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# Also, some have commented on how bad the built-in search feature is. I've commented on this in the past as well, so we're probably going to use Google, until the MediaWiki people know how to develop a better built-in search feature.
# Also, some have commented on how bad the built-in search feature is. I've commented on this in the past as well, so we're probably going to use Google, until the MediaWiki people know how to develop a better built-in search feature.


===Comments===
There's a lot here so far, with over 40 responses in just the last day... So digest, discuss, and maybe do a [[BW:TANK|think tank]] or three. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:54, 19 February 2008 (CST)
There's a lot here so far, with over 40 responses in just the last day... So digest, discuss, and maybe do a [[BW:TANK|think tank]] or three. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:54, 19 February 2008 (CST)
:You mean unregistered users can't read talk pages? Why would we want that? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:58, 19 February 2008 (CST)
:You mean unregistered users can't read talk pages? Why would we want that? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:58, 19 February 2008 (CST)
:: The mindset was that people only came here for information, and people didn't want to see the behind-the-scenes talk... Obviously, that isn't the case. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:03, 19 February 2008 (CST)
:: The mindset was that people only came here for information, and people didn't want to see the behind-the-scenes talk... Obviously, that isn't the case. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:03, 19 February 2008 (CST)
 
:::That one was actually bugging me too. When you came in on a talk page, there'd be no "article" link either. It's good to have the context of both available, even if you're just reading. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:59, 19 February 2008 (CST)
:1.) As said, the unfortunate lack of character analysis has been noted already. It's been rectified with one or two articles, but overall it's kind of a mess. Kinda sad, that with a series so heavily focused on character interaction, people felt the need to rehash the story and focus on trivial tech nonsense instead. In hindsight, this should have been different from the beginning, but now we are somewhat stuck with it.
:1.) As said, the unfortunate lack of character analysis has been noted already. It's been rectified with one or two articles, but overall it's kind of a mess. Kinda sad, that with a series so heavily focused on character interaction, people felt the need to rehash the story and focus on trivial tech nonsense instead. In hindsight, this should have been different from the beginning, but now we are somewhat stuck with it.
:2.) I agree on the search function. It has bugged me too in that it often doesn't find what you look for unless the article already exists.
:2.) I agree on the search function. It has bugged me too in that it often doesn't find what you look for unless the article already exists.

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Sheppard in the Miniseries[edit]

I received an e-mail from Kevin Grazier today, noting a few corrections and observations on the Wiki. One of those corrections was regarding Sheppard, particularly noting that he appears (somewhere) in the Miniseries. So if any of you guys get the chance and want to watch the Miniseries again, could you please be on the lookout for any references to Shep? Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 14:31, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Interesting. He might be one of the background pilots or mentioned somewhere in the wireless chatter. That will be hard to pinpoint though. -- Serenity 14:58, 5 February 2008 (CST)
Hmm, somehow that seems familiar but I can't place how I know that. What else did he say?-- OrionFour 16:22, 5 February 2008 (CST)
He noted that the name "Stepchild" in Kara's speech was written as "Steptoe" in the script. Other than that, he mentioned to me that he was writing up an article for his tech blog and was using the Wiki to do some research, which is what prompted him to send me corrections and his few notes in the first place. :) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 16:31, 5 February 2008 (CST)
Coolness. He's noted a few technical errors in some articles that I've yet to correct...gotta get to his tech blog for the specifics. <geekmode> Glee!!! </geekmode> --Spencerian 15:03, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Thanks to the SPACE network[edit]

I just wanted to give thanks to the SPACE network for providing me with a list of all of their airdates for the entire series!-- OrionFour 01:29, 8 February 2008 (CST)

User:Zini and User:Zinistuff[edit]

How do we handle this? --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 08:51, 11 February 2008 (CST)

We've seen this before. It's a low-level item that Joe should be able to intercept. The user has been contacted to choose an account, but there was the matter of ensuring that users couldn't make such accounts. Joe should know. --Spencerian 17:00, 11 February 2008 (CST)
I thought we disabled this option... guess we have to re-take a look at the LocalSettings.php file :P Shane (T - C - E) 00:36, 12 February 2008 (CST)
Fact is, you can't disable this through the regular $wgGroupPermissions interface: everyone, even logged-in users, are in the implicit * group and will therefore be able to create accounts (because $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = true;). There is this, which requires memcached (which is probably why we didn't use it before; Joe's set up memcached about a week ago). I couldn't find anything in the MediaWiki docs directly disabling account creation by registered users; it should be noted, though, that it would be easy to circumvent such a restriction by simply logging out. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 08:39, 12 February 2008 (CST)

Last Supper[edit]

On this page http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Season_4_%282008%29 in the last point under GENERAL it reads ....

"In an Entertainment Weekly interview, Ron Moore reveals who is not the fifth Cylon. According to the article, neither William Adama, Lee Adama, Laura Roslin, Kara Thrace, Karl Agathon, nor Gaius Baltar is the fifth Cylon. However, this is discredited by Aaron Douglas (Galen Tyrol), see The Last Supper for more information."

Could you please reword the above because it makes it sound like Aaron Douglas is disagreeing with Ron that the fifth Cylon is not in the photo. Aaron said no such thing. Aaron was asked if there was any hidden meaning to the photo (because fans were mirroring the image and trying to find clues in the altered image). Aaron discredited the mirroring of the image, not what Ron said. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meshel73 (talk • contribs).

