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Talk:Six Degrees of Separation/Archive 1

2009-02-10T01:42:36Z

Balator:

Were they really attempting to "reverse-engineer" the Raider, or just see if they could get it to work again and what makes it work? my impression was the latter... [[User:Rocky8311|Rocky8311]] 01:32, 4 November 2005 (EST)

:How is that different than reverse engineering? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 01:35, 4 November 2005 (EST)

::Wait, yeah, reverse-engineering is when you analyze something to build your own; just analyzing the Raider to learn how to fly it again isn't that --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 09:45, 4 November 2005 (EST)

:::No, it's when you take something apart to find out how it works, rather than building it from scratch. See [[Wikipedia:Reverse engineering|Reverse engineering]]. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 10:48, 4 November 2005 (EST)

As to the question "Who wrote "CYLON" on Boomer's locker mirror?" I think the answer is Boomer herself. The scene starts with here looking like she just woke up from sleeping and when she's opening the locker and later the medicine bottle it looks like she has something yellow on her fingers. --[[User:Yorthen|Yorthen]] 14:13, 15 October 2006 (CDT)

:I always thought it was Boomer herself too. But the "The Story So Far" recap said it were other crewmembers who suspected her to be a Cylon. But we don't really have to accept that as the one truth, and I prefer that it was Sharon --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:21, 15 October 2006 (CDT)

::I don't think what is said in "The Story So Far" is meant to indicate that it was some other who wrote it, but rather a more general statement that some crew-members began to suspect that she might be a Cylon (probably meaning Chief Tyrol). --[[User:Yorthen|Yorthen]] 14:10, 16 October 2006 (CDT)

== "No more mr. nice Gaius" ==

Don't you think, that this statement, "No more mr. nice Gaius", cried loudly by Baltar in the restroom, is a reference to an Alice Cooper song, titled "No More Mr. Nice Guy"?
{{unsigned|TarsoyGer}}

:No, I'd say it's a reference to a common colloquial phrase, just like the song is. [[User:Btman|Btman]] 04:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Not that kind of shot? ==

When the Doc is preparing to give Roslin her shot, and she bares her arm, he tells her, "it's not that kind of shot." Maybe I'm being dense, but ... what? I'm sure he didn't mean it was tequila. [[User:Btman|Btman]] 04:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:He was clearly going to give her a shot in a more personal region, like her bottom. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::Fair enough; that seemed like the simplest explanation, but the way the scene cut away and never returned to it made it seem like there was meant to be more significance to it than just a comedic aside. Just seemed like an odd directing decision, I guess. [[User:Btman|Btman]] 18:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Cutting away and not returning is standard for a comedic aside. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<noinclude></noinclude>

== Don't make me angry Mr MeGee; You would not like me when I am angry! ==

In the projection the Virtual Caprica Six tells Gaius Baltar; a line similar to the 1970's TV series The Incredible Hulk; the Dr. David Banner said to the Reporter who is chasing him. Caprica Six says "Don't make me angry Gaius, You would not like me when I am angry" I remember BSG TOS ran around about the same time period as the Bill Bixby Hulk show...and if you have noticed things like characters saying things like "For Sagan's Sake" being a reference to the astronmer Carl Sagan, whose show "Cosmos" premeired in the TOS or 1980 spinoff time...I wonder if Ron Moore or David Eick threw in more of these little puns to see if people like us notice them!--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Balator

2009-02-10T01:26:05Z

Balator:

Fan of the entire BSG franchise; generally sci-fi in general. I often wonder about the terms "Trekie" which has been replaced with the term "trekker" to denote Star Trek fans; I have even heard of the term "Warsi" to mean a Star Wars fan. So I would claim, if I were to claim an anything; myself to be a "Fracker" or a "Galactican." There is nothing else I would care to say about myself at this momment--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:18, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive6

2009-02-10T01:23:41Z

Balator:

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== Canada Dates ==

Canada's broadcasts for the last ten episodes of season for resume at the same time that the US does: http://forums.spacecast.com/forums/thread/370361.aspx This means that 4.11 is broadcast 10PM eastern 16 January 2009 on Space: The Imagination Station, can we get the front page updated please?
-- [[User:Xdroop|Xdroop]] 18:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks, Xdroop. Not to slight Canadians, but because of space and format limits as well as the "home port" of Battlestar Wiki (the US), we show the US air times there on the Main Page. On the episode guides, the air date for the UK is also shown, but because we'd be doing that for every nation, we limit it at that. Good that you don't have to wait like the Brits to see BSG (they normally have 1-3 months delay!) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 00:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Blog ==

What happened to the blog? Just a big empty space I can see (monobook). [[User:OTW|OTW]] 01:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:Moved it to the [[Portal:Blogs]]. I can't find this empty space on monobook. Hard refresh. It was casuing slow downs being on the main page. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 01:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The Last Aired Episode and Next Episode are both out of date. Don't know how to change this myself. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 22:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== new movie - news worthy? ==

