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	[[~~Image~~:ViperMk7Avionics.jpg\|left\|thumb\|200px\|Mark VII main instrument panel]]		[[File:ViperMk7Avionics.jpg\|left\|thumb\|200px\|Mark VII main instrument panel]]
	The Mark VII cockpit is almost totally computerized. There are far fewer analog gauges and more reliance is placed on a powerful central flight computer. This gives the Mark VII pilot far greater control of the fighter as well as, presumably, greater targeting control in a dogfight.		The Mark VII cockpit is almost totally computerized. There are far fewer analog gauges and more reliance is placed on a powerful central flight computer. This gives the Mark VII pilot far greater control of the fighter as well as, presumably, greater targeting control in a dogfight.

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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	* Since ''Galactica'' had only 40 Viper Mark IIs aboard as part of its museum, they needed as many fighters as possible. The remaining Mark VII's advanced computer systems were refitted to resist Cylon infiltration. However, since this is not how the Mark VII was designed to fly, the craft is increasingly more difficult to handle and can only be flown by the most experienced pilots such as [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] and ~~[[Kara Thrace~~\|Starbuck]]. ''Galactica'' had roughly 6-8 Mark VIIs on board after the Cylon attack ("[[Scattered]]", "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]") <ref>Information previously available on the [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar SciFi] website.</ref>. Since the Vipers aboard ''Pegasus'' were predominantly Mark VIIs, these too were presumably retrofitted to less vulnerable avionics.		* Since ''Galactica'' had only 40 Viper Mark IIs aboard as part of its museum, they needed as many fighters as possible. The remaining Mark VII's advanced computer systems were refitted to resist Cylon infiltration. However, since this is not how the Mark VII was designed to fly, the craft is increasingly more difficult to handle and can only be flown by the most experienced pilots such as [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] and {{callsign\|Starbuck}}. ''Galactica'' had roughly 6-8 Mark VIIs on board after the Cylon attack ("[[Scattered]]", "[[Flight of the Phoenix]]") <ref>Information previously available on the [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar SciFi] website.</ref>. Since the Vipers aboard ''Pegasus'' were predominantly Mark VIIs, these too were presumably retrofitted to less vulnerable avionics.
	* According to [[David Weddle]] during the [[Podcast:Scar#Act 2\|"Scar" podcast]] the Mark VII cockpit design "was actually laid out based on, I think it's either the [[w:F-16 Fighting Falcon\|F-16]] or the [[w:F/A-18 Hornet\|F-18]]." The side-mounted control stick more closely resembles that of the F-16, which is appropriate given the "Viper" nickname of the jet (that was initially the General Dynamics codename for the project, which was in turn named for the [[Viper (TOS)\|TOS Viper]]).		* According to [[David Weddle]] during the [[Podcast:Scar#Act 2\|"Scar" podcast]] the Mark VII cockpit design "was actually laid out based on, I think it's either the [[w:F-16 Fighting Falcon\|F-16]] or the [[w:F/A-18 Hornet\|F-18]]." The side-mounted control stick more closely resembles that of the F-16, which is appropriate given the "Viper" nickname of the jet (that was initially the General Dynamics codename for the project, which was in turn named for the [[Viper (TOS)\|TOS Viper]]).
	*Also revealed in the podcast for "Scar" is that the full cockpit interior for the Viper Mark VII was built for this episode. "Flight of the Phoenix" had paved the way for the construction of the full cockpit when "the line producers and the production designers figure[d] out ways to move money around that basically bought us this cockpit because we had built the [[Blackbird\|stealth fighter]]." The cockpit interior may have been constructed at the same time the Blackbird was being built.		*Also revealed in the podcast for "Scar" is that the full cockpit interior for the Viper Mark VII was built for this episode. "Flight of the Phoenix" had paved the way for the construction of the full cockpit when "the line producers and the production designers figure[d] out ways to move money around that basically bought us this cockpit because we had built the [[Blackbird\|stealth fighter]]." The cockpit interior may have been constructed at the same time the Blackbird was being built.

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	The Mark VII cockpit is almost totally computerized. There are far fewer analog gauges and more reliance is placed on a powerful central flight computer. This gives the Mark VII pilot far greater control of the fighter as well as, presumably, greater targeting control in a dogfight.		The Mark VII cockpit is almost totally computerized. There are far fewer analog gauges and more reliance is placed on a powerful central flight computer. This gives the Mark VII pilot far greater control of the fighter as well as, presumably, greater targeting control in a dogfight.

