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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* The Original Series and The New Series */ add statement

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	:::::Sure, there are many news sites that only cover TNS. Naturally. But not such a comprehensive source of information as BSWiki. I don't really see where the problem is. You don't ''have'' to read the TOS stuff. For the most part it's kept apart from the TNS material. Some articles link to relevant TOS articles, but again, you are free to ignore that. The most common thing the two shows have for the purpose of Wiki reading, is that some articles have two or more versions for each series, making it necessary to use disambiguation pages. And when writing articles you need to pay attention to link to the correct ones. Like to [[Kobol (RDM)]] instead of just [[Kobol]]. That's all.		:::::Sure, there are many news sites that only cover TNS. Naturally. But not such a comprehensive source of information as BSWiki. I don't really see where the problem is. You don't ''have'' to read the TOS stuff. For the most part it's kept apart from the TNS material. Some articles link to relevant TOS articles, but again, you are free to ignore that. The most common thing the two shows have for the purpose of Wiki reading, is that some articles have two or more versions for each series, making it necessary to use disambiguation pages. And when writing articles you need to pay attention to link to the correct ones. Like to [[Kobol (RDM)]] instead of just [[Kobol]]. That's all.
	:::::And for the third or fourth time. Please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). That will add your name and a time stamp. Otherwise there is no way to see who says what. Or you can just click on "sign your name" below the edit box. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:05, 17 July 2007 (CDT)		:::::And for the third or fourth time. Please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). That will add your name and a time stamp. Otherwise there is no way to see who says what. Or you can just click on "sign your name" below the edit box. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:05, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
	:::::As Serenity said, the TNS and TOS information on BS Wiki is pretty compartmentalized, meaning that they don't overflow into one another, unless some points of comparison or contrast need to be made. There are many TNS websites out there, but nothing as comprehensive as we have become when it comes to TNS material. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:17, 18 July 2007 (CDT)		:::::As Serenity said, the TNS and TOS information on BS Wiki is pretty compartmentalized, meaning that they don't overflow into one another, unless some points of comparison or contrast need to be made. So, ultimately, what ends up happening is people can choose to read the TNS stuff without ever really having to read the TOS stuff, and vice versa. There are many TNS websites out there, but nothing as comprehensive as we have become when it comes to TNS material. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:17, 18 July 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* The Original Series and The New Series */ reply

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The Original Series and The New Series: reply

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	:::::Sure, there are many news sites that only cover TNS. Naturally. But not such a comprehensive source of information as BSWiki. I don't really see where the problem is. You don't ''have'' to read the TOS stuff. For the most part it's kept apart from the TNS material. Some articles link to relevant TOS articles, but again, you are free to ignore that. The most common thing the two shows have for the purpose of Wiki reading, is that some articles have two or more versions for each series, making it necessary to use disambiguation pages. And when writing articles you need to pay attention to link to the correct ones. Like to [[Kobol (RDM)]] instead of just [[Kobol]]. That's all.		:::::Sure, there are many news sites that only cover TNS. Naturally. But not such a comprehensive source of information as BSWiki. I don't really see where the problem is. You don't ''have'' to read the TOS stuff. For the most part it's kept apart from the TNS material. Some articles link to relevant TOS articles, but again, you are free to ignore that. The most common thing the two shows have for the purpose of Wiki reading, is that some articles have two or more versions for each series, making it necessary to use disambiguation pages. And when writing articles you need to pay attention to link to the correct ones. Like to [[Kobol (RDM)]] instead of just [[Kobol]]. That's all.
	:::::And for the third or fourth time. Please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). That will add your name and a time stamp. Otherwise there is no way to see who says what. Or you can just click on "sign your name" below the edit box. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:05, 17 July 2007 (CDT)		:::::And for the third or fourth time. Please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). That will add your name and a time stamp. Otherwise there is no way to see who says what. Or you can just click on "sign your name" below the edit box. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:05, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
			:::::As Serenity said, the TNS and TOS information on BS Wiki is pretty compartmentalized, meaning that they don't overflow into one another, unless some points of comparison or contrast need to be made. There are many TNS websites out there, but nothing as comprehensive as we have become when it comes to TNS material. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:17, 18 July 2007 (CDT)

