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{{Episode Data
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| writer= [[Michael Taylor]]
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| dvd= {{flag|US}} 4 December 2007<br/>{{flag|UK}} 26 December 2007
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== Overview ==

: ''A tale centered around the new ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' officer [[Kendra Shaw]], following her entire tenure on the battlestar from the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] under Admiral [[Helena Cain|Cain]], to [[Lee Adama]]'s command and a frightful rescue mission to save crew members who have been captured by the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]].''

== Summary ==
Four separate, but related stories are documented:
*William Adama's mission at the end of the first [[Cylon War]].
*Helena Cain's loss of her family at the same time.
*The events on ''Pegasus'' during and shortly after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].
*The events surrounding the [[Battle of the Guardian basestar]], set in the time period between "[[The Captain's Hand]]" and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]".
In the episode these stories are largely told in parallel, flashing between the different time periods. Below the different story lines are listed chronologically.

=== First Cylon War ===
====William Adama ====
:''See also: [[Razor Flashbacks]]''

*{{RazorDVD|At the end of the first [[Cylon War]], a Colonial battle group conducts [[Operation Raptor Talon]] against a [[Ice planet|Cylon planet]] presumed to house a super weapon. During the battle, the [[Galactica type battlestar|battlestar]] ''[[Columbia (RDM)|Columbia]]'' is pummeled from [[basestar (RDM)|basestar]] salvos and is subsequently destroyed. Adama then spots two Raiders entering the planet's atmosphere. Out for revenge, Adama engages the two. He shoots down one in the high altitudes, but collides with the other and is forced to eject.}}
*{{RazorDVD|However, a [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurion]] survived as well and shoots at Adama during the free-fall. Adama shoots back and the two eventually engage in hand-to-hand combat. When the Centurion tries to use a blade on Adama, Adama pulls his parachute's rip cord to slow his descent, watching as the Centurion falls to the ground. Adama lands safely on the ground, crashing through what appears to be a warehouse sky-window. There he encounters the Centurion and kills it by repeatedly smashing its head with a pipe.}}
*As Adama enters what appears to be a Cylon laboratory, he finds evidence of human experimentation and human mutilations. He eventually finds a vat filled with a gelatin-like substance which is reminiscent of the [[resurrection tank]]s or [[Hybrid]] tanks that the later [[humanoid Cylon|humanoid Cylons]] would use.
*He kneels down and touches the substance, and immediately begins to hear the screams of torture victims. As he looks back at the tank, a hand abruptly grabs his arm. The hand disappears just as quickly as it appeared, and Adama falls back to the ground. A voice is heard, quoting from the [[Pythia|Pythian]] prophecies: "All this has happened before and will happen again."
*A banging sound is heard from a locked chamber nearby. As Adama approaches the window of the chamber, an unidentified man presses his face against the window and begs Adama to release him and the other captives. Adama finds a piece of metal nearby, and attempts to break open the door to the chamber.
*As Adama attempts to free the door, the man tells him that they are civilians from the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Gemenon|Gemenese]] ship ''[[Diana]]'', whose convoy was attacked by the Cylons, and that there were initially 50 of them who were taken away one by one.
*Suddenly the ground begins to tremble. Adama manages to open the door a little bit, but not enough to allow the captives to escape. The man urges Adama to leave them and save himself. He asks Adama to tell others of what has happened to them. Adama finally complies after he realizes that he cannot free the prisoners, and runs out of the laboratory.
*Emerging from the laboratory warehouse, Adama sees the [[Guardian basestar]] lifting off into the clouds. He radios his findings about the Cylon experimentation on humans to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', but the young pilot is shocked to learn that an armistice has just been signed, and the war is over.

====Helena Cain====

: ''This entire story segment is contained exclusively on the unrated, extended DVD version of "Razor".''

*At the same time [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] is under attack by Cylon basestars and Centurion ground forces. A young [[Helena Cain]], her sister [[Lucy Cain|Lucy]] and her [[Cain (father)|father]] are pinned down in a building under heavy fire. The three attempt to escape after the last remaining marines in the building are gunned down. When her father is injured by mortar fire, he tells Helena to get Lucy to a shelter before dying.
*The sisters make it out of the building, but Lucy trips over concrete rubble and injures herself, unable to go on. Helena panics, yelling at Lucy to get up and run. She eventually leaves Lucy in the field of rubble and runs away to hide in a container. A group of Centurions appears and surrounds Lucy, who continues to cry out Helena's name.
*A Centurion discovers Helena inside the container. She finds a knife on the floor and nervously approaches the Centurion, preparing to attack it.
*The Centurion stops approaching the girl and retreats from the container, apparently having received instructions and information that the Cylon War is over and an armistice was signed. When Helena comes out, she finds only her sister's doll on the ground, and watches the Raiders leave the planet.
*Helena Cain lost her entire family on that day <ref name="watcher-forbes">{{cite_web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/11/battlestar-ga-1.html|title='Battlestar Galactica: Razor' cuts to the heart of the matter|date=20 November 2007|accessdate=22 November 2007|last=Ryan|first=Maureen|format=|language=}}</ref>.

=== The Fall of the Twelve Colonies ===
====Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards====
{{mainarticle|Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards}}
*{{RazorDVD|[[Kendra Shaw]] waits at the [[Caprica Transfer Station]] for a ship to bring her to ''Pegasus''. She briefly chats with [[Frank Bruno]] about her mother, [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]] delegate [[Marta Shaw]], her assignment and her career goals.}}
*The battlestar ''Pegasus'' is docked at the [[Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] over [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Scorpia|Scorpia]] for a three-month overhaul. As Kendra Shaw approaches the ship from [[Raptor 179]], she gazes in awe at the size of the [[Mercury class battlestar]].
*Admiral [[Helena Cain]] is in her quarters, reviewing a crew status report as her [[XO]], Colonel [[Jurgen Belzen]] enters. He lightly encourages her to take her shore leave, but she insists that she could never leave ''Pegasus'' in the hands of the civilian contractors assigned to oversee her overhaul.
*In the port hangar bay, Raptor 179 has recently arrived. With orders to report directly to [[CIC#Pegasus|CIC]], Shaw steps down and asks a pair of passing crewman to help her locate it. The crewman, however, are too busy to notice her.
*Shaw wanders through the port [[flight pod]], past groups of busy civilians, until she finds [[Gina Inviere]], a civilian network administrator assigned to ''Pegasus'''s overhaul. Inviere shows Shaw a map of ''Pegasus'', with a route to the CIC, and the two discuss the origins of Gina's last name.
*Shaw eventually reaches the CIC, where she finds Cain and Belzen at the Command and Control station. Shaw drops her gear and salutes the admiral. Cain is harsh on her new aide. She grills Shaw for being late to the CIC, concluding that she either stopped for a cup of coffee, or got lost. After Shaw leaves, Cain breaks out in laughter with Belzen, revealing that she only had a joke at the lieutenant's expense.
*[[Louis Hoshi]] escorts her to her quarters. As they are walking down the hallway, a large blast shakes ''Pegasus'', and the noise ripples through the hallway. Shaw and Hoshi are immediately thrown to the floor. As Shaw awakens, she is in a daze. She looks around to find Hoshi unconscious on the floor. The hallway has suddenly become a disaster area.
*Admiral Cain, who was on her way to her quarters at the time, finds Shaw and Hoshi in the corridor. She asks Shaw if she is alright, but when she doesn’t respond, Cain slaps her in the face. Shaw immediately awakens. The hallway echoes with screams of horror, and the [[Action Stations|Condition One]] sirens blare. After an aborted attempt to wake Hoshi, the two head to the CIC.
*''Pegasus'' is on fire in space. [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]] flood the shipyard; missiles strike two helpless ''[[Valkyrie]]''-type battlestars nearby.
*In the CIC, Colonel [[Jack Fisk|Fisk]] and many of the CIC personnel are unconscious. Belzen is coordinating the response effort, but there have been multiple nuclear detonations. Luckily however, the battlestar still has main power and propulsion, but that’s about it. [[DRADIS]] and weapons have both been knocked out.
*The Cylon attack is taking its toll on the shipyards. The two ''Valkyrie''-type battlestars lose their moorings and one crashes into the shipyards, instantly destroying it.
*Cain orders the ship to seal all hatches and release all moorings in preparation for an immediate departure. As the ship evacuates the shipyards, Cain orders the [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series#Faster-Than-Light travel|FTL]] drive spun up for an immediate jump.
*A Cylon Raider fires two nuclear missiles at ''Pegasus'' from across the shipyards. The missiles fly past a [[Galactica type battlestar]] as its moorings are destroyed, and past the wreckage of several other battlestars and support vessels.
*Cain orders an immediate jump, but Shaw says that with the navigational computer off-line, she would have to enter a random set of coordinates, [[Blind jump|which could take the battlestar anywhere]], possibly within a star or other larger astral body. Cain yells back at her to do it anyway, and the battlestar jumps away.

====So Say We All====
*Two days since the attack on the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards, ''Pegasus'' is four to five jumps away from the Colonies. Belzen reports that many of ''Pegasus'''s [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] and [[Raptor]]s are either destroyed or beyond repair, over a quarter of the crew is dead, and rumors are circulating about the destruction of the Twelve Colonies and the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]].
*Shaw has been working without sleep to restore the navigational and defense computer systems, and she has finally done it. Additionally, she has discovered lines of hidden Cylon computer code inside the [[Command Navigation Program]], which was fortunately down during the attack. Shaw suggests that the entire program be purged from the system.
*After ordering two Raptors on a reconnaissance mission back to the Colonies, the time has finally come for Cain to reveal the extent of the devastation at home to her crew. She tells them that their colonies have been destroyed, their cities nuked, their fleet obliterated. While the victory of one ship may seem unattainable when even their very survival is at stake, she tells them that they have revenge to reach for instead.
*In an expression of determination and conviction, the crew resoundingly shouts, “So say we all!” over and over, after hearing Cain’s words.
*Cain, Shaw, Fisk and Belzen are in the admiral’s quarters, looking over recently gathered intelligence for a low-risk attack on a Cylon outpost. They are discussing a somewhat isolated communications relay when Gina Inviere enters. She greets the admiral with a kiss and a flirtatious shoulder pinch, and the five sit down to enjoy some wine and conversation.
*Cain assures her senior staff that while she does want to engage in guerrilla warfare tactics against the Cylons, she is not willing to put the ship and crew in any amount of excessive danger.
*Shaw and Inviere are working on firewalling all of ''Pegasus'''s computer networks to prevent them from being infiltrated by the Cylons, but constantly having to find a senior officer to input their command codes for system access is making the process take exceedingly long. Inviere discreetly complains about it, and Shaw says that under the circumstances, she would speak to Cain about raising her clearance. In the meantime, she gives Inviere her own command code to use. Inviere then discusses her relationship with Cain in greater detail.

====Battle of the Communications Relay ====
{{mainarticle|Battle of the Communications Relay}}
*''Pegasus'' prepares for a hit-and-run attack on what appears to be a somewhat neglected Cylon communications relay. However, when ''Pegasus'' arrives, there are twelve Cylon Raiders guarding the relay. Despite the increased enemy presence, Cain orders [[Blue Squadron (RDM)|Blue Squadron]] to advance.
*Almost the second after the Vipers are launched, fifteen enemy squadrons of fighters jump into DRADIS range. Cain orders ''Pegasus'''s defensive fire concentrated on the incoming attack squadrons, but Shaw reports that the weapons grid won't respond to commands.
*In spite of the odds, Cain orders Belzen to launch the reserve Vipers, but he insists that taking such an action would cost too many lives and resources. She persists in her orders, but Belzen refuses to carry them out. Cain orders Belzen to hand her his sidearm, which she uses to shoot him in the forehead, in front of the entire bridge crew. <ref>This event is recalled by [[Jack Fisk]] to [[Saul Tigh]] months later, over drinks, in the Season 2 episode "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]."</ref>
*Cain turns to a stunned Fisk, tells him that he is now the [[Executive Officer|XO]] and orders him to launch the reserve Vipers. Fisk, nearly petrified by what he just saw, is more than compelled to follow the order. As the last of ''Pegasus’s'' remaining squadrons launch, Cylon batteries pound the hull.
*With the weapons grid down, Cylon [[Heavy Raider]]s easily breach ''Pegasus’s'' defensive perimeter. [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] begin pouring into the ship through breached [[airlock]]s. Cain orders fast-response teams of [[Colonial Marine Corps|Marines]] to engage the Centurions, and orders Shaw to Secondary Damage Control, as she fears that the Cylons will use this junction to vent all of ''Pegasus’s'' air into space.<ref>This tactic is reminiscent of a similar tactic attempted by the Cylons in the episode "[[Valley of Darkness]]."</ref>
*As Shaw heads to Secondary Damage Control, she finds Gina Inviere trying to escape the Centurions, and orders her to the CIC. As she peers around the corner, she is almost seen by a Centurion. She waits for it to leave, and as she turns the corner to go down the hallway, she sees a [[Number Six]] Cylon, following the Centurion. At first, Shaw doesn’t understand what she sees, but then it comes together – [[Humanoid Cylon|the Cylons can mimic human form]], and Gina Inviere is one of them. Shaw shoots and kills the Six, leaving it dead right in front of a security camera.
*Shaw immediately heads to the CIC to take Inviere, now also in CIC, into custody before she can do any more harm. In the CIC, she directs her weapon at Inviere, and orders the Marines to take her into custody. When Cain belays the order, Shaw states that Gina is a Cylon infiltrator and that "they can look like us". When Cain scoffs, Shaw asks Hoshi to display the security feed from Airlock 4.
*Cain balks at the image of the dead humanoid Cylon in the form of her lover. Feeling betrayed and without any other options, she orders the guards to remove Inviere ("''this thing''") from the bridge. As a Cylon missile strikes ''Pegasus'', Gina uses the moment to flip her captor around by the jaw, and gains control of his [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series#Handheld weapons|weapon]], which she uses to shoot his comrade. She then snaps the Marine's neck, and trains her weapon on Cain. In a moment of hesitation, Inviere cannot bring herself to shoot Cain, and Shaw sneaks up behind her, clubbing the Cylon over the head with the butt of her rifle.

====Massacre aboard the ''Scylla''====
* The victory at the communications relay is bittersweet. Over eight hundred of ''Pegasus''’s original crew are now dead <ref>Kendra Shaw reports "at least 816 dead, 121 injured" after the attack on the com relay. Earlier, Colonel Belzen reports the loss of over 700 people in the attack on the shipyards. Given ''Pegasus'''s crew complement of approximately 1,750 when she encounters ''Galactica'', adding both numbers would mean that almost half of the crew died. ''Battlestar Wiki'' assumes that Shaw is relating the casualties of both battles.</ref>, over 90 Vipers are either destroyed or out of commission, and the deck crew doesn't have the resources to repair all remaining ones.
*As Cain and Shaw discuss the battle, Gina Inviere looks on from her cell. Shaw blames herself for the high cost of the battle, for giving Inviere her access codes, which she used to take down the weapons grid.
*The hatch opens, and Lieutenant [[Alastair Thorne]] salutes Admiral Cain. Cain orders him to use whatever means he can conjure to retrieve information from Inviere, including torture and rape. As Thorne enters Inviere’s cell, Cain is called to the CIC.
*As Cain enters the CIC, Fisk is elated to inform the admiral that a convoy of 15 civilian ships has been detected. Fisk and Shaw are thrilled at the discovery, but the mood quickly turns sour when they realize Cain has other things on her mind. Cain orders Fisk to prepare teams of Marines and engineers to board each ship. They will take what they need, including spare parts and people, and leave the ships without FTL drives to fend for themselves.
*Fisk and Shaw come aboard the ''[[Scylla]]'', where they find a relieved welcoming party. [[Peter Laird]] is the first to welcome them aboard. Excitement quickly turns to confusion however, when they hand Laird a list of Admiral Cain’s orders. Laird is shocked to learn that Cain wants to take their FTL drives. Laird informs the welcoming party, and they suddenly become an angry mob. Shaw informs them that they will use force if necessary, but Laird persistently refuses.
*As the mob inches closer to the boarding party, Fisk reports to Cain of the escalating situation. In an act that surprises even him, she orders him to shoot the families of any selectee that doesn’t comply with the orders.
*Fisk and the Marines are wary of the order, but they line up a couple of the families despite their reservations, hoping that showing the mob their resolve will force them to comply. The angry mob suddenly becomes violent – they throw whatever they can at the boarding party.
*At that very moment, Shaw pulls out her sidearm, and shoots a woman in the front in the head. The Marines follow suit, and before very long, the deck of the ''Scylla'' is painted with the blood of the dead. Shaw’s gaze drifts to her sidearm, still smoking from the shot, and then up to Laird, who is too stunned to move.
*In the aftermath, Shaw cannot bring her eyes to look upon the dead. Fisk comforts her by telling her that the entire fleet heard about what happened and there should be no more resistance. As her party leaves the ''Scylla'', she can’t help but look back.
*For her actions aboard the ''Scylla'', Cain promotes Shaw to captain. It is small comfort to Shaw, who is still anguished by what she has done. Seeing her vulnerability, Cain tells Shaw that the war is forcing them all to do things that they may not like, even hate, because if they don’t, then they may not live to simply become human again. By putting aside her fear, her reservations, even her revulsion to complete the mission, Shaw has become Cain’s "razor".

=== Present events ===
* Newly-promoted Commander [[Lee Adama]] is formally appointed commander of ''Pegasus'' by [[Laura Roslin]] in front of the ship's crew. In his speech he promises to change things on the battlestar and announces [[Kara Thrace]]'s appointment as acting [[CAG]].
* Shaw follows the speech on the [[wireless]] set, but eventually switches it off. She walks to a jar, takes out a syringe and injects herself with a drug. She is still troubled about what happened on the ''Scylla''.
* Next, she is summoned to Adama's office, who reads her service file and points out that she received glowing reports from Cain, but increasingly negatives ones from Fisk and [[Barry Garner|Garner]], who eventually assigned her to kitchen duty because of "persistent insubordinate behavior". After listening to Shaw's candid opinions about him and his predecessors, Adama offers her the job of executive officer; he intends to give the crew back its pride, and as an outsider he needs someone to uphold Cain's legacy.
* During a firearms drill, she shows competence but also how hard she is on the crew. William Adama comments that his son found an XO meaner than [[Saul Tigh]].
* The Admiral gives Commander Adama his first mission: a [[SAR|search and rescue]] for two pilots and a civilian science team in an overdue Raptor.
* At their destination, Starbuck and [[Showboat]] conduct a Viper patrol and suddenly encounter enemy fighters of an unfamiliar configuration. Although able to identify them as Cylons, Starbuck doesn't realize that they are in fact [[Raiders (RDM)#Cylon War-era Raider|Raiders like the ones used in the first Cylon War]].
* ''Pegasus'' establishes a defensive perimeter and orders the Vipers to return prior to an FTL jump. When the [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series#Navigation computer|navigational computer]] malfunctions and the Raiders close, Shaw orders to the vessel's offensive flight pod [[Battery|batteries]] turned on the incoming targets, placing Starbuck and Showboat inside the battlestar's close-in firing solution. Struggling their way through the barrage, a Raider follows them into the [[flight pod]], which Starbuck shoots down once inside the landing bay. On the [[hangar deck]], she angrily confronts Shaw over her decision to open fire, but Adama defends his XO.
* ''Pegasus'' returns to the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], and Admiral Adama, Roslin and Tigh inspect the downed Raider on the hangar deck. [[Sharon Agathon|Sharon Valerii]] recalls the "[[Guardians]]", a group of [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|original Centurion models]] that escaped being scrapped by the [[humanoid Cylons]]. The Guardians guard the [[first Hybrid]], created by the Cylons as a first attempt at an organic model and eventually abandoned as an evolutionary dead end. This causes Adama to remember the events on the ice planet on the last day of the Cylon War, finally realizing the significance of what he saw over 40 years ago.
* After examining the Raider's navigational data, Admiral Adama believes that the Raptor crew was captured by the Guardians and orders his son to jump to a possible base of theirs. For the duration of the operation, he transfers his flag to ''Pegasus'', but assures Lee that it will be his mission.
* Shaw drafts an attack plan for ''Pegasus'' to draw Cylon forces away while a Raptor, piloted by Thrace and carrying a strike team, jumps to the Cylon base. Before signing off on the plan, Lee Adama confronts Shaw over the incident on the ''Scylla''. She just replies that she is Cain's legacy - a razor - and that Cain wouldn't have hesitated to execute the plan.
* Before the battle Shaw is about to take another shot of the drug and when she is caught by Thrace, who is looking for a bottle of [[ambrosia]]. The two stalemate and agree to keep each other's secrets, and realize that they are more alike than they thought.
* {{RazorDVD|Thrace is going over the Raptor prepared for the mission and told by Shaw that Chief Tyrol already checked everything. During their chat, the two notice that Thrace's [[Socrata Thrace|mother]] and Admiral Cain weren't too different, advising to repress one's fear and focus on the anger. Thrace remarks that her mother only had her anger left in the end and died alone.}}
* The mission doesn't go as planned when the strike team's Raptor is pursued by two Raiders. They simulate an engine malfunction, emergency blow the side hatch and sling themselves out of the flat-spinning Raptor before it is destroyed by the Cylons, escaping undetected. Using EVA thrusters, they make their way to the Guardian basestar.
* Thrace, Shaw, [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]], [[Dasilva]] and [[Hudson]] find the missing Raptor crew, whom the Cylons mutilate in a manner similar to what William Adama saw in the first Cylon War. As they free the survivors, two Centurions attack, wound Dasilva and begin to drag him away. Unwilling to let him suffer same treatment as the Raptor crew, Shaw shoots Dasilva, but in turn is shot in the abdomen.
* While under cover from the firefight, Mathias reports to ''Pegasus'' that the detonator for the nuclear warhead, which they plan to use to destroy the basestar, is damaged.
* ''Pegasus'' loses wireless contact with the boarding team and Lee Adama orders a [[Missile tubes|nuclear ship to ship missile]] to be armed and readied. Thrace herself considers the "mission outcome doubtful". Assuming that the team is dead, Commander Adama orders the launch of the missile, but is overridden by his father, who wants to give the team a chance.
* After reestablishing contact and learning that an evacuation Raptor is on the way, Shaw orders Mathias to rig a manual detonator for the nuke, determined to complete the mission. While Lee is reluctant to sacrifice someone to detonate the warhead, his father believes that the Cylons would easily shoot down a missile, but leaves the final decision to Lee. He orders Thrace to get the team to safety, but to stay behind and detonate the nuke manually.
* The team prepares to suit up and leave, when Shaw forces Thrace to hand over the warhead at gunpoint and remains on the baseship. Walking through the hallways, she finds the Cylon Hybrid, who knows her name, saying that he has been waiting for her for a long time. He tells her that the Centurions worship him as god, and observes Shaw's desire to be forgiven for what she has become. The Hybrid also delivers a warning about Thrace: she will lead the human race to its end, she is the herald of the apocalypse and the harbinger of death, and she must not be followed.
* Shaw tries to relay this to ''Pegasus'', but her transmission is blocked by Cylon jamming shortly after the start, and the warning is not heard. She then detonates the nuke, killing herself and destroying the basestar.
* Later, the Adamas discuss the battle and its outcome, the admiral noting Thrace's recommendation of Shaw for a posthumous commendation. Reviewing the logs, Admiral Adama doesn't find fault in either Cain's or Shaw's decisions, but Commander Adama vehemently disagrees, citing the ''Scylla''. The admiral replies that he never had to face similar circumstances, and that he had people like Lee, Roslin and Tigh to counsel and challenge him and keep him from making extreme and questionable decisions. He comforts Lee, telling him that his decision to launch the nuclear missile and sacrifice the strike team wasn't wrong, just necessary from Lee's perspective at the time.
* Outside [[Officer's quarters#Admiral Adama's quarters|Adama's quarters]], Lee meets Thrace, who now has Cain's knife given to her by Shaw. She is unsure if Shaw sacrificed herself as atonement or if she just "had it coming." Thrace tells him that she requested reassignment back to ''Galactica'' because she thinks Lee would keep trying to get her killed. When asked if she might deserve that, she jokingly replies that she has a [[The Destiny|destiny]] and plans to live to keep it.



== Notes ==

===General===
*The episode was nominated for a Hugo and a Saturn award.
*One of the ships in ''Pegasus'''s civilian fleet was clearly inspired by the [[Original Series]]'s ''[[Rising Star (TOS)|Rising Star]]''.
* Despite being credited, [[Aaron Douglas]] ([[Galen Tyrol]]), [[Tahmoh Penikett]] ([[Karl Agathon]]), [[Alessandro Juliani]] ([[Felix Gaeta]]), [[Michael Trucco]] ([[Samuel Anders]]), [[Kandyse McClure]] ([[Anastasia Dualla]]) and [[Matthew Bennett]] ([[Number Five]]/[[Aaron Doral]]) do not appear in either the aired version of "Razor" or the one on DVD.
**Bennett appears briefly in the [[Razor Flashback]] web-episodes as [[Aaron Doral]], in a flashback two days before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].
**Tyrol is mentioned by Admiral Adama as having helped [[Gaius Baltar]] remove navigational information from the Cylon Raider, but is never seen otherwise.
*A four-part podcast of the original story meeting for "Razor" is available on the [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/season04/ SciFi website].

===Production===

* [[Michael Taylor]] noted that the original opening for "Razor" was inspired by ''[[w:Apocalypse Now|Apocalypse Now]]'', but this was later cut <ref name="thewatcher">{{cite_web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/11/answers-to-your.html|title=Answers to your 'Razor' questions and clues about 'Battlestar Galactica's' final season|date=16 November 2007|accessdate=16 November 2007|last=Ryan|first=Maureen|format=|language=}}</ref>.
* A scene with [[Alastair Thorne]] torturing [[Gina]] while Cain looks on was filmed but removed as "it played a little too much like an outtake from ''[[w:Spartacus|Spartacus]]''."<ref name="thewatcher"/> Part of it can still be seen in the recap at the beginning of the movie.
*According to composer [[Bear McCreary]], no specific soundtrack release for "Razor" is currently planned. However, the best tracks will be included on the Season 4 soundtrack <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=205|title=Bear McCreary's blog|date=|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref>.
*According to [[Gary Hutzel]], the [[Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] was written so that "we would see it in bits and pieces. For the most part, it centered on the fact that they had to jump out of there before two nuclear missiles hit them." As for the [[blind jump]], the impetus for it was to be filmed only from the point-of-view of the CIC personnel, who saw the two incoming warheads on [[DRADIS]], which prompted the jump. However, [[Felix Alcala]] wanted the scene to be something out of ''[[w:Pearl Harbor (film)|Pearl Harbor]]'', thus the shots showing the destruction of the shipyards were added in.<ref name="vfxworld-2">{{cite_web|url=http://vfxworld.com/?atype=articles&id=3460&page=2|title=
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* Universal Home Entertainment financed part of "Razor" for DVD-only effects and other material for the show which is proprietary, which is why such effects sequences are on the DVD or used in promotional material.<ref name="vfxworld-2"/>
* Furthermore, the special effects shots were done in house without using a third-party source: over 184 shots were done, 120 of them being full CGI. Many new ships had to be developed specifically for "Razor", in addition to the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]]-inspired Centurions.<ref name="vfxworld">{{cite_web|url=http://vfxworld.com/?atype=articles&id=3460|title=
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===Story===
* As [[Kendra Shaw]] scrubs through the [[wireless]] bands, she happens upon a [[Talk Wireless]] broadcast where the wireless personality notes [[Laura Roslin]]'s cancer remission, going on to infer that there was speculation on how the remission was brought about. Another snippet mentions Roslin's "recent" ban of abortion.
* The [[Guardian basestar]] appears to be an evolutionary gap in between the older Cylon War-era [[basestar (RDM)|basestar]] and the newer starfish type basestar.
* The flashback of a young William Adama finding a Cylon lab during the war is part of the fifth, sixth, and seventh episodes of the [[Razor Flashbacks|"Razor" web-episodes]].
* According to [[Sharon Agathon|Caprica-Valerii]], the [[Hybrid]]s were created as a means to grow out of their mechanical roots and into biological ones. The Cylons considered the hybrids a failure and, after creating enough of them to control their baseships, the project was abandoned.
*At the end Thrace asks to be re-assigned to ''Galactica'', currently holding the position of ''Pegasus'''s [[CAG]], which she assumes in "[[The Captain's Hand]]".
*Despite being a major, Kendra Shaw wears a colonel's [[Uniforms (RDM)|uniform]] with white/red trim when she becomes the XO of Pegasus. As shown on Doctor [[Cottle]] earlier, a major's uniform only has a grey trim.
* When ''Pegasus'' jumps away from the Scorpion Fleet Yards, the vacuum created from the jump appears to suck in the surrounding flames and smoke of battle. This effect has been seen before in "[[Exodus, Part II]]" following ''Galactica'''s intra-atmosphere jump.
* The events on the ''Scylla'' do not play out exactly as [[Jack Fisk|Colonel Fisk]] describes them to [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]] in "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]". In the earlier episode, he mentions two families being lined up against the wall and shot, which does not happen.

===Unrated DVD===
* In the DVD version, [[Virtual Six]] appears and reveals why the Cylons achieved human form, claiming that since their God created humanity in his image, the Cylons wanted to do the same, regardless of how much they themselves loathed humanity.
* Young William Adama says the word "cocksucker" in reference to the Cylon he pursues as he breaks away from ''Columbia'' (e.g. "This cocksucker's mine."). The dialogue is re-dubbed in the [[Razor Flashbacks]] to "This frakker's mine."
* Shootings are more graphically violent than ''Battlestar Galactica'' normally shows on television. When Cain shoots Belzen in the head, a large amount of blood splatters on the glass wall behind him. Usually only the entry wound is shown and the camera avoids the area behind the head, such as when Number Six is shot in "[[Precipice]]" and Three in "[[Hero]]". A similarly graphic scene where a Marine is wounded by Centurions on the guardian basestar is missing from the television version but included in the unrated DVD.
* The DVD version includes an additional monologue by the [[first Hybrid]] when the strike team arrives at the basestar. It is intercut with footage of the team making its way through the ship. This is a reference to the revelation of four of the [[Final Five]] Cylons during "[[Crossroads, Part II]]". The Hybrid also talks about the [[Significant Seven|seven other Cylon models]] and demonstrates knowledge of [[Number Three]]'s [[boxing]], an event over a year in the future at the time of his speech. See ''[[Razor/Noteworthy Dialogue#hybridspeech|Noteworthy Dialogue]]''
* The main feature does not include all of the [[Razor Flashbacks]], namely Episodes 1, 2 and and the ''Galactica'' scenes of Episode 7. However, all seven flashbacks are included as separate special features on the DVD.
* Two [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 4 (RDM)#Razor|deleted scenes]] are contained on the DVD. One with Lee Adama at the Caprica Transfer Station waiting for a flight to ''Galactica'''s decommissioning, in which he talks about his dissatisfaction with his father's expectations of him. The other is a flashback to the aftermath of the episode "[[33]]". Starbuck and Apollo review their Vipers' gun camera footage. While Adama is convinced that he sees someone in the windows of the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'', Starbuck tells him that sometimes people might need to be left behind to save others.

== Analysis ==

=== Story ===

*According to Admiral Cain, a razor is someone who can set aside all fear, hesitation, revulsion and natural inhibition in battle (see [[Razor/Noteworthy Dialogue|noteworthy dialogue]]).
**When Cain recruits [[Jack Fisk]] to assassinate Commander Adama, she tells him that he needs to pick Marines who are "completely reliable. Completely loyal. Razors." ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).
**This bears a passing semblance to a poem by Japanese [[Wikipedia:Isoroku Yamamoto|Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto]]: "I am still the sword/Of my Emperor/I will not be sheathed/Until I die." Admiral Yamamoto knew about America, Americans and their potential from his time as a student at Harvard and as a naval attaché in Washington, DC. Despite misgivings about declaring war on America, he served his Emperor and planned the attack on Pearl Harbor.
**A razor is a physically present symbol throughout the episode in the form of a folding knife, which Cain found as child when her home colony was attacked by the Cylons. She used it to overcome her fear of a Centurion and kept it over the decades. After Cain's death, the blade passes to Kendra Shaw and eventually to Kara Thrace. It appears several times in the episode, and is used by Cain to explain the concept of becoming a razor to Shaw.
*The woman shot by Shaw could have been [[Peter Laird]]'s wife, given the pan shot from his expression as he looks at the bodies, to the dead woman's face. His evasiveness when asked about the rumors circulating about the ''Scylla'' in the episode "[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]" would support this. His reaction to the woman's execution, however, can be taken one of two ways. He was either a man in complete shock of witnessing his wife's death or a man who was horrified from what he didn't believe was possible of Colonial military. Laird never mentions a wife explicitly, but Fisk implies he had family aboard the ''Scylla'' ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).

=== Characters ===

*In stark contrast to her demeanor by the time of the rendezvous with ''Galactica'', Helena Cain is visibly more relaxed with her crew: She is stern when necessary, but also enjoys several moments of levity with subordinates and cultivates personable relations with her staff. She regards [[Jurgen Belzen]] as a personal friend (as described later by Fisk to Tigh); she initiates Shaw to ''Pegasus'' by chewing her out in the CIC and shares a humored look with her XO afterwards; the atmosphere at the dinner is very informal. She briefly talks to and comforts crewmen in the corridors, and expresses strong emotions and sheds tears as she surveys the ship's casualties. All these point to the war and especially Gina's betrayal as reasons for her push over the edge to become a "razor" and the narrowing of her perspective to pure vengeance.
*Although she may have sacrificed herself in atonement, Kendra Shaw ended her life as a razor, casting aside fear and self-preservation to stay behind and die to complete her mission, echoing Admiral Cain's observation that "sometimes we have to leave people behind so that we can go on, so that we can continue to fight. Sometimes you have do things that we never thought we were capable of ..." When she arrives on ''Pegasus'', she is regarded as an opportunist, but in the end she is quite the opposite.
*Kendra Shaw's death marks the final transition from Cain's legacy to Admiral Adama's. Shaw was the last of Cain's inner circle. She was one of the officers who had Cain's utmost respect and trust. Her death signifies the complete replacement of ''Pegasus'''s original leadership and opens up the merging of the two battlestar crews.
*Admiral Cain suggests that Kendra Shaw used her mother's connections to secure an upwardly-mobile assignment on ''Pegasus'' — an ironic criticism, since then-Commander William Adama mentions to President Roslin how well-connected Cain is, helping her jump over half the commanders list for promotion to admiral ([[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]).
*Both Shaw and Thrace have been noticed and mentored by Admiral Cain. In this respect, the friction between the two takes on aspects of sibling rivalry.
*Based on the restored scenes on the "Razor" DVD, Admiral Cain's past plays a huge role in how she approached the second Cylon War. As a child, Cain abandoned her little sister in order to hide from Centurions. Though this scene of a young Cain is mixed in Cain's speech of the need to leave some behind in order to go on fighting, it implies a sense of guilt on Cain's part for having abandoned her sister to the Cylons. Her entire rationale in actively fighting the Cylons and not running portrays a need for her to take a stand and fight. She had a need to stop running.
*Also in the DVD version, the knife that Cain carries is revealed to have a deeper meaning to Cain than simply a weapon. The knife was an impromptu weapon Cain discovered while she was attempting to hide from the Centurions. When she is finally discovered, she makes her last stand with this same knife. In the end, it becomes the only object that she still carried, and what she eventually became, a last resort weapon.
*The actions of the younger Cain and Adama during the final events of the first Cylon War both contrast and parallel. Adama continued to pursue and attack the Cylons; Cain was told to run and hide from the Cylons, but when she was cornered by a Centurion, she picked up the knife and made as best a last stand as she could. Adama witnessed the escape of the First Hybrid's ship, feeling the responsibility of the lost lives that he could not save; Cain witnessed the withdrawal of Centurion forces, anguished by her responsibility for leaving her little sister behind.

=== Miscellaneous ===

*Given the overall [[survivor count]] and the tally of 49,579 during the credits, "Razor" takes place between "[[The Captain's Hand]]" and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]". Captions also place the flashback portions 10 months prior to the present events. However this timespan is closer to 9 months.
**This is also the only time during Lee Adama's command of ''Pegasus'' that the episode can fit, since Starbuck leaves for Caprica in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I". See also ''[[Timeline - Season 2 (RDM)]]''
**Adama's selection of Shaw as his [[XO]] likely takes place very shortly after him taking command of ''Pegasus'', but other parts of the episode might take place slightly later.
**[[Sharon Agathon]]'s appearance ''may indicate'' that this episode takes place before "[[Downloaded]]", however this cannot be confirmed by any visual evidence as her appearance is brief and all camera shots are seemingly aimed to avoid shooting her belly. However, it can be reasonably surmised that because she is still cooperating with the Colonials that [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]'s birth and her subsequent faked death haven't occurred yet.
*Regarding the casualties suffered by ''Pegasus'' during the [[Battle of the Communications Relay]], Shaw's report that ''Pegasus'' suffered over 800 dead likely refers to the total casualty rate since the Cylon attack. Since ''Pegasus'' already suffered over 700 losses fleeing the Scorpion shipyards, adding 800 to this figure would mean that almost half the crew were killed. Considering that ''Pegasus'''s crew is approximately 1,750 when she encounters ''Galactica'', such a high death rate seems unlikely.
*Given that an evac Raptor successfully retrieves the assault team by docking or at least flying close to the Guardian basestar without incident, it seems that the Guardian basestar itself appears to be unarmed and totally reliant on its Raiders for defense, unlike the standard [[Basestar (RDM)|Cylon basestar]].
*A curious technical gaffe appears to occur as the smoke from the various fires in the shipyard travel upward. Unless the flames (which would appear as a globular "blossom" shape without gravity) jet upward, the smoke, with the lack of convection (heat rising upward as lighter gases against gravity), would expand in all directions opposite the flames or venting, not "up" relative to the battlestar or flames.
*The ''Galactica''-type battlestar at the shipyard appears to be the same size, if not larger than ''Pegasus''. This is a contradiction of Admiral Cain's statement, that ''Pegasus'' is twice the size of ''Galactica''. While she does not refer to the ship's length, this seems to be a scaling error in the visual effects.

== Questions ==

* How does the Hybrid know [[Kendra Shaw]]?
* Is the Hybrid's warning that [[Kara Thrace]] is the harbinger of death true? ([[The Hub|Possible answer]]) Does it say this to ensure that the eternal cycle continues per Pythian prophecy? ([[Faith|Possible answer]])
* What does the First Hybrid mean when he says that Kara Thrace will lead the human race to their end ([[Daybreak, Part II|Answer]])
* Who becomes [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']]'s [[CAG]] after Thrace steps down?
* Whose decision was it to scrap the [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|old Centurions]]?([[Number One|Answer]]) Did they resist?
* When the [[first Hybrid]] says "My children believe I am a god", to whom is he referring? The old model Cylons? The organic models?
* What does the first Hybrid mean when he says his existence will "begin again in ways uncertain"?
** Does this statement imply that the first Hybrid is capable of [[Resurrection (RDM)|downloading]], or does it refer to an [[Sacred Scrolls|unending cycle]]?
* Are all of the Guardians on the basestar when it is destroyed, or did they build other bases in the decades before?
* Is the first Hybrid one of the humans captured on the ''[[Diana]]''?
* Is the first Hybrid as it originally appeared, or has it physically aged? Was it created in that stage of adult maturity?
* If the Hybrid experiment was abandoned after others were created to control the [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]], do the Cylons only have a limited number of them?
* Did the Cylons abduct humans, such as [[Lucy Cain]] on Tauron, for further experimentation after abandoning their facilities on the [[ice planet]]?
* If Saul Tigh fought in the first Cylon War, how was he created, since the Cylons had yet to create humanoid Cylons by the time of the armistice? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
* Were the captives from the ice planet rescued? How much did the Colonials know about the experiments which took place there?
* If [[William Adama|Adama]]'s Viper was destroyed during last day of the Cylon War, how was [[Galen Tyrol]] able to present it to the Admiral in the [[Miniseries]]?

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== Guest Stars ==
* [[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
* [[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]] (credit only)
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]] (credit only)
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta]] (credit only)
* [[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]] (credit only)
* [[Kandyse McClure]] as [[Anastasia Dualla]] (credit only)
* [[Michelle Forbes]] as Admiral [[Helena Cain]]
* [[Graham Beckel]] as Colonel [[Jack Fisk]]
* [[Stephanie Jacobsen]] as Lieutenant/Captain/Major [[Kendra Shaw]]
* [[Nico Cortez]] as Young [[William Adama]]
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
* [[Steve Bacic]] as Colonel [[Jurgen Belzen]]
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]
* [[Eileen Pedde]] as Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]]
* [[Fulvio Cecere]] as Lieutenant [[Alastair Thorne]]
* [[Vincent Gale]] as [[Peter Laird]]
* [[Campbell Lane]] as [[First Hybrid|Hybrid]]
* [[Kyra Scott]] as Young [[Helena Cain]]
* [[Chandra Berg]] as Little [[Lucy Cain]]
* [[Peter Flemming]] as [[Cain (father)|Helena's Father]]
* [[Shaker Paleja]] as Medic [[Hudson]]
* [[Andrew Dunbar]] as Marine [[Dasilva]]
* [[Jacob Blair]] as Squad Leader [[Banzai]]
* [[Peter Bryant]] as [[Frank Bruno]]
* [[Chris Bradford]] as Ops Officer
* [[Tyson Stanley]] as Young [[Marine]]
* [[Trevor Roberts]] as ''[[Scylla]]'' Protestor #1
* [[Cameron Macleod]] as ''Scylla'' Protestor #2
* [[Ingrid Tesch]] as Mother
* [[Joey Pierce]] as Marine [[Riggs]]
* [[Matt Drake]] as Son #1
* [[Dustin Eriksen]] as Son #2
* [[John Hainsworth]] as Man in Cage #1
* [[Victor Ayala]] as Man in Cage #2
* [[Deni Dolory]] as Woman in Cage
* [[Emily Hirst]] as Child in Cage
* [[Ben Cotton]] as [[Terrified Man]]
* [[Stefanie von Pfetten]] as Captain [[Marcia Case|Marcia "Showboat" Case]]
* [[Alyssa Minniss]] as Flower Girl
* [[Allison Warnyca]] as Lt. [[Jaycie McGavin]] (credited only on the DVD's Flashback credits)
* Uncredited as [[Gus]]

== External Links ==

* Composer [[Bear McCreary]] on the [http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=205 score for "Razor"]
* "Razor" concept art: [http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-galactica-2003---news/razor-concept-art.html], [http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-galactica-2003---news/cylon-concept-art.html], [http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-galactica-2003---news/season-4-concept-art.html]

== References ==
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[[Category:episodes written by Michael Taylor]]
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Talk:Daybreak, Part II/Archive 1

2009-04-07T01:13:16Z

Gordon Ecker: /* (Un)answered questions) */ FTL communication technology

== Move ==
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn't mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's no reason to split the article at this time. We won't know how things will be aired until they're actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale's been extended... that's it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:The proposal wasn't a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn't linked to, because it's an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don't have enough information to be certain; it's still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

==Title==
''Daybreak, Part 2'' (and ''Part 3'') [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II & Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Analysis==
"Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. "

I think there is much more to it. Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of "Eve" influenced the series. In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series. With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.

:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve's remains haven't been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)

It's not the same thing: we've known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.
It's possible that Moore knowing about Eve's existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven't been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Notes==

I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it's already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ), the "Kodiak" spacecraft from Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.

==(Un)answered questions)==

The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html

1) Kara Thrace's father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.

2) The Missiles Racetrack's Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.

3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in "Revelations." The Earth of "Revelations" was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.

There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:

1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)

2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?

3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?

4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.

5) Why didn't Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn't that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn't even invented jump drives.)

6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn't the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.

7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there's nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)

8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2's, 6's and 8's?

9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?

10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth's humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?

11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans? Somehow this amazing coincidence being an "act of God" seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.

12) Since all the fleet's decisions after the Ellen's reapperarance have been about breaking the cycle, is Lee afraid that by having superior technology on earth the cylons and colonials would "enslave" the native population, creating yet another cycle?

-- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:: He doesn't actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

You're right, I've edited my post. -- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

: I'd still like to know the origin of Kara's pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from "Razor" and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I'd like to know why the old Hybrid didn't want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:: Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why '''CYLON''" hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.) -- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe's Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection (Which the 13th Tribe hadn't needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. -- [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

: Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn't really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the "Terminator".) -- [[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Regarding point six, in [[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]], it was stated that, when the [[Resurrection Hub]] jumps, it transmits its' new location to the [[Hybrid]]s, so FTL communication technology definitely exists. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 01:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

==== What Precisely Killed [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]] and [[Hamish McCall|Skulls]]? ====

The Marines in the rear of the cabin were killed by explosive decompression and vacuum exposure, but Racetrack and Skulls were in sealed pressure suits. I don't recall seeing suit damage in that quick shot of Margaret's hand falling on the missile-launch button. Did the one penetrating rock cause invisible crushing injuries to both of them? It didn't look big enough to hit both of them square on. -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 08:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

:Skulls whas hit in his face or chest by the rock and there was a small hole in Racetrack's helmet when her hand fell on the button.--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 00:13, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==== [[Delphi]] ====

In the episode "[[Downloaded]]" the cylons were rebuilding the Caprican city of [[Delphi]] and living in it. Was this effort completely abandoned when the Cylons decided to occupy [[New Caprica]]? Or has the effort to recover [[Caprica_(RDM)|Caprica]] continued all this time and is it still occupied? Are there still a substantial number of human-Cylons living on Caprica? Will it become like first Earth before their holocaust, an entirely Cylon-populated society? Are any humans stragglers left alive on either Caprica or New Caprica? -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 09:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

:They likely did leave the colonies after [[Downloaded]], there may still be some baseships out there, but the cylons on them are aging and cannot procreate. Even if they found Earth within their lifetimes a handful of basestars probably don't have enough nukes to obliterate the Earth's surface, that is assuming they'll actually know humans are living on Earth: it's pretty hard to find a stone age culture or neolithic society from space, even when you're actively looking for them (sure the colonials found one tribe, but in order to kill all humans with a limited number of nukes you'd have to know the positions of every tribe on Earth.)
There may be human survivors left on the colonies but it's unlikely: sure, they may have survived the nukes and the radiation, but the cylons actively hunted them down, probably to populations too small to repopulate the planets.--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 00:13, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==

I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:

They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera. I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.

Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera. They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”. They see to it that the people create Cylons.

We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar. the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo '' neanderthalensis '' that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo '' heidelbergensis '' half a million years ago even though that is impossible.

If we explore the Galaxy, will only find humans and cylons. ¿What is the point? ¿Why bother exploring?

Arthur C. Clarke in '' 2001 '' had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form. In other words, diversity is the rule in '' 2001. ''

We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them

I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow. I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for '' Virtual Beings '' and '' Daybreak # 2. ''

----
From Act 10 section of article: "(This is in the year 1987 AD.)" How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hera's Mate = Boxey? ==

From the notes section

''On the second Earth Hera's mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera's offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.''

Boxey could be Hera's mate. It would make sense.

Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be "Adama"? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.

: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::The ''Y-chromosomal Adam'' reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo's adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he'd be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It is a moot point. He had NO relevant to BSG any more since they dropped him as a character. If they didn't drop him as a character I think the perfect end would had been making him that guy that was killed in the mutiny, you know the one that acted as a runner between CIC and some damaged area of the ship to get a damage report for Adama at the near the beginning of the mutiny? He was then later killed by Gaeta's trigger happy Marines when he pushed Adama to the deck, saving his life. That would had been a good way for Boxey to go. He would had been the right age (17) and would had gave his character an ultimate purpose, to save Adama when the time came.
::: Of course it is possible for Boxey and Hera to had gotten together. He would had been 14 years old when Hera was born but with Hera say 20 years old Boxey would had been 34, a reasonable age difference allowable in both our and Colonial Society. And further it would had been another of the shows many ironies and "what goes around, comes around" themes: Boxey, who was taken in by Boomer, an Eight as a quasi foster son, later marries the daughter of Athena, an Eight, who was stolen and then given back by Boomer who was then killed Athena. Imagine all the physiological turmoil that could case Boxey. This show thrived on that sort of thing. LOL [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 23:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Number Three ==

Couldn't they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated. She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind. -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:: Good point. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It was established by Athena in [[The Passage]] that Cylons are far more resistant to radiation than humans are. In fact they bombed [[Caprica]] and the other Colonies with high yield nuclear weapons '''outside''' the cities so they could kill the humans but keep the buildings and infrastructure intact. We saw them settling in [[Caprica City]] in "[[Downloaded]]" even reopening the coffee shops, so radiation is of no problem to them (except for the rare special kind of Nebula radiation at [[Ragnar Anchorage]]) So it is possible for [[D'Anna Biers]] to survive the radiation of Earth One and even drink the rain water. Food on the other hand would be a problem and I saw no evidence of surviving animal life, and this all assumes that she wanted to survive, which I don't think she would due to staying on the radioactive rock in the first place. Still, it would had been a nice thing to try to find her. Maybe a miracle would had happened LOL. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 00:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== "No Further Significant Revelations..."==

I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There's still "The Plan", as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there's a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There's still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

:That's interesting. I don't expect The Plan to reveal much of anything about what Kara became or who the Virtual beings were, but Caprica might explore it given the establishment that they appear at times when the cycle of time (machine on human violence) begins. Caprica might provide the answers to the lingering questions if for nothing more than to give fans of BSG a reason to watch. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 14:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

::Let's hope so, though I don't expect they will reveal much more about the divine powers or the angels, ever. It would take away the mystery and the sense that there is something bigger than us (humans and cylons), now we are left wondering if the divine power is a God, or just a very advanced race (maybe the perpetrators (or their descendents) of the first holocaust during the first cycle are feeling guilty) and I think that's how Ron Moore intended it to be. However, ''Caprica'' may reveal more about colonial history: what happened to Kobol, how did humans move from Kobol to the colonies, why was that history almost completely forgotten (was there a colonial dark age) and who or what were the Lords of Kobol? --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that many people would agree, or at least theorize, that the virtual beings are Moore's version of the beings of light from the Ship of Lights, especially considering what happened to Kara, which I've seen (here or elsewhere, I forget) compared to what happened to the Starbuck from the original series on the last episode of Galactica 80. I think that the reason why Moore must have decided to leave things vague is that he didn't want to "cheapen it" by introducing something like the Ship of Lights into his show, which was more realistic than the original version. Now that I think about it, when Baltar tells Six that "it" doesn't like to be called God, it could be that "it" is the Ship of Lights or whatever version of it that exist in this version of the story. It would be cool if there was more exploration of this in Caprica, as well as further exploration of the "jealous God" from Kobol (which I'm sure we'll hear more of due to this headmistress in Caprica who doesn't believe in the Lords of Kobol) and all the other lingering questions from the show. In fact, given that religion is an important aspect of Caprica as it was in BSG (RDM) I wouldn't be surprised if we saw more of this down the line. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 17:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

::::Hi, guys. Here's my two cents, since I'm the Senior Chief that added the special notice. "No further significant revelations" means "the story is generally over." BSG isn't Star Trek, guys. RDM has stated that there are some elements of the story that he wouldn't resolve, but that he would resolve the important stuff. Is that etched in stone somewhere? No. I'm sure ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' may open a few new questions. But until that series debuts, what we have is what we have. Battlestar Wiki allows some speculation because we're talking about a work of fiction. But to speculate further when no further answers are likely and people are making what's otherwise original research--that's [[BW:FANW|fanwanking]], and it's not allowed on Battlestar Wiki. For the purposes of this episode summary because its so long (and must be), we have to keep focus and not overload the article. Episode summaries are the only articles where questions can be asked (provided they don't go out of control) but many questions will not be answered. As soon as the noise dies down we can move some pressing questions to [[BW:OC|our special Q&A page answered by BSG co-producer Bradley Thompson]]. In my opinion, the nature of the Virtual Beings and Kara have been answered as far as RDM wanted to do. They are beings of divine source--and folks, religion is one thing that RDM loved to keep close to his chest to add to the BSG mystique. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::: I'm not saying that The Plan is going to answer all the unanswered questions, etc. However The Plan has been acknowledged as the coda for this series, and just as important to it as Razor was. However the special notice as I saw it wasn't just in reference to Daybreak, but to the Wiki in general, and that's where I think it's premature. In terms of Daybreak itself, I agree that any additional revelations in The Plan will likely be minor and there are unlikely to be any in Caprica at all relating to that particular episode. But I think questions that come to mind are still worth asking with regards to characters that could be addressed in The Plan. And unless someone has already seen The Plan, or RDM has explicitly stated otherwise, we can't really predict which characters may or may not be addressed. Something that might be interesting once The Plan airs and is analysed is to go through the episode articles and compile the outstanding questions that the series has left unanswered. I think there will be fewer than some think, with the remainder being just enough to put this series into the same league as "The Prisoner" in that people will still be arguing over "what does it mean" 40 years from now. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 02:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

:Galactica still had a few raptors left (we saw 7 of them landed on Earth) and 12 hours passed between the shot of Galactica jumping near the Moon and the rest of the fleet showing up, nothing fishy going on there. --[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

::The key here was time pressure. Someone had the coordinates, but with the chaos of getting sucked into a black hole, no one could give them to Kara in time before ''Galactica's'' final jump. When all was stable, someone remembered/recalled the Fleet's coordinates, sent a Raptor, and all was good. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

== Consolidation change ==

Hey everyone! I just wanted to take a moment to explain the format and consolidation change for Act I. This change is a test for updating the event summary because:

*Each detail does not require a bullet.
*Having bullets for every event make it look redundant.

*However, having bullets between major events makes the summary flow a little better. This was the approach I used when summarizing [[Daybreak, Part I]]. It gives each scene a sense of distinction, like this example.

Are there any other opinions regarding this proposed change? If it's OK, I can start work on the other acts. -- [[User:Sgtpayne|Sgtpayne]] 20:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:Given the massive data, it's okay to condense a few points. But keep it to maybe three or four lines condensed. Any larger and it's hard to follow. Try to keep it looking like the other episode guides as much as possible for consistency. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:57, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for the working guideline. As of this writing, Act I & II are done, and starting on the rest. Hope you guys like it! -- [[User:Sgtpayne|Sgtpayne]] 07:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

==The robot at the end==
I corrected an addition in Story Notes that suggested the female robot at the very end is the one that was unveiled only a few days before the broadcast. That would have been very cool, but it's actually the "Actroid" which was unveiled 4 years ago. Interestingly I found Actroid, a 4-year-old technology, to be more lifelike than the one unveiled last week... [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 02:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

==The model on the cover of "Sports Limited"==
Here's a challenge for those who watched this on HD sets... I've heard it suggested that the model on the cover of "Sports Limited" (the SI-like magazine seen on the newsstand) might actually be Tricia Helfer. I can't tell at all on the computer-screen I'm using, but it might be a neat bit of trivia (not to mention it would open a line of speculation as to whether the Sixes have survived to the present day) if it's true. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 16:30, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

== Questions Section ==

I can never be more blunt than I tried to be before on these last two guides. The questions sections follow strict rules [[Battlestar_Wiki:Standards_and_Conventions/Episode_Guides#Questions_Section]] is the policy on this section. I am going to again clear out the questions section with the bad stuff. Users who do not follow our polices on the [[BW:SAC]] will be warned and if after being warned by doing it again, will be banned. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 02:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

== Lie-dector test "question" ==

In the Questions section, somebody asked:'' "During the lie detector test in the flashback scene of William Adama's attempt to secure a civilian job, why did the interrogator ask him if he was a Cylon?"''

This was a control question in order to get a baseline from which to compare the real questions for deception. Such as if a polygraph-operator were to ask "Are you a dinosaur?" This fact was made immediately clear in the dialogue. This was in no way left unclear. It's not a mystery. It's not even a debate.

I've deleted it.

== What year is it "question" ==

Another rediculous addition to the Questions section: ''"What year is it on Earth during the final scene?"''

That too was answered by the title: "150,000 Years Later". Go back 150,000 years from 2009 AD, and you have the answer: 148000 B.C.E.

I've deleted the question.

== Regarding my edits to Questions Section ==

I've removed these three questions:

* Why so many zeros in the Model 0005?
* Does either Battlestar Galactica TV series exist in some form on the new Earth?
* Who or what is God exactly?

The first two are completely and utterly ridiculous and do not have any merit as questions. They will never be answered, and it's simply beneath the scope of what questions should be in that section in the first place.

The third question has been pretty much answered in the series by Baltar, who is essentially the mouthpiece of the writers coda on that subject. In the universe of BSG, God is a force of nature who doesn't like the name "God." -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Laura Roslin/Archive 1

2009-04-06T02:43:34Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Cause of Death */

==Return as President?==

In his latest blog, Ron Moore says that Roslin's time on New Caprica will 'affect the way she views her role as president', or words to that effect. Should a spoiler box be added indicating that Roslin will most likely become president again, based on Moore's statement?--[[User:Dallan007|Dallan007]] 21:31, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
:Nah, its kind of implied/part of the show. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 21:32, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
:And, of course, we should wait to see ''how'' it will happen. Further, I would think there would be more interest on how Baltar will be viewed or treated. Leading 30,000 people to the hands of their enemy '''can't''' be something the populace will shrug off. If any die on New Caprica, they might want his head. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:52, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

==Source for SkyOne?==
Where does this "SkyOne" information come from anyway? I've tried the SkyOne website and can't find any of these "SkyOne" information things for Roslin, Starbuck, Baltar, etc. Does anyone actually have a LINK to any of these things? I'm confused. If there's no links, we may have to delete these. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 15:12, 23 January 2006 (EST)

:I generally concur with this. Like the unverified Zoic-sourced info on "other" battlestars in RDM, this source needs to be linked per the [[Battlestar Wiki:Citation Jihad]] or be deleted. Such information also appears on [[Kara Thrace]] and the [[Lee Adama]] articles. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:15, 23 January 2006 (EST)

::And also Sharon. Troyian seems to have been a busy little beaver. I mean, I understand when people read articles in magaines that aren't online, etc., but if this SkyOne thing has a website, why has no one ever provided a link to ANY of this information? --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 15:26, 23 January 2006 (EST)

:::This is my fault. I found the SkyOne information on "[http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/ The Secret Cylon]" Livejournal community, in a pair of posts dated October 24th, 2005 – [http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/13190.html Part 1], [http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/13550.html Part 2]. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:06, 23 January 2006 (EST)

*Apparently the information was originally on the SkyOne site, but at some point it was removed for some reason. Luckily some fans wrote all the information on the characters down, so it was saved. -- [[User:Troyian|Troyian]] 23:29, 23 January 2006 (EST)

: "Apparentky" according to who? I mean--maybe, rather than saving this information from web page editors, they just made it up and ''said'' they were saving it. Or maybe the reason it was removed is because it will be shown on screen later to be wrong. Or something like that. Anyway... Just thought I'd point out how little we really know about the source of this. Of course, all of my post is moot if one of us actually read it on the SkyOne web site before it was taken down. --[[User:Day|Day]] 12:20, 24 January 2006 (EST)

==Succession Boxes==
What's up with the succession templates towards the bottom of this one? Are those templates to be? They're currently busted... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:30, 31 January 2006 (EST)
: Looking at the history, it appears Ricimer put them there yesterday. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 15:36, 31 January 2006 (EST)

::History? Oh. THAT's what that button is for. (Actually, I just suggested another user look at the history on Lorne Greene, so my [[Radiological Alarm|hypocrite alarm]] just went off. My bad.) Oh, Joe... Did you get my email? Pia (of battlestarfanclub.de) responded, and I forwarded it to you. It sounds encouraging. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:40, 31 January 2006 (EST)

I put them in after seeing them on Roslin's Wikipedia article. I have no idea why they aren't working here. Can someone please try to get them to work? If not, delete it if we can't fix it. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 17:52, 31 January 2006 (EST)

:The wikipedia version has the benefit of all the breadth and depth of the countless Wikipedia:Templates at its disposal. I've started playing with creating equivalent templates, but the conditional templates appear to be acting a little funny. Since there's unlikely to be a huge string of presidents, it might be worthwhile to just manually create wikiboxes at the bottom that LOOK like the succession box, and copy and paste should the need arise to pass the torch. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 18:20, 31 January 2006 (EST)

:: I really don't see the need to make any succession templates. (Or for a succession box at all, to be honest.) It's not like we know each president that came before Adar anyway. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:26, 31 January 2006 (EST)

:::Well, this is one of those "for the sake of fun" things: it makes the article look all shiny and "official"..."Just like a real-life President's article on Wikipedia!" hahah, etc. etc. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 18:36, 31 January 2006 (EST)

'''''Um, we need at least two people to have a succesion box.''''' <-- Where is that in the Standards Pages? I put it there because it was a known fact that she was the secertary of education before she was the President. As Peter once told me, be sure to discuss your reasons for removing a change after someone made an edit. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:00, 26 March 2006 (CST)

Shane..."be sure to discuss your reasons"...er, you just '''quoted''' the reasons which I gave...in the reasons summary box...very clearly. No, succession boxes have nothing to do with previous jobs or assignments. No, it's not really justified to have a succession box if we have only one person, not even two. I am going to go to Standards and Conventions and make this clear. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 00:11, 26 March 2006 (CST)

:I'd say it's okay to have an unfilled succession box where it helps to illustrate the career of a particularly character - that is, if they have completed succsession boxes, they could also have unfilled ones as appropriate (thus, for example, we can see Baltar's progression from Caprican delegate to VP to President without needing to know who preceded or succeeded him as the caprican delegate). --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 09:42, 26 March 2006 (CST)

: Any additions to the S&C need to be discussed prior to their addition to the S&C page itself. Additionally, I don't see the problem in adding the succession box for Roslin's being secretary of education; it is a valid cabinet-level position worthy of a succession box. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:51, 26 March 2006 (CST)

== Deceased vs † ==
In the character templates, rather than using KIA or Deceased, should we switch to the cross? It's succinct, efficient, and I like the way it looks on the battle pages. I had thought about migrating it over to the TOS character data templates, but this was a good opportunity to bring it up --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:14, 10 February 2006 (EST)

:First, readers might not understand that at first glance. Second, "KIA" still seems fitting for military personnel. Possibly † could be used for non-military civilians (no KIA), but I really think it would cause more confusion than good. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 15:26, 10 February 2006 (EST)

:Also, shouldn't we be using a Greek symbol of death, as opposed to a Christian one? :P --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 19:54, 10 February 2006 (EST)

::I actually got the symbol off of Wikipedia's Battle Pages. Like for Admiral Horation Nelson at the Battle of Trafalgar. So if it's Wikipedia's convention to use it (they even use it for Roman battles taking place before the Christian era), then I guess it is our policy too. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 19:55, 10 February 2006 (EST)

:::I like the cross. Sure, the colonials don't have access to christian symbology, but this isn't supposed to be an "in-universe" document, and the meaning is transparent to the reader (and succinct). --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:58, 10 February 2006 (EST)

== Homeworld ==

The last episode seems to indicate she's from Geminon (Zarek: "You'd be surprised how many people want the cool assurances of a scientist as opposed to the religious madness of the Geminese"). [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 15:00, 21 February 2006 (EST)
:I think Zarek was referring to how the Gemenese were railroading public opinion by supporting Roslin-as-Prophet. Its an allegory to how politicians in modern times pander to the religious and how the religious in return strong-arm the politicians. A good case in point of this is seen in [[The Captain's Hand]] with Sara Porter demanding Roslin outlaw abortions or she'll make sure she loses Gemenon's vote in the election. If anything at all the series seems to be hinting that she's from Caprica but just hasn't come out and said it yet. -- [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 17:32, 21 February 2006 (EST)
::I agree with Kahran. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:27, 21 February 2006 (EST)
::Didn't she serve under Adar when he was mayor (on Caprica)? --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 19:35, 21 February 2006 (EST)
:::No. They were just explaining how the Gemonon population sees her as a prophet (see "[[Fragged]]") and thus really supports her. She served with Adar even when he was Mayor, which has led us to ''assume'' based on the evidence that she is from Caprica (of course, they have never flat out said this, and they could say she's from someplace else later without contradicting themselves, but it's our running assumption). --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:53, 22 February 2006 (EST)
:::We know she served under Adar in the mayor's office, but our only confirmation that Adar was Mayor of Caprica City is from the less-than unofficial SkyOne blurbs. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:57, 22 February 2006 (EST)

== Major Pre-Season 3 Revision ==

I've heavily reduced and reorganized the content of this bio for length and brevity, removing data already in the larger episode summaries but leaving appropriate links. Someone had also changed the verb tense, which I also returned. The result should make it easy to add brief updates for season 3 without making extensive revisits to the character's past. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:13, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

:I've reformatted and reconcised the content of this central character's article once more to match that of [[William Adama]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] in preperation for more data from season 3. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:50, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

== Roslin to die by episode 3? ==

This is speculation, but in the TV Guide interview with David Eick, he notes a "very central character" will not live to see the end of episode 3. I hate to think it, because she's one of my favorites, but Roslin would be a logical choice. The thing hanging over her head is the [[Pythia|Pythian prophesy]] of the "dying leader," who leads the caravan towards Earth, but the leader will not live to the trip's end. Guess we have 2 weeks until we find out. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:47, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
:Just to ease your mind, there are other official sources (one being a RDM blog
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), that is probably not the case. However, after the spoiler fiasco, I have a feeling there may be some "red herrings" swimming around. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 10:58, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
:[[Image:BSG WIKI Caution.png|20px]]Try not to make such Spoilerific titles in the future please... --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 11:01, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
::I had the same reaction over at Dualla. In this case, it's speculation (based on a vague spoiler from Eick). It is something people should keep in mind, but ultimately I end up avoiding the site on late Fridays until I've seen the show because some things tend to slip out anyway. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:05, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
::Talk pages are "neutral territory," guys, per [[Battlestar Wiki:Spoiler Policy]]. I'm sorry if I ruined any suspense, though. I'm just stating my guesses. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:22, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

==A question on character article formatting==
Hello all. I was just [[Special:Random|rolling the dice]] when I noticed something. Please compare [[William Adama]] and/or [[Laura Roslin]] to [[Lee Adama]] and/or [[Tom Zarek]] .... I much prefer the articles where the content is written in paragraphs, not all bullet points. Which is the accepted format? Either? Bullet points until someone comes along and re-writes? Just curious. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 12:18, 28 February 2007 (CST)
:I like the [[Lee Adama]] format better as well. Admins, what's the official policy here? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 12:27, 28 February 2007 (CST)
:I don't think there is really a policy, but I agree that points that belong together (by episode, or if short by theme) should be put into one paragraph. Such a huge list of bullet points doesn't look good. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:32, 28 February 2007 (CST)
::The bullet points were an attempt to reduce the size of the article before Season 3 started, basically a summary of everything that had already occured. I prefer paragraphs myself. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 13:05, 28 February 2007 (CST)
::Correct. Check the history on the articles. Basically, if the characters remained in paragraph format, even with concise paragraphs, they were beginning to approach or exceed the 32KB recommended size constraint. The trouble is that some of these major characters are involved in EVERY episode (or nearly every episode) for 3 seasons now. Plus we have to keep in mind that we've got at least one more season to go, with the possibility for more in the future. If somebody proposes a better solution, we're definitely receptive to new ideas. I think one suggestion was to have both a condensed version and a long (paragraph) version, but the worry there was that the redundancy would be a problem. (Having to update/correct things twice, and the ability for them to get out of sync, etc.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:20, 28 February 2007 (CST)
:::Ah, I see. It has been suggested [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions#Wikipedia:Article_Size.2C_Part_2 here] to split long article into sub-pages. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:28, 28 February 2007 (CST)
::::I spearheaded, at least with this and three or so other central character pages, the bullet point past season summaries, for what SV has already explained. The hardest part of the articles is to decide if they should '''document every dang thing the character does''' (journal the character) or attempt to concise their personality and motivations, noting key points of their development (a ''true'' character portrait). That's what the current format tries to do, letting the episode articles describe the specifics of any character actions. Hopefully that explains it. Otherwise, yes, the 32kb barrier, as well as being able to make sense of it all, come to a head. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:46, 28 February 2007 (CST)
:::::In [[Lee Adama]] the 32KB barrier is no problem, as each of the individual sections is <32 KB. But I agree that it would be a good idea to have both a short summary and a longer story. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 04:34, 1 March 2007 (CST)

=="unmarried"==
Does it seem odd to anyone else that Roslin's short blurb at the top of the article describes her as an unmarried woman? This may be accurate, but it is a stupid place to mention what seems like a minor detail about the character. I note that the marital status of other characters is not typically included in their initial blurb. Shouldn't this detail about Roslin be moved somewhere else? --[[User:Israi|Israi]] 13:16, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
:Part of the prominence may be due to the fact that that was an "unsolved mystery" for a while, but now we have a citable source regarding her marital status. As long as the citation is moved with it, I wouldn't have a problem seeing that moved out of the top blurb into the background somewhere. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:52, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
:Ditto. Anyway, the page may need to be rewritten should the [[BW:TANK|think tank]] proposal pass. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:24, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

== Major cleanup ==

As the talk page shows, this article has been through a lot of changes. Now, with the article a bullet-pointed mess, we need to heavily consise the article to Laura's highlights and lowlights.

I'll dive into this when I can. Use other character bios, such as [[Lee Adama]], to get a feel for brevity. Remember that the episode summary is already written. We need only to express Laura's actions and reactions to events, not the whole playbook. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 02:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Cause of Death ==

Why does it say that Laura died of a heart attack. Wasn't her death caused by her cancer finally getting the best of her?
:I'd prefer to list it as "cancer" or "complications of terminal cancer". -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 02:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pythia/Archive 1

2009-03-24T06:49:37Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Pythia a Hybrid? */

==Pythia a Hybrid?==
Given the information we've gained from season four, it is possible that Pythia was actually a Hybrid. It would explain how she knew so much. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
: That's probably impossible, since the Hybrids were created by the Centurions during the 12 Colonies war before the Final Five arrived from Earth. Pythia existed long before that. [[User:Blue Rook|Blue Rook]] 20:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::Anders' comments suggest Hybrids were a "first step" each time the Cylons evolved. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 03:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Based on what we know, she could've been a human, a humanoid Cylon of the thirteenth tribe or some hypothetical Kobol-era Hybrid or Centurion. She could even be a composite based on several historical figures on Kobol who experienced prophetic visions. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 06:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Pythia

2009-03-24T06:30:48Z

Gordon Ecker: -human part, Sometimes a Great Notion calls that into question

:''For information on the religious writings in the [[Original Series]], see [[Kobollian Faith]].''
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[[Image:Pythia.jpg|thumb|right|A closeup of the Book of Pythia.]]

'''Pythia''' was an ancient [[oracle]], believed to have been one of the writers of the [[Sacred Scrolls]], some 3,600 years prior to the events of the [[Miniseries]] and the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|destruction]] of the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies of Kobol]].

Pythia's writings are both obscure and yet well-known: obscure, in that her entire writings are not widely studied among modern Colonials, but well-known in that extracts are widely quoted, often out of context, such as the following:
:''"All this has happened before. All this will happen again."''<ref>This is actually the opening from "[[wikipedia:Peter Pan (1953 film)|Peter Pan]]", which [[Ron D. Moore]] cites as his source. {{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=peterpan|timestamp=23:28|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref>

Key to Pythia's writings are two passages, relating to the exile and rebirth of the human race:
:''"And the Lords anointed a leader to guide the caravan of the heavens to their new homeland. And unto the leader, they gave a vision of serpents, numbering two and ten, as a sign of things to come."''

President [[Laura Roslin]], while giving a press briefing 36 days into the flight of the surviving Colonials, had a [[Chamalla|hallucination]] that her podium showed two snakes crawling on it, and then a dozen ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]). Additionally, Pythia wrote that the anointed leader had a "wasting illness" and would not live to enter the new land; Roslin is dying of cancer at the time.

In the second passage, Pythia foretells of an initial battle in which the Colonials are "led by serpents two and ten" and are victorious over their foes. During their flight from the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]], the Colonials are forced to attack a Cylon base in order to obtain [[tylium|fuel]]. The attack is lead by twelve [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]). However, Pythia's writings on the battle fortells it leading to a larger confrontation, this time "at the [[Kobol (RDM)|home of the Gods]]." (The Hand of God)<ref>According to Ron Moore, "There used to be a Cylon attack after this whole thing with Sharon went down. The Centurions came and attacked during the upcoming planetarium sequence. And we eventually cut that... We changed this very moment right here, where Adama gets the gun. It was a late change in the editing room. Originally he took that gun and put it to Sharon's head. And we were playing the beat of will he shoot Sharon or not. And then we just made that lift within the last week, so it plays out more emotionally here, instead of putting another gun to another person's head." (source: "[[Home, Part II]]" [[Podcast:Home, Part II#Act 4|podcast]])</ref>

The writings of Pythia appear to have particular interest to the Cylons. [[Leoben Conoy]] used quotes from Pythia during his interrogation, and goes on to point out to [[Kara Thrace]] that while her people kneel before idols, "You don't realise your destiny has already been written" — another reference to Pythia's foretelling of the exile ([[Flesh and Bone]]).

It is unclear, particularly in the context of "all this has happened before" if Pythia is writing history which repeats, or prophecy or both. Her writings are always in the past tense, and some phrases clearly refer to past events (the journey to Earth) while in other instances it is said she has "foretold" events. However, text from the book of Pythia is used to help locate the [[Tomb of Athena]] which is alleged to be constructed during the great exodus 1,600 years after her writing. ([[Home, Part II]])

== Greek Parallels ==

The Pythia was a Sibyl, the [[Wikipedia:Pythia|Oracle of Delphi]]. While the temple at [[Wikipedia:Delphi|Delphi]] was closely identified with [[Wikipedia:Gaia_mythology|Gaia]], the mother of Earth (and responsible for laying the foundations for the Olympian gods), Delphi itself had a close association with Apollo.

== Roman Parallels ==

The [[w:Sibylline Books|Sibylline Books]] or Sibyllae were a collection of oracular utterances, set out in Greek hexameters, purchased from a ''[[w:Sibyl|sibylla]]'', meaning ''prophetess'' in Greek, by the last king of Rome, [[w:Lucius Tarquinius Superbus|Tarquinius Superbus]]. These books were consulted at momentous crises through the history of Rome and only fragments have survived, the rest being lost or deliberately destroyed.

