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2009-04-25T13:34:48Z

DJ Doena:

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| width="49%"|'''Episode Guide''' 
[[Miniseries]] 
[[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 1 Guide|Season 1]] 
[[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 2 Guide|Season 2]] 
[[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 3 Guide|Season 3]] 
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[[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Webisodes|Webisodes]] 
[[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)|Deleted Scenes]] 
[[R&D TV|R&D TV Skits]] 
[[Video Blog|David Eick's Video Blog]]
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2009-04-25T13:33:10Z

DJ Doena:

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[[Miniseries]] 
[[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 1 Guide|Season 1]] 
[[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 2 Guide|Season 2]] 
[[Portal:Battlestar Galactica (RDM)/Episode Guide - Season 3 Guide|Season 3]] 
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Talk:Daybreak, Part II/Archive 1

2009-03-23T14:02:34Z

DJ Doena:

== Move ==
Why move this? The way I understand this, this is still episode 20, but it will be lengthened to actually be 3 episodes long. So in a away there are 21/22 episodes even, and not 19. However, [http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html This] says that the season will be 11 hours and not 12, but that doesn't mean that we need to get rid of episode 19 already. Especially given that the finale will probably air in at least 2 parts. So it makes some sense to have separate episodes guides for two airings. By production numbers this would be one episode, but split apart by airdate numbers. Maybe we should wait for some further clarification. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:It could be split up into 3 parts in reruns. I think it would be easier to start with a single article and then split as necessary after it airs. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::If Sci Fi is gonna pull a Miniseries and air this thing in two parts, we should pull a Miniseries too and have [[Miniseries, Night 1|separate]] [[Miniseries, Night 2|articles]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Which we can do after we know where the break point is. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's no reason to split the article at this time. We won't know how things will be aired until they're actually aired. All we know for now is that the finale's been extended... that's it. Creating two or three sections based on something we have absolutely very little information on is just... ill-advised. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:The proposal wasn't a split, but a merge with 419 I think (the article exists. It just isn't linked to, because it's an empty skeleton). But the result is the same. The way I understand it, 419+420 will be the finale then, with both episodes running 3 hours together (incl. ads I guess). We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, ok. Sounded like it would be a split, with at least one additional article, seeing as each article would cover an hour. Anyway, we don't have enough information to be certain; it's still really all up in the air, and they have now until doomsday to figure out how to release the thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 15:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

==Title==
''Daybreak, Part 2'' (and ''Part 3'') [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Can we PLEASE change the title of the page to Part II & Part III -- It is being sold on iTunes, Amazon, etc. and two completely different episodes and this actually screwed me up immensely because I ended up reading spoilers for Part 3 before I started watching it. Yes, this is how it aired, but it is not how it is being archived. -- [[User:Namtastic|Namtastic]] 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Analysis==
"Ronald D. Moore appears in a cameo as the man holding a National Geographic magazine in New York City. "

I think there is much more to it. Ronald D. Moore is appearing as himself reading that article because his knowledge of "Eve" influenced the series. In other words, the series is a result of the events depicted in the series. With that scene, Battlestar Galactica becomes part of Battlestar Galactica.

:This is impossibel since as of 2009 mitochondrial Eve's remains haven't been found yet, this scene is set in the future, after the series ended.
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::Checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve. First articals apearred in 2003 ;)

It's not the same thing: we've known about mitochondrial Eve since before the series started, but her actual remains have not been found, there were never any bones of her found up to this day.
It's possible that Moore knowing about Eve's existence may have influenced the show, but he has never read an NGC article about the finding of her remains, simply because those remains haven't been found and thus never made their way into an NGC article.
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Notes==

I recognised it immediately when watching the episode (and it's already on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_(Battlestar_Galactica)#Outside_references ), the "Kodiak" spacecraft from Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun can be seen among the fleet during this episode.

==(Un)answered questions)==

The following Ron Moore interview clears up some misunderstandings about the show: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html

1) Kara Thrace's father was NOT the lost cylon Daniel.

2) The Missiles Racetrack's Raptor (accidentally) fires at the cylon colony were nukes that severely damaged the colony and made it fall from its stable orbit into the singularity (black hole) so the colony has been utterly destroyed.

3) The Earth which is discovered in this episode is not the same planet that was discovered in "Revelations."
The Earth of "Revelations" was not the planet we now live on, but our Earth was named after it.

There are still a bunch of unanswered questions:

1) What is the nature of the divine power (although this was probably intentionally left unanswered.)

2) Who were the Lords of Kobol and what happened to that world?

3) How did the colonials get from Kobol to the colonies and if they were technologically advanced, how did they loose all knowledge of Kobol, save for some religious texts?

4) What happened to those who nuked the old Earth 2000 years ago, some of these victors would have survived, but they re never seen or heard from.

5) Why didn't Cavil and his cylons try to re-invent resurrection themselves as the technology wasn't that far ahead of them (it was re-invented by the final five on old-Earth in a civilization that hadn't even invented jump drives.)

6) How could the resurrection hub control all resurrection ships while there was never any mention of FTL-communication on the show and why wasn't the resurrection hub integrated into the colony rather than floating around in deep space, vulnerable and guarded by only 2 baseships.

7) Was the colony really the place where all cylons lived, was their civilization so small (and clearly no match for the colonial military before the holocaust) and are there no baseships left out there that still have cylons aboard who want to exact their revenge on humanity? They may die out like the article suggests, but there's nothing stopping them from taking Earth with them (provided they find it within their lifetime.)

8) What happened to the other rebel cylons? Was it just the 3 baseships that rebelled, and if not, where are the other 2's, 6's and 8's?

9) How did Lee get everyone to agree to give up technology (even medical)?

10) Had it not made more sense to build new cities on Earth and rebuild the advanced colonial civilization, when everyone understood how important equal treatment of cylons and humans is, instead of letting Earth's humans build their own civilization thousands of years later, humans who are likely to make the same old mistakes with artificial intelligence and repeat the cycle?

11) How come no intelligent alien life has ever been encountered by colonials or cylons in their histories, but when it finally happens these aliens are identical to humans, who somehow evolved separately from the Kobol humans?
Somehow this amazing coincidence being an "act of God" seems like a rather unsatisfactory answer.

--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
::He doesn't actually say that about Kara. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

You're right, I've edited my post.

