltar&#039;s and the one Boomer uses to destroy the Basestar in Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming Part II) have been removed from their delivery systems. (Although Boomer&#039;s did look like it was in a bomb casing). --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:31, 12 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fair point. Perhaps we&#039;ll get clarificaion in Season3, since Galactica herself still has three nuclear weapons aboard. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 10:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, we know now, good call on it being revealed in season 3, Although they haven&#039;t been used yet, I&#039;m willing to bet they will be used in season 4 and we are going to have to update the articles again.--[[User:Tomglima|Tomglima]] 20:09, 23 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Galactica-Class? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please bear with me for a moment as I am citing a magazine many of you may consider illegitimate.  In the September 2006 issue of Maxim Magazine, the &amp;quot;Fashion&amp;quot; section of Maxim Style features a photoshoot of the RDM Battlestar Galactica cast modeling various fashions.  In one photograph, featuring James Callis and Tricia Helfer in a small corner alcove of the CIC (possibly weapons control or some other station), a center console features the text &amp;quot;GALACTICA-CLASS BATTLESTAR&amp;quot; in two places, easily readable to the viewer.  I know it is general policy on television shows that whatever is aired in a given episode is canon, and what is not aired, non-canon.  However, would this (i.e., &amp;quot;Galactica-class Battlestar&amp;quot;) be considered canon since this console is occasionally seen in a given episode?  Or am I just reading too much into a simple photoshoot? --[[User:Jonfucius|Jonfucius]] 09:30, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you have a photograph of this? or a timestamp where we can check the DVD&#039;s? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:55, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I assume he means [http://bsg-cz.net/news/files/images/season_3/maxim_5.jpg this] but on that pic I can&#039;t really see it on the prinouts on the table. It does indeed look like the weapon&#039;s control room, though I can&#039;t recall the table there. The room can be seen very rarely. In the miniseries for example --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can barely make it out. Though it isn&#039;t canon, unless we saw it on the show itself, or if someone from the show were to tell us that &amp;quot;yes, indeed, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is a &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;-class battlestar&amp;quot;. Then it&#039;s canon. However, by all means, we can certainly put something in the notes section regarding this. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:17, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That&#039;s definitely the weapons control section of CIC. If we can get a clearer shot, that will remove all doubt; it does look like &amp;quot;Galactica class&amp;quot; to me. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:57, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Something for [[BW:OC]]? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:14, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If I had access to a scanner I would provide a high-res image to examine; unfortunately, I am a relatively-poor college student (and how many aren&#039;t these days?) and the only scanner access I have is a public-use scanner in our bookstore.  However, the image Mercifull provided is the one I indicated in my first post.  In my copy of the issue, the text clearly reads &amp;quot;Galactica-class Battlestar&amp;quot;.  I know this is a minor detail among many in a show so richly layered by the writers and producers, but I wanted to make sure the Battlestar Wiki was as accurate as possible; I use the Wiki to enhance my experience of this incredible drama.  Thank you all for your timely responses to my question. --[[User:Jonfucius|Jonfucius]] 11:39, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I hate to dredge up an old topic, but here&#039;s some food for thought that might support the theory that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the class name. Now, we&#039;re told that Galactica herself represented Caprica, the de facto capital of the colonies. Surely it stands to reason that the first battlestar built would be the one to represent the primary colony- Galactica. I know this is fanwanking, but I just thought of it and figured I&#039;d voice my idea. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 12:26, 5 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actual class name? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can purely speculate that the actual name of the original battlestar class (of which &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; is a member) is &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;, in honor of the wife of assassinated President [[Wikipedia:John F. Kennedy|John F. Kennedy]], [[Wikipedia:Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis|Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis]]. So, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is considered as an &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;-class battlestar. The prototype of its class, battlestar &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039; is destroyed in the renewed [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] conflict. --[[User:Starkiller|Starkiller]] 21:06, 18 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::LMAO at this troll.--[[User:Tomglima|Tomglima]] 20:11, 23 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And there&#039;s &#039;&#039;nothing&#039;&#039; to back this up with? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 02:06, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And how would Colonials know of the Kennedys? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:29, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because they got information from Earth about these Kennedys before the Cylon Holocaust. Years before the [[Cylon War]], the battlestar prototype, &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;, is constructed, then &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; itself. Therefore, we presume this original battlestar class (of which &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; is a member) is &#039;&#039;Onassis&#039;&#039;. --[[User:Starkiller|Starkiller]] 04:20, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; confused. There would have to be some serious cite for that change. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:10, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Starkiller is being absurd to prove a point, but, like others, I&#039;m missing it. As per our convention, pure speculation is disallowed here without official sources to back it up. Since the picture of two BSG actors on an official set using props that match others with information cited as official and used here for articles (navigation charts) which indicates that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the first of her class, we should continue on this thread. Otherwise, Starkiller&#039;s comment is patent nonsense given that BSG is deliberately set so we don&#039;t know if the events occur in real-world Earth&#039;s past, present, or future. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:13, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve heard on several occasions that Galactica may be an &amp;quot;Atlantia-class&amp;quot; battlestar, but have found nothing to support this online. I&#039;ve also heard that the original Galactica was a &amp;quot;Columbia-class&amp;quot;. Is this true? If so, is it possible that the re-imagined Galactica is also a Columbia-class? I think this should head on over to [[BW:OC]]. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 11:46, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;Columbia-class&amp;quot; is common fan fiction. &amp;quot;Atlantia&amp;quot; class would make little sense: why would the fleet admiral use a old battlestar as his flagship? His ship would be Mercury class or something better (and more advanced--it was destroyed like the other [[CNP]] ships). --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:34, 19 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Then why does Adama choose Galactica as his flaghsip, and not Pegasus? There&#039;s nothing said on-screen to suggest that the Galactica-type battlestars were NOT re-fitted with computer networks. I&#039;m just playing devil&#039;s advocate here. Besides, the Atlantia mentioned in the mini could easily have been Mercury-class, and the original may have been retired like the Big G was. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 06:54, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Commanders don&#039;t have to choose the best and biggest ship as their flagship as long as they can do their duty from another one. Don&#039;t know who but some guy in WWII chose a destroyer or maybe a battleship as his command post and not an aircraft carrier. As long as there are options, there is some personal choice involved.&lt;br /&gt;
::::And you&#039;re right about networks. The Mini gives the distinct impression that it was only Adama&#039;s doing that the Galactica &lt;br /&gt;
::::wasn&#039;t more automated -[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:08, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yeah, Admiral Raymond Spruance chose the cruiser USS Indianapolis as his flagship when he had multiple carriers at his disposal. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:11, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As shown in events during the second half of season 2, Adama doesn&#039;t likely trust &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; crew. To quote Adama: &amp;quot;I tend to go with what you know, until something better comes along.&amp;quot; So the decision is logical; he trusts &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her crew, thus he plants his flag there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:52, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::An corollary to Joe&#039;s comments: It is very likely that there is a long-standing (but fading) tradition to keep &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from being refitted, just as our USS Constitution was never refitted as a steamer, in keeping with her (supposed) significancy in Colonial war history. Besides, to &#039;&#039;revert&#039;&#039; any ship from new to old technology is just weird and very unlikely. There may have been fewer commanders willing to assume command of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; in this tradition, but Adama, a man who knew all too well of the problems of technology (and had served on her in the last part of the war), chose &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; willingly, I figure. This is reinforced with the arrival of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. He could&#039;ve moved his new admiral flag there, but he hasn&#039;t. He prefers to go with what he knows until something better shows up. The old battlestar &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in Adama&#039;s mind, is still best. &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; survived more on luck than inherent design. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:30, 20 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Role==&lt;br /&gt;
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As with the Mercury-class article, I&#039;ve amended the class role to [[Wikipedia:Battlecarrier|battlecarrier]]. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 15:37, 27 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Madbrood, I can appreciate the use, but based on your link, I disagree. The term &amp;quot;battlestar&amp;quot; is a true carrier AND battleship in one, where the &amp;quot;battlecarrier&amp;quot; of our Earth is a rough amalgam that doesn&#039;t come close in size, fighter capacity, or firepower. Further, I wonder if we want to use complext Earth naval terms instead of what is given in the show to describe the ships using simple naval language. &amp;quot;Carrier/battleship&amp;quot; is less &amp;quot;smooth&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;battlecruiser&amp;quot;, but is is also more accurate. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:44, 27 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree. Battlecruiser is a nice term, but it really doesn&#039;t fit Galactica. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:35, 28 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fair enough. I just figured it sounded a bit more &amp;quot;military&amp;quot;. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 09:47, 28 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I know. I&#039;d love to put up &amp;quot;big, frakkin&#039; warship/carrier with guns, lots of guns,&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;warship/carrier&amp;quot; may have to do. Keeping it simple. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:33, 28 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Battlestar Redirect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestar (RDM) currently redirects here. The only reason this concerned me was I was actually linking to a more generic use of the word (&amp;quot;Adama had been on an another battlestar before &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;). Back when &amp;quot;big G&amp;quot; was the only one we knew of, it defintely made sense. Now that we have &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Mercury class&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; type&amp;quot; I was wondering if maybe we needed a more generic article to sit at battlestar (RDM) describing the aircraft carrier/battleship capital ship concept in more general terms, with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; being specific examples. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:45, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:That sounds good to me, a general article explaing what battlestars are, listing known ones, mentioning BSGs, missions, etc. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:30, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Rather than that, why not redirect to the central [[Battlestar]] disambiguation? It already has listed all battlestars by show and type, and avoids extra work. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:26, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039;&#039; is exactly what I wanted to link to. I just automatically tagged an RDM on the end of it. I&#039;ll go change that link, but I agree that we should just change Battlestar (RDM) to point to Battlestar (work smarter not harder). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 20:57, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Hah, I&#039;d forgotten about that page. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:23, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Done. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:40, 4 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Life Support ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How exactly do Galactica&#039;s life support systems work? I know their recirculation units replenish oxygen and remove carbon dioxide, but does this oxygen come from tanks or is it recycled from somewhere? The ISS uses electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, so is is possible that Galactica-type ships do something similar to this?--[[User:Rapturous|Rapturous]] 13:52, 10 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Other than the scrubbers, it&#039;s really never been explained. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &amp;amp;mdash; &#039;&#039;New&#039;&#039;]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:03, 10 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Theoretically, they could have a big room full of plants somewhere in the ship. Plants &#039;breathe in&#039; carbon dioxide and &#039;breathe out&#039; oxygen, the opposite of what we do. However, you would need some kind of imitation sun then, because the chemical reaction I just described can only occur in sunlight. Other (artifical) means of converting CO&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; back to oxygen could also be used (scrubbers?), but like the plants they will also require energy to work. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:57, 11 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Have you ever seen the film [[w:Sunshine (2007 film)|Sunshine]] Catrope?&lt;br /&gt;
:::http://www.sunshinedna.com/wp-images/2005/09/2109_06a.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
:::They used an oxygen garden in that to produce the breathable air :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:37, 11 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yep, I have. Spoilers for Sunshine follow: {{spoilli|In the scene where the &#039;&#039;Icarus II&#039;&#039; crew boards &#039;&#039;Icarus I&#039;&#039;, you can see that her garden is still alive, because of the CO&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; O&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; equilibrium between the plants and Captain Pinbacker who has lived there for seven years (having killed the rest of his crew).}} --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:58, 11 October 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Perhaps tanks containing algae, submitted to given ranges of EM radiations? The idea of a garden is nice, but doesn&#039;t fit in the show, since no one ever walked in Galactica&#039;s garden. ;) That&#039;s why they needed Cloud 9. --[[User:Mister Oragahn|Mister Oragahn]] 01:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica class pic to rear its head again ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I ran across [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg this picture], which shows the &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot; sheet again. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &amp;amp;mdash; &#039;&#039;New&#039;&#039;]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:21, 25 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Shall we [[BW:OC|ask Brad]] whether this is official or just something the props department made up? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:21, 26 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe put it on a more prominent place in the article, but explain that such props aren&#039;t necessarily official or reliable. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 26 November 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Main Battery Numbers ==&lt;br /&gt;
I have noticed that there is some confusion on the number of these guns. In examining the the picture of the ventral side, I have noticed 12 guns. 8 are marked, while 4 (two starboard and two port) are partially concealed by the bottom of the bow. They are roughly between the forward four guns and the first four midships guns. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 19:51, 13 January 2008 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There are twelve marked (8+4). With another 4, that would make the original number of 24 correct (16 ventral  + 8 dorsal). That&#039;s why being so pedantic about trivial stuff like ship armament is kinda annoying. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 02:27, 14 January 2008 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why the flight pods must be retracted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When Galactica made the jump that broke her spine, her flight pods were still out. It would seem that jumping with the pods extended on this class of ship causes undue structural strain. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 02:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: This was never the real reason for the strain. Having the flight pods extended doesn&#039;t cause strain... the jump itself caused strain, particularly after the stress from ramming the Colony and from the previous wear and tear Galactica experienced over the four years. Starting from the nuke impacting on Galactica in the Mini, the stress of continually jumping away from the Colonies, the &amp;quot;Adama Maneuver&amp;quot; at New Caprica, the various engagements with the Cylons throughout the series, going through the star cluster, etc., etc. Tigh said way back in Season Three that it would take weeks of Galactica in drydock just to knock out the dents... and he wasn&#039;t joking. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I know that. But jumping with the flight pods out (which has been thoroughly established to be a bad course of action for Galactica&#039;s class of battlestar) probably didn&#039;t help.&lt;br /&gt;
:::There are just too many circumstances that factored into &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; breaking her back to make a clear argument for and against the flight pods being *the* main cause. Yes, in all the previous instances it has been said that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; couldn&#039;t (or couldn&#039;t afford) to jump with them extended.  But Adama knew that this was her last mission, and just like Cain, coordinates or flight pods be damned, just jump or they&#039;re doomed just the same. BTW, the Raptors jumping inside the flight pod distrupted the structure, so it might very well have been impossible to retract at all.-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 05:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::If you consider that a FTL drive might be calibrated to make jumps based on a given volume, or mass, themselves possibly relative to the center of gravity of the ship, the physics of the FTL drives might put greater strain onto the ship&#039;s superstructure if jumping without retracting the pods. One could think the retraction is necessary because of power requirements as well. --[[User:Mister Oragahn|Mister Oragahn]] 01:01, 19 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; class battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 3100  [[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;clear: both;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;clear: both;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Known Galactica class battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Galactica Class Battlestar Proof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is proof from this picture that  [[Battlestar Galactica]] is a Galactica Class Battlestar. [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] Also it would make sense  for the lead ship in the class to be named after the class and since Galactica represented Caprica  which is the government  of the  12 colonies, it would make Galactica the head ship in the class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Battlestars|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Galactica Class Battlestar</title>
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT &amp;quot;Galactica type battlestar&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; class battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 3100  [[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;clear: both;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;clear: both;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==  Known Galactica class battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica Class Battlestar Proof ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is proof from this picture that  [[Battlestar Galactica]] is a Galactica Class Battlestar. [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] Also it would make sense  for the lead ship in the class to be named after the class and since Galactica represented Caprica  which is the government  of the  12 colonies, it would make Galactica the head ship in the class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Galactica Class Battlestar</title>
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&lt;div&gt;REDIRECT &amp;quot;Galactica type battlestar&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; class battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 3100  [[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
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This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Known Galactica class battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Galactica Class Battlestar Proof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is proof from this picture that  [[Battlestar Galactica]] is a Galactica Class Battlestar. [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] Also it would make sense  for the lead ship in the class to be named after the class and since Galactica represented Caprica  which is the government  of the  12 colonies, it would make Galactica the head ship in the class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;font-size:85%&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Descriptive terms]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Battlestars|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Galactica Class Battlestar</title>
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:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; class battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 3100  [[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Known Galactica class battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Galactica Class Battlestar Proof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is proof from this picture that  [[Battlestar Galactica]] is a Galactica Class Battlestar. [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] Also it would make sense  for the lead ship in the class to be named after the class and since Galactica represented Caprica  which is the government  of the  12 colonies, it would make Galactica the head ship in the class.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;font-size:85%&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Descriptive terms]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Battlestars|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>JosephK19</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Galactica type battlestar</title>
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		<updated>2009-06-10T15:50:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 3100  [[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;clear: both;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==  Known Galactica type battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica Class Battlestar &amp;quot;Proof&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This image [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] has been used as &#039;proof&#039; that Galactica is a galactica class battlestar. Tis image is not canical and thus canot be used to find the ships class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Descriptive terms]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Battlestars|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Kampfstern, Galactica-Typ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Atlantia Class Battlestar/Archive 1</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== were did that come from? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Were did you get that. I think this page should be deleted.--[[User:Philyboy|P sutherland]] 18:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Ditto. I&#039;m on it now. There is absolutely no evidence presently available of this being the case. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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ya I was 99% sure that the Valkyries class was never mentioned. Can you delete the page right away before some people get confused? --[[User:Philyboy|P sutherland]] 22:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The contributor noted that the information was provided to us by Zoic... I&#039;ve asked for confirmation before I delete it outright. As of right now, however, the page shouldn&#039;t link to anything so there&#039;s no rush to delete it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is almost certainly fanon. For a start the figures provided for the length are too long. And it would make no sence if the flagship was an old cheap class. But get this by season 3 (when the valk first appeared) zoic was no longer working on the show. [[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 07:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Galactica Class Battlestar</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: Redirected page to Galactica type battlestar&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT[[Galactica type battlestar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Galactica class battlestar &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 5000&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;. [[Adam &amp;quot;Mojo&amp;quot; Lebowitz]] posted a length of [http://darthmojo.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/how-big-was-the-colony/#comment-2193 4740 feet] (1445m).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==  Known Galactica class battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica Class Battlestar Proof ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is proof from this picture that  [[Battlestar Galactica]] is a Galactica Class Battlestar. [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] Also it would make sense  for the lead ship in the class to be named after the class and since Galactica represented Caprica  which is the government  of the  12 colonies, it would make Galactica the head ship in the class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Galactica class battlestar &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 5000&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;. [[Adam &amp;quot;Mojo&amp;quot; Lebowitz]] posted a length of [http://darthmojo.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/how-big-was-the-colony/#comment-2193 4740 feet] (1445m).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
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This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==  Known Galactica class battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica Class Battlestar Proof ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is proof from this picture that  [[Battlestar Galactica]] is a Galactica Class Battlestar. [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] Also it would make sense  for the lead ship in the class to be named after the class and since Galactica represented Caprica  which is the government  of the  12 colonies, it would make Galactica the head ship in the class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Descriptive terms]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Battlestars|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Kampfstern, Galactica-Typ]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Galactica type battlestar</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the [[Re-imagined Series]] battlestar class. For other meanings of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, see [[Galactica (disambiguation)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{bsgwiki term}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a Colonial capital ship that combines the functions of aircraft carrier and a battleship &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although not strictly official and not yet shown or confirmed in the series itself, the September 2006 [http://www.maximonline.com/index.aspx Maxim] issue contained a photoshoot, including [[:image:GalacticaClass.jpg|this]] picture showing the weapons control room in the CIC. A printout on the table reads &amp;quot;Galactica class battlestar&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ship Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image= Battlestar_stern.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| race= Colonial&lt;br /&gt;
| type= Military&lt;br /&gt;
| ftl= Yes (at least 2 drives&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ftl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tigh:&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Engineering/Combat. Please spin up FTL drives One and Two.&amp;quot; ([[Miniseries]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
| propol = 6 sublight engines (4 in outboard engine pods, 2 on main hull between engine pods), 40 maneuvering engines (in 10 clusters of 4)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;zoic&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Originally sourced to [[Zoic]] without explanation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| crew= 3100  [[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
| role= Capital battleship/carrier&lt;br /&gt;
| weapons= Primary and point-defense [[KEW|Kinetic Energy Weapons]], conventional missiles, nuclear warheads, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]], [[Raptor|Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
| status= Last known ship destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
| length= {{Meters2Feet|1438.64}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These dimensions (in meters) were derived from the CG model and posted by [[Lee Stringer]] on the StarshipBuilder.com forums, which are no longer available. They are the most precise so far. The width with pods extended and the height are quoted here verbatim; the length was calculated by adding the posted dimension for the front of the ship (766.04m) to the posted dimension for the back (672.6m). The full set as provided by Lee Stringer is as follows: &amp;quot;Width (Pods out) 536.84m (Pods In) 352.34m&lt;br /&gt;
Engines Max 359.38m Head Max 334.58m&lt;br /&gt;
Length: Front (Main body) 730.65m (Antenee) 766.04m Back 672.6m&lt;br /&gt;
(using the center of the two arms as the middle)&lt;br /&gt;
Height (Armor/Mainbody) 181.825m (Details) 183.315m&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| width= {{Meters2Feet|536.84}}&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;podtopod&amp;quot;&amp;gt;This is from flight pod to flight pod while they are extended.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| height= {{Meters2Feet|183.315}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Operation Raptor Talon.jpg|left|thumb|Three battlestars [[Operation Raptor Talon|engaging]] Cylon forces ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The first twelve battlestars were laid down in the early days of the [[Cylon War]]. Each of these twelve battlestars represented one of the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestars were space-going leviathans of some 4,720ft (1,438.64m) in length, housing at least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters apiece and nuclear warheads. A fully-armed battlestar is capable of a wide range of offensive actions, while her defensive armaments ensure she is fully capable of both protecting herself from attack and engaging an enemy at close quarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the end of the war, the original battlestars remained in service and many newer battlestars were built. At the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the newer [[Mercury class battlestar|&#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039; class]] represented the top of the line. Ships such as these and the &#039;&#039;[[Valkyrie]]&#039;&#039; type battlestars have nearly completely replaced the original battlestars, making &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; the last of this unnamed class still in its original condition. [[Unnamed battlestars|A few other ships]] of the class remained in service, although it is likely that these battlestars shared only their external configuration with &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and were upgraded and thus more technologically advanced  &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upgrade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Aaron Doral]]&#039;s comment at the start of the Miniseries, that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is the &amp;quot;last of her kind&amp;quot;, suggests that other &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; type battlestars still in service use equipment that may be entirely different, regardless of the external configuration. Doral could also be referring to the lack of [[CNP|computer networks]] on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as opposed to the rest of the fleet, which still indicates hardware upgrades during the vessels&#039; lifetimes.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Layout==&lt;br /&gt;
The design common to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her sister ships can be broken down into two main sections: the main hull, and the twin flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Main hull ===&lt;br /&gt;
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This comprises the bulk of a battlestar and can itself be divided into three sections:&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;alligator head&amp;quot; contains water storage tanks ([[Water]]) and the [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The midships area contains the pod retraction mechanisms and crossways linking the hangar decks for the transfer of equipment and personnel ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The stern section contains sublight engines, [[FTL]] drives, etc. Four of the sublight engines are in engine pods, and two more are between the pods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Flight pods ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Flight pod]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The flight pods are mounted on either side of the hull and contain a battlestar&#039;s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor|Raptors]]. During normal operations, they are extended away from the main hull. During [[FTL]] jumps, the pods are retracted against the hull, concealing their open ends and making launches and landings impossible. Each pod comprises two main decks for flight operations: the upper landing bay, which extends the full length of the pod, and the lower launch bays, which provide some 40 launch tubes per pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing approaches are made from the stern. The preferred approach is a slow run into the landing bay, prior to making a vertical landing on a defined landing area ([[Act of Contrition]]). However, in emergencies, [[Combat landing|combat landings]] can be made, in which a craft approaches and lands at high speed on its landing skids ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[hangar deck]] is used for maintenance, repair, refueling, rearming, and launch operations and runs the length of the flight pod.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bsg-2-cvn.jpg|thumb|right|Comparison of a battlestar and &#039;&#039;Nimitz&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Propulsion===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sublight.jpg|thumb|right|&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with all six sublight engines engaged ([[33]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their massive size, battlestars are extremely maneuverable and can dock with space stations such as [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Battlestars are not designed for atmospheric flight, although their hulls can manage a tenuous upper atmospheric storm like that surrounding the gas giant [[Ragnar]] ([[Miniseries]]) and can survive a jump and subsequent freefall into the atmosphere of a habitable planet ([[Exodus, Part II]]). A battlestar&#039;s [[FTL]] systems are capable of accurate jumps, able to place them in synchronous orbit above a relatively close planet and of placing them safely in the midst of an asteroid field ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), a dense fleet of ships ([[Scattered]]), or a planetary atmosphere. However, they are grossly inferior to [[Cylon]] systems in terms of [[Red Line|safe range]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Endurance===&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are intended to operate for long periods without re-supplying. Their water purification capabilities alone are so efficient that, barring an emergency or unforeseen event, a battlestar can operate &amp;quot;for several years before replenishing&amp;quot; ([[Water]]). They also appear capable of undertaking large-scale repairs following battle damage ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Water]]&amp;quot;). They have ammunition assembly capabilities in the armory ([[Epiphanies]]) and may have small general fabrication facilities ([[Litmus]]). Vegetable stores and canned goods are kept in [[Wikipedia:Titanium|titanium]] lockers ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
Battlestars are capable of continuing combat operations despite suffering massive damage, as evidenced by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; continuing effectiveness at defending the fleet years after the first Cylon attack and following several punishing engagements ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Computer systems===&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The original battlestar vessels deliberately avoided the use of networked primary computer systems during the [[Cylon War]], as [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces were adept at infiltrating and subverting such systems ([[Miniseries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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On &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, in the post-Cylon War era, these primary [[computers]] remained isolated by practice on order of its last pre-Holocaust commanding officer, [[William Adama]]. This no-networks practice saved &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; from the fate of its sister battlestars in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; no-network order meant that the [[CNP]], installed in almost all [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] vessels at the time, could not be used aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the CNP was designed for use with a computer network.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one dire instance in the early months of their exodus, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; networks its primary computers temporarily to aid in computation speeds for [[FTL|jump]] calculations needed to find the missing civilian Fleet ([[Scattered]]), but it is not without consequence. One or more computers are cracked during a Cylon attack with a Cylon [[Cylon computer virus|virus]], which proves resistant to removal and (weeks later) threatens the operation of the battlestar until the computers&#039; hard drives are erased and restored from pre-Fall backup sets ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Armament===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flakfield.jpg|thumb|right|The flak field from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; large turrets ([[Scattered]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*24 large antiship [[Battery|gun turrets]] (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;flak&amp;quot;&amp;gt;These are rail guns ([[Battlestar Galactica RPG]]) [[:Image:Guns Bottom.jpg|1]] and [[:Image:Guns Top.jpg|2]] mark the position of these guns, with 8 on the dorsal and 16 on the ventral hull (of which 8 are mounted on the bow). Note that 2 turrets on either side of the bow are partially obscured and not marked in image 1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the main hull and the ventral surface of the bow. The two guns on each turret fire in tandem. They have been shown to be quite effective against targets like [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]). These large guns are able to use both flak ammunition and high-explosive anti-capital ship shells. Additionally, the guns are able to engage in coordinated barrage strategies, such as salvo (and presumably, volley) fire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pointdefence2 101 1080i.jpg|thumb|right|Some of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;s&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; point defense turrets]]&lt;br /&gt;
*514 smaller point-defense turrets (mounting 2 guns apiece) &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Number of the guns on the [[:Image:Guns Side.jpg|CGI model by Zoic, does not account for dorsally mounted and ventrally mounted guns]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:These are mounted on the flight pods and other surfaces. Each barrel fires explosive rounds in bursts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Multiple nuclear warheads &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nukes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;As of the episode &amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; was equipped with five nuclear warheads. This may be lower than the typical number, since &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was in the process of being decommissioned and had already had most of its ammunition removed. If this is the case, we must conclude that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was unable to reload its supply of nuclear arms at [[Ragnar Anchorage]] (a sensible proposition, given the ease with which purported arms smuggler [[Leoben Conoy]] was able to gain access to the facility).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Deployed from 12 [[Missile tubes|launch tubes]] mounted in the main hull ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*Unknown number of [[Mass Packet]] Launchers (Important Editors note: The mention of this weapons technology is clearly mentioned by Admiral [[William Adama]] during the miniseries but is never mentioned again after the galactica runs out of this ammunition, however if I am incorrect please contact me as why. Thank you. [[User talk:StarbuckPegasus12|StarbuckPegasus12]].).  &lt;br /&gt;
*At least 4 squadrons of 20 [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] space superiority fighters &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vipers&amp;quot;&amp;gt;After the destruction of 20 Vipers during the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was still able to muster a 40-Viper strong defensive screen by combining their remaining squadron of Mk. VII Vipers with a full squadron of Mk. II Vipers from a museum exhibit in the starboard flight pod. This suggests that &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, with a single operational flight pod, was fielding two squadrons from it, and that when fully operational it could have fielded an additional two squadrons from the starboard pod.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Even the latest Mk. VII Vipers remain compatible with this class&#039;s launch and recovery facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous [[Raptor]] multi-role vehicles &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;raptors&amp;quot;&amp;gt;At the time of the Cylon attack, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; was apparently equipped with at least eight.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crew===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; crew complement prior to her scheduled decommissioning was approximately 2,800 &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;crew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;According to a [[crew tally]], &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is staffed by approximately 2,700 people at the time of its decommissioning. The full crew complement would be higher as has been indicated as roughly twice as high by some sources.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This figure is almost certainly higher for a fully staffed, operational battlestar.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Life support===&lt;br /&gt;
Approximately twelve oxygen recirculation units are mounted throughout the ship, which replenish oxygen as well as remove (&amp;quot;scrub&amp;quot;) carbon dioxide from the air. These devices work continuously ([[Final Cut]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Known Galactica type battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Named:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Columbia (RDM)#First Columbia|Columbia]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;[[Athena (battlestar)#Athena (battlestar)|Athena]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Unnamed:&lt;br /&gt;
**See: [[Unnamed battlestars]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Galactica Class Battlestar &amp;quot;Proof&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This image [http://acedmagazine.com/images/stories/battlestargalactica/battlestargalactica23.jpg] has been used as &#039;proof&#039; that Galactica is a galactica class battlestar. Tis image is not canical and thus canot be used to find the ships class.&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Blue Prints  of many ships in the fleet==&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_Blue_Prints&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;font-size:85%&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:A to Z]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Descriptive terms]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Battlestars|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Technology (RDM)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RDM]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Kampfstern, Galactica-Typ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Media:Example.ogg]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;This article discusses the religion of the Colonies as seen in the [[Re-imagined Series]]. For summary information on the Kobollian religion from the [[Original Series]], see [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (TOS)]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;For information on the various mythologies used in &#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039;, see [[Mythological references]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The dominant &#039;&#039;&#039;religion of the Twelve Colonies&#039;&#039;&#039;, which the various characters of &#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039; practice to greater or lesser extent, is a [[Wikipedia:polytheism|polytheistic]] faith&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Colonial deities are very similar to the [[Wikipedia:Greek mythology|Olympic gods]] of Greek mythology on the real-world Earth.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with a strong emphasis on the philosophy of [[Wikipedia:Eternal return|eternal return]]. There is a several variations of this faith practiced by different groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Origin==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pythia.jpg|right|thumb|A portion of the Sacred Scrolls, specifically, a portion of the Book of [[Pythia]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
The eternal return aspect between the peoples of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] and [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] suggest a parallel or reverse-origin with humanity as a whole or the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] that presumably populated it. See [[History of the Twelve Colonies]] for more analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the burial scene of the [[Miniseries]], [[William Adama]] states, &amp;quot;Life here began out there,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This phrase is a homage to the [[Original Series]], where each episode began with this phrase in a voice-over introduction.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot; reminding the assembly that this was the first line of the [[Sacred Scrolls]], the principle religious tome of the Colonial faith, told to them by the Lords Of Kobol many centuries ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Belief==&lt;br /&gt;
===The Lords of Kobol===&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial religion is centered on the Lords of Kobol. In the Re-imagined Series, ten Lords of Kobol have been positively identified: * [[Zeus]] - The leader of the lords. [[Tom Zarek]] has twice referred to [[William Adama|Bill Adama]] as &amp;quot;Zeus&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;[[Bastille Day]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[The Farm]]&amp;quot;, as a play on [[Lee Adama]]&#039;s callsign). * [[Aphrodite]] - The lorddess of love and sexuality. Kara Thrace prays often to this Lord ([[Flesh and Bone]]). * [[Apollo, Lord of Kobol|Apollo]] - Zeus&#039; son, said to be the lord of the hunt and of healing ([[Bastille Day]]). * [[Ares]] - The lord of war. The [[Nicholas Tyrol|infant son]] of [[Cally]] and [[Galen Tyrol]] is [[dedication ceremony|dedicated]] to this Lord of Kobol ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance, Episode 10]]). * [[Artemis]] - Twin sister of Apollo, lorddess of the hunt. [[Kara Thrace]] prays often to this lord ([[Flesh and Bone]]). * [[Asclepius]] - The lord of healing ([[Escape Velocity]]). * [[Athena, Lord of Kobol|Athena]] - This lord committed suicide &amp;quot;out of despair over the exodus of the thirteen tribes&amp;quot; ([[Home, Part II]]). Her [[Tomb of Athena|tomb]] holds a map to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]). * [[Aurora, Goddess of the Dawn]] ([[Maelstrom]])&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Aurora is the Roman counterpart of the Greek [[w:Eos|Eos]]. Eos is one of the [[w:Titans (mythology)|Titans]]. Since the Lords of Kobol are modeled after the [[w:Twelve Olympians|Twelve Olympians]] however, this could indicate that she is not one of the Lords, but belongs to another group of deities.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. * [[Hera, Lord of Kobol|Hera]] - Wife of Zeus. A [[Gates of Hera|mountain ridge]] on Kobol is named after her ([[Home, Part II]]), and the [[Hera Agathon|first Cylon/human hybrid child]] is named for this lord ([[Downloaded]]). * [[Poseidon]] - [[Gaius Baltar]] mentions this deity in a conversation with [[Tracey Anne]] ([[He That Believeth In Me]]). Deckhand [[Brooks (RDM)|Brooks]] also prays to this lord. ([[The Face of the Enemy]]) The Colonials appear to use multiple names for their lords, interchanging &amp;quot;Mars&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;Ares&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Jupiter&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;Zeus&amp;quot;, and so on.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Curiously, [[Laura Roslin]] mentions that the 134th day of the Cylon occupation of [[New Caprica]] is Mars Day ([[Occupation]]), suggesting that Ares may also be called by his alternate Roman pantheon&#039;s name. The same happens again in &amp;quot;[[The Passage]]&amp;quot; when Zeus is referred to by the name of his Roman counterpart Jupiter.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Afterlife====&lt;br /&gt;
Believers think that they will go to [[Fields of Elysium]] after death if they led a good life ([[Faith]]). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This is clearly a direct parallel to the ancient Greek [[w:Elysium|Elysian Fields]], the part of the [[w:Hades|underworld]] corresponding to &amp;quot;heaven&amp;quot;. The visual image of a ferry crossing a river also parallels the river [[w:Styx|Styx]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Paradise Lost ====&lt;br /&gt;
According to the [[Sacred Scrolls]], the gods once shared a paradise-like existence with the people of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]. Later circumstances forced the exodus of the human population of Kobol to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|the Twelve Colonies]] and [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]], and lead to Athena&#039;s suicide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of the Lords of Kobol is attested to by the survival of numerous artifacts, including the [[Arrow of Apollo]], the [[Tomb of Athena]] and the [[Gates of Hera]]. However, although she accepts their historic authenticity, [[Sharon Agathon|Caprica-Valerii]], a [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]], questions their actual divinity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There is a notion in fan circles that there are twelve lords of Kobol, by analogy to the twelve Cylon models, twelve Colonies, and perhaps the [[w:Twelve Olympians|Twelve Olympians]] of Greek mythology. A post from [[Ron D. Moore]]&#039;s blog [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/03/index.html#a000023 on March 12, 2005]  loosely alludes on this coincidence, but further official sourcing has not been revealed.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====The Jealous God====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Elosha]] states that the exodus from Kobol was precipitated when &amp;quot;one jealous god began to desire that he be elevated above all the other gods, and the war on Kobol began.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;From a [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 2 (RDM)#Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I|deleted scene]] cut from the episode &amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This figure may be related to or identical with &amp;quot;[[The One Whose Name Cannot Be Spoken|the one whose name cannot be spoken]]&amp;quot;, whose [[Temple of Five|temple]] is discovered in &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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====The Path of Olympus====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tom Zarek]] conveys to [[Laura Roslin]] and her [[Laura Roslin faction|followers]] the news that Commander [[William Adama]] had resumed command of &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; after the attempt on his life by saying: &amp;quot;Zeus has returned to &#039;&#039;&#039;Olympus&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; ([[The Farm]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In Greek mythology, the home of the gods on Earth resided high atop Greece&#039;s highest mountain, Mount Olympus, at a time where access to the mountain summit would be almost impossible with the inhabitants&#039; technology of that age.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; By Zarek&#039;s comment we can infer that Colonial religion appears to acknowledge the existence of a place called Olympus. It cannot yet be determined, however, if Olympus was thought of as the residence of the gods at a specific physical or &#039;&#039;metaphysical&#039;&#039; location of Kobol, as there has been no mention of Olympus elsewhere in the series. If Olympus is a metaphysical locale, this may contradict [[Elosha]]&#039;s comment that the gods and man lived on Kobol together in harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other Mythological Names in Colonial Culture===&lt;br /&gt;
Various items have been identified which are apparently named after other gods and legendary figures of their faith, although these have not been explicitly identified as Lords of Kobol.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Cycle of Time===&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In a short talk he gave before a screening of &amp;quot;[[Flesh and Bone]]&amp;quot;, Ron Moore revealed that he &amp;quot;stole&amp;quot; the line from the introduction of the Disney animated version of &#039;&#039;[[w:Peter Pan|Peter Pan]]&#039;&#039; (lecture [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9op6PC03LRA part 1] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w-9NglSNG0 part 2]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to [[Gaius Baltar]], this line from the [[Pythia]]n prophecy is very well known ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]). [[Laura Roslin]] later expands on it, reminding [[Kara Thrace]],&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;If you believe in the gods, then you believe in the cycle of time that we are all playing our parts in a story that is told again, and again, and again throughout eternity&amp;quot; ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Various events throughout the series have led some characters to believe that they are playing out another turn of this cycle&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The notion of a circular progression of time (also known as [[w:eternal return|eternal return]] or eternal recurrence) is a common theme in other faiths, particularly [[w:Maya#Religion|Mayan]] mythology and is a cornerstone of the Hindu and Buddhist faiths. Moreover, [[w:Stoic|Stoic]] philosophy did believe in the concept of &#039;&#039;ekpyrosis&#039;&#039;, the fire which consumes the old world and signals the birth of a new world, identical to the old, for a recurring cycle of birth, death and rebirth.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. (see [[Sacred Scrolls]] for more detailed analysis).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sanctity of Life===&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Sacred Scrolls, abortion is &amp;quot;an abomination in the eyes of the Gods&amp;quot;. The more fundamentalist [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Gemenon|Gemenese]] strictly adhere to this commandment, however the more secular Colonies such as Caprica apparently do not follow this as strictly: officially, Colonies-wide Federal law guaranteed a woman the right to an abortion, at least at the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Individual Practice==&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonials display a wide spectrum of religious practice, ranging from [[Billy Keikeya]]&#039;s atheism ([[Home, Part II]], [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 2 (RDM)#Home, Part II|cut scene]]) to Corporal [[Venner]]&#039;s literalistic readings of the Sacred Scrolls.&lt;br /&gt;
