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Nothing but the rain

2009-04-04T16:36:10Z

Hadri:

Over the course of their friendship, ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s commander [[William Adama]] and [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilot [[Kara Thrace]] have a greeting they share on occasion. The question "What do you hear?", followed by "'''Nothing but the rain'''" appears to have originated with ''Galactica's'' [[Cylon War|wartime]] commander (presumably [[Nash (RDM)|Commander Nash]]), as Adama and [[Jaycie McGavin]] mock this greeting during one of their sexual encounters ([[Razor Flashbacks]], Episode 1).

Adama greets Thrace with the saying as she jogs through the battlestar's corridors in the hours prior to the [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar's]] scheduled [[Galactica Museum|decommissioning]] ([[Miniseries, Night 1]]).

Some hours later, while Starbuck zealously defends [[Lee Adama]]'s crippled Viper from a horde of [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]] at the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage|Ragnar Anchorage]], then-Commander Adama breaks Starbuck's fighting trance over [[wireless]] communications with their greeting to call her back to the battlestar, which has committed itself to an imminent [[FTL]] jump. The debris of destroyed Raiders makes raining noises as they impact Starbuck's Viper ([[Miniseries, Night 2]]).

Before making an unauthorized jump to Cylon-occupied Caprica in a [[You Can't Go Home Again|captured Raider]], Thrace tells Adama that she is "bringing home the cat" after he questions her actions ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

In a [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)|deleted scene]] for the same episode, Adama again asks Starbuck what she hears when she is jogging through ''Galactica'''s hallways.

Over two years later, a distracted Thrace walks past Admiral Adama and President [[Laura Roslin]], oblivious to their presence, when Adama uses their greeting once more to get Thrace's attention. Soon after that Thrace's Viper is lost and she is presumed dead ([[Maelstrom]]). After her mysterious return, Adama uses the greeting again when he temporarily leaves ''Galactica'' to search for the missing President Roslin ([[Sine Qua Non]]).

Adama and Thrace give the greeting for the last time when they say goodbye to each other in [[Daybreak Part II]].

== Usage ==

The greeting is generally consistent except for Thrace's last line, which is an acknowledgment ("Wilco" or "Aye-aye, sir!") that she tends to improvise.
{{WikiFrakr|What'd'ya hear?}}
:'''Adama:''' Starbuck, what do you hear?
:'''Starbuck:''' Nothing but the rain.
:'''Adama:''' Then grab your gun and bring in the cat.
:'''Starbuck:''' Boom, boom, boom!

== Notes ==
* According to a [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/07/ blog entry] by Ronald D. Moore, the exchange is an excerpt of a marching chant, which are common in militaries. He suggests that it has a deeper meaning for the characters, but he never wrote out the entire chant.

*"Nothing but the rain" is a Battlestar Wiki [[BW:TERM|descriptive term]].

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Nothing but the rain

2009-04-04T16:34:53Z

Hadri:

Over the course of their friendship, ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s commander [[William Adama]] and [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilot [[Kara Thrace]] have a greeting they share on occasion. The question "What do you hear?", followed by "'''Nothing but the rain'''" appears to have originated with ''Galactica's'' [[Cylon War|wartime]] commander (presumably [[Nash (RDM)|Commander Nash]]), as Adama and [[Jaycie McGavin]] mock this greeting during one of their sexual encounters ([[Razor Flashbacks]], Episode 1).

Adama greets Thrace with the saying as she jogs through the battlestar's corridors in the hours prior to the [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar's]] scheduled [[Galactica Museum|decommissioning]] ([[Miniseries, Night 1]]).

Some hours later, while Starbuck zealously defends [[Lee Adama]]'s crippled Viper from a horde of [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]] at the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage|Ragnar Anchorage]], then-Commander Adama breaks Starbuck's fighting trance over [[wireless]] communications with their greeting to call her back to the battlestar, which has committed itself to an imminent [[FTL]] jump. The debris of destroyed Raiders makes raining noises as they impact Starbuck's Viper ([[Miniseries, Night 2]]).

Before making an unauthorized jump to Cylon-occupied Caprica in a [[You Can't Go Home Again|captured Raider]], Thrace tells Adama that she is "bringing home the cat" after he questions her actions ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

In a [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)|deleted scene]] for the same episode, Adama again asks Starbuck what she hears when she is jogging through ''Galactica'''s hallways.

Over two years later, a distracted Thrace walks past Admiral Adama and President [[Laura Roslin]], oblivious to their presence, when Adama uses their greeting once more to get Thrace's attention. Soon after that Thrace's Viper is lost and she is presumed dead ([[Maelstrom]]). After her mysterious return, Adama uses the greeting again when he temporarily leaves ''Galactica'' to search for the missing President Roslin ([[Sine Qua Non]]).

Adama and Thrace give the greeting for the last time when they say goodbye to each other in [[Daybreak Part 2]].

== Usage ==

The greeting is generally consistent except for Thrace's last line, which is an acknowledgment ("Wilco" or "Aye-aye, sir!") that she tends to improvise.
{{WikiFrakr|What'd'ya hear?}}
:'''Adama:''' Starbuck, what do you hear?
:'''Starbuck:''' Nothing but the rain.
:'''Adama:''' Then grab your gun and bring in the cat.
:'''Starbuck:''' Boom, boom, boom!

== Notes ==
* According to a [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/07/ blog entry] by Ronald D. Moore, the exchange is an excerpt of a marching chant, which are common in militaries. He suggests that it has a deeper meaning for the characters, but he never wrote out the entire chant.

*"Nothing but the rain" is a Battlestar Wiki [[BW:TERM|descriptive term]].

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Nothing but the rain

2009-04-04T16:34:19Z

Hadri:

Over the course of their friendship, ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s commander [[William Adama]] and [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilot [[Kara Thrace]] have a greeting they share on occasion. The question "What do you hear?", followed by "'''Nothing but the rain'''" appears to have originated with ''Galactica's'' [[Cylon War|wartime]] commander (presumably [[Nash (RDM)|Commander Nash]]), as Adama and [[Jaycie McGavin]] mock this greeting during one of their sexual encounters ([[Razor Flashbacks]], Episode 1).

Adama greets Thrace with the saying as she jogs through the battlestar's corridors in the hours prior to the [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar's]] scheduled [[Galactica Museum|decommissioning]] ([[Miniseries, Night 1]]).

Some hours later, while Starbuck zealously defends [[Lee Adama]]'s crippled Viper from a horde of [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]] at the [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage|Ragnar Anchorage]], then-Commander Adama breaks Starbuck's fighting trance over [[wireless]] communications with their greeting to call her back to the battlestar, which has committed itself to an imminent [[FTL]] jump. The debris of destroyed Raiders makes raining noises as they impact Starbuck's Viper ([[Miniseries, Night 2]]).

Before making an unauthorized jump to Cylon-occupied Caprica in a [[You Can't Go Home Again|captured Raider]], Thrace tells Adama that she is "bringing home the cat" after he questions her actions ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

In a [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)|deleted scene]] for the same episode, Adama again asks Starbuck what she hears when she is jogging through ''Galactica'''s hallways.

Over two years later, a distracted Thrace walks past Admiral Adama and President [[Laura Roslin]], oblivious to their presence, when Adama uses their greeting once more to get Thrace's attention. Soon after that Thrace's Viper is lost and she is presumed dead ([[Maelstrom]]). After her mysterious return, Adama uses the greeting again when he temporarily leaves ''Galactica'' to search for the missing President Roslin ([[Sine Qua Non]]).

Adama and Thrace give the greeting for the last time when they say goodbye to each other in [[Daybreak, Part 2]].

== Usage ==

The greeting is generally consistent except for Thrace's last line, which is an acknowledgment ("Wilco" or "Aye-aye, sir!") that she tends to improvise.
{{WikiFrakr|What'd'ya hear?}}
:'''Adama:''' Starbuck, what do you hear?
:'''Starbuck:''' Nothing but the rain.
:'''Adama:''' Then grab your gun and bring in the cat.
:'''Starbuck:''' Boom, boom, boom!

== Notes ==
* According to a [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/07/ blog entry] by Ronald D. Moore, the exchange is an excerpt of a marching chant, which are common in militaries. He suggests that it has a deeper meaning for the characters, but he never wrote out the entire chant.

*"Nothing but the rain" is a Battlestar Wiki [[BW:TERM|descriptive term]].

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Flight pod

2009-04-04T05:38:55Z

Hadri:

Also known simply as "pods", the '''flight pods''' contain the [[Landing bay|landing bays]] within the top and the [[Hangar Deck|hangar deck]] below, along with the [[Launch tubes (RDM)|launch tubes]] within the bottom half, adjacent to the hangar deck. Normally these two pods are extended so that the landing bays are open to space, but are typically retracted in order to perform an [[FTL]] jump with a [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar class]] such as ''Galactica's''.

The forward end of the landing bay also serves as a launch area for Raptors and shuttles. The landing bay is large enough to accept a variety of other Colonial vessels, at least as large as "heavy" passenger ships such as ''[[Colonial Heavy 798]]''. Docking collars are located throughout the upper sections of the landing bay in order to provide a pressurized connection between a docked vessel and the battlestar.<ref name="docking">''Colonial Heavy 798'' is seen landing within ''Galactica's'' flight pod in the [[Miniseries]], where a docking ring is shown approaching the ship. As it left Caprica, a similar docking ring is shown detaching from ''798'' as the ship lifts off. This has a logical counterpart to the JetWay retractable tunnels at airports on the real-world Earth, and would be reasonable given that civilian passengers would expect to walk to and from the ship without spacesuits or in hazardous conditions.</ref> The flight pods also have docking ports to dock with larger ships or stations.

Despite being exposed to space, the flight decks of both ''Pegasus'' and ''Galactica'' are equipped with [[Gravity in the Re-imagined Series| artificial gravity]], to assist in plane recovery and is also sufficient for a human to walk on with the aid of a space suit ([[Razor]], [[Blood on the Scales]]).

Compartments within a flight pod can be sealed off [[frame]] by frame and vented to space to kill fires and prevent possible complete decompression and structural buckling. This occurred to the port flight pod after it was struck with a Cylon kiloton nuclear missile and was subjected to internal fires that threatened to ignite the ship fuel lines and destroy the ship. The use of the busy port hangar deck as a morgue would be rather morbid, so Commander Adama orders [[Galen Tyrol]] to set up a temporary morgue be in "hangar bay B" after the loss of 85 crewmembers from the strike ([[Miniseries]]). Since the port hangar deck (bay) is very busy with retrieving Vipers, and we see Captain [[Aaron Kelly|Kelly]] with the bodies in what
appears otherwise as an empty hangar deck, it is likely the unused hangar deck of the starboard flight pod.

