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<div>{{Episode Data|<br />
Image = [[Image:Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I.jpg|300px]]<br />
| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 19<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br> [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
| Writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]]<br />
| Story= <br />
| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
| Production=<br />
| Rating=<br />
| US Airdate=March 3, 2006<br />
| UK Airdate=<br />
| DVD=<br />
| Population= 49,579<br />
| Prev= [[Downloaded]]<br />
| Next= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
''As the presidential election looms just weeks away, the accidental discovery of a habitable planet sparks debate in the Fleet: Colonize? Or keep seeking Earth? Meanwhile, Starbuck leads a rescue mission of Raptors back to Caprica to save Anders and his resistance''.<br />
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== Summary == <br />
*[[William Adama|Adama]] has finally given [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] the go-ahead to plan a rescue mission to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Caprica]]. On [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']], she lays out their plan: they will use ''all'' of their remaining [[Raptor|Raptors]] — 20 in all — and use the navigation computer/organ from one of the captured [[Heavy Raider]]s to calculate the Jumps back to Caprica. Using this, they can make it back to Caprica in a series of 10 Jumps. They will go undetected when they reach Caprica by making a risky jump to just a few klicks above the surface, within the atmosphere itself, below [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[DRADIS]]. Their biggest obstacle to doing this was actually interfacing with the Heavy Raider's navigation "computer", but now they will take [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|''Caprica''-Sharon]] along in Starbuck's Raptor with it; Sharon will directly interface with the computer (by inserting a fiber-optic cable into her arm, like she did in "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]").<br />
*The presidential election is two weeks away, and [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is ahead in the polls. The only real arguments that [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] has against her that give him any ground are when he accuses her of pandering to the religious fundamentalists (i.e. her recent policy switch on abortion) and guiding the Fleet based on the scriptures alone. Conferring with his campaign manager [[Tom Zarek]] in his lab, Baltar realizes he'll need more than this to turn the fleet againt Roslin. Meanwhile, Roslin is doing a little rehearsal ritual for the presidential debate with Adama in his quarters.<br />
*On the hangar deck, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] is sleeping on the floor and twitching convulsively, having a nightmare. [[Cally]] searches around the deck to find him, and is confused by the sight when she finds him. Cally tried to wake Tyrol up, but snapping right out of his nightmare he attacks Cally, punching her in the face until she is a bloody pulp and unconscious. Realizing where he is and what's going on, Tyrol is horrified, and carries Cally in his arms to sickbay. <br />
*[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], now commander of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', has conflicting feelings about Starbuck's mission to rescue Anders, but wishes her good luck in finding him.<br />
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and ''Caprica''-Sharon travel in Starbuck's Raptor. Sharon is still deeply depressed about her daughter [[Hera]]'s seeming death, and has been shutting herself out. Helo tells her that he won't let her do that and won't give up on her. Sharon tells him that she has the feeling that something bad will happen in the future; not on the mission to Caprica, but something else. <br />
*On the very first jump out of the series of ten, [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]'s Raptor jumps to the wrong set of coordinates. Starbuck's orders were to keep going ahead until they lose 3 Raptors, so they go on ahead, while Racetrack prepares to follow her orders to return to [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] if separated. Her Raptor jumped into the middle of a gas cloud with a lot of interference, and upon clearing it, a new planet is found. Scanners indicate that it is a human-habitable planet. She returns to ''Galactica'' with news of the discovery.<br />
*The crew goes over the scans from the planet; it can sustain human life and subsequent scouting shows that in contains animal and vegetative life; they could indeed settle here. However, it is a cold world and somewhat harsh; only a temperate band around the equator covering about 20% of the surface would be habitable. After some prodding from [[Six]], Baltar and Zarek realize that they can use this as their wedge issue to turn the people against Roslin: offer them permament colonization on this planet.<br />
*[[Tory Foster|Tory]] goes over new poll numbers with Roslin on [[Colonial One]]: Baltar has been gaining ground with his new offer to stop running from the Cylons and stay here. The planet is hidden by interference from the gas clouds, and many people want to just stop their constant chase in the refugee fleet. Roslin points out that if the Colonials could find the planet, the Cylons could just as easily. Also, life on the planet would be harsh. Tory points out that Baltar is pandering to the people's hopes, giving them false ones that they greatly desire, while Roslin is pointing out justifiable fears that they simply don't want to hear; people will vote their hopes.<br />
*Shocked by his attack on Cally, Chief Tyrol has asked for religious counselling, and meets with a priest named [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]. Tyrol explains that it is because he doesn't believe that psychoanalysis works, but is himself a very [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|religious]] man. Cavil is somewhat loose and sarcastic in his counseling, leaving Tyrol a little pertubed and confused. Cavil tells Tryol that he must look for the problem in himself and questions Tyrol, and when Tyrol denies that he has been having disturbing dreams, Cavil can see through it, so Tyrol relents.<br />
*For weeks, Tyrol has been having the recurring dream that he walks onto the upper level of the hangar deck, climbs over the railing and kills himself by jumping to his death. Cavil says it is because Tyrol has a subconscious desire to kill himself. Tyrol explains that he has had the gnawing worry since [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]] died that he might himself be a [[Cylon agent|Cylon]]. ''Galactica''-Sharon never really knew she was a Cylon, even up to the point that she died, but reported strange fears that something bad was going to happen and she had to stop herself: how would Tyrol, or anyone else, really ''know'' if they were a Cylon sleeper agent or not? Tyrol is frightened by the prospect.<br />
*Cavil assured Tyrol that he is not a Cylon, sarcastically quipping that he knows because he is a Cylon himself, and hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings. Tyrol feels ashamed to go back to the hangar deck crew after the accident, but Cavil assures him that they're the only family he has left, and they love him. Cally most of all.<br />
*At the final presidential debate, Baltar's charisma and hopes of finally giving up their run from the Cylons starts to pull him ahead in the polls, and Roslin's warnings that this planet is not safe and determination to keep searching for Earth do not gain wide support. Baltar apparently wins the final debate. Roslin tells him to go frak himself.<br />
*The Raptors rescuse mission makes the final jump to Caprica. [[Raptor 612]] is lost because it jumps right into the middle of a mountain. The remaining Raptors continue on, then Starbuck, Helo, Sharon and the marines continue on foot.<br />
*One klick away from the resistance's base camp, they see movement, and find [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and his whole group. Starbuck is overjoyed to see him, but Anders warns that the Cylons are right behind them; the resistance's base was ambushed that morning, and half of Anders' men are dead. <br />
*The [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]] and [[Resistance (movement)|resistance]] members start coming under Cylon artillery fire. After running briefly, they reach a point where the arc of the artillery shells is right above them, and cannot hit them. However, the artillery's killzone is now between them and retreat back to the Raptors. To be continued...<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
*Did [[Raptor 612]] Jump "into" the mountain by crashing into it, or did they jump ''inside'' of it?<br />
**RDM confirms in the podcast that by "jumped into the mountain" it doesn't mean "they jumped close to it and thus crashed", it means, exactly like a Star Trek transporter accident, that they materialized from the Jump into solid rock, "half-phased".<br />
*If Raptor 612 was destroyed by jumping into a mountain, how was their transponder still operational?<br />
**Perhaps that part of the Raptor was in an air pocket in the rock, and thus not phased into it. RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.<br />
*Is the previous distance limit for Colonial [[FTL]] jumps on account of something like mathematical calculations? Have any of the other Raptors, besides the lead Raptor, been modified, or do they just receive coordinates from the one Raptor with Caprica-Boomer and the Cylon device?<br />
**No, or at least, not entirely. Based on Starbuck's jump back to Caprica in a Cylon Raider and other comments made in season 1, the Cylon FTL drive is far more capable to begin with. Colonial navigation systems would not be designed to take advantage of a markedly superior FTL drive because there would have been no need. Even by using the Cylon navigation computer, with its much better calculations, they needed ten jumps to return to Caprica.<br />
***The dialog after Racetrack's Raptor gets waylaid hints at a firmware error. This hints at the possibility that all the Raptors were upgraded to take advantage of the “better” FTL jump calculations from the salvaged Cylon organ/computer. Previously, Starbuck jumped back to Caprica in her converted Raider in one jump, where the Raptors need to take 10 jumps. However, we do not know of the fleet's current position compared to where it was during the events of "[[Kobol%27s_Last_Gleaming%2C_Part_II]]". Therefore it is not possible to determine, assuming the best possible FTL jump calculations, whether Cylon or human ships can jump further.<br />
*Does the fleet have the resources to sustain long term settlements on the newly found planet?<br />
**Shelter could be taken care of by canabalizing the ships of the fleet for building materials. But the question of how many homes can be made for how many of the 49,000+ survivors simply by recycling the materials availible still remains. Even if ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' themselves were recycled, would there be enough materials, or would the Battlestars still be necessary for orbital defence?<br />
**The planet itself may have natural resources—in "[[Scar]]", a mining ship collected metals to build new Vipers, so mining the planet itself may be possible. In this case it would be unnecessary to cannibalize the fleet.<br />
*Zarek says the people have been cooped up in metal boxes since the attack. How literally does he mean this—for instance, are people living inside converted cargo holds as they were in the original series?<br />
**Judging from RDM's podcast, he just meant being stuck inside of cramped ships in general, i.e. even the ''Galactica'' crew (who have dedicated crew quarters).<br />
*How was the Raptor able to jump back to the fleet if their FTL navigation computer was not working properly?<br />
**Racetrack's navigator says she gave him the coordinates, so it is possible that she relayed them incorrectly rather than a malfunction in the computer. Alternatively, they could have tracked down any fault and repaired it. In any case, the coordinates for the Raptor's original jump point would probably still be in the system.<br />
*What about the Cylons hiding within the fleet? With the possible settlement of the planet being openly debated can the Cylon infiltrators not contact the Cylon fleet and inform them of the Colonials intentions?<br />
**Perhaps the interference around the planet is blocking long range communications?<br />
**Caprica-Sharon implies that there are Cylons amongst the fleet by telling Adama she would not identify them if asked.<br />
*Laura states that Baltar does not have a key issue besides the "religious angle." What about the abortion issue from "[[The Captain's Hand]]"?<br />
**One of the major factors in Roslin's decision to ban abortion was that it would court the vote of the Gemenese religious fundamentalists.<br />
*When exactly did the Raptors leave for Caprica? If the episode lasts about two weeks, did it take that long to get to Caprica?<br />
**From the dialog it appears that the Raptors can make a jump within 10 minuites, so the entire trip back likely took less than two hours.<br />
***It sounded like they were going to leave at least a week, maybe more, before the elections (since Six said the elections were two weeks away). And according to the timelines, it took them 10 days to make the trip. Why would it take that long?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Timeline:<br />
**According to [[Six]], on the night of the first debate the election is still "two weeks away".<br />
**At the beginning of the first debate, [[James McManus]] states Baltar declared his bid for presidency a month ago. This took place at the end of "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months", putting this episode not long after "[[Downloaded]]" around Day 270.<br />
**At the conclusion of the second debate, the polls will open in three days.<br />
*[[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]] is apparently assigned to ''Pegasus'' at present, since Dualla refers to her mission as the "Pegasus survey team".<br />
**She could have been flying a ''Pegasus'' Raptor. <br />
*[[Lee Adama]] is now wearing a wristwatch, perhaps [[Barry Garner]]'s from "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
*It is safe to emerge from a hyperspace jump inside a planetary atmosphere at 2km, but not within solid rock. For comparative purposes, the density of air at 2km in an earth-like atmosphere is about 1 kg/m<sup>3</sup>, while the density of silica rock is about 2,600 kg/m<sup>3</sup>.<br />
*When Tyrol's counseling with Cavil is coming to an end, Cavil notes to Tyrol that Cally "especially" loves him. Tyrol is apparently oblivious to this obvious fact up to that point.<br />
*''BattlestarWiki'' has been trying for some time to reconcile on the [[Timeline (RDM)|Timeline]] the apparent jump from 3 months to 6 months that occured at the beginning of Season 2.5, a part of which was that back in "[[Bastille Day]]" it was stated on screen that the presidential elections were due in '''seven''' months. However, over 7 months passed by the end of "[[Scar]]", and there wasn't even talk of the elections until "[[The Captain's Hand]]". In the podcast for this episode, Ron Moore appears to reveal that he has simply forgotten this point. When he refers to the fact that "elections were promised back in "Bastille Day"", Moore says that he remembers that the line in "Bastille Day" was '''nine''' months, not seven. This is more than a one-episode goof, becuase one month after "Bastille Day" in "[[Colonial Day]]", it was stated that the elections were six months away. In the podcast it seems that Moore is truly and simply mistaken, and there is no explanation for the descrepancy betwen the "seven months after the attack" figures given in "Bastille Day" and "Colonial Day", and the new "nine months after the attack" figure at the end of season 2.5. It is simply a mistake.<br />
*In this episode they refer to "the captured Heavy Raider", singular. This would imply that only the one Starbuck brought back from Caprica in "[[Home, Part I]]" was still functional at all, and the one that crashed into ''Galactica'' in "[[Scattered]]" was damaged beyond salvage or repair.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The re-cap for this episode includes scenes not actually shown in previous episodes—for instance, Starbuck demanding to the dying Roslin circa "[[Epiphanies]]" that they go back and rescue the Caprica resistance.<br />
*When Baltar sarcastically quips that Zarek (and Six) expect him to just sit around and wait for "The Hand of God" to deliver them something they can use to their advantage against Roslin, he is of course referencing the previous episode titled "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Ironically, Baltar considers himself the hand of God in that episode. Further, a "chance serendipitous event" (namely the discovery of an inhabitable planet) does deliver them something they can use against Roslin.<br />
*Likewise, when Apollo wishes Starbuck "good hunting", there's a tone of concern, and he seems to pause before saying it, as if Apollo meant to say something else but changed his mind. This may be a reference to "[[33]]", when Starbuck tells Apollo to say "good hunting" instead of "be careful out there".<br />
*This episode has many parallels to "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]": the discovery of an inhabitable planet, Gaeta plotting a Raptor jump dangerously close to a planet surface, Starbuck's use of captured Cylon technology to return to Caprica, the intercutting of several plot threads in the teaser, a character contemplating suicide out of fear of being a Cylon, and difficulties between Helo and Sharon. In addition, Tyrol's assault of Cally is something of a parallel to Helo shooting Sharon in "Kobol's Last Gleaming"—in both cases, a man driven to rage physically and emotionally wounds a woman who loves him.<br />
*When Lt. Gaeta takes his shirt off in the head, he can be seen to still be sporting the tiger tatoo that we first saw in "[[Final Cut]]".<br />
*The combined Colonial fleet had 20 Raptors in this episode, of which 1 was destroyed before the end. Previously, ''Galactica'' was confirmed to have at least 5 left ([[The Farm]]), with the suggestion that there may be as many as 8 ([[Resistance]]). Doubtlessly, ''Pegasus'' brought at least an equal number of Raptors with it when it joined the Fleet, but 20 is still a high number for this. Perhaps a disproportionately large number of Raptors escaped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] during the [[Miniseries]]. Or perhaps like in real life with American Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers that carry a larger number of fighter aircraft compared to older Forrestal class carriers, the Pegasus, being a larger and more modern Battlestar than Galactica, it has the capability to carry a larger complement of Raptors. Unlike Vipers, Raptors do have FTL drives. We actually saw Boomer and Helo escaping the destruction of their Viper squadron, because Raptors do not engage in frontline combat, and because they have an extenstive ECM suite which Helo was trying to jam the Cylon virus signal with. Indeed, [[Crashdown]] was a Raptor ECO, but Boomer stated that he was not from ''Galactica'', but a refugee "from Triton" (either a battlestar or a planet). <br />
**Also, more Raptors could have been built with extra materials after the Viper squadrons were manufactured ([[Scar]]). <br />
*The jump error that landed the Raptor in the nebula was attributed to a "firmware error" by the crew. This may be an indication that there was firmware upgrade to deal with the increased FTL jump distances provided by the Cylon computer.<br />
*When Cavil is consoling Tyrol's fears that he might unknowingly be a Cylon sleeper agent, just like Boomer was, Tyrol asks him how he can know for sure. Cavil sarcastically answers that it's because maybe he's a Cylon, and he hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings: Number Six also sarcastically remarked to Baltar in the Miniseries that [[Aaron Doral]] could not be a Cylon, because she hadn't "seen him at any of the good Cylon parties"...but of course, Doral actually ''was'' a Cylon, implying that Cavil is truly more than he seems.<br />
*Tory actually paraphrases the title of this episode aloud, saying that the new planet offers people in the Fleet the hope that they can "lay down their burdens" and stop running.<br />
*During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, before the Teaser segment a "Parental Discretion Is Advised" black and white message was inserted. At the end of the Teaser, Tyrol beats Cally to a bloody pulp.<br />
*Lee Adama is now wearing a new uniform as Commander of ''Pegasus'': it is a Commander's uniform, denoted by the new red trim (with gold inner trim), and it has a white "''Pegasus'' BSG-62" patch, replacing his old gold "''Galactica'' BSG-75" patch.<br />
*Dualla's photo of Adama is the left half of a group shot with Kara Thrace and his brother Zak Adama. The original belongs to Thrace, and she has kept it in her locker on ''Galactica'' since the miniseries.<br />
*Dualla refers to "rivers of milk and honey" on the newly discovered planet. The phrase "land of milk and honey" is a common epithet for the promised land in the Torah, appearing in Exodus 3:8, 3:17, 13:5, 33:3, Leviticus 20:24, Number 13:27, 14:8, 16:13-14, and Deuteronomy 6:3.<br />
*Commander Lee Adama is seen eating noodles with chopsticks in his quarters, just like his father in "[[33]]", etc. <br />
*In the podcast, RDM states that originally instead of Starbuck, Helo, and Sharon leading the other Raptors in another Raptor, they would have been flying in the captured Heavy Raider itself. However, the 2 part season finale went overbudget and cuts had to be made, and the cost of building the Heavy Raider interior was deemed prohibitively expensive. Thus, they bring the Heavy Raider computer/organ with them in a normal Raptor. Moore said he believed that fans "wouldn't miss" an actual appearance by the Heavy Raider.<br />
*Col. [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] appears in this epsiode twice but doesn't speak a single line.<br />
*This is the first time since the [[Mini Series]] that Helo is seen fulfilling his duties as an [[ECO]].<br />
*Apollo quips that if they find a habitable planet, he'll build the pilots a bar on it. Actor Jamie Bamber has said in interviews that part of Apollo's backstory is that he didn't know what he was going to do with his life; he's in the Colonial Fleet reserves, not a full-career commitment, etc. He said that right before the attack, Apollo was supposed to be considering leaving the service and just openning up a bar somewhere.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Chief Tyrol is worried that like'' Galactica''-Sharon, he could just as well be another Cylon sleeper agent:''<br />
:'''Chief Tyrol:''' How do you know I'm human?<br />
:'''Brother Cavil:''' Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.<br />
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*'''Brother Cavil:''' Do you know how useless prayer is? Chanting, and singing, and mucking about with old half-remembered lines of bad poetry? And you know what it gets you? Exactly nothing.<br />
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*'''Gaius Baltar:''' I'm not sure if you're aware, [[Tom Zarek|Tom]], but the mob isn't usually in the habit of electing ungodly apostates who denegrate people of faith.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*''In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]) said:'' "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aaron+Douglas Aaron Douglas] as CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne] as Specialist [[Cally]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Leah+Cairns Leah Cairns] [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Colin Lawrence as "Skulls" McCall<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
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[[Category:Episodes written by Ronald D. Moore]]</div>Cynthiahttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_(RDM)/Archive5&diff=37386Talk:Timeline (RDM)/Archive52006-03-11T20:45:11Z<p>Cynthia: /* Untangling Season 2 */</p>
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<div>Only twelve days between Caprica Boomer's conception and morning sickness? That put's it at the fourth week, which is pretty much before she notices she is late. Sounds like a possible plot hole. Perhaps the caprica segments were not at the same time as the main fleet episodes or Cylon physilology makes them super sensitive to morning sickness. --[[User:Shemnon|Shemnon]] 18:35, 28 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:In fact, the times used here are taken from the captions introducing the Caprica sections in each episode, so a discrepancy is not possible. I too find the interval implausibly short, but that's just how it is, I guess. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:18, 29 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:Roslin might not live to see Earth; although I don't have a recording of the episode, I thought she just said that she would "lead" them to Earth before her death. And since Roslin was responsible for finding the path to Earth (the starmaps in the Tomb of Athena) it might be argued that she's already 'led' them on the right path to Earth...[[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 17:56, 27 August 2005 (EDT)<br />
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Re: Home, Part II: I realize that it's been difficult to firmly establish dates during this season, and anticipate that it will only get worse now that the main Kobol's Last Gleaming – Home arc is complete and the story resumes a more episodic feel. As a result, it would be helpful to justify any timeline estimates on the relevant episode's Notes section, as I have done for [[Resistance]] and [[The Farm]]. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:13, 27 August 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Saul and Bill vs. The ''Evil'' Cylons ==<br />
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So wait... The Cylon War started when William Adama was, roughly, ten and Saul Tigh was being born? It then went on for about 10 years, thus ending shortly after Adama would have been able to be in the military (assuming both that he wouldn't lie about his age to get in and that the Colonial Fleet has similar age-restrictions to the US Army--both pure speculation) and when Tigh was 10ish. This is my understanding from reading the time-line. I've frankly not paid much attention to when they mention these things on-screen. However, if this is true, then how did the ten-year-old Tigh learn about Cylon boarding party tactics after the Armistice? I have the (perhaps mistaken) impression that both Tigh and Adama are veterans of the Cylon War, but this timeline doesn't seem to allow for that. What's going on here? Am I daft? This is entirely possible. --[[User:Day|Day]] 04:03, 10 September 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Untangling Season 2 ==<br />
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After their meticulous efforts at keeping track of the timeline during the first season, [[TPTB]] have apparently started slacking off this season. A clear timeline is an important resource, however, so let's start untangling things.<br />
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*'''Scattered''', '''Valley of Darkness''' and '''Fragged''' all clearly take place within the same 24-36 hours, on Day 51.<br />
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*'''Resistance''' takes place over two days, and begins on day 53 ''at the earliest''. Apollo asks Dualla how his father is doing "today", implying that it is at least the second time he has done so. His first chance would have been the morning of Day 52, putting the earliest possible date of this episode at Day 53.<br />
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:*Begins: Day 53<br />
:*Ends: Day 54 (earliest possible)<br />
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:At the end of the episode, Roslin escapes and Bill Adama wakes up. In "The Farm", Gaeta states that Roslin's escape took place "last week". This is very vague, and means only that "The Farm" begins more than one day after "Resistance", or else Gaeta would have said "yesterday". In a [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/episodes/season02/205/deleted2.html scene] cut from beginning of The Farm (during Roslin's arrival on ''[[Kimba Huta]]''), Roslin makes a stronger statement - that it's been an "entire week" since her escape from ''Galactica''. This allows us to constrain the date of this episode fairly well, by substracting a seven day period from the well established possible date range for The Farm:<br />
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:*Ends Day 55 (latest, if Tigh were in command for 11 days (the longest probable time period))<br />
:*Ends Day 57 (latest, if Tigh were in command for 13 days (the longest possible time period))<br />
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:I thus consider Days 53-54 to be most likely range. This assumption is important, as "Flight of the Phoenix" must be calculated based on the day of Cally's arrest. <br />
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*'''The Farm''' begins with Adama resuming command. According to D'Anna Biers in "Final Cut", Tigh was in command for "over a week". I take this to mean 8-11 days, since if it had been 12 or more, she probably would have said "almost two weeks". That puts the beginning of this episode at day 59 (earliest) or day 62 (latest).<br />
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:*Begins: Day 59 (earliest) (Kobol's Last Gleaming Part I (Day 51) + 8 days)<br />
:*Begins: Day 62 (latest probable) (+11 days)<br />
:*Begins: Day 64 (latest possible) (+13 days)<br />
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:Roslin, as noted above, clarifies further in a cut scene, implying that this episode takes place exactly seven days after "Resistance". Working off of my estimate above, I therefore suggest that the most probable start date for this episode is Day 61, which puts Tigh in command for a 10 day period.<br />
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:This also means that Adama spent seven days between resuming consciousness and resuming command. Given the extent of his injuries, this is entirely plausible.<br />
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*'''Home, Part I''' begins immediately after the end of "The Farm".<br />
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*'''Final Cut''' takes place 10 days after the last Cylon contact. Since there were none since Valley of Darkness (Day 51), unless we count the Roslin Faction's skirmish on Kobol, and the episode clearly takes place much later than day 61, we must assume there has been a Cylon contact at some point ''after'' "Home, Part II", and that it's been more than ten days since then.<br />
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*'''Flight of the Phoenix''' features Cally's release from the brig. Since Bill Adama was being lenient when he sentenced her (in The Farm, some time after she would've been initially imprisoned), we may assume he granted her time served. If she killed Boomer on the evening of day 54, her first day in the brig would have been completed on the evening of day 55, her 30th on the evening of day 84. Her welcome-back party was probably that very night.<br />
:*Begins: Day 84 (earliest, if "Resistance" ended on day 54)<br />
:*Begins: Day 87 (latest possible, if Tigh was in command for 13 days, and thus Resistance ended on Day 57)<br />
:As per "Resistance", we assume Day 84 here.<br />
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:The duration of the episode is difficult to determine. We can probably put an upper limit on it based on the progress of Roslin's disease in the following episodes, but in his podcast, RDM notes that the timeline was kept deliberately vague for dramatic purposes:<br />
:<blockquote>The true timeline of how long it would really take Tyrol to actually build one of these things from scratch would probably be much - it would be weeks, realistically. But you'd rather tell the story in one package. You'd rather tell the story, hold the viewer in the moment of the scene, make them invest themselves in the effort and pay it off. And so you can fudge the timeline, you can kind of skate by it. There's no definitive statement in the episode of how long this is all taking. It's kept purposely vague. It's not - there's no, like, y'know, clock going on. No one's mentioning a passage of time really since he started working on the viper. You could probably find cryptic references here and there that might nail it down to a specific timeline - ''maybe''.</blockquote><br />
:*Although interpreting Moore's comments may not be wise, his notion that the Blackbird would take at least "weeks" to complete is probably plausible. Thus we can guess that the episode ends at ''the earliest'' 14 days later.<br />
:*Ends: Day 98 (if "Resistance" ended on day 54)<br />
:*Ends: Day 99 (if Tigh was in command for 11 days, and thus Resistance ended on Day 55)<br />
:*Ends: Day 101 (if Tigh was in command for 13 days, and thus Resistance ended on Day 57)<br />
:An upper limit on the end date of this episode is provided by the start of "Pegasus". When more information is available we will probably want to expand the date range as generously as possible, given the lengthy construction task in depicts.<br />
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*'''Pegasus''' is very difficult to date because of the trouble with the duration of "Flight of the Phoenix". All that can be said for certain is that, since Roslin is still on her feet, it can't ''possibly'' be more than 30 days after that episode begins, and ''probably'' no more than 20. Conceivably, "Pegasus" could have begun the very day "Flight of the Phoenix" ended, with the christening ceremony and Roslin's appearance on Galactica bookmarking the same visit. Otherwise, there were probably several days or more between her visits.<br />
**This is a slightly difficult reading, if only because of Adama's line "Well, Madam President, you picked a hell of a day for a visit" - she didn't pick the day for her visit in "Flight of the Phoenix", the deck crew did. <br />
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*'''Resurrection Ship, Part I''' is explicitly stated to take place six months after the fall of the twelve colonies. This badly contradicts earlier information, and there is no plausible place to insert the missing two month period, since Roslin's prognosis is updated before Cally is released from the brig in "Flight of the Phoenix". The episode itself does not appear to span more than a day.<br />
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*'''Resurrection Ship, Part II''' resumes immediately from the end of Part I, and appears to span about two and a half days.<br />
:In the episode "Epiphanies", which begins on day 189, Gaius Baltar notes that it has been "weeks" since he last saw his internal six. That puts her last appearance in this episode no later than day 175.<br />
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*'''Epiphanies''' should take place very near the end of the life span projected for Roslin in "Flight of the Phoenix". Hopefully more information will be available to date later episodes from that point, but if not, it's probably the last episode that will be dateable with any degree of certainty. For now, we can state that ''at the latest'', the episode ''begins'':<br />
:*Begins: Day 114 (if "Resistance" ended on day 54)<br />
:*Begins: Day 115 (if Tigh was in command for 11 days, and thus Resistance ended on Day 55)<br />
:*Begins: Day 117 (if Tigh was in command for 13 days, and thus Resistance ended on Day 57)<br />
:However, it now appears that Cain's "six month" statement will be adhered to in future episodes. [http://galactica.emedian.net/episode/2.13/imagepages/image13.html Promotional photographs] from the episode indicate that Boomer is showing visibly, which is more consistant with a five-month pregnancy than the three-month pregnancy accounted for above. (Boomer was impregnated between Day 24 and Day 36 in the first season.)<br />
::Unless you go with the "Cylons have accelerated pregnancies" argument, which is admittedly something of a cop-out. --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 20:09, 14 January 2006 (EST)<br />
:The episode explicitly states that it takes place on Day 189 post-holocaust. The missing two months cannot be accounted for, and must be written off as a continuity error.<br />
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*In '''Black Market''', Fisk's assasination takes place "a matter of weeks" after Cain's. Phelan is killed two days later. Apollo's debriefing probably takes place the next day after that.<br />
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*Scar opens on Majahual's 29th day of mining operations. During this time period, the fleet has split up so that ''Galactica'' may guard mining operations while ''Pegasus'' shepherds the fleet and provides a less static target. The big question here is, could "Black Market" have taken place during this 29-day span?<br />
**Evidence in favor: The distance from Admiral Adama's oversight would hvae afforded Jack Fisk ample opportunity to become embroiled with the Black Market.<br />
**Evidence against: Both ''Pegasus'' and ''Galactica'' are both seen with the Fleet at the beginning of "Black Market". This means that either the fleet had yet to split up, ''Majahual'' had returned to the Fleet with ''Galactica'', or that ''Majahual'' had been left behind in the asteroid field, defenseless.<br />
***Counterpoint: It may have been necessary for the mining ships involved in the project to offload ore at refinery ship ''Daru Mozu'' before returning to mining activities. In this case, ''Galactica'' could have been escorting a mining ship back to the fleet during "Black Market".<br />
**Evidence against: In the midst of Scar's attacks during the mining operation, Lee Adama would have been a poor choice to lead the investigation into Fisk's murder, since his skills as CAG were in greater demand with the Viper squadrons.<br />
:So, could "Epiphanies" have as well?<br />
:*Evidence in favor: Thrace spends most of her time in "Epiphanies" onboard ''Galactica''. The mining operations give her an excuse to be on ''Galactica'' despite her nominal position as CAG of ''Pegasus''.<br />
:*Evidence against: Roslin spent what were very nearly her last days in ''Galactica'''s infirmary. If ''Galactica'' had been in a combat situation at the time, this would not have been a good choice.<br />
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*Not much information is available to pin down the date of '''Sacrifice'''.<br />
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*'''The Captain's Hand''' gives us two clues as to its date:<br />
**It has been "almost a month" since Lee Adama was wounded in "Sacrifice".<br />
**Baltar's initial projection of the fleet's population trends took place "over seven months ago". This was ''before'' the arrival of ''Pegasus'', since he has to factor the crew of that ship in afterwards.<br />
***Note that this quite explicitly contradicts information given on the date of the presidential election given throughout the first season (seven months from "Bastille Day", six moths from "Colonial Day") - clearly, the election should already have taken place by now.<br />
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*''Galactica''-Valerii's resurrection in '''Downloaded''' takes place ten weeks after her death in "Resistance", which was firmly dated to be absolutely no later than Day 57, and probably no later than Day 54, above. That would put "Downloaded" at around Day 124, which explicitly contradicts almost every other piece of timeline information provided since "Resurrection Ship, Part I".<br />
**[[Hera]]'s birth apparently takes place nine months after the destruction of the twelve colonies, setting the date at roughly Day 270. This makes her birth about a month premature (Valerii was impregnated sometime between Day 24 and Day 36). This is at least in line with the post-"Resurrection Ship" timeline.<br />
**Is it possible that the scenes on Cylon-ocupied Caprica and in The Fleet do not take place concurrently?<br />
***Downloaded denotes both Caprica and Galactica as "present day". --Redwall<br />
***They've pretty much established that we're at "Month 9". 10 weeks ago? A month passed between "Sacrifice" and "Captain's Hand", another during Scar, and at least two before that; that would put her death in the Cain Trilogy! --->This is a goof!--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 23:16, 24 February 2006 (EST)<br />
**Number Three states that Thrace was on Caprica "a couple of weeks ago". It's not entirely clear how long "The Farm" lasted, but it was clearly many months ago - Galactica-Valerii wasn't even showing in that episode, and she gives birth here.<br />
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*'''Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I''' gives us many clues.<br />
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months".<br />
**Tyrol has been having nightmares for two weeks.<br />
**The episode opens on the first day of the presidential debates. James MacManus tells us that Baltar declared his candidacy a month ago, and that the polls will open in two weeks.<br />
**Simultaneously, Apollo remarks that the raptor pilots will be missing five days of debate. This would seem to indicate that he expects their return within that time span.<br />
**Roslin, Foster, Baltar and Zarek are seen reading coverage of the debates the following morning.<br />
**Immediately afterwards, we see the Raptor team check in and make their first jump.<br />
**A series of events take place whose timeline is somewhat indeterminate.<br />
**We then see Starbuck's team prepping for their final jump. This is intercut with the final presidential debate, during which MacManus states that the polls are set to open in three days.<br />
:So, we can conclude the following:<br />
:*Day 240: "The Captain's Hand" ends with Baltar's announcement of candidacy.<br />
:*Day 270: Opening debate.<br />
:*Day 271: Candidates review media coverage, Raptors depart for Caprica.<br />
:*Day 281: Final debate. Raptors arrive at Caprica.<br />
:*Day 284: Polls open (projected).<br />
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:Comments: Apollo's "five day" comment is confusing, since the Raptor team was apparently only halfway there by LDYB1 + 5, and at their rate of travel couldn't be expected to return until LDYB1 + 22 days.<br />
:If the Raptors were only making ten jumps, as Gaeta tells us, this means that they were only making one jump per day. Although we've never seen raptors operating at such a long range before, it still seems like a slower rate than one would expect.<br />
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'''Summary of Known Information:'''<br />
*KLG, pt. II, Scattered, Valley of Darkness, Fragged - Day 51<br />
*The Farm: Duration unknown. Begins 8-13 days after KLG, pt. II (probably no more than 11)<br />
*Resistance: Covers 2 days. Ends 7 days before The Farm.<br />
*Flight of the Phoenix: Duration is at least 14 days. Begins 30 days after Resistance.<br />
*Resurrection Ship, Part II: Six's last appearance is at least 14 days before the beginning of "Epiphanies".<br />
*Epiphanies: Should begin less than 30 days after Flight of the Phoenix.<br />
*Epiphanies: Begins Day 189<br />
*Black Market: Begins less than 60 days after Cain's assasination.<br />
*The Captain's Hand: Thrace was assigned to ''Pegasus'' before Adama, but not by long - she was only on board for four days prior to the Battle of the Binary Star System.<br />
*The Captain's Hand: Begins after Thrace's assignment, and "almost a month" after "Sacrifice". Probably between 21 and 29 days. <br />
*The Captain's Hand: Baltar's comment about population statistics is at least 7.5 months (225 days) post-attack.<br />
*Downloaded: Begins nine months post-holocaust (270 days). This is the most likely of several conflicting pieces of information.<br />
*Lay Down Your Burdens, Part 1: Begins 30 days after the end of "The Captain's Hand."<br />
*Lay Down Your Burdens, Part 1: One day later, Zarek states that it's about nine-months post-holocaust.<br />
*Lay Down Your Burdens, Part 1: Ends 11 days after the first debates.<br />
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''More to come.'' --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:39, 11 December 2005 (EST)<br />
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===How You Can Help===<br />
I need thoughts on the following:<br />
*How many days was Kara Thrace at the Farm on Caprica?<br />
*How many days do both parts of "Home" span?<br />
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===Further cleanup===<br />
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Firstly, I'm thinking that "Epiphanies" will take place exactly 30 days after "Flight of the Phoenix" (getting it down to the wire, last possible moment to save Roslin, etc). However, I used to think "Flight of the Phoenix" happened on day 86, now it's been moved to day 89 (I don't understand the reasoning), and FotP's date is based on Cally's arrest at the end of "Resistance", however recently the deleted scenes revealed the "The Farm" takes place one week after "Fragged". I'm not adept enough at this to sort it all out, maybe someone else can. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 10:58, 10 December 2005 (EST)<br />
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:Which scene? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:33, 10 December 2005 (EST)<br />
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::During the Roslin halucination scene in "Resistance", I believe; she says that the Quorum has been unsure of whether to support her or not for "a week now". Granted, it was a dream sequence, but I think it accurately reflects what the tone of the episode was.--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 22:07, 10 December 2005 (EST)<br />
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:::Oh, you meant The Farm, which wasn't a hallucination. That's helpful. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:01, 11 December 2005 (EST)<br />
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== 6 months? ==<br />
