Talk:Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)/Archive 1

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Was there ever actually a thirteenth tribe?

I believe the existence of the thirteenth tribe is unfounded speculation. Now how can I say this when it is regularly referred to in the show? The show does not show a thirteenth tribe. Rather it shows people who talk about an ancient legend of a thirteenth tribe. I made some minor edits in the past to try to make it more ambiguous but the truth is this article still describes the thirteenth tribe as though it is a real tribe seen in the show, and it isn't. It's a myth from the scrolls, which may or may not turn out to be real.

As most fans know, there is much controversy over whether Earth was colonized by Kobol's thirteenth tribe as the scrolls say, or Kobol was colonized by Earth. I don't want to try to resolve or speculate on that controversy in the main page, though I certainly have my own arguments, which I believe are fairly convincing. I believe that this article, and a few related ones, currently speculate on the controversy, but in the "trust the myths" direction. There are hints scattered through the articles about the uncertainty regarding the legend, I would like to consolidate it, perhaps by gathering the material from the scrolls in a section marked "As told in the sacred scrolls" with another section for relevant notes and facts outside the scrolls from canon/etc.--Bradtem 03:22, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

The article says "according to Elosha", "according to the Scriptures" or "apparently" pretty much every time. That's enough for me. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 08:26, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Athena's Death

This article says that Athena killed herself, her death is an assumption since all that we know is what Boomer tells us...

Boomer: I'm putting together a lot of pieces from a lot of sources beyond your scriptures. If I'm right, that's the spot where your god supposedly stood and watched Athena throw herself down o­nto the rocks below out of despair over the exodus of the 13 tribes.

It doesn't say that she died.--Swozie 11:36, 7 January 2008 (CST)

Then just add the "supposedly" in the text and all is good (I'll do so, but I think the entry paragraph also needs to be changed, and am currently thinking about that). Something like "reportedly" or "allegedly" also works will with things that are told second-hand :) --Serenity 11:39, 7 January 2008 (CST)
I'm pretty sure "threw herself to the rocks" does mean death, y'know. OTW
Yeah. Depends on if he takes issue with the wording (which is clear though), or that it's just scriptures that might not be true. --Serenity 12:07, 7 January 2008 (CST)

The Eye of Jupiter

This article states that "The Eye of Jupiter is, in fact, the image created by the planet's dying sun"

In fact the Eye Of Jupiter is the emblem on the floor of the Temple on which D'Anna stood.

[Chip Six appears, indicating the obvious Eye symbol o­n the floor.] Chip Six: There it is, Gaius. It has the answers to all of your questions. Baltar: That's the Eye? --Swozie 11:36, 7 January 2008 (CST)