Serenity: Moving stray comment to correct section

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	:Dude, an Uncylopedia version of the wiki? Sweet! --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 18:33, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		:Dude, an Uncylopedia version of the wiki? Sweet! --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 18:33, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
			::Yep. See my note above. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 20:32, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

	== Female Involvement / Relationships ==		== Female Involvement / Relationships ==
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	== Battlestar Alliance ==		== Battlestar Alliance ==

	Yep. See my note above. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 20:32, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		well....I don't really know what the "original series" thing is going with; I mean I started watching for Helo. "Battlestar Alliance?" {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:well....I don't really know what the "original series" thing is going with; I mean I started watching for Helo. "Battlestar Alliance?" {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		:Battlestar Alliance[http://battlestaralliance.com/] is a fandom website...looks like it might be more of what you're looking for. BTW, please use the four tildes (~<!---->~~<!---->~)after your post to automatically sign it. --[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 21:19, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::Battlestar Alliance[http://battlestaralliance.com/] is a fandom website...looks like it might be more of what you're looking for. BTW, please use the four tildes (~<!---->~~<!---->~)after your post to automatically sign it. --[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 21:19, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		::(reading through BA website)....wait I'm kinda new to online and I'm now sure how this works....Joe is the leader of the fandom (through the websites and stuff set up over there)...confused...{{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::(reading through BA website)....wait I'm kinda new to online and I'm now sure how this works....Joe is the leader of the fandom (through the websites and stuff set up over there)...confused...{{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		::A few corrections: I'm not the leader of Battlestar Alliance, we have a leadership team, in addition to a leader which is selected from the leadership team every year. Right now, the leader of our Alliance is Shawn O'Donnell, who is the president of the [http://www.battlestarfanclub.com Battlestar Fan Club]. Also, not all that information (as well as the spit-and-polish) is up yet, because all my editing software is on my laptop, which needs its hard drive repaired. (I'm waiting for DiskWarrior so I can fix the HFS volume on my Mac.) I hope to have the website fully online by Friday or Saturday, depending on whether or not DW will fix my HDD.
	:::A few corrections: I'm not the leader of Battlestar Alliance, we have a leadership team, in addition to a leader which is selected from the leadership team every year. Right now, the leader of our Alliance is Shawn O'Donnell, who is the president of the [http://www.battlestarfanclub.com Battlestar Fan Club]. Also, not all that information (as well as the spit-and-polish) is up yet, because all my editing software is on my laptop, which needs its hard drive repaired. (I'm waiting for DiskWarrior so I can fix the HFS volume on my Mac.) I hope to have the website fully online by Friday or Saturday, depending on whether or not DW will fix my HDD.		::Right now, I'm using my desktop, which basically allows me to send emails and do basic wiki editing. My desktop doesn't have the software I use because I'm presently running Windows XP Media Center Edition and I have software for the Mac PowerBook G4... the desktop is something I mainly use to test out various operating systems and test drive programs I come across, when I have the time -- and the drive -- to do that sort of thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:38, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	:::Right now, I'm using my desktop, which basically allows me to send emails and do basic wiki editing. My desktop doesn't have the software I use because I'm presently running Windows XP Media Center Edition and I have software for the Mac PowerBook G4... the desktop is something I mainly use to test out various operating systems and test drive programs I come across, when I have the time -- and the drive -- to do that sort of thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:38, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		:::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

	== The Original Series and The New Series ==		== The Original Series and The New Series ==

Serenity: /* The Original Series and The New Series */

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	:::Also, shipper fanfic is nothing new to BSG as a whole: there's always been Sheba/Apollo, Cassie/Starbuck, Athena/Starbuck, and Starbuck/Apollo stories well before the new series even came into being. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)		:::Also, shipper fanfic is nothing new to BSG as a whole: there's always been Sheba/Apollo, Cassie/Starbuck, Athena/Starbuck, and Starbuck/Apollo stories well before the new series even came into being. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

	::::....is there a site that just covers stuff about the current series?		::::....is there a site that just covers stuff about the current series? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
			:::::Sure, there are many news sites that only cover TNS. Naturally. But not such a comprehensive source of information as BSWiki. I don't really see where the problem is. You don't ''have'' to read the TOS stuff. For the most part it's kept apart from the TNS material. Some articles link to relevant TOS articles, but again, you are free to ignore that. The most common thing the two shows have for the purpose of Wiki reading, is that some articles have two or more versions for each series, making it necessary to use disambiguation pages. And when writing articles you need to pay attention to link to the correct ones. Like to [[Kobol (RDM)]] instead of just [[Kobol]]. That's all.
			:::::And for the third or fourth time. Please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). That will add your name and a time stamp. Otherwise there is no way to see who says what. Or you can just click on "sign your name" below the edit box. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:05, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