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I thought I heard "Is that what you two have been doing out here for the last '''six months'''?" (following by something about philosophical debates and not having that luxury in time of war) from Cain on Colonial One. 180 days is a lot, so I thought I would mention it instead of add it, since I might just have heard incorrectly. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 21:34, 7 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:See [[Resurrection Ship, Part I#Analysis]]. Her comment cannot possibly be correct, but on the other hand, she was speaking in haste and might have been exagerating for dramatic effect. Pegasus and Resurrection Ship almost certainly take place three months and change since the attack. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:23, 7 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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Further, in "[[Final Cut]]" D'Anna Biers states that Col. Tigh was in command of Galactica for "over a week"--->which is from "Scattered" to "Resistance" (maybe "The Farm"). I'm going to be liberal with this and say that was 13 days at most (obviously, this is probably not this case). Theorizing here: We know that Col. Tigh took command on Day 51 (on screen Fact), and that may have been in "command" for at most 14 days-->Resistance takes place on Day 65ish. Cally is given 30 days in the brig, gets out in "Flight of the Phoenix" which begins on Day 85ish then. Now, RDM did say that "weeks" pass during Flight of the Phoenix, which we always interpretted as "at least two weeks". In the same episode, Roslin is told that she has one month (30 days), ''tops'', to live. "Pegasus" could have occured right after this. Anyway, "Epiphanies" now says that it takes place on Day 189? Okay, subtract 14 days for the two weeks Six was gone; that's 175. At LEAST two days pass during the Cain trilogy; so 173. --->When does "Flight of the Phoenix" end? That's the question. Well, subtract 30 from 173 and we get 143. You know, no matter how many ways I look at it, I'm suspecting they're trying to pull a full-blown '''retcon''' on us, because they're apparently saying that "Flight of the Phoenix" from beginning to end lasted '''two months'''. '''We know as stated fact that the Presidential elections are taking place on Day 222''' (give or take a week). So unless in an episode stated to take place 30 days from now, there is an election, this is just one of the biggest goofs we've ever had. Thoughts?--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 18:13, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's where it stands. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:37, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::Who says FOTP didn't take 2 months? They were building a frakking ship from scratch, after all. Granted, its the biggest leap we've seen in a single episode, but is there evidence to the contrary? --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 20:01, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
:::Yes. Roslin gets her one-month prognosis ''before'' Cally's release from the brig, which we can firmly date. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:39, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::Also, remember that Laura was '''''starting''''' her education-related tour thingee 189 days before Ephiphanies. I am pretty sure that she was almost ENDING it during the miniseries. So, I think we can safely say that Ephiphanies is not happening on day 189, but rather, before it. Granted, its probably not more than a week or two, but that week could be what we're missing to make the timeline coherent. --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 20:01, 21 January 2006 (EST) <br />
:::In his podcast, Moore states the the flashback scenes were meant to take place in between Roslin's diagnosis and her departure for Galactica, which was all in the span of one day. He admits that the timeline has to be fudged a bit to get Baltar and Six on the scene, but it was a very short time span. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:39, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::Furthermore, however, I think that we're missing gaps that occur between episodes. For instance, is there evidence that KLG took place right after Colonial Day? We listed a one day gap, but what are we basing that on? There could be a week gap there and we wouldn't know it.<br />
:::There is very firm evidence for all the first season dating, including Colonial Day and Kobol's Last Gleaming. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:39, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::I think we need to list the things we DO know (colonial day takes place on day 47, there is a 30 day gap between resistance and the beginning of FOTP, and Ephiphanies takes place in the 180 day range, etc.) and then rebuild the timeline from there, working in reasonable gaps. We are saying that there are continuity errors due to Ephiphanies, but I doubt RDM would make a blunder like that. We just think there is a continuity error because we've been speculating ao many dates and then taking them for fact. --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 20:01, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
:::I have been maintaining exactly such a list at the bottom of my lengthy discussion on the topic. I encourage you to read it fully. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:39, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:::Some might call this cavalier, but this is what I ''propose'' as what I would like: Firstly, we're going to bludgeon Ron D. Moore's blog with questions about this until we get an answer (even of the "so what? we made it up" variety, anything). You see, BMS, I feel that we '''should not restructure the timeline based on "Epiphanies"'''. We should point out in the Notes section of every following episode "This is so and so many days after "Epiphanies", however note that BattlestarWiki's timeline shows that it couldn't be this". This is either a major blunder, a retcon, or both. We're not basing it on "Colonial Day", we're basing it on "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II" which was the final day that we got a date on screen (Day 51). KLG part I begins immediately after Colonial Day as you see that Starbuck got drunk at the party then had sex with Baltar in the following episode (she has the same dress, etc). Simply;<br />
:::*Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II through Valley of Darkness happen pretty much on the same day, Day 51.<br />
:::*Colonel Tigh could not possibly have been in command of Galactica for a period of over two weeks. He was in command starting in "Scattered", until "Resistance", although possibly this could have extended until "The Farm". <br />
:::*Cally is given a sentence of 30 days in the brig in "The Farm" for shooting Boomer in "Resistance". (we always assumed it mean 30 Days counting from when she was first arrested, not several days later when Adama sentenced her). She gets out in "Flight of the Phoenix".<br />
:::*Roslin is told later in Flight of the Phoenix that she has no more than one month to live. That puts a MAXIMUM of 30 days between the END of Flight of the Phoenix and "Epiphanies". We do know that Flight of the Phoenix DOES span a time period of WEEKS, we always assumed this was at least two. Though I guess up to four would not be "unreasonable". <br />
:::*Adding them up, 51+14+30 = 90. Flight of the Phoenix BEGINS at around at least Day 90 (although the SCENE with Roslin's diagnosis is after the scene when Cally gets out, I'm willing to fudge it and just say that scenes on different ships don't necessarily happen in order if they don't affect each other right away. Fair enough).---->Thus, "Epiphanies" could not take place any later than Day 120, which is FOUR months, not Six (to quote Picard, "THERE...ARE...**FOUR**..." MONTHS!). What are we supposed to believe, that Flight of the Phoenix lasted '''two months'''? I mean the biggest "official" gap between episodes was the 10 day gap between The Hand of God and Colonial Day.<br />
:::*Another big, "dumb question" I have: If Pegasus-through-Epiphanies (within a few days of each other) is supposed to take place ''Six'' months after the Cylon attack, '''Why isn't Caprica-Boomer more visibly pregnant?!'''. Her daughter was conceived a month after the attack, which would make her ''Five months pregnant'' in "Pegasus". Yet in Pegasus, she's wearing a REALLY form fitting tank top in which she doesn't look noticeably pregnant at all. Anyone else baffled by this?--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 10:47, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::::Roslin's prognosis is updated very early in "Flight of the Phoenix", ''before'' Cally's release from the brig, so really it should be "a maximum of 30 days between the BEGINNING of Flight of the Phoenix" and "Epiphanies". As for Boomer, she looks about five months along in "Epiphanies", but certainly did not during the "Pegasus" trilogy. I think it's fairly obvious that we just have to write off the "lost" two months as a continuity glitch - there's certainly no use badgering RDM about it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:28, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::::Thanks, Peter. Thats what I really wanted to see, the dates that we know filled in with the dates we can speculate. It appears your right, there are 2 months missing. I didn't think that RDM would make such a huge blunder - If I were him, I would have written out all the dates George Lucas style - he had the entire Star Wars timeline from Anakin's birth to Luke's death planned out before he even released the first one back in 1977. I thought RDM, with his whole "naturalistic science fiction" crusade would have done the same. Way to frak it up, RDM. PS way to work in the Picard reference - great episode. --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 15:33, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
:::::No he didn't. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 16:30, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
::::I just had another thought. Perhaps Roslins little tour lasted 2 months. If she was going to all 12 colonies, who knows? That might be the missing two months right there. Do we have a reference to the duration of that tour? --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 15:36, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:::::See RDM's podcast for his thoughts on the duration of the flashbacks. They were originally intended to all take place in between Roslin's diagnosis and her departure for ''Galactica'', all on the same day. Note that her suit matches the one she arrived on Galactica wearing. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:43, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::::::Oooh yeah... you're right. Well, I guess RDM's really frakked himself on this one. --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 19:36, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::::Very good observations, and I think we should try to pressure RDM about this, if possible. He spouts so much rhetoric about keeping it believeable that we can't really let something like this slide. However, I don't know about using the FotP "1 month" diagnosis as the ''main'' point of continuity criticism. While it is true that Dr. Cottle has shown to be a very good doctor and his estimate is probably a well-informed one, it is still an ''estimate.'' This certainly wouldn't be the first time a patient lived longer than a doctor expected, and it won't be the last. Despite decades of collecting data, cancer is still not very well understood by Earth doctors, and it follows that since the Galactica world is almost identical to ours in terms of medical technology (by design), cancer is not all that well understood there either. [[User:Drumstick|Drumstick]] 15:37, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
:::::No. In that episode he said he's be ''surprised'' if she lived a month. They were down to a few weeks. Jumping from that to saying "well she could have just lived two months and surprised everyone" is stretching it. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 16:30, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
By the way, please try to read the discussion thread more carefully. As much as I don't care for Ricimer regurgitating my easily accessible notes, I'd still rather not be erroneously credited for his posts. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:11, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
:I'm as upset about this as you are. I was developing my own thoughts, "thinking out loud" as it were, not "regurgitating" what you said (similarities are due to the fact that they share the same source material). --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 16:30, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:I think we're all basically on the same page here, so there's no need to argue over who came up with what originally. [[User:Drumstick|Drumstick]] 17:37, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::Come on now, this is supposed to be a *happy* occassion. Let's not ''bicker'' and ''argue'' about...who killed who...--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 17:55, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:::Yeah... we're all on the same page here. Perhaps we should add a note to the bottom of the timeline page about the missing two months? Right now, it jumps from day 86 to day 175 with no explanation. Well, I guess there IS no explanation, so we should add a note saying there is no explanation... if that makes sense. Also, sorry if I mixed up who said what, this page has become a little tough to follow. My apologies to Ricimer and Peter Farago. --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 19:47, 22 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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Speaking from experience, I have known two people (one relative, one relative of a close friend) with cancer who have been given the "surprised if you see out the month" speech from doctors only to survive 3 months and 18 months respectively. My point is that even the most experienced of doctors often have to make educated guesses and sometimes they don't get the figures quite right. Sometimes the cancer doesn't behave as expected or the progression through the body slows. Given what is shown of Roslyn from FOTP, Pegasus, Resurrection Ship to Epiphanies, I don't see a huge problem with her lasting the extra 60 or so days that the timeline suggests. --[[User:Rexpop|rexpop]] 1:56, 26 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:Thank you for your insight. On reflection, this does seem to be a plausible way to reconcile the time discrepancy. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:44, 26 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:Your personal insight does not add further weight to your viewpoint. I feel this violates the Citation crusade directly: unless they say directly on screen, in dialog, "wow, she lived longer than we thought", we should under no circumstances '''assume''' that she "just happened to live longer". Remember, this is a ''tv series'' where the writers are actually trying to inform they audience by stating facts on camera. This is not a historical research paper where we are trying to find out when a real person died, and we're confused that a doctor's diagnosis notes say she would live shorter than we've been led to believe. This is a tv series, and the writers were talking with us the audience in mind when they have Cottle on screen saying "you've got weeks, a month at the outside". Note, at the "outside" chance, as in "a maximum of one month". Thus, Rosl*I*n we must assume only had one month left. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 19:57, 26 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::My only point is that of all the known information, Roslin's prognosis is the only thing that it is even ''possible'' to fudge. Whether or not one wishes to do so is a matter of personal interpretation. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:42, 26 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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::Ricimer is just dead wrong there. If you listen to RDM he constantly talks about how his characters are living in a realistic world and are fallible. If you take that to its logical conclusion, then Cottle is just making his best guess as to what her prognosis is. He gives an estimate of how long she has, but, like any real doctor, he might have been wrong. An outside chance of one month doesn't rule out something longer than one month (he just probably wouldn't have bet money on it). And even if you went back to Cottle and he said, "She'll die within 20 days, guaranteed," one man's personal belief won't change the facts, and it looks like she lived longer than that one month. --[[User:LindyChef|LindyChef]] 02:59, 26 February 2006 (EST)<br />
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:::It is irrational of you to disagree with Ricimer. And frankly your line of thinking rings of [[Wikipedia:Truthiness|Truthiness]]: it is not "one man's OPINION"; he is a DOCTOR, his prognosis was based on science and fact. Next, it was obviously a case of the writers essentially breaking the fourth wall, to announce to the audience, "she has one month to live". Finally, the amount of time that we believe was lost was on the order of ''Three Months''. It would be impossible, given the script, for Roslin to inexplicably live for four months when the medical prognosis was that she would live for one month ''at most''. Further, it does not explain the sudden shift in Caprica-Sharon's pregnancy; how she goes from not-visibly pregnant in "Pegasus" to suddenly very pregnant: if "Downloaded" supposedly takes place when she is eight months pregnant, and in Res Ship they say that six months have passed, making her 5 months pregnant all of a sudden? Even when she was wearing a tank top and stuff? Regardless, suddenly going from a "one month at best" prognosis, to "well, turns out it was four months", is a ''fantasy''. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:32, 26 February 2006 (EST)<br />
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::::It's not irrational. It is one man's opinion, a doctor's for sure, but that still doesn't change the fact that he's making a best guess based on the information at hand. Going by yours and Ricimer's line of reasoning, then in the context of this show, a doctor's guesses are always right, that they do not make mistakes. But doctors do occasionally make misdiagnoses, give incorrect prognosises and make mistakes. I admit that it is a long shot that she could last four months after a one month prognosis, but it doesn't rule out that it couldn't happen. I understand that, by throwing out the one month prognosis in dialogue, the writers are trying to give us clues in the timeline, but the one month prognosis doesn't jive and I think that this is the best way to account for that three month gap. I personally think that they threw that line out there in writing anzd, as we have seen, they haven't been playing as close attention to the timeline as they should. And in regards to the pregnancy, at 5 months she'll have a nice little bulge in her belly. What I saw in Pegasus didn't really give any view of her belly area that was clear enough to know if she has a nice bulge ... unfortunately, I don't have a copy of "Resurrection Ship, pt I" to go back and take a look the exam scene right now which might clear things up. Oh, and thanks for the catch on the timeline for "Downloaded" BTW. You're right that 270 is the birthdate. --[[User:LindyChef|LindyChef]] 15:10, 2 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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:::::Actually, if you can see Pegasus and Res Ship again it's ridiculous; she's wearing a tight fitting tank top and doesn't look pregnant at all. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 16:41, 2 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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==Duration of Home, Part I==<br />
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What's the basis for the recent dating for Home, Part I? I mean in terms of quotes or something I missed.--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 17:16, 8 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:I don't know. It would probably be best to consider it in three parts with The Farm and Home, Part II, since they all seem to pick up where the other leaves off. I've sort of held off on re-watching them longer than I should, since they aren't really my favorite episodes... --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:00, 8 January 2006 (EST)<br />
::If we just "assumed" 2 days had passed, etc without evidence I think it should be replaced with ?? marks. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 18:38, 8 January 2006 (EST)<br />
:::I agree, if there's no evidence, but let's give Kahran a chance to respond. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:41, 8 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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== Roslin's life expectancy after "Epiphanies" ==<br />
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Should we remove the "Roslin's maximum/minimum life expectancy" stat now that her cancer's been all but cured?<br />
[[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:58, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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:I'd rather not. We didn't remove her older life expectancy from "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I" when the estimate was revised downward in "Flight of the Phoenix". Both data points might still be of interest to someone who's following the continuity of the show. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:04, 21 January 2006 (EST)<br />
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==When is the Presidential Election?==<br />
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Okay, "Res Ship, part I" and "Epiphanies" established that we are now 6 months after the Cylon attack. (That's definately what they're *SAYING*, but I'm still saying how improbable it was and there must have been a lot of time passing in FotP). <br />
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Regardless, in "[[Scar]]" 29 days pass. Give a few as well for "Black Market" (do we know how many days pass in that?), and we'll call it an even "one month". <br />
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6 months + 1 month = 7 months. pollo stated in "Bastille Day" that they would hold elections in "seven months" when Roslin serves out President Adar's term. So what's going on? --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 03:11, 4 February 2006 (EST)<br />
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:RDM says the election will take place at the end of the season. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:18, 4 February 2006 (EST)<br />
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==Timing of Events of Black Market and later episodes==<br />
The "matter of weeks" timing of Black Market after Epiphanies is thorny in terms of trying to figure out when it happens. I'm estimating 3 weeks, hence 21 days. If it was much longer, they could have said "a month" or "almost a month" or "more than a month", if it was shorter, it could be "just a week" or the like. It could be a little more either way, but I put dates in estimating that much time (and noted as approximate).<br />
--Wingsandsword<br />
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:Seven weeks is still "a matter of weeks". All we can say about the "black market" comment is that it was definitely less than two months, since after that point it becomes "a matter of months". --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 03:38, 4 February 2006 (EST)<br />
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:::No Wingsandsword. Here our standard is to leave it as ?? question marks, when such a large amount of time as ''one to two weeks'' is involve.d --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 03:39, 4 February 2006 (EST)<br />
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::::I don't see any policy to that effect anywhere here. I've just checked, it's nowhere in the tutorials, nowhere in the few policies listed, nowhere I can find. There is no style guide to this wiki making things like that standard that I can tell. It might be ''your'' personal standard, but I don't see any official opinion or policy declaration that approximate dates have a specific margin of error, that beyond "x" certainty it goes from an approximate date to a completely unknown one. An approximate date is a lot more useful than just "???". We don't know when, hence it is listed as "~" days. --[[User:Wingsandsword|Wingsandsword]] 13:39, 4 February 2006 (EST)<br />
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== The Ten Weeks thing in "Downloaded" ==<br />
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Just wanted to let you guys in on a little thing regarding this "Ten Weeks Ago" thing that popped up in "Downloaded"... I was contacted by a bona-fide member of the post-production crew on BSG. While I can't get into specifics, since I didn't ask to do so, I can tell you folks that the production crew figured that the "Ten Weeks Ago" thing was a mistake (which came from the script) and this will be corrected in the home video releases and the international views to read "Ten Weeks After" (the attack). It was the fan's outcry -- and the meticulous work done on this timeline -- that brought around this correction. All our hard working contributors should be proud -- I know I am. Pretty frakkin' cool, huh? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 20:30, 2 March 2006 (CST)<br />
:It is pretty cool, but "ten weeks after the attack" is still wrong - Sharon's death can't ''possibly'' have been any later than Day 57, ie, roughly eight weeks. Nor does it address the other issue in this episode - Three's statement that Kara was on Caprica "a couple weeks ago", while Caprica-Valerii wasn't even visibly pregnant yet; nor the 74 days which seem to have vanished into the ether between "Pegasus" and "Resurrection Ship". --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:18, 2 March 2006 (CST)<br />
:: FYI, I've mailed the person in question your comments. I'm interested to see what happens with this. I'll keep you folks posted. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:39, 2 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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:::I was going to chime in on this myself: Our entire timeline supports the idea that it could not have been Day 70 (ten weeks); that was around Home, Part II. Would you guys agree that "8 weeks after" would be a good working figure? (I mean "weeks" leaves it "fuzzy around the edges", as it were, giving some 2-3 day stretch time, no need to get exact.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:10, 3 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Flight Of The Phoenix Chronology Note ==<br />
I'm sorry to say that the whole Chronology Note on this episode has several errors in it that need correcting. Rather than edit it myself, I'm starting this thread so that there is some agreement on what it is edited to. I rewatched 'Flight of the Phoenix' the other weekend from the Season 2.0 DVD set and the order of events in the episode is: <br />
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1) Caly gets released from the Brig <br />
2) Tyrol starts building the backbird <br />
3) Laura gets her one month to live diagnosis <br />
4) Galactica routs Cylon attack <br />
5) Tyrol completes the Blackbird. <br />
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So the statement that Laura's diagnosis happended before Caly was released from the brig is wrong. And there is no indication that the scene happened in flashback either. It's possible that they re-edited the episode for the DVD but I haven't seen a posting to indicate that this happened. So I would suggest that this note is removed and the episode timeline entry corrected to break out the 5 events, as they did occur on seperate days over a three month period. --[[User:Rexpop|Rexpop]] 15:38, 3 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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:Thank you; I was running off of some back information from someone else, but upon viewing a transcript at GalacticaStation, it appears that Roslin is givern her diagnosis AFTER Cally returns; this is great, and a lot simpler; now it just means that months pass between these two scenes. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 17:36, 3 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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::To clear things up I've tidied up the section for this episode. I've broken out the events as happening on different days and moved the chronology note to the notes section for further cleaning up. I've also indicated that the day of Cally's release is approximate as we don't have a firm date from when the 30 days starts from. Hopefully this will help keep the timeline fairly clean. and clear --[[User:Rexpop|Rexpop]] 21:33, 3 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Fine Tuning "Black Market" Through "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I" ==<br />
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I know that we've been able to pin the start date of "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I" to be around Day 270, but I think it we might be able to further fine tune that number to be more like Day 276. Going forward from "Epiphanies," the timeline is as follows:<br />
* At least two days pass in "Epiphanies" putting the earliest start date for the events in "Black Market" to be around Day 191.<br />
* At least one day passes in "Black Market," which means that the mining operations in "Scar" could not start until Day 192 at the earliest. Since the mining ops in "Scar" take 29 days, [[Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar ''Galactica'']] could not return to the fleet until Day 221 at the earliest.<br />
* The return of [[Galactica (RDM)|Battlestar ''Galactica'']] to the fleet means that the events of "Sacrifice" could not begin until Day 221.<br />
* Lee's recovery from the shooting in "Sacrifice" has lasted "almost a month." If we assume this is longer than three weeks and less than a month, around 25 days, then the starting date for "The Captain's Hand" would be around Day 246.<br />
* In "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I" the moderator of the debate states that Baltar announced his candidacy one month ago (in "The Captain's Hand"), putting the the beginning of the episode at around Day 276.<br />
It's six days, I know, but I think with the information at hand we can reliably date the timline for the final stretch of the season. Any thoughts, other information I'm missing? --[[User:LindyChef|LindyChef]] 14:39, 7 March 2006 (CST)</div>Cynthiahttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Lay_Down_Your_Burdens,_Part_II&diff=37385Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II2006-03-11T20:33:15Z<p>Cynthia: /* Analysis */</p>
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<div>{{Episode Data|<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 20<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]])<br>[[Kate Vernon]] ([[Ellen Tigh]])<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] ([[Cavil|Brother Cavil]])<br />
| Writer=[[IMDB:nm1093194|Anne Cofell Saunders]], [[IMDB:nm0894156|Mark Verheiden]]<br />
| Story= <br />
| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
| Production=<br />
| Rating=<br />
| US Airdate= March 10, 2006<br />
| UK Airdate=<br />
| DVD=<br />
| Population= 49,550<br />
| Prev= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
| Next= TBA<br />
}}<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
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: ''Everything turns on its head as the survivors vote for a new president -- and vote for their fate.''<br />
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== Summary == <br />
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===On Caprica===<br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], the marines, and the [[resistance (movement)|resistance]] continue to take fire from Cylon centurions and artillery. They make their way up a hill, and hold their position.<br />
*The Cylons hold fire, and Sharon remarks that the Cylons will attempt to capture them with non-lethal weapons, such as gas.<br />
*Eighteen hours later, they emerge to find that the Cylons have disappeared. [[Cavil]] -- who suddenly appears behind them -- announces that the Cylons have left the Twelve Colonies and that humanity was spared.<br />
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===In the Fleet===<br />
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*[[Cally]] is cleared back to work by [[Cottle|Dr. Cottle]], despite having her jaw wired shut (which elicits a sexist observation from the doctor). [[Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] visits her, apologizing for the attack. Cally forgives him, saying that she's always cared for him.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar|Dr. Baltar]] continues to gain in the polls. On ''[[Colonial One]]'', Tory mentions there's always a victory plan. [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] later calls a private meeting with Dr. Baltar, asking to deliver a joint statement of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_%28verb%29 tabling] the issue of colonization until after the election, which Baltar rejects. <br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] returns to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', with the resistance fighters, much to the delight of Admiral Adama. She mentions the fact that the Cylons have left Caprica, and a man appearing to be Brother Cavill confirms it. He also says he has a message, but is attacked by Chief Tyrol, claiming he's a Cylon. Both Cavill and Caprica-Sharon are escorted to the brig under marine guard.<br />
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*The other Cavill (from last episode) is also taken to the brig, claiming he's not a Cylon, but changes his tune upon seeing his "brother", as he calls him. Both Cavills then talk about the fact that the “war heroes” (Caprica Six & ''Galactica''-Sharon) have talked about how the attack of the colonies and the pursuit of the fleet were mistakes. They were told to relay the message that man and Cylon will go their separate ways. Both Roslin and Admiral Adama are less than trusting regarding the message.<br />
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*Election Day has arrived and Baltar has an apparent five thousand-vote lead over Roslin with only a few ships left. On ''Colonial One'', Tory makes a call to ''Galactica'', putting a plan into action. <br />
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*Amazingly, Roslin initially appears to have retained the presidency. While most are celebrating, Lt. Gaeta makes a starting discovery regarding the votes, and informs the Admiral that Col. Tigh may be involved in a conspiracy to throw the election.<br />
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*Admiral Adama confronts Roslin regarding the conspiracy, saying he has a confession to rig the vote. Roslin admits her involvement and Adama is disappointed.<br />
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*Baltar is informed of his nomination as President. He's less than pleased, vowing to have full investigation in time. President-elect Baltar then orders a course for “New Caprica”.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar]] is sworn in as the new President of the Twelve Colonies, and orders the immediate colonization of New Caprica.<br />
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*''[[Cloud 9]]'' is destroyed by a nuclear blast, Gina being present before the explosion; in addition to the ''Cloud 9'', at least two other ships are destroyed in the blast. Admiral Adama reports to the president that this may be a Cylon attack, but Baltar ignores him and presses forward with colonization.<br />
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===One Year Later===<br />
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*[[Felix Gaeta|Mr. Gaeta]] is reporting to the President regarding a Union issue aboard Colonial One, now down on the planet. Baltar is upset, saying there have been no Cylon attacks but the people still complain. He has regressed, turning to alcohol, medication, and womanizing.<br />
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*Admiral Adama, now donning a mustache, is walking around a near-empty Galactica, the ship falling into disarray. Over half of the crew has moved down to the planet, and they are running on such a skeleton crew that they barely have enough pilots to fly training missions, much less a good CAP. Adama has a discussion with Tigh about going down to the planet, which Tigh reluctantly agrees to.<br />
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*[[Samuel Anders|Anders]], now Kara’s husband, is sick with pneumonia. Dr. Cottle is saying he can’t do much for him, saying there are no antibiotics available, but he is young and healthy, and with a little luck he "should" pull through.<br />
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*Kara runs into the Tighs as [[Tyrol]], now a union boss, is making a speech to begin a strike, a pregnant Cally by his side. Saul mentions that Pegasus keeps the backup medical supplies and that Apollo would spring some for Starbuck. Starbuck disagrees, which prompts Tigh to state that Apollo would be "over that by now".<br />
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*Roslin is doing what she does best, teaching the settlement's school, and manages to find enjoyment in her old position. [[Maya]] is with her, as is the now one year old [[Hera]], whom Maya has named "Isis". <br />
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*Kara calls Lee aboard Pegasus to requesting medication. Lee's gained a lot of weight in the past year. Dualla is now an officer, serving by Lee Adama's side in Pegasus' CIC. Before Lee can reply, Dualla catches something on [[DRADIS]]. <br />
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*A fleet of [[Cylon]] [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s arrive in orbit around New Caprica. The Adamas are having a discussion about what to do, when [[Helo]] asks if alert fighters should be launched. Admiral Adama keeps them in as the defense fleet jumps away.<br />
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*Mr. Gaeta informs the President of the Cylon approach. Later, before his assembled staff, copies of Number 5, 8, and 6 approach the President. The Cylons declare that as long as there’s no resistance, no harm will come. President Baltar declares surrender on behalf of the colonists, and as Cylon armies occupy the planet, Kara vows to resist.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
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*What "number" is Cavil?<br />
*Was Roslin's threat to put the two Cavils into space actually carried out?<br />
**Most likely not, she had the election on her mind, much to do, and didn't actually make it an order. Baltar would have been unlikely to vent them into space.<br />
*Where did the defense fleet jump to?<br />
**Likely a prearranged rendezvous point, similar to that of the miniseries.<br />
*Where is Caprica-Sharon?<br />
**Most likely, still in ''Galactica'''s brig. This is probably why Helo is still aboard ship, having taken a CIC officer's position.<br />
**In the podcast, Ron Moore vaguely hinted that they hadn't forgotten about Sharon, but that we'd have to "wait and see". Apparently, several of the early season 3 episodes will have flashbacks dealing with events that took place in the year that passed.<br />
*What happened to Zarek?<br />
*Why is Leoben looking for Starbuck, specifically?<br />
** Could it be the same [[Leoben Conoy]] that Starbuck interrogated in "[[Flesh and Bone]]"?<br />
*** As seen with ''Galactica''-Sharon, it is distinctly possible that that particular Leoben was lying when he said he'd actually die and not download. <br />
*Why has the population (until Tyrol's recent union speech) accepted Baltar's imperious rule? People were hardly so passive under Roslin. Indeed, Adama executed a military coup over a rather less important issue than giving a nuclear weapon to a Cylon agent.<br />
**Admiral Adama wasn't conclusive as to how the weapon got on board Cloud Nine.<br />
**Baltar pointed out there have been no attacks since he took office. Under Roslin the attacks were common. Perhaps for a year the people decided they preferred the safety Baltar gave them to their liberties.<br />
**They did vote them in, and perhaps the struggle of trying to survive on this planet is distracting their attention, i.e. at first they weren't sure how much to blame on Baltar, or on the simple struggle of trying to rebuild. Howevever, it hasn't been a particularly smooth or easy presidency, as shown by the recent Union strike.<br />
*Are the Six and Eight that Baltar surrendered to [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]]?<br />
**Judging from Six's reaction to Baltar, almost definitely.<br />
*Where did the Cylon fleets go, after they left the Twelve Colonies? Cavil was deliberately vague when asked if they simply returned to the [[Cylon homeworld]].<br />
*How many people died in the Cloud Nine explosion?<br />
**The Cloud Nine explosion also destroyed ships near it. Given the stated size of the New Caprica population along with subtracting the minimal crew sizes needed to maintain the ships in orbit, you can estimate that approximately 3000 to 5000 people died.<br />
***Actually, we have no idea how many people were still crewing the civilian ships in the Fleet when ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' jumped away, so it could actually have been thousands less than that.<br />
*When Gina-Six was instantly vaporized due to being only two feet from a nuclear detonation, did she still transmit her consciousness? Was she even capable of transmitting considering that any internal hardware responsible for this task would have been instantly destroyed?<br />
**They have already established that with the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed, Cylons in the fleet that are killed will ''actually'' die. Gina expressed suicidal impulses as early as "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]".<br />
**Additionally, since the Cylons found the planet due to the radiation, it is unlikely that Gina was resurrected, as she then would have told the Cylons the location of the planet.<br />
*Given Roslin's memories of Baltar with Six, why didn't Admiral Adama suspect Baltar of handing over the nuke to the cylons? If he did suspect him, why not act on it?<br />
**He had no real proof.<br />
*Did the events of "One Year Later" actually happen, or were they a dream or vision sequence given to Baltar?<br />
**Although Baltar has had elaborate visions in the past, this vision left Baltar's point of view several times, addressing issues such as the marriage of Kara to Sam Anders and Adama's friendship with Tigh that are of little knowledge or importance to Baltar.<br />
***Ron D. Moore has stated in interviews that the first 4-5 episodes of season 3 will deal with the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, and unless a vast swath of episodes is going to be a dream sequence, all of these "one year later" events ''really'' happen.<br />
***Moore actually discusses this in the podcast, saying that many people might just assume this is a dream, or a ''Dallas''-like season-erasing shower-dream episode, but he thought it was a bold decision to jump ahead a full year, and have all of it be definitely real.<br />
*Why was it so easy for Adama to hide the collusion of the rigged election from the press, and why were there no consequences?<br />
**So far as we know, Adama, Tigh, Gaeta, Dualla, Dualla's two associates, Tory, and Roslin are the only people that knew; 6 are military personnel, 4 of whom would be implicated, and the other 2 were directly involved civilians. All are strongly motivated to conceal the information.<br />
* Why would it take the Cylons over one year to find New Caprica, alerted by the nuclear detonation prior to the inhabitation of the planet?<br />
**It was stated in the previous episode that the interference from the gas cloud surrounding it would hide the planet fairly well. The Cylons were slightly over a light year away, according to the Number Five. Searching something as large as the gas cloud likely is for a planet or fleet is, given the sensor range limitations, quite impressive to accomplish in months, even with general directional information from a light-year out.<br />
***Actually with the Cylon base 1 light year away, it would take 1 year for the nuke to show up on the Cylon sensors. Short of some FTL communication system, that's the only way the Cylons would have been able to detect the planet. Since the fleet is all in within non-FTL distances, all the FTL devices, if any exist would likely have been destroyed or disabled. <br />
*If the Cylons really left the Twelve Colonies, leaving behind a nuked-out wasteland, what happened to all of the human captives in the [[Farms]]?<br />
**Has it really been established that all that remains of the colonies are nuked-out wastelands? Yes, it's clear that they were nuked from the mini-series, yet in more recent episodes, it's also clear that the Cylons have been rebuilding them, in particular Caprica. The comment is bizarre in that Admiral Adama would know this as well, given the return of Anders who no doubt gave a full account of his experiences.<br />
*Why have the Cylons returned? According to [[Cavil]], the two races were to go their "separate ways". The Cylons may have been worried about the humans retaliating at some point in the future, but the location of the Cylon world(s) is still unknown to the humans, so ensuring the safety of their society presumably isn't the motive behind the occupation of [[New Caprica]].<br />
**This assumes that the Cylons were being honest in their announcement of withdrawl from all Human contact and association. It is possible that this was a tactical feint and the Cylons went looking for possible alternate locations where the Humans could have resettled.<br />
*Did the Cavils lie about the pursuit of humanity being a mistake? Or were they telling the truth?<br />