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While not fully explained in the Re-imagined Series, it appears, based on the information from a [[dedication ceremony]] for [[Nicholas Tyrol]] and the prayers of [[Kara Thrace]], that each Colonial is paired, or &amp;quot;placed in the service&amp;quot; with one or more of the Lords. Based on the dedication ceremony blessing, Zeus is a considered &amp;quot;almighty&amp;quot; or foremost of the gods, while other Lords are prayed to by Colonials as a proxy to Zeus.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This practice is similar to a Catholic practice of prayer to Mary, mother of Jesus. While Mary is a human, followers believe that, by praying to Mary, she can intercede to aid the acceptance of the prayer by the [[w:Trinity|Trinity]], the godhead of the Catholic faith.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Artifacts===&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite Gemenon&#039;s fundamentalist climate, the city of [[Delphi]] on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] was apparently of a mind to store an important religious artifact, the [[Arrow of Apollo]], in a [[Delphi Museum of the Colonies|museum]], rather than a devotional institution ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Ancient temples may be also be the repository of special artifacts such as the [[Eye of Jupiter]], believed to be stored inside the legendary [[Temple of Five]] (&amp;quot;[[Rapture]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dress===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Season 3 - Promo - Epi 1 - 2 - Oracle Selloi.jpg|right|thumb|200px|The robes of [[Dodona Selloi]] ([[Exodus, Part I]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
As seen by the various [[Laura Roslin faction|separatists]] orbiting Kobol in &amp;quot;[[Home, Part I]]&amp;quot;, it appears that many Colonials have clothing that suggests a religious deference. In the scene, one older, white-bearded gentleman is dressed in simple colored robes and a round, flat head covering&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;These robes may remind viewers of the tradition dress of Hasidic Jews, Islamic clerics, or Eastern Orthodox clerics of the real-world Earth.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Other distinctive dress styles of other characters in the scene increase the sense of the dedication of religion in the Gemenese people (which appear to comprise the majority of Roslin&#039;s separatists).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[oracle]] [[Dodona Selloi]] dresses in a turban and robes, suggesting a special role in Colonial society or its religious hierarchy ([[Exodus, Part I]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Idols===&lt;br /&gt;
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At the end of the episode &amp;quot;[[Flesh and Bone]]&amp;quot;, Kara Thrace, a devotee of Artemis and Aphrodite (as stated by [[Leoben Conoy]] in the same episode), prays to them on Conoy&#039;s behalf using figurines that bear a similarity to classic representations of Artemis and Athena. Artemis is depicted with her bow and arrow, and Athena with her helmet of war.&lt;br /&gt;
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When visting the oracle [[Yolanda Brenn]], Thrace receives a figurine of the goddess [[Aurora, Goddess of the Dawn|Aurora]] as a gift ([[Maelstrom]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Prayer===&lt;br /&gt;
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Some prisoners on the &#039;&#039;[[Astral Queen]]&#039;&#039; seeking rehabilitation have turned to group prayer.&lt;br /&gt;
They greet Laura Roslin as a prophet and she provides them with a blessing ([[The Farm]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Priest [[Elosha]] sings a group prayer in a [[Service for the dead]] after the Fleet escapes from the initial Cylon attack ([[Miniseries]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The language she sings is [[w:Sanskrit|Sanskrit]], a classical language of real-world Earth&#039;s Hindu/Indian peoples. More about the verses that she sings and their meaning can be found in the [[Language in the Twelve Colonies#Liturgy|Language in the Twelve Colonies]] article.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The priest also gives a prayer after &#039;&#039;[[Colonial One]]&#039;&#039; is boarded by Commander Adama&#039;s troops to remove Roslin from power ([[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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A chaplain delivered a simple prayer at the funeral of [[Zak Adama]], two years prior to the fall of the Colonies ([[Act of Contrition]])&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The prayer&#039;s mention of committing a &amp;quot;body to the ground from which we were all made&amp;quot; echoes the Biblical passage of [http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis3.htm Genesis 3:19]:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;By the sweat of your brow&lt;br /&gt;
:you will eat your food&lt;br /&gt;
:until you return to the ground,&lt;br /&gt;
:since from it you were taken;&lt;br /&gt;
:for dust you are&lt;br /&gt;
:and to dust you will return.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;The burdens of this life are with us but a short time. For Lieutenant Zak Adama, son of [[William Adama|William]] and [[Carolanne Adama]], brother of [[Lee Adama|Lee]], the time was too short, but we take comfort in knowing his life was willingly given in service to all of us. We honor them for that. And thus, it falls upon us to repent our sins and with the help of the Lords of Kobol, make our own lives worthy of that gift. And now, we commit his body to the ground from which we were all made.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Corporal [[Venner]] asks [[Laura Roslin]] to join him in a simple prayer while &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; is attacked as it desperately tries to find its Fleet ([[Scattered]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;(To Roslin:)&#039;&#039; Will you pray with me? &#039;&#039;(He begins:)&#039;&#039; Help us, Lords of Kobol. Help your prophet Laura guide us to the path of righteousness. That we might-- that we might destroy our enemies. Let us walk the path of righteousness and lift our faces unto your goodness. Help us turn away from the calls of the wicked and show us the knowledge of your certain salvation. We offer this prayer.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Prayer is also seen in the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|Season 3 webisode series]] in a temple (where prayers are written and then burned before an idol), and by [[Kara Thrace]] ([[Miniseries]], &amp;quot;[[Flesh and Bone]]&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rosaries===&lt;br /&gt;
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As [[Laura Roslin]] begins to suffer from [[chamalla]] withdrawal in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s brig, Corporal Venner, a [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Gemenon|Gemenese]], anxiously clutches a set of white prayer beads ([[Fragged]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Temple]]===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Resistance - Webisode 4.jpg|thumb|[[Nora Farmer|Nora]] and [[Cally Tyrol]] pray in a temple on [[New Caprica]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance#Episode 4|Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance - Episode 4]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Temples may have been more elaborate places on the Twelve Colonies, but the spaceborne remnants of humanity presumably use any space they can find on their ships to form a basic temple. As seen on [[New Caprica]], a basic temple may consist of a simple altar with candles, idols of the Lords of Kobol, and what meager offerings the Colonials can give as a [[w:tithe|tithe]]. Some prayers are written on paper and burned ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The temple on New Caprica was known as the Temple of Artemis ([[Collaborators]]), suggesting that temples are dedicated to a Lord or Lords, and may be related to the pairing of Colonials to a specific set of Lords at their dedication ceremony.&lt;br /&gt;
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A similar arrangement to temple is found in an [[Yolanda Brenn|oracle camp]] ([[Maelstrom]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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A room used for religious services on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]&#039;&#039; is referred to as a temple ([[Escape Velocity]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sagittaron beliefs===&lt;br /&gt;
Orthodox [[Sagittaron#Culture|Sagittaron beliefs]] are more anachronistic than the Gemenese&#039;s, believing that the mind and body are myths, and that medicine is &amp;quot;an abomination, a sin against the Gods&amp;quot;. Sagittarons also blame physicians for the spread of disease due to their ignorance of the aforementioned &amp;quot;myth&amp;quot; of the body and mind. They traditionally do not believe in violence, even to the point of not aiding the [[New Caprica Resistance]] in their fight against the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] occupation of [[New Caprica]] ([[The Woman King]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other minority beliefs===&lt;br /&gt;
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A small minority of the Colonials were secretly [[God (RDM)|monothiests]]. While it is not clear if such worship was still in practice in modern Colonial times up to the Cylon holocaust, an [[Temple of Five|unusual temple]] found on a [[Algae planet|remote planet]] suggests that monotheism was prevalent in the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Second Exodus]], [[Gaius Baltar]] later founds a monotheistic cult which finds itself in conflict with the established faiths. Baltar&#039;s faith comes into direct, violent conflict with the [[Sons of Ares]] as well as the general Colonial polythiests.  [[Mithraism]] is also noted in practice ([[Escape Velocity]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Clergy==&lt;br /&gt;
The religious and government bodies of the Twelve Colonies work together. This association is likely based on the religious homogeneity of the Colonies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This differs from the United States, whose government is based on religious tolerance through the separation of religious practice and legislature. While the real-world Earth has many, many religions, the Twelve Colonies, as yet, appear to have only one religion and as such does not suffer greatly from schisms or other religious factions, although colonists such as the Gemenese show a different emphasis on how they interpret the religious writings.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Priests===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Season 3 - Promo - Collaborators - Priest.jpg|right|thumb|A male [[Unnamed characters (RDM)#Priest|priest]]. ([[Collaborators]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Elosha1.jpg|thumb|left|Elosha, priest and friend of President Roslin. ([[Home, Part I]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Laura Roslin]] [[Case Orange|is sworn into the presidency]] by a &#039;&#039;priest&#039;&#039;, [[Elosha]], who continues on in an advisory capacity within Roslin&#039;s administration.&lt;br /&gt;
Priests also preside over military funerals, without regard for the beliefs of the deceased.&lt;br /&gt;
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Priests in the Twelve Colonies are apparently not required to practice celibacy, and can be male or female. Chief [[Galen Tyrol]] states that his father was a priest and his mother an oracle ([[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Galen Tyrol&#039;s information may be skewed by the revelation that he himself is a Cylon ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to [[Billy Keikeya]], some priests use [[chamalla]] for its hallucinogenic properties. The prescient dreams it imparted to Laura Roslin may imply the use of something similar by [[Pythia]], an ancient prophet. [[Oracle]]s also use the drug.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Brothers===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cyca2.jpg|left|thumb|The false Brother [[Cavil]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
The term &#039;&#039;Brother&#039;&#039; is used as a title for male members of the clergy, although it is not fully apparent whether this role is similar to that of a [[w:Monk|monk]] or [[w:Deacon|deacon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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As with priests, a brother offers consultation and leads prayer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only instance of this clergy is Brother [[Cavil]], who offers guidance to Chief Tyrol.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cavil, however, is revealed as a [[humanoid Cylon]] some time later. Because of Cavil&#039;s nature, there may be doubt as to whether Cavil is a useful example of the work of a Brother in Colonial religion.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is probable that Brothers are lay clergy (unlike priests and oracles, who appear to have political status as well as their religious status).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sisters===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tivenan.jpg|right|thumb|Sister Tivenan (right) at a [[dedication ceremony]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance: Episode 10]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
As with Brothers in the clergy, there are &#039;&#039;Sisters&#039;&#039; as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sister [[Tivenan]] is briefly seen tending to business in the temple on [[New Caprica]], guiding prayer and officiating a [[dedication ceremony]] for the [[Nicholas Tyrol|newborn son]] of [[Galen Tyrol|Galen]] and [[Cally Tyrol]] ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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It is probable that Sisters, like Brothers, are lay clergy.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oracles===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mainarticle|Oracle}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Season 3 - Promo - Epi 1 - 2 - Oracle Selloi.jpg|left|thumb|The oracle [[Dodona Selloi]] ([[Exodus, Part I]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S3 oraclebrenn low.jpg|right|thumb|The oracle [[Yolanda Brenn]] ([[Maelstrom]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
There is little information as to the religious functions of &#039;&#039;oracles&#039;&#039;. [[Dodona Selloi]] is one of two oracles seen in the Re-imagined Series. She confirms the dreams of a copy of [[Number Three]] and the existence of [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]. It is not clear if Selloi is sitting in a tent designated as a temple, but there are numerous ornate or curious inscriptions surrounding and inside her tent that suggest the significance of the oracle&#039;s tent or her presence. A second oracle, [[Yolanda Brenn]], gives counsel to [[Kara Thrace]] on her strange dreams aboard &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; ([[Maelstrom]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Priests and oracles may assume their roles due to an personal, possibly inherited affinity to sense spiritual changes or conditions. [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Final Five|believed to be the son of a priest and oracle]], detects the presence of and finds the [[Temple of Five]] alone, based only on his senses, apparently detecting the hidden temple on the otherwise-unremarkable (and undocumented) [[algae planet]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== A Cylon Connection ==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Cylon Religion]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;See Also: [[The Destiny]], [[Final Five]], [[Temple of Five]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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While humanoid Cylons show a strict, firm belief in a monotheistic [[God (RDM)|God]], referring to the Lords of Kobol as &amp;quot;false idols,&amp;quot; a connection between the Cylon God and the Lords of Kobol may exist. In &amp;quot;[[Exodus, Part I]]&amp;quot;, an [[Selloi|oracle]] tells [[Number Three]] (who has a &#039;&#039;dream&#039;&#039; of the oracle&#039;s tent and of holding the believed-dead hybrid child [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]) that she has a message from the one that Number Three worships. This poses the question how an oracle of the Lords of Kobol be able to hear the messages of the Cylon God.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Kobollian god(s) was separated from the others (per a deleted scene about a [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Jealous God|jealous god]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Temple of Five]], which a [[Number Three]] uses to visualize the identities of the [[Final Five]]) was not built for the Cylons (who were not created until 4,000 years later) but for humans. The Temple, according to the Sacred Scrolls, was built for five priests who worshiped &amp;quot;[[The One Whose Name Cannot Be Spoken]]&amp;quot;. It is not clear if this was the spurned &amp;quot;jealous god&amp;quot; or another fallen member of the Lords of Kobol. No further information on the connection between the Cylon and Colonial religions in regards to the Temple of Five is revealed as of the end of Season 3.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;While the notion of a fallen Lord is speculative in the Re-imagined Series, there is already a parallel series of characters from the [[Original Series]]: The [[Beings of Light]] and their fallen member, [[Iblis]]. [[Ron D. Moore]], however, has stated in several interviews that he was not planning to use this Original Series concept in the Re-imagined Series.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Kara Thrace]] realizes her [[The Destiny|destiny]], first from the words of a [[Leoben Conoy]] model, and later, in a type of dream, through a [[Virtual Leoben|entity that took the likeness of Leoben]], but was not a Cylon. From death, Thrace [[Crossroads, Part II|returns]] to the Fleet, not as an illusion, but resurrected -- something that, prior to Thrace, only a humanoid Cylon could do.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Battle of the Resurrection Ship</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Battle Data&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Ep212battle.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|description=Galactica and Pegasus engage a basestar&lt;br /&gt;
|conflict=[[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon war]]&lt;br /&gt;
|date=[[Timeline (RDM)|6 months]] after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], approximately less than 48 hours after events of &amp;quot;[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|place=Interstellar space, specific location unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|result=Destruction of Cylon [[Resurrection Ship]], decisive Colonial victory&lt;br /&gt;
|combatant1=Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] &lt;br /&gt;
|combatant2=[[Cylon]]s&lt;br /&gt;
|co1=Admiral [[Helena Cain]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Commander [[William Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
|co2=[[Basestar command]] †&lt;br /&gt;
|strength1=[[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;[[Mercury-class Battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
120-130 Vipers, 1 [[Blackbird]], 30-40 [[Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
|strength2= 1 Cylon battlefleet (The [[Resurrection Ship]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; 2 Cylon basestars&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; 12 support ships, approx 2000 [[Raider]]s, around 200 [[Heavy Raider]]s) &lt;br /&gt;
|shiploss1= The [[Blackbird]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; At least 1 [[Raptor]]&lt;br /&gt;
|shiploss2=1-2 [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; A [[Resurrection Ship]]&lt;br /&gt;
|casualties1=4 &lt;br /&gt;
|casualties2=10,000+&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=[[Standoff Between Galactica and Pegasus]]&lt;br /&gt;
|next=[[Battle of the Binary Star System]]&lt;br /&gt;
|series=RDM&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Battle of the Resurrection Ship&#039;&#039;&#039; is &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s second offensive against the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. Aided by a [[Pegasus (RDM)|second battlestar]], they attack the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[Resurrection Ship]] in the hopes of causing the Cylons to rethink their plans for chasing [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Background ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When the battlestar &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; reunites with the larger remnant of [[The Fleet (RDM)|humanity]] led by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, its commanding officer, Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] reveals that &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had been tracking a Cylon fleet, and upon reviewing &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s logs surmises that this same Cylon fleet had been following &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], possibly for months.  Earlier long-range reconnaissance missions by &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; revealed that the Cylon fleet consisted of two basestars, roughly a dozen support ships, and one unidentifiable vessel, much larger than a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]], which the Cylon fleet appeared to be protecting.  Admiral Cain and Commander [[William Adama]] realize the probable value of the ship to the Cylons, and begin planning an operation to pool their resources to attack the Cylon fleet.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] returns from an illicit recon mission to the Cylon fleet, using the [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter to take dramatically detailed photos of the unknown ship. The name of the ship, the [[Resurrection Ship]], is discovered by Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] through the captive Cylon [[Gina Inviere]]. Thrace, Admiral Cain and Commander Adama determine that the Resurrection Ship was a safety net for the Cylons chasing the Fleet and [[Humanoid Cylon|hiding within it]].  With this safety net removed, the Cylons would seriously reconsider pursuing the Fleet as closely. If a Cylon&#039;s body were to die without another body to [[Resurrection (RDM)|store their transmitted consciousness]], not only would the Cylons lose vital intelligence on Fleet operations, but the Cylon&#039;s consciousness would be permanently lost.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Battle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;&#039; new [[CAG]] Captain Thrace taps [[The Hand of God (RDM)|once more]] into her unconventional military thinking in formulating an effective attack plan, which will draw the Cylons to the battlestars and a trap, rather than the other way around. In the plan, the Fleet, consisting only of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her original civilian ships, would congregate near a handful of ships that appeared to be managing mining operations. When the Cylons engaged, the Fleet would jump away, but a few civilian ships would pretend to have problems engaging their FTL drives and attempt to escape at sublight speeds, drawing the Raiders far away from their basestars.  Just before the Raiders would close in, the remaining decoy civilian ships would jump away.  Moments later, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; will jump to within firing range of both basestars and engage them head-on.  Meanwhile, Lieutenant [[Lee Adama|Lee &amp;quot;Apollo&amp;quot; Adama]] uses the [[Blackbird]] to sneak up upon the Resurrection Ship to surgically destroy its [[FTL]] drive with a missile to prevent its escape, while the entire complement of fighters from both battlestars, led by Thrace, would pummel the Resurrection Ship and destroy it ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).  &lt;br /&gt;
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The attack plan is successfully implemented with minimal losses on the Colonial side. Without their fighter complements and with no gun batteries of their own, the basestars are no match for the combined gun batteries of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, which tear through the basestars, destroying one and crippling (probably destroying) the other.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moments after disabling the Resurrection Ship&#039;s FTL drive, the Blackbird collides with a downed [[Raptor]] after Adama&#039;s attack, destroying the fragile stealth fighter. Lee Adama manages to eject and, in the process, suffers a puncture in his [[flight suit]].  Apollo drifts freely in the middle of space, viewing the battle from a unique angle as he begins to succumb to [[Wikipedia:hypoxia|hypoxia]].  He is rescued by [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]]&#039;s [[SAR]] [[Raptor]] from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly after the destruction of the Resurrection Ship and at least one basestar, the surviving Cylon forces jump away, marking a significant Colonial victory ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Strategic impact==&lt;br /&gt;
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The strategic impact of the Battle of the Resurrection Ship marked the first time since the beginning of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Second Cylon War]] that multiple Colonial battlestars engaged multiple Cylon basestars in battle.  The Fall of the Twelve Colonies had been less a battle and more a one-sided slaughter of the Colonials by the Cylons.  The ensuing attempts by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to beat off the Cylons chasing the civilian refugee fleet it was shepherding and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; hit-and-run guerrilla attacks on Cylon assets had never reached the level of decisively defeating a major Cylon fleet and forcing them from the battlefield (&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s previous [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|destruction of a basestar]] was the result of sneaking a nuke inside through subterfuge, and not open combat).  &lt;br /&gt;
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Following this defeat to the Colonial Fleet, the Cylons lose the combat initiative they had maintained since their opening attack six months previously.  After this battle, the Cylons became afraid to commit their forces to major strikes, and stop attacking the Fleet &#039;&#039;en masse&#039;&#039;.  While before, a single basestar would confidently Jump in and wade into &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her air wing (as in the second half of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]]), the Cylons are aware that such an attack now would result in their &#039;&#039;permanent&#039;&#039; deaths, and for a time stop actively chasing the Fleet for months following the destruction of the Resurrection Ship.  The entire Cylon strategy in the war changes.  Instead of constantly trying to destroy the entire [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] guarded by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, the Cylons focused on smaller, low-risk goals, achieved by hit-and-run attacks on targets of opportunity.  For a full month, while the Colonials conduct mining operations in an asteroid belt, a squadron of Cylon Raiders, including the ace Raider nicknamed [[Scar (Raider)|Scar]], wreaks havoc on the Colonial&#039;s Viper squadrons using hit-and-run strikes. Even two months after the battle, in the [[Battle of the Binary Star System]], the Cylons resort to a trap and disproportionate numbers rather than trying to directly engage the Colonial Fleet as they had in the past ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* The Battle of the Resurrection Ship has many similarities to the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Midway|Battle of Midway]].  In both, the strategic tide of the war changed with a decisive battle.  At Midway, the Japanese fleet was caught off guard when the USS &#039;&#039;Yorktown&#039;&#039;, which they had presumed was destroyed or crippled, appeared during the battle and increased the forces available to the Americans.  In this battle, the Cylons were surprised by the appearance of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, long presumed destroyed in the initial Cylon attack, appeared and doubled the forces available to the Colonials.  Finally, Apollo&#039;s experience of ejecting in the middle of the battle and watching it unfold around him is based on the real life experience of Ensign [[Wikipedia:George H. Gay, Jr.|George Gay]] during the Battle of Midway.  George Gay&#039;s plane was shot down and he witnessed the entire battle while floating in the ocean.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Battle of the Resurrection Ship did change Cylon tactics for a time, until the Cylons discover the new human colony on [[New Caprica]], arriving in force, complete with a &#039;&#039;second&#039;&#039; Resurrection Ship ([[Torn]]). &lt;br /&gt;
*A similar battle occurs two years later where the Rebel Basestar, supplemented by forces from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, attacks the Cylon [[Resurrection Hub]] and destroys it with nukes from Vipers. Once again the Cylons lose the ability to resurrect but this time permanently.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Colonial battles chronology (RDM)</title>
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This is a chronological list of battles in the Re-imagined Series. Dates in the timeline are approximates and drawn from its [[Timeline (RDM)|series timeline]].&lt;br /&gt;
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!Battle          !! Timeline                               !! Episode(s)&lt;br /&gt;
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| class=&amp;quot;infoboxheader&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;First [[Cylon War]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Operation Raptor Talon]]                   || Day 4,751 of the Cylon War || [[Razor Flashbacks]]&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Battle of Tauron]]                         ||concurrent with &amp;quot;Operation Raptor Talon&amp;quot; || &amp;quot;[[Razor]]&amp;quot;, extended version&lt;br /&gt;
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| class=&amp;quot;infoboxheader&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;Cylon attack on the Twelve Colonies&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]		||Zero Hour 			||[[Miniseries]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]]	||Zero Hour			||&amp;quot;[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage]]			||Day 1				||Miniseries&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of the Communications Relay]]         ||&#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;: c. Day 7         ||&amp;quot;Pegasus&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;infoboxheader&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;Escape from the Cylons&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Skirmish over the Red Moon]]			||Day 14			||&amp;quot;[[Act of Contrition]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]]		||Day 36			||&amp;quot;[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]]	||Day 50			||&amp;quot;[[Kobol&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part I]]&amp;quot; through &amp;quot;[[Fragged]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Great Cylon Turkey Shoot]]			||&#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;: c. Day 100	||&amp;quot;[[Flight of the Phoenix]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]]		||Day 177			||&amp;quot;[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of the Binary Star System]]		||Day 240			||&amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of the Guardian basestar]]            ||&#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;; between events of &amp;quot;[[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]&amp;quot;  ||&amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of New Caprica]]			||c. Day 800			||&amp;quot;[[Exodus, Part II]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Battle of NCD2539]]				||&#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;: c. Day 817	||&amp;quot;[[A Measure of Salvation]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Battle of the Algae Planet]]			||&#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;: c. Day 853	||&amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Battle of the Ionian Nebula]]               ||&#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;                       ||&amp;quot;[[Crossroads, Part II]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[He That Believeth In Me]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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| class=&amp;quot;infoboxheader&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Cylon Civil War]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Cylon Civil War#First Blood|Ambush on Cylon rebels]]    || &#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;, approx. 3 years   || &amp;quot;[[The Ties That Bind]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Battle of the Resurrection Hub]]                                    || &#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;, approx. 3 years   || &amp;quot;[[The Hub]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Sine Qua Non]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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| class=&amp;quot;infoboxheader&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;Internal Battles&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Standoff Between Galactica and Pegasus]]	||&#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;: c. Day 174	||&amp;quot;Pegasus&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Gaeta&#039;s Mutiny]]                                    || &#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;, approx. 4 years   || &amp;quot;[[The Oath]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Blood on the Scales]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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| class=&amp;quot;infoboxheader&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;&#039;Final Conflict&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Battle of the Colony]]                             || &#039;&#039;unknown&#039;&#039;, approx. 4 years   || &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part I]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part II]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_the_Resurrection_Ship&amp;diff=179911</id>
		<title>Battle of the Resurrection Ship</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Battle Data&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Ep212battle.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|description=Galactica and Pegasus engage a basestar&lt;br /&gt;
|conflict=[[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon war]]&lt;br /&gt;
|date=[[Timeline (RDM)|6 months]] after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], approximately less than 48 hours after events of &amp;quot;[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|place=Interstellar space, specific location unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|result=Destruction of Cylon [[Resurrection Ship]], decisive Colonial victory&lt;br /&gt;
|combatant1=Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] &lt;br /&gt;
|combatant2=[[Cylon]]s&lt;br /&gt;
|co1=Admiral [[Helena Cain]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Commander [[William Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
|co2=[[Basestar command]] †&lt;br /&gt;
|strength1=[[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;[[Mercury-class Battlestar|battlestar]] &#039;&#039;[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
120-130 Vipers, 1 [[Blackbird]], 30-40 [[Raptors]]&lt;br /&gt;
|strength2= 1 Cylon battlefleet (The [[Resurrection Ship]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; 2 Cylon basestars&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; 15 support ships, approx 2000 [[Raider]]s, around 200 [[Heavy Raider]]s) &lt;br /&gt;
|shiploss1= The [[Blackbird]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; At least 1 [[Raptor]]&lt;br /&gt;
|shiploss2=1-2 [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; A [[Resurrection Ship]]&lt;br /&gt;
|casualties1=4 &lt;br /&gt;
|casualties2=10,000+&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=[[Standoff Between Galactica and Pegasus]]&lt;br /&gt;
|next=[[Battle of the Binary Star System]]&lt;br /&gt;
|series=RDM&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Battle of the Resurrection Ship&#039;&#039;&#039; is &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s second offensive against the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. Aided by a [[Pegasus (RDM)|second battlestar]], they attack the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[Resurrection Ship]] in the hopes of causing the Cylons to rethink their plans for chasing [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Background ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When the battlestar &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; reunites with the larger remnant of [[The Fleet (RDM)|humanity]] led by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, its commanding officer, Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]] reveals that &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had been tracking a Cylon fleet, and upon reviewing &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s logs surmises that this same Cylon fleet had been following &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], possibly for months.  Earlier long-range reconnaissance missions by &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; revealed that the Cylon fleet consisted of two basestars, roughly a dozen support ships, and one unidentifiable vessel, much larger than a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]], which the Cylon fleet appeared to be protecting.  Admiral Cain and Commander [[William Adama]] realize the probable value of the ship to the Cylons, and begin planning an operation to pool their resources to attack the Cylon fleet.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] returns from an illicit recon mission to the Cylon fleet, using the [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter to take dramatically detailed photos of the unknown ship. The name of the ship, the [[Resurrection Ship]], is discovered by Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]] through the captive Cylon [[Gina Inviere]]. Thrace, Admiral Cain and Commander Adama determine that the Resurrection Ship was a safety net for the Cylons chasing the Fleet and [[Humanoid Cylon|hiding within it]].  With this safety net removed, the Cylons would seriously reconsider pursuing the Fleet as closely. If a Cylon&#039;s body were to die without another body to [[Resurrection (RDM)|store their transmitted consciousness]], not only would the Cylons lose vital intelligence on Fleet operations, but the Cylon&#039;s consciousness would be permanently lost.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Battle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;&#039; new [[CAG]] Captain Thrace taps [[The Hand of God (RDM)|once more]] into her unconventional military thinking in formulating an effective attack plan, which will draw the Cylons to the battlestars and a trap, rather than the other way around. In the plan, the Fleet, consisting only of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her original civilian ships, would congregate near a handful of ships that appeared to be managing mining operations. When the Cylons engaged, the Fleet would jump away, but a few civilian ships would pretend to have problems engaging their FTL drives and attempt to escape at sublight speeds, drawing the Raiders far away from their basestars.  Just before the Raiders would close in, the remaining decoy civilian ships would jump away.  Moments later, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; will jump to within firing range of both basestars and engage them head-on.  Meanwhile, Lieutenant [[Lee Adama|Lee &amp;quot;Apollo&amp;quot; Adama]] uses the [[Blackbird]] to sneak up upon the Resurrection Ship to surgically destroy its [[FTL]] drive with a missile to prevent its escape, while the entire complement of fighters from both battlestars, led by Thrace, would pummel the Resurrection Ship and destroy it ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).  &lt;br /&gt;
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The attack plan is successfully implemented with minimal losses on the Colonial side. Without their fighter complements and with no gun batteries of their own, the basestars are no match for the combined gun batteries of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, which tear through the basestars, destroying one and crippling (probably destroying) the other.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moments after disabling the Resurrection Ship&#039;s FTL drive, the Blackbird collides with a downed [[Raptor]] after Adama&#039;s attack, destroying the fragile stealth fighter. Lee Adama manages to eject and, in the process, suffers a puncture in his [[flight suit]].  Apollo drifts freely in the middle of space, viewing the battle from a unique angle as he begins to succumb to [[Wikipedia:hypoxia|hypoxia]].  He is rescued by [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]]&#039;s [[SAR]] [[Raptor]] from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly after the destruction of the Resurrection Ship and at least one basestar, the surviving Cylon forces jump away, marking a significant Colonial victory ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Strategic impact==&lt;br /&gt;
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The strategic impact of the Battle of the Resurrection Ship marked the first time since the beginning of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Second Cylon War]] that multiple Colonial battlestars engaged multiple Cylon basestars in battle.  The Fall of the Twelve Colonies had been less a battle and more a one-sided slaughter of the Colonials by the Cylons.  The ensuing attempts by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; to beat off the Cylons chasing the civilian refugee fleet it was shepherding and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; hit-and-run guerrilla attacks on Cylon assets had never reached the level of decisively defeating a major Cylon fleet and forcing them from the battlefield (&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s previous [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|destruction of a basestar]] was the result of sneaking a nuke inside through subterfuge, and not open combat).  &lt;br /&gt;
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Following this defeat to the Colonial Fleet, the Cylons lose the combat initiative they had maintained since their opening attack six months previously.  After this battle, the Cylons became afraid to commit their forces to major strikes, and stop attacking the Fleet &#039;&#039;en masse&#039;&#039;.  While before, a single basestar would confidently Jump in and wade into &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her air wing (as in the second half of the [[Battle of Kobol (RDM)|Battle of Kobol]]), the Cylons are aware that such an attack now would result in their &#039;&#039;permanent&#039;&#039; deaths, and for a time stop actively chasing the Fleet for months following the destruction of the Resurrection Ship.  The entire Cylon strategy in the war changes.  Instead of constantly trying to destroy the entire [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] guarded by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, the Cylons focused on smaller, low-risk goals, achieved by hit-and-run attacks on targets of opportunity.  For a full month, while the Colonials conduct mining operations in an asteroid belt, a squadron of Cylon Raiders, including the ace Raider nicknamed [[Scar (Raider)|Scar]], wreaks havoc on the Colonial&#039;s Viper squadrons using hit-and-run strikes. Even two months after the battle, in the [[Battle of the Binary Star System]], the Cylons resort to a trap and disproportionate numbers rather than trying to directly engage the Colonial Fleet as they had in the past ([[The Captain&#039;s Hand]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* The Battle of the Resurrection Ship has many similarities to the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Midway|Battle of Midway]].  In both, the strategic tide of the war changed with a decisive battle.  At Midway, the Japanese fleet was caught off guard when the USS &#039;&#039;Yorktown&#039;&#039;, which they had presumed was destroyed or crippled, appeared during the battle and increased the forces available to the Americans.  In this battle, the Cylons were surprised by the appearance of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, long presumed destroyed in the initial Cylon attack, appeared and doubled the forces available to the Colonials.  Finally, Apollo&#039;s experience of ejecting in the middle of the battle and watching it unfold around him is based on the real life experience of Ensign [[Wikipedia:George H. Gay, Jr.|George Gay]] during the Battle of Midway.  George Gay&#039;s plane was shot down and he witnessed the entire battle while floating in the ocean.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Battle of the Resurrection Ship did change Cylon tactics for a time, until the Cylons discover the new human colony on [[New Caprica]], arriving in force, complete with a &#039;&#039;second&#039;&#039; Resurrection Ship ([[Torn]]). &lt;br /&gt;
*A similar battle occurs two years later where the Rebel Basestar, supplemented by forces from &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, attacks the Cylon [[Resurrection Hub]] and destroys it with nukes from Vipers. Once again the Cylons lose the ability to resurrect but this time permanently.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Newman&amp;diff=179489</id>
		<title>User talk:Newman</title>
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		<updated>2009-04-27T21:19:20Z</updated>

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		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Valkyrie/Archive_1&amp;diff=179482</id>
		<title>Talk:Valkyrie/Archive 1</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Before anyone asks, here is the source: http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000pbh0a/g261 &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
See the seal in the background --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:59, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good Job Serenity!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:38, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn&#039;t create the article though :p --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:42, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, but you spotted the name on the seal.  Well, whoever spotted it first, good job!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:44, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyone else notice Tigh?--[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:47, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You mean the eye? This is probably flashback scene. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:50, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::With Admiral pips?[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;18:52, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The description below says &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander&#039;&#039;&#039; William Adama&amp;quot;, as opposed to the next photo. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:56, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The rank differences clearly IDs the photo spot as a flashback.  Look at the pips on the collar!  What are the left collar pips verses the rank pips on the right?  (Right-Left relative to the wearer) This is especially noticable on the Admiral Corman shot.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:02, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s most likely a flashback. Maybe Adama and Tigh served on the Valkyrie and that&#039;s where [[Bulldog]] was under Adama&#039;s command. I can&#039;t really make out the rank pins. They look a bigger than Commander&#039;s insignia, but the picture quality isn&#039;t that good --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:09, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another question, in 8 of 9 shot on that webpage, I am guessing its a flashback scene because Lee is wearing Captain&#039;s pips, but he also has a Battlestar Galactica badge on his shoulder.  I thought he wasn&#039;t assigned to the Galactica prior to the miniseries?  Is that the implication here or a clothing manfunction?  hehe...--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:26, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I read something that he might be demoted back to Captain. Not sure about it, but it makes sense. I guess they could keep him as Major or even Colonel, but there isn&#039;t really a job opening for a Commander at the moment. &lt;br /&gt;
:But looking at it more closely that might even be Major. Major and Captain look very similar, with Major having three chevron, the top one of which is directly on the diamond&#039;s edge --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:28, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The original [[Jackson Spencer|CAG]] of Galactica that we see was a Major. Also, in the Miniseries, Apollo didn&#039;t wear a unit patch at all on his shoulder when he got to Galactica, pehaps since he was in the Reserves. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:21, 3 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::In &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, the name plate on Lee&#039;s viper reads &amp;quot;Maj. Lee Adama&amp;quot;. So I don&#039;t think he will be demoted any time soon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:54, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve deleted this line &amp;quot;both William Adama and Saul Tigh served on the Valkyrie&amp;quot; this is not canon, also many rumors going around are that Adama was involved in a covert operations against the cylons so he might have simply gone to the Valkyrie to be issued orders or debriefed etc, point is, we don&#039;t know. --[[user:lordmutt|lordmutt]] 19:13, 10 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a two-minute video out there, that pretty much confirms that Adama and Tigh were sent to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; for a special mission. Something about using a stealth ship to make a reconnaissance flight into Cylon space. The ship was flown by Novacek who was then captured by the Cylons. I also like that this shoots down the silly theories that the Blackbird was the Colonial&#039;s first stealth ship. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:52, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Concur. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:55, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, wait, wait! In the episode, they showed a picture of the bridge crew of the Valkyrie that included Adama and Tigh. If they were simply assigned there for a single mission (and a covert one at that) they&#039;re not going to commemorate the occasion! Secondly, they wouldn&#039;t have assigned Tigh as well. The fewer people that knew about the mission, the better, plus there would be no reason to send another ship&#039;s XO. The Valkyrie is also described as Adama&#039;s last command before Galactica, which means that he was the commander of the ship, not an officer briefly assigned for a single mission. And why do you even have to ask if its a flashback? C&#039;mon, people, its pretty obvious that it was!--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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:Erm, note the date of this discussion. This was speculation before the episode aired. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Class / Type / Dimensions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now, for the time being, does &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; go down as a &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;-type Battlestar (until someone at the &amp;quot;Head Office&amp;quot; finally tells us details like this)? I &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; like how &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and now &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; are all different styles and sizes, but yet are still classified as &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;. This shows a degree of realism, creativity, and dynamicism among our intrepid Powers That Be &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re not going to pull the weak, canned trick of reusing the same model over and over and over again, ad nauseum. Also, &#039;&#039;hopefully&#039;&#039;, it stomps on &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; musings amongst certain overzealous fans of such genres as Star Wars and Star Trek who have this bad habit of immediately speculating and squabbling over if a ship is a battleship, destroyer, frigate, etc. In this case, it would seem that, regardless of size and/or layout, a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar. End of line.&lt;br /&gt;
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On that note, it would appear that &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is infact smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, perhaps with reduced capabilities (weapons and embarked Vipers and Raptors quantities, etc.), less crew. It would also appear that she has less engines in her differently shaped array, which would make sense for a smaller, less massive starship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, and unrelated to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; directly, that stealth recon craft was &#039;&#039;badass&#039;&#039;, wasn&#039;t it? -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 23:49, 17 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not so sure that the Valkyrie is a less capable ship than the Galactica.  From what Tigh said about Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;graceful retirement&#039; it seems that the Valkyrie was actually a pretty prestigious command.  I had always thought that commanding the Galactica was a great honor, but Tigh&#039;s words seem to indicate otherwise.  Ships tend to get smaller as the technology progresses because of the reduced manpower requirement.  Perhaps the smaller size of the Valkyrie is an indication of this.  Theres no real numbers for the dimensions of the Valkyrie or anything to scale it to, but I also got the sense that it was smaller than the Pegasus or Galactica.  --[[User:Antagonist|Antagonist]] 02:16, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I disagree with that.  A smaller ship is going to have less physical space to carry fighter craft and supplies.  If &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, then its gun batteries are smaller, which means they&#039;re firing lighter shells, which translates into less penetration, smaller warheads, less damage. A smaller ship has less volume to absorb damage with, meaning less staying power in a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t still be a prestigious command, though.  If it were a very new ship, even if it weren&#039;t the most powerful, it would still be a plum assignment.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s not always completely true. For example, the modern Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) class destroyer is about 500 feet long. It&#039;s replaced the 560 foot long Spruance and Kidd class destroyers and is also much more powerful than the old Long Beach (721 fl) and other old cruisers. It&#039;s almost as powerful as the other current surface warship, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, built on a Spruance hull. The only reason our modern carriers are so much larger than the old WWII bird farms, is that the planes are much larger now than they were back then. For instance, the lightweight F/A-18E Super Hornet is about 30,000lbs empty and 60 feet long. The old F6F Hellcat is 42 feet long and weighs under 10,000lbs. In conclusion, Valkryie, even smaller, could be much more powerful than the older Galactica. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:09, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But considering the timeframe, they aren&#039;t using radically different weapons and planes. Probably standard Mk VII Vipers or maybe MkVIs or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it&#039;s sort of like the escort carriers of WWII. Not usually meant to operate alone, but to give support to larger carriers, protect ships and support planetary operations. A support ship in Battlestar Groups that have a fullsized battlestar as main ship --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me of a point I forgot, the Mk II and Mk VII are of similar sizes, they can be launched from the same tubes and stored in the same parking spots on the hanger deck. I&#039;m thinking the Valkyrie is like the USS Wasp which was a miniture Yorktown, a small light carrier that can operate with the fleet carriers. The only difference is that the Valkryie would be more advanced than Galactica, instead of old and ineffective like the Wasp. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:38, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I find myself nodding in gleeful agreement to [[User:Talos|Talos]] and [[User:Serenity|Serenity&#039;s]] comments, but I must reply to [[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper&#039;s]] first &amp;amp;mdash; you&#039;re using the &amp;quot;bigger is better&amp;quot; mentality, and this is one of the two issues that burns at the heart of the fight amongst Star Wars fans on the topic of warships (and classification thereof, but I&#039;ll mention that later). Bigger &#039;&#039;is not&#039;&#039; better. Better is better. Different is better. Just because &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller (hypothetically speaking for the sake of example) doesn&#039;t mean she carries smaller weapons. From the recollection scenes alone, we can see that she has weaponry different, and in different locations, than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The elder battlestar lumps her primary &amp;quot;turrets&amp;quot; dorsalside and ventralside, and has her &amp;quot;flak-guns&amp;quot; lining the midline and flight pods. &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, by contrast, had turrets on the pods themselves, akin to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t want to chase specifics, but focus on the point that differences are &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re human; they&#039;re to be expected; they&#039;re in realistic keeping.&lt;br /&gt;
::It could be said that, perhaps, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; was as Talos and Serenity say, a lighter, more purposeful version of a battlestar for an accompaniment or specialized role. Less mass would mean that she&#039;d require less engines in her array, and perhaps have greater velocities/accelerations. She&#039;d require less crew. While still operating the same craft as any other battlestar, she &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have less of them. Who knows? The point is, she&#039;s different, but &#039;&#039;still a battlestar&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