I've fixed it. Let me know if it's up to snuff. :) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 15:04, 17 February 2008 (CST)

Magazines[edit]

Since we have an article on Playboy Magazine, February 2007, I was wondering if other magazines with a BSG focus would have any merit? I.e. certain issues of Starlog, Sci Fi Magazine, &c. DrWho42 20:13, 17 February 2008 (CST)

I wouldn't be averse to an article on a list of BSG's magazine appearances, but to do an article on each would be overkill, I think. On the other hand, if there is a serious BSG focus or theme to a magazine, then we can do an article per magazine issue. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 03:47, 18 February 2008 (CST)

Dismissable site notice[edit]

I noticed someone installed the DismissableSitenotice extension recently, which means logged-in users will see a [dismiss] link next to the site notice and you won't see the site notice again until someone changes it. Note that this means anyone editing the site notice must increment the number at MediaWiki:Sitenotice id (empty at the time of writing, should be created and set to 1 after the next edit to the site notice). I thought I should announce this at the Chiefs' noticeboard, since only Chiefs can edit the site notice and should be aware of the new protocol (incrementing the sitenotice ID). --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 13:45, 18 February 2008 (CST)

I plead the fifth. :) It was not me this time. :) Shane (T - C - E) 13:50, 18 February 2008 (CST)
Okie-dokie! --Spencerian 15:59, 18 February 2008 (CST)
Yeah, I planned on doing that anyway. :P -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 08:25, 19 February 2008 (CST)

Initial survey responses[edit]

So far, I've been amazed at the initial responses to the survey. I've been receiving some excellent feedback, which is what I'm looking for, really. Here are some initial trends I'm seeing:

  1. We have an audience that's focused on the Re-imagined Series. (No surprise there, really, since that is on everyone's minds right now!)
  2. People don't really look to us for merchandise information. There's a definite focus on the episodes, characters, behind-the-scenes, battles, tech, and ships.

Things we need to improve upon...

High importance[edit]

  1. We need to have multiple versions of the current skin. There's no way around it. Some people have talked about the colors being too dark, so lighter colors would work.
  2. Also, there's a need to allow non-contributors to submit corrections as well.
  3. Unregistered (or not logged in) users also want to be able to read the talk pages again, which is an easy fix. But they want that option.
  4. People also want easier navigation, which means we're going to have to retool the sidebar in order to achieve it. Fortunately, I've had this in mind for a while now, and we can probably integrate the portal links into the sidebar for greater effect and usability.
    1. Some have also commented about the placement of the search bar.
  5. People want to know how to contribute information or use the website. We need help documentation on how to effectively use the website, since we are an immense resource... immense enough where some people tend to get lost, it seems like, and are unable to extricate themselves from that.

Important, but long term development stuff[edit]

  1. There are people wanting to have more analysis on characters. Some of them have noted that many of the character articles rehash plot points, which is an issue some of us behind-the-scenes have brought up time and time again as well.
  2. There are people wanting more behind-the-scenes information.

Mid-level importance[edit]

  1. Also, some have commented on how bad the built-in search feature is. I've commented on this in the past as well, so we're probably going to use Google, until the MediaWiki people know how to develop a better built-in search feature.

Comments[edit]

There's a lot here so far, with over 40 responses in just the last day... So digest, discuss, and maybe do a think tank or three. :) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 08:54, 19 February 2008 (CST)

You mean unregistered users can't read talk pages? Why would we want that? --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 08:58, 19 February 2008 (CST)
The mindset was that people only came here for information, and people didn't want to see the behind-the-scenes talk... Obviously, that isn't the case. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 09:03, 19 February 2008 (CST)
That one was actually bugging me too. When you came in on a talk page, there'd be no "article" link either. It's good to have the context of both available, even if you're just reading. --Steelviper 09:59, 19 February 2008 (CST)
1.) As said, the unfortunate lack of character analysis has been noted already. It's been rectified with one or two articles, but overall it's kind of a mess. Kinda sad, that with a series so heavily focused on character interaction, people felt the need to rehash the story and focus on trivial tech nonsense instead. In hindsight, this should have been different from the beginning, but now we are somewhat stuck with it.
2.) I agree on the search function. It has bugged me too in that it often doesn't find what you look for unless the article already exists.
3.) Not sure on behind-the-scenes information. We aren't a news site and can't be one. We do have some behind-the-scenes information on the show and the people working on it, and it could be extended I guess, but if people expect articles on the newest going-ons that probably won't happen. -- Serenity 09:10, 19 February 2008 (CST)
For the search thing we could try the LuceneSearch extension which is also used by Wikipedia and friends. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 09:15, 19 February 2008 (CST)
Well, I'm turned off by the memory usage on the sucker... Plus it's just better for us to go Google anyway, that way we won't impact the performance of both servers. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 09:31, 19 February 2008 (CST)
As for the skin (aka my department) I take full responsibility for that. I carried the colors over from the BsgBook type and I guess massed up, it doesn't sit right. Myself and Joe already talked about using the colors from the blog, in the same design look. Navbar, no problem. Rehashing that is easy. As far as the search bar, there is only so many places for it to go. I can add a second one before the bottom bar. I think we need to really focus on BW:TUT which is pretty much established. Make it stand out and also expand the To-Do topics a bit more. Maybe we can get the Help preview filled. I've never really like merchandise information on the front page, but we should still create articles about it and use our referral links to gather some sort of income for server costs, etc. Maybe it's time to open up the flood gates to unregiested users being able to edit. we would for sure have to setup the BW:VANDL patrol and change the "trusted" group to have patrol permissions. That's about it from me. :) Shane (T - C - E) 09:42, 19 February 2008 (CST)