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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* Chinatown in Caprica City? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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== The One True God ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was wondering, was it ever established on BSG where the notion of the existence of a One True God ever came from, or is that a lingering question that Caprica might still answer?&lt;br /&gt;
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Like, who was the first person who believed in the existence of a OTG?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:24, 30 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not yet. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I doubt we&#039;ll see the specific origin. Just like in reality, the belief in a singular god can&#039;t really be traced back beyond a general time frame, even then, based only on archival data. It&#039;s got to be an idea that sprung forth from people trying to grasp onto an understanding of life and the universe, shedding old ideas in hopes of a better way, and can&#039;t be pinpointed anymore accurately than the idea of gods in general. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 23:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The original character description for Sister Clarice before the Pilot was released mentioned &amp;quot;the results of her studies into the scriptures&amp;quot;, but that&#039;s not canon yet. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I remember that Elosha made a reference to a jealous God on Kobol who led to the eventual exodus from that planet. Hopefully that will be explored more deeply on Caprica. At one point it was assumed that the Temple of Five had been built by the Final Five, but now that we know that was not so, it leaves  the question of who the five priests who worshiped &amp;quot;the one whose name cannot be spoken&amp;quot; really were. That&#039;s another question I hope Caprica answers. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 02:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::That was a deleted scene. Strange how everyone remembers that one. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 04:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::It helps that this site keeps a record of it, lol. Sometimes when I read the sentence from those pages on this site I do feel like I actually saw it on screen. Maybe the version of the episode that aired were I am had the scene. I just can&#039;t remember, it&#039;s been awhile.--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 13:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Or you saw it in the DVD deleted scenes collection? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I don&#039;t have the DVDs :)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:35, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cast list==&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone have the names from the closing credits? I could usually decipher them from the &#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039; airings (with some help from educated guessing), but one of the additional changes that came when they switched to &amp;quot;Syfy&amp;quot; is they crunched the credits even more, so I cannot make out any name. Nothing. Is there anyone who has the unobscured version and would like to share? --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 23:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Twin Peaks reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While having not seen the show (I&#039;ve seen David Lynch&#039;s movies), my friend [[User:Blue cadet84|Blue cadet84]] said the video of [[Lacy Rand|Lacy]] and [[Zoe Graystone|Zoe]] is a reference to &#039;&#039;[[w:Twin Peaks|Twin Peaks]]&#039;&#039;. Is there director commentary or anything to confirm this?--[[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 20:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chinatown in Caprica City? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why were the producers so sloppy as to show some sort of Chinatown in Caprica City? We know colonials don&#039;t care about race, they only care about your colony of origin. It&#039;s possible there are entire neighbourhoods of Tauron immigrants, but why would they all be Asian when we know Taurons are as ethnically diverse as any other colony? Why do they have Asian characters on their shops, are they supposed to be &amp;quot;Old Tauronese&amp;quot; (the language the gangsters sometimes use) because I was under the impression English, with the Latin script, was the standard language of all the colonies?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 23:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Just wondering why a super advanced civilization would still use fuzzy magnetic tapes for security camera&#039;s...&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 22:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Just wondering why a super advanced civilization would still use fuzzy magnetic tapes for security camera&#039;s...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* Caprica Promo on SciFi.com */&lt;/p&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; leaked on torrent sites as of april 14 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The 2 hour Caprica pilot is available for download from numerous torrenting sites and it&#039;s for real.&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=caprica&amp;amp;cat=0&lt;br /&gt;
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== &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; Promo on SciFi.com ==&lt;br /&gt;
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SciFi.com has the first 1 and 1/2 minute promo for &#039;&#039;[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]&#039;&#039; [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?clip=4&amp;amp;sub=specials here].&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Caprica&amp;quot; to air on SkyOne &amp;amp; SkyOne HD in November 2008 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In a [http://www.skypressoffice.co.uk/SkyOne/news/showarticle.asp?id=2528&amp;amp;month=8&amp;amp;year=2008 press release] issued by SkyOne on August 6, 2008, SkyOne announces that it has acquired rights to air the 2-hour movie on both SkyOne and SkyOne HD. It also gives the tentative date of November 2008 for its airing.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Daybreak, Part II/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* (Un)answered questions) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;  The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons?  Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?  Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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12) Since all the fleet&#039;s decisions after the Ellen&#039;s reapperarance have been about breaking the cycle, is Lee afraid that by having superior technology on earth the cylons and colonials would &amp;quot;enslave&amp;quot; the native population, creating yet another cycle? &lt;br /&gt;
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-- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.  -- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away.  And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified.  And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power.  I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped.  Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)  -- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions.  From the surface, not from space.  M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction).  The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection (Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol).  That was how they escaped.  -- [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.)  -- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article:  “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==== What Precisely Killed [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] and [[Hamish McCall|Skulls]]? ====&lt;br /&gt;
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The Marines in the rear of the cabin were killed by explosive decompression and vacuum exposure, but Racetrack and Skulls were in sealed pressure suits.  I don&#039;t recall seeing suit damage in that quick shot of Margaret&#039;s hand falling on the missile-launch button.  Did the one penetrating rock cause invisible crushing injuries to both of them?  It didn&#039;t look big enough to hit both of them square on.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 08:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Skulls whas hit in his face or chest by the rock and there was a small hole in Racetrack&#039;s helmet when her hand fell on the button.--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 00:13, 27 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==== [[Delphi]] ====&lt;br /&gt;
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In the episode &amp;quot;[[Downloaded]]&amp;quot; the cylons were rebuilding the Caprican city of [[Delphi]] and living in it.  Was this effort completely abandoned when the Cylons decided to occupy [[New Caprica]]?  Or has the effort to recover [[Caprica_(RDM)|Caprica]] continued all this time and is it still occupied?  Are there still a substantial number of human-Cylons living on Caprica?  Will it become like first Earth before their holocaust, an entirely Cylon-populated society?  Are any humans stragglers left alive on either Caprica or New Caprica?  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 09:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They likely did leave the colonies after [[Downloaded]], there may still be some baseships out there, but the cylons on them are aging and cannot procreate. Even if they found Earth within their lifetimes a handful of basestars probably don&#039;t have enough nukes to obliterate the Earth&#039;s surface, that is assuming they&#039;ll actually know humans are living on Earth: it&#039;s pretty hard to find a stone age culture or neolithic society from space, even when you&#039;re actively looking for them (sure the colonials found one tribe, but in order to kill all humans with a limited number of nukes you&#039;d have to know the positions of every tribe on Earth.)&lt;br /&gt;
There may be human survivors left on the colonies but it&#039;s unlikely: sure, they may have survived the nukes and the radiation, but the cylons actively hunted them down, probably to populations too small to repopulate the planets.--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 00:13, 27 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated.  She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There&#039;s still &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there&#039;s a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There&#039;s still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s interesting. I don&#039;t expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let&#039;s hope so, though I don&#039;t expect they will reveal much more about the divine powers or the angels, ever. It would take away the mystery and the sense that there is something bigger than us (humans and cylons), now we are left wondering if the divine power is a God, or just a very advanced race (maybe the perpetrators (or their descendents) of the first holocaust during the first cycle are feeling guilty) and I think that&#039;s how Ron Moore intended it to be. However, &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; may reveal more about colonial history: what happened to Kobol, how did humans move from Kobol to the colonies, why was that history almost completely forgotten (was there a colonial dark age) and who or what were the Lords of Kobol? --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I&#039;m sure that many people would agree, or at least theorize, that the virtual beings are Moore&#039;s version of the beings of light from the Ship of Lights, especially considering what happened to Kara, which I&#039;ve seen (here or elsewhere, I forget) compared to what happened to the Starbuck from the original series on the last episode of Galactica 80. I think that the reason why Moore must have decided to leave things vague is that he didn&#039;t want to &amp;quot;cheapen it&amp;quot; by introducing something like the Ship of Lights into his show, which was more realistic than the original version. Now that I think about it, when Baltar tells Six that &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t like to be called God, it could be that &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; is the Ship of Lights or whatever version of it that exist in this version of the story. It would be cool if there was more exploration of this in Caprica, as well as further exploration of the &amp;quot;jealous God&amp;quot; from Kobol (which I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll hear more of due to this headmistress in Caprica who doesn&#039;t believe in the Lords of Kobol) and all the other lingering questions from the show. In fact, given that religion is an important aspect of Caprica as it was in BSG (RDM) I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if we saw more of this down the line. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 17:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Hi, guys. Here&#039;s my two cents, since I&#039;m the Senior Chief that added the special notice. &amp;quot;No further significant revelations&amp;quot; means &amp;quot;the story is generally over.&amp;quot; BSG isn&#039;t Star Trek, guys. RDM has stated that there are some elements of the story that he wouldn&#039;t resolve, but that he would resolve the important stuff. Is that etched in stone somewhere? No. I&#039;m sure &#039;&#039;[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]&#039;&#039; may open a few new questions. But until that series debuts, what we have is what we have. Battlestar Wiki allows some speculation because we&#039;re talking about a work of fiction. But to speculate further when no further answers are likely and people are making what&#039;s otherwise original research--that&#039;s [[BW:FANW|fanwanking]], and it&#039;s not allowed on Battlestar Wiki. For the purposes of this episode summary because its so long (and must be), we have to keep focus and not overload the article. Episode summaries are the only articles where questions can be asked (provided they don&#039;t go out of control) but many questions will not be answered. As soon as the noise dies down we can move some pressing questions to [[BW:OC|our special Q&amp;amp;A page answered by BSG co-producer Bradley Thompson]]. In my opinion, the nature of the Virtual Beings and Kara have been answered as far as RDM wanted to do. They are beings of divine source--and folks, religion is one thing that RDM loved to keep close to his chest to add to the BSG mystique. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: I&#039;m not saying that The Plan is going to answer all the unanswered questions, etc. However The Plan has been acknowledged as the coda for this series, and just as important to it as Razor was. However the special notice as I saw it wasn&#039;t just in reference to Daybreak, but to the Wiki in general, and that&#039;s where I think it&#039;s premature. In terms of Daybreak itself, I agree that any additional revelations in The Plan will likely be minor and there are unlikely to be any in Caprica at all relating to that particular episode. But I think questions that come to mind are still worth asking with regards to characters that could be addressed in The Plan. And unless someone has already seen The Plan, or RDM has explicitly stated otherwise, we can&#039;t really predict which characters may or may not be addressed. Something that might be interesting once The Plan airs and is analysed is to go through the episode articles and compile the outstanding questions that the series has left unanswered. I think there will be fewer than some think, with the remainder being just enough to put this series into the same league as &amp;quot;The Prisoner&amp;quot; in that people will still be arguing over &amp;quot;what does it mean&amp;quot; 40 years from now. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 02:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we saw 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The key here was time pressure. Someone had the coordinates, but with the chaos of getting sucked into a black hole, no one could give them to Kara in time before &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; final jump. When all was stable, someone remembered/recalled the Fleet&#039;s coordinates, sent a Raptor, and all was good. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consolidation change ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey everyone!  I just wanted to take a moment to explain the format and consolidation change for Act I.  This change is a test for updating the event summary because:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Each detail does not require a bullet.&lt;br /&gt;
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*However, having bullets between major events makes the summary flow a little better.  This was the approach I used when summarizing [[Daybreak, Part I]].  It gives each scene a sense of distinction, like this example.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are there any other opinions regarding this proposed change?  If it&#039;s OK, I can start work on the other acts. -- [[User:Sgtpayne|Sgtpayne]] 20:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Given the massive data, it&#039;s okay to condense a few points. But keep it to maybe three or four lines condensed. Any larger and it&#039;s hard to follow. Try to keep it looking like the other episode guides as much as possible for consistency. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:57, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks for the working guideline.  As of this writing, Act I &amp;amp; II are done, and starting on the rest.  Hope you guys like it! -- [[User:Sgtpayne|Sgtpayne]] 07:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The robot at the end==&lt;br /&gt;
I corrected an addition in Story Notes that suggested the female robot at the very end is the one that was unveiled only a few days before the broadcast. That would have been very cool, but it&#039;s actually the &amp;quot;Actroid&amp;quot; which was unveiled 4 years ago. Interestingly I found Actroid, a 4-year-old technology, to be more lifelike than the one unveiled last week... [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 02:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The model on the cover of &amp;quot;Sports Limited&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a challenge for those who watched this on HD sets... I&#039;ve heard it suggested that the model on the cover of &amp;quot;Sports Limited&amp;quot; (the SI-like magazine seen on the newsstand) might actually be Tricia Helfer. I can&#039;t tell at all on the computer-screen I&#039;m using, but it might be a neat bit of trivia (not to mention it would open a line of speculation as to whether the Sixes have survived to the present day) if it&#039;s true. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 16:30, 25 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated.  She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There&#039;s still &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there&#039;s a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There&#039;s still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s interesting. I don&#039;t expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let&#039;s hope so, though I don&#039;t expect they will reveal much more about the divine powers or the angels, ever. It would take away the mystery and the sense that there is something bigger than us (humans and cylons), now we are left wondering if the divine power is a God, or just a very advanced race (maybe the perpetrators (or their descendents) of the first holocaust during the first cycle are feeling guilty) and I think that&#039;s how Ron Moore intended it to be. However, &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; may reveal more about colonial history: what happened to Kobol, how did humans move from Kobol to the colonies, why was that history almost completely forgotten (was there a colonial dark age) and who or what were the Lords of Kobol? --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we saw 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot; */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated.  She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There&#039;s still &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there&#039;s a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There&#039;s still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s interesting. I don&#039;t expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let&#039;s hope so, though I don&#039;t expect they will reveal much more about the divine powers or the angels, ever (it would take away the mystery and the sense that there is something bigger than us (humans and cylons), now we are left wondering if the divine power is a God, or just a very advanced race and I think that&#039;s how Ron Moore intended it to be.) However, &#039;&#039;Caprica&#039;&#039; may reveal more about colonial history: what happened to Kobol, how did humans move from Kobol to the colonies, why was that history almost completely forgotten (was there a colonial dark age) and who or what were the Lords of Kobol? --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we saw 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated.  She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There&#039;s still &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there&#039;s a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There&#039;s still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s interesting. I don&#039;t expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let&#039;s hope so, though I don&#039;t expect they will reveal much more about the divine powers or the angels, ever, but especially Caprica may reveal more about colonial history: what happened to Kobol, how did humans move from Kobol to the colonies, why was that history almost completely forgotten (was there a colonial dark age) and who or what were the Lords of Kobol? --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we saw 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot; */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated.  She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There&#039;s still &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there&#039;s a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There&#039;s still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s interesting. I don&#039;t expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let&#039;s hope so, though I don&#039;t expect they will reveal much more about the divine powers or the angels, ever, but especially Caprica may reveal more about colonial history: what happened to Kobol, how did humans move from Kobol to the colonies, why was that history almost completely forgotten (was there a colonial dark age) and who or what were the Lords of Kobol? --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we could see 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated.  She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There&#039;s still &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there&#039;s a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There&#039;s still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s interesting. I don&#039;t expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let&#039;s hope so, though I don&#039;t expect they will reveal much about the divine powers or the angels ever, but especially Caprica may reveal more about colonial history: what happened to Kobol, how did humans move from Kobol to the colonies, why was that history almost completely forgotten (was there a colonial dark age) and who or what were the Lords of Kobol? --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we could see 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated.  She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind.  -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;No Further Significant Revelations...&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There&#039;s still &amp;quot;The Plan&amp;quot;, as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there&#039;s a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There&#039;s still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s interesting. I don&#039;t expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we could see 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Overview  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 1===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The final episode begins with a series of events before before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall]].&lt;br /&gt;