::I bring in two examples from history: the case of the HMS &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; (ca. 1940) and the battleships of the US Navy during WWII. In &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;s&#039;&#039; story, she was, when WWII rolled around, the largest, longest warship in the British Navy, and was 262m long at 48,000 tonnes full load. By contrast, the &#039;&#039;Queen Elizabeth&#039;&#039;-class battleships were 197m at 33,000 tonnes. Both ships carried the same 15-in gun. Then, we throw in another WWII-era battleship, the &#039;&#039;King George V&#039;&#039;-class, which was 227m at 42,000 tonnes &amp;amp;mdash; but sported 14-in guns because the Admiralty, at the time, felt that a more quantitive broadside (10 over 8 or 9) would be more effective than the larger 15-in guns. I&#039;m not going to get into a running argument over details, but bring this up to point out that all three were battleships (&#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; was termed a &#039;&#039;battlecruiser&#039;&#039;, but the point stands), built by the &#039;&#039;same country&#039;&#039; in roughly a short period of time (within approximately 30 years), and all were used under similar circumstances, to varying success and failure. Similarly, the United States had their &amp;quot;holdover&amp;quot; dreadnaught-style battleships at the opening of WWII, but then churned out the &#039;&#039;New Mexico&#039;&#039;-class, the &#039;&#039;South Dakota&#039;&#039;-class, &#039;&#039;North Carolina&#039;&#039;-class, and &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-class. Each was indeed a battleship, but definitely different in terms of size, traits, and capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I may be getting a bit long-winded for such a trivial subject, but I can&#039;t express enough how &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; this great series is from Star Trek and Star Wars. Until proven otherwise, there aren&#039;t any carriers, battleships, cruisers, frigates, destroyers, corvettes, torpedo boats, etc. &amp;amp;mdash; there are &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;, and a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar, albeit in different shapes, forms, and sizes. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:26, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m thinking that it&#039;s just a smaller battlestar, fulfilling a similar role as the Mercuries and such on smaller displacement. Many realword navies are always attempting to do this. For example, before the Burke was finalized, various lightweight versions, sacrificing engines or Aegis, or other equipment, were designed. All of them tried to mimize displacement.The Treaty-era ships from the 1920-30&#039;s aren&#039;t the best examples to use here because they had an artificial limit imposed on them by the Washington and London Naval Treaties. Frequently, improved technology requires lesser manpower. The reason ships keep getting bigger historically is that they keep adding new technology, for instance, the cause of the massive destroyer size increase after WWII is mostly due to the inclusion of Weapon Alfa, guided missiles, and a huge increase in carried electronics. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 12:27, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, let&#039;s not make too big a deal about the size.  Here&#039;s a comparison of sizes of post-WWII aircraft carrier classess that I put together from wikipedia.org organized by when they were built:&lt;br /&gt;
CVL-48 Saipan class - 2 ships&lt;br /&gt;
14,500 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CVA-58 United States class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
83,350 tons full, 68,000 tons standard&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-59 Forrestal class - 4 ships&lt;br /&gt;
56,300 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-63 Kitty Hawk class - 3 ships&lt;br /&gt;
60,000 tons, 82,200 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-65 Enterprise class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-67 John F. Kennedy class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
60728 tons light, 82655 tons full&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-68 Nimitz class - 9 ships&lt;br /&gt;
101,000 to 104,000 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-78 21st Century Aircraft Carrier Project&lt;br /&gt;
100,000 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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If we equate Galactica, an older ship, to the USS United States and the Valkyrie to Forrestal Class and Pegasus to a Nimitz class, then Galactica would be clearly larger than the Valkyrie and Pegasus would clearly be much larger than both.  In the US Navy today, all these carriers have the exact same function, but vary in size by design and time.  However, they are all aircraft carriers.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 17:29, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[[User:Hawke|Hawke]], I don&#039;t understand where you&#039;re coming from.  I never said &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; wasn&#039;t a battlestar.  I said that if it&#039;s smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, then it cannot be as capable.  It cannot carry the same amount of fighters because its flight pods are smaller.  Its guns cannot be as large, and we know thanks to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; that guns like the ones &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; carries are still effective weapons.  It will not be able to absorb as much damage due to its smaller size.  I&#039;m honestly not sure what most of your post has to do with any of that.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think its also worth remembering that Galactica is 60 years old, and one of the first 12 Battlestars. Therefore Valkyrie must be a newer ship, which is suggested by some of its more Pegasusish design nods. Therefore yes it can quite easily be more powerful than Galactica, simply by having more modern technology. Yes Galactica will of been refitted and such and such, but refitting can only get you so far. If Galactica was able to hold its own next to newer ships it wouldn&#039;t of been about to be decommissioned when the series started. The fact is we don&#039;t know when Pegasus and Valkeryie were built, except that both most of been built post-Galactica&#039;s. That&#039;s probably also why Galactica is looked upon so harshly by Tigh. Galactica may of been in the fleet as an old relic. An old rust bucket that should of been decommissioned years ago. --[[User:CTerry|CTerry]] 18:05, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My thought are that we could gage the scale of the Valkyrie to the Galactica and Pegasus by looking at the flightpods. The width of the &amp;quot;mouth&amp;quot; should be the same as they all support and operate the vehicles - Vipers, Raptors and shuttles. Oh and the Shadow Star, can&#039;t forget that new one. The &amp;quot;banner&amp;quot; on the deck of each flightpod could be the same dimensions for landing purposes. As for the guns, I saw the one in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; of the Valkyrie, one behind it on the &amp;quot;body&amp;quot; and three on the flightpod like that of the Pegasus. Most seemed to have only one cannon, while the that&#039;s in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; appeared, in the firing sequence, to have two cannon. Cannon that fired a powered missle. The Galactica and Pegasus appeared, to me, to have the same type of main gun. The placement was not the same though. I&#039;v been also thinking of the Galactica as being like a World War 2 carrier, since it had &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot; but uprated for modern operation. The Pegasus was a product of more modern times and doesn&#039;t appear to have any &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot;. Due to the guns on the Valkyrie, I&#039;d guess that it was perhaps the most modern design. Those main guns could be a newer design then those on Pegasus, unless they are a new &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot;. In the long run, I have to agree that it appears to be smaller and serve a slightly different purpose in the BSG, maybe a battlescruiser type to the battleship type that Galactica and Pegasus play. I can&#039;t but also say that perhaps, these ships could be treated as ships-of-the-line as in the age of sail. Interesting design, pity we&#039;ll never get to see more of it, unless Zoic is kind and releases some orthos of it. Or maybe some book comes out with orthos of all the Colonial ships and craft.&lt;br /&gt;
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::1 x heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the head&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x Heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the main body, above the flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x more alcoves on either side of the main body that may or may not contain heavy gun turrets; There weren&#039;t any shots close enough for me to be certain.&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x heavy gun turret on either side of the dorsal crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x possible heavy gun turrets aft of the dorsal crest.  The image was from too far awawy to be sure, but they look quite similar to the ones astride the crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x heavy gun turrets on the dorsal surface of the flight-pods, one foreward and one aft.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x light gun turrets in alcoves on the side of each flight-pod.  There were only three in-frame in the picture I saw them in, but it also only covered the foreward part of the flight pod, so there could be more.&lt;br /&gt;
:Having no images of the ship&#039;s underside, there&#039;s no way to tell what armament she has there.&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as I could tell, all the heavy gun turrets had two barrels.  The lighter gun turrets are harder to make out, but they appear to be twin-barreled emplacements as well.  They are definately smaller than the heavy turrets, though.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the armaments of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, the heavy turrets on both are indeed extremely similar in appearance.  &#039;&#039;Both&#039;&#039; possess extensive flak suites of lighter, rapid-fire guns. Although I&#039;ve been unable to visually identify any of the emplacements on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, I&#039;ve certainly seen them firing.&lt;br /&gt;
:The way I see it, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is a much smaller design, fitted with commensurately smaller weaponry, meant to support the heavier ships in a BSG like the &#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039;-class.  More of a cruiser to their battleship, than a battlecruiser.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda thought Valkyrie was a smaller battlestar, much like the Independence class light carriers of World War II or the support carriers (CVS) that the WW II era Essex class ships became.  Essentially these ships were designed to undertake missions that didn&#039;t warrant the use of a big carrier. The CVL Independence, for example, was one of the first carriers deployed for night operations. Essex and her sisters were used for antisubmarine and amphibious operations. If Valkyrie were a ship of this type it would make more sense for her to be assigned a black op, since arguably she would be a somewhat less threatening presence than a full sized battlestar, and she would also be more expendable if something went wrong. I propose the term &amp;quot;Light Battlestar&amp;quot; to describe this ship. :)  [[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 20:44, 20 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is an intermediate design somewhere between &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  As far as size goes, I think its comparable in dimensions to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and therefore slightly smaller than &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. If you use the width and length of the flight pods as a scale, then &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is very similar to the other battlestars we&#039;ve seen.  The perception of small size I think is due to the narrower engine pods and propulsion section in the rear.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has the addtional four engines from a refit that make her rear end wider, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had more engines to begin with.  The width of the bow and the overall length of the ship is about the same for all three.  [[User:Maserati1945|Maserati1945]] 02:41, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could just be Pegasus and Galactica where built for long-term combat operations and journeys where as the Valkyrie might not be designed for extended journeys, which is of course much more suitable to a covert operation. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:00, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guns on the Valkyrie seem, to me, to be rail guns similar to those onboard the Galactica and Pegasus. These latter two have a larger &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot; of cannon, but I think this could explain the firing of the missle and other types of ordance. Galactica and Pegasus can fire differing loads similtaniously, as opposed to Valkyrie. Now here&#039;s a question - I&#039;ve noticed in some captures, what looks like the phaser emitters on the Enterprise-A, covering a number of areas of the Valkyrie. Could they be the AA guns?[[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 18:00, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re referring to those hemisphereical blisters on the flight-pod connector spars, and elsewhere?  If so, I think we haven&#039;t got enough information.  I can&#039;t make out anything that might be gunbarrels on any of them, I haven&#039;t got any detailed enough shots of them.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just did a quick measurement comparison to the Galactica and the Valkyrie. I compared the flightpod openings for width and found that the Vlakyrie would be roughly half as long as the Galactica IF the width is the same for all Battlestars, ie. for receiving the same types of craft (eg. Shuttles, Raptors and Vipers). [[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 22:07, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just comparing the flight pods myself.  I haven&#039;t had time to do anything particularly in-depth, but I looked at the landing strips relative to the width of the pods&#039; foreward and aft openings.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; both look like they&#039;ve got another landing-strip&#039;s width to either side of the actual strip, and from what I recall, the strips on both ships are about the same size compared to Vipers.  Assuming the &#039;&#039;strip&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is the same size, then an eyeball estimate looks to me like there&#039;s about half a strip&#039;s width to either side of the landing strip on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, which would make it two thirds the width of the pods on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok my theory is that Valkyrie&#039;s main mission is patrol and if it finds something it sends a signal to a bigger ship and holds the threat off until a more powerful ship comes. Snorkel378&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, maybe I&#039;m missin&#039; something here, but where did you all get the idea that Valkyrie was smaller? We&#039;ve got no real basis for comparison between the ships except the flight pods and the missile. The Missile looked about the same size compared to the Valkyrie as the missiles that Pegasus and Galactica have fired looked compared to them. And the views we have of the flight pods are so vague that there&#039;s nothing we can really assume based on them. I think that Valkyrie is roughly the same size as Pegasus or Galactica, and is most likely a newer model than Galactica, but a slightly older model than Pegasus, as it appears to have similar design features to both ships (it has the same engine setup and CIC as Pegasus, but the bow and flight pod design looks closer to Galactica-type ships).--[[User:Sci-fi Junkee|Sci-fi Junkee]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s mainly the size of the gun turrets compared to the rest of the ship. If not smaller, it would have very large turrets --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:45, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Can we maybe get some pictures, cause that would help clear this whole mess up for me.--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, you can&#039;t measure size from the shots in &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;. Ever hear of a little thing called &amp;quot;perspective&amp;quot;? It can be very, very deceptive, especially when you consider that we don&#039;t really know how wide a viewing angle they used on the camera when rendering, etc. That&#039;s even without accounting for scale errors in CGI production, that happened more then once during the show.&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, I&#039;m not allowed to prove this statement - but I really do know what this ship looks like, how big it is, and how many engines it has. Let&#039;s just say I have access to certain materials that I&#039;m not allowed to show or discuss where I got them.&lt;br /&gt;
But here are some facts: 1) Those 6 tubes below the pods are the only tubes on the ship. 2) Entrances to the tubes and the profile inside them are viper - shaped. They were intended for vipers, in fact. 3) Total ship&#039;s length is just below 700m. That&#039;s right, boys and girls - it&#039;s a pocket battlestar. That&#039;s why it only has 6 launch tubes (no, they were not meant for any never designed &amp;quot;specialist craft&amp;quot;, that was total nonsense). 4) It has 4 engines, not 6. Always had. If you saw the underside on the model, you&#039;d understand. &lt;br /&gt;
Now, like I said, I can&#039;t prove any of this because I&#039;m not allowed to show the material that does prove it. You can choose to trust me or dismiss the above facts as ramblings of a fanboy trying to deceive the lot of you, for what purpose, I don&#039;t know. But do consider this - even at just below 700m in length, the flight pods are still big enough to service vipers. The turrets that were designed for this ship just fit the lower size in style. And finally, not every ship has to be a mile long godship to be cool. Not every class in a navy will be a juggernaut - you need support vessels, escort carriers, patrol ships, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Related Images==&lt;br /&gt;
I removed the image  File:Valkyrie, Scorpion Shipyards.Jpg as when I look at the Valkyrie in the episode &#039;Heros&#039; it is clear that the pics is not of a Va;kyrie typ battlestar, but is in fact a Galactica type (likely uprated) that is seen in dock at Scorpian Shipyards in &#039;Razor&#039; [[User:Einar|Einar]] 1829 (PST), 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number / Designation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Am I seeing this right? From the capture, it looks like &#039;&#039;&#039;BSG 41&#039;&#039;&#039; on the seal. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:47, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In case you still don&#039;t know, as nobody replied, yes its 41. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:59, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Miniseries appearance? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Miniseries Mystery Ship.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery ship? ([[Miniseries]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I was watching the miniseries the other day and early in I could swear that the Valkyrie or a battlestar of the same make shows up. It&#039;s the same shot through the Caprica City doctor&#039;s window that shows the Firefly and Olympic Carrier-type ship. Is it just me or does anyone else see it? [[User:Motherfraker|Motherfraker]] 16:23, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just found a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aUZSKHhRXs clip on youtube] showing Serenity fly past and you can clearly see the mystery ship. Its certainly very large and looks like it may have 6 engines but I dont think its a battlestar. The middle section isnt big enough and the nose section is too pointy. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:01, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve noticed this ship before, and always presumed it was a [[Memoryalpha:Hirogen Warship]](not in BSG canon, obviously) from Star Trek. There are several instances of CG starship models from Star Trek appearing in Firefly as background ships, and as we know Serenity herself is seen in this scene, so it&#039;s possible that this vessel was put in as an &amp;quot;extra&amp;quot; to fill up space on the screen. I don&#039;t see any resemblance to the Valkyrie, but I could believe that this was a Colonial military craft of some sort.&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a picture of the Hirogen ship for reference: www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/hirogen-venatic-cgi.jpg --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 18:57, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MysteryShip.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery Ship ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not the Valkyrie, I think it&#039;s just a background ship because it appeared again at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] during the fleet&#039;s emergency jump as seen in the screenshot provided here. -- [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:54, 22 November 2006 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
:Its a pretty cool looking ship though. It looks quote powerful, definitly fast with 5 engines. We have a page about most of the ships on the wiki, could we garner enough information about this to make a page. Its quite possible it has made appearances in other episodes too and could even have an official name as there are many ships in the &amp;quot;mentioned only&amp;quot; category. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a rough design for a page [[Five-engined vessel|here]]. What do people think? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:53, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks good to me. I was going to point out the incorrect caption but it looks like you caught it.--[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 09:44, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridge. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I meant to say CIC. Must stop watching Star Trek...--[[User:Helo87|Helo87]]&lt;br /&gt;
:To be fair, when taking modern day nomenclature into account, its function is closer to a bridge. That&#039;s where a ship is steered from. The CIC is where all sensor information is collected and evaluated. In BSG they throw that together, but I kinda like that they use a different term for a change. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 00:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surrviving Battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, how do you know ALL the other battlestars were destroyed?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Well, for one, &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; made it clear that the Cylon&#039;s attack was an overwhelming success. Further, RDM&#039;s made some comments in the past to that effect. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did RDM specifically say that there are definately NO other surrviving battlestars?  Is it absolutely certain?  I&#039;m one of those people who still believes theres a possibility that another one may yet be found.[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 13:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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1) the size of the launch tubes if valk is 1200m is somthing I haddent considered before. I hope that I have provided a good posible explination and have writen it in such a way so that it didn&#039;t seem 1 sided. If you plan to rewrite it please do so in a nutral way. The desiners made some mistakes with the valk and these launch tubes were one of them. They were probably just slaped on there to make it look diffrent and the desinger desided that having 3 looked the coolest. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) The turret argument is starting to anoy me. There is no reason that galactica style turrets could not be used on the Valk, regardless of it&#039;s size. They could easly have been scaled to match the ships size. It is clear from hero that Valks turrets work in a diffrent way thus a diffrent desinge. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) could someone please point out these &amp;quot;meny desinge features that surgest a smaller scale&amp;quot;. In my view the evidence sugests a larger ship the visual evidence in razor right down to dialog about it Being a better comand have drawn me to this conclution. &lt;br /&gt;
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4) Altogh I realize that there are only 4 engnies I do wish there 6 and have heard meany people clame that is the case, even with this evidence. I do not think that the posibleity of extra engnies that can&#039;t be seen should be ruled out. There could be some behined the flap. &lt;br /&gt;
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:1) The designers haven&#039;t made any mistakes, it&#039;s just that the ship doesn&#039;t work on the large scale everyone seems to be attributing to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Annoying or not, the turret argument is valid. Galactica&#039;s turrets couldn&#039;t have been used because a) they&#039;re too big,&lt;br /&gt;
    b) they don&#039;t fit in style, and c) when scaled down they look very weird. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) Only 6 launch tubes oriented in the same direction as the ship, that would be way too big for even raptors if the ship was over 1000m long. Redesigned turrets that fit smaller ships a lot better - which is exactly why the inhouse team designed them that way.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Extra engines can be ruled out, those really are flaps. I&#039;m not allowed to prove any of the things I wrote above it so feel free to discount everything I just said if you so desire, but I&#039;ve seen materials on this ship not available to the public. (No, I shouldn&#039;t even be telling you this much, and I definitely can&#039;t show those materials. Wish I could, it would end the endless discussion and wrong assumptions about the ship). It&#039;s 4 engines with flaps behind them. edit: What I can show you is a fan made model from sci-fi meshes: not sure where the author got the references to build it, but the model is reasonably accurate. Here&#039;s one pic from that thread, you can just see the flaps behind the engines.&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/16114-battlestar-valkyrie-51.html&lt;br /&gt;
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::1) &amp;quot;The designers haven&#039;t made any mistakes&amp;quot; I believe they have: 4 engines, this doesn&#039;t make any scene, this would make the ship &#039;top heavy&#039;. to propel the ship forward the trust needs to be along the center of mass, otherwise the ship would start spinning. This mistake has been made many times in BSG, most notisably with cloud 9. Almost ironicly 6 engines would fix this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
The flight pods (if the ship is at the small scale of 700m). They would be a weakness not an tactical advantage. With such a small fighter wing they become impractical. having one flight deck on the underside (like the ship beside beside Pegasus in razor) would make far more sense. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) You just used a real world explanation to support a in universe argument! a) &amp;quot;they&#039;re too big&amp;quot;, thats why you resize them. b) &amp;quot;they don&#039;t fit the style&amp;quot;, the ones on the Mercury class would and they are &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; similar. c) &amp;quot;when scaled down they look very weird&amp;quot;, have a look at this : [http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Shipyard/Drawings/OtherGenres/Galactica/ES_Anala.png] this ship has Galacticas turrets on a smaller scale and they look fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) &amp;quot;Only 6 launch tubes oriented in the same direction as the ship, that would be way too big for even raptors if the ship was over 1000m long.&amp;quot; Thus the comment about lager spetialised ships. Also the triangle shape would be more structialy sound than ones shaped for raptors and at that size would fit&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that one larger pod would make more sense then two smaller ones. However you have to keep in mind that this is sci-fi, and sometimes (often, really) things aren&#039;t done so they&#039;re 100% realistic, they&#039;re done so they look good. Same argument goes for the engines number.&lt;br /&gt;
Bottom line - I wasn&#039;t saying what was more realistic, which I always find to be a completely pointless debate when discussing sci fi ships made of non existent materials, using non existent technologies (and designed by people who aren&#039;t aerospace engineers). Therefore I won&#039;t even comment the center of mass argument. &lt;br /&gt;
What I am saying is what the ship DOES really look like in the show, having had the opportunity to actually see it in far more detail then what was shown in razor or &amp;quot;Hero&amp;quot;. And the Valkyrie there has 4 engines, is really small compared to Galactica, and has 6 forward facing launch tubes below the flight pods which are a lot smaller then Galactica&#039;s (since the entire ship is about as long as one single Galactica&#039;s pod).&lt;br /&gt;
They&#039;ve also redesigned those turrets, not just to fit the different scale, but to fit the different style of the ship. Those old howitzer style BSG turrets were meant to look old, that&#039;s why they&#039;re on a ship that&#039;s a 1st war relic. Valkyrie, being much smaller and newer, clearly called for a new turret type to be designed.&lt;br /&gt;
Finally, I&#039;m not sure what does that pic of the &amp;quot;escortstar&amp;quot; prove (I have to laugh at the name though - seriously, the &amp;quot;Anala&amp;quot;? Yeah the ship is ugly but to name it like that is just cruel), but I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s not pertinent to this discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
First of all, it&#039;s non canon, so it doesn&#039;t prove a thing. Secondly, it doesn&#039;t look very modern (not like the Pegasus clearly looks like a more modern battlestar then the Galactica). Thirdly, it&#039;s a 2d drawing, not a 3d model, and it&#039;s a lot harder to gauge how well the turrets fit it that way. And finally, it&#039;s hideous. If that&#039;s a &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; ship and the Valkyrie is full of &amp;quot;design mistakes&amp;quot;, I&#039;ll take the Valkyrie any day of the week and be happy with it.&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, I grow tired of this discussion. I offered some Valkyrie facts because I have them and I tried to set the record straight concerning the ship. Since I&#039;m not allowed to present material that would prove it, believe it or don&#039;t. I won&#039;t be editing the main page because it will just be edited with wrong information within the hour. Joys of the open editing system...&lt;br /&gt;
Enjoy your 1200m, 6 engine Valkyrie with 6 tubes designed to launch very big, not ever designed or mentioned craft, all proven by a 2d drawing of a non canon (ugly) ship named after a non flattering body part.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never said that that was a good ship(personally I hate it. btw it is meant to be from near the end of the cylon war).  it just proved that that type of gun can be scaled down. I never said that it don&#039;t believe you, in fact i&#039;d say you have swayed me. However evidence given in the show does support the larger size (which i prefare). The large size shown in razor will have been a cgi blunder (like the oversized galactica type which could be explained as being a ship of this class: [http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Shipyard/Drawings/OtherGenres/Galactica/Atlantia.png](it&#039;s meant to be a command version of the Galactica type) and in my own personal Battlestar world they would be a type of large Valkyrie types using advanced technology intended to compeat with the mercury class (built by a different company). When you come down to it  the valk is still possibly the coolest design in the show.&lt;br /&gt;
p.s, could you tell me the Valks weapon count&lt;br /&gt;
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See the seal in the background --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:59, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good Job Serenity!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:38, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn&#039;t create the article though :p --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:42, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, but you spotted the name on the seal.  Well, whoever spotted it first, good job!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:44, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyone else notice Tigh?--[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:47, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You mean the eye? This is probably flashback scene. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:50, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::With Admiral pips?[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;18:52, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The description below says &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander&#039;&#039;&#039; William Adama&amp;quot;, as opposed to the next photo. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:56, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The rank differences clearly IDs the photo spot as a flashback.  Look at the pips on the collar!  What are the left collar pips verses the rank pips on the right?  (Right-Left relative to the wearer) This is especially noticable on the Admiral Corman shot.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:02, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s most likely a flashback. Maybe Adama and Tigh served on the Valkyrie and that&#039;s where [[Bulldog]] was under Adama&#039;s command. I can&#039;t really make out the rank pins. They look a bigger than Commander&#039;s insignia, but the picture quality isn&#039;t that good --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:09, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another question, in 8 of 9 shot on that webpage, I am guessing its a flashback scene because Lee is wearing Captain&#039;s pips, but he also has a Battlestar Galactica badge on his shoulder.  I thought he wasn&#039;t assigned to the Galactica prior to the miniseries?  Is that the implication here or a clothing manfunction?  hehe...--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:26, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I read something that he might be demoted back to Captain. Not sure about it, but it makes sense. I guess they could keep him as Major or even Colonel, but there isn&#039;t really a job opening for a Commander at the moment. &lt;br /&gt;
:But looking at it more closely that might even be Major. Major and Captain look very similar, with Major having three chevron, the top one of which is directly on the diamond&#039;s edge --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:28, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The original [[Jackson Spencer|CAG]] of Galactica that we see was a Major. Also, in the Miniseries, Apollo didn&#039;t wear a unit patch at all on his shoulder when he got to Galactica, pehaps since he was in the Reserves. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:21, 3 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::In &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, the name plate on Lee&#039;s viper reads &amp;quot;Maj. Lee Adama&amp;quot;. So I don&#039;t think he will be demoted any time soon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:54, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve deleted this line &amp;quot;both William Adama and Saul Tigh served on the Valkyrie&amp;quot; this is not canon, also many rumors going around are that Adama was involved in a covert operations against the cylons so he might have simply gone to the Valkyrie to be issued orders or debriefed etc, point is, we don&#039;t know. --[[user:lordmutt|lordmutt]] 19:13, 10 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a two-minute video out there, that pretty much confirms that Adama and Tigh were sent to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; for a special mission. Something about using a stealth ship to make a reconnaissance flight into Cylon space. The ship was flown by Novacek who was then captured by the Cylons. I also like that this shoots down the silly theories that the Blackbird was the Colonial&#039;s first stealth ship. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:52, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Concur. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:55, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, wait, wait! In the episode, they showed a picture of the bridge crew of the Valkyrie that included Adama and Tigh. If they were simply assigned there for a single mission (and a covert one at that) they&#039;re not going to commemorate the occasion! Secondly, they wouldn&#039;t have assigned Tigh as well. The fewer people that knew about the mission, the better, plus there would be no reason to send another ship&#039;s XO. The Valkyrie is also described as Adama&#039;s last command before Galactica, which means that he was the commander of the ship, not an officer briefly assigned for a single mission. And why do you even have to ask if its a flashback? C&#039;mon, people, its pretty obvious that it was!--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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:Erm, note the date of this discussion. This was speculation before the episode aired. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Class / Type / Dimensions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now, for the time being, does &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; go down as a &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;-type Battlestar (until someone at the &amp;quot;Head Office&amp;quot; finally tells us details like this)? I &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; like how &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and now &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; are all different styles and sizes, but yet are still classified as &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;. This shows a degree of realism, creativity, and dynamicism among our intrepid Powers That Be &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re not going to pull the weak, canned trick of reusing the same model over and over and over again, ad nauseum. Also, &#039;&#039;hopefully&#039;&#039;, it stomps on &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; musings amongst certain overzealous fans of such genres as Star Wars and Star Trek who have this bad habit of immediately speculating and squabbling over if a ship is a battleship, destroyer, frigate, etc. In this case, it would seem that, regardless of size and/or layout, a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar. End of line.&lt;br /&gt;
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On that note, it would appear that &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is infact smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, perhaps with reduced capabilities (weapons and embarked Vipers and Raptors quantities, etc.), less crew. It would also appear that she has less engines in her differently shaped array, which would make sense for a smaller, less massive starship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, and unrelated to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; directly, that stealth recon craft was &#039;&#039;badass&#039;&#039;, wasn&#039;t it? -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 23:49, 17 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not so sure that the Valkyrie is a less capable ship than the Galactica.  From what Tigh said about Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;graceful retirement&#039; it seems that the Valkyrie was actually a pretty prestigious command.  I had always thought that commanding the Galactica was a great honor, but Tigh&#039;s words seem to indicate otherwise.  Ships tend to get smaller as the technology progresses because of the reduced manpower requirement.  Perhaps the smaller size of the Valkyrie is an indication of this.  Theres no real numbers for the dimensions of the Valkyrie or anything to scale it to, but I also got the sense that it was smaller than the Pegasus or Galactica.  --[[User:Antagonist|Antagonist]] 02:16, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I disagree with that.  A smaller ship is going to have less physical space to carry fighter craft and supplies.  If &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, then its gun batteries are smaller, which means they&#039;re firing lighter shells, which translates into less penetration, smaller warheads, less damage. A smaller ship has less volume to absorb damage with, meaning less staying power in a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t still be a prestigious command, though.  If it were a very new ship, even if it weren&#039;t the most powerful, it would still be a plum assignment.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s not always completely true. For example, the modern Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) class destroyer is about 500 feet long. It&#039;s replaced the 560 foot long Spruance and Kidd class destroyers and is also much more powerful than the old Long Beach (721 fl) and other old cruisers. It&#039;s almost as powerful as the other current surface warship, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, built on a Spruance hull. The only reason our modern carriers are so much larger than the old WWII bird farms, is that the planes are much larger now than they were back then. For instance, the lightweight F/A-18E Super Hornet is about 30,000lbs empty and 60 feet long. The old F6F Hellcat is 42 feet long and weighs under 10,000lbs. In conclusion, Valkryie, even smaller, could be much more powerful than the older Galactica. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:09, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But considering the timeframe, they aren&#039;t using radically different weapons and planes. Probably standard Mk VII Vipers or maybe MkVIs or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it&#039;s sort of like the escort carriers of WWII. Not usually meant to operate alone, but to give support to larger carriers, protect ships and support planetary operations. A support ship in Battlestar Groups that have a fullsized battlestar as main ship --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me of a point I forgot, the Mk II and Mk VII are of similar sizes, they can be launched from the same tubes and stored in the same parking spots on the hanger deck. I&#039;m thinking the Valkyrie is like the USS Wasp which was a miniture Yorktown, a small light carrier that can operate with the fleet carriers. The only difference is that the Valkryie would be more advanced than Galactica, instead of old and ineffective like the Wasp. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:38, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I find myself nodding in gleeful agreement to [[User:Talos|Talos]] and [[User:Serenity|Serenity&#039;s]] comments, but I must reply to [[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper&#039;s]] first &amp;amp;mdash; you&#039;re using the &amp;quot;bigger is better&amp;quot; mentality, and this is one of the two issues that burns at the heart of the fight amongst Star Wars fans on the topic of warships (and classification thereof, but I&#039;ll mention that later). Bigger &#039;&#039;is not&#039;&#039; better. Better is better. Different is better. Just because &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller (hypothetically speaking for the sake of example) doesn&#039;t mean she carries smaller weapons. From the recollection scenes alone, we can see that she has weaponry different, and in different locations, than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The elder battlestar lumps her primary &amp;quot;turrets&amp;quot; dorsalside and ventralside, and has her &amp;quot;flak-guns&amp;quot; lining the midline and flight pods. &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, by contrast, had turrets on the pods themselves, akin to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t want to chase specifics, but focus on the point that differences are &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re human; they&#039;re to be expected; they&#039;re in realistic keeping.&lt;br /&gt;
::It could be said that, perhaps, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; was as Talos and Serenity say, a lighter, more purposeful version of a battlestar for an accompaniment or specialized role. Less mass would mean that she&#039;d require less engines in her array, and perhaps have greater velocities/accelerations. She&#039;d require less crew. While still operating the same craft as any other battlestar, she &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have less of them. Who knows? The point is, she&#039;s different, but &#039;&#039;still a battlestar&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
::I bring in two examples from history: the case of the HMS &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; (ca. 1940) and the battleships of the US Navy during WWII. In &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;s&#039;&#039; story, she was, when WWII rolled around, the largest, longest warship in the British Navy, and was 262m long at 48,000 tonnes full load. By contrast, the &#039;&#039;Queen Elizabeth&#039;&#039;-class battleships were 197m at 33,000 tonnes. Both ships carried the same 15-in gun. Then, we throw in another WWII-era battleship, the &#039;&#039;King George V&#039;&#039;-class, which was 227m at 42,000 tonnes &amp;amp;mdash; but sported 14-in guns because the Admiralty, at the time, felt that a more quantitive broadside (10 over 8 or 9) would be more effective than the larger 15-in guns. I&#039;m not going to get into a running argument over details, but bring this up to point out that all three were battleships (&#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; was termed a &#039;&#039;battlecruiser&#039;&#039;, but the point stands), built by the &#039;&#039;same country&#039;&#039; in roughly a short period of time (within approximately 30 years), and all were used under similar circumstances, to varying success and failure. Similarly, the United States had their &amp;quot;holdover&amp;quot; dreadnaught-style battleships at the opening of WWII, but then churned out the &#039;&#039;New Mexico&#039;&#039;-class, the &#039;&#039;South Dakota&#039;&#039;-class, &#039;&#039;North Carolina&#039;&#039;-class, and &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-class. Each was indeed a battleship, but definitely different in terms of size, traits, and capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I may be getting a bit long-winded for such a trivial subject, but I can&#039;t express enough how &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; this great series is from Star Trek and Star Wars. Until proven otherwise, there aren&#039;t any carriers, battleships, cruisers, frigates, destroyers, corvettes, torpedo boats, etc. &amp;amp;mdash; there are &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;, and a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar, albeit in different shapes, forms, and sizes. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:26, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m thinking that it&#039;s just a smaller battlestar, fulfilling a similar role as the Mercuries and such on smaller displacement. Many realword navies are always attempting to do this. For example, before the Burke was finalized, various lightweight versions, sacrificing engines or Aegis, or other equipment, were designed. All of them tried to mimize displacement.The Treaty-era ships from the 1920-30&#039;s aren&#039;t the best examples to use here because they had an artificial limit imposed on them by the Washington and London Naval Treaties. Frequently, improved technology requires lesser manpower. The reason ships keep getting bigger historically is that they keep adding new technology, for instance, the cause of the massive destroyer size increase after WWII is mostly due to the inclusion of Weapon Alfa, guided missiles, and a huge increase in carried electronics. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 12:27, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, let&#039;s not make too big a deal about the size.  Here&#039;s a comparison of sizes of post-WWII aircraft carrier classess that I put together from wikipedia.org organized by when they were built:&lt;br /&gt;
CVL-48 Saipan class - 2 ships&lt;br /&gt;
14,500 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CVA-58 United States class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
83,350 tons full, 68,000 tons standard&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-59 Forrestal class - 4 ships&lt;br /&gt;
56,300 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-63 Kitty Hawk class - 3 ships&lt;br /&gt;
60,000 tons, 82,200 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-65 Enterprise class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
approx. 93,500 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-67 John F. Kennedy class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
60728 tons light, 82655 tons full&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-68 Nimitz class - 9 ships&lt;br /&gt;
101,000 to 104,000 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-78 21st Century Aircraft Carrier Project&lt;br /&gt;
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If we equate Galactica, an older ship, to the USS United States and the Valkyrie to Forrestal Class and Pegasus to a Nimitz class, then Galactica would be clearly larger than the Valkyrie and Pegasus would clearly be much larger than both.  In the US Navy today, all these carriers have the exact same function, but vary in size by design and time.  However, they are all aircraft carriers.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 17:29, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[[User:Hawke|Hawke]], I don&#039;t understand where you&#039;re coming from.  I never said &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; wasn&#039;t a battlestar.  I said that if it&#039;s smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, then it cannot be as capable.  It cannot carry the same amount of fighters because its flight pods are smaller.  Its guns cannot be as large, and we know thanks to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; that guns like the ones &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; carries are still effective weapons.  It will not be able to absorb as much damage due to its smaller size.  I&#039;m honestly not sure what most of your post has to do with any of that.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think its also worth remembering that Galactica is 60 years old, and one of the first 12 Battlestars. Therefore Valkyrie must be a newer ship, which is suggested by some of its more Pegasusish design nods. Therefore yes it can quite easily be more powerful than Galactica, simply by having more modern technology. Yes Galactica will of been refitted and such and such, but refitting can only get you so far. If Galactica was able to hold its own next to newer ships it wouldn&#039;t of been about to be decommissioned when the series started. The fact is we don&#039;t know when Pegasus and Valkeryie were built, except that both most of been built post-Galactica&#039;s. That&#039;s probably also why Galactica is looked upon so harshly by Tigh. Galactica may of been in the fleet as an old relic. An old rust bucket that should of been decommissioned years ago. --[[User:CTerry|CTerry]] 18:05, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My thought are that we could gage the scale of the Valkyrie to the Galactica and Pegasus by looking at the flightpods. The width of the &amp;quot;mouth&amp;quot; should be the same as they all support and operate the vehicles - Vipers, Raptors and shuttles. Oh and the Shadow Star, can&#039;t forget that new one. The &amp;quot;banner&amp;quot; on the deck of each flightpod could be the same dimensions for landing purposes. As for the guns, I saw the one in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; of the Valkyrie, one behind it on the &amp;quot;body&amp;quot; and three on the flightpod like that of the Pegasus. Most seemed to have only one cannon, while the that&#039;s in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; appeared, in the firing sequence, to have two cannon. Cannon that fired a powered missle. The Galactica and Pegasus appeared, to me, to have the same type of main gun. The placement was not the same though. I&#039;v been also thinking of the Galactica as being like a World War 2 carrier, since it had &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot; but uprated for modern operation. The Pegasus was a product of more modern times and doesn&#039;t appear to have any &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot;. Due to the guns on the Valkyrie, I&#039;d guess that it was perhaps the most modern design. Those main guns could be a newer design then those on Pegasus, unless they are a new &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot;. In the long run, I have to agree that it appears to be smaller and serve a slightly different purpose in the BSG, maybe a battlescruiser type to the battleship type that Galactica and Pegasus play. I can&#039;t but also say that perhaps, these ships could be treated as ships-of-the-line as in the age of sail. Interesting design, pity we&#039;ll never get to see more of it, unless Zoic is kind and releases some orthos of it. Or maybe some book comes out with orthos of all the Colonial ships and craft.&lt;br /&gt;
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::1 x Heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the main body, above the flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x more alcoves on either side of the main body that may or may not contain heavy gun turrets; There weren&#039;t any shots close enough for me to be certain.&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x heavy gun turret on either side of the dorsal crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x possible heavy gun turrets aft of the dorsal crest.  The image was from too far awawy to be sure, but they look quite similar to the ones astride the crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x heavy gun turrets on the dorsal surface of the flight-pods, one foreward and one aft.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x light gun turrets in alcoves on the side of each flight-pod.  There were only three in-frame in the picture I saw them in, but it also only covered the foreward part of the flight pod, so there could be more.&lt;br /&gt;
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:As far as I could tell, all the heavy gun turrets had two barrels.  The lighter gun turrets are harder to make out, but they appear to be twin-barreled emplacements as well.  They are definately smaller than the heavy turrets, though.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the armaments of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, the heavy turrets on both are indeed extremely similar in appearance.  &#039;&#039;Both&#039;&#039; possess extensive flak suites of lighter, rapid-fire guns. Although I&#039;ve been unable to visually identify any of the emplacements on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, I&#039;ve certainly seen them firing.&lt;br /&gt;
:The way I see it, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is a much smaller design, fitted with commensurately smaller weaponry, meant to support the heavier ships in a BSG like the &#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039;-class.  More of a cruiser to their battleship, than a battlecruiser.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda thought Valkyrie was a smaller battlestar, much like the Independence class light carriers of World War II or the support carriers (CVS) that the WW II era Essex class ships became.  Essentially these ships were designed to undertake missions that didn&#039;t warrant the use of a big carrier. The CVL Independence, for example, was one of the first carriers deployed for night operations. Essex and her sisters were used for antisubmarine and amphibious operations. If Valkyrie were a ship of this type it would make more sense for her to be assigned a black op, since arguably she would be a somewhat less threatening presence than a full sized battlestar, and she would also be more expendable if something went wrong. I propose the term &amp;quot;Light Battlestar&amp;quot; to describe this ship. :)  [[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 20:44, 20 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is an intermediate design somewhere between &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  As far as size goes, I think its comparable in dimensions to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and therefore slightly smaller than &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. If you use the width and length of the flight pods as a scale, then &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is very similar to the other battlestars we&#039;ve seen.  The perception of small size I think is due to the narrower engine pods and propulsion section in the rear.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has the addtional four engines from a refit that make her rear end wider, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had more engines to begin with.  The width of the bow and the overall length of the ship is about the same for all three.  [[User:Maserati1945|Maserati1945]] 02:41, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could just be Pegasus and Galactica where built for long-term combat operations and journeys where as the Valkyrie might not be designed for extended journeys, which is of course much more suitable to a covert operation. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:00, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guns on the Valkyrie seem, to me, to be rail guns similar to those onboard the Galactica and Pegasus. These latter two have a larger &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot; of cannon, but I think this could explain the firing of the missle and other types of ordance. Galactica and Pegasus can fire differing loads similtaniously, as opposed to Valkyrie. Now here&#039;s a question - I&#039;ve noticed in some captures, what looks like the phaser emitters on the Enterprise-A, covering a number of areas of the Valkyrie. Could they be the AA guns?[[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 18:00, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re referring to those hemisphereical blisters on the flight-pod connector spars, and elsewhere?  If so, I think we haven&#039;t got enough information.  I can&#039;t make out anything that might be gunbarrels on any of them, I haven&#039;t got any detailed enough shots of them.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just did a quick measurement comparison to the Galactica and the Valkyrie. I compared the flightpod openings for width and found that the Vlakyrie would be roughly half as long as the Galactica IF the width is the same for all Battlestars, ie. for receiving the same types of craft (eg. Shuttles, Raptors and Vipers). [[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 22:07, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just comparing the flight pods myself.  I haven&#039;t had time to do anything particularly in-depth, but I looked at the landing strips relative to the width of the pods&#039; foreward and aft openings.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; both look like they&#039;ve got another landing-strip&#039;s width to either side of the actual strip, and from what I recall, the strips on both ships are about the same size compared to Vipers.  Assuming the &#039;&#039;strip&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is the same size, then an eyeball estimate looks to me like there&#039;s about half a strip&#039;s width to either side of the landing strip on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, which would make it two thirds the width of the pods on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok my theory is that Valkyrie&#039;s main mission is patrol and if it finds something it sends a signal to a bigger ship and holds the threat off until a more powerful ship comes. Snorkel378&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, maybe I&#039;m missin&#039; something here, but where did you all get the idea that Valkyrie was smaller? We&#039;ve got no real basis for comparison between the ships except the flight pods and the missile. The Missile looked about the same size compared to the Valkyrie as the missiles that Pegasus and Galactica have fired looked compared to them. And the views we have of the flight pods are so vague that there&#039;s nothing we can really assume based on them. I think that Valkyrie is roughly the same size as Pegasus or Galactica, and is most likely a newer model than Galactica, but a slightly older model than Pegasus, as it appears to have similar design features to both ships (it has the same engine setup and CIC as Pegasus, but the bow and flight pod design looks closer to Galactica-type ships).--[[User:Sci-fi Junkee|Sci-fi Junkee]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s mainly the size of the gun turrets compared to the rest of the ship. If not smaller, it would have very large turrets --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:45, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Can we maybe get some pictures, cause that would help clear this whole mess up for me.--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, you can&#039;t measure size from the shots in &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot;. Ever hear of a little thing called &amp;quot;perspective&amp;quot;? It can be very, very deceptive, especially when you consider that we don&#039;t really know how wide a viewing angle they used on the camera when rendering, etc. That&#039;s even without accounting for scale errors in CGI production, that happened more then once during the show.&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, I&#039;m not allowed to prove this statement - but I really do know what this ship looks like, how big it is, and how many engines it has. Let&#039;s just say I have access to certain materials that I&#039;m not allowed to show or discuss where I got them.&lt;br /&gt;