== ''Galactica'' ==

[[Image:Hanger.JPG|right|thumb|200px|''Galactica's'' port flight pod.]]

''[[Galactica]]'', as with other battlestars, has one flight pod on each side of the ship.
The port flight pod was the only flight pod on ''Galactica'' currently in use at the time of the [[Cylon Attack]]. The starboard flight pod's landing bay was converted into a [[Galactica Museum|pressurized museum]] of artifacts of the first [[Cylon War]], including with a gift shop in the former launch bay. Crewman [[Socinus]] complains of the problems in keeping the landing bay's external windows sealed from leaks at the start of the [[Miniseries]].

The starboard landing bay remains closed off from space until a Cylon [[Heavy Raider]] later crashes through one of the windows, depressurizing the landing bay ([[Scattered]]). After the Battle of New Caprica, the starboard flight pod appears to have been returned to partial working order as Lee Adama announces that his Raptor approaches the starboard landing bay in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". However, this could be explained by special circumstances, as the boarding team is supposed to undergo quarantine procedures and might thus land in a more isolated place. The second explanation appears more likely, because in late Season 3 episodes the window covering the rear opening of the pod is still visible.

Since the escape from New Caprica, ''Galactica'''s flight pods have been put to use increasingly in other roles than just housing Vipers and Raptors. The hangar deck is used as the site of a [[Camp Oil Slick|refugee camp]] ([[Torn]]), as the scene of a sanctioned boxing tournament known as "the dance" ([[Unfinished Business]]), as a temporary shelter for the civilian population of the Fleet while navigating a radiation-dense star cluster ([[The Passage]]) and a full-time [[Joe's bar|bar]] has been set up on an unused stretch of the hangar deck ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]). This most likely all happened in the relatively unused starboard flight pod.

From comparing various graphics, it can be seen that the length of one of ''Galactica'' 's flight pods is around 660 metres long, 60 metres tall and 46 metres wide. Most of the internal space is taken up by the pod's enormous [[landing bay]], giving it similar dimensions.{{fact}}

Raptors are advised to fully exit the flight pod and move some distance from the battlestar before activating their FTLs to avoid causing damage from the spatial disruption caused by the jump ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]). ''Galactica'''s starboard flight pod was ruptured by several Raptors jumping after being moved into the bay ([[Daybreak, Part 3]]). It should be noted that the old battlestar was suffering from endemic metal fatigue in her hull by this point- rendering her particularly vulnerable to damage. it is not known how risky a FTL jump within a flight pod would be to a full-strength, top-of -the-line battlestar.

''Galactica'' typically retracts the flight pods in order to perform an FTL jump, but it is still possible to jump with them extended. However when exiting a jump after suffering massive damage, an already-structurally weakened ''Galactica'' suffers a series of hull collapses and distortions, and several Vipers are thrown clear of the flight pods. This suggests that jumping with the flight pods out, though possible, might increase the strain on the ship's structure and cause a hazard to any vessel in the landing bay ([[Daybreak, Part 2]]). As above, note that ''Galactica's'' superstructure was already fundamentaly weak at this point- it is not known what damage jumping with the pods out would cause to a top-of-the-line ship of ''Galactica's'' class.

Galactica possesses at least three large vehicles that can move about on the flight deck, which probably perform maintenance work on the flight deck but can also apparently be used to help direct the landing of Vipers. ([[Daybreak Part 2]]) Like ''Pegasus,'' other smaller wheeled vehicles are likely also used on ''Galactica''.

== ''Pegasus'' ==

[[Image:Pegasusflightpod.jpg|thumb|left|''Pegasus'' 's drifting flight pod before colliding with a basestar.]]
The [[Mercury class battlestar|Mercury class battlestar]] ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' also has flight pods, but they differ greatly from ''Galactica's'' in that these larger pods are fixed and not retracted before a jump, with each pod transversely split into two landing bays to allow four distinct landing areas for fighters.

Several of ''Pegasus'' ' main guns are instead located along the flight pods instead of on the dorsal hull (like ''Galactica'' 's are).

The lower landing bay is placed upside down in relation to the upper bay, with ships also landing "upside down" relative to the battlestar main interior. The internal arrangement of the hangar decks is unknown, but some mechanism could exist to flip Vipers during transport to the internal hangars.

Another difference from ''Galactica'' is the addition of an external landing pad in the center of the pod, which would allow for the launch and recovery of Raptors and other small craft without interfering with Viper landings. Vehicles, such as bulldozers, tows and fork lifts, are available to recover landed or damaged spacecraft within the landing bay ([[Razor]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the abandoned and unmanned ''Pegasus'' collides with and destroys one of the four basestars that attack ''Galactica''. One of its flight pods breaks off the destroyed battlestar and tumbles away to collide with and destroy yet another basestar ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

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== See Also ==

* [[landing bay]]
* [[launch tubes (RDM)|launch tubes]]
* [[hangar deck]]

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Gravity in the Re-imagined Series

2009-04-04T04:36:50Z

Hadri:

{{RDM science series}}

:''Much of the information on this page was derived from the Wikipedia article on [[w:Artificial gravity|artificial gravity]].''

[[Image:Synthgravity1.jpg|right|thumb|Throwaway graphics in the upper right corner of this computer display shows terms relating to the artificial gravity in a [[Raptor]].]]
While the use of artificial gravity in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]] is obvious, there are only two explicit references. One is from the few close-ups of [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series|computer]] displays, where the terms "gravity control" and "synthetic gravity" are shown (upper right corner of the picture to the right). The second is [[Margaret Edmondson]] mentioning that the "grav field" is deactivated when she boards a drifting Raptor in the episode "[[Sine Qua Non]]".

Real-world scientific theories present several potential means of simulating or producing gravitational effects:

* ''Rotation of the spacecraft'' to generate centrifugal forces within a spacecraft.
:This motion would push objects and people in the ship outward, so the outside skin of the ship would act as the "floor". This was done in the movie ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' (the crew compartment inside the ''Discovery'' spun) and the TV show ''[[w:Babylon 5|Babylon 5]]'' (the cylindrical space station spun on its longitudinal axis). One of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]]'s ships in fact sometimes uses this form of artificial gravity: the ''[[Space Park]]''. Viewers can get a good view of this ship in motion when the Fleet leaves [[Ragnar Anchorage]] in the Miniseries. It's specified that the ship's design dates from a period when centrifugal force was the main artificial-gravity solution in place, before whatever current technology is in use came into widespread use.

* ''Keeping the ship at constant acceleration'', with the crew standing in the opposite direction of acceleration.
:Same principle that every astronaut experiences as their rocket launches into space and accelerates. This of course means that the ship must get progressively faster for eternity; stabilizing speed would lead to weightlessness, and stopping the ship would send everyone crashing into the ceiling.

* ''Place something with a lot of mass'' within your ship.
:This isn't artificial gravity, but the real thing. But there is the matter of the energies required to move your ship, the large gravity well that wants to attract other objects into your ship's general direction, and the shape of your ship. Gravity just '''works''', pulling from every direction, so you would need a round ship to keep from strange changes in gravity aboard a ship. Worst of all, the amount of fuel needed to move a ship with a local mass concentration would be very high.

* ''Use tidal forces''.
:Stretch a tether with a small mass between a large gravity source and the ship you want. Cheap, fuel-free, and reliable. There's the matter of actually being able to travel somewhere besides planetary orbit without losing gravity, however. Several ships from the science-fiction role-playing game series "[[w:Xenosaga|Xenosaga]]," particularly the vessels ''Durandal'' and ''Dämmerung'', appear to use a concept similar to this with masses rotating around the ship in a controlled orbit maintained by forcefields.

* ''Use magnetism''.
:The term for this is [[w:Diamagnetism|diamagnetism]]. Based on the technologies we've seen in the Re-imagined Series (such as their use of magnetism for landing and launching Vipers)<ref name="vipers">In the [[Miniseries]], a preflight checkout and launch of the fighters can be seen. For launch, the [[Launch tubes (RDM)|launch tubes]] use a magnetic catapult ("magcat") to hurl the Vipers out. On landing, either magnetism or some blend of artificial gravity pulls Vipers to rest on the deck of the [[flight pod]]. This force appears to be just strong enough; note the bouncing that the fighters do as their landing skids hit the landing deck while they retreat to ''Galactica'' as it prepares to jump from Ragnar Anchorage at the conclusion of the Miniseries.</ref>, this principle has the most viability, but is also fraught with huge problems in application.
:''Everything'' has a magnetic attraction, but most objects (a human body included) have very little of it. Diamagnetism at the present time has mostly been used to ''repel'' two objects, i.e. to levitate one of them, instead of to attract them, as gravity would.<ref>Scientists on Earth have actually [http://www.hfml.science.ru.nl/levitate.html levitated a frog at a force of 1''g'' ] (Earth's gravity), but it took a massive amount of cryogenically frozen hardware to do it, and that was using the magnet to push ''away'' from Earth's gravity, not push the object ''down''.</ref>. Also, high magnetic field concentrations are probably not very healthy in the long term. [http://star-www.st-and.ac.uk/~jrs/safety/magnetic.html]

However, these methods, although proven in practice or at least mathematically, are not likely to be the solution implemented in the series. Other possibilities do exist that could more completely match the solutions used in the show, but are based less in current scientific understanding and more on imaginary technology, including:

* Use ''gravitomagnetism''.
: Artificial gravity, or cancellation of gravity, is sometimes present in spacecraft that are neither rotating nor accelerating. At present, there is no confirmed technique that can produce gravity other than sheer mass. There have been many claims over the years of such a device. Eugene Podkletnov, a Russian engineer, has claimed since the early 1990s to have made such a device consisting of a spinning superconductor producing a powerful gravitomagnetic field, but there has been no verification or even negative results from third parties. In 2006, a research group funded by ESA claimed to have created a similar device that demonstrated positive results for the production of gravitomagnetism, although it produced only 100 millionths of a g[http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html].

* ''Simulate gravity with force fields.''
:The eponymous spaceship in the TV show ''[[w:Andromeda (TV series)|Andromeda]]'' uses "gravity generators". The ''Star Trek'' universe has a [[MemoryAlpha:Artificial gravity|similar concept]]. This seems to be a slap in the face of the realistic SF ethos since it has no basis in scientific plausibilty at present.

* ''Spacetime manipulation.''
:The ability to do [[FTL|Faster Than Light travel]] indicates the Colonials have the advanced technology to manipulate spacetime. The same principles that enable this technology could be used to create gravitational effects on Colonial ships. While such technology is currently as far-flung as the aforementioned force fields and FTL drives, the concept may be arguably the most plausible as the actual solution as its correlation to FTL in the series has roots in [[w:General Relativity|general relativity]]".