** If they were telling the truth, perhaps not all Cylons are readily able to admit and rectify their mistakes as the Cavils believed.<br />
** It seems that the intent was truthful, given that Caprica-Six and Sharon are taking an active leadership role in this new occupation. What seems unclear is how their positions has changed from Downloaded, where they clearly felt that the Cylon destruction of humanity was wrong. This is especially so for Sharon, who still considered herself human. Why would she go along willingly with this new course of action of occupation and presumably other forms of experimentation.<br />
*Will the Cylons resume their pursuit of the Fleet?<br />
*How many people are left in the Fleet?<br />
**The population of New Caprica City is given as 39,192. There were just under 50,000 people in the Fleet before establishing the settlement, so that gives a figure of roughly 10,000, ignoring any births and deaths that have taken place during the year since the election. This almost certainly means that both ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' will be extremely short on crew, as many military personnel will have been left on the planet. There was clearly no time to retrieve even selected members of the crews before the Fleet jumped.<br />
***Will the Adamas resort to Cain's tactic of conscripting civilians to fill the gaps?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Baltar's arrogance seems to have led to corrupt rule during his year on New Caprica—he replaces Roslin's modest desk with a larger, elaborate one, replaces the population count whiteboard with a portrait of himself, and keeps a harem aboard the landed Colonial One.<br />
*After a whole year, everyone is still living in tents. There is a vital shortage of medicine, the military is of no use, and labor conditions are apparently intolerable. Baltar's administration is apparently as incompetent as Roslin feared. <br />
**It is not clear whether these conditions are the result of admimistrative incompetence or the inherent difficulties of colonizing a marginally habitable planet.<br />
***Of course, it was Baltar's idea to settle on a marginally habitable planet in the first place.<br />
*It's ironic that the obligations of duty keep Lee Adama aboard Pegasus while everyone else goes planetside—he is a reserve officer, and promised to build his pilots a bar as soon as they found a habitable planet.<br />
*Ron Moore has once again decided to play with viewer's expectations; in the podcast for "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]" Moore commented on how everyone assumed that ''Pegasus'' would be destroyed by the end of the episode, and thus he thought it would be a good twist to keep ''Pegasus'' alive as another ship in the Fleet. Here, many viewers assumed that the nuke that Baltar gave to Gina in "[[Epiphanies]]" would be used to destroy ''Pegasus'' this time, but it wasn't.<br />
*29 people died between this episode and the preceding one? One or two Raptors were lost, and some Marines died on Caprica, but that doesn't seem high enough.<br />
**Is it possible they took out all of the people who left in the raptors because they were not apart of the fleet at the end of the previous episode?<br />
***They didn't remove Starbuck from the count when she left for Caprica at the beginning of Season 2.<br />
****She left at the end of season one, before they started the count. But, they did not add her to the count when she returned with Helo, because the count rose by one.<br />
**Maybe more people died during the attack on Caprica than was shown.<br />
*It seems odd that no mention was made of the casualties on the return from Caprica, just jubilant celebration?<br />
**Although they didn't actually talk about the losses, there was a shot of a wounded person being taken away on a stretcher.<br />
*A more reasonable explanation is that there was a late update in the survivor count that took into account those who died off-screen during the Cylon attack on the Pegasus in "[[The Captain's Hand]]". Soldiers who are killed are often listed as MIA (Missing in Action) until they can be confirmed as KIA (Killed in Action). In the aftermath of the attack on the Pegasus, it would have taken a while to determine the exact number of crewmen and pilots killed. Also, there were probably a number of crewmen who died from injuries afterwards. As a result, a delay in updating the survivor count is quite likely.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
* '''According to Ron Moore's podcast, although Scifi Channel was willing to air this episode as a 90-minute special, it had to be heavily edited down for international distribution; outside of the United States, viewers will only see a 1 hour version of the episode, which Moore regards as "almost incomprehensible".''' Many plot threads, such as the entire Cally/Tyrol subplot, were completely removed from the one hour version.<br />
* Ron Moore's podcast for episode 13, [[Epiphanies]], states that the Nuke given to Gina will come back in this episode, to the benefit of the Cylons.<br />
*In RDM's podcast for the previous episode, he said that in early drafts of this special 90 minute long episode, the writers actually tried to make it a 2 hour special, but this was soon dropped (these times are including commercials).<br />
*The election board appears to have a definitive list of the names of all of the ships in [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Not all of them are clearly visible, but this would seem to indicate that the writers do have an actual list that they get new ship names from. Ship names visible on the chart are: Demetrius, Diomedes, Embla Brokk, Enkidu, Epheme, Galactica, Gideon, Gemenon Traveller, Greenleaf, Monarch, Odysseus, Pegasus, Persephone, Prometheus, Swordfish<br />
*The framed photo of President Roslin and [[Billy Keikeya]] was still on her desk during the election.<br />
*When Roslin "won" the rigged election results, Roslin received 24,265 votes, while Baltar recieved 22,266. This means that the elligible voters in the Fleet number 46,531. In the podcast, RDM explains that he quickly came up with these numbers, to try to reflect roughly how many survivors are below the voting age.<br />
*Toward the end of the episode, President Baltar refers to a government body called the "People's Council". This may be the proportionally elected lower house mentioned in by RDM in his [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/index.html#a000016 blog post] on January 30, 2005.<br />
*[[Hera]] is seen on New Caprica in the same white cradle that Baltar had a vision of her being in in "[[Scattered]]", etc. According to RDM's podcast it's actually the exact same cradle.<br />
*Tyrol's union speech is an almost word for word quote of Mario Savio's address during the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley in 1964. According to Ron Moore and David Eick in the podcast, they even got permission from Savio's widow to use it (even though, due to the way copyright laws work from back then, they could have just used it without permission, they felt they should get it). As a result, it's even listed in the credits: "Mario Savio speech excerpted courtesy of: Lynne Hollander Savio". Actor Aaron Douglas (Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]) actually studied film of Savio, so all of the hand gestures Tyrol makes when he gives the speech are gestures that Savio actually used.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Dr. Cottle decides Cally is ready to return to duty:''<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You're done here. I'm kickin' you out of here and sending you back to work.<br />
:'''Cally:''' (muffled, because her jaw is immobilized) Work??? Like this?<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You gotta love a woman who can complain even with her jaw wired shut.<br />
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*''The Cylons occupy New Caprica:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' "What do we do now, Captain?"<br />
:'''Starbuck:''' "Same thing we always do. Fight them until we can't."<br />
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*''Trying to bring order to a Union meeting:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' Everyone, please be quiet. (''crowd ignores him'')<br />
:'''Cally:''' Hey! Shut the frak up! (''crowd quiets down'')<br />
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*'''Admiral Adama:''' We're leaving. But we'll be back.<br />
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== Official Statements ==<br />
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From the official site (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/):<br />
When Baltar wins the vote, Roslin considers stealing the election because she believes he is a Cylon collaborator.<br />
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== Statistics ==<br />
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=== Guest Stars ===<br />
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0722413/ Donnelly Rhodes] as Dr. [[Cottle]]<br />
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Winston Rekert as Priest<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 20<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]])<br>[[Kate Vernon]] ([[Ellen Tigh]])<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] ([[Cavil|Brother Cavil]])<br />
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| Prev= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
| Next= TBA<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
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: ''Everything turns on its head as the survivors vote for a new president -- and vote for their fate.''<br />
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== Summary == <br />
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===On Caprica===<br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], the marines, and the [[resistance (movement)|resistance]] continue to take fire from Cylon centurions and artillery. They make their way up a hill, and hold their position.<br />
*The Cylons hold fire, and Sharon remarks that the Cylons will attempt to capture them with non-lethal weapons, such as gas.<br />
*Eighteen hours later, they emerge to find that the Cylons have disappeared. [[Cavil]] -- who suddenly appears behind them -- announces that the Cylons have left the Twelve Colonies and that humanity was spared.<br />
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===In the Fleet===<br />
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*[[Cally]] is cleared back to work by [[Cottle|Dr. Cottle]], despite having her jaw wired shut (which elicits a sexist observation from the doctor). [[Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] visits her, apologizing for the attack. Cally forgives him, saying that she's always cared for him.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar|Dr. Baltar]] continues to gain in the polls. On ''[[Colonial One]]'', Tory mentions there's always a victory plan. [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] later calls a private meeting with Dr. Baltar, asking to deliver a joint statement of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_%28verb%29 tabling] the issue of colonization until after the election, which Baltar rejects. <br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] returns to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', with the resistance fighters, much to the delight of Admiral Adama. She mentions the fact that the Cylons have left Caprica, and a man appearing to be Brother Cavill confirms it. He also says he has a message, but is attacked by Chief Tyrol, claiming he's a Cylon. Both Cavill and Caprica-Sharon are escorted to the brig under marine guard.<br />
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*The other Cavill (from last episode) is also taken to the brig, claiming he's not a Cylon, but changes his tune upon seeing his "brother", as he calls him. Both Cavills then talk about the fact that the “war heroes” (Caprica Six & ''Galactica''-Sharon) have talked about how the attack of the colonies and the pursuit of the fleet were mistakes. They were told to relay the message that man and Cylon will go their separate ways. Both Roslin and Admiral Adama are less than trusting regarding the message.<br />
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*Election Day has arrived and Baltar has an apparent five thousand-vote lead over Roslin with only a few ships left. On ''Colonial One'', Tory makes a call to ''Galactica'', putting a plan into action. <br />
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*Amazingly, Roslin initially appears to have retained the presidency. While most are celebrating, Lt. Gaeta makes a starting discovery regarding the votes, and informs the Admiral that Col. Tigh may be involved in a conspiracy to throw the election.<br />
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*Admiral Adama confronts Roslin regarding the conspiracy, saying he has a confession to rig the vote. Roslin admits her involvement and Adama is disappointed.<br />
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*Baltar is informed of his nomination as President. He's less than pleased, vowing to have full investigation in time. President-elect Baltar then orders a course for “New Caprica”.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar]] is sworn in as the new President of the Twelve Colonies, and orders the immediate colonization of New Caprica.<br />
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*''[[Cloud 9]]'' is destroyed by a nuclear blast, Gina being present before the explosion; in addition to the ''Cloud 9'', at least two other ships are destroyed in the blast. Admiral Adama reports to the president that this may be a Cylon attack, but Baltar ignores him and presses forward with colonization.<br />
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===One Year Later===<br />
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*[[Felix Gaeta|Mr. Gaeta]] is reporting to the President regarding a Union issue aboard Colonial One, now down on the planet. Baltar is upset, saying there have been no Cylon attacks but the people still complain. He has regressed, turning to alcohol, medication, and womanizing.<br />
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*Admiral Adama, now donning a mustache, is walking around a near-empty Galactica, the ship falling into disarray. Over half of the crew has moved down to the planet, and they are running on such a skeleton crew that they barely have enough pilots to fly training missions, much less a good CAP. Adama has a discussion with Tigh about going down to the planet, which Tigh reluctantly agrees to.<br />
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*[[Samuel Anders|Anders]], now Kara’s husband, is sick with pneumonia. Dr. Cottle is saying he can’t do much for him, saying there are no antibiotics available, but he is young and healthy, and with a little luck he "should" pull through.<br />
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*Kara runs into the Tighs as [[Tyrol]], now a union boss, is making a speech to begin a strike, a pregnant Cally by his side. Saul mentions that Pegasus keeps the backup medical supplies and that Apollo would spring some for Starbuck. Starbuck disagrees, which prompts Tigh to state that Apollo would be "over that by now".<br />
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*Roslin is doing what she does best, teaching the settlement's school, and manages to find enjoyment in her old position. [[Maya]] is with her, as is the now one year old [[Hera]], whom Maya has named "Isis". <br />
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*Kara calls Lee aboard Pegasus to requesting medication. Lee's gained a lot of weight in the past year. Dualla is now an officer, serving by Lee Adama's side in Pegasus' CIC. Before Lee can reply, Dualla catches something on [[DRADIS]]. <br />
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*A fleet of [[Cylon]] [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s arrive in orbit around New Caprica. The Adamas are having a discussion about what to do, when [[Helo]] asks if alert fighters should be launched. Admiral Adama keeps them in as the defense fleet jumps away.<br />
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*Mr. Gaeta informs the President of the Cylon approach. Later, before his assembled staff, copies of Number 5, 8, and 6 approach the President. The Cylons declare that as long as there’s no resistance, no harm will come. President Baltar declares surrender on behalf of the colonists, and as Cylon armies occupy the planet, Kara vows to resist.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
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*What "number" is Cavil?<br />
*Was Roslin's threat to put the two Cavils into space actually carried out?<br />
**Most likely not, she had the election on her mind, much to do, and didn't actually make it an order. Baltar would have been unlikely to vent them into space.<br />
*Where did the defense fleet jump to?<br />
**Likely a prearranged rendezvous point, similar to that of the miniseries.<br />
*Where is Caprica-Sharon?<br />
**Most likely, still in ''Galactica'''s brig. This is probably why Helo is still aboard ship, having taken a CIC officer's position.<br />
**In the podcast, Ron Moore vaguely hinted that they hadn't forgotten about Sharon, but that we'd have to "wait and see". Apparently, several of the early season 3 episodes will have flashbacks dealing with events that took place in the year that passed.<br />
*What happened to Zarek?<br />
*Why is Leoben looking for Starbuck, specifically?<br />
** Could it be the same [[Leoben Conoy]] that Starbuck interrogated in "[[Flesh and Bone]]"?<br />
*** As seen with ''Galactica''-Sharon, it is distinctly possible that that particular Leoben was lying when he said he'd actually die and not download. <br />
*Why has the population (until Tyrol's recent union speech) accepted Baltar's imperious rule? People were hardly so passive under Roslin. Indeed, Adama executed a military coup over a rather less important issue than giving a nuclear weapon to a Cylon agent.<br />
**Admiral Adama wasn't conclusive as to how the weapon got on board Cloud Nine.<br />
**Baltar pointed out there have been no attacks since he took office. Under Roslin the attacks were common. Perhaps for a year the people decided they preferred the safety Baltar gave them to their liberties.<br />
**They did vote them in, and perhaps the struggle of trying to survive on this planet is distracting their attention, i.e. at first they weren't sure how much to blame on Baltar, or on the simple struggle of trying to rebuild. Howevever, it hasn't been a particularly smooth or easy presidency, as shown by the recent Union strike.<br />
*Are the Six and Eight that Baltar surrendered to [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]]?<br />
**Judging from Six's reaction to Baltar, almost definitely.<br />
*Where did the Cylon fleets go, after they left the Twelve Colonies? Cavil was deliberately vague when asked if they simply returned to the [[Cylon homeworld]].<br />
*How many people died in the Cloud Nine explosion?<br />
**The Cloud Nine explosion also destroyed ships near it. Given the stated size of the New Caprica population along with subtracting the minimal crew sizes needed to maintain the ships in orbit, you can estimate that approximately 3000 to 5000 people died.<br />
***Actually, we have no idea how many people were still crewing the civilian ships in the Fleet when ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' jumped away, so it could actually have been thousands less than that.<br />
*When Gina-Six was instantly vaporized due to being only two feet from a nuclear detonation, did she still transmit her consciousness? Was she even capable of transmitting considering that any internal hardware responsible for this task would have been instantly destroyed?<br />
**They have already established that with the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed, Cylons in the fleet that are killed will ''actually'' die. Gina expressed suicidal impulses as early as "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]".<br />
**Additionally, since the Cylons found the planet due to the radiation, it is unlikely that Gina was resurrected, as she then would have told the Cylons the location of the planet.<br />
*Given Roslin's memories of Baltar with Six, why didn't Admiral Adama suspect Baltar of handing over the nuke to the cylons? If he did suspect him, why not act on it?<br />
**He had no real proof.<br />
*Did the events of "One Year Later" actually happen, or were they a dream or vision sequence given to Baltar?<br />
**Although Baltar has had elaborate visions in the past, this vision left Baltar's point of view several times, addressing issues such as the marriage of Kara to Sam Anders and Adama's friendship with Tigh that are of little knowledge or importance to Baltar.<br />
***Ron D. Moore has stated in interviews that the first 4-5 episodes of season 3 will deal with the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, and unless a vast swath of episodes is going to be a dream sequence, all of these "one year later" events ''really'' happen.<br />
***Moore actually discusses this in the podcast, saying that many people might just assume this is a dream, or a ''Dallas''-like season-erasing shower-dream episode, but he thought it was a bold decision to jump ahead a full year, and have all of it be definitely real.<br />
*Why was it so easy for Adama to hide the collusion of the rigged election from the press, and why were there no consequences?<br />
**So far as we know, Adama, Tigh, Gaeta, Dualla, Dualla's two associates, Tory, and Roslin are the only people that knew; 6 are military personnel, 4 of whom would be implicated, and the other 2 were directly involved civilians. All are strongly motivated to conceal the information.<br />
* Why would it take the Cylons over one year to find New Caprica, alerted by the nuclear detonation prior to the inhabitation of the planet?<br />
**It was stated in the previous episode that the interference from the gas cloud surrounding it would hide the planet fairly well. The Cylons were slightly over a light year away, according to the Number Five. Searching something as large as the gas cloud likely is for a planet or fleet is, given the sensor range limitations, quite impressive to accomplish in months, even with general directional information from a light-year out.<br />
***Actually with the Cylon base 1 light year away, it would take 1 year for the nuke to show up on the Cylon sensors. Short of some FTL communication system, that's the only way the Cylons would have been able to detect the planet. Since the fleet is all in within non-FTL distances, all the FTL devices, if any exist would likely have been destroyed or disabled. <br />
*If the Cylons really left the Twelve Colonies, leaving behind a nuked-out wasteland, what happened to all of the human captives in the [[Farms]]?<br />
**Has it really been established that all that remains of the colonies are nuked-out wastelands? Yes, it's clear that they were nuked from the mini-series, yet in more recent episodes, it's also clear that the Cylons have been rebuilding them, in particular Caprica. The comment is bizarre in that Admiral Adama would know this as well, given the return of Anders who no doubt gave a full account of his experiences.<br />
*Why have the Cylons returned? According to [[Cavil]], the two races were to go their "separate ways". The Cylons may have been worried about the humans retaliating at some point in the future, but the location of the Cylon world(s) is still unknown to the humans, so ensuring the safety of their society presumably isn't the motive behind the occupation of [[New Caprica]].<br />
**This assumes that the Cylons were being honest in their announcement of withdrawl from all Human contact and association. It is possible that this was a tactical feint and the Cylons went looking for possible alternate locations where the Humans could have resettled.<br />
*Did the Cavils lie about the pursuit of humanity being a mistake? Or were they telling the truth?<br />
** If they were telling the truth, perhaps not all Cylons are readily able to admit and rectify their mistakes as the Cavils believed.<br />
** It seems that the intent was truthful, given that Caprica-Six and Sharon are taking an active leadership role in this new occupation. What seems unclear is how their positions has changed from Downloaded, where they clearly felt that the Cylon destruction of humanity was wrong. This is especially so for Sharon, who still considered herself human. Why would she go along willingly with this new course of action of occupation and presumably other forms of experimentation.<br />
*Will the Cylons resume their pursuit of the Fleet?<br />
*How many people are left in the Fleet?<br />
**The population of New Caprica City is given as 39,192. There were just under 50,000 people in the Fleet before establishing the settlement, so that gives a figure of roughly 10,000, ignoring any births and deaths that have taken place during the year since the election. This almost certainly means that both ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' will be extremely short on crew, as many military personnel will have been left on the planet. There was clearly no time to retrieve even selected members of the crews before the Fleet jumped.<br />
***Will the Adamas resort to Cain's tactic of conscripting civilians to fill the gaps?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Baltar's arrogance seems to have led to corrupt rule during his year on New Caprica—he replaces Roslin's modest desk with a larger, elaborate one, replaces the population count whiteboard with a portrait of himself, and keeps a harem aboard the landed Colonial One.<br />
*After a whole year, everyone is still living in tents. There is a vital shortage of medicine, the military is of no use, and labor conditions are apparently intolerable. Baltar's administration is apparently as incompetent as Roslin feared. <br />
**It is not clear whether these conditions are the result of admimistrative incompetence or the inherent difficulties of colonizing a marginally habitable planet.<br />
***Of course, it was Baltar's idea to settle on a marginally habitable planet in the first place.<br />
*It's ironic that the obligations of duty keep Lee Adama aboard Pegasus while everyone else goes planetside—he is a reserve officer, and promised to build his pilots a bar as soon as they found a habitable planet.<br />
*Ron Moore has once again decided to play with viewer's expectations; in the podcast for "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]" Moore commented on how everyone assumed that ''Pegasus'' would be destroyed by the end of the episode, and thus he thought it would be a good twist to keep ''Pegasus'' alive as another ship in the Fleet. Here, many viewers assumed that the nuke that Baltar gave to Gina in "[[Epiphanies]]" would be used to destroy ''Pegasus'' this time, but it wasn't.<br />
*29 people died between this episode and the preceding one? One or two Raptors were lost, and some Marines died on Caprica, but that doesn't seem high enough.<br />
**Is it possible they took out all of the people who left in the raptors because they were not apart of the fleet at the end of the previous episode?<br />
***They didn't remove Starbuck from the count when she left for Caprica at the beginning of Season 2.<br />
**Maybe more people died during the attack on Caprica than was shown.<br />
*It seems odd that no mention was made of the casualties on the return from Caprica, just jubilant celebration?<br />
**Although they didn't actually talk about the losses, there was a shot of a wounded person being taken away on a stretcher.<br />
*A more reasonable explanation is that there was a late update in the survivor count that took into account those who died off-screen during the Cylon attack on the Pegasus in "[[The Captain's Hand]]". Soldiers who are killed are often listed as MIA (Missing in Action) until they can be confirmed as KIA (Killed in Action). In the aftermath of the attack on the Pegasus, it would have taken a while to determine the exact number of crewmen and pilots killed. Also, there were probably a number of crewmen who died from injuries afterwards. As a result, a delay in updating the survivor count is quite likely.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
* '''According to Ron Moore's podcast, although Scifi Channel was willing to air this episode as a 90-minute special, it had to be heavily edited down for international distribution; outside of the United States, viewers will only see a 1 hour version of the episode, which Moore regards as "almost incomprehensible".''' Many plot threads, such as the entire Cally/Tyrol subplot, were completely removed from the one hour version.<br />
* Ron Moore's podcast for episode 13, [[Epiphanies]], states that the Nuke given to Gina will come back in this episode, to the benefit of the Cylons.<br />
*In RDM's podcast for the previous episode, he said that in early drafts of this special 90 minute long episode, the writers actually tried to make it a 2 hour special, but this was soon dropped (these times are including commercials).<br />
*The election board appears to have a definitive list of the names of all of the ships in [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Not all of them are clearly visible, but this would seem to indicate that the writers do have an actual list that they get new ship names from. Ship names visible on the chart are: Demetrius, Diomedes, Embla Brokk, Enkidu, Epheme, Galactica, Gideon, Gemenon Traveller, Greenleaf, Monarch, Odysseus, Pegasus, Persephone, Prometheus, Swordfish<br />
*The framed photo of President Roslin and [[Billy Keikeya]] was still on her desk during the election.<br />
*When Roslin "won" the rigged election results, Roslin received 24,265 votes, while Baltar recieved 22,266. This means that the elligible voters in the Fleet number 46,531. In the podcast, RDM explains that he quickly came up with these numbers, to try to reflect roughly how many survivors are below the voting age.<br />
*Toward the end of the episode, President Baltar refers to a government body called the "People's Council". This may be the proportionally elected lower house mentioned in by RDM in his [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/index.html#a000016 blog post] on January 30, 2005.<br />
*[[Hera]] is seen on New Caprica in the same white cradle that Baltar had a vision of her being in in "[[Scattered]]", etc. According to RDM's podcast it's actually the exact same cradle.<br />
*Tyrol's union speech is an almost word for word quote of Mario Savio's address during the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley in 1964. According to Ron Moore and David Eick in the podcast, they even got permission from Savio's widow to use it (even though, due to the way copyright laws work from back then, they could have just used it without permission, they felt they should get it). As a result, it's even listed in the credits: "Mario Savio speech excerpted courtesy of: Lynne Hollander Savio". Actor Aaron Douglas (Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]) actually studied film of Savio, so all of the hand gestures Tyrol makes when he gives the speech are gestures that Savio actually used.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Dr. Cottle decides Cally is ready to return to duty:''<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You're done here. I'm kickin' you out of here and sending you back to work.<br />
:'''Cally:''' (muffled, because her jaw is immobilized) Work??? Like this?<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You gotta love a woman who can complain even with her jaw wired shut.<br />
<br />
*''The Cylons occupy New Caprica:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' "What do we do now, Captain?"<br />
:'''Starbuck:''' "Same thing we always do. Fight them until we can't."<br />
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*''Trying to bring order to a Union meeting:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' Everyone, please be quiet. (''crowd ignores him'')<br />
:'''Cally:''' Hey! Shut the frak up! (''crowd quiets down'')<br />
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*'''Admiral Adama:''' We're leaving. But we'll be back.<br />
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== Official Statements ==<br />
<br />
From the official site (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/):<br />
When Baltar wins the vote, Roslin considers stealing the election because she believes he is a Cylon collaborator.<br />
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== Statistics ==<br />
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=== Guest Stars ===<br />
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0722413/ Donnelly Rhodes] as Dr. [[Cottle]]<br />
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Winston Rekert as Priest<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 20<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]])<br>[[Kate Vernon]] ([[Ellen Tigh]])<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] ([[Cavil|Brother Cavil]])<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
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: ''Everything turns on its head as the survivors vote for a new president -- and vote for their fate.''<br />
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== Summary == <br />
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===On Caprica===<br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], the marines, and the [[resistance (movement)|resistance]] continue to take fire from Cylon centurions and artillery. They make their way up a hill, and hold their position.<br />
*The Cylons hold fire, and Sharon remarks that the Cylons will attempt to capture them with non-lethal weapons, such as gas.<br />
*Eighteen hours later, they emerge to find that the Cylons have disappeared. [[Cavil]] -- who suddenly appears behind them -- announces that the Cylons have left the Twelve Colonies and that humanity was spared.<br />
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===In the Fleet===<br />
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*[[Cally]] is cleared back to work by [[Cottle|Dr. Cottle]], despite having her jaw wired shut (which elicits a sexist observation from the doctor). [[Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] visits her, apologizing for the attack. Cally forgives him, saying that she's always cared for him.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar|Dr. Baltar]] continues to gain in the polls. On ''[[Colonial One]]'', Tory mentions there's always a victory plan. [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] later calls a private meeting with Dr. Baltar, asking to deliver a joint statement of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_%28verb%29 tabling] the issue of colonization until after the election, which Baltar rejects. <br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] returns to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', with the resistance fighters, much to the delight of Admiral Adama. She mentions the fact that the Cylons have left Caprica, and a man appearing to be Brother Cavill confirms it. He also says he has a message, but is attacked by Chief Tyrol, claiming he's a Cylon. Both Cavill and Caprica-Sharon are escorted to the brig under marine guard.<br />
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*The other Cavill (from last episode) is also taken to the brig, claiming he's not a Cylon, but changes his tune upon seeing his "brother", as he calls him. Both Cavills then talk about the fact that the “war heroes” (Caprica Six & ''Galactica''-Sharon) have talked about how the attack of the colonies and the pursuit of the fleet were mistakes. They were told to relay the message that man and Cylon will go their separate ways. Both Roslin and Admiral Adama are less than trusting regarding the message.<br />
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*Election Day has arrived and Baltar has an apparent five thousand-vote lead over Roslin with only a few ships left. On ''Colonial One'', Tory makes a call to ''Galactica'', putting a plan into action. <br />
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*Amazingly, Roslin initially appears to have retained the presidency. While most are celebrating, Lt. Gaeta makes a starting discovery regarding the votes, and informs the Admiral that Col. Tigh may be involved in a conspiracy to throw the election.<br />
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*Admiral Adama confronts Roslin regarding the conspiracy, saying he has a confession to rig the vote. Roslin admits her involvement and Adama is disappointed.<br />
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*Baltar is informed of his nomination as President. He's less than pleased, vowing to have full investigation in time. President-elect Baltar then orders a course for “New Caprica”.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar]] is sworn in as the new President of the Twelve Colonies, and orders the immediate colonization of New Caprica.<br />
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*''[[Cloud 9]]'' is destroyed by a nuclear blast, Gina being present before the explosion; in addition to the ''Cloud 9'', at least two other ships are destroyed in the blast. Admiral Adama reports to the president that this may be a Cylon attack, but Baltar ignores him and presses forward with colonization.<br />
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===One Year Later===<br />
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*[[Felix Gaeta|Mr. Gaeta]] is reporting to the President regarding a Union issue aboard Colonial One, now down on the planet. Baltar is upset, saying there have been no Cylon attacks but the people still complain. He has regressed, turning to alcohol, medication, and womanizing.<br />
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*Admiral Adama, now donning a mustache, is walking around a near-empty Galactica, the ship falling into disarray. Over half of the crew has moved down to the planet, and they are running on such a skeleton crew that they barely have enough pilots to fly training missions, much less a good CAP. Adama has a discussion with Tigh about going down to the planet, which Tigh reluctantly agrees to.<br />
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*[[Samuel Anders|Anders]], now Kara’s husband, is sick with pneumonia. Dr. Cottle is saying he can’t do much for him, saying there are no antibiotics available, but he is young and healthy, and with a little luck he "should" pull through.<br />
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*Kara runs into the Tighs as [[Tyrol]], now a union boss, is making a speech to begin a strike, a pregnant Cally by his side. Saul mentions that Pegasus keeps the backup medical supplies and that Apollo would spring some for Starbuck. Starbuck disagrees, which prompts Tigh to state that Apollo would be "over that by now".<br />
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*Roslin is doing what she does best, teaching the settlement's school, and manages to find enjoyment in her old position. [[Maya]] is with her, as is the now one year old [[Hera]], whom Maya has named "Isis". <br />
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*Kara calls Lee aboard Pegasus to requesting medication. Lee's gained a lot of weight in the past year. Dualla is now an officer, serving by Lee Adama's side in Pegasus' CIC. Before Lee can reply, Dualla catches something on [[DRADIS]]. <br />
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*A fleet of [[Cylon]] [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s arrive in orbit around New Caprica. The Adamas are having a discussion about what to do, when [[Helo]] asks if alert fighters should be launched. Admiral Adama keeps them in as the defense fleet jumps away.<br />
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*Mr. Gaeta informs the President of the Cylon approach. Later, before his assembled staff, copies of Number 5, 8, and 6 approach the President. The Cylons declare that as long as there’s no resistance, no harm will come. President Baltar declares surrender on behalf of the colonists, and as Cylon armies occupy the planet, Kara vows to resist.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
<br />
*What "number" is Cavil?<br />
*Was Roslin's threat to put the two Cavils into space actually carried out?<br />
**Most likely not, she had the election on her mind, much to do, and didn't actually make it an order. Baltar would have been unlikely to vent them into space.<br />
*Where did the defense fleet jump to?<br />
**Likely a prearranged rendezvous point, similar to that of the miniseries.<br />
*Where is Caprica-Sharon?<br />
**Most likely, still in ''Galactica'''s brig. This is probably why Helo is still aboard ship, having taken a CIC officer's position.<br />
**In the podcast, Ron Moore vaguely hinted that they hadn't forgotten about Sharon, but that we'd have to "wait and see". Apparently, several of the early season 3 episodes will have flashbacks dealing with events that took place in the year that passed.<br />
*What happened to Zarek?<br />
*Why is Leoben looking for Starbuck, specifically?<br />
** Could it be the same [[Leoben Conoy]] that Starbuck interrogated in "[[Flesh and Bone]]"?<br />
*** As seen with ''Galactica''-Sharon, it is distinctly possible that that particular Leoben was lying when he said he'd actually die and not download. <br />
*Why has the population (until Tyrol's recent union speech) accepted Baltar's imperious rule? People were hardly so passive under Roslin. Indeed, Adama executed a military coup over a rather less important issue than giving a nuclear weapon to a Cylon agent.<br />
**Admiral Adama wasn't conclusive as to how the weapon got on board Cloud Nine.<br />
**Baltar pointed out there have been no attacks since he took office. Under Roslin the attacks were common. Perhaps for a year the people decided they preferred the safety Baltar gave them to their liberties.<br />
**They did vote them in, and perhaps the struggle of trying to survive on this planet is distracting their attention, i.e. at first they weren't sure how much to blame on Baltar, or on the simple struggle of trying to rebuild. Howevever, it hasn't been a particularly smooth or easy presidency, as shown by the recent Union strike.<br />
*Are the Six and Eight that Baltar surrendered to [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]]?<br />
**Judging from Six's reaction to Baltar, almost definitely.<br />
*Where did the Cylon fleets go, after they left the Twelve Colonies? Cavil was deliberately vague when asked if they simply returned to the [[Cylon homeworld]].<br />
*How many people died in the Cloud Nine explosion?<br />
**The Cloud Nine explosion also destroyed ships near it. Given the stated size of the New Caprica population along with subtracting the minimal crew sizes needed to maintain the ships in orbit, you can estimate that approximately 3000 to 5000 people died.<br />
***Actually, we have no idea how many people were still crewing the civilian ships in the Fleet when ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' jumped away, so it could actually have been thousands less than that.<br />
*When Gina-Six was instantly vaporized due to being only two feet from a nuclear detonation, did she still transmit her consciousness? Was she even capable of transmitting considering that any internal hardware responsible for this task would have been instantly destroyed?<br />
**They have already established that with the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed, Cylons in the fleet that are killed will ''actually'' die. Gina expressed suicidal impulses as early as "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]".<br />
**Additionally, since the Cylons found the planet due to the radiation, it is unlikely that Gina was resurrected, as she then would have told the Cylons the location of the planet.<br />
*Given Roslin's memories of Baltar with Six, why didn't Admiral Adama suspect Baltar of handing over the nuke to the cylons? If he did suspect him, why not act on it?<br />
**He had no real proof.<br />
*Did the events of "One Year Later" actually happen, or were they a dream or vision sequence given to Baltar?<br />
**Although Baltar has had elaborate visions in the past, this vision left Baltar's point of view several times, addressing issues such as the marriage of Kara to Sam Anders and Adama's friendship with Tigh that are of little knowledge or importance to Baltar.<br />
***Ron D. Moore has stated in interviews that the first 4-5 episodes of season 3 will deal with the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, and unless a vast swath of episodes is going to be a dream sequence, all of these "one year later" events ''really'' happen.<br />
***Moore actually discusses this in the podcast, saying that many people might just assume this is a dream, or a ''Dallas''-like season-erasing shower-dream episode, but he thought it was a bold decision to jump ahead a full year, and have all of it be definitely real.<br />
*Why was it so easy for Adama to hide the collusion of the rigged election from the press, and why were there no consequences?<br />
**So far as we know, Adama, Tigh, Gaeta, Dualla, Dualla's two associates, Tory, and Roslin are the only people that knew; 6 are military personnel, 4 of whom would be implicated, and the other 2 were directly involved civilians. All are strongly motivated to conceal the information.<br />
* Why would it take the Cylons over one year to find New Caprica, alerted by the nuclear detonation prior to the inhabitation of the planet?<br />
**It was stated in the previous episode that the interference from the gas cloud surrounding it would hide the planet fairly well. The Cylons were slightly over a light year away, according to the Number Five. Searching something as large as the gas cloud likely is for a planet or fleet is, given the sensor range limitations, quite impressive to accomplish in months, even with general directional information from a light-year out.<br />
***Actually with the Cylon base 1 light year away, it would take 1 year for the nuke to show up on the Cylon sensors. Short of some FTL communication system, that's the only way the Cylons would have been able to detect the planet. Since the fleet is all in within non-FTL distances, all the FTL devices, if any exist would likely have been destroyed or disabled. <br />
*If the Cylons really left the Twelve Colonies, leaving behind a nuked-out wasteland, what happened to all of the human captives in the [[Farms]]?<br />