A new BSG movie seems official (not s4, not caprica), see:
http://community.livejournal.com/aarondouglas/113815.html and http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/08/battlestar-gala.html --[[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 16:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Question: If hardcore Star Trek fans are called "Trekkers" or "Trekkies" and hardcore Star Wars fans are called "Warsies" then are BSG fans "Galacticans?"--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
* "frakers" or "motherfrakers" if you wanna shine em on. --[[User:Tritium|Tritium]] 01:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
*Actually that don't sound too bad...It's probably more official than "Galactican" as I thought it would be--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== navigation pane? ==

just curious, where did the main navigation pane go? (main page, recent changes etc) this is just odd. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 20:15, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

anyone? maybe it's only me (ie: me=noob), but it's a lot harder to navigate the wiki without it... (or just make clicking the the logo take you back to the main page) thanks. [[User:Raziel Anarki|Raziel Anarki]] 18:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yup, not having a recent changes link etc. is pretty weird. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 20:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Episode ==

Why does it still say that the next episode to air is "[[Sometimes a Great Notion]]"? Shouldn't it be "[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]"? -- [[User:Space Lizard|Space Lizard]] 14:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:I went ahead and changed it, but it probably should wait and be change after the episode airs in the UK. Thoughts, anyone? -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 17:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
::Good on ya, Frankie. The next episode box follows the US air schedule (as indicated by the little US flags in it). It's hard to accommodate all the different airing schedules (Canada, UK, etc.) and I think by far the vast majority of our audience is from the US broadcast region. It's not REALLY a big deal, in that it's pretty easy to navigate between eps when you get into them, but that's the way we've done it historically. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 00:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Balator

2009-02-10T01:18:37Z

Balator: New page: Fan of the entire BSG franchise; generally sci-fi in general. I often wonder about the terms "Trekie" which has been replaced with the term "trekker" to denote Star Trek fans; I have even...

Fan of the entire BSG franchise; generally sci-fi in general. I often wonder about the terms "Trekie" which has been replaced with the term "trekker" to denote Star Trek fans; I have even heard of the term "Warsi" to mean a Star Wars fan. So I claim if I were to claim an anything; myself to be a "Galactican." There is nothing else I would care to say about myself at this momment--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:18, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Philosophy in Battlestar Galactica/Archive 1

2009-02-10T01:07:03Z

Balator:

Building a philosophy page within battlestarwiki is a daunting task, one that might quickly spin out of control if the subject is not limited to its relationship to BSG.

In my opinion, BSG is so enthralling to fans not so much due to its own content as it is due to the imagination and pondering it promotes in the minds of its fans.

Therefore, the potential for this page to be a great and meaningful contribution to battlestar wiki is great. This is a bold move designed to help those who couldn't afford to squander precious years at some stuffy university reading Plato, Holmes, Mill, Locke, Kant, Derrida, Focault, et al- but recognize some of the thoughts floating around in the chimeric battlestar universe.

Perhaps the best thing about battlestar is that it presents characters that are flawed and evolving constantly. There are few true heroes and villains in battlestar. Hardly anything in battlestar can be consistently labeled because something that applies to the Cylons might change in the next episode as they evolve as a species/culture, make mistakes, try new approaches, and embrace or shed beliefs. The same goes for humans, be they Capricans, Sagitatarians, or Vegetarians.

Guidelines:

1) In writing this page, let us limit things as they apply to BSG- punt things off to wikipedia's philosophy pages in case people want to explore further. We will need to cut off tangents at the border of the BSG universe or things will get out of control.

2) Distinguish between our world and BSG very clearly. We can briefly explain an ethical principle, and then give an example from BSG where it seems to be at play.

3) Make sure that we are attributing things to BSG speculatively, not in any concrete fashion- only the writers of BSG know for sure what was meant, if they meant anything at all. The show seems to be inherently ambiguous in general and this is probably on purpose.

4) The more we can identify scenes, specific episodes, time tracks, give quotes, provide citations, and link things to sources such as Wikpedia (but certainly not limited to this), the more solid this will be. For example, cite an event in BSG such as Chief Tyrell's embracing of certain labor concerns and link it loosely to political philosophy as it may apply- perhaps Marxism.

5) This page is as certain to evolve as cylons and man are certain to evolve. This is God's plan. Embrace it.

I welcome all the help I can get on this page. I am going to need it!

