Talk:The Son Also Rises/Archive 1

2007-03-12T20:19:30Z

Jo5iah: /* Social decent is not the same as terrorism */

== Ick..Not a "Trial" Cliffhanger?! ==

I was hoping for a little action cliffhanger, a'la ''Star Trek: Next Generation'''s "Best of Both Worlds, Part I." But I suspect we're getting "The Trial of Gaius Baltar." The title of this ep suggests that this is a Lee Adama story, but the curious Q&A with Katee Sackhoff a few weeks ago might indicate something else...I just don't know. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:39, 20 December 2006 (CST)
:Spence, what interview are you referring to and what did Katee say that makes you so curious?--[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 08:15, 20 December 2006 (CST)
::See if you can glean something about Sackhoff and episode 16 [http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=starbase here]. I was at this SF convention, where she noted her filming ended with episode 16 for the season, I believe. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:57, 20 December 2006 (CST)

==Promo Pics==

Are up [http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/000a8e4s here]. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:25, 10 February 2007 (CST)

:I'm more curious of the updated Maelstrom pics. There's one where Starbuck is with someone who appears to be a sister or an oracle. Uh-oh. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:23, 10 February 2007 (CST)

:: The info with the photo says it is an oracle: Georgia Craig as Oracle Brenn. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:20, 10 February 2007 (CST)

Holy Frak! It's [http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000yhy12/g288 Agent Smith]! --[[User:Webbie|Webbie]] 21:38, 12 February 2007 (CST)

:He reminds me of David Hewlett, Elton John and the Blues Brothers, although he does look a lot like Agent Smith from the neck up. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 22:10, 12 February 2007 (CST)

== Episode Description ==

Since I can't edit the page, here is the episode descrip for The Son Also Rises from Tvguide.com

"Lee is ordered to protect Baltar's lawyer, Romo Lampkin (Mark Sheppard), after Baltar's first lawyer dies in what is suspected to be an act of sabotage; bombings cause the crew to examine theories about the culprits." {{unsigned|LOSDucard}}

== Predictions? ==

The ol' [[DRADIS|crystal ball]]'s coming in pretty fuzzy this week, everybody. Shame, too. I got such good reception last week. Anyway, here we go!
*The Adamas mourn Starbuck. This is going to be a recurring theme for the rest of the season. Not that the season has long to go.
*Anders is seen at Kara's memorial, likely for the last time this season.
*Lee and Dee are having problems again. Lt. Anastasia Adama is jealous of the depth of Lee's feelings for Kara, but she also empathizes for her husband's pain. She's conflicted by these emotions, but ultimately decides to support him.
*We learn that Lee has been studying his grandfather's law books in what little free time he has.
*I have a feeling we'll be seeing a little of Caprica Six this episode, but she, Phantom Six, and Athena are likely the only Cylons (or Cylon-appearing angels) we see this episode. I honestly doubt we'll see the Cylons again until the end of the finale. Like I said in earlier predictions, I think that boxing the Threes had a major effect on the Cylon in general and it's taking them time to adjust.
*Hot Dog gets promoted to Viper training officer. Like [[User:Talos|Talos]] said, he's the best of what's left.
*We see Baltar's lawyer for the first time: Galvatron!
That's all I've got for this week, folks. See you at ''The Crossroads!'' --[[User:Slander|Slander]] 15:08, 9 March 2007 (CST)
==Social dissent is not the same as terrorism==

I don't agree with this in the analysis portion of the page:

"Cally Tyrol correctly states that the Cylons wouldn't need to even fire one shot because they may find the Fleet had torn itself apart because of humanity's tendency towards self-destruction. However, it is also clear that she has not realized that she and the many workers are just as much apart of the problems when they essentially risked the existence of the Feet with their work strikes, the refusal of refining tylium , and disobedience toward military orders (Dirty Hands)."

As long as the strikes remained non violent killing someone's defense attorney and trying to kill others is not the same as striking for one's rights. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 12:20, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

Never said it was terrorism. I just took issue with Cally's little speech about how the fleet could tear itself apart because of Baltar and that the Cylons wouldn't even need to take a shot. It eventually led to her prejudice against Cylons, and in particular, Athena. I just thought it was pretty hypocritical of Cally because the events of Dirty Jobs highlighted something that Adama would never tolerate, military personnel taking part in a civil strike. For Adama, and his seriousness of having Cally be executed for treason, the strike, the lack of fuel, and disobeying direct orders are all up there.

Either case, could reword that section, but the main point I was trying to get across was the irony and the hypocrisy of listening to Cally talk about how the fleet is tearing itself apart when she and others have participated in it as well. --[[User:LifeStar|LifeStar]] 12:27, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

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