--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 21:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:I'd still like to know the origin of Kara's pristine Viper from her resurrection or how she died going into a gas giant with her corpse resting on a planet light-years away. And what the deal is with the Centurions from "Razor" and the Hybrid they deified. And while I understand his prophesy, I'd like to know why the old Hybrid didn't want Kara to lead a new civilisation to Earth. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 02:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::Her being sent back with a new viper was supposed to be an act of the divine power. I think the Razor centurions were explained as regular mutineers, they saw the first hybrid as some kind of prophet because of the way it talked and wanted to protect it from being scrapped. Seeing as how Kara was largely responsible for the end of Cylon civilization, except the few centurions that are still left, this explains why '''CYLON''" hybrids call her the harbinger of death (it was never stated she was the harbinger of death for humanity.)
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 20:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Gully, as for question four the Thirteenth Tribe's Earth got nuked by their Centurions. From the surface, not from space. M.A.D.(Mutually Assured Destruction). The Final Five secretly built a ship and rebuilt resurrection(Which the 13th Tribe hadn't needed since first achieving reproduction on Kobol). That was how they escaped. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 04:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Alright, but being centurions the radiation wouldn't really hurt them, they could easily have created their own civilization after the dust settled (a bit like the machines in the "Terminator".)
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

From the article: “Since the notes of All Along the Watchtower lead to Earth, do they still serve a purpose on Earth?” answer: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film) yes]. -- [[User:LaloMartins|LaloMartins]] 12:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== The Angels Make Life In This Galaxy Boringly Homogenous. ==

I slept on this, but my original impression after watching Daybreak Park # 2 is that these Angels make things boring:

They create pidgins, dogs, cats, foxes, people, oranges, tuna, et cetera. I would not be surprised if the Angels dropped a big rock on the dinosaurs just so they can have a clean slate for creating rats.

Once they create people, they make the people invent pianos, worship Zeus, Yahweh, Thor, et cetera. They make the people play “All Along The Watchtower”. They see to it that the people create Cylons.

We are not descended from apes, but from # 8s — a little wordplay because 8 and ape sound similar. the mitochondrial DNA of the # 8s is so similar to that of Homo '' neanderthalensis '' that we apparently have a common ancestor, Homo '' heidelbergensis '' half a million years ago even though that is impossible.

If we explore the Galaxy, will only find humans and cylons. ¿What is the point? ¿Why bother exploring?

Arthur C. Clarke in '' 2001 '' had a similar idea of lonely aliens helping intelligent life evolve, but the beings did not care about the final form. In other words, diversity is the rule in '' 2001. ''

We still do not know the nature of these Angels other than that Starbuck seems to be one of them

I do not know how this fits into the article, but it fits into the article somehow. I figure that I should but this on the talkpages for '' Virtual Beings '' and '' Daybreak # 2. ''

----
From Act 10 section of article: "(This is in the year 1987 AD.)" How can it be 1987 when the flat panel TV clearly showed MSNBC logo at the bottom? MSNBC was created in 1996.--[[User:Steven512|Steven512]] 14:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, the robots you see in this scene were also developed after 1987 and as far as I know the remains of mitochondrial Eve have never been found.
In 1987 it was discovered that there had been a mitochondrial Eve, this was based on DNA-research among modern humans, her actual remains have not been found to this day so the scene takes place in the near future (it could even be tomorrow), not in 1987!
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 15:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hera's Mate = Boxey? ==

From the notes section

''On the second Earth Hera's mate that produced children was most likely human. Saul Tigh and the Leobens would be too old for her. While it was fairly common in ancient times for the men to be far older than their brides (particularly with royalty), for example with the female being as young as 12 and and the male being say 60 to take an extreme, Colonial mores, which are much like our own in real life, would forbid the Leobens from sexual congress with Hera when she reach the accepted reproductive age. On the other hand there were many human children about her age and slightly older in the Fleet. She could had also had children with a human child unborn at the time of the landing on Second Earth perhaps within five years to ten years of her age. It is possible that other hybrid children could had been born after the landing given that the Twos, Sixes, and Eights joined the humans. And it is possible that pure Cylon children could had been born to the age compatible Sixes, Eights, and Leobens but as noted in the series it is difficult if not impossible for a pure Cylon child to come to term making any pool of pure Cylon children that were successfully born very small. Cylon-Human mating with a human male with a Six or a Sharon is very possible with the example of Hera herself an significantly more likely than with a Cylon-Cylon birth, but it is harder than with human-human pairings making any pool of those pairing while much more likely and larger than Cylon-Cylon offspring, still quite small number compared to pure human offspring. Therefore Hera's offspring is most likely with a human. A more remote possibility is with another Cylon-human hybrid. Her producing children with a pure Cylon offspring is the least likely since pure Cylons are the least likely to exist.''

Boxey could be Hera's mate. It would make sense.

Boxey as Y-chromosomal Adam? Or would that be "Adama"? heh--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

: The chromosomal Adam live tens of thousands of years after the Mitochondrial Eve.

: [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 17:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::Walabio is right and why would it be more likely for Hera to end up with Boxey instead of with one of the other hundreds of children from the fleet?
--[[User:Gully|Gully]] 18:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::The ''Y-chromosomal Adam'' reference was to make the pun based on Boxey being Apollo's adopted son in TOS :). As for why it would make sense, it be for no other reason that it would give the RDM version of the character some (belated) importance, which he lacked through the run of the show. Why have her end up with some random kid from the fleet than have her end up with a character who had some level of development? Plus, look at it this way, the original intent according to some references on this site say that the plan was to make Boxey, Tyrol, and Sharon (Boomer) a makeshift family. Having him end up with Hera accomplishes part of that intent as he'd be related to one version of Sharon (Athena)--[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 18:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Number Three ==

Couldn't they have sent a Raptor or an FTL-capable ship to find Number Three and bring her to the New Earth with them? It would have been the humane thing to do. --[[User:ManofTheAtom|ManofTheAtom]] 15:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

: She was left on a dead-to-humans world, where the only plant life we saw were grasses or other non-edibles, with a background radiation count above the safe level beyond short exposure: even the water was contaminated. She probably died within a few weeks of being left behind. -- [[User:Davidkevin|Davidkevin]] 12:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

== "No Further Significant Revelations..."==

I think this statement in the advisory tag is premature. There's still "The Plan", as well as, in theory, the Caprica series, both of which might provide further revelations with regards to Daybreak and the series itself. Certainly The Plan, anyway. Not to mention the presumed deleted scenes that will be on the DVD and there's a rumor Daybreak will be extended for the DVD as well. There's still a chance for some issues to be resolved. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 13:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

== How did the fleet reach Earth 2 / New Earth? ==
As far as I understood it before Galactica departed for the Colony they agreed to a rendezvous location with the fleet. But when jumping away from the colony Starbuck punched in the numbers of the song and Galactica jumped for its last time. But when it reappeared over New Earth the fleet also jumped right in. How did they get the coordinates (a raptor jumping to the rendezvous location?)? But how did they get them so fast? [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 14:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Islanded in a Stream of Stars/Archive 1

2009-03-08T21:06:03Z

DJ Doena: /* Old-style Cylon-Raiders */

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==Title==
''Islanded in a Stream of Stars'' [http://verheiden.blogspot.com/2008/09/battlestar-galactica-cruise-book.html according to producer Mark Verheiden].