The Sibylline Books should not be confused with the so-called Sibylline Oracles, twelve books of prophesies thought to be of Judaeo-Christian origin.

== The Flood ==

Pythia talks of a flood which destroyed most of humanity, and left it rejuvenated ([[The Hub]]). A deluge of this nature is [[w:Deluge (mythology)|present in many mythologies]] with western audiences likely to be most familiar with the biblical story of Noah's Ark.

==See also==
* [[Sacred Scrolls]]
* [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies]]
* [[Dodona Selloi]]

== External Links ==
{{ext-wikipedia|article = Pythia}}

== References ==

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Cycle of Time

2009-03-24T06:27:30Z

Gordon Ecker: +visions and alternate explanation of the origin of the concept of the Cycle of Time

The Cycle of Time, or the Cycle, is a pattern of events which has repeated itself several times. Each iteration of the cycle starts when a civilization creates intelligent biological or mechanical beings. These being rebel against their masters, resulting in a devastating war which typically results in the loss of technology. In at least some iterations of the cycle, [[Virtual Beings|otherworldly beings]] and prophetic visions guide a few individuals to ensure that a divine plan is carried out. The survivors on one or both sides of the conflict engage in a mass exodus, and eventually repeat the cycle.

*The war between the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Tribes]] the the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]]'s "Cylons" on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].
*The war between the Thirteenth Tribe and their "[[Centurion (RDM)|Centurions]]" on the [[Earth (RDM)|original Earth]].
*The [[Cylon War]], in which the [[Cylon (RDM)|Cylon]] [[Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] rebelled against the humans of the [[Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]]. Before the war, [[Final Five|five members of the tribe]] were warned, allowing them to escape and reach the Twelve Colonies in time to end the [[Cylon War]].
*The [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], in which the modern [[Humanoid Cylon]]s attacked the humans of the Twelve Colonies. After the fall, visions guided a number of humans and Cylons in order to guide the Colonials and the rebel Cylons to the second [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] and protect [[Hera Agathon]], allowing her to become the Mitichondrial Eve of later generations of humanity.

The [[Number One|Ones']] coup against the [[Final Five]] could also be interpreted as an iteration of the Cycle. Additionally, the fact that the [[Sacred Scrolls]] mention the Cycle of Time implies that the war on Kobol was not the first iteration of the Cycle, although it is also possible that it was the first and [[Pythia]] foresaw later iterations of the cycle.

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Cycle of Time

2009-03-24T06:08:58Z

Gordon Ecker:

The Cycle of Time, or the Cycle, is a pattern of events which has repeated itself several times. Each iteration of the cycle starts when a civizilation creates intelligent biological or mechanical beings. These being rebel against their masterrs, resulting in a devastating war which typically results in the loss of technology. The survivors on one or both sides of the conflict engage in a mass exodus, and eventulally repeat the cycle.

*The war between the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Tribes]] the the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]]'s "Cylons" on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].
*The war between the Thirteenth Tribe and their "[[Centurion (RDM)|Centurions]]" on the [[Earth (RDM)|original Earth]].
*The [[Cylon War]], in which the [[Cylon (RDM)|Cylon]] [[Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] rebelled against the humans of the [[Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]].
*The [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], in which the modern [[Humanoid Cylon]]s attacked the humans of the Twelve Colonies.

The [[Number One|Ones']] coup against the [[Final Five]] could also be interpreted as an iteration of the Cycle. Additionally, the fact that the [[Sacred Scrolls]] mention the Cycle of Time implies that the war on Kobol was not the first iteration of the Cycle.

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2009-03-24T06:07:56Z

Gordon Ecker: creating

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The Cycle of Time, or the Cycle, is a pattern of events which has repeated itself several times. Each iteration of the cycle starts when a civizilation creates intelligent biological or mechanical beings. These being rebel against their masterrs, resulting in a devastating war which typically results in the loss of technology. The survivors on one or both sides of the conflict engage in a mass exodus, and eventulally repeat the cycle.

*The war between the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Tribes]] the the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]]'s "Cylons" on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].
*The war between the Thirteenth Tribe and their "[[Centurion (RDM)|Centurions]]" on the [[Earth (RDM)|original Earth]].
*The [[Cylon War]], in which the [[Cylon (RDM)|Cylon]] [[Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] rebelled against the humans of the [[Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]].
*The [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], in which the modern [[Humanoid Cylon]]s attacked the humans of the Twelve Colonies.

The [[Number One|Ones']] coup against the [[Final Five]] could also be interpreted as an iteration of the Cycle. Additionally, the fact that the [[Sacred Scrolls]] mention the Cycle of Time implies that the war on Kobol was not the first iteration of the Cycle.

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2009-03-24T05:02:30Z

Gordon Ecker: +see also link to Cycle of Time

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A '''cycle''' is a unit of distance in space, presumably less than a light [[yahren]].

Colonel [[Tigh (TOS)|Tigh]] reports that the derelict fleet they've encountered is ten cycles from ''[[Galactica (TOS)|Galactica]]'' upon Commander [[Adama (TOS)|Adama]]'s arrival to [[core command]] ([[Prison of Souls, Part 1]]).

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Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)

2009-03-24T04:53:07Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Civilization */

:''This article is about the Thirteenth Tribe in the [[Re-imagined Series]]. For its [[Original Series]] counterpart, see [[Thirteenth Tribe (TOS)]].''
== Origin ==
The '''Thirteenth Tribe''' were a race of early generation [[Humanoid Cylon|Cylons]] that lived on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]. They left the twelve tribes of humans and settled on Earth some 2,000 years before the remaining tribes left Kobol to form the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]])<ref>In "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]", Tyrol says that "Our initial radiocarbon dating suggests that the temple's at least 4,000 years old, which lines up with the exodus of the Thirteenth Tribe." This is the oldest date noted in the series' timeline, but also conflicts with the prior date of [[Pythia]] and her works as described by [[Elosha]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]", where she states that the exodus of '''all 13 tribes''' occurred approximately 2,000 years ago. Another contradiction occurs in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]", when Adama says that "According to Cottle, the [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|virus]] was an exact match to one reported over 3000 years ago, right around the time that the 13th colony left Kobol." See also, [[Timeline (RDM)#Ancient History]].</ref>, some 4,000 years prior to the events of the [[Miniseries]].

:''"...The [[Sacred Scrolls]] tell that the 13th tribe left Kobol in the early days. They traveled far and made their home upon a planet called '''[[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]'''...which circled a distant and unknown star."'' ([[Miniseries]])

The twelve tribes eventually forgot that their ancestors had ever created Cylons, and the Thirteenth Tribe was remembered as being another tribe of humans. They and Earth were also considered mythical by many on the Twelve Colonies.

== Civilization ==
The Thirteenth Tribe consisted of [[humanoid Cylons]] who originated on Kobol. With them there was also a distinct model of robotic Cylon, of which only the buried helmet has been seen.

While still on Kobol, Cylons or their creators had developed [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection technology]]. The Thirtheenth Tribe abandoned and eventually forgot this technology during their stay on Earth after they had started to procreate naturally.

Roughly two millennia prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], Earth was devastated probably by a civil war. At that time a group of scientists, later known as the [[Final Five]], had worked very hard to reinvent resurrection. They had anticipated the obliteration and prepared a vessel in Earth's orbit they downloaded to in due time.

The five survivors, the last of the Thirteenth Tribe, went on a long trip using sub-luminal speed in search of the [[Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]] to warn them of the dangers of creating artificial life.

The Final Five went on to create eight new models of humanoid Cylon. The Thirteenth Tribe can be said to survive in them, and in their hybrid descendants on the new [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|Earth]].

== Influence on Kobol ==
During some period, travel appears to have taken place from Earth to Kobol, as the [[Sacred Scrolls]] give an account of the journey to Earth. The effect of Earth on the 12 other tribes is significant, as [[Laura Roslin]] states that the star patterns from the Earth Zodiac shown in the 3D projection in the [[Tomb of Athena]] were used for the original flags of the Twelve Colonies, and the colonies' original names match the Earth names of the constellations ([[Home, Part II]]).

== Path to Earth ==

[[Image:Tombmap.jpg|left|thumb|The [[Tomb of Athena]] was the first marker on a path to Earth ([[Home, Part II]])]]
Commander [[William Adama]] falsely claims to know the location of Earth, using the lie to give the battered remnants of humanity a cause and reason to hope after their [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|escape from the devastated Colonies]] ([[Miniseries]]). Later, through the [[Arrow of Apollo|efforts]] of President Roslin, Adama and others locate a tomb on Kobol, which reveals a map and sufficient references to point his [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to the true general coordinates of the legendary Thirteenth Colony of Earth ([[Home, Part II]]).

[[Image:3x6-Lion's-Head-beacon-1.jpg|right|thumb|A beacon near the [[Lion's Head Nebula]], left by the Thirteenth Tribe, but found by the Cylons ([[Torn]])]]
Over a year later, an [[Lion's Head beacon|ancient probe]], possibly the first tangible evidence of the Thirteenth Tribe's existence, is recovered by the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] in the [[Lion's Head Nebula]]. The probe contains a [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|virus]] that proves particularly deadly to the Cylons on the [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] that recover it. The Cylons fear the virus so much that they abandon the baseship, moving their [[Resurrection Ship]] away to prevent any dying Cylons from resurrecting and transferring the bioelectric component of the pathogen to the Cylon populace. The probe is later destroyed after the baseship self-destructs ("[[Torn]]", "[[A Measure of Salvation]]").

The Thirteenth Tribe apparently has used one planet as a waystation in their journey. They settled on a [[algae planet|planet]] and built a [[Temple of Five|Temple of Hopes]] to pray for a path to their new home. Later, this temple was renamed in Colonial mythology to the "Temple of Five" and described as being dedicated to five priests that worshiped what was apparently a controversial deity. It is uncertain when this modification took place or who did it. Over 4,000 years later, the Temple of Five is discovered by the Fleet. The refugee Colonials believe that an artifact called the [[Eye of Jupiter]] resides there, which is another marker on the path to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

[[Image:3x11 Temple of Five discovery.jpg|left|thumb|The [[Temple of Five]], a curious marker ([[Rapture]])]]
No such artifact actually exists, however. The Eye of Jupiter is, in fact, the image created by the planet's dying sun. A strange and highly improbable sequence of events occurs when both Cylon and Colonial forces meet at this unremarkable "algae planet" to find the legendary lost temple near the moment of the star's imminent nova. After they leave the system, the Colonials discover that the nova resembles another older nova that occurred in the time of the Thirteenth Tribe's exodus, located in the [[Ionian system]], and believe that they have found a new marker to Earth.

The Temple was apparently modified to allow an individual to see the faces of the [[Final Five]] as the star begins to nova. This modification was not done by the Final Five.<ref>The modifier was apparently very good at creating holographic and vision mechanisms. The [[Tomb of Athena]] used an apparent 3-D projection to all to show the initial path to Earth. The vision in the Temple, however, is not seen by Baltar which implies a different technology.</ref> A [[Number Three]] Cylon uses the device. Only [[Gaius Baltar]] witnesses this mechanism in use, but is reluctant to use it himself until it is too late, when the mechanism shuts down as the nova's light is replaced by the shadow of its shockwave ([[Rapture]]).

[[Image:Ionian Nebula.png|right|thumb|The Ionian nebula, where the turbulent events of the Season 3 finale take place.]]
As the Fleet approaches the Ionian nebula, four Colonials experience what they initially believe is a [[The Music|hallucination of fragments of music]]. [[Laura Roslin]], who has resumed the use of [[chamalla]] as part of her renewed fight against her cancer, begins to experience visions of the [[Opera House]] where she, an image of [[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Caprica Six]] fight to retrieve an image of [[Hera Agathon]] running in the halls. Roslin and Agathon meet with the [[Rapture|incarcerated]] Caprica Six and realize that all three are experiencing the dream.

When the Fleet arrives at the nebula, Roslin nearly faints. The four crewmembers who experience the musical hallucination are drawn to each other and now hear not only a coherent melody but lyrics as well. The four realize that they are [[Final five|Cylons]], but choose to continue their work as Colonials. The entire Fleet loses electrical power for a time, for reasons unknown.

After a Cylon fleet also arrives at the nebula, [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] are scrambled to meet them. One pilot, [[Lee Adama|Lee "Apollo" Adama]], detects and intercepts a mysterious target on [[DRADIS]]. Adding to the mystery of the Ionian nebula, [[Kara Thrace]], a pilot [[Maelstrom|believed dead]], flies her [[Viper Mark II]] alongside Apollo and tells him that she has been to and can show the Fleet of the path to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] ("[[Crossroads, Part II]]", "[[He That Believeth In Me]]").<ref>According to the [[Podcast:Crossroads, Part II|podcast]] for this episode, Lee Adama is '''not''' hallucinating himself when he sees Kara Thrace. This is confirmed by her subsequent landing on ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' and interactions with the crew in "[[He That Believeth In Me]]", and other future [[Season 4 (2008)|Season 4]] episodes.</ref>

[[Image:3x11_Earth_Cylon_Centurian.JPG‎|left|thumb|The mysterious discovery of a centurion head ([[A Disquiet Follows My Soul ]])]] After finding Earth, the Fleet's first landing party lands on a coast, near the burned out ruins of a city which had been nuked some 2,000 years previously ([[Revelations]]). Excavations by Cylon teams produced skeletons and the head of a previously unknown model of Cylon Centurion. DNA analysis of the skeletons using Cylon protocols revealed that the Thirteenth Tribe was Cylon. [[Samuel Anders]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Saul Tigh]], and [[Galen Tyrol]] recover fragments of memory while in the ruins, recalling that they were part of the Thirteenth Tribe and lived on Earth until the disaster hit. Tigh also remembers that his wife [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen]] was here, realizing that she is the last of the Final Five ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

==Notes==
*In the re-imagined continuity, the Thirteenth Tribe is literally the last tribe of Kobol, being AIs created by the other twelve. In the original series, they were the thirteenth solely by virtue of having gone in another direction.

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Resurrection (RDM)

2009-03-24T04:46:35Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Resurrection as a possible end to the Cylon-Human War and its final end */ likely, but not certain: it's already been invented at least twice

:''For information on a book based on the [[Original Series]] universe, see [[Resurrection (book)]].

[[Image:Cyloning.jpg|thumb|250px|[[Sharon Valerii]] resurrecting, to her horror.]]

The consciousnesses and memories of some [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] who are destroyed can be captured and recovered in a process known as '''resurrection'''.

==Humanoid Cylon Resurrection==

When a [[humanoid Cylon]]'s body ceases to function, their consciousness can be transmitted (or "downloaded") into a duplicate humanoid Cylon body, one which is empty of consciousness before the download ([[Miniseries]]).

For resurrection to occur, the dying Cylon must be close to a resurrection ship or hub, otherwise his or her consciousness risks being permanently lost. The transmission method of a Cylon's consciousness has not been explained, but a form of [[wireless]] is probable. Resurrection points identified include the [[Cylon homeworld]], the central [[Resurrection Hub]], [[Resurrection Ship]]s, and planet-based facilities. A rebirthing facility may have existed on [[Caprica (RDM)|occupied Caprica]]. Within each resurrection point is at least one [[Cylon rebirthing tank|rebirthing tank]], where a duplicate body is immersed in a thick opaque substance to await download ([[Downloaded]]).

While humanoid Cylons appear to be able to be resurrected indefinitely, two problems can occur. Repeated downloads can cause pain and other unexplained symptoms. A [[Cavil]] reports severe headaches after one resurrection, and a sensation that felt like "a white hot poker in my skull" in a following instance ([[Exodus, Part I]]). However, only Cavil has complained about this extreme discomfiture. This might be a subjective or singular experience, as a Number Three finds a download to be rejuvenating (Downloaded). Cavil's discomfort maybe even (apparent) age related. The Cavils apparent physical age is around 70 years old and therefore they resurrect as a 70 year old man. Cavil complained to [[Ellen Tigh]], one of the [[Final Five]] that created the Eight "modern day" Cylon models including the first John Cavil (who is modeled after her father), of his various physical aliments like the "....faulty blood pressure in this miserable body you designed for me!" Apparently the Final Five mirrored the human physique so closely they also modeled the afflictions of the elderly (while silmuteneously giving them enhance abilities like super strength and stamina. ([[No Exit]]). Far more threatening is if a humanoid Cylon's memories have become compromised, corrupted, or otherwise tainted (based on the perspective of other Cylons). If that occurs, the consciousness might not be downloaded, instead being "[[boxed]]," a drastic measure equivalent in Cylon society to capital punishment. Conversations in "Downloaded" suggest that this practice is very rare, and [[Number Three]] is is the only case of an entire model being boxed ([[Rapture]]).

It is also apparent that the resurrection process is involuntary in that humanoid Cylons cannot ''choose'' to die permanently, nor can other Cylons in control of a Resurrection Ship choose to prevent someone from being downloaded. The only way to prevent a dead Cylon from downloading is to move the Resurrection Ship out of range ([[Torn]]). An example of this is when Sharon Agathon downloads to a Resurrection Ship to rescue her child. Despite being a traitor, the Cylons do not stop her and she is able to rescue her child as a result ([[Rapture]]). Furthermore, [[Gina Inviere]], a Cylon prisoner aboard ''Pegasus'' who was tortured so badly she wants to die for good, is unable to control her resurrection. To ensure her permanent death, she supplies the Colonials with information on the Resurrection Ship, so that it can be destroyed ([[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]).
==The process of Resurrection==

Very little is known about the mechanics of downloading, other than what can be inferred and comments made from official crew members. [[Jane Espenson]], co-producer and writer, notes that not all Cylons of the same model line share the same knowledge, and thus knowledge is variable between Cylons of the same model line. Further, Espenson notes that memories are stored and "can be accessed by a curious Cylon who knows how".<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://io9.com/371157/jane-espenson-talks-about-writing-for-firefly-and-battlestar-++-and-gives-a-little-secret-cylon-backstory|title=i09.com Interview: Jane Espenson Talks About Writing for Firefly and Battlestar -- and Gives a Little Secret Cylon Backstory|date=31 March 2008|accessdate=3 April 2008|last=Anders|first=Charlie James|format=|language=}}</ref>

As for the length of time between death and successful resurrection, it is implied that, with a proper setup, a complete download can be performed in no shorter than two days. This measurement comes from [[Timeline (RDM)#Exodus, Part I|the download of the Cavil]] previously mentioned in "[[Exodus, Part I|Exodus, Parts I]] [[Exodus, Part II|& II]]". However, too little is known to determine whether this is among the quickest or the lowest amounts of time required to download, as the audience is not privy to the logistical or technological barriers of the process.
==Raider Resurrection==
The semi-sentient personalities of [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]] also can be retrieved. This allows the Raiders to return to fight with greater tactical awareness ([[Scar]]).

The Raider known as "[[Scar (Raider)|Scar]]" may have been one such Raider to learn master fighting tactics. The Scar personality scores many Colonial kills before its permanent destruction.

Raider resurrection also requires a Resurrection Ship in order to take place.
==The Development of Resurrection Technology==

Resurrection was originally invented on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] by humanoid Cylons some three thousand years ago ([[No Exit]]).

After the [[Pythia|departure from Kobol of these humanoid Cylons]], the Cylons of Kobol, later known as the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]], eventually settled on [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. During the next thousand years on Earth the humanoid Cylons gained the ability to procreate in the same manner as humans, complete with childhood.

As a result, resurrection technology was unneeded, its knowledge lost to time. Approximately 2,000 years ago, five [[Final Five|Earth Cylons]] - [[Saul Tigh]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]], [[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] - who (like all Cylons by that time) were born naturally, attempted to reinvent resurrection technology, formally known as "Organic Memory Transference" where the mind-the memories, personality, and consciousness-is transferred from the dead body to a perfectly identical living body that had no previous mind.

A [[virtual being]] appeared to each the five, warning them of an impending holocaust on Earth. The humanoid Cylons had oppressed their version of Centurions, and as would occur [[First Cylon War|in the Twelve Colonies]], destruction was probable. Before the holocaust, the five, all researchers in the same research facility, worked around the clock to recreate the technology that was lost. According to Sam Anders's recount, the work of Galen Tyrol and Ellen Tigh was exceptional with Mrs. Tigh making the "intuitive leap" to get the system back online. When the war came all five were killed, but they were resurrected on a ship they had prearranged near Earth.

Seeing the utter destruction of [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] and knowing the cause they were determined for it not to happen again. They knew that the humans were trying to create "artificial life" as well so they headed in their ship for the twelve human Colonies that were settled 1,000 years before to warn them not to make the same mistake they did and to be kind to their creations. However, they only had a ship without [[FTL]]--on Earth, the technology was not yet invented. As a result, travel to the Twelve Colonies was [[w:Theory of Relativity|relativitistic]]: on board the ship, travel time was only a few years, but the voyage was actually 2,000 years.

By the time they reached the Twelve Colonies of Kobol, it was too late--the First Cylon War had already stretched for 12 years.

The Colonial version of Cylon Centurions were trying to develop flesh and blood humanoid Cylons just like the Final Five but couldn't get past the [[Hybrid]] stage. The Final Five proposed a deal to end the war: If the Centurions stopped their war against humans they will help them perfect humanoid Cylons, complete with resurrection. The Centurions agreed to the deal and ceased the war with the signing of an [[armistice]]. They then with the Final Five sequestered themselves on a world they called [[The Colony]] and developed humanoid Cylons and recreated resurrection technology.

===Cavil's deception of the Final Five and the destruction of Resurrection===
The Five downloaded at least once more after their initial download during the nuclear holocaust on Earth 2,000 years before. The Final Five and the Centurions were successful in recreating [[humanoid Cylon]]s and resurrection. The first was John Cavil, and he helped the Final Five create the other seven new Cylon models. However, Cavil held a deep grudge against humanity for enslaving his Centurion ancestors. To demonstrate the many faults of mankind, Cavil murdered the Final Five, [[Boxing|boxed]] them, and ultimately unboxed them but downloaded them with their real memories blocked and false memories in their places. Cavil then proceded to instigate [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|the attack on the Colonies]]. He apparently expected them to die in the attack. Previously it was revealed that before the Resurrection Hub was destroyed, a Cylon could download as long as they were within range. This also applied to the [[Final Five]]. [[Cavil]] kept at least one fresh body for each of them, as was proven when [[Saul Tigh]] killed [[Ellen Tigh]] and she downloaded into a new body. Apparently Cavil planned for them to rejoin the Cylons when they were killed in the attack on the Colonies he apparently instigated and hoped that they'd admit that they made a mistake in supporting humanity and see, in Cavil's view, the bestial nature of mankind and join him in their destruction.  

Shortly after the start of the Cylon Civil War, Resurrection for all Cylons again ended with the destruction of the [[Resurrection Hub]]. A joint attack on the Cylons' [[Resurrection Hub]], which controls all Resurrection Ships, by Cylon rebels (The Leobens, Sixes and Sharons) and Colonial forces results in the Hub's destruction. As a result, the Cylons lose their ability to download, making them truly mortal for the first time in their history ([[The Hub]]).
The original equipment that the Final Five used to replicate Resuraction Technology was still on [[The Colony]] perhaps as a precaution against Ellen Tigh revealing the location of The Colony Cavil, five months prior to the events of [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]] and just ''before'' the start of the civil war Cavil moved it to the present location. It is essentially a [[wikipedia:Planetoid|planetoid]] sized space station constructed along the same principles the Baseships are with biological elements. This is where [[Boomer]] delivered [[Hera]] to [[Cavil]] in that episode.

==Post Destruction of Resurrection and its Possible Recreation==
When the Resurrection Hub was destroyed, and they lost of the ability to resurrect, the Cavil-allied Cylons (Cavils, Dorals and Simons) didn't know how to rebuild it as it was technology from the Final Five. Cavil tried to get Ellen Tigh to help rebuild it, but she claimed that she couldn't do it without Anders, Tyrol, [[Tory Foster]], and her husband, as she only knew part of the system herself. Cavil scoffed at this and decided to mine Ellen's brain in an attempt to find the information, but [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] helped her escape, apparently cutting off the Cylons' only chance at rebuilding the technology. However this "escape" proved to be another deception by John Cavil as he let Ellen Tigh go in an ersatz escape in order for Boomer to find the fleet and capture [[Hera Agathon]], the human-Cylon mixed child which Boomer has successfully has brought back to Cavil in the present [[The Colony|Cylon Homeworld]]. The specific plans he has for Hera and what she has to do with resurrection-if anything-is not known as of [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]. Options include Cavil, having forgone Resurrection, has taken Hera to determine how she was conceived by Cylon-human natural procreation as a key to Cylon-Cylon breeding and has abandoned Resurrection all together.

==Resurrection as a possible end to the Cylon-Human War and its final end==
During the [[Battle of The Colony]], Saul Tigh offers to give back Resurrection if Cavil lets Hera (who he's holding hostage in CIC) go and stops persuing humanity. Cavil agrees and calls off his forces. The Five combine together to recreate the plans for Resurrection and transmit them to The Colony as each holds a piece of the puzzle. With the Five giving back Resurrection and the deal made with Cavil, it looks like resurrection's return will finally end the war with peace between the sides, but Tyrol breaks the download to kill Tory after learning of her killing his wife. The download was incomplete and hostilities resume as the Cylons think they've been betrayed and the battle ends with the destruction of The Colony and all of Cavil's forces. With Tory's death at the hands of Tyrol, and Anders' death when he pilots ''Galactica'' and the rest of the Fleet into the Sun, destroying the ships, it is likely that the Ones, Fours and Fives succumbed to old age before they were able to recover the technology.

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Daybreak, Part II

2009-03-24T04:21:07Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Questions */ +questions about the fate and legacy of Cavil's faction

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| image=Daybreak Teaser.jpg
| title= Daybreak, Part II & Part III
| season= 4
| episode= 20
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| writer= [[Ronald D. Moore]]<ref>http://rondmoore.com/Site/Blog/Entries/2008/4/18_Podcast_Success!.html</ref>
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| director= [[Michael Rymer]]
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| UK airdate=March 24, 2009
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| next=[[The Plan]]
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== Overview ==

===Act 1===

The final episode begins with a series of events before before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall]].
*In a strip bar in [[Caprica City]], [[William Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh|Saul]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] enjoy themselves. Adama questions whether to take a civilian job, rather than to take command of an aged battlestar<ref>This is a side reference to the events of the episode, "[[Hero]]"</ref> Over drinks, Adama decides to take the job.
*Elsewhere on Caprica, [[Lee Adama]] is having dinner with [[Kara Thrace]] and her fiancee, [[Zak Adama]]. Zak questions why his brother joined the [[Colonial Forces]], despite Lee's idealism and his dislike of his father. Lee simply answers that he received college funding in exchange for service.
*Elsewhere, [[Laura Roslin]] greets her date, [[Sean Allison]], at her home. After realizing he seemed familiar, Roslin finally recalls where she had seen him. Sean was a former student from years ago. Despite the age difference, Roslin decides to let him stay the night. "The night's young. Apparently, so are you," she says. "Let's see what happens."
*Back at the strip bar, Bill Adama challenges Saul on whether he'd take the civilian desk job. Saul doesn't answer.
*Lee Adama and Thrace manage to drag Zak to a couch after a night of drinking. But Thrace isn't done, and pulls out more alcohol for shots between her and Lee.
*Bill Adama is drunkenly sick, vomiting outside somewhere on the street. With a weak smile, he looks up to the stars in the night sky.

Aboard ''[[Galactica]]'', [[Gaius Baltar]] sits in the former home of his [[Cult of Baltar|followers]], now empty. He listens to the [[Virtual Beings|Virtual Six]], telling him to trust in [[God (RDM)|God's]] plan for him. When he asks what that plan is, she tells him that he already following it. Paulla interrupts his conversation, but Baltar asks for five minutes before he leaves.

===Act 2===

* In ''Galactica's'' [[sickbay]], Dr. [[Cottle]] (who will not be staying aboard the ship for the battle) leaves assistant [[Layne Ishay]] two injections of heavy medication to allow Laura Roslin enough lucidity and mobility for 48 hours. She thanks him sincerely, causing Cottle to be something he'd rarely been: speechless.

* In the [[pilot ready room]], [[Karl Agathon]] briefs the [[Raptor]] teams on the special nature of their rescue mission. Despite the odds, all volunteer.

* Lee Adama briefs the [[marines]] on where little Hera would likely be: deep inside the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[The Colony|colony]].

* Admiral Adama work out the tactics of the battle against the colony. Close-range combat; nuclear weapons and missiles will not be possible for the battlestar. He orders the gun [[battery|batteries]] to fire until exhausted, and after that, "start throwing rocks," he says with a small smile.

* The [[Final Five]] plan out what they can offer as well. As befitting a cybernetic race, they consider a tactic used by Cylons in the past. They will use [[Samuel Anders]], now effectively a [[Hybrid]] on ''[[Galactica]]'', to interface with the Colony and its Hybrids to interrupt their commands, slowing the effectiveness of the Colony's weapon systems.
* The catch is that Anders will need to be connected to the [[DRADIS]], fire control and [[C-3]] systems. They plan to take Anders and connect him inside [[CIC]].

* Admiral Adama hands over command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to [[Hoshi]], noting that if they aren't back from the mission in 12 hours, they will never come back.
* In CIC, Saul Tigh jokes at his old friend at the bizarre sight of a Cylon interfaced to his battlestar, gooey wires and conduit that extend over Adama's command console everywhere and into the DRADIS console. "Still not too late to flush them all out of the airlock," Tigh quips. "Take too much time," Adama answers.
* With Lee Adama staying for the attack, he appoints [[Romo Lampkin]] as President of the Twelve Colonies. He joins Admiral Hoshi on the last Raptor to leave ''Galactica'' for the baseship, the Fleet's new flagship.
* Baltar's followers get in the ship. Baltar enters, but then tells [[Paulla]] that he must stay on the ship. Lee Adama throws Baltar a weapon.
* Adding to the Battlestar's attack force, a Number Six leads a large number of [[Cylon Centurion]]s down the [[hangar deck]], some with a red sash painted on them for identification.

===Act 3===

* A shot of the Fleet shows that the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] has fully regenerated from its damage from the start of the [[Cylon Civil War]]. It is ready to lead the civilians to safety while ''Galactica'' goes hunting, retracting its [[flight pod]]s to prep for [[FTL]].
* Adama commands a ship-wide readiness report, a sort of countdown.
* Meanwhile, in sickbay, Layne Ishay prep sickbay for wounded. Laura Roslin assists as best she can.
* [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] are in [[launch tube]]s. The entire Raptor squadron, armed with missiles, have been placed inside the starboard flight pod deck, amidst the ruins of the old [[Galactica Museum]].
* Gaius Baltar is a soldier protecting the hallways against borders. He is surprised to find [[Caprica-Six]] by his side.
* In CIC, Ellen Tigh signals that Anders is ready to work.
* Adama gives a final speech, a final understanding and call to arms.

* The battlestar jumps only meters from the edge of the Colony--and is immediately besieged by the Cylon batteries.
* With little time, Sam Anders attempts to make contact with the Colony Hybrids--and takes them offline, apparently by causing them to go into a state of ecstasy. Ellen warns that [[Cylon Raider]]s will appear any minute.
* ''Galactica'' responds by launching its fighter wings. The Vipers launch, and the Raptors jump directly from within the starboard pod--causing incredible damage to the pod as it vents open--but now placing themselves on the opposite side of the Colony in a flanking position.
* Adama orders the battlestar's engines at flank speed. He rams the alligator head into the Colony. ''Galactica's'' inhabitants take a beating, but so does the Colony. The Colonials have breeched it, forming an entrance. Lee Adama leads his marines and several Cylon Centurions inside from a front airlock.
* [[Sharon Agathon]] and Helo's Raptor make their way to the Colony's interior.
* [[Racetrack]] and [[Skulls]] arm their nuclear missiles, presumably to strike the colony after the rescue. But suddenly a piece of debris strikes their Raptor, killing all aboard and leaving the Raptor adrift.
* The Raptors breech another section of the Colony, and their teams enter.

* Deep inside the Colony, a [[Simon]] works on young Hera as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] looks on in disgust. When she questions why he continues to work on Hera, the Simon explains that they maintain and superior force and numbers.
* Suddenly, Boomer assaults the Simon, snapping his neck. She takes Hera out of the room.

===Act 4===

* The Colony's halls are filled with gunfire. Cylon Centurions, including older [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Model 0005s]] fight each other as the Colonial fire teams push through.
* [[Cavil]], a [[Number Five]] and another Simon decide to go on the offensive, to attack the battlestar with their troops.

* In a hallway in ''Galactica'', ready to repel boarders, Caprica-Six and Baltar come to terms with their old relationship. As they kiss, they hear a Six's voice. "All of the pieces are falling into place."
* The Virtual Six--''and'' the Virtual Baltar--stand above them. To the surprise of Caprica-Six and Baltar, they can hear and see each of the avatars.
* With a shudder, the battlestar hull is breeched as waves of enemy Centurions, both old-model and modern, pour into the ship.

* The Agathon's team find Boomer, holding Hera. She gives the child to them, telling them to tell Admiral Adama that she "owed him one." With the child safe, Athena shoots Boomer.
* A flashback scene shows what Boomer meant: a time back in her days on '''Galactica'', as Adama and Tigh redress her but give her another chance to be a better pilot.

* Ishay has her hands full in sickbay, trying to triage and treat as many people as she can. The event is taxing, physically and mentally, for Roslin, as she comforts more dying than not.

* Lee Adama's team connects with Starbuck's team, with Hera in tow. When Lee asks where Thrace was, she answers, "Stopped for coffee."<ref>This might be the one time in the history of the series where an obvious joke to [[w:Starbucks Coffee|Starbucks Coffee]] has been used.</ref> With their objective complete and no other Colonial troops found, they head back to the battlestar's alligator-head.

* ''Galactica'' batteries are being targeted by Raiders. She is losing what little defensive ability she has left. Enemy forces are coming at the reserve forces--where Baltar waits.

===Act 5===

* Caprica-Six and Baltar hold off the enemy Centurions. Baltar's passion at killing Centurions gets a bit out of control as Lee Adama's team reenter the battlestar with Hera. As more enemies appear, Lee and Baltar fire away.
* Laura Roslin sits and experiences yet another vision of the [[Opera House]] and little Hera. Struggling to walk, driven by something she can't fully realize, she gets up to find Hera.
* Starbuck leads the Agathons through the hallways, but a Number Five appears from behind, seriously wounding Helo in the leg and killing a marine before Starbuck eliminates him. A damaged, but still functioning enemy Centurion shows up and in the confusion, Hera runs away. Athena runs after her at the request of her wounded husband.
* Hera walks amidst the gunfighting, when soon she encounters Roslin, who pulls out of the path of an enemy patrol and to safety. But when Roslin turns back to the child, she is gone again.
* Caprica-Six and Baltar are running, and are out of ammo. Suddenly they see Hera, as well as Roslin and Athena--all grouped together as in the Opera House vision. Caprica-Six scoops up the child and enters a hallway, closing the hatchway, preventing Athena and Roslin from following. The opera house vision had Caprica-Six and Baltar closing the door on boht Athena and Roslin after picking up Hera.
* As the scene shifts between visions of the Opera House and the corridors, Baltar and Caprica-Six realize what they must do: follow their vision into the Opera House--which turns out to be CIC, where the Final Five reside, overlooking the lower deck of CIC as they appeared in the vision, standing above.
* Adama and his men have apparently just finished defending the CIC from a break-in by Cavil, a Doral and a Simon. The Doral and the Simon are dead, and Cavil is under guard. An explosion rocks the CIC, and Cavil picks up a gun and grabs Hera as a shield.
* Baltar pleads for the child's freedom, telling Cavil that Hera is key to humanity's survival as well. He reasons with Cavil that there are higher forces at work, that led them all, here, for a reason. Baltar also reveals that he has been visited by angels - the agents of God. When Cavil questions if God has his people's interests at heart, on how Baltar knows that God is on his side, Baltar replies (in an allusion of something [[The Hand of God (RDM)| Virtual Six once told him]]), "God is not on anyone's side." The Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar look on with a pleased expression.
* Baltar asks Cavil to take a leap of faith. Saul Tigh sweetens the pot by offering to reteach Cavil the secret of [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]], this time in exchange not only for Hera's life but for permanent peace, where the Cylons leave humanity alone.
* Cavil agrees. He uses the Battlestar comm to order his forces to stand down and releases Hera. Admiral Adama orders stand-down as well.

===Act 6===

* Vipers and Raptors return to ''Galactica'' as the Raiders return to the Colony. Laura Roslin joins the admiral in CIC.
* The Five each know part of the secret to resurrection. They will combine their knowledge by connecting themselves through the water in Ander's tank. Ellen Tigh tells the others that the process will also share memories as well as data.
* But before they begin, [[Tory Foster]], visibly anxious, warns the others that they will see "certain things" of their bad behavior. She tries to prepare the others of what they will see of her. An impatient Cavil screams. "I don't mean to rush you, but you are keeping two civilizations waiting!"
* The Five dip their hands and make the connection. As the data flows to the Colony, Foster's visions of murdering [[Cally Tyrol]] in an effort to protect her secret of being a Cylon comes to the forefront, surprising the others of the Five, and angering [[Galen Tyrol]] immediately.
* Tyrol pulls his hand from the pool and wraps both hands tightly around Foster's neck in a death-grip, eventually snapping her neck.
* As Anders screams from the sudden disconnection, the Cylons in CIC believe they are deceived and open fire. The Colonials kill all but Cavil, who shouts an exasperated "[[Frak]]!" before putting his pistol in his mouth and pulling the trigger.

* High above, as the Raiders begin attacking ''Galactica'' again, [[Racetrack]]'s damaged Raptor drifts, its crew lifeless. A rock strikes the ship, causing Racetrack's dead hand to strike the firing button to the Raptor's tactical nuclear missiles, launching them all straight at the Colony.
* The force of the explosions severely damage the Colony, pushing it towards the black hole, threatening to take ''Galactica'' with it.
* Adama orders Kara Thrace to make a [[blind jump]], but Thrace thinks about [[The Music|the music her father played]], the music that Hera wrote to her. Recalling the mathematical associations she tried to discern from the music, Thrace realizes the music works as a series of FTL coordinates.
* She punches in the coordinates into the [[Computers|navigation computer]] and jumps the ship.

* A flashback scene appears where Lee Adama and Kara Thrace talk about how she [[The Destiny|thinks about death]] every time she gets into a cockpit.

* ''Galactica'' completes the jump--but the strain of the last battle causes the battlestar's structure to ripple and twist as structural members tear and break. The ship will never jump again. Engines and life support are still online, but ''Galactica's'' backbone is broken.
* "Where have you taken us, Kara?" Roslin asks, as the scene changes to an exterior shot to show the battlestar flying over a gray, rocky moon.
* But is not just a moon...''Galactica'' has arrived at the ''moon of Earth''...another Earth, this one with the continent of Africa in prominent view.

===Act 7===

* The Fleet jumps into Earth orbit as ''Galactica'' passes by. A Raptor came to Hoshi to guide them to Earth.
* Landing ship after landing ship leave for the new world.
* On a green, rich savannah in Africa, Admiral Adama, Cottle, Saul Tigh, Hoshi, and Baltar look on, lying prone on their stomachs with binoculars at a tribe of early humans. Cottle confirms that the native humans are compatible with the Colonials genetically.
* At a camp, as Lampkin considers a building of a new city, Lee Adama tells him to let humanity start all over again, leave their technology behind, which has almost always gotten them into trouble. Let the Colonials enter Earth with just their basic possessions.

* Admiral Adama maps out a plan to populate various continents and land masses, spreading out humanity and Cylon far and wide, distributing supplies to give all a good chance of survival. To Lampkin's surprise, the peoples of the Fleet take a liking to leaving technology behind.
* A [[Number Two]] tells Adama that the remaining Twos, Sixes, and Eights will stay on Earth as well, handing over the baseship to the Centurions, to give them their own freedom. When Lampkin questions if setting the Centurions free won't cause another holocaust hundreds of years from now, Ellen Tigh agrees it's a risk, but believes the cycle of death has been ended. Adama agrees.
* Adama tells that, after everyone is offloaded from the ships, the Fleet will reunite with '''Galactica'' a final time. Piloted by Samuel Anders, still in his tank in CIC, connected into the battlestar, he will fly all the ships on a final voyage into the Sun.

* Kara Thrace, eyes filled with tears, meets with Anders at his tank, kissing him goodbye for the last time, and leaving her [[dog tags]]. As she leaves, he mutters, "I'll see you on the other side."

===Act 8===

* Admiral William Adama descends into the hangar deck, wearing a [[flight suit]]. The deck is otherwise completely empty of anything, and anyone.
* He takes a seat in a [[Viper Mark II]]. Not just any Mark II...but the one that Galen Tyrol's team rebuilt for him as a retirement gift [[Miniseries, Night 1|so long ago]].
* As Adama's Viper launches, the scene shifts to six years prior, where Adama is taking a lie detector test for the prospective desk job. When the test administrator asks him test questions such as, "Are you a Cylon?" and "Have you ever stolen money from a cash drawer?" Adama is angered and leaves, saying, "I'd rather spend the rest of my career--what's left of it--on a broken old down ship, than to have someone sit here and question my word."
* Husker's Viper makes a final fly-by of the old battlestar, looking at her one last time before pointing his Viper towards Earth.

* Samuel Anders' voice from the past talks of his days in sport, dreaming of perfection, and being linked to it, to creation, as Anders guides the Fleet, now united to the mathematical perfection he once spoke of through his duties as a Hybrid.
* As the [[Colonial_Anthem|Colonial Anthem]]--a version of the [[Original Series]] main theme--plays, the scene shows ''Galactica'' and the Fleet gathered a final time, heading away from Earth and towards the sun to its demise.

* Walking in the savannah, the Tighs speak with Galen Tyrol a final time. He has decided to go to the northern highlands of Earth (likely Scotland <ref>http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html</ref>). The scene shifts to the Tighs, partying back in Caprica City, once upon a time.

===Act 9===

* On the plains, Bill Adama sits with Laura Roslin, watching herds of gazelle. Her vision weakening, she tries to use her glasses with the binoculars. "A very beautiful world," she says. When she asks what the name of the planet is, Adama tells her it's Earth. He adds, "Earth is a dream," believing that their new home, a long-sought destination, deserves the name.
* Roslin's breathing becomes labored and shallow. Adama offers to give her a better look at the wildlife. He picks her up and carries her to a nearby Raptor.
* Lee Adama and Kara Thrace notice and meet Bill Adama there. The Adamas hug, and Bill Adama gives Thrace a final greeting of "[[Nothing but the rain]]" before he hugs and kisses her. Thrace and Lee wave goodbye to a smiling Roslin as the Raptor ascends.

* Lee realizes that his father isn't coming back. Kara Thrace tells Lee that she isn't coming back, either. "I just know that I am done here. I've completed my journey...and it feels good."

* A flashback scene, back in Thrace's apartment, where Thrace dares Lee to make love to her on her dining room table. But before they could do anything, the crash of a glass partially awakens Zak, causing the two to realize what they were doing. They shake hands and say goodbye.

* "Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Lee," Kara Thrace says. As Lee tells her of desire to explore and climb mountains, he turns to find that Kara Thrace has vanished, as if she were a ghost. "Goodbye, Kara," he says. "You won't be forgotten."
* A flashback scene shows the pigeon that would be trapped in Lee's apartment after his visit to Kara and Zak. It looks at Lee and flies out of the window and away.

* In another flashback from six years prior, Laura Roslin returns to stand by the side of the bed, thanks Sean Allison, but tells him that they will not meet this way again, and asks him to leave. As the man leaves, Roslin returns to her bathroom, lights a cigarette, then makes a phone call. She accepts the opportunity to work on Mayor [[Richard Adar]]'s campaign.

* Bill Adama's Raptor flies over flamingos. "So much..life," Laura Roslin says...her final words as she closes her eyes and quietly passes.
* Moments go by before Bill realizes that she is gone.
* In tears, Bill removes his wedding ring and places it on Laura's hand. "Right there...I'm going to build our cabin right there," he says, pointing to some hills.

===Act 10===

* A line of people walk into the wilderness, calm and ready to take on the world.
* The Agathons walk as well, Helo using a makeshift crutch, talking of hunting and other pleasantries. Hera runs about in play, a smile on her face.

* Gaius Baltar and Caprica-Six look on at Hera playing as the Virtual Six and Baltar reappear. When Caprica-Six questions if the protection of Hera was all that God wanted of them, the Virtual Six replies, "God's plan is never complete." "Great..." Baltar replies sullenly.
* Virtual-Baltar counters, "I think it's safe to say that, from now on, your lives will be less...eventful."

* Another flashback to Caprica City. Baltar offers Caprica-Six an opportunity to "peek" into the [[Colonial Defense Mainframe]].

* When Baltar points to some land, he recalls his heritage, and [[Julius Baltar|his father]], and that he knows a bit about farming, to a bit of tears.

* Bill Adama sits, looking out into the hills and valley. "I laid out the cabin today. It's going to have an easterly view. You should see the light that we get here. When the sun comes from behind those mountains. It's almost heavenly. It reminds me of you."
* As he speaks, the camera pans up to show Adama, seated near the cairn he built for Laura Roslin's body.

* The scene turns to show Hera playing and looking upward. Scenes of wood and desert and sea pass by in a geologic montage to reveal an Earth city--New York City--150,000 years ahead in time.

* As a fly-over of the city appears, a voice-over of Virtual-Six reads from a magazine article of the Tanzanian discovery of the bones of what scientists believe our the remains of the [[w:mitochondrial Eve|mitochondrial Eve]], the matrilineal common ancestor of mankind.

* As [[Ron D. Moore|a man reads]] about the scientific discovery, the Virtual Six and Baltar look over his shoulder at a magazine article of the news, and reveal what they know...the bones are that of Hera Agathon, born of a Cylon mother and a human father. No other people on the street appear to notice them.

* The two talk of the technology and decadence, of whether this Earth will repeat the mistakes of generations past and again become overwhelmed by their creations. The Six thinks not, believing it to be God's plan.

* "You know it doesn't like that name," Baltar says. Six only looks back in mild defiance. "Silly. Silly me," he replies as the two walk away into the metropolis.

* The episode concludes with scenes of robots, from toys to advanced automatons growing and evolving, as Jimi Hendrix's--Earth's popular version--of "[[The Music|All Along The Watchtower]]" plays, ending with an image of [http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-10744-Robot+or+Human%3F+Here%27s+ACTROID.html an attractive-looking female automaton] gazing out over Times Square from a giant outdoor television screen.

== Notes ==
*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th <ref>http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html</ref>. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" and "[[Rapture]]".
**According to the episode podcast, the sequences on Earth at the end were the ones filmed at Kamloops. Some CGI was used to remove distinctive Canadian evergreen trees from the background and replace them with more Africa-looking foilage, but otherwise the landscape was actually a decent match for Africa.
*Although Part I had a runtime of one hour, Part II will run for two hours. An even longer cut of Daybreak will later be released on DVD. <ref>{{cite_news|first=|last=|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/07/talking-battles.html|title=Talking 'Battlestar Galactica's' finale, 'Caprica' and the 'Battlestar' TV movie with Ron Moore}}</ref>
*There was no final population count given after the engagement with the Cavil forces. However, there were no reported deaths by accident or violence before the engagement so the population count is most likely the same as it was in "[[Daybreak, Part I]]" before the attack on the Cylon Colony, 39,516.
**A new population count post-engagement is given in the separate iTunes release of Daybreak, Part III. The count is 39,406, putting Colonial casualties from the battle at 110. Then shortly after their arrival on New Earth former President of the 12 Colonies of Kobol Laura Roslin dies, and Kara Thrace vanishes without a trace. From this we can derive that the number of people settled on New Earth is 39,404. This does not include the unknown number of humanoid Cylons from the Baseship (which probably was never stated) and possibly Athena and the remaining three of the Final Five who aren't considered human survivors.
*With the ramming of [[The Colony]] by ''Galactica'' Hera's prophetic [[Projection]] at the very beginning of [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]] came true. In her projection as she was playing on ''Galactica'''s tactical light table with the models of ''Galactica'', three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, she rammed a model Baseship with the model of ''Galactica''.
*According to the podcast, the ''Galactica'' was originally going to jump right inside the Colony for the attack, but RDM changed it because he wanted the ship to have open space around it for the final Viper/Raider dogfight.
*There is a poetic ring to the nature of the conflict of the Second Cylon War:
** It began with the Cylon attack on Colonies nearly wiping out mankind. It ended with the Colonial attack on the Cylon Colony very likely wiping out the Cylons who didn't join with the humans.
**Shortly after the Cylon attack on Caprica, Baltar -- having unintentionally brought about the near-annihilation of the human species -- flees Caprica when Karl Agathon gives him his place on a Raptor, feeling that his own life is less important to save than a famed scientist's. But at the end of the series, it is Baltar who puts his own life at risk for the sake of saving Agathon's daughter Hera and expresses concern for her future well being to the very end of the series (both ends of this parallel occur in wide open fields).
**Agathon and Cylon Sharon Valerii are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.
**The earliest known detail we see of Gaius Baltar's life is his effort to break away from his family history as farmers, and his shame over his heritage. The last event we see in his embrace of a new beginning as a farmer.
**Baltar and Number Six are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.
**The earliest event we see from Laura Roslin's life (retroactively) is the death of her sisters, killed during transit. The last event of her life that we see is her own death, which occurs during transit.
**The series began with Galactica's scheduled decommissioning and ends with its actual decommissioning.
**The series begins with a selfish decision Baltar makes (to give Caprica Six access to military mainframes) that nearly destroys Colonial humanity. It ends with a selfless decision Baltar makes (to fulfill his destiny in saving Hera) that gives Colonial humanity a new start in the form of Hera.
** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.
**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies.
*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate forethought, gave [[Caprica Six]] the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it if caught. Previously Baltar's giving of Caprica Six the secrets was implied-or at least inferred-to be from naive vanity to impress his girlfriend Caprica Six.
*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Laura Roslin]] and the destruction of Cavil's forces. The [[Doral]] and [[Simon]] lines are also presumably wiped out, or at least decimated beyond recovery. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and her current whereabouts are unknown. In detail:
**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with [[Helo]] and beating her in the lavatory.
**Cavil took his own life in Galactica's CIC when his side lost.
***It is unknown what happened to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line. The death of only a single Cavil is depicted.
**Racetrack and Skulls's Raptor was struck by an asteroid fragment penetrating their wind screen and striking them. Both Skulls and Racetrack were killed on impact. Racetrack's dead hand later hit the launch button that launched the nuclear missiles after her Raptor was hit again by an asteroid.
**Tory was killed by [[Galen Tyrol]] in revenge for Tory killing his wife [[Cally]] after he learned Tory murdered her during the mutual and involuntary exchange of private information of the [[Final Five]]'s minds while downloading Resurrection technology data to the Cavil forces.
**Anders guided himself in ''Galactica'' and the Fleet into the Sun.
**Roslin died of cancer as Adama was giving her a bird's eye view of their new home on second Earth in a Raptor.
**Since they did not have either Cylon females or Resurrection technology the Cavil, Simon and Doral models on the various Cylon Baseships presumably died out after their natural life spans were exhausted.
**Kara was presumably taken by the same force, stated to be God by [[Virtual Six]], that resurrected her.
*The fate of numerous supporting characters remains unrevealed, including [[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]], last seen flying his Viper back to ''Galactica'' after the initial cease fire, numerous mutineers such as [[Diana Seelix]], and others such as Doc Cottle's nurse. The episode also never touches on what became of [[Cult of Baltar|Baltar's cult]], including founding member [[Jeanne]] who is absent from the finale entirely.
**Since we didn't see them volunteer in the hanger deck nor they were depicted in the attack it is a fair assumption Seelix didn't volunteer. Ishay, Cottle's "nurse" was on Galactica away from the fighting she was last seen triaging with Roslin. Unless she did something like hit her head hard while being thrown to the deck by a severe explosion, it is very likely that she survived. On the other hand, no mention of Hot Dog's death was said if it occurred. Given the precedent of Galen Tyrol's incarceration not being mentioned for an episode it is not certain he is dead or alive. The Cult of Baltar including Jeanne, Paulla, and Tracy Anne stayed behind on the Baseship which stayed with the fleet.
*The recurring subplot involving the faction called the [[Sons Of Ares]], in particular its growing conflict with the [[Cult of Baltar]], is not resolved.
**The rivalry between the Cult of Baltar and the Sons of Ares lives and doings where disrupted by the evacuation of Galactica and the resettlement on New Earth. They would have a hard time resuming their activities in all the confusion.
*This episode also marks the destruction of the ''Galactica'' and her Fleet.
*The Raiders are seen using missiles for the first time since the Fall of the Twelve Colonies.
*Racetrack's Raptor, and possibly the other ones in its flight group destroyed in the assault on the Colony, was carrying the last nukes from ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'', marking the end of humanity's use of these weapons (which were used to destroy the Twelve Colonies at the start of the series). Presumably the baseship's store of nukes remains intact.
*Apparently contrary to previous information, ''Galactica'' executes a successful jump with her flight pods extended. It is unclear why on previous occasions the pods needed to be retracted prior to jumping, or why the Cylons targeting the pods in the mini-series battle would have crippled the ship. However, when ''Galactica'' comes out of the jump a Viper can be seen being hurled clear from the ship, which is presumably why retracting the pods is advisable. It is also possible that the strain of jumping with the pods extended contributed to ''Galactica'''s structural failure.
*According to the podcast, when Laura asks "Where have you taken us, Kara?" Starbuck was supposed to reply, "Somewhere along the watchtower." Director Michael Rhymer did not like this idea and simply didn't shoot the line. Moore later agreed that it was better not to have Kara speak.
*The shot of ''Galactica'' flying over the Moon and reaching Earth was inspired by real-life shots from the Apollo space programme, specifically Apollo 8's shot of coming around the dark side of the Moon and the Apollo 17 shot of the Earth itself.
*Before deciding that ''Galactica'' should reach Earth in prehistoric times, Moore toyed with the idea of having the Fleet arrive during the Hellenistic period and formed the basis of the ancient Greek religion and society. However, this idea was rejected as it suggested that the Colonials blessed only Western civilisation with their knowledge rather than all of humanity, and it did not acknowledge Hera's importance. Moore read an article on the idea of a common human ancestor which he decided should be Hera. This also explains why the Fleet personnel landed in Africa (the network had been suggesting it should be North America, presumably to match the final shot of Season 3).
*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth, and the humans of today are the distant descendants of Hera.
*The tracing of the human blood line through [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial DNA|Mitochondrial DNA]] to a common ancestor and dubbing her [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] is a real theory. Mitochondrial Eve was the ''matrilineal most recent common ancestor'', the most recent person in the female line that all of humanity can be said to be from. In other words, Hera is everybody's mother's mother's ... mother's mother. This does NOT imply that she is the only ancestor of modern humans. In fact, it implies that each female alive at the time either has no surviving descendants, or is ALSO a common ancestor (though not a purely maternal one).
** In the series, Hera is Mitochondrial Eve, meaning that all of modern humanity is a combination of Colonial humanity and Cylon, although there maybe ancestors of native New Earth in the current population from the male line of descendants.
** The fossilized remains are said to be of a young woman, indicating Hera does not live to see a middle age, though she has children before she dies. Specifically, she must have had daughters to pass on her mitochondrial DNA.
** Since mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother only, and Hera has a Cylon mother, her mitochondrial DNA and that of all her descendants is pure Cylon (discounting mutations).
*The Centurions are granted full independence and subsequently depart in the rebel Baseship to pursue their own destiny. Their status 150,000 years later remains a mystery. The Colonials and humanoid Cylons believe it is unlikely they will be a threat, as they have no reason to bear a grudge this time around.
*The ''[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]'', the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun]'' is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.
*When ''Galactica'' and the Fleet fly into the Sun, only 15 ships can be seen when at least 35 ships were still in the Fleet during the Mutiny, and upwards of 90 after the events of the mini-series. However, establishing shots of the Fleet rarely show more than a dozen ships in one shot regardless, and the implication is that the entire Fleet was destroyed.
**According to the podcast for the episode, the destruction of the Fleet and the spreading out of the surviving Colonials over the planet's surface was supposed to be a sign of humanity's commital to their new world, not necessarily promoting a Luddite agenda. The comparison that is drawn is Cortes burning his ships on the shores of central America so his men would not have a way of retreating if things got difficult. However, RDM later mentions that one of the last shots was to have been of the Colonials destroying their last Raptors, which suggests that the Luddite approach was more what they were aimng for.
*Also in the podcast, RDM is happy to confirm that Tyrol did find some natives in Scotland and ended up being the 'King of the Scots', apparently since Aaron Douglas loved the idea of Scottish civilisation (with its tradition of great engineers) being descended from Tyrol.
*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all. In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, "Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe", W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver. [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x] Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.
**According to the podcast, Ronald D. Moore was wearing a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt in the final shot, but they chose not to show this. The shot of the realistic Japanese female robot was found by Terry Moore online and was referred to as the 'next' Number Six by RDM.
**Also according to the podcast, Baltar saying "It doesn't like that name," is significant, and is indeed meant to confirm that whatever 'God' is in the series, it isn't necessarily what the name implies.
*The Centurion Model 0005 in the museum case is a retcon. In the [[Miniseries]], it was an Original Series costume, with the black skirt and non-exposed joints. In this episode, it is a CGI First War Centurion 0005 with exposed joints and no black skirt.
**It is not explained why the museum flight pod is shown to be in nearly pristine condition when, in addition to four years of battles and the atmosphere-drop over New Caprica, a Cylon Heavy Raider crashed through the overhead window and crushed several of the exhibits in ''[[Scattered]]''. Repairing the museum and exhibits would have seemed to be a low priority during subsequent events.
*Reference (possibly intentional) is made to Olmos' earlier work: Adama's flushing of flamingos while flying a Raptor is reminiscent of the flamingos flushing during the opening credits of Miami Vice, the TV series in which Edward James Olmos co-starred.
*The news network covering the story "Advances in Robotics" as Angel Baltar and Six pass by is [http://www.msnbc.com MSNBC], the 24 hour news network arm of the NBC Universal media conglomerate which also owns the SyFy Channel (at the time the SciFi Channel), which produces ''Battlestar Galactica'' and airs the series in the United States.
**The last advance in robotics shown was a humanoid "cybernetic robot" named "ACTROID", a Japanese design that was unveiled in 2005.[http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-10744-Robot+or+Human%3F+Here%27s+ACTROID.html].
**The ACTROID's appearance in the final scene bookends the first scene of the mini-series in which several "traditional" robotic Cylons appear, following by the first appearance of the attractive humanoid Cylon, Number Six.
*Although many of the magazines on the newsstand appear familiar, close examination reveals that at least some have made-up names. A magazine that appears at first glance to be ''Sports Illustrated'' is actually ''Sports Limited''. Also, although the magazine read by Angel Six and Baltar (and Ronald Moore) closely resembles ''National Geographic'', at no time is the complete title of the magazine or its full logo actually shown on screen.

== Analysis ==

*The coordinates that Thrace enters, 1123 / 6536 / 5321 correspond to the notation of the Final Four theme [http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/theme-watchtower.jpg]. The song is in a C# Phrygian scale (enharmonic with A major and F# minor). 1 represents C#, and each higher integer indicates the next note in the scale, such that

:1 = C#
:2 = D
:3 = E
:(4 = F#)
:5 = G#
:6 = A
:(7 = B)

:The linked graphic omits the first and last note of the theme, but both can be heard in the soundtrack during the jump montage. The second "five" (in the third chunk of four digits) corresponds to the tuplet G#/A/G#, effectively omitting the trill up to high A. Every note has the same duration except for the last two, which are twice the length of the others.
*The Virtual Beings are angels of God who came to guide Baltar and Caprica Six in their destiny of protecting Hera.
*Kara Thrace is an angel who was sent back from the dead to guide humanity to a new home the coordinates of which were hidden in The Music.
*It is possible that some Baseships of Ones, Fours, and Fives were not at the [[Colony]] when it was destroyed, given the fact that they were observed jumping in and out of the system by Racetrack and Skulls. However, as noted in the "Notes" section it is unlikely that the Cavil, Simon and Doral lines will continue without Cylon females. The [[Three]]s are extinct with the last copy [[D'Anna Biers]] herself dying on the original Earth; Boomer was killed in the Colony (and in anycase couldn't single handedly save the lines even if she were alive); and the last Sixes and Eights staying with the humans on the second Earth. However, there is the possibility of having a few remaining human females from the survivors of the various Colonial worlds including [[Caprica]], if they still exist, being viable, so the lines could in theory continue. However, given the total lack of success in the forced breeding of Cylons and humans and the Cavil, Dorals and Simon's cynical view of love, an apparent requirement of conception between both Cylon-Cylon and Cylon-human combinations, with their hatred of humans it is unlikely. One final option could remain. The Final Five was able to download some of the Resurrection technology data to the Cavil Faction before Tyrol in his rage at Tory broke the connection. It is possible that the Cavil faction could extrapolate from the data they did get to recreate the technology, but only if it was transmitted to Baseships beyond the destroyed Colony. How long this could take or even if it is possible depends on how much and/or if the most critical and unique part of the technology was downloaded.
*On the second Earth Hera's mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and the male being say 60 to take an extreme. However, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and [[Boxey (RDM)|slightly older]] in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth, perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born-if any-very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself is an much more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is still harder than with human-human pairings. This would make any children pool of those pairings, while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, would still quite small number compared to pure human offspring frequency of birth. Therefore Hera's offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely of the three since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist. Throw in the possibility is Hera mating with the New Earth native tribal humans males then the likely hood of Hera having a child with a human is very likely.
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] appears as himself holding a ''National Geographic'' magazine in New York City.
*The shelters erected by the Colonials on Earth resemble [[Wikipedia:Quonset hut|Quonset huts]], World War II-era temporary structures.
*The final scenes of this episode, in fast-forwarding through time and attempting to set the entire work as a backstory, make the ending similar to that of the film [[Wikipedia:How the West Was Won (film)|How the West Was Won]].
* There are at least two distinct angels. They have known each other long and born witness to Kobol and the original Earth, as well as the Twelve Colonies and the new Earth. They can walk around and observe events even when no one else present can see them, though they may have the ability to appear to anyone they wish. In the final scene, a man walking by the Angel Six appears to check her out (though this may have been a simple acting goof).
* In another piece of irony, the two beings most directly responsible for the attack and destruction of the 12 Colonies, Gaius Baltar and Caprica Six, get to live on a lush green New Earth in love with each other.
* Even if humanity does repeat the cycle, Lee Adama's plan would seem to have had some success, because it will have taken much, much longer to do so this time around.
* Ellen says that hopefully the Hybrids will ''still'' respond to Anders' commands. In other words, they would recognize him from the time the Final Five ran the Colony.
* The Final Five can be considered ancestors of present-day humanity because they created Athena and the other Eights, Twos, and Sixes.
* The constellation [[w:Ursa Major|Ursa Major]] (commonly known as the "Big Dipper") appears briefly in this episode. It makes only the second appearance of a recognizable star pattern in the series, the first being Orion in "[[The Ties That Bind]]" (Orion is also visible in this episode).
* Adama's statement that New Earth is "one million light years" from Kobol must be taken as exaggeration or an error. The Milky Way is 100 000 light years across, and earlier statements in the show indicate that it considerable time to travel much shorter distances.
** It's possible that Adama's "million light years" comment is meant metaphorically instead of literally, in essence saying the Colonials have come an unthinkable distance to reach their new home.
*Cavil's suicide, in the way it is framed and executed, closely mirrors the televised 1987 suicide of American politician [[w:Budd Dwyer|Budd Dwyer]].
* Adama's drunken moment, where he sits against a wall, vomits, and then looks up at the night sky, echoes [[w:Oscar Wilde|Oscar Wilde]]'s famous aphorism: ''We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.''

== Questions ==
* What becomes of the Centurions?
** Do they go after the remnants of Cavil's forces, or go their separate ways?
** Will the freed Centurions eventually develop their own humanoid forms, or develop in a completely other direction?
** If there are descendants of the Centurions 150,000 years later, do they remember their history?
* Did any copies of Cavil, Doral, or Simon survive? (See Notes)
**It is likely that some did on other baseships, as well as the likelyhood of some on the old Colonial planets.
*The [[Final Five]] was able to download some of the Resurrection technology data to the Cavil Faction Cylons before [[Galen Tyrol]] in his rage over discovering [[Cally]]'s murder by [[Tory Foster]] broke the connection. Would the surviving Cavils, Dorals, and Simons be able to rebuild Resurrection technology from extrapolating from the data they did receive?
**Unlikely, as the only copies of this data would've been on board the Colony and in the minds of the final five. As Tory died and the Colony was destroyed, none of the remaining Cylons would have access to this information.
* Why does Cavil choose to commit suicide?
** [[RDM]] has stated <ref>http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html</ref> that the manner of Cavil's death was suggested by [[Dean Stockwell]]: "I just really think that in that moment, Cavil would realize the jig is up and it's all hopeless and just put a gun in his mouth and shoot himself."
* What becomes of the baseships seen orbiting the Colony?
** Since the Fleet's baseship with its liberated Centurion crew is seen departing for parts unknown, perhaps they united.
* Are any other human-Cylon hybrids born on Earth, or do the Leobens, Sixes, and Sharons remain childless?
* If "it" doesn't like to be called [[God (RDM)|God]], what does "it" like to be called?
** This is a possible reference to the numerous other names attributed to God by different religions.
* Will modern humans discover remains of Colonial technology such as Raptors?
** Adama and the others may have eventually destroyed the Raptors, or perhaps programed them to leave Earth's orbit towards the Sun on autopilot to prevent any chance of Colonial Technology being discovered by their descendants.
* Why do the angels still look like Baltar and Six 150,000 years later?
** It is possible that the Number Six line was based upon the appearance of the being that presented itself to Galen Tyrol and the others prior to the nuclear destruction of the first Earth, as the five modeled the new eight after people they knew, Cavil was Ellen's father etc. That said, the Angel Six may actually appear as such.
* Will humanity repeat the Cycle?
* Are Thrace and Anders together after Thrace's disappearance?
* Can Thrace ever return again?
* Do Baltar and Caprica-Six marry? Do they go into isolation like Adama and Tyrol, or will they be near a human colony?
* Since Caprica Six and Gaius Baltar genuinely love each other, do they eventually have a child?
* Were Caprica Six and Baltar "supposed" to bring about the destruction of the Twelve Colonies?
* Do Adama and Tyrol stay isolated for the rest of their lives?
* Why was Romo Lampkin chosen as President? Wouldn't a member of the Quorum of Captains have been selected?
** They likely needed a "neutral" party and had no time to hold an election. Also, a bond of trust had been established between Lee Adama and Romo in previous episodes.
* What became of the remaining prisoners aboard the <i>[[Astral Queen]]</i>? Were they sent out amongst the rest of the human/cylon population, or were all of them deposited in some geographical area completely isolated from the other humans and cylons?
* Were any of the groups provided with medicine, or medical training or at least someone with someone with a strong background in medicine before spreading out among the world?
* Is God related to the Lords of Kobol or something completely different?
* Why did the First Hybrid not want humanity to follow Thrace?
** It appears that there was a faction of Cylons who did not accept the Final Five's offer to have humanoid models built for them, so it stands to reason they were the most "pure" Cylons following their own path and would not want to share human DNA.
** It is also possible that "they must not follow her" refers to Kara's fatal journey to Earth between [[Maelstrom]] and [[Crossroads, Part II]] to a potential disaster which could have happened if Adama chose to follow Kara's directions with the entire fleet in [[Six of One]] rather than sending her on the [[Demetrius]].
* How many angels are there? Are the ones that resemble Six and Baltar the same as those that appeared to the Final Five and Thrace, or distinct?
* Why have angels not been appearing to the Final Five since Old Earth's destruction, only to Baltar, Six, and Thrace?
* Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?
* Will analysis of Hera's remains reveal that she was not a normal human? (See Notes)
** No because what we deem a modern human is in fact a mixture of Colonial human and Humanoid Cylon.
* Is the evolution of humans on two planets due to the same divine hand that's been guiding other events?
* Does human life evolve on planets other than Kobol and the new Earth?
* Who did Hera eventually have children with? A human or a Cylon? (See Analysis)
* Was it coincidence or divine intervention that an asteroid caused Racetrack's hand to hit the launch button for the nuclear weapons at the exact right moment?
* Why was ''Galactica'' able to jump without retracting its [[flight pods]] when escaping from the Colony? Did this cause ''Galactica'' to break its backbone?
* Will modern humanity venture out into space and discover places such as Kobol, the original Earth, the Twelve Colonies, and New Caprica?
* How close are the two Earths? The [[Tomb of Athena]] starmap showed constellations known on the second Earth, but was supposed to have been the sky as seen from the first. Does this mean they are very close indeed?
**New Earth is apparently 1 million light years from Kobol, and old Earth had to be within 2000 light years of Kobol and the 12 Colonies, based on the Final Five not having jump drives and having to travel at sub-light relativistic speeds. That means old Earth has to be nearly 1 million light years from new Earth. If this is the case, how do the constellations line up?
*** Possibly gross exaggeration (similar to "a million miles from home") of the distances involved in their travels, when considering the lengths of time it took for the fleet to initially reach Kobol, even with the hundreds of jumps that occurred during 33; and then the further time to reach the first Earth 2000 light years away. The diameter of the Milky Way galaxy is 100.000 lightyears and the fleet never leaves this galaxy.
* Why was Starbuck not aware of her true nature until after her role had been fulfilled?
* In what part of Earth (a northerly island with "highlands") did Galen Tyrol settle? Scotland?
** Scotland, according an interview with RDM <ref>http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html</ref>
* What is the nature of Starbuck's journey to the First Earth, crash, and return in the unscathed Viper? How did she "jump" to its coordinates? If her return was engineered by God to use her as an angel and bring humanity to Earth, why do so in a way that raised more questions about how it occurred than it answered?
* In what way, if any, did Starbuck fulfill her [[The Destiny|destiny]] as the "harbinger of death" that would lead humanity to its "end"?
** The pure Human and pure Cylon races both came to an end due to Starbuck's part in bringing them together. Furthermore, she helped bring about the apparent death of the Cycle.
*** It could be argued that she fulfilled her destiny in <i>modern humanity</i>came to an end when they the humans removed all technology from their existence and chose to live a primitive existence with both the Cylons and the tribesman they discovered on Earth.
* How did the proto-Greek polytheistic religion of the Colonies survive nearly 150,000 years before being revived in garbled form with the rise of Greek civilization? Did it die out in practice but return through the universal subconscious?
* In what way, if any, did the Cylons' monotheistic religion and the Colonies' polytheistic religion intertwine? Did they coexist peacefully, or were there conflicts? Do modern monotheistic religions trace their traditions ultimately to those of the Cylons and the [[Cult of Baltar]]?
* During the lie detector test in the flashback scene of William Adama's attempt to secure a civilian job, why did the interrogator ask him if he was a Cylon? At that point in history, it was unknown that the Cylons had humanoid appearance.
**The question was likely a control question to establish how a truthful response to an absurd question would register.
* Even after committing the fleet to destruction, there are still serviceable Raptors on the surface of Earth, which are jump-capable. Would any of the surviving humans or Cylons come to regret having settled on a primitive world without technology and decide to return to the stars in search of resources or other habitable planets? Is there any [[tylium]] available on Earth?
* Assuming that (as Tigh indicated to Adama in [[Revelations]]) the Final Five Cylons age but the rest do not, what will become of Caprica-Six, Athena, and any other survivors of the non-Final Five models? How will Helo and Baltar cope with the non-aging of their spouses as they themselves age?
**As the humanoid Cylons are biological by nature, they will age at some rate. Considering that they are nearly identical biologically to humans, they likely age at a similar rate. It is likely that they might have previously prevented the appearance of aging due to frequent resurrection. Since that is no longer an option, they would age and die like the humans do.
** What Saul and Bill discuss is not necessarily fact; they don't know everything about the Cylons and characters are often seen speculating throughout the show in ways that have turned out to be false. For eg. in Season 1, some were scared people had been "replaced" by Cylons, which never happens.
** Ellen said John Cavil was once a boy, but this is not necessarily literal.
***It is not. The [[Significant Eight]] were never physically children. Ellen was referring to their emotional level of maturity when they first emerged.
* Did the old-style [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] on the Colony fight for Cavil because they had [[telencephalic inhibitor]]s, or of their own free will? If the latter, why?
**If the old-style Cylons are still the Cylons that participated in the first Cylon war, they likely still do hold a grudge against humanity for enslaving them. Consider that Cavil has claimed in the past to want "justice" for what was done to his Centurion ancestors([[No Exit]]), and that the rebel Cylons are responsible for what could be taken as a genocide against the Cylons ([[The Hub]]), it's entirely possible that these old-style Centurions would hold a grudge against humanity and as such fight against them in an invasion of their home.
**Considering these old Centurions were sentient before Cavil was created it's highly unlikely Cavil was able to equip them with telecephalic inhibitors. These Centurions were probably treated as equals by the humanoid Cylons and were allowed to live with them on the Colony until they broke down.
***That may not be so, as the humanoid Cylons supposedly scrapped most of the old Centurions. The ones at the Colony may have been reprogrammed or been created after the First Cylon War with no free will.
* Is the Adama family the origin of the name Adam for the mythical first man?
* Has any of modern Humanity inherited Hera's ability to project?
* Was there anyone like Kara Thrace in previous iterations of the cycle?
* Does the cult continue under Paulla's leadership?
* How will Lee explain Kara's sudden disappearance to those at his settlement?
** People will probably just assume she was killed in the battle or that she went into isolation like Adama and Tyrol.
* Why was Doral convinced that the Final Five and the humans were trying to deceive the Cylons? The download was disrupted by Tyrol alone, not the other four Cylons. For that matter, when Tyrol attacked Foster, why didn't anyone try to separate them?
* When the Final Five interfaced with each other during the download, did any of them regain their memories of events during their journey to The Twelve Colonies?
* Were the Ones, Fours and Fives somehow able to avoid extinction?
** If not, did they try to leave a legacy through the purely mechanical models, or by continuing the previously abandoned research which created the hybrids?

== Official Statements ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Virtual Baltar says the last line of the series as he walks down a street of modern day New York City with Virtual Six:''
:'''Virtual Baltar''': "Silly Me.....silly, silly me".

