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		<title>Mevenstar: New page: Concerning religion of the cylons and the colonies.    Keeping Ron Moore&#039;s twists and turns from the original series I would like to  suggest that the Lords of Kobol and the &quot;jealous&quot; god,...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Concerning religion of the cylons and the colonies.    Keeping Ron Moore&amp;#039;s twists and turns from the original series I would like to  suggest that the Lords of Kobol and the &amp;quot;jealous&amp;quot; god,...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Concerning religion of the cylons and the colonies. &lt;br /&gt;
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Keeping Ron Moore&amp;#039;s twists and turns from the original series I would like to &lt;br /&gt;
suggest that the Lords of Kobol and the &amp;quot;jealous&amp;quot; god, are for all intensive purposes the &lt;br /&gt;
Cylons.  They are modeled after and  therefore more directly linked to the deities say than &lt;br /&gt;
Adama is &amp;quot;being Zeus&amp;quot; among the humans. So much so that specific units have become avatars, perhaps posessed of a lord &lt;br /&gt;
or at the very least evolving an actual soul in likeness of a lord. &lt;br /&gt;
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12 cylons = 12 olympians &lt;br /&gt;
Final Five - Temple of Five &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
The mystery of the final five hints to them being  something other &lt;br /&gt;
that the existing models. Perhaps these five could not be replicated &lt;br /&gt;
like the others because of their conflict with the cylon god. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Clearly a more human &amp;quot;being&amp;quot; is developing in Deana in her search for &lt;br /&gt;
enlightenment, in Caprica in her search for Love and in Sharon in her self acceptance. &lt;br /&gt;
With Deanna the search for enlightenment became so overpweing &lt;br /&gt;
the entire line was boxed.  With Sharon it&amp;#039;s almost as if the  humanity &lt;br /&gt;
Boomer clung to has moved to Agathon.  Boomer is not the woman that &lt;br /&gt;
would not leave her human apartment after resurrecting, &lt;br /&gt;
but both have in their own fashion esentially accepted who they are. &lt;br /&gt;
Caprica appears in a constant state of conflict that many humans will relate to, &lt;br /&gt;
while her etherial counterpart is the self assured herald of her cylon maker. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
For all the pagan references in the original series we still had Count Iblis &lt;br /&gt;
and the ship of lights taking on very familliar christan concepts of angels &lt;br /&gt;
and satan. Nothing is ever quite that black and white in the reimagined series. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
While the reference has been fleeting, the notion of a god outside the &lt;br /&gt;
Lords of Kobol is clear, and he would be the cylons god.  Dodona Selloi seems to &lt;br /&gt;
refer to the cylon god as nothing more or less than a lord of kobol. &lt;br /&gt;
My thought is that somehow this jealous god has sort of ensnared the likeness &lt;br /&gt;
perhaps even conciousness of the lords in creating the cylon race, so closely that single copies become avatars of the &lt;br /&gt;
lords. The final five could be so possesed that they are not part of the cylon race, &lt;br /&gt;
refusing the mechanations of the cylon god.  Others an avatar is what we see &lt;br /&gt;
developing in Sharon, Deanna and Caprica. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
And even the cylon god, the Count Iblis whose voice was that of the imperious &lt;br /&gt;
leader in the original series has a model: Brother Cavel.  Cavel is horribly wicked, he is always urging his &lt;br /&gt;
fellow cylons to the most horrific of actions. He appears out of nowhwere all the time. And &lt;br /&gt;
yet, strangely, he seems to honor the importance of free will in his dealings with his brother &lt;br /&gt;
cylons, something you would expect of an Abrahamic god.  He&amp;#039;s not Satan then who would rather rule in hell than serve in &lt;br /&gt;
heaven, he is just far more satanic or evil than any characterization offered by a &lt;br /&gt;
member of a known pantheon of gods. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Yet another twist, If the Abrahmic god were competing with beings like himself &lt;br /&gt;
(greek gods), how satanic might he appear? An abrahamic god accepts free will: I can&amp;#039;t make you worship me. &lt;br /&gt;
But is flawed like miltons Satan, if you don&amp;#039;t worship me , your damned. &lt;br /&gt;
Satan&amp;#039;s flaw in paradise lost was saying better to rule in hell than serve in &lt;br /&gt;
heaven.  What he should have said was better to live free on earth not rule in &lt;br /&gt;
hell.  So Cavel is a marvelous blend of an Abrahamic God &amp;amp; Satan floating through &lt;br /&gt;
space in a base ship with 7 of 12 would be Olympians.  Caprica/ Aphrodite, Sharon &lt;br /&gt;
Athena and Deanna/Hestia(?).  Starbuck/Artemis is the next to come forward? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adama and Laura as Zeus and Hera? Two reason for two of the final five to stay &lt;br /&gt;
where they are. They have human avatars leading the fleet. Three male cylons just go with the &lt;br /&gt;
flow, well the male gods were always kind of boring anyway. At least if your a fan of &lt;br /&gt;
Wonder Woman. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
The twist from original series to re-imagined series are always surprising and &lt;br /&gt;
wonderful in many ways. In the world of Sci Fi televison, the original Galactica made huge &lt;br /&gt;
advances by considering the existence of higher beings.  Where would the Ancients of &lt;br /&gt;
Stargate or the Vorlons of Babylon be without Battlestar Galactica? Will we see actual communion with &lt;br /&gt;
higher beings  in the re-imagined series? I don&amp;#039;t expect to.  It would gnaw at the the gritty &lt;br /&gt;
realism of the show.  &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
The idea of this entire exodus from the colonies seeking earth, unifying to a &lt;br /&gt;
new Kobol, then breaking off back to earth and the colonies over and over seems entirely plausible.  Gods are at the very least real in a &lt;br /&gt;
metaphoirical sense and 12 cylon models living in peace with a vast race of humans on new a Kobol in the end &lt;br /&gt;
sounds far more believeable than actual gods and godesses co-existing with man. &lt;br /&gt;
ESTR&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mevenstar</name></author>
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