No idea if this is supposed to be 'Islanded' or 'Island' or 'Landed' or 'I Landed'. Definitely a weird title.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 19:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, the title comes from a poem by Henry Beston :-) That explains that then.--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 12:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Jupiter and Callisto ==

*I believe that Boomer and Hera just jumped next to Callisto with Jupiter in the background at 15 minutes.
[[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 03:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

**It is just a common Gas Giant. Real life planet search for the past 13 years for extra-Solar System worlds have revealed that the galaxy is full of Gas Giants. It is finding th Earth type planets that is hard so far with present technology. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 07:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

*** I disagree. Jupiter has distinctive cloud-bands. These are like finger-prints. Neither Ragnar nor the planet where the Rebel Basestar after the first battle of the Cylon Civil War limped looked anything like planets in our Solar System.

*** Also, the moon in the foreground looked just like Callisto Granted Callisto is much less distinct than Jupiter but the 2 of them together add weight to the argument.

*** It seems that the fleet is still near Sol. Boomer, on her way back to the 1s, 4s, and 5s with Hera did not just travel near Sol, nor just through the Solar System, but near Jupiter.

*** [[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 08:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Old-style Cylon-Raiders ==

The facility whither boomer took Hera has both old-style and new-style Cylon-Raiders.

[[User:Walabio|Walabio]] 08:02, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

: Here are some screenshots: [http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7364/vlcsnap487018.png] [http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8940/vlcsnap488285.png] [[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 21:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Are we not dividing the episode summaries in to acts? Bit late to change? ==

*For about the past two seasons the summaries were divided into Teaser, Act I, Act 2, Act 3 and Act 4 are we switching up again, because if we are switching up again it will make it inconsistent with all the episodes over the past two seasons. I also don't like it because it comes in the last three episodes. Why change now? [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 06:34, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Starbucks photo ==

The article states ""Starbuck puts a photo of herself on the memorial wall of the dead. "". Can anyone recall from (previous episodes when she returned from the dead) whether she previously tore it down? maybe she did not put it up, but was just momentarily holding it. [[User:Xlynx|xlynx]] 07:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Baltar's test ==
IMO the analysis section should mention that baltar's tests did not prove that the corpse is the original Kara. All the tests really prove are that "Sometimes a Great Notion Kara" is made of dead tissue genetically identical to "original Kara" (we've known that "Crossroads Kara" matched "original Kara" since [[He That Believeth In Me]]), and that neither "Crossroads Kara" nor "SaGN Kara" is a significant seven type Cylon (we still don't know if Baltar's tests work on final five type cylons). From a narrative perspective, it would be anticlimactic if the corpse on Earth turned out to be a hoax, however the possibility has not yet been ruled out by aired episodes. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 08:14, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:The Twelve Colonies of Kobol/Archive3

2007-09-13T21:42:03Z

DJ Doena:

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== Porn Link ==
Hi,

I just removed a link that linked to a pron site. Added was it in this [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=The_Twelve_Colonies_%28RDM%29&diff=132026&oldid=132021 edit]. Can someone conform that there was a blog entry at all or has this entire sentence to be removed?
[[User:DJ Doena|DJ Doena]] 16:42, 13 September 2007 (CDT)

== Merge proposal ==

This article, and the articles for each of the Twelve Colonies, are all very short, and I don't see any of them expanding substantially in the near future. I think it would make for a nice looking, meaty article if we merged in each of the individual colony articles with this one under first-level headings. How say you all? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 04:50, 31 August 2005 (EDT)

I know this looks weird and kind of dumb. I'm still fiddling. It's easy to revert if the whole thing ends up being too hideous to bear. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:17, 13 September 2005 (EDT)

[[image:Banner_unknown1.gif|left|75px]][[image:Banner_unknown2.gif|right|75px]]
: I like the idea and whats up now. If we knew more about each colony, it would look nicer, but until then I think this is fine. Now... What to do with these other two banners? Now, the two colonies without banners are Leo and Aquarius, the lion and the water-bearer. Both of these symbols could be a water-bearer, I guess, but I think the black and white one looks like he has whisters, there and that shape at the top looks more ear-like. That would leave the blue and red one to be the water bearer, which I think makes sense enough. Think we could drop those in with a note as to their speculative nature, or best not to? --[[User:Day|Day]] 01:27, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

::I'm leaving this one up to [[User:QuintusCinna|QuintusCinna]], our resident flag-hunter. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:32, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

:The two colonies without banners is Aquarius and whatever the colonial name is for Libra. I saw in the mini-series they mentioned a colony called "ICON" alongside of "PICON" so I'm a little weirded out. As for Leonis, that flag has been found. I did a picture search in google for the zodiac's constellation and found the flag's symbol looked exactly like what I have designated. I can't remember, but I believe the constellation for Libra looked quite similar to the black one. Since we don't yet know as of yet what is the name for the Libra colony, I have left it blank. [[User:QuintusCinna|QuintusCinna]] 01:46, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

:At least we know it isn't Ophiuchi or something. Roslin identifies Libra in the Tomb of Athena map room, although she doesn't give its modern name. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:59, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

Realizing that it's still being worked on, it looks awful right now. You can't tell which banner goes to which colony, for one thing. --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 08:30, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

Personally, I don't really like the combination of all 12 colonies together either since there is no set border and down the road we will have pictures relating to each colony. This will make it slower to download. --[[User:QuintusCinna|QuintusCinna]] 12:11, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

:The problem, in my opinion, is that there's little to do at the main article other than simply list the colonies, and the majority of the individual colonies are stub-like in length. As for images, Caprica is the only planet we've seen thus far and probably the only one we're likely to see (unless we get Scorpion in a flashback in Pegasus or something). One thing we can do, if it becomes necessary, is link to full-length articles from just underneath the first-level headings.

:As for the banners, I agree that they could be confusing but I rather like them right now. Do either of you think it coudl be re-arranged in a better manner (maybe if they didn't alternate sides? But then there'd be a lot more wasted space)? Or is it a lost cause in your opinions? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:20, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

::Yeah, you could try putting all the banners on the right. See how it looks. --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 14:11, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

:::There, that's what they look like right-aligned. Frankly, I think they look better alternating. I don't find it confusing, and the wasted space bugs me. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:36, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

::::Hate to say it, but I don't like it at all. The banners overlap with the previous colony's "box", there are no clear markers indicating where one section begins and another ends, it just looks bad. (Part of the problem is that we don't have much information about many of the colonies at this point.) --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 15:07, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

::::It'd be better if we could insert a line across the entire page, and have the colony name under that line, along with the banner on the right. Then each colony would have a neat, easily readable section. I don't know if Wiki markup is capable of that though. --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 15:10, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

:::::I still think it's a better option than thirteen articles that are completely insubstantial on their own. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:11, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

I added captions to some of the banners, and in the process deleted some of the <nowiki><div></nowiki> markup. Wikipedia recommends against using HTML ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_markup_with_HTML]), and I've been trying to learn from the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax Extended image syntax] page. I can't figure out why a new section like <nowiki>==Caprica==</nowiki> doesn't appear on the same level as its banner. --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 16:09, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

:Ah ha! The wonders of '''<nowiki> </nowiki>'''! What do you guys think of the formatting now? --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 16:28, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

