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2009-03-22T02:18:59Z

Acaeton: /* Kara's 'Yellow Moon' Comment */

== Earth uninhabited/primitve/catastrophe?? ==

Everyone has still the amazing finale of Season 3 in mind. We were able to take a look at the Earth of BSG RDM. Although, we could see the familiar blue planet for a few seconds only, it was enough to determine one fact: There were no major cities visible from orbit, nor any other signs indicating that earth is actually inhabited with a highly advanced civilization. This leads to the question what happend to the thirteenth tribe? Were they wiped out? Are they much more primitive than their 12 brothers? Or something completely different? In my opinion I believe that Earth is the true origin of mankind and that the remaining citizens of the planet have developed in the 4000 years since the exodus to such advanced and godlike beings (maybe comparable to the beings of Stargate, the ancients) that they no longer need to live in high-tech cities, but travel through the universe with their powers. I mean, look at the episode Maelstrom. I think an earth human took the role of Leoben to prepare Kara for their "life and death experience". If they are able to communicate with humans in dreams, pull viper pilots to earth in a maelstrom and even reverse the death of Kara Thrace than the earth humans must be extremely powerful beings! {{unsigned|Cortes}}

:I sure hope that it's uninhabited - but perhaps habitable again - and that it's the true origin of mankind. It still wouldn't explain the close technological and cultural similarities after thousands of years, but everything else would pretty much destroy the show in my eyes. Especially if it were an advanced society. This just isn't the type of show to either have incorporeal beings or have a story resolved by magical new technology. An alternative would be a complete parallel universe, where humans didn't develop on Earth. But that whole Earth thing has never been a favorite of mine anyways and is beginning to take up way too much screen time. I never felt that the show was ''about'' the search for Earth and liked it when that story went on in the background.

:Also, please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> or use the "sign your name" quick link in the edit box. That will add a timestamp and a signature after your posts. Moreover, for this type of speculative questions, I'd recommend [http://battlestarforum.com/index.php Battlestar Forum] (run by the same people as the wiki, though not as populated) over talk pages. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:41, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

== Age of Lion's Head Beacon ==

Is there a reference for the age of 3000 years of the beacon? The article about the beacon says nothing about it. --[[User:Akagi|Akagi]] 16:57, 14 December 2007 (CST)
:It's mentioned in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]" that the disease carried on the beacon is an exact match to one that was last reported "reported over 3,000 years ago. Right around the time that the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|13th Tribe]] left [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]]." I think that's where that comes from, which conflicts with Elosha's statement that the 13th Tribe left Kobol 4,000 years ago by the way. The [[Timeline (RDM)#Ancient History|timeline]] seems to suggest that they just went back later and left it there. You're right that ought to be in that article, I say go for it. --[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 02:25, 15 December 2007 (CST)

== Earth Time? ==

Given that things that happened on Galactica were tied into our reality here on Earth in some way, in the past or the future, or some other connection, in Season 4, when Earth be found, the year is 1940, during World War II. Or 10,000 BC or 2020, or present year (2008). I'm not sure at the moment, since creators avoid citing whether BSG takes place on the series' Earth's past, present, or future. [[User:Starkiller|Starkiller]] 08:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

== Picture ==

We need a picture of the post-apocalyptic earth. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 23:50, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if it's kosher to take it , but io9 pasted together a bunch of screenshots to get a panoramic here: http://io9.com/5018043/wheres-starbuck - I think we also need a Temple of Aurora cap. My friend said one of the burned out structures is clearly the remains of the Brooklyn Bridge. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:Jackdavinci|Jackdavinci]] 14:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think it's IO9's panorama, as I saw it elsewhere first. I have a nice temple of aurora cap, but every time I upload it gets "internal error, can't move file..." --[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 17:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

An interesting tidbit here, someone's uploaded pics of the set on flickr. Doesn't sound like it was even guarded. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/quite_contrary/1975927273/in/set-1004458/ Flickr pics]--[[User:Pearse|Pearse]] 17:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at that picture:
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:Kara_Thrace_Reconnaissance_Photos.png
you can read: Col Tigh
Battlestar Galactica
Battlestar Group 62

why 62 ???
--[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 17:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Kara's 'Yellow Moon' Comment ==

The original page formerly included this:
"[[Kara Thrace]]'s description of the moon she sees as 'yellow,' and the fact that this matches the scroll of Pythia, is curious and unexplained. Her photo shows a yellowish moon during a partial lunar eclipse over a mostly gray-white planet, though she described the planet as blue with white clouds. However, the photographs are very desaturated—to the point of being black and white—and very likely don't represent the true colors. She may have intended to say 'yellow star and moon' (referring to the star as yellow) instead of 'yellow moon and star.'"

This "note" stems largely from ignorance of the true color of objects in our solar system. The moon is not, despite what we see in the sky, grey and white. It is a dull mix of browns, rusts, and yellows. It could easily be described as "yellow" when viewed from space and in partial illumination from the Sun. The moon has an albedo of 0.12 (in other words, it is a relatively ''dark'' body), and only appears in the highly desaturated shades we see it due to the intensity of sunlight reflecting off it. See this real-color image for a visual: [http://cwx.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/chaissonat4/chapter1/medialib/image/g_earth_moon.jpeg].

Kara's comment was spot on. Also, our star is not really yellow--it is very close to 6500K white, but appears exaggeratedly yellow due to the same Rayleigh scattering that makes the sky blue.

-- [[User:Dharadvani|Dharadvani]] 05:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

: Great catch! Thanks! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

=="New Earth" messup==

I rewrote the article on earth, as you stated that the planet in daybreak part II was not earth. But, you can see from orbit that it is earth because you can see africa clearly from orbit and on a map that adama points to has a VERY detailed map of austrialia, africa, asia, and pretty much the entire earth. They say while watching a native tribe that it is a miracle that humanity evolved 1,000,000 light years away (from caprica), not that it is 100000 light years from earth. it is not new earth, and they do not day that phrase at all in the episode. so can we change the name of the section? [[User:Acaeton|Acaeton]] 02:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Noneofyourbusiness

2009-03-22T02:14:14Z

Acaeton: /* Recent Revert Involving Earth */

== Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! ==

Welcome to the Wiki, Noneofyourbusiness. Feel free to tell us about yourself on [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|your user page]]. Before you get started on other edits, please read the [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions]], which details the policies we use in editing pages (this differs from many other wikis in consistent use of phrasing, abbreviations, format, and the like).