GuyIncognito: /* The Original Series and The New Series */

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	:::Actually, in the Original Series, Adama juggled three roles: spiritual leader, commander of ''Galactica'', and leader/president of the Fleet. In the new series, what happened is that RDM decided to essentially split the character in keeping with how we do things in the United States. Thus he created a civilian president (Laura Roslin), who ends up becoming a spiritual leader / prophet of a kind, and Adama became solely a military guy, thus creating the dramatic tension seen throughout the first and second seasons.		:::Actually, in the Original Series, Adama juggled three roles: spiritual leader, commander of ''Galactica'', and leader/president of the Fleet. In the new series, what happened is that RDM decided to essentially split the character in keeping with how we do things in the United States. Thus he created a civilian president (Laura Roslin), who ends up becoming a spiritual leader / prophet of a kind, and Adama became solely a military guy, thus creating the dramatic tension seen throughout the first and second seasons.
	:::Also, shipper fanfic is nothing new to BSG as a whole: there's always been Sheba/Apollo, Cassie/Starbuck, Athena/Starbuck, and Starbuck/Apollo stories well before the new series even came into being. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)		:::Also, shipper fanfic is nothing new to BSG as a whole: there's always been Sheba/Apollo, Cassie/Starbuck, Athena/Starbuck, and Starbuck/Apollo stories well before the new series even came into being. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

			::::....is there a site that just covers stuff about the current series?

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Battlestar Alliance */ reply

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Battlestar Alliance: reply

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	:::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		:::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	::::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		::::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		== The Original Series and The New Series ==
	::::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series. {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::::Please remember to use the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) after your posts to sign them on comment pages. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 17 July 2007 (CDT)		:The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
			::The wiki was always meant to chronicle everything BSG, including the old series. It just happened that most of the early contributors worked mostly on RDM stuff. So generally speaking, you're correct. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
			::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series. {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
			:::Please remember to use the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) after your posts to sign them on comment pages. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
			:::Actually, in the Original Series, Adama juggled three roles: spiritual leader, commander of ''Galactica'', and leader/president of the Fleet. In the new series, what happened is that RDM decided to essentially split the character in keeping with how we do things in the United States. Thus he created a civilian president (Laura Roslin), who ends up becoming a spiritual leader / prophet of a kind, and Adama became solely a military guy, thus creating the dramatic tension seen throughout the first and second seasons.
			:::Also, shipper fanfic is nothing new to BSG as a whole: there's always been Sheba/Apollo, Cassie/Starbuck, Athena/Starbuck, and Starbuck/Apollo stories well before the new series even came into being. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Serenity: /* Female Involvement / Relationships */ typos. Clarification

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Female Involvement / Relationships: typos. Clarification

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	:Well, we have attempted to "fix" the problem, and the issue is that there's not a clear consensus on ''how'' to fix it (certainly not from the people who pointed it out in the first place), or a clear idea of ''what the problem is'' (other than we don't have a large amount of female contributors). As for the relationship analysis, I have no problem with analyzing character interactions, since character development is key to BSG (including the old one, though it never got as deep as it really could've been). With that said, I'd like to see what you have in mind. Do keep in mind though the analysis needs to be based on what we've seen and heard, appropriately cited, etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 20:32, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		:Well, we have attempted to "fix" the problem, and the issue is that there's not a clear consensus on ''how'' to fix it (certainly not from the people who pointed it out in the first place), or a clear idea of ''what the problem is'' (other than we don't have a large amount of female contributors). As for the relationship analysis, I have no problem with analyzing character interactions, since character development is key to BSG (including the old one, though it never got as deep as it really could've been). With that said, I'd like to see what you have in mind. Do keep in mind though the analysis needs to be based on what we've seen and heard, appropriately cited, etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 20:32, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