::My HTML/CSS was not used lightly. That's really the one way to get the banners at the section heading level as I did. Frankly this seems like a more cumbersome version of my right-aligned attempt. I really dislike the caption boxes, too.
::I have a new idea: Rather than use the (rather long) banners, we can grab the icons from each, along with the background colors, and use them. I've created nine high-resolution versions from QuintusCinna's originals, which you can link to below:
::[http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/aerelon.png Aerelon], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/canceron.png Canceron], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/caprica.png Caprica], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/gemenon.png Gemenon], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/picon.png Picon], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/sagittaron.png Sagittaron], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/scorpion.png Scorpion], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/tauron.png Tauron], [http://home.comcast.net/~suluger/virgon.png Virgon]
::These could be scaled down to almost any size and still look nice. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:35, 14 September 2005 (EDT)
:::Without caption boxes, it's not clear what the banners are. I know it seems self-explanatory to us, but for someone who's never seen them before, it's not. I'll take a look at the icons in a bit. --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 17:03, 14 September 2005 (EDT)
::::I find repeating "This is the Banner of X" to be tedious, and the red background to be jarring. Couldn't we simply note that the banner/icon/flag/colors of the colony is provided to the right? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:06, 14 September 2005 (EDT)
:::Peter. You've saved us all. As I said earlier, I liked it when the banner appeared to be hanging from the red line under its colony's name. I share Peter's dislike for tons of white space and alternating the sides seemed to create the least of that. However, if we just had the emblem and colors from each flag, we could do it below the red line as Fang seems to like, and not have this huge, long graphic. Maybe we can then link the full banner pics and, if we get enough information that a given colony's article wouldn't be a stub, we can display it there. Does all that make sense? --[[User:Day|Day]] 17:11, 14 September 2005 (EDT)
:::::I like it with banners to right, with titling, albeit a little redundant. Not sure how to deal with the "white space" of many areas, but we're really not going to get them filled until we get more data, so that is that. I feel it's informative enough as it stands, but I'll leave the formatting arguments alone. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:52, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

== Which flag is which? ==

A close viewing of [[Colonial Day]] indicates that the flag currently labeled as [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Tauron|Tauron]] belongs to Safiya Sanne's seat - either Picon or Leonis; and that the black flag belongs to Robin Wenutu's seat (Canceron), and that VIrgon's flag is a white field with a green inner stripe and yellow outer stripe. I'm curious as to how QuintusCinna came to his conclusion that the delegates aren't seated at their apprporiate flags, since I don't know any other evidence linking particular flags to colonies. I guess Scorpion is pretty obvious, though. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:34, 14 September 2005 (EDT)
:Don't trust the banners lining up with those they represent in [[Colonial Day]]. The reason I say this is that [[Tom Zarek]] is in one area of the room and his very obvious banner for Sagitarron is completely in another area. This is the same for Virgon's banner and their representative. There are 3 different questions I carry thanks to the shows I have watched. In the mini-series we see the banners are in this order from left to right: [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Virgon|Virgon]], [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Picon|Picon]], [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Caprica|Caprica]], [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Aerelon|Aerelon]], [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Gemenon|Gemenon]], Scorpion, Aquaria(?), [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Tauron|Tauron]], Libra (?), [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Sagittaron|Sagittaron]], [[Canceron]] (?), [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)#Leonis|Leonis]]. Is this in the order that the colonies signed the unification treaty or is the order for the flags random or is it in the order they were nuked? Though I am sure the producers, directors, and such just put them up in random order, it is now a sense of fact for the show. If we were to believe they were placed up there, the banners must be up there in some order that is according to military protocol for flag bearing. In Colonial Day I add 2 more questions. We see that the banners are behind the delegates in a different order than in the mini-series. This means they were either a) put up randomly or b) have a separate purpose than those shown at the end of the mini-series (nuked, treaty order, or other). Then we see that the delegates are put in a different order than the banners behind them. The Gemenon delegate is clearly seen toward the middle and the Gemenon flag is clearly in a different area. The same questions come up for the delegates: are they randomly placed or is there reason. It's not alphabetical, and placements of delegates and banners in every society is always in some sort of traditional order. I hope that the Battlestar Galactica producers, writers, and such will be able to answer this though I suspect they won't because they have REAL lives. As for the Picon flag, the constellation looks quite similar to the picon banner and the same goes for Tauron's with Taurus. I have no doubt with those. The Libra's icon can be seen in this picture [http://www.gaitedhorses.net/Articles/HorseAstrology/AstrologySymbol.gif] 2 clockwise from Sagittarius. --[[User:QuintusCinna|QuintusCinna]] 1:12, 15 September 2005 (EDT)

The Twelve Colonies of Kobol

2007-09-13T21:39:47Z

DJ Doena:

:''This article discusses the Twelve Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]]. See [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)]] for information on the Colonies of the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]].''

[[Image:Home pt1-Kobol.jpg|left|thumb|[[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], the ancient homeworld of humanity.]]
[[Image:001.jpg|right|thumb|[[Caprica City]].]]

Approximately 2,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], the last twelve tribes of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] leave their planet<ref>According to dialogue from "[[Torn]]", "[[A Measure of Salvation]]" and "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]", the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] left Kobol some 2,000 years ''before'' the twelve tribes. The Scroll of [[Pythia]] is dated as written 3,600 years before the last exodus of Kobol, and chronicles the Thirteenth Tribe's exodus.</ref> over conflicts with their [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies#The Lords of Kobol|gods]], as well as a "sort of calamity" <ref>As noted by [[Billy Keikeya]] in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]".</ref>.

The tribes settle on 12 worlds some distance away ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]). The tribe's namesakes and icons originally corresponded to the twelve signs of the ancient tribes, although these [[wikipedia:Zodiac|names]] drifted over time<ref>Flag matches with Colonies from "Encyclopedia Galactica." [[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]. Feb./Mar. 2006: 50-55.</ref> ([[Home, Part II]]).
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The early Colonies lived (and fought) more as sovereign nations. Some (particularly Caprica) prospered, while others (such as Sagittaron and Aerelon) were often considered lessers. For peacetime labor forces as well as for wars between each other, humanity created the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. When these [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|early models]] rebelled, the Colonies unified their governments under the [[Articles of Colonization]] sometime before or during the [[Cylon War]] as a federal republic known as the '''Twelve Colonies of Kobol'''<ref>Note the difference between the name of the Original Series' counterpart, known as the [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)|the Twelve Colonies of ''Man'']].</ref>.

The official symbol of the Twelve Colonies is the [[Colonial seal]].

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==Star System==

The star system of the Twelve Colonies of Kobol has not been named <ref>The 2003 [[Video Game]] and the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]] name the home system (or galaxy) for the Twelve Colonies as [[Cyrannus]]. However, since both the Video Game and Original Series material is of a [[Battlestar Wiki:Separate continuity|separate continuity]], its name for the system is questionable for the Re-imagined Series. In an early script of the Miniseries, the Twelve Colonies were originally located on a single world - [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]. However, this was later revised to twelve separate worlds, in keeping with the Original Series concept.</ref>.