Also, if you have any questions or suggestions you wish to offer, please feel free to do so either on your user talk page, the [[Battlestar Wiki:Wikipedian Quorum|Wikipedian Quorum]] or [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]]. Remember to sign your posts on any talk pages using four tildes (~~~~)! --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:54, 3 March 2006 (CST)

==Recent Revert Involving Earth==

I rewrote the article on earth, as you stated that the planet in daybreak part II was not earth. But, you can see from orbit that it is earth because you can see africa clearly from orbit and on a map that adama points to has a VERY detailed map of austrialia, africa, asia, and pretty much the entire earth. They say while watching a native tribe that it is a miracle that humanity evolved 1,000,000 light years away (from caprica), not that it is 100000 light years from earth. it is not new earth, and they do not day that phrase at all in the episode. [[User:Acaeton|Acaeton]] 02:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==
Thanks for the heads up! I didn't recognize the character name, so I was afraid there might be some Lay Down Your Burdens II spoiler stuff. As it turns out it's just a minor character. There IS a Sylverviper (or similar) on the scifi.com boards, but we're not related. I do have a Steelviper account there too, but all of 3-5 posts. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:51, 9 March 2006 (CST)

== Six's outfit ==

almost all my family work in the NYC Garment Industry, so I'm an unofficial "expert." I assume you moved the virtual Six to the [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations]] article?

Yes.--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:51, 20 March 2006

==Talk:Precipice==
Merv posted a lengthy comment, which I replied to. He then thought better of it and deleted it, making my reply bizarre and nonsensical, so I restored it with <nowiki><del></nowiki> tags to indicate that he'd withdrawn the opinion. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:28, 22 April 2006 (CDT)
:Cool. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:09, 22 April 2006 (CDT)

==A Favor==
Noneofyourbusiness, I've asked a favor of you on [[User talk:The Merovingian]]. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:48, 22 April 2006 (CDT)

==Minor?==
Why do you mark almost all of your non-talk edits minor? Some of them include things like new paragraphs. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:05, 30 April 2006 (CDT)
:Well, one paragraph is minor, isn't it? Is that a bad thing?--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:15, 30 April 2006 (EST)
::It's pretty subjective, but according to Wikipedia, "any change that affects the meaning of an article is not minor, even if it involves one word." (According to [[Wikipedia:Minor edit]]). Minor edits are usually more intended for typos, spelling errors, etc, that don't change the meaning of an article and need not be reviewed. Some people trust that all minor edits are truly minor, and ignore them (even removing them from results on Recent Changes). Other people treat all edits as needing review. I tend to go with the latter, until I get the feel for how a particular user marks their edits. If their "minor" definition matches mine over time I start to ignore their minor edits (except for the occasional "audit" to make sure we're still on the same page). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:18, 30 April 2006 (CDT)

== English Style Usage ==

Hi, there. I noted you were correcting text in [[Cylon agent speculation]]. Please note that [[Joe Beaudoin]] has asked contributors to use American English formatting when editing. If you're British, of course, you can and should enter your initial contributions in the Queen's English. However, please do not re-edit correctly spelled American English entries to their British counterpart unless necessary. Thanks! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:37, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
:I am American. I don't know what you're talking about. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:59, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
: (A) I think you're referring to the edits by [[User:Mercifull]]. (B) The words Mercifull corrected were not correctly spelled in any version of English. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:06, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
::You can blame my spell checker for that. apologies. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 02:59, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
::Actually no, you have reverted back my typos :-/ For example: you changed the word into exhibits into exhibts. exhibts is not a word on dictionary.com. Another example... You also reverted interrogated back to interogated which is not a word either. I dont want to star a revert war you you have just removed my correct (albeit British English) spellings for your typos in ''neither'' version of english --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:40, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
:::I didn't do those things. And what I meant was that the words were incorrectly spelled before you corrected them. I am not the one who reverted them to the incorrect spellings that you corrected. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:14, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
::::My bad, NB. I've noted his adjustments. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:25, 5 July 2006 (CDT)

== About Revert in [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)]] ==

NB, I reverted your last addition. To my knowledge and research, no humans in actual history have experienced a ''nuclear'' shockwave of the magnitude that levels Baltar's home. Soldiers have been placed in foxholes, and some naval ships have been parked outside of test blasts on the ocean, but that's about as close as my data indicates. While less-powerful ''atomic'' shockwaves from the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts did leave a few survivors, these can't directly equate since they are two explosive types. If you can cite your specific sources for your information, your contribution might have greater weight to stand. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:24, 5 July 2006 (CDT)
:No one's survived a nuclear shockwave (as no one has experienced one), but people have survived shockwaves. The one that hit Baltar's house didn't seem very strong to me. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 21:39, 5 July 2006 (CDT)
::I think Spence that what he meant is what I've been saying that Baltar's house wasn't near Caprica City so he wasn't in the actual "nuclear blast/shockwave" (That might have been poor wording) but the air burst shockwave many people survived. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:17, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
:::Quite. It's not unrealistic for Baltar to have survived such a wave with cover. He was just thrown around. What killed Six wasn't even the actual shockwave, it was the shards of glass flying into her body. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:19, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
::::Exactly. From the windows breaking. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 17:28, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
:Spence, what, in your mind, is the difference between an "atomic" shockwave and a "nuclear" shockwave? Are you getting at the difference between traditional fission bombs and the more powerful hydrogen bombs developed in the 50s? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:25, 6 July 2006 (CDT)