**Has it really been established that all that remains of the colonies are nuked-out wastelands? Yes, it's clear that they were nuked from the mini-series, yet in more recent episodes, it's also clear that the Cylons have been rebuilding them, in particular Caprica. The comment is bizarre in that Admiral Adama would know this as well, given the return of Anders who no doubt gave a full account of his experiences.<br />
*Why have the Cylons returned? According to [[Cavil]], the two races were to go their "separate ways". The Cylons may have been worried about the humans retaliating at some point in the future, but the location of the Cylon world(s) is still unknown to the humans, so ensuring the safety of their society presumably isn't the motive behind the occupation of [[New Caprica]].<br />
**This assumes that the Cylons were being honest in their announcement of withdrawl from all Human contact and association. It is possible that this was a tactical feint and the Cylons went looking for possible alternate locations where the Humans could have resettled.<br />
*Did the Cavils lie about the pursuit of humanity being a mistake? Or were they telling the truth?<br />
** If they were telling the truth, perhaps not all Cylons are readily able to admit and rectify their mistakes as the Cavils believed.<br />
** It seems that the intent was truthful, given that Caprica-Six and Sharon are taking an active leadership role in this new occupation. What seems unclear is how their positions has changed from Downloaded, where they clearly felt that the Cylon destruction of humanity was wrong. This is especially so for Sharon, who still considered herself human. Why would she go along willingly with this new course of action of occupation and presumably other forms of experimentation.<br />
*Will the Cylons resume their pursuit of the Fleet?<br />
*How many people are left in the Fleet?<br />
**The population of New Caprica City is given as 39,192. There were just under 50,000 people in the Fleet before establishing the settlement, so that gives a figure of roughly 10,000, ignoring any births and deaths that have taken place during the year since the election. This almost certainly means that both ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' will be extremely short on crew, as many military personnel will have been left on the planet. There was clearly no time to retrieve even selected members of the crews before the Fleet jumped.<br />
***Will the Adamas resort to Cain's tactic of conscripting civilians to fill the gaps?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Baltar's arrogance seems to have led to corrupt rule during his year on New Caprica—he replaces Roslin's modest desk with a larger, elaborate one, replaces the population count whiteboard with a portrait of himself, and keeps a harem aboard the landed Colonial One.<br />
*After a whole year, everyone is still living in tents. There is a vital shortage of medicine, the military is of no use, and labor conditions are apparently intolerable. Baltar's administration is apparently as incompetent as Roslin feared. <br />
**It is not clear whether these conditions are the result of admimistrative incompetence or the inherent difficulties of colonizing a marginally habitable planet.<br />
***Of course, it was Baltar's idea to settle on a marginally habitable planet in the first place.<br />
*It's ironic that the obligations of duty keep Lee Adama aboard Pegasus while everyone else goes planetside—he is a reserve officer, and promised to build his pilots a bar as soon as they found a habitable planet.<br />
*Ron Moore has once again decided to play with viewer's expectations; in the podcast for "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]" Moore commented on how everyone assumed that ''Pegasus'' would be destroyed by the end of the episode, and thus he thought it would be a good twist to keep ''Pegasus'' alive as another ship in the Fleet. Here, many viewers assumed that the nuke that Baltar gave to Gina in "[[Epiphanies]]" would be used to destroy ''Pegasus'' this time, but it wasn't.<br />
*29 people died between this episode and the preceding one? One or two Raptors were lost, and some Marines died on Caprica, but that doesn't seem high enough.<br />
**Is it possible they took out all of the people who left in the raptors because they were not apart of the fleet at the end of the previous episode?<br />
***They didn't remove Starbuck from the count when she left for Caprica at the beginning of Season 2.<br />
**Maybe people died during the attack on Caprica.<br />
*It seems odd that no mention was made of the casualties on the return from Caprica, just jubilant celebration?<br />
**Although they didn't actually talk about the losses, there was a shot of a wounded person being taken away on a stretcher.<br />
*A more reasonable explanation is that there was a late update in the survivor count that took into account those who died off-screen during the Cylon attack on the Pegasus in "[[The Captain's Hand]]". Soldiers who are killed are often listed as MIA (Missing in Action) until they can be confirmed as KIA (Killed in Action). In the aftermath of the attack on the Pegasus, it would have taken a while to determine the exact number of crewmen and pilots killed. Also, there were probably a number of crewmen who died from injuries afterwards. As a result, a delay in updating the survivor count is quite likely.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
* '''According to Ron Moore's podcast, although Scifi Channel was willing to air this episode as a 90-minute special, it had to be heavily edited down for international distribution; outside of the United States, viewers will only see a 1 hour version of the episode, which Moore regards as "almost incomprehensible".''' Many plot threads, such as the entire Cally/Tyrol subplot, were completely removed from the one hour version.<br />
* Ron Moore's podcast for episode 13, [[Epiphanies]], states that the Nuke given to Gina will come back in this episode, to the benefit of the Cylons.<br />
*In RDM's podcast for the previous episode, he said that in early drafts of this special 90 minute long episode, the writers actually tried to make it a 2 hour special, but this was soon dropped (these times are including commercials).<br />
*The election board appears to have a definitive list of the names of all of the ships in [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Not all of them are clearly visible, but this would seem to indicate that the writers do have an actual list that they get new ship names from. Ship names visible on the chart are: Demetrius, Diomedes, Embla Brokk, Enkidu, Epheme, Galactica, Gideon, Gemenon Traveller, Greenleaf, Monarch, Odysseus, Pegasus, Persephone, Prometheus, Swordfish<br />
*The framed photo of President Roslin and [[Billy Keikeya]] was still on her desk during the election.<br />
*When Roslin "won" the rigged election results, Roslin received 24,265 votes, while Baltar recieved 22,266. This means that the elligible voters in the Fleet number 46,531. In the podcast, RDM explains that he quickly came up with these numbers, to try to reflect roughly how many survivors are below the voting age.<br />
*Toward the end of the episode, President Baltar refers to a government body called the "People's Council". This may be the proportionally elected lower house mentioned in by RDM in his [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/index.html#a000016 blog post] on January 30, 2005.<br />
*[[Hera]] is seen on New Caprica in the same white cradle that Baltar had a vision of her being in in "[[Scattered]]", etc. According to RDM's podcast it's actually the exact same cradle.<br />
*Tyrol's union speech is an almost word for word quote of Mario Savio's address during the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley in 1964. According to Ron Moore and David Eick in the podcast, they even got permission from Savio's widow to use it (even though, due to the way copyright laws work from back then, they could have just used it without permission, they felt they should get it). As a result, it's even listed in the credits: "Mario Savio speech excerpted courtesy of: Lynne Hollander Savio". Actor Aaron Douglas (Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]) actually studied film of Savio, so all of the hand gestures Tyrol makes when he gives the speech are gestures that Savio actually used.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Dr. Cottle decides Cally is ready to return to duty:''<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You're done here. I'm kickin' you out of here and sending you back to work.<br />
:'''Cally:''' (muffled, because her jaw is immobilized) Work??? Like this?<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You gotta love a woman who can complain even with her jaw wired shut.<br />
<br />
*''The Cylons occupy New Caprica:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' "What do we do now, Captain?"<br />
:'''Starbuck:''' "Same thing we always do. Fight them until we can't."<br />
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*''Trying to bring order to a Union meeting:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' Everyone, please be quiet. (''crowd ignores him'')<br />
:'''Cally:''' Hey! Shut the frak up! (''crowd quiets down'')<br />
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*'''Admiral Adama:''' We're leaving. But we'll be back.<br />
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== Official Statements ==<br />
<br />
From the official site (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/):<br />
When Baltar wins the vote, Roslin considers stealing the election because she believes he is a Cylon collaborator.<br />
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== Statistics ==<br />
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=== Guest Stars ===<br />
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0722413/ Donnelly Rhodes] as Dr. [[Cottle]]<br />
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Winston Rekert as Priest<br />
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*Airdate Order: 20 (of 20)<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 20<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]])<br>[[Kate Vernon]] ([[Ellen Tigh]])<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] ([[Cavil|Brother Cavil]])<br />
| Writer=[[IMDB:nm1093194|Anne Cofell Saunders]], [[IMDB:nm0894156|Mark Verheiden]]<br />
| Story= <br />
| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
| Production=<br />
| Rating=<br />
| US Airdate= March 10, 2006<br />
| UK Airdate=<br />
| DVD=<br />
| Population= 49,550<br />
| Prev= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
| Next= TBA<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
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: ''Everything turns on its head as the survivors vote for a new president -- and vote for their fate.''<br />
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== Summary == <br />
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===On Caprica===<br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], the marines, and the [[resistance (movement)|resistance]] continue to take fire from Cylon centurions and artillery. They make their way up a hill, and hold their position.<br />
*The Cylons hold fire, and Sharon remarks that the Cylons will attempt to capture them with non-lethal weapons, such as gas.<br />
*Eighteen hours later, they emerge to find that the Cylons have disappeared. [[Cavil]] -- who suddenly appears behind them -- announces that the Cylons have left the Twelve Colonies and that humanity was spared.<br />
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===In the Fleet===<br />
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*[[Cally]] is cleared back to work by [[Cottle|Dr. Cottle]], despite having her jaw wired shut (which elicits a sexist observation from the doctor). [[Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] visits her, apologizing for the attack. Cally forgives him, saying that she's always cared for him.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar|Dr. Baltar]] continues to gain in the polls. On ''[[Colonial One]]'', Tory mentions there's always a victory plan. [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] later calls a private meeting with Dr. Baltar, asking to deliver a joint statement of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_%28verb%29 tabling] the issue of colonization until after the election, which Baltar rejects. <br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] returns to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', with the resistance fighters, much to the delight of Admiral Adama. She mentions the fact that the Cylons have left Caprica, and a man appearing to be Brother Cavill confirms it. He also says he has a message, but is attacked by Chief Tyrol, claiming he's a Cylon. Both Cavill and Caprica-Sharon are escorted to the brig under marine guard.<br />
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*The other Cavill (from last episode) is also taken to the brig, claiming he's not a Cylon, but changes his tune upon seeing his "brother", as he calls him. Both Cavills then talk about the fact that the “war heroes” (Caprica Six & ''Galactica''-Sharon) have talked about how the attack of the colonies and the pursuit of the fleet were mistakes. They were told to relay the message that man and Cylon will go their separate ways. Both Roslin and Admiral Adama are less than trusting regarding the message.<br />
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*Election Day has arrived and Baltar has an apparent five thousand-vote lead over Roslin with only a few ships left. On ''Colonial One'', Tory makes a call to ''Galactica'', putting a plan into action. <br />
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*Amazingly, Roslin initially appears to have retained the presidency. While most are celebrating, Lt. Gaeta makes a starting discovery regarding the votes, and informs the Admiral that Col. Tigh may be involved in a conspiracy to throw the election.<br />
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*Admiral Adama confronts Roslin regarding the conspiracy, saying he has a confession to rig the vote. Roslin admits her involvement and Adama is disappointed.<br />
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*Baltar is informed of his nomination as President. He's less than pleased, vowing to have full investigation in time. President-elect Baltar then orders a course for “New Caprica”.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar]] is sworn in as the new President of the Twelve Colonies, and orders the immediate colonization of New Caprica.<br />
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*''[[Cloud 9]]'' is destroyed by a nuclear blast, Gina being present before the explosion; in addition to the ''Cloud 9'', at least two other ships are destroyed in the blast. Admiral Adama reports to the president that this may be a Cylon attack, but Baltar ignores him and presses forward with colonization.<br />
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===One Year Later===<br />
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*[[Felix Gaeta|Mr. Gaeta]] is reporting to the President regarding a Union issue aboard Colonial One, now down on the planet. Baltar is upset, saying there have been no Cylon attacks but the people still complain. He has regressed, turning to alcohol, medication, and womanizing.<br />
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*Admiral Adama, now donning a mustache, is walking around a near-empty Galactica, the ship falling into disarray. Over half of the crew has moved down to the planet, and they are running on such a skeleton crew that they barely have enough pilots to fly training missions, much less a good CAP. Adama has a discussion with Tigh about going down to the planet, which Tigh reluctantly agrees to.<br />
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*[[Samuel Anders|Anders]], now Kara’s husband, is sick with pneumonia. Dr. Cottle is saying he can’t do much for him, saying there are no antibiotics available, but he is young and healthy, and with a little luck he "should" pull through.<br />
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*Kara runs into the Tighs as [[Tyrol]], now a union boss, is making a speech to begin a strike, a pregnant Cally by his side. Saul mentions that Pegasus keeps the backup medical supplies and that Apollo would spring some for Starbuck. Starbuck disagrees, which prompts Tigh to state that Apollo would be "over that by now".<br />
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*Roslin is doing what she does best, teaching the settlement's school, and manages to find enjoyment in her old position. [[Maya]] is with her, as is the now one year old [[Hera]], whom Maya has named "Isis". <br />
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*Kara calls Lee aboard Pegasus to requesting medication. Lee's gained a lot of weight in the past year. Dualla is now an officer, serving by Lee Adama's side in Pegasus' CIC. Before Lee can reply, Dualla catches something on [[DRADIS]]. <br />
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*A fleet of [[Cylon]] [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s arrive in orbit around New Caprica. The Adamas are having a discussion about what to do, when [[Helo]] asks if alert fighters should be launched. Admiral Adama keeps them in as the defense fleet jumps away.<br />
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*Mr. Gaeta informs the President of the Cylon approach. Later, before his assembled staff, copies of Number 5, 8, and 6 approach the President. The Cylons declare that as long as there’s no resistance, no harm will come. President Baltar declares surrender on behalf of the colonists, and as Cylon armies occupy the planet, Kara vows to resist.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
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*What "number" is Cavil?<br />
*Was Roslin's threat to put the two Cavils into space actually carried out?<br />
**Most likely not, she had the election on her mind, much to do, and didn't actually make it an order. Baltar would have been unlikely to vent them into space.<br />
*Where did the defense fleet jump to?<br />
**Likely a prearranged rendezvous point, similar to that of the miniseries.<br />
*Where is Caprica-Sharon?<br />
**Most likely, still in ''Galactica'''s brig. This is probably why Helo is still aboard ship, having taken a CIC officer's position.<br />
**In the podcast, Ron Moore vaguely hinted that they hadn't forgotten about Sharon, but that we'd have to "wait and see". Apparently, several of the early season 3 episodes will have flashbacks dealing with events that took place in the year that passed.<br />
*What happened to Zarek?<br />
*Why is Leoben looking for Starbuck, specifically?<br />
** Could it be the same [[Leoben Conoy]] that Starbuck interrogated in "[[Flesh and Bone]]"?<br />
*** As seen with ''Galactica''-Sharon, it is distinctly possible that that particular Leoben was lying when he said he'd actually die and not download. <br />
*Why has the population (until Tyrol's recent union speech) accepted Baltar's imperious rule? People were hardly so passive under Roslin. Indeed, Adama executed a military coup over a rather less important issue than giving a nuclear weapon to a Cylon agent.<br />
**Admiral Adama wasn't conclusive as to how the weapon got on board Cloud Nine.<br />
**Baltar pointed out there have been no attacks since he took office. Under Roslin the attacks were common. Perhaps for a year the people decided they preferred the safety Baltar gave them to their liberties.<br />
**They did vote them in, and perhaps the struggle of trying to survive on this planet is distracting their attention, i.e. at first they weren't sure how much to blame on Baltar, or on the simple struggle of trying to rebuild. Howevever, it hasn't been a particularly smooth or easy presidency, as shown by the recent Union strike.<br />
*Are the Six and Eight that Baltar surrendered to [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]]?<br />
**Judging from Six's reaction to Baltar, almost definitely.<br />
*Where did the Cylon fleets go, after they left the Twelve Colonies? Cavil was deliberately vague when asked if they simply returned to the [[Cylon homeworld]].<br />
*How many people died in the Cloud Nine explosion?<br />
**The Cloud Nine explosion also destroyed ships near it. Given the stated size of the New Caprica population along with subtracting the minimal crew sizes needed to maintain the ships in orbit, you can estimate that approximately 3000 to 5000 people died.<br />
***Actually, we have no idea how many people were still crewing the civilian ships in the Fleet when ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' jumped away, so it could actually have been thousands less than that.<br />
*When Gina-Six was instantly vaporized due to being only two feet from a nuclear detonation, did she still transmit her consciousness? Was she even capable of transmitting considering that any internal hardware responsible for this task would have been instantly destroyed?<br />
**They have already established that with the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed, Cylons in the fleet that are killed will ''actually'' die. Gina expressed suicidal impulses as early as "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]".<br />
**Additionally, since the Cylons found the planet due to the radiation, it is unlikely that Gina was resurrected, as she then would have told the Cylons the location of the planet.<br />
*Given Roslin's memories of Baltar with Six, why didn't Admiral Adama suspect Baltar of handing over the nuke to the cylons? If he did suspect him, why not act on it?<br />
**He had no real proof.<br />
*Did the events of "One Year Later" actually happen, or were they a dream or vision sequence given to Baltar?<br />
**Although Baltar has had elaborate visions in the past, this vision left Baltar's point of view several times, addressing issues such as the marriage of Kara to Sam Anders and Adama's friendship with Tigh that are of little knowledge or importance to Baltar.<br />
***Ron D. Moore has stated in interviews that the first 4-5 episodes of season 3 will deal with the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, and unless a vast swath of episodes is going to be a dream sequence, all of these "one year later" events ''really'' happen.<br />
***Moore actually discusses this in the podcast, saying that many people might just assume this is a dream, or a ''Dallas''-like season-erasing shower-dream episode, but he thought it was a bold decision to jump ahead a full year, and have all of it be definitely real.<br />
*Why was it so easy for Adama to hide the collusion of the rigged election from the press, and why were there no consequences?<br />
**So far as we know, Adama, Tigh, Gaeta, Dualla, Dualla's two associates, Tory, and Roslin are the only people that knew; 6 are military personnel, 4 of whom would be implicated, and the other 2 were directly involved civilians. All are strongly motivated to conceal the information.<br />
* Why would it take the Cylons over one year to find New Caprica, alerted by the nuclear detonation prior to the inhabitation of the planet?<br />
**It was stated in the previous episode that the interference from the gas cloud surrounding it would hide the planet fairly well. The Cylons were slightly over a light year away, according to the Number Five. Searching something as large as the gas cloud likely is for a planet or fleet is, given the sensor range limitations, quite impressive to accomplish in months, even with general directional information from a light-year out.<br />
***Actually with the Cylon base 1 light year away, it would take 1 year for the nuke to show up on the Cylon sensors. Short of some FTL communication system, that's the only way the Cylons would have been able to detect the planet. Since the fleet is all in within non-FTL distances, all the FTL devices, if any exist would likely have been destroyed or disabled. <br />
*If the Cylons really left the Twelve Colonies, leaving behind a nuked-out wasteland, what happened to all of the human captives in the [[Farms]]?<br />
**Has it really been established that all that remains of the colonies are nuked-out wastelands? Yes, it's clear that they were nuked from the mini-series, yet in more recent episodes, it's also clear that the Cylons have been rebuilding them, in particular Caprica. The comment is bizarre in that Admiral Adama would know this as well, given the return of Anders who no doubt gave a full account of his experiences.<br />
*Why have the Cylons returned? According to [[Cavil]], the two races were to go their "separate ways". The Cylons may have been worried about the humans retaliating at some point in the future, but the location of the Cylon world(s) is still unknown to the humans, so ensuring the safety of their society presumably isn't the motive behind the occupation of [[New Caprica]].<br />
**This assumes that the Cylons were being honest in their announcement of withdrawl from all Human contact and association. It is possible that this was a tactical feint and the Cylons went looking for possible alternate locations where the Humans could have resettled.<br />
*Did the Cavils lie about the pursuit of humanity being a mistake? Or were they telling the truth?<br />
** If they were telling the truth, perhaps not all Cylons are readily able to admit and rectify their mistakes as the Cavils believed.<br />
** It seems that the intent was truthful, given that Caprica-Six and Sharon are taking an active leadership role in this new occupation. What seems unclear is how their positions has changed from Downloaded, where they clearly felt that the Cylon destruction of humanity was wrong. This is especially so for Sharon, who still considered herself human. Why would she go along willingly with this new course of action of occupation and presumably other forms of experimentation.<br />
*Will the Cylons resume their pursuit of the Fleet?<br />
*How many people are left in the Fleet?<br />
**The population of New Caprica City is given as 39,192. There were just under 50,000 people in the Fleet before establishing the settlement, so that gives a figure of roughly 10,000, ignoring any births and deaths that have taken place during the year since the election. This almost certainly means that both ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' will be extremely short on crew, as many military personnel will have been left on the planet. There was clearly no time to retrieve even selected members of the crews before the Fleet jumped.<br />
***Will the Adamas resort to Cain's tactic of conscripting civilians to fill the gaps?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Baltar's arrogance seems to have led to corrupt rule during his year on New Caprica—he replaces Roslin's modest desk with a larger, elaborate one, replaces the population count whiteboard with a portrait of himself, and keeps a harem aboard the landed Colonial One.<br />
*After a whole year, everyone is still living in tents. There is a vital shortage of medicine, the military is of no use, and labor conditions are apparently intolerable. Baltar's administration is apparently as incompetent as Roslin feared. <br />
**It is not clear whether these conditions are the result of admimistrative incompetence or the inherent difficulties of colonizing a marginally habitable planet.<br />
***Of course, it was Baltar's idea to settle on a marginally habitable planet in the first place.<br />
*It's ironic that the obligations of duty keep Lee Adama aboard Pegasus while everyone else goes planetside—he is a reserve officer, and promised to build his pilots a bar as soon as they found a habitable planet.<br />
*Ron Moore has once again decided to play with viewer's expectations; in the podcast for "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]" Moore commented on how everyone assumed that ''Pegasus'' would be destroyed by the end of the episode, and thus he thought it would be a good twist to keep ''Pegasus'' alive as another ship in the Fleet. Here, many viewers assumed that the nuke that Baltar gave to Gina in "[[Epiphanies]]" would be used to destroy ''Pegasus'' this time, but it wasn't.<br />
*29 people died between this episode and the preceding one? One or two Raptors were lost, and some Marines died on Caprica, but that doesn't seem high enough.<br />
**Is it possible they took out all of the people who left in the raptors because they were not apart of the fleet at the end of the previous episode?<br />
***They didn't remove Starbuck from the count when she left for Caprica at the beginning of Season 2.<br />
**Maybe 29 people died during the attack on Caprica.<br />
*It seems odd that no mention was made of the casualties on the return from Caprica, just jubilant celebration?<br />
**Although they didn't actually talk about the losses, there was a shot of a wounded person being taken away on a stretcher.<br />
*A more reasonable explanation is that there was a late update in the survivor count that took into account those who died off-screen during the Cylon attack on the Pegasus in "[[The Captain's Hand]]". Soldiers who are killed are often listed as MIA (Missing in Action) until they can be confirmed as KIA (Killed in Action). In the aftermath of the attack on the Pegasus, it would have taken a while to determine the exact number of crewmen and pilots killed. Also, there were probably a number of crewmen who died from injuries afterwards. As a result, a delay in updating the survivor count is quite likely.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
* '''According to Ron Moore's podcast, although Scifi Channel was willing to air this episode as a 90-minute special, it had to be heavily edited down for international distribution; outside of the United States, viewers will only see a 1 hour version of the episode, which Moore regards as "almost incomprehensible".''' Many plot threads, such as the entire Cally/Tyrol subplot, were completely removed from the one hour version.<br />
* Ron Moore's podcast for episode 13, [[Epiphanies]], states that the Nuke given to Gina will come back in this episode, to the benefit of the Cylons.<br />
*In RDM's podcast for the previous episode, he said that in early drafts of this special 90 minute long episode, the writers actually tried to make it a 2 hour special, but this was soon dropped (these times are including commercials).<br />
*The election board appears to have a definitive list of the names of all of the ships in [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Not all of them are clearly visible, but this would seem to indicate that the writers do have an actual list that they get new ship names from. Ship names visible on the chart are: Demetrius, Diomedes, Embla Brokk, Enkidu, Epheme, Galactica, Gideon, Gemenon Traveller, Greenleaf, Monarch, Odysseus, Pegasus, Persephone, Prometheus, Swordfish<br />
*The framed photo of President Roslin and [[Billy Keikeya]] was still on her desk during the election.<br />
*When Roslin "won" the rigged election results, Roslin received 24,265 votes, while Baltar recieved 22,266. This means that the elligible voters in the Fleet number 46,531. In the podcast, RDM explains that he quickly came up with these numbers, to try to reflect roughly how many survivors are below the voting age.<br />
*Toward the end of the episode, President Baltar refers to a government body called the "People's Council". This may be the proportionally elected lower house mentioned in by RDM in his [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/index.html#a000016 blog post] on January 30, 2005.<br />
*[[Hera]] is seen on New Caprica in the same white cradle that Baltar had a vision of her being in in "[[Scattered]]", etc. According to RDM's podcast it's actually the exact same cradle.<br />
*Tyrol's union speech is an almost word for word quote of Mario Savio's address during the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley in 1964. According to Ron Moore and David Eick in the podcast, they even got permission from Savio's widow to use it (even though, due to the way copyright laws work from back then, they could have just used it without permission, they felt they should get it). As a result, it's even listed in the credits: "Mario Savio speech excerpted courtesy of: Lynne Hollander Savio". Actor Aaron Douglas (Chief [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]]) actually studied film of Savio, so all of the hand gestures Tyrol makes when he gives the speech are gestures that Savio actually used.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Dr. Cottle decides Cally is ready to return to duty:''<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You're done here. I'm kickin' you out of here and sending you back to work.<br />
:'''Cally:''' (muffled, because her jaw is immobilized) Work??? Like this?<br />
:'''Cottle:''' You gotta love a woman who can complain even with her jaw wired shut.<br />
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*''The Cylons occupy New Caprica:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' "What do we do now, Captain?"<br />
:'''Starbuck:''' "Same thing we always do. Fight them until we can't."<br />
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*''Trying to bring order to a Union meeting:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' Everyone, please be quiet. (''crowd ignores him'')<br />
:'''Cally:''' Hey! Shut the frak up! (''crowd quiets down'')<br />
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*'''Admiral Adama:''' We're leaving. But we'll be back.<br />
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== Official Statements ==<br />
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From the official site (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/):<br />
When Baltar wins the vote, Roslin considers stealing the election because she believes he is a Cylon collaborator.<br />
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== Statistics ==<br />
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=== Guest Stars ===<br />
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0722413/ Donnelly Rhodes] as Dr. [[Cottle]]<br />
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Winston Rekert as Priest<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 19<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br> [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
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| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
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| US Airdate=March 3, 2006<br />
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| Prev= [[Downloaded]]<br />
| Next= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
''As the presidential election looms just weeks away, the accidental discovery of a habitable planet sparks debate in the Fleet: Colonize? Or keep seeking Earth? Meanwhile, Starbuck leads a rescue mission of Raptors back to Caprica to save Anders and his resistance''.<br />
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== Summary == <br />
*[[William Adama|Adama]] has finally given [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] the go-ahead to plan a rescue mission to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Caprica]]. On [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']], she lays out their plan: they will use ''all'' of their remaining [[Raptor|Raptors]] — 20 in all — and use the navigation computer/organ from one of the captured [[Heavy Raider]]s to calculate the Jumps back to Caprica. Using this, they can make it back to Caprica in a series of 10 Jumps. They will go undetected when they reach Caprica by making a risky jump to just a few klicks above the surface, within the atmosphere itself, below [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[DRADIS]]. Their biggest obstacle to doing this was actually interfacing with the Heavy Raider's navigation "computer", but now they will take [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|''Caprica''-Sharon]] along in Starbuck's Raptor with it; Sharon will directly interface with the computer (by inserting a fiber-optic cable into her arm, like she did in "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]").<br />
*The presidential election is two weeks away, and [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is ahead in the polls. The only real arguments that [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] has against her that give him any ground are when he accuses her of pandering to the religious fundamentalists (i.e. her recent policy switch on abortion) and guiding the Fleet based on the scriptures alone. Conferring with his campaign manager [[Tom Zarek]] in his lab, Baltar realizes he'll need more than this to turn the fleet againt Roslin. Meanwhile, Roslin is doing a little rehearsal ritual for the presidential debate with Adama in his quarters.<br />
*On the hangar deck, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] is sleeping on the floor and twitching convulsively, having a nightmare. [[Cally]] searches around the deck to find him, and is confused by the sight when she finds him. Cally tried to wake Tyrol up, but snapping right out of his nightmare he attacks Cally, punching her in the face until she is a bloody pulp and unconscious. Realizing where he is and what's going on, Tyrol is horrified, and carries Cally in his arms to sickbay. <br />
*[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], now commander of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', has conflicting feelings about Starbuck's mission to rescue Anders, but wishes her good luck in finding him.<br />
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and ''Caprica''-Sharon travel in Starbuck's Raptor. Sharon is still deeply depressed about her daughter [[Hera]]'s seeming death, and has been shutting herself out. Helo tells her that he won't let her do that and won't give up on her. Sharon tells him that she has the feeling that something bad will happen in the future; not on the mission to Caprica, but something else. <br />
*On the very first jump out of the series of ten, [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]'s Raptor jumps to the wrong set of coordinates. Starbuck's orders were to keep going ahead until they lose 3 Raptors, so they go on ahead, while Racetrack prepares to follow her orders to return to [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] if separated. Her Raptor jumped into the middle of a gas cloud with a lot of interference, and upon clearing it, a new planet is found. Scanners indicate that it is a human-habitable planet. She returns to ''Galactica'' with news of the discovery.<br />
*The crew goes over the scans from the planet; it can sustain human life and subsequent scouting shows that in contains animal and vegetative life; they could indeed settle here. However, it is a cold world and somewhat harsh; only a temperate band around the equator covering about 20% of the surface would be habitable. After some prodding from [[Six]], Baltar and Zarek realize that they can use this as their wedge issue to turn the people against Roslin: offer them permament colonization on this planet.<br />
*[[Tory Foster|Tory]] goes over new poll numbers with Roslin on [[Colonial One]]: Baltar has been gaining ground with his new offer to stop running from the Cylons and stay here. The planet is hidden by interference from the gas clouds, and many people want to just stop their constant chase in the refugee fleet. Roslin points out that if the Colonials could find the planet, the Cylons could just as easily. Also, life on the planet would be harsh. Tory points out that Baltar is pandering to the people's hopes, giving them false ones that they greatly desire, while Roslin is pointing out justifiable fears that they simply don't want to hear; people will vote their hopes.<br />
*Shocked by his attack on Cally, Chief Tyrol has asked for religious counselling, and meets with a priest named [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]. Tyrol explains that it is because he doesn't believe that psychoanalysis works, but is himself a very [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|religious]] man. Cavil is somewhat loose and sarcastic in his counseling, leaving Tyrol a little pertubed and confused. Cavil tells Tryol that he must look for the problem in himself and questions Tyrol, and when Tyrol denies that he has been having disturbing dreams, Cavil can see through it, so Tyrol relents.<br />
*For weeks, Tyrol has been having the recurring dream that he walks onto the upper level of the hangar deck, climbs over the railing and kills himself by jumping to his death. Cavil says it is because Tyrol has a subconscious desire to kill himself. Tyrol explains that he has had the gnawing worry since [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]] died that he might himself be a [[Cylon agent|Cylon]]. ''Galactica''-Sharon never really knew she was a Cylon, even up to the point that she died, but reported strange fears that something bad was going to happen and she had to stop herself: how would Tyrol, or anyone else, really ''know'' if they were a Cylon sleeper agent or not? Tyrol is frightened by the prospect.<br />
*Cavil assured Tyrol that he is not a Cylon, sarcastically quipping that he knows because he is a Cylon himself, and hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings. Tyrol feels ashamed to go back to the hangar deck crew after the accident, but Cavil assures him that they're the only family he has left, and they love him. Cally most of all.<br />
*At the final presidential debate, Baltar's charisma and hopes of finally giving up their run from the Cylons starts to pull him ahead in the polls, and Roslin's warnings that this planet is not safe and determination to keep searching for Earth do not gain wide support. Baltar apparently wins the final debate. Roslin tells him to go frak himself.<br />
*The Raptors rescuse mission makes the final jump to Caprica. [[Raptor 612]] is lost because it jumps right into the middle of a mountain. The remaining Raptors continue on, then Starbuck, Helo, Sharon and the marines continue on foot.<br />
*One klick away from the resistance's base camp, they see movement, and find [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and his whole group. Starbuck is overjoyed to see him, but Anders warns that the Cylons are right behind them; the resistance's base was ambushed that morning, and half of Anders' men are dead. <br />
*The [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]] and [[Resistance (movement)|resistance]] members start coming under Cylon artillery fire. After running briefly, they reach a point where the arc of the artillery shells is right above them, and cannot hit them. However, the artillery's killzone is now between them and retreat back to the Raptors. To be continued...<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
*Did [[Raptor 612]] Jump "into" the mountain by crashing into it, or did they jump ''inside'' of it?<br />
**RDM confirms in the podcast that by "jumped into the mountain" it doesn't mean "they jumped close to it and thus crashed", it means, exactly like a Star Trek transporter accident, that they materialized from the Jump into solid rock, "half-phased".<br />
*If Raptor 612 was destroyed by jumping into a mountain, how was their transponder still operational?<br />
**Perhaps that part of the Raptor was in an air pocket in the rock, and thus not phased into it. RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.<br />
*Is the previous distance limit for Colonial [[FTL]] jumps on account of something like mathematical calculations? Have any of the other Raptors, besides the lead Raptor, been modified, or do they just receive coordinates from the one Raptor with Caprica-Boomer and the Cylon device?<br />
**No, or at least, not entirely. Based on Starbuck's jump back to Caprica in a Cylon Raider and other comments made in season 1, the Cylon FTL drive is far more capable to begin with. Colonial navigation systems would not be designed to take advantage of a markedly superior FTL drive because there would have been no need. Even by using the Cylon navigation computer, with its much better calculations, they needed ten jumps to return to Caprica.<br />
***The dialog after Racetrack's Raptor gets waylaid hints at a firmware error. This hints at the possibility that all the Raptors were upgraded to take advantage of the “better” FTL jump calculations from the salvaged Cylon organ/computer. Previously, Starbuck jumped back to Caprica in her converted Raider in one jump, where the Raptors need to take 10 jumps. However, we do not know of the fleet's current position compared to where it was during the events of "[[Kobol%27s_Last_Gleaming%2C_Part_II]]". Therefore it is not possible to determine, assuming the best possible FTL jump calculations, whether Cylon or human ships can jump further.<br />
*Does the fleet have the resources to sustain long term settlements on the newly found planet?<br />
**Shelter could be taken care of by canabalizing the ships of the fleet for building materials. But the question of how many homes can be made for how many of the 49,000+ survivors simply by recycling the materials availible still remains. Even if ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' themselves were recycled, would there be enough materials, or would the Battlestars still be necessary for orbital defence?<br />
**The planet itself may have natural resources—in "[[Scar]]", a mining ship collected metals to build new Vipers, so mining the planet itself may be possible. In this case it would be unnecessary to cannibalize the fleet.<br />
*Zarek says the people have been cooped up in metal boxes since the attack. How literally does he mean this—for instance, are people living inside converted cargo holds as they were in the original series?<br />
**Judging from RDM's podcast, he just meant being stuck inside of cramped ships in general, i.e. even the ''Galactica'' crew (who have dedicated crew quarters).<br />
*How was the Raptor able to jump back to the fleet if their FTL navigation computer was not working properly?<br />
**Racetrack's navigator says she gave him the coordinates, so it is possible that she relayed them incorrectly rather than a malfunction in the computer. Alternatively, they could have tracked down any fault and repaired it. In any case, the coordinates for the Raptor's original jump point would probably still be in the system.<br />
*What about the Cylons hiding within the fleet? With the possible settlement of the planet being openly debated can the Cylon infiltrators not contact the Cylon fleet and inform them of the Colonials intentions?<br />
**Perhaps the interference around the planet is blocking long range communications?<br />
**Caprica-Sharon implies that there are Cylons amongst the fleet by telling Adama she would not identify them if asked.<br />
*Laura states that Baltar does not have a key issue besides the "religious angle." What about the abortion issue from "[[The Captain's Hand]]"?<br />