*  In a strip bar in [[Caprica City]], [[William Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh|Saul]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] enjoy themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama questions whether to take a civilian job, rather than to take command of an aged battlestar&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This is a side reference to the events of the episode, &amp;quot;[[Hero]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Over drinks, Adama decides to take the job.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elsewhere on Caprica, [[Lee Adama]] is having dinner with [[Kara Thrace]] and her fiancee, [[Zak Adama]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Zak questions why his brother joined the [[Colonial Forces]], despite Lee&#039;s idealism and his dislike of his father. Lee simply answers that he received college funding in exchange for service.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elsewhere, [[Laura Roslin]] greets her date, [[Sean Allison]], at her home. After realizing he seemed familiar, Roslin finally recalls where she had seen him. Sean was a former student from years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite the age difference, Roslin decides to let him stay the night. &amp;quot;The night&#039;s young. Apparently, so are you,&amp;quot; she says. &amp;quot;Let&#039;s see what happens.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Back at the strip bar, Bill Adama challenges Saul on whether he&#039;d take the civilian desk job. Saul doesn&#039;t answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama and Thrace manage to drag Zak back to the apartment after a night of drinking. But Thrace isn&#039;t done, and pulls out more alcohol for shots between her and Lee.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama is drunkenly sick, vomiting outside somewhere on the street. With a weak smile, he looks up to the stars in the night sky.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scene shifts back to present day on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, where [[Gaius Baltar]] sits in the former home of his [[Cult of Baltar|followers]], now empty.&lt;br /&gt;
* He listens to the [[Virtual Beings|virtual Six]], telling him to trust in [[God (RDM)|God&#039;s plan]] for him. When he asks what that plan is, she tells him that he already following it.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 2=== &lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[sickbay]], Dr. [[Cottle]] (who will not be staying aboard the ship for the battle) leaves assistant [[Layne Ishay]] two injections of heavy medication to allow Laura Roslin enough lucidity and mobility for 48 hours. She thanks him sincerely, causing Cottle to be something he&#039;d rarely been: speechless.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the [[pilot ready room]], [[Karl Agathon]] briefs the [[Raptor]] teams on the special nature of their rescue mission. Despite the odds, all volunteer.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama briefs the [[marines]] on where little Hera would likely be: deep inside the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[The Colony|colony]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama work out the tactics of the battle against the colony. Close-range combat; nuclear weapons and missiles will not be possible for the battlestar. He orders the gun [[battery|batteries]] to fire until exhausted, and after that, &amp;quot;start throwing rocks,&amp;quot; he says with a small smile.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[Final Five]] plan out what they can offer as well. As befitting a cybernetic race, they consider a tactic used by Cylons in the past. They will use [[Samuel Anders]], now effectively a [[Hybrid]] on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, to interface with the Colony and its Hybrids to interrupt their commands, slowing the effectiveness of the Colony&#039;s weapon systems.&lt;br /&gt;
* The catch is that Anders will need to be connected to the [[DRADIS]], fire control and [[C-3]] systems. They plan to take Anders and connect him inside [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama hands over command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to [[Hoshi]], noting that if they aren&#039;t back from the mission in 12 hours, they will never come back.&lt;br /&gt;
* In CIC, Saul Tigh jokes at his old friend at the bizarre sight of a Cylon interfaced to his battlestar, gooey wires and conduit that extend over Adama&#039;s command console everywhere and into the DRADIS console. &amp;quot;Still not too late to flush them all out of the airlock,&amp;quot; Tigh quips. &amp;quot;Take too much time,&amp;quot; Adama answers. &lt;br /&gt;
* With Lee Adama staying for the attack, he appoints [[Romo Lampkin]] as President of the Twelve Colonies. He joins Admiral Hoshi on the last Raptor to leave &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; for the baseship, the Fleet&#039;s new flagship.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar&#039;s followers get in the ship. Baltar enters, but then tells [[Paulla]] that he must stay on the ship. Lee Adama throws Baltar a weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adding to the Battlestar&#039;s attack force, a Number Six leads a large number of [[Cylon Centurion]]s down the [[hangar deck]], some with a red sash painted on them for identification.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 3===&lt;br /&gt;
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* A shot of the Fleet shows that the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] has fully regenerated from its damage from the start of the [[Cylon Civil War]]. It is ready to lead the civilians to safety while &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; goes hunting, retracting its [[flight pod]]s to prep for [[FTL]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama commands a ship-wide readiness report, a sort of countdown.&lt;br /&gt;
* Meanwhile, in sickbay, Layne Ishay prep sickbay for wounded. Laura Roslin assists as best she can.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] are in [[launch tube]]s. The entire Raptor squadron, armed with missiles, have been placed inside the starboard flight pod deck, amidst the ruins of the old [[Galactica Museum]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Gaius Baltar is a soldier protecting the hallways against borders. He is surprised to find [[Caprica-Six]] by his side.&lt;br /&gt;
* In CIC, Ellen Tigh signals that Anders is ready to work.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama gives a final speech, a final understanding and call to arms.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The battlestar jumps only meters from the edge of the Colony--and is immediately besieged by the Cylon batteries.&lt;br /&gt;
* With little time, Sam Anders attempts to make contact with the Colony Hybrids--and takes them offline, apparently by causing them to go into a state of ecstasy. Ellen warns that [[Cylon Raider]]s will appear any minute.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; responds by launching its fighter wings. The Vipers launch, and the Raptors jump directly from within the starboard pod--causing incredible damage to the pod as it vents open--but now placing themselves on the opposite side of the Colony in a flanking position.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama orders the battlestar&#039;s engines at flank speed. He rams the alligator head into the Colony. &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; inhabitants take a beating, but so does the Colony. The Colonials have breeched it, forming an entrance. Lee Adama leads his marines and several Cylon Centurions inside from a front airlock. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sharon Agathon]] and Helo&#039;s Raptor make their way to the Colony&#039;s interior.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Racetrack]] and [[Skulls]] arm their nuclear missiles, presumably to strike the colony after the rescue. But suddenly a piece of debris strikes their Raptor, killing all aboard and leaving the Raptor adrift.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Raptors breech another section of the Colony, and their teams enter.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Deep inside the Colony, a [[Simon]] works on young Hera as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] looks on in disgust. When she questions why he continues to work on Hera, the Simon explains that they maintain and superior force and numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
* Suddenly, Boomer assaults the Simon, snapping his neck. She takes Hera out of the room.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 4===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Colony&#039;s halls are filled with gunfire. Cylon Centurions, including older [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Model 0005s]] fight each other as the Colonial fire teams push through.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cavil]], a [[Number Five]] and another Simon decide to go on the offensive, to attack the battlestar with their troops.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In a hallway in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, ready to repel boarders, Caprica-Six and Baltar come to terms with their old relationship. As they kiss, they hear a Six&#039;s voice. &amp;quot;All of the pieces are falling into place.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* The Virtual Six--&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; the Virtual Baltar--stand above them. To the surprise of Caprica-Six and Baltar, they can hear and see each of the avatars.&lt;br /&gt;
* With a shudder, the battlestar hull is breeched as waves of enemy Centurions, both old-model and modern, pour into the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Agathon&#039;s team find Boomer, holding Hera. She gives the child to them, telling them to tell Admiral Adama that she &amp;quot;owed him one.&amp;quot; With the child safe, Athena shoots Boomer.&lt;br /&gt;
* A flashback scene shows what Boomer meant: a time back in her days on &#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, as Adama and Tigh redress her but give her another chance to be a better pilot.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ishay has her hands full in sickbay, trying to triage and treat as many people as she can. The event is taxing, physically and mentally, for Roslin, as she comforts more dying than not.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama&#039;s team connects with Starbuck&#039;s team, with Hera in tow. When Lee asks where Thrace was, she answers, &amp;quot;Stopped for coffee.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This might be the one time in the history of the series where an obvious joke to [[w:Starbucks Coffee|Starbucks Coffee]] has been used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With their objective complete and no other Colonial troops found, they head back to the battlestar&#039;s alligator-head.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; batteries are being targeted by Raiders. She is losing what little defensive ability she has left. Enemy forces are coming at the reserve forces--where Baltar waits.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 5===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Caprica-Six and Baltar hold off the enemy Centurions. Baltar&#039;s passion at killing Centurions gets a bit out of control as Lee Adama&#039;s team reenter the battlestar with Hera. As more enemies appear, Lee and Baltar fire away.&lt;br /&gt;
* Laura Roslin sits and experiences yet another vision of the [[Opera House]] and little Hera. Struggling to walk, driven by something she can&#039;t fully realize, she gets up to find Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
* Starbuck leads the Agathons through the hallways, but a Number Five appears from behind, seriously wounding Helo in the leg and killing a marine before Starbuck eliminates him. A damaged, but still functioning enemy Centurion shows up and in the confusion, Hera runs away. Athena runs after her at the request of her wounded husband.&lt;br /&gt;
* Hera walks amidst the gunfighting, when soon she encounters Roslin, who pulls out of the path of an enemy patrol and to safety. But when Roslin turns back to the child, she is gone again.&lt;br /&gt;
* Caprica-Six and Baltar are running, and are out of ammo. Suddenly they see Hera, as well as Roslin and Athena--all grouped together as in the Opera House vision. Caprica-Six scoops up the child and enters a hallway, closing the hatchway, preventing Athena and Roslin from following. The opera house vision had Caprica-Six and Baltar closing the door on boht Athena and Roslin after picking up Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
* As the scene shifts between visions of the Opera House and the corridors, Baltar and Caprica-Six realize what they must do:  follow their vision into the Opera House--which turns out to be CIC, where the Final Five reside, overlooking the lower deck of CIC as they appeared in the vision, standing above.&lt;br /&gt;
*  Adama and his men have apparently just finished defending the CIC from a break-in by Cavil, a Doral and a Simon.  The Doral and the Simon are dead, and Cavil is under guard. An explosion rocks the CIC, and Cavil picks up a gun and grabs Hera as a shield.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar pleads for the child&#039;s freedom, telling Cavil that Hera is key to humanity&#039;s survival as well. He reasons with Cavil that there are higher forces at work, that led them all, here, for a reason.  Baltar also reveals that he has been visited by angels - the agents of God.   When Cavil questions if God has his people&#039;s interests at heart, on how Baltar knows that God is on his side, Baltar replies (in an allusion of something [[The Hand of God (RDM)| Virtual Six once told him]]), &amp;quot;God is not on anyone&#039;s side.&amp;quot; The Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar look on with a pleased expression.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar asks Cavil to take a leap of faith. Saul Tigh sweetens the pot by offering to reteach Cavil the secret of [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]], this time in exchange not only for Hera&#039;s life but for permanent peace, where the Cylons leave humanity alone.&lt;br /&gt;
* Cavil agrees. He uses the Battlestar comm to order his forces to stand down and releases Hera. Admiral Adama orders stand-down as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 6===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Vipers and Raptors return to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; as the Raiders return to the Colony. Laura Roslin joins the admiral in CIC.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Five each know part of the secret to resurrection. They will combine their knowledge by connecting themselves through the water in Ander&#039;s tank. Ellen Tigh tells the others that the process will also share memories as well as data.&lt;br /&gt;
* But before they begin, [[Tory Foster]], visibly anxious, warns the others that they will see &amp;quot;certain things&amp;quot; of their bad behavior. She tries to prepare the others of what they will see of her. An impatient Cavil screams. &amp;quot;I don&#039;t mean to rush you, but you are keeping two civilizations waiting!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* The Five dip their hands and make the connection. As the data flows to the Colony, Foster&#039;s visions of murdering [[Cally Tyrol]] in an effort to protect her secret of being a Cylon comes to the forefront, surprising the others of the Five, and angering [[Galen Tyrol]]  immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tyrol pulls his hand from the pool and wraps both hands tightly around Foster&#039;s neck in a death-grip, eventually snapping her neck.&lt;br /&gt;
* As Anders screams from the sudden disconnection, the Cylons in CIC believe they are deceived and open fire. The Colonials kill all but Cavil, who shouts an exasperated &amp;quot;[[Frak]]!&amp;quot; before putting his pistol in his mouth and pulling the trigger.&lt;br /&gt;
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* High above, as the Raiders begin attacking  &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; again, [[Racetrack]]&#039;s damaged Raptor drifts, its crew lifeless. A rock strikes the ship, causing Racetrack&#039;s dead hand to strike the firing button to the Raptor&#039;s tactical nuclear missiles, launching them all straight at the Colony.&lt;br /&gt;
* The force of the explosions severely damage the Colony, pushing it towards the black hole, threatening to take &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama orders Kara Thrace to make a [[blind jump]], but Thrace thinks about [[The Music|the music her father played]], the music that Hera wrote to her. Recalling the mathematical associations she tried to discern from the music, Thrace realizes the music works as a series of FTL coordinates.&lt;br /&gt;
* She punches in the coordinates into the [[Computers|navigation computer]] and jumps the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A flashback scene appears where Lee Adama and Kara Thrace talk about how she [[The Destiny|thinks about death]] every time she gets into a cockpit.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; completes the jump--but the strain of the last battle causes the battlestar&#039;s structure to ripple and twist as structural members tear and break. The ship will never jump again. Engines and life support are still online, but &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; backbone is broken.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Where have you taken us, Kara?&amp;quot; Roslin asks, as the scene changes to an exterior shot to show the battlestar flying over a gray, rocky moon.&lt;br /&gt;
* But is not just a moon...&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has arrived at the &#039;&#039;moon of Earth&#039;&#039;...another Earth, this one with the continent of Africa in prominent view.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 7===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Fleet jumps into Earth orbit as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; passes by. A Raptor came to Hoshi to guide them to Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
* Landing ship after landing ship leave for the new world.&lt;br /&gt;
* On a green, rich savannah in Africa, Admiral Adama, Cottle, Saul Tigh, Hoshi, and Baltar look on, lying prone on their stomachs with binoculars at a tribe of early humans. Cottle confirms that the native humans are compatible with the Colonials genetically.&lt;br /&gt;
* At a camp, as Lampkin considers a building of a new city, Lee Adama tells him to let humanity start all over again, leave their technology behind, which has almost always gotten them into trouble. Let the Colonials enter Earth with just their basic possessions.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama maps out a plan to populate various continents and land masses, spreading out humanity and Cylon far and wide, distributing supplies to give all a good chance of survival.  To Lampkin&#039;s surprise, the peoples of the Fleet take a liking to leaving technology behind.&lt;br /&gt;
* A [[Number Two]] tells Adama that the remaining Twos, Sixes, and Eights will stay on Earth as well, handing over the baseship to the Centurions, to give them their own freedom. When Lampkin questions if setting the Centurions free won&#039;t cause another holocaust hundreds of years from now, Ellen Tigh agrees it&#039;s a risk, but believes the cycle of death has been ended. Adama agrees.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama tells that, after everyone is offloaded from the ships, the Fleet will reunite with &#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; a final time. Piloted by Samuel Anders, still in his tank in CIC,  connected into the battlestar, he will fly all the ships on a final voyage into the Sun.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Kara Thrace, eyes filled with tears, meets with Anders at his tank, kissing him goodbye for the last time, and leaving her [[dog tags]]. As she leaves, he mutters, &amp;quot;I&#039;ll see you on the other side.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 8===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral William Adama descends into the hangar deck, wearing a [[flight suit]]. The deck is otherwise completely empty of anything, and anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
* He takes a seat in a [[Viper Mark II]]. Not just any Mark II...but the one that Galen Tyrol&#039;s team rebuilt for him as a retirement gift [[Miniseries, Night 1|so long ago]].&lt;br /&gt;
* As Adama&#039;s Viper launches, the scene shifts to six years prior, where Adama is taking a lie detector test for the prospective desk job. When the test administrator asks him test questions such as, &amp;quot;Are you a Cylon?&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Have you ever stolen money from a cash drawer?&amp;quot; Adama is angered and leaves, saying, &amp;quot;I&#039;d rather spend the rest of my career--what&#039;s left of it--on a broken old down ship, than to have someone sit here and question my word.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Husker&#039;s Viper makes a final fly-by of the old battlestar, looking at her one last time before pointing his Viper towards Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Samuel Anders&#039; voice from the past talks of his days in sport, dreaming of perfection, and being linked to it, to creation, as Anders guides the Fleet, now united to the mathematical perfection he once spoke of through his duties as a Hybrid.&lt;br /&gt;
* As the [[Colonial_Anthem|Colonial Anthem]]--a version of the [[Original Series]] main theme--plays, the scene shows &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and the Fleet gathered a final time, heading away from Earth and towards the sun to its demise.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Walking in the savannah, the Tighs speak with Galen Tyrol a final time. He has decided to go to the northern highlands of Earth (likely Scotland &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;). The scene shifts to the Tighs, partying back in Caprica City, once upon a time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 9===&lt;br /&gt;
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* On the plains, Bill Adama sits with Laura Roslin, watching herds of gazelle. Her vision weakening, she tries to use her glasses with the binoculars. &amp;quot;A very beautiful world,&amp;quot; she says. When she asks what the name of the planet is, Adama tells her it&#039;s Earth. He adds, &amp;quot;Earth is a dream,&amp;quot; believing that their new home, a long-sought destination, deserves the name.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin&#039;s breathing becomes labored and shallow. Adama offers to give her a better look at the wildlife. He picks her up and carries her to a nearby Raptor.&lt;br /&gt;
* Lee Adama and Kara Thrace notice and meet Bill Adama there. The Adamas hug, and Bill Adama gives Thrace a final greeting of &amp;quot;[[Nothing but the rain]]&amp;quot; before he hugs and kisses her. Thrace and Lee wave goodbye to a smiling Roslin as the Raptor ascends.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee realizes that his father isn&#039;t coming back. Kara Thrace tells Lee that she isn&#039;t coming back, either. &amp;quot;I just know that I am done here. I&#039;ve completed my journey...and it feels good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* A flashback scene, back in Thrace&#039;s apartment, where Thrace dares Lee to make love to her on her dining room table. But before they could do anything, the crash of a glass partially awakens Zak, causing the two to realize what they were doing. They shake hands and say goodbye.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Lee,&amp;quot; Kara Thrace says. As Lee tells her of desire to explore and climb mountains, he turns to find that Kara Thrace has vanished, as if she were a ghost. &amp;quot;Goodbye, Kara,&amp;quot; he says. &amp;quot;You won&#039;t be forgotten.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* A flashback scene shows the pigeon that would be trapped in Lee&#039;s apartment after his visit to Kara and Zak. It looks at Lee and flies out of the window and away.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In another flashback from six years prior, Laura Roslin returns to stand by the side of the bed, thanks Sean Allison, but tells him that they will not meet this way again, and asks him to leave. As the man leaves, Roslin returns to her bathroom, lights a cigarette, then makes a phone call. She accepts the opportunity to work on Mayor [[Richard Adar]]&#039;s campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama&#039;s Raptor flies over flamingos. &amp;quot;So much..life,&amp;quot; Laura Roslin says...her final words as she closes her eyes and quietly passes.&lt;br /&gt;