== About your last edit on [[SFM]] ==

NB, I rolled back your last re-edit as I concur with the Merovingian's last edit. SFM could plausibly mean ''anything'', so stating one possibility out of several hundreds of thousands of word combinations without any official source to back it up is truly and purely speculative. Until we get some sourced data, it is best to leave this one alone. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:50, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
:Sagittaron Free Militia. Silly Fluffy Meerkats... Oh. Right. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:02, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
::Or "Smartass Frakking Morons." :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:13, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Okay. But Sagittaron Freedom Movement is the most logical possibility as it fits the common naming pattern of such groups. SFM couldn't plausibly mean just anything. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 13:08, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Logically plausible, yes. But, unlike our logical interpretations on events (which are eventually proven right or wrong and later corrected), the meaning of an ''abbreviation'' has to be taken more literally. Despite the Space Shuttle accidents, to take a humorous example, the acronym "NASA" never really meant "Need Another Seven Astronauts." It may mean ''nothing'' at all to whomever created it--there are a few Earthly groups that form acronyms without a real meaning behind them, just because the letters sound good together. Either way, sadly, we can't know until Zarek opens his face. Maybe this is a [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques]] question... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:06, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

== LDYB and occupation Prev/Next ==

We talked about the Prev/Next tabs [[Template_talk:Episode_list_%28RDM_season_2%29|here]] and not to include them in the prev/next cronology so I just reverted back tot he last version. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:28, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:Oh, I didn't see that. But actually Shane, from what I can see, no consensus was reached. In fact, that discussion seems to have been about the Next button on the season two page, not to do with the templates on the episode pages. I changed them because the Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance page has "Previous: Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" and "Next: Occupation", and everything should be consistent. Also, Merv is correct in that the webisodes form a part of the series chronology. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 12:56, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
::Nope. It's been stated time and again that you don't need to see the web episodes to understand the gap between Season 2 and 3. Plus the prev/next are the same thing as the cronogoloy section of the episode data. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:19, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

== Grace Park Video ==
Was that your question she answered on her Q&A video? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 15:05, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Yes. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:49, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::Great question. Very amusing answer. If she hums to her baby, that has ''fanboy'' points that we can only begin to comprehend here. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:19, 21 September 2006 (CDT)

== Rock ==
Er-HEM, rock is most certainly music!!! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 20:40, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
:More like obnoxious noise. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:01, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
::I doubt you've heard proper rock. Look up some Bruce Springsteen or Led Zeppelin. Then we can talk. :) --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:18, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

== Recent Rollback ==

I reverted a portion of your edits on [[Basestar (RDM)]]. Class names for the capital ships, battlestar and basestar (as well as baseship) are never capitalized as a proper noun for the same reason we do not capitalize "aircraft carrier," per [[BW:SAC]]. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:05, 14 November 2006 (CST)
:Well, technically class names - like "Mercury class" are capitalized, but "battlestar/basestar" is a ship type. Like "The Nimitz class aircraft carrier ''Enterprise''" and not "Nimitz class Aircraft Carrier..." --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:17, 14 November 2006 (CST)
::I can understand that for battlestars, but Basestars aren't just a ship class they're a type of Cylon. We capitalize Raider and Centurion. Regardless, isn't Base Ship two words? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:44, 14 November 2006 (CST)

== Was almost done... ==

when we got edit conflicted. I'm done now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:I thought I'd help out, didn't expect you to be so quick. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::Why they call me speady Felix :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Noneofyourbusiness

2009-03-22T02:13:26Z

Acaeton:

== Welcome to Battlestar Wiki! ==

Welcome to the Wiki, Noneofyourbusiness. Feel free to tell us about yourself on [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|your user page]]. Before you get started on other edits, please read the [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions]], which details the policies we use in editing pages (this differs from many other wikis in consistent use of phrasing, abbreviations, format, and the like).

Also, if you have any questions or suggestions you wish to offer, please feel free to do so either on your user talk page, the [[Battlestar Wiki:Wikipedian Quorum|Wikipedian Quorum]] or [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]]. Remember to sign your posts on any talk pages using four tildes (~~~~)! --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:54, 3 March 2006 (CST)

==Recent Revert Involving Earth==

I rewrote the article on earth, as you stated that the planet in daybreak part II was not earth. But, you can see from orbit that it is earth because you can see africa clearly from orbit and on a map that adama points to has a VERY detailed map of austrialia, africa, asia, and pretty much the entire earth. They say while watching a native tribe that it is a miracle that humanity evolved 1,000,000 light years away (from caprica), not that it is 100000 light years from earth. it is not new earth, and they do not day that phrase at all in the episode.

== Thanks! ==
Thanks for the heads up! I didn't recognize the character name, so I was afraid there might be some Lay Down Your Burdens II spoiler stuff. As it turns out it's just a minor character. There IS a Sylverviper (or similar) on the scifi.com boards, but we're not related. I do have a Steelviper account there too, but all of 3-5 posts. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:51, 9 March 2006 (CST)

== Six's outfit ==

almost all my family work in the NYC Garment Industry, so I'm an unofficial "expert." I assume you moved the virtual Six to the [[Cylon-Related Hallucinations]] article?

Yes.--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:51, 20 March 2006

==Talk:Precipice==
Merv posted a lengthy comment, which I replied to. He then thought better of it and deleted it, making my reply bizarre and nonsensical, so I restored it with <nowiki><del></nowiki> tags to indicate that he'd withdrawn the opinion. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:28, 22 April 2006 (CDT)
:Cool. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:09, 22 April 2006 (CDT)

==A Favor==
Noneofyourbusiness, I've asked a favor of you on [[User talk:The Merovingian]]. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:48, 22 April 2006 (CDT)

==Minor?==
Why do you mark almost all of your non-talk edits minor? Some of them include things like new paragraphs. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:05, 30 April 2006 (CDT)
:Well, one paragraph is minor, isn't it? Is that a bad thing?--[[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:15, 30 April 2006 (EST)
::It's pretty subjective, but according to Wikipedia, "any change that affects the meaning of an article is not minor, even if it involves one word." (According to [[Wikipedia:Minor edit]]). Minor edits are usually more intended for typos, spelling errors, etc, that don't change the meaning of an article and need not be reviewed. Some people trust that all minor edits are truly minor, and ignore them (even removing them from results on Recent Changes). Other people treat all edits as needing review. I tend to go with the latter, until I get the feel for how a particular user marks their edits. If their "minor" definition matches mine over time I start to ignore their minor edits (except for the occasional "audit" to make sure we're still on the same page). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:18, 30 April 2006 (CDT)