**Anti-abortion opinion is primarily based on religion.<br />
***Even if it's based on religion, it was a key issue that he took a stand on when he put in his candidacy. Besides, there are probably many religious people in the fleet.<br />
*When exactly did the Raptors leave for Caprica? If the episode lasts about two weeks, did it take that long to get to Caprica?<br />
**From the dialog it appears that the Raptors can make a jump within 10 minuites, so the entire trip back likely took less than two hours.<br />
***From what I saw, it sounded like they were going to leave at least a week, maybe more, before the elections (since Six said the elections were two weeks away).<br />
*Why is Tyrol passed out in his underwear on the hangerdeck? What happened to his clothes?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Timeline:<br />
**According to [[Six]], on the night of the first debate the election is still "two weeks away".<br />
**At the beginning of the first debate, [[James McManus]] states Baltar declared his bid for presidency a month ago. This took place at the end of "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months", putting this episode not long after "[[Downloaded]]" around Day 270.<br />
**At the conclusion of the second debate, the polls will open in three days.<br />
*[[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]] is apparently assigned to ''Pegasus'' at present, since Dualla refers to her mission as the "Pegasus survey team".<br />
**She could have been flying a ''Pegasus'' Raptor. <br />
*[[Lee Adama]] is now wearing a wristwatch, perhaps [[Barry Garner]]'s from "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
*It is safe to emerge from a hyperspace jump inside a planetary atmosphere at 2km, but not within solid rock. For comparative purposes, the density of air at 2km in an earth-like atmosphere is about 1 kg/m<sup>3</sup>, while the density of silica rock is about 2,600 kg/m<sup>3</sup>.<br />
*When Tyrol's counseling with Cavil is coming to an end, Cavil notes to Tyrol that Cally "especially" loves him. Tyrol is apparently oblivious to this obvious fact up to that point.<br />
*''BattlestarWiki'' has been trying for some time to reconcile on the [[Timeline (RDM)|Timeline]] the apparent jump from 3 months to 6 months that occured at the beginning of Season 2.5, a part of which was that back in "[[Bastille Day]]" it was stated on screen that the presidential elections were due in '''seven''' months. However, over 7 months passed by the end of "[[Scar]]", and there wasn't even talk of the elections until "[[The Captain's Hand]]". In the podcast for this episode, Ron Moore appears to reveal that he has simply forgotten this point. When he refers to the fact that "elections were promised back in "Bastille Day"", Moore says that he remembers that the line in "Bastille Day" was '''nine''' months, not seven. This is more than a one-episode goof, becuase one month after "Bastille Day" in "[[Colonial Day]]", it was stated that the elections were six months away. In the podcast it seems that Moore is truly and simply mistaken, and there is no explanation for the descrepancy betwen the "seven months after the attack" figures given in "Bastille Day" and "Colonial Day", and the new "nine months after the attack" figure at the end of season 2.5. It is simply a mistake.<br />
*In this episode they refer to "the captured Heavy Raider", singular. This would imply that only the one Starbuck brought back from Caprica in "[[Home, Part I]]" was still functional at all, and the one that crashed into ''Galactica'' in "[[Scattered]]" was damaged beyond salvage or repair.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The re-cap for this episode includes scenes not actually shown in previous episodes—for instance, Starbuck demanding to the dying Roslin circa "[[Epiphanies]]" that they go back and rescue the Caprica resistance.<br />
*When Baltar sarcastically quips that Zarek (and Six) expect him to just sit around and wait for "The Hand of God" to deliver them something they can use to their advantage against Roslin, he is of course referencing the previous episode titled "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Ironically, Baltar considers himself the hand of God in that episode. Further, a "chance serendipitous event" (namely the discovery of an inhabitable planet) does deliver them something they can use against Roslin.<br />
*Likewise, when Apollo wishes Starbuck "good hunting", there's a tone of concern, and he seems to pause before saying it, as if Apollo meant to say something else but changed his mind. This may be a reference to "[[33]]", when Starbuck tells Apollo to say "good hunting" instead of "be careful out there".<br />
*This episode has many parallels to "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]": the discovery of an inhabitable planet, Gaeta plotting a Raptor jump dangerously close to a planet surface, Starbuck's use of captured Cylon technology to return to Caprica, the intercutting of several plot threads in the teaser, a character contemplating suicide out of fear of being a Cylon, and difficulties between Helo and Sharon. In addition, Tyrol's assault of Cally is something of a parallel to Helo shooting Sharon in "Kobol's Last Gleaming"—in both cases, a man driven to rage physically and emotionally wounds a woman who loves him.<br />
*When Lt. Gaeta takes his shirt off in the head, he can be seen to still be sporting the tiger tatoo that we first saw in "[[Final Cut]]".<br />
*The combined Colonial fleet had 20 Raptors in this episode, of which 1 was destroyed before the end. Previously, ''Galactica'' was confirmed to have at least 5 left ([[The Farm]]), with the suggestion that there may be as many as 8 ([[Resistance]]). Doubtlessly, ''Pegasus'' brought at least an equal number of Raptors with it when it joined the Fleet, but 20 is still a high number for this. Perhaps a disproportionately large number of Raptors escaped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] during the [[Miniseries]]. Or perhaps like in real life with American Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers that carry a larger number of fighter aircraft compared to older Forrestal class carriers, the Pegasus, being a larger and more modern Battlestar than Galactica, it has the capability to carry a larger complement of Raptors. Unlike Vipers, Raptors do have FTL drives. We actually saw Boomer and Helo escaping the destruction of their Viper squadron, because Raptors do not engage in frontline combat, and because they have an extenstive ECM suite which Helo was trying to jam the Cylon virus signal with. Indeed, [[Crashdown]] was a Raptor ECO, but Boomer stated that he was not from ''Galactica'', but a refugee "from Triton" (either a battlestar or a planet). <br />
**Also, more Raptors could have been built with extra materials after the Viper squadrons were manufactured ([[Scar]]). <br />
*The jump error that landed the Raptor in the nebula was attributed to a "firmware error" by the crew. This may be an indication that there was firmware upgrade to deal with the increased FTL jump distances provided by the Cylon computer.<br />
*When Cavil is consoling Tyrol's fears that he might unknowingly be a Cylon sleeper agent, just like Boomer was, Tyrol asks him how he can know for sure. Cavil sarcastically answers that it's because maybe he's a Cylon, and he hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings: Number Six also sarcastically remarked to Baltar in the Miniseries that [[Aaron Doral]] could not be a Cylon, because she hadn't "seen him at any of the good Cylon parties"...but of course, Doral actually ''was'' a Cylon, implying that Cavil is truly more than he seems.<br />
*Tory actually paraphrases the title of this episode aloud, saying that the new planet offers people in the Fleet the hope that they can "lay down their burdens" and stop running.<br />
*During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, before the Teaser segment a "Parental Discretion Is Advised" black and white message was inserted. At the end of the Teaser, Tyrol beats Cally to a bloody pulp.<br />
*Lee Adama is now wearing a new uniform as Commander of ''Pegasus'': it is a Commander's uniform, denoted by the new red trim (with gold inner trim), and it has a white "''Pegasus'' BSG-62" patch, replacing his old gold "''Galactica'' BSG-75" patch.<br />
*Dualla's photo of Adama is the left half of a group shot with Kara Thrace and his brother Zak Adama. The original belongs to Thrace, and she has kept it in her locker on ''Galactica'' since the miniseries.<br />
*Dualla refers to "rivers of milk and honey" on the newly discovered planet. The phrase "land of milk and honey" is a common epithet for the promised land in the Torah, appearing in Exodus 3:8, 3:17, 13:5, 33:3, Leviticus 20:24, Number 13:27, 14:8, 16:13-14, and Deuteronomy 6:3.<br />
*Commander Lee Adama is seen eating noodles with chopsticks in his quarters, just like his father in "[[33]]", etc. <br />
*In the podcast, RDM states that originally instead of Starbuck, Helo, and Sharon leading the other Raptors in another Raptor, they would have been flying in the captured Heavy Raider itself. However, the 2 part season finale went overbudget and cuts had to be made, and the cost of building the Heavy Raider interior was deemed prohibitively expensive. Thus, they bring the Heavy Raider computer/organ with them in a normal Raptor. Moore said he believed that fans "wouldn't miss" an actual appearance by the Heavy Raider.<br />
*Col. [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] appears in this epsiode twice but doesn't speak a single line.<br />
*This is the first time since the [[Mini Series]] that Helo is seen fulfilling his duties as an [[ECO]].<br />
*Apollo quips that if they find a habitable planet, he'll build the pilots a bar on it. Actor Jamie Bamber has said in interviews that part of Apollo's backstory is that he didn't know what he was going to do with his life; he's in the Colonial Fleet reserves, not a full-career commitment, etc. He said that right before the attack, Apollo was supposed to be considering leaving the service and just openning up a bar somewhere.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Chief Tyrol is worried that like'' Galactica''-Sharon, he could just as well be another Cylon sleeper agent:''<br />
:'''Chief Tyrol:''' How do you know I'm human?<br />
:'''Brother Cavil:''' Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.<br />
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*'''Brother Cavil:''' Do you know how useless prayer is? Chanting, and singing, and mucking about with old half-remembered lines of bad poetry? And you know what it gets you? Exactly nothing.<br />
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*'''Gaius Baltar:''' I'm not sure if you're aware, [[Tom Zarek|Tom]], but the mob isn't usually in the habit of electing ungodly apostates who denegrate people of faith.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*''In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]) said:'' "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aaron+Douglas Aaron Douglas] as CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne] as Specialist [[Cally]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Leah+Cairns Leah Cairns] [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Colin Lawrence as "Skulls" McCall<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 19<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br> [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
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| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
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| US Airdate=March 3, 2006<br />
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| Next= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
''As the presidential election looms just weeks away, the accidental discovery of a habitable planet sparks debate in the Fleet: Colonize? Or keep seeking Earth? Meanwhile, Starbuck leads a rescue mission of Raptors back to Caprica to save Anders and his resistance''.<br />
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== Summary == <br />
*[[William Adama|Adama]] has finally given [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] the go-ahead to plan a rescue mission to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Caprica]]. On [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']], she lays out their plan: they will use ''all'' of their remaining [[Raptor|Raptors]] — 20 in all — and use the navigation computer/organ from one of the captured [[Heavy Raider]]s to calculate the Jumps back to Caprica. Using this, they can make it back to Caprica in a series of 10 Jumps. They will go undetected when they reach Caprica by making a risky jump to just a few klicks above the surface, within the atmosphere itself, below [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[DRADIS]]. Their biggest obstacle to doing this was actually interfacing with the Heavy Raider's navigation "computer", but now they will take [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|''Caprica''-Sharon]] along in Starbuck's Raptor with it; Sharon will directly interface with the computer (by inserting a fiber-optic cable into her arm, like she did in "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]").<br />
*The presidential election is two weeks away, and [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is ahead in the polls. The only real arguments that [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] has against her that give him any ground are when he accuses her of pandering to the religious fundamentalists (i.e. her recent policy switch on abortion) and guiding the Fleet based on the scriptures alone. Conferring with his campaign manager [[Tom Zarek]] in his lab, Baltar realizes he'll need more than this to turn the fleet againt Roslin. Meanwhile, Roslin is doing a little rehearsal ritual for the presidential debate with Adama in his quarters.<br />
*On the hangar deck, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] is sleeping on the floor and twitching convulsively, having a nightmare. [[Cally]] searches around the deck to find him, and is confused by the sight when she finds him. Cally tried to wake Tyrol up, but snapping right out of his nightmare he attacks Cally, punching her in the face until she is a bloody pulp and unconscious. Realizing where he is and what's going on, Tyrol is horrified, and carries Cally in his arms to sickbay. <br />
*[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], now commander of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', has conflicting feelings about Starbuck's mission to rescue Anders, but wishes her good luck in finding him.<br />
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and ''Caprica''-Sharon travel in Starbuck's Raptor. Sharon is still deeply depressed about her daughter [[Hera]]'s seeming death, and has been shutting herself out. Helo tells her that he won't let her do that and won't give up on her. Sharon tells him that she has the feeling that something bad will happen in the future; not on the mission to Caprica, but something else. <br />
*On the very first jump out of the series of ten, [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]'s Raptor jumps to the wrong set of coordinates. Starbuck's orders were to keep going ahead until they lose 3 Raptors, so they go on ahead, while Racetrack prepares to follow her orders to return to [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] if separated. Her Raptor jumped into the middle of a gas cloud with a lot of interference, and upon clearing it, a new planet is found. Scanners indicate that it is a human-habitable planet. She returns to ''Galactica'' with news of the discovery.<br />
*The crew goes over the scans from the planet; it can sustain human life and subsequent scouting shows that in contains animal and vegetative life; they could indeed settle here. However, it is a cold world and somewhat harsh; only a temperate band around the equator covering about 20% of the surface would be habitable. After some prodding from [[Six]], Baltar and Zarek realize that they can use this as their wedge issue to turn the people against Roslin: offer them permament colonization on this planet.<br />
*[[Tory Foster|Tory]] goes over new poll numbers with Roslin on [[Colonial One]]: Baltar has been gaining ground with his new offer to stop running from the Cylons and stay here. The planet is hidden by interference from the gas clouds, and many people want to just stop their constant chase in the refugee fleet. Roslin points out that if the Colonials could find the planet, the Cylons could just as easily. Also, life on the planet would be harsh. Tory points out that Baltar is pandering to the people's hopes, giving them false ones that they greatly desire, while Roslin is pointing out justifiable fears that they simply don't want to hear; people will vote their hopes.<br />
*Shocked by his attack on Cally, Chief Tyrol has asked for religious counselling, and meets with a priest named [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]. Tyrol explains that it is because he doesn't believe that psychoanalysis works, but is himself a very [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|religious]] man. Cavil is somewhat loose and sarcastic in his counseling, leaving Tyrol a little pertubed and confused. Cavil tells Tryol that he must look for the problem in himself and questions Tyrol, and when Tyrol denies that he has been having disturbing dreams, Cavil can see through it, so Tyrol relents.<br />
*For weeks, Tyrol has been having the recurring dream that he walks onto the upper level of the hangar deck, climbs over the railing and kills himself by jumping to his death. Cavil says it is because Tyrol has a subconscious desire to kill himself. Tyrol explains that he has had the gnawing worry since [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]] died that he might himself be a [[Cylon agent|Cylon]]. ''Galactica''-Sharon never really knew she was a Cylon, even up to the point that she died, but reported strange fears that something bad was going to happen and she had to stop herself: how would Tyrol, or anyone else, really ''know'' if they were a Cylon sleeper agent or not? Tyrol is frightened by the prospect.<br />
*Cavil assured Tyrol that he is not a Cylon, sarcastically quipping that he knows because he is a Cylon himself, and hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings. Tyrol feels ashamed to go back to the hangar deck crew after the accident, but Cavil assures him that they're the only family he has left, and they love him. Cally most of all.<br />
*At the final presidential debate, Baltar's charisma and hopes of finally giving up their run from the Cylons starts to pull him ahead in the polls, and Roslin's warnings that this planet is not safe and determination to keep searching for Earth do not gain wide support. Baltar apparently wins the final debate. Roslin tells him to go frak himself.<br />
*The Raptors rescuse mission makes the final jump to Caprica. [[Raptor 612]] is lost because it jumps right into the middle of a mountain. The remaining Raptors continue on, then Starbuck, Helo, Sharon and the marines continue on foot.<br />
*One klick away from the resistance's base camp, they see movement, and find [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and his whole group. Starbuck is overjoyed to see him, but Anders warns that the Cylons are right behind them; the resistance's base was ambushed that morning, and half of Anders' men are dead. <br />
*The [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]] and [[Resistance (movement)|resistance]] members start coming under Cylon artillery fire. After running briefly, they reach a point where the arc of the artillery shells is right above them, and cannot hit them. However, the artillery's killzone is now between them and retreat back to the Raptors. To be continued...<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
*Did [[Raptor 612]] Jump "into" the mountain by crashing into it, or did they jump ''inside'' of it?<br />
**RDM confirms in the podcast that by "jumped into the mountain" it doesn't mean "they jumped close to it and thus crashed", it means, exactly like a Star Trek transporter accident, that they materialized from the Jump into solid rock, "half-phased".<br />
*If Raptor 612 was destroyed by jumping into a mountain, how was their transponder still operational?<br />
**Perhaps that part of the Raptor was in an air pocket in the rock, and thus not phased into it. RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.<br />
*Is the previous distance limit for Colonial [[FTL]] jumps on account of something like mathematical calculations? Have any of the other Raptors, besides the lead Raptor, been modified, or do they just receive coordinates from the one Raptor with Caprica-Boomer and the Cylon device?<br />
**No, or at least, not entirely. Based on Starbuck's jump back to Caprica in a Cylon Raider and other comments made in season 1, the Cylon FTL drive is far more capable to begin with. Colonial navigation systems would not be designed to take advantage of a markedly superior FTL drive because there would have been no need. Even by using the Cylon navigation computer, with its much better calculations, they needed ten jumps to return to Caprica.<br />
***The dialog after Racetrack's Raptor gets waylaid hints at a firmware error. This hints at the possibility that all the Raptors were upgraded to take advantage of the “better” FTL jump calculations from the salvaged Cylon organ/computer. Previously, Starbuck jumped back to Caprica in her converted Raider in one jump, where the Raptors need to take 10 jumps. However, we do not know of the fleet's current position compared to where it was during the events of "[[Kobol%27s_Last_Gleaming%2C_Part_II]]". Therefore it is not possible to determine, assuming the best possible FTL jump calculations, whether Cylon or human ships can jump further.<br />
*Does the fleet have the resources to sustain long term settlements on the newly found planet?<br />
**Shelter could be taken care of by canabalizing the ships of the fleet for building materials. But the question of how many homes can be made for how many of the 49,000+ survivors simply by recycling the materials availible still remains. Even if ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' themselves were recycled, would there be enough materials, or would the Battlestars still be necessary for orbital defence?<br />
**The planet itself may have natural resources—in "[[Scar]]", a mining ship collected metals to build new Vipers, so mining the planet itself may be possible. In this case it would be unnecessary to cannibalize the fleet.<br />
*Zarek says the people have been cooped up in metal boxes since the attack. How literally does he mean this—for instance, are people living inside converted cargo holds as they were in the original series?<br />
**Judging from RDM's podcast, he just meant being stuck inside of cramped ships in general, i.e. even the ''Galactica'' crew (who have dedicated crew quarters).<br />
*How was the Raptor able to jump back to the fleet if their FTL navigation computer was not working properly?<br />
**Racetrack's navigator says she gave him the coordinates, so it is possible that she relayed them incorrectly rather than a malfunction in the computer. Alternatively, they could have tracked down any fault and repaired it. In any case, the coordinates for the Raptor's original jump point would probably still be in the system.<br />
*What about the Cylons hiding within the fleet? With the possible settlement of the planet being openly debated can the Cylon infiltrators not contact the Cylon fleet and inform them of the Colonials intentions?<br />
**Perhaps the interference around the planet is blocking long range communications?<br />
**Caprica-Sharon implies that there are Cylons amongst the fleet by telling Adama she would not identify them if asked.<br />
*Laura states that Baltar does not have a key issue besides the "religious angle." What about the abortion issue from "[[The Captain's Hand]]"?<br />
**Anti-abortion opinion is primarily based on religion.<br />
***Even if it's based on religion, it was a key issue that he took a stand on when he put in his candidacy. Besides, there are probably many religious people in the fleet.<br />
*When exactly did the Raptors leave for Caprica? If the episode lasts about two weeks, did it take that long to get to Caprica?<br />
**From the dialog it appears that the Raptors can make a jump within 10 minuites, so the entire trip back likely took less than two hours.<br />
***From what I saw, it sounded like they were going to leave at least a week, maybe more, before the elections. <br />
*Why is Tyrol passed out in his underwear on the hangerdeck? What happened to his clothes?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Timeline:<br />
**According to [[Six]], on the night of the first debate the election is still "two weeks away".<br />
**At the beginning of the first debate, [[James McManus]] states Baltar declared his bid for presidency a month ago. This took place at the end of "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months", putting this episode not long after "[[Downloaded]]" around Day 270.<br />
**At the conclusion of the second debate, the polls will open in three days.<br />
*[[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]] is apparently assigned to ''Pegasus'' at present, since Dualla refers to her mission as the "Pegasus survey team".<br />
**She could have been flying a ''Pegasus'' Raptor. <br />
*[[Lee Adama]] is now wearing a wristwatch, perhaps [[Barry Garner]]'s from "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
*It is safe to emerge from a hyperspace jump inside a planetary atmosphere at 2km, but not within solid rock. For comparative purposes, the density of air at 2km in an earth-like atmosphere is about 1 kg/m<sup>3</sup>, while the density of silica rock is about 2,600 kg/m<sup>3</sup>.<br />
*When Tyrol's counseling with Cavil is coming to an end, Cavil notes to Tyrol that Cally "especially" loves him. Tyrol is apparently oblivious to this obvious fact up to that point.<br />
*''BattlestarWiki'' has been trying for some time to reconcile on the [[Timeline (RDM)|Timeline]] the apparent jump from 3 months to 6 months that occured at the beginning of Season 2.5, a part of which was that back in "[[Bastille Day]]" it was stated on screen that the presidential elections were due in '''seven''' months. However, over 7 months passed by the end of "[[Scar]]", and there wasn't even talk of the elections until "[[The Captain's Hand]]". In the podcast for this episode, Ron Moore appears to reveal that he has simply forgotten this point. When he refers to the fact that "elections were promised back in "Bastille Day"", Moore says that he remembers that the line in "Bastille Day" was '''nine''' months, not seven. This is more than a one-episode goof, becuase one month after "Bastille Day" in "[[Colonial Day]]", it was stated that the elections were six months away. In the podcast it seems that Moore is truly and simply mistaken, and there is no explanation for the descrepancy betwen the "seven months after the attack" figures given in "Bastille Day" and "Colonial Day", and the new "nine months after the attack" figure at the end of season 2.5. It is simply a mistake.<br />
*In this episode they refer to "the captured Heavy Raider", singular. This would imply that only the one Starbuck brought back from Caprica in "[[Home, Part I]]" was still functional at all, and the one that crashed into ''Galactica'' in "[[Scattered]]" was damaged beyond salvage or repair.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The re-cap for this episode includes scenes not actually shown in previous episodes—for instance, Starbuck demanding to the dying Roslin circa "[[Epiphanies]]" that they go back and rescue the Caprica resistance.<br />
*When Baltar sarcastically quips that Zarek (and Six) expect him to just sit around and wait for "The Hand of God" to deliver them something they can use to their advantage against Roslin, he is of course referencing the previous episode titled "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Ironically, Baltar considers himself the hand of God in that episode. Further, a "chance serendipitous event" (namely the discovery of an inhabitable planet) does deliver them something they can use against Roslin.<br />
*Likewise, when Apollo wishes Starbuck "good hunting", there's a tone of concern, and he seems to pause before saying it, as if Apollo meant to say something else but changed his mind. This may be a reference to "[[33]]", when Starbuck tells Apollo to say "good hunting" instead of "be careful out there".<br />
*This episode has many parallels to "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]": the discovery of an inhabitable planet, Gaeta plotting a Raptor jump dangerously close to a planet surface, Starbuck's use of captured Cylon technology to return to Caprica, the intercutting of several plot threads in the teaser, a character contemplating suicide out of fear of being a Cylon, and difficulties between Helo and Sharon. In addition, Tyrol's assault of Cally is something of a parallel to Helo shooting Sharon in "Kobol's Last Gleaming"—in both cases, a man driven to rage physically and emotionally wounds a woman who loves him.<br />
*When Lt. Gaeta takes his shirt off in the head, he can be seen to still be sporting the tiger tatoo that we first saw in "[[Final Cut]]".<br />
*The combined Colonial fleet had 20 Raptors in this episode, of which 1 was destroyed before the end. Previously, ''Galactica'' was confirmed to have at least 5 left ([[The Farm]]), with the suggestion that there may be as many as 8 ([[Resistance]]). Doubtlessly, ''Pegasus'' brought at least an equal number of Raptors with it when it joined the Fleet, but 20 is still a high number for this. Perhaps a disproportionately large number of Raptors escaped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] during the [[Miniseries]]. Or perhaps like in real life with American Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers that carry a larger number of fighter aircraft compared to older Forrestal class carriers, the Pegasus, being a larger and more modern Battlestar than Galactica, it has the capability to carry a larger complement of Raptors. Unlike Vipers, Raptors do have FTL drives. We actually saw Boomer and Helo escaping the destruction of their Viper squadron, because Raptors do not engage in frontline combat, and because they have an extenstive ECM suite which Helo was trying to jam the Cylon virus signal with. Indeed, [[Crashdown]] was a Raptor ECO, but Boomer stated that he was not from ''Galactica'', but a refugee "from Triton" (either a battlestar or a planet). <br />
**Also, more Raptors could have been built with extra materials after the Viper squadrons were manufactured ([[Scar]]). <br />
*The jump error that landed the Raptor in the nebula was attributed to a "firmware error" by the crew. This may be an indication that there was firmware upgrade to deal with the increased FTL jump distances provided by the Cylon computer.<br />
*When Cavil is consoling Tyrol's fears that he might unknowingly be a Cylon sleeper agent, just like Boomer was, Tyrol asks him how he can know for sure. Cavil sarcastically answers that it's because maybe he's a Cylon, and he hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings: Number Six also sarcastically remarked to Baltar in the Miniseries that [[Aaron Doral]] could not be a Cylon, because she hadn't "seen him at any of the good Cylon parties"...but of course, Doral actually ''was'' a Cylon, implying that Cavil is truly more than he seems.<br />
*Tory actually paraphrases the title of this episode aloud, saying that the new planet offers people in the Fleet the hope that they can "lay down their burdens" and stop running.<br />
*During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, before the Teaser segment a "Parental Discretion Is Advised" black and white message was inserted. At the end of the Teaser, Tyrol beats Cally to a bloody pulp.<br />
*Lee Adama is now wearing a new uniform as Commander of ''Pegasus'': it is a Commander's uniform, denoted by the new red trim (with gold inner trim), and it has a white "''Pegasus'' BSG-62" patch, replacing his old gold "''Galactica'' BSG-75" patch.<br />
*Dualla's photo of Adama is the left half of a group shot with Kara Thrace and his brother Zak Adama. The original belongs to Thrace, and she has kept it in her locker on ''Galactica'' since the miniseries.<br />
*Dualla refers to "rivers of milk and honey" on the newly discovered planet. The phrase "land of milk and honey" is a common epithet for the promised land in the Torah, appearing in Exodus 3:8, 3:17, 13:5, 33:3, Leviticus 20:24, Number 13:27, 14:8, 16:13-14, and Deuteronomy 6:3.<br />
*Commander Lee Adama is seen eating noodles with chopsticks in his quarters, just like his father in "[[33]]", etc. <br />
*In the podcast, RDM states that originally instead of Starbuck, Helo, and Sharon leading the other Raptors in another Raptor, they would have been flying in the captured Heavy Raider itself. However, the 2 part season finale went overbudget and cuts had to be made, and the cost of building the Heavy Raider interior was deemed prohibitively expensive. Thus, they bring the Heavy Raider computer/organ with them in a normal Raptor. Moore said he believed that fans "wouldn't miss" an actual appearance by the Heavy Raider.<br />
*Col. [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] appears in this epsiode twice but doesn't speak a single line.<br />
*This is the first time since the [[Mini Series]] that Helo is seen fulfilling his duties as an [[ECO]].<br />
*Apollo quips that if they find a habitable planet, he'll build the pilots a bar on it. Actor Jamie Bamber has said in interviews that part of Apollo's backstory is that he didn't know what he was going to do with his life; he's in the Colonial Fleet reserves, not a full-career commitment, etc. He said that right before the attack, Apollo was supposed to be considering leaving the service and just openning up a bar somewhere.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Chief Tyrol is worried that like'' Galactica''-Sharon, he could just as well be another Cylon sleeper agent:''<br />
:'''Chief Tyrol:''' How do you know I'm human?<br />
:'''Brother Cavil:''' Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.<br />
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*'''Brother Cavil:''' Do you know how useless prayer is? Chanting, and singing, and mucking about with old half-remembered lines of bad poetry? And you know what it gets you? Exactly nothing.<br />
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*'''Gaius Baltar:''' I'm not sure if you're aware, [[Tom Zarek|Tom]], but the mob isn't usually in the habit of electing ungodly apostates who denegrate people of faith.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*''In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]) said:'' "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aaron+Douglas Aaron Douglas] as CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne] as Specialist [[Cally]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Leah+Cairns Leah Cairns] [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Colin Lawrence as "Skulls" McCall<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 19<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br> [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
| Writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]]<br />
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| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
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| US Airdate=March 3, 2006<br />
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| Population= 49,579<br />
| Prev= [[Downloaded]]<br />
| Next= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
''As the presidential election looms just weeks away, the accidental discovery of a habitable planet sparks debate in the Fleet: Colonize? Or keep seeking Earth? Meanwhile, Starbuck leads a rescue mission of Raptors back to Caprica to save Anders and his resistance''.<br />
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== Summary == <br />
*[[William Adama|Adama]] has finally given [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] the go-ahead to plan a rescue mission to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Caprica]]. On [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']], she lays out their plan: they will use ''all'' of their remaining [[Raptor|Raptors]] — 20 in all — and use the navigation computer/organ from one of the captured [[Heavy Raider]]s to calculate the Jumps back to Caprica. Using this, they can make it back to Caprica in a series of 10 Jumps. They will go undetected when they reach Caprica by making a risky jump to just a few klicks above the surface, within the atmosphere itself, below [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[DRADIS]]. Their biggest obstacle to doing this was actually interfacing with the Heavy Raider's navigation "computer", but now they will take [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|''Caprica''-Sharon]] along in Starbuck's Raptor with it; Sharon will directly interface with the computer (by inserting a fiber-optic cable into her arm, like she did in "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]").<br />
*The presidential election is two weeks away, and [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is ahead in the polls. The only real arguments that [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] has against her that give him any ground are when he accuses her of pandering to the religious fundamentalists (i.e. her recent policy switch on abortion) and guiding the Fleet based on the scriptures alone. Conferring with his campaign manager [[Tom Zarek]] in his lab, Baltar realizes he'll need more than this to turn the fleet againt Roslin. Meanwhile, Roslin is doing a little rehearsal ritual for the presidential debate with Adama in his quarters.<br />
*On the hangar deck, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] is sleeping on the floor and twitching convulsively, having a nightmare. [[Cally]] searches around the deck to find him, and is confused by the sight when she finds him. Cally tried to wake Tyrol up, but snapping right out of his nightmare he attacks Cally, punching her in the face until she is a bloody pulp and unconscious. Realizing where he is and what's going on, Tyrol is horrified, and carries Cally in his arms to sickbay. <br />
*[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], now commander of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', has conflicting feelings about Starbuck's mission to rescue Anders, but wishes her good luck in finding him.<br />
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and ''Caprica''-Sharon travel in Starbuck's Raptor. Sharon is still deeply depressed about her daughter [[Hera]]'s seeming death, and has been shutting herself out. Helo tells her that he won't let her do that and won't give up on her. Sharon tells him that she has the feeling that something bad will happen in the future; not on the mission to Caprica, but something else. <br />
*On the very first jump out of the series of ten, [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]'s Raptor jumps to the wrong set of coordinates. Starbuck's orders were to keep going ahead until they lose 3 Raptors, so they go on ahead, while Racetrack prepares to follow her orders to return to [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] if separated. Her Raptor jumped into the middle of a gas cloud with a lot of interference, and upon clearing it, a new planet is found. Scanners indicate that it is a human-habitable planet. She returns to ''Galactica'' with news of the discovery.<br />
*The crew goes over the scans from the planet; it can sustain human life and subsequent scouting shows that in contains animal and vegetative life; they could indeed settle here. However, it is a cold world and somewhat harsh; only a temperate band around the equator covering about 20% of the surface would be habitable. After some prodding from [[Six]], Baltar and Zarek realize that they can use this as their wedge issue to turn the people against Roslin: offer them permament colonization on this planet.<br />
*[[Tory Foster|Tory]] goes over new poll numbers with Roslin on [[Colonial One]]: Baltar has been gaining ground with his new offer to stop running from the Cylons and stay here. The planet is hidden by interference from the gas clouds, and many people want to just stop their constant chase in the refugee fleet. Roslin points out that if the Colonials could find the planet, the Cylons could just as easily. Also, life on the planet would be harsh. Tory points out that Baltar is pandering to the people's hopes, giving them false ones that they greatly desire, while Roslin is pointing out justifiable fears that they simply don't want to hear; people will vote their hopes.<br />
*Shocked by his attack on Cally, Chief Tyrol has asked for religious counselling, and meets with a priest named [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]. Tyrol explains that it is because he doesn't believe that psychoanalysis works, but is himself a very [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|religious]] man. Cavil is somewhat loose and sarcastic in his counseling, leaving Tyrol a little pertubed and confused. Cavil tells Tryol that he must look for the problem in himself and questions Tyrol, and when Tyrol denies that he has been having disturbing dreams, Cavil can see through it, so Tyrol relents.<br />
*For weeks, Tyrol has been having the recurring dream that he walks onto the upper level of the hangar deck, climbs over the railing and kills himself by jumping to his death. Cavil says it is because Tyrol has a subconscious desire to kill himself. Tyrol explains that he has had the gnawing worry since [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]] died that he might himself be a [[Cylon agent|Cylon]]. ''Galactica''-Sharon never really knew she was a Cylon, even up to the point that she died, but reported strange fears that something bad was going to happen and she had to stop herself: how would Tyrol, or anyone else, really ''know'' if they were a Cylon sleeper agent or not? Tyrol is frightened by the prospect.<br />
*Cavil assured Tyrol that he is not a Cylon, sarcastically quipping that he knows because he is a Cylon himself, and hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings. Tyrol feels ashamed to go back to the hangar deck crew after the accident, but Cavil assures him that they're the only family he has left, and they love him. Cally most of all.<br />
*At the final presidential debate, Baltar's charisma and hopes of finally giving up their run from the Cylons starts to pull him ahead in the polls, and Roslin's warnings that this planet is not safe and determination to keep searching for Earth do not gain wide support. Baltar apparently wins the final debate. Roslin tells him to go frak himself.<br />
*The Raptors rescuse mission makes the final jump to Caprica. [[Raptor 612]] is lost because it jumps right into the middle of a mountain. The remaining Raptors continue on, then Starbuck, Helo, Sharon and the marines continue on foot.<br />
*One klick away from the resistance's base camp, they see movement, and find [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and his whole group. Starbuck is overjoyed to see him, but Anders warns that the Cylons are right behind them; the resistance's base was ambushed that morning, and half of Anders' men are dead. <br />
*The [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]] and [[Resistance (movement)|resistance]] members start coming under Cylon artillery fire. After running briefly, they reach a point where the arc of the artillery shells is right above them, and cannot hit them. However, the artillery's killzone is now between them and retreat back to the Raptors. To be continued...<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
*Did [[Raptor 612]] Jump "into" the mountain by crashing into it, or did they jump ''inside'' of it?<br />
**RDM confirms in the podcast that by "jumped into the mountain" it doesn't mean "they jumped close to it and thus crashed", it means, exactly like a Star Trek transporter accident, that they materialized from the Jump into solid rock, "half-phased".<br />
*If Raptor 612 was destroyed by jumping into a mountain, how was their transponder still operational?<br />
**Perhaps that part of the Raptor was in an air pocket in the rock, and thus not phased into it. RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.<br />
*Is the previous distance limit for Colonial [[FTL]] jumps on account of something like mathematical calculations? Have any of the other Raptors, besides the lead Raptor, been modified, or do they just receive coordinates from the one Raptor with Caprica-Boomer and the Cylon device?<br />
**No, or at least, not entirely. Based on Starbuck's jump back to Caprica in a Cylon Raider and other comments made in season 1, the Cylon FTL drive is far more capable to begin with. Colonial navigation systems would not be designed to take advantage of a markedly superior FTL drive because there would have been no need. Even by using the Cylon navigation computer, with its much better calculations, they needed ten jumps to return to Caprica.<br />
***The dialog after Racetrack's Raptor gets waylaid hints at a firmware error. This hints at the possibility that all the Raptors were upgraded to take advantage of the “better” FTL jump calculations from the salvaged Cylon organ/computer. Previously, Starbuck jumped back to Caprica in her converted Raider in one jump, where the Raptors need to take 10 jumps. However, we do not know of the fleet's current position compared to where it was during the events of "[[Kobol%27s_Last_Gleaming%2C_Part_II]]". Therefore it is not possible to determine, assuming the best possible FTL jump calculations, whether Cylon or human ships can jump further.<br />
*Does the fleet have the resources to sustain long term settlements on the newly found planet?<br />
**Shelter could be taken care of by canabalizing the ships of the fleet for building materials. But the question of how many homes can be made for how many of the 49,000+ survivors simply by recycling the materials availible still remains. Even if ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' themselves were recycled, would there be enough materials, or would the Battlestars still be necessary for orbital defence?<br />
**The planet itself may have natural resources—in "[[Scar]]", a mining ship collected metals to build new Vipers, so mining the planet itself may be possible. In this case it would be unnecessary to cannibalize the fleet.<br />
*Zarek says the people have been cooped up in metal boxes since the attack. How literally does he mean this—for instance, are people living inside converted cargo holds as they were in the original series?<br />