* Moments go by before Bill realizes that she is gone.&lt;br /&gt;
* In tears, Bill removes his wedding ring and places it on Laura&#039;s hand. &amp;quot;Right there...I&#039;m going to build our cabin right there,&amp;quot; he says, pointing to some hills.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 10===&lt;br /&gt;
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* A line of people walk into the wilderness, calm and ready to take on the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Agathons walk as well, Helo using a makeshift crutch, talking of hunting and other pleasantries. Hera runs about in play, a smile on her face.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Gaius Baltar and Caprica-Six look on at Hera playing as the Virtual Six and Baltar reappear. When Caprica-Six questions if the protection of Hera was all that God wanted of them, the Virtual Six replies, &amp;quot;God&#039;s plan is never complete.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Great...&amp;quot; Baltar replies sullenly.&lt;br /&gt;
* Virtual-Baltar counters, &amp;quot;I think it&#039;s safe to say that, from now on, your lives will be less...eventful.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Another flashback to Caprica City. Baltar offers Caprica-Six an opportunity to &amp;quot;peek&amp;quot; into the [[Colonial Defense Mainframe]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Baltar points to some land, he recalls his heritage, and [[Junius Baltar|his father]], and that he knows a bit about farming, to a bit of tears.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama sits, looking out into the hills and valley. &amp;quot;I laid out the cabin today. It&#039;s going to have an easterly view. You should see the light that we get here. When the sun comes from behind those mountains. It&#039;s almost heavenly. It reminds me of you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* As he speaks, the camera pans up to show Adama, seated near the cairn he built for Laura Roslin&#039;s body.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scene turns to show Hera playing and looking upward. Scenes of wood and desert and sea pass by in a geologic montage to reveal an Earth city--New York City--150,000 years ahead in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As a fly-over of the city appears, a voice-over of Virtual-Six reads from a magazine article of the Tanzanian discovery of the bones of what scientists believe our the remains of the [[w:mitochondrial Eve|mitochondrial Eve]], the matrilineal common ancestor of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
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* As [[Ron D. Moore|a man reads]] about the scientific discovery, the Virtual Six and Baltar look over his shoulder at a magazine article of the news, and reveal what they know...the bones are that of Hera Agathon, born of a Cylon mother and a human father. No other people on the street appear to notice them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The two talk of the technology and decadence, of whether this Earth will repeat the mistakes of generations past and again become overwhelmed by their creations. The Six thinks not, believing it to be God&#039;s plan.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;You know it doesn&#039;t like that name,&amp;quot; Baltar says. Six only looks back in mild defiance. &amp;quot;Silly. Silly me,&amp;quot; he replies as the two walk away into the metropolis.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The episode concludes with scenes of robots, from toys to advanced automatons growing and evolving, as Jimi Hendrix&#039;s--Earth&#039;s popular version--of &amp;quot;[[The Music|All Along The Watchtower]]&amp;quot; plays.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes  ==&lt;br /&gt;
*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Rapture]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Part I had a runtime of one hour, Part II will run for two hours. An even longer cut of Daybreak will later be released on DVD. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite_news|first=|last=|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/07/talking-battles.html|title=Talking &#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;s&#039; finale, &#039;Caprica&#039; and the &#039;Battlestar&#039; TV movie with Ron Moore}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*There was no final population count given after the engagement with the Cavil forces. However, there were no reported deaths by accident or violence before the engagement so the population count is most likely the same as it was in &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part I]]&amp;quot; before the attack on the Cylon Colony, 39,516.&lt;br /&gt;
**A new population count post-engagement is given in the separate iTunes release of Daybreak, Part III. The count is 39,406, putting Colonial casualties from the battle at 110. Then shortly after their arrival on New Earth former President of the 12  Colonies of Kobol Laura Roslin dies, and Kara Thrace vanishes without a trace. From this we can derive that the number of people settled on New Earth is 39,404. This does not include the unknown number of humanoid Cylons from the Baseship (which probably was never stated) and possibly Athena and the remaining three of the Final Five who aren&#039;t considered human survivors. &lt;br /&gt;
*With the ramming of [[The Colony]] by &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; Hera&#039;s prophetic [[Projection]] at the very beginning of [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]] came true. In her projection as she was playing on &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s tactical light table with the models of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, she rammed a model Baseship with the model of &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*There is a poetic ring to the nature of the conflict of the Second Cylon War:&lt;br /&gt;
** It began with the Cylon attack on Colonies nearly wiping out mankind. It ended with the Colonial attack on the Cylon Colony very likely wiping out the Cylons who didn&#039;t join with the humans. &lt;br /&gt;
**Shortly after the Cylon attack on Caprica, Baltar -- having unintentionally brought about the near-annihilation of the human species -- flees Caprica when Karl Agathon gives him his place on a Raptor, feeling that his own life is less important to save than a famed scientist&#039;s. But at the end of the series, it is Baltar who puts his own life at risk for the sake of saving Agathon&#039;s daughter Hera and expresses concern for her future well being to the very end of the series (both ends of this parallel occur in wide open fields). &lt;br /&gt;
**Agathon and Cylon Sharon Valerii are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.&lt;br /&gt;
**The earliest known detail we see of Gaius Baltar&#039;s life is his effort to break away from his family history as farmers, and his shame over his heritage. The last event we see in his embrace of a new beginning as a farmer.&lt;br /&gt;
**Baltar and Number Six are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.&lt;br /&gt;
**The earliest event we see from Laura Roslin&#039;s life (retroactively) is the death of her sisters, killed during transit. The last event of her life that we see is her own death, which occurs during transit.&lt;br /&gt;
**The series began with Galactica&#039;s scheduled decommissioning and ends with its actual decommissioning.&lt;br /&gt;
**The series begins with a selfish decision Baltar makes (to give Caprica Six access to military mainframes) that nearly destroys Colonial humanity. It ends with a selfless decision Baltar makes (to fulfill his destiny in saving Hera) that gives Colonial humanity a new start in the form of Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]&#039;s observation of him being President of it being &amp;quot;Poetic justice&amp;quot; and Lee Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;What goes around, comes around&amp;quot; since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate aforethought, gave [[Caprica Six]] the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it if caught. Previously Baltar&#039;s giving of Caprica Six the secrets was implied-or at least inferred-to be from naive vanity to impress his girlfriend Caprica Six.  &lt;br /&gt;
*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon &amp;quot;Boomer&amp;quot; Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall|Hamish &amp;quot;Skulls&amp;quot; McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Laura Roslin]] and the destruction of Cavil&#039;s forces. The [[Doral]] and [[Simon]] lines are also presumably wiped out, or at least decimated beyond recovery. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and her current whereabouts are unknown. In detail:&lt;br /&gt;
**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with [[Helo]] and beating her in the lavatory.&lt;br /&gt;
**Cavil took his own life in Galactica&#039;s CIC when his side lost.&lt;br /&gt;
***It is unknown what happened to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line.  The death of only a single Cavil is depicted.&lt;br /&gt;
**Racetrack and Skulls&#039;s Raptor was struck by a meteor penetrating their wind screen and striking them. Both Skulls and Racetrack were killed on impact. Racetrack&#039;s dead hand later hit the launch button that launched the nuclear missiles after her Raptor was hit again by an asteroid.&lt;br /&gt;
**Tory was killed by [[Galen Tyrol]] in revenge for Tory killing his wife [[Cally]] after he learned Tory murdered her during the mutual and involuntary exchange of private information of the [[Final Five]]&#039;s minds while downloading Resurrection technology data to the Cavil forces.&lt;br /&gt;
**Anders guided himself in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and the Fleet into the Sun. &lt;br /&gt;
**Roslin died of cancer as Adama was giving her a bird&#039;s eye view of their new home on second Earth in a Raptor. &lt;br /&gt;
**Since they did not have either Cylon females or Resurrection technology the Cavil, Simon and Doral models on the various Cylon Baseships presumably died out after their natural life spans were exhausted. &lt;br /&gt;
**Kara was presumably taken by the same force, stated to be God by [[Virtual Six]], that resurrected her. &lt;br /&gt;
*The fate of numerous supporting characters remains unrevealed, including [[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]], last seen flying his Viper during the attack on the Colony, numerous mutineers such as [[Diana Seelix]], and others such as Doc Cottle&#039;s nurse. The episode also never touches on what became of [[Cult of Baltar|Baltar&#039;s cult]], including founding member[[Jeanne]] who is absent from the finale entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode also marks the destruction of the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her Fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Raiders are seen using missiles for the first time since the Fall of the Twelve Colonies.&lt;br /&gt;
*Apparently contrary to previous information, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; executes a successful jump with her flight pods extended. It is unclear why on previous occasions the pods needed to be retracted prior to jumping, or why the Cylons targeting the pods in the mini-series battle would have crippled the ship. However, when &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; comes out of the jump a Viper can be seen being hurled clear from the ship, which is presumably why retracting the pods is advisable. It is also possible that the strain of jumping with the pods extended contributed to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039;s structural failure.&lt;br /&gt;
*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth, and the humans of today are the distance descendants of Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
*The tracing of the human blood line through [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial DNA|Mitochondrial DNA]] to a common ancestor and dubbing her [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] is a real theory.  Mitochondrial Eve was the &#039;&#039;matrilineal most recent common ancestor&#039;&#039;, the most recent person in the female line that all of humanity can be said to be from. In other words, Hera is everybody&#039;s mother&#039;s mother&#039;s ... mother&#039;s mother. This does NOT imply that she is the only ancestor of modern humans. In fact, it implies that each female alive at the time either has no surviving descendants, or is ALSO a common ancestor (though not a purely maternal one).&lt;br /&gt;
** In the series, Hera is Mitochondrial Eve, meaning that all of modern humanity is a combination of Colonial humanity and Cylon, although there maybe ancestors of native New Earth in the current population from the male line of descendants. &lt;br /&gt;
** The fossilized remains are said to be of a young woman, indicating Hera does not live to see a middle age, though she has children before she dies. Specifically, she must have had daughters to pass on her (Human-Cylon) mitochondrial DNA.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Centurions are granted full independence and subsequently depart in the rebel Baseship to pursue their own destiny. Their status 150,000 years later remains a mystery. The Colonials and humanoid Cylons believe it is unlikely they will be a threat, as they have no reason to bear a grudge this time around.&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]&#039;&#039;, the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game &#039;&#039;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun]&#039;&#039; is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.&lt;br /&gt;
*When &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and the Fleet fly into the Sun, only 15 ships can be seen when at least 35 ships were still in the Fleet during the Mutiny, and upwards of 90 after the events of the mini-series. However, establishing shots of the Fleet rarely show more than a dozen ships in one shot regardless, and the implication is that the entire Fleet was destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all.  In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, &amp;quot;Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe&amp;quot;, W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver.  [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x]  Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Centurion Model 0005 in the museum case is a retcon.  In the [[Miniseries]], it was an Original Series costume, with the black skirt and non-exposed joints.  In this episode, it is a CGI First War Centurion 0005 with exposed joints and no black skirt.&lt;br /&gt;
**It is not explained why the museum flight pod is shown to be in nearly pristine condition when, in addition to four years of battles and the atmosphere-drop over New Caprica, a Cylon Heavy Raider crashed through the overhead window and crushed several of the exhibits in &#039;&#039;[[Scattered]]&#039;&#039;. Repairing the museum and exhibits would have seemed to be a low priority during subsequent events.&lt;br /&gt;
*Reference (possibly intentional) is made to Olmos&#039; earlier work: Adama&#039;s flushing of flamingos while flying a Raptor is reminiscent of the flamingos flushing during the opening credits of Miami Vice, the TV series in which Edward James Olmos co-starred.&lt;br /&gt;
*The news network covering the story &amp;quot;Advances in Robotics&amp;quot; as Angel Baltar and Six pass by is [http://www.msnbc.com MSNBC], the 24 hour news network arm of the NBC Universal media conglomerate which also owns the SyFy Channel (at the time the SciFi Channel), which produces &#039;&#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;&#039; and airs the series in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
*Although many of the magazines on the newsstand appear familiar, close examination reveals that at least some have made-up names. A magazine that appears at first glance to be &#039;&#039;Sports Illustrated&#039;&#039; is actually &#039;&#039;Sports Limited&#039;&#039;. Also, although the magazine read by Angel Six and Baltar (and Ronald Moore) closely resembles &#039;&#039;National Geographic&#039;&#039;, at no time is the complete title of the magazine or its full logo actually shown on screen.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*The coordinates that Thrace enters, 1123 / 6536 / 5321 correspond to the notation of the Final Four theme [http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/theme-watchtower.jpg]. The song is in a C# Phrygian scale (enharmonic with A major and F# minor). 1 represents C#, and each higher integer indicates the next note in the scale, such that&lt;br /&gt;
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:1 = C#&lt;br /&gt;
:2 = D&lt;br /&gt;
:3 = E&lt;br /&gt;
:(4 = F#)&lt;br /&gt;
:5 = G#&lt;br /&gt;
:6 = A&lt;br /&gt;
:(7 = B)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The linked graphic omits the first and last note of the theme, but both can be heard in the soundtrack during the jump montage. The second &amp;quot;five&amp;quot; (in the third chunk of four digits) corresponds to the tuplet G#/A/G#, effectively omitting the trill up to high A. Every note has the same duration except for the last two, which are twice the length of the others.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Virtual Beings are angels of God who came to guide Baltar and Caprica Six in their destiny of protecting Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kara Thrace is an angel who was sent back from the dead to guide humanity to a new home the coordinates of which were hidden in The Music.&lt;br /&gt;
*It is possible that some Baseships of Ones, Fours, and Fives were not at the [[Colony]] when it was destroyed, given the fact that they were observed jumping in and out of the system by Racetrack and Skulls. However, as noted in the &amp;quot;Notes&amp;quot; section it is unlikely that the Cavil, Simon and Doral lines will continue without Cylon females. The [[Three]]s are extinct with the last copy [[D&#039;Anna Biers]] herself dying on the original Earth; Boomer was killed in the Colony (and in anycase couldn&#039;t single handedly save the lines even if she were alive); and the last Sixes and Eights staying with the humans on the second Earth. However, there is the possibility of having a few remaining human females from the survivors of the various Colonial worlds including [[Caprica]], if they still exist, being viable, so the lines could in theory continue. However, given the total lack of success in the forced breeding of Cylons and humans and the Cavil, Dorals and Simon&#039;s cynical view of love, an apparent requirement of conception between both Cylon-Cylon and Cylon-human combinations, with their hatred of humans it is unlikely. One final option could remain. The Final Five was able to download some of the Resurrection technology data to the Cavil Faction before Tyrol in his rage at Tory broke the connection. It is possible that the Cavil faction could extrapolate from the data they did get to recreate the technology. How long this could take or even if it is possible depends on how much and/or if the most critical and unique part of the technology was downloaded.   &lt;br /&gt;
*On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and the male being say 60 to take an extreme. However, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and [[Boxey (RDM)|slightly older]] in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth, perhaps within five years to ten years of her age.  It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born-if any-very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself is an much more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is still harder than with human-human pairings. This would make any children pool of those pairings, while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring,  would still quite small number compared to pure human offspring frequency of birth. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely of the three since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist. Throw in the possibility is Hera mating with the New Earth native tribal humans males then the likely hood of Hera having a child with a human is very likely.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] appears as himself holding a &#039;&#039;National Geographic&#039;&#039; magazine in New York City. &lt;br /&gt;
*The shelters erected by the Colonials on Earth resemble [[Wikipedia:Quonset hut|Quonset huts]], World War II-era temporary structures.&lt;br /&gt;
*The final scenes of this episode, in fast-forwarding through time and attempting to set the entire work as a backstory, make the ending similar to that of the film [[Wikipedia:How the West Was Won (film)|How the West Was Won]].&lt;br /&gt;
* There are at least two distinct angels. They have known each other long and born witness to Kobol and the original Earth, as well as the Twelve Colonies and the new Earth. They can walk around and observe events even when no one else present can see them, though they may have the ability to appear to anyone they wish. In the final scene, a man walking by the Angel Six appears to check her out (though this may have been a simple acting goof). &lt;br /&gt;
* In another piece of irony, the two beings most directly responsible for the attack and destruction of the 12 Colonies, Gaius Baltar and Caprica Six, get to live on a lush green New Earth in love with each other.&lt;br /&gt;
* Even if humanity does repeat the cycle, Lee Adama&#039;s plan would seem to have had some success, because it will have taken much, much longer to do so this time around.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ellen says that hopefully the Hybrids will &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; respond to Anders&#039; commands. In other words, they would recognize him from the time the Final Five ran the Colony.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Final Five can be considered ancestors of present-day humanity because they created Athena and the other Eights, Twos, and Sixes.&lt;br /&gt;
* The constellation [[w:Ursa Major|Ursa Major]] (commonly known as the &amp;quot;Big Dipper&amp;quot;) appears briefly in this episode.  It makes only the second appearance of a recognizable star pattern in the series, the first being Orion in &amp;quot;[[The Ties That Bind]]&amp;quot; (Orion is also visible in this episode).&lt;br /&gt;
* Factual Error: Starbuck jumps Galactica 1 million Lightyears to earth; Our Galaxy&#039;s diameter is 100.000 Ly, and the next galaxy (Andromeda) is 2.500.000 Ly away from the Milky way. So Galactica would end up in the big nothing inbetween both galaxies. If the 12 colonies were believed to be originally seated in Andromeda this would make the error even worse. (All starcharts they find or see on their way to earth contradict this, too, and the distance travelled would still be too short that way around.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Cavil&#039;s suicide, in the way it is framed and executed, closely mirrors the televised 1987 suicide of American politician [[w:Budd Dwyer|Budd Dwyer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions  ==&lt;br /&gt;
* What becomes of the Centurions?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do they go after the remnants of Cavil&#039;s forces, or go their separate ways?&lt;br /&gt;
** Will the freed Centurions eventually develop their own humanoid forms, or develop in a completely other direction?&lt;br /&gt;
** If there are descendants of the Centurions 150,000 years later, do they remember their history?&lt;br /&gt;
* Did any copies of Cavil, Doral, or Simon survive? (See Notes)&lt;br /&gt;
