Talk:Weapons in the Re-imagined Series/Archive 1

2007-08-19T10:40:49Z

Imperator:

== Future of [[KEW]] article ==

With this new page, I wonder what should happen with the [[KEW]] article. I copied the "autocannon" section there and also wanted to copy the "point defense" section. But then the article would be useless and could be deleted (KEW could be redirect here).

Or should we only summarize those two sections and include a "See main article link" to there? --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:36, 10 January 2007 (CST)

:My first reaction is to make KEW redirect here. Is there any information there that isn't shown here or more specific articles? "KEW" is just too broad. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:00, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::As said, if I copy the "point defense" part as well, there is nothing there anymore. It also has a bit about the main guns, but with [[Battery]] that's redundant. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:05, 10 January 2007 (CST)

:::All the more reason to cease KEW. I feel centralization of all ship weapons but sidearms would be preferable. Your call. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:44, 10 January 2007 (CST)
::::Alright, I'll do that. What should I do with the talk page? Move it here? I can't use the normal move function since this page already exists, but I could copy-paste it. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:06, 10 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Normally we just let it go in cases like this unless there are very significant discussions that are critical to the article's existence. In this case, a summary that tells the result of the merge and why it occurred (which in turn is a summary of the consensus from the old talk pages) should be fine. No need to horde that stuff. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:29, 10 January 2007 (CST)

== Explosives and rocket launchers ==

Plastic explosives like [[G-4]] have been used on numerous occassions in different forms, ranging from larger blocks to small chunks used to open doors. And in "Exodus, Part I" we see the Marines taking out Centurions with an RPG (rocket propelled grenade).<br>
Do these fall under "small arms"? According to [[w:Small_arms|Wikipedia]] RPGs can fall under that term, but it doesn't seem like explosives do. Should we stick to that and create a seperate "explosives" section or add it as sub-section of "small arms". The latter is probably better, given the overall structure of the article (and after all they did keep it in the small arms locker).<br>
But the obvious solution would be calling it "Small arms and explosives". Duh :)

I'll wait with adding the normal rifles and pistols here though, until the [[Talk:small arms|controvery]] about the [[small arms]] article is solved. Alternatively, if it turns out that a seperate small arms article specifically for an in-universe POV is created, the RPG could be added to that. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:28, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::If I remember correctly, it's not an RPG in Exodus, but a light anti-tank missile. I need to get a pic of it before I can be sure though. AT missiles are considered crew-served weapons if they are larger than, say, an [[w:M72 LAW|M72 LAW]]. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:51, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::Maybe it falls more into the larger "shoulder launched weapons"/"anti tank guided missile" category, but RPGs ''are'' anti-tank weapons, although they are used against more lightly armored vehicles instead of MBTs these days. Originally the acronym comes from Russian and stands for "handheld anti-tank grenade-launcher". Picture is [[:Image:Colonial_RPG.jpg|here]] btw.
:::All in all, while it technically probably doesn't belong into "small arms", I guess it's better to stick it there for simpilicity and maybe make a note about that, instead of creating an own header for a weapon that has only been seen once so far. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:04, 11 January 2007 (CST)
::::Soviet RPGs are an unusual case because they are considered personel weapons in the old Soviet army, soldiers would carry ones as their weapon instead of a rifle. Some western RPGs are crew-served though. Just by memory, the rocket in Exodus looked like a SMAW, but I need a picture to identify it (hint to anyone with it from iTunes). --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:07, 11 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Maybe a "support weapon" section would work, this could also include any future machine guns and such we see. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 11:08, 11 January 2007 (CST)

== Cylon Raider's weapons ==
I know that everyone seems intent on the theory that the raider has two sets of KEW's of differing caliber but is not possible that one set is just merely a targeting asset, a sensor of some sort? I've never seen the Raider firing anything other than 'slug' rounds and only two lines of them at that. --[[User:Imperator|Imperator]] 11:40 19 August 2007 GMT

Battle of the Algae Planet

2007-01-21T17:23:30Z

Imperator:

{{Battle Data
| name= Battle of the Algae Planet
| image=Galactica nukes.jpg
| description= Cylons and Colonials converge on a planet containing the [[Eye of Jupiter]]
| conflict=[[Cylon Attack|Second Cylon War]]
| date= Unknown
| place=The [[Algae planet]]
| result=
| combatant1=Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet]]
| combatant2=[[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]
| co1=Admiral [[William Adama]]
| co2=[[Basestar command]]
| strength1=orbit:
''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', [[Vipers]], [[Raptors]]<br/>

surface:<br/>
1 Raptor,<br/>approx. 12 Marines,<br>Unknown number of drafted civilians
| strength2=orbit:
Four [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]], associated [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]], [[Heavy Raider]]s<br>

surface:<br/>
1 Heavy Raider, at least six [[Centurion]]s
| shiploss1= 1 Raptor heavily damaged/destroyed
| shiploss2=None
| casualties1=Unknown
| casualties2=Unknown
| prev=[[Battle of NCD2539]]
| next=Unknown
| rdm=y
}}

A discovery of a [[Eye of Jupiter|mysterious religious artifact]] leads to a temporary (as of yet) standoff between [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] and [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] forces.

Shortly after the [[Temple of Five]] is discovered during day 14 of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]]'s food-collection operations on the [[Algae planet]], four Cylon [[basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s jump into orbit. Admiral [[William Adama]] orders all civilian ships to [[jump]] to emergency jump coordinates as the Cylons discreetly deploy one [[Heavy Raider]] to the planet's surface.

After a [[wireless]] transmission from the basestars to ''Galactica'', [[Gaius Baltar]], a [[Number Three]], a [[Cavil]], and [[Boomer]] of the basestars' command group come to ''Galactica'' in order to negotiate for control of the [[Eye of Jupiter]], reported to be in the temple. The Cylons claim that if they gain possesion, they will leave the Fleet alone and turn over Baltar. Admiral Adama delivers an ultimatum: make any move and he'll destroy the temple with a nuclear strike. For the moment, no agreement is reached, and the Cylons and Baltar leave ''Galactica''.

The Cylons soon jam all Colonial wireless frequencies. On the surface, [[Lee Adama|Major Adama]] develops a plan to defend the temple and their base camp, placing [[Samuel Anders]] in command of all civilians present, and using [[Kara Thrace|Captain Thrace]]'s Raptor, the only one on the surface, for reconnaissance.

Meanwhile, Centurions from the first Heavy Raider have established a surface-to-air missile battery and shoot down Thrace during her recon.

Six Heavy Raiders are deployed from the basestars toward the planet as part of the Cylons' plan to both defend Baltar and D'anna who are heading to the temple and to test Adama's supposed bluff of nuking the place.

Admiral Adama prepares ''Galactica'''s missile launchers to fire six nuclear missiles at the surface (missile tubes 4 through 10), obliterating the temple, as he had promised during the failed negotiations; the Cylons debate whether Adama is bluffing ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

==Notes==
*''Galactica'' departs [[Ragnar Anchorage]] with five nuclear warheads. One warhead is cannibalized to create [[Gaius Baltar]]'s [[Cylon detector]] ([[Bastille Day]]) and ultimately detonated by [[Gina]] on ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]). A second warhead is used to destroy a Cylon [[basestar (RDM)|basestar]] above [[Kobol]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]", leaving ''Galactica'' with three. ''Galactica'' probably obtained additional warheads from ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' at some point prior to her destruction in "[[Exodus, Part II]]".

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