*''The Galactica is about to jump to The Colony and into harms way:''
:'''Admiral Adama''': Just so there'll be no misunderstandings later... ''Galactica'' has seen a lot of history, gone through a lot of battles. This ''will'' be her last. She will not fail us if we do not fail her. If we succeed in our mission, ''Galactica'' will bring us home. If we don't... it doesn’t matter anyway.

*''The Final Five are discussing things among themselves about to download the specifications of Resurrection technology. Cavil is impatient''
:'''Cavil''':"Not to rush you or anything, but you are keeping two entire civilizations waiting!

*''Cavil's last word before he commits suicide.''
:'''Cavil''': Frak!

*''Nuclear missiles has knocked the Colony falling into the Singularity and is dragging Galactica with it and Starbuck is frantically attempting to figure out the jump coordinates.''
:'''Starbuck''': There must be some kind of way out of here.

*''Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar speculating if the cycle will continue.''
:'''Virtual Baltar''': All of this has happened before...
:'''Virtual Six''': But does it all have to happen again?

*''Sam Anders, essentially Galactica's Hybrid, says his last words to Kara Thrace after she leaves his side.''
:'''Samuel Anders''': See you on the other side

*''Baltar to Caprica Six on New Earth in unspoken reference about his father''
:'''Baltar''': "You know, I know about farming." (sobs)

*''Laura Roslin is speaking to Dr. Cottle about the state of her health which both know it is grave with only a few days to live. Also, she is about to essentially go into battle to retrieve Hera and the Doctor appears to be on the verge of choking up:''
:'''Laura Roslin''': Don't spoil your image, just light a cigarette and go and grumble."

*''Former Admiral of the Fleet William Adama is showing Laura their new home on New Earth in a Raptor. She sees a heard of grezlles stampeding at the sight of the Raptor over the lush and rich landscape and says her last words:''
:'''Roslin''': So much life...

*''William Adama is sitting on a high ridge overlooking what would later be called the African Savannah in spectacular view. Laura Roslin's grave is behind him close by and he talks to her spirit. It is his last statement in the series:''
:'''William Adama''': I laid out the cabin. It's gonna have an easternly view. You should see the light we get here. When the sun comes from behind the mountains, it's almost heavenly. Reminds me of you."

*''Boomer has just given over Hera to Athena, saving her life from Cavil and Simon dissection-and both redeeming herself and condemning herself to death''
:'''Boomer''' (to Athena): Tell the old man, I owed him one.
:'''Athena''' (angrily) Doesn't change anything you did though!
:'''Boomer''' (shakes her head slightly): No. We all make our choices. Today I made a choice. I think its my last one.
:'''Starbuck''': All right this is really touching. Now can we get the frak out of here!?!
:'''Boomer''' (to Starbuck): You should know that your Raptor been destroyed. You can't go back that way.
:(Athena passes Hera to Helo)
:'''Athena''': Yeah well, that is not the plan.
:'''Starbuck''' (sardonically): Can we ''not'' tell her the plan?
:'''Athena''': Right.
:''(Athena and Boomer look each other in the eye for a moment. She raises her weapon. Boomer makes no move to escape, but stands strait head up, accepting if not welcoming her fate. Athena fires. Boomer is dead before she hits the deck.)''

== Guest Stars ==
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]]
* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Number Four]]
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Sherman Cottle]]
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Kerry Norton]] as [[Layne Ishay]]
* [[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Number One]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brenden "Hotdog" Costanza]]
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]
* [[Colin Lawrence]] as Ensign [[Hamish McCall|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]]
* [[Lara Gilchrist]] as [[Paulla Schaffer]]
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Marine [[Allan Nowart]]
* [[Leela Savasta]] as [[Tracey Anne]]
* [[Darcy Laurie]] as [[Dealino]]
* [[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] as [[Hera Agathon]]
* [[Tobias Mehler]] as [[Zak Adama]]
* [[Simone Bailly]] as [[Shona]]
* [[Kevin McNulty]] as [[Frank Porthos]]
* [[Richard Jollymore]] as Marine #1
* [[Anthony St. John]] as Marine #2
* [[Dan Payne]] as [[Sean Allison]]
* [[Holly Eglinton]] as Stripper
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]] (uncredited)
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] as Man at news stand (uncredited)

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Daybreak, Part II

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| title= Daybreak, Part II & Part III
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== Overview ==

===Act 1===

The final episode begins with a series of events before before the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Fall]].
*In a strip bar in [[Caprica City]], [[William Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh|Saul]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] enjoy themselves. Adama questions whether to take a civilian job, rather than to take command of an aged battlestar<ref>This is a side reference to the events of the episode, "[[Hero]]"</ref> Over drinks, Adama decides to take the job.
*Elsewhere on Caprica, [[Lee Adama]] is having dinner with [[Kara Thrace]] and her fiancee, [[Zak Adama]]. Zak questions why his brother joined the [[Colonial Forces]], despite Lee's idealism and his dislike of his father. Lee simply answers that he received college funding in exchange for service.
*Elsewhere, [[Laura Roslin]] greets her date, [[Sean Allison]], at her home. After realizing he seemed familiar, Roslin finally recalls where she had seen him. Sean was a former student from years ago. Despite the age difference, Roslin decides to let him stay the night. "The night's young. Apparently, so are you," she says. "Let's see what happens."
*Back at the strip bar, Bill Adama challenges Saul on whether he'd take the civilian desk job. Saul doesn't answer.
*Lee Adama and Thrace manage to drag Zak to a couch after a night of drinking. But Thrace isn't done, and pulls out more alcohol for shots between her and Lee.
*Bill Adama is drunkenly sick, vomiting outside somewhere on the street. With a weak smile, he looks up to the stars in the night sky.

Aboard ''[[Galactica]]'', [[Gaius Baltar]] sits in the former home of his [[Cult of Baltar|followers]], now empty. He listens to the [[Virtual Beings|Virtual Six]], telling him to trust in [[God (RDM)|God's]] plan for him. When he asks what that plan is, she tells him that he already following it. Paulla interrupts his conversation, but Baltar asks for five minutes before he leaves.

===Act 2===

* In ''Galactica's'' [[sickbay]], Dr. [[Cottle]] (who will not be staying aboard the ship for the battle) leaves assistant [[Layne Ishay]] two injections of heavy medication to allow Laura Roslin enough lucidity and mobility for 48 hours. She thanks him sincerely, causing Cottle to be something he'd rarely been: speechless.

* In the [[pilot ready room]], [[Karl Agathon]] briefs the [[Raptor]] teams on the special nature of their rescue mission. Despite the odds, all volunteer.

* Lee Adama briefs the [[marines]] on where little Hera would likely be: deep inside the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[The Colony|colony]].

* Admiral Adama work out the tactics of the battle against the colony. Close-range combat; nuclear weapons and missiles will not be possible for the battlestar. He orders the gun [[battery|batteries]] to fire until exhausted, and after that, "start throwing rocks," he says with a small smile.

* The [[Final Five]] plan out what they can offer as well. As befitting a cybernetic race, they consider a tactic used by Cylons in the past. They will use [[Samuel Anders]], now effectively a [[Hybrid]] on ''[[Galactica]]'', to interface with the Colony and its Hybrids to interrupt their commands, slowing the effectiveness of the Colony's weapon systems.
* The catch is that Anders will need to be connected to the [[DRADIS]], fire control and [[C-3]] systems. They plan to take Anders and connect him inside [[CIC]].

* Admiral Adama hands over command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to [[Hoshi]], noting that if they aren't back from the mission in 12 hours, they will never come back.
* In CIC, Saul Tigh jokes at his old friend at the bizarre sight of a Cylon interfaced to his battlestar, gooey wires and conduit that extend over Adama's command console everywhere and into the DRADIS console. "Still not too late to flush them all out of the airlock," Tigh quips. "Take too much time," Adama answers.
* With Lee Adama staying for the attack, he appoints [[Romo Lampkin]] as President of the Twelve Colonies. He joins Admiral Hoshi on the last Raptor to leave ''Galactica'' for the baseship, the Fleet's new flagship.
* Baltar's followers get in the ship. Baltar enters, but then tells [[Paulla]] that he must stay on the ship. Lee Adama throws Baltar a weapon.
* Adding to the Battlestar's attack force, a Number Six leads a large number of [[Cylon Centurion]]s down the [[hangar deck]], some with a red sash painted on them for identification.

===Act 3===

* A shot of the Fleet shows that the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] has fully regenerated from its damage from the start of the [[Cylon Civil War]]. It is ready to lead the civilians to safety while ''Galactica'' goes hunting, retracting its [[flight pod]]s to prep for [[FTL]].
* Adama commands a ship-wide readiness report, a sort of countdown.
* Meanwhile, in sickbay, Layne Ishay prep sickbay for wounded. Laura Roslin assists as best she can.
* [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] are in [[launch tube]]s. The entire Raptor squadron, armed with missiles, have been placed inside the starboard flight pod deck, amidst the ruins of the old [[Galactica Museum]].
* Gaius Baltar is a soldier protecting the hallways against borders. He is surprised to find [[Caprica-Six]] by his side.
* In CIC, Ellen Tigh signals that Anders is ready to work.
* Adama gives a final speech, a final understanding and call to arms.

* The battlestar jumps only meters from the edge of the Colony--and is immediately besieged by the Cylon batteries.
* With little time, Sam Anders attempts to make contact with the Colony Hybrids--and takes them offline, apparently by causing them to go into a state of ecstasy. Ellen warns that [[Cylon Raider]]s will appear any minute.
* ''Galactica'' responds by launching its fighter wings. The Vipers launch, and the Raptors jump directly from within the starboard pod--causing incredible damage to the pod as it vents open--but now placing themselves on the opposite side of the Colony in a flanking position.
* Adama orders the battlestar's engines at flank speed. He rams the alligator head into the Colony. ''Galactica's'' inhabitants take a beating, but so does the Colony. The Colonials have breeched it, forming an entrance. Lee Adama leads his marines and several Cylon Centurions inside from a front airlock.
* [[Sharon Agathon]] and Helo's Raptor make their way to the Colony's interior.
* [[Racetrack]] and [[Skulls]] arm their nuclear missiles, presumably to strike the colony after the rescue. But suddenly a piece of debris strikes their Raptor, killing all aboard and leaving the Raptor adrift.
* The Raptors breech another section of the Colony, and their teams enter.

* Deep inside the Colony, a [[Simon]] works on young Hera as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] looks on in disgust. When she questions why he continues to work on Hera, the Simon explains that they maintain and superior force and numbers.
* Suddenly, Boomer assaults the Simon, snapping his neck. She takes Hera out of the room.

===Act 4===

* The Colony's halls are filled with gunfire. Cylon Centurions, including older [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Model 0005s]] fight each other as the Colonial fire teams push through.
* [[Cavil]], a [[Number Five]] and another Simon decide to go on the offensive, to attack the battlestar with their troops.

* In a hallway in ''Galactica'', ready to repel boarders, Caprica-Six and Baltar come to terms with their old relationship. As they kiss, they hear a Six's voice. "All of the pieces are falling into place."
* The Virtual Six--''and'' the Virtual Baltar--stand above them. To the surprise of Caprica-Six and Baltar, they can hear and see each of the avatars.
* With a shudder, the battlestar hull is breeched as waves of enemy Centurions, both old-model and modern, pour into the ship.

* The Agathon's team find Boomer, holding Hera. She gives the child to them, telling them to tell Admiral Adama that she "owed him one." With the child safe, Athena shoots Boomer.
* A flashback scene shows what Boomer meant: a time back in her days on '''Galactica'', as Adama and Tigh redress her but give her another chance to be a better pilot.

* Ishay has her hands full in sickbay, trying to triage and treat as many people as she can. The event is taxing, physically and mentally, for Roslin, as she comforts more dying than not.

* Lee Adama's team connects with Starbuck's team, with Hera in tow. When Lee asks where Thrace was, she answers, "Stopped for coffee."<ref>This might be the one time in the history of the series where an obvious joke to [[w:Starbucks Coffee|Starbucks Coffee]] has been used.</ref> With their objective complete and no other Colonial troops found, they head back to the battlestar's alligator-head.

* ''Galactica'' batteries are being targeted by Raiders. She is losing what little defensive ability she has left. Enemy forces are coming at the reserve forces--where Baltar waits.

===Act 5===

* Caprica-Six and Baltar hold off the enemy Centurions. Baltar's passion at killing Centurions gets a bit out of control as Lee Adama's team reenter the battlestar with Hera. As more enemies appear, Lee and Baltar fire away.
* Laura Roslin sits and experiences yet another vision of the [[Opera House]] and little Hera. Struggling to walk, driven by something she can't fully realize, she gets up to find Hera.
* Starbuck leads the Agathons through the hallways, but a Number Five appears from behind, seriously wounding Helo in the leg and killing a marine before Starbuck eliminates him. A damaged, but still functioning enemy Centurion shows up and in the confusion, Hera runs away. Athena runs after her at the request of her wounded husband.
* Hera walks amidst the gunfighting, when soon she encounters Roslin, who pulls out of the path of an enemy patrol and to safety. But when Roslin turns back to the child, she is gone again.
* Caprica-Six and Baltar are running, and are out of ammo. Suddenly they see Hera, as well as Roslin and Athena--all grouped together as in the Opera House vision. Caprica-Six scoops up the child and enters a hallway, closing the hatchway, preventing Athena and Roslin from following. The opera house vision had Caprica-Six and Baltar closing the door on boht Athena and Roslin after picking up Hera.
* As the scene shifts between visions of the Opera House and the corridors, Baltar and Caprica-Six realize what they must do: follow their vision into the Opera House--which turns out to be CIC, where the Final Five reside, overlooking the lower deck of CIC as they appeared in the vision, standing above.
* Adama and his men have apparently just finished defending the CIC from a break-in by Cavil, a Doral and a Simon. The Doral and the Simon are dead, and Cavil is under guard. An explosion rocks the CIC, and Cavil picks up a gun and grabs Hera as a shield.
* Baltar pleads for the child's freedom, telling Cavil that Hera is key to humanity's survival as well. He reasons with Cavil that there are higher forces at work, that led them all, here, for a reason. Baltar also reveals that he has been visited by angels - the agents of God. When Cavil questions if God has his people's interests at heart, on how Baltar knows that God is on his side, Baltar replies (in an allusion of something [[The Hand of God (RDM)| Virtual Six once told him]]), "God is not on anyone's side." The Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar look on with a pleased expression.
* Baltar asks Cavil to take a leap of faith. Saul Tigh sweetens the pot by offering to reteach Cavil the secret of [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]], this time in exchange not only for Hera's life but for permanent peace, where the Cylons leave humanity alone.
* Cavil agrees. He uses the Battlestar comm to order his forces to stand down and releases Hera. Admiral Adama orders stand-down as well.

===Act 6===

* Vipers and Raptors return to ''Galactica'' as the Raiders return to the Colony. Laura Roslin joins the admiral in CIC.
* The Five each know part of the secret to resurrection. They will combine their knowledge by connecting themselves through the water in Ander's tank. Ellen Tigh tells the others that the process will also share memories as well as data.
* But before they begin, [[Tory Foster]], visibly anxious, warns the others that they will see "certain things" of their bad behavior. She tries to prepare the others of what they will see of her. An impatient Cavil screams. "I don't mean to rush you, but you are keeping two civilizations waiting!"
* The Five dip their hands and make the connection. As the data flows to the Colony, Foster's visions of murdering [[Cally Tyrol]] in an effort to protect her secret of being a Cylon comes to the forefront, surprising the others of the Five, and angering [[Galen Tyrol]] immediately.
* Tyrol pulls his hand from the pool and wraps both hands tightly around Foster's neck in a death-grip, eventually snapping her neck.
* As Anders screams from the sudden disconnection, the Cylons in CIC believe they are deceived and open fire. The Colonials kill all but Cavil, who shouts an exasperated "[[Frak]]!" before putting his pistol in his mouth and pulling the trigger.

* High above, as the Raiders begin attacking ''Galactica'' again, [[Racetrack]]'s damaged Raptor drifts, its crew lifeless. A rock strikes the ship, causing Racetrack's dead hand to strike the firing button to the Raptor's tactical nuclear missiles, launching them all straight at the Colony.
* The force of the explosions severely damage the Colony, pushing it towards the black hole, threatening to take ''Galactica'' with it.
* Adama orders Kara Thrace to make a [[blind jump]], but Thrace thinks about [[The Music|the music her father played]], the music that Hera wrote to her. Recalling the mathematical associations she tried to discern from the music, Thrace realizes the music works as a series of FTL coordinates.
* She punches in the coordinates into the [[Computers|navigation computer]] and jumps the ship.

* A flashback scene appears where Lee Adama and Kara Thrace talk about how she [[The Destiny|thinks about death]] every time she gets into a cockpit.

* ''Galactica'' completes the jump--but the strain of the last battle causes the battlestar's structure to ripple and twist as structural members tear and break. The ship will never jump again. Engines and life support are still online, but ''Galactica's'' backbone is broken.
* "Where have you taken us, Kara?" Roslin asks, as the scene changes to an exterior shot to show the battlestar flying over a gray, rocky moon.
* But is not just a moon...''Galactica'' has arrived at the ''moon of Earth''...another Earth, this one with the continent of Africa in prominent view.

===Act 7===

* The Fleet jumps into Earth orbit as ''Galactica'' passes by. A Raptor came to Hoshi to guide them to Earth.
* Landing ship after landing ship leave for the new world.
* On a green, rich savannah in Africa, Admiral Adama, Cottle, Saul Tigh, Hoshi, and Baltar look on, lying prone on their stomachs with binoculars at a tribe of early humans. Cottle confirms that the native humans are compatible with the Colonials genetically.
* At a camp, as Lampkin considers a building of a new city, Lee Adama tells him to let humanity start all over again, leave their technology behind, which has almost always gotten them into trouble. Let the Colonials enter Earth with just their basic possessions.

* Admiral Adama maps out a plan to populate various continents and land masses, spreading out humanity and Cylon far and wide, distributing supplies to give all a good chance of survival. To Lampkin's surprise, the peoples of the Fleet take a liking to leaving technology behind.
* A [[Number Two]] tells Adama that the remaining Twos, Sixes, and Eights will stay on Earth as well, handing over the baseship to the Centurions, to give them their own freedom. When Lampkin questions if setting the Centurions free won't cause another holocaust hundreds of years from now, Ellen Tigh agrees it's a risk, but believes the cycle of death has been ended. Adama agrees.
* Adama tells that, after everyone is offloaded from the ships, the Fleet will reunite with '''Galactica'' a final time. Piloted by Samuel Anders, still in his tank in CIC, connected into the battlestar, he will fly all the ships on a final voyage into the Sun.

* Kara Thrace, eyes filled with tears, meets with Anders at his tank, kissing him goodbye for the last time, and leaving her [[dog tags]]. As she leaves, he mutters, "I'll see you on the other side."

===Act 8===

* Admiral William Adama descends into the hangar deck, wearing a [[flight suit]]. The deck is otherwise completely empty of anything, and anyone.
* He takes a seat in a [[Viper Mark II]]. Not just any Mark II...but the one that Galen Tyrol's team rebuilt for him as a retirement gift [[Miniseries, Night 1|so long ago]].
* As Adama's Viper launches, the scene shifts to six years prior, where Adama is taking a lie detector test for the prospective desk job. When the test administrator asks him test questions such as, "Are you a Cylon?" and "Have you ever stolen money from a cash drawer?" Adama is angered and leaves, saying, "I'd rather spend the rest of my career--what's left of it--on a broken old down ship, than to have someone sit here and question my word."
* Husker's Viper makes a final fly-by of the old battlestar, looking at her one last time before pointing his Viper towards Earth.

* Samuel Anders' voice from the past talks of his days in sport, dreaming of perfection, and being linked to it, to creation, as Anders guides the Fleet, now united to the mathematical perfection he once spoke of through his duties as a Hybrid.
* As the [[Colonial_Anthem|Colonial Anthem]]--a version of the [[Original Series]] main theme--plays, the scene shows ''Galactica'' and the Fleet gathered a final time, heading away from Earth and towards the sun to its demise.

* Walking in the savannah, the Tighs speak with Galen Tyrol a final time. He has decided to go to the northern highlands of Earth (likely Scotland <ref>http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html</ref>). The scene shifts to the Tighs, partying back in Caprica City, once upon a time.

===Act 9===

* On the plains, Bill Adama sits with Laura Roslin, watching herds of gazelle. Her vision weakening, she tries to use her glasses with the binoculars. "A very beautiful world," she says. When she asks what the name of the planet is, Adama tells her it's Earth. He adds, "Earth is a dream," believing that their new home, a long-sought destination, deserves the name.
* Roslin's breathing becomes labored and shallow. Adama offers to give her a better look at the wildlife. He picks her up and carries her to a nearby Raptor.
* Lee Adama and Kara Thrace notice and meet Bill Adama there. The Adamas hug, and Bill Adama gives Thrace a final greeting of "[[Nothing but the rain]]" before he hugs and kisses her. Thrace and Lee wave goodbye to a smiling Roslin as the Raptor ascends.

* Lee realizes that his father isn't coming back. Kara Thrace tells Lee that she isn't coming back, either. "I just know that I am done here. I've completed my journey...and it feels good."

* A flashback scene, back in Thrace's apartment, where Thrace dares Lee to make love to her on her dining room table. But before they could do anything, the crash of a glass partially awakens Zak, causing the two to realize what they were doing. They shake hands and say goodbye.

* "Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Lee," Kara Thrace says. As Lee tells her of desire to explore and climb mountains, he turns to find that Kara Thrace has vanished, as if she were a ghost. "Goodbye, Kara," he says. "You won't be forgotten."
* A flashback scene shows the pigeon that would be trapped in Lee's apartment after his visit to Kara and Zak. It looks at Lee and flies out of the window and away.

* In another flashback from six years prior, Laura Roslin returns to stand by the side of the bed, thanks Sean Allison, but tells him that they will not meet this way again, and asks him to leave. As the man leaves, Roslin returns to her bathroom, lights a cigarette, then makes a phone call. She accepts the opportunity to work on Mayor [[Richard Adar]]'s campaign.

* Bill Adama's Raptor flies over flamingos. "So much..life," Laura Roslin says...her final words as she closes her eyes and quietly passes.
* Moments go by before Bill realizes that she is gone.
* In tears, Bill removes his wedding ring and places it on Laura's hand. "Right there...I'm going to build our cabin right there," he says, pointing to some hills.

===Act 10===

* A line of people walk into the wilderness, calm and ready to take on the world.
* The Agathons walk as well, Helo using a makeshift crutch, talking of hunting and other pleasantries. Hera runs about in play, a smile on her face.

* Gaius Baltar and Caprica-Six look on at Hera playing as the Virtual Six and Baltar reappear. When Caprica-Six questions if the protection of Hera was all that God wanted of them, the Virtual Six replies, "God's plan is never complete." "Great..." Baltar replies sullenly.
* Virtual-Baltar counters, "I think it's safe to say that, from now on, your lives will be less...eventful."

* Another flashback to Caprica City. Baltar offers Caprica-Six an opportunity to "peek" into the [[Colonial Defense Mainframe]].

* When Baltar points to some land, he recalls his heritage, and [[Julius Baltar|his father]], and that he knows a bit about farming, to a bit of tears.

* Bill Adama sits, looking out into the hills and valley. "I laid out the cabin today. It's going to have an easterly view. You should see the light that we get here. When the sun comes from behind those mountains. It's almost heavenly. It reminds me of you."
* As he speaks, the camera pans up to show Adama, seated near the cairn he built for Laura Roslin's body.

* The scene turns to show Hera playing and looking upward. Scenes of wood and desert and sea pass by in a geologic montage to reveal an Earth city--New York City--150,000 years ahead in time.

* As a fly-over of the city appears, a voice-over of Virtual-Six reads from a magazine article of the Tanzanian discovery of the bones of what scientists believe our the remains of the [[w:mitochondrial Eve|mitochondrial Eve]], the matrilineal common ancestor of mankind.

* As [[Ron D. Moore|a man reads]] about the scientific discovery, the Virtual Six and Baltar look over his shoulder at a magazine article of the news, and reveal what they know...the bones are that of Hera Agathon, born of a Cylon mother and a human father. No other people on the street appear to notice them.

* The two talk of the technology and decadence, of whether this Earth will repeat the mistakes of generations past and again become overwhelmed by their creations. The Six thinks not, believing it to be God's plan.

* "You know it doesn't like that name," Baltar says. Six only looks back in mild defiance. "Silly. Silly me," he replies as the two walk away into the metropolis.

* The episode concludes with scenes of robots, from toys to advanced automatons growing and evolving, as Jimi Hendrix's--Earth's popular version--of "[[The Music|All Along The Watchtower]]" plays, ending with an image of [http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-10744-Robot+or+Human%3F+Here%27s+ACTROID.html an attractive-looking female automaton] gazing out over Times Square from a giant outdoor television screen.

== Notes ==
*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th <ref>http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html</ref>. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" and "[[Rapture]]".
**According to the episode podcast, the sequences on Earth at the end were the ones filmed at Kamloops. Some CGI was used to remove distinctive Canadian evergreen trees from the background and replace them with more Africa-looking foilage, but otherwise the landscape was actually a decent match for Africa.
*Although Part I had a runtime of one hour, Part II will run for two hours. An even longer cut of Daybreak will later be released on DVD. <ref>{{cite_news|first=|last=|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/07/talking-battles.html|title=Talking 'Battlestar Galactica's' finale, 'Caprica' and the 'Battlestar' TV movie with Ron Moore}}</ref>
*There was no final population count given after the engagement with the Cavil forces. However, there were no reported deaths by accident or violence before the engagement so the population count is most likely the same as it was in "[[Daybreak, Part I]]" before the attack on the Cylon Colony, 39,516.
**A new population count post-engagement is given in the separate iTunes release of Daybreak, Part III. The count is 39,406, putting Colonial casualties from the battle at 110. Then shortly after their arrival on New Earth former President of the 12 Colonies of Kobol Laura Roslin dies, and Kara Thrace vanishes without a trace. From this we can derive that the number of people settled on New Earth is 39,404. This does not include the unknown number of humanoid Cylons from the Baseship (which probably was never stated) and possibly Athena and the remaining three of the Final Five who aren't considered human survivors.
*With the ramming of [[The Colony]] by ''Galactica'' Hera's prophetic [[Projection]] at the very beginning of [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]] came true. In her projection as she was playing on ''Galactica'''s tactical light table with the models of ''Galactica'', three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, she rammed a model Baseship with the model of ''Galactica''.
*According to the podcast, the ''Galactica'' was originally going to jump right inside the Colony for the attack, but RDM changed it because he wanted the ship to have open space around it for the final Viper/Raider dogfight.
*There is a poetic ring to the nature of the conflict of the Second Cylon War:
** It began with the Cylon attack on Colonies nearly wiping out mankind. It ended with the Colonial attack on the Cylon Colony very likely wiping out the Cylons who didn't join with the humans.
**Shortly after the Cylon attack on Caprica, Baltar -- having unintentionally brought about the near-annihilation of the human species -- flees Caprica when Karl Agathon gives him his place on a Raptor, feeling that his own life is less important to save than a famed scientist's. But at the end of the series, it is Baltar who puts his own life at risk for the sake of saving Agathon's daughter Hera and expresses concern for her future well being to the very end of the series (both ends of this parallel occur in wide open fields).
**Agathon and Cylon Sharon Valerii are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.
**The earliest known detail we see of Gaius Baltar's life is his effort to break away from his family history as farmers, and his shame over his heritage. The last event we see in his embrace of a new beginning as a farmer.
**Baltar and Number Six are seen together near the very beginning of the series and near the very end.
**The earliest event we see from Laura Roslin's life (retroactively) is the death of her sisters, killed during transit. The last event of her life that we see is her own death, which occurs during transit.
**The series began with Galactica's scheduled decommissioning and ends with its actual decommissioning.
**The series begins with a selfish decision Baltar makes (to give Caprica Six access to military mainframes) that nearly destroys Colonial humanity. It ends with a selfless decision Baltar makes (to fulfill his destiny in saving Hera) that gives Colonial humanity a new start in the form of Hera.
** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.
**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies.
*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate forethought, gave [[Caprica Six]] the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it if caught. Previously Baltar's giving of Caprica Six the secrets was implied-or at least inferred-to be from naive vanity to impress his girlfriend Caprica Six.
*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Laura Roslin]] and the destruction of Cavil's forces. The [[Doral]] and [[Simon]] lines are also presumably wiped out, or at least decimated beyond recovery. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and her current whereabouts are unknown. In detail:
**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with [[Helo]] and beating her in the lavatory.
**Cavil took his own life in Galactica's CIC when his side lost.
***It is unknown what happened to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line. The death of only a single Cavil is depicted.
**Racetrack and Skulls's Raptor was struck by an asteroid fragment penetrating their wind screen and striking them. Both Skulls and Racetrack were killed on impact. Racetrack's dead hand later hit the launch button that launched the nuclear missiles after her Raptor was hit again by an asteroid.
**Tory was killed by [[Galen Tyrol]] in revenge for Tory killing his wife [[Cally]] after he learned Tory murdered her during the mutual and involuntary exchange of private information of the [[Final Five]]'s minds while downloading Resurrection technology data to the Cavil forces.
**Anders guided himself in ''Galactica'' and the Fleet into the Sun.
**Roslin died of cancer as Adama was giving her a bird's eye view of their new home on second Earth in a Raptor.
**Since they did not have either Cylon females or Resurrection technology the Cavil, Simon and Doral models on the various Cylon Baseships presumably died out after their natural life spans were exhausted.
**Kara was presumably taken by the same force, stated to be God by [[Virtual Six]], that resurrected her.
*The fate of numerous supporting characters remains unrevealed, including [[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]], last seen flying his Viper back to ''Galactica'' after the initial cease fire, numerous mutineers such as [[Diana Seelix]], and others such as Doc Cottle's nurse. The episode also never touches on what became of [[Cult of Baltar|Baltar's cult]], including founding member [[Jeanne]] who is absent from the finale entirely.
**Since we didn't see them volunteer in the hanger deck nor they were depicted in the attack it is a fair assumption Seelix didn't volunteer. Ishay, Cottle's "nurse" was on Galactica away from the fighting she was last seen triaging with Roslin. Unless she did something like hit her head hard while being thrown to the deck by a severe explosion, it is very likely that she survived. On the other hand, no mention of Hot Dog's death was said if it occurred. Given the precedent of Galen Tyrol's incarceration not being mentioned for an episode it is not certain he is dead or alive. The Cult of Baltar including Jeanne, Paulla, and Tracy Anne stayed behind on the Baseship which stayed with the fleet.
*The recurring subplot involving the faction called the [[Sons Of Ares]], in particular its growing conflict with the [[Cult of Baltar]], is not resolved.
**The rivalry between the Cult of Baltar and the Sons of Ares lives and doings where disrupted by the evacuation of Galactica and the resettlement on New Earth. They would have a hard time resuming their activities in all the confusion.
*This episode also marks the destruction of the ''Galactica'' and her Fleet.
*The Raiders are seen using missiles for the first time since the Fall of the Twelve Colonies.
*Racetrack's Raptor, and possibly the other ones in its flight group destroyed in the assault on the Colony, was carrying the last nukes from ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'', marking the end of humanity's use of these weapons (which were used to destroy the Twelve Colonies at the start of the series). Presumably the baseship's store of nukes remains intact.
*Apparently contrary to previous information, ''Galactica'' executes a successful jump with her flight pods extended. It is unclear why on previous occasions the pods needed to be retracted prior to jumping, or why the Cylons targeting the pods in the mini-series battle would have crippled the ship. However, when ''Galactica'' comes out of the jump a Viper can be seen being hurled clear from the ship, which is presumably why retracting the pods is advisable. It is also possible that the strain of jumping with the pods extended contributed to ''Galactica'''s structural failure.
*According to the podcast, when Laura asks "Where have you taken us, Kara?" Starbuck was supposed to reply, "Somewhere along the watchtower." Director Michael Rhymer did not like this idea and simply didn't shoot the line. Moore later agreed that it was better not to have Kara speak.
*The shot of ''Galactica'' flying over the Moon and reaching Earth was inspired by real-life shots from the Apollo space programme, specifically Apollo 8's shot of coming around the dark side of the Moon and the Apollo 17 shot of the Earth itself.
*Before deciding that ''Galactica'' should reach Earth in prehistoric times, Moore toyed with the idea of having the Fleet arrive during the Hellenistic period and formed the basis of the ancient Greek religion and society. However, this idea was rejected as it suggested that the Colonials blessed only Western civilisation with their knowledge rather than all of humanity, and it did not acknowledge Hera's importance. Moore read an article on the idea of a common human ancestor which he decided should be Hera. This also explains why the Fleet personnel landed in Africa (the network had been suggesting it should be North America, presumably to match the final shot of Season 3).
*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth, and the humans of today are the distant descendants of Hera.
*The tracing of the human blood line through [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial DNA|Mitochondrial DNA]] to a common ancestor and dubbing her [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] is a real theory. Mitochondrial Eve was the ''matrilineal most recent common ancestor'', the most recent person in the female line that all of humanity can be said to be from. In other words, Hera is everybody's mother's mother's ... mother's mother. This does NOT imply that she is the only ancestor of modern humans. In fact, it implies that each female alive at the time either has no surviving descendants, or is ALSO a common ancestor (though not a purely maternal one).
** In the series, Hera is Mitochondrial Eve, meaning that all of modern humanity is a combination of Colonial humanity and Cylon, although there maybe ancestors of native New Earth in the current population from the male line of descendants.
** The fossilized remains are said to be of a young woman, indicating Hera does not live to see a middle age, though she has children before she dies. Specifically, she must have had daughters to pass on her mitochondrial DNA.
** Since mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother only, and Hera has a Cylon mother, her mitochondrial DNA and that of all her descendants is pure Cylon (discounting mutations).
*The Centurions are granted full independence and subsequently depart in the rebel Baseship to pursue their own destiny. Their status 150,000 years later remains a mystery. The Colonials and humanoid Cylons believe it is unlikely they will be a threat, as they have no reason to bear a grudge this time around.
*The ''[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]'', the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun]'' is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.
*When ''Galactica'' and the Fleet fly into the Sun, only 15 ships can be seen when at least 35 ships were still in the Fleet during the Mutiny, and upwards of 90 after the events of the mini-series. However, establishing shots of the Fleet rarely show more than a dozen ships in one shot regardless, and the implication is that the entire Fleet was destroyed.
**According to the podcast for the episode, the destruction of the Fleet and the spreading out of the surviving Colonials over the planet's surface was supposed to be a sign of humanity's commital to their new world, not necessarily promoting a Luddite agenda. The comparison that is drawn is Cortes burning his ships on the shores of central America so his men would not have a way of retreating if things got difficult. However, RDM later mentions that one of the last shots was to have been of the Colonials destroying their last Raptors, which suggests that the Luddite approach was more what they were aimng for.
*Also in the podcast, RDM is happy to confirm that Tyrol did find some natives in Scotland and ended up being the 'King of the Scots', apparently since Aaron Douglas loved the idea of Scottish civilisation (with its tradition of great engineers) being descended from Tyrol.
*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all. In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, "Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe", W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver. [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x] Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.
**According to the podcast, Ronald D. Moore was wearing a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt in the final shot, but they chose not to show this. The shot of the realistic Japanese female robot was found by Terry Moore online and was referred to as the 'next' Number Six by RDM.
**Also according to the podcast, Baltar saying "It doesn't like that name," is significant, and is indeed meant to confirm that whatever 'God' is in the series, it isn't necessarily what the name implies.
*The Centurion Model 0005 in the museum case is a retcon. In the [[Miniseries]], it was an Original Series costume, with the black skirt and non-exposed joints. In this episode, it is a CGI First War Centurion 0005 with exposed joints and no black skirt.
**It is not explained why the museum flight pod is shown to be in nearly pristine condition when, in addition to four years of battles and the atmosphere-drop over New Caprica, a Cylon Heavy Raider crashed through the overhead window and crushed several of the exhibits in ''[[Scattered]]''. Repairing the museum and exhibits would have seemed to be a low priority during subsequent events.
*Reference (possibly intentional) is made to Olmos' earlier work: Adama's flushing of flamingos while flying a Raptor is reminiscent of the flamingos flushing during the opening credits of Miami Vice, the TV series in which Edward James Olmos co-starred.
*The news network covering the story "Advances in Robotics" as Angel Baltar and Six pass by is [http://www.msnbc.com MSNBC], the 24 hour news network arm of the NBC Universal media conglomerate which also owns the SyFy Channel (at the time the SciFi Channel), which produces ''Battlestar Galactica'' and airs the series in the United States.
**The last advance in robotics shown was a humanoid "cybernetic robot" named "ACTROID", a Japanese design that was unveiled in 2005.[http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-10744-Robot+or+Human%3F+Here%27s+ACTROID.html].
**The ACTROID's appearance in the final scene bookends the first scene of the mini-series in which several "traditional" robotic Cylons appear, following by the first appearance of the attractive humanoid Cylon, Number Six.
*Although many of the magazines on the newsstand appear familiar, close examination reveals that at least some have made-up names. A magazine that appears at first glance to be ''Sports Illustrated'' is actually ''Sports Limited''. Also, although the magazine read by Angel Six and Baltar (and Ronald Moore) closely resembles ''National Geographic'', at no time is the complete title of the magazine or its full logo actually shown on screen.

== Analysis ==

*The coordinates that Thrace enters, 1123 / 6536 / 5321 correspond to the notation of the Final Four theme [http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/theme-watchtower.jpg]. The song is in a C# Phrygian scale (enharmonic with A major and F# minor). 1 represents C#, and each higher integer indicates the next note in the scale, such that

:1 = C#
:2 = D
:3 = E
:(4 = F#)
:5 = G#
:6 = A
:(7 = B)

:The linked graphic omits the first and last note of the theme, but both can be heard in the soundtrack during the jump montage. The second "five" (in the third chunk of four digits) corresponds to the tuplet G#/A/G#, effectively omitting the trill up to high A. Every note has the same duration except for the last two, which are twice the length of the others.
*The Virtual Beings are angels of God who came to guide Baltar and Caprica Six in their destiny of protecting Hera.
*Kara Thrace is an angel who was sent back from the dead to guide humanity to a new home the coordinates of which were hidden in The Music.
*It is possible that some Baseships of Ones, Fours, and Fives were not at the [[Colony]] when it was destroyed, given the fact that they were observed jumping in and out of the system by Racetrack and Skulls. However, as noted in the "Notes" section it is unlikely that the Cavil, Simon and Doral lines will continue without Cylon females. The [[Three]]s are extinct with the last copy [[D'Anna Biers]] herself dying on the original Earth; Boomer was killed in the Colony (and in anycase couldn't single handedly save the lines even if she were alive); and the last Sixes and Eights staying with the humans on the second Earth. However, there is the possibility of having a few remaining human females from the survivors of the various Colonial worlds including [[Caprica]], if they still exist, being viable, so the lines could in theory continue. However, given the total lack of success in the forced breeding of Cylons and humans and the Cavil, Dorals and Simon's cynical view of love, an apparent requirement of conception between both Cylon-Cylon and Cylon-human combinations, with their hatred of humans it is unlikely. One final option could remain. The Final Five was able to download some of the Resurrection technology data to the Cavil Faction before Tyrol in his rage at Tory broke the connection. It is possible that the Cavil faction could extrapolate from the data they did get to recreate the technology, but only if it was transmitted to Baseships beyond the destroyed Colony. How long this could take or even if it is possible depends on how much and/or if the most critical and unique part of the technology was downloaded.
*On the second Earth Hera's mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and the male being say 60 to take an extreme. However, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and [[Boxey (RDM)|slightly older]] in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth, perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born-if any-very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself is an much more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is still harder than with human-human pairings. This would make any children pool of those pairings, while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, would still quite small number compared to pure human offspring frequency of birth. Therefore Hera's offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely of the three since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist. Throw in the possibility is Hera mating with the New Earth native tribal humans males then the likely hood of Hera having a child with a human is very likely.
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] appears as himself holding a ''National Geographic'' magazine in New York City.
*The shelters erected by the Colonials on Earth resemble [[Wikipedia:Quonset hut|Quonset huts]], World War II-era temporary structures.
*The final scenes of this episode, in fast-forwarding through time and attempting to set the entire work as a backstory, make the ending similar to that of the film [[Wikipedia:How the West Was Won (film)|How the West Was Won]].
* There are at least two distinct angels. They have known each other long and born witness to Kobol and the original Earth, as well as the Twelve Colonies and the new Earth. They can walk around and observe events even when no one else present can see them, though they may have the ability to appear to anyone they wish. In the final scene, a man walking by the Angel Six appears to check her out (though this may have been a simple acting goof).
* In another piece of irony, the two beings most directly responsible for the attack and destruction of the 12 Colonies, Gaius Baltar and Caprica Six, get to live on a lush green New Earth in love with each other.
* Even if humanity does repeat the cycle, Lee Adama's plan would seem to have had some success, because it will have taken much, much longer to do so this time around.
* Ellen says that hopefully the Hybrids will ''still'' respond to Anders' commands. In other words, they would recognize him from the time the Final Five ran the Colony.
* The Final Five can be considered ancestors of present-day humanity because they created Athena and the other Eights, Twos, and Sixes.
* The constellation [[w:Ursa Major|Ursa Major]] (commonly known as the "Big Dipper") appears briefly in this episode. It makes only the second appearance of a recognizable star pattern in the series, the first being Orion in "[[The Ties That Bind]]" (Orion is also visible in this episode).
* Adama's statement that New Earth is "one million light years" from Kobol must be taken as exaggeration or an error. The Milky Way is 100 000 light years across, and earlier statements in the show indicate that it considerable time to travel much shorter distances.
** It's possible that Adama's "million light years" comment is meant metaphorically instead of literally, in essence saying the Colonials have come an unthinkable distance to reach their new home.
*Cavil's suicide, in the way it is framed and executed, closely mirrors the televised 1987 suicide of American politician [[w:Budd Dwyer|Budd Dwyer]].
* Adama's drunken moment, where he sits against a wall, vomits, and then looks up at the night sky, echoes [[w:Oscar Wilde|Oscar Wilde]]'s famous aphorism: ''We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.''

== Questions ==
* What becomes of the Centurions?
** Do they go after the remnants of Cavil's forces, or go their separate ways?
** Will the freed Centurions eventually develop their own humanoid forms, or develop in a completely other direction?
** If there are descendants of the Centurions 150,000 years later, do they remember their history?
* Did any copies of Cavil, Doral, or Simon survive? (See Notes)
**It is likely that some did on other baseships, as well as the likelyhood of some on the old Colonial planets.
*The [[Final Five]] was able to download some of the Resurrection technology data to the Cavil Faction Cylons before [[Galen Tyrol]] in his rage over discovering [[Cally]]'s murder by [[Tory Foster]] broke the connection. Would the surviving Cavils, Dorals, and Simons be able to rebuild Resurrection technology from extrapolating from the data they did receive?
**Unlikely, as the only copies of this data would've been on board the Colony and in the minds of the final five. As Tory died and the Colony was destroyed, none of the remaining Cylons would have access to this information.
* Why does Cavil choose to commit suicide?
** [[RDM]] has stated <ref>http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html</ref> that the manner of Cavil's death was suggested by [[Dean Stockwell]]: "I just really think that in that moment, Cavil would realize the jig is up and it's all hopeless and just put a gun in his mouth and shoot himself."
* What becomes of the baseships seen orbiting the Colony?
** Since the Fleet's baseship with its liberated Centurion crew is seen departing for parts unknown, perhaps they united.
* Are any other human-Cylon hybrids born on Earth, or do the Leobens, Sixes, and Sharons remain childless?
* If "it" doesn't like to be called [[God (RDM)|God]], what does "it" like to be called?
** This is a possible reference to the numerous other names attributed to God by different religions.
* Will modern humans discover remains of Colonial technology such as Raptors?
** Adama and the others may have eventually destroyed the Raptors, or perhaps programed them to leave Earth's orbit towards the Sun on autopilot to prevent any chance of Colonial Technology being discovered by their descendants.
* Why do the angels still look like Baltar and Six 150,000 years later?
** It is possible that the Number Six line was based upon the appearance of the being that presented itself to Galen Tyrol and the others prior to the nuclear destruction of the first Earth, as the five modeled the new eight after people they knew, Cavil was Ellen's father etc. That said, the Angel Six may actually appear as such.
* Will humanity repeat the Cycle?
* Are Thrace and Anders together after Thrace's disappearance?
* Can Thrace ever return again?
* Do Baltar and Caprica-Six marry? Do they go into isolation like Adama and Tyrol, or will they be near a human colony?
* Since Caprica Six and Gaius Baltar genuinely love each other, do they eventually have a child?
* Were Caprica Six and Baltar "supposed" to bring about the destruction of the Twelve Colonies?
* Do Adama and Tyrol stay isolated for the rest of their lives?
* Why was Romo Lampkin chosen as President? Wouldn't a member of the Quorum of Captains have been selected?
** They likely needed a "neutral" party and had no time to hold an election. Also, a bond of trust had been established between Lee Adama and Romo in previous episodes.
* What became of the remaining prisoners aboard the <i>[[Astral Queen]]</i>? Were they sent out amongst the rest of the human/cylon population, or were all of them deposited in some geographical area completely isolated from the other humans and cylons?
* Were any of the groups provided with medicine, or medical training or at least someone with someone with a strong background in medicine before spreading out among the world?
* Is God related to the Lords of Kobol or something completely different?
* Why did the First Hybrid not want humanity to follow Thrace?
** It appears that there was a faction of Cylons who did not accept the Final Five's offer to have humanoid models built for them, so it stands to reason they were the most "pure" Cylons following their own path and would not want to share human DNA.
** It is also possible that "they must not follow her" refers to Kara's fatal journey to Earth between [[Maelstrom]] and [[Crossroads, Part II]] to a potential disaster which could have happened if Adama chose to follow Kara's directions with the entire fleet in [[Six of One]] rather than sending her on the [[Demetrius]].
* How many angels are there? Are the ones that resemble Six and Baltar the same as those that appeared to the Final Five and Thrace, or distinct?
* Why have angels not been appearing to the Final Five since Old Earth's destruction, only to Baltar, Six, and Thrace?
* Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?
* Will analysis of Hera's remains reveal that she was not a normal human? (See Notes)
** No because what we deem a modern human is in fact a mixture of Colonial human and Humanoid Cylon.
* Is the evolution of humans on two planets due to the same divine hand that's been guiding other events?
* Does human life evolve on planets other than Kobol and the new Earth?
* Who did Hera eventually have children with? A human or a Cylon? (See Analysis)
* Was it coincidence or divine intervention that an asteroid caused Racetrack's hand to hit the launch button for the nuclear weapons at the exact right moment?
* Why was ''Galactica'' able to jump without retracting its [[flight pods]] when escaping from the Colony? Did this cause ''Galactica'' to break its backbone?
* Will modern humanity venture out into space and discover places such as Kobol, the original Earth, the Twelve Colonies, and New Caprica?
* How close are the two Earths? The [[Tomb of Athena]] starmap showed constellations known on the second Earth, but was supposed to have been the sky as seen from the first. Does this mean they are very close indeed?
**New Earth is apparently 1 million light years from Kobol, and old Earth had to be within 2000 light years of Kobol and the 12 Colonies, based on the Final Five not having jump drives and having to travel at sub-light relativistic speeds. That means old Earth has to be nearly 1 million light years from new Earth. If this is the case, how do the constellations line up?
*** Possibly gross exaggeration (similar to "a million miles from home") of the distances involved in their travels, when considering the lengths of time it took for the fleet to initially reach Kobol, even with the hundreds of jumps that occurred during 33; and then the further time to reach the first Earth 2000 light years away. The diameter of the Milky Way galaxy is 100.000 lightyears and the fleet never leaves this galaxy.
* Why was Starbuck not aware of her true nature until after her role had been fulfilled?
* In what part of Earth (a northerly island with "highlands") did Galen Tyrol settle? Scotland?
** Scotland, according an interview with RDM <ref>http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html</ref>
* What is the nature of Starbuck's journey to the First Earth, crash, and return in the unscathed Viper? How did she "jump" to its coordinates? If her return was engineered by God to use her as an angel and bring humanity to Earth, why do so in a way that raised more questions about how it occurred than it answered?
* In what way, if any, did Starbuck fulfill her [[The Destiny|destiny]] as the "harbinger of death" that would lead humanity to its "end"?
** The pure Human and pure Cylon races both came to an end due to Starbuck's part in bringing them together. Furthermore, she helped bring about the apparent death of the Cycle.
*** It could be argued that she fulfilled her destiny in <i>modern humanity</i>came to an end when they the humans removed all technology from their existence and chose to live a primitive existence with both the Cylons and the tribesman they discovered on Earth.
* How did the proto-Greek polytheistic religion of the Colonies survive nearly 150,000 years before being revived in garbled form with the rise of Greek civilization? Did it die out in practice but return through the universal subconscious?
* In what way, if any, did the Cylons' monotheistic religion and the Colonies' polytheistic religion intertwine? Did they coexist peacefully, or were there conflicts? Do modern monotheistic religions trace their traditions ultimately to those of the Cylons and the [[Cult of Baltar]]?
* During the lie detector test in the flashback scene of William Adama's attempt to secure a civilian job, why did the interrogator ask him if he was a Cylon? At that point in history, it was unknown that the Cylons had humanoid appearance.
**The question was likely a control question to establish how a truthful response to an absurd question would register.
* Even after committing the fleet to destruction, there are still serviceable Raptors on the surface of Earth, which are jump-capable. Would any of the surviving humans or Cylons come to regret having settled on a primitive world without technology and decide to return to the stars in search of resources or other habitable planets? Is there any [[tylium]] available on Earth?
* Assuming that (as Tigh indicated to Adama in [[Revelations]]) the Final Five Cylons age but the rest do not, what will become of Caprica-Six, Athena, and any other survivors of the non-Final Five models? How will Helo and Baltar cope with the non-aging of their spouses as they themselves age?
**As the humanoid Cylons are biological by nature, they will age at some rate. Considering that they are nearly identical biologically to humans, they likely age at a similar rate. It is likely that they might have previously prevented the appearance of aging due to frequent resurrection. Since that is no longer an option, they would age and die like the humans do.
** What Saul and Bill discuss is not necessarily fact; they don't know everything about the Cylons and characters are often seen speculating throughout the show in ways that have turned out to be false. For eg. in Season 1, some were scared people had been "replaced" by Cylons, which never happens.
** Ellen said John Cavil was once a boy, but this is not necessarily literal.
***It is not. The [[Significant Eight]] were never physically children. Ellen was referring to their emotional level of maturity when they first emerged.
* Did the old-style [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] on the Colony fight for Cavil because they had [[telencephalic inhibitor]]s, or of their own free will? If the latter, why?
**If the old-style Cylons are still the Cylons that participated in the first Cylon war, they likely still do hold a grudge against humanity for enslaving them. Consider that Cavil has claimed in the past to want "justice" for what was done to his Centurion ancestors([[No Exit]]), and that the rebel Cylons are responsible for what could be taken as a genocide against the Cylons ([[The Hub]]), it's entirely possible that these old-style Centurions would hold a grudge against humanity and as such fight against them in an invasion of their home.
**Considering these old Centurions were sentient before Cavil was created it's highly unlikely Cavil was able to equip them with telecephalic inhibitors. These Centurions were probably treated as equals by the humanoid Cylons and were allowed to live with them on the Colony until they broke down.
***That may not be so, as the humanoid Cylons supposedly scrapped most of the old Centurions. The ones at the Colony may have been reprogrammed or been created after the First Cylon War with no free will.
* Is the Adama family the origin of the name Adam for the mythical first man?
* Has any of modern Humanity inherited Hera's ability to project?
* Was there anyone like Kara Thrace in previous iterations of the cycle?
* Does the cult continue under Paulla's leadership?
* How will Lee explain Kara's sudden disappearance to those at his settlement?
** People will probably just assume she was killed in the battle or that she went into isolation like Adama and Tyrol.
* Why was Doral convinced that the Final Five and the humans were trying to deceive the Cylons? The download was disrupted by Tyrol alone, not the other four Cylons. For that matter, when Tyrol attacked Foster, why didn't anyone try to separate them?
* When the Final Five interfaced with each other during the download, did any of them regain their memories of events during their journey to The Twelve Colonies?

== Official Statements ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
*''Virtual Baltar says the last line of the series as he walks down a street of modern day New York City with Virtual Six:''
:'''Virtual Baltar''': "Silly Me.....silly, silly me".

*''The Galactica is about to jump to The Colony and into harms way:''
:'''Admiral Adama''': Just so there'll be no misunderstandings later... ''Galactica'' has seen a lot of history, gone through a lot of battles. This ''will'' be her last. She will not fail us if we do not fail her. If we succeed in our mission, ''Galactica'' will bring us home. If we don't... it doesn’t matter anyway.

*''The Final Five are discussing things among themselves about to download the specifications of Resurrection technology. Cavil is impatient''
:'''Cavil''':"Not to rush you or anything, but you are keeping two entire civilizations waiting!

*''Cavil's last word before he commits suicide.''
:'''Cavil''': Frak!

*''Nuclear missiles has knocked the Colony falling into the Singularity and is dragging Galactica with it and Starbuck is frantically attempting to figure out the jump coordinates.''
:'''Starbuck''': There must be some kind of way out of here.

*''Virtual Six and Virtual Baltar speculating if the cycle will continue.''
:'''Virtual Baltar''': All of this has happened before...
:'''Virtual Six''': But does it all have to happen again?

*''Sam Anders, essentially Galactica's Hybrid, says his last words to Kara Thrace after she leaves his side.''
:'''Samuel Anders''': See you on the other side

*''Baltar to Caprica Six on New Earth in unspoken reference about his father''
:'''Baltar''': "You know, I know about farming." (sobs)

*''Laura Roslin is speaking to Dr. Cottle about the state of her health which both know it is grave with only a few days to live. Also, she is about to essentially go into battle to retrieve Hera and the Doctor appears to be on the verge of choking up:''
:'''Laura Roslin''': Don't spoil your image, just light a cigarette and go and grumble."

*''Former Admiral of the Fleet William Adama is showing Laura their new home on New Earth in a Raptor. She sees a heard of grezlles stampeding at the sight of the Raptor over the lush and rich landscape and says her last words:''
:'''Roslin''': So much life...

*''William Adama is sitting on a high ridge overlooking what would later be called the African Savannah in spectacular view. Laura Roslin's grave is behind him close by and he talks to her spirit. It is his last statement in the series:''
:'''William Adama''': I laid out the cabin. It's gonna have an easternly view. You should see the light we get here. When the sun comes from behind the mountains, it's almost heavenly. Reminds me of you."

*''Boomer has just given over Hera to Athena, saving her life from Cavil and Simon dissection-and both redeeming herself and condemning herself to death''
:'''Boomer''' (to Athena): Tell the old man, I owed him one.
:'''Athena''' (angrily) Doesn't change anything you did though!
:'''Boomer''' (shakes her head slightly): No. We all make our choices. Today I made a choice. I think its my last one.
:'''Starbuck''': All right this is really touching. Now can we get the frak out of here!?!
:'''Boomer''' (to Starbuck): You should know that your Raptor been destroyed. You can't go back that way.
:(Athena passes Hera to Helo)
:'''Athena''': Yeah well, that is not the plan.
:'''Starbuck''' (sardonically): Can we ''not'' tell her the plan?
:'''Athena''': Right.
:''(Athena and Boomer look each other in the eye for a moment. She raises her weapon. Boomer makes no move to escape, but stands strait head up, accepting if not welcoming her fate. Athena fires. Boomer is dead before she hits the deck.)''

== Guest Stars ==
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]]
* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Number Four]]
* [[Mark Sheppard]] as [[Romo Lampkin]]
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[Sherman Cottle]]
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Kerry Norton]] as [[Layne Ishay]]
* [[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Number One]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brenden "Hotdog" Costanza]]
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]
* [[Colin Lawrence]] as Ensign [[Hamish McCall|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]]
* [[Lara Gilchrist]] as [[Paulla Schaffer]]
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Marine [[Allan Nowart]]
* [[Leela Savasta]] as [[Tracey Anne]]
* [[Darcy Laurie]] as [[Dealino]]
* [[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] as [[Hera Agathon]]
* [[Tobias Mehler]] as [[Zak Adama]]
* [[Simone Bailly]] as [[Shona]]
* [[Kevin McNulty]] as [[Frank Porthos]]
* [[Richard Jollymore]] as Marine #1
* [[Anthony St. John]] as Marine #2
* [[Dan Payne]] as [[Sean Allison]]
* [[Holly Eglinton]] as Stripper
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]] (uncredited)
* [[Ronald D. Moore]] as Man at news stand (uncredited)

== References ==

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Battle of the Colony

2009-03-24T02:53:12Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Aftermath */ more about what we don't know

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{{Battle Data
| image=
| description=
| conflict= Second Human-Cylon War<br/>Cylon Civil War
| date= Approximately [[Timeline (RDM)|4 years]] after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]
| place=[[The Colony]]
| result=Colonial/Rebel Cylon Victory<br/>The Colony destroyed<br/>[[Hera Agathon]] rescued<br/>Enemy Cylons destroyed<br/>End of Human-Cylon War as well as Cylon Civil War
| combatant1= Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet]]<br/>Rebel Cylon faction
| combatant2= Cylon loyalist faction
| co1= Admiral [[William Adama]]
| co2= [[Number One|John Cavil]]
| strength1= Battlestar [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']], associated Vipers and Raptors<br/>Rebel Centurions
| strength2= The Colony<br/>associated Raiders<br/>[[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Cylon War era Centurions]] and [[Cylon Centurion|current era Centurions]]
| shiploss1= Heavy damage to ''Galactica''<br/>4 Vipers destroyed<br/>7 Raptors destroyed
| shiploss2= The Colony destroyed<br/>Total Raider losses
| casualties1= Heavy including [[Racetrack]], [[Skulls]]
| casualties2= Complete destruction of Cylon loyalist faction
| prev= [[Gaeta's Mutiny]]
| next= None (''Series finale'')
| series= RDM
}}
The '''Battle of The Colony''' is the final engagement between the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol|humans]] of ''[[Galactica]]'' and [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] as well as the final battle of the [[Cylon Civil War]].

The Colonials begin a rescue mission, the most dangerous and daring offensive ever undertaken by Admiral [[William Adama]] and a skeleton crew, to rescue [[Hera Agathon]], kidnapped by [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] and taken to [[the Colony]] for experimentation ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

The battle comprises of people, both rebel Cylon and human, who volunteer to stay aboard ''Galactica''. There are only perhaps several hundred human or humanoid fighters, but fortunately the Cylons also add a few hundred [[Cylon Centurion]]s to the attack and defense forces.

Racetrack and Skulls are sent on a reconnaissance mission in a [[Raptor]]. They find the Colony in orbit of a black hole and also find the only place that a ship can jump in and out safely: within a kilometer of The Colony: point-blank range for The Colony's weapons.

Admiral Adama turns over command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to [[Hoshi]] while [[Romo Lampkin]] is made the new President of the Colonies (as [[Lee Adama]] chooses to stay on ''Galactica'' to fight).

==Battle==
''Galactica'' jumps in directly in front of the Colony, which opens fire with its gun batteries as it's too close for missiles or nukes for both sides. ''Galactica'' takes a pounding until [[Samuel Anders]] (now effectively ''Galactica's'' [[Hybrid]]) manages to hack into the Colony and shut down its Hybrids and their weapon control.

''Galactica'' immediately launches her [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] to engage the Colony's Raiders while the battlestar's Raptors jump directly from the starboard [[flight pod]] in a flanking position to board the Colony. The Raptor's jumps rip open the side of the flight pod, but safely arrive at the battle.

As ''Galactica's'' gun batteries fire at the Colony's gun batteries and Raiders, Admiral Adama orders flank speed on ''Galactica'', ramming the battlestar's dense "alligator-head" bow into the Colony. The collision punchs a hole in the Colony's side, ''Galactica's'' bow effectively docked in the enemy ship. From ''Galactica's'' bow enters allows a strike force made out of marines and Rebel Centurions. Raptor strike forces led by [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], [[Helo]] and [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] cuts their way in elsewhere on the Colony's hull.

The fight is not without serious losses. Racetrack and Skulls arm their nukes aboard their Raptor but are killed when an asteroid hits their ship, punching a hole in the window and smashing their helmets.

Inside the Colony, both strike forces push onwards despite opposition from not only modern Centurions but older [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Model 0005 Centurions]].

[[Kara Thrace]]'s forces discover Boomer, who has retrieved Hera out of sympathy and because she feels she owes Adama a favor. She hands the child over to the rescue team without a fight, warning the team that their Raptors have been destroyed and cannot be used for escape. Fortunately, the battle plan was to abandon the Raptors and return to ''Galactica'' through her bow.

After Sharon Agathon kills Sharon Valerii, Thrace's team meets up with [[Lee Adama]] and his team. All retreat to ''Galactica's'' airlock to escape the Colony.

Cavil, [[Simon]] and a [[Number Five]] go on the offensive, leading a platoon of Centurions in a boarding attack on ''Galactica''. Firefights break out all over the ship, with both sides suffering heavy casualties. [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica Six]] are among the many that help defend the ship from the boarders.

Karl Agathon is wounded by a Five. Hera runs away in the chaos. Her mother goes after her at her husband's insistence. [[Laura Roslin]], working in [[sickbay]], senses Hera's return and chases after her as well in what becomes a parallel of the [[Opera House Prophecy]], each person in turn part of a vision that protects the child from harm as she wanders through decks filled with gunfire and enemy forces. Caprica Six and Baltar eventually find Hera and take her with them to [[CIC]], recreating their movement as seen in their visions, encountering the [[Final Five]] there, standing on the CIC balcony.

Cavil is captured in CIC. During an explosion, Cavil takes Hera hostage and plans to leave with her as he sees her as the only hope for his kind. Baltar successfully talks Cavil into a truce in exchange for Hera's life. [[Saul Tigh]] sweetens the pot by offering resurrection in exchange for the permanent true between humanity and Cylone. Cavil calls off his forces and the battle seems to end.

==Broken Truce==
However, the truce is short-lived. Shortly after the Final Five begin downloading their knowledge of resurrection to the enemy forces, [[Galen Tyrol]] breaks the download and kills [[Tory Foster]] when he learns that she is responsible for the [[The Ties That Bind|murder of Cally Tyrol]]. Believing themselves betrayed, the Cylons restart their attack, but after the Doral and Simon that joined him in CIC are killed, Cavil swears and kills himself. The Raiders resume attacking ''Galactica''.

In space, another asteroid strikes Racetrack's Raptor and causes her dead hand to accidentally hit the launch button for her nuclear missiles. All the missiles hit the Colony, badly damaging it and knocking it out of its orbit towards the black hole nearby--and pulling ''Galactica'' with it.

Admiral Adama orders Thrace to jump the ship--[[blind jump|anywhere]]. Without the coordinates to the Fleet's location, she realizes that [[The Music|the mysterious music played by her father]] forms FTL coordinates. She enters the coordinates and ''Galactica'' escapes as the Colony is sucked into the black hole and destroyed.

==Aftermath==
The toll of battle and her structural frailty are too much for the old battlestar. As she completes the jump, ''Galactica'' suffers a series of critical structural failures, breaking her backbone and permanently losing her FTL ability.

But Thrace's coordinates take ''Galactica'' to a habitable planet, lush and filled with life. They name this planet [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] and, after retrieving the other Colonials at the rendezvous coordinates, the population of the Fleet is able to settle without concern.

The Rebel Cylons settle down with them and give the [[Rebel Basestar]] to their Centurions to find freedom and their own destiny.

The Hybrid Samuel Anders is instructed to autopilot ''Galactica'' and the last of her charge into the Sun, destroying the ships and allowing humanity and the Rebel Cylons a fresh start, sans technology.

It is not known whether the Cylons on the Colony were able to transmit any data or if any of them were able to escape before it fell into the black hole. The fate of the loyalist Cylons who were not on the Colony is likewise unclear, however, with both reproduction and the recovery of resurrection technology unlikely, their extinction is a foregone conclusion.

{{Battles (RDM)}}

Battle of the Colony

2009-03-24T02:39:54Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Aftermath */

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{{Battle Data
| image=
| description=
| conflict= Second Human-Cylon War<br/>Cylon Civil War
| date= Approximately [[Timeline (RDM)|4 years]] after the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]
| place=[[The Colony]]
| result=Colonial/Rebel Cylon Victory<br/>The Colony destroyed<br/>[[Hera Agathon]] rescued<br/>Enemy Cylons destroyed<br/>End of Human-Cylon War as well as Cylon Civil War
| combatant1= Remnants of the [[Colonial Fleet]]<br/>Rebel Cylon faction
| combatant2= Cylon loyalist faction
| co1= Admiral [[William Adama]]
| co2= [[Number One|John Cavil]]
| strength1= Battlestar [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']], associated Vipers and Raptors<br/>Rebel Centurions
| strength2= The Colony<br/>associated Raiders<br/>[[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Cylon War era Centurions]] and [[Cylon Centurion|current era Centurions]]
| shiploss1= Heavy damage to ''Galactica''<br/>4 Vipers destroyed<br/>7 Raptors destroyed
| shiploss2= The Colony destroyed<br/>Total Raider losses
| casualties1= Heavy including [[Racetrack]], [[Skulls]]
| casualties2= Complete destruction of Cylon loyalist faction
| prev= [[Gaeta's Mutiny]]
| next= None (''Series finale'')
| series= RDM
}}
The '''Battle of The Colony''' is the final engagement between the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol|humans]] of ''[[Galactica]]'' and [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] as well as the final battle of the [[Cylon Civil War]].

The Colonials begin a rescue mission, the most dangerous and daring offensive ever undertaken by Admiral [[William Adama]] and a skeleton crew, to rescue [[Hera Agathon]], kidnapped by [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] and taken to [[the Colony]] for experimentation ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

The battle comprises of people, both rebel Cylon and human, who volunteer to stay aboard ''Galactica''. There are only perhaps several hundred human or humanoid fighters, but fortunately the Cylons also add a few hundred [[Cylon Centurion]]s to the attack and defense forces.

Racetrack and Skulls are sent on a reconnaissance mission in a [[Raptor]]. They find the Colony in orbit of a black hole and also find the only place that a ship can jump in and out safely: within a kilometer of The Colony: point-blank range for The Colony's weapons.

Admiral Adama turns over command of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] to [[Hoshi]] while [[Romo Lampkin]] is made the new President of the Colonies (as [[Lee Adama]] chooses to stay on ''Galactica'' to fight).

==Battle==
''Galactica'' jumps in directly in front of the Colony, which opens fire with its gun batteries as it's too close for missiles or nukes for both sides. ''Galactica'' takes a pounding until [[Samuel Anders]] (now effectively ''Galactica's'' [[Hybrid]]) manages to hack into the Colony and shut down its Hybrids and their weapon control.

''Galactica'' immediately launches her [[Viper (RDM)|Vipers]] to engage the Colony's Raiders while the battlestar's Raptors jump directly from the starboard [[flight pod]] in a flanking position to board the Colony. The Raptor's jumps rip open the side of the flight pod, but safely arrive at the battle.

As ''Galactica's'' gun batteries fire at the Colony's gun batteries and Raiders, Admiral Adama orders flank speed on ''Galactica'', ramming the battlestar's dense "alligator-head" bow into the Colony. The collision punchs a hole in the Colony's side, ''Galactica's'' bow effectively docked in the enemy ship. From ''Galactica's'' bow enters allows a strike force made out of marines and Rebel Centurions. Raptor strike forces led by [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], [[Helo]] and [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] cuts their way in elsewhere on the Colony's hull.

The fight is not without serious losses. Racetrack and Skulls arm their nukes aboard their Raptor but are killed when an asteroid hits their ship, punching a hole in the window and smashing their helmets.

Inside the Colony, both strike forces push onwards despite opposition from not only modern Centurions but older [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Model 0005 Centurions]].

[[Kara Thrace]]'s forces discover Boomer, who has retrieved Hera out of sympathy and because she feels she owes Adama a favor. She hands the child over to the rescue team without a fight, warning the team that their Raptors have been destroyed and cannot be used for escape. Fortunately, the battle plan was to abandon the Raptors and return to ''Galactica'' through her bow.

After Sharon Agathon kills Sharon Valerii, Thrace's team meets up with [[Lee Adama]] and his team. All retreat to ''Galactica's'' airlock to escape the Colony.

Cavil, [[Simon]] and a [[Number Five]] go on the offensive, leading a platoon of Centurions in a boarding attack on ''Galactica''. Firefights break out all over the ship, with both sides suffering heavy casualties. [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica Six]] are among the many that help defend the ship from the boarders.

Karl Agathon is wounded by a Five. Hera runs away in the chaos. Her mother goes after her at her husband's insistence. [[Laura Roslin]], working in [[sickbay]], senses Hera's return and chases after her as well in what becomes a parallel of the [[Opera House Prophecy]], each person in turn part of a vision that protects the child from harm as she wanders through decks filled with gunfire and enemy forces. Caprica Six and Baltar eventually find Hera and take her with them to [[CIC]], recreating their movement as seen in their visions, encountering the [[Final Five]] there, standing on the CIC balcony.

Cavil is captured in CIC. During an explosion, Cavil takes Hera hostage and plans to leave with her as he sees her as the only hope for his kind. Baltar successfully talks Cavil into a truce in exchange for Hera's life. [[Saul Tigh]] sweetens the pot by offering resurrection in exchange for the permanent true between humanity and Cylone. Cavil calls off his forces and the battle seems to end.

==Broken Truce==
However, the truce is short-lived. Shortly after the Final Five begin downloading their knowledge of resurrection to the enemy forces, [[Galen Tyrol]] breaks the download and kills [[Tory Foster]] when he learns that she is responsible for the [[The Ties That Bind|murder of Cally Tyrol]]. Believing themselves betrayed, the Cylons restart their attack, but after the Doral and Simon that joined him in CIC are killed, Cavil swears and kills himself. The Raiders resume attacking ''Galactica''.

In space, another asteroid strikes Racetrack's Raptor and causes her dead hand to accidentally hit the launch button for her nuclear missiles. All the missiles hit the Colony, badly damaging it and knocking it out of its orbit towards the black hole nearby--and pulling ''Galactica'' with it.

Admiral Adama orders Thrace to jump the ship--[[blind jump|anywhere]]. Without the coordinates to the Fleet's location, she realizes that [[The Music|the mysterious music played by her father]] forms FTL coordinates. She enters the coordinates and ''Galactica'' escapes as the Colony is sucked into the black hole and destroyed.

==Aftermath==
The toll of battle and her structural frailty are too much for the old battlestar. As she completes the jump, ''Galactica'' suffers a series of critical structural failures, breaking her backbone and permanently losing her FTL ability.

But Thrace's coordinates take ''Galactica'' to a habitable planet, lush and filled with life. They name this planet [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] and, after retrieving the other Colonials at the rendezvous coordinates, the population of the Fleet is able to settle without concern.

The Rebel Cylons settle down with them and give the [[Rebel Basestar]] to their Centurions to find freedom and their own destiny.

The Hybrid Samuel Anders is instructed to autopilot ''Galactica'' and the last of her charge into the Sun, destroying the ships and allowing humanity and the Rebel Cylons a fresh start, sans technology.

It is not known whether the Cylons on the Colony were able to transmit any data or if any of them were able to escape before it fell into the black hole. The fate of those Cylons in Cavil's faction who were not on the Colony is likewise unclear.

{{Battles (RDM)}}

Number Five

2009-03-24T02:31:43Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Other Copies */ it was never stated that all the Ones, Fours and Fives went to the Colony

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"'''Number Five'''", known to the humans as '''Aaron Doral''', appears to be a man in his mid-thirties. He is initially encountered aboard ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', where he is operating as a public relations executive. Later he is active both within the fleeing Colonial fleet and on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]. He seems designed to network, almost to the point of being the sleazy used-car salesman type, but with a sadistic, violent side.

But Doral is a [[humanoid Cylon]] in reality. The Doral model's purpose is to attempt to sow the seeds of discontent or confusion, particularly during crucial life-threatening situations. Doral models endeavor to undermine authority that threatens his objectives. Doral models are more covert than the dazzling [[Number Six|Sixes]], assuming an ordinary "everyman" appearance blended in what may seem to be insignificant behind-the-scenes issues (such as converting ''Galactica'' into a museum). Fives are among the most militant, fanatic and consistent to the Cylon objectives (only the [[Number Three|Three]]s match them), whether they are dispassionately discussing the fate of humanity with his comrades or attempting to kill or maim the Colonials in a suicide bomb attack ([[Litmus]]).

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== PR Executive Copy ==

Doral appears to be exactly what he claims when first seen in the [[Miniseries]]: a PR executive. He coordinates the ceremony surrounding ''Galactica'''s decommissioning and transfer to the civilian authorities represented by Secretary of Education [[Laura Roslin]]. During the lead-up to the ceremony, he mocks ''Galactica'' as antiquated and advocates automated defense systems (which would be more vulnerable to Cylon interference).

In the role of PR executive, Doral is efficient, polite and able to carry out his work without ruffling the feathers of those around him, while at the same time marshaling and managing the media. He usually wears an emerald suit and tie.

When Laura Roslin, as senior government official, takes charge of ''[[Colonial Heavy 798]]'' during the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|Cylon attack]], Doral immediately objects to her leadership immediately after her announcement to the passengers of the nuclear attacks on the various colonies ("Wait a minute...who put you in charge?"). Later, Doral tries to convince [[Lee Adama]] to assume the leadership role from Roslin. Captain Adama witnesses and supports Roslin and her leadership decisions, which quickly puts Doral in his place.

Following Gaius Baltar's arrival on ''Galactica'', Doral becomes the fall-guy Baltar needs to divert any suspicions he feels may otherwise be directed at him following the Cylon incursion into the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]]. In this, he is partially steered by [[Number Six]] - although the selection of Doral as his fall-guy appears to be Baltar's own choice by educated guess.

Arrested and thrown into the brig, Doral loudly proclaims his innocence of all charges, citing his background and upbringing: that he was born in [[Oasis]], a hamlet near [[Caprica City]], and grew up on the south side of Caprica City itself before going to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Gemenon|Gemenon]], where he studied public relations at the Kobol Colleges.

Later, after being left at the [[Ragnar Anchorage]] space station, Doral exhibits all of the symptoms initially shown by the humanoid Cylon [[Leoben Conoy]], confirming the fact that he is a Cylon and that, however "coincidentally," Baltar selected the "right" man.