	However, the latest and last software upgrade, the [[CNP]] upgrade, introduces a fatal flaw (inserted by a [[Caprica Six\|Cylon agent]]) in the Mark VII that leads to the virtual annihilation of most of these fighters in the opening wave of the Cylon attack.		However, the latest and last software upgrade, the [[CNP]] upgrade, introduces a fatal flaw (inserted by a [[Caprica-Six\|Cylon agent]]) in the Mark VII that leads to the virtual annihilation of most of these fighters in the opening wave of the Cylon attack.

	The surviving Mark VII fighters on both ''[[Galactica (RDM)\|Galactica]]'' and ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]'' are retrofitted to older avionics packages to replace the compromised CNP and eliminate further infiltration.		The surviving Mark VII fighters on both ''[[Galactica (RDM)\|Galactica]]'' and ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]'' are retrofitted to older avionics packages to replace the compromised CNP and eliminate further infiltration.

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	*According to ''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]'', when creating the design of the Viper Mark VII, [[Gary Hutzel]] took a pre-existing design from the [[Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)\|2003 video game]] loosely based on a mix of the Original Series and upcoming [[Miniseries]], then "did some modifications, and that became the Viper Mark VII".		*According to ''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]'', when creating the design of the Viper Mark VII, [[Gary Hutzel]] took a pre-existing design from the [[Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)\|2003 video game]] loosely based on a mix of the Original Series and upcoming [[Miniseries]], then "did some modifications, and that became the Viper Mark VII".
	*As of "[[Maelstrom]]", [[:image:Viper Mk VII Retcon Profile.jpg\|a new exterior design]] for the Viper Mk VII is being used. It is characterized by angular air intakes - with three intakes on the ventral side as opposed to the original's single intake - and a compressed forward fuselage with chines extending only partway to the nose. Additionally, the new version possesses a drab gray hue that differs from the original's gunmetal-gray coloration. Due to the fact that all Mark VII fighters seen since "Maelstrom" display the later appearance, it was surmised that this was a [[retroactive continuity\|retroactive update]] rather than a variant of an existing ship.		*As of "[[Maelstrom]]", [[:image:Viper Mk VII Retcon Profile.jpg\|a new exterior design]] for the Viper Mk VII is being used. It is characterized by angular air intakes - with three intakes on the ventral side as opposed to the original's single intake - and a compressed forward fuselage with chines extending only partway to the nose. Additionally, the new version possesses a drab gray hue that differs from the original's gunmetal-gray coloration. Due to the fact that all Mark VII fighters seen since "Maelstrom" display the later appearance, it was surmised that this was a [[retroactive continuity\|retroactive update]] rather than a variant of an existing ship.
	**However, [[:image:Retconned Viper Mk VII and original version on screen together.jpg\|this shot]] taken from "[[Razor]]" displays both variants in action. Starbuck's Viper (in the foreground) is of the redesigned variant, while [[Showboat]]'s Viper (in the back) is the original version - characterized by gunmetal-gray armoring and the sleek forward fuselage. Taking this visual into account, it may be alternatively concluded that these are two versions of Viper (with the newer design perhaps being a product of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]''{{'\|s}} Viper production facilities). Accepting this conclusion would partly explain why the Mk VIIs present on ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} hangar deck bear the original appearance while those seen in action do not - there would no longer be a design conflict between the physical model and the CGI version of the craft. However, for sequences where an actor climbs into the physical model but is subsequently seen flying the new version (as it happens in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" and "[[He That Believeth In Me]]" for example) the discrepancy is still present, although these shots show only the cockpit of the Vipers making this less obvious. In Razor and Season 4 both designs do appear onscreen although seldom together. However much of the confusion stems from all of the close up shots being of the Maelstorm design with the original design appearing in many the far out shots.		**However, [[:image:Retconned Viper Mk VII and original version on screen together.jpg\|this shot]] taken from "[[Razor]]" displays both variants in action. Starbuck's Viper (in the foreground) is of the redesigned variant, while [[Showboat]]'s Viper (in the back) is the original version - characterized by gunmetal-gray armoring and the sleek forward fuselage. Taking this visual into account, it may be alternatively concluded that these are two versions of Viper (with the newer design perhaps being a product of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]''{{'\|s}} Viper production facilities). Accepting this conclusion would partly explain why the Mk VIIs present on ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} hangar deck bear the original appearance while those seen in action do not - there would no longer be a design conflict between the physical model and the CGI version of the craft. However, for sequences where an actor climbs into the physical model but is subsequently seen flying the new version (as it happens in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" and "[[He That Believeth in Me]]" for example) the discrepancy is still present, although these shots show only the cockpit of the Vipers making this less obvious. In Razor and Season 4 both designs do appear onscreen although seldom together. However much of the confusion stems from all of the close up shots being of the Maelstorm design with the original design appearing in many the far out shots.
	**According to Doug Drexler, "The model was rebuilt by master modeler Pierre Drollet (sic) at Gary’s request. After all the episodes we had done, we learned all of the original models weaknesses, and built it to withstand greater scrutiny, and render more efficiently. Changes were fairly superficial, but improved the lines of the bird." <ref name="Mael">http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/viper-mk-vii-cockpit/#comment-14520</ref>		**According to Doug Drexler, "The model was rebuilt by master modeler Pierre Drollet (sic) at Gary’s request. After all the episodes we had done, we learned all of the original models weaknesses, and built it to withstand greater scrutiny, and render more efficiently. Changes were fairly superficial, but improved the lines of the bird." <ref name="Mael">http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/viper-mk-vii-cockpit/#comment-14520</ref>
	***Overall, between the new engine, cannon, and wing detailing, it can be surmised the update was intended to bring the plane closer to the details of the full-scale prop, which it resembles much more then the detailing in the original CGI model. Only the nose of the full-scale prop was built for the Miniseries, the rest of the plane was built later and very simplified in comparison to the CGI one.		***Overall, between the new engine, cannon, and wing detailing, it can be surmised the update was intended to bring the plane closer to the details of the full-scale prop, which it resembles much more then the detailing in the original CGI model. Only the nose of the full-scale prop was built for the Miniseries, the rest of the plane was built later and very simplified in comparison to the CGI one.