No descriptions are available of the other colonies in terms of their celestial type: Minor planet, moon, or major planet. However, in the [[Miniseries]], [[Elosha]] states that the tribes settled onto "12 worlds." While the use of "worlds" is ambiguous, the Colonies are noted as independent celestial bodies.

Although Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] and President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] mention leaving the [[Wikipedia:Planetary system|star system]], the series itself is ambiguous as to whether all colonies are located in one star system. However, Caprica, Virgon, and [[Ragnar]] (based on tactical data related by Lieutenant [[Felix Gaeta]]) <ref>As the Cylon attack begins, Commander Adama orders Gaeta to plot all space traffic "in the system, friendly or otherwise", in the [[Miniseries, Night 1|Miniseries]].</ref> are ([[Miniseries]]). In a blog entry Ronald D. Moore states that all planets are situated within one system, in keeping with the Original Series.

The Twelve Colonies had approximately 20 billion inhabitants prior to the Cylon attack ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance|The Resistance]]) <ref>An early draft Miniseries script notes a census count of 12 billion individuals. However, the aired information of Saul Tigh's approximation in ''The Resistance'' should be taken as the correct value.</ref> and maintained some minor observatories and listening posts in outlying star systems <ref>[http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/index.html#a000016 Sourced from a January 30, 2005] blog entry by [[Ronald D. Moore]] on Sci-Fi.com.</ref>. Economic activity, such as [[tylium]] mining also occurred outside of the immediate vicinity around the Colonies ([[Hero]]).

==Aerelon==

{{mainarticle|Aerelon}}

[[Image:ColonialColors7.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aerelon]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]]

Aerelon was primarily an agricultural world. It was considered to be the "food basket" of the Twelve Colonies. Despite this, Aerelon was ranked as one of the poorest members of the Colonies.

[[Gaius Baltar]] is a native of Aerelon, although he adopted the culture and mannerisms of Caprica, presumably to increase his standing in society ([[Dirty Hands]]).

:'''Note:''' ''The spelling of this colony is sometimes inconsistent in the Re-imagined Series' official cast and crew notes and episode content. The colony is spelled "Aerilon" in the episodes "[[Home, Part I]]" and "[[The Son Also Rises]]" in official Colonial documentation. Battlestar Wiki chooses to use the more consistently used spelling of "Aerelon" which mainly appears in 'behind the scenes' publications.''
 

==Aquaria==
[[Image:ColonialColors12.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Aquaria]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Aquarius (constellation)|Aquarius]]

The unnamed [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate from Aquaria voted for [[Tom Zarek]] in the vice-presidential elections ([[Colonial Day]]).
 

==Canceron==
[[Image:ColonialColors9.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Canceron]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Cancer (constellation)|Cancer]]
[[Image:Robin Wenutu.jpg|thumb|left|Wenutu on ''[[Cloud 9]]''.]]
[[Robin Wenutu]] is the Canceron Representative to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].

No other information has been given in the Re-imagined Series about this colony.

 

==Caprica==
{{mainarticle|Caprica (RDM)}}
[[Image:ColonialColors3.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Caprica]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[w:Capricornus|Capricorn]]

Caprica is a large blue-green planet and was the the center of Colonial civilization. According to [[Gaius Baltar]], Caprica was the seat of politics, culture, art, science, and learning. It was also one of the wealthier colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]) and is the planet most prominently featured in the Re-imagined Series.

Big cities on the planet were [[Caprica City]] and [[Delphi]].

6,250 people from Caprica join the [[Laura Roslin faction]] ([[Home, Part I]]). The overall Caprican survivor population, possibly significantly greater, is unknown (see analysis [[The_Fleet_(RDM)#Demographics|here]]).

 

==Gemenon==
[[Image:ColonialColors5.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Gemenon]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Gemini (constellation)|Gemini]]
[[Image:Venner.jpg|left|thumb|150px|[[Marines|Marine]] Corporal [[Venner]], a native of Gemenon.]]
Gemenon natives are called Gemenese ([[Taking a Break From All Your Worries]]). They are known for their literal interpretations of the [[Sacred Scrolls]] ([[Fragged]]). Most of the population of Gemenon was apparently very strongly opposed to the federal laws legalizing abortion. Traditional Gemenese law declares children to be the property of their parents ([[The Captain's Hand]]).

Gemenon was home to Kobol College. [[Aaron Doral]] claims to have studied public relations there. One of the last ever professional [[Pyramid (RDM)|Pyramid]] games was held on Gemenon just prior to the [[Cylon attack]] on the Colonies ([[Miniseries]]).

Gemenon was one of the poorer colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]).

Approximately 9,500 Gemenese join the [[Laura Roslin faction]], perhaps persuaded by [[Roslin]]'s play of the "religious card" ([[Home, Part I]]). Even if this is the great majority of the Fleet's Gemenese population, it still means that Gemenon represents significantly more than a twelfth of the remains of humanity. It is maybe for this reason, or Gemenese influence over religious elements of the Fleet that Roslin's election campaign gives concern to the "Gemenese religious vote".

 
===Natives===
*Representative [[Sarah Porter]], [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]]
*Corporal [[Venner]]
*[[Galen Tyrol]] ([[Humanoid Cylon|purported]])
*[[Rya Kibby]]
*[[Adrien Bauer]]
 

==Leonis==
[[Image:ColonialColors8.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Leonis]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Leo (constellation)|Leo]]

[[Safiya Sanne]] is identified as both Leonis's and [[#Picon|Picon]]'s representative on the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]].

[[Leonis Estates Sparkling Wine]] was a type of alcohol produced on this colony.

 

==Libris==
[[Image:ColonialColors11.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Libris]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Libra (constellation)|Libra]]

''Practically no information has been given yet regarding the colony corresponding to Libra. Its colonial-era name also has yet to be confirmed. According to issue 3 of the now-defunct ''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Magazine]]'', the colony's name is "Libris".''

The ''[[Space Park]]'', a passenger liner in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]], is of Libran registry (SciFi.com).

 

==Picon==
[[Image:ColonialColors2.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Picon]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Pisces (constellation)|Pisces]]
[[Image:Playa Palacios.jpg|left|thumb|150px|[[Playa Palacios]], a native of Picon.]]
Picon was the location for the [[Picon Fleet Headquarters|Colonial Fleet Headquarters]] ([[Miniseries]]). A [[Hero|flashback view]] of Admiral [[Corman|Corman's]] office, probably located at Fleet Headquarters, is among one of the rare visual glimpses of life on another colony outside of Caprica.

The colony came under heavy attack during the early stages of the Cylon attack. President [[Richard Adar]] offered a complete and unconditional surrender to the Cylons after Fleet Headquarters is destroyed; this overture was ignored ([[Miniseries]], [[List of Deleted Scenes (RDM)|deleted scene]]).

[[Ellen Tigh]] claims to have been at the airport on Picon, "on her way home" when the attack started, and that some "unknown hero" ensured she was put on the last ship to get off the planet ([[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]).