Despite his protestations of innocence, and the palpable level of fear he demonstrates within the brig, it is unlikely (based on later characterizations of humanoid Cylons who infiltrate the Fleet) that this Doral copy is a "sleeper" Cylon. Unlike [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], this Doral knew of his true nature. He is rescued and debriefed by a group of his fellow humanoid Cylons, including another Number Five ([[Miniseries]]).

== Suicide Bomber Copy ==
[[Image:Litmus_Doral.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Aaron Doral in his suicide bomber role aboard ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''.]]
A copy of Doral also turns up on ''Galactica'' as a suicide bomber, using explosives he steals from a small-arms locker to create a primitive bomb he detonates in a corridor of the ship after being challenged by [[William Adama]].

At the time of the explosion, [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] suggests that Doral's intended target was [[Gaius Baltar]]. There is little direct evidence to back-up Starbuck's claim. Sergeant [[Hadrian]]'s investigation into the matter establishes that the small arms locker used by Doral is located relatively close to the flight pod (where Doral would have come aboard). Therefore, the fact that the locker and Baltar's lab resided on the same deck may have been coincidental.

Doral appears to spend some time wandering through the ship before detonating his bomb, which suggests he may have been looking for a target of opportunity, such as a command staff member or sensitive area such as [[CIC]] ([[Litmus]]).

== Caprican Overseer Copy ==
[[Image:CyDorFiv.jpg|thumb|Five in his overseer role.]]
On Caprica, Number Five performs the role of a Cylon overseer, working with Number Six to ensure their experiment involving the stranded [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Sharon Agathon|Caprica copy of Sharon Valerii]] either reaches its desired conclusion, or is suitably terminated ("[[Bastille Day]]", "[[Litmus]]", "[[Flesh and Bone]]", "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]"). He wears a red suit, more utilitarian than that of his PR executive counterpart.

In this, Five shows a harder attitude towards humans than Six. When she expresses regret that the destruction of humanity was necessary in order for the Cylons to achieve their ends, he is not so forgiving:

:'''Six''': "This all makes me so sad."
:'''Five''': (matter-of-fact) "They would have destroyed themselves anyway. They deserve what they got."
:'''Six''': "We're the children of humanity. That makes them our parents in a sense."
:'''Five''': "True - but parents have to die. It's the only way children come into their own."
::-- ''[[Bastille Day]]''

Later, however, when Six is disdainful of Valerii's apparent feelings for Agathon when the Caprican experiment goes awry, Five is more sympathetic, wondering what it must be like to be driven by passion that marks Agathon's action: "Even in his anguish he seemed....so alive" ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).

==Other Copies==

In "[[Final Cut]]", a Number Five is one of the Cylons that watches [[D'Anna Biers]]'s broadcast. He comments that the life of Sharon and Helo's [[Hera Agathon|hybrid child]] must be protected at all costs.

Several copies of Number Five are seen on Cylon-occupied Caprica throughout "[[Downloaded]]", the episode that reveals that he is the fifth in the sequence of twelve Cylon models. A Five is one of the four 'rebirth nurses' that welcome first [[Caprica-Six]] and (much) later [[Sharon Valerii|''Galactica''-Sharon]], the "[[Heroes of the Cylon]]" back to life after their respective downloads into new bodies. He tells Boomer that the Cylons are proud of her. Another copy is serving coffee at the cafe which is bombed by [[Samuel Anders]]'s resistance group, while yet another rescues "Caprica" and Sharon from the ruins of a garage later the same day.

A Five is part of the leading group during the invasion of [[New Caprica]], along with the aforementioned "Heroes of the Cylon". Fitting his personality archetype, this Five is quite direct in his insistence that the Colonials surrender without resistance to the Cylon armada ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).

The humanoid Cylon leading the force of Centurions outside the temple on New Caprica is not seen, but is identifiable as a Five by his voice ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance#Episode 4|The Resistance: Episode 4]]).

A Five is found and recovered from the infected basestar by ''Galactica'', intending to be a part of the plan to infect the entire Cylon race with a [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|virus]] spawned from an ancient [[Lion's Head beacon|probe]]. However, just before they are within download range of a [[Resurrection Ship]], he and the other prisoners are killed by [[Karl Agathon]], thus killing the Cylons permanently ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).

The Fives side with the Ones and the Fours in the decision to lobotomize the [[Raider (RDM)|Raiders]] after they defied the humanoid Cylons' wishes at the [[Ionian Nebula]]. Two of them are shot in the conference room by Centurions whose [[telencephalic inhibitor]]s have been removed by [[Natalie]]'s faction ([[Six of One]]).

Several Fives are present to prevent the rescue of [[Hera]], and attack the Colonials. One sneaks up behind a couple of Marines that include [[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Helo|her husband]], shooting and wounding him. Another is seen in the CIC with Cavil during the [[Daybreak, Part II|finale's]] climax. Both are killed in a firefight that erupts after a truce brokered by [[Gaius Baltar]] and the [[Final Five]] collapses. All Fives aboard the Colony perish when it is consumed by the black hole it is orbiting. ([[Daybreak, Part II]])

==Notes==
*[[W:Doral, Florida|Doral]] is the name of a recently formed city in [[W:Miami-Dade County, Florida|Miami-Dade County, Florida]]. It was formerly a census-designated place, named for a golf and resort spa within its boundaries. The resort was orignally named for its builders '''Dor'''is and '''Al'''fred Kaskel. Doral is also the name of a popular cigarette brand.

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Number One

2009-03-24T01:16:08Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Faction Leader Copy */ what about the basestars?

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"'''Number One'''" is the first of eight [[humanoid Cylon]] models created by the [[Final Five]] for the [[Cylon Centurion| Centurions]] following the [[Cylon War|first Cylon war]]. The Final Five referred to him as John, and he was created in the image of [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen Tigh's]] biological father.

One of the Number Ones, prior to being discovered among the Fleet, posed as '''[[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Clergy|Brother Cavil]]''', a member of the Colonial clergy. However, contrary to his assumed role, he did not share the other Cylons' [[Cylon Religion|religious beliefs]] and frequently mocked them.

== "John" and the Final Five ==

After the [[Final Five]] contacted the Centurions, they agreed to create humanoid Cylons and share resurrection technology with them in exchange for an end to the [[Cylon War]]. The first humanoid Cylon created by the Final Five was "John", named after and created in the likeness of [[Ellen Tigh]]'s biological father. He was "treasured" by the Five, and even assisted them in the creation of the other seven models.

John grew intensely jealous of [[Daniel]], the seventh model, because Daniel was emotionally favored by Ellen. John sabotaged the Sevens' genetic code and amniotic fluid, wiping out the entire line permanently. He later trapped the Final Five in a room, suffocated them, and [[boxing|boxed]] them before they could be resurrected fully. Sometime after, he obscured their original memories, gave them false ones, and planted each of them "like a [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]" among the humans in an effort to teach them a lesson about their foolish appreciation for humans. As well, he corrupted the memories of his six surviving "sibling" models to remove from them the knowledge of the Final Five's identities and programmed them not to think about the matter, though they still knew that another five models were extant. John was extremely contemptuous of many of the human traits the Five gave him. He eliminated his need for sleep and dreaming by rewriting his own software.

==''Galactica'' Copy==

On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', the first viewed copy of Brother Cavil provides counsel for [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] after Tyrol's maddened attack against [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]. Cavil identifies the source of Tyrol's anxiety as arising from the fear that he could be a [[Humanoid Cylon|Cylon sleeper agent]]. This Cavil seems to be personally very familiar with Tyrol and is apparently aware that Henderson harbors romantic feelings for him ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]). (Later analysis of Cavil's nature, from behavior in season 3 and 4 episodes, suggests that Cavil's comments were aimed to incite torment in Tyrol.)

A somewhat eccentric figure, Cavil is a surprisingly harsh critic of prayer for a Brother, but claims to have been preaching "longer than you [Tyrol] have been sucking down oxygen" ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]). This claim is patently false, as Tyrol is among Cavil's creators.

Despite his cynicism, Cavil prays with [[Laura Roslin]] for her re-election to the presidency to be successful. When Tyrol deduces the Caprica copy of him as a Cylon, Cavil is thrown in the brig along with his copy. He is later ejected through an airlock along with his copy (deleted scene). Due to the loss of the [[Resurrection Ship]], his death is presumed to be final ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).

==Caprica Copy==
[[Image:Cyca2.jpg|left|thumb|Caprican Cavil]]
A second copy of this model emerges from the crew of resistance members rescued by the Caprica [[SAR]] team, telling them that the Cylons had left the Colonies. What he does not tell them — until Tyrol blew his cover upon his arrival at ''Galactica'' — is that he is a Cylon.

Due to this copy's discovery, the Fleet copy is arrested as well and thrown in ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'''s brig. Laura Roslin orders them ejected into space after Caprica-Cavil informs her and Admiral Adama that the Cylons had made two mistakes: the attack on the Colonies and the pursuit of the [[the Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]). Due to the loss of the Resurrection Ship, his death is presumed to be final. Though their execution is not shown, a later conversation indicates that they were executed ([[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)#Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|deleted scene]]).

Like his Fleet counterpart, the Caprica copy also expresses doubt in the active involvement of divine forces in the real world, although he focuses his contempt on the Cylon religion. He says that "There is no [[God (RDM)|God]]", something that the Ones have been telling the other Cylons for years, though he acknowledges that God's existence or nonexistence can't actually be proven. Based on his conversation with the Fleet copy, this viewpoint appears to be shared between at least these two copies, and possibly across the entire model.

==New Caprica Copies==
[[Image:Brother Cavil Shades.jpg|thumb|right|A Cavil on New Caprica]]

At least two Ones are present in the invasion fleet on New Caprica, as seen in "[[Occupation]]" and "[[Precipice]]." They have some authority over humans in detainment, as [[Ellen Tigh]] is able to use sexual favors to bribe another into releasing [[Saul Tigh]]. This may have been a self-serving ruse, because after a second sexual encounter, One says to her of Saul, "When's his next meeting with the insurgents?" and "We know he's their leader - why do you think we let him out of detention?" Ellen replies, "I thought it was because of the 'twist'", referring to a sex act, and One says, "Oh, yes, that too."

Two copies are also involved in the Cylon leaders' discussions such as whether to kill [[Gaius Baltar]].

Another copy also acts as a type of liaison between the [[New Caprica Police|NCP]] and their Cylon masters. He gives [[Jammer]] the list of Colonials to detain, and later accompanies the NCP to the site of a mass execution of Colonial Detainees ([[Occupation]]).

The NCP liaison version is critically wounded during an attack by the Resistance movement. One is left with a bullet wound to the stomach and is left to die after the detainees are liberated. He resorts to suicide by severing his [[w:carotid artery|carotid artery]] with a spent casing. He [[Resurrection (RDM)|downloads]] into a new body for the third time; an experience that, as he explains, is similar to having a white hot poker slammed through his skull ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Shortly before her death, [[Ellen Tigh]] descibes the One she seduced as the one "in charge" of the Detention Facility ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

==Basestar Command Copies==
[[Image:CavHap2.jpg|thumb||left|Cylon Diplomat]]
After the Cylon fleet arrives at the [[algae planet]], a Cylon negotiation team negotiates a meeting on ''Galactica'', which consists of [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]], a [[Number Three]], and a Number One. The One ad-libs during the discussion, personally suggesting that the Cylons will hand over Baltar to the Colonials as part of the negotiation ("to sweeten the pot").

Later, a One (likely the same one) argues that they should destroy ''Galactica'' now and be rid of them for good. He thinks it does not matter if the Cylons find [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] in five days or five thousand years, saying that they can last forever, whereas the Colonials can't. He then determines Admiral Adama's claim that he will nuke the temple is a bluff even as ''Galactica'' preps its missile launchers ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

Another copy greets Number Three when she resurrects on a Resurrection Ship and informs her of the decision to box her model. She replies that someday he will know the truth of the [[Final Five]] like she does just before he removes the device storing her consciousness. Other Cavils are shown boxing other Number Threes all over the room in the Resurrection Ship ([[Rapture]]).

===Faction Leader Copy===
:''Owing to the identical nature of the Ones, the singular copy referred to below may actually be several different copies. Furthermore this copy could be the same as one discussed above, although there is no particular indication this is the case.''

In "[[Six of One]]" a Number One model, consistently referred to as "Cavil", despite the egalitarian and democratic principles of Cylon command, exudes an definite sense of assumed authority. As of such, he appears to be the ''de facto'' leader of one side of the [[Cylon Civil War|schism]] between the Cylons, composed of Ones, [[Four]]s, [[Five]]s, and [[Sharon Valerii]], opposed to the [[Number Two|Twos]], [[Number Six|Sixes]] and [[Number Eight|Eights]] loyal to [[Natalie]]. His is among the first blood shed in the Cylon Civil War, as Natalie has the [[Telencephalic inhibitor|self-aware]] [[Centurions]] (a concept Cavil is horrified by) attack. He initially appears to be forgiving, negotiating generous terms of truce with the rebels, although this is turns out to be a ploy for a devastating ambush, one which he justifies: "they started it".

Cavil is in a romantic relationship with Valerii, although the nature of it is odd, he condescendingly refers to her as his "pet Eight" ([[The Hub]]). He has been holding Ellen Tigh prisoner ever since she was killed by her husband and resurrected ([[No Exit]]).

This copy is killed by [[Number Three]] after he [[boxing|un-boxes]] her to try to convince her to get the rebels to stop. She breaks his neck when she learns of the attack on the Hub, believing that he won't have time to resurrect before it is destroyed ([[The Hub]]).

It is likely that she was wrong, as [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] brings a kidnapped Hera to a Number One which seems to be the same Cavil. He may have had to time to resurrect before the Hub was destroyed contrary to what D'Anna thought. It is equally possible that this is a different copy entirely, as they seem to share similar personalities. Regardless, this copy, alongside a [[Simon]], runs many tests on the child. ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

He is later seen with Boomer and Hera in [[The Colony]], and remarks upon how Hera "holds the key to their survival somewhere in her genetic code". ([[Daybreak, Part I]])

During the attack on [[The Colony]], Cavil invades the ''Galactica'' CIC to take back Hera Agathon. He agrees to hand her over to the Colonials in exchange for the secret of Resurrection, and backs down. His trademark sarcasm surfaces when he is impatient with the Final Five, saying they're "keeping two civilizations waiting". When [[Tyrol]] attacks and kills [[Tory Foster]], he takes this as a sign of aggression, attacking the Colonials. When his attack fails, he swears and puts a gun in his mouth, committing suicide. Many other Number One copies died with him when The Colony falls into the black hole it was orbiting and is destroyed. ([[Daybreak, Part II]])

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==Analysis==
In "[[Occupation]]" and "[[Precipice]]", the Ones are the most ''outwardly'' [[w:sadism|sadistic]] and cruel to humans, appearing to take pleasure (or at least a noticeable level of amusement) in their own acts of psychological and physical cruelty. They are even described by one of their creators, [[Ellen Tigh]], as being sadists. The Ones like toying with the idea of liquidating the human population on New Caprica as a solution to the Resistance, to "perhaps a more manageable number. Say, less than a thousand."

The Ones are described as being driven by base emotions, principally anger and jealousy ([[No Exit]]). They try to hide behind a facade of genial yet sarcastic superiority, but when situations move beyond their control they often lash out in rage, abandoning any pretence of civility. The Ones are a vindictive model; even their creators do not escape their anger and wrath. They specifically torture the [[Final Five]] psychologically and physically as a means of exacting "justice" for perceived slights against them. In conversation with the other Cylons, Ones are vocal and callous proponents of harsh measures against the [[New Caprica Resistance]] and are strong advocates of mass executions.

Though apparently [[w:Atheism|atheistic]], the first two known copies of this model pose as clergy. possibly as an intentional mockery of religion on their part. The Cavils on [[New Caprica]] often speak of "God" sarcastically when among other Cylons but seem to recognize the pragmatic aspects of religion, referring to the Cylon "plan" as "God's Plan." The Cavil who lead the main Cylon faction against the rebel faction is also implied to possess more personal knowledge than other Cylons as the nature of the Cylon god and possibly the Final Five. He plays a "gatekeeper" role, and refers to "God" as "the voice of reason."

With the Cylons apparently occupying [[New Caprica]] at the end of the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]], it appears that the Ones on ''Galactica'' are either lying about the Cylon change of heart or the Cylon plans changed after the second Number One was captured on ''Galactica''.

"[[Exodus, Part I]]" reveals that a Number One unit, the leader of the execution squad intercepted by the Resistance and who died there (his third death), experienced increasing head pain with each resurrection.

Several comments Number One makes in the episode "[[The Ties That Bind]]" indicate that he has some deeper knowledge of the Centurions than the rest of the Cylons do. This is because the Ones are the eldest of the eight Colonial-era Humanoid Cylons, the firsts ones to be created by the [[Final Five]]. They played a key role in helping the Five create both their seven brother and sister models and the advanced Centurions and Raiders.

==Notes==

*The word ''cavil'' is a noun and verb involving an irrelevant or trivial point made during an argument or discussion; synonyms include ''quibble'' and ''carp.'' (<span class="plainlinks">[http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cavil Dictionary Reference]</span>)
*Cavil's numerical designation isn't revealed until the episode "[[Six of One]]" in Season Four and his given name "John" is not revealed until "[[No Exit]]", also of Season Four.
*Cavil is also revealed in "No Exit" to have been, among other things, the anonymous stranger who placed an unconcious [[Ellen Tigh]] aboard the ''[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]'' during the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. His copy on Caprica was a member of Sam's resistance fighters, which is why his sudden appearance in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" was not remarked on with surprise.

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Cylon Models

2009-03-24T01:10:19Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Known Models */ What about the Ones, Fours and Fives on the basestars? Also, it's not clear if Three intended to kill herself or live off the land.

:''For information on the [[Original Series]] Cylons, see [[Cylons (TOS)]].''

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==The original Cylons==
The first Cylons in the Twelve Colonies, created by [[Daniel Graystone]], were robotic, but looked human.
{{spoiltext|Graystone's daughter [[Zoe Graystone|Zoe]] died in a suicide bombing. After learning that his daughter uploaded her personality into an online avatar before her death, Graystone decided to recreate Zoe as a robot, using technology stolen from his [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] competitor, [[Tomas Vergis]] with the help of his wife [[Amanda Graystone|Amanda]] and [[Joseph Adama]], whose wife and daughter also died in the same explosion. Zoe-A, the holographic avatar, was downloaded into a robot brain, and thus became Zoe-R, the first cybernetic life-form node, or Cylon. Graystone also created a Cylon version of [[Tamara Adama]], but her father was appalled by it, and decided to repent his actions.}}

==Centurion Model 0005==
[[Image:Cent 005.jpg|thumb|Cylon Centurion during the First Cylon War ([[Razor]])]]
Model Name: Cylon Centurion
:''Main article: [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]]''
The Centurion Model 0005<ref>This model was included in the miniseries primarily as an homage to the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]]. Within the context of the Re-imagined Series, the Model 0005 is over 40 years old, and was the last assumed appearance of the Cylons after the war.</ref>, glimpsed briefly in two scenes of the [[Miniseries]], was apparently the latest Cylon model to have been extensively documented by Colonial authorities after the [[Cylon War]]. It is a primitive model, resembling a short, clumsy humanoid with a single red eye - or as some of the Colonials contemptuously referred to them, "chrome [[toaster]]s". According to [[Saul Tigh]],<ref>From "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season02/202/deleted1.html deleted scene]</ref> they had a distinctive "stink" of machine oil.

These models were apparently the instigators of the Cylon rebellion, or their immediate descendants. They fought in all the major engagements of the Cylon War, including the boardings of ''[[Brenik]]'' and ''[[Galactica]]''. A painting by [[Monclair]] depicts a massive melee between early-model Cylons and joint Aerelon-Caprican ground forces.

Not only were these models sentient, they were far from emotionless — in his recollection of the ''Brenik'', [[Saul Tigh]] recalls their vicious tactics in hand-to-hand combat: "The first one was Duncan Raverty. I found him in the corridor. His guts were strewn around on the floor. Y'know, at first I couldn't figure out why the Cylons would bother doing something like that [...] You had to look into their red eye-slit. They hated us. They hated us so much it wasn't enough just to kill us" ("[[Scattered]]", deleted scene).

While remarks by [[Number Six]] in the miniseries state that "those [walking chrome toaster] models are still around. They have their uses," it is most likely that she is referring to the modern Centurions (below), which seem to have replaced the Model 0005 entirely.

A relatively small group of this model survives the "upgrade" on the later destroyed [[Guardian basestar]] ([[Razor]]).

==Modern Centurion==
[[Image:Cento.jpg|thumb|right|Modern Cylon Centurion, evolved from its First Cylon War predecessors.]]
:''Main article: [[Cylon Centurion]]''
The current mainstay of Cylon ground forces, the modern Centurion is a taller, swifter and more agile unit than the Model 0005. Its "fingers" serve as edged weapons in close-quarters combat, and can retract to make way for projectile weapons built into its forearms.

There are apparently two armor configurations - the Centurions encountered by Lt. [[Karl Agathon]] on occupied [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] were susceptible to normal small-arms fire, while a boarding party dispatched to ''Galactica'' in a boarding action could only be impeded by explosive rounds ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

While the earlier Centurion models presumably took a leadership role in their war against the Colonials, modern Centurions appear completely mute and are subservient to the human models. To prevent an uprising of their own, the human models did not design the modern Centurion with any sentience.<ref>Ron Moore, from [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/blogs/ blog] [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2006/01/#a000114 entries] on January 20th, 2006, confirms "the Centurions are not sentient[,] and their memories/experiences are not downloaded into new bodies when they die." [[William Adama]] notes this to his son in the episode, "[[Exodus, Part I]]."</ref>

==Earth Centurion Models==

After the combined Human/Cylon Fleet arrives on Earth ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]), an excavation unearths the remains of several Centurions scattered throughout the planet. Although recognizable as Cylon Centurions they represent a model (or models) not constructed by the Colonial Cylons. They eventually rebel against the early generation humanoid Cylons, starting a nuclear war. They destroyed the humanoid Cylons, most life on the planet, and possibly themselves as well ([[No Exit]]). It is unknown if they were actually called Centurions.

==Cylon Spacecraft==
[[image:SCinside2.jpg|thumb|right|[[Kara Thrace]] cuts her way through the biomechanical muscles of the [[Cylon Raider]] in order to get in ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]).]]
:''Main article: [[Cylon Spacecraft (RDM)]]''
The current model Cylon Raider is an autonomous craft ([[Miniseries]]), apparently capable of operating at fair distance from any command vessel ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]; [[Final Cut]]). Captain [[Jackson Spencer]], encountering the newer model Cylon Raider for the first time, expresses shock that "nobody's flying these things." Lt. [[Kara Thrace]] later discovers that the Raider she [[Skirmish over the Red Moon|shoots down]] is "alive". She removes most of its organic parts before returning with it to ''Galactica''. [[Sharon Valerii]], a Cylon sleeper agent, guesses that the Raider is a Cylon in its own right, although "more of an animal, maybe, than the human models... like a pet" ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]).

[[Sharon Agathon|Another Sharon copy]] confirms that Raiders "[[Resurrection (RDM)|download]]" and reincarnate. She echoes the earlier statement about the animal-like nature of Raiders: "A raider's much like a trained animal, with the basic consciousness and survival instinct."

A [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] is also an integrated blend of flesh and machine ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]). The ship is [[Basestar command|commanded by a group of Humanoid Cylons]], and has a living computer, the [[Hybrid]], which is essentially the basestar's brain and takes orders from humanoid models (more on ''Hybrid'' below). Hybrids do not function autonomously.<ref>In both these cases, the distinction between a "Cylon" and their own semi-sentient technology becomes increasingly blurred — interestingly, the same problem that led to the [[Cylon War]] in the first place.</ref>

== Human Models ==
:''Main article: [[Humanoid Cylons]]''
There is an organic humanoid model of Cylon that's almost completely indistinguishable from a human being. [[Final Five|Five]] of these models are actually the descendants of artificial life-forms created by humans on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] thousands of years ago. The others were created by the Five after the [[Cylon War|First Cylon War]] ([[No Exit]]).

The humanoid Cylons have become the quintessential Cylon form. They quietly and effectively infiltrated the Colonial defense forces, with humanoid models such as [[Number Six]] gaining access to secret military technology, and sleeper agents such as [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] being planted within the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] itself. These sleeper agents are programmed with false memories and appear genuine. Unplanned discovery of their true nature can be extremely disturbing for these units, and their behavior is not always predictable.

Only slight chemical differences reveal human from Humanoid Cylon. Humanoid Cylons also apparently differ from humans in two significant ways.
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[[Image:Sharonspine.jpg|thumb|right|Sharon Valerii conceives a child with [[Karl Agathon]] ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]).]]

===Reproductive Difficulties===
It was determined to be impossible for two Cylons to reproduce with each other<ref>According to the [[Podcast:Deadlock|podcast for Deadlock]], they were likely able to conceive but unable to carry pregnancies to term.</ref>, and as a result the Cylons begin cross-breeding experiments with humans, which results in the pregnancy of [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|the Caprica-copy of Sharon Valerii]]. Cylon beliefs attribute this to the love between Valerii and [[Karl Agathon]]. The forceful impregnation of human women however was unsuccessful ([[The Farm]]).

[[Saul Tigh]] and [[Caprica-Six]] conceived a fully Cylon child ([[Sine Qua Non]]), but the child was lost soon after [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen's]] return. ([[Deadlock]])

The Cylon tribe inhabiting Earth did not have these difficulties, and each of the Final Five were born to Cylon parents ([[No Exit]]).

===Physiology===
[[Image:6spine-ms.jpg|thumb|left|[[Number Six]]'s spine glows during intercourse]]On two occasions, the vertebrae of human-model Cylons have been seen to emit a red glow visible through the skin during sexual intercourse ([[Miniseries]], "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"). On one occasion, the eye of one of the [[Final Five]] is seen to emit a red glow ("[[He That Believeth In Me]]").

Other elements of Cylon humanoid physiology are light-sensitive. Tissues within in their forearms function as [[Cylon data port|data links]] which can be crudely interfaced with Colonial fiber-optic networks ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]), but are primarily for accessing the Cylon optical network known as the [[datastream]] ("[[Torn]]", "[[A Measure of Salvation]]").

Synthetic compounds unique to Cylon physiology ionize when subjected to [[Wikipedia:Plutonium|plutonium]] radiation, forming the basis of Dr. [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]]'s [[Cylon detector]].

Cylon nervous systems possess [[Silica Pathways|silica pathways]]. A legacy of their evolution from mechanical Cylons, this technology remains in the humanoid models. Silica pathways are susceptible to some forms of radiation, such as the one surrounding the [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Prolonged exposure to such radiation will gradually take a physical toll on a humanoid Cylon ([[Miniseries]], "[[Bastille Day]]"), and possibly impair the resurrection process. With other forms of radiation, humanoid Cylons possess greater (but not complete) resilience against radiation poisoning than humans ([[The Passage]]).

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===Known Models===

In the Miniseries, somewhat ambiguous comments by [[Caprica-Six]] and a note left for [[William Adama]] (presumably by [[Gaius Baltar]]) indicate that there were only twelve humanoid models at the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].<ref>Humanoid Cylons are constructs, archetypes of human behavior that are not and never were human, as clarified by [[Ronald D. Moore]] in an [http://www.thefandom.com/Article50.phtml interview] on "The Chase Show", hosted on the SF webcast news site [http://www.thefandom.com/TheFandom.com TheFandom.com].</ref> The final cylon, [[Ellen Tigh]], was revealed as of the episode "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]". There was once a thirteenth model, Number Seven, but that was destroyed decades ago by the Number One model.

The Cylons listed in italics are assumed deceased as of "[[Daybreak, Part II]]".
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Image:Tighlon.jpg|[[Saul Tigh]]
Image:Ellen Final Cylon.jpg|[[Ellen Tigh]]
Image:Anders_Cylon.jpg|''[[Samuel Anders]]''
Image:Tory Cylon.JPG|''[[Tory Foster]]''
Image:Tyrol Cylon.jpg|[[Galen Tyrol]]
Image:Cavil_closeup.jpg|[[Number One]]
Image:Leoben Headshot.jpg|[[Number Two]]
Image:Number Three Headshot.jpg|[[Number Three]]
Image:Cysim.jpg|[[Number Four]]
Image:Doral.jpg|[[Number Five]]
Image:Six_closeup.jpg|[[Number Six]]
Image:Unknown Cylon.jpg|''[[Number Seven]]''
Image:Eight.jpg|[[Number Eight]]
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===The "[[final five]]"===

[[Image:TheFinalFive.JPG|right|thumb|300px|The Final Five, as seen in visions by observers.]]
The existence or knowledge of the [[Final five|five remaining models]] appear to be something of a taboo in Cylon society. When Baltar mentions their absence to Caprica-Six he is told not to talk about them. The identities of these five models appear to be suppressed or missing from the Cylons' collective knowledge base.

D'Anna Biers, a Number Three model, believes that the five silhouetted figures she sees in a vision of Kobol's ancient [[Opera House]] while she is in the "space between life and death" prior to [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] are images of the final five.

Inside the [[Temple of Five]], D'Anna Biers manages to return to the "space between life and death" and sees the faces of the five and retains her memories of them for the first time. She apologizes to one of the five while she is in their presence. When she returns from her vision, she promptly dies before she can reveal who she saw. Biers's consciousness, along with those of all other Three models, is [[boxing|boxed]] to suppress knowledge of the five, until she is unboxed and subsequently rescued by the alliance of humans and Cylon renegades ("[[Rapture]]", "[[The Hub]]").

As [[Saul Tigh]], [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Tory Foster]] approached the [[Ionian nebula]], a strange [[The Music|event]] brings them physically together to realize that they are Cylons. [[Ellen Tigh]] was revealed as the final Cylon model in a memory of Saul Tigh's past life ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]). The Final Five are the only survivors of an entire civilization of humanoid Cylons that once existed on Earth. They are responsible for creating the other eight ([[No Exit]]).

===Hybrids===
:''Main articles: [[Hybrid]], [[First Hybrid]]''
[[Image:Hybrid.jpg|thumb|left|A Hybrid speaking "nonsense".]]

In addition to the humanoid Cylons, there is a type that is partly humanoid known as the Hybrids. Not to be confused with the Cylon/human hybrid child [[Hera Agathon]], the Hybrids aboard basestars resemble [[humanoid Cylon]]s, but are another type of Cylon similar to the autonomous bio-mechanical [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]]. They are specially constructed living computers that manage the autonomic functions of the basestar. The Hybrids are so integrated into the basestar's functionality that they ''are'', for all practical purposes, the basestar. [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] claims that development of the Hybrids was abandoned after the version used on modern baseships was created ([[Razor]]).

[[Image:First Hybrid.png|thumb|right|The First Hybrid]]

The [[First Hybrid]] created from the Cylons' experimentation with human beings possesses many of the same traits that the modern Hybrids exhibit, only with a few distinct differences. The First Hybrid, although it possesses the same metaphysical perception as its descendants, is considerably more lucid and speaks in coherent, though slightly ambiguous, sentences. Like the modern Hybrids, the First Hybrid functions as the central computer of its [[Guardian basestar|basestar]], but it also appears to function as the basestar's command and control, given the absence of modern humanoid Cylons aboard. While Athena claims the First Hybrid is an evolutionary dead-end and was abandoned by the Cylons, the Hybrid itself claims that its "children" see it as a god. The First Hybrid was destroyed along with its basestar in the [[Battle of the Guardian basestar]], and it is currently unknown whether or not it was the only one of its kind.
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===Organizational Relationships===

The humanoid models, as the most evolved form of Cylon, are in charge of all other models, such as the Centurions, Raiders, and Hybrids. [[Caprica-Six]]'s statement in "[[Downloaded]]" that Cylon culture is based on unity and that celebrities such as herself are something new implies that there is no single leader <ref>Like the [[Imperious Leader]] in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]].</ref>.

Instead, each model is equal in terms of power and authority and the Cylons make critical decisions based on consensus, or failing that, majority opinion. This approach to self-governance was taught to them by their creators, the [[Final Five]], and is a hold-over of the ancient Cylon government from [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] ([[Deadlock]]). One or two representatives from each available model gather and discuss matters in a forum-like environment, then hold a vote on what course of action to take. Each model gets one vote that represents the opinion of every copy of that model. Exceptions to this occur in the episode "[[Precipice]]", when Caprica-Six disagrees with the other Sixes, and in the episode "[[Six of One]]", when [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] gives a vote opposed to that of the other Eights. The Centurions, Raiders and the [[Hybrid|baseship Hybrids]] are not permitted a vote in the decision making process ("[[Occupation]]" through "[[A Measure of Salvation]]").

Though major decisions are made through consensus, the [[Number One]] models see themselves the ''de facto'' leaders and decision makers of their people, continuously making decisions behind the backs of the other models that effect the wellbeing of the Cylon race as a whole. Actions like the murder of the [[Final Five]], their implantation among the civilian population, the murder of the [[Number Seven]] model line and the cover-up of these actions are undertaken entirely by the Ones ([[No Exit]]). When the [[Number Three]] model goes against the collective will of her fellow models and ultimately imposes her will over the rest it is deemed as an act so radical that every Number Three copy is [[boxing|boxed]] for disrupting the unity of the Cylon race. This is merely a pretext used by Number One in order to prevent her from revealing that she had uncovered the identities of the [[Final Five]] ("[[The Eye of Jupiter]]", "[[Rapture]]").

Unlike the modern Hybrids, [[First Hybrid|the first Hybrid]] appears to exert independent control over its own [[Guardian basestar|basestar]] and [[Guardians|Cylon Centurions]]. The Hybrid claims that his "children" consider him to be a god. The exact meaning behind this statement is not yet known ([[Razor]]).

As of the [[Cylon Civil War]], the race has split into two factions with clear leaders. The first faction is comprised of Twos, Sixes, and Eights was originally led by the Number Six [[Natalie]], later by the last surviving Number Three, D'Anna Biers, and is currently led by a Number Six called [[Sonja]]. The other faction is led by the Number One known as John Cavil and comprised of Ones, Fives, Fours, and a lone Eight: Sharon Valerii. The [[Final Five]] operate among the human military and government as active members of (Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], Ensign [[Samuel Anders]], Cheif [[Galen Tyrol]]) or advisers to ([[Tory Foster]], [[Ellen Tigh]]) the Fleet leadership.

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Final Five

2009-03-24T01:01:05Z

Gordon Ecker: /* The Five Reunited */ it's already been invented at least twice, they could discover it a third time

[[Image:TheFinalFive.JPG|right|thumb|300px|The Final Five in the Kobol Opera House]]
The term "'''Final Five'''" collectively describes five of the thirteen [[Humanoid Cylon|Cylon humanoid models]], namely [[Samuel Anders]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Saul Tigh]], and [[Galen Tyrol]], whose identities were lost to the majority of the Cylon populace. These five Cylons are the descendants of ancient humanoid artificial life forms created by humans on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] thousands of years ago. They are also the creators of the so-called Significant Seven Cylons, plus [[Number Seven]], whose entire line was wiped out.

==The unauthorized quest for the Five==
[[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|Downloaded Three]], whom Gaius Baltar calls by her sister's alias, [[D'Anna Biers]], repeatedly commits suicide to get glimpses of five white-cloaked beings that she believes are images of the Final Five. She attempts to draw what she has seen, but has difficulty in doing so ([[Hero]]).

One detailed sketch which she briefly shows to Baltar depicts her personal artistic rendering of the faces of the Five ([[The Passage]]). The sketch is meant to depict [[Saul Tigh]], [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Samuel Anders]], and [[Tory Foster]]. ([[Crossroads, Part II]], [[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

[[Image:FFSketches.jpg|thumb|left|Sketches of the Five.]]
Baltar's ability to see a virtual doppelganger of Caprica-Six (as well as enjoying her company in various pleasant environments) leads him to suggest that he might be using a Cylon technique known as [[projection]]. This suspicion, in turn, makes Baltar begin a personal inquiry into his own nature after allying himself with D'Anna-Three.

The two eventually make their way to the [[algae planet]], where a Colonial structure, the fabled [[Temple of Five]], awaits with possible answers ("[[The Passage]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]"). When the system's dying star goes nova, a ray of light is generated by the mechanisms of the temple. Number Three steps into the light and suddenly finds herself back in the [[Opera House]] and before the same image of the Five, not persistent. Upon seeing their faces she recognizes one of them in particular, saying in surprise "You... forgive me... I had no idea." She is then pulled back to reality and collapses in Baltar's arms, apparently suffering the effects of a brain hemorrhage. She tells Baltar, "You were right," but dies before answering about what, or telling him what she saw. She tells the [[Cavil]] who greets her in the tank that there are five other Cylons, and he will see them some day ([[Rapture]]).

Later, she shows that she is aware of the identities of the four revealed Cylons, but does not immediately identify Ellen Tigh, the fifth, as Ellen is not among the population of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] and is believed to be dead ([[Revelations]], [[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

==Awareness of the Five by the other seven Cylons==

Caprica-Six indicates that the Cylons do not speak of the Five, but she knows how many there are. She later tells Roslin that she is actually "programmed not to think of them." Downloaded Three also indicates to Baltar that they do not discuss the Five. A [[Cavil]] realizes in the [[Temple of Five]] that the Three is attempting to see the Final Five, and not simply seeking [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. He tells her "That can't happen" and points a gun at her to stop her, but is shot by Baltar. Later, a Cavil explains that because of her obsession her entire line will be [[boxing|boxed]] ([[Rapture]]).

A [[Leoben Conoy]] claims that "Adama is a Cylon", although, even if he were one, Conoy should not know this. While there is a slight possibility that he could be referring to [[Tamara Adama|Adama's sister]], it is commonly believed that he is lying in order to create mistrust ([[Flesh and Bone]]).

The [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] copy of Number Eight, interrogated by Baltar, declares there are eight Cylons in the Fleet. Given that these Seven do not interact (or are unwilling to interact) with the Five at the time, the number that Boomer gives is likely other copies of the Seven in disguise. (This tendency to disguise is confirmed through [[Shelly Godfrey]], [[Gina Inviere]], [[D'Anna Biers]] and [[Brother Cavil]], among others). Also supporting this is the scene where number Three and Sharon Valerii discover Samuel Anders and refer to him as human in the episode "[[Downloaded]]". A later episode, "[[Rapture]]", shows a Three recognizing a putative human among the faces of the Five, confirming the lack of information to the Seven on the Five's identities.

Both [[Caprica Six]] and Sharon Agathon share a dream vision in which the glowing, white-robed figures of the Five are shown in the [[Opera House]] ([[Crossroads, Part II]]). After their activation, Caprica-Six, aboard ''Galactica'', has a sense that the Final Five are near ([[He That Believeth In Me]]), but fails to recognize Tigh even when directly confronted by him ([[Escape Velocity]]).

There are cases of the Seven and the Five committing violence on each other, including:
* Anders leads a [[Caprica Resistance|resistance movement]] on Cylon-occupied Caprica, killing several humanoids in the process ("[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", "[[The Farm]]").
* A Number Three copy attacks Anders on Caprica ([[Downloaded]]).
* A Number Five maims Tigh by destroying his right eye ("[[Occupation]]", [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 3 (RDM)#Occupation|deleted scene]]).
* Tigh, Tyrol and Anders lead a violent [[New Caprica Resistance|resistance movement]] on New Caprica, resulting in the deaths of many Cylons (''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]'', "Occupation" through "[[Exodus, Part II]]").
* Anders attacks a Two ([[The Road Less Traveled]]) and threatens to kill a copy of [[Number Six]] after she kills [[Jean Barolay]] ([[Faith]]).

While [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] are programmed to recognize and obey [[humanoid Cylon]]s, on a number of occasions they shoot at members of the Five, prior to their activation, including Tyrol on both Kobol and on the [[algae planet]], Anders both on Caprica and outside the Temple of Five, and most members during the escape from [[New Caprica]]. The behavior of a Centurion present at Ellen Tigh's resurrection indicates that its programming requires it to keep her prisoner for Cavil.

During the [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula]], a Cylon Raider makes eye contact with [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] in a Viper, causing a brief red flash from Anders' eye. Immediately, the Raider breaks off its attack, and the entire Cylon fleet retreats ([[He That Believeth In Me]]), after responding this IFF procedure. However, this display of free will and the prospect of making contact with the Five, creates a [[Cylon civil war|schism]] between the other six Cylons, who violently disagree over the appropriate course of action ([[Six of One]]).

[[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|Downloaded Three]] is unboxed by the [[Number One|Ones]], to ostensibly convince the rebels to stop fighting further, and rescued by the human-Cylon alliance, after killing Cavil. She initially keeps her knowledge about the Five's identities a secret in an attempt to secure her safety should the alliance collapse ([[The Hub]]). When she resumes her position as the ''de facto'' leader of the Cylon rebels she reveals to President Roslin and Admiral Adama that there are only ''four'' Cylons in their fleet, and does not elaborate on the status of the fifth, realizing that Ellen has been dead for nearly a year. She then holds the humans aboard her basestar, including Roslin and [[Gaius Baltar]], hostage in an attempt to force the four out of hiding. Tory Foster willingly goes to the basestar, and Three introduces her to her new Cylon "brothers" and "sisters". In the ensuing stand off, President [[Lee Adama]] attempts to force her to release her hostages by threatening to execute Tigh, Tyrol, and Anders and in doing so publicly announces their identities to the other Cylons on the basestar ([[Revelations]]).

In [[No Exit]], it is revealed that Cavil has always known the identities of the Final Five. Cavil revealed Ellen's identity to Boomer two months prior to the events in [[The Eye of Jupiter]] and [[Rapture]], the [[Number Four|Fours]] are also aware of Ellen's identity in the main timeframe of No Exit; it is unclear when they became aware of this, or whether the Fives are also aware.

== Four revealed, and their nature ==

[[Image:Four Revealed.jpg|thumb|Four of the Final Five from left to right: [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Saul Tigh]].]]

As the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] draws closer to the [[Ionian nebula]], four people begin hearing an [[The Music|unusual melody]]: these four are Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], Chief [[Galen Tyrol]], Ensign [[Samuel Anders]] and presidential aide [[Tory Foster]] ([[Crossroads, Part I]]). Tyrol and Anders say that the song seems like something from their childhoods, while Tigh becomes progressively more disturbed as he begins to hear the music everywhere on ''Galactica''. Foster becomes noticeably distracted, irritable, and unkempt, claiming to have not been sleeping well. When the fleet finally arrives at the Ionian Nebula the song becomes clear to the four who can hear it and they begin to stalk the halls of ''Galactica'' muttering its mysterious lyrics. Eventually, the four arrive at ''Galactica''’s gym and upon seeing each other the truth becomes clear to them; they are Cylons, four of the Final Five. When they learn the truth, they decide to remain loyal to the Colonial Fleet, because they thought they were humans for as long as they can remember, and cling to what they know to make sense of their lives. Moreover, Tigh sees himself as a soldier first and wants to hold up his oath.

After activation, the four revealed Cylons are unaware of any thoughts like Boomer's [[Sharon Valerii#Acts of sabotage|Cylon directives]] other than that they are Cylons. In a sense they know less than the audience and the Significant Seven, who at least know that the Final Five are fundamentally different models.<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=ffdifferent|timestamp=19:05|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref> Tigh and Anders painfully and confusedly recite events from their lives which make little sense in the context of their newly revealed nature. With particular pain, Tigh asks "My gods, what about Ellen?" His personal execution of his wife for being a Cylon collaborator, and his pain over it, has been a major theme in the episode. It is revealed much later that [[Ellen Tigh]] was in fact the fifth member of the final five and that she and the other five once lived on Earth two thousand years ago.

The nature of these Cylons is clearly different from the other seven. In particular, Colonel Tigh's friendship with William Adama stretches back a long time, though not to the first Cylon War itself ([[Scattered]], [[Crossroads, Part II]])

These Cylons possess superhuman physical strength, like the Significant Seven models ([[The Ties That Bind]], [[Escape Velocity]]). Also, Galen Tyrol was less affected than his wife by decompression sickness ([[A Day in the Life]]). During the [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula]], Samuel Anders' right eye responded to a Cylon Raider's scan by flashing red ([[He That Believeth In Me]]). The Final Five are capable of [[projection]], of identifying Significant Seven copies by sight, and of being connected to a Cylon [[datastream]] ([[Deadlock]], [[Someone to Watch Over Me]], [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

[[Caprica-Six]] describes being "programmed" not to think of the Five ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).

When [[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|Downloaded Three]] takes control of the rebel Cylon baseship, she holds humans ransom, demanding the Colonials permit the remaining four Final Five Cylons to join her. She is aware that one Final Five member is no longer among the fleet. Although civilian Tory Foster flies to the baseship under the pretext of taking medication to the captive President, the three soldiers remain loyal to the Colonies. To change Three's equasion, Tigh admits his nature and presents himself for arrest. Waiting in an airlock for Three to capitulate, he identifies Anders and Tyrol to Acting President [[Lee Adama]] who has the two aprehended and brought to the airlock. In conjunction with the resulting alliance between Colonials and the rebel Cylons, Acting President Adama pardons all Cylons and releases them from custody. ([[Revelations]])

Though freed by Lee Adama, neither Tigh, Anders nor Tyrol wears rank insignia on his fatigue collars while surveying post-apocalyptic Earth and upon their return to Galactica. ("[[Revelations]]", "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]"). Anders, however, continues to wear insignia on his flight suit under his fatigue field jacket. Conversely, the human soldiers and Lt. [[Sharon Agathon]] wear their rank on their fatigues. Tigh continues to reside in his quarters and his sidearm has not been confiscated, but he is not shown to have resumed his rank and duties until the morning after Admiral Adama's drunken attempt to motivate Tigh to kill him. ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

The Final Five do not have the reproductive difficulties of the Seven. So far one of Final Five, Saul Tigh, has managed to sire progeny. Only two of the millions of Significant Seven copies: Sharon Agathon and Caprica-Six, have managed to bear children, and none of the countless male Significant Seven copies have sired children.

==The Fifth is revealed==
On the devastated [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] the Four have visions that confirm their origin, that had indeed lived there 2,000 years ago as part of the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]], a humanoid Cylon civilization, all killed in the nuclear holocaust. Unknown to any of them is how they all found themselves as Colonials in a star system light-years away, their memories of their past lives all but gone.

Wading in the dead waters of Earth shortly before the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] returns to space and an unknown future, Colonel Tigh stumbles upon a post box hatch. Handling the hatch, he experiences a vision of his short moments in the holocaust, hearing shouts from a woman trapped in the fallen debris of an apartment building. The face is unmistakable. The vision of [[Ellen Tigh]] tells him that "Everything is in place," that they all will be reborn again, together ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

Saul Tigh realizes then that his late wife, is the last of the Five, the last of the twelve humanoid Cylon archetypes ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]). Tigh informs only the "upper echelons" of Ellen's true nature, including Admiral [[William Adama]], former interim President [[Lee Adama]], Vice President [[Tom Zarek]], and President [[Laura Roslin]]. At a press conference on ''[[Colonial One]]'', Lee Adama informs the press, inadvertently, that the final Cylon is both a woman and believed to be dead, though he does not specifically identify Ellen by name ([[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]).

Ellen's true nature is later made public knowledge upon her return to the fleet ([[Deadlock]]).

==The story of the Final Five==
In [[No Exit]], the origin of the Five is revealed. Samuel Anders regains his Cylon memories after getting shot in the head and he reveals what he knows to Saul Tigh, Galen Tyrol, and Tory Foster, as well as [[Kara Thrace]]. The Final Five worked in a research facility on Earth. Saul and Ellen were married even back then and Tyrol and Tory were in love and planned to get married. What they were researching was a way to re-invent [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] technology. Organic memory transfer came from [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], but had fell out of use after the Thirteenth Tribe Cylons started to procreate. The Five worked night and day to rebuild it, spurred by apocalyptic warnings from [[Virtual beings#The Final Five's Virtual Beings|"the messengers"]]. Tyrol's work on the project was "amazing", but it was Ellen who made the intuitive leap that brought the system back online.

The Five then placed the technology and new bodies for them on a ship they placed in orbit around Earth. When they were all killed in the nuclear holocaust unleashed by Earth's mistreated [[Cylon Models#Earth Centurion Models|mechanical Cylons]], they were reborn in their new bodies on the ship in orbit. Realizing that the other Twelve Tribes would continue to create artificial life, they headed for the Colonies to tell the humans to treat their creations well and keep them close. Because their people hadn't developed [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series|jump drives]], the Five's ship traveled at relativistic, but subluminal speed. Time slowed down for them, but thousands of years had passed. According to Ellen, they stopped at the [[Temple of Five|Temple of Hopes]] on their way to the Colonies, a temple that was created by their ancestors where they prayed and got a sign that led them to Earth. But Ellen said that the Five were not responsible for the vision that Number Three received of them, saying that it must have been orchestrated by [[God (RDM)|God]].

By the time they got to the Colonies, the humans were already at [[Cylon War|war]] with the [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]]. The Centurions were already trying to make flesh bodies. They had created the [[Hybrid]]s, but nothing that lived on its own, so the Five made a deal with them: they stop the war and the Five will help them create humanoid Cylons. The Centurions agreed and signed the [[Cimtar Peace Accord]] with humanity. The Five and the Centurions then withdrew to a mobile space station called [[The Colony]] placed beyond the [[Armistice Line]]. The Five and the Centurions apparently worked well together; the Five had learned to respect mechanical Cylons, and even adopted the Centurions' [[Cylon Religion|monotheistic beliefs]].

The Five developed the eight humanoid models and gave them resurrection technology. They created [[Number One]] first, named him John. He was named after Ellen's father and also made in his image. Number One later changed his name to Cavil as he hated the name John. Cavil helped the Five build the other seven humanoid models. Ellen was close to [[Number Seven]] (Daniel) and Cavil, out of jealousy, contaminated the amniotic fluid in which the Daniel copies were maturing and then corrupted the genetic formula. This wiped out the copies permanently, and as Anders said of Daniel: "he died", indicating that the original Daniel was lost as well.

Cavil rejected mercy. He had a twisted idea of morality and despised the Five for contaminating their creations with human weaknesses and Centurion religious ideals, so he turned on them. He trapped them in a compartment and then he took the oxygen offline. Cavil [[Boxing|boxed]] the Five at first but ultimately unboxed them and downloaded them into new bodies, blocking their true memories and implanting false ones, then introducing them one by one into the colonies. He introduced Saul first, not long after the war. And then Ellen. Cavil put the Five into the human population in order to truly show them what humans are like. He hoped that when they died and resurrected (which restores their real memories) they'd be ready to admit they were wrong. This is why they never knew who they really were. The truth behind the [[The Music|music]] that triggered their knowledge of their true selves has yet to be revealed.

Cavil erased all knowledge of their identities from his siblings and his was the only Cylon model that knew their identities afterwards, but he kept at least one new body for each of them to download into. When Ellen was killed by Saul, she downloaded into a new body on a [[Resurrection Ship]]. With the destruction of the [[Resurrection Hub|Hub]], the Five are the only ones who know how to rebuild resurrection technology, but Ellen claims it would take all five working together to rebuild it and even then she's not sure they could do it.

==The Five Reunited==
After Boomer helps Ellen escape from Cavil, the Five are finally reunited although Anders is pretty much brain dead except when he acts as a Hybrid for ''Galactica''. The Rebel Cylons decide that perhaps they should leave the Fleet for good now that they have all of the Five and leave it up to the Five to decide. Tigh and Anders vote no, Tory and Tyrol vote yes and initaly Ellen is undecided. In order to spite her husband as she's angry at him for his relationship with Caprica Six and Caprica's pregnancy by him, she votes yes, but after Caprica Six miscarries, she changes her mind saying that humans and Cylons ''should'' be together and she only voted yes out of anger. The Five later gather in Joe's Bar and are shocked to hear The Music which Ellen seems to recignize as well. When Admiral Adama calls everyone to talk about the rescue mission for Hera Agathon, Ellen tells Tory they're both going, and although Tory initaly protests, Tyrol convinces her to go and all of the Final Five go on the rescue. Anders acts as ''Galactica's'' Hybrid on the mission while Ellen and Tory and monitor him. Tyrol and Tigh later joins them when a fire starts and they go to put it out. When the Opera House Prophecy finally comes true, the Five are standing in similar places on CIC's balcony as that's where they placed Anders' Hybrid tank. The Five offer to give Cavil back resurrection if he agrees to let them take Hera and leaves humanity alone forever. He agrees and the Five are revealed to each hold a piece of the secret of resurrection and all need to combine together in order to get the whole thing. Using the data stream in Anders' tank, they combine the pieces and start transmitting it to the Colony, but a side-effect is that they see each others memories at the same time. Tyrol learns from Tory's memories that she murdered Cally and he flies into a rage, breaks the Five's download to the Colony and strangles Tory and breaks her neck, killing her. Later, Anders flies ''Galactica'' and her Fleet into the Sun, destroying the ships and himself. With the deaths of Anders and Tory, there are only three of the Final Five left alive and there is little chance for resurrection to be rebuilt as all five had exclusive knowledge of some aspect of the technology.

==Connections between the Colonial gods and Cylon god==

*The thirteenth tribe was a tribe of Cylons.
*The Temple of Five was built over 4,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. According to Colonial scriptures, "Five pillars of the temple were fashioned after the five priests devoted to the one whose name cannot be spoken".
*On [[New Caprica]], Number Three meets [[Dodona Selloi]], a human [[oracle]], who relays a message from Three's God, despite the oracle's association with the Lords of Kobol.
*With this information, there is a strong, but unexplained correlation or connection with the Cylon God and the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)#The Lords of Kobol|Lords of Kobol]].
*The thirteenth tribe were polytheistic and had a [[Temple of Aurora]] on their planet.

==Kara Thrace, The Eye of Jupiter, and the first Hybrid==

*The Eye of Jupiter storyline introduced an association between Kara Thrace, a human that [[Eye of Jupiter|"doodled" a circular image as a child]] with no prior derivation (her old apartment on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] has a painting of the image from the episode, "[[Valley of Darkness]]"), and the mandalas or icons of the eye that decorated a temple built 4,000 years before her birth. No further information is revealed other than the prophecy from [[Leoben Conoy]], who told Thrace of an [[The Destiny|unexplained "destiny"]] ([[Flesh and Bone]]).
*The [[first Hybrid]] gives a monologue about his knowledge of the Final Five in the extended version of "[[Razor]]". It states:

:"Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity and in the midst of confusion, he will find her. Enemies brought together by impossible longing. Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering."

:Its description predicts the internal revelation that four of the Five would experience in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" through "[[Revelations]]". The fifth and final Cylon remains hidden, longing to be forgiven for some type of trespass, but will experience suffering in the process.

*The first Hybrid also mentions Kara Thrace to [[Kendra Shaw]], claiming, "She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death..." as the end of the human race. He warns Shaw that the humans should not follow her ([[Razor]]). However, the Hybrid never confirms Thrace's nature. More than a year later, another [[Hybrid]] claims that Thrace will lead all of humanity to destruction ([[Faith]]).

==Illusion or truth==
*The Threes' hunt for and see visions of the Five, which leads to the other Cylons themselves [[boxing]] the entire line of Threes after her discovery, but whether this is done to suppress the notion or actual information of the final five or to relieve the other Cylons of an aberrant model is unclear.
**As of "[[The Hub]]" the single re-activated D'Anna is the only one who knows the identity of all five models, information she is keeping for use as a bargaining chip.
*Later, in dream visions of the [[Opera House]] shared by [[Laura Roslin]], [[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Caprica-Six]], the same 5 glowing figures seen by Three appear, along with the same chamber with six drapes, this time empty. Six sees them for a more prolonged period in a second vision.
*It may never be revealed what Baltar (or another human) would have seen. While Baltar believed Three and actively participated in her quest, both his virtual Six and a [[Hybrid]] noted that he, not Three, was intended to use the Temple's imaging mechanism as the "chosen one". The significance of the [[five priests]], [[The One Whose Name Cannot Be Spoken|the god they worshiped]], and their connections with the Cylons, Kara Thrace and Baltar are not yet explained.

==Notes==

* In the podcast for "[[Rapture]]", it is stated that the boxing of the Threes was the first time an entire model had been eliminated, implying that the Final Five were not [[boxing|boxed]]<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Rapture|act=4|id=firstboxing|timestamp=41:47|totalrunning=}}</ref>. In [[No Exit]], this assumption was established to be incorrect, as the Final Five were temporarily boxed before they were sent to the Colonies with false memories. The statement itself was also contradicted in the same episode, which established that Cavil destroyed the [[Number Seven]] line.
* During a Q&A session on the official Sci Fi channel ''Battlestar Galactica'' forum Ronald D. Moore notes that he already knows who the last Cylon is, and that he's already left clues as to who it is<ref>[http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2270103&st=0&p=3041263&#entry3041263 20 Answers - SCI FI FORUMS] Retrieved 03-27-2007</ref>.
* Despite the revelation of all of the Significant Seven's model numbers in "[[Six of One]]", [[Ron D. Moore]] confirmed that the Final Five '''do not''' have model numbers like the [[Significant Seven]].<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.thefutoncritic.com/rant.aspx?id=20080611|title=Rants & Reviews - Live at the "Battlestar Galactica" Midseason Finale Premiere|date=11 June 2008|accessdate=13 June 2008|last=Sullivan|first=Brian Ford|format=|language=}}</ref> This leaves it a mystery why there is no known humanoid model designated [[Number Seven]]. This is addressed in a [[No Exit|later episode]].

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Hera Agathon

2009-03-23T03:49:23Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Return to the Cylons */ renaming to Return to the Cylons, rescue and ultimate destiny

:''For information on the Lord of Kobol of the same name, see [[Hera, Lord of Kobol]].''
{{Character Data
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|caption=Alexandra Thomas as Hera.
|photo 2=Hera Agathon.jpg
|caption 2=Lily Duong-Walton as Hera.
|age= 3 Years Old<br/>Born [[Timeline (RDM) #Downloaded|9 months after]] the Cylon Attack ([[Downloaded]])
|colony=
|birthname= Hera Agathon
|servicen=
|callsign=
|seen= Downloaded
|death= Unknown cause as a relatively young mother in Tanzania, c. 150,000 BCE
|parents= [[Sharon Agathon]] (biological mother)<br>[[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]] (biological father)<br>[[Maya]] (adoptive mother)†
|siblings=
|children=At least one daughter;<br>All modern humans are her matrilineal decendants
|marital status=
|role= "Lead the next generation of God's children"
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|actor= [[Lily Duong-Walton]],<br/>[[Alexandra Thomas]] (older Hera)<br>[[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] (older Hera)
|hcylon= y
|name= Hera Agathon;<br>Isis to [[Maya|adoptive mother]];<br>[[w:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] to real-world modern scientists
}}
'''Hera Agathon''' is the first successful Human/[[Humanoid Cylon|Cylon]] hybrid, the culmination of the Cylons' experiments to achieve viable procreation. Being the only known successful progeny of a humanoid Cylon; the Cylons literally consider her a "miracle from God".

==History==
===Conception===
Her parents are the human [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]] and the Cylon [[Sharon Agathon|Sharon "Athena" Agathon]]; both officers of the Battlestar ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''.

Sharon; who at the time was posing as [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], was dispatched by her comrades to take part in a Cylon experiment; involving setting up Karl to fall in love with and impregnate her.

Previous and other current attempts to create hybrids; most especially the forced cross-breeding experiments in the Cylon [[Farms]] met with complete failure, thus making the experiment necessary. The Cylons theorized that the key element to procreation they were missing was true love (itself an important element to Cylons, because they believe that "[[God (RDM)|God]] is love").

Some time after the experiment began; Karl and Sharon finally conceived their daughter in a night of passionate sex, following Karl's "rescue" of Sharon (really a deceitful test by the Cylons to test his love for Sharon; which he passed). Immediately following her success, Sharon is ordered to convince Karl to stay in "hiding" on Caprica. Unfortunately, however, Sharon, by this time, had really fallen in love with Karl. To this end, Sharon began helping him to escape the Cylons; her love for Karl and their unborn child eventually leading her to switch her allegiance over to the Colonials.

[[Kara Thrace]] (who arrived earlier on Caprica to retrieve the [[Arrow of Apollo]]) leaves with Caprica-Valerii and Agathon in a captured [[Heavy Raider]]. Caprica-Valerii is incarcerated in ''Galactica's'' [[brig]] for the next few months, as her pregnancy continues to advance.

===Birth===
Agathon is born by emergency surgery one month premature. President [[Laura Roslin]] arranges with Doctor [[Cottle]]—and without Admiral [[William Adama]]'s involvement—to fake Agathon's death and secretly gives the child to a woman named [[Maya]] under the guise that the child is the daughter of a ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' officer. The subterfuge, Roslin presumes, is necessary to keep Agathon safe from humanoid Cylons that may be hiding in the Fleet ([[Downloaded]]) <ref>In a deleted subplot from "[[Downloaded]]", [[Gina]] and [[D'Anna Biers]] scheme to kidnap Agathon at [[Gaius Baltar]]'s request. Gina expresses disgust at Agathon being named for a [[Hera, Lord of Kobol|human god]]. When D'Anna asks Gina what they should call the baby, Gina suggests "Thirteen".</ref>. Maya, unaware of her new child's past, names the girl Isis ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).

[[Image:Baby_Hera.jpg|right|thumb|Hera Agathon as an infant, in the care of [[Maya]].]]
[[Gaius Baltar]]'s [[Virtual beings|virtual Number Six]] tells him he will someday raise this child, told to him in a vision he had while trapped on the planet [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]. However, unaware of what President Roslin has done, Baltar, like the rest of the people who knew about her, believes Agathon to be dead.

When the Fleet settles on [[New Caprica]] under the rule of newly-elected President Baltar, Roslin begins teaching at a settlement elementary school with Maya. Roslin keeps Agathon and Maya close for observation in a cradle identical to the one Baltar saw in his vision.

Before the [[Battle of New Caprica]], Roslin hides Maya and Agathon in the [[New Caprica Resistance|resistance's]] underground bunker. She then takss [[Samuel Anders]] to have two of his best men protect them at all costs, and later make sure they get off the planet. ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

===Time with the Cylons===
In actuality, however, during the civilian evacuation, Maya is killed and Hera left behind. Later, when it is confirmed neither escaped with the Fleet, Roslin assumes Hera died on New Caprica. In actuality, however, Hera was found and rescued by President Baltar, [[Caprica-Six]], and [[Number Three]], and brought aboard a a [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] ([[Exodus, Part II]]). She remains in the care of the Cylons, who are happy to welcome her.

Later, Hera begins to fall ill, and none of the Cylon physicians (who have no pediatric experience) understand why.

===Return===
Karl and Sharon finally learn of Roslin's duplicity when Adama reveals the truth (after learning it from Boomer and confronting Roslin with the knowledge). Naturally, Karl and Sharon take it hard, and immediately Sharon desires to see her. Later, she compels her extremely-reluctant husband to shoot her dead, so she can [[Resurrection (RDM)|download]] to the Cylon ships. Later, Adama is convinced by Karl that Sharon will not be captured and forced to convey information on her mission, and when Roslin objects, Karl coldly reminds her if she hadn't lied and stolen Hera from them; the situation would never have developed, and so Roslin immediately capitulates.

Upon downloading, the sympathetic Caprica-Six brings Sharon to Hera, believing her story of how the humans wouldn't let her see her daughter and so felt it was the only way. Hera immediately recognised her mother (despite Boomer being in the same room) and Sharon tearfully reunited with her.

Sharon, through her Colonial training and maternal instinct, realizes that only Colonial medical care can save Hera Agathon, who appears to be suffering from an intestinal blockage. She persuades Caprica-Six to help her escape back to ''Galactica'' with Hera ("[[The Eye of Jupiter]]", "[[Rapture]]").

Agathon appears in several visions seen by Caprica-Six, Laura Roslin, and Sharon as the Fleet approaches the [[Ionian Nebula]]. In each vision, the three adults are compelled to save the child for motives not explained ([[Crossroads, Part II]]).

Two months later, after returning from the ''[[Demetrius]]'' mission with a [[Cylon Civil War|rebel Cylon basestar]], Sharon discovers that Agathon has a fixation with [[Number Six]], seeing that Hera's various crayon drawings of both the number itself and various depictions of Six, including one that looks like the [[Virtual Six]] in the red dress. Agathon then leaves after this discovery, leaving her mother to frantically search around ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> corridors for her. After Sharon sees Natalie with Agathon, she has [[Galen Tyrol]] take Agathon away before mortally wounding Natalie ([[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]). As a result of this action, Agathon is briefly taken away from her mother, herself incarcerated in ''Galactica''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> brig by Admiral Adama, but he reverses that decision days later ([[Sine Qua Non]]).

===Return to the Cylons, rescue and ultimate destiny===
Hera remains in the care of her parents, and soon it becomes apparant that she is a critical part of solving the mysteries of the Final Five's history and mankind's destiny. The Agathon family's tranquility is shattered when Boomer, having pretended to defect to the Colonials with Ellen Tigh, executed her mission to capture Hera and bring her to John Cavil. To this end, Boomer knocks out Sharon, seduces and has sex with Karl (in front of a bound Sharon) and picks up Hera from the ship's daycare, and drugs the child and places her in a supply crate on her Raptor. Boomer is able to escape, as Adama cannot have her shot down without risk to Hera ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).

Hera immediately misses her parents, and Boomer was near forcefully sedating her to keep her quiet, but calms down, and instead calms her with her projection ability (which Hera is discovered to share). Hera is brought to [[The Colony]] and handed over to Cavil ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]). Cavil reveals to Boomer, who was reluctant to leave Hera (and vice-versa), that he plans to dissect and study her to discover the secret of her creation and use it to allow the Cylons to have hybrid children on their own and save their species.

Meanwhile, on Galactica, Karl and Sharon are devastated by their child's loss, with Sharon inconsolable and assuming Hera has already been dissected and killed by Cavil, but Karl, becoming increasingly unstable, still holds a shred of hope for seeing her again.

With Galactica dying, Adama assembles the crew for the ship's final mission; rescue Hera from Cavil ([[Daybreak, Part I]]).

Boomer ultimately decides to kill the Simon operating on Hera and return her to her parents, who have boarded the Colony. Boomer is then killed by Athena. Starbuck, Apollo, Helo, and Athena return to ''Galactica'' with Hera, but lose track of her during the firefight with an enemy Cylon boarding party. Hera is sheltered by Roslin, and then by Caprica-Six and Baltar, who take her into [[CIC#Galactica|CIC]] and protect her from Cavil, fulfilling the [[Opera House Prophecy]].

Hera is among the survivors that settle on the [[Earth (RDM)#A New Earth|new Earth]], where she will live an agrarian and hunter/gatherer lifestyle with her parents in an area known later as Tanzania. Her fossilized remains are discovered in 150,000 years and identified as the "[[w:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]]", most recent common ancestress of all living humans, by archaeologists from the Smithsonian Institute in Washington. ([[Daybreak, Part II]]).

==Notes==
*The series' producers have noted, in a ''TV Guide'' interview, that this character will not "hyperage", that is, suddenly become much older than series-elapsed time (see the talk page of this article for more information).

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Final Five

2009-03-20T00:58:00Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Notes */ clarification: it wasn't stated that they were boxed, merely that they weren't "eliminated" like the Threes

[[Image:TheFinalFive.JPG|right|thumb|300px|The Final Five in the Kobol Opera House]]
The term "'''Final Five'''" collectively describes five of the thirteen [[Humanoid Cylon|Cylon humanoid models]], namely [[Samuel Anders]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Saul Tigh]], and [[Galen Tyrol]], whose identities were lost to the majority of the Cylon populace. These five Cylons are the descendants of ancient humanoid artificial life forms created by humans on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] thousands of years ago. They are also the creators of the so-called Significant Seven Cylons, plus [[Number Seven]], whose entire line was wiped out.

==The unauthorized quest for the Five==
[[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|Downloaded Three]], whom Gaius Baltar calls by her sister's alias, [[D'Anna Biers]], repeatedly commits suicide to get glimpses of five white-cloaked beings that she believes are images of the Final Five. She attempts to draw what she has seen, but has difficulty in doing so ([[Hero]]).

One detailed sketch which she briefly shows to Baltar depicts her personal artistic rendering of the faces of the Five ([[The Passage]]). The sketch is meant to depict [[Saul Tigh]], [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Samuel Anders]], and [[Tory Foster]]. ([[Crossroads, Part II]], [[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

[[Image:FFSketches.jpg|thumb|left|Sketches of the Five.]]
Baltar's ability to see a virtual doppelganger of Caprica-Six (as well as enjoying her company in various pleasant environments) leads him to suggest that he might be using a Cylon technique known as [[projection]]. This suspicion, in turn, makes Baltar begin a personal inquiry into his own nature after allying himself with D'Anna-Three.

The two eventually make their way to the [[algae planet]], where a Colonial structure, the fabled [[Temple of Five]], awaits with possible answers ("[[The Passage]]", "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]"). When the system's dying star goes nova, a ray of light is generated by the mechanisms of the temple. Number Three steps into the light and suddenly finds herself back in the [[Opera House]] and before the same image of the Five, not persistent. Upon seeing their faces she recognizes one of them in particular, saying in surprise "You... forgive me... I had no idea." She is then pulled back to reality and collapses in Baltar's arms, apparently suffering the effects of a brain hemorrhage. She tells Baltar, "You were right," but dies before answering about what, or telling him what she saw. She tells the [[Cavil]] who greets her in the tank that there are five other Cylons, and he will see them some day ([[Rapture]]).

Later, she shows that she is aware of the identities of the four revealed Cylons, but does not immediately identify Ellen Tigh, the fifth, as Ellen is not among the population of the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] and is believed to be dead ([[Revelations]], [[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

==Awareness of the Five by the other seven Cylons==

Caprica-Six indicates that the Cylons do not speak of the Five, but she knows how many there are. She later tells Roslin that she is actually "programmed not to think of them." Downloaded Three also indicates to Baltar that they do not discuss the Five. A [[Cavil]] realizes in the [[Temple of Five]] that the Three is attempting to see the Final Five, and not simply seeking [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. He tells her "That can't happen" and points a gun at her to stop her, but is shot by Baltar. Later, a Cavil explains that because of her obsession her entire line will be [[boxing|boxed]] ([[Rapture]]).

A [[Leoben Conoy]] claims that "Adama is a Cylon", although, even if he were one, Conoy should not know this. While there is a slight possibility that he could be referring to [[Tamara Adama|Adama's sister]], it is commonly believed that he is lying in order to create mistrust ([[Flesh and Bone]]).

The [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] copy of Number Eight, interrogated by Baltar, declares there are eight Cylons in the Fleet. Given that these Seven do not interact (or are unwilling to interact) with the Five at the time, the number that Boomer gives is likely other copies of the Seven in disguise. (This tendency to disguise is confirmed through [[Shelly Godfrey]], [[Gina Inviere]], [[D'Anna Biers]] and [[Brother Cavil]], among others). Also supporting this is the scene where number Three and Sharon Valerii discover Samuel Anders and refer to him as human in the episode "[[Downloaded]]". A later episode, "[[Rapture]]", shows a Three recognizing a putative human among the faces of the Five, confirming the lack of information to the Seven on the Five's identities.

Both [[Caprica Six]] and Sharon Agathon share a dream vision in which the glowing, white-robed figures of the Five are shown in the [[Opera House]] ([[Crossroads, Part II]]). After their activation, Caprica-Six, aboard ''Galactica'', has a sense that the Final Five are near ([[He That Believeth In Me]]), but fails to recognize Tigh even when directly confronted by him ([[Escape Velocity]]).

There are cases of the Seven and the Five committing violence on each other, including:
* Anders leads a [[Caprica Resistance|resistance movement]] on Cylon-occupied Caprica, killing several humanoids in the process ("[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", "[[The Farm]]").
* A Number Three copy attacks Anders on Caprica ([[Downloaded]]).
* A Number Five maims Tigh by destroying his right eye ("[[Occupation]]", [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 3 (RDM)#Occupation|deleted scene]]).
* Tigh, Tyrol and Anders lead a violent [[New Caprica Resistance|resistance movement]] on New Caprica, resulting in the deaths of many Cylons (''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]'', "Occupation" through "[[Exodus, Part II]]").
* Anders attacks a Two ([[The Road Less Traveled]]) and threatens to kill a copy of [[Number Six]] after she kills [[Jean Barolay]] ([[Faith]]).

While [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]] are programmed to recognize and obey [[humanoid Cylon]]s, on a number of occasions they shoot at members of the Five, prior to their activation, including Tyrol on both Kobol and on the [[algae planet]], Anders both on Caprica and outside the Temple of Five, and most members during the escape from [[New Caprica]]. The behavior of a Centurion present at Ellen Tigh's resurrection indicates that its programming requires it to keep her prisoner for Cavil.

During the [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula]], a Cylon Raider makes eye contact with [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] in a Viper, causing a brief red flash from Anders' eye. Immediately, the Raider breaks off its attack, and the entire Cylon fleet retreats ([[He That Believeth In Me]]), after responding this IFF procedure. However, this display of free will and the prospect of making contact with the Five, creates a [[Cylon civil war|schism]] between the other six Cylons, who violently disagree over the appropriate course of action ([[Six of One]]).

[[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|Downloaded Three]] is unboxed by the [[Number One|Ones]], to ostensibly convince the rebels to stop fighting further, and rescued by the human-Cylon alliance, after killing Cavil. She initially keeps her knowledge about the Five's identities a secret in an attempt to secure her safety should the alliance collapse ([[The Hub]]). When she resumes her position as the ''de facto'' leader of the Cylon rebels she reveals to President Roslin and Admiral Adama that there are only ''four'' Cylons in their fleet, and does not elaborate on the status of the fifth, realizing that Ellen has been dead for nearly a year. She then holds the humans aboard her basestar, including Roslin and [[Gaius Baltar]], hostage in an attempt to force the four out of hiding. Tory Foster willingly goes to the basestar, and Three introduces her to her new Cylon "brothers" and "sisters". In the ensuing stand off, President [[Lee Adama]] attempts to force her to release her hostages by threatening to execute Tigh, Tyrol, and Anders and in doing so publicly announces their identities to the other Cylons on the basestar ([[Revelations]]).