**It is likely that some did on other baseships, as well as the likelyhood of some on the old Colonial planets.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Final Five]] was able to download some of the Resurrection technology data to the Cavil Faction Cylons before [[Galen Tyrol]] in his rage over discovering [[Cally]]&#039;s murder by [[Tory Foster]] broke the connection. Would the surviving Cavils, Dorals, and Simons be able to rebuild Resurrection technology from extrapolating from the data they did receive?&lt;br /&gt;
**Unlikely, as the only copies of this data would&#039;ve been on board the Colony and in the minds of the final five.  As Tory died and the Colony was destroyed, none of the remaining Cylons would have access to this information.&lt;br /&gt;
* Why does Cavil choose to commit suicide?&lt;br /&gt;
** [[RDM]] has stated &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that the manner of Cavil&#039;s death was suggested by [[Dean Stockwell]]: &amp;quot;I just really think that in that moment, Cavil would realize the jig is up and it&#039;s all hopeless and just put a gun in his mouth and shoot himself.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* What becomes of the Baseships seen orbiting the Colony?&lt;br /&gt;
** Since the Fleet&#039;s baseship with its liberated Centurion crew is seen departing for parts unknown, perhaps they united.&lt;br /&gt;
* Are any other human-Cylon hybrids born on Earth, or do the Leobens, Sixes, and Sharons remain childless?&lt;br /&gt;
* If &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t like to be called [[God (RDM)|God]], what does &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; like to be called?&lt;br /&gt;
** This is a possible reference to the numerous other names attributed to God by different religions.&lt;br /&gt;
* Will modern humans discover remains of Colonial technology such as Raptors?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why do the angels still look like Baltar and Six 150,000 years later?&lt;br /&gt;
** It is possible that the Number Six line was based upon the appearance of the being that presented itself to Galen Tyrol and the others prior to the nuclear destruction of the first Earth, as the five modeled the new eight after people they knew, Cavil was Ellen&#039;s father etc. That said, the Angel Six may actually appear as such.&lt;br /&gt;
* Will humanity repeat the Cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
* Are Thrace and Anders together after Thrace&#039;s disappearance?&lt;br /&gt;
* Can Thrace ever return again?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do Baltar and Caprica-Six marry? Do they go into isolation like Adama and Tyrol, or will they be near a human colony?&lt;br /&gt;
* Since Caprica Six and Gaius Baltar genuinely love each other, do they eventually have a child?&lt;br /&gt;
* Were Caprica Six and Baltar &amp;quot;supposed&amp;quot; to bring about the destruction of the Twelve Colonies?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do Adama and Tyrol stay isolated for the rest of their lives?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Romo Lampkin chosen as President?  Wouldn&#039;t a member of the Quorum of Captains have been selected?&lt;br /&gt;
** They likely needed a &amp;quot;neutral&amp;quot; party and had no time to hold an election. Also, a bond of trust had been established between Lee Adama and Romo in previous episodes.&lt;br /&gt;
* What became of the remaining prisoners aboard the &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;[[Astral Queen]]&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;?  Were they sent out amongst the rest of the human population, or were all of them deposited in some geographical area completely isolated from the other humans?  &lt;br /&gt;
* Were any of the groups provided with medicine, or medical training or at least someone with medical knowledge before spreading out among the world?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is God related to the Lords of Kobol or something completely different?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why did the First Hybrid not want humanity to follow Thrace?&lt;br /&gt;
** It appears that there was a faction of Cylons who did not accept the Final Five&#039;s offer to have humanoid models built for them, so it stands to reason they were the most &amp;quot;pure&amp;quot; Cylons following their own path and would not want to share human DNA.  &lt;br /&gt;
* How many angels are there? Are the ones that resemble Six and Baltar the same as those that appeared to the Final Five and Thrace, or distinct?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why have angels not been appearing to the Final Five since Old Earth&#039;s destruction, only to Baltar, Six, and Thrace?&lt;br /&gt;
* Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will analysis of Hera&#039;s remains reveal that she was not a normal human?  (See Notes)&lt;br /&gt;
** No because what we deem a modern human is in fact a mixture of Colonial human and Humanoid Cylon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Is the evolution of humans on two planets due to the same divine hand that&#039;s been guiding other events?&lt;br /&gt;
* Does human life evolve on planets other than Kobol and the new Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who did Hera eventually have children with? A human or a Cylon? (See Analysis) &lt;br /&gt;
* Was it coincidence or divine intervention that an asteroid caused Racetrack&#039;s hand to hit the launch button for the nuclear weapons at the exact right moment?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Galactica able to jump without retracting its [[flight pods]] when escaping from the Colony? Did this cause Galactica to break its backbone?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will modern humanity venture out into space and discover places such as Kobol, the original Earth, the Twelve Colonies, and New Caprica?&lt;br /&gt;
* How close are the two Earths? The [[Tomb of Athena]] starmap showed constellations known on the second Earth, but was supposed to have been the sky as seen from the first. Does this mean they are very close indeed?&lt;br /&gt;
**New Earth is apparently 1 million light years from Kobol, and old Earth had to be within 2000 light years of Kobol and the 12 Colonies, based on the Final Five not having jump drives and having to travel at sub-light relativistic speeds. That means old Earth has to be nearly 1 million light years from new Earth. If this is the case, how do the constellations line up?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Possibly gross exaggeration (similar to &amp;quot;a million miles from home&amp;quot;) of the distances involved in their travels, when considering the lengths of time it took for the fleet to initially reach Kobol, even with the hundreds of jumps that occurred during 33; and then the further time to reach the first Earth 2000 light years away. The diameter of the Milky Way galaxy is 100.000 lightyears and the fleet never leaves this galaxy. &lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Starbuck not aware of her true nature until after her role had been fulfilled?&lt;br /&gt;
* In what part of Earth (a northerly island with &amp;quot;highlands&amp;quot;) did Galen Tyrol settle? Scotland?&lt;br /&gt;
** Scotland, according an interview with RDM &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* What is the nature of Starbuck&#039;s journey to the First Earth, crash, and return in the unscathed Viper? How did she &amp;quot;jump&amp;quot; to its coordinates? If her return was engineered by God to use her as an angel and bring humanity to Earth, why do so in a way that raised more questions about how it occurred than it answered?&lt;br /&gt;
* In what way, if any, did Starbuck fulfill her [[The Destiny|destiny]] as the &amp;quot;harbinger of death&amp;quot; that would lead humanity to its &amp;quot;end&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
** The pure Human and pure Cylon races both came to an end due to Starbuck&#039;s part in bringing them together. Furthermore, she helped bring about the apparent death of the Cycle.&lt;br /&gt;
* How did the proto-Greek polytheistic religion of the Colonies survive nearly 150,000 years before being revived in garbled form with the rise of Greek civilization? Did it die out in practice but return through the universal subconscious?&lt;br /&gt;
* In what way, if any, did the Cylons&#039; monotheistic religion and the Colonies&#039; polytheistic religion intertwine? Did they coexist peacefully, or were there conflicts? Do modern monotheistic religions trace their traditions ultimately to those of the Cylons and the [[Cult of Baltar]]?&lt;br /&gt;
* During the lie detector test in the flashback scene of William Adama&#039;s attempt to secure a civilian job, why did the interrogator ask him if he was a Cylon? At that point in history, it was unknown that the Cylons had humanoid appearance.&lt;br /&gt;
**The question was likely a control question to establish how a truthful response to an absurd question would register.&lt;br /&gt;
* Even after committing the fleet to destruction, there are still serviceable Raptors on the surface of Earth, which are jump-capable. Would any of the surviving humans or Cylons come to regret having settled on a primitive world without technology and decide to return to the stars in search of resources or other habitable planets? Is there any [[tylium]] available on Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Assuming that (as Tigh indicated to Adama in [[Revelations]]) the Final Five Cylons age but the rest do not, what will become of Caprica-Six, Athena, and any other survivors of the non-Final Five models? How will Helo and Baltar cope with the non-aging of their spouses as they themselves age?&lt;br /&gt;
**As the humanoid Cylons are biological by nature, they will age at some rate.  Considering that they are nearly identical biologically to humans, they likely age at a similar rate.  It is likely that they might have previously prevented the appearance of aging due to frequent resurrection.  Since that is no longer an option, they would age and die like the humans do.&lt;br /&gt;
** What Saul and Bill discuss is not necessarily fact; they don&#039;t know everything about the Cylons and characters are often seen speculating throughout the show in ways that have turned out to be false. For eg. in Season 1, some were scared people had been &amp;quot;replaced&amp;quot; by Cylons, which never happens.&lt;br /&gt;
** Ellen said John Cavil was once a boy, but this is not necessarily literal.&lt;br /&gt;
* Did the old-style [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] on the Colony fight for Cavil because they had [[telencephalic inhibitor]]s, or of their own free will? If the latter, why?&lt;br /&gt;
**If the old-style Cylons are still the Cylons that participated in the first Cylon war, they likely still do hold a grudge against humanity for enslaving them.  Consider that Cavil has claimed in the past to want &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; for what was done to his Centurion ancestors([[No Exit]]), and that the rebel Cylons are responsible for what could be taken as a genocide against the Cylons ([[The Hub]]), it&#039;s entirely possible that these old-style Centurions would hold a grudge against humanity and as such fight against them in an invasion of their home.&lt;br /&gt;
Considering these old centurions were sentient before Cavil was created it&#039;s highly unlikely Cavil was able to equip them with telecephalic inhibtors. These centurions probably were treated as equals by the humanoid cylons and were allowed to live with them on the colony until they broke down. &lt;br /&gt;
* Is the Adama family the origin of the name Adam for the mythical first man?&lt;br /&gt;
* Has any of modern Humanity inherited Hera&#039;s ability to project?&lt;br /&gt;
* Was there anyone like Kara Thrace in previous iterations of the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
* Does the cult continue under Paulla&#039;s leadership?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue  ==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Virtual Baltar says the last line of the series as he walks down a street of modern day New York City with Virtual Six:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Virtual Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Silly Me.....silly, silly me&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;The Galactica is about to jump to The Colony and into harms way:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Admiral Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: Just so there&#039;ll be no misunderstandings later... &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has seen a lot of history, gone through a lot of battles. This &#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039; be her last. She will not fail us if we do not fail her. If we succeed in our mission, &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; will bring us home. If we don&#039;t... it doesn’t matter anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;The Final Five are discussing things among themselves about to download the specifications of Resurrection technology. Cavil is impatient&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cavil&#039;&#039;&#039;:&amp;quot;Not to rush you or anything, but you are keeping two entire civilizations waiting!&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Cavil&#039;s last word before he commits suicide.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Cavil&#039;&#039;&#039;: Frak!&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Nuclear missiles has knocked the Colony falling into the Singularity and is dragging Galactica with it and Starbuck is frantically attempting to figure out the jump coordinates.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Starbuck&#039;&#039;&#039;: There must be some kind of way out of here.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar speculating if the cycle will continue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Virtual Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: All of this has happened before...&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Virtual Six&#039;&#039;&#039;: But does it all have to happen again?&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;Sam Anders, essentially Galactica&#039;s Hybrid, says his last words to Kara Thrace after she leaves his side.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:Samuel Anders: See you on the other side&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Baltar to Caprica Six on New Earth in unspoken reference about his father&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Baltar&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;You know, I know about farming.&amp;quot; (sobs)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Laura Roslin is speaking to Dr. Cottle about the state of her health which both know it is grave with only a few days to live. Also, she is about to essentially go into battle to retrieve Hera and the Doctor appears to be on the verge of choking up:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Laura Roslin&#039;&#039;&#039;: Don&#039;t spoil your image, just light a cigarette and go and grumble.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Former Admiral of the Fleet William Adama is showing Laura their new home on New Earth in a Raptor. She sees a heard of grezlles stampeding at the sight of the Raptor over the lush and rich landscape and says her last words:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Roslin&#039;&#039;&#039;: So much life...&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;William Adama is sitting on a high ridge overlooking what would later be called the African Savannah in spectacular view. Laura Roslin&#039;s grave is behind him close by and he talks to her spirit. It is his last statement in the series:&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;William Adama&#039;&#039;&#039;: I laid out the cabin. It&#039;s gonna have an easternly view. You should see the light we get here. When the sun comes from behind the mountains, it&#039;s almost heavenly. Reminds me of you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Boomer has just given over Hera to Athena, saving her life from Cavil and Simon dissection-and both redeeming herself and condemning herself to death&#039;&#039;  &lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Boomer&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Athena): Tell the old man, I owed him one.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;&#039; (angrily) Doesn&#039;t change anything you did though!&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Boomer&#039;&#039;&#039; (shakes her head slightly): No. We all make our choices. Today I made a choice. I think its my last one. &lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Starbuck&#039;&#039;&#039;: All right this is really touching. Now can we get the frak out of here!?!&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Boomer&#039;&#039;&#039; (to Starbuck): You should know that your Raptor been destroyed. You can&#039;t go back that way. &lt;br /&gt;
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:(Athena passes Hera to Helo)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;&#039;: Yeah well, that is not the plan.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Starbuck&#039;&#039;&#039; (sardonically): Can we &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; tell her the plan?&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Athena&#039;&#039;&#039;: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;(Athena and Boomer look each other in the eye for a moment. She raises her weapon. Boomer makes no move to escape, but stands strait head up, accepting if not welcoming her fate. Athena fires. Boomer is dead before she hits the deck.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest Stars  ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Number Four]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Sherman Cottle]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kerry Norton]] as [[Layne Ishay]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Number One]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brenden &amp;quot;Hotdog&amp;quot; Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Colin Lawrence]] as Ensign [[Hamish McCall|Hamish &amp;quot;Skulls&amp;quot; McCall]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lara Gilchrist]] as [[Paulla Schaffer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Marine [[Allan Nowart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leela Savasta]] as [[Tracey Anne]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Darcy Laurie]] as [[Dealino]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] as [[Hera Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tobias Mehler]] as [[Zak Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Simone Bailly]] as [[Shona]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kevin McNulty]] as [[Frank Porthos]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Richard Jollymore]] as Marine #1&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anthony St. John]] as Marine #2&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dan Payne]] as [[Sean Allison]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Holly Eglinton]] as Stripper&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]] (uncredited)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] as Man at news stand (uncredited)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Episode list (RDM season 4)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Episodes written by Ronald D. Moore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Episodes directed by Michael Rymer]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Daybreak, Part II/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* (Un)answered questions) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why &#039;&#039;&#039;CYLON&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not the same thing: we&#039;ve known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible that Moore knowing about Eve&#039;s existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven&#039;t been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Daybreak, Part II</title>
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| image=Daybreak Teaser.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title= Daybreak, Part II &amp;amp; Part III&lt;br /&gt;
| season= 4&lt;br /&gt;
| episode= 20&lt;br /&gt;
| guests= &lt;br /&gt;
| writer= [[Ronald D. Moore]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://rondmoore.com/Site/Blog/Entries/2008/4/18_Podcast_Success!.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| story=&lt;br /&gt;
| director= [[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=422&lt;br /&gt;
| rating=&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=March 20, 2009 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://tv.ign.com/articles/920/920164p1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| CAN airdate=March 20, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=March 24, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd=&lt;br /&gt;
| population=&lt;br /&gt;
| prev=[[Daybreak, Part I]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next=[[The Plan]]&lt;br /&gt;
| extra=&#039;&#039;&#039;Series Finale - 2 Hour Episode&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| forumthread=3050&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 1===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The final episode begins with a series of events before before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall]].&lt;br /&gt;
*  In a strip bar in [[Caprica City]], [[William Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh|Saul]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] enjoy themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama questions whether to take a civilian job, rather than to take command of an aged battlestar&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This is a side reference to the events of the episode, &amp;quot;[[Hero]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Over drinks, Adama decides to take the job.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elsewhere on Caprica, [[Lee Adama]] is having dinner with [[Kara Thrace]] and her fiancee, [[Zak Adama]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Zak questions why his brother joined the [[Colonial Forces]], despite Lee&#039;s idealism and his dislike of his father. Lee simply answers that he received college funding in exchange for service.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elsewhere, [[Laura Roslin]] greets her date, [[Sean Allison]], at her home. After realizing he seemed familiar, Roslin finally recalls where she had seen him. Sean was a former student from years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite the age difference, Roslin decides to let him stay the night. &amp;quot;The night&#039;s young. Apparently, so are you,&amp;quot; she says. &amp;quot;Let&#039;s see what happens.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Back at the strip bar, Bill Adama challenges Saul on whether he&#039;d take the civilian desk job. Saul doesn&#039;t answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama and Thrace manage to drag Zak back to the apartment after a night of drinking. But Thrace isn&#039;t done, and pulls out more alcohol for shots between her and Lee.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama is drunkenly sick, vomiting outside somewhere on the street. With a weak smile, he looks up to the stars in the night sky.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scene shifts back to present day on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, where [[Gaius Baltar]] sits in the former home of his [[Cult of Baltar|followers]], now empty.&lt;br /&gt;