== English Style Usage ==

Hi, there. I noted you were correcting text in [[Cylon agent speculation]]. Please note that [[Joe Beaudoin]] has asked contributors to use American English formatting when editing. If you're British, of course, you can and should enter your initial contributions in the Queen's English. However, please do not re-edit correctly spelled American English entries to their British counterpart unless necessary. Thanks! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:37, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
:I am American. I don't know what you're talking about. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:59, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
: (A) I think you're referring to the edits by [[User:Mercifull]]. (B) The words Mercifull corrected were not correctly spelled in any version of English. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:06, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
::You can blame my spell checker for that. apologies. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 02:59, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
::Actually no, you have reverted back my typos :-/ For example: you changed the word into exhibits into exhibts. exhibts is not a word on dictionary.com. Another example... You also reverted interrogated back to interogated which is not a word either. I dont want to star a revert war you you have just removed my correct (albeit British English) spellings for your typos in ''neither'' version of english --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:40, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
:::I didn't do those things. And what I meant was that the words were incorrectly spelled before you corrected them. I am not the one who reverted them to the incorrect spellings that you corrected. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:14, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
::::My bad, NB. I've noted his adjustments. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:25, 5 July 2006 (CDT)

== About Revert in [[Battlestar Galactica (2005 Novel)]] ==

NB, I reverted your last addition. To my knowledge and research, no humans in actual history have experienced a ''nuclear'' shockwave of the magnitude that levels Baltar's home. Soldiers have been placed in foxholes, and some naval ships have been parked outside of test blasts on the ocean, but that's about as close as my data indicates. While less-powerful ''atomic'' shockwaves from the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts did leave a few survivors, these can't directly equate since they are two explosive types. If you can cite your specific sources for your information, your contribution might have greater weight to stand. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:24, 5 July 2006 (CDT)
:No one's survived a nuclear shockwave (as no one has experienced one), but people have survived shockwaves. The one that hit Baltar's house didn't seem very strong to me. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 21:39, 5 July 2006 (CDT)
::I think Spence that what he meant is what I've been saying that Baltar's house wasn't near Caprica City so he wasn't in the actual "nuclear blast/shockwave" (That might have been poor wording) but the air burst shockwave many people survived. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:17, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
:::Quite. It's not unrealistic for Baltar to have survived such a wave with cover. He was just thrown around. What killed Six wasn't even the actual shockwave, it was the shards of glass flying into her body. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:19, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
::::Exactly. From the windows breaking. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 17:28, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
:Spence, what, in your mind, is the difference between an "atomic" shockwave and a "nuclear" shockwave? Are you getting at the difference between traditional fission bombs and the more powerful hydrogen bombs developed in the 50s? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:25, 6 July 2006 (CDT)

== About your last edit on [[SFM]] ==

NB, I rolled back your last re-edit as I concur with the Merovingian's last edit. SFM could plausibly mean ''anything'', so stating one possibility out of several hundreds of thousands of word combinations without any official source to back it up is truly and purely speculative. Until we get some sourced data, it is best to leave this one alone. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:50, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
:Sagittaron Free Militia. Silly Fluffy Meerkats... Oh. Right. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:02, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
::Or "Smartass Frakking Morons." :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:13, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Okay. But Sagittaron Freedom Movement is the most logical possibility as it fits the common naming pattern of such groups. SFM couldn't plausibly mean just anything. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 13:08, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Logically plausible, yes. But, unlike our logical interpretations on events (which are eventually proven right or wrong and later corrected), the meaning of an ''abbreviation'' has to be taken more literally. Despite the Space Shuttle accidents, to take a humorous example, the acronym "NASA" never really meant "Need Another Seven Astronauts." It may mean ''nothing'' at all to whomever created it--there are a few Earthly groups that form acronyms without a real meaning behind them, just because the letters sound good together. Either way, sadly, we can't know until Zarek opens his face. Maybe this is a [[Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques]] question... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:06, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

== LDYB and occupation Prev/Next ==

We talked about the Prev/Next tabs [[Template_talk:Episode_list_%28RDM_season_2%29|here]] and not to include them in the prev/next cronology so I just reverted back tot he last version. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:28, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
:Oh, I didn't see that. But actually Shane, from what I can see, no consensus was reached. In fact, that discussion seems to have been about the Next button on the season two page, not to do with the templates on the episode pages. I changed them because the Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance page has "Previous: Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" and "Next: Occupation", and everything should be consistent. Also, Merv is correct in that the webisodes form a part of the series chronology. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 12:56, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
::Nope. It's been stated time and again that you don't need to see the web episodes to understand the gap between Season 2 and 3. Plus the prev/next are the same thing as the cronogoloy section of the episode data. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:19, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

== Grace Park Video ==
Was that your question she answered on her Q&A video? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 15:05, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
:Yes. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:49, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::Great question. Very amusing answer. If she hums to her baby, that has ''fanboy'' points that we can only begin to comprehend here. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:19, 21 September 2006 (CDT)

== Rock ==
Er-HEM, rock is most certainly music!!! --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 20:40, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
:More like obnoxious noise. [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:01, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
::I doubt you've heard proper rock. Look up some Bruce Springsteen or Led Zeppelin. Then we can talk. :) --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:18, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

== Recent Rollback ==

I reverted a portion of your edits on [[Basestar (RDM)]]. Class names for the capital ships, battlestar and basestar (as well as baseship) are never capitalized as a proper noun for the same reason we do not capitalize "aircraft carrier," per [[BW:SAC]]. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:05, 14 November 2006 (CST)
:Well, technically class names - like "Mercury class" are capitalized, but "battlestar/basestar" is a ship type. Like "The Nimitz class aircraft carrier ''Enterprise''" and not "Nimitz class Aircraft Carrier..." --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:17, 14 November 2006 (CST)
::I can understand that for battlestars, but Basestars aren't just a ship class they're a type of Cylon. We capitalize Raider and Centurion. Regardless, isn't Base Ship two words? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 20:44, 14 November 2006 (CST)

== Was almost done... ==

when we got edit conflicted. I'm done now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:I thought I'd help out, didn't expect you to be so quick. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::Why they call me speady Felix :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Earth (RDM)

2009-03-22T01:25:56Z

Acaeton: ok, whoever wrote this detail: watch daybreak part II again, you messed it up.where galactica is orbiting, you see africa and a map that adama uses you see the entire earth in detail

[[Image:Earth (RDM).jpg|thumb|right|300px|The second Earth seen from space in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]".]]