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	The '''Viper Mark VII''' is the [[Colonial Fleet (~~RDM~~)\|Colonial Fleet]]'s latest update to the venerable [[Viper Mark II]] primary space superiority fighter / attack craft.		The '''Viper Mark VII''' is the [[Colonial Fleet (TRS)\|Colonial Fleet]]'s latest update to the venerable [[Viper Mark II]] primary space superiority fighter / attack craft.
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	*According to ''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]'', when creating the design of the Viper Mark VII, [[Gary Hutzel]] took a pre-existing design from the [[Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)\|2003 video game]] loosely based on a mix of the Original Series and upcoming [[Miniseries]], then "did some modifications, and that became the Viper Mark VII".		*According to ''[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]'', when creating the design of the Viper Mark VII, [[Gary Hutzel]] took a pre-existing design from the [[Battlestar Galactica (2003 game)\|2003 video game]] loosely based on a mix of the Original Series and upcoming [[Miniseries]], then "did some modifications, and that became the Viper Mark VII".
	*As of "[[Maelstrom]]", [[:image:Viper Mk VII Retcon Profile.jpg\|a new exterior design]] for the Viper Mk VII is being used. It is characterized by angular air intakes - with three intakes on the ventral side as opposed to the original's single intake - and a compressed forward fuselage with chines extending only partway to the nose. Additionally, the new version possesses a drab gray hue that differs from the original's gunmetal-gray coloration. Due to the fact that all Mark VII fighters seen since "Maelstrom" display the later appearance, it was surmised that this was a [[retroactive continuity\|retroactive update]] rather than a variant of an existing ship.		*As of "[[Maelstrom]]", [[:image:Viper Mk VII Retcon Profile.jpg\|a new exterior design]] for the Viper Mk VII is being used. It is characterized by angular air intakes - with three intakes on the ventral side as opposed to the original's single intake - and a compressed forward fuselage with chines extending only partway to the nose. Additionally, the new version possesses a drab gray hue that differs from the original's gunmetal-gray coloration. Due to the fact that all Mark VII fighters seen since "Maelstrom" display the later appearance, it was surmised that this was a [[retroactive continuity\|retroactive update]] rather than a variant of an existing ship.
	**However, [[:image:Retconned Viper Mk VII and original version on screen together.jpg\|this shot]] taken from "[[Razor]]" displays both variants in action. Starbuck's Viper (in the foreground) is of the redesigned variant, while [[Showboat]]'s Viper (in the back) is the original version - characterized by gunmetal-gray armoring and the sleek forward fuselage. Taking this visual into account, it may be alternatively concluded that these are two versions of Viper (with the newer design perhaps being a product of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]''~~<nowiki>~~'~~</nowiki>~~s Viper production facilities). Accepting this conclusion would partly explain why the Mk VIIs present on ''Galactica''~~<nowiki>~~'~~</nowiki>~~s hangar deck bear the original appearance while those seen in action do not - there would no longer be a design conflict between the physical model and the CGI version of the craft. However, for sequences where an actor climbs into the physical model but is subsequently seen flying the new version (as it happens in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" and "[[He That Believeth In Me]]" for example) the discrepancy is still present, although these shots show only the cockpit of the Vipers making this less obvious. In Razor and Season 4 both designs do appear onscreen although seldom together. However much of the confusion stems from all of the close up shots being of the Maelstorm design with the original design appearing in many the far out shots.		**However, [[:image:Retconned Viper Mk VII and original version on screen together.jpg\|this shot]] taken from "[[Razor]]" displays both variants in action. Starbuck's Viper (in the foreground) is of the redesigned variant, while [[Showboat]]'s Viper (in the back) is the original version - characterized by gunmetal-gray armoring and the sleek forward fuselage. Taking this visual into account, it may be alternatively concluded that these are two versions of Viper (with the newer design perhaps being a product of ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]''{{'\|s}} Viper production facilities). Accepting this conclusion would partly explain why the Mk VIIs present on ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} hangar deck bear the original appearance while those seen in action do not - there would no longer be a design conflict between the physical model and the CGI version of the craft. However, for sequences where an actor climbs into the physical model but is subsequently seen flying the new version (as it happens in "[[Crossroads, Part II]]" and "[[He That Believeth In Me]]" for example) the discrepancy is still present, although these shots show only the cockpit of the Vipers making this less obvious. In Razor and Season 4 both designs do appear onscreen although seldom together. However much of the confusion stems from all of the close up shots being of the Maelstorm design with the original design appearing in many the far out shots.
	**According to Doug Drexler, "The model was rebuilt by master modeler Pierre Drollet (sic) at Gary’s request. After all the episodes we had done, we learned all of the original models weaknesses, and built it to withstand greater scrutiny, and render more efficiently. Changes were fairly superficial, but improved the lines of the bird." <ref name="Mael">http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/viper-mk-vii-cockpit/#comment-14520</ref>		**According to Doug Drexler, "The model was rebuilt by master modeler Pierre Drollet (sic) at Gary’s request. After all the episodes we had done, we learned all of the original models weaknesses, and built it to withstand greater scrutiny, and render more efficiently. Changes were fairly superficial, but improved the lines of the bird." <ref name="Mael">http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/viper-mk-vii-cockpit/#comment-14520</ref>
	***Overall, between the new engine, cannon, and wing detailing, it can be surmised the update was intended to bring the plane closer to the details of the full-scale prop, which it resembles much more then the detailing in the original CGI model. Only the nose of the full-scale prop was built for the Miniseries, the rest of the plane was built later and very simplified in comparison to the CGI one.		***Overall, between the new engine, cannon, and wing detailing, it can be surmised the update was intended to bring the plane closer to the details of the full-scale prop, which it resembles much more then the detailing in the original CGI model. Only the nose of the full-scale prop was built for the Miniseries, the rest of the plane was built later and very simplified in comparison to the CGI one.