* He listens to the [[Virtual Beings|virtual Six]], telling him to trust in [[God (RDM)|God&#039;s plan]] for him. When he asks what that plan is, she tells him that he already following it.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 2=== &lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[sickbay]], Dr. [[Cottle]] (who will not be staying aboard the ship for the battle) leaves assistant [[Layne Ishay]] two injections of heavy medication to allow Laura Roslin enough lucidity and mobility for 48 hours. She thanks him sincerely, causing Cottle to be something he&#039;d rarely been: speechless.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the [[pilot ready room]], [[Karl Agathon]] briefs the [[Raptor]] teams on the special nature of their rescue mission. Despite the odds, all volunteer.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama briefs the [[marines]] on where little Hera would likely be: deep inside the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[The Colony|colony]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama work out the tactics of the battle against the colony. Close-range combat; nuclear weapons and missiles will not be possible for the battlestar. He orders the gun [[battery|batteries]] to fire until exhausted, and after that, &amp;quot;start throwing rocks,&amp;quot; he says with a small smile.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[Final Five]] plan out what they can offer as well. As befitting a cybernetic race, they consider a tactic used by Cylons in the past. They will use [[Samuel Anders]], now effectively a [[Hybrid]] on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, to interface with the Colony and its Hybrids to interrupt their commands, slowing the effectiveness of the Colony&#039;s weapon systems.&lt;br /&gt;
* The catch is that Anders will need to be connected to the [[DRADIS]], fire control and [[C-3]] systems. They plan to take Anders and connect him inside [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama hands over command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to [[Hoshi]], noting that if they aren&#039;t back from the mission in 12 hours, they will never come back.&lt;br /&gt;
* In CIC, Saul Tigh jokes at his old friend at the bizarre sight of a Cylon interfaced to his battlestar, gooey wires and conduit that extend over Adama&#039;s command console everywhere and into the DRADIS console. &amp;quot;Still not too late to flush them all out of the airlock,&amp;quot; Tigh quips. &amp;quot;Take too much time,&amp;quot; Adama answers. &lt;br /&gt;
* With Lee Adama staying for the attack, he appoints [[Romo Lampkin]] as President of the Twelve Colonies. He joins Admiral Hoshi on the last Raptor to leave &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; for the baseship, the Fleet&#039;s new flagship.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar&#039;s followers get in the ship. Baltar enters, but then tells [[Paulla]] that he must stay on the ship. Lee Adama throws Baltar a weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adding to the Battlestar&#039;s attack force, a Number Six leads a large number of [[Cylon Centurion]]s down the [[hangar deck]], some with a red sash painted on them for identification.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 3===&lt;br /&gt;
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* A shot of the Fleet shows that the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] has fully regenerated from its damage from the start of the [[Cylon Civil War]]. It is ready to lead the civilians to safety while &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; goes hunting, retracting its [[flight pod]]s to prep for [[FTL]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama commands a ship-wide readiness report, a sort of countdown.&lt;br /&gt;
* Meanwhile, in sickbay, Layne Ishay prep sickbay for wounded. Laura Roslin assists as best she can.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] are in [[launch tube]]s. The entire Raptor squadron, armed with missiles, have been placed inside the starboard flight pod deck, amidst the ruins of the old [[Galactica Museum]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Gaius Baltar is a soldier protecting the hallways against borders. He is surprised to find [[Caprica-Six]] by his side.&lt;br /&gt;
* In CIC, Ellen Tigh signals that Anders is ready to work.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama gives a final speech, a final understanding and call to arms.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The battlestar jumps only meters from the edge of the Colony--and is immediately besieged by the Cylon batteries.&lt;br /&gt;
* With little time, Sam Anders attempts to make contact with the Colony Hybrids--and takes them offline, apparently by causing them to go into a state of ecstasy. Ellen warns that [[Cylon Raider]]s will appear any minute.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; responds by launching its fighter wings. The Vipers launch, and the Raptors jump directly from within the starboard pod--causing incredible damage to the pod as it vents open--but now placing themselves on the opposite side of the Colony in a flanking position.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama orders the battlestar&#039;s engines at flank speed. He rams the alligator head into the Colony. &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; inhabitants take a beating, but so does the Colony. The Colonials have breeched it, forming an entrance. Lee Adama leads his marines and several Cylon Centurions inside from a front airlock. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sharon Agathon]] and Helo&#039;s Raptor make their way to the Colony&#039;s interior.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Racetrack]] and [[Skulls]] arm their nuclear missiles, presumably to strike the colony after the rescue. But suddenly a piece of debris strikes their Raptor, killing all aboard and leaving the Raptor adrift.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Raptors breech another section of the Colony, and their teams enter.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Deep inside the Colony, a [[Simon]] works on young Hera as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] looks on in disgust. When she questions why he continues to work on Hera, the Simon explains that they maintain and superior force and numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
* Suddenly, Boomer assaults the Simon, snapping his neck. She takes Hera out of the room.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 4===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Colony&#039;s halls are filled with gunfire. Cylon Centurions, including older [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Model 0005s]] fight each other as the Colonial fire teams push through.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cavil]], a [[Number Five]] and another Simon decide to go on the defensive, to attack the battlestar with their troops.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In a hallway in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, ready to repel boarders, Caprica-Six and Baltar come to terms with their old relationship. As they kiss, they hear a Six&#039;s voice. &amp;quot;All of the pieces are falling into place.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* The Virtual Six--&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; the Virtual Baltar--stand above them. To the surprise of Caprica-Six and Baltar, they can hear and see each of the avatars.&lt;br /&gt;
* With a shudder, the battlestar hull is breeched as waves of enemy Centurions, both old-model and modern, pour into the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Agathon&#039;s team find Boomer, holding Hera. She gives the child to them, telling them to tell Admiral Adama that she &amp;quot;owed him one.&amp;quot; With the child safe, Athena shoots Boomer.&lt;br /&gt;
* A flashback scene shows what Boomer meant: a time back in her days on &#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, as Adama and Tigh redress her but give her another chance to be a better pilot.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ishay has her hands full in sickbay, trying to triage and treat as many people as she can. The event is taxing, physically and mentally, for Roslin, as she comforts more dying than not.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama&#039;s team connects with Starbuck&#039;s team, with Hera in tow. When Lee asks where Thrace was, she answers, &amp;quot;Stopped for coffee.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This might be the one time in the history of the series where an obvious joke to [[w:Starbucks Coffee|Starbucks Coffee]] has been used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With their objective complete and no other battlestar patrols found, they head back to the battlestar&#039;s alligator-head.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; batteries are being targeted by Raiders. She is losing what little defensive ability she has left. Enemy forces are coming at the reserve forces--where Baltar waits.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 5===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Caprica-Six and Baltar hold off the enemy Centurions. Baltar&#039;s passion at killing Centurions gets a bit out of control as Lee Adama&#039;s team reenter the battlestar with Hera. As more enemies appear, Lee and Baltar fire away.&lt;br /&gt;
* Laura Roslin sits and experiences yet another vision of the [[Opera House]] and little Hera. Struggling to walk, driven by something she can&#039;t fully realize, she gets up to find Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
* Starbuck leads the Agathons through the hallways, but a Number Five appears, seriously wounding Helo in the leg and killing a marine before Starbuck eliminates him. In the confusion, Hera runs away. Athena runs after her.&lt;br /&gt;
* Hera walks amidst the gunfighting, when soon she encounters Roslin, who pulls out of the path of an enemy patrol and to safety. But when Roslin turns back to the child, she is gone again.&lt;br /&gt;
* Caprica-Six and Baltar are running, and are out of ammo. Suddenly they see Hera, as well as Roslin and Athena--all grouped together as in the Opera House vision. Caprica-Six scoops up the child and enters a hallway, closing the hatchway, preventing Athena and Roslin from following. THe opera house vision had Caprica-Six and Baltar closing the door on boht Athena and Roslin after picking up Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
* As the scene shifts between visions of the Opera House and the corridors, Baltar and Caprica-Six realize what they must do: They follow their vision into the Opera House--which turns out to be CIC, where the Final Five reside, overlooking the lower deck of CIC as they appeared in the vision, standing above.&lt;br /&gt;
* Suddenly Cavil, a Number Five and a Simon enter the room. Cavil grabs Hera as a shield.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar pleads for the child&#039;s freedom, telling Cavil that Hera is key to humanity&#039;s survival as well. He reasons with Cavil that there are higher forces at work, that led them all, here, for a reason. When Cavil questions if God has his people&#039;s interests at heart, on how Baltar knows that God is on his side, Baltar replies (in an allusion of something [[Miniseries, Part 1|he once said to the virtual Six]]), &amp;quot;God is not on any one&#039;s side.&amp;quot; The Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar look on with a pleased expression.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar asks Cavil to take a leap of faith. Saul Tigh sweetens the pot by offering to reteach Cavil the secret of [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]], this time in exchange not only for Hera&#039;s life but for permanent peace, where the Cylons leave humanity alone.&lt;br /&gt;
* Cavil agrees. He uses the Battlestar comm to order his forces to stand down and releases Hera. Admiral Adama orders stand-down as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 6===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Vipers and Raptors return to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039; as Raiders return to the Colony. Laura Roslin joins the admiral in CIC.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Five each know part of the secret to resurrection. They will combine their knowledge by connecting themselves through the water in Ander&#039;s tank. Ellen Tigh tells the others that the process will also share memories as well as data.&lt;br /&gt;
* But before they begin, [[Tory Foster]], visibly anxious, warns the others that they will see &amp;quot;certain things&amp;quot; of their bad behavior. She tries to prepare the others of what they will see of her. An impatient Cavil screams. &amp;quot;I don&#039;t mean to rush you, but you are keeping two civilizations waiting!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* The Five dip their hands and make the connection. As the data flows to the Colony, Foster&#039;s visions of murdering [[Cally Tyrol]] in an effort to protect her secret of being a Cylon comes to the forefront, surprising the others of the Five, and angering [[Galen Tyrol]]  immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tyrol pulls his hand from the pool and wraps both hands tightly around Foster&#039;s neck in a death-grip, eventually snapping her neck.&lt;br /&gt;
* As Anders screams from the sudden disconnection, the Cylons in CIC believe they are deceived and open fire. The Colonials kill all but Cavil, who shouts an exasperated &amp;quot;[[Frak]]!&amp;quot; before putting his pistol in his mouth and pulling the trigger.&lt;br /&gt;
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* High above, as gunfire begins again over &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, [[Racetrack]]&#039;s Raptor drifts, its crew lifeless. A rock strikes the ship, causing Racetrack&#039;s dead hand to strike the firing button to the Raptor&#039;s tactical nuclear missiles, launching them all straight at the Colony.&lt;br /&gt;
* The force of the explosions disable the Colony, pushing it towards the black hole, threatening to take &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama orders Kara Thrace to make a [[blind jump]], but Thrace thinks about [[The Music|the music her father played]], the music that Hera wrote to her. Recalling the mathematical associations she tried to discern from the music, Thrace realizes the music works as a series of FTL coordinates.&lt;br /&gt;
* She punches in the coordinates into the [[Computers|navigation computer]] and jumps the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A flashback scene appears where Lee Adama and Kara Thrace talk about how she [[The Destiny|thinks about death]] every time she gets into a cockpit.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; completes the jump--but the strain of the last battle causes the battlestar&#039;s structure to ripple and twist as structural members tear and break. The ship will never jump again. Engines and life support are okay, but &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; backbone is broken.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Where have you taken us, Kara?&amp;quot; Roslin asks, as the scene changes to an exterior shot to show the battlestar flying over a gray, rocky moon.&lt;br /&gt;
* But is not just a moon...&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has arrived at the &#039;&#039;moon of Earth&#039;&#039;...another Earth, this one with the continent of Africa in prominent view.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 7===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Fleet jumps into Earth orbit as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; passes by. A Raptor came to Hoshi to guide them to Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
* Landing ship after landing ship leave for the new world.&lt;br /&gt;
* On a green, rich savannah in Africa, Admiral Adama, Cottle, Saul Tigh, Hoshi, and Baltar look on, lying prone on their stomachs with binoculars at a tribe of early humans. Cottle confirms that the native humans are compatible with the Colonials genetically.&lt;br /&gt;
* At a camp, as Lampkin considers a building of a new city, Lee Adama tells him to let humanity start all over again, leave their technology behind, which has almost always gotten them into trouble. Let the Colonials enter Earth with just their basic possessions.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama maps out a plan to populate various continents and land masses, spreading out humanity and Cylon far and wide, distributing supplies to give all a good chance of survival.  To Lampkin&#039;s surprise, the peoples of the Fleet take a liking to leaving technology behind.&lt;br /&gt;
* A [[Number Two]] tells Adama that the remaining Twos, Sixes, and Eights will stay on Earth as well, handing over the baseship to the Centurions, to give them their own freedom. When Lampkin questions if setting the Centurions free won&#039;t cause another holocaust hundreds of years from now, Ellen Tigh agrees it&#039;s a risk, but believes the cycle of death has been ended. Adama agrees.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama tells that, after everyone is offloaded from the ships, the Fleet will reunite with &#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; a final time. Piloted by Samuel Anders, still in his tank in CIC,  connected into the battlestar, he will fly all the ships on a final voyage into the Sun.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Kara Thrace, eyes filled with tears, meets with Anders at his tank, kissing him goodbye for the last time, and leaving her [[dog tags]]. As she leaves, he mutters, &amp;quot;I&#039;ll see you on the other side.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 8===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral William Adama descends into the hangar deck, wearing a [[flight suit]]. The deck is otherwise completely empty of anything, and anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
* He takes a seat in a [[Viper Mark II]]. Not just any Mark II...but the one that Galen Tyrol&#039;s team rebuilt for him as a retirement gift [[Miniseries, Night 1|so long ago]].&lt;br /&gt;
* As Adama&#039;s Viper launches, the scene shifts to six years prior, where Adama is taking a lie detector test for the prospective desk job. When the test administrator asks him test questions such as, &amp;quot;Are you a Cylon?&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Have you ever stolen money from a cash drawer?&amp;quot; Adama is angered and leaves, saying, &amp;quot;I&#039;d rather spend the rest of my career--what&#039;s left of it--on a broken old down ship, than to have someone sit here and question my word.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Husker&#039;s Viper makes a final fly-by of the old battlestar, looking at her one last time before pointing his Viper towards Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Samuel Anders&#039; voice from the past talks of his days in sport, dreaming of perfection, and being linked to it, to creation, as Anders guides the Fleet, now united to the mathematical perfection he once spoke of through his duties as a Hybrid.&lt;br /&gt;
* As a version of the [[Original Series]] main theme plays, the scene shows &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and the Fleet gathered a final time, heading away from Earth and towards the sun to its demise.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Walking in the savannah, the Tighs speak with Galen Tyrol a final time. He has decided to go to the northern highlands of Earth, what will likely be Ireland or Iceland. The scene shifts to the Tighs, partying back in Caprica City, once upon a time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 9===&lt;br /&gt;
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* On the plains, Bill Adama sits with Laura Roslin, watching herds of gazelle. Her vision weakening, she tries to use her glasses with the binoculars. &amp;quot;A very beautiful world,&amp;quot; she says. When she asks what the name of the planet is, Adama tells her it&#039;s Earth. He adds, &amp;quot;Earth is a dream,&amp;quot; believing that their new home, a long-sought destination, deserves the name.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin&#039;s breathing becomes labored and shallow. Adama offers to give her a better look at the wildlife. He picks her up and carries her to a nearby Raptor.&lt;br /&gt;
* Lee Adama and Kara Thrace notice and meet Bill Adama there. The Adamas hug, and Bill Adama gives Thrace a final greeting of &amp;quot;[[Nothing but the rain]]&amp;quot; before he hugs and kisses her. Thrace and Lee wave goodbye to a smiling Roslin as the Raptor ascends.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee realizes that his father isn&#039;t coming back. Kara Thrace tells Lee that she isn&#039;t coming back, either. &amp;quot;I just know that I am done here. I&#039;ve completed my journey...and it feels good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* A flashback scene, back in Thrace&#039;s apartment, where Thrace dares Lee to make love to her on her dining room table. But before they could do anything, the crash of a glass partially awakens Zak, causing the two to realize what they were doing. They shake hands and say goodbye.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Lee,&amp;quot; Kara Thrace says. As Lee tells her of desire to explore and climb mountains, he turns to find that Kara Thrace has vanished, as if she were a ghost. &amp;quot;Goodbye, Kara,&amp;quot; he says. &amp;quot;You won&#039;t be forgotten.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* A flashback scene shows the pigeon that would be trapped in Lee&#039;s apartment after his visit to Kara and Zak. It looks at Lee and flies out of the window and away.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In another flashback from six years prior, Laura Roslin returns to stand by the side of the bed, thanks Sean Allison, but tells him that they will not meet this way again, and asks him to leave. As the man leaves, Roslin returns to her bathroom, lights a cigarette, then makes a phone call. She accepts the opportunity to work on Mayor [[Richard Adar]]&#039;s campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama&#039;s Raptor flies over flamingos. &amp;quot;So much..life,&amp;quot; Laura Roslin says...her final words as she closes her eyes and quietly passes.&lt;br /&gt;
* Moments go by before Bill realizes that she is gone.&lt;br /&gt;
* In tears, Bill removes his wedding ring and places it on Laura&#039;s hand. &amp;quot;Right there...I&#039;m going to build our cabin right there,&amp;quot; he says, pointing to some hills.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 10===&lt;br /&gt;
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* A line of people walk into the wilderness, calm and ready to take on the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Agathons walk as well, Helo using a makeshift crutch, talking of hunting and other pleasantries. Hera runs about in play, a smile on her face.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Gaius Baltar and Caprica-Six look on at Hera playing as the Virtual Six and Baltar reappear. When Caprica-Six questions if the protection of Hera was all that God wanted of them, the Virtual Six replies, &amp;quot;God&#039;s plan is never complete.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Great...&amp;quot; Baltar replies sullenly.&lt;br /&gt;
* Virtual-Baltar counters, &amp;quot;I think it&#039;s safe to say that, from now on, your lives will be less...eventful.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Another flashback to Caprica City. Baltar offers Caprica-Six an opportunity to &amp;quot;peek&amp;quot; into the [[Colonial Defense Mainframe]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Baltar points to some land, he recalls his heritage, and [[Junius Baltar|his father]], and that he knows a bit about farming, to a bit of tears.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama sits, looking out into the hills and valley. &amp;quot;I laid out the cabin today. It&#039;s going to have an easterly view. You should see the light that we get here. When the sun comes from behind those mountains. It&#039;s almost heavenly. It reminds me of you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* As he speaks, the camera pans up to show Adama, seated near the cairn he built for Laura Roslin&#039;s body.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scene turns to show Hera playing and looking upward. Scenes of wood and desert and sea pass by in a geologic montage to reveal an Earth city--New York City--150,000 years ahead in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As a fly-over of the city appears, a voice-over of Virtual-Six reads from a magazine article of the Tanzanian discovery of the bones of what scientists believe our the remains of the [[w:mitochondrial Eve|mitochondrial Eve]], the matrilineal common ancestor of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