 
===Natives===
*Representative [[Safiya Sanne]], [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] (Although there is some confusion on the matter, see his article)
* [[Playa Palacios]], Veteran columnist from the ''Picon Star Tribune'' (presumed a resident)
* [[Asha Janik]], Cylon sympathizer, member of the "[[Demand Peace]]" movement
* The siblings, nephews and nieces of [[Billy Keikeya]] ([[Miniseries]])

===Publications===
*''[[Picon Star Tribune]]''

===Pyramid Team===
* [[Picon Panthers]] ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]])

 

==Sagittaron==

{{mainarticle|Sagittaron}}

[[Image:ColonialColors10.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Sagittaron]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Sagittarius (constellation)|Sagittarius]]

Sagittaron<ref>The colony's name, Sagittaron, was originally spelled as "Sagittar'''i'''on" in the [[Miniseries]], but this changed to "Sagittaron" when the regular series began.</ref> endured centuries of exploitation at the hands of the other Colonies, leading to the colony becoming one of the poorest planets. Eventually, [[Tom Zarek]] led an organized series of terrorist acts against the established government there, many years before the fall of the Colonies ([[Bastille Day]]).

The Sagittarons are traditionalists who practice an different form of religion from the other Colonies. They believe in herbal medicine and have a general distrust of the military ([[The Woman King]]).

 

==Scorpia==
[[Image:ColonialColors6.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Scorpia]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Scorpius|Scorpio]]

Scorpia is home to a [[Colonial Fleet (RDM)|Colonial Fleet]] [[Scorpian Fleet Shipyards|shipyard]], where the battlestar ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' was docked during the Cylon attack.

Scorpia native [[Eladio Puasha]] serves as its [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate.

 

==Tauron==
[[Image:ColonialColors4.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Tauron]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Taurus (constellation)|Taurus]]
[[Image:Helena Cain.jpg|left|thumb|120px|[[Helena Cain]], a native of Tauron.]]
[[Pergia Envito]], [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]] delegate from Tauron votes for [[Gaius Baltar]] in the vice-presidential elections ([[Colonial Day]]).

Tauron was reputed to be somewhat of a troublesome colony within the [[Government of the Twelve Colonies|federal system]] of the Colonies, often disobeying directives decided by the colonies and "pushing their luck with the admiralty every chance they got." As a ruse [[William Adama|Admiral Adama]] claimed the Taurons were drilling for [[tylium]] ore on a moon that was close to the [[Armistice Line]] ([[Hero]]).

Tauron was one of the wealthier colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]).
 

==Virgon==
[[Image:ColonialColors1.png|thumb|100px|right|Colors and symbol of Virgon]]
'''Ancient Name''': [[wikipedia:Virgo (constellation)|Virgo]]
[[Image:Marshall Bagot.jpg|left|thumb|150px|[[Marshall Bagot]], a native of Virgon.]]
[[Marshall Bagot]] is the Virgon Representative to the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)|Quorum of Twelve]], he nominates [[Tom Zarek]] for the vice-presidency ([[Colonial Day]]). In public ceremony, the Virgon delegate wears a light blue sash.

Soon after the Cylon attack begins, the bulk of the space-wide offensive by the Colonials begins "shaping up" over the planet. The battle ostensibly ends with the destruction of the battlestar ''[[Atlantia (RDM)|Atlantia]]'' and the death of Admiral [[Nagala]]. Other battlestars in the Virgon attack are also eliminated.

Virgon was one of the wealthier colonies ([[Dirty Hands]]).

[[Virgon Brew]] was a beer produced on the planet and exported to other Colonies ([[Maelstrom]]).
 

== See Also==
*[[Colonial anthem]]

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User:DJ Doena

2006-10-23T20:28:42Z

DJ Doena:

==My Audio Contributions==
"''By your command''" (TOS): {{audio|TOS By Your Command.mp3|listen}} 
"''By your command''" (RDM): {{audio|Mini Series By Your Command.mp3|listen}} 
"''So say we all''": {{audio|So Say We All.mp3|listen}} 
"''Action Stations''": {{audio|Condition1.mp3|listen}} 
==My Homepage ==
[http://doena-soft.de/index_en.php Doena Soft.]

User:DJ Doena

2006-10-23T20:00:35Z

DJ Doena:

"''By your command''" (TOS): {{audio|TOS By Your Command.mp3|listen}} 
"''By your command''" (RDM): {{audio|Mini Series By Your Command.mp3|listen}} 
"''So say we all''": {{audio|So Say We All.mp3|listen}} 
"''Action Stations''": {{audio|Condition1.mp3|listen}}

By your command

2006-10-23T19:58:12Z

DJ Doena:

"'''By your command'''" is arguably the most popular phrase of the "Battlestar Galactica" saga.

"''By your command''" spoken by a [[Centurion (TOS)|TOS Centurion]]: {{audio|TOS By Your Command.mp3|listen}} 
"''By your command''" spoken by a [[Cylon agent]]: {{audio|Mini Series By Your Command.mp3|listen}}

The phrase is frequently said by [[Cylons (TOS)|the robotic soldiers of the Cylon Empire]] in [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the Original Series]] in a neutral metallic voice as the affirmative response to an order from another Cylon Centurion, the [[Imperious Leader]], or other authority.

In the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]], the phrase has been said twice by copies of [[Number Six]], once to a copy of [[Sharon Valerii]] in response to finding the escaped [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] of refugee survivors of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|genocidal Cylon attack on the Colonies]] ([[Miniseries]]), and again (barely audible) during the episode "[[Colonial Day]]."

Since these [[Cylon agent|Cylon agents]] appear to run their Cylon fleet as a collective, the use of "By your command" may be less of a command acknowledgement. The use of the phrase may be more analogous to the Colonial affirmation "[[So say we all]]", particularly in light of these Cylons' practice of a [[God|monothestic religion]], complete with commandments.

==Note==

A friend of [[Ronald D. Moore|Ron D. Moore]], "Roswell" TV series writer Breen Frazier, indicated to Moore that he was surprised that the popular phrase from the Original Series was missing from the early script of the [[Miniseries]]. Moore recalled that Breen asked how could the new show be called ''Battlestar Galactica'', without the use of the phrase, "By your command" (Source: [[The Official Companion]]).

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By your command

2006-10-23T19:49:08Z

DJ Doena:

"'''By your command'''" is arguably the most popular phrase of the "Battlestar Galactica" saga.

"''By your command''" spoken by a [[Centurion (TOS)|TOS Centurion]]: {{audio|TOS_By_Your_Command.mp3‎|listen}} 
"''By your command''" spoken by a [[Cylon agent]]: {{audio|Mini_Series_By_Your_Command.mp3‎|listen}}

The phrase is frequently said by [[Cylons (TOS)|the robotic soldiers of the Cylon Empire]] in [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the Original Series]] in a neutral metallic voice as the affirmative response to an order from another Cylon Centurion, the [[Imperious Leader]], or other authority.

In the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]], the phrase has been said twice by copies of [[Number Six]], once to a copy of [[Sharon Valerii]] in response to finding the escaped [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] of refugee survivors of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|genocidal Cylon attack on the Colonies]] ([[Miniseries]]), and again (barely audible) during the episode "[[Colonial Day]]."

