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Talk:Home, Part II/Archive 1

2008-09-01T19:22:49Z

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Again, information from: http://www.pegasusgalaxy.com/forums/index.php?s=b4fa8f3820cdd0bf22c96fd5ff775b1b&showtopic=1128

I held off any further details since nothing else is really known; it's not even strictly confirmed that Home Part II follows Home Part I, but it would make sense, especially taking into account the Kobol's Last Gleaming I/II from season one. [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 16:04, 18 May 2005 (EDT)

== Episode Title ==

ON [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar Sci-Fi Battlestar site] there is this episode called '''Home, Part 2''' . What does it mean? Did anyone meationed that? --[[User:Pavel Ptáček|Pavel Ptáček]] 06:28, 21 Aug 2005 (EDT)

: EPISODE TITLE IS NOT "The Raid" IT IS "Home, part II". I don't know how to change an episode title. I hope someone else does. But the official Battlestar site on Scifi.com is calling the upcoming episode "Home, Part II". This needs to be changed.---Ricimer, 22 Aug, 2005

== Article Title Changed Per Official Site ==

Confirmed the episode title change. I've moved the page. Any links to "The Raid" should be redirected to "Home, Part II." Any use of "Home, Part I" are still redirected to "Home" as before, but the title difference there is not significant and you can use either in articles. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:45, 23 Aug 2005 (EDT)

== Episode Summary ==
Where's the episode summary for this one? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:53, 26 January 2006 (EST)
:Nevermind. Thanks Spencerian! That was quick! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:17, 8 February 2006 (EST)

== Joke ==

The following was obviously a joke, like one of dozens of others that RDM has made in podcast, and not worth mentioning: "''*In the podcast for this episode, both Ronald D. Moore and David Eick hint that Helo is a [[Cylon agent]]. However, it seems likely that they are joking''".

==Cygnus arm==
"''*Since Lee and Cmdr. Adama both recognized the Lagoon Nebula, and the nebula appears the same as it does from Earth, the Colonies must be located on a line that passes through Sol and the Lagoon Nebula. This would place the Colonies - and Kobol - in the Cygnus Arm of the galaxy.''--Just to point out, you found that info on regular Wikipedia, and it was actually me (back when I was known as Ricimer) who wrote that: I mean it's an educated guess as I believe in it based on the evidence, but I'm no astrophysics expert. Just in case you saw this somewhere else and said "this must be fact", well, I didn't put it here because I thought it was kind of shaky. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]]) 14:54, 4 April 2006 (CDT)

==Doc Cottle has a pottymouth==
When Cottle's doing his scan of Baltar, and Six makes him move the first time, Cottle says, quite clearly, "Oh, fuck." --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 18:53, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
:No, he says "Oh, fo...." like in "Oh for gods' sake", but he stops pretty much right after the "f" making it sounds like a very quiet "fuck" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:33, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
::I listened to it 5 times on headphones, clearly hearing the "ck" at the end. I'm 100% sure he said fuck. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 10:33, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
:::I never once thought he said fuck until i read this. I still think he just paused before finishing rather than actually swearing --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] ([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]]) 03:18, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
::::Of course he didn't say "oh, fuck". Not only would the actor and director have picked upon that during the shoot, but it wouldn't even make sense in the context. He clearly cut off from saying something like "Oh, for fraks sake". Debate closed. (jxh487)
:::::Could you try being politer? This is a genuine debate and you are not the end-all be-all of Galactica lines. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 18:42, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
::::::No, you're right. I'm not, infact I made a mistake (supposedly) about the ...erm... "boomer" said what??? debate over at the websode talk page. I swear he says "Laura told me" (jxh487)
:::FWIW, the phoneme /k/ is realized as voiceless, un-aspirated [k] in word-final position, as is the phoneme /g/ in word-initial position. Thus, it would be trivial to confuse "fuck" and "for g-" - the only phonetic difference is in the vowel. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:25, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

== Using a Compass? ==

During the teaser, we see them using a compass while looking for the Tomb of Athena. How can they be sure that, being on a foreign planet with unknown magnetic properties, that the compass will work the way they need it to?