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* As [[Ron D. Moore|Ron D. Moore reads]] about the scientific discovery, the Virtual Six and Baltar look over his shoulder at a magazine article of the news, and reveal what they know...the bones are that of Hera Agathon, born of a Cylon mother and a human father. No other people on the street appear to notice them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The two talk of the technology and decadence, of whether this Earth will repeat the mistakes of generations past and again become overwhelmed by their creations. The Six thinks not, believing it to be God&#039;s plan.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;You know it doesn&#039;t like that name,&amp;quot; Baltar says. Six only looks back in mild defiance. &amp;quot;Silly. Silly me,&amp;quot; he replies as the two walk away into the metropolis.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The episode concludes with scenes of robots, from toys to advanced automatons growing and evolving, as Jimi Hendrix&#039;s--Earth&#039;s popular version--of &amp;quot;[[The Music|All Along The Watchtower]]&amp;quot; plays.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The story ends.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes  ==&lt;br /&gt;
*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Rapture]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Part I had a runtime of one hour, Part II will run for two hours. An even longer cut of Daybreak will later be released on DVD. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite_news|first=|last=|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/07/talking-battles.html|title=Talking &#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;s&#039; finale, &#039;Caprica&#039; and the &#039;Battlestar&#039; TV movie with Ron Moore}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*There was no final population count given after the engagement with the Cavil forces. However, there were no reported deaths by accident or violence before the engagement so the population count is most likely the same as it was in &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part I]]&amp;quot; before the attack on the Cylon Colony, 39,516. &lt;br /&gt;
*There is a poetic ring to the nature of the conflict of the Second Cylon War. It began with the Cylon attack on Colonies nearly wiping out mankind. It ended with the Colonial attack on the Cylon Colony very likely wiping out the Cylons who didn&#039;t join with the humans. This is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]&#039;s observation of him being President of it being &amp;quot;Poetic justice&amp;quot; and Lee Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;What goes around, comes around&amp;quot; since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician. &lt;br /&gt;
*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate forethought, gave Caprica Six the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it.  &lt;br /&gt;
*This episode marks the deaths of [[Boomer]], [[Cavil]], [[Racetrack]], [[Skulls]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Laura Roslin]] and the destruction of Cavil&#039;s forces. The [[Doral]] and [[Simon]] lines are also presumably wiped out, or at least decimated beyond recovery. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and her whereabouts are unknown. In detail:&lt;br /&gt;
**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with [[Helo]] and beating her in the lavatory.&lt;br /&gt;
**Cavil took his own life in Galactica&#039;s CIC when his side lost.&lt;br /&gt;
***It is unknown what happened to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line.  The death of only a single Cavil is depicted.&lt;br /&gt;
**Racetrack and Skulls&#039;s Raptor was stuck by a meteor penetrating their wind screen and striking them. Both Skulls and Racetrack were killed on impact. Racetrack&#039;s dead hand later hit the launch button that launched the nuclear missiles after her Raptor was hit again by a asteroid.&lt;br /&gt;
**Tory was killed by [[Galen Tyrol]] in revenge for Tory killing his wife [[Cally]] after he learned Tory murdered her during the mutual and involuntary exchange of private information of the [[Final Five]]&#039;s minds while downloading Resurrection technology data to the Cavil forces.&lt;br /&gt;
**Anders guided himself in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and the Fleet into the Sun. &lt;br /&gt;
**Roslin died of cancer as Adama was giving her a bird&#039;s eye view of their new home on second Earth in a Raptor. &lt;br /&gt;
**Since they did not have either Cylon females or Resurrection the Cavil, Simon and Doral models on the various Cylon Baseships presumably died out after their natural life spans were exhausted. &lt;br /&gt;
**Kara was presumably taken by the same force, probably God, that resurrected her. &lt;br /&gt;
*This episode also marks the destruction of the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her Fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth, and the humans of today are the Colonials&#039;, and probably the Rebel Cylons&#039;, descendants 150,000 years later. The [[Leoben]]s, [[Six]]s and [[Sharon]] models from the Baseship joined the Colonials on the new Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
*The tracing of the human blood line through [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial DNA|Mitochondrial DNA]] to a common ancestor and dubbing her [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] is a real theory.  Mitochondrial Eve was the &#039;&#039;matrilineal most recent common ancestor&#039;&#039;, the most recent person in the female line that all of humanity can be said to be from. In other words, Hera is everybody&#039;s mother&#039;s mother&#039;s ... mother&#039;s mother. This does NOT imply that she is the only ancestor of modern humans. In fact, it implies that each female alive at the time either has no surviving descendants, or is ALSO a common ancestor (though not a purely matrilineal one).&lt;br /&gt;
** In the series, Hera is Mitochondrial Eve, meaning that all of modern humanity is a combination of what the Colonials considered humanity and Cylon, thus fulfilling the prophecies about the &amp;quot;end&amp;quot; of the human race.&lt;br /&gt;
** The fossilized remains are said to be of a young woman, indicating Hera does not live to see a middle age, though she has children before she dies. Specifically, she must have daughters to pass on her (Cylon) mitochondrial DNA.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Centurions are granted full independence and subsequently depart in the rebel Baseship to pursue their own destiny. Their status 150,000 years later remains a mystery. The Colonials and humanoid Cylons believe it is unlikely they will be a threat, as they have no reason to bear a grudge this time around.&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]&#039;&#039;, the command ship of the Global Defence Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game &#039;&#039;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun]&#039;&#039; is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.&lt;br /&gt;
*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all.  In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, &amp;quot;Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe&amp;quot;, W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver.  [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*The coordinates that Thrace enters, 1123 / 6536 / 5321 correspond to the notation of the Final Four theme [http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/theme-watchtower.jpg]. The song is in a C# Phrygian scale (enharmonic with A major and F# minor). 1 represents C#, and each higher integer indicates the next note in the scale, such that&lt;br /&gt;
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:1 = C#&lt;br /&gt;
:2 = D&lt;br /&gt;
:3 = E&lt;br /&gt;
:(4 = F#)&lt;br /&gt;
:5 = G#&lt;br /&gt;
:6 = A&lt;br /&gt;
:(7 = B)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The linked graphic omits the first and last note of the theme, but both can be heard in the soundtrack during the jump montage. The second &amp;quot;five&amp;quot; (in the third chunk of four digits) corresponds to the tuplet G#/A/G#, effectively omitting the trill up to high A. Every note has the same duration except for the last two, which are twice the length of the others.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Virtual Beings are angels of God who came to guide Baltar and Caprica Six in their destiny of protecting Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kara Thrace is an angel who was sent back from the dead to guide humanity to a new home the coordinates of which were hidden in The Music.&lt;br /&gt;
*It is possible that some Baseships of Ones, Fours, and Fives were not at the [[Colony]] when it was destroyed, given the fact that they were observed jumping in and out of the system by Racetrack and Skulls. However, as noted in the &amp;quot;Notes&amp;quot; section it is unlikely that the Cavil, Simon and Doral lines will continue without Cylon females. The [[Three]]s are extinct with the last copy [[D&#039;Anna Biers]] herself dying on the original Earth; Boomer killed in the Colony (and in anycase couldn&#039;t single handedly save the lines even if she were alive); and the last Sixes and Eights staying with the humans on the second Earth. However, there is the possibility of having a few remaining human females from the survivors of the various Colonial worlds including [[Caprica]] being viable, so the lines could in theory continue. However, given the total lack of success in the forced breeding of Cylons and humans and the Cavil, Dorals and Simon&#039;s cynical view of love, an apparent requirement of conception between both Cylon-Cylon and Cylon-human combinations, it is unlikely. &lt;br /&gt;
*On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and [[Boxey (RDM)|slightly older]] in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age.  It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.    &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] appears as himself holding a &#039;&#039;National Geographic&#039;&#039; magazine in New York City. &lt;br /&gt;
*The shelters erected by the Colonials on Earth resemble [[Wikipedia:Quonset hut|Quonset huts]], World War II-era temporary structures.&lt;br /&gt;
*The final scenes of this episode, in fast-forwarding through time and attempting to set the entire work as a backstory, make the ending similar to that of the film [[Wikipedia:How the West Was Won (film)|How the West Was Won]].&lt;br /&gt;
* There are at least two distinct angels. They have known each other long and born witness to Kobol and the original Earth, as well as the Twelve Colonies and the new Earth. They can walk around and observe events even when no one else present can see them.&lt;br /&gt;
* In another piece of irony, the two beings most directly responsible for the attack and destruction of the 12 Colonies, Gaius Baltar and Caprica Six, get to live on a lush green New Earth in love with each other.&lt;br /&gt;
* Even if humanity does repeat the cycle, Lee Adama&#039;s plan would seem to have had some success, because it will have taken much, much longer to do so this time around.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ellen says that hopefully the Hybrids will &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; respond to Anders&#039; commands. In other words, they would recognize him from the time the Final Five ran the Colony.&lt;br /&gt;
* Though apparently none of the Final Five will have biological offspring, they can be considered ancestors of present-day humanity because they created Athena and the other Eights, Twos, and Sixes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions  ==&lt;br /&gt;
* What becomes of the Centurions?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do they go after the remnants of Cavil&#039;s forces, or go their separate ways?&lt;br /&gt;
** Will the freed Centurions eventually develop their own humanoid forms, or develop in a completely other direction?&lt;br /&gt;
** If there are descendants of the Centurions 150,000 years later, do they remember their history?&lt;br /&gt;
* Did any copies of Cavil, Doral, or Simon survive?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why does Cavil choose to commit suicide?&lt;br /&gt;
* What becomes of the Baseships seen orbiting the Colony?&lt;br /&gt;
* Are any other human-Cylon hybrids born on Earth, or do the Twos, Sixes, and Eights remain childless?&lt;br /&gt;
* If &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t like to be called [[God (RDM)|God]], what does &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; like to be called?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will modern humans discover remains of Colonial technology such as Raptors?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why do the angels still look like Baltar and Six 150,000 years later?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will humanity repeat the Cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
* Are Thrace and Anders together after Thrace&#039;s disappearance?&lt;br /&gt;
* Can Thrace ever return again?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do Baltar and Caprica-Six marry? Do they go into isolation like Adama and Tyrol, or will they be near a human colony?&lt;br /&gt;
* Since Caprica Six and Gaius Baltar genuinely love each other, do they eventually have a child?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do Adama and Tyrol stay isolated for the rest of their lives?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Romo Lampkin chosen as President?  Wouldn&#039;t a member of the Quorum of Captains have been selected?&lt;br /&gt;
* What became of the remaining prisoners aboard the &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;[[Astral Queen]]&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;?  Were they sent out amongst the rest of the human population, or were all of them deposited in some geographical area completely isolated from the other humans?  &lt;br /&gt;
* Were any of the groups provided with medicine, or medical training or at least someone with medical knowledge before spreading out among the world?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is God related to the Lords of Kobol or something completely different?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why did the First Hybrid not want humanity to follow Thrace?&lt;br /&gt;
* How many angels are there? Are the ones that resemble Six and Baltar the same as those that appeared to the Final Five and Thrace, or distinct?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why have angels not been appearing to the Final Five since Old Earth&#039;s destruction, only to Baltar, Six, and Thrace?&lt;br /&gt;
* Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will analysis of Hera&#039;s remains reveal that she was not a normal human?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is the evolution of humans on two planets due to the same divine hand that&#039;s been guiding other events?&lt;br /&gt;
* Does human life evolve on planets other than Kobol and the new Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who did Hera eventually have children with? A human or a Cylon? &lt;br /&gt;
* Was it coincidence or divine intervention that an asteroid caused Racetrack&#039;s hand to hit the launch button for the nuclear weapons at the exact right moment?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Galactica able to jump without retracting its [[flight pods]] when escaping from the Colony? Did this cause Galactica to break its backbone?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will modern humanity venture out into space and discover places such as Kobol, the original Earth, the Twelve Colonies, and New Caprica?&lt;br /&gt;
* How close are the two Earths? The [[Tomb of Athena]] starmap showed constellations known on the second Earth, but was supposed to have been the sky as seen from the first. Does this mean they are very close indeed?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Starbuck not aware of her true nature until after her role had been fulfilled?&lt;br /&gt;
* In what part of Earth (a northerly island with &amp;quot;highlands&amp;quot;) did Galen Tyrol settle? Scotland?&lt;br /&gt;
* What is the nature of Starbuck&#039;s journey to the First Earth, crash, and return in the unscathed Viper? How did she &amp;quot;jump&amp;quot; to its coordinates? If her return was engineered by God to use her as an angel and bring humanity to Earth, why do so in a way that raised more questions about how it occurred than it answered?&lt;br /&gt;
* In what way, if any, did Starbuck fulfill her [[The Destiny|destiny]] as the &amp;quot;harbinger of death&amp;quot; that would lead humanity to its &amp;quot;end&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
* How did the proto-Greek polytheistic religion of the Colonies survive nearly 150,000 years before being revived in garbled form with the rise of Greek civilization? Did it die out in practice but return through the universal subconscious?&lt;br /&gt;
* In what way, if any, did the Cylons&#039; monotheistic religion and the Colonies&#039; polytheistic religion intertwine? Did they coexist peacefully, or were there conflicts? Do modern monotheistic religions trace their traditions ultimately to those of the Cylons and the [[Cult of Baltar]]?&lt;br /&gt;
* During the lie detector test in the flashback scene of William Adama&#039;s attempt to secure a civilian job, why did the interrogator ask him if he was a Cylon? At that point in history, it was unknown that the Cylons had humanoid appearance.&lt;br /&gt;
**The question was likely a control question to establish how a truthful response to an absurd question would register.&lt;br /&gt;
* Even after committing the fleet to destruction, there are still serviceable Raptors on the surface of Earth, which are jump-capable. Would any of the surviving humans or Cylons come to regret having settled on a primitive world without technology and decide to return to the stars in search of resources or other habitable planets? Is there any [[tylium]] available on Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Assuming that (as Tigh indicated to Adama in [[Revelations]]) the Final Five Cylons age but the rest do not, what will become of Caprica-Six, Athena, and any other survivors of the non-Final Five models? How will Helo and Baltar cope with the non-aging of their spouses as they themselves age?&lt;br /&gt;
* Did the old-style [[Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] on the Colony fight for Cavil because they had [[telencephalic inhibitor]]s, or of their own free will? If the latter, why?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Silly me.... silly, silly me.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Virtual Baltar in the last line of the series.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Not to rush you or anything, but you are keeping two entire civilizations waiting!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Cavil to the Final Five&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Frak!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Cavil&#039;s last word before he blows his brains out.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Can we &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; tell her the plan?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Right.&amp;quot; (Athena kills Boomer)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Starbuck and Athena about Boomer before Athena kills her.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There must be some kind of way out of here.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Starbuck attempting to figure out the jump coordinates.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;All of this has happened before...&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;But does it all have to happen again?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar speculating if the cycle will continue.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;See you on the other side&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Samuel Anders&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest Stars  ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Number Four]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Sherman Cottle]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kerry Norton]] as [[Layne Ishay]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Number One]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brenden &amp;quot;Hotdog&amp;quot; Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Colin Lawrence]] as Ensign [[Hamish McCall|Hamish &amp;quot;Skulls&amp;quot; McCall]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lara Gilchrist]] as [[Paulla Schaffer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Marine [[Allan Nowart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leela Savasta]] as [[Tracey Anne]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Darcy Laurie]] as [[Dealino]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] as [[Hera Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tobias Mehler]] as [[Zak Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Simone Bailly]] as [[Shona]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kevin McNulty]] as [[Frank Porthos]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Richard Jollymore]] as Marine #1&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anthony St. John]] as Marine #2&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dan Payne]] as [[Sean Allison]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Holly Eglinton]] as Stripper&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]] (uncredited)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] as Man at news stand (uncredited)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Episodes written by Ronald D. Moore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Episodes directed by Michael Rymer]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* Analysis */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve&#039;s remains haven&#039;t been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;&#039;Y-chromosomal Adam&#039;&#039; reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo&#039;s adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some  (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he&#039;d be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Daybreak,_Part_II/Archive_1&amp;diff=176801</id>
		<title>Talk:Daybreak, Part II/Archive 1</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Daybreak,_Part_II/Archive_1&amp;diff=176801"/>
		<updated>2009-03-22T18:11:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* Hera&amp;#039;s Mate = Boxey? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gully</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Daybreak,_Part_II&amp;diff=176760</id>
		<title>Daybreak, Part II</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* Act 10 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Episode Data&lt;br /&gt;
| image=Daybreak Teaser.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| title= Daybreak, Part II (&amp;amp; Part III)&lt;br /&gt;
| season= 4&lt;br /&gt;
| episode= 20&lt;br /&gt;
| guests= &lt;br /&gt;
| writer= [[Ronald D. Moore]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://rondmoore.com/Site/Blog/Entries/2008/4/18_Podcast_Success!.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| story=&lt;br /&gt;
| director= [[Michael Rymer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| production=422&lt;br /&gt;
| rating=&lt;br /&gt;
| US airdate=March 20, 2009 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://tv.ign.com/articles/920/920164p1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| CAN airdate=March 20, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| UK airdate=March 24, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| dvd=&lt;br /&gt;
| population=&lt;br /&gt;
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| next=[[The Plan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 1===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The final episode begins with a series of events before before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall]].&lt;br /&gt;