So far the concept of artificial gravity in the show has yet to be explained; As much about gravity is still unknown, however, this would be in keeping with the show's [[Naturalistic science fiction|naturalistic sci-fi]] aesthetic.

===What about the flight pods on ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]''?===

Unlike ''Galactica'''s, each flight pod on the advanced battlestar ''Pegasus'' are divided along its length into two landing bays. In "[[The Captain's Hand]]", Vipers are flying inverted (relative to the battlestar) and land in the bays "upside down." Is artificial gravity to be credited with this?

The answer is more likely magnetism. Vipers are launched with a magnetic catapult, and (as seen in "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]") can magnetically mate using their landing skids to a metal surface (in this case, the interior of a freighter). Like gravity, magnetism works in any direction, and takes little to maintain. Confirming this idea is a scene from the [[Miniseries]]. As ''[[Colonial Heavy 798]]'' lands in ''Galactica'''s port flight pod to offload passengers for the decommissioning ceremony, two spacesuited figures are working on the deck. The two crewmembers are floating, suggesting that artificial gravity is ''not'' in use. Reinforcing this are the [[combat landing]]s done by Vipers. The fighters bounce very noticeably at high speeds but, unlike a rock skipping across a pond, the Viper bounces less ballistically, suggesting that a weaker force than normal gravity is at work. How the Vipers get from the upside-down flight deck to the right-side-up [[hangar deck]], however, is unknown.
* However, in the fourth season it was shown multiple times that at least part of the flight decks on both ships have artificial gravity that humans can walk on. Humans can be seen on the flight decks very explicitly in "[[Blood on the Scales]]'' and if you look closely, in "[[Razor]]" as well. Presumably gravity on the flight decks would make it easier to operate the various maintenance vehicles both ships have as well.

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Flight pod

2009-04-04T04:27:30Z

Hadri: With regards to artificial gravity, in the 4th season there were some new instances of this.

Also known simply as "pods", the '''flight pods''' contain the [[Landing bay|landing bays]] within the top and the [[Hangar Deck|hangar deck]] below, along with the [[Launch tubes (RDM)|launch tubes]] within the bottom half, adjacent to the hangar deck. Normally these two pods are extended so that the landing bays are open to space, but are typically retracted in order to perform an [[FTL]] jump with a [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar class]] such as ''Galactica's''.

The forward end of the landing bay also serves as a launch area for Raptors and shuttles. The landing bay is large enough to accept a variety of other Colonial vessels, at least as large as "heavy" passenger ships such as ''[[Colonial Heavy 798]]''. Docking collars are located throughout the upper sections of the landing bay in order to provide a pressurized connection between a docked vessel and the battlestar.<ref name="docking">''Colonial Heavy 798'' is seen landing within ''Galactica's'' flight pod in the [[Miniseries]], where a docking ring is shown approaching the ship. As it left Caprica, a similar docking ring is shown detaching from ''798'' as the ship lifts off. This has a logical counterpart to the JetWay retractable tunnels at airports on the real-world Earth, and would be reasonable given that civilian passengers would expect to walk to and from the ship without spacesuits or in hazardous conditions.</ref> The flight pods also have docking ports to dock with larger ships or stations.

Despite being exposed to space, the flight decks of both ''Pegasus'' and ''Galactica'' are equipped with [[Gravity in the Re-imagined Series| artificial gravity]], to assist in plane recovery and is also sufficient for a human to walk on with the aid of a space suit ([[Razor]], [[Blood on the Scales]]).

Compartments within a flight pod can be sealed off [[frame]] by frame and vented to space to kill fires and prevent possible complete decompression and structural buckling. This occurred to the port flight pod after it was struck with a Cylon kiloton nuclear missile and was subjected to internal fires that threatened to ignite the ship fuel lines and destroy the ship. The use of the busy port hangar deck as a morgue would be rather morbid, so Commander Adama orders [[Galen Tyrol]] to set up a temporary morgue be in "hangar bay B" after the loss of 85 crewmembers from the strike ([[Miniseries]]). Since the port hangar deck (bay) is very busy with retrieving Vipers, and we see Captain [[Aaron Kelly|Kelly]] with the bodies in what
appears otherwise as an empty hangar deck, it is likely the unused hangar deck of the starboard flight pod.

== ''Galactica'' ==

[[Image:Hanger.JPG|right|thumb|200px|''Galactica's'' port flight pod.]]

''[[Galactica]]'', as with other battlestars, has one flight pod on each side of the ship.
The port flight pod was the only flight pod on ''Galactica'' currently in use at the time of the [[Cylon Attack]]. The starboard flight pod's landing bay was converted into a [[Galactica Museum|pressurized museum]] of artifacts of the first [[Cylon War]], including with a gift shop in the former launch bay. Crewman [[Socinus]] complains of the problems in keeping the landing bay's external windows sealed from leaks at the start of the [[Miniseries]].

The starboard landing bay remains closed off from space until a Cylon [[Heavy Raider]] later crashes through one of the windows, depressurizing the landing bay ([[Scattered]]). After the Battle of New Caprica, the starboard flight pod appears to have been returned to partial working order as Lee Adama announces that his Raptor approaches the starboard landing bay in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". However, this could be explained by special circumstances, as the boarding team is supposed to undergo quarantine procedures and might thus land in a more isolated place. The second explanation appears more likely, because in late Season 3 episodes the window covering the rear opening of the pod is still visible.

Since the escape from New Caprica, ''Galactica'''s flight pods have been put to use increasingly in other roles than just housing Vipers and Raptors. The hangar deck is used as the site of a [[Camp Oil Slick|refugee camp]] ([[Torn]]), as the scene of a sanctioned boxing tournament known as "the dance" ([[Unfinished Business]]), as a temporary shelter for the civilian population of the Fleet while navigating a radiation-dense star cluster ([[The Passage]]) and a full-time [[Joe's bar|bar]] has been set up on an unused stretch of the hangar deck ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]). This most likely all happened in the relatively unused starboard flight pod.

From comparing various graphics, it can be seen that the length of one of ''Galactica'' 's flight pods is around 660 metres long, 60 metres tall and 46 metres wide. Most of the internal space is taken up by the pod's enormous [[landing bay]], giving it similar dimensions.{{fact}}

Raptors are advised to fully exit the flight pod and move some distance from the battlestar before activating their FTLs to avoid causing damage from the spatial disruption caused by the jump ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]). ''Galactica'''s starboard flight pod was ruptured by several Raptors jumping after being moved into the bay ([[Daybreak, Part 3]]). It should be noted that the old battlestar was suffering from endemic metal fatigue in her hull by this point- rendering her particularly vulnerable to damage. it is not known how risky a FTL jump within a flight pod would be to a full-strength, top-of -the-line battlestar.

''Galactica'' typically retracts the flight pods in order to perform an FTL jump, but it is still possible to jump with them extended. However when exiting a jump after suffering massive damage, an already-structurally weakened ''Galactica'' suffers a series of hull collapses and distortions, and several Vipers are thrown clear of the flight pods. This suggests that jumping with the flight pods out, though possible, might increase the strain on the ship's structure and cause a hazard to any vessel in the landing bay ([[Daybreak, Part 2]]). As above, note that ''Galactica's'' superstructure was already fundamentaly weak at this point- it is not known what damage jumping with the pods out would cause to a top-of-the-line ship of ''Galactica's'' class.

Galactica possesses at least two large vehicles that can move about on the flight deck, which probably perform maintenance work on the flight deck but also appear to be used in directing the landing of Vipers. ([[Daybreak Part 2]]) Like ''Pegasus,'' other smaller wheeled vehicles are likely also used on ''Galactica''.

== ''Pegasus'' ==

[[Image:Pegasusflightpod.jpg|thumb|left|''Pegasus'' 's drifting flight pod before colliding with a basestar.]]
The [[Mercury class battlestar|Mercury class battlestar]] ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' also has flight pods, but they differ greatly from ''Galactica's'' in that these larger pods are fixed and not retracted before a jump, with each pod transversely split into two landing bays to allow four distinct landing areas for fighters.

Several of ''Pegasus'' ' main guns are instead located along the flight pods instead of on the dorsal hull (like ''Galactica'' 's are).

The lower landing bay is placed upside down in relation to the upper bay, with ships also landing "upside down" relative to the battlestar main interior. The internal arrangement of the hangar decks is unknown, but some mechanism could exist to flip Vipers during transport to the internal hangars.

Another difference from ''Galactica'' is the addition of an external landing pad in the center of the pod, which would allow for the launch and recovery of Raptors and other small craft without interfering with Viper landings. Vehicles, such as bulldozers, tows and fork lifts, are available to recover landed or damaged spacecraft within the landing bay ([[Razor]]).

During the [[Battle of New Caprica]], the abandoned and unmanned ''Pegasus'' collides with and destroys one of the four basestars that attack ''Galactica''. One of its flight pods breaks off the destroyed battlestar and tumbles away to collide with and destroy yet another basestar ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

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Daybreak, Part II/Notes

2009-04-02T21:46:25Z

Hadri:

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===The fate of the Colonials and Rebel Cylons===
*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]], [[Laura Roslin]]. and all the Cylons at the Colony. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and is taken to a place unknown. In detail:
**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with [[Helo]] and beating her in the lavatory. Also she was a security threat and there was no way to take her along and watch her effectively. Despite her redeeming act of giving back Hera, she couldn't be trusted.
**Cavil takes his own life in Galactica's CIC when the resurrection designs are irrevocably lost with the death of Tory Foster.
***It is unknown what happens to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line. The death of only a single Cavil is depicted, but any other Number Ones would face eventual extinction like all other humanoid Cylons.
**Racetrack and Skulls's Raptor is struck by an asteroid fragment, puncturing their canopy and killing them on impact (as well as at least three marines on board). When another asteroid hits the Raptor, Racetrack's limp hand hits the launch button that fires the nuclear missiles.
**Tory is killed by [[Galen Tyrol]] upon his learning Tory murdered his wife Cally during the [[Final Five]]'s mutual and involuntary sharing memories while downloading the Resurrection designs to the Colony.
***This is ironic considering that in their previous lives on the original Earth the pair were madly in love and planned on marriage.
**Anders pilots ''Galactica'' and guided the Fleet into the Sun.
***A possible CG error occurs here; look closely and you can see ''[[Hitei Kan]]'' flying backwards into the sun.
[[Image:Hitei_Kan_Daybreak.PNG|frame|right|139×112px|Is Hitei Kan being flown backwards?]]
**Roslin dies peacefully as Adama gives her a bird's eye view of their new home in a Raptor. She is the first Colonial human to die on Earth. During the Raptor flight she passd away exactly one minute and thirty seconds from being shown the spot Bill Adama wanted to build his-their-cabin.
**Since they have neither female Cylons nor Resurrection technology, the Cavils, Simons and Dorals on the various Cylon baseships will presumably die out.
**Kara is presumably taken by the same force, stated to be God by [[Virtual Six]], that resurrected her.
*The fates of numerous supporting characters are not shown.
**[[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]] is last seen flying his Viper back to ''Galactica'' after the initial cease fire. He likely survives since there is no mention of him being killed, and he is alive when the truce is called and the remaining Vipers and Raptors safely land on ''Galactica''.
**Since she isn't seen volunteering in the hanger deck or depicted in the attack, it is very likely that [[Diana Seelix]] didn't volunteer.
**Ishay is not seen after Roslin leaves sickbay.
**The episode also never touches on what becomes of [[Cult of Baltar|Baltar's cult]], including [[Jeanne]], [[Paulla]] and [[Tracy Anne]]. Founding member Jeanne who is absent from the finale but it is perfectly safe to assume that she and her fellow Cultist are with the people on the planet. Paulla and Tracy Anne were last scene on the last Raptor trying to get Baltar to come with them to the Baseship where many of the civilians including Baltar's flock were taken. They were unsuccessful and Paulla and Tracy-Anne went to the baseship without incident. Jeanne was almost certainly there and with the settlement on Earth.
**Captain Kelly, last seen in [[Blood on the Scales]] does not appear in this finale at all.
*The recurring subplot about the [[Sons of Ares]] and its growing conflict with the [[Cult of Baltar]] is unresolved.
*The Raiders are seen using missiles for the first time since the Fall of the Twelve Colonies.
*Racetrack's Raptor, and possibly the other ones in its flight group destroyed in the assault on the Colony, was carrying the last nukes from ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'', marking the end of humanity's use of these weapons (which were used to destroy the Twelve Colonies at the start of the series) for another 150,000 years. Presumably the baseship's store of nukes remains intact and some weren't "borrowed" by the humans for the attack.
*It is very likely that Saul Tigh, Galen Tyrol and definitely Tory Foster never recovered their first hand memories of life before and after Old Earth and before Cavil killed them and blocked their true memories when they resurrected. Tory Foster will certainly never have that chance since she was killed by Tyrol in a fit of rage over Tory's murder of Cally.
*The tracing of the human blood line through [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial DNA|Mitochondrial DNA]] to the furthest maternal common ancestor and dubbing her [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] is a real theory. Mitochondrial Eve was the ''matrilineal most recent common ancestor'', the most recent person in the female line that '''all''' of humanity can be said to be from. In other words, Hera is everybody's mother's mother's ... mother's mother. This does NOT imply that she is the only ancestor of modern humans. In fact, it implies that each female alive at the time either has no surviving descendants, or is ALSO a common ancestor (though not a purely maternal one). This also means that we as a species are related to Athena Hera's mother.
** In the series, Hera is Mitochondrial Eve, meaning that all of modern humanity is a combination of Colonial humanity and Cylon, although there maybe ancestors of native New Earth in the current population from the male line of descendants.
** The fossilized remains are said to be of a young woman, indicating Hera does not live to see a middle age, though she has children before she dies. Specifically, she must have had daughters to pass on her mitochondrial DNA.
** Since mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother only, and Hera has a Cylon mother, her mitochondrial DNA and that of all her descendants is pure Cylon making us all direct decendents of Athena.
*Also in the podcast, RDM is happy to confirm that Tyrol did find some natives in Scotland and ended up being the 'King of the Scots', apparently since Aaron Douglas loved the idea of Scottish civilization (with its tradition of great engineers) being descended from Tyrol. This may suggest that Galen Tyrol, a male Cylon, had successfully mated and produced children with a New Earth native human female to produce at least one other hybrid.
*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate forethought, gave [[Caprica Six]] the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it if caught. Previously Baltar's giving of Caprica Six the secrets was implied - or at least inferred - to be from naive vanity to impress his girlfriend Caprica Six. The Colonists still don't know this.
*The Colonials never did find out that Gaius Baltar gave [[Gina Inviere]] a nuclear device on the space liner ''[[Cloud 9]]'' destroying that liner and all on board near what would be called [[New Caprica]]. That same explosion would bring the Cylons to New Caprica a year later due to them being a light year away at the time they saw it, making him responsible for the occupation.
*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth, and the humans of today are the distant descendants of Hera.
*Before deciding that ''Galactica'' should reach Earth in prehistoric times, Moore toyed with the idea of having the Fleet arrive during the Hellenistic period and formed the basis of the ancient Greek religion and society. However, this idea was rejected as it suggested that the Colonials blessed only Western civilization with their knowledge rather than all of humanity, and it did not acknowledge Hera's importance. Moore read an article on the idea of a common human ancestor which he decided should be Hera. This also explains why the Fleet personnel landed in Africa (the network had been suggesting it should be North America, presumably to match the final shot of Season 3).
**According to the podcast for the episode, the destruction of the Fleet and the spreading out of the surviving Colonials over the planet's surface was supposed to be a sign of humanity's committal to their new world, not necessarily promoting a Luddite agenda. The comparison that is drawn is Cortes burning his ships on the shores of central America so his men would not have a way of retreating if things got difficult. However, RDM later mentions that one of the last shots was to have been of the Colonials destroying their last Raptors, which suggests that the Luddite approach was more what they were aimng for.
*There was no final population count given after the engagement with the Cavil forces. However, there were no reported deaths by accident or violence before the engagement so the population count is most likely the same as it was in "[[Daybreak, Part I]]" before the attack on the Cylon Colony, 39,516.
**A new population count post-engagement is given in the separate iTunes release of Daybreak, Part III. The count is 39,406, putting Colonial casualties from the battle at 110. Then shortly after their arrival on New Earth former President of the 12 Colonies of Kobol Laura Roslin dies, and Kara Thrace vanishes without a trace. From this we can derive that the number of people settled on New Earth is 39,404. This does not include the unknown number of humanoid Cylons from the baseship (which probably was never stated) and possibly Athena and the remaining three of the Final Five who aren't considered human survivors.
*The Centurions are granted full independence and subsequently depart in the rebel Baseship to pursue their own destiny. Their status 150,000 years later remains a mystery. The Colonials and humanoid Cylons believe it is unlikely they will be a threat, as they have no reason to bear a grudge this time around.
*When ''Galactica'' and the Fleet fly into the Sun, only 15 ships can be seen when at least 35 ships were still in the Fleet during the Mutiny, and upwards of 90 after the events of the mini-series. However, establishing shots of the Fleet rarely show more than a dozen ships in one shot regardless, and the implication is that the entire Fleet was destroyed.

===Aftermath of the War===
*There is a poetic ring to the nature of the conflict of the Second Cylon War:
** It began with the Cylon attack on Colonies nearly wiping out mankind. It ended with the Colonial attack on the Cylon Colony very likely wiping out the Cylons who didn't join with the humans.
**Shortly after the Cylon attack on Caprica, Baltar -- having unintentionally brought about the near-annihilation of the human species -- flees Caprica when Karl Agathon gives him his place on a Raptor, feeling that his own life is less important to save than a famed scientist's. But at the end of the series, it is Baltar who puts his own life at risk for the sake of saving Agathon's daughter Hera and expresses concern for her future well being to the very end of the series (both ends of this parallel occur in wide open fields).
**Agathon and Cylon Sharon Valerii are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.
**The earliest known detail we see of Gaius Baltar's life is his effort to break away from his family history as farmers, and his shame over his heritage. The last event we see in his embrace of a new beginning as a farmer.
**Baltar and Number Six are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.
**The earliest event we see from Laura Roslin's life (retroactively) is the death of her sisters, killed during transit. The last event of her life that we see is her own death, which occurs during transit.
**The series starts and finishes with two "endings" for ''Galactica'': its scheduled decommissioning in the mini-series, and its destruction by setting course into the sun in the finale.
**The series begins with a selfish decision Baltar makes (to give Caprica Six access to military mainframes) that nearly destroys Colonial humanity. It ends with a selfless decision Baltar makes (to fulfill his destiny in saving Hera) that gives Colonial humanity a new start in the form of Hera.
** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.
**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician.
**The Cylons started the war with the attack on the 12 Colonies by being able to use a backdoor program to shutdown the Colonial defenses including those of the more advanced Vipers and Battlestars. They were able to only use the less advance Mark IV Vipers and Battlestar Galactica. At the end of the war the Colonials at the Battle of the Colony was able to shutdown the Colony's defenses by using Sam Anders as a hybrid to talk remotely to the Colony's Hybrids who recognized him and stop firing. The Cavil Faction Cylons could only use lobotomized Raiders to attack the Galactica. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies using nuclear weapons by the Colonials using nuclear weapons to send the Colony into the singularity.