In the [[Re-imagined Series]] '''Earth''' is the believed destination of the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] of [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]], as attested in the [[Sacred Scrolls]]. The Thirteenth Tribe were [[humanoid Cylon]]s that left for Earth nearly 4,000 years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]]. The remaining Twelve Tribes leave Kobol to form the Colonies approximately 2,000 years after the Thirteenth Tribe's departure. Earth is the object of the [[Fleet (RDM)|fleet]]'s quest following the fall.

The Earth is found to have been rendered inhabitable by nuclear war between its humanoid and mechanical Cylon inhabitants, but the fleet eventually finds a thriving planet on which to settle. This world will also be known as Earth.

==A Cause for Hope==
Earth is first mentioned by Commander [[William Adama|Adama]] during a speech after the battlestar's funeral services after escaping from [[Ragnar Anchorage]]. Adama claims that Earth was a top military secret that can now be revealed (see [[Miniseries]]).

In a private conversation with new President [[Laura Roslin]] immediately afterward, Adama admits that he has not the slightest idea where Earth may be, if it exists. His true motivation was inspirational; he intended to bolster the morale of the population (especially his beleaguered crew) in the aftermath of the [[Cylon attack|near-annihilation]] of humanity.

==Tangible Faith==
While she is initially skeptical, rebuking Adama for his dishonesty, Laura Roslin's faith grows perceptibly throughout the first season. Her use of [[chamalla]] to treat her cancer causes vivid dreams and hallucinations. Roslin increasingly interprets these as prophetic visions, especially after the Fleet accidentally discovers the legendary homeworld [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] ([[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I]]).

Eventually, a [[Arrow of Apollo|religious artifact]] is recovered which later aids in revealing the general location of Earth ([[Home, Part II]]).

In the activated [[Tomb of Athena]], the stars of the Twelve Colonies are represented in the twelve [[Wikipedia:Zodiac|Zodiacal]] constellations, as viewed from Earth, recognized by Roslin as the shapes of the original flags of the Twelve Colonies. The chamber itself was intended by its builders to be a stylized replica of the night sky of the Earth, from which all twelve constellations could be seen. This is corroborated by [[Kara Thrace]], who quotes [[Sacred Scrolls|scripture]], saying that Earth was the place where the people of the Thirteenth Tribe could look up into the sky and see their twelve brothers.<ref>Some viewers may question how information on Earth's location could be recorded in the Tomb before the Thirteenth Tribe left for Earth. Had the tribes already visited Earth? Did the tribes ''originate'' from Earth? For more information on the circular origins of humanity as it pertains to the Re-imagined Series, see the article on the [[Sacred Scrolls]].</ref>

Morerover, [[Lee Adama]] recognizes the [[Wikipedia:Lagoon Nebula|Lagoon Nebula]], also represented in the night sky of the mystery chamber. This astronomical object is known to Fleet personnel, since [[William Adama|Commander Adama]] remarks that this celestial body would take some time to reach.

==More Clues to Earth==
Over a year later, the Fleet discovers a derelict [[Basestar (RDM)|Cylon baseship]] near the [[Lion's Head Nebula]], a celestial marker revealed by [[Felix Gaeta]] to Admiral Adama and President Roslin ([[Torn]]). The information is derived from [[Gaius Baltar]]'s research on the path to Earth. The derelict basestar finds an [[Lion's Head beacon|ancient beacon]] left by the Thirteenth Tribe. While a Colonial boarding party finds the probe, it also learns that the [[Humanoid Cylon]]s aboard the basestar are dead or dying, suggesting a deadly pathogen was released by the beacon. In their haste to leave and for the safety of the Fleet, the beacon is abandoned on the basestar, where it is destroyed when the basestar self-destructs ([[A Measure of Salvation]]).

After the Fleet must gather needed foodstuffs from the [[algae planet]], believed previously uninhabited by humans, [[Galen Tyrol]] senses and finds the [[Temple of Five]], an ancient [[temple]] built by the Thirteenth Tribe, as told in the [[Sacred Scrolls]], apparently built during a stopover on this world. Believed to be hidden inside the Temple of Five is the [[Eye of Jupiter]], an artifact that may provide more clues to the location of Earth. However, a Cylon force arrives with the same intentions on the Eye, leading to a standoff between Adama and the [[basestar command]] ([[The Eye of Jupiter]]). The Eye is later revealed to be the algae planet's own star as it began to nova, taking the form of the circular starburst patterns throughout the Temple of Five. While the Colonials are not privy to the special holograph feature of the Temple that the Cylons witness in the early moments of the nova, the Colonials are later are able to discern the information of the new nova as a waypoint to the next marker, a nebula in the [[Ionian system]] ([[Rapture]]).

When the Fleet arrives at the nebula, it is intercepted by four basestars. Unable to escape due to a mysterious, crippling Fleet-wide power outage, ''Galactica'' is forced to prepare for attack and launches Vipers and Raptors. [[Lee Adama|Apollo]] breaks off from the attack to track an "Unknown" contact on [[DRADIS]]. The contact is Captain [[Kara Thrace|Kara "Starbuck" Thrace]], miraculously [[Maelstrom|returned from the dead]] with news that she has been to Earth, knows its location and how to take the Fleet there.