Since these [[Cylon agent|Cylon agents]] appear to run their Cylon fleet as a collective, the use of "By your command" may be less of a command acknowledgement. The use of the phrase may be more analogous to the Colonial affirmation "[[So say we all]]", particularly in light of these Cylons' practice of a [[God|monothestic religion]], complete with commandments.

==Note==

A friend of [[Ronald D. Moore|Ron D. Moore]], "Roswell" TV series writer Breen Frazier, indicated to Moore that he was surprised that the popular phrase from the Original Series was missing from the early script of the [[Miniseries]]. Moore recalled that Breen asked how could the new show be called ''Battlestar Galactica'', without the use of the phrase, "By your command" (Source: [[The Official Companion]]).

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Battlestar Wiki:Audio Clips

2006-10-23T19:33:34Z

DJ Doena:

{{project|shortcut=BW:CLIP BW:AC BW:SOUNDBYTE}}

This is a project covering the use of audio clips from the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series.

== Usage ==

Audio clips should be used sparingly, due to the following:

# Fair use.
#* Due to U.S. copyright laws governing fair use, each clip must have a purpose and use on Battlestar Wiki. If the clip is unused, it will be deleted within 14 days.
# Space and bandwidth.
#* Technical limits should be considered as well. While we don't want to skimp on content, we don't want to overburden our servers or bandwidth with this content either. Thus, a balance must be achived.

== Criteria ==

The following are where the audio clips work best:

* Quotes from episodes listed under the "Noteworthy Dialogue" section of the episode guide.
* Sound effects and audio pertinent to articles.
** For example, pages where audio enhances the article: [[Case Orange]] and [[Action Stations]].
* Pronunciation of unique names to help the IPA pronunication notes on certain pages. For instance, "centon", "sectar", "frak", et al.

= Formatting and Style=

== Clip Format ==

All clips should be encoded in [[w:MP3|MP3]] format and should be uploaded to the [[md:Special:Upload|Battlestar Wiki Media repository]].

When capturing clips, note the following:

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== Style Format ==

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=== Noteworthy Dialogue ===

==== Paragraph or multi-person dialogue ====

The {{tl|audio}} template should be included as part of the description of the dialogue. For instance:

:*{{audio|Pegasus - I'm here to help you.mp3|''Speaking to Gina.''}}
::'''Baltar''': The food is yours. It's not a trick. I'm not going to take it away at the last second. You know, I...um...I'm just gonna talk right now. I don't expect you to say anything. Back on Caprica, before the attack—and sometimes I forget there was a world before the attack—I knew someone…a woman, unlike any other woman I'd ever known. She was unique. Beautiful, clever, intensely sensual. When she wasn't in my bed, she was in my thoughts. She was a Cylon. And she changed my life in a very real, very fundamental way in that I have quite literally never stopped thinking about her, because I love her. To this very day, I love her. And she looks exactly like you. My name is Gaius Baltar, and I'm here to help you.

The use of {{tl|audio}} in the instance abvove is achieved by using the following code:

<pre>*{{audio|Pegasus - I'm here to help you.mp3|''Speaking to Gina.''}}
</pre>

==== One liners and single-person quotes ====

Another use, for one-line quotes:

: * '''Lt. Gaeta (refering to the ''Pegasus''' library):''' {{audio|Pegasus - got any porn in there.mp3|Got any porn in there?}}

Which is achieved using {{tl|audio}} in the following fashion:

<pre>* '''Lt. Gaeta (refering to the ''Pegasus''&#39; library):'''
{{audio|Pegasus - got any porn in there.mp3|Got any porn in there?}}
</pre>

=== In Articles ===

The {{tl|audio}} template can also be added after the line of dialogue. For instance:

:'''"This is an official Colonial Government broadcast. All ministers and officials should now go to Case Orange. Repeat: This is an official Colonial Government broadcast. All ministers and officials should now go to Case Orange."''' – {{audio|Case Orange broadcast.mp3|listen}}

The following effect is achieved by using {{tl|audio}} in the following way:

<pre>&ndash; {{audio|Case Orange broadcast.mp3|listen}}</pre>

== To-do List ==

=== Episode Guides ===

* All Noteworthy Dialogue for [[TOS]] and [[1980]].
* All Noteworthy Dialogue for the [[Miniseries]], [[Season 1 (2004-05)]], and [[Season 2 (2005-06)|Season 2.0]] (excluding "[[Pegasus (episode)]]").
* Noteworthy Dialogue from "[[The Captain's Hand]]" on.
* Noteworthy Dialogue from "[[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]" and from the aired episodes from [[Season 3 (2006-07)|Season 3]].

=== Articles ===

* Unique terminology from [[TOS]], such as [[megon]], [[sectar]], [[frack (TOS)|frack]], et al.
* Unique terminology from [[RDM|the re-imagined series]], such as [[Dradis]], [[morpha]], etc.
* Quotes from the [[Sacred Scrolls]].
* Dialogue relating to the swearing in of [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] as president, in the [[Miniseries]] and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", respectively.
* Dialogue from ceremonies, such as the [[Salt Line Ceremony]].

== Completed ==

=== Episode Guides ===

* [[Pegasus (episode)]] and [[Pegasus (Extended Version)]]
* [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]] & [[Resurrection Ship, Part II|II]]
* [[Epiphanies]]
* [[Black Market]]
* [[Scar]]

=== Articles ===

* [[Action Stations]]
* [[Case Orange]]
* [[So say we all]]
* [[By your command]]

== Contributors ==

Please place your name here, as well as describe what you wish to foucs on.

* [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]]
** Will focus first on "Season 2.5", then work on audio clips relating to the [[TOS|Original Series]].

== See also ==

* [[Battlestar Wiki:Audio Development]]

By your command

2006-10-23T19:33:14Z

DJ Doena:

"'''By your command'''" is arguably the most popular phrase of the "Battlestar Galactica" saga.

{{audio|TOS By Your Command.mp3‎|By your command}} spoken by a [[Centurion (TOS)|TOS Centurion]] 
{{audio|Mini Series By Your Command.mp3‎|By your command}} spoken by a [[Cylon agent]]

The phrase is frequently said by [[Cylons (TOS)|the robotic soldiers of the Cylon Empire]] in [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the Original Series]] in a neutral metallic voice as the affirmative response to an order from another Cylon Centurion, the [[Imperious Leader]], or other authority.

In the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|Re-imagined Series]], the phrase has been said twice by copies of [[Number Six]], once to a copy of [[Sharon Valerii]] in response to finding the escaped [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] of refugee survivors of the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies|genocidal Cylon attack on the Colonies]] ([[Miniseries]]), and again (barely audible) during the episode "[[Colonial Day]]."

Since these [[Cylon agent|Cylon agents]] appear to run their Cylon fleet as a collective, the use of "By your command" may be less of a command acknowledgement. The use of the phrase may be more analogous to the Colonial affirmation "[[So say we all]]", particularly in light of these Cylons' practice of a [[God|monothestic religion]], complete with commandments.