*  In a strip bar in [[Caprica City]], [[William Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh|Saul]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] enjoy themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama questions whether to take a civilian job, rather than to take command of an aged battlestar&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This is a side reference to the events of the episode, &amp;quot;[[Hero]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Over drinks, Adama decides to take the job.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elsewhere on Caprica, [[Lee Adama]] is having dinner with [[Kara Thrace]] and her fiancee, [[Zak Adama]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Zak questions why his brother joined the [[Colonial Forces]], despite Lee&#039;s idealism and his dislike of his father. Lee simply answers that he received college funding in exchange for service.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elsewhere, [[Laura Roslin]] greets her date, [[Sean Allison]], at her home. After realizing he seemed familiar, Roslin finally recalls where she had seen him. Sean was a former student from years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite the age difference, Roslin decides to let him stay the night. &amp;quot;The night&#039;s young. Apparently, so are you,&amp;quot; she says. &amp;quot;Let&#039;s see what happens.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Back at the strip bar, Bill Adama challenges Saul on whether he&#039;d take the civilian desk job. Saul doesn&#039;t answer.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama and Thrace manage to drag Zak back to the apartment after a night of drinking. But Thrace isn&#039;t done, and pulls out more alcohol for shots between her and Lee.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama is drunkenly sick, vomiting outside somewhere on the street. With a weak smile, he looks up to the stars in the night sky.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scene shifts back to present day on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, where [[Gaius Baltar]] sits in the former home of his [[Cult of Baltar|followers]], now empty.&lt;br /&gt;
* He listens to the [[Virtual Beings|virtual Six]], telling him to trust in [[God (RDM)|God&#039;s plan]] for him. When he asks what that plan is, she tells him that he already following it.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 2=== &lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; [[sickbay]], Dr. [[Cottle]] (who will not be staying aboard the ship for the battle) leaves assistant [[Layne Ishay]] two injections of heavy medication to allow Laura Roslin enough lucidity and mobility for 48 hours. She thanks him sincerely, causing Cottle to be something he&#039;d rarely been: speechless.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the [[pilot ready room]], [[Karl Agathon]] briefs the [[Raptor]] teams on the special nature of their rescue mission. Despite the odds, all volunteer.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama briefs the [[marines]] on where little Hera would likely be: deep inside the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[The Colony|colony]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama work out the tactics of the battle against the colony. Close-range combat; nuclear weapons and missiles will not be possible for the battlestar. He orders the gun [[battery|batteries]] to fire until exhausted, and after that, &amp;quot;start throwing rocks,&amp;quot; he says with a small smile.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[Final Five]] plan out what they can offer as well. As befitting a cybernetic race, they consider a tactic used by Cylons in the past. They will use [[Samuel Anders]], now effectively a [[Hybrid]] on &#039;&#039;[[Galactica]]&#039;&#039;, to interface with the Colony and its Hybrids to interrupt their commands, slowing the effectiveness of the Colony&#039;s weapon systems.&lt;br /&gt;
* The catch is that Anders will need to be connected to the [[DRADIS]], fire control and [[C-3]] systems. They plan to take Anders and connect him inside [[CIC]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama hands over command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to [[Hoshi]], noting that if they aren&#039;t back from the mission in 12 hours, they will never come back.&lt;br /&gt;
* In CIC, Saul Tigh jokes at his old friend at the bizarre sight of a Cylon interfaced to his battlestar, gooey wires and conduit that extend over Adama&#039;s command console everywhere and into the DRADIS console. &amp;quot;Still not too late to flush them all out of the airlock,&amp;quot; Tigh quips. &amp;quot;Take too much time,&amp;quot; Adama answers. &lt;br /&gt;
* With Lee Adama staying for the attack, he appoints [[Romo Lampkin]] as President of the Twelve Colonies. He joins Admiral Hoshi on the last Raptor to leave &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; for the baseship, the Fleet&#039;s new flagship.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar&#039;s followers get in the ship. Baltar enters, but then tells [[Paulla]] that he must stay on the ship. Lee Adama throws Baltar a weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adding to the Battlestar&#039;s attack force, a Number Six leads a large number of [[Cylon Centurion]]s down the [[hangar deck]], some with a red sash painted on them for identification.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 3===&lt;br /&gt;
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* A shot of the Fleet shows that the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] has fully regenerated from its damage from the start of the [[Cylon Civil War]]. It is ready to lead the civilians to safety while &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; goes hunting, retracting its [[flight pod]]s to prep for [[FTL]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama commands a ship-wide readiness report, a sort of countdown.&lt;br /&gt;
* Meanwhile, in sickbay, Layne Ishay prep sickbay for wounded. Laura Roslin assists as best she can.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] are in [[launch tube]]s. The entire Raptor squadron, armed with missiles, have been placed inside the starboard flight pod deck, amidst the ruins of the old [[Galactica Museum]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Gaius Baltar is a soldier protecting the hallways against borders. He is surprised to find [[Caprica-Six]] by his side.&lt;br /&gt;
* In CIC, Ellen Tigh signals that Anders is ready to work.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama gives a final speech, a final understanding and call to arms.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The battlestar jumps only meters from the edge of the Colony--and is immediately besieged by the Cylon batteries.&lt;br /&gt;
* With little time, Sam Anders attempts to make contact with the Colony Hybrids--and takes them offline, apparently by causing them to go into a state of ecstasy. Ellen warns that [[Cylon Raider]]s will appear any minute.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; responds by launching its fighter wings. The Vipers launch, and the Raptors jump directly from within the starboard pod--causing incredible damage to the pod as it vents open--but now placing themselves on the opposite side of the Colony in a flanking position.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama orders the battlestar&#039;s engines at flank speed. He rams the alligator head into the Colony. &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; inhabitants take a beating, but so does the Colony. The Colonials have breeched it, forming an entrance. Lee Adama leads his marines and several Cylon Centurions inside from a front airlock. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sharon Agathon]] and Helo&#039;s Raptor make their way to the Colony&#039;s interior.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Racetrack]] and [[Skulls]] arm their nuclear missiles, presumably to strike the colony after the rescue. But suddenly a piece of debris strikes their Raptor, killing all aboard and leaving the Raptor adrift.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Raptors breech another section of the Colony, and their teams enter.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Deep inside the Colony, a [[Simon]] works on young Hera as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] looks on in disgust. When she questions why he continues to work on Hera, the Simon explains that they maintain and superior force and numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
* Suddenly, Boomer assaults the Simon, snapping his neck. She takes Hera out of the room.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 4===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Colony&#039;s halls are filled with gunfire. Cylon Centurions, including older [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Model 0005s]] fight each other as the Colonial fire teams push through.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cavil]], a [[Number Five]] and another Simon decide to go on the defensive, to attack the battlestar with their troops.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In a hallway in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, ready to repel boarders, Caprica-Six and Baltar come to terms with their old relationship. As they kiss, they hear a Six&#039;s voice. &amp;quot;All of the pieces are falling into place.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* The Virtual Six--&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; the Virtual Baltar--stand above them. To the surprise of Caprica-Six and Baltar, they can hear and see each of the avatars.&lt;br /&gt;
* With a shudder, the battlestar hull is breeched as waves of enemy Centurions, both old-model and modern, pour into the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Agathon&#039;s team find Boomer, holding Hera. She gives the child to them, telling them to tell Admiral Adama that she &amp;quot;owed him one.&amp;quot; With the child safe, Athena shoots Boomer.&lt;br /&gt;
* A flashback scene shows what Boomer meant: a time back in her days on &#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, as Adama and Tigh redress her but give her another chance to be a better pilot.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ishay has her hands full in sickbay, trying to triage and treat as many people as she can. The event is taxing, physically and mentally, for Roslin, as she comforts more dying than not.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee Adama&#039;s team connects with Starbuck&#039;s team, with Hera in tow. When Lee asks where Thrace was, she answers, &amp;quot;Stopped for coffee.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This might be the one time in the history of the series where an obvious joke to [[w:Starbucks Coffee|Starbucks Coffee]] has been used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With their objective complete and no other battlestar patrols found, they head back to the battlestar&#039;s alligator-head.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; batteries are being targeted by Raiders. She is losing what little defensive ability she has left. Enemy forces are coming at the reserve forces--where Baltar waits.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 5===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Caprica-Six and Baltar hold off the enemy Centurions. Baltar&#039;s passion at killing Centurions gets a bit out of control as Lee Adama&#039;s team reenter the battlestar with Hera. As more enemies appear, Lee and Baltar fire away.&lt;br /&gt;
* Laura Roslin sits and experiences yet another vision of the [[Opera House]] and little Hera. Struggling to walk, driven by something she can&#039;t fully realize, she gets up to find Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
* Starbuck leads the Agathons through the hallways, but a Number Five appears, seriously wounding Helo in the leg and killing a marine before Starbuck eliminates him. In the confusion, Hera runs away. Athena runs after her.&lt;br /&gt;
* Hera walks amidst the gunfighting, when soon she encounters Roslin, who pulls out of the path of an enemy patrol and to safety. But when Roslin turns back to the child, she is gone again.&lt;br /&gt;
* Caprica-Six and Baltar are running, and are out of ammo. Suddenly they see Hera, as well as Roslin and Athena--all grouped together as in the Opera House vision. Caprica-Six scoops up the child and enters a hallway, closing the hatchway, preventing Athena and Roslin from following. THe opera house vision had Caprica-Six and Baltar closing the door on boht Athena and Roslin after picking up Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
* As the scene shifts between visions of the Opera House and the corridors, Baltar and Caprica-Six realize what they must do: They follow their vision into the Opera House--which turns out to be CIC, where the Final Five reside, overlooking the lower deck of CIC as they appeared in the vision, standing above.&lt;br /&gt;
* Suddenly Cavil, a Number Five and a Simon enter the room. Cavil grabs Hera as a shield.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar pleads for the child&#039;s freedom, telling Cavil that Hera is key to humanity&#039;s survival as well. He reasons with Cavil that there are higher forces at work, that led them all, here, for a reason. When Cavil questions if God has his people&#039;s interests at heart, on how Baltar knows that God is on his side, Baltar replies (in an allusion of something [[Miniseries, Part 1|he once said to the virtual Six]]), &amp;quot;God is not on any one&#039;s side.&amp;quot; The Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar look on with a pleased expression.&lt;br /&gt;
* Baltar asks Cavil to take a leap of faith. Saul Tigh sweetens the pot by offering to reteach Cavil the secret of [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]], this time in exchange not only for Hera&#039;s life but for permanent peace, where the Cylons leave humanity alone.&lt;br /&gt;
* Cavil agrees. He uses the Battlestar comm to order his forces to stand down and releases Hera. Admiral Adama orders stand-down as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 6===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Vipers and Raptors return to &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;&#039; as Raiders return to the Colony. Laura Roslin joins the admiral in CIC.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Five each know part of the secret to resurrection. They will combine their knowledge by connecting themselves through the water in Ander&#039;s tank. Ellen Tigh tells the others that the process will also share memories as well as data.&lt;br /&gt;
* But before they begin, [[Tory Foster]], visibly anxious, warns the others that they will see &amp;quot;certain things&amp;quot; of their bad behavior. She tries to prepare the others of what they will see of her. An impatient Cavil screams. &amp;quot;I don&#039;t mean to rush you, but you are keeping two civilizations waiting!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* The Five dip their hands and make the connection. As the data flows to the Colony, Foster&#039;s visions of murdering [[Cally Tyrol]] in an effort to protect her secret of being a Cylon comes to the forefront, surprising the others of the Five, and angering [[Galen Tyrol]]  immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tyrol pulls his hand from the pool and wraps both hands tightly around Foster&#039;s neck in a death-grip, eventually snapping her neck.&lt;br /&gt;
* As Anders screams from the sudden disconnection, the Cylons in CIC believe they are deceived and open fire. The Colonials kill all but Cavil, who shouts an exasperated &amp;quot;[[Frak]]!&amp;quot; before putting his pistol in his mouth and pulling the trigger.&lt;br /&gt;
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* High above, as gunfire begins again over &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039;, [[Racetrack]]&#039;s Raptor drifts, its crew lifeless. A rock strikes the ship, causing Racetrack&#039;s dead hand to strike the firing button to the Raptor&#039;s tactical nuclear missiles, launching them all straight at the Colony.&lt;br /&gt;
* The force of the explosions disable the Colony, pushing it towards the black hole, threatening to take &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; with it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama orders Kara Thrace to make a [[blind jump]], but Thrace thinks about [[The Music|the music her father played]], the music that Hera wrote to her. Recalling the mathematical associations she tried to discern from the music, Thrace realizes the music works as a series of FTL coordinates.&lt;br /&gt;
* She punches in the coordinates into the [[Computers|navigation computer]] and jumps the ship.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A flashback scene appears where Lee Adama and Kara Thrace talk about how she [[The Destiny|thinks about death]] every time she gets into a cockpit.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; completes the jump--but the strain of the last battle causes the battlestar&#039;s structure to ripple and twist as structural members tear and break. The ship will never jump again. Engines and life support are okay, but &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;s&#039;&#039; backbone is broken.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Where have you taken us, Kara?&amp;quot; Roslin asks, as the scene changes to an exterior shot to show the battlestar flying over a gray, rocky moon.&lt;br /&gt;
* But is not just a moon...&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; has arrived at the &#039;&#039;moon of Earth&#039;&#039;...another Earth, this one with the continent of Africa in prominent view.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 7===&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Fleet jumps into Earth orbit as &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; passes by. A Raptor came to Hoshi to guide them to Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
* Landing ship after landing ship leave for the new world.&lt;br /&gt;
* On a green, rich savannah in Africa, Admiral Adama, Cottle, Saul Tigh, Hoshi, and Baltar look on, lying prone on their stomachs with binoculars at a tribe of early humans. Cottle confirms that the native humans are compatible genetically.&lt;br /&gt;
* At a camp, as Lampkin considers a building of a new city, Lee Adama tells him to let humanity start all over again, leave their technology behind, which has almost always gotten them into trouble. Let the Colonials enter Earth with just their basic possessions.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral Adama maps out a plan to populate various continents and land masses, spreading out humanity and Cylon far and wide, distributing supplies to give all a good chance of survival.  To Lampkin&#039;s surprise, the peoples of the Fleet take a liking to leaving technology behind.&lt;br /&gt;
* A [[Number Two]] tells Adama that the remaining Cylons will stay as well on Earth, handing over the baseship to the Centurions, to give them their own freedom. When Lampkin questions if setting the Centurions free won&#039;t cause another holocaust hundreds of years from now, Ellen Tigh agrees it&#039;s a risk, but believes the cycle of death has been ended. Adama agrees.&lt;br /&gt;
* Adama tells that, after everyone is offloaded from the ships, the Fleet will reunite with &#039;&#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; a final time. Piloted by Samuel Anders, still in his tank in CIC,  connected into the battlestar, he will fly all the ships on a final voyage into the Sun.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Kara Thrace, eyes filled with tears, meets with Anders at his tank, kissing him goodbye for the last time, and leaving her [[dog tags]]. As she leaves, he mutters, &amp;quot;I&#039;ll see you on the other side.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 8===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Admiral William Adama descends into the hangar deck, wearing a [[flight suit]]. The deck is otherwise completely empty of anything, and anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
* He takes a seat in a [[Viper Mark II]]. Not just any Mark II...but the one that Galen Tyrol&#039;s team rebuilt for him as a retirement gift [[Miniseries, Night 1|so long ago]].&lt;br /&gt;
* As Adama&#039;s Viper launches, the scene shifts to six years prior, where Adama is taking a lie detector test for the prospective desk job. When the test administrator asks him test questions such as, &amp;quot;Are you a Cylon?&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Have you ever stolen money from a cash drawer?&amp;quot; Adama is angered and leaves, saying, &amp;quot;I&#039;d rather spend the rest of my career--what&#039;s left of it--on a broken old down ship, than to have someone sit here and question my word.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Husker&#039;s Viper makes a final fly-by of the old battlestar, looking at her one last time before pointing his Viper towards Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Samuel Anders&#039;s voice from the past talks of his days in sport, dreaming of perfection, and being linked to it, to creation, as Anders&#039;s guides the Fleet, now united to the mathematical perfection he once spoke of through his duties as a Hybrid.&lt;br /&gt;
* As a version of the [[Original Series]] main theme plays, the scene shows &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and the Fleet gathered a final time, heading away from Earth and towards the sun to its demise.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Walking in the savannah, the Tighs speak with Galen Tyrol a final time. He has decided to go to the northern highlands of Earth, what will likely be Ireland or Iceland. The scene shifts to the Tighs, partying back in Caprica City, once upon a time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 9===&lt;br /&gt;
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* On the plains, Bill Adama sits with Laura Roslin, watching herds of gazelle. Her vision weakening, she tries to use her glasses with the binoculars. &amp;quot;A very beautiful world,&amp;quot; she says. When she asks what the name of the planet is, Adama tells her it&#039;s Earth. He adds, &amp;quot;Earth is a dream,&amp;quot; believing that their new home, a long-sought destination, deserves the name.&lt;br /&gt;
* Roslin&#039;s breathing becomes labored and shallow. Adama offers to give her a better look at the wildlife. He picks her up and carries her to a nearby Raptor.&lt;br /&gt;
* Lee Adama and Kara Thrace notice and meet Bill Adama there. The Adamas hug, and Bill Adama gives Thrace a final greeting of &amp;quot;[[Nothing but the rain]]&amp;quot; before he hugs and kisses her. Thrace and Lee wave goodbye to a smiling Roslin as the Raptor ascends.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lee realizes that his father isn&#039;t coming back. Kara Thrace tells Lee that she isn&#039;t coming back, either. &amp;quot;I just know that I am done here. I&#039;ve completed my journey...and it feels good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* A flashback scene, back in Thrace&#039;s apartment, where Thrace dares Lee to make love to her on her dining room table. But before they could do anything, the crash of a glass partially awakens Zak, causing the two to realize what they were doing. They shake hands and say goodbye.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Lee,&amp;quot; Kara Thrace says. As Lee tells her of desire to explore and climb mountains, he turns to find that Kara Thrace has vanished, as if she were a ghost. &amp;quot;Goodbye, Kara,&amp;quot; he says. &amp;quot;You won&#039;t be forgotten.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* A flashback scene shows the pigeon that would be trapped in Lee&#039;s apartment after his visit to Kara and Zak. It looks at Lee and flies out of the window and away.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In another flashback from six years prior, Laura Roslin returns to stand by the side of the bed, thanks Sean Allison, but tells him that they will not meet this way again, and asks him to leave. As the man leaves, Roslin returns to her bathroom, lights a cigarette, then makes a phone call. She accepts the opportunity to work on Mayor [[Richard Adar]]&#039;s campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama&#039;s Raptor flies over flamingos. &amp;quot;So much..life,&amp;quot; Laura Roslin says...her final words as she closes her eyes and quietly passes.&lt;br /&gt;
* Moments go by before Bill realizes that she is gone.&lt;br /&gt;
* In tears, Bill removes his wedding ring and places it on Laura&#039;s hand. &amp;quot;Right there...I&#039;m going to build our cabin right there,&amp;quot; he says, pointing to some hills.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Act 10===&lt;br /&gt;
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* A line of people walk into the wilderness, calm and ready to take on the world.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Agathons walk as well, Helo using a makeshift crutch, talking of hunting and other pleasantries. Hera runs about in play, a smile on her face.&lt;br /&gt;