The episode "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" concludes with a sweeping zoom from the Fleet, the Cylons, the Ionian nebula and to an arm of the [[W:Milky Way|Milky Way]] and to a zoom in to Earth itself, confirming that Earth is an actual location (from the perspective of the viewers), showing Earth's North American continent.<ref>The depiction of Earth includes a geographically accurate landmark: the Balize lobe of the [[w:Mississippi River Delta|Mississippi river delta]], a feature formed between the 16th and 20th Centuries of the real-world Earth. However, no further conclusions should be inferred as the series creators deliberately avoid confirming whether ''Battlestar Galactica'' occurs in the real-world Earth's past, present, or future.</ref>

According to the [[Hybrid]], the [[Final Five]] are from the "home of the 13th," generally interpreted as Earth ([[Faith]]). This matches statements made in the "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" claiming that the Temple of Five was built by people from the thirteenth tribe.

===Starbuck's Visit===
[[Image:Kara Thrace Reconnaissance Photos.png|thumb|right|200px|Starbuck's guncam photo of Earth.]]
Starbuck claims she visited Earth in her Viper, a trip lasting 6 hours according to her Viper's clock but months having passed in the Fleet. She is unaware of how she got to and from Earth in a Viper with no FTL capability. She describes Earth as having blue seas and white clouds, and took a variety of photos from her Viper. She also describes a "yellow moon and star" matching the descriptions by Pythia. Her photos have star patterns matching the zodiacs seen in the [[Tomb of Athena]]. On the return trip, she describes seeing a ringed gas giant planet, a "flashing triple star" and a comet. This turns out to be a vision of a burning basestar (the comet) around a gas giant at the site of a [[Cylon Civil War]] battle ([[Faith]]).

After the Fleet leaves the Ionian Nebula, Thrace feels pain with each jump and is overcome by a strong sense that the Fleet is going the wrong way ([[He That Believeth In Me]]). She confronts President Roslin, the only person she reckons can persuade the Admiral to change course, with a pistol in his quarters, which gets her thrown in the [[brig]]. She is later released to take command of the ''[[Demetrius]]'' on a mission to find Earth ([[Six of One]]).

== Arrival and Ruins ==
[[Image:Ruinedcity.jpg|200px|right|thumb|The ruined city found by the landing party.]]
After being informed by [[Samuel Anders|Anders]] and [[Galen Tyrol|Tyrol]] that something about [[Starbuck's Viper|her Viper]] is different, Starbuck climbs in the cockpit and powers up the electronics, detecting what appears to be a Colonial emergency locator signal, which only the Viper can receive. After determining that it is likely a bearing to Earth, the Fleet plots a jump and arrives in the planet's orbit, leading to ecstatic jubilation throughout the Fleet.

However, the happiness is short-lived when a combined human-Cylon team lands on the planet and arrives at a shore, overlooking a destroyed city. Moreover, Geiger counters detect radioactivity, indicating the city — and possibly the whole planet — suffered a nuclear catastrophe ([[Revelations]]).

The ruins are "thousands of years old." ([[Battlestar Galactica: The Top 10 Things You Need to Know]]).

Further scans on the planet reveal that the planet suffered a nuclear holocaust of some kind about 2,000 years before. There was still low-level radiation in the ground and water from the disaster and it is unsafe for living on even after so long. Further investigation reveals the truth about the inhabitants of the planet: they weren't human, they were Cylon, all of them. Among them lived the Final Five who have no memory of this and only realized this as they got small flashes (mostly of their deaths) while among the ruins. Ultimately the decision is made to abandon Earth as it is apparently uninhabitable and look for a new planet that supports life. Also on the surface is found the remains of a crashed Viper and apparently the dead body of Kara Thrace which is as of yet unexplained. ([[Sometimes a Great Notion]]) It is implied by Anders in ([[No Exit]]) that the Centurions on Earth did kill their masters. When he describes when the Final Five finally reached the colonies, Anders says, "It happened again!"

==Return to Earth==

During a cataclysmic battle in which the Cylon [[The Colony|Colony]] is destroyed, [[Kara Thrace]] enters the FTL coordinates for earth and jumps the Galactica above its moon. The Galactica then settles into an orbit above earth, and since she is no longer FTL capable, she sends out a raptor to the rendezvous point where the civilian fleet was waiting, and the fleet returned to earth and rejoined the Galactica. The people of the fleet decide to abandon their technology in an attempt to avoid repeating the cycle of destruction and rebirth, and the entire fleet is guided into the sun.

150,000 years later, Earth is home to a technically advanced civilization of mixed native human, Colonial human, and humanoid Cylon descent. Its people have long since forgotten this history, and are on the verge of major breakthroughs in robotics again. The fossilized remains of [[Hera Agathon]] have been recovered from the land of Tanzania by archaeologists from the Smithsonian Institute in the city of Washington, who have identified her as the "Mitochondrial Eve", the most recent common ancestor of all living humans in the direct maternal line ([[Daybreak, Part II]]).

== Official Statements ==

* ''[[Edward James Olmos]] jokingly describes how he thinks the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] could find Earth:''

:I personally — this is not [from] any of the writers, but my thing — I wanted to come into [the present day], find Earth, cruise on top of it, see it for what it is, and as we're coming down to it, we're blown up, we're nuked. And then [someone says to] the [[w:President of the United States|President of the United States]], which is [[w:George W. Bush|[George W.] Bush]], "They've been taken care of. Thank God you saved the world again." And you turn, and you see who told him that, and it's one of the Cylons. [''Laughs'']<ref>{{cite_web|url=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20015932_2,00.html|title=Four-ward, Cylons: Edward James Olmos|date=23 March 2007|accessdate=22 June 2007|last=Vary|first=Adam B.|format=|language=}}</ref>

==References==
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* See Also
** Sacred Scrolls#The Origin of Mankind|Origin of Mankind theories
* Other Series
** Earth (TOS)|Earth from TOS
** Earth (1980)|Earth from "Galactica 1980"
</pagesidebar>

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The Colony

2009-03-18T02:25:23Z

Acaeton:

<noinclude></noinclude>{{Ship Data
| image=Cylon World-Ship (The Colony).jpg
| title= The Colony
| race= [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]]
| type= Military
| ftl= Yes
| crew= [[Humanoid Cylon]]s, [[Cylon Centurion]]s
| role= Cylon Homeworld
| weapons= [[Raiders (RDM)|Raiders]], Cylon War-Era Raiders
| img=
}}

'''The Colony'''<ref>Jane Espenson referred to this place as "The Colony" in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, and hinted that it is not necessarily a literal colony.</ref> is a large biomechanical structure similar in composition to the [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]]. After the [[Cimtar Peace Accord]], the [[Final Five]] and the [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005]] units retreated to this place, a spaceborne Cylon homeworld ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

==History and Use==

This structure was built around the original ship of the Final Five ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]] podcast). The vessel was used by [[Samuel Anders]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Ellen Tigh]], [[Saul Tigh]], and [[Galen Tyrol]] to travel to the [[Twelve Colonies (RMD)|Twelve Colonies]] from the devastated remains of [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]], backtracking the path their ancestors had taken from [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]] and then following the path of the twelve tribes of humanity. At one point, the ship stopped at the [[Temple of Hopes]].

The expanded structure was "home" to the [[humanoid Cylon|humanoid]] and Centurion Cylons after the war. The eight numbered humanoid models were presumably developed by Anders, Foster, the Tighs, and Tyrol here. Their original [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] equipment is still on the Colony ([[No Exit]]), as is their original sublight starship.

The Colony fell into the hands of the [[Number One]]s/Cavils after they [[Boxing|boxed]] the Final Five. Prior to the [[Cylon Civil War]], Cavil kept the Colony secret ([[No Exit]]). Cavil moved the Colony shortly before the start of the civil war, indicating that the structure is FTL-capable ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]). It is positioned in a stable orbit inside the [[w:accretion disc|accretion disc]] of a [[w:naked singularity|naked singularity]]. ([[Daybreak, Part I]])

The Colony is currently home base for the Ones, [[Number Four|Fours]], [[Number Five|Fives]], and [[Sharon Valerii|Boomer]]. [[Hera Agathon]] has been brought to the Colony for experimentation, to determine what makes her a successful human-Cylon hybrid and replicate it ([[Daybreak, Part I]]). There are both original-model [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raider]]s, mechanical fighter craft which are intended to piloted, and the newer autonomous Raider models inside the Colony ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

==Speculation and Questions==

::Since the colony is in a close orbit with a black hole, how are the colonies biological components affected by the massive amount of radiation put out by it?

::When the colony was shown in one scene in [[Daybreak, Part I]], it appeared to be anchored to an asteroid. What function does this serve.

::Although the colony must have had obsolete technology and served no purpose but to be a storage facility for the final fives' lab, why was the colony moved at the beginning of the [[Cylon Civil War]]?

== Notes ==
{{sourcebox|Cylon homeworld}}
*When Ron D. Moore was questioned why the "Cylon POV episode", "[[Downloaded]]", took place on Cylon-occupied Caprica instead of the Cylon homeworld in an interview with [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3206/2/ Now Playing Magazine] on February 23, 2006, he stated that the series will probably not show that planet any time in the forseeable future, explaining that:

::"That episode ("Downloaded") will not have that, and we still don’t have any plans to do that...My instinct is kind of not to go there. I feel like I don’t have a great clear vision of it; at this point if we tried to do something there it would look very familiar and not as interesting as it is in your imagination."

:Moore goes on to say that he felt it was more exciting when left to the imagination, because "It still has to be a place where bipedal creatures can walk around and do things": Presumably, it has to be able to support the humanoid Cylons, who are near-human enough that their home environment would be fairly similar to a human one, and not drastically exotic.

*In the podcast for ''Islanded in a Stream of Stars'' Moore states that originally the writers had an idea that the Cylons had a homeworld they informally called 'Cylonia' but, for the reasons mentioned above, they decided not to visit it. The notion for the Colony as the Cylon homeworld instead came up during the writing of Season 4.

== Related Imagery ==

<gallery>
Image:Cylon World-Ship (Interior).jpg|Older-model Raiders within the Colony ([[Islanded In A Stream Of Stars]]).
</gallery>

== References ==
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[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Cylon Military]]
[[Category:Cylon Military (RDM)]]
[[Category:Descriptive terms]]
[[Category:RDM]]

The Colony

2009-03-15T23:45:42Z

Acaeton: /* History and Use */

{{Ship Data
| image=Cylon World-Ship (The Colony).jpg
| title= The Colony
| race= [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]]
| type= Military
| ftl= Yes
| crew= [[Humanoid Cylon]]s, [[Cylon Centurion]]s
| role= Cylon Homeworld
| weapons= [[Raiders (RDM)|Raiders]], Cylon War-Era Raiders
| img=
}}

'''The Colony'''<ref>Jane Espenson referred to this place as "The Colony" in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, and hinted that it is not necessarily a literal colony.</ref> is a large biomechanical structure similar in composition to the [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]]. After the [[Cimtar Peace Accord|armistice]], the [[Final Five]] and the [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] retreated to this place, a spaceborne Cylon colony ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

It is also the place where [[Ellen Tigh]] supposedly stored her [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] research equipment ([[No Exit]]).

Prior to the [[Cylon Civil War]], Cavil kept the Colony secret ([[No Exit]]). Cavil moved the Colony shortly before the start of the civil war, indicating that the structure is FTL-capable ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]). It is positioned in a stable orbit inside the [[w:accretion disc|accretion disc]] of a [[w:naked singularity|naked singularity]]. ([[Daybreak, Part I]]).