But here are some facts: 1) Those 6 tubes below the pods are the only tubes on the ship. 2) Entrances to the tubes and the profile inside them are viper - shaped. They were intended for vipers, in fact. 3) Total ship&#039;s length is just below 700m. That&#039;s right, boys and girls - it&#039;s a pocket battlestar. That&#039;s why it only has 6 launch tubes (no, they were not meant for any never designed &amp;quot;specialist craft&amp;quot;, that was total nonsense). 4) It has 4 engines, not 6. Always had. If you saw the underside on the model, you&#039;d understand. &lt;br /&gt;
Now, like I said, I can&#039;t prove any of this because I&#039;m not allowed to show the material that does prove it. You can choose to trust me or dismiss the above facts as ramblings of a fanboy trying to deceive the lot of you, for what purpose, I don&#039;t know. But do consider this - even at just below 700m in length, the flight pods are still big enough to service vipers. The turrets that were designed for this ship just fit the lower size in style. And finally, not every ship has to be a mile long godship to be cool. Not every class in a navy will be a juggernaut - you need support vessels, escort carriers, patrol ships, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Related Images==&lt;br /&gt;
I removed the image  File:Valkyrie, Scorpion Shipyards.Jpg as when I look at the Valkyrie in the episode &#039;Heros&#039; it is clear that the pics is not of a Va;kyrie typ battlestar, but is in fact a Galactica type (likely uprated) that is seen in dock at Scorpian Shipyards in &#039;Razor&#039; [[User:Einar|Einar]] 1829 (PST), 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number / Designation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Am I seeing this right? From the capture, it looks like &#039;&#039;&#039;BSG 41&#039;&#039;&#039; on the seal. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:47, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In case you still don&#039;t know, as nobody replied, yes its 41. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:59, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Miniseries appearance? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Miniseries Mystery Ship.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery ship? ([[Miniseries]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I was watching the miniseries the other day and early in I could swear that the Valkyrie or a battlestar of the same make shows up. It&#039;s the same shot through the Caprica City doctor&#039;s window that shows the Firefly and Olympic Carrier-type ship. Is it just me or does anyone else see it? [[User:Motherfraker|Motherfraker]] 16:23, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just found a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aUZSKHhRXs clip on youtube] showing Serenity fly past and you can clearly see the mystery ship. Its certainly very large and looks like it may have 6 engines but I dont think its a battlestar. The middle section isnt big enough and the nose section is too pointy. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:01, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve noticed this ship before, and always presumed it was a [[Memoryalpha:Hirogen Warship]](not in BSG canon, obviously) from Star Trek. There are several instances of CG starship models from Star Trek appearing in Firefly as background ships, and as we know Serenity herself is seen in this scene, so it&#039;s possible that this vessel was put in as an &amp;quot;extra&amp;quot; to fill up space on the screen. I don&#039;t see any resemblance to the Valkyrie, but I could believe that this was a Colonial military craft of some sort.&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a picture of the Hirogen ship for reference: www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/hirogen-venatic-cgi.jpg --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 18:57, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MysteryShip.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery Ship ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not the Valkyrie, I think it&#039;s just a background ship because it appeared again at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] during the fleet&#039;s emergency jump as seen in the screenshot provided here. -- [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:54, 22 November 2006 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
:Its a pretty cool looking ship though. It looks quote powerful, definitly fast with 5 engines. We have a page about most of the ships on the wiki, could we garner enough information about this to make a page. Its quite possible it has made appearances in other episodes too and could even have an official name as there are many ships in the &amp;quot;mentioned only&amp;quot; category. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a rough design for a page [[Five-engined vessel|here]]. What do people think? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:53, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks good to me. I was going to point out the incorrect caption but it looks like you caught it.--[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 09:44, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridge. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I meant to say CIC. Must stop watching Star Trek...--[[User:Helo87|Helo87]]&lt;br /&gt;
:To be fair, when taking modern day nomenclature into account, its function is closer to a bridge. That&#039;s where a ship is steered from. The CIC is where all sensor information is collected and evaluated. In BSG they throw that together, but I kinda like that they use a different term for a change. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 00:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surrviving Battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, how do you know ALL the other battlestars were destroyed?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Well, for one, &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; made it clear that the Cylon&#039;s attack was an overwhelming success. Further, RDM&#039;s made some comments in the past to that effect. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did RDM specifically say that there are definately NO other surrviving battlestars?  Is it absolutely certain?  I&#039;m one of those people who still believes theres a possibility that another one may yet be found.[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 13:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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1) the size of the launch tubes if valk is 1200m is somthing I haddent considered before. I hope that I have provided a good posible explination and have writen it in such a way so that it didn&#039;t seem 1 sided. If you plan to rewrite it please do so in a nutral way. The desiners made some mistakes with the valk and these launch tubes were one of them. They were probably just slaped on there to make it look diffrent and the desinger desided that having 3 looked the coolest. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) The turret argument is starting to anoy me. There is no reason that galactica style turrets could not be used on the Valk, regardless of it&#039;s size. They could easly have been scaled to match the ships size. It is clear from hero that Valks turrets work in a diffrent way thus a diffrent desinge. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) could someone please point out these &amp;quot;meny desinge features that surgest a smaller scale&amp;quot;. In my view the evidence sugests a larger ship the visual evidence in razor right down to dialog about it Being a better comand have drawn me to this conclution. &lt;br /&gt;
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4) Altogh I realize that there are only 4 engnies I do wish there 6 and have heard meany people clame that is the case, even with this evidence. I do not think that the posibleity of extra engnies that can&#039;t be seen should be ruled out. There could be some behined the flap. &lt;br /&gt;
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:1) The designers haven&#039;t made any mistakes, it&#039;s just that the ship doesn&#039;t work on the large scale everyone seems to be attributing to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Annoying or not, the turret argument is valid. Galactica&#039;s turrets couldn&#039;t have been used because a) they&#039;re too big,&lt;br /&gt;
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3) Only 6 launch tubes oriented in the same direction as the ship, that would be way too big for even raptors if the ship was over 1000m long. Redesigned turrets that fit smaller ships a lot better - which is exactly why the inhouse team designed them that way.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Extra engines can be ruled out, those really are flaps. I&#039;m not allowed to prove any of the things I wrote above it so feel free to discount everything I just said if you so desire, but I&#039;ve seen materials on this ship not available to the public. (No, I shouldn&#039;t even be telling you this much, and I definitely can&#039;t show those materials. Wish I could, it would end the endless discussion and wrong assumptions about the ship). It&#039;s 4 engines with flaps behind them. edit: What I can show you is a fan made model from sci-fi meshes: not sure where the author got the references to build it, but the model is reasonably accurate. Here&#039;s one pic from that thread, you can just see the flaps behind the engines.&lt;br /&gt;
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::1) &amp;quot;The designers haven&#039;t made any mistakes&amp;quot; I believe they have: 4 engines, this doesn&#039;t make any scene, this would make the ship &#039;top heavy&#039;. to propel the ship forward the trust needs to be along the center of mass, otherwise the ship would start spinning. This mistake has been made many times in BSG, most notisably with cloud 9. Almost ironicly 6 engines would fix this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
The flight pods (if the ship is at the small scale of 700m). They would be a weakness not an tactical advantage. With such a small fighter wing they become impractical. having one flight deck on the underside (like the ship beside beside Pegasus in razor) would make far more sense. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) You just used a real world explanation to support a in universe argument! a) &amp;quot;they&#039;re too big&amp;quot;, thats why you resize them. b) &amp;quot;they don&#039;t fit the style&amp;quot;, the ones on the Mercury class would and they are &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; similar. c) &amp;quot;when scaled down they look very weird&amp;quot;, have a look at this : http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Shipyard/Drawings/OtherGenres/Galactica/ES_Anala.png this ship has Galacticas turrets on a smaller scale and they look fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) &amp;quot;Only 6 launch tubes oriented in the same direction as the ship, that would be way too big for even raptors if the ship was over 1000m long.&amp;quot; Thus the comment about lager spetialised ships. Also the triangle shape would be more structialy sound than ones shaped for raptors and at that size would fit&lt;br /&gt;
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See the seal in the background --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:59, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good Job Serenity!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:38, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn&#039;t create the article though :p --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:42, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, but you spotted the name on the seal.  Well, whoever spotted it first, good job!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:44, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyone else notice Tigh?--[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:47, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You mean the eye? This is probably flashback scene. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:50, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::With Admiral pips?[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;18:52, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The description below says &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander&#039;&#039;&#039; William Adama&amp;quot;, as opposed to the next photo. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:56, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The rank differences clearly IDs the photo spot as a flashback.  Look at the pips on the collar!  What are the left collar pips verses the rank pips on the right?  (Right-Left relative to the wearer) This is especially noticable on the Admiral Corman shot.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:02, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s most likely a flashback. Maybe Adama and Tigh served on the Valkyrie and that&#039;s where [[Bulldog]] was under Adama&#039;s command. I can&#039;t really make out the rank pins. They look a bigger than Commander&#039;s insignia, but the picture quality isn&#039;t that good --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:09, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another question, in 8 of 9 shot on that webpage, I am guessing its a flashback scene because Lee is wearing Captain&#039;s pips, but he also has a Battlestar Galactica badge on his shoulder.  I thought he wasn&#039;t assigned to the Galactica prior to the miniseries?  Is that the implication here or a clothing manfunction?  hehe...--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:26, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I read something that he might be demoted back to Captain. Not sure about it, but it makes sense. I guess they could keep him as Major or even Colonel, but there isn&#039;t really a job opening for a Commander at the moment. &lt;br /&gt;
:But looking at it more closely that might even be Major. Major and Captain look very similar, with Major having three chevron, the top one of which is directly on the diamond&#039;s edge --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:28, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The original [[Jackson Spencer|CAG]] of Galactica that we see was a Major. Also, in the Miniseries, Apollo didn&#039;t wear a unit patch at all on his shoulder when he got to Galactica, pehaps since he was in the Reserves. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:21, 3 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::In &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, the name plate on Lee&#039;s viper reads &amp;quot;Maj. Lee Adama&amp;quot;. So I don&#039;t think he will be demoted any time soon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:54, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve deleted this line &amp;quot;both William Adama and Saul Tigh served on the Valkyrie&amp;quot; this is not canon, also many rumors going around are that Adama was involved in a covert operations against the cylons so he might have simply gone to the Valkyrie to be issued orders or debriefed etc, point is, we don&#039;t know. --[[user:lordmutt|lordmutt]] 19:13, 10 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a two-minute video out there, that pretty much confirms that Adama and Tigh were sent to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; for a special mission. Something about using a stealth ship to make a reconnaissance flight into Cylon space. The ship was flown by Novacek who was then captured by the Cylons. I also like that this shoots down the silly theories that the Blackbird was the Colonial&#039;s first stealth ship. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:52, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Concur. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:55, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, wait, wait! In the episode, they showed a picture of the bridge crew of the Valkyrie that included Adama and Tigh. If they were simply assigned there for a single mission (and a covert one at that) they&#039;re not going to commemorate the occasion! Secondly, they wouldn&#039;t have assigned Tigh as well. The fewer people that knew about the mission, the better, plus there would be no reason to send another ship&#039;s XO. The Valkyrie is also described as Adama&#039;s last command before Galactica, which means that he was the commander of the ship, not an officer briefly assigned for a single mission. And why do you even have to ask if its a flashback? C&#039;mon, people, its pretty obvious that it was!--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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:Erm, note the date of this discussion. This was speculation before the episode aired. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Class / Type / Dimensions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now, for the time being, does &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; go down as a &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;-type Battlestar (until someone at the &amp;quot;Head Office&amp;quot; finally tells us details like this)? I &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; like how &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and now &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; are all different styles and sizes, but yet are still classified as &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;. This shows a degree of realism, creativity, and dynamicism among our intrepid Powers That Be &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re not going to pull the weak, canned trick of reusing the same model over and over and over again, ad nauseum. Also, &#039;&#039;hopefully&#039;&#039;, it stomps on &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; musings amongst certain overzealous fans of such genres as Star Wars and Star Trek who have this bad habit of immediately speculating and squabbling over if a ship is a battleship, destroyer, frigate, etc. In this case, it would seem that, regardless of size and/or layout, a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar. End of line.&lt;br /&gt;
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On that note, it would appear that &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is infact smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, perhaps with reduced capabilities (weapons and embarked Vipers and Raptors quantities, etc.), less crew. It would also appear that she has less engines in her differently shaped array, which would make sense for a smaller, less massive starship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, and unrelated to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; directly, that stealth recon craft was &#039;&#039;badass&#039;&#039;, wasn&#039;t it? -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 23:49, 17 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not so sure that the Valkyrie is a less capable ship than the Galactica.  From what Tigh said about Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;graceful retirement&#039; it seems that the Valkyrie was actually a pretty prestigious command.  I had always thought that commanding the Galactica was a great honor, but Tigh&#039;s words seem to indicate otherwise.  Ships tend to get smaller as the technology progresses because of the reduced manpower requirement.  Perhaps the smaller size of the Valkyrie is an indication of this.  Theres no real numbers for the dimensions of the Valkyrie or anything to scale it to, but I also got the sense that it was smaller than the Pegasus or Galactica.  --[[User:Antagonist|Antagonist]] 02:16, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I disagree with that.  A smaller ship is going to have less physical space to carry fighter craft and supplies.  If &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, then its gun batteries are smaller, which means they&#039;re firing lighter shells, which translates into less penetration, smaller warheads, less damage. A smaller ship has less volume to absorb damage with, meaning less staying power in a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t still be a prestigious command, though.  If it were a very new ship, even if it weren&#039;t the most powerful, it would still be a plum assignment.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s not always completely true. For example, the modern Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) class destroyer is about 500 feet long. It&#039;s replaced the 560 foot long Spruance and Kidd class destroyers and is also much more powerful than the old Long Beach (721 fl) and other old cruisers. It&#039;s almost as powerful as the other current surface warship, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, built on a Spruance hull. The only reason our modern carriers are so much larger than the old WWII bird farms, is that the planes are much larger now than they were back then. For instance, the lightweight F/A-18E Super Hornet is about 30,000lbs empty and 60 feet long. The old F6F Hellcat is 42 feet long and weighs under 10,000lbs. In conclusion, Valkryie, even smaller, could be much more powerful than the older Galactica. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:09, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But considering the timeframe, they aren&#039;t using radically different weapons and planes. Probably standard Mk VII Vipers or maybe MkVIs or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it&#039;s sort of like the escort carriers of WWII. Not usually meant to operate alone, but to give support to larger carriers, protect ships and support planetary operations. A support ship in Battlestar Groups that have a fullsized battlestar as main ship --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me of a point I forgot, the Mk II and Mk VII are of similar sizes, they can be launched from the same tubes and stored in the same parking spots on the hanger deck. I&#039;m thinking the Valkyrie is like the USS Wasp which was a miniture Yorktown, a small light carrier that can operate with the fleet carriers. The only difference is that the Valkryie would be more advanced than Galactica, instead of old and ineffective like the Wasp. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:38, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I find myself nodding in gleeful agreement to [[User:Talos|Talos]] and [[User:Serenity|Serenity&#039;s]] comments, but I must reply to [[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper&#039;s]] first &amp;amp;mdash; you&#039;re using the &amp;quot;bigger is better&amp;quot; mentality, and this is one of the two issues that burns at the heart of the fight amongst Star Wars fans on the topic of warships (and classification thereof, but I&#039;ll mention that later). Bigger &#039;&#039;is not&#039;&#039; better. Better is better. Different is better. Just because &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller (hypothetically speaking for the sake of example) doesn&#039;t mean she carries smaller weapons. From the recollection scenes alone, we can see that she has weaponry different, and in different locations, than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The elder battlestar lumps her primary &amp;quot;turrets&amp;quot; dorsalside and ventralside, and has her &amp;quot;flak-guns&amp;quot; lining the midline and flight pods. &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, by contrast, had turrets on the pods themselves, akin to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t want to chase specifics, but focus on the point that differences are &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re human; they&#039;re to be expected; they&#039;re in realistic keeping.&lt;br /&gt;
::It could be said that, perhaps, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; was as Talos and Serenity say, a lighter, more purposeful version of a battlestar for an accompaniment or specialized role. Less mass would mean that she&#039;d require less engines in her array, and perhaps have greater velocities/accelerations. She&#039;d require less crew. While still operating the same craft as any other battlestar, she &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have less of them. Who knows? The point is, she&#039;s different, but &#039;&#039;still a battlestar&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
::I bring in two examples from history: the case of the HMS &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; (ca. 1940) and the battleships of the US Navy during WWII. In &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;s&#039;&#039; story, she was, when WWII rolled around, the largest, longest warship in the British Navy, and was 262m long at 48,000 tonnes full load. By contrast, the &#039;&#039;Queen Elizabeth&#039;&#039;-class battleships were 197m at 33,000 tonnes. Both ships carried the same 15-in gun. Then, we throw in another WWII-era battleship, the &#039;&#039;King George V&#039;&#039;-class, which was 227m at 42,000 tonnes &amp;amp;mdash; but sported 14-in guns because the Admiralty, at the time, felt that a more quantitive broadside (10 over 8 or 9) would be more effective than the larger 15-in guns. I&#039;m not going to get into a running argument over details, but bring this up to point out that all three were battleships (&#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; was termed a &#039;&#039;battlecruiser&#039;&#039;, but the point stands), built by the &#039;&#039;same country&#039;&#039; in roughly a short period of time (within approximately 30 years), and all were used under similar circumstances, to varying success and failure. Similarly, the United States had their &amp;quot;holdover&amp;quot; dreadnaught-style battleships at the opening of WWII, but then churned out the &#039;&#039;New Mexico&#039;&#039;-class, the &#039;&#039;South Dakota&#039;&#039;-class, &#039;&#039;North Carolina&#039;&#039;-class, and &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-class. Each was indeed a battleship, but definitely different in terms of size, traits, and capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I may be getting a bit long-winded for such a trivial subject, but I can&#039;t express enough how &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; this great series is from Star Trek and Star Wars. Until proven otherwise, there aren&#039;t any carriers, battleships, cruisers, frigates, destroyers, corvettes, torpedo boats, etc. &amp;amp;mdash; there are &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;, and a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar, albeit in different shapes, forms, and sizes. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:26, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m thinking that it&#039;s just a smaller battlestar, fulfilling a similar role as the Mercuries and such on smaller displacement. Many realword navies are always attempting to do this. For example, before the Burke was finalized, various lightweight versions, sacrificing engines or Aegis, or other equipment, were designed. All of them tried to mimize displacement.The Treaty-era ships from the 1920-30&#039;s aren&#039;t the best examples to use here because they had an artificial limit imposed on them by the Washington and London Naval Treaties. Frequently, improved technology requires lesser manpower. The reason ships keep getting bigger historically is that they keep adding new technology, for instance, the cause of the massive destroyer size increase after WWII is mostly due to the inclusion of Weapon Alfa, guided missiles, and a huge increase in carried electronics. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 12:27, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, let&#039;s not make too big a deal about the size.  Here&#039;s a comparison of sizes of post-WWII aircraft carrier classess that I put together from wikipedia.org organized by when they were built:&lt;br /&gt;
CVL-48 Saipan class - 2 ships&lt;br /&gt;
14,500 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CVA-58 United States class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
83,350 tons full, 68,000 tons standard&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-59 Forrestal class - 4 ships&lt;br /&gt;
56,300 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-63 Kitty Hawk class - 3 ships&lt;br /&gt;
60,000 tons, 82,200 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-65 Enterprise class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
approx. 93,500 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-67 John F. Kennedy class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
60728 tons light, 82655 tons full&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-68 Nimitz class - 9 ships&lt;br /&gt;
101,000 to 104,000 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-78 21st Century Aircraft Carrier Project&lt;br /&gt;
100,000 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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If we equate Galactica, an older ship, to the USS United States and the Valkyrie to Forrestal Class and Pegasus to a Nimitz class, then Galactica would be clearly larger than the Valkyrie and Pegasus would clearly be much larger than both.  In the US Navy today, all these carriers have the exact same function, but vary in size by design and time.  However, they are all aircraft carriers.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 17:29, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[[User:Hawke|Hawke]], I don&#039;t understand where you&#039;re coming from.  I never said &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; wasn&#039;t a battlestar.  I said that if it&#039;s smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, then it cannot be as capable.  It cannot carry the same amount of fighters because its flight pods are smaller.  Its guns cannot be as large, and we know thanks to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; that guns like the ones &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; carries are still effective weapons.  It will not be able to absorb as much damage due to its smaller size.  I&#039;m honestly not sure what most of your post has to do with any of that.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think its also worth remembering that Galactica is 60 years old, and one of the first 12 Battlestars. Therefore Valkyrie must be a newer ship, which is suggested by some of its more Pegasusish design nods. Therefore yes it can quite easily be more powerful than Galactica, simply by having more modern technology. Yes Galactica will of been refitted and such and such, but refitting can only get you so far. If Galactica was able to hold its own next to newer ships it wouldn&#039;t of been about to be decommissioned when the series started. The fact is we don&#039;t know when Pegasus and Valkeryie were built, except that both most of been built post-Galactica&#039;s. That&#039;s probably also why Galactica is looked upon so harshly by Tigh. Galactica may of been in the fleet as an old relic. An old rust bucket that should of been decommissioned years ago. --[[User:CTerry|CTerry]] 18:05, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My thought are that we could gage the scale of the Valkyrie to the Galactica and Pegasus by looking at the flightpods. The width of the &amp;quot;mouth&amp;quot; should be the same as they all support and operate the vehicles - Vipers, Raptors and shuttles. Oh and the Shadow Star, can&#039;t forget that new one. The &amp;quot;banner&amp;quot; on the deck of each flightpod could be the same dimensions for landing purposes. As for the guns, I saw the one in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; of the Valkyrie, one behind it on the &amp;quot;body&amp;quot; and three on the flightpod like that of the Pegasus. Most seemed to have only one cannon, while the that&#039;s in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; appeared, in the firing sequence, to have two cannon. Cannon that fired a powered missle. The Galactica and Pegasus appeared, to me, to have the same type of main gun. The placement was not the same though. I&#039;v been also thinking of the Galactica as being like a World War 2 carrier, since it had &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot; but uprated for modern operation. The Pegasus was a product of more modern times and doesn&#039;t appear to have any &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot;. Due to the guns on the Valkyrie, I&#039;d guess that it was perhaps the most modern design. Those main guns could be a newer design then those on Pegasus, unless they are a new &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot;. In the long run, I have to agree that it appears to be smaller and serve a slightly different purpose in the BSG, maybe a battlescruiser type to the battleship type that Galactica and Pegasus play. I can&#039;t but also say that perhaps, these ships could be treated as ships-of-the-line as in the age of sail. Interesting design, pity we&#039;ll never get to see more of it, unless Zoic is kind and releases some orthos of it. Or maybe some book comes out with orthos of all the Colonial ships and craft.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I found some screencaps and came up with these numbers (assuming symmetry, which I thought reasonable, given other Colonial designs):&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the head&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x Heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the main body, above the flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x more alcoves on either side of the main body that may or may not contain heavy gun turrets; There weren&#039;t any shots close enough for me to be certain.&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x heavy gun turret on either side of the dorsal crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x possible heavy gun turrets aft of the dorsal crest.  The image was from too far awawy to be sure, but they look quite similar to the ones astride the crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x heavy gun turrets on the dorsal surface of the flight-pods, one foreward and one aft.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x light gun turrets in alcoves on the side of each flight-pod.  There were only three in-frame in the picture I saw them in, but it also only covered the foreward part of the flight pod, so there could be more.&lt;br /&gt;
:Having no images of the ship&#039;s underside, there&#039;s no way to tell what armament she has there.&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as I could tell, all the heavy gun turrets had two barrels.  The lighter gun turrets are harder to make out, but they appear to be twin-barreled emplacements as well.  They are definately smaller than the heavy turrets, though.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the armaments of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, the heavy turrets on both are indeed extremely similar in appearance.  &#039;&#039;Both&#039;&#039; possess extensive flak suites of lighter, rapid-fire guns. Although I&#039;ve been unable to visually identify any of the emplacements on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, I&#039;ve certainly seen them firing.&lt;br /&gt;
:The way I see it, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is a much smaller design, fitted with commensurately smaller weaponry, meant to support the heavier ships in a BSG like the &#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039;-class.  More of a cruiser to their battleship, than a battlecruiser.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda thought Valkyrie was a smaller battlestar, much like the Independence class light carriers of World War II or the support carriers (CVS) that the WW II era Essex class ships became.  Essentially these ships were designed to undertake missions that didn&#039;t warrant the use of a big carrier. The CVL Independence, for example, was one of the first carriers deployed for night operations. Essex and her sisters were used for antisubmarine and amphibious operations. If Valkyrie were a ship of this type it would make more sense for her to be assigned a black op, since arguably she would be a somewhat less threatening presence than a full sized battlestar, and she would also be more expendable if something went wrong. I propose the term &amp;quot;Light Battlestar&amp;quot; to describe this ship. :)  [[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 20:44, 20 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is an intermediate design somewhere between &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  As far as size goes, I think its comparable in dimensions to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and therefore slightly smaller than &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. If you use the width and length of the flight pods as a scale, then &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is very similar to the other battlestars we&#039;ve seen.  The perception of small size I think is due to the narrower engine pods and propulsion section in the rear.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has the addtional four engines from a refit that make her rear end wider, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had more engines to begin with.  The width of the bow and the overall length of the ship is about the same for all three.  [[User:Maserati1945|Maserati1945]] 02:41, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could just be Pegasus and Galactica where built for long-term combat operations and journeys where as the Valkyrie might not be designed for extended journeys, which is of course much more suitable to a covert operation. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:00, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guns on the Valkyrie seem, to me, to be rail guns similar to those onboard the Galactica and Pegasus. These latter two have a larger &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot; of cannon, but I think this could explain the firing of the missle and other types of ordance. Galactica and Pegasus can fire differing loads similtaniously, as opposed to Valkyrie. Now here&#039;s a question - I&#039;ve noticed in some captures, what looks like the phaser emitters on the Enterprise-A, covering a number of areas of the Valkyrie. Could they be the AA guns?[[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 18:00, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re referring to those hemisphereical blisters on the flight-pod connector spars, and elsewhere?  If so, I think we haven&#039;t got enough information.  I can&#039;t make out anything that might be gunbarrels on any of them, I haven&#039;t got any detailed enough shots of them.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just did a quick measurement comparison to the Galactica and the Valkyrie. I compared the flightpod openings for width and found that the Vlakyrie would be roughly half as long as the Galactica IF the width is the same for all Battlestars, ie. for receiving the same types of craft (eg. Shuttles, Raptors and Vipers). [[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 22:07, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just comparing the flight pods myself.  I haven&#039;t had time to do anything particularly in-depth, but I looked at the landing strips relative to the width of the pods&#039; foreward and aft openings.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; both look like they&#039;ve got another landing-strip&#039;s width to either side of the actual strip, and from what I recall, the strips on both ships are about the same size compared to Vipers.  Assuming the &#039;&#039;strip&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is the same size, then an eyeball estimate looks to me like there&#039;s about half a strip&#039;s width to either side of the landing strip on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, which would make it two thirds the width of the pods on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok my theory is that Valkyrie&#039;s main mission is patrol and if it finds something it sends a signal to a bigger ship and holds the threat off until a more powerful ship comes. Snorkel378&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, maybe I&#039;m missin&#039; something here, but where did you all get the idea that Valkyrie was smaller? We&#039;ve got no real basis for comparison between the ships except the flight pods and the missile. The Missile looked about the same size compared to the Valkyrie as the missiles that Pegasus and Galactica have fired looked compared to them. And the views we have of the flight pods are so vague that there&#039;s nothing we can really assume based on them. I think that Valkyrie is roughly the same size as Pegasus or Galactica, and is most likely a newer model than Galactica, but a slightly older model than Pegasus, as it appears to have similar design features to both ships (it has the same engine setup and CIC as Pegasus, but the bow and flight pod design looks closer to Galactica-type ships).--[[User:Sci-fi Junkee|Sci-fi Junkee]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s mainly the size of the gun turrets compared to the rest of the ship. If not smaller, it would have very large turrets --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:45, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Can we maybe get some pictures, cause that would help clear this whole mess up for me.--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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==Related Images==&lt;br /&gt;
I removed the image  File:Valkyrie, Scorpion Shipyards.Jpg as when I look at the Valkyrie in the episode &#039;Heros&#039; it is clear that the pics is not of a Va;kyrie typ battlestar, but is in fact a Galactica type (likely uprated) that is seen in dock at Scorpian Shipyards in &#039;Razor&#039; [[User:Einar|Einar]] 1829 (PST), 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number / Designation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Am I seeing this right? From the capture, it looks like &#039;&#039;&#039;BSG 41&#039;&#039;&#039; on the seal. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:47, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In case you still don&#039;t know, as nobody replied, yes its 41. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:59, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Miniseries appearance? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Miniseries Mystery Ship.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery ship? ([[Miniseries]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I was watching the miniseries the other day and early in I could swear that the Valkyrie or a battlestar of the same make shows up. It&#039;s the same shot through the Caprica City doctor&#039;s window that shows the Firefly and Olympic Carrier-type ship. Is it just me or does anyone else see it? [[User:Motherfraker|Motherfraker]] 16:23, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just found a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aUZSKHhRXs clip on youtube] showing Serenity fly past and you can clearly see the mystery ship. Its certainly very large and looks like it may have 6 engines but I dont think its a battlestar. The middle section isnt big enough and the nose section is too pointy. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:01, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve noticed this ship before, and always presumed it was a [[Memoryalpha:Hirogen Warship]](not in BSG canon, obviously) from Star Trek. There are several instances of CG starship models from Star Trek appearing in Firefly as background ships, and as we know Serenity herself is seen in this scene, so it&#039;s possible that this vessel was put in as an &amp;quot;extra&amp;quot; to fill up space on the screen. I don&#039;t see any resemblance to the Valkyrie, but I could believe that this was a Colonial military craft of some sort.&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a picture of the Hirogen ship for reference: www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/hirogen-venatic-cgi.jpg --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 18:57, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MysteryShip.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery Ship ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not the Valkyrie, I think it&#039;s just a background ship because it appeared again at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] during the fleet&#039;s emergency jump as seen in the screenshot provided here. -- [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:54, 22 November 2006 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
:Its a pretty cool looking ship though. It looks quote powerful, definitly fast with 5 engines. We have a page about most of the ships on the wiki, could we garner enough information about this to make a page. Its quite possible it has made appearances in other episodes too and could even have an official name as there are many ships in the &amp;quot;mentioned only&amp;quot; category. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a rough design for a page [[Five-engined vessel|here]]. What do people think? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:53, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks good to me. I was going to point out the incorrect caption but it looks like you caught it.--[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 09:44, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridge. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I meant to say CIC. Must stop watching Star Trek...--[[User:Helo87|Helo87]]&lt;br /&gt;
:To be fair, when taking modern day nomenclature into account, its function is closer to a bridge. That&#039;s where a ship is steered from. The CIC is where all sensor information is collected and evaluated. In BSG they throw that together, but I kinda like that they use a different term for a change. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 00:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surrviving Battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, how do you know ALL the other battlestars were destroyed?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Well, for one, &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; made it clear that the Cylon&#039;s attack was an overwhelming success. Further, RDM&#039;s made some comments in the past to that effect. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did RDM specifically say that there are definately NO other surrviving battlestars?  Is it absolutely certain?  I&#039;m one of those people who still believes theres a possibility that another one may yet be found.[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 13:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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1) the size of the launch tubes if valk is 1200m is somthing I haddent considered before. I hope that I have provided a good posible explination and have writen it in such a way so that it didn&#039;t seem 1 sided. If you plan to rewrite it please do so in a nutral way. The desiners made some mistakes with the valk and these launch tubes were one of them. They were probably just slaped on there to make it look diffrent and the desinger desided that having 3 looked the coolest. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) The turret argument is starting to anoy me. There is no reason that galactica style turrets could not be used on the Valk, regardless of it&#039;s size. They could easly have been scaled to match the ships size. It is clear from hero that Valks turrets work in a diffrent way thus a diffrent desinge. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) could someone please point out these &amp;quot;meny desinge features that surgest a smaller scale&amp;quot;. In my view the evidence sugests a larger ship the visual evidence in razor right down to dialog about it Being a better comand have drawn me to this conclution. &lt;br /&gt;
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4) Altogh I realize that there are only 4 engnies I do wish there 6 and have heard meany people clame that is the case, even with this evidence. I do not think that the posibleity of extra engnies that can&#039;t be seen should be ruled out. There could be some behined the flap. &lt;br /&gt;
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See the seal in the background --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:59, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good Job Serenity!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:38, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn&#039;t create the article though :p --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:42, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, but you spotted the name on the seal.  Well, whoever spotted it first, good job!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:44, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyone else notice Tigh?--[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:47, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You mean the eye? This is probably flashback scene. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:50, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::With Admiral pips?[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;18:52, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The description below says &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander&#039;&#039;&#039; William Adama&amp;quot;, as opposed to the next photo. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:56, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The rank differences clearly IDs the photo spot as a flashback.  Look at the pips on the collar!  What are the left collar pips verses the rank pips on the right?  (Right-Left relative to the wearer) This is especially noticable on the Admiral Corman shot.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:02, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s most likely a flashback. Maybe Adama and Tigh served on the Valkyrie and that&#039;s where [[Bulldog]] was under Adama&#039;s command. I can&#039;t really make out the rank pins. They look a bigger than Commander&#039;s insignia, but the picture quality isn&#039;t that good --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:09, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another question, in 8 of 9 shot on that webpage, I am guessing its a flashback scene because Lee is wearing Captain&#039;s pips, but he also has a Battlestar Galactica badge on his shoulder.  I thought he wasn&#039;t assigned to the Galactica prior to the miniseries?  Is that the implication here or a clothing manfunction?  hehe...--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:26, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I read something that he might be demoted back to Captain. Not sure about it, but it makes sense. I guess they could keep him as Major or even Colonel, but there isn&#039;t really a job opening for a Commander at the moment. &lt;br /&gt;
:But looking at it more closely that might even be Major. Major and Captain look very similar, with Major having three chevron, the top one of which is directly on the diamond&#039;s edge --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:28, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The original [[Jackson Spencer|CAG]] of Galactica that we see was a Major. Also, in the Miniseries, Apollo didn&#039;t wear a unit patch at all on his shoulder when he got to Galactica, pehaps since he was in the Reserves. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:21, 3 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::In &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, the name plate on Lee&#039;s viper reads &amp;quot;Maj. Lee Adama&amp;quot;. So I don&#039;t think he will be demoted any time soon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:54, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve deleted this line &amp;quot;both William Adama and Saul Tigh served on the Valkyrie&amp;quot; this is not canon, also many rumors going around are that Adama was involved in a covert operations against the cylons so he might have simply gone to the Valkyrie to be issued orders or debriefed etc, point is, we don&#039;t know. --[[user:lordmutt|lordmutt]] 19:13, 10 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a two-minute video out there, that pretty much confirms that Adama and Tigh were sent to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; for a special mission. Something about using a stealth ship to make a reconnaissance flight into Cylon space. The ship was flown by Novacek who was then captured by the Cylons. I also like that this shoots down the silly theories that the Blackbird was the Colonial&#039;s first stealth ship. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:52, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Concur. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:55, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, wait, wait! In the episode, they showed a picture of the bridge crew of the Valkyrie that included Adama and Tigh. If they were simply assigned there for a single mission (and a covert one at that) they&#039;re not going to commemorate the occasion! Secondly, they wouldn&#039;t have assigned Tigh as well. The fewer people that knew about the mission, the better, plus there would be no reason to send another ship&#039;s XO. The Valkyrie is also described as Adama&#039;s last command before Galactica, which means that he was the commander of the ship, not an officer briefly assigned for a single mission. And why do you even have to ask if its a flashback? C&#039;mon, people, its pretty obvious that it was!--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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:Erm, note the date of this discussion. This was speculation before the episode aired. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Class / Type / Dimensions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now, for the time being, does &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; go down as a &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;-type Battlestar (until someone at the &amp;quot;Head Office&amp;quot; finally tells us details like this)? I &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; like how &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and now &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; are all different styles and sizes, but yet are still classified as &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;. This shows a degree of realism, creativity, and dynamicism among our intrepid Powers That Be &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re not going to pull the weak, canned trick of reusing the same model over and over and over again, ad nauseum. Also, &#039;&#039;hopefully&#039;&#039;, it stomps on &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; musings amongst certain overzealous fans of such genres as Star Wars and Star Trek who have this bad habit of immediately speculating and squabbling over if a ship is a battleship, destroyer, frigate, etc. In this case, it would seem that, regardless of size and/or layout, a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar. End of line.&lt;br /&gt;
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On that note, it would appear that &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is infact smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, perhaps with reduced capabilities (weapons and embarked Vipers and Raptors quantities, etc.), less crew. It would also appear that she has less engines in her differently shaped array, which would make sense for a smaller, less massive starship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, and unrelated to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; directly, that stealth recon craft was &#039;&#039;badass&#039;&#039;, wasn&#039;t it? -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 23:49, 17 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not so sure that the Valkyrie is a less capable ship than the Galactica.  From what Tigh said about Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;graceful retirement&#039; it seems that the Valkyrie was actually a pretty prestigious command.  I had always thought that commanding the Galactica was a great honor, but Tigh&#039;s words seem to indicate otherwise.  Ships tend to get smaller as the technology progresses because of the reduced manpower requirement.  Perhaps the smaller size of the Valkyrie is an indication of this.  Theres no real numbers for the dimensions of the Valkyrie or anything to scale it to, but I also got the sense that it was smaller than the Pegasus or Galactica.  --[[User:Antagonist|Antagonist]] 02:16, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I disagree with that.  A smaller ship is going to have less physical space to carry fighter craft and supplies.  If &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, then its gun batteries are smaller, which means they&#039;re firing lighter shells, which translates into less penetration, smaller warheads, less damage. A smaller ship has less volume to absorb damage with, meaning less staying power in a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t still be a prestigious command, though.  If it were a very new ship, even if it weren&#039;t the most powerful, it would still be a plum assignment.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s not always completely true. For example, the modern Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) class destroyer is about 500 feet long. It&#039;s replaced the 560 foot long Spruance and Kidd class destroyers and is also much more powerful than the old Long Beach (721 fl) and other old cruisers. It&#039;s almost as powerful as the other current surface warship, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, built on a Spruance hull. The only reason our modern carriers are so much larger than the old WWII bird farms, is that the planes are much larger now than they were back then. For instance, the lightweight F/A-18E Super Hornet is about 30,000lbs empty and 60 feet long. The old F6F Hellcat is 42 feet long and weighs under 10,000lbs. In conclusion, Valkryie, even smaller, could be much more powerful than the older Galactica. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:09, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But considering the timeframe, they aren&#039;t using radically different weapons and planes. Probably standard Mk VII Vipers or maybe MkVIs or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it&#039;s sort of like the escort carriers of WWII. Not usually meant to operate alone, but to give support to larger carriers, protect ships and support planetary operations. A support ship in Battlestar Groups that have a fullsized battlestar as main ship --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me of a point I forgot, the Mk II and Mk VII are of similar sizes, they can be launched from the same tubes and stored in the same parking spots on the hanger deck. I&#039;m thinking the Valkyrie is like the USS Wasp which was a miniture Yorktown, a small light carrier that can operate with the fleet carriers. The only difference is that the Valkryie would be more advanced than Galactica, instead of old and ineffective like the Wasp. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:38, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I find myself nodding in gleeful agreement to [[User:Talos|Talos]] and [[User:Serenity|Serenity&#039;s]] comments, but I must reply to [[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper&#039;s]] first &amp;amp;mdash; you&#039;re using the &amp;quot;bigger is better&amp;quot; mentality, and this is one of the two issues that burns at the heart of the fight amongst Star Wars fans on the topic of warships (and classification thereof, but I&#039;ll mention that later). Bigger &#039;&#039;is not&#039;&#039; better. Better is better. Different is better. Just because &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller (hypothetically speaking for the sake of example) doesn&#039;t mean she carries smaller weapons. From the recollection scenes alone, we can see that she has weaponry different, and in different locations, than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The elder battlestar lumps her primary &amp;quot;turrets&amp;quot; dorsalside and ventralside, and has her &amp;quot;flak-guns&amp;quot; lining the midline and flight pods. &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, by contrast, had turrets on the pods themselves, akin to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t want to chase specifics, but focus on the point that differences are &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re human; they&#039;re to be expected; they&#039;re in realistic keeping.&lt;br /&gt;