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	== Related Images ==		== Related Images ==
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	~~:''~~This article discusses the newer Viper-class fighters seen in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)\|Re-imagined Series]]. For information on the older, generally obsolete Viper Mark II fighter from the same series, see [[Viper Mark II]]. For the Viper used in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Original Series]] and in [[Galactica 1980]], see [[Viper (TOS)]].''		{{disline\|This article discusses the newer Viper-class fighters seen in the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)\|Re-imagined Series]]. For information on the older, generally obsolete Viper Mark II fighter from the same series, see [[Viper Mark II]]. For the Viper used in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Original Series]] and in [[Galactica 1980]], see [[Viper (TOS)]].}}

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	== Other design features ==		== Other design features ==

	The Viper Mark VII has primary and secondary hydraulics, the secondary system presumably acting as a redundant backup for mission-critical prime system. Damage to both systems does not significantly compromise the Viper's performance as a space combat craft, provided the pilot is sufficiently skilled to manage the changed flight characteristics ~~([[~~Scar~~]])~~. The consequences of the loss of both systems in atmospheric flight would undoubtedly be far more dire.		The Viper Mark VII has primary and secondary hydraulics, the secondary system presumably acting as a redundant backup for mission-critical prime system. Damage to both systems does not significantly compromise the Viper's performance as a space combat craft, provided the pilot is sufficiently skilled to manage the changed flight characteristics {{TRS\|Scar}}. The consequences of the loss of both systems in atmospheric flight would undoubtedly be far more dire.

	==Known Viper Mark VIIs==		==Known Viper Mark VIIs==