===Miscellaneous===
*The title of the episode coincides with German philosopher [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche Friedrich Nietzsche’s] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_(book) book] of the same title, and fits with numerous references to Nietzsche’s philosophy throughout the episode. Most obviously, Baltar, in his speech to Cavil in the CIC, states that "God is a force of nature … [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil_(book) beyond good and evil]." ''Beyond Good and Evil'' is another of Nietzsche’s works. Baltar goes on to say "Good and evil—we created those," echoing Nietzsche’s claim in the First Treatise of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Genealogy_of_Morality ''On the Genealogy of Morality''] that morality, including the concepts of "good" and "evil," are human constructs whose utility must be examined. Baltar also asks Cavil if he wants to "break the cycle of birth, death, rebirth…" which recalls the [[Pythia|Pythian prophecy]] that "All this has happened before. All this will happen again." This is also a reference to Nietzsche's concept of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return#Friedrich_Nietzsche ''eternal recurrence''], that living one's life exactly the same, over and over for eternity, can be the worst of punishments (for those who live trivial lives) but also the greatest of gifts (for those who live great lives).
*''Galactica'' ramming the [[The Colony|Colony]] is foretold in the imagery of Hera's play with tactical models at the beginning of "[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]". She is shown on top of ''Galactica'''s tactical light table with models of ''Galactica'', three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, sliding ''Galactica'' against the side of a baseship.
*Shortly after recovering from being shot by Boomer, Admiral Adama visits her corpse in ''Galactica's'' morgue in "[[The Farm]]" and asks, "Why?" There is no indication that in the weeks Boomer was held on ''Galactica'' during the events between "[[Deadlock]]" and "[[Someone to Watch Over Me]]" that he ever visited her to find out why she shot him, but he was clearly still bitter about it in "Someone to Watch Over Me". He knows she was programmed to do it, but he never resolves the emotional aspect of it, and with her death Adama never learns the answer to that question. His not visiting her might indicate he didn't care anymore.
*Saul Tigh offers a similar deal to the one the Final Five offered to the Centurions during the [[First Cylon War]]: An end to the attacks on humanity in exchange for resurrection. Durig the first war, it was in exchange for resurrection '''and''' the creation of humanoid Cylons.
*During Adama's polygraph examination for his high paying civilian job post retirement from the service he was asked Are you a Cylon? by the examiner. This is one more indication that it possibly known to some in power that the Cylons were working on humanoid looking versions of themselves although it was not widely known publicly.
**It is clear from dialog in the episode that the question was meant as a control to get a baseline reading. Polygraph interviewers begin with a series of questions that they already know are true or false; like the subject's name, date of birth, etc. Asking Adama if he's a Cylon was simply an absurd question, the answer to which would obviously be "no," for later comparison when the real questioning began.
***True, but remember what young Lt. William "Husker" Adama saw in that facility he crash landed in just minutes before the end of the [[First Cylon War]] in [[Razor]]. People being experimented on and a vat. I would think he reported what he saw to his superiors. And of course there could be the revelations of the up coming "Caprica" and some knowing the research Graystone was working on which his own father was privy to. The Examiner may believe his question was absurd but it could be the reason Adama hesitated and was offended and not laugh it off as the absurd question.
****Dialogue ''explicitly'' establishes that the question was simply a control for the polygraph. Adama's offense is clearly based on the questioning of his word, as established, again expressly, with his response and implicitly in context throughout the episode and the series. The question has '''absolutely nothing''' to do with a substantive inquiry about whether Adama is a Cylon.
*****Keep in mind what Adama knows about what he saw in "Razor" and anything he has learned since then, which is why he was able to deduce Leoben was a Cylon in the Miniseries at [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. To the polygraph examiner it was a non sense question, but to Adama it was more than that. It was a silly question to the examiner, but a very real one to Adama. Adama knows something the examiner doesn't. That it is not merely an absurd control question to Adama. That is why he reacted. If it was it would had been like if he was asked if he was a shark or a frog.
*According to the podcast, the ''Galactica'' was originally going to jump right inside the Colony for the attack, but RDM changed it because he wanted the ship to have open space around it for the final Viper/Raider dogfight.
*''Galactica'' is shown executing a jump without retracting her flight pods, which was earlier said to be required<ref>Special effects continuity errors have sometimes shown ''Galactica'' jumping with pods extended and emerging with them retracted.</ref> ([[Miniseries, Night 2]]). However, it is possible that the resulting stresses from jumping with the pods extended contribute to ''Galactica'''s structural failure.
**There may be a clue in the nature of the damage incurred following the jump. A wave-like motion appears to run the length of the ship; perhaps FTL jumps always inflict similar stresses, but under normal conditions the nesting of the flight pods into their recessed 'valleys' (and their support arms into the presumably void spaces between them) lends structural reinforcement to counter said forces.
**Galactica has also been upgraded with Cylon jump technology, so it's possible that it no longer needs to retract the pods, like [[Pegasus]].
*According to the podcast, when Laura asks "Where have you taken us, Kara?" Starbuck was supposed to reply, "Somewhere along the watchtower." Director Michael Rhymer did not like this idea and simply didn't shoot the line. Moore later agreed that it was better not to have Kara speak.
*The shot of ''Galactica'' flying over the Moon and reaching Earth was inspired by real-life shots from the Apollo space program, specifically Apollo 8's shot of coming around the dark side of the Moon and the Apollo 17 shot of the Earth itself.
*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th <ref>http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html</ref>. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" and "[[Rapture]]".
**According to the episode podcast, the sequences on Earth at the end were the ones filmed at Kamloops. Some CGI was used to remove distinctive Canadian evergreen trees from the background and replace them with more Africa-looking foilage, but otherwise the landscape was actually a decent match for Africa.
*Although Part I had a runtime of one hour, Part II will run for two hours. An even longer cut of Daybreak will later be released on DVD. <ref>{{cite_news|first=|last=|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/07/talking-battles.html|title=Talking 'Battlestar Galactica's' finale, 'Caprica' and the 'Battlestar' TV movie with Ron Moore}}</ref>
*The ''[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]'', the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun]'' is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.
*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all. In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, "Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe", W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver. [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x] Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.
**According to the podcast, Ronald D. Moore was wearing a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt in the final shot, but they chose not to show this. The shot of the realistic Japanese female robot was found by Terry Moore online and was referred to as the 'next' Number Six by RDM.
**Also according to the podcast, Baltar saying "It doesn't like that name," is significant, and is indeed meant to confirm that whatever 'God' is in the series, it isn't necessarily what the name implies.
*The Centurion Model 0005 in the museum case is a retcon. In the [[Miniseries]], it was an Original Series costume, with the black skirt and non-exposed joints. In this episode, it is a CGI First War Centurion 0005 with exposed joints and no black skirt.
**It is not explained why the museum flight pod is shown to be in nearly pristine condition when, in addition to four years of battles and the atmosphere-drop over New Caprica, a Cylon Heavy Raider crashed through the overhead window and crushed several of the exhibits in ''[[Scattered]]''. Repairing the museum and exhibits would have seemed to be a low priority during subsequent events.
*Reference (possibly intentional) is made to Olmos' earlier work: Adama's flushing of flamingos while flying a Raptor is reminiscent of the flamingos flushing during the opening credits of Miami Vice, the TV series in which Edward James Olmos co-starred.
*The news network covering the story "Advances in Robotics" as Angel Baltar and Six pass by is [http://www.msnbc.com MSNBC], the 24 hour news network arm of the NBC Universal media conglomerate which also owns the SyFy Channel (at the time the SciFi Channel), which produces ''Battlestar Galactica'' and airs the series in the United States.
**The last advance in robotics shown was a humanoid "cybernetic robot" named "ACTROID", a Japanese design that was unveiled in 2005.[http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-10744-Robot+or+Human%3F+Here%27s+ACTROID.html].
**The ACTROID's appearance in the final scene bookends the first scene of the mini-series in which several "traditional" robotic Cylons appear, following by the first appearance of the attractive humanoid Cylon, Number Six.
*Although many of the magazines on the newsstand appear familiar, close examination reveals that at least some have made-up names. A magazine that appears at first glance to be ''Sports Illustrated'' is actually ''Sports Limited''. Also, although the magazine read by Angel Six and Baltar (and Ronald Moore) closely resembles ''National Geographic'', at no time is the complete title of the magazine or its full logo actually shown on screen; furthermore, the back cover of the magazine is solid yellow whereas actual issues of National Geographic always have advertising on the back cover.
*Initially, Helo and Athena were supposed to die and Hera would be raised by Gaius Baltar and Caprica-Six. This would make sense as in the [[Opera House]] vision Baltar and Caprica-Six take Hera into the Opera House and Athena and Roslin don't make it inside. It also lends well for a symbolical structure of the series: Caprica-Six kills a child at the beginning and raises one at the end, they destroyed one civilisation and then at the end they nurture the foundation of another one.
*Angel Six makes a reference to the Law of Averages: "Let a complex system repeat itself long enough; eventually something surprising might occur." She is actually referring to the Law of Large Numbers. The Law of Averages is a mistaken belief that the outcome of an event is affected by the outcome of previous iterations of the same event.
*Dialogue was cut from the final scene between Angel Six and Angel Baltar, but can be heard on the cast read-through podcast. The full dialogue of the scene is the same up until Baltar states that "It (God) doesn't like to be called that," but then changes with Baltar discussing having a wager on the matter (humanity's survival this time around) with Six, who looks disgusted at the notion. Baltar then smiles and says "Silly, silly me," and they walk off as in the broadcast version.
*As with Part I, the episode does not include the regular opening credits and theme. It does begin with the standard "Previously on Battlestar Galactica" sequence, and the honor of speaking these words in the final episode is given to Edward James Olmos.

Survivor count

2009-02-15T05:31:18Z

Hadri:

:''This article involves the survivor count of the refugees in the [[Re-imagined Series]]. For a count of losses and gains in the Fleet incurred during the [[Original Series]], see: [[Fleet population]].''

The number of surviving Colonial citizens and military in the fleet was provided at intervals throughout the first season on a whiteboard on ''[[Colonial One]]'', and in one instance spoken aloud in dialogue. In the second season, this number appears in the opening credits of every episode (sometimes jokingly referred to as the "Countdown to Extinction"), and displays limited omniscience, updating itself to reflect the deaths on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] early in that season. This page collects the figures available thus far, cross-referenced with date information from [[Timeline (RDM)]].

==Graph==
[[Image:Survivors.png]]
:''All dates past Day 51 are estimates.''

==Data==

===Season 1===

'''Day 6'''
*'''[[33]]'''
**50,298 - Initial estimate.
**49,998 - Revised count. A decrease of 300.
**49,317 - Second revision. A decrease of 618 (cut scene, DVD).
**47,972 - A loss of 1345 after destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.
**47,973 - One birth aboard the ''[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]''.

'''Day 10'''
*'''[[Water]]'''
**47,958 - A net loss of 15.

'''Day 15'''
*'''[[You Can't Go Home Again]]'''
**47,958 - 13 pilots killed in a hanger deck accident in "[[Act of Contrition]]", but the count is not updated.

'''Day 25'''
*'''[[Flesh and Bone]]'''
**47,954 - A net loss of 4 after deaths of a marine and three crew in "[[Litmus]]", the discovery of [[Ellen Tigh]] one week prior to "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", and the disappearance of [[Shelly Godfrey]] in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]". [[Aaron Doral#Scorpia Traveler copy|Aaron Doral (Scorpia Traveler copy)]] was apparently not included among the fleet's population. The events of "Act of Contrition" have (still) not been accounted for.

'''Day 28'''
*'''[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]'''
**47,905 - A loss of 49. Total stated by Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]], possibly excluding himself and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon Valerii]].

'''Day 48'''
*'''[[Colonial Day]]'''
**47,898 - [[Valance]] is murdered while in custody aboard ''[[Cloud Nine]]''. Four viper pilots killed in "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Two additional unexplained deaths.

'''Day 50'''
*'''[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]'''
**47,897 - One unseen death.

'''Day 51'''
*'''[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]'''
**47,887 - [[Raptor 3]] destroyed over [[Kobol]] with 10 souls aboard.
*'''[[Scattered]]'''
**47,875 - [[Sharon Valerii|"Boomer" Valerii]] is removed from the count after her assassination attempt. Probably includes the death of [[Karma]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]", since the on-screen total appears to include deaths on Kobol. 10 additional unseen deaths.