::It could be said that, perhaps, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; was as Talos and Serenity say, a lighter, more purposeful version of a battlestar for an accompaniment or specialized role. Less mass would mean that she&#039;d require less engines in her array, and perhaps have greater velocities/accelerations. She&#039;d require less crew. While still operating the same craft as any other battlestar, she &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have less of them. Who knows? The point is, she&#039;s different, but &#039;&#039;still a battlestar&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
::I bring in two examples from history: the case of the HMS &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; (ca. 1940) and the battleships of the US Navy during WWII. In &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;s&#039;&#039; story, she was, when WWII rolled around, the largest, longest warship in the British Navy, and was 262m long at 48,000 tonnes full load. By contrast, the &#039;&#039;Queen Elizabeth&#039;&#039;-class battleships were 197m at 33,000 tonnes. Both ships carried the same 15-in gun. Then, we throw in another WWII-era battleship, the &#039;&#039;King George V&#039;&#039;-class, which was 227m at 42,000 tonnes &amp;amp;mdash; but sported 14-in guns because the Admiralty, at the time, felt that a more quantitive broadside (10 over 8 or 9) would be more effective than the larger 15-in guns. I&#039;m not going to get into a running argument over details, but bring this up to point out that all three were battleships (&#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; was termed a &#039;&#039;battlecruiser&#039;&#039;, but the point stands), built by the &#039;&#039;same country&#039;&#039; in roughly a short period of time (within approximately 30 years), and all were used under similar circumstances, to varying success and failure. Similarly, the United States had their &amp;quot;holdover&amp;quot; dreadnaught-style battleships at the opening of WWII, but then churned out the &#039;&#039;New Mexico&#039;&#039;-class, the &#039;&#039;South Dakota&#039;&#039;-class, &#039;&#039;North Carolina&#039;&#039;-class, and &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-class. Each was indeed a battleship, but definitely different in terms of size, traits, and capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I may be getting a bit long-winded for such a trivial subject, but I can&#039;t express enough how &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; this great series is from Star Trek and Star Wars. Until proven otherwise, there aren&#039;t any carriers, battleships, cruisers, frigates, destroyers, corvettes, torpedo boats, etc. &amp;amp;mdash; there are &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;, and a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar, albeit in different shapes, forms, and sizes. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:26, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m thinking that it&#039;s just a smaller battlestar, fulfilling a similar role as the Mercuries and such on smaller displacement. Many realword navies are always attempting to do this. For example, before the Burke was finalized, various lightweight versions, sacrificing engines or Aegis, or other equipment, were designed. All of them tried to mimize displacement.The Treaty-era ships from the 1920-30&#039;s aren&#039;t the best examples to use here because they had an artificial limit imposed on them by the Washington and London Naval Treaties. Frequently, improved technology requires lesser manpower. The reason ships keep getting bigger historically is that they keep adding new technology, for instance, the cause of the massive destroyer size increase after WWII is mostly due to the inclusion of Weapon Alfa, guided missiles, and a huge increase in carried electronics. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 12:27, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, let&#039;s not make too big a deal about the size.  Here&#039;s a comparison of sizes of post-WWII aircraft carrier classess that I put together from wikipedia.org organized by when they were built:&lt;br /&gt;
CVL-48 Saipan class - 2 ships&lt;br /&gt;
14,500 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CVA-58 United States class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
83,350 tons full, 68,000 tons standard&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-59 Forrestal class - 4 ships&lt;br /&gt;
56,300 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-63 Kitty Hawk class - 3 ships&lt;br /&gt;
60,000 tons, 82,200 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-65 Enterprise class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
approx. 93,500 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-67 John F. Kennedy class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
60728 tons light, 82655 tons full&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-68 Nimitz class - 9 ships&lt;br /&gt;
101,000 to 104,000 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-78 21st Century Aircraft Carrier Project&lt;br /&gt;
100,000 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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If we equate Galactica, an older ship, to the USS United States and the Valkyrie to Forrestal Class and Pegasus to a Nimitz class, then Galactica would be clearly larger than the Valkyrie and Pegasus would clearly be much larger than both.  In the US Navy today, all these carriers have the exact same function, but vary in size by design and time.  However, they are all aircraft carriers.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 17:29, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[[User:Hawke|Hawke]], I don&#039;t understand where you&#039;re coming from.  I never said &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; wasn&#039;t a battlestar.  I said that if it&#039;s smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, then it cannot be as capable.  It cannot carry the same amount of fighters because its flight pods are smaller.  Its guns cannot be as large, and we know thanks to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; that guns like the ones &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; carries are still effective weapons.  It will not be able to absorb as much damage due to its smaller size.  I&#039;m honestly not sure what most of your post has to do with any of that.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think its also worth remembering that Galactica is 60 years old, and one of the first 12 Battlestars. Therefore Valkyrie must be a newer ship, which is suggested by some of its more Pegasusish design nods. Therefore yes it can quite easily be more powerful than Galactica, simply by having more modern technology. Yes Galactica will of been refitted and such and such, but refitting can only get you so far. If Galactica was able to hold its own next to newer ships it wouldn&#039;t of been about to be decommissioned when the series started. The fact is we don&#039;t know when Pegasus and Valkeryie were built, except that both most of been built post-Galactica&#039;s. That&#039;s probably also why Galactica is looked upon so harshly by Tigh. Galactica may of been in the fleet as an old relic. An old rust bucket that should of been decommissioned years ago. --[[User:CTerry|CTerry]] 18:05, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My thought are that we could gage the scale of the Valkyrie to the Galactica and Pegasus by looking at the flightpods. The width of the &amp;quot;mouth&amp;quot; should be the same as they all support and operate the vehicles - Vipers, Raptors and shuttles. Oh and the Shadow Star, can&#039;t forget that new one. The &amp;quot;banner&amp;quot; on the deck of each flightpod could be the same dimensions for landing purposes. As for the guns, I saw the one in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; of the Valkyrie, one behind it on the &amp;quot;body&amp;quot; and three on the flightpod like that of the Pegasus. Most seemed to have only one cannon, while the that&#039;s in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; appeared, in the firing sequence, to have two cannon. Cannon that fired a powered missle. The Galactica and Pegasus appeared, to me, to have the same type of main gun. The placement was not the same though. I&#039;v been also thinking of the Galactica as being like a World War 2 carrier, since it had &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot; but uprated for modern operation. The Pegasus was a product of more modern times and doesn&#039;t appear to have any &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot;. Due to the guns on the Valkyrie, I&#039;d guess that it was perhaps the most modern design. Those main guns could be a newer design then those on Pegasus, unless they are a new &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot;. In the long run, I have to agree that it appears to be smaller and serve a slightly different purpose in the BSG, maybe a battlescruiser type to the battleship type that Galactica and Pegasus play. I can&#039;t but also say that perhaps, these ships could be treated as ships-of-the-line as in the age of sail. Interesting design, pity we&#039;ll never get to see more of it, unless Zoic is kind and releases some orthos of it. Or maybe some book comes out with orthos of all the Colonial ships and craft.&lt;br /&gt;
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::1 x heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the head&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x Heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the main body, above the flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x more alcoves on either side of the main body that may or may not contain heavy gun turrets; There weren&#039;t any shots close enough for me to be certain.&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x heavy gun turret on either side of the dorsal crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x possible heavy gun turrets aft of the dorsal crest.  The image was from too far awawy to be sure, but they look quite similar to the ones astride the crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x heavy gun turrets on the dorsal surface of the flight-pods, one foreward and one aft.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x light gun turrets in alcoves on the side of each flight-pod.  There were only three in-frame in the picture I saw them in, but it also only covered the foreward part of the flight pod, so there could be more.&lt;br /&gt;
:Having no images of the ship&#039;s underside, there&#039;s no way to tell what armament she has there.&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as I could tell, all the heavy gun turrets had two barrels.  The lighter gun turrets are harder to make out, but they appear to be twin-barreled emplacements as well.  They are definately smaller than the heavy turrets, though.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the armaments of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, the heavy turrets on both are indeed extremely similar in appearance.  &#039;&#039;Both&#039;&#039; possess extensive flak suites of lighter, rapid-fire guns. Although I&#039;ve been unable to visually identify any of the emplacements on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, I&#039;ve certainly seen them firing.&lt;br /&gt;
:The way I see it, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is a much smaller design, fitted with commensurately smaller weaponry, meant to support the heavier ships in a BSG like the &#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039;-class.  More of a cruiser to their battleship, than a battlecruiser.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda thought Valkyrie was a smaller battlestar, much like the Independence class light carriers of World War II or the support carriers (CVS) that the WW II era Essex class ships became.  Essentially these ships were designed to undertake missions that didn&#039;t warrant the use of a big carrier. The CVL Independence, for example, was one of the first carriers deployed for night operations. Essex and her sisters were used for antisubmarine and amphibious operations. If Valkyrie were a ship of this type it would make more sense for her to be assigned a black op, since arguably she would be a somewhat less threatening presence than a full sized battlestar, and she would also be more expendable if something went wrong. I propose the term &amp;quot;Light Battlestar&amp;quot; to describe this ship. :)  [[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 20:44, 20 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is an intermediate design somewhere between &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  As far as size goes, I think its comparable in dimensions to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and therefore slightly smaller than &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. If you use the width and length of the flight pods as a scale, then &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is very similar to the other battlestars we&#039;ve seen.  The perception of small size I think is due to the narrower engine pods and propulsion section in the rear.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has the addtional four engines from a refit that make her rear end wider, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had more engines to begin with.  The width of the bow and the overall length of the ship is about the same for all three.  [[User:Maserati1945|Maserati1945]] 02:41, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could just be Pegasus and Galactica where built for long-term combat operations and journeys where as the Valkyrie might not be designed for extended journeys, which is of course much more suitable to a covert operation. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:00, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guns on the Valkyrie seem, to me, to be rail guns similar to those onboard the Galactica and Pegasus. These latter two have a larger &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot; of cannon, but I think this could explain the firing of the missle and other types of ordance. Galactica and Pegasus can fire differing loads similtaniously, as opposed to Valkyrie. Now here&#039;s a question - I&#039;ve noticed in some captures, what looks like the phaser emitters on the Enterprise-A, covering a number of areas of the Valkyrie. Could they be the AA guns?[[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 18:00, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re referring to those hemisphereical blisters on the flight-pod connector spars, and elsewhere?  If so, I think we haven&#039;t got enough information.  I can&#039;t make out anything that might be gunbarrels on any of them, I haven&#039;t got any detailed enough shots of them.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just did a quick measurement comparison to the Galactica and the Valkyrie. I compared the flightpod openings for width and found that the Vlakyrie would be roughly half as long as the Galactica IF the width is the same for all Battlestars, ie. for receiving the same types of craft (eg. Shuttles, Raptors and Vipers). [[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 22:07, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just comparing the flight pods myself.  I haven&#039;t had time to do anything particularly in-depth, but I looked at the landing strips relative to the width of the pods&#039; foreward and aft openings.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; both look like they&#039;ve got another landing-strip&#039;s width to either side of the actual strip, and from what I recall, the strips on both ships are about the same size compared to Vipers.  Assuming the &#039;&#039;strip&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is the same size, then an eyeball estimate looks to me like there&#039;s about half a strip&#039;s width to either side of the landing strip on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, which would make it two thirds the width of the pods on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok my theory is that Valkyrie&#039;s main mission is patrol and if it finds something it sends a signal to a bigger ship and holds the threat off until a more powerful ship comes. Snorkel378&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, maybe I&#039;m missin&#039; something here, but where did you all get the idea that Valkyrie was smaller? We&#039;ve got no real basis for comparison between the ships except the flight pods and the missile. The Missile looked about the same size compared to the Valkyrie as the missiles that Pegasus and Galactica have fired looked compared to them. And the views we have of the flight pods are so vague that there&#039;s nothing we can really assume based on them. I think that Valkyrie is roughly the same size as Pegasus or Galactica, and is most likely a newer model than Galactica, but a slightly older model than Pegasus, as it appears to have similar design features to both ships (it has the same engine setup and CIC as Pegasus, but the bow and flight pod design looks closer to Galactica-type ships).--[[User:Sci-fi Junkee|Sci-fi Junkee]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s mainly the size of the gun turrets compared to the rest of the ship. If not smaller, it would have very large turrets --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:45, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Can we maybe get some pictures, cause that would help clear this whole mess up for me.--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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==Related Images==&lt;br /&gt;
I removed the image  File:Valkyrie, Scorpion Shipyards.Jpg as when I look at the Valkyrie in the episode &#039;Heros&#039; it is clear that the pics is not of a Va;kyrie typ battlestar, but is in fact a Galactica type (likely uprated) that is seen in dock at Scorpian Shipyards in &#039;Razor&#039; [[User:Einar|Einar]] 1829 (PST), 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number / Designation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Am I seeing this right? From the capture, it looks like &#039;&#039;&#039;BSG 41&#039;&#039;&#039; on the seal. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:47, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In case you still don&#039;t know, as nobody replied, yes its 41. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:59, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Miniseries appearance? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Miniseries Mystery Ship.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery ship? ([[Miniseries]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I was watching the miniseries the other day and early in I could swear that the Valkyrie or a battlestar of the same make shows up. It&#039;s the same shot through the Caprica City doctor&#039;s window that shows the Firefly and Olympic Carrier-type ship. Is it just me or does anyone else see it? [[User:Motherfraker|Motherfraker]] 16:23, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just found a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aUZSKHhRXs clip on youtube] showing Serenity fly past and you can clearly see the mystery ship. Its certainly very large and looks like it may have 6 engines but I dont think its a battlestar. The middle section isnt big enough and the nose section is too pointy. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:01, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve noticed this ship before, and always presumed it was a [[Memoryalpha:Hirogen Warship]](not in BSG canon, obviously) from Star Trek. There are several instances of CG starship models from Star Trek appearing in Firefly as background ships, and as we know Serenity herself is seen in this scene, so it&#039;s possible that this vessel was put in as an &amp;quot;extra&amp;quot; to fill up space on the screen. I don&#039;t see any resemblance to the Valkyrie, but I could believe that this was a Colonial military craft of some sort.&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a picture of the Hirogen ship for reference: www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/hirogen-venatic-cgi.jpg --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 18:57, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MysteryShip.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery Ship ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not the Valkyrie, I think it&#039;s just a background ship because it appeared again at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] during the fleet&#039;s emergency jump as seen in the screenshot provided here. -- [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:54, 22 November 2006 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
:Its a pretty cool looking ship though. It looks quote powerful, definitly fast with 5 engines. We have a page about most of the ships on the wiki, could we garner enough information about this to make a page. Its quite possible it has made appearances in other episodes too and could even have an official name as there are many ships in the &amp;quot;mentioned only&amp;quot; category. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a rough design for a page [[Five-engined vessel|here]]. What do people think? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:53, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks good to me. I was going to point out the incorrect caption but it looks like you caught it.--[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 09:44, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridge. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I meant to say CIC. Must stop watching Star Trek...--[[User:Helo87|Helo87]]&lt;br /&gt;
:To be fair, when taking modern day nomenclature into account, its function is closer to a bridge. That&#039;s where a ship is steered from. The CIC is where all sensor information is collected and evaluated. In BSG they throw that together, but I kinda like that they use a different term for a change. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 00:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surrviving Battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, how do you know ALL the other battlestars were destroyed?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Well, for one, &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; made it clear that the Cylon&#039;s attack was an overwhelming success. Further, RDM&#039;s made some comments in the past to that effect. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did RDM specifically say that there are definately NO other surrviving battlestars?  Is it absolutely certain?  I&#039;m one of those people who still believes theres a possibility that another one may yet be found.[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 13:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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1) the size of the launch tubes if valk is 1200m is somthing I haddent considered before. I hope that I have provided a good posible explination and have writen it in such a way so that it didn&#039;t seem 1 sided. If you plan to rewrite it please do so in a nutral way. The desiners made some mistakes with the valk and these launch tubes were one of them. They were probably just slaped on there to make it look diffrent and the desinger desided that having 3 looked the coolest. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) The turret argument is starting to anoy me. There is no reason that galactica style turrets could be used on the Valk, regardless of it&#039;s size. They could easly have been scaled to match the ships size. It is clear from hero that Valks turrets work in a diffrent way thus a diffrent desinge. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) could someone please point out these &amp;quot;meny desinge features that surgest a smaller scale&amp;quot;. In my view the evidence sugests a larger ship the visual evidence in razor right down to dialog about it Being a better comand have drawn me to this conclution. &lt;br /&gt;
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4) Altogh I realize that there are only 4 engnies I do wish there 6 and have heard meany people clame that is the case, even with this evidence. I do not think that the posibleity of extra engnies that can&#039;t be seen should be ruled out. There could be some behined the flaps.&lt;br /&gt;
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See the seal in the background --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:59, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good Job Serenity!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:38, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn&#039;t create the article though :p --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:42, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, but you spotted the name on the seal.  Well, whoever spotted it first, good job!--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 18:44, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyone else notice Tigh?--[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:47, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You mean the eye? This is probably flashback scene. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:50, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::With Admiral pips?[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;18:52, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The description below says &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Commander&#039;&#039;&#039; William Adama&amp;quot;, as opposed to the next photo. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:56, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The rank differences clearly IDs the photo spot as a flashback.  Look at the pips on the collar!  What are the left collar pips verses the rank pips on the right?  (Right-Left relative to the wearer) This is especially noticable on the Admiral Corman shot.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:02, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s most likely a flashback. Maybe Adama and Tigh served on the Valkyrie and that&#039;s where [[Bulldog]] was under Adama&#039;s command. I can&#039;t really make out the rank pins. They look a bigger than Commander&#039;s insignia, but the picture quality isn&#039;t that good --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:09, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another question, in 8 of 9 shot on that webpage, I am guessing its a flashback scene because Lee is wearing Captain&#039;s pips, but he also has a Battlestar Galactica badge on his shoulder.  I thought he wasn&#039;t assigned to the Galactica prior to the miniseries?  Is that the implication here or a clothing manfunction?  hehe...--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 19:26, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I read something that he might be demoted back to Captain. Not sure about it, but it makes sense. I guess they could keep him as Major or even Colonel, but there isn&#039;t really a job opening for a Commander at the moment. &lt;br /&gt;
:But looking at it more closely that might even be Major. Major and Captain look very similar, with Major having three chevron, the top one of which is directly on the diamond&#039;s edge --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:28, 31 October 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The original [[Jackson Spencer|CAG]] of Galactica that we see was a Major. Also, in the Miniseries, Apollo didn&#039;t wear a unit patch at all on his shoulder when he got to Galactica, pehaps since he was in the Reserves. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:21, 3 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::In &amp;quot;[[Torn]]&amp;quot;, the name plate on Lee&#039;s viper reads &amp;quot;Maj. Lee Adama&amp;quot;. So I don&#039;t think he will be demoted any time soon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:54, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve deleted this line &amp;quot;both William Adama and Saul Tigh served on the Valkyrie&amp;quot; this is not canon, also many rumors going around are that Adama was involved in a covert operations against the cylons so he might have simply gone to the Valkyrie to be issued orders or debriefed etc, point is, we don&#039;t know. --[[user:lordmutt|lordmutt]] 19:13, 10 November 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a two-minute video out there, that pretty much confirms that Adama and Tigh were sent to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; for a special mission. Something about using a stealth ship to make a reconnaissance flight into Cylon space. The ship was flown by Novacek who was then captured by the Cylons. I also like that this shoots down the silly theories that the Blackbird was the Colonial&#039;s first stealth ship. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:52, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Concur. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:55, 10 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait, wait, wait! In the episode, they showed a picture of the bridge crew of the Valkyrie that included Adama and Tigh. If they were simply assigned there for a single mission (and a covert one at that) they&#039;re not going to commemorate the occasion! Secondly, they wouldn&#039;t have assigned Tigh as well. The fewer people that knew about the mission, the better, plus there would be no reason to send another ship&#039;s XO. The Valkyrie is also described as Adama&#039;s last command before Galactica, which means that he was the commander of the ship, not an officer briefly assigned for a single mission. And why do you even have to ask if its a flashback? C&#039;mon, people, its pretty obvious that it was!--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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:Erm, note the date of this discussion. This was speculation before the episode aired. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Class / Type / Dimensions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now, for the time being, does &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; go down as a &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;-type Battlestar (until someone at the &amp;quot;Head Office&amp;quot; finally tells us details like this)? I &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; like how &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, and now &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; are all different styles and sizes, but yet are still classified as &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;. This shows a degree of realism, creativity, and dynamicism among our intrepid Powers That Be &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re not going to pull the weak, canned trick of reusing the same model over and over and over again, ad nauseum. Also, &#039;&#039;hopefully&#039;&#039;, it stomps on &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; musings amongst certain overzealous fans of such genres as Star Wars and Star Trek who have this bad habit of immediately speculating and squabbling over if a ship is a battleship, destroyer, frigate, etc. In this case, it would seem that, regardless of size and/or layout, a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar. End of line.&lt;br /&gt;
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On that note, it would appear that &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is infact smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, perhaps with reduced capabilities (weapons and embarked Vipers and Raptors quantities, etc.), less crew. It would also appear that she has less engines in her differently shaped array, which would make sense for a smaller, less massive starship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, and unrelated to &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; directly, that stealth recon craft was &#039;&#039;badass&#039;&#039;, wasn&#039;t it? -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 23:49, 17 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not so sure that the Valkyrie is a less capable ship than the Galactica.  From what Tigh said about Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;graceful retirement&#039; it seems that the Valkyrie was actually a pretty prestigious command.  I had always thought that commanding the Galactica was a great honor, but Tigh&#039;s words seem to indicate otherwise.  Ships tend to get smaller as the technology progresses because of the reduced manpower requirement.  Perhaps the smaller size of the Valkyrie is an indication of this.  Theres no real numbers for the dimensions of the Valkyrie or anything to scale it to, but I also got the sense that it was smaller than the Pegasus or Galactica.  --[[User:Antagonist|Antagonist]] 02:16, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I disagree with that.  A smaller ship is going to have less physical space to carry fighter craft and supplies.  If &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, then its gun batteries are smaller, which means they&#039;re firing lighter shells, which translates into less penetration, smaller warheads, less damage. A smaller ship has less volume to absorb damage with, meaning less staying power in a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t still be a prestigious command, though.  If it were a very new ship, even if it weren&#039;t the most powerful, it would still be a plum assignment.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s not always completely true. For example, the modern Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) class destroyer is about 500 feet long. It&#039;s replaced the 560 foot long Spruance and Kidd class destroyers and is also much more powerful than the old Long Beach (721 fl) and other old cruisers. It&#039;s almost as powerful as the other current surface warship, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, built on a Spruance hull. The only reason our modern carriers are so much larger than the old WWII bird farms, is that the planes are much larger now than they were back then. For instance, the lightweight F/A-18E Super Hornet is about 30,000lbs empty and 60 feet long. The old F6F Hellcat is 42 feet long and weighs under 10,000lbs. In conclusion, Valkryie, even smaller, could be much more powerful than the older Galactica. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:09, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But considering the timeframe, they aren&#039;t using radically different weapons and planes. Probably standard Mk VII Vipers or maybe MkVIs or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it&#039;s sort of like the escort carriers of WWII. Not usually meant to operate alone, but to give support to larger carriers, protect ships and support planetary operations. A support ship in Battlestar Groups that have a fullsized battlestar as main ship --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:24, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me of a point I forgot, the Mk II and Mk VII are of similar sizes, they can be launched from the same tubes and stored in the same parking spots on the hanger deck. I&#039;m thinking the Valkyrie is like the USS Wasp which was a miniture Yorktown, a small light carrier that can operate with the fleet carriers. The only difference is that the Valkryie would be more advanced than Galactica, instead of old and ineffective like the Wasp. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 09:38, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I find myself nodding in gleeful agreement to [[User:Talos|Talos]] and [[User:Serenity|Serenity&#039;s]] comments, but I must reply to [[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper&#039;s]] first &amp;amp;mdash; you&#039;re using the &amp;quot;bigger is better&amp;quot; mentality, and this is one of the two issues that burns at the heart of the fight amongst Star Wars fans on the topic of warships (and classification thereof, but I&#039;ll mention that later). Bigger &#039;&#039;is not&#039;&#039; better. Better is better. Different is better. Just because &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is smaller (hypothetically speaking for the sake of example) doesn&#039;t mean she carries smaller weapons. From the recollection scenes alone, we can see that she has weaponry different, and in different locations, than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;. The elder battlestar lumps her primary &amp;quot;turrets&amp;quot; dorsalside and ventralside, and has her &amp;quot;flak-guns&amp;quot; lining the midline and flight pods. &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, by contrast, had turrets on the pods themselves, akin to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t want to chase specifics, but focus on the point that differences are &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; they&#039;re human; they&#039;re to be expected; they&#039;re in realistic keeping.&lt;br /&gt;
::It could be said that, perhaps, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; was as Talos and Serenity say, a lighter, more purposeful version of a battlestar for an accompaniment or specialized role. Less mass would mean that she&#039;d require less engines in her array, and perhaps have greater velocities/accelerations. She&#039;d require less crew. While still operating the same craft as any other battlestar, she &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have less of them. Who knows? The point is, she&#039;s different, but &#039;&#039;still a battlestar&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
::I bring in two examples from history: the case of the HMS &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; (ca. 1940) and the battleships of the US Navy during WWII. In &#039;&#039;Hood&#039;s&#039;&#039; story, she was, when WWII rolled around, the largest, longest warship in the British Navy, and was 262m long at 48,000 tonnes full load. By contrast, the &#039;&#039;Queen Elizabeth&#039;&#039;-class battleships were 197m at 33,000 tonnes. Both ships carried the same 15-in gun. Then, we throw in another WWII-era battleship, the &#039;&#039;King George V&#039;&#039;-class, which was 227m at 42,000 tonnes &amp;amp;mdash; but sported 14-in guns because the Admiralty, at the time, felt that a more quantitive broadside (10 over 8 or 9) would be more effective than the larger 15-in guns. I&#039;m not going to get into a running argument over details, but bring this up to point out that all three were battleships (&#039;&#039;Hood&#039;&#039; was termed a &#039;&#039;battlecruiser&#039;&#039;, but the point stands), built by the &#039;&#039;same country&#039;&#039; in roughly a short period of time (within approximately 30 years), and all were used under similar circumstances, to varying success and failure. Similarly, the United States had their &amp;quot;holdover&amp;quot; dreadnaught-style battleships at the opening of WWII, but then churned out the &#039;&#039;New Mexico&#039;&#039;-class, the &#039;&#039;South Dakota&#039;&#039;-class, &#039;&#039;North Carolina&#039;&#039;-class, and &#039;&#039;Iowa&#039;&#039;-class. Each was indeed a battleship, but definitely different in terms of size, traits, and capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, I may be getting a bit long-winded for such a trivial subject, but I can&#039;t express enough how &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; this great series is from Star Trek and Star Wars. Until proven otherwise, there aren&#039;t any carriers, battleships, cruisers, frigates, destroyers, corvettes, torpedo boats, etc. &amp;amp;mdash; there are &#039;&#039;battlestars&#039;&#039;, and a battlestar is a battlestar is a battlestar, albeit in different shapes, forms, and sizes. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:26, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m thinking that it&#039;s just a smaller battlestar, fulfilling a similar role as the Mercuries and such on smaller displacement. Many realword navies are always attempting to do this. For example, before the Burke was finalized, various lightweight versions, sacrificing engines or Aegis, or other equipment, were designed. All of them tried to mimize displacement.The Treaty-era ships from the 1920-30&#039;s aren&#039;t the best examples to use here because they had an artificial limit imposed on them by the Washington and London Naval Treaties. Frequently, improved technology requires lesser manpower. The reason ships keep getting bigger historically is that they keep adding new technology, for instance, the cause of the massive destroyer size increase after WWII is mostly due to the inclusion of Weapon Alfa, guided missiles, and a huge increase in carried electronics. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 12:27, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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CVL-48 Saipan class - 2 ships&lt;br /&gt;
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83,350 tons full, 68,000 tons standard&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-59 Forrestal class - 4 ships&lt;br /&gt;
56,300 tons&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-63 Kitty Hawk class - 3 ships&lt;br /&gt;
60,000 tons, 82,200 tons full load&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-65 Enterprise class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
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CV-67 John F. Kennedy class - 1 ship&lt;br /&gt;
60728 tons light, 82655 tons full&lt;br /&gt;
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CVN-68 Nimitz class - 9 ships&lt;br /&gt;
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If we equate Galactica, an older ship, to the USS United States and the Valkyrie to Forrestal Class and Pegasus to a Nimitz class, then Galactica would be clearly larger than the Valkyrie and Pegasus would clearly be much larger than both.  In the US Navy today, all these carriers have the exact same function, but vary in size by design and time.  However, they are all aircraft carriers.  --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 17:29, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[[User:Hawke|Hawke]], I don&#039;t understand where you&#039;re coming from.  I never said &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; wasn&#039;t a battlestar.  I said that if it&#039;s smaller than &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, then it cannot be as capable.  It cannot carry the same amount of fighters because its flight pods are smaller.  Its guns cannot be as large, and we know thanks to &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; that guns like the ones &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; carries are still effective weapons.  It will not be able to absorb as much damage due to its smaller size.  I&#039;m honestly not sure what most of your post has to do with any of that.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think its also worth remembering that Galactica is 60 years old, and one of the first 12 Battlestars. Therefore Valkyrie must be a newer ship, which is suggested by some of its more Pegasusish design nods. Therefore yes it can quite easily be more powerful than Galactica, simply by having more modern technology. Yes Galactica will of been refitted and such and such, but refitting can only get you so far. If Galactica was able to hold its own next to newer ships it wouldn&#039;t of been about to be decommissioned when the series started. The fact is we don&#039;t know when Pegasus and Valkeryie were built, except that both most of been built post-Galactica&#039;s. That&#039;s probably also why Galactica is looked upon so harshly by Tigh. Galactica may of been in the fleet as an old relic. An old rust bucket that should of been decommissioned years ago. --[[User:CTerry|CTerry]] 18:05, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My thought are that we could gage the scale of the Valkyrie to the Galactica and Pegasus by looking at the flightpods. The width of the &amp;quot;mouth&amp;quot; should be the same as they all support and operate the vehicles - Vipers, Raptors and shuttles. Oh and the Shadow Star, can&#039;t forget that new one. The &amp;quot;banner&amp;quot; on the deck of each flightpod could be the same dimensions for landing purposes. As for the guns, I saw the one in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; of the Valkyrie, one behind it on the &amp;quot;body&amp;quot; and three on the flightpod like that of the Pegasus. Most seemed to have only one cannon, while the that&#039;s in the &amp;quot;eye&amp;quot; appeared, in the firing sequence, to have two cannon. Cannon that fired a powered missle. The Galactica and Pegasus appeared, to me, to have the same type of main gun. The placement was not the same though. I&#039;v been also thinking of the Galactica as being like a World War 2 carrier, since it had &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot; but uprated for modern operation. The Pegasus was a product of more modern times and doesn&#039;t appear to have any &amp;quot;AA guns&amp;quot;. Due to the guns on the Valkyrie, I&#039;d guess that it was perhaps the most modern design. Those main guns could be a newer design then those on Pegasus, unless they are a new &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot;. In the long run, I have to agree that it appears to be smaller and serve a slightly different purpose in the BSG, maybe a battlescruiser type to the battleship type that Galactica and Pegasus play. I can&#039;t but also say that perhaps, these ships could be treated as ships-of-the-line as in the age of sail. Interesting design, pity we&#039;ll never get to see more of it, unless Zoic is kind and releases some orthos of it. Or maybe some book comes out with orthos of all the Colonial ships and craft.&lt;br /&gt;
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::1 x heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the head&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x Heavy gun turret in an alcove on either side of the main body, above the flight pods.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x more alcoves on either side of the main body that may or may not contain heavy gun turrets; There weren&#039;t any shots close enough for me to be certain.&lt;br /&gt;
::1 x heavy gun turret on either side of the dorsal crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x possible heavy gun turrets aft of the dorsal crest.  The image was from too far awawy to be sure, but they look quite similar to the ones astride the crest.&lt;br /&gt;
::2 x heavy gun turrets on the dorsal surface of the flight-pods, one foreward and one aft.&lt;br /&gt;
::3 x light gun turrets in alcoves on the side of each flight-pod.  There were only three in-frame in the picture I saw them in, but it also only covered the foreward part of the flight pod, so there could be more.&lt;br /&gt;
:Having no images of the ship&#039;s underside, there&#039;s no way to tell what armament she has there.&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as I could tell, all the heavy gun turrets had two barrels.  The lighter gun turrets are harder to make out, but they appear to be twin-barreled emplacements as well.  They are definately smaller than the heavy turrets, though.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the armaments of &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, the heavy turrets on both are indeed extremely similar in appearance.  &#039;&#039;Both&#039;&#039; possess extensive flak suites of lighter, rapid-fire guns. Although I&#039;ve been unable to visually identify any of the emplacements on &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;, I&#039;ve certainly seen them firing.&lt;br /&gt;
:The way I see it, &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is a much smaller design, fitted with commensurately smaller weaponry, meant to support the heavier ships in a BSG like the &#039;&#039;Mercury&#039;&#039;-class.  More of a cruiser to their battleship, than a battlecruiser.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 08:26, 19 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda thought Valkyrie was a smaller battlestar, much like the Independence class light carriers of World War II or the support carriers (CVS) that the WW II era Essex class ships became.  Essentially these ships were designed to undertake missions that didn&#039;t warrant the use of a big carrier. The CVL Independence, for example, was one of the first carriers deployed for night operations. Essex and her sisters were used for antisubmarine and amphibious operations. If Valkyrie were a ship of this type it would make more sense for her to be assigned a black op, since arguably she would be a somewhat less threatening presence than a full sized battlestar, and she would also be more expendable if something went wrong. I propose the term &amp;quot;Light Battlestar&amp;quot; to describe this ship. :)  [[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 20:44, 20 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is an intermediate design somewhere between &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;.  As far as size goes, I think its comparable in dimensions to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, and therefore slightly smaller than &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039;. If you use the width and length of the flight pods as a scale, then &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is very similar to the other battlestars we&#039;ve seen.  The perception of small size I think is due to the narrower engine pods and propulsion section in the rear.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has the addtional four engines from a refit that make her rear end wider, and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; had more engines to begin with.  The width of the bow and the overall length of the ship is about the same for all three.  [[User:Maserati1945|Maserati1945]] 02:41, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could just be Pegasus and Galactica where built for long-term combat operations and journeys where as the Valkyrie might not be designed for extended journeys, which is of course much more suitable to a covert operation. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:00, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guns on the Valkyrie seem, to me, to be rail guns similar to those onboard the Galactica and Pegasus. These latter two have a larger &amp;quot;caliber&amp;quot; of cannon, but I think this could explain the firing of the missle and other types of ordance. Galactica and Pegasus can fire differing loads similtaniously, as opposed to Valkyrie. Now here&#039;s a question - I&#039;ve noticed in some captures, what looks like the phaser emitters on the Enterprise-A, covering a number of areas of the Valkyrie. Could they be the AA guns?[[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 18:00, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re referring to those hemisphereical blisters on the flight-pod connector spars, and elsewhere?  If so, I think we haven&#039;t got enough information.  I can&#039;t make out anything that might be gunbarrels on any of them, I haven&#039;t got any detailed enough shots of them.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just did a quick measurement comparison to the Galactica and the Valkyrie. I compared the flightpod openings for width and found that the Vlakyrie would be roughly half as long as the Galactica IF the width is the same for all Battlestars, ie. for receiving the same types of craft (eg. Shuttles, Raptors and Vipers). [[User:Cat-Scratched-Victim|Cat-Scratched-Victim]] 22:07, 25 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just comparing the flight pods myself.  I haven&#039;t had time to do anything particularly in-depth, but I looked at the landing strips relative to the width of the pods&#039; foreward and aft openings.  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Pegasus&#039;&#039; both look like they&#039;ve got another landing-strip&#039;s width to either side of the actual strip, and from what I recall, the strips on both ships are about the same size compared to Vipers.  Assuming the &#039;&#039;strip&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039; is the same size, then an eyeball estimate looks to me like there&#039;s about half a strip&#039;s width to either side of the landing strip on &#039;&#039;Valkyrie&#039;&#039;, which would make it two thirds the width of the pods on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.--[[User:Grin Reaper|Grin Reaper]] 07:08, 28 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok my theory is that Valkyrie&#039;s main mission is patrol and if it finds something it sends a signal to a bigger ship and holds the threat off until a more powerful ship comes. Snorkel378&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, maybe I&#039;m missin&#039; something here, but where did you all get the idea that Valkyrie was smaller? We&#039;ve got no real basis for comparison between the ships except the flight pods and the missile. The Missile looked about the same size compared to the Valkyrie as the missiles that Pegasus and Galactica have fired looked compared to them. And the views we have of the flight pods are so vague that there&#039;s nothing we can really assume based on them. I think that Valkyrie is roughly the same size as Pegasus or Galactica, and is most likely a newer model than Galactica, but a slightly older model than Pegasus, as it appears to have similar design features to both ships (it has the same engine setup and CIC as Pegasus, but the bow and flight pod design looks closer to Galactica-type ships).--[[User:Sci-fi Junkee|Sci-fi Junkee]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s mainly the size of the gun turrets compared to the rest of the ship. If not smaller, it would have very large turrets --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:45, 25 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Can we maybe get some pictures, cause that would help clear this whole mess up for me.--Sci-fi Junkee&lt;br /&gt;
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==Related Images==&lt;br /&gt;
I removed the image  File:Valkyrie, Scorpion Shipyards.Jpg as when I look at the Valkyrie in the episode &#039;Heros&#039; it is clear that the pics is not of a Va;kyrie typ battlestar, but is in fact a Galactica type (likely uprated) that is seen in dock at Scorpian Shipyards in &#039;Razor&#039; [[User:Einar|Einar]] 1829 (PST), 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number / Designation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Am I seeing this right? From the capture, it looks like &#039;&#039;&#039;BSG 41&#039;&#039;&#039; on the seal. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 11:47, 18 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In case you still don&#039;t know, as nobody replied, yes its 41. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:59, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Miniseries appearance? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Miniseries Mystery Ship.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery ship? ([[Miniseries]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I was watching the miniseries the other day and early in I could swear that the Valkyrie or a battlestar of the same make shows up. It&#039;s the same shot through the Caprica City doctor&#039;s window that shows the Firefly and Olympic Carrier-type ship. Is it just me or does anyone else see it? [[User:Motherfraker|Motherfraker]] 16:23, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just found a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aUZSKHhRXs clip on youtube] showing Serenity fly past and you can clearly see the mystery ship. Its certainly very large and looks like it may have 6 engines but I dont think its a battlestar. The middle section isnt big enough and the nose section is too pointy. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:01, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve noticed this ship before, and always presumed it was a [[Memoryalpha:Hirogen Warship]](not in BSG canon, obviously) from Star Trek. There are several instances of CG starship models from Star Trek appearing in Firefly as background ships, and as we know Serenity herself is seen in this scene, so it&#039;s possible that this vessel was put in as an &amp;quot;extra&amp;quot; to fill up space on the screen. I don&#039;t see any resemblance to the Valkyrie, but I could believe that this was a Colonial military craft of some sort.&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a picture of the Hirogen ship for reference: www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/hirogen-venatic-cgi.jpg --[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 18:57, 22 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MysteryShip.jpg|thumb|left|Mystery Ship ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not the Valkyrie, I think it&#039;s just a background ship because it appeared again at the end of [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] during the fleet&#039;s emergency jump as seen in the screenshot provided here. -- [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:54, 22 November 2006 (CST) &lt;br /&gt;
:Its a pretty cool looking ship though. It looks quote powerful, definitly fast with 5 engines. We have a page about most of the ships on the wiki, could we garner enough information about this to make a page. Its quite possible it has made appearances in other episodes too and could even have an official name as there are many ships in the &amp;quot;mentioned only&amp;quot; category. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:23, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a rough design for a page [[Five-engined vessel|here]]. What do people think? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:53, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks good to me. I was going to point out the incorrect caption but it looks like you caught it.--[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 09:44, 23 November 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridge. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I meant to say CIC. Must stop watching Star Trek...--[[User:Helo87|Helo87]]&lt;br /&gt;
:To be fair, when taking modern day nomenclature into account, its function is closer to a bridge. That&#039;s where a ship is steered from. The CIC is where all sensor information is collected and evaluated. In BSG they throw that together, but I kinda like that they use a different term for a change. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 00:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surrviving Battlestars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, how do you know ALL the other battlestars were destroyed?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 21:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Well, for one, &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; made it clear that the Cylon&#039;s attack was an overwhelming success. Further, RDM&#039;s made some comments in the past to that effect. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did RDM specifically say that there are definately NO other surrviving battlestars?  Is it absolutely certain?  I&#039;m one of those people who still believes theres a possibility that another one may yet be found.[[User:Grandmaester314|Grandmaester314]] 13:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes on my edit==&lt;br /&gt;