In [[No Exit]], it is revealed that Cavil has always known the identities of the Final Five. Cavil revealed Ellen's identity to Boomer two months prior to the events in [[The Eye of Jupiter]] and [[Rapture]], the [[Number Four|Fours]] are also aware of Ellen's identity in the main timeframe of No Exit; it is unclear when they became aware of this, or whether the Fives are also aware.

== Four revealed, and their nature ==

[[Image:Four Revealed.jpg|thumb|Four of the Final Five from left to right: [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Saul Tigh]].]]

As the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] draws closer to the [[Ionian nebula]], four people begin hearing an [[The Music|unusual melody]]: these four are Colonel [[Saul Tigh]], Chief [[Galen Tyrol]], Ensign [[Samuel Anders]] and presidential aide [[Tory Foster]] ([[Crossroads, Part I]]). Tyrol and Anders say that the song seems like something from their childhoods, while Tigh becomes progressively more disturbed as he begins to hear the music everywhere on ''Galactica''. Foster becomes noticeably distracted, irritable, and unkempt, claiming to have not been sleeping well. When the fleet finally arrives at the Ionian Nebula the song becomes clear to the four who can hear it and they begin to stalk the halls of ''Galactica'' muttering its mysterious lyrics. Eventually, the four arrive at ''Galactica''’s gym and upon seeing each other the truth becomes clear to them; they are Cylons, four of the Final Five. When they learn the truth, they decide to remain loyal to the Colonial Fleet, because they thought they were humans for as long as they can remember, and cling to what they know to make sense of their lives. Moreover, Tigh sees himself as a soldier first and wants to hold up his oath.

After activation, the four revealed Cylons are unaware of any thoughts like Boomer's [[Sharon Valerii#Acts of sabotage|Cylon directives]] other than that they are Cylons. In a sense they know less than the audience and the Significant Seven, who at least know that the Final Five are fundamentally different models.<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Frak Party Q and A|act=|id=ffdifferent|timestamp=19:05|totalrunning=78:27}}</ref> Tigh and Anders painfully and confusedly recite events from their lives which make little sense in the context of their newly revealed nature. With particular pain, Tigh asks "My gods, what about Ellen?" His personal execution of his wife for being a Cylon collaborator, and his pain over it, has been a major theme in the episode. It is revealed much later that [[Ellen Tigh]] was in fact the fifth member of the final five and that she and the other five once lived on Earth two thousand years ago.

The nature of these Cylons is clearly different from the other seven. In particular, Colonel Tigh's friendship with William Adama stretches back a long time, though not to the first Cylon War itself ([[Scattered]], [[Crossroads, Part II]])

These Cylons possess superhuman physical strength, like the Significant Seven models ([[The Ties That Bind]], [[Escape Velocity]]). Also, Galen Tyrol was less affected than his wife by decompression sickness ([[A Day in the Life]]). During the [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula]], Samuel Anders' right eye responded to a Cylon Raider's scan by flashing red ([[He That Believeth In Me]]). The Final Five are capable of [[projection]], of identifying Significant Seven copies by sight, and of being connected to a Cylon [[datastream]] ([[Deadlock]], [[Someone to Watch Over Me]], [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

[[Caprica-Six]] describes being "programmed" not to think of the Five ([[He That Believeth In Me]]).

When [[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|Downloaded Three]] takes control of the rebel Cylon baseship, she holds humans ransom, demanding the Colonials permit the remaining four Final Five Cylons to join her. She is aware that one Final Five member is no longer among the fleet. Although civilian Tory Foster flies to the baseship under the pretext of taking medication to the captive President, the three soldiers remain loyal to the Colonies. To change Three's equasion, Tigh admits his nature and presents himself for arrest. Waiting in an airlock for Three to capitulate, he identifies Anders and Tyrol to Acting President [[Lee Adama]] who has the two aprehended and brought to the airlock. In conjunction with the resulting alliance between Colonials and the rebel Cylons, Acting President Adama pardons all Cylons and releases them from custody. ([[Revelations]])

Though freed by Lee Adama, neither Tigh, Anders nor Tyrol wears rank insignia on his fatigue collars while surveying post-apocalyptic Earth and upon their return to Galactica. ("[[Revelations]]", "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]"). Anders, however, continues to wear insignia on his flight suit under his fatigue field jacket. Conversely, the human soldiers and Lt. [[Sharon Agathon]] wear their rank on their fatigues. Tigh continues to reside in his quarters and his sidearm has not been confiscated, but he is not shown to have resumed his rank and duties until the morning after Admiral Adama's drunken attempt to motivate Tigh to kill him. ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

The Final Five do not have the reproductive difficulties of the Seven. So far one of Final Five, Saul Tigh, has managed to sire progeny. Only two of the millions of Significant Seven copies: Sharon Agathon and Caprica-Six, have managed to bear children, and none of the countless male Significant Seven copies have sired children.

==The Fifth is revealed==
On the devastated [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] the Four have visions that confirm their origin, that had indeed lived there 2,000 years ago as part of the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]], a humanoid Cylon civilization, all killed in the nuclear holocaust. Unknown to any of them is how they all found themselves as Colonials in a star system light-years away, their memories of their past lives all but gone.

Wading in the dead waters of Earth shortly before the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] returns to space and an unknown future, Colonel Tigh stumbles upon a post box hatch. Handling the hatch, he experiences a vision of his short moments in the holocaust, hearing shouts from a woman trapped in the fallen debris of an apartment building. The face is unmistakable. The vision of [[Ellen Tigh]] tells him that "Everything is in place," that they all will be reborn again, together ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

Saul Tigh realizes then that his late wife, is the last of the Five, the last of the twelve humanoid Cylon archetypes ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]). Tigh informs only the "upper echelons" of Ellen's true nature, including Admiral [[William Adama]], former interim President [[Lee Adama]], Vice President [[Tom Zarek]], and President [[Laura Roslin]]. At a press conference on ''[[Colonial One]]'', Lee Adama informs the press, inadvertently, that the final Cylon is both a woman and believed to be dead, though he does not specifically identify Ellen by name ([[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]).

Ellen's true nature is later made public knowledge upon her return to the fleet ([[Deadlock]]).

==The story of the Final Five==
In [[No Exit]], the origin of the Five is revealed. Samuel Anders regains his Cylon memories after getting shot in the head and he reveals what he knows to Saul Tigh, Galen Tyrol, and Tory Foster, as well as [[Kara Thrace]]. The Final Five worked in a research facility on Earth. Saul and Ellen were married even back then and Tyrol and Tory were in love and planned to get married. What they were researching was a way to re-invent [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] technology. Organic memory transfer came from [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], but had fell out of use after the Thirteenth Tribe Cylons started to procreate. The Five worked night and day to rebuild it, spurred by apocalyptic warnings from [[Virtual beings#The Final Five's Virtual Beings|"the messengers"]]. Tyrol's work on the project was "amazing", but it was Ellen who made the intuitive leap that brought the system back online.

The Five then placed the technology and new bodies for them on a ship they placed in orbit around Earth. When they were all killed in the nuclear holocaust unleashed by Earth's mistreated [[Cylon Models#Earth Centurion Models|mechanical Cylons]], they were reborn in their new bodies on the ship in orbit. Realizing that the other Twelve Tribes would continue to create artificial life, they headed for the Colonies to tell the humans to treat their creations well and keep them close. Because their people hadn't developed [[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series|jump drives]], the Five's ship traveled at relativistic, but subluminal speed. Time slowed down for them, but thousands of years had passed. According to Ellen, they stopped at the [[Temple of Five|Temple of Hopes]] on their way to the Colonies, a temple that was created by their ancestors where they prayed and got a sign that led them to Earth. But Ellen said that the Five were not responsible for the vision that Number Three received of them, saying that it must have been orchestrated by [[God (RDM)|God]].

By the time they got to the Colonies, the humans were already at [[Cylon War|war]] with the [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]]. The Centurions were already trying to make flesh bodies. They had created the [[Hybrid]]s, but nothing that lived on its own, so the Five made a deal with them: they stop the war and the Five will help them create humanoid Cylons. The Centurions agreed and signed the [[Cimtar Peace Accord]] with humanity. The Five and the Centurions then withdrew to a mobile space station called [[The Colony]] placed beyond the [[Armistice Line]]. The Five and the Centurions apparently worked well together; the Five had learned to respect mechanical Cylons, and even adopted the Centurions' [[Cylon Religion|monotheistic beliefs]].

The Five developed the eight humanoid models and gave them resurrection technology. They created [[Number One]] first, named him John. He was named after Ellen's father and also made in his image. Number One later changed his name to Cavil as he hated the name John. Cavil helped the Five build the other seven humanoid models. Ellen was close to [[Number Seven]] (Daniel) and Cavil, out of jealousy, contaminated the amniotic fluid in which the Daniel copies were maturing and then corrupted the genetic formula. This wiped out the copies permanently, and as Anders said of Daniel: "he died", indicating that the original Daniel was lost as well.

Cavil rejected mercy. He had a twisted idea of morality and despised the Five for contaminating their creations with human weaknesses and Centurion religious ideals, so he turned on them. He trapped them in a compartment and then he took the oxygen offline. Cavil [[Boxing|boxed]] the Five at first but ultimately unboxed them and downloaded them into new bodies, blocking their true memories and implanting false ones, then introducing them one by one into the colonies. He introduced Saul first, not long after the war. And then Ellen. Cavil put the Five into the human population in order to truly show them what humans are like. He hoped that when they died and resurrected (which restores their real memories) they'd be ready to admit they were wrong. This is why they never knew who they really were. The truth behind the [[The Music|music]] that triggered their knowledge of their true selves has yet to be revealed.

Cavil erased all knowledge of their identities from his siblings and his was the only Cylon model that knew their identities afterwards, but he kept at least one new body for each of them to download into. When Ellen was killed by Saul, she downloaded into a new body on a [[Resurrection Ship]]. With the destruction of the [[Resurrection Hub|Hub]], the Five are the only ones who know how to rebuild resurrection technology, but Ellen claims it would take all five working together to rebuild it and even then she's not sure they could do it.

==Connections between the Colonial gods and Cylon god==

*The thirteenth tribe was a tribe of Cylons.
*The Temple of Five was built over 4,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. According to Colonial scriptures, "Five pillars of the temple were fashioned after the five priests devoted to the one whose name cannot be spoken".
*On [[New Caprica]], Number Three meets [[Dodona Selloi]], a human [[oracle]], who relays a message from Three's God, despite the oracle's association with the Lords of Kobol.
*With this information, there is a strong, but unexplained correlation or connection with the Cylon God and the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)#The Lords of Kobol|Lords of Kobol]].
*The thirteenth tribe were polytheistic and had a [[Temple of Aurora]] on their planet.

==Kara Thrace, The Eye of Jupiter, and the first Hybrid==

*The Eye of Jupiter storyline introduced an association between Kara Thrace, a human that [[Eye of Jupiter|"doodled" a circular image as a child]] with no prior derivation (her old apartment on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] has a painting of the image from the episode, "[[Valley of Darkness]]"), and the mandalas or icons of the eye that decorated a temple built 4,000 years before her birth. No further information is revealed other than the prophecy from [[Leoben Conoy]], who told Thrace of an [[The Destiny|unexplained "destiny"]] ([[Flesh and Bone]]).
*The [[first Hybrid]] gives a monologue about his knowledge of the Final Five in the extended version of "[[Razor]]". It states:

:"Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity and in the midst of confusion, he will find her. Enemies brought together by impossible longing. Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering."

:Its description predicts the internal revelation that four of the Five would experience in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" through "[[Revelations]]". The fifth and final Cylon remains hidden, longing to be forgiven for some type of trespass, but will experience suffering in the process.

*The first Hybrid also mentions Kara Thrace to [[Kendra Shaw]], claiming, "She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death..." as the end of the human race. He warns Shaw that the humans should not follow her ([[Razor]]). However, the Hybrid never confirms Thrace's nature. More than a year later, another [[Hybrid]] claims that Thrace will lead all of humanity to destruction ([[Faith]]).

==Illusion or truth==
*The Threes' hunt for and see visions of the Five, which leads to the other Cylons themselves [[boxing]] the entire line of Threes after her discovery, but whether this is done to suppress the notion or actual information of the final five or to relieve the other Cylons of an aberrant model is unclear.
**As of "[[The Hub]]" the single re-activated D'Anna is the only one who knows the identity of all five models, information she is keeping for use as a bargaining chip.
*Later, in dream visions of the [[Opera House]] shared by [[Laura Roslin]], [[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Caprica-Six]], the same 5 glowing figures seen by Three appear, along with the same chamber with six drapes, this time empty. Six sees them for a more prolonged period in a second vision.
*It may never be revealed what Baltar (or another human) would have seen. While Baltar believed Three and actively participated in her quest, both his virtual Six and a [[Hybrid]] noted that he, not Three, was intended to use the Temple's imaging mechanism as the "chosen one". The significance of the [[five priests]], [[The One Whose Name Cannot Be Spoken|the god they worshiped]], and their connections with the Cylons, Kara Thrace and Baltar are not yet explained.

==Notes==

* In the podcast for "[[Rapture]]", it is stated that the boxing of the Threes was the first time an entire model had been eliminated, implying that the Final Five were not [[boxing|boxed]]<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Rapture|act=4|id=firstboxing|timestamp=41:47|totalrunning=}}</ref>. In [[No Exit]], this assumption was established to be incorrect, as the Final Five were temporarily boxed before they were sent to the Colonies with false memories. The statement itself was also contradicted in the same episode, which established that Cavil destroyed the [[Number Seven]] line.
* During a Q&A session on the official Sci Fi channel ''Battlestar Galactica'' forum Ronald D. Moore notes that he already knows who the last Cylon is, and that he's already left clues as to who it is<ref>[http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2270103&st=0&p=3041263&#entry3041263 20 Answers - SCI FI FORUMS] Retrieved 03-27-2007</ref>.
* Despite the revelation of all of the Significant Seven's model numbers in "[[Six of One]]", [[Ron D. Moore]] confirmed that the Final Five '''do not''' have model numbers like the [[Significant Seven]].<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.thefutoncritic.com/rant.aspx?id=20080611|title=Rants & Reviews - Live at the "Battlestar Galactica" Midseason Finale Premiere|date=11 June 2008|accessdate=13 June 2008|last=Sullivan|first=Brian Ford|format=|language=}}</ref> This leaves it a mystery why there is no known humanoid model designated [[Number Seven]]. This is addressed in a [[No Exit|later episode]].

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Sexuality in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)

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Gordon Ecker: /* Other notes */ +engagement

: ''For sexuality depicted in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], see: [[Sexuality in Battlestar Galactica (TOS)]].''

'''Sexuality in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]''' mirrors sexuality in the real world, in terms of the presence of hetero-, homo- and bi-sexual relationships.

According to comments from [[Michael Taylor]], the Colonials do not make an emphasis "of the distinction between hetero- and homosexual preferences. I tend to think that in this respect, at least, they’re a bit more enlightened than we are."<ref name="thewatcher">{{cite_web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/11/answers-to-your.html|title=Answers to your 'Razor' questions and clues about 'Battlestar Galactica's' final season|date=16 November 2007|accessdate=16 November 2007|last=Ryan|first=Maureen|format=|language=}}</ref>

== Heterosexuality ==

[[Image:Billy and Jaycie.jpg|thumb|[[William Adama]] and [[Jaycie McGavin]] in coitus ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]

Relationships depicted in the series tend to be overwhelmingly heterosexual in nature. Amongst these relationships are:

* Relationships resulting in marriage
** [[Saul Tigh]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] (2,000 years in the past<ref>Tighs wear wedding rings in the flashback to the destruction of Earth at the end of "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]"</ref>, and again in series' present)
** [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Samuel Anders]]
** [[William Adama]] and [[Carolanne Adama]] ([[Miniseries]], "[[A Day in the Life]]")
** [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Tyrol ''neé'' Henderson]] and [[Galen Tyrol]]
** [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Lee Adama]]
** [[Romo Lampkin]] and [[Faye Lampkin]] ("[[The Son Also Rises]]", "[[Sine Qua Non]]")
** [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Sharon Agathon]]
** [[Sesha Abinell]] and [[Ray Abinell]] ([[Sacrifice]])
** [[Jurgen Belzen]] and [[Rika Belzen]] ([[Razor]])

* Relationships between consensual, unmarried persons
** Galen Tyrol and [[Sharon Valerii]]
** Lee Adama and [[Kara Thrace]] ("[[Scar]]")
** William Adama and [[Laura Roslin]] ("[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]"; previously implied in "[[A Day in the Life]], "[[Unfinished Business]]")
** William Adama and [[Jaycie McGavin]] ([[Razor Flashbacks]])
** [[Richard Adar]] and Laura Roslin ([[Epiphanies]])
** Samuel Anders and [[Tory Foster]] ([[Crossroads, Part II]])
** [[Billy Keikeya]] and Anastasia Dualla
** [[Enzo]] and [[Louanne Katraine]] ([[The Passage]])
** Saul Tigh and [[Caprica-Six]] [Tigh was presumed to be a widower, though his wife, Ellen, was later discovered alive]
** [[Cavil]] and Sharon Valerii
** [[Felix Gaeta]] and [[Number Eight#Sweet_Eight|Sweet Eight]]

* Sexual relationship between consensual adults while engaged in other sexual relationships
** [[Gaius Baltar]] and various female conquests such as [[Sherry Bennett]], [[Caprica Six]], [[Gina Inviere]], [[Number Three]], [[Kara Thrace]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Playa Palacios]], and an [[Unnamed characters (RDM)#Unnamed Lover|unidentified woman]] in the [[Miniseries]]. Baltar's ongoing relations with [[Virtual Six]] are difficult to define, but certainly involve a sexual aspect.
** Ellen Tigh and various men during her marriage to Saul Tigh ([[Miniseries]], "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", "[[Occupation]]", "[[Precipice]]")
** Ellen Tigh and a [[Number One|Cavil]] Cylon to secure Saul Tigh's release from prison.
** Lee Adama and Kara Thrace cheat on their respective spouses before ([[Unfinished Business]]) and after ("[[The Eye of Jupiter]]) getting married.
** Spec. [[Callandra Henderson]] with both Lt. [[Brendan Costanza]] and [[wikipedia:Senior Chief Petty Officer|SCPO]] [[Galen Tyrol]]; the former unknowingly sired [[Nicholas Tyrol|her child]], while the latter married her and was presumed to be the child's father. Both relationships were violative of fraternisation regulations and/or laws.
** Sharon Valerii seduces Karl Agathon under the guise of Sharon Agathon, while the latter watches helplessly, bound and gagged in a commode closet. ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).
** Saul Tigh with Ellen Tigh upon her return to the Fleet, while he (having been presumed widowed) is cohabitating with Caprica-Six who is carrying his foetus. Ellen recognises that he has added to his sexual repertoire during her absence.

== Homosexuality ==
[[Image:Cain and gina.jpg|thumb|right|[[Helena Cain]] dining with [[Gina Inviere]].]]
Homosexuality in the series was formally introduced in "[[Razor]]", with the revelation that [[Helena Cain]] and [[Gina Inviere]] were engaged in a lesbian relationship.

The revelation of the Cain-Inviere relationship does not seem to surprise ''Pegasus'' personnel. [[Kendra Shaw]] is slightly shocked, but more due to the surprise that Cain is dependent on anyone. [[Jurgen Belzen]] and [[Jack Fisk]] do not seem to be at all fazed or uncomfortable with this relationship during the formal dinner after the [[Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] (Razor). Therefore, this is in keeping with writer Michael Taylor's comments that "the point about Cain’s and Gina’s relationship is that the fact that they had a same-sex relationship was no big deal".<ref name="thewatcher"/>

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== Bisexuality ==

[[Image:Threesome.jpg|thumb|right|Caprica-Six, Three and Baltar sleeping ([[Hero]]).]]

Bisexuality has not been seen until "[[Hero]]", with the culmination of a [[w:ménage à trois|ménage à trois]] between [[Caprica Six]], [[Number Three]], and [[Gaius Baltar]]. It is uncertain how this is viewed in Colonial society, but since it is apparent that the Cylons model their behavior after their human creators, it is more than likely that sexual acts involving multiple partners is derived from Colonials.

Also, Gina Inviere can be considered bisexual due to her involvement with both Helena Cain and Gaius Baltar (at different times), though her relationship with Baltar is marred by the psychological effects of Inviere having been gang-raped on ''Pegasus''.

In the webisode series ''[[The Face of the Enemy]]'' [[Felix Gaeta]] is revealed to be in a relationship with [[Louis Hoshi]]. Flashbacks to [[New Caprica]] also show him being involved with a Number Eight. Gaeta's sexuality had been teased early on behind the scenes, notably with the [[Season 3 gag reel]] where [[Alessandro Juliani]] attempts to hit on a [[marine]] protecting [[James Callis]]'s [[Gaius Baltar]], and later appears to be having a sexual dream about "Gaius".

In an interview, [[Ronald D. Moore]] stated "We sort of always talked about the Cylons being basically bisexual in all formats. They didn’t really have gender roles within the twelve models kind of thing, but we never really played that idea out so I don’t know if we ever really established that as part of the mythos, but that was something we sort of talked about. We pretty much established that some of the Sixes, there was the Six that was in a relationship with Admiral Cain so we know that that’s part of some of the Sixes, whether that means that applies to all the Six models, we just never got into that depth, that kind of detailed stories of them." <ref name="cylons">{{cite_web|url=http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/ronald-moore-kevin-reilly-virtuality-star-trek|title=Scoop on "Virtuality", the first U.S. science fiction series to include gay characters|date=7 October 2008|accessdate=7 October 2008|last=Jensen|first=Michael|format=|language=}}</ref>

Moore also said that "We’re in the process now of starting to think about what ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' the series will be and what the storylines are and it is something that we’re talking about in our sort of nascent writers’ room where we have some people together and we’re just talking about what it could be and we are talking about it as an active thing, like okay, how can we work in gay, lesbian and bisexual storylines into this and that – it’s just not there yet, but it is part of the discussion."<ref name="cylons">{{cite_web|url=http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/ronald-moore-kevin-reilly-virtuality-star-trek|title=Scoop on "Virtuality", the first U.S. science fiction series to include gay characters|date=7 October 2008|accessdate=7 October 2008|last=Jensen|first=Michael|format=|language=}}</ref>

== Inter-racial and Inter-species ==

===Inter-racial/ethnic===
Although there are periodic mentions of prejudice between the quasi-castes of different colonies, no dialogue has indicated any taboo among Colonials regarding relationships between humans of different [real-world] ethnic or racial groups, nor even an acknowledgement of real-world ethnicity; each of the twelve colonies appears to be composed of a mixture of real-world human ethnicities.

In addition to the many inter-racial and inter-ethnic relationships not resulting in marriage, a full one half of the post-apocalypse marriages depicted are between spouses of different real-world races: African [[Anastasia Dualla]] and Caucasian [[Leland Adama]], and Korean [[Sharon Agathon]] (née Eight) and Caucasian [[Karl Agathon]] (''cf'' [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Samuel Anders]], and [[Callandra Tyrol]] (née Henderson) and [[Galen Tyrol]] [all four appear predominantly Caucasian]). Moreover, interbreeding between what would be real-world Caucasians and East Asians is presumably so commonplace that Dr. [[Cottle]] had a still-born Eurasian infant readilly available, to secretly switch with [[Hera Agathon]] on [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]]'s order.

===Inter-species===
*[[Ellen Tigh]] and various men
*[[Caprica-Six]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Gina Inviere]] and [[Helena Cain]]
*[[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Karl Agathon]]
*[[Samuel Anders]] and [[Kara Thrace]]
*[[Gina Inviere]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Cally Tyrol]]
*[[Number Eight|A Number Eight copy]] and [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|A Number Three copy]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Tory Foster]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Number Six#Lida|Lida]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]

Three of the four post-apocalypse marriages depicted are between humans and Cylons: Cylon [[Sharon Agathon]] (née Eight) and human [[Karl Agathon]], human [[Kara Thrace]] and Cylon [[Samuel Anders]], and human [[Callandra Tyrol]] (née Henderson) and Cylon [[Galen Tyrol]]. Of the three, the Agathons were the only marriage entered into while both (or either) spouse was consciously aware that one was a Cylon. The only post-apocalypse marriage shown between humans is that of [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Leland Adama]]. The only pre-apocalypse marriage depicted as surviving both the Cylons and Adm. Cain is that between [[Final Five]] Cylons [[Ellen Tigh]] and [[Saul Tigh]].

== Practices ==
Multiple real-world coitus positions have been depicted, including female superior (a.k.a. "cowgirl")<ref>Caprica-Six mounts Baltar thus in the [[Miniseries]]</ref> and the so-called missionary position<ref>Baltar is shown atop Kara Thrace in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]", and Tory Foster in [[Faith]], Lee Adama is shown climbing off of Thrace in "[[Unfinished Business]]", ''et al''.</ref>

Heterosexual felatio among Colonials is implied by Laura Roslin's statement to Tory Foster, "I don't really care if you have to spend the night on your knees praying, or just on your knees. I want a name." ("[[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]")

== Other notes ==

* The religious controversy surrounding [[Rya Kibby]]'s abortion suggest that the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|Colonial faith]] (or the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Gemenon|Gemenese]] interpretation thereof) contains doctrine pertaining to sexuality, possibly in a similar fashion to many real world religions ([[The Captain's Hand]]).

* The presence of [[w:child prostitution|child prostitution]] under [[Phelan]]'s [[black market (organization)|black market]] indicates the presence of pedophilia within Colonial society. The practice of child prostitution is viewed with loathing disdain by Colonials such as Lee Adama, who ultimately kills Phelan after discovering this practice aboard ''[[Prometheus]]'' ([[Black Market]]).

* Prostitution is legal in Colonial society, with consenting adult women such as [[Shevon]] offering their services to adult men such as Lee Adama (Black Market).

* In addition, the Colonials have pornographic material like ''[[Nymph]]'' ([[Scar]]), although it is uncertain whether or not pornography is viewed in the same controversial light as it is in [[w:United States|America]] and some other cultures.

* The spines of some [[Humanoid Cylon|humanoid Cylons]] have been seen to emit a red glow during copulation.<ref>Caprica Six is shown glowing atop Baltar in the [[Miniseries]], Sharon Agathon is shown glowing atop Helo in [[Six Degrees of Separation]] and writer commentary for [[The Face of the Enemy]] confirms that Sweet Eight similarly glowed while mating with Felix Gaeta on New Caprica.</ref> It is unclear whether or not this is visible to the human eye and could be used to detect Cylons. Nevertheless the real-world metaphorical use of the term "glowing" is used by Colonials to describe women sexually satisfied and/or in love.<ref>Laura Roslin refering to Tory Foster in "[[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]", Felix Gaeta refering to Anastasia Dualla in "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]".</ref>

* Marriage and engagement are practiced in the [[Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]], and was practiced by the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] on [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. In the Colonies, marriage vows are considered sacred oaths. There is no evidence of any similar practices among the [[Significant Seven|modern Cylons]].

== References ==

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[[Category: A to Z]]
[[Category: Colonial Society]]
[[Category: Colonial Society (RDM)]]
[[Category: RDM]]

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Sexuality in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)

2009-03-20T00:13:59Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Other notes */ marriage

: ''For sexuality depicted in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], see: [[Sexuality in Battlestar Galactica (TOS)]].''

'''Sexuality in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]''' mirrors sexuality in the real world, in terms of the presence of hetero-, homo- and bi-sexual relationships.

According to comments from [[Michael Taylor]], the Colonials do not make an emphasis "of the distinction between hetero- and homosexual preferences. I tend to think that in this respect, at least, they’re a bit more enlightened than we are."<ref name="thewatcher">{{cite_web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/11/answers-to-your.html|title=Answers to your 'Razor' questions and clues about 'Battlestar Galactica's' final season|date=16 November 2007|accessdate=16 November 2007|last=Ryan|first=Maureen|format=|language=}}</ref>

== Heterosexuality ==

[[Image:Billy and Jaycie.jpg|thumb|[[William Adama]] and [[Jaycie McGavin]] in coitus ([[Razor Flashbacks]]).]]

Relationships depicted in the series tend to be overwhelmingly heterosexual in nature. Amongst these relationships are:

* Relationships resulting in marriage
** [[Saul Tigh]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] (2,000 years in the past<ref>Tighs wear wedding rings in the flashback to the destruction of Earth at the end of "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]"</ref>, and again in series' present)
** [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Samuel Anders]]
** [[William Adama]] and [[Carolanne Adama]] ([[Miniseries]], "[[A Day in the Life]]")
** [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Tyrol ''neé'' Henderson]] and [[Galen Tyrol]]
** [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Lee Adama]]
** [[Romo Lampkin]] and [[Faye Lampkin]] ("[[The Son Also Rises]]", "[[Sine Qua Non]]")
** [[Karl Agathon]] and [[Sharon Agathon]]
** [[Sesha Abinell]] and [[Ray Abinell]] ([[Sacrifice]])
** [[Jurgen Belzen]] and [[Rika Belzen]] ([[Razor]])

* Relationships between consensual, unmarried persons
** Galen Tyrol and [[Sharon Valerii]]
** Lee Adama and [[Kara Thrace]] ("[[Scar]]")
** William Adama and [[Laura Roslin]] ("[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]"; previously implied in "[[A Day in the Life]], "[[Unfinished Business]]")
** William Adama and [[Jaycie McGavin]] ([[Razor Flashbacks]])
** [[Richard Adar]] and Laura Roslin ([[Epiphanies]])
** Samuel Anders and [[Tory Foster]] ([[Crossroads, Part II]])
** [[Billy Keikeya]] and Anastasia Dualla
** [[Enzo]] and [[Louanne Katraine]] ([[The Passage]])
** Saul Tigh and [[Caprica-Six]] [Tigh was presumed to be a widower, though his wife, Ellen, was later discovered alive]
** [[Cavil]] and Sharon Valerii
** [[Felix Gaeta]] and [[Number Eight#Sweet_Eight|Sweet Eight]]

* Sexual relationship between consensual adults while engaged in other sexual relationships
** [[Gaius Baltar]] and various female conquests such as [[Sherry Bennett]], [[Caprica Six]], [[Gina Inviere]], [[Number Three]], [[Kara Thrace]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Playa Palacios]], and an [[Unnamed characters (RDM)#Unnamed Lover|unidentified woman]] in the [[Miniseries]]. Baltar's ongoing relations with [[Virtual Six]] are difficult to define, but certainly involve a sexual aspect.
** Ellen Tigh and various men during her marriage to Saul Tigh ([[Miniseries]], "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]", "[[Occupation]]", "[[Precipice]]")
** Ellen Tigh and a [[Number One|Cavil]] Cylon to secure Saul Tigh's release from prison.
** Lee Adama and Kara Thrace cheat on their respective spouses before ([[Unfinished Business]]) and after ("[[The Eye of Jupiter]]) getting married.
** Spec. [[Callandra Henderson]] with both Lt. [[Brendan Costanza]] and [[wikipedia:Senior Chief Petty Officer|SCPO]] [[Galen Tyrol]]; the former unknowingly sired [[Nicholas Tyrol|her child]], while the latter married her and was presumed to be the child's father. Both relationships were violative of fraternisation regulations and/or laws.
** Sharon Valerii seduces Karl Agathon under the guise of Sharon Agathon, while the latter watches helplessly, bound and gagged in a commode closet. ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).
** Saul Tigh with Ellen Tigh upon her return to the Fleet, while he (having been presumed widowed) is cohabitating with Caprica-Six who is carrying his foetus. Ellen recognises that he has added to his sexual repertoire during her absence.

== Homosexuality ==
[[Image:Cain and gina.jpg|thumb|right|[[Helena Cain]] dining with [[Gina Inviere]].]]
Homosexuality in the series was formally introduced in "[[Razor]]", with the revelation that [[Helena Cain]] and [[Gina Inviere]] were engaged in a lesbian relationship.

The revelation of the Cain-Inviere relationship does not seem to surprise ''Pegasus'' personnel. [[Kendra Shaw]] is slightly shocked, but more due to the surprise that Cain is dependent on anyone. [[Jurgen Belzen]] and [[Jack Fisk]] do not seem to be at all fazed or uncomfortable with this relationship during the formal dinner after the [[Fall of the Scorpion Fleet Shipyards]] (Razor). Therefore, this is in keeping with writer Michael Taylor's comments that "the point about Cain’s and Gina’s relationship is that the fact that they had a same-sex relationship was no big deal".<ref name="thewatcher"/>

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== Bisexuality ==

[[Image:Threesome.jpg|thumb|right|Caprica-Six, Three and Baltar sleeping ([[Hero]]).]]

Bisexuality has not been seen until "[[Hero]]", with the culmination of a [[w:ménage à trois|ménage à trois]] between [[Caprica Six]], [[Number Three]], and [[Gaius Baltar]]. It is uncertain how this is viewed in Colonial society, but since it is apparent that the Cylons model their behavior after their human creators, it is more than likely that sexual acts involving multiple partners is derived from Colonials.

Also, Gina Inviere can be considered bisexual due to her involvement with both Helena Cain and Gaius Baltar (at different times), though her relationship with Baltar is marred by the psychological effects of Inviere having been gang-raped on ''Pegasus''.

In the webisode series ''[[The Face of the Enemy]]'' [[Felix Gaeta]] is revealed to be in a relationship with [[Louis Hoshi]]. Flashbacks to [[New Caprica]] also show him being involved with a Number Eight. Gaeta's sexuality had been teased early on behind the scenes, notably with the [[Season 3 gag reel]] where [[Alessandro Juliani]] attempts to hit on a [[marine]] protecting [[James Callis]]'s [[Gaius Baltar]], and later appears to be having a sexual dream about "Gaius".

In an interview, [[Ronald D. Moore]] stated "We sort of always talked about the Cylons being basically bisexual in all formats. They didn’t really have gender roles within the twelve models kind of thing, but we never really played that idea out so I don’t know if we ever really established that as part of the mythos, but that was something we sort of talked about. We pretty much established that some of the Sixes, there was the Six that was in a relationship with Admiral Cain so we know that that’s part of some of the Sixes, whether that means that applies to all the Six models, we just never got into that depth, that kind of detailed stories of them." <ref name="cylons">{{cite_web|url=http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/ronald-moore-kevin-reilly-virtuality-star-trek|title=Scoop on "Virtuality", the first U.S. science fiction series to include gay characters|date=7 October 2008|accessdate=7 October 2008|last=Jensen|first=Michael|format=|language=}}</ref>

Moore also said that "We’re in the process now of starting to think about what ''[[Caprica (series)|Caprica]]'' the series will be and what the storylines are and it is something that we’re talking about in our sort of nascent writers’ room where we have some people together and we’re just talking about what it could be and we are talking about it as an active thing, like okay, how can we work in gay, lesbian and bisexual storylines into this and that – it’s just not there yet, but it is part of the discussion."<ref name="cylons">{{cite_web|url=http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/ronald-moore-kevin-reilly-virtuality-star-trek|title=Scoop on "Virtuality", the first U.S. science fiction series to include gay characters|date=7 October 2008|accessdate=7 October 2008|last=Jensen|first=Michael|format=|language=}}</ref>

== Inter-racial and Inter-species ==

===Inter-racial/ethnic===
Although there are periodic mentions of prejudice between the quasi-castes of different colonies, no dialogue has indicated any taboo among Colonials regarding relationships between humans of different [real-world] ethnic or racial groups, nor even an acknowledgement of real-world ethnicity; each of the twelve colonies appears to be composed of a mixture of real-world human ethnicities.

In addition to the many inter-racial and inter-ethnic relationships not resulting in marriage, a full one half of the post-apocalypse marriages depicted are between spouses of different real-world races: African [[Anastasia Dualla]] and Caucasian [[Leland Adama]], and Korean [[Sharon Agathon]] (née Eight) and Caucasian [[Karl Agathon]] (''cf'' [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Samuel Anders]], and [[Callandra Tyrol]] (née Henderson) and [[Galen Tyrol]] [all four appear predominantly Caucasian]). Moreover, interbreeding between what would be real-world Caucasians and East Asians is presumably so commonplace that Dr. [[Cottle]] had a still-born Eurasian infant readilly available, to secretly switch with [[Hera Agathon]] on [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]]'s order.

===Inter-species===
*[[Ellen Tigh]] and various men
*[[Caprica-Six]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Gina Inviere]] and [[Helena Cain]]
*[[Sharon Agathon]] and [[Karl Agathon]]
*[[Samuel Anders]] and [[Kara Thrace]]
*[[Gina Inviere]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Cally Tyrol]]
*[[Number Eight|A Number Eight copy]] and [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|A Number Three copy]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Tory Foster]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]
*[[Number Six#Lida|Lida]] and [[Gaius Baltar]]

Three of the four post-apocalypse marriages depicted are between humans and Cylons: Cylon [[Sharon Agathon]] (née Eight) and human [[Karl Agathon]], human [[Kara Thrace]] and Cylon [[Samuel Anders]], and human [[Callandra Tyrol]] (née Henderson) and Cylon [[Galen Tyrol]]. Of the three, the Agathons were the only marriage entered into while both (or either) spouse was consciously aware that one was a Cylon. The only post-apocalypse marriage shown between humans is that of [[Anastasia Dualla]] and [[Leland Adama]]. The only pre-apocalypse marriage depicted as surviving both the Cylons and Adm. Cain is that between [[Final Five]] Cylons [[Ellen Tigh]] and [[Saul Tigh]].

== Practices ==
Multiple real-world coitus positions have been depicted, including female superior (a.k.a. "cowgirl")<ref>Caprica-Six mounts Baltar thus in the [[Miniseries]]</ref> and the so-called missionary position<ref>Baltar is shown atop Kara Thrace in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]", and Tory Foster in [[Faith]], Lee Adama is shown climbing off of Thrace in "[[Unfinished Business]]", ''et al''.</ref>

Heterosexual felatio among Colonials is implied by Laura Roslin's statement to Tory Foster, "I don't really care if you have to spend the night on your knees praying, or just on your knees. I want a name." ("[[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]")

== Other notes ==

* The religious controversy surrounding [[Rya Kibby]]'s abortion suggest that the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|Colonial faith]] (or the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Gemenon|Gemenese]] interpretation thereof) contains doctrine pertaining to sexuality, possibly in a similar fashion to many real world religions ([[The Captain's Hand]]).

* The presence of [[w:child prostitution|child prostitution]] under [[Phelan]]'s [[black market (organization)|black market]] indicates the presence of pedophilia within Colonial society. The practice of child prostitution is viewed with loathing disdain by Colonials such as Lee Adama, who ultimately kills Phelan after discovering this practice aboard ''[[Prometheus]]'' ([[Black Market]]).

* Prostitution is legal in Colonial society, with consenting adult women such as [[Shevon]] offering their services to adult men such as Lee Adama (Black Market).

* In addition, the Colonials have pornographic material like ''[[Nymph]]'' ([[Scar]]), although it is uncertain whether or not pornography is viewed in the same controversial light as it is in [[w:United States|America]] and some other cultures.

* The spines of some [[Humanoid Cylon|humanoid Cylons]] have been seen to emit a red glow during copulation.<ref>Caprica Six is shown glowing atop Baltar in the [[Miniseries]], Sharon Agathon is shown glowing atop Helo in [[Six Degrees of Separation]] and writer commentary for [[The Face of the Enemy]] confirms that Sweet Eight similarly glowed while mating with Felix Gaeta on New Caprica.</ref> It is unclear whether or not this is visible to the human eye and could be used to detect Cylons. Nevertheless the real-world metaphorical use of the term "glowing" is used by Colonials to describe women sexually satisfied and/or in love.<ref>Laura Roslin refering to Tory Foster in "[[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]", Felix Gaeta refering to Anastasia Dualla in "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]".</ref>

* Marriage is practiced in the [[Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]], and was practiced by the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] on [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. In the Colonies, marriage vows are considered sacred oaths. There is no evidence of any similar practices among the [[Significant Seven|modern Cylons]].

== References ==

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[[Category: A to Z]]
[[Category: Colonial Society]]
[[Category: Colonial Society (RDM)]]
[[Category: RDM]]

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Talk:Sexuality in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)/Archive 1

2009-03-19T05:46:35Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Cylons */ new section

== Bisexual vs. bi-sexual ==
You do have <code>hetero- and homosexual preferences</code> elsewhere, though. That's also the correct syntax in Dutch (dunno, about English). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:56, 4 December 2007 (CST)
: In the first sentence, "hetero-", "homo-" and "bi-" are all prefixes to the word "sexual", and thus should be written in that matter, since the hyphen is a "[http://www.editingandwritingservices.com/SuspendedHyphens.html suspended hyphen]". -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 16:19, 4 December 2007 (CST)
::From my reading, the suspended hyphens rule only applies to words that would have the hyphen when used by themselves as well: <code>post-war</code> has a hyphen regardless of whether it's combined as <code>pre- and post-war</code>. The same is true for <code>thirty-year mortgages</code> and all other examples given at the link. <code>Bisexual</code>, <code>homosexual</code> and <code>heterosexual</code> are not hyphenated, though, so that's why I think it should be <code>hetero-, homo- and bisexual</code>. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:32, 5 December 2007 (CST)

Now, technically, the hyphen should be consistent throughout, but I didn't have time to copyedit this since the wiki's been running slow and I didn't care to lose my work. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 16:19, 4 December 2007 (CST)

== POV real template breakage ==
The "Real point of view" message is positioned underneath the first sentence in my browser (Firefox 2). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:56, 4 December 2007 (CST)
:The template has been broken for a good while now. It's also showing at the place where it's added in the article, instead of a fixed position regardless of its place in the code (at least the last time I checked). I brought it up on its talk page once, but was told that it wasn't completed yet...which can't be entirely right. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:23, 4 December 2007 (CST)
:Try a hard refresh. It should be to the right of the title header now. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 16:42, 4 December 2007 (CST)

== Redirects ==

Maybe we should redirect "queer", etc, here and spoil Toton's next paper. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:10, 22 December 2007 (CST)
: Well, we have "queer" redirecting to the general Sexuality disambiguation, which is enough. People can figure out the rest from there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 13:14, 22 December 2007 (CST)
:You could redirect it to [[Felix Gaeta]] for laughs ;) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:25, 22 December 2007 (CST)
:: Or let's not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:39, 22 December 2007 (CST)

== Threesome picture ==

If we could have a picture of the threesome aboard the Pornostar Baltaria, that would round out the article in terms of pictures. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 11:54, 4 February 2008 (CST)
:I could take a screenshot, but it would be from a low quality AVI rip. No one here seems to have the R2 DVDs. Does anyone have the episodes on iTunes perhaps? There are two promotional pictures. [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=200&pos=0 This] one only shows two however, and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=200&pos=3 this] one was cut.
:Also, if you watch the scene again, there isn't actually a shot showing all three of them in bed. It's mostly Three standing up and looking down at Baltar and Six. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:12, 4 February 2008 (CST)
:: Ah, I was under the impression that there was. (It has been a while since I've watched any S3 episodes, so I'm working from memory.) I figure a shot of her looking over them in bed would work... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:16, 4 February 2008 (CST)
:::Oh wait. I was looking at "The Passage" :/ Duh! But it's seen for the first time in "Hero". Sorry. I can get a pic from that. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:01, 4 February 2008 (CST)

Small note about the picture placement. It's not that important here, because there is only one picture, but I deliberately placed it above the header since that cuts down drastically on the empty space when using div clears. Otherwise, the pictures are just displayed too far down. I found that works very well on [[CIC]] and [[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]]. The pictures still clearly belong to their respective sections. It messes up section editing somewhat, but I feel that that is outweighed by the better looks. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:40, 4 February 2008 (CST)

: Ah, thanks for explaining that. :) I'm not too particularly concerned about it either, but I felt it looked better after the section header myself. If someone wants to change it back, that's fine. You'll have no objections from me. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:47, 4 February 2008 (CST)
::Nah, it's ok here. For me, it only becomes annoying when you have many pictures after another together with smaller sections of text. Though that might also have to do with using a widescreen monitor. It might actually look better in lower resolutions, since the text would be longer. Plus, here the next section is "notes", so some whitespace before it makes sense. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:53, 4 February 2008 (CST)

== Minor nitpick: "spending the night" ==

It's been a while since I've watched the episode in question, but does "night" and "day" have any meaning on a basestar? For all we know, they had their threesome during mid-afternoon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:32, 4 February 2008 (CST)
:Technically you're right, but as a non-literal saying it still works IMO. However, they are clearly sleeping and Three wakes up from a nightmare. Of course they might sleep during the day and be up during the night (the ship would indeed probably have an artificial day/night cycle), but that doesn't matter that much here. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:38, 4 February 2008 (CST)
::Well on a battlestar, it's even worse as you'd have shifts: there's bound to be a whole group of people who get up at 1900 every day and go to bed around 1100 (and all kinds of variations in between, of course). So the "Good ''morning'', Lieutenant" thing in [[Water]] is kind of pointless too, since Boomer might very well have a reason to be up at 0545. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:46, 4 February 2008 (CST)

== Cylons ==

IMO the Cylons should get their own section due to cultural differences. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 05:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:The Colony/Archive 1

2009-03-19T05:39:20Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Answer to ponder */

== Answer to ponder ==

I was going to put these in the page, but they seem too long... maybe they could be trimmed up a bit? [[User:Tanketai|tanketai]] 16:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

*Since the colony is in a close orbit with a black hole, how are the colonies biological components affected by the massive amount of radiation put out by it?
**Actually, the black hole itself doesn't put out any radiation (hence the name); what radiates brightly is it's accretion disk. HOWEVER, the accretion disk doesn't radiate all the time - only when it's matter is falling into and being accelerated by the black hole. The situation displayed could possibly be a stable accretion disk: it's matter being locked in a orbit around the black hole, but not falling into it. Seems logical to think so, as the ammount of material and gravitational stresses would be an effective protection to the colony.

*When the colony was shown in one scene in [[Daybreak, Part I]], it appeared to be anchored to an asteroid. What function does this serve?
**It could provide a stable orbit, or even raw materials to mine.

*Although the colony must have had obsolete technology and served no purpose but to be a storage facility for the final fives' lab, why was the colony moved at the beginning of the [[Cylon Civil War]]?
**Even though it has old Raiders, it is not necessarily obsolete; it is the Cylon's headquarters.
:The Twos, Sixes and non-Boomer Eights didn't know about it until Ellen told them, so it couldn't have been their headquarters when those models were activated. It's possible that the equipment is too bulky or fragile to move. Also, even if Cylon technology has advanced dramatically since the Colony was abandoned, they probably don't have any spare colossal FTL-capable structures lying around, the Colony's sheer bulk could make it more durable than a smaller structure made of superior materials, such as a Basestar, and constructing or growing a more defensible facility to relocate the equipment to could take a while. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 05:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Questions to ponder ==

I deleted these from the article page per [[BW:SAC|conventions]], but they deserve to be placed here for pondering. Extended discussions of these should go to the Battlestar Forum, please. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 00:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Open Questions

* Who besides [[Cavil]] and Ellen knows about this place?
** Is [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] aware of it?
** Are the [[Significant Seven]] aware of it?
* Is "The Colony" the correct name? At least this spelling was used by writer [[Jane Espenson]]. <ref name="espenson">{{cite web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-no-exit-ellen-cavil-boomer.html |title= You asked, they answered: 'Battlestar Galactica' writers take on your 'No Exit' questions |date=2009-02-16 |last=Espenson |first=Jane |format= |language=English |publisher=Chicago Tribune}}</ref>
* Where exactly is "The Colony"? In Cylon-governed space?
** May it be the Cylon name for the [[Cylon homeworld]]?
** Could it be Earth? The colony set up by the the [[Thirteenth_Tribe_(RDM)|13th tribe]] after they left [[Kobol]]?
* Is it really a colony or not?<ref name="espenson"/>
** If it is really a colony, is it possibly founded or inhabited by people from [[Earth]]? Or descendants/incarnations of the [[Final Five]]? Or by copies of the [[Significant Seven]]? Or is it uninhabited?
** Or might it be the name of a ship, maybe the ship of the [[Final Five]]?

User:Gordon Ecker

2009-03-18T02:26:49Z

Gordon Ecker:

==Speculation on [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]==
{{spoiler}}

===Plausible speculation===
*It appears that, in season 3, everything that's happened to [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] since his election has served (from a dramatic or storytelling perspective) to strip away his arrogance. Particularly the suicide attempt provoked by [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Baltar's Internal Six|internal Six]] in [[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]. -- 21:08, 30 January 2007 (CST)
*In [[Exodus, Part I]] it was mentioned that the Cylons are stretching their resources thin. I suspect that the Cylons are at either in a civil war (likely between the earlier and later models, although possibly between two divergent branches) or at war with some other civilization. I suspect that they destroyed the Twelve Colonies because they were paranoid about the possibility of fighting a war on two fronts. -- 21:56, 30 January 2007 (CST)
*The five priests of the One Whose Name Cannot be Spoken aren't the [[final five]], but they may have been the previous cycle's equivalent of Cylons. -- 00:43, 1 February 2007 (CST) (correct)
*<s>Apparently four of the [[final five]] will be revealed in the season finale. If Baltar is a Cylon, I strongly suspect that he will be convicted, executed and then wake up in a [[Cylon rebirthing tank]] surrounded by three other Cylon models.</s> -- 02:00, 5 February 2007 (CST) false
**If he is not a Cylon, Baltar will survive due to acquittal, a jailbreak, bribes or extortion. -- 02:21, 20 March 2007 (CDT) (true, except possibly the "not a Cylon" part)
*Although they can produce spare bodies, the humanoid Cylons lack the technology to produce new humanoid models, and may even be unable to make more copies of existing models. -- 16:10, 3 March 2007 (CST)
*Starbuck is a Cylon. -- 22:45, 6 March 2007 (CST)
*Based on his accent in the preview, [[Romo Lampkin]] is probably from [[Aerelon]]. (Not quite refuted in [[Sine Qua Non]], he could've emigrated from Aerelon like Baltar). -- 23:39, 10 March 2007 (CST)
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] has stated that there are already hints in aired episodes pointing to the last member of the final five. Based on this statement, I believe that, as of Crossroads, Part II, the only three remaining Cylon candidates are [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Kara Thrace]] <s>and [[Laura Roslin]]</s>. -- 00:52, 28 March 2007 (CDT) (Roslin's been eliminated by the Frak Party podcast)
**And [[Tom Zarek]]. -- 05:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*If one of the [[Final Five]] dies, their consciousness will be transmitted to the nearest Resurrection Ship. It is likely that this will result in either transmission to the nearest resurrection facility with an appropriate body (either on the Cylon homeworld or in one of the hypothetical Final Five fleet's resurrection ships) or the boxing of the consciousness and an error message transmitted up the Cylon hierarchy. -- 01:23, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
**Moot as of the Hub, although they could have their own resurrection network. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Gina's "Trust me, in the end, we're all just human" line from [[Razor]] is ''extremely'' significant. -- 00:57, 25 June 2007 (CDT)
**Supported by dialogue in the Hub. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Guardians are still around. -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
*<s>The Ones, Fours and Fives will be boxed.</s> -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
**<s>After the Threes are unboxed (which has already been revealed in spoilers), the other models may be unboxed due to Natalie's faction comprising a larger voting bloc.</s> -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
*[[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] will join [[Natalie]]'s faction. -- 03:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
**Not quite disproven yet, she could've made it out. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC) (and she did)
*One of the Final Five, probably [[Galen Tyrol]], will make at least one suicide attempt. -- 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
**Arguably correct, Tigh's behaviour in Revelations was suicidal. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*One of the Final Five will die. -- 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
*The [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] is the tribe of [[w:Ophiuchus|Ophiuchus / Serpentarius]]. -- 04:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
**There will be more [[w:serpent (symbolism)|serpent-related symbolism]] connected to the Thirteenth Tribe and / or Earth. -- 04:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
*Based on some scenes in [[The Hub]] and Caprica-Six's pregnancy [[Sine Qua Non]], Helo is now a Cylon candidate. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*The love requirement is a failsafe to prevent Cylons from breeding in the wrong circumstances. -- 02:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
*The [[Resurrection Hub]] is irreplacable because it was already complete when the Significant Seven went online and they don't know the details of its' construction. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC) (confirmed in [[No Exit]])
*Even if the Final Five lack numbers, there is or was a Number Seven. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC) (confirmed in [[No Exit]])
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because the last Cylon was among those on the Basestar at the start of [[Revelations]]. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because she doesn't know who the last Cylon is. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because she unknowingly killed the last Cylon, probably on New Caprica. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*Cavil's faction will find Earth. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Ones will not believe that Natalie's faction has identified four of the Final Five. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Thirteenth Tribe had a civil war on Earth. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC) (correct)
*<s>There are survivors of the Thirteenth Tribe on Earth, but they are in a dark age. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)</s> (wrong)
*[[The Music]] was coming from [[Starbuck's Viper]]. -- 03:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[Ben Stark]], [[Tamara Adama]] and [[Zoe Graystone]] are still around in some form. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
*Based on The Face of the Enemy and the some of the clips from YooWillKnowTheTruth, Gaeta is also a likely Cylon candidate. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*<s>The Hybrids are the Sevens. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)</s>
*The Ones wiped out the old Centurions. -- 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*The other Cylon faction has been taking some Twos, Sixes and Eights as prisoners. -- 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*The Ones are responsible for modern Cylons' reproductive difficulties. -- 02:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
*The Cylon rebels will win by telling the Fours and Fives what we've known about the Ones since [[No Exit]]. -- 02:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
**Cavil will respond with an unsuccessful attempt to spin his secret actions as being in the best interests of the species. -- 02:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

===Wild speculation===
*If Baltar is not one of the [[Final Five]] then he's half-Cylon like [[Hera]], which would push the origin of humanoid Cylons back by 2 or 3 decades. -- 00:43, 1 February 2007 (CST) (more plausible now that the origin of the humanoid Cylons has been pushed back to the Cylon war)
**If Baltar is half-Cylon, the most likely candidate for his father is [[Saul Tigh]], as he is old enough and from Aerelon. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
**Kara is also a likely half-Cylon candidate. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*If the Cylons have an equivalent of the [[Imperious Leader]], it is probably a network of [[Hybrid]]s and similar Cylon supercomputers, however most short-term decisions are delegated to the humanoid models. -- 02:07, 6 February 2007 (CST)
**The Cylons may also have a collective consciousness. A distributed network based on swarm intelligence, connected thorugh the datastream. The network as a whole may not be sane, and may not even be self-aware. Internal Six, Internal Baltar and Kara's dreams and hallucinations of Leoben may be subroutines of the Cylon network. -- 22:45, 6 March 2007 (CST) (more plausible after the events in Crossroads, which suggest some form of involuntary or subconscious communication)
*Baltar died in the nuclear blast on Caprica, got resurrected and subconsciously blocked out the memories which contradicted his cover identity. -- 01:38, 28 February 2007 (CST) (increasingly unlikely, but not quite ruled out yet)
*In at least some of the previous cycles the Cylons (or their conterparts) wiped out the humans of the Twelve Colonies (or their counterparts) and interbred with the humans of Earth. Every modern human has at least a small amount of Cylon (or Cylon counterpart) ancestry. -- 01:48, 28 February 2007 (CST)
*Of the Final Five, at least one is obvious (such as Baltar or Starbuck), one is unexpected (such as an Adama, Saul Tigh or Cally), one is unheard of (a new character) and one was presumed dead (such as Kat, Ellen Tigh or Billy Keikeya). There could be some overlap between the categories. -- 00:31, 2 March 2007 (CST) (so far we've got Saul Tigh, who is unexpected, and Galen Tyrol, who is both obvious due to [[The Eye of Jupiter]] and [[Rapture]] and unexpected because he has a child, if Kara Thrace is a Cylon she would count as both obvious and presumed dead)
*<s>Maelstrom will have a scene in which Starbuck wakes up in a rebirthing tank and kills Leoben, although it may be in a dream. -- 00:34, 2 March 2007 (CST)</s> False
*As the "chosen one", Baltar was destined to see the [[final five]] in the [[Temple of Five]]. [[Number Three]] managed to usurp his destiny, with significant consequences. This means that [[Sacred Scrolls#The Cycle of Time|The Cycle of Time]] is not absolute and destiny can be resisted, although not without a cost. -- 00:52, 10 March 2007 (CST)
**Fighting destiny will be a major theme of [[season 4 (2008)|season 4]]. -- 23:04, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
***Kara Thrace will ultimately reject [[The Destiny|her destiny]]. -- 02:14, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*There is at least one [[Saul Tigh]] copy in the fleet with a younger, more recently grown body. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
*All twelve of the humanoid Cylon models were around during the Cylon War, and some or all of them may have been around earlier. [[Saul Tigh]] is part of the first "production run", most of the other copies we've seen (and most of the humanoid Cylon population) were "mass produced" a few years prior to the invasion, and [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Tory Foster]] were created during or slightly before the pre-invasion "production run". These "Cylon elders" from the early production run(s) are likely candidates for the Cylon leadership. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
*Laura Roslin is a Cylon, but is not one of the Twelve. Either she is a prototype, in which case her declining health is due to design flaws, or she is a Cylon from the previous cycle, in which case her declining health is due to mutations accumulated over dozens of generations of cloning. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*<s>Based on the preview for [[Revelations]], William Adama could be a Cylon.</s> -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC) false
*<s>The Hybrids are the Sevens, the unrevealed Final Five model. -- 01:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)</s>
*Kara Thrace is the dying leader. -- 22:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
*There is a Cylon version of William Adama. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
**And the original William Adama died during or before the Cylon War. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
*[[Pythia]] was a member of the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]]. -- 00:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**Pythia is one of the Final Five. -- 06:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Hybrids are based on Pythia's genetic template. -- 06:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Lords of Kobol are heavily mythologized versions of the Thirtheenth Tribe's Cylon models. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Ones / Cavils are Zeus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Ones / Cavils are The One Whose Name Cannot Be Spoken. -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Twos / Leobens are Apollo. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Threes / D'Annas is Hera. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Fours / Simons are Asclepius or Hephasteus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Sixes is Aphrodite. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Eights is Athena. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**Saul Tigh is Ares. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**If Kara Thrace is a Cylon, she is Aurora. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**If Gaius Baltar is a Cylon, he is Hephasteus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The sacrifice of the tribes' leaders in the [[Tomb of Athena]] was part of the peace settlement at the end of the war on Kobol. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The warning that any return to Kobol would exact a price in blood refers either to Kobol being irradiated when it was abandoned or to a settlement between the factions in the war on Kobol forbidding any side from returning. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Final Five ended the first Cylon War. -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Significant Seven were created from DNA samples of Thirteenth Tribe Cylons. (plausible, we know that the Ones are based on Ellen's father) -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**There was supposed to be a Number Seven, but the DNA samples were insufficent. (close, Cavil corrupted the Sevens' genetic template) -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

=== Hybrid prophecy speculation ===
*"But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of one splintering into many." refers to the Cylon civil war. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
**Sin refers specifically to both sides compromising their principles. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*"And then, they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning." refers to humanity, the Significant Seven and the Final Five following Kara to Earth and forging an awkward peace. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*"They must not follow her." could refer to Kara's disappearance between [[Maelstrom]] and [[Crossroads, Part 2|Crossroads]], or to how the fleet following Kara could've ruined the tentative alliance with Natalie's faction. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*"End" does not refer to destruction, it refers to the end of the journey, or the end of an era. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*Kara's role as the "harbinger of death" is much better than it sounds. It could refer to Kara's role warning others of some impending catastrophe, it could also refer to how Kara's return coincided with the return of Roslin's cancer. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*Kara's role as the herald of the apocalypse refers to how her return coincides with the awakening of four of the Final Five and the return of Roslin's visions. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*The one reborn is Kara Thrace. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*<s>The "missing three" refers to the Ones, Fours and Fives, in other words, the Significant Seven will find the Final Five after the end of the Cylon civil war.</s> -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC) false
*In addition to referring to Earth and the Thirteenth Tribe, "the thirteenth" also refers to another Cylon or pseudo-Cylon model. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC) (possibly correct, the thirteenth tribe were Cylons)
*"Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable." and "You will lead them all to their end." refers to generations of human-Cylon crossbreeding eventually making everyone part-Cylon. -- 00:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

=== Joke theories ===
*Although he is not aware of it, Gaius Baltar has the ability to cheat fate by injecting others with his bad karma. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Virtual Six]] will go crazy if she hasn't already. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Kara Thrace]] is safe from the Baltar curse, she already went crazy and died. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**The unnamed female Baltar aides / interns / groupies from [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] are dead. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Tracey Anne]] is doomed. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Tory Foster]] is going to die and probably take out a lot of others with her. Fortunately for her, she'll probably [[Resurrection (RDM)|get better]]. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**When Baltar got stabbed by Gaeta, it could've been his bad karma arcing back to him. Gaeta's loss of a leg could also be a non-lethal manifestation of the curse. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
**Baltar bled bad karma all over Roslin in [[The Hub]]. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Galactica 1980 is canonically part of the previous cycle. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
*<s>[[Cally Tyrol]] is too cute to die.</s> -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**Cally is too cute to stay dead, therefore Cally is a Cylon, therefore Galen Tyrol cannot be Nicholas Tyrol's real father. Since she went crazy and then died horribly, the real father is probably Baltar. -- 03:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
***Two words: virtual Cally. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**[[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]'s too cute to die. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*There will be a canonical pairing more creepy and twisted than the ones we've seen so far. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Right now, the most likely candidate is Kara / Leoben. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Caprica-Six / Tigh is also likely. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Looking doubtful after [[No Exit]]'s revelations about Ellen and Cavil. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*Season 4 will introduce an average of at least 0.5 squick-inducing canon pairings per episode. -- 00:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
*#[[Helena Cain]] / [[Gina Inviere]] ([[Razor]]).
*#[[Gaius Baltar]] / [[Tory Foster]] ([[Six of One]]) (it's fine now, but it was creepy at the start).
*#[[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] / [[Number One|Cavil]] (hinted in [[Six of One]], confirmed in [[The Ties That Bind]]).
*#[[Natalie]] / [[Number Six#New Caprica Copies|unnamed other Six]] ([[Faith]]).
*#[[Caprica-Six]] / [[Saul Tigh]] (hinted in [[Escape Velocity]], confirmed in [[Sine Qua Non]])
*#[[Karl Agathon]] / [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer pretending to be Athena]] ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).
*<s>[[Bear McCreary]] will play the final Cylon: [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]].</s> -- 06:37, 17 June 2008
**The final Cylon is the unnamed character based on Bear McCreary, he will be played by Bob Dylan. -- 02:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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2009-03-18T02:20:14Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Plausible speculation */

==Speculation on [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]==
{{spoiler}}

===Plausible speculation===
*It appears that, in season 3, everything that's happened to [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] since his election has served (from a dramatic or storytelling perspective) to strip away his arrogance. Particularly the suicide attempt provoked by [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Baltar's Internal Six|internal Six]] in [[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]. -- 21:08, 30 January 2007 (CST)
*In [[Exodus, Part I]] it was mentioned that the Cylons are stretching their resources thin. I suspect that the Cylons are at either in a civil war (likely between the earlier and later models, although possibly between two divergent branches) or at war with some other civilization. I suspect that they destroyed the Twelve Colonies because they were paranoid about the possibility of fighting a war on two fronts. -- 21:56, 30 January 2007 (CST)
*The five priests of the One Whose Name Cannot be Spoken aren't the [[final five]], but they may have been the previous cycle's equivalent of Cylons. -- 00:43, 1 February 2007 (CST) (correct)
*<s>Apparently four of the [[final five]] will be revealed in the season finale. If Baltar is a Cylon, I strongly suspect that he will be convicted, executed and then wake up in a [[Cylon rebirthing tank]] surrounded by three other Cylon models.</s> -- 02:00, 5 February 2007 (CST) false
**If he is not a Cylon, Baltar will survive due to acquittal, a jailbreak, bribes or extortion. -- 02:21, 20 March 2007 (CDT) (true, except possibly the "not a Cylon" part)
*Although they can produce spare bodies, the humanoid Cylons lack the technology to produce new humanoid models, and may even be unable to make more copies of existing models. -- 16:10, 3 March 2007 (CST)
*Starbuck is a Cylon. -- 22:45, 6 March 2007 (CST)
*Based on his accent in the preview, [[Romo Lampkin]] is probably from [[Aerelon]]. (Not quite refuted in [[Sine Qua Non]], he could've emigrated from Aerelon like Baltar). -- 23:39, 10 March 2007 (CST)
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] has stated that there are already hints in aired episodes pointing to the last member of the final five. Based on this statement, I believe that, as of Crossroads, Part II, the only three remaining Cylon candidates are [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Kara Thrace]] <s>and [[Laura Roslin]]</s>. -- 00:52, 28 March 2007 (CDT) (Roslin's been eliminated by the Frak Party podcast)
**And [[Tom Zarek]]. -- 05:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*If one of the [[Final Five]] dies, their consciousness will be transmitted to the nearest Resurrection Ship. It is likely that this will result in either transmission to the nearest resurrection facility with an appropriate body (either on the Cylon homeworld or in one of the hypothetical Final Five fleet's resurrection ships) or the boxing of the consciousness and an error message transmitted up the Cylon hierarchy. -- 01:23, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
**Moot as of the Hub, although they could have their own resurrection network. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Gina's "Trust me, in the end, we're all just human" line from [[Razor]] is ''extremely'' significant. -- 00:57, 25 June 2007 (CDT)
**Supported by dialogue in the Hub. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Guardians are still around. -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
*<s>The Ones, Fours and Fives will be boxed.</s> -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
**<s>After the Threes are unboxed (which has already been revealed in spoilers), the other models may be unboxed due to Natalie's faction comprising a larger voting bloc.</s> -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
*[[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] will join [[Natalie]]'s faction. -- 03:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
**Not quite disproven yet, she could've made it out. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC) (and she did)
*One of the Final Five, probably [[Galen Tyrol]], will make at least one suicide attempt. -- 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
**Arguably correct, Tigh's behaviour in Revelations was suicidal. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*One of the Final Five will die. -- 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
*The [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] is the tribe of [[w:Ophiuchus|Ophiuchus / Serpentarius]]. -- 04:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
**There will be more [[w:serpent (symbolism)|serpent-related symbolism]] connected to the Thirteenth Tribe and / or Earth. -- 04:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
*Based on some scenes in [[The Hub]] and Caprica-Six's pregnancy [[Sine Qua Non]], Helo is now a Cylon candidate. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*The love requirement is a failsafe to prevent Cylons from breeding in the wrong circumstances. -- 02:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
*The [[Resurrection Hub]] is irreplacable because it was already complete when the Significant Seven went online and they don't know the details of its' construction. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Even if the Final Five lack numbers, there is or was a Number Seven. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because the last Cylon was among those on the Basestar at the start of [[Revelations]]. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because she doesn't know who the last Cylon is. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because she unknowingly killed the last Cylon, probably on New Caprica. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*Cavil's faction will find Earth. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Ones will not believe that Natalie's faction has identified four of the Final Five. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Thirteenth Tribe had a civil war on Earth. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC) (correct)
*There are survivors of the Thirteenth Tribe on Earth, but they are in a dark age. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[The Music]] was coming from [[Starbuck's Viper]]. -- 03:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[Ben Stark]], [[Tamara Adama]] and [[Zoe Graystone]] are still around in some form. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
*Based on The Face of the Enemy and the some of the clips from YooWillKnowTheTruth, Gaeta is also a likely Cylon candidate. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*The Hybrids are the Sevens. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*The Ones wiped out the old Centurions. -- 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*The other Cylon faction has been taking some Twos, Sixes and Eights as prisoners. -- 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*The Ones are responsible for modern Cylons' reproductive difficulties. -- 02:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
*The Cylon rebels will win by telling the Fours and Fives what we've known about the Ones since [[No Exit]]. -- 02:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
**Cavil will respond with an unsuccessful attempt to spin his secret actions as being in the best interests of the species. -- 02:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

===Wild speculation===
*If Baltar is not one of the [[Final Five]] then he's half-Cylon like [[Hera]], which would push the origin of humanoid Cylons back by 2 or 3 decades. -- 00:43, 1 February 2007 (CST) (more plausible now that the origin of the humanoid Cylons has been pushed back to the Cylon war)
**If Baltar is half-Cylon, the most likely candidate for his father is [[Saul Tigh]], as he is old enough and from Aerelon. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
**Kara is also a likely half-Cylon candidate. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*If the Cylons have an equivalent of the [[Imperious Leader]], it is probably a network of [[Hybrid]]s and similar Cylon supercomputers, however most short-term decisions are delegated to the humanoid models. -- 02:07, 6 February 2007 (CST)
**The Cylons may also have a collective consciousness. A distributed network based on swarm intelligence, connected thorugh the datastream. The network as a whole may not be sane, and may not even be self-aware. Internal Six, Internal Baltar and Kara's dreams and hallucinations of Leoben may be subroutines of the Cylon network. -- 22:45, 6 March 2007 (CST) (more plausible after the events in Crossroads, which suggest some form of involuntary or subconscious communication)
*Baltar died in the nuclear blast on Caprica, got resurrected and subconsciously blocked out the memories which contradicted his cover identity. -- 01:38, 28 February 2007 (CST) (increasingly unlikely, but not quite ruled out yet)
*In at least some of the previous cycles the Cylons (or their conterparts) wiped out the humans of the Twelve Colonies (or their counterparts) and interbred with the humans of Earth. Every modern human has at least a small amount of Cylon (or Cylon counterpart) ancestry. -- 01:48, 28 February 2007 (CST)
*Of the Final Five, at least one is obvious (such as Baltar or Starbuck), one is unexpected (such as an Adama, Saul Tigh or Cally), one is unheard of (a new character) and one was presumed dead (such as Kat, Ellen Tigh or Billy Keikeya). There could be some overlap between the categories. -- 00:31, 2 March 2007 (CST) (so far we've got Saul Tigh, who is unexpected, and Galen Tyrol, who is both obvious due to [[The Eye of Jupiter]] and [[Rapture]] and unexpected because he has a child, if Kara Thrace is a Cylon she would count as both obvious and presumed dead)
*<s>Maelstrom will have a scene in which Starbuck wakes up in a rebirthing tank and kills Leoben, although it may be in a dream. -- 00:34, 2 March 2007 (CST)</s> False
*As the "chosen one", Baltar was destined to see the [[final five]] in the [[Temple of Five]]. [[Number Three]] managed to usurp his destiny, with significant consequences. This means that [[Sacred Scrolls#The Cycle of Time|The Cycle of Time]] is not absolute and destiny can be resisted, although not without a cost. -- 00:52, 10 March 2007 (CST)
**Fighting destiny will be a major theme of [[season 4 (2008)|season 4]]. -- 23:04, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
***Kara Thrace will ultimately reject [[The Destiny|her destiny]]. -- 02:14, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*There is at least one [[Saul Tigh]] copy in the fleet with a younger, more recently grown body. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
*All twelve of the humanoid Cylon models were around during the Cylon War, and some or all of them may have been around earlier. [[Saul Tigh]] is part of the first "production run", most of the other copies we've seen (and most of the humanoid Cylon population) were "mass produced" a few years prior to the invasion, and [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Tory Foster]] were created during or slightly before the pre-invasion "production run". These "Cylon elders" from the early production run(s) are likely candidates for the Cylon leadership. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
*Laura Roslin is a Cylon, but is not one of the Twelve. Either she is a prototype, in which case her declining health is due to design flaws, or she is a Cylon from the previous cycle, in which case her declining health is due to mutations accumulated over dozens of generations of cloning. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*<s>Based on the preview for [[Revelations]], William Adama could be a Cylon.</s> -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC) false
*The Hybrids are the Sevens, the unrevealed Final Five model. -- 01:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
*Kara Thrace is the dying leader. -- 22:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
*There is a Cylon version of William Adama. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
**And the original William Adama died during or before the Cylon War. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
*[[Pythia]] was a member of the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]]. -- 00:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**Pythia is one of the Final Five. -- 06:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Hybrids are based on Pythia's genetic template. -- 06:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Lords of Kobol are heavily mythologized versions of the Thirtheenth Tribe's Cylon models. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Ones / Cavils are Zeus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Ones / Cavils are The One Whose Name Cannot Be Spoken. -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Twos / Leobens are Apollo. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Threes / D'Annas is Hera. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Fours / Simons are Asclepius or Hephasteus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Sixes is Aphrodite. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Eights is Athena. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**Saul Tigh is Ares. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**If Kara Thrace is a Cylon, she is Aurora. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**If Gaius Baltar is a Cylon, he is Hephasteus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The sacrifice of the tribes' leaders in the [[Tomb of Athena]] was part of the peace settlement at the end of the war on Kobol. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The warning that any return to Kobol would exact a price in blood refers either to Kobol being irradiated when it was abandoned or to a settlement between the factions in the war on Kobol forbidding any side from returning. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Final Five ended the first Cylon War. -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Significant Seven were created from DNA samples of Thirteenth Tribe Cylons. (plausible, we know that the Ones are based on Ellen's father) -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**There was supposed to be a Number Seven, but the DNA samples were insufficent. (close, Cavil corrupted the Sevens' genetic template) -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

=== Hybrid prophecy speculation ===
*"But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of one splintering into many." refers to the Cylon civil war. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
**Sin refers specifically to both sides compromising their principles. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*"And then, they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning." refers to humanity, the Significant Seven and the Final Five following Kara to Earth and forging an awkward peace. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*"They must not follow her." could refer to Kara's disappearance between [[Maelstrom]] and [[Crossroads, Part 2|Crossroads]], or to how the fleet following Kara could've ruined the tentative alliance with Natalie's faction. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*"End" does not refer to destruction, it refers to the end of the journey, or the end of an era. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*Kara's role as the "harbinger of death" is much better than it sounds. It could refer to Kara's role warning others of some impending catastrophe, it could also refer to how Kara's return coincided with the return of Roslin's cancer. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*Kara's role as the herald of the apocalypse refers to how her return coincides with the awakening of four of the Final Five and the return of Roslin's visions. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*The one reborn is Kara Thrace. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*<s>The "missing three" refers to the Ones, Fours and Fives, in other words, the Significant Seven will find the Final Five after the end of the Cylon civil war.</s> -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC) false
*In addition to referring to Earth and the Thirteenth Tribe, "the thirteenth" also refers to another Cylon or pseudo-Cylon model. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC) (possibly correct, the thirteenth tribe were Cylons)
*"Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable." and "You will lead them all to their end." refers to generations of human-Cylon crossbreeding eventually making everyone part-Cylon. -- 00:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

=== Joke theories ===
*Although he is not aware of it, Gaius Baltar has the ability to cheat fate by injecting others with his bad karma. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Virtual Six]] will go crazy if she hasn't already. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Kara Thrace]] is safe from the Baltar curse, she already went crazy and died. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**The unnamed female Baltar aides / interns / groupies from [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] are dead. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Tracey Anne]] is doomed. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Tory Foster]] is going to die and probably take out a lot of others with her. Fortunately for her, she'll probably [[Resurrection (RDM)|get better]]. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**When Baltar got stabbed by Gaeta, it could've been his bad karma arcing back to him. Gaeta's loss of a leg could also be a non-lethal manifestation of the curse. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
**Baltar bled bad karma all over Roslin in [[The Hub]]. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Galactica 1980 is canonically part of the previous cycle. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
*<s>[[Cally Tyrol]] is too cute to die.</s> -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**Cally is too cute to stay dead, therefore Cally is a Cylon, therefore Galen Tyrol cannot be Nicholas Tyrol's real father. Since she went crazy and then died horribly, the real father is probably Baltar. -- 03:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
***Two words: virtual Cally. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**[[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]'s too cute to die. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*There will be a canonical pairing more creepy and twisted than the ones we've seen so far. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Right now, the most likely candidate is Kara / Leoben. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Caprica-Six / Tigh is also likely. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Looking doubtful after [[No Exit]]'s revelations about Ellen and Cavil. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*Season 4 will introduce an average of at least 0.5 squick-inducing canon pairings per episode. -- 00:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
*#[[Helena Cain]] / [[Gina Inviere]] ([[Razor]]).
*#[[Gaius Baltar]] / [[Tory Foster]] ([[Six of One]]) (it's fine now, but it was creepy at the start).
*#[[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] / [[Number One|Cavil]] (hinted in [[Six of One]], confirmed in [[The Ties That Bind]]).
*#[[Natalie]] / [[Number Six#New Caprica Copies|unnamed other Six]] ([[Faith]]).
*#[[Caprica-Six]] / [[Saul Tigh]] (hinted in [[Escape Velocity]], confirmed in [[Sine Qua Non]])
*#[[Karl Agathon]] / [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer pretending to be Athena]] ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).
*<s>[[Bear McCreary]] will play the final Cylon: [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]].</s> -- 06:37, 17 June 2008
**The final Cylon is the unnamed character based on Bear McCreary, he will be played by Bob Dylan. -- 02:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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Daybreak, Part II

2009-03-14T06:18:58Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Notes */ removing note about a scene from part 1, updating note about runtime and splitting

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| title= Daybreak, Part II
| season= 4
| episode= 20
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| CAN airdate=March 20, 2009
| UK airdate=March 24, 2009
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| prev=[[Daybreak, Part I]]
| next=[[The Plan]]
| extra='''Series Finale - 2 Hour Episode'''<ref>http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html</ref>
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== Overview ==

== Summary ==

=== Teaser ===

=== Act 1 ===

=== Act 2 ===

=== Act 3 ===

=== Act 4 ===

== Notes ==
*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th <ref>http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html</ref>. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" and "[[Rapture]]".
*Although Part I had a runtime of one hour, Part II will run for two hours. An even longer cut of Daybreak will later be released on DVD. <ref>{{cite_news|first=|last=|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/07/talking-battles.html|title=Talking 'Battlestar Galactica's' finale, 'Caprica' and the 'Battlestar' TV movie with Ron Moore}}</ref>

== Analysis ==

== Questions ==

== Official Statements ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Guest Stars ==

== References ==

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Number One

2009-03-11T07:40:40Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Faction Leader Copy */ No Exit implies that he survived, however it's pretty hard to tell them apart

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"'''Number One'''" is the first of eight [[humanoid Cylon]] models created by the [[Final Five]] for the [[Cylon Centurion| Centurions]] following the [[Cylon War|first Cylon war]]. The Final Five referred to him as John, and he was created in the image of [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen Tigh's]] biological father.