**Judging from RDM's podcast, he just meant being stuck inside of cramped ships in general, i.e. even the ''Galactica'' crew (who have dedicated crew quarters).<br />
*How was the Raptor able to jump back to the fleet if their FTL navigation computer was not working properly?<br />
**Racetrack's navigator says she gave him the coordinates, so it is possible that she relayed them incorrectly rather than a malfunction in the computer. Alternatively, they could have tracked down any fault and repaired it. In any case, the coordinates for the Raptor's original jump point would probably still be in the system.<br />
*What about the Cylons hiding within the fleet? With the possible settlement of the planet being openly debated can the Cylon infiltrators not contact the Cylon fleet and inform them of the Colonials intentions?<br />
**Perhaps the interference around the planet is blocking long range communications?<br />
**Caprica-Sharon implies that there are Cylons amongst the fleet by telling Adama she would not identify them if asked.<br />
*Laura states that Baltar does not have a key issue besides the "religious angle." What about the abortion issue from "[[The Captain's Hand]]"?<br />
**Anti-abortion opinion is primarily based on religion.<br />
***Even if it's based on religion, it was a key issue that he took a stand on when he put in his candidacy. Besides, there are probably many religious people in the fleet.<br />
*When exactly did the Raptors leave for Caprica? If the episode lasts about two weeks, did it take that long to get to Caprica?<br />
**From the dialog it appears that the Raptors can make a jump within 10 minuites, so the entire trip back likely took less than two hours.<br />
*Why is Tyrol passed out in his underwear on the hangerdeck? What happened to his clothes?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Timeline:<br />
**According to [[Six]], on the night of the first debate the election is still "two weeks away".<br />
**At the beginning of the first debate, [[James McManus]] states Baltar declared his bid for presidency a month ago. This took place at the end of "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months", putting this episode not long after "[[Downloaded]]" around Day 270.<br />
**At the conclusion of the second debate, the polls will open in three days.<br />
*[[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]] is apparently assigned to ''Pegasus'' at present, since Dualla refers to her mission as the "Pegasus survey team".<br />
**She could have been flying a ''Pegasus'' Raptor. <br />
*[[Lee Adama]] is now wearing a wristwatch, perhaps [[Barry Garner]]'s from "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
*It is safe to emerge from a hyperspace jump inside a planetary atmosphere at 2km, but not within solid rock. For comparative purposes, the density of air at 2km in an earth-like atmosphere is about 1 kg/m<sup>3</sup>, while the density of silica rock is about 2,600 kg/m<sup>3</sup>.<br />
*When Tyrol's counseling with Cavil is coming to an end, Cavil notes to Tyrol that Cally "especially" loves him. Tyrol is apparently oblivious to this obvious fact up to that point.<br />
*''BattlestarWiki'' has been trying for some time to reconcile on the [[Timeline (RDM)|Timeline]] the apparent jump from 3 months to 6 months that occured at the beginning of Season 2.5, a part of which was that back in "[[Bastille Day]]" it was stated on screen that the presidential elections were due in '''seven''' months. However, over 7 months passed by the end of "[[Scar]]", and there wasn't even talk of the elections until "[[The Captain's Hand]]". In the podcast for this episode, Ron Moore appears to reveal that he has simply forgotten this point. When he refers to the fact that "elections were promised back in "Bastille Day"", Moore says that he remembers that the line in "Bastille Day" was '''nine''' months, not seven. This is more than a one-episode goof, becuase one month after "Bastille Day" in "[[Colonial Day]]", it was stated that the elections were six months away. In the podcast it seems that Moore is truly and simply mistaken, and there is no explanation for the descrepancy betwen the "seven months after the attack" figures given in "Bastille Day" and "Colonial Day", and the new "nine months after the attack" figure at the end of season 2.5. It is simply a mistake.<br />
*In this episode they refer to "the captured Heavy Raider", singular. This would imply that only the one Starbuck brought back from Caprica in "[[Home, Part I]]" was still functional at all, and the one that crashed into ''Galactica'' in "[[Scattered]]" was damaged beyond salvage or repair.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The re-cap for this episode includes scenes not actually shown in previous episodes—for instance, Starbuck demanding to the dying Roslin circa "[[Epiphanies]]" that they go back and rescue the Caprica resistance.<br />
*When Baltar sarcastically quips that Zarek (and Six) expect him to just sit around and wait for "The Hand of God" to deliver them something they can use to their advantage against Roslin, he is of course referencing the previous episode titled "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Ironically, Baltar considers himself the hand of God in that episode. Further, a "chance serendipitous event" (namely the discovery of an inhabitable planet) does deliver them something they can use against Roslin.<br />
*Likewise, when Apollo wishes Starbuck "good hunting", there's a tone of concern, and he seems to pause before saying it, as if Apollo meant to say something else but changed his mind. This may be a reference to "[[33]]", when Starbuck tells Apollo to say "good hunting" instead of "be careful out there".<br />
*This episode has many parallels to "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]": the discovery of an inhabitable planet, Gaeta plotting a Raptor jump dangerously close to a planet surface, Starbuck's use of captured Cylon technology to return to Caprica, the intercutting of several plot threads in the teaser, a character contemplating suicide out of fear of being a Cylon, and difficulties between Helo and Sharon. In addition, Tyrol's assault of Cally is something of a parallel to Helo shooting Sharon in "Kobol's Last Gleaming"—in both cases, a man driven to rage physically and emotionally wounds a woman who loves him.<br />
*When Lt. Gaeta takes his shirt off in the head, he can be seen to still be sporting the tiger tatoo that we first saw in "[[Final Cut]]".<br />
*The combined Colonial fleet had 20 Raptors in this episode, of which 1 was destroyed before the end. Previously, ''Galactica'' was confirmed to have at least 5 left ([[The Farm]]), with the suggestion that there may be as many as 8 ([[Resistance]]). Doubtlessly, ''Pegasus'' brought at least an equal number of Raptors with it when it joined the Fleet, but 20 is still a high number for this. Perhaps a disproportionately large number of Raptors escaped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] during the [[Miniseries]]. Or perhaps like in real life with American Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers that carry a larger number of fighter aircraft compared to older Forrestal class carriers, the Pegasus, being a larger and more modern Battlestar than Galactica, it has the capability to carry a larger complement of Raptors. Unlike Vipers, Raptors do have FTL drives. We actually saw Boomer and Helo escaping the destruction of their Viper squadron, because Raptors do not engage in frontline combat, and because they have an extenstive ECM suite which Helo was trying to jam the Cylon virus signal with. Indeed, [[Crashdown]] was a Raptor ECO, but Boomer stated that he was not from ''Galactica'', but a refugee "from Triton" (either a battlestar or a planet). <br />
**Also, more Raptors could have been built with extra materials after the Viper squadrons were manufactured ([[Scar]]). <br />
*The jump error that landed the Raptor in the nebula was attributed to a "firmware error" by the crew. This may be an indication that there was firmware upgrade to deal with the increased FTL jump distances provided by the Cylon computer.<br />
*When Cavil is consoling Tyrol's fears that he might unknowingly be a Cylon sleeper agent, just like Boomer was, Tyrol asks him how he can know for sure. Cavil sarcastically answers that it's because maybe he's a Cylon, and he hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings: Number Six also sarcastically remarked to Baltar in the Miniseries that [[Aaron Doral]] could not be a Cylon, because she hadn't "seen him at any of the good Cylon parties"...but of course, Doral actually ''was'' a Cylon, implying that Cavil is truly more than he seems.<br />
*Tory actually paraphrases the title of this episode aloud, saying that the new planet offers people in the Fleet the hope that they can "lay down their burdens" and stop running.<br />
*During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, before the Teaser segment a "Parental Discretion Is Advised" black and white message was inserted. At the end of the Teaser, Tyrol beats Cally to a bloody pulp.<br />
*Lee Adama is now wearing a new uniform as Commander of ''Pegasus'': it is a Commander's uniform, denoted by the new red trim (with gold inner trim), and it has a white "''Pegasus'' BSG-62" patch, replacing his old gold "''Galactica'' BSG-75" patch.<br />
*Dualla's photo of Adama is the left half of a group shot with Kara Thrace and his brother Zak Adama. The original belongs to Thrace, and she has kept it in her locker on ''Galactica'' since the miniseries.<br />
*Dualla refers to "rivers of milk and honey" on the newly discovered planet. The phrase "land of milk and honey" is a common epithet for the promised land in the Torah, appearing in Exodus 3:8, 3:17, 13:5, 33:3, Leviticus 20:24, Number 13:27, 14:8, 16:13-14, and Deuteronomy 6:3.<br />
*Commander Lee Adama is seen eating noodles with chopsticks in his quarters, just like his father in "[[33]]", etc. <br />
*In the podcast, RDM states that originally instead of Starbuck, Helo, and Sharon leading the other Raptors in another Raptor, they would have been flying in the captured Heavy Raider itself. However, the 2 part season finale went overbudget and cuts had to be made, and the cost of building the Heavy Raider interior was deemed prohibitively expensive. Thus, they bring the Heavy Raider computer/organ with them in a normal Raptor. Moore said he believed that fans "wouldn't miss" an actual appearance by the Heavy Raider.<br />
*Col. [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]] appears in this epsiode twice but doesn't speak a single line.<br />
*This is the first time since the [[Mini Series]] that Helo is seen fulfilling his duties as an [[ECO]].<br />
*Apollo quips that if they find a habitable planet, he'll build the pilots a bar on it. Actor Jamie Bamber has said in interviews that part of Apollo's backstory is that he didn't know what he was going to do with his life; he's in the Colonial Fleet reserves, not a full-career commitment, etc. He said that right before the attack, Apollo was supposed to be considering leaving the service and just openning up a bar somewhere.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Chief Tyrol is worried that like'' Galactica''-Sharon, he could just as well be another Cylon sleeper agent:''<br />
:'''Chief Tyrol:''' How do you know I'm human?<br />
:'''Brother Cavil:''' Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.<br />
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*'''Brother Cavil:''' Do you know how useless prayer is? Chanting, and singing, and mucking about with old half-remembered lines of bad poetry? And you know what it gets you? Exactly nothing.<br />
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*'''Gaius Baltar:''' I'm not sure if you're aware, [[Tom Zarek|Tom]], but the mob isn't usually in the habit of electing ungodly apostates who denegrate people of faith.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*''In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]) said:'' "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aaron+Douglas Aaron Douglas] as CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne] as Specialist [[Cally]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Leah+Cairns Leah Cairns] [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Colin Lawrence as "Skulls" McCall<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 20<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] ([[Tom Zarek]])<br>[[Kate Vernon]] ([[Ellen Tigh]])<br>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] ([[Cavil|Brother Cavil]])<br />
| Writer=[[IMDB:nm1093194|Anne Cofell Saunders]], [[IMDB:nm0894156|Mark Verheiden]]<br />
| Story= <br />
| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
| Production=<br />
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| US Airdate= March 10, 2006<br />
| UK Airdate=<br />
| DVD=<br />
| Population= 49,550<br />
| Prev= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
| Next= TBA<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
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: ''Everything turns on its head as the survivors vote for a new president -- and vote for their fate.''<br />
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== Summary == <br />
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===On Caprica===<br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]], the marines, and the [[resistance (movement)|resistance]] continue to take fire from Cylon centurions and artillery. They make their way up a hill, and hold their position.<br />
*The Cylons hold fire, and Sharon remarks that the Cylons will attempt to capture them with non-lethal weapons, such as gas.<br />
*Eighteen hours later, they emerge to find that the Cylons have disappeared. [[Cavil]] -- who suddenly appears behind them -- announces that the Cylons have left the Twelve Colonies and that humanity was spared.<br />
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===In the Fleet===<br />
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*[[Cally]] is cleared back to work by [[Cottle|Dr. Cottle]], despite having her jaw wired shut (which elicits a sexist observation from the doctor). [[Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] visits her, apologizing for the attack. Cally forgives him, saying that she's always cared for him.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar|Dr. Baltar]] continues to gain in the polls. On ''[[Colonial One]]'', Tory mentions there's always a victory plan. [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] later calls a private meeting with Dr. Baltar, asking to deliver a joint statement of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_%28verb%29 tabling] the issue of colonization until after the election, which Baltar rejects. <br />
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*[[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] returns to ''[[Galactica (RDM)|Galactica]]'', with the resistance fighters, much to the delight of Admiral Adama. She mentions the fact that the Cylons have left Caprica, and a man appearing to be Brother Cavill confirms it. He also says he has a message, but is attacked by Chief Tyrol, claiming he's a Cylon. Both Cavill and Caprica-Sharon are escorted to the brig under marine guard.<br />
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*The other Cavill (from last episode) is also taken to the brig, claiming he's not a Cylon, but changes his tune upon seeing his "brother", as he calls him. Both Cavills then talk about the fact that the “war heroes” (Caprica Six & ''Galactica''-Sharon) have talked about how the attack of the colonies and the pursuit of the fleet were mistakes. They were told to relay the message that man and Cylon will go their separate ways. Both Roslin and Admiral Adama are less than trusting regarding the message.<br />
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*Election Day has arrived and Baltar has an apparent five thousand-vote lead over Roslin with only a few ships left. On ''Colonial One'', Tory makes a call to ''Galactica'', putting a plan into action. <br />
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*Amazingly, Roslin initially appears to have retained the presidency. While most are celebrating, Lt. Gaeta makes a starting discovery regarding the votes, and informs the Admiral that Col. Tigh may be involved in a conspiracy to throw the election.<br />
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*Admiral Adama confronts Roslin regarding the conspiracy, saying he has a confession to rig the vote. Roslin admits her involvement and Adama is disappointed.<br />
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*Baltar is informed of his nomination as President. He's less than pleased, vowing to have full investigation in time. President-elect Baltar then orders a course for “New Caprica”.<br />
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*[[Gaius Baltar]] is sworn in as the new President of the Twelve Colonies, and orders the immediate colonization of New Caprica.<br />
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*''[[Cloud 9]]'' is destroyed by a nuclear blast, Gina being present before the explosion; in addition to the ''Cloud 9'', at least two other ships are destroyed in the blast. Admiral Adama reports to the president that this may be a Cylon attack, but Baltar ignores him and presses forward with colonization.<br />
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===One Year Later===<br />
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*[[Felix Gaeta|Mr. Gaeta]] is reporting to the President regarding a Union issue aboard Colonial One, now down on the planet. Baltar is upset, saying there have been no Cylon attacks but the people still complain. He has regressed, turning to alcohol, medication, and womanizing.<br />
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*Admiral Adama, now donning a mustache, is walking around a near-empty Galactica, the ship falling into disarray. Over half of the crew has moved down to the planet, and they are running on such a skeleton crew that they barely have enough pilots to fly training missions, much less a good CAP. Adama has a discussion with Tigh about going down to the planet, which Tigh reluctantly agrees to.<br />
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*[[Samuel Anders|Anders]], now Kara’s husband, is sick. Dr. Cottle is saying he can’t do much for him, saying there’s no medication available.<br />
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*Kara runs into the Tighs as [[Tyrol]], now a union boss, is making a speech to begin a strike, a pregnant Cally by his side. Saul mentions that there should be some medicine aboard Pegasus.<br />
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*Kara calls Lee aboard Pegasus to requesting medication. Dualla is now an officer, serving by Lee Adama's side in Pegasus' CIC. Before Lee can reply, Dualla catches something on [[DRADIS]]. <br />
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*A fleet of [[Cylon]] [[Basestar (RDM)|basestar]]s arrive in orbit around New Caprica. The Adamas are having a discussion about what to do, when [[Helo]] asks if alert fighters should be launched. Admiral Adama keeps them in as the defense fleet jumps away.<br />
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*Mr. Gaeta informs the President of the Cylon approach. Later, before his assembled staff, copies of Number 5, 8, and 6 approach the President. The Cylons declare that as long as there’s no resistance, no harm will come. President Baltar declares surrender on behalf of the colonists, and as Cylon armies occupy the planet, Kara vows to resist.<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
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*What "number" is Cavill?<br />
*Where did the defense fleet jump to?<br />
**Likely a prearranged rendezvous point, similar to that of the miniseries.<br />
*Where is Caprica-Sharon?<br />
**Most likely, still in ''Galactica'''s brig. This is probably why Helo is still aboard ship, having taken a CIC officer's position.<br />
*What happened to Zarek?<br />
*Why is Leoben looking for Starbuck, specifically?<br />
** Could it be the same [[Leoben Conoy]] that Starbuck interrogated in "[[Flesh and Bone]]"?<br />
*** As seen with ''Galactica''-Sharon, it is distinctly possible that that particular Leoben was lying when he said he'd actually die and not download. <br />
*Did the Cavils lie about the pursuit of humanity being a mistake? Or were they telling the truth?<br />
** If they were telling the truth, perhaps not all Cylons are readily able to admit and rectify their mistakes as the Cavils believed.<br />
*Why has the population (until Tyrol's recent union speech) accepted Baltar's imperious rule? People were hardly so passive under Roslin. Indeed, Adama executed a military coup over a rather less important issue than giving a nuclear weapon to a Cylon agent.<br />
**Admiral Adama wasn't conclusive as to how the weapon got on board Cloud Nine.<br />
***Baltar pointed out there have been no attacks since he took office. Under Roslin the attacks were common. Perhaps for a year the people decided they preferred the safety Baltar gave them to their liberties.<br />
*Are the Six and Eight that Baltar surrendered to [[Caprica-Six]] and [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]]?<br />
**Judging from Six's reaction to Baltar, almost definately.<br />
*Where did the Cylon fleets go, after they left the Twelve Colonies? Cavil was deliberatly vague when asked if they simply returned to the [[Cylon homeworld]].<br />
*How many people died in the Cloud Nine explosion?<br />
*When Gina-Six was instantly vaporized due to being only two feet from a nuclear detonation, did she still transmit her consciousness? Was she even capable of transmitting considering that any internal hardware responsible for this task would have been instantly destroyed?<br />
**They have already established that with the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed, Cylon in the fleet that are killed will ''actually'' die. Gina expressed suicidal impulses as early as "[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]".<br />
*Given Roslin's memories of Baltar with Six, why didn't Admiral Adama suspect Baltar of handing over the nuke to the cylons? If he did suspect him, why not act on it?<br />
**He had no real proof.<br />
*Did the events of "One Year Later" actually happen, or were they a dream or vision sequence given to Baltar?<br />
**Although Baltar has had elaborate visions in the past, this vision left Baltar's point of view several times, addressing issues such as the marriage of Kara to Sam Anders and Adama's friendship with Tigh that are of little knowledge or importance to Baltar.<br />
***Ron D. Moore has stated in interviews that the first 4-5 episodes of season 3 will deal with the Cylon occupation of New Caprica, and unless a vast swath of episodes is going to be a dream sequence, all of these "one year later" events ''really'' happen.<br />
*Why was it so easy for Adama to hide the collusion of the rigged election from the press, and why were there no consequences?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Baltar's arrogance seems to have led to corrupt rule during his year on New Caprica—he replaces Roslin's modest desk with a larger, elaborate one, replaces the population count whiteboard with a portrait of himself, and keeps a harem aboard the landed Colonial One.<br />
*After a whole year, everyone is still living in tents. There is a vital shortage of medicine, the military is of no use, and labor conditions are apparently intolerable. Baltar's administration is apparently as incompetent as Roslin feared. <br />
*Tyrol's union speech alludes to Mario Savio's address during the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley in 1964.<br />
*It's ironic that the obligations of duty keep Lee Adama aboard Pegasus while everyone else goes planetside—he is a reserve officer, and promised to build his pilots a bar as soon as they found a habitable planet.<br />
*Ron Moore has once again decided to play with viewer's expectations; in the podcast for "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]" Moore commented on how everyone assumed that ''Pegasus'' would be destroyed by the end of the episode, and thus he thought it would be a good twist to keep ''Pegasus'' alive as another ship in the Fleet. Here, many viewers assumed that the nuke that Baltar gave to Gina in "[[Epiphanies]]" would be used to destroy ''Pegasus'' this time, but it wasn't.<br />
*29 people died between this episode and the preceding one? One or two Raptors were lost, and some Marines died on Caprica, but that doesn't seem high enough.<br />
**I thought this was wierd too... Is it possible they took out all of the people who left in the raptors because they were not apart of the fleet at the end of the previous episode?<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
* '''According to Ron Moore's podcast, although Scifi Channel was willing to air this episode as a 90-minute special, it had to be heavily edited down for international distribution; outside of the United States, viewers will only see a 1 hour version of the episode, which Moore regards as "almost incomprehensible".''' Many plot threads, such as the entire Cally/Tyrol subplot, were completely removed from the one hour version.<br />
* Ron Moore's podcast for episode 13, [[Epiphanies]], states that the Nuke given to Gina will come back in this episode, to the benefit of the Cylons.<br />
*In RDM's podcast for the previous episode, he said that in early drafts of this special 90 minute long episode, the writers actually tried to make it a 2 hour special, but this was soon dropped (these times are including commercials).<br />
*The election board appears to have a definative list of the names of all of the ships in [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Not all of them are clearly visible, but this would seem to indicate that the writers do have an actual list that they get new ship names from. Ship names visible on the chart are: Demetrius, Diomedes, Embla Brokk, Enkidu, Epheme, Galactica, Gideon, Gemenon Traveller, Greenleaf, Monarch, Odysseus, Pegasus, Persephone, Prometheus, Swordfish<br />
*The framed photo of President Roslin and [[Billy Keikeya]] was still on her desk during the election.<br />
*When Roslin "won" the rigged election results, Roslin received 24,265 votes, while Baltar recieved 22,266. This means that the elligible voters in the Fleet number 46,531. In the podcast, RDM explains that he quickly came up with these numbers, to try to reflect roughly how many survivors are below the voting age.<br />
*Toward the end of the episode, President Baltar refers to a government body called the "People's Council". This may be the proportionally elected lower house mentioned in by RDM in his [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/01/index.html#a000016 blog post] on January 30, 2005.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''The Cylons occupy New Caprica:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' "What do we do now, Captain?"<br />
:'''Starbuck:''' "Same thing we always do. Fight them until we can't."<br />
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*''Trying to bring order to a Union meeting:''<br />
:'''Tyrol:''' Everyone, please be quiet.<br />
:'''Cally:''' Hey! Shut the frak up! (''crowd quiets down'')<br />
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== Official Statements ==<br />
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From the official site (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/):<br />
When Baltar wins the vote, Roslin considers stealing the election because she believes he is a Cylon collaborator.<br />
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== Statistics ==<br />
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=== Guest Stars ===<br />
*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Cavil|Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[[Michael Trucco]] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[[Kate Vernon]] as [[Ellen Tigh]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0722413/ Donnelly Rhodes] as Dr. [[Cottle]]<br />
*[[Callum Keith Rennie]] as [[Leoben Conoy]]<br />
*[[Matthew Bennett]] as [[Aaron Doral]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
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==D'anna Biers==<br />
[[D'anna Biers|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Lucy Lawless]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
*Season 3<br />
**10 episodes<br />
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==Helena Cain==<br />
[[Helena Cain|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Michelle Forbes]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
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==Cally==<br />
[[Cally|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Water]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Flight of the Phoenix ]] <br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
** [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Leoben Conoy==<br />
[[Leoben Conoy|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Callum Keith Rennie]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
<br />
==Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza==<br />
[[Brendan Constanza|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Bodie Olmos]]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[Final Cut]]<br />
** [[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Cottle (Doctor)==<br />
[[Cottle|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Donnelly+Rhodes Donnelly Rhodes]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix ]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Doral==<br />
[[Aaron Doral|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Matthew Bennett]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
<br />
==Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson==<br />
[[Margaret Edmonson|Character Biography]]<br />
<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1489668/ Leah Cairns]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix]]<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Elosha==<br />
[[Elosha|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lorena+Gale Lorena Gale]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Gina==<br />
[[Gina|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Tricia Helfer]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
<br />
==Hadrian==<br />
[[Hadrian|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Jill Teed]]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Act of Contrition]]<br />
**[[Litmus]]<br />
<br />
==Sekou Hamilton==<br />
[[Sekou Hamilton|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Biski Gugushe]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Louanne "Kat" Katraine==<br />
[[Louanne Katraine|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lucianna+Carro Lucianna Carro]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Kelly==<br />
[[Aaron Kelly|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0648153/ Ty Olsson]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
<br />
==Meier==<br />
[[Meier|Character Biography]]<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001664/ James Remar]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Home, Part II]]<br />
<br />
=="Chuckles" Perry==<br />
[[Perry|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Terry+Chen Terry Chen]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
<br />
==Dwight "Flat Top" Saunders==<br />
[[Dwight Saunders|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Colby+Johannson Colby Johannson]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
<br />
== Simon==<br />
[[Simon|Character Biography]]<br><br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
<br />
==Socinus==<br />
[[Socinus|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Alonso+Oyarzun Alonso Oyarzun]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
<br />
==Ellen Tigh==<br />
[[Ellen Tigh|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Kate Vernon]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Sacrifice]]<br />
<br />
==Tom Zarek==<br />
[[Tom Zarek|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Richard Hatch]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
** [[Home, Part II]]<br />
** [[Black Market]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
** [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:A to Z]]<br />
[[Category:Characters|*]]<br />
[[Category:RDM]]<br />
[[Category:Lists]]</div>Cynthiahttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Recurring_Character_Appearances_(RDM)&diff=36332List of Recurring Character Appearances (RDM)2006-03-07T01:08:20Z<p>Cynthia: /* Ellen Tigh */</p>
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<div>: ''For a more succinct list, refer to: [[List of Recurring Characters (RDM)]].''<br />
<br />
==D'anna Biers==<br />
[[D'anna Biers|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Lucy Lawless]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
*Season 3<br />
**10 episodes<br />
<br />
==Helena Cain==<br />
[[Helena Cain|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Michelle Forbes]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
<br />
==Cally==<br />
[[Cally|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Water]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Flight of the Phoenix ]] <br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
** [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Leoben Conoy==<br />
[[Leoben Conoy|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Callum Keith Rennie]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
<br />
==Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza==<br />
[[Brendan Constanza|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Bodie Olmos]]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[Final Cut]]<br />
** [[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Cottle (Doctor)==<br />
[[Cottle|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Donnelly+Rhodes Donnelly Rhodes]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix ]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Doral==<br />
[[Aaron Doral|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Matthew Bennett]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
<br />
==Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson==<br />
[[Margaret Edmonson|Character Biography]]<br />
<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1489668/ Leah Cairns]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix]]<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Elosha==<br />
[[Elosha|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lorena+Gale Lorena Gale]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Gina==<br />
[[Gina|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Tricia Helfer]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
<br />
==Hadrian==<br />
[[Hadrian|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Jill Teed]]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Act of Contrition]]<br />
**[[Litmus]]<br />
<br />
==Sekou Hamilton==<br />
[[Sekou Hamilton|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Biski Gugushe]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Louanne "Kat" Katraine==<br />
[[Louanne Katraine|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lucianna+Carro Lucianna Carro]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Kelly==<br />
[[Aaron Kelly|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0648153/ Ty Olsson]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
<br />
==Meier==<br />
[[Meier|Character Biography]]<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001664/ James Remar]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Home, Part II]]<br />
<br />
=="Chuckles" Perry==<br />
[[Perry|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Terry+Chen Terry Chen]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
<br />
==Dwight "Flat Top" Saunders==<br />
[[Dwight Saunders|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Colby+Johannson Colby Johannson]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
<br />
== Simon==<br />
[[Simon|Character Biography]]<br><br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
<br />
==Socinus==<br />
[[Socinus|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Alonso+Oyarzun Alonso Oyarzun]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
<br />
==Ellen Tigh==<br />
[[Ellen Tigh|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Kate Vernon]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Sacrifice]]<br />
<br />
==Tom Zarek==<br />
[[Tom Zarek|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Richard Hatch]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
** [[Home, Part II]]<br />
** [[Black Market]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:A to Z]]<br />
[[Category:Characters|*]]<br />
[[Category:RDM]]<br />
[[Category:Lists]]</div>Cynthiahttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Recurring_Character_Appearances_(RDM)&diff=36331List of Recurring Character Appearances (RDM)2006-03-07T01:07:06Z<p>Cynthia: /* Socinus */</p>
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<div>: ''For a more succinct list, refer to: [[List of Recurring Characters (RDM)]].''<br />
<br />
==D'anna Biers==<br />
[[D'anna Biers|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Lucy Lawless]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
*Season 3<br />
**10 episodes<br />
<br />
==Helena Cain==<br />
[[Helena Cain|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Michelle Forbes]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
<br />
==Cally==<br />
[[Cally|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Water]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Flight of the Phoenix ]] <br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
** [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Leoben Conoy==<br />
[[Leoben Conoy|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Callum Keith Rennie]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
<br />
==Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza==<br />
[[Brendan Constanza|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Bodie Olmos]]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[Final Cut]]<br />
** [[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Cottle (Doctor)==<br />
[[Cottle|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Donnelly+Rhodes Donnelly Rhodes]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix ]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Doral==<br />
[[Aaron Doral|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Matthew Bennett]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
<br />
==Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson==<br />
[[Margaret Edmonson|Character Biography]]<br />
<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1489668/ Leah Cairns]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix]]<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Elosha==<br />
[[Elosha|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lorena+Gale Lorena Gale]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Gina==<br />
[[Gina|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Tricia Helfer]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
<br />
==Hadrian==<br />
[[Hadrian|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Jill Teed]]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Act of Contrition]]<br />
**[[Litmus]]<br />
<br />
==Sekou Hamilton==<br />
[[Sekou Hamilton|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Biski Gugushe]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Louanne "Kat" Katraine==<br />
[[Louanne Katraine|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lucianna+Carro Lucianna Carro]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Kelly==<br />
[[Aaron Kelly|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0648153/ Ty Olsson]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
<br />
==Meier==<br />
[[Meier|Character Biography]]<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001664/ James Remar]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Home, Part II]]<br />
<br />
=="Chuckles" Perry==<br />
[[Perry|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Terry+Chen Terry Chen]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
<br />
==Dwight "Flat Top" Saunders==<br />
[[Dwight Saunders|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Colby+Johannson Colby Johannson]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
<br />
== Simon==<br />
[[Simon|Character Biography]]<br><br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
<br />
==Socinus==<br />
[[Socinus|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Alonso+Oyarzun Alonso Oyarzun]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
<br />
==Ellen Tigh==<br />
[[Ellen Tigh|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Kate Vernon]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Secrets and Lies]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Sacrifice]]<br />
<br />
==Tom Zarek==<br />
[[Tom Zarek|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Richard Hatch]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
** [[Home, Part II]]<br />
** [[Black Market]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:A to Z]]<br />
[[Category:Characters|*]]<br />
[[Category:RDM]]<br />
[[Category:Lists]]</div>Cynthiahttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Recurring_Character_Appearances_(RDM)&diff=36330List of Recurring Character Appearances (RDM)2006-03-07T01:03:32Z<p>Cynthia: /* Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza */</p>
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<div>: ''For a more succinct list, refer to: [[List of Recurring Characters (RDM)]].''<br />
<br />
==D'anna Biers==<br />
[[D'anna Biers|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Lucy Lawless]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
*Season 3<br />
**10 episodes<br />
<br />
==Helena Cain==<br />
[[Helena Cain|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Michelle Forbes]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
<br />
==Cally==<br />
[[Cally|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Water]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Flight of the Phoenix ]] <br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
** [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Leoben Conoy==<br />
[[Leoben Conoy|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Callum Keith Rennie]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
<br />
==Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza==<br />
[[Brendan Constanza|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Bodie Olmos]]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[Final Cut]]<br />
** [[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Cottle (Doctor)==<br />
[[Cottle|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Donnelly+Rhodes Donnelly Rhodes]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix ]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Doral==<br />
[[Aaron Doral|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Matthew Bennett]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
<br />
==Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson==<br />
[[Margaret Edmonson|Character Biography]]<br />
<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1489668/ Leah Cairns]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix]]<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Elosha==<br />
[[Elosha|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lorena+Gale Lorena Gale]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Gina==<br />
[[Gina|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Tricia Helfer]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
<br />
==Hadrian==<br />
[[Hadrian|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Jill Teed]]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Act of Contrition]]<br />
**[[Litmus]]<br />
<br />
==Sekou Hamilton==<br />
[[Sekou Hamilton|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Biski Gugushe]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Louanne "Kat" Katraine==<br />
[[Louanne Katraine|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lucianna+Carro Lucianna Carro]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Kelly==<br />
[[Aaron Kelly|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0648153/ Ty Olsson]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
<br />
==Meier==<br />
[[Meier|Character Biography]]<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001664/ James Remar]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Home, Part II]]<br />
<br />
=="Chuckles" Perry==<br />
[[Perry|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Terry+Chen Terry Chen]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
<br />
==Dwight "Flat Top" Saunders==<br />
[[Dwight Saunders|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Colby+Johannson Colby Johannson]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
<br />
== Simon==<br />
[[Simon|Character Biography]]<br><br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
<br />
==Socinus==<br />
[[Socinus|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Alonso+Oyarzun Alonso Oyarzun]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
<br />
==Ellen Tigh==<br />
[[Ellen Tigh|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Kate Vernon]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Secrets and Lies]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Sacrifice]]<br />
<br />
==Tom Zarek==<br />
[[Tom Zarek|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Richard Hatch]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
** [[Home, Part II]]<br />
** [[Black Market]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:A to Z]]<br />
[[Category:Characters|*]]<br />
[[Category:RDM]]<br />
[[Category:Lists]]</div>Cynthiahttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Recurring_Character_Appearances_(RDM)&diff=36329List of Recurring Character Appearances (RDM)2006-03-07T01:01:41Z<p>Cynthia: /* Cally */</p>
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<div>: ''For a more succinct list, refer to: [[List of Recurring Characters (RDM)]].''<br />
<br />
==D'anna Biers==<br />
[[D'anna Biers|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Lucy Lawless]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
*Season 3<br />
**10 episodes<br />
<br />
==Helena Cain==<br />
[[Helena Cain|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Michelle Forbes]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
<br />
==Cally==<br />