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1) the size of the launch tubes if valk is 1200m is somthing I haddent considered before. I hope that I have provided a good posible explination and have writen it in such a way so that it didn&#039;t seem 1 sided. If you plan to rewrite it please do so in a nutral way. The desiners made some mistakes with the valk and these launch tubes were one of them. They were probably just slaped on there to make it look diffrent and the desinger desided that having 3 looked the coolest. &lt;br /&gt;
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2) The turret argument is starting to anoy me. There is no reason that galactica style turrets could be used on the Valk, regardless of it&#039;s size. They could easly have been scaled to match the ships size. It is clear from hero that Valks turrets work in a diffrent way thus a diffrent desinge. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) could someone please point out these &amp;quot;meny desinge features that surgest a smaller scale&amp;quot;. In my view the evidence sugests a larger ship the visual evidence in razor right down to dialog about it Being a better comand have drawn me to this conclution. &lt;br /&gt;
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4) Altogh I realize that there are only 4 engnies I do wish there 6 and have heard meany people clame that is the case, even with this evidence. I do not think that the posibleity of extra engnies that can&#039;t be seen should be ruled out. There could be some behined the flaps.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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| start = May 31st, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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| items =  {{archive-item|02|Friends...}} {{archive-item|02|Did you know...}} {{archive-item|02|Region 4 Season 2 DVD new Slimline Set}} {{archive-item|02|1900x1200 Res}} {{archive-item|02|Proposal to Open Wiki to Unregistered Users}} {{archive-item|02|If there was...}} {{archive-item|02|Style Sheet Completed}} {{archive-item|02|Your Screen Resolution}} {{archive-item|02|Quotes}} {{archive-item|02|Link to chainki.org Battlestar Galactica pages}} {{archive-item|02|Season 3 Teaser}} {{archive-item|02|IE v. Firefox}} {{archive-item|02|Airdates}} {{archive-item|02|CSS with Images|end=Y}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Battlestar Wiki &amp;quot;referenced&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
A &amp;quot;little bird&amp;quot; tipped me of to a [http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=doomsday_not_as_much_fun_as_you_d_think&amp;amp;more=1&amp;amp;c=1&amp;amp;tb=1&amp;amp;pb=1 Scientific American blog entry] that referenced Battlestar Wiki. It&#039;s kind of dangerous doing a direct link to wiki-content like that, but it&#039;s neat that we&#039;re being linked to. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:57, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For those curious, [[User:Gmusser]] is the author of the blog entry. (This can be deduced from the link and the author&#039;s name.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:28, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Question: Should we be annoyed that someone used BattlestarWiki material in their magazine like that, or does it not matter because they&#039;re things he contributed to, or what?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:35, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It doesn&#039;t strike me as a bad thing. Of course, I didn&#039;t check to see if the very similar wording was originally contributed by him; I&#039;d imagine it was, so it&#039;d be all positive. To work in a nitpick, so far as I can tell, it&#039;s not in the magazine, just online in their blog. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:41, 8 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External images not working amnymore==&lt;br /&gt;
See my user page. All external images are no just showing as links --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:54, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That sounds like it&#039;s probably a Mediawiki setting that can be toggled. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:02, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, it happened to me, as well; I tend to assume the same thing about the cause. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:13, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ive also noticed some odd things like the &amp;lt;nowki&amp;gt; tags and stuff arnt working properly, take a look at the box on the edit page where you can click the special characters and also the summaries on the recent edits. Has the wiki software been updated in the last few days to maybe have caused these little glitches? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:40, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I attempted to invoke {{tl|tl}} once or twice in edit summaries if that&#039;s what you mean, but I was forgetting that templates are not supposed to work in edit summaries. (It would do unfortunate things to upload summaries, for one thing.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:29, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No this is something thats happened very recently. Edit this page and look at the bottom of the page. The code to add to your edits now is wrapped with &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; when it shoudl&#039;nt parse that only the actual code in between. Its hard to explain but i think its related to the images not showing up Something has changed in the last week to make this all happen. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:56, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I&#039;ll look into this... it&#039;s probably a setting issue since I upgraded the Wiki software to MediaWiki 1.7.1. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:55, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Something else ive noticed. When you search for an article that has no page yet. Eg http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Wooyay it automaticly takes you to the edit page http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Wooyay&amp;amp;action=edit --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:30, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Actually, that was a change I made... I was trying to see something. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:31, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I should have mentioned this but I noticed that if I hit ENTER key intead of clicking SEARCH, it gives the same behavior that Mercifull reports. (Maybe I shouldn&#039;t do that??).--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:05, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== QotD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The quote is in need of an update. Would anybody be willing to do the honors? --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 16:33, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Often I have to do a Crtl-F5 in IE on one of my computers to get it to refresh the QotD. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:15, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Depends on where you live also. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:18, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The quote of the day today (October 7, 2006) is incorrect. It should be as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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Tyrol: You know, we need to figure out whose side we&#039;re on.&lt;br /&gt;
Tigh: Which side are we on. We&#039;re on the side of the demons, Chief. We&#039;re evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t know that.&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[User:123home123|123home123]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== First person... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To get http://media.battlestarwiki.org/ active on their computer gets a [[Wikipedia:Cookie|cookie]]. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:36, 14 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I win. Got it working 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m sorry, but I stole your cookie. Now I need some milk... :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:33, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Season 3 Teaser  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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During the SG-1 200th episode. Did someone capture this?! There was some shots that were not in the ... well original one. :-D --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:23, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will DVR the 1:00AM repeat. Thanks for the heads ups. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:30, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::it&#039;s a SciFi and Monk night. :-) (almost got the subdomains working with joe cept I have to do some reading so rewriting rules) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is the special. Not the episode it self, but I would get the show also. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For some unexplicable reason, I didn&#039;t check the guide, like I always do on friday, when I got home or I would have been watching it (the special).  I always DVR the &#039;Gates. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Did a quick writeup for the one on SG1-200 [[User:Gougef/Season 3 Teaser#Teaser From SG1-200 | here]].--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I Tivo&#039;ed it on the first wave, some shots of Gatea, more Tigh (He&#039;s the &amp;quot;narrator&amp;quot;) a great shot of Boomer (After entering the prison), Six. It was great, I haven&#039;t watched it again since I recorded it, but I will in a while (obviousley). --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 21:48, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this it? http://www.lucylawless.info/battlestar-galactica/episodetrailers.html --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 19:12, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is the Eureka teaser, which some of shots are in the this new one. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:34, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They air different trailers for different shows? --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 12:12, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I may have missed it, but I don&#039;t think they have aired the same exact teaser twice? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:17, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Media&amp;quot; Uploading ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now active. You can head over the the [http://media.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/ Media Wiki], sign up (with your same name), and start uploading. You won&#039;t be able to link the images to any articles pages just yet, but you can tag the image and upload them correctly for now. :) Enjoy! :) (Anyone have any ideas for a Main Page design?) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:21, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I was thinking of a smaller version of the Main Page design we have now. That would be fine by me. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:02, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Technical ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Typo under Sister Projects. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would have fixed it but I (being DUH!) couldn&#039;t figure out how to get to the page. When I click on the icon button beside &amp;quot;Sister&amp;quot; it stays on the home page. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:25, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::doh. my fault. I&#039;ll change it in the [[BW:MAIN]] project so it won&#039;t happen again :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fix is up on main page. Battlestar Wiki: 1 Confusing Navigation: 0. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:10, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Search Box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Merc and others have been suggestion to me that we move the search box after the &amp;quot;navigation&amp;quot; box. Just wanted to get some option before I made such a move. Let me know. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:18, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d lean towards &amp;quot;movin&#039; on up&amp;quot;. It&#039;s on my screen at 1280x1024, but I can imagine it&#039;d easily fall off smaller resolutions, and it&#039;s pretty useful for getting around (especially once you&#039;re used to shortcuts, etc.) I&#039;m really enjoying the bsgMonoBook, by the way! I&#039;m less enthused about the color scheme than I am the fact that we&#039;ve got a choice now. If you don&#039;t like it, you can always run your own skin (now). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:22, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Support as per discussion on gtalk. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:03, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Good idea. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:00, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yeah, move it up, please. Just had the same idea. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 16:26, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::k. It will likly happen later tonight when go gets to do a nother update of the files. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:27, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:42, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles: Font style in edit box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m used to the fixed-width typeface in the editing box. Is this a new characteristic of the three skin options? I like the CSS for the most part, but it would be better to see text with a fixed width option more characteristic of wikis. Also, the Preview header text &amp;quot;This is only a preview; changes have not yet been saved!&amp;quot; shown in a article edit mode with the default BSG skin is so dark in my Firefox browser as to be unreadable.  --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:37, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Characterostic - Yes. I can change to what font. I am starting to hate the font in here myself because I can&#039;t see the wiki code very well. So give me a font and I will change it. Preview text - Sending to Joe for an upload. Minor mistake on my part. Anything else? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:47, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Will be back to the font that it was before on next update. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:34, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:43, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Airdates==&lt;br /&gt;
Holy cow! Being informative is good, but the Airdates section is continuing to grow unchecked. Any suggestions as to how we could slim down the look on the mainpage, but still have it be easy to access for people to find their respective airdates? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:00, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I know this might sound biased, but one idea is to just list the US, Canada and UK airdates on the main page, then list all the other country airdates on a subpage in a fashion similar to what we do with the Main Page news. Since most of our audience is going to be from those countries anyway, we may as well focus on them.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:52, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too was wary of bias. However, realistically we can&#039;t fit everybody&#039;s airdates on the main page. I&#039;d like to have that info here, but it&#039;s not our primary mission (we&#039;re not tvguide.com). I concur that we should select a cutoff for main page airdates and then store the rest on a separate page. Maybe a one-link depth (clicking the &amp;quot;airdates&amp;quot; icon would take you to the &amp;quot;All airdates&amp;quot; article, of which the &amp;quot;US/UK/CAN&amp;quot; is just one of the child templates. This would require a change to the main page (pointing to the new US/UK/CAN template), the creation of the US/UK/CAN template, and a massive redesign of Mainpage/airdates to accomodate the new &amp;quot;global airdate&amp;quot; scheme (as well as including a display/edit of the US/UK/CAN template). That&#039;d be my best guess. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:03, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::{{support}} Before it was a problem having no airdates. Now we have a ton. [[BW:TV]]? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:41, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It might be late for my suggestions, but I was waiting for an official information. Here:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;1-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;It&#039;s now official, Space Channel will be following the SciFi broadcasts. But it will be airing the day after, the saturday. So the Canadian airdate is almost the same as the US, it&#039;ll be kind of redundant, right? So my suggestion is to merge US and CAN, and have a side note that explain that CAN is the day after, the saturday.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or 2-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;My second suggestion is to have, on the main page, a quick list of the &#039;&#039;&#039;next new&#039;&#039;&#039; episode for each contry. Something like:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::::&#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Fri. October 6th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;CAN&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Sat. October 7th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; - October...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;AUS&#039;&#039;&#039; » ...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;etc.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We can also use the flag of the country! The idea of the list came because I&#039;m not sure about the airdates of the reruns and the marathons needs to be on the main page and I think everyone can wish to come here just to have a quick look to know when the next episode is. But, with that, we create a second page with a section for each country for all the reruns airdates, the last week episode, the next two or tree weeks episodes... In other words, a TvGuide page. Some people might be interested in that kind of information, and since it won&#039;t be on the main page, I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a problem to have a TvGuide.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;We keep it that way, it&#039;s good enough :) --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 13:13, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well... we already have the next and previous episode up at the top, but the airdates give the time and channel. {{flag|US}} is not working :( But to understand you correcty....&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Main page - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Other airdates - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::(New Page) TV Reruns - Times of next reruns for the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I would still suggest we keep the same lanauges and not do this witht he german dates as they have their own wiki. But US, UK, CAN, and AU I see no problem with. I would have to get some more flags imported :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Why the US flag doesn&#039;t work?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I agree to keep &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; airdates on the &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; main page (and german date with german wiki...). The idea with the list on the main page, is to have at most 2 lines per country (well maybe 3). And just have the next new episode &#039;&#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039;&#039;. Ex: The next new on SciFi is on October 6th. &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The new page is for all the others airdates. Like Space Channel will, if I remember well, air once again TOS. So we need a kind of TvGuide. Re-air TOS or all the reruns or marathons, is kind of the same thing: an encore presentation. So the new page is for that, all the dates including the previous episode&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;So, MP is short and quick with every country watching in english (with the flags or not).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;And New Page is long and detailed for every country (not for the one who has their wiki, like german).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I hope this is clear. --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 16:00, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::US flag is having SVG problems. Still trying to figure that one out. I think this is a soild idea. Would clean up the &amp;quot;text&amp;quot; a bit. I&#039;ll post any example here on the possiable look. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:06, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Technical research and development wiki&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Under &amp;quot;sister projects&amp;quot;: I&#039;m a little behind, sorry I&#039;m out of the loop; what is that/how does it work?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:29, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: It&#039;s merely the Hangar Bay, which is currently down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:30, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was about to post that :) Currently offiline. Getting to it in a little bit. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Images - Not many... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While I am on the subject (http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/0000esw7) has tons of images that can be uploaded with the {{tl|promo}} tag over at the media wiki. Should we just import them all and label them for use, or just upload when needed? I can say for sure we can upload some from &amp;quot;Scar&amp;quot; because the [[Scar]] guide is void of pictures. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2,000,000 Page Views!? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn&#039;t we just pass the &#039;&#039;1,000,000&#039;&#039; page views milestone earlier this summer? Have we had a million page views this summer alone?!&lt;br /&gt;
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I better buy several more [[Mop Boy|mops]]. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Congrats to us! Yay! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The [[Mop Boy|one]] i&#039;m using atm is getting very worn but Joe refuses to pay for a new one :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks for the [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support/Proposals|idea]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:50, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Didn&#039;t you get the memo? :-P -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:18, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is it done?!? This is the only Wiki(that i&#039;v seen) with compleetly diferent colors and styell can some one tell me how it is don(you can put it on my talk page)?[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 01:50, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This wiki still has a theme in the usual wiki colours but a new desiend was created by some members of this wiki to give it a unique look and feel. The [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki] site has some great tips on how to do all this. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:18, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==3 Million Page Views==&lt;br /&gt;
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Past 3 million sometime today. Another million right in around a month :). --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 12:44, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;ll check the server statistics as well... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:17, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Well, it&#039;s pretty damn cool. What&#039;s really cool is that the referrers are coming more and more from outside the USA. Most of them are, actually, from Googke UK, Google Germany, and Google Canada. There are even hits from Myspace and non-English language forums... interesting. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:42, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Message from [[User:Day|Day]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He says he misses us and he&#039;s working full time. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Woo and Yay for Day :D http://www.woo-yay.net/images/12-04-05_cat-bite-woo.gif --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:21, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Glad that he&#039;s working, and we&#039;ll continue to save a spot for him on the couch in the break room. Though the time has come for us to consider stadium seating options... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:24, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested addition to Main Page: Link to the episode guides ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would be nice to have a link to the episode guide on the Main Page, in addition to the links to the most recent episode and the next episode. It takes several clicks to get to the Season 3 episode list or the list for any other season.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:123home123|123home123]] 2:53, 14 October 2006 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Takes me two steps. [[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Portal]] → Episode Guide. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:13, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You might not know that you have to go to the portal to get to the episode guides. I agree with 123home123, Im sure that the importance of an episode guite warrents a clreal link on the front page --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:10, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I believe the current system is more than sufficient; takes two clicks -- three if you want to get to a specific episode. The only issue I presently have is that the sub-portals (which has two icons, one of which is to the Episode Guide) should be placed as the first box on the portal page for RDM, TOS, and 1980. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:49, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIG NEWS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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a new seres has come to light OSC (Origenal Seres Continuashon). Dispit its (curantly) canseld state i beleve that it is worth doing as it was in producshon (see http://www.cylon.org/bsg/bsg-desanto-01.html).[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 04:02, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Battlestar Wiki &amp;quot;referenced&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
A &amp;quot;little bird&amp;quot; tipped me of to a [http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=doomsday_not_as_much_fun_as_you_d_think&amp;amp;more=1&amp;amp;c=1&amp;amp;tb=1&amp;amp;pb=1 Scientific American blog entry] that referenced Battlestar Wiki. It&#039;s kind of dangerous doing a direct link to wiki-content like that, but it&#039;s neat that we&#039;re being linked to. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:57, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For those curious, [[User:Gmusser]] is the author of the blog entry. (This can be deduced from the link and the author&#039;s name.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:28, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Question: Should we be annoyed that someone used BattlestarWiki material in their magazine like that, or does it not matter because they&#039;re things he contributed to, or what?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:35, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It doesn&#039;t strike me as a bad thing. Of course, I didn&#039;t check to see if the very similar wording was originally contributed by him; I&#039;d imagine it was, so it&#039;d be all positive. To work in a nitpick, so far as I can tell, it&#039;s not in the magazine, just online in their blog. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:41, 8 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External images not working amnymore==&lt;br /&gt;
See my user page. All external images are no just showing as links --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:54, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That sounds like it&#039;s probably a Mediawiki setting that can be toggled. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:02, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, it happened to me, as well; I tend to assume the same thing about the cause. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:13, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ive also noticed some odd things like the &amp;lt;nowki&amp;gt; tags and stuff arnt working properly, take a look at the box on the edit page where you can click the special characters and also the summaries on the recent edits. Has the wiki software been updated in the last few days to maybe have caused these little glitches? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:40, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I attempted to invoke {{tl|tl}} once or twice in edit summaries if that&#039;s what you mean, but I was forgetting that templates are not supposed to work in edit summaries. (It would do unfortunate things to upload summaries, for one thing.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:29, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No this is something thats happened very recently. Edit this page and look at the bottom of the page. The code to add to your edits now is wrapped with &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; when it shoudl&#039;nt parse that only the actual code in between. Its hard to explain but i think its related to the images not showing up Something has changed in the last week to make this all happen. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:56, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I&#039;ll look into this... it&#039;s probably a setting issue since I upgraded the Wiki software to MediaWiki 1.7.1. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:55, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Something else ive noticed. When you search for an article that has no page yet. Eg http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Wooyay it automaticly takes you to the edit page http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Wooyay&amp;amp;action=edit --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:30, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Actually, that was a change I made... I was trying to see something. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:31, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I should have mentioned this but I noticed that if I hit ENTER key intead of clicking SEARCH, it gives the same behavior that Mercifull reports. (Maybe I shouldn&#039;t do that??).--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:05, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== QotD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The quote is in need of an update. Would anybody be willing to do the honors? --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 16:33, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Often I have to do a Crtl-F5 in IE on one of my computers to get it to refresh the QotD. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:15, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Depends on where you live also. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:18, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The quote of the day today (October 7, 2006) is incorrect. It should be as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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Tyrol: You know, we need to figure out whose side we&#039;re on.&lt;br /&gt;
Tigh: Which side are we on. We&#039;re on the side of the demons, Chief. We&#039;re evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t know that.&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[User:123home123|123home123]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== First person... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To get http://media.battlestarwiki.org/ active on their computer gets a [[Wikipedia:Cookie|cookie]]. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:36, 14 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I win. Got it working 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m sorry, but I stole your cookie. Now I need some milk... :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:33, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Season 3 Teaser  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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During the SG-1 200th episode. Did someone capture this?! There was some shots that were not in the ... well original one. :-D --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:23, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will DVR the 1:00AM repeat. Thanks for the heads ups. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:30, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::it&#039;s a SciFi and Monk night. :-) (almost got the subdomains working with joe cept I have to do some reading so rewriting rules) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is the special. Not the episode it self, but I would get the show also. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For some unexplicable reason, I didn&#039;t check the guide, like I always do on friday, when I got home or I would have been watching it (the special).  I always DVR the &#039;Gates. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Did a quick writeup for the one on SG1-200 [[User:Gougef/Season 3 Teaser#Teaser From SG1-200 | here]].--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I Tivo&#039;ed it on the first wave, some shots of Gatea, more Tigh (He&#039;s the &amp;quot;narrator&amp;quot;) a great shot of Boomer (After entering the prison), Six. It was great, I haven&#039;t watched it again since I recorded it, but I will in a while (obviousley). --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 21:48, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this it? http://www.lucylawless.info/battlestar-galactica/episodetrailers.html --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 19:12, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is the Eureka teaser, which some of shots are in the this new one. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:34, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They air different trailers for different shows? --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 12:12, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I may have missed it, but I don&#039;t think they have aired the same exact teaser twice? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:17, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Media&amp;quot; Uploading ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now active. You can head over the the [http://media.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/ Media Wiki], sign up (with your same name), and start uploading. You won&#039;t be able to link the images to any articles pages just yet, but you can tag the image and upload them correctly for now. :) Enjoy! :) (Anyone have any ideas for a Main Page design?) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:21, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I was thinking of a smaller version of the Main Page design we have now. That would be fine by me. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:02, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Technical ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Typo under Sister Projects. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would have fixed it but I (being DUH!) couldn&#039;t figure out how to get to the page. When I click on the icon button beside &amp;quot;Sister&amp;quot; it stays on the home page. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:25, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::doh. my fault. I&#039;ll change it in the [[BW:MAIN]] project so it won&#039;t happen again :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fix is up on main page. Battlestar Wiki: 1 Confusing Navigation: 0. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:10, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Search Box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Merc and others have been suggestion to me that we move the search box after the &amp;quot;navigation&amp;quot; box. Just wanted to get some option before I made such a move. Let me know. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:18, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d lean towards &amp;quot;movin&#039; on up&amp;quot;. It&#039;s on my screen at 1280x1024, but I can imagine it&#039;d easily fall off smaller resolutions, and it&#039;s pretty useful for getting around (especially once you&#039;re used to shortcuts, etc.) I&#039;m really enjoying the bsgMonoBook, by the way! I&#039;m less enthused about the color scheme than I am the fact that we&#039;ve got a choice now. If you don&#039;t like it, you can always run your own skin (now). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:22, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Support as per discussion on gtalk. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:03, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Good idea. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:00, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yeah, move it up, please. Just had the same idea. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 16:26, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::k. It will likly happen later tonight when go gets to do a nother update of the files. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:27, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:42, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles: Font style in edit box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m used to the fixed-width typeface in the editing box. Is this a new characteristic of the three skin options? I like the CSS for the most part, but it would be better to see text with a fixed width option more characteristic of wikis. Also, the Preview header text &amp;quot;This is only a preview; changes have not yet been saved!&amp;quot; shown in a article edit mode with the default BSG skin is so dark in my Firefox browser as to be unreadable.  --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:37, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Characterostic - Yes. I can change to what font. I am starting to hate the font in here myself because I can&#039;t see the wiki code very well. So give me a font and I will change it. Preview text - Sending to Joe for an upload. Minor mistake on my part. Anything else? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:47, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Will be back to the font that it was before on next update. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:34, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:43, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Airdates==&lt;br /&gt;
Holy cow! Being informative is good, but the Airdates section is continuing to grow unchecked. Any suggestions as to how we could slim down the look on the mainpage, but still have it be easy to access for people to find their respective airdates? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:00, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I know this might sound biased, but one idea is to just list the US, Canada and UK airdates on the main page, then list all the other country airdates on a subpage in a fashion similar to what we do with the Main Page news. Since most of our audience is going to be from those countries anyway, we may as well focus on them.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:52, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too was wary of bias. However, realistically we can&#039;t fit everybody&#039;s airdates on the main page. I&#039;d like to have that info here, but it&#039;s not our primary mission (we&#039;re not tvguide.com). I concur that we should select a cutoff for main page airdates and then store the rest on a separate page. Maybe a one-link depth (clicking the &amp;quot;airdates&amp;quot; icon would take you to the &amp;quot;All airdates&amp;quot; article, of which the &amp;quot;US/UK/CAN&amp;quot; is just one of the child templates. This would require a change to the main page (pointing to the new US/UK/CAN template), the creation of the US/UK/CAN template, and a massive redesign of Mainpage/airdates to accomodate the new &amp;quot;global airdate&amp;quot; scheme (as well as including a display/edit of the US/UK/CAN template). That&#039;d be my best guess. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:03, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::{{support}} Before it was a problem having no airdates. Now we have a ton. [[BW:TV]]? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:41, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It might be late for my suggestions, but I was waiting for an official information. Here:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;1-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;It&#039;s now official, Space Channel will be following the SciFi broadcasts. But it will be airing the day after, the saturday. So the Canadian airdate is almost the same as the US, it&#039;ll be kind of redundant, right? So my suggestion is to merge US and CAN, and have a side note that explain that CAN is the day after, the saturday.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or 2-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;My second suggestion is to have, on the main page, a quick list of the &#039;&#039;&#039;next new&#039;&#039;&#039; episode for each contry. Something like:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::::&#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Fri. October 6th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;CAN&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Sat. October 7th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; - October...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;AUS&#039;&#039;&#039; » ...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;etc.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We can also use the flag of the country! The idea of the list came because I&#039;m not sure about the airdates of the reruns and the marathons needs to be on the main page and I think everyone can wish to come here just to have a quick look to know when the next episode is. But, with that, we create a second page with a section for each country for all the reruns airdates, the last week episode, the next two or tree weeks episodes... In other words, a TvGuide page. Some people might be interested in that kind of information, and since it won&#039;t be on the main page, I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a problem to have a TvGuide.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;We keep it that way, it&#039;s good enough :) --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 13:13, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well... we already have the next and previous episode up at the top, but the airdates give the time and channel. {{flag|US}} is not working :( But to understand you correcty....&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Main page - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Other airdates - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::(New Page) TV Reruns - Times of next reruns for the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I would still suggest we keep the same lanauges and not do this witht he german dates as they have their own wiki. But US, UK, CAN, and AU I see no problem with. I would have to get some more flags imported :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Why the US flag doesn&#039;t work?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I agree to keep &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; airdates on the &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; main page (and german date with german wiki...). The idea with the list on the main page, is to have at most 2 lines per country (well maybe 3). And just have the next new episode &#039;&#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039;&#039;. Ex: The next new on SciFi is on October 6th. &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The new page is for all the others airdates. Like Space Channel will, if I remember well, air once again TOS. So we need a kind of TvGuide. Re-air TOS or all the reruns or marathons, is kind of the same thing: an encore presentation. So the new page is for that, all the dates including the previous episode&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;So, MP is short and quick with every country watching in english (with the flags or not).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;And New Page is long and detailed for every country (not for the one who has their wiki, like german).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I hope this is clear. --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 16:00, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::US flag is having SVG problems. Still trying to figure that one out. I think this is a soild idea. Would clean up the &amp;quot;text&amp;quot; a bit. I&#039;ll post any example here on the possiable look. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:06, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Technical research and development wiki&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Under &amp;quot;sister projects&amp;quot;: I&#039;m a little behind, sorry I&#039;m out of the loop; what is that/how does it work?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:29, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: It&#039;s merely the Hangar Bay, which is currently down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:30, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was about to post that :) Currently offiline. Getting to it in a little bit. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Images - Not many... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While I am on the subject (http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/0000esw7) has tons of images that can be uploaded with the {{tl|promo}} tag over at the media wiki. Should we just import them all and label them for use, or just upload when needed? I can say for sure we can upload some from &amp;quot;Scar&amp;quot; because the [[Scar]] guide is void of pictures. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2,000,000 Page Views!? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn&#039;t we just pass the &#039;&#039;1,000,000&#039;&#039; page views milestone earlier this summer? Have we had a million page views this summer alone?!&lt;br /&gt;
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I better buy several more [[Mop Boy|mops]]. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Congrats to us! Yay! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The [[Mop Boy|one]] i&#039;m using atm is getting very worn but Joe refuses to pay for a new one :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks for the [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support/Proposals|idea]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:50, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Didn&#039;t you get the memo? :-P -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:18, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is it done?!? This is the only Wiki(that i&#039;v seen) with compleetly diferent colors and styell can some one tell me how it is don(you can put it on my talk page)?[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 01:50, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This wiki still has a theme in the usual wiki colours but a new desiend was created by some members of this wiki to give it a unique look and feel. The [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki] site has some great tips on how to do all this. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:18, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==3 Million Page Views==&lt;br /&gt;
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Past 3 million sometime today. Another million right in around a month :). --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 12:44, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;ll check the server statistics as well... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:17, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Well, it&#039;s pretty damn cool. What&#039;s really cool is that the referrers are coming more and more from outside the USA. Most of them are, actually, from Googke UK, Google Germany, and Google Canada. There are even hits from Myspace and non-English language forums... interesting. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:42, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Message from [[User:Day|Day]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He says he misses us and he&#039;s working full time. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Woo and Yay for Day :D http://www.woo-yay.net/images/12-04-05_cat-bite-woo.gif --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:21, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Glad that he&#039;s working, and we&#039;ll continue to save a spot for him on the couch in the break room. Though the time has come for us to consider stadium seating options... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:24, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested addition to Main Page: Link to the episode guides ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would be nice to have a link to the episode guide on the Main Page, in addition to the links to the most recent episode and the next episode. It takes several clicks to get to the Season 3 episode list or the list for any other season.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:123home123|123home123]] 2:53, 14 October 2006 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Takes me two steps. [[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Portal]] → Episode Guide. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:13, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You might not know that you have to go to the portal to get to the episode guides. I agree with 123home123, Im sure that the importance of an episode guite warrents a clreal link on the front page --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:10, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I believe the current system is more than sufficient; takes two clicks -- three if you want to get to a specific episode. The only issue I presently have is that the sub-portals (which has two icons, one of which is to the Episode Guide) should be placed as the first box on the portal page for RDM, TOS, and 1980. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:49, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIG NEWS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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a new seres has come to light OSC (Origenal Seres Continuashon). Dispit its (curantly) canseld state i beleve that it is worth doing as it was in producshon (see http://www.cylon.org/bsg/bsg-desanto-01.html).&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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| start = May 31st, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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| items =  {{archive-item|02|Friends...}} {{archive-item|02|Did you know...}} {{archive-item|02|Region 4 Season 2 DVD new Slimline Set}} {{archive-item|02|1900x1200 Res}} {{archive-item|02|Proposal to Open Wiki to Unregistered Users}} {{archive-item|02|If there was...}} {{archive-item|02|Style Sheet Completed}} {{archive-item|02|Your Screen Resolution}} {{archive-item|02|Quotes}} {{archive-item|02|Link to chainki.org Battlestar Galactica pages}} {{archive-item|02|Season 3 Teaser}} {{archive-item|02|IE v. Firefox}} {{archive-item|02|Airdates}} {{archive-item|02|CSS with Images|end=Y}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Battlestar Wiki &amp;quot;referenced&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
A &amp;quot;little bird&amp;quot; tipped me of to a [http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=doomsday_not_as_much_fun_as_you_d_think&amp;amp;more=1&amp;amp;c=1&amp;amp;tb=1&amp;amp;pb=1 Scientific American blog entry] that referenced Battlestar Wiki. It&#039;s kind of dangerous doing a direct link to wiki-content like that, but it&#039;s neat that we&#039;re being linked to. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:57, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For those curious, [[User:Gmusser]] is the author of the blog entry. (This can be deduced from the link and the author&#039;s name.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:28, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Question: Should we be annoyed that someone used BattlestarWiki material in their magazine like that, or does it not matter because they&#039;re things he contributed to, or what?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:35, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It doesn&#039;t strike me as a bad thing. Of course, I didn&#039;t check to see if the very similar wording was originally contributed by him; I&#039;d imagine it was, so it&#039;d be all positive. To work in a nitpick, so far as I can tell, it&#039;s not in the magazine, just online in their blog. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:41, 8 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External images not working amnymore==&lt;br /&gt;
See my user page. All external images are no just showing as links --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:54, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That sounds like it&#039;s probably a Mediawiki setting that can be toggled. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:02, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, it happened to me, as well; I tend to assume the same thing about the cause. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:13, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ive also noticed some odd things like the &amp;lt;nowki&amp;gt; tags and stuff arnt working properly, take a look at the box on the edit page where you can click the special characters and also the summaries on the recent edits. Has the wiki software been updated in the last few days to maybe have caused these little glitches? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:40, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I attempted to invoke {{tl|tl}} once or twice in edit summaries if that&#039;s what you mean, but I was forgetting that templates are not supposed to work in edit summaries. (It would do unfortunate things to upload summaries, for one thing.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:29, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No this is something thats happened very recently. Edit this page and look at the bottom of the page. The code to add to your edits now is wrapped with &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; when it shoudl&#039;nt parse that only the actual code in between. Its hard to explain but i think its related to the images not showing up Something has changed in the last week to make this all happen. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:56, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I&#039;ll look into this... it&#039;s probably a setting issue since I upgraded the Wiki software to MediaWiki 1.7.1. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:55, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Something else ive noticed. When you search for an article that has no page yet. Eg http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Wooyay it automaticly takes you to the edit page http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Wooyay&amp;amp;action=edit --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:30, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Actually, that was a change I made... I was trying to see something. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:31, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I should have mentioned this but I noticed that if I hit ENTER key intead of clicking SEARCH, it gives the same behavior that Mercifull reports. (Maybe I shouldn&#039;t do that??).--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:05, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== QotD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The quote is in need of an update. Would anybody be willing to do the honors? --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 16:33, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Often I have to do a Crtl-F5 in IE on one of my computers to get it to refresh the QotD. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:15, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Depends on where you live also. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:18, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The quote of the day today (October 7, 2006) is incorrect. It should be as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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Tyrol: You know, we need to figure out whose side we&#039;re on.&lt;br /&gt;