=== Season 2===

*'''[[Valley of Darkness]]'''
**47,874 - [[Tarn]] shot by Cylon Centurions.
*'''[[Fragged]]'''
**47,862 - [[Flyboy]] killed by Cylon Centurion. [[Socinus]] euthanized by [[Galen Tyrol]]. Additional casualties during Cylon boarding action of ''Galactica''.

'''Day 54 (est.)'''
*'''[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]'''
**47,861 - [[Crashdown]] shot by [[Gaius Baltar]].

'''Day 60 (est.)'''
*'''[[The Farm]]'''
** 47,857 - Four civilians massacred by marine strike team aboard the ''[[Gideon]]''.

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[Home, Part I]]'''
** 47,858 - Return of [[Karl Agathon|Helo]], who was presumed dead. Caprica Valerii is not included in the count.
*'''[[Home, Part II]]'''
** 47,855 - Death of [[Elosha]] and a [[Laura Roslin faction|faction]] [[Wikipedia: Redshirt (character)|redshirt]].
*'''[[Final Cut]]'''
** 47,853 - Death of [[Meier]] and unnamed Tom Zarek henchman in "Home, Part II".

'''Day 86 (est.)
*'''[[Flight of the Phoenix]]'''
** 47,853 - No change since "Final Cut".

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]'''
**49,605 - After the return of the battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', a dramatic increase of 1,752 over the previous count. The change is shown in the opening credits of [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]], since the ship appeared in the "teaser" before the opening credits.
*'''[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]'''
**49,604 - Death of [[Alastair Thorne]].
*'''[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]'''
**49,604 - No change since "Resurrection Ship, Part I".

'''Day 189'''
*'''[[Epiphanies]]'''
** 49,598 - Deaths of Admiral [[Helena Cain]] and an unnamed marine guard on ''Pegasus''. The remaining casualty count of four is conspicuously low given the scope of the [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship|battle]] depicted in the previous episode.

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[Black Market]]'''
**49,597 - The death of a suicide bomber on the ''[[Daru Mozu]]''. Based on dialogue, the attack took the lives of the bomber and at least two civilians. This may have been offset by births in between the two episodes. The death of [[Jack Fisk]] was shown in the teaser of [[Black Market]], and should be counted in the opening credits.
*'''[[Scar]]'''
**49,593 - Deaths of Commander [[Jack Fisk]], Fisk's assassin, [[Phelan]], and one other person, presumably [[Beano]]. It is unclear where the death of Beano, the first of four pilots killed by Scar is counted. Since much of the episode, including the deaths of the four pilots killed by Scar, is shown in flashback.

*'''[[Sacrifice]]'''
**49,590 - Deaths of three pilots killed by Scar: [[Reilly]], [[Brent Baxton|Brent "BB" Baxton]], and [[Joseph Clark|Joseph "Jo-Jo" Clark]].

'''c. Day 210'''
*'''[[The Captain's Hand]]'''
**49,584 - Deaths of [[Sesha Abinell]], [[Kern Vinson]], [[Nelson Page]], [[George Chu]], and two unnamed marines, and [[Billy Keikeya]]. Sesha Abinell's husband Ray was killed during a Cylon attack ten weeks prior to this episode, but it does not appear to have been counted. It may have been offset by a birth.

'''c. Day 240'''
*'''[[The Captain's Hand]]'''
**49,579 - Deaths of [[Richard Bayer|Buster]], [[Lyla|Shark]], the two-man crew of [[Raptor 314]], and Commander [[Barry Garner]] (seen near the end on the white board).

'''Between c. Day 240 and c. Day 270'''
*'''[[Razor]] ( Present events)'''
**49,579 - confirms closing count from "The Captain's Hand".

'''c. Day 270'''
*'''[[Downloaded]]'''
**49,579 - confirms closing count from "The Captain's Hand". The count is either not updated to reflect the deaths of [[Kendra Shaw]] and [[Dasilva]] in "[[Razor]]" or there were births that offset those deaths.
*'''[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]'''
**49,579 - No change since "[[Downloaded]]". It is unclear how the birth of [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] is counted. Her birth appears to be offset by the death of [[Maya]]'s child. Maya's child seems to be the one seen in the incubator, and whose ashes are spread out of a Raptor by Helo and Tyrol.
'''c. Day 280'''
*'''[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]'''
**49,550 - [[Raptor 612]] jumped into a mountain on Caprica. This could account for four people: A pilot, an ECO, and two marines.

'''During the Settlement of New Caprica (from c. Day 280 to c. Day 660)'''
*'''[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]'''
**After the "One Year Later" time jump later in the episode, the population of New Caprica City is given as 39,192. This includes separated military personnel, but does not include military and civilians in the small fleet orbiting the planet.
*'''[[Precipice]]'''
**According to Lee Adama, about 2,000 civilians escaped with the ships in orbit of New Caprica.
**Adama also states that both ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' are at half strength (this can't be taken literally).
***A careful [[crew tally]] establishes that, at full strength, ''Galactica'' is crewed by about 2,808 people and ''Pegasus'' by about 2,445.
***The same tally indicates that immediately prior to the one-year jump, ''Galactica'' was crewed by about 2,600 people, and ''Pegasus'' by about 1,700. At half-strength, this puts the minimum number of military personnel at about 2,200.
**This puts our estimate of the total human population at roughly 43,400 (39,192 + 2000 + 2200)
**Subtracting from the figure of 49,550 given in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II", this means that the total population fell by about 6150 people during the one-year gap. The majority of these deaths probably happened as a result of the destruction of ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' and the surrounding vessels.
:''For a confirmation of these estimates with more accurate numbers see the "[[Crossroads, Part I]]" section''

=== Season 3===

'''During the Occupation of New Caprica (from c. Day 660 to c. Day 798)'''
*An unknown number of people died in the insurgency and Cylon retaliation. However this must be offset by additional births during this four month time span. Accurately tracking the population numbers is impossible at this point, but known casualty figures are given below:
*'''c. Day 729'''
**'''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]''' - 10 people are killed at the temple, including [[Nora Farmer]].
*'''c. Day 794'''
**'''[[Occupation]]''' - [[Tucker Clellan]] bombs the [[New Caprica Police]] graduation ceremony, killing 33 humans.
*'''c. Day 796'''
**'''[[Precipice]]''' - suicide bombing at the power substation kills 4 humans. Three resistance fighters die in the ambush at [[Breeders Canyon]].
*'''c. Day 798'''
**'''[[Exodus, Part II]]''' - numerous casualties during the evacuation of New Caprica, including [[Maya]].

'''c. Day 800'''
*'''[[Collaborators]]'''
**41,435 - Fleet population as of the third day of the Second Exodus. Given the above numbers, the death toll of the resistance and the [[Battle of New Caprica]] is about 2000 people. Given the total in the next episode, this figure does not reflect the 13 collaborators executed by the [[Circle]] between this episode and the last.
**Several hundred children might have been born on New Caprica. Since they are also included in the count, the Fleet has lost more older and able-bodied people than apparent.

'''c. Day 830'''
*'''[[Torn]]'''
**41,422 - Figure now reflects the 13 collaborators executed by the [[Circle]]. No deaths occur in this episode.

'''c. Day 831'''
*'''[[A Measure of Salvation]]'''
**41,420 - Two unseen deaths.

'''c. Day 935'''
*'''[[Hero]]'''
**41,421 - [[Daniel Novacek|Daniel "Bulldog" Novacek]] escapes from Cylon custody and joins the population of the fleet.

'''c. Day 950'''
*'''[[Unfinished Business]]'''
**41,422 - One birth.

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[The Passage]]'''
**41,420 - Two unseen deaths.

*'''[[The Eye of Jupiter]]'''
**41,402 - Eighteen deaths from radiation exposure, including the skeleton crews of the ''[[Adriatic]]'' and the ''[[Carina]]''. This also includes [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne Katraine]].

*'''[[Rapture]]'''
**41,401 - One unseen death.

*'''[[Taking a Break from All Your Worries]]'''
**41,403 - Deaths of [[Hillard]] and [[Omar Fischer]]. [[Hera Agathon]], [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]] join the Fleet's population, in addition to one possible birth.

*'''[[The Woman King]]'''
**41,401 - Two unseen deaths.

*'''[[A Day in the Life]]'''
**41,398 - Deaths of [[Willie King]] and two other Sagittarons; possibly more if offset by births.

*'''[[Dirty Hands]]'''
**41,400 - Two births.

*'''[[Maelstrom]]'''
**41,400 - No net change.

*'''[[The Son Also Rises]]'''
**41,399 - Death of [[Kara Thrace]] in the prior episode, and [[Alan Hughes]] at the end of this episode's teaser. Hughes' death is either not counted, offset by a birth, or Thrace's death is not counted.

*'''[[Crossroads, Part I]]'''
**Unknown, as there is no intro for this episode.
**The following numbers are given during Baltar's trial by [[Cassidy]]: 44,035 - the number who settled on New Caprica; 38,838 - the number the day after the escape. However the number of escapees can only refer to the ''civilian'' population of the Fleet, and despite talking specifically about the people who settled on New Caprica, this number includes the ''total'' population, including those in orbit.
**This contradictory wording is a writing error, but interpreting them slightly differently confirms the estimates from "[[Precipice]]":
***41,435 (Collaborators) - 38,838 = 2,597 (the military personnel in the Fleet)
***44,035 - 39,192 (the inhabitants of [[New Caprica City]]) = 4,835 (the total population left in orbit)
***4,835 - 2,597 = 2,238 (in "Precipice" Lee Adama refers to roughly 2,000 civilians who escaped New Caprica)
***49,550 (count in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]") - 39,192 - 4,835 = 5,523 (the death toll prior to the occupation, mostly incurred with the destruction of ''[[Cloud Nine]]'')
***49,550 - 5,523 - 41,435 = 2,592 (the causalities of the Cylon occupation and the [[Battle of New Caprica|escape from New Caprica]])
:'''Note:''' While this number of military personnel fits with the estimate about their strength during the settlement of New Caprica, it still does not fit with the depiction of overcrowding on ''Galactica'' after the escape from the planet and the destruction of ''Pegasus'', since the battlestar was crewed with approximately 2,600 people to begin with. The number of civilians should therefore be lower.

*'''[[Crossroads, Part II]]'''
**Unknown, as there is no intro for this episode.

=== Season 4===

*'''[[He That Believeth In Me]]'''
**39,698 - A loss of [[Numerology#1701|1,701]], accounting for the ca. 600 deaths on ''[[Pyxis]]'', and ca. additional 1,100 deaths on other ships damaged during the [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula]], such as the ''[[Zephyr]]'' and ''[[Astral Queen]]''. The assumed dead [[Kara Thrace]] returns, presumably increasing the number by one.