* Gaius Baltar and Caprica-Six look on at Hera playing as the Virtual Six and Baltar reappear. When Caprica-Six questions if the protection of Hera was all that God wanted of them, the Virtual Six replies, &amp;quot;God&#039;s plan is never complete.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Great...&amp;quot; Baltar replies sullenly.&lt;br /&gt;
* Virtual-Baltar counters, &amp;quot;I think it&#039;s safe to say that, from now on, your lives will be less...eventful.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Another flashback to Caprica City. Baltar offers Caprica-Six an opportunity to &amp;quot;peek&amp;quot; into the [[Colonial Defense Mainframe]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Baltar points to some land, he recalls his heritage, and [[Junius Baltar|his father]], and that he knows a bit about farming, to a bit of tears.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bill Adama sits, looking out into the hills and valley. &amp;quot;I laid out the cabin today. It&#039;s going to have an easterly view. You should see the light that we get here. When the sun comes from behind those mountains. It&#039;s almost heavenly. It reminds me of you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* As he speaks, the camera pans up to show Adama, seated near the cairn he built for Laura Roslin&#039;s body.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scene turns to show Hera playing and looking upward. Scenes of wood and desert and sea pass by in a geologic montage to reveal an Earth city--New York City--150,000 years ahead in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As a fly-over of the city appears, a voice-over news report tells of the Tanzanian discovery of the bones of what scientists believe our the remains of the [[w:mitochondrial Eve|mitochondrial Eve]], the common ancestor of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
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* As [[Ron D. Moore|Ron D. Moore reads]] about the scientific discovery, the Virtual Six and Baltar look over his shoulder at a magazine article of the news, and reveal what they know...the bones are that of Hera Agathon, born of a Cylon mother and a human father. No other people on the street appear to notice them.&lt;br /&gt;
* The two talk of the technology and decadence, of whether this Earth will repeat the mistakes of generations past and again become overwhelmed by their creations. The Six thinks not, believing it to be God&#039;s plan.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;You know it doesn&#039;t like that name,&amp;quot; Baltar says. Six only looks back in mild defiance. &amp;quot;Silly. Silly me,&amp;quot; he replies as the two walk away into the metropolis.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The episode concludes with scenes of robots, from toys to advanced automatons growing and evolving, as Jimi Hendrix&#039;s--Earth&#039;s popular version--of &amp;quot;[[The Music|All Along The Watchtower]]&amp;quot; plays.&lt;br /&gt;
* The story ends.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes  ==&lt;br /&gt;
*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in &amp;quot;[[The Eye of Jupiter]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Rapture]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Part I had a runtime of one hour, Part II will run for two hours. An even longer cut of Daybreak will later be released on DVD. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite_news|first=|last=|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/07/talking-battles.html|title=Talking &#039;Battlestar Galactica&#039;s&#039; finale, &#039;Caprica&#039; and the &#039;Battlestar&#039; TV movie with Ron Moore}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*There was no final population count given after the engagement with the Cavil forces. However, there were no reported deaths by accident or violence before the engagement so the population count is most likely the same as it was in &amp;quot;[[Daybreak, Part I]]&amp;quot; before the attack on the Colony. &lt;br /&gt;
*There is a poetic ring to the nature of the conflict of the Second Cylon War. It began with the Cylon attack on Colonies nearly wiping out mankind. It ended with the Colonial attack on the Cylon Colony very likely wiping out the Cylons who didn&#039;t join with the humans. This is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]&#039;s observation of him being President of it being &amp;quot;Poetic justice&amp;quot; and Lee Adama&#039;s &amp;quot;What goes around, comes around&amp;quot; since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician. &lt;br /&gt;
*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate forethought, gave Caprica Six the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it. &lt;br /&gt;
*In another piece of irony the two beings most directly responsible for the attack and distruction of the 12 Colonies Giaus Baltar and Caprica Six. Baltar gave the secretes of the Colonial Defenses to Caprica Six who asked for them and passed them on to her fellow Cylons. They both get to live on a lush green New Earth in love with each other. &lt;br /&gt;
*This episode marks the deaths of [[Boomer]], [[Cavil]], [[Racetrack]], [[Skulls]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Laura Roslin]] and the destruction of Cavil&#039;s forces. The [[Doral]] and [[Simon]] lines are also presumably wiped out, or at least decimated beyond recovery. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and her whereabouts are unknown. In detail:&lt;br /&gt;
**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with [[Helo]] and beating her in the lavatory.&lt;br /&gt;
**Cavil took his own life in Galactica&#039;s CIC when his side lost.&lt;br /&gt;
***It is unknown what happened to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line.  The death of only a single Cavil is depicted.&lt;br /&gt;
**Racetrack and Skulls&#039;s Raptor was stuck by a meteor penetrating their wind screen and striking them. Both Skulls and Racetrack were killed on impact. Racetrack&#039;s dead hand later hit the launch button that launched the nuclear missiles after her Raptor was hit again by a asteroid.&lt;br /&gt;
**Tory was killed by [[Galen Tyrol]] in revenge for Tory killing his wife [[Cally]] after he learned Tory murdered her during the mutual and involuntary exchange of private information of the [[Final Five]]&#039;s minds while downloading Resurrection technology data to the Cavil forces.&lt;br /&gt;
**Anders guided himself in &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and the Fleet into the Sun. &lt;br /&gt;
**Roslin died of cancer as Adama was giving her a bird&#039;s eye view of their new home on second Earth in a Raptor. &lt;br /&gt;
**Since they did not have either Cylon females or Resurrection the Cavil, Simon and Doral models on the various Cylon Baseships presumably died out after their natural life spans were exhausted. &lt;br /&gt;
**Kara was presumably taken by the same force, probably God, that resurrected her. &lt;br /&gt;
*This episode also marks the destruction of the &#039;&#039;Galactica&#039;&#039; and her Fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth and the humans of today are the Colonials&#039; and probably the Rebel Cylons&#039;, descendants 150,000 years later. The [[Leoben]]s, [[Six]]s and [[Sharon]] models from the Baseship joined the Colonials on the new Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
*The tracing of the human blood line all the way back to Hera though [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial DNA|Mitochondrial DNA]] and dubbing her [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] is a real theory.  Mitochondrial Eve was the &#039;&#039;matrilineal most recent common ancestor&#039;&#039;, the most recent person in the female line that all of humanity can be said to be from.  In the series regarding Hera as Mitochondrial Eve this means that all of modern humanity is a combination of what the Colonials considered humanity and Cylon.&lt;br /&gt;
*The fossilized remains are of a young woman, indicating Hera has a relatively short life.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Centurions are granted full independence and subsequently depart in the rebel Baseship to pursue their own destiny.&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]&#039;&#039;, the command ship of the Global Defence Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game &#039;&#039;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun]&#039;&#039; is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.&lt;br /&gt;
*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all.  In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, &amp;quot;Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe&amp;quot;, W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver.  [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*The coordinates that Thrace enters, 1123 / 6536 / 5321 correspond to the notation of the Final Four theme [http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/theme-watchtower.jpg]. The song is in a C# Phrygian scale (enharmonic with A major and F# minor). 1 represents C#, and each higher integer indicates the next note in the scale, such that&lt;br /&gt;
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:1 = C#&lt;br /&gt;
:2 = D&lt;br /&gt;
:3 = E&lt;br /&gt;
:(4 = F#)&lt;br /&gt;
:5 = G#&lt;br /&gt;
:6 = A&lt;br /&gt;
:(7 = B)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The linked graphic omits the first and last note of the theme, but both can be heard in the soundtrack during the jump montage. The second &amp;quot;five&amp;quot; (in the third chunk of four digits) corresponds to the tuplet G#/A/G#, effectively omitting the trill up to high A. Every note has the same duration except for the last two, which are twice the length of the others.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Virtual Beings are angels of God who came to guide Baltar and Caprica Six in their destiny of protecting Hera.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kara Thrace is an angel who was sent back from the dead to guide humanity to a new home the coordinates of which were hidden in The Music.&lt;br /&gt;
*As noted in the &amp;quot;Notes&amp;quot; section it is unlikely that the Cavil, Simon and Doral lines will continue without Cylon females. The [[Three]]s are extinct with the last copy [[D&#039;Anna Biers]] herself dying on the original Earth; Boomer killed in the Colony (and in anycase couldn&#039;t single handedly save the lines even if she were alive); and the last Sixes and Eights staying with the humans on the second Earth. However, there is the possibility of having a few remaining human females from the survivors of the various Colonial worlds including [[Caprica]] being viable, so the lines could in theory continue. However, given the total lack of success in the forced breeding of Cylons and humans and the Cavil, Dorals and Simon&#039;s cynical view of love, an apparent requirement of conception between both Cylon-Cylon and Cylon-human combinations, it is unlikely. &lt;br /&gt;
*On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age.  It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.    &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] appears as himslef holding a &#039;&#039;National Geographic&#039;&#039; magazine in New York City. With this scene the series Battlestar Galactica becomes part of itself as [[Ronald D. Moore]] later creates the series with the knowledge of mitochondrial Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
*The shelters erected by the Colonials on Earth resemble [[Wikipedia:Quonset hut|Quonset huts]], World War II-era temporary structures.&lt;br /&gt;
*The final scenes of this episode, in fast-forwarding through time and attempting to set the entire work as a backstory, make the ending similar to that of the film [[Wikipedia:How the West Was Won (film)|How the West Was Won]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions  ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Since Caprica Six and Gaius Baltar genuinely love each other, do they eventually have a child?&lt;br /&gt;
* What becomes of the Centurions?&lt;br /&gt;
** Do they go after the remnants of Cavil&#039;s forces, or go their separate ways?&lt;br /&gt;
** Will the freed Centurions eventually develop their own humanoid forms, or develop in a completely other direction?&lt;br /&gt;
* Did any copies of Cavil, Doral, or Simon survive?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why does Cavil choose to commit suicide?&lt;br /&gt;
* What becomes of the Baseships seen orbiting the Colony?&lt;br /&gt;
* Are any other human-Cylon hybrids born on Earth, or do the Twos, Sixes, and Eights remain childless?&lt;br /&gt;
* If &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t like to be called [[God (RDM)|God]], what does &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; like to be called?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will modern humans discover remains of Colonial technology such as Raptors?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why do the angels still look like Baltar and Six 150,000 years later?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will humanity repeat the Cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
* Are Thrace and Anders together after Thrace&#039;s disappearance?&lt;br /&gt;
* Can Thrace ever return again?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do Baltar and Caprica-Six marry? Do they go into isolation like Adama and Tyrol, or will they be near a human colony?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do Adama and Tyrol stay isolated for the rest of their lives?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Romo Lampkin chosen as President?  Wouldn&#039;t a member of the Quorum of Captains have been selected?&lt;br /&gt;
* What became of the remaining prisoners aboard the &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;[[Astral Queen]]&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;?  Were they sent out amongst the rest of the human population, or were all of them deposited in some geographical area completely isolated from the other humans?  &lt;br /&gt;
* Were any of the groups provided with medicine, or medical training or at least someone with medical knowledge before spreading out among the world?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is God related to the Lords of Kobol or something completely different?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why did the First Hybrid not want humanity to follow Thrace?&lt;br /&gt;
* How many angels are there? Are the ones that resemble Six and Baltar the same as those that appeared to the Final Five and Thrace, or distinct?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why have angels not been appearing to the Final Five since Old Earth&#039;s destruction, only to Baltar, Six, and Thrace?&lt;br /&gt;
* Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Will analysis of Hera&#039;s remains reveal that she was not a normal human?&lt;br /&gt;
* Does human life evolve on planets other than Kobol and the new Earth?&lt;br /&gt;
* Who did Hera eventually have children with?  A human or a Cylon? &lt;br /&gt;
* Was it coincidence or divine intervention that an asteroid caused Racetrack&#039;s hand to hit the launch button for the nuclear weapons at the exact right moment?&lt;br /&gt;
* Why was Galactica able to jump without retracting its [[flight pods]] when escaping from the Colony? Did this cause Galactica to break its backbone?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Official Statements  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Noteworthy Dialogue  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Silly me.... silly, silly me.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Virtual Baltar in the last line of the series.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Frak!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Cavil&#039;s last word before he blows his brains out.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Can we &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; tell her the plan?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Right.&amp;quot; (Athena kills Boomer)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Starbuck and Athena about Boomer before Athena kills her.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There must be some kind of way out of here.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Starbuck attempting to figure out the jump coordinates.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;All of this has happened before...&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;But does it all have to happen again?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar speculating if the cycle will continue.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guest Stars  ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Number Four]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Sherman Cottle]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kerry Norton]] as [[Layne Ishay]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Number One]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brenden &amp;quot;Hotdog&amp;quot; Costanza]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret &amp;quot;Racetrack&amp;quot; Edmondson]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Colin Lawrence]] as Ensign [[Hamish McCall|Hamish &amp;quot;Skulls&amp;quot; McCall]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lara Gilchrist]] as [[Paulla Schaffer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Marine [[Allan Nowart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leela Savasta]] as [[Tracey Anne]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Darcy Laurie]] as [[Dealino]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] as [[Hera Agathon]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tobias Mehler]] as [[Zak Adama]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Simone Bailly]] as [[Shona]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kevin McNulty]] as [[Frank Porthos]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Richard Jollymore]] as Marine #1&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anthony St. John]] as Marine #2&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dan Payne]] as [[Sean Allison]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Holly Eglinton]] as Stripper&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]] (uncredited)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] as Man at news stand (uncredited)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number Three ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Daybreak, Part II/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* (Un)answered questions) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there&#039;s nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
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They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be &amp;quot;Adama&amp;quot;? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* (Un)answered questions) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II &amp;amp; Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think there is much more to it.  Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of &amp;quot;Eve&amp;quot; influenced the series.  In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series.  With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d still like to know the origin of Kara&#039;s pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from &amp;quot;Razor&amp;quot; and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I&#039;d like to know why the old Hybrid didn&#039;t want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe&#039;s Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn&#039;t needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn&#039;t really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the &amp;quot;Terminator&amp;quot;.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera.  I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera.  They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”.  They see to it that the people create Cylons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar.  the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo &#039;&#039; neanderthalensis &#039;&#039; that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo &#039;&#039; heidelbergensis &#039;&#039; half a million years ago even though that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we explore the Galaxy, will  only find humans and cylons.  ¿What is the point?  ¿Why bother exploring?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Arthur C. Clarke in &#039;&#039; 2001 &#039;&#039; had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form.  In other words, diversity is the rule in &#039;&#039; 2001. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow.  I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for &#039;&#039; Virtual Beings &#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039; Daybreak # 2. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
From Act 10 section of article: &amp;quot;(This is in the year 1987 AD.)&amp;quot;  How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hera&#039;s Mate = Boxey? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From the notes section&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;On the second Earth Hera&#039;s mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera&#039;s offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Boxey could be Hera&#039;s mate. It would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Daybreak, Part II/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* (Un)answered questions) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an &amp;quot;act of God&amp;quot; seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He doesn&#039;t actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You&#039;re right, I&#039;ve edited my post.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gully: /* Title */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s no reason to split the article at this time. We won&#039;t know how things will be aired until they&#039;re actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale&#039;s been extended... that&#039;s it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The proposal wasn&#039;t a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn&#039;t linked to, because it&#039;s an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We&#039;ll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don&#039;t have enough information to be certain; it&#039;s still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Title==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daybreak, Part 2&#039;&#039; (and &#039;&#039;Part 3&#039;&#039;) [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it&#039;s already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ),  the &amp;quot;Kodiak&amp;quot; spacecraft from Command &amp;amp; Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==(Un)answered questions)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Kara Thrace&#039;s father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) The Missiles Racetrack&#039;s Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) Head Six, Head Baltar and Kara Thrace (after she came back from the dead) were all some sort of angels working for a higher power.&lt;br /&gt;
The difference was that Kara could be seen by everyone, she was not the real, human Kara who actually died on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in &amp;quot;Revelations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The Earth of &amp;quot;Revelations&amp;quot; was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Why didn&#039;t Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn&#039;t that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn&#039;t even invented jump drives.)&lt;br /&gt;
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6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn&#039;t the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.&lt;br /&gt;
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7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity?&lt;br /&gt;
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8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2&#039;s, 6&#039;s and 8&#039;s?&lt;br /&gt;
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9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?&lt;br /&gt;
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10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth&#039;s humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 19:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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