Tigh: Which side are we on. We&#039;re on the side of the demons, Chief. We&#039;re evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t know that.&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[User:123home123|123home123]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== First person... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To get http://media.battlestarwiki.org/ active on their computer gets a [[Wikipedia:Cookie|cookie]]. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:36, 14 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I win. Got it working 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m sorry, but I stole your cookie. Now I need some milk... :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:33, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Season 3 Teaser  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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During the SG-1 200th episode. Did someone capture this?! There was some shots that were not in the ... well original one. :-D --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:23, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will DVR the 1:00AM repeat. Thanks for the heads ups. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:30, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::it&#039;s a SciFi and Monk night. :-) (almost got the subdomains working with joe cept I have to do some reading so rewriting rules) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is the special. Not the episode it self, but I would get the show also. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For some unexplicable reason, I didn&#039;t check the guide, like I always do on friday, when I got home or I would have been watching it (the special).  I always DVR the &#039;Gates. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Did a quick writeup for the one on SG1-200 [[User:Gougef/Season 3 Teaser#Teaser From SG1-200 | here]].--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I Tivo&#039;ed it on the first wave, some shots of Gatea, more Tigh (He&#039;s the &amp;quot;narrator&amp;quot;) a great shot of Boomer (After entering the prison), Six. It was great, I haven&#039;t watched it again since I recorded it, but I will in a while (obviousley). --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 21:48, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this it? http://www.lucylawless.info/battlestar-galactica/episodetrailers.html --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 19:12, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is the Eureka teaser, which some of shots are in the this new one. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:34, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They air different trailers for different shows? --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 12:12, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I may have missed it, but I don&#039;t think they have aired the same exact teaser twice? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:17, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Media&amp;quot; Uploading ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now active. You can head over the the [http://media.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/ Media Wiki], sign up (with your same name), and start uploading. You won&#039;t be able to link the images to any articles pages just yet, but you can tag the image and upload them correctly for now. :) Enjoy! :) (Anyone have any ideas for a Main Page design?) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:21, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I was thinking of a smaller version of the Main Page design we have now. That would be fine by me. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:02, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Technical ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Typo under Sister Projects. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would have fixed it but I (being DUH!) couldn&#039;t figure out how to get to the page. When I click on the icon button beside &amp;quot;Sister&amp;quot; it stays on the home page. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:25, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::doh. my fault. I&#039;ll change it in the [[BW:MAIN]] project so it won&#039;t happen again :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fix is up on main page. Battlestar Wiki: 1 Confusing Navigation: 0. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:10, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Search Box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Merc and others have been suggestion to me that we move the search box after the &amp;quot;navigation&amp;quot; box. Just wanted to get some option before I made such a move. Let me know. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:18, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d lean towards &amp;quot;movin&#039; on up&amp;quot;. It&#039;s on my screen at 1280x1024, but I can imagine it&#039;d easily fall off smaller resolutions, and it&#039;s pretty useful for getting around (especially once you&#039;re used to shortcuts, etc.) I&#039;m really enjoying the bsgMonoBook, by the way! I&#039;m less enthused about the color scheme than I am the fact that we&#039;ve got a choice now. If you don&#039;t like it, you can always run your own skin (now). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:22, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Support as per discussion on gtalk. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:03, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Good idea. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:00, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yeah, move it up, please. Just had the same idea. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 16:26, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::k. It will likly happen later tonight when go gets to do a nother update of the files. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:27, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:42, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles: Font style in edit box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m used to the fixed-width typeface in the editing box. Is this a new characteristic of the three skin options? I like the CSS for the most part, but it would be better to see text with a fixed width option more characteristic of wikis. Also, the Preview header text &amp;quot;This is only a preview; changes have not yet been saved!&amp;quot; shown in a article edit mode with the default BSG skin is so dark in my Firefox browser as to be unreadable.  --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:37, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Characterostic - Yes. I can change to what font. I am starting to hate the font in here myself because I can&#039;t see the wiki code very well. So give me a font and I will change it. Preview text - Sending to Joe for an upload. Minor mistake on my part. Anything else? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:47, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Will be back to the font that it was before on next update. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:34, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:43, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Airdates==&lt;br /&gt;
Holy cow! Being informative is good, but the Airdates section is continuing to grow unchecked. Any suggestions as to how we could slim down the look on the mainpage, but still have it be easy to access for people to find their respective airdates? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:00, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I know this might sound biased, but one idea is to just list the US, Canada and UK airdates on the main page, then list all the other country airdates on a subpage in a fashion similar to what we do with the Main Page news. Since most of our audience is going to be from those countries anyway, we may as well focus on them.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:52, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too was wary of bias. However, realistically we can&#039;t fit everybody&#039;s airdates on the main page. I&#039;d like to have that info here, but it&#039;s not our primary mission (we&#039;re not tvguide.com). I concur that we should select a cutoff for main page airdates and then store the rest on a separate page. Maybe a one-link depth (clicking the &amp;quot;airdates&amp;quot; icon would take you to the &amp;quot;All airdates&amp;quot; article, of which the &amp;quot;US/UK/CAN&amp;quot; is just one of the child templates. This would require a change to the main page (pointing to the new US/UK/CAN template), the creation of the US/UK/CAN template, and a massive redesign of Mainpage/airdates to accomodate the new &amp;quot;global airdate&amp;quot; scheme (as well as including a display/edit of the US/UK/CAN template). That&#039;d be my best guess. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:03, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::{{support}} Before it was a problem having no airdates. Now we have a ton. [[BW:TV]]? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:41, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It might be late for my suggestions, but I was waiting for an official information. Here:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;1-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;It&#039;s now official, Space Channel will be following the SciFi broadcasts. But it will be airing the day after, the saturday. So the Canadian airdate is almost the same as the US, it&#039;ll be kind of redundant, right? So my suggestion is to merge US and CAN, and have a side note that explain that CAN is the day after, the saturday.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or 2-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;My second suggestion is to have, on the main page, a quick list of the &#039;&#039;&#039;next new&#039;&#039;&#039; episode for each contry. Something like:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::::&#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Fri. October 6th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;CAN&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Sat. October 7th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; - October...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;AUS&#039;&#039;&#039; » ...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;etc.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We can also use the flag of the country! The idea of the list came because I&#039;m not sure about the airdates of the reruns and the marathons needs to be on the main page and I think everyone can wish to come here just to have a quick look to know when the next episode is. But, with that, we create a second page with a section for each country for all the reruns airdates, the last week episode, the next two or tree weeks episodes... In other words, a TvGuide page. Some people might be interested in that kind of information, and since it won&#039;t be on the main page, I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a problem to have a TvGuide.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;We keep it that way, it&#039;s good enough :) --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 13:13, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well... we already have the next and previous episode up at the top, but the airdates give the time and channel. {{flag|US}} is not working :( But to understand you correcty....&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Main page - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Other airdates - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::(New Page) TV Reruns - Times of next reruns for the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I would still suggest we keep the same lanauges and not do this witht he german dates as they have their own wiki. But US, UK, CAN, and AU I see no problem with. I would have to get some more flags imported :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Why the US flag doesn&#039;t work?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I agree to keep &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; airdates on the &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; main page (and german date with german wiki...). The idea with the list on the main page, is to have at most 2 lines per country (well maybe 3). And just have the next new episode &#039;&#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039;&#039;. Ex: The next new on SciFi is on October 6th. &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The new page is for all the others airdates. Like Space Channel will, if I remember well, air once again TOS. So we need a kind of TvGuide. Re-air TOS or all the reruns or marathons, is kind of the same thing: an encore presentation. So the new page is for that, all the dates including the previous episode&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;So, MP is short and quick with every country watching in english (with the flags or not).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;And New Page is long and detailed for every country (not for the one who has their wiki, like german).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I hope this is clear. --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 16:00, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::US flag is having SVG problems. Still trying to figure that one out. I think this is a soild idea. Would clean up the &amp;quot;text&amp;quot; a bit. I&#039;ll post any example here on the possiable look. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:06, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Technical research and development wiki&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Under &amp;quot;sister projects&amp;quot;: I&#039;m a little behind, sorry I&#039;m out of the loop; what is that/how does it work?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:29, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: It&#039;s merely the Hangar Bay, which is currently down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:30, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was about to post that :) Currently offiline. Getting to it in a little bit. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Images - Not many... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While I am on the subject (http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/0000esw7) has tons of images that can be uploaded with the {{tl|promo}} tag over at the media wiki. Should we just import them all and label them for use, or just upload when needed? I can say for sure we can upload some from &amp;quot;Scar&amp;quot; because the [[Scar]] guide is void of pictures. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2,000,000 Page Views!? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn&#039;t we just pass the &#039;&#039;1,000,000&#039;&#039; page views milestone earlier this summer? Have we had a million page views this summer alone?!&lt;br /&gt;
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I better buy several more [[Mop Boy|mops]]. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Congrats to us! Yay! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The [[Mop Boy|one]] i&#039;m using atm is getting very worn but Joe refuses to pay for a new one :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks for the [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support/Proposals|idea]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:50, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Didn&#039;t you get the memo? :-P -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:18, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is it done?!? This is the only Wiki(that i&#039;v seen) with compleetly diferent colors and styell can some one tell me how it is don(you can put it on my talk page)?[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 01:50, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This wiki still has a theme in the usual wiki colours but a new desiend was created by some members of this wiki to give it a unique look and feel. The [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki] site has some great tips on how to do all this. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:18, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==3 Million Page Views==&lt;br /&gt;
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Past 3 million sometime today. Another million right in around a month :). --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 12:44, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;ll check the server statistics as well... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:17, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Well, it&#039;s pretty damn cool. What&#039;s really cool is that the referrers are coming more and more from outside the USA. Most of them are, actually, from Googke UK, Google Germany, and Google Canada. There are even hits from Myspace and non-English language forums... interesting. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:42, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Message from [[User:Day|Day]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He says he misses us and he&#039;s working full time. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Woo and Yay for Day :D http://www.woo-yay.net/images/12-04-05_cat-bite-woo.gif --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:21, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Glad that he&#039;s working, and we&#039;ll continue to save a spot for him on the couch in the break room. Though the time has come for us to consider stadium seating options... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:24, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested addition to Main Page: Link to the episode guides ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would be nice to have a link to the episode guide on the Main Page, in addition to the links to the most recent episode and the next episode. It takes several clicks to get to the Season 3 episode list or the list for any other season.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:123home123|123home123]] 2:53, 14 October 2006 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Takes me two steps. [[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Portal]] → Episode Guide. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:13, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You might not know that you have to go to the portal to get to the episode guides. I agree with 123home123, Im sure that the importance of an episode guite warrents a clreal link on the front page --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:10, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I believe the current system is more than sufficient; takes two clicks -- three if you want to get to a specific episode. The only issue I presently have is that the sub-portals (which has two icons, one of which is to the Episode Guide) should be placed as the first box on the portal page for RDM, TOS, and 1980. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:49, 14 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIG NEWS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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a new seres has come to light OSC (Origenal Seres Continuashon). Dispit its (curantly) canseld state i beleve that it is worth doing as it was in producshon.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;For discussions prior to January 1, 2006, [http://battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASpencerian&amp;amp;diff=21890&amp;amp;oldid=21664 click here.]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;For discussions prior to June 1, 2006, [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&amp;amp;oldid=60768 click here.]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;For discussions prior to September 1, 2006, [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&amp;amp;oldid=75116 click here.]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Matrix Wiki ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No problem. :) I&#039;ll work on it at the Hangerbay. We talking Green/Black/White scheme? I think I can do &amp;quot;Glowing&amp;quot; text for the links. That would be neat. ;-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:12, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Shane, your extraordinary talents there will be greatly appreciated. It is an ultra-small wiki whose look needs a good start. I&#039;m an admin there now as well. Recommendations: Don&#039;t change the wiki&#039;s name; yep, a green/black/white scheme would be great, toy with the glowing links, it sounds interesting; even the most basic templates are missing; and seek out a person named One.relic, who says he is a graphic designer and may be like Mercifull here in his skills. Content is desperately needed too--we haven&#039;t standards or conventions yet, but I&#039;m hoping to steer things to parallel our rules here; aired/filmed content is king, written is OK (comics and official printed matter), games are separate continuity (except &amp;quot;Enter the Matrix&amp;quot;). You da man--thanks for considering. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:11, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::http://hb.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;amp;useskin=bsgmatrixbook :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:09, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Interesting. Give it a test page there and see what the others think. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:07, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::You don&#039;t even need to register there. It&#039;s open to IP editing. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:45, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::It&#039;ll probably remain that way until or unless we get hit too hard by spammers or vandals. We were open to IP editing until a year ago, as you know. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:23, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::aye. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:30, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DragonCon 2006 Special Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I attended [http://www.dragoncon.org DragonCon 2006] in Atlanta this past Labor Day weekend. It was heavily rich with &#039;&#039;Battlestar&#039;&#039;  panels and guests, and I have quite a few stories to tell, and a few pictures. One particular bit of news I have will make many contributors very happy. I&#039;ll give the scoop sometime this week. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:35, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:My son attended, guess I better give him a call. Can&#039;t wait for your update :)! --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:07, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wonderful! Looking forward to what you have to say! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:29, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:sweet. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:51, 5 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===DragonCon 2006 Report===&lt;br /&gt;
DragonCon, for those not in the know, is a general SF convention held annually in Atlanta, Georgia. This convention is one of the largest in the country, with over 20,000 attendees. This was my first visit at this convention after hearing much about it from other friends.&lt;br /&gt;
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This year, the &amp;quot;con&amp;quot; featured many stars from the series, who met fans, signed autographs and took photos with the fans. Actors [[Richard Hatch]], [[Tahmoh Penikett]], [[Aaron Douglas]], [[Kate Vernon]], and [[James Callis]] were on hand. Of them, Hatch was happily discussing both his roles in the Original and Re-imagined Series with equal enthusiasm, signing his Original Series continuity books in his role as [[Apollo (TOS)|Apollo]] and photos of himself as [[Tom Zarek]]. Kate Vernon&#039;s loveliness is understated on-screen. James Callis, sadly, was nowhere to be found during my visits; he was the only BSG star I did not personally see.&lt;br /&gt;
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I made a beeline to Aaron Douglas and Tahmoh Penikett, who appeared to be having too much fun with the fans. I commented to Tahmoh that he picked one of the best short-term jobs that turned long-term in his role as Helo. After lining their pockets with a little cash for autographs, I asked my girlfriend to take a photo of the three of us. She did it fine, but I bungled the saving of the photo. I&#039;m still gnashing my teeth over that. A friend of mine (who stars as George Lucas in the [http://www.atomfilms.com/af/content/pitching_lucas best-of-show Official Star Wars Fan Film for 2006]) visited Aaron and Tahmoh as well. They told him immediately that they both began betting if he (whose name is actually &amp;quot;George&amp;quot;) was the real George Lucas as they watched my friend roam the aisles of the signing area.&lt;br /&gt;
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DragonCon was filled with panels on Battlestar&#039;s influences and comparisons to other SF shows. Being my first trip, things were so busy (and the programming schedule so confusing to read) that I missed attending any of these panels, as well as a Friday party they called the &amp;quot;Colonial Day Celebration.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DC2006 SuenixOfficers.jpg|200px]][[Image:DC2006flightsuit.jpg|200px]][[Image:DC06_WikiCrew.jpg|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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But it was the number of fans who built their costumes, and their intricate attention to detail, that struck me. There were several &amp;quot;Starbucks,&amp;quot; and many officers (both in Original Series [[Colonial Warrior]] costumes as well as Re-imagined Series costumes). I saw three [[flight suit]]s, a half-dozen hangar deck crew, and many RDM officers.&lt;br /&gt;
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What thrilled me most was when my girlfriend and I (dressed as &amp;quot;Trinity&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Morpheus&amp;quot; from the &amp;quot;Matrix&amp;quot; movies) ran into a group of people in new-BSG costumes. I asked them if they knew about the Battlestar Wiki. Not only did they know about the wiki--they used the wiki&#039;s information on the various details of the officers and flight suit uniforms and insignia to help build their costumes! Sadly, the photos I have uploaded here were done with my handheld phone camera and are of poor quality that does not do justice to the group&#039;s handywork. It would be great if one of them would upload an improved photo should any of them read this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Aside from the popularity of &amp;quot;Firefly&amp;quot; and its movie, &#039;&#039;Serenity&#039;&#039;, next to the Star Wars fans and many, many superhero costumes, Battlestar Galactica, old and new, was well represented. And we (the wiki) helped indirectly to make that happen. All contributors should feel very proud. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:26, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The flight suits would be cool. Ive always thought they were pretty wicked. You gotta wonder if some fo those people in the pics are in physical shape enough to be in the military tho ;) hehe --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:34, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thought that you might find this of interest [http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/battlestargalacticacostumes/  Battlestar Galactica Costumes Yahoo Group]. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:06, 7 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks, Frankie. I just signed up for it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:31, 7 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[User:Rinsie|Rinsie]]  (Our Cain) gave me a hand in adding the photo. Our Apollo pointed us here. Thanks again for the shout-out, and indeed, we could NOT have created the costumes without the help of the contributors at Battlestar Wiki. See you again next year! [http://www.thestormhaven.com/images/toshare/DragonCon06/FinishedCostumes2.jpg  (Here&#039;s another link to the photo.)] [[User:Imperatrix|Imperatrix]] 12:45, 9 September 2006 (CDT)--[[User:Imperatrix|Imperatrix]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thanks, Imperatrix. That&#039;s a MUCH better photo; we can see the distinctive colors and detail that your group worked hard on. (I &#039;&#039;thought&#039;&#039; that Rinsie there was striking to look like Cain...I was impressed.). To preserve that photo we might add it here to our media library. We&#039;re all happy that the data here helped add to your fun! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:58, 9 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Spenc, it was alreayd uploaded by [[User:Rinsie|Rinsie]]. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:06, 9 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Cool beans. Thanks. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:07, 9 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::[[:Image:FinishedCostumes2.jpg]] is the link. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:11, 9 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, no sense just showing the link. Here&#039;s the photo: --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:30, 9 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Message at media ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Left [[:md:User talk:Spencerian|you a message at media]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:04, 12 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Reply ==&lt;br /&gt;
Would it not be gramaticly incorrect to not capitalise it however, Battlestar is a name in it&#039;s self is it not? [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 08:12, 16 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Does this belong somewhere else maybe?&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;battlestar&amp;quot; is a shiptype. You don&#039;t capitalize &amp;quot;destroyer&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;frigate&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;cruiser&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;battleship&amp;quot;, do you? --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:24, 16 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Serenity&#039;s answer is correct. Technically, we need not capitalize &amp;quot;Viper,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Raptor&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Raider&amp;quot; here by the same convention, but the wiki accepts it in either form (although most capitalize these types). In short, &amp;quot;battlestar&amp;quot; is not a proper noun and thus is not capitalized. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:32, 16 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Looks great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the welcome back! The site looks great. Everything is much expanded compared to last time I was here. Good work. :) Cheers, [[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 07:42, 21 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks are best spread to many, many contributors here. They are such nitpickers for precision. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:49, 21 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MediaWiki:Emailuser ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Spence, since you&#039;re a major contributor and seem like a smart guy, I thought I&#039;d ask you this: Could you send me a copy of the source code for [[MediaWiki:Emailuser]]?  I&#039;m experimenting on another wiki and trying to see if I can implement this there. Any helpful hints or tips you can offer as well would be greatly appreciated, and/or if you know a resource I can check out to learn more about it. Thanks very much! --[[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 00:03, 25 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t understand. The source code? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:05, 25 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It was more Greek to me. Might want to ask Sasoriza for specifics? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:25, 25 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jammer Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
So I take it you heard Martin too? I&#039;m going back to listen again, but it sounded more like an &amp;quot;L&amp;quot; name (as somebody else noted in the &amp;quot;Resistance&amp;quot; talk). I had wanted to avoid moving it until we&#039;d nailed down exactly what the name was. (Which is why I replied on Jammer&#039;s talk page.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:49, 26 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, I listened carefully, but do verify; I&#039;m under the weather today... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:50, 26 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh. My bad. Now I hear it. It&#039;s at about 1:29 remaining, by the way. James Martin it is. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:52, 26 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TOS Battle Series ==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for present-tensing (etc.) those battle articles. It&#039;s really strange reading articles that I contributed to so long ago. I like the symmetry that it creates between TOS and RDM, though (each having their own battle series). I suppose the same could be done up for 1980, if I ever getting around to watching that show. (Assuming it doesn&#039;t rot out or otherwise damage the portions of my Tivo&#039;s hard drive that the show occupies.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:56, 3 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem. I was debating this with Merv, who went and did it anyway on the RDM counterparts. I prefer consistency and all that. Reads a bit more lively, too. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:52, 4 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Derived Content ==&lt;br /&gt;
Been working on the fanwanking essay and input some derived content. I think that it would be neat to add something about Occam&#039;s Razor and keeping plausible specualation and logical deduction at the simpliest level. Hope that makes sense. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:03, 3 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:A very good addition. I was going to add something to the fanwanking info as well. It&#039;s a slippery slope that needs clear differentiation. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 06:46, 4 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, the more I worked on it, the more I realized it is a fine line. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 07:12, 4 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==CNP vs virus==&lt;br /&gt;
[[User talk:Mercifull#CNP vs virus|Here]] you said that you reverted an edit i made, all I did was do a minor edit to the categories TOS-&amp;gt;RDM I didn&#039;t make the change that you mentioned. ;) --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:57, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, my bad. I thought I read the edit history right. Sorry for that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:02, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No problem, i&#039;ve made the same mistake before too :) --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:03, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah. Figured out who. It was Merv on his misinformation campaign that did it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:16, 6 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My RFA ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;messagebox&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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That must be one of the coolest (and well formatted) thank-you messages I&#039;ve seen. Now, get back to mopping! :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:12, 8 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Roger and out! [[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:14, 8 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mountin Range ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a screencap of the range where the Raptors FTL to, but I have no idea of the name. Figured you know. I can&#039;t find the article. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:07, 10 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Found it. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:21, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Created a.. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Template to hold the &amp;quot;Science Series&amp;quot;. :-) Enjoy! :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:57, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I noticed! Thanks for the addition. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:58, 11 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== map ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recreated it. (get rid of it when you are done)[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 02:59, 23 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I moved this to the discussion page, because I have some questions about the validity of this part of text:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hey, My name Is Lane&lt;br /&gt;
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:Me And My Dad Came Up With A Way This Could Work.&lt;br /&gt;
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:You See IT IS POSSIBLE To Have 3 ORBITS Within A &amp;quot;Life-Zone&amp;quot; According To Everything We Are Coming Up With There Could Be Up To 4 Planets In 1 Orbit So Therefore You Could Have 12 Planets In The Orbits Of What Would Be Say VENUS,EARTH, And MARS&lt;br /&gt;
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This sounds slightly plausable, though I have my doubts as to how 12 planets could be crammed in the orbits of Earth, Venus and Mars without adversely affecting each other with their gravimetric mass...&lt;br /&gt;
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Though here&#039;s my primary issue...&lt;br /&gt;
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My issue is that no actual link to a paper or entry on the Internet (or Wikipedia for that matter) is provided in support of this assertion. &lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest, I also have an issue with how this is written.  I&#039;m not in the business of being a card holding member of the Grammar Nitpicking committee, since I am also imperfect on many levels, however this sticks out like a sore thumb when I read over the rest of the entry.  It just doesn&#039;t fit...&lt;br /&gt;
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So, until someone can provide me with some sort of technical / scientific paper on this, I&#039;m not willing to include this above content, in any way, shape or form.  &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 23:34, 26 Feb 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, never accept this. A 12 year old would be able to tell you that such a concept is ridiculous. Also how do you define a lifezone? It can&#039;t be done! [[User:Jxh487|Jxh487]] 17:14, 21 August 2006 (CDT)jxh487&lt;br /&gt;
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**Why is everyone speculating that the home system of the 12 Colonies had to have more than one star?!  They&#039;ve never said anything like that.  Why is it so hard to believe that they just happen to have 12 inhabitable planets in one solar system?  Ron D. Moore has STATED in his blog that they are in one system, and that they are ALL inhabitable (whether they were FOUND like that or terraformed I&#039;m not sure).  What&#039;s the point of contention here?  ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s scientifically implausible to cram twelve planets into the habitabe zone of a single star. Three would be pushing it. Making the Colonial&#039;s home system a binary star obviates the need to suggest terafforming capabilities belied by the colonials&#039; otherwise low-tech abilities. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Not everything in BSG is or will be scientifically accurate, just plausible. The Colonies and their arrangement is a holdback from the original series, so this is a 30+ year argument that still has no answer. At least RDM has practically acknowledged that this isn&#039;t the cleanest scientific possibility. I&#039;m for the binary or trinary system configuration. It may also be possible for some of Colonies to be inhabitable Earth-sized satellites of another planet in a double-planet configuration. We can make up anything to fit them into a large solar system, really, based on what we do know about astronomy. But mind you, the Colonials have FTL travel, we don&#039;t. Ficticious as they are, they may know more about certain aspects of their worlds they we can presume until presented the subject in a show. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:23, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Goldilocks Zone, and the &#039;n&#039;-body Problem==&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with Peter Farago, for once.  Information on other Wiki sources, like the one on the [[Wikipedia:Habitable Zone|Goldilocks Zone]] of a star, clearly say that there is a very small region about any particular star, depending on that star&#039;s size, heat, type, etc. in which an Earth-like planet may retain open bodies of water, and hence life.  However, there is no guarantee that the process of planet formation will produce even &#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039; significant body of mass within the hypothetical zone about any particular star.  The fact of the matter is that the planetary system about which we know the most (our own) has produced at &#039;&#039;best&#039;&#039; only two or three planets within this Goldilocks Zone, of which only one (guess which) has produced and sustained life as we know it.  However, the definition of a planet is ambiguous at best, I believe a more accurate interpretation of the likelihood that any body will form in the Goldilocks Zone can be obtained from an analysis of the distribution of &#039;&#039;mass&#039;&#039; in our Solar Sytem.  Looking at our system from the distribution of mass, it is painfully clear that only a very small portion of the available material of our planetary system during its incipient stages coalesced into planets anywhere near the habitable zone of the sun.  It is not at all certain that &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; material in some other planetary system would coalesce in a similar pattern.  Those who are interested in this topic should look up &#039;&#039;[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0387952896/qid=1128543927/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-7567430-0146234?v=glance&amp;amp;s=books Rare Earth]&#039;&#039; by Peter Ward.  In anycase, the Goldilocks Zone is really ancillary to the topic at hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What is really confusing people here, I think, is the concept of the [[Wikipedia:N-body problem|n-body problem]].  I&#039;m no expert on this (far from it), but basically two planet-sized objects will not be able to maintain themselves for very long if they occupy a single orbit about a star - eventually the gravitational interactions between the two planets and the planets and the sun will destabilize one or both of the planets.  An exception to this rule is embodied in the concept of the [[Wikipedia:Lagrangian Point|Lagrange Point]] (also called the &#039;&#039;restricted&#039;&#039; three-body problem), which hinges on the condition that one of these three hypothetical bodies has &#039;&#039;negligent mass&#039;&#039; (and therefore negligent gravity).  The Lagrange points should be familiar to fans of the [[Wikipedia:Gundam|Gundam]] anime series; the five colonies occupy the five &amp;quot;stable&amp;quot; Lagrange points.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is why, whenever you hear on the news about some large asteroid which &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; pass near the Earth in forty years or something - it&#039;s not possible to predict the orbits of &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; body in the universe with absolute certainty.  This &#039;&#039;isn&#039;t due&#039;&#039; to imperfect information, it&#039;s simply a mathematical fact.  This doesn&#039;t mean that our estimation of these orbits can&#039;t be very good - this is what astronomers are paid to do.  But there is always some mathematical error in these estimations.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So why am I blabbering on about the n-body problem?  Because large, inert bodies of mass (read, habitable planets) which can not correct their orbits continuously to maintain some exotic orbit will eventually destabilize due to the gravitational disturbances which are the natural result of the n-body problem.  Peter Ward is doubtful that even a single planet might form in the very restricted Goldilocks Zone about any particular star; but two,  &#039;&#039;three&#039;&#039;,  &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;twelve?&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;  Read up on the formation of our own large [[Wikipedia:Giant impact theory|moon]], which was apparently formed from a tremendous impact between our planet and another Mars-sized object which was occupying the same orbit for hundreds of millions of years, until they destabilized and collided.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Twelve Colonies are certainly situated in stable orbits about twelve &#039;&#039;separate&#039;&#039; stars, with no other significant bodies of mass within or anywhere near their orbit.  As to the arrangement of these stars, I&#039;ll leave that for another day.  &lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;[[User:Jzanjani|Jzanjani]] 17:04, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&#039;&#039;I agree with Peter Farago, for once.&#039;&#039; oh, come on, we have one fight and suddenly we&#039;re worst enemies? I don&#039;t resent your work here, and I hope you don&#039;t resent mine. Good things come out of discussion. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:46, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Zodiac==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;However, the revelations presented in [[The Raid|The Raid]] make it clear that the [[Twelve_Colonies|Twelve Colonies]] are not located in a single star system; in fact, each individual colony is situated in a separate [[Wikipedia:Zodiac|Zodiacal]] constellation, as viewed from Earth.  This would place the [[#Twelve_Colonies|Colonies]] many [[Wikipedia:Light-year|light-years]] apart.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;A more realistic explanation of the importance of Cyrannus in the mythology of the [[Battlestar Galactica %28RDM%29|reimagined series]] may be that it was the original destination of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies|Twelve Tribes]], perhaps a single star system predesignated as the future home of humanity.  Presumably, some later event prevented the Tribes from reaching Cyrannus, causing the subsequent diaspora.  However the issue of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies|early history]] of the Colonies is still under debate and considerably murky (see the [[Sacred_Scrolls#The_.22Three_Exodi.22_Interpretation|Three Exodi Interpretation]] of the Sacred Scrolls).&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is completely innacurate. The thirteenth tribe identified star patterns and matched them to the symbols of the twelve colonies; the colonies were not located in the constellations themselves. Otherwise earth would be directly in the center of them, its location not remotely mysterious, and it would actually take longer to travel from one colony to another than from one colony to earth. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A further strike against this edit is that the Colonies had many sub-light ships as shown in the mini-series. They had sufficient speed to gather with Roslin&#039;s rescue fleet over the few hours as Boomer (in an FTL-capable Raptor) or other ships located them, suggesting the distances (and number of ships) were small. For the Colonies to be as separated as suggested in that edit would make sub-light travel impossible since each colony would be too distant. Such travel would take months or years, instead of days or a couple of weeks. This is also presuming that only the space surrounding Caprica was searched, but space is BIG and time would still be a factor in a sub-light ship. Based on an earlier script of the mini-series, RDM considered the idea of making a single planet, Kobol, the home for all Colonies that would behave more as sovereign states like the U.S. When that idea didn&#039;t fit into the plan, RDM decided to go back to the TOS concept of separate planets in a single system. This is highly improbable to have so many inhabitable planets in such a fashion, astronomically, but it was one detail that the writers (and viewers) had to take as given (not that they would be much left of the Colonies to argue about this, anyway). [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:14, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Merged Content and Other Changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I merged the two relatively identical articles for Cyrannus into a single article and deleted unfounded speculation on its use in the RDM continuity as there is NO aired or deleted scene content I have found that uses the name to describe the solar system in the RDM continuity. The term has been used in the 2003 Video Game and the Original Series (albeit confusingly). Double redirects have been corrected. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:53, 19 January 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Factuality of &amp;quot;New&amp;quot; Planet Definitions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A recent edit from Troyian has added the recent adjustments in planetary definitions that, I think, might have been defined or under consideration by the IAU. Despite this data, the world of BSG is &#039;&#039;&#039;NOT&#039;&#039;&#039; necessarily the Milky Way we exist in. Contributors normally draw comparisons and contrasts to our actual galaxy as well as the fictional universe of Galactica. While the scientist&#039;s definitions may be relevant to our galaxy, they may not work well here for one sourced reason: At the miniseries conclusion, [[Elosha]] tells the assembly that the Lords of Kobol led the Twelve Tribes to the &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;12 worlds&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; that would form the Colonies. Not &amp;quot;planetoids,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;minor planets,&amp;quot; or other stuff. While it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; probable that not all of them are 100% Earthlike, all must be sufficiently habitable and resource-rich, and around 1 to 1.5 G. Otherwise, the colonial wars noted in back-history before the [[Articles of Colonization]] would make little sense, nor would many other socialogical and technical notes. For the most part, it seemed that these wars may have been stalemated or easily overmatched. The scientist&#039;s notes just don&#039;t fit with BSGs mentality or the peoples shown, who apparently don&#039;t have to adjust dramatically to major changes in climate (based on what we have seen). Comments? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:59, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Adding 3 new planets to the current 9:  Ceres, Charon, and Xena, to make 12 is irrelevant.  While the debate over &amp;quot;well were these &amp;quot;planets&amp;quot; Earth-like or some other definition of a &amp;quot;planet&amp;quot;?&amp;quot; is affected, it&#039;s not like &amp;quot;wow, there&#039;s 12 planets in the solar system now, maybe we&#039;re the 12 Colonies&amp;quot;:  You can&#039;t physically stand on Jupiter or Saturn or another gas giant.  Ganymede, Europa, and Titan are far more like &amp;quot;Planets&amp;quot; in that respect, in which case there would easily be more.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:41, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The latest update is that we may be down to eight planets. The IAU meeting has been very interesting. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:14, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Citations ==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve added several {{tl|citation needed}} entries to the article. I just wanted to comment that [[Wikipedia:Alpha Centauri]] is similarly adorned, and [[Wikipedia:Beta Centauri]] contradicts the distance given here. As such, I would like to emphasize that, per [[BW:CJ]], Wikipedia &#039;&#039;per se&#039;&#039; is not a valid source. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:55, 4 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Cite link to press release re: the formation &amp;amp; size limit for moons of gas giants is now added. Should have added that right off the bat, but the link I had wasn&#039;t working. I&#039;ve added a different link that does work, although it&#039;s not the one that was originally on the SWRT site. Don&#039;t know where that one went to&lt;br /&gt;
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2) In some cases, Wikipedia entries *are* valid sources. In this case, the entries for the Centauri stars matches what&#039;s being taught in the schools these days, and some of the contributors are professional and amateur astronomers with valid reputations. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) WRT the B Centauri distance &amp;quot;discrepancy&amp;quot;, add ~5 LY to the figure I posted in the entry here, and remember that the A Centauri pair and B Centauri are on a near LOS between B Cenauri and Sol, and that the pair is ~5 LY away from Sol. Simple math.&lt;br /&gt;
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...Not that I really want to get into an argument over this, but sorry kids, but I don&#039;t subscribe to the &amp;quot;If it&#039;s on Wikipedia, it&#039;s automatically a big fat lie&amp;quot; dogma. If that were true, everything on *this* Wiki would be a &amp;quot;big fat lie&amp;quot; as well. As it is, you&#039;ve let this bias and distrust overwhelm your need for cites. At the rate you&#039;re going, you&#039;ll be asking for a cite for every single letter and punctuation mark used :-P&lt;br /&gt;
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I mean, seriously - Proxima&#039;s been known to be a Red Dwarf since even *I* was born. Asking for a cite for that is like asking for a cite that we have a Moon in the sky, and water is wet...&lt;br /&gt;
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...I&#039;ve added cites to this section, although I&#039;m convinced that some of these cite demands were a bit of overkill. Some cite demands were removed as previous cites rendered those redundant. One or two cite demands were not rational, IMHO, and were removed.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(1) That is excellent.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(2) Wikipedia is valid where it cites sources, per [[BW:CJ]], but not where it is coated in citation requests. As far as I recall, I didn&#039;t even help make that policy. I find the whole &amp;quot;sorry kids&amp;quot; thing mildly offensive, and I think you are intentionally confusing &amp;quot;On Wikipedia does not imply true.&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;On Wikipedia implies false.&amp;quot; to provide a straw man.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(3) Adding 5 randomly is not something I would consider &amp;quot;[s]imple math.&amp;quot; For that matter, adding another 5 to account for A Centauri doesn&#039;t make sense, as it reads &#039;Beta Centauri, although visibly &amp;quot;closer&amp;quot; to Alpha A and B, is actually some 520 light years distant&#039; not &#039;520 light years more distant.&#039; For that matter, Wikipedia says both &amp;quot;approximately 525&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;530±50.&amp;quot; Forgive me, but that error bound seems excessively large to even bother specifying a second significant digit, much less a third.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(Un-numbered comments on the citation requests being excessive) I didn&#039;t know off-hand that Proxima is a Red Dwarf. As I am reasonably well-educated, I generally consider anything I don&#039;t know not to be general knowledge. If it is not general knowledge, it needs a citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I do now see that the citation requests on &amp;quot;...astronomers are now divided...&amp;quot; was redundant with requesting cites on both divisions. I also think that the &amp;quot;...Yavin...&amp;quot; sentence was more irrelevant than in need of citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would note that I am delighted you took the time to completely source your large and clearly well-informed contribution. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:23, 4 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Yippee.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) I honestly don&#039;t see a difference between the two. Granted, Wikipedia&#039;s gotten a lot of flack lately because of one corrupt politician having his entry updated to put a more positive spin on his abyssmal career - why Ted Kennedy hasn&#039;t done this yet escapes me - but as a result now every single article is suspect even if it has cites on it. CIP: one particular Wiki entry I referred to on another forum two years ago was viciously torn to shreds by two enthusiasts of the subject, claiming that all the cites were invalid because they linked to sites - gah, that sounds phonetically redundant - that were built and maintained by web authors who weren&#039;t &amp;quot;paid professionals&amp;quot; and/or &amp;quot;people who actually knew the guy&amp;quot;. When pointed out that two of those used as cites were *relatives* of the person in question, those same two dips attempted to invalidate those cites on the grounds that the relations had a &amp;quot;falling out&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t have time to play &amp;quot;Argument Clinic&amp;quot;, which is why I&#039;ve adopted the policy to treat Wikipedia as I&#039;d treat Brittanica or World Book; as long as it passes Occam&#039;s Razor and at least sounds plausible, then I&#039;ll use it as a cite until I see concrete proof that it&#039;s wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) Tell you what, since you&#039;re the one dealing with semantics, I&#039;ll let you tweak that one as you see fit. The distance from Sol to B Centauri is ~525 LY according to aol sources I&#039;ve found on the web save one, and that one entry was that one Wiki cite that has the +/-50 LY. I&#039;ll go with the majority here, and if you subtract ~5 LY from 525, you get 520. Again, I&#039;ll let you tweak the wording here as you see fit, and we&#039;ll go from there. Be advised that I&#039;m not really interested in getting into a big war on this. Just keep the results accurate and it should work out.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) I honestly learned that Proxima is a Red Dwarf in the 3rd grade, which was ~1970. My middle brother is a science teacher, and he verified this evening that his current series of authorized lecture notes - compiled from various textbooks - contains mention of the Centauri &amp;quot;trinary&amp;quot;, and while still claiming that the system is a graviometrically linked trinary, they note specifically that Proxima is, you guessed it, a Red Dwarf.&lt;br /&gt;
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To make matters more against your favor, I&#039;ve personally called three strippers I know, and they not only knew that Proxima was a Red Dwarf, but so did their worthless boyfriends. And yea, one of them is an amateur astronomer who&#039;s more in love with his Celestron, but that&#039;s a different story altogether...:-P&lt;br /&gt;
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5) I didn&#039;t see the &amp;quot;Yavin&amp;quot; mention as being irrelevant at all. The argument presented earlier in the entry called for habitable planets around gas giants. The most notable one seen on film has been, of course, Yavin IV. Unless the Yavin gas giant is about 6-7 times Jupiter mass, according to this theory Yavin IV can&#039;t be as habitable as we&#039;re led to believe in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
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...In any case, this might be a lesson to you &amp;quot;Jihadists&amp;quot; that it&#039;s possible to be overzealous in your quest for accuracy. ISTR an old fable about a sculptor who kept chisling away at a piece of rare, expensive marble, looking for the true image hidden within, but because he didn&#039;t like any of the images he found, kept chisling until there wasn&#039;t anything left of his expensive marble.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(2) If you want Wikipedia considered a valid source here, then bring it up on BW:CJ&#039;s talk page. I don&#039;t even know immediately how I would weigh in on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(3) I suppose 525 is correct, then.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(4) I&#039;m sure that at several points I knew that particular tidbit. My three most conveniently located collegiate friends didn&#039;t know it, but our anecdotal evidence is not particularly germane; it&#039;s just not something everyone immediately knows. Very many people know what a [[Wikipedia:FN P90|P90]] looks like, but information about it is still linked from [[KEW]]. That way, others can readily personally verify the episode citation visually.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(5) I don&#039;t see how mention of something similar in a different fictional universe is relevant to this particular article. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:02, 4 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, ~525 is more accurate, and from what I&#039;ve been able to gather due to the narrow parallax involved thanks to both Centauri systems being so visibly &amp;quot;adjacent&amp;quot;, adding a +/-5 between &amp;quot;525&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;LY&amp;quot; could give the figure a little fudge room. If my sources at JPL are correct, when the Webb platform goes up in a few years, it should be able to get a bit more accuracy on this figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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what if some of the colones are moons? I&#039;ll do a text map m=moon p=planet mp=mier planet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or some ting like that.[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi, Joseph. It&#039;s entirely possible (and probable, from an astrophysical point of view) that the Colonies were a mix of habitable moons and planets in the Re-imagined Series. What little information we&#039;ve been given about the wars between the Colonies prior to the [[Cylon War]] suggests big resource differences between colonies, where fighting caused strife until the [[Articles of Colonization]] and the war. We just don&#039;t truthfully know: [[Ron D. Moore]] hasn&#039;t elaborated further, and we limit our guesses here to what has been given. As far as the [[Original Series]], well, it had serious technical issues, and we&#039;ll never really know there. You did a nice job on your map; if possible, I&#039;ll see if it can be recreated in the main article to go with the topic. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:32, 13 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hey, My name Is Lane&lt;br /&gt;