*'''[[Six of One]]'''
**39,676 - 22 unaccounted for deaths from the previous episode. These may be people who were wounded in the battle, but died of their injuries later.

*'''[[The Ties That Bind]]'''
**39,676 - No change. [[Cally Tyrol]] dies during the course of the episode.

*'''[[Escape Velocity]]'''
**39,675 - Cally Tyrol's death is accounted for.

*'''[[The Road Less Traveled]]'''
**39,676 - An increase of one; likely a birth in the Fleet. Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]] dies during the episode.

*'''[[Faith]]'''
**39,675 - Mathias's death is accounted for. [[Jean Barolay]] and [[Emily Kowalski]] die during the episode.

*'''[[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]'''
**39,673 - Barolay's and Kowalski's deaths are counted.

*'''[[Sine Qua Non]]'''
**39,674 - An unexplained increase by one. During the episode [[Eammon Pike]] is found the dead in the Raptor and several pilots were likely killed in the battle at the [[Resurrection Hub]].

*'''[[The Hub]]'''
**39,673 - A decrease of one, possibly counting Pike's death. However, the episode takes place concurrently with "Sine Qua Non" and Pike only dies later in the episode.

*'''[[Revelations]]'''
**39,665 - A decrease of eight, likely accounting for the Colonial casualties during the [[Battle of the Resurrection Hub]].

*'''[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]'''
**39,651 - A decrease of fourteen. Accounting for the unnamed pilot executed by [[D'Anna Biers|D'Anna]] in "[[Revelations]]", and thirteen additional unexplained deaths.
**39,650 - [[Anastasia Dualla]] commits suicide.

*'''[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]'''
**39,644 - A loss of six. [[Esrin|Ensign "Easy" Esrin]], [[J. Finnegan|Lieutenant J. "Shark" Finnegan]], and [[Brooks|Specialist Brooks]] are murdered by "[[Number Eight|Sweet Eight]]" aboard [[Raptor 718]], and three possible suicides. 2 marines die in the course of the episode.

*'''[[The Oath]]'''
**39,643 - A loss of one.

*'''[[Blood on the Scales]]'''
** 39,603 - A loss of 40. Probably casualties of [[Gaeta's Mutiny|Felix Gaeta and Tom Zarek's coup d'etat]]. Chief [[Peter Laird]], [[Maldonaldo|Lance Corporal Maldonaldo]] are among the slain.

*'''[[No Exit]]'''
** 39,556 - A loss of 47, including eleven members of the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]], [[Parr]], [[Tom Zarek]] and [[Felix Gaeta]], and other probable casualties of the coup.

==Analysis==
*The detonation of a nuclear warhead on ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' by the [[Number Six]] copy, [[Gina]], is the first time a ship has been destroyed since the destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.
*The ships ''[[Adriatic]]'' and ''[[Carina]]'' are also destroyed in "[[The Passage]]", however with only skeleton crews aboard.
*Since the end of "[[33]]", the Fleet's population has been dying off at a fairly steady rate of approximately 2.1 persons per day. At this rate, the Fleet would be completely depopulated within a few decades.
*First season survivor counts are available from [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin's]] whiteboard aboard ''[[Colonial One]]''. Second season survivor counts are included in the opening titles, as well as the presidential whiteboard.
*In "[[The Captain's Hand]]" (roughly in the region of Day 250-60), Dr. Baltar estimated that (factoring in the arrival of ''Pegasus''), given the survivor count's current rate of decline, never increasing, the human race will simply go extinct in 18 years. If this refers only to excess mortality, it would mean an average rate of roughly 7.5 people a day. It may be that Baltar's estimate considered more factors, such as labor shortages resulting in famine, which would complicate this model, resulting in the death rate exponentially increasing over time.
*The loss of 8,115 people between "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]" and "[[Collaborators]]" is the highest net loss from one opening title count to another.

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Survivor count

2009-02-15T05:28:59Z

Hadri:

:''This article involves the survivor count of the refugees in the [[Re-imagined Series]]. For a count of losses and gains in the Fleet incurred during the [[Original Series]], see: [[Fleet population]].''

The number of surviving Colonial citizens and military in the fleet was provided at intervals throughout the first season on a whiteboard on ''[[Colonial One]]'', and in one instance spoken aloud in dialogue. In the second season, this number appears in the opening credits of every episode (sometimes jokingly referred to as the "Countdown to Extinction"), and displays limited omniscience, updating itself to reflect the deaths on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] early in that season. This page collects the figures available thus far, cross-referenced with date information from [[Timeline (RDM)]].

==Graph==
[[Image:Survivors.png]]
:''All dates past Day 51 are estimates.''

==Data==

===Season 1===

'''Day 6'''
*'''[[33]]'''
**50,298 - Initial estimate.
**49,998 - Revised count. A decrease of 300.
**49,317 - Second revision. A decrease of 618 (cut scene, DVD).
**47,972 - A loss of 1345 after destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.
**47,973 - One birth aboard the ''[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]''.

'''Day 10'''
*'''[[Water]]'''
**47,958 - A net loss of 15.

'''Day 15'''
*'''[[You Can't Go Home Again]]'''
**47,958 - 13 pilots killed in a hanger deck accident in "[[Act of Contrition]]", but the count is not updated.

'''Day 25'''
*'''[[Flesh and Bone]]'''
**47,954 - A net loss of 4 after deaths of a marine and three crew in "[[Litmus]]", the discovery of [[Ellen Tigh]] one week prior to "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", and the disappearance of [[Shelly Godfrey]] in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]". [[Aaron Doral#Scorpia Traveler copy|Aaron Doral (Scorpia Traveler copy)]] was apparently not included among the fleet's population. The events of "Act of Contrition" have (still) not been accounted for.

'''Day 28'''
*'''[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]'''
**47,905 - A loss of 49. Total stated by Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]], possibly excluding himself and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Sharon Valerii]].

'''Day 48'''
*'''[[Colonial Day]]'''
**47,898 - [[Valance]] is murdered while in custody aboard ''[[Cloud Nine]]''. Four viper pilots killed in "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Two additional unexplained deaths.

'''Day 50'''
*'''[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]'''
**47,897 - One unseen death.

'''Day 51'''
*'''[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]'''
**47,887 - [[Raptor 3]] destroyed over [[Kobol]] with 10 souls aboard.
*'''[[Scattered]]'''
**47,875 - [[Sharon Valerii|"Boomer" Valerii]] is removed from the count after her assassination attempt. Probably includes the death of [[Karma]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]", since the on-screen total appears to include deaths on Kobol. 10 additional unseen deaths.

=== Season 2===

*'''[[Valley of Darkness]]'''
**47,874 - [[Tarn]] shot by Cylon Centurions.
*'''[[Fragged]]'''
**47,862 - [[Flyboy]] killed by Cylon Centurion. [[Socinus]] euthanized by [[Galen Tyrol]]. Additional casualties during Cylon boarding action of ''Galactica''.

'''Day 54 (est.)'''
*'''[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]'''
**47,861 - [[Crashdown]] shot by [[Gaius Baltar]].

'''Day 60 (est.)'''
*'''[[The Farm]]'''
** 47,857 - Four civilians massacred by marine strike team aboard the ''[[Gideon]]''.

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[Home, Part I]]'''
** 47,858 - Return of [[Karl Agathon|Helo]], who was presumed dead. Caprica Valerii is not included in the count.
*'''[[Home, Part II]]'''
** 47,855 - Death of [[Elosha]] and a [[Laura Roslin faction|faction]] [[Wikipedia: Redshirt (character)|redshirt]].
*'''[[Final Cut]]'''
** 47,853 - Death of [[Meier]] and unnamed Tom Zarek henchman in "Home, Part II".

'''Day 86 (est.)
*'''[[Flight of the Phoenix]]'''
** 47,853 - No change since "Final Cut".

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]'''
**49,605 - After the return of the battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', a dramatic increase of 1,752 over the previous count. The change is shown in the opening credits of [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]], since the ship appeared in the "teaser" before the opening credits.
*'''[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]'''
**49,604 - Death of [[Alastair Thorne]].
*'''[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]'''
**49,604 - No change since "Resurrection Ship, Part I".

'''Day 189'''
*'''[[Epiphanies]]'''
** 49,598 - Deaths of Admiral [[Helena Cain]] and an unnamed marine guard on ''Pegasus''. The remaining casualty count of four is conspicuously low given the scope of the [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship|battle]] depicted in the previous episode.

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[Black Market]]'''
**49,597 - The death of a suicide bomber on the ''[[Daru Mozu]]''. Based on dialogue, the attack took the lives of the bomber and at least two civilians. This may have been offset by births in between the two episodes. The death of [[Jack Fisk]] was shown in the teaser of [[Black Market]], and should be counted in the opening credits.
*'''[[Scar]]'''
**49,593 - Deaths of Commander [[Jack Fisk]], Fisk's assassin, [[Phelan]], and one other person, presumably [[Beano]]. It is unclear where the death of Beano, the first of four pilots killed by Scar is counted. Since much of the episode, including the deaths of the four pilots killed by Scar, is shown in flashback.

*'''[[Sacrifice]]'''
**49,590 - Deaths of three pilots killed by Scar: [[Reilly]], [[Brent Baxton|Brent "BB" Baxton]], and [[Joseph Clark|Joseph "Jo-Jo" Clark]].

'''c. Day 210'''
*'''[[The Captain's Hand]]'''
**49,584 - Deaths of [[Sesha Abinell]], [[Kern Vinson]], [[Nelson Page]], [[George Chu]], and two unnamed marines, and [[Billy Keikeya]]. Sesha Abinell's husband Ray was killed during a Cylon attack ten weeks prior to this episode, but it does not appear to have been counted. It may have been offset by a birth.

'''c. Day 240'''
*'''[[The Captain's Hand]]'''
**49,579 - Deaths of [[Richard Bayer|Buster]], [[Lyla|Shark]], the two-man crew of [[Raptor 314]], and Commander [[Barry Garner]] (seen near the end on the white board).

'''Between c. Day 240 and c. Day 270'''
*'''[[Razor]] ( Present events)'''
**49,579 - confirms closing count from "The Captain's Hand".