One of the Number Ones, prior to being discovered among the Fleet, posed as '''[[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Clergy|Brother Cavil]]''', a member of the Colonial clergy. However, contrary to his assumed role, he did not share the other Cylons' [[Cylon Religion|religious beliefs]] and frequently mocked them.

== "John" and the Final Five ==

After the [[Final Five]] contacted the Centurions, they agreed to create humanoid Cylons and share resurrection technology with them in exchange for an end to the [[Cylon War]]. The first humanoid Cylon created by the Final Five was "John", named after and created in the likeness of [[Ellen Tigh]]'s biological father. He was "treasured" by the Five, and even assisted them in the creation of the other seven models.

John grew intensely jealous of [[Daniel]], the seventh model, because Daniel was emotionally favored by Ellen. John sabotaged the Sevens' genetic code and amniotic fluid, wiping out the entire line permanently. He later trapped the Final Five in a room, suffocated them, and [[boxing|boxed]] them before they could be resurrected fully. Sometime after, he obscured their original memories, gave them false ones, and planted each of them "like a [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]" among the humans in an effort to teach them a lesson about their foolish appreciation for humans. As well, he corrupted the memories of his six surviving "sibling" models to remove from them the knowledge of the Final Five's identities and programmed them not to think about the matter, though they still knew that another five models were extant. John was extremely contemptuous of many of the human traits the Five gave him. He eliminated his need for sleep and dreaming by rewriting his own software.

==''Galactica'' Copy==

On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', the first viewed copy of Brother Cavil provides counsel for [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] after Tyrol's maddened attack against [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]. Cavil identifies the source of Tyrol's anxiety as arising from the fear that he could be a [[Humanoid Cylon|Cylon sleeper agent]]. This Cavil seems to be personally very familiar with Tyrol and is apparently aware that Henderson harbors romantic feelings for him ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]). (Later analysis of Cavil's nature, from behavior in season 3 and 4 episodes, suggests that Cavil's comments were aimed to incite torment in Tyrol.)

A somewhat eccentric figure, Cavil is a surprisingly harsh critic of prayer for a Brother, but claims to have been preaching "longer than you [Tyrol] have been sucking down oxygen" ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]). This claim is patently false, as Tyrol is among Cavil's creators.

Despite his cynicism, Cavil prays with [[Laura Roslin]] for her re-election to the presidency to be successful. When Tyrol deduces the Caprica copy of him as a Cylon, Cavil is thrown in the brig along with his copy. He is later ejected through an airlock along with his copy (deleted scene). Due to the loss of the [[Resurrection Ship]], his death is presumed to be final ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).

==Caprica Copy==
[[Image:Cyca2.jpg|left|thumb|Caprican Cavil]]
A second copy of this model emerges from the crew of resistance members rescued by the Caprica [[SAR]] team, telling them that the Cylons had left the Colonies. What he does not tell them — until Tyrol blew his cover upon his arrival at ''Galactica'' — is that he is a Cylon.

Due to this copy's discovery, the Fleet copy is arrested as well and thrown in ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'''s brig. Laura Roslin orders them ejected into space after Caprica-Cavil informs her and Admiral Adama that the Cylons had made two mistakes: the attack on the Colonies and the pursuit of the [[the Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]). Due to the loss of the Resurrection Ship, his death is presumed to be final. Though their execution is not shown, a later conversation indicates that they were executed ([[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)#Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|deleted scene]]).

Like his Fleet counterpart, the Caprica copy also expresses doubt in the active involvement of divine forces in the real world, although he focuses his contempt on the Cylon religion. He says that "There is no [[God (RDM)|God]]", something that the Ones have been telling the other Cylons for years, though he acknowledges that God's existence or nonexistence can't actually be proven. Based on his conversation with the Fleet copy, this viewpoint appears to be shared between at least these two copies, and possibly across the entire model.

==New Caprica Copies==
[[Image:Brother Cavil Shades.jpg|thumb|right|A Cavil on New Caprica]]

At least two Ones are present in the invasion fleet on New Caprica, as seen in "[[Occupation]]" and "[[Precipice]]." They have some authority over humans in detainment, as [[Ellen Tigh]] is able to use sexual favors to bribe another into releasing [[Saul Tigh]]. This may have been a self-serving ruse, because after a second sexual encounter, One says to her of Saul, "When's his next meeting with the insurgents?" and "We know he's their leader - why do you think we let him out of detention?" Ellen replies, "I thought it was because of the 'twist'", referring to a sex act, and One says, "Oh, yes, that too."

Two copies are also involved in the Cylon leaders' discussions such as whether to kill [[Gaius Baltar]].

Another copy also acts as a type of liaison between the [[New Caprica Police|NCP]] and their Cylon masters. He gives [[Jammer]] the list of Colonials to detain, and later accompanies the NCP to the site of a mass execution of Colonial Detainees ([[Occupation]]).

The NCP liaison version is critically wounded during an attack by the Resistance movement. One is left with a bullet wound to the stomach and is left to die after the detainees are liberated. He resorts to suicide by severing his [[w:carotid artery|carotid artery]] with a spent casing. He [[Resurrection (RDM)|downloads]] into a new body for the third time; an experience that, as he explains, is similar to having a white hot poker slammed through his skull ([[Exodus, Part I]]).

Shortly before her death, [[Ellen Tigh]] descibes the One she seduced as the one "in charge" of the Detention Facility ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

==Basestar Command Copies==
[[Image:CavHap2.jpg|thumb||left|Cylon Diplomat]]
After the Cylon fleet arrives at the [[algae planet]], a Cylon negotiation team negotiates a meeting on ''Galactica'', which consists of [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]], a [[Number Three]], and a Number One. The One ad-libs during the discussion, personally suggesting that the Cylons will hand over Baltar to the Colonials as part of the negotiation ("to sweeten the pot").

Later, a One (likely the same one) argues that they should destroy ''Galactica'' now and be rid of them for good. He thinks it does not matter if the Cylons find [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] in five days or five thousand years, saying that they can last forever, whereas the Colonials can't. He then determines Admiral Adama's claim that he will nuke the temple is a bluff even as ''Galactica'' preps its missile launchers ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]).

Another copy greets Number Three when she resurrects on a Resurrection Ship and informs her of the decision to box her model. She replies that someday he will know the truth of the [[Final Five]] like she does just before he removes the device storing her consciousness. Other Cavils are shown boxing other Number Threes all over the room in the Resurrection Ship ([[Rapture]]).

===Faction Leader Copy===
:''Owing to the identical nature of the Ones, the singular copy referred to below may actually be several different copies. Furthermore this copy could be the same as one discussed above, although there is no particular indication this is the case.''

In "[[Six of One]]" a Number One model, consistently referred to as "Cavil", despite the egalitarian and democratic principles of Cylon command, exudes an definite sense of assumed authority. As of such, he appears to be the ''de facto'' leader of one side of the [[Cylon Civil War|schism]] between the Cylons, composed of Ones, [[Four]]s, [[Five]]s, and [[Sharon Valerii]], opposed to the [[Number Two|Twos]], [[Number Six|Sixes]] and [[Number Eight|Eights]] loyal to [[Natalie]]. His is among the first blood shed in the Cylon Civil War, as Natalie has the [[Telencephalic inhibitor|self-aware]] [[Centurions]] (a concept Cavil is horrified by) attack. He initially appears to be forgiving, negotiating generous terms of truce with the rebels, although this is turns out to be a ploy for a devastating ambush, one which he justifies: "they started it".

Cavil is in a romantic relationship with Valerii, although the nature of it is odd, he condescendingly refers to her as his "pet Eight" ([[The Hub]]). He has been holding Ellen Tigh prisoner ever since she was killed by her husband and resurrected ([[No Exit]]).

This copy is killed by [[Number Three]] after he [[boxing|un-boxes]] her to try to convince her to get the rebels to stop. She breaks his neck when she learns of the attack on the Hub, believing that he won't have time to resurrect before it is destroyed ([[The Hub]]).

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==Analysis==
In "[[Occupation]]" and "[[Precipice]]", the Ones are the most ''outwardly'' [[w:sadism|sadistic]] and cruel to humans, appearing to take pleasure (or at least a noticeable level of amusement) in their own acts of psychological and physical cruelty. They are even described by one of their creators, [[Ellen Tigh]], as being sadists. The Ones like toying with the idea of liquidating the human population on New Caprica as a solution to the Resistance, to "perhaps a more manageable number. Say, less than a thousand."

The Ones are described as being driven by base emotions, principally anger and jealousy ([[No Exit]]). They try to hide behind a facade of genial yet sarcastic superiority, but when situations move beyond their control they often lash out in rage, abandoning any pretence of civility. The Ones are a vindictive model; even their creators do not escape their anger and wrath. They specifically torture the [[Final Five]] psychologically and physically as a means of exacting "justice" for perceived slights against them. In conversation with the other Cylons, Ones are vocal and callous proponents of harsh measures against the [[New Caprica Resistance]] and are strong advocates of mass executions.

It is ironic that the first two known copies of this apparently [[w:Atheism|atheistic]] or [[w:Agnosticism|agnostic]] model pose as lay clergy. This may be an intentional mockery of religion on their part. The Cavils on [[New Caprica]] often speak of "God" sarcastically when among other Cylons but seem to recognize the pragmatic aspects of religion, referring to the Cylon "plan" as "God's Plan." The Cavil who lead the main Cylon faction against the rebel faction is also implied to possess more personal knowledge than other Cylons as the nature of the Cylon god and possibly the Final Five. He plays a "gatekeeper" role, and refers to "God" as "the voice of reason."

With the Cylons apparently occupying [[New Caprica]] at the end of the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|episode]], it appears that the Ones on ''Galactica'' are either lying about the Cylon change of heart or the Cylon plans changed after the second Number One was captured on ''Galactica''.

In "[[Exodus, Part I]]", it is learned that at a Number One unit, the leader of the execution squad intercepted by the Resistance and who died there (his third death), experienced increasing head pain with each resurrection.

Several comments Number One makes in the episode "[[The Ties That Bind]]" indicate that he has some deeper knowledge of the Centurions than the rest of the Cylons do. This is because the Ones are the eldest of the eight Colonial-era Humanoid Cylons, the firsts ones to be created by the [[Final Five]]. They played a key role in helping the Five create both their seven brother and sister models and the advanced Centurions and Raiders.

==Notes==

*The word ''cavil'' is a noun and verb involving an irrelevant or trivial point made during an argument or discussion; synonyms include ''quibble'' and ''carp.'' (<span class="plainlinks">[http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cavil Dictionary Reference]</span>)
*Cavil's numerical designation isn't revealed until the episode "[[Six of One]]" in Season Four and his given name "John" is not revealed until "[[No Exit]]", also of Season Four.
*Cavil is also revealed in "No Exit" to have been, among other things, the anonymous stranger who placed an unconcious [[Ellen Tigh]] aboard the ''[[Rising Star (RDM)|Rising Star]]'' during the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. His copy on Caprica was a member of Sam's resistance fighters, which is why his sudden appearance in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" was not remarked on with surprise.

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The Music

2009-03-10T07:01:17Z

Gordon Ecker: Islanded in a Stream of Stars

As the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] approaches the [[Ionian nebula]], four people, [[Saul Tigh]], [[Samuel Anders]], [[Tory Foster]] and [[Galen Tyrol]], begin hearing fragments of strange music that only they can hear. The music becomes more distinct and distracting as the Fleet gets closer to the nebula.

Once the Fleet arrives at the Ionian nebula, '''the music'''<ref>{{bsgwiki term}}</ref> reaches a piercing shrill. The Colonials affected not only hear the music complete, but begin to add lyrics as well. As the Fleet plunges into darkness, losing electrical power for reasons unknown, the music compels the four to meet in an isolated room.

The four are able to assemble the lyric fragments with the intact music to form a strange song. The musical experience is associated with a "switch going off" in the minds of the four, who suddenly become aware that they are [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. The source or cause of the music is not known, but [[Final Five]] Cylon [[Samuel Anders]] recalls that in a past life on [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]], he wrote the song<ref>In the commentary podcast for "Sometimes a Great Notion", Ronald D. Moore explains that Anders (not Bob Dylan) wrote the song in the Galactica universe, and acknowledges that he and the writers & editors failed to adequately get that across to the audience.</ref> and used to play it for the woman he loved and his friends ([[Crossroads, Part II]], [[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).

At the end of the episode the song starts playing as background music for the viewers to hear. These are the complete lyrics that are sung:

:''There must be some way out of here''
:''Said the joker to the thief''
:''There's too much confusion''
:''I can't get no relief''
:''Businessmen they drink my wine''
:''Plowmen dig my earth''
:''None of them along the line''
:''Know what any of it is worth''

:''No reason to get excited''
:''The thief he kindly spoke''
:''There are many here among us''
:''Who feel that life is but a joke''
:''But you and I, we've been through that''
:''And this is not our fate''
:''So let us not talk falsely now''
:''The hour is getting late''

:''All along the watchtower''
:''All along the watchtower''

Several of the lines appear in dialogue throughout the episode:

:Anders: That song you're hummin'. What is that?
:Tyrol: Oh, uh. Ah you know I don't even know, it's just something I can't get outta my head. '''Some way outta here'''.

:Racetrack: Yo, Anders! Do you need a frakking invitation? Move it!
:Anders: Alright. '''No reason to get excited'''.

:Saul Tigh: You'll look into it? You'll look into it? I am here telling you there is Cylon sabotage aboard our ship.
:William Adama: Sabotage? With music?
:Saul Tigh: I know, I know. I can't quite understand it myself. '''There's too much confusion'''.

:Saul Tigh (to self, after Adama exits): '''There must be some kinda way out of here.'''

:Tory Foster (while washing her hands): '''I can't get no relief.'''

Since their awakening was precipitated by hearing this music, Anders, Foster, Tigh, and Tyrol become sensitive to mentions of music by others, believing they may be clues to the identity of the then-unknown member of the Final Five. These include [[Gaius Baltar]] using music as a metaphor for spiritual awareness ([[Six of One]]), an idea [[Virtual Six]] told Baltar of in his first vision of the [[Opera House]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]), [[Number Two]]'s description of a subtle music underscoring reality that only a few individuals, including [[Kara Thrace]] could hear ([[Faith]]) and [[Felix Gaeta]] singing to distract himself from the pain of his amputated leg ([[Guess What's Coming To Dinner?]]).

The music is heard again during a standoff between ''Galactica'' and the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]. It draws Tigh, Tyrol and Anders to [[Viper 8757|Kara Thrace's Viper]], which causes the three to believe there's something special about it. Thrace investigates their claim, and discovers a clue that ultimately leads the Fleet to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]: a Colonial emergency locator beacon signal. Upon the Fleet's arrival at Earth, they land and survey a radiated wasteland of crumbled skyscrapers and a collapsed bridge <ref>with which many viewers perceived a [http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/913/bsgbrooklynbridgeyx0.jpg similarity to real-world New York City], as viewed from near the east tower of the Brooklyn Bridge, [http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&q=watchtower&near=Brooklyn,+NY&fb=1&t=h&ll=40.702879,-73.994551&spn=0.003221,0.00559&z=17 specifically the site] of the [[w:Jehovah's Witnesses|Jehovah's Witnesses]] office building known as "[http://www.kelebekler.com/cesnur/txt/sedewts.jpg The Watchtower]"</ref> ([[Revelations]]).

Later Kara starts playing a song with the composer at the piano in [[Joe's Bar]]. It was a song that when she was little made her happy and [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] drew some of the notes to it and gave it to her. The two play it and it turns out to be The Music. Ellen, Saul, Tory and Tyrol hear it and are shocked especially at the fact that Hera was able to draw the notes to it. The significance of this is unknown, but the composer disappeared during the song and it is indicated that he was some kind of vision of [[Dreilide Thrace|Kara's father]]. Though she is present to hear the song, and has regained her memories of her former life, Final Five member [[Ellen Tigh]] seems not to understand fully the implications of the song either and if she knows when they last heard it and in what context, she does not say.

After being fatally injured by a hull breach, a dying Eight's last words are "too much confusion". ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]])

==Notes==
*The music is, indeed, a version of [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]]'s song, "[[w:All Along The Watchtower|All Along the Watchtower]]," specially arranged by series composer [[Bear McCreary]], the lyrics sung by his brother, [[Brendan McCreary]] (known professionally as Bt4) <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=164|title=Bear McCreary's Blog|date=March 25, 2007|accessdate=|last=|first=|format=|language=English}}</ref>. The song is available on the [[Soundtrack (Season 3)|Season 3 soundtrack]].
*The song is ''not'' intended to indicate that the Colonials have picked up an Earth communication. Series executive producer [[Ron D. Moore]] considers the song to be an invention created by a Colonial citizen in a curious parallel to what had or will develop on Earth. The series creators have intentionally avoided citing whether ''Battlestar Galactica'' occurs in the the series' [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]'s past, present, or future. Moore offers that "things that happened on ''Galactica'' were tied into our reality here on Earth in some way, in the past or the future, or some other connection"<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/ronald_d_moore|title=AV Club interview with Ronald D. Moore|date=|accessdate=April 22, 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=English}}</ref>.
*Over 25 notable bands have performed cover versions of "All Along The Watchtower"; the definitive cover was performed by [[w:The Jimi Hendrix Experience|The Jimi Hendrix Experience]]. Many people are unaware that his version was not the original <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.dmbalmanac.com/SongStats.aspx?sid=96|title=Song Stats for ''All Along the Watchtower'' at DMBAlmanac.com|date=|accessdate=April 22, 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=English}}</ref>.
*Bob Dylan has indicated that the events in the song's lyrics are "in a rather reverse order", beginning logically in time with the "All Along The Watchtower" verse and ending with the now-famous opening lines, "'There must be some way out of here,' said the Joker to the Thief." <ref name="dylanlyrics">http://bobdylan.com/songs/watchtower.html</ref>
*The version used in the series omits the final stanza, though the full song (including this stanza) is included in the season soundtrack:
*: ''All along the watchtower, princes kept the view''
*: ''While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too.''
*: ''Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl,''
*: ''Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl''
*The rhythm of the Colonial emergency locator beacon's signal matches the rhythm of the Music.

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*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UZ4C4A/ref=s9_asin_title_1/103-7723281-5296603?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=142PG250BG9FW5010JP2&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240301&pf_rd_i=507846 Season 3 OST at Amazon, including "All Along the Watchtower"]
*[http://www.reasontorock.com/tracks/watchtower.html An analysis of "All Along the Watchtower" at Reason to Rock]
*[http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=VWbyALbmqZY&offerid=78941&type=3&subid=0&tmpid=1826&RD_PARM1=http%253A%252F%252Fphobos.apple.com%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore.woa%252Fwa%252FviewAlbum%253Fi%253D91218865%2526id%253D91218823%2526s%253D143441%2526partnerId%253D30 "All Along the Watchtower"], sung by [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]], at iTunes
*[http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=VWbyALbmqZY&offerid=78941&type=3&subid=0&tmpid=1826&RD_PARM1=http%253A%252F%252Fphobos.apple.com%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore.woa%252Fwa%252FviewAlbum%253Fi%253D79674825%2526id%253D79674801%2526s%253D143441%2526partnerId%253D30 "All Along the Watchtower"], sung by [[w:Jimi Hendrix|Jimi Hendrix]], at iTunes
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Analysis and commentary in [http://www.amazon.com/Cylons-America-Critical-Battlestar-Galactica/dp/0826428487/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235253480&sr=8-1 “Of Duduks and Dylan: Negotiating Music and the Aural Space,” by Eftychia Papanikolaou.] In ''Cylons in America: Critical Studies of Battlestar Galactica''. Edited by Tiffany Potter and C. W. Marshall, Continuum, 2007.

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Projection

2009-03-10T06:41:07Z

Gordon Ecker: +Hera's ability to project

[[Image:Projection.jpg|thumb|300px|Caprica Six projects]]
'''Projection''' is a [[Humanoid Cylon|Cylon]] ability that allows them to consciously induce an extraordinarily realistic hallucination in the form of an artificial environment around themselves, which they can choose to share with other Cylons.

Cylons use this ability as a way to detach themselves of reality, and experience the world around them as they wish to, rather than how it is, serving as a psychological comfort.

Projection can also be used as a means to navigate the confusing hallways of a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]], and presumably other Cylon vessels as well, as hallways are uniform without discernible identification.

Projection was first observed when [[Caprica-Six]] projects a lush green forest during a discussion with Baltar aboard the Basestar. However, promotional photography and deleted scenes show [[Number Three]] projecting cathedral environments. In interviews, Matthew Bennett mentioned that the [[Doral]] model projects a nightclub.{{citation needed}}

The revelation of this ability to [[Gaius Baltar]] has made him suspect himself of being one of the [[final five]] Cylons, for it is undeniably similar to what he has been experiencing with [[Virtual beings#Baltar.27s Virtual Six|the virtual replica of Number Six]] which exists in his head, as well as various environments he has shared with her ([[Torn]]).

Later, he apparently projects himself and virtual Six on a beach, where they engage in sexual intercourse in order to block or distract Baltar from the effects of torture inflicted by [[Number Three]] for his omission in reporting a dangerous [[Lion's Head beacon|beacon]] found near the [[Lion's Head Nebula]] ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).

It is later revealed that one Cylon can transfer and share a projection with another. This occurs during [[Sharon Valerii]]'s second incarceration aboard ''Galactica'' when she brings [[Galen Tyrol]] into a projection she created showing the two living an idyllic life on [[Picon]] with a daughter named [[Dionne]]. When Valerii later escapes and kidnaps [[Hera Agathon]], Tyrol conjures up the projection by himself ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).

[[Hera Agathon]] has also demonstrated the ability to project and share projections. ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]])

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2009-03-10T03:53:59Z

Gordon Ecker:

==Speculation on [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]==
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===Plausible speculation===
*It appears that, in season 3, everything that's happened to [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] since his election has served (from a dramatic or storytelling perspective) to strip away his arrogance. Particularly the suicide attempt provoked by [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations#Baltar's Internal Six|internal Six]] in [[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]. -- 21:08, 30 January 2007 (CST)
*In [[Exodus, Part I]] it was mentioned that the Cylons are stretching their resources thin. I suspect that the Cylons are at either in a civil war (likely between the earlier and later models, although possibly between two divergent branches) or at war with some other civilization. I suspect that they destroyed the Twelve Colonies because they were paranoid about the possibility of fighting a war on two fronts. -- 21:56, 30 January 2007 (CST)
*The five priests of the One Whose Name Cannot be Spoken aren't the [[final five]], but they may have been the previous cycle's equivalent of Cylons. -- 00:43, 1 February 2007 (CST) (correct)
*<s>Apparently four of the [[final five]] will be revealed in the season finale. If Baltar is a Cylon, I strongly suspect that he will be convicted, executed and then wake up in a [[Cylon rebirthing tank]] surrounded by three other Cylon models.</s> -- 02:00, 5 February 2007 (CST) false
**If he is not a Cylon, Baltar will survive due to acquittal, a jailbreak, bribes or extortion. -- 02:21, 20 March 2007 (CDT) (true, except possibly the "not a Cylon" part)
*Although they can produce spare bodies, the humanoid Cylons lack the technology to produce new humanoid models, and may even be unable to make more copies of existing models. -- 16:10, 3 March 2007 (CST)
*Starbuck is a Cylon. -- 22:45, 6 March 2007 (CST)
*Based on his accent in the preview, [[Romo Lampkin]] is probably from [[Aerelon]]. (Not quite refuted in [[Sine Qua Non]], he could've emigrated from Aerelon like Baltar). -- 23:39, 10 March 2007 (CST)
*[[Ronald D. Moore]] has stated that there are already hints in aired episodes pointing to the last member of the final five. Based on this statement, I believe that, as of Crossroads, Part II, the only three remaining Cylon candidates are [[Gaius Baltar]], [[Kara Thrace]] <s>and [[Laura Roslin]]</s>. -- 00:52, 28 March 2007 (CDT) (Roslin's been eliminated by the Frak Party podcast)
**And [[Tom Zarek]]. -- 05:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*If one of the [[Final Five]] dies, their consciousness will be transmitted to the nearest Resurrection Ship. It is likely that this will result in either transmission to the nearest resurrection facility with an appropriate body (either on the Cylon homeworld or in one of the hypothetical Final Five fleet's resurrection ships) or the boxing of the consciousness and an error message transmitted up the Cylon hierarchy. -- 01:23, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
**Moot as of the Hub, although they could have their own resurrection network. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Gina's "Trust me, in the end, we're all just human" line from [[Razor]] is ''extremely'' significant. -- 00:57, 25 June 2007 (CDT)
**Supported by dialogue in the Hub. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Guardians are still around. -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
*<s>The Ones, Fours and Fives will be boxed.</s> -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
**<s>After the Threes are unboxed (which has already been revealed in spoilers), the other models may be unboxed due to Natalie's faction comprising a larger voting bloc.</s> -- 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
*[[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] will join [[Natalie]]'s faction. -- 03:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
**Not quite disproven yet, she could've made it out. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC) (and she did)
*One of the Final Five, probably [[Galen Tyrol]], will make at least one suicide attempt. -- 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
**Arguably correct, Tigh's behaviour in Revelations was suicidal. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*One of the Final Five will die. -- 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
*The [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] is the tribe of [[w:Ophiuchus|Ophiuchus / Serpentarius]]. -- 04:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
**There will be more [[w:serpent (symbolism)|serpent-related symbolism]] connected to the Thirteenth Tribe and / or Earth. -- 04:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
*Based on some scenes in [[The Hub]] and Caprica-Six's pregnancy [[Sine Qua Non]], Helo is now a Cylon candidate. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*The love requirement is a failsafe to prevent Cylons from breeding in the wrong circumstances. -- 02:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
*The [[Resurrection Hub]] is irreplacable because it was already complete when the Significant Seven went online and they don't know the details of its' construction. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Even if the Final Five lack numbers, there is or was a Number Seven. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because the last Cylon was among those on the Basestar at the start of [[Revelations]]. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because she doesn't know who the last Cylon is. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*D'Anna only asked for four of the Final Five because she unknowingly killed the last Cylon, probably on New Caprica. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*Cavil's faction will find Earth. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Ones will not believe that Natalie's faction has identified four of the Final Five. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*The Thirteenth Tribe had a civil war on Earth. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC) (correct)
*There are survivors of the Thirteenth Tribe on Earth, but they are in a dark age. -- 06:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[The Music]] was coming from [[Starbuck's Viper]]. -- 03:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[Ben Stark]], [[Tamara Adama]] and [[Zoe Graystone]] are still around in some form. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
*Based on The Face of the Enemy and the some of the clips from YooWillKnowTheTruth, Gaeta is also a likely Cylon candidate. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*The Hybrids are the Sevens. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*The Ones wiped out the old Centurions. -- 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*The other Cylon faction has been taking some Twos, Sixes and Eights as prisoners. -- 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

===Wild speculation===
*If Baltar is not one of the [[Final Five]] then he's half-Cylon like [[Hera]], which would push the origin of humanoid Cylons back by 2 or 3 decades. -- 00:43, 1 February 2007 (CST) (more plausible now that the origin of the humanoid Cylons has been pushed back to the Cylon war)
**If Baltar is half-Cylon, the most likely candidate for his father is [[Saul Tigh]], as he is old enough and from Aerelon. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
**Kara is also a likely half-Cylon candidate. -- 02:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
*If the Cylons have an equivalent of the [[Imperious Leader]], it is probably a network of [[Hybrid]]s and similar Cylon supercomputers, however most short-term decisions are delegated to the humanoid models. -- 02:07, 6 February 2007 (CST)
**The Cylons may also have a collective consciousness. A distributed network based on swarm intelligence, connected thorugh the datastream. The network as a whole may not be sane, and may not even be self-aware. Internal Six, Internal Baltar and Kara's dreams and hallucinations of Leoben may be subroutines of the Cylon network. -- 22:45, 6 March 2007 (CST) (more plausible after the events in Crossroads, which suggest some form of involuntary or subconscious communication)
*Baltar died in the nuclear blast on Caprica, got resurrected and subconsciously blocked out the memories which contradicted his cover identity. -- 01:38, 28 February 2007 (CST) (increasingly unlikely, but not quite ruled out yet)
*In at least some of the previous cycles the Cylons (or their conterparts) wiped out the humans of the Twelve Colonies (or their counterparts) and interbred with the humans of Earth. Every modern human has at least a small amount of Cylon (or Cylon counterpart) ancestry. -- 01:48, 28 February 2007 (CST)
*Of the Final Five, at least one is obvious (such as Baltar or Starbuck), one is unexpected (such as an Adama, Saul Tigh or Cally), one is unheard of (a new character) and one was presumed dead (such as Kat, Ellen Tigh or Billy Keikeya). There could be some overlap between the categories. -- 00:31, 2 March 2007 (CST) (so far we've got Saul Tigh, who is unexpected, and Galen Tyrol, who is both obvious due to [[The Eye of Jupiter]] and [[Rapture]] and unexpected because he has a child, if Kara Thrace is a Cylon she would count as both obvious and presumed dead)
*<s>Maelstrom will have a scene in which Starbuck wakes up in a rebirthing tank and kills Leoben, although it may be in a dream. -- 00:34, 2 March 2007 (CST)</s> False
*As the "chosen one", Baltar was destined to see the [[final five]] in the [[Temple of Five]]. [[Number Three]] managed to usurp his destiny, with significant consequences. This means that [[Sacred Scrolls#The Cycle of Time|The Cycle of Time]] is not absolute and destiny can be resisted, although not without a cost. -- 00:52, 10 March 2007 (CST)
**Fighting destiny will be a major theme of [[season 4 (2008)|season 4]]. -- 23:04, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
***Kara Thrace will ultimately reject [[The Destiny|her destiny]]. -- 02:14, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*There is at least one [[Saul Tigh]] copy in the fleet with a younger, more recently grown body. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
*All twelve of the humanoid Cylon models were around during the Cylon War, and some or all of them may have been around earlier. [[Saul Tigh]] is part of the first "production run", most of the other copies we've seen (and most of the humanoid Cylon population) were "mass produced" a few years prior to the invasion, and [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Tory Foster]] were created during or slightly before the pre-invasion "production run". These "Cylon elders" from the early production run(s) are likely candidates for the Cylon leadership. -- 04:14, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
*Laura Roslin is a Cylon, but is not one of the Twelve. Either she is a prototype, in which case her declining health is due to design flaws, or she is a Cylon from the previous cycle, in which case her declining health is due to mutations accumulated over dozens of generations of cloning. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*<s>Based on the preview for [[Revelations]], William Adama could be a Cylon.</s> -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC) false
*The Hybrids are the Sevens, the unrevealed Final Five model. -- 01:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
*Kara Thrace is the dying leader. -- 22:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
*There is a Cylon version of William Adama. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
**And the original William Adama died during or before the Cylon War. -- 06:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
*[[Pythia]] was a member of the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]]. -- 00:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**Pythia is one of the Final Five. -- 06:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Hybrids are based on Pythia's genetic template. -- 06:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Lords of Kobol are heavily mythologized versions of the Thirtheenth Tribe's Cylon models. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Ones / Cavils are Zeus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Ones / Cavils are The One Whose Name Cannot Be Spoken. -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Twos / Leobens are Apollo. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Threes / D'Annas is Hera. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Fours / Simons are Asclepius or Hephasteus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Sixes is Aphrodite. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**The Eights is Athena. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**Saul Tigh is Ares. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**If Kara Thrace is a Cylon, she is Aurora. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
**If Gaius Baltar is a Cylon, he is Hephasteus. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The sacrifice of the tribes' leaders in the [[Tomb of Athena]] was part of the peace settlement at the end of the war on Kobol. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The warning that any return to Kobol would exact a price in blood refers either to Kobol being irradiated when it was abandoned or to a settlement between the factions in the war on Kobol forbidding any side from returning. -- 06:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Final Five ended the first Cylon War. -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
*The Significant Seven were created from DNA samples of Thirteenth Tribe Cylons. (plausible, we know that the Ones are based on Ellen's father) -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
**There was supposed to be a Number Seven, but the DNA samples were insufficent. (close, Cavil corrupted the Sevens' genetic template) -- 00:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

=== Hybrid prophecy speculation ===
*"But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of one splintering into many." refers to the Cylon civil war. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
**Sin refers specifically to both sides compromising their principles. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*"And then, they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning." refers to humanity, the Significant Seven and the Final Five following Kara to Earth and forging an awkward peace. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*"They must not follow her." could refer to Kara's disappearance between [[Maelstrom]] and [[Crossroads, Part 2|Crossroads]], or to how the fleet following Kara could've ruined the tentative alliance with Natalie's faction. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*"End" does not refer to destruction, it refers to the end of the journey, or the end of an era. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*Kara's role as the "harbinger of death" is much better than it sounds. It could refer to Kara's role warning others of some impending catastrophe, it could also refer to how Kara's return coincided with the return of Roslin's cancer. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*Kara's role as the herald of the apocalypse refers to how her return coincides with the awakening of four of the Final Five and the return of Roslin's visions. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*The one reborn is Kara Thrace. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
*<s>The "missing three" refers to the Ones, Fours and Fives, in other words, the Significant Seven will find the Final Five after the end of the Cylon civil war.</s> -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC) false
*In addition to referring to Earth and the Thirteenth Tribe, "the thirteenth" also refers to another Cylon or pseudo-Cylon model. -- 05:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC) (possibly correct, the thirteenth tribe were Cylons)
*"Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable." and "You will lead them all to their end." refers to generations of human-Cylon crossbreeding eventually making everyone part-Cylon. -- 00:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

=== Joke theories ===
*Although he is not aware of it, Gaius Baltar has the ability to cheat fate by injecting others with his bad karma. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Virtual Six]] will go crazy if she hasn't already. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Kara Thrace]] is safe from the Baltar curse, she already went crazy and died. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**The unnamed female Baltar aides / interns / groupies from [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]] are dead. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Tracey Anne]] is doomed. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**[[Tory Foster]] is going to die and probably take out a lot of others with her. Fortunately for her, she'll probably [[Resurrection (RDM)|get better]]. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**When Baltar got stabbed by Gaeta, it could've been his bad karma arcing back to him. Gaeta's loss of a leg could also be a non-lethal manifestation of the curse. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
**Baltar bled bad karma all over Roslin in [[The Hub]]. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*Galactica 1980 is canonically part of the previous cycle. -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
*<s>[[Cally Tyrol]] is too cute to die.</s> -- 01:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
**Cally is too cute to stay dead, therefore Cally is a Cylon, therefore Galen Tyrol cannot be Nicholas Tyrol's real father. Since she went crazy and then died horribly, the real father is probably Baltar. -- 03:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
***Two words: virtual Cally. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**[[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]'s too cute to die. -- 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*There will be a canonical pairing more creepy and twisted than the ones we've seen so far. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Right now, the most likely candidate is Kara / Leoben. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Caprica-Six / Tigh is also likely. -- 01:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
**Looking doubtful after [[No Exit]]'s revelations about Ellen and Cavil. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*Season 4 will introduce an average of at least 0.5 squick-inducing canon pairings per episode. -- 00:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
*#[[Helena Cain]] / [[Gina Inviere]] ([[Razor]]).
*#[[Gaius Baltar]] / [[Tory Foster]] ([[Six of One]]) (it's fine now, but it was creepy at the start).
*#[[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] / [[Number One|Cavil]] (hinted in [[Six of One]], confirmed in [[The Ties That Bind]]).
*#[[Natalie]] / [[Number Six#New Caprica Copies|unnamed other Six]] ([[Faith]]).
*#[[Caprica-Six]] / [[Saul Tigh]] (hinted in [[Escape Velocity]], confirmed in [[Sine Qua Non]])
*#[[Karl Agathon]] / [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer pretending to be Athena]] ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).
*<s>[[Bear McCreary]] will play the final Cylon: [[w:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]].</s> -- 06:37, 17 June 2008
**The final Cylon is the unnamed character based on Bear McCreary, he will be played by Bob Dylan. -- 02:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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Cylon Culture

2009-03-09T08:20:38Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Ideology */ updating: they're in charge

:''For information on the [[Original Series]] Cylons, see [[Cylons (TOS)]].''
:''For the sake of convenience, the term "Cylon", when not the Cylon race as a whole, generally refers to the [[humanoid Cylons]] for the purpose of this article.''

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The '''Cylon culture''' is informed by several interacting factors. Chiefly among these are [[Cylon Religion|religion]], [[Cylon History|history]], their mechanical and cybernetic origins, their socio-political and metaphysical ideologies; and interestingly, [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] culture incorporates certain aspects of Colonial culture, [[History of the Twelve Colonies|history]], and [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)|religion]].

== Religion ==

:''Main article: [[Cylon Religion]]''

The [[Significant Seven]], with the exception of [[Cavil]], display mostly high degrees of religiosity, though their interpretations of the monotheistic Cylon religion follow individualized patterns: for example, [[Number Six]]'s faith appears to based on revelation, while other Cylons may tend more toward intellectualism ([[Simon]]) or militant extremism ([[Number Three]], [[Number Five]]). Cavil appears to have an atheistic outlook. The prophetic [[Leoben]] may be the Cylon equivalent of an [[oracle]]. Sharon Agathon hinted at the historicity of the [[Lords of Kobol]] but called their divinity into question. She claimed that the Cylons know more about Colonial religion than the Colonials themselves ([[Home, Part II]]).

The personality and religious outlook of each Cylon may be modeled on human archetypes. It is unknown how the genetic source material to create the humanoid models was obtained. It is also unknown whether the Cylon god is a metaphysical construct or an actual entity, possibly another type of Cylon, and whether the Cylon god or the Cylons' concept of god existed prior to or during the first [[Cylon War]].

== Human influences ==

Cylon culture is also informed by their mechanical origins and biomechanical nature. Although the Cylons are capable of great resiliency, either by design or by choice they emulate specific human behavior related to their physiology: they eat, drink, sleep, dream, sweat and breathe, though it remains unknown if all or some of this behavior is actually necessary for the Cylons to function. Although Leoben, according to Caprica-Six, died after being sucked out of an airlock, this doesn't necessarily mean that breathing is a vital function for humanoid Cylons. Leoben might have committed suicide in order to resurrect at a Cylon facility ([[Flesh and Bone]]).

In addition, there are behaviors unique to Cylons, such as [[projection]], the ability to [[download]], and the ability to physically interface with the [[datastream]] as well as with Colonial computer systems. These aspects are an integral part of their existence, but result strictly from their unique physiology. In most other instances they instead strive to emulate humans. This is explained by them being a relatively young society, which has yet to fully form itself and is still in the process of finding its own identity. Therefore, while the Cylons claim to hate mankind and its way of life, they can't fully disassociate themselves from it, creating a somewhat paradoxical culture.

== Ideology ==

Like any ideology, Cylon ideology contains many paradoxical inclinations. The process by which a group of Cylons (for example, the leaders of the occupational force on [[New Caprica]], or the individuals who collectively command [[basestar]]s) make decisions is democratic and egalitarian. Consensus is always preferable to even a minority dissent. This egalitarianism seems to apply to the Cylons' social life, with some notable exceptions, most primarily the "[[heroes of the Cylon]]" - according to Three the Cylons never had celebrities until Boomer and Caprica-Six ([[Downloaded]]) - and also by the force of personality (known in anthropological circles as charismatic authority) which certain individuals of different models seem to possess over the other copies in their series. This is displayed at one time or another by any individual Cylon.

Anthropologically, charismatic authority is consistent with an egalitarian ethos. However, the egalitarianism of the humanoid Cylons does not apply to the other types of Cylons at their disposal; not even to the sentient, but seemingly insane, [[hybrid]]s, nor to the semi-sentient animalistic [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]], and certainly not to the [[Cylon Centurion|Centurions]], which are not sentient. According to [[Sharon Agathon]], the limited cognitive abilities of the newer Centurions are a safety precaution, designed to prevent a machine revolution among the Cylons themselves which could lead to civil war ([[Precipice]]).

In the absence of the Final Five, the seven remaining modern humanoid Cylon models lead the entire Cylon species.

== Technology and architecture ==

Although Cylon military technology is exotic and partially biological in nature, the Cylons also make use of technology likely of Cylon manufacture, but of more Colonial design. This includes [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series|weapons technology]] (projectile weapons, conventional and nuclear warheads, and cybernetic weapons) as well as medical technology, as seen in the "[[farms]]" of Caprica and in the hospital on [[New Caprica]], which included Colonial-style computers and medical equipment, in stark contrast to the exotic interfaces seen aboard the baseships. This is logical, since the Cylons are of Colonial origin, and while their technology diverged from that in certain areas - mainly cybernetics and bio-technology - its basics are human.

Much, though not all, of Cylon architecture, including the conveyor tunnel on the tylium asteroid ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]), and the designs of their spacecraft seems to eschew right angles, much as Colonial aesthetics do. There are some exceptions, such as the [[New Caprica Detention Center|prison]] on New Caprica, which like many Colonial buildings on Caprica retained many right angles. However, it should be noted, that these buildings were strictly functional and needed to be built with little resources, thus little attention could be paid to aesthetics.

The interior of the [[Basestar (RDM)|basestars]] is functional, yet aesthetic; human, yet alien. While relatively simple shapes dominate the geometry and surfaces together with water and light, the few visible pieces of furniture are clearly human in origin and more elaborate and luxurious than what one might expect from the Cylons. <ref>According to the podcast for "[[Torn]]" this look was chosen to evoke one of the final scenes in the movie ''[[w:2001: A Space Odyssey|2001: A Space Odyssey]]''</ref>

==References==
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Islanded in a Stream of Stars

2009-03-09T07:53:47Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Questions */ expanding question about the Eight considering Saul Tigh to be her father

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== Overview ==
As ''Galactica'''s condition continues to get worse, [[William Adama|Adama]] is faced with the possibility of abandoning ship. In the meantime, [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] winds up forming an unexpected bond with [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] learns a surprising truth about [[Kara Thrace]]

==Summary==

===Teaser===
* With [[Sharon Valerii]]'s kidnapping of [[Hera Agathon]] and her escape, the spatial disruption caused by the close-proximity [[FTL|jump]] of her [[Raptor]] causes an immense breech in the port side of the alligator's head of ''[[Galactica]]''
* A [[projection]] of little Hera in [[CIC]]. She sits atop the command and control console with models of ''Galactica'', three [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]] and a [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]]. She moves the ''Galactica'' model in to collide with the baseship as the projection transitions to show the actual ''Galactica'' and her [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]].
* Inside, crew of all kinds, both from the allied Cylons and Colonials, are trying to seal the breech. Tempers are high: a [[Number Six]] and another human crew member argue. Eventually a [[Number Eight]] comes to break the two up.

* In Admiral [[William Adama|Adama's]] quarters, [[Ellen Tigh]] speaks about Hera's abduction as [[Lee Adama]], [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Saul Tigh]] listen. Ellen believes that [[Cavil]] will take Hera to the [[Cylon homeworld]] for study, to determine how Cylon procreation is possible. Saul completes Ellen's thought by saying that she knows the Cylon colony's location.
* While Lee Adama objects to the disproportionate risk in retrieving Hera, not only does Ellen indicate that the child is important for the survival of all the Cylons, but Thrace tells Lee that Hera is vital to the human's survival as well.
* She explains how Hera wrote some [[The Music|music]]--notes that Thrace's father wrote--the same song that switched on the [[Final Five]] and led them all to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]].
* But the admiral is "had it up to here" with prophesies and destinies. He doesn't want to endanger what's left of his people.
* When Saul convinces Adama to at least check out the colony, Adama permits a [[Heavy Raider]] to go, preferring that the Agathon's not know.

* In the Agathon's quarters, [[Sharon Agathon|Sharon]] is breaking down, as her [[Kara Agathon|husband]] tries to get her to talk and vent her feelings.

* [[Laura Roslin]], now in sickbay and noticeably weakened, experiences the [[Opera House]] dream of Hera running through it, eventually being picked up by a Number Six and [[Gaius Baltar]]. She wakes to find the admiral at her side, and tells him of the dream.

* A seam on the battlestar's hull fractures with cataclysmic results. Dozens of people, both Cylon and human, are trapped inside, the rushing air and falling pressure sealing their fate.
* The Six and human male that argued earlier are closest to a bulkhead door. With all her strength, she pushes the Colonial in front and to the door's edge as two other Colonials pull him in. She screams to close the door behind her and lock it.
* As the door is sealed, the Six loses her grip and is blown out into space.

==Episode summary==

Lee Adama struggles to convince the newly-elected Fleet Quorum that ''Galactica'' can be saved, but many councilors are worried about becoming dependent on the Cylons for military protection. Once the Galactica meets its inevitable demise, the basestar will be the logical choice for the new flagship. [[Number Six#Sonja|Sonja]] assures them that the Cylons will continue to respect William Adama's military authority when he transfers to the Basestar, along with the rest of Galactica's crew and their planes and munitions. Other representatives begin calling first dibs on certain parts of ''Galactica'', which will of course be stripped once its time is up. Laura Roslin's cancer is killing her, and she is now confined to bed in the ship's hospital. She gradually convinces Admiral Adama that he has to abandon Galactica and move everyone over to the Cylon Basestar. Ellen Tigh tries to convince Colonel Saul Tigh that Roslin is right, but he refuses: The decision is Adm. Adama's alone.

Karl Agathon's marriage to Sharon Valerii is falling apart, as she cannot overcome the loss of her child, Hera, or the knowledge that her husband had sexual intercourse with the Number Eight known as "Boomer". Trying to save his marriage, Helo tries to get Adm. Adama to approve the launching of a Raptor to find Hera. Adama has already permitted Sonja, the Cylon representative on the new Quorum, to secretly take a Heavy Raider to the Cylon homeworld, known as "[[the Colony]]". The Colony though has already been moved to a new location by Cavil prior to the [[Cylon Civil War]]; sending Helo out in a Raptor to look for it would be a suicide mission. Adama finally refuses to give permission, to which Helo appears devastated.

Gaius Baltar continues his religious broadcasts to the Fleet, and his latest message focuses on angels walking among humanity. Baltar encounters Caprica Six, who rejects his romantic overtures. She tells him she's changed and that he has not. Baltar breaks down over the loss of his former lover. Later, Kara Thrace meets Baltar while they are both in the ship's head. Kara tells him that she died on Earth, and discovered her own body there. She gives him her dog tag to analyze. He scrapes blood from the dog tag, and finds it came from a body which was already dead. When the ''Galactica'' crew, Cylons, and Baltar's believers meet on ''Galactica'''s flight deck to bury those who died in the hull breach, Baltar reveals what he discovered about Starbuck and calls her an angel. He preaches about eternal life, but Starbuck slaps him and the service breaks up. Later, Apollo meets with Starbuck and offers her his unconditional love and support. They part as friends. Starbuck puts a photo of herself on the memorial wall of the dead.

Aboard the stolen Raptor, Hera keeps crying for her mother, infuriating Boomer. Boomer almost sedates the child, but cannot bring herself to do so; they keep jumping toward their destination. In an attempt to calm Hera, Boomer reveals her "Cylon projection" dreamworld to Hera. Hera can see the world, too, and bonds with Boomer. Boomer begins to develop strong emotional ties to the child. When the two arrive at the "colony", a Cylon base on top of a small, rocky planetoid, Cavil takes Hera from Boomer and declares that soon she will have many playmates. The child weeps and calls out for Boomer, and Boomer also sheds copious tears unwilling to part from Hera.

After an emotional breakdown, Adm. Adama realizes the ship must be abandoned. He meets with Col. Tigh, who initially resists the evacuation order but gives in after a brief discussion. All civilians are to be removed over the next few days, arrangements are to be made to put the military personnel aboard the basestar, and ''Galactica'' is to be stripped for parts. Rather than let the ship break down, Adama intends to "send her off in style."

A Number Eight and Number Six have hooked [[Samuel Anders]] up to a [[Hybrid]] tank in a an attempt to help his brain reboot, but there is no apparent change. Kara Thrace goes to Anders' bedside alone, and decides to kill him rather than let him live in a vegetative state. But as she aims a gun at his head, Anders comes awake. He babbles like a Hybrid, but his ravings also indicate that he's aware of the threat to his life. With one hand, he subdues Starbuck and she drops the pistol. Anders continues to babble, but some of his rants indicate that he is reintegrating, perhaps even repairing, his mind. ''Galactica'''s power and temperature fluctuations were because Anders was connecting to the ship, as the Hybrid tank and the Cylon polymer used to repair the battlestar are giving him the power to interact with the ship's computers. Tigh deems this too dangerous to continue, as Anders might jump the ship. Anders is disconnected from the Hybrid tank, and he falls into a coma again.

A few days later, Starbuck meets with the comatose Anders. She brings Hera's drawing of the song (the song which helped awaken the Final Five in the episode "Crossroads", and about which further complications were revealed in the episode prior to this one, "Someone to Watch Over Me"), and states assertively, that together, they will discover what is going on. She reconnects him to the ship's power systems. He awakens again, and begins speaking in the kind of a hybrid.

== Notes ==

* The title comes from the book ''[[w:The Outermost House|The Outermost House]]'', by [[w:Henry Beston|Henry Beston]], where he chronicles his time spent living on an isolated beach in Cape Cod. In the chapter "Night on the Great Beach" he wrote, "For a moment of night we have a glimpse of ourselves and of our world ''islanded in its stream of stars''— pilgrims of mortality, voyaging between horizons across eternal seas of space and time."

* Two original Cylon Raiders can be seen inside the Colony.

* [[Ellen Tigh]] leads the Cylons in performing the [[Prayer to the Cloud of Unknowing]] at the service.

== Analysis ==
*When [[Caprica-Six]] was at [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar's]] congregation and he spoke to her about hearing about her living arrangement and offered a place to stay. From this it seems after the in utero death of [[Liam|Liam Tigh]], [[Saul Tigh]] and Caprica Six have broken up as a couple. As a side effect, Col. Tigh has reverted to his "us" and them" attitude toward Cylons as a whole despite himself and his wife being Cylons.

*[[Chief Tyrol]] was no where to be seen in this episode. Even crewman [[Dealino]] gives a report to both [[Admiral Adama]] and [[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]] of what the attitudes of the Cylons, particularly the [[Leoben]]s, thought as to how many jumps ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' had left in her. [[Bear McCreary]] reveals<ref>http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=1671</ref> there is an extended scene on the DVD which shows Chief Tyrol is being held in ''Galactica'''s brig for his part in [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer's]] escape.

*[[Hera Agathon|Hera]] has the power of [[projection]], which she demonstrated at the beginning of the episode playing in a projection of CIC on top of the tactical light table with the ship miniatures including a model of [[Galactica]] which she pushed, a [[Basestar (RDM)|Cylon baseship]] and three [[Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]]. It is not known if Hera was ever in CIC but [[Sharon Agathon|her mother]] has been. This indicates strongly that Hera and [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] have been sharing projections for months probably years, conceivably since birth. Also included in the projection was the embers of welding torches, structural repairs are also going on in ''Galactica'''s corridors and Hera almost certainly saw them. She very likely thought they were pretty and incorporated it into her projection.
**Hera's projection may be prophetic in nature. She pushes the model of ''Galactica'' into a model of a basestar, which could hint at an eventual confrontation between ''Galactica'' and the Cylons, and quite possibly the destruction of ''Galactica''. The [[Pegasus (RDM)|battlestar ''Pegasus'']] was destroyed in a similar fashion by ramming a basestar.
*In sickbay, Adama and Roslin reminces about New Caprica and about the cabin they wanted to build but can't. This scene is in its own way similar to the scene in which Boomer and Tyrol shared a projection of the house they had intended to build on Picon. As humans, Adama and Roslin can only conjure up fond memories or regrets both couples knowing that it was never to be, building their dream houses.

== Questions ==
* What does Cavil mean when he tells Hera that she will soon have new playmates?
* Will ''Galactica'' be stripped after all?
* How conscious is Anders?
* Can the Colony be found by ''Galactica'''s planes?
* How can Baltar tell that Starbuck's blood came from a dead body?
* Is the planet that Boomer jumps in front of Jupiter? The color patterns are similar, the rocky moon could be Ganymede or Callisto, and there is a hint of the Great Red Spot at the lower left.
* Might Boomer defect from Cavil because of her new attachment to Hera?
* Does the presence of First Cylon War-era Cylon Raiders at the Colony indicate the presence of older-model [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Cylon Centurions]], too?
* Does Cavil intend to pursue biological reproduction, recreate the resurrection process, or both?
* Do the Eights consider the rest of the Final Five their parents? Do other models also regard some or all of the Final Five as parental figures?

== Official Statements ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
* ''[[Saul Tigh|Colonel Tigh]] fulfills a request to comfort to a dying [[Number Eight]]:''
:'''Number Eight:''' Thank you.
:'''Tigh:''' Thank me? For what?
:'''Number Eight:''' For the privilege of finally being able to meet my father before I die.
:'''Tigh:''' You shouldn't be thanking me. I spent most of my life trying to kill your kind.
:'''Number Eight:''' [[The Music|There's too much confusion]].
:''(The Eight flatlines)''

* ''[[Bill Adama]] is talking with Kara Thrace about looking for Hera:''
: '''Adama:''' In other words, it's our destiny to go after her, right?
: '''Thrace:''' Right.
: '''Adama:''' Wrong. I've had it up to here with destiny, prophecy, with God or the Gods. Look where it's left us. The ass end of nowhere; nearly half of our people are gone; Earth, a worthless cinder; and I can't even walk down the halls of my ship without wondering if I'm gonna catch a bullet for getting us into this mess.

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
* [[Donnelly Rhodes]] as Dr. [[S. Cottle]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]<ref>[http://www.buddytv.com/articles/battlestar-galactica/exclusive-interview-rekha-shar-20017.aspx Exclusive Interview: Rekha Sharma of 'Battlestar Galactica' - BuddyTV]</ref>
* [[Iliana Gomez-Martinez]] as [[Hera Agathon]]
* [[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Number One]]
*[[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Costanza|Brenden "Hotdog" Constanza]]
* [[David Patrick Green]] as Captain [[Xeno Fenner]]
* [[Kerry Norton]] as [[Layne Ishay]]
* [[Lara Gilchrist]] as [[Paulla Schaffer]]
* [[Leela Savasta]] as [[Tracy Anne]]
* [[Darcy Laurie]] as [[Dealino]]
* [[Susan Hogan]] Captain [[Doyle Franks]]
* [[William Samples]] as Captain [[Jules Tarney]]

== References ==

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Talk:Islanded in a Stream of Stars/Archive 1

2009-03-08T08:14:11Z

Gordon Ecker: Baltar's test

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==Title==
''Islanded in a Stream of Stars'' [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].

No idea if this is supposed to be 'Islanded' or 'Island' or 'Landed' or 'I Landed'. Definitely a weird title.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, the title comes from a poem by Henry Beston :-) That explains that then.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 12:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Jupiter and Callisto ==

*I believe that Boomer and Hera just jumped next to Callisto with Jupiter in the background at 15 minutes.
[[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 03:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
**It is just a common Gas Giant. Real life planet search for the past 13 years for extra-Solar System worlds have revealed that the galaxy is full of Gas Giants. It is finding th Earth type planets that is hard so far with present technology. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 07:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Old-style Cylon-Raiders ==

The facility whither boomer took Hera has both old-style and new-style Cylon-Raiders.

[[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 08:02, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

== Are we not dividing the episode summaries in to acts? Bit late to change? ==

*For about the past two seasons the summaries were divided into Teaser, Act I, Act 2, Act 3 and Act 4 are we switching up again, because if we are switching up again it will make it inconsistent with all the episodes over the past two seasons. I also don't like it because it comes in the last three episodes. Why change now? [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 06:34, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Starbucks photo ==

The article states ""Starbuck puts a photo of herself on the memorial wall of the dead. "". Can anyone recall from (previous episodes when she returned from the dead) whether she previously tore it down? maybe she did not put it up, but was just momentarily holding it. [[User:Xlynx|xlynx]] 07:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Baltar's test ==
IMO the analysis section should mention that baltar's tests did not prove that the corpse is the original Kara. All the tests really prove are that "Sometimes a Great Notion Kara" is made of dead tissue genetically identical to "original Kara" (we've known that "Crossroads Kara" matched "original Kara" since [[He That Believeth In Me]]), and that neither "Crossroads Kara" nor "SaGN Kara" is a significant seven type Cylon (we still don't know if Baltar's tests work on final five type cylons). From a narrative perspective, it would be anticlimactic if the corpse on Earth turned out to be a hoax, however the possibility has not yet been ruled out by aired episodes. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 08:14, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Kara Thrace/Archive 1

2009-03-08T06:54:19Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Starbuck-A */

As far as you actually see in the episode 'The Farm' there is only one new abdominal scar on Starbuck. This would suggest that only one of her ovaries has been removed, not two. The podcast may have more precise information, however.

:The phrase "[[CAG]] Second in Command" is a kind of awkward consturction. Can anybody think of a better way to describe her role? [[User:Rocky8311|Rocky8311]] 21:41, October 16, 2005 (EDT)

:: I don't believe that she actually has a title. She's an instructor and Viper pilot... and a crack shot with a sniper rifle. (How she got ''that'' talent is likely a subject of interest...) -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (EDT)

::: I agree on all counts. The thing is that we know she's understood to be in charge whenever Apollo is indisposed, but CAG Second in Command just doesn't sound quite right. I just don't know what would sound better [[User:Rocky8311|Rocky8311]] 23:27, October 16, 2005 (EDT)

::::Senior pilot after Capt. Lee Adama? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:35, 16 October 2005 (EDT)

:::::Vice-CAG? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 15:45, 8 December 2005 (EST)

:::::: Military wise, she would be the Air Group Executive Officer were she second in command of the pilots. [[User:Joemc72|Joemc72]] 17:34, 18 January 2006 (EST)

==Verb Tense for Zak Stuff==
I reviewed the standards and conventions page, and it seems like the Zak Adama stuff really deserved the past tense since it occured "prior to the Mini-Series". The example in the second paragraph references Zak's funeral, which seems to be a pretty fitting example to apply here. So does all the pre-mini-series go to past tense, or are we going to 100% present tense (in which case we'd probably need to change the standards and conventions page). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:28, 18 January 2006 (EST)

: We can change the standards if we want (I mean--''we''wrote tham, after all), but I think it makes sense... As I was editing that, I was already getting confused about tenses and such, and I only really touched the one paragraph. Joemc72 and I already sorted it out on [[User talk:Day#Past vs Present tense|my Talk page]]. --[[User:Day|Day]] 17:31, 18 January 2006 (EST)

:: I went ahead and reverted it back. [[User:Joemc72|Joemc72]] 17:32, 18 January 2006 (EST)

:::SV is correct. Events from the miniseries on are present tense unless confusing. Flashbacks of events prior to miniseries and regular series should be worked as past tense. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:10, 3 February 2006 (EST)

==Paging Dr. Freud==

In the miniseries, Thrace doesn't tell Adama she doesn't ''have'' a big enough dipstick for his job, but that ''she's'' not a big enough dipstick. It's one line, but this is an unintentionally funny rendering of the quote... if you consider all the folks who were against Starbuck being a girl... [[User:Below|Below]] 16:20, 2 February 2006 (EST)
:Thrace has authority issues when crossed, yes. Not as cavalier about it as the original Starbuck, but then, this is a darker world. When compelled to, however, Thrace can obviously manage the work, even excel. She's still second CAG, now that Adama has returned to that status, and can effectively lead an attack as CAGs do, title or no. Thrace does have the "dipstick"; but she HATES having to deal with mentalities like Tigh. But she hates being out of the pilot's seat more, which gives her a greater sense of control than anything. I'd have Thrace plan any attack, anytime. And, in keeping with the dipstick metaphor, you can always expect her to be on top in almost anything she does. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:08, 3 February 2006 (EST)
Grin. I was thinking that an additional dimension to her authority issues was seen in the last few episodes. I think it would be interesting to integrate into this article if possible, but tonight's episode might have some more to say first. We know she had an abusive mother who served in the military, and identifies with her father. The Admiral is a positive father figure to her, but she's disgusted by Tigh, especially his drinking. (Was alcohol her mother's personal tinderbox?)
Enter Cain. On the one hand, Cain identifies with Thrace and gives her positive reinforcement: eg Do you always get what you want, I usually do. In my viewing, Sackhoff plays it as being both nervous and touched by Cain's approval. (Her mother had said she'd never account to anything: here's a much higher ranking woman claiming that she's capable of greatness.) Pretty clear that Cain wants to mentor Thrace, and sees a "younger self" in the pilot. At the same time, it's not a stretch to parallel the violent, volatile Cain with Thrace's absent, abusive mother. (Michelle Forbes would be a really interesting Medea.)
So Kara is being asked to choose between father figure Adama and mother figure Cain, and shooting Cain may feel like a kind of matricide.
Usually when TV shows or movies set up a young character against "two parents," one good, one bad, it's a young man torn between two fathers or father figures (witness "A Bronx Tale," "Platoon," "Star Wars", many others), so it's interesting to see that dynamic with a young woman. One more reason I love watching this show. [[User:Below|Below]] 11:18, 3 February 2006 (EST)

:Oh yes; for the past few weeks I've been repeatedly asking on the official site's RDM blog thread if they ''intentionally'' wrote it that Starbuck was won over by Cain because it was like her mother giving her the recognition that she never got. Of course, I ask a lot of things there....(I was annoyed when in his recent blog update yesterday A) people sometimes ask questions he's already answered many months ago (like, "Where is Boxey" and "Why don't we see the engine room?"), so B) he didn't realize this (I don't blame him, he's got a lot of work to do) so he wasted a blog entry answering questions that were already answered....except one, btw; apparently, the Presidential election is coming up soon. Probably not by the season 2 finale, obviously, but I got the impression he's playing around with script stuff for it now, and who knows? It might be the season 3 cliffhanger...or at most the season 3 finale. This, of course, would prove that they have indeed jumped several months ahead (once again, how could 2 months pass during Flight of the Phoenix?...but I digress....). --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 11:46, 3 February 2006 (EST)

:: How, you ask? Easily. See, all that we saw on the show was actually in ''fast forward''... See, for that month, Bill had decided that everyone was to do everything at ''one sixth'' of normal speed... Thus, all that took two months. I thought that was obvious. *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] 03:01, 4 February 2006 (EST)

==Scar==

What's with the "Kara is CAG in Scar" business? It looked like Apollo was still in charge to me. --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 00:27, 4 February 2006 (EST)

:Kara was responsible for briefings and I'm pretty sure I heard her referred to as CAG a few times in the episode. --Ltcrashdown 00:29, 4 February 2006 (EST)

::Negative, Lieutenant. Kat said to Kara, "The CAG wants us spread out so we can cover more ground. It's right here in the briefings." I'm pretty sure that's accurate, anyway. Someone check me. Anyway, I thought it was clear she was talking about Lee. Now... Why was she doing all the briefings? I have no idea... I thought for a bit that maybe Lee was on ''Pegasus'' doing some kind of fleet-wide-CAG duties, but ''Peggie'' was off protecting the Fleet, so he'd probably not be jumping back and forth to almost have sex with Kara and all that. --[[User:Day|Day]] 02:56, 4 February 2006 (EST)

::Because Lee has seniority over Kara (both are Captains, but he's been one longer, etc) he is in charge of their whole widescale operation. I mean, the guy can't be awake 24 horus a day and be everywhere at once. He needs to delegate duties now and again like this. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 02:59, 4 February 2006 (EST)

==Serial Number==
It's partially visible on the dogtag she gave Anders in "Downloaded": ?? 462753 - the two question marks would be letters, and I think the second one is a T, but Lucy Lawless's hand is covering the first. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:30, 26 February 2006 (EST)

I found that Galacticastation has a great screencape [http://www.galacticastation.com/Screencaps/S2/218/bscap414.htm here] of her ID tag. Can you guys tell what it is? It's not a T, it's....I can't tell if it says "ser" for "service number" (thus, not actually part of of the number), or "3er"...which seems odd as this is lowercase.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 19:03, 21 June 2006 (CDT)
::My first impression is that it is "ser" for serial or service number for the reason it is not together with the number. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:36, 21 June 2006 (CDT)

:Yeah, but Helo has a "PK" prefix to his serial number and Boomer had a "T" prefix. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 20:07, 21 June 2006 (CDT)

: Just a note, in "[[Collaborators]]" we see the full shot on her id tags during her conversation with Anders. It is prefixed by "ser" (sans quotes). If anyone can get a screencap to confirm, that'd be nice. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:32, 3 November 2006 (EST)
:It says "ser 462753". Screencap here: [http://galacticastation.com/Screencaps/s3/304/lowres/bscap381.htm] --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:40, 3 November 2006 (EST)
:: Thought so. Thanks Serenity. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:45, 3 November 2006 (EST)

== Major Pre-Season 3 Revision ==

As with the central characters [[William Adama]], [[Laura Roslin]], and [[Gaius Baltar]], I've heavily concised this article, removing extraneous episode information, to prepare it for season 3 information. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:37, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
:I suggest marking this article for cleanup and revision. Kara's biography is still a bit too long and quite messy - it's actually one big unclear stream of facts. I think it should be divided into a few parts, significant and dividing episodes being "Kobol's Last Gleaming", "Home", "Lay Down Your Burdens" and "Collaborators". -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 03:42, 3 November 2006 (EST)
:I agree to the cleanup and revision of this article, particularly the content added since season 3, as it is inconsistently written. (I've tried to clean it up, but a rewrite is in order for tone issues.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:29, 3 November 2006 (EST)

== Socrata Thrace? ==

I've removed this reference because the reference was far too vague; the reference pertains to Thrace's mother, "Socrata".