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:Me And My Dad Came Up With A Way This Could Work.&lt;br /&gt;
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:You See IT IS POSSIBLE To Have 3 ORBITS Within A &amp;quot;Life-Zone&amp;quot; According To Everything We Are Coming Up With There Could Be Up To 4 Planets In 1 Orbit So Therefore You Could Have 12 Planets In The Orbits Of What Would Be Say VENUS,EARTH, And MARS&lt;br /&gt;
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This sounds slightly plausable, though I have my doubts as to how 12 planets could be crammed in the orbits of Earth, Venus and Mars without adversely affecting each other with their gravimetric mass...&lt;br /&gt;
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Though here&#039;s my primary issue...&lt;br /&gt;
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My issue is that no actual link to a paper or entry on the Internet (or Wikipedia for that matter) is provided in support of this assertion. &lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest, I also have an issue with how this is written.  I&#039;m not in the business of being a card holding member of the Grammar Nitpicking committee, since I am also imperfect on many levels, however this sticks out like a sore thumb when I read over the rest of the entry.  It just doesn&#039;t fit...&lt;br /&gt;
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So, until someone can provide me with some sort of technical / scientific paper on this, I&#039;m not willing to include this above content, in any way, shape or form.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Joe, never accept this. A 12 year old would be able to tell you that such a concept is ridiculous. Also how do you define a lifezone? It can&#039;t be done! [[User:Jxh487|Jxh487]] 17:14, 21 August 2006 (CDT)jxh487&lt;br /&gt;
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**Why is everyone speculating that the home system of the 12 Colonies had to have more than one star?!  They&#039;ve never said anything like that.  Why is it so hard to believe that they just happen to have 12 inhabitable planets in one solar system?  Ron D. Moore has STATED in his blog that they are in one system, and that they are ALL inhabitable (whether they were FOUND like that or terraformed I&#039;m not sure).  What&#039;s the point of contention here?  ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s scientifically implausible to cram twelve planets into the habitabe zone of a single star. Three would be pushing it. Making the Colonial&#039;s home system a binary star obviates the need to suggest terafforming capabilities belied by the colonials&#039; otherwise low-tech abilities. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Not everything in BSG is or will be scientifically accurate, just plausible. The Colonies and their arrangement is a holdback from the original series, so this is a 30+ year argument that still has no answer. At least RDM has practically acknowledged that this isn&#039;t the cleanest scientific possibility. I&#039;m for the binary or trinary system configuration. It may also be possible for some of Colonies to be inhabitable Earth-sized satellites of another planet in a double-planet configuration. We can make up anything to fit them into a large solar system, really, based on what we do know about astronomy. But mind you, the Colonials have FTL travel, we don&#039;t. Ficticious as they are, they may know more about certain aspects of their worlds they we can presume until presented the subject in a show. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:23, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Goldilocks Zone, and the &#039;n&#039;-body Problem==&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with Peter Farago, for once.  Information on other Wiki sources, like the one on the [[Wikipedia:Habitable Zone|Goldilocks Zone]] of a star, clearly say that there is a very small region about any particular star, depending on that star&#039;s size, heat, type, etc. in which an Earth-like planet may retain open bodies of water, and hence life.  However, there is no guarantee that the process of planet formation will produce even &#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039; significant body of mass within the hypothetical zone about any particular star.  The fact of the matter is that the planetary system about which we know the most (our own) has produced at &#039;&#039;best&#039;&#039; only two or three planets within this Goldilocks Zone, of which only one (guess which) has produced and sustained life as we know it.  However, the definition of a planet is ambiguous at best, I believe a more accurate interpretation of the likelihood that any body will form in the Goldilocks Zone can be obtained from an analysis of the distribution of &#039;&#039;mass&#039;&#039; in our Solar Sytem.  Looking at our system from the distribution of mass, it is painfully clear that only a very small portion of the available material of our planetary system during its incipient stages coalesced into planets anywhere near the habitable zone of the sun.  It is not at all certain that &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; material in some other planetary system would coalesce in a similar pattern.  Those who are interested in this topic should look up &#039;&#039;[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0387952896/qid=1128543927/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-7567430-0146234?v=glance&amp;amp;s=books Rare Earth]&#039;&#039; by Peter Ward.  In anycase, the Goldilocks Zone is really ancillary to the topic at hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What is really confusing people here, I think, is the concept of the [[Wikipedia:N-body problem|n-body problem]].  I&#039;m no expert on this (far from it), but basically two planet-sized objects will not be able to maintain themselves for very long if they occupy a single orbit about a star - eventually the gravitational interactions between the two planets and the planets and the sun will destabilize one or both of the planets.  An exception to this rule is embodied in the concept of the [[Wikipedia:Lagrangian Point|Lagrange Point]] (also called the &#039;&#039;restricted&#039;&#039; three-body problem), which hinges on the condition that one of these three hypothetical bodies has &#039;&#039;negligent mass&#039;&#039; (and therefore negligent gravity).  The Lagrange points should be familiar to fans of the [[Wikipedia:Gundam|Gundam]] anime series; the five colonies occupy the five &amp;quot;stable&amp;quot; Lagrange points.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is why, whenever you hear on the news about some large asteroid which &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; pass near the Earth in forty years or something - it&#039;s not possible to predict the orbits of &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; body in the universe with absolute certainty.  This &#039;&#039;isn&#039;t due&#039;&#039; to imperfect information, it&#039;s simply a mathematical fact.  This doesn&#039;t mean that our estimation of these orbits can&#039;t be very good - this is what astronomers are paid to do.  But there is always some mathematical error in these estimations.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So why am I blabbering on about the n-body problem?  Because large, inert bodies of mass (read, habitable planets) which can not correct their orbits continuously to maintain some exotic orbit will eventually destabilize due to the gravitational disturbances which are the natural result of the n-body problem.  Peter Ward is doubtful that even a single planet might form in the very restricted Goldilocks Zone about any particular star; but two,  &#039;&#039;three&#039;&#039;,  &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;twelve?&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;  Read up on the formation of our own large [[Wikipedia:Giant impact theory|moon]], which was apparently formed from a tremendous impact between our planet and another Mars-sized object which was occupying the same orbit for hundreds of millions of years, until they destabilized and collided.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Twelve Colonies are certainly situated in stable orbits about twelve &#039;&#039;separate&#039;&#039; stars, with no other significant bodies of mass within or anywhere near their orbit.  As to the arrangement of these stars, I&#039;ll leave that for another day.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:::&#039;&#039;I agree with Peter Farago, for once.&#039;&#039; oh, come on, we have one fight and suddenly we&#039;re worst enemies? I don&#039;t resent your work here, and I hope you don&#039;t resent mine. Good things come out of discussion. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:46, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Zodiac==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;However, the revelations presented in [[The Raid|The Raid]] make it clear that the [[Twelve_Colonies|Twelve Colonies]] are not located in a single star system; in fact, each individual colony is situated in a separate [[Wikipedia:Zodiac|Zodiacal]] constellation, as viewed from Earth.  This would place the [[#Twelve_Colonies|Colonies]] many [[Wikipedia:Light-year|light-years]] apart.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;A more realistic explanation of the importance of Cyrannus in the mythology of the [[Battlestar Galactica %28RDM%29|reimagined series]] may be that it was the original destination of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies|Twelve Tribes]], perhaps a single star system predesignated as the future home of humanity.  Presumably, some later event prevented the Tribes from reaching Cyrannus, causing the subsequent diaspora.  However the issue of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies|early history]] of the Colonies is still under debate and considerably murky (see the [[Sacred_Scrolls#The_.22Three_Exodi.22_Interpretation|Three Exodi Interpretation]] of the Sacred Scrolls).&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is completely innacurate. The thirteenth tribe identified star patterns and matched them to the symbols of the twelve colonies; the colonies were not located in the constellations themselves. Otherwise earth would be directly in the center of them, its location not remotely mysterious, and it would actually take longer to travel from one colony to another than from one colony to earth. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A further strike against this edit is that the Colonies had many sub-light ships as shown in the mini-series. They had sufficient speed to gather with Roslin&#039;s rescue fleet over the few hours as Boomer (in an FTL-capable Raptor) or other ships located them, suggesting the distances (and number of ships) were small. For the Colonies to be as separated as suggested in that edit would make sub-light travel impossible since each colony would be too distant. Such travel would take months or years, instead of days or a couple of weeks. This is also presuming that only the space surrounding Caprica was searched, but space is BIG and time would still be a factor in a sub-light ship. Based on an earlier script of the mini-series, RDM considered the idea of making a single planet, Kobol, the home for all Colonies that would behave more as sovereign states like the U.S. When that idea didn&#039;t fit into the plan, RDM decided to go back to the TOS concept of separate planets in a single system. This is highly improbable to have so many inhabitable planets in such a fashion, astronomically, but it was one detail that the writers (and viewers) had to take as given (not that they would be much left of the Colonies to argue about this, anyway). [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:14, 5 October 2005 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Merged Content and Other Changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I merged the two relatively identical articles for Cyrannus into a single article and deleted unfounded speculation on its use in the RDM continuity as there is NO aired or deleted scene content I have found that uses the name to describe the solar system in the RDM continuity. The term has been used in the 2003 Video Game and the Original Series (albeit confusingly). Double redirects have been corrected. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:53, 19 January 2006 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Factuality of &amp;quot;New&amp;quot; Planet Definitions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A recent edit from Troyian has added the recent adjustments in planetary definitions that, I think, might have been defined or under consideration by the IAU. Despite this data, the world of BSG is &#039;&#039;&#039;NOT&#039;&#039;&#039; necessarily the Milky Way we exist in. Contributors normally draw comparisons and contrasts to our actual galaxy as well as the fictional universe of Galactica. While the scientist&#039;s definitions may be relevant to our galaxy, they may not work well here for one sourced reason: At the miniseries conclusion, [[Elosha]] tells the assembly that the Lords of Kobol led the Twelve Tribes to the &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;12 worlds&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; that would form the Colonies. Not &amp;quot;planetoids,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;minor planets,&amp;quot; or other stuff. While it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; probable that not all of them are 100% Earthlike, all must be sufficiently habitable and resource-rich, and around 1 to 1.5 G. Otherwise, the colonial wars noted in back-history before the [[Articles of Colonization]] would make little sense, nor would many other socialogical and technical notes. For the most part, it seemed that these wars may have been stalemated or easily overmatched. The scientist&#039;s notes just don&#039;t fit with BSGs mentality or the peoples shown, who apparently don&#039;t have to adjust dramatically to major changes in climate (based on what we have seen). Comments? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:59, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Adding 3 new planets to the current 9:  Ceres, Charon, and Xena, to make 12 is irrelevant.  While the debate over &amp;quot;well were these &amp;quot;planets&amp;quot; Earth-like or some other definition of a &amp;quot;planet&amp;quot;?&amp;quot; is affected, it&#039;s not like &amp;quot;wow, there&#039;s 12 planets in the solar system now, maybe we&#039;re the 12 Colonies&amp;quot;:  You can&#039;t physically stand on Jupiter or Saturn or another gas giant.  Ganymede, Europa, and Titan are far more like &amp;quot;Planets&amp;quot; in that respect, in which case there would easily be more.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:41, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The latest update is that we may be down to eight planets. The IAU meeting has been very interesting. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:14, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Citations ==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve added several {{tl|citation needed}} entries to the article. I just wanted to comment that [[Wikipedia:Alpha Centauri]] is similarly adorned, and [[Wikipedia:Beta Centauri]] contradicts the distance given here. As such, I would like to emphasize that, per [[BW:CJ]], Wikipedia &#039;&#039;per se&#039;&#039; is not a valid source. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:55, 4 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Cite link to press release re: the formation &amp;amp; size limit for moons of gas giants is now added. Should have added that right off the bat, but the link I had wasn&#039;t working. I&#039;ve added a different link that does work, although it&#039;s not the one that was originally on the SWRT site. Don&#039;t know where that one went to&lt;br /&gt;
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2) In some cases, Wikipedia entries *are* valid sources. In this case, the entries for the Centauri stars matches what&#039;s being taught in the schools these days, and some of the contributors are professional and amateur astronomers with valid reputations. &lt;br /&gt;
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3) WRT the B Centauri distance &amp;quot;discrepancy&amp;quot;, add ~5 LY to the figure I posted in the entry here, and remember that the A Centauri pair and B Centauri are on a near LOS between B Cenauri and Sol, and that the pair is ~5 LY away from Sol. Simple math.&lt;br /&gt;
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...Not that I really want to get into an argument over this, but sorry kids, but I don&#039;t subscribe to the &amp;quot;If it&#039;s on Wikipedia, it&#039;s automatically a big fat lie&amp;quot; dogma. If that were true, everything on *this* Wiki would be a &amp;quot;big fat lie&amp;quot; as well. As it is, you&#039;ve let this bias and distrust overwhelm your need for cites. At the rate you&#039;re going, you&#039;ll be asking for a cite for every single letter and punctuation mark used :-P&lt;br /&gt;
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I mean, seriously - Proxima&#039;s been known to be a Red Dwarf since even *I* was born. Asking for a cite for that is like asking for a cite that we have a Moon in the sky, and water is wet...&lt;br /&gt;
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...I&#039;ve added cites to this section, although I&#039;m convinced that some of these cite demands were a bit of overkill. Some cite demands were removed as previous cites rendered those redundant. One or two cite demands were not rational, IMHO, and were removed.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(1) That is excellent.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(2) Wikipedia is valid where it cites sources, per [[BW:CJ]], but not where it is coated in citation requests. As far as I recall, I didn&#039;t even help make that policy. I find the whole &amp;quot;sorry kids&amp;quot; thing mildly offensive, and I think you are intentionally confusing &amp;quot;On Wikipedia does not imply true.&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;On Wikipedia implies false.&amp;quot; to provide a straw man.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(3) Adding 5 randomly is not something I would consider &amp;quot;[s]imple math.&amp;quot; For that matter, adding another 5 to account for A Centauri doesn&#039;t make sense, as it reads &#039;Beta Centauri, although visibly &amp;quot;closer&amp;quot; to Alpha A and B, is actually some 520 light years distant&#039; not &#039;520 light years more distant.&#039; For that matter, Wikipedia says both &amp;quot;approximately 525&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;530±50.&amp;quot; Forgive me, but that error bound seems excessively large to even bother specifying a second significant digit, much less a third.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(Un-numbered comments on the citation requests being excessive) I didn&#039;t know off-hand that Proxima is a Red Dwarf. As I am reasonably well-educated, I generally consider anything I don&#039;t know not to be general knowledge. If it is not general knowledge, it needs a citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I do now see that the citation requests on &amp;quot;...astronomers are now divided...&amp;quot; was redundant with requesting cites on both divisions. I also think that the &amp;quot;...Yavin...&amp;quot; sentence was more irrelevant than in need of citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would note that I am delighted you took the time to completely source your large and clearly well-informed contribution. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:23, 4 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Yippee.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) I honestly don&#039;t see a difference between the two. Granted, Wikipedia&#039;s gotten a lot of flack lately because of one corrupt politician having his entry updated to put a more positive spin on his abyssmal career - why Ted Kennedy hasn&#039;t done this yet escapes me - but as a result now every single article is suspect even if it has cites on it. CIP: one particular Wiki entry I referred to on another forum two years ago was viciously torn to shreds by two enthusiasts of the subject, claiming that all the cites were invalid because they linked to sites - gah, that sounds phonetically redundant - that were built and maintained by web authors who weren&#039;t &amp;quot;paid professionals&amp;quot; and/or &amp;quot;people who actually knew the guy&amp;quot;. When pointed out that two of those used as cites were *relatives* of the person in question, those same two dips attempted to invalidate those cites on the grounds that the relations had a &amp;quot;falling out&amp;quot;. I don&#039;t have time to play &amp;quot;Argument Clinic&amp;quot;, which is why I&#039;ve adopted the policy to treat Wikipedia as I&#039;d treat Brittanica or World Book; as long as it passes Occam&#039;s Razor and at least sounds plausible, then I&#039;ll use it as a cite until I see concrete proof that it&#039;s wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) Tell you what, since you&#039;re the one dealing with semantics, I&#039;ll let you tweak that one as you see fit. The distance from Sol to B Centauri is ~525 LY according to aol sources I&#039;ve found on the web save one, and that one entry was that one Wiki cite that has the +/-50 LY. I&#039;ll go with the majority here, and if you subtract ~5 LY from 525, you get 520. Again, I&#039;ll let you tweak the wording here as you see fit, and we&#039;ll go from there. Be advised that I&#039;m not really interested in getting into a big war on this. Just keep the results accurate and it should work out.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) I honestly learned that Proxima is a Red Dwarf in the 3rd grade, which was ~1970. My middle brother is a science teacher, and he verified this evening that his current series of authorized lecture notes - compiled from various textbooks - contains mention of the Centauri &amp;quot;trinary&amp;quot;, and while still claiming that the system is a graviometrically linked trinary, they note specifically that Proxima is, you guessed it, a Red Dwarf.&lt;br /&gt;
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To make matters more against your favor, I&#039;ve personally called three strippers I know, and they not only knew that Proxima was a Red Dwarf, but so did their worthless boyfriends. And yea, one of them is an amateur astronomer who&#039;s more in love with his Celestron, but that&#039;s a different story altogether...:-P&lt;br /&gt;
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5) I didn&#039;t see the &amp;quot;Yavin&amp;quot; mention as being irrelevant at all. The argument presented earlier in the entry called for habitable planets around gas giants. The most notable one seen on film has been, of course, Yavin IV. Unless the Yavin gas giant is about 6-7 times Jupiter mass, according to this theory Yavin IV can&#039;t be as habitable as we&#039;re led to believe in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
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...In any case, this might be a lesson to you &amp;quot;Jihadists&amp;quot; that it&#039;s possible to be overzealous in your quest for accuracy. ISTR an old fable about a sculptor who kept chisling away at a piece of rare, expensive marble, looking for the true image hidden within, but because he didn&#039;t like any of the images he found, kept chisling until there wasn&#039;t anything left of his expensive marble.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(2) If you want Wikipedia considered a valid source here, then bring it up on BW:CJ&#039;s talk page. I don&#039;t even know immediately how I would weigh in on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(3) I suppose 525 is correct, then.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(4) I&#039;m sure that at several points I knew that particular tidbit. My three most conveniently located collegiate friends didn&#039;t know it, but our anecdotal evidence is not particularly germane; it&#039;s just not something everyone immediately knows. Very many people know what a [[Wikipedia:FN P90|P90]] looks like, but information about it is still linked from [[KEW]]. That way, others can readily personally verify the episode citation visually.&lt;br /&gt;
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:(5) I don&#039;t see how mention of something similar in a different fictional universe is relevant to this particular article. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:02, 4 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, ~525 is more accurate, and from what I&#039;ve been able to gather due to the narrow parallax involved thanks to both Centauri systems being so visibly &amp;quot;adjacent&amp;quot;, adding a +/-5 between &amp;quot;525&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;LY&amp;quot; could give the figure a little fudge room. If my sources at JPL are correct, when the Webb platform goes up in a few years, it should be able to get a bit more accuracy on this figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Serjestions==&lt;br /&gt;
what if some of the colones are moons? I&#039;ll do a text map m=moon p=planet mp=mier planet.&lt;br /&gt;
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It Did&#039;nt work righ if you can fix it go ahead&lt;br /&gt;
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Or some ting like that.[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Archive of old discussions prior to [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;amp;oldid=49569 April 26th 2006]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Archive of old discussions prior to [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;amp;oldid=54973 May 25th 2006]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Archive of old discussions prior to [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;amp;oldid=71715 August 17th 2006]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Edit/toolbar buttons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When you get the chance, could you email the buttons to me. joebeaudoin@joebeaudoin.net. Thanks. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:08, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:40, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Buttons up. You may need to do a hard refresh to see them on the edit page, however. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:21, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== By the way... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions# &amp;quot;Original Series&amp;quot; vs. &amp;quot;original series&amp;quot;|Per Shane]], we need an image for the future {{tl|duncehat}} template. :-) Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:21, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Main Page&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I got the CSS and the new section all coded. All you need to do is copy the new code to the main page and it should work :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:22, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== External Images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Will be enabled on the next upload of the settings. I just set the setting so it should work once more. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:55, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Things to do...==&lt;br /&gt;
Ok, because ive been on vacation for a few days, ivre come back and a lots changed. If someone, Shane/Joe, could write here exactly what needs doing from me in some kind of a list that would be great. Ive also noticed a few bugs which id like to discuss too.&lt;br /&gt;
* image for the {{tl|duncehat}} template&lt;br /&gt;
* smaller icons for the left hand navigation&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[:md:Battlestar_Wiki_Media:Site_images#Images_Needed]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The little &amp;quot;user&amp;quot; icon next to your name.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ping... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pong! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:13, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Richard Dawkins takes on a jerk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey man.  You must be a bit stressed with all this style updating and reformatting, so I thought I could help you relax.  Check [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmNjfpoRZpE&amp;amp;NR this out].  Here we have Richard Dawkins take on an evangelical &amp;quot;Christian&amp;quot; who turns into a jerk really fast.  I think Dawkins won the argument too, though it&#039;s rather grey.  Now, I have to agree with you.  Richard Dawkins is the MAN when it comes to science, and I&#039;m glad you idolized him.  I respect him quite a bit myself, and I appreciate his scientific commentary.  Happy viewing! --[[User:Homeworld|Homeworld]] 15:31, 26 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thats a clip taken from a TV program he did called [[Wikipedia:The Root of All Evil?|The Root of All Evil?]] ^_^ Its not been repeated in  the UK as far as I know but you could probably download it from somewhere, it was a great program. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:48, 26 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;m interested to see the full program.  That 6-minute clip piqued my interest.  That site I got it from has bits and pieces from the show, and maybe the whole thing.  I already watched another clip called &amp;quot;Teapot Atheists.&amp;quot;  Striking commentary.  Dawkins says that everyone is an atheist since many no longer believe in the gods of Egypt or Rome or Sumer. By the way, I decided to read about James Randi (I already know about Gervais and Sagan).  I must say, I respect anyone who can reveal that a &amp;quot;faith-healer&amp;quot; is a sham.  I have no patience for people who sell their faith like that Popville guy did.  Has the world no shame?  I recently added an &amp;quot;Idols&amp;quot; section to my own userpage along with some video clips of them.  Thanks for being the inspiration for that! ^_^ --[[User:Homeworld|Homeworld]] 16:09, 26 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cause you told me.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;BIG&amp;gt;HAPPY BIRTHDAY MERCIFULL!&amp;lt;/BIG&amp;gt; --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:24, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks :) --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:07, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do&#039;h ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hah. My bad. :-P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:35, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Whats your bad? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:39, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::quote. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:20, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh right ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:02, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Server thing? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any word from the person you were in contact with regarding webhosting? Last Shane told me was that the person was on vacation, but should have returned by now, and I think you e-mailed him again, correct? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:55, 11 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Customising MediaWiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is it done?!? This is the only Wiki(that i&#039;v seen) with compleetly diferent colors and styell can some one tell me how it is don(you can put it on my talk page)?JosephK19 01:50, 30 September 2006 (CDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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This wiki still has a theme in the usual wiki colours but a new desiend was created by some members of this wiki to give it a unique look and feel. The MediaWiki site has some great tips on how to do all this. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 05:19, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 07:23, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;diff=80883</id>
		<title>User talk:Mercifull</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;diff=80883"/>
		<updated>2006-09-30T12:22:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;JosephK19: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Archive of old discussions prior to [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;amp;oldid=49569 April 26th 2006]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Archive of old discussions prior to [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;amp;oldid=54973 May 25th 2006]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Archive of old discussions prior to [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercifull&amp;amp;oldid=71715 August 17th 2006]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Edit/toolbar buttons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When you get the chance, could you email the buttons to me. joebeaudoin@joebeaudoin.net. Thanks. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:08, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:40, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Buttons up. You may need to do a hard refresh to see them on the edit page, however. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:21, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== By the way... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions# &amp;quot;Original Series&amp;quot; vs. &amp;quot;original series&amp;quot;|Per Shane]], we need an image for the future {{tl|duncehat}} template. :-) Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:21, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Main Page&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I got the CSS and the new section all coded. All you need to do is copy the new code to the main page and it should work :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:22, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== External Images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Will be enabled on the next upload of the settings. I just set the setting so it should work once more. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:55, 21 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Things to do...==&lt;br /&gt;
Ok, because ive been on vacation for a few days, ivre come back and a lots changed. If someone, Shane/Joe, could write here exactly what needs doing from me in some kind of a list that would be great. Ive also noticed a few bugs which id like to discuss too.&lt;br /&gt;
* image for the {{tl|duncehat}} template&lt;br /&gt;
* smaller icons for the left hand navigation&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;edit icons&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:md:Battlestar_Wiki_Media:Site_images#Images_Needed]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The little &amp;quot;user&amp;quot; icon next to your name.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ping... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pong! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:13, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Richard Dawkins takes on a jerk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey man.  You must be a bit stressed with all this style updating and reformatting, so I thought I could help you relax.  Check [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmNjfpoRZpE&amp;amp;NR this out].  Here we have Richard Dawkins take on an evangelical &amp;quot;Christian&amp;quot; who turns into a jerk really fast.  I think Dawkins won the argument too, though it&#039;s rather grey.  Now, I have to agree with you.  Richard Dawkins is the MAN when it comes to science, and I&#039;m glad you idolized him.  I respect him quite a bit myself, and I appreciate his scientific commentary.  Happy viewing! --[[User:Homeworld|Homeworld]] 15:31, 26 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thats a clip taken from a TV program he did called [[Wikipedia:The Root of All Evil?|The Root of All Evil?]] ^_^ Its not been repeated in  the UK as far as I know but you could probably download it from somewhere, it was a great program. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:48, 26 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;m interested to see the full program.  That 6-minute clip piqued my interest.  That site I got it from has bits and pieces from the show, and maybe the whole thing.  I already watched another clip called &amp;quot;Teapot Atheists.&amp;quot;  Striking commentary.  Dawkins says that everyone is an atheist since many no longer believe in the gods of Egypt or Rome or Sumer. By the way, I decided to read about James Randi (I already know about Gervais and Sagan).  I must say, I respect anyone who can reveal that a &amp;quot;faith-healer&amp;quot; is a sham.  I have no patience for people who sell their faith like that Popville guy did.  Has the world no shame?  I recently added an &amp;quot;Idols&amp;quot; section to my own userpage along with some video clips of them.  Thanks for being the inspiration for that! ^_^ --[[User:Homeworld|Homeworld]] 16:09, 26 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cause you told me.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;BIG&amp;gt;HAPPY BIRTHDAY MERCIFULL!&amp;lt;/BIG&amp;gt; --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:24, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks :) --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:07, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do&#039;h ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hah. My bad. :-P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:35, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Whats your bad? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:39, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::quote. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:20, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh right ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:02, 3 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Server thing? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any word from the person you were in contact with regarding webhosting? Last Shane told me was that the person was on vacation, but should have returned by now, and I think you e-mailed him again, correct? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:55, 11 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Customising MediaWiki&lt;br /&gt;
How is it done?!? This is the only Wiki(that i&#039;v seen) with compleetly diferent colors and styell can some one tell me how it is don(you can put it on my talk page)?JosephK19 01:50, 30 September 2006 (CDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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This wiki still has a theme in the usual wiki colours but a new desiend was created by some members of this wiki to give it a unique look and feel. The MediaWiki site has some great tips on how to do all this. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 05:19, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:JosephK19&amp;diff=80875</id>
		<title>User:JosephK19</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:JosephK19&amp;diff=80875"/>
		<updated>2006-09-30T06:50:46Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;go on the talk page plz&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/Archive6&amp;diff=80874</id>
		<title>Talk:Main Page/Archive6</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/Archive6&amp;diff=80874"/>
		<updated>2006-09-30T06:50:01Z</updated>

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== Battlestar Wiki &amp;quot;referenced&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
A &amp;quot;little bird&amp;quot; tipped me of to a [http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=doomsday_not_as_much_fun_as_you_d_think&amp;amp;more=1&amp;amp;c=1&amp;amp;tb=1&amp;amp;pb=1 Scientific American blog entry] that referenced Battlestar Wiki. It&#039;s kind of dangerous doing a direct link to wiki-content like that, but it&#039;s neat that we&#039;re being linked to. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:57, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For those curious, [[User:Gmusser]] is the author of the blog entry. (This can be deduced from the link and the author&#039;s name.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:28, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Question: Should we be annoyed that someone used BattlestarWiki material in their magazine like that, or does it not matter because they&#039;re things he contributed to, or what?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:35, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It doesn&#039;t strike me as a bad thing. Of course, I didn&#039;t check to see if the very similar wording was originally contributed by him; I&#039;d imagine it was, so it&#039;d be all positive. To work in a nitpick, so far as I can tell, it&#039;s not in the magazine, just online in their blog. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:41, 8 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External images not working amnymore==&lt;br /&gt;
See my user page. All external images are no just showing as links --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:54, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That sounds like it&#039;s probably a Mediawiki setting that can be toggled. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:02, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, it happened to me, as well; I tend to assume the same thing about the cause. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:13, 7 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ive also noticed some odd things like the &amp;lt;nowki&amp;gt; tags and stuff arnt working properly, take a look at the box on the edit page where you can click the special characters and also the summaries on the recent edits. Has the wiki software been updated in the last few days to maybe have caused these little glitches? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:40, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I attempted to invoke {{tl|tl}} once or twice in edit summaries if that&#039;s what you mean, but I was forgetting that templates are not supposed to work in edit summaries. (It would do unfortunate things to upload summaries, for one thing.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:29, 10 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No this is something thats happened very recently. Edit this page and look at the bottom of the page. The code to add to your edits now is wrapped with &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; when it shoudl&#039;nt parse that only the actual code in between. Its hard to explain but i think its related to the images not showing up Something has changed in the last week to make this all happen. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:56, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I&#039;ll look into this... it&#039;s probably a setting issue since I upgraded the Wiki software to MediaWiki 1.7.1. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:55, 11 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Something else ive noticed. When you search for an article that has no page yet. Eg http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Wooyay it automaticly takes you to the edit page http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Wooyay&amp;amp;action=edit --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:30, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Actually, that was a change I made... I was trying to see something. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:31, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I should have mentioned this but I noticed that if I hit ENTER key intead of clicking SEARCH, it gives the same behavior that Mercifull reports. (Maybe I shouldn&#039;t do that??).--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:05, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== QotD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The quote is in need of an update. Would anybody be willing to do the honors? --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 16:33, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Often I have to do a Crtl-F5 in IE on one of my computers to get it to refresh the QotD. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:15, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Depends on where you live also. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:18, 13 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== First person... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To get http://media.battlestarwiki.org/ active on their computer gets a [[Wikipedia:Cookie|cookie]]. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:36, 14 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I win. Got it working 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m sorry, but I stole your cookie. Now I need some milk... :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:33, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Season 3 Teaser  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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During the SG-1 200th episode. Did someone capture this?! There was some shots that were not in the ... well original one. :-D --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:23, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will DVR the 1:00AM repeat. Thanks for the heads ups. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:30, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::it&#039;s a SciFi and Monk night. :-) (almost got the subdomains working with joe cept I have to do some reading so rewriting rules) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is the special. Not the episode it self, but I would get the show also. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For some unexplicable reason, I didn&#039;t check the guide, like I always do on friday, when I got home or I would have been watching it (the special).  I always DVR the &#039;Gates. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Did a quick writeup for the one on SG1-200 [[User:Gougef/Season 3 Teaser#Teaser From SG1-200 | here]].--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I Tivo&#039;ed it on the first wave, some shots of Gatea, more Tigh (He&#039;s the &amp;quot;narrator&amp;quot;) a great shot of Boomer (After entering the prison), Six. It was great, I haven&#039;t watched it again since I recorded it, but I will in a while (obviousley). --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 21:48, 18 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this it? http://www.lucylawless.info/battlestar-galactica/episodetrailers.html --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 19:12, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is the Eureka teaser, which some of shots are in the this new one. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:34, 19 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They air different trailers for different shows? --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 12:12, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I may have missed it, but I don&#039;t think they have aired the same exact teaser twice? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 13:17, 27 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Media&amp;quot; Uploading ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now active. You can head over the the [http://media.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/ Media Wiki], sign up (with your same name), and start uploading. You won&#039;t be able to link the images to any articles pages just yet, but you can tag the image and upload them correctly for now. :) Enjoy! :) (Anyone have any ideas for a Main Page design?) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:21, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I was thinking of a smaller version of the Main Page design we have now. That would be fine by me. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:02, 20 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Technical ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Typo under Sister Projects. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would have fixed it but I (being DUH!) couldn&#039;t figure out how to get to the page. When I click on the icon button beside &amp;quot;Sister&amp;quot; it stays on the home page. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:25, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::doh. my fault. I&#039;ll change it in the [[BW:MAIN]] project so it won&#039;t happen again :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fix is up on main page. Battlestar Wiki: 1 Confusing Navigation: 0. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:10, 22 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Search Box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Merc and others have been suggestion to me that we move the search box after the &amp;quot;navigation&amp;quot; box. Just wanted to get some option before I made such a move. Let me know. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:18, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d lean towards &amp;quot;movin&#039; on up&amp;quot;. It&#039;s on my screen at 1280x1024, but I can imagine it&#039;d easily fall off smaller resolutions, and it&#039;s pretty useful for getting around (especially once you&#039;re used to shortcuts, etc.) I&#039;m really enjoying the bsgMonoBook, by the way! I&#039;m less enthused about the color scheme than I am the fact that we&#039;ve got a choice now. If you don&#039;t like it, you can always run your own skin (now). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:22, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Support as per discussion on gtalk. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:03, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Good idea. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:00, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yeah, move it up, please. Just had the same idea. --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 16:26, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::k. It will likly happen later tonight when go gets to do a nother update of the files. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:27, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:42, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles: Font style in edit box ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m used to the fixed-width typeface in the editing box. Is this a new characteristic of the three skin options? I like the CSS for the most part, but it would be better to see text with a fixed width option more characteristic of wikis. Also, the Preview header text &amp;quot;This is only a preview; changes have not yet been saved!&amp;quot; shown in a article edit mode with the default BSG skin is so dark in my Firefox browser as to be unreadable.  --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:37, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Characterostic - Yes. I can change to what font. I am starting to hate the font in here myself because I can&#039;t see the wiki code very well. So give me a font and I will change it. Preview text - Sending to Joe for an upload. Minor mistake on my part. Anything else? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:47, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Will be back to the font that it was before on next update. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:34, 23 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Done. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:43, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Airdates==&lt;br /&gt;
Holy cow! Being informative is good, but the Airdates section is continuing to grow unchecked. Any suggestions as to how we could slim down the look on the mainpage, but still have it be easy to access for people to find their respective airdates? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:00, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I know this might sound biased, but one idea is to just list the US, Canada and UK airdates on the main page, then list all the other country airdates on a subpage in a fashion similar to what we do with the Main Page news. Since most of our audience is going to be from those countries anyway, we may as well focus on them.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:52, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too was wary of bias. However, realistically we can&#039;t fit everybody&#039;s airdates on the main page. I&#039;d like to have that info here, but it&#039;s not our primary mission (we&#039;re not tvguide.com). I concur that we should select a cutoff for main page airdates and then store the rest on a separate page. Maybe a one-link depth (clicking the &amp;quot;airdates&amp;quot; icon would take you to the &amp;quot;All airdates&amp;quot; article, of which the &amp;quot;US/UK/CAN&amp;quot; is just one of the child templates. This would require a change to the main page (pointing to the new US/UK/CAN template), the creation of the US/UK/CAN template, and a massive redesign of Mainpage/airdates to accomodate the new &amp;quot;global airdate&amp;quot; scheme (as well as including a display/edit of the US/UK/CAN template). That&#039;d be my best guess. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:03, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::{{support}} Before it was a problem having no airdates. Now we have a ton. [[BW:TV]]? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:41, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It might be late for my suggestions, but I was waiting for an official information. Here:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;1-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;It&#039;s now official, Space Channel will be following the SciFi broadcasts. But it will be airing the day after, the saturday. So the Canadian airdate is almost the same as the US, it&#039;ll be kind of redundant, right? So my suggestion is to merge US and CAN, and have a side note that explain that CAN is the day after, the saturday.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or 2-&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;My second suggestion is to have, on the main page, a quick list of the &#039;&#039;&#039;next new&#039;&#039;&#039; episode for each contry. Something like:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::::&#039;&#039;&#039;US&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Fri. October 6th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;CAN&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Precipice&#039;&#039; - Sat. October 7th&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;UK&#039;&#039;&#039; » &#039;&#039;Occupation&#039;&#039; - October...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;&#039;AUS&#039;&#039;&#039; » ...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::&#039;&#039;etc.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We can also use the flag of the country! The idea of the list came because I&#039;m not sure about the airdates of the reruns and the marathons needs to be on the main page and I think everyone can wish to come here just to have a quick look to know when the next episode is. But, with that, we create a second page with a section for each country for all the reruns airdates, the last week episode, the next two or tree weeks episodes... In other words, a TvGuide page. Some people might be interested in that kind of information, and since it won&#039;t be on the main page, I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a problem to have a TvGuide.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Or&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;We keep it that way, it&#039;s good enough :) --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 13:13, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well... we already have the next and previous episode up at the top, but the airdates give the time and channel. {{flag|US}} is not working :( But to understand you correcty....&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Main page - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Other airdates - Times of next episodes only.&lt;br /&gt;
::::(New Page) TV Reruns - Times of next reruns for the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I would still suggest we keep the same lanauges and not do this witht he german dates as they have their own wiki. But US, UK, CAN, and AU I see no problem with. I would have to get some more flags imported :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Why the US flag doesn&#039;t work?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I agree to keep &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; airdates on the &#039;&#039;english&#039;&#039; main page (and german date with german wiki...). The idea with the list on the main page, is to have at most 2 lines per country (well maybe 3). And just have the next new episode &#039;&#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039;&#039;. Ex: The next new on SciFi is on October 6th. &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The new page is for all the others airdates. Like Space Channel will, if I remember well, air once again TOS. So we need a kind of TvGuide. Re-air TOS or all the reruns or marathons, is kind of the same thing: an encore presentation. So the new page is for that, all the dates including the previous episode&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;So, MP is short and quick with every country watching in english (with the flags or not).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;And New Page is long and detailed for every country (not for the one who has their wiki, like german).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I hope this is clear. --[[User:Karoshi|Karōshi]] 16:00, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::US flag is having SVG problems. Still trying to figure that one out. I think this is a soild idea. Would clean up the &amp;quot;text&amp;quot; a bit. I&#039;ll post any example here on the possiable look. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:06, 31 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Technical research and development wiki&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Under &amp;quot;sister projects&amp;quot;: I&#039;m a little behind, sorry I&#039;m out of the loop; what is that/how does it work?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:29, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: It&#039;s merely the Hangar Bay, which is currently down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:30, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was about to post that :) Currently offiline. Getting to it in a little bit. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 25 August 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Images - Not many... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While I am on the subject (http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/0000esw7) has tons of images that can be uploaded with the {{tl|promo}} tag over at the media wiki. Should we just import them all and label them for use, or just upload when needed? I can say for sure we can upload some from &amp;quot;Scar&amp;quot; because the [[Scar]] guide is void of pictures. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2,000,000 Page Views!? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn&#039;t we just pass the &#039;&#039;1,000,000&#039;&#039; page views milestone earlier this summer? Have we had a million page views this summer alone?!&lt;br /&gt;
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I better buy several more [[Mop Boy|mops]]. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Congrats to us! Yay! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The [[Mop Boy|one]] i&#039;m using atm is getting very worn but Joe refuses to pay for a new one :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:32, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks for the [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support/Proposals|idea]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:50, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Didn&#039;t you get the memo? :-P -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:18, 6 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is it done?!? This is the only Wiki(that i&#039;v seen) with compleetly diferent colors and styell can some one tell me how it is don(you can put it on my talk page)?[[User:JosephK19|JosephK19]] 01:50, 30 September 2006 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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