'''c. Day 270'''
*'''[[Downloaded]]'''
**49,579 - confirms closing count from "The Captain's Hand". The count is either not updated to reflect the deaths of [[Kendra Shaw]] and [[Dasilva]] in "[[Razor]]" or there were births that offset those deaths.
*'''[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]'''
**49,579 - No change since "[[Downloaded]]". It is unclear how the birth of [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] is counted. Her birth appears to be offset by the death of [[Maya]]'s child. Maya's child seems to be the one seen in the incubator, and whose ashes are spread out of a Raptor by Helo and Tyrol.
'''c. Day 280'''
*'''[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]'''
**49,550 - [[Raptor 612]] jumped into a mountain on Caprica. This could account for four people: A pilot, an ECO, and two marines.

'''During the Settlement of New Caprica (from c. Day 280 to c. Day 660)'''
*'''[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]'''
**After the "One Year Later" time jump later in the episode, the population of New Caprica City is given as 39,192. This includes separated military personnel, but does not include military and civilians in the small fleet orbiting the planet.
*'''[[Precipice]]'''
**According to Lee Adama, about 2,000 civilians escaped with the ships in orbit of New Caprica.
**Adama also states that both ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' are at half strength (this can't be taken literally).
***A careful [[crew tally]] establishes that, at full strength, ''Galactica'' is crewed by about 2,808 people and ''Pegasus'' by about 2,445.
***The same tally indicates that immediately prior to the one-year jump, ''Galactica'' was crewed by about 2,600 people, and ''Pegasus'' by about 1,700. At half-strength, this puts the minimum number of military personnel at about 2,200.
**This puts our estimate of the total human population at roughly 43,400 (39,192 + 2000 + 2200)
**Subtracting from the figure of 49,550 given in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II", this means that the total population fell by about 6150 people during the one-year gap. The majority of these deaths probably happened as a result of the destruction of ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' and the surrounding vessels.
:''For a confirmation of these estimates with more accurate numbers see the "[[Crossroads, Part I]]" section''

=== Season 3===

'''During the Occupation of New Caprica (from c. Day 660 to c. Day 798)'''
*An unknown number of people died in the insurgency and Cylon retaliation. However this must be offset by additional births during this four month time span. Accurately tracking the population numbers is impossible at this point, but known casualty figures are given below:
*'''c. Day 729'''
**'''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]''' - 10 people are killed at the temple, including [[Nora Farmer]].
*'''c. Day 794'''
**'''[[Occupation]]''' - [[Tucker Clellan]] bombs the [[New Caprica Police]] graduation ceremony, killing 33 humans.
*'''c. Day 796'''
**'''[[Precipice]]''' - suicide bombing at the power substation kills 4 humans. Three resistance fighters die in the ambush at [[Breeders Canyon]].
*'''c. Day 798'''
**'''[[Exodus, Part II]]''' - numerous casualties during the evacuation of New Caprica, including [[Maya]].

'''c. Day 800'''
*'''[[Collaborators]]'''
**41,435 - Fleet population as of the third day of the Second Exodus. Given the above numbers, the death toll of the resistance and the [[Battle of New Caprica]] is about 2000 people. Given the total in the next episode, this figure does not reflect the 13 collaborators executed by the [[Circle]] between this episode and the last.
**Several hundred children might have been born on New Caprica. Since they are also included in the count, the Fleet has lost more older and able-bodied people than apparent.

'''c. Day 830'''
*'''[[Torn]]'''
**41,422 - Figure now reflects the 13 collaborators executed by the [[Circle]]. No deaths occur in this episode.

'''c. Day 831'''
*'''[[A Measure of Salvation]]'''
**41,420 - Two unseen deaths.

'''c. Day 935'''
*'''[[Hero]]'''
**41,421 - [[Daniel Novacek|Daniel "Bulldog" Novacek]] escapes from Cylon custody and joins the population of the fleet.

'''c. Day 950'''
*'''[[Unfinished Business]]'''
**41,422 - One birth.

'''Dates Unknown'''
*'''[[The Passage]]'''
**41,420 - Two unseen deaths.

*'''[[The Eye of Jupiter]]'''
**41,402 - Eighteen deaths from radiation exposure, including the skeleton crews of the ''[[Adriatic]]'' and the ''[[Carina]]''. This also includes [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne Katraine]].

*'''[[Rapture]]'''
**41,401 - One unseen death.

*'''[[Taking a Break from All Your Worries]]'''
**41,403 - Deaths of [[Hillard]] and [[Omar Fischer]]. [[Hera Agathon]], [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]] join the Fleet's population, in addition to one possible birth.

*'''[[The Woman King]]'''
**41,401 - Two unseen deaths.

*'''[[A Day in the Life]]'''
**41,398 - Deaths of [[Willie King]] and two other Sagittarons; possibly more if offset by births.

*'''[[Dirty Hands]]'''
**41,400 - Two births.

*'''[[Maelstrom]]'''
**41,400 - No net change.

*'''[[The Son Also Rises]]'''
**41,399 - Death of [[Kara Thrace]] in the prior episode, and [[Alan Hughes]] at the end of this episode's teaser. Hughes' death is either not counted, offset by a birth, or Thrace's death is not counted.

*'''[[Crossroads, Part I]]'''
**Unknown, as there is no intro for this episode.
**The following numbers are given during Baltar's trial by [[Cassidy]]: 44,035 - the number who settled on New Caprica; 38,838 - the number the day after the escape. However the number of escapees can only refer to the ''civilian'' population of the Fleet, and despite talking specifically about the people who settled on New Caprica, this number includes the ''total'' population, including those in orbit.
**This contradictory wording is a writing error, but interpreting them slightly differently confirms the estimates from "[[Precipice]]":
***41,435 (Collaborators) - 38,838 = 2,597 (the military personnel in the Fleet)
***44,035 - 39,192 (the inhabitants of [[New Caprica City]]) = 4,835 (the total population left in orbit)
***4,835 - 2,597 = 2,238 (in "Precipice" Lee Adama refers to roughly 2,000 civilians who escaped New Caprica)
***49,550 (count in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]") - 39,192 - 4,835 = 5,523 (the death toll prior to the occupation, mostly incurred with the destruction of ''[[Cloud Nine]]'')
***49,550 - 5,523 - 41,435 = 2,592 (the causalities of the Cylon occupation and the [[Battle of New Caprica|escape from New Caprica]])
:'''Note:''' While this number of military personnel fits with the estimate about their strength during the settlement of New Caprica, it still does not fit with the depiction of overcrowding on ''Galactica'' after the escape from the planet and the destruction of ''Pegasus'', since the battlestar was crewed with approximately 2,600 people to begin with. The number of civilians should therefore be lower.

*'''[[Crossroads, Part II]]'''
**Unknown, as there is no intro for this episode.

=== Season 4===

*'''[[He That Believeth In Me]]'''
**39,698 - A loss of [[Numerology#1701|1,701]], accounting for the ca. 600 deaths on ''[[Pyxis]]'', and ca. additional 1,100 deaths on other ships damaged during the [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula]], such as the ''[[Zephyr]]'' and ''[[Astral Queen]]''. The assumed dead [[Kara Thrace]] returns, presumably increasing the number by one.

*'''[[Six of One]]'''
**39,676 - 22 unaccounted for deaths from the previous episode. These may be people who were wounded in the battle, but died of their injuries later.

*'''[[The Ties That Bind]]'''
**39,676 - No change. [[Cally Tyrol]] dies during the course of the episode.

*'''[[Escape Velocity]]'''
**39,675 - Cally Tyrol's death is accounted for.

*'''[[The Road Less Traveled]]'''
**39,676 - An increase of one; likely a birth in the Fleet. Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]] dies during the episode.

*'''[[Faith]]'''
**39,675 - Mathias's death is accounted for. [[Jean Barolay]] and [[Emily Kowalski]] die during the episode.

*'''[[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]'''
**39,673 - Barolay's and Kowalski's deaths are counted.

*'''[[Sine Qua Non]]'''
**39,674 - An unexplained increase by one. During the episode [[Eammon Pike]] is found the dead in the Raptor and several pilots were likely killed in the battle at the [[Resurrection Hub]].

*'''[[The Hub]]'''
**39,673 - A decrease of one, possibly counting Pike's death. However, the episode takes place concurrently with "Sine Qua Non" and Pike only dies later in the episode.

*'''[[Revelations]]'''
**39,665 - A decrease of eight, likely accounting for the Colonial casualties during the [[Battle of the Resurrection Hub]].

*'''[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]'''
**39,651 - A decrease of fourteen. Accounting for the unnamed pilot executed by [[D'Anna Biers|D'Anna]] in "[[Revelations]]", and thirteen additional unexplained deaths.
**39,650 - [[Anastasia Dualla]] commits suicide.

*'''[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]'''
**39,644 - A loss of six. [[Esrin|Ensign "Easy" Esrin]], [[J. Finnegan|Lieutenant J. "Shark" Finnegan]], and [[Brooks|Specialist Brooks]] are murdered by "[[Number Eight|Sweet Eight]]" aboard [[Raptor 718]], and three possible suicides. 2 marines die in the course of the episode.

*'''[[The Oath]]'''
**39,643 - A loss of one.

*'''[[Blood on the Scales]]'''
** 39,603 - A loss of 40. Probably casualties of [[Gaeta's Mutiny|Felix Gaeta and Tom Zarek's coup d'etat]]. Chief [[Peter Laird]], [[Maldonaldo|Lance Corporal Maldonaldo]] are among the slain.

*'''[[No Exit]]'''
** 39,556 - A loss of 47, including the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)]], [[Parr]], [[Tom Zarek]] and [[Felix Gaeta]], and other probable casualties of the coup.

==Analysis==
*The detonation of a nuclear warhead on ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' by the [[Number Six]] copy, [[Gina]], is the first time a ship has been destroyed since the destruction of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]''.
*The ships ''[[Adriatic]]'' and ''[[Carina]]'' are also destroyed in "[[The Passage]]", however with only skeleton crews aboard.
*Since the end of "[[33]]", the Fleet's population has been dying off at a fairly steady rate of approximately 2.1 persons per day. At this rate, the Fleet would be completely depopulated within a few decades.
*First season survivor counts are available from [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin's]] whiteboard aboard ''[[Colonial One]]''. Second season survivor counts are included in the opening titles, as well as the presidential whiteboard.
*In "[[The Captain's Hand]]" (roughly in the region of Day 250-60), Dr. Baltar estimated that (factoring in the arrival of ''Pegasus''), given the survivor count's current rate of decline, never increasing, the human race will simply go extinct in 18 years. If this refers only to excess mortality, it would mean an average rate of roughly 7.5 people a day. It may be that Baltar's estimate considered more factors, such as labor shortages resulting in famine, which would complicate this model, resulting in the death rate exponentially increasing over time.
*The loss of 8,115 people between "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]" and "[[Collaborators]]" is the highest net loss from one opening title count to another.

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