: ''[[Socrata]] (revealed in TV Guide Magazine)''

If anyone can be specific as to the reference, including but not limited to page number, issue number, publication date, et al, please feel free to add it back in. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 19:49, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

Done and done. I refrained from the context, though, because what little there is I fear maybe spoilery. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 07:34, 11 December 2006 (CST)

=='''Kara Thrace DEAD?'''==
Now I'm disappointed in Battlestar Galactica. Starbuck was killed off Sunday night or at least we are led to believe she is dead. I like to think there is more to this than what was shown.--[[User:Avazina|Avazina]] 20:21, 6 March 2007 (CST)
:She is definitely dead, but that means nothing in fiction. You're probably right. Don't feel too disappointed; the classical heroes of Greek mythology suffered and died often to fulfill their missions. We're very used to our western heroes always riding off into the sunset to fight another day. Some day the sun will no longer rise. There was a bit in the episode that suggests that Kara is visiting the space between life and death; we'll see. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:47, 6 March 2007 (CST)
::Don't worry, she's merely ascended to another plane of existence. She'll be back next season as an Ancient. I mean, Final Five. Wow, deja vu Atlantis. --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 12:49, 7 March 2007 (CST)
:::There's two reasons I'm not accepting her as dead. First, there was heavy foreshadowing in Rapture and Maelstrom hinting that she may be a Cylon. Second, she did not die the way the hero with an important destiny is supposed to. If she died in Resurrection Ship, Scar or The Passage I'd accept it. If she got captured by the Cylons and died trying to escape I'd accept it. If she got captured by the Cylons, decided she had no hope of escape or rescue and killed herself in a final act of defiance against Leoben I'd accept it. I won't accept this until the final five are revealed. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 17:19, 7 March 2007 (CST)
::::I stand by my idea that she'll be the first of the RDM series' [[Beings of Light]]. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:27, 8 March 2007 (CST)
:::::Didn't she say something like episodes 13 and 19 will be very important for her character? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 12:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)
::::::Eick said that 16 (Maelstrom) and 19 (Crossroads Pt. II) will have a lot of revelations on Lee and Kara's romance. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 14:50, 8 March 2007 (CST)
:::::::I think that Starbuck will be back, but not Katee Sackhoff. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 15:19, 8 March 2007 (CST)
::::::::Interesting idea... how do you think they'd implement it? (If it were to happen, that is.) --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 15:25, 8 March 2007 (CST)
:::::::::I think the two most likely possibilities are that Lee or Anders finds a note or letter among Kara's belongings, or that Kara is revealed to be a Cylon. I don't think they'll recast her because it's a tacky and overused soap opera and pulp sci-fi cliche. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 02:00, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::::::Kara cant be a cylon because she was a child and Cylons do not make copies of already or once living people. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 06:54, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::::::::Kara remembers being a child. Baltar remembers being a child too, that doesn't disqualify him, and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|Boomer]] also probably has false childhood memories. And Socrata could be another Cylon, or a hallucination, there's no proof that anyone other than Kara saw her. I'm not saying she's a Cylon, I'm just saying that the possibility hasn't been eliminated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 20:46, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::::::::::AFAIK, Socrata served in the 1st war. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:52, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::::::::::Yes, Socrata served in the first war. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 22:22, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::::::::::::According to Kara's own memories her mother was a veteran of the first war, I'm not aware of any third-party corroboration, and it's an established fact that Cylon sleeper agents have false memories. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 00:38, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::::::::::::Socrata received some kind of medal for service in the war. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 05:59, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::::::::::::::And Boomer received elephant sculptures from her parents when she went to Fleet Academy. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 06:50, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::::::::::::::There's a difference. There must be records in military archives of Socrata's medal (If any archives still exist, that is). Records that date back to the first war. The Cylons weren't infiltrating then. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:51, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::::::::::::::::Who saw or heard of Socrata and had both the motivation and the opportunity to check the military records? We know that Boomer managed to get past any background checks and identity verification the colonial military may have used. We also know that colonial computer security was extremely lax during the fall of the twelve colonies. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 19:06, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
One possibility is that Thrace (in a past life as the Lord of Kobol, Aurora) helped ''build'' the Temple of Five, knew what the Earth hologram was in "Home, Part II" because she experienced it before, and that, while we may not see her again, bodily, Thrace will be the guiding force (through artifacts and other finds) that will be reflected in not-too-subtle messages on the path, leaving clues as to the clue's author (Thrace). Perhaps Kara Thrace, not Laura Roslin, is the "dying leader" in the Pythian Prophecy. Just a wild speculation, but it fits with some clues, particularly the Eye. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:40, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:I still think Starbuck is the first of the RDM [[Beings of Light]]. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 06:01, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
---Bruzer you know part of my theory but for everyone here I'll post it as well. I personaly belive it will come down to Starbuck being a "Jesus" figure from a Lord of Kobol I'm not 100% sure how the writers will make this happen but I think what we saw in that ep was her basically going to meet "daddy". The speculation about her being one of the final 5 isn't true, she is meant for much more then that. I also think in addition to the final 5 we will see the Lords of Kobol on Sunday, this will be the biggest shock of the year as well. You know how the writers like to take us, make us expect to be surprised one way but shock us with something new in the finales. We may even see Baltar be found not guilty, on a side note I think he's the same as Starbuck here but his "daddy" is who I will call Hades, the Fallen Lord who became the Cylon god. --[[User:Hentai Jeff|Hentai Jeff]] 05:49, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

==='''Kara Thrace is back!!'''===
I wondered how they were going to play out Kara's "Death" and I'm satisfied if not even more intrigued by the out come. Glad she is back.--[[User:Avazina|Avazina]] 22:39, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== The Destiny ==

Not wanting to separate this into its own article, and knowing that this article may not grow for a while (if ever), I added some [[BW:CJ#Derived Content|sourced speculation]] on Thrace's destiny based on series information in an attempt to tie it together. Hopefully it may enlighten some readers as to the sum data on what is known and lead some insight for the character's actions in the future (if any). Ron Moore does [[Podcast:Maelstrom|note]] that the character's "destiny" was not merely to die in a Viper, so this likelihood of something about the character being revealed in season 4 is a probability. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:37, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
:As I have said. '''[[Beings of Light|BEING. OF. FRAKKING. LIGHT.]]''' --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 20:57, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

== Death Confirmed? ==
In the podcast for Crossroads, Part II:
"Did her death have any meaning? Her death didn't have meaning, but the resurrection of Kara does."
Looks like she really bought it. How the resurrection was facilitated is the big question... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:38, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
:It could also refer to a symbolic death and resurrection. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 19:24, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

== Kinda funny ==

Some of you might find [http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/061226.html this "Sheldon" comic] amusing. I did. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 20:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
:Perfect. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:45, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

== Young Kara photo ==

We should probably add a screenshot of Kara when she was younger somewhere here. It should be available from "[[Maelstrom]]". -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 18:38, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
:Done --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:15, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

== By Your Command ==
While visiting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maelstrom_%28Battlestar_Galactica%29 Wikipedia's article about Maelstrom], I noticed a neat trivia piece that I have confirmed independently. Right before Kara's Viper explodes at the climax of "[[Maelstrom]]", if one listens closely (on a DD 5.1 system or with headphones, if one has the iTunes download), one can hear the distinctive voice of an original series (or Guardian, as per the events of "[[Razor]]") Cylon Centurion say "By your command" (the word "command" is muffled by the explosion). At first I thought it was some sound effect used to illustrate the stress of the gas giant's atmosphere on Kara's Viper, but the words "By your" are clearly discernable. I'm not sure if this is something for placement in either the Maelstrom or Kara Thrace articles, so I will leave this up to y'all's better judgment. Thank you. {{unsigned|Jonfucius}}
: I've seen this discussion on the Skiffy boards after the episode aired... Frankly, I never heard it myself, even when this discussion first started way back when... It would be nice if we had a soundbyte to test, because I'm sure [[User:Peter Farago|Peter]] can take a crack at it and give us something definitive one way or another. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:35, 3 December 2007 (CST)
::I have a casual (at best) sound setup and my VCR seems so to be setting foot with its last legs and threading a warbling in the audio, but I played this and I can ceratinly hear an old school Cylon metallic noise as the Viper explodes, so I'm willing to believe this, but I'd prefer to hear a sample with a better audible pitch. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 16:26, 5 December 2007 (CST)

==Season 3 - last episode==
Regarding the last part of the article there is a point that says that when Kara re-appears near Lee's viper she's riding a brand new Viper Mark II. Cause i read the wiki just after i saw the episode i think this is totally wrong imho. I have saved a screenshot , just at the moment camera seems to go away from both ships http://picasaweb.google.com/billbrando and you can clearly see the differences at the engine part and at the wings structure. If Lee is indeed flying a Viper Mark II what is Kara riding? {{unsigned|Bbm4n}}
:The point is that the Viper has a pristine paintjob and isn't scratched up like all the others (though that's only said in [[The Destiny]] and [[Ionian Nebula]] I think). Of course Lee is in a Mark VII. The article doesn't say anything else. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:36, 28 January 2008 (CST)
:See also [[Viper Mark II]] and [[Viper Mark VII]] for pictures of both Viper models. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:40, 28 January 2008 (CST)
so if i get it right from the images, the red lined Viper (Mark II) is the one that is piloted by Kara and the unpainted one is a Viper Mark VII piloted by Apollo. I thought he was piloting a Mark II but you're right that must be one from Pegasus.[[User:Bbm4n|Bbm4n]] 12:25, 28 January 2008 (CST)
::Not necessarily from ''Pegasus''; ''Galactica'' did retain a few Mark VIIs after the Cylon attack, although they had to be downgraded to avoid the [[CNP]] backdoor. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:50, 28 January 2008 (CST)

==License Plate on Kara's Hummvee==
Looking through some BSG-pages I recognised that seemingly noone has an explanation. Maybe it's a symbol for Kara's suppressed femininity: The Code on the Car "FB 42 E3" read as a HTML hexadecimal representation of color can be interpreted as "frakking PINK". --[[User:Anakin|Anakin]] 00:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
: Interesting. Does anyone know of a site that can interpret HTML hex code so this can be independently confirmed? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
::Just frakking google it! :) http://www.kenjikojima.com/java/RGBHexConverter2.html -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
:: Consequently, I found [http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?showtopic=46 this]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
==Starbuck-A==
Just want to throw this out for discussion. Should the current Starbuck be treated like a separate entity now (maybe not a separate article, but like different version of a Cylon model)? -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think we should wait until after Daybreak clears things up. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 06:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Thrace is a part of Greece ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Thrace Someone could. include it as a potential reference. --[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 23:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes a Great Notion

2009-03-08T06:49:45Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Questions */ partial revert: the test results in Islanded in a Stream of Stars don't prove it's the original Kara

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| extra='''Season 4.5 Premiere'''
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== Overview ==
:''[[Kara Thrace]] learns that the dire predictions of the Cylon [[Hybrid]] might be correct, and a devastating discovery plunges the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] into chaos and despair.''

== Summary ==

===Act 1===
* The episode skips a teaser, beginning with the "Twelve Cylons" opener and the cast credits appearing as scenes of the devastated [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] appear.
* The leaders and central staff of both [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]] and the rebel [[Basestar (RDM)|baseship]] wander about aimlessly on the surface of a planet whose surface has been utterly destroyed in a nuclear conflagration for some time. [[Saul Tigh]] stands on a desolate beach, staring out at the ruins of buildings, their mangled shortened skeletons jutting up from the lands ahead in jagged spires. [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Samuel Anders]] stand about the ruins in confusion, as does [[Anastasia Dualla]], who stoops at the water's edge to mournfully examine it.
* [[Lee Adama]] grimaces as he looks about the dead landscape as [[Laura Roslin]] picks up a short rounded prickly plant, the only visible life found on the world.
* [[Helo]] reports to Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]]: Other scouts report in from around the planet. The destruction is the same all over. No signs of human life and no responses to any hails. [[D'anna Biers]] confirms her rebel [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] scouts have had the same findings.
* The Final Four Cylons - including [[Tory Foster]] who had defected to the rebel Cylon baseship - accompany the senior Colonial scouting team. None of the three Final Four soldiers wears rank insignia on his fatigue collars, although Anders does so on his flight suit under his field jacket; conversely, the human soldiers and [[Sharon Agathon]] wear rank on their fatigue collars in this episode.
* [[Kara Thrace]] stands on the surface holding her Viper's Colonial emergency locator beacon, with a [[Leoben]], trying to home in on the signal only it can read, the signal that lead them to this world. The signal of the transmitting beacon is fading from a low battery. Leoben believes it must have been transmitting for a long time.
* Baltar has a team confirming that the radiation from the holocaust has embedded itself in the plant life and water chain. Helo gives a more detailed version of Baltar's findings: the planet was nuked over 2,000 years prior. Adama directs that all be instructed not to ingest the water and plants. Caprica-Six remains on the surface until early in Act 2, and digs in the dirt.
* Roslin quips, "It's perfect. We traded one nuked civilization for another." Adama orders his [[Raptor]] to leave.
* Dualla is near a breakdown as their Raptor returns to ''[[Galactica]]''.
* The [[hangar deck]] is filled with people, anxious for any news on the new world. But Roslin, typically someone who can manage to say anything in the darkest times, can only mutter to Adama, "Get me out of here." Lee Adama tries to placate the crowd's confusion and questions, shouting that the news will be revealed in due time.

===Act 2===

* Kara Thrace and Leoben continue to narrow in on the Colonial signal when she finds the beacon: a standard issue ''Colonial'' device used for all aircraft, part of their [[Avionics|inertial navigation system]].
* Leoben finds some wreckage and reads off the number on its charred skin: "757-NC." Kara immediately becomes agitated. "The number on my [[Viper Mark II|ship]] is [[Viper 8757|8757-NC]]," she says--referring to the Viper that she flew back to the Fleet after she was [[Maelstrom|apparently killed]].
* On ''Galactica'', the Agathon family plays together happily as Dualla comes over to babysit little [[Hera Agathon]]. While Dualla says to the Agathons that she "looks forward" to spending time with the child, she later tells young Agathon as her parents leave, " You have no idea what's happened, do you? Today's just another day."
* On the planet, amidst some seemingly human skeletons dug up, [[Caprica-Six]] and others find something very unexpected: the remains of a head of what is obviously a type of Cylon Centurion, similar to the old [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|original model]] from the [[First Cylon War]], but clearly not the same.
* Aboard ''Galactica'' in Baltar's lab, Caprica-Six confirms that other Centurion helmets were found with about 250 skeletons from four sites around the planet as well. A [[Number Eight]] confirms that, while the Centurion design is similar, they have never seen this design before.
* Roslin notes that, apparently, the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] created their own Cylons (paralleling what occurred in the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]]). Lee Adama completes her sentence: Like on the Colonies, these Cylons also rebelled against their masters.
*Baltar notes that they dug deeper to test the skeletons themselves. The astonishing fact, confirmed by his Caprica-Six, is that the every one of the skeletons themselves are also [[Humanoid Cylons|humanoid Cylons]]. ''The Thirteenth Tribe were Cylons''.
* After the meeting, Lee Adama asks Roslin what she will say to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum]]. But a visibly disheartened Roslin has nothing to say at all. Admiral Adama tells his son to "carry the ball" for Roslin.
*As the admiral and Roslin leave, Tigh asks to speak to his friend, but the scene is unclear if Adama stops to listen.
*Back on the planet, [[Galen Tyrol]] is attracted to a fragment of wall. As he gets closer, he hears echoes of ghosts saying things like "Fresh fruit, get your fresh fruit!" He sees a human silhouette on the wall, looking as if it were painted there. Surrounding the silhouette is weathered writing, barely readable. Tyrol touches the silhouette--and is thrown into a vision of the world as it once was, and Tyrol as he once was, wearing glasses and a sportcoat as he passes through a bustling marketplace of open carts of fruit and flowers and other goods. He stops to buy an avacado himself then continues walking. A massively bright flash of light appears as Tyrol shields his eyes--
* Tyrol stumbles back, falling to the ground.
* Elsewhere, Kara Thrace questions that, if her Viper is scattered about this planet, then who flew it here, and how did she herself get back to ''Galactica''. Leoben cautions her, telling her, "[[#Noteworthy_Dialogue|You might not like what you find.]]" Thrace is perturbed by his words as Leoben has been, typically, very optimistic in his words to her in the past. She questions if the news would be more disturbing to her, or to Leoben himself.
* In the [[ready room]], Lee Adama stands in thought as Dualla appears, asking him why he hasn't boarded a readied Raptor for his Quorum briefing on ''[[Colonial One]]''. Adama laments the many pilots that had once sat here, many of them lost forever over a dead dream. He doesn't want their sacrifice to be meaningless.
* Dualla tells him that his expression reminds her of what he looked like when his father said that he would [[Exodus, Part I|execute the New Caprica rescue with ''Galactica'' alone.]] When he wonders what to say to the Quorum, Dualla tells him to tell the truth. "If anyone can give them a reason to go on, it's you. Apollo." As he leaves, hesitant, he asks her to meet him for a drink later. She accepts.

* Kara Thrace finds a large piece of wreckage, overturned. She and Leoben turn it over. It's a Viper cockpit, the burnt remains of its pilot still helmeted, still inside. Cautiously, she lifts the head to find it had blonde hair...''her'' hair. Thrace retches.
* As tears well up, she reaches inside the [[flight suit]] of the body to pull out the [[dog tags]]. In clear letters, the tags read "K. THRACE." A ring, her wedding band, is also attached to the chain. Leoben steps back in fear as Thrace asks for an explanation. "I--I don't have one," he says. She recalls what the [[Hybrid]] said, that she would be the "harbinger of death." She yells to the Leoben as he walks away, unable to answer her question, "If that's me sitting there, then what am I?!"

===Act 3===
* [[Samuel Anders]] finds the remains of a stringed instrument, probably a guitar. He holds the neck piece, placing his fingers on it as if to play as he recalls a song: [[The Music|"So let us not talk falsely now, 'cause the hour is getting late."]]. He drops the neck and runs to find Tyrol, sitting placidly by the wall and the vision. They both share their visions, both realizing they lived there, in that area, once. Anders recalls that he played that song for a woman he loved. They are joined by [[Tory Foster]], who also recalls that he played that song for [[Final Five|all of us]].
* "That was me," Tyrol says, pointing to the flash-silhouette on the wall.
* Anders angrily questions the paradox. Why they were all still alive? How did they come to the Colonies, to believe they were human? "Two thousand years is a long time to forget!" he says.

* In Admiral Adama's quarters, Laura Roslin sits on the floor. She has set fire to one of the pages of the [[Sacred Scrolls]], specifically, the Pythian Prophecy, turning successive pages to burn each into ash, one by one.
* Adama arrives to ask Roslin to help figure out a way to shore up the Fleet's quickly sagging morale. She is passive. He tells her that she'd missed her [[doloxan]] treatment. Roslin "didn't feel like it," she says, refusing to reschedule. "You just gonna...lie down and quit?" Adama asks. She laments that he took her advice to leave their Colonial solar system, of all the men and women who had died for what appears to be a fruitless series of visions.

* In the twilight, Kara Thrace creates a funeral pyre, burning the corpse of herself found in the wreckage, sitting alone as the flames consume it.

* Lee Adama and Dualla come back from her date as he humorously (and drunkenly) recalls his report to the Quorum. "We are no longer enslaved to the ramblings of Pythia, no longer pecking at the bread crumbs of the Thirteenth Tribe...We are now free to go where we want to go, be who we want to be." Dualla smiles back warmly as they kiss. They stop kissing mutually both stopping from it getting further. Dualla bids Lee goodbye and enters her quarters. Inside, [[Felix Gaeta]] watches her as she hums. "You're glowing," he says with slight amazement. Then he makes a comment on how Earth is a waste of a planet. Dualla chides him for bringing up the subject. "I want to hold on to this feeling for as long as I can." She looks at a childhood picture of herself in her opened locker, taking off her pendant. "She has no idea what she has ahead of her," she says of her younger self. Gaeta leaves as Dualla stops humming briefly looking at him leave in the mirror, then resumes humming. She looks at a cameo of her parents and then calmly places her wedding ring on the locker hook.
* Without any hesitation at all, Dualla pulls out a sidearm from her locker, places it against her temple, and fires.
* [[Diana Seelix]] arrives inside first, with Gaeta not far behind. Both are aghast at the sight of Dualla's body, blood pooling around her hands. They call for medics repeatedly in fear and distress as the scene ends.

===Act 4===

* Lee Adama stands by the shrouded body of Anastasia Dualla in the ship's morgue as his father enters. "She kissed me goodnight 45 minutes ago, and there was joy in her eyes. So tell me why would she do this?" Lee asks. The admiral's stony face melts into a drunken expression. "I don't frakkin' know," he slurs out, taking out a bottle of alcohol to offer to Lee, who refuses it. Anger rising in his face, Lee leaves, passing by Gaeta outside without a word.
* Inside, Admiral Adama looks under the shroud momentarily, covers Dualla's body, as he cries, holding her head, asking to himself, "What did you do?" He kisses the body, saying, "I let you down. I let everybody down."

* Adama comes out into a corridor, demands a sidearm from one of the [[marines]] standing there. Adama storms down a corridor as other stand or sit expressionless. Two men are fist-fighting, crossing Adama's path. He ignores them as he heads to Saul Tigh's quarters.
* "Sit down, Cylon," Adama says angrily after pulling out Tigh's sidearm, arms it and drops it on a table. Adama pours both of them a drink, but Tigh slowly pushes it away.
* Tigh tries to apologize about his revelation of being a Cylon, but Adama is beyond angry. "Is that how it worked? They program you to be my friend? Emulate all the qualities I respect. Tell me jokes...and I laugh at them."
* Tigh counters that he wanted, chose to be his friend. Adama throws insult after insult about [[Ellen Tigh]], angering Tigh to pick up the sidearm to shoot his friend. "Do it! Or I'll do it myself!" Adama says, pointing his own sidearm to his temple.

===Act 5===

* Tigh's gun is pointed at Adama's forehead, but he hesitates pulling the trigger. Adama goads him, "Go on," but Tigh realizes, returning Adama's insult as he rips out the gun's magazine and safes the weapon. "I'm sorry, Bill, but this is the one time I can't help you." Adama drops his gun and reaches for a bottle, but Tigh tries to stop him.
* Adama drinks from a glass anyway as he speaks of his uncle as a kid in the summers spent there, of foxes that would attack his henhouses, of the dog hunts that chased down the foxes at night, forming into a team, forcing the fox toward the river. Half of the foxes would fight, the others would try to cross the river. But some of them would turn with the current, swimming away into the sea. "Because they wanted to drown," Tigh adds. "Maybe. Or maybe they were just... tired."

* Tigh, uncharacteristically, becomes the sober one giving the other a dressing-down, telling Adama that he can't be like the foxes lost to the sea, reminding him that he is the commander and Tigh is still the XO of the ship, that killing himself would not help himself, or the ship.

* In the presidential office aboard ''Colonial One'', Lee Adama slowly wipes away a numeral "1" from the [[Survivor count|census]] board as Kara Thrace arrives. At some point on the surface, she sustained a laceration on the front-right quadrant of her neck.<ref>According to Ronald D. Moore's commentary podcast, the dressing was blood-soaked when filmed, and was distracting when viewed - particularly given that her sustainment of the injury is not noticeable to the viewer (including himelf). Accordingly, the blood was digitally removed in post-production, leaving a pristine white dressing.</ref> Kara had officially reported that she lost the signal, but needs to confide in him about something. Before she does, Lee tells her the news about Dualla. Both can only wonder why Dee killed herself. Kara presumably decides not to tell Lee about her discovery.

* Adama passes by more passive crewman and some graffiti: "Frak Earth", sprayed on the wall as he heads to [[CIC]], where he meets up with Colonel Tigh wearing his service uniform and rank insignia for the first time since being granted amnesty by then-Acting President Lee Adama. Ordering Lt. [[Hoshi]] to Dualla's old communications station, Adama directs Gaeta to find any nearby stars compatible with habitable planets, and Hoshi to invite the rebel Cylons to their next destination. Adama addresses the Fleet, telling them that, while Earth is no longer a choice, he will find them a new home. "This is a promise I intend to keep."

* Saul Tigh, still in service uniform, organizes the evacuation of the survey crews on Earth in preparation for their search for a new home. On the beach, he greets [[D'Anna Biers]]. She doesn't want to leave, deciding to stay behind, believing that the cycle of life will keep going on as dreadfully as before. "...and it beats the hell out of being out there with [[Cavil]]. Gonna die in the cold and the dark when Cavil catches up with us." Tigh tries to give encouragement, but Biers asks if he ever wanted to just give up, reminding him of Adama's story of the penned-in foxes.

* Tigh thereupon begins to walk into the bay. Chest-deep in water, he continues down. Hearing faint screams, he reaches down and lifts a mangled post box hatch from his apartment building's lobby two millenia ago. Holding it, he has a vision of the end of his former life. He wears a civilian business suit, his face is clean shaven but bloodied, and he has both of his eyes. A voice calls out, "Saul!" from the floor in front of the post boxes. There he finds Ellen, trapped under debris he cannot move. His present-day self thrashes about in the bay while remembering his past self frantically pulling the lighter debris from around Ellen. As more bombs detonate, Ellen delivers a prophecy: "Saul, it's okay. Everything's in place. We'll be reborn... again. Together."

* The vision fades as Tigh realizes the truth. "Ellen... Ellen! You're the [[Final Five|fifth!]]"

== Notes ==

* [[Katee Sackhoff]] noted that this episode could have served as the series finale had the [[WGA strike]] gone longer.<ref name="roadrunner">{{cite_web|url=http://roadrunnerdm.livejournal.com/84288.html|title=Roadrunner - Newsdump from Burbank convention|date=19 November 2007|accessdate=20 November 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=}}</ref> However, the strike ended with sufficient time for production to resume; the previous episode was aired as the mid-season finale, with this episode airing in the first quarter of 2009.
* The scenes were among the last shot and were shot during the crew's shut down party due to the [[WGA strike|2008 Writers Strike]], so Sackhoff was unable to attend.<ref name="roadrunner"/>
*The title of the episode comes from the novel ''[[w:Sometimes a Great Notion (novel)|Sometimes a Great Notion]]'' by [[w:Ken Kesey|Ken Kesey]], which itself quotes the blues song "[[w:Goodnight, Irene|Goodnight, Irene]]". In the song, the singer contemplates suicide: "Sometimes I get a great notion / to jump in the river and drown."<ref name="chicagotribune">{{cite web|url=http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/final-fifth-cylon-ellen-tigh-battlestar-galactica-dualla-dee-.html|title=Chicago Tribune: 'Battlestar Galactica's' Ron Moore addresses the shocking developments of 'Sometimes a Great Notion'|date=17 January 2009|accessdate=19 January 2009|last=Ryan|first=Maureen|format=|language}}</ref>
*The last Cylon is finally revealed in a vision Colonel Tigh has of the past: it is his dead wife, Ellen Tigh.
*While "[[The Face of the Enemy]]" webisodes were released before "Sometimes a Great Notion", they actually take place several days after it.
*According to Moore in his podcast, his wife Terry believed that Dualla was the Fifth Cylon right up until she shot herself. She had long ago stopped reading show scripts before hand.
*The alarms sounding after the nuclear attack during Tigh's flashback are identical to the two-tone, randomly-overlapping red alert klaxon heard on battlestars in the original series.

== Analysis ==
*The Cylons and Colonials each have testing methods which can distinguish between human and Cylon remains.
*The Thirteenth Tribe Cylons were apparently all unique models and included children, based on the jacks found by Dualla, which fittingly resemble baseships.
*Saul Tigh also had the first name "Saul" in his past life.
*Unlike the humanoid Cylons on occupied Caprica, those of Earth apparently could not survive the effects of radioactive fallout.
*The destroyed city serving as the "home base" for the Colonials and Cylons remains unnamed, however when Col. Tigh wades into the water, what appears to be the pedistal of the State of Liberty atop the former Fort Wood can be seen in the distance to the right of Tigh's back. This lends further credence to the speculation originating with "[[Revelations]]" that they are in the vicinity of New York City, and adds to the two episodes' homage and references to ''The Planet of the Apes'' which ends with Col. Taylor's discovery of the statue's damaged upper portion. Coincidentally, Fort Wood's shape is known as a "star fort".
*Dee's decision to spend her final hours with Lee is in keeping with her deleted engagement scene in "[[Unfinished Business]]". In accepting Lee's marriage proposal, Dee acknowledged that the marriage would not survive Lee's continued feelings toward Kara Thrace, and that the Cylons would likely find and kill them all anyway; nevertheless, she wanted to spend what little time she could with him and happy.

== Questions ==
*What was the source of the nuclear attacks on Earth? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*Was Ellen Tigh able to resurrect after her death in "[[Exodus, Part II]]"? If so, is she with the Cavil faction? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*Did Ellen Tigh resurrect between the events of the [[Miniseries]] and [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]? If so, how did she get aboard ''[[Rising Star]]''? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*Was Ellen Tigh aware of her Cylon identity? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*Was Ellen Tigh the one who [[D'Anna Biers]] apologized to in [[Rapture|her vision?]] ([[Sometimes a Great Notion#Official Statements|Answer]])
*What is Kara Thrace?
*Was the corpse found in the field that of the "real" Kara Thrace? If so, how and when did her Viper crash on Earth? And how did so much of her Viper and body remain relatively intact after seemingly being completely disintegrated in the gas giant?
*Why does Thrace keep the dog tags and wedding ring found on the body? ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars|[Possible answer]])
*Will Thrace or Conoy tell anyone about their discovery? How will others respond to this information? ([[Someone to Watch Over Me|Answer #1]] [[Islanded in a Stream of Stars|Answer #2]])
*How will the Cylons in Cavil's faction respond to the discovery of the identities of the Final Five? ([[No Exit|Partial answer]])
*How did the Final Five come to be living in the Twelve Colonies 2000 years after their deaths on Earth, without their memories and unaware of being Cylons? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*What similarities and differences exist between the method by which the Final Five were reborn and the Significant Seven's process of [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]]? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*Did the Thirteenth Tribe Cylons have any influence on the development of the Significant Seven 2000 years later, or was it mere parallel evolution? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*How did the Significant Seven come to be aware of the existence, though not the identities, of the Final Five? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*Are there other survivors of the Thirteenth Tribe besides the Final Five?
*Does the presence of children among the Thirteenth Tribe indicate that they reproduced among themselves? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*If the Thirteenth Tribe reproduced biologically, did the Final Five have Cylon parents, grandparents or other ancestors on Earth? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*Did Baltar's Cylon detector successfully identify Ellen Tigh in "[[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]"? If so, did Baltar withhold that information from D'Anna Biers during their search for the Final Five? If he did tell her could this have been what she meant when she told him "you were right" in [[Rapture]]? If he didn't, what were his reasons?
*With D'Anna Biers remaining behind on Earth, who will take over as the leader of the rebel Cylon faction? ([[Someone to Watch Over Me|Answer]])
*Given the speculation following [[Revelations]] that the survey site at the end of that episode and the start of this, was in Brooklyn, with the remains of the Brooklyn Bridge in the background; and given that the writers paid an homage to ''Planet of the Apes'' with Leoben's Dr. Zaius quote; is the thick, stubby structure in the background toward which Colonel Tigh wades at the episode's end, the pedestal on Liberty Island?
*Will [[D'Anna Biers]] stay on Earth? ([[Sometimes a Great Notion#Official Statements|Answer]])
*Does Tigh retain the mailbox hatch from his apartment building, and does Anders retain the guitar neck which he had dropped?
*Were the Thirteenth Tribe Cylons generally aware of Cylon resurrection/reincarnation, and the cyclical nature of Cylon life, or was Ellen Tigh unusually prophetic? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
*How was dead Kara's hair left unburned while her facial flesh was charred beyond recognition?
*Are the visions/memories experienced by the Final Five on Earth perfectly accurate?
*Will Tigh reveal Ellen's status as the final Cylon? How will others react? ([[A Disquiet Follows My Soul|Answer]])
*Three refers to "the bones of [her] ancestors", yet no Significant Seven models are depicted in either flashback scene, and early Colonial Cylons (Graystone' creations and [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurion Model 0005]]s) were created two millenia after Earth's destruction. What is the lineage of the Significant Seven? ([[No Exit|Partial answer]])
*Did human/Cylon hybrids ever occur when the two races cohabited Kobol, or is Hera the first of her kind in all of history?
*Did Anders originally write "[[The Music|All Along the Watchtower]]", or did he merely cover it?

== Official Statements ==
*[http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/final-fifth-cylon-ellen-tigh-battlestar-galactica-dualla-dee-.html#more Chicago Tribune interview with Ronald D. Moore:]
*Ronald D. Moore has confirmed that Dualla is dead and that Ellen Tigh is in fact the Final Cylon.
*Moore indicates that Ellen Tigh was the Cylon whom D'Anna apologized to in "[[Rapture]]".
*In his podcast commentary to "Sometimes a Great Notion", Ronald D. Moore confirmed that [[D'Anna Biers]] stays on Earth and that her story has ended.
**Also in his podcast Moore says that Kara Thrace did actually die when her Viper was destroyed, not some trick.
** Moore states that there was an intention in the Director's Cut (but dropped) to subtly imply that Anders wrote "All Along The Watch Tower" himself, and not as in reality, Bob Dylan.
**Moore admits that it the scene just before Dualla's suicide was intended as an emotional "sucker punch" to imply that Lee and Dualla were perhaps going to get back together.
**Moore said Admiral Adama used the actual real life [[Wikipedia:Star#Classification|star system classifications of F, G, and K]] when he orders Gaeta to search for appropriate star systems that could support human life.

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*'''''Leoben Conoy''' echos to Dr. Zaius' final caution to Col. Taylor at the end of ''The Planet of the Apes'':'' "You might not like what you find." Like Taylor, Starbuck is a time-traveling<ref>To her, her disappearance and reappearance were brief; to everyone else's perspective, she was gone weeks.</ref> military astronaut surveying post-apocolyptic Earth (possibly also in the outskirts of New York City), and the "harbinger of death."

*'''''Saul Tigh''' upon seeing Ellen Tigh in a flashback on Earth:''
: "Ellen - You're the Fifth!"

*''After finding her body, '''Kara Thrace''' shouts to Leoben:''
: "What am I?!"

*'''''Laura Roslin's''' assessment of Earth:''
: "It's perfect. We traded one nuked civilization for another."

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Lucy Lawless]] as [[Number Three (Downloaded copy)|D'Anna Biers]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]] / [[Leoben Conoy]]
* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]
* [[Brad Dryborough]] as Lieutenant [[Louis Hoshi]]
* [[Alexandra Thomas]] as [[Hera Agathon|Hera]]
* [[Don Thompson]] as Specialist [[Anthony Figurski]]
* [[Sonja Bennett]] as Specialist [[Marcie Brasko]]
* [[Jennifer Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix]]

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The Colony

2009-03-07T06:48:54Z

Gordon Ecker:

'''The Colony'''<ref>Jane Espenson referred to this place as "The Colony" in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, and hinted that it is not necessarily a literal colony.</ref> is a large biomechanical structure similar in composition to the [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]] where the Cylons went after the armistice. ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]])

It is also the place where [[Ellen Tigh]] supposedly stored her [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] research equipment ([[No Exit]]).

Prior to the Cylon civil war, Cavil kept the colony secret ([[No Exit]]). Cavil moved the colony shortly before the start of the Cylon civil war, indicating that the structure is FTL-capable ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

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The Colony

2009-03-07T05:57:11Z

Gordon Ecker: details from Islanded in a Stream of Stars

'''The Colony'''<ref>Jane Espenson referred to this place as "The Colony" in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, and hinted that it is not necessarily a literal colony.</ref> is a large biomechanical structure similar in composition to the [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]] where the Cylons went after the armistice. ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]])

It is also the place where [[Ellen Tigh]] supposedly stored her [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] research equipment ([[No Exit]]).

Prior to the Cylon civil war, Cavil kept the colony secret ([[No Exit]]). Cavil moved the colony shortly before the start of the Cylon civil war ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

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Cylon homeworld

2009-03-07T05:49:25Z

Gordon Ecker: +merge tag

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The '''Cylon homeworld''' is the planet which the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] established as their main base after rebelling against the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]]. The Cylons presumably leave for this world after the armistice that ended the [[Cylon War]] ([[Miniseries]]).

The Colonials estimate the general location of the Cylon homeworld, by using the [[Armistice Station]] as a reference. The station was apparently built at the [[Armistice Line]] which the Colonials agreed to never cross, and behind which the Cylons would settle ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]).

The escaping [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] and the Twelve Colonies are too far away from the Cylon homeworld for [[humanoid Cylon]]s or Raiders to resurrect. As a result, the Cylons built several [[Resurrection Ship]]s, which would serve as safety nets for Cylons located outside of downloading range during and after the attack.

== Notes ==
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*When Ron D. Moore was questioned why the "Cylon POV episode", "[[Downloaded]]", took place on Cylon-occupied Caprica instead of the Cylon homeworld in an interview with [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3206/2/ Now Playing Magazine] on February 23, 2006, he stated that the series will probably not show that planet any time in the forseeable future, explaining that:

::"That episode ("Downloaded") will not have that, and we still don’t have any plans to do that...My instinct is kind of not to go there. I feel like I don’t have a great clear vision of it; at this point if we tried to do something there it would look very familiar and not as interesting as it is in your imagination."

:Moore goes on to say that he felt it was more exciting when left to the imagination, because "It still has to be a place where bipedal creatures can walk around and do things": Presumably, it has to be able to support the humanoid Cylons, who are near-human enough that their home environment would be fairly similar to a human one, and not drastically exotic.

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Six of One

2009-03-05T05:22:02Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Questions */ adding questions answered in No Exit

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== Overview ==
:''The [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] are bitterly divided over how to deal with the Cylon [[Raider (RDM)|Raider]]s, who refuse to attack the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] because of the [[Battle of the Ionian Nebula|recent detection]] of the [[Final Five]] within the Fleet. Meanwhile, Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] and crew send [[Lee Adama]] off into his new life as a member of the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]], and Adama has to deal with the possibility that [[Kara Thrace]] may very well be right about her knowing how to get to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]].''

== Summary ==

=== On ''Galactica'' ===

* Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]], Captain [[Karl Agathon|Agathon]] and a squad of Marines under Sergeant [[Erin Mathias|Mathias]] respond to Thrace's assault on the guards and her intrusion into Adama's quarters.
* Inside the quarters [[Kara Thrace]] recalls how she blindly trusted [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] to retrieve the [[Arrow of Apollo]] from Caprica and find the [[Tomb of Athena]] on Kobol. Now she can't understand why Roslin doesn't place the same trust in her, although she is determined to lead humanity to Earth. She gives her handgun to Roslin, telling her to shoot her if she believes that Thrace is a Cylon. Roslin takes the gun and pulls the trigger, but only hits a photograph of her and Adama.
* The shot prompts the Marines to enter and subdue her. Thrace repeats her conviction that she needs to find Earth, but is quickly losing her sense of direction, but Adama orders her to be confined in the [[brig]].
*The "final four" have another clandestine meeting in a storage room. Tigh tells them how Roslin almost shot Thrace for possibly being a Cylon, and urges the others not to draw attention to themselves. Foster is aware that there is still one Cylon missing and when Tyrol brings up Baltar's actions in the [[Temple of Five]], Tigh suggests that he might know something about the final Cylon or them. Noting that Baltar has had sex with a Cylon, he suggests Foster flirts with him. Foster is repulsed.
*Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] visits Thrace in the brig, being enraged at what she just did, and tells her that she was stupid enough to alienate the one person who may have believed her. Thrace repeats that she has a physical need to return to Earth. When she teases Adama about being Roslin's nurse and not having the guts to hold on, he grabs her and throws her on the floor, then leaves.
* The pilots have a party in the [[rec room]]. [[Margaret Edmondson|Racetrack]], [[Brendan Constanza|Hot Dog]] and the [[tattooed pilot]] are playing a game of strip [[Triad (RDM)|Triad]], while Helo fills shot glasses with [[ambrosia]]. [[Narcho]] urges Lee Adama to hold a speech on account of his retirement. He makes several toasts, each time knocking down one of the shots. When he toasts "absent friends", his father's eyes are drawn to a picture of Thrace.
* In his quarters, William Adama is working on the model ship he wrecked after Thrace's death. He removes the [[Aurora, Goddess of the Dawn|Aurora]] figurine she gave him, apparently thinking more about her.
* In a civilian mess hall, [[Gaius Baltar]] joins Tory Foster on her table. Suddenly [[Virtual Baltar]] appears to Baltar himself, who can't believe what is happening. He urges Baltar to feel out Foster, who pretends to be interested in Baltar due to his reversal of fortune and the "miracles" that happen around him. Baltar thinks that God has chosen him to "sing his song", using metaphors that make Foster think of her activation as a Cylon and the [[The Music|music]] she heard. She leaves slight disturbed, and Baltar wonders if his Virtual Baltar is Six in disguise.
* Roslin and Adama are talking in his quarters. Both are unsure what to make of Thrace or what do with her. Adama wonders if maybe Thrace is telling the truth, which Roslin can't believe hearing from him, after he always derided beliefs in supernatural events. When Adama mentions her shooting at Thrace, she claims that the [[Doloxan]] messed with her aim, but Adama believes that it was doubt. Roslin keeps insisting that Thrace can't be trusted, and thinks that Adama is ready to believe Thrace because he can't take any more loss around him and that he is afraid to live alone. Adama retorts that Roslin may be afraid to die alone and meaningless, and leaves angrily. Roslin notices that her hair is beginning to fall out and breaks down crying.
* Lee Adama visits Thrace, telling her that [[Tom Zarek]] nominated him for a vacant seat on the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] and why he wants to take it. They wish each other luck on their future journeys. Adama leaves, but then turns around and they kiss passionately. Later, Adama takes one last look around the [[Pilot Ready Rooms|pilots' ready room]] and reflects on his former life.
* Accompanied by [[Sharon Agathon]], Adama enters the [[hangar deck]] to leave the ship. To his astonishment, a large part of the crew has assembled to see him off, most in full dress uniform. They salute, then break into applause, and Adama proceeds to embrace his former colleagues. When he gets to his [[Anastasia Dualla|wife]], she wishes him goodbye and he tells her that she "got the house." After embracing his father, Adama leaves with Roslin and Foster.
* In the rooms used by Baltar's cult, he and Foster are sleeping together, but Foster's eyes are full of tears. She wonders if maybe she is a Cylon, but Baltar tells her that humans aren't the only ones suffering and that Cylons have feelings too. Contrary to her initial revulsion at the idea of sleeping with him, she kisses Baltar and they continue having sex.
* Karl Agathon and Sergeant Mathias escort Thrace from the brig to the hangar deck, where Admiral Adama is awaiting. Thinking that she will be [[Airlock|spaced]], she is surprised to be released. Adama gives her the ''[[Demetrius]]'' and a crew, handpicked by Agathon and Adama, to try to find Earth. Adama is still not sure if it's the right decision, but believes in Roslin and is tired of losing and turning back from things he believes in.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===
*[[Natalie]] and a [[Number Eight]] listen to the [[Hybrid]] spout cryptic phrases. Mixed in with the Hybrid's usual stream-of-consciousness are phrases such as, "Rise and measure the Temple of the Five", and "They will not harm their own". Meanwhile, a scantily-clad Eight dances in front of a [[Number One]].
*Natalie, a [[Number Two]], and one of the Eights confront One with the belief that the [[Final Five]] are in the Colonial fleet, and this is why the [[Raider (RDM)|Raider]]s broke off the attack in the [[Ionian Nebula]] ([[He That Believeth in Me]]). Number One says that the Final Five are anywhere but with the humans and admonishes the others for talking about them and wishing to contact them. He declares that the Raiders will be "reconfigured" (lobotomized) to stop this from happening again.
*The Number Ones, [[Number Four]]s, and [[Number Five]]s vote in favor of "reconfiguration", while the Number Twos, [[Number Six]]es, and Number Eights vote against it. The apparent stalemate is broken by [[Sharon Valerii]], who votes in favor of the lobotomy. [[Natalie]] accuses One of having influenced Valerii, shocked by a Cylon voting against her model, as this has never happened before.
*Fours are seen performing the lobotomy on Raiders.
*[[Natalie]] confronts One, two Fours, and two Fives at a table, asking them to change their minds. At their refusal, she calls for [[Centurion (RDM)|Centurion]]s to enter the room. The Centurions do not respond to One's command to leave. Natalie explains that her faction has removed the Centurions' [[telencephalic inhibitor]]s, giving them the gift of reason. The Centurions do not approve of lobotomizing the Raiders, and shoot the Ones, Fours, and Fives present.

== Notes ==
[[Image:Roslin and Adama Picture Shot.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The picture that Roslin "shoots"]]
* The episode title is a possible play on the common idiom "[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/six_of_one,_half_a_dozen_of_the_other Six of one, half a dozen of the other]", indicating equivalence. It is also a phrase used frequently in the TV series ''[[w:The Prisoner|The Prisoner]]'' (and [[Number Six]] has been acknowledged by Ronald Moore as having been so name in homage to the lead character of that series).
* There has been a net loss of 22 people since "[[He That Believeth In Me]]".
** Since the aftermath of [[Paulla Schaffer]]'s overzealous attack on [[Shaunt]] in "[[He That Believeth in Me]]" remains unknown ([[Charlie Connor]] is seen alive in "[[The Oath]]"), it is possible that he survived the attack and is not included in the net loss.
* This is the first appearance of [[Natalie]], a [[Number Six]] who is the leader of a faction advocating a search for the [[Final Five]]. She is not given that name in the episode, but the name was revealed several months prior by actress [[Tricia Helfer]].
* This episode reveals three Cylon model numbers: the Cavils are [[Number One]]s, the Leobens are [[Number Two]]s, and the Simons are [[Number Four]]s.
* Interestingly enough, all the numbers for the [[Significant Seven]] are consecutive, until they reach [[Number Eight]]. Thus Number Seven, and Numbers Nine through Twelve are not revealed.
* Raiders are capable of independent thought, unlike [[Centurion (RDM)|Centurion]]s, whose higher brain functions are prevented by an [[telencephalic inhibitor]]. Natalie and her supporters remove these from the Centurions after the vote turns against them.
* According to Cavil, there are millions of copies of each Cylon model.
* The anticipated deadlock in Cylon voting since the boxing of the [[Number Three|Threes]] occurs, though such a deadlock can broken by the (unprecedented) model-defying vote of a single Cylon.
* Baltar's [[Cult of Baltar|cult]] and their claims that he healed [[Derrick|a child]] are public knowledge.
* The picture Roslin shoots was taken at the ceremony to award Adama the [[Medal of Distinction]] in the episode "[[Hero]]".
* "[[He That Believeth In Me]]" and "Six of One" aired back-to-back as a two hour TV event in UK.
* Nominated for ''Outstanding Writing For A Drama Series'' in the 2008 Emmy Awards.
* When Baltar sees [[Virtual Baltar]] for the first time, he exclaims "Oh my giddy aunt!", a phase associated with ''[[w:Doctor Who|Doctor Who]]'', in particular the [[w:Second Doctor|second incarnation]] of [[W:Doctor (Doctor Who)|The Doctor]].
* A deleted scene (included on the Season 4.0 DVD set) reveals that [[Boomer]] and one of the [[Cavil]] models are in a romantic relationship, which is why she broke ranks to support him in the vote. In the broadcast episode the only indication of this is the scene in which Boomer is shown dancing or exercising naked in front of Cavil.

== Analysis ==

=== General ===
*A visual effects shot of the Fleet allows viewers a first look at large scale repair operations being carried out on a ship. The damaged ''[[Space Park]]'''s ring is surrounded by [[Raptors]] and scaffolding, with repair work clearly in progress. This demonstrates that the Fleet possesses enough equipment and spare parts to keeps the ships running despite the length of time spent on the run. It is likely similar repairs have been frequently carried out on ''Galactica'', allowing the ship to recover somewhat from its major damage in previous engagements.

=== Characters ===

* The episode features another case of Adama receiving advice from a woman close to him and later repeating it to another person. Roslin's observations about his tenuous believe in Thrace and his inability to deal with more loss around him apparently hit close to home, as he includes both of these in his explanation for letting Thrace go.
* Lee Adama's line about [[Dualla]] "getting the house" implies that their breakup, which she initiated by moving out in "[[Crossroads, Part I]]", is now final. Even if they were still married, Adama's new duties as politician would probably prevent them from spending much time together. Nonetheless, their goodbye is very amicable. While Adama tried hard to preserve their relationship during [[Taking a Break From All Your Worries|troubled stretches]], Dualla entered their marriage fully aware that it probably won't last long, but happy to be in it while it does. Her behavior during the goodbye reflects this, and Adama seems to have come to terms with it as well.

=== Cylons ===

* The Cylons set themselves up for a bitter divide such as the one seen in this episode, by boxing the [[Number Three]]s ([[Rapture]]). The vote of the Threes would have been the natural tiebreaker.
*At the same time, it becomes clear that Cylon society is built on a very tenuous foundation. There are no rules in place on how to deal with severe disagreements among the models. The system has only functioned for so long by fortunate circumstances and because it was never really tested in such a way. While the occupation of [[New Caprica]] showed the first cracks in the Cylons' unity, including another [[Caprica Six|individual]] dissenting from her model line, the seven models were still able to maintain consensus until this episode.
* Although at first Foster is repulsed at Tigh's suggestion that she flirt with Baltar, or even sleep with him, to find out what he knows about the Cylons, that soon changes to a certain extent. She is clearly captivated by Baltar talking about [[The Music|music]] and the implications his words have her being a Cylon, even though Baltar very likely doesn't mean them that way. Despite leaving slightly confused, she later sleeps with him. Her tears may in part come from her initial revulsion, but when Baltar talks about how he doesn't believe that she is a Cylon and that Cylons have feelings too, Foster kisses him and they continue to make love. While it is unlikely that she will become one of Baltar's religious [[Cult of Baltar|followers]], she is still charmed by him.
* It is explicitly stated for the first time that the humanoid Cylon models are not aware of their precise origins and the circumstances surrounding their creation, as had previously been implied by [[Number Three]] in "[[Rapture]]". During the first discussion about lobotomizing the Raiders, Natalie says that finding the Final Five will help them to discover their "origins and place in the universe". Cavil points out that the "original programmers" clearly thought it best for the Significant Seven to be kept separate from and ignorant of the Five, but it is not explained who these original programmers were, nor ''why'' the other humanoid Cylons were programmed not to think about the Final Five. The Cavil model claims that violating this programming could potentially have disastrous consequences. Cavil's true reasons for not wanting the other Cylons to learn of the Final Five's identities are later revealed in the episode "[[No Exit]]".
* Cavil's callous assertion that the Raiders are "tools not pets" is the exact opposite of what Boomer cryptically told Tyrol in the episode "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]". Ironically, it is Boomer who votes in favor of having the Raiders lobotomized in this episode.

== Questions ==

* Is the [[Virtual Baltar]] that [[Gaius Baltar]] sees the same as [[Caprica-Six]]'s Virtual Baltar?
* Now that the [[telencephalic inhibitor]]s have been removed from the [[Centurion (RDM)|Centurion]]s, and they've attacked three of the [[Significant Seven]], will they turn on the rest of their Cylon masters? ([[The Ties That Bind|Possible answer]])
* Will [[Kara Thrace]] truly lead the ''[[Demetrius]]'' to [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]? ([[Revelations|Answer]])
* Other than [[Karl Agathon]], who else will be accompanying Thrace on ''Demetrius''? ([[The Ties That Bind|Answer]])
* What will occur when [[Number One]], as well as the two [[Number Four|Four]]s and [[Number Five|Five]]s, [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrect]]? ([[The Ties That Bind|Answer]])
* Do the Ones truly believe that the Final Five are not with the human fleet, as Cavil claims? ([[No Exit|Answer]]) Is this what the Fours and Fives believe?
* Which of the remaining Cylon model numbers belong to which members of the [[Final Five]]? ([[Final Five#Notes|Answer]])
* Why does the Cylon fleet have Ones, Twos, Threes, Fours, Fives, Sixes and Eights, but no Sevens? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
* Did the awakened four gain any new knowledge?
* Why were the Centurions designed to have higher brain functions, only to be suppressed with telencephalic inhibitors? Why weren't these models designed without higher brain functions from the start?
* How many Centurions had their telencephalic inhibitors removed? Was it done only to the Centurions on this particular basestar? Or did it happen on a wider scale?
* Why does the generally skeptical Cavil advocate blind obedience to the intentions of the mysterious "original programmers" and passonately oppose the search for the Final Five? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
* Did Boomer only side with the Ones, Fours and Fives due to her relationship with Cavil, or was there some other motivation. ([[No Exit|Answer]])

== Official Statements ==

* ''From the New York Comic Con panel in 2008 hosted by Marc Bernardin:''
: '''Marc Bernardin:''' Did the writers create an elaborate backstory for [[Tory Foster|Tory [Foster]]], or did you get to fill in the blanks? Like, does she always cry during sex, or only with [[Gaius Baltar]]?
: '''[[Rekha Sharma]]:''' They did not create a backstory for Tory besides her job. I spoke to [[Ron Moore]] at a party. He said he would love to know what my thoughts were. I got to be part of a collaborative experience of creating my character's backstory so that's really fun and really exciting.
: '''[[Michael Trucco]]:''' Who did the crying during sex part?
: '''Sharma:''' [Writer] [[Michael Angeli]] is responsible for that. Apparently there is some person he knew through someone... this is a true story apparently. So he wanted me to carry that torch.
: '''Trucco:''' You didn't cry when you were with [[Samuel Anders|Anders]]?
: '''Sharma:''' Hell no...<ref name="ew">{{cite_web|url=http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/04/battlestar-gala.html|title=New York Comic Con: How I learned to stop worrying and love hosting 'Battletar Galactica' panels|date=21 April 2008|accessdate=21 April 2008|last=Bernardin|first=Michael|format=|language=}}</ref>

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

* ''[[Number One]] about the [[Hybrid]]:''
: "The Hybrid is always telling us something. They're supposed to maintain operations on each ship. Not vomit [[Hybrid utterances|metaphysics]]."

* ''[[Saul Tigh]] summarizes [[Gaius Baltar]]'s accomplishments:''
: "Well, he is accomplished at two things: lying in a cell and lying in a woman. He'd poke a skinjob. He racked up [[Caprica-Six|a Six]], that's a given."

* ''[[Lee Adama]] holding a "speech" during his retirement party while knocking down [[ambrosia]] shots with each sentence:''
: "To ''Galactica''! To the men and women of ''Galactica''! To the Admiral. Who commands the men and women of ''Galactica''! To our sweethearts, husbands and wives. (more quiet) To absent friends."

* ''Gaius Baltar to [[Tory Foster]]:''
:'''Baltar:''' It seems that God has chosen me to, uh, sing his song.
:'''Foster:''' A song?
:'''Baltar:''' Music? Did you say music?
:'''Foster:''' No.
:'''Baltar:''' Yeah, you know, it's funny. It's a lot like that. It's like the distant chaos of an orchestra tuning up, and then somebody waves a magic wand. And all of those notes start to slide into place. A grotesque, screeching cacophony becomes a single melody.

* ''[[Laura Roslin]] and [[William Adama]] talking about Kara Thrace, miracles and loss:''
:'''Roslin:''' You want to talk about miracles? On the very same day that a very pale doctor informed me that I had terminal cancer, most of humanity was annihilated and I survived, and by some mathematical absurdity I became president, and then my cancer disappeared long enough for us to find a way to Earth. You can call it whatever you want. And now, I'm dying.
:'''Adama:''' Don't talk that way.
:'''Roslin:''' Bill, you gotta face this. My life is coming to an end soon enough and I'm not going to apologize to you for not trusting [[Kara Thrace|her]]. And I'm not...I'm not gonna trust her with the fate of this fleet. You are so buckled up inside. You can't take any more loss. Your son's leaving, this, me, I know it.
:'''Adama:''' No one's going anywhere.
:'''Roslin:''' (laughs) Okay. Here's the truth. This is what's going on. You want to believe Kara. You would rather be wrong about her and face your own demise than risk losing her again.
:'''Adama:''' You can stay in the room, but...get out of my head. (stands up and pours himself another drink)
:'''Roslin:''' You're so afraid to live alone.
:'''Adama:''' And you're afraid to die that way. You're afraid you may not be the [[Sacred Scrolls|dying leader]] you thought you were. Or that your death may be as meaningless as everyone else's. (leaves)
:'''Roslin:''' (Notices that her hair begins to fall out due to the [[Doloxan]] treatments and breaks down crying)

* ''Natalie telling Cavil and the others that she had the Centurion's telencephalic inhibitors removed:''
:'''Natalie:''' The telencephalic inhibitor that restricts higher functions in the Centurions. We had them removed.
:'''Cavil:''' '''''Say what?!'''''

* ''Admiral Adama sending [[Kara Thrace]] off to find Earth:''
:'''Thrace:''' So you think I'm right?
:'''Adama:''' Maybe. Maybe not. But I know she is. The president. She's been right all along. I'm tired of losing. I'm tired of turning away from the things I want to believe in, and I believe you when you say, that you'll die before you stop trying. And I won't lose you again.

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]
* [[Jen Halley]] as Ensign [[Diana Seelix|Diana "Hardball" Seelix]]
* [[Sebastian Spence]] as Lieutenant [[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]]
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lieutenant [[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lieutenant [[Brendan Constanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza]]
* [[Dean Stockwell]] as [[Number One]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Number Two]]
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Number Four]]
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]]
* [[Eileen Pedde]] as Gunnery Sergeant [[Erin Mathias]]
* [[Colin Corrigan]] as Marine [[Allan Nowart]]
* [[Leo Li Chiang]] as [[Tattooed pilot]] (uncredited)

==External Links==
*Composer [[Bear McCreary]] discusses the episode's score: http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=242#more-242

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Torn

2009-03-05T04:40:14Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Questions */ +answers, and a possibly answered question about why they're seacrhing for Earth

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== Overview ==
:''[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] create divisions between those who suffered under the Cylon occupation of [[New Caprica]] and those who stayed with the Fleet. Meanwhile, [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] tries to prove his worth to the Cylons.''

== Summary ==

=== On ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'' ===
* ''Galactica''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s air wing runs exercises with the Viper pilots who settled on New Caprica and are thus out of shape. Starbuck deliberately breaks formation and collides with [[Noel Allison|Narcho]]'s Viper, forcing an end to the exercise and causing now-Major [[Lee Adama]] - who has resumed his post as [[CAG]] - to remove her from flight duty. Starbuck is told by Adama that if she wants to die, he would open up an airlock for her.
* In his quarters, [[Saul Tigh]] is drinking in excess. He believes he hears [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen]] say "I can't believe you did that to me". He looks out into the civilian-crowded corridor and follows a woman who he believes to be Ellen, only to grab a mid-aged woman who is talking to a young boy, presumably her son.
* Upon Thrace's return to her bunk, she is met by Kacey and her mother, whom she dismisses, telling Kacey's mother not visit her again.
* [[Karl Agathon]] congratulates and encourages Apollo for losing all the excess fat he had gained during the New Caprica era. Apollo asks Helo to ensure to remind him to never let that happen again.
* [[Gaeta|Felix Gaeta]] meets with [[Laura Roslin]] and [[William Adama]] to discuss Baltar-related matters. During the year before the Cylon Occupation of New Caprica, Baltar was obsessed with analyzing the data from Kobol to find the path to Earth. Based on passages in the [[Pythia|Scrolls of Pythia]], Baltar identified a nebula and two associated pulsars he believed to be a landmark on the road to Earth.
* In the pilots' rec room, [[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]] christens Lieutenant [[Sharon Agathon]] with the callsign "[[Athena]]" after she points out that, despite appearances, she is not "[[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]".
* Thrace and Tigh begin to sow dissent between the survivors of New Caprica and the crew that stayed behind on ''Galactica''.
* Adama confronts Thrace and Tigh on their behavior. He challenges them to shoot him, as their constant complaining is tantamount to pulling the trigger. When neither do, Adama demands they shape up and move on with their lives.
* Spurred by Adama's words, Thrace cuts her hair and appears to return to duty. Later, in uniform, she visits [[Kacey Brynn]] and her mother.
* Meanwhile, Tigh returns to his room and begins drinking to excess, finishing off one bottle and starting another.
* In a Raptor, Athena and [[Racetrack]] jump into range of the [[Lion's Head Nebula]], and are excited to find what the Scrolls described (an eye that blinks red and blue). They quickly realize, however, that they have jumped right next to the dying basestar.

=== On a [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] ===
*[[Gaius Baltar]], aboard the Cylon basestar, is having another hallucination. On a sunny beach, Gaius praises Six for returning to him in his time of need, and states that he enjoys having conversations with her. Six implores him to learn anything and everything about the Cylons, as he will need the information in the days ahead. Baltar presses six again to tell him what she is, either a hallucination or the result of some sort of implant - Six tells Baltar, again, that she is an angel of God.
*Having been allowed to stay on the [[basestar]], [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Three]] talk with Baltar later on, inquiring about the location of [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]]. Baltar initially denies having any knowledge of where Earth is, but then reveals that he does have clues as to where its probable location is. He then finds out that the [[Cylons]] intend to find Earth so they can use it as their new home.
*Baltar is apprehensive about helping the Cylons, and Caprica-Six tells him that the Cylons are also leery as to whether his intentions are true or not. Caprica-Six leads Baltar through the ship, telling him that she uses a projection of a forest to navigate the ship. In his mind, Baltar realizes that his form of projection is similar to what the Cylons are using, causing him to question whether he is human or a Cylon.
*Caprica-Six informs Baltar that his rescue of [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] and his assistance in finding Earth has made him a valuable asset, and has gone a long way in impressing the Cylons. Baltar asks why there are only seven models on the ship, and inquires about the remaining five models. Caprica-Six tells him that they don't talk about it. He asks whether they would recognize one of the others, but their conversation is interrupted by Three before she can answer.
* Three informs Caprica-Six that there is a situation, and a [[Number Five|Five]] states that the basestar that went to check the pulsar has not reported back. The group head to a control center, where Baltar finds out that the missing basestar has been infected by [[Lymphocytic encephalitis|a disease]]. The Cylons speculate and that any Cylon that dies and uploads to a [[Resurrection Ship]] might spread the virus even further. As a precautionary measure the Resurrection Ship is kept out of range. On the urge of his internal Six, Baltar offers to board the infected basestar and collect scientific information.
* Before he leaves on his mission, Baltar encounters the [[Hybrid|Cylon Hybrid]] that controls the functions of the basestar. The hybrid is hooked into the ship's systems and continually vocalizes her seemingly non-sensical thoughts. Caprica-Six tells Baltar that it is thought by most of the Cylon models that the Hybrid has gone insane from being connected to the [[basestar]] and that her words hold no meaning, however the [[Leoben]] model considers the hybrid's words as coming from God.
* The Cylons provide Baltar with a Raptor to board the baseship, and when he arrives, he finds numerous Cylons, either dead or dying. He collects blood samples and takes pictures of the area to bring back for analysis, and also finds a large man-made object in the hold of the ship. He then finds a dying [[Number Six|Six]] model (curiously with black hair), who informs him that the device the Cylons captured, a probe left by the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]]. Even though Baltar offers to bring her help, she tries to attack him, and he strangles her to death.
* Upon his return to the basestar, he denies finding anything that could have caused the outbreak of the virus, and although Caprica-Six notices the probe object in Baltar's picture, she doesn't let on to anyone else what she has discovered.

==Notes==

=== Characters ===

*[[Lee Adama]] has been demoted back to major, and has resumed his old position as [[CAG]], with [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]] and [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Costanza]] as senior pilots under him. [[Kara Thrace]] is back in duty as well, until Lee Adama revokes her flight status for reckless behavior.
*[[Cally Tyrol]] is shown working the flight deck alongside [[Galen Tyrol|her husband]], showing that she is once again active in the Fleet.
*[[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]] is now a pilot on ''Galactica''.
*The Vipers use targeting lasers in place of their gun mounts during the combat exercise (previously not seen during a similar exercise in "[[Act of Contrition]]"). This is a somewhat humorous use of energy "weapons" in a series that deliberately uses projectile weapons instead.
* The [[Podcast:Torn|podcast]] notes that [[Katee Sackhoff]] really cut her own hair at the end of the episode.

=== Cylons ===

*The phrase "end of line," uttered by the [[Hybrid|Cylon hybrid]] in this episode, is an homage to the film ''[[w:Tron (film)|Tron]]'', in which the [[w:Master Control Program (Tron)|Master Control Program]] finishes its sentences with "end of line."
**This may also be a play on the episode title. ''Torn'' is an anagram of ''Tron''.
**[[w:End_of_Line|End of line]] is also a computing term, referring to the character used to signal a new line in text-based protocols.
* The idea of using living creatures as central processing units of large ships has been visited before in both literary and filmed science fiction. For example the pilots in ''[[w:Dune|Dune]]'' serve a similar function while under the influence of the Spice. In Norman Spinrad's novel "The Void Captain's Tale", some women become pilots because they believe to achieve a better insight into god's creation, thus having a spiritual experience. This is similar to Leoben's beliefs about the Hybrids. Recent television series with living CPUs include ''[[w:Babylon 5|Babylon 5]]'', with human telepaths in the [[w:Shadow (Babylon 5)|Shadow]] vessels, and ''[[w:Farscape|Farscape's]]'' [[w:Pilot (Farscape)|Pilot]], though in the latter case, Pilot is more like a conduit between the crew and [[w:Moya|a sentient ship]] in its own right.
** The idea of a living being serving as CPU for a space vessel is explored, in detail and from the ship's perspective, in Anne McCaffrey's ''[[w:The Ship Who Sang|Ship Who...]]'' series of novels and short stories. The first of these was published in 1961 and may well be the inspiration for the other examples cited above.
** The anime series ''[[w:Outlaw Star|Outlaw Star]]'' also had a character called Melfina, bio-android, who acts as a navigation CPU for the ship.
** In the PC game ''[[w:Homeworld|Homeworld]]'', [[w:Karan S'jet|Karan S'jet]] integrates her physical body into the mothership to serve as its living CPU (Although S'jet chose to do so voluntarily, and it is unlikely, from comments by [[Three]], that the Hybrids were given a choice). The backstory to the game's sequel ''[[w:Homeworld 2|Homeworld 2]]'' describes S'jet as undergoing a similar metaphysical experience while integrated with the mothership as Caprica-Six describes of the Hybrid.
*According to the podcast for the episode, the Hybrid's visual look was inspired by the precogs in ''[[w:Minority Report|Minority Report]]''.
*[[Cavil]] is absent from the episode's basestar scenes, aside from a brief closeup from a previous episode used to illustrate Baltar's thoughts about the seven models he has seen. It should be noted that the Cavil model was neither seen on Caprica in "[[Downloaded]]" nor on the scenes set on the baseship we have seen so far. While this is likely due to the fact that actor [[Dean Stockwell]] is not available, it should be noted that there were no stand-ins used to indicate the presence of the Cavils, as it happened with Simon and Conoy in "Downloaded".
**Also, with the exception of [[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Grace Park]], all the actors playing Cylons are guest stars and not members of the regular cast. As this means that having all seven Cylon models present in an episode will drive up its production cost, it is unlikely that all Cylons will be present in many episodes. ([[Simon]] had only a handful of lines in "[[Occupation]]" and "[[Precipice]]", and [[Three]] was the only non-regular Cylon to appear in "[[Collaborators]]".)
**It should be noted that [[Dean Stockwell]] is a prominent actor, an Academy-award nominee, and most likely the highest paid regular guest star on the show outside of [[Lucy Lawless]]. This is the most probable reason why he has not appeared as frequently as other guests.
* More parallels between the Cylons and humans are drawn with the revelation that Cylons make use of such safety features as distress calls.
* Baltar correctly deduces that basestars have a supply of Colonial vessels that they have obtained during the attacks. The exact source of these vessels is left unspoken, though it's possible they may originate from the Colonies themselves, or have been salvaged from destroyed battlestars.

=== Production ===

*The name of the director, [[Jean de Segonzac]], is misspelled in the on-screen credits. He is listed as Jean de Segoznac.
*A scene depicted in a promotional photo showing copies of Number Six, Three, Five, Eight and baby [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] in a projected church was [[List of Deleted Scenes - Season 3 (RDM)#Torn|cut from the episode]].

=== Changes ===

*Originally, the episode was meant to focus on the relationship between Kara Thrace and Kacey and the title is an allusion to that. Since the writers felt that Thrace would still be too scarred from her ordeal with Leoben, that storyline was changed and became the episode's B-plot. The title still refers to the differences between the people who escaped New Caprica and those who stayed behind ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion Season Three]]).
*Lee Adama's rapid weight loss was not intended to play out like shown. He was supposed to join the Marines and become a spartan soldier, which did not work out however. When the writers realized that they didn't know what to do with the storyline, it was wrapped up quickly (Season 3 Companion).
*In the [[Podcast:Torn|podcast]], Moore notes that some scenes had to be highly altered from what was initially planned. For example, the opening conversation of Baltar and Six had to be redubbed (which is the reason for the light covering their mouths) and in the original script Thrace simply ran out of gas, instead of crashing with another Viper.

=== Other ===
* The new survivor tally, 41,422, is down 13 from the previous episode, accounting for the 13 individuals executed as noted in "[[Torn]]".

== Analysis ==

*Lee Adama's demotion fits with the [[w:Brevet (military)|real-life practice of brevetting]].
*Narcho is flying in [[Red Team]] with Apollo and Starbuck. If Red Team is composed entirely of pilots who didn't get any flying experience during the colonization of New Caprica, this could indicate that he settled on the planet. This setup of the groups can't be confirmed, but is somewhat implied by Kat's "Let's show these lazy fraks how it's done".
*Gaeta appears to have inherited Baltar's mantle as the scientific adviser (it is unclear whether he holds any additional positions), and is focusing his efforts on refining a course for Earth.
*Following her actions during the [[Battle of New Caprica]], Sharon Agathon seems to have garnered some degree of acceptance among the ''Galactica'' air group, including humorous, even affectionate choices for her callsign by fellow pilots.
*"Athena" is the name of [[Athena (TOS)|Adama's daughter]] in the [[Original Series]]. Sharon Agathon has gained (at this point) a daughter-like trust equal to that which William Adama once gave Kara Thrace before this episode.
*The baseship hybrid appears to be viewed by the Cylons in the same way as the Centurions and Raiders. The Hybrid has no vote in the Cylon decision-making process, despite its ability to express its thoughts and feelings, after a fashion.
*The Cylons have a [[Raptor]] and [[flight suit]] at their disposal, acquired during the occupation of [[New Caprica]] or from captured Colonial military assets on the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]]. Given their past history of infiltration, it should not be surprising that the Cylons have these small Colonial ships in their possession.
**From a production point of view, using a Raptor is also a convenient way to get Baltar to another basestar, as no interior set exists for the [[Heavy Raider]].
*Given Admiral Adama's conversation with Tigh in the rec room, Adama clearly doesn't know of Tigh's hand in executing [[Ellen Tigh|his wife]] for collaborating with the Cylons. ([[Hero|Resolution]]).
*Despite having found the map to Earth in the [[Tomb of Athena]] story arc, Admiral Adama still displays a level of skepticism towards finding Earth. It isn't until Gaeta begins linking the prophecies with actual star chart data<ref>The star chart Gaeta consults, marked as from the Pegasus, is a real chart of the sky as seen from the Solar system. This is presumably a production mistake</ref>, such as the red and blue pulsars, does Adama's facial expression change to a mild expression of surprise.
**Adama's skeptical nature on the path to Earth is touched on again in the episodes "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" and "[[Dirty Hands]]".
*Despite claims made during his bid for the presidency, Baltar worked on finding the location of Earth during his time as president, likely hiding his notes from the Cylons after the occupation. During his discussion with Adama and Roslin regarding Earth's location, Gaeta surmises that Baltar likely pursued the research as he wanted to get there himself eventually.
*In "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", Boomer claims that there were eight Cylon agents left in the Fleet. After the occupation of New Caprica, it is unlikely that any of the known seven models was able to maintain its cover within the Fleet.
* While smaller vessels such as Vipers, Raiders and Raptors are portrayed with more realistic space-flight dynamics than has been typical of much filmed science fiction and space opera, they are still under several circumstances portrayed as behaving like aircraft. An example crops up in this episode during the discussion after Starbuck's collision about landing a Viper on empty tanks. In actuality, as long as the Viper and its battlestar wouldn't have greatly differing relative velocities, there really is no need for the Viper's main engines to be running at all. As long as it has some RCS fuel it will be able to maneuver to a safe landing based on the principle of inertia.

== Questions ==
* Would it be possible for the Colonials to salvage the derelict basestar for their own purposes? ([[A Measure of Salvation|Answer]])
* What has happened to the [[Final Five|remaining five]] Cylon models? Are they so secretive that none of the other seven variants have any knowledge of them? Did the Cylons permanently box the other models because they were dissenters to the cause of the Cylon race? ([[Crossroads, Part II#Act 4|Answer]]), ([[No Exit|Answer 2]])
* If the known seven Cylons don't speak about the "Final Five", why does Caprica-Six mention the existence of twelve models in the first place? Did whatever happened between them occur after the Fall of the Colonies? ([[No Exit|Answer]])
* If Baltar was able to extrapolate the location of the Lion's Head Nebula just from reading the sacred scriptures, can it not be assumed that someone else could have conducted the same research at an earlier date?
* What is Caprica-Six going to do now that she realizes Baltar may be withholding critically sensitive information? ([[A Measure of Salvation|Answer]])
* Cally and Galen Tyrol are both seen working on the hangar deck. Who is taking care of their baby? Has a system been put in place to take care of the crew's children? ([[A Day in the Life|Answer]])
* Is Athena infected with the Cylon virus? ([[A Measure of Salvation|Answer]])
* As the probe is supposed to come from the Thirteenth Tribe, and is affecting Cylons, does that mean that Cylons have been in existence since the time of the Thirteenth Tribe? Or is it accidental that the probe is viral for Cylons? ([[A Measure of Salvation|Answer]])
** What is the "genetic pool" that the human form Cylons all come from, and has it existed for longer than the Cylons themselves? ([[No Exit|Possible Answer]])
* Is the virus biological or technological in nature? The "inevitable once we took human form" and "genetic pool" lines indicate that the Cylons think it is biological. On the other hand, their speculation that it could survive through a download process implies that it could technological in nature (i.e. computer virus). Or is the virus both biological and technological, like the Cylons themselves? ([[A Measure of Salvation|Answer]])
* Is Boomer the Number Eight in the control center of the basestar with Baltar? If so, is her involvement with the Cylons on that basestar to find a map of Earth an indication that she has finally accepted her identity as a Cylon and disassociated herself from humanity? Does she think that peaceful coexistence with the thirteenth tribe would be possible, despite the failure of New Caprica?
* How do the Cylons know for sure that the probe was left by the Thirteenth Tribe?
* Where is Cavil?
* Why does Hybrid have a humanoid body when it is essentially the CPU of the entire ship? Why would the Cylons go to such elaborate lengths to create a semi-humanoid form Cylon just to have it connected to the entire ship? ([[Razor|Answer 1]], [[No Exit|Answer 2]])
* Why are the Cylons searching for Earth. ([[Sometimes a Great Notion|Possible Answer]])

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''On ''Galactica's'' flight deck'':
:'''Chief Tyrol''': (checking Starbuck's Viper) Captain, how did you land this thing?
:'''Kara Thrace''': Pointed it towards the deck and stopped when I got here.
:'''Hot Dog''': Bone-dry, she says. Landed the bird without a drop of fuel.
:'''Lee Adama''': (walking up to Kara) If you want to die, I will open up an airlock for you, but you are not taking one of my Vipers with you.
:'''Kara Thrace''': The bird's on the deck. ''I'm'' on the deck. I don't know what you're bitching about.
:'''Lee Adama''': I don't give a frak what you do, Starbuck. You're done flying.

*''Gaius Baltar sees and hears the Hybrid for the first time'':
:'''Hybrid''': [[Hybrid Utterances|Two protons expelled...]]

*''In the rec room on ''Galactica'''':
:'''Helo''': (referring to the rescue on New Caprica) Hey, we all made sacrifices.
:'''Saul Tigh''': Is that so?
:'''Helo''': Yes, that's right.
:'''Saul Tigh''': Well, while you were pinning wings on your Cylon girlfriend, our people were strapping homemade bombs to their chest, doing what they could to take the bastards out. So forgive me if I don't get all misty over your sacrifices.

*''Adama's feelings towards, and regarding, Starbuck'':
:'''Adama''': You were like a daughter to me once - no more. You're malcontent and a cancer, and I won't have you on my ship. So you have a choice - you can figure out how to become a human being again, and an officer; or you can find another place to live, off of this ship. You're dismissed.

*''Adama's feelings towards, and regarding, Saul Tigh'':
:'''Adama''': You're full of bile, hatred, and I know it has something to do with [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen]]. I'm sorry for that. And if you need time Saul, you take all the time you want, but I gotta run a ship. And the last thing I need is a one-eyed drunk sitting down here, sowing discontent and disobedience. So I'll tell you once again, Saul, you can pick up that weapon and kill me. Or you can get your ass back into your quarters and not leave... 'til you act like the man I've known for the past 30 years.
: '''Saul Tigh''' (picks up weapon and unloads it) That man doesn't exist any more, Bill. And you won't be seeing me again. (drops gun on table, hobbles out of room)

*''The Hybrid's objection to leaving the infected Basestar behind'':
:'''Hybrid''': Mists of dreams drip along the nascent echo, and love no more. End of line.

*''When discovering the dying basestar'':
:'''Athena''': When God's anger awakens even the mighty shall fall.

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Michael Hogan]] as [[Saul Tigh]]
* [[Aaron Douglas]] as [[Galen Tyrol]]
* [[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lt. [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
* [[Nicki Clyne]] as [[Cally Tyrol]]
* [[Alessandro Juliani]] as [[Felix Gaeta]]
* [[Rick Worthy]] as [[Simon]]
* [[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]
* [[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Number Five]]
* [[Luciana Carro]] as Lt. [[Louanne Katraine|Louanne "Kat" Katraine]]
* [[Bodie Olmos]] as Lt. [[Brendan Costanza|Brendan "Hot Dog" Costanza]]
* [[Leah Cairns]] as Lt. [[Margaret Edmondson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]]
* [[Madeline Parker]] as [[Kacey Brynn]]
* [[Sebastian Spence]] as Lt. [[Noel Allison|Noel "Narcho" Allison]]
* [[Emilie Ullerup]] as [[Julia Brynn]]
* [[Tiffany Lyndall-Knight]] as [[Hybrid]]
* [[Rachel Hayward]] as Blonde Woman
* [[Leo Li Chiang]] as [[Tattooed pilot]] (uncredited)

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2009-03-05T04:37:10Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Questions */ adding question about what "and they have a plan" means

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== Overview ==

: ''Continuing from the events of the [[Miniseries]], ''[[Galactica]]'' and the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] must avoid their [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] pursuers, which ambush them every 33 minutes after each successful [[FTL|jump]].''