	:Yeah, what Joe said. It turned out largely to be a misunderstanding what this place, and a Wiki in general, is about. Our goal it to document ''sourced'' and actual BSG content, be it on screen or behind the scenes. Now, relationships can be a part of that, but this isn't a forum. It isn't a place for speculation, on ~~how~~ should go together with whom for example. Nothing against that, but there are forums for that. The homosexuality question is another good part. People can poke fun at Gaeta (in fact even the gag reels do), but there is nothing on screen to support it. So what can be ~~write~~ here? According to reports there will be homosexuality in "[[Razor]]", maybe putting this topic at rest for a bit.		:Yeah, what Joe said. It turned out largely to be a misunderstanding what this place, and a Wiki in general, is about. Our goal it to document ''sourced'' and actual BSG content, be it on screen or behind the scenes. Now, relationships can be a part of that, but this isn't a forum. It isn't a place for speculation, on who should go together with whom for example. Nothing against that, but there are forums for that. The homosexuality question is another good part. People can poke fun at Gaeta (in fact even the gag reels do), but there is nothing on screen to support it. So what can be written here? According to reports there will be homosexuality in "[[Razor]]", maybe putting this topic at rest for a bit.
	:Of course it's valid to analyze relationships, and maybe more interesting than all the overly technical stuff, which I don't care that much about either, because I watch BSG for the characters too and not the ships or battles, which I really couldn't care less about. But again, it can't be speculation and needs to be sourced/cited. It could work as a subsection for an article maybe, detailing the way a character interacts with others. In this case romantically. That could also go some way of breaking out of the mode of just summarizing their actions in the episodes and moving towards some kind of personality profile.		:Of course it's valid to analyze relationships, and maybe more interesting than all the overly technical stuff, which I don't care that much about either, because I watch BSG for the characters too and not the ships or battles, which I really couldn't care less about. But again, it can't be speculation and needs to be sourced/cited. It can document what's seen on screen and analyze it; e.g. deriving motivations for certain actions. It could work as a subsection for an article maybe, detailing the way a character interacts with others. In this case romantically. That could also go some way of breaking out of the mode of just summarizing their actions in the episodes and moving towards some kind of personality profile.
	:If you have any specific ideas on how to address the issue, you're welcome. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 04:30, 17 July 2007 (CDT)		:If you have any specific ideas on how to address the issue, you're welcome. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 04:30, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Mercifull: /* Battlestar Alliance */

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Battlestar Alliance

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	::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series.		::::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series. {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
			:::::Please remember to use the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) after your posts to sign them on comment pages. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

GuyIncognito: /* Battlestar Alliance */

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Battlestar Alliance

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	::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
			::::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series.

Serenity: Subsections. Reply to relationship stuff

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Subsections. Reply to relationship stuff

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	:Dude, an Uncylopedia version of the wiki? Sweet! --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 18:33, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		:Dude, an Uncylopedia version of the wiki? Sweet! --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 18:33, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
			::Yep. See my note above. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 20:32, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

	== Female Involvement / Relationships ==		== Female Involvement / Relationships ==
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	== Battlestar Alliance ==		== Battlestar Alliance ==