[[Cally|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Water]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[The Farm]]<br />
** [[Flight of the Phoenix ]] <br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
** [[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
** [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Leoben Conoy==<br />
[[Leoben Conoy|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Callum Keith Rennie]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
<br />
==Brendan "Hot Dog" Constanza==<br />
[[Brendan Constanza|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Bodie Olmos]]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
** [[Final Cut]]<br />
<br />
==Cottle (Doctor)==<br />
[[Cottle|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Donnelly+Rhodes Donnelly Rhodes]<br />
* Season One (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Six Degrees of Separation]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix ]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[The Captain's Hand]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Doral==<br />
[[Aaron Doral|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Matthew Bennett]]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]]<br />
*Season 2<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Downloaded]]<br />
<br />
==Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson==<br />
[[Margaret Edmonson|Character Biography]]<br />
<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1489668/ Leah Cairns]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Fragged]]<br />
**[[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Flight of the Phoenix]]<br />
**[[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Black Market]]<br />
**[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Elosha==<br />
[[Elosha|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lorena+Gale Lorena Gale]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Gina==<br />
[[Gina|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Tricia Helfer]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
** [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]<br />
** [[Epiphanies]]<br />
<br />
==Hadrian==<br />
[[Hadrian|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Jill Teed]]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
**[[Act of Contrition]]<br />
**[[Litmus]]<br />
<br />
==Sekou Hamilton==<br />
[[Sekou Hamilton|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Biski Gugushe]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Flesh and Bone]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
** [[Home, Part I]]<br />
<br />
==Louanne "Kat" Katraine==<br />
[[Louanne Katraine|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Lucianna+Carro Lucianna Carro]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Scattered]]<br />
**[[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Resurrection Ship, Part I]]<br />
**[[Epiphanies]]<br />
**[[Scar]]<br />
<br />
==Aaron Kelly==<br />
[[Aaron Kelly|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0648153/ Ty Olsson]<br />
* [[Mini-Series]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
<br />
==Meier==<br />
[[Meier|Character Biography]]<br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001664/ James Remar]<br />
*Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[Home, Part I]]<br />
**[[Home, Part II]]<br />
<br />
=="Chuckles" Perry==<br />
[[Perry|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Terry+Chen Terry Chen]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
** [[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]<br />
<br />
==Dwight "Flat Top" Saunders==<br />
[[Dwight Saunders|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Colby+Johannson Colby Johannson]<br />
*Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Act of Contrition]]<br />
<br />
== Simon==<br />
[[Simon|Character Biography]]<br><br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
**[[The Farm]]<br />
<br />
==Socinus==<br />
[[Socinus|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Alonso+Oyarzun Alonso Oyarzun]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[33]]<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Litmus]]<br />
** [[You Can't Go Home Again]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]<br />
** [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
<br />
==Ellen Tigh==<br />
[[Ellen Tigh|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Kate Vernon]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
** [[Secrets and Lies]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Scattered]]<br />
** [[Valley of Darkness]]<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
**[[Final Cut]]<br />
**[[Sacrifice]]<br />
<br />
==Tom Zarek==<br />
[[Tom Zarek|Character Biography]]<br><br />
Played by: [[Richard Hatch]]<br />
* Season 1 (2004/5)<br />
** [[Bastille Day]]<br />
** [[Colonial Day]]<br />
* Season 2 (2005/6)<br />
** [[Fragged]]<br />
** [[Resistance]]<br />
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| Title= Scar<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 15<br />
| Guests=<br />
| Writer= [[David Weddle]] and [[Bradley Thompson]]<br />
| Story= <br />
| Director= [[IMDB:nm0002749|Michael Nankin]]<br />
| Production=<br />
| Rating= 1.9<br />
| US Airdate=February 3 2006<br />
| UK Airdate=<br />
| DVD=<br />
| Population= 49,593<br />
| Prev= [[Black Market]]<br />
| Next= [[Sacrifice]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
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: ''An ace Cylon Raider, nicknamed "[[Scar (Raider)|Scar]]" by the [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilots, has been causing problems for the Fleet. [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] compete to hunt it down while Starbuck pines for [[Samuel Anders|"a dead guy"]].''<br />
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== Summary == <br />
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* Several [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilots have been killed while guarding the ''[[Majahual]]'', an ore mining ship located on top of metal ore-rich asteroid. The Fleet's goal is to gather sufficient ore there to create two new squadrons of Vipers.<br />
* With the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed as well as most of the nearest Cylon fleet, the Cylons are far less brazen in attacks, sending only a few Raiders to harass the mining operation.<br />
* ''Galactica'' stays behind to guard the mining operation with their [[CAP]], while ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' stays with the civilian fleet at a remote location.<br />
* There is too much debris in the system to use [[DRADIS]] to quickly sight and kill the Raiders. [[Combat Air Patrol]]s are needed instead, using their [[Mark One Eyeball]] to find the Raiders.<br />
* One particular Raider, known as "[[Scar]]" is the cause of the pilot deaths.<br />
* [[Kat]], now a seasoned and very talented pilot, challenges [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] over the "Top Gun" beer stein (currently held by Thrace) with the downing of Scar.<br />
* Thrace's depression over the inability to convince Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] and President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] to return to Caprica to rescue [[Samuel Anders]] and his [[resistance (movement)|resistance]] causes her to drink excessively and behave very rashly. To suppress her feelings on the inability to fulfill her promise, Thrace begins to tell herself that Anders is dead.<br />
*Thrace turns to [[Sharon Valerii]] for advice regarding Scar. Valerii explains that Raiders can reincarnate as well, and with the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed, Scar will do anything to survive.<br />
*Valerii also mentions that "he probably hates you (Thrace) as much as you hate him", as well as asking "how many of us" ''[sic]'' did Scar kill. In an unguarded moment, Valerii and Thrace reminisce over old times, but when Valerii reaches to touch Thrace in friendship, [[marines]] on guard make it clear that it is not permitted. As a distraught Thrace leaves, Sharon tells her to be careful.<br />
* When a rookie pilot from ''Pegasus'', [[Brent Baxton|BB]], is killed, Kat berates Starbuck for giving him "textbook" advice. Later, Kat berates a hungover Starbuck again for being late to lead her own pilot's briefing as well as assigning [[Joseph Clark|Jo-Jo]] in her place on CAP, which leads to his death at the hands of Scar.<br />
* Thrace and [[Lee Adama]] talk over drinks, when Thrace propositions Adama for a "quick lay." The two pilots attack each other, clothes flying, but Thrace is too aggressive, which turns Adama's desire almost completely off. He asks her what was wrong, and she admits that her feelings for Samuel Anders are very confused. When Adama tells her that it's the "living guys" she can't deal with, Thrace is so confused that she slaps Adama, then kisses him for his thoughtfulness in reminding her that he is her friend before she leaves his quarters.<br />
* Starbuck is on patrol with Kat as her wingman when they spot a Raider. Both chase the Raider, but Scar is using that second Raider as a decoy and tries to ambush them from behind.<br />
* Starbuck's instincts tell her to check their "six" (rear), which successfully locates Scar but leaves her Viper with moderate damage when Scar scores hits on her Viper.<br />
*Starbuck leads Scar into a canyon on an asteroid, flips, and flies at Scar on a collision course. Kat shouts at Starbuck to break off as Scar is a machine and won't break off. Starbuck realizes this; she is making a suicide run, as her mind begins to drift out of focus as she thinks of Anders. <br />
* At the last moment, Starbuck breaks off her [[CBDR]] run, and Scar chases her. Starbuck instructs Kat to ambush him from behind while Starbuck lures him into Kat's killzone, in a similar ambush that Scar attempted on them. The ambush is successful, with Kat winning her challenge over Starbuck.<br />
* Starbuck fills the "Top Gun" beer stein for Kat and congratulates her. Then, Starbuck praises the memory of the many pilots lost to Scar and past battles. Admiral Adama and Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]], both laudable Viper pilots themselves in the [[Cylon War]], attend the celebration. Admiral Adama ends the tribute with "[[So say we all]]."<br />
* Training with Helo in the gym, Starbuck says that she could have killed Scar, but she would have killed herself in the process. Helo tells her that backing off and letting her wingman get the kill was the right thing to do. Helo notes that Starbuck didn't make the suicide run, because she has something to live for now in Anders.<br />
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== Questions == <br />
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*Is Scar a reincarnation of the Cylon Raider that Starbuck captures in "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]?"<br />
*The Fleet has obtained enough metal ore to (eventually) construct two new squadrons of Vipers: will they be Mark II's, or Mark VII's?<br />
**It is likely that the ''Pegasus'' production facilities will create Mark VIIs, as the ''Pegasus'' is a more modern battlestar than ''Galactica'' (which does not have these facilities). Since the Mark IIs are outdated models that were only on ''Galactica'' for museum purposes, the blueprints and equipment molds in the production facilities are most likely not set to produce equipment for the older Vipers.<br />
**They may also decide to produce more of the stealth fighters, as they have now seen their combat and surprise capabilities.<br />
*Did Starbuck and Apollo actually have sexual intercourse briefly and then stop, or did they never actually get that far?<br />
*With Thrace serving on ''Galactica'', who is instructing [[nugget]]s on ''Pegasus''?<br />
*If Raiders reincarnate so that Cylon forces can benefit from their learned experience, why don't Centurions? (It was noted that Centurions cannot reincarnate in [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2006/01/#a000114 RDM's January 20 blog entry].)<br />
**The three basic Cylon models represent something of a spectrum of advancement: from their original, purely mechanical form (the Centurions), to the almost-entirely "organic" forms (the humanoid Cylons). The Raiders are described (podcast, "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]") as supposed to be "in the gap" between [[Number Six]] and a Centurion. Centurions cannot resurrect, and they also contain none of the more advanced bio-mechanical technology the Cylons have developed (as demonstrated by destroyed Centurions, etc). Raiders, on the other hand, ''do'' contain "bio-mechanical" technology, albeit not as advanced as that used in the humanoid Cylons. Perhaps the resurrection technology is based on that bio-mechanical "wetware".<br />
**It is possible that Centurions are not reincarnated, as so relatively few were lost in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], that to reincarnate any lost to resistance attacks may not be cost-effective when compared against the need to have experienced fighters against ''Galactica's'' battlegroup.<br />
* Do Cylon Basestars also have the ability to reincarnate given that they appear to be composed of similar bio-mechanical technology as the Raiders?<br />
**Although humanoid Cylons are truly sentient, Raiders are not truly sentient but have the self-awareness level of an animal. Perhaps, although Basestars make use of some bio-mechanical materials, are even less developed, and they do not actually possess a "consciousness" at all. <br />
*As Apollo was not flying in this episode and is in a supporting role, could the events of "Scar" be taking place concurrently with the events of "[[Black Market]]," given that neither Starbuck or Kat are featured in that episode?<br />
**Based on the population counts or Fleet status, it's not likely that the episode events are running concurrently. In "Black Market," the Fleet is united (else, Apollo could not fly to ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' or the ''[[Prometheus]]''). In "Scar," ''Galactica'' and the ''Majahual'' are in one system while ''Pegasus'' guards the rest of the Fleet in another location.<br />
**As CAG of two battlestars, Apollo need not fly in every mission now with the relatively high levels of existing pilots and new recruits from ''Pegasus'' as well as ''Galactica's'' own pilots. Since Starbuck appears to have returned to her 2nd pilot in command status (acting as CAG in Apollo's absence), she manages some CAG responsibilities on ''Galactica'', such as pilot briefings. Kat appears to brief pilots as well, suggesting she is higher in the pilot command chain than before.<br />
*How are the consciousnesses of dead Raiders "stored"? The resurrection ship images only showed humanoid bodies awaiting download of dead Humano-Cylons, no full Raiders nor dissociated bio-mechanical brains awaiting transfer.<br />
**There may have been bio-mechanical brains in storage we didn't see; also, the ship acts as a transmitter and could simply transmit their consciousnesses to accompanying basestars.<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*The title "Scar" refers to the "ace" Cylon Raider this episode centers around. While all Cylon Raiders appear visually identical, this particular unit has extensive hull damage, whether from asteroid impacts, scoring from near-misses or other debris, giving it a weathered, craggy look - essentially, "battle scars".<br />
*Many of the pilots Starbuck toasts are minor and recurring characters who have died in previous episodes. In the order she lists them:<br />
**[[Dwight Saunders|Flat Top]] - killed in deck accident in "[[Act of Contrition]]", along with twelve others.<br />
**[[Perry|Chuckles]] - killed in action during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] in "[[The Hand of God]]".<br />
**[["Jolly" Anders|Jolly]] - killed in action in the [[Miniseries]], along with nineteen others.<br />
**[[Crashdown]] - shot by Dr. Gaius Baltar in "[[Fragged]]".<br />
**[[Flyboy]] - killed in action by a Cylon Centurion in [[Valley of Darkness]].<br />
**[[Stepchild]] - killed in action during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] in "[[The Hand of God]]".<br />
**[[Fireball]] - killed in action during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] in "[[The Hand of God]]".<br />
*Among those not mentioned were Capt. [[Jackson Spencer|Jackson "Ripper" Spencer]], KIA in the [[Miniseries]], and [[Karma]], KIA in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]".<br />
**This may be truthfully reflecting Starbuck's earlier comment that she can't remember the names of all of the pilots that have died. This is acknowledged in the podcast.<br />
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*During the "previously on Battlestar Galactica" intro, a clip of a scene which has never actually aired before in any episode was played. Judging by Adama's rank insignia, it appears to be from the time when he was still a Commander. In the scene, Starbuck argues to Adama and Roslin that they must mount a rescue operation to save the Caprica Resistance, but Adama and Roslin are in agreement that it is impossible and tell her they can't. What episode this was originally meant for is unknown:<br />
**'''Thrace: '''The Resistance base camp is here (''points at a map'') 300 klicks north of the only Cylon airbase in the area...<br />
**'''Roslin: ''' I respect what you're trying to do here, however...<br />
**'''Thrace: ''' We have a ''duty'' to the people we left behind.<br />
**'''Adama: ''' We understand that.<br />
**'''Thrace: ''' We ''have to'' find a way to Jump back to Caprica, and go get them--<br />
**'''Adama: '''--Kara!<br />
*During the "in this episode" sequence of the credits, there are two images not seen in the episode; one of Starbuck standing at a distance, and one of a gun being placed before the camera. These could have been cut from the training scene.<br />
* This episode was the third of the most recent four episodes to begin ''[[Wikipedia:In medias res|in medias res]]'', after [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] and [[Black Market]]. Though the technique was used well in this episode -- aside from the use of the same endpoint, with Starbuck and Scar charging toward each other, for both acts III and IV -- its apparent prevalance in the series here detracts from the episode. (However, [[RDM|RDM's]] [[podcast]] for "[[Black Market]]" indicates that beginning that episode with Lee's confrontation with [[Phelan]] was not part of the original script and was done as an act of "desperation".)<br />
**This episode's use of the flashbacks, going back and forth between past and current events, resembled "[[Act of Contrition]]" than either of the Season Two episodes mentioned above.<br />
**While the openings of "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]" and "[[Black Market]]" were a quick teaser from the end of the episode, jumping back to the beginning (to "hook" the audience), this entire episode was structured around such flashbacks. RDM stated that the flashbacks in the other episodes were done to get the audience's attention, (as stated above, "Black Market" wasn't even supposed to have this). "[[Epiphanies]]" also had flashbacks, but these were not ''in media res'' flashforwards to later events, but straightforward flashbacks. <br />
*Regular series writers David Weddle and Bradley Thompson seem more responsible than anyone else for expanding the minor pilot characters as the series has progressed. They wrote "[[Act of Contrition]]", in which the nuggets were introduced, then "[[The Hand of God]]", which was the second time they all appeared (and when Chuckles died). Kat and Hot Dog then reappeared in "Scattered" and "Valley of Darkness", which Weddle and Thompson also wrote. The character of Kat received more development since "Flight of the Phoenix", the writers' most recent entry before this episode.<br />
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== Notes == <br />
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*As most of this episode is told in flashback, the survivor count is a little confusing. The episode begins with Kat and Starbuck's final mission against Scar, then flashes back to 4 days earlier, within the teaser. The survivor count is then shown to be 4 less than last weeks. Does this include the pilots killed by Scar? (because most of what we seen in the episode happens in the "past"?)<br />
**At least three people died onscreen in Black Market (Fisk, Phelan, and Fisk's killer), and there was more than 1 pilot killed by Scar, so presumably the survivor count is for the "96 hours previously" section.<br />
*As the episode begins, mining ship ''[[Majahual]]'' has been conducting operations in a thick asteroid field for 29 days.<br />
*Kat is now qualified to fly Viper Mk. VIIs.<br />
*New nuggets are still being trained and added to the Fleet's ranks. Kat's assertion that "no replacements are coming" in "[[Final Cut]]" appears to no longer be relevant with the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and her resources.<br />
**It was mentioned in "[[Act of Contrition]]" that ''Galactica'' didn't have any flight training simulators and so preferred to train pilots that had prior flight experience. With the arrival of Pegasus it is likely that the fleet now has Viper flight simulators and so pilots can now be trained more easily.<br />
*Nuggets enter the [[Colonial Fleet]] at the rank of Ensign after completing flight training.<br />
*Pilot training apparently takes place on ''Pegasus'', with recruits being assigned to ''Galactica'' afterward.<br />
**This is probably a result of the circumstances imposed by ''Majahual's'' extended mining operation. ''Pegasus'' is outside of the combat zone, guarding the civilians, while Galactica was constantly on guard for attack. Logically, trainee pilots would not be deployed to the combat zone until after they got their wings. Now that they have finished mining and have moved on, training may continue on both.<br />
*Kara Thrace retains the rank of captain, but is now serving as a pilot on ''Galactica'' under CAG Lee Adama.<br />
*The Fleet has found an asteroid containing large supplies of vital metals needed to build completely new Vipers in earnest (instead of making do with what spare parts they have). The Fleet has obtained a large enough supply of metals to create two entire squadrons of Vipers. (It has never been definitively stated how many Vipers are in a "squadron", but based on non-official concept outlines various interviews, it is probably 20.)<br />
**''Pegasus'' has Viper production facilities, one of her more modern capabilities that ''Galactica'' lacks. During the episode, the ''Pegasus'' production team finishes its first combat-ready Viper. <br />
*Anders appears in flashbacks (re-used footage) in this episode.<br />
*[[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Number Six]] do not appear in this episode.<br />
*Chief Tyrol appears very briefly in this episode. Cally is mentioned, but does not appear.<br />
*Lt. [[Gaeta]] and [[Dualla]] appear in this episode, seen in CIC, but have no speaking lines.<br />
*Starbuck and Kat use the word [[frak|motherfrakker]] in this episode, its second use since it was introduced in "[[Valley of Darkness]]"<br />
*In the podcast, it is revealed that a scene was cut of the pilots auctioning off Reilly's possessions, a tradition from the British Navy during the Napoleonic War Era. This auction, RDM explains, was a tribute to the fallen, as well as serving the practical purpose of recycling resources. There would be a shot of Apollo holding up Reilly's "skin" magazine and taking bids, etc. This "skin" magazine can be briefly seen when Starbuck is packing it into a box of Reilly's personal effects. (Its name appears to be "[[Nymph]]".) During the following scene when they're talking about Scar in the pilot's loungeroom ("88 hours ago"), if you look closely in the background, you can see [[Brendan Constanza|Hot Dog]] reading it, presumably having won the auction.<br />
*Lee Adama doesn't fly in this episode, and is never seen in a flight suit. A lot of the day-to-day work of being the CAG, such as assigning and briefing pilots, falls to Starbuck.<br />
*The little model plane on top of the "Top Gun" mug sported by Starbuck and Kat is actually a U.S. Navy [[wikipedia:F/A-18 Hornet|F/A-18 Hornet]].<br />
*This episode bears some similarities to the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_Above_and_Beyond Space: Above and Beyond]'' episodes "Never No More" and "The Angriest Angel", both of which dealt with the introduction of an "ace" alien fighter and its detrimental effect upon the Earth military's morale, and the ensuing efforts of a main character to hunt him down.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Drinking heavily late at night, Apollo and Starbuck commiserate over all of the pilots that have died:''<br />
:'''Apollo''': You know what gets me? I know that in two weeks, I won't remember his face. I can't remember any of their faces after they're killed. No matter how hard I try, they just fade.<br />
:'''Starbuck''': I don't even remember their names.<br />
:'''Apollo''': Names. Oh, let's see, there was- there was [[Flat Top]]. (Starbuck spits some of her drink on him) Who bought it on his thousandth landing. There was [[Chuckles]]. (Starbuck spits out some more beer) Stop it, already. Please, not funny. All right. It's not funny.<br />
:'''Starbuck''': It is funny. You know [[Laura Roslin|the President]] says that we're saving humanity for a bright, shiny future. On [[Earth]]. That you and I are never gonna see. We're not. Because we go out over and over again until someday, some [[Cylon Raider |metal mother frakker]] is gonna catch us on a bad day and just blow us away.<br />
:'''Apollo''': Bright, shiny futures are overrated anyway.<br />
:'''Starbuck''': That is why we gotta get what we can. Right now.<br />
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*''After Starbuck pours Kat a drink in her new Galactica Top Gun mug, she raises a toast to nearly every pilot that has died since the re-imagined series began:'' <br />
:'''Starbuck:''' To BB, Jo-Jo, Reilly, Beano, Dipper, [[Dwight Saunders|Flat Top]], [[Perry|Chuckles]], [["Jolly" Anders|Jolly]], [[Crashdown]], Sheppard, Dash, [[Flyboy]], [[Stepchild]], Puppet, [[Fireball]]...(''stops, crying'')<br />
:'''Apollo:''' To all of 'em. <br />
:'''Admiral Adama:''' So say we all. <br />
:'''Crew:''' So say we all!. <br />
:'''Starbuck:''' So say we all.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*According to an interview on Subject2Discussion.com on January 3rd, 2006, along with "Home" (Parts [[Home, Part I|One]], [[Home, Part II|Two]]), and "[[The Farm]]", this is one of Katee Sackhoff's favorite episodes. <br />
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| Title= Scar<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 15<br />
| Guests=<br />
| Writer= [[David Weddle]] and [[Bradley Thompson]]<br />
| Story= <br />
| Director= [[IMDB:nm0002749|Michael Nankin]]<br />
| Production=<br />
| Rating= 1.9<br />
| US Airdate=February 3 2006<br />
| UK Airdate=<br />
| DVD=<br />
| Population= 49,593<br />
| Prev= [[Black Market]]<br />
| Next= [[Sacrifice]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
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: ''An ace Cylon Raider, nicknamed "[[Scar (Raider)|Scar]]" by the [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilots, has been causing problems for the Fleet. [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] and [[Louanne Katraine|Kat]] compete to hunt it down while Starbuck pines for [[Samuel Anders|"a dead guy"]].''<br />
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== Summary == <br />
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* Several [[Viper (RDM)|Viper]] pilots have been killed while guarding the ''[[Majahual]]'', an ore mining ship located on top of metal ore-rich asteroid. The Fleet's goal is to gather sufficient ore there to create two new squadrons of Vipers.<br />
* With the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed as well as most of the nearest Cylon fleet, the Cylons are far less brazen in attacks, sending only a few Raiders to harass the mining operation.<br />
* ''Galactica'' stays behind to guard the mining operation with their [[CAP]], while ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'' stays with the civilian fleet at a remote location.<br />
* There is too much debris in the system to use [[DRADIS]] to quickly sight and kill the Raiders. [[Combat Air Patrol]]s are needed instead, using their [[Mark One Eyeball]] to find the Raiders.<br />
* One particular Raider, known as "[[Scar]]" is the cause of the pilot deaths.<br />
* [[Kat]], now a seasoned and very talented pilot, challenges [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] over the "Top Gun" beer stein (currently held by Thrace) with the downing of Scar.<br />
* Thrace's depression over the inability to convince Admiral [[William Adama|Adama]] and President [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] to return to Caprica to rescue [[Samuel Anders]] and his [[resistance (movement)|resistance]] causes her to drink excessively and behave very rashly. To suppress her feelings on the inability to fulfill her promise, Thrace begins to tell herself that Anders is dead.<br />
*Thrace turns to [[Sharon Valerii]] for advice regarding Scar. Valerii explains that Raiders can reincarnate as well, and with the [[Resurrection Ship]] destroyed, Scar will do anything to survive.<br />
*Valerii also mentions that "he probably hates you (Thrace) as much as you hate him", as well as asking "how many of us" ''[sic]'' did Scar kill. In an unguarded moment, Valerii and Thrace reminisce over old times, but when Valerii reaches to touch Thrace in friendship, [[marines]] on guard make it clear that it is not permitted. As a distraught Thrace leaves, Sharon tells her to be careful.<br />
* When a rookie pilot from ''Pegasus'', [[Brent Baxton|BB]], is killed, Kat berates Starbuck for giving him "textbook" advice. Later, Kat berates a hungover Starbuck again for being late to lead her own pilot's briefing as well as assigning [[Joseph Clark|Jo-Jo]] in her place on CAP, which leads to his death at the hands of Scar.<br />
* Thrace and [[Lee Adama]] talk over drinks, when Thrace propositions Adama for a "quick lay." The two pilots attack each other, clothes flying, but Thrace is too aggressive, which turns Adama's desire almost completely off. He asks her what was wrong, and she admits that her feelings for Samuel Anders are very confused. When Adama tells her that it's the "living guys" she can't deal with, Thrace is so confused that she slaps Adama, then kisses him for his thoughtfulness in reminding her that he is her friend before she leaves his quarters.<br />
* Starbuck is on patrol with Kat as her wingman when they spot a Raider. Both chase the Raider, but Scar is using that second Raider as a decoy and tries to ambush them from behind.<br />
* Starbuck's instincts tell her to check their "six" (rear), which successfully locates Scar but leaves her Viper with moderate damage when Scar scores hits on her Viper.<br />
*Starbuck leads Scar into a canyon on an asteroid, flips, and flies at Scar on a collision course. Kat shouts at Starbuck to break off as Scar is a machine and won't break off. Starbuck realizes this; she is making a suicide run, as her mind begins to drift out of focus as she thinks of Anders. <br />
* At the last moment, Starbuck breaks off her [[CBDR]] run, and Scar chases her. Starbuck instructs Kat to ambush him from behind while Starbuck lures him into Kat's killzone, in a similar ambush that Scar attempted on them. The ambush is successful, with Kat winning her challenge over Starbuck.<br />
* Starbuck fills the "Top Gun" beer stein for Kat and congratulates her. Then, Starbuck praises the memory of the many pilots lost to Scar and past battles. Admiral Adama and Colonel [[Saul Tigh|Tigh]], both laudable Viper pilots themselves in the [[Cylon War]], attend the celebration. Admiral Adama ends the tribute with "[[So say we all]]."<br />
* Training with Helo in the gym, Starbuck says that she could have killed Scar, but she would have killed herself in the process. Helo tells her that backing off and letting her wingman get the kill was the right thing to do. Helo notes that Starbuck didn't make the suicide run, because she has something to live for now in Anders.<br />
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== Questions == <br />
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*Is Scar a reincarnation of the Cylon Raider that Starbuck captures in "[[You Can't Go Home Again]]?"<br />
*The Fleet has obtained enough metal ore to (eventually) construct two new squadrons of Vipers: will they be Mark II's, or Mark VII's?<br />
**It is likely that the ''Pegasus'' production facilities will create Mark VIIs, as the ''Pegasus'' is a more modern battlestar than ''Galactica'' (which does not have these facilities). Since the Mark IIs are outdated models that were only on ''Galactica'' for museum purposes, the blueprints and equipment molds in the production facilities are most likely not set to produce equipment for the older Vipers.<br />
**They may also decide to produce more of the stealth fighters, as they have now seen their combat and surprise capabilities.<br />
*Did Starbuck and Apollo actually have sexual intercourse briefly and then stop, or did they never actually get that far?<br />
*With Thrace serving on ''Galactica'', who is instructing [[nugget]]s on ''Pegasus''?<br />
*If Raiders reincarnate so that Cylon forces can benefit from their learned experience, why don't Centurions? (It was noted that Centurions cannot reincarnate in [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2006/01/#a000114 RDM's January 20 blog entry].)<br />
**The three basic Cylon models represent something of a spectrum of advancement: from their original, purely mechanical form (the Centurions), to the almost-entirely "organic" forms (the humanoid Cylons). The Raiders are described (podcast, "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]") as supposed to be "in the gap" between [[Number Six]] and a Centurion. Centurions cannot resurrect, and they also contain none of the more advanced bio-mechanical technology the Cylons have developed (as demonstrated by destroyed Centurions, etc). Raiders, on the other hand, ''do'' contain "bio-mechanical" technology, albeit not as advanced as that used in the humanoid Cylons. Perhaps the resurrection technology is based on that bio-mechanical "wetware".<br />
**It is possible that Centurions are not reincarnated, as so relatively few were lost in the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], that to reincarnate any lost to resistance attacks may not be cost-effective when compared against the need to have experienced fighters against ''Galactica's'' battlegroup.<br />
* Do Cylon Basestars also have the ability to reincarnate given that they appear to be composed of similar bio-mechanical technology as the Raiders?<br />
**Although humanoid Cylons are truly sentient, Raiders are not truly sentient but have the self-awareness level of an animal. Perhaps, although Basestars make use of some bio-mechanical materials, are even less developed, and they do not actually possess a "consciousness" at all. <br />
*As Apollo was not flying in this episode and is in a supporting role, could the events of "Scar" be taking place concurrently with the events of "[[Black Market]]," given that neither Starbuck or Kat are featured in that episode?<br />
**Based on the population counts or Fleet status, it's not likely that the episode events are running concurrently. In "Black Market," the Fleet is united (else, Apollo could not fly to ''[[Cloud Nine]]'' or the ''[[Prometheus]]''). In "Scar," ''Galactica'' and the ''Majahual'' are in one system while ''Pegasus'' guards the rest of the Fleet in another location.<br />
**As CAG of two battlestars, Apollo need not fly in every mission now with the relatively high levels of existing pilots and new recruits from ''Pegasus'' as well as ''Galactica's'' own pilots. Since Starbuck appears to have returned to her 2nd pilot in command status (acting as CAG in Apollo's absence), she manages some CAG responsibilities on ''Galactica'', such as pilot briefings. Kat appears to brief pilots as well, suggesting she is higher in the pilot command chain than before.<br />
*How are the consciousnesses of dead Raiders "stored"? The resurrection ship images only showed humanoid bodies awaiting download of dead Humano-Cylons, no full Raiders nor dissociated bio-mechanical brains awaiting transfer.<br />
**There may have been bio-mechanical brains in storage we didn't see; also, the ship acts as a transmitter and could simply transmit their consciousnesses to accompanying basestars.<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*The title "Scar" refers to the "ace" Cylon Raider this episode centers around. While all Cylon Raiders appear visually identical, this particular unit has extensive hull damage, whether from asteroid impacts, scoring from near-misses or other debris, giving it a weathered, craggy look - essentially, "battle scars".<br />
*Many of the pilots Starbuck toasts are minor and recurring characters who have died in previous episodes. In the order she lists them:<br />
**[[Dwight Saunders|Flat Top]] - killed in deck accident in "[[Act of Contrition]]", along with twelve others.<br />
**[[Perry|Chuckles]] - killed in action during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] in "[[The Hand of God]]".<br />
**[["Jolly" Anders|Jolly]] - killed in action in the [[Miniseries]], along with nineteen others.<br />
**[[Crashdown]] - shot by Dr. Gaius Baltar in "[[Fragged]]".<br />
**[[Flyboy]] - killed in action by a Cylon Centurion in [[Valley of Darkness]].<br />
**[[Stepchild]] - killed in action during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] in "[[The Hand of God]]".<br />
**[[Fireball]] - killed in action during the [[Battle for the Tylium Asteroid]] in "[[The Hand of God]]".<br />
*Among those not mentioned were Capt. [[Jackson Spencer|Jackson "Ripper" Spencer]], KIA in the [[Miniseries]], and [[Karma]], KIA in "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]".<br />
**This may be truthfully reflecting Starbuck's earlier comment that she can't remember the names of all of the pilots that have died. This is acknowledged in the podcast.<br />
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*During the "previously on Battlestar Galactica" intro, a clip of a scene which has never actually aired before in any episode was played. Judging by Adama's rank insignia, it appears to be from the time when he was still a Commander. In the scene, Starbuck argues to Adama and Roslin that they must mount a rescue operation to save the Caprica Resistance, but Adama and Roslin are in agreement that it is impossible and tell her they can't. What episode this was originally meant for is unknown:<br />
**'''Thrace: '''The Resistance base camp is here (''points at a map'') 300 klicks north of the only Cylon airbase in the area...<br />
**'''Roslin: ''' I respect what you're trying to do here, however...<br />
**'''Thrace: ''' We have a ''duty'' to the people we left behind.<br />
**'''Adama: ''' We understand that.<br />
**'''Thrace: ''' We ''have to'' find a way to Jump back to Caprica, and go get them--<br />
**'''Adama: '''--Kara!<br />
*During the "in this episode" sequunce of the credits, there are two images not seen in the episode; one of Starbuck standing at a distance, and one of a gun being placed before the camera. These could have been cut from the training scene.<br />
* This episode was the third of the most recent four episodes to begin ''[[Wikipedia:In medias res|in medias res]]'', after [[Resurrection Ship, Part II]] and [[Black Market]]. Though the technique was used well in this episode -- aside from the use of the same endpoint, with Starbuck and Scar charging toward each other, for both acts III and IV -- its apparent prevalance in the series here detracts from the episode. (However, [[RDM|RDM's]] [[podcast]] for "[[Black Market]]" indicates that beginning that episode with Lee's confrontation with [[Phelan]] was not part of the original script and was done as an act of "desperation".)<br />
**This episode's use of the flashbacks, going back and forth between past and current events, resembled "[[Act of Contrition]]" than either of the Season Two episodes mentioned above.<br />
**While the openings of "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]" and "[[Black Market]]" were a quick teaser from the end of the episode, jumping back to the beginning (to "hook" the audience), this entire episode was structured around such flashbacks. RDM stated that the flashbacks in the other episodes were done to get the audience's attention, (as stated above, "Black Market" wasn't even supposed to have this). "[[Epiphanies]]" also had flashbacks, but these were not ''in media res'' flashforwards to later events, but straightforward flashbacks. <br />
*Regular series writers David Weddle and Bradley Thompson seem more responsible than anyone else for expanding the minor pilot characters as the series has progressed. They wrote "[[Act of Contrition]]", in which the nuggets were introduced, then "[[The Hand of God]]", which was the second time they all appeared (and when Chuckles died). Kat and Hot Dog then reappeared in "Scattered" and "Valley of Darkness", which Weddle and Thompson also wrote. The character of Kat received more development since "Flight of the Phoenix", the writers' most recent entry before this episode.<br />
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== Notes == <br />
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*As most of this episode is told in flashback, the survivor count is a little confusing. The episode begins with Kat and Starbuck's final mission against Scar, then flashes back to 4 days earlier, within the teaser. The survivor count is then shown to be 4 less than last weeks. Does this include the pilots killed by Scar? (because most of what we seen in the episode happens in the "past"?)<br />
**At least three people died onscreen in Black Market (Fisk, Phelan, and Fisk's killer), and there was more than 1 pilot killed by Scar, so presumably the survivor count is for the "96 hours previously" section.<br />
*As the episode begins, mining ship ''[[Majahual]]'' has been conducting operations in a thick asteroid field for 29 days.<br />
*Kat is now qualified to fly Viper Mk. VIIs.<br />
*New nuggets are still being trained and added to the Fleet's ranks. Kat's assertion that "no replacements are coming" in "[[Final Cut]]" appears to no longer be relevant with the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and her resources.<br />
**It was mentioned in "[[Act of Contrition]]" that ''Galactica'' didn't have any flight training simulators and so preferred to train pilots that had prior flight experience. With the arrival of Pegasus it is likely that the fleet now has Viper flight simulators and so pilots can now be trained more easily.<br />
*Nuggets enter the [[Colonial Fleet]] at the rank of Ensign after completing flight training.<br />
*Pilot training apparently takes place on ''Pegasus'', with recruits being assigned to ''Galactica'' afterward.<br />
**This is probably a result of the circumstances imposed by ''Majahual's'' extended mining operation. ''Pegasus'' is outside of the combat zone, guarding the civilians, while Galactica was constantly on guard for attack. Logically, trainee pilots would not be deployed to the combat zone until after they got their wings. Now that they have finished mining and have moved on, training may continue on both.<br />
*Kara Thrace retains the rank of captain, but is now serving as a pilot on ''Galactica'' under CAG Lee Adama.<br />
*The Fleet has found an asteroid containing large supplies of vital metals needed to build completely new Vipers in earnest (instead of making do with what spare parts they have). The Fleet has obtained a large enough supply of metals to create two entire squadrons of Vipers. (It has never been definitively stated how many Vipers are in a "squadron", but based on non-official concept outlines various interviews, it is probably 20.)<br />
**''Pegasus'' has Viper production facilities, one of her more modern capabilities that ''Galactica'' lacks. During the episode, the ''Pegasus'' production team finishes its first combat-ready Viper. <br />
*Anders appears in flashbacks (re-used footage) in this episode.<br />
*[[Gaius Baltar]] and [[Number Six]] do not appear in this episode.<br />
*Chief Tyrol appears very briefly in this episode. Cally is mentioned, but does not appear.<br />
*Lt. [[Gaeta]] and [[Dualla]] appear in this episode, seen in CIC, but have no speaking lines.<br />
*Starbuck and Kat use the word [[frak|motherfrakker]] in this episode, its second use since it was introduced in "[[Valley of Darkness]]"<br />
*In the podcast, it is revealed that a scene was cut of the pilots auctioning off Reilly's possessions, a tradition from the British Navy during the Napoleonic War Era. This auction, RDM explains, was a tribute to the fallen, as well as serving the practical purpose of recycling resources. There would be a shot of Apollo holding up Reilly's "skin" magazine and taking bids, etc. This "skin" magazine can be briefly seen when Starbuck is packing it into a box of Reilly's personal effects. (Its name appears to be "[[Nymph]]".) During the following scene when they're talking about Scar in the pilot's loungeroom ("88 hours ago"), if you look closely in the background, you can see [[Brendan Constanza|Hot Dog]] reading it, presumably having won the auction.<br />
*Lee Adama doesn't fly in this episode, and is never seen in a flight suit. A lot of the day-to-day work of being the CAG, such as assigning and briefing pilots, falls to Starbuck.<br />
*The little model plane on top of the "Top Gun" mug sported by Starbuck and Kat is actually a U.S. Navy [[wikipedia:F/A-18 Hornet|F/A-18 Hornet]].<br />
*This episode bears some similarities to the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_Above_and_Beyond Space: Above and Beyond]'' episodes "Never No More" and "The Angriest Angel", both of which dealt with the introduction of an "ace" alien fighter and its detrimental effect upon the Earth military's morale, and the ensuing efforts of a main character to hunt him down.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Drinking heavily late at night, Apollo and Starbuck commiserate over all of the pilots that have died:''<br />
:'''Apollo''': You know what gets me? I know that in two weeks, I won't remember his face. I can't remember any of their faces after they're killed. No matter how hard I try, they just fade.<br />
:'''Starbuck''': I don't even remember their names.<br />