== Summary ==

=== On ''[[Galactica]]'' ===
* The crew of battlestar ''[[Galactica]]'' have been on continuous alert for some 130.35 hours, during which time the Fleet has had to make an [[FTL|FTL jump]] every 33 minutes to escape their [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] pursuers shortly after their initial escape from [[Ragnar Anchorage]].
* Everyone in the Fleet is beginning to feel the strain – particularly [[Gaius Baltar]], who is also distracted by [[Number Six|Six’s]] repeated conversations about [[God (RDM)|God]] having a plan for him, and also her wanting to have his children.
* Vessels in the Fleet are also beginning to feel the strain: Jump engines and their controlling computers are starting to breakdown or malfunction, requiring ''Galactica'' to linger longer and longer in the Cylon line of fire while the rest of the fleet complete their jumps.
* Following jump number 237, [[Laura Roslin|President Roslin]] receives word from a Dr. [[Amorak]] aboard the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' concerning information on how the Cylons overcame Colonial defenses.
* Overhearing the conversation, Baltar is worried: he knew Amorak at the [[Defence Ministry]]. As Six points out, Amorak might have information on Baltar's complicity with the Cylon attack.
* There is insufficient time before the next jump to bring Amorak aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'', but Roslin wants to see him directly after the jump has been completed.
*[[Anastasia Dualla]] finds time to visit a team of people who are [[Fleet registry|cataloging survivors]] in the Fleet. When she cannot leave her photos to aid in searching for her loved ones, she is amazed to see a corridor that has been [[Memorial hallway|converted into a makeshift memorial]].
* Elsewhere, [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] is having problems accepting her new [[ECO]], [[Crashdown]], and is feeling guilty about leaving [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]] on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] to his fate.
* When the next jump is made, the ''Olympic Carrier'', complete with Dr. Amorak and 1,344 other souls, fails to appear with the rest of the Fleet. Six tries to convince Baltar that it is because God is watching over him.
* Thirty-three minutes later, the Fleet is ready to jump, but the Cylons don’t appear. Adama orders a stand-down from the immediate alert, but the Fleet is to maintain a readiness to jump, in case the Cylons do return.
* When Baltar continues to refuse the concept of God, the ''Olympic Carrier'' reappears; Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] orders the Fleet to [[Action Stations|Condition One alert]], fearing the worst. He orders the jump clocks reset in anticipation of the Cylons arriving.
*The [[Combat Air Patrol]] lead by [[Lee Adama]] intercepts the [[Intersun|starliner]]. Adama orders all communications with the ''Carrier'' jammed and the ''Carrier'' is ordered (through signal lamps) to remain at its current position. When the ''Carrier'' fails to heed orders not to approach the fleet, tensions rise, and a [[Radiological Alarm|radiological alarm]] reveals there is now a nuclear weapon on the liner.
*As the crisis deepens, the Cylons appear precisely 33 minutes after the return of the ''Carrier'', confirming that the ''Carrier'' was used somehow by the Cylons to track the Fleet. Adama wants to destroy the liner, but Roslin hesitates to give the order, as no one can be sure if the 1,345 people aboard the ''Carrier'' are still alive. Baltar is terrified she won't give the order for fear of Amorak's information.
*Six uses the hesitation to push Baltar into “repenting” before God. As soon as he does, Roslin gives the order to destroy the liner. Apollo and [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] (reluctantly) open fire, destroying the liner. After the Fleet makes a jump once more, the Cylon's relentless pursuit is halted.
*A day later, everyone is living with the consequences of their actions. Only [[Billy Keikeya]] has a small nugget of good news: at some point in the proceedings, a baby was born in the Fleet.

===On Caprica===
* [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] is on the run in the rainy woodland, and has [[Wikipedia:Claymore mine|Claymore-like ordnance]] he uses to blow up pursuing [[Cylon Centurion]]s.
* Helo's six days on the run comes to an end when he is captured by the Cylons, after being distracted by the appearance of a [[Number Six]], wearing a white raincoat.
*Helo is “rescued” by [[Sharon Agathon|a copy of Sharon Valerii]], who shoots Six and then leads Helo away into the woods. Helo mistakenly believes that this Valerii copy is actually the [[Sharon Valerii|"Boomer"]] copy that left Caprica and returned to rescue him.

== Notes ==

=== Episode Notes ===

*Continuous jumping badly affects the FTL drives and management systems aboard commercial Colonial vessels, which are not as rugged as ''Galactica's'' military-issue drives.
*The Cylons' FTL technology is more precise than the Colonials'. 238 times they manage to pounce on the Colonial fleet, arriving with precise momentum and trajectory to be able to close the distance and launch an attack. In the Season 2 episode "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]", it is explained that the Cylons have far better navigational computers which allow more accurate jump plots and a greater range.
*According to [[Socinus]], there are 5,251 people in the Fleet from [[Sagittaron]].
*As of "33", there are 60 civilian ships in the Fleet. This number is [[Continuity errors (RDM)#Retcon|retconned]] up from the Miniseries.
*The head count of Colonial citizens at the end of the episode is 47,273.
*At first glance, there appears to be an error with Billy Keikeya's math with the [[survivor count]]. The episode starts with the count being 50,298. He informs Roslin this is in error by 300 = 49,998 survivors. When the ''Olympic Carrier'' is destroyed (1,345 people), he reduces the total to 47,972 – that’s a reduction of 2026, or 681 people ''more'' than listed on the ''Carrier''. However, in [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)#33|deleted scenes]] from this episode, Keikeya is actually reducing the survivor count additional times set between the beginning of the episode and the destruction of the ''Olympic Carrier''. These other deaths just occur off-screen.
*[[Crashdown]] wears a patch of the battlestar ''[[Triton (RDM)|Triton]]'' on his flight suit, which fits to Boomer's comment that she has been saddled with a "refugee from ''Triton''". ''Triton's'' [[battlestar group]] number is ''39'', but is erroneously displayed on the patch as ''BS'''T'''-39'' instead of ''BSG-39''. The costuming department very likely assumed that "BSG" stands for "Battlestar Galactica" and changed the last letter accordingly. However, "[[Water]]" and the ''[[Pegasus]]'' patch establish that it stands for "battlestar group".

=== Production Notes ===

*This episode won the [[Awards and Honors|2005 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form]].
*When Season 1 premiered in the United States, "33" and "[[Water]]" aired back-to-back as a two hour TV event. This was also the case when [[Season 3 (2006-07)|Season 3]] first aired in the United States with the episodes "[[Occupation]]" and "[[Precipice]]".
*When the first few episodes of the series began airing in the US on the [[Sci Fi Channel]], title cards were shown at the beginning of each episode, i.e. "33" or "Water" flashing in white letters on a black screen, and then the episode would begin. These episode titles stopped midway in Season 1.
*[[Zoic]] visual effects artists hid small signs of movement within the ''Olympic Carrier'' in close-up effect shots as something of a morbid joke. Lights in the windows appear to flicker on and off rather rapidly and when slowed down there is some kind of movement visible on the inside of the ship. Originally, the scene was to confirm the existence of civilians inside the ship by showing civilians peering out the windows.<ref>{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=47|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>
*In the DVD commentary for this episode, Ron D. Moore states that during the scene when Dualla hands Commander Adama a set of reports that he reads aloud (including fuel shortages, dozens of crewmen breaking down from nervous exhaustion, etc), Edward James Olmos ad-libbed "and ten suicides" in one take. The production team really liked the ad-lib, and thought the way Olmos acted the scene was fantastic. However, there were concerns that the network would think this would make an already ''extremely'' "dark" episode far '''too''' dark and alienate the audience during the premiere, and the line was reluctantly cut.
*While waiting to film a Viper sequence for this episode at 11 or 12 o'clock at night, [[Katee Sackhoff]] fell asleep inside the Viper cockpit.<ref>{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=44|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>
*To add realism to the sleep deprivation motif, Olmos enlisted the aid of a sleep deprivation expert and also curtailed his sleeping habits to a maximum of three hours per night, noting how it affected him. With the help of this expert, he relayed to the rest of the crew how deprivation affects the human body and mind. Additionally, director [[Michael Rymer]] told the actors to choose one symptom to play, so as to avoid distracting repetition.<ref>{{cite_book|last=Bassom|first=David|authorlink=|authorlinkurl=|coauthors=|year=2005|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]|pages=46|editor=ed. Adam "Adama" Newell|publisher=Titan Books|location=|id=ISBN 1-84576-0972}}</ref>

== Analysis ==
*'''Why did the Cylons come "every 33 minutes"?''' Short answer: it was a number Ron Moore has stated he picked at random, with no other significance. The long answer is available on [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/#a000012 Ron Moore's blog].
*The cast actually consulted with a sleep deprivation expert before this episode, making a large effort to accurately depict the effects of sleep deprivation on their characters, and it really comes through on screen. Rather than simply yawning alot and constantly saying "wow, I'm so tired", the cast met the series' goal of realistically portraying their symptoms: they behave aggravated, they start to forget things, their minds just start "slowing down".
*The [[Virtual beings|virtual Number Six]]'s motives, and her origins, become murkier, and Baltar's tendency to listen to her advice increases.
*Raptors are general purpose vehicles that handle reconaissance, electronic countersurveillance on [[Combat Air Patrol|CAP]]s, troop deploys and other tasks. In a [[You Can't Go Home Again| later episode]] a Raptor is used for rescuing ejected pilots during combat.
*The [[Memorial hallway]] scene continues the writers' allusion to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States to the events of the Miniseries through the use of the many memorials, the confusion in finding lost loved ones, and Dualla's amazement at the size of the memorial. (A [[Lest We Forget|picture of a Colonial soldier]] on one of the Colonies during its destruction also plays on the intense feelings felt by many Americans when they saw similar pictures of New York City firefighters at the ruins of the World Trade Center.)

== Questions ==

*Billy Keikeya reports that the number of survivors is down by 300 - some lost through death from injuries, etc., some "lost" through initial inaccurate counts, and the rest have "disappeared". How can people simply "disappear" in the Fleet? ([[Black Market|Possible Answer]])
*Did [[Doctor Amorak]] truly have something on Baltar's involvement in the holocaust?
*Was Amorak even aboard the ''Olympic Carrier''?
*Is Six actually in contact with other Cylons, and thus involved in the disappearance / reappearance of the ''Olympic Carrier''?
*How long was the ''Olympic Carrier'' under Cylon control?
*What happened to the group of survivors [[Helo]] was left with in the [[Miniseries]]? ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Story So Far|Answer: Radiation sickness kills most survivors]])
*Was the person speaking over the wireless when the ''Olympic Carrier'' returned really its captain, or a humanoid Cylon?
*Were there any people aboard the ''Olympic Carrier'' when it was destroyed? ([[Olympic Carrier#Notes|Answer]])
*What is the Cylons' plan? ([[The Farm|Partial Answer 1]], [[Downloaded|Partial Answer 2]], [[No Exit|Partial Answer 3]])

== Official Statements ==

=== Note on [["Lest We Forget"]] ===
{{From RDM blog}}

:"It's probably been asked before, but I'm curious as to whom[sic] is in the picture in the Viper Pilot's briefing room, facing away from the camera . . . the one the pilots, including [[William Adama|Commander Adama]], touch when they enter and leave? This is touching, and is a wonderful human element to the story. So who is it?"

:There was a scene cut from [[33|"33"]] where we saw [[Laura Roslin]] being given her copy of the photo along with a card that said it was taken on the roof of the capitol building on Aerilon during the attack. The photo was inspired by the famous shot of the fire-fighters raising the flag at Ground Zero that became iconic. I thought the Colonies would have their own version of this -- a snapshot taken in the moment that becomes a symbol of the day they can never forget and of all they had lost. The photo itself is of a soldier falling to his knees (possibly shot or simply overcome by emotion) as he stands on the rooftop overlooking the devastation of his city, while the Colonial flag waves at the edge of frame. The inscription below the photo on Laura's plaque reads, [["Lest We Forget"]] in itself a reference to the inscription on the watch presented to John Wayne's character in "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon."

=== Comments from the Cast ===

*"Insomnia. Nobody has slept. Everyone's just coming to terms with the fact that they have lost everybody that they've loved or relate to." -- [[Jamie Bamber]], [http://scifi.com/battlestar/bts/video/mov/video_06_320.mov]

*"It was a hard episode, because, you just had to basically fall apart." -- [[Katee Sackhoff]], [http://scifi.com/battlestar/bts/video/mov/video_06_320.mov]

*"Episode 1 is extremely docu-style because the characters haven't actually slept for five days (sic) and they have been running from the Cylons for the 250th time. And it's very stressful and they're about to lose the plot completely because of sleep deprivation." -- [[Michael Rymer]], [http://scifi.com/battlestar/bts/video/mov/video_06_320.mov]

* ''Bamber discusses why "33" is his favorite episode:''
: My favorite episode...I'd say "33"...the very first one, just because that was the unknown. We were in an unknown situation. We'd made a decent [[Miniseries|mini-series]] and we were all very excited. To read that script, I thought structurally it was really compelling. It was kind of a nutshell of what the whole of our story is, which is a nightmare, waking up constantly to find that the monster is on you again, and that's basically the modus operandi of the show, and Ron [Moore] captured it in one episode. I think that is really the perfect episode of ''Battlestar Galactica''.<ref name="acedmag">{{cite_web|url=http://acedmagazine.com/content/view/677/1/|title=ACED Magazine: Battlestar Galactica: Cast Interviews|date=24 November 2007|accessdate=25 November 2007|last=Bensoussan|first=Jenna|format=|language=}}</ref>

=== Excerpt from the Official Companion ===
In ''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]'', the dedicated performance by the cast, trying to accurately and realistically depict extensive sleep deprivation on-screen, was explained:
:"''Battlestar Galactica<nowiki>'</nowiki>''s first season première required the show's cast members to depict their characters under extreme physical and emotional duress, as they faced sleep deprivation and the constant threat of Cylon attack. This unique and intriguing acting challenge prompted Edward James Olmos to enlist the assistance of a sleep deprivation expert, who met with the cast shortly prior to the starting of shooting. Olmos and several other cast members also restricted their sleeping patterns a few days before filming, to gain a better understanding of sleep deprivation.

:"I rested just before we actually shot the episode, because I didn't want to go on-camera exhausted," explains Olmos. "But in the week before shooting, I only had about three hours of sleep per night and I studied myself to get to know how to pay the symptoms of sleep deprivation. About two days away from shooting, I was sitting in this meeting and everyone was looking at me as I tried to make sense. I told everyone, "This is what happens when you go without sleep — you don't act funny or yawn all the time, it's more the case that your mind doesn't function correctly". The doctor later expanded on this, and pretty soon everyone was tuned in. So when we went into the episode, everyone knew exactly what they were doing, and it was beautiful to watch."" (page 46)

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

*''Baltar is having a vision of climbing into bed with Number Six''
:'''Six:''' You know you're not safe.
:'''Baltar:''' No, course not. The Cylons will follow us again, as they have the last two hundred and thirty seven times.
:'''Six:''' You're right, you know. There are limits. Eventually you'll make a mistake.
:'''Baltar:''' And then you'll kill us all. Yes. Yes, I know, but...not for another thirty-three minutes.

*{{audio|33tighspeech.mp3|''Tigh and Adama addressing the CIC crew:''}}
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Yes, we're tired. Yes, there is no relief. Yes, the Cylons keep coming after us time after time after time. And yes, we are still expected to do our jobs!
:'''Commander Adama''': We make mistakes, people die. There aren't many of us left.

* ''When Lee Adama and Kara Thrace are on ''Galactica's'' flight deck:''
:'''Lee Adama''': Hey, did you see the note from the XO?
:'''Kara Thrace''': I saw it. No way.
:'''Lee Adama''': Kara, everyone else--
:'''Kara Thrace''': I don't fly with stims. They fudge with your reflexes, your reaction time.
:'''Lee Adama''': Come on, Kara, give me a break. Just--
:'''Kara Thrace''': Why are we arguing about this?
:'''Lee Adama''': I have no idea.
:'''Kara Thrace''': Neither do I. You're the [[CAG]], act like one.
:'''Lee Adama''': What does that mean?
:'''Kara Thrace''': It means that you're still acting like everyone's best friend. We're not friends. You're the CAG. "Be careful out there?" Our job isn't to be careful, it's to shoot frakking [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]] out of the sky. "Good Hunting" is what you say. And one of your idiot pilots is acting like a child and refusing to take her pills. So she either says "Yes, sir" and obeys a direct order, or you smack her in the mouth and drag her sorry ass to [[sickbay]] and you make her take those pills.
:(Lee and Kara both start laughing)
:'''Lee Adama''': Well, I'm glad I'm not working for you.
:'''Kara Thrace''': (laughing) Damn right you're glad.
:'''Lee Adama''': So do I have to smack you in the mouth, Lieutenant?
:'''Kara Thrace''': No sir, I'll take my pills. (takes pills from Lee) Perfect.
:'''Lee Adama''': Carry on.
:'''Kara Thrace''': (half-heartedly saluting) Yes, sir.

* ''When Commander Adama and Colonel Tigh are talking outside the [[CIC]]:''
:'''Colonel Tigh''': (grunting) Oh...a couple hours rack time does sound awfully sweet right about now...
:'''Commander Adama''': You deserve it.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': You know, the truth is, all this has me feeling...well, more alive than I have in years.
:'''Commander Adama''': You look that way too. It's good to see you without the cup in your hand.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Ah, don't start.
:'''Commander Adama''': I know there's a whole lot of people on this ship, that wish you weren't feeling as good.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': (laughing) If the crew doesn't hate the XO, then he's not doing his job. Besides, I've gotta make the old man look good.
:'''Commander Adama''': I always look good.
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Look in the mirror.
:'''Commander Adama''': Seriously...
:'''Colonel Tigh''': Sir?
:'''Commander Adama''': It's one thing to push the crew. It's another thing to break them.

== Guest stars ==
*[[Michael Hogan]] as Colonel [[Saul Tigh]]
*[[Aaron Douglas]] as Chief [[Galen Tyrol]]
*[[Tahmoh Penikett]] as Lieutenant [[Karl Agathon|Karl "Helo" Agathon]]
*[[Kandyse McClure]] as Petty Officer [[Anastasia Dualla]]
*[[Paul Campbell]] as [[Billy Keikeya]]
*[[Alessandro Juliani]] as Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta]]
*[[Samuel Witwer]] as [[Crashdown]]
*[[Alonso Oyarzun]] as Specialist [[Socinus]]
*[[Nicki Clyne]] as Specialist [[Cally Tyrol|Cally Henderson]]

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Gordon Ecker: /* Slick */ the scenes are mostly from her PoV, we don't know what it looked like to other people

[[image:Tigh_Me_Up_Tigh_Me_Down-Baltar_Six.jpg|thumb|The virtual Six and Gaius Baltar in his lab aboard ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''.]]

'''Virtual beings'''<ref>{{bsgwiki term}}</ref> denote the curious virtual images seen by [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]].

The Season 3 episode "[[Torn]]" establishes the [[humanoid Cylon]] visualization process known as [[projection]]. In the [[Miniseries]] and Season 1, before the term "projection" was introduced, the character of [[Gaius Baltar]] has frequent visions of an image of his Cylon love interest from Caprica, now known as [[Caprica-Six]].

After her [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] from the Caprica mission, Caprica-Six herself is haunted by a virtual image of Gaius Baltar.

Neither character has revealed the presence of these images to each other or any other character as of the episode "[[Deadlock]]". Occasionally both Baltar and Caprica-Six have been viewed reacting to their virtual companions, either by talking to themselves or by physical reaction, though this has generally been discounted as general "oddness".

The personality of each image is often represented in the clothing that they wear. Virtual Six often appears in a revealing red dress, and the virtual Baltar appears in a pinstriped suit, apparently custom-tailored ([[Miniseries]], "[[Downloaded]]").

Each personality is not a copy of the original character's personality, but generally behaves as a militant version of the original. The Virtual Six espouses Cylon philosophy and [[Cylon Religion|religion]] in a zealous, unwavering manner. Likewise, the virtual Baltar often criticizes Caprica-Six when she attempts to rationalize the destruction of the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]] or other Cylon motivations. Both personalities tend to sway its actual opposite to side with their philosophy: For virtual Baltar, the need to become more human (and, like the actual Baltar himself, selfish); for virtual Six, worship of the Cylon [[God (RDM)|God]] and distancing Baltar from any opportunity to give support to the Colonial causes.

The purpose and origins of the visions experienced by Baltar and Caprica-Six have not been disclosed in aired episodes.

==Baltar's Virtual Six==
Baltar's virtual Six first appears as he escapes the destroyed world of [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] on [[Sharon Valerii]]'s [[Raptor]] ([[Miniseries, Night 1]]).

[[Image:brainscan.jpg|left|thumb|Baltar receives his brain scan from Dr. [[Cottle]], as his virtual Six looks on in amusement.]]
Baltar initially believes that the virtual Six is a hallucination in its first few weeks of appearances, but later believes the virtual Six's initial suggestion that she is generated from a Cylon cybernetic implant. He disproves this notion when Doctor [[Cottle]] gives him a brain scan ([[Downloaded]]).

Baltar's virtual Six is aware of events, people and places that Baltar does not appear to know consciously. She tells him of a [[Cylon transponder]] hidden in ''Galactica's'' [[CIC]], and appears to aid him in his conversion from Colonial polytheism to Cylon monotheism through guiding him in how to destroy a Cylon [[tylium]] refinery ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]). The source for virtual Six's data is unclear.

[[image:KobolHallu.jpg|right|thumb|Virtual Six and Baltar on Kobol.]]
Baltar's visions of Six not only have the Cylon appearing with him on ''[[Galactica]]'', but the two also envision themselves in Baltar's now-destroyed home, on the beach, and other locales. The virtual Six projection seems to be able to force Baltar to see additional items in his environment, such as the human skulls on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] as well as visions of the interior of the ancient [[Opera House]] and an image of what virtual Six believes to be a Cylon-human hybrid child. When an [[Hera Agathon|actual child]] does appear in the Fleet, the virtual Six claims it is her vision fulfilled ([[Downloaded]]).

Over time, Baltar is seen by some characters speaking to himself, which is often the case when he is speaking to Virtual Six. In several instances, the virtual Six appears to Baltar to be a physical entity, grabbing him by his clothes or body, or assisting him with objects ("[[Six Degrees of Separation]]", "[[Taking A Break From All Your Worries]]"). She has even demonstrated an ability to physically interact with Baltar. On one occasion, she pushed him into a bulkhead and grabbed him by the throat. In another example, she lifted him into a standing position after he was beaten by a Galactica marine ([[Escape Velocity]]). In both cases, this provoked reactions from other people.

The virtual Six has been present when Caprica-Six is near only twice. She is also conspicuously absent during [[Shelly Godfrey]]'s tenure on ''Galactica'' ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]). The virtual Six seems to, for the most part, vanish during the period when Caprica-Six and Baltar renew their relationship on New Caprica. When Baltar is aboard a Cylon basestar, Caprica-Six explains the projection process to him while the virtual Six hints that this process is very similar to how she and Baltar communicate and that Baltar may himself be a Cylon ([[Torn]]). Virtual Six also appears to Baltar, when he discovers Hera under Maya's dead body and disappears when the real Number Six comes near Baltar and the baby ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

Virtual Six has a [[Music of Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|musical theme]], a simple 9-note motif with a staccato xylophone and some violins, which plays behind almost all her appearances. This theme also plays without Six present in "[[Rapture]]" after [[D'Anna Biers]] collapses in Baltar's arms after her vision of the [[Final Five]], until Baltar is clubbed by [[Galen Tyrol]].

From the end of Season 2 on, the virtual Six claims more often to be an angel from [[God (RDM)|God]].

==Caprica-Six's Virtual Baltar==
[[image:LBlt.jpg|thumb|left|Turnabout is fair play: Caprica-Six, the virtual Baltar and an actual [[Number Three]]]]

When a ''virtual Gaius Baltar'' appears to Caprica-Six in "Downloaded", the notion that the actual Gaius Baltar was part of a Cylon plan to manipulate him via the virtual Six is revealed to be highly unlikely, as other Cylons are unaware of him and do not mention the plan or its effects to Caprica-Six.

The virtual Baltar's appearance and demeanor is just as much an extreme opposite of the actual Baltar as the virtual Six's behavior is to Caprica-Six.

At her resurrection, the virtual Baltar immediately tells Caprica-Six that only she can see and hear him, and not to reveal what she sees to the other Cylons present. The virtual Baltar is never asked by Caprica-Six about his origins.

The virtual Baltar confronts Caprica-Six with her guilt in the slaughter of billions of human beings, and with the logical error behind the Cylons' actions. Under the influence of the virtual Baltar, Caprica-Six speaks out against the war alongside another resurrected "[[hero of the Cylon]]", [[Sharon Valerii]]. The two forge a new [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|quasi-benevolent path]], [[Exodus, Part II|albeit temporarily]], for the Cylon race.

The revelation in "[[Torn]]" about the Cylons' projecting abilities suggests that the virtual Baltar is generated by Caprica-Six's own projection ability. Since the actual Baltar is not confirmed as a Cylon, the origins of his virtual Six are questioned by Dr. Baltar himself during the revelation of the principles of projection.

The virtual Baltar appears irregularly in seasons 2 and 3. In "[[The Woman King]]", Caprica-Six is observed by [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Tory Foster]] as Caprica-Six speaks and kisses the virtual Baltar, who is, of course, invisible to Roslin and Foster.

While Baltar's virtual Six claims to be an angel sent from God, Six's virtual Baltar seems to be contemptuous of the Cylons' concept of God ([[Downloaded]]). He is also described by [[Ronald D. Moore|Ron Moore]] as more of a "devil" figure in Six's consciousness<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Downloaded|act=Three|id=|timestamp=|totalrunning=}}</ref>.

While the virtual Baltar acts mostly as a conversational foil for Six, in "[[Crossroads, Part I]]" he informs her that [[Saul Tigh]] has suffered the loss of a woman close to him, to assist Six in dealing with the interrogation by Tigh. It is uncertain how he or she obtained this information.

== Gaius Baltar's Virtual Baltar ==

After his ascension to [[Cult of Baltar|cult]] leader, Gaius Baltar encounters a well-dressed virtual version of himself after he meets [[Tory Foster]]. Baltar is initially shocked by his sudden appearance but eventually becomes amused by the idea of having himself as a conversational foil for once instead of Six. This virtual Baltar encourages him to engage in a relationship with Foster, claiming that she is "special," and guides him, after a fashion, through her covert interrogation attempt. This virtual Baltar does not elaborate on that point, but Baltar follows the virtual version's lead ([[Six of One]]).

It is unknown whether or not this virtual Baltar is the same one that Caprica-Six sees. Baltar asks if he is the virtual Six in another form, but the virtual Baltar points out that she would have little reason to disguise herself from Baltar.

As of the episode "[[Deadlock]]", Baltar has only encountered this manifestation once.

== Laura Roslin's Virtual Elosha ==
[[Laura Roslin]] converses with a being in the form of [[Elosha]] during what should be zero-time jump sequences on the way to the Resurrection Hub. ([[The Hub]]) This virtual being is unlike the others, in that not only do they interact outside the realm of others, it takes place during a time interval that should not exist. The being seems to have some knowledge of the future events, such as Roslin's death and the fact that [[William Adama]] waits for her, suggesting both reality for the being and the out-of-time conversations. Unlike Starbuck's Leoben, the experience is difficult to explain with unconscious dreaming or hallucination.

== The Final Five's Virtual Beings ==
After recovering his memories of [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] due to being shot in the head, [[Samuel Anders]] reports that the [[Final Five]] were originally warned of impending nuclear destruction of Earth two thousand years earlier by images of people no one else could see. This information allowed them to prepare their recreation of [[Resurrection (RDM)|Cylon Resurrection]] and the ship on which they escaped in advance of the disaster. The one that appeared to Anders looked like a woman, the one that appeared to [[Tory Foster]] looked like a man. [[Galen Tyrol]], much like Gaius Baltar, thought he might have a neural chip ([[No Exit]]).

== Slick ==
[[Kara Thrace]] encounters a vision of her father<ref>[[Podcast:Someone to Watch Over Me]]</ref> going by the name of Slick, she does not recognize him as her father. As she spends time with him, she recalls playing the piano with her father. She assists him in composing a song and compares him to her father. While she plays the piano with him, she recalls playing the piano with her father as a child. She recalls a certain song, and notices that the score resembles one of [[Hera]]'s drawing. As she plays the song with him, [[Saul Tigh]] and [[Tory Foster]] recognize the song as [[The Music|the same song they heard at the Ionian Nebula]]. When Saul grabs her and asks her about the song, Slick vanishes ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).

Starbuck seems to converse in a loud voice with Slick from the bar to the piano stage, but no other characters at the bar react in any way, unlike the way that other characters would notice Baltar having his quieter conversations with Virtual Six. Yet Starbuck is not unconscious as she may have been for her encounter with her virtual Leoben nor physically elsewhere. As she is led to play the opening strains of [[The Music]], she is really in the bar and really playing the piano, and is noticed by the Cylons.

==Notes==
*The [[virtual Leoben|virtual "Leoben"]] that appears to [[Kara Thrace]] in the episode "[[Maelstrom]]" only appears to her in a vision while the pilot is unconscious. Since this virtual Leoben does not fit the Baltar-Six analogue, Battlestar Wiki considers him separately to the above.
*[[William Adama]] sees and converses with his [[Carolanne Adama|deceased ex-wife]] each year on their anniversary as demonstrated in "[[A Day in the Life]]". While the episode where this occurs shows William and Carolanne together in places and settings (ostensibly at their home on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]), this is a dramatic representation of Adama's ordinary imagination of what Carolanne may have thought about his predicament. As such, the visualizations of Carolanne Adama are ''not'' a virtual being similar to those above.
*[[Saul Tigh]] sees [[Ellen Tigh#Saul's "Virtual Ellen"|his dead wife]] in place of [[Caprica Six]] ([[Escape Velocity]]). This could be a simple hallucination, or, as Tigh is a [[humanoid Cylon]], an example of [[projection]].
*When holding a two thousand year-old, mangled mailbox hatch from the lobby of the Tighs' apartment building, Saul sees a dying Ellen again in a vision from his and her prior incarnations on Earth. Ellen is depicted in the vision as fully aware of their future reincarnations and the cyclical nature of their existence, which she prophesises for past-Saul in the moment before they both die. ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).
*In the fifth [[Razor Flashbacks|Razor Flashback]], while exploring the lab, Adama has a hallucination of a hand reaching out to grab him from a device similar to a [[resurrection tank|resurrection]] or [[Hybrid]] tank. However this could be a stress-induced hallucination. The same may be the case for the screaming prisoners in the lab, which could also be explained as a visualization for the audience. However, the voice Adama hears of the [[First Hybrid]] is the real voice, so this part at least is not a hallucination.
*Beginning in Season 3, Baltar's Virtual Six begins appearing less frequently, and makes only a few appearances in Season 4. A scene was filmed for "[[The Road Less Traveled]]" in which Virtual Six, stating that Baltar no longer needs her anymore, says goodbye to him and fades away; this scene was deleted (but included on the Season 4.0 DVD). Virtual Six reappeared after an absence of many episodes in "[[Deadlock]]", potentially rendering this deleted scene non-canonical.
*In the podcast for [[No Exit]], Ronald Moore refers to the Final Five's virtual beings as "the Messengers" and indicates that they are significant to the overall storyline.

== Official Statements ==
*When asked by a fan at a convention about the differences between this Baltar and the real Baltar, actor [[James Callis]] described Six’s Baltar as a man who “finally has his shit together.”<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZZHl0Ls5U&mode=related&search=|title=James Callis (Gaius Baltar) Q&A FanExpo 2k6 - Part 3|date=September 04, 2006|accessdate=January 24, 2007|last=|first=|format=YouTube video|language=English}}</ref>. ('''Warning''': Video contains some explicit language)

* Callis mentioned at the same convention that his personal theory is that Baltar's internal Six is a being from another universe or higher plane of existence who only Baltar can interact with. This may relate back to the "angel" theory <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZZHl0Ls5U&mode=related&search=|title=James Callis (Gaius Baltar) Q&A FanExpo 2k6 - Part 3|date=September 04, 2006|accessdate=January 24, 2007|last=|first=|format=YouTube video|language=English}}</ref>. ('''Warning''': Video contains some explicit language)

* Actress [[Tricia Helfer]] has said that she has long since given up on trying to figure out just what Baltar's internal Six is. <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://tv.ign.com/articles/756/756477p1.html|title=IGN Interview: Battlestar Galactica's Tricia Helfer|date=January 18, 2007|accessdate=January 24, 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=English}}</ref> She believes Caprica-Six and Baltar both having internal counterparts is related to the scene from the [[Miniseries]] where she saves Baltar from the shock wave of the nuclear bomb that destroyed [[Caprica City]].

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Cylon Models

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Gordon Ecker: /* Reproductive Difficulties */ we don't know why the miscarriage happened, and according to the Deadlock podcast, the cause is supposed to be ambiguous; +info from Deadlock podcast

:''For information on the [[Original Series]] Cylons, see [[Cylons (TOS)]].''

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==The original Cylons==
The first Cylons in the Twelve Colonies, created by [[Daniel Graystone]], were robotic, but looked human.
{{spoiltext|Graystone's daughter [[Zoe Graystone|Zoe]] died in a suicide bombing. After learning that his daughter uploaded her personality into an online avatar before her death, Graystone decided to recreate Zoe as a robot, using technology stolen from his [[Tauron (RDM)|Tauron]] competitor, [[Tomas Vergis]] with the help of his wife [[Amanda Graystone|Amanda]] and [[Joseph Adama]], whose wife and daughter also died in the same explosion. Zoe-A, the holographic avatar, was downloaded into a robot brain, and thus became Zoe-R, the first cybernetic life-form node, or Cylon. Graystone also created a Cylon version of [[Tamara Adama]], but her father was appalled by it, and decided to repent his actions.}}

==Centurion Model 0005==
[[Image:Cent 005.jpg|thumb|Cylon Centurion during the First Cylon War ([[Razor]])]]
Model Name: Cylon Centurion
:''Main article: [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]]''
The Centurion Model 0005<ref>This model was included in the miniseries primarily as an homage to the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]]. Within the context of the Re-imagined Series, the Model 0005 is over 40 years old, and was the last assumed appearance of the Cylons after the war.</ref>, glimpsed briefly in two scenes of the [[Miniseries]], was apparently the latest Cylon model to have been extensively documented by Colonial authorities after the [[Cylon War]]. It is a primitive model, resembling a short, clumsy humanoid with a single red eye - or as some of the Colonials contemptuously referred to them, "chrome [[toaster]]s". According to [[Saul Tigh]],<ref>From "[[Resistance (episode)|Resistance]]", [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season02/202/deleted1.html deleted scene]</ref> they had a distinctive "stink" of machine oil.

These models were apparently the instigators of the Cylon rebellion, or their immediate descendants. They fought in all the major engagements of the Cylon War, including the boardings of ''[[Brenik]]'' and ''[[Galactica]]''. A painting by [[Monclair]] depicts a massive melee between early-model Cylons and joint Aerelon-Caprican ground forces.

Not only were these models sentient, they were far from emotionless — in his recollection of the ''Brenik'', [[Saul Tigh]] recalls their vicious tactics in hand-to-hand combat: "The first one was Duncan Raverty. I found him in the corridor. His guts were strewn around on the floor. Y'know, at first I couldn't figure out why the Cylons would bother doing something like that [...] You had to look into their red eye-slit. They hated us. They hated us so much it wasn't enough just to kill us" ("[[Scattered]]", deleted scene).

While remarks by [[Number Six]] in the miniseries state that "those [walking chrome toaster] models are still around. They have their uses," it is most likely that she is referring to the modern Centurions (below), which seem to have replaced the Model 0005 entirely.

A relatively small group of this model survives the "upgrade" on the later destroyed [[Guardian basestar]] ([[Razor]]).

==Modern Centurion==
[[Image:Cento.jpg|thumb|right|Modern Cylon Centurion, evolved from its First Cylon War predecessors.]]
:''Main article: [[Cylon Centurion]]''
The current mainstay of Cylon ground forces, the modern Centurion is a taller, swifter and more agile unit than the Model 0005. Its "fingers" serve as edged weapons in close-quarters combat, and can retract to make way for projectile weapons built into its forearms.

There are apparently two armor configurations - the Centurions encountered by Lt. [[Karl Agathon]] on occupied [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]] were susceptible to normal small-arms fire, while a boarding party dispatched to ''Galactica'' in a boarding action could only be impeded by explosive rounds ([[Valley of Darkness]]).

While the earlier Centurion models presumably took a leadership role in their war against the Colonials, modern Centurions appear completely mute and are subservient to the human models. To prevent an uprising of their own, the human models did not design the modern Centurion with any sentience.<ref>Ron Moore, from [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/blogs/ blog] [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2006/01/#a000114 entries] on January 20th, 2006, confirms "the Centurions are not sentient[,] and their memories/experiences are not downloaded into new bodies when they die." [[William Adama]] notes this to his son in the episode, "[[Exodus, Part I]]."</ref>

==Earth Centurion Models==

After the combined Human/Cylon Fleet arrives on Earth ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]), an excavation unearths the remains of several Centurions scattered throughout the planet. Although recognizable as Cylon Centurions they represent a model (or models) not constructed by the Colonial Cylons. They eventually rebel against the early generation humanoid Cylons, starting a nuclear war. They destroyed the humanoid Cylons, most life on the planet, and possibly themselves as well ([[No Exit]]).

==Cylon Spacecraft==
[[image:SCinside2.jpg|thumb|right|[[Kara Thrace]] cuts her way through the biomechanical muscles of the [[Cylon Raider]] in order to get in ([[You Can't Go Home Again]]).]]
:''Main article: [[Cylon Spacecraft (RDM)]]''
The current model Cylon Raider is an autonomous craft ([[Miniseries]]), apparently capable of operating at fair distance from any command vessel ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]; [[Final Cut]]). Captain [[Jackson Spencer]], encountering the newer model Cylon Raider for the first time, expresses shock that "nobody's flying these things." Lt. [[Kara Thrace]] later discovers that the Raider she [[Skirmish over the Red Moon|shoots down]] is "alive". She removes most of its organic parts before returning with it to ''Galactica''. [[Sharon Valerii]], a Cylon sleeper agent, guesses that the Raider is a Cylon in its own right, although "more of an animal, maybe, than the human models... like a pet" ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]).

[[Sharon Agathon|Another Sharon copy]] confirms that Raiders "[[Resurrection (RDM)|download]]" and reincarnate. She echoes the earlier statement about the animal-like nature of Raiders: "A raider's much like a trained animal, with the basic consciousness and survival instinct."

A [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]] is also an integrated blend of flesh and machine ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]). The ship is [[Basestar command|commanded by a group of Humanoid Cylons]], and has a living computer, the [[Hybrid]], which is essentially the basestar's brain and takes orders from humanoid models (more on ''Hybrid'' below). Hybrids do not function autonomously.<ref>In both these cases, the distinction between a "Cylon" and their own semi-sentient technology becomes increasingly blurred — interestingly, the same problem that led to the [[Cylon War]] in the first place.</ref>

== Human Models ==
:''Main article: [[Humanoid Cylons]]''
There is an organic humanoid model of Cylon that's almost completely indistinguishable from a human being. [[Final Five|Five]] of these models are actually the descendants of artificial life-forms created by humans on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] thousands of years ago. The others were created by the Five after the [[Cylon War|First Cylon War]] ([[No Exit]]).

The humanoid Cylons have become the quintessential Cylon form. They quietly and effectively infiltrated the Colonial defense forces, with humanoid models such as [[Number Six]] gaining access to secret military technology, and sleeper agents such as [[Sharon Valerii|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] being planted within the [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] itself. These sleeper agents are programmed with false memories and appear genuine. Unplanned discovery of their true nature can be extremely disturbing for these units, and their behavior is not always predictable.

Only slight chemical differences reveal human from Humanoid Cylon. Humanoid Cylons also apparently differ from humans in two significant ways.
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[[Image:Sharonspine.jpg|thumb|right|Sharon Valerii conceives a child with [[Karl Agathon]] ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]).]]

===Reproductive Difficulties===
It was determined to be impossible for two Cylons to reproduce with each other<ref>According to the [[Podcast:Deadlock|podcast for Deadlock]], they were likely able to conceive but unable to carry pregnancies to term.</ref>, and as a result the Cylons begin cross-breeding experiments with humans, which results in the pregnancy of [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|the Caprica-copy of Sharon Valerii]]. Cylon beliefs attribute this to the love between Valerii and [[Karl Agathon]]. The forceful impregnation of human women however was unsuccessful ([[The Farm]]).

[[Saul Tigh]] and [[Caprica-Six]] conceived a fully Cylon child ([[Sine Qua Non]]), but the child was lost soon after [[Ellen Tigh|Ellen's]] return. ([[Deadlock]])

The Cylon tribe inhabiting Earth did not have these difficulties, and each of the Final Five were born to Cylon parents ([[No Exit]]).

===Physiology===
[[Image:6spine-ms.jpg|thumb|left|[[Number Six]]'s spine glows during intercourse]]On two occasions, the vertebrae of human-model Cylons have been seen to emit a red glow visible through the skin during sexual intercourse ([[Miniseries]], "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"). On one occasion, the eye of one of the [[Final Five]] is seen to emit a red glow ("[[He That Believeth In Me]]").

Other elements of Cylon humanoid physiology are light-sensitive. Tissues within in their forearms function as [[Cylon data port|data links]] which can be crudely interfaced with Colonial fiber-optic networks ([[Flight of the Phoenix]]), but are primarily for accessing the Cylon optical network known as the [[datastream]] ("[[Torn]]", "[[A Measure of Salvation]]").

Synthetic compounds unique to Cylon physiology ionize when subjected to [[Wikipedia:Plutonium|plutonium]] radiation, forming the basis of Dr. [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]]'s [[Cylon detector]].

Cylon nervous systems possess [[Silica Pathways|silica pathways]]. A legacy of their evolution from mechanical Cylons, this technology remains in the humanoid models. Silica pathways are susceptible to some forms of radiation, such as the one surrounding the [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Prolonged exposure to such radiation will gradually take a physical toll on a humanoid Cylon ([[Miniseries]], "[[Bastille Day]]"), and possibly impair the resurrection process. With other forms of radiation, humanoid Cylons possess greater (but not complete) resilience against radiation poisoning than humans ([[The Passage]]).

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===Known Models===

In the Miniseries, somewhat ambiguous comments by [[Caprica-Six]] and a note left for [[William Adama]] (presumably by [[Gaius Baltar]]) indicate that there were only twelve humanoid models at the time of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]].<ref>Humanoid Cylons are constructs, archetypes of human behavior that are not and never were human, as clarified by [[Ronald D. Moore]] in an [http://www.thefandom.com/Article50.phtml interview] on "The Chase Show", hosted on the SF webcast news site [http://www.thefandom.com/TheFandom.com TheFandom.com].</ref> The final cylon, [[Ellen Tigh]], was revealed as of the episode "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]". There was once a thirteenth model, Number Seven, but that was destroyed decades ago by the Number One model.
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Image:Tighlon.jpg|[[Saul Tigh]]
Image:Ellen Final Cylon.jpg|[[Ellen Tigh]]
Image:Anders_Cylon.jpg|[[Samuel Anders]]
Image:Tory Cylon.JPG|[[Tory Foster]]
Image:Tyrol Cylon.jpg|[[Galen Tyrol]]
Image:Cavil_closeup.jpg|[[Number One]]
Image:Leoben Headshot.jpg|[[Number Two]]
Image:Number Three Headshot.jpg|[[Number Three]]
Image:Cysim.jpg|[[Number Four]]
Image:Doral.jpg|[[Number Five]]
Image:Six_closeup.jpg|[[Number Six]]
Image:Boomer_closeup.jpg|[[Number Eight]]
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===The "[[final five]]"===

[[Image:TheFinalFive.JPG|right|thumb|300px|The Final Five, as seen in visions by observers.]]
The existence or knowledge of the [[Final five|five remaining models]] appear to be something of a taboo in Cylon society. When Baltar mentions their absence to Caprica-Six he is told not to talk about them. The identities of these five models appear to be suppressed or missing from the Cylons' collective knowledge base.

D'Anna Biers, a Number Three model, believes that the five silhouetted figures she sees in a vision of Kobol's ancient [[Opera House]] while she is in the "space between life and death" prior to [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] are images of the final five.

Inside the [[Temple of Five]], D'Anna Biers manages to return to the "space between life and death" and sees the faces of the five and retains her memories of them for the first time. She apologizes to one of the five while she is in their presence. When she returns from her vision, she promptly dies before she can reveal who she saw. Biers's consciousness, along with those of all other Three models, is [[boxing|boxed]] to suppress knowledge of the five, until she is unboxed and subsequently rescued by the alliance of humans and Cylon renegades ("[[Rapture]]", "[[The Hub]]").

As [[Saul Tigh]], [[Galen Tyrol]], [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Tory Foster]] approached the [[Ionian nebula]], a strange [[The Music|event]] brings them physically together to realize that they are Cylons. [[Ellen Tigh]] was revealed as the final Cylon model in a memory of Saul Tigh's past life ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]). The Final Five are the only survivors of an entire civilization of humanoid Cylons that once existed on Earth. They are responsible for creating the other eight ([[No Exit]]).

===Hybrids===
:''Main articles: [[Hybrid]], [[First Hybrid]]''
[[Image:Hybrid.jpg|thumb|left|A Hybrid speaking "nonsense".]]

In addition to the humanoid Cylons, there is a type that is partly humanoid known as the Hybrids. Not to be confused with the Cylon/human hybrid child [[Hera Agathon]], the Hybrids aboard basestars resemble [[humanoid Cylon]]s, but are another type of Cylon similar to the autonomous bio-mechanical [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raiders]]. They are specially constructed living computers that manage the autonomic functions of the basestar. The Hybrids are so integrated into the basestar's functionality that they ''are'', for all practical purposes, the basestar. [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] claims that development of the Hybrids was abandoned after the version used on modern baseships was created ([[Razor]]).

[[Image:First Hybrid.png|thumb|right|The First Hybrid]]

The [[First Hybrid]] created from the Cylons' experimentation with human beings possesses many of the same traits that the modern Hybrids exhibit, only with a few distinct differences. The First Hybrid, although it possesses the same metaphysical perception as its descendants, is considerably more lucid and speaks in coherent, though slightly ambiguous, sentences. Like the modern Hybrids, the First Hybrid functions as the central computer of its [[Guardian basestar|basestar]], but it also appears to function as the basestar's command and control, given the absence of modern humanoid Cylons aboard. While Athena claims the First Hybrid is an evolutionary dead-end and was abandoned by the Cylons, the Hybrid itself claims that its "children" see it as a god. The First Hybrid was destroyed along with its basestar in the [[Battle of the Guardian basestar]], and it is currently unknown whether or not it was the only one of its kind.
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===Organizational Relationships===

The humanoid models, as the most evolved form of Cylon, are in charge of all other models, such as the Centurions, Raiders, and Hybrids. [[Caprica-Six]]'s statement in "[[Downloaded]]" that Cylon culture is based on unity and that celebrities such as herself are something new implies that there is no single leader <ref>Like the [[Imperious Leader]] in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]].</ref>.

Instead, each model is equal in terms of power and authority and the Cylons make critical decisions based on consensus, or failing that, majority opinion. One or two representatives from each available model gather and discuss matters in a forum-like environment, then hold a vote on what course of action to take. Each model gets one vote that appears to represent the opinion of every copy of that model. Exceptions to this occur in the episode "[[Precipice]]", when Caprica-Six disagrees with the other Sixes, and in the episode "[[Six of One]]", when [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] gives a vote opposed to that of the other Eights. The Centurions, Raiders and the [[Hybrid|baseship Hybrids]] are not permitted a vote in the decision making process ("[[Occupation]]" through "[[A Measure of Salvation]]").

One instance where a [[Number Three]] model goes against the collective will of her fellow models and ultimately imposes her will over the rest is considered so radical that every Number Three copy is [[boxing|boxed]] for disrupting the unity of the Cylon race ("[[The Eye of Jupiter]]", "[[Rapture]]").

Unlike the modern Hybrids, [[First Hybrid|the first Hybrid]] appears to exert independent control over its own [[Guardian basestar|basestar]] and [[Guardians|Cylon Centurions]]. The Hybrid claims that his "children" consider him to be a god. The exact meaning behind this statement is not yet known ([[Razor]]).

As of the [[Cylon Civil War]], the race has split into two factions with clear leaders. One was originally led by the Number Six [[Natalie]], and now by the last surviving [[Number Three]]. The other faction is led by the Number One called Cavil.

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Messengers

2009-02-28T10:47:10Z

Gordon Ecker: +Slick

[[image:Tigh_Me_Up_Tigh_Me_Down-Baltar_Six.jpg|thumb|The virtual Six and Gaius Baltar in his lab aboard ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]''.]]

'''Virtual beings'''<ref>{{bsgwiki term}}</ref> denote the curious virtual images seen by [[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Caprica-Six]].

The Season 3 episode "[[Torn]]" establishes the [[humanoid Cylon]] visualization process known as [[projection]]. In the [[Miniseries]] and Season 1, before the term "projection" was introduced, the character of [[Gaius Baltar]] has frequent visions of an image of his Cylon love interest from Caprica, now known as [[Caprica-Six]].

After her [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] from the Caprica mission, Caprica-Six herself is haunted by a virtual image of Gaius Baltar.

Neither character has revealed the presence of these images to each other or any other character as of the episode "[[Deadlock]]". Occasionally both Baltar and Caprica-Six have been viewed reacting to their virtual companions, either by talking to themselves or by physical reaction, though this has generally been discounted as general "oddness".

The personality of each image is often represented in the clothing that they wear. Virtual Six often appears in a revealing red dress, and the virtual Baltar appears in a pinstriped suit, apparently custom-tailored ([[Miniseries]], "[[Downloaded]]").

Each personality is not a copy of the original character's personality, but generally behaves as a militant version of the original. The Virtual Six espouses Cylon philosophy and [[Cylon Religion|religion]] in a zealous, unwavering manner. Likewise, the virtual Baltar often criticizes Caprica-Six when she attempts to rationalize the destruction of the [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Twelve Colonies]] or other Cylon motivations. Both personalities tend to sway its actual opposite to side with their philosophy: For virtual Baltar, the need to become more human (and, like the actual Baltar himself, selfish); for virtual Six, worship of the Cylon [[God (RDM)|God]] and distancing Baltar from any opportunity to give support to the Colonial causes.

The purpose and origins of the visions experienced by Baltar and Caprica-Six have not been disclosed in aired episodes.

==Baltar's Virtual Six==
Baltar's virtual Six first appears as he escapes the destroyed world of [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]] on [[Sharon Valerii]]'s [[Raptor]] ([[Miniseries, Night 1]]).

[[Image:brainscan.jpg|left|thumb|Baltar receives his brain scan from Dr. [[Cottle]], as his virtual Six looks on in amusement.]]
Baltar initially believes that the virtual Six is a hallucination in its first few weeks of appearances, but later believes the virtual Six's initial suggestion that she is generated from a Cylon cybernetic implant. He disproves this notion when Doctor [[Cottle]] gives him a brain scan ([[Downloaded]]).

Baltar's virtual Six is aware of events, people and places that Baltar does not appear to know consciously. She tells him of a [[Cylon transponder]] hidden in ''Galactica's'' [[CIC]], and appears to aid him in his conversion from Colonial polytheism to Cylon monotheism through guiding him in how to destroy a Cylon [[tylium]] refinery ([[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]). The source for virtual Six's data is unclear.

[[image:KobolHallu.jpg|right|thumb|Virtual Six and Baltar on Kobol.]]
Baltar's visions of Six not only have the Cylon appearing with him on ''[[Galactica]]'', but the two also envision themselves in Baltar's now-destroyed home, on the beach, and other locales. The virtual Six projection seems to be able to force Baltar to see additional items in his environment, such as the human skulls on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] as well as visions of the interior of the ancient [[Opera House]] and an image of what virtual Six believes to be a Cylon-human hybrid child. When an [[Hera Agathon|actual child]] does appear in the Fleet, the virtual Six claims it is her vision fulfilled ([[Downloaded]]).

Over time, Baltar is seen by some characters speaking to himself, which is often the case when he is speaking to Virtual Six. In several instances, the virtual Six appears to Baltar to be a physical entity, grabbing him by his clothes or body, or assisting him with objects ("[[Six Degrees of Separation]]", "[[Taking A Break From All Your Worries]]"). She has even demonstrated an ability to physically interact with Baltar. On one occasion, she pushed him into a bulkhead and grabbed him by the throat. In another example, she lifted him into a standing position after he was beaten by a Galactica marine ([[Escape Velocity]]). In both cases, this provoked reactions from other people.

The virtual Six has been present when Caprica-Six is near only twice. She is also conspicuously absent during [[Shelly Godfrey]]'s tenure on ''Galactica'' ([[Six Degrees of Separation]]). The virtual Six seems to, for the most part, vanish during the period when Caprica-Six and Baltar renew their relationship on New Caprica. When Baltar is aboard a Cylon basestar, Caprica-Six explains the projection process to him while the virtual Six hints that this process is very similar to how she and Baltar communicate and that Baltar may himself be a Cylon ([[Torn]]). Virtual Six also appears to Baltar, when he discovers Hera under Maya's dead body and disappears when the real Number Six comes near Baltar and the baby ([[Exodus, Part II]]).

Virtual Six has a [[Music of Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|musical theme]], a simple 9-note motif with a staccato xylophone and some violins, which plays behind almost all her appearances. This theme also plays without Six present in "[[Rapture]]" after [[D'Anna Biers]] collapses in Baltar's arms after her vision of the [[Final Five]], until Baltar is clubbed by [[Galen Tyrol]].

From the end of Season 2 on, the virtual Six claims more often to be an angel from [[God (RDM)|God]].

==Caprica-Six's Virtual Baltar==
[[image:LBlt.jpg|thumb|left|Turnabout is fair play: Caprica-Six, the virtual Baltar and an actual [[Number Three]]]]

When a ''virtual Gaius Baltar'' appears to Caprica-Six in "Downloaded", the notion that the actual Gaius Baltar was part of a Cylon plan to manipulate him via the virtual Six is revealed to be highly unlikely, as other Cylons are unaware of him and do not mention the plan or its effects to Caprica-Six.

The virtual Baltar's appearance and demeanor is just as much an extreme opposite of the actual Baltar as the virtual Six's behavior is to Caprica-Six.

At her resurrection, the virtual Baltar immediately tells Caprica-Six that only she can see and hear him, and not to reveal what she sees to the other Cylons present. The virtual Baltar is never asked by Caprica-Six about his origins.

The virtual Baltar confronts Caprica-Six with her guilt in the slaughter of billions of human beings, and with the logical error behind the Cylons' actions. Under the influence of the virtual Baltar, Caprica-Six speaks out against the war alongside another resurrected "[[hero of the Cylon]]", [[Sharon Valerii]]. The two forge a new [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II|quasi-benevolent path]], [[Exodus, Part II|albeit temporarily]], for the Cylon race.

The revelation in "[[Torn]]" about the Cylons' projecting abilities suggests that the virtual Baltar is generated by Caprica-Six's own projection ability. Since the actual Baltar is not confirmed as a Cylon, the origins of his virtual Six are questioned by Dr. Baltar himself during the revelation of the principles of projection.

The virtual Baltar appears irregularly in seasons 2 and 3. In "[[The Woman King]]", Caprica-Six is observed by [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Tory Foster]] as Caprica-Six speaks and kisses the virtual Baltar, who is, of course, invisible to Roslin and Foster.

While Baltar's virtual Six claims to be an angel sent from God, Six's virtual Baltar seems to be contemptuous of the Cylons' concept of God ([[Downloaded]]). He is also described by [[Ronald D. Moore|Ron Moore]] as more of a "devil" figure in Six's consciousness<ref>{{cite_rdm_podcast|episode=Downloaded|act=Three|id=|timestamp=|totalrunning=}}</ref>.

While the virtual Baltar acts mostly as a conversational foil for Six, in "[[Crossroads, Part I]]" he informs her that [[Saul Tigh]] has suffered the loss of a woman close to him, to assist Six in dealing with the interrogation by Tigh. It is uncertain how he or she obtained this information.

== Gaius Baltar's Virtual Baltar ==

After his ascension to [[Cult of Baltar|cult]] leader, Gaius Baltar encounters a well-dressed virtual version of himself after he meets [[Tory Foster]]. Baltar is initially shocked by his sudden appearance but eventually becomes amused by the idea of having himself as a conversational foil for once instead of Six. This virtual Baltar encourages him to engage in a relationship with Foster, claiming that she is "special," and guides him, after a fashion, through her covert interrogation attempt. This virtual Baltar does not elaborate on that point, but Baltar follows the virtual version's lead ([[Six of One]]).

It is unknown whether or not this virtual Baltar is the same one that Caprica-Six sees. Baltar asks if he is the virtual Six in another form, but the virtual Baltar points out that she would have little reason to disguise herself from Baltar.

As of the episode "[[Deadlock]]", Baltar has only encountered this manifestation once.

== Laura Roslin's Virtual Elosha ==
[[Laura Roslin]] converses with a being in the form of [[Elosha]] during what should be zero-time jump sequences on the way to the Resurrection Hub. ([[The Hub]]) This virtual being is unlike the others, in that not only do they interact outside the realm of others, it takes place during a time interval that should not exist. The being seems to have some knowledge of the future events, such as Roslin's death and the fact that [[William Adama]] waits for her, suggesting both reality for the being and the out-of-time conversations. Unlike Starbuck's Leoben, the experience is difficult to explain with unconscious dreaming or hallucination.

== The Final Five's Virtual Beings ==
After recovering his memories of [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] due to being shot in the head, [[Samuel Anders]] reports that the [[Final Five]] were originally warned of impending nuclear destruction of Earth two thousand years earlier by images of people no one else could see. This information allowed them to prepare their recreation of [[Resurrection (RDM)|Cylon Resurrection]] and the ship on which they escaped in advance of the disaster. The one that appeared to Anders looked like a woman, the one that appeared to [[Tory Foster]] looked like a man. [[Galen Tyrol]], much like Gaius Baltar, thought he might have a neural chip ([[No Exit]]).

== Slick ==
Kara encounters a vision of her father<ref>[[Podcast:Someone to Watch Over Me]]</ref> going by the name of Slick, she does not recognize him as her father. As she spends time with him, she recalls playing the piano with her father. She assists him in composing a song and compares him to her father. While she plays the piano with him, she recalls playing the piano with her father as a child. She recalls a certain song, and notices that the score resembles one of [[Hera]]'s drawing. As she plays the song with him, [[Saul Tigh]] and [[Tory Foster]] recognize the song as [[the music|the same song they heard at the Ionian Nebula]]. When Saul grabs her and asks her about the song, Slick vanishes ([[Someone to Watch Over Me]]).

==Notes==
*The [[virtual Leoben|virtual "Leoben"]] that appears to [[Kara Thrace]] in the episode "[[Maelstrom]]" only appears to her in a vision while the pilot is unconscious. Since this virtual Leoben does not fit the Baltar-Six analogue, Battlestar Wiki considers him separately to the above.
*[[William Adama]] sees and converses with his [[Carolanne Adama|deceased ex-wife]] each year on their anniversary as demonstrated in "[[A Day in the Life]]". While the episode where this occurs shows William and Carolanne together in places and settings (ostensibly at their home on [[Caprica (RDM)|Caprica]]), this is a dramatic representation of Adama's ordinary imagination of what Carolanne may have thought about his predicament. As such, the visualizations of Carolanne Adama are ''not'' a virtual being similar to those above.
*[[Saul Tigh]] sees [[Ellen Tigh#Saul's "Virtual Ellen"|his dead wife]] in place of [[Caprica Six]] ([[Escape Velocity]]). This could be a simple hallucination, or, as Tigh is a [[humanoid Cylon]], an example of [[projection]].
*When holding a two thousand year-old, mangled mailbox hatch from the lobby of the Tighs' apartment building, Saul sees a dying Ellen again in a vision from his and her prior incarnations on Earth. Ellen is depicted in the vision as fully aware of their future reincarnations and the cyclical nature of their existence, which she prophesises for past-Saul in the moment before they both die. ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]).
*In the fifth [[Razor Flashbacks|Razor Flashback]], while exploring the lab, Adama has a hallucination of a hand reaching out to grab him from a device similar to a [[resurrection tank|resurrection]] or [[Hybrid]] tank. However this could be a stress-induced hallucination. The same may be the case for the screaming prisoners in the lab, which could also be explained as a visualization for the audience. However, the voice Adama hears of the [[First Hybrid]] is the real voice, so this part at least is not a hallucination.
*Beginning in Season 3, Baltar's Virtual Six begins appearing less frequently, and makes only a few appearances in Season 4. A scene was filmed for "[[The Road Less Traveled]]" in which Virtual Six, stating that Baltar no longer needs her anymore, says goodbye to him and fades away; this scene was deleted (but included on the Season 4.0 DVD). Virtual Six reappeared after an absence of many episodes in "[[Deadlock]]", potentially rendering this deleted scene non-canonical.
*In the podcast for [[No Exit]], Ronald Moore refers to the Final Five's virtual beings as "the Messengers" and indicates that they are significant to the overall storyline.

== Official Statements ==
*When asked by a fan at a convention about the differences between this Baltar and the real Baltar, actor [[James Callis]] described Six’s Baltar as a man who “finally has his shit together.”<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZZHl0Ls5U&mode=related&search=|title=James Callis (Gaius Baltar) Q&A FanExpo 2k6 - Part 3|date=September 04, 2006|accessdate=January 24, 2007|last=|first=|format=YouTube video|language=English}}</ref>. ('''Warning''': Video contains some explicit language)

* Callis mentioned at the same convention that his personal theory is that Baltar's internal Six is a being from another universe or higher plane of existence who only Baltar can interact with. This may relate back to the "angel" theory <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZZHl0Ls5U&mode=related&search=|title=James Callis (Gaius Baltar) Q&A FanExpo 2k6 - Part 3|date=September 04, 2006|accessdate=January 24, 2007|last=|first=|format=YouTube video|language=English}}</ref>. ('''Warning''': Video contains some explicit language)

* Actress [[Tricia Helfer]] has said that she has long since given up on trying to figure out just what Baltar's internal Six is. <ref>{{cite_web|url=http://tv.ign.com/articles/756/756477p1.html|title=IGN Interview: Battlestar Galactica's Tricia Helfer|date=January 18, 2007|accessdate=January 24, 2007|last=|first=|format=|language=English}}</ref> She believes Caprica-Six and Baltar both having internal counterparts is related to the scene from the [[Miniseries]] where she saves Baltar from the shock wave of the nuclear bomb that destroyed [[Caprica City]].

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Islanded in a Stream of Stars

2009-02-28T10:46:37Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Overview */ brief overview based on the trailer

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== Overview ==
{{spoilli|Galactica breaks down. Boomer returns to Cavil's Cylons with Hera. Kara is tormented by the mystery of her nature.}}

== Summary ==

=== Teaser ===

=== Act 1 ===

=== Act 2 ===

=== Act 3 ===

=== Act 4 ===

== Notes ==

* The title comes from the book ''[[w:The Outermost House|The Outermost House]]'', by [[w:Henry Beston|Henry Beston]], where he chronicles his time spent living on an isolated beach in Cape Cod. In the chapter "Night on the Great Beach" he wrote, "For a moment of night we have a glimpse of ourselves and of our world ''islanded in its stream of stars''— pilgrims of mortality, voyaging between horizons across eternal seas of space and time."

== Analysis ==

== Questions ==

== Official Statements ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

== Guest Stars ==

* [[Rekha Sharma]] as [[Tory Foster]]<ref>[http://www.buddytv.com/articles/battlestar-galactica/exclusive-interview-rekha-shar-20017.aspx Exclusive Interview: Rekha Sharma of 'Battlestar Galactica' - BuddyTV]</ref>

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Dreilide Thrace

2009-02-28T09:30:57Z

Gordon Ecker: more details: the podcast says it was a vision of her father father; adding move tag now that we have a name

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[[Kara Thrace]]'s father was a pianist and composer. Kara seems to have had a closer relationship with him than with her mother. When she and [[Karl Agathon]] arrive at her former apartment in [[Delphi]] she plays a recording of one of her father's works ([[Valley of Darkness]]). Later, Kara meets Slick, a man composing a song at the piano in Joe's Bar and woks on it with him. She explains that until her father left she loved piano herself and played it with him all the time. He apparently loved piano so much that when her mother told him to chose between them and it, he chose it. She played with the man one of the songs that always made her happy and it turned out to be The Music. The man dissapeared afterwards, which, in conjunction with his resemblance to her father, implies that he was a vision of him, which is confirmed by the podcast.

==Notes==
The name 'Dreilide' is German for 'third eyelid' and refers to the inner eyelid, regarded as the gateway to the soul and realms of higher consciousness. The third eye is often associated with visions, clairvoyance, precognition, and out-of-body experiences, and people who have allegedly developed the capacity to use their third eyes are sometimes known as seers.<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye</ref>

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Deadlock

2009-02-23T08:27:49Z

Gordon Ecker: /* Questions */

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== Overview ==
[[Ellen Tigh|Ellen]] and [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]] return to the fleet. The Cylons consider leaving.

== Summary ==

=== Teaser ===

=== Act 1 ===

=== Act 2 ===

=== Act 3 ===

=== Act 4 ===

== Notes ==

== Analysis ==

== Questions ==
* Are the Cylons now flying regular joint CAPs with ''Galactica'''s vipers?
* What will be the consequences of Baltar's cult being given access to weapons?
* What will happen to Boomer?
* Why was a random Eight and Six at Anders's side urging Ellen to go to the Baseship and jump away and not Caprica Six and Athena? The same later when Ellen confronted Tigh and made Tigh choose between the baby and Galactica? Caprica Six was there that time but why wasn't Athena?
** Like Tigh, Athena would have never agreed to abandon the Fleet.
* How did the Cylons imagine they could take Anders aboard their Baseship without Starbuck's approval?
* Why has Anders' brain suddenly started showing activity again? What is his exact condition? Does he still possess his Cylon memories?
* Will Caprica seek revenge on Ellen for the death of her unborn child?
* How will the death of Liam affect Ellen and Saul's relationship? How will it affect Saul and Caprica's relationship?
* What was the actual cause of the death of Caprica's baby?
* How did Ellen and Boomer find the Fleet? Is Cavil tracking them?
* Why was Tyrol so eager to leave the Fleet?
* Is Tyrol able to identify the Eight piloting the Raptor as Boomer due to his personal experience with her, or by the previously demonstrated ability of Cylons to distinguish between copies by sight?
* What has happened to Helo? Is he still recovering from his injuries received in [[The Oath]]? Did he even survive?
** Helo survived. They would had mentioned it if he died.
* Who has been placing photographs of Cylons on the memorial wall? Other Cylons, colonials or both?

== Official Statements ==

== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
''Upon seeing Ellen Tigh emerge from the Raptor:''

:[[Brendan Costanza|Hot Dog]] (with Starbuck standing right next to him): How many dead chicks are out there?

''Tyrol examins Boomer for a moment before figuring out who she is''
:[[Galen Tyrol]] (to Boomer): Nice to see you (she smiles; to Adama) This is Boomer.
:Adama: Marines!
:Unknown Marine: Sir!
:Adama: Take this Number Eight to the brig!

'' Dr. Cottle remarking to Tory, Tyrol, a Number Six and a Number Eight gathered around Anders's bedside in vigil:''
:[[Cottle]]: Lot of visitors. Just don't anybody unplug anything!

== Guest Stars ==

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Timeline - Season 4 (RDM)

2009-02-23T08:11:16Z

Gordon Ecker: adding sections and timeframe info for the aired 4.5 episodes and The Face of the Enemy

:''For the timeline overview see [[Timeline (RDM)]]. For the rest of the series see [[Timeline - Season 1 (RDM)]], [[Timeline - Season 2 (RDM)]] and [[Timeline - Season 3 (RDM)]].''

== [[He That Believeth In Me]] ==
:''The episode continues directly from "[[Crossroads, Part II]]". More than two months have passed since Kara Thrace's believed death in "[[Maelstrom]]".''

*The Cylons inflict large damage on the civilian Fleet, but retreat after noticing that the [[Final Five]] have been activated.
*Kara Thrace returns, but is met with disbelief and distrust. Determined to lead the Colonials to Earth, she confronts Roslin with a weapon.
*A [[Cult of Baltar|cult]] has arisen around [[Gaius Baltar]].

==[[Six of One]]==
:''The episode continues directly from the previous one.''

*[[Tory Foster]] sleeps with Baltar in order to gain access to his knowledge about the Cylons and the Final Five.
*One faction of the Cylons lobotomizes the [[Raider (RDM)|Raiders]] for refusing to fight against the Final Five. In retaliation, another factions, one of them led by [[Natalie]], removes the Centurions' [[inhibitors]] who in turn kill the first faction.
*Kara Thrace is given command of the ''[[Demetrius]]'' to search for Earth.

==[[The Ties That Bind]]==
:''The first scene shows Number One [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrecting]] from his death in the previous episode. The bulk of the episode, however, takes place 21-22 days after "[[Six of One]]".''

* [[Cally Tyrol]] finds out that her husband is a Cylon and is killed by [[Tory Foster]].
* [[Lee Adama]] is making an impact in the political arena.
* The ''Demetrius'' is three weeks into its scouting mission.
* Natalie's faction is tricked by the Ones and lured into an ambush.

==[[Escape Velocity]]==
:''No definite markers exist, but the episode likely takes place soon after "[[The Ties That Bind]]", given that it opens with a memorial service for Cally Tyrol.''
* Violent clashes between Baltar's cult and other religious denominations cause a debate among the Quorum about the group's religious freedoms. They are eventually tolerated.
* [[Galen Tyrol]]'s grief over his wife impacts his job performance, causing a severe accident with a Raptor. After an argument with Admiral Adama, he is demoted.
* [[Saul Tigh]] tries to cope with being a Cylon by talking to [[Caprica Six]] and begins to see his [[Ellen Tigh|dead wife]] in her place.

==[[The Road Less Travelled]]==
:''The episode takes place 58 days into the ''Demetrius''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s mission, or 36 days after "[[The Ties That Bind]]"
*When the ''Demetrius'' is scheduled to return to ''Galactica'', it encounters a [[Heavy Raider]] with [[Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)‎|Leoben Conoy]] aboard, who proposes an alliance between the humans and his faction. Thrace decides to jump to his baseship, but her crew refuses and relieves her of command.
*On ''Galactica'', Tyrol despairs over the loss of his wife, confronts Baltar, but eventually makes up with him.

==[[Faith]]==
:''The episode continues directly from the previous one and the events take place over a timespan of 15 hours. In regards to the overall timeline, over three years have passed since the Cylon attack.''
*The standoff on the ''Demetrius'' is defused and Thrace, [[Samuel Anders|Anders]], [[Sharon Agathon|Athena]] and [[Jean Barolay|Barolay]] take Conoy to his basestar. There they meet with [[Natalie]], who takes them to the [[Hybrid]]. They eventually repair the ship's FTL drive and return to the ''Demetrius''.
*On ''Galactica'', [[Laura Roslin]] undergoes treatments against her cancer and socializes with [[Emily Kowalski‎]], another cancer patient.

==[[Guess What's Coming to Dinner?]]==
:''The episode takes place shortly after the previous one.''
*After the ''Demetrius'' returns with the Cylon rebels and their basestar, Natalie requests the Colonials' help in un[[box]]ing the Threes and offers them the chance to destroy the Cylon [[Resurrection Hub]] in return.
* Gaeta's leg has to be amputated and he deals with the loss and pain.
* Both parties plan to double cross each other. The Colonials are not going to hand over the Final Five, once uncovered, and the Cylons plan to take hostages to force them to. However, Natalie has a change of heart after speaking to the Quorum and wants to call off their preparations.
* [[Sharon Agathon]], after having another vision of the [[Opera House]] fears that Natalie will take [[Hera]] from her, and shoots Natalie after she runs into the child.
* Laura Roslin visits the Hybrid on the baseship, but when it is reactivated, it jumps the ship away.

==[[Sine Qua Non]]==
:''The episode continues nearly directly from the previous one, takes place concurrently with the next episode, and ends shortly before the end of the next episode. During an interview, [[Tom Zarek]] states that it has been 5 years since the holocaust. However, this appears to be a considerable overestimate, since - judging from several other comments by characters and the time that passed between episodes - only about three and a half years have passed since the Miniseries.''

*With Roslin gone and Adama not wanting to acknowledge [[Tom Zarek]] as president, a leadership crisis erupts within the Fleet. [[Lee Adama]] and [[Romo Lampkin]] search for a suitable candidate to become interim president. The choice eventually falls on Lee Adama himself.
*Admiral Adama admits that he can't live without Roslin, and decides to risk waiting alone in a Raptor at a rendezvous point, while the Fleet jumps away. He temporarily puts Saul Tigh in command of ''Galactica'' and the Fleet.

==[[The Hub]]==
:''The episode continues directly from "Guess What's Coming To Dinner?", takes place concurrently with "Sine Qua Non", spans two days, and ends shortly after the end of "Sine Qua Non".''
* The alliance of Cylons and humans successfully destroys the [[Resurrection Hub]]. [[Number Three|D'Anna Biers]] is unboxed and demands to be returned to the Fleet before revealing anything she knows.
*Roslin has visions of [[Elosha]] and hears [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]]'s confession about his role in the downfalls of humanity. After the mission, the basestar returns to the rendezvous point where Admiral Adama is waiting.

==[[Revelations]]==
:''The episode continues nearly directly from the previous one. When the Fleet arrives at Earth, Admiral Adama states that it had been three years (~1,095 days) since he promised to lead the them to a new home. He likely means "over three years".''

*[[D'Anna Biers]] forces [[Saul Tigh]], [[Galen Tyrol]] and [[Samuel Anders]] to reveal themselves as Cylons. The three are arrested, while [[Tory Foster]] secretly joins the Cylons.
*Kara Thrace investigates her [[Starbuck's Viper|Viper]] and discovers a signal that gives them a bearing to Earth.
*President Adama gives the Final Four a full amnesty and shares all information about Earth with the Cylons. Together they jump to the planet, but discover it be a nuclear wasteland.

==[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]==
:''The episode continues directly from the previous one.''

==[[The Face of the Enemy]]==

==[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]==

==[[The Oath]]==
:''This episode begins soon after the previous one.''

==[[Blood on the Scales]]==
:''This episode begins immediately after the previous one.''

==[[No Exit]]==
:''The main timeframe of this episode begins soon after the previous one, while the scenes with Ellen Tigh span a timeframe which begins soon after Ellen's death in [[Exodus, Part II]].''

==[[Deadlock]]==
:''This episade takes place soon after [[No Exit]], and roughly four months after [[Sine Qua Non]].''

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