Talk:The Ties That Bind/Archive 1

2008-04-20T10:56:12Z

Ctetc2007:

Is this title a hint to [[Saul Tigh|everyone's favourite alcoholic colonel]]? [[User:OTW|OTW]] 19:23, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
:That would be "The Tighs That Bind". hehe. Like "Tigh me up, Tigh me down". That was a nice play on words. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 01:22, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

== SG1 thing? ==

Is the SG-1 thing really necessary? After all, I'm sure that here are tons of television shows that have similar names -- for instance, I'm sure that there are shows that have episodes named "Faith". To be honest, I find nothing significant in that note. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New''] 13:22, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
:Agreed. Usually it's simple title that get reused often, but since this is a fixed expression it's not so surprising. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:25, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
::Didn't know "The Ties That Bind" was like a common expression (one of the downsides of being a near-native, but still non-native, English speaker), I was under the impression it was simply a Biblical quote. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 13:49, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
:::The origin is of course that bible quote, but if you google it, you'll also find a Bruce Springsteen song and many news articles that use it. For example "The ties that bind China, Russia and Iran" or "Sony Cuts the Ties That Bind Walkman" or "Technologies to untie the ties that bind". And for TV, an episode of "The OC" shares that name too, so Stargate shouldn't be singled out. We already pay way too much attention to it with cast notes. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:55, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
::::Right. I just didn't know TTTB was a common expression. Removing. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]]) 13:59, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

== Image ==

May I suggest taking some image that is a) smaller b) oriented horizontally, not vertically? Current image breaks s.4 episode guide and is a bit too big. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 17:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:It's already scaled down and it might not be so obvious once that page is filled with content. The only other interesting image would be [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=283&pos=1 this] (I can get a high-res version). Or we could crop the current one at her waist. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
::My vote goes to [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=283&pos=1 this], right. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
::: It depends, because Cally... ahem. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]] 19:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: Then crop it at least if it must be Cally. -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 20:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
::I say [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=283&pos=3 this one] How many do have Cheif and Tory? We have lots with Roslin and crew. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, it's not like there is a shortage of things about the Final Five, either on screen or online, so I chose pictures that are about something else. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Mixing it up is good. I been thinking about making them all random <code>{{#random:image1.jpg,etc}}</code> [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

== Orion ==
At about 28 minutes, when the other baseships jump in, the constellation of Orion is clearly visible in the background. Worth mentioning on the entry?--[[User:Werthead|Werthead]] 10:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. Not only did you see Orion, but also Taurus and the Pleiades - and most importantly, as you would see them if you were within ~50 light years of Earth. --[[User:Qprmeteor|Qprmeteor]] 12:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

== Acts vs. Location Format ==
I feel that this guide would be much easier to read and follow if it was in a Location format instead of by Acts. IMHO, YMMV, ect. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah. that's the way I orginally had it setup before spenc uploaded his thing :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry, didn't look at the history. It just seems harder to read this way. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey. Wasn't blaming ya. :) I gues I'll pick apart his summary and switch everything around. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

== Nicky Cylon or Human ==

I wonder if this episode shows how the story hits on pure fiction rather than sci-fi with the case of Nicky being a cylon. Nicky is a boy, which would mean there has to be a Y chromosome. If Tyrol is truly a Cylon, then Cally could only have a female child. They stated earlier in the series that the skinjobs could not reproduce without human donors. Reading the sci-fi forums and original series (way back to deception to the Cylons/Baltar by Specter, and how the Beings of Light 'try' not to interfere) may provide a spoiler to what is to come next from this episode if it stays on the sci-fi side. If it goes fiction, maybe it be worth noting what made Nicky a boy and a cylon before someone yells "that's not sci-fi!" (The Science Note: women can reproduce women without men in genetic experiments of fertilization, but women do not carry/make the Y chromosome to reproduce a male.) (Podcast note: [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Podcast:Frak_Party_Q_and_A#hybridnick]) [[User:Dzonatas|Dzonatas]] 21:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:They did not state anything about human donors. They stated that Cylons could not reproduce with each other, and could not reproduce with humans unless there was love. Cally and Tyrol love each other, imperfect as their marriage might be, so Nicky was conceived like Hera. No reason he shouldn't have a Cylon Y chromosome. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 21:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:::RDM has stated the the final five are fundamentally different than the others, so what is know about the significant seven may not apply. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 21:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Plus, what is known about the signficant seven doesn't rule it out. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 21:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::So, we can say that Nicky is fundamentally different when compared to Hera. The plot just grows more from this episode about them and brings questions, but the difference can be noted on the Nicky or Hera page. I was going to add something to the article, but I felt it was better to wait another episode. Thanks -- [[User:Dzonatas|Dzonatas]] 03:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::For now, we don't know of any fundamental differences between Nicky and Hera yet. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 03:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

== Inappropriate use of Point of Order? ==

According to Robert's Rules of Order, a Point of Order is raised if the rules of order have apparently been broken. In this case, rules don't seem to have been broken, and Lee is really just interrupting to bring up his own issues (which could be construed as out of order). The closest motion that I could find is a Request for Any Other Privilege, which he would then use to try to bring up a more pressing issue, but this is still an iffy case. [[User:Ctetc2007|Ctetc2007]] 10:56, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:The Ties That Bind/Archive 1

2008-04-20T10:52:35Z

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