:'''Apollo''': Names. Oh, let's see, there was- there was [[Flat Top]]. (Starbuck spits some of her drink on him) Who bought it on his thousandth landing. There was [[Chuckles]]. (Starbuck spits out some more beer) Stop it, already. Please, not funny. All right. It's not funny.<br />
:'''Starbuck''': It is funny. You know [[Laura Roslin|the President]] says that we're saving humanity for a bright, shiny future. On [[Earth]]. That you and I are never gonna see. We're not. Because we go out over and over again until someday, some [[Cylon Raider |metal mother frakker]] is gonna catch us on a bad day and just blow us away.<br />
:'''Apollo''': Bright, shiny futures are overrated anyway.<br />
:'''Starbuck''': That is why we gotta get what we can. Right now.<br />
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*''After Starbuck pours Kat a drink in her new Galactica Top Gun mug, she raises a toast to nearly every pilot that has died since the re-imagined series began:'' <br />
:'''Starbuck:''' To BB, Jo-Jo, Reilly, Beano, Dipper, [[Dwight Saunders|Flat Top]], [[Perry|Chuckles]], [["Jolly" Anders|Jolly]], [[Crashdown]], Sheppard, Dash, [[Flyboy]], [[Stepchild]], Puppet, [[Fireball]]...(''stops, crying'')<br />
:'''Apollo:''' To all of 'em. <br />
:'''Admiral Adama:''' So say we all. <br />
:'''Crew:''' So say we all!. <br />
:'''Starbuck:''' So say we all.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*According to an interview on Subject2Discussion.com on January 3rd, 2006, along with "Home" (Parts [[Home, Part I|One]], [[Home, Part II|Two]]), and "[[The Farm]]", this is one of Katee Sackhoff's favorite episodes. <br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 19<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br> [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
| Writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]]<br />
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| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
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| US Airdate=March 3, 2006<br />
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| Population= 49,579<br />
| Prev= [[Downloaded]]<br />
| Next= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
''As the presidential election looms just weeks away, the accidental discovery of a habitable planet sparks debate in the Fleet: Colonize? Or keep seeking Earth? Meanwhile, Starbuck leads a rescue mission of Raptors back to Caprica to save Anders and his resistance''.<br />
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== Summary == <br />
*[[William Adama|Adama]] has finally given [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] the go-ahead to plan a rescue mission to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Caprica]]. On [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']], she lays out their plan: they will use ''all'' of their remaining [[Raptor|Raptors]] — 20 in all — and use the navigation computer/organ from one of the captured [[Heavy Raider]]s to calculate the Jumps back to Caprica. Using this, they can make it back to Caprica in a series of 10 Jumps. They will go undetected when they reach Caprica by making a risky jump to just a few klicks above the surface, within the atmosphere itself, below [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[DRADIS]]. Their biggest obstacle to doing this was actually interfacing with the Heavy Raider's navigation "computer", but now they will take [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|''Caprica''-Sharon]] along in Starbuck's Raptor with it; Sharon will directly interface with the computer (by inserting a fiber-optic cable into her arm, like she did in "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]").<br />
*The presidential election is two weeks away, and [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is ahead in the polls. The only real arguments that [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] has against her that give him any ground are when he accuses her of pandering to the religious fundamentalists (i.e. her recent policy switch on abortion) and guiding the Fleet based on the scriptures alone. Conferring with his campaign manager [[Tom Zarek]] in his lab, Baltar realizes he'll need more than this to turn the fleet againt Roslin. Meanwhile, Roslin is doing a little rehearsal ritual for the presidential debate with Adama in his quarters.<br />
*On the hangar deck, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] is sleeping on the floor and twitching convulsively, having a nightmare. [[Cally]] searches around the deck to find him, and is confused by the sight when she finds him. Cally tried to wake Tyrol up, but snapping right out of his nightmare he attacks Cally, punching her in the face until she is a bloody pulp and unconscious. Realizing where he is and what's going on, Tyrol is horrified, and carries Cally in his arms to sickbay. <br />
*[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], now commander of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', has conflicting feelings about Starbuck's mission to rescue Anders, but wishes her good luck in finding him.<br />
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and ''Caprica''-Sharon travel in Starbuck's Raptor. Sharon is still deeply depressed about her daughter [[Hera]]'s seeming death, and has been shutting herself out. Helo tells her that he won't let her do that and won't give up on her. Sharon tells him that she has the feeling that something bad will happen in the future; not on the mission to Caprica, but something else. <br />
*On the very first jump out of the series of ten, [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]'s Raptor jumps to the wrong set of coordinates. Starbuck's orders were to keep going ahead until they lose 3 Raptors, so they go on ahead, while Racetrack prepares to follow her orders to return to [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] if separated. Her Raptor jumped into the middle of a gas cloud with a lot of interference, and upon clearing it, a new planet is found. Scanners indicate that it is a human-habitable planet. She returns to ''Galactica'' with news of the discovery.<br />
*The crew goes over the scans from the planet; it can sustain human life and subsequent scouting shows that in contains animal and vegetative life; they could indeed settle here. However, it is a cold world and somewhat harsh; only a temperate band around the equator covering about 20% of the surface would be habitable. After some prodding from [[Six]], Baltar and Zarek realize that they can use this as their wedge issue to turn the people against Roslin: offer them permament colonization on this planet.<br />
*[[Tory Foster|Tory]] goes over new poll numbers with Roslin on [[Colonial One]]: Baltar has been gaining ground with his new offer to stop running from the Cylons and stay here. The planet is hidden by interference from the gas clouds, and many people want to just stop their constant chase in the refugee fleet. Roslin points out that if the Colonials could find the planet, the Cylons could just as easily. Also, life on the planet would be harsh. Tory points out that Baltar is pandering to the people's hopes, giving them false ones that they greatly desire, while Roslin is pointing out justifiable fears that they simply don't want to hear; people will vote their hopes.<br />
*Shocked by his attack on Cally, Chief Tyrol has asked for religious counselling, and meets with a priest named [[Brother Cavil]]. Tyrol explains that it is because he doesn't believe that psychoanalysis works, but is himself a very [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|religious]] man. Cavil is somewhat loose and sarcastic in his counseling, leaving Tyrol a little pertubed and confused. Cavil tells Tryol that he must look for the problem in himself and questions Tyrol, and when Tyrol denies that he has been having disturbing dreams, Cavil can see through it, so Tyrol relents.<br />
*For weeks, Tyrol has been having the recurring dream that he walks onto the upper level of the hangar deck, climbs over the railing and kills himself by jumping to his death. Cavil says it is because Tyrol has a subconscious desire to kill himself. Tyrol explains that he has had the gnawing worry since [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]] died that he might himself be a [[Cylon agent|Cylon]]. ''Galactica''-Sharon never really knew she was a Cylon, even up to the point that she died, but reported strange fears that something bad was going to happen and she had to stop herself: how would Tyrol, or anyone else, really ''know'' if they were a Cylon sleeper agent or not? Tyrol is frightened by the prospect.<br />
*Cavil assured Tyrol that he is not a Cylon, sarcastically quipping that he knows because he is a Cylon himself, and hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings. Tyrol feels ashamed to go back to the hangar deck crew after the accident, but Cavil assures him that they're the only family he has left, and they love him. Cally most of all.<br />
*At the final presidential debate, Baltar's charisma and hopes of finally giving up their run from the Cylons starts to pull him ahead in the polls, and Roslin's warnings that this planet is not safe and determination to keep searching for Earth do not gain wide support. Baltar apparently wins the final debate. Roslin tells him to go frak himself.<br />
*The Raptors rescuse mission makes the final jump to Caprica. [[Raptor 612]] is lost because it jumps right into the middle of a mountain. The remaining Raptors continue on, then Starbuck, Helo, Sharon and the marines continue on foot.<br />
*One klick away from the resistance's base camp, they see movement, and find [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and his whole group. Starbuck is overjoyed to see him, but Anders warns that the Cylons are right behind them; the resistance's base was ambushed that morning, and half of Anders' men are dead. <br />
*The [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]] and [[Resistance (movement)|resistance]] members start coming under Cylon artillery fire. After running briefly, they reach a point where the arc of the artillery shells is right above them, and cannot hit them. However, the artillery's killzone is now between them and retreat back to the Raptors. To be continued...<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
*Did [[Raptor 612]] Jump "into" the mountain by crashing into it, or did they jump ''inside'' of it?<br />
**RDM confirms in the podcast that by "jumped into the mountain" it doesn't mean "they jumped close to it and thus crashed", it means, exactly like a Star Trek transporter accident, that they materialized from the Jump into solid rock, "half-phased".<br />
*If Raptor 612 was destroyed by jumping into a mountain, how was their transponder still operational?<br />
**Perhaps that part of the Raptor was in an air pocket in the rock, and thus not phased into it. RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.<br />
*Is the previous distance limit for Colonial [[FTL]] jumps on account of something like mathematical calculations? Have any of the other Raptors, besides the lead Raptor, been modified, or do they just receive coordinates from the one Raptor with Caprica-Boomer and the Cylon device?<br />
**No, or at least, not entirely. Based on Starbuck's jump back to Caprica in a Cylon Raider and other comments made in season 1, the Cylon FTL drive is far more capable to begin with. Colonial navigation systems would not be designed to take advantage of a markedly superior FTL drive because there would have been no need. Even by using the Cylon navigation computer, with its much better calculations, they needed ten jumps to return to Caprica.<br />
*Does the fleet have the resources to sustain long term settlements on the newly found planet?<br />
**Shelter could be taken care of by canabalizing the ships of the fleet for building materials. But the question of how many homes can be made for how many of the 49,000+ survivors simply by recycling the materials availible still remains. Even if ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' themselves were recycled, would there be enough materials, or would the Battlestars still be necessary for orbital defence?<br />
**The planet itself may have natural resources—in "[[Scar]]", a mining ship collected metals to build new Vipers, so mining the planet itself may be possible. In this case it would be unnecessary to cannibalize the fleet.<br />
*Zarek says the people have been cooped up in metal boxes since the attack. How literally does he mean this—for instance, are people living inside converted cargo holds as they were in the original series?<br />
**Judging from RDM's podcast, he just meant being stuck inside of cramped ships in general, i.e. even the ''Galactica'' crew (who have dedicated crew quarters).<br />
*How was the Raptor able to jump back to the fleet if their FTL navigation computer was not working properly?<br />
**Racetrack's navigator says she gave him the coordinates, so it is possible that she relayed them incorrectly rather than a malfunction in the computer. Alternatively, they could have tracked down any fault and repaired it. In any case, the coordinates for the Raptor's original jump point would probably still be in the system.<br />
*What about the Cylons hiding within the fleet? With the possible settlement of the planet being openly debated can the Cylon infiltrators not contact the Cylon fleet and inform them of the Colonials intentions?<br />
**Perhaps the interference around the planet is blocking long range communications?<br />
**Caprica-Sharon implies that there are Cylons amongst the fleet by telling Adama she would not identify them if asked.<br />
*Laura states that Baltar does not have a key issue besides the "religious angle." What about the abortion issue from "[[The Captain's Hand]]"?<br />
*When exactly did the Raptors leave for Caprica? If the episode lasts about two weeks, did it take that long to get to Caprica?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Timeline:<br />
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months", putting this episode not long after "[[Downloaded]]".<br />
**At the beginning of the episode, the election is still "two weeks away".<br />
**At the beginning of the first debate, the announcer states Balter declared his bid for presidency a month ago.<br />
**At the conclusion of the second debate, the polls will open in three days.<br />
*[[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]] is apparently assigned to ''Pegasus'' at present, since Dualla refers to her mission as the "Pegasus survey team".<br />
**She could have been flying a ''Pegasus'' Raptor. <br />
*[[Lee Adama]] is now wearing a wristwatch, perhaps [[Barry Garner]]'s from "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
*It is safe to emerge from a hyperspace jump inside a planetary atmosphere at 2km, but not within solid rock. For comparative purposes, the density of air at 2km in an earth-like atmosphere is about 1 kg/m<sup>3</sup>, while the density of silica rock is about 2,600 kg/m<sup>3</sup>.<br />
*''BattlestarWiki'' has been trying for some time to reconcile on the [[Timeline (RDM)|Timeline]] the apparent jump from 3 months to 6 months that occured at the beginning of Season 2.5, a part of which was that back in "[[Bastille Day]]" it was stated on screen that the presidential elections were due in '''seven''' months. However, over 7 months passed by the end of "[[Scar]]", and there wasn't even talk of the elections until "[[The Captain's Hand]]". In the podcast for this episode, Ron Moore appears to reveal that he has simply forgotten this point. When he refers to the fact that "elections were promised back in "Bastille Day"", Moore says that he remembers that the line in "Bastille Day" was '''nine''' months, not seven. This is more than a one-episode goof, becuase one month after "Bastille Day" in "[[Colonial Day]]", it was stated that the elections were six months away. In the podcast it seems that Moore is truly and simply mistaken, and there is no explanation for the descrepancy betwen the "seven months after the attack" figures given in "Bastille Day" and "Colonial Day", and the new "nine months after the attack" figure at the end of season 2.5. It is simply a mistake.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The re-cap for this episode includes scenes not actually shown in previous episodes—for instance, Starbuck demanding to the dying Roslin circa "[[Epiphanies]]" that they go back and rescue the Caprica resistance.<br />
*When Baltar sarcastically quips that Zarek (and Six) expect him to just sit around and wait for "The Hand of God" to deliver them something they can use to their advantage against Roslin, he is of course referencing the previous episode titled "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Ironically, Baltar considers himself the hand of God in that episode. Further, a "chance serendipitous event" (namely the discovery of an inhabitable planet) does deliver them something they can use against Roslin.<br />
*Likewise, when Apollo wishes Starbuck "good hunting", there's a tone of concern, and he seems to pause before saying it, as if Apollo meant to say something else but changed his mind. This may be a reference to "[[33]]", when Starbuck tells Apollo to say "good hunting" instead of "be careful out there".<br />
*This episode has many parallels to "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]": the discovery of an inhabitable planet, Gaeta plotting a Raptor jump dangerously close to a planet surface, Starbuck's use of captured Cylon technology to return to Caprica, the intercutting of several plot threads in the teaser, a character contemplating suicide out of fear of being a Cylon, and difficulties between Helo and Sharon. In addition, Tyrol's assault of Cally is something of a parallel to Helo shooting Sharon in "Kobol's Last Gleaming"—in both cases, a man driven to rage physically and emotionally wounds a woman who loves him.<br />
*When Lt. Gaeta takes his shirt off in the head, he can be seen to still be sporting the tiger tatoo that we first saw in "[[Final Cut]]".<br />
*The combined Colonial fleet had 20 Raptors in this episode, of which 1 was destroyed before the end. Previously, ''Galactica'' was confirmed to have at least 5 left ([[The Farm]]), with the suggestion that there may be as many as 8 ([[Resistance]]). Doubtlessly, ''Pegasus'' brought at least an equal number of Raptors with it when it joined the Fleet, but 20 is still a high number for this. Perhaps a disproportionately large number of Raptors escaped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] during the [[Miniseries]]. Or perhaps like in real life with American Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers that carry a larger number of fighter aircraft compared to older Forrestal class carriers, the Pegasus, being a larger and more modern Battlestar than Galactica, it has the capability to carry a larger complement of Raptors. Unlike Vipers, Raptors do have FTL drives. We actually saw Boomer and Helo escaping the destruction of their Viper squadron, because Raptors do not engage in frontline combat, and because they have an extenstive ECM suite which Helo was trying to jam the Cylon virus signal with. Indeed, [[Crashdown]] was a Raptor ECO, but Boomer stated that he was not from ''Galactica'', but a refugee "from Triton" (either a battlestar or a planet). <br />
**Also, more Raptors could have been built with extra materials after the Viper squadrons were manufactured ([[Scar]]). <br />
*The jump error that landed the Raptor in the nebula was attributed to a "firmware error" by the crew. This may be an indication that there was firmware upgrade to deal with the increased FTL jump distances provided by the Cylon computer.<br />
*When Cavil is consoling Tyrol's fears that he might unknowingly be a Cylon sleeper agent, just like Boomer was, Tyrol asks him how he can know for sure. Cavil sarcastically answers that it's because maybe he's a Cylon, and he hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings: Number Six also sarcastically remarked to Baltar in the Miniseries that [[Aaron Doral]] could not be a Cylon, because she hadn't "seen him at any of the good Cylon parties"...but of course, Doral actually ''was'' a Cylon, implying that Cavil is truly more than he seems.<br />
*Tory actually paraphrases the title of this episode aloud, saying that the new planet offers people in the Fleet the hope that they can "lay down their burdens" and stop running.<br />
*During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, before the Teaser segment a "Parental Discretion Is Advised" black and white message was inserted. At the end of the Teaser, Tyrol beats Cally to a bloody pulp.<br />
*Lee Adama is now wearing a new uniform as Commander of ''Pegasus'': it is a Commander's uniform, denoted by the new red trim (with gold inner trim), and it has a white "''Pegasus'' BSG-62" patch, replacing his old gold "''Galactica'' BSG-75" patch.<br />
*Dualla's photo of Adama is the left half of a group shot with Kara Thrace and his brother Zak Adama. The original belongs to Thrace, and she has kept it in her locker on ''Galactica'' since the miniseries.<br />
*Dualla refers to "rivers of milk and honey" on the newly discovered planet. The phrase "land of milk and honey" is a common epithet for the promised land in the Torah, appearing in Exodus 3:8, 3:17, 13:5, 33:3, Leviticus 20:24, Number 13:27, 14:8, 16:13-14, and Deuteronomy 6:3.<br />
*Commander Lee Adama is seen eating noodles with chopsticks in his quarters, just like his father in "[[33]]", etc. Interesting note Adama sticks his chopsticks inside the bowl of noodles so that the chopsticks stand up in the bowl, which is a sign of bad luck to the Chinese. Non-asians that use chopsticks frequently do not pay heed to the bad luck superstition, similiar to the Japanese custom of not giving knives as a wedding present for the same reason (bad luck). This is a sign of cultures borrowing from each other piecemeal. <br />
*In the podcast, RDM states that originally instead of Starbuck, Helo, and Sharon leading the other Raptors in another Raptor, they would have been flying in the captured Heavy Raider itself. However, the 2 part season finale went overbudget and cuts had to be made, and the cost of building the Heavy Raider interior was deemed prohibitively expensive. Thus, they bring the Heavy Raider computer/organ with them in a normal Raptor. Moore said he believed that fans "wouldn't miss" an actual appearance by the Heavy Raider.<br />
*Col. Tigh appears in this epsiode twice but doesn't speak a single line.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Chief Tyrol is worried that like'' Galactica''-Sharon, he could just as well be another Cylon sleeper agent:''<br />
:'''Chief Tyrol:''' How do you know I'm human?<br />
:'''Brother Cavil:''' Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.<br />
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*'''Brother Cavil:''' Do you know how useless prayer is? Chanting, and singing, and mucking about with old half-remembered lines of bad poetry? And you know what it gets you? Exactly nothing.<br />
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*'''Gaius Baltar:''' I'm not sure if you're aware, [[Tom Zarek|Tom]], but the mob isn't usually in the habit of electing ungodly apostates who denegrate people of faith.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*''In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]) said:'' "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aaron+Douglas Aaron Douglas] as CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne] as Specialist [[Cally]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Leah+Cairns Leah Cairns] [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Colin Lawrence as "Skulls" McCall<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
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| Title= Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I<br />
| Series= [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|The Re-imagined Series]]<br />
| Season= [[Season 2 (2005-06)|2]]<br />
| Episode= 19<br />
| Guests= [[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br> [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
| Writer=[[Ronald D. Moore]]<br />
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| Director=[[Michael Rymer]]<br />
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| US Airdate=March 3, 2006<br />
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| Population= 49,579<br />
| Prev= [[Downloaded]]<br />
| Next= [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]<br />
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== Overview ==<br />
''As the presidential election looms just weeks away, the accidental discovery of a habitable planet sparks debate in the Fleet: Colonize? Or keep seeking Earth? Meanwhile, Starbuck leads a rescue mission of Raptors back to Caprica to save Anders and his resistance''.<br />
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== Summary == <br />
*[[William Adama|Adama]] has finally given [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] the go-ahead to plan a rescue mission to [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)|Caprica]]. On [[Pegasus (RDM)|''Pegasus'']], she lays out their plan: they will use ''all'' of their remaining [[Raptor|Raptors]] — 20 in all — and use the navigation computer/organ from one of the captured [[Heavy Raider]]s to calculate the Jumps back to Caprica. Using this, they can make it back to Caprica in a series of 10 Jumps. They will go undetected when they reach Caprica by making a risky jump to just a few klicks above the surface, within the atmosphere itself, below [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]] [[DRADIS]]. Their biggest obstacle to doing this was actually interfacing with the Heavy Raider's navigation "computer", but now they will take [[Sharon Valerii (Caprica copy)|''Caprica''-Sharon]] along in Starbuck's Raptor with it; Sharon will directly interface with the computer (by inserting a fiber-optic cable into her arm, like she did in "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]").<br />
*The presidential election is two weeks away, and [[Laura Roslin|Roslin]] is ahead in the polls. The only real arguments that [[Gaius Baltar|Baltar]] has against her that give him any ground are when he accuses her of pandering to the religious fundamentalists (i.e. her recent policy switch on abortion) and guiding the Fleet based on the scriptures alone. Conferring with his campaign manager [[Tom Zarek]] in his lab, Baltar realizes he'll need more than this to turn the fleet againt Roslin. Meanwhile, Roslin is doing a little rehearsal ritual for the presidential debate with Adama in his quarters.<br />
*On the hangar deck, [[Galen Tyrol|Chief Tyrol]] is sleeping on the floor and twitching convulsively, having a nightmare. [[Cally]] searches around the deck to find him, and is confused by the sight when she finds him. Cally tried to wake Tyrol up, but snapping right out of his nightmare he attacks Cally, punching her in the face until she is a bloody pulp and unconscious. Realizing where he is and what's going on, Tyrol is horrified, and carries Cally in his arms to sickbay. <br />
*[[Lee Adama|Apollo]], now commander of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)|Pegasus]]'', has conflicting feelings about Starbuck's mission to rescue Anders, but wishes her good luck in finding him.<br />
*[[Karl Agathon|Helo]] and ''Caprica''-Sharon travel in Starbuck's Raptor. Sharon is still deeply depressed about her daughter [[Hera]]'s seeming death, and has been shutting herself out. Helo tells her that he won't let her do that and won't give up on her. Sharon tells him that she has the feeling that something bad will happen in the future; not on the mission to Caprica, but something else. <br />
*On the very first jump out of the series of ten, [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]'s Raptor jumps to the wrong set of coordinates. Starbuck's orders were to keep going ahead until they lose 3 Raptors, so they go on ahead, while Racetrack prepares to follow her orders to return to [[Galactica (RDM)|''Galactica'']] if separated. Her Raptor jumped into the middle of a gas cloud with a lot of interference, and upon clearing it, a new planet is found. Scanners indicate that it is a human-habitable planet. She returns to ''Galactica'' with news of the discovery.<br />
*The crew goes over the scans from the planet; it can sustain human life and subsequent scouting shows that in contains animal and vegetative life; they could indeed settle here. However, it is a cold world and somewhat harsh; only a temperate band around the equator covering about 20% of the surface would be habitable. After some prodding from [[Six]], Baltar and Zarek realize that they can use this as their wedge issue to turn the people against Roslin: offer them permament colonization on this planet.<br />
*[[Tory Foster|Tory]] goes over new poll numbers with Roslin on [[Colonial One]]: Baltar has been gaining ground with his new offer to stop running from the Cylons and stay here. The planet is hidden by interference from the gas clouds, and many people want to just stop their constant chase in the refugee fleet. Roslin points out that if the Colonials could find the planet, the Cylons could just as easily. Also, life on the planet would be harsh. Tory points out that Baltar is pandering to the people's hopes, giving them false ones that they greatly desire, while Roslin is pointing out justifiable fears that they simply don't want to hear; people will vote their hopes.<br />
*Shocked by his attack on Cally, Chief Tyrol has asked for religious counselling, and meets with a priest named [[Brother Cavil]]. Tyrol explains that it is because he doesn't believe that psychoanalysis works, but is himself a very [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies|religious]] man. Cavil is somewhat loose and sarcastic in his counseling, leaving Tyrol a little pertubed and confused. Cavil tells Tryol that he must look for the problem in himself and questions Tyrol, and when Tyrol denies that he has been having disturbing dreams, Cavil can see through it, so Tyrol relents.<br />
*For weeks, Tyrol has been having the recurring dream that he walks onto the upper level of the hangar deck, climbs over the railing and kills himself by jumping to his death. Cavil says it is because Tyrol has a subconscious desire to kill himself. Tyrol explains that he has had the gnawing worry since [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)|''Galactica''-Sharon]] died that he might himself be a [[Cylon agent|Cylon]]. ''Galactica''-Sharon never really knew she was a Cylon, even up to the point that she died, but reported strange fears that something bad was going to happen and she had to stop herself: how would Tyrol, or anyone else, really ''know'' if they were a Cylon sleeper agent or not? Tyrol is frightened by the prospect.<br />
*Cavil assured Tyrol that he is not a Cylon, sarcastically quipping that he knows because he is a Cylon himself, and hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings. Tyrol feels ashamed to go back to the hangar deck crew after the accident, but Cavil assures him that they're the only family he has left, and they love him. Cally most of all.<br />
*At the final presidential debate, Baltar's charisma and hopes of finally giving up their run from the Cylons starts to pull him ahead in the polls, and Roslin's warnings that this planet is not safe and determination to keep searching for Earth do not gain wide support. Baltar apparently wins the final debate. Roslin tells him to go frak himself.<br />
*The Raptors rescuse mission makes the final jump to Caprica. [[Raptor 612]] is lost because it jumps right into the middle of a mountain. The remaining Raptors continue on, then Starbuck, Helo, Sharon and the marines continue on foot.<br />
*One klick away from the resistance's base camp, they see movement, and find [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and his whole group. Starbuck is overjoyed to see him, but Anders warns that the Cylons are right behind them; the resistance's base was ambushed that morning, and half of Anders' men are dead. <br />
*The [[Colonial Marine Corps|marines]] and [[Resistance (movement)|resistance]] members start coming under Cylon artillery fire. After running briefly, they reach a point where the arc of the artillery shells is right above them, and cannot hit them. However, the artillery's killzone is now between them and retreat back to the Raptors. To be continued...<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
*Did [[Raptor 612]] Jump "into" the mountain by crashing into it, or did they jump ''inside'' of it?<br />
**RDM confirms in the podcast that by "jumped into the mountain" it doesn't mean "they jumped close to it and thus crashed", it means, exactly like a Star Trek transporter accident, that they materialized from the Jump into solid rock, "half-phased".<br />
*If Raptor 612 was destroyed by jumping into a mountain, how was their transponder still operational?<br />
**Perhaps that part of the Raptor was in an air pocket in the rock, and thus not phased into it. RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.<br />
*Is the previous distance limit for Colonial [[FTL]] jumps on account of something like mathematical calculations? Have any of the other Raptors, besides the lead Raptor, been modified, or do they just receive coordinates from the one Raptor with Caprica-Boomer and the Cylon device?<br />
**No, or at least, not entirely. Based on Starbuck's jump back to Caprica in a Cylon Raider and other comments made in season 1, the Cylon FTL drive is far more capable to begin with. Colonial navigation systems would not be designed to take advantage of a markedly superior FTL drive because there would have been no need. Even by using the Cylon navigation computer, with its much better calculations, they needed ten jumps to return to Caprica.<br />
*Does the fleet have the resources to sustain long term settlements on the newly found planet?<br />
**Shelter could be taken care of by canabalizing the ships of the fleet for building materials. But the question of how many homes can be made for how many of the 49,000+ survivors simply by recycling the materials availible still remains. Even if ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' themselves were recycled, would there be enough materials, or would the Battlestars still be necessary for orbital defence?<br />
**The planet itself may have natural resources—in "[[Scar]]", a mining ship collected metals to build new Vipers, so mining the planet itself may be possible. In this case it would be unnecessary to cannibalize the fleet.<br />
*Zarek says the people have been cooped up in metal boxes since the attack. How literally does he mean this—for instance, are people living inside converted cargo holds as they were in the original series?<br />
**Judging from RDM's podcast, he just meant being stuck inside of cramped ships in general, i.e. even the ''Galactica'' crew (who have dedicated crew quarters).<br />
*How was the Raptor able to jump back to the fleet if their FTL navigation computer was not working properly?<br />
**Racetrack's navigator says she gave him the coordinates, so it is possible that she relayed them incorrectly rather than a malfunction in the computer. Alternatively, they could have tracked down any fault and repaired it. In any case, the coordinates for the Raptor's original jump point would probably still be in the system.<br />
*What about the Cylons hiding within the fleet? With the possible settlement of the planet being openly debated can the Cylon infiltrators not contact the Cylon fleet and inform them of the Colonials intentions?<br />
**Perhaps the interference around the planet is blocking long range communications?<br />
**Caprica-Sharon implies that there are Cylons amongst the fleet by telling Adama she would not identify them if asked.<br />
*Laura states that Baltar does not have a key issue besides the "religious angle." What about the abortion issue from [[The Captain's Hand]]?<br />
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== Analysis ==<br />
*Timeline:<br />
**Zarek states that the people of the fleet have been "cooped up in metal boxes for nine months", putting this episode not long after "[[Downloaded]]".<br />
**At the beginning of the episode, the election is still "two weeks away".<br />
**At the beginning of the first debate, the announcer states Balter declared his bid for presidency a month ago.<br />
**At the conclusion of the second debate, the polls will open in three days.<br />
*[[Margaret Edmonson|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmonson]] is apparently assigned to ''Pegasus'' at present, since Dualla refers to her mission as the "Pegasus survey team".<br />
**She could have been flying a ''Pegasus'' Raptor. <br />
*[[Lee Adama]] is now wearing a wristwatch, perhaps [[Barry Garner]]'s from "[[The Captain's Hand]]".<br />
*It is safe to emerge from a hyperspace jump inside a planetary atmosphere at 2km, but not within solid rock. For comparative purposes, the density of air at 2km in an earth-like atmosphere is about 1 kg/m<sup>3</sup>, while the density of silica rock is about 2,600 kg/m<sup>3</sup>.<br />
*''BattlestarWiki'' has been trying for some time to reconcile on the [[Timeline (RDM)|Timeline]] the apparent jump from 3 months to 6 months that occured at the beginning of Season 2.5, a part of which was that back in "[[Bastille Day]]" it was stated on screen that the presidential elections were due in '''seven''' months. However, over 7 months passed by the end of "[[Scar]]", and there wasn't even talk of the elections until "[[The Captain's Hand]]". In the podcast for this episode, Ron Moore appears to reveal that he has simply forgotten this point. When he refers to the fact that "elections were promised back in "Bastille Day"", Moore says that he remembers that the line in "Bastille Day" was '''nine''' months, not seven. This is more than a one-episode goof, becuase one month after "Bastille Day" in "[[Colonial Day]]", it was stated that the elections were six months away. In the podcast it seems that Moore is truly and simply mistaken, and there is no explanation for the descrepancy betwen the "seven months after the attack" figures given in "Bastille Day" and "Colonial Day", and the new "nine months after the attack" figure at the end of season 2.5. It is simply a mistake.<br />
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== Notes ==<br />
*The re-cap for this episode includes scenes not actually shown in previous episodes—for instance, Starbuck demanding to the dying Roslin circa "[[Epiphanies]]" that they go back and rescue the Caprica resistance.<br />
*When Baltar sarcastically quips that Zarek (and Six) expect him to just sit around and wait for "The Hand of God" to deliver them something they can use to their advantage against Roslin, he is of course referencing the previous episode titled "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]". Ironically, Baltar considers himself the hand of God in that episode. Further, a "chance serendipitous event" (namely the discovery of an inhabitable planet) does deliver them something they can use against Roslin.<br />
*Likewise, when Apollo wishes Starbuck "good hunting", there's a tone of concern, and he seems to pause before saying it, as if Apollo meant to say something else but changed his mind. This may be a reference to "[[33]]", when Starbuck tells Apollo to say "good hunting" instead of "be careful out there".<br />
*This episode has many parallels to "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]" and "[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]": the discovery of an inhabitable planet, Gaeta plotting a Raptor jump dangerously close to a planet surface, Starbuck's use of captured Cylon technology to return to Caprica, the intercutting of several plot threads in the teaser, a character contemplating suicide out of fear of being a Cylon, and difficulties between Helo and Sharon. In addition, Tyrol's assault of Cally is something of a parallel to Helo shooting Sharon in "Kobol's Last Gleaming"—in both cases, a man driven to rage physically and emotionally wounds a woman who loves him.<br />
*When Lt. Gaeta takes his shirt off in the head, he can be seen to still be sporting the tiger tatoo that we first saw in "[[Final Cut]]".<br />
*The combined Colonial fleet had 20 Raptors in this episode, of which 1 was destroyed before the end. Previously, ''Galactica'' was confirmed to have at least 5 left ([[The Farm]]), with the suggestion that there may be as many as 8 ([[Resistance]]). Doubtlessly, ''Pegasus'' brought at least an equal number of Raptors with it when it joined the Fleet, but 20 is still a high number for this. Perhaps a disproportionately large number of Raptors escaped to [[Ragnar Anchorage]] during the [[Miniseries]]. Or perhaps like in real life with American Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers that carry a larger number of fighter aircraft compared to older Forrestal class carriers, the Pegasus, being a larger and more modern Battlestar than Galactica, it has the capability to carry a larger complement of Raptors. Unlike Vipers, Raptors do have FTL drives. We actually saw Boomer and Helo escaping the destruction of their Viper squadron, because Raptors do not engage in frontline combat, and because they have an extenstive ECM suite which Helo was trying to jam the Cylon virus signal with. Indeed, [[Crashdown]] was a Raptor ECO, but Boomer stated that he was not from ''Galactica'', but a refugee "from Triton" (either a battlestar or a planet). <br />
**Also, more Raptors could have been built with extra materials after the Viper squadrons were manufactured ([[Scar]]). <br />
*The jump error that landed the Raptor in the nebula was attributed to a "firmware error" by the crew. This may be an indication that there was firmware upgrade to deal with the increased FTL jump distances provided by the Cylon computer.<br />
*When Cavil is consoling Tyrol's fears that he might unknowingly be a Cylon sleeper agent, just like Boomer was, Tyrol asks him how he can know for sure. Cavil sarcastically answers that it's because maybe he's a Cylon, and he hasn't seen Tyrol at any of the meetings: Number Six also sarcastically remarked to Baltar in the Miniseries that [[Aaron Doral]] could not be a Cylon, because she hadn't "seen him at any of the good Cylon parties"...but of course, Doral actually ''was'' a Cylon, implying that Cavil is truly more than he seems.<br />
*Tory actually paraphrases the title of this episode aloud, saying that the new planet offers people in the Fleet the hope that they can "lay down their burdens" and stop running.<br />
*During the premiere airing of this episode on the Sci-Fi Channel, before the Teaser segment a "Parental Discretion Is Advised" black and white message was inserted. At the end of the Teaser, Tyrol beats Cally to a bloody pulp.<br />
*Lee Adama is now wearing a new uniform as Commander of ''Pegasus'': it is a Commander's uniform, denoted by the new red trim (with gold inner trim), and it has a white "''Pegasus'' BSG-62" patch, replacing his old gold "''Galactica'' BSG-75" patch.<br />
*Dualla's photo of Adama is the left half of a group shot with Kara Thrace and his brother Zak Adama. The original belongs to Thrace, and she has kept it in her locker on ''Galactica'' since the miniseries.<br />
*Dualla refers to "rivers of milk and honey" on the newly discovered planet. The phrase "land of milk and honey" is a common epithet for the promised land in the Torah, appearing in Exodus 3:8, 3:17, 13:5, 33:3, Leviticus 20:24, Number 13:27, 14:8, 16:13-14, and Deuteronomy 6:3.<br />
*Commander Lee Adama is seen eating noodles with chopsticks in his quarters, just like his father in "[[33]]", etc. Interesting note Adama sticks his chopsticks inside the bowl of noodles so that the chopsticks stand up in the bowl, which is a sign of bad luck to the Chinese. Non-asians that use chopsticks frequently do not pay heed to the bad luck superstition, similiar to the Japanese custom of not giving knives as a wedding present for the same reason (bad luck). This is a sign of cultures borrowing from each other piecemeal. <br />
*In the podcast, RDM states that originally instead of Starbuck, Helo, and Sharon leading the other Raptors in another Raptor, they would have been flying in the captured Heavy Raider itself. However, the 2 part season finale went overbudget and cuts had to be made, and the cost of building the Heavy Raider interior was deemed prohibitively expensive. Thus, they bring the Heavy Raider computer/organ with them in a normal Raptor. Moore said he believed that fans "wouldn't miss" an actual appearance by the Heavy Raider.<br />
*Col. Tigh appears in this epsiode twice but doesn't speak a single line.<br />
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== Noteworthy Dialogue ==<br />
*''Chief Tyrol is worried that like'' Galactica''-Sharon, he could just as well be another Cylon sleeper agent:''<br />
:'''Chief Tyrol:''' How do you know I'm human?<br />
:'''Brother Cavil:''' Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.<br />
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*'''Brother Cavil:''' Do you know how useless prayer is? Chanting, and singing, and mucking about with old half-remembered lines of bad poetry? And you know what it gets you? Exactly nothing.<br />
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*'''Gaius Baltar:''' I'm not sure if you're aware, [[Tom Zarek|Tom]], but the mob isn't usually in the habit of electing ungodly apostates who denegrate people of faith.<br />
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== Official Statements == <br />
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*''In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. [[Gaius Baltar]]) said:'' "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."<br />
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== Guest Stars ==<br />
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*[[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874001/ Michael Trucco] as [[Samuel Anders]]<br />
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001777/ Dean Stockwell] as [[Brother Cavil]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aaron+Douglas Aaron Douglas] as CPO [[Galen Tyrol]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Nicki+Clyne Nicki Clyne] as Specialist [[Cally]]<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Leah+Cairns Leah Cairns] [[Margaret Edmonson|Racetrack]]<br />
*Rekha Sharma as [[Tory Foster]]<br />
*Alisen Down as Jean Barclay<br />
*Colin Lawrence as "Skulls" McCall<br />
*[http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye] as [[James McManus]]<br />
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[[Category: RDM]]<br />
[[Category:Episodes directed by Michael Rymer]]<br />
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