==Note==

A friend of [[Ronald D. Moore|Ron D. Moore]], "Roswell" TV series writer Breen Frazier, indicated to Moore that he was surprised that the popular phrase from the Original Series was missing from the early script of the [[Miniseries]]. Moore recalled that Breen asked how could the new show be called ''Battlestar Galactica'', without the use of the phrase, "By your command" (Source: [[The Official Companion]]).

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Cylons]]
[[Category:Cylons (TOS)]]
[[Category:RDM]]
[[Category:TOS]]
[[Category:Figures of Speech]]

Battlestar Wiki:Audio Clips

2006-10-23T18:42:10Z

DJ Doena: /* Articles */

{{project|shortcut=BW:CLIP BW:AC BW:SOUNDBYTE}}

This is a project covering the use of audio clips from the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series.

== Usage ==

Audio clips should be used sparingly, due to the following:

# Fair use.
#* Due to U.S. copyright laws governing fair use, each clip must have a purpose and use on Battlestar Wiki. If the clip is unused, it will be deleted within 14 days.
# Space and bandwidth.
#* Technical limits should be considered as well. While we don't want to skimp on content, we don't want to overburden our servers or bandwidth with this content either. Thus, a balance must be achived.

== Criteria ==

The following are where the audio clips work best:

* Quotes from episodes listed under the "Noteworthy Dialogue" section of the episode guide.
* Sound effects and audio pertinent to articles.
** For example, pages where audio enhances the article: [[Case Orange]] and [[Action Stations]].
* Pronunciation of unique names to help the IPA pronunication notes on certain pages. For instance, "centon", "sectar", "frak", et al.

= Formatting and Style=

== Clip Format ==

All clips should be encoded in [[w:MP3|MP3]] format and should be uploaded to the [[md:Special:Upload|Battlestar Wiki Media repository]].

When capturing clips, note the following:

* The series, episode and season of said episode.
* The duration of the clip.
* Approximate time in the episode where the dialogue or audio in question starts and ends.
** When noting approximate times, use the tilde (~) character prior to the time notation. Time notation should be in HH:MM:SS.FF.

== Style Format ==

When adding a clip to a page, use {{tl|audio}}. For style and consistency, please refer to the following guidelines laid out below.

=== Noteworthy Dialogue ===

==== Paragraph or multi-person dialogue ====

The {{tl|audio}} template should be included as part of the description of the dialogue. For instance:

:*{{audio|Pegasus - I'm here to help you.mp3|''Speaking to Gina.''}}
::'''Baltar''': The food is yours. It's not a trick. I'm not going to take it away at the last second. You know, I...um...I'm just gonna talk right now. I don't expect you to say anything. Back on Caprica, before the attack—and sometimes I forget there was a world before the attack—I knew someone…a woman, unlike any other woman I'd ever known. She was unique. Beautiful, clever, intensely sensual. When she wasn't in my bed, she was in my thoughts. She was a Cylon. And she changed my life in a very real, very fundamental way in that I have quite literally never stopped thinking about her, because I love her. To this very day, I love her. And she looks exactly like you. My name is Gaius Baltar, and I'm here to help you.

The use of {{tl|audio}} in the instance abvove is achieved by using the following code:

<pre>*{{audio|Pegasus - I'm here to help you.mp3|''Speaking to Gina.''}}
</pre>

==== One liners and single-person quotes ====

Another use, for one-line quotes:

: * '''Lt. Gaeta (refering to the ''Pegasus''' library):''' {{audio|Pegasus - got any porn in there.mp3|Got any porn in there?}}

Which is achieved using {{tl|audio}} in the following fashion:

<pre>* '''Lt. Gaeta (refering to the ''Pegasus''&#39; library):'''
{{audio|Pegasus - got any porn in there.mp3|Got any porn in there?}}
</pre>

=== In Articles ===

The {{tl|audio}} template can also be added after the line of dialogue. For instance:

:'''"This is an official Colonial Government broadcast. All ministers and officials should now go to Case Orange. Repeat: This is an official Colonial Government broadcast. All ministers and officials should now go to Case Orange."''' – {{audio|Case Orange broadcast.mp3|listen}}

The following effect is achieved by using {{tl|audio}} in the following way:

<pre>&ndash; {{audio|Case Orange broadcast.mp3|listen}}</pre>

== To-do List ==

=== Episode Guides ===

* All Noteworthy Dialogue for [[TOS]] and [[1980]].
* All Noteworthy Dialogue for the [[Miniseries]], [[Season 1 (2004-05)]], and [[Season 2 (2005-06)|Season 2.0]] (excluding "[[Pegasus (episode)]]").
* Noteworthy Dialogue from "[[The Captain's Hand]]" on.
* Noteworthy Dialogue from "[[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance]]" and from the aired episodes from [[Season 3 (2006-07)|Season 3]].

=== Articles ===

* Unique terminology from [[TOS]], such as [[megon]], [[sectar]], [[frack (TOS)|frack]], et al.
* Unique terminology from [[RDM|the re-imagined series]], such as [[Dradis]], [[morpha]], etc.
* Quotes from the [[Sacred Scrolls]].
* Dialogue relating to the swearing in of [[Laura Roslin]] and [[Gaius Baltar]] as president, in the [[Miniseries]] and "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]", respectively.
* Dialogue from ceremonies, such as the [[Salt Line Ceremony]].
* [[By your command]]. Preferrably from a Cylon Centurion in TOS and Sharon's usage of it on [[Ragnar Anchorage]] at the end of the Miniseries.

== Completed ==

=== Episode Guides ===

* [[Pegasus (episode)]] and [[Pegasus (Extended Version)]]
* [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]] & [[Resurrection Ship, Part II|II]]
* [[Epiphanies]]
* [[Black Market]]
* [[Scar]]

=== Articles ===

* [[Action Stations]]
* [[Case Orange]]

== Contributors ==

Please place your name here, as well as describe what you wish to foucs on.

* [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]]
** Will focus first on "Season 2.5", then work on audio clips relating to the [[TOS|Original Series]].

== See also ==

* [[Battlestar Wiki:Audio Development]]

So say we all

2006-10-22T18:19:21Z

DJ Doena:

:''See here for the book entitled [[So Say We All: An Unauthorized Collection of Thoughts and Opinions on Battlestar Galactica]] by [[Richard Hatch]]

The phrase "'''So say we all'''" is analogous to the [[Wikipedia:Christian|Christian]] "[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/amen amen]" (which itself means "so be it" or "so let it be").

{{audio|So_Say_We_All.mp3|listen}}

"So say we all" is said at the closing of [[Wikipedia:prayers|prayers]], akin to "amen" ([[Miniseries]]).

However, the word "amen" is still attested in the Colonial language ([[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]) and is used to end prayers in some circumstances ([[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]).

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Colonial]]
[[Category:Colonial Religion]]
[[Category:Colonial Religion (RDM)]]
[[Category:Figures of Speech]]
[[Category:RDM]]