==History and Use==

The colony was used by [[Ellen Tigh]] and the rest of the Final five to travel from Earth to the colonies in hopes of preventing another nuclear holocaust like the one that they escaped from on earth. When the final five traveled in the colony, the colony was not FTL capable and was only equipped with relativistic sublight engines. Because the colony was traveling slower than light, the journey took about 2,200 years to complete, but because of the relativistic speed the time that passed for the inhabitants of the colony was only a few years. When the final five reached the 12 colonies the Cylons and humans were already fighting each other. In order to stop the fighting, the final five agreed to give the Cylons resurrection technology, and so the war was stopped. The colony was set down on the surface of an unknown planet and the final five worked for over 20 years on making the first humanoid Cylons inside the colony. The Cylons then overthrew the final five, gave them false memories, and placed them in the 12 colonies to live like normal humans. In the interim between the attacks on the colonies the cylons outfitted the colony with an FTL drive, as it was FTL capable as of [[No Exit]]. After the attack on the 12 colonies the colony remained on the unknown planets surface because there was no use for it except as a repository for the final fives resurrection laboratory and equipment. However, the colony was moved off the planets surface when the Cylon Civil War started. The Colony was moved into a close orbit with a black hole and is currently being used by Cavil and the Cylons to try and find a way that the Cylon race can reproduce or resurrect.

Apparently the colony was rarely thought of and might have been moved as a last resort, as it had outlived its usefulness by the attack on the 12 colonies and was still staffed by old Cylon raiders.

== Notes ==
{{sourcebox|Cylon homeworld}}
*When Ron D. Moore was questioned why the "Cylon POV episode", "[[Downloaded]]", took place on Cylon-occupied Caprica instead of the Cylon homeworld in an interview with [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3206/2/ Now Playing Magazine] on February 23, 2006, he stated that the series will probably not show that planet any time in the forseeable future, explaining that:

::"That episode ("Downloaded") will not have that, and we still don’t have any plans to do that...My instinct is kind of not to go there. I feel like I don’t have a great clear vision of it; at this point if we tried to do something there it would look very familiar and not as interesting as it is in your imagination."

:Moore goes on to say that he felt it was more exciting when left to the imagination, because "It still has to be a place where bipedal creatures can walk around and do things": Presumably, it has to be able to support the humanoid Cylons, who are near-human enough that their home environment would be fairly similar to a human one, and not drastically exotic.

== Related Imagery ==

<gallery>
Image:Cylon World-Ship (Interior).jpg|Older-model Raiders within the Colony ([[Islanded In A Stream Of Stars]]).
</gallery>

== References ==
<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>

[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Cylon Military]]
[[Category:Cylon Military (RDM)]]
[[Category:Descriptive terms]]
[[Category:RDM]]

The Colony

2009-03-15T23:43:19Z

Acaeton:

{{Ship Data
| image=Cylon World-Ship (The Colony).jpg
| title= The Colony
| race= [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylon]]
| type= Military
| ftl= Yes
| crew= [[Humanoid Cylon]]s, [[Cylon Centurion]]s
| role= Cylon Homeworld
| weapons= [[Raiders (RDM)|Raiders]], Cylon War-Era Raiders
| img=
}}

'''The Colony'''<ref>Jane Espenson referred to this place as "The Colony" in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, and hinted that it is not necessarily a literal colony.</ref> is a large biomechanical structure similar in composition to the [[Basestar (RDM)|Basestars]]. After the [[Cimtar Peace Accord|armistice]], the [[Final Five]] and the [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Centurions]] retreated to this place, a spaceborne Cylon colony ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]).

It is also the place where [[Ellen Tigh]] supposedly stored her [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] research equipment ([[No Exit]]).

Prior to the [[Cylon Civil War]], Cavil kept the Colony secret ([[No Exit]]). Cavil moved the Colony shortly before the start of the civil war, indicating that the structure is FTL-capable ([[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]). It is positioned in a stable orbit inside the [[w:accretion disc|accretion disc]] of a [[w:naked singularity|naked singularity]]. ([[Daybreak, Part I]]).

==History and Use==

The colony was used by [[Ellen Tigh]] and the rest of the Final five to travel from Earth to the colonies in hopes of preventing another nuclear holocaust like the one that they escaped from on earth. When the final five traveled in the colony, the colony was not FTL capable and was only equipped with relativistic sublight engines. Because the colony was traveling slower than light, the journey took about 2,200 years to complete, but because of the relativistic speed the time that passed for the inhabitants of the colony was only a few years. When the final five reached the 12 colonies the Cylons and humans were already fighting each other. In order to stop the fighting, the final five agreed to give the Cylons resurrection technology, and so the war was stopped. The colony was set down on the surface of an unknown planet and the final five worked for over 20 years on making the first humanoid Cylons inside the colony. The Cylons then overthrew the final five, gave them false memories, and placed them in the 12 colonies to live like normal humans. In the interim between the attacks on the colonies the cylons outfitted the colony with an FTL drive, as it was FTL capable as of [[No Exit]]. After the attack on the 12 colonies the colony remained on the unknown planets surface because there was no use for it except as a repository for the final fives resurrection laboratory and equipment. However, the colony was moved off the planets surface when the Cylon Civil War started. The Colony was moved into a close orbit with a black hole and is currently being used by Cavil and the Cylons to try and find a way that the Cylon race can reproduce or resurrect.
== Notes ==
{{sourcebox|Cylon homeworld}}
*When Ron D. Moore was questioned why the "Cylon POV episode", "[[Downloaded]]", took place on Cylon-occupied Caprica instead of the Cylon homeworld in an interview with [http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3206/2/ Now Playing Magazine] on February 23, 2006, he stated that the series will probably not show that planet any time in the forseeable future, explaining that:

::"That episode ("Downloaded") will not have that, and we still don’t have any plans to do that...My instinct is kind of not to go there. I feel like I don’t have a great clear vision of it; at this point if we tried to do something there it would look very familiar and not as interesting as it is in your imagination."

:Moore goes on to say that he felt it was more exciting when left to the imagination, because "It still has to be a place where bipedal creatures can walk around and do things": Presumably, it has to be able to support the humanoid Cylons, who are near-human enough that their home environment would be fairly similar to a human one, and not drastically exotic.

== Related Imagery ==

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Image:Cylon World-Ship (Interior).jpg|Older-model Raiders within the Colony ([[Islanded In A Stream Of Stars]]).
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