So say we all? {{unsigned|Maximilian333}}

:Welcome, Max. I appreciate the work you've done. Since Battlestar Wiki is intended as an encyclopedia and not for analysis for commentary, there is some rewriting and sourcing that needs to be done for this article to fit on the wiki. I and other contributors may take a stab at doing this, but it is important that you cite external sources that support the comparisons, contrasts, and information on the series that you show. You can use internal links for characters, of course, but it is very important that the article does not sound as if you specifically wrote it as a personal analysis. Hopefully other contributors will look at what's been done and give other comments that may help. There is much philosophy in the show, but it is difficult to quantify objectively. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:44, 7 March 2007 (CST)
::Hopefully you'll remove the "major edit" tag soon so I can begin assisting. :) I personally have tried to use the "Notes" section of many of the articles to show real world parallels and possible influences. Those entries will probably be useful to you. Rest assured this page will be on my watchlist, it sounds like great fun as well as being a very valuable contribution if, as Spencerian notes, everything is cited correctly. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 01:05, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

== Thanks / call to arms ==

Thank you for the vote of confidence, Spencerian. As I am neither a philosopher nor a professional writer, it is not my intent to finalize this article alone. I expect this to be a messy and chaotic process, but the end result should be worth the work.

I can already tell that it will be very important not to overdefine or overattribute anything to the series. One could kill all of the mystery and allure of the series by overanalyzing or stating their opinions as fact. But philosophy can lead us into deeper examination of the meaning contained in the series. I recently added the statement that the philosophy of battlestar is as much created in the minds of viewers as in the minds of the writers and actors.

I'll do my best to keep things objective, use qualifiers, and provide citations. Additionally, I will try to sift philosophy-related ideas from religion, politics, and mythology and punt these to appropriate pages.

Again, if anyone has any thoughts about something and can clarify or lend support through citations, please do be so bold as to click "edit" above and go for it. Don't let the major edit sign stop you if you want to do some simple formatting or linking, or if a great idea strikes you. -- [[User:Maximilian333|Maximilian333]] 14:14, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

:Remember that you can't use <nowiki>[[...]]</nowiki> to link to Wikipedia articles. The brackets only work for BSWiki. To link to a general concept on Wikipedia do this: <nowiki>[[w:Article name on Wikipedia|Link name on BSWiki]]</nowiki>. Notice the "w".
:And please sign your comments on talk pages, and there only, with four tildes, like this: <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:43, 11 March 2007 (CDT)
:Also, please do not overlink. One link to [[Laura Roslin]] per section is enough (I just encountered a section with no less than three of those). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:23, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

== Visibility of this article ==

This is pretty interesting. However, at the moment, nothing links here. Any suggestions where to place a link or two, so this gets some love? I also made a similar suggestion on the [[BW:AN#Visibility_of_articles_about_.22meta.22_topics|Admin board]]. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:06, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
:I also stumbled across this recently while [[Special:Random|rolling the dice]]. You pose an excellent question! [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 21:47, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
::For now ,I put an link on it on [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)]]. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:19, 22 May 2007 (CDT)

== Accuracy of Science ==
In the Philosophical dilemma section there is the following sentance:
"Water" contains material that can be examined in light of the viewers understanding of determinism versus free will and also responsibility. Sharon Valerii's apparent blackouts or '''split personality''' Now what is incorrect or inaccurate is not the sentance itself but the fact that the word "split personality" is a link to a Wikipedia article on Schizophrenia; and not the Wikipedia article on "Dissociative Identity Disorder" which would be more clearly about split personality. I would edit it myself; however in respect of users here, I prefer to leave my comments here in the discussions. This is a well written Wiki. --[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive6

2008-09-09T01:54:12Z

Balator: add signature

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What happened to the blog? Just a big empty space I can see (monobook). [[User:OTW|OTW]] 01:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:Moved it to the [[Portal:Blogs]]. I can't find this empty space on monobook. Hard refresh. It was casuing slow downs being on the main page. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 01:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The Last Aired Episode and Next Episode are both out of date. Don't know how to change this myself. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 22:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== new movie - news worthy? ==

A new BSG movie seems official (not s4, not caprica), see:
http://community.livejournal.com/aarondouglas/113815.html and http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/08/battlestar-gala.html --[[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 16:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Question: If hardcore Star Trek fans are called "Trekkers" or "Trekkies" and hardcore Star Wars fans are called "Warsies" then are BSG fans "Galacticans?"--[[User:Balator|Balator]] 01:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive6

2008-09-09T01:53:13Z

Balator: ask question

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What happened to the blog? Just a big empty space I can see (monobook). [[User:OTW|OTW]] 01:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:Moved it to the [[Portal:Blogs]]. I can't find this empty space on monobook. Hard refresh. It was casuing slow downs being on the main page. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 01:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The Last Aired Episode and Next Episode are both out of date. Don't know how to change this myself. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 22:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== new movie - news worthy? ==

A new BSG movie seems official (not s4, not caprica), see:
http://community.livejournal.com/aarondouglas/113815.html and http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/08/battlestar-gala.html --[[User:Xlynx|Xlynx]] 16:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Question: If hardcore Star Trek fans are called "Trekkers" or "Trekkies" and hardcore Star Wars fans are called "Warsies" then are BSG fans "Galacticans?"