	Yep. See my note above. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 20:32, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		well....I don't really know what the "original series" thing is going with; I mean I started watching for Helo. "Battlestar Alliance?" {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:well....I don't really know what the "original series" thing is going with; I mean I started watching for Helo. "Battlestar Alliance?" {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		:Battlestar Alliance[http://battlestaralliance.com/] is a fandom website...looks like it might be more of what you're looking for. BTW, please use the four tildes (~<!---->~~<!---->~)after your post to automatically sign it. --[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 21:19, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::Battlestar Alliance[http://battlestaralliance.com/] is a fandom website...looks like it might be more of what you're looking for. BTW, please use the four tildes (~<!---->~~<!---->~)after your post to automatically sign it. --[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 21:19, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		::(reading through BA website)....wait I'm kinda new to online and I'm now sure how this works....Joe is the leader of the fandom (through the websites and stuff set up over there)...confused...{{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::(reading through BA website)....wait I'm kinda new to online and I'm now sure how this works....Joe is the leader of the fandom (through the websites and stuff set up over there)...confused...{{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		::A few corrections: I'm not the leader of Battlestar Alliance, we have a leadership team, in addition to a leader which is selected from the leadership team every year. Right now, the leader of our Alliance is Shawn O'Donnell, who is the president of the [http://www.battlestarfanclub.com Battlestar Fan Club]. Also, not all that information (as well as the spit-and-polish) is up yet, because all my editing software is on my laptop, which needs its hard drive repaired. (I'm waiting for DiskWarrior so I can fix the HFS volume on my Mac.) I hope to have the website fully online by Friday or Saturday, depending on whether or not DW will fix my HDD.
	:::A few corrections: I'm not the leader of Battlestar Alliance, we have a leadership team, in addition to a leader which is selected from the leadership team every year. Right now, the leader of our Alliance is Shawn O'Donnell, who is the president of the [http://www.battlestarfanclub.com Battlestar Fan Club]. Also, not all that information (as well as the spit-and-polish) is up yet, because all my editing software is on my laptop, which needs its hard drive repaired. (I'm waiting for DiskWarrior so I can fix the HFS volume on my Mac.) I hope to have the website fully online by Friday or Saturday, depending on whether or not DW will fix my HDD.		::Right now, I'm using my desktop, which basically allows me to send emails and do basic wiki editing. My desktop doesn't have the software I use because I'm presently running Windows XP Media Center Edition and I have software for the Mac PowerBook G4... the desktop is something I mainly use to test out various operating systems and test drive programs I come across, when I have the time -- and the drive -- to do that sort of thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:38, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	:::Right now, I'm using my desktop, which basically allows me to send emails and do basic wiki editing. My desktop doesn't have the software I use because I'm presently running Windows XP Media Center Edition and I have software for the Mac PowerBook G4... the desktop is something I mainly use to test out various operating systems and test drive programs I come across, when I have the time -- and the drive -- to do that sort of thing. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:38, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		:::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

	== The Original Series and The New Series ==		== The Original Series and The New Series ==

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	:::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		:::Wait...there's an official Battlestar Fan Club for Ron Moore or something? ...why take turns on a yearly basis if the show is ending after next year? and what's happening Friday or Saturday I really don't follow sorry... {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	::::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		::::There's a fan club for ''all'' the ''Battlestar Galactica'' series, including both the re-imagined and original series. As for Friday or Saturday, that'll be the day when the Battlestar Alliance site will officially be finished and go live, barring any real life interruptions. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 22:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		== The Original Series and The New Series ==
	::::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series. {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::::Please remember to use the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) after your posts to sign them on comment pages. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 17 July 2007 (CDT)		:The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
			::The wiki was always meant to chronicle everything BSG, including the old series. It just happened that most of the early contributors worked mostly on RDM stuff. So generally speaking, you're correct. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
			::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series. {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
			:::Please remember to use the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) after your posts to sign them on comment pages. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
			:::Actually, in the Original Series, Adama juggled three roles: spiritual leader, commander of ''Galactica'', and leader/president of the Fleet. In the new series, what happened is that RDM decided to essentially split the character in keeping with how we do things in the United States. Thus he created a civilian president (Laura Roslin), who ends up becoming a spiritual leader / prophet of a kind, and Adama became solely a military guy, thus creating the dramatic tension seen throughout the first and second seasons.
			:::Also, shipper fanfic is nothing new to BSG as a whole: there's always been Sheba/Apollo, Cassie/Starbuck, Athena/Starbuck, and Starbuck/Apollo stories well before the new series even came into being. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 07:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

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	::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}		::....wait, so an original series website under this thing would have an equal vote to a current series' fansite? why? I mean they're about as similar as Ron Moore's show and like Buck Rodgers or something. Not that I mind the 70s show, it's just that I never saw it and all the BSG webrings I've seen didn't really seem to make mention of it. Why are you trying to incorporate them? {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
	:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)		:::The original series is treated the same as the RDM version on this Wiki. While it's generally acknowledged that this WIki was originially started (correct me if I'm wrong Joe) because of the RDM version, we all recognize that TOS paved the way and had its great moments. Therefore, any TOS fandom site links are treated the same as the RDM fandom site links. If you'll peruse the Wiki, you'll see that there's an effort to bring as much info into it about TOS to try to bring it up to par with the volume of RDM articles.--[[User:RUSnooky\|RUSnooky]] 23:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
	::::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series.		::::what i've seen of the original series is that it was this silly star wars clone; how did that "pave the way" for the shipper fanfic we enjoy today? I mean Roslin isn't even in that other series. {{unsigned\|GuyIncognito}}
			:::::Please remember to use the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) after your posts to sign them on comment pages. